former immigration minister >> former immigration minister robert jenrick gives his first in—depth interview since resigning. he does not hold back. plus i want to know if you let them men with me for my console and drop me back off intoxicated under the influence of drugs british pakistani , of drugs british pakistani, bangladeshi, afghan men have been raping working class white girls for decades in the grooming gang epidemic. maggie oliver, the voice . on grooming oliver, the voice. on grooming gangs, joins me shortly. oh do you remember this bunch of nutters.7 >> the only solution is jihad by the armies of the muslim country. not that you need. who will.7 what training do i have.7 there are people with arms, labour leader keir starmer gave legal advice to that group of islamist radicals in germany, reportedly now we've just banned them here. >> good. but as keir starmer on the side of our enemies . and. we

the side of our enemies. and. we can't control the channel and we're skint, but we're spending billions in ukraine and the middle east is it time to put ordinary brits first? now take a look at this man's face. okay. there he is. a new poll shows that reform could hand labour a landslide victory . richard tice landslide victory. richard tice joins live well as joins me live as well as surprise additions to this surprise late additions to this show . lee anderson and brendan show. lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith who voting . for clarke—smith who are voting. for the rwanda amendments. will they now have to resign live on air? i will put that to them next. ready to get lively ? on my panel ready to get lively? on my panel is columnist carole malone. we've got the other outspoken benjamin butterworth and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy. ready, britain ? lucy. are you ready, britain? here we go . here we go. grooming gangs have got away with murder for too long. i tackle that right after lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith join me to explain why they are . voting for the why they are. voting for the rwanda amendments. i will see you for a jam packed two hours

after this. good evening . after this. good evening. >> the top stories tonight. a new report into the rochdale grooming scandal has found girls were left at the mercy of paedophiles due to failings by senior police and council leaders in greater manchester. the report highlights years of widespread organised sexual abuse of hundreds of children. it also found a reluctance among victims to make formal complaints was often used as an excuse to avoid investigation . excuse to avoid investigation. the report identified 96 men still deemed a potential risk to children, but this is only a proportion of the numbers involved in the abuse highlighted in the report . highlighted in the report. meanwhile, rishi sunak is facing growing pressure from right wing mps to toughen up his rwanda bill with more crunch votes this week. tonight, the party's deputy chairman, lee anderson, has confirmed he'll join a possible rebellion , saying he'll

possible rebellion, saying he'll vote for amendments to the bill. the tory divisions come as new figures reveal more than 200 migrants crossed the channel in small boats at the weekend . small boats at the weekend. commuters are in for a fresh series of delays as the aslef union announces more strike action. train drivers are to take part in a rolling programme of one day walkouts from the end of one day walkouts from the end of the month, including an overtime ban. the union says it's aiming to put pressure on what it describes as a tone deaf government , calling for drivers government, calling for drivers to get their first pay rise in five years and we're in for some chilly days ahead as cold air blowing in from the arctic bnngs blowing in from the arctic brings snow and ice to parts of the country. the met office warning tempers will dip six degrees lower than usual for this time of year. that means snow and ice is also in place as a warning for tomorrow. across northern ireland, scotland and east anglia . on tv, online, dab+ east anglia. on tv, online, dab+ radio and the tunein app. this

is gb news britain's news channel. >> okay, so the tory party deputy chairman are still in the house of commons. as we understand it. they will be hotfooting it over to college green. they are going to be talking us. fingers crossed talking to us. fingers crossed in matter of moments. why? in a matter of moments. why? well, it looks as they well, it looks as though they have they have said have said, well, they have said that back the that they are going to back the rwanda does that now rwanda amendments. does that now mean to resign mean that they have to resign from their roles? so we'll go to them they pop up. them as and when they pop up. but very important but first, a very important story. this gangs of predominantly british, pakistani, afghan and bangladeshi men have been raping vulnerable working class white girls industrial scale and girls on an industrial scale and the police have been too afraid of being called racist to act . of being called racist to act. and still happening . how and it's still happening. how many girls were drugged, raped, murdered had their lives murdered or had their lives destroyed because police destroyed because of police indifference? would be indifference? there would be riots on the streets if this was happening around, happening the other way around, there marches, there would have been marches, demonstrations. would have demonstrations. it would have kicked off big time. our left wing would been wing politicians would have been falling themselves call falling over themselves to call it in parliament, and the

it out in parliament, and the police probably wouldn't have let in first let it happen. in the first place. in reality, there are serious questions whether serious questions over whether labour this labour tried to sweep this epidemic but labour tried to sweep this epi

action was reportedly taken against a pimp who got a 15 year old girl pregnant, while another child claimed that was kept child claimed that she was kept locked and made to act locked in cages and made to act like a dog or a baby , with like a dog or a baby, with again, no action being taken against the men allegedly involved. one girl was threatened with a gun before she went to give evidence in a trial . victims were worried about being kidnapped and sent to pakistan, which is ironic because we've had real trouble sending some people back to pakistan, rao, 54, adeel pakistan, kwasi rao, 54, adeel khan, 53, were convicted along with seven other men of grooming and gang raping 47 girls as young as 12 and pimping them out to other predators. they were given a few years in prison. naturally told that they'd be deported, and here we are, nearly 12 on, and as far nearly 12 years on, and as far as i'm aware, they're in as i'm aware, they're still in the this is not just the country. this is not just a few apples. rochdale, few bad apples. rochdale, rotherham, , newcastle, rotherham, keighley, newcastle, aylesbury, peterborough, oxford, bristol, bet bristol, telford and i will bet my bottom dollar that this is happening town happening in every major town and city in the uk. please lecture us more about white privilege and about racism. the only privilege . here as far as

only privilege. here as far as i can see it, is that that's been given to british, pakistani and other south asian men who can carry on with their lives as normal young girls. normal after raping young girls. the here is towards the only racism here is towards the white girls who were seen as worthless. now want to make worthless. now i want to make a very point here. there very important point here. there are everywhere. are paedophiles everywhere. people be shouting at their people will be shouting at their television screens right now saying white. saying jimmy savile was white. what church? what about the catholic church? absolutely. and we should call every of those every single one of those out. okay but deal with today's okay but let's deal with today's report . okay. let's deal with report. okay. let's deal with the hand here. and the the matter in hand here. and the fact is that this country for decades and still today does appear to have a problem with certain elements of the pakistani and asian community abusing predominantly working class white girls on an industrial scale. and our politicians and police have, in my view, been more concerned about not wanting to stoke racial tensions than they have been about actually sorting the problem out. many people skirt around this issue, but is it not reasonable to have an open conversation about whether

certain nefarious minority elements of the british muslim community appear content to take part in a grooming gang epidemic? our politicians and police, in many cases traded the lives of young girls for an easier life themselves. in my view, i think that's shameful . easier life themselves. in my view, i think that's shameful. i think it's a stain on britain and many people, i think, have blood on their hands now , before blood on their hands now, before we get stuck into this with my panel we get stuck into this with my panel, i'm joined by the voice on grooming gangs. this former greater manchester police detective maggie oliver. greater manchester police detectivel maggie oliver. greater manchester police detectivel want gie oliver. greater manchester police detectivel want toe oliver. greater manchester police detectivel want to thank r. greater manchester police detectivel want to thank you very maggie, i want to thank you very much for coming on and i would just like you to explain , just like you to explain, articulate me a bit the articulate to me a bit the importance report why importance of the report why this means so much to you and the scale of the problem. please >> hi, patrick. um, this this is not just a report . not just a report. >> this is the story of many lives that have been destroyed . lives that have been destroyed. um, and i have been really insistent today to say that this is not just about rochdale . um, is not just about rochdale. um, this is a systemic problem . um,

this is a systemic problem. um, and i would like to broaden it beyond just the grooming gangs. this story took 12 years to be made public, actually. sorry, not to be made public, but for the truth that i was speaking 12 years ago to be formally, um, confirmed as being the truth. and throughout all those years, the, the police, social services have pretended that everything that that job was a great job for british justice. and it should not have taken 12 years for this to be confirmed, that it was was, um, a failed job, that dozens of victims were failed , that the authorities failed, that the authorities chose not to put resources into this. and why? >> maggie, that's what i want to know, though. why? because it looks it looks to me as though you've got vulnerable, working class, white girls class, predominant white girls here who were seen as a bit worthless. and then you've got a lack of desire to , quote lack of a desire to, quote unquote, stoke racial tensions

by police forces. and so then nothing gets done. i mean, was i unfair and out of order that to say that i think there is some racism involved here and maybe that was racism against some of these young white girls? >> what would >> no, i think i what i would say, i think that say, patrick, is i think that when i began speaking out, which was and i think was 12 years ago and i think very much there was no , no, um, very much there was no, no, um, no one spoke about the ethnicity of the abusers in these gangs. >> and it is unavoidable to say that the vast majority of the offenders in the grooming gang scandals, um, are predominantly white, british, pakistani men and the children are predominantly young white, very vulnerable children from difficult backgrounds . i think difficult backgrounds. i think thatis difficult backgrounds. i think that is unavoidable . and that that is unavoidable. and that was never discussed. but i think as well as the, um, unwillingness to grasp that nettle and have an honest discussion about why it was going on, there is also a class dynamic to it. there is also

i've often said that if it was bofis i've often said that if it was boris johnson's daughter being abused, this wouldn't have happened. abused, this wouldn't have happened . and these children happened. and these children have been in, um, just as being not worth protecting . and what not worth protecting. and what i've said today is that i actually believe that through programs like the programs that you've done on gb news, you know, the drama, i think that the cat is out of the bag in relation to these cases . so relation to these cases. so i don't think that the discussion is just about race, racial elements of this case. i am trying to bring it. this is the past, but it is also a problem of the present. and i want to see change. patrick, for the future. and the only way we are going to get change is by changing the system, by prevent the police from pretending that these cases don't happen by not putting resources in, by a lack of accountability, by by, um, proper resourcing . and no, i proper resourcing. and no, i mean, today the chief constable was really insistent to say that this was a problem of the past.

but it isn't patrick, because in my foundation, in the maggie oliver foundation, we are helping victims every day who are still being failed by the system . and are still being failed by the system .and i are still being failed by the system . and i just want to make system. and i just want to make sure that you focus on the present and on the future as well as the past. >> absolutely no. absolutely, 100. this is still happening, in my view . it should be. dame my view. it should be. dame maggie oliver i don't know if you'd accept that very quickly. maggie, would you accept an honour? >> it's never going to happen, patrick. and you know what? if it i think that , um, it did, i would think that, um, you know, i'm not a voice for the establishment. i'm a voice for the victims . and i want to for the victims. and i want to see systemic changes . i want to see systemic changes. i want to see systemic changes. i want to see a police complaint system that for purpose. and that is fit for purpose. and i want accountability. want to see accountability. a chief in a court of chief constable in a court of law charged with gross criminal neglect of duty . well, i would neglect of duty. well, i would like . like. >> we're going to have to leave it there. maggie, i really appreciate you coming on. thank you very, very much. that's maggie oliver there, is maggie oliver there, who is a former manchester police former greater manchester police detective who stood up against all thank very, all of this. thank you very,

very let's the views very much. let's get the views of my now. daily express of my panel now. daily express columnist carole malone journalist and broadcaster benjamin journalist and broadcaster benjarparty mep belinda brexit party mep belinda deluise. we're going to have to keep relatively snappy keep this relatively snappy because i think we've got lee anderson on standby, but anderson on standby, guys. but carol, there carol, just just firstly there i mean, issue has not gone mean, this issue has not gone away, and we do have away, has it? and we do have a problem . problem. >> how many more reports are we going to have to have telling the same story ? this detailing the same story? this detailing the same story? this detailing the failings by a police, the same failings by a police, local authorities, by social workers and those people workers and all those people apologising to these victims, having done nothing at all for these victims . it is astonishing these victims. it is astonishing that you know, this report today says are still 96 men says that there are still 96 men out there who are at large who are a danger to these young girls. know , you mentioned girls. you know, you mentioned before, this in before, i mean, some of this in your in your intro your stuff, in your intro shocked my core. you know, shocked me to my core. you know, these white these girls were called white white slags. they were called gory ' white slags. they were called gory , which means gory girls, which means worthless by these pakistani gangs. only did these gangs. and not only did these asian gangs treat them like that, so did the authorities . that, so did the authorities. they thought they were worthless too, because they were white working class girls and you

know, maggie talks about the ethnicity not ethnicity of their abusers not being about that is that being talked about that is that is appalling . and even now, is the appalling. and even now, if up ethnicity if you bring up the ethnicity today, there parts of our today, there are parts of our elite it gets people say you're racist . racist. >> it does. now, benjamin, there are question marks over whether or not certain elements of the labour party did their best to sweep this under the carpet when you areas that this you look at the areas that this happen, of happen, there was a lot of labour etc. do you labour run councils, etc. do you think labour has think the labour party has a problem when it comes to grooming gangs? >> think obviously >> uh, no. i think obviously what's and what's happened is appalling and clearly, you know, it shouldn't be forward. clearly, you know, it shouldn't be but forward. clearly, you know, it shouldn't be but the orward. clearly, you know, it shouldn't be but the outrage from clearly, you know, it shouldn't be left? the outrage from clearly, you know, it shouldn't be left? where's1e outrage from clearly, you know, it shouldn't be left? where's the utrage from clearly, you know, it shouldn't be left? where's the moral from the left? where's the moral outrage the i don't outrage from the left? i don't hear it. outrage from the left? i don't hearit.i outrage from the left? i don't hear it. i hear it today. hear it. i don't hear it today. i haven't heard it the past i haven't heard it in the past because voter base. because of their voter base. >> i think they just they forced sarah . of sarah champion to resign. of course, the problem course, i think the problem i have is that the report after report, as you say, just reflects the moral depravity of political correctness that has infected our public institutions and that allow child rape gangs pnor and that allow child rape gangs prior 80 over than facing and standing up to the craziness of

political correctness . political correctness. >> all right, look, in a press conference on monday, greater manchester police apologised for its failures. the chief constable, stephen watson, said this one of the primary responsibilities police this one of the primary re to>nsibilities police this one of the primary re to protecties police this one of the primary re to protect the police this one of the primary re to protect the vulnerable; is to protect the vulnerable from predatory and from the cruel and predatory and in we failed you. in this regard, we failed you. it remains, of course, a source of regret that we of profound regret that we cannot back clock. cannot turn back the clock. we remain determined to do all that we bring offenders to we can to bring offenders to justice. now breaking news just in rishi sunak suffered a massive blow to his authority tonight over his rwanda bill, with deputy party chairman lee anderson indicating that he will vote for two amendments that could derail the prime minister's migration legislation and senior tory mp brendan clarke—smith has tonight also declared that he will be joining the growing rebellion and voting for the amendments. i'm joined now by the two men themselves, deputy tory party chairman lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith shapps . thank you clarke—smith shapps. thank you very, very much. um, lee, i've got to ask, are you going to resign ? resign? >> well, it's not this is not a

rebellion, patrick. this is this is about making sure that the bill is beefed up a little bit. uh, look , brendan and i both uh, look, brendan and i both agree with pretty much 90% of this rwanda bill. we just feel that there's a few areas, uh, in the bill that could be strengthened to make sure that it's watertight . and let's not it's watertight. and let's not forget, we're less than a year away from a general election now. and the last i want now. and the last thing i want over is a labour lot over there is a labour lot coming uh, and repealing the coming in, uh, and repealing the rwanda and opening the rwanda scheme. and opening the borders to 100,000 odd, uh, illegal migrants here, which they will do if they sign up to any eu sort of deal. so this is not about us rebelling. it's about us saying, you know what the of it is the bill most of it is satisfactory. we just need to beef up a little close beef it up a little bit to close all the loopholes and make sure that can't come over here that people can't come over here and country and and break into our country and use claims to get use use spurious claims to get off the hook. that's all. that's what patrick. what it's about, patrick. >> brendan, i know >> okay, look, brendan, i know your as far as i'm aware, your role as far as i'm aware, is kind of almost like a deputy to lee. >> is that right? i mean, are you are you planning on going

anywhere? no, no, no, he's gone. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, i mean, we're both deputy chairs of the party, so, uh, obviously that's represented the conservative party, not just the conservative party, not just the party well. the conservative party, not just the have party well. the conservative party, not just the have our party well. the conservative party, not just the have our membersy well. the conservative party, not just the have our members and well. the conservative party, not just the have our members and of ll. we have our members and of course, we've got our constituencies well that constituencies well as well that we represent as well. >> yes. it's difficult . brendan. >> yes. it's difficult. brendan. brennan. brennan. look, i think a people look a lot of a lot of people look a lot of people , a lot of people, a lot people, a lot of people, a lot of gb news viewers definitely will be admiring your courage. >> that rwanda >> they think that the rwanda plan, is plan, as it stands, is unworkable. be unworkable. and they'll be saying, know , good on you saying, you know, good on you for up against but for standing up against it. but if mean that rishi if this does mean that rishi sunak goes down rebellion sunak goes down to a rebellion on is difficult, on this, it is difficult, brendan, how you to stay brendan, to see how you to stay in post. now >> well, the thing is, i wouldn't view it like that. what i'd actually say, patrick, we've got two days that are coming up to debate this bill. this is incredibly important, which is why, you see, uh, just why, you see, uh, not just lee and but colleagues as and i, but our colleagues as well, who we all have opinions on because to on this bill because we want to make it we want to see make it work. we want to see those planes off. uh, those planes take off. uh,

peopleof those planes take off. uh, people of the those planes take off. uh, peopleof the party and so on. wings of the party and so on. but everybody, you know, we voted bill before we voted for this bill before we voted for this bill before we voted for this bill before we voted for the second reading. we've got through this we've got it through to this stage. people want to it stage. people want to see it work. now, you have work. now, you will have differing opinions on how that will will have will work. you will have different opinions what different opinions on what should appeals. should happen with appeals. you'll opinions you'll have different opinions on happen with on what should happen with numbers and so on, and what happens after but the fact happens after that. but the fact of is that we are of the matter is that we are pretty much the only game in town try to make town to actually try to make something happen. we've something happen. now, we've been the labour been fighting against the labour party since we became mps here. they 7080 times they voted 7080 odd times against the legislation that against all the legislation that we've to put through, and we've tried to put through, and it's asylum seekers. it's not just asylum seekers. we've had foreign national offenders who've committed some quite heinous crimes. we have labour signing letters, labour mps signing letters, stopping planes tarmac stopping planes on the tarmac from these people back. from taking these people back. so what we all actually agree on is that we want to make this work. we just want to beef it up a bit as lee's actually said. so we've our , uh, little, we've put our, our, uh, little, uh, sort of, uh, well, yeah, we've signed the amendments. >> vital we've signed the amendments. >important vital we've signed the amendments. >important this vital . important this this legislation works. you know,

there was a poll out today where i think it was 55.5% of residents in ashfield constituents would have, say, actually think that people are arriving illegally, illegally on small boats should be removed straight away. i cannot ignore that, patrick. i hate it when i see people making these spurious claims , getting legal aid, you claims, getting legal aid, you know, going round and round, making different excuses why they should stop this they should stop in this country. look, the solution is quite me. if you don't quite simple to me. if you don't want to go to rwanda, then don't come to this country. it's that simple. about, simple. and let's talk about, you sacked and you know, being sacked and resignation this. the resignation and all this. the most important for is resignation and all this. the mosmyfportant for is resignation and all this. the mosmy role ant for is resignation and all this. the mosmy role as: for is resignation and all this. the mosmy role as a for is resignation and all this. the mosmy role as a deputy is resignation and all this. the mosmy role as a deputy chair.1 not my role as a deputy chair. the most important thing for me is making sure this legislation works. speak behalf of works. and i speak on behalf of the of ashfield . so you, the people of ashfield. so you, brendan, on behalf would i'm brendan, on behalf you would i'm going this question going to ask this question to both going to ask a question >> i'm going to ask a question to both you, brendan. i'll to both of you, brendan. i'll start. start with you. start. i'll start with you. look, just take it on look, would you just take it on the then? if rishi sunak the chin then? if rishi sunak sacks this? sacks you over this? >> well, it's perfectly fine. of course things where expected. >> support guy. >> you support the guy. >> you support the guy. >> well , well, you know, >> well, well, you know, i

managed hold for three days managed to hold for three days before, yeah but before, but, uh. yeah but the fact matter is, we all fact of the matter is, we all want to make this legislation work. you have to work. and sometimes you have to say your say what's in your heart. sometimes to say what sometimes you have to say what you going to make that you think is going to make that legislation better. of legislation even better. now, of course , you know, we want the course, you know, we want the government to succeed with this. this our role as well this is part of our role as well as parliamentarians. and we're very, keen this. and very, very keen on this. and really, me. it's really, it's not about me. it's not lee or anything. what not about lee or anything. what it about those people at it is about is those people at home and tired of home that are sick and tired of seeing people cheat our system. genuine asylum not genuine asylum seekers, not actually being able to be dealt with because you have a economic migrants, are migrants, migrants who are cheating that system. the labour party borders party have open borders completely . so you know what? completely. so you know what? you know, we're not bothered about roles. we want to about roles. we just want to make and that's make this work and that's what this about. patrick this is all about. patrick >> and right, lee, we'll ask >> and all right, lee, we'll ask that but just that to you. but also just finally, as well. lee i mean, to be clear then, as it be pretty clear then, as it currently stands, you not currently stands, you you do not think this version the think that this version of the rwanda it is actually rwanda bill, it is actually going to work? it does the going to work? it does beg the question, why on earth is rishi sunak ahead this? sunak going ahead with this? i mean, why is he

mean, yeah, i mean, why is he why he banging his head why is he banging his head against the wall he's against the wall when he's got people him that people like you telling him that the public don't think he's strong? >> w— >> i don't think it's strong enough. right. yeah. i don't think enough, think it's strong enough, patrick. that patrick. you know, the fact that my been well my argument has been today. well since this bill was introduced is that, you know, i'm of the mind that nobody enters this mind that nobody who enters this country illegally and i mean, absolutely nobody arriving here on a small boat should be allowed to claim asylum. look if they're that bothered about going to rwanda , then france is going to rwanda, then france is a perfectly safe country, just like the other 6 or 7 countries that they've passed through. it's as simple as that. nobody should be allowed to claim asylum on a small boat. that's my opinion. asylum on a small boat. that's my okay,»n. no fine. >> okay, fine. no that's fine. look, then these look, brendan, then if these amendments through , you amendments don't go through, you will vote against the will have to vote against the bill. now >> well, not necessarily , it >> well, not necessarily, it depends really. i mean, i think we have to weigh that up at the time. and we're going to have a lot of debate between now and then. these things then. we hope that these things are on board. and at are are taken on board. and at the end of the day, i think what the end of the day, i think what

the would certainly the end of the day, i think what the that would certainly the end of the day, i think what the that this would certainly the end of the day, i think what the that this wstill certainly the end of the day, i think what the that this wstill the :ainly say is that this is still the strongest piece legislation strongest piece of legislation that's come through here. we are the only show in town in terms of wanting actually get these of wanting to actually get these things stopped. and then if the legislation goes through as it is, lee and i have just said how we think it could be improved, but it does go through, we but if it does go through, we want legislation want to see that legislation work we want to those work and we want to see those planes off. patrick planes taking off. patrick >> look, you, >> all right. look, both of you, thank you much for rushing thank you very much for rushing out big building behind out of that big building behind you the cold you and standing out in the cold college for us. we do college green for us. we do appreciate it. so thank you very, deputy tory very, very much. as deputy tory chairman anderson chairman lee anderson and brendan had brendan clarke—smith brendan had demoted there. mate. demoted him there. sorry, mate. right. come, right. well, still to come, still come. richard tice still to come. richard tice joins discuss this joins me live to discuss this bombshell joins me live to discuss this bombsh my advice to the prime minister is you will not succeed unless you adopt this very robust approach, and then we will let the public down. but up

next, fellow tory mp james sunderland goes head to head with deputy ukip leader rebecca jane. >> tonight i am asking, following the airstrikes in yemen, need to put brits yemen, do we need to put brits first stop spending money on first and stop spending money on foreign we're not foreign conflicts? we're not shying away from all the tough questions. don't go anywhere patrick christys only

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>> coming up, reform uk leader richard tice responds to bombshell polling that is his party, not labour, who are the tories biggest threat? we're also going to be hearing from robert jenrick, the former immigration minister, who speaks to for the first to me in depth for the first time since quitting his role. he doesn't hold back, but first, it's doesn't hold back, but first, wsfime doesn't hold back, but first, it's time now for our head to head. it's time now for our head to head . and in a further head. and in a further escalation to tensions in the middle east, the iran backed houthi rebels have today attacked an american owned and operated container ship, the gibraltar eagle, now . the gibraltar eagle, now. the militant group in yemen, have been targeting commercial cargo ships in the red sea, britain and us launched airstrikes and the us launched airstrikes in we know that, in response. we all know that, okay, but this . is the bit that okay, but this. is the bit that i'm really focussed . on with the i'm really focussed. on with the uk now stumping up a staggering £12 billion to support the war in ukraine, a further 20 million in ukraine, a further 20 million in humanitarian aid for the israel—gaza conflict. uh can we really fight another really afford to fight another conflict you look

conflict in yemen? when you look around at the moment, do you feel though you personally feel as though you personally have be funding feel as though you personally have that's be funding feel as though you personally have that's going be funding feel as though you personally have that's going on e funding feel as though you personally have that's going on abroad?g stuff that's going on abroad? does the government need to put brits spending brits first and stop spending money on foreign conflicts? let me thoughts. email me me know your thoughts. email me gb com tweet gb views or gb news. com tweet me news. while you're me at gb news. while you're there, take part in our poll. the will appear the results will appear very shortly, this now, the results will appear very shortjoined this now, the results will appear very shortjoined by this now, the results will appear very shortjoined by the this now, the results will appear very shortjoined by the conservative i am joined by the conservative mp former officer mp and former military officer james sunderland deputy james sunderland and deputy leader jane. leader of ukip, rebecca jane. look, you much . we do look, thank you very much. we do always ladies first. so, always go ladies first. so, rebecca, i will start with you. do should be do you think we should be putting here? yeah absolutely. >> i think that , you know, >> i think that, you know, obviously we heard talks obviously we heard some talks over the last few days that brits needs to send a bigger message and that we need to deter threats. >> well, for me, there's no bigger threat than rishi sunak himself. he doesn't care and he's >> he doesn't care and he's making absolute laughingstock making an absolute laughingstock out he out of our public because he doesn't care about hospitals. he doesn't care about hospitals. he doesn't care about education. he doesn't care about education. he doesn't about policing doesn't care about education. he dothet about policing doesn't care about education. he dothe slightest.ut policing doesn't care about education. he dothe slightest. all policing doesn't care about education. he dothe slightest. all he oolicing doesn't care about education. he dothe slightest. all he keepsg in the slightest. all he keeps on doing is throwing all of our money fighting everybody money at fighting everybody else's that isn't our own . else's fight that isn't our own. so just to stop it and so we just have to stop it and look after our own people. all

right, james, that is that is one side of this argument, isn't it? >> which is that we are spending far much money abroad and far too much money abroad and not in uk. um, not enough here in the uk. um, well , the extent to which our well, the extent to which our spending is discretionary is the issue . issue. >> my view is that it's not. >> my view is that it's not. >> the uk is a global power, global presence . we have 90% of global presence. we have 90% of our trade comes via the sea. we're a member of the un security council. these come with obligations that we're not going to renege on. and so i disagree completely that rishi sunak interested in sunak is not interested in schools and hospitals. complete nonsense . but we do have nonsense. but we do have a responsibility globally as well. >> okay. respond to that then, rebecca, that actually we might not see direct not necessarily see the direct result of in the way result of it in the same way that would our polls that we would having our polls filled in or nhs waiting filled in or our nhs waiting list brought but list brought down, but it is actually brits to go actually benefiting brits to go and sort out what's happening in the red sea. no, it's not. >> let me take you as a really good classic example and i can speak from experience. so on thursday i was blue lighted to hospital at 1130 in the morning. iended hospital at 1130 in the morning. i ended up in the hospital by

130 in the afternoon, and by 10:00 at night i was signing myself out with a stomach that was bleeding internally because the doctor hadn't seen me . and the doctor hadn't seen me. and there was no signs of them seeing me. behind me there was a terminally ill young gentleman that surprised if he's that i'll be surprised if he's actually today was having actually here. today was having his consultations on the corridors. real world corridors. this is real world britain, and this is what our people are dealing with today. so anybody that wants to try and tell me that rishi sunak cares about our nhs, i cannot take seriously because this is the real world that we're living in. all right. james i'll throw it over to you. >> is it not becoming increasingly difficult to say that we are acting on the international for the international stage for the benefit when we do benefit of brits, when we do not appear be making decisions appear to be making decisions that benefiting that are massively benefiting brits this country? know, brits in this country? you know, we control going on we can't control what's going on in we're to in the channel. we're trying to control the control what's going on in the red sea. >> well, it's a very strange narrative funding narrative because record funding in record funding in in the nhs record funding in education, government in the nhs record funding in eductakes government in the nhs record funding in eductakes funding government in the nhs record funding in eductakes funding very ernment that takes funding very seriously indeed these seriously indeed for these core departments. we also seriously indeed for these core depa|obligations we also have obligations internationally. really

internationally. and i'm really sorry, if a british ship is sorry, but if a british ship is directly attacked by the houthis , if an american ship is attacked by the houthis, if we've got maritime shipping being on the red sea, we've got maritime shipping being nothing on the red sea, we've got maritime shipping being nothing isn the red sea, we've got maritime shipping being nothing is note red sea, we've got maritime shipping being nothing is note roption . doing nothing is not an option. and have an and i'm afraid we have an obugafion and i'm afraid we have an obligation under international law with yeah law to deal with it. yeah rebecca, that side rebecca, there is that side of it. >> look, h- h— >> look, what do you want to happen? know, very >> look, what do you want to hapbritain. know, very >> look, what do you want to hapbritain. obviously, very >> look, what do you want to hapbritain. obviously, the very pro britain. obviously, the deputy ukip. see deputy leader of ukip. you see brits attacked a brits being attacked on a british i mean, do british vessel. i mean, do you not to hit back there? not want us to hit back there? >> is that situation. but then we're missing completely we're missing out completely about here. we about ukraine here. how can we justify sheer amounts of justify the sheer amounts of billions he's spending on billions that he's spending on that he's just been that country? he's just been given the freedom of ukraine. good move there, because he seems to love that country a heck of a lot more than our own. what's that about? >> all right, james, i do it >> all right, james, i do put it to you that it would be much more a vote winner if you and more of a vote winner if you and the party spent £20 the conservative party spent £20 million filling in potholes or the £12 billion that apparently we ukraine. we spent on the war in ukraine. you know , sorting out our home you know, sorting out our home office our immigration office and our immigration system, example, know, system, for example, you know, would not that not be would that not would that not be more a vote winner to you?

more of a vote winner to you? >> we talk about the expense of the ukraine. me the conflict in ukraine. let me tell cost of the conflict in ukraine. let me te nato cost of the conflict in ukraine. let me te nato war cost of the conflict in ukraine. let me te nato war against cost of the conflict in ukraine. let me te nato war against russia st of the conflict in ukraine. let me te nato war against russia would a nato war against russia would far, far outweigh what we're spending currently in ukraine. and thing that and the important thing is that far being vote winner, far from being a vote winner, a vote loser would be for the russians to be marching right across the uk . across europe towards the uk. >> all right. okay. um, rebecca. yeah, i'll put it to you that there is a picture here. there is a bigger picture here. and, know, it's all and, you know, it's all very noble put brits noble wanting to put brits first, etc, in that regard. but thatis first, etc, in that regard. but that is exactly what we're doing when we go abroad and we want to stop or you just don't buy stop putin or you just don't buy that, you had that, do you? checking you had that. the slightest. that. no, not in the slightest. >> think that the >> i actually think that the biggest threat to the uk right now rishi sunak himself. and biggest threat to the uk right now much1i sunak himself. and biggest threat to the uk right now much 1i su actually;elf. and biggest threat to the uk right now much 1i su actually just and how much he's actually just winding . he it is winding putin up. he it is absolutely gospel that anybody knows that if you start to achieve our country, we are going to fight back and we're going to fight back and we're going to fight back and we're going to fight back hard. all right. to carry on just keep right. but to carry on just keep on ukraine he on supporting ukraine when he hasn't even asked the people in this they want to this country if they want us to do going do do that, he's going to do nothing world iii. nothing but start world war iii. >> confused >> james, i'm very confused

about where money is coming about where this money is coming from. honest, mean, as from. to be honest, i mean, as anyone this anyone will know, watch this show. the biggest fan show. i am not the biggest fan of junior doctors strikes. of the junior doctors strikes. right? but we have been right? okay, but we have been told that we haven't really got right? okay, but we have been tc huge at we haven't really got right? okay, but we have been tchuge amountven't really got right? okay, but we have been tc huge amount of1't really got right? okay, but we have been tc huge amount of foreally got right? okay, but we have been tc huge amount of for money )t right? okay, but we have been tc huge amount of for money them. a huge amount of for money them. nurses as well are another one. i can take your pick i mean, you can take your pick across board you know, across the board here. you know, we've got a vulnerable older people care, all of that people social care, all of that stuff. earth stuff. right. so where on earth is from to bomb is the money coming from to bomb the houthis? >> first thing i'd say >> well, the first thing i'd say is that has nato is that the uk has nato commitments. are at least commitments. there are at least 30 nato who all 30 countries in nato who all agree position on agree the position on on ukraine. be ukraine. they can't all be wrong. a duty to wrong. we have a duty to maintain international peace and we um, defend the we must do so, um, defend the realm, defending our people, defending number defending the uk is our number one in any government, one priority in any government, and across europe and that's shared across europe and that's shared across europe and across our nato allies. in terms the houthis. um, once terms of the houthis. um, once again, could argue again, i mean, you could argue that cost of flying four that the cost of flying four typhoons down towards the red sea and bombing the houthis and back was not excessive in terms of the overall defence budget, but it was a necessary measure. and the prime and of course, the prime minister in minister today mentioned in the house that he'd be house of commons that he'd be prepared to again if the prepared to do it again if the houthis get the message. houthis don't get the message.

>> you, >> yeah, all right, both of you, thank much. we asked thank you very much. we asked for head to head. we certainly for a head to head. we certainly got one. much appreciated that is the conservative mp and former james former military officer, james sunderland, and the deputy leader sunderland, and the deputy leade who do you agree with? look, who do you agree with? defence shapps defence secretary grant shapps says act says britain needed to act against the houthi rebels in yemen. need to put brits yemen. do we need to put brits first stop spending first now though, stop spending money on those foreign conflicts. that's i was conflicts. that's what i was asking you. simon on twitter says and white says it's not as black and white as unfortunately, the as that. unfortunately, the strikes yemen are necessary as that. unfortunately, the strensure yemen are necessary as that. unfortunately, the strensure when are necessary as that. unfortunately, the strensure our|en ar

banned by the uk government. but why did our politicians take decades to do it? they've been banned elsewhere already. they're calling for muslim armies on the streets and jihad, our met police, if you remember, said jihad can mean loads of things. actually, turns things. well, actually, it turns out holy war. out jihad does mean holy war. and been banned now. but and they've been banned now. but we'll get reaction from the legend of fleet kelvin legend of fleet street. kelvin mackenzie tonight, former mackenzie also tonight, former immigration minister. easy for me to say. robert jenrick slams the liberal groupthink that is tearing britain apart. >> immigration good. that >> all immigration is good. that diversity is strength. i think that's wrong . that's wrong. >> yes. and jenrick's view is backed by a brand new survey that shows that nearly 9 in 10 uk parliamentary constituencies want to see immigration levels reduced . next. i've got richard reduced. next. i've got richard tice on. i'm going to ask him whether or not he is going to hand the keys to downing street, to keir starmer. hand the keys to downing street, to keir starmer . don't miss it. to keir starmer. don't miss it. it's patrick christys tonight and

isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930. >> this is patrick christys . >> this is patrick christys. tonight. it's only on gb news fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie coming up with the latest on that grooming latest on that rochdale grooming gang and that new band gang scandal and that new band terror group. but hold your horses time for horses because it's time for richard now . nearly 9 in 10 richard tice now. nearly 9 in 10 constituencies want immigration levels reduced. this is to according a recent survey, but despite this, the public have seriously underestimated how many migrants come through our borders , guessing that it is ten borders, guessing that it is ten times lower than the 672,000 thousand that actually came into

the uk. now, seriously . the uk. now, seriously. apparently more than 50% of the pubuc apparently more than 50% of the public thought that net migration to the uk was ten times lower than it is , and 9 in times lower than it is, and 9 in 10 constituencies still wanted it reduced . but i've got to be it reduced. but i've got to be honest with you, i love the british public, but i do not think there's any excuse any longer for not knowing the amount people coming amount of people coming into this that is. reporter an disgrace that is. reporter an o'reilly who's been gathering opinion from locals rochdale , opinion from locals in rochdale, said my figures, my figures are about 40, 45,600, 1000. >> god, it is thousands and thousands. >> about 4 million. what would you do if i said the figure is actually 672,000? >> i'd . be shocked. i'd be quite >> i'd. be shocked. i'd be quite shocked. crikey it's a riot. >> lord, didn't it really ? >> lord, didn't it really? >> lord, didn't it really? >> yeah it is. it's absolutely insane. i'm joined now by reform leader richard tice. richard, look, thank you very much . what look, thank you very much. what do you make of the public thinking that we have about ten times lower the level of net

migration than we actually do? good evening. >> patrick. well, it's a sign that that essentially the mainstream media have deliberately under reported the huge scale of what is actually mass immigration in recent years under a conservative regime that we've now had for 14 years, where prime minister after prime minister, after home secretary, after home secretary lied to us and said they were going to bnng and said they were going to bring immigration numbers down. and they've wilfully , and actually they've wilfully, deliberately open the borders to mass immigration. ian, you've said it there though, patrick, 90% of all constituencies want lower immigration. and if you want lower immigration, the only party that will freeze all non—essential immigration, patrick, is reform uk. and that's why the bomb shell poll out this morning 14,000. that's why we're going up in the polls and we're going to have a massive, massive difference at this general election. well, well i've got it. i've got it.

>> i've got to say that to be fair, richard, you are going to have a massive difference as things stand. difference, things stand. that difference, though, actually be though, might actually be letting labour into downing street. you know, this poll said that the reform party , i'm going that the reform party, i'm going to stop you there because it's so boring, this ridiculous narrative. well, it's not ridiculous , richard. look, we ridiculous, richard. look, we get on well, but it's not ridiculous. you're going to take a load of seats off the tories potentially, to potentially, or you're going to you're tories. you're going to lose the tories. a load of seats. >> patrick. >> w- >> patrick. >> punish absolute >> you have to punish absolute failure. to punish >> you have to punish absolute failure. that to punish >> you have to punish absolute failure. that deliberately sh >> you have to punish absolute failure. that deliberately lie to people that deliberately lie to the british people change the way our culture is because they've allowed mass immigration uncontrolled world in direct line to what they promised us. >> but what if that means a labour government? richard >> they're as bad as each other. they're both pro mass immigration. they've both got the highest taxes. they're both pro more regulation, more government spending. this lot are socialists. starmer, who i call starmageddon, is also a socialist socialism is a

disaster to catastrophic cocktail. but patrick, there's no difference between the two. this lot have broken britain and it's now only reform uk that can save britain. and that's the positive message we're getting out there to the british people. and that patrick, is why we're going up in the polls and why the tories, quite rightly, are absolutely terrified . absolutely terrified. >> yeah. so mean, labour are >> yeah. so i mean, labour are saying the polls are forecasting a 120 seat majority. if reform succeed in dragging voters away from the tories. i know that you clearly think that you know, they're as bad as each other and that the tories deserve a kicking over their failures. and many people will agree with you for that. but but is it not a concern that britain, as a result, could end up getting worse? on immigration, result, could end up getting wor�*on on immigration, result, could end up getting wor�*on kind on immigration, result, could end up getting wor�*on kind of immigration, result, could end up getting wor�*on kind of socialjration, result, could end up getting wor�*on kind of social issues but on the kind of social issues that that starmer stands that that keir starmer stands for, that the labour party stands for? look at where the party palestine, party is on palestine, for example. know, let example. you know, you could let that premise your >> patrick, the premise of your question is that the conservatives done a good conservatives have done a good job competent. they are job and are competent. they are useless incompetent, useless, they're incompetent, they're . britain. they

they're broken. britain. they have to be punished. let me tell you, the right you, patrick, we did the right thing four years ago, right? we stood aside boris stood aside to give boris johnson an 80 seat majority to do brexit properly and to drive this country forward . they've this country forward. they've utterly failed. they lied to us. frankly if they had any moral decency or integrity , they would decency or integrity, they would do the right thing for britain . do the right thing for britain. they would stand aside. and i'm telling you, seven days a week i beat keir starmer in a head to head without fail. it's time they stood aside and did the right thing for the country. the country sick of the toxic tories. >> okay, richard , thank you >> okay, richard, thank you very, very much. that is richard tice uh, there. who is uh, certainly. look, he's . not certainly. look, he's. not incumbent, actually. richard. sorry. just quickly, mate, just quickly. you cumbria? quickly. are you in cumbria? is that it says that right? that's what it says here. what are you doing? that right? that's what it says hercampaigning)u doing? that right? that's what it says hercampaigning in doing? that right? that's what it says hercampaigning in cumbria? i've >> campaigning in cumbria? i've been skipton. i'm been campaigning in skipton. i'm all country, know. all over the country, you know. we've we've got we've got a job to do. we've got to patrick. i'm to save britain. patrick. i'm everywhere. everywhere everywhere. you're everywhere. back studios . in back in, back in the studios. in a hours time. don't you a few hours time. don't you worry. everywhere. worry. i'm everywhere. we're going influence it.

going to shape and influence it. >> yeah, that's what i was worried or not i worried about. whether or not i was one was going to have to cover one of shows some point. of your shows at some point. richard. you very much. of your shows at some point. richtake you very much. of your shows at some point. richtake care. you very much. of your shows at some point. richtake care. allu very much. of your shows at some point. richtake care. all right. much. you take care. all right. richard it was a richard tice there it was a reform you reform uk leader. what do you make there's lot of make of that? there's a lot of noise at the moment and it is split. inbox split. i look in the inbox a lot. gb at gb news. com lot. gb views at gb news. com and there of a split and there is a bit of a split over whether or not you know, people the deserve people think the tories deserve a you know, people think the tories deserve a you you know, people think the tories deserve a you hand ou know, people think the tories deserve a you hand the znow, people think the tories deserve a you hand the keys to do you want to hand the keys to downing labour. look downing street to labour. look coming rising tory star. coming up, rising tory star. well robert spells out coming up, rising tory star. weyoung ert spells out coming up, rising tory star. weyoung people spells out coming up, rising tory star. weyoung people why)ells out coming up, rising tory star. weyoung people why)ells need to to young people why they need to be sky high be concerned about sky high immigration . immigration numbers. >> there no way that we can >> there is no way that we can fix the housing crisis without solving this immigration question. the housing crisis is increasingly an immigration crisis . crisis. >> i managed to get the first proper sit down interview with robert jenrick since he quit as immigration. minister i will bnng immigration. minister i will bring you the full interview on both legal and illegal immigration very, very soon. but before that, hizb ut tahrir has.

finally been labelled a terrorist organisation and banned by the british government. i mean, they only had to call for muslim armies and jihad every single day. the week before it happened, and it was banned in germany. was already banned in germany. but leader keir but labour leader sir keir starmer apparently gave those radicals legal advice in germany. kelvin mackenzie is not happy and i'll get his views on today's report into today's devastating report into the grooming the rochdale grooming gang scandal is

gb news, right? let's crack on. james cleverly has announced today that the radical islamist group hizb ut tahrir will be proscribed as a terror organisation banned by the british government. the group sparked after repeatedly sparked outrage after repeatedly calling jihad on british calling forjihad on british streets while celebrating the hamas israel back in hamas attack on israel back in the 7th of october, and has previously banned previously been banned in germany, of all places and germany, china of all places and the majority of arab nations believe not. but with believe it or not. but with views like these, you can understand why all this action is jihad by the understand why all this action isjihad by the armies understand why all this action is jihad by the armies of the muslim countries, not for you

and me, who we are training to our hearts. >> there are people with arms in egypt, in pakistan , in saudi egypt, in pakistan, in saudi arabia , in jordan, across the arabia, in jordan, across the muslim world. >> a lovely bunch of lads . it's >> a lovely bunch of lads. it's worth noting that labour leader keir starmer voluntarily led a team of lawyers to the echr back in 2008, arguing that germany's prohibition of hizb ut tahrir breached their rights to freedom and religion of expression. kelvin mackenzie joins me now. has it taken the british government too long to act here? can keir starmer be trusted when it comes to people like that? well let's it's not only keir starmer . that refused to do starmer. that refused to do anything about that group . anything about that group. >> uh, blair turned . it down >> uh, blair turned. it down when he was, when, when they suggested cameron turned it down. so let's give credit and he doesn't get much credit these days to rishi for at least standing up against this group page. starmer a series page. uh, starmer on a series of issues . that will be one of

issues. that will be one of them. there will be loads of them. there will be loads of them as dpp as a qc will have been acting on free and gratis on occasions against what i think is the very interest of our nation . but for some our nation. but for some inexplicable reason, the voters . inexplicable reason, the voters. right now as that shocking polling which you've been talking about right, don't seem to embrace the mistakes that he's made in the past and the shocking mistakes. i'm sure he's going to make in the future. >> yeah. and also as well, there's a couple of issues that i'm that we're not i'm very worried that we're not able the labour party able to trust the labour party on which brings us on to whistleblower maggie oliver, who discussed at the start of tonight's show an independent review is today highlighted a series of shocking failures by authorities over the rochdale grooming the grooming gang scandal over the course of nearly a decade. greater manchester police, rochdale borough council left hundreds, of hundreds, if not thousands of vulnerable mercy vulnerable children at the mercy of paedophile grooming of ruthless paedophile grooming gangs, the majority of which were british, pakistani men. the suspects were overwhelmingly british pakistani, while the

victims were mainly white girls from poor backgrounds. kelvin did a fear of appearing racist contribute the authorities contribute to the authorities failure to act here? >> i 100. there was a period actually. i think that period has probably passed now, but there was a period where actually everybody was saying, i'll tell you what, it won't do my career any good if i get involved in all this kind of stuff, there's a lot of people of a different religion and they're campaigning they're all start campaigning against they're all start campaigning agteaching, wouldn't it in teaching, so why wouldn't it happen police force and happen in the police force and or local council ? and also or the local council? and also the council had a number the local council had a number of members of that community who were sitting, talking about obviously the british muslim community, the british muslim, certainly it. obviously, certainly on it. so obviously, you they're going to act you know, they're going to act for own have seen, for their own as we have seen, actually going on on the streets of london and elsewhere. so but honestly, the thing that i honestly, the thing that i honestly lifted my spirits about all this was that a whistleblower, right? sacked their careers, right? in order to fight to expose this . exactly to fight to expose this. exactly the same thing happened in the

post office. so there are good people out there right, who despite the fact that everything is could go crashing around them, knew that something was wrong at the heart of it . all wrong at the heart of it. all and crashed their way through it. our country should be so proud of the maggie's and the and of this world, and the mr bates of this world, who prepared stand up and who are prepared to stand up and fight against this kind of almost, you know, this huge . almost, you know, this huge. blob of people who say, oh, don't do anything. it'll cost your career. it will cost your livelihood. how brave are those people? honestly, i felt really powered up for them . and the powered up for them. and the fact is that that lady spoken to you and she's spoken to others today is still saying that there are hundreds of children who are going to be abused and are being abused. what about this report ? abused. what about this report? that report said that there were 96, 96 adults. they didn't identify . by them, but there identify. by them, but there were 96 adults out there who

were 96 adults out there who were who were still when the when the telford grooming gangs. >> by the way, it's important to say that no doubt local councils will refute the fact that they did not act on this based on their religion. so there we go. um, when it comes some of the um, when it comes to some of the victims in this, i've spoken to victims in this, i've spoken to victims of grooming who bumped into attackers the into their attackers at the shops. released back shops. they get released back out into community 2 or 3 years. we're talking about people who've been convicted here of raping young raping like tens of young underage sentences. underage girls. the sentences. and deport them. we and we can't deport them. we can't of them. can't deport some of them. >> rochdale >> well, in in the rochdale one, they ended up they ended up charging girls who charging one of the girls who had it was a joint had been raped by it was a joint charge. was madness . there charge. it was madness. there was madness going on there . i was madness going on there. i it's not often i would say it, but i'm grateful burnham for but i'm grateful for burnham for organising the inquiry in the first place. >> all right, kelvin, thank you very, much. is kelvin very, very much. that is kelvin mackenzie special mackenzie there a very special interview. it's coming up for you immigration you next. former immigration minister robert jenrick raises serious questions about the leadership . of rishi sunak. leadership. of rishi sunak. we've done three failed bills in three years. >> it's three strikes or you're

out . out. >> well, the rwanda rebel delivers an ultimatum to the pm. he says that mass immigration is bad for britain and he explains why the housing crisis is now an immigration crisis. it's a wide ranging interview. it's his first major sit down interview since he resigned as immigration minister, which of course comes on the back of devastating net migration figures. it comes on the back of this absolute circus thatis the back of this absolute circus that is going on about the rwanda deal at the moment. i talked legal talked to him about legal immigration. him immigration. i talked to him about illegal immigration. it is well a listen. there well worth a listen. and there is absolutely no need to turn that telly over. all right. this is patrick christys tonight, and it's only on gb news. >> that warm feeling inside ed from boxt boilers , sponsors of from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. very good evening to you. i'm alex burkill here with your latest gb news, weather cold weather forecast, the cold themes continue it themes set to continue and so it

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>> it's10:00. this is patrick christie's tonight and i am back with a bang because the pace of change with such a large number of people coming in each year is so great. >> it's putting real strain on communities , cities and on the communities, cities and on the kind of well integrated, united country that i want to see.

>> i have the first in—depth interview with former immigration minister robert jenrick since he resigned. he is absolutely scathing. my advice to the prime minister is you will not succeed unless you adopt this very robust approach and then we will let the public down. he goes big on mass immigration, cultural change, the rwanda bill, deportations and much , much more. it's an and much, much more. it's an incredibly revealing interview. it's an exclusive and it's all yours. next, i will also, of course, have all of tomorrow's front pages for you today with my pack columnist carole my press pack columnist carole malone, brexit party mep malone, former brexit party mep beunda malone, former brexit party mep belinda de lucy the belinda de lucy and the outspoken benjamin butterworth. get britain , here we go get ready britain, here we go. that's right, former immigration minister robert jenrick is not to be missed. he's next and he isn't holding back on rishi rwanda much, much more. that's all. after your . news

all. after your. news >> the top story at a minute after 10:00, a new report into the rochdale grooming scandal has found girls were left at the mercy of gangs due to failings by senior police and council leaders in manchester. the report highlights years of widespread organ and sexual abuse of hundreds of children. it also found that a reluctance among victims to make formal complaints was used as an excuse to avoid investigating action. the report identifies 96 men still deemed a potential risk to children, but this is only a proportion of the numbers involved in the abuse case itself . meanwhile, as you've itself. meanwhile, as you've been hearing, rishi sunak is facing growing pressure from right wing mps to toughen up his rwanda bill with more crunch votes this week. tonight, the party's deputy chairman, lee anderson , has confirmed he'll anderson, has confirmed he'll join apostle rebellion, saying he'll vote for amendments to the bill. the tory divisions come as

new figures reveal more than 200 migrants crossed the channel in small boats this weekend . small boats this weekend. commuters are in for a fresh series of delays as the aslef rail union announces more strike action train drivers will take part in a rolling programme of one day walkout from the end of this month, including a ban on overtime. the union says it's aiming to put pressure on what it describes as a tone deaf government, and it's calling for drivers to get their first pay rise in five years and stay warm. tonight we're set for the coldest night of the winter season , with temperatures set to season, with temperatures set to drop to minus 15 celsius in some places , it's due to a cold places, it's due to a cold plunge of arctic air sweeping in across the uk, making it 5 to 6 degrees colder than usual for this time of year. degrees colder than usual for this time of year . there's a this time of year. there's a snow and ice warning in place until tomorrow across northern ireland, scotland and even as far south as east anglia . that's

far south as east anglia. that's the news on gb news across the uk on tv, in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. this is britain's news channel. this is britain's news channel. this is patrick christys tonight. >> it's only on gb news and it's time now to deliver the first of my two part interview with former immigration minister robert , who resigned robert jenrick, who resigned from government last month over his that the his insistence that the government's controversial rwanda far rwanda plan didn't go far enough. now, in our revealing and at times scathing chat, mr jenrick dramatically claimed that britain's current uncontrolled mass migration policy was damaging the nation both culturally and economically . and he said that the pace of change to the uk was too hard and too fast. here's what he had to say when i kicked off the interview by asking you about the current net migration levels, especially in relation to people coming from muslim african countries and india as well. net migration levels of

around 700,000 a year, illegal migration is a matter of great pubuc migration is a matter of great public concern. >> i think in many respects this is more important because the numbers are so much higher and the impact upon people, the length and breadth of our country is even greater. having three quarters of a million people coming in perfectly legally every year is placing unbearable pressure on public services, on housing. it's stopping young people from getting the dream of home ownership and it's not helping the economy because it is a deterrent from companies investing in technology, things that drive up our gdp and productivity. it's under cutting the wages of british workers , the wages of british workers, andifs the wages of british workers, and it's also changing our country because the pace of change was such a large number of people coming in each year is so great. it's putting real strain on communities. so great. it's putting real strain on communities . and on strain on communities. and on the kind of well integrate and

united country that i want to see. and as conservatives, i think we should value very greatly. and as you say, the geographic . greatly. and as you say, the geographic. mix of people coming into this country is changing a lot. when we were within the european union, we were predominantly attracting people from the eu and from other like minded countries who share our values, like the united states , values, like the united states, canada, australia today , that is canada, australia today, that is somewhat less and are being replaced by very large numbers of people coming from other parts of the world who why could that be a problem though? >> why could that be a problem? >> well, i think there's a number of things. one is that some of those countries are not countries which our countries which share our western liberal values. and so when you do allow a very large number of people to come from those countries, you have to accept that it will change things in this country. and you do see that in some of the events of recent months, for example , like the protests over example, like the protests over gaza. i think there is a link to

mass migration within that , and mass migration within that, and that worries me. i do worry that there are real challenges with integration in our country today. you only have to go to community cities like bradford or leicester, near to where i represent, to see that there are people leading, segregated lives there and i don't want to see that as the future of our country. i want us to be a well integrated, united, cohesive united kingdom and you see particular examples and flashpoints as well, such as what happened a few years back in batley. and remember that the teacher who was involved in that incident is still fearful for his life because of the extremism that we see within our country. so for those country. and so for those reasons, think we should be reasons, i think we should be very careful and selective about who gets to come here. >> you must have been calling this around cabinet this out around the cabinet table. been making table. you must have been making these very clear . these points very, very clear. do other members of government not care about mass immigration

like this? i mean, did they ignore their own immigration minister? >> well, i think we took back control of the levers of our legal migration system when we left the european union. that was the great reform. um, you know, that's what many people was the great reform. um, you know, that'calling many people was the great reform. um, you know, that'calling maiyears. ple was the great reform. um, you know, that'calling maiyears. and have been calling for years. and the british public had essentially been voting for it at general election. and essentially been voting for it at the general election. and essentially been voting for it at the brexiteral election. and essentially been voting for it at the brexit referendum. and essentially been voting for it at the brexit referendum. buti in the brexit referendum. but then we didn't use them correctly . we essentially traded correctly. we essentially traded free movement with the european union for our free movement with the rest of the world, and we ianed the rest of the world, and we invited millions of people, often low skilled people, to come into our country. often low skilled people, to come into our country . and that come into our country. and that was a mistake. but we can correct it and that's the message that i've been , um, message that i've been, um, making and championing, uh, since i was made immigration minister and since i left, because i think it's so important that we use those levers that are now within our hands to bring down the numbers. there were those, including people who are in cabinet today, who i think made the wrong

judgement , that when people judgement, that when people voted to leave the european union, they only cared about control, not numbers. and i think people actually care deeply. they want to bring the numbers of people coming. >> do you think they get out? >> do you think they get out? >> that's an important point. i think you at the think that you look at the latest opinion you look latest opinion polls, you look at feel about at how people feel about immigration, the latest stats that was that on average, that i saw was that on average, people amount people underestimate the amount of we had by of net migration that we had by ten which is remarkable. ten times, which is remarkable. but of ten but still, nine out of ten constituencies wanted cut constituencies wanted to cut immigration, presumably immigration, so presumably they'd fit if they'd have some sort of fit if they'd have some sort of fit if they realise the real numbers . they realise the real numbers. do cabinet get this? do do the cabinet not get this? do they quite understand that? they not quite understand that? do ? do you think? >> well, well, you'd have to ask them. certainly true them. but it's certainly true that are relatively few of that there are relatively few of us making this argument us who are making this argument tonight in a very determined way. i'm proud the fact that way. i'm proud of the fact that we did secure the package at the end of last year, which will be the largest set of reforms to our migration system ever, our legal migration system ever, and will reduce the number of people coming in by around 300,000. but you've got to remember that leaves remember that that still leaves between 3 and 400,000. and every year coming in. and the polling

that you've just referred to shows the public want us to get down to the low tens of thousands. down to the low tens of thousands . so there's a massive thousands. so there's a massive task ahead . we've got to task ahead. we've got to implement those reforms that i put place quickly. so that put in place quickly. so that there isn't a fire sale in visas in the coming weeks. and we've got to bring forward more because the public expect us to. and i think some people in politics have become politics today have become conditioned to the idea that we will live in a country where there will be hundreds of thousands of people coming in every day, every year, legally , every day, every year, legally, that's not right. we've got to change that, and we've got to make the argument that this is socially and culturally harmful to the country that has nothing for our economy. it doesn't help gdp per capita , which is what i gdp per capita, which is what i care about. i want working people in this country to be better off. i don't want just better off. i don't want to just create, know , more gdp for create, you know, more gdp for the obr's statistics. that doesn't work for people in that exact point, because people make the economic case for mass migration and they say that we would be worse off without it.

>> we you know, you've seen >> are we you know, you've seen behind the curtain on this , are behind the curtain on this, are we capita ? what is we worse off per capita? what is the true extent of people coming over here? and you know, living on or in social housing on benefits or in social housing not being net economic benefits to this country? what's the truth there? well the truth is that trade did that because we've trade did some higher wage workers for a very large number of low wage workers in recent years, there is no argument that these people are making a big net contribution to the uk. >> i think far from it. contribution to the uk. >> i think far from it . you've >> i think far from it. you've seen people coming for in example, to work as a care worker and then bringing a number of their dependents with them . well, that's a false them. well, that's a false economy . i want to be paying economy. i want to be paying that british care worker a bit more. so that they have a fair wage and can look after their own family on that, not import somebody from southeast asia with their own family, which will cost tens of thousands of pounds to house, to educate their children, to ensure that they can have access to the nhs.

and for most british workers, the problem here is that by living on this drug of imported . living on this drug of imported. labour their wages are being undercut and their employers are not investing properly in their skills their training. skills and their training. and for future , the british for the future, the british economy. we're not investing enough technology . economy. we're not investing enough technology. in economy. we're not investing enough technology . in the enough in technology. in the things that will truly drive up productivity and make us all ficher. productivity and make us all richer . if productivity and make us all richer. if mass migration was the route to prosperity, we would be one of the richest countries in the world. but instead, over the last 10 or 20 years, we've seen productivity flatline and gdp stagnate. we've got to fundamentally change the economic model of our country and not just be hooked on importing foreign labour. >> since you resigned, the government appears to have rowed back a bit on things like the salary student visas, salary threshold, student visas, bringing over all key bringing dependents over all key parts basket that you parts of that basket that you really wanted to push forward. you've the leavers really wanted to push forward. you've in the leavers really wanted to push forward. you've in this the leavers really wanted to push forward. you've in this interviewavers really wanted to push forward. you've in this interview .lers really wanted to push forward. you've in this interview . look, already in this interview. look, i know that you were very close to he be to rishi sunak. can't he be trusted on immigration? it doesn't look he can.

trusted on immigration? it doewell,)ok he can. trusted on immigration? it doewell, |»k he can. trusted on immigration? it doewell, i hope he can. trusted on immigration? it doewell, i hope he; can. trusted on immigration? it doewell, i hope he can.. trusted on immigration? it doewell, i hope he can. i do >> well, i hope he can. i do think that the conservative party has lost its way on migration generally, and in particular on legal migration, because it's shown such a disinterest in this issue in recent months and years. i want to change that. that's one of the reasons i left government, so that i can make the argument for taking action, because our voters care passionately about it. there's no route to victory at the next general election or at the next general election or a majority without a conservative majority without showing action on this. and people to talk . people don't want to hear, talk. they see action and more they want to see action and more importantly than just the politics. i don't think this is the right thing for our country. i want to us be a country where workers are properly paid, where we're productive , where we're highly productive, where the pace of change is not so fast that people can't understand, and their country is the one that they want it to be. you know, this is a really, really important for the future of the country. and that's why it's that rishi it's so important now that rishi sunak and the government bring

those changes that i agreed with them into play very quickly and more importantly than that, bnng more importantly than that, bring further changes forward so that we can meet our manifesto commitment. >> it doesn't look like they're going to, though, does it? unfortunately, it looks as though that they're going to drag it out over a series of reviews potentially another reviews for potentially another year or which would mean year or so, which would mean that implemented that this isn't implemented before general before the next general election. maybe election. that to me and maybe many election. that to me and maybe ma well, would be a huge >> well, that would be a huge mistake. would mistake. patrick and that would guarantee at next guarantee defeat at the next general , because this general election, because this is quite clearly one of the most important issues in british politics to many voters, many conservative there's the politics to many voters, many conseimportant there's the politics to many voters, many conseimportant issue. ere's the politics to many voters, many conseimportant issue. and the politics to many voters, many conseimportant issue. and ase most important issue. and as i say, the time for talk is clearly over. all we can do to win the trust of those conservative voters now is to deliver . and so i really urge deliver. and so i really urge the prime minister to take up the prime minister to take up the mantle of this, and i will certainly keep pressing it as hard as i can just before we move on to the illegal side of things. >> i just want to drill down. so as as you're concerned, as far as you're concerned, former immigration minister, it

is net is unequivocal that net migration of the levels that it is currently at, at the moment is currently at, at the moment is damaging. britain culturally and terms infrastructure . and in terms of infrastructure. so in terms of the nhs, in terms of burden on our education of the burden on our education system, of burden system, in terms of the burden on social housing, on housing and social housing, and all points you on housing and social housing, and making all points you on housing and social housing, and making when points you on housing and social housing, and making when yomts you on housing and social housing, and making when you wereu were making when you were immigration minister. yes, absolutely . absolutely. >> you know, take an example >> you know, to take an example of you know, i'm one of of housing, you know, i'm one of the foremost champions in parliament building, the foremost champions in parl it'sent building, the foremost champions in parlit's incredibly building, the foremost champions in parl it's incredibly important], and it's incredibly important that people onto that we help young people onto the there is no the housing ladder. there is no way that can fix the housing way that we can fix the housing crisis without solving this immigration question. the housing crisis is increasingly an immigration crisis. now. we'd have to be building not 300,000 new homes a year, as is the government's target, but more than half a million new homes a yeah than half a million new homes a year. just to keep up with the pace of migration . you can see pace of migration. you can see polling now amongst young people where they see that it is deeply unfair that they are unable to get on the housing ladder. they're spending more and more of on rent because of their income on rent because there are so many new arrivals in the country. and so it's for

those young people as well that we've got to resolve this issue. and on the cultural question, which important , which i think is so important, there mantra to which we there is a mantra to which we are increasingly expected to recite , like a religious recite, like a religious catechism, that that all immigration is good, that diversity is strength , that we diversity is strength, that we are the world's most successful , are the world's most successful, multicultural, multi—ethnic democracy. and i think that's wrong and very complacent . there wrong and very complacent. there are real problems in our country with integration. the pace of change is too fast for many people, and that's why we've got to fix this problem. and bring down the levels of net migration i >> -- >> one heck of a lot there. the illegal side of things is still to come, and that is incredibly revealing. to respond now, i'm joined daily express joined again by daily express columnist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth, and former brexit belinda de lucy brexit party mep belinda de lucy benjamin. just to react to that first half of what we've seen there. yeah, he says that diversity is not our greatest strength, that young people like

yourself should want to cut net migration order to solve the migration in order to solve the housing crisis. well, he's totally wrong. he's totally wrong. you know, he's been pretty been in government pretty much the time. the tories have the whole time. the tories have been power and they haven't been in power and they haven't cut immigration. >> they've put the numbers up. >> they've put the numbers up. >> so don't know how he >> so i don't know how he can sit there and suddenly have a problem voted problem with it because he voted for every time. and the fact for it every time. and the fact is done very, very is they've done very, very little solve the housing little to solve the housing crisis. you know, there are hundreds of thousands of second homes buy let homes that homes and buy to let homes that has than has more of a problem than immigration. only immigration. and it was only last year that the government accepted it would accepted figures that it would lose billion year if it cut lose £5 billion a year if it cut immigration to the tens of thousands. i think that's what robert jenrick to accept. robert jenrick needs to accept. belinda. talking belinda. he was talking there about conservative about how the conservative party has way. we've become has lost its way. we've become addicted mass addicted to the drug of mass migration . and he that the migration. and he says that the cultural problems with this now are not spoken about enough. do you agree with that? i definitely with that. definitely agree with that. >> cultures are the >> not all cultures are the same. not all cultures are equal . you know, our ancestors have fought years to fought for hundreds of years to protect women's to protect women's rights, to protect women's rights, to protect rights , to, to, you protect gay rights, to, to, you know, give, give everyone one.

uh, i tell you what the biggest thing blasphemy laws, they've come through come back in through through the old we fought tooth old back door. we fought tooth and to get rid blasphemy and nail to get rid of blasphemy laws in this country. and now they're in. and they're sneaking back in. and because not all cultures are the same, we to be same, i think we do need to be careful when we're importing hundreds thousands pounds. hundreds of thousands pounds. it's huge number. it's it's such a huge number. it's such a short of time with such a short space of time with no integration then no integration problems. then culturally, and girls are culturally, women and girls are more at risk we when we more at risk when we when we have we don't have to import, when we don't have to import, when we don't have to, when rely on these have to, when we rely on these cheap labour from very cheap labour from from very islamist countries . islamist countries. >> there was a line in that carol i think under carol that i think flew under the radar, i don't to the radar, but i don't want to let it. okay. i was keen let it. okay. i was very keen to say, they the say, did they ignore the immigration minister? were you the the one the one, were you the one pushing stuff and were you pushing this stuff and were you ignored by people around the cabinet table? and response cabinet table? and the response there , really reading there, really reading between there, really reading between the there were the lines was that there were very people and, ah, very very few people and, ah, very few cabinet few people in cabinet who seriously . care about seriously. care about immigration in the numbers that we've got at the moment. >> so the bottom is to >> so the bottom line is to criticise multiculturalism or diversity in this country is tantamount to heresy. now, you know, not racist to have

know, it is not racist to have concerns about both. it's not racist to be concerned about massive numbers of people coming to this country from cultures which are different from us culturally , religiously, culturally, religiously, ethnically . it's diversity ethnically. it's diversity hasn't united us. i really believe it's divided us. and braverman talked about this, remember, in her new york speech and she said, the thing about multiculturalism here is that it makes no demands on the people , makes no demands on the people, on incomers to integrate. and thatis on incomers to integrate. and that is true . we have massive that is true. we have massive sections of this country who live totally separate lives under separate under totally separate laws, laws which are really harmful to women , sharia law, you know, we women, sharia law, you know, we know that's bad. we know that women don't have rights and we know about stuff know we hear things about stuff happening to women that are vile and can't intervene because and we can't intervene because it's a different culture now. i'm sorry. they have people coming duty to coming here, have a duty to integrate, and if they don't want to, i don't really understand they're here. understand why they're here. >> i don't accept that. >> i don't accept that. >> leads the world >> london leads the world because multiculturalism . because of its multiculturalism. >> see of all >> you see people of all different religions side

different religions living side by side. >> e seen by side. >> seen the protests e seen the protests a >> you've seen the protests on a saturday, recent, most saturday, most recent, the most recent figures show recent immigration figures show that with most that the country with the most immigrants nigeria immigrants to britain is nigeria to they're overwhelmingly immigrants to britain is nigeria to to 1ey're overwhelmingly immigrants to britain is nigeria to to be're overwhelmingly immigrants to britain is nigeria to to be christian1elmingly immigrants to britain is nigeria to to be christian and ingly going to be christian and probably have quite similar views to belinda. >> that we're >> the truth is that we're culturally and culturally better off and economically didn't have economically if we didn't have immigrants, would immigrants, britain would be broke . broke. >> say the opposite. >> say the opposite. >> says he says >> well, he says it's he says not jenrick was pretty not robert jenrick was pretty clear should shout at clear that you should shout at robert jenrick because he voted for better when we have >> better off when we have people demonstrating in our streets, a million plus people in our streets, teacher in our streets, and a teacher hiding in batley. >> have much more >> guys, i have got much more for row about in just for you to row about in just a minute you're going minute, because you're not going to things to believe some of the things that come out of this interview. in section, in the next section, more explosive this explosive elements of this interview former interview with former immigration interview with former immigriyour shortly. coming your way shortly. >> advice to the prime >> my advice to the prime minister is you will not succeed unless you adopt this very robust approach. and then we will let the public down. it would cost more than half £1 million integrate and support million to integrate and support every single illegal migrant. i think, frankly, it's disgraceful that people are dying as a result of their inaction .

result of their inaction. >> right? he pulls back the curtain on the true extent of the cost of illegal immigration and how difficult it is to deport absolute rhiannon jones. i'm going to be talking to him again very shortly. this is patrick christys tonight. it's only i don't only on gb news and i don't think to anywhere. think you want to go anywhere. do

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gb news and it's time now to bring you the second part of my pretty explosive interview with former immigration minister robert jenrick. after detailing how uncontrolled mass legal immigration threatens the identity and culture of our country, we moved on to discuss the small boats crisis and what amendments the rwanda plan needs for it to finally get off the ground , and that hangs over this. >> is does it work? and that's all it really matters to me because creating a workable deterrent means that we stop the boats and that we fix this problem that's causing so much harm to our country. i don't believe the bill does that. and there are two ways, least, there are two ways, at least, that we have to fix it. one is stopping this merry go round of individual claims where an illegal migrant can break into our country and then claim that rwanda might be generally safe . rwanda might be generally safe. but it's not safe for me because of this or that reason. usually spurious, planted in their mind by a lawyer or legal representative. we have to stop that. and i know having done the

job, being one of the authors of this policy, that every single migrant will do that and the policy will quickly fall apart. so one of the things that i want to amend the bill is to end that . so you come here, you will be swiftly be detained and removed to rwanda and all bar the most exceptional circumstances . and exceptional circumstances. and the second thing we've got to fix are these injunctions from the strasbourg court of the kind that stopped the flight a year and a half ago, the so—called pyjama injunctions, where some foreign judge can say at the last minute , often without last minute, often without giving reasons that the flight can't take off. at the moment, the government's position is that they don't want to see this, but that it would be in breach of the law , in breach of breach of the law, in breach of international law. if we were to do that. so i want to amend the bill to say no . the default bill to say no. the default position is that we will ignore these injunctions and we'll get those planes. >> she has not given any indication he's going to do that yet. there county mean, yet. there county i mean, today again said, i won't let

again he said, i won't let foreign courts get in the way, but any of but without making any kind of amendments . is he amendments whatsoever. is he lying that? does he have lying about that? does he have the bottle? >> don't know, but >> well, i don't know, but i think would be a political think it would be a political mistake of the first order to allow a foreign court to stop a flight and to prevent the scheme from taking off and being operationalised at the moment, the prime minister's own lawyers are saying that it would be illegal for him or any minister to sanction , ignoring a rule 39 to sanction, ignoring a rule 39 and so my amendment is absolutely critical to enabling this scheme to, to, to work or as night follows, day will be in the same situation that priti patel was in the summer of 2022. flights grounded , scheme aborted flights grounded, scheme aborted and the small boats crisis continues. the only countries in the world that have fixed this problem and some have australia, greece and more recently have taken the most robust approach . taken the most robust approach. thatis taken the most robust approach. that is the one that i took as immigration minister. that's what i wanted to take with this

bill. and my advice to the prime minister is you will not succeed unless adopt this very unless you adopt this very robust approach. and then we will let the public down. some people say that the channel migrant crisis no migrant crisis poses no particular security risk to ordinary people britain. ordinary people in britain. >> again, have first hand >> you, again, have first hand experience of people experience of some of the people who coming the who are coming across the channel. are who channel. there are people who have come across in small boats who are now subjects of interest to services , to our intelligence services, have to try track because we have to try to track because we believe that they are a threat to the public. >> and there are also people who have come across on small boats or otherwise illegally, who have committed very serious offences in this country. three committed very serious offences in this country . three people in this country. three people who have raped and murdered british citizens . and that british citizens. and that worries me intensely, as it should do. anyone who is in government, why can't we deport them? >> you know, a lot of people were screaming at the television screen. now get on the screen. now get them on the first flight out here. first flight out of here. >> well, well, part of >> why not? well, well, part of it is, is web it is, is the web of international treaties and obugafions international treaties and obligations are obligations that we are a to. party those

party and so some of those people , oil ministers have people, oil ministers have intervened to try to remove from the country, and then they have been able to frustrate their removal years, sometimes removal for years, sometimes indefinitely , claiming as a indefinitely, claiming as a result of european convention on human rights, uh, obligation , human rights, uh, obligation, that they now have a family life in the uk. and it would be a tragedy if they were, you know, torn away from their wife or their kids when we care their kids when what we care aboutis their kids when what we care about is protecting the british pubuc about is protecting the british public and for others, it's been the fact that our legal system is so slow that those processes just take far too long. what this teaches you is . you've got this teaches you is. you've got to stop people coming in the first place, because once they're here, it's inevitably very difficult . so what you've very difficult. so what you've got to do is have the strongest possible deterrent. that's why a policy like rwanda is actually so important. saw some deaths so important. we saw some deaths at the weekend in channel, unfortunately. >> eu stop this >> could the eu just stop this now? wasting money now? and are we wasting money sending try sending it to the french to try to patrol borders? to patrol our borders? >> , the could a lot >> well, the eu could do a lot more . uh, it real tragedy.

more. uh, it was a real tragedy. what happened in the channel. but tragedies like will but tragedies like that will continue to occur. and the eu have it within their power to do a lot more . the boats that are a lot more. the boats that are are we have very strong intelligence that tracks them all the way from china through turkey, up through europe. so these are the boats, the boats and the engines. we have a great deal of intelligence about their movements. we provide that to partners. some are supportive of the uk . at the end of last year the uk. at the end of last year i went to bulgaria, where the government is doing a lot to help us seizing boats. but the eu will not instruct customs officers who find these boats and engines to seize and destroy them. they could do that tomorrow. and i think, frankly, it's disgraceful that they don't. so they are more concerned about whether or not a plug concerned about whether or not a plug or an iphone charger is uniform than whether or not these death traps, these boats and engines that they know are bound for the english channel, they know are going to be used, as happened this week , to put,

as happened this week, to put, uh, people into often in freezing weather, which will deflate and start to fall apart within hours and risk the lives of those migrants they will not do that. and i have engaged with them, as have many other people within government, and i really urge them to take their responsibility. if not out of concern for illegal migration, but out of concern for people's lives. they have not shown the resolve that i would expect. i think, frankly, it's disgraceful that people are dying as a result their inaction . result of their inaction. >> if labour get in, how likely do you think it would be that the civil service would advise them to maybe have some kind of amnesty to clear that asylum backlog? is that something that was ever mooted at all with you? >> well, i'm very worried about the a labour the prospect of a labour government for lots of reasons, but one of them, of course, is immigration. only have immigration. and you only have to their record to look back on their record when they were last in power on illegal do illegal migration. they did do an amnesty. the uh, labour government , with john reid as

government, with john reid as home secretary, did announce where they literally wrote out to illegal migrants and said, sign this bit of paper, accept this offer, and you'll be given status to remain in the uk. i was offered that solution to the asylum backlog and turned it down. that's not right . down. that's not right. >> that's interesting. no, that's really interesting. so you obviously turn it down, but you obviously turn it down, but you were offered, were you? >> yeah . no, i was advised that >> yeah. no, i was advised that that was the as you'd expect. that fastest that is the simplest, fastest way to clear these cases. but it would wrong because the would be wrong because the system shouldn't be system shouldn't just be efficient , it be rigorous efficient, it should be rigorous that needs to be a lot more that it needs to be a lot more rigorous than today, rigorous than it is today, not less . less. >> look, just quickly on the issue of migrant hotels . we issue of migrant hotels. we heard government saying heard the government saying they're close down 50 they're going to close down 50 of hotels and that of those hotels, and that sounded really sounded like it was a really good the good thing, especially for the taxpayer. , is it taxpayer. but actually, is it because these people have got to taxpayer. but actually, is it becesomewhere,aople have got to taxpayer. but actually, is it becesomewhere, haven't|ve got to taxpayer. but actually, is it becesomewhere, haven't they?: to live somewhere, haven't they? what consequences are we what kind of consequences are we seeing the moment? seeing of that at the moment? >> think that that >> you shouldn't think that that is the story . anyone is the end of the story. anyone who's then claims who's granted asylum then claims benefits for families. get on the housing list for social

housing in community issues, and people have to be looked after one way or another. we have legal obligations to do so . legal obligations to do so. >> of those people being moved out of those hotels, in your experience, then the vast majority of them to majority of them are going to be unable themselves. unable to support themselves. do you is going to be you think this is going to be a case social housing? it's case of social housing? it's going of benefits. going to be a case of benefits. and this reality it. and this is the reality of it. >> those >> i think for most of those people, years to people, it will take years to properly integrate them and make them. our them. net contributors to our country. and there's been one study of study by by the university of amsterdam that suggests it amsterdam that suggests that it would than half £1 would cost more than half £1 million integrate and support million to integrate and support every single illegal migrant. and that's the sort of scale of the cost that's why we mustn't just deal with the symptoms of this problem. we've got to fix it once and for all. >> robert, thank you very, very much. robert jenrick much. thank you. robert jenrick there, in first in—depth there, in his first in—depth interview as interview since resigning as immigration . but immigration minister, he. but wait, there's a bit more, actually, because this is what robert jenrick said when i asked him if he would actively vote against rishi's rwanda bill. >> well, i'm certainly going to

support the amendments there in my name and those with bill cash, and there's now 60 conservative them. conservative mps backing them. i hope will move hope the government will move and produce amendments that create a bill that will actually work. if they won't, then i've been clear that i'm not going to support the bill, and i'll actively consider voting against it, because all that matters is what works. and i'm not going to support a bill that doesn't work well. >> it's wrong , well. >> it's wrong, isn't it, to respond now i'm joined again by daily express columnist carole malone, journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth, former brexit party broadcaster benjamin buttebelindaformer brexit party broadcaster benjamin buttebelinda deluise,'exit party broadcaster benjamin buttebelinda deluise, benjamin mep belinda deluise, benjamin £500,000 per illegal immigrant, it might cost us two. essentially integrate them if they want to integrate into british society. so heck of lot. >> i mean, look, we know that immigrants add more to the economy than they take away because figures of when economy than they take away be

more to do with him being yet another tory mp hoping to be tory leader than it does caring about immigration, because all of the problems he talks about, he was voting with the government, he was in the cabinet or in a ministerial position for years. >> yeah, but to be fair, it's one of the reasons. >> yeah, i think this is a hypocrite and it shows that the government is falling apart because he's more interested in getting when they getting the top job when they lose than i. lose the election than i. >> your scepticism. i do >> i get your scepticism. i do get scepticism, but i think get your scepticism, but i think he made it very clear to me that the reason why he was now in the position that he's in is so that he can actually be robust, he can actually be more robust, and bit of having and he was a bit sick of having to i think. to toe the line, i think. but belinda, was a thing that belinda, there was a thing that stood you stood out to you there. you gasped about. he revealed that the union just the european union could just stop and boats stop all the boats and the boats engines customs engines at any of their customs officials, and they actively choose not do that. i mean, choose to not do that. i mean, surely like , it's almost like, surely like, it's almost like, what a three year old child could come up with, find and destroy the boats. >> top priority. >> number one, top priority. that's anyone would do if that's what anyone would do if they wanted protect their

they wanted to protect their citizens their borders citizens first, their borders first, and the eu making a choice not to do that contributes to this massive failure they have on the migrant crisis that labour somehow want to sign up with the eu to join their brilliant solution. but their brilliant solution. but the problem with the eu is not just merkel opening the doors to the world, saying come to europe , it's the schengen zone. it's the fact that they haven't helped italy, they haven't helped italy, they haven't helped greece. the reason that the on the rise in the far right are on the rise in the far right are on the rise in the because they've the eu is because they've complete failed on the migrant crisis, and it is putting their citizens people citizens at risk. people are getting are being getting hurt, churches are being burnt. with burnt. you've got issues with anti—semitism across europe because migration and because of mass migration and the left enabling them. so something has to be done. i thought he was brilliant on that. but the eu, you don't have to encourage to it. to encourage me to dislike it. >> point for me >> yeah. carol, key point for me on which i was very keen on that, which i was very keen to drill is, will to drill down on, is, is will labour be told by the civil service if they get into power that they are serious option is to have an asylum seeker amnesty. he said he was offered that. he turned it down. i

appreciate we're not in a great situation here, he it situation here, but he turned it down. think labour would? down. do you think labour would? >> i don't think they will >> no, i don't think they will for i think labour for a second. i think labour wants think their policies wants i think their policies open doors . i they've got open doors. i think they've got no control or to no plans to, to control or to halt illegal immigration or any kind of immigration. i think they agree that we know we have a elites in this country, a lot of elites in this country, and there's lot labour and there's a lot of labour people elites who people and there's elites who want immigration, less. want more immigration, not less. they back into the they want us to go back into the eu. they don't want britain to have own identity. they want have its own identity. they want an international identity. and i think they will make that happen by by opening the doors again, you know, do versity is fine, as is multiculturalism and as is immigration. but it cannot become the basis our national become the basis of our national identity . and that is because identity. and that is because that don't have one that means we don't have one basically. i, i just think, basically. and i, i just think, you know , as i said earlier, you know, as i said earlier, it's diversity hasn't united us. it's divided us. and, you know, braverman was slated. she was she was she was accused of peddung she was she was accused of peddling dangerous rhetoric and now whenever people say , well, now whenever people say, well, jenrick is saying there he'll be

slated as a racist by a huge sections of the elites in this country. you talked about the schengen countries in the eu countries , all of now are countries, all of them now are trying their rwanda. trying to find their own rwanda. they a deal where people they want a deal where people are outside of the are processed outside of the country because they cannot cope with the influx. no, schengen is creating more walls across europe that then trump ever threatened to. >> well, luckily it's like crazy. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> great stuff. we are going to be returning to stuff like that because the front pages have been dropped front of me, and been dropped in front of me, and there's on there's some stuff about that on there's some stuff about that on the pages. would the front pages. as you would imagine. up after the imagine. but coming up after the queen reportedly fumed that the sussexes queen reportedly fumed that the susse lilibet, runaway child lilibet, did the runaway royals late royals lie about having her late majesty's permission to use the name? is time to run name? but next it is time to run you through the first of tomorrow's front pages. hot off the are some rock the press. there are some rock stars on there. this is patrick christys and it's only

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we? in the liveliest paper of you, you will get anywhere on the telly. it's the very first front pages, right now . the front pages, right now. the metro 96 rochdale groomers still free. child sex scandal report. we spoken heck of a lot about that tonight. i think we'll return to it. whistleblowers vindicated. the police and council rebuke failing council rebuke for failing girls. load of girls. basically a load of monsters out there on monsters are still out there on the street. the eye migrants taken flight taken off first rwanda flight are hotels 18 are still in asylum hotels 18 months later. well, yeah, that's because we didn't send them to rwanda, isn't it the son, kyle, to dad again, this time with to be dad again, this time with his wife ? exclusive stars baby his wife? exclusive stars baby number six. prolific. that guy . number six. prolific. that guy. absolutely prolific. the daily telegraph tory deputy chairman to rebel over rwanda. bill may i urge this show is urge you, after this show is oven urge you, after this show is over, rewind on youtube, over, to rewind on youtube, go on social media and hit up that interview that i did with lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith, those clarke—smith, both of those deputy that they deputy chairman saying that they may well well , well saying that may well well, well saying that they may well end up not be that not be that bothered if they are sacked over rebelling over the

old rwanda bill. we go to the guardian, defiant attack guardian, defiant houthis attack cargo conflict widens in cargo ship as conflict widens in the yep. um and the middle east. yep. um and final here. we've got the final one here. we've got the express for you. it's an inside story. oh, no, sorry. it's not. i'll defy your rogue judges who block rwanda flights. that's the prime uh i think a lot prime minister. uh i think a lot of people are scoffing at this. we've just heard from robert jenrick, sorry, but i'm jenrick, and i'm sorry, but i'm just. i don't believe it. i don't sorry , don't believe it. i'm sorry, rishi, believe it. rishi, i don't believe it. i believe i see let's believe it when i see it. let's go to on the inside. now go to a story on the inside. now all right. bbc slammed in gary lineker after making rubbish excuse match day excuse for match of the day star. the bbc was accused of star. so the bbc was accused of talking last night after talking rubbish last night after it gary lineker it claimed that gary lineker mistook anti israeli tweet mistook an anti israeli tweet for item football news. so for an item of football news. so gary lineker , uh, essentially gary lineker, uh, essentially tweeted something about israel being banned from taking part in football . matches. he has, i football. matches. he has, i mean, objectively, i would argue taken a side when it comes to the israel hamas conflict and gary lineker no doubt will probably but carol, probably deny that. but carol, i'll start with you. i mean, look , look how much more . of

look, look how much more. of this are we going to get from gary lineker? you know, you'll be telling us that he got clapped m&s next after clapped in m&s again next after tweeting which is also tweeting this, which is also absolute many times absolute bs. how many more times does great does the bbc, the great corporation, humiliate itself? do ? defending lineker for his >> do? defending lineker for his outrageous tweet tweet granted this wasn't he retweeted this, but to pretend that this man who puts himself across, you know, as a great political intellect and a political brain that he he thought that were talking about football and not news, this is nonsense. and the bbc know it. and but the rules don't apply to lineker. we that lineker. we know that we've we've experience of it. we've had experience of it. >> yeah. look, i've seen him outrageously . um do i say lie . outrageously. um do i say lie. can't say that. but anyway, i've seen him say some things that i've not necessarily believed when it came to, you know, using the of 1930s germany. i the language of 1930s germany. i wasn't about nazis. wasn't talking about the nazis. well, , but what was well, i'm sorry, but what was 1932? but you weren't . 1932? sorry, but you weren't. weren't you talking about the nazis? go. look, i'm nazis? oh, you go. oh, look, i'm sorry. slipped . i sorry. my finger slipped. i mistook a tweet the mistook a tweet about the football. did you really?

football. uh, did you really? i mean, benjamin, think football. uh, did you really? i meéquite benjamin, think football. uh, did you really? i meéquite likeenjamin, think football. uh, did you really? i meéquite like garyrin, think football. uh, did you really? i meéquite like gary lineker,nk you quite like gary lineker, don't you? i mean, not don't you? but, i mean, not about this, do about this, really, do you? >> don't share the about this, really, do you? >> of don't share the about this, really, do you? >> of the don't share the about this, really, do you? >> of the tweetion't share the about this, really, do you? >> of the tweet about1are the about this, really, do you? >> of the tweet about israelie view of the tweet about israel and that's and football, but that's slightly different because the fact work in news fact is he doesn't work in news and affairs. talks and current affairs. he talks about living from about football for a living from the bbc. see? and i think their rules are clear that if you don't work and current don't work in news and current affairs, you can opinions affairs, you can have opinions on issues. and i think on these issues. and i think it's the that, it's ridiculous. the idea that, you know, michael portillo making documentaries making train documentaries would have people know have to cease to let people know that small conservative. >> of course, his trousers give that way . that way. >> yeah, well, exactly. but do you know what i think this is just another for people to just another way for people to try and attack the bbc. he's allowed opinions. he's not allowed his opinions. he's not making news, documentaries or anything we should anything like it. and we should lay lineker. lay off gary lineker. >> out his opinions >> he's putting out his opinions on platform created on a platform that was created for him by his position at the bbc, and that's a fact. oh was it? the rules were changed to accommodate him? even i've had rules. >> even i know gary lineker's famous because of his decades of football. don't. football. no, you don't. >> belinda. belinda. >> belinda. belinda. >> on. gary >> belinda. come on. gary when was footballer even you

know. >> all right. no clue . belinda >> all right. no clue. belinda got a clue. >> he's an idiot. gary lineker got a clue. >:toie's an idiot. gary lineker got a clue. >:to retweetdiot. gary lineker got a clue. >:to retweet that gary lineker is to retweet that gary lineker is to retweet that gary lineker is an idiot to go on about nazi germany rhetoric, and then to tweet out israel should be banned. he should be ashamed of himself . banned. he should be ashamed of himself. he's he's a prize hypocrite that he's done more damage to the bbc than anything in the last few years. and the bbc little lapdog. bbc are like his little lapdog. when will grow spine and when will they grow a spine and get him? get rid of him? >> stick with you, >> let me stick with you, belinda. of the daily belinda. the front of the daily telegraph tory deputy chairman to bill. to rebel over rwanda. bill. so this anderson brendan this is lee anderson brendan clarke—smith. going to clarke—smith. they are going to vote to the vote for the amendments to the rwanda to them rwanda bill. i put it to them directly at the start of this show. if the amendments fall , do show. if the amendments fall, do they then vote against rishi sunak bill? do they resign? are they bothered if they get sacked? they didn't seem to be bothered. if they got sacked, they they were going they didn't say they were going to they also, to resign, but they also, crucially were crucially didn't say they were actually against actually going to vote against the rwanda bill. >> tories the rwanda bill. >> well, principal tories are as rare these days. rare as hen's teeth these days. so to stand up rare as hen's teeth these days. so be to stand up rare as hen's teeth these days. so be principled to stand up rare as hen's teeth these days. so be principled toriesand up rare as hen's teeth these days. so be principled tories andrp and be principled tories and actually put their vote behind something or something they either like or remove they don't like

remove it, if they don't like it, putting it, they shouldn't be putting their name anywhere a bill their name anywhere near a bill without with it. without 100% agreeing with it. thenif without 100% agreeing with it. then if they stay that principled they get the principled and they get the sack, then will be heroes. sack, then they will be heroes. but they go along with it, he but if they go along with it, he says backing his says he's backing his constituency, constituents, says he's backing his constituen(at constituents, says he's backing his constituen(at leastynstituents, says he's backing his constituen(at least had uents, says he's backing his constituen(at least had something something at least had something like 55% of his constituents want against it. >> so he's doing that. >> so he's doing that. >> if only lee anderson were as interested in principles as he is tv cameras, then maybe he would effect the would have some effect on the tory the is they tory party the fact is that they are posturing because they are just posturing because they know difficult know this is a difficult issue electorally them. that much electorally for them. that much is evident. you've seen that in the popularity of the polling, the popularity of reform, they're actually reform, but they're not actually going anything march going to do anything about march . we had more of them just to point out, when robert jenrick resigned, then didn't resigned, he then still didn't vote rwanda upstage. vote against rwanda upstage. these are just playing these people are just playing games while in government. >> this is exactly why the pubuc >> this is exactly why the public believe anything public doesn't believe anything they about immigration, ian. they say about immigration, ian. because they're fighting like cats in a sack. different sections of the party they sections of the party and they can't anything. sections of the party and they can't butnything. sections of the party and they can't but they 1g. sections of the party and they can't but they also don't >> yeah, but they also don't believe them . so, you believe labour us them. so, you know, i mean, how can you how can you trust labour? again, it

comes back to that. i think labour going be offered labour are going to be offered amnesty. got amnesty. no. look, i've got a little right of reply little bit of a right of reply here from the bbc, okay. a little of telegraph. the little bit of a telegraph. the bbc aren't bbc told the telegraph we aren't going commentary going to give a commentary on individuals or individual tweets, sweet. tweets, right? oh sweet. that's it. up with the it. look, i'm coming up with the queen reportedly fuming after harry meghan her name harry and meghan took her name lilibet, second born harry and meghan took her name lilibeand second born harry and meghan took her name lilibeand gary second born harry and meghan took her name lilibeand gary linekeri born harry and meghan took her name lilibeand gary lineker inorn harry and meghan took her name lilibeand gary lineker in bother child and gary lineker in bother yet calls yet again after backing calls for to be banned from for israel to be banned from international football. things could i crown could get heated as i crown tonight's britain and tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. yeah , and i've tonight's greatest britain and uniymore kass. yeah , and i've tonight's greatest britain and uniymore front yeah , and i've tonight's greatest britain and uniymore front pagesah , and i've tonight's greatest britain and uniymore front pages for and i've tonight's greatest britain and uniymore front pages for you i've tonight's greatest britain and uniymore front pages for you .'ve got more front pages for you. absolutely. go to bed, absolutely. do not go to bed, synertek

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giveaway. get him phil back of the net, taking home ten grand in cash. a brand new iphone 15 £500 to spend in a store of his choice. he recently got engaged to his girlfriend. hey, wonderful. so he's looking forward to putting his winnings towards celebrating the big day later year. come later this year. can i come please? phil i want to come to the wedding. listen to the moment was told that moment that he was told that he'd some really good >> i've got some really good news for you, okay? you're the winner of the great british giveaway . giveaway. >> you're joking. >> you're joking. >> really? seriously it's not a wine i never wanted any in my life. >> well, congratulations . you've >> well, congratulations. you've won £10,000. oh my god. oh, god . won £10,000. oh my god. oh, god. >> oh, you shocked me. >> oh, you shocked me. >> you've won a brand new iphone 15 pro max . wow. and you've also 15 pro max. wow. and you've also won £500 to spend in the store of your choice . oh my god , can't of your choice. oh my god, can't believe it. >> yeah, thank you very much. yeah >> dans yeah >> drinks on phil. what a mate. all right, well, there we go. well done. uh, right. okay that could be you. next. remember, we

will do it again. now, uh, the great british giveaway launches up again on the 29th of january, exclusively on gb news. who knew? certainly not me. although possibly should done. possibly i should have done. anyway, reveal anyway, it's time now to reveal today's greatest britain and union hacks. all right, union jack hacks. all right, carol is your greatest britain. >> mine is the thousands of brits who attended a pro—israel rally at the weekend at trafalgar square this these people went to this rally to remind people the time is running out for the poor. hostages are hostages 100 days. we have. we are women, children, the who are being held the elderly who are being held and tortured by the hamas butchers. and the world appears to have forgotten about them. so thanks for reminding us. >> good benjamin. >> good start, benjamin. >> good start, benjamin. >> who >> mine is keir starmer, who spoke jewish labour spoke at the jewish labour movement conference, speaking up for issues carl for the same issues as what carl just also also just mentioned, but also also because he's clearly on track to because he's clearly on track to be the next prime minister, thank god. oh all right, go on, belinda, mine is the legend. >> that is maggie oliver. yes. incredible best of british woman who was on your show earlier,

patrick, uh, who was a big whistleblower over the grooming gangs and is still fighting for girls today who are being used and by such grooming and abused by such grooming gangs. good for her. i'm so, gangs. um good for her. i'm so, so proud of her. >> today's britain is >> today's greatest britain is maggie oliver. so well done, maggie. now we've got about a minute left. who's a union jack? oscar who lied oscar harry and meghan who lied to they said they had to us when they said they had the permission call the queen's permission to call their lilibet robert their baby lilibet in robert hardman's new book, the hardman's new book, charles the third court, he third new king, new court, he says a member of the royal household she household said that she had never queen angry never seen the queen as angry as when that . when she was told that. >> so shame on the pair of them. >> so shame on the pair of them. >> shame. mine is the supporters of terrorists . of the houthi terrorists. >> at saturday's protest . how >> at saturday's protest. how amazing that the people who so righteously condemned israel for the loss life in gaza are now the loss of life in gaza are now backing terrorists who have killed more than 8000 muslims themselves . themselves in yemen. >> yeah, it doesn't make >> yeah, yeah, it doesn't make any i to any sense. belinda i have to say gary lineker. any sense. belinda i have to say garnuffaker. any sense. belinda i have to say garnuff said. any sense. belinda i have to say garnuff said . i have >> nuff said. i don't have to say anything it's just say anything else. it's just such a wally. lineker. such a wally. gary lineker. >> all okay. those are >> all right. okay. those are the supported the the people who supported the houthi terrorists . right? so houthi terrorists. right? so there go. benjamin wins this there we go. benjamin wins this particular round. can i just say

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gb news us gb news the top story tonight a new report into the rochdale grooming scandal has found girls were left at the mercy of gangs due to failings by senior police and council leaders. >> the report highlights years of widespread organised sexual

abuse of hundreds of children. it also found that a reluctance among victims to make formal complaints was often used as an excuse to avoid investigation . excuse to avoid investigation. the report identifies 96 men still deemed a potential risk to children, but this is only a proportion of the numbers involved . former police involved. former police detective constable maggie oliver told gb news today that she's pleased to see the report , she's pleased to see the report, but it is too little, too late. >> it is the truth, but it's not a truth that was new to me. what makes me feel so angry three is that it's taken 12 years to get it formally documented . and this it formally documented. and this isn't just a report, this is about live destroyed. this is about live destroyed. this is about children who have been criminalised , children who have criminalised, children who have been blamed , abusers who have been blamed, abusers who have been blamed, abusers who have been allowed to continue to abuse and go, um , unchecked . abuse and go, um, unchecked. >> maggie oliver, meanwhile ,

>> maggie oliver, meanwhile, rishi sunak is facing