very own traitor to britain. i can't believe it's not butterworth. unfortunately, it is benjamin butterworth . and we is benjamin butterworth. and we have a worthy adversary in the shape of our wonderful guest and gb superstar naughty nan gb news superstar naughty nan akua. and what a treat , by the akua. and what a treat, by the way, to have two ladies on the panel this week. lucky me. now each gets minute or two each pundit gets a minute or two to stand on their soapbox about the the day and after the issue of the day and after that, it's a free for all. we're not just here to talk amongst ourselves, though. we want you, the viewers, for your input, send your thoughts and probably your complaints and emails your complaints and nasty emails to com to gb views at gb news. com let's if you can outdo our let's see if you can outdo our panellists in the opinion stakes. but before we let the dogs out, it's over to tatiana sanchez saturday night . news. >> ben thank you. your top stories from the gb news room. three people have been arrested under the terrorism act, suspected of showing support for a proscribed organisation. they were detained during the pro—palestinian rally, which saw

thousands of people marching through central london calling for a ceasefire in gaza. the police also arrested two people for carrying offensive placards as . yemen's houthi rebels have as. yemen's houthi rebels have promised a strong and effective response following a fresh strike by the united states. the us says it was a follow up to a joint uk mission targeting houthi positions. the west is trying to stop the iranian backed group from attacking ships in the red sea. president joe biden confirmed a private message was delivered to tehran, making it clear the us is well . making it clear the us is well. prepared. a former postmistress who's planning to run against sir davey at the next general election says he must be brought to justice. the lib dems leader was the postal affairs minister dunng was the postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal, but refused to apologise or but has refused to apologise or take any accountability for his inaction. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after faulty software led to shortfalls in subpostmasters accounts . sir ed

subpostmasters accounts. sir ed says he was lied to by the post office on an industrial scale. speaking exclusively . to gb speaking exclusively. to gb news, yvonne tracy says she felt compelled to take a stand. >> i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably there confidence is not and they probably up to death probably are fed up to death with government, etc. so with the government, etc. so i thought going to be me. i'm thought it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel ihave reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have do something and this i have to do something and this is do. i think he is all i can do. i think he should be brought to account . should be brought to account. >> around 150 migrants have been intercepted in the english channel intercepted in the english channel, ending the extended pause in crossings on board three small boats. they're the first to make the treacherous journey since the 16th of december, the longest period without any migrant arrivals for almost four years. it's thought bad weather may have prevented more people from crossing the channel over the past few weeks , channel over the past few weeks, and a league one football match had to be abandoned today after

around 1000 redding home fans invaded the pitch. the start of the game was interrupted for three minutes when tennis balls were thrown onto the pitch. the referee then had to take players off after 16 minutes as home fans took to the field with some letting off flares. many redding supporters want the owner to sell the club, which is currently fourth from the bottom. in the third tier, following sanctions imposed on them by the efl . those are your them by the efl. those are your top stories on gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to you this saturday five. >> it's saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm ben leo, and i can promise that you're in for a very lively houn that you're in for a very lively hour, so let's crack on with tonight's first debate, shall we.7 >> we? >> now then, ben, what have you got for us today?

>> okay, let's get stuck into this new year. same old story. when it comes to the invasion of our southern border. after boasting been our southern border. after bo'small been our southern border. after bo'small boat been our southern border. after bo'small boat crossings been our southern border. after bo'small boat crossings in been our southern border. after bo'small boat crossings in theen no small boat crossings in the channel weeks. channel for four weeks. laughably celebrate it as the longest period in over five years. whoop de doo, rishi sunak longest period in over five yearjames op de doo, rishi sunak longest period in over five yearjames cleverly o, rishi sunak longest period in over five yearjames cleverly convenientlyk and james cleverly conveniently forgot bad weather stops forgot that bad weather stops migrants making journey, and migrants making the journey, and instead they kept up the assumption that, frankly, we're all just well surprise, all just stupid. well surprise, surprise, windy weather surprise, the windy weather calms overnight and today calms down overnight and today we an estimated 150 we have an estimated 150 undocument ed we have an estimated 150 undocumented illegal migrants touching down in treasure island , britain. they'll be whisked off to a hotel and treated to three meals a day, free wi—fi and even a free dentist that many british people find impossible to access. all this, by the way , cost taxpayers an by the way, cost taxpayers an eye—watering £8 million a day. and would you believe it? images coming from the kent coast today show not a flurry of women and children escaping war and persecution, but arrivals of mostly men . mostly single fighting age men. well, let me tell you something . well, let me tell you something. whilst they patronise the

british public with promises and stupid slogans , the only people stupid slogans, the only people lacking logic right now is the sleepwalking conservative government who will lose the election this year if they don't immediately back immediately announce a turn back policy like australia did ten years ago. prime ministers tony abbott and scott morrison intercept two dinghies in the ocean, put migrants on unsinkable lifeboats and either send them to where they send them back to where they came or to offshore came from or to offshore processing sites and you know what happened? the crossing stopped immediately, and abbott won re—election. so, look, forget rwanda, it's finished. stop keir starmer and show you care about britain by declaring the small boats crisis a national security threat and send those back those boats back directly to where they came from . that's my say, benjamin . um, . that's my say, benjamin. um, what do you reckon about that? let's turn these boats back. >> well, the stupidity of your argument, i'll of argument, and i'll sort of narrow it down to just one stupidity. >> that very polite? >> is that very polite? >> is that very polite? >> these back. unless >> turn these boats back. unless you have a deal with france, which exactly what keir which is exactly what keir starmer should have. which is exactly what keir starmer if should have. which is exactly what keir starmer if you're should have. which is exactly what keir starmer if you're notshould have. which is exactly what keir starmer if you're not workingave. because if you're not working with they're not on the

with them, if they're not on the same page as you, then it's no point them back because point turning them back because they'll come straight back they'll just come straight back again. >> well, won't if we've got >> well, they won't if we've got navy the middle of the navy ships in the middle of the of english channel, of the english channel, physically stopping them from from crossing that 12 mile border, what are they going to do? >> good luck lining 12 miles with ships for tiny little with navy ships for tiny little dinghies are. well, why not? >> we we're not? >> w e we'r e ha ppy not? >> we we're happy enough to get involved sea and play involved in the red sea and play world in the gulf of aden world police in the gulf of aden and the suez canal. why can't we protect our own, our own borders? >> so to clarify, saying >> so to clarify, you're saying that should bomb the that the raf should bomb the boats? i mean, what's got to boats? i mean, what's it got to do the red sea? do with the red sea? >> mentioned bombing. >> i never mentioned bombing. >> i never mentioned bombing. >> doing in the >> that's what i'm doing in the red sea. >> you hysterical again? >> you being hysterical again? as hysterical by comparing as as hysterical by comparing the the sea, the channel to the red sea, where terrorists are attacking british and israeli and american. >> well let's be. nothing >> well let's be. it's nothing like >> well let's be. it's nothing uke the >> well let's be. it's nothing like the truth is, you'll like that. the truth is, you'll just ever more just come up with ever more hysterical ideas shoot and hysterical ideas to shoot and attack sorry and attack and be violent. sorry and win when actually the win plaudits when actually the sensible to sit down sensible idea is to sit down with the french and a with the french and have a proper worst ever. proper worst idea ever. >> worst idea ever. the idea that the solution lies with the eu , who is incapable of dealing

eu, who is incapable of dealing with a migrant crisis ipsis itself. that is why the eu is turning to the far right. that is why they are losing control of their borders because they can't cope. the idea we look to them for lessons, guidance and help is ridiculous. what we need to do. in part absolutely . to do. yes, in part absolutely. we turn the boats back safely to france, to the safety of france. is one idea, but it will not stop. ben it will not stop until until sir, until we raise the bar of who gets accepted as an asylum seeker in this country, we accept three times as many as france , twice as many as the france, twice as many as the national eu. we are overgenerous. we provide them with three star hotels. as you said , dentistry, all the stuff said, dentistry, all the stuff it needs to stop of. >> riley, did you see that lad there in the hotel counting out his cash in front of. put them in tents like they do in calais? darren hysterical. benjamin here thinks australia the, thinks that australia is the, uh. possibly uh. it couldn't have possibly have the back. we have turned the boats back. we can't copy them. they did it and

the boats stopped in their tracks. why can't we it? tracks. why can't we do it? >> these >> well, they had these beautiful orange life boats that were they were unsinkable, that they placed and then placed migrants in and then turned sent them to turned them back or sent them to be processed elsewhere. and they never australia. so never made it to australia. so whilst think anyone was whilst i don't think anyone was trying for second trying to suggest for a second that stop throwing that we should stop throwing missiles the english channel, missiles in the english channel, which parts of our which may well hit parts of our own waters. so that own territorial waters. so that would somewhat reckless. but would be somewhat reckless. but i think that there is an obvious no, didn't. no, we didn't. >> so stupid. >> don't be so stupid. >> don't be so stupid. >> what saying was that >> what ben was saying was that actually, we're doing better actually, we're doing a better job sea than we job policing the red sea than we are. english channel. i are. the english channel. and i think that is a perfectly think that that is a perfectly viable because we're viable argument because we're not policing the english channel at all. in fact, we're saying come one, come all to bed, board and benefits in england. naughty nana. >> come on, what have we got? >> come on, what have we got? >> well, i'm going to listen. i got in trouble with gary lineker when i said that you should turn the boats back. i agreed with priti patel's turn back policy and literally to and literally people tried to gouge my eyes out for daring to suggest glad that we suggest it. so i'm glad that we can now calmly not including

you, can calmly you, benji, but we can calmly say turning the boats back say that turning the boats back would good option. the only would be a good option. the only hole your argument that we hole in your argument is that we have huge numbers in mass. leave migration, our migration, and that's our our actual problem. but yeah, i'd say actually if they don't really want to the boats really want to turn the boats back, ships in back, put big cruise ships in there, you not put them on there, do you not put them on there, do you not put them on the ship and then you can the cruise ship and then you can turn back? turn them back? >> you not think if sunak >> do you not think if sunak tomorrow woke up and said, right, going turn these right, we're going to turn these boats back, no more going to come. win the election heartbeat. >> uh, yeah, i think he would. but unfortunately, you know what it the of lords it is? the house of lords will probably ideas his it is? the house of lords will prob mps ideas his it is? the house of lords will prob mps would ideas his it is? the house of lords will prob mps would all ideas his it is? the house of lords will prob mps would all oppose his it is? the house of lords will prob mps would all oppose it. and own mps would all oppose it. and then we'd be in this 2 or 3 thing and nothing would happen. and in the end, the home and then in the end, the home secretary, would secretary, whoever would be fired have the home fired and they'd have the home secretary, number 10, there's absolutely no political will in the to the conservative party to suspend bad suspend or ignore bad international that puts our international law that puts our country at risk. >> they're cowards. they >> they're all cowards. they won't upset the french. they're too scared. want too scared. they want to schmooze with their international pals and drink champagne office champagne at the foreign office while about while talking about the deplorables us. deplorables and laughing at us. >> sorry, belinda, this >> i'm sorry, belinda, this might pass for a good policy in

reform in the real reform uk, but in the real world, how exactly are you going to french comply to get the french to comply with this, just ignore those this, to not just ignore those boats, to go swanning back into our would they want our waters? why would they want to us on this? when to work with us on this? when you treat them like that? >> well, i'd say the have >> well, i'd say the french have recently sent back terrorist criminals against law because criminals against eu law because they've burden criminals against eu law because they'iwhat's burden criminals against eu law because they'iwhat's best burden criminals against eu law because they'iwhat's best for burden criminals against eu law because they'iwhat's best for their den done what's best for their country. can just follow country. so we can just follow their example. secondly i don't think half a billion we've think the half a billion we've given to the french, they've done diddly squat with it. we're literally paying for them to keep the problem going. they've been partying. >> have you seen the french border force partying? >> when the shines and something. >> oh, i was going to say make that point that we've given them half benjamin half £1 billion. and benjamin saying, oh, aren't we treating half £1 billion. and benjamin saymacron aren't we treating half £1 billion. and benjamin saymacron absolutelytreating mr macron absolutely appallingly? you wouldn't appallingly? i bet you wouldn't mind billion. don't mind half £1 billion. i don't think you'd saying that think you'd be saying that gb news treating you news were treating you appallingly you appallingly if they gave you that, you? that, would you? >> you assume haven't had >> do you assume i haven't had half billion? but look. half a billion? but look. no, i'd look better if i had. i'd look a lot better if i had. the fact is that you can't. you know, we might be island, but know, we might be an island, but we can't turn these boats back

without other countries having we can't turn these boats back witagreement. ountries having an agreement. >> precisely because >> it's precisely because we are an island that we can do that. >> we can't because there's >> but we can't because there's nothing that they'd nothing to say that they'd comply doing. nothing to say that they'd com i.y doing. nothing to say that they'd com i think doing. nothing to say that they'd com i think it's doing. nothing to say that they'd com i think it's completelying. and i think it's completely unrealistic. sir keir unrealistic. i think sir keir starmer's plan to say that we take set amount an take a set amount in an agreement with would see agreement with france would see them this situation. them have this situation. >> we don't want any benjamin. we legal or we don't want any legal or illegal so illegal migrants. so keir starmer's to bend over starmer's plan is to bend over and macron how much he and ask mr macron how much he wants the pleasure. wants for the pleasure. >> i'm sorry, but that's deplorable thing to we deplorable thing to say. we we're refugees. we're full refugees. >> britain is full. there's no schools, there's no houses, there's i tell you what >> yeah, but i tell you what a lot of a lot of people who work in in particular weren't in gps, in particular weren't born so, you know, you born here. so, you know, you take migrants, they take the migrants, but they didn't didn't come here on take the migrants, but they diboat, didn't come here on take the migrants, but they diboat, though. ill come here on a boat, though. >> a lot of them didn't come through. >> but i couldn't care less if they're white, american white poles. it's about race. it's poles. it's not about race. it's not i tell what, not about i tell you what, that's wrong because we are full. full to the full. britain is full to the rafters. is rafters. there is no infrastructure. yes, because of the tories. but there's no infrastructure. there's not nothing accommodate infrastructure. there's not nothing don't accommodate infrastructure. there's not nothing don't accorwe)date infrastructure. there's not

nothing don't accorwe don't them. we don't want we don't want illegal boats. we don't want illegal boats. we don't want small boats. we don't want legal unless legal migration either, unless it's of thousands. >> yeah, they need it >> yeah, they need to do it properly. going to do properly. they're going to do legal it legal migration. just do it properly. 700,000 people coming legal migration. just do it prop> start. i think >> okay. feisty start. i think we can conclude from that, that we'll benjamin small we'll send benjamin on a small dinghy channel dinghy over the channel to france. it's france. um, up next, it's belinda. go away. belinda, france. um, up next, it's belind'grindingiy. belinda, france. um, up next, it's belind'grinding yourelinda, france. um, up next, it's belind'grinding your gears week? >> all right, well, the world is becoming dangerous becoming more dangerous as the west divided and

west looks divided and weak, and those are rubbing those hostile to us are rubbing their hands with glee. it is time arm britain, arm up their hands with glee. it is tinthe arm britain, arm up their hands with glee. it is tinthe hilt.1 britain, arm up their hands with glee. it is tinthe hilt. bring in, arm up their hands with glee. it is tinthe hilt. bring backm up their hands with glee. it is tinthe hilt. bring back a up their hands with glee. it is tinthe hilt. bring back a form to the hilt. bring back a form of national service, teach loyalty, allegiance, national unity out the unity in schools, strip out the poisonous that is . poisonous woke culture that is. a emasculating our military in, invest in and expand our armed forces and make them once again feared and respected around the world. it is the least our government owes this country and our brave servicemen and women. and yet our government is forever cutting, slashing, stripping forces down stripping our armed forces down while infecting it with woke nonsense. it any nonsense. hence, is it any wonder they are facing a staffing crisis? uk aircraft carriers even be used at carriers can't even be used at the moment because of staffing issues. yes recruitment to the royal navy and royal marines is down 22. couple this with defence secretary grant shapps voicing his concerns that the make up of the military was not diverse enough and did not reflect wider societal . see. our reflect wider societal. see. our leaders are making us look weak

to our enemies. i don't want our armed forces to reflect wider society. i want it to reflect the best of the best. the who dares wins. rambo's at the peak of human physical fitness, bravery and quick thinking. the government needs promote this government needs to promote this . and instead of funnelling billions out of country to billions out of the country to other causes, we must now invest and uk's defence in this and boost uk's defence in this ever fractious world. our country depends . on it. country depends. on it. >> amen. tinder >> amen. tinder >> yeah, i feel so strongly, especially at a time where opening our borders to the world's conflicts and rivalries at a time we've got so much . um, at a time we've got so much. um, the terrorist threat has gone up. we've got. the issue in the red sea at the moment. it is frightening that since 2010, the conservative government has stripped our defence of billions and now grant shapps is concerned that, you know, diversity is an issue , as you diversity is an issue, as you said, this situation in the red sea right now, we've got two aircraft carriers stuck in portsmouth because we haven't aircraft carriers stuck in porienough because we haven't aircraft carriers stuck in porienough f—351se we haven't aircraft carriers stuck in porienough f—35 jetsve haven't aircraft carriers stuck in porienough f—35 jets to, 1aven't

aircraft carriers stuck in porienough f—35 jets to, to,en't aircraft carriers stuck in porienough f—35 jets to, to, tot got enough f—35 jets to, to, to equip them with. >> got eight jets on hms >> we've got eight jets on hms queen elizabeth when we should have something about 35, and yet we're red sea we're steaming into the red sea as be, by the way, as we should be, by the way, quite rightly, the coattails quite rightly, on the coattails of are ill equipped of america. we are ill equipped to ourselves . and it's to defend ourselves. and it's a national embarrassment that we've got , for example, the raf we've got, for example, the raf focus on wokery and whakaari as our man, darren darren would say here they had to apologise last year for excluding white pilots from recruitment, 160. >> discriminated against >> the raf discriminated against 160 white candidates and in fact the woman in charge quit because she was so upset about the discrimination against white people in the raf. what a disgust ing thing to do to our ancestors memories when our graveyards are packed full of white men who've served our country. >> if our armed services, armed services don't look like the country, then we have to ask ourselves why. it's probably because they're places where misogyny and sexism is rife , misogyny and sexism is rife, where racism is a problem. we

know been an issue in know that's been an issue in things like nothing else. >> a load of i think you're catastrophizing it . catastrophizing it. >> i don't look the problem. >> i don't look the problem. >> we have only a months >> we have only a few months ago, a report from the red arrows, a part of the raf arrows, a part of the of the raf found had widespread found that it had widespread sexism misogyny sexism and misogyny that was putting female pilots off, joining and some of them were leaving because of that. >> they right tackle >> they right to tackle those problems have problems because we have a recruitment armed recruitment problem in our armed forces. young people forces. not so many young people want to do it. so we should reach out to other groups that aren't blokes look aren't white blokes that look like listen, the aren't white blokes that look likelisten, the problem aren't white blokes that look like listen, the problem we aren't white blokes that look likelisten, the problem we have >> listen, the problem we have with armed is not with the armed forces is not just because of, you know, the recruitment the just because of, you know, the recr|that3nt the just because of, you know, the recr|that we the just because of, you know, the recr|that we continuously do fact that we continuously do britain and who would be britain down. and who would be proud this proud and want to represent this country. every time proud and want to represent this coursay every time proud and want to represent this coursay you're every time proud and want to represent this coursay you're proud every time proud and want to represent this coursay you're proud to ary time proud and want to represent this coursay you're proud to be time you say you're proud to be british. at one point, the flag was allowed. if that was not allowed. if you say that you're british you're proud you're british and you're proud of you're told you're of it, you're told you're a racist. would anybody racist. why would anybody want to the armed forces? to be part of the armed forces? and that's the misogyny and all the other stuff. in the other stuff. it's in everything force. everything the police force. it's single. it's okay. it's in every single. it's okay. no, saying it's not no, but i'm saying that it's not particularly unique particularly that's not a unique characteristic forces. >> t- t— f—

>> you're not going to live in the perfect woke world where the perfect pc woke world where there's you know , a there's no, no, you know, a small bunch. >> might care about >> you might not care about bigotry because you're not. >> you might not care about big�*theyecause you're not. >> you might not care about big�*they didn'te you're not. >> you might not care about big�*they didn't care 're not. >> you might not care about big�*they didn't care about. >> you might not care about big�*they didn't care about it. >> they didn't care about it. >> they didn't care about it. >> what seem call >> they didn't care about it. >.white what seem call >> they didn't care about it. >.white working seem call >> they didn't care about it. >.white working classzem call >> they didn't care about it. >.white working class kids call >> they didn't care about it. >.white working class kids in call a white working class kids in this country are some of the most underprivileged people going isn't going in the uk. darren, isn't it to brave it a disservice to our brave servicemen women are servicemen and women that are are they ill equipped in are they are so ill equipped in such embarrassing fashion ? such an embarrassing fashion? >> it absolutely is. you know, i'm always in when we have these discussions reminded of my grandfather's trip abroad, grandfather's only trip abroad, and was to serve in the and that was to serve in the korean much korean war. and i very much doubt that the armed forces back then was concerned that it didn't quite look like a dove sodding advert. know, one of sodding advert. you know, one of those telly adverts where there's more diverse city than a benjamin butterworth, iran and putin laughing at us. putin must be laughing at us. >> they are, it's absurd. >> oh, they are, it's absurd. >> oh, they are, it's absurd. >> and i just do think that we've if we look at the fundamentals of potential decommissioning two ships within the because we the royal navy because we haven't the personnel to haven't got the personnel to staff it, and then benjamin butterworth turning around, your argument doesn't make sense. driving want driving women away. i don't want the i don't want the armed

forces to be 51% women. >> thank you very much. women can excellent soldiers, can make excellent soldiers, unbelievable warriors , but not unbelievable warriors, but not many of them can compete with the best of the best men, nor want to. thank you very much. so the idea that i need female representation to feel this country is taking care of is absolutely also absolutely rubbish, and also success. bassists sack races, get rid of them. you don't have to discriminate against white men. >> it's a culture when you >> it's a culture that when you have dominated by have organisations dominated by heterosexual white men, that happens, thank god. and you talk about these strong white men, i love you. >> thank you for your service and please fighting for our and please keep fighting for our country. you. do not country. i love you. do not listen rubbish. keep listen to this rubbish. keep being might be a suck being alpha. you might be a suck up to bigoted but won't up to bigoted men, but i won't be fact is, when you be because the fact is, when you talk she's called talk about she's not called queen gammon for nothing. >> about >> when you talk about decommissioned ships, the lack of into of people wanting to go into that work is because , that line of work is because, you know, people don't want to carry erg you make it more welcoming. if you encourage women, other minority groups to feel safe, to feel prosperous in that environment. but maybe those ships wouldn't be

decommissioned people. we're an embarrassment. lord >> we're an embarrassment to the rest of the world. can rest of the world. you can imagine putin must be laughing. the fact we couldn't the fact that we couldn't even staff own ships come and staff our own ships to come and fight war, or to get involved fight a war, or to get involved in this a good in conflict. this is not a good look for us, this country. we need. you up look for us, this country. we n thing wanted, >> the first thing i wanted, i wanted to join the navy when i was 16. and i don't have. >> why don't you join instead? >> why don't you join instead? >> thought you sitting >> why don't you join instead? >> studios. ught you sitting >> why don't you join instead? >> studios. ugthinku sitting >> why don't you join instead? >> studios. ugthink you sitting >> why don't you join instead? >> studios. ugthink you should1g tv studios. i think you should join. go. i think it's join. there we go. i think it's in the nation. join. there we go. i think it's in tyou'reion. join. there we go. i think it's in tyou're the perfect one for it. >> still, tom, tonight, fireworks still to come. >> in britain, >> the wokeist man in britain, benjamin butterworth, his benjamin butterworth, has his say prince andrew say on whether prince andrew should say on whether prince andrew shoulcin windsor is lodge in windsor park. this is the five. with .

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reputation? i'll be asking former government minister edwina currie , plus top royal edwina currie, plus top royal insider lady victoria harvey and radio and tv legend mike reid . radio and tv legend mike reid. it's your perfect saturday night in mark dolan tonight. we're live at nine. >> welcome back to the saturday five top show, by the way. coming up with mark dolan at 9:00. do not miss. as always, thanks for your emails. should we get stuck into a couple of them? uh, kez says that turning flimsy boats back is dangerous. illegal migrants in the channel need saving, then taking back to france. kev . sorry, france. um, well, kev. sorry, kez. what they did in australia was they took them out the flimsy and put them into flimsy boats and put them into unsinkable lifeboats. so i'm suggesting same suggesting we should do the same thing. steve yes, we thing. uh, steve says yes, we can turn them back. we managed to them here to find them to bring them here quick i'm sure we can quick enough. so i'm sure we can find them to send them back to france. and, belinda, some love for . uh, coming from alan,

for you. uh, coming from alan, 100% agree with you, belinda . we 100% agree with you, belinda. we must increase strength of must increase the strength of our the woke our armed forces. been the woke agenda. our armed forces. been the woke agenda . amen. alan good lad. now agenda. amen. alan good lad. now it's agenda. amen. alan good lad. now wsfime agenda. amen. alan good lad. now it's time for our next debate. darren, what's been on your mind this week ? this week? >> well, where do i start? right i want to talk to you about a really important theme. since october the 7th, which was the israel attack, the massacre that took place at the hands of hamas . london has been hijacked by sympathisers of islamist extremism. and it's a sad reality for our historic . city reality for our historic. city every week now, you hear chants of jihad and intifada , and they of jihad and intifada, and they resonate through the streets. if you ask me, it's a grim reminder of the ideology seeping in to our society . john woodcock is our society. john woodcock is now called lord walney, and a former labour mp. he's demanding accountability and i think he's spot on. he insists that these weekly disruption is a blatant display of jew hate. shouldn't be the british taxpayer burden. and i say i agree. why should

sharon in scarborough or any law abiding brit foot the bill for this house today, 1700 police officers from across the country were deployed to police these processions , a gross processions, a gross misallocation of resources that could be better. used to tackling real crime . the tackling real crime. the leaflets distributed celebrate in hamas. they're not just tactics, but a blatant endorsement of terror, a mockery of our values and our laws. these aren't the actions of progressive . that's what they're progressive. that's what they're calling themselves. they're the hallmarks of barbarism. the crowds eagerness to attack unarmed cargo ships and their disdain for the uk and the usa illustrate a dangerous shift in narrative stand in there with a thanks to yemen. wow now standing against terrorism . once standing against terrorism. once a common virtue, it's now been overshadowed by support for groups like the houthis, who've reintroduced slavery in yemen and systemically violate the

rights of women and girls. how now? progressive london, now a breeding ground for these hate marches, is being funded by us, the taxpayers, elsewhere . and i the taxpayers, elsewhere. and i say it's high time we all said not in my name . cheers very much i >> -- >> darren. you said yemen with such gusto there. can we can we hearit such gusto there. can we can we hear it again? >> yemen wasn't quite the same as the first time. >> oh, no, you said yemen, right? >> okay, well, speaking of yemen , i mean, even benjamin, you are actually good. actually pretty good. i retweeted you earlier because you said i forget what it you had said i forget what it was, but i'll say it, you see. >> uh, well, no, you saw you used that image of the person saying thank. used that image of the person saying thank . you, yemen, which saying thank. you, yemen, which is utterly shocking because how notable that those people who so riotously attacked israel for the loss of life in gaza, now found themselves supporting the houthi rebels, were far more than 8000 muslims have been killed in yemen in order for

them to take over what had been a democratically elected government. and it seems . like government. and it seems. like those people that were taking the moral high ground in their attacks on israel and the tragic loss of life there's been in that part of the world now don't care about the morality at all or invasion at all, or bombing at all. actually what they hate is they're anti—semites and they hate the west. >> that's a really interesting point, belinda, because i saw one of the activists who's put together the events today was doing an interview with the chinese state television for europe. and i thought, hang on a minute, you're all right. doing china state television, despite what the chinese have done to the uyghur muslims . but you're the uyghur muslims. but you're campaigning on the behalf of muslims, you say, and not against well in favour of what i view as vehement jew hate. yeah. and that's what it is, isn't it? this is ultimately what this boils down to. >> well, you don't see protests against all the horrific deaths in syria. the discrimination of

muslims in china. you don't see any of it. the my god, the islamist terror has been a curse on this world from the christians being slaughtered in nigeria haram to the al nigeria by boko haram to the al shabab, to al—qaeda i mean, islamist terror has now got its useful idiots on the streets of this country. and i'm sick to death of seeing these protests. i don't think should get i don't think they should get a money taxpayer. i'm money from the taxpayer. i'm actually to death seeing actually sick to death of seeing the not the palestinian flag. not because huge because i don't have huge compassion for all those innocent are harmed , innocent who are being harmed, but because it is so strongly associated with islamist terror and who apologise for and those who apologise for islamist terror and excuse islamist terror and excuse islamist terror and excuse islamist terror. islamist terror and excuse islamist terror . and you see a islamist terror. and you see a lot of that on the marches and anti—semitism. it needs to be out of our country, out of our streets , out. bring the english streets, out. bring the english flag back for once. >> well, i agree with you on your show since october the 7th have always highlighted the fact that jews in that actually people jews in britain, safe and britain, don't feel safe and especially london. especially in london. do you think london's lost? >> well, i think it is truly lost. i don't know what has happened people . i'm sick to

happened to people. i'm sick to my back teeth sometimes when i'm listening radio shows or listening to some radio shows or whatever here gb whatever. none are here on gb news, add. and you're news, i might add. and you're heanng news, i might add. and you're hearing people call and hearing people call up and they're support people they're in support of the people of gaza. the though, you of gaza. in the end, though, you start listening and gradually they get to the crux of it, where they're almost excusing october as though it october the 7th as though it didn't they've forgotten october the 7th as though it did about they've forgotten october the 7th as though it did about it, they've forgotten october the 7th as though it did about it, and 1ey've forgotten october the 7th as though it did about it, and they're orgotten all about it, and they're already now , you know, saying, already now, you know, saying, oh, don't anyone die. oh, we don't want anyone to die. and really and all this. but really ultimately it is some ultimately behind it is some sort of anti—semitism. i'm sort of anti—semitism. and i'm actually i've never seen this before. i have as a, as a black woman, not faced as much racism as i've seen anti—semitism in this country. and i'm completely shocked by it. i had no idea that this is what what it was all about. and now when i see people, you know, you have queers for palestine. it's like, oh, hold on a minute. have you seen christmas? have you seen what they have done to some gay people? come on. you have people who don't understand what they're saying when they're chanting from the river to the sea. they don't know what it

means. they're just getting onto sea. they don't know what it metband hey're just getting onto sea. they don't know what it metband wagon ust getting onto sea. they don't know what it metband wagon of: getting onto sea. they don't know what it metband wagon of something.to sea. they don't know what it metband wagon of something. and the band wagon of something. and i look at it, it's i think if you look at it, it's actually quite ugly. >> as as >> yeah, as far as i'm concerned, the people go on concerned, the people that go on to of london and to the streets of london and support hamas and even today trying the houthi trying to big up the houthi rebels, might be british on rebels, they might be british on papen paper, but they're not displaying paper, but they're not displaypride and idealisms. one british pride and idealisms. one thing i will say, though , of thing i will say, though, of course israel has the right to defend itself. i've said that since the start. however, there is growing now and even is growing pressure now and even a growing consciousness among world you had joe biden world leaders. you had joe biden a of back, ben a couple of weeks back, ben wallace, all wallace, david cameron all saying now that the consciousness . of these world consciousness. of these world leaders, these people who've been behind so many walls themselves, joe biden, the warmongering, i mean, let let me finish, i was going on to the point that according to hamas and actually the un seems to agree with a rough kind of figure that some 8000 children have now died in palestine. and i just don't know how long israel can. >> those are any death of a child is obviously appalling, and are figures from and those are figures from hamas. phrase , you hamas. you hear this phrase, you know, whether it's 1 or it

know, whether it's 1 or 8000, it doesn't matter. it's gaza and health. ministry, the health. health ministry, the gaza the gaza gaza health ministry, the gaza health ministry is the arm of health ministry is the pr arm of hamas. made up. hamas. it is a totally made up. >> i said, the un has has >> as i said, the un has has pretty much agreed with it. they said well, course said a thousand. well, of course they they have, they of course they have, because the because you currently have the un hosting south africa's farcical genocide claim, benjamin, to say benjamin, in which just to say south country had benjamin, in which just to say s0|problem country had benjamin, in which just to say s0|problem (abstained had no problem and abstained on russia in in invading ukraine and innocent ukrainian and murdering innocent ukrainian children and men women, they children and men and women, they had problem with that. children and men and women, they hacthey�*roblem with that. children and men and women, they hacthey werem with that. children and men and women, they hacthey were oneith that. children and men and women, they hacthey were one of that. children and men and women, they hacthey were one of trhandful of >> they were one of a handful of countries abstain . countries to abstain. >> but apparently politicians standing it's we standing up and saying it's we kill the white people, kill the standing up and saying it's we kill trfarmers,3eople, kill the standing up and saying it's we kill trfarmers, andle, kill the standing up and saying it's we kill trfarmers, and nowill the standing up and saying it's we kill trfarmers, and now they're white farmers, and now they're turning accusing israel. >> the only thing i would i would disagree and i would disagree with briefly, is disagree with nana briefly, is this that london is lost is this idea that london is lost is not fair, because think the not fair, because i think the vast people vast majority of people in london, britain, do london, as in britain, do not take views even if they take these views even if they can't go out on weekend, take these views even if they can'tthe out on weekend, take these views even if they can'tthe protest weekend, take these views even if they can'tthe protest . weekend, take these views even if they can'tthe protest . i weekend, take these views even if they can'tthe protest . i don't end, take these views even if they can'tthe protest . i don't think stop the protest. i don't think protest should pay for them because exactly how because that's not exactly how a democratic every week works, right? >> we're going to move on. uh, i would on that final point. i'm going to i'm presenting this show, so going to get the

show, so i'm going to get the final would london final point. i would say london is doesn't feel like an is lost. it doesn't feel like an engush is lost. it doesn't feel like an english city. and it english city. and i've said it on before. on this show before. anyway still come nana akua still to come tonight, nana akua will be discussing the dangers of vehicles of electric vehicles and benjamin stuck into, benjamin gets stuck into, uh, prince royal prince andrew and the royal lodge should he be kicked out. more that after this. stay more of that after this. stay with .

radio. >> welcome back to the saturday five. very feisty show. and as always, we appreciate your emails as well. even the nasty ones. let's grab a couple now. sue says tell the immigrants they'll have to do two years national service when they get here. i bet that would stop the influx and act deterrent. influx and act as a deterrent. not idea. i actually think not a bad idea. i actually think we bring that back for we should bring that back for national service for kids 16 to 18 year olds might, um, teach these gen zers a thing or two, and, uh, shel says, good evening, shel. there's hate speech, hateful chants , support speech, hateful chants, support for calls for jihad ,

for islamists, calls for jihad, and now support for the houthis going there. going on in there. >> ridiculous . >> it's just ridiculous. >> it's just ridiculous. >> all this is this is not london anymore . london anymore. >> how is this legal? it's disgusting. that's the point, isn't it? it's so it's got such a ridiculous point that it's just laughable. >> but these people, if they saw them, anyway. them, would shoot them anyway. these people are supposedly they think holding up think they should be holding up the darling, absolute >> darling, you'd be absolute imprisoned married off for imprisoned and married off for eight if you're in eight years old. if you're in yemen mate. yemen, mate. >> one other email saying >> we had one other email saying , darren and benjamin , uh, are darren and benjamin a couple? um, not sure if there's some flirtation going there. some flirtation going on there. almost and also, when is when is benjamin going to lay into the pensioners? well, i can tell you now up next and he's going now he's up next and he's going to prince andrew it to lay into prince andrew as it is and ask whether he should be evicted royal house in evicted from his royal house in windsor great park. take it away, benjamin. >> not quite >> yeah, he's not quite a pensioner, is pensioner, but, uh, he is getting my nerves getting on my nerves nonetheless. it's about nonetheless. i think it's about time we ended the farce of prince andrew and his royal perks. we've had yet another week of appalling allegations about the prince. it was claimed this week that he had , uh,

this week that he had, uh, massages daily while on the island of, uh, jeffrey epstein, the disgraced paedophile that he kept a friendship with. there were even disputed claims about sex videos of the prince, how disgusting. now, as you always have to say, he denies all these claims very strongly. and yet the claims keep coming and this is embarrassing. our royal family. he is in undermining the entire institution and while doing so, the royals us, our money are putting him up in a 30 room royal lodge. now this is a disgrace. quite frankly . disgrace. quite frankly. apparently he's been hiding in one room in that royal lodge for the past week because he was so nervous about the allegations that out. look, it's that came out. look, it's a disgrace that he gets a grace and favour house from taxpayers and favour house from taxpayers and from the royal family. i think it's about time that the king used his sausage fingers to kick out prince andrew from his freebie home. in fact, anyone else that doesn't have a job to go to would be on a council

estate in slough. i think for the sake of the royal family if he's to keep his job as his keep his title as a prince, then we stick him out on the council estate in slough and get rid of him. >> can you stop? can you stop dissing slough? >> get a job as well. >> he can get a job as well. actually i actually whilst he's at it, i doubt there's lots of doubt that in there's lots of jobs going. >> i'll just before you start, benjamin, just say prince benjamin, i'll just say prince andrew of course strenuously denies allegations. he says denies any allegations. he says he even met his accuser, he never even met his accuser, virginia giuffre. >> said in monologue, >> as i said in my monologue, yes don't want yes, uh, belinda, i don't want to cancelled. to get cancelled. >> all right. to get cancelled. >> belinda,. to get cancelled. >> belinda, i, uh, belinda, what do make of. do you make of. >> i am no fan of prince andrew, but say this, i feel but i would say this, i feel very honour bound to our late queen. her son, and queen. and it's her son, and he's as messed up, and i think he's as messed up, and i think he should go and live a quiet life somewhere away from royal family. and stop bringing its reputation into disrepute. i completely agree with that. but i think completely demonising and dehumanising a man before he's been charged, before he's been found guilty of anything in sort of hysterical rants, not

that yours was hysterical rants, benjamin, but i'm just saying, i think we just need to be careful that, you know, it could happen to us. we could to any one of us. we could suddenly have massive allegations way. are allegations thrown our way. are you list? well, but you on the list? well, no. but for the alleged , the for example, the alleged, the alleged videos and things like that, there's just no evidence there substantial there needs to be substantial evidence, i think, before accusations can be taken seriously. want seriously. i want him to disappear. doing disappear. i think he's doing harm family. harm to the royal family. i agree with you, but i do think we also need to edge on the on the just the side caution the just the side of caution when we're completely demonising the queen's son. just because i feel to the queen as feel loyalty to the queen as well, give him more of a well, to give him a more of a fairer shout. >> if you're very, very >> if you're being very, very generous to andrew, think his generous to andrew, i think his worst, worst piece of worst, um, his worst piece of behaviour just little behaviour is just being a little bit isn't it? bit thick and stupid. isn't it? putting yourself in that position? absolutely. position? well, absolutely. >> mandelson , >> but i, peter mandelson, andrew was andrew peter mandelson was photographed . with jeffrey photographed. with jeffrey epstein. should peter mandelson be disgraced from public life and removed all outright? >> i've a feeling >> i mean, i've got a feeling that mandelson wasn't that peter mandelson wasn't accused of having , you know, accused of having, you know, intimate moments with with women

on the island, given he's a homosexual. >> but what what's the actual accusation that you're saying should prince andrew from should remove prince andrew from pubuc should remove prince andrew from public well, the public life? well, the accusations , which again, he accusations, which again, he denies, he paid denies, but for which he paid $12 million or pounds to virginia giuffre over her claims of being sleeping with her when he was seven, without a shadow of a doubt they are of a doubt that they are absolutely true. of a doubt that they are absilutely true. of a doubt that they are absi think true. of a doubt that they are absi think thee. of a doubt that they are absi think the people in this >> i think the people in this country have their mind up, country have made their mind up, and is when you and the fact is that when you have that scenario, every time he and he was seen today he is seen and he was seen today doing a shooting with doing a shooting weekend with friends, know, what a so friends, you know, what a so what can't he go what guy, why can't he go shooting friends? well shooting with friends? well actually i think that he is disgracing royal disgracing the royal family every shows and every time he shows his face and he refuses to leave public life as much as we decided that arrogant and stupid buffoon is bringing down our royal family. you had a shooting isn't exactly trooping the colour , is it? you trooping the colour, is it? you had a poll this week that found that 48% of people support the monarchy , the first time it's monarchy, the first time it's ever gone under 50. that was from that was from from republic, that was from anti—monarchy republic. >> wants to destroy i >> who wants to destroy them? i

think that's convenient. >> needs to know some backbone. the kind backbone the the kind of backbone that the queen well for the kind of backbone that the que�*kick well for the kind of backbone that the que�*kick out well for the kind of backbone that the que�*kick out and well for the kind of backbone that the que�*kick out and do ll for the kind of backbone that the que�*kick out and do you for the kind of backbone that the que�*kick out and do you knowor what? >> look, i think he's had a bit a bit of a ride this a bit of a rough ride on this one know, there are one because, you know, there are no there's no proof of any of the things that have been alleged anyway. know, alleged anyway. and, you know, if an intrusion there alleged anyway. and, you know, if horrendous. intrusion there alleged anyway. and, you know, if horrendous. butision there alleged anyway. and, you know, if horrendous. but he n there alleged anyway. and, you know, if horrendous. but he in:here alleged anyway. and, you know, if horrendous. but he in are are horrendous. but he in a sense could be guilty by association, which is, i think, association, which is, i think, a little bit unfair. also so i think he paid that money because he knew his mother was dying and he knew his mother was dying and he want her to have he didn't want her to have a rough year or in a final rough year or so. in a final moment . no, no, but they paid moment. no, no, but they paid it. he allowed it to go that way instead of just, know, instead of just, you know, fighting charges and so i fighting the charges and so i think that's, you know, did think that's, you know, he did what he could. >> he royal duties now. >> he has no royal duties now. he's been relieved of all of those. and so why should someone that work for that isn't doing any work for the a the british public gets such a fancy house on the diamond? >> why should anyone a fancy >> why should anyone get a fancy hat? i he's he is a prince hat? i mean, he's he is a prince by birth. it's not his fault. >> he i, i do agree he >> he i, i do agree that he should has so >> reputation has been so damaged by this that he now

can't perform any of the duties that he was literally born. >> reputation is damaged by the fact that he's an idiot, right? emily maitlis interview told us all what want . all what you want. >> we him in the >> should we whip him in the streets ? streets? >> no. what will be? >> no. what will be? >> that's jeremy clarkson >> that's what jeremy clarkson would do. >> the point as said >> the point is, as i said a second if you're being very second ago, if you're being very , generous andrew, it's , very generous to andrew, it's that just incredibly that he's just been incredibly thick like thick and stupid, much like prince harry. a lot of the time. he hasn't that he just hasn't got that shrewdness to shrewdness about him of how to behave royal. he hang out behave as a royal. he hang out with epstein, uh, a couple of years after epstein years at least, after epstein was for , for was first prosecuted for, for messing around with under age or trafficked girls. that displays a severe lack of judgement. and for that alone, he risks bringing down the monarchy and at best clouding the monarchy. in in a in a cloud of disgrace and embarrassment. so he needs to drop the arrogance and just go off, as benjamin said, go off somewhere he has. >> what else do you want him to do? >> he hasn't. there's rumours that, well, hey, he needs. >> should we lock him in the tower of london?

>> he needs to. >> he needs to. >> to listen his >> he needs to listen to his brother, king, and get out brother, the king, and get out of first of of royal lodge. first of all, he's around in our that he's rattling around in our that eight bedroom mansion slash cottage, bedroom. eight bedroom mansion slash cottagjust bedroom. eight bedroom mansion slash cottagjust drop bedroom. eight bedroom mansion slash cottagjust drop the bedroom. yeah. just just drop the arrogance, the and arrogance, take the loss and just off somewhere just just scuttle off somewhere and brother, the king, and let your brother, the king, enjoy his reign that he's waited so without your so long for without your nonsense. and also harry's nonsense. and also harry's nonsunder that. up next, it's line under that. up next, it's nana akua talking about the dangers of electric vehicles. haven't seen all those haven't you seen all those bus fires in london recently? i spoke to a guy at the gym earlier. he said he bought an electric. name the brand electric. i won't name the brand in they sue us. an electric in case they sue us. an electric car which up on the car which blew up on the motorway. um, that after car which blew up on the motbreak. um, that after car which blew up on the motbreak. you're that after car which blew up on the motbreak. you're with that after the break. you're with the saturday

us. welcome back here with the saturday five live on gb news let's get stuck into more of your emails. some funny ones here actually adrian good evening friend. evening my friend. he says there's hut, there's a job in pizza hut, tunbridge wells a trainee tunbridge wells for a trainee kitchen porter. if prince andrew

wants to start there, i suspect he'd be right with the american hot, he doesn't hot, considering he doesn't sweat. gordon andrew sweat. uh, gordon says andrew was and is a war hero. you can't take that away from him. good point. we'll give him that. and richard says it's all based on allegations and gossip. we need facts. and finally, says, facts. and finally, ian says, send rwanda . all right. send him to rwanda. all right. who's up next? i think it's our, uh, our lovely nana akua. naughty nana as i've been calling her tonight. um, it's time for nana to get stuck into electric vehicles. take it away, my friend . my friend. >> now, listen, if somebody said to you i have a cunning plan in my blood, i'm going to invent a car that is ten times heavier than any car. you plug it in like you do, like your iphone , like you do, like your iphone, and it will burn through your rubber tires faster than you can say jack robinson. you'd say hmm'hmm, and you could have this thing for about £40,000. but whilst you're in it, don't touch on the lights, don't put on the music, whatever you do, don't put on the heater because you

see how far, how far it said you could go. well, you're not going to that far. if all of that to go that far. if all of that stuff is on and you're going to have a form anxiety, have a form of anxiety, something you've never even thought anxiety, where thought of. range anxiety, where it 300 it tells you you can go 300 miles, once you switched on miles, but once you switched on all it'll go half all the stuff, it'll go half that distance. would you buy into it? because this is what they're selling us. and the worst thing it on top of worst thing about it on top of all this, some point, at all of this, at some point, at some this thing could some time, this thing could just explode it seems that explode because it seems that that's what's happened to two buses this week on thursday, it was a full electric bus that caught fire in london, and on friday it was one of those hybnd friday it was one of those hybrid type things . so all of hybrid type things. so all of these type cars with batteries and let's not be generous and call them electric cars. let's call them electric cars. let's call them electric cars. let's call them what they are. battery operate vehicles and god help you if one of those catches fire because you know what? i don't know how the fire brigade are going to deal with them when we've got helium cars, petrol cars and electric cars on the road. what are you going to use? because things catch because once these things catch fire, have fire, electric cars simply have to out. you have to wait

to burn out. you have to wait for that go out. that's for that fire to go out. that's the problem with them. these cars catching fire on cars are catching fire on people's forecourts, in people's garages . they're burning garages. they're burning people's houses. garages. they're burning people's houses . and you're people's houses. and you're saying that we should have these by 2030, 20, 35 and by 2050 we're supposed to reach that carbon net zero target. it is utter madness. i, for one, am sticking with my citroen c1 and its petrol. >> yeah , you go nana you go >> yeah, you go nana you go nana. so my view on it is the same as, uh. i love that my view on it is, is that when we have the transition from vinyl records to cds , i loved picking records to cds, i loved picking up a vinyl and feeling it and putting the needle down with electric cars against normal cars, diesel cars. you cars, petrol, diesel cars. you don't the, you know, the don't have the, you know, the roar of the engine and the vibrations and the smell. i love the petrol. it's one of the smell of petrol. it's one of my smells and also the smell of petrol. it's one of my just smells and also the smell of petrol. it's one of my just don'tnells and also the smell of petrol. it's one of my just don't work and also the smell of petrol. it's one of my just don't work either so the smell of petrol. it's one of my just don't work either .0 the smell of petrol. it's one of my just don't work either. and they just don't work either. and i wouldn't surprised come i wouldn't be surprised if come 20, 20, 35 they push back the ban on diesel electric petrol cars even further. >> see why do cars business went

down ben. >> but but they're like scooby doo cars you know. they are now more like one unit. so if the battery goes like your battery goes just like your phone, new one. phone, you just get a new one. how that a good thing? phone, you just get a new one. hovi that a good thing? phone, you just get a new one. hovi williat a good thing? phone, you just get a new one. hovi will say good thing? phone, you just get a new one. hovi will say thatd thing? phone, you just get a new one. hovi will say that ouring? phone, you just get a new one. hovi will say that our producer, >> i will say that our producer, before we went on air, just told us himself an us that he's bought himself an electric he says it was electric car, and he says it was really good value. and i trust him from the northeast. >> um , well, i have to say, as a >> um, well, i have to say, as a professional, think he's professional, i think he's completely wrong. professional, i think he's conand ely wrong. professional, i think he's conand eithink ng. professional, i think he's conand eithink that he hasn't. >> and i think that he hasn't. how has had it for? how long has he had it for? >> he's getting monday. >> he's getting it on monday. >> he's getting it on monday. >> well, hasn't. >> yeah, well, he hasn't. he's only just getting on monday. only just getting it on monday. a people excited a lot of people get very excited by they get them by these cars. they get them then it'll be on fire then they think it'll be on fire next week. i'm going back to diesel. it's just diesel. well, maybe it's just driving bits around driving little bits around london doesn't drive no, london doesn't drive well, no, i was to say was about to say i'm a professional pedestrian. was about to say i'm a professi and the thing i don't like about cars, said about electric cars, they said they're silent. is they're silent. yeah. is it? they're good they're quiet. really good point. busy. or i with point. i am so busy. or i with the kids and making sure everyone's and everyone's crossing and everything. you know, loved everything. you know, i loved heanng hearing cars coming up, but no, they're aren't they're silent. also, aren't they're silent. also, aren't they supposed to be, like, environmentally but they supposed to be, like, envlike nentally but they supposed to be, like, envlike child lly but they supposed to be, like, envlike child slavery but they supposed to be, like, envlike child slavery to but they supposed to be, like, envlike child slavery to get it it's like child slavery to get the cobalt out of the ground to feed these batteries. i mean,

the whole thing is just a bit of a bit of a con, really. >> who drives here, by the way? is it just me? you as is it just me? you drive as well. >> driven e driven . you're well. >> driven . you're driven, of coui'se. >> course. >> driven. he's driving us all mad, wokery. yeah, mad, driven by wokery. yeah, that's a good one. but that's a very good one. but i have to say, actually, i. >> i was in an electric car for about two hours the other week, and i got really sick and i was saying it to the driver and he said that that's a problem we'd had the electric with had with the electric cars with with customers getting particularly with customers getting particulyou all look would say, >> oh, you all look would say, this don't know. this is i don't know. >> it's happened a few times >> but it's happened a few times now. driver now. and, and the driver confirmed look these are confirmed it. but look these are just of developing the just aspect of developing the technology. the fact is that we shouldn't and shouldn't be relying on oil and petrol to be able to get around the control that that takes out of our hands. lack of our hands. the lack of resource, . i think resource, the expense. i think this is the way forward. it's cleaner and more cleaner. >> well, it's not cleaner for who there's child labour at one end are getting all the resources . resources. >> there's a lot of there's a lot of carbon being produced to produce things . i produce these actual things. i mean, you think all the mean, how do you think all the

components what made components that what it's made out carbon to out of you requires carbon to create it? >> i can you're very >> i can tell you're very principled. nana. so i imagine >> i can tell you're very prindon't. nana. so i imagine >> i can tell you're very prindon't. nana so i imagine >> i can tell you're very prindon't. nana phonenagine >> i can tell you're very prindon't. nana phone orgine laptop. >> no, i use all of it. i'm not complaining about it. i'm saying you're the one that's being principled. >> it's the car. no, no , you're >> it's the car. no, no, you're the one. >> no, no, no, you're one >> no, no, no, you're the one that's about that's being principled about it. little kid. n0, that's being principled about it. little kid. no, i'm it. the little kid. no, i'm talking about phone. it. the little kid. no, i'm talkinthatout phone. it. the little kid. no, i'm talkinthat i'm3hone. it. the little kid. no, i'm talkinthat i'm talking about the >> is that i'm talking about the principle people saying that principle of people saying that this the environment i >> -- >> it's not good for the environment. not good for environment. it's not good for the people. it's not the young people. it's not good for the child labour. >> it's terrible. the rental giant the united giant hertz in in the united states they had states of america, they had 20,000 electric vehicles. states of america, they had 20, and electric vehicles. states of america, they had 20, and electric replacing every >> and they're replacing every single them of single one of them with, of course, tells we course, they tells me that we actually far too actually we've gone too far too fast. agree with benjamin to fast. i agree with benjamin to a certain that certain extent, that the technology choice good technology and choice is a good thing the consumer. our thing for the consumer. our producer should be absolutely thing for the consumer. our prodtoar should be absolutely thing for the consumer. our prodtoar soffild be absolutely thing for the consumer. our prodtoar soff ande absolutely thing for the consumer. our prodtoar soff and buysolutely thing for the consumer. our prodtoar soff and buy himself free to go off and buy himself an should he fancy an electric car. should he fancy one. i don't think we should one. but i don't think we should be mandating. that's the be mandating. well, that's the point gets. point everyone gets. >> right. >> that's absolutely right. we should should choose should decide. we should choose whether buy whether we want to buy it or not. if we want to buy it, not. and if we want to buy it, then we should be able to buy it. and petrol and diesel should

remain. >> and if you want to be a petrol head, all freedom to you. >> also the way electric >> and also by the way electric cars at the moment are just simply for most simply unaffordable for most people. cheapest people. i think the cheapest tesla 40 grand. tesla is about 40 grand. >> though clearly >> they are though clearly they're also they're expensive. but also that's what is that's why the targets what is it, 2035 by now to in it, 2035 by now to bring in electric cars will electric cars that will massively reduce the cost as demand scale goes demand goes up and scale goes up, then we'll be able up, and then we'll be able to be environmentally friendly and have low costs. all right. sounds lot about the sounds like a lot about the charging units. >> there's no charging. i'll we'll mandatory. we'll be when it's mandatory. >> stick with the >> i think i'll stick with the range rovers and the gas guzzling, uh defenders you range rovers and the gas guz.me. , uh defenders you range rovers and the gas guz.me.anyway,anders you range rovers and the gas guz.me.anyway,enders ywe've ask me. anyway, that's all we've got tonight. thank you got time for tonight. thank you so being with us. thank so much for being with us. thank you for your emails and sorry we couldn't read them all out from one leo another up next is one leo to another up next is leo kearse with the saturday night showdown. we're next leo kearse with the saturday night thankswn. we're next leo kearse with the saturday night thanks for we're next leo kearse with the saturday night thanks for watching. next leo kearse with the saturday night thanks for watching. we'llt week. thanks for watching. we'll see you again soon. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler airs sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey here with gb news weather forecast provided by the met office.

we've got a mixture of variable cloud and some clear spells to end this first half of the week end, and that is quite key in terms of what conditions you will see overnight. what do will see overnight. what you do see those clearer see some of those clearer spells, could just see some of those clearer spelloff could just see some of those clearer spelloff touch could just see some of those clearer spelloff touch with:ould just see some of those clearer spelloff touch with somejust drop off a touch with some pockets of frost developing mist and patches but and fog patches as well. but those areas hold on to the those areas that hold on to the cloud probably see cloud will probably see temperatures hold up temperatures just hold up slightly above freezing. of slightly above freezing. many of our cities around 1 or our towns and cities around 1 or 2 c, so not widespread frost, 2 c, so not a widespread frost, but chilly start to but still a chilly start to sunday morning. a reasonable of cloud for wales cloud holding on for wales central, england central, southern england throughout sunday as well. a few sunny breaks out for, sunny breaks to watch out for, but it's the northern half of the uk we'll some the uk where we'll see some slightly areas of slightly more prolonged areas of sunshine, though across sunshine, showers, though across northern will northern scotland will be falling to lower falling as snow, even to lower levels. with some levels. combine that with some very across the very strong winds across the north—east, they've got the risk of feeling of drifting snow and feeling very in those winds. even very bitter in those winds. even towards the south. a fairly cold day, six seven degrees celsius, but it's that very cold arctic air in the north that's going to sweep its way southwards over the course of sunday and into monday. blue colours monday. those blue colours covering entirety of the uk.

covering the entirety of the uk. so us will certainly so some of us will certainly have to scrape the cars. the first thing on monday morning. the showers will be continuing to push their way into the north, primarily for northern scotland, we'll also north, primarily for northern scotlé snow we'll also north, primarily for northern scotlé snow showers also north, primarily for northern scotlé snow showers for also north, primarily for northern scotlé snow showers for northern some snow showers for northern ireland, perhaps for the some snow showers for northern irelwest perhaps for the some snow showers for northern irelwest pe|wales, for the some snow showers for northern irelwest pe|wales, southwesta far west of wales, southwest england, as well as skirting into and parts of into humberside and parts of norfolk, further into humberside and parts of norfolkwidespreadlrther skies inland, widespread blue skies but and the but feeling very cold and the cold conditions continue right throughout the week. >> looks like things >> but by looks like things are heating as heating up boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on .

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