>> good afternoon britain . it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 12 pm. on friday the 12th of january. coming up today we have an exclusive interview with the former home secretary, suella braverman . it's her first tv braverman. it's her first tv interview since being sacked by rishi sunak in october, and we'll bring it to you shortly after. the uk strikes back, two days after iran backed houthi rebels fired attack drones at the royal navy, the uk and the us launched an overnight operation. >> they've struck 16 sites in yemen and killed at least five houthi rebels . houthi rebels. >> rishi speaks we'll hear live from the prime minister as he makes a surprise visit to ukraine alongside top military officials. the uk is providing more cash for british made surveillance, long—range strike drones and sea drones. surveillance, long—range strike drones and sea drones . a new uk, drones and sea drones. a new uk, uk ukraine security agreement is to be signed this afternoon and

in more refreshing news, we'll be telling you which pub has been crowned british pub of the year now two times in a row we'll be in the west midlands. >> there's a clue to find out . >> there's a clue to find out. >> there's a clue to find out. >> it rather seems that rishi sunak's planned trip to ukraine has been a bit overshadowed by events overnight. pip webb well, he's been going to the site, the scene of one conflict whilst talking about another and having emergency meetings to see exactly what action is going to be taken against houthi rebels in the red sea. >> and you might be thinking , >> and you might be thinking, oh, it's way over there. it really isn't. the impacts on us economically could be enormous, and we could all feel it. so it is a story we are watching very

closely indeed today, along with rishi sunak's trip to ukraine and this exclusive interview, we'll be bringing you the very the details very shortly . our the details very shortly. our political editor, christopher hope, has been talking to the former home secretary suella braverman. that's right. >> while rishi sunak is away, the cats do play. and of course he's got some big discipline issues with his own party. what will those votes, those crucial debates next week on the rwanda legislation look like? might the former home secretary be about to make a pretty sizeable intervention? can often be that while a prime minister is overseas, while a prime minister is away, focussed on foreign policy , sometimes domestic policy, sometimes domestic issues bubble up and we'll be looking at that exclusive, that tv exclusive interview with the former home secretary. he's only gone for one day, but a lot is still happening on the domestic front. >> christopher hope will be giving us all those details very shortly after your headlines giving us all those details very

shor1sam ter your headlines giving us all those details very shor1sam .r your headlines with sam. >> pip. tom, thank you very much. good afternoon from the gb newsroom. our top story this houn newsroom. our top story this hour. the government has defended its decision to carry out the targeted strikes overnight on houthi rebels . out the targeted strikes overnight on houthi rebels. in a statement, it says the precision attacks were lawful and proportionate . that comes amid proportionate. that comes amid reports that five people were killed and six others wounded in those strikes by the us and the uk. in yemen, a spokesman for the militant group, though, says that they will continue to block the passage of ships and they're warning the us and the uk will not go without punishment or retaliate. asian minister for the armed forces here in the uk, james heappey , says the uk is james heappey, says the uk is acting in self—defence . acting in self—defence. >> the action last night was the necessary, proportionate , necessary, proportionate, limited response required to act in self—defence of the uk and us warships that are in the

southern red sea, seeking to protect commercial shipping as it transits on that vital route between europe and asia . uh, between europe and asia. uh, what we did last night was to degrade and disrupt the houthi capability to launch those attacks . it shouldn't be seen as attacks. it shouldn't be seen as attacks. it shouldn't be seen as a start of anything more . a start of anything more. >> well, more than 2000 ships have so far been forced to divert thousands of miles since those strikes, and at least four oil tankers have changed their course from the red sea. one of those ships, we understand, is carrying some 2 million barrels of oil . meanwhile, sir keir of oil. meanwhile, sir keir starmer has said he does back the government's decision to defend shipping lanes . defend shipping lanes. >> i do support labour does support this operation against the houthi rebels , as it's clear the houthi rebels, as it's clear that for some time now they've been carrying out attacks on shipping , been carrying out attacks on shipping, commercial shipping in the red sea, putting civilian lives at risk, as well as disrupting international trade

and traffic and shipping. and so we support this . action here in we support this. action here in the uk. >> a lawyer acting for the post office has apologised this morning for delays in the disclosure of the documents given to the inquiry into the honzon given to the inquiry into the horizon it scandal. chris jackson told the inquiry that the post office wants to help it reveal the truths and facts about the scandal, which saw hundreds of people wrongly convicted this week. the post office inquiry also heard from stephen bradshaw, who helped to lead the criminal investigation into some of those who were wrongly convicted. he admitted into some of those who were wronhe convicted. he admitted into some of those who were wronhe wasvicted. he admitted into some of those who were wronhe was noted. he admitted into some of those who were wronhe was not an he admitted into some of those who were wronhe was not an expert|itted into some of those who were wronhe was not an expert onzd into some of those who were wronhe was not an expert on the that he was not an expert on the honzon that he was not an expert on the horizon it system , but he was horizon it system, but he was aware there was an issue with it . rishi sunak is making a surprise visit to ukraine at this moment in time, as the government announced it will provide £2.5 billion in military aid to the country over the coming year. it comes as the ukrainian president presses allies in the west to provide more support in its fight against russian forces. more support in its fight against russian forces . that against russian forces. that comes as the war is approaching .

comes as the war is approaching. the two year mark rishi sunak says the uk will not falter in its support and will stand with ukraine in its darkest hours. protests have gathered outside the international court of justice in the hague in honour of the hostages taken in the 7th of the hostages taken in the 7th of october attacks. it comes as judges there hold the second day of hearings over the ongoing war in gaza, south africa is claiming that the israeli operation is a state led genocide aimed at wiping out the palestinian population . israel, palestinian population. israel, though, says the accusations brought by south africa are grossly distorted. legal adviser for the israeli foreign ministry tal becker , says the action in tal becker, says the action in gazais tal becker, says the action in gaza is an act of self—defence . gaza is an act of self—defence. >> the applicant has now sought to invoke this terme in the context of israel's conduct in a war. >> it did not start and did not want a war in which israel is defending itself against hamas. palestinian islamic jihad and

other terrorist organisations whose brutality knows no bounds . whose brutality knows no bounds. >> and some breaking news in just the last few moments coming to us here in the gb newsroom , a to us here in the gb newsroom, a mother and her former partner have been sentenced to life. that's for the murder of her 18 month old son in kent, alfie phillips suffered injuries to his body at the hands of his mother, sian hedges, and her ex—boyfriend jack benham , in ex—boyfriend jack benham, in 2020. jack benham must serve a minimum terms of 23 years, while the mother, sian hedges, must serve a minimum terme of 19 years and finally victims of the infected blood scandal say that they feel marginalised and that they feel marginalised and that they should get the same coverage as those that have been caught up in the post office scandal. the lawyers , scandal. the lawyers, representing 1500 victims say the government should react properly, objectively and fully to everyone who is wrongly wronged in such circumstance as

that comes as the commons leader, penny mordaunt, said it wouldn't take another itv drama for compensation to the victims of the infected blood scandal to be resolved . i mean that that's be resolved. i mean that that's the latest from the gb newsroom for now. i'll be back in the next half hour for more. we're on tv in your car, on digital radio and of course on your smart speaker two now though, more from pip and . more from pip and. tom >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:08 and as we were saying, we have that exclusive television interview with the former home secretary suella braverman . she secretary suella braverman. she sat down with our political edhon sat down with our political editor, christopher hope, who joins us now in the studio . uh, joins us now in the studio. uh, chris, this is , uh, a big deal, chris, this is, uh, a big deal, particularly in the run up to some pretty crucial days of debate next week . that's right. debate next week. that's right. >> you might remember before christmas, the pm, mr sunak, put

out his rwanda plan. there was a vote talk of rebellion to fire families, the erg, all these different groups of tory mps might try and sink it or change it, but it got through pretty much unopposed from the tory side at second reading around 2929. i think tory mps, uh, abstained and they withheld their support. well since then, over christmas , tory rebels have over christmas, tory rebels have been trying to strengthen this this bill. they are worried on the right of the party that it won't do enough to stop the boats. it's a kind of performative exercise which perform ative exercise which needs performative exercise which needs some help from the right to strengthen the pm, to strengthen it. now the pm, rishi sunak , told voters in rishi sunak, told voters in accrington stanley on monday he's welcome to and open to bright ideas. well robert jenrick, the former immigration minister, sir bill cash, the kind of guru of brexit for many tory mps. they put forward their ideas and so far around 50 tory mps have supported them. what does suella braverman do now? she's known to viewers as a former home secretary who

believes in this stuff and is worried about how this bill might or won't work. worried about how this bill might or won't work . well. might work or won't work. well. she sat down for her first television interview gb television interview with gb news few hours ago, and news was a few hours ago, and we're hearing that shortly, and i know you want you won't don't want to give us all the details yet. >> there's lot to go through >> there's a lot to go through with it. but sort of form with it. but what sort of form was she in? how was she? well very relaxed. >> when you meet suella braverman on private. she's braverman on a private. she's she's kind she's on basis. she's kind of just chatting it's friday just chatting away. it's friday morning got work to morning and she's got work to do. she's a local mp. she's waiting, of to fight the waiting, of course, to fight the seat later this year. did seat later this year. she did tell us, she some tell us, um, she gave some strong woe betide , she strong language. woe betide, she said. government which betrays said. a government which betrays its people. she said that people are and of broken are sick and tired of broken promises. they're tired of language saying, we're going to stop the boats. as the pm released sunak said a year ago and nothing's happened yet. and i think the concern for the tories and they'll reap a whirlwind at the election. the tory right feel is if this bill doesn't work, then voters will just give up with the party.

>> and she seems to have got an increasingly ally in increasingly strong ally in robert jenrick, doesn't she? he's to sort further he's moved to sort of further and towards her. and further towards her. >> unexpected, because, of course, robert jenrick won. course, robert jenrick has won. he out a declaring for he came out a declaring for bofis he came out a declaring for boris johnson goodness me, back in about 2 or 2 years ago, when johnson was running against jeremy hunt. so he's one of the modernising mps , with rishi modernising tory mps, with rishi sunak johnson. so we sunak supporting johnson. so we thought tied at the thought there were tied at the hip and indeed we had always thought that thought as journalist that jenrick was put into the home office as number two to braverman to keep an eye on her because she's, of course, a darling wing, when darling of the right wing, when in he he's been radicalised in fact he he's been radicalised himself by he's seen in the himself by what he's seen in the home and he's quit home office. and he's quit as immigration minister, he, immigration minister, didn't he, on eve vote last month? on eve of the vote last month? um, and what he has to say, we don't either. but i think don't know either. but i think there's real pride in there's a real pride in what suella says far, suella braverman says so far, she's done statement in the she's done a statement in the house of commons when she resigned a as a minister, resigned as a as a minister, she's written articles in newspapers. one radio interview with but never on tv with the bbc, but never on tv and with gb news. and never with gb news. >> it's interesting looking at what robert jenrick has been

writing since his resignation and what suella braverman has been writing since her sacking . been writing since her sacking. her resignation letter was the most excoriating attack on rishi sunak on his government. many people were looking at it as if it was a leadership pitch, geanng it was a leadership pitch, gearing up for a potential leadership election after the general election. did you get that sense from her? >> well, one viewers watched this interview playing out within the hour on gb news. >> they can form their own view on that. i say to her, on that. i did say to her, critics will say this is a leadership bid. you're trying to undermine the prime minister. she wouldn't go there, wouldn't talk about the they talk about the future. they never anyone wants to never do. anyone who wants to stand never stand for leadership will never say to until the say they want to until the moment comes. so wouldn't moment comes. so i wouldn't expect an answer on that. but it is. for her, she is is. i mean, she for her, she is one of original 28 spartans. one of the original 28 spartans. she opposed theresa may's brexit deal three deal through those three meaningful in early meaningful votes back in early 2019. i think people like 2019. and i think people like suella braverman see this vote next week . i should say the next week. i should say the votes on tuesday and wednesday

in the commons on on amending it . and then the key question for suella braverman is what will she with the third, give you she do with the third, give you a chance to clear your throat? >> chris, because we've got a clip, we've suella braverman we can people now, you can can show people now, you can listen it as well. she's listen to it as well. she's saying can't saying she can't support a government is failing the government that is failing the british people. government that is failing the britthisieople. government that is failing the britthisieo about delivering >> this is about delivering a bill and stopping the bill that works and stopping the boats. you know, i'm here because i believe vividly in things. i'm here because i believe passionately in delivering for the british people. they are fed up with the boats. they are fed up with broken promises. this is our last chance to get it right . and last chance to get it right. and woe betide a government that fails the british people again . fails the british people again. >> woe betide a government that fails the british people again . fails the british people again. she's sounding like an opposition politician . opposition politician. >> well, for her it's existential. this won't be. it's not helpless for the government because they've got to get these bills. this measures through. they want to try make it they want to try and make it work. and of course, there's pressure in newspapers today saying to the so—called five

families, tory mps, families, groups of tory mps, stop trying off the stop trying to go off after the perfect, uh, rwanda deal, get one might work and if one that might work and see if it that was, of it works. but that was, of course, argument through course, the argument through those on those meaningful votes on brexit. i mean, in fact, by the end of the second meaningful vote, virtually apart vote, virtually everyone apart from telegraph, vote, virtually everyone apart f|used telegraph, vote, virtually everyone apart f|used to telegraph, vote, virtually everyone apart f|used to work telegraph, vote, virtually everyone apart f|used to work inlegraph, vote, virtually everyone apart f|used to work in 28raph, vote, virtually everyone apart f|used to work in 28 spartan i used to work in 28 spartan tory mps, refused to accept it. at the third reading, the mv3 the on that and the third vote on that and suella braverman was one of them. she's someone believes them. she's someone who believes passionate in sovereignty, in why this stuff matters. no point in in taking the electorate for fools and passing a bill which won't work. in her view . of won't work. in her view. of course the government thinks it will work, but she thinks it won't work. she thinks she's got legal advice to say that, and the other? >> the opposite side of this, of course, what the rwandan think about deal. they've said course, what the rwandan think abotif deal. they've said course, what the rwandan think abotif goes|l. they've said course, what the rwandan think abotif goes muchy've said course, what the rwandan think abotif goes much further,1 course, what the rwandan think abotif goes much further, if that if it goes much further, if any amendment were to push this onto the wrong side of , uh, onto the wrong side of, uh, fitting in within those guidelines of international law , guidelines of international law, the rwandans might pull out of the rwandans might pull out of the deal . the deal. >> it might collapse it. i mean,

the language from the pm on that issue it will collapse the issue is it will collapse the dealifit issue is it will collapse the deal if it goes any further than it is at the moment. the other problem mr sunak, problem that the pm, mr sunak, has if they do go too far has got is if they do go too far to the right, too many of the bright ideas they accept to get it through week. the left it through next week. the left will happy. uh, sir will not be happy. uh, sir robert buckland, the former, uh, justice he's down justice secretary, he's put down his to try his own measures to try and weaken of this bill, to weaken parts of this bill, to ensure it does stay in line with the european court of the echr, the european court of human the echr, the european court of hurthere's also a suggestion >> there's also a suggestion that flights could be that the flights could be delayed after the delayed until after the election, echr election, because the echr could be out their their be dragging out their their their judgements on these so—called pyjama injunctions . so—called pyjama injunctions. yes. >> section 39 orders. those are the kind of so—called pyjama, um, injunctions because they're passed late at night when the planes are about to take off, and then suddenly the judges say they take off. the concern and then suddenly the judges say th

those matches from sir bill cash on tuesday about the issue of just ignoring parking, on tuesday about the issue of just ignoring parking , the issue just ignoring parking, the issue of human rights for migrants who arrive illegally and just deport them away. that's is them straight away. that's is less to go through than less likely to go through than the on wednesday, the measures on wednesday, which are robert jenrick the former immigration he's immigration minister. he's looking allowing the looking at, uh, allowing the government to treat, not allow to an individual challenges in certain cases to try and make sure they can't be frustrated by by lawyers. >> okay. christopher hope, thank by lawyers. >> isoay. christopher hope, thank by lawyers. >> iso much. stopher hope, thank by lawyers. >> iso much. uh, her hope, thank by lawyers. >> iso much. uh, her icane, thank by lawyers. >> iso much. uh, her ican listenk you so much. uh, you can listen to and watch interview to and watch the full interview that has done with the that chris has done with the former home secretary suella braverman. at 1:00. so that's in about 45 minutes time. >> but in the other huge news of the day , the uk and the us the day, the uk and the us launched joint strikes on those houthi rebels in yemen. here's what the prime minister had to say. just a few minutes ago in ukraine, seen a significant increase in the number of houthi attacks on commercial shipping in the red sea. >> that's putting innocent lives at risk . it's >> that's putting innocent lives at risk. it's disrupting >> that's putting innocent lives at risk . it's disrupting the at risk. it's disrupting the global economy . and it's also

global economy. and it's also destabilising the region . and in destabilising the region. and in that time, we've also seen the single biggest attack on a navy warship, a british navy warship that we've seen in decades. now it's clear that that type of behaviour can't carry on. that's why we joined with allies in issuing very public condemnation of this behaviour, and it's why i made the decision with allies to take what i believe to be necessary, proportionate and targeted action against military targets to degrade and disrupt houthi capability. we won't hesitate to protect lives and ensure the safety of commercial shipping. what happens if it doesn't work? >> if it doesn't deter the houthis? >> well, we've carried out a series of strikes together with allies, which will, we believe, degrade and disrupt the capability. the types of things that we've targeted, our launch sites for missiles and for drones. initial indications are that those strikes have been successful . well, we'll continue successful. well, we'll continue to monitor the situation, but it's clear that this type of behaviour can't be met without a

response. we need to send a strong signal that this breach of international law is wrong . of international law is wrong. people can't act like this with impunity . and that's why, impunity. and that's why, together with allies, we've decided action. any decided to take this action. any fears about escalation? >> look , our aim is very clear. >> it's to de—escalate tensions and to restore stability to the region. and that's why allies over the past few weeks have issued several statements of condemnation of what's happening, calling on the houthis to desist. indeed, just this week, we've seen a un security council resolution on condemning what's happening and saying that states have a right to self—defence and we have acted in self—defence . hence, acted in self—defence. hence, it's incumbent now on the houthis to stop out houthis to stop carrying out these putting people's these attacks, putting people's lives risk and disrupting the lives at risk and disrupting the global also global economy, which is also have a impact on on have a damaging impact on on people's shopping and their day to day shopping when they go about their lives. that's not right. we've seen the disruption that that's brought over the past year two the past year or two with the situation in russia and ukraine. we want to that happen we don't want to see that happen again. and that's it's right we don't want to see that happen agaiwe've that's it's right

we don't want to see that happen agai we've taken. it's right we don't want to see that happen agai we've taken action. s right that we've taken action. >> a final thought. some >> well, a final thought. some mps said parliament should have been consulted first. well i chaired a cobra meeting yesterday, and yesterday, convened cabinet and relevant politicians relevant opposition politicians were informed. >> every case is different. what we have done here is take limited and necessary action in response to a specific threat in self—defence and if you look at similar situations in 2015 and 2018, a statement was made to parliament after the action and that's what i will be doing on monday. i'll be making a full statement in parliament and taking questions. >> then we're hearing ukraine. you've announced britain's new financial commitment financial military commitment for next year. why has it for the next year. why has it taken so long to this taken so long to make this announcement ? and is it only announcement? and why is it only for one year? well we are one of ukraine's most significant supporters , particularly when it supporters, particularly when it comes to providing military aid. >> i'm pleased to be here today to announce an increase in the aid that we're providing . the aid that we're providing. the aid that we're providing. the aid that we're providing. the aid that we've got in place already runs through to the early part this year, so early part of this year, so we're acting advance that

we're acting in advance of that expiring new commitment expiring with a new commitment of £2.5 billion, more than we've provided years that provided in previous years that represent the seriousness of the situation and our situation here. and our determination with determination to stand with ukraine. and that's why i'm here on my first foreign visit of this year, the first foreign leader to visit in year. leader to visit uk in this year. we send a strong signal we want to send a strong signal of to ukrainian of support to the ukrainian people, also a strong signal people, but also a strong signal of support that vladimir putin needs recognise. we're not needs to recognise. we're not going i'm with going anywhere. i'm here with one clear message the united kingdom with ukraine. kingdom stands with ukraine. >> thank you very much, prime minister. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> speaking a few moments ago, our security editor, mark white, >> speaking a few moments ago, 0l here. jrity editor, mark white, >> speaking a few moments ago, 0lhere. what'sitor, mark white, >> speaking a few moments ago, 0l here. what's striking k white, >> speaking a few moments ago, 0lhere. what's striking aboute, is here. what's striking about that mark is prime minister in the middle of a war zone in ukraine, talking this ukraine, talking about this conflict that's escalating in another region? yeah >> i mean, the problem is these trips to ukraine, active war trips to ukraine, an active war zone, are planned well in advance . so, you know, he he was advance. so, you know, he he was heading out there just immediately after that crisis cabinet yesterday. but interesting to hear him talk about another £2.5 billion

commitment from , from the uk to commitment from, from the uk to help ukraine prosecute this war against russia. that will include £200 million for drones , include £200 million for drones, uh, drones, which we know, of course, are being used so effectively by these houthi rebels out , out effectively by these houthi rebels out, out in the red sea. that's £200 million, by the way, that uk companies , uh, will that uk companies, uh, will benefit from to an extent because they'll build the drones to supply, uh, to ukraine. but there is a legitimate question to be asked. uh, all this extra money for, for ukraine at a time when in the defence department here, the ministry of defence is struggling with, with budgetary, um , issues, we have seen that um, issues, we have seen that a number of navy warships have been laid up. there are plans to scrap two type tweet. uh type 23 frigates and also the two uh

common shadow carriers. the commando landing ships, hms bulwark and albion are likely to be put into what they call extend readiness. effectively. they're going to be mothballed simply because they don't have the numbers dealing with our recruitment crisis in the navies. to be able to man these vessels, uh, and it's a funding issue as well. so it is very difficult given the challenges and what they are trying to meet in terms of the commitments to take action in the red sea, as we're seeing at the moment and all the while, particularly in the red sea, we're seeing this asymmetric warfare where hms diamond has been there , um, diamond has been there, um, sending very expensive sea to air missiles to take out very cheap hooty drones , guns that cheap hooty drones, guns that sort of draining of resources is probably what this group, the houthi rebels, are aiming for.

yes. there's no doubt that these are expensive missiles to see. um, the sea ceptor missiles that we send off from the type 45 destroyers and the type 23 uh, frigates, about £1 million or so each. frigates, about £1 million or so each . but it's not from our each. but it's not from our point of view, clearly, about you know, a very expensive missile versus a very cheap drone. it's really about the very significant damage that that cheap drone could do if it was to connect with commercial shipping or indeed naval shipping or indeed naval shipping out there. so that's why why you're seeing these missiles being launched by the uk and the us and others . i uk and the us and others. i think there is an interesting issue, though, about the way in which we're able to help and contribute to this because as the four typhoons that we suppued the four typhoons that we supplied from the raf as part of our commitment to last night's strikes flew out of raf akrotiri in cyprus .

strikes flew out of raf akrotiri in cyprus. for strikes flew out of raf akrotiri in cyprus . for 1700 strikes flew out of raf akrotiri in cyprus. for 1700 mile trip down to yemen . that's just to down to yemen. that's just to get in country then , of course, get in country then, of course, it's got to find its target and then return back again in all then return back again in all the time supported by voyager tanker aircraft, because there's no way they could make that journey . otherwise. the much journey. otherwise. the much more sensible way forward. there you would think, would be to have a carrier in the red sea like the americans have. and that's how they, uh, effective , that's how they, uh, effective, prosecuted a significant part of the operation last night with, uh, combat aircraft from that carrier, hms queen elizabeth. >> our aircraft carrier is currently , uh, in east asia . currently, uh, in east asia. >> uh, well, no, it's back in portsmouth now. um, it's the high readiness carrier. it could go, uh , there relatively short go, uh, there relatively short notice. and in fact, we understand that the chief of the defence staff had suggested to number 10 that this might be,

um, an actually the sensible thing to do is to deploy , uh, thing to do is to deploy, uh, the queen elizabeth to down the red sea. there is an issue with that, though, in doing that which is that would have to be protected. that carrier, they would have to be an air group or a group around the a battle group around the aircraft carrier , frigates and aircraft carrier, frigates and destroyers. well we have one destroyers. well we have one destroyer and shortly two frigates that will be in that region, but we'd need another destroyer, probably from somewhere . somewhere. >> worked most closely, particularly with the french when it comes to sharing aircraft carriers in the past. with regard to group protection. but . were notably but the french. were notably absent from the strikes last night, despite having vessels in the area . it was the british and the area. it was the british and the area. it was the british and the americans and the dutch and others who got involved, rather than the french. yes an interesting one. >> this, i mean, the french are taking part in this. you us led, um , effort to try to protect um, effort to try to protect shipping in the red sea. but the french are are under their own

national command. they're not taking orders or acting as part of the coalition to take part in the strikes or anything like that. and we're told that the shipping that they are primarily focussed on protecting is french related, uh, shipping that's passing through that route . so passing through that route. so clearly, um, there is some concern about the commitment of some nations to help out here in terms of the wider coalition effort to deal with the houthi rebels. and then as we watch the situation, uh , the concern next situation, uh, the concern next is what the houthi rebels do. they say that the strikes last night , they say that the strikes last night, which, they say that the strikes last night , which, according to them, night, which, according to them, killed five, uh, people and, uh, injured and others six will not go unanswered . and, uh, and go unanswered. and, uh, and that's why we're getting reports that's why we're getting reports that some oil tankers and other shipping that would have been

transiting through that red sea area are diverting to go to other routes. >> usually it's a big diversion, isn't it, through cape of good hope. >> yeah. through through right round africa , which adds if you round africa, which adds if you come into the uk another ten days to the trip. so i think some real anxiety uh, in the hours and days ahead to see just what the response is of these rebels will be, you know, okay, they may be, in some eyes, a ragtag militia, but this is a group that it, you know, effectively fought out a bombing campaign by the saudis, launched in 2015, where they thought they could bomb them into submission and restore the government of yemen. well that didn't work out for saudi arabia. they are , uh, for saudi arabia. they are, uh, yes, they have some fairly basic weaponry, but they also have some reasonably sophisticated weaponry in terms of anti—ship and ballistic missiles supplied . and ballistic missiles supplied. by and ballistic missiles supplied. by by iran. and of course ,

by by iran. and of course, hundreds if not thousands of drones, uh, that they've got relatively cheap, but they're pretty effective. well, let's pick up all this. >> thank you. mark. mark whitehouse editor let's pick up on this with former head of on all this with former head of counter—terrorism the mod, on all this with former head of countegeneralism the mod, on all this with former head of countegeneral chip the mod, on all this with former head of countegeneral chip chapmani, on all this with former head of countegeneral chip chapman . good major general chip chapman. good afternoon you, chip . houthi afternoon to you, chip. houthi rebels, as mark say , says they rebels, as mark say, says they are promising a response. what do . you think that response is do. you think that response is going to look like? and yeah, just how well—armed are they? what firepower do they have ? what firepower do they have? >> well, i'd expect more of the same. so the intent of the operation last night was to deter the houthis from, uh, future action. that is why it was done in the question that ruth rishi sunak didn't answer is if that does not happen, what is if that does not happen, what is the sustainable campaign that would take place to ensure that there was further destruction of their capabilities? now, in terms of their capabilities, they've been supported , uh, by they've been supported, uh, by they've been supported, uh, by the iranian air. iranian

revolutionary guard corps, quds force to the order of £100 million a year. they've got a sophisticated arsenal, which we first saw in terms of their what we call the a2+ capability. that's the anti—access area denial capability we used in 2016 when they used the chinese. suppued 2016 when they used the chinese. supplied side, uh, cruise missile. the charlie 208, uh , missile. the charlie 208, uh, from, uh, iranian sources. so they're called the noor range of 120km, which nearly sank, uh, a ship called the hsv two swift, which was a uae, uh, landing ship. so the key thing is that they can have sort of sea control by their ballistic missiles. and their cruise missiles. and their cruise missiles . and that's the missiles. and that's the problem, which needs to be overcome. you can do that either in two ways. you can destroy all their capability or have enough diplomatic pressure placed upon them through other sources , them through other sources, principally the iranians, because the iranians will probably fight to the last houthi but won't fight to the

first iranian and they're just call them a ragtag militia is probably not the right way to look at it. they inflicted significant casualties upon , uh, significant casualties upon, uh, that saudi arabia, from 2015 onwards, the uae were getting out of the campaign because it was in a quagmire. and that's the problem that you always have . uh, saudi arabia couldn't look at the outcomes or get the outcomes it required. and it's not sure, of course, because there are so many variables in these operations that we will also have the outcomes that we wish for the future. why >> why were the saudis unable to put this problem back in its box? >> the saudi arabian army is one of the best funded in the world, and yet they weren't able to, uh, as to, to, to contain a threat that the last time i looked only had one jet. well well, you mentioned earlier on about asymmetry, and this is one of the examples of this. >> one of the things, again about saudi arabians is that

they'd rather other people fight for them. they they thought in two 2015 that they'd be able to get, for example, the pakistani army on side and the egyptian army on side and the egyptian army on side and the egyptian army on side. but there was really sort of overstretch and overreach from mohammed bin salman at the time, uh, who really reversed a very conservative foreign policy of really reversed a very con saudi ve foreign policy of really reversed a very con saudi arabians] policy of really reversed a very con saudi arabians prior:y of really reversed a very con saudi arabians prior to of really reversed a very con saudi arabians prior to that the saudi arabians prior to that . the problem is, though, in a sense , um, the yemen has sense that, um, the yemen has always been an incomplete country , and it's really become country, and it's really become more fragile as an incomplete country with the loss of oil revenue . uh, really from 2002, revenue. uh, really from 2002, when the wells were, um, drying up and a decision that actually made in, um , first gulf, uh, made in, um, first gulf, uh, first second gulf, first gulf war to support, um , saddam war to support, um, saddam hussein to its patronage system has been dismantled. and that's what really did for president saleh. and then you had these fractures occurring between what was the former north yemen and south yemen , of which there is south yemen, of which there is a secessionist movement . and secessionist movement. and that's really what powered the

civil war, which led to the intervention of the saudis in 2015. the thing to say about our intervention, though, is it is absolutely legitimate and necessary. we've had 27 occasions since the 19th of november when you've had, uh, british, french, uh, american warships catching these missiles . the sometimes in bazball analogy, when you've got a pitch and the operation last night was certainly a pitch to take out some of those capabilities. >> former head of counterterrorism at the mod, major general chip chapman , major general chip chapman, thank you so much for your analysis this afternoon on. >> well, coming up, we'll be asking what the financial impact could be here at home as the houthis pledge to continue attacking all of those ships in the red sea. that and much more to come after your headlines with sam . pip. with sam. pip. >> tom, thank you very much . and >> tom, thank you very much. and good afternoon from the gb newsroom , i'm sam francis. the

newsroom, i'm sam francis. the headunes newsroom, i'm sam francis. the headlines at . just after 12:30. headlines at. just after 12:30. well we start with the latest on our top story today that the prime minister says that the uk needs to send a strong signal that houthi rebel attacks in the red sea are wrong and that they cannot be carried out without, with impunity . he cannot be carried out without, with impunity. he in a joint strike, the uk and us fired on houthi militant facilities in yemen overnight and the government says that is government says that attack is lawful and proportionate. it comes amid reports that five people were killed and six others wounded in those strikes by the uk and the us. a spokesman, though, for the militant group, says they will continue to block the passage of ships in the red sea and they're warning and the us will warning the uk and the us will not go without punishment or retaliation . even speaking a few retaliation. even speaking a few moments ago, rishi sunak says the be tolerated . the attacks won't be tolerated. >> our aim is very clear it's to de—escalate tensions and to restore stability to the region, and that's why allies over the past few weeks have issued several statements of

condemnation of what's happening, calling on the houthis to desist. indeed, just this week, we've seen a un security council resolution motion condemning what's happening and saying that states have a right to self—defence. we have a right to self—defence. we have acted self—defence . so have acted in self—defence. so it's incumbent now on the houthis to stop carrying out these attacks, putting people's lives at risk . lives at risk. >> well, meanwhile, rishi sunak has also said that britain will stand with ukraine for as long as it takes and that all support to ukraine cannot and will not falter . the prime to ukraine cannot and will not falter. the prime minister is in kyiv for a surprise visit after announcing a further £2.5 billion in military aid to be given to ukraine over the coming yeah given to ukraine over the coming year. it comes as the ukrainian president is pressing allies in the west to provide more support in the fight against russian forces . that's as the war forces. that's as the war approaches. the two year mark. and here in the uk, a lawyer acting for the post office has apologised for delays in the disclosure of documents to the inquiry into the horizon it scandal. chris jackson told the

inquiry that the post office wants to help it reveal the truths and facts about the scandal, which saw hundreds of people wrongly convicted this week. the post office inquiry has also heard from stephen bradshaw , who helped lead the bradshaw, who helped lead the criminal investigation into some of those who were wrongly convicted, and he admitted that he an expert on the he was not an expert on the horizon. it system , but that he horizon. it system, but that he was aware there an issue was aware there was an issue with it . that's the latest from with it. that's the latest from the gb newsroom for more, find stories on our website, gb news.com .

>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:39 and as rishi sunak justifies the uk's military action against the houthis in yemen last night as limited, necessary and proportionate action in self defence, reaction from opposition parties has been very mixed . very mixed. >> labour leader sir keir starmer has said he and his party are fully supportive of the government's decision to launch strikes against the houthis . but the liberal houthis. but the liberal democrats and the snp have both said parliament should be recalled, so the house of commons can properly scrutinise the military action. >> well, let's discuss this further now with the member of the foreign affairs committee, henry smith. henry thank you for

making the time for us. i suppose there is a pressing point that began to be built up about parliament, uh, approving action that is , of course, action that is, of course, delivered by the executive through the royal prerogative as military interventions are under our system . but that precedent our system. but that precedent has rather been broken in recent time. perhaps this parliament voting on action like this was very much a 2010s era issue . very much a 2010s era issue. >> well, the constitution is very clear, as you say , the very clear, as you say, the executive has the right under royal prerogative to take military action without reference to parliament. >> and there's an important reason why that is the case, because you have urgent situations that arise that may need action to be taken in a very timely manner. need action to be taken in a very timely manner . and if you very timely manner. and if you were having to wait for parliament to convene to have

many hours or even days of debate on an issue and then approve that action, not only do of course do you alert, um, your enemies as to what you are going to do, but you also you delay the importance of getting the job done. so, um , it's a bit job done. so, um, it's a bit ridiculous. i think , for the ridiculous. i think, for the liberal democrats and snp to say that parliament should be recalled . um, parliament will be recalled. um, parliament will be sitting on monday and i have no doubt that there will be a statement either from the prime minister or the secretary of state for defence as to why britain has joined action with the united states, but also others. as you've mentioned previously in your reports, australia , the netherlands , australia, the netherlands, bahrain and denmark, amongst other coalition un partners to ensure that international free trade and waterways remain open. >> how far, henry, though, is the uk prepared to go in

protecting commercial shipping here because , as it can be easy here because, as it can be easy to enter these conflicts, but very difficult to get out of . very difficult to get out of. >> i do think it's important that as an island trading nation, as global britain, that we ensure that the international order of freedom of passage on the open ocean and free trade is maintained at all costs , um, maintained at all costs, um, there's an element and a danger that we can become all armchair experts on this, but we've just come out of the christmas season . i dare say that a significant proportion of the christmas presents that we exchanged at just a few weeks ago, um, would have come through the suez canal and the red sea. we are globally connected. but more importantly than that, it is an issue of food prices and energy prices . food prices and energy prices. and if global trade can't freely flow, uh, then then um, cost of living and energy prices would

skyrocket. absolutely more than there have been. as a result of things like covid and the war in ukraine. and therefore all this is very real and has a very real and tangible domestic impact. if and tangible domestic impact. if a global free trade is not able to flow freely and it's right that that terrorist groups who are despised actually through most of the middle east, most arab countries also despise the houthis for what they have been doing in in recent years. it's right that we take action to combat that. yeah, but how much action? >> how far is the uk prepared to go with this? the houthis say they are going to respond to the overnight airstrikes . overnight airstrikes. >> well, of course they will say that. um, but as the prime minister rightly pointed out, this was limited and targeted airstrikes to take out out some of the capability that the houthis have been supplied by iran. and iran is always has its

fingerprints over all of these conflicts. they want to see destabilisation, not only in the middle east, but across the whole world. and it's not right , whole world. and it's not right, as your pictures are now showing that we allow rogue , uh, forces that we allow rogue, uh, forces to disrupt that international trade and create a security risk. and that's why it's important that proportionate action was taken . now, of action was taken. now, of course, we always need to be very careful as to what action further comes . um, because we further comes. um, because we don't want to get dragged into some broader middle east conflict . but i would just conflict. but i would just finally say that most middle east countries are supportive of the action that the british, the americans and others say the australians and many european countries have engaged in in the last 24 hours, because there security is also threatened. >> it's worth noting that two days ago the un passed a resolution to the effect of enabung resolution to the effect of enabling countries to defend

their own vessels to attack houthis who have attacked them . houthis who have attacked them. isuppose houthis who have attacked them. i suppose there's an argument that perhaps there's been too much restraint , that the houthis much restraint, that the houthis started attacking commercial shipping vessels last, last yeah shipping vessels last, last year. this has been going on for more than a month to some extent. why did it take this long? a month after those first vessels started being attacked? now 26 commercial vessels have been attacked, but also our own royal naval vessels have been attacked. the largest attack on our royal navy in two decades occurred. this this week. why did it take so many days after that to respond ? that to respond? >> well, i think you're sort of damned if you do and you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. have we taken action? um. last year, when the houthis , um, backed by when the houthis, um, backed by iran, henry , sorry to interrupt. iran, henry, sorry to interrupt. >> i just want to bring viewers some live pictures that we're getting, which you can also comment on as well. this is

yemen at the moment. uh, protesters who we understand that they are out in force protesting against the overnight airstrikes by the us and the uk . airstrikes by the us and the uk. henry >> well, i'm not surprised to see that these sorts of mass protests are often arranged by these regimes to sort of show a, um, a message of outrage that these regimes have at finally been checked in terms of the criminal actions that they've been involved with. so i think these pictures are nothing new. we see similar on the streets of tehran and other parts of the world. in reaction . i don't world. in reaction. i don't think that that should mean that we should not be acting to protect british interests, global interests as free trade and acting against, uh,

terrorist regimes that are seeking to destabilise not only the region, but the world. >> houthi rebels say that they are doing this in support. short of gaza . well they may well say of gaza. well they may well say that , and of gaza. well they may well say that, and they may be an element of truth to that. >> but there has been a houthi inspired conflict , worked in inspired conflict, worked in yemen for many, many years . um, yemen for many, many years. um, this didn't start on october the 7th last year. um, there's been a wider conflict between saudi arabia and the uae with the houthi regime in yemen for many, many years . and so, you know, many years. and so, you know, just to sort of conveniently label it as some sort of gaza protest, i think is, um , uh, how protest, i think is, um, uh, how should i be diplomatic? i think thatis should i be diplomatic? i think that is the regime, um, being very, um, uh uh, really , really

very, um, uh uh, really, really sort of, uh, taking on a cause and claiming it's something, um, that it actually isn't. we should just describe for those listening on radio, the scenes that we're seeing thousands upon thousands of people , all flags, thousands of people, all flags, including the flag of yemen, palestinian colours , but also palestinian colours, but also the distinctive yellow flag of hezbollah, which includes, uh, military equipment and arm thrusting up with a machine gun of some sort on that flag. >> also, uh, the houthis have a slogan which translated to english, goes like this god is the greatest death to america, death to israel cursed the jews . death to israel cursed the jews. victory to islam . henry, these victory to islam. henry, these are the kind of people we're deaung are the kind of people we're dealing with. >> yeah, you're absolutely right . and, uh, i suppose they're not exactly hiding what they're purpose is. uh, again , when you purpose is. uh, again, when you mention hezbollah and some of the pan—arab coloured colours ,

the pan—arab coloured colours, flags that you see there, um, uh, all of those groups, hamas, hezbollah , the houthis, um, hezbollah, the houthis, um, other groups are backed by iran thatis other groups are backed by iran that is seeking to, as i say, destabilise , uh, the middle destabilise, uh, the middle east. um, they they are a regime that one of your earlier reports correctly outlined are supporting russia . uh, with supporting russia. uh, with drones to fight against the democratic resistance in ukraine in, um, these are really unpleasant people. um who would . unpleasant people. um who would. see uh, the end to you and i in an absolute heartbeat. and our way of life . and if we don't way of life. and if we don't actually stand up and challenge that , right, actually stand up and challenge that, right, then actually stand up and challenge that , right, then they will actually stand up and challenge that, right, then they will just be emboldened . be emboldened. >> okay? really appreciate your time this afternoon. member of the foreign affairs committee, henry smith mp. thank you . henry smith mp. thank you. >> well, in slightly lighter

news, a pub has been crowned best in the country for a second time in a row and it is in staffordshire. >> the tamworth tap has been crowned by the campaign for real ale and it is just the second pub ever to win the prize. two years in a row, and joining us now from the pub , maybe with now from the pub, maybe with dnnkin now from the pub, maybe with drink in hand, maybe not, is gb news, west midlands reporter jack carson. maybe it is in your left hand and we can't see jack but you are at the pub. um, there's some great extras at this pub. i was reading at it and is this what's got it? the award. it's how special events there, including back watching . there, including back watching. >> so yeah, this, this pub not only of course, puts on so much for the community, but of course, you know for pub of the year you've got to have a lot of a lot about you as a pub. >> you've got to be able to achieve, of course, a lot of things in a single year. one of the things they judge on is atmosphere. it's things like decon atmosphere. it's things like decor, can just see from

decor, and you can just see from how here is today. how busy this pub here is today. but of the decoration here but some of the decoration here is fantastic. we've got hops lining the ceiling, we've got all of old fashioned and, all kinds of old fashioned and, um, bits of um, you know, bits of memorabilia and you memorabilia as well. and as you mentioned, community mentioned, the community events is things that really is one of the things that really puts this place above the else above everybody it sits in above everybody else. it sits in in the garden the shadow in the beer garden in the shadow of so of tamworth castle. so as she mentioned at times in the summer, they do that bat watching, also really watching, but they also really promote events, watching, but they also really pron different events, watching, but they also really pron different things events, watching, but they also really prondifferent things like events, watching, but they also really prondifferent things like localnts, um, different things like local artists comedy as artists and comedy clubs as well. but speak to the well. but let's speak to the owner, shall we? george greenaway, who course, greenaway, um, who of course, owner um, opened in owner of this pub, um, opened in 2017. i mean, this second 2017. i mean, this is second year now, how does that feel? >> incredible. fantastic. um, so, yeah, i've, i've known for a few days . and people, people few days. and people, people must have suspected because i've just not dropped the smile. really >> and, you know, tell me what it's been like, you know, to run a pub over the past year because we about the that we know about the things that lots of pubs across the country have been struggling with, whether that's high energy bills, change to bills, whether it's change to alcohol duty as well, what is the months like? the past 12 months been like?

yeah it's been it's been difficult everybody difficult for everybody obviously everybody getting back into swing things into the swing of things post—covid confidence post—covid and that confidence in amongst crowds again. >> um, the duties didn't >> um, the beer duties didn't necessarily help everybody because were because of the takeouts were penalised. although beer duty dropped. but we're getting a lot weaker , um, abv beers now, so weaker, um, abv beers now, so the stronger beers tend to be quite expensive for breweries, but also probably imports of stronger beers is going to be on the rise . energy costs, although the rise. energy costs, although ours are stabilised now, we did have to sort of ease off on the amount of brewing that we were doing. um, just because of, of, of high unit costs. >> and what kind of things do you brew here, you know, is it ale? what kind of things do you do? >> real ales. um, so again, all affiliated with camra, hence. the award um and uh, yeah. no, just just good honest local beers and what, you know, what does this pub mean to you? >> you know, to see how many people are in this pub already before it officially opens to the public a little bit later on this afternoon to see how packed

it already. this community it is already. this community come out and support you come out and support you. you know. how does feel? know. how does that feel? >> support >> yeah, again, the support has been incredible opened been incredible since we opened the doors originally six years ago. we've really embraced ago. we've really been embraced by community. we've by the local community. we've supported them. likewise as well. events, um, well. we've put on events, um, we've supported local , we've supported supported local, um, uh, community groups, charity groups. um, but yeah, to see that support in there and there are people that have been with us on that the entire journey, you know, over the past five, six years. >> and tell us about some of the decor as well, because we've joked , you know, how how have joked, you know, how how have you collated all of this? where's all this come from? >> yeah, it's just on my travels. um, so i'm a beer enthusiast and a pub enthusiast, so i think it was inevitable, really. i was going to open up a pub and really celebrate everything that i've seen over the past 20, 30 years. uh, going into, the good british into, uh, the good old british boozer uh, think it just, boozer and, uh, i think it just, it just really resonates that type decor , um, and, and type of decor, um, and, and reflects what a pub what a what a true real ale pub is.

>> all right, george, thank you. the tamworth tap . the tamworth tap. >> oh, that was brilliant. we got there in the end. but jack , got there in the end. but jack, get yourself back in that pub , get yourself back in that pub, get yourself back in that pub, get a pint, tell us what it's like and we'll talk to you again later. >> clearly all the beer and the big steel drums are interfering with the signal in that room, but my goodness, what an amazing pub looks like. pub that looks like. >> yeah, know, but i'm >> yeah, they also know, but i'm going to go. do sip and going to go. they do sip and paint as well. and paint sessions as well. and they've their they've got they've got their they've got all sorts films and things all sorts of films and things very at the start. very accurate at the start. >> the end the paintings all >> by the end the paintings all over place. over the place. >> at the top of the houn >> it looks like things are heating up boxed boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news . sponsors of weather on gb news. alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news for most, another rather drab but dry day still fairly chilly out there, although temperatures have been creeping up a little bit, it is going to get colder again this weekend.

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>> good afternoon britain. it's 1:00 on friday, the 12th of january. coming up on the show today , suella speaks . today, suella speaks. >> we have an exclusive interview with the former home secretary coming up very shortly. it's her first television interview since being sacked by rishi sunak back in october. >> the uk strikes back two days after iran backed houthi rebels fired attack drones at the royal navy, the uk and the us launched an overnight operation in. they've struck 16 sites in yemen, killing . at least five yemen, killing. at least five houthi rebels. the prime minister says the strikes have sent a strong signal. >> rishi in ukraine on prime minister rishi sunak makes a surprise visit to ukraine alongside top military officials . the uk is providing cash for british made surveillance

long—range strike and sea drones as a new uk ukraine security agreement is to be signed this afternoon. >> well, there's plenty happening this afternoon. coming up very shortly . there will be up very shortly. there will be that exclusive interview with suella braverman, the first television interview that she's given since being sacked as home secretary by the prime minister, our political editor , our political editor, christopher hope, has been talking to her, and this is just days ahead of the two day debate on the rwanda bill, which we know is really splitting the tory party >> it's a committee of the whole house of commons, which means, uh, amending votes will be thrown left, right and centre at this piece of legislation. so we'll be seeing amendments from the of the conservative the right of the conservative party, from the left of the conservative party from opposition as well. opposition parties, as well. it's going to be an incredibly

important moment in the passage of this bill. and of course, the former home secretary is going to be one of the biggest voices, uh, in that debate. so we'll hear what she has to say in just a few minutes time. how does she plan to vote? >> maybe she divulged that to christopher hope . first of all, christopher hope. first of all, here's your headlines with sam . here's your headlines with sam. >> pip. tom, thank you very much. good afternoon. from the gb news room. the headlines at one. well our top story today the thousands of yemenis have now taken to the streets of the capital sana'a. they're protesting in solidarity with gaza. that's after the uk overnight, along with the us, launched strikes on houthi targets . these here for those targets. these here for those watching on tv, are live pictures of that protest taking place in the capital, sanaa, and the joint strikes last night from the uk and the us were in

response to attacks on ships in the red sea. the government here in the uk, though, says that the attack overnight is lawful and proportionate . meanwhile, proportionate. meanwhile, a spokesman for the militant group says that they will continue to block the passage of ships in the region. they're also warning the region. they're also warning the uk and the us will not go without punishment or retaliation. the prime minister says that the uk needs to send a strong signal to the houthi rebels that attacks in the red sea are wrong, and cannot be carried out with impunity. >> aim is very clear. it's to de—escalate tensions and to restore stability to the region, and that's why the allies over the past few weeks have issued several statements of condemnation of what's happening, calling on the houthis to desist. indeed, just this week, we've seen a un security council resolution on condemning what's happening and saying that states have a right to self—defence. we have acted in self—defence . hence it's in self—defence. hence it's incumbent now on the houthis to stop out these attacks, stop carrying out these attacks, putting lives at risk .

putting people's lives at risk. >> meanwhile, more than 2000 ships have so far been forced to divert thousands of miles. and we understand at least four oil tankers have also changed their course from the red sea since those strikes overnight. one of the ships is carrying around 2 million barrels of oil . it comes million barrels of oil. it comes as sir keir starmer says he does back the government's decision to defend the shipping lanes . to defend the shipping lanes. >> i do support labour does support this , this operation support this, this operation against the houthi rebels. it's clear that for some time now they've been carrying out attacks on shipping, commercial shipping in the red sea, putting civilian lives at risk, as well as disrupting international trade and traffic and shipping . trade and traffic and shipping. and so we support this action as well . well. >> rishi sunak earlier has said that he is sending a strong signal of uk support for ukraine, after announcing a £25 billion military aid package for the coming year. it's britain's

largest annual commitment since russia's invasion in rishi sunak says britain will stand with ukraine for as long as it takes, and that our support to all ukrainians in the uk cannot and will not falter. the prime minister is in kyiv as part of a surprise visit. it comes as the ukrainian president is pressing allies in the west to provide more support in its fight against russian forces. more support in its fight against russian forces . that's against russian forces. that's as the war approaches. the two year mark. well, elsewhere, protesters have gathered outside the international court of justice in honour of hostages that were taken on the 7th of october attacks. it comes as judges in the hague hold the second day of hearings over the ongoing war in gaza, south africa is claiming that the israeli operation is a state led genocide aimed at wiping out the palestinian population . israel, palestinian population. israel, though, says the accusations brought by south africa are grossly distorted and legal advisor for the israeli foreign ministry, tal becker, says action in gaza is an act of

self—defence . self—defence. >> the applicant has now sought to invoke this terme in the context of israel's conduct in a war. >> it did not start and did not want a war in which israel is defending itself against hamas. palestinian, islamic jihad and other terrorist organisations whose brutality knows no bounds . whose brutality knows no bounds. >> well, back here in the uk, a lawyer acting for the post office has apologised for delays in the disclosure of documents to the inquiry into the horizon it scandal. chris jackson told the inquiry earlier that the post office wants to help it reveal the truth and facts about the scandal, which saw hundreds of people wrongly convicted former post office minister and the current liberal democrats leader, sir ed davey , says post leader, sir ed davey, says post office lied to everyone, allegations which the firm denies. it all told me the same thing that the horizon system was working , that there weren't

was working, that there weren't that many subpostmasters involved and it was clearly a conspiracy of lies . conspiracy of lies. >> and what's become clear throughout this, through itv's programme and from others , is programme and from others, is that the post office were lying to the subpostmasters, lying to the victims , lying to courts and the victims, lying to courts and judges and lying to ministers of all parties over two decades. that's the latest from the gb newsroom . newsroom. >> for more, we're on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. just say play gb news now though it's back to pip and . tom. >> welcome back. former home secretary suella braverman was dismissed by the prime minister last year after she criticised the police for being soft on pro—palestinian protesters. she's since been pressuring the government for tougher measures to stop the boats. >> well, our political editor, christopher hope, has exclusive .

christopher hope, has exclusive. she sat down with suella braverman for her first tv interview since leaving office interview since leaving office in october of last year. >> suella braverman , why won't >> suella braverman, why won't this rwanda bill stop the boats ? this rwanda bill stop the boats? >> well, christopher , whilst >> well, christopher, whilst there are some welcome elements in this third piece of legislation that the government has put through to stop the boats, unfortunately it is fundamentally fatally flawed for two big reasons. fundamentally fatally flawed for two big reasons . firstly, it two big reasons. firstly, it does not preclude individual claimants. that's illegal migrants who have come here on the boats from legally challenging through the courts our powers to detain or to remove them. so what we'll see is wide scale and repetitive. indeed civil claims being made through the court s time and time again , only having the time again, only having the effect of delaying their removal to rwanda. secondly it doesn't stop the scenario that we all saw in june 2022 whereby the

plane was grounded on the tarmac because a judge in the european court of human rights, at the 11th hour, pursuant to an opaque process where the uk government wasn't even represented by, locked the flight from taking off. and there's nothing in this bill that will prevent that from happening again. >> so the changes you're backing with robert jenrick your former colleague in the home office, and others too, will stop that happen. is that right? these changes we've engaged with the government over several weeks , government over several weeks, and we've now tabled several amendments in the name, largely of robert jenrick, but also of sir bill cash to fix the bill. >> and we're putting them forward in the spirit of constructive engagement with the government. they will dramatically reduce the ability of people to thwart their removal through the courts and they will emphasise and clarify that these pyjama injunctions, these rule 39 orders from the

european court are not binding and they will empower a minister, secretary of state for the home department to direct that these flights can take off. because what we want to see if we want to stop the boats is regular, uh, flights taking off to rwanda with large numbers of passengers, you know , a token passengers, you know, a token flight with a handful of people on them on it is not going to stop the boats. we need an effective deterrent . people are effective deterrent. people are coming over in their thousands on the small boats. they need to know that if they get here, they will be detained. they will be put on a plane and they will be removed to rwanda . so we need removed to rwanda. so we need a large powers and we need to reduce the ability of these illegal migrants to block their removal. the pm wants bright ideas, he told voters in accrington on monday this week. >> that is, he looking at any of your measures? have you been heard that the pm is looking at yourideas heard that the pm is looking at your ideas you're proposing? >> well, i would respectfully say that these are some bright ideas we've put forward. i

ideas that we've put forward. i mean, i have personally some expertise this subject. i expertise in this subject. i advocated for many of these measures 12 months ago when i was home secretary, uh, the prime minister refused to accept them. then he's come some way forward. he's now introduced a third bill. as i say , with some third bill. as i say, with some of those measures. but unfortunately it's lacking in the essential things that is going to make this bill work, thatis going to make this bill work, that is going to stop the boats. so we've got some bright ideas. we've engaged constructively . we we've engaged constructively. we want this bill to work it currently does not. and to pretend otherwise , i'm afraid, pretend otherwise, i'm afraid, does a disservice to the british public. it amounts to a betrayal to the british public. i want to stop the boats. i want this government to stop the boats. it's got a chance to do that. and that's why i'm urging the prime accept our prime minister to accept our amendments we can work amendments so that we can work together fix this bill and together to fix this bill and stop the boats. >> there votes next week, >> there are votes next week, tuesday, wednesday in the committee stage in the commons, and on and there's a third reading on the whole bill. >> if the government doesn't accept your amendments or the

amendments, go through amendments, don't go through what that third what happens at that third reading potentially wednesday. >> will you well >> what will you do? well listen, i am i'm only going to support a bill that works as currently drafted . currently drafted. >> this bill does not work. currently drafted. >> this bill does not work . and >> this bill does not work. and if there are no improvements to it , i will if there are no improvements to it, i will have to if there are no improvements to it , i will have to vote if there are no improvements to it, i will have to vote against it. i'm afraid i'm sent to parliament to vote for things , parliament to vote for things, to be for things or to be against them, to not sit on the fence. and i owe it to my constituents . i owe it to the constituents. i owe it to the british people to be transparent and honest about the situation that we're in. it's absolutely essential that we deliver on this pledge to stop the boats. >> how many of the other colleagues of yours, the 54 or so, have signed many of these amendments will vote against it at third reading. >> amended. >> if it's not amended. >> if it's not amended. >> listen, been working >> listen, i've been working extensively over the last few weeks with many, many colleagues, by their support that encouraged by their support that we've over 50 conservative we've got over 50 conservative mps have now publicly put mps who have now publicly put their names to these amendments,

who share our concerns , ones who who share our concerns, ones who want to fix the bill. this is a significant number of backbenchers who feel very strongly, and we will all be discussing this matter intensively over the next few days, because you could defeat the government and help labour defeat the government and potentially the government potentially bring the government down week. listen, down next week. well, listen, what objective is to what my objective is, is to deliver boat, a bill. what my deliver a boat, a bill. what my objective to deliver objective is, is to deliver a bill works and it's far bill that works and it's far better to defeat this bill because it doesn't work and start again with a new bill that will work, then proceed on a false premise. then proceed on a bafis false premise. then proceed on a basis that amounts to, uh, something that won't stop the boats. we . we may all feel boats. we. we may all feel a temporary sense of achievement by passing a bill, but in a few months time, when we see that plane grounded on the tarmac , plane grounded on the tarmac, when we're failing to remove people rwanda , when we are people to rwanda, when we are clogged courts , it clogged up in the courts, it will very , very will be very, very disappointing. people will disappointing. and people will ask rightly, did you do

ask us rightly, what did you do to try and avoid that catastrophe ? see, that's what catastrophe? see, that's what i'm trying to do now. i'm trying to a catastrophe of to avoid a catastrophe of failing to deliver on this pledge. >> do other ministers still in government share your concerns and might some have to resign next well personally next week? well personally speaking, . been very , uh, speaking, i have. been very, uh, concerned by the high number of ministers . to whom i have spoken ministers. to whom i have spoken , who i have grave reservations about. >> this bill. oh, dozens. i actually haven't spoken to many ministers who genuinely believe that this bill is going to work privately. uh under their breath, they say to me, uh, we know this bill won't work. we know this bill won't work. we know that the we're exposed and we're vulnerable to the european court in this bill. we know that this bill will only open the floodgates to litigation and claims and lawyers bringing repetitive claims . but, you repetitive claims. but, you know, we want to continue and we, you know, so, so i think

that there's a very widespread level of concern privately amongst ministers. >> so some may have to resign to, to go with their conscience. >> this is, you know, every minister here has to grapple with many, many conflict factors. and it's a very personal decision. i'm someone who resigned from government because i couldn't support theresa may's brexit betrayal. and the terms of her withdrawal agreement. it takes courage. it takes principle to resign and give up the trappings of office, which are quite seductive. but it does have an impact because ultimately , if you take a stand ultimately, if you take a stand on principle, it means something. and that's why i applaud my colleague robert jenrick, who who did resign on principle because he had profound disagreements with this policy and this bill. >> do you understand, though, the bind that pm is in rishi the bind that the pm is in rishi sunak, he's got try and keep sunak, he's got to try and keep the left of his right the left of his party right happy, the right happy . he's happy, the right happy. he's gone far as he can on both gone as far as he can on both sides. he's teetering along a kind of ledge, isn't he, to get this bill through parliament and

he's hoping it will work. he says it will work in the first flights take off may. do you flights take off in may. do you understand they've gone understand the they've gone as far they number 10. he far as they can. number 10. he can't go any further. no i disagree with that. >> fundamentally. um, firstly hoping it will work is wholly insufficient . right now we're at insufficient. right now we're at the end of the parliamentary terms. um, this is the third act of parliament that we will be passing to stop the boats . passing to stop the boats. pledges have made, slogans pledges have been made, slogans have been trumpeted, promises have been trumpeted, promises have have been made. time and time again. and the british people are sick and tired of broken promises. we can't afford to get it wrong . and so wishful to get it wrong. and so wishful thinking. there's no there's no more time for wishful thinking when it comes to stopping the boats. we're we're facing a general election and if we don't get it right and if we don't stop the boats, the british people are not going to forgive us. critics will say it's all about leadership. >> do you want to be leader? >> do you want to be leader? >> listen, there's no leadership election. i'm not running for leader. there is a general

leader. but there is a general election i want us win election and i want us to win that general election. and at the the current the moment, on the current polling according to public polling and according to public opinion, about half of my colleagues set to lose their colleagues are set to lose their seats. i want them to win their seats. i want them to win their seats. and we're going to win our seats if we pass a bill that works , even a bill which might works, even a bill which might works, even a bill which might work might save some seats. >> unfortunately , this bill >> but unfortunately, this bill won't work. >> it's absolutely clear the government's own lawyers themselves that themselves have admitted that it's highly likely that this bill won't work. the you know, our legal advice has made it clear that this bill won't work. i've spoken to practising lawyers in this field who have made it very clear that this bill is faulty. >> the pm says it will. he will ignore any foreign courts or intervene in the work of the uk. do you not believe him when he says that? >> afraid the position >> i'm afraid the position within and the within government and the prevailing legal view is that a ruling from the strasbourg court is binding on uk

boats. you know, i'm here because i believe vividly in things . i'm because i believe vividly in things. i'm here because i believe passionately in delivering for the british

people . they are fed up with the people. they are fed up with the boats. they are fed up with broken promises as this is our last chance to get it right . and last chance to get it right. and woe betide a government that fails the british people again. >> well, suella braverman, thank you for joining >> well, suella braverman, thank you forjoining us >> well, suella braverman, thank you for joining us today on gb news. thank you. thank you. whoa >> betide a government that fails us, the british people again most extraordinary that sir words coming from a conservative member of parliament. well christopher hope joins us here on the sofa and chris there were pretty stark words there. pretty stark warnings for the prime minister >> that's right. so there is a reminder, viewers, there's a vote next week on this rwanda bill. there were measures trying to mend it, to strengthen it or soften it, depending if you're left or of the party. left or right of the party. suella braverman and around 54 of her colleagues on the right of her colleagues on the right of party want to it of the party want to make it tougher, make it harder for lawyers to frustrate these deportations of illegally lawyers to frustrate these deportamigrantsllegally lawyers to frustrate these deporta migrants to gally lawyers to frustrate these deporta migrants to rwanda. arrived migrants to rwanda. that's here. that's what's happening here. and the prime and she's saying to the prime minister terms unless you

minister in terms unless you accept some of these ideas, the pm wanted bright ideas is in accrington. this last monday just gone well, here were some bright ideas. she would say . and bright ideas. she would say. and unless the pm takes some of these ideas on board in these big votes on tuesday and wednesday, she will vote down the the question the the bill. now, the question the government got work out government has got to work out and the how many more and the whips, how many more more like her. because if more think like her. because if enough agree isn't enough tory mps agree isn't going to work, let's vote it down and start again. her idea is start again. if it's voted down the government could be defeated. >> so what sort of numbers would we would be needed then to vote it down? >> well, there's a working majority of around 54 or so. so you know, around 30 or so because the some might abstain, but 30 voting against be enough to see this defeated because of course, labour will vote against it at third reading. probably not on the on the amendments. the amendments will not be supported by labour party. so the third reason, the key vote at after all changes, at the after all these changes, if they're if none of them

if they're not, if none of them accepted by the pm, it's getting quite again. and quite existential again. and a brexiteer heard the brexiteer you heard the interview talked interview there. she talked about matter more about some things matter more than just doing it for the sake of it. trying to deliver of it. she's trying to deliver for people are tired of for people. people are tired of being told we want to stop the boats. you're going boats. if you're not going to work, with it? is her work, why bother with it? is her position, number 10, position, of course. number 10, the he's sitting here the pm where he's sitting here will be saying don't let the perfect the enemy the perfect be the enemy of the good. this might work. we think it work. i've got good it will work. i've got good advice. any tougher row and it will collapse deal. left will collapse the deal. the left when is the best when accept it. this is the best bet. suella what are you doing? >> for this >> some people voted for this bill on reading, on the bill on first reading, on the condition that it will be amended. we could very well see amended. we could very well see a situation next week where there are of amendments put there are lots of amendments put before but not before the house, but not a single one carries a majority of the house because people voted for the first version of the bill, saying i wanted it amended in this way or i wanted to amend it in this way, and it almost takes back those years of takes us back to those years of indicative votes in the house of commons. brexit years where commons. the brexit years where nothing you nothing had a majority and you

had gridlock . that's had absolute gridlock. that's a real possibility. >> the difference is this is an actual bill, an actual law rather than indicative votes for about a meaningful vote on an idea. nothing idea. nothing nothing legislative situation . legislative in that situation. but this case, we could be but in this case, we could be facing the third reading vote on wednesday when the government might it. i mean, if might might lose it. i mean, if that happens, sorry. that that happens, sorry. if that happens, labour might in happens, labour might respond in their way. i mean, we're not their own way. i mean, we're not sure yet when she says this isn't about bringing the isn't about bringing down the government, mind that government, bearing in mind that we are in an election year, the ramification is, though, could be huge . be huge. >> and she must know that well, she that the government she knows that if the government is on this , labour will is defeated on this, labour will try and call vote of no confidence. >> the following day. um and it'll performative because it'll be performative because tory mps won't vote with labour to bring down the government, because they know how far behind the polls they well some the polls they are. well some some are some conservative mps are already voting with their feet and quitting. already voting with their feet ancs0|itting. already voting with their feet ancso perhaps quite. >> so perhaps quite. >> so perhaps quite. >> i don't think so. >> i don't think so. >> just think it's >> i think i just think it's going be further chaos. i going to be further chaos. i mean, the suella braverman men going to be further chaos. i mean, tisupporters raverman men going to be further chaos. i mean, tisupporters would an men going to be further chaos. i mean, tisupporters would saynen going to be further chaos. i mean, tisupporters would say wei and her supporters would say we

have to this right. this have to get this right. this isn't to work. why carry isn't going to work. why carry on with it? why put forward something which won't work, won't deliver on stop boats won't deliver on stop the boats will her colleagues will cost half her colleagues losing their seat. very interesting. >> her definition of what a successful look like. successful bill would look like. she concede that this she seemed to concede that this version of the bill would get some flights off the ground to rwanda, but maybe with not enough people on them because of these orders, these these section 39 orders, these pyjama injunction things, she says it would be a failure if we just had a couple of flights going. she wants regular flights. >> that's that's an interesting line that i hadn't heard before . line that i hadn't heard before. >> no. and in the past it was it was to show to the people smugglers that there model is broken. if you arrive here, you go but for her go to rwanda. but for her position that means thousands of people flown to people have to be flown to rwanda before it starts to bite, not just few. and of course, not just a few. and of course, the pm number say the first the pm number 10 say the first flights will take off in may. in the spring. we'll wait and see. but a real we are but this is a real we are entering a very, very difficult, tncky entering a very, very difficult, tricky week for the tory party in government .

in the government. >> i can that again. >> i can say that again. christopher hope, political edhon christopher hope, political editor. thanks and editor. thanks so much and thanks doing great thanks for doing that great interview. >> well, more . trouble for the >> well, more. trouble for the prime minister. he says no more strikes are planned on yemen after this joint operation between the uk and the us overnight. well, we'll have the very latest with our security editor after this short

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news. good afternoon britain. >> it's 1:28 news. good afternoon britain. >> it's1:28 in the us news. good afternoon britain. >> it's 1:28 in the us and uk. airstrikes on houthi rebels in yemen will not go without punishment or retaliate . action. punishment or retaliate. action. that's the warning from the iran backed group. this lunchtime. >> the overnight strikes were launched after houthi rebels ignore warnings to stop attacking shipping in the red sea, one of the busiest shipping routes in the world. and there's now growing fears that this military action could ignite a wider conflict in the middle east. >> however, prime minister rishi sunak just defied the strikes as limited, necessary and proportionate action in self—defence . well, let's get self—defence. well, let's get more on this now with our gb news home and security editor mark white and mark. to some extent, there's been criticism that this action happened without parliamentary oversight and all the rest of it. but it's also action that's happened after the royal naval vessels were fired at and after weeks and weeks of many dozens of

ships being attacked by these rebels , commercial ships. yeah. rebels, commercial ships. yeah. >> i mean, it should come as no surprise to the houthi rebels that this was the inevitable outcome of constantly ignoring those warnings from the us and the uk not to fire on the commercial ships and on those warships. in fact, just on tuesday night, we had the single biggest drone and missile launch from the houthis in months, and they've been doing it for months. it was a 27th separate attack, just last night, and that was enough for the us and the uk. they decided after quite a bit of planning, clearly , that a bit of planning, clearly, that they were going to go after these targets, this infrastructure targets related to the ability of the houthi rebels to launch these drones and these missiles. um and i guess the, the sort of the next, uh, phase we need to look out for is just what the response from the houthis will be. they

have already said that this will not go unanswered. they've told us, according to their assessment tonight, that five houthi members were killed and six were injured. and there are pictures , as hopefully we can pictures, as hopefully we can bnng pictures, as hopefully we can bring you of the scenes in sana'a in the yemeni capital, where hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets. there that's a bit of a close up shot. but when we get the opportunity to see the wider shots, it's absolutely incredible. mark. >> amazing that they're dancing, given that they're backed by iran. and in iran it's illegal to dance on the streets. >> yeah , well there we are, mark. >> yeah look at that. >> yeah look at that. >> that area right through the, uh, the centre of the capital. >> they're just a mass, a sea of people . but then, you know, when people. but then, you know, when you , uh, rule with an iron fist you, uh, rule with an iron fist as these rebels do in that part of yemen , it's easy to, uh, try

of yemen, it's easy to, uh, try to, uh, you know , get the to, uh, you know, get the masses, uh, mobilise seized on for such events. but, uh, you know, that's one thing. the protests . let's see what happens protests. let's see what happens in the hours and days ahead. we know that some of the shipping companies have decided that they are going to reroute it away from the red sea for the time being, and they've gone down round africa , which is a very round africa, which is a very significant, um, addition to the journey of the voyaging to the uk, for instance. so that's an extra ten days onto the trip. >> rishi sunak has indicated that there will at the moment be no more strikes, but yet the houthi rebels say that there will be a response from them . will be a response from them. >> yeah. i mean, it's slightly unclear. the messaging i think that's come out from the us, um, and the uk because you've got president biden saying he will not hesitate to launch further strikes if there's more provocation in, uh, from yemen.

and while rishi sunak has said clearly that this was intended as limited and proportionate action that was necessary , action that was necessary, that's not the way it will be interpreted. and we know it's not because we've already heard from the houthis in yemen that they see this as, you know, an, you know, an act that requires a response and a significant response. they say, let's just listen to actually what rishi sunak said a little earlier when he was asked about this and he said, effectively, he's out in ukraine at the moment announcing more money for the ukrainians in their fight against russia. he said that the uk and the us were left with no choice last month. >> we've seen a significant increase in the number of houthi attacks on commercial shipping in the red sea. that's putting innocent lives at risk. it's disrupting the global economy andifs disrupting the global economy and it's also, uh, destabilising

the region. and in that time , the region. and in that time, we've also seen the single biggest attack back on a navy warship, a british navy warship that we've seen in decades . now, that we've seen in decades. now, it's clear that that type of behaviour can't carry on. that's why we joined with allies in issuing very public condemnation of this behaviour. issuing very public condemnation of this behaviour . and it's why of this behaviour. and it's why i made the decision with allies to take what i believe to be necessary, proportionate and targeted action against military targets degrade and disrupt targets to degrade and disrupt houthi capability . we won't houthi capability. we won't hesitate to protect lives and ensure the safety of commercial shipping . shipping. >> the prime minister, speaking there, well, thank you, mark, for bringing us all of that. we'll be diving into more detail, particularly for the impact on us here in britain with expert panel. that's with our expert panel. that's after your news headlines . after your news headlines. >> tom, pip, thank you very much. and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. the headlines

at just after 1:30. well as we've been hearing and seeing for those watching on tv, thousands of yemenis have taken to the streets of capital to the streets of the capital sana'a, in solidarity sana'a, protesting in solidarity with gaza. that's after overnight, the uk, along with the us, launched overnight strikes on the houthi targets . strikes on the houthi targets. those joint strikes from the uk and us were in response to attacks on ships in the red sea. the government says that the attacks overnight are lawful and were proportionate . but a were proportionate. but a spokesman for the militant group says that they, though, will continue to block the passage of ships and they're warning the uk and the us will not go without punishment or retaliation . the punishment or retaliation. the prime says that the uk prime minister says that the uk needs a strong signal needs to send a strong signal that houthi rebel attacks in the in the red sea are wrong, and cannot be carried out without impunity . cannot be carried out without impunity. he, meanwhile , the impunity. he, meanwhile, the former home secretary, says the rwanda bill, set to be debated in the commons next week, doesn't hold water and that it won't stop the boats. in an exclusive interview, her first since being sacked, suella braverman has told news

braverman has told gb news political editor chris hope the government introduce government must introduce tougher measures. what we want tougher measures. what we want to see, if we want to stop the boats is regular , uh, flights boats is regular, uh, flights taking off to rwanda with large numbers of passengers, you know, a token flight with a handful of people on them on it is not going to stop the boats. >> we need an effective deterrent . people are coming deterrent. people are coming overin deterrent. people are coming over in their thousands on the small boats. they need to know that if they get here, they will be detained. they will be put on a plane and they will be removed to rwanda . meanwhile rishi sunak to rwanda. meanwhile rishi sunak says he is sending a strong signal of uk support for ukraine after announcing a £25 billion military aid package for the coming year. >> it's britain's largest annual commitment since russia's invasion began. rishi sunak says britain will stand with ukraine for as long as it takes, and that our support to all ukrainians cannot and will not falter. the prime minister is in kyiv as part of a surprise visit

this afternoon , and israel has this afternoon, and israel has rejected accusations made by south africa at the un's top court that its military action in gaza is a state led campaign of genocide . it comes as of genocide. it comes as protesters gather outside the international court of justice as judges in the hague hold a second day of hearings over the ongoing war in gaza. israel says the accusations brought by south africa are grossly distorted and as ever, you can get more on all of those stories and many more by visiting our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> for a valuable legacy your family can own gold coins will always shine bright. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , and here's a look at the report, and here's a look at the markets this afternoon. >> the pound will buy you 131.2730 and >> the pound will buy you $1.2730 and ,1.1636. the price of gold is currently . £1,607.46

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big stories of the day. the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner , and the nicole turner, and the conservative peer and former adviser to boris johnson, kulveer ranger. and have to kulveer ranger. and we have to kick off with these extraordinary strikes that the royal air force engaged with, along with the united states air force last night. kulveer was it the right thing to do? >> well, it appears that the decision has been made that we have to do something now. >> we have to take into account that this operation, operation prosperity guardian, that us that this operation, operation prosbutity guardian, that us that this operation, operation prosbut hasiuardian, that us that this operation, operation prosbut has another that us that this operation, operation prosbut has another ten, us that this operation, operation prosbut has another ten, 11 us led but has another ten, 11 countries, including germany, not the french at the moment. let's note that, um, involved. so this is an internal coalition looking at the economic impact of those attacks from the houthis on the trade route. so there's obviously been a lot of collaboration internationally, a lot of discussion and thought got into these strikes. so it's not just something that's a knee jerk reaction. that's this operation has been in place since december. there have been obviously . there's been obviously warnings. there's been escalation houthis in escalation from the houthis in terms what's been going on. terms of what's been going on. and obviously look to hear

and we obviously look to hear the full detail, justification i'm sure the prime minister will share with everyone when parliament returns on monday, but think there is probably but i think there is probably more to this than we understand at the moment. timing seems to have been moving quite fast and we don't always get all the intelligence around what has dnven intelligence around what has driven these strikes. so i think there's a lot more behind the reasoning justification of reasoning and justification of these was these strikes than just it was right , amy, we are seeing right now, amy, we are seeing already the 13, um, increase . already the 13, um, increase. >> i think it is in crude oil. there's been a reaction, given the impact on the economy here, potentially is huge. you know, we're only just seeing inflation getting down low. no absolutely. >> you really can't underestimate the domestic consequences of that shipping route. >> i mean it's tiny. but i think if you can't go through that you've got to go all the way around. and that affects so much of international trade. it's crucial to our commercial endeavours to be able to have that free. but something that struck me that with the with

struck me was that with the with the, um, commercial oil interceptions, they were taking the mariners hostage and they were using anti—ship ballistic missiles, which we haven't seen before. so . action really, before. so. action really, really had to be taken. but it's important to note that it was very, very precise. there hasn't been any civilian deaths. and it made me be interested in looking at the sense that the us at this in the sense that the us and the uk's forces were able to use those precision military tactics. well, the idf is the strongest military force in the world. so if we can be very precise about this, um, procedure with this operation , procedure with this operation, then why can't israel be more precise in gaza? >> i think we should probably be a bit cautious with that argument, because we do know that hamas's main strategy has been used to use human shields as their. yeah. and so where you've got a complete strategy based on putting civilians in terms of your, as your defence line, it is it's going to be impossible to not have civilian casualties. now, i'm not

defending the situation. i think, you know, we have to look at the number of civilian casualties that there are now in the hamas, um, israel conflict. but that is the strategy that hamas has. >> i agree with you. one of the criticism has been that the us and the uk have launched these airstrikes overnight on houthi rebels. they're not being so quick to act when it comes to the suffering of people in gaza. >> well, as i say, i think there's more to come around. what's driven the timings on on this since december and obviously pre december , uh, the obviously pre december, uh, the international coalition has been looking at the impact this is also an economic issue . as you also an economic issue. as you say. the operation coalition prosperity. this is the impact as we're talking about not just the uk economy but the global economy which is teetering at the moment, actually covid it was oil prices have jumped by more 4, 4, 4, but, um, more than 14, 4, 4, 4, but, um, 13% of crude oil travels via the red sea. yes and i think 15% of just global trade is heading

through that. as you said, a very tight only, um, very, very vulnerable , very vulnerable vulnerable, very vulnerable route for, for the port of rotterdam and for the port of dover and for the port, the sort of western europe trade that's coming from india, that's coming from china. >> it's so import isn't and can double the length of that journey if it has to go all the way, all the way around the cape of good hope rather than through the suez canal. but i wonder this sort of operation, um, has been a long time coming. the houthis have been attacking this trade for many , many weeks now trade for many, many weeks now since the end of last year. appears to some extent . has the appears to some extent. has the west not been a bit slow to catch on to it? >> it's a really good question, tom. look, i'm no defence specialist or internal um, relations on this, this type of argument, but i'm sure there have been many channels of conversation ocean through the to the iranians, who are obviously backing the houthi rebels, as we've been hearing , rebels, as we've been hearing, um, and to the rebels themselves

, also in the region itself, because we know it's a very fragile region . there's a lot of fragile region. there's a lot of volatility amongst its own grouping of nations . so there grouping of nations. so there has a number of different has been a number of different channels and conversations that has led to potential for action. >> yemen has been involved in this coalition as well. so it's not just all west versus middle east. there are lots of middle eastern partners here too. that's right. >> but then also have seen >> but then also we have seen reaction of reaction from the likes of erdogan in turkey, which has suggested otherwise. and i do think there is this feeling think that there is this feeling in the middle east that live of the are valued more the westerners are valued more than those of the arab nations , than those of the arab nations, which is why this was a complete last resort . and i know that last resort. and i know that there have been ongoing conversations and diplomacy, but unfortunately, diplomacy completely broke down. and i don't think the us was going to be able to continue anything when they're when their vessels, when they're when their vessels, when they're when their vessels, when the mariners were literally being taken hostage. and like i said before , anti—ballistic said before, anti—ballistic anti—ship, ballistic started to be used. so they really they really were left with no choice.

>> what the of this >> what about the risk of this conflict in the middle east, though, just just deepening and broadening? mean, we're broadening? i mean, we're looking at pictures. i don't know whether we can to know whether we can go to them. these live pictures from from yemen, upon thousands yemen, thousands upon thousands of people coming out into in support of the houthi rebels, in support of the houthi rebels, in support of the houthi rebels, in support of palestinians in gaza, because that's what the rebels say they're defending, although thatis say they're defending, although that is questionable . that is questionable. >> well, it's all plays into the hands of the doesn't it? hands of the rebels, doesn't it? if west attack pictures. if the west attack pictures. yeah, we can ourselves in yeah, we can find ourselves in that position of then being seen as the aggressors in this, in this conflict and the west being the aggressor. so you can unify almost the grouping and the, the anger towards the west. i think the real challenge here is actually one of the real challenges is those nations and the role of saudi arabia , saudi the role of saudi arabia, saudi arabia, who in recent times has been sort calming down been sort of calming down situations in around the middle east, obviously has a huge now, um, not just political but economic standing that it's taking in the west. we see it

playing a bigger role economically in this country. you newcastle united you know, newcastle united and various things. so it's various other things. so it's trying catch with of trying to catch up with some of the other states in terms of its role in western, in the western economy, how does this play out politically for them? they've got influence in the got huge influence in the region. what can they do to region. and what can they do to sort of maybe calm the situation 7 sort of maybe calm the situation ? i think they haven't stepped up . maybe is the point up yet. maybe this is the point where can sort of play where they can sort of play a real role in a role in international diplomacy. >> think it was >> while i think it was unavoidable, all the strikes overnight , but unavoidable, all the strikes overnight, but think now unavoidable, all the strikes overnight , but think now there overnight, but i think now there needs to be more conversations about what is going on in gaza and israel's response to gaza. but of course, south africa in the today, israel will the hague today, israel will give its evidence to, to defend themselves against the accusations that a genocide is going on. and i think where the international community goes from there with regards to its support for , for um, for israel support for, for um, for israel will determine the next step and hopefully can an ease these tensions that we're seeing. and frankly, it won't be inflamed

because that's a terrifying prospect . prospect. >> frankly. big questions for eqypt >> frankly. big questions for egypt as well for keeping that rafah crossing closed. not letting out if it letting people get out if it really is all going on, there, shall just quickly move to on shall we just quickly move to on the big story today ? the other big story today? suella braverman spoken in suella braverman has spoken in her first television interview since since being fired as home secretary and amy, she sounds like she's sort of on a war footing that this bill that's going to be before the house of commons next week is either amended or suella braverman and her coalition voted down. >> i know, i think it's silly really, at this point she is just heckling from the back benches. if we want to be realistic about the power that she really has and i think divided heckling, heckling from the benches , she says she's the back benches, she says she's trying bring down the trying not to bring down the government, not trying to government, not trying not to bnng government, not trying not to bring government by bring down the government by increasing divisions within increasing the divisions within the already fractured party. she i like she just wants the i feel like she just wants the opportunity to grandstand on television , and not sure her television, and i'm not sure her words actually come to any

words will actually come to any fruition really, apart from dividing the party. >> and it's a huge vote next >> and yet it's a huge vote next week a huge series of votes week or a huge series of votes on lots of different amendments over two days in the house of commons cover. >> i agree with you and >> yes, i agree with you and i kind of agree with amy. you know, suella is now a backbenchen know, suella is now a backbencher. she she probably has to take but i do has to take a view. but i do think she believes in what she's saying. taken a position. saying. she's taken a position. she's on that she's been very strong on that position even as position all the way. even as home secretary. but i think the prime minister has a clear objective. he a very narrow objective. he has a very narrow pathway getting bill pathway of getting this bill through and i don't think the ex—home secretary is helping him here. now, if she wants the outcome, which is a better way of stopping these boats. this is the bill going to do it. the bill that's going to do it. so, so, so, so she should be supporting the bill. will be supporting the bill. i will be supporting the bill. i will be supporting bill because supporting the bill because i want see less people drowning want to see less people drowning in the english channel. i want to see less of those people smugglers making money off the backs people's desperate backs of people's desperate situation. bill helps to situation. and the bill helps to do that. so let's support the bill. as a conservative. let's

support the bill and get it through. so i think that's the conversation i would be having with suella even when she was home she never really home secretary, she never really did push the bill through. did help push the bill through. >> a good talk. but >> she gave a good talk. but actually in those affairs actually in those home affairs committees, she could never cost it . when challenged some it. when challenged about some of she made, such as of the claims she made, such as people gaming the system, she could evidence of could only provide evidence of four so it like she four people. so it was like she was chatting at the top, was chatting away at the top, but really getting the but not really getting to the substance bottom. she substance at the bottom. she never attention to never had any attention to detail, i think that's detail, and i think that's perhaps set it in motion to fail with her own doing. perhaps set it in motion to fail witicovid wn doing. perhaps set it in motion to fail witicovid oneioing. perhaps set it in motion to fail witicovid one ofng. perhaps set it in motion to fail witicovid one of the things that >> covid one of the things that suella braverman said to christopher political christopher hope, our political edhon even christopher hope, our political editor, even if this editor, was that even if this bill passes unamended, it could get some flights off. but without those amendments, particularly without those amendments to deal with each rule, 39 orders without those amendments, not enough flights would get off. people would be picked off the flights using those injunctions , as we've seen those injunctions, as we've seen before. is that a valid criticism? >> well, we're kind of talking about the perfect being the

enemy the here, aren't enemy of the good here, aren't we? of what is good enough? we? sort of what is good enough? the objective and it's the objective here, and it's a part overall objective, part of the overall objective, is to stop the incentives that people feel they have to come to here those smugglers who are bringing those poor people through here and if people through to here and if people realise that there is the potential to be sent to rwanda and that there's alternative and that there's an alternative that disincentivize some of that will disincentivize some of those and the those people, and that's the point. so stop boats. point. so stop the boats. >> the biggest issue, do you think for voters, i think it's smashing the misery of people being smuggled. >> this fake view of >> and given this fake view of that, they can get through to here. but drowning i think people have i think cost of living than the economy. well, i think i think we're really a compassionate nation who care about to these about what happens to these people being sold this people who are being sold this dream of here. and then dream of coming here. and then the what happens to the tragedy of what happens to them that's what the them on the way. that's what the british about. they british people care about. they don't want to people don't want to see people drowning in the english channel trying to get here. and the people smugglers so people smugglers winning. so this argument. this is part of that argument. >> if we are a >> well, if we are a compassionate nation and all the things said, surely

things you just said, surely we'd few more safe and we'd have a few more safe and legal routes. >> but we do. have many. but >> but we do. we have many. but this is about the illegal, illegal we have. many illegal trade that we have. many legal and thriving because we don't legal and thriving because we dont enough legal and thriving because we don't enough safe and legal don't have enough safe and legal routes. well, could debate don't have enough safe and legal routvariousl, could debate don't have enough safe and legal routvarious safe could debate don't have enough safe and legal routvarious safe routes debate don't have enough safe and legal routvarious safe routes that ite don't have enough safe and legal routvarious safe routes that we the various safe routes that we have afghanistans. yes, have from the afghanistans. yes, from or from ukraine, from hong kong or sudan. look, there's sudan. well, look, i there's many different routes for those. well, of well, we're part of an international of international coalition of countries that accept refugees and people and we'll and bring people in. and we'll continue that. it's continue to do that. but it's the trade we're the illegal trade that we're trying to kwarteng the next half an hour or so when you two are back, turner and back, amy nicole turner and kulveer ranger of lord ranger , kulveer ranger of lord ranger, thank for joining kulveer ranger of lord ranger, thank forjoining us here. >> uh, of course, much, much more to come. >> but rishi sunak is speaking in ukraine. let's go straight to that. if we can. he has been, uh, he has been there this morning announcing this extra aid for ukraine. listen to aid for ukraine. let's listen to him . him. >> and a message on behalf of the united kingdom and indeed, your the world. your allies around the world. ukraine alone , and ukraine is not alone, and ukraine is not alone, and ukraine will never be alone. putin might think that he can outlast us, but he is wrong. we

stand with you today. tomorrow and for as long as it takes , and for as long as it takes, because this war is about ukraine's right to defend itself and to determine your future . and to determine your future. >> well, just a flavour there of the prime minister speaking. we'll be seeing if we can get a little bit more from rishi sunak . it's interesting. um lord rangen . it's interesting. um lord ranger, that rishi sunak has made this trip. he's the first western leader to visit ukraine. uh this year. yes. >> look , i think the timing of >> look, i think the timing of this would have probably been planned long in advance. so i don't think this is just something that's just cropped up into minister's into the prime minister's agenda. obviously, all the other things that going things that are going on, events, dear events happen. things that are going on, evenbutiear events happen. things that are going on, even but we events happen. things that are going on, evenbut we are events happen. things that are going on, evenbut we are ensuringhappen. things that are going on, even but we are ensuring thaten. things that are going on, even but we are ensuring that the um, but we are ensuring that the commitment that our country has made to ukraine is being continued on the international stage , when we have seen stage, when we have seen wavering in different parts of the world, particularly in the us. the other challenge and amy, you were raising this is the different fronts that are opening around the world. opening up around the world. obviously now in

obviously israel, gaza now in the sea , potentially, you the red sea, potentially, you know, what happens in ukraine. could we could take our eye off the ball. so i think it's great that the prime minister is ensuring that the focus still ensuring that the focus is still on still part of an on this. it is still part of an existential conversation about, you know, what happens here. the west is fighting for freedom and democracy via the proxy of the ukraine. and we have to keep an eye on that. well, hold that thought. >> we'll have much

gb news. good afternoon. britain it's 2 pm. on friday the 12th of january. the uk strikes back two days after iran backed houthi rebels fired attack drones at the royal navy, the uk , along the royal navy, the uk, along with the us, launches an overnight operation. >> they've struck 16 sites in yemen and killed at least five houthi rebels. the prime minister says the strikes have sent a strong signal. minister says the strikes have sent a strong signal . we're sent a strong signal. we're talking about that shortly. >> uk economy under threat . the >> uk economy under threat. the economy might have grown by 0.3, according to new data. wow. but what impact could the rising geopolitical tensions and continue growing attacks to key shipping routes in the red sea have closer to home, our economics and business editor will break it all down. >> rishi sunak. in ukraine, the prime minister makes a surprise

visit there alongside top military officials. the uk is providing cash for british made surveillance long—range strike and sea drones. surveillance long—range strike and sea drones . a new uk ukraine and sea drones. a new uk ukraine security agreement is being signed . signed. and of course, our political editor , christopher hope, has editor, christopher hope, has secured the first television interview with the former home secretary, suella braverman , secretary, suella braverman, since she resigned, since she was fired, i should say, in that october reshuffle . october reshuffle. >> it's a it's a pretty stark interview, as you might expect, she did have plenty to say, including that she would vote against the rwanda bill if amendments are not made to her satisfaction. >> at the moment, she says the bill is fatally flawed and does not stop planes flying off. >> she says that they have

already been two legislative attempts to stop the boats in recent years. this would be the third act of parliament to do that, and she couldn't vote for it. if she didn't think it would work . that parliamentary work. that parliamentary showdown, a committee of the whole house of commons taking place on tuesday and wednesday next week. >> it was a wide ranging interview that suella braverman has done with christopher hope, our political editor. we will be playing the whole interview for you very shortly. stay with us. first, your headlines with sam . pip >> sir. tom, thank you very much. good afternoon. from the gb news room, i'm sam francis . gb news room, i'm sam francis. the headlines at just after 2:00. well, some breaking news into us migrants have apparently not crossed the english channel for 26 days. that's the longest gap in small boat crossings for some five years. arrivals have not been recorded since december

the 16th, according to the home office figures, with poor weather conditions potentially contributing to that lack of activity at sea . this latest activity at sea. this latest number is . longer than the 25 number is. longer than the 25 consecutive days without any crossings from february to march of 2020, well , as we've been of 2020, well, as we've been hearing, thousands of yemenis have taken to the streets of the capital sana'a, protesting in solidarity with gaza. that's after the uk , along with the us, after the uk, along with the us, launched overnight strikes on houthi targets. those joint strikes from the uk and the us were in response to attacks on ships in the red sea. the government says the attack overnight is lawful and proportionate. a spokesman , proportionate. a spokesman, though, for the militant group, says they will continue to block the passage ships . and the passage of ships. and they're also warning the uk and us will not go without punishment or retaliation. the prime minister says that the uk needs to send a strong signal that houthi rebel attacks in the red sea are wrong, be red sea are wrong, and cannot be carried impunity . carried out without impunity. >> our aim is very clear. it's to tensions and to

to de—escalate tensions and to restore stability to the region, and that's why our allies over the past few weeks have issued several statements of condemnation of what's happening, calling on the houthis to desist. indeed, just this week, we've seen a un security council resolution on condemning what's happening and saying that states have a right to self—defence. we have acted in self—defence. it's incumbent now on the houthis to stop carrying out these attacks, putting people's lives at risk. >> more than 2000 ships >> while more than 2000 ships have been forced to divert thousands of miles as a result of those strikes and we understand at least four oil tankers have also changed their course from the red sea. one of those ships is carrying around 2 million barrels of oil . the million barrels of oil. the prime minister has signed the documents confirming £2.5 billion of military aid to ukraine over the coming year. it's britain's largest annual commitment since russia's invasion in ukraine. rishi sunak made the announcement during a surprise visit to kyiv, with the package including long—range missiles, air defence and

artillery shells. mr sunak says britain will stand with for ukraine as long as it takes, and that our support to all ukrainians cannot and will not falter . and finally , bbc radio falter. and finally, bbc radio one's first ever female dj, annie nightingale, has died at the age of 83. nightingale was also the station's longest serving host afterjoining the serving host after joining the broadcaster in 1970. she remained the only woman on the line up for some 12 years. her family say she died at home after a short illness, and they've paid tribute to her, saying she was a pioneer, a trailblazer and an inspiration to many . trailblazer and an inspiration to many. that's trailblazer and an inspiration to many . that's the latest from to many. that's the latest from the gb newsroom . for more, we're the gb newsroom. for more, we're on tv, on digital radio and of course on your smart speaker. just say play gb news now though, it's back to tom and . though, it's back to tom and. pip former home secretary suella braverman was dismissed by the

prime minister last year after she criticised the police for being soft on pro—palestinian protesters . protesters. >> she's since been pressuring the government for tougher measures to stop the boats. >> our political editor , >> our political editor, christopher hope, has sat down with suella braverman for her first television interview since leaving office in october of last year . last year. >> suella braverman, why won't this rwanda bill stop the boats ? this rwanda bill stop the boats? >> well, christopher , whilst >> well, christopher, whilst there are some welcome elements in this third piece of legislation that the government has put through to stop the boats, unfortunately it is fundamentally fatally . flawed fundamentally fatally. flawed for two big reasons. fundamentally fatally. flawed for two big reasons . firstly, it for two big reasons. firstly, it doesn't preclude individual claimants. that's illegal migrants who have come here on the boats from legally challenging through the courts , challenging through the courts, use our powers to detain or to remove them. so what we'll see is wide scale and repetitive individual claims being made through the courts. time and

time again, only having the effect of delaying their removal to rwanda. secondly it doesn't stop the scenario that we all saw in june 2022 where by the plane was grounded on the tarmac because a judge in the european court of human rights, at the 11th hour, pursuant to an opaque process where the uk government wasn't even represented, block the flight from taking off. and there's nothing in this bill that will prevent that from happening again. >> so the changes you're backing with robert jenrick, your former colleague in the home office, and others too, will stop that happen. is that right? these changes we've engaged with the government over several weeks, and we've now tabled several amendments in the name, largely of robert jenrick, but also of sir bill cash to fix the bill and we're putting them forward in the spirit of constructive engagement with the government . engagement with the government. >> they will dramatically reduce the ability of people to thwart

their removal through the courts , and they will emphasise and clarify that these pyjama injunctions, these rule 39 orders from the european court are not binding and they will empower a minister, secretary of for state the home department to direct that these flights can take off. because what we want to see, if we want to stop the boats is regular, uh, flights taking off to rwanda with large numbers of passengers, you know, a token flight with a handful of people on them on it is not going to stop the boats. we need an effective deterrent . people an effective deterrent. people are coming over in their thousands on the small boats. they need to know that if they get here, they will be detained. they will be put on a plane and they will be removed to rwanda . they will be removed to rwanda. so we need a large powers and we need to reduce the ability of these illegal migrants to block their removal. the pm wants bright ideas. >> he told voters in accrington

on monday this week. that is, he looking at any of your measures ? looking at any of your measures? have you been heard that the pm is looking at your ideas you're proposing? >> well, i would respectfully say that these are some bright ideas that we've put forward. i mean, i have personally some expertise in subject. expertise in this subject. i advocated for many of these measures 12 months ago when i was home secretary. uh the prime minister refused to accept them. then he's come some way forward. he's now introduced a third bill. as i say, with some of those measures. but unfortunately, it's lacking in the essential things that is going to make this bill work , going to make this bill work, thatis going to make this bill work, that is going to stop the boats. so we've got some bright ideas. we've engaged constructively. we want this bill to work it currently does not. and to present pretend otherwise. i'm afraid , does a disservice to the afraid, does a disservice to the british public. it amounts to a betrayal to the british public. i want to stop the boats. i want this government to stop the boats. it's got a chance to do that. and why i'm urging that. and that's why i'm urging the minister to accept our

the prime minister to accept our amendments so that we can work together, bill and stop together, fix this bill and stop the boats. >> the votes next week, tuesday, wednesday in the committee stage in the commons. and there's in the commons. and then there's a whole a third reading on the whole bill. government doesn't bill. if the government doesn't accept or the accept your amendments or the amendments, go through amendments, don't go through what happens at that third reading potentially on reading vote potentially on wednesday what you wednesday. what will you do? >> listen, i'm only >> well, listen, i am i'm only going to support a bill that works as currently drafted. this bill does not work. and if there are no improvements to it, i will have to vote against it. i'm afraid i'm sent to parliament to vote for things to be for things or to be against them , not to sit on the fence them, not to sit on the fence and i owe it to my constituents . and i owe it to my constituents. i owe it to the british people to be transparent and honest about the situation that we're in. it's absolutely essential , in. it's absolutely essential, bill, that we deliver on this pledge to stop the boats. >> how many of the other colleagues of yours, the 54 or so, have signed many of these amendments will vote against it at third reading if it's not

amended. >> listen, been working in >> listen, i've been working in extensively the few extensively over the last few weeks with many, many colleagues, very colleagues, and i'm very encouraged their support . encouraged by their support. we've over 50 conservative we've got over 50 conservative mps who have now publicly put their names to these amendments, who share our concerns , who want who share our concerns, who want to fix the bill. this is a significant number of backbenchers who feel very strongly, and we will all be discussing this matter intensively over the next few days because you could defeat the government and help labour defeat the government and potentially government potentially bring the government down listen down next week. well, listen what objective to what my objective is, is to deliver boat, a bill. what deliver a boat, a bill. what my objective is, is to deliver a bill that works and it's far better to defeat this bill because it doesn't work. and start again with a new bill that will work. then proceed on a false premise, then proceed on a bafis false premise, then proceed on a basis that amounts to a something that won't stop the boats. we may all feel a temporary sense of achievement by passing a bill, but in a few

months time, when we see that plane grounded on the tarmac, when we're failing to remove people to rwanda, when we are clogged up in the courts, it will be very, very disappointing . and people will ask us rightly , what do to try and , what did you do to try and avoid that catastrophe? that's what i'm trying to do now. i'm trying to avoid a catastrophe of failing to deliver on this pledge. >> do other ministers still in government share your concerns and might some have to resign next week? and might some have to resign nexwell,k? and might some have to resign nexwell, personally speaking, >> well, personally speaking, i have been very concerned by the high number of ministers to whom ihave high number of ministers to whom i have spoken, who i have grave reservations about this bill. oh, dozens as i actually haven't spoken to many ministers who genuinely believe that this bill is going to work privately , uh, is going to work privately, uh, under their breath, they say to me , uh, we know this bill won't me, uh, we know this bill won't work . we know that the we're work. we know that the we're exposed and we're vulnerable to the european court in this bill.

we know that this bill will only open the floodgates to litigation and claims and lawyers bringing repetitive claims. but, you know, we want to continue. and we you know, so i think that there's a very widespread level of concern privately amongst ministers. so some may have to resign to back to back to go with their conscience. this is, you know, every every minister has to grapple with many, many conflicting factors. and it's a very personal decision. i'm someone who resigned from government because i couldn't support theresa may's brexit betrayal. and the terms of her withdrawal agreement. it takes courage. it takes principle to resign and give up the trappings of office, which are quite seductive. but it does have an impact because ultimate only if you take a stand on principle , you take a stand on principle, it means something. and that's why i applaud my colleague robert jenrick, who who did resign on principle because he had profound disagreements with this policy and this bill. >> do you understand, though, the bind that the pm is in rishi

sunak, he's got to try and keep the of party right. the left of his party right. happy the right happy. he's gone as far as he can on both sides. he's teetering a kind of he's teetering along a kind of ledge, isn't he, to get this bill through parliament and he's hoping it will work. he says it will work in the first flights take off in may. do you understand that? he's they've gone as far as they can. number 10. he can't go any further. >> no, no, i disagree with that. fundamentally um, firstly, hoping wholly hoping it will work is wholly insufficient . right now we're at insufficient. right now we're at the end of the parliamentary time. this is third act of time. this is the third act of parliament that we will be passing to stop the boats. pledges been slogans pledges have been made, slogans have , promises have been trumpeted, promises have been trumpeted, promises have made time and time have been made time and time again. and the british people are sick and tired of broken promises. we can't afford to get it wrong and so wishful thinking. there's no there's no more time for wishful thinking when it comes to stopping the boats. we're we're facing a general election, and if we

don't get it right, and if we don't get it right, and if we don't stop the boats, the british people are not going to forgive us. >> critics will say it's all about leadership. do you want to be leader? >> there's leadership >> listen, there's no leadership election. i'm not running for leader. is a general leader. but there is a general election and i want to win election and i want us to win that general election. and at the moment, on the current polling according public polling and according to public opinion of my opinion about half of my colleagues set to lose their colleagues are set to lose their seats. want to win their seats. i want them to win their seats, and we're going win seats, and we're going to win our if we pass a bill our seats. if we pass a bill that works, even a bill which might work might save some seats . but unfortunately, this bill won't work . it's absolutely won't work. it's absolutely clear government's clear the government's own lawyers themselves admitted lawyers themselves have admitted that it's highly likely that this bill won't work. that it's highly likely that this bill won't work . the, you this bill won't work. the, you know, our legal advice has made it clear that this bill won't work. i've spoken to practising lawyers in this field who have made it very clear that this bill is faulty. the pm says it will. >> he will ignore any foreign courts or intervene in the work of the uk. do you not believe him when he says that? >> i'm afraid the position within government and the

prevailing legal view is that a ruling from the strasbourg court is binding on uk ministers, and that's the other profound issue. that's raised by this bill. it's about who governs britain. is it the uk parliament and our democratically elected government that who which has a mandate to stop the boats? or is it some foreign court, a foreign judge and a foreign jurisdiction which has very little accountability and legitimacy ? i accountability and legitimacy? i would say. i mean, that's why my personal view is that we need to leave the european court of human rights and leave the european personally, european manifesto. personally, i have start having i think we have to start having this debate lively way this debate in a lively way because membership the because our membership of the european precisely what european court is precisely what is policy making and is stymieing policy making and is stymieing policy making and is stopping us from delivering, delivering on, on our pledge delivering on, on, on our pledge to control our borders. >> once again, it's all about sovereignty, it? this sovereignty, isn't it? this this debate. haven't, through the debate. we haven't, through the meaningful happened meaningful vote, uh, happened several years ago over brexit. it's about brexit again, isn't it? it's a sovereignty matter. next week.

>> it's about taking back control. yes there are real parallels with brexit. and you know, it's you know, i think that it's you know, i think that it's you know, there are parallels again with the meaningful vote. there was lots of voices, voices off at the time of meaningful vote , at the time of meaningful vote, uh, telling tory mps don't , uh, telling tory mps don't, don't rebel, don't speak out because you if you disagree with the terms of the withdrawal agreement, bring brexit in name only. do you remember that? don't granny . and they said, you don't granny. and they said, you know , i'm so proud that 28 of us know, i'm so proud that 28 of us took a stance of courage and principle and objective to objective to the terms of the withdrawal agreement. despite huge pressures to do otherwise . huge pressures to do otherwise. had we not done so, that faulty and betrayal brexit would have gone through and we may well have been in a very different situation. where is brexit all? >> there's all this worth potentially bringing down your government week, because if government next week, because if the defeated on the government is defeated on wednesday, might be a vote wednesday, there might be a vote of labour and of no confidence by labour and we could face early election

we could face an early election by this is not about bringing >> this is not about bringing down the government. this is about a bill that about delivering a bill that works stopping the boats. works and stopping the boats. you i'm because you know, i'm here because i believe vividly in things. i'm here because i believe passionately in delivering for the british people. they are fed up with the boats. they are fed up with the boats. they are fed up with the boats. they are fed up with broken promises. this is our last chance to get it right. and woe betide a government that fails the british people again. well suella braverman, thank you for us today on gb news. forjoining us today on gb news. >> you. thank you . >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> former home secretary suella braverman speaking there , saying braverman speaking there, saying that she might well vote against the government's landmark rwanda bill next week in the house of commons. >> we will bring you all the developments on that two day reading of the bill. the next stage . it's very controversial. stage. it's very controversial. we'll bring you the latest here on gb news >> but in other news, us and uk airstrikes on houthi rebels in yemen will not go without punishment or retaliation. that's the warning from those iran backed group of rebels this

lunchtime. >> the overnight strikes were launched after houthi rebels ignored warnings to stop attacking shipping in the red sea. one of the busiest shipping routes in the there's now routes in the world. there's now growing fears that this military action could ignite a wider conflict in the middle east. however, the prime minister has justified strikes as limited justified the strikes as limited , proportionate , necessary and proportionate action in self—defence . we can action in self—defence. we can now speak to former foreign secretary lord david owen . lord secretary lord david owen. lord owen, really appreciate you talking to us this afternoon . a talking to us this afternoon. a politician of such vast experience. i mean, you were you were foreign secretary, weren't you, in the in the mid 1970s. uh, so really want your insight into this ? yes. lord cameron, into this? yes. lord cameron, current foreign secretary, has been speaking and he has said that further rule further attacks are not ruled out . is attacks are not ruled out. is the uk doing the right thing here with this military action? owen. >> well, remember the uk is acting with nine other countries , not just the united states ,

, not just the united states, but even an arab country, bahrain and european countries, germany and the netherlands and countries far away as korea were all affected by it . i mean, this all affected by it. i mean, this is a crucial navigable waterway through the suez canal. and i think egypt has pretty strong views on it, too, because they're losing considerable revenues as many ships already have diverted around the cape and south africa . of course, and south africa. of course, that adds length to the journey and cost to the journey, and it comes back to all of us as consumers as it's fascinating to see that this agitation had been taking place for quite some time. >> in many ways , things had been >> in many ways, things had been building up to what happened last night . building up to what happened last night. how important was it that the uk and the us secured a resolution of the united nations two days ago? so, uh , allowing

two days ago? so, uh, allowing sanctioning retaliation for attacks on ships? i think that was very important. >> i think that you should try wherever you can to get, uh, international authority. but let's be quite clear. the rules of the sea are were in existence before the united nations and the free navigation of shipping and the free movement of goods , and the free movement of goods, commercially and not commercially and not commercially , is an integral commercially, is an integral part of a civilised world. and you can't allow this to be changed by the actions , changed by the actions, basically, of countries acting under the influence of iran. we all know that the houthi are basically responding to iranian pressure , and it's part of their pressure, and it's part of their overall pressure, which they've been putting on in many parts of the middle east. and we can expect to see more .

expect to see more. >> what do you say to people, lord owen, who raise this moral argument? why they say the us , argument? why they say the us, the uk and other countries are punishing houthi rebels in yemen to protect commercial shipping and yet are doing nothing to protect civilians in gaza . protect civilians in gaza. >> well, i don't think it's right that we're doing nothing to help. uh, the gaza situation. l, to help. uh, the gaza situation. i, for example , took many i, for example, took many initiatives directly with the secretary—general of the un to try and get an unprepared un force into gaza. so i don't take the fact that we've not been trying our best. the basic facts are that israel is fighting in gaza are that israel is fighting in make them realise that they probably will never get rid of hamas , uh, in gaza completely. hamas, uh, in gaza completely. and we have to have a pragmatic

judgement from israel . we've all judgement from israel. we've all or most of all the countries around the world have understood when israel were attacked by hamas from gaza and using gaza as their shield, that there was bound to be a response and justified response from israel. but everything comes to an end in politics. you can take initiatives which have repercussions , but there comes a repercussions, but there comes a point , and repercussions, but there comes a point, and we're very close to it, where it is damaging the rest of the international diplomacy that israel are still in gaza . in gaza. >> well, lord owen, thank you so much for your insight , really, much for your insight, really, on this whole situation . and it on this whole situation. and it seems like it's a very worrying time at the moment in the middle east. >> sure. is >> sure. is >> thank you, lord owen. we'll be talking very shortly about how these airstrikes, how what is happening in the red sea impacts the future of the

british economy. how does it affect us? stay with us on. good afternoon, britain. on

monday to thursdays from 6:00 till 930. >> good afternoon britain. >> good afternoon britain. >> it's 2:27 and military action on the iran backed houthis comes after numerous attempts at

attacks to cargo ships travelling through the red sea, a key international shipping lane. >> president biden says the action will protect the free flow of international commerce , flow of international commerce, but the houthis pledged to continue knew their attacks on ships in the red sea in support of what they say is gaza . of what they say is gaza. >> well, gb news economics and business editor liam halligan joins us now with on the money . joins us now with on the money. liam, we often talk about the suez canal , about the trade suez canal, about the trade route there, but the fact of it is , is a huge proportion of our is, is a huge proportion of our trade comes through this route . trade comes through this route. and if it can't go through this route , the journey time for that route, the journey time for that those goods into pieces, a huge by a huge degree . by a huge degree. >> that's right. tom there are two major global shipping pinch points that are currently under threat. as you say, the entrance into the red sea, which leads to

the suez canal. that's the route between the middle east and the mediterranean and european markets. that's a route for around 10% of the world's oil shipments flowing every single day. but then the other side of the arabian peninsula, about 1500km away, is a much an even more important pinch point. it's called the straits of hormuz, which takes you into and out of the persian gulf and the straits of given that, that of hormuz. given that, that gives access the likes of gives you access to the likes of kuwait and qatar, that is the, uh, route of 25% compared to 10% in the suez canal, 25% of the world's global oil flows. and that's why the fact that both these pinch points are now under threat is spooking global energy markets for quite a few weeks since mid september, we've had , since mid september, we've had, uh, iran, iranian backed houthis from yemen, shia muslims from yemen who have attacked shipping

in the mouth of the red sea, going to the suez canal using drones. that's been going on for a while. but yesterday, of course, we had a real major escalation in with in the straits of hormuz . uh, a us, uh, straits of hormuz. uh, a us, uh, backed oil tanker bound for turkey being hijacked by iranian military forces and then taken back to iran. so both these things are now in play. it's interesting. tom actually , oil interesting. tom actually, oil has spiked up. it's gone up by about 4% today. it's around $80 about 4% today. it's around $80 a barrel now, up from $70 a barrel before christmas. but it hasn't spiked more even though a lot of people thought it would. i think what's happening is that the saudis, the world's pivotal oil exporter, is pumping more oil exporter, is pumping more oil onto global markets , trying oil onto global markets, trying to keep things calm and also america is issuing hints that it's releasing oil from its strategic petroleum reserves. look, because of all this geopolitical tension , we will

geopolitical tension, we will see a rise in the price of petrol and diesel over the coming days. as sure as eggs is eggs. but so far there hasn't been a big spike in oil prices. thatis been a big spike in oil prices. that is enough to derail the sort of broader narrative that inflation is coming down. interest rates are coming down, and the global economy, and particular for our purposes, the uk economy is getting better. so for now , there's concern about for now, there's concern about rising energy prices. but they're pretty moderate rises so far . far. >> and when it comes to other other goods that we buy, liam, companies that have already been affected include next, bmw, ikea, nestle and i think is it tesla's plant in germany that's had to shut down temporarily . had to shut down temporarily. >> look, when you when you go through the suez canal , it's through the suez canal, it's a huge trade route, not so much for oil as as i've explained, the straits of hormuz are more important for oil. but the suez canalis important for oil. but the suez canal is huge when it comes to

importing into european markets , importing into european markets, components and finished goods . components and finished goods. you know, car batteries in particular in the case of tesla, many of which are made in china from asia in general through to europe, because the alternative to going through the suez canal, the the suez canal was the reason the suez canal was built in the 1860s, believe it or not, by a frenchman called lesseps, but that's another story. the alternative is story. is the alternative is that you have to go all the way around the massive continent of africa, round the cape of good hope. it adds at least a week to ten days to any shipping freights, container ships, journey time, more time, more fuel, more staff costs , more fuel, more staff costs, more insurance costs and of course, that goes straight into the pnces that goes straight into the prices that firms and indeed consumers pay in the shops for goods. consumers pay in the shops for goods . so it's really important goods. so it's really important to note that these two crucial shipping points, uh , these two shipping points, uh, these two crucial pinch points in global trade , are now being threatened . trade, are now being threatened. and it's such a shame in some

sense , because the british sense, because the british economy was looking pretty good. ihave economy was looking pretty good. i have to say. you know, this is a friday. i came in today this morning to talk about the gdp numbers. we've barely spoken about them because of course , about them because of course, we've rightly been monitoring what's happening in the red what's been happening in the red sea and indeed in the persian gulf. but let's just have a look at these gdp numbers now. so gdp is the sum total of goods and services in the uk economy and gdp. we learned from the office for national statistics this morning. contracted morning. whereas it contracted o.3% morning. whereas it contracted 0.3% month on month in october. in november it bounced back 0.3. so overall pretty flat . we had so overall pretty flat. we had strong retail sales in november, not least because of black friday. the run up to christmas. we know quite a few people were maxing out credit cards maxing out their credit cards remortgaging their homes, but that real sign of that was a real sign of returning consumer confidence, not least because there's the prospect of interest rates coming down. and indeed, mortgage been coming mortgage rates have been coming down. then we had weaker

down. but then we had weaker manufacturing and particularly weak construction sector in november. but overall , the november. but overall, the british economy has been doing pretty well. and that's why this is this these this latest geopolitical angst is as such, political significance because i know the tories have been wanting to wait for an election allowing the feel good factor to come through, allowing the economy to improve in the second half of next year. but be in no doubt if we do get this energy price spike. if inflation does bounce back and bite us again, if this narrative of falling interest rates is reversed, then politically all bets are off. >> okay, liam halligan, thanks so much for your analysis. invaluable. as always. let's get your headlines now with sam . your headlines now with sam. >> tom, pip, thank you very much. good afternoon. from the gb news room. the time is just

after a half past two. well our top story this hour. new figures out today show no migrants have crossed the english channel for 26 days. that's the longest gap in small boat crossings for five years. arrivals have not been recorded since the 16th of december, according to the home office. with poor weather conditions potentially contributing that lack of contributing to that lack of activity at sea . that's longer activity at sea. that's longer than the 25 consecutive days without any crossings that was recorded between february . and recorded between february. and march of 2020, and we're just heanng march of 2020, and we're just hearing that the government of yemen has said that houthis do bear the responsibility for dragging the country into the latest military confrontation . latest military confrontation. that's after joint strikes overnight that were in response to attacks on ships in the red sea . it comes as thousands of sea. it comes as thousands of yemenis have taken to the streets of the capital, sana'a , streets of the capital, sana'a, protesting solidarity with protesting in solidarity with gaza. the government in the uk, though, says that the attacks overnight that were lawful and proportionate. a spokesman for the militant group says that

they will continue to block the passage meanwhile more passage of ships. meanwhile more than 2000 ships have been forced to divert thousands of miles and at least four oil tankers. we understand , have changed their understand, have changed their course from the sea since course from the red sea since those strikes. one of the ships, we understand is carrying 2 million barrels of oil . million barrels of oil. meanwhile, the prime minister has now signed the documents confirming £2.5 billion of military aid to ukraine in the coming year. it's britain's largest annual commitment since russia's invasion in rishi sunak made the announcement during a surprise visit to kyiv with the package including long—range missiles , air defence and missiles, air defence and artillery shells . mr sunak says artillery shells. mr sunak says britain will continue to stand with for ukraine as long as it takes, to and support all ukrainians that won't falter. and finally, bbc radio one's first ever female dj, annie nightingale, has died at the age of 83. nightingale was also the station's longest serving host

after joining the broadcaster in 1970. she remained the only woman on the line up for 12 years. her family say she died at home after a short illness and they've paid tribute to her, saying she was a pioneer, a trailblazer and an inspiration to many and you can get more on all of those stories and many more by visiting our website, gbnews.com .

>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . news is. >> hello and welcome back . now >> hello and welcome back. now is this a waste ? a waste of is this a waste? a waste of money, walter forest council has splashed out on a high tech toilets in the town hall, and the controversial part here is this comes just a month after the labour council announced they will be increasing council tax to tackle a budget gap. is this really what they should be spending taxpayers money on? >> well, joining us now is the leader of waltham forest conservatives, emma best and emma. this seems like an extraordinary story. there was a budget gap. and to fix that budget gap. and to fix that budget gap, taxes have gone up. meanwhile a huge amount of taxpayer cash is being splashed on amenities for that very council . council. >> yeah. and just to say i think

it signifies that the way in which the leadership just don't really care what residents think and what residents need. i mean, yes, we're not talking about toilets that probably cost millions pounds, it's millions of pounds, but it's what signifies in what the what it signifies in what the leadership are to cut and leadership are ready to cut and what ready to save on. what they're ready to save on. and clearly they're not ready to cut comfort on toilet cut their comfort on toilet breaks. and i just want to make the point that these toilets are not public toilets. these are something that you need an access on access card to. there on the chamber floor town hall. chamber floor in the town hall. and i went into them and discovered them after coming out of committee meeting, hearing of a committee meeting, hearing about, how bad things about, you know, how bad things were and we would have no were for us and we would have no opfion were for us and we would have no option but to raise council tax for residents just to see these toilets. and i thought if anybody else is at home struggling with going to the shops their energy bills shops with their energy bills and see that this council and they see that this council is telling them they're going to have to pay more money next yean have to pay more money next year, we're going to have year, but we're going to have heated they're heated toilet seats. they're going to lose minds. um, going to lose their minds. um, i mean, don't get me wrong, was mean, don't get me wrong, it was quite treat. and i think it's quite a treat. and i think it's a bit tech, but

a lovely bit of tech, but i don't think it's appropriate in this situation. ian. >> so yeah, heated toilet seats. what else is high tech about them? uh, i daren't touch them? emma uh, i daren't touch any of the buttons. >> i was scared i was going to get shot with something. so, um, i did actually try and touch some stuff, and water started shooting, so i ran very shooting, so i ran away very quickly. um, but but it was it's. i think it does, uh, i think it will dry you. um, there's a lot of options there for people to have a have a go at. and when i say people, um, a very select few people because you have to have be able to access this floor of the town hall, but i mean, this is a labour council that has formed for right? paid tens for this, right? we've paid tens of thousands for bicycle ballets . uh, you know, i love a good drag show, paid £70,000 drag show, but we paid £70,000 for drag show, and waltham for a drag show, and waltham forest. is not a town forest. uh, this is not a town council that knows how to manage its budget very well. and prioritise for its. >> do you know, do you know, emma, just exactly how scutti the toilets were, were before ?

the toilets were, were before? or have we got an idea of what state they were in? >> i mean, they were, they were nice toilets as far as i was aware. i mean, i mean, apparently they weren't hot enough, but they were. they were fine. as fine as i saw it. um, look, i think there's an argument around, um, these high tech toilets and helping accessibility . but i just want accessibility. but i just want to make clear that these were not in an accessible toilet, so they weren't going to be, uh, if you if you did need that to help you if you did need that to help you have independence out and about , you weren't you have independence out and about, you weren't going to be able to use these toilets anyway. so that's not in question. um, these are just your ordinary toilets, which are mainly used by senior officers and councillors and really, i think that, know, money think that, you know, the money on the spend, the on the on the spend, the money on the maintenance, the money on the upkeep question, but upkeep is, is a question, but really that it really it's the message that it sends, the message that it sends when people struggling and when people are struggling and we're want we're saying we want to prioritise heating when we're saying we want to pri(go se heating when we're saying we want to pri(go to heating when we're saying we want to pri(go to the ting when we're saying we want to pri(go to the loo. when we go to the loo. >> um, well, some might say it's a flushing. taxpayers uh, a flushing. taxpayers cash, uh, down drain . but

a flushing. taxpayers cash, uh, down drain. but emma a flushing. taxpayers cash, uh, down drain . but emma best, down the drain. but emma best, thank you so much for joining down the drain. but emma best, thank you so much forjoining us and talking through and talking us through that. quite bizarre story . quite bizarre story. >> what do you guys think? do you like a toilet that heats your bum? >> you know what i think they should done? because what should have done? because what there distinct lack of there is a distinct lack of across is public across the country is public toilets. like how often are toilets. yes. like how often are you sneaking into a pret a manger trying use the manger and trying to use the loo? so they put these loos loo? so if they put these loos and then charged you like a pound to go into them public toilets could been a good toilets could have been a good way some cash for the council. >> why do we need toilets with buttons lights buttons and flashing lights and heating water everything? >> it's really good to just do one thing, hasn't sort of one thing, hasn't it? sort of flush and do the job. but you've got to wonder sitting got to wonder who's sitting there pecking this thing. and were they sitting on the toilet when they were specifying what they this toilet to do? they want? this toilet to do? yeah, it's example of yeah, i know it's an example of where's moral compass here? where's the moral compass here? you know, because on serious you know, because on a serious point, a lot point, it has cost a lot of money. these toilets are expensive. somebody's got be expensive. somebody's got to be thinking, we're spending all this toilets. why this money on these toilets. why are doing this money on these toilets. why are so doing this money on these toilets. why are so sitting there on their >> so sitting there on their high throne, thinking high tech throne, thinking there's this big budget gap in

our how our council, how on earth, how on we going to fill on earth are we going to fill this budget gap? oh, i know we'll raise taxes, not stop spending frivolous things. spending on frivolous things. >> introduce you. >> we should just introduce you. i'm sorry. very rude, very i'm so sorry. very rude, very rude author rude of me. author and broadcaster nicole broadcaster amy nicole turner and conservative peer and former adviser to boris johnson, kulveer was just too kulveer ranger. i was just too interested about interested in finding out about your tech toilets. your view on high tech toilets. to honest, i've never really to be honest, i've never really heard of like that, though heard of one like that, though to i thought they to be honest, i thought they only existed in tokyo as far as i've seen one, they're. >> yeah, they're quite technological and lots of buttons. you get confused. i don't get confused when don't want to get confused when i go to the toilet. >> too many buttons. anyway, um, shall we move on to something a little bit more substantial? because of course, last night saw uk, us, us air saw a joint uk, us, us air operation, the raf, alongside the force, uh, against 16 the us air force, uh, against 16 separate yemen . uh, separate targets in yemen. uh, i'll throw that to you. cover >> yeah. look, it's obviously a critical operation of not just the us and uk. we do know that there's many countries involved. this operation that's been put together since december , looking together since december, looking at challenges of the trade

at the challenges of the trade routes. um supply going through there, british shipping, other international shipping being attacked by these houthi rebels. and the question is how? how do we protect trade? so this is a this is a question because we all know that the economies of the west are hugely vulnerable at the moment. we've seen what's happened post covid. we've had a challenge, um, post ukraine, obviously, there's been a huge impact on the economies on the west because of the energy suppues west because of the energy supplies and various other things. and now we're starting to another opening up, to see another front opening up, which is aligned, obviously with to see another front opening up, whit israel—gaza , obviously with to see another front opening up, whinsrael—gaza conflict sly with to see another front opening up, whinsrael—gaza conflict here, th the israel—gaza conflict here, there and the west of a coalition of 11 countries so far are are looking at this and saying we can't allow this to damage economically the trade routes. so action has been taken . my one inclination, though, is that there's probably a bit more to the timing of this than we may publicly be aware at may publicly be aware of at the moment, because this action has has come about quite quickly , has come about quite quickly, relatively speaking, at and maybe there were some concerns.

obviously there have been channels and discussions through the look, the houthi rebels about, look, stop kind of stop stop this kind of action, stop the pirating of these ships , the pirating of these ships, stop attacking, stop taking the crews hostage. they haven't they've said they're going to continue to do it. but there's been some very quick response from the uk and us. >> i think there's been criticism the that it criticism of the fact that it didn't go through parliament, but the airstrikes last but but the airstrikes last night, important night, it's important to say that, precise that, um, really precise military operation. so i think there's been no civilian deaths and i've seen criticism levelled saying, oh, well, we mustn't go and interfere in the middle east. look where that's got us before. but this is a completely different situation because this tiny shipping lane, it's vital for all commercial operations so that they can go straight down, otherwise go all the way around. so that will have massive domestic implications on prices of everything from food to we mentioned . earlier, oil. so it mentioned. earlier, oil. so it was important that we dealt with this quickly or it could have

had some. yeah >> but how how quickly is it going to take with going to take to deal with that's the the question that's the that's the question that's the that's the question that not sure we have the that i'm not sure we have the answer you know, lord answer to yet. you know, lord cameron's been speaking and he's the secretary saying the foreign secretary is saying that not ruling out that they're not ruling out further here. that they're not ruling out fur1 unfortunately. here. that they're not ruling out fur1unfortunately.i here. that they're not ruling out fur1unfortunately. i thinkre. that they're not ruling out fur1unfortunately. i think you're >> unfortunately. i think you're right. and right. this isn't a fire and forget situation . you know, i forget situation. you know, i think the coalition has now become involved, engaged . uh, become involved, engaged. uh, military action has happened . military action has happened. uh, the houthis have said that they'll respond in kind . so we they'll respond in kind. so we await what their response will be. i think part of me is concerned about the return of terror attacks. you know , this terror attacks. you know, this isn't just something that's over there. it's something that very quickly can come over here. and i think we'll all be concerned when these kinds of things happen about what rogue groups like the houthis can do . so this like the houthis can do. so this looks like the beginning rather than the end of this situation. >> it's worth dwelling on just how rogue a group the houthis are. they don't have many friends in the middle east. iran aside, their slogan that is

written on the banners that are held up by people all god is the greatest. death to america. death to israel, curse the jews , death to israel, curse the jews, victory to islam . victory to islam. >> um, i think the problem is they do have links to the muslim brotherhood wing in um with hamas. however i think their message taps into that feeling that, ah, arab lives as valued as western lives, and that reflects in what's going on in gaza. so, rick ali, any protest, any protestation now i think is, is less to do with this situation in the red sea and more to do with what's going on in gaza and what's what happened last night , i in gaza and what's what happened last night, i don't think can be avoided , but it does risk avoided, but it does risk inflaming . but that's not to say inflaming. but that's not to say that it wasn't seen as a last resort. and they diplomacy was tried all the way through and denied, denied. i think denied, denied, denied. i think it's raised this this moral question , even among some people question, even among some people that are saying, well, hang on a minute, we can do these, these airstrikes like we have

overnight. >> but yet we can't do any more to stop the suffering in gaza . to stop the suffering in gaza. >> it's a really interesting and challenging ethical question , challenging ethical question, because i've highlighted that this is an economic tactical assault that we've done because there's a huge economic responsibility and challenge what's happening in gaza. you know , we israel has been know, we israel has been defending itself against, obviously, the terror attack that it experienced . well, that that it experienced. well, that that it experienced. well, that thatis that it experienced. well, that that is what it's been saying . that is what it's been saying. it's doing. >> i mean, there's defence and then there's offence. >> debate that we >> and that's the debate that we can have around, you know, can now have around, you know, proportional response. but the challenge here the challenge here is this is the international community defending its international international community deferaround; international international community deferaround shipping onal international community deferaround shipping .nal international community deferaround shipping . that is right around shipping. that is a is a conflict between two. well a state and a terrorist organisation . so a difference organisation. so a difference there that the problem we're finding are these different fronts opening up. obviously we've still got the conflict in ukraine. we can't forget about that. prime that. in fact, the prime minister confirming , minister there today confirming, you britain's commitment you know, britain's commitment to have to it, some people have forgotten about that. >> it's gone down the

>> you know, it's gone down the news tell you someone who >> i'll tell you someone who probably and that's probably hasn't. and that's president he's, president putin because he's, he's he's looking this and he's he's looking at this and he's he's looking at this and he's looking he's probably looking strategically the conflict there that actually seemed to be going red really well in terms of support from international coalition until the gaza israel front opened up. and now with the distraction around the red sea , you know, we can see sea, you know, we can see different fronts opening up. this is an international geopolitical issue . the world is geopolitical issue. the world is under, geopolitical issue. the world is under , fortunately, looking under, fortunately, looking quite vulnerable at the moment. if through ideology, through trade. and the bottom line is we can say we'll throw all these things around is but we know this will affect all of us because we're all tied in to a global economy, to global supply chains. these things chains. therefore, these things tie inflation, interest tie into inflation, interest rates and the price of food . so rates and the price of food. so as much as we see these things and a lot of them are horrific , and a lot of them are horrific, they do play a part in our lives . and we've got to be concerned and hopefully our politicians and hopefully our politicians

and international coalitions and the international coalitions make right decisions for the make the right decisions for the long terme as well as the short terme. amy, how worrying is it that the united states seems to have taken its foot off the pedal of ukrainian aid ? pedal of ukrainian aid? >> of course, an election year this year, not just for the uk, but also for the united states. is it important that britain tries to step back into the lead of building international coalitions of support because up until now, america has been providing the lion's share of the of the funding to ukraine. yeah, i think they will continue. >> president biden will continue to support the front in ukraine. i know rishi sunak been the first, in year. first, but in the year. >> but it's but what will >> but it's only but what will donald trump do if he becomes president? >> this this problem. >> this is this is the problem. that's the problem that we've got that lies ahead. because if donald elected, then got that lies ahead. because if donwhole elected, then got that lies ahead. because if donwhole scenario ected, then got that lies ahead. because if donwhole scenario changesen got that lies ahead. because if donwhole scenario changes .n got that lies ahead. because if donwhole scenario changes . and the whole scenario changes. and i think there is a very sensitive currently aiden aid on hold because on the house of representatives controlled by the republicans has blocked biden's latest bill to try and

get some funding across their some big, big question marks. >> and frankly, if you look at how much the uk's provided to ukraine versus how little france has done, that's a big, big gulf. and perhaps some of these european countries need to step up a bit. >> where's the eu in all of this? you know, we have a this state that is meant to be looking at international issues. and this is one of the fundamental we've had fundamental challenges we've had with i'm afraid we're with the eu is i'm afraid we're going to have to leave it there. >> at final few >> we'll look at the final few seconds. but you so much seconds. but thank you so much to lord ranger indeed to amy to lord ranger and indeed to amy nicol that's for nicol turner. that's it for today. uh, you again on today. uh, catch you again on monday . monday. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news i'm alex deakin. the cold theme continues this weekend . most places will this weekend. most places will be dry , but there will be a few be dry, but there will be a few showers around and it's going to turn more wintry across the

north by sunday. that's as a cold weather front approaches that will mix things up. high pressure still by and large in control. here comes that control. but here comes that weather front bringing some wet weather. northern weather. rain over northern parts scotland during this parts of scotland during this evening it pushes southwards , evening as it pushes southwards, it fizzles out a little it kind of fizzles out a little bit staying damp bit, but staying fairly damp across the west coast of scotland and some of that rain getting into south—west scotland , the north coast of northern ireland dawn . further south, ireland by dawn. further south, most places dry fairly cloudy, with some holes the cloud most places dry fairly cloudy, with northeastes the cloud most places dry fairly cloudy, with northeast england.cloud most places dry fairly cloudy, with northeast england. some over northeast england. some pockets of frost are possible and over northern and perhaps also over northern scotland, where we should see some sunny spells on saturday morning . looking fairly cloudy morning. looking fairly cloudy across ireland. across northern ireland. northwest england, wales northwest england, north wales tomorrow little bit light tomorrow a little bit of light rain drizzle, again most rain and drizzle, but again most places a few showers in the places dry. a few showers in the far north of scotland coming in through the afternoon. two a cold feeling day, particularly so maybe just 3 or so in the south, maybe just 3 or 4 degrees for some with 4 degrees for some here and with a of cloud that isn't going a lot of cloud that isn't going to feel too but it feels to feel too clever, but it feels even colder on sunday, especially the north with a especially in the north with a strong brisk wind is strong brisk wind that is bringing into bringing snow showers into

northern scotland. we do a northern scotland. we do have a met office yellow in met office yellow warning in place and ice . that place for snow and ice. that snow start to build in snow could start to build up in some spots further south. a few scattered rain showers, but a bit perhaps in the way of bit more perhaps in the way of sunshine. temperatures up to again 4 to 7 celsius and feeling chilly . chilly. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good afternoon. it's 3 pm. >> good afternoon. it's 3 pm. >> welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk . westminster all across the uk. today we've got an exclusive interview with suella braverman . interview with suella braverman. >> it's a real corker, the former home secretary has warned. >> the prime minister that he'll face another revolt if changes are not made to the rwanda bill. >> we need an effective deterrent. people are coming overin deterrent. people are coming over in their thousands on the small boats. they need to know that if they get here, they will be detained , they will be put on be detained, they will be put on a plane and they will be removed to rwanda . to rwanda. >> and the uk and us have launched missile strikes against houthi rebel groups in yemen. >> as the conflict in the middle east intensifies and rishi sunak has signed a new security pact with ukraine as the uk commits

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