comes to foreign conflicts, but apparently we have barely a penny to rub together when it comes to helping people in this country. i'll be talking to alicia kearns , the chair of the alicia kearns, the chair of the foreign affairs committee, about some and electric some of that, and electric vehicles. do you reckon these things now are just a little bit of hype? hence the rental company has swapped out thousands of electric thousands of their electric cars. it, back to cars. you guessed it, back to petrol diesel ones as well. petrol and diesel ones as well. we've seen a second bus blow up in a matter of days. was it a fad? are we past it? you tell me . and do you reckon we discriminate against the old? is ageism the latest? the last acceptable form of discrimination in this country?

and yes, jubilee tavern is reopen. i got bored of dry january, quite frankly. do you reckon we need to do more to protect our pubs and robbie boro , the rugby legend . i love him, , the rugby legend. i love him, of course, he's a massive campaigner for mnd. he has finally been given a cbe. fantastic news to end the week . fantastic news to end the week. we'll get stuck into all of that. but before we do, let's cross live for tonight's latest news headlines . news headlines. >> michelle, thank you very much and good evening. this is the latest from the gb news room, the uk's maritime organisation is warning vessels to sail with caution after reports of a new attack on a ship south—east of yemen's port of aden. this latest report is the first incident in security warning since the overnight uk, us joint strikes on houthi rebels . the

strikes on houthi rebels. the yemeni government says the rebels are responsible for dragging the country into military confrontation . however, military confrontation. however, a spokesman for the militant group says they'll continue to block the passage of ships in the region. in the uk , the prime the region. in the uk, the prime minister says britain needs to send a strong signal that houthi rebel attacks in the sea are rebel attacks in the red sea are wrong, someone must take wrong, and someone must take responsibility . responsibility. >> aim is very clear it's to >> our aim is very clear it's to de—escalate tensions and to restore stability to the region, and that's why allies over the past few weeks have issued several statements of condemnation of what's happening, calling on the houthis to desist. indeed, just this week we've seen a un security council resolution condemning what's happening and saying that states have a right to self—defence. we have acted in self—defence. it's incumbent now on the houthis to stop carrying out these attacks, putting people's lives at risk in ukraine. >> rishi sunak says he's proud to sign a new agreement with the country to provide £2.5 billion of new military aid. it's britain's largest annual commitment since russia's

invasion. the prime minister made the announcement during a surprise visit to kyiv, with the package including long—range missiles, air defence and artillery shells. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy says the agreement helped secure his country's future . his country's future. >> then today, the history of europe has changed and ukraine and the uk have entered into a new, unprecedented security agreement. >> this is not just a declaration, this is a reality that will come to life thanks to our cooperation, thanks to security guarantees from a prominent global force, the great britain , the former home great britain, the former home secretary says the rwanda bill, set to be debated in the commons next week, doesn't hold water and won't stop the boats. >> speaking exclusively to gb news, her first tv interview since being sacked, suella braverman the government braverman said the government must introduce tougher measures. >> what we want to see, if we want to stop the boats is regular, uh, flights taking off

to rwanda with large numbers of passengers, you know, a token flight with a handful of people on them on it is not going to stop the boats. we need an effective deterrent. people are coming over in their thousands on the small boats. they need to know that if they get here, they will be detained . they will be will be detained. they will be put on a plane and they will be removed to rwanda . removed to rwanda. >> it comes as new home office figures show no migrants have crossed the english channel for 26 days. that's the longest gap in small boat crossings for five years and is likely caused by poor weather conditions as . a poor weather conditions as. a mother and her former partner have been sentenced to life for the murder of her 18 month old son in kent . alfie phillips son in kent. alfie phillips suffered 70 injuries to his body at the hands of his mother, sian hedges , and her ex—boyfriend hedges, and her ex—boyfriend jack benham. in 2020, benham's been jailed for a minimum time of 23 years, while hedges was given a minimum tum of 19 years.

a lawyer acting for the post office has apologised for delays in the disclosure of documents to the inquiry into the horizon it scandal. chris jackson told the inquiry the post office wants to help reveal the truth and facts behind the fault, which led to hundreds of people being wrongfully convicted of theft. former post office minister and current liberal democrats leader sir ed davey says the company lied to everyone. allegations which the firm denies . firm denies. >> it all told me the same thing that the horizon system was working, that there weren't that many sub postmasters involved and it was clearly a conspiracy of lies and what's become clear throughout this , through itv's throughout this, through itv's programme and from others, is that the post office were lying to the sub postmasters, lying to the victims, lying to courts and judges lying to ministers of all parties over two decades. >> those are the top stories on gb news across the uk. on tv , in

gb news across the uk. on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . michelle >> thanks for that, tatiana. i'm michelle dewberry with you until 7:00 tonight alongside me. >> i've got the conservative life peer, daniel moylan , and gb life peer, daniel moylan, and gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson . good commentator nigel nelson. good evening to both of you. good evening to both of you. good evening michelle. you know the drill as well on this program. it's just us. it's it's not just about us. it's very much about you guys at home. your mind home. what's on your mind tonight? vaiews@gbnews.com is how you reach or you can how you reach me. or you can tweet me at gb but of tweet me at gb news. but of course, the story in town course, the main story in town today the that the uk today is the fact that the uk has joined the us in targeting the houthi rebels yemen with the houthi rebels in yemen with airstrikes. let's, uh, i was going to say cross live, but you literally sat next to me. let's turn to, uh , our home and turn to, uh, our home and security editor, mark white. first of all, mark, if you would, and explainer what's gone

on. >> uh, well, these are attacks that have been taking place for months now by the houthi rebels , months now by the houthi rebels, uh, which is rebel organisation in control of much of yemen, backed by iran, receives a lot of financial and military support from iran, as well as intelligence and guidance . it's intelligence and guidance. it's i guess, in terms of operations , i guess, in terms of operations, and they have been attacking, uh, with drones and missiles, uh, with drones and missiles, uh, commercial shipping that they say is linked to israel or heading to israel as part of support for the palestinians in gaza. support for the palestinians in gaza . um, and they have been gaza. um, and they have been repeatedly warned that they cannot continue due to attack commercial shipping around the red sea . they've ignored those red sea. they've ignored those warnings . and in fact, on warnings. and in fact, on tuesday, they launched the biggest single attack on commercial shipping. and indeed ,

commercial shipping. and indeed, british and us warships , british and us warships, launching 21 drones in missiles. the decision was taken then to strike against the infrastructure of the houthi rebels to be able to launch these drone and missile strikes. that's what happened last night with with, uh, what seems to be relatively significant attacks, 60 different targets in 16 locations across yemen linked to the houthi rebels. it's given them a bloody nose. there's no doubt about that. but already the houthis are saying that they're going to retaliate . they're going to retaliate. >> and, i mean, there has been developments since this attack, hasn't there? i bring us to hasn't there? i bring us up to speed that. speed with that. >> just the last >> yeah, just within the last couple word of an couple of hours, word of an incident involving an oil tanker incident involving an oil tanker in the gulf of aden just off yemen , in a 90 nautical mile yemen, in a 90 nautical mile southeast of the port of aden . southeast of the port of aden. that tanker, the master of the tanker , reported a missile tanker, reported a missile launched towards his vessel that splashed down in the sea about 4

or 500m from that tanker. so very close indeed. also report said that he was being followed by by three small craft . uh. by by three small craft. uh. however, they seem to have disappeared and that tanker is now making its way to its next port. and there is an investigation into this incident underway. so the suspicion is, of course , that this is the of course, that this is the first response, really, from the houthi rebels. but the interesting thing and the worrying thing will be what will happenin worrying thing will be what will happen in the hours and days ahead. happen in the hours and days ahead . will it be a much more, ahead. will it be a much more, more significant response as they are threatening in the wake of these attacks? >> last leader, he's basically come out and said, and i shall quote, that america and the uk will realise that their action was the greatest folly in their history . should we be scared? history. should we be scared? >> well, i think one potential consequence of what happened last night with the strikes is that the houthis actually widen their targets, so they say that their targets, so they say that their targets, so they say that

their targets thus far have been ships , however tenuously, that ships, however tenuously, that are linked to israel. they may now see british and us ships or unked now see british and us ships or linked ships or flagged ships as potential targets as well. so yes, there is absolutely the possibility of an escalation, but there's also the possibility that they create a lot of noise . that they create a lot of noise. uh, and a few missiles and drones are launched in in the coming hours and days. but then they take a step back. they realise that actually getting into full scale conflict here is not the best way forward for them . them. >> that's mark wyatt. thank you very much for your time. our home and security editor. thank you for that update. um i'll start with you, lord moylan. do you support this activity ? you support this activity? >> absolutely. i think we've got to clear these to be clear about who these houthi rebels are. they're not the government of yemen. they are not. government of yemen are not. the government of yemen has them for has actually blamed them for causing problem . there causing all this problem. there are of rebels are are a bunch of rebels who are now engaged what we call now engaged in what we call piracy on high seas. that's

piracy on the high seas. that's basically they're doing. i basically what they're doing. i mean, the royal navy has a hundred old tradition, more hundred year old tradition, more than you know, several than a, you know, several hundred years tradition of clearing off the seas. clearing pirates off the seas. and what we're doing. and that's what we're doing. it's police it's essentially a police action. and it's thoroughly justified . um, commercial justified. um, commercial shipping has to be able to travel the world safely . that's travel the world safely. that's an international commitment. we have resolution from the un have a resolution from the un security council only in the last couple of days, effectively approving right of to approving the right of states to protect taking protect themselves by taking this action. it's this sort of action. it's entirely legal. what we're doing and proper. and if and it's very proper. and if they carry on doing what they've been or they widen the been doing or they widen the net, as has been suggested, and we just keep hitting them i >> really? yeah. let's keep going you're right, going. um, you're quite right, sir, they are not the sir, that they are not the houthis are not the official government of yemen. and unless i'm wrong, think the official i'm wrong, i think the official government they have government of yemen, they have to operate from to actually operate from somewhere in saudi arabia because of the civil war with the houthis. are you in favour of the uk's response? >> yes, am, i've got to bear >> yes, i am, i've got to bear in mind we're actually going on the on the back the coattails

the on the back of the coattails of americans on this as of the americans on this as usual. we're sort of we're supporting an action. supporting an american action. um of the targets that um so of the 16 targets that were were hit last overnight . were were hit last overnight. right. we only we only responsible for two of them. so we're playing a fairly minor role in this. this is more a us type of action. but yes, it's right. 20 million barrels of oil goes through the red sea every day . that's a fifth of the day. that's a fifth of the world's supplies. you can't allow the houthis to just pick pick boats off and try and destroy them. >> okay? >> okay? >> it's not just destroying them, if i may say so. the truth is that they don't have to attack commercial shipping to stop it. travel because these ships need to be insured. and once they start taking action, it becomes impossible for them to get insurance. so they'll stop sailing anyway. >> let's look at then the political, um, the mechanics of how this happened. the nigel, because there's some debate and dispute about whether or not this should have gone to some kind of parliamentary debate or vote or something like that. of

course, it didn't . should it course, it didn't. should it have done? >> think so, because you >> i don't think so, because you don't need to anymore. um, that, that when comes down to an that when it comes down to an action like this, it's probably better to take it so you better to just take it so you don't give a lot of warning before you're to do it. before you're going to do it. i think the houthis knew that we were on our way anyway . it was were on our way anyway. it was fairly obvious we were. were fairly obvious we were. we were going to some kind of going to take some kind of military against military action against them. um, need um, but no, you don't need a parliamentary what you do parliamentary vote. what you do needis parliamentary vote. what you do need is to make sure that there's a statement to parliament as possible. parliament as early as possible. that monday. and if a that will be monday. and if a bit late now on monday. >> the way, guys, i mean, >> oh, by the way, guys, i mean, i mean, did at the weekend if i mean, i did at the weekend if mps are en masse wanted something that. something before that. >> what the speaker has said is he recall over he will recall parliament over the weekend what's the the weekend, but what's the point exactly? what is the point? so so it might as well wait till monday and get a statement from the prime minister. but where are you on this one? >> because do you think it is appropriate that actually we can potentially ourselves potentially take ourselves closer another war closer to yet another war without consulting properly?

parliament? well the fact is that legally, under our constitution, it is the power of the government, the executive to take war to, to declare war. >> i mean, we haven't declared war because we're not making war on a state. we're doing a police action against rebels and pirates, but it's the government's responsibility to do it. that's a sort of separation of powers thing. and it's really interesting that most of the people who object to this are desperate, hot on separation powers when it separation of powers when it comes to something like the rwanda parliament can't rwanda bill. oh parliament can't possibly the postmark orders possibly or the postmark orders parliament possibly take parliament can't possibly take over the courts and over from the courts and actually grant the at the actually grant and the at the moment it's something that they don't like. they're saying, no, moment it's something that they dorwante. they're saying, no, moment it's something that they dorwant to they're saying, no, moment it's something that they dorwant to muddleaying, no, moment it's something that they dorwant to muddle theig, no, moment it's something that they dorwant to muddle the separation we want to muddle the separation of powers. parliament to of powers. we want parliament to have approve it the have to approve what it is the government's responsibility. so your so it's your legal standards so it's double standards and hypocrisy . double standards and hypocrisy. the fact is that the government's perfectly entitled under own constitution and under our own constitution and law to take this action. nobody disputes that they've done it . disputes that they've done it. they're to for they're responsible to for parliament it. they will make a

statement to parliament. and if parliament happy, parliament is not happy, parliament is not happy, parliament throw them out . parliament can throw them out. >> are you guys happy at home? margaret says yes, i do support this action by the uk. the houthis warned, they've houthis were warned, but they've continued. uh this will affect all terms of goods all of us in terms of goods coming into the west. mark says, uh, we can't sit back and do nothing about these attacks on shipping shouldn't be shipping, but we shouldn't be doing american command. doing it under american command. we in dependent like we should be in dependent like other non us countries that have been involved. helen uh, says, yes, of course we should have been involved in the red sea, iran and russia trying iran and russia are trying everything via terrorist groups to destroy the west. what do you want us to have no supplies. want for us to have no supplies. this crucial sea route. uh, this is a crucial sea route. uh, dale, our our armed force, our armed services are undermanned. underequipped and underfunded. so if this war widens out, quite frankly , we're not in a position frankly, we're not in a position to respond. we need to think carefully . she says. um i can carefully. she says. um i can tell you now, you really are, uh, split in your views because carol says, i'm livid. i don't

support or condone this attack in any shape or form . um. uh, in any shape or form. um. uh, sue says, where are we getting all this money from to launch all this money from to launch all of these attacks out? we skint. i'll tell you now, after the break, i want to talk to the head of the foreign affairs select committee, alicia cairns, about don't go about this. so don't go anywhere. i also want to you anywhere. i also want to ask you as well, billion for as well, £2.5 billion for ukraine. where do we get all this money from? and separately, let's move from war. electric let's move on from war. electric cars are all of these things just a fad or not? see you

earlier on gb news radio. >> hi there. i'm michelle dewberry tall seven conservative life peer daniel moylan alongside me, as is the gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. let's carry on. um our conversation, shall we, about the uk strike in yemen. i'm joined now by the conservative mp and the chair of the foreign affairs select committee, alicia kearns. good evening to you . uh, alicia, evening to you. uh, alicia, look, this is a global shipping

route. it impacts international trade. why on earth yet again, is it us, the uk, following inches away from america being the first ones to get involved . the first ones to get involved. >> so the uk is one of the foremost maritime nations . we foremost maritime nations. we have one of the best royal navies in the world, and we work in concert with our us allies. the reality is it is a british royal navy warship that was attacked by the houthis. it is one of the worst attack on a british warship in decades. i think it is not only right that we are stepping forward, but we also have the capability and the intelligence to be able to do so. 50. >> so. >> but alicia, this primary and predominantly even according to rishi statement, is rishi sunak's statement, is about global trade. it's not about the global trade. it's not necessarily about the warships. i'll again why i'll ask my question again why do the need to be at the do we feel the need to be at the forefront? let's face it, potentially of uk potentially at the risk of uk citizens in this country to be at the forefront of this military action. >> so there's to one point, the fact that we host the international maritime organisation that is based here in the uk, where we lead on it.

secondly, as i said, we have the maritime capabilities. third, we have intelligence have the intelligence capabilities. have capabilities. fourthly, we have the will. and fifthly, we are a member of the security member of the un security council. i am proud of the fact that the uk is stepping up to do so, because let's be clear, yes, the is it's taking place the impact is it's taking place in the red but the impact in the red sea, but the impact of this maritime space being blocked would blocked up would be felt globally . the has the ability globally. the uk has the ability it has the duty, and i'm proud that we are doing this. it is the right thing to do and we have the capability to do it. >> it's also us here in >> but it's also made us here in this less hasn't this country less safe, hasn't it? >> n it? >> i think we have to be >> so no, i think we have to be really careful about this. so the houthis do have the the houthis do not have the ability to force project into the that we are aware of at the uk that we are aware of at this the iranians. there this time. the iranians. there is a consistent threat here. i think we have to very careful think we have to be very careful about ourselves to about not allowing ourselves to be groups . be cowed by terrorist groups. the reality is, the houthis have continued to cause problem. continued to cause a problem. they attacked a royal navy warship . we have the capability warship. we have the capability to tackle them, and frankly, we have the duty to be able to do so take action.

so and take action. >> and you say the action. i was looking at one of your previous interviews on this. you interviews today on this. you said the action that we said that the action that we take needs to be limited, whereas biden, whereas president biden, he's basically that, yes, basically saying that, yes, we've this action and we we've taken this action and we will continue taking action if it's necessary. so what does that every time the us that mean? every time the us continues striking, we continues striking, are we instantly behind them? no >> so look, this all of this action was a preventive move. it's not punitive. the goal is to re—establish deterrence. we have warned the houthis and they have warned the houthis and they have undertaken 26 attacks since november. we have warned them consistently that there will be action if they do not de—escalate and do not stop. we have seen the opposite. they have seen the opposite. they have hijacked ships, they attack the navy, they are the royal navy, they are escalating. have said that escalating. i have said that i support something that is necessary. and legal necessary. proportion and legal and focussed on the and is focussed on the preventative. so the us of course, will continue to monitor the uk government for now has said that we have completed this operation, have left operation, but they have left the for further action the door open for further action if is required. but what we if it is required. but what we all want to see is that this

will have hopefully knocked out a significant amount the a significant amount of the houthis and we will houthis capability and we will now see significant reduction now see a significant reduction in the types of operations they conduct and the type of terror attacks that they are launching. >> the houthis be >> but the houthis cannot be that bothered. our efforts that bothered. our our efforts can't that bothered. our our efforts cant been that bothered. our our efforts can't been impactful, can't have been that impactful, because there's because already today there's been additional strike. so been an additional strike. so first of all, we don't know what the impact of that strike was. >> don't know if it could >> we don't know if it could have been far more significant. we don't know if we've reduced what their plans were. only those access to the those with access to the intelligence those with access to the inte a igence those with access to the intea surprise that the houthis not a surprise that the houthis would launch some sort of would try to launch some sort of immediate try and immediate response to try and show that they haven't been cowed . it's about the long tum cowed. it's about the long tum seeing what happens over the next few days and the next few weeks, and hopefully we will have had that effect. deterrence will come back into place we will come back into place and we will come back into place and we will freedom of navigation will see freedom of navigation return to protect not only the rights of those businesses and navies are navies and others who are transversing through that space, but protect economy but also to protect our economy and fisk us and to reduce the risk to us from groups. and to reduce the risk to us frorand groups. and to reduce the risk to us frorand when groups. and to reduce the risk to us frorand when you ps. and to reduce the risk to us frorand when you listen to the

>> and when you listen to the houthis why they're doing houthis about why they're doing this, believe that there is this, they believe that there is a committed in a genocide being committed in gaza. share that opinion gaza. do you share that opinion that there is a genocide happening essentially happening in gaza? essentially committed by israel ? committed by israel? >> i don't believe a genocide is taking place. but beyond this, the houthis have no interest in palestine or gaza. we need to be really careful not to allow their narrative that they are, well, charade, really, that well, a charade, really, that they are conducting. they've done . during the done this before. during the arab they pretended arab spring. they pretended to be interested and be interested in democracy and taking part that movement. taking part in that movement. but goal is to sow chaos. but their goal is to sow chaos. their goal is to pursue their own interests , to pursue power. own interests, to pursue power. and, what we were and, for example, what we were seeing potentially seeing was potentially them trying that strait. trying to control that strait. so they tax it, so that they could tax it, perhaps to secure an income or just so that they could hijack ships take the products on ships and take the products on them. are friends them. the houthis are no friends of the palestinians. they have never in their interests. never acted in their interests. they are an apocalyptic terrorist group solely interested in themselves and the destruction israel. interested in themselves and the destruc'my israel. interested in themselves and the destruc'my last;rael. interested in themselves and the destruc'my last question to you. >> uh, my last question to you. um, in this country, we apparently can't afford to pay our doctors more money. we

apparently can't help apparently can't afford to help the in society, but the most needy in society, but yet again, it's been announced today that another £2.5 billion worth of our money is going over to ukraine. something i know that you passionately support. why have we got a bottomless pit for foreign conflicts ? um, for foreign conflicts? um, rather than money to spend here? >> well, let's be very clear. junior doctors have had on average, a 10% pay increase . average, a 10% pay increase. doctors have said teachers have had their highest pay increase on record . no, no, we've never on record. no, no, we've never had more money into the nhs or the education system. there are commitments being made and being delivered on, but you cannot have economic security. we cannot have security at home unless we have that national security in place. ukraine is fighting for all of our freedoms, not just theirs. and if anyone is under the impression that russia was going to stop in ukraine, had we not intervened , they are wrong. intervened, they are wrong. ukraine is fighting for our freedoms. we must prevent russia now or we will feel the impact, not least in our economy , in the not least in our economy, in the way that we already have and are

slowly through again. slowly coming through again. the uk recovery so uk has had the best recovery so far of any g7 country, but we would see far more beyond that . would see far more beyond that. they are fighting for our freedoms . you have have freedoms. you have to have national security to have any sort stability or economic sort of stability or economic security. >> is there a bottomless pit >> and is there a bottomless pit of money then, these kind of things? >> no, of course there's not. you know, we have commitment you know, we have a commitment to going to spend to how much we're going to spend on that's 2.5% on defence. that's around 2.5% of we are supporting our of gdp. we are supporting our allies we but we can allies where we are. but we can either choose to give the either choose to not give the ukrainians what need and to ukrainians what they need and to keep doing we been keep doing what we have been doing, which just enough for doing, which is just enough for them get through the next them to get through the next 3 to 6 months. and will drag to 6 months. and this will drag on and on. or we can give on and on and on. or we can give the ukrainians what they need to win and out russia and win and to drive out russia and to end the conflict that is not only lives a daily only taking lives on a daily basis, causing economic basis, but is causing economic implications for here in the implications for us here in the uk and families who want to uk and for families who want to see end the war and an end see an end to the war and an end to the crisis and the impact it's having on their pockets, is that the end the wall is you. that the end of the wall is you. >> sorry to push on this. it's not any time soon. and

not coming any time soon. and when to the narrative when you listen to the narrative from leaders, we'll from our leaders, it is we'll support you for as long as it takes until the so my takes until the end. so my question again, have we literally bottomless literally got a bottomless pit for if war for however long? if this war continues next decade, continues for the next decade, is uk hands in uk pockets to is it uk hands in uk pockets to fund this? >> yeah, let's be very clear what are contributing. it'll what we are contributing. it'll be costing a lot more if be costing us a lot more if russia was having success with this. are some countries this. there are some countries in who contributing in europe who are contributing 1.6% of their gdp to help prevent this war getting worse. it is not a bottomless pit. it is defence of our allies , it's is defence of our allies, it's defence of the rule of law and order. and let me be very clear on are delivering on on the uk, we are delivering on the commitments that have been asked us. sat at home asked of us. anyone sat at home who works in a private business will going. the government's will be going. the government's found a to pay found almost a 9 to 10% pay increase for junior doctors . i increase for junior doctors. i wish had something like wish i'd had something like that. pay that. they found the highest pay increase for 30 years for teachers. was having teachers. i wish i was having something that . the something like that. the government is delivering at home, is not an home, but defence is not an option. it's nice to have. option. it's not a nice to have. it's not a of money. it's it's not a waste of money. it's what keeps us safe this what keeps us safe in this country and allows us to to

country and allows us to go to work and live those lives in safety. >> alicia kearns, the chair of the foreign affairs select committee, you for your committee, thank you for your time , nigel. certainly feels time, nigel. it certainly feels to there is this to me like there is this bottomless any conflict in bottomless pit. any conflict in the anyone needs, any the land. anyone needs, any money, anything. money, any, anything. quite frankly. into the hands, frankly. then into the hands, into the pockets of the uk taxpayer. we go. >> well, i mean, we're certainly it is our money that we're all paying it is our money that we're all paying for these things, but they do come at a different budgets. um, so , so what is budgets. um, so, so what is going to ukraine and what happened overnight ? going to ukraine and what happened overnight? uh, in the middle east? those are those come off the defence budget. so it's money that wouldn't have gone to the doctors. for instance, or gone to benefits. no i know that. >> but budgets essentially are spreadsheets people spreadsheets that people have ownership pots of money ownership of with pots of money attached. if you've got your attached. so if you've got your budget foreign conflict budget for your foreign conflict , surely is there a , i mean, surely is there a limit this? there's limit. >> it's what we could afford. so for instance, with with ukraine, we've given the 2.5 we've just given the 2.5 billion. that's 200 million more than it has been over the last couple of years. um, there is a

question of affordability. i mean , you you asked there what mean, you you asked there what if the war went on for ten years? i don't think we'd be able to give that kind of money over that, that sort of period. what have done we made what we have done is we made a promise ukraine. we're promise to ukraine. we're fulfilling promise. unlike fulfilling that promise. unlike america , for instance, which is america, for instance, which is still prevaricating saying, or the us congress is over sending a £47 billion that biden promised the ukrainians, um, where are you on this? >> do you support the extra £25 billion for ukraine? >> lord balfe i do, because i think i agree with every word that alicia cairns just said. actually, thought actually, i thought you've expressed well. this is expressed it very well. this is we are defending our own security here, a russia that can just into countries that just walk into countries that are next door to it and take them over as a russia that is a threat to us and we they need to be resisted. so and the threat to us our i mean , to us here our whole i mean, many of us remember when russia actually occupying of actually was occupying most of central europe and that was a real threat to us, an existential threat to us for

years, year after year after yeah years, year after year after year. and we can't allow that sort of thing to happen again. training is really important, but the other thing here is this is billion, i think there's is 2.5 billion, i think there's an element here of demonstrate saying to the americans of trying to shame the americans, in a sense, into the anteing up, can we afford it? we cannot afford britain cannot afford to sustain ukraine to fight this war. it is the americans that are going to have to step up and do this. and that 47 billion, which is much higher than we're contributing, needs to be released by the americans . and released by the americans. and we are doing everything we can to persuade the americans to do that, sure. and this is that, i'm sure. and this is showing them that we are we are out there leading, and they should be following out there leading, and they shoyou be following out there leading, and they shoyou know, owing out there leading, and they shoyou know, there's >> you know, there's just something me just, something that makes me just, like, so uncomfortable at the ease which we kind of, uh, ease in which we kind of, uh, head into wars. the ease in which we try to prolong wars. and someone said to me, the other day, and it stuck in my mind, the sentence, there is no profit in peace. and if people

were not funding all of these different groups and factions and all the rest of it would, would that not be a reason then for everyone to be trying to get around the table and trying to find peace yeah, first of all, find peace? yeah, first of all, whoever said that is wrong . whoever said that is wrong. >> there is profit in peace. we are richer in a world which is at peace, but we will not in war, will not be. some war, we will not be. some companies . there are in companies. there are profits in war, but the economy, as war, but for the economy, as a whole, for people a whole, whole, for people as a whole, peace great deal better. peace is a great deal better. the question is, can you actually secure peace in the current situation through negotiation with russia ? the negotiation with russia? the answer is only if you can trust their commitments. they had a piece agreement with ukraine. they everything was agreed and yet they still went ahead and invaded. yet they still went ahead and invaded . you cannot trust a word invaded. you cannot trust a word that putin says. negotiations with russia now will not bring peace. they will simply bring what might be a temporary ceasefire before russia makes its next move . its next move. >> you see, maybe i'm in a minority of one, and that's all right, because i can handle that. but don't you worry that this constant chucking of money

at foreign wars and conflicts is just prolonging, said foreign wars and conflicts? >> i it depends on the >> i think it depends on the war. question really is war. so the question really is what is the just war and what isn't? not a just war? isn't? so iraq not a just war? um libya, when we when we started bombing there, we had no plan after words, which was an absolute disgrace . having absolute disgrace. having removed a regime , we created removed a regime, we created a vacuum. falklands was a just war. vietnam was an unjust war. this particular action, whether it's a police action or a military action or however you want to describe it, i think at this stage is absolutely just i wouldn't if it extended into , wouldn't if it extended into, um, boots on the ground or anything like that. no indication that it's going to happen. >> um, do you, do you trust that that would be ruled out ? i am that would be ruled out? i am again, a minority of one. i'm just really uncomfortable . the just really uncomfortable. the ease in which this stuff seems to be happening now, because i worry about the situation in the red sea. i get it. uh, yes, i understand it's a critical, uh,

piece of transportation and infrastructure when it comes to many goods. actually because we've put ourselves as a country into a situation where we are so dependent now on goods, etc. from places like china. i mean , from places like china. i mean, most things that we use and consume and all the rest of it. now we've got big made in china labels attached to ourselves. much of the oil that we use and consume now has to come from foreign locations, because heaven if anyone starts heaven forbid, if anyone starts to in this country to drill for oil in this country exclusively for use this exclusively for use in this country, they are. country, well, they still are. >> still drilling our own >> we are still drilling our own oil. well, drilling. we're >> well, we're drilling. we're drilling i would argue it's drilling oil. i would argue it's not exclusive for here, is drilling oil. i would argue it's not it's:lusive for here, is drilling oil. i would argue it's not it's forive for here, is drilling oil. i would argue it's not it's for saleyr here, is drilling oil. i would argue it's not it's for sale on here, is drilling oil. i would argue it's not it's for sale on the ere, is drilling oil. i would argue it's not it's for sale on the global. it? it's for sale on the global. >> some of it, yeah, some of it is. there is a solution of course. i mean the, the one thing i think alicia was wrong about that this has about was the fact that this has got nothing to do with is got nothing to do with what is going gaza, that what the going on in gaza, that what the houthis are saying is if there was a ceasefire, if aid got through, they wouldn't be targeting sea. targeting ships in the red sea. if out to be true, if that turns out to be true, there is a different solution to

this without military action. >> just >> yeah, i just i'm just uncomfortable in the way that nobody to be prioritising. nobody seems to be prioritising. how create peace ? it seems how do we create peace? it seems to be the first reaction often is going to is military might is teetering on the edges of war. and i just don't understand word. >> there is reaction. i mean, i agree with nigel about what you know, iraq and libya and i actually disagree with him about vietnam, which i think was a very justified war. but but i think we are reacting to other people still starting wars here. it was russia who started this war. this is not like iraq is russia who started this war in ukraine. it is the houthis who are undertaking piracy , be on are undertaking piracy, be on the high seas in the in the red sea. and we are reacting to it. we have waited, we have been, we have well, we are a there is a price to pay for being a member of the un security council. you take a global responsibility . take a global responsibility. you are us. >> then we are a permanent member. ships and with their purse and with their, uh, bombs or whatever it why aren't or whatever it is. why aren't

they front? why is it they at the front? why is it all. this is what i. >> well, well, they are in the shape of the americans, and we're assisting the americans. i believe have been some believe there have been some others sent ships. i others who have sent ships. i don't who's what. the don't know who's what. the command control structure. command and control structure. >> french seem have >> the french don't seem to have stepped up to the plate on this one, don't seem one, but the french don't seem to stepped. to have stepped. >> is what i mean. i >> right. this is what i mean. i don't understand why it is taken as and accepted, it's as read and accepted, that it's got to be us. we have to be. >> a reliable ally of the >> we are a reliable ally of the americans. have a policy americans. now. we have a policy in country that's on. in this country that's gone on. should we be? we have gone on, which has gone on for decades, which has gone on for decades, which we going to be which is that we are going to be the americans most reliable ally. that that our ally. and that that is in our interests, because it protects us gives us degree interests, because it protects usyeah, gives us degree interests, because it protects usyeah, people ives us degree interests, because it protects usyeah, people can us degree interests, because it protects usyeah, people can us what'ee of yeah, people can say what they like, the that's true they like, but the that's true too. fact is, we have this too. the fact is, we have this policy has served us very, policy which has served us very, very over the last 50 very well over the last 50 years, you abandon it. you years, and you abandon it. you need to very carefully need to think very carefully what the are. if start what the risks are. if you start abandoning, except it was what what actually dragged us into iraq. >> it was i mean, this was tony blair, doing the wrong thing blair, um, doing the wrong thing for, ostensibly the right

for, uh, ostensibly the right reasons in your world, which is backing the americans. >> agree we should never >> yeah, i agree we should never have backed the americans over iraq, was because iraq, but that was because america doing the wrong iraq, but that was because amerithen. doing the wrong iraq, but that was because amerithen. buting the wrong iraq, but that was because amerithen. but normallyrong iraq, but that was because amerithen. but normally what thing then. but normally what america is doing here is thoroughly justified in terms of international law . un security international law. un security council backing and the protection of commerce on the high seas, which is which is a responsibility for major maritime powers that they've accepted for the last 300 years or more, is to keep the sea lanes open and it's we could walk away from that response ability, but then we might as well walk away from our global role altogether. >> am i literally i accept i'm a minority of one on this panel. am i a minority of one? just more broadly, is there anyone at home that actually agrees with me? yes, sure. we could have played supporting role in the played a supporting role in the situation, red sea. situation, the red sea. i wouldn't knock that. there's many countries that, of many other countries that, of course involved in course have gotten involved in the why weren't we the background. why weren't we one of them? why is it the us and the uk? that's now come under attack from the leader of

the houthi? uh, we are firmly in their line of vision. are you okay with that? get it touched. >> they'd already. they'd already bombed a royal navy ship. >> yes, but that is. yes but thatis >> yes, but that is. yes but that is not the primary justification that rishi sunak gave for launching those strikes. the primary justification, the justification was all around the global shipping situation. it might be. >> but the basic principle is you attack a royal navy ship, you attack a royal navy ship, you get a bloody nose. >> well, there you go. maybe i am completely alone in my thoughts. get in touch and tell me what you think. want to ask me what you think. i want to ask you about ageism. uh, do you think we're prejudice towards you about ageism. uh, do you thinold?'re prejudice towards you about ageism. uh, do you thinold?'re course. e towards you about ageism. uh, do you thinold?'re course. i towards you about ageism. uh, do you thinold?'re course. i wouldn't the old? of course. i wouldn't know. i am indeed only 21. your thoughts? see you in two.

far. earlier on, gb news radio . far. earlier on, gb news radio. >> hi there. >> hi there. >> michelle dewberry with you till seven here on dewbs& co. the conservative life peer daniel moylan, alongside me, as is the gb news senior political

commentator nigel nelson . uh, commentator nigel nelson. uh, peter says michel , commentator nigel nelson. uh, peter says michel, i'm a fan of yours and i usually agree with yours and i usually agree with you 100, but tonight i'm getting so cross with you, he says. for the first time. you are so wrong. your panel is so right. you might not be a minority of one, michel, but anyone who agrees with you on your stance about the red sea, etc. is wrong , he says. in capitals. that's peter. well, that is me told, uh, but i've got to say, uh, chris, you agree with me? sandy you say yes, michel, you raise a very important point. there was a default position on that. if there is any political disagreement and nobody seems to want to negotiate it to avoid war, we rush straight in. dave says, i agree with you on this one. um, and john says, trust your instincts, michel, because you're always right. thanks, dad . uh, right. should england and wales, basically. and northern ireland follow northern ireland in having an old people's commissioner ? i'm asking. i commissioner? i'm asking. i don't know why i looked natural.

my don't know why i looked natural. my i do apologise very much. i do apologise everybody because i'm saying basically should england follow wales and northern ireland to have this old people's commission and then if you're listening, not watching, i naturally instinctively turn to nigel nelson. asking this because nelson. i'm asking this because 1 in 3 people in the uk say that they've experienced age prejudice is ageism. um, because, you know , you can't because, you know, you can't discriminate against anyone in this and age. rightly so, by this day and age. rightly so, by the it does seem that the way. but it does seem that you can still get away with being prejudiced towards people based age. yeah, i think based on age. yeah, and i think covid did that. >> um, and, and people, people felt they were free to speak out , especially those who actually objected to lockdown. so the argument was it tended to be people in their 80s who would, uh, be seriously ill from covid, from who would die from covid. why did the rest of the country then, therefore have to go into lockdown? it's been that kind of argument all the way through , argument all the way through, some of came from boris some of which came from boris johnson. can see from the johnson. we can see from the evidence that was given to the

inquiry. think that that inquiry. so i think that that that actually created some that has actually created some ageism. some language ageism. there's some language around it. think that the, uh , around it. i think that the, uh, the equalities select committee, one examples we, we accuse old people of bed blocking . well, people of bed blocking. well, they don't want to be in a bed bed blocking sound is a pejorative terme. they are trapped in hospital, their bed, you know, if anything, that they are bed trappers . so it's things are bed trappers. so it's things like that. there is a language that people use in a bit of a cavalier fashion. so yes, it is going on, but covid seems to have made it worse. >> do you agree with that, lord moylan? >> no, i don't first of all, i don't agree yet another don't agree with yet another commissioner. we have far too many for many commissioners for particular segments of society. just creating just jobsworths. they don't actually achieve anything. commissioners anything. we have commissioners for victims. have for the victims. we have commissioners young commissioners for young people. we sorts things . we have all sorts of things. let's get rid of these let's get rid of all these commissioners that commissioners and remember that we're not just we're one nation and not just a bunch segmented, particular bunch of segmented, particular interests. that's the first thing. but my own experience of age prejudice is i actually love it. as i get older, i found all sorts of things are happening

that wouldn't didn't happen that that wouldn't didn't happen when young. like what? when i was young. oh. like what? well, of them is i've well, one of them is i've discovered you drop discovered that if you drop something on floor. yeah and something on the floor. yeah and you're certain you don't you're a certain age, you don't have to pick up. you just have to pick it up. oh, you just have to pick it up. oh, you just have to pick it up. oh, you just have to stand for a moment looking a bit confused, and somebody comes and picks up somebody comes and picks it up for you. absolutely . it's for you. it's absolutely. it's absolutely marvellous. the bit i don't like who runs off the bit. i is, is, is the fact i don't like is, is, is the fact that when i was young, my mother would have died of shame we would have died of shame if we as gotten up to as children hadn't gotten up to give up our seat on the bus to an adult and now, of course, all these little, little darlings in their cosseted cotton wool are all ranged up on the seats while the parents stand there like sort of domestic house slaves trying to sure they don't trying to make sure they don't fall over. for sake, fall over. for god's sake, toddlers are designed fall toddlers are designed to fall oven toddlers are designed to fall over. what they're over. that's what they're you know, they learn know, that's how they learn not to over how they get to fall over and how they get balance . would actually balance. so i would actually that's thing that does worry that's the thing that does worry me. there's a lot to be me. but there's a lot to be said. and i've learned in the house of lords where we have a number of really splendid, very sharp they're sharp nonagenarians. so they're over if you can get to

over 90. but if you can get to 90, this is my ambition. if you can with your brains can get to 90 with your brains and bits intact, then it is and your bits intact, then it is absolutely the best time of your life because everyone goes around back saying, around behind your back saying, do she's 90? she's 92, do you know she's 90? she's 92, you isn't she marvellous ? you know, isn't she marvellous? and they all think you're marvellous. wonderful . marvellous. you're wonderful. well, have to make well, you don't have to make any effort like that sort effort at all. i like that sort of ageism. you i'll tell of ageism. you see, i'll tell you one thing, if i may just go on very quickly. one thing i don't think nigel's right. particularly what don't think nigel's right. partgrowny what don't think nigel's right. partgrowny in what don't think nigel's right. partgrowny in country. at has grown up in this country. and it. well precedes covid is that there's a of young that there's a bunch of young people somehow that people who feel somehow that they've robbed by old they've been robbed by old people that that people people and that that old people are treated better because are being treated better because they get the they were able to get on the housing ladder because their housing ladder and because their pensions, state pensions, their their the state pensions, their their the state pension pathetically low. but pension is pathetically low. but nonetheless, the pension is protected and those people are, um, and those young people have used lot of rhetoric against used a lot of rhetoric against older people , which think is older people, which i think is regrettable . regrettable. >> know, i wonder as >> um, you know, i wonder as well , >> um, you know, i wonder as well, perhaps it's not even just an thing, is chivalry dead an age thing, is chivalry dead like you mentioned about? like those you mentioned about? oh, you know, you used to stand

up someone bit older. up if someone was a bit older. give them your seat. not give them your seat. i'm not sure people don't sure if it's that people don't respect older people or if it's just that literally that whole nofion just that literally that whole notion and concept of chivalry is dead . i was notion and concept of chivalry is dead. i was going out of a cafe yesterday . this is etched cafe yesterday. this is etched on my mind. i'm not bitter or anything. i had my i had a pushbike my child's pushbike, a helmet, some envelopes, some stamps, pack of four muffins, stamps, a pack of four muffins, a coffee and my phone. and i tried to open the door. i dropped pretty much everything. do you know how many people rushed to help me? how many? >> zero? yeah zero. >> zero? yeah zero. >> well, first of all, it says you should buy a decent. >> you should buy a decent shopping bag so can put shopping bag so you can put things a bag and it only things in a bag and it only costs £0.10. secondly, of costs £0.10. and secondly, of course, you're not old enough, michel. you're ever young. course, you're not old enough, micwell,'ou're ever young. course, you're not old enough, micwell, the e ever young. course, you're not old enough, micwell, the issue young. course, you're not old enough, micwell, the issue with1g. course, you're not old enough, micwell, the issue with carrier >> well, the issue with carrier bags the rest. i'm too bags and all the rest. i'm too tight. so i've to confess, tight. so i've got to confess, they used to be about £0.05. i swear up to about swear they've gone up to about £0.30 so i make it my £0.30 now, so i make it my mission when i go shopping to stick every single stick items in every single orifice got, rather orifice that i've got, rather than it for a p, i can tell than pay it for a p, i can tell you. anyway, look, you know what

i was dry january, i i was during dry january, i closed ubereats haven. got closed ubereats haven. i've got over feel the need over that now. i feel the need to protect our pubs. thousands of pubs are at risk in this country, not to add country, so i'm not going to add to tavern reopen as i to it. dup tavern reopen as i want to to you about pubs want to talk to you about pubs and i want to talk to you about the legend that rob

hello there. michelle dewberry with you saw seven on dewbs & co. with you saw seven on dewbs& co. daniel moylan, the conservative life peer, still alongside me, as is gb news senior political commentator, nigel nelson. i can confirm that lord moylan didn't practice dropping anything on the floor. um, and i didn't have to get off my chair and pick it up. what a relief. look, dewberry's having closed last week, doing dry week, so i was doing dry january. i only lasted january. i confess i only lasted about minutes so. it's about five minutes or so. it's reopened so cheers reopened again, so cheers everyone , and happy new year. everyone, and a happy new year. >> absolutely happy year! >> absolutely happy new year! >> absolutely happy new year! >> happy new year >> cheers and a happy new year and cheers and a happy new year to you guys at home. um, i

wanted to talk about, in fact, actually someone on twitter. before i get into my next story, someone just really someone on twitter just really made laugh because i was made me laugh because i was saying i so keen on us saying i wasn't so keen on us being the front of the being at the front of the response in yemen, he says. michelle to put this in language, understand michelle to put this in langsea|e, understand michelle to put this in langsea route understand michelle to put this in langsea route throuthnderstand michelle to put this in langsea route through theerstand michelle to put this in langsea route through the red nd the sea route through the red sea same as the m1 and sea is the same as the m1 and all the other motorways to the north. not just it's north. it's not just oil, it's goods from the east and south—east the world. let's south—east of the world. let's see would last if see how long we would last if those were cut off. yes, those routes were cut off. yes, i understand what a global shipping it'sjust shipping route is. it's just that global is key. that the word global is key. it's not uk shipping route, is it's not a uk shipping route, is it? why always at the it? so why are we always at the forefront everything? it forefront of everything? it feels like when it comes to foreign conflicts, i can safely say been say though, i have been massively outvoted by pretty much all of you guys tonight. if i had a pound for every one that told me i was wrong, i'd be retired. i don't think retired. now i don't even think i'd wait till 7:00. i'd leave now. i'd have so money now. i'd have so much money anyway. your local the anyway. look, is your local the tamworth tap, because that is in the national the year for tamworth tap, because that is in the secondil the year for tamworth tap, because that is in the second year the year for tamworth tap, because that is in the second year in the year for tamworth tap, because that is in the second year in athe year for tamworth tap, because that is in the second year in a row. ear for tamworth tap, because that is in the second year in a row. butfor the second year in a row. but pubs, they're on the decline.

thousands of them. nigel nelson are at risk. things like business people spending business rates, people spending not the rest not much money in all the rest of what do we do quickly of it. uh, what do we do quickly ? i want to squeeze ? because i want to squeeze something as well. something else in as well. quickly. we should. >> follow the example >> we should follow the example of wales scotland employ of wales and scotland and employ minimum pricing in minimum alcohol pricing in supermarkets. here so people can't go out and get 14 units. they recommend a weekly allowance, cheaper than than a cup of coffee. >> oh lord moylan, i don't think we should take any action. >> i think people's habits have changed enormously. it used to be the case going back to my youth, where people ate home youth, where people ate at home and they out for and then they went out for dnnksin and then they went out for drinks in the pubs. and that's what pubs serve. they serve dnnks what pubs serve. they serve drinks of pork drinks with a packet of pork scratchings, if you were lucky. what do nowadays, what people do nowadays, pork scratchings. people, scratchings. i know. um people, people do love those warm ones. well, ageism. you see, my teeth can't take pork scratchings anymore. >> w- w— m take your teeth >> never mind. take your teeth out. a suck on a warm. i'm out. have a suck on a warm. i'm scratching it. it'll be a new sensation for you. >> i haven't got to the >> i haven't quite got to the point the teeth. point with the teeth. >> oh, right. okay but the what people now is they all want

people do now is they all want to out and so pubs have to eat out and so pubs have become gastropub bars and so on. >> and now they're stopping because the cost of living crisis. well they go i'm taking one for the team and i'm keeping dewberry tavern open. >> with dry >> who can be bothered with dry january? me. rob january? not me. look, rob burrows, i absolutely love this story. that i respect story. he's a man that i respect massively. he has been massively. finally he has been given cbe . this is him on the given a cbe. this is him on the screen with prince william. him and his friend kevin sinfield. i absolutely love these guys. the work that they do raise work that they do to raise awareness. um of mad is phenomenal . phenomenal. >> yeah, i mean prince surprised them with the cbe . i mean, he them with the cbe. i mean, he could be doing a sort of this is your life for them couldn't they? >> oh, i love it. >> i love it, and i just love, >> i love it, and ijust love, uh, just nice upbeat stories like this, don't you? lord moylan yeah, i know this is fantastic. >> and extremely well deserved. and i think prince william also in his speech him his in his speech to him that his talk speech, but talk wasn't a speech, but the words he, expressed to him words he, um, expressed to him came as tremendously came across as tremendously authentic and serious and a and authentic and serious and a and a very attractive figure as well, thought, and rob burrow ,

well, i thought, and rob burrow, i i mean, i just think is i mean, fantastic . fantastic. >> and technology that >> and the technology that surrounds him because i tell surrounds him because and i tell you, it's one of cruellest, you, it's one of the cruellest, cruellest illnesses that one can get. and i would hope and pray that more funding is going into to this illness to try and help find cures for people who are suffering with this, of course, rob burrow , he uses this kind rob burrow, he uses this kind of. it's when he blinks in. he communicates in that way. it's so incredible. so credit to all of those guys for all of the work that they do. gene has been in touch saying, michelle, can i just you quickly, i love just tell you quickly, i love your dress. it matches my new bag. you've sent me a picture. i haven't seen it. let's have a little look at your oh oh, little look at your bag. oh oh, yes. that. great. this yes. look at that. great. this is does indeed. is jean's bag. it does indeed. it looks like it's been made out of an offcut from my dress. all i can say to you, jean, is you've got an absolute style. i respect you, you. i have say, respect you, you. i have to say, the keeps going on the conversation keeps going on with of you again, pretty with all of you again, pretty much completely with all of you again, pretty much with completely with all of you again, pretty much with me completely with all of you again, pretty much with me pretty)mpletely with all of you again, pretty much with me pretty muchtely with all of you again, pretty much with me pretty much on disagree with me pretty much on a lot of stuff tonight. quite frankly. over it. frankly. i'll get over it. have a good weekend nigel.

a good weekend everyone. nigel. thank lord boylan thank thank you, lord boylan. thank you. have a good you. thanks, guys. have a good one. you monday. a brighter one. see you monday. a brighter outlook boxt solar sponsors outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> evening i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the cold theme continues this weekend. most places staying dry, but there will be a few showers around and those showers will turn to snow in northern scotland on sunday. there's a cold front moving in, ousting this area of high pressure been dominating pressure that's been dominating for the it's still for much of the week. it's still bringing most of us a dry night. got some clearer skies pushing south northeast england south into northeast england that frost south into northeast england that touch frost south into northeast england that touch of frost frost south into northeast england that touch of frost acrosst here. touch of frost across south and southwest south wales and southwest england, damp weather from england, some damp weather from this of that's that this line of rain. that's that cold front pushing south across scotland tending to fizzle scotland but tending to fizzle out does so. clearer skies out as it does so. clearer skies will start . follow behind on will start. follow on behind on to the details then for the weekend , and it's a pretty grey weekend, and it's a pretty grey start in the south. lots of cloud here. cold feeling de damp

and drizzly at times for northern ireland. northwest england and maybe even north wales. seeing a little bit of that light rain come the afternoon showers into northern scotland, but something brighter for central for southern and central scotland. some sunny spells here and well brighten in and it may well brighten up in northern later as northern ireland later on as well. northern ireland later on as wellbe pretty cold in the it'll be pretty cold in the south, 4 or 5 degrees elsewhere. we might sneak up to 6 or 7, but still on the chilly side for the time year. feeling colder in time of year. feeling colder in the sunday as the north on sunday as a strengthening brings more the north on sunday as a strengshowers brings more the north on sunday as a strengshowers into brings more the north on sunday as a strengshowers into northern nore snow showers into northern scotland. few scotland. could see a few centimetres of snow places centimetres of snow in places here. there's a snow and ice warning in place. a few scattered showers across scattered rain showers across england again, england and wales, but again, many will be dry. many places here will be dry. perhaps a bit brighter on sunday, but of seeing sunday, but a chance of seeing some sunny spells but everywhere. feeling chilly i >> -- >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

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