a single broken scrapping over a single broken comb . comb. >> but as the crunch rwanda votes approach this afternoon , votes approach this afternoon, gb news can exclusively reveal that a further seven seven boats, seven boats cross the channel this morning, bringing around 300 further illegal migrants to the uk. >> the pressure truly is mounting and the tragic story of a toddler found starved, starved to death next to his dead father in lincolnshire. >> serious questions are now being asked of social services and how involved they should have been . we'll bring you the have been. we'll bring you the details . details. >> well, it was quite a boisterous pmqs. >> who do you think came out on top .7 top? >> it's really interesting. it felt like it was the first election pmqs we heard some lines that could well be brought again and again and again ,

again and again and again, particularly rishi sunak going after sir keir starmer's past as after sir keir starmer's past as a human rights lawyer. i think that's something that we're going to hear time and time again. referred to sir again. he even referred to sir keir starmers legal advice that he gave to that now banned islamist group hizb ut—tahrir. >> i mean, it's not a great look , is it.7 >> no, i know that everyone has a right to a criminal defence. of course they do. but it's not great. no, if you're the person who represented are now proscribed terror group . proscribed terror group. >> and it was odd to see sir keir starmer's response being i never represented them in court. well you gave them legal advice out of court. it seems like a very odd way to sort of try and wiggle your way out it. wiggle your way out of it. it would a defence to would be a stronger defence to say, , i'm a lawyer, i say, look, i'm a lawyer, i represent. what represent. that's what lawyers do. sort of do. but but he tried to sort of wiggle and well, there's a question is a fair line of question is it a fair line of attack from rishi sunak sir attack from rishi sunak on sir keir starmer , or do you think keir starmer, or do you think maybe sounds a little desperate? >> let us know. vaiews@gbnews.com. but shall we get your headlines with sophia ?

get your headlines with sophia? thanks emily. >> good afternoon. it's 1:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the rwanda plan's been described as a farce, with the labour leader accusing the government of losing asylum seekers . sir government of losing asylum seekers. sir keir government of losing asylum seekers . sir keir starmer seekers. sir keir starmer criticised the prime minister ahead of a crucial vote, which has already seen a major tory rebellion during pmqs, the labour leader said £400 million had been spent not flying anyone to rwanda while questioning how the government could lose contact with more than 4000 people earmarked for removal. >> only this government could claim that it's going to get flights off the ground only to discover they couldn't find a plane, only. only this government could sign a removal deal with rwanda , only to end up deal with rwanda, only to end up taking people from rwanda to here. but. but he still hasn't answered the question. so i'll try again. what progress has he

made in locating . the 4250 made in locating. the 4250 people his government is apparently lost. he's dodged it three times. >> where are they ? it. >> where are they? it. >> where are they? it. >> it is a bit rich to hear him in here, pretending that he cares about how we actually stop the boats when he's been crystal clear. he's been crystal clear and said that even if the plan is working to reduce the numbers, he would still scrap it. mr speaker, it's because he has no values, no conviction , has no values, no conviction, and no plan in his back to square one. square one. >> square one. >> and ahead of the rwanda vote, for critical the pm's stop the boats policy , seven small boats policy, seven small vessels have been intercepted trying to cross the channel today. trying to cross the channel today . around 300 people have today. around 300 people have now been brought to dover , even now been brought to dover, even as the weather continues to deteriorate. the latest arrivals are the first since the weekend and after five people drowned just off the french coast , the just off the french coast, the family of a toddler whose body has been found next to his dead father , have accused social

father, have accused social services of failing to save him. two year old bronson battersby is thought to have starved to death after his dad, kenneth, suffered a heart attack at their home in skegness. the sun newspaper says they were last seen alive on boxing day. social workers reportedly visited the property on the 2nd of january, but it was another five days before police discovered their bodies. their deaths are not being treated as suspicious . the being treated as suspicious. the daughter of murdered mp sir david amess is suing essex police and the home office. sir david was stabbed to death in his constituency , kc in leigh on his constituency, kc in leigh on sea, in october 2021. a court was told. ali harbi ali, who was given a whole life time for the murder, was a home—grown terrorist who was known to authorities. katie amos has filed a personal injury claim , filed a personal injury claim, saying she wants to ensure proper accountability and learning her father's learning from her father's murder . the learning from her father's murder. the in inflation unexpectedly rose to 4% last

month. the office for national statistics says the increase was dnven statistics says the increase was driven by higher tobacco and alcohol prices. there were some relief for households, though, with food rising at a slower rate and the cost of petrol falling. chancellor jeremy hunt falling. chancellorjeremy hunt insists the government's plan to fix the economy is working . fix the economy is working. >> inflation never falls in a straight line. we can see from the rest of the world. it's gone up in france , the united states up in france, the united states and the eurozone , but here in and the eurozone, but here in the uk it was 11.1% when rishi sunak became prime minister. it's more than halved. it's still nearly a percentage point lower than where the office for budget responsibility predicted it would be only in the autumn statement in november. so we have a plan. we've taken very difficult decisions to bring inflation down. that plan is working at stormont has been recalled for the sixth time in almost two years in a bid to restore power sharing the northern ireland assembly collapsed following the democratic unionist party's protest over post—brexit trading

arrangements . arrangements. >> the dup has since refused to vote for a speaker and is expected to use its veto to again block any vote today. they're facing a midnight deadune they're facing a midnight deadline to restore devolution under current legislation, but that could be extended to avoid a fresh election . fujitsu is a fresh election. fujitsu is being urged to make an initial £10 million payment to a fund for the victims of the horizon scandal. it's after the company's europe director admitted there was a moral obugafion admitted there was a moral obligation to contribute . but obligation to contribute. but paul paterson apologised for the appalling miscarriage of justice when he appeared before mps yesterday. hundreds of subpostmasters were convicted and wrongly accused of theft because of a fault in the it system . fujitsu is being asked system. fujitsu is being asked to make an initial payment by the end of this month . the end of this month. undercover police officers are wearing luxury watches as part of an operation to catch out thieves video released by the met police shows robbers trying to lure apparent victims into a false sense of security before trying to steal the items , as trying to steal the items, as other undercover officers then

pounce, apprehending the offenders . two operations were offenders. two operations were carried out in wealthy london boroughs, leading to more than 20 convictions. met commander for intelligence ben russell says the police tactics are working . working. >> we think this is organised crime, but it's pretty opportunist work. so there are groups of young men, mainly in their 20s and 30s, hanging around outside bars and clubs , around outside bars and clubs, spotting people, and they know what they're looking for. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to tom and . emily now it's back to tom and. emily >> well, this afternoon concludes the rwanda bills passage through the house of commons one way or the other, ahead of the voting showdown, rishi sunak battled with sir keir starmer in one of their most heated clashes yet. >> leader accused the >> the labour leader accused the prime minister of u—turning on his rwanda bill and being weak

in the face of rebellious mps , in the face of rebellious mps, rishi sunak waved prop as he rishi sunak waved a prop as he attacked sir keir starmer for his human rights lawyer, passed even got here the textbook that he authored for them and it's called and i quote european human rights law by keir starmer i >> -- >> so -- >>so. >> so . prime minister. >> so. prime minister. >> so. prime minister. >> prime minister when i stand up, please sit down. >> can i just say we don't use props in this house and i will certainly ensure that if you do need reminding, i certainly will. keir starmer, it's so he got a little bit of a telling off there from the speaker . off there from the speaker. >> i thought we were going to hear what keir starmer said in reply you tell reply anyway. but you can tell us keir say us what did sir keir starmer say in reply? >> said it was a pathetic >> he said it was a pathetic attempt but it is interesting. >> we're starting to see the prime minister bend the rules of the house of commons a little bit . big rule the house of commons a little bit. big rule against using

props to aid your speech . i props to aid your speech. i think one of the last times that happened was john mcdonnell, who waved mouths a little red book, and then threw it across the desk at george osborne, who was the then chancellor of the exchequer, an extraordinary scenes. scei'ies. >> scenes. >> i can imagine john mcdonnell walks around, you know, most days with mao's little red book back in his back pocket. >> you know, i'm looking forward. those were the days more sort of slight rule bending , tongue in cheek things. perhaps we're going to see more and more of this over the next nine or months. nine or so months. >> but what, rishi >> but you know what, rishi sunak did not answer that question the missing 4250 question about the missing 4250 migrants that were meant to be being deported to rwanda and he does not have an answer to that question, it would appear. >> yeah, we don't know where they let's get more this they are. let's get more on this now with gb news political correspondent katherine forster, who's at downing street for us. and catherine, this seemed and catherine, um, this seemed like it was a very election themed, uh , back and forth themed, uh, back and forth between sunak and starmer

pulling out some of those lines. we might hear again and again and again . and again. >> yes, indeed. but dominated really by the almighty row about rwanda now difficult answering keir starmer in pmqs and an absolute nightmare for rishi sunak today, trying to quell this rebellion, which, if the bill fails tonight, the safety of rwanda bill would plunge the government into chaos and really put rishi sunak on on borrowed time, i would suspect i don't think that's going to happen. probably but let's wait and see. we will know this evening. but in terms of prime minister's questions and sir keir starmer went against again and again and again , it was a bit like again, it was a bit like groundhog day on where are the 4250 people that were originally earmarked to go to rwanda? that the government has lost? he goes quite pithily. has he found them

yet? and next question where are they really highlighting the failure of the government to get people to rwanda? £400 million committed and home secretaries and galore being sent? not a single migrant . and that's the single migrant. and that's the difficulty , isn't it? the difficulty, isn't it? the government, desperate to get those flights off the ground. but the rebels are convinced that without toughening up the deal that without toughening up the deal, doomed to fail. other deal, it's doomed to fail. other people in the party and one on the right of the party telling me just a little bit earlier that never underestimate the conservatives party's capacity to rip itself apart. i said, you know, if they lose this vote, rishi sunak will be finished. and he said if they lose this vote, the conservative party will be finished. so sir keir starmer and there was a lot of laughter, a lot of laughter at rishi sunaks expense in the house of commons as derision really . and yes, of course, he really. and yes, of course, he tried to get back on track,

pointing out the achievements, pointing out the achievements, pointing out the achievements, pointing out inflation going in the right direction . okay, it's the right direction. okay, it's up point 1% today, pointing out the tax cuts that some would argue aren't really very much at all pointing out that he says the plan is working, saying that sir keir starmer has no plan, and pointing out too, of course, that if and i think it's a big if, the rwanda scheme does get up and running and that's sir keir starmer has already made it clear that if labour gets into power, they will scrap the whole thing entirely. so rishi sunak saying the labour don't have a plan, labour saying well, the conservatives have had a plan, it was called rwanda and look when an almighty mess that they are making of it, i mean, catherine, i think most people would like to know the answer to that question of where are these 4000 or so people that seem to have gone missing, but coming from keir starmer, not sure if everyone will take him so seriously when of course he has lent his name in the past, at

least to letters attempting to keep foreign criminals in this country to prevent them from being deported to jamaica . being deported to jamaica. >> so some people may have a rolled eye or two on that one. um, but where do we go from here? what actually is the likelihood of this bill not passing ? passing? >> i think it is likely that the bill will go through you all. there were 60 people yesterday, and supported the amendments, rebelling against the government. there's a big meeting and led by mark francois of the european research group happening at 5:00. but but voting for the amendments yesterday and voting the bill down today are two very different things because of the consequences if the bill gets voted down, there is no prospect of sending people to rwanda before the next election. they have nothing rishi sunak authority . we would be in authority. we would be in tatters . there'd be a potential tatters. there'd be a potential leadership challenge , change.

leadership challenge, change. labour would try to get a general election. it would be de chaos. so we know that there's about ten people have said they're going to vote against they're going to vote against the bill tonight. people like the bill tonight. people like the former immigration minister robert jenrick, former home secretary suella braverman and former minister simon clarke among them. but also of the 60 who rebelled yesterday, said all of them are now saying well , all of them are now saying well, all yeah, we don't like the bill as it stands, but better to have the bill and have some hope than no hope at all. people like michael fabricant , for instance, michael fabricant, for instance, i suspect there will be many more more of those who will quietly decide to, um, to bite their tongue and let this go through. but we won't have long to find out. and as one, um mp pointed out to me, a little bit earlier, it could be that the bill falls accidentally if a lot of people decide not to vote it down, but to rather abstain. and

that could ultimately mean that the bill failed. so we will find out this evening whether the bill goes through. of course, if it gets to the bill, it gets to the next stage. it has to do battle in the house of lords. >> hugely, hugely significant votes today. catherine, thank you much bringing that you so much for bringing that all think it's all to us. i think it's particularly interesting, emily, that those who are voting for the amendments, who voted for some of those amendments , who some of those amendments, who propose those amendments propose some of those amendments yesterday, jenrick, etc, yesterday, robert jenrick, etc, are not saying that the bill as written wouldn't work , work, written wouldn't work, work, they're it wouldn't they're just saying it wouldn't get along. they get enough people along. they accept that it would get some flights, they more flights, but they want more flights. a question flights. so if it's a question of three rather than of degree three rather than a question of whether this actually gets flights going or not, perhaps we'll see quite a few of those who voted for the amendments end up voting for the unamended bill. >> i think they will also, out of a sense of loyalty and collective government. do collective government. but i do think you think that actually they you know, want it want know, they want it want it to work for just a know, they want it want it to work forjust a couple of work not for just a couple of flights. i what's the

flights. i mean, what's the point? they want a full fat opfion point? they want a full fat option as the prime option anyway, as the prime minister faces another critical vote on the boats vote on his stop the boats policy today, gb news can exclusively reveal that a further seven small migrant exclusively reveal that a furthehavean small migrant exclusively reveal that a furthe have crossedl migrant exclusively reveal that a furthe have crossed the grant exclusively reveal that a furthe have crossed the english boats have crossed the english channel this morning . channel this morning. >> our provisional figure suggests around 300 people suggests that around 300 people crossed in those boats so far today. crossed in those boats so far today . hey, and marc white joins today. hey, and marc white joins us, our home and security editor marc, you have some further breaking news as well. >> yeah, we'll get to those small boat figures in a second. but i think this is very significant coming out of the world economic forum in davos, an interview with the rwandan president , paul an interview with the rwandan president, paul kagame, and it really speaks to issues that might be outside rishi sunak control here. if he gets this vote through the rwanda policy at the end of the day, are the rwandan government still going to continue being a partner to the uk? well, if you listen to what paul kagame has been saying

to the guardian newspaper, it would seem that he's deeply, deeply frustrated at the way things are going. he has said said that he would. there are limits, he says, to how far and how long this can drag on. and he added that he would be be, um, happy if the entire scheme was was scrapped. he then goes on to talk about the money and of course , we're estimating of course, we're estimating close to £400 million could be given to rwanda . uh, it's close given to rwanda. uh, it's close to 300 million already. dodi up to 300 million already. dodi up to 400 million over the next year or so. uh, paul kagame saying, well, clearly, if people , uh, don't come to rwanda , if , uh, don't come to rwanda, if the scheme doesn't go ahead , the scheme doesn't go ahead, then they would be to prepared return money to the uk . now, return money to the uk. now, it's unlikely that that would be all of the money, but perhaps some of the money that is going to look after those asylum seekers if they go to rwanda .

seekers if they go to rwanda. uh, but i think this is a very significant intervention from the rwandan president here, because it really speaks to the level of frustration i've been detecting it for some time about the reputational kicking that this east african country is taking over this scheme, uh, with all of these lawyers, human rights groups and the like, just lining up to really put the boot in to rwanda's reputation . um, in to rwanda's reputation. um, and describe this country clearly as a very unsafe place, uh, to send migrants to send asylum seekers. well, it seems that the rwandan president is utterly fed up with the way that this is going. he's saying there are limits and he would be happy he is telling the guardian newspaper , uh, if the scheme was newspaper, uh, if the scheme was scrap it entirely . scrap it entirely. >> so he stands . so he stands

>> so he stands. so he stands ready, essentially mark, to pull the plug on the whole scheme . if the plug on the whole scheme. if things continue to drag on. >> i think there's real tensions here. there's no doubt about it. the longer this drags on, the more they get criticised and they know now that they're going to be criticised again because, uh, if this vote passes, uh, it's got to go to the lords, of course. and eventually , if it course. and eventually, if it gets through at the end of the day, it's still going to be tested in the courts again. and what does that mean that's going to mean that the human rights lawyers and all of their backers are going to be up in the courts again . then reputationally again. then reputationally pummelling in to rwanda , uh, pummelling in to rwanda, uh, about its human rights record and whether it's a safe country. i think they are thoroughly , i think they are thoroughly, thoroughly fed up with the way that this has just dragged out. we're looking at almost two years since this was first announced under boris johnson , announced under boris johnson, his government in april of 2022, and not a single flight has gone to that country in all the

while, rwanda's reputation continues to be dragged through the mud . the mud. >> thanks. that's a really important insight to get the rwandan perspective on all this, with all the infighting. that's going on domestically and all the votes and going through the whole of the house of parliament, and remember that rwanda also may have a few things say, but imagine if things to say, but imagine if they pulled plug on the they pulled the plug on the scheme . scheme. >> at this stage, there's something everyone those something for everyone in those comments. those don't comments. for those that don't want the rwanda scheme to happen, look, we happen, they can say, look, we can and for can get our money back. and for those want rwanda those that do want the rwanda scheme can say, scheme to happen, they can say, look, need to now. look, we need to pass this now. otherwise they'll out and look, we need to pass this now. otrwon'te they'll out and look, we need to pass this now. otrwon't have 'll out and look, we need to pass this now. otrwon't have any out and look, we need to pass this now. otrwon't have any oof and we won't have any sort of deterrent sort place to deterrent, any sort of place to send , uh, refugees generally or send, uh, refugees generally or asylum seekers generally. >> yes . well, coming up, the >> yes. well, coming up, the toddler found starved to death next to his dead father in lincolnshire. serious questions are being asked of the social services. we will bring you the details next. this is good afternoon, britain on

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . good news. good afternoon britain. >> it's 1:25 news. good afternoon britain. >> it's1:25 and the uk's inflation rate unexpectedly rose from to 4% this morning, up by 0.1. that's according to official data from the office for national statistics. so here to break it down is of course, our economics and business

edhon our economics and business editor, liam halligan, with on the money . the money. >> there's been a surprise increase in uk inflation according to data out this morning . and that's not going to morning. and that's not going to do the government any favours. inflation doesn't fall in a straight line . we need to stick straight line. we need to stick to our plans, says chancellor jeremy hunt. but this is bad news for the tories , not least news for the tories, not least amidst this drama in the house of commons. let's have a look at the scores on the doors during the scores on the doors during the year to december 2023. the consumer price index, a basket of goods and services, was 4% higher than it was in december 2022. that's up from 3.9% in november. even though most economists expect inflation to fall . i should say, though, that fall. i should say, though, that inflation is much, much lower than it was back in october 2022 when we had that 11.1% 40 year high. although it's now still twice the bank of england's 2%

target by international standards, we are a high inflation economy. our 4% compares to eurozone inflation of 2.9% in december and us inflation of 3.4. britain tends to have very high energy costs , to have very high energy costs, not least for domestic gas and electricity. why is inflation rising? it's partly because alcohol and tobacco prices were 12.9% higher in december than in december 2022, partly because of government duty increases . government duty increases. clothing and footwear was 6.4% higher. that's higher than a 5.7% inflation number in november, and recreation and culture costs. they were also 5.7% higher, up from 5.3. the month before. you should note that mobile and broadband bills could be going up because of this december number. that's because many of the communications companies , communications companies, they're mid—contract price increases . these are calculated

increases. these are calculated by the december inflation number plus 4. so that's 3.9 plus four is 7.9. rising bills. plus 4. so that's 3.9 plus four is 7.9. rising bills . and that is 7.9. rising bills. and that can be expected from april. food price inflation though is down. and that's good news. in december it was 8% down from 9% in november because many supermarkets were discounting in the run up to christmas in general, though, food prices are still an eye—watering 30, up from where they were in october 2021. transport costs are down and that's good news. across the board. transport was 1.3% lower in december than it was in december 2022. that's because petrol was down 8.1% on the yean petrol was down 8.1% on the year, and diesel prices were 15.5% down. great news when you're filling up your car or your van, what does all this mean for interest rates? well the next bank of england monetary policy committee meeting is on thursday , the 1st

meeting is on thursday, the 1st of february. the mpc has held interest rates at 5.25% since august . mortgage companies have august. mortgage companies have already started discounting from that number because they expect interest rates to fall rapidly interest rates to fall rapidly in the months and years to come, but will mortgage rates keep falling now inflation has started to go back up again. one thing on the bank of england's mind are geopolitical risks. we could see a spike in the price of oil and gas, not least because of those attacks on freight shipping in the red sea leading to the suez canal, and also into and out of the persian gulf. those attacks , even though gulf. those attacks, even though we haven't seen an increase in oil and gas prices in particular, so far, they have led to freight shipping costs to double over the last month because of extra insurance and because of extra insurance and because freight shipping has to because freight shipping has to be diverted around the whole of the african continent . if it the african continent. if it can't go through the suez canal , can't go through the suez canal, and that will be inflationary . and that will be inflationary. so there has been a surprise rise , inflation and the labour

rise, inflation and the labour party , of course, is making hay party, of course, is making hay only labour can deliver the change. britain needs and make working people better off, says shadow chancellor rachel reeves. this cost of living squeeze, it's still very much with us and that's bad news for the tories . that's bad news for the tories. >> well, there's liam halligan of economics and business editor with the very latest on inflation up a little bit on last month. >> but of course that line down is not always smooth. as the chancellor said onto the horrific story of this two year old brunson battersby , now whose old brunson battersby, now whose family has have revealed was left to die alone from starvation with his body reportedly being found with his father kenneth's in their home in skegness, lincolnshire , in skegness, lincolnshire, earlier this month. >> yes , our reporter anna reilly >> yes, our reporter anna reilly joins us now from skegness . joins us now from skegness. anna, a tragic story. what do we know ?

know? >> such a tragic story, emily. >> such a tragic story, emily. >> yes, we know that two year old bronze battersby was reportedly found in his home here in skegness. starved to death next to his dead father, kenneth, on january the 9th, reports say that the toddler was curled up in his pudsey bear pyjamas with his dad, who had suffered a fatal heart attack , suffered a fatal heart attack, and that father and son were found dead two weeks on from last being seen alive on boxing day. >> it's believed that , um >> it's believed that, um bronson's 60 year old father, kenneth, had suffered with a pre—existing heart condition and that he'd become jaundiced in the months leading up to his death . and we know that bronson death. and we know that bronson was classified as vulnerable by social services, and that due to that, he received weekly visits from social workers . social from social workers. social workers had a pre—planned visit that they'd put in place with bronson's father, kenneth for

the 2nd of january, they arrive at the home but got no response , at the home but got no response, and they reported that to the police. then, two days later, they visited the home again. on january the fourth, but again got no response and flagged that on the same day, two police once more, but it wasn't until january the ninth that both father and son were tragically found dead after a social worker had obtained a key for the house from kenneth's landlord . and we from kenneth's landlord. and we know that the toddler's mother, according to reports at last saw her son before christmas after a row with bronson's father, and she told the newspaper the son that she believes is social services had done their job, that that bronson would still be alive and said i've had the results of the post—mortem. bronson starved to death because his dad died . they think kenneth his dad died. they think kenneth died no earlier than december the 29th. she also added we have to be able to rely on social

workers to keep our children safe. tributes have been flooding in for bronson and paying flooding in for bronson and paying tribute to bronson on facebook. the toddler's sister wrote beautiful little boy deserved so much better than this life. we love you bronson . this life. we love you bronson. forever a part of us and forever my baby brother . she wrote that my baby brother. she wrote that her head and heart were in pieces and she added a lot of anger inside . at the moment i anger inside. at the moment i just want to remember his little smile and soft nature instead. he was perfect and reportedly a friend of the family has also said that bronson adored nursery rhymes and often played his little tykes drum kit. the county council, lincolnshire county council, have confirmed that it's launched a rapid review into the events surrounding bronson son's death. they said that it's a tragic incident and that they're supporting the family at this time and carrying out a review of the case alongside partner agencies . no of the case alongside partner agencies. no date has yet been

set for bronson's inquest, and lincolnshire police have confirmed that investigation is have been carried out and that the deaths of bronson and kenneth are not being treated as suspicious as anna. >> thank you so much for bringing us this heart wrenching story live from skegness. >> yes, thank you anna. now, uh, still to come, the new police tactic being used to catch criminals who target people wearing luxury watches like rolexes. we'll get into that. but first, your news headlines with sophia . with sophia. >> thanks, emily. it's 133. with sophia. >> thanks, emily. it's133. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room. the rwanda plan has been described as a farce , with the described as a farce, with the labour leader accusing the government of losing asylum seekers . sir government of losing asylum seekers. sir keir government of losing asylum seekers . sir keir starmer seekers. sir keir starmer criticised the prime minister ahead of a crucial vote , which ahead of a crucial vote, which has already seen a major tory rebellion on during pmqs. sir

keir said £400 million had been spent not flying anyone to rwanda and he questioned how contact could have been lost with more than 4000 people earmarked for removal. rishi sunak defended the government's record and said his asylum plan will serve as a deterrent ahead of the rwanda vote critical to the pm's stop the boats policy. seven small vessels were intercepted trying to cross the channel today around 400 people have now been brought to dover , have now been brought to dover, even as the weather continues to deteriorate. the latest arrivals are the first since the weekend and after five people drowned just off the french coast . the just off the french coast. the family of two year old bronson battersbee , who is thought to battersbee, who is thought to have starved to death, say social missed social services missed opportunity to save him. the sun says the toddler's body was found to next his father, kenneth, who'd suffered a heart attack at their in skegness attack at their home in skegness . social workers reportedly visited the property on the 2nd of january, but it was another five days before police discovered their bodies . in an

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>> good afternoon britain. it's 20 to 2 and we're gearing up for an enormous showdown in the house of commons this afternoon . house of commons this afternoon. not just those final amendments being voted on, but the final commons vote for the rwanda legislation, too. could it pass or could it fall? well joining us now is the leader of ukip, neil hamilton, and the former labour mp bill rammell. neil hamilton, and the former labour mp bill rammell . um, and labour mp bill rammell. um, and neil, we'll start with you . do neil, we'll start with you. do you get the sense that this legislation will pass today or not? >> well, i have no idea because i'm, i never go to the house of commons anymore for, uh, but whether it does or not, what i'm sure is it won't work. whether it does or not, what i'm sure is it won't work . whether sure is it won't work. whether it passes or whether it doesn't , it passes or whether it doesn't, isn't going a ha'p'orth isn't going to make a ha'p'orth of either way. of of difference either way. of course, reason why course, that's the reason why the government the pickle the government is in the pickle that because i can't that it is, because i can't believe that the government itself really believes that this bill can make any meaningful

difference, particularly in the time about time frame we're talking about here, than here, which is less than 12 months government's months to the government's chances of winning next chances of winning the next election bill. >> you're nodding in what i presume dangerous agreement. well , i agreement. well, i mean, it is a gimmick >> well, i mean, it is a gimmick . it was a huge rebellion yesterday . 60 votes. i don't yesterday. 60 votes. i don't think there'll be anything like that number this evening . i that number this evening. i think it will get through its third reading. it doesn't deserve to because it is a gimmick. i'm struck as well by the extremism of some of the rebels. so i listen to lee anderson yesterday and he said , anderson yesterday and he said, i want to create a situation where nobody can come to this country illegally, and then claim asylum. well, every asylum seeker comes to this country illegally because they'll have forged in a false. >> but why is it extreme to say no one should come to the country illegal? lee i mean, that's illegal. that's the law. that's how the asylum system works. >> you filled in a false visa claim to come to this country. if arriving by plane if you're arriving by plane in those . and what those circumstances. and what he's effectively saying is, we should turn our back on the 1951

refugee i think that refugee convention i think that would be utterly wrong. but we do need to control immigration. and this bill is not doing it. neil, i've got to let you come back on that. >> well, i mean, the 1951 refugee convention explicitly says that if a refugee or intended somebody wants to claim refugee status comes to a country illegally, the government of the country to which he comes does have the right summarily to expel him or her, unless that's to a country where there is reasonable ground to believe that they might be persecuted. >> well, most of these, uh, illegal immigrants are coming from france, which is not a country in which anybody could say they're going to be persecuted. >> but that's the nub of the problem. rwanda isn't a safe country, and, you know, you need to be able to process the claims. and there's still a huge backlog of claims . and that's backlog of claims. and that's one of the biggest pull factors pulling asylum seekers toward this country. you need better returns .

returns. >> accessible country needs to be able to deport illegal migrants . migrants. >> well, you need to be able to process their claims and you think that the system should process any claim regardless of the mode of entry. >> and that could clog up the well and it is clogging. >> and that's what that's what we've got at the moment. what you've practically you've got to do is practically reduce the numbers. when we were in government, reduce the numbers. when we were in government , that's what we in government, that's what we did. illegal immigration was three and a half times less than it is today, and you need practical measures with regards to the boats. you need to be able tackle the boats able to tackle the boats upstream. and that means cooperation with europol and other countries in europe. we're not it and we're doing not doing it and we're not doing it effectively. you need to process claims. need process the claims. we need a thousand extra officers dealing with those , and need with those, and you need better returns know since, um, 1997, >> we know since, um, 1997, really immigration skyrocketed and well, particularly since 2004, actually, when the blair government took off well, opened the floodgates to immigration from eastern europe .

from eastern europe. >> but, i mean, the big problem in this country faces is not so much the illegals, but the legal migration. we're importing a city. the size of birmingham every two years. i'd just every two years. but i'd just like up one point that like to take up one point that bill made. i the pull bill made. i mean, the big pull factor only the factor isn't actually only the system for dealing with asylum claims. it's even if your claim is dealt with and refused, you're never sent back. i mean, overwhelmingly those whose claims are refused are not deported . and so the big pull deported. and so the big pull factor is they no get to the southern shores of england. you will be here forever. >> but, neil, isn't this the reason why a third safe country is being pursued by the government? >> it happens to be rwanda. rishi sunak once said he would want to do this in lots of countries. we know that when we got that, returns agreement signed with albania and we sent only back a few hundred , then only back a few hundred, then a few thousand, 90% fewer arrivals came from albania. applying that principle rather than just to albania to all countries around the world, is what this bill is

trying to do. but you don't agree with it? >> i agree. i do with the >> no, i do agree. i do with the principle just principle of it. right. i just i just think that it's not going to practice because just think that it's not going to we're'actice because just think that it's not going to we're intice because just think that it's not going to we're in the because just think that it's not going to we're in the european whilst we're in the european convention rights convention on human rights and subject refugee subject to the un refugee convention, the courts are bound to get in the way and the government not explicitly government has not explicitly said will leave the said that it will leave the european convention or denounce which is the technical legal word. the un refugee convention. that means the judges in foreign courts are always going to have the last word. and is the british government going defy the last word. and is the b decision?3rnment going defy the last word. and is the b decision? a|ment going defy the last word. and is the b decision? a final going defy the last word. and is the b decision? a final decision defy the last word. and is the b decision? a final decision of afy a decision? a final decision of the court in strasbourg? my answer to that is no, it is not going well, bill, you were nodding your head when we saw offshore processing that, um , offshore processing that, um, deportations aren't happening. >> really , but it's very >> really, but it's very difficult people . is difficult to deport people. is that not because of the european court of human rights? >> it's because that's where all of these appeals go. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> if you look at the supreme court judgement, it said both domestic law and international law was stopping the deportations. and there is a real problem, you know, pmqs

today , keir starmer rightly today, keir starmer rightly highlighted that there's 4250 asylum seekers who've gone missing and the government hasn't got a clue where they go. also, not against, in also, i'm not against, in principle, offshore processing. we looked at that when we were in government . we looked at that when we were in government. but rwanda is not a safe country. you know , there a safe country. you know, there are extrajudicial killings there are extrajudicial killings there are deportations, 87% of refugees would be safe. you need to work at it. and we did do that. but we also did a range of other things . and emily, you other things. and emily, you said this all started in 1997. i acknowledge till about 2003 we didn't get on top of the asylum numbers for the next seven years. we brought the numbers down dramatically so you can do it, but you've really got to work at it. >> i think keir starmer, there is a trust issue there from the pubuc is a trust issue there from the public though, keir public though, because keir starmer lent his name to starmer has lent his name to letters attempting to keep foreign criminals in this country prevent their country to prevent their deportation. 50 foreign criminals intended to be criminals were intended to be deported to jamaica for example. so does he have a trust issue

when immigration, when it comes to immigration, too? think we all do too? because i think we all do want where those 4250, want to know where those 4250, um, have gone. of um, migrants have gone. of course we do. that's a safety risk, if anything else. well routinely opposed every immigration control measure in my lifetime, going back to the commonwealth immigrants act of 1962, uh, when i was 13 years old. >> uh, well, we brought we brought our own immigration bills in when we were in power, and they worked and they were effective . effective. >> and this stuff around keir, keir was a barrister. he was a very successful barrister. and the of our legal system the nature of our legal system is that barristers will take on cases for all sorts of different people. so i don't think there's a trust issue. keir is very, very reducing numbers. >> you know, it's a different matter though. i was talking about letter that about the open letter that was signed and keep, signed in order to try and keep, um, a flight from going off to jamaica with. yeah. >> he did. he did , did that >> and he did. he did, did that in role as a barrister. and in his role as a barrister. and that's what barristers do when they cases. they are pursuing cases. >> this was when he was in the shadow cabinet. >> this was when he was in the shéthis cabinet. >> this was when he was in the shéthis cabinetas a as a >> this wasn't as a as a barrister. believe so.

>> this wasn't as a as a barthere believe so. >> this wasn't as a as a barthere was believe so. >> this wasn't as a as a barthere was a believe so. >> this wasn't as a as a barthere was a mylieve so. >> this wasn't as a as a bar there was a my recollection >> there was a my recollection is it was when he was a barrister before he was we might be talking about two different things of things because there's lots of quotes and that rishi quotes and cases that rishi sunak from his time as sunak brings up from his time as a also , a barrister. there is also, separately, an open letter signed by mps in 2020, before he became leader of the. i think it was during his election campaign to be leader of the labour party, was against people party, which was against people being sent abroad. but shall we park that because there are more issues to cover. indeed, one issues to cover. indeed, one issue we've mentioned before , issue we've mentioned before, julie, before the new innovative police tactic being used to catch criminals who target people wearing luxury watches. >> yes, it involved essentially undercover officers luring criminals in by wearing rolexes or presumably fake rolex. i hope fake rolex in crime hotspots so they would wear them. they would put themselves in some danger, presumably . ali, uh, these these presumably. ali, uh, these these gangs, these criminals would then try and rip the watches off

of their arms, not knowing they were undercover for police officers. and then they'd, uh, they'd catch them. so a good tactic. >> well, it's certainly an innovative one. my speaking for myself, i've never really understood the fascination of rolex having a great rolex watches. having a great big metal on your. big hunk of metal on your. that's not the wrist, but i don't i don't wear any timepiece at all because i've got so much electricity in my body that they stop on my wrist. >> answer is don't wear >> so the answer is don't wear anything nice. in case you lure anything nice. in case you lure a criminal a watch . a criminal a watch. >> that's what you want. >> that's what you want. >> yeah, well , >> that's what you want. >> yeah, well, i mean, bill, >> that's what you want. >> y> that's what you want. >> y> that's what you want. >> y> that's what you want. >> y> that's what you want. >> y> that's what you want. >> y> effective. >> i think it's effective. i mean, know, at a time when mean, you know, at a time when conviction rates are falling, i think is good intelligence think this is good intelligence led policing . and i think that's led policing. and i think that's the issue sometimes times the pubuc the issue sometimes times the public are wrong and the authorities are right because, you know, in my 13 years as an mp, people said they always wanted a bobby on the beat on the street corner. actually that's not the most effective deployment of resources. it's using police intelligence using the police intelligence and where it's most and targeting where it's most effective. and that's what comes across clearly from this story .

across clearly from this story. >> i wonder if there would be some raising eyebrow some people raising an eyebrow about deception , the plain about the deception, the plain clothes of it. it's not clothes element of it. it's not a view i hold, but do you think that might be an issue? >> why it >> well, i can't see why it should be. because should be. really? because nobody forcing the nobody is actually forcing the person to come and steal the watch. fake or genuine and merely appearing in public as a kind of lure. it seems to me to be a pretty benign way of policing. and if it works, then i'm all in favour of it. >> and how have we got to this? this state of society where we have these young men? uh going around scaring the life out of people in our capital city, stealing watches from their arms. we've heard about gangs stealing canada goose jackets off people's backs. uh, does make a picture of a bit of a wild west out there, doesn't it, bill? >> well , i bill? >> well, i mean, come on, we've had crime since time immemorial, and about effectively and it's about effectively challenging it. and i think this

is an example of that happening and that happening, uh, effectively . effectively. >> um, but i don't think it's always been normal to fear walking around central london, having to hide your ring, having to hide your watch . to hide your watch. >> i mean, i can having to hide, you know, the spate of knife crime in the capital. >> it does appear to be that things have got worse . things have got worse. >> i think if you go back to the 90s, uh, there were similar concerns similar fears. i'm concerns and similar fears. i'm not. i'm not saying that they're not. i'm not saying that they're not important and that we shouldn't tackling them, but shouldn't be tackling them, but we 20 years, go we did for about 20 years, go through a period of reducing crime levels through good police numbers, through intelligence led policing and a whole range of other factors. um, that clearly isn't always the case at the moment. i think one of the other things that's driving this is the backlog in the courts. so even when actually hold even when you actually get hold of someone, then spend of someone, they can then spend months and and months months and months and months without . without being convicted. >> it is absolutely right. i mean, shocking statistic, mean, one shocking statistic, which this

which i read in the times this morning was that 28% of court cases take over a year to be heard and 10% take two years. and this is absolutely shocking. >> and therefore it's not really a deterrent because a young person will think , well, come person will think, well, come on, know, it's going be on, you know, it's going to be two before convicted two years before i get convicted and the number theft, thefts and the number of theft, thefts that are simply not pursued mobile phones, laptops , small mobile phones, laptops, small personal items, bicycles , personal items, bicycles, whatever it is, cause you get a crime reference number and then case closed. >> well, we made a crime reference report the other day purely for insurance purposes , purely for insurance purposes, not with any expectation that the police were going to be able to the criminals. and to find the criminals. uh, and that's the big problem today. it is that, you know, there i think the police in many have the police in many ways do have some priorities . as you some wrong priorities. as you know, all the non—hate crime nonsense, for example, and the amount time that's taken up amount of time that's taken up with , i do think more with that, i do think a more visible streets visible presence on the streets by heard what bill by police. i heard what bill said, of course some said, and there's of course some force in what he said. but i do think more visible presence of think a more visible presence of

the streets would the police on the streets would make a bit of a difference. and it's all incremental, you know, over often hear over time, we also often hear about foreign criminal gangs entering the country , ready to entering the country, ready to commit crimes and then leaving swiftly, some even coming for the day. >> a day out in london. nick, as many watchers as you can, then hop back on the eurostar. >> it's rather nice, isn't it? >> it's rather nice, isn't it? >> it's rather nice, isn't it? >> i how did the police >> i mean, how did the police deal that? deal with that? >> and we are and we are >> yeah, and we are and we are seeing seeing these seeing we are seeing these gangs, and gangs, we've seen gangs and i don't it's just a london don't think it's just a london issue. we're a spate issue. we're seeing a huge spate of in liverpool. we're of gun crime in liverpool. we're seeing stabbings across the country and thefts in all major cities as well. clearly it's a big issue. i'm afraid that is all we've got time for in this section of the show. but so much more to come up in the next houn more to come up in the next hour. thank you to the former labour mp , bill rammell and of labour mp, bill rammell and of course hamilton, the leader course neil hamilton, the leader of joining us here on of ukip, forjoining us here on the sofas. we're going to bring you updates on that crucial you more updates on that crucial vote government's rwanda vote on the government's rwanda bill, that crucial vote approaching afternoon in approaching this afternoon in posing the toughest challenge yet to the prime minister's

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>> good afternoon britain . it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 on wednesday the 17th of january. fine showdown rishi sunak faces the toughest challenge to his leadership yet, with the final commons vote on his totemic rwanda bill, he lashed out at sir keir starmer over his former job lashed out at sir keir starmer over his formerjob as a human rights lawyer, while the labour

leader compared tory mps to hundreds of bald men scrapping over a single broken comb . but over a single broken comb. but as the crunch rwanda vote approaches, this afternoon, gb news can exclude reveal that a further seven boats have crossed the channel this morning, bringing around 300 further illegal migrants to the uk. the pressure is mounting and the tragic story of a toddler found starved to death next to his dead father in lincolnshire, serious questions are now being asked of social services and how involved they should have been. >> we'll bring you the details . >> we'll bring you the details. and on the crossings and the rwanda plan of course. mark white also brought us the breaking news not too long ago that the rwandan president has had quite a lot to say , had quite a lot to say, essentially suggesting that as

this drags on and on and on, and the reputation of rwanda dragged through the mud has been dragged through the mud has been dragged through the mud that he could potentially pull the plug on the whole thing. >> he could now people on the left are saying, wonderful, we might money people might get our money back. people on are saying, hang on the right are saying, hang on. this afternoon in the house of be that crucial of commons could be that crucial moment determines whether moment that determines whether or not we have a rwanda scheme or not we have a rwanda scheme or not we have a rwanda scheme or not at all. yes i can imagine. >> it must be quite frustrating for the rwandan government, for the president to have to listen to absolutely everyone pontificate over whether rwanda is or is not a safe country. yeah, but of course they are getting quite a lot of money from they are taxpayers , more from they are taxpayers, more than £100 million. >> we'll have more on >> well, we'll have more on that. of course . after your that. of course. after your headunes that. of course. after your headlines sophia . headlines with sophia. >> good afternoon . it's 2:01. >> good afternoon. it's 2:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . tory rebels are

newsroom. tory rebels are warning the government must support a tougher rwanda bill, or they face putting the deal at risk. it's after the country's president, paul kagame , told the president, paul kagame, told the guardian efforts to implement the plan can't drag on and he'd be happy for the scheme to be scrapped. the labour leader has also described the asylum policy as a farce , criticising the as a farce, criticising the prime minister ahead of a crucial vote, sir keir starmer said £400 million had been spent not flying anyone to kigali and questioned how the government could lose contact with more than 4000 people earmarked for removal. >> only this government could claim that it's going to get flights off the ground only to discover they couldn't find a plane, only, only this government could sign a removal deal with rwanda , only to end up deal with rwanda, only to end up taking people from rwanda to here. but but he still hasn't answered the question, so i'll try again. >> what progress has he made in locating . the 4250 people his

locating. the 4250 people his government has apparently lost? >> he's dodged it three times. >> he's dodged it three times. >> where are they? >> where are they? >> it it is a bit rich to hear him in here pretending that he cares about how we actually stop the boat when he's been crystal clear. he's been crystal clear and said that even if the plan is working to reduce the numbers, he would still scrap it. mr speaker, it's because he has no values, no conviction and no plan. >> it is back to square one. >> it is back to square one. >> and ahead of the rwanda vote, critical to the prime minister's stop the boats policy, seven small vessels were intercepted trying to cross the channel today , around 300 people have today, around 300 people have now been brought to dover. even as weather continues to as the weather continues to deteriorate. the latest rivals are the first since the weekend and after five people drowned just off the french coast , a just off the french coast, a rapid review has been launched after the bodies of a toddler and his father were found in skegness. two year old bronson battersby is thought to have

starved to death after his dad, kenneth , suffered a heart attack kenneth, suffered a heart attack at their home in skegness. they were last seen alive on boxing day. social workers visited the property on the 2nd of january, but it was another five days before discovered their before police discovered their bodies. his family accused bodies. his family has accused social services of failing to save the child . the daughter of save the child. the daughter of murdered mp sir david amess is suing essex police and the home office. sir david was stabbed to death in his constituency in leigh on sea in october 2021. a court was told. ali harbi ali, who was given a whole life time for the murder, was a home—grown terrorist who was known to authorities . katie amos has authorities. katie amos has filed personal injury claim, filed a personal injury claim, saying she wants to ensure proper accountability and learning from her father's murder . learning from her father's murder. inflation unexpectedly rose to 4% last month. the office for national statistics says the increase was driven by higher tobacco and alcohol pnces. higher tobacco and alcohol prices . there was some relief

prices. there was some relief for households , though, with for households, though, with food rising at a slower rate and the cost of petrol falling . the cost of petrol falling. chancellor jeremy the cost of petrol falling. chancellorjeremy hunt insists chancellor jeremy hunt insists that the government's plan to fix the economy is working . fix the economy is working. >> inflation never falls in a straight line. we can see from the rest of the world. it's gone up in france, the united states and the eurozone. but here in the uk it was 11.1% when rishi sunak became prime minister. it's more than halved. it's still nearly a percentage point lower than where the office for budget responsibility predicted it would be. only in the autumn statement in november. so we have a plan. we've taken very difficult decisions to bring inflation down. that plan is working . working. >> fujitsu is being urged to make an initial £10 million payment to a fund for victims of the horizon scandal . it's after the horizon scandal. it's after the horizon scandal. it's after the company's europe director admitted there was a moral obugafion admitted there was a moral obligation to contribute. paul patterson apologised for the appalling miscarriage of justice

when he appeared before mps yesterday. hundreds of subpostmasters were convicted and wrongly accused of theft because of a fault in the it system . fujitsu is being asked system. fujitsu is being asked to make an initial payment by the end of this month . the end of this month. undercover police officers are wearing luxury watches as part of an operation to catch out thieves . video released by the thieves. video released by the met police shows robbers trying to lure apparent victims into a false sense of security before trying to steal the items . other trying to steal the items. other undercover officers then pounce, apprehending the offenders . two apprehending the offenders. two operations were carried out in wealthy london boroughs, leading to more than 20 convictions. met commander for intelligence ben russell says the police tactics are working . are working. >> we think this is organised crime, but it's pretty opportunistic . opportunistic. >> so there are groups of young men, mainly in their 20s and 30s, hanging around outside bars and clubs, spotting people, and they know what they're looking . for >> and in some breaking news to

bnng >> and in some breaking news to bring to you now, kensington palace has confirmed the princess of wales was admitted to hospital for planned abdominal surgery yesterday . abdominal surgery yesterday. they say it was successful and she's expected to remain in hospital for 10 to 14 days before returning home to continue her recovery. and we'll bnng continue her recovery. and we'll bring you more on that as we get it . it. >> well, our royal correspondent cameron walker joins us now with more on that breaking news about the princess of wales , cameron. the princess of wales, cameron. 10 to 14 days in hospital seems serious . serious. >> this does seem on the surface , >> this does seem on the surface i , >> this does seem on the surface , i understand it was a planned operation. i'm just going to read you the statements from kensington palace. so it says her royal highness the princess of wales was admitted to the london clinic yesterday for planned abdominal surgery . the planned abdominal surgery. the surgery was successful and it is

expected that she will remain in hospital for 10 to 14 days. as you said tom, before returning home to continue her recovery . home to continue her recovery. now, based on current medical advice, she is unlikely to return to public duties until after easter. now, that suggests to me that this has been a very significant operation . the significant operation. the statement goes on to say that the princess of wales appreciates the interest that this statement will generate . this statement will generate. she hopes that the public will understand her desire to maintain as much normality for her children as possible, and her children as possible, and her wish that her personal medical information remains private. kensington palace will therefore only provide updates on her royal highness's progress when there is significant new information to share. the princess of wales wishes to apologise to all those concerned for the fact that she has to postpone her upcoming engagement. she looks forward to reinforcing dating as many as possible as soon as possible . so

possible as soon as possible. so thatis possible as soon as possible. so that is the statement from kensington palace. i have been speaking to a couple of people close to the issue. i understand that once her royal highness is discharged, she will return home to windsor for her recovery. it's likely that she's going to be as we said, heard from that statement that she's going to be resting and recuperating for at least 2 to 3 months, and she's only going to return to duties if doctors believe it is safe for her royal highness to do so. which is why it's realistically not going to be until after easter. i'm told the prince of wales will combine has been by his wife's side throughout all of this, as well as his children supporting his children . he, the supporting his children. he, the prince of wales . william is also prince of wales. william is also going to now postpone a number of his engagements to support his family during this time. he's not undertaking any official duties while his wife is in hospital, and during the

immediate period , and he's also immediate period, and he's also going to be expected to return home to be by his wife's side. um we'll hear more about the princess of wales's, um, schedule in due course when we know more about her recovery. there had also been some reports that the prince and princess of wales were going to be travelling to italy in the spring. from my understanding, all of that is now postponed due to the princess of wales, uh, being in hospital for this abdomen . uh, surgery . uh, it's abdomen. uh, surgery. uh, it's understood that, of course , as understood that, of course, as with any medical issue, when it comes to the royal family, they wish for the specific details to remain private and for the pubuc remain private and for the public and the to media respect their privacy . um, as a family. their privacy. um, as a family. so a very significant and unexpected story , uh, unexpected story, uh, information coming out of kensington palace this afternoon just to repeat, the princess of wales had planned abdominal surgery . she had admitted she

surgery. she had admitted she was admitted into the london clinic yesterday and that's where she's expected to remain for at least the next 10 to 14 days while she recovers , and days while she recovers, and then a further period of recovery , um, of 2 to 3 months. recovery, um, of 2 to 3 months. um it appears to be quite serious on the surface, but i must stress that doctors appear to say that the abdominal surgery was successful. >> well, let's hope she recovers. well, thank you very much, cameron walker of royal correspondent . so let's speak to correspondent. so let's speak to the former bbc royal correspondent, michael cole. michael, i'm just reading the statement here back again, 10 to 14 days. she will remain in hospital . this 14 days. she will remain in hospital. this is a serious surgery and a major recovery time . time. >> good afternoon emily. good afternoon tom. absolutely. the good thing to say is that it wasn't an emergency. >> it was a planned procedure. >> it was a planned procedure. >> and she's gone into probably the best place she could go to the best place she could go to the london clinic, the top people's clinic at the top of harley street, uh, where many

royal personages and other important people have gone in the past . the past. >> um, the other thing to say is that she's young and vigorous , that she's young and vigorous, um, and very fit , as we've seen um, and very fit, as we've seen on many occasions , taking part on many occasions, taking part in very , uh, strenuous sports. in very, uh, strenuous sports. uh, always in the forefront, in fact, competing very, uh, lustily and successfully against our husband in all sorts of, uh, games and, uh, yachting events and dragon boat races and so on and dragon boat races and so on and so forth . and so forth. >> but as cameron has said, very comprehensively giving gb news, uh , the viewers and listeners, uh, the viewers and listeners, the complete picture early on in the complete picture early on in the day . uh, the complete picture early on in the day. uh, this the complete picture early on in the day . uh, this is the complete picture early on in the day. uh, this is not the complete picture early on in the day . uh, this is not a the day. uh, this is not a trivial matter. it's obviously quite serious. it's trivial matter. it's obviously quite serious . it's there. we quite serious. it's there. we see her on another occasion, which looks to me to be at a hospital . she, of course , um, hospital. she, of course, um, very conscientiously she has addedin very conscientiously she has added in that quite full

statement from kensington palace, much more so than one would have perhaps expected it on another occasion. yes there are, i think it's certainly another hospital visit as old queen mary said, were the royal family were never tired . and we family were never tired. and we love hospitals. they certainly know how to go to them, but not often as patients. as she is at the moment . often as patients. as she is at the moment. uh, it's going to be a long stay in hospital afterwards. uh, these days they get the patients out of hospital as soon as possible back on their feet. so that also does indicate the serious ness of the nature of whatever it is that is ailing her. i think it would be unwise for us to speculate yet about what it is . and i'm sure about what it is. and i'm sure in the fullness of time , in the fullness of time, kensington palace will bring out more details as they see fit. but it is, um , typical, uh, and but it is, um, typical, uh, and commendable that the princess of wales, one of the things she said in that statement or had said in that statement or had said on her behalf, is that she

hopes to reinstate all the engaged moments that will obviously have to be cancelled while she undergoes this procedure, recovers from it and returns to full health. >> um, and michael, it's hard to overstate just how little indication then we had of this before. this after noon. this was not something on anyone, on anyone's radar , really. is there anyone's radar, really. is there anyone's radar, really. is there any precedent in the royal family for sort of these secretive hospital admissions? i don't think it's really some secret . secret. >> i've, uh. i mean, when something's going to happen, it's going to happen. what's the point of announcing it beforehand ? because it will only beforehand? because it will only create speculation . and i'm sure create speculation. and i'm sure the clinic didn't want hordes of cameramen around the doors. and i'm certainly sure that the princess of wales, because this is a very private matter as far as she's concerned, and her husband's concerned, wouldn't want the fact is, it's want that. the fact is, it's happened. it happened yesterday.

they've announced it today. i think that that is entirely commendable and right. but, um, i think emily is there agreeing with me . and i think we, uh, we with me. and i think we, uh, we obviously wish her well . of obviously wish her well. of course we do. we're human beings . um, but it quite clearly is something major. uh michael. >> certainly. thank you. may i ask you about how, uh, something about the modern monarchy ? we about the modern monarchy? we have a statement on instagram. millions of people will see this news via social, social media. just your your take on that. it's quite incredible. and they have the comments open on anyone in the world can comment and like and respond to this statement that the princess of wales has had this surgery . wales has had this surgery. >> yeah, someone a long time ago, much cleverer than me, called it the global village. and we're certainly seeing that now. everybody knows instantly everything i my mind goes back

to when the young , uh, prince to when the young, uh, prince charles went into great ormond street hospital to have his, uh, his tonsils out. i mean, that was a very, very different thing. wasn't announced beforehand, but we all crowded down there and did what the best we could. when he came out . and, we could. when he came out. and, uh, obviously, uh, when it through the surgery, uh, minor surgery perhaps, but obviously to him , it felt very painful at to him, it felt very painful at the time and i'm sure he had his ice cream, which was the general ration for tonsil patients . uh, ration for tonsil patients. uh, when they went into hospital. yes. it is very different. uh, and buckingham palace and kensington palace recognised that they realise that people are going to be talking about this. so they've got in as full a statement as i think is necessary from the beginning, so that there are no further questions. it doesn't mean to say that there won't be speculation all over the press tomorrow about what it is, but i

think a woman's health, uh, deserves privacy , and i believe deserves privacy, and i believe that it would be right and proper to not speculate. and obviously wait until they feel it's appropriate to tell us anything more , for we can only anything more, for we can only wish her well . we hope it is wish her well. we hope it is not. uh uh, something which is going to be a chronic, uh, situation in a chronic chronic health condition that plagues her later. obviously it's been planned. they've known about it. they've decided to act in this decisive way . and, um, one, one decisive way. and, um, one, one the understanding is that the procedure, whatever it is, has been successful , uh, and we procedure, whatever it is, has been successful, uh, and we can only hope for. and i'm sure we all do a full, uh, and robust recovery as soon as possible because, uh , kate middleton, because, uh, kate middleton, princess of wales, is a tremendous asset to the country, to the monarchy and indeed to the commonwealth. >> well said. well, michael

cole, thank you so much for joining us there. former bbc royal correspondent. yes >> so for more, let's speak to a gp at same day doctor, doctor lawrence gerlis. yes we've just heard the news. of course , that heard the news. of course, that the princess of wales is in hospital after having an abdominal surgery . the statement abdominal surgery. the statement says that she will be remain in the hospital for another 10 to 14 days. is that normal for such a surgery ? a surgery? >> well, okay. it may not be the right thing to speculate, but since my next patient is coming in with abdominal pain, according to my list, i can speculate about the various causes. surgery . if causes. that's major surgery. if it's 10 to 14 days, this is not, um, keyhole surgery for gallstones, for example, which gallstones, for example, which gallstones would be one of the things you'd have play a planned surgery for. but that would be a keyhole operation. you'd be out on the same day or the next day. um, we see a lot of appendicitis . this in general practice . i

. this in general practice. i always remind our younger doctors not to forget appendicitis, but that's usually emergency surgery. although you can sometimes have an appendix abscess , which would be planned abscess, which would be planned surgery , which would instead surgery, which would instead into a longer stay in hospital . into a longer stay in hospital. um, beyond that, it is pure speculation. so in answer to your question, 10 to 14 days is quite a long post—operative recovery. and suggests a significant intervention . significant intervention. >> what does it say that perhaps this 10 to 14 days might not be specific to the surgery ? it specific to the surgery? it could be specific to perhaps the london clinic itself, a very, uh, established private hospital that perhaps might offer a greater degree of post—operative care than an nhs hospital . care than an nhs hospital. >> i look, i know the london clinic , i used to work in the clinic, i used to work in the london clinic. i know it very well. but, you know, with a

patient like the princess of wales who get first class wales who can get first class care at home, which would include nursing care . um, include nursing care. um, there's actually no reason to keep someone in for 10 to 14 days unless they've had a significant intervention . were significant intervention. were crying a lot of post operative monitoring . um, so i know monitoring. um, so i know i think on the contrary, i think a private hospital, uh, for someone like her would be willing to discharge her after a day or two unless it was something more significant. point. >> so. so what? you're saying is, is that this is likely to be very serious . very serious. >> i'm saying significant at this stage. i mean, you know , it this stage. i mean, you know, it may be wrong to speculate and hopefully we'll get details in due course. but as i said, you know, even, you know, gallbladder surgery, most a lot of abdominal surgery can be done via keyhole laparoscopically, which is a very short post—operative stay . she's post—operative stay. she's obviously had a major abdominal intervention with a probably with a long scar. um, and this

is a significant intervention. they're talking about 10 to 14 days. if they're saying that now, uh, then i think they're pre—warning us that something, um, of a significant nature has taken place may be related to bowel, um, or pancreas or something like that . something like that. >> well, we have been told that the surgery was successful . yes. the surgery was successful. yes. so, as you say, it's wrong to speculate too much, but at least we know that that the surgery was initially successful, even though have a long though she will have a long recovery time , according to that recovery time, according to that statement. thank you very much for your really appreciate statement. thank you very much for doctor really appreciate statement. thank you very much for doctor lawrencey appreciate statement. thank you very much for doctor lawrence gerliseciate statement. thank you very much for doctor lawrence gerlis ,:iate statement. thank you very much for doctor lawrence gerlis , a|te statement. thank you very much for doctor lawrence gerlis , a gp it. doctor lawrence gerlis, a gp at day, doctor service . at the same day, doctor service. >> well, let's get a little bit more now with our royal correspondent cameron walker and cameron. this seems like it is a very significant operation . and very significant operation. and again, we were not expecting this to come up. >> yeah, we certainly weren't tom. and as doctor gerlis said, this appears to be pretty major surgery because she is expected to remain at the london clinic.

for between 10 and 14 days. and i must admit, over the last week or so i had noticed that kensington palace had been unusually silent for this time of year there hadn't been many pubuc of year there hadn't been many public engagements. so we saw the prince of wales last week, um, giving the, the, the honours , the cbes to those two rugby stars in leeds. but we hadn't seen the princess of wales in pubuc seen the princess of wales in public for quite some time. the last time we saw her, i believe, was on christmas day, on the walk in sandringham to saint mary's church and i did question myself that the prince george, princess charlotte and prince louis all went back to school last wednesday. and yet we hadnt last wednesday. and yet we hadn't seen any public engagements from the prince and princess of wales. was princess of wales. that was extremely unusual . and then, of extremely unusual. and then, of course, this afternoon we have perhaps discovered the major reason why why the princess of

wales is our next queen. she is the future queen. so clearly there is a significant public interest in the health of the princess of wales . as she has princess of wales. as she has undergone what can son palace has described as planned abdominal surgery , which abdominal surgery, which suggests to me this wasn't well, it clearly wasn't an emergency admission into hospital. but as the doctor alluded to there, it's clearly serious enough where she has to remain under medical supervision in a hospital in london, a top hospital in london, a top hospital for more than a week. beanng hospital for more than a week. bearing in mind , as he said, she bearing in mind, as he said, she is the princess of wales . they is the princess of wales. they have a lot of medical care at home as well, so it's clearly serious enough where she needs that expert. top care in hospital . i that expert. top care in hospital. i think this also shows us, um, perhaps a fatherly and family and private nature of the prince of wales. from my understanding, he's really going to try and divide his time between spending time with his

wife by her bedside in the london clinic for the next week or so, and of course, supporting his three extremely young children. the oldest , prince children. the oldest, prince george being ten, the youngest, prince louis being five. and they are, of course , uh, at they are, of course, uh, at school near windsor. and i'm not going to put words into their mouth, but clearly they're going to be concerned about their mother being in hospital and being away from home for at least 10 to 14 days. and the fact that it's not just the hospital admission that we're talking about here and the recovery in hospital, the fact that are essentially that they are essentially cancelling all engagements for the princess of wales for the next 2 to 3 months, including a reported planned tour to italy and the prince of wales is going to be cancelling a lot of his engagements for some time is very significant. i do did understand that both the prince and princess of wales had very important, um , topics to them important, um, topics to them that they were going , projects that they were going, projects that they were going, projects that they were going, projects that they were going to really champion this for the first half

of 2024. so i can imagine both of 2024. so i can imagine both of them are going to be incredibly disappointed that the princess of wales cannot work on her early childhood development projects, with her shaping us campaign , which she launched campaign, which she launched this time last year very successfully in leeds and prince william. when it comes to homelessness and trying to prove within the next five years that you can end homelessness in this country. so all of that is being put on hold for them to be a private family and support the princess of wales as she recovers from what kensington palace describe as as um planned but successful abdominal surgery i >> -- >> yes, cameron, just just on that. you've been around the princess of wales for a while now in your in your role . well, now in your in your role. well, tell us a little bit about her as a character. will she be itching to be back to work? will she be itching to get back to pubuc she be itching to get back to public engagement ? that's that's public engagement? that's that's a long time to be out of action.

>> yeah , it certainly is. and >> yeah, it certainly is. and one thing we have noticed with the prince and princess of wales since they acquired their new roles as, as the prince william, heir to the throne, and catherine being the heir to the consort , as it were. as in, she consort, as it were. as in, she will be queen consort at um is that they're doing it their own way. instead of trying to fit way. so instead of trying to fit in as many engagements in the year as possible as, let's say, princess anne or a less senior royal does , what the princess of royal does, what the princess of wales does in particular is spend a lot of time behind the scenes with issues that she really cares about . so scenes with issues that she really cares about. so in scenes with issues that she really cares about . so in the really cares about. so in the long run, they can have she can have tangible impacts on that issue and improve lives of others. so, for example, with her, uh , early years work , we her, uh, early years work, we have seen her take part and i have seen her take part and i have spoken to many people who spend a lot of time behind the scenes with the princess of wales castle and wales in windsor castle and various other places in private meetings with business leaders, with early childhood experts. really trying to champion this

cause of the first five years of a child's life, really impacting , uh, the future chances of that child when they get into adulthood . it's seen really as adulthood. it's seen really as her life's legacy. and it's something which i have seen throughout the last year and a half . but throughout the last year and a half. but it's a real passion of the princess of wales, and she truly wants to make a difference here. you just see her with some children. was two children. i believe it was two summers ago at the chelsea flower . so, um, you know , flower show. so, um, you know, really nurturing that generation . and it's something she really wants to be her lifelong passion. the fact she's passion. so the fact she's having to take such significant chunk of time out of this to focus her own health, um, focus on her own health, um, i think perhaps will show that she is very much up for putting others first rather than herself . and i have no doubt she would not have made this decision to take so much time out of the pubuc take so much time out of the public eye and obviously be in hospital for 14 days, have this surgery . if it wasn't absolutely surgery. if it wasn't absolutely essential for her health and well—being . this is incredibly , well—being. this is incredibly, uh, an incredibly significant,

uh, an incredibly significant, uh, medical issue, which we have been told about this afternoon because she , she's spending, you because she, she's spending, you know, 10 to 14 days in hospital when she had her three children in saint mary's hospital, the lindo clinic , very close to lindo clinic, very close to where our studios are . she was where our studios are. she was in hospital for probably , i in hospital for probably, i don't know, a day, maybe a day, a couple of days with, with each of those three children. she was admitted in the admitted to hospital in the early stages of pregnancy. for those , uh, three, uh, three those, uh, three, uh, three hospitals, for those three children, um, for acute morning sickness. but apart from that, we haven't really seen any medical issues with the princess of wales. is the doctor said, or i think it was michael cole actually said she is incredibly fit. she really enjoys her sport. she's incredibly athletic and gets her kids involved in sport as well. uh, and being genuinely, genuinely, generally even healthy. so it has come as a bit of a shock. i think , or it a bit of a shock. i think, or it will come as a bit of a shock to

our viewers and listeners that the princess of wales, bearing in she's just turned in mind she's only just turned 40, i think she's 40, she's um, i think she's turned 41 earlier this month. it is going to be a bit of a surprise , but of course, surprise, but of course, everybody around the country will wishing her well . and will be wishing her well. and kensington palace said i again , kensington palace said i again, i stress that the surgery was successful . successful. >> and they are. cameron. uh, this has partially this has been partially announced on social media. announced on on social media. i'm just looking at the post on instagram. hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of comments saying sending lots of love, a speedy recovery to you. don't worry about public engagements . it's all about your engagements. it's all about your recovery . huge amounts of recovery. huge amounts of support . support. >> yeah, and i think that just perhaps shows the level of popularity the princess of wales has in the most recent yougov poll of the popularity of members of the royal family, the princess of wales came out on top in front of prince william, in front of the king, in front of queen camilla. she is, according to the yougov poll, the most, the most recent one,

the most, the most recent one, the most, the most recent one, the most popular member of the royal family and i think that is because she has carried out, continues to carry out her dufies continues to carry out her duties with such stoicism and grace. she has remained very silent on perhaps some rumblings going on the other side of the atlantic, which i'm not going to mention too much now, but you can all talk. you all know what i'm talking about. but she just keeps calm and carries on. and i think we saw that she has really kind of, uh, championed the work of the late queen elizabeth the second and copied her in what she does. and i think we can see the relationship between the princess of wales and prince william here. every time he looks at her, you can just tell that are clearly very much that they are clearly very much in love. her three young children , um, are very , of children, um, are very, of course, very taken by their mother and she has, despite it all, being the future queen, being the princess of wales, having all these engagements to fit in, still time for fit in, she still has time for her three young children and to bnng up her three young children and to bring up and give them bring them up and give them a most, the most normal childhood

they possibly can be given . as they possibly can be given. as members of the royal family . she members of the royal family. she really values the children's privacy . she and of course this privacy. she and of course this is going to come as a bit of an upset for them as well. but as i understand it, as i said, prince william is going to really split his time between princess catherine hospital and the catherine in hospital and the three children back at home in windsor. >> well, cameron walker, thank you bringing those you for bringing us those comprehensive on that comprehensive details on that breaking news that the princess of wales, princess catherine, is in hospital and will remain there for 10 to 14 days. well, we'll have more on that breaking news. uh this is good afternoon, britain on . gb news. britain on. gb news. >> it's 232. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room as we've been hearing the princess of wales has undergone abdominal surgery and is expected to remain in hospital for up to 14

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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news news. welcome back. >> it's 237 in the afternoon, so let's continue with the breaking news that princess catherine is in hospital for planned abdominal surgery and will remain there for 10 to 14 days. so joining us is the ukip leader, neil hamilton , and the leader, neil hamilton, and the former labour mp rammell. of

course you'll want to send your thoughts to the princess. >> of course, that's a welshman . >> of course, that's a welshman. i'm naturally very concerned about the princess of wales . it about the princess of wales. it does sound like major invasive surgery, doesn't it? if she's going to recover recovery time of nearly a fortnight or up to a fortnight at any rate. so that's no joke. anybody who's ever had to undergo surgery that kind to undergo surgery of that kind will know how painful the after effects can be. so i'm sure we all have sympathy with them . all have sympathy with them. >> and, bill, a word from you. >> and, bill, a word from you. >> absolutely. i mean, my it's worrying and my thoughts go out to her, the family and the children as well because they'll be particularly affected like this. and just hope it can be, this. and i just hope it can be, uh, progressed and she can recover as quickly as possible . recover as quickly as possible. >> it's so shocking because to so princess so many people, princess catherine the sort of young , catherine is the sort of young, vital face of the royal family, a very sporty individual , a a very sporty individual, a young mother. um, this this really was, was not particularly expected . neil. expected. neil. >> no, i'm rather surprised in a way that the palace hasn't been

a bit more explicit to avoid the kind of speculation that we're indulging in here, which everybody indulging in everybody will be indulging in on sure not that we want on tv. i'm sure not that we want to draw attention to any rival channels, it's , um. well, channels, but it's, um. well, people are interested . people are interested. >> they're curious, not necessarily malevolent , of necessarily malevolent, of course, or nasty. >> no, i agree , but but given >> no, i agree, but but given that it was inevitable if we weren't actually told what the problem was, um , i can't think . problem was, um, i can't think. i can't really see why they wouldn't want to reveal this, because we all, in every family , because we all, in every family, have problems with this kind that arise from time to time. >> yes, bill. what do you make of sorts of of the way these sorts of announcements are , are, are announcements are, are, are given, given out to us? uh, the prince and princess of wales, as tom said, they're younger. the younger breed of royal, uh, quite modern one. they have a relationship , it seems, with relationship, it seems, with younger people . they've put this younger people. they've put this out. well, the kensington palace have put this out on their instagram , um, on their twitter

instagram, um, on their twitter account accounts and allowing for comments and lots of love and nice comments from millions of people from across the world. >> yeah, i think to some extent the palace is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't. and its handling of the situation. but there is a historic tendency for the palace not to give too much information , and i kind of much information, and i kind of think maybe some expectation management in advance of this. um, because i think they're now going to find it constant demands for information and news that might not have been the case if there had been some pre—briefing, this is pre—briefing, although this is a four paragraph long statement. >> whilst it doesn't provide all of the information and obviously leaves some comment for speculation, open , uh, it's speculation, open, uh, it's probably more information than than we would have got ten, 20 years ago about something similar. >> a lot . it tells us quite a >> a lot. it tells us quite a lot. >> i think that's true, but i think the timing issue . um, think it's the timing issue. um, you if there had been by you know, if there had been by the sound of it, it says it was

planned. um, if there had been some briefing last week, i think it's the suddenness of the announcement that's going to fuel all sorts of speculation, which isn't good, isn't healthy, and doesn't help the princess. >> the other thing i would say is it's rather surprising if they operation they knew that this operation was happen with a was going to happen with a planned presumed planned operation so presumed the date was more or

with both his public then privacy doesn't apply his public then privacy doesn't apply to you in quite the same way . and as the queen used to way. and as the queen used to say, no, i have to be seen to be believed . so you have to be more believed. so you have to be more open than perhaps you need to be in private life, or you can expect to be much, much less private. >> and i suppose that is the nature of being the princess of wales. if you if you have this sort of public role, there is always an interest. and i think, as we were saying earlier, it's not a malevolent interest , as we were saying earlier, it's not a malevolent interest, but it's not sort of a snooping interest. it's perhaps a concern even for someone who will one day be queen. >> sure. but i mean, you know , i >> sure. but i mean, you know, i don't want to get into the speculative business, but there may be things that they don't know moment . and know at the moment. and therefore, you know, the operation has got to take its

course. think they do need course. and i think they do need to that space that to be given that space for that to be given that space for that to i'm sure in to happen. and then i'm sure in some time, some more information will come out. and yes , they're will come out. and yes, they're pubuc will come out. and yes, they're public figures, but i think all pubuc public figures, but i think all public figures, but i think all public figures are allowed some privacy. um, but , public figures are allowed some privacy. um, but, you public figures are allowed some privacy. um, but , you know, from privacy. um, but, you know, from the palace's perspective, it's how you manage that and how you manage the news and media demands . and i think with demands. and i think with hindsight , demands. and i think with hindsight, some pre—briefing, if it were possible , might have it were possible, might have made the handling easier. >> and she's a very busy member of the royal family very visible, usually lots of public engagements. neal. so they have to let us know she's not going to let us know she's not going to be around for the next couple of weeks, maybe months of public engagement. then we need to know because otherwise that feels huge amounts of speculation. does not? does it not? >> well, i agree, and you know, i don't want be or i don't want to be carping or critical palace . i critical about the palace. i don't think a major issue don't think it's a major issue in that sense. but i just think, you know, given that the royal family is as popular today as it's ever been in my lifetime,

um, full marks to them then . um, full marks to them then. there's nothing really to fear , there's nothing really to fear, i think, from being a little more open than they've been. i certainly think that speculation itself is something which is undesirable . in fact, it could undesirable. in fact, it could be rather distasteful to the extent that it might be speculating on individual organs of body or whatever, which of the body or whatever, which we're not going to do. >> mark. >> mark. >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> well, i that's key >> well, i think that's the key point. is probably the point. this is probably the first time there's been something like this with a member royal family since member of the royal family since the media. the advent of social media. yeah. um, and you know , i fear yeah. um, and you know, i fear there's be all sorts of there's going to be all sorts of stuff there out on social media, and 90% of it will be inaccurate i >> -- >> well, emma >> well, let's get some more on this now with the historian and royal broadcaster and commentator ralph rafe heydel—mankoo ralph to put some comments text in all of this . comments text in all of this. uh, is this is this sort of how we would expect a royal hospital admission to be handled? yes

>> this is right out of the palace playbook. as far as the palace playbook. as far as the palace is concerned, medical matters are a matter of personal privacy, as anybody in this country is entitled to complete privacy with regards to their health. they have issued a statement giving us the bare bones of what is happening and acknowledging the prince and princess of wales desire also that whilst they understand there will be public interest, this is actually still a personal issue . we will expect personal issue. we will expect of course, in the days come of course, in the days to come there further there will be further clarification coming. uh, but at this point there's nothing here that's unusual. if that's at all unusual. if anything, perhaps you could say that the has learned that the palace has learned slightly . uh, viewers may slightly. uh, viewers may remember in 2021, the queen was admitted to hospital secretly. uh to undergo tests. the late queen elizabeth ii, i'm referring to. and it was only when the sun newspaper leaked this that the palace had to be forthcoming. in fact, the royal standard of the queen was actually flying over buckingham palace, even she wasn't

palace, even though she wasn't in residence. was actually in residence. she was actually in residence. she was actually in , which a complete in hospital, which a complete breach . uh, but the breach of protocol. uh, but the queen's view at that time , we queen's view at that time, we were was this was were told, was that this was a medical and that relating medical issue and that relating to tests and so forth, this is a bit more serious than tests. this is actual, uh, an unexpected surgery . it's planned unexpected surgery. it's planned surgery, but certainly a surprising turn of events . um, surprising turn of events. um, so that's why i think we've got a much fuller statement here. so ray, if you suspect that we'll receive further clarification . receive further clarification. >> oh, it's inevitable that in the days ahead, we will have a further statement from the palace of some capacity. >> what? what level of detail will be in that statement ? it will be in that statement? it remains seen. uh and but remains to be seen. uh and but i'm sure, of course, the palace is perfectly conscious of the concern people have for a princess that they always assumed was in rude health. we've always known how to be the most, perhaps the most physically active member of the royal family, a model of good health only really had one other serious sort of medical issue

relating to her three pregnancies when she had very severe morning sickness. but apart from that, severe morning sickness. but apart from that , we've severe morning sickness. but apart from that, we've had no inkung apart from that, we've had no inkling that there was any health issue with her royal highness and ralph. >> what can we expect over the next 10 to 14 days? obviously a great deal of privacy for the princess, but, uh, probably some family visits, no doubt her husband by her side , the prince husband by her side, the prince of wales. might we expect the king to visit ? king to visit? >> um. i'm not necessarily sure the king will be visiting in the next, uh, in the next 10 to 14 days. >> i mean, he may choose to do so, but it certainly there's no real sort of precedent or a protocol regarding that. >> yes , as we know that the >> but yes, as we know that the prince takes this very prince of wales takes this very seriously the princess of seriously and the princess of wales will take around three months. we believe , to recover months. we believe, to recover once um , once she's once she's at, um, once she's discharged from the london clinic, uh, where she is currently . um, and so all of the currently. um, and so all of the princess of wales , uh, scheduled princess of wales, uh, scheduled itinerary for the next three months have been cancelled

because the prince of wales wants remain by her side, wants to remain by her side, which, again, does go to, to show and suggest perhaps that this is a this is a rather serious recovery that we're seeing. there was great of seeing. there was great talk of the princess wales the prince or princess of wales being far more this being far more prominent this year as they have, uh, as they have done in recent months, really the monarchy as really promoting the monarchy as much they you have much as they can. you have a planned trip to italy, which is going go around easter. going to go around easter. that's cancelled as that's now been cancelled as well. and so there a lot well. and so there will be a lot of disappointed people around well. and so there will be a lot of ccountryited people around well. and so there will be a lot of ccountryited peoplexpecting the country who were expecting to see the prince and princess of wales coming into their local communities as the family really just focus on the health of just just focus on the health of the princess and knowing something of the princess of wales is character. >> will she be one of those who is most disappointed by missing pubuc is most disappointed by missing public engagements up to and after easter ? after easter? >> yes, i think the princess will be will be, you know, very disappointed on two counts. firstly she's a very energetic lady who loves to get out and do things we know how much she enjoys sport so forth.

enjoys her sport and so forth. so that will be a huge , uh, a so that will be a huge, uh, a huge to her and huge disappointment to her and probably a huge source of frustration for the next three months. as you say, you months. but yes, as you say, you know, probably the most know, the probably the most dynamic of the royal dynamic members of the royal family who absolutely love, uh, getting down to down to various, you know, local charities and causes that are close to their heart across the nation. and we've seen the we've seen the joy we've seen the we've seen the joy on on the princess of wales's face when she meets groups of children and so forth . groups of children and so forth. and how she's and we know how much she's really invested now in so many projects that have been announced last few announced in the last few months. causes of hers months. personal causes of hers from 0 to 5, child education and so forth. and there was really every intention made actually every intention made to actually boost those projects that were announced very recently. and so announced very recently. and so a lot of there'll be a lot of replanning in the weeks ahead. i'm sure . i'm sure. >> well, ralph, thank you so much for talking us through the context of this, uh, pretty shocking admission , um, to shocking admission, um, to hospital. of course, the princess of wales, uh, admitted to hospital. we understand. yes

today. and has undergone successful full abdominal surgery . well, let's continue surgery. well, let's continue with this news. joining us again is the leader of ukip, neil hamilton , and the former labour hamilton, and the former labour mp , bill rammell. um, bill, just mp, bill rammell. um, bill, just looking to the wider context of all of this, there are a lot of engagements now that that will not be undertaken by the princess. she says she wants to catch up with them in three months or so, but it really does show the work that the working royals put in for so many different elements of civic and pubuc different elements of civic and public life. >> absolutely . and that's to be >> absolutely. and that's to be commended. i mean , when i was commended. i mean, when i was vice chancellor of the university of bedfordshire , university of bedfordshire, after was mp and minister, after i was an mp and minister, um, both she and william visited um, both she and william visited um, a local health care centre that we were associated with. and what really stood out for me was her real interest in the people that she was meeting and to talking as she went round. so yes, it is a heavy workload and i think they're committed to it.

um, hopefully she will, you know, re fulfil the engagements. i think there's probably going to have to be some, uh, elements of other members of the royal family as well. family stepping in as well. >> true, isn't it ? >> well, that's true, isn't it? a very work schedule , but a very busy work schedule, but everyone, i assume, will understand that you need a lengthy time of recovery. clearly, a serious surgery. she will be in the hospital for 10 to 14 days. i imagine the hospital will be giving her the very best care possible . very best care possible. >> oh, that's absolutely incontestable . that's bound to incontestable. that's bound to happen, isn't it? uh but i'd like to go back to this point about working are , about how hard working they are, and they have an easy rapport with normal people, ordinary people. um, more than used to be the case with members of the royal family. um, some better than others, of course. princess anne was marvellous rapport with people as well. uh, as i've seen many , many times at and, uh, you many, many times at and, uh, you know, it's a new form of royal family that's in the making now.

so a completely new generation , so a completely new generation, which is different from previous generations. the current king, of course, grew up in a in a more stilted atmosphere of royals and their connection with the public. and i think that it's a great shame that that those who have been looking forward to meeting the princess of wales over the coming months will now be disappointed, even though they're engagements may just be postponed rather than cancelled. >> it's such an interesting tack that the monarchy has taken a very difficult balancing act in so many ways, because the whole point of a royal family is that they are slightly separate , but they are slightly separate, but slightly different, slightly gilded . you can't have a sort of gilded. you can't have a sort of stripped down royal family, but also this new generation seems so much more open and human and perhaps less aloof . perhaps less aloof. >> yeah, i think that's true. and i actually think king charles has very much wanted to have a more open, accessible monarchy. and he's he's led that . but yeah, i think the younger

generation, particularly, we do want more connection, more engagement. and catherine has been very much at the forefront of that . of that. >> well, absolutely. the interaction that they have onune interaction that they have online on social media, not just in their public engagement, it's where they visit. it's interesting you say that when where they visit. it's inte met1g you say that when where they visit. it's inte met her,)u say that when where they visit. it's inte met her, sheay that when where they visit. it's inte met her, she was at when where they visit. it's inte met her, she was so when where they visit. it's inte met her, she was so clearly you met her, she was so clearly interested in in people's lives. and that's what you need from a serving royal. that genuine care and interest, because they're meeting so many people day to day from absolutely all walks of life. so i guess we just want to wish her speedy recovery as we wish her a speedy recovery as we come to the end of our show. >> absolutely. yeah. a huge, a huge, lot of well wishes huge, uh, lot of well wishes from of us here at gb news from all of us here at gb news to the princess of wales, who, just repeat , to the princess of wales, who, just repeat, is in hospital just to repeat, is in hospital following successful planned abdominal surgery. she'll remain in hospital for 10 to 14 days. we've been joined here on the panel by, uh, the leader of ukip, neil hamilton mp bill rammell . our thanks to both of rammell. our thanks to both of those gentlemen for talking through these issues today. uh,

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