big debate , and big opinion, big debate, and big entertainment along the way . entertainment along the way. this is your perfect saturday night in. let's start with the headlines. and tatiana sanchez . headlines. and tatiana sanchez. >> mark thank you. your top stories from the gb news room. nine arrests were made during a pro—palestine rally through central london today. the arrests were made for alleged offences including inciting racial hatred, a suspected racially aggravated public order offence and on suspicion of supporting a proscribed organisation. thousands of people turned out calling for a ceasefire in gaza. 1700 police officers were also deployed onto the streets of the capital. yemen's houthi rebels have promised a strong and effective response following a fresh strike by the us. the us says it was a follow up to a joint uk mission targeting houthi positions , as the west is trying positions, as the west is trying to stop the iranian backed group

from attacking ships in the red sea. us president joe biden confirmed a private message was delivered to tehran , making it delivered to tehran, making it clear the us is well prepared. a former postmistress who's planning to run against her ed davey at the next general election says he must be brought to justice. the lib dem leader was the postal affairs minister dunng was the postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal, but has refused to apologise or take any accountability for his inaction. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after falsely software led to shortfalls in subpostmasters accounts . sir ed subpostmasters accounts. sir ed davey says he was lied to by the post office on an industrial scale. speaking exclusively to gb news, yvonne tracy says she felt compelled to take a stand. >> i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably their confidence is not, and they probably are fed up to death with government , etc. death with the government, etc. so i thought ,

death with the government, etc. so i thought, it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something and this is all i can do. i think he should be brought to account. >> around 150 migrants have been intercepted in the english channel intercepted in the english channel, ending the extended pause in crossings on board three small boats. they're the first to make the treacherous journey since the 16th of september. that's the longest penod september. that's the longest period without any migrant arrivals for almost four years. it's thought bad weather conditions may have prevented more people from crossing over the past few weeks , and a league the past few weeks, and a league one football match had to be abandoned today after around 1000 redding home fans invaded the pitch. the start of the game was interrupted for three minutes when tennis balls were thrown onto the pitch. the referee then had to take the players off after just 16 minutes of the game, as home fans took to the field with some letting off blue flares, many reading supporters want the owner to sell the club , which is

owner to sell the club, which is currently fourth from the bottom in the third tier, following sanctions imposed on them by the efl . the o's are your top efl. the o's are your top stories on gb news across the uk, on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . mark. now back to. mark. >> lovely to have tatiana with us.she >> lovely to have tatiana with us. she returns in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight site and your perfect saturday night in. in my opinion, the psycho scientists who urged ruinous lockdowns are back this time urging us to wear masks again . back this time urging us to wear masks again. my back this time urging us to wear masks again . my reaction shortly masks again. my reaction shortly in the big story will the post office ever recover its reputation? what is the future for this tainted organisation? i'll be asking former government minister and someone that has handled a few crises in her career. edwina currie . my mark career. edwina currie. my mark meets guest is the successful entrepreneur who started life with nothing but built . with nothing but built. a property empire and now wants

his legacy to be the end of knife crime. he tells his amazing story shortly and he might take a turn. the post office scandal proves that ordinary don't stand ordinary people don't stand a chance against the governing elite people. power dead . elite people. power is dead. i've unearthed more horrors from this debacle, which i shall reveal at ten. we haven't even seen the start of it. plus moving revelations about the queen's last days have emerged. i'll get full reaction from america's top royal pundit, kinsey schofield . and at kinsey schofield. and at tomorrow's front pages at 1030 sharp, with three top people who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script tonight, campaigner and author chris wild, socialite and television personality, lady victoria harvey and television and radio legend mike reid does the conflict in the red sea prove that britain needs to invest more in the armed forces ? invest more in the armed forces? i'll be asking international journalist and former adviser to margaret thatcher, nigel gardiner. plus i'll get the

views my top pundits on that views of my top pundits on that one as well. and the most important part of the show , your important part of the show, your emails, straight to my emails, they come straight to my laptop mark at gbnews.com, and this show has a golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch . i just won't have it a big two hours to come crack open the bubbly, let's get to work and we start with my big opinion . and start with my big opinion. and that was me thinking the red sea was where you go for a nice houdayin was where you go for a nice holiday in egypt. iran backed houthi rebels have been attacking commercial ships in the red sea with drones and missiles ever since israel's war in gaza broke out. proof if you needed it, that what's happening in the middle east has global implications. in the middle east has global implications . the in the middle east has global implications. the red sea is one of the world's busiest shipping channels , and disruption to the channels, and disruption to the flow of goods has major implications for economies like ours, impacting industry, hurting businesses and potentially reigniting

inflation. as the cost of delayed goods skyrockets . it delayed goods skyrockets. it stands to reason, therefore, that america and the uk were absolutely right to respond with air strikes on more than a dozen sites in yemen where the houthis are headquartered . this is scary are headquartered. this is scary stuff. as the conflict between western allies and this yemeni militia group is really just a proxy for a war between the us and iran. iran is a military superpower with designs on having nuclear weapons. they've backed hamas with money and munitions and enjoy some support from both russia and china. now, whilst i don't like to talk this country down, it's a sad example of our lack of ambition that just as trouble brews in a far flung region, the royal navy announces it's been forced to decommission two warships hms westminster and hms argyll , due westminster and hms argyll, due to a lack of sailors . britain westminster and hms argyll, due to a lack of sailors. britain is running out of seamen . well, running out of seamen. well, we've all been there. i mean ,

we've all been there. i mean, while the telegraph today report that britain's aircraft carriers are not ready to be sent to the red sea because of the recruitment crisis engulfing the armed forces , so a depleted navy armed forces, so a depleted navy , a depleted army and a depleted royal air force , which seems to royal air force, which seems to be more concerned about diversity than security . maybe diversity than security. maybe britain is becoming less safe than ever in an increasingly unsafe world. the young generation, more worried about pronouns and hurt feelings , seem pronouns and hurt feelings, seem unaware that britain faced an existential threat from germany twice in two world wars. and now britain and the west face a grave threat from islamic extremism . so it's time to extremism. so it's time to properly invest in our armed forces. it's not cheap , but in forces. it's not cheap, but in failing to do so, we ultimately will pay a far higher price. i'll be discussing this story with my top pundits and international journalist and former advisor to margaret thatcher, niall gardner. before the end of the hour , the covid

the end of the hour, the covid extremist are back. a top scientist has claimed that brits should start wearing face masks again, as he warned that the latest covid wave could be the biggest yet. who cares is stop testing for this disease . we testing for this disease. we probably should have treated it like a bad flu from the start. now don't get me wrong, the covid virus can be very nasty and has taken to many from us, but our reaction to it has led to a waiting list of 8 million people on the nhs , a broken people on the nhs, a broken society, a wrecked economy and a generation of damaged kids. doesn't sound like a great pubuc doesn't sound like a great public health policy to me. a new variant called jn1, which i thought was a boy band, is an offshoot of the omicron strain and now accounts for 65% of all cases. and now accounts for 65% of all cases . the virus expert at cases. the virus expert at imperial college london, professor peter openshaw , told professor peter openshaw, told the sun newspaper we're going to see quite a major surge in infections over the coming weeks. he goes on the wave could

be bigger than anything we've seen before to help stop the spread . those who haven't had spread. those who haven't had the covid booster should consider wearing face masks in pubuc consider wearing face masks in public places like on trains and when shopping and at large events where have we heard all that before ? it's unfortunate that before? it's unfortunate that before? it's unfortunate that professor openshaw is from imperial college in london, whose modelling consistently overstated the threat of covid and spooked the government into ruinous and, in my view , utterly ruinous and, in my view, utterly failed, lockdowns. why on earth are we still listening to these people who led this country down such a damaging path in an historically expensive effort to stop a seasonal respiratory virus? luckily, we're not as bad as countries like spain, who have made these masks mandatory in hospitals and health centres in hospitals and health centres in spite of the fact that there is precious little compelling real world evidence that these filthy bacteria ridden rags make a blind bit of difference right from the start of the pandemic, people should have had agency to

act as they saw fit in regard to the virus. get the information and respond as preferred. that's what happened in various states in america. who fared well, like florida and texas, and most notably in sweden, who now boast the lowest excess deaths in europe since 2020. even beating their scandinavian neighbours . their scandinavian neighbours. no lockdowns, no mask mandates . no lockdowns, no mask mandates. they have won the argument more fool us for having gone along with the madness in the first place. but once bitten, twice shy . now take a look at this. shy. now take a look at this. this is a video of me chopping up a mask with a pair of scissors early in the pandemic. on my old talk radio show. it led to a viral video watched by millions world. it millions around the world. it was quite dramatic, i've got to say . i've chopped up and say. i've chopped it up and there throwing it the there i am, throwing it at the camera, furious . well, i would camera, furious. well, i would argue that video has aged pretty well, the advice to wear well, unlike the advice to wear these harmful , well, unlike the advice to wear these harmful, environmentally catastrophic , scientifically catastrophic, scientifically debateable muzzles. well, i'm delighted to say that i've still

got those scissors that i used to chop up that mask all those years ago . and let me tell you, years ago. and let me tell you, i'm not afraid to use them again . i've just discovered it's very hard to throw away a pair of scissors when they're on your fingers. now, listen. now, your reaction market gb news.com. let me be crystal clear that the government and its top medical advisers and scientists are abundantly that masks ing abundantly clear that masks ing vaccine mandates and social distancing and all the other covid measures lockdowns made a big difference in keeping the nhs from being overwhelmed and in saving many lives. that is not my view, but that is the clear government advice and probably the majority view as well, which is why i want to debate it with my top pundits right now. campaign and author chris wild, socialite and television personality lady victoria harvey , and television victoria harvey, and television and radio legend mike reid .

and radio legend mike reid. chris wild, are you going to mask again this winter? no, i'm not, and reason being is. >> first of all, i'm fed up of all the scaremongering. and secondly, when we start to talk about masks , all i can think about masks, all i can think about masks, all i can think about now is a money making mechanism which makes certain people very, very rich . well, people very, very rich. well, i've been wearing a mask. no, i will not. >> okay. i mean, did you wear one first time round, chris. >> didn't , i didn't at >> no, i didn't, i didn't at all. because again, this, all. because again, all this, you evidence . i work you know, pure evidence. i work on evidence. i worked on on pure evidence. i worked on the line throughout covid. the front line throughout covid. inever the front line throughout covid. i never got sick. i started to wear when i was forced wear a mask when i was forced to. i i got i got vaccinated when i was forced to and i became very unwell . so i've got became very unwell. so i've got my own personal opinions about that mark. and for that reason i won't be. i won't be listening to these so—called professionals. i'm not going to be forced to do something. i do not do. not want to do. >> had your time again >> if you had your time again and were your agency, and were given your own agency, would had the vaccine? no. >> i wouldn't, i got extremely unwell when had it and then unwell when i had it and then obviously medical obviously i'm not a medical professional. within the professional. i work within the nhs. it for that reason. i

nhs. i did it for that reason. i got vaccinated because it was a part work. i was to part of my work. but if i was to go back now, no, would not. go back now, no, i would not. i wouldn't have it at all. wouldn't have had it at all. >> it would be a crime >> victoria. it would be a crime to cover any of your face. you're a model, a socialite, an influencer. but, would influencer. but, sir, would you consider lives consider masking to save lives? >> i was quite an anti—masker from very beginning . i from the very beginning. i actually had my tv cable disconnected in may 2020. and stop watching , uh, mainstream stop watching, uh, mainstream media and got all my news from telegram , from independent telegram, from independent journalists and places that it was not propaganda. so i'm, i'm very much like against anything to do with restraining us. um, for a flu. mike. mike week . i for a flu. mike. mike week. i never wore a mask. i never got sick. i actually finally he, um, tested positive for the first time about a year ago , um, in time about a year ago, um, in london. but i was . i was fine, london. but i was. i was fine, like, now. mike reid, let's be clear that the vast majority of medical experts and scientists

would argue that the vaccine is very safe and has saved millions of lives around the world. >> can we focus on masking ? >> can we focus on masking? because, um, perhaps it's a courtesy to wear one in the winter months because then if you're on, you know, public transport, you're coughing, you're not going to spread your germs. perhaps mike reid, it's a courtesy to wear a mask. i oh, well, no, i sort of wore one through peer pressure first time round because they wouldn't let you into a lot of food shops unless you were wearing a mask. >> and also, i got some quite fancy ones because maybe you did mark as well. people advertising on and i thought, this is on them. and i thought, this is quite good, you maybe quite good, you know, maybe get some the some advertising going on the masks. was pretty masks. but no, it was pretty weird because you're muffled talking to people you couldn't see whether people were smiling, snarling you got snarling at you, hating. you got their you couldn't their tongue out. you couldn't see someone's facial expression on.and see someone's facial expression on. and that's part of daily life. was a real problem life. that was a real problem for if they for me. however mike, if they were slowed the spread were to have slowed the spread of or do slow the of covid or if they do slow the spread of viruses in the winter months, the months, that protects the

vulnerable , doesn't it? vulnerable, doesn't it? >> so what's the problem with just popping one on when you're on a train or in a shop? mike yeah, i just, you know, i avoided people in shops. >> you can see people avoiding you in there. they swerve to go past you. um, i was i had the vaccination. i had two, and i didn't feel i'm well at all. so i guess it's just to down the individual as to whether they feel okay not. well victoria, feel okay or not. well victoria, going back to that idea and i knew you wanted to interject, but but perhaps it's courtesy to wear a mask. >> no. what was going to say >> no. what i was going to say is if you are sick and just say like you're sneezing and you're not, not feeling well. not, you're not feeling well. like if you go on public transport somewhere that transport or somewhere that you're going to be around people. yes, do believe then people. yes, i do believe then you wear common courtesy. you should wear common courtesy. >> . >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> but i'm saying if you are a healthy person you don't healthy person and you don't mind catching someone else's germs , then don't wear it. but germs, then don't wear it. but no , i agree. like if you're if no, i agree. like if you're if you're like contagious and you're like contagious and you're actually sick, then okay, you're actually sick, then okay, you can wear a mask. okay >> folks, they're >> well folks, if they're mandated again , if they were to

mandated again, if they were to be mandated, you wear one. be mandated, would you wear one. would comply? market gb would you comply? market gb news.com my brilliant pundits are back shortly. coming are back shortly. but coming up next in the big story, will the post office ever recover its reputation ? what is the future reputation? what is the future for this tainted organisation? i'll be asking former government minister currie. she's

radio. >> peter in cumbria has reacted to my big opinion. a top professor at imperial college has said we should be masking in crowded spaces in order to stop the spread of covid. did he not get the memo that the pandemic is over ? well, this from peter. is over? well, this from peter. dear mark. it shows how brainwashed people are to the mainstream media. ultra. we are sovereign , says peter. well, you sovereign, says peter. well, you are sovereign in cumbria . what are sovereign in cumbria. what a nice part of the world that is lucky you for living there. rosemary says. good evening rosemary. what a lovely name that is. rosemary says dear mark, view, masks are mark, in my view, masks are useful in cold weather, as if

the nose gets cold. viruses start growing in the nose and the white cells immune the white blood cells immune system are unable to to the system are unable to get to the problem. do their job. problem. to do theirjob. touchwood. had covid touchwood. i've never had covid rosemary there with the positive side a mask. side of wearing a mask. apparently paul mccartney loved the he's obviously the masks because he's obviously one of the most famous men in the but with mask he the world. but with the mask he was unrecognisable. could the world. but with the mask he was unraround able. could the world. but with the mask he was unraround tesco could the world. but with the mask he was unraround tesco and)uld the world. but with the mask he was unraround tesco and not the world. but with the mask he was unraround tesco and no one wander around tesco and no one knew it was him until he was singing love me do. john says mark. i see the clown factory known as imperial college has been , uh, known by many in the been, uh, known by many in the uk as a college of mrna information and should be ignored. now listen, john, i don't want to attack imperial college too much. it is a great seat education. it's seat of education. it's a globally renowned institution , globally renowned institution, but definitely got their but they definitely got their modelling wrong. the modelling was very pessimistic about covid, led the government covid, which led the government to introduce these lockdowns, which i believe were very expensive, very damaging to human health, mental health and of course the economy. but it's all about opinions. what's yours 7 all about opinions. what's yours ? market news. com last but all about opinions. what's yours ? mleast, news. com last but all about opinions. what's yours ? mleast, susanvs. com last but all about opinions. what's yours

? mleast, susan says�*m last but all about opinions. what's yours ? mleast, susan says mark,t but all about opinions. what's yours ? mleast, susan says mark, you not least, susan says mark, you mentioned that sweden the mentioned that sweden had the best in the last covid best outcome in the last covid epidemic , but they only have epidemic, but they only have a population of 10.4 million compared to the uk of 70 million. indeed susan. but those figures that news that sweden has had the lowest excess deaths is that per capita. so that's proportion of population . so proportion of population. so i would argue they've won the argument. but look thank you for your email. keep them coming . your email. keep them coming. it's for the big story. it's time now for the big story. and as the fallout continues from office scandal from the post office scandal as it over 700 it emerges, over 700 subpostmasters were wrongly prosecuted for theft. will the post office ever recover its reputation? what is the future now for this tainted organisation? let's get the views of former government minister and radio and television broadcaster edwina currie. edwina. lovely to see you and happy new year. is the scale of this scandal unprecedented ? wanted do you unprecedented? wanted do you think can you can you think of anything else that even came close to this scandal? >> well, i think the numbers are absolutely extraordinary . and

absolutely extraordinary. and especially if you think that over the next few weeks and months, we're likely to have the best part of a thousand people. uh having their convictions quashed all in one go, probably needing , uh, legislation to do needing, uh, legislation to do that. and that's unprecedented . that. and that's unprecedented. and there's at least 4000 people who the government have announced are entitled to compensation. and it looks as if there is still more people coming forward with this . and coming forward with this. and the amounts of compensation will be enormous. uh, the, the group that went to court , the 555, are that went to court, the 555, are entitled to £176,000. uh, the ones who went to jail are entitled to £600,000. of course , entitled to £600,000. of course, this is all tax free. and anyone that thinks that they're actually owed more than that, perhaps because their whole career was ruined. uh, there's one who was charged over £300,000 by the post . office uh, £300,000 by the post. office uh, just for their legal fees in taking him to court. um then they can go through the due

process, and i'm sure that they will get a very generous hearing. i hope so, anyway. so that's to the post that's going to cost the post office. well, it's going to cost us the best part of £1 us probably the best part of £1 billion. and and um, that billion. yeah. and and um, that in itself is absolutely astonishing . um, we've had other astonishing. um, we've had other , other crises and other scandals , but to have something scandals, but to have something quite like this i think is unprecedented . uh, at the same unprecedented. uh, at the same time, of course , we don't send time, of course, we don't send letters anymore . the only stuff letters anymore. the only stuff that comes through my door is, uh, fan mail, junk mail. junk mail. and, um, it's all your fans. >> edwina . >> edwina. >> edwina. >> uh, they send me emails and they send me copies of their own books, which i really appreciate. it's lovely . um, but appreciate. it's lovely. um, but we've moved away in terms of general communication. we are, uh, 200 years on from the start of the post office, very nearly. and as a result, it was actually fairly. it was one of the reasons, i gather, behind the whole scandal, uh, because at

the time that the horizon system was first introduced, they had about , i was first introduced, they had about, i think, about was first introduced, they had about , i think, about 19,000 about, i think, about 19,000 post offices in the country , and post offices in the country, and we're now down to about 7000. but in the absence of banks, they continue to do a really good service. and i think it's important to keep what we used to have two here in whaley bridge. we've only got one now, but it's always busy and i'm sure that's true in many other rural areas. um, what is it going to cost the post office? well, it looks as if they're going to get landed with a big tax bill. um, because, uh, dan needle from one of the, um, one of the, uh, think tanks, one of the tax, uh, think tanks is saying, you know, what? they over , uh, they they they took over, uh, they they they took out of their profits what it was costing them in compensation and, and the legal costs and all the rest of it. and they're probably not entitled to do all that, means that that, which means that they should been a lot should have been paying a lot more. another million more. another hundred million just, that into just, you know, shove that into the into the mix as well. will it recover it will never be the

post office that it was in 1999 when horizon was introduced . when horizon was introduced. post. and that's not just because of horizon, but the shame brought on so many of the senior people who worked there, the chairman, the chief executives , the investigator executives, the investigator ears who seem more like mafioso than anybody else . i mean that than anybody else. i mean that that's not going to go away, that's not going to go away, that will that taint will stay with them for a very long time. and anybody puts on their cv that they've worked in the post office. uh other than as an ordinary post deliverer is going to have some explaining to do when they go for interview for a new job. >> well, definitely . is it the >> well, definitely. is it the end of our national love affair with office? i with the post office? i mean, i know to know people that don't want to go their post office now go into their post office now because they're so shocked at what happened well, what happened and well, then they're wrong. >> that's wrong. and >> i think that's wrong. and i think because so think that's mean because so many of those are small businesses , liz, and we want businesses, liz, and we want them to be viable. uh, i buy my

foreign currency when i go into a post office. uh, i often put in the odd check. most recent check. i got was when i won £100 on the premium bonds. and guess what? our national savings and investment organisation actually sent me a check and i couldn't remember what to do with it. uh, but the post office, i'm sure will deal with that. and i love the fact that actually the posties come . they keep an eye posties come. they keep an eye on people . they keep an eye on on people. they keep an eye on old people. they're really helpful. it seems to that helpful. uh, it seems to me that we be worse off without we would be worse off without them. so use . your post office. them. so use. your post office. make the most of it. uh, and let's make sure that it's a much smaller organisation in future, but a much more honest one. >> you shouldn't have mentioned your windfall. your premium bond windfall. you'll get begging letters now, edwina , before you go , uh, could edwina, before you go, uh, could there be significant implications politically for sir keir starmer ? and do you think keir starmer? and do you think that ed davey's position is now tenable ? tenable? >> well, let davies position , >> well, let davies position, um, is a very unfortunate one

because he has so far failed in in giving interviews this week , in giving interviews this week, but he hasn't actually managed to, uh, explain how can he just brushed off the concerns of members of parliament raising these issues on the part of constituency , seem to have no constituency, seem to have no kind of curiosity about about it. it doesn't seem to have asked any of the civil servants, just go and check on this for me. i mean, he may still have got the wrong answer, but at least that would have been good. i gather postmistress i gather a former postmistress is to stand against him is planning to stand against him as an independent. yes, that's right, his speech. now that would be really interesting , would be really interesting, wouldn't it? um, as for some of the others, well, the inquiry is still going on. um it has its own youtube channel. you can watch it on many of the, uh , watch it on many of the, uh, many various aspects of the media. fascinating absolutely fascinating. i think . the people fascinating. i think. the people who are giving evidence next week are going to be fujitsu and, and, uh, wouldn't it be nice if they announced that they're going to contribute the

odd towards getting odd billion quid towards getting all out? that all this sorted out? that i think would be justice? >> what a great idea, edwina. great look forward great to see you. look forward to air adventures to many on air adventures together my thanks together in 2024. my thanks there to former government minister, broadcaster and author edwina currie. coming up, does the conflict in the red sea prove that britain needs to invest more the armed forces? invest more in the armed forces? i'll asking. international i'll be asking. international journalist adviser to journalist and former adviser to margaret thatcher, nigel gardiner . margaret thatcher, nigel gardiner. that's next. plus, we've been conducting a mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking, should britain be getting involved in another conflict in the middle east? well, the results are in. i shall reveal

radio. >> okay, folks, uh, there you go.the >> okay, folks, uh, there you go. the magically disappearing presenter. welcome back to the show. big reaction to my big opinion. a top professor wants to bring back masking. well views are coming in thick and fast. robert does not agree with me. robert people in 130 me. robert says people in 130 countries to prevent

countries wear masks to prevent cross—infection. but mark dolan knows better . uh. who else? how knows better. uh. who else? how about this? another voice says, unnamed . markets so easy to wear unnamed. markets so easy to wear a mask clean. new masks are safe and free of bacteria. uh but, uh, bindi says , i think that no uh, bindi says, i think that no one should be forced to wear a mask. it's a personal choice. okay folks, and what about the post office? does it have a future? should it be scrapped ? future? should it be scrapped? well, jan, in highlands says well, jan, in the highlands says mark, this could be the opportunity post opportunity to sell the post office probably to deutsche office off. probably to deutsche post and i really agree with nigel on this one. mark. the taxpayer should pay no compensation . those that need to compensation. those that need to recompense should be from those in post office who were in in the post office who were in charge and the owners of the software. nigel, thank you for that. i think you speak for many . it's that. i think you speak for many .wsfime that. i think you speak for many . it's time to discuss . it's time now to discuss what's happening in the red sea. the royal navy has announced it's been forced to decommission two hms westminster two warships, hms westminster and hms argyll, due to lack of sailors. meanwhile, the telegraph today report that

britain's aircraft carriers are not ready to be sent to the red sea because of the recruitment crisis engulfing the armed forces . we just don't have forces. we just don't have enough personnel to man these ships. so does the conflict in the red sea demonstrate that britain needs to invest more heavily its armed forces? heavily in its armed forces? we'll views of my top we'll get the views of my top pundh we'll get the views of my top pundit shortly, but first, let's speak to telegraph writer, foreign policy analyst and former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner . former aide to margaret thatcher, nile gardiner. nile, great to see you and wishing you a very happy 2024. what's your reaction to this news that the royal navy is so depleted in numbers ? numbers? >> uh, mark, great to see you. happy new year to you. and i think it's absolutely outrageous , of course, that the royal navy is declining in terms of its overall capability , i.e. its overall capability, i.e. its overall capability, i.e. its overall size . and as the overall size. and as the telegraph reported , uh, today, telegraph reported, uh, today, the uk is not able to send the queen elizabeth aircraft carrier over to the to the region to confront the, uh, the houthi threat because of a lack of

support, uh, vessels . and so support, uh, vessels. and so this is a terrible state of affairs for a nation with a very proud, uh, naval history. after all, the british at one stage had the most powerful navy in the world. and today they, uh, we are looking at, uh, significant overall weakness because of a lack of lack of funding. uh, huge problems , of funding. uh, huge problems, of course, in terms of recruitment , course, in terms of recruitment, uh, we need to invest more overall in british defence spending is currently around 2.2% of gdp. it should be, in my view, at the same level of the united states, which is around 3.5% of gdp . the us spends 12 3.5% of gdp. the us spends 12 times the british defence budget, even though, uh, the population of the united states is about five times that of the united kingdom. we need to united kingdom. so we need to see a greater sense of , of see a greater sense of, of seriousness, i think, from the british government with regard to overall defence spending . uh, to overall defence spending. uh, get rid of the useless foreign

aid budget that saves about £12 billion. that should all be invested in britain's defence at a time of heightened conflict on the world stage. and mendous, uh, threats , i think, to british uh, threats, i think, to british national security . national security. >> well, i'm glad you mentioned the percentage of our gross domestic product that goes on defence. as you said, it's about 2.2% at the moment. it should be higher. well, been looking higher. well, i've been looking back the history books, back into the history books, niall and in 1984, just after the falklands war, the uk's defence spending was 5.5% of the uk's gdp . mrs. thatcher, the uk's gdp. mrs. thatcher, the woman that you were an adviser to, understood the importance of military investment . military investment. >> yeah , absolutely. and it was >> yeah, absolutely. and it was margaret thatcher's view , of margaret thatcher's view, of course, that britain should be a world leader on the international stage and that the uk should be able to project might , power uk should be able to project might, power and strength across the world, which is exactly what she did with the falklands war.

and i think if, if, uh, the uk had to launch a similar style operation to the liberation of the falklands today , they it the falklands today, they it would be extremely difficult to do so. and i think it's absolutely shocking and appalling that today, with a conservative government, we are seeing the significant decline actually , of british military actually, of british military capability and the conservatives should be fully investing in defence. we need to have as well, i think, a mindset in downing street that believes that britain should lead on the world, on the world stage. you can't do that when you only spend 2, 2.2% of gdp on on defence, britain has to lead . defence, britain has to lead. uh, britain has to take on the likes of the houthis and potentially the iranian regime has to be able to take on russia , china, all of our adversaries , , china, all of our adversaries, of course, are investing heavily in their own their own defence. and we need to see really, uh, strong , bold british leadership strong, bold british leadership on the world stage, which is

matched by by a significantly higher level of investment in defence spending . defence spending. >> most definitely. we'll stay with us, nigel, because let's bnngin with us, nigel, because let's bring in my top pundits this evening, lady victoria harvey, chris wild and mike read . and, chris wild and mike read. and, uh, mike, do you think that britain should be spending more on the military, and if so, which other departmental budgets should it come out of? does it come out of the nhs? do we take it away from schools? these are tough political choices . tough political choices. >> well, they sent a third warship, haven't they . what is warship, haven't they. what is interesting in the red sea is they don't refer to them as russian warships getting through unscathed, but putin warships are getting through. he has become the country. um, yeah. i mean , they can't send aircraft mean, they can't send aircraft carriers because we haven't got the manpower or the staff to do it, which is crazy. i mean, we're pretty we're pretty understocked in the military side, general . i understocked in the military side, general. i think we understocked in the military side, general . i think we three side, general. i think we three warships out there, uh , but we warships out there, uh, but we haven't got a ship that can

monitor our own shores. bizarrely uh, as you know, after 27 days and bad weather, they're back again. so we haven't got a ship that can monitor that, but we can go out to the red sea and do it. but, yeah. third warship going out and, um. yeah, i mean, the thing is with, um, with houthi , they're siding with houthi, they're siding with hamas . so you've got that whole hamas. so you've got that whole volatile middle east thing going on there and they're they're on out there and they're they're the houthi cry is, you know, death to america, death to israel, curse on the jews. um, the satanic baha'i , uh, they the satanic baha'i, uh, they don't like, i mean, really , they don't like, i mean, really, they are they're pretty volatile. they're going for everybody, aren't they? >> uh, most definitely. i mean, victoria, the bottom line is the world getting more dangerous , world is getting more dangerous, so spending more so we should be spending more money on defence, shouldn't we? >> yeah. no, we should be. um, they really should be rich fruiting. um, a lot more . fruiting. um, a lot more. putting a lot more money into the armed forces. and, you know , the armed forces. and, you know, it's just doesn't make sense that they can't even find enough

sailors to be on those ships. um, especially right now when the world is so unstable and so many countries are in a war. we. this is the time where we really need to be. >> and victoria briefly, you lived in america for a long time. the americans understand the importance of the military, and respect their military and they respect their military veterans. than we do. >> um , you know, they do. >> um, you know, they do. >> um, you know, they do. >> but i wouldn't say they respect them any more than than what we do in, in, in england. um, you know, as an example , in um, you know, as an example, in america, they've got this immigration problem and people coming over the border from mexico, and then you've got veterans that will be homeless on the street in california that have been completely left by their country. and letting all these other people coming in. so i wouldn't say it's any different . different. >> uh, maria, i don't know if you're able to get the results of our text poll up, but the results are quite interesting. we've been asking, should britain involved in

britain be getting involved in another the middle another conflict in the middle east? results are in, east? well, the results are in, as i've said, i think you'll as i've said, and i think you'll be by the response be interested by the response because, uh, majority that's because, uh, a majority that's 67.2% say no, we shouldn't be getting involved, whilst 32.8% say yes. so chris wild, i mean, the counterargument to military spending is , uh, spend more on spending is, uh, spend more on the military. you're going to get more war, more human suffering and more death. yeah, i mean, i'm ex army. >> i joined the army in 1996, and when i joined the army, i was a care leaver. i had nothing to do. so i was kind of easily beguile into a false sense of security where i, you know, join the army, have a good life. and even then, when i joined, i think it was like 17 k for infantry soldiers. and even now the young people i speak to and i well, know, why don't i say, well, you know, why don't you into you go into the navy, go into the army, career, get the army, get a career, get a trade, 23 k that's the starting salary. and a lot of these young kids they that on kids now they can make that on on, yeah. and the on, on youtube. yeah. and the thing is as well is, you know, we of funding or we with the lack of funding or the lack of resources and that's

all down to this conservative government. it has been for years. but the most important thing is what you fighting thing is what are you fighting for? are these young people for? what are these young people fighting now? because fighting for now? because we've seen, has just said, seen, as victoria has just said, when in war, do you when you die in war, what do you get? absolutely nothing get? you get absolutely nothing from government. don't from this government. you don't get you don't get any get a house, you don't get any kind of special, benefits. kind of special, uh, benefits. so i get that conversation with young people. i see why people do not want to join the royal, the what does that the forces. and what does that make us vulnerable. make us? it makes us vulnerable. well and the rest of the well yes. and the rest of the world know that rest of the world know that the rest of the world know that the rest of the world how vulnerable world know how vulnerable we are right final right now. okay, well, final thoughts, nihal, if you can, my viewers and listeners are understandably very worried about nhs getting a gp about the nhs getting a gp appointment. about the nhs getting a gp appthey'reit. about the nhs getting a gp appthey're on a waiting list for >> they're on a waiting list for treatment . they're worried about treatment. they're worried about the quality of teaching in schools. they're worried about crime why should they be crime. why should they be worried about defence? >> well, i think the defence of the united kingdom is absolutely vital to the national interest and taking on the murderous huti terrorists , of course, i think

terrorists, of course, i think is in the british national interest. they are targeting large numbers of international ships in the red sea. they are destroying , disrupting destroying, disrupting international trade . they're international trade. they're threatening, i think western economies here. there's a clear national interest. and of course , they're backed by the murderous terrorist regime in iran, closely aligned, of course, with hamas . and so we course, with hamas. and so we have an interest in defeating the likes of the houthis . and the likes of the houthis. and also we have to confront as well the iranian regime , which is the iranian regime, which is a monstrous threat to global security, especially as they are developing a nuclear weapons capability . kc. capability. kc. >> niall, sobering words. great to have you back on the show. catch up soon. my thanks there to broadcaster, international journalist, defence analyst and former aide to margaret thatcher. nice gardiner. coming up, we've got mark meets. looking forward to this. one of britain's entrepreneurs britain's top entrepreneurs that's got a plan to end knife crime. he's

next. in just ten minutes time in my take at ten, the post office scandal proves that ordinary people don't stand a chance against the governing elite people. power is dead . that is, people. power is dead. that is, at 10:00. you won't want to miss it. i'm unearthing more horrors from that story. but first, mark meets . and this evening, the meets. and this evening, the ultimate rags to riches story with no real formal education and brought up from an underprivileged background, henry smith strived to put money on the table for his family, doing and milk rounds to doing paper and milk rounds to make ends meet. after a short spell in the marines as a teenager, he worked in sales and then in rental property. finally getting himself on the property ladder and he never looked back. he is the ceo of the highly successful property company h group, and whilst his passion for business remains following the tragic stabbing to death of his brother in law outside a takeaway in stratford in east london, he launched his own

campaign to try to combat knife crime on the streets. henry is a proud londoner, having been born in the east end himself. still lives there and he's founded the wickers charity , which provides lives there and he's founded the whubrs charity , which provides lives there and he's founded the whub forharity , which provides lives there and he's founded the whub for young which provides lives there and he's founded the whub for young people provides lives there and he's founded the whub for young people agedies lives there and he's founded the whub for young people aged 8. lives there and he's founded the whub for young people aged 8 to a hub for young people aged 8 to 18. henry's is an amazing story and i'm delighted to say he joins me now. hi, henry. >> hi. good evening. >> hi. good evening. >> lovely to have you. now, you were born silver were not born with a silver spoon in mouth . spoon in your mouth. >> we wasn't. i mean , >> no, but we wasn't. i mean, exactly poverty. that's for sure. we. i come from a background where there was poverty and that my father and mother's family, you know, one from 11 siblings, one from, i think 12 siblings. they were poon think 12 siblings. they were poor, you know, half irish, but you certainly weren't privileged. >> what age were you when you were going out to do paper rounds and milk rounds? oh, it's quite old, i was ten. >> goodness . i had three >> oh my goodness. i had three jobs. three jobs week. jobs. three jobs in a week. i mean, hasn't the world changed? >> you wouldn't let a ten year old to sweet shop now, old go to the sweet shop now, let alone do a job, would you? >> but absolutely loved it. >> but i absolutely loved it. i run of school. i to run out of school. i used to sell the papers at sell the papers in the road at the traffic lights. yeah yeah,

yeah. and i knew the cars that would the evening would give me the tip. evening news and evening standard . news and evening standard. >> well, there you go. so always entrepreneurial. was there anything upbringing anything in your upbringing that led career ? led to your successful career? >> the start it was that my >> the start of it was that my father managed to accumulate . father managed to accumulate. some money and lost it all. and so we experienced a nice home and then it all, it all went away and i'd i thought, well, i'd like to i'd like to get back there . there. >> that sort of stayed with you that the sort of big change in lifestyle your father devastated i'm sure. yeah, yeah , honestly. i'm sure. yeah, yeah, honestly. >> i mean, you know, it's a man's. it's a man's pride, isn't it? know. yeah it? you know. yeah >> ever. did he ever get >> did he ever. did he ever get over that financial loss? >> not completely. no, no, no, i must say so. >> you thought that won't happen to well probably won't to me? well probably won't happen along my happen to me, but along my journey i've had some journey in life, i've had some bumps the bumps in the road. >> know, we've had some >> you know, we've had some terrible recession yeah, terrible recession ins. yeah, but we're here. we're healthy. >> well, that's it. my dad suffered recession in suffered in the recession in 1990 and lost a lot, but kept

trading. and that's the key, isn't it? you've just got to survive. >> yeah it's. yeah they call it trading for cash. oh there you go. yeah. you've got to sell what got. get the cash what you've got. get the cash and keep moving. >> shocked about the >> i'm shocked to hear about the devastating brother devastating loss of your brother in to tell me in law. are you able to tell me a little bit about what happened? >> it was 42 years ago. uh when my sister a child. she was, my sister had a child. she was, uh, the baby months old. uh, the baby was 11 months old. she pregnant with another she was pregnant with another one, a three months. this is stratford, east london. in fact, it was his . one of his best it was his. one of his best mates. brothers it was his best mate's brother. right there was an argument in an indian restaurant, and it's just sad, you know, just. he got murdered over the argument. i believe , over the argument. i believe, over the argument. i believe, over a car. yeah. something about one car was sold and it wasn't quite what it was, but what it reverberates through. the families is, is incredible. you know, it changed my sister's life , changed my parents life . life, changed my parents life. um, my brother in law's parents, i mean, people, financial implications , financial implications, financial implications, financial implications , everything. i implications, everything. i

mean, who who then is going to support a single mother , you support a single mother, you know, one child, one on the way. fortunately you know, she she had my parents on that. but it can really affect i mean, it affects people. how is your sister getting on these days? she's passed. she was never the same. sorry to hear that. she died at 39 years of age. uh she i wouldn't say she was alcoholic, but she definitely took took alcohol a lot, and it just affected her. honestly, a legacy of that. yeah. >> and but her kids, you're obviously. i'm sure you're close to her kids now. >> i'm very proud. uh she she died in an accident with her younger son at. and, uh, she was surpassed by two girls that have turned out fantastic mothers. so, you know, they were all. >> should we give them a shout out? what? >> they. yeah they are, uh, nancy diana. so i'm really nancy and diana. so i'm really proud of them. yeah they could have completely have gone completely wrong. direction on. so. yeah. they're amazing. my amazing mums. >> done nancy. and well >> well done nancy. and well done diana. wonderful and listen, tell me about the charity up. this charity you set up. this charity. aim to do?

charity. what does it aim to do? >> well, obviously the headline is to try and prevent knife crime, but you've got to start at its roots and you've got to start in in the community, see, and there will be all sorts of ways that people will tell you this, you've got to bring this, but you've got to bring the children on board. what we're trying to do is literally in these boroughs, in the borough, we mostly work in hackney. step across the hackney. you step across the road are on the wrong road and you are on the wrong place . uh, sadly , i think you're place. uh, sadly, i think you're aware we had our youth . one of aware we had our youth. one of our youth workers, killed in december the 6th. uh you know, leon gould. and it was just terrible. um and she was trying to help, and she lost her life. it was a daughter's ex—boyfriend, i believe . rushed ex—boyfriend, i believe. rushed to the house. i don't know exactly what happened. trying to close the door. i mean, there you had a woman, for instance, who never had a lot, who had a disabled child but would come and would help out in all of the houday and would help out in all of the holiday periods. yeah i mean,

that's an amazing human individual to put that back . in individual to put that back. in >> it's extraordinary. and you, before you came on air, we talked about sometimes the lack of a male role model, um, poverty and a lack of community. some people join gangs so they can belong to something. >> well, when you think of it, if you are, whatever you're in, whether it's high rise or a whether it's a high rise or a home, and you've got no preps, father figure or mother figure , father figure or mother figure, you're going to go outside and then you're going to look to the guy who's got all the nice things on all the nice clothes. you going to be you know, you're going to be easily astray . easily led astray. >> well, let me tell you that you've really achieved two big things in your life your business and your charity business and now your charity work, your campaign against knife crime . wickers is the name knife crime. wickers is the name of the charity which occurs so people can go on there. they can find out what you do and if they've got a spare quid, can they've got a spare quid, can they chip in? >> i'd like them to do a bit more than a quid. there you go. yeah, well definitely. yeah, yeah. well definitely. >> definitely >> well i'll definitely participate in that myself. can

i been privilege to i say it's been a privilege to meet henry i look meet you, henry smith? i look forward catching forward to catching up with you again soon. >> much. >> thanks very much. >> thanks very much. >> brilliant. there you go. what a and what guy. henry a story. and what a guy. henry smith, the 10:00 smith, coming up in the 10:00 houn smith, coming up in the 10:00 hour. tomorrow's papers hot off the press the the press and at the post office. scandal that office. scandal proves that ordinary stand ordinary people don't stand a chance against the governing elite. dead . elite. people. power is dead. i've unearthed more horrors from this i'll be this debacle, which i'll be revealing in my take at ten in just a couple of minutes time. i urge you not to miss it. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsor of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey here with a gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. we've got a mixture of variable cloud and some clear spells to end this first half of the weekend, that is key weekend, and that is quite key in what conditions you in terms of what conditions you will where you do will see overnight. where you do see those clearer see some of those clearer spells, could just spells, temperatures could just drop a touch with some drop off a touch with some pockets frost developing pockets of frost developing mist and well. but and fog patches as well. but those hold on to the those areas that hold on to the cloud probably cloud will probably see temperatures just hold up

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well -- well . good evening. well. good evening. >> it's 10:00 well. good evening. >> it's10:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom. and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten, the post office scandal proves that ordinary people don't stand a chance against the governing elite. people power is dead. i've unearthed more horrors from this debacle , which i shall reveal in debacle, which i shall reveal in just a couple of minutes. we haven't even seen the start of it moving revelations about queen elizabeth's last days have emerged. i'll get full reaction from america's top royal expert, kinsey schofield plus tomorrow's

newspaper front pages . and live newspaper front pages. and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. three individuals who have been told what to say and haven't been told what to do. a packed show, lots to get through. but first, the headlines the news headlines and tatiana sanchez. >> mark thank you. your top stories from the gb newsroom. nine arrests were made during a pro—palestine rally through central london today. those arrests were made for alleged offences, including inciting racial hatred, a suspected racially aggravated public order offence and on suspicion of support for a proscribed organisation . thousands of organisation. thousands of people turned out calling for a ceasefire in gaza. 1700 police officers were deployed onto the streets of the capital. the foreign secretary says britain is ready to strike the houthi rebels again if attacks on the

red sea continue . writing in the red sea continue. writing in the telegraph, lord cameron says the government has sent an unambiguous message to the houthis , saying their attacks houthis, saying their attacks have to stop . it comes have to stop. it comes as yemen's rebels earlier yemen's houthi rebels earlier promised a strong effective promised a strong and effective response following a fresh strike by the united states overnight. the us says it was a follow up to a joint uk mission targeting houthi positions . a targeting houthi positions. a former postmistress who's planning to run against sarah ed davey at the next general election says he must be brought to justice. the lib dem leader was the postal affairs minister dunng was the postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal, but has refused to apologise or take any accountability for his inaction. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after faulty software led to shortfalls in subpostmasters accounts . sir ed subpostmasters accounts. sir ed says he was lied to by the post office on an industrial scale while speaking exclusive to gb news, yvonne tracy says she felt compelled to take a stand. >> i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster

who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey , but i stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably there confidence is not and they probably are fed up to death with the government, etc. so i thought it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel . i have to do something and this is all i can do. i think he should be brought to account. >> around 150 migrants have been intercepted in the channel, ending the extended . pause in ending the extended. pause in crossings on board three small boats. they're the first to make the treacherous journey since the treacherous journey since the 16th of september. that's the 16th of september. that's the longest period without any migrant four migrant arrivals for almost four years. bad weather years. it's thought bad weather may more people may have prevented more people from channel over from crossing the channel over the weeks . a landslide the past few weeks. a landslide in the northwest of colombia has hit, has killed at least 23 people, of whom most are children. at least 35 people have also been injured after the mudslide, which was brought on by heavy rain covered a busy highway that connects cities

highway that connects the cities of quito medellin. force of quito and medellin. force people close by to stop their cars and take shelter. the efforts to rescue bodies and survivors are still ongoing , and survivors are still ongoing, and the league one football match had to be abandoned today after around 1000, redding home fans invaded the pitch at the start of the game was interrupted for three minutes when tennis balls were thrown onto the pitch . the were thrown onto the pitch. the referee then had to take players off after just 16 minutes played, took to the played, as home fans took to the field, with some setting off flares. many redding supporters want owner to sell the club, want the owner to sell the club, which is currently fourth from the bottom in the third tier, following sanctions imposed by the efl . this following sanctions imposed by the efl. this. is gb news across the efl. this. is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital . the uk on tv in your car, on digital. radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . mark

now back to. mark >> thanks to my good friend tatiana sanchez, who returns in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight, your perfect saturday night in what, an hour? i've for moving i've got for you moving revelations about queen elizabeth's last days have emerged. i'll full reaction emerged. i'll get full reaction from royal expert from america's top royal expert kinsey schofield. plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits campaign . and author chris wild campaign. and author chris wild says socialite and tv personality lady victoria harvey and television and radio legend mike reid. three top pundits who don't follow the script and who haven't been told what to say . haven't been told what to say. plus, they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes of the day a packed houn page zeroes of the day a packed hour. those papers are coming. but first, my take at ten. the post office scandal is a corporate 9/11, and the second tower hasn't even fallen yet. we're still coming to terms with

the extraordinary scale of this crime. we may never fully process it or unearth the unspoken private grief and pain of so many involved. whilst the heroic alan bates, who fought back against the system and who'll never have to buy a pint again , has come out a hero with again, has come out a hero with over 700 people prosecuted , most over 700 people prosecuted, most of the stories will go unreported and fall by the wayside. the depression , the wayside. the depression, the anxiety, the physical health symptoms, the insomnia brought about by 24 over seven worry and the public shame. the humiliation destroyed reputations, lost friendships , reputations, lost friendships, broken families, the financial injury, credit card bills, bank loans, life savings , eviscerated loans, life savings, eviscerated bankruptcy . me. well done to the bankruptcy. me. well done to the prime minister for announcing that he'll rapidly exonerate all of those accused . but whilst of those accused. but whilst it's only an up front payment, £75,000 is still an embarrassing , feeble figure given that the post office took away a chunk of

these people's lives, it took away their health, took away their financial security, took away their dignity, took away their reputation, and took away a business to which they were committed and which they loved . committed and which they loved. if this was happening in america , every single victim would now be a multi—millionaire. whatever they get here just won't be enough. they get here just won't be enough . and of course, no amount enough. and of course, no amount of money will repair the damage, particularly for those who took their own lives or have died since happened . here's the since this happened. here's the amazing nikki arch, who was wrongly accused by the post office and who bravely told me her story on wednesday . take her story on wednesday. take a listen. >> 20s when it happened, i'm now in my 50s as, um . and the fight in my 50s as, um. and the fight carries on, you know, it just doesn't go away. we sold our house. it is a ridiculously cheap price, so we could get the hell out of that. that hamlet, because everybody was talking about it to the point i went to the supermarket and got spat at and it was all in my hair from

three ladies outside. >> nikki had to get medically retired at the age of 49. there were so many adjectives you could use to describe this horrific scandal, which only came to the attention of the political class after an itv drama air. but there is one adjective that i think is highly appropriate dark on the horizon. it inquiry heard this week that post office investigate is the kind of heavies that you'd expect to see in a martin scorsese film, behaved like mafia gangsters. and as each day passes, it becomes clear we haven't heard the half of it. the telegraph today report . the the telegraph today report. the story of robin garbutt, who has spent the last 12 years in jail after being convicted in 2011 of the of his wife diana , at the murder of his wife diana, at their above the post their home above the post office. they ran together in melsonby in north yorkshire . now melsonby in north yorkshire. now robin protests his innocence and says that the post office produced evidence against him

using the horizon it system to show that he was stealing money to fund an extravagant lifestyle . without the post office honzon . without the post office horizon evidence, then a huge part of the motive for the murder and the manner in which it allegedly happened disappears as well . now, this guy might be as well. now, this guy might be guilty, but it's also just possible that there's a man in prison wrongly convicted of murder because of the lies of the post office. at the very least, give the man a full retrial and put that pathetic honzon retrial and put that pathetic horizon software evidence in the shredder . horizon software evidence in the shredder. this story has achieved something rare. it's made me ashamed to be british. we now live in a computer, says no society where ordinary people have absolutely no say. a friend of mine received a text message from their bank a week ago saying, we have reduced your overdraft to zero. now this friend has been running their account perfectly for 20 years. no negotiation , no one to speak

no negotiation, no one to speak to, to reconsider the decision made. lovely . to, to reconsider the decision made. lovely. timing, don't you think? january just when you got christmas to pay for an a tax bill to settle by the end of the month, our increasingly technology dominated society means that you need your smartphone , an app and a degree smartphone, an app and a degree in computer science just to park your bloody car. the phone company won't give you a paper bill anymore. fewer places take cash. and whether it's a problem with broadband or a dress with your broadband or a dress that you've bought that doesn't fit , there's never anyone to fit, there's never anyone to speak to. the powers that be in this . have a crushing this country. have a crushing contempt for the little guy, for ordinary folk, for the great british public. we've even seen it with our democracy . vote for it with our democracy. vote for brexit, then the establishment tried to reverse it. start a tv . tried to reverse it. start a tv. network like this one. gb news aimed at representing you, the people. and they try to cancel it. they still are covid tyranny saw people locked up, masked and jabbed against their will. allowed agency to allowed no personal agency to face the as they saw

face the disease as they saw fit. i think a post office style reckoning is coming down the line for government scientists. insane age and the actions of civil servants and government ministers . as with complaints ministers. as with complaints about horizon software, about the horizon software, voices of dissent during covid and those of us who said lockdowns and masking were insane then were silenced, vilified and crushed. and whilst the vaccine was hopefully safe for most, government experts are clear it saved countless lives. what about attacks on the people injured by the jab, especially those who statistically didn't need it? that's another scandal coming. watch this space and post pandemic. it's clear that our lives are now run by a corporate and bureaucratic elite, egged on by a compliant and complicit media. with the voices of ordinary folk unheard. this is a scandal of untold proportions and demonstrates that people power is dead . like that people power is dead. like post office hero alan bates. perhaps it's time we fight back .

perhaps it's time we fight back. people power is dead. i think the post office scandal demonstrates that the corporates and technocratic elite that run this country think nothing of the public. we are just speck of dust market gb news. com let me know your thoughts. let's hear from my top pundits right now. campaign and author, campaigner and author chris wilde. socialite and personality socialite and tv personality lady victoria harvey and radio dj and writer mike reid . dj and writer mike reid. victoria, your reaction to the post office scandal ? post office scandal? >> um, i think it's terrible. post office scandal? >> um, i think it's terrible . i >> um, i think it's terrible. i think 75,000 per person is not enough for people that have lost their lives. i mean, there's four suicides. people lost their homes, people lost their mortgages . homes, people lost their mortgages. um, i don't think, you know, exonerating them obviously should be done to everyone, but there should be like , serious repercussions for like, serious repercussions for this . this. >> definitely. victoria, you lived in the states for a long

time. if this happened in america, all of the victims would be multi—millionaires by how. >> now. >> oh, yeah. totally. i mean, you know, there america, you sue for anything. so so, um, i just, you know, these people literally lost their lives . they lost lost their lives. they lost everything that they had. their homes , their livelihoods, being homes, their livelihoods, being able to get another job, you know, that they were tarnished . know, that they were tarnished. so 75 k on that. i just don't think that is enough. >> chris wild i think we're seeing the slow death of people power. what do you think? >> disagree you, >> i disagree with you, mark. i'm afraid i'm a campaigner. i you challenge you know, i challenge politicians, i challenge policies what see from policies. and what we see from this we've across this is we've seen unity across the . that one tv program the country. that one tv program has brought us all together and you know what it's about. it's about pushing back. now, this is about pushing back. now, this is a revolution . we had it with a revolution. we had it with hillsborough. we've it with a revolution. we had it with hillsyou»ugh. we've it with a revolution. we had it with hillsyou»ugh. vs01e it with a revolution. we had it with hillsyou»ugh. vso many it with a revolution. we had it with hillsyou»ugh. vso many different the, you know, so many different scandals, infected blood scandal . yeah, exactly. >> exactly. cladding scandal. >> exactly. cladding scandal. >> exactly. cladding scandal. >> exactly. so this now is brought it to fruition. the people have had enough. mark. i travel the country campaigning . travel the country campaigning. enoughis

travel the country campaigning. enough is enough . enough is enough. >> okay, mike. mike reid , what >> okay, mike. mike reid, what do you think about this notion that got that it's the that i've got that it's the ordinary folk that have no voice anymore in our increasingly technocratic world? >> well, i think they have a voice because came out on tv voice because he came out on tv in series. mean, as, uh, in this series. i mean, as, uh, as as radio laureate, i wrote a pithy piece only, mike. >> only after a big itv series. these people were ignored for a decade. no i know what you mean. >> we are led by computers. um a well known breakdown service . i well known breakdown service. i broke down about six weeks ago. i get texts every day saying we're on our way. i get texts every day saying we're on our way . they're we're on our way. they're blindly following a computer. they've been on their way for six uh, so they're six weeks. uh, so they're blindly following the computer. i was going to say the interesting thing about it was, uh. did a poem about it on uh. and i did a poem about it on the radio during the week that the radio during the week that the honcho, was adam the head honcho, uh, was adam crozier, of once of the crozier, of course, once of the faa , uh, then became head faa, uh, and then became head honcho at itv. and surprising the itv four part series did not mention adam crozier. that's strange .

strange. >> yeah. most definitely. uh, listen, where did you break down in your ferrari, then? >> it was a mental breakdown. uh >> it was a mental breakdown. uh >> uh, listen, if you're waiting for the aa or the rac, you go to text him. don't you know who i am? i'm radio and tv legend. mike reid. um, listen, folks, i want to get your thoughts on this. does the post office scandal demonstrate that the ruling elite have total contempt for ordinary folk? let me know your thoughts, mark at gbviews@gbnews.com. lots more to come, including. next up, moving revelations queen revelations about queen elizabeth's last days have emerged. i'll get full reaction from america's top royal pundit kinsey schofield . plus, the kinsey schofield. plus, the papers are on the way . you're papers are on the way. you're watching mark dolan tonight on gb news. i'll see

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schofield kinsey. great to have you the show. we missed you back on the show. we missed you back on the show. we missed you hugely last week and we can reflect that. well, it's great to have you back and reflecting on the late , great queen on the late, great queen elizabeth the second and a new book which details her final days. >> that's right. mark these new details are found within this brand new book called charles the third new king, new court the inside story by robert hardman. hardman had access to queen elizabeth's personal aides memo at the moment of her death at balmoral castle in september of 2022, which stated that the queen died peacefully in her sleep. it stressed that that she wouldn't have been aware . of wouldn't have been aware. of anything and wouldn't have had anything and wouldn't have had any pain. the book also reveals that king charles was on his way back to balmoral from his nearby estate, when he received the news mother's death. it news of his mother's death. it was during that phone call, mark, he was referred to as mark, that he was referred to as your majesty for the first time at age 73, the queen left a

sealed deathbed letter for not only king charles, but her private . secretary sir edward private. secretary sir edward young, and hardman writes, we will probably never know what was within the pages of those letters, but it is proof that the queen had known that the end was imminent and had planned accordingly. >> most definitely, robert hardman is a fantastic royal author , isn't he? and he's got author, isn't he? and he's got great connections . he writes great connections. he writes with fabulous authority . and the with fabulous authority. and the really good news from this book is that it seems the queen did not suffer in her final hours. that's right. >> i think that that's the biggest takeaway . that is what biggest takeaway. that is what everyone that i've been talking to kind of exchanged, because there was . charles brandreth's there was. charles brandreth's book that revealed that, according to gyles , the queen according to gyles, the queen was suffering from a form of bone cancer. so that is typically a very painful experience. there was debate around time book around the time of that book being about what kind being released about what kind

of she was in, so to hear of a pain she was in, so to hear she died peacefully , pain free she died peacefully, pain free is very important to us. but there are other interesting details in this book, mark one specifically contradicts prince harry's version of events in spare. it's that catherine, the princess of wales, had chosen to stay behind to be with her children , when to see them off children, when to see them off to school . um, that was to school. um, that was a conscious decision that she made for her and her family. this conflicts with harry's suggestion that she was told to stay back by king charles, to justify meghan's lack of an invitation, which is what harry says in spare. it's important to note that while catherine stayed back to support her babies, meghan was thousands of miles away from hers in the uk to accept another participation trophy. most definitely. >> i wouldn't doubt catherine's motives for one second. i think she was dignified throughout that very sad period. let's talk about our new queen. queen camilla, and a podcast . tell me camilla, and a podcast. tell me

more . more. >> yeah, camilla is the queen's reading room podcast. well it's receiving mixed reviews . mark. receiving mixed reviews. mark. there's some criticism from from the guardian over its format. author stuart heritage pokes fun over the queen's uh la lack of appearances. i mean, she kind of p0p5 up appearances. i mean, she kind of pops up at the very end, but he says she's barely there. the journalist jokes that the podcast is a deeply generic author interview podcast where camilla sort of, you know, just inserts herself randomly . um, inserts herself randomly. um, but i would stress that podcasts are a huge risk for the royal family. i think she needs to tread lightly so that she doesn't overshare so that she doesn't, you know, so she doesn't, you know, so she doesn't disrupt the mystery surrounding the royal family and a lot of podcasts take time to find their groove. so hopefully the queen's team will listen to some of this feedback. >> yeah. i mean, if you want to, if you want to hear a good podcast and learn the best, podcast and learn from the best, you listen for you should listen to die for daily, your podcast at

daily, which is your podcast at kinsey, which is full of royal exclusives and you are a natural broadcaster , as know. broadcaster, as we well know. um, you think camilla is um, how do you think camilla is doing moment? doing at the moment? are you happy with her performance? i know it sticks the craw for know it sticks in the craw for you calling queen, you to be calling her queen, because feel diana because you feel that diana should and should be our queen. and of course with you, but of course i agree with you, but of course, that's ancient history. now, appraisal of now, what's your appraisal of her tenure as as the her short tenure as as the monarch's other half ? monarch's other half? >> i think she's doing a great job. i think that she is the perfect companion for king charles. she talks him off a ledge sometimes. we know he's got that windsor mountbatten kind of, um, fury , that spark kind of, um, fury, that spark that we sometimes hear about william having to. and i think that she keeps him calm , keeps that she keeps him calm, keeps him focussed on what's important . and i think that she is he would probably credit for her a lot of the positive response he's seen over the last year. plus as well, since he's become king, have you forgiven her? yeah, i forgave her a long time

ago. yeah. we're good. we're on good terms. can she's moved on? >> can we talk about one last thought on catherine? she turned 42 this week . thought on catherine? she turned 42 this week. is she thought on catherine? she turned 42 this week . is she the perfect 42 this week. is she the perfect princess? oh, i thought you were going to say, like, what must her diet and exercise routine look like? >> because she looks like she's 21. which i would say, absolutely. just whatever is it? ozempic. find it. um, no, ozempic. i will find it. um, no, i think she's a beautiful woman. she is incredibly strong she is an incredibly strong individual have individual model. um, there have been really ugly things said individual model. um, there have been |hery ugly things said individual model. um, there have been |her andly things said individual model. um, there have been |her and heriings said individual model. um, there have been |her and her familyaid individual model. um, there have been |her and her family over about her and her family over the last few years, and we have noidea the last few years, and we have no idea what she thinks about it. and me, that's got to be it. and to me, that's got to be so . i would would be so hard. i would i would be crying. would be calling crying. i would be calling everybody in the media everybody up in the media saying, i need to correct this story. this headline is untrue. we never hear from she we never hear from her. she just, know, shows up just, you know, shows up with a brave looking like $1 brave face looking like $1 million, uh, is kind and sweet and considerate with everybody she encounters. and i think that, you know, she is somebody

that, you know, she is somebody that little girls can look up to. so she is the perfect princess. >> what makes her marriage with william tick? >> oh, what makes it tick? i don't know , i mean, i think that don't know, i mean, i think that what makes it work is the fact that they both have the same goals and they both have the same passions , and there is same passions, and there is a clear vision at the end, which is what i don't think what i think harry and meghan's lacks. so i think that it's the fact that they both know what the ultimate objective is. and so they they work their way towards that. i don't i think that they know each other like the back of their hands. i don't think that there's any drama really behind there's any drama really behind the scenes. and do think the scenes. and do you think the love to, know, oh love continues to, you know, oh my gosh, of love burns. my gosh, fire of love burns. look at those two. look you can just tell by the way that they look at each other that they definitely still open mouth kiss l, definitely still open mouth kiss i, i said it here first. i definitely think that there there is some smooching going on. >> it's all kicked off. family

show. all had show. kinsey. we've all had a drink. can about drink. um, can we talk about prince harry? he a living prince harry? is he a living legend of aviation? >> right . >> all right. >> all right. >> this one's hard to digest, but the living legends of aviation . awards, they are aviation. awards, they are honounng aviation. awards, they are honouring prince harry next week in beverly hills. these awards are produced by the kitty hawk air academy. it's a non—profit with a mission to spark children's interest in aviation , children's interest in aviation, in which is interesting . in which is interesting. according to their website, the awards are meant to highlight people who have made , um, i people who have made, um, i don't know, various contributions to the field , like contributions to the field, like pilots who become celebrities or celebrities who become pilots . i celebrities who become pilots. i want to stress previous honourees are william shatner and kenny g. okay, so i don't know how seriously anybody can take this , but in response . on take this, but in response. on the response online, just the internet internetting is hilarious. flop gun immediately started like top gun started trending like top gun with somebody posting i feel the need, the need for weed . but the need, the need for weed. but the telegraph that harry and

telegraph reports that harry and meghan expected to attend meghan are expected to attend the awards ceremony, so something for us to forward to. >> well, let me tell you that i think that prince harry is a living legend of aviation. he's a more important than buzz a lot more important than buzz aldrin or the wright brothers, who invented flight, which is why i have created an exclusive mark dolan tonight paper aeroplane made from tonight's running order of the show . and running order of the show. and this is for harry. that's his award. i'm just going to throw it towards california and montecito. there you go . not too montecito. there you go. not too bad. bit of a crash landing . bad. bit of a crash landing. like this interview. kinsey we'll see you in a week's time. happy new year. the brilliant kinsey schofield coming up next. tomorrow's papers with

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widdecombe and many other treats as looking forward to that as well. looking forward to that mark tomorrow from mark dolan tonight tomorrow from nine. 1030 and nine. but it's1030 now and tomorrow's pages . we start tomorrow's front pages. we start with the dependents and, uh, olivia petter, one of their writers. can a man and a woman ever just be friends or will sex always get in the way? i'll have to ask chris wilder about that in a minute. i hope it doesn't affect our friendship. chris um, also, yemen also, starmer backs yemen bombing and terror bombing and warns terror sponsors iran that more action is on the way . sponsors iran that more action is on the way. sunday sponsors iran that more action is on the way . sunday express is on the way. sunday express minister jale post office bullies lock them up , says tory bullies lock them up, says tory as fury mounts over cruel hounding of subpostmasters. a ministers minister has called for post office chiefs behind the scandal that ruined the lives innocent workers to be lives of innocent workers to be jailed . also, sharon osborne's jailed. also, sharon osborne's tough love for harry and meghan . tough love for harry and meghan. the mail now royal exclusive secret summits over making

charles regents in queens last years and more revelations from the book that everybody's talking about . the book that everybody's talking about. but the book that everybody's talking about . but also the book that everybody's talking about. but also is . the talking about. but also is. the ministry of, uh , uh, let me ministry of, uh, uh, let me forget. oh forgive me, i've gone completely mad. the mail on sunday identifies a jamaican thug.the sunday identifies a jamaican thug. the home secretary berates the do gooders who the plane mutiny do gooders who thwarted removal. farce of thwarted his removal. farce of gangster gunmen. we can't deport. so let me give you this story briefly. a gun toting jamaican gangster who opened fire on a busy street in broad daylight, dodged deportation after a mutiny by airline passengers, according to the mail on sunday. the newspaper first reported the revolt on a british airways flight at gatwick in november, but the home secretary refused to disclose the identity of the criminal involved or detail his convictions. sunday telegraph uk ready to strike houthis again . ready to strike houthis again. says lord cameron. the foreign secretary still got to get used to name checking david cameron again . is it 2010? sadly not again. is it 2010? sadly not rwanda. bill must be strengthened or we will kill it

off. tory spartans warn sunak and blair told ditching horizon would anger . japan, the foreign would anger. japan, the foreign office warns sir tony blair that scrapping the horizon scheme would damage relations with japan. would damage relations with japan . whilst tony blair was japan. whilst tony blair was prime minister. the observer red sea crisis could shatter economic . recovery hopes world economic. recovery hopes world bank warns on growth and inflation. threat rises of global trade disruption also plan to reform use of private prosecutions in the light of the post office scandal. sun on sunday exclusive lover speaks i had to tell kyle's wife the truth, model lauren goodman has told of the traumatic moment she revealed to kyle walker's wife, annie, that she'd secretly fathered a second child with her. my goodness, i can't keep up with that story, but good luck to everyone involved. the daily sunday gypsy king daily star sunday gypsy king dad, i'm haunted by spooks and brace yourself for the big freeze beast from the north to hit today. brass monkeys, beware winter is about to get really,

really cold with temperatures dropping to minus 13. snow storms all over the country and wind chill making it feel even colder. let's get reaction from my top pundits tonight. delighted to have author and campaigner chris wild, socialite and tv personality lady victoria harvey, and radio and television legend mike read. victoria that's bad news about the weather. —13 when you need to go back to california, don't you? >> i'm just sort of acclimatising to it. i was in barbados so it is a little bit of a shock to the system right now. just a bit. but it's now. yeah, just a bit. but it's okay. >> how do you keep warm at home on night? on a cold night? >> keeps harvey toasty ? >> what keeps the harvey toasty? >> what keeps the harvey toasty? >> well, actually, my mother got me an electric blanket recently, but i haven't had to use a moment . moment. >> it's a moment in your life? >> it's a moment in your life? >> yes. coming of age. wow next will be a hot water bottle. >> i'm actually pretty warm at home. um, you know, it's not so bad. dog keeps me warm. bad. bad dog keeps me warm. >> reid, know us bad. bad dog keeps me warm. >> need?id, know us bad. bad dog keeps me warm. >> need? you know us bad. bad dog keeps me warm.

>> need? you need ow us bad. bad dog keeps me warm. >> need? you need the us bad. bad dog keeps me warm. >> need? you need the giantrs boys need? you need the giant single slipper that you just step into. >> you've seen those in the back of magazines ? slipper? of magazines? slipper? >> yeah, i've got one them. >> yeah, i've got one of them. >> yeah, i've got one of them. >> have a one? i bet you >> you have a one? i bet you have a one. >> i have a onesie. >> uh, well, i always take protection, mike reid, protection, but, um, mike reid, can about all these can we talk about all these different in the papers? different stories in the papers? so sink our teeth into. so many to sink our teeth into. but fresh but we start with this fresh material the mail on material from the mail on sunday. farce of a gangster gunman. deport it. so, gunman. we can't deport it. so, just to reiterate, a gun toting jamaican gangster who opened fire on a busy street in broad daylight dodged deportation after a mutiny by deluded and probably ultra woke airline passengers . i mean, this is passengers. i mean, this is misguided in the extreme , isn't it? >> i'm not sure what the airline passengers have to do with it. was he on? was he boarded on? yeah. >> what happened is he was being shipped out of the country on a domestic flight, a commercial flight, and somehow they've, uh, not full details of flight, and somehow they've, uh, not guy's full details of flight, and somehow they've, uh, not guy's case. ull details of flight, and somehow they've, uh, not guy's case. there's ils of flight, and somehow they've, uh, not guy's case. there's oh, »f this guy's case. there's oh, this guy's case. there's oh, this poor man's been deported. we're he we're going to make sure he isn't .

isn't. >> how did they know he's being deported? surely they i, i would imagine he under police guard. >> well, he would have >> yeah, well, he would have been cuffed, wouldn't he, chris? >> course. and i'm >> yeah, of course. and i'm guessing have been guessing he would have been telling this is the thing telling people this is the thing as well. these know as well. these people know if they kind they speak up in these kind of open people will open environments, people will protect them well, think. protect them as well, i think. and i they use that. it's and i think they use that. it's not we've heard not the first story we've heard of not. it's similar. i of it. it's not. it's similar. i think it was naomi campbell and someone else who stopped somebody. i think it was a rapist. yes. they him rapist. yes. they stopped him from time. from being deported last time. he was the plane. they took he was on the plane. they took him plane? yeah. he was on the plane. they took hina plane? yeah. he was on the plane. they took hina pl'people ah. he was on the plane. they took hina pl'people found out >> a group of people found out that was. he was quite young. that he was. he was quite young. >> he about 17. i think he >> he was about 17. i think he was deported. um, so was being deported. and um, so people you know, people were chanting, you know, take him off the plane. was take him off the plane. it was later was later revealed that he was involved a gang rape. involved in a gang rape. >> right. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> problem about these >> and the problem about these things is you know, people think that they're doing the best thing and they think, oh, this is with someone being is to do with someone being racist, whatever. nothing is to do with someone being ra> is a criminal, and >> someone is a criminal, and they've something wrong . they've done something wrong. >> doesn't matter what colour of skin you, you just don't know the that's it.

the full facts. that's it. correct >> f- f— >> but what does it say, mike, about our society that people could be that deluded? >> it's interesting. i mean, on the channel islands you just get booted off the next day . if you booted off the next day. if you do something wrong, you get booted off. you don't come back. here. we don't seem to be able to do that. we don't have the capacity or the common sense to say, right, you . go, i mean, and say, right, you. go, i mean, and who . are the people on the plane who. are the people on the plane to say , no, he stays. i mean, to say, no, he stays. i mean, that's crazy how doesn't this tell us, victoria, about the sort of culture of virtue signalling that we've got? >> i'm sure there's people on flight thought they were really wonderful. hashtag be kind people. >> yeah, like these annoying people that we had during covid that all thought, oh, you're going to kill your grandmother if you get the vaccine. if you don't get the vaccine. you these ridiculous kind you know, these ridiculous kind of things. >> i understand . and sometimes >> i understand. and sometimes if haven't done anything if people haven't done anything wrong of course i get i get wrong and of course i get i get the argument treated like

criminals is different. >> of course. >> of course. >> but it is approved, i >> but if it is approved, i agree with and you work agree with you. and you work with refugees, don't you? >> do my work. i work with >> i do my work. i work with loads albania, loads of refugees from albania, from syria, and lot these from syria, and a lot of these people are great people. they've never in never done anything wrong in their lives and they come here for, future. and their lives and they come here for, not future. and their lives and they come here for, not a future. and their lives and they come here for, not a scarye. and their lives and they come here for, not a scary thing. i you're not a scary thing. i think i've mentioned mentioned you're not a scary thing. i thin before. |entioned mentioned you're not a scary thing. i thin before. a1tioned mentioned you're not a scary thing. i thin before. a lotned mentioned you're not a scary thing. i thin before. a lot ofi mentioned you're not a scary thing. i thin before. a lot of these :ioned this before. a lot of these people come here and they want to they met to go back home because they met with hostility, which is with so much hostility, which is true, right? >> there's definitely a lot of a lot at lot of tension, of course, at the moment around that story. um, ready to strike houthis um, uk ready to strike houthis again, cameron, and again, says lord cameron, and worries about the worries chris wild about the impact have the impact it may have on the economy. this matters economy. that's why this matters to viewers and listeners, to my viewers and listeners, isn't it? of course it is. that inflation could come back, or we could even see a recession as a result of this. yeah, and look, i work in a community. >> i work on streets and >> i work on the streets and people are constantly anxious and constantly nervous. you know, i see recession on a different level. i see people so poor right now. you know, i speak to young people in the care sector who don't have

anything. i go into families and see kids eating crisps and stuff , and that for me is such a worry. and then we see worry. and then when we see stuff which is gonna stuff like this, which is gonna then add, add to the then just add, add to the downfall what, downfall of our economy, what, what future look like? what does the future look like? it's incentive. it's really scary incentive. >> think if they have >> i think if they have incentive, great. it's incentive, that's great. if it's a chance to do a chance for them to do something to get something, to go but go somewhere that's fine. but when incentive, when there's no incentive, that's. definitely. that's. yeah most definitely. >> that's real real >> that's a that's real a real issue. >> @ m ust t- >> rwanda bill must be strengthened will kill it strengthened or we will kill it off. worn sunak off. tori parton's worn sunak how see playing out? how do you see this playing out? do how do you see this playing out? d0 will see flights do you think we will see flights taking election? taking off before the election? >> flights taking >> mike read see flights taking off rwanda. off to rwanda. >> do think it'll. because >> do you think it'll. because that's politically that's the politically significant if significant moment, isn't it? if flights election? flights go, is the election? well, november. well, probably november. >> wonder >> yeah. so i just wonder whether of whether the significance of the first flights going would first rwanda flights going would be a victory for sunak. >> but i also wonder whether that will happen. >> scoring now >> it's all point scoring now between now and whenever it is. >> sort of like who >> it's just sort of like who can one up on? >> there's no victory for the conservatives. destroyed conservatives. they've destroyed themselves for the next 100 years. what years. so it doesn't matter what what he does now up until the general election, you need a magic wand to him. magic wand to rescue him. >> think labour

>> and do you not think labour will exactly same problems? >> well, of course, but i think they're going to deal with a they're going to deal with it a lot differently. i think, lot differently. and i think, you is problem. you know, there is a problem. there's with. there's need to be dealt with. but sending people to rwanda, which do you think they would have done instead? >> think they would have? >> do you think they would have? i should have had i mean, we just should have had stronger shouldn't i mean, we just should have had stronge invest shouldn't i mean, we just should have had stronge invest invest shouldn't i mean, we just should have had stronge invest invest shmorei't exactly invest invest in more stuff home office assessment exactly invest invest in more stuff is ome office assessment exactly invest invest in more stuff is just office assessment exactly invest invest in more stuff is just office assesit'sznt centres is just a gimmick. it's just ridiculous. ridiculous really. the really. of course it's stop the boats. like maybe just have the weather freezing cold the weather freezing cold all the time so they can't come a colossal amount of money. >> , you're powerful, >> victoria, you're powerful, but i don't think you're that powerful. >> amount of money they've spent without i without anybody going there. i mean, build mean, it's you could build houses people . the houses and feed people. the money be to turkey money be given to turkey colossal. >> the prime minister would argue that it's more than the opposition are offering by way of solution. the idea is of a solution. and the idea is it's an incentive. so rwanda doesn't involve hundreds of thousands of people being shipped out there. it's the idea when a few go, that will be a disincentive to all the others. that's the of rwanda . that's the idea of rwanda. >> but it's the money they've lost on it. >> of course it's just. >> of course it's just. >> but it's the idea that it is telling everybody else, don't

come going to come here because we're going to ship you off. >> it doesn't work. >> it doesn't work. >> it doesn't work. >> victoria, i again, i >> victoria, i mean, again, i keep about time keep mentioning about your time in were there in america, but you were there for how long? >> there about 17 years. >> i was there about 17 years. >> i was there about 17 years. >> were there long >> and you were there long enough to a big change enough to see a big change in borders in america. enough to see a big change in borand in america. enough to see a big change in borand moment:a. enough to see a big change in borand moment now it >> and at the moment now it looks open borders. so this looks like open borders. so this isn't just a uk problem, is it? >> no not. no, >> yeah. no it's not. no, actually it's a us actually i mean it's been a us problem longer than it's problem way longer than it's been over here. um, been a problem over here. um, you know, wall built to you know, that wall was built to keep people out you keep keep people out and, you know, like me, like know, someone like me, like i had to get my visa legally, you know , everyone had to do that. know, everyone had to do that. and it's quite a hard process . and it's quite a hard process. and it's quite a hard process. and then you see these people just literally walking over the border just being given border and just being given everything. know, everything. yeah. and you know, so work . well, i so it doesn't work. well, i mean, trump you know, mean, trump trump you know, really helped a lot. and as soon as biden came in, that was one of the first things that just complete chaos. >> well, well, what he's done is he sorted sorted out the backlog by letting everyone in. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but the problem is, you know,

it's not sweet little mothers with their children. it is like young that are coming into young men that are coming into the and committing the country and committing crimes raping women crimes and raping women trafficked kids. >> i mean, of course , there's no >> i mean, of course, there's no evidence that that's every guy that comes across the border. not every refugee is a criminal. no, i'm not saying that. but the concern is, if you don't know who's coming, then some could be the it's not just the thing is, it's not just people the thing is, it's not just peothis is like they have china , >> this is like they have china, india. found india. they have found terrorists from places like yemen have been found coming over border . over the border. >> yeah. and then we've seen the same with the small boats terrorists. same with the small boats terrthat's percentage. >> that's a small percentage. it's percentage, it's a very small percentage, though. it's a very small percentage, tho but then one terrorist >> but then one terrorist crossing the channel into the uk is many. is too many. >> chris, i get that, but how many live here? many would live here? >> how many terrorists do we have this country? know, have in this country? you know, we them back plenty. we should send them back plenty. >> were born here, >> well, who were born here, born bred here, born and bred here, unfortunately. and still send them coui'se. >> course. >> uh, rumbles on as a story. minister jail, post office, bullies . this is an interesting bullies. this is an interesting story, kevin hollinrake, um, has

said that guilty parties should face a prison sentence, saying those people can be criminally prosecuted . potentially go to prosecuted. potentially go to jail. people must be held to account unless we start locking people up. this is the ultimate deterrent. let's start doing this or these things will carry on. mike reid, what would you say those involved in the post office scandal, criminal charges , future. >> so criminal charges or is that going to affect our friendship with japan? um well, you've seen that other story . you've seen that other story. >> of course. tony blair was warned when he was prime minister that to ditch the honzon minister that to ditch the horizon software would cause a diplomatic problem with japan . diplomatic problem with japan. >> and it depends whether in terms of jailing people or punishing people, it depends whether knew or whether whether they knew or whether they didn't know. it's that whether they knew the computer was faulty and ignored it, or whether they had if they had no idea, then fair enough. but it's blindly following computers is a real problem . how many has real problem. how many lives has that i mean, that affected? yeah, i mean, terrible, most definitely .

terrible, most definitely. >> victoria, are you going to say do you think fujitsu should cough up? >> be. they should be >> it should be. they should be suing fujitsu. and they suing fujitsu. and even if they didn't know that there was a problem the computers, it problem with the computers, it is up to them. they should be paying paying those people at least a million. each, each million. you know, each, each for happened. million. you know, each, each for i happened. million. you know, each, each for i just happened. million. you know, each, each for i just thinkippened. million. you know, each, each for i just thinkippethis story >> i just think it's this story is shouldn't even be like the uk having mean uk having i mean yeah the uk government them but they government can pay them but they should should money should they should get the money from fujitsu. should they should get the money frorwellitsu. a should they should get the money frorwellitsu.a brainer should they should get the money frorwellitsu. a brainer isn't >> well it's a no brainer isn't it. should have been it. you know it should have been a taxpayer. >> would have all >> yeah. they would have all sued fujitsu and what sued fujitsu and they what exactly that exactly do you think that the post should rebranded post office should be rebranded or altogether. post office should be rebranded or no. altogether. >> no. >> no. >> need the post office. how >> we need the post office. how are we send parcels? are we going to send parcels? >> does need a new name? >> does it need a new name? should sold does it should it be sold off? does it need a rethink? >> no, we it post >> no, we need it as the post office. >> f have a new name. >> they did have a new name. >> they did have a new name. >> needs an overhaul. >> it needs an overhaul. >> it needs an overhaul. >> want name? >> doesn't want a new name? >> doesn't want a new name? >> no, they did have one, didn't they? years they they? a few years ago they rebranded it. >> oh yes. and then ditched it for a office. do you >> a post office. how do you call something else? call it something else? >> how it's run has got to >> but how it's run has got to be looked at, because this has brought to the brought it to, all to the surface. it's just surface. you know, it's just scandalous. and it needs sue

scandalous. and it needs to sue fujitsu. yes. >> um, yes. >> um, yes. >> i mean, people that >> um, yes. >> i want, people that >> um, yes. >> i want to people that >> um, yes. >> i want to go people that >> um, yes. >> i want to go to people that >> um, yes. >> i want to go to pe0jpost1at don't want to go to the post office um, because office anymore, um, because they're of upset by what office anymore, um, because thejthey of upset by what office anymore, um, because thejthey to upset by what office anymore, um, because thejthey to do ;et by what office anymore, um, because thejthey to do ;etcouple at are they going to do a couple people alternative people know there's alternative tiers as well. >> were tiers as well. >> in the 70s, there were a lot of, um, privateers with private stamps so you could send your mail various other means. >> and they kind of you've shown yourself branding yourself to be a great branding historian, because yourself to be a great branding hiwasan, because yourself to be a great branding hiwasan,2021 because yourself to be a great branding hiwasan,2021 that because yourself to be a great branding hiwasan,2021 that the because yourself to be a great branding hiwasan,2021 that the royale it was in 2021 that the royal mail spent £2 million rebranding the post office as consignia consignia. >> that's . it, insignia. >> that's. it, insignia. >> that's. it, insignia. >> and it was an abject disaster, but apparently not the biggest disaster in their history. it turns out . yeah. um, history. it turns out. yeah. um, do you think that those victims will ever get justice? mike proper justice? >> no. you properjustice? >> no. you can never buy back your time. you can never buy back your life . good point. or back your life. good point. or your problem. yeah, it shows on your problem. yeah, it shows on your it strain, it's your face. it strain, it's stress. it never goes away. it lives you. so no, no money lives with you. so no, no money can compensate for it. can really compensate for it. >> okay, folks. >> okay, folks. >> front pages next. >> well, more front pages next. plus, pundits will be plus, my pundits will be nominating heroes nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes. maria can you remember the poll? what was the of course,

you remember the poll? what was tiregular of course, you remember the poll? what was tiregular basis of course, you remember the poll? what was tiregular basis , of course, you remember the poll? what was tiregular basis , we »f course, you remember the poll? what was tiregular basis , we conduct, a regular basis, we conduct a mark dolan tonight exclusive people's poll . and i know we've people's poll. and i know we've been asking you question this been asking you a question this evening, let's dig that one evening, so let's dig that one out. would you comply with mask mandate if they were brought back? would you still wear a mask to stop the spread of nasty viruses? well, the results are in. well done maria, we shall reveal all next, plus more papers. don't go anywhere.

okay, folks , let's now have okay, folks, let's now have a look at some more front pages. and or shall we do the poll first? maria let's do that. we've been asking, conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. if mask mandates were reintroduced, would you comply . and wear one? well, the comply. and wear one? well, the results are in and they're quite damning. 87.4% say no. whilst 12.6% say yes . a couple more 12.6% say yes. a couple more front pages for you, harry. where shall we start? let's have

a look at the sunday mirror. always a good read. uh, middle east grim milestone, 100 days of hell . power cuts threaten lives hell. power cuts threaten lives of gaza babies. israeli troops advance near to stricken hospital british forces are braced for more yemen attacks . braced for more yemen attacks. acas and of course, a scuffle. the conflict related to what's happening in gaza. sunday times now zelenskyy's plea to the west help us now for the sake of all our futures. yes think we'd forgotten about what's happening in ukraine, unfortunately, which has slipped off the agenda has slipped off the news agenda but be front and centre but should be front and centre of it. beijing doesn't scare us, says taiwan's new leader and vennells given cbe. despite honzon vennells given cbe. despite horizon fears theresa may's government pushed through a cbe for paula vennells, the disgraced former post office boss. despite concern raised on the honours committee about the horizon. it sky handle and blair's superyacht buddy sails in with another £200 million donation. larry ellison , the us donation. larry ellison, the us tech billionaire, has significantly increased his

backing for sir tony blair's non—profit policy institute, pledging to take his total donations . to almost £300 donations. to almost £300 million. okay well, look, i'm delighted to say that reacting to the big stories of the day, we have campaigner and author chris wilde . wilde by name, chris wilde. wilde by name, wilde by nature. let me tell you, i have the scars to prove it. so socialites, tv personality and top royal insider lady victoria harvey. you don't mess with her blue blooded as they come and then red blooded television radio legend mike reid. uh, folks, let's get your nominations now for headline heroes and back page zeros . chris, who are you page zeros. chris, who are you smiling on today? >> um, my heroes, fatima whitbread. um, wonderful athlete. yeah. wonderful athlete. yeah. wonderful athlete. and she's a care leaver and she just started a new uk campaign, uh, to give more care leavers opportunities within sports. >> for those that don't know what is a care leaver? >> a care leaver is somebody who leaves the care sector at 18 and

they call it the care. care cliff, because that's all cliff, because that's when all the all the support stops the stop, all the support stops at a lot these kids at 18. so a lot of these kids find himself homeless, find himself in jobs which, you know, don't meet. they have don't make ends meet. they have no opportunities whatsoever. a lot up in jail. a lot of them end up in jail. a lot of them end up in jail. a lot them up with mental lot of them end up with mental health issues. so we need more support. fatima flying support. and fatima is flying the flag. right. so she the flag. that's right. so she achieved wasn't she? >> and she was an olympic star. yeah. in care as yeah. and she grew up in care as did you. >> yes did. >> yes i did. >> yes i did. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and really it's a sort of double of growing up double whammy of not growing up in a secure family setting. and then how you're treated by society come society when you come out. >> treated as >> yeah. you're treated as a second class citizen. and that's why, , we're campaigning second class citizen. and that's wimake , we're campaigning second class citizen. and that's wimake it , we're campaigning second class citizen. and that's wimake it a , we're campaigning second class citizen. and that's wimake it a protected campaigning to make it a protected characteristic as well. so these kids fighting chance in kids get a fighting chance in life. we want. kids get a fighting chance in life want we want. kids get a fighting chance in life want more we want. kids get a fighting chance in life want more opportunities.t. kids get a fighting chance in life want more opportunities. we we want more opportunities. we want people want these young people to thrive in a community then thrive in a community and then contribute back into the economy. >> w— >> more power to you. and to fatima whitbread. yeah, victoria, who's your headline hero today? um, my win would be it's a little boy called tony hudgell. >> i don't know if you've read about him, but tell me more. he

at four years old, he his at four years old, he had his legs amputated of legs amputated because of the abuse that through . um, abuse that he went through. um, and five, he did this and then at five, he did this charity walk, which he was . he charity walk, which he was. he was he was inspired by captain tom. wow. and it was a ten kilometre at five with kilometre walk at age five with his prosthetic legs. and he's been he's raised now like over, like over 1.5 million. wow pounds. yeah. um, so he just got a medal recently and, um, that was given . to him, i think just was given. to him, i think just over the holidays, over christmas for all his charity work, that he's amazing . work, that he's amazing. >> amazing, fabulous boy. >> amazing, fabulous boy. >> what's his name again? >> what's his name again? >> tony hudgell. >> tony hudgell. >> let's give it up for tony hudgell. >> yeah, let's give him junior knighthood. >> british british >> british empire, british empire medal. >> what a star wars >> yeah. what a star wars say. >> yeah. what a star wars say. >> deserved. read >> well deserved. mike. read your hero your headline. hero >> i've gone for the radio legend annie nightingale. who we lost this uh, who was the lost this week. uh, who was the first female broadcaster on radio 1? i think the longest running female broadcaster in the world. and she was the only

one until janice long came in. a real trailblazer. yeah uh, inspiration for many. great character. yes a great character on the brighton scene . they used on the brighton scene. they used to have pisces parties where only pisceans were invited , only pisceans were invited, which is quite eccentric. um but she was born on 17th march. you'd have been invited . you'd have been invited. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and did you encounter annie much directly yourself? did she cross your path? you were at radio 1 for many years. yes >> oh, absolutely. yes. i mean, she like john peel. i mean, john gets a lot of plaudits , quite gets a lot of plaudits, quite rightly, but. but annie doesn't maybe get as many as she should because mean, she because she was very i mean, she never to be a ladette nor never tried to be a ladette nor overly female. she was just straight down the line. i'm a music fan and i'm presenting in that way. >> that's it. she >> well that's it. she interviewed . rock stars and she interviewed. rock stars and she was a rock star, broadcaster. >> listen, only a few seconds there for your back. >> page zero davey with great >> page zero ed davey with great power becomes responsibility. he should what should be accountable for what he's done. victoria. >> to say, uh, >> well, i was going to say, uh, paula vennells , ceo the paula vennells, ex ceo of the post office. yeah, because of because a ceo

because of, you know, as a ceo in that position, you should know exactly what is happening, what's going on in your company, mike? >> your back, page zero. james cleverly, who hold the cleverly, who didn't hold the tide you style? tide back, can you style? >> uh, because sunak said the boats end by end of the boats will end by the end of the year quite right. the year and he was quite right. the weather them, but he weather stopped them, but he didn't say start again, didn't say they'd start again, which can take fantastic >> uh, can i take my fantastic punst pundits tonight? really enjoyed your victoria your company, chris. victoria and mike do back soon on and mike do come back soon on tomorrow's . the chairman of tomorrow's show. the chairman of ukip me with a big ukip joins me with a big announcement. legend announcement. tv news legend john and former john sergeant and former government . minister ann government. minister ann widdecombe. see you tomorrow at nine. headlines is next. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey here of gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. we've got a mixture of variable cloud and some clear spells to end this first half of the weekend, and that key in terms of that is quite key in terms of what see what conditions you will see overnight. do see some overnight. where you do see some of clearer spells, of those clearer spells, temperatures off of those clearer spells,

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proscribed organisation . proscribed organisation. thousands of people turned out calling for a ceasefire in gaza . calling for a ceasefire in gaza. 1700 police officers were also deployed onto the streets of the caphal deployed onto the streets of the capital. the foreign secretary has warned britain is ready to strike the houthi rebels again if attacks on the red sea continue . writing in the sunday continue. writing in the sunday telegraph, lord cameron says the government has sent an unambiguous message to the houthis, saying their attacks have to stop . he also warned the have to stop. he also warned the iran backed militants could force up prices in britain if they're allowed to block the passage of container ships in the busy trade route. yemen's houthi rebels earlier promised a strong and effective response following a fresh strike by the united states last night. the us says it was a follow up to a joint uk mission targeting houthi positions following a spate recent attacks . a spate of recent attacks. a former postmistress who's planning to run against sir davey at the next general election says he must be brought to justice. the lib dem leader was postal affairs minister was the postal affairs minister dunng was the postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal,