and also, did you see the labour mp talking about the bibby stockholm .7 she went over there stockholm? she went over there to see the migrants and they say it's basically like a prison . it's basically like a prison. >> the man i met said it felt like living in a prison. >> really a prison, really . >> really a prison, really. anyway, point is, she's now saying it needs to be closed

down. many people are agreeing with her. does it really? you'll have some thoughts on that, i am sure. now poor attendance sure. now poor school attendance is political hot topic right is a political hot topic right now . but listen to this. is a political hot topic right now. but listen to this. i think those parents that choose to take their children out of school for holidays, or for trips, or where it's not necessary should reflect seriously because that damages children's life chances. >> they one chance at >> they only get one chance at school. they only get one childhood. sorry >> i mean, is school really so critical that a week spent instead in butlins could ruin your childhood? if you ask me, i think we've lost our way a little bit now when it comes to our obsession with factory conveyor belt like academic education, we need to start at that point. rather than sticking plasters over to try and get kids back into school. as it stands, you agree or and stands, do you agree or not? and floods yet again, continuing in various parts of the country. i've got a simple question for you. why earth in 2023 are we you. why on earth in 2023 are we still still seemingly so unable to deal with floods ? i'll be

to deal with floods? i'll be getting stuck into all of that. i can tell you now, my panel disagree on pretty much all of it. but before we start, let's cross live to polly middlehurst for tonight's latest news headlines. >> michelle, thank you and good evening to you. we begin this bulletin with news from the united states where donald trump is trying to convince a panel of judges washington that he judges in washington that he shouldn't for trying shouldn't be punished for trying to overturn the us election to overturn the 2020 us election . his lawyers arguing allowing a former president to be charged would set a dangerous precedent , would set a dangerous precedent, paving the way, they say, for political , paving the way, they say, for political, highly paving the way, they say, for political , highly motivated political, highly motivated indictments . the process to indictments. the process to nominate the republic candidate for president begins on monday. meanwhile, with mr trump expected to easily win the state of iowa. but he'll still need to overcome a series of legal challenges if he's to retake the house. the white house, speaking a short time ago, mr trump

insisted the charges against him are baseless . are baseless. >> it's very it's a very sad thing that's happened with this whole situation . when they talk whole situation. when they talk about threat to democracy, that's your real threat to democracy. and i feel that as a president you have to have immunity. very simple . and if immunity. very simple. and if you don't, as an example , if you don't, as an example, if this case were lost on immunity and i did nothing wrong, absolutely nothing wrong, i'm working for the country. donald trump speaking about an hour ago now here in the uk, the leader of the liberal democrats, sir ed davey, has told gb news today he won't be handing back his knighthood over the post office scandal, despite not being in charge when it happened. >> it follows today's announcement that the former post office boss, paula vennells, will hand back her cbe with immediate effect. her announcement came after widespread calls for her to return the honour after the honzon return the honour after the horizon it scandal. more than

700 post office staff were convicted, jailed , bankrupted convicted, jailed, bankrupted and some even took their own lives after the faulty software meant they were wrongly accused of theft. and meanwhile fujitsu, that's the parent company of the faulty software, which caused the scandal in the first place, has been called to answer mps questions next week over its role in the scandal. downing street says the tech company will be held accountable legally or financially if it's found to have made mistakes . rishi sunak have made mistakes. rishi sunak faces a showdown with mps over his rwanda bill when it returns to the commons next week. penny mordaunt confirmed the legislation will go through its third reading in the house on the 16th and 17th of january, but the shadow commons leader, lucy powell, says the government's making it up as they go along . there could be they go along. there could be yet more doctors strikes on the way as nhs staff urged the health secretary to come forward with a credible pay offer to

stop future walkouts. the guardian newspaper is reporting the british medical association plans to hold a third vote for a new six month mandate for industrial action that follows a six day strike that ended this morning and it was the longest in nhs history. the government says it will negotiate with junior doctors if they enter talks with reasonable expectation , as two us airlines expectation, as two us airlines have found loose bolts on aircraft doors during plane inspections . that's after inspections. that's after a section of the fuselage fell from an alaska airlines boeing 737 max nine on friday. the plane had to make an emergency landing. no passengers were injured in the door was found in a residential garden yesterday. alaska airlines and united airlines are now both saying they found some loose hardware on several boeing max nines. us to france now, where gabriel attal has become the country's

youngest ever and first openly gay prime minister. the outgoing prime minister elisabeth borne, handed over to her successor in paris today following her resignation, the french president, emmanuel macron, says he wants to freshen things up in his second terms of office, ahead of the european parliament elections . more winter weather elections. more winter weather expected to cross the country today as the uk health security agency says there is now an amber cold health alert for parts of england. it follows storm henk, which left large areas flooded and thousands of homes damaged. more than 110 flood warnings remain in place right across the uk . that's the right across the uk. that's the news on gb news across the uk . news on gb news across the uk. on tv, in your car on digital radio and now on your smart speaken radio and now on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel. >> thanks very much for that, polly. i'm michelle dewberry

this is dewbs& co. we're with you till 7:00 tonight alongside me , i've got the parliamentary me, i've got the parliamentary sketch writer and from the daily mail, quentin letts and the political strategist and former labour councillor, kevin craig. good evening to both of you gentlemen . gentlemen. >> happy new year. >> happy new year. >> i was just about to say you beat me to it. it was just on the edge of the draw. tongue? yes. no messing around. good we've given him his caffeine hit before. on air. you'll before. he's got on air. you'll before. he's got on air. you'll be pleased to see. uh, you know what? it's not on my agenda for tonight, i can't let those tonight, but i can't let those headunes headlines pass without reflecting situation. on reflecting on that situation. on that can you that aeroplane. i mean, can you even it's inspired me, even imagine it's inspired me, kevin. don't sit in kevin. oh, yeah, i don't sit in my seat belt. but after watching that, after watching that door plug that, after watching that door plug whatever, called plug or whatever, it's called getting like that. i getting blown out like that. i can you now, right? anytime can tell you now, right? anytime i remain seated, my bell is going firmly be on. it was going to firmly be on. it was very michelle. very wise, michelle. >> avoid the boeing >> and avoid avoid the boeing max. whatever . uh, breed max. was it whatever. uh, breed of aircraft it is i want to say seven, three seven. >> is it 737? i think it is. yeah max. i mean, it's just

terrifying. >> i'm getting over that french prime minister. he looks like he's about 12. good looking boy. >> he's very young. >> he's very young. >> he's very fresh, isn't he? i love the chicken for you. >> that while i'm, uh. >> i love that while i'm, uh. >> i love that while i'm, uh. >> hang a little bit of >> hang on. a little bit of chicken for you. >> hang on. a little bit of chi> hang on. a little bit of chi> hang on. a little bit of chi> quentin's back to parliamentary business, albeit in france. yeah, i like it. anyway. what's on your mind tonight? you can get in touch with me all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. here's how you reach or indeed you you can reach me. or indeed you can tweet me at gb news. what are you laughing for now? what's so funny about the twitter handle? >> no, no, no, i was just catching up with with kevin. >> i think we've put something in his water tonight. >> think there's something >> i think there's something going through my water out of this. >> e there's this. >> there's something >> yeah, there's something going on the water. wokester gb on in the water. wokester gb news. what can i say? right uh, look, we've spoken about this topic now, haven't we? for a few days now. of course, it's got many speaking at length many of you speaking at length at home. the post office scandal is, course, refer to. is, of course, what i refer to. we've been haven't we? we've been asking, haven't we? are to see any form of

are we going to see any form of accountability? just last night we paula we were saying, why is paula vennells sitting and vennells not sitting there and going, know what, have it going, you know what, have it back, back. back, have my honours back. well, you'd be well, now of course you'd be familiar with the fact that she has back, um, the has she's handed back, um, the cbe that she was given. is this the first of the kind of the first step in proper accountability? quentin >> giving >> i don't think giving back a cbe amounts to very much. i'm sorry that. and a lot of sorry about that. and a lot of people demanding people who've been demanding this saying this is going be this saying this is going to be a step are now a tremendously big step are now going something going to have to find something else to say. and politicians always find something always want to find something else to me, the else to say. but to me, the whole system is so barmy whole honours system is so barmy and, uh, often corrupt and, uh, quite often corrupt that i attach little that that i, i attach little significance to that . to me, the significance to that. to me, the much bigger thing here is the whole the whole whole sort of the whole corporate the whole corporate world, the whole establishment world inertia. when it comes to what we might call the little people, you and me , when we if we got me, when we if we got complaints, we try and ring up and you get hit that telephone tree officialdom, the corporate world just doesn't want to know. and that's what really needs to change. a small thing. and that's what really needs to chanuh, a small thing. and that's what really needs to chan uh, giving a small thing. and that's what really needs to chanuh, giving backall thing. and that's what really needs to chanuh, giving back al thing. and that's what really needs to chanuh, giving back a cbe1g. and that's what really needs to chanuh, giving back a cbe .].

and that's what really needs to chanuh, giving back a cbe . to like uh, giving back a cbe. to me, just wee buns . me, that's just wee buns. >> but you see, that is a big thing for so many people. my inbox been on. honestly, my inbox has been on. honestly, my inbox has been on. honestly, my inbox has been on. honestly, my inbox has been on fire over a million people signed that petition because it was tangible, because there's actually medal bit of actually a medal on a bit of fibbon actually a medal on a bit of ribbon maybe that does ribbon that maybe that does signify think the much bigger >> but i think the much bigger thing to change thing there is to change corporate attitudes and to get companies and, and officialdom, civil servants , ministers to be civil servants, ministers to be more responsive and to be to actually lift up the telephone and say something might be wrong here. can we try and fix it? rather than just ignoring it as has happened? kevin. yeah i mean, i think the late he should be congratulated. >> it's right that she gave that on her back and i take quentin's point about the how much does it mean? i for her mean? but i think for her individually is individually that is a sacrifice. she'll live with that forever. and it shows that she is bothered about happened is bothered about what happened under watch . think under her watch. i think the point quentin makes is a very good one about accountability and and the system and little people and the system . and that's the thing that's so amazing about story. amazing about this story. and i note, in fact, that quentin was

writing this two years writing about this two years ago. i was yeah, ago. if i saw that, i was yeah, yeah, that um, how did this yeah, that um, how how did this happen? how in our country , happen? how in our country, free. can you have a system that just doesn't weed this out? and the interesting thing about the pressure that sir ed davey he who calls for many resignations himself as catalogue one of them. indeed. and this is the problem. if you're if you jump on an issue very quickly and are calling for people to resign when it then happens to you, and i think the for him is i think the issue for him is twofold. one, he had a twofold. number one, he had a very large, contract with a very large, um, contract with a law firm that was , uh, innately law firm that was, uh, innately involved in the work for the post office after this affair emerged . emerged. >> and second, was this the gig that he was getting about five grand a month? >> yeah, it was it was well, it was i think it was two, two, six, five a year. >> correct. yeah. and then the other one is which is quentin's point again, the tone in the correspondence people tried point again, the tone in the co get)ondence people tried point again, the tone in the co get a ndence people tried point again, the tone in the co get a meeting people tried point again, the tone in the co get a meeting with people tried point again, the tone in the co get a meeting with him le tried point again, the tone in the co get a meeting with him wasied to get a meeting with him was really quite aloof. >> yeah. when said sir alan >> yeah. when he said sir alan bates around

bates didn't, he turned around and basically, no and said, basically, there's no point meeting you because point in us meeting you because i the post office. i trust the post office. apparently. then he did go back, and he apparently and then he did. apparently go meet i'm interested meet alan bates. i'm interested in you said about, you in what you said about, you know, think basically know, you think basically this shows of paula shows the character of paula that and all the that she's remorse and all the rest it. you see, that rest of it. you see, that doesn't really wash with me because if you say sorry and you do the thing because do the right thing because you've caught because you've been caught and because there's pressure put you on there's pressure put upon you on a that to me a monumental scale, that to me doesn't tell me, oh, what doesn't tell me, oh, yeah, what a great character that person's got knew knew got because she knew she knew that had to prison. that people had gone to prison. she that this was an issue. she knew that this was an issue. and cbe the and she accepted the cbe in the first i have first place. i would have respected the character better if point of kind of if at that point of kind of offer of cbe , she'd have offer of the um cbe, she'd have said, then do you know what? i'm honoured. privileged, i'm honoured. i'm privileged, i'm touched. i think it's the touched. but i think it's the wrong thing do because whilst wrong thing to do because whilst i good things, this also i did good things, this also happened on watch. that would happened on my watch. that would have me. have showed character to me. well, heart, know. well, that's a heart, you know. >> a is a stern >> yours is a is a stern interpretation of her motivations actions, she motivations and actions, and she could on, uh, could probably have held on, uh, and to actually proactively pnor and to actually proactively prior actively give up this honour , i think will will bring

honour, i think will will bring some comfort to those affected. but i accept your reading. but you know , she didn't have to do you know, she didn't have to do that at this point. she's got nothing more lose here. but nothing more to lose here. but talking of paula vennells, uh, in 2015, quite a long time ago , in 2015, quite a long time ago, i went to a select committee where she was appearing. >> she was one of the people being asked and to her, she being asked and next to her, she had one of her, sidekicks. had one of her, uh, sidekicks. i think it was the public affairs director. um, and, uh, vennells herself was actually a quite a competent performer and quite persuasive live. but the woman that she was alongside and her fellow executive was a less congenial piece of work. so i'm not convinced that actually, paula vennells was the complete bogeywoman , uh, in this, uh, to bogeywoman, uh, in this, uh, to me , the involvement of big, big me, the involvement of big, big city lawyers, people, lawyers made a lot of money out of this £150 million so far, a lot of money. and as soon as things hit, inquiry stage, there's more. there's more smarties for lawyers. you know, this the lawyers. you know, this is the trouble. once something reaches that mass, very that sort of mass, it's very hard to get any speed of

decision out of it. >> you see, you will know i've been a businessman yourself, that when you've got staff and you've got employees, you set them targets and incentives and one of the things that i'm really intrigued by on this post office scandal is who was incentivised to do what. so this massive rollout of horizon, somebody, somewhere will have had that on their little , um, had that on their little, um, personal development performance thing or whatever they called it, wherever they are. and that would have had an objective . you would have had an objective. you need responsible for the need to be responsible for the rollout horizon. they would rollout of horizon. they would perhaps have been things like bonuses attached it. they bonuses attached to it. they would have been things would perhaps have been things like potential promotions, etc. attached it . those people, if attached to it. those people, if that's on your kind of tick, she at the end of the year you will do everything within your power to demonstrate that you as an individual delivered individual, have delivered a system work . and that makes system that work. and that makes me think . did people me think. did people deliberately cover up the fact that this system had had, uh, bugsis that this system had had, uh, bugs is putting it mildly , bugs is putting it mildly, because they wanted to

themselves protect their personal development. >> so i think what you've just said, michelle, is likely to be repeated in some form when the theatre and the circus, we can combine both of quentin's jobs when the select committee into this. i think it starts next week or the week after fujitsu are come in front of the committee. and i think, michelle, that's precisely you can expect now that kind of questioning and digging because what mps really love is when they're doing an inquiry to the top item of the day , and they're top item of the day, and they're going to ask those very questions who, who, how and who. so i'm looking forward to it. >> but there is an official inquiry actually happening into this. it's a big court number, uh, happening at the moment. and these are some of the things they're looking at. but it's going to take a while for those answers to come out. and by then the whole charabanc will have moved possibly. moved on. possibly. but the involvement been , involvement of fujitsu has been, uh, um, rather unremarked so far. yes. and there was plenty more, plenty more questions to

be answered there. >> there's a few things that strike me as odd when it comes to fujitsu. where are all the software engineers, as there'll be so many people worked be so many people that worked in that knew that that company that knew that something right? why has something wasn't right? why has there been hardly any of them speaking out? that strikes me as very peculiar indeed. >> and going back to this inquiry, about, inquiry, i'm telling you about, which has got a big um, which is all has got a big um, it's a big process happening at the moment. there is a tech bod who they have been trying to get answers and he has been answers out of, and he has been very elusive . very elusive. >> and one has to question why , >> and one has to question why, why, why indeed. >> but eventually he's going to have to answer questions and eventually will learn from eventually we will learn from the inquiry what they think of him. and that might be a tricky time for him. you never know. >> you see, i'm a fan. i'm quite harsh. you know, this. some would say i am quite harsh, actually, but i do believe in accountability, so i would like to see, uh, criminal prosecutions not going prosecutions actually, not going to of where people to lie in terms of where people deliberately when you've deliberately when you've deliberately , uh, lied, you've

deliberately, uh, lied, you've deliberately, uh, lied, you've deliberately misrepresented something and, you know, you know, that people's lives have been ruined because of it. i mean, sorry, you need to be in prison. >> i mean, i you know, it is a deadly serious, uh, issue. and um, you know, accountability , um, you know, accountability, you know, people should be held to account, no doubt about it. i mean, i don't think there's any room for be any equivocation on this. what happened to those people was, you know, morally, morally, ethically, legally wrong. were wrong. and the consequence were immense. not immense. so, you know, we're not done yet. >> yeah. and um, kevin said that actually thinks people actually he thinks that people that you that have been affected, you might comfort from the might take some comfort from the fact that paula has handed back her i happen to know her cv. well, i happen to know that of you that have been that some of you that have been affected, you do watch this programme got programme because you have got in with uh, over the in touch with me, uh, over the last couple of occasions where we've been it. so answer we've been doing it. so answer that question. do you feel like a that she's a sense of comfort that she's handed in? i suspect that handed a cbe in? i suspect that you might not, but do tell me what think. what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. i'll try and read those out before read some of those out before the of the programme. and the end of the programme. and i can you now, lots of you can tell you now, lots of you guys have got touch. this

guys have got in touch. this really struck a chord hasn't really has struck a chord hasn't it. this topic with so many it. um, this topic with so many people levels across people on so many levels across the thoughts the country, get your thoughts coming and i'll share some of coming in and i'll share some of your responses in couple of your responses in a couple of minutes. and what i want talk minutes. and what i want to talk to you the break about is to you after the break about is bibby stockholm never a week bibby stockholm it never a week goes that thing's not goes by when that thing's not out the it? anyway, now out the news is it? anyway, now there's a mp. she's gone there's a labour mp. she's gone over to some over there, spoken to some so—called on the so—called residents on the barge. feel like they're in barge. they feel like they're in prison. apparently prison. everybody apparently it's it it's inhumane. it's cruel and it needs to be shut down. does it? you tell me.

um, some have said, well, people are only interested now. it's been on an itv drama. that's not strictly true. there's been a number of years this has been going on. >> earlier on breakfast, more snow is expected across england today. the met office has issued an amber cold health alert for several regions that lasts right through until lunchtime on friday. fri day. >> friday. >> their first snowfall of the year. >> their first snowfall of the year . whilst it looks beautiful year. whilst it looks beautiful that has of course meant that some of the roads there are warnings on because they are dangerous to drive on, it's going first cabinet going to be the first cabinet meeting the year. meeting of the year. >> we've also seen some big faces heading down downing

street already, but cabinet meets for the first time in 2024 as the post office scandal mounts . mounts. >> but how will the pm lance the boil? >> i'm here at winter hill in bolton and i can confirm to you that the name does exactly what it says on the tin every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join . us. you can join. us. >> hello there. >> hello there. >> dewbs& co with me michelle dewberry till 7:00 tonight. parliamentary sketchwriter from the daily mail. quentin letts alongside me, as is the political strategist and former labour councillor, kevin crick. and your chair keeps a and your chair keeps making a very strange sound. what does it sound , michelle? sounds sound like, michelle? it sounds like shoes. it sounds. yeah it sounds like what my three year old calls a bottom burp . oh, old calls a bottom burp. oh, yeah. every time he moves and i'm trying desperately not to laugh. budget cuts. i know we need to get some wd 40 in the break. kevin. just been telling me we've got fans in felixstowe and fuerteventura .

and fuerteventura. >> felix, what's your show? >> felix, what's your show? >> i know so there you go. hello you guys. uh, that's very nice, isn't it? look, steve says ed davey should do the as davey should do the same as paula. hand is on her paula. vennells hand is on her back. and while we're at it, he says should be to says starmer should be held to account there's excuses. account too. there's no excuses. all could be absolutely all of this could be absolutely stopped in its tracks. i've got to say, i don't think any political party comes off this well at all. it's literally covered all of them, none of them glory, i tell you them in glory, i can tell you that, that is really coming that, um, that is really coming through, chris again. uh, he feels that ed davey should give his knighthood back. he says alan be knighted alan bates should be knighted for hard work. well, for all of his hard work. well, alan was actually offered. alan bates was actually offered. i it obe. he turned i think it was an obe. he turned it down because he he it down because he said he didn't accept it, didn't want to accept it, because wanted to until because he wanted to wait until every body had received justice before. an before. he then accepted an honoun before. he then accepted an honour. i like him. honour. you see, i like him. he's a man with integrity. uh, phil says, i don't think paula vennells at all. vennells is remorseful at all. she's because she was she's bothered because she was rumbled people as well. we rumbled many people as well. we don't have the answer to that, don't have the answer to that, do we? where has all the money gone? of this? money that gone? all of this? money that was back people? where

was paid back by people? where has up? and the million has it ended up? and the million dollar as well. who dollar question as well. who should pick up the for all should pick up the tab for all of it's you, me of this? because it's you, me and rest of us on the hook and the rest of us on the hook at the moment. it is indeed us tax payers. what about fujitsu? why so why are they getting off so lightly? your thoughts on lightly? keep your thoughts on it in. and as i asked it all coming in. and as i asked as well, if you have been affected by this, do you feel pleased that paula vennells affected by this, do you feel pleehanded that paula vennells affected by this, do you feel pleehanded back paula vennells affected by this, do you feel pleehanded back palhonour?lls affected by this, do you feel pleehanded back pal honour? does has handed back her honour? does it to you or not? it mean anything to you or not? but for now, let's talk, shall we? move on talk. we? let's move on and talk. bibby stockholm. all bibby stockholm. uh, you'll all be with what this is, be familiar with what this is, right? it is the barge, which is holding seekers. well holding asylum seekers. well a labour mp now, nadia labour mp now, uh, nadia whittome. she been over whittome. she has been over there. that there. she's complaining that there. she's complaining that the let her on the tories won't let her on board. wonders what on earth board. she wonders what on earth they're she's been they're hiding. so she's been interviewing, to the interviewing, talking to the so—called residents aboard. let's listen. let's have a little listen. >> in parliament after >> i'm back in parliament after meeting the meeting with residents of the bibby stockholm . their testimony bibby stockholm. their testimony was emotional and harrowing . the was emotional and harrowing. the men i met said it felt like living in a prison. >> i mean, give me a break. >> i mean, give me a break. >> she's the new kate adie. there she is. she's been into

the danger zone. she and, uh, actually, there are two things here. i think she does as a member of parliament. i think she's right that she should be allowed onto the vessel and have allowed onto the vessel and have a look, because it's proper that these things there be some form of scrutiny. >> do you? i do, i i do, but >> do you? i do, i do, i do, but 650 mp5 >> do you? i do, i do, i do, but 650 mps all decided they wanted to have a little gander. you'd let them all on board in the interest of it's not interest of scrutiny. it's not a tory but that's not tory statement, but that's not happening, it? happening, is it? >> but this is an mp saying, i want to go on there. i think she should be allowed on. um, and, and to let her on and it's silly not to let her on because she's an elected member of parliament. should of parliament. however should conditions better. well, you conditions be better. well, you know, be the know, should they be put in the dorchester or should they be given salmon silk given smoked salmon silk pyjamas, they be given pyjamas, or should they be given don't conditions don't give them conditions that are so great are all right, but not so great because you don't really want to become a magnet to attract more , become a magnet to attract more, uh, more asylum seekers. i probably tend to that latter view. >> so you think it's fine as it is basically. >> well, i haven't been on board, so i issue that, uh, caveat i haven't seen the

papers. i i am not my heart is not bleeding for those guys. kevin >> uh, what are you asking me? well, what i'm asking you. >> i'll cut. i'll cut suspect. i'll cut straight to the chase. right? i'll cut straight to chase. right? i'll cut straight to chase . the problem is, i feel so chase. the problem is, i feel so strongly about if i'm strongly about this that if i'm not me just on my own, not careful, me just on my own, i fill the whole rest of i could fill the whole rest of the program ranting about this. i'm like. i'm trying i'm trying to, like. i'm trying to myself in annoys to hold myself in what annoys you most. you the most. >> then answer that. >> then i'll answer that. >> then i'll answer that. >> i'll tell you what annoys me the most. right? there are people country that are people in this country that are absolutely right absolutely desperate right now. i'll a small i'll give you a tiny, small example. on my way example. last night on my way home here, i past home from here, i drove past a quy- home from here, i drove past a guy. i drove past a guy. right. he was on the floor in this kind of street. like a little gap on the street. was snowing. it the street. it was snowing. it was absolutely freezing cold. the uh, the guy just had a suit, uh, sleeping belle on a sleeping bag on. anyway, i got in touch with this charity streetlink. they're called they called great service. they do. you i respect of them. you know, i respect all of them. anyway when i see like anyway so when i see people like that on streets britain, that on the streets of britain, i feel heartbroken. then i feel heartbroken. they're then when i cross to a group of when i then cross to a group of people proactive, he

people who are proactive, he made leave a safe made a choice to leave a safe country, which is france. lots of just discard their of them just discard their documents. make it very documents. they make it very difficult claims be difficult for their claims to be processed timely manner. processed in a timely manner. they given a safe , they get given a safe, respectable, decent environment that actually tops a lot of the facilities that many of my viewers at home will have access to. they have prompt access to health care. they have leisure facilities, they have mental health support and they have lots of support care wrapped around them. when you then have the audacity to use this as a political football and suggest that those people should somehow now be likened to be in prison inmates, i think it's damn right offensive to every single person that struggles in this country. i also think it's quite reflective of the fact that laboun reflective of the fact that labour, in my view, i would be concerned and that the labour party would priority , missing party would be priority, missing the those people that the needs of those people that have proactive choice . have made that proactive choice. and let's it, they're and let's face it, they're probably little bit probably a little bit disappointed because the reason that come is they've that they've come is they've seen tiktok seen their mate on tiktok broadcasting their star broadcasting their four star hotel and they're a little bit

gutted that they didn't get the same okay so, uh , same treatment. okay so, uh, where to start? i told you i could keep going, but i work, so i utterly reject the idea . i utterly reject the idea. >> idea that the labour or the suggestion that the labour party would put the needs of people held in places like the, the bibby in front of homeless people in our own country, or people in our own country, or people with their own needs. what's happened here? i agree that the priorities of this issue by her as a member of parliament, and there was a small number of mps, six, i think, that signed a letter recently alongside with 100 organisations in this country asking for this facility to be shut down. i don't think , as shut down. i don't think, as a former labour parliamentary candidate , party supporter, it candidate, party supporter, it should be shut down. i do want it to do things properly and look after people. my observation of it is so far that it is doing that i don't have a

problem with people being searched there, so that we know that there's not going to be attacks and weapons. that's fine. and i have a lot of empathy for , for and take very empathy for, for and take very seriously people who are. and it's a it's the third most popular, most worrying issue in this country. people immigration and asylum. and that's absolutely right for people to be but as be worried about it. but as quentin said, this mp here has chosen, she's i think, the baby of the house, she's chosen 23. yeah. mps do have this this right in my opinion to prioritise issues that they they care about me personally where we are at this moment in time. i think there are ten other things that i think at least are more pressing, including homeless anas, including law and order, including the decline of trust including the decline of trust in our public institutions . but in our public institutions. but i would and we'll have a four hour special. michelle if you use the actions of the baby of the house to suggest that the labour party are going to put asylum seekers in immigration seekers above others, because i reject that.

>> you go. do you believe >> there you go. do you believe that fair that rejection? it's a fair rejection. wash with you rejection. does it wash with you guys just don't like guys at home? i just don't like this language. quentin. when i hear saying, it's cruel, hear people saying, it's cruel, it's inhumane. what is cruel and inhumane about providing people who've chosen to come with a safe, decent place to be. and when somebody very tragically dodi, um, ended their life via suicide the other day, i actually was pretty sickened the way that that was immediately politicised, because suicide is one of the biggest killers of men under the age of 50. men kill themselves each and every single day. we don't know this person's circumstances . it's person's circumstances. it's horrendous that he's chosen to end his life like that. you know, it's heartbreaking when anyone does it. but it was immediately jumped upon as these are awful conditions. this government you know, they're government is you know, they're essentially murder as some people think, pushing people would think, for pushing a that kind of extent. a guy to that kind of extent. it's politicising something. and it's politicising something. and i infuriates me the language around it. i agree, i agree with you, no idea with whom she was the baby of the house. >> i don't think she is any more, but she's, uh, a young,

young woman who obviously feels strongly if strongly about this. i bet if she went onto the streets of nottingham, constituency, nottingham, her constituency, i don't her concerns would don't suppose her concerns would be shared. you not? be widely shared. do you not? >> no, because there are an awful lot of people. >> no, because there are an awao,)t of people. >> no, because there are an awao,)t don't ople. >> no, because there are an awao,)t don't think she would. >> no, i don't think she would. i don't think she's speaking up for constituency. the mps i don't think she's speaking up for alwaysituency. the mps i don't think she's speaking up for always have :y. the mps i don't think she's speaking up for always have to the mps i don't think she's speaking up for always have to doe mps i don't think she's speaking up for always have to do that. don't always have to do that. they sometimes go off on one they can sometimes go off on one that feel about that they feel strongly about personally. feels personally. she obviously feels strongly i think strongly about that. i think she's i think she's daft about this. completely this. i think she's completely wrong. you know, it's wrong. but um, you know, it's her choice. >> i say one one thing to >> can i say one one thing to add to this, which is that the shame of this is the fact that, in my view, she is naively, uh, made comments there about made some comments there about the you said the some of the things you said about and comfort, etc. about safety and comfort, etc. the second half of what she said in video, she talks about in that video, she talks about the backlogs, talks about the failure and makes failure in processing and makes some the some very fair points about the fact numbers of people fact that the numbers of people coming has up so much coming over has gone up so much in recent years, and that's been lost. that's been entirely lost by the you know, the understandable in some ways, reactions that folks like you have. >> how do you promptly process

someone who's deliberately discarded documents ? discarded their documents? >> uh , well , discarded their documents? >> uh , well, uh, that there discarded their documents? >> uh , well , uh, that there have >> uh, well, uh, that there have to be i mean, that's just an administration process. >> well, so tell me then. >> well, so tell me then. >> so if you if you proactively and we know that people do this, they proactively discard their identification documents, which by itself would ring an alarm bell me. but anyway, if bell with me. but anyway, if they choose to do that, which we know you tell me, know they do, you tell me, because everyone criticises the time process these time taken to process these people, is too people, which i agree is too wrong if they've discarded their documents on documents deliberately, how on earth do even begin to earth do you even begin to process okay well, the process them? okay well, the answer, michelle, is that people have their have been discarding their documents saying, i haven't documents and saying, i haven't got it on me since time eternal. >> they ? yes, they >> and have they? yes, they have, of course. it's been happening now. have, of course. it's been hapl ening now. have, of course. it's been hapl don't now. have, of course. it's been hapl don't know. i'm not saying >> i don't know. i'm not saying they haven't. they haven't. i'm saying have they. it's kind of what that what i would conclude that that's been the case, to that's always been the case, to make harder to be assessed. >> but the reality is you know, the numbers of people, uh, coming is eight times coming here is eight times higher under conservative led governments. okay and

governments. fact. okay and people were always before stringing the authorities along because they wanted to try and, you know, achieve an objective. it start recently. okay. it didn't start recently. okay. it didn't start recently. okay. itake it didn't start recently. okay. i take your point. it's not easy. >> yeah. and i think to give the tories the credit, i mean, at the end of the day there is so many, you know, global kind of upsets and wars and conflicts at the moment. the amount of people wanting to change location. and by the way, i don't blame anyone who want to create a who wouldn't want to create a better themselves. better life for themselves. i don't individuals. don't blame these individuals. but you've the document but now you've got the document discarding, you've got these lawyers smart. now lawyers that are so smart. now you've social media you've got social media encouraging . it's tiktok. it's encouraging. it's tiktok. it's almost like a travel agent. yeah, but no it is. >> no, you're right, i'm not. i'm not even joking. >> he's like a travel agent. that's why i just flew straight to you with a question. because oncei to you with a question. because once i get started on this, this topic, that's also michelle. >> if make >> that is why if you make things not entirely uncomfortable, if you uncomfortable, but if you if you make know, a little make them, you know, a little bit spartan , then the message bit spartan, then the message might out via tiktok. uh, might go out via tiktok. uh, lads , maybe this isn't such

lads, maybe this isn't such a great place to come to afterwards. >> honestly, i just feel i know lots of my viewers will be hard working people, right? and they're tax money. £8 million a day is being spent on things like four star hotels, and i just think it is a sheer odd audacity to then sit there and say the, you know, the response to that is we're cruel and inhumane . inhumane. >> and i understand your passion , ian, but the if you're going to the people to get angry at are the government who have just failed to get a grip. you are really kind. i mean, this is not christmas is over. you're being so charitable towards the government they've government for this. they've they it's under they have overseen. it's under their it's out control. >> well , you know, you tell control. >> well, you know, you tell me control. >> well , you know, you tell me, >> well, you know, you tell me, what do you make to it all. they'll be strong opinions out there on both sides , i suspect. there on both sides, i suspect. get in touch anyway, the home office we work office have said we work continuously to ensure the needs and vulnerabilities of those residing the vessel are met. residing on the vessel are met. asylum seekers are not detained. they free and go as they are free to come and go as they please. the food provided on the meat on the barge, on the barge, meat on the barge,

meats eat well standard . meats nhs eat well standard. yeah, i bet it does . and i read yeah, i bet it does. and i read that. yeah. and i bet my bottom dollar the food served on that barge is a damn sight better than many people eat in their own homes. >> they even got my wife cooking for them. >> right. well, luckily >> that's right. well, luckily he me cooking for them he ain't got me cooking for them as well, frankly. anyway as well, quite frankly. anyway look, lots i want to look, there's lots i want to talk to i'm going to come talk to you. i'm going to come myself after i back on myself down after i come back on to to you about education. to talk to you about education. have quite wrong in have we got some quite wrong in this system? there'll of this system? there'll be lots of response as on that bibby response as well on that bibby stockholm i and stockholm badge, i am sure, and i'll be sharing some of

uh, policies that we're seeing in a variety of sectors , others, in a variety of sectors, others, i think they're deeply exclusionary. >> we . >> we. >> we. >> hello there. michelle dewberry with dewbs& co till 7:00 tonight. my inbox is on fire. it sounds painful, but it's not. it's quite delightful. there's lots of you guys engaging with the program tonight. i'll be sharing some of your thoughts in a few minutes. but for now, parliamentary sketchwriter quentin sketchwriter daily mail quentin letts as a

letts alongside me as a political strategist and the former labour councillor. >> you've stirred up. >> you've stirred them up. debns >> you've stirred them up. debris chris, you've got them. you put your stick in you put your put your stick in the hive. >> oh, we love it. you've got to have a bit of robust debate sometimes, you. and sometimes, aren't you. and respect like respectful respect artful i like respectful because clearly because of course clearly i think absolutely right on think i'm absolutely right on absolutely everything. but there are of people that are also lots of people that strongly they are strongly disagree and they are entitled too. strongly disagree and they are entimei too. strongly disagree and they are entime ask too. strongly disagree and they are entime ask you too. strongly disagree and they are entime ask you though, too. strongly disagree and they are entime ask you though, about let me ask you though, about schooling. 1 in 3 parents apparently acceptable apparently think it's acceptable for or their for their children or their children to miss school. all right, is a big issue. right, so this is a big issue. what do you do about getting kids back into the classroom? and of course, everyone's now setting stall . i'd do setting out their stall. i'd do this, i'd do that. i'd do the other. something caught my eye. it shadow education it was a shadow education secretary, bridget phillipson. she to what she had to she listened to what she had to say. and for me, this was such a crucial part of an interview that gave. that she gave. >> listen, think those parents >> listen, i think those parents that their that choose to take their children of for children out of school for holidays or for trips or where it's not necessary, should reflect seriously because that damages children's life chances. they only get one chance at school. only get one

school. they only get one childhood. i just found that so ridiculous. >> it's not me much it did. actually, i'm not even exaggerating. it stopped me in my tracks because i thought what a to have that my tracks because i thought what a genuinely to have that my tracks because i thought what a genuinely believe we that my tracks because i thought what a genuinely believe that1at my tracks because i thought what a genuinely believe that at you genuinely believe that a child should upbringing their whole childhood and life experience is singularly centred around a classroom . um, and if around a classroom. um, and if your mum takes you to butlin's for a week, heaven forbid, or camping or wherever you want to go on your holiday, that is somehow damaging your life, chances. kids chances. funny how those kids life being life chances are not being damaged when you've got all these training days in these teacher training days in these teacher training days in the of week, when the middle of the week, when you've got these strikes in the middle week. yeah, yeah, middle of the week. yeah, yeah, funny but anyway, funny that, but anyway, i reflect did reflect seriously, did you nofice i reflect seriously, did you notice i know should. notice that i know you should. >> it's bossy boots >> it's real bossy boots language that is is language that that is that is the headmistress telling you off. that, uh, you off. do you agree that, uh, you know, will lead life in know, you will lead your life in this way? i think i mean, i'm the son of a teacher , and, uh, the son of a teacher, and, uh, i would therefore agree that it's a good idea for children to go to school. but at the same time, it's also a good idea for families to be able to afford

breaks sometimes. and you get cheaper the cheaper breaks, uh, out of the school holidays. so that's always been the tension on that front. and i would tell bridget phillipson to reflect seriously on that aspect. wag your biro in her face and you tell. >> but for me, right, this points to like a critical because we've got so many plans coming up. apparently labour you're going to have text message system. message warning system. you've got this national database. you name but we've got this name it. but we've got this nofion name it. but we've got this notion this country, right, notion in this country, right, that kids learn same that all kids learn the same way. need to be taught way. they all need to be taught this stuff that's this ridiculous stuff that's getting by getting more ridiculous by the day. um, that you're day. anyway um, and that you're going everyone in going to measure everyone in the same with academic same way with these academic outputs. i actually just think the education system is broken. so i like to see from so what i would like to see from labour whoever, kevin, is labour or whoever, kevin, is more reform. more radical reform. >> think michel, more radical reform. >> think michel , there >> well, i think michel, there is quite a lot of radical policy being put forward by, um, bridget phillipson. like what text message, if you know. well, the message is the text message thing is actually wishes test that they're trialling at the moment where she comes from in this in this speech today is that this uh, speech today is that she comes from a good place,

which is basically trying to say that days at school every day is precious , and she wants to try precious, and she wants to try and give a lead as a if the labour party is given the privilege of government. she wants to say to people, i'm a secretary of state for education that believes that, you know, every day is precious. at school, we want your kids to make the most of it. you know it would. and it's also interesting, i think, what the labour party should look at. and i'll her this when i'll tell tell her this when i see her is stopping name dropping there. >> that. you see that, >> you see that. you see that, you know, because i think the companies be prevented companies should be prevented from hiking the costs of from hiking up the costs of holidays around when the holidays based around when the kids are off holiday. >> yes, because you can. so you must be worse because companies profiteer . yeah. they stick the profiteer. yeah. they stick the costs of holidays up because they particularly when they know particularly when state schools are going to be on holiday, basic supply and demand economics yourself are economics and you yourself are profiteering. the signed up profiteering. i'm the signed up capitalist, that's capitalist, but that's profiteering . that's not fair. profiteering. that's not fair. that's right . that's not right. >> you see, i just >> well, um, you see, i just struggle. >> so fair enough. rishi is the

one that talks text messages, but labour are talking national data bases. i mean, that is that really , like radical? because to really, like radical? because to me, you're all except everyone's accepting the school model me, you're all except everyone's acce we've the school model me, you're all except everyone's acce we've got the school model me, you're all except everyone's acce we've got now school model me, you're all except everyone's acce we've got now iniool model me, you're all except everyone's acce we've got now in the model me, you're all except everyone's acce we've got now in the wayel that we've got now in the way that we've got now in the way that we've got it is the right model. what we need is model. and what we need to do is make sure we sellotape kids into it punish. you're not in it and punish. if you're not in it, aren't we looking at is it, why aren't we looking at is this the right model ? this the right model? >> well, this is this database stuff is going create more stuff is going to create more bureaucracy. bureaucrat demands on already on schools which are already completely overstuffed with paperwork . and, um, i'm not paperwork. and, um, i'm not convinced that a database will work. i thought the text message thing seems a reasonable idea to at least tell the parents. look, do you know your your kid is playing truant, and then it's up to parents whether or not to the parents whether or not they anything it. i they do anything about it. i mean, is a very good idea. mean, it is a very good idea. kids and parents attend kids and parents to attend school. however you decide to school. however if you decide to miss a few it's not going miss a few days, it's not going to make the difference between your becoming your kid becoming stephen hawking in a useless dropout. >> why? why >> why? why >> right? so if we feel so

strongly that a child can't go on holiday because apparently it's their whole life is over and their life opportunities are limited, why aren't the policy then, that all your teacher training all of your daft training days, all of your daft inset or whatever it is inset days, or whatever it is that call all your different that you call all your different days, these days that you do dunng days, these days that you do during all during termtime, why are all they being ruled out? then you can them on your weekends can have them on your weekends and school holidays. you're giving have giving me quite a lot to have to respond to. >> michelle. >> michelle. >> oh, earning your money >> oh, you're earning your money tonight. he's earning money. tonight. he's earning his money. >> characterising insect tonight. he's earning his money. >> as characterising insect tonight. he's earning his money. >> as daft,|racterising insect tonight. he's earning his money. >> as daft, right? sing insect days as daft, right? many teachers they're not teachers would say they're not daft, of trying daft, and they're part of trying to the teachers give the to get the teachers to give the best teaching. they can best quality teaching. they can to kids. the fact is, to our kids. and the fact is, you the statistics on the you know, the statistics on the level of academic performance for persistently for kids who are persistently absent terrifying . only 5% absent are terrifying. only 5% of who are persistently of kids who are persistently absent or absent from school get five or more . you know, the more gcses. you know, the attainment levels at a—level and gcses are all down and i agree with you that schools should be interesting and inspiring, but i would gently disagree in that your characterisation of what's being put forward here, in my view, is not entirely fair

because what she is talking about is, is trying to encourage every free possible day in school to be had by children because the end result is better. >> i snored through half of my lessons. >> well, look at look how. i can't believe that. look, look how you turned out. but also in maths. >> if you miss the first bit of maths, then you were a goner because you could never catch up. well, i never did catch up, but you know, such as this is the way life. the way of life. >> well, well, why have we got such a double standard? because when or whoever it when the school or whoever it is, unions whoever it is, is, the unions or whoever it is, they to close the they want to close the classrooms, can in the classrooms, you can be in the classrooms, you can be in the classroom then the very classroom one day, then the very next they're going to close next day they're going to close it down because of a cold or covid or whatever. >> closed it. >> covid first they closed it. >> covid first they closed it. >> the first chance. >> the first chance. >> but that's what i mean. and it was repeatedly closed. you had situations. still had situations. you still have situations universities had situations. you still have situati they universities had situations. you still have situatithey still universities had situations. you still have situati they still do universities had situations. you still have situati they still do theirrsities where they still do their lectures. why michelle? lectures. you ask why michelle? >> love >> why? because politicians love telling and the tone telling us off. and the tone of phillipson there terribly phillipson there was terribly snooty. she's very patronising. she wagging her little she sees a wagging her little finger saying, you're going she sees a wagging her little fin d0' saying, you're going she sees a wagging her little fin do what? aying, you're going she sees a wagging her little fin do what? the 3, you're going she sees a wagging her little fin do what? the way u're going she sees a wagging her little fin do what? the way that going she sees a wagging her little

fin do what? the way that do 1g to do what? the way that do things the we say things that we the way we say one. and that's i mean, i think she's mistaken in that. i think you a bit more you should be a little bit more liberal this. live and let liberal about this. live and let live and occasion. we turn a blind eye. so the moral of jenkins is absent from jenkins minor is absent from biology. >> with due respect, >> with all due respect, you, you've called stop. >> i think it's called stop bloody telling me off or something like that. right. >> me about. >> bloody bossing me about. that's very book. that's it. right very good book. there we go. right. so i think we know where you're coming from on i, i think i've been told off >> i, i think i've been told off by politicians. i want hear by politicians. i want to hear a secretary state education who secretary of state education who values and, and really the values and, and really puts the education a pedestal. education system on a pedestal. and i'm excited about bridget phillipson doing that. >> to education >> i want to see an education secretary that realises that kids these kids are not just these computers are the same computers that are all the same people the same people that learn in the same way, measured by exact way, that measured by the exact same, more or less said she said. >> your point, michelle? in the spirit. mean, i might be the spirit. i mean, i might be the only person read this only person who's read this speech she said that today. >> anyway, moral of the story kids, you have to go to school. otherwise you'll end up like me. kids, you have to go to school. cdidn't,.e you'll end up like me. kids, you have to go to school. cdidn't, i you'll end up like me. kids, you have to go to school. cdidn't, i wasn't end up like me. kids, you have to go to school. cdidn't, i wasn't necessarily me. i didn't, i wasn't necessarily a huge school. you don't

huge fan of school. you don't wanna like kids that do wanna be like me. kids that do pay wanna be like me. kids that do pay in your classes pay attention in your classes anyway. i talk to anyway. look, i want to talk to you after the break about floods, and i want to bring you guys into the conversation. you've got

hi, there. michelle dewberry dewbs& co with you till 7:00 tonight. quentin letts and kevin craig remain alongside side me. david, uh, says about the bibby stockholm. i have stayed on one of these barges. many times whilst working in the oil and gas sector. he basically does not approve of the description that these things are essentially floating prisons. and i've got to say , many of you and i've got to say, many of you have that sense as well. on the on the score one, someone said, michelle, we need to bring back truancy assistance , but i don't truancy assistance, but i don't know what that was. what is what was truancy assistant? think was a truancy assistant? i think too i'm young. >> we have one. >> no, we didn't have one. >> no, we didn't have one. >> yeah, i don't know what that

is. i was probably too busy running away from anyway. running away from them anyway. look, have you look, uh, flooding. have you got, flooding in your area? got, uh, flooding in your area? apparently, there's more than 100 place 100 flood warnings in place across alone . uh, why across england alone. uh, why on earth, right in 2023? are we so bad, quentin at managing bad, quentin letts at managing floods . floods. >> uh, it's been this way for quite a long time. two thousand and we got flooded where and seven we got flooded where i live. each area, uh, it live. uh, each area, uh, it depends. local rainfall. uh, one of the problems the past has of the problems in the past has been, area . it was been, uh, in our area. it was the failure of local council and the failure of local council and the parish council to empty the ditches. and then there was the refusal of the environment agency to allow people to clear stream and to dredge , uh, in stream and to dredge, uh, in a reasonable way and to remove fallen trees . uh, the fallen trees. uh, the environment agency are a bunch of, uh, complete ninnies , in my of, uh, complete ninnies, in my view, who obsess about wildlife. uh, we had a case in herefordshire of a farmer who was sent to prison for a year for clearing a stretch of river, which, since he did that work, the area has not flooded. so he

plainly knew what he was doing. um, uh, there are there are, you know, various reasons for flooding, but it would help if, if, um, officialdom let it be done on a local basis . done on a local basis. >> and i think that's a very good point. and, um, you know, we're now at a point where 1 in 6 properties are at a risk of flooding. the environment agency's budget has gone down by 66% since 2010. and i am very encouraged by they don't need any more money. well, that's i disagree with you there, quentin, because actually their efficacy by many people is being questioned menace in in the questioned more menace in in the somerset levels, more more people are being affected by flooding. before i actually quite like some of keir starmer's proposal on this, he was victims last was visiting flood victims last week and talks about some new structures in place to get people working better together . people working better together. uh, to try and prepare for this. each winter. >> i don't suppose he's got really much of a view. i once went to an ed miliband flood event. >> and ed, you know how the highlight he had gumboots on and the water came over the front

and he was doing that sort of gumboot thing every, every step. >> the gumboot let >> he took, the gumboot let off a noise kevin seat the mind boggles. >> um, roger, we're talking about school truancy. he's got a radical idea. i'm not sure many people would approve of it. he says if you want to fix truancy, it's simple. michel, stay up. child benefit for those kids that don't go to school. he says attendance rocket attendance rates will rocket in attendance rates will rocket in a big intake a nanosecond. big intake of breath kevin craig. i don't breath from kevin craig. i don't think approves that, jerry think he approves of that, jerry says. michel, what all the says. michel, what about all the strain on the teachers that it puts on when these kids have time in midweek , then time off in the midweek, then they've play up they've got to play catch up with said, well, with the teachers said, well, a good i'm not a teacher good job. i'm not a teacher because to the child, because i'd say to the child, you've your day, you've you've missed your day, you've missed day. end of story. missed your day. end of story. life's moved and you've got life's moved on and you've got to in your spare time. it to learn in your spare time. it wouldn't be putting an extra workload job. workload on me. uh. good job. i'm not teacher. uh, many i'm not a teacher. uh, many people is saying keefe, says michel. problem everyone michel. the problem is, everyone is interfering with is a fearer interfering with other education. if other children's education. if they help, tell them to they need to help, tell them to catch agree. keefe catch up. kevin agree. keefe agrees me. there you agrees with me. there you go. i found somebody there again. this

whole about bibby whole situation about bibby stockholm is getting used talking. actually , uh, talking. i haven't actually, uh, found anyone that truly supports that sentiment we are cruel that sentiment that we are cruel and . main that really , and inhumane. main that really, um, isn't coming through thick and fast. i have to say. um, someone here says michelle, i need a lay down. i agree with kevin. he says that you're absolutely right about holiday companies profiteering. essentially uh, with school holidays . but ultimately, what holidays. but ultimately, what would you do about it then? because if you want to be a capitalist society, when you start tampering with free markets, that's a whole different. in fact, actually, there go. i found myself there you go. i found myself another to debate another another topic to debate another day tampered with free >> we've tampered with free markets hundreds of years. markets for hundreds of years. just that in. just chuck that in. >> you go. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> well, i'll leave you to ponder that one. uh over your evening, now, look, time evening, but for now, look, time flies, doesn't it? uh, when you are i much are having fun, i very much appreciate your appreciate all of your sentiments. and i want to reassure you that i read each and every single of the and every single one of the emails you send to me. emails that you send to me. there so i can't get there are so many i can't get through them all on the show,

but much appreciate your but i very much appreciate your contacts. if don't it contacts. if i don't read it out, i assure you, uh, it's not in vain. but now, quinton, in vain. but for now, quinton, thank much. he to thank you very much. he stood to attention. then did he see him? i i terrified anyway. i think i terrified him anyway. kevin, your company kevin, i appreciate your company as well. uh, guys, the as well. uh, guys, you know the drill, don't it's nigel drill, don't you? it's nigel farage next, so do not go farage up next, so do not go anywhere. i, however, will see you tomorrow night. >> outlook with >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsor as of weather on . solar sponsor as of weather on. gb news evening . gb news evening. >> welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. i'm alex deakin. another cold one tonight and tomorrow. quite a bit more cloud tomorrow over northeast england and eastern scotland. sunny is definitely in the sunny skies is definitely in the south. high pressure is still dominating our weather close to the centre of this high. we've seen some stubborn fog patches , seen some stubborn fog patches, the breeze coming around the high bringing in a bit more cloud over northeast england and eastern the eastern scotland during the night . maybe 1 or eastern scotland during the night. maybe 1 or 2 eastern scotland during the night . maybe 1 or 2 showers here night. maybe 1 or 2 showers here and there as well. they'll be pretty pretty well pretty light, pretty well scattered will be of scattered and they will be of

rain, a little bit of snow rain, maybe a little bit of snow on further south. it's on the hills further south. it's generally and clear and generally just dry and clear and cold temperatures down to minus one even towns and one minus two. even in towns and cities colder cities and feeling colder with that which that wind, which will be a feature of the weather tomorrow as it will be over northeast england and eastern scotland. a cloudy here as well, so cloudy day here as well, so feeling even colder without any sunshine. that breeze sunshine. with that breeze again, scotland should sunshine. with that breeze aga quite scotland should sunshine. with that breeze aga quite bit scotland should sunshine. with that breeze aga quite bit of otland should sunshine. with that breeze aga quite bit of sunshine,»uld see quite a bit of sunshine, some sunshine possible for northern plenty of northern ireland and plenty of sunshine the south. still sunshine across the south. still 1 or 2 scattered showers coming in and where it is cloudier with a stronger wind. even though temperatures are higher temperatures are a little higher tomorrow, probably feel tomorrow, it will probably feel colder . mostly 5 tomorrow, it will probably feel colder. mostly 5 or 6 celsius, so still below average for the time of year. another frosty one in the south on wednesday night and thursday morning, but again here and sunny here generally fine and sunny for again thursday is for most. again thursday is looking again . there quite a looking dry again. there quite a bit of cloud at times in northeast and eastern northeast england and eastern scotland. at sixes scotland. temperatures at sixes and sevens. so feeling cold once more, particularly in the east with brisk chilly wind looks with a brisk chilly wind looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers as sponsors of

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