those votes throughout the evening right gb news evening, right here on gb news is and critical to the prime minister's stop the boats policy . we can tell you that today. eight small boats have been intercepted trying to cross the engush intercepted trying to cross the english channel. around 350 people, we understand, have now been brought to shore on the kent coast. as the weather continues to deteriorate. the latest arrivals are the first since the weekend and after five people drowned just off the french coast of boulogne on monday as well, the other main news on gb news today is that his majesty the king, king charles is due to go to hospital for the treatment of an enlarged prostate. we understand buckingham palace telling us today the condition is benign and he'll be admitted next week for what they're describing as a corrective procedure . the corrective procedure. the monarch's public arrangements will, of course, be postponed for a short period of recuperation and coincidentally , recuperation and coincidentally, kensington palace confirmed today the princess of wales had undergone abdominal surgery.

yesterday's planned operation was deemed a success. it's understood her condition is not cancer related . she will, cancer related. she will, though, remain in hospital for up to 14 days before continuing her recovery at home. princess catherine is not expected to return to public duties until after easter. she has apologised for having to postpone those upcoming engagements now. in other news today, politicians in northern ireland have again failed to elect a speaker , which failed to elect a speaker, which means the midnight deadline to restore power sharing won't be met. the stormont session was suspended after the assembly was recalled for the sixth time in almost two years. northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris says it is disappointing, but the government will continue with a pragmatic approach to support the region . now the daughter of the region. now the daughter of murdered mp sir david amess is suing essex police and the home office. sir david was stabbed to death in his constituency in leigh on sea in essex in 2021, a

court was told that ali harbi ali, who was given a whole life time for the murder, was as described, a home grown terrorist who was known to authorities as katie amos. david amos's daughter has filed a personal injury claim, saying she wants proper accountability and for lessons to be learned from her father's murder . and from her father's murder. and just lastly, labour party veteran mp sir tony lloyd has died at the age of 73. he was mp for rochdale, serving as a politician , though across politician, though across greater manchester for over 40 years he had been received treatment for leukaemia. his family paid tribute on social media today to a life spent serving and making a difference to the lives of those he met. sir tony lloyd , who died today sir tony lloyd, who died today at the age of 73. that's the news on gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker.

this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> good evening. as you can see, i am not in london as i'm supposed to be. i'm stuck in dallas . flights delayed, flights dallas. flights delayed, flights cancelled . takes hours to get cancelled. takes hours to get your bags back. nothing really seems to work in modern day america, but hey, i'm still here with you . broadcasting day with you. broadcasting on a day once again dominated politically at least by the rwanda bill. about six hours of debate votes beginning now, and a major vote to come within the next hour or two, which will be the government's third reading, the third and final reading of the rwanda bill before it goes to the house of lords. what is it really all mean? well, we saw for about 60 conservative go against the government line yesterday . they don't think the yesterday. they don't think the rwanda bill is tough enough. they don't think it's going to work. but would they actually have the courage? would they

actually have the guts to vote down this piece of legislation that they know simply isn't going to work? well, some will, but it would need about 30 of them for the government to lose . them for the government to lose. and i suppose the whips will be applying pressure using tricks like this is effectively a vote of confidence in rishi sunak. your prime minister and you know you do want to get re—elected, old boy, don't you, to stand at the next election. so i very much doubt conservative members of parliament will have the guts to vote it down. and indeed, it's worth pointing out it's not since that a government has since 1977 that a government has lost a third reading debate . but lost a third reading debate. but what annoys me about this is they put us through this for over 600 days, 600 days, hundreds of millions of pounds. not a single person has gone to rwanda . frankly, this is rwanda. frankly, this is a charade. all we get are the divisions within the conservative party played out in front of us as some sort of

psychodrama. they've done it on this. they've done it on boris's passes. they've done it on so many issues pre occupied, it seems, with themselves and not with delivering anything of any value for the country whatsoever . i think they're a pretty hopeless bunch and i also think whether the bill was to pass in its current form or even with some of the amendments of yesterday or the ones being voted on now, i'm not sure that any of it would stand legal challenge given our international obligations. challenge given our international obligations . and i international obligations. and i think that's what needs to be sorted out before we have any hope of dealing with this problem. they are just my opinions. i think the whole thing is a waste of time and a charade. and isn't it funny even when the government of rwanda have now had enough, had enough of being trashed in the international press and are virtually saying, look, you know what? you want your money back . what? you want your money back. we'll give it to you. now, let's have a look at some of the

highlights of the debate today. three of the really key players highlights of the debate today. three (debatezally key players highlights of the debate today. three (debate over key players highlights of the debate today. three (debate over the players highlights of the debate today. three (debate over the course; in this debate over the course of the last year, and more are robert jenrick stephen kinnock, of the last year, and more are roibehalf|rick stephen kinnock, of the last year, and more are roibehalf of k stephen kinnock, of the last year, and more are roibehalf of the ephen kinnock, of the last year, and more are roibehalf of the labour(innock, of the last year, and more are roibehalf of the labour party k, on behalf of the labour party and former home secretary suella braverman. let's see what they had to say in this debate this afternoon in the house of commons, as members on all sides of this house know, i feel passionately that illegal migration is doing untold damage to our country, and we have to make that this bill make sure that this bill actually job. actually does the job. >> i want to speak to two amendments, but one in particular, and that is the one with respect to rule 39. and let me say at the outset of this debate that i do not believe that our membership of the european convention on human rights is sustainable. i think that will become clearer and clearer to the british public in the months and the years ahead. >> the united kingdom is party to a number of international agreements and conventions, and that it reality is extremely

important to our national interest and in many cases, strength owns our sovereignty and not weak weakens it. so we on these benches are absolutely clear that politics is about choices. >> the decisions coming from that court are stopping us from controlling our borders. the amendment tabled here will prevent that foreign court from from stopping us. and that's why we need to support this amendment . we need to support this amendment. it will fix this bill. this bill needs to work. it is our last chance. if we get it wrong. the british people will not forgive us. >> well, as i've said, many times before, this is the brexit debate 2.0. there was stephen kinnock . we signed up to kinnock. we signed up to international agreements and this strengthens our sovereignty . well, that was the argument for remain and jenrick and braverman saying , look, if we braverman saying, look, if we stay part of these outdated agreements, we cannot govern our own country. this really is the

brexit debate all over again . brexit debate all over again. and actually in the whole of the house of commons, there are really very, very few mps that support what is now a view in this country held by at least . this country held by at least. 45% of people, maybe even higher than that. let us go now to westminster hall and join chris hope gb news political editor and chris, i understand that voting is taking place, but i wonder , are they going to be 30 wonder, are they going to be 30 mps that have the courage to vote against their own government ? government? >> the answer to that is probably no, nigel. mps that you hear bell behind me, that signals mps to get to the voting lobbies. they're voting right now amendment 23. now, this now on amendment 23. now, this is the amendment which the prime minister talked about. the idea of it anyway, when he was interviewed by me for gb news on monday. this will give allow air force ministers to overrule rule 39 orders so called pyjama injunctions from the european court of human rights. they would not be treated as binding

on the uk and so there could not prevent removals to rwanda. that's the robert jenrick amendment . that's the robert jenrick amendment. that's the big one for tonight. it's not likely to win so far the win because so far the government hasn't would government hasn't said it would accept it. therefore it is accept it. so therefore it is unlikely pass it looks like unlikely to pass it looks like these amendments none will get through. we're expecting seven more tonight . more more votes or so tonight. more votes from the labour party trying to establish a monitoring committee to ensure the safety of rwanda, and also an amendment amendment 11, that may have fallen. i think actually, while i was talking to you on on disapplying elements of the human act, to human rights to those act, to those being sent back back to those being sent back to back to rwanda , um, again, it is a bit rwanda, um, again, it is a bit like brexit, as you said there in your remarks, in a sense that some of those mps last night, some of those mps last night, some of those mps last night, some of the 60 who voted for those amendments, are falling away . the big those amendments, are falling away. the big names here, you'll remember are is one of them is sir jacob rees—mogg. uh, famously, sirjacob rees—mogg. uh, famously, course, who didn't famously, of course, who didn't back the meaningful vote. three for of those, theresa may for all of those, theresa may votes back in back in 2019,

other mps who voted rebelled last night, who now will not rebel tonight, we can reveal our jane stevenson, the pps, the ministerial aide to kemi badenoch, as was resigned from the government. one of the three who resigned and also jack brereton, um, and other mps. two are telling us that tonight , um, are telling us that tonight, um, what may happen is you may see some of these rebels abstaining , some of these rebels abstaining, but i don't think the rebel number will get above 10 or 12. 12 will know soon enough. probably after your show has finished. as we go into the evening. but as you as you're saying, there, nigel, it may be that lots of mps here don't don't have the courage of their convictions. last night. when it comes to it, they are more concerned, and some viewers may be sympathetic to this. not to lose the entire bill to make it the best they can possibly be, and are willing to accept it as it is to see if it works as yes, it's the it's the accept half a loaf argument. >> chris, i've heard it many, many times before , but if i'm

many times before, but if i'm a gb news viewer and i am really concerned ed about the number of young men crossing the english channel young men crossing the english channel, 300 more today , i channel, 300 more today, i noficed channel, 300 more today, i noticed james cleverly being very quiet on that at the moment. am i? am i not entitled to think that this government is frankly just wasting my time? they've put me through over 600 days of news headlines of debates, of parliamentary time, of taxpayers money, and to date they've achieved nothing . do they've achieved nothing. do i not have a right to feel pretty annoyed about this ? annoyed about this? >> well, of course that's your right to say that because you're not an mp, you're not in a government. i mean, the government. i mean, the government would say back to you, were they here that they've got to work within the boundanes got to work within the boundaries of what's acceptable to made to rwanda, to rwanda has made very will not go very clear they will not go further or be seen breach further or be seen to breach international obligations. further or be seen to breach international obligations . they international obligations. they can't the left of the can't offend the left of the party, which feels this is i mean, we heard from sir bob neil, one of those tory wets in

the debate in the commons today. he said this, this bill goes just as bad as it can just as bad as far as it can possibly go without in his mind, a breaching these international obligations. so unless we as the uk withdraw completely from these international treaties we've signed up to for decades , we've signed up to for decades, you've got to work within those, within those boundaries set against nigel is what against that. nigel is what you're saying. it's one of sovereignty that people voted with. you followed your campaign back in 2016 to restore sovereignty over our borders and our laws. they might wonder, why can't we do that? and it may be that that idea of brexit, that that that idea of brexit, which did got so many on side in 2016, has come up against a degree of reality in this rwanda bill vote tonight . well chris bill vote tonight. well chris hope, thank you very much indeed i >> -- >> chris says m >> chris says it's come up against reality. i think it's come up against gutlessness, but there are two different ways of seeing the same thing. i'm joined now down the line by richard bartrem, senior immigration lawyer. richard,

welcome again to the program. the point i'm making is whether a whole host of amendments go through or not. none of this is going to survive the supreme court. is it ? court. is it? >> uh, well, the we have this bill because the supreme court, the british supreme court , uh, the british supreme court, uh, came to a factual based and evidence based decision that rwanda wasn't safe . rwanda wasn't safe. >> the purpose of this bill is to declare in the judgement of parliament that it is safe. so in far as that goes , i mean, in so far as that goes, i mean, you know, parliament is sovereign . and although there's sovereign. and although there's a certain logic in deeming something safe when the evidence says it isn't, that's the situation we're going to find ourselves in. um, but safety is only part of the equation , ian. only part of the equation, ian. plus, the practicalities of implementing this bill, what it actually says about what happens to people in rwanda , remember, to people in rwanda, remember, they can't be removed from anywhere apart from back to the uk . so i presume a failed asylum uk. so i presume a failed asylum seeker goes an asylum seeker

goes to rwanda . his asylum claim goes to rwanda. his asylum claim is not accepted and then we have to bring them back and remove them. that seems, um, a long way round of doing things. >> uh, but, you know , you make >> uh, but, you know, you make the point, richard, that parliament is sovereign. well, that's fine , but if we've signed that's fine, but if we've signed international treaties as they have a higher order, all the while they still exist . but, um , while they still exist. but, um, well, they do, um, this bill, um, purports to . um, purports to. >> well, it doesn't purport it simply it declares that it will be for a minister of the crown only and in person . um, to to, only and in person. um, to to, decide whether that whether we follow rule 39. uh, um, in injunctions. i mean, the minister in person issue is, is a is an interesting one. i presume the minister will be in pyjamas along with the foreign judges also. um, at that stage of the thing, um , so but of the thing, um, so but i really don't see our problem being with our international obugafions being with our international obligations or some, um, some foreign, uh, courts . it's really

foreign, uh, courts. it's really down to us to sort this out and this bill doesn't come close, in my opinion . my opinion. >> so basically, you would rather we may take different positions on much of this, but basically you take the view that itake basically you take the view that i take that the government has wasted a vast amount of time, money and public debate. not to move this even an inch further forwards. >> i do agree, um , a sensible >> i do agree, um, a sensible person when , um, confronted with person when, um, confronted with a situation or a plan that isn't going to work either. rejigs the plan or does something completely different. so what we have is, uh, the, the safety issue, and that's what seems to be upset. the the purpose of this to bill address tribunal concerns about safety, the tribunal will not be able to look at any challenge that, uh, that that alleges that rwanda is unsafe. uh, but someone's forgotten that the refugee convention is more than just about refoulement . uh, it grants about refoulement. uh, it grants refugees full civil and

political rights. does rwanda have a route to citizenship? can you own freehold property? the answer to that is actually no. but these are all things that would that would be challengeable in uk courts, which have got nothing to do with safety. um and that's what i would be doing . um, because i would be doing. um, because i'm well, i would be doing it. yes yeah . yes yeah. >> well you never know. you may well be richard. thank you very much indeed forjoining me. thank you. and there you are, folks. know , the only honest folks. you know, the only honest debate here is either you want to stay part of these international agreements because you buy the stephen kinnock argument that being part of these things is good for us and somehow enhances our sovereignty . or say many of these . or you say many of these conventions, but which were abiding , conventions, but which were abiding, were drawn up back in 1951, in a very, very different world, and at the very least need to be updated. and that is the only honest debate, at least i believe that in a moment we will discuss those international

agreements . will discuss those international agreements. i'll discuss it will discuss those international agreements . i'll discuss it with agreements. i'll discuss it with somebody who thinks they're of benefit. it should be interesting

radio. well let's continue this debate about the enhancement of our sovereignty through these international agreements. >> and i'm joined now by down the line by omar hammoud gallego, fellow in political science and public policy at the lse school of public policy. good evening. thank you very much indeed forjoining me. um, i know that you yourself have worked with the unhcr in colombia and i completely understand . and why in 1951, we understand. and why in 1951, we drew up a refugee convention in the wake of world war two and the wake of world war two and the holocaust and other horrors that had happened. but do you understand, omar? why many of us now think this looks to be a bit outdated ?

outdated? >> absolutely. i mean, i think there is a quite a bit of an agreement , even there is a quite a bit of an agreement, even among there is a quite a bit of an agreement , even among scholars, agreement, even among scholars, that current asylum that the current asylum refugee regime really work. but regime doesn't really work. but the point is, until we have a clear alternative , until there clear alternative, until there is an agreement about how we can promote a an asylum regime that promote a an asylum regime that promote , it's effectively safe promote, it's effectively safe and legal migration , then we and legal migration, then we have to stick to the rules that we have, and those are the ones laid out in the 1951 geneva convention. but that convention never foresaw , did it? never foresaw, did it? >> tens of millions of young men in, um, you know, moving across the world, huge numbers, leaving africa , particularly from africa, particularly from countries who've got exploding populations and even the definition , i mean, the definition, i mean, the definition, i mean, the definition of a refugee in 1951 was much more specific than it seems to be today. >> absolutely. and it's been updated in a few regions of the world. if you look at africa, if you look at latin america, um, a refugee is someone who flees . refugee is someone who flees. also a massive and widespread

violations of human rights. and by this definition , many people by this definition, many people who currently come to the uk are effectively refugees. so if you want the european bits of the current asylum system is the one thatis current asylum system is the one that is a bit outdated . that is a bit outdated. >> well, okay, well let's get to that. that's interesting because, you know, the european convention on human rights, the european court of human rights, all established pretty that all established pretty much that same of time, almost same period of time, almost identical actually. i wonder , is identical actually. i wonder, is it possible , given that there it possible, given that there are huge rows going on within the european union, about sharing the burden of those that are crossing the mediterranean governments? barely speaking to each other? the president of germany saying we're at breaking point. could there be pressure on the echr to perhaps redefine its role coming from european government like france, germany and italy? >> um, luckily , um, when it >> um, luckily, um, when it comes to democracies , uh, there

comes to democracies, uh, there is a you know, democracies work if you have check and balance checks and balances between institutions and in this case, um, if we, you know, the courts are independent and this is it's right to be so, so they will stay independent, that they will ensure that individual, you know, my and your own human rights are respected regardless of who's in power. and this is something that should comfort us rather than the opposite . no rather than the opposite. no >> okay. that's i mean, i take that point, but there is an increasing demand across europe for countries to have more control of this issue. i just wondered whether we might see some pressure on the echr now , some pressure on the echr now, given we've got these agreements and short of leaving them, which i personally think we ought to, but that's a political opinion . but that's a political opinion. is there anything you think we can do to try to solve or ease this, this cross—channel problem ? >> absolutely. if a 7 >> absolutely. if a government were serious , what they would do were serious, what they would do

is talk to our neighbours and agree with them to create a system whereby there are incentives for them to stop the illegal smuggling groups and so and also to help migrants come in in a safe, in a safe way. and the way we could do this is very simple. we come to our european neighbours, we have left the eu, but we haven't left europe and we can say to if you help we can say to them, if you help us groups , um, we us stop these groups, um, we will take a credible amount of individuals from directly from europe into the uk. so you solve the problem. you, you, you effectively destroy the smuggling routes. their business model, but you create a safe and legal routes for people to come in. >> well, that appears to be the direction that sir keir starmer is going in. he is edging, i think, in that direction . ian, think, in that direction. ian, i tell you what, this is such an important debate. omar. we're going to come back to this again, you and i, in the space of the next couple of weeks. and

thank you for joining of the next couple of weeks. and thank you forjoining me. i'm thank you for joining me. i'm going live now to going to cross live now to westminster news westminster hall and gb news political editor chris hope to bnng political editor chris hope to bring us an update on voting . bring us an update on voting. >> well, nigel, from your cerebral chat there about international law to raw politics here in parliament, uh, the robert jenrick amendment, which is amendment 23, which is meant to ensure that the overruling of rule 39 orders from the european court of human rights, um, rather than being a voluntary thing for ministers, will be binding in law on the uk to make sure they overruled to make sure they are overruled and prevent to and not prevent removals to rwanda . that's been defeated . by rwanda. that's been defeated. by 536 to 65. but what's interesting , nigel, is that 65 interesting, nigel, is that 65 mps, many of them tory mps, have voted for that generic amendment. i can hear you chuckling away in dallas, but what that actually means is that this this a rebellion that was big deal last night has carried over on this important robert jenrick amendment now. and it means that the third reading, while many think it might, may

maybe clear a dozen or maybe not as fewer than a dozen, uh, tory mps might rebel, it could be more than that, given the numbers rebelling tonight on the genenc numbers rebelling tonight on the generic amendment it's all to play generic amendment it's all to play for. there's another six amendment votes from now and then. an hour long debate. and then. an hour long debate. and the third reading vote probably towards 9:30. uh uk time 9:45. so it's all to play for i think though this the bill will pass . though this the bill will pass. you won't be happy about it. but i think that's where we're going. it's off to the lords but we're yet the we're not there yet for the government . thank you chris, government. thank you chris, very much indeed . very much indeed. >> and the reason i was chuckling was , is that there are chuckling was, is that there are over 500 mps that vote against this. and there was a big piece of opinion research out over the weekend to show that in england and wales , a majority of and wales, a majority of constituencies , a majority of constituencies, a majority of constituencies, a majority of constituencies had people in them who said we should deport people across the channel immediately . it's just like the

immediately. it's just like the brexit vote. we've got a country that thinks one thing and we've got westminster that thinks another. the gap between the governors and the governed is just as big. if not bigger, than it was before the brexit vote . it was before the brexit vote. and it is deeply, deeply frustrating now in a moment. it's been a day of really quite dramatic royal news. first it was kate, then it was the king. i'll be joined by dickie arbiter and i'll ask, do we really need to know? do details about the king's prostate date or has this all gone just a little bit too

radio. it's often said that we live our lives through the lives of the royal family. >> when they have happiness, when they have tragedy , when when they have tragedy, when they difficulties, it they have difficulties, it always reminds in own always reminds us in our own lives of things that have happened. and of course , got happened. and of course, we got the news earlier on today. the princess undergone

princess kate has undergone abdominal surgery. must be abdominal surgery. it must be fairly major abdominal surgery because she's to in because she's going to be in hospital for 10 to 14 days and will undertake any royal will not undertake any royal engagements until after easter. and then on the back of this , and then on the back of this, whether the king is to go into hospital next week for a medical procedure to deal with an enlarged prostate . it's an enlarged prostate. it's an extraordinary set of medical news from the royal family. all to come in one day. and who better to put it in some perspective than dickie arbiter, former press secretary to queen elizabeth the second. dickie i mean, the news on kate seemed to come, at least to me , out of the come, at least to me, out of the blue. but on top of that, we get news about the king. uh is this somewhat unprecedented for two members of the immediate royal family to be going into hospital at much the same time? >> it is unprecedented . i spent >> it is unprecedented. i spent 12 years at buckingham palace , 12 years at buckingham palace, and prior to that, i was accredited to the palace for ten years. and never were two

members of the royal family in hospital. in fact, i only remember one being in hospital and latterly, uh , on my time. and latterly, uh, on my time. and we had prince philip going in and out. but no two members, no, it was quite interesting because before you went to the break, you talked about what do we really know about want to know about the king having a prostate problem? the answer is yes. you ask any organisations that are dealing with the prostate problem. they say the more publicity we can get, the better , because men are better, because men are reluctant to talk about it. they're reluctant to go to their gp and say, i think i've got a problem. uh, and the gp can sort it out. the gp can set them on the road to recovery. so the right road to recovery. so the right road to recovery. so the fact that the king is transparent and talking about it, and we know that he's going to in next is good news to go in next week is good news for dealing with for the people dealing with prostate would good prostate. and it would be good news people who sort of news for people who sort of humming and hollering as to whether they should go to their gp 60 whether they should go to their gp go to your gp. we had gp or not. go to your gp. we had last if you remember,

last year, if you remember, fergie a mastectomy, uh, and fergie had a mastectomy, uh, and she talked about it and the cancer organisations were very pleased that she talked about it. there's no stigma attached to it. and the more people that talk about it, the more people that something about it and that do something about it and publicly. is an easy publicly. then there is an easy way of combat . the whole problem way of combat. the whole problem of prostrate problems . dickie of prostrate problems. dickie i understand that point very well. >> having been a victim of testicular cancer myself. so i fully understand that point. but i think there are plenty of people, plenty of very high profile men in life who have come out on this. the question i'm really asking you, and yes, the medical charities may be very pleased that we're discussing this about the king. but the question really but the question i'm really asking is , doesn't our asking you is, doesn't our monarch need need some sort of a degree of shielding ? doesn't degree of shielding? doesn't there need to be something a little bit special, a little bit magic ? well, aren't we reducing magic? well, aren't we reducing the king, you know, to the level

of a premier league footballer or a rock star? >> yeah. i hear what you're getting at. we're intruding on the mystique of monarchy. uh, and perhaps you're right on that. but it was. and perhaps you're right on that. but it was . it would have that. but it was. it would have been the king's decision. he knows about medical issues . he knows about medical issues. he knows about medical issues. he knows the problems people have . knows the problems people have. he he's got a wealth of experience as prince of wales with his princes trust organisation. other organisation. all other organisations. he has a wealth of experience and he probably felt that, well , if people know felt that, well, if people know that i've got a problem then they will do something . if they they will do something. if they feel they have a problem and go to your gp and sort it out . so to your gp and sort it out. so look, you mentioned just now that you suffered from testicular cancer. um, you didn't have to make that public, but you did make it public. and why? other people will why? uh, other people will listen to you and say, well, if he's something it, he's done something about it, i can about it. and can do something about it. and that's what the king feels . that's what the king feels. >> no, i mean, dickie, you know, that's right. i'm happy to talk about it because too many young

men die of it because they don't go and get it looked at. uh, but i'm nigel i'm not the i'm nigel farage. i'm not the king. that's that's really king. and that's that's really the point that i'm trying to make. think mystique make. i do think this mystique of monarchy matters. as for kate, we are not going to kate, now we are not going to speculate. we are absolutely not going to speculate in line with her wishes and the wishes of the royal family. we're not going to do that. but obviously, obviously, for to her be out until after easter, that's quite a blow, isn't it? to the royal family terms of the public family in terms of the public appearances that they give, because she just seems to she just seems to shine, doesn't she? everywhere she goes, she shines . shines. >> everywhere she goes. i mean, we saw her at christmas at sandringham with the rest of the family going to church. we saw her before christmas at her carol westminster carol concert at westminster abbey . and yes, she does shine . abbey. and yes, she does shine. uh, the fact that she has gone in for an abdominal operation. well they are problems. abdominal operations. it takes a long time to recuperate. you ask anybody who's had one, and it does take weeks. in fact, in

some cases it can take months. and you're quite right. we should not speculate as to what it is. it could be a whole multitude, a multitude of different things. and she has asked for, uh, people to respect the privacy of her, of her medical condition. so we'll do that. yes. she is in hospital . that. yes. she is in hospital. look up to 14 days. she could be up before that. depends on on the medics at the london clinic recuperating at home. well, she would do that. and in the fullness of time, she'll be back on duty. but it is a bit of a blow where you've got two senior members was out of action at the same time. doesn't mean the royal family is going to fold. it mean to say that it doesn't mean to say that things king things won't get done. the king will doing his red will carry on doing his red boxes hospital . that's boxes even in hospital. that's not going to stop him. uh, what might what might come as a bit of a shock that one of the treatments for, uh, for prostate is, , cut down on alcohol and is, um, cut down on alcohol and he does like his strong martinis . so, um, whether he'll he'll

listen remains to be seen, but, uh, yeah , well, we're told he's uh, yeah, well, we're told he's going to. we're told dickie, that, uh , we're told that he's that, uh, we're told that he's at birkhall tonight and comfortable. >> and perhaps he is having one of those stiff martinis. i don't know, um, but but just a final thought on this . two years ago, thought on this. two years ago, we wouldn't have known anything about this, would we? until a statement had come from buckingham palace. and today, in the internet age, and with everybody having cameras with them, no member of the royal family hospital family can go to a hospital anywhere without being photographed. it's a very, very much harder role. is it not being a royal in 2024 than it was when the queen took over back in 1952? it's a harder role being a royal in 2024 with all the means of communication. >> it's a hard world for celebrities , hard world for you. celebrities, hard world for you. for example. i mean, you go into hospital, the world will know about it even as you step foot in hospital. it might be something totally innocuous that

you're going to visit somebody, but nigel farage went to hospital, none of us is safe hospital, so none of us is safe from prying eyes, and we just have to live with it. it's just one of the things of the 21st century. >> yeah, it really is. dickie arbiter, absolute pleasure to have you on on this day. thank you very much indeed . well, that you very much indeed. well, that was really interesting . and was really interesting. and actually, dickie is right. the last time i went into hospital for an operation , i went in for an operation, i went in under an assumed name , and i was under an assumed name, and i was smuggled in through the basement just to try and keep the media away. is not wrong away. so dickie is not wrong about stuff . now, about this stuff. now, i can't help it. conservative help it. as the conservative party are busy voting away and frankly, nowhere with frankly, getting nowhere with rwanda . i can't resist to tell rwanda. i can't resist to tell you that . and james cleverly, you that. and james cleverly, he's been ever so quiet. the home secretary today, the man telling us time that no telling us all the time that no boats are crossing the channel. well, an well, we've just learnt that an eighth dinghy was crossed, eighth small dinghy was crossed, was this afternoon. was was spotted this afternoon. so 350, 350 migrants have come into dover today. and you can

see some of this footage on your screens. and this is because we've got a brief break in the weather. remember, over christmas and new year , the christmas and new year, the gales were pretty much daily. i think , starting again in 2 or think, starting again in 2 or 3 days time. there are going to be 40 mile an hour winds and stronger in the channel. you can see they're all the empty rubber dinghies on that boat, but whenever the weather is good, the young men come and they come in big numbers and there is absolutely nothing we have done to deter any of it. and i'll finish this segment with a what the farage the guido fawkes website for those of you that really like politics and current affairs and a bit of gossip, it is actually at times pretty good value. they put this up this morning. they said they were having a look at civil service job listings this afternoon , and job listings this afternoon, and saw a job advert for a nuclear emergency response manager, navy command , based at the naval base

command, based at the naval base in the clyde. and it is a pretty important and serious job. and yet further down the list , they yet further down the list, they saw that transport for london is now hiring a diversity and inclusion lead to champion initiatives that support the diversity and inclusion agenda, and would you believe that the diversity champion is going to earn nearly three times as much money as the person that gets the job of nuclear emergency response, which i think perhaps tells you all you need to know about our sense of priorities and just how wayward and wrong we're being with so many of these things. it seems to me those roles should be the other way around. in fact, i wonder why tfl even need anybody at at all to work for them on diversity and inclusion. surely you just employ the best person for the job. isn't that the kind of meritocracy we'd like to live

in? well, we most certainly don't . well, i've been pretty don't. well, i've been pretty scathing earlier on this program about the conservative party wasting our time being obsessed with their own navels, not achieving much for the country despite having an 80 seat majority. and i'll be joined in a moment by lord hayward, life peer and pollster . a moment by lord hayward, life peer and pollster. i'm going to ask him where on earth does rishi sunak go from here? is his leadership frankly , all but over leadership frankly, all but over on patrick christys tonight , 9 on patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm, we will have all the fallout from tonight's dramatic rwanda vote. >> and i will ask, would it really mean electoral disaster for the tories to replace rishi sunak? now plus, as both the king and kate head into hospital, should we fear for the health of our royal family? editor at large of the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths gives report and gives an insider's report and after a watch grab being gang of bin snared, i ask have we got a problem with disaffected members of ethnic minority communities

committing crime ? patrick committing crime? patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. be that

i >> -- >> well , they're hard at it. >> well, they're hard at it. still in parliament voting and voting and voting. and we see you know, the point that was made chris hope earlier that made by chris hope earlier that a of tory rebels a number of tory rebels remaining consistent at about 60, they're added to from time

to time. the democratic to time. but the democratic unionist party, um, but they are greatly , greatly outnumbered in greatly, greatly outnumbered in their own political party. and of course, the labour party are absolutely 100% against the rwanda plan. but we so i guess you could argue , you could argue you could argue, you could argue that the labour party are united on this, but this perhaps in some ways should present an ongoing opportunity to conservatives in the red wall. i'm just not sure that it does. i'm just not sure that it does. i'm joined down the line by conservative peer and pollster lord hayward . uh, welcome to the lord hayward. uh, welcome to the program. good evening. good evening . i am i have to say, evening. i am i have to say, i've been saying over the course of the last hour that the conservative party have put the country through over 600 days of this nonsense on rwanda ever since it was announced by boris johnson on down at lydd airport . johnson on down at lydd airport. hundreds of millions of pounds have been spent . huge amounts of

have been spent. huge amounts of court time are being consumed. parliamentary time and the country's emotions . and it looks country's emotions. and it looks tonight to me that we're no further forward. why should anyone believe anything? this government says on combating illegal immigration? >> because they're actually trying to do something. they've faced all sorts of difficulties. uh, and they're in the process of trying to to, deal with it. uh, they're obviously divisions within the . conservative party within the. conservative party as to how you deal with it and what the law is. uh, and if even if it completes this evening in the commons, it's then got go the commons, it's then got to go to the and, and there's no to the lords and, and there's no question is a complex question it is a complex international matter, but at least conservative party in least the conservative party in whatever the bill goes to whatever form the bill goes to the lords, if that's what happens, is trying to do something . something. >> well, i suppose it's rather like the brexit renegotiation, isn't it ? you know, we'll go and isn't it? you know, we'll go and try and get a better deal. um,

and some argue we have to stay part of the european union. a small minority in the tory party at the time argued through those years that we should leave, but didn't robert jenrick really actually sum it up beautifully by saying that all the things we're trying to achieve on rwanda are inconsistent with continued membership of echr. isn't that the really honest debate that the public deserve to hear ? to hear? >> i think that you're right. in one part in that there is a debate about about the role of the echr and its powers, but we are part of the echr . we're also are part of the echr. we're also , uh, part of the convention on human rights. we face. we are in all sorts of international agreements. the objective of the rwanda policy is not to ship large numbers of people to rwanda. it's to act as a very , rwanda. it's to act as a very, very clear deterrent . uh, but we very clear deterrent. uh, but we

operate in a legal process , and operate in a legal process, and we have to follow that . uh, we we have to follow that. uh, we david cameron , i years ago, david cameron, i years ago, we've voted against the echr, for example, on the question of prisoners having a vote. they echr . so it's not impossible to echr. so it's not impossible to refuse to do what the echr says. it's different interpretations of it . and robert jenrick has of it. and robert jenrick has failed to convince. if you look at the votes just a few minutes ago , he's failed to convince ago, he's failed to convince large numbers of his own colleagues. the overwhelming majority of his own colleagues . majority of his own colleagues. so there are different views. no no, i yeah , no, no, i get that completely. >> and i get that parliament over hinckley says . we're part over hinckley says. we're part of echr and that's where we should stay. just as parliament overwhelmingly , you know, for overwhelmingly, you know, for years and years, wanted to stay part of the european union. but the point i'm really getting to here is there seems to me, and you're the pollster, not me, but

it seems to me there is a massive gap, the massive gap between what parliament thinks on this issue and what the country thinks . country thinks. >> no, you're making interpretations there on which i don't think you have any basis, to be honest. nigel. um there are people who say, oh, this is what the public think about the echr, the vast majority of people confronted by the set of the initials echr wouldn't know what they were for. they won't be able to differentiate between the echr or the european court of justice. the convention on human rights and the powers that we have in our supreme court. they people can't make that judgement because they don't know the facts. >> that's a fair point. no no, no, that's a fair point. that's a fair point. but that recent polling out of the weekend, showing 42% of all voters want people who arrive on small boats deported immediately. that's

that's that, that's the gap that i'm talking about here. >> ah, no. okay no, that's let's talk about the poll and the interpretation of the poll . interpretation of the poll. there is no question that people believe that those who are arriving illegally should be deported as quickly as possible. no question about that. it's a question of the means and the deterrence . and there is no deterrence. and there is no question that as long as the french don't provide the support that we want, the ball is very much in our court and under those circumstances, one has to tackle the illegal immigration, which doesn't solely come from france , but we have to deal with france, but we have to deal with it in some way or another. >> yeah, yeah . more broadly. >> yeah, yeah. more broadly. more broadly , there's been no more broadly, there's been no good news for rishi sunak on polling for some time. i noticed a couple of weeks ago, vet veteran sir david davis made the point that in 86, the conservatives prospects didn't

look that good. but the 87 election was a triumph that in 92, no one gave john major a chance. and yet he managed to get a majority of just over 20 against all the odds. get a majority of just over 20 against all the odds . and david against all the odds. and david davis was saying, as a veteran , davis was saying, as a veteran, you know, don't be downhearted. we can do this. but do you see any signs , signs, any signs at any signs, signs, any signs at all of a pickup in support for sunak conservatives ? sunak conservatives? >> well, i think david davis is also very clear that a united party is what wins elections . party is what wins elections. and i'm afraid there are certain people in the tory party who are highlighting the differential differences, and they would be far better to take david davis's point of view , uh, not point of view, uh, not highlighting it, trying to get speedy resolution on issues, because in fact, there have been good, uh, the action that the government took in relation to the post office, uh, over the last few days , um, the action last few days, um, the action that the government took in relation to the houthis , uh, has relation to the houthis, uh, has been very clear indication ,

been very clear indication, given that, uh, rishi sunak and his government are willing to take clear and firm action. the inflation figures disappointing today, but overall, a very much improved position. so it's people have to ask themselves within the tory party whether highlighting their own divisions is actually in the party best interests . interests. >> no, it's a it's a very, very fair point. but the trouble is , fair point. but the trouble is, as you know, lord hayward and i know when the divisions are ideological, it becomes really rather . thank you once rather difficult. thank you once again for joining rather difficult. thank you once again forjoining us. and chris hope we'll be joining you in a few moments. chris hi. what have you got for us? >> well, a huge night of votes in parliament as we saw earlier. nigel farage. tuning coming nigel farage. but tuning coming in. it very soon. in. we'll see it very soon. >> right. very good. well before that let's get the all important weather and i'll be back with you in london tomorrow. i hope. >> looks like things are heating up boxed boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news . hello

weather on gb news. hello >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. i'm annie shuttleworth. it's going to be a very start once again very cold start once again tomorrow morning with an amber snow warning in force for northern areas of scotland. that's where we're seeing the most frequent showers most frequent snow showers being brought northerly brought in on this northerly wind. air wind. we've got arctic air across of the has been a across much of the uk has been a bit of cloud around across the south that will generally clear away evening to away through the evening to leave skies across much of leave clear skies across much of the uk. so it's going to be a very cold night. that will allow temperatures to really drop down. we could be down low as down. we could be down as low as minus really quite widely minus ten really quite widely across the coldest across the uk, but the coldest temperatures in temperatures once again in scottish glens we're expecting lows minus 18 degrees lows of around minus 18 degrees by tomorrow morning . however, by tomorrow morning. however, there will be a good deal of dry and crisp sunny weather across the uk through thursday, but snow showers will still continue to move in so there is a continued risk of some ice on any untreated roads, mainly across northern ireland. east

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gb news. >> hello and welcome. it's me gb news political editor christopher hope . i've hotfooted christopher hope. i've hotfooted it from westminster hall to present jacob rees—mogg show as he's a bit busy in the house of commons. tonight we're bringing you coverage on the rwanda bill as happens in the house of as it happens in the house of commons. it's voting on the bill tonight. moments ago. and as we speak, it's wrapping right now. for of tuning for for those of you tuning in for sir jacob rees—mogg, state of sirjacob rees—mogg, state of the nation, don't he'll the nation, don't worry, he'll be and be joining me very shortly and i'll be asking him about how he'll on the he'll how he'll vote on the crucial third reading expected. just over an hour away. and as a gb news has reported throughout the day, eight small boats

crossing the channel this morning with as many 350 migrants entering the country. so this makes this evening's vote all the more significant as even vote all the more significant as ever, don't forget to let me know what you think. gb views at gb news.com. all of that and much, much more coming up after the news with polly middlehurst . the news with polly middlehurst. >> chris, thank you and good evening to you. well, as chris was just saying, the government is being pressed tonight for a second evening in the house of commons on the strength of its rwanda bill, and it does now look will pass all look like it will pass all evening have tabling evening, mps have been tabling various amendments , and later various amendments, and later the third and final reading will take place when mps vote. take place when mps will vote. that's being seen as a key test of the prime minister's authority . mps have voted down authority. mps have voted down former immigration minister robert jenrick amendment, who previously said using the legislation in its current form would be like pulling a pin out

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