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is the >> conservative party is the best party moving forward to get us out of this mess, so it's very kind of richard . very kind of richard. >> well, tice tells lee why he should roll the dice live at ten or so tonight . oh yes. remember or so tonight. oh yes. remember this footballing legend, the family of world cup winner nobby stiles are suing the fa . family of world cup winner nobby stiles are suing the fa. his son john joins me to explain why and after far left labour mp zarah sultana accused the pm of islamophobia. just for saying this, perhaps the honourable lady would would do well to call on hamas and the houthis to de—escalate the situation . de—escalate the situation. what's wrong with that .7 does what's wrong with that? does starmer need to come down hard on the extreme wings of his party and our labour, now at the mercy of the muslim vote? my panelis mercy of the muslim vote? my panel is ready and raring to go and here they are. tonight i'm joined by suzanne evans, ranil jayawardena and rebecca reid. are you ready? britain? here we
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go . go. we have got so much going on tonight. okay rishi has now lost his red wall. rottweiler in lee anderson. will he live to regret that? how on earth are these rwanda rebels actually going to vote tomorrow? do we get stuck into that with new conservative rebel miriam cates? right after the news with polly . patrick the news with polly. patrick >> thank you, and good evening to you. well as you've been hearing, parliamentary amendments tabled to strengthen the government's rwanda bill were defeated in the house were both defeated in the house of commons tonight. our political editor, christopher hope, . a difficult hope, explains. a difficult night then for the pm. >> rishi sunak and his rwanda plan with 60 tory mps, two independents and eight dup mps voting for amendments to try and strengthen his plan, they
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weren't impressed by the remarks from the prime minister to gb news on monday, making clear he would overrule european judges which try and frustrate the will of the uk government in sending illegally arrived migrants who arrive here by boat back to rwanda . there has been some rwanda. there has been some casualties too. we've seen the resignations of both lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith, two deputy chairman of the tory party and later tonight , the resignation later tonight, the resignation of jane stevenson, a parliamentary private secretary to kemi badenoch. so food for thought overnight for government whips and for mr sunak and his team as we go into a key day tomorrow, when more amendments are voted on. but crucially , if are voted on. but crucially, if the bill remains unamended , the bill remains unamended, there will be a third reading tomorrow night and that vote could be lost unless whips and the pm maybe himself personally , the pm maybe himself personally, can persuade some of those 60 or so tory mps not to vote the bill down on wednesday night. well lee anderson spoke to gb news
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tonight and said the rwanda bill could still work. >> won't be in a position to vote for something which i don't believe in. >> look, you know, at the end of the day, small boats are coming. they'll keep coming. i want to see a situation where anybody who arrives illegally in this country has no right at all to claim asylum, no right to claim an appeal, and more importantly , an appeal, and more importantly, no right to go missing and disappear into the country. and i think this bill could work, but it needs strengthening. that's why i backed the amendments. >> well, more on that in patrick's programme tonight. but in today in the post in other news, today in the post office scandal, more specific , a office scandal, more specific, a fujitsu boss today accused the post office officials of knowing about the bugs and errors in the honzon about the bugs and errors in the horizon it system . the business horizon it system. the business and trade committee heard from key figures involved in the post office scandal, including fujitsu executive paul patterson, who apologised and admitted his company had a moral obugafion admitted his company had a moral obligation to contribute towards compensating victims . the
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compensating victims. the wrongly accused former postmaster and leader of the subpostmaster alliance, alan bates, blamed red tape for delays to compensation payments and the coldest january night in 14 years could hit the uk . 14 years could hit the uk. tonight. temperatures in scotland could reach as low as —15. more than 100 schools were closed in scotland today, as the met office issued yellow warnings for snow and ice, including for northern england and parts of wales, that remains in place until midnight. and parts of wales, that remains in place until midnight . the met in place until midnight. the met office has said a cold plunge of arctic air has moved south across the whole country over the last few days, making it 5 to 6 degrees lower than usual for this time of year. very very cold indeed on tv, online, dab+ radio and the tunein app. this is gb news, britain's news channel. >> it's been a seismic and sensational day in politics. it all started though, on this show
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last night when tory deputy chairman lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith told me that they'd vote for amendments to the rwanda plan and they didn't care if they got sacked for it. we're not bothered about roles. >> we just want to make this work. and that's what this is all about. patrick and this talk about, know, sacked about, you know, being sacked and resignation all this, and resignation and all this, the important thing for me the most important thing for me is role as a deputy chair. >> the most important thing for me is making sure this legislation works. >> today, >> well, then today, the government nobody government whip said that nobody on payroll could vote on the payroll could vote against government get against the government and get away with it. then lee anderson and clarke—smith and brendan clarke—smith resigned saying they resigned, saying that they supported sunak but that supported rishi sunak but that the bill wasn't strong the rwanda bill wasn't strong enough i does mean enough. which i think does mean that don't support that you don't really support him but we go. him that much. but there we go. and is a couple of hours and here is a couple of hours ago on gb news >> can't be in a position to vote for something which i don't believe look, you know, at believe in. look, you know, at the the day, small boats the end of the day, small boats are coming. they'll keep coming. i to see a situation where i want to see a situation where anybody who arrives illegally in this country no right at all this country has no right at all to claim asylum, no right to
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claim an appeal and more importantly, no right to go missing and disappear into the country. and i think this bill could work, but it needs strengthening up. and that's why i the amendments. strengthening up. and that's why i yeah.the amendments. strengthening up. and that's why i yeah. thennendments. strengthening up. and that's why i yeah. then there nents. strengthening up. and that's why i yeah. then there wass. strengthening up. and that's why i yeah. then there was a vote >> yeah. then there was a vote that sought to ensure international law couldn't stop people being sent to rwanda. that lost . then there was that vote lost. then there was a vote to decide whether or not rwanda is classed as a safe country, that one stevie wonder can see that this is a problem. okay we class rwanda is safe. the international courts say it isn't. and we back to square isn't. and we are back to square one. robert jenrick, the former immigration minister, was on this show last night. he said this show last night. he said this i'm certainly going this well, i'm certainly going to the amendments that to support the amendments that are and those of bill cash. and there's now 60 >> and there's now 60 conservative back them. conservative mps back them. i hope the government will move and produce amendments that create a bill that will actually work. >> if they won't, then i've been clear that i'm not going to support the bill, and i'll actively consider voting against it, because all that matters is what works. and i'm not going to
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support a bill that doesn't work. >> today's amendment, which was designed to stop individual asylum seekers constantly appealing their removal to rwanda, was voted down. kemi badenoch, widely tipped to be the next tory leader, saw her pps jane stevenson resign. but it's tomorrow a crucial vote that will dictate rishi sunak's future and really, among of you, this country's future when it comes to illegal immigration and here to reveal what's actually going on with the rwanda rebels is miriam cates, a very prominent member of the so—called five families? uh, miriam, thank you very, very much. and look , first things much. and look, first things first, how are you going to vote tomorrow? then well , there are tomorrow? then well, there are more amendments to come tomorrow , so i will be voting again in favour of the amendments in the name of robert jenrick. >> so those are further amendments strengthen up this amendments to strengthen up this rwanda um but in terms of rwanda bill. um but in terms of third reading, which probably rwanda bill. um but in terms of thirccome ng, which probably rwanda bill. um but in terms of thirccome at. which probably rwanda bill. um but in terms of thirccome at theich probably rwanda bill. um but in terms of thirccome at the endirobably rwanda bill. um but in terms of thirccome at the end of)ably will come at the end of tomorrow, but that's not guaranteed. you know, i feel guaranteed. um, you know, i feel
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like can't support the bill like i can't support the bill unamended because i don't think it will work. what lee it will work. exactly what lee said earlier. and you've just played a of robert. um, but played a clip of robert. um, but 24 hours is a long time in politics. we've got another day of to more of debates to come. more amendments, and i'm very much hoping government hoping that the government does come some accommodation come to some accommodation around our amendments, or perhaps to produce their own, because at the end of the day, we are on the same page. we want the to work. the reason the bill to work. the reason that build to work is that we want to build to work is because we want an effective deterrent to stop people trafficking migrants the trafficking migrants across the world. to get world. we're only going to get that deterrent it's not tied that deterrent if it's not tied up in the courts. that's what that deterrent if it's not tied up in amendments|at's what that deterrent if it's not tied up in amendments are what that deterrent if it's not tied up in amendments are alliat that deterrent if it's not tied up in amendments are all about. these amendments are all about. >> but if these >> i get it right. but if these amendments voted down, amendments are being voted down, which they are right, you which so far they are right, you obviously don't think this version rwanda bill is version of the rwanda bill is good you're obviously good enough. you're obviously don't think you can win the next election if you don't sort out illegal as illegal immigration, which as it stands, don't this stands, you don't think this bill you have to vote bill will do. you have to vote against it tomorrow and not abstain, you? if abstain, surely, don't you? if none amendments go none of these amendments go through it? through to it? >> as i said, i am >> well, as i said, i am prepared to vote against. i've
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said that consistently throughout the day. serve a number but way, number of others, but in a way, at the moment it is just speculation because we've got 70 mps now voted for the cash mps now have voted for the cash amendment. that's a big number of appease. we have negotiated with the government in good faith. we've put forward amendments do have amendments that do have respectable legal arguments. so i very much hope that having i very much hope now that having seen the strength those seen the strength of those numbers, prime minister will numbers, the prime minister will very seriously. very much take this seriously. so new day . we're so tomorrow is a new day. we're very much hoping for those concessions, see what concessions, and we'll see what the bill looks like at the end of the day. look rishi sunak could avoided all of this could have avoided all of this if he'd just listened to you. >> by the way, the things >> and by the way, the things that putting across, i am that you're putting across, i am convinced that the vast majority of public want as of the british public want as well. you actually well. right? do you actually have confidence in sunak? have confidence in rishi sunak? >> i have full confidence that he wants to stop the he absolutely wants to stop the boats. he could not have boats. i mean, he could not have said that more times. he stood in front of a number podiums in front of a number of podiums that say stop the boats. we agree and reason agree with that. and the reason is because our constituents are very concerned about the number of here illegally. of people coming here illegally. the that
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the security threat that that that threat of crime , that poses, the threat of crime, all those things which are all those other things which are absolutely concerns absolutely real concerns for ordinary people . ordinary people. >> and he understands that. but we do have this split, not just in the party, but in parliament, uh, about whether or not international law should take precedent over our own uk parliament, sovereign law and essentially , that's what's at essentially, that's what's at the root of this. and anybody the root of this. and if anybody listened in listened to the debate in parliament today, it was five hours but essentially hours long. but essentially there are two positions. there is the is a position that says the interpretation international interpretation of international conventions by conventions, by a range of judges, is more important, or what the british people is more important, people want is more important, and that is your division . and and that is your division. and sadly, party is split on sadly, our party is split on that. and so the prime minister is in a very difficult position. okay >> all right. look, miriam, thank you very much. we're going to leave it there and hopefully maybe we can chat again tomorrow or however we'll see. we'll see how it goes. good luck with everything. like everything. and you know, like you hours is a long you said, 24 hours is a long time in politics. miriam cates. sir. let's get the sir. um, look, let's get the thoughts now. we've thoughts of my panel. now. we've
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got commentator got political commentator suzanne evans. former suzanne evans. we've got former environment ronald environment secretary ronald giles, author and giles, wardner mp and author and journalist rebecca reid, and giles, wardner mp and author and journironald,»ecca reid, and giles, wardner mp and author and journironald, icca reid, and giles, wardner mp and author and journironald, i willeeid, and giles, wardner mp and author and journironald, i will startand giles, wardner mp and author and journironald, i will start with look, ronald, i will start with you now, um, how did you you on this now, um, how did you vote what on for you vote today? what went on for you today? didn't on these amendments. >> i wasn't going to oppose , uh, >> i wasn't going to oppose, uh, my who are trying to do my friends who are trying to do things that think are things that they think are helpful the bill. um, and helpful to the bill. um, and certainly i have sympathy with some that some of the arguments that they make. think trying to make. i think they're trying to do thing, potentially, do the right thing, potentially, but wrong that's but in the wrong way. and that's just view on it. and uh, you just my view on it. and uh, you know, i the, the big know, i think the, the big difference between lot of difference between a lot of people try to compare this to the brexit wars, under the brexit wars, uh, under theresa difference theresa may. the big difference between then and now is this is an iterative process. that's certainly moves it in the right direction, even if people direction, even if some people would to go further. would like it to go further. whereas theresa may's deal was this fundamental this big, the big fundamental thing , is unless thing right, is that unless rishi sunak is prepared to ignore the legal advice from within his government over strasbourg judges, then this isn't going to work. you're spot on.andi
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isn't going to work. you're spot on. and i think that he's not prepared to do that. >> and he won't do it. >> and he won't do it. >> i think that's what's really interesting about tomorrow's amendments. say you heard miriam there. just talk about this. there's called rule there's something called rule 39, where the judges 39, which is where the judges can, uh, at last minute, 39, which is where the judges can, a], at last minute, 39, which is where the judges can, a flight last minute, 39, which is where the judges can, a flight from .t minute, 39, which is where the judges can, a flight from takingte, 39, which is where the judges can, a flight from taking off. stop a flight from taking off. and hearing the and i'm hearing that the government going to very government is going to be very clear that particular set of clear on that particular set of amendments changing the civil service code, potentially really toughening up the rules that make it possible for the government to ignore these foreign judges. so i think a lot of us are going to be looking very carefully at that. but and then, course, the third then, of course, the third reading, is the big vote tomorrow. >> yeah. okay. and very last thing, how are you going to vote tomorrow then. >> view is i'll support >> so my view is i'll support this because this is at this because i think this is at least a step in the right direction to get the flights taking rwanda. okay direction to get the flights tak all rwanda. okay direction to get the flights tak all right, rwanda. okay direction to get the flights tak all right, rebecca, okay direction to get the flights tak all right, rebecca, i'lly direction to get the flights tak all right, rebecca, i'll come >> all right, rebecca, i'll come to you this now. i mean, to you on this now. i mean, we've seen today, lee anderson. go. brendan clarke—smith the go. brendan clarke—smith go the right of the tory party. right wing of the tory party. you mark francois you know, mark francois lee, only the five only the leader of the five families them families marched them up the hill last time then back hill last time and then back down hill. it is all
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down the hill. it is all starting look little bit starting to look a little bit like all mouth and no trousers from of the tory from the right wing of the tory party, you think? yeah. party, do you think? yeah. >> i mean, firstly, i'd like to say how nice to see say how nice it is to see a woman who says that women should be at home in, out, at work, at 9:10 on weeknight. who has 9:10 on a weeknight. who has school age children at home? interesting there. interesting value system there. um, to your um, but going back to your actual i feel like if actual question, i feel like if i way involved in the i was in any way involved in the tory party, i would be so cross and i would to get and i would just want to get everybody in a room and bang all their heads together, because they're nicely. they're just not playing nicely. there teamwork here. there is no teamwork here. there's no shared vision. and i just, they want just, i it's like they want to lose the election without lose the election and without wanting sound a bit wanting to sound a bit conspiracy it does seem conspiracy theory, it does seem like members on right like some members on the right of party almost want things of the party almost want things to possible, so to end as badly as possible, so that of raised to the that it sort of raised to the ground, and have to start ground, and they have to start again from the beginning, having lost the election. >> your views >> okay, suzanne, your views on what which is, what we've seen today, which is, as know, quite a seismic as you know, quite a seismic shift, really. anderson shift, really. lee anderson brendan going these brendan clarke—smith going these amendments, the bill cash amendment, jenrick amendment, the robert jenrick amendment, losing, uh, today. and end up in a
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and we're going to end up in a situation, we not tomorrow situation, are we not tomorrow where a load mps being where a load of mps are being asked on the same rwanda asked to vote on the same rwanda bill, essentially, that rishi sunak wants to put forward before it just it just doesn't make sense. make it makes sense. >> make sense. and >> it doesn't make sense. and i think people will be watching this and thinking, what this at home and thinking, what the on the one the heck is going on? on the one hand, you've got like, you've got lee anderson, you've got jane got jane stevenson, you've got brendan resigning brendan clarke—smith resigning. but they're all saying they're backing the same as backing their leader the same as miriam cates. just yes, miriam cates. just then. yes, absolutely. i'm voting against this. of course, i backed this. but of course, i backed rishi and there's this rishi sunak and there's this complete disconnect between, well, you back your leader or well, do you back your leader or don't you? how much gumption have you actually stand have you actually got to stand up or are up for your principles? or are you just going to just. oh, keep in the fold and just just not cause and this has cause any waves? and this has been for so long now, been going on for so long now, this rwanda and we're this rwanda issue. and we're getting nowhere. getting absolutely nowhere. and i've sympathy what i've got some sympathy with what rebecca know, rebecca says here. you know, it's so long it almost it's going on so long it almost feels like some kind of conspiracy keep it conspiracy to just keep it going, it going, going, keep it going, not do anything, not do anything and then the boats. a then make stop the boats. a great election great big election issue. whereas ronald said, whereas as ronald has said, these amendments you're now
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these amendments that you're now being vote on tomorrow being asked to vote on tomorrow suddenly out of thin air suddenly come out of thin air from nowhere. could have from nowhere. this could have been months ago. it been done months ago. it does feel to though it's feel to me as though it's a cynical attempt. >> if it if it loses >> okay, if it if it loses tomorrow, if they're under bill gets voted down tomorrow, do you have to a snap election rental? >> i mean, there's a distinct possibility of that. i think the i think i think, you know, brenda from bristol will be on, uh, another one. >> i have a social life. >> but i have a social life. >> but i have a social life. >> right. like you know, >> right. i like you know, i think there a distinct think there is a distinct possibility of that. you know, the is such an important the this is such an important issue as issue for rishi sunak as everyone's actually said, including um, you including miriam today. um, you know, such an important know, it's such an important issue for him. and so he may well feel that the only thing to do at that point is go to the country. but i do think the government can get this through tomorrow, i think tomorrow, because i think that even who great even folks who have great sympathy amendments, sympathy with the amendments, even the even folks who voted for the amendments, will accept, on balance , and i hope they will. balance, and i hope they will. that um, something is better than nothing in this. and to really try and continue to push
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the lefty lawyers and the judges to get the biggest, the biggest loser in all of this. >> and is the british public, isn't it? because you end up with a situation where know, with a situation where we know, or that this or the theory is that this rwanda won't work and it rwanda bill won't work and it won't illegal won't sort out illegal immigration, and it won't actually small actually sort out the small boats crossing. actually sort out the small boathat's sing. actually sort out the small boathat's the. actually sort out the small boathat's the theory. that's the theory. >> it's not really a theory. >> it's not really a theory. >> you know. >> you know. >> it's not, you know, i sort of talk to robert jenrick yesterday, to yesterday, and i've spoken to quite a people behind the quite a few people behind the scenes just don't think scenes and they just don't think rishi sunak has got the bottle to deal the european to deal with the european court, whether not. and whether it will or not. and i hate defending rishi sunak, but whether whether will or whether whether this will or not, what definitely not, you know what definitely won't? wasting rest won't? it's wasting the rest of until summer having an election and going then and then it's going then parliaments for summer and then it's going then parlthen1ts for summer and then it's going then parlthen it's. for summer and then it's going then parlthen it's. and for summer and then it's going then parlthen it's. and foit's mmer and then it's. and then it's christmas again, which it's ridiculous. >> but it's votes come across. >> but it's votes come across. >> it's threat isn't of >> it's the threat isn't it, of we either this version of we either have this version of the plan or we have the rwanda plan or we have a labour government, which is nothing. isn't it? and that's why don't know. why we don't know. >> there >> it would be nothing. there are labour party. are plenty of labour party. >> are loads of labour >> there are loads of labour voters who are very hard line. >> party in
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>> the labour party in parliament very clear. parliament are very clear. >> an open border, >> they want an open border, they the but you know they want the red. but you know what, red wall, you know what, the red wall, you know what, the red wall, you know what sums it up for me about the weakness in this country now about wanting to actually about not wanting to actually stand to european stand up to our european friends. stand up to our european frie the could this crisis >> the eu could stop this crisis tomorrow. they? what have we >> why would they? what have we ever done for them? >> oh, come off it. what >> so, oh, come off it. what have ever done for them? we have we ever done for them? we pumped of money into the pumped a load of money into the european union. >> we're idiots. we keep throwing no, no. throwing money at them. no, no. >> sorry. ridiculous. >> i'm sorry. it's ridiculous. the stop the small the eu could stop the small boats tomorrow they. the eu could stop the small boaif tomorrow they. the eu could stop the small boaif they tomorrow they. the eu could stop the small boaif they made rrow they. the eu could stop the small boaif they made moneythey. the eu could stop the small boaif they made money for(. >> if they made money for nothing, if they made sure that the motors, small the motors, the small boat motors and the actual small boats themselves were confiscated, we know that every single during european single point during the european union, this. >> ei- e tower >> why aren't we going to war with over this? the boat with the eu over this? the boat thing know, thing literally. but you know, the doesn't really the boat thing doesn't really work change this, work because you change this, this of boat can't this specific type of boat can't be sold. >> we'll just get a new boat that why earth that doesn't work. why on earth would the eu want to help us? what? they oh, what? why would they like? oh, come go. so you >> okay, so there you go. so you admit that the european union are of absolute. are a bunch of absolute. they hate absolute hate us, a bunch of absolute a—holes. and right to a—holes. and we were right to leave, i think. >> i don't agree.
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>> no, no, i don't agree. i there you go. >> so would they want. >> well, so why would they want. so you think the european union wouldn't just want to do the right for decency? right thing for common decency? no think they like. >> oh i don't think they like. oh vote in brexit. oh i didn't vote in brexit. i don't about brexit. don't care about brexit. yeah. um no, i very um but yeah. no, i feel very strongly would strongly that. why would they like us. have been fairly like us. we have been fairly unfriendly would like us. we have been fairly unfri help would they help us? >> they help us? contributing. >> throwing >> we just keep throwing money at them for nothing. >> idiots. they're >> we're idiots. they're laughing because laughing at us because we deserve still to come. >> wore keir >> still to come. i wore keir starmer of renegade >> still to come. i wore keir starrlike of renegade >> still to come. i wore keir starrlike zarah of renegade >> still to come. i wore keir starrlike zarah sultanarenegade >> still to come. i wore keir starrlike zarah sultana ahead de mps like zarah sultana ahead of this election. this year's general election. how vulnerable is the labour party to independent muslim candidates standing at the next election? up next, the prime minister has lost his red wall rottweiler and it could have grave consequences. to grave consequences. i want to know sunak wrong know was rishi sunak wrong to force resignation force lee anderson's resignation 7 force lee anderson's resignation ? tory rebel dame andrea jenkyns goes with party goes head to head with party grandee edwina currie. this is patrick christys now only patrick christys now we are only on gb
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. >> this is patrick christys tonight. it's only on gb news and it is time now for tonight's head to head on a dramatic night in westminster. the look, it's chaos in parliament again this evening as tory deputy chair lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith both sensationally resign after backing the rebel amendments to the rwanda bill. it's surely not a good look for rishi sunak as a general election looms large, and his choice to let loyal mps walk while he continues cosying up to chief tory wet of yesteryear. david cameron . we just have david cameron. we just have a look at that picture. it's caption competition time. everybody okay, look at that picture. the posh boys are back
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in power, aren't they? the posh southerners are. meanwhile, you've got your working class red rottweilers lee red wall rottweilers like lee anderson. ousted . anderson. they're being ousted. okay. are people now feeling betrayed? is he just signed off completely on the red wall tonight? i am asking, was rishi sunak wrong to force lee anderson's resignation? let me know your thoughts. email me gb views at gb news. com tweet me out gb news. why are you there ? out gb news. why are you there? go and vote in our poll. i'll bnng go and vote in our poll. i'll bring few bring you those results in a few short but first, going short minutes, but first, going hammer and tongs this. now short minutes, but first, going hanformer1d tongs this. now short minutes, but first, going hanformer education this. now short minutes, but first, going hanformer education minister»w it's former education minister dame andrea jenkins and tory grandee former minister grandee and former minister edwina . dame andrea, i'll edwina currie. dame andrea, i'll start with you . was rishi sunak start with you. was rishi sunak wrong force lee anderson and wrong to force lee anderson and brendon's resignation ? brendon's resignation? >> i wouldn't say it was wrong. um, through , um, i mean, i used um, through, um, i mean, i used to be with and i've been a minister and even when you're a deputy chairman of the party, you adhere to the ministerial code. and it's well known that if . you sign a government if. you sign a government amendment or vote against a government, you need to resign. now on the other hand, i mean, i
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was the first one to resign under may, a under theresa may, um, with a appalling brexit deals and, um, and so it's right that you resign, but i think that i take my hat off to brendan and lee. you know, they're both great guys and they've resigned on conviction. so i think they've done the right thing. but the real problem for me, patrick, is the fact that it's been watered down so much. the rwanda bill, so much so that, you know, robert jenrick, the immigration minister, had to resign. he put the amendments in himself, which which you know, i, i was one of the signatures on the amendments andifs the signatures on the amendments and it's because he's watered it down. so it's had this knock on effect where had effect where they've had to resign . resign. >> okay. all right. edwina do you do you think they were right to resign and to vote for these amendments? then do you amendments? then what do you think? well um, let me just say i love you calling me a grandee, but i've never been anywhere near the honours list. >> and unlike the great dame , >> and unlike the great dame, uh, that i'm sharing tonight with. so i feel deeply honoured .
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with. so i feel deeply honoured. and, um, i think this is more a matter of exasperation than anything else i read lee anderson's letter. i thought it was a very, very good letter, a very measured , very supportive very measured, very supportive of the prime minister's efforts and really just differing very slightly towards the end about whether the bill is going to be strong enough or not. and actually, nobody knows it goes through and it's actually tested and it will be tested. i have no doubt about that. whether it's going to be effective deterrent personally , i don't think so. personally, i don't think so. and, um , do i think we're and, um, do i think we're actually going to get anyone going rwanda before going to rwanda before the general ? not a chance . general election? not a chance. but i don't honestly think this is a huge disaster for the prime minister. he ended up with big majorities tonight, and i think he'll get the bill through on third reading in the commons tomorrow . what will in tomorrow. what will happen in the lords is a the house of lords is a different question entirely . different question entirely. >> oh, great. i mean, i think, um, patrick, actually that, um , um, patrick, actually that, um, i mean, edwina, you know, i
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respect you as a politician, but you you clearly see history repeating itself here. i mean, if we look back when you was in from the 92 to 97 parliament, you know , disaster was coming you know, disaster was coming down , but due to down the track, but due to misguided loyalty to john major, you know , with respect, people you know, with respect, people like yourself and other mps showing the time , misguided showing the time, misguided loyalty, they could have got rid of john major in 95. and look, you lost your seat. many other conservatives lost the seat in 97. and i feel we're heading towards that at the moment . and towards that at the moment. and so i think that it's right that we see these resignations . and i we see these resignations. and i agree with you. you know , agree with you. you know, flights are not going to go to off rwanda with this appalling policy . we're letting down policy. we're letting down the british and i'd i'd like british public and i'd i'd like to see more resignations and a new leader. um, one who's, you know, got the strength and the gumption this through . gumption to see this through. um, and, you know, actually do what suella wanted. do what? um also what robert jenrick wanted . also what robert jenrick wanted. and then deliver for the people, because with this policy, we are
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not delivering for british public. >> edwina w- public. >> edwina , what what >> so. so, edwina, what what andrew is saying you andrew is saying there is, you know, change andrew is saying there is, you kn leader change andrew is saying there is, you kn leader . change andrew is saying there is, you kn leader . with change andrew is saying there is, you kn leader . with respect change andrew is saying there is, you kn leader . with respect to hange of leader. with respect to edwina, what you have said edwina, what you have just said is which is what everyone can see, which is what everyone can see, which is for all of the talk , this is for all of the talk, this this bill probably isn't going to work. you're probably not going to be deterrent. we're going to be a deterrent. we're probably not to end up probably not going to end up with rwanda probably not going to end up with i rwanda probably not going to end up with i do rwanda probably not going to end up with i do you rwanda probably not going to end up with i do you notnda probably not going to end up with i do you not agree anyway. i mean, do you not agree with point? what's with what's the point? what's the all this the point of all of this now, unless just up and unless you just rip it up and start it's no, start again? i mean, it's no, you it, you know, start again? i mean, it's no, you back it, you know, start again? i mean, it's no, you back rishi you know, start again? i mean, it's no, you back rishi sunakiow, start again? i mean, it's no, you back rishi sunak s0/, start again? i mean, it's no, you back rishi sunak so that we'll back rishi sunak so that we'll back rishi sunak so that we don't snap election. we don't get a snap election. a labour government, nothing. we've fanfare and we've got all this fanfare and resignation, everything for absolutely . oh, well , if absolutely nothing. oh, well, if we weren't doing the rwanda bill, i agree. >> i think we could concentrate on other issues that are very significant indeed to the welfare and the prosperity of the british people. would the british people. that would be preference. it's one of be my preference. it's one of the reasons i think rwanda the reasons why i think rwanda is red herring. but is an absolute red herring. but let me let just remind andrew let me let me just remind andrew with the greatest possible respect , that, um, you put in respect, that, um, you put in for and you wanted a change of leader. uh, let me see. theresa may. so, um, you know , then we
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may. so, um, you know, then we got, um, boris and, uh, then we got, um, boris and, uh, then we got , um, liz got, um, boris and, uh, then we got, um, liz truss and, uh, then we got, uh, rishi sunak. got, um, liz truss and, uh, then we got, uh, rishi sunak . do you we got, uh, rishi sunak. do you know what a leader of a party and particularly of a government is only as good as the people behind him who support him or her. and if he's got a lot of flaky people behind him, then his position is bound to be weakened . so i would say, weakened. so i would say, andrea, stick with what you've got, because i tell you what could be actually much worse. can i have a change? >> did you actually say that? jeremy rac look like chaos? >> is what you're. >> that is what you're. >> that is what you're. >> say that during boris's >> you say that during boris's time or is time and liz truss's time? or is it because we've got a wet in charge now? did you say that joe and liz truss and boris time? because i thought we should have backed them . they were backed backed them. they were backed by the members and boris as well. >> andrea finished them. >> andrea finished them. >> understand her >> don't understand her government you have to government works and you have to back the government. >> a simple question . did you >> a simple question. did you say same thing that we say the same thing that we should behind boris or should have got behind boris or liz ? boris democratically
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liz? boris was democratically elected . did you say the same elected. did you say the same thing? oh yes. >> uh, particularly boris. my >> uh, particularly on boris. my goodness. >> uh, particularly on boris. my goodness . over and over >> uh, particularly on boris. my goodness. over and over and >> uh, particularly on boris. my goodness . over and over and over goodness. over and over and over again. if have a prime again. if we have a prime minister and we have prime ministers with many different and very good qualities, it almost immediately demanding that they got rid of is really with greatest possible respect . with greatest possible respect. >> look at the polling. it's the worst we've had. it is not getting through. you know, we will let the socialists in if we don't get a new leader . edwina. don't get a new leader. edwina. it's last chance. saloon now get a strong leader, a true conservative leader who will stand up to the european court of human rights, who will deliver for the british public. and let's get this show on the road. it's at road. because it's stalled at the . the moment. >> well, with due respect , >> well, with all due respect, the polls are suggesting that . the polls are suggesting that. but many things are already decided in the voters minds and many things are not. but having another leadership contest is the last thing anyone , any of us the last thing anyone, any of us need. you and i should be
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actually singing from the same page. actually singing from the same page . andrea, we should be page. andrea, we should be saying, look, let's back the prime minister. let's get the good stuff done, and then we can good stuff done, and then we can go to the electorate and saying, we've achieve all go to the electorate and saying, we'viwe achieve all go to the electorate and saying, we'viwe someichieve all go to the electorate and saying, we'viwe someichiev�*time. this, we need some more time. let's the time. let's have the time. >> previous to prime ministers or andrea. >> andrea, who look? >> andrea, who would you look? who would you have? talk. we who would you have? we talk. we talk we about talk about we talk about a proper conservative all of proper conservative in all of this . who is it, though? andrea? this. who is it, though? andrea? come on. i mean, for it'd come on. i mean, for me, it'd have to someone the right. >> so, you know , i mean, i think >> so, you know, i mean, i think the right to unite behind the right need to unite behind one candidate that is going to be problem. otherwise we're be the problem. otherwise we're going to get two left wingers on the for members. so, i the ballot for members. so, i mean, i've either, you know, either the likes of pretty suella or jacob, one of them, i will be happy with. and but they have need to back all of you all the people on the right. >> you're all like ferrets in a sack. that's what happens when people on the fringes, uh, are are i do to be fair, edwina, i do put it to you, right. >> that at the moment, the reason why rishi sunak is in a
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world of is because he's world of trouble is because he's not to not actually listening to what the british the vast majority of the british pubuc the vast majority of the british public of ten public want. nine out of ten constituencies lower net constituencies want lower net migration over hinckley. people want people deported if they enter this country illegally , enter this country illegally, and rishi sunak is too keen on listening to people like damian green instead of actually doing what it takes. and put it what it takes. and i do put it to actually, i'll to you, edwina, actually, i'll just and say this rishi just come out and say this rishi sunak view far too sunak for my view is far too concerned what is legacy concerned about what is legacy on the dinner circuit is going to be. he's got his legacy now . to be. he's got his legacy now. it's smoking people it's banning smoking for people under a certain and under a certain age forever, and it's more a—levels. so it's education and it's health. that's great actually , what this that's great actually, what this country needs is a bloke who's going and it out, going to man up and sort it out, and got the minerals, and he's not got the minerals, does and he's not got the minerals, doewell, personally , i think >> well, personally, i think that, um, stopping people smoking and having better illegal immigration is more of a problem than weenee, though, isn't it? >> but to the british, you said legal immigration as well . legal immigration as well. >> net immigration and that's what the government has allowed to get out of control and needs to get out of control and needs to be brought back in control .
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to be brought back in control. and if it means that some of these cod universities have to close they're no longer close because they're no longer getting lots of people in from from or china or wherever, from india or china or wherever, that's fine, because they're not actually serving students in this country. that's more important . a year ago, the prime important. a year ago, the prime minister made five pledges. the only one that i went what was is about stopping the boats with me, thinking , actually, if me, thinking, actually, if immigration is the issue, you could do it. >> could do it. could do >> he could do it. he could do it. he's not prepared to do european right the bat. european right off the bat. >> we the and we'll do >> we stop the stop and we'll do it right. it legally. all right. >> we we are, we are >> we are. we are, we are running over. we are running oven running over. we are running over. which is mostly my fault because carried because i got carried away there. you very there. but thank you very, very much, thoroughly much, both of you. i thoroughly enjoyed that. arade dam andrea jenkins there, former conservative well, conservative minister as well, edwina currie, thank you very, very you agree very much. who do you agree with was force was rishi sunak wrong to force red wall mps lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith resign ? brendan clarke—smith resign? nation's says . this is nation's mic on x says. this is the final nail in the coffin for cena's government. as far as i'm concerned. i don't blame liam brennan for a second. cranford says. awful leadership from sunak . our sunak grief. if our prime minister listen to
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minister can't even listen to his mps, what hope do we his own mps, what hope do we have of him listening to the british ? well, richard british people? well, richard says didn't force them. it says sunak didn't force them. it was a blatant career move . they was a blatant career move. they know seat status is know their safe seat status is gone and if they had any integrity, they'd have left ages ago. is in 77% of ago. your verdict is in 77% of you agree that sunak was wrong to force the resignations of lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith, 23% of you say that he wasn't. yeah. all of this could have been avoided if he'd just adopted the kind of amendments that people were putting forward. anyway, putting forward. but anyway, coming up, i'm joined exclusively by the son of england world winner nobby exclusively by the son of englan heiorld winner nobby exclusively by the son of englan he is ld winner nobby exclusively by the son of englan he is leadingvinner nobby exclusively by the son of englan he is leading ainer nobby exclusively by the son of englan he is leading a lawsuit)by stiles. he is leading a lawsuit against the fa brain against the fa over brain injuries suffered injuries allegedly suffered dunng injuries allegedly suffered during his career. but during his dad's career. but next, this is a story that i don't has got anything don't think has got anything like the like enough attention in the british media. far left british media. after far left labour mp zarah sultana accused the prime minister ridiculously of islamophobia for saying this . of islamophobia for saying this. >> perhaps the honourable lady would would do well to call on hamas and the houthis to de—escalate the situation . de—escalate the situation. right? so does starmer need to come down hard on the extreme
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wings of his party? >> but this is the big story for me. how vulnerable are the labour party to independent muslim candidates standing against their mps at the next election ? i put it out there election? i put it out there that i think he's very , very that i think he's very, very vulnerable to it and it could be the kind of reform uk of the labour party. actually, he might take down zarah sultana. that's .
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>> this is patrick christys tonight. it's only on gb news now . some labour tonight. it's only on gb news now. some labour mps are back at it, weaponising islamophobia is a way of trying to silence and intimidate their critics. we've seen this time and time again, especially with topics like we discussed yesterday , the discussed yesterday, the grooming gang issue. people cry , grooming gang issue. people cry, islamophobia and hope that others just shut up and go away . others just shut up and go away. well, look. step forward, zarah sultana , who in 2015 reportedly sultana, who in 2015 reportedly wrote of her support for violent resistance by palestinians, previously apologised for telling any pro—israel supporters to jump off a cliff where she is in the commons last night. >> so rather than giving israel the green light to continue its brutal bombardment of gaza and risking a wider conflict, will the prime minister prime minister, seek to de—escalate the situation and call for an immediate ceasefire? right, so then rishi sunak just said this shapps, the honourable lady would would do well to call on hamas and the houthis to de—escalate the situation.
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>> fine . >> fine. >> fine. >> nothing wrong with that. he's not suggesting that she's got a direct line to them or anything. then step forward. jewish tory mp andrew percy, too many people give a free pass to the terrorists who air, who perpetrated the worst murder of jews. >> and we've just seen an example of that . example of that. >> well, in the walls world of zarah sultana. that was islamophobia, apparently she started to take offence when no offence was actually given, implying that because i am a muslim, i support hamas. >> so with rising islamophobia and racist tropes asking british muslims to prove their loyalty , muslims to prove their loyalty, can i ask you for guidance on how to get a full retraction and apology from the member for bngg apology from the member for brigg and goole? what >> no one said that no one was saying that at all. ironically labour does have a problem actually , when it comes to the actually, when it comes to the muslim vote in the next general election. and not being election. and this is not being spoken about nearly in spoken about nearly enough in the media. the so—called party of islam was rejected,
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thankfully, the electoral thankfully, by the electoral commission. but this doesn't stop of the muslim stop members of the muslim community on pro community standing on a pro palestine against labour palestine ticket against labour mps. and it is happening to wes streeting, the shadow health secretary for the ilford north constituency , which has constituency, which has apparently a 31.3% muslim community when it comes to the amount of people in that constituency. the candidate is leon mohammed , who is a corbyn leon mohammed, who is a corbyn follower. obviously, who has a good chance of turning over. streeting 5000 majority now vast swathes of constituencies have a massive muslim population. at one poll by muslim census claimed that there had been a 66% drop in the muslim labour vote to just 5. that was at the end of october. now the muslim vote could be to labour. what reform uk is to the tories. watch this space. let's go to the thoughts now on my panel on this political commentator suzanne former suzanne evans, former environment secretary ranil jayawardena mp, author and journalist rebecca reid .
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journalist rebecca reid. suzanne, i don't think this is spoken about nearly enough. now the damage that it could potentially do to the labour party in a whole host of seats, loads of seats, if independent, uh , candidates from the muslim uh, candidates from the muslim community stand overtly against labour on a pro—palestine ticket, that could well be the kind of reform uk. but but to labour it could well be. >> but it remains to be seen. i mean, this isn't something that we've seen british politics we've seen in british politics before let's not forget we've seen in british politics befo actually let's not forget we've seen in british politics befo actually the. not forget we've seen in british politics befo actually the muslim jet that actually the muslim community very divided community is very often divided as . people forget that. we as well. people forget that. we tend as a homogenous tend to see it as a homogenous whole. course, there whole. and of course, there isn't. there are. there are different factions the different factions within the muslim so muslim community as well. so could you potentially get one one candidate that satisfies them all? i don't know, it remains to be seen, but they were extra ordinary scenes were quite extra ordinary scenes in the house of commons that that just seen from zarah that we've just seen from zarah sultana. i it's very sultana. i mean, it's very interesting . don't what interesting. i don't think what rishi sunak said to her was wrong i certainly don't wrong at all. i certainly don't think . think it was islamophobic. arguably you could say she asked
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for it. i've been having a look at some of the statements that she's the hamas she's made about the hamas israeli it's interesting . israeli war. it's interesting. she made no statement at all on the 7th of october when hamas committed those those attacks, absolutely nothing . radio absolutely nothing. radio silence. five days later, she did make a statement. she said she condemned hamas appalling killing of civilians in israel. she said that again in the house, too. and she has also, of course, called for the release of the hostages. but on every single occasion she's mentioned those attacks by hamas, they have been in the context of attacks on israel. so i think the fact that she's never once asked hamas to lay down its arms, uh, or or, you know, seek peace talks , nothing like that. peace talks, nothing like that. has she ever done is this just the classic thing of people crying, islamophobia ? crying, islamophobia? >> i don't think it's that. i think that she's probably experience a lot of it throughout her life, and therefore probably quite therefore is probably quite sensitive good sensitive to it. and a good example is do remember on good morning recently, morning britain fairly recently, richard asked layla richard madeley asked layla moran, muslim , how did moran, who is muslim, how did you know that the attacks were
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coming? you heard any coming? had you heard any whispers? was . whispers? he was. >> got relatives >> i think she's got relatives in, . in, um. >> t- t— >> she has got relatives in gaza, also doesn't know gaza, but she also doesn't know anybody? far as we know. gaza, but she also doesn't know anyb or do you honestly do you want see things seriously? >> or do you honestly do you wan'zarahe things seriously? >> or do you honestly do you wan'zarah sultana seriously? >> or do you honestly do you wan'zarah sultana took>usly? >> or do you honestly do you wan'zarah sultana took that? >> or do you honestly do you wan'zarah sultana took that from the zarah sultana took that from that, she was deliberately that, or she was deliberately farming it up. that, or she was deliberately farrtwo it up. that, or she was deliberately farrtwo things i would say >> two things i would say that the statement mp the full statement from the mp for goole is more, uh, for brigg and goole is more, uh, confrontation towards her than we saw just now . it got very we saw just now. it got very heated between them. i can see both sides very much so . he was both sides very much so. he was a bit sharper towards her, and that's asked that's why she asked for a retraction. but what retraction. but i think what you're there you're seeing there is the culmination many culmination of many, many, many years experiencing low level years of experiencing low level and high level lama phobia in her which made her her life, which has made her behave a unreasonably. but behave a bit unreasonably. but we're the we're seeing the tip of the iceberg, definitely iceberg, and there is definitely a route to it. >> well, you a route to it. >> well, m a route to it. » wen, >> well, what do you what do you make i mean, the idea make of that? i mean, the idea that, you know, someone could be accused . i mean, accused of islamophobia. i mean, it seeing this all we it was seeing this all that we see know, see it all the time. you know, the want to get the police didn't want to get involved with grooming gang issues because they didn't want to islamophobia or to be accused of islamophobia or start tensions. start stoking racial tensions.
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you happens all you know, it happens all the time. wonder whether time. i just wonder whether or not people now use this as a defence well i mean, defence mechanism. well i mean, i a bit of a i think it's a bit of a smokescreen, actually. >> of smokescreen >> it's a bit of a smokescreen for this hard left corbynista labour party that's still there. you know, and she and others , you know, and she and others, including sir keir starmer, um , including sir keir starmer, um, all try to get corbyn elected . all try to get corbyn elected. and the truth is that they're a load of them who still agree with corbyn worldview . and with the corbyn worldview. and unfortunately keir starmer, unfortunately for keir starmer, people like zara sultana are revealed their true colours to the country by going on these marches . she's not alone and marches. she's not alone and indeed , at these marches, you've indeed, at these marches, you've got people who benefit from everything that this country and, you know, the liberal western world has to offer, and they hate the west and they chant against the west, they chant against the west, they chant against the west, they chant against this country. and i think for labour mps to be associating themselves with that is a disgrace. >> yeah, i think no mp should be going on those totally going on those marches totally agree with suella braverman. they marches. you see they are hate marches. you see that constantly in what people say at them. you the way the
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participants behave . uh, any mp participants behave. uh, any mp that goes on those marches, i'm afraid it is , is basically afraid it is, is basically backing very dangerous ideology. at the very least . i don't think at the very least. i don't think they hate marchers. >> i think in any demonstration, for instance, whether it's the anti—lockdown demonstrations or the, uh, pro—palestine marches , the, uh, pro—palestine marches, you're going to get some people who behave very poorly. the majority who go majority of the people who go are most atrocious are saying the most atrocious things, but the vast majority. are saying the most atrocious thingto but the vast majority. are saying the most atrocious thingto clarify, vast majority. are saying the most atrocious thingto clarify, i'mt majority. are saying the most atrocious thingto clarify, i'm sorry.>rity. are saying the most atrocious thingto clarify, i'm sorry. well, and to clarify, i'm sorry. well, i think hamas is a terrorist organisation. i am very much , i organisation. i am very much, i believe, in israel's right to exist, but they are not universally right. exist, but they are not uni'i'm ally right. exist, but they are not uni'i'm just. right. exist, but they are not uni'i'm just. yeah, right. exist, but they are not uni'i'm just. yeah, fine. ght. exist, but they are not uni'i'm just. yeah, fine. i1t. exist, but they are not uni'i'm just. yeah, fine. i think >> i'm just. yeah, fine. i think it's something really it's something that's really worth this worth noting is watch this space, which is going to be about candidates on about independent candidates on about independent candidates on a standing a pro—palestine ticket standing against a variety different against a variety of different labour mps. i think that is a good chance that's going to have a the next a big impact on the next election who also election. but someone who also wants impact in wants to have a big impact in the next election is reform uk leader he's going the next election is reform uk leade licking he's going the next election is reform uk leade licking his he's going the next election is reform uk leade licking his he's gatng to be licking his lips now at this tory implosion. this latest tory implosion. he wants anderson to his wants lee anderson to join his party. apparently we'll hear from very , soon. from richard very, very soon. but next, remember this england
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football legend . absolutely football legend. absolutely world cup winner nobby stiles, famous for his toothless jig in 1966. a few years ago , nobby 1966. a few years ago, nobby sadly died aged 78, with advanced dementia and an exclusive interview. next, i am joined by his son, who is leading a lawsuit against the fa over brain injuries allegedly suffered during his dad's career. that's . not to be career. that's. not to be
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gb news. now nobby stiles was the manchester united and england footballing legend who won the world cup in 1966. charmed the nafion world cup in 1966. charmed the nation with his post—match dance on the wembley pitch, holding the world cup trophy in one hand and his false teeth in the other. but when he passed away in 2020, nobby became the fifth member of the golden boys from the 1966 world cup to die ,
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the 1966 world cup to die, having suffered from dementia . having suffered from dementia. scientific evidence suggests that repetitive blows to the head during contact sports like football can cause significant damage to the brain , and nobby's damage to the brain, and nobby's family are now taking legal action against the football association for alleged negligence over brain injuries. i'm joined now by nobby's son, john st giles' john, look, thank you very much. it's great to have you on the show . why are have you on the show. why are you taking the fa to court. >> uh, quite simply, patrick, it's because after three years of campaigning, after my dad died to get help for players who were suffering with the cte dementia , um, uh, nothing's dementia, um, uh, nothing's happened. >> so we've got to do something . >> so we've got to do something. it's too late for my dad. >> um , just to fill you in. >> um, just to fill you in. >> um, just to fill you in. >> what? the reason why we're so vehement about it is because when dad we donated his when dad died, we donated his brain , and his brain riddled brain, and his brain was riddled with the disease called chronic traumatic encephalopathy. >> cte that can only be caused
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by head impacts. so we know that heading the ball killed my father . nobody heading the ball killed my father. nobody seems to heading the ball killed my father . nobody seems to know father. nobody seems to know about this disease that killed my father. and i'm convinced that hundreds, if thousands that hundreds, if not thousands of players have died and are going die because of it. going to die because of it. and nothing is being done about it and nothing is being done to help the families who are suffering from the same disease my father had with care home costs, all the rest of it. there's very little help that's been given to them, and that's why want to shake things up why we want to shake things up and we want to get football to take care of this problem, because a real because it's a real, real problem . problem. >> i mean, the fa essentially >> i mean, is the fa essentially trying to wash their hands of any responsible party here at the ? the moment? >> well, i go into details >> well, i can't go into details about the case, to be honest with you , patrick, if you with you, patrick, but if you want to answer it overall and want me to answer it overall and within regards to football, then absolutely. yes, i believe that football is washing its hands of it. it knows about it. jevon hirst. uh .jeff.
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it. it knows about it. jevon hirst. uh . jeff. jeff astell's hirst. uh. jeff. jeff astell's career said 20 years ago that heading the ball killed him and then it's 2013. they found out that jeff had cte, the same as my . so this is real my father. so this is a real problem. they even doctors problem. they don't even doctors and know look and coroners don't know to look for disease . obviously for this disease. obviously there's other damage. frontal lobe damage, but specifically this is what killed my father. and we need to get something done to sort this out. this is scandal. it's an absolute scandal. it's an absolute scandal . scandal. >> look, what can happen. i mean this with absolute respect, but obviously, sadly, it's too late for your dad, right? and it's too late for a lot of people from that era . right. so from that era. right. so realistically , what can happen realistically, what can happen now ? now? >> well, what i want to see, patrick, is a fund, a proper fund, not like the one that's been created recently , you see, been created recently, you see, in any other industry. patrick, if you had workers dying of a of a of an injury from the job that they were doing, you would have a union protecting them. but the footballers don't have a union that properly . it that functions properly. it doesn't its members .
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doesn't look after its members. it doesn't look after its ex—players . they're not looking ex—players. they're not looking being looked after because they've got to pay for health care funds and the rest of care funds and all the rest of it. i want a fund. we want it. so i want a fund. we want a fund created a proper fund that will of all the will take care of all the players get dementia from players who get dementia from heading to take care of heading the ball to take care of the care costs. we the health care costs. and we want the players to informed want the players to be informed and the current players , i mean, and the current players, i mean, i went, i and the current players, i mean, iwent, i got and the current players, i mean, i went, i got kicked out of doncaster rovers, my ex club , doncaster rovers, my ex club, for handing out leaflets to players and one of the i went outside and one of the cars came along and one of the lads opened the window, gave a leaflet and the window, gave a leaflet and the came, said i'm the last car came, said i'm sorry we, they've just sorry mate, we, they've just rung can't talk rung me and said we can't talk to i've been trying to to you. so i've been trying to get player. you . i bet get the player. if you. i bet harry know about harry kane doesn't know about it, about kyle walker doesn't know lucy bronze know about it, about lucy bronze doesn't know what cte is. and this is a disgrace. they should know . and then they can make know. and then they can make their informed decision . i'm their own informed decision. i'm not it. heading out not saying take it. heading out of , but they be of football, but they should be able did you know about cte, able to. did you know about cte, patrick, before i've just mentioned. >> no, not not really. no no.
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>> no, not not really. no no. >> is what i'm saying. >> well this is what i'm saying. and is something to do with and this is something to do with the national game heading the ball. happened? what ball. what happened? what happens? patrick is you head the ball, protein breaks off. ball, a tau protein breaks off. you another you don't ever have another impact . it settles over impact. it settles down. over the footballers had the years, the footballers had tens of balls. the tens of thousands of balls. the tau clumps up lodges on tau protein clumps up lodges on the brain and destroys it. and that's what killed my father . that's what killed my father. and that's what we want to tell all the players about patrick. well i hope to talk to you again about this as it progresses. >> good luck with everything that that's that you're trying to do. that's john nobby that you're trying to do. that's john his nobby that you're trying to do. that's john his son, nobby that you're trying to do. that's john his son, who nobby that you're trying to do. that's john his son, who is nobby that you're trying to do. that's john his son, who is taking stiles. his son, who is taking the fa to court. i can sense something brewing here. another kind of postmaster style scandal on itv. doc drama in the making, i think. but there we go . an faa i think. but there we go. an faa spokesperson did say thank you very much. faa spokesperson very much. an faa spokesperson did we're not to did say we're not able to comment legal comment on ongoing legal proceedings. we continue to take a leading role in reviewing and improving the safety of our game. this includes investing in and projects and supporting multiple projects in order gain greater in order to gain a greater understanding this uh, understanding of this area. uh, exactly. you can also just
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exactly. so you can also just read rest of that statement. read the rest of that statement. it's your screens right it's on your screens right there, right now. so look, i've got way got loads more coming your way as all as the prime minister got it all wrong issue of wrong on the issue of immigration. of touch immigration. is he out of touch with mood reform uk with the public mood reform uk leader tice weighs in. leader richard tice weighs in. he's offered lee anderson the chance to join his party should he ? that's next. he? that's next. >> like things are heating >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsor us of up. boxt boilers sponsor us of weather on gb news is . good weather on gb news is. good evening alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast. >> it is going to be cold tonight and with the risk tonight and with that the risk of harsh frost, icy patches of some harsh frost, icy patches and of further snow and a little bit of further snow , a pressure across , a low pressure system across northern parts of the uk today brought significant snow brought some significant snow here. however, worst . of here. however, the worst. of thatis here. however, the worst. of that is clearing away towards the east with just some outbreaks of rain, sleet or snow pushing southwards pushing their way southwards across central across parts of northern central england and wales. as go england and wales. as we go through evening and through this evening and overnight. most of this breaking up as goes up though, as it goes further north, clearer skies for many, but some snow showers feeding in, to northern
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i >> -- >> this is em >> this is patrick christys tonight . tonight. >> it can't be in a position to vote for something which i don't believe in. i've not done it for lee anderson. i've done it for the residents of ashfield. >> lee anderson gone brendan clarke—smith gone. the red wall crumbling. does anyone trust rishi sunak on immigration? is he way out of touch with the pubuc he way out of touch with the public mood? we'll discuss it all in a monumental night for the plus reform the prime minister. plus reform uk leader richard tice wasted no time in telling lee to defect this is how he responded. >> conservative party is the best party moving forward to get us out of this mess. so it's very kind of richard tice tells lee to roll the dice. >> that's next. meanwhile, do you value for money on your you get value for money on your council tax shambles? >> actually, you know , we've got
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>> actually, you know, we've got potholes everywhere and just can't council are can't believe the council are 100 million in debt. oh yeah, of course you're down. >> why is every single council going bust? plus there's exclusive reporting from lady colin campbell on the lilibet gate scandal. did the sussexes have the late queen's blessing to give their child her name, and why are there calls for the archbishop of woke, the father of virtue signalling justin welby to resign? i'll reveal all in due course. and joining me on the sofa for a raucous night of political debate is suzanne evans, conservative mp and former government minister ranil jayawardene and rebecca reid, as well . look, the tories are in well. look, the tories are in turmoil again. are you ready , turmoil again. are you ready, britain? here we go. should lee anderson defect to reform uk ? richard tice makes reform uk? richard tice makes his pitch to the red wall
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rottweiler right after your news with paul . patrick with paul. patrick >> thank you. good evening. parliamentary amendments tabled to strengthen the government's rwanda bill were both defeated in the commons tonight. our political editor christopher hope, explains it's a difficult night. >> then for the pm. rishi sunak and his rwanda plan with 60 tory mps, two independents and eight dup mps voting for amendments to try and strengthen his plan, they weren't impressed by the remarks. from the prime minister to gb news on monday, making clear he would overrule european judges which try and frustrate the will of the uk government in sending illegally arrived migrants who arrive here by boat back to rwanda. there has been some casualties too. we have seen the resignations of both lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith , two, deputy clarke—smith, two, deputy chairman of the tory party and later tonight, the resignation
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of jane stevenson, a parliamentary private secretary to kemi badenoch . so food for to kemi badenoch. so food for thought overnight for government whips and for mr sunak and his team as we go into a key day tomorrow when more amendments are voted on. but, crucially, if the bill remains unamended, there will be a third reading tomorrow night and that vote could be lost unless whips and the pm, maybe himself personally, can persuade some of those 60 or so tory mps not to vote the bill down on wednesday night, chris offer hope. >> well, in other news, today , a >> well, in other news, today, a fujitsu boss accused the post office of knowing about the bugs and errors in the horizon. it system. the business and trade committee heard from key figures involved in the post office scandal , involved in the post office scandal, including involved in the post office scandal , including fujitsu scandal, including fujitsu executive paul patterson, who apologised and admitted that his company had a moral obligation to contribute towards compensating victims. the wrongly accused former
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postmaster and leader of the subpostmasters alliance , alan subpostmasters alliance, alan bates, blamed red tape for delays to compensation payments . delays to compensation payments. a people smuggler has been jailed for trying to bring a migrant into the uk by cramming her into the dash board of his car. if you're watching on tv, take a look at this extra ordinary image of a vietnamese woman wedged inside a tiny , woman wedged inside a tiny, custom built hideaway behind the man's glove box border force officers searching the vehicle and noticing the carpet on the passenger side was slightly out of place . 33 year old joseph of place. 33 year old joseph balog, from slovakia, was sentenced to two and a half years in prison for assisting unlawful immigration at canterbury crown court today , a canterbury crown court today, a very cold outside. in fact, the coldest january night in 14 years, hitting the uk tonight, according to the met office. temperature in scotland reaching as low as minus 15 c. more than 100 schools closed there today , 100 schools closed there today, and the met office issuing
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yellow weather warnings for snow andice yellow weather warnings for snow and ice , including for northern and ice, including for northern england and parts of wales that remains in place until midnight. and the met office is saying a cold plunge of arctic air has moved south across the whole country over the last few days, making it 5 to 6 degrees lower than usual for this time of yeah than usual for this time of year. and the government's confirmed thousands of households in england and wales are now eligible for cold weather payments . you with gb weather payments. you with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> the big noise today is all about the rwanda plan. deputy tory chairman lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith got when they quit. in reality , they were they quit. in reality, they were forced out because they wanted to toughen up the rwanda bill. this was lee yesterday is not a rebellion. >> patrick. this is this is about making sure that the bill
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is beefed up a little bit . look, is beefed up a little bit. look, brendan and i both agree with pretty much 90% of this rwanda bill. we just feel that there's a few areas in the bill that could be strengthened to make sure that it's watertight . but sure that it's watertight. but this is not about us rebelling . this is not about us rebelling. it's about us saying, you know what? the bill, most of it is satisfactory . you just need to satisfactory. you just need to beefit satisfactory. you just need to beef it up a little bit to close all the loopholes and make sure that people come here that people can't come over here and well and break into our country. well this was him today. i can't be in a position to vote for something which i don't believe in. done it for lee in. i've not done it for lee anderson. i've done it for the residents of ashfield. 55.5% of the residents in ashfield when asked by a telegraph poll, said they want to see the immediate deportation or removal of illegal migrants. have done it for them, not for lee anderson. >> right. well, i mean, it does appear like that's the wall appear like that's the red wall gone take a look gone then. i mean, take a look at picture. all right. it's at this picture. all right. it's caption time. caption competition time. everybody one source everybody i spoke to one source today genuinely thought today that genuinely thought that rishi might stand for that rishi sunak might stand for aside can you
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aside david cameron. can you imagine ? can imagine? we've imagine? can you imagine? we've got the former immigration minister, jenrick , minister, robert jenrick, telling behind the telling me that behind the scenes, government lawyers scenes, the government lawyers cannot against cannot and will not go against foreign courts or international law. then you've got rishi sunak saying this , that i've been very saying this, that i've been very clear. >> i won't let a foreign court stop us from getting flights off in this deterrent working. now there's a clause in the bill that says very specifically that it is for ministers to decide whether to comply with these rule 39 rulings, as they're called . i would not have put called. i would not have put that clause in the bill if i was not prepared to use it. >> but is he prepared to use it? >> but is he prepared to use it? >> i just don't think he is. and then today, mps voted against an amendment that would mean international stop international law couldn't stop us people rwanda . you us sending people to rwanda. you just couldn't all this up . just couldn't make all this up. we now have a situation where if all the people voted for one all the people who voted for one of the amendments tonight hold their then rishi their nerve tomorrow, then rishi rwanda plan will be voted down. thatis rwanda plan will be voted down. that is essentially no that is essentially a vote of no confidence and goodness knows that is essentially a vote of no
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confiihappensj goodness knows that is essentially a vote of no confiihappens then dness knows that is essentially a vote of no confiihappens then .ness knows that is essentially a vote of no confiihappens then . well,;nows that is essentially a vote of no confiihappens then . well, before what happens then. well, before i the reaction from my i get the reaction from my panel i get the reaction from my panel, let's cross to reform uk leader richard tice, joins leader richard tice, who joins me now. richard, thank you very much , richard. you wasted no much, richard. you wasted no time in telling lee anderson to go and your party he go and join your party after he resigned . well, i mean, can i resigned. well, i mean, can i just say here's how he responded when our political editor, christopher hope, asked him about your proposition , about about your proposition, conservative party gave me a home when i was politically homeless. >> they backed me. they financially backed me. they wrapped arms me. wrapped their arms around me. i still the conservative still think the conservative party is the best party moving forward to get us out this party is the best party moving forwarso» get us out this party is the best party moving forwar�*so it'st us out this party is the best party moving forwar�*so it's very)ut this party is the best party moving forwar�*so it's very)ut of1is mess. so it's very kind of richard. a few , um, richard. we've had a few, um, you know, few dingos over the you know, a few dingos over the past few weeks, a few, you know, a few arguments. but he's a good man. he's a great man, i like him, as friend, him, i class him as a friend, but you the best him, i class him as a friend, but forward you the best him, i class him as a friend, but forward yotsolve the best him, i class him as a friend, but forwardyotsolve this best way forward to solve this problem is a strong conservative party like party with strong mps like myself . myself. >> well, this time week, >> well, this time last week, richard, was looking to rent richard, i was looking to rent out pub park suella out a pub car park suella anderson could have a scrap in it, you want him in it, but now you want him in your party. listen? it, but now you want him in your parwell, listen? it, but now you want him in your parwell, i'm listen? it, but now you want him in your parwell, i'm pleased to say, as >> well, i'm pleased to say, as i chris a bit i said to chris hope a bit
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earlier, invited earlier, which invited that question, have earlier, which invited that q|very)n, have earlier, which invited that q|very strict have earlier, which invited that q|very strict vetting have earlier, which invited that q|very strict vetting process have earlier, which invited that q|very strict vetting process inve a very strict vetting process in reform uk, but both lee anderson and brendan, they pass that strict vetting process. >> so that's uh, past uh, first base. look, i was up in cumbria last night and skipton the night before campaigning and i'm telling you that up and down the country, the people want the boats stopped, but they have no confidence that this rwanda plan, in any shape or form . plan, in any shape or form. firstly, they don't think it will pass the houses of parliament and even if it did, they don't think that anybody is going to rwanda . this is a whole going to rwanda. this is a whole load of noise. >> frankly, patrick, it'll make no difference. >> lee has there in that interview has inferred , and interview has inferred, and it'll be very interesting to see what lee does. and he is good what lee does. and he is a good man . it's absolutely the man. it's absolutely in the right there right place. he said there he couldn't for something he couldn't vote for something he didn't believe well, let's didn't believe in. well, let's see happens night see what happens tomorrow night because tory mps who because of those 60 tory mps who voted amendment this voted for the amendment this evening , how them will evening, how many of them will actually go through , uh, the, actually go through, uh, the, um, go through the polling
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booths, uh, tomorrow night and vote for rishi sunaks , uh, bill. vote for rishi sunaks, uh, bill. and i suspect the answer will be a great number of them, because tomorrow night it's a confidence vote . and frankly, if the if the vote. and frankly, if the if the government lose tomorrow night, it's the end of this government. so they'll all bottle it at the last in order to protect last minute in order to protect their skins to protect their own skins and to protect their own skins and to protect the prime minister. but the doors open. they know my number. and frankly, only home and frankly, we're the only home if is serious about if anybody is serious about wanting to stop the boats with the that will work, the only policy that will work, which is to pick up and take back. it's a version of what we know because in know works because it works in australia and we're legally entitled . entitled to do it. >> so just to confirm , anyone >> so just to confirm, anyone who is desperate to vote against this rwanda bill tomorrow, who is a conservative mp would you take them in reform uk? >> well, obviously, patrick, as i said, they've got to pass our vetting process and there's a number of people, excellent people who clearly would do people who who clearly would do that. and there's no greater sign of your commitment and your determination actually to defend
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our borders, to protect british citizens and wanting to stop the boats by saying that the tory party going to do it party are not going to do it because they're dominated by left democrats , left leaning social democrats, the one nation that sunak the one nation bunch that sunak is, is frankly a member of himself and terrified of. and they will win the day. and this is going nowhere. absolutely nowhere. noise, all the nowhere. all the noise, all the kerfuffle. it's going nowhere . kerfuffle. it's going nowhere. no one's going to rwanda except home secretaries and hundreds of millions . millions of our cash. >> i think there are some parallels, though, there, parallels, though, aren't there, between whether or not the conservatives essentially voted for sunak for no confidence in rishi sunak tomorrow, possibly leading a tomorrow, possibly leading to a snap election, almost definitely leading a labour government, leading to a labour government, or people choose or whether or not people choose to their vote to reform uk to give their vote to reform uk in the next election. arguably it leads to the same situation , it leads to the same situation, doesn't it? which is a labour government know what a vote for reform uk does is to say that actually we don't want socialism. >> we don't want the first, we don't want the two main parties and their versions of high taxes , high wasteful government spending, massive immigration.
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it's all a catastrophe for the country and i want people to vote for what they believe in, not patrick. what you try to infer is you've got to vote for against what you're afraid of. that's a terrible way to run a democracy. we've got to ban it and it and get and scrap it and get proportional representation. but i say the more millions of people who for reform, people who vote for reform, the more will get reform in due more we will get reform in due course . this is not a one course. this is not a one election project. patrick this is a medium terme , serious is a medium terme, serious project to reform our country . project to reform our country. and frankly, that the tories should rename rename themselves the social democrats or the console royalist party. and they don't own the philosophy of conservatism . um, and frankly, conservatism. um, and frankly, they don't practice it either. and it's about time that they were punished for it. >> all right. look richard, thank you very, very much. that's tice there. the that's richard tice there. the leader reform uk , who leader of, uh, reform uk, who earlier offered lee anderson earlier on offered lee anderson the opportunity to go and join party. obviously as he was very clear on there. lee anderson does pass the strict vetting
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process to respond to this. now joining our political commentator, , commentator, suzanne evans, former environment secretary ranil mp, author ranil jayawardena mp, author and journalist . rebecca reid. uh, journalist. rebecca reid. uh, look, ronald, do you think lee anderson should, uh, should just join? yeah, reform uk. join? yeah, join reform uk. i mean, clearly a load of your a load of your, um, colleagues there are actually bang in favour of what richard tice is putting across instead of stopping the boats now. putting across instead of st0|well the boats now. putting across instead of st0|well the short; now. putting across instead of st0|well the short answer no, >> well the short answer is no, he uk, he he shouldn't join reform uk, he should the should stay with the conservative party as he out conservative party as he set out because party because the conservative party is party that can defeat is the party that can defeat laboun is the party that can defeat labour, stop the labour, that can stop the socialism that richard tice is right out. don't want right to call out. we don't want that socialism from the labour party to govern this country. and that the people who and we know that the people who are right are in the labour party right now, starmer , now, including sir keir starmer, wanted corbyn in downing wanted to put corbyn in downing street in the first place. so, uh, join, uh, so no, he shouldn't join, uh, so no, he shouldn't join, uh, . the, real uh, reform. but the, the real point is that actually there is a plan at least from the conservative party, which everyone can agree, regardless of where you're coming at it from. conservative party, from. in the conservative party, which wants the which is everyone wants the round flights to off. round of flights to take off. and to on and that's what got to focus on right . right now. >> question. this is
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>> this is a question. this is genuinely . why the genuinely a question. why is the rwanda than what he rwanda plan better than what he detailed just tow them back? >> well, in the australian example that he also talked about, one of the key things they had was offshore processing. and so that is what this is this does provide that deterrent, which was the biggest deterrent, which was the biggest deterrent in the australian scheme. >> but is it not just can they not just literally like safely take people back to france just like that over and over again? >> i'm going uh , i was >> i'm not going to, uh, i was about to a word. i i'm not about to use a word. i i'm not going to say something that i'm not qualified to speak on because i've not at the because i've not been at the home . but what i do know home office. but what i do know is that the rwanda scheme works on the same principle that the australian scheme did, which had on the same principle that the austreothercheme did, which had on the same principle that the austreother elements. , which had on the same principle that the austreother elements. yesich had on the same principle that the austreother elements. yes buthad some other elements. yes but a core part of it was offshore processing in papua new guinea. and what this does indeed. >> do you think there is a case to say that if a lot these to say that if a lot of these rwanda intel , to say that if a lot of these rwanda intel, we rwanda rebels had intel, we actually would be having a no confidence vote in rishi sunak. >> yeah, i think think there >> yeah, i think i think there is a case for saying is absolutely a case for saying that. said earlier, i
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that. i as i said earlier, i find incredible that, you find it incredible that, you know, against the know, you'll vote against the government one night and then change and vote for change your mind and vote for them next and think them the next night. and i think people will think, people watching will think, well, is their conviction well, where is their conviction on? are they just not happy? >> just just to clarify on >> and just just to clarify on this, because been fast this, because it has been a fast moving picture today and it is genuinely the different genuinely with the different amendments, is amendments, everything, it is quite amendments, everything, it is quhe up amendments, everything, it is quite up with quite difficult to keep up with exactly but we exactly what's going on. but we could have the could very well have the i think, farcical situation think, quite farcical situation where people voted for amendments today have very vocally voiced their genuine belief that this rwanda plan is not going to work and can't work, but will vote for it tomorrow anyway. >> that's probably what's going to happen because richard tice said absolutely right. the said he's absolutely right. the conservatives regroup . they conservatives will regroup. they will put first. they won't will put party first. they won't want a confidence vote in rishi sunak because that, that's sunak because that, well, that's just absolutely farcical . just absolutely farcical. >> but but but here's the thing. so if you believe that the round of flights should take off, that's a pretty clear yes or no. most the conservative party most of the conservative party i'd contend. all the i'd contend. in fact, all the conservative say conservative party would say yes. an idea yes. some people have an idea that they it will take
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that they think it will take off, and it will be easier to do it they go xyz, but they it if they go xyz, but they still believe they should it if they go xyz, but they still off. eve they should it if they go xyz, but they still off. eve that'sey should it if they go xyz, but they still off. eve that'sey sh> our with our >> of course, with our with our with public, nine with the british public, nine out of ten constituencies want to a reduction in legal to see a reduction in legal immigration by the way, uh, a majority of people underestimated amount net underestimated the amount of net migration to the uk by ten times, which staggering. they times, which is staggering. they still want reduce then still want to reduce that. then we've got the illegal immigration side of it. meanwhile, of meanwhile, we've got a load of people in parliament. they're pontificating best pontificating over the best way to flights the to get some flights off the ground, the lords ground, and the house of lords is going to block all is possibly going to block all of anyway. of this anyway. >> 39% of people >> yeah. i mean, 39% of people who were yougov and it who were asked by yougov and it was like 3500 person in was like a 3500 person study in november scrap
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november 2023, said scrap rwanda. they said, yes, we want we want immigration to be changed, but didn't want changed, but they didn't want rwanda to be the plan. i i believe we need reform in believe that we need reform in immigration, and i didn't necessarily believe that this time last year or the year before, i have come to believe that. think rwanda that. i just don't think rwanda is i think is a sensible plan. i think when something is a sensible plan. i think when s(reason|g it keeps not a reason that it keeps not working. is a really working. and this is a really complicated , i would say, silly complicated, i would say, silly way doing it. and i think way of doing it. and i think really we do it simpler. really we could do it simpler. yeah, . by i think are yeah, cheaper. by i think are you now pro turning boats back only because i think the human trafficking element it is not trafficking element of it is not being handled properly and people danger. people are really in danger. people making people are really in danger. peopl�*from making people are really in danger. peopl�*from it. making people are really in danger. peopl�*from it. yeah making people are really in danger. peopl�*from it. yeah i making people are really in danger. peopl�*from it. yeah i still making profit from it. yeah i still believe that refugees believe absolutely that refugees should be able to come here, that from somewhere like that anybody from somewhere like afghanistan or ukraine, absolutely . but do understand absolutely. but i do understand the economic as far can see. >> look, tomorrow is going to be absolutely electric, especially right here on this because right here on this show, because we're out what earth bones out of what on earth is going in house of going to happen in the house of commons. it could kind commons. it could be some kind of vote in of pseudo no confidence vote in rishi to rishi sunak. it could lead to a snap general election. it could lead anything. snap general election. it could lead it anything. snap general election. it could lead it fundamentally thing. snap general election. it could lead it fundamentally comes down snap general election. it could le'met fundamentally comes down snap general election. it could le'met fundwhether.y comes down
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snap general election. it could le'met fundwhether or:omes down snap general election. it could le'met fundwhether or notes down to me as to whether or not rishi sunak to prepared ignore sunak is to prepared ignore calls lawyers internally calls from lawyers internally and say, well, i don't and actually say, well, i don't care about annoying judges in strasbourg if he's got the bottle for that. i'm not sure. i'm not sure he does, but we're going to have to move on for now. personal now. coming up as his personal support for former post office chief becoming chief paula vennells becoming the bishop london is the bishop of london is uncovered, the archbishop uncovered, should the archbishop of now resign ? of canterbury now resign? tonight's panel thrashed that out in my press but also out in my press pack, but also next, as the late queen's anger at the sussexes choosing their name name their daughter name to name their daughter lilibet is revealed in an explosive new book, did harry and meghan lie to the world when they claimed to have her approval? and it's actually serious danger now of prince harry writing another so—called tell all. but i know another one. our royal master minds lady colin campbell. i'm phil dampier . they beam in live to tackle that for us. plus the latest backlash brewing against prince harry in the states, their unrivalled royal insight is coming your way next. you will not want to miss it as patrick christys inaya elianne
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news news . news news. >> this is patrick christie's tonight only on gb news. tonight's panel of pundits returned to run through the first of tomorrow's front pages very, very soon. but first, we welcome lady colin campbell and phil dampier for tonight's royal dispatch . an explosive new
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dispatch. an explosive new biography has revealed that the late queen was as angry as staff had ever seen her. after harry and meghan claimed that she had supported their decision to name their daughter lilibet. supported their decision to name their daughter lilibet . so queen their daughter lilibet. so queen elizabeth affectionately elizabeth ii was affectionately known as lilibet by a select handful of her closest friends and most notably and family. most notably her husband philip. before husband prince philip. before the sussexes chose to name for their second born child back in 2021. but in robert hardman's new biography, charles the third new king, new court palace insiders unveil how the queen was left stunned by the suggestion that she had been supportive of this decision , and supportive of this decision, and she's described as angry . she's she's described as angry. she's reported to have told staff i don't own the palaces, i don't own the paintings. the only thing i own is my name. and now they've taken that well . lady c, they've taken that well. lady c, you were told at the time that the queen was furious over the sussexes decision to name their daughter, lilibet , weren't you? daughter, lilibet, weren't you? i you think that harry i mean, do you think that harry and lied when they said and meghan lied when they said that she'd been supportive?
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>> i think they had to >> well, i think they had to have lied because as i said at the time, my information was that they that harry asked her if he could name his his daughter after her and he she thought the name was going to be elizabeth . elizabeth. >> and it came as a great shock to her to discover that not only had he gone behind her back and named the child lilibet , but named the child lilibet, but that he had already altered the birth in such a way that it was not possible for the name to be changed? uh, so she had to swallow it, so to speak . swallow it, so to speak. >> okay. and phil, what do you make of this? i mean, is it actually a massive deal? is it not, you know, quite cute , i not, you know, quite cute, i suppose they've named it after me of they deliberately mugged the queen off here. what? what do hey do you make of it? hey >> good evening. patrick. i just think sad to think it's very, very sad to learn, it ? in the think it's very, very sad to learn, it? in the final learn, isn't it? in the final few months of her life, this amazing this incredible
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amazing woman, this incredible reign she had she was reign she had that she was undergoing this heartache to the extent so angry extent where she became so angry that aides they'd never seen that aides say they'd never seen her think, lady, her angrier. i think, lady, she's probably think she's probably right. i think he probably tricked her. he said that? he asked, call that? he asked, could he call her after her, she probably her after her, as she probably thought meant was thought that meant it was elizabeth. by the time elizabeth. and then by the time she found out it was lilibet, it was it was all too late and it was it was all too late and it was accompli. see was a fait accompli. but i see that friend , uh, omid that our old friend, uh, omid scobie in the in on the scobie has got in the in on the act today. he tweeted earlier that, uh, these revelations about the queen weren't showing her good light. her in a very good light. i mean, he could twist that mean, only he could twist that round that extent . round to that extent. >> yeah. i mean, the, the idea that ahmed scobie is in any way qualified to pass judgement on arguably the greatest ever person that this country has ever produced is ridiculous . but ever produced is ridiculous. but further revelations in hardmans book include the palace fears that prince harry will write a sequel to spare a lady. see i'll get your your views on this. apparently apparently, bits about his wedding were not covered in the original publication. is this is this
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true ? is anyone? i mean, surely true? is anyone? i mean, surely he can't just keep , true? is anyone? i mean, surely he can't just keep, you true? is anyone? i mean, surely he can't just keep , you know, he can't just keep, you know, trotting out this rubbish, can he ? he? >> well , i he? >> well, i mean, he can do anything he wants . it's a free anything he wants. it's a free country. and so he's america. but the fact of the matter is, i have been told that meghan is the one who is going to be writing a book, and that omid scabies are set up. the situation for her to name the king and the princess of wales , king and the princess of wales, and that the book is going to be written by harry. it's going to be written by meghan. but the fact of the matter is, in my opinion, everybody so turned off by and their constant by them and their constant anfics by them and their constant antics and lies that i don't think people are going to buy the book in much the same way that nobody has bought end game. i mean , it's tanked in the most i mean, it's tanked in the most appalling way, and i suspect any book she writes is going to tank as well. and if she doesn't, her reputation is certainly going to tank with it .
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reputation is certainly going to tank with it. mm. >> yeah. okay phil, what do you what do you think about this idea of there being a sequel to spare. >> well, we've had we've had first lady. she says we've had finding freedom haven't we. we've game, which were we've had end game, which were both written scobie , and both written by scobie, and we've had spare now. he we've also had spare now. he definitely left quite a few chunks out of spare things that he could talk about. and this whole chunks of things that he hasn't to. i hasn't yet referred to. but i think might think lady c's right. it might well meghan. well be done through meghan. so that be the way that they that might be the way that they do um, you know, but do it. um, you know, but whichever you look at it , whichever way you look at it, this is something that's been hanging family hanging over the royal family and probably one the and is probably one of the main barriers of barriers to any kind of reconciling , because the king reconciling, because the king and william and kate will just be worried anything be worried that anything they say, any communications, any long distance phone calls will end up in a new book. that is the problem. just don't the big problem. they just don't trust him. >> well, we actually did reach out on out to archewell for comment on that hearing that lilibet story we're hearing about. to about. they've they've failed to respond. in the states, respond. but over in the states, prince is facing a prince harry is facing a backlash pilots over backlash from us pilots over plans to induct him a living plans to induct him as a living legend of aviation, which is
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remarkable, isn't it? harry will be honoured for his, quote, significant contribution to aviation and aerospace. a glitzy hollywood ceremony hosted by john travolta celebrating his time flying military aircraft in afghanistan . but a petition for afghanistan. but a petition for harry to hand back the award has so far gained more than 11,000 signatures, many describing his inclusion as a joke. uh, phil, i'll start with you on this. should the duke hand back the award out of respect for genuine military heroes ? military heroes? >> he should. >> he should. >> if he's got any decency, he should hold it back . i mean, the should hold it back. i mean, the handit should hold it back. i mean, the hand it back. i mean, the idea that put the that he should be put in the same category people like same category as people like neil armstrong and buzz aldrin and gun people is and top gun people is ridiculous. you know ? and the ridiculous. you know? and the fact when was in the fact is that when he was in the armed he always said armed forces, he always said that of big things he that one of the big things he liked was the fact liked about it was the fact that he a normal he was treated as a normal person. you person. so, yeah, you know, you can't away from him. he can't take it away from him. he put life on the line. he he put his life on the line. he he did but was no did his service. but it was no different from from a lot of other people. they're other people. and they're not being why should he. >> all right. and finally lady
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c, just to you on that, i mean, what do you think of this, this prince lifetime aviation prince harry lifetime aviation award? i mean, how's he been happened, you know. well it's a it's a paid for award . it's a paid for award. >> and he, you know , it's the >> and he, you know, it's the kittyhawk flight . club or kittyhawk flight. club or whatever it's called , and he has whatever it's called, and he has to pay $30,000 for it. and uh, he then gets a table and he gets an award and, you know, it's not exactly . a weighty matter at and exactly. a weighty matter at and it's farcical as well , because, it's farcical as well, because, i mean, the only thing that harry has flown on his own because, remember, he was a gunner, because, remember, he was a gunner , he wasn't a pilot, he gunner, he wasn't a pilot, he was a gunner, which means that he wasn't actually flying the helicopter. he was taking care of the gun . so. and the only of the gun. so. and the only thing that has been flying, harry, is, is his ability to speak , or shall we say, to in speak, or shall we say, to in vent. that's okay.
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>> and we did we did we also we've done a lot of reaching out to archewell this evening, but we also reached out to archewell about whether or not it's a war was paid for. they categorically deny you know, that's deny it. but, you know, that's where are . thank you very where we are. thank you very much, of you. lady much, both of you. that's lady colin campbell and phil dampier. much, both of you. that's lady colirevening'sl and phil dampier. much, both of you. that's lady colirevening's royal phil dampier. much, both of you. that's lady colirevening's royal mastermind.. this evening's royal mastermind. now, the archbishop now, coming up, the archbishop of justin welby, is facing of woke, justin welby, is facing calls claims that calls to quit over claims that he backed the disgraced former post office chief, paula vennells, be bishop of vennells, to be bishop of london. should he hang up the dog collar. we will get stuck into that. but next we bring you the liveliest pay per view on british kelly, as tonight's panel of expert pundits run through the first tomorrow's panel of expert pundits run throu pages first tomorrow's panel of expert pundits run throu pages , irst tomorrow's panel of expert pundits run throu pages , the tomorrow's panel of expert pundits run throu pages , the rwanda'row's front pages, the rwanda rebellion is sure to be splattered across just about all of them, and we have got the inside scoop on every single aspect of its patrick christys tonight. only gb news
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tonight and it's only on gb news. now it's time to bring you tomorrow's news tonight, in the liveliest paper review, you will get on the very get anywhere on telly. the very first pages just been first front pages have just been delivered pack. delivered for my press pack. i'll go with the . independent i'll go with the. independent their pm rocked by shock resignations over his rwanda migrant bill. double blow to sunak's authority . sorry, it's sunak's authority. sorry, it's not shock resignation. he gave them an ultimatum which will sack you all. you quit and they quit, they? anyway, trump quit, didn't they? anyway, trump wins well . uh, next wins iowa as well. uh, next we've what the? the metro. we've got what the? the metro. i'm just going to read it out. or the guardian. pm faces revolt on rwanda plans a senior tories quit gaza facing famine as food crisis deepens as well. quite a lot here about fujitsu saying that it should pay redress to victims. the technology firm fujitsu admitted yesterday for the first time that it should pay the first time that it should pay redress to victims of the post office scandal, as well . post office scandal, as well. i'm going to read the metro out here, fujitsu boss. we will pay
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up . uh, post office horizon up. uh, post office horizon scandal . uh, that is just, you scandal. uh, that is just, you know, rumbling on big time. the boss of the it giant did basically admit that they knew there were problems with the system , and yet they still system, and yet they still proceeded with prosecutions. but the story that i'm going zone the story that i'm going to zone in in the in on tonight is in the telegraph . um, it's not this telegraph. um, it's not this one, though . 60 tories turn on one, though. 60 tories turn on pm in rwanda rebellion yet we know about that. we've been talking about lot. is talking about that a lot. is this the bottom here this one at the bottom here strict artist, head teacher in high for muslim high court for banning muslim prayer. so britain's strictest head teacher is in a row with muslim pupils over a decision to impose a prayer ban. the michaela community school in brent, north west london, which is run by katharine birbalsingh , is run by katharine birbalsingh, the government's former social mobility tsar, is now facing a high court challenge from a muslim pupil over its prayer policy . the school has faced an policy. the school has faced an onune policy. the school has faced an online campaign over its approach to religion, as well as threats of violence, abuse and
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false allegations of islamophobia. suzanne i'll start with you on this. um i mean, this is quite remarkable turn of events. so it appears that they've banned the muslim prayer in this school. >> it's quite interesting. i mean, obviously, this just mean, obviously, this is just landed. trying landed. so i'm trying to make head it, it seems head or tail of it, and it seems to me that what's happening is that have been that there seems to have been almost been almost the prayer has been politicised , i think, by some politicised, i think, by some students that seems to be the, the the ban was the reason why the ban was imposed. and we've certainly seen this among among adults. i think and clearly if you're praying at certain times in the day and disrupting the school day, why the day, that appears to be why the ban brought in. i would ban has been brought in. i would not to be the this not want to be the judge in this one, obviously not want to be the judge in this one, school obviously not want to be the judge in this one, school has obviously not want to be the judge in this one, school has a obviously not want to be the judge in this one, school has a rightusly not want to be the judge in this one, school has a right to y got the school has a right to run the school as it sees fit and interests of all run the school as it sees fit an
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telegraph who could this be? told the telegraph it is deeply concerning the school is concerning that the school is being court what concerning that the school is beclearly court what concerning that the school is beclearly legitimate what concerning that the school is beclearly legitimate policy. hat is clearly legitimate policy. it's clearly being weaponised , it's clearly being weaponised, which is a brilliant school, doing a brilliant job for his pupils with a fantastic headmistress should should a school run will be able to clamp down on the muslim prayer. well the school should be able to set its policies. >> the headteacher should be able to set that school's policy . think actually a . i think suella is actually a governor time governor once upon a time of this if remember this school, if i remember rightly knows it well rightly so. she knows it well and i haven't. i've been invited but but but the but the important thing is that you get people from all sorts of backgrounds. some of the most depnved in backgrounds. some of the most deprived in london deprived communities in london choosing this school. people have choice to go a great have the choice to go to a great school, and that's thanks to some great some good leadership, some great teachers , and a strict approach teachers, and a strict approach to education. and parents, of course, have the choice to choose else and it's choose somewhere else and it's up to the parents of these children to choose a school that agrees , uh, you know, with their agrees, uh, you know, with their own ethos . and if the policies
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own ethos. and if the policies in one school aren't for them, then that's fine, but they can go somewhere else. >> don't actually know whether >> i don't actually know whether you've to your child >> i don't actually know whether you' a to your child >> i don't actually know whether you' a schoolo your child >> i don't actually know whether you' a school in your child >> i don't actually know whether you' a school in london child into a school in london recently, you don't get recently, but you don't get a lot of in you get lot of choice. in fact, you get almost no choice because they lot of choice. in fact, you get aln sot no choice because they lot of choice. in fact, you get aln so oversubscribed. use they lot of choice. in fact, you get aln so oversubscribed. use tithis are so oversubscribed. now, this is a the good ones, the good ones, all them. some ones, all of them. some of the rubbish my are rubbish ones near my house are oversubscribed. and the point with it's quite with this school it's quite a famous one, is that the that famous one, is that the way that they've to get decent they've managed to get decent results in results is by being in incredibly strict, like unbelievably strict. thing is unbelievably strict. my thing is it's up as a success by it's held up as a success by a lot of talk , a lot of tories. lot of talk, a lot of tories. it's not successful if you can only these results by not only get these results by not allowing children pray and allowing children to pray and what what lawyer for what the what the lawyer for this wants is for children this child wants is for children to allowed to pray for five to be allowed to pray for five minutes lunch time. so that's minutes at lunch time. so that's their . we're not talking their time. we're not talking about out double about getting out of double maths have quick maths to go and have a quick hail mary and on dates when faith require it . now faith rules require it. now it's not reasonable to say , and i not reasonable to say, and i went catholic school where went to catholic school where people i went to catholic boarding where people who boarding school where people who were able to were jewish would be able to observe holidays. observe jewish high holidays. you have to accept it. and if the you can good
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the only way you can get good behaviour crushing people behaviour is by crushing people into the and not letting into the ground and not letting them religious freedoms, into the ground and not letting them not religious freedoms, into the ground and not letting them not doing ous freedoms, into the ground and not letting them not doing ougood doms, into the ground and not letting them not doing ougood job. s, you're not doing a good job. >> but isn't the point here that parents do have a choice as well? really well? they don't really particularly they should, but they really. they they don't really. they do. children here are travelling miles to go to that school. they're choosing not to go to their local school. there has been an active choice from their parents that's and parents can choose else. look, choose somewhere else. now look, l, choose somewhere else. now look, i, i might happen to agree with you on religious freedom, but that's from that's a different matter from allowing a school to determine its policies . its own policies. >> think of they have >> i think in terms of they have some that some quite mad policies that i would my child, would never want for my child, like for like you can get detention for looking window. no, that looking out the window. no, that is if you is a personal choice. if you think needs kind think your child needs that kind of management. think of behaviour management. i think you should started you should have started your parenting life, you should have started your parethat's life, you should have started your parethat's choice. life, you should have started your parethat's choice. lithis but that's your choice. but this is religious. this is is about religious. this is about individual person's religion. >> same , >> the principle is the same, which school can set its which is the school can set its policy you. policy for you. >> you not think, >> but do you not think, particularly children particularly when these children are when are 14, 15 years old, when your relationship is relationship with your god is your don't get your choice? you don't get a choice school go to. choice on what school you go to. the principle at stake here, the principle is should
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principle at stake is should a school be to set its about school be able to set its about so going some so i'm just going to read some more out from article. more out from this article. >> about students >> now. about 30 students began praying quotes. >> now. about 30 students began praying dirty quotes. >> now. about 30 students began praying dirty yard quotes. >> now. about 30 students began praying dirty yard in quotes. >> now. about 30 students began praying dirty yard in marches. >> now. about 30 students began praying dirty yard in march last wet and dirty yard in march last yean wet and dirty yard in march last year, blazers to kneel as year, using blazers to kneel as they were not permitted to bring in prayer mats. uh lawyers, rebellion goes. >> really fags around >> it's not really fags around the of the bike is the back of the bike sheds is it? badass. going it? we're so badass. we're going to is of rebellion , to pray is a kind of rebellion, though, isn't it? but that's teenagers . they should rebel. teenagers. they should rebel. that's the point of being young. i they're it. i love that they're doing it. i think bit lame as think it's a bit lame as rebellion i love that rebellion goes, but i love that they've a cause. yeah, okay. they've got a cause. yeah, okay. >> can't teenagers >> but you can't let teenagers get every get away with every with every rebel that has a cause. >> i mean, there is another side to glass bottles to this, which is glass bottles were over school were thrown over the school railings was put railings and a brick was put through one of the teachers windows, staff quite windows, leaving staff quite fearing for their lives. as a result down on on result of clamping down on on prayer, police had to report, had to respond claims of had to respond to claims of bombs being placed at the school . i this isn't normal. no . i mean, this isn't normal. no that's not normal. that's not that's not normal. that's not that's normal that's not normal. >> different >> but that's very different from children wanting >> but that's very different fro pray, children wanting >> but that's very different fropray, is, children wanting >> but that's very different fropray, is, adultsen wanting >> but that's very different fropray, is, adults ,| wanting >> but that's very different fropray, is, adults , inanting to pray, that is, adults, i think almost certainly. yeah, but this just happening all think almost certainly. yeah, but time just happening all think almost certainly. yeah, but time jus'isn't pening all think almost certainly. yeah, but time jus'isn't it?|ing all the time now, isn't it? >> happens the
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>> whenever it happens all the time, grammar school time, the batley grammar school incident, absolute incident, you know, absolute shocker that that teacher there is still in, um, protective custody or whatever you want to call you know, it just seems call it. you know, it just seems that when you know, that whenever, when you know, the guards. turned at some the guards. i turned up at some protest outside of, uh, school protest outside of, uh, a school hall, uh, which was about the palestine. there was a supposedly palestinian child there who wasn't allowed to wear a flag . an adults mob up outside a flag. an adults mob up outside . and you know why? why are adults so touchy about about the muslim faith, the whole trojan horse , trojan horse, school horse, trojan horse, school issue ? issue? >> um, when you know , some >> um, when you know, some muslim governors tried to take over the running of the school . yeah. >> and there is also a continued issue as well. there's a continued issue with the opposition to sex education being taught schools, being taught in schools, which is and must be is essential. and must be taught. i'm not suggesting taught. so i'm not suggesting for a second that this is this is issue, but in this is not an issue, but in this specific the right pray, specific one, the right to pray, i human i think, is another human rights. the by children. i think, is another human righ it the by children. i think, is another human righ it is the by children. i think, is another human righit is a the by children. i think, is another human righit is a rightie by children. i think, is another human righit is a right your children. i think, is another human righit is a right your chlllwlth but it is a right you start with one fundamental right and everybody agrees. >> suddenly the wedge >> and then suddenly the wedge gets thicker and thicker and
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other things in. so other things come in. um, so they the school they want to change the school uniform policy . perhaps uniform policy. perhaps they want way want to change to the way religious assemblies run. want to change to the way religall s assemblies run. want to change to the way religall those mblies run. want to change to the way religall those thing,; run. want to change to the way religall those thing, it's run. want to change to the way religall those thing, it's like. want to change to the way religall those thing, it's like a but all those thing, it's like a thin end of wedge argument. thin end of the wedge argument. >> i see point, but i think >> i see your point, but i think there's very there's i think there's are very different me also different things. and to me also it's telling must be it's telling that that must be other in this other religious people in this school who also must be given the right jewish children, must be take yom be allowed to take off yom kippur. um, catholics must be able to only eat fish on fridays. how you have to allow for it. >> yeah, that's fine, taking >> yeah, that's fine, but taking one day off, that's a specific religious very religious holiday is very different from having major different from having a major interruption in the day interruption in the school day every okay every day. okay >> all right. well, look, we've still quite bit cram >> all right. well, look, we've still the quite bit cram >> all right. well, look, we've still the final bit cram >> all right. well, look, we've still the final section cram >> all right. well, look, we've still the final section of ram >> all right. well, look, we've still the final section of this into the final section of this show failed london mayor show because failed london mayor sadiq exposed for sadiq khan is exposed for wasting millions of pounds of pubuc wasting millions of pounds of public on beach parties, public money on beach parties, drag and bicycle ballet. it drag acts and bicycle ballet. it is a sinister sign of the spending to come under a labour government . i'm also going to be government. i'm also going to be talking about why there are now calls for the archbishop of woke , resign and , justin welby, to resign and find out who i crown as tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. but yes, next
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tonight's panel, they're about tonight's panel, they're about to run through some more of tomorrow's front page and debate whether justin welby whether or not justin welby should finally call it day. should finally call it a day. i'll in a .
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tick well, welcome back to patrick christys tonight. it's time to return to our paper review. i've got some more front pages right here. hot off the press . start here. hot off the press. start with the mirror. fujitsu knew their faulty system was destroying lives and they went ahead with prosecutions. anyway that's the latest in the subpostmasters scandal . the sun subpostmasters scandal. the sun why did authorities not save tragic toddler little boy in the pudsey pyjamas ? left to starve pudsey pyjamas? left to starve to death in britain a really devastating story. there a boy of two starved to death next to his dad's body after social services missed chances to save
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him . i mean grief, the daily him. i mean grief, the daily express pm's last ditch plea to rebels come together on rwanda plan. the times sunak hit by resignations and biggest rebellion yet. it's our moral duty to compensate post masters is the other story. so there is a kind of recurrent theme on the vast of, uh, the front . vast majority of, uh, the front. pages. so i'm joined again by my press pack. we got political commentator suzanne evans, former environment secretary ranil author ranil jayawardene, and author and rebecca reid. and journalist rebecca reid. now, a story that's on the inside of one of the papers tomorrow is the archbishop of canterbury under canterbury is coming under increased pressure to resign after disgraced after supporting disgraced former post ceo paula former post office ceo paula vennells to become bishop of london. reverend justin welby personally endorsed vennells after she was shortlisted back in 2017. two years after the post office halted prosecutions of postmasters writing on his personal facebook, the late queen elizabeth's former chaplain, reverend canon jeremy haslach, said surely this is the point at which welby must go his
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backing for this woman for an episcopal office shows how completely he fails to understand the nature of the office. suzanne i'll start with you. look, should, should, should welby resigned, do you think? >> oh, why not? there are so many reasons welby should resign, i think why not add this one to the list? you know , he one to the list? you know, he closed churches during covid without murmur. weren't without a murmur. they weren't even during great even shut during the great plague london. a ridiculous plague of london. a ridiculous thing to do. he lectures us about immigration. he lectures us about climate change, despite the he 11 years the fact he spent 11 years working oil industry. working in the oil industry. remember basically remember when he basically called nigel farage a racist for highlighting how women were being abused by illegal migrants in cologne? on new year's eve? i mean, there so many reasons mean, there are so many reasons why should go. so yeah, why the man should go. so yeah, yeah , you'd him you'd yeah, you'd get him out, you'd biff him to. >> what do think? i mean , >> what do you think? i mean, it's, uh. yeah. you think he it's, uh. yeah. do you think he should ? should go? >> well, the parochial >> well, i'm on the parochial church council of my own village church. you? and i can tell church. are you? and i can tell you a load of people think he should but not only
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should be going, but not only not just for this, but for countless other issues. as suzanne i look, i've suzanne says. i mean, look, i've sympathy , um, with him because sympathy, um, with him because he wasn't in the position to ask all the questions of paula vennells at that time. but i think some of the decisions he's taken and some of the appointments made are appointments he's made are really paula really questionable. and paula vennells really is the person who should be looking very deeply at her own. >> the church england saying deeply at her own. >>something1 england saying deeply at her own. >>something1 englarlines'ing on something along the lines of £10 billion worth reserves, £10 billion worth of reserves, which when which is remarkable when you see that parishes are that local parishes actually are really struggling. and there was even local even talk as well about local parishes going on strike because they they weren't getting pay rises. the church also has invested in things like arms manufacturers or the oil and gas industry, despite some of the, you know. well, well, i was going to say virtues tickling. but i suppose it is these dished out. so think, know, just out. so i think, you know, just just in here, you know, just in welby here, you know, you're expressing support you're expressing his support for post office boss. for a former post office boss. i mean, what do you think rebecca is? final straw . is? this is the final straw. >> i don't think he knew the situation. think i think, like situation. i think i think, like everybody else, i'm very aware. and from a religious family. how
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disliked is and everybody disliked he is and how everybody i think would like him to go. most would to most people would like him to go. i think this is actually a bit it on. bit of a thing to hang it on. i'm this is the reason i'm not sure this is the reason he should go. i think people i'm not sure this is the reason he sdon't go. i think people i'm not sure this is the reason he sdon't go. him.ik people i'm not sure this is the reason he but1't go. him.ik people i'm not sure this is the reason he but the |o. him.ik people i'm not sure this is the reason he but the |o. hirthingeople i'm not sure this is the reason he but the |o. hirthing though, i'm not sure this is the reason he ehasn't |o. hirthing though, i'm not sure this is the reason he ehasn't he hirthing though, i'm not sure this is the reason he ehasn't he hirtianythingjh, why hasn't he said anything about been to about this? i've been trying to find statements. he's find public statements. he's made post office. it's made about the post office. it's hard i've not hard to my knowledge. i've not seen i don't. i think seen anything i don't. i think he's about it. insane. >> yeah, and we're just gonna do a little one to fit in for you now, because after a labour run, councils in nottingham and birmingham went bust last year, shocking new data has revealed that collectively, all uk councils authorities councils and local authorities are a whopping £122 billion in debt. it comes as local government leaders warned that they've had to increase tax bills and cut services to balance the books. we deployed our intrepid reporter, will hollis, to nottingham to ask locals if they get enough bang for their buck when it comes to their council tax . their council tax. >> so tax goes up year in, year out. but but the labour run council keeps cutting back on
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services . they've shut services. they've shut libraries. shaw start centres sir shambles actually you know we've got potholes everywhere. >> you know it's broke my suspension on my car. you know a lot of the services are not just active and just can't believe the council are 100 million in debt. >> the they just don't do their job do they ? job do they? >> it's not just nottingham council. >> it's all of them. >> it's all of them. >> it's all of them. >> i could do a betterjob than them. >> ronald. is this just a sign of what life would be like under a labour government? you know, billions of pounds worth of debt, even more than we've got now? >> yes. and the mismanagement of pubuc >> yes. and the mismanagement of public funds, i mean , in public funds, i mean, in warrington, it's extraordinary to look at what they've been doing. they've been putting money supermarkets in money into supermarkets in manchester for solar farms in york, hull and cirencester , a bt york, hull and cirencester, a bt building in salford and a third of a bank. they've bought. i mean, it's extraordinary. this is taxpayers money. it is possible to run a council in a commercial way. it is possible
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to invest in your own area to grow and that's grow the economy, and that's a good thing. but i mean, i look at of my own local councils , at one of my own local councils, lib hart district lib dem run hart district council . they've decided to council. they've decided to invest in an office block in the other end of hampshire. that's not growth other end of hampshire. that's notthe growth other end of hampshire. that's notthe people growth other end of hampshire. that's notthe people locally. growth other end of hampshire. that's notthe people locally. that'srth for the people locally. that's not people want . yeah, but not what people want. yeah, but it's just labour, i'm afraid. >> ran on my own council . >> ran on my own council. shropshire. they bought three shopping centres for 51 million. four years later they were worth 12.5. i mean, it was insane. i've been a councillor for in the london borough of merton. i can tell you just how much money is wasted. it's extraordinary. i remember they wanted to replace all the windows of the civic centre. they got a quote 12 centre. they got a quote for 12 million. said, too much million. i said, that's too much . enough, they came . and funnily enough, they came back i back with a fresh quote. i managed them 5 million, managed to save them 5 million, you , they nobody asked you know, they just nobody asked questions . councillors don't do questions. councillors don't do their either . they don't ask. >> council starts going up and up up. i think it's i think up and up. i think it's i think it's uncontroversial that it's pretty uncontroversial that most people feel like the most people don't feel like the game their buck. game bang for their buck. >> i actually i'm >> i actually feel like i'm in that rare period of my life where a lot of bang for
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where i do get a lot of bang for my because i in my buck because i live in wandsworth, the wandsworth, which has the cheapest go cheapest council tax, and i go to time to the library all the time because small child, because i have a small child, and also there lot of and also there are a lot of nurseries, a lot of, um, young person of health person centres, a lot of health visitation. so i think there is a penod visitation. so i think there is a period in your a very brief period in your life where child and where you have a young child and you youngish. you do you are fairly youngish. you do get of but you are fairly youngish. you do get not of but you are fairly youngish. you do get not sure of but you are fairly youngish. you do get not sure you of but you are fairly youngish. you do get not sure you get: but you are fairly youngish. you do get not sure you get much|t you are fairly youngish. you do get not sure you get much else i'm not sure you get much else either side. >> you will you will at some point of this current point grow out of this current cushy. for now, you're in. >> now, if they close down my library, >> now, if they close down my libryeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you've grown out of your >> so you've grown out of your immigration grow immigration stance. you'll grow out of your council stance. >> libraries , it's just >> but the libraries, it's just so nice. >> all right? right, right. look, we're gonna have to rattle through it's through this, okay? but it's time today's time now to reveal today's greatest britain and union jackass. greatest britain and union jackass . excuse me. so um, jackass. excuse me. so um, suzanne, we'll start with you. your greatest britain >> so my greatest britain today is an honorary one. it's javier milei , the president of milei, the president of argentina, because he's going to davos and he's taken an ordinary economy flight there to shake up the global private jet setting elite with the message of freedom from socialist ideology, which he says only brings misery to the world.
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>> strong start . >> all right, strong start. >> all right, strong start. >> raducanu for her >> ronald emma raducanu for her win. uh, and a great return. >> yeah. okay. uh rebecca, in the grand tradition of things that people watching really won't understand , won't care about or understand, um, teletubby baby, the girl um, the teletubby baby, the girl whose face was the baby in the sun had her own first child. sun has had her own first child. >> isn't that nice? >> oh, isn't that nice? >> oh, isn't that nice? >> one. what i remember the >> the one. what i remember the teletubbies . teletubbies. >> the baby with the face. the face and the baby on the telly. the suns in the sun. all right, all right, all right. >> look, it's not okay >> look, it's not that. okay it's that. obviously it's not that. okay? obviously suzanne liked her. today's greatest britain is honorary javier milei for turning up at davos and trying to stick it to them. and now we're going to go to union jack carson. >> so again , it's sadiq khan , >> so again, it's sadiq khan, uh, this time, this time for wasting taxpayers money on beach parties, vaginal moisturiser adverts. i hope i can say that on late night telly, isn't it? drag axe and bicycle ballet. could you just so. >> okay so okay, fine . um, >> okay so okay, fine. um, ronald, who's your your union jack. >> his best bud, mark drakeford ,
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>> his best bud, mark drakeford, uh, who has brought in all those 20 mile per hour speed limits that sadiq copied in london, and now he's going to be driving off into the sunset and forgetting about them. um lee anderson and brendan clarke—smith bailing out. >> just. i just can't do another election . if this helps lead to election. if this helps lead to that, i'll be very cross for another that, i'll be very cross for anolier that, i'll be very cross for anal can't, right? that, i'll be very cross for anal can't, right ? okay. >> i can't, all right? okay. today is uni jackass is mark today is uni and jackass is mark drakeford . there we go. it's drakeford. there we go. it's always a toss up between him and sadiq, but he's won it this morning, sadiq. tomorrow so there go. look, thank you morning, sadiq. tomorrow so theremuch.>. look, thank you morning, sadiq. tomorrow so theremuch. my look, thank you morning, sadiq. tomorrow so theremuch. my wonderfulink you morning, sadiq. tomorrow so theremuch. my wonderful panel. very much. my wonderful panel. i've evening i've really enjoyed this evening . that you keep it . and make sure that you keep it gb news. because gb news. okay. because headliners with headliners are up next with a slightly depth look at headliners are up next with a sligofly depth look at headliners are up next with a sligof tomorrow'siepth look at headliners are up next with a sligof tomorrow's newspaperat all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages and what's inside the book. as well. i will see you tomorrow . take it easy. you tomorrow. take it easy. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good evening, alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast . but it is weather forecast. but it is going to be cold tonight. and
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with that, the risk of some harsh frost, patches harsh frost, icy patches and a little bit of further a little bit of further snow. a low pressure system across northern the uk today northern parts of the uk today brought some significant snow . brought some significant snow. here however, the worst of that is clearing away towards the east just some outbreaks of east with just some outbreaks of rain, or pushing rain, sleet or snow pushing their way southwards across parts northern central parts of northern central england . as we go england and wales. as we go through this evening and overnight, of this breaking overnight, most of this breaking up, it goes further up, though, as it goes further north, clearer skies for many but feeding but some snow showers feeding in particularly to northern parts of under those clear of scotland under those clear skies, plummeting skies, temperatures plummeting some places could into some places could fall into negative double figures, so a widespread, frost and some widespread, harsh frost and some icy patches to watch out for as we go through wednesday . there we go through wednesday. there is towards the south of is a system towards the south of us. a bit of us. this may bring a bit of rain, perhaps some sleet or snow to southern counties , to immediate southern counties, but us it is but for most of us it is actually going largely actually going to stay largely dry. of winter sunshine dry. plenty of winter sunshine on tomorrow , but there on offer tomorrow, but there will snow showers will be some snow showers feeding down brisk feeding down on a brisk northerly wind , mainly affecting feeding down on a brisk northerly scotland. ainly affecting feeding down on a brisk northerlyscotland. despite acting feeding down on a brisk northerlyscotland. despite the|g northern scotland. despite the sunshine, though, it is going to feel cold temperatures generally sunshine, though, it is going to feel getting1peratures generally sunshine, though, it is going to feel getting1pfewures generally sunshine, though, it is going to
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feel getting1pfew degreesarally sunshine, though, it is going to feel getting1pfew degrees above only getting a few degrees above freezing. more fine sunny weather to come as we go through thursday, but we stick that thursday, but we stick with that brisk so brisk northerly wind, so more snow showers across northern parts perhaps parts of scotland, perhaps northern ireland, and some western coastal western and eastern coastal parts could see some wintry showers a time. most inland showers for a time. most inland areas, though staying and areas, though staying dry and fine weather to fine with more fine weather to come we go through friday. come as we go through friday. but and but turning wet, windier and milder by the weekend. a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .
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gb news you're with gp news, it's 11:00. >> there were extraordinary scenes in the house of commons this afternoon. parliamentary amendments tabled to strengthen the government's rwanda bill were defeated. our political editor christopher hope, explains a difficult night then, for the pm. >> rishi sunak and his rwanda plan, with 62 tory mps, two independents and eight dup mps voting for amendments to try and strengthen his plan, they weren't impressed by the remarks. from the prime minister to gb news on monday, making clear he would overrule european judges which try and frustrate the will of the uk government in sending illegally arrived migrants who arrived here by boat back to rwanda. there has been some casualties too. we have seen the resignations of both lee anderson and brendan
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clarke—smith, two deputy chairmen of the tory party and later tonight, the resignation of jane stevenson, a parliamentary private secretary to kemi badenoch . so food for to kemi badenoch. so food for thought overnight for government whips and for mr sunak and his team as we go into a key day tomorrow when more amendments are voted on. but crucially, if the bill remains unamended , the bill remains unamended, there will be a third reading tomorrow night and that vote could be lost unless whips and the pm maybe himself personally , the pm maybe himself personally, can persuade some of those 60 or so tory mps not to vote the bill down on wednesday night. full coverage of that vote tomorrow. >> right here gb news now , also >> right here gb news now, also today in the post office scandal , a fujitsu boss accused the post office of knowing about bugs and errors in the horizon it system. the business and trade committee heard from key figures involved in the post office scandal, including a fujitsu executive called paul patterson . he apologised and
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patterson. he apologised and admitted

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