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there is more voting on now there is more voting on amendments and then if they decide to proceed, we're going to have the big one. the fed reading of the policy that let's face it, rishi sunak has made his one. what's going his flagship one. what's going to happen then? will this pass? will make its way to the will it make its way to the house of lords? and if it does, what will happen or will what will happen then? or will it come crashing down? we're it all come crashing down? we're going to it all tonight going to follow it all tonight on hour special. we'll on this one hour special. we'll have every single twist and turn. don't go anywhere . but turn. don't go anywhere. but before we get into that . yes, before we get into that. yes, indeed, a massive night for british politics. but you know what? there's also a lot of other things happening. let's cross live to polly middlehurst for tonight's latest. news. >> michelle, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story on gp news tonight is that
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his majesty king charles is due to go to hospital for the treatment of an enlarged prostate at buckingham palace said today . the condition is said today. the condition is benign but his majesty will be admitted next week for a corrective procedure. the monarch's public engagements will be postponed for a short period. we're told of recuperation and also today, kensington palace confirmed the princess of wales has undergone an abdominal surgery yesterday . an abdominal surgery yesterday. today's planned operation was deemed a success and it's understood her condition isn't cancer related . she's expected cancer related. she's expected to remain in hospital for up to 14 days before continuing her recovery at home. princess catherine isn't expected , catherine isn't expected, though, to return to public dufies though, to return to public duties until after easter and she's apologised for having to postpone her upcoming engagements as well. the royal broadcaster and author michael cole said the public shouldn't now speculate . now speculate. >> these days they get the patients out of hospital as soon as possible, back on their feet, so that also does indicate the
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seriousness of the nature of whatever it is that is ailing her. it is typical and commendable that the princess of wales , one of the things she wales, one of the things she said in that statement or had said in that statement or had said on her behalf, is that she hopes to reinstate all the engagements that will obviously have to be cancelled while she undergoes this procedure, recovers from it . recovers from it. >> michael cole well, while the government is being pressed for a second night on the strength of its rwanda bill, multiple amendments are being tabled for this evening . as you've been this evening. as you've been heanng this evening. as you've been hearing full coverage of the outcomes those votes outcomes of those votes throughout michelle dewberry show up next and the rest show coming up next and the rest of the evening on gp news and critical to the prime minister's stop the boats policy. eight small vessels been small vessels have been intercepted trying cross the intercepted trying to cross the engush intercepted trying to cross the english today . around english channel today. around 350 people have now been brought to shore in dover, even as the weather continues to deteriorate . the latest arrivals are the
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first since the weekend after five people drowned just off the french on monday . labour french coast on monday. labour party veteran mp sir tony lloyd died today at the age of 73. he served the constituency of rochdale as a politician as well across greater manchester for 40 years. he had been receiving treatment for leukaemia, his family's paid tribute to his life spent serving and making a difference to the lives of those he . met now a rapid review has he. met now a rapid review has been launched after the bodies of a toddler and his father were found in lincolnshire. two year old bronson battersby is thought to have starved to death after his dad, kenneth, suffered a heart attack. they were last seen alive on boxing day. social workers visited the property in skegness on the 2nd of january, but there was no answer at the doon but there was no answer at the door. their bodies were discovered five days later. his family has accused social services of failing the child. one neighbour, mark blaydon ,
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one neighbour, mark blaydon, said he wasn't surprised . said he wasn't surprised. >> totally tragic . but as i say, >> totally tragic. but as i say, you get the feeling down here sometimes it's not out of the ordinary. uh, because these things have kind of happened before, uh, with police presents down here and there have been deaths down here before. so, um , deaths down here before. so, um, it's wrong. it's tragic that it's wrong. it's tragic that it's such a small child as well, but it's something that you kind of harden yourself to in the street here. you're expecting something to happen, which you shouldn't feel like that . shouldn't feel like that. >> politicians in northern ireland have again failed to elect a speaker, which means the midnight deadline to restore power sharing won't be met. the stormont session was suspended after the assembly was recalled for the sixth time in almost two years. northern ireland's secretary chris heaton—harris, says it is disappointing, but the government will continue with its pragmatic approach to supporting the region and some news that's come to us within the last half an hour or so. the
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hollywood actor arnold schwarzenegger has been held, we understand, at munich airport in germany for allegedly failing to declare an expensive watch , declare an expensive watch, which they say he was planning to sell. the 76 year old terminator actor was quizzed under tax law , according to under tax law, according to customs officials, over an unregistered luxury watch. he was planning to auction. that's according to german media. arnold schwarzenegger is expected to be able to continue his journey later in the day, but the former california governor was told by a customs spokesperson that the watch will probably have to stay and not go with him. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel. thank you very much for that, polly. >> well, i am michelle dewberry. i'm live here in westminster. right through with you guys till 7:00 tonight here on dewbs& co and i've got a panel for you fit
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for a massive day in british politics. none other than the conservative life peer daniel moylan. good evening to you also as well. gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson. welcome also to you. uh, now, look, guys, this is going to be a fast moving, uh, very intense show tonight because it is a massive day in british politics. we saw , didn't we, the politics. we saw, didn't we, the drama as it unfolded yesterday. we saw in fact live during this programme last night. we had the resignations , didn't we? some resignations, didn't we? some would say the sackings that is been a debate that's been raging on, i can tell you. but the resignations of lee anderson, uh, as well this programme, uh, as well on this programme, huge reaction from you guys, uh, to that story last night, didn't we? we debated that at length. well, conversation rumbles well, that conversation rumbles on does the amendment on today, as does the amendment voting for this rwanda bill and the big one as well. if it happens, the fed reading of this policy, is it ever going to get off the ground? is it going to go to this lot, the house of
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lords and what will they make to it? we're going to have all it? we're going to have it all live tonight from westminster. and you know the drill, don't you? not about us you? it's not just about us three. it's very much about you guys home. me what guys at home. so tell me what you to it all. you can get you make to it all. you can get in all the usual ways. in touch all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. or you can tweet me x me whatever you want to call it at. gb news, because you will be very much a part of this show tonight. and do you know what? i get it, this is all quite complex. and all these amendments. what do they mean? how is it all going to work? worry we're going worry not. we're going to handhold this handhold you through this tonight. on that vein, tonight. uh, and on that vein, shall i cross live to our political christopher shall i cross live to our politic.he christopher shall i cross live to our politic. he c in stopher shall i cross live to our politic.he c in westminster hope? he is over in westminster hall. uh, good evening to you, christopher. let me start. christopher. hope let me start. if i may, i will do my best. i want to do my to best explain to everybody what is going on, make sure that everybody understands. so can you, first of all, bring us up to speed with the day's going on? please >> well, michelle, welcome to
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you and the viewers of your show to historic 1000 year old westminster hall here for what could be a historic night in politics and certainly certainly one to remember for rishi sunak and his government. now, tonight, around seven amendments might be debated and voted on, um, to this rwanda bill. and if we are waiting to see how those, those amendments end up, the three you need to think about are amendment number 11 that talks about disapplying elements of the human rights act, which we when we when migrants are being sent across across to rwanda. that's the first thing. the second one is one about rule 39, so—called pyjama orders. so wait and see what happens there. and then a labour one, a new clause. 13 that will be very interesting too. um, we just checking on my phone. nothing has happened to my phone, but i'll carry on. um, and then, of course, mps right now are meeting a committee room near meeting in a committee room near near out what to do near here to work out what to do next. and of the mps who was next. and one of the mps who was in meeting was robin miller in that meeting was robin miller
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mp. and he joins me now for gb news. robin how was that meeting these night? 60 mps voted these last night? 60 mps voted against rwanda plan. you are against the rwanda plan. you are one of them. it one of one of them. was it one of angen one of them. was it one of anger, fury resigned acceptance of a policy that won't work. >> i think you could characterise it as being serious . uh, thoughtful and actually passionate about the people in that group. and i'm one of them. we're really concerned about this. we think this is an important matter for the nation , important matter for the nation, but we think it's important but we also think it's important because residents because our residents are telling when listen to telling us when we listen to what tell us, what our constituents tell us, that's when understand this that's when we understand this matters. this matters to residents. we've all seen the polling, says right across polling, which says right across the of the country, the majority of people enough, need to people saying enough, we need to stop our interest is stop this. so our interest is simply coming with a bill simply in coming up with a bill that that close that works, that will close those loopholes and will make sure um , people who sure that, um, people who shouldn't be here and are coming illegally can be returned quickly. >> and we can reveal now on gb news that jacob rees—mogg, one of a former of your colleagues, a former cabinet minister, of course, was in he's walked out in that meeting. he's walked out . is voting for the rwanda . he is voting for the rwanda bill. is that a blow?
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>> no. and you make it sound that he's he's walked out that he's like he's walked out with a tantrum. i jacob, with a tantrum. i know jacob, i know position on and know his position on this and his think it's for his views. and i think it's for each individual member work each individual member to work out their mind. there's out their own mind. there's a variety of views for sure. um i don't think it's a blow because what this is about, this what this process is about, this committee stage and we're still in it, we haven't voted on it yet. expecting the to yet. we're expecting the bell to ring at any moment. but what this is is about this stage is about is about testing these and testing these ideas and persuading colleagues. we persuading colleagues. look, we think this is an extra loophole. it this is it is open. we think this is a measure needs to be measure that needs to be tightened further. this is what the debate, this democracy the debate, this is democracy in the debate, this is democracy in the it really m atters. matters. >> and we're here with gb news covering it with you. do you think that amanda, amendment 23 should by the should be accepted by the government? the government? that is the amendment write in in law amendment to write in in law that the officials to that the officials have to follow ministers must follow and ministers must follow, me. rule follow, ignore. forgive me. rule 39 the european 39 orders from the european court. for the benefit of the >> so for the benefit of the viewers, it's taken me some effort my head around it effort to get my head around it too. essentially making too. but essentially it's making it's shifting presumption it's shifting the presumption from accept a clause from one of we accept a clause 39 judgement from one of we accept a clause 39judgement strasbourg, 39 judgement by strasbourg, which keep the flight
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which means we keep the flight on the ground. so last june , it on the ground. so last june, it was june 22nd. the flight that didn't take off was stopped by a judgement from strasbourg. a clause judgement. so what clause 39 judgement. so what we've tried to do with our amendment 23 shift the amendment 23 is shift the presumption accepting that presumption from accepting that to one of refusing it, and then giving the minister the exceptional powers. if the minister thought it was necessary to take that clause 39 and stop the flight. but the presumption would be that the flight leave. why flight would leave. that's why it matters. >> heard that? heard >> have you heard that? heard that be accepted by the government? >> well, it's down the vote. >> well, it's down to the vote. the government indicated the government hasn't indicated one another on that. it's one way or another on that. it's again, democracy in the again, this is democracy in the raw. are votes that raw. these are votes that have been cast. glad that you're been cast. i'm glad that you're here to cover it, because this is what all about. is what it is all about. >> robin, if the bill is >> well, robin, if the bill is unamended, goes to third unamended, it goes to third reading after an hour long debate. reading debate. the third reading vote, the could be around the big one could be around 9 pm. tonight. how will you vote p.m. tonight. how will you vote in i really don't know. >> i really don't know. amendment put your amendment 23, you've put your finger the money. this is finger on the money. this is a really important amendment for me. listened colleagues me. i've listened to colleagues debating the points debating it. i mean, the points
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they've made, example, about they've made, for example, about they've made, for example, about the issues these the echr, which issues these judgements, something the echr, which issues these judg in|ents, something the echr, which issues these judgin|ents, a something the echr, which issues these judgin|ents, a body something the echr, which issues these judgin|ents, a body thatiething the echr, which issues these judgin|ents, a body that usedg that in 2005, a body that used to its powers and as to extend its own powers and as a result, you wonder about the validity some of those validity of some of those judgements. it reaches so listening carefully. and listening very carefully. and these decisive these votes will be decisive and, really informative and, and really informative of what to do. what we then decide to do. >> looks bad though. the tory >> it looks bad though. the tory party fighting mean 60 mps party fighting i mean 60 mps thinking will plan thinking this will under plan won't that's obviously now thinking this will under plan wtop that's obviously now thinking this will under plan wtop a that's obviously now thinking this will under plan wtop a message s obviously now thinking this will under plan wtop a message on bviously now thinking this will under plan wtop a message on onerly now thinking this will under plan wtop a message on one ofy now thinking this will under plan wtop a message on one of these a top a message on one of these labour party election leaflets later this year. are you not helping rishi sunak are you? i couldn't disagree more. >> conservatism is alive and well and within the conservative party . i know some of your party. i know some of your viewers may not think so, but i promise you it is this battle of ideasis promise you it is this battle of ideas is so important, and i actually welcome the fact that people can see it and with great respect to the press and the media, know you love a fight media, i know you love a fight and isn't one, you try and if there isn't one, you try and if there isn't one, you try and one. in this and create one. but in this case, i assure you there is case, i can assure you there is unanimity in the conservative party parliament fix party here in parliament to fix this is a question
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this problem. this is a question about do gap about how do we do it, the gap between us. i heard somebody say earlier today is inches compare that chasm that's between that to the chasm that's between us party who us and the labour party who voted times to prevent voted over 80 times to prevent any toughening voted over 80 times to prevent anytoughening immigration voted over 80 times to prevent anytoughining immigration voted over 80 times to prevent any toughining chamber. ation measures in the chamber. do you worry unamended worry that the bill unamended will not actually work, which is what robert will not actually work, which is what and robert will not actually work, which is what and other robert will not actually work, which is what and other colleagueszrt will not actually work, which is what and other colleagues of jenrick and other colleagues of yours us? yours have been saying to us? >> add two >> i would possibly add two words and that is well words to that, and that is well enough. >> so the concern is that it needs work better. there's needs to work better. there's no doubt has doubt that the bill has presented further presented moves things further forward. that forward. let's not forget that we immigration, an we have cut immigration, an illegal immigration quarter for 23 was 64% down on quarter 422 in in 2022. so there are significant gains being made . significant gains being made. i'm of the view. it's not enough. and the question is will this bill do it? i think it will help. but i'm concerned and want to make it work even better . to make it work even better. >> well, heard there >> well, you heard there michelle robin miller there , one michelle robin miller there, one of the tory mps who is in this key meeting. he won't say what the meeting is decided. the meeting is still on going. he's very us on news very kindly joined us on gb news tonight, big tonight, but it's quite a big night tory party if night here for tory party if
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they this measure, this they can get this measure, this bill right, of course. labour party actually party said it would actually withdraw bill it wins withdraw the bill if it wins power, it act even power, it will act the bill even if working. becomes if it's working. that becomes a very political very contentious political issue. we have a labour issue. if we have a labour government, next one, next time after the election. so fascinating there from fascinating stuff there from robin . robin miller. >> fascinating indeed. >> that is fascinating indeed. before you go for a few before i let you go for a few minutes at least, i am sure just remind everyone, summarise remind everyone, just summarise the timings then for the key timings then for tonight. when do think these tonight. when do we think these amendments going to amendments votes are going to start ? start happening? >> okay. are we expect around seven amendment amendments to be voted on tonight? again, not decided yet by the speaker . decided yet by the speaker. they're voting on those. could start as early as 630 during your show . there are three to your show. there are three to look out for. amendment 11 and this this measure will ensure that the human rights act is fully disapplied both in this bill and the illegal migration bill, 2023. in relation to those removed to rwanda arriving here illegally, are deported to rwanda . i should say. the second rwanda. i should say. the second one is amendment 23, which robin miller is the one who was talking about. there that's the
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one. i think the rebels really want to see enacted in writing , want to see enacted in writing, in this, in this act. but want to see enacted in writing, in this, in this act . but it in this, in this act. but it will say that the default position orders that any any rule, any rule 39 orders, so—called pyjama injunctions, are binding on the uk , are not are binding on the uk, are not viewed as binding on the uk, not treated as binding on the uk, and will not prevent removal to rwanda. that's a really important is what we heard from the sunak to gb news the pm rishi sunak to gb news viewers on monday leigh viewers on monday in leigh on sea. said he willing to sea. he said he is willing to overrule the so—called pyjama injunctions from the european european court. people like robin miller next to me want to see that writing, in the see that in writing, in the bill. so a future labour government can't just just government can't just can't just reverse what the pm has said to our to our views on monday. a third look out for new third one to look out for new clause 13 nc 13. this is a. this is a clause which makes the operation of the act. um must must ensure that that this the monitoring committee is established under the treaty to ensure that people are sent to rwanda, are treated fairly, but
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of course, the overarching one, assuming those three amendments and the others, which are more procedural they fail. we procedural, they all fail. we are facing this moment of choice for tory mps. in their third reading at 9 pm. we've already heard what others might do. sir jacob rees—mogg , of course, the jacob rees—mogg, of course, the presenter normally on gb news but also a mp . he said he but also a tory mp. he said he will vote in favour of that bill. let's see how many others might join him. >> fascinating stuff christopher, we will be speaking to you throughout the hour. i am sure, but for now, thank you very much . let's cross then to very much. let's cross then to nigel nelson . what do you make nigel nelson. what do you make then to some of the goings on of then to some of the goings on of the day? well i think they've all gone mad . all gone mad. >> um, at the moment the conservative, the tories or all of them . oh, i think the thing of them. oh, i think the thing the tory party they seem to be ripping themselves apart. that that are that , um, that these are things that, um, almost make it guarantee they won't win the next election unless they were told their unless they were told by their election , isaac levido election guru, isaac levido dunng election guru, isaac levido during the week , divided parties during the week, divided parties don't win elections . this is a
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don't win elections. this is a completely divided party, like a political polling guru. >> two point that out because if my three year old could speak better, he'd probably be able to articulate that to them. that is just absolute basics. >> yes. i mean, your year >> yes. i mean, your three year old actually talked old hasn't actually talked to the levido did. the tory mps. isaac levido did. but absolutely but yes, you're absolutely right. obvious that right. it is quite obvious that the way the tory party had behaved that they behaved thing, um, is that they almost determined to lose the next election . next election. >> um, is a little bit, um, >> um, it is a little bit, um, your party, daniel. lord >> um, it is a little bit, um, your party, daniel . lord moylan, your party, daniel. lord moylan, to give you your correct title . to give you your correct title. it is a little bit like a blue on blue civil war in some regards, isn't it? >> well, the fact is that what many tory mps want to see is a bill that's going to work. we've tried this several times. we seem the only country in the world that's incapable of controlling its own borders, and we've tried this several times and we failed . and there is and we failed. and there is a dispute, a reasonable dispute between those people who think that the bill doesn't have enough powers to make it work , enough powers to make it work, and those who think it, it does .
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and those who think it, it does. but driving the people but what is driving the people who it does is not the who think it does is not the effectiveness of the bill as such , but the fact that they're such, but the fact that they're desperate, not to cross certain red lines about international law. >> right. but help me understand something, right? because, um , something, right? because, um, you know, i was explaining this yesterday, one of the tory mps was well, we're not was saying, well, we're not a cult. don't all the same cult. we don't all have the same thought all think thought process. we all think differently. so what you just said fine fair said then is fine and fair enough. people have different opinions, different perspectives and you and different ideas on how you achieve fine in my achieve the outcomes. fine in my old would do you just old nana would say, do you just don't your dirty in don't air your dirty laundry in public? you've of public? so if you've got all of these disagreeing all these disagreeing points and all these disagreeing points and all the it different the rest of it in different positions, why is harmony not found behind closed doors before some of this stuff is even written up and makes its way to the commons? >> there enough >> well, there aren't enough closed doors behind which to do all this. the trouble. all of this. that's the trouble. there are many disputes in the conservative party as i'm sure there are in the labour party that sorted privately, that are sorted out privately, and of the roles of and that's one of the roles of the and they do that. but the whips. and they do that. but there things where there are certain things where there are certain things where the the the government, either the government or
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government won't give way or the intransigence both is intransigence on both sides, is such that the right place to do this is actually as robin miller said, is democracy in public. and can actually see the and people can actually see the argument happening. it might not help electoral reputation. help the electoral reputation. i grant you that. and isaac levido has a point. but but the fact is that sometimes these things have to be argued out in public. and i think it's good that the pubuc i think it's good that the public can see things being argued out. i completely disagree the disagree with nigel that the tory party gone mad over tory party has gone mad over this. bill has to work. if this. this bill has to work. if you get, you know, get this bill through and let's say it goes through and let's say it goes through the lords and we'll discuss later . discuss that later. >> let's see maybe >> maybe let's see maybe definitely. definitely. >> maybe let's see maybe defirofely. definitely. >> maybe let's see maybe defirofely. aspectsely. >> maybe let's see maybe defirofely. aspects of the one of the key aspects of the show i want everyone at home tonight. >> let's say this gets >> let's say this bill gets on the book in the next the statute book in the next couple of months. and the first thing when try thing that happens when you try to out of the to put a plane going out of the country the way rwanda, is country on the way to rwanda, is that it's grounded a in that it's grounded by a judge in strasbourg out strasbourg who's hauled out of bed of the night bed in the middle of the night with proper papers front with no proper papers in front of him. if that happens, of him. um, if that happens, then the government's going to look is look a complete patsy and it is not helpful to the not going to be helpful to the conservative in to
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conservative party in any or to the in sense at all. the country in any sense at all. so it's really crucial that the bill has enough powers in it to make flights take make sure those flights can take off. and there are people who think, of them have think, and some of them have experienced robin robert jenrick, a home jenrick, of course, was a home office he office minister and he understands subject the understands the subject from the inside. they think the government has not gone far enough because of their sensitivity about these international requirements. >> um, michelle from stanbridge, she says this whole scheme is a smokescreen. >> whilst everyone is busy pontificating about rwanda , they pontificating about rwanda, they are. they are ignoring the huge, huge amount of net migration in this country. of course you make an interesting point there. um, michelle, this is, of course all about stopping these so—called illegal crossings in the channel. you're quite right. net migration is absolutely sky, sky high, richard says michelle, um, the 350 odd migrants that have arrived this year so far could probably do a betterjob of running the country than the conservative lives that we currently have in government. um
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chernihiv says if the tory rebels do not block this rwanda bill, with all their bluster , bill, with all their bluster, then basically they're going to prove how spineless they all are and they're more concerned and that they're more concerned about keeping their jobs for the next months rather than next few months rather than sticking to their principles. and, raise and, keith, you actually raise a very point and very important point and question because at the heart of all of this, we'll be all of this, and we'll be looking as well after looking at this as well after the because , uh, indeed, the break, because, uh, indeed, as of viewers pointed as one of my viewers pointed out, there's been more crossings again but i'll ask again today. right. but i'll ask you at home. you think you this at home. do you think we're our way a little we're losing our way a little bit this was bit here because this bill was supposed how does supposed to be about how does this move forward in this government move forward in the to stop boats ? the best way to stop the boats? how has it become more about do you think, how does this government order government move forward in order to jobs ? is that to keep their jobs? is that creeping in? you tell get in creeping in? you tell me. get in touch at gb com touch gb views at gb news. com this is our one hour special on the state of british politics tonight. don't go anywhere. i'll see in two.
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>> well, good evening to you. i am michelle dewberry live from westminster with you till 7:00 tonight. this is a massive day for british politics, and we are with you with the events in parliament throughout the hour. of course, the topic on the table today, what else? rishi sunak's flagship policy now on how on earth you stop the boats. the focus, of course, on this rwanda bill. lots of amendments coming down the pike to be voted on, starting imminently. coming down the pike to be voted on, starting imminently . we'll on, starting imminently. we'll be looking at all of that as it happens. will this bill actually make to its third reading? make it to its third reading? that could that crucial vote that could actually, regards , actually, in some regards, see the sunak's the end of rishi sunak's premiership. what do you make to it all? do you get what's going on? following this? do on? are you following this? do you about this? you in you care about this? are you in the where you just the camp now? where you just think, you know none of think, do you know what none of this make a blind of this will make a blind bit of difference, because this will make a blind bit of differewhat? because this will make a blind bit of differewhat? none because this will make a blind bit of differewhat? none ofecause this will make a blind bit of differewhat? none of these guess what? none of these flights will take off. whatever this i can tell you, this bill says, i can tell you, lots are getting touch lots of you are getting in touch with tonight , and are with me tonight, and you are really on your opinion. really divided on your opinion. so keep them coming in.
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vaiews@gbnews.com alongside me for the remainder of the show . for the remainder of the show. i've got none other than lord moylan. of course, the tory life peer and gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson. we've also got christopher hope live in westminster hall for us, so we'll be doing a lot of jumping around. one of the key components that we've just been looking at is the amendments coming down the pike tonight, daniel. if of course, this daniel. but if of course, this bill makes it to the third reading, then going your reading, then it's going to your house, yeah, house, the house of lords. yeah, i'm going to you to dust off i'm going to ask you to dust off a crystal ball, if you will give it a little bit of a rub and tell me what you predict might happen it hits your house. happen once it hits your house. >> well, the house of lords is a very left wing house the very left wing house on the whole, of whole, it has a majority of people feel very strongly in people who feel very strongly in favour of immigration and are very tender towards illegal migrants and feel we have responsibilities towards them . i responsibilities towards them. i don't count myself necessarily , don't count myself necessarily, as you might have gathered as part of that tendency in the house of lords and i'm a little bit isolated and the fact is,
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there are a lot of people who will be opposed to this bill, and they will try to amend it. um make it to their um to make it more to their liking, will be, i think , liking, which will be, i think, taking out of the stuff taking out a lot of the stuff the government has put in. and i think there's very good chance think there's a very good chance those will that those amendments will pass that isn't right. >> pause on that thought >> so just pause on that thought slot. crystal ball slot. you see the crystal ball has and it's all has been rubbed and it's all flowing from lord moylan. i'll pick that in just pick back up on that in just a second. told i'd cross second. but i told you i'd cross back christopher hope at some back to christopher hope at some point, and i shall. christopher hope, westminster point, and i shall. christopher hope, eveningstminster point, and i shall. christopher hope, eveningstnyou er point, and i shall. christopher hope, eveningstnyou .r hall. good evening to you. >> good evening michelle. the meeting of the rebels has now broken up. now, sources outside that meeting are reporters and colleagues from gb news have told me that the majority of people in that meeting, as they left, will be voting for this bill. third, reading around 40 or so tory mps in there. so majority that's more than more than 20 or so. that brings down that number of 60 rebels down to 40. they need around 30 to defeat the government . so it's defeat the government. so it's
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looking more more optimistic that mr sunak's bill can survive the evening. i'm joined now by jack brereton. he's a tory mp from stoke on trent south. now he did vote last night for those amendments. how will you be voting on third reading if the bill is unamended, mr brereton? >> well, i think i'll probably support it at third reading. obviously s obviously my constituent s want me the possible bill me to get the best possible bill in place, that's why i've in place, and that's why i've supported the amendments, because sure because we want to make sure this works, to make this actually works, to make sure that we have the most robust bill on rwanda, possibly so that can implement that so that we can implement that policy. but i do think to wreck the whole bill would not be quite right. >> explain to viewers >> just explain to viewers how it that vote to amend it is that you can vote to amend the bill. last night, but vote in favour of the unamended bill tonight . tonight. >> well, these amendments are about trying to improve the bill to try and make it tougher. and i my duty as a member of i think my duty as a member of parliament stoke on trent parliament for stoke on trent south is to deliver what my constituents want, which is the toughest possible bill that we can so that we can have on rwanda so that we can have on rwanda so that we can and deliver. see
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can get on and deliver. see those flights going off to rwanda as soon as possible and, you know, actually what i think is , is absolutely what my is, is absolutely what my constituents want to see is that we get on with that. and so to wreck this bill completely , i wreck this bill completely, i think would not be able to do what that what those constituents want. so i think we do have to have a bill and to try and wreck the whole thing would wrong. would be wrong. >> course, rebels on >> well, of course, rebels on your side of the fence would say we can induce the we can they can induce the government introduce a new government can introduce a new bill on thursday incorporating elements of the concerns in robert jenrick and even sir bill cash's amendments. >> well, i think they have to be careful because if they're going to that's just to introduce a bill that's just been given, one has just been defeated, it would have to be quite terms of its quite different in terms of its context you couldn't context. you couldn't just introduce the same or introduce exactly the same or very similar bill. again so i think that would create a hurdle. but my constituents have sent here to get on with sent me here to get on with this, to deliver on rwanda. and i think, you know, the reality is that the alternatives are far
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worse. and i think if we look at the opposition, what the opposition to opposition are trying to do, they're to get holes in they're trying to get holes in it. they've repeatedly tried to stop rwanda. the lefty lawyers that the labour party back, you know, have repeatedly tried to get holes in this bill. and that's what they want to do. they want to undermine this. they want to undermine this. they don't flights go they don't want flights to go off. that's why i've off. and that's why i've supported these amendments because want have because we don't want to have any loopholes any possible loopholes that would from being would prevent this from being implemented. >> same token, though, >> by the same token, though, the bill will have the unamended bill will have loopholes. so loopholes loopholes. il so loopholes in. so what's the point of it? >> well, there have been some assurances that have been given by . i'd like to by ministers. i'd like them to go further. absolutely. that's why i supported amendments . why i supported the amendments. you this to work. you know, i want this to work. absolutely. this to work. absolutely. i want this to work. and across this , and i know people across this, uh, you know, across the conservative party want this to be delivered . but the reality is be delivered. but the reality is that actually the opposition, the labour party , have the labour party, have repeatedly tried to stop this . repeatedly tried to stop this. they have flip flopped all over the place. they don't have a single plan on what they would
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do. would actually do. instead, they would actually undermine with undermine this completely with all their lefty lawyer friends that are continually trying to stop this policy from being implemented. they've actually ensured that rapists and murderers have actually been allowed to stay in the country rather than deporting them. and that's what they would want to do. again, rwanda , to stop do. again, with rwanda, to stop it being delivered, us it being delivered, stop us delivering deterrence delivering the proper deterrence that we need, which is absolutely meaning that we're seeing hundreds of people coming across the channel. >> labour will contest >> the labour party will contest those those claims about the rapists murderers . and rapists and murderers. and also they say they're they would say that they're measures power. measures that they win power. they will repeal this rwanda bill. and rely on greater rely on greater enforcement with with bodies on the continent to ensure that the boats are stopped. well even if it's working, they would undermine it. >> and i think that is absolutely ridiculous from the labour party that they would undermine something that would be .and undermine something that would be . and the idea that be working. and the idea that they are going to be to they are going to be able to work those on the continent work with those on the continent and do more we have done and do more than we have done is, frankly, for the is, quite frankly, for the birds. the reality is
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birds. you know, the reality is that the french government do not want to work with us. we've tried. we've have been able to bnng tried. we've have been able to bring forward some improvements to we're doing with the to what we're doing with the relationship the french . relationship with the french. but reality is that what sir but the reality is that what sir keir starmer wants to do is have a completely open borders policy , allow the floodgates to open to flooded more to be flooded with even more illegal migrants coming across the channel and would have no policy of actually to how deal with issues. with these issues. >> tonight, just finally, mr >> but tonight, just finally, mr bridgerton, how do you expect the vote to go? do you think this bill will pass? if so, what is majority ? is your majority? >> well, i think it'll be closer than we're used obviously in than we're used to. obviously in terms government majorities terms of government majorities here, do think it will here, but i do think it will pass by a slim margin and i think obviously then it will go up to the lords and we'll see how it goes from there. >> sir michelle gibb, you heard there. say it will there. jack bruton say it will pass by a slim majority, maybe there. jack bruton say it will pass bfigures| majority, maybe there. jack bruton say it will pass bfigures| maj
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in the lords is about to begin. perhaps lord moylan knows more about well there you go. about that. well there you go. >> you teed it up nicely for me, christopher. hope i see what you did thank very much did there. thank you very much for back to you, lord moylan. >> i'm just going to say putting down is down amendments to a bill is what happens in the lords. so if they decide a load they decide to put down a load of amendments of them they decide to put down a load of am
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general election . for the general election. for the commons, there's a procedure for the commons to reverse that. but it takes and that you it takes a year and that you don't have you don't have a year between now and general between now and the general election. and it's really election. and what it's really interesting what they decide to do irrespective whatever do and irrespective of whatever happens, um, tonight. >> and so forth, there's been a lot of suggestion , nigel, from lot of suggestion, nigel, from the labour party , that actually the labour party, that actually as soon as they came into power, they'd look to revoke all this stuff um, largely because >> yes. um, largely because there is no evidence it's evidence for it working, which is one of the reasons why it is a really weird piece of policy. um, so, yes , they would reverse um, so, yes, they would reverse it. and the kind of things that labour are looking at are using the money for a special police unit to disrupt the smuggling gangs. one of the most interesting ideas , i think, is interesting ideas, i think, is to set up a proper settlement scheme so people don't have to come here to claim asylum . they come here to claim asylum. they could claim asylum abroad , say could claim asylum abroad, say in a refugee camp or something like that . like that. >> and when i hear this kind of,
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um, response that, you know what, we're going to revoke this because there's no evidence it's going work . well, you going to work. well, you know what? is because we're what? this is because we're trying a radical solution . the trying a radical solution. the government, would government, i imagine, would argue that. and argue back to that. and when you're something for the you're trying something for the first what evidence do you first time, what evidence do you think's going to exist ? think's going to exist? >> well, this is how policy comes about. what you what you put together is the likelihood of something being success. and we've had the permanent secretary at the home office, the most senior official who refused to sign this off as value for money for the taxpayer because there was no evidence that this was actually going to work. so the government couldn't tell you how many people had arrived and how many people were deported and couldn't answer bafic deported and couldn't answer basic front of her basic questions in front of her select committee in the house of commons, you may you may question the competence of matthew rycroft . but i mean, he matthew rycroft. but i mean, he wouldn't sign it off. that was the point. >> i mean, i've got to say, i don't know how people dare. how can people involved politics can people involved in politics in and there in this day and age sit there with a straight and go, with a straight face and go, hmm, can't really that
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hmm, i can't really sign that off i think it off because i don't think it represents taxpayer value for money. i don't you money. i don't know how you dare. about £8 dare. you're spending about £8 million day on hotels, million a day on hotels, notwithstanding the fact that some of these a four star hotels . how dare you look forward and say all going forward? yeah, i don't think that's very effective cost when it comes to value for money. don't make me laugh. what do you guys all make to it? we're sticking with today's political events. a huge day for rishi sunak. we're live in westminster. we're not going anywhere. we're going to bring you speed every single you up to speed on every single twist turn of the evening. twist and turn of the evening. as it unfolds. i'll see you in two.
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travelling to italy earlier on gb news radio . gb news radio. >> well hello there, i'm michelle dewberry , this is dewbs michelle dewberry, this is dewbs & co live from westminster until 7:00 tonight. >> my panel, nigel nelson and lord moylan remain alongside me for now. let me just look at
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what you guys at home have to say on all the goings on in parliament today. this is a massive night for rishi sunak. what do you think is going to happen? get your crystal balls out everybody and tell me. talk to you this is to me. do you reckon this is going go way ? do you going to go his way? do you think he'll live to on think he'll live to fight on another day? we've been talking another day? we've been talking a about democracy. one of my a lot about democracy. one of my viewers, alison, says. what an absolute farce you lot are all saying. this is democracy in the raw, that you're seeing everyone tearing and throwing the way it should be. she's going. don't should be. she's going. i don't know der rishi know how they all der rishi sunak unelected pm. she sunak is an unelected pm. she puts that in massive capital letter. she means business there. paddy says. what a total and utter waste of time. all of this is not a single solitary migrant will ever be sent to rwanda . we need to stop them rwanda. we need to stop them coming. not pass them on. when they arrive here. i'll tell you something in a minute as well. they'll your water they'll make your eyes water because sitting because all while we're sitting here commons are toing here and the commons are toing and pontificating and froing and pontificating about rwanda, you won't believe the number of people that have already crossed the channel
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today. today , in multiple today. just today, in multiple births. i'll have that figure for you in just a few minutes. but before i share that with you, let's cross live back to westminster hall. christopher hope us live there. hope joins us live there. christopher, evening michelle. >> welcome back here to historic westminster hall. now, yesterday , three members of the government or the top team around mr sunak resigned over the rwanda bill. we know about what leandersson brendan what leandersson and brendan clarke—smith the former deputy chairs to but no one's chairs had to say. but no one's heard from jane stevenson. she was government aide, was a government aide, a political, parliamentary political, a parliamentary private secretary to kemi badenoch, and she's with me now. jane stevenson , thank you for jane stevenson, thank you for joining us here on gb news tonight. how big was it to resign over a government bill? >> um , it was unfortunate to >> um, it was unfortunate to have to resign , but that's the have to resign, but that's the deal have to resign, but that's the deal. if you if you want to speak out on on certain lines and i've done so much work on illegal migration, then it is really important to my constituent. so i wanted a tougher bill. >> and you may not get one if
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the bill is not amended tonight, if you don't get any amendments, will you vote for the bill at third reading? yeah i will, because we have bill. third reading? yeah i will, becso;e we have bill. third reading? yeah i will, becso;e think1ave bill. third reading? yeah i will, becso;e think what bill. third reading? yeah i will, becso;e think what i bill. third reading? yeah i will, becso;e think what i want >> so but i think what i want to focus on, if you listen to my comments in the committee stage in chamber, about in the chamber, it's about a bigger framework. rwanda is not the whole answer to this. we need those post—war need all those post—war frameworks and legal practices to be updated. they're not fit for purpose . and i spoke at for purpose. and i spoke at length about that. so that's what i want. the prime minister he announced in december to giorgia meloni . he said he was giorgia meloni. he said he was going to look that, and i going to look at that, and i want him to get a on with want him to get a move on with that because i think that will grasp nettle. ready grasp the nettle. europe's ready to conversation the to have that conversation in the us ready to have it. so us is ready to have it. so i think that's how properly get think that's how we properly get control borders. and jane control of our borders. and jane stevenson, of course, you spoke to sunak then and to rishi sunak since then and you on quite well. did he you got on quite well. did he huggedit you got on quite well. did he hugged it out? no, he he absolutely knows where i stand. he i feel that i'd he accepts. i just feel that i'd like a slightly tougher bill. some party think it some people in my party think it will now . now some people will work now. now some people want bit softer . so want it a little bit softer. so the know news the disagreements i know news teams like to get a good schism
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story. i don't think we're that divided on it. it'sjust, story. i don't think we're that divided on it. it's just, you know, if we look at the legal frameworks, the one nation are acting within frameworks. acting within those frameworks. we out . so i hope we can sort it out. so i hope we're just work progress to we're just work in progress to getting but time is not getting it done. but time is not well . well. >> jane jane stimson , who >> jane jane stimson, who resigned yesterday from the government of rwanda bill telling us and confirming to us she for the bill at she will vote for the bill at third reading tonight, that number mps, rebels , mps number of 60 mps, rebels, mps overnight, michelle is getting smaller and smaller. >> he certainly is not old nelson, let me ask you about this right. >> this is supposed to be a bill that's all about stopping these boat crossings, right? trying to get people to tear them over to rwanda . and i just want to tell rwanda. and i just want to tell you guys at home, i asked you just before, christopher, do you know how many people have crossed ? did crossed the channel today? did you do you know this you guess? do you know this number 350 people. bill. today i mean, it makes me want to fall off my chair in one regard. and in my other regard . it just
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in my other regard. it just makes me want to laugh because it's so ridiculous. and on the other regard, it makes me want to have steam up my ears because it's so, uh, preposterous. appalling. you know, are appalling. where you know, are we using this bill now , nigel? we using this bill now, nigel? honestly, politicians , are honestly, these politicians, are they using this to properly try and stop these crossings? or when hear people saying, oh, when we hear people saying, oh, yeah , you know, i'm going to yeah, you know, i'm going to stand by my principles , i'm stand by my principles, i'm going to have integrity, i'm going to vote with these amendments. to resign going to vote with these am
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to show that he that he's done something. won't stop the something. it won't stop the boats. the boats will keep coming . you've mentioned today's coming. you've mentioned today's figure. about the same. figure. that's about the same. the same number as we had all of 2018. so it shows the kind of problems that we're facing . problems that we're facing. these people are desperate. they are not going to stop crossing the channel >> for what? >> for what? >> desperate for a safe haven somewhere. oh, come on, are we still talking? >> yes, we are, we're we're talking about from from syria. >> from france . france has got >> from france. france has got nothing to do with it. basically >> nigel, come these people. you're the one. >> well, these people, these people come from france. >> they are. they don't go >> they are. but they don't go to because they want to to calais because they want to go sightseeing in calais. they go sightseeing in calais. they go because want go to calais because they want to the uk. they've to come to the uk. they've either or either got family here or they've people they know they've got people they know here or they speak . here or they speak. >> saying this with a straight face. give me the speak face. don't give me the speak engush face. don't give me the speak english line. seen how english line. have you seen how much spend on much money we spend on translators this country, translators in this country, which get head which i can't get my head around, apparently around, given that apparently everyone comes everyone that speaks here, comes here, speaks such good english, why do we need all the
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translators then? what you translators then? what do you make that these make to this line that these people crossing these people are crossing these channels men, channels predominantly men, um, who safety . who are desperate for safety. their, countries their, their home, um, countries , etc. so unsafe that they've left all their family there. um, and , the place that so and france, the place that so many of us go on holiday to. that's apparently also desperately . do desperately unsafe. well do you why line still being peddled? >> all right. look, so amongst these people, there will be some people desperately these people, there will be some people because desperately these people, there will be some people because they're tely fleeing because they're worried about in france. about their lives in france. well they're worried about their lives back in france . lives back in france. >> france? >> france? >> can i i'm sorry. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you go, go on. but there will be a very large number. >> we suspect, who are leaving their because they their home country because they see economic prospects see better economic prospects in, they're in, in, in europe. and they're attracted britain because attracted to britain because they members they might have family members or here as or other connections here as opposed to or or opposed to germany or latvia or wherever else they might go. so there'll be very large number of those, and they are not coming here in desperate poverty. they are having laid out are coming here having laid out several thousand pounds to to several thousand pounds to a to business, agency, an business, a travel agency, an illegal criminal conspiracy, travel agency , which is travel agency, which is operating a very profitable
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business under the nose of europe's and britain's police forces and what the effort in the effort here is to make it unprofitable for those for that business to operate because people would not lay out as they're required to at the moment, 3 or £4000, sometimes £5,000, which they have got. lay out that money in order to get to britain. if they knew that, would they got to britain? there was a high chance that they would be sent somewhere and would be sent somewhere else and to evidence for to say there's no evidence for this working, it is the sort of approach australia approach that australia adopted when boats when they had all the boats crossing and they sent them not to a foreign but to to a foreign country, but to an island australia's control island under australia's control . but it was but it was very much offshore law not what much offshore law and not what people expecting , because people were expecting, because you're the business you're disrupting the business model of these criminal gangs. well, there you go. >> you guys think to >> what do you guys think to this? i'll be bringing you in after this very short break. i'll in two.
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hello there. michelle dewberry live from westminster until 7:00 tonight. tory life peer daniel moylan, alongside me. as is the gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson . on commentator nigel nelson. on this massive night for british politics. uh, you guys again have been getting in touch, john says michelle, why are these births not being turned back ? births not being turned back? nobody seems to be able to answer that question, jim. of course , this bill will pass course, this bill will pass tonight. michelle, these circle rebels mouth and no rebels are all mouth and no trousers . rebels are all mouth and no trousers. i'm sick rebels are all mouth and no trousers . i'm sick the lot of trousers. i'm sick of the lot of them. vincent why are we paying them. vincent why are we paying the french stop these the french to stop these migrants? when we're not migrants? when? when we're not able send back who able to send people back who don't passports them? don't have passports on them? uh, a farce . says many uh, this is a farce. says many people. lots of people. people. um lots of people. i mean , i'm not really getting the mean, i'm not really getting the vision that there's a lot of people that are sitting here today high fiving the process and thinking that it's all well and thinking that it's all well and key and good. there's three key amendments that perhaps voting is be starting on is going to be starting on
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imminently speak. um, it's imminently as we speak. um, it's this rule 39 one, the pyjama ruling, which basically grounded the plane in 2022. there's an interesting amendment as well about the costings as well as being tabled by, um, labour. i want a prediction from you, nigel nelson. what do you think the evening tonight is going to hold? >> i think that the government will um, and you're looking will win. um, and you're looking at a rebellion of somewhere between 12 and 2012 and 20. >> right. you all got your, >> right. have you all got your, um, tape recorders on? are um, your tape recorders on? are you that we're going um, your tape recorders on? are yo hold that we're going um, your tape recorders on? are yo hold it that we're going um, your tape recorders on? are yo hold it to that we're going um, your tape recorders on? are yo hold it to these we're going um, your tape recorders on? are yo hold it to these guys going um, your tape recorders on? are yo hold it to these guys and1g to hold it to these guys and we'll they get lord we'll see how they get on. lord moylan, predictions the moylan, your predictions for the evening, please. >> if bill is >> i think if the bill is unamended, it pass at third unamended, it will pass at third reading evening. there's reading this evening. there's every that i every indication of that i wouldn't predict what wouldn't want to predict by what margin, i think it's worth margin, but i think it's worth watching. why be a brave man? i think it's worth watching some of abstentions, because think it's worth watching some of might ntions, because think it's worth watching some of might nticsomezcause think it's worth watching some of might nticsome of use think it's worth watching some of might nticsome of the there might be some of the tory mps who bring themselves mps who can't bring themselves to vote against the bill. but um, just find um, but might just find themselves wandering down the corridor voting at all. corridor and not voting at all. and course, two of those are and of course, two of those are equivalent against. >> see, i think that's >> you see, i think that's unaccept i think on a on unacceptable. i think on a on a
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position is so important , position that is so important, such, uh, important national importance to people to sit there and say abstain . i don't there and say abstain. i don't think good enough, the think that's good enough, by the way. reminding on way. i'm just reminding you on the if you're the screen, uh, if you're looking at this is, this looking at what this is, this is yesterday these, amendments yesterday, these, uh, amendments that going through that have been going through just reminding you of those votes will whiz through those as we talking. you can we are talking. just so you can all um, lance says, all remember, um, lance says, i'd love to know what rishi, uh, has to say about those 300 odd people that arrived today on those eight boats. i don't know what rishi sunak might say to that, lance, but i know what i say that. it is an absolute say to that. it is an absolute joke. uh, do you think that this bill will, in any way, shape or form, uh, go some way to fixing this situation ? i really, really this situation? i really, really don't know, theresa said. it's an absolute farce. what's gone on today? um someone else here says it's time to bring in the army. that steve, um. he's talking tough. there is this what? we need our military to be getting involved in? um, lots of people are saying that this is all about people trying to keep
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hold of their jobs, rather than trying to stop these births. well, it will all be unfolding tonight. gb news is going to carry on with our live coverage of this, these amendments. what is going to happen? who is going to rebel? what will that number look like? will bill go to look like? will this bill go to its reading? it get its third reading? will it get passed? it make its way to passed? will it make its way to the of lords? well, let's the house of lords? well, let's face it, all bets will be off by about what happens there . rishi about what happens there. rishi sunak was sweating last night. i bet he's sweating tonight too. but that's all for now, lord moylan, you, nigel nelson. moylan, thank you, nigel nelson. thank more importantly, thank you. more importantly, thank . at home. don't go thank you. at home. don't go anywhere. gb news will stick with this a brighter outlook with this a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. i'm annie shuttleworth, it's going to be a very cold start once again tomorrow morning with an amber snow warning in force for
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northern areas of scotland. that's where we're seeing the most snow being most frequent snow showers being brought this northerly brought in on this northerly wind. we've got arctic air across. uk has been across. much of the uk has been across. much of the uk has been a cloud around across the a bit of cloud around across the south that will generally clear away through evening to away through the evening to leave skies much leave clear skies across much of the uk . so it's going to be a the uk. so it's going to be a very cold night that will allow temperatures to really drop down. we be as low as down. we could be down as low as minus really quite widely minus ten really quite widely across but coldest across the uk, but the coldest temperatures again temperatures once again in scottish glens, we're expecting lows of around —18 degrees by tomorrow morning . however, there tomorrow morning. however, there will be a good deal of dry and crisp sunny weather across the uk through thursday , but snow uk through thursday, but snow showers will still continue to move in so there is a continued risk of some ice on any untreated roads, mainly across northern ireland. east and coasts england and scotland , coasts of england and scotland, as well parts of wales. two as well as parts of wales. two and the breeze it will feel and in the breeze it will feel very cold, particularly across the north and on any in any coastal areas. on friday we start to see a bit of a change in our weather. the winds starting to come from the starting to come in from the west. it be another cold
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west. it will be another cold start though, but with temperatures slowly start temperatures will slowly start to through from to increase through the day from the west. however, there's a further risk of heavy snow across scotland and across northern scotland and another snow warning in force for then it's for these areas. and then it's on saturday when we see a widely wetter sunday, wetter day, and sunday, potentially windy day, potentially a very windy day, but temperatures increasing to above average . above average. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .
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well once again the parliamentary day is taken up debating the rwanda bill and voting is going on as speak. >> but our tory mps are really going to vote against the third reading and is the whole thing, frankly, just a bit of a charade and all of this on a day of
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quite dramatic news, when we learned that princess kate has undergone what looks like quite major surgery and the major abdominal surgery and the king hospital for king goes into hospital for a procedure next week , we'll ask procedure next week, we'll ask in the internet age , do we know in the internet age, do we know almost too much about the private lives of our royal family but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you and good evening to you. well, it is very busy in the house of commons in london tonight. mps have concluded their second day of debates on the government's rwanda amendments rwanda bill. multiple amendments have been tabled for this evening , and within the last few evening, and within the last few minutes we've that minutes we've heard that amendment number has been amendment number 11 has been voted off. it has been set aside for this evening . voted off. it has been set aside for this evening. um, voted off. it has been set aside for this evening . um, peers for this evening. um, peers will, um, be sorry. uh, mps , um, will, um, be sorry. uh, mps, um, have withdrawn that. sorry. i want to get the correct details on it for you rebel tories. jane stevenson, who quit the government over that

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