on all fronts, this rebellions on all fronts, this week and faces electoral wipe—out out according to the most authoritative . poll since most authoritative. poll since the 2019 election, when the prime minister under pressure sits down with our political editor , child . abuse failings editor, child. abuse failings dozens of men still pose a potential risk to children in rochdale, warns a new report into the grooming gang scandal setting the multiple setting out the multiple failures greater failures by the greater manchester police local manchester police and local authorities, have the right lessons been learned and war at sea has . lessons been learned and war at sea has. britain refuses to lessons been learned and war at sea has . britain refuses to rule sea has. britain refuses to rule out further strikes on iran backed houthi rebels in the middle east. the prime minister will deliver a statement to the commons week's royal air commons on last week's royal air force keir starmer force action. keir starmer backed the strikes. but does this represent yet another u—turn man who promised u—turn from the man who promised to all military action to ensure all military action would be put to a vote in .

parliament? >> i'm really interested about this exclusive rishi sunak interview. speaking to gb news about this, i would assume about this big, big vote tomorrow and on wednesday, all these amendments that are going to go before the house of commons on the i'm christopher >> yes, i'm sure christopher will him about that, whether >> yes, i'm sure christopher wilis him about that, whether >> yes, i'm sure christopher wilis goingn about that, whether >> yes, i'm sure christopher wilis going to bout that, whether >> yes, i'm sure christopher wilis going to toughent, whether >> yes, i'm sure christopher wilis going to toughen uprhether >> yes, i'm sure christopher wilis going to toughen up the 1er he is going to toughen up the bill as quite a few tory mps , bill as quite a few tory mps, about 60, i believe . want him to about 60, i believe. want him to do so. but then, of course, there's the other caucus of mps who him to soften it, or at who want him to soften it, or at least it it so least keep it as it is. so it could be a very interesting one, of course, larger than the of course, is larger than the government's could defeat the >> now. they could defeat the government. and happens government. and what happens then but in telegraph then? but also in the telegraph today is the largest poll, the most sophisticated poll that has been carried out since the last election. over 17,000 interviews went into this poll with a special sort of analysis that shows the tories are in for a 1997 style wipe—out. >> and that's very different, isn't it, from the type of

polling we see week, week or week. >> exactly. this is called an mrp , which stands for wait mrp poll, which stands for wait for it multi—level regression and post—stratification analysis . yes. >> which would we do without you, tom? >> which is a lot of gibberish to mean actually they're to mean that actually they're applying what happens in different differently different localities differently rather than just putting one number whole country and number for the whole country and say, on and say, well, labour's on 40 and this this many seats, this means this many seats, they go . this means this many seats, they 9° - by go in constituency. by constituency and do all sorts of clever maths to get a very accurate reading. and it was very when did the very accurate when they did the same thing 2019. very accurate when they did the sanandiing 2019. very accurate when they did the sanand they're!019. very accurate when they did the sanand they're saying that if >> and they're saying that if things don't change, if things if the election was today, it would be in 1997. style wipe—out for the conservatives. let us know . what you think. gb views know. what you think. gb views at gb news .com. but shall we get the headlines with sophia . get the headlines with sophia. >> thanks, emily. good afternoon . it's 12:02. >> thanks, emily. good afternoon . it's12:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room . first to

in the gb news room. first to some breaking news. more than 200 migrants crossed the english channelin 200 migrants crossed the english channel in small boats at the weekend . the home office says weekend. the home office says 124 people made the crossing in three small boats on saturday, which was followed by 139 migrants in four dinghies on sunday. that's despite the poor weather conditions . it comes weather conditions. it comes after five people died on the french side of the channel yesterday, after getting into difficulties just off the coast near boulogne . to some other near boulogne. to some other news, the prime minister says british strikes on houthi rebels in yemen are aimed at de—escalating tensions as he prepares to address mps later, the government insists its decision not to consult parliament regarding the strikes was important for reasons of operational security . following operational security. following a series of attacks on commercial ships passing through the red sea, rishi sunak says tensions in the region must not be allowed to boil over. >> our aim is to de—escalate tensions in the region and actually restore stability back

to the area . we faced an to the area. we faced an escalating series of attacks from the houthis on commercial shipping, including an attack on royal navy warship. that's unacceptable. it was right that we took proportionate , targeted we took proportionate, targeted action against military targets to send a strong message that that behaviour is unacceptable . that behaviour is unacceptable. it was a last resort. it came after the end of exhaustive diplomatic activity , including a diplomatic activity, including a un security council . resolution un security council. resolution >> labour leader sir keir starmer says he understands the urgency surrounding the situation, but warns the case should be made for further military action. >> the vast majority of people across the country recognise that when urgent operational uh issues arise, as they did in this case, then it's not possible to have a vote in parliament beforehand, particularly if it's a joint operation. >> i think it's fundamentally different if there's a sustained campaign with the deployment of troops . and in those troops. and in those circumstances, i do think it's

important that the prime minister of the day comes to parliament with a viable case setting out the legal basis for the action. >> the uk will send 20,000 troops across europe as britain looks to counter an alarming rise in russian aggression. it will include deployments from the army, the navy and the raf in what's being described as the largest nato exercise since the cold war. defence secretary grant shapps is calling it a vital reassurance against the putin menace. britain has often accomplished the seemingly impossible before our history is littered with moments when we faced down the threat and we have triumphed . have triumphed. >> but looking ahead , we are in >> but looking ahead, we are in a new era and we must be prepared to deter our enemies and to lead our allies and defend our nation . defend our nation. >> two people have been jailed for life for the murder of 14 year old caroline glacken in a

historic murder case dating back to 1996. robert o'brien and andrew kelly were found guilty of killing the schoolgirl more than 27 years ago. a third person, donna mary brand , person, donna mary brand, remains in hospital and will be sentenced at a later date. the court heard that the victim had been infatuated with o'brien before she was killed, in what prosecutors described as a violent and horrific attack. speaking outside court after the sentencing, the victim's mother, margaret mckee , spoke of her margaret mckee, spoke of her long wait for justice, saying it's a day we thought would never happen . girls were left at never happen. girls were left at the mercy of the paedophile grooming gangs due to failings by senior police and council leaders. that's . according to a leaders. that's. according to a comprehensive new report covering nearly ten years of failed investigations by greater manchester police . it highlights manchester police. it highlights years of widespread organised sexual abuse of children in the rochdale area, despite what it described as compelling evidence reported to authorities as early

as 2004. greater manchester police chief constable stephen watson says the report paints a damning picture. >> the findings, evidenced within it are shocking, stark and shameful. it within it are shocking, stark and shameful . it speaks to the and shameful. it speaks to the systemic failure of various agencies to pull together and do the obvious and the right thing, and above all, it outlines in painful detail all of those missed opportunities where decisive action could and should have been taken . have been taken. >> commuters are in for a fresh series of delays as the aslef union announces more strike action. drivers will take part in a rolling programme of one day walkouts from the end of the month , including a ban on month, including a ban on overtime . the union says it's overtime. the union says it's aiming to put pressure on what it as a tone deaf tory it describes as a tone deaf tory government , calling for drivers government, calling for drivers to get their first pay rise in five years. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your

car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to tom and . emily. well tom and. emily. well rishi sunak faces rebellions on multiple fronts this week . fronts this week. >> that's as crucial parliamentary debates take place on the rwanda bill. >> small boat crossings have resumed after a spell of bad weather and tragically, over the weekend, five five migrants died in the english channel after their small boat got into difficulties. >> yes. so this comes as the prime minister visits leigh on sea in essex today. now he sat down with our political editor, christopher hope, and we have an exclusive interview for you at 1:00. but christopher joins us now. christopher thank you very much indeed . tell us the latest . much indeed. tell us the latest. >> well, tom, emily, good morning from leigh on sea in essex. morning from leigh on sea in essex . now the pm prime morning from leigh on sea in essex. now the pm prime minister has got a big few days. he spent

the end of last week dealing with on the world stage . with issues on the world stage. ukraine, course, and sending ukraine, of course, and sending in fighter jets. uh to attack the yemen, the houthis and the yemen. this week it returns more to a domestic context with these key votes tomorrow and wednesday on his rwanda plan. now, for gb news. i've been interviewing him today here in leigh on sea. now i asked him initially and you'll be seeing that play out at 1:00. how do you stop the deaths? because there were five people died tragically over the weekend, of course, trying to come here to this country in small boats . 200 people made small boats. 200 people made that journey. he told us that it was compassionate to tackle illegal migration. his approach, he sees as one of compassion. it's not fair to not to challenge these people smugglers. business model. that's why he's trying to do. he talked again. you'll see at 1:00 dialogue with tory rebels. as many as 60 tory mps are backing amendment to this rwanda bill to try and make it tougher and harder for european judges and

other reasons to stop these flights taking off in may. i also asked them about his personal wealth and what he felt about being attacked. for that , about being attacked. for that, you'll hear the answer at 1:00. um, a very , very important um, it's a very, very important time going forward for time for him going forward for the disclose that the the pm. i can disclose that the european research group of tory mps with the new conservatives , mps with the new conservatives, these are two of the so—called five families. they're meeting tonight decide strategy . tonight to decide on strategy. it's very clear that the pm has to get this through. but he also he might vote. it might voted he might vote. it might be voted down by mps led by suella down by tory mps led by suella braverman, the former home secretary. she told us for gb news friday, she will vote news on friday, she will vote against this bill, against this measure. this bill, if it's not amended . if it's not amended. >> it's a pretty busy week for the prime minister. not only is he rushing back to parliament from leigh on sea to deliver that statement on the airstrikes, of course, those two crucial on, on or multiple crucial votes on, on or multiple votes across those two crucial days on tuesday and wednesday. but also on the political side of things outside of westminster. there has been the largest, most sophisticated

opinion poll published this morning in the telegraph suggesting that he's facing a 1997 style wipe out . 1997 style wipe out. >> yes, it might make for quite an interesting cabinet meeting tomorrow morning. tom and emily, because, of course, 11 cabinet ministers, half the tory cabinet will leave, lose their seats . will leave, lose their seats. poll becomes is right and often they have been proved right, both in 2017 and 2019 by yougov. in today's daily telegraph, he i asked him in the interview about the polling and he said not for the polling and he said not for the first time. the only poll that matters is guess what, the general election later this yeah general election later this year. that's the answer they'll be giving us throughout this year about any polling which goes against them, of course, but i said to him, you know, do you get it? do you get the concern felt in red wall areas, areas outside london? um, about migration, illegal migration. he says he does. he also said, look at my record. i'm trying to

tackle bring down legal migration as much as illegal migration. of course he's been accused of blocking accused in the past of blocking that when chancellor. that when he was chancellor. chancellor. he was seeing the chancellor. so he was seeing the pm on the front foot on tackling both legal migration both illegal and legal migration this week. well thank you very much indeed, christopher. >> hope we forward to >> hope we look forward to heanng >> hope we look forward to hearing your exclusive interview with the prime minister a little bit very much. bit later. thank you very much. now the largest poll, we were now the largest poll, as we were talking since the general talking about since the general election has been this election has been published this morning. it predicts that the tories may face a 1997 style electoral wipe—out . right. electoral wipe—out. right. >> well, joining us now for more on this is the pollster and professor of politics, matt goodwin. matt, thank you so much for joining us. first of all, forjoining us. first of all, could you just explain for everyone why this poll is different from the sort of weekly polls we might used to be sort of normally seeing why this multi—level regression and post—stratification analysis is perhaps a little bit more detailed . detailed. >> yeah. good afternoon tom. >> yeah. good afternoon tom. >> good to be with you. so the mrp is a is a really fashionable

, uh, dare i say it, sexy method in polling at the moment you have a very you have a very large sample size. >> lots more voters in the poll . >> lots more voters in the poll. >> lots more voters in the poll. >> and then it's a much more complicated statistical technique, crucially , has technique, which, crucially, has a very good track record of predicting what happens in elections. there is an elections. now, there is an argument, tom, that this far out from election, which from an election, which of course end of from an election, which of couryear, end of from an election, which of couryear, necessarily|d of from an election, which of couryear, necessarily over this year, not necessarily over the next month or that mps the next month or two that mps aren't quite as powerful as they might be a month out from an election. but nonetheless, as you know better than most, we've also had those by elections where we know the polling is translating to what we're seeing on the ground when people are turning out to vote. so if i was rishi sunak looking this and rishi sunak looking at this and looking at those by elections and data in and looking at all the data in the be very, very concerned. >> matt , now accompanying this >> matt, now accompanying this poll in the telegraph today is some analysis that suggests immigration is the issue that is leading to the conservatives downfall and will be reflected

in the election results. if something doesn't change. dramatic . julie, would you dramatic. julie, would you concur with that ? and also, i concur with that? and also, i don't know if you've seen onwards report on immigration, suggesting not only that people believe immigration is actually far lower than it actually is , far lower than it actually is, but that 9 in 10 constituencies want it to be cut . want it to be cut. >> yeah, absolutely. so the first thing to say is, if you ask those 2019 conservative voters, the people who basically rishi sunak needs to win back if he's going to have any chance at rishi sunak needs to win back if he'selectiono have any chance at rishi sunak needs to win back if he'selection and ve any chance at rishi sunak needs to win back if he'selection and remember, ice at rishi sunak needs to win back if he'selection and remember, about the election and remember, about a third of those voters are currently they're currently saying they're not going well their going to vote at all. well their top priority is stopping the boats above even the cost of living crisis. so that's why team sunak are throwing everything at the rwanda bill. it's throwing it's why they're throwing everything at migration everything at the migration issue, at least illegal migration issue. the second thing to say about that onward polling . look what's polling. look what's interesting, written interesting, and i've written about this week in in about this this week in in my substack that it's only now that british voters are beginning to

realise what has happened with migration and what happened under boris johnson in particular. it's only now that voters are finally beginning to realise that net migration has rocketed to a record high 700,000, a year, and the borders are broken. now we're all in the world of politics, right? we always debate these issues. we're always in the mix. so this isn't really news to us, out isn't really news to us, but out there in the voters that i talked groups who talked to in focus groups who aren't in the aren't really tuning in to the same some of us, you same extent as some of us, you know, they think that immigration coming down immigration was coming down after think we've after brexit. they think we've got borders. you got control of the borders. you know, they don't think, uh , that know, they don't think, uh, that net migration has rocketed to these , these big so the these, these big highs. so the onward me is really onward polling for me is really interesting because if voters are the are now beginning to realise the extent is extent to which immigration is now out of control, that is also really, really bad news for rishi sunak . really, really bad news for rishi sunak. it really, really bad news for rishi sunak . it suggests really, really bad news for rishi sunak. it suggests he's really going to struggle to win them over. after 14 years of conservatives essentially presiding over large scale presiding over this large scale migration. now famously, it's always said that a week is a long time in politics.

>> we might have six, seven, eight. gosh, nine months until the general election in heaven. forfend what could the prime minister do to turn things around ? can he turn things around? can he turn things around? can he turn things around ? around? >> okay, so here's here's his best chance in my mind. number one, the rwanda bill goes through parliament. uh, it's tightened up. um, the robert jenrick, the suella braverman win the argument. they get their key amendments through the bill becomes basically a much more effective piece of legislation . effective piece of legislation. uh, that then will go to the lords. we're unlikely to see this bill, um, coming into action and the planes taking off before the election. but nonetheless, it allows rishi sunak i've an sunak to say, look, i've got an oven , uh, migration bill oven ready, uh, migration bill here. do you want to help me put this through, or do you want to go take a punt labour? go and take a punt on labour? that's and that's .1.2. inflation and interest to keep interest rates need to keep coming down because that allows british sunak and jeremy hunt to say, the say, well over the worst. the economy . and point

economy is improving. and point three he really needs to run a seriously energetic motivational in aspiring general election campaign that can get those 1 in 3 2019 conservatives who remember thomas saying, it's not that they're going to go to laboun that they're going to go to labour, they're just not going to vote at all. got to get to vote at all. he's got to get them sofa in to the them off the sofa in to the polling stations. now, if he can do , that of those do that, that all of those things, the polls narrow things, the polls will narrow and will narrow. you know, and they will narrow. you know, we're not going these 20 we're not going to see these 20 point the point labour leads at the election. to see, election. we're going to see, i suspect, a labour lead of somewhere between 10 and 15 points. sunak is going to points. but sunak is going to have to squeeze all these have to squeeze all of these things and hope things at the same time and hope the reform vote begins to get squeezed to in order to even have a chance. but as i say, i give them a 5% chance. tom. that's it's a 5% chance. and that's it. it's a 5% chance. and if know , you know if you know, you know probabilities, know probabilities, you'll know i'm basically saying, you know, they don't of don't really have much of a chance at although that's chance at all, although that's what gave what the new york times gave donald trump 2016. donald trump in 2016. >> never say never. yeah, >> so never say never. yeah, very difficult. >> is any policy changes enacted now may not, uh, bear fruit in time for the election. thank you very much . matt goodwin,

very much. matt goodwin, pollster professor of pollster and professor of politics, of course. and also, there's the issue that if the bill is toughened up, the rwanda bill is toughened up, the rwanda bill that is could end up with rwanda pulling out. >> well, that is always the >> yes. well, that is always the risk. if they go too far , then risk. if they go too far, then do do the rwandan government do do do the rwandan government think, oh , is that worrying? or think, oh, is that worrying? or have rwandan government been have the rwandan government been leant on by some international institutions? have some lawyers been writing to mr kagame? who knows . um, but clearly some knows. um, but clearly some seismic debates taking place tuesday . and wednesday this tuesday. and wednesday this week. and of course, again , that week. and of course, again, that interview with the prime minister, we'll be hearing it live. but for minister, we'll be hearing it livefirst but for minister, we'll be hearing it livefirst time but for minister, we'll be hearing it livefirst time on but for minister, we'll be hearing it livefirst time on . but for minister, we'll be hearing it livefirst time on . gbjt for minister, we'll be hearing it livefirst time on . gb news at 1:00. >> yes. now the defence secretary says initial strikes against the houthi rebels in yemen one off and not part yemen are a one off and not part of a campaign of military attacks . attacks. >> in a speech lancaster >> in a speech at lancaster house, grant shapps set out how he hopes the uk will lead on deterring threats to the world order. he praised britain's swift response to the violence in the red sea, stating it

should be a blueprint for future interventions. >> well , joining us, how >> well, joining us, how persistently violated the law menacing commercial vessels in . menacing commercial vessels in. the region in the red sea, we've seen how brilliant the royal navy been acting in self—defence against the intolerable and growing number of houthi attacks and earlier this month, the world sent a very clear message to the iranian backed houthis end your illegal and unjustified actions . actions. >> stop risking innocent lives. cease threatening the global economy. we could not have been clearer with our warnings, which they chose to ignore . and enough they chose to ignore. and enough was enough . was enough. >> well, joining us now is gb news home and security editor mark white and mark, where do things go from here? because it looks like the houthis are not

relenting . relenting. >> no, i mean, it's obviously the stated aim of the us and the uk that these us strikes that took place at the end of last week were limited, proportionate and necessary. but the ball really is in the houthis court in terms of how they respond next. and we know there was a missile strike that landed short of an oil tanker that happened on friday. and then again, reports just yesterday say that a us warship , the uss, uh, a us warship, the uss, uh, lampung , was attacked or lampung, was attacked or targeted by a cruise missile believed to have been fired by the houthis , that was taken out the houthis, that was taken out by this us navy destroyer . so by this us navy destroyer. so some real concern , clearly that some real concern, clearly that going forward that, uh, as they've said very publicly, the houthis may decide that they are not going to bow to the might of the us , us and the uk and that

the us, us and the uk and that they will continue to fire back, um, in terms of the actual strikes , we know that they, uh, strikes, we know that they, uh, took place, uh, involving raf typhoons that flew 3000 miles in a round trip from cyprus as well as, uh, mostly us assets involved in that. that's the kind of thing that grant shapps defence secretary says is , is, defence secretary says is, is, uh, part of the, the, the growing sort of global threat culture. we live in a much more dangerous and unpredictable world. and as part of that going forward, he committed to 20,000 british personnel taking part in a massive nato exercise that will take place to mark the 75th anniversary of nato . here's what anniversary of nato. here's what he said on that . he said on that. >> uk will be sending some 20,000 personnel to lead one of nato's largest deployments since the end of the cold war exercise

steadfast defender , our carrier steadfast defender, our carrier strike group, will be out in full force with our magnificent flagship hms queen elizabeth leading the way and flying from her decks will be the fifth generation f—35 lightning jets . generation f—35 lightning jets. >> well, you heard the defence secretary there talking about the magnificent aircraft carrier hms queen elizabeth, uh, and her f—35 combat jets that will take part in this exercise. but the fact is, of course, we've got a real world crisis in the red sea at the moment. uh, that has been simmering for many weeks now , simmering for many weeks now, and threats have been made by the us and the uk. uh, about about the potential for , uh, the about the potential for, uh, the uk and the us and others to strike against the houthis. but the, the hms queen elizabeth was not sent. now there are , of not sent. now there are, of course, as you'll have seen,

lots of reports suggesting that that's down to a very significant manpower manpower crisis within in the navy and the navy , um, support arm, the the navy, um, support arm, the royal fleet auxiliary . that royal fleet auxiliary. that meant a supply ship wasn't able to support hms queen elizabeth. and it's not gone to the region because of that. however we heard from the defence procurement minister speaking to camilla tominey just yesterday, saying that no , he could confirm saying that no, he could confirm that hms queen elizabeth and hms prince of wales, the other aircraft carrier, are at readiness there in portsmouth and available to be sent. >> well, thank you, mark. uh, mark white, there are home and security editor now. uh, coming up, a report finds there were serious failings by senior police and council bosses leaving girls at the mercy of rochdale. grooming gangs will be live in manchester after this very short .

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. good afternoon britain. >> it's 12:27 good afternoon britain. >> it's12:27 and a report into grooming gangs in rochdale has been published today stating that young girls were left at the mercy of paedophile grooming gangs because of failings by senior police and council

bosses. yes >> earlier this morning, mayor of manchester andy burnham spoke to the press report being published today finds unequivocally that failure is that could and should have been avoided and were in fact repeated , in the words of the repeated, in the words of the report , it represents a, quote, report, it represents a, quote, lamentable strategic failure by leaders in the greater manchester system at the time . manchester system at the time. >> over many years , greater >> over many years, greater manchester police failed to give the investigation of these serious crimes the priority and resources necessary . resources necessary. >> well, joining us now from manchester is our reporter, charlie peters, who's done a lot of work into this issue, including a documentary for us here on gb news. now, charlie, looking at some of the lines coming out, these key findings from this report, some of them are very shocking. i found the

fact that there could potentially dozens of men potentially be dozens of men still potentially , well, could still potentially, well, could cause potential risks still out there in the area, haven't been apprehended . apprehended. >> that's right. some 96 men still posing a risk to children. one of the key top lines coming out of this fiery and emotional press conference. and the attached 173 page report report, its findings are damning. it's extremely hard to actually summarise just the extent of the failures that it has found within greater manchester police, in particular the rochdale district. but also local children's service bodies. but for maggie oliver and sarah rowbotham, the two two whistleblowers at the centre of the rochdale grooming gang scandal , today is a moment of scandal, today is a moment of vindication because all the warnings and reports that they were making back in the time of this scandal erupting were confirmed by the report's team . confirmed by the report's team. this report was launched in

2017. it's the third review of four into child sexual exploitation within greater manchester. it also found appalling and deplorable practices by local authorities and multi—agency approaches. in one case, a girl had an aborted foetus, kept at her back for dna records without the consent of her or her family. records without the consent of her or her family . she was just her or her family. she was just 13 at the time and in another astonishing case, the prosecuting team for one abuse gang chose to name one of its victims as a co—conspirator in what was described as a tactical decision . in both of these decision. in both of these moves, described as deplorable, and they are among several strategic failures to disrupt the gang's discovered between 2004 and 2012, where the report said they found compelling evidence of widespread abuse , evidence of widespread abuse, and for this, the chief constable for greater manchester police, stephen watson, said sorry , i am so sorry that your sorry, i am so sorry that your

childhoods were so erratic loveably blighted and scarred with such profound consequences. >> one of the primary responsibility of the police is to protect the vulnerable from the cruel and the predatory . and the cruel and the predatory. and in this . in this. >> well, that response there , by >> well, that response there, by stephen watson , the chief stephen watson, the chief constable, was received with some negativity in the press conference with maggie oliver saying that she took exception to his apology . to his apology. >> this report talks about the past , but >> this report talks about the past, but what i want to do is to bring it from the past into the present and into the future , the present and into the future, because my work in the maggie oliver foundation now means that ihave oliver foundation now means that i have current information about what is going on today and i would say categorically , and i would say categorically, and i am sorry, mr watson, but that

the failures that happened then are still happening now . so . the are still happening now. so. the abuse is still ongoing and the failures are being repeated . failures are being repeated. >> this is the allegation made by maggie oliver. the review team will now go into their fourth and final report, which is on contemporary approaches to csa , where maggie oliver's csa, where maggie oliver's claims will be challenged. >> charlie peters, thank you so much for bringing us that. of course, three quarters of the way through this process, this this litany of reports , and it this litany of reports, and it still just doesn't feel like many lessons are being learned. and extraordinary story there from manchester. >> and that's a key point for maggie oliver there that this abuse hasn't finished. it's still ongoing . and there are still ongoing. and there are people out there who haven't been apprehended and the risk is still to children up and still there to children up and down country . have we learnt down the country. have we learnt the lessons . we need to? the lessons. we need to? >> of course, greater manchester police would say would refute some claims, but stay some of those claims, but stay with us here on gb news. we're

heading stateside soon as the republican voters in the state of iowa have their say on who the party will choose to be, their 2024 presidential nominee . their 2024 presidential nominee. that's after your latest headunes that's after your latest headlines with sophia . headlines with sophia. >> thank you. tom it's 1233. headlines with sophia. >> thank you. tom it's1233. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the prime minister says british strikes on houthi rebels in yemen are aimed at de—escalating tensions as he prepares to address mps later , prepares to address mps later, the government insists its decision not to consult parliament regarding the strikes was important for reasons of operational security . following operational security. following a series of attacks on commercial ships passing through the red sea , rishi sunak says the red sea, rishi sunak says tensions in the region must not be allowed to boil over. more than 200 migrants crossed the engush than 200 migrants crossed the english channel in small boats at the weekend , and the home at the weekend, and the home office says 124 people made the crossing in three small boats on

saturday, which was followed by 139 migrants in four dinghies on sunday. that's despite the poor weather conditions . it comes weather conditions. it comes after five people died on the french side of the channel yesterday, after getting into difficulties just off the coast near boulogne . the uk will send near boulogne. the uk will send 20,000 troops across europe as britain looks to counter an alarming rise in russian aggression. it will include deployments from the army, the navy and the raf in what's being described as the largest nato exercise since the cold war. defence secretary grant shapps is calling it a vital reassurance against the putin menace . girls were left at the menace. girls were left at the mercy of paedophile grooming gangs due to failings by senior police and council leaders. that's according to a comprehensive new report covering nearly ten years of failed investigations by greater manchester police . it highlights manchester police. it highlights years of widespread organised sexual abuse of children in the rochdale despite what it

rochdale area, despite what it described as compelling evidence reported to authorities as early as 2004, greater manchester police has apologised for the failings as commuters are in for a fresh series of delays as the aslef union announces more strike action. drivers will take part in a rolling programme of one day walkouts from the end of next month, including a ban on overtime. the union says it's aiming to put pressure on what it describes as a tone deaf tory government, calling for drivers to their first pay rise in to get their first pay rise in five years. an ad you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com .

sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> welcome back. it's 1239 now. after months of campaigning, the republican us presidential candidates will be battling for votes at the iowa caucus this evening. >> yes, it comes nine months ahead of that presidential election. but things are looking positive for former president donald trump, who maintains a huge polling lead over his republican rivals . republican rivals. >> well, joining us now is spokesperson for republicans overseas, jennifer jung . spokesperson for republicans overseas, jenniferjung . thank overseas, jennifer jung. thank you very much for coming to in the studio. thanks. um, so tell us, what is this iowa caucus and

why is it so important ? why is it so important? >> sure. >> sure. >> so, um, for one thing, it it kind of kicks off the primary season. i know, tommy, you just said months ahead season. i know, tommy, you just sa the months ahead season. i know, tommy, you just sa the elections, months ahead season. i know, tommy, you just sa the elections, but|ths ahead season. i know, tommy, you just sa the elections, but ilis ahead season. i know, tommy, you just sa the elections, but it kicks ad of the elections, but it kicks off primary season . it's, off the primary season. it's, um, iowa, then new hampshire and then south carolina , and then we then south carolina, and then we go into super tuesday and march and the reason a caucus, which is what iowa does, which is a little bit different than, say, a normal that it's a normal primary, is that it's very old school picture a gymnasium or a town hall or just a physical location , and people a physical location, and people have to show up there . and you, have to show up there. and you, you vote in person, write paper ballots , very old school. the ballots, very old school. the other thing that's like what we do, our elections . do, our elections. >> yes, exactly , exactly. >> yes, exactly, exactly. >> yes, exactly, exactly. >> so no mail in, um, and no actual just it's people kind of getting in line with who they, uh, who they back the other thing that can go on is you can have either the candidates be in various caucus locations , or various caucus locations, or they can send a, a, um, like a

delegate , um, for, for them. delegate, um, for, for them. >> and that's very different from how we vote in the uk, where candidates and representatives aren't allowed where candidates and repres

ahead, i think nationally he's ahead, i think nationally he's ahead by 50 points iowa. he's ahead by 50 points in iowa. he's ahead by 50 points in iowa. he's ahead by 50 points in iowa. he's ahead by about 30 points. so what we're going to be looking out for is , is, um, if he does out for is, is, um, if he does win , um, by how much? right how win, um, by how much? right how strong of a win does he have ? strong of a win does he have? and number the second thing, we'll be looking at how we'll be looking at is how decent is and haley perform . decent is and haley perform. desantis has been to all 99 counties. he has the backing of the governor as well as another very important activist. um, a man called bob vander plaats , man called bob vander plaats, which is he's an evangelical. um, iowa is very rural, very the christian evangelicals have a big say, usually in who wins. >> so ted cruz won the state back in 2016. unexpec beating trump mainly on the back of that evangelical vote. >> you're exactly right that that's what happens. so that's what we'll be looking out for. um the one, of um and then the next one, of course, is , um, new hampshire. course, is, um, new hampshire. and a more, you know, and that's a more, you know, east coast kind of centrist . the east coast kind of centrist. the other thing that happens in new

hampshire versus in iowa , only, hampshire versus in iowa, only, um, registered republicans can vote in this caucus. in new hampshire, you can be an independent. you can be a democrat . right. so you've got democrat. right. so you've got some strategic voting open primary. right. and nikki haley , primary. right. and nikki haley, um, is thought she will do better those sort voters better with those sort of voters in what sort of in new hampshire. what sort of numbers we talking numbers are we talking in terms of voting in of people who will be voting in this caucus? yeah. good question. so the highest turnout on record , i believe, is 187,000 on record, i believe, is 187,000 people. okay. now let's keep in mind i hate when people make excuses for the weather, but we're supposed to have like, negative 24 and wants to ask you about that next. yes, i've lived here 20 years. i'm not sure how to do and, you know, to do that. and, uh, you know, in british very it's in british it's very cold. it's very cold and subzero temperatures. >> i think zero temperatures. >> i think zero temperatures. >> that could affect it. now, >> so that could affect it. now, how it. so how that will affect it. so trump basically let's look at the enthusiasm that these certain candidates voters have. trump has an enthusiasm rating of about 88, which is very, very high. so people are going to be

going through the snow to get there. uh, desantis digging through snow to get the hall. through snow to get to the hall. exactly. not not too far behind in far as his in the 70s, as far as his enthusiasm. and again, the governor and, um, bob vander plaats and um , he's done well plaats and um, he's done well there. uh , nikki haley, there. um, uh, nikki haley, i believe it's a little lower. it's in the 50s, and a lot of people at as of people look at her as sort of the anti trump, the anti populist vote. someone who's more centre. so again we'll see. we'll see. >> there's been there's been quite a lot of. and tell me if i'm correct if i'm wrong. i'm correct me if i'm wrong. but it that been it seems to be that there's been the of nikki the positive coverage of nikki haley has been ramping up somewhat a completely you're very right. >> she is the donor's choice , >> she is the donor's choice, the big donors choice. and by that , i the big donors choice. and by that, i don't just mean republicans . i mean some very republicans. i mean some very left leaning reid hoffman, you know, from the paypal mafia and everything. got to everything. so you've got to look at, um, do these look at, um, why do these people, why are these people backing nikki haley? obviously, they don't want to see trump back in white house. um they probably look at desantis as well lite . you know,

well as trump lite. you know, he's got some great policies. i've been in this studio . so, i've been in this studio. so, you know, talking up desantis for months. but um, you know, the voters right now , as it the voters right now, as it stands, do prefer trump . so stands, do prefer trump. so nikki haley , um, there are some nikki haley, um, there are some of us that believe she's a good, um , she's a good biden hedge , um, she's a good biden hedge, you know. so if the democrats , you know. so if the democrats, uh, don't get biden or whoever ends up being the nominee, they'll be okay with her, right? because she's a lot more, um, and yet and yet the battle right now seems to really be for second place between desantis and haley, who comes out as the stronger challenger today will be the big, big thing. >> we could see this evening in the united states tomorrow morning in the uk, one of these two drop out. we could, we could. >> and the person , uh, probably , >> and the person, uh, probably, uh, if ron desantis underperform us, that's not good because he's put so much effort into it. and chances are he's not going to do

as well as haley in new hampshire. so he will probably, um, have to re—evaluate , state um, have to re—evaluate, state his candidacy. if trump just way over performs, maybe both of them do. and then let's not forget vivek, who's been you know, he's kind of an outlier, does not have the numbers by any means . but, does not have the numbers by any means. but, um, he has does not have the numbers by any means . but, um, he has been does not have the numbers by any means. but, um, he has been , um, means. but, um, he has been, um, very present in iowa with a very confusing message back , trump, confusing message back, trump, vote for me. >> i don't quite understand what his whole got a little dramarama in the end. >> so. yes. yeah. um, but and just very, very quickly, when will we find out the result? it's quite quick. like we should know our time tomorrow . know by our time tomorrow. >> okay. yeah. great. very interesting to you. interesting to talk to you. thank much. jennifer thank you very much. jennifer ewing, spokesperson for republicans seas. republicans over seas. >> well, a little bit closer to home now. you might not know, but today, the 15th of january marks national pothole day. >> yes, the state of uk roads is often a cause of concern amongst motorists and research by the aa shows they dealt with over 600,000 pothole related

incidents just last year. now that costs motorists an estimated £500 million worth of vehicle damage. wow >> yeah. well joining us from staffordshire is gb news reporter will hollis. and will i'm led to believe you're chasing some pothole repairing trucks. >> he's got his high viz on. yeah well, today is exactly the kind of day where you're going to see more potholes forming on british roads. >> we've got wet , icy conditions >> we've got wet, icy conditions , a bit of wear and tear in there , maybe not so much road there, maybe not so much road maintenance as there has been previously. and that's when potholes form . and today is the potholes form. and today is the day that an array of road user organisations, including the aa, including jk , cb and the including jk, cb and the motorcyclists federation, are coming together to say to the government, you need to do more to create a permanent fix to the pothole problems. here we are in staffordshire , is on the staffordshire, is on the doorstep of the jcb, british

manufacturer depot close to stoke on trent, where we are right now , and that's where right now, and that's where they've been showing off the new pothole pro, which the jk b organisation says is one solution for the pothole problems that we have right now. now this alliance has come together to push the government together to push the government to act , and together to push the government to act, and part of that is by having a five point plan, a couple of the points on that plan relate to releasing funding, which was announced earlier last year in november, time for £83 billion in additional funds for road repairs . they want to see that repairs. they want to see that funding released more quickly right now because cause as the president of the aa, edmund king, said earlier today, speaking on gb news this is a problem today. it's speaking on gb news this is a problem today . it's not problem today. it's not a problem today. it's not a problem in the future. it's a problem in the future. it's a problem right now. and as part of national pothole day, the aa has released brand new figures that show a five year high for problems with potholes . more

problems with potholes. more than 600,000 incidents of damage to cars caused specifically by potholes. a lot of them are damage to alloy wheels , damage damage to alloy wheels, damage to tyres, punctures and they estimate that that's around five five, half £1 billion. £500 million in damage to road users . million in damage to road users. it is the number one concern for drivers because it can damage your car, costing you hundreds of pounds, thousands of pounds in a year. but for motorcyclists for six lists, it can quite literally be the difference between life and death on the roads and that's why we've seen as well as a vehicle organiser nations, as well as things like the aa. why we've seen motorcycles federations as well, calling on the government to act now to stop the pothole problem on national pothole day . on national pothole day. >> well, thank you very much. will hollis, who is in staffordshire now, potholes may seem a bit trivial sometimes

when we're talking about geopolitics, potholes , affairs, geopolitics, potholes, affairs, potholes. we all have a story . potholes. we all have a story. >> we all have a story. i think potholes right ? tell me more potholes right? tell me more than almost any other political issue i've. i've been i've hit a pothole before on my bicycle and flipped over forward, sliced through my lip . i mean, the way through my lip. i mean, the way even just driving down a road that's just slightly too bumpy, it makes you feel like you're in a third world country. also they can your can ruin your car. >> , but in more , perhaps >> yeah, but in more, perhaps more important, maybe i don't think i don't think there's much more important potholes. more important than potholes. disruption and disruption to global trade and subsequent military intervention in the middle east could see a spike in inflation. that's as the price of oil, gas and international shipping are all seeing rises . seeing rises. >> well, this comes as the tories were poised for the interest rate cuts, although not their decision . decision their decision. a decision of their decision. a decision of the of england playing the the bank of england playing the long game in the lead up to this year's general election . not year's general election. not sure about, but sure what that's all about, but the geopolitics the the geopolitics could get in the way . could for recovered way. could plans for a recovered economy all be scuppered ? and

economy all be scuppered? and well, joining us is economics and business editor for gb news liam halligan with on the money . liam halligan with on the money. liam halligan with on the money. liam just how soon would we see an effect from everything that's going on in the middle east? the disruption for trade , the disruption for trade, the delays, all of that. when might that be felt in the uk? >> well , what that be felt in the uk? >> well, what i would say tom and emily, nice to see you back, emily. thank you. um, is that actually so far, even though we've had attacks in the red sea, the gateway to the suez canal sea, the gateway to the suez canal, which is where 10% of the world's oil travels every day, even though we've had the hijacking of a big oil tanker 2000km to the east in the straits of hormuz, the entrance to the persian gulf, which accounts for 25% of the world's oil flows every day. so far, oil markets have been relatively calm . um, we've seen an increase calm. um, we've seen an increase of 3 or 4% in the price of a

barrel of oil last week. brent crude went over $80 a barrel, but nowhere near $100 a barrel. so far, i think we can be relatively reassured . offered relatively reassured. offered that a combination of saudi arabia pumping more oil, the us pumping more oil, dipping into their strategic petroleum reserves, it's keeping energy markets for now, relatively calm. but but but we have an inflation number coming out on wednesday. i can't tell you how many people in the gb newsroom have said to me this morning, liam, liam, what's the inflation number going be? fixing number going to be? i'm fixing my mortgage, what should i do? yadda say , yadda yadda yadda. and i say, always say i'm not qualified to give financial advice. but this is think. look i think is what i think. look i think the on the inflation number on wednesday seen inflation the inflation number on wednesday from seen inflation the inflation number on wednesday from double inflation the inflation number on wednesday from double digitson the inflation number on wednesday from double digits at come down from double digits at the end of 2022. of course, the target is 2. so more than five times the target. we're now at 3.9. we've seen a steady reduction, particularly in recent months. that's why the political narrative has emerged that the bank of england is going to cut interest rates going to soon cut interest rates from 5.25. might even be 2

from 5.25. they might even be 2 or 3 interest rate cuts this yean or 3 interest rate cuts this year, which is why the tories have decided to end speculation that there might be an election in may and say, actually, it's going to be in the second half of year, probably october or of the year, probably october or november . so of the year, probably october or november. so i do think the inflation number on wednesday will be benign. i do think it will be benign. i do think it will be benign. i do think it will be like 3.8, 3.7% maybe, but i don't think the bank of england is going to cut interest rates next month or even the month after . rates next month or even the month after. i think the first interest rate cut is going to come april, or even may. mortgage rates are already coming down to reflect the fact that the bank of england is going to cut rates. having said all that, if this geopolitik tension escalates, if the saudis stop pumping more oil, if tension escalates, if the saudis stop pumping more oil , if we stop pumping more oil, if we start seeing big disruptions in the straits of hormuz, rather than the one off event we had last week, all bets are off. >> ah , i'm we're squeezed . we're >> ah, i'm we're squeezed. we're coming up to the end of the houn coming up to the end of the hour. there you go. >> you more. >> you need more. >> you need more. >> there risk

>> liam, is there a risk that some of these oil producers some of these big oil producers could restrict supply in order to, boost price is. >> emily, there's this thing called opec, exporters called opec, the exporters cartel, has existed my cartel, which has existed my whole life, which is designed to restrict oil supply. the saudis , restrict oil supply. the saudis, the qataris , they've all been the qataris, they've all been doing it for ages . doing it for ages. >> well, that's all we have time for. but catch you at next for. but catch you at the next hour. houn >> looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boiler is sponsors of whether on . gb news. whether on. gb news. >> hello alex burkill here again with your latest gb news weather forecast. the cold theme is going to continue as we go through much of this week. and with that , there is the risk of with that, there is the risk of some for some of us some heavy snow for some of us at there is a cold at the moment, there is a cold arctic air plunging down from the north across the uk as we are sandwiched in between high pressure low pressure to the west and low pressure to the west and low pressure towards the east. >> northerly wind >> on that northerly wind we have seen plenty of snow have already seen plenty of snow showers continue showers and they will continue overnight, across overnight, most likely across parts of northern scotland, but also some western areas also also some western areas and also eastern parts in areas exposed

to that northerly wind, we have the seeing some further the risk of seeing some further wintry further inland , wintry showers further inland, staying largely dry with clear skies as result we're skies, and as a result we're going temperatures going to see temperatures dropping, most places a dropping, most places falling a few below freezing. dropping, most places falling a few a below freezing. dropping, most places falling a few a fairly alow freezing. dropping, most places falling a few a fairly widespread g. dropping, most places falling a few a fairly widespread . and >> so a fairly widespread. and for some us, harsh frost. for some of us, harsh frost. first tomorrow morning. first thing tomorrow morning. otherwise and as we go through tomorrow, a spell tomorrow, watch out for a spell of more persistent rain, sleet and pushing in across parts and snow pushing in across parts of northern ireland, central southern into southern scotland and into northern two could northern england. two could bnng northern england. two could bring of bring several centimetres of snow, so some disruption is possible further north across northern parts of scotland, more snow likely here. snow showers likely here. meanwhile, staying dry, bright and often sunny across the rest of england wales, of england and wales, but staying wednesday and staying cold into wednesday and we need to watch out for system towards the south of us. it may avoid the but there's avoid the uk, but there's a chance it may just fringe southern it southern counties. and if it does so, that bring some does so, that could bring some disruptive snow elsewhere. does so, that could bring some disru|thee snow elsewhere. does so, that could bring some disru|the chancezlsewhere. does so, that could bring some disru|the chance of where. does so, that could bring some disru|the chance of somez. still, the chance of some further snow showers for a time . further snow showers for a time. it's likely to turn drier as we go of week, go towards the end of the week, and temperatures will start to pick up just that little bit too . by. that warm feeling

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>> good afternoon britain. it is 1:00 on monday the 15th of january. >> sunak exclusive as the prime

minister prepares for rwanda rebellions on all fronts. this week and faces electoral wipe—out . but according to the wipe—out. but according to the most authoritative opinion polls since the 2019 election, the prime minister under pressure sits down with our political edhon sits down with our political editor. watch that exclusive in full in ten minutes time. >> yes, and child abuse failings. dozens of men still pose a potential risk to children in rochdale, warns a new report into the grooming gang scandal setting out the multiple failures by the greater manchester police and the local authority have the right lessons have been learned and, according to a brand new book, the late queen was infuriated by claims from harry and meghan that she had given her blessing for their daughter to be named lilibet , daughter to be named lilibet, which of course was her own childhood nickname. >> we'll have the very latest with our royal correspondent .

at. >> we're going to be hearing from rishi sunak in about nine minutes. >> i cannot wait. >> i cannot wait. >> well , you >> i cannot wait. >> well, you sounded a bit sarcastic . sarcastic. >> that sounded sarcastic. the point is , it's not just point is, it's not just listening to rishi sunak , it's listening to rishi sunak, it's the pointed questions from our political editor, christopher hope, particularly on some of these rwanda rebellions that we're expecting tomorrow. and on wednesday . wednesday. >> yes, he's under quite a lot of pressure to toughen up the legislation . but then from other legislation. but then from other parts of the party, they're very uneasy about the rwanda plan to begin with and very uneasy about the idea of toughening it up . so the idea of toughening it up. so he's he's stuck between a rock and a hard place, isn't he, rishi? and this is why a sit down exclusive interview is so important. >> because you can get to the detailed points that you can't do in a q&a session that you can't really understand from a speech where rishi sunak can

sort of his own pre—written sort of use his own pre—written preprint and answers. this sit down interview will hopefully get to some of those answers that we all want to hear. >> tuned for that >> yes, so stay tuned for that in about eight minutes. hearing exclusively from the prime minister. your minister. but let's get your headunes minister. but let's get your headlines sophia . headlines with sophia. >> thank you. emily good afternoon. it's 1:02. >> thank you. emily good afternoon. it's1:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . some wenzler in the gb newsroom. some breaking news out of israel. at least 91 people have been injured in a suspected stabbing and car ramming attack near tel aviv . images and car ramming attack near tel aviv. images from and car ramming attack near tel aviv . images from the scene in aviv. images from the scene in the community of rihanna show several damaged vehicles as emergency services tend to multiple injuries, a spokesperson for the police told local media that it's not yet known whether the incident is terror related. police say it's unclear how many people are involved , and it's possible that involved, and it's possible that one or more suspects may remain at large. this is a developing

story. we will bring you more as we get it. two other news more than 200 migrants crossed the engush than 200 migrants crossed the english channel in small boats at the weekend. the home office says 124 people made the crossing in three small boats on saturday, which was followed by 139 migrants in four dinghies on sunday. that's despite the poor weather conditions . it comes weather conditions. it comes after five people died on the french side of the channel yesterday, after getting into difficulties just off the coast near boulogne . the prime near boulogne. the prime minister says british strikes on houthi rebels in yemen are aimed at de—escalating tensions , as he at de—escalating tensions, as he prepares to address mps later, the government insists its decision not to consult parliament regarding the strikes was important for reasons of operational security . following operational security. following a series of attacks on commercial ships passing through the red sea , rishi sunak says the red sea, rishi sunak says tensions in the region must not be allowed to boil over. our aim is to de—escalate tensions in the region and actually restore stability city back to the area .

stability city back to the area. >> we faced an escalating series of attacks from the houthis on commercial shipping, including an attack on royal navy warship. that's unacceptable. it was right that we took proportionate , targeted action against military targets to send a strong message that that behaviour is unacceptable . it behaviour is unacceptable. it was a last resort. it came after the end of exhaustive diplomatic activity, including a un security council resolution and labour leader sir keir starmer says he understands the urgency surrounding the situation, but warns the case should be made for further military action. >> the vast majority of people across the country recognise that when urgent , across the country recognise that when urgent, operational, uh issues arise as they did in this case, then it's not possible to have a vote in parliament beforehand, particularly if it's a joint operation . operation. >> i think it's fundamentally different if there's a sustained campaign with the deployment of troops . and in those troops. and in those circumstances, i do think it's important that the prime

minister of the day comes to parliament with a viable case setting out the legal basis for the action in the uk will send 20,000 troops across europe as britain looks to counter an alarming rise in russian aggression. >> it will include deployments from the army , the navy and the from the army, the navy and the raf in what's being described as the largest nato exercise since the largest nato exercise since the cold war , defence secretary the cold war, defence secretary grant shapps is calling it a vital reassurance against the putin menace . putin menace. >> britain has often accomplished the seemingly impossible before . our history impossible before. our history is littered with moments when we faced down the threat and we have triumphed . but looking have triumphed. but looking ahead, we are in a new era and we must be to prepared deter our enemies to lead our allies and defend our nation . girls were defend our nation. girls were left at the mercy of paedophile grooming gangs due to failings

by senior police and council leaders . leaders. >> that's according to a comprehensive new report covering nearly ten years of failed investigations by greater manchester police . it highlights manchester police. it highlights years of widespread organised sexual abuse of children in the rochdale area, despite what it described as compelling evidence reported to authorities as early as 2004. greater manchester police chief constable stephen watson says the report paints a damning picture. >> the findings, evidenced within it are shocking, stark and shameful. it within it are shocking, stark and shameful . it speaks to the and shameful. it speaks to the systemic failure of various agencies to pull together and do the obvious and the right thing, and above all, it outlines in painful detail all of those missed opportunities where decisive action could and should have been taken . have been taken. >> commuters are in for a fresh series of delays as the aslef union announces more strike action. drivers will take part

in a rolling programme of one day walkouts from the end of next month , including a ban on next month, including a ban on overtime . the union says it's overtime. the union says it's aiming to put pressure on what it described as a tone deaf tory government, calling for drivers to get their first pay rise in five years. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to tom and . emily. tom and. emily. >> well, as we were saying, rishi sunak faces rebellions on quite a few fronts this week. that's as crucial parliamentary debates take place on the rwanda bill. now small boat crossings have resumed after a spell of bad weather and tragically, over the weekend, five migrants died in the english channel. >> this comes as the prime minister visits lee on sea in essex today . he sat down with essex today. he sat down with our political editor , our political editor, christopher hope, for a gb news

exclusive interview . let's take exclusive interview. let's take a listen . a listen. >> prime minister, thank you for joining us today on gb news. five people died this weekend and trying to cross to the uk. will your rwanda bill stop the deaths? yeah it's another tragic example of what this illegal trade is doing to innocent people . people. >> and you know, my you know, your heart breaks when you hear these stories about people dying. they're being exploited by criminal gangs. dying. they're being exploited by criminal gangs . and that's by criminal gangs. and that's why we've to resolve this why we've got to resolve this issue. there's lots of reasons why. and we should about why. and we should talk about them. is that them. but one of them is that innocent people are being exploited gangs . exploited by criminal gangs. that's not right. there's nothing about it. nothing compassionate about it. and compassionate and in fact, the compassionate thing tackle . thing to do is to tackle. illegal migration. and that's what our rwanda scheme will do. but that's just one of the reasons important but that's just one of the rea resolve important but that's just one of the rea resolve this important but that's just one of the rea resolve this issue, rtant but that's just one of the rea resolve this issue, because we resolve this issue, because fundamentally , illegal migration fundamentally, illegal migration just isn't fair. fundamentally, illegal migration just isn't fair . you know, we're just isn't fair. you know, we're a where where we play by a country where where we play by the rules, we put in our fair share. we wait our turn and

illegal migration undermines that sense of fairness , which i that sense of fairness, which i think is fundamental to our national character and the trust on which our system is built. and it's for that reason, especially, that we really must tackle illegal migration. that's why i made it one of my five priorities. and i'm determined to do what it takes to fix it. >> news are >> i've used the gb news are very as you very exercised by it, as you might emailed might imagine. david has emailed in the plan is in to say that the plan is political sleight hand to political sleight of hand to give an of activity to give an illusion of activity to appease and appease voters. and andy, another says the another viewer he says the rwanda policy is a complete waste of time. won't work. it waste of time. it won't work. it won't deter city of your own mps, including fellow braverman and your robert jenrick, and your friend robert jenrick, also don't currently also don't think currently drafted. . are they right? >> well , to all those questions, >> well, to all those questions, i'd say well let's look at the track record first. >> right? i've been prime minister for a year just over and in that time we've actually reduced the number of people coming over a third. coming here by over a third. that hasn't happened before. no one else managed to achieve one else has managed to achieve that. that's because done that. that's because we've done lots good work tackle this lots of good work to tackle this issue, i care about issue, because i care about it, and a lot of effort

and i've put a lot of effort into doing something about it. so that should people so that should give people a sense of my seriousness of purpose about tackling illegal migration. the fact that it's down for the first time as a result activity , and down for the first time as a resu it activity , and down for the first time as a resu it it activity , and down for the first time as a resu it it work|ctivity , and down for the first time as a resu it it work ?:ivity , and down for the first time as a resu it it work ? i'ity , and down for the first time as a resu it it work ? i believe! will it will it work? i believe deterrence work , and the deterrence does work, and the reason i have confidence in that is because of our albania program . after i became prime program. after i became prime minister, i negotiated a new deal with albania, which means we did return we can now return and did return thousands and thousands of illegal migrants back to albania last and you know what? last year. and you know what? the coming from albania the numbers coming from albania dropped by over 90, right? that shows that this deterrence works. if people come here illegally, but know that they can't stay and that they will be returned, you know what they stop coming, especially when they're people thousands they're paying people thousands of pounds facilitate the of pounds to facilitate the crossing. no point in doing that. they're going to that. if they're not going to end so i do end up staying. so look, i do believe deterrence works. our program shows that program with albania shows that it and that's why it's it works. and that's why it's important that rwanda up important that we get rwanda up and the best important that we get rwanda up and tum the best important that we get rwanda up and tum solution the best important that we get rwanda up and tum solution to he best important that we get rwanda up and tum solution to fixingt important that we get rwanda up and tum solution to fixing this long tum solution to fixing this problem and all. problem once and for all. >> week in >> you said last week in accrington you wanted bright

ideas could improve the ideas that could improve the bill. you any yet or bill. have you seen any yet or any the ideas put down the any of the ideas put down by the right bright right of the party? bright ideas, them? ideas, and will you accept them? >> that >> look, i've always said that i'm happy to have a dialogue with who thinks they with anyone who thinks they might have an idea that will improve effectiveness of the improve the effectiveness of the bill, sure that bill, whilst making sure that it's compliant, it's still legally compliant, maintains rwanda's participation in the scheme. obviously important . we might have all the important. we might have all the ideas you want, but ultimately, important. we might have all the ideas ymeansit, but ultimately, important. we might have all the ideas ymeans rwanda.timately, important. we might have all the ideas ymeans rwanda.tima stop if that means rwanda will stop participating in scheme, participating in the scheme, that's at all because that's no good at all because a policy anyone , anywhere policy without anyone, anywhere to people isn't a policy to send people to isn't a policy that's going do anyone, any that's going to do anyone, any good. and happy to have that good. and i'm happy to have that dialogue. confident that the dialogue. i'm confident that the bill that we've put forward will work. it's also the toughest piece migration legislation piece of migration legislation that seen , goes that anyone's ever seen, goes further than anyone previously was prepared to go. and if you look very practically , it look at it very practically, it systematically off all the systematically shuts off all the avenues of claim that people have tried to make before. aside some blocked modern slavery. blocked. rwanda isn't safe , blocked. rwanda isn't safe, blocked the fact that you'll be sent somewhere from rwanda, blocked human rights, spurious human rights claims they've been

disapplied. so if you go through these systematically , all these things systematically, all these things systematically, all these challenges have been blocked. and that's why leading supreme court, former supreme court judges, leading lawyers have said that they think have all said that they think the bill will do the job that it needs to do. >> so on that very then >> so on that very point, then would overrule european would you overrule european judges trying to stop flights taking off so—called rule 39 orders? look, been very clear. >> i won't let a foreign court stop us from getting flights off in this deterrent working. now, there's a clause in the bill that very specifically that that says very specifically that it for ministers to decide it is for ministers to decide whether to comply with these rule 39 rulings, as they're called . i would not have put called. i would not have put that clause in the bill if i was not prepared to use it. now, look, i don't think strasbourg will intervene because of the checks and balances in our system . and of course, there system. and of course, there will be individual circumstances that people will want to us consider facts. but if consider on the facts. but if you're asking me, you know, are there circumstance in which i'm prepared rule 39 prepared to ignore those rule 39 seconds, yes, of course

seconds, then yes, of course there are. >> why have your party failed to control illegal control legal or illegal migration since 2010? look all i can tell you is the track record that i've got over the last over the last period as prime minister, the numbers, first of all, are far too high, right? >> i'm not. i'm not in any way going to say anything other than that of legal that the numbers of legal migration are migration in this country are too high. they're putting unsustainable on on our unsustainable pressure on on our pubuc unsustainable pressure on on our public services, on local communities. it's not right. i supported brexit. many of your viewers supported brexit, partly because us to because they wanted us to control legal migration. now i'm determined to make sure that we do that and bring the numbers down. announced series down. we've announced a series of it. of measures that will tackle it. they reduce the numbers by they will reduce the numbers by hundreds . tackling hundreds of thousands. tackling student social care student dependants social care visa, which has been exploited and raising the amount of money that to earn if that people need to earn if they're going to migrate here so that undercut that we don't undercut british workers . one done workers. no one has done anything before . they anything like that before. they will reduce the numbers by around 300,000 and bring back around 300,000 and bring it back down levels. down to sustainable levels. that's what to see. and that's what i want to see. and as i said, those policies kicked in at beginning this

in at the beginning of this yeah in at the beginning of this year. start to year. so people will start to see them working over course see them working over the course of the that middle >> is the problem that middle class from cheap labour? benefit from cheap labour? i mean, do you personally get the anger felt in some red wall areas? certainly about the numbers in? numbers coming in? >> said numbers numbers coming in? >> high, said numbers numbers coming in? >> high, right? numbers numbers coming in? >> high, right? i numbers numbers coming in? >> high, right? i of numbers numbers coming in? >> high, right? i of course's numbers coming in? >> high, right? i of course i, too high, right? i of course i, i mean i voted for brexit, i supported brexit partly because i think it's important that we have over legal have control over legal migration. as coming migration. i say that as coming from of immigrants. from a family of immigrants. right. about having a right. this is about having a sustainable of migration sustainable level of migration and sure that we're also and making sure that we're also investing jobs for people investing in jobs for people here at home. it's the flip side of this also, by the way, is why we're more skills we're investing more in skills and reforming our welfare system right ? if we more to right? if we want more people to be doing jobs we're less be doing jobs here so we're less reliant on foreign labour, we've be doing jobs here so we're less reli.to on foreign labour, we've be doing jobs here so we're less reli.to be foreign labour, we've be doing jobs here so we're less reli.to be investingabour, we've be doing jobs here so we're less reli.to be investingabcskillse've be doing jobs here so we're less reli.to be investingabcskills ,/e got to be investing in skills, apprenticeships. what apprenticeships. that's what this doing. unlike this government is doing. unlike the that to the labour party that wants to halve the number of apprenticeships. we're also apprenticeships. but we're also reforming system reforming our welfare system where there are far many where there are far too many people who are being classified as work . i people who are being classified as work. i don't as not fit to work. i don't think that's right. i don't think that's right. i don't think that's right. i don't think that's fair. i want to support those people work support those people into work because that's for and because that's good for them and their dignity

because that's good for them and th the tide has gone out. has it gone for the tory gone out for the tory party? >> lots >> no, look, there's lots of polls, the there'll polls, all the time. there'll be hundreds now polls, all the time. there'll be hunythe s now polls, all the time. there'll be hunythe election, now polls, all the time. there'll be hunythe election, but now polls, all the time. there'll be hunythe election, but the now polls, all the time. there'll be hunythe election, but the onlyrv polls, all the time. there'll be hunythatelection, but the onlyrv polls, all the time. there'll be hunythat counts, but the onlyrv polls, all the time. there'll be hunythat counts, but the 0|that poll that counts is the one that actually general actually happens at the general election. the choice of that election. and the choice of that election. and the choice of that election is clear, right ? you election is clear, right? you can stick with our plan that is working, or you can go back to square one with keir starmer . square one with keir starmer. right. | square one with keir starmer. right. i firmly believe that the last year or so hasn't been easy, but we've turned a corner. the pointing in the country is pointing in the right and the progress right direction and the progress that are making starting that we are making is starting to deliver dividends for people. you can see just last you can see that just last weekend we cut taxes for everyone in work. that's that's a tax cut worth £450 for someone

earning £35,000. it shows that the progress we've made on the economy, halving inflation is delivering dividends. the plan is working. the alternative is going back to square one with keir he's leader keir starmer. he's been leader of for four of the opposition for four years. , as he said, years. not once, as he said, what he would do differently . what he would do differently. and he doesn't and that's because he doesn't have . he just snipes from have a plan. he just snipes from the sidelines and we know that they to fund they don't have a plan to fund their £28 billion borrowing spree. means taxes spree. that just means taxes going up for people. he certainly have to certainly doesn't have a plan to control our borders and stop the boats. he doesn't have plan to boats. he doesn't have a plan to control welfare. he tell control welfare. he can't tell you what he's going to say on any things. eating any of these things. eating a cup gb tea here on the cup of gb news tea here on the coast worry you're not >> do you worry you're not everyone's that everyone's cup of tea that your your earned , your wealth, which is earned, means you can't relate to what ordinary worry about? ordinary people worry about? >> say couple >> yeah, i'd say a couple of things that. you know, things about that. you know, i never the never heard that during the pandemic was chancellor pandemic when i was chancellor when i stood and announced when i stood up and announced a furlough scheme. no one said that then. right. because i think fundamental people judge you by the content of your character and your actions . and

character and your actions. and that's how people will judge me. and look, family emigrated to and look, my family emigrated to this country without very much , this country without very much, you know, my parents worked really for to provide a really hard for to provide a better life for me and my brother and sister. i worked really everything that really hard for everything that i've got. that's the of i've got. that's the type of country believe in. and if country i believe in. and if people use that as a, people want to use that as a, you know, political smear or attack, i actually it attack, i actually think it speaks volumes about their lack of ambition for our country than speaks volumes about their lack of doesition for our country than speaks volumes about their lack of does aboutyr our country than speaks volumes about their lack of does about me. r country than speaks volumes about their lack of does about me. and|ntry than speaks volumes about their lack ofdoes about me. and my' than background. >> i just finally did you wince when tax bill? when you see your tax bill? excuse me? do you do you wince when you your tax bill? when you see your tax bill? >> oh, look, taxes >> oh, look, i want taxes to come everyone . come down for everyone. >> and that's pleased >> and that's why i'm pleased that halved that because we've halved inflation year. because inflation last year. because wages are now rising, we've managed grip spending and managed to grip spending and borrowing we're now borrowing and welfare. we're now able taxes. so able to cut people's taxes. so just the other weekend, a significant tax cut. everyone in work £450 on average for someone earning £35,000. i've said i want to cut taxes more when it's responsible to do so. we also had a massive tax cut for businesses that was announced , businesses that was announced, which hundreds of businesses

described as the single most transformative thing we could do for investment in our for growth and investment in our country. look, that's my country. and look, that's my plan . that's our plan. we want plan. that's our plan. we want to control spending and welfare and that we can taxes. we and so that we can cut taxes. we are delivering that and are now delivering that and said, with the plan rather said, stick with the plan rather than back to square one with than go back to square one with keir starmer, because that's just £28 billion keir starmer, because that's jusspending £28 billion keir starmer, because that's jusspending that £28 billion keir starmer, because that's jusspending that he £28 billion keir starmer, because that's jusspending that he doesn'tion keir starmer, because that's jusspending that he doesn't know of spending that he doesn't know how to pay for, and higher taxes for everyone. >> minister, you for >> prime minister, thank you for joining cold. joining us on a freezing cold. yeah we're keeping warm with the gb joining us. >> thank you for joining us. thanks . there thanks very much. well. there you go. >> a rather chilly interview. you there. what did you make of that? >> i much enjoyed the prime >> i very much enjoyed the prime minister drinking out of one of these gb news, uh, mugs these lovely gb news, uh, mugs available , uh, on the gb news available, uh, on the gb news shop there you go, little plug. >> um, although i'm not sure how much the prime minister drinking from one will actually help sell the few you have already >> um, a few of you have already got say, actually, >> um, a few of you have already got much say, actually, >> um, a few of you have already got much it say, actually, >> um, a few of you have already got much it annoys actually, >> um, a few of you have already got much it annoys you ally, >> um, a few of you have already got much it annoys you when how much it annoys you when rishi sunak congratulates himself about cutting the numbers by a third. >> lots of people writing in that, uh uh, mark white has

rather debunked , uh, some of rather debunked, uh, some of that, some of that. >> but i think the albania thing does prove a point. right if you have somewhere to send people back , they do stop coming. so back, they do stop coming. so the albania lanes specifically by lorry instead? well, not as many . not as by lorry instead? well, not as many. not as many. >> well there you go. let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. but we're going speak christopher going to speak to christopher hope, who hope, the man of the day, who is with you go. with us now. so there you go. some points raised some interesting points raised and also some interesting answers from the prime minister. what would you pick out ? what would you pick out? >> well, i'm still here in leigh on sea where it's warmed up . uh on sea where it's warmed up. uh tom and ellie. since that interview took place, about minus degrees , i think it minus one degrees, i think it was cold. but the pm was so cold. but the pm certainly got quite feisty there. i think about whether he believes in the reasons why he's got cut. believes in the reasons why he's got cut . uh, the migration got a cut. uh, the migration numbers, some people say he doesn't understand that man of privilege. he's worked really hard to be to be one of the richest mps in parliament. he said he won't take any truck with those kind of political

smears about about his own wealth in, in words which will have resonated. uh north from here, back in westminster , he here, back in westminster, he made very clear that he would overrule the european court of human rights if it tried to stop any planes taking off. he hopes by may, if he can get his bill through the house of lords after the house of commons this week. no, no . were there about any no, no. were there about any amendments now? we heard from suella braverman, the former home secretary, on gb news on friday. she saying there that she wants to see in writing in terms measures to tighten up to harden up the bill, which she feels and so does robert jenrick her number two formally in the home office. they both think it's not enough. this rwanda bill to stop these flights taking off. he won't do anything in writing. he's merely saying, believe i say believe me, trust me when i say it. cut it. look at my record. i've cut numbers by a third with my deal with albania , although some say with albania, although some say that helped by my more that was helped by my more difficult weather last year. although again, the government hits back and says the number of

days no travelled was days where no one travelled was the year as the year the same last year as the year before. rowing before. so everyone's rowing about sunak's about whether the sunak's measures making any measures are making any progress. he say they are. progress. he would say they are. it's about fairness , he said. he it's about fairness, he said. he said he voted for brexit. i supported brexit, we have control over legal migration. he says there that legal number will come down this year as new measures come in on salary levels for legal migrants and also families coming in with other migrants. um, he kind of is trying to say he gets it. he prepared to overrule on these rule 39 from european court of human rights. um, they also you heard didn't you? off heard him, didn't you? brush off the yougov today. the polling from yougov today. this , which has this mrp polling, which has forecast result of the 2017 forecast the result of the 2017 and 2019 election, this idea of and 2019 election, this idea of a labour landslide , he wouldn't a labour landslide, he wouldn't go there. he said there were many more polls to come, hundreds polls. he said many more polls to come, hunyyear polls. he said many more polls to come, hunyyear. polls. he said this year. >> i found it fascinating how i think for one of the first times ever that i've heard him speak about, he spoke about his own family's background , and there's

family's background, and there's this impression that he's always been a multi multi—millionaire with hundreds of millions of pounds. with hundreds of millions of pounds . but he with hundreds of millions of pounds. but he said with hundreds of millions of pounds . but he said fairly pounds. but he said fairly movingly that his family, his parents came to this country legally . he parents came to this country legally. he uh, parents came to this country legally . he uh, with very little legally. he uh, with very little and they worked hard , started a and they worked hard, started a business run . that pharmacy got business run. that pharmacy got on in life. do you think, chris, this might be the start of something new that we're going to hear from the prime minister a bit more about his own family background . background. >> well, that's right, he did come, come , come. family moved . come, come, come. family moved. his family was a pharmacist. um, yeah. and he the parent the family saved to send him to winchester . he family saved to send him to winchester. he did family saved to send him to winchester . he did really well winchester. he did really well working for a hedge fund in the city. he married well city. of course, he married well into family akshata murty into the family of akshata murty , which owns chunk of infosys , which owns a chunk of infosys in india . um, , which owns a chunk of infosys in india. um, but yeah, he's saying, look, i've made my own chances. i've worked really hard for these. i didn't necessarily get a good start in life. i've worked hard to that work . worked hard to make that work. um, trust me and what i say and

his interesting, his point is interesting, isn't it? said made that it? when he said made that point, it's the start of last week, tom and emily, with that line keir starmer line from sir keir starmer saying pm doesn't saying that the pm doesn't get britain saying, look, britain well, he's saying, look, i it. i understand why i do get it. i understand why it's fair that you queued to come to this country. you can't pay come to this country. you can't pay several thousand pounds and risk life over by small risk your life over by small boats. he's trying to say to boats. so he's trying to say to people, look, trust me, look at what he said when he what i've done. he said when he stepped help stepped in to help people worried their futures with worried about their futures with the scheme , no one then the furlough scheme, no one then said, well , it's the furlough scheme, no one then said, well, it's all right, you, because you're rich, you're well off. no one raised issue of because you're rich, you're well off. own )ne raised issue of because you're rich, you're well off. own wealth ed issue of because you're rich, you're well off. own wealth .d issue of because you're rich, you're well off. own wealth . when ssue of because you're rich, you're well off. own wealth . when that of because you're rich, you're well off. own wealth . when that came his own wealth. when that came out, everyone applauded it, or many and i think his many people did. and i think his point trust my actions point is, trust me on my actions , not who i am, not who know where my wealth comes from. >> well , where my wealth comes from. >> well, yeah. thank you very much, christopher. hope our political that political editor there with that exclusive interview exclusive sit down interview with . um, with rishi sunak. um, interesting , isn't it? i'm not interesting, isn't it? i'm not sure. the fact that his , uh, you sure. the fact that his, uh, you know, family emigrated here and opened a pharmacy is really going to matter. opened a pharmacy is really going to matter . when it comes going to matter. when it comes down to i think it's important .

down to i think it's important. that's a story of many people, isn't it? >> it certainly is. but i think people have impression that people have this impression that his are landed gentry his family are landed gentry billionaires as well. >> he went to winchester college or like this. or something like this. >> but i believe was >> he did. but i believe he was on scholarship there. but, on a scholarship there. but but, you have the you know, he didn't have the most not he what i'm saying most i'm not he what i'm saying is the but he is salt of the earth, but he wasn't not vote decider. no, >> it's not a vote decider. no, i think i don't think i don't think so. i don't think so. there you go. let us so. sunak there you go. let us know about that know what you think about that interview. research by think coming up, new research by think tank onward has shown that the pubuc tank onward has shown that the public wildly undressed , state public wildly undressed, state the numbers of migrants coming to this country. curious we'll be joined by the man behind the poll after this .

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 1:28 and some breaking news now. radical islamist group hizb ut—tahrir is to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation and banned by the british government with ministers laying an order in parliament this very lunchtime , paving the way for lunchtime, paving the way for the group to be outlawed. >> yes. so joining us now is gb news home and security editor, mark white, with more of the detail . how significant is this? detail. how significant is this? it's very significant. >> there have been calls over the years, actually for hizb ut—tahrir because of its radical islamist beliefs, its extreme beliefs to be proscribed, to be

outlawed and banned as a terrorist group. success of home secretaries have resisted those calls. howeverjames secretaries have resisted those calls. however james cleverly, new into the job, has decided that this group should be banned and in particular, it's because of the way in which members of that group behaved during these protests that have taken place since . the terrible 7th of since. the terrible 7th of october attacks in israel that led to more than 1400 people being murdered by hamas. and we saw . a number of protests that saw. a number of protests that have taken place since then. there was in particular, protests that took place outside of the egyptian and the turkish embassy in london in october of last year, in which members of this group were filmed and recorded. calling for jihad, calling for muslim armies to attack israel. that seems to have been enough for james cleverly now to decide that this

group should be banned . and group should be banned. and there is an order that has just been laid before the house of commons. in a statement which has just come out from james cleverly just now , he said hizb cleverly just now, he said hizb ut—tahrir is an anti—semitic organisation that actively promotes and encourages terrorism, including praising and celebrating the appalling . and celebrating the appalling. 7th of october attacks. he goes on to say that proscribing this terrorist group will ensure that anyone who belongs to and ianes anyone who belongs to and invites support for them will face the consequences. it . will face the consequences. it. will kerb hizb ut—tahrir's ability to operate as it currently does. so that's the very latest word coming from home secretary james cleverly as he moves to outlaw hizb ut—tahrir mark. >> i'm just reading about the manifesto of hizb ut—tahrir. they say they seek to re—establish the islamic caliphate caliphate as an islamic super state, where the

muslim majority countries are unified and eventually which expands globally to include non—muslim states such as britain. how were they allowed in the first place? >> yeah. i mean , obviously >> yeah. i mean, obviously listening to the manifesto of that party, it would be worrying for people in this country and other countries in the west. but that in itself is not, of course, against the law. it's a political aim to have many people, many countries around the world, to convert to islam and to have a caliphate that in itself, although unpalatable for many people, is not breaking the law. what is breaking the law? according to the authorities in this country and now the home secretary is for members of that group to stand up and to call for muslim armies to attack israel . that clearly has crossed israel. that clearly has crossed the line. it's been enough to empower the new home secretary to act. and that is why we will see this group now banned and it

will make it very difficult, just like we've had other, uh , just like we've had other, uh, radical groups like al—muhajiroun , remember, um, al—muhajiroun, remember, um, that was led by anjem choudhury and others over the years proscribed as well. makes it then clear me against the law for anybody to be associated with this group. so going forward it will be very difficult for his boot to rear to operate in any meaningful sense. in the uk today. >> very interesting indeed. thank you very much. mark wight, our home and security editor there. about time, about a lot of people would say the government looked at the group in 2005, said whilst it was anti—semitic, anti—western , anti—semitic, anti—western, homophobic, all the rest of it, it wasn't violent. >> clearly it's crossed line . >> clearly it's crossed a line. >> clearly it's crossed a line. >> understand. why >> this i don't understand. why would success of, uh, home secretaries , you know, decide secretaries, you know, decide actually not worth prescribing when it's prescribed in many other country as including islamic countries? >> well , we allow islamic countries? >> well, we allow parties like the british national party to stand who are clearly vile and

disgraceful. i suppose it's about that, that that line of violence, rather than just hate . violence, rather than just hate. >> we're too soft in this country. let us know what you think. gb views at gb com think. gb views at gb news. com but joined by but coming up, we're joined by our panel. as rishi sunak tells gb news he not let foreign gb news he will not let foreign courts him from getting courts stop him from getting rwanda off the ground. rwanda flights off the ground. robert doesn't think robert jenrick doesn't think that's going to be the case, but we all of that after we shall see. all of that after your headlines with sophia . your headlines with sophia. thank you. >> emily, it's 133. thank you. >> emily, it's133. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room . the wenzler in the gb news room. the prime minister says he'll overrule european human rights judges if they try to stop the uk sending migrants to rwanda . uk sending migrants to rwanda. that's as dozens of conservative mps call for the rwanda to bill be toughened in a bid to deter people from making the dangerous journey in small boats across the speaking exclusively the channel speaking exclusively to gb news, rishi sunak insists tackling illegal migration is the compassionate thing to do .

the compassionate thing to do. >> another tragic example of what this illegal trade is doing to innocent people . and you to innocent people. and you know, my you know, your heart breaks when you hear these stories about people dying. they're being exploited by criminal gangs. and that's why we've got to resolve this issue . we've got to resolve this issue. there's lots of reasons why, and we talk about them. but we should talk about them. but one is that innocent one of them is that innocent people being exploited by people are being exploited by criminal not criminal gangs. that's not right. there's nothing compassionate . and in right. there's nothing comrtheionate . and in right. there's nothing comrthe compassionate and in right. there's nothing comrthe compassionate thingin right. there's nothing comrthe compassionate thing to fact, the compassionate thing to do tackle illegal do is to tackle illegal migration. and that's what our rwanda scheme will do . i've been rwanda scheme will do. i've been prime minister a yearjust prime minister for a year just oven prime minister for a year just over. that time we've over. and in that time we've actually reduced the of actually reduced the number of people coming here by over a third. that hasn't happened before. no one else has managed to that. that's because before. no one else has managed to done hat. that's because before. no one else has managed to done hat. of at's because before. no one else has managed to done hat. of good ecause before. no one else has managed to done hat. of good work.e before. no one else has managed to done hat. of good work . we've done lots of good work. >> the prime minister's comments come after it was revealed that more than 200 migrants crossed the english channel in small boats at the weekend . that's boats at the weekend. that's despite the poor weather conditions . five people died on conditions. five people died on the french side of the channel yesterday getting into yesterday after getting into difficulties just off the coast

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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. >> good afternoon britain. it's 20 to 2 and now a 15 year attempt to build a motorway east of the dartford crossing , has of the dartford crossing, has become the uk's biggest ever planning application, running to get this, more than 359,000 thousand pages and it hasn't been built , thousand pages and it hasn't been built, uh, if printed out and laid end to end, the document would be five times as long as the road itself. >> so campaigners say it's symbolic of what is wrong with this country's planning system. uh, that's exactly what you just said. yeah. in the break. yeah >> well, absolutely. let's get more on this now. joining us to

discuss the policy discuss it is the policy researcher britain remade , researcher at britain remade, ben hopkinson and ben , you've ben hopkinson and ben, you've done this research. you've found this staggering amount of paperwork. i guess it's not just all that paper. that's also a lot of money, a lot of wasted time and still no road . time and still no road. >> yes, exactly . >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> it's, um, absolutely boggling how many pages have been created for just this road project. um, forjust this road project. um, and that's not cheap. all of those pages cost lots of . money. those pages cost lots of. money. already £267 million has been spent just on the planning application itself . and that's application itself. and that's just one part of the government telling another part of the government, can i build this road? um, that £267 million is more than . norway spent. more than. norway spent. actually building the world's largest , uh, road tunnel . largest, uh, road tunnel. >> sorry, ben. can i just get that straight ? we've spent more that straight? we've spent more on the planning application for

this road tunnel than the norwegians did to build the longest road tunnel in the world, to actually build and finish the thing . finish the thing. >> yes. yeah. and to boot, they also had enough left over to build the world's deepest undersea tunnel as well. it's just so clear that our planning system is holding us back from delivering the much needed infrastructure . yeah, that infrastructure. yeah, that sounds really requires. >> now, i was just in norway and perhaps there's a bit of a cultural difference there, a more that's just it's just very good on with it. yeah get on with it. um, but ben, now we don't want a situation where anyone can build anything , anyone can build anything, anywhere, any time . although tom anywhere, any time. although tom might like that. um so what are we doing wrong ? how can this be we doing wrong? how can this be smoothed out and made easier so that we don't spend 260 million just applying to build a road ? just applying to build a road? >> well, a lot of the reason why it's been so delayed, it's been

13 years since the lower thames crossing was named a priority infrastructure project . and infrastructure project. and still spades aren't in the ground . and, um, a lot of the ground. and, um, a lot of the reason why it's been so delayed is that the requirements to do endless rounds of consultations , endless rounds of consultations, uh, and then work off the suggestions provided, and then consult on them again and provide many, many , uh, provide many, many, uh, unnecessary documents to the planning inspectorate. uh, just for them to be asked to provide more , more of what they've more, more of what they've already covered is this is this the famous newt counting that, uh, boris johnson once mentioned when he wanted to streamline planning before that all got kiboshed in parliament? >> is this sort of to some extent , >> is this sort of to some extent, environmental groups saying, well, there's a rare species of bird here and there might be a bat living here, so we can't possibly do anything until every inch of the place has surveyed . has been surveyed. >> and yeah, that's that's definitely a key component of

this. trying to placate the groups who are just always going to be against a new road being built in britain , and who will built in britain, and who will try and use every possible way to try and stop it or slow down the construction . all of which the construction. all of which just adds more uncertainty and more expense as people are caughtin more expense as people are caught in traffic jams. >> dear, oh dear, we can't get anything built. no spades in the ground. thank you very much for your time, ben hopkins, policy researcher remade. researcher at britain remade. i do like the way it was sort of, uh, so when printed, the planning application weighs three adult polar bears . three adult male polar bears. 1620kg. do you know what this is slightly different, but it relates. let's introduce our panel before i start wittering on about something else. so joining us now is former labour mp danczuk and the mp simon danczuk and the journalist and broadcaster candice hallsworth. now simon it is mind boggling as our guest said there, just how long it takes for us to do basic things like building roads. now this is different , but perhaps related

different, but perhaps related in a way . i was different, but perhaps related in a way. i was driving past the grenfell tower . now the horrific grenfell tower. now the horrific fire that broke out on that tower was in 2017. the tower is still there for everyone to see. it's covered in a big heart and it's taken millions of pounds consultations to decide what to do with that building . and i'm do with that building. and i'm looking at it and i'm thinking, do people, why does it take so long to decide things ? because long to decide things? because i'm sure that building still being there were that horrific tragedy took place . some people tragedy took place. some people must want something to be done with this building, and yet no decisions . decisions. >> and i think i think it's relatively new. >> i'm talking in terms of years rather than, you know , months. rather than, you know, months. >> but we suddenly have got to a stage where inquiries take forever . forever. >> we're looking at covid much longer than inquiries in any other country in relation to covid. you mentioned grenfell. this credit to britain remade for conduct in the research that

they have to show that the lower thames crossing , which is well thames crossing, which is well known in infrastructure , uh, known in infrastructure, uh, circles as a major project that needs doing , but this just needs doing, but this just illustrates what problem we've got in the uk kingdom. and i make the point that it's a relatively new problem. we used to be so good at infrastructure projects , acas and look where we projects, acas and look where we are now with hs2 for this project or the project . it's project or the project. it's just get stuck and we have to have and i can't understand why a conservative government of all governments would not want to cut back on the bureaucracy and the red tape and make these projects happen more quickly . i projects happen more quickly. i just don't get it. >> it's extraordinary. candace what do you make of this? because another stat that really stuck of this stuck out to me. if all of this paperwork of paperwork was stacked on top of each it'd the each other, it'd be twice the height of the angel of the north. yes yes. >> well, i mean, i don't know if you read spectator you read the, um, spectator writer sutherland , he writer rory sutherland, he writes so well on how the bureaucracy starts to strangle productive activity. and you see

this in so many organisations , this in so many organisations, and we see this with building infrastructure . infrastructure. >> i mean, you mentioned hs2, one of the reasons that the costs so wildly out of costs ran so wildly out of control all these consulting control was all these consulting parts that they were hiring and to give you insight, i think to give you an insight, i think you're an britain put you're at an in britain is put very productivity . very poor productivity. >> and this is one of the reasons that a very reasons that we're not a very productive to productive country. but to give you because hs2, you an insight, because hs2, because it's a rail project , it because it's a rail project, it has to go through parliament because such because we have such a convoluted process. it has to go through parliamentary process through a parliamentary process and little known fact, which might be denied by of the might be denied by some of the whips of the, whips in some of the, uh, parties in parliament, is that if you sit on these committees, you are assured of an honour at the end of it . wow. that is what the end of it. wow. that is what said. if you put the effort in because it's boring , up on because it's boring, up on bonng because it's boring, up on boring and hours upon hours and days upon days and years upon years, sitting on these committees, you are guaranteed an at end of it. if an honour at the end of it. if you met that commitment, what sort of process that? sort of process is that? >> extraordinary. i just, >> it's extraordinary. i just, uh, just bookend this uh, just to bookend this hundreds millions pounds

uh, just to bookend this hundryon millions pounds uh, just to bookend this hundryon trying.lions pounds uh, just to bookend this hundryon trying to ns pounds uh, just to bookend this hundryon trying to get pounds uh, just to bookend this hundryon trying to get apounds uh, just to bookend this hundryon trying to get a road ds spent on trying to get a road without this road , people trying without this road, people trying to get from essex to kent. i have to go through london. i have to go through london. i have to go through london. i have to sit in hours of traffic . have to sit in hours of traffic. the that on our the dampener that puts on our productivity on on business, on, on time of being able to actually do things in this country extraordinary . but country is extraordinary. but there's stories get there's other big stories to get to mainly the prime to, too. mainly the prime minister saying that he's open to amendments on this crucial rwanda legislation. candace, it's appearing before the house of commons on tuesday and wednesday . what's going to happen? >> oh, i don't know , because i >> oh, i don't know, because i mean, i saw when you were talking earlier, you were saying about managing the two caucuses of the conservative how of the conservative party how do you satisfy these factions? of the conservative party how do youand sfy these factions? of the conservative party how do youand in these factions? of the conservative party how do youand in hisese factions? of the conservative party how do youand in his interview, :tions? of the conservative party how do youand in his interview, he 1s? of the conservative party how do youand in his interview, he says >> and in his interview, he says he they will be satisfied he thinks they will be satisfied by because he's got all by this because he's got all these, um , uh, commitments in these, um, uh, commitments in these, um, uh, commitments in the to bill say that if strasbourg tries to challenge it, it's up to ministers. >> but he doesn't think strasbourg involved. >> so he clearly trying to >> so he is clearly trying to satisfy these various factions.

but you can see they're gearing up for another fight again. and i just if they're i just wonder if they're thinking , i just wonder if they're thinking, we're going to thinking, well, we're going to lose anyway. lose the next election anyway. we about we don't really care about looking united. yes. looking united. well, yes. >> former immigration >> the, uh, former immigration minister, who of resigned minister, who of course resigned over bill jenrick over this bill robert jenrick wrote a very strong piece in the telegraph. i think it was , uh, telegraph. i think it was, uh, saying that this bill, as it is, will not end the merry go round of legal challenges , that it of legal challenges, that it will be still difficult to deport people to rwanda or anywhere else. simon >> yeah, well, i'm not qualified . legally qualified to determine whether the legislation will ensure our deportation. i support the policy because you have to break the people smugglers business model. and as you've shown in earlier clips, you've shown in earlier clips, you know , people are dying you know, people are dying crossing the channel uh, and that's because of that's the that's because of people smugglers. so we have to have something that does that. labour plan at in labour has no plan at all in terms this issue . and i was terms of this issue. and i was quite by the prime quite impressed by the prime minister's interview there. he talked game , but he's got talked a good game, but he's got to the next couple of

to show in the next couple of weeks that he's going to get this through, and then he's going deporting people going to start deporting people to where i've just to rwanda, where i've just literally come back from and can safely say, because i've been there many times, it's an exceptionally safe country, one of the safest countries i've ever visited. >> and it's a point also that i've >> and it's a point also that pve you i've been wondering about, you know, does know, say rishi sunak does manage wants manage to achieve what he wants to he gets this to achieve and he gets this bill through will keir starmer through what will keir starmer do? mean, flights go in the do? i mean, if flights go in the air and they start getting people just people to rwanda, i'm just saying goes the saying if everything goes the right would keir right way, why would keir starmer reverse that ? starmer then reverse that? because it said because it's successful . successful. >> absolutely madness >> absolutely absolute madness and yet has no alternative policy to tackle it i know. >> so other than thinking keir starmer has had some extremely weak interviews recently, he has said he would avoiding setting out any policy commitments, really what he would say in response to that is that he would go after the criminal gangs , rather than focus on a on gangs, rather than focus on a on a deterrent or a doddie aid strategy . strategy. >> of course, what the government would say to that is

that's what the home office and the arms of the the and various arms of the state have been doing. i wonder, though, simon, having returned, i believe just this very morning from rwanda , one of the from rwanda, one of the arguments that the prime minister makes is if things go much further , rwanda itself is much further, rwanda itself is at risk of pulling out of the dealif at risk of pulling out of the deal if it's seen to be breaking international law, that's not something the rwandan government would want to be involved with. having just been to the country. is sense get? is that the sense you get? >> well, they very >> well, they are a very conscientious government and country . you know, so on one country. you know, so on one level, they want to do what's right internationally . right internationally. >> they already take, uh, asylum seekers on behalf of the united nafions seekers on behalf of the united nations from libya. and took some, most recently , which some, most recently, which proves the point that . uh, we proves the point that. uh, we should be able to send, uh, asylum seekers, illegal immigrants there because they already it. but they can't be already do it. but they can't be pushed too far. you know, they have their, they have their have their, uh, they have their agenda to follow as well . so the agenda to follow as well. so the prime minister's right. prime minister's probably right. you can only them far on

you can only push them so far on these issues . but i you can only push them so far on these issues. but i think the sticking is in courts. sticking block is in the courts. and europe convention and the, uh, europe convention on human rights, i think we have to get to a stage where we're actually pulling that. actually pulling out of that. i think ultimate has to think that's an ultimate has to be aim , not just for be an ultimate aim, not just for this, for various issues. >> there's divide, isn't this, for various issues. >> th candace divide, isn't this, for various issues. >> th candace , divide, isn't this, for various issues. >> th candace , individe, isn't this, for various issues. >> th candace , in the ie, isn't there, candace, in the conservative party about that issue of the echr? yes yes. the likes of damian green , likes of damian green, considering that beyond the pale saying that would not be a conservative thing to do, others adam ant like suella braverman robert jenrick to a lesser extent, that that is the only way to actually be able to come up with a scheme that will work to stop the illegal immigration problem . problem. >> i know, and how do you reconcile that? it's very difficult to get those sides difficult to get those two sides to together and compromise. difficult to get those two sides t

said in that interview, he d01he's challenge said in that interview, he d01he's sort challenge said in that interview, he d01he's sort of challenge said in that interview, he d01he's sort of hoping1allenge said in that interview, he d01he's sort of hoping thatnge it. he's sort of hoping that they satisfied. so he's they will be satisfied. so he's hoping to skirt issue hoping to skirt the issue entirely . but i don't know what entirely. but i don't know what they're going to with this they're going to do with this being so major. >> fundamentally, to work >> fundamentally, it has to work . otherwise, all of that trust that's been lost will certainly not built back. not be built back. >> course, the prime >> well, of course, the prime minister recently minister was only recently talking about how he's managed some of these pyjama some reform of these pyjama injunctions. rule 39 injunctions. these rule 39 orders. there has been some international collaboration to say , hang on, this went far, too say, hang on, this went far, too far. so i wonder if he's hoping that the echr has been depher and to some extent , well, maybe. and to some extent, well, maybe. >> maybe , maybe we shall see. we >> maybe, maybe we shall see. we shall see. um, thank you very much. former labour mp simon danczuk always great to speak to you and journalist and broadcaster can ipsis holsworth will be returning to our panel later on the next hour, but later on in the next hour, but we want to hear from you as well. >> what did you make of what the prime minister had to say in his exclusive sit down interview with christopher hope? this very hour? email in

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>> good afternoon . britain. >> good afternoon. britain. >> good afternoon. britain. >> it's 2:00 on monday the 15th of january. >> sunak exclusive. the prime minister under pressure tells gb news political editor christopher hope that he will not let foreign courts stop him from getting rwanda flights off the ground . this comes as brand the ground. this comes as brand new figures show 263 channel

migrants crossed to the uk just this weekend . this weekend. >> new research by a think tank has shown that the public, while widely underestimated how many migrants arrived in the uk last year by ten times, we'll be speaking to the man behind the figures. yes yes and child abuse failings . failings. >> dozens of men still pose a potential risk to children in rochdale , warns a new report rochdale, warns a new report into the grooming gang scandal setting out the multiple failures by the greater manchester police and the local authority to have the right lessons being learned . lessons being learned. this think tank, polling that we mentioned there about how people are under estimating the level of immigration is quite interesting because it also shows us that 9 in 10 constituencies want to cut immigration, and there's quite a lot of analysis kicking around,

showing that immigration is or could be the deciding factor for conservative voters. so . rishi conservative voters. so. rishi sunak he needs to prove he can actually cut it and that he cares about it. he says he cares about it. he says wants to about it. he says he wants to lower he? lower it, but can he? >> there are all of these lower it, but can he? >> measures are all of these lower it, but can he? >> measures coming of these lower it, but can he? >> measures coming in thesethis new measures coming in from this yeah new measures coming in from this year. it's the students . year. it's the ban on students. it's bringing in dependants unless they're phd students, which like an eminently which seems like an eminently sensible way to close what was frankly an abused loophole in the system. there's also the new higher threshold for earnings that's coming in this year. all of this together might mean that the numbers that come out in the summer could be lower, perhaps substantial , lower than those substantial, lower than those next year. would that filter through? because one of the things about this polling is that people generally underestimate or people the numbers that we talk about every day, the numbers that people listen to, shows this will listen to, shows like this will know. well, most people aren't plugged into the news all the time . most. the question is, how time. most. the question is, how

much will it flow through? yeah, but if told the real number, how gobsmacked will people be up and down the country ? down the country? >> and if they want it cut from ten times smaller, number down, down, then of course from the 760 odd net figure. and that's the net figure. they're going to want absolutely slashed want that. absolutely slashed down. so there you go. let us know what you think. >> could also could also mean that good at that people aren't very good at estimating what sort of numbers mean could mean that >> well, yes, it could mean that to let us know what you think. are by that? are you surprised by that? that people estimated the people have under estimated the level ? perhaps they level of migration? perhaps they couldn't believe that would couldn't believe that it would be of thousands. be in the hundreds of thousands. still us know views gb be in the hundreds of thousands. still com. (now views gb be in the hundreds of thousands. still com. but/ views gb be in the hundreds of thousands. still com. but let'sviews gb be in the hundreds of thousands. still com. but let's get/s gb be in the hundreds of thousands. still com. but let's get yourgb news. com. but let's get your headunes news. com. but let's get your headlines with sophia . thanks emily. >> good afternoon. it's 2:02. i'm sofia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the prime minister newsroom. the prime minister says he'll overrule european human rights judges if they try to stop the uk sending migrants to stop the uk sending migrants to rwanda. that says dozens of

conservative mps call for the rwanda bill to be toughened in a bid to deter people from making the dangerous journey in small boats across the channel. speaking exclusive to gb news, rishi sunak insists tackling illegal migration is the compassionate thing to do . compassionate thing to do. >> your heart breaks when you hear these stories about people dying. they're being exploited by criminal gangs and that's why we've got to resolve this issue. there's lots of reasons why, and we should talk about them, but one of them is that innocent people exploited by people are being exploited by criminal . that's not criminal gangs. that's not right. there's nothing compassionate it. and in compassionate about it. and in fact, compassionate fact, the compassionate thing to do tackle illegal do is to tackle illegal migration. and that's what our rwanda scheme will do . i've been rwanda scheme will do. i've been prime a year just prime minister for a year just oveh prime minister for a year just over. in that time we've over. and in that time we've actually reduced number of actually reduced the number of people coming here by over a third. hasn't happened third. that hasn't happened before. no one else has managed to achieve that . to achieve that. >> the prime minister's comments come after it was revealed that more than 200 migrants crossed the english channel in small boats at the weekend . that's

boats at the weekend. that's despite the poor weather conditions . five people died on conditions. five people died on the side of the channel the french side of the channel yesterday after getting into difficulties just off the coast near boulogne . two palestinians near boulogne. two palestinians have carried out coordinated car rammings in central israel, killing a woman and injuring 12 others. images from the scene of one of the attacks in ra'anana , one of the attacks in ra'anana, near tel aviv, show several damaged vehicles as emergency services tend to multiple injuries . police described the injuries. police described the incident as a terrorist attack and said two suspects are under arrest . there has not yet been arrest. there has not yet been any claim of responsible party. the labour leader says that any future interventions in the red sea should be discussed in parliament. the government insists its decision not to consult mps regarding british strikes on houthi rebels was important for reasons of operational security , following operational security, following a series of attacks on commercial ships, sir keir starmer says he understands the urgency surrounding security situations in the region. >> the vast majority of people

across the country recognise that when urgent operational uh issues arise, as they did in this case, then it's not possible to have a vote in parliament beforehand, particularly if it's a joint operation. i think it's fundamentally different if there's a sustained campaign with the deployment of troops . with the deployment of troops. and in those circumstances, i do think it's important that the prime minister of the day comes to parliament with a viable case, setting out the legal bafis case, setting out the legal basis for the action. >> the uk will send 20,000 troops across europe in what's been called a vital reassurance against the putin menace . it'll against the putin menace. it'll include deployments from the army, the navy and the raf , army, the navy and the raf, making it the largest nato exercise since the cold war. the drill involves 31 nations with the defence secretary saying troops will be prepared for invasion of a nato member state by any aggressor. girls were left at the mercy of paedophile grooming gangs due to failings by senior police and council

leaders. that's according to a comprehensive new report covering nearly ten years of failed investigation by greater manchester police . it highlights manchester police. it highlights years of widespread organised sexual abuse of children in the rochdale area, despite what it described as compelling evidence reported to authorities as early as 2004. greater manchester police chief constable stephen watson says the report paints a damning picture. >> the findings evidenced within it are shocking , stark and it are shocking, stark and shameful . it speaks to the shameful. it speaks to the systemic failure of various agencies to pull together and do the obvious and the right thing , the obvious and the right thing, and above all, it outlines in painful detail all of those missed opportunities where decisive action could and should have been taken . have been taken. >> commuters are in for fresh series of delays as the aslef union announces more strike action. drivers will take part in a rolling programme of one

day walkouts from the end of next month, including a ban on overtime. the union says it's aiming to put pressure on what it describes as a tone deaf tory government, calling for drivers to get their first pay rise in five years and we're in for some chilly days ahead as cold air blowing in from the arctic bnngs blowing in from the arctic brings snow and ice to parts of the country . key national the country. key national highways issued a severe highways has issued a severe weather alert for snow affecting the north west, with people advised to stick to the main roads. the met office warns temperatures will around six temperatures will be around six degrees or lower. lower than usual for this time of year. degrees or lower. lower than usual for this time of year . a usual for this time of year. a snow and ice warning is also in place across northern place tomorrow across northern ireland, scotland and east anglia . this is gb news across anglia. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. back tom and .

emily >> well, rishi sunak, he faces rebellions on multiple fronts. this week. that's as crucial parliamentary debates take place on the rwanda bill. now small boat crossings have resumed after a spell of bad weather and tragic . over the weekend, five tragic. over the weekend, five migrants died in the english channel. >> it comes as the prime minister visits leon on sea in essex today . earlier, he sat essex today. earlier, he sat down with our very own political edhoh down with our very own political editor, christopher hope, and said he would overrule european judges if they were to block rwanda flights . rwanda flights. >> well, christopher hope joins us now to discuss what he heard from the prime minister. now well, it's very interesting . well, it's very interesting. it's quite hard for people to know what to believe here because you have rishi sunak saying that the bill will work, deportations will go ahead and that he will, if needed, overrule european courts . overrule european courts. however, you have the likes of robert jenrick, the former immigration minister, and suella braverman raising concerns that actually this bill won't stop

the merry go round, as they call it, of legal challenges. so what's the truth here? christopher . christopher. >> well, emily, that's exactly right. the truth is unknowable, as it always is in politics and in life. as we look forward into the future. but shapps and is thinks he can get it through. he thinks he can get it through. he thinks he's gone as far as he can with rwanda. the african country where these illegally arrived migrants will be deported to, and also with a left of his but of left of his party. but of course, those right, course, those on the right, 60 tory have of backing tory mps have of backing amendments to make it firmer and harder, including robert jenrick and braverman . miss and suella braverman. miss braverman, of course, spoke to us on friday about her concerns. she's been very clear that she thinks that this will not not result in in that many, if at all, migrants taking off now , all, migrants taking off now, the pm thinks it can all work and the first flights take off. well, we'll wait and see. we started with the interview here with the pm in leigh on sea earlier today, asking him about the five deaths in the channel

over the weekend . over the weekend. >> tragic example of what this illegal trade is doing to innocent people. and you know, my you know, your heart breaks when you hear these stories about people dying. they're being exploited by criminal gangs. and that's why we've got to resolve this issue. there's lots of reasons why, and we should talk about them. but one of that innocent people of them is that innocent people are by criminal are being exploited by criminal gangs. are being exploited by criminal gangs . that's not right. there's gangs. that's not right. there's nothing compassionate about it. and the compassionate and in fact, the compassionate thing tackle illegal thing to do is to tackle illegal migration. and that's what our rwanda scheme will i've been rwanda scheme will do. i've been prime minister for a year, just over and in that time we've actually reduced the number of people coming here by over a third. hasn't happened third. that hasn't happened before. no one else has managed to achieve that. that's because we've good work . we've done lots of good work. >> it's really interesting. chris that the prime minister seemed open to some amendments, but he attached conditions . to but he attached conditions. to those amendments when the rwanda bill goes to a committee of the full house of commons tomorrow

and on wednesday, he said they need to be within international law and keeping the rwandans on side. how are open ? did you side. how are open? did you sense he genuinely was to some of these amendments . of these amendments. >> well, that's right, he feels he's gone as far as he can. he's talked before hasn't he, about collapsing the deal of rwanda. if it goes any further in terms of trying to support of human rights set in strasbourg , rights set in strasbourg, friends of robert jenrick have been saying to me today that his own attorney general has said the opposite and clearly that there could be a battle being being set here. >> um, chris, really sorry, but your line is breaking up. you've actually frozen on our screen. >> classic rural brought banned in the united kingdom . you can't in the united kingdom. you can't get anything done. it's almost as if you should know elianne see no 5g and leigh on sea and, um, and probably not enough

lines to get , uh, to get fibre lines to get, uh, to get fibre optic broadband . optic broadband. >> sorry about that. >> sorry about that. >> yeah, well, let's cross now to graham stringer, the labour mp blackley broughton mp for blackley and broughton and um, graham it is a very, very big week in parliament. this week, particularly with regard to that committee of the whole house on tuesday and wednesday . what's your sense to wednesday. what's your sense to talking colleagues on your side of the house, talking to colleagues on the government benches as well, just how much of a showdown will this bill present ? well it's very present? well it's very different talking to my colleagues and talking to conservatives, my colleagues are absolutely convinced, uh, this is an ineffective bill that won't do anything to take back control of our borders and take control of our borders and take control of our borders and take control of . immigration to control of. immigration to talking to conservatives on the right of the conservative party >> they are. one added that the

bill is, again, is in effective and that the centre of their party will not not compromise with them . and they were they're with them. and they were they're worried that the conservative party will split asunder , uh, on party will split asunder, uh, on this issue that they, they think that if the prime minister concedes to their demand is that the bill is toughened up, concedes to their demand is that the bill is toughened up , that the bill is toughened up, that the bill is toughened up, that the centre of the party will vote with my party, the labour party, and bring the bill down and could destroy the conservative party and certainly not only could it bring the bill down, but potentially it could bnng down, but potentially it could bring the government down. now, usually when the whips know that the rebellions on and the government knows there are problems , it gets sorted before problems, it gets sorted before then on whether it will or not, i don't know, but there is certainly jeopardy in the air for the government .

for the government. >> rating . um, for a lot of our >> rating. um, for a lot of our viewers and listeners is that the labour party will stand against the rwanda bill. they'll vote against it. but yet we don't hear a solid plan coming from the labour party . an from the labour party. an alternative. we hear about smashing the criminal gangs. that's what keir starmer says over and over again. but the conservatives would say that they're already trying to do that and they're already trying to cooperate with french to cooperate with the french more . more. >> i think the labour party policy needs toughening up . policy needs toughening up. certainly we can't control albanian gangs in different in our major cities , in london, in our major cities, in london, in our major cities, in london, in our major cities in this country. how we can deal with international gangs, some of which are based in, uh, countries a long way away or some based in, in france. i would need yvette at the shadow home secretary in keir to

explain to me how we can be more effective with these international gangs than we are with the gangs that are dealing drugs in many of our cities . with the gangs that are dealing drugs in many of our cities. i think the policy makes sense on paper , but pragmatically we paper, but pragmatically we haven't we haven't done very well against gangs in this country over the last 20 years. so, graham, how much further would you like to see your party go? >> what specific would you like to see? perhaps in the labour manifesto a little bit later this year, a competitor scheme to rwanda , perhaps ? well i think to rwanda, perhaps? well i think the, the theory behind the rwanda scheme is if you threaten to send people to rwanda, they won't try to cross the channel >> i think that's always been a nonsense . if people are willing nonsense. if people are willing to risk their lives at the

present time, crossing the channel present time, crossing the channel, are they likely to stop because of the threat of a plane flight to rwanda? but greg graham, hang on just for one second. >> uh, just just look at what happened to albanian migrant s. they were told that if they were to come across on a small boat, we had a returns agreement. they would be sent back to albania. we to send, but we only we started to send, but we only sent back a few thousand . and sent back a few thousand. and then they stopped then what happened? they stopped coming knew they coming because they knew if they got , they would be got to the uk, they would be deported. isn't the same deported. now isn't the same logic going to work with other nationalities? if we have a third country, a safe third country to send these people to? >> i think the issue there was that was with the support of the albanian government and these were albanian citizens who were coming across. so i, i mean, you make a good point, but i don't think it's an overwhelming point

. but when you're talking about people who are coming from much further afield than albania, they're not in europe and they are wanting to come to this country and their own governments aren't party to this. so i don't think that is the case. i mean, there there are a whole variety of people coming across the channel on boats as the prime minister in the piece you did before was talking about them as though they were all all genuine asylum seekers , and many are will have seekers, and many are will have valid cases to get refugee statuses . probably the best way statuses. probably the best way to put it. but some of them themselves are criminals. i've got an area in my constituency , got an area in my constituency, kc, where the police have been trying to crack down on the sale of facsimile goods and other things. it's the area has been run by gangs and the police are doing a good job. but they say that from time to time they have

cleared out warehouses full of these counterfeit goods and within days people who've come over the channel on the boats are in those warehouses trying to distribute them again . so it to distribute them again. so it to distribute them again. so it to assume that there is one answer to to, the boats sending them to rwanda is wrong. i think we have to take control of our borders , and we have to make the borders, and we have to make the decisions ourselves. however we do it . i think decisions ourselves. however we do it. i think the decisions ourselves. however we do it . i think the interference do it. i think the interference from , uh, foreign courts as has from, uh, foreign courts as has been a real problem and how that is done, uh , is a question the is done, uh, is a question the labour party has to answer. and i agree with the point that was made before that. we have to answer that question. yes absolutely. >> because otherwise a vote for labouris >> because otherwise a vote for labour is essentially a vote for going back to the drawing board when this issue, when it comes to this issue, we need a strong plan for need to have a strong plan for people actually assess so people to actually assess so they know what they're voting for. very much. for. but thank you very much. graeme . graeme stringer. >> oh go on, graham, just

quickly , i was just going to say quickly, i was just going to say in one sense, going back to the drawing board is better than trying to pursue a scheme that is almost bound to fail. trying to pursue a scheme that is almost bound to fail . well, is almost bound to fail. well, there we are. graham stringer, thank you very much for talking us through those big two days coming in parliament. uh coming up in parliament. uh graham stringer there. of course, labour member of parliament. >> yes , indeed. now, new >> yes, indeed. now, new research by the think tank onward has shown that the public wildly underestimate just how many migrants arrived in the uk last year. by ten, ten times. so shall we speak to onward project director gavin rice? gavin, thank you very much. very interesting research . i must interesting research. i must admit, i've only looked at the top line . i've seen this that top line. i've seen this that the general public underestimate the general public underestimate the number migrants last year the number of migrants last year by a factor of ten, which is on its own, is quite remarkable. then you've also coupled this with polling that shows 9 in 10 constituencies want immigration to be cut. is the general gist here that, uh , immigration is here that, uh, immigration is going to be an absolutely huge

issue when it comes to the election in. >> well, good afternoon to both of you. thanks for having me on. >> i think it is going to be a very big issue at the next election. i think there's no denying economy denying that the economy and the cost living will remain the cost of living will remain the most prominent and the most salient issue, but that doesn't mean that it is the only one. what the poll that onward has published is that published today reveals is that actually a very large majority of voters, 76, believe that legal immigration. so this is legal immigration. so this is legal economic migration rather than the illegal kind should be reduced. and as you say, that's a majority . we also found in a majority. we also found in nine out of ten parliamentary constituencies . so that's a constituencies. so that's a very, very, very clear margin win. we also found that there was that was the majority view amongst different age groups as well . um, and amongst different age groups as well. um, and across historic voting patterns as well. so conservative voters and labour voters. so there's a very clear gap between what current migration policy under the

current rules is delivering and what voters are telling us that they would actually like to see. >> gavin, i'm really interested in idea people will in this idea that people will underestimate the amount of migration coming to the uk. is that because potentially a lot of migration often goes to big cities , and so a lot of people cities, and so a lot of people haven't really felt a huge influx in many parts of the country. it's very concentrated perhaps in some in some areas or frankly , is it just that asking frankly, is it just that asking this question isn't particularly useful because people are very, very bad at judging big numbers. when you talk about hundreds of thousands , millions or billions thousands, millions or billions or it all sounds the or trillions, it all sounds the same . same. >> well, i think it's right that sometimes the scale of these very large numbers can be hard to get our heads around. think to get our heads around. i think what was get what we wanted to do was get a sense actual sense of what people's actual perception of the current status quo is. there are a lot of polls that show consistently that people want immigration to go .

people want immigration to go. down uh, um, there might be a small minority who are okay with it think that should it or even think that it should go that's very common go up. that's not a very common view. were keen to view. but, um, we were keen to dig into what people actually believe and we believe it to be. and what we found average found is that the average response so that's response was 70,000. so that's ten times less than what it actually is. we had net migration last year of around . migration last year of around. 675,000. and but the interesting thing is that even though people think it's so much lower than it actually is, they still think that too high and think that it's too high and think that it's too high and think that should be somewhat less that it should be somewhat less than currently is. so there than it currently is. so there really gap here between really is a big gap here between current where the current policy and where the electorate is. >> rishi sunak >> absolutely. and rishi sunak might want us to focus on illegal migration on on his stopping the boats pledge, but it is legal migration that people extremely concerned people are extremely concerned about the high levels. thank you very much, gavin . thank you. very much, gavin. thank you. sorry, but sorry, short but sweet, but great you on onward great to get you on onward project director there. well coming up, we'll be joined by our security editor as report s come in that a commercial vessel has been hit by a missile in the

gulf of adar of aden . gulf of adar of aden. >> don't go anywhere

isabel monday to thursdays from 6:00 till 930. good afternoon . good afternoon. >> in britain it's 2:26 and we're joined now by our security editor as reports come in that a commercial vessel has been a vessel has been hit by a missile

in the gulf of aden . uh, mark in the gulf of aden. uh, mark white joins us now. mark, uh, what are the details that we've heard? well busy old news day today. >> i have to say . and this >> i have to say. and this latest news coming through from the area just south of yemen , the area just south of yemen, uh, suggesting that a missile fired from yemen has struck, as you say, that commercial ship . you say, that commercial ship. now, this has come from the uk maritime operations , uh, trade maritime operations, uh, trade operations centre , which is operations centre, which is a royal naval reserve nerve centre that was set up really to give security advice to commercial shipping out , out in that part shipping out, out in that part of the world, given all the threats that they face, they are monitoring activities . his they monitoring activities. his they say that a vessel was struck from above by a missile , that from above by a missile, that that vessel has sustained damage to the port side. obviously we don't know at this stage how much damage that ship has

sustained and whether it may be in some real difficulties in terms of the damage it sustained . but nonetheless being . struck . but nonetheless being. struck by a missile. clearly a serious escalation. we're also getting reports , uh, through that it may reports, uh, through that it may have been a us owned bulk carrier. this is coming from ambrey , uh, who's a maritime , ambrey, uh, who's a maritime, uh, trade operations . uh, centre uh, trade operations. uh, centre as well . ambrey reporting that a as well. ambrey reporting that a us flagged bulk carrier has been struck . so we are assuming that struck. so we are assuming that thatis struck. so we are assuming that that is the same incident. but of course, this is coming after we have had these warnings just again today from the prime minister rishi sunak, from the defence secretary, grant shapps from their counterparts in the us , that although they do not us, that although they do not want to strike yemen again, that the attacks that were launched by the us and the uk were limited and proportionate. if

the yemenis continue and i say the yemenis continue and i say the yemenis, i mean the houthi rebels, of course, uh , if the rebels, of course, uh, if the houthi rebels within yemen continue and persist with their attacks on commercial shipping and naval vessels , then further and naval vessels, then further strikes may well be inevitable . strikes may well be inevitable. >> yeah. so it's likely that this will prompt a military response . response. >> well, this specific incident might or might not. we don't we don't know at this stage, but it does come after just yesterday . does come after just yesterday. today, uh, there were reports that the uss laboon, which is destroyer inaya out there as part of the us naval task force, was targeted by a missile. it was targeted by a missile. it was taken out by that ship's defence systems . and also just defence systems. and also just on friday, another vessel, an oil tanker , uh, was, uh, came oil tanker, uh, was, uh, came under fire from a missile that was fired again just south of aden in the gulf of aden , which

aden in the gulf of aden, which is the, uh, the area of sea that leads up to the red sea itself . leads up to the red sea itself. um, that, uh, oil tanker. but luckily, the missile missed. it landed about 4 to 500m away from that particular tanker. but this one, this commercial ship, uh, a freight carrier, we believe was struck , damaged on the port side struck, damaged on the port side . and we await more details . . and we await more details. >> well, mark white, thank you so much for bringing us those details as we get them. of course, we're expecting a statement from the prime minister in just under hour. minister in just under an hour. now, in the house of commons that refer to last that was going to refer to last week's strikes on the houthi rebels. i would now be shocked if didn't also talk about if it didn't also talk about this latest incident and perhaps further action that the raf might get involved in. >> absolutely. and we be told it's going to be quite a detailed statement. of course, with this most recent update now , it may well be a long statement . statement. >> perhaps rishi sunak would have been hoping that the whole conflict would been conflict there would have been

caramelised it would been conflict there would have been carame but! it would been conflict there would have been carame but no,t would been conflict there would have been carame but no, itvould been conflict there would have been carame but no, it seems been conflict there would have been carame but no, it seems to been conflict there would have been carame but no, it seems to be zen frozen. but no, it seems to be hotting anything . hotting up. if anything. >> yes. coming up, >> well, yes. well, coming up, red card for lineker . gary red card for lineker. gary lineker comes as the presenter retweets calls for israel to be banned from football . banned from football. >> but first the headlines mr. farage >> thanks, emily. it's 232. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . we start with some newsroom. we start with some breaking news. the uk's maritime organisation is warning vessels to sail with caution after reports of another attack on a ship southeast of yemen's port of aden. this latest report is the second incident since the us and uk joint strikes on houthi rebels . it's understood this rebels. it's understood this latest vessel is us owned in the uk, the prime minister says. britain needs to send a strong signal that attacks in the red sea won't be tolerated . the sea won't be tolerated. the prime minister says he'll

overrule european human rights judges if they try to stop the uk sending migrants to rwanda. that's as dozens of conservative mps call for the rwanda bill to be toughened in a bid to deter people from making the dangerous journey in small boats across the channel. speaking exclusively to gb news, rishi sunak insists tackling illegal migration is the compassionate thing to do. >> your heart breaks when you hear these stories about people dying. they're being exploited by criminal gangs and that's why we've got to resolve this issue. there's lots of reasons why, and we should talk about them, but one is that innocent one of them is that innocent people are being exploited by criminal . that's not criminal gangs. that's not right. nothing right. there's nothing compassionate about it. and in fact, compassionate to compassionate about it. and in facis compassionate to compassionate about it. and in facis tackle assionate to compassionate about it. and in facis tackle illegalte to do is to tackle illegal migration. and that's what our rwanda scheme will do. i've been prime minister for a year, just over. prime minister for a year, just over . and in that time we've over. and in that time we've actually reduced the number of people here by over people coming here by over a third. that hasn't happened before. no one else has managed to that . to achieve that. >> the prime minister's comments

come after it was revealed that more than 250 migrants crossed the english channel in small boats at the weekend. that's despite the poor weather conditions . five people died on conditions. five people died on the french side of the channel yesterday getting into yesterday after getting into difficulties just off the coast near boulogne . two palestinian near boulogne. two palestinian guns have carried out coordinated car rammings in central israel, killing a woman and injuring 12 others. images from the scene of one of the attacks in ra'anana, near tel aviv, shows several damaged vehicles as emergency services tend to multiple injuries. police described the incident as a terrorist attack and said two suspects are under arrest . there suspects are under arrest. there has not yet been any claim of responsibility . and you can get responsibility. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com .

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. >> welcome back! >> welcome back! >> it is 237 in the afternoon and we've been asking for your views all show. and finally we're getting to some of them. glenda written in given glenda has written in given starmer's track record on rotherham gangs and the subpostmasters. why would anyone trust immigration and trust him on immigration and borders? philip says rishi said he will overrule the european courts if they block the rwanda bill. why then hasn't he overruled them before? i think

that's a rather good point. although he would probably say go on that there has been reform to these pyjama injunction orders that the echr, uh, delivers , since if we remember delivers, since if we remember that flight was ready to go off to rwanda for so many months ago, now, those last minute orders stopped them. >> but the way in which the echr does those orders has now changed. perhaps that would be his well we shall see. his answer. well we shall see. >> we shall see. >> we shall see. >> mike has written in to say, the problem britain is the problem is that britain is no by the no longer being run by the government . it's actually being government. it's actually being run of hr lawyers, run by a bunch of hr lawyers, judges courts . judges and the courts. >> yes, yes, it is quite sometimes seems impossible to even deport foreign criminals, which is bizarre because in country, in our system , country, in our system, parliament is famously sovereign i >> -- >> if parliament wants to ignore something judges say, they can pass a law. >> but it's quite interesting whether it is a problem with the law or a problem with the judiciary when it comes our judiciary when it comes to our lack of deportation of criminals, know , um, criminals, i want to know, um, jeremy says, funny how sunak is trying to immigration

trying to cut immigration now and to cut taxes now. and trying to cut taxes now. could it be that there is a general election soon? tories just disasters just suddenly react to disasters when it hits the uk? yes, it does always seem a little reactive, rather than proactive. >> well, let's get more on all these stories now. joining us is these stories now. joining us is the former labour mp simon danczuk and the journalist and broadcaster candice holdsworth. uh simon, we're going to first zero in on uh , on that big issue zero in on uh, on that big issue that people have been writing into us about on, on whether or not these planes will actually fly on whether or not this bill will actually work well . will actually work well. i think, yes, to make it work. >> it's his own. it's his only chance, isn't it? if he's serious about winning the next general he doesn't serious about winning the next genflights he doesn't serious about winning the next genflights going he doesn't serious about winning the next genflights going to he doesn't serious about winning the next genflights going to rwandal't get flights going to rwanda with, uh, illegal immigrants on them, then there's going to be a major problem. we've seen the opinion polling for the conservatives he asked to make this i think it's the only this work. i think it's the only show in town. and i listen to the interview that you did with graham and a graham stringer. uh, and i'm a great of graham

great admirer of graham stringer. think he's a great stringer. i think he's a great member he says it member of parliament. he says it won't work. but what i say won't work. but what i would say to parliament is try it. won't work. but what i would say to parliament is try it . we've to parliament is try it. we've never tried this. the nearest we've come, as you pointed out , we've come, as you pointed out, is in relation to albania , where is in relation to albania, where we've returned people to the point where albanians no longer come across the channel to britain. and that seems to have worked. let's try this. i say to starmer as well, let's try this. see if it is a deterrent, and then we will know . then we will know. >> candace, the issue of toughening up this bill, which some conservative mps are calling for, is quite an interesting one because on the one hand, people are very concerned about individual asylum seekers, migrants losing their individual right to appeal their individual right to appeal their deportation . they claim their deportation. they claim that this is unconservative , that this is unconservative, that this is unconservative, that it would undermine our standing in the world on the global stage. how do you feel about that? >> look, i mean, those >> well, look, i mean, those sorts of things very sorts of things are very important but think important to me, but i think that what happens, what undermines credibility undermines the credibility of the that, you know, the system is that, you know, when, like you say, governments

lose the power to make laws that are because they're are effective because they're constantly by constantly undermined by loopholes and people lawyers loopholes and people and lawyers who understand how to challenge the system. >> and gets to point where, >> and it gets to a point where, you you've someone you know, you've got someone who's multiple crimes. who's committed multiple crimes. and there was one case of someone he was provided someone who he was provided with, you know, depression medication . for his depression medication. for his depression because he wouldn't be able to get it if he went his get it if he went back to his his and lot of his home country. and a lot of people is that people think, well, is that really valid? i don't really very valid? and i don't think it is. i mean, when you're talking about like habeas think it is. i mean, when you're talking foryut like habeas think it is. i mean, when you're talking for instance, like habeas think it is. i mean, when you're talking for instance, lmean beas think it is. i mean, when you're talking for instance, lmean ,eas think it is. i mean, when you're talking for instance, lmean , i|s corpus, for instance, i mean, i think that has think that, you know, that has a very proud tradition. i very proud tradition. but i think it gets to things think when it gets to things where trivial where it seems almost trivial and they're just can tell and they're just you can tell they're avoid they're just trying to avoid deportation, i have an deportation, then i have an issue with it. it's a fine line . issue with it. it's a fine line. >> reporting on, >> i mean, we were reporting on, i were together for i think we were together for this. isis fanatic. yes who this. the isis fanatic. yes who won his appeal? the judges ruled in his favour despite the fact that he'd been travelling between the uk and his home country very frequently. also in albanian crime boss smuggling huge sums of money also allowed

to stay in this country. >> i suppose one of the problems here, simon, is that after the second world war, we signed up to a lot of international, uh, agreements that were very good hearted but were expecting a few thousand of people to, to to, use them each year. yeah, those , use them each year. yeah, those, those agreements, if we take them as they're written in the liberal interpretation that courts do , could mean that courts do, could mean that hundreds of millions of people have a right to move to the uk. if anyone comes from a country that has a despotic government under these agreements, they could say, well, i'm going to go to the uk and you'll have to accept me as a refugee. now, obviously, hundreds of millions of choose to of people wouldn't choose to do that the fact that they that, but the fact that they could perhaps means system that, but the fact that they could reform; means system that, but the fact that they could reform .means system needs reform. >> there's no doubt that we need reform. these international conventions were fit for purpose then, but they're very much outdated now. and it's not just about people coming to britain who, uh, might have a, you know, a legitimate case to come here because they're in a country

that where there is significant problems , sometimes it's people problems, sometimes it's people coming here and then making up excuses and using our legal system and for the british taxpayer, paying to support their legal case, for them to be able to stay here when a billion chinese people live under a form of despotic , authoritarian of despotic, authoritarian government , i of despotic, authoritarian government, i think if of despotic, authoritarian government , i think if someone government, i think if someone was to come from china and claim i'm being mistreated by my government , i don't believe in government, i don't believe in communism . communism. >> under these rules, we'd probably have to say yes. i mean, maybe, maybe hundreds of millions of people was underplaying potentially underplaying it potentially billions people have the billions of people have the right to the and right to come to the uk, and obviously they would easier to move around the world now than it all those years ago when it was all those years ago when the convention convention lines were written signed up to. were written and signed up to. >> it's much easier to move around world. around the world. >> so, candace, are people >> so, candace, why are people so updating so squeamish about updating these conventions were that these conventions that were that were made in a in a completely different time? >> yes, yes, i would like because have such wall, because people have such a wall, don't block i know, i know >> a mental block i know, i know well, it's so true. >> things like the un >> i mean, things like the un refugee they

>> i mean, things like the un refugmade they >> i mean, things like the un refugmade in they >> i mean, things like the un refugmade in a they >> i mean, things like the un refugmade in a specific they >> i mean, things like the un refugmade in a specific sety >> i mean, things like the un re circumstances specific sety >> i mean, things like the un re circumstances where ecific sety >> i mean, things like the un re circumstances where you: sety of circumstances where you had genuine who were being genuine refugees who were being returned to countries where they were murdered. absolutely were being murdered. absolutely but like you say, it's now being stretched beyond that definition . a refugee can be all kinds of things now, not someone who's facing certain death . i think facing certain death. i think the squeamishness from the squeamishness comes from it's very ideological. i think we live in very partisan time . i we live in very partisan time. i don't think people are willing to sort of at things to sort of look at these things pragmatically . it's just pragmatically. it's just different political factions opposing each other. >> the other point forward >> but the other point forward is there will be of people is there will be lots of people who say, look at numbers of who say, look at the numbers of refugees that the uk takes in each year. it's a lot less than france. it's a lot less than germany shouldn't we be stepping up and doing more that would be what say. i what they would say. i think people i people people, you know, i think people when feel they have control people, you know, i think people wherthe feel they have control people, you know, i think people wherthe situation. y have control over the situation. >> i mean, you look at people >> so i mean, you look at people from kong , for instance, from hong kong, for instance, people welcoming people are very, very welcoming because they were you know because they were like, you know what understand what we can understand the situation must situation they're in. they must come they like that situation they're in. they must comea they like that situation they're in. they must comea lot they like that situation they're in. they must comea lot ofthey like that situation they're in. they must comea lot oftheyukrainian that with a lot of the ukrainian refugees. i think it's when people control people feel they have no control

over you know, over the situation. you know, almost it's being led by almost when it's being led by you and and you know, lawyers and judges and the overruling democracy in the sovereignty of parliament. that's when people have the issue. >> and blunt, also, >> and let's be blunt, also, france doing france and germany are doing everything can try everything they can to try and limit the numbers to at least they're trying to. >> yeah, absolutely . but it is >> yeah, absolutely. but it is about fairness. you know , it's about fairness. you know, it's not for illegal people smugglers to determine who can come into the united kingdom and i was the mp for rochdale . we took mp for rochdale. we took disproportion high number of asylum seekers into rochdale. the second highest town and city in the uk, to take to take asylum seekers. wow and so in my constituency surgery i met lots of people who would claim to be, uh , seeking asylum. the reality uh, seeking asylum. the reality is big proportions are economic migrants. >> well, simon, that's a great segue to another story that we want to discuss. and this is the rochdale grooming gang scandal. this new report that has come out with many shocking findings, some of which we knew, some tom

moore additional details that are truly shocking, horrific , are truly shocking, horrific, horrifying, actually, um, what do you make of this review ? the do you make of this review? the greater manchester police accused of massive failings . accused of massive failings. >> yeah, absolutely. and just for your viewers and listeners , for your viewers and listeners, uh, perspective on this, i was the mp from 2010 to 2017 and the story of the grooming scandal broke in 2012. so i'd been there two, just two years, and it was a new, new to me, you know, as the story broke at that time. uh, but i was very clear in calling this out as being an issue that was related to ethnicity, to religion . uh, the ethnicity, to religion. uh, the perpetrators of these awful crimes. and i met many of the victims of these crimes. i met girl.i spent a lot of time with her and her family , uh, her and her family, uh, examining this issue. i met sara rowbotham, who was the whistleblower in this and is mentioned extensive in the report. and i made sure that she could come before parliament, before the home affairs select committee and give, uh, evidence

around this issue. so i did a lot of work around it, but i was clear in saying that ethnicity and religion was a key factor in this issue. and i was told by some senior labour figures, not to mention that, well, that's what i was going to ask. >> what was the response to raising of, these raising the issue of, of these grooming gangs being predominantly don't mention their ethnicity . their ethnicity. >> don't mention that the pakistani will lose votes it. >> don't mention that the pak unhelpful lose votes it. >> don't mention that the pak unhelpful in;e votes it. >> don't mention that the pak unhelpful in terms�*s it. >> don't mention that the pak unhelpful in terms of it. it's unhelpful in terms of multiculturalism . and sir peter multiculturalism. and sir peter fahy, who was the chief constable of greater manchester police at the time , as soon as police at the time, as soon as the grooming scandal broke in 2012, it came to rochdale and one of the first things he said at a public meeting is i've come here celebrate here to celebrate multiculturalism. it couldn't have been more insensitive because it was multiculturalism that had got us into this situation where poor, white working class girls were being abused by predominantly pakistani taxi drivers in and around rochdale . it's an around rochdale. it's an appalling situation and candace isn't one of the biggest issues

here. >> that there were lots of white working class girls and their families who were just not believed. yes. and then the people that were believed or tiptoed around were another group in society. and it's almost how institution respond to these different groups in different ways. yes, yes. >> and it wasn't just in rochdale. i mean, you saw it in various other places. it was the same coming up, coming up same issues coming up, coming up again, girls, they again, the young girls, they were taken seriously . they were not taken seriously. they were not taken seriously. they were discredited many ways . were discredited in many ways. they were treated criminals. they were treated as criminals. it was absolutely zero understanding of the coercive power that the grooming gangs had over these young women, many of the risk register. of them on the at risk register. it was total failure from it was a total failure from top to institution failure. to bottom institution failure. like you say, it seems like there was a lot of politics involved and this report, um, claim is that there could potentially be dozens of men still out there. >> yes . not still out there. >> yes. not being apprehended. continue huge risk for children in the area. >> yeah. and it plays back to this point about deportation. i

campaigned after 2012 continually to try and get those who were found guilty of having committed some of these crimes to be deported back to pakistan because they had dual nationality. and the difficulty in making that happen almost impossible . and yet you have the impossible. and yet you have the british taxpayer , uh, paying for british taxpayer, uh, paying for their legal case there in british prisons. uh fighting to keep them in britain instead of returning them to pakistan. almost impossible to get them deported . absolutely outrageous. deported. absolutely outrageous. but you were right as well. i mean, politics playing a big part in this. the similar grooming scandal in rotherham . grooming scandal in rotherham. and professor jay, who carried out a review there quite clearly said that labour politicians locally played a significant part in covering up this abuse over a number of years. >> do you think candace , that we >> do you think candace, that we will the, the system will have learnt the right lessons ? learnt the right lessons? >> well, i hope so. >> well, i hope so. >> learn any lessons ? >> learn any lessons? >> learn any lessons? >> i hope so, because if it doesn't, it's going to be repeated again and again and

again. think there's again. but i think that there's so blindness around so much wilful blindness around this you people, this issue. you know people, it's to talk properly it's very hard to talk properly about this and have straight about this and to have straight talking especially talking about it, especially when who were when the people who were involved, i mean, they want to admit culpability . so admit any culpability. so i mean, they really want to avoid that and they'll be trying to put on to other people. i put it on to other people. so i don't know. i mean, i think, you know, unless willing to know, unless you're willing to talk about this, the talk very openly about this, the lessons be learned . lessons will not be learned. >> well, there is so much more we could say on this topic, but we could say on this topic, but we time for just one we do have time for just one more today , which involves more story today, which involves a gary lineker. now, a certain gary lineker. now, gary . lineker a certain gary lineker. now, gary. lineker has found himself in a bit of hot water after retweeting a tweet calling on all regional and international sports bodies to take an urgent stance on israel's what they say violations of human rights. uh, basically calling for israel to be suspended from sporting bodies over its attacks on her mass or what they describe as

attacks on palestinian life. um this is a fairly political thing for the bbc's number one sports broadcaster to be getting involved with simon. >> yeah, absolutely. i don't know why the bbc put up with him to be quite honest. i think it bnngs to be quite honest. i think it brings the whole institution into disrepute. i think it's unbelievable that they haven't held him to account on this and previous issues that he's got involved in. he gets a considerable amount of money from licence fee payers who can't avoid paying this, by the way. they have to pay it to be able to watch tv and, and i think it's about time action was taken. >> but also him that ask calling to israel from international to ban israel from international foot ball matches . i mean what foot ball matches. i mean what about other countries. why israel . israel. >> well yeah. well, the other point will be made is that it's not that long ago he was paid a considerable amount of money to go qatar . uh,

considerable amount of money to go qatar. uh, a regime that go to qatar. uh, a regime that isn't you know, the most progressive country in the world. and contrast between world. and the contrast between that and where hasn't called that and where he hasn't called for people not to be to for people not to be able to play for people not to be able to play football . and yet the play football. and yet the contrast this and that. contrast between this and that. yes, exactly. >> is he just trying to >> can this is he just trying to be fired at this point? he's got a podcast not a lucrative podcast not affiliated to the bbc. frankly, he's got a very high salary at the bbc. but he might be thinking maybe he can make more money he's money elsewhere now. well, he's got option. money elsewhere now. well, he's got! option. money elsewhere now. well, he's got! mean, ion. money elsewhere now. well, he's got! mean, lyn. money elsewhere now. well, he's got! mean, i don't he's >> i mean, i don't know if he's purposely trying to do it, although said although some people have said maybe maybe he maybe he is, maybe he knows he can that can just act with impunity, that no going to do anything. no one's going to do anything. he enjoys having this he just enjoys having this controversial opinion. although when you through twitter when you go through his twitter feed, jarring because feed, it's very jarring because it'll be like football, football, and then some football, football and then some radical about israel and radical tweet about israel and football, football, football . football, football, football. there's no balance there at all. fine. he's allowed to have his opinion, but like you say, plenty of people resent having to the licence fee for that to pay the licence fee for that andisnt to pay the licence fee for that and isn't the crucial thing here. >> he was almost given a free pass by the bbc, saying you're a sports broadcaster. that's fine.

you can opine about the level of tax immigration or whatever tax or immigration or whatever because that's not your beat. this is a sporting beat. is this is a sporting beat. this is a tweet about sport and a political tweet about sport . political tweet about sport. does that mean we have to take it slightly differently from these tweets about liz truss or whatever it is ? whatever it is? >> simon i'm not sure. i think the bbc just have to get rid of him think that's the him. i think that's the solution. i that's the solution. i think that's the honest clearly loves the sort of solution. i think that's the hdon't clearly loves the sort of solution. i think that's the hdon't know,’ loves the sort of solution. i think that's the hdon't know, he'ses the sort of solution. i think that's the hdon't know, he's leaningyrt of solution. i think that's the hdon't know, he's leaning into i don't know, he's leaning into it. yeah, he obviously loves it in some way. >> you can imagine him sort of gleefully rubbing his hands, clicking the tweet button, and just explosions. clicking the tweet button, and justvery explosions. clicking the tweet button, and justvery well,:)losions. clicking the tweet button, and justvery well, that'sls. >> very bizarre. well, that's it for today . >> very bizarre. well, that's it for today. thank you for the show today. thank you very much simon danczuk. very much indeed. simon danczuk. and of course, candice holdsworth. going to be holdsworth. we're going to be back tomorrow at 12:00 and tomorrow be big, big day, tomorrow will be a big, big day, of course, rwanda. of course, of rwanda. >> debates don't go anywhere for that, but up next, it's that, but also up next, it's martin and he'll be martin daubney and he'll be covering something very important in the house of commons around half an hour's commons in around half an hour's time. the prime minister will stand the despatch box and stand up at the despatch box and deliver assessment on those

deliver his assessment on those british strikes. joint operations with america. but british strikes on yemen. what more might be said that is all coming up the next half an coming up in the next half an hour or so on gb news don't go anywhere . anywhere. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello alex burkill here again with your latest gb news weather forecast, the cold theme is going to continue as we go through much of this week. and with that, there is the risk of some heavy for some of us some heavy snow for some of us at there is a cold at the moment there is a cold arctic air plunging from arctic air plunging down from the north across the uk as we are sandwiched in between high pressure west and low pressure to the west and low pressure to the west and low pressure towards east. pressure towards the east. >> northerly we >> on that northerly wind we have already plenty snow have already seen plenty of snow showers continue showers and they will continue overnight most likely showers and they will continue overnigparts most likely showers and they will continue overnigparts of most likely showers and they will continue overnigparts of northern aly across parts of northern scotland, but also some western areas and also eastern parts in areas and also eastern parts in areas exposed to that northerly wind. >> we have the risk of seeing some further wintry showers further staying largely

further inland, staying largely dry with skies and as a dry with clear skies and as a result we're going to see temperatures dropping most temperatures dropping, most places falling a few degrees below freezing. fairly below freezing. so a fairly widespread and for some of us, harsh frost. thing harsh frost. first thing tomorrow otherwise and tomorrow morning. otherwise and as we go through tomorrow, watch out of more out for a spell of more persistent rain, sleet and snow pushing of pushing in across parts of northern central northern ireland, central southern into southern scotland and into northern could northern england. two could bnng northern england. two could bring centimetres of bring several centimetres of snow, disruption is snow, so some disruption is possible further north across northern parts of scotland, more snow likely here. snow showers likely here. meanwhile, staying dry, bright and often sunny across the rest of england and wales, but staying into wednesday and staying cold into wednesday and we to watch out for system we need to watch out for system towards the south of us. it may avoid the uk, there's avoid the uk, but there's a chance may just fringe chance it may just fringe southern it southern counties. and if it does so, that could bring some disruptive elsewhere. disruptive snow elsewhere. still, chance of some still, the chance of some further for time . further snow showers for a time. it's likely to turn drier as we go the of week, go towards the end of the week, and temperatures will start to pick that little pick up just that little bit, too. by, looks like things too. by by, looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .

>> good afternoon and happy monday. it's 3 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. coming up in today's show, the growing pressure on the prime minister, we have an exclusive interview rishi exclusive interview with rishi sunak , who's faced tough

sunak, who's faced a tough grilling from our political editor on a crunch week ahead . editor on a crunch week ahead. it includes a potential rebellion from within his own party over his flagship rwanda bill. some mps say it doesn't go far enough and will vote against it in the commons later this week . plus, there's criticism of week. plus, there's criticism of how he gave the green light for military strikes against houthis in the middle east without consulting parliament, the prime minister will be giving a statement in the commons this houh statement in the commons this hour, and we'll that live hour, and we'll cross that live and in other news, the damning report, which found that girls were left at the mercy of paedophile grooming gangs for years rochdale because of years in rochdale because of failings by senior police and council bosses. and that's all coming up in this next action packed hour . and we're just packed hour. and we're just heanng packed hour. and we're just hearing reports in the last hour of a ship near yemen being hit by a missile strike. more details to follow on that

dramatic story . as usual, i want