weather morning. >> 930 on thursday the 18th of january. this is britain's newsroom with on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. very good morning. >> relief for rishi. despite the drama, the prime minister's rwanda passed the house of rwanda bill passed the house of commons 11 mps commons with only 11 tory mps voting against it. now it bounces the house of lords bounces into the house of lords for our political for more scrutiny. our political correspondent katherine forster

has latest . has the latest. >> yes. after all, the sound and fury. in the end, only suella braverman, robert jenrick and nine others actually voted against the government last night. rishi sunak this morning will be hosting a press conference trying to re establish his authority . but my establish his authority. but my goodness, what divisions in the conservative party he and the race is on because eight inflatable boats crossed the engush inflatable boats crossed the english channel yesterday, on the very day of that rwanda vote, bringing ashore another 350 illegal migrants and a royal health scare, king charles prepares to be treated in hospital next week and the princess of wales is doing well after abdominal surgery . after abdominal surgery. >> public sector strikes. if you're joining us from northern ireland, you know all about it this morning, more than 100,000 pubuc this morning, more than 100,000 public workers are public sector workers are on strike pay, biggest strike over pay, the biggest strike over pay, the biggest strike kind in 50 years. strike of its kind in 50 years. >> and the very sad story of two year old bronson battersbee, who

died after his father had a heart attack and he and the mother of the little boy said that her son was two inches too small to reach a fridge full of food before he starved to death next to his father's body . the next to his father's body. the police are looking into it . police are looking into it. very sad story. >> it is. but king in hospital at the same time as the future queen. >> yeah. nobody saw that coming. yesterday. i was cooking the kids tea, i heard. yeah, headune kids tea, i heard. yeah, headline after headline. >> day three her. catherine >> day three of her. catherine being in hospital. he goes in next week . quite right. i think next week. quite right. i think these talked about he's these talked about why he's going with his prostate going in to do with his prostate because terrify people because men are terrify people at getting looking at their bits and getting tested. women much better done, your better. so well done, your majesty . yeah. majesty. yeah. >> and we wish them well. so let us your thoughts this us know your thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com is the address. first though, the email address. first though, the email address. first though, the latest headlines with the very latest headlines with

sophia . sophia wenzler. >> thanks, bev. good morning . >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's 933. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the prime minister faces a final hurdle for his controversial rwanda plan as the bill moves to the house of lords. it's designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers . the removal of asylum seekers. the third reading passed the commons unamended, with a majority of 44. dozens of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it, downing street described the win as a major step in the pledge to stop small boats, but the legislation is now expected to face tough opposition in the lords. home office minister chris philp says the bill will serve as a deterrent . serve as a deterrent. >> i think ultimately the british public want to see the government deliver. i think the fact we've got small boat crossings down 36% year on year is a welcome step, but obviously the pledges to stop them completely and this bill is an important part of that. and tens

of thousands of public sector workers in northern ireland are on strike in what's being billed as the biggest walkout in recent history . history. >> the demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. there have been calls for northern ireland secretary's intervention for the release of funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused , chris heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one.the saying the matter is a devolved one. the us has carried out another round of strikes on iranian backed houthi targets in yemen. 14 sites were hit, with the military saying they posed an imminent threat to navy ships in the red sea region . it's in the red sea region. it's after rebels struck an american owned vessel passing through the gulf of aden yesterday. it's the fourth set of us strikes in under a week, with washington also relisting the houthis as terrorists. uk forces were not involved in the latest action train ticket costs are more at station machines with consumer groups finding passengers are paying groups finding passengers are paying twice as much as those

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it's back to andrew and. bev >> very good morning. 936 stop chatting, andrew pierce on the telly. how many times do i have to tell you that now.7 good to tell you that now? good morning. huge relief for rishi sunak last night as the ayes to the right 320. >> the noes to the left 276. the ayes have it, the ayes have it. look. ayes have it, the ayes have it. look . so a very comfortable look. so a very comfortable victory as we said it would be here on the programme yesterday there were 11 rebels. >> i think i predicted 12. so the round will go through the house of commons. it now heads to the house of lords. >> that's right. dozens the tories found the bill to be flawed, we discussed flawed, as we discussed yesterday. but only 11 them yesterday. but only 11 of them had mettle to actually revolt. >> conservative mp lee anderson, of parish explains . of of this parish explains. of course, he resigned as tory deputy chairman, which is a minor role with no clout, to be honest, explains why he in the end abstained from the vote

tonight i was going to vote no. >> i went into the no lobby to vote no because i, you know , i vote no because i, you know, i couldn't see how i could support the bill after backing all the amendments, i got into the no lobby . i amendments, i got into the no lobby. i spent amendments, i got into the no lobby . i spent about 2 amendments, i got into the no lobby. i spent about 2 or 3 minutes with a colleague in there . the labour lot was all there. the labour lot was all all giggling and laughing and taking the mic, and i couldn't do it in my heart of hearts i could not vote no. so i walked do it in my heart of hearts i cou and)t vote no. so i walked do it in my heart of hearts i cou and comee no. so i walked do it in my heart of hearts i cou and come out. so i walked do it in my heart of hearts i cou and come out. so i've lked out and come out. so i've abstained as well. >> it's very honest, you got to admit, it was very honest. you're not impressed with that, are you? >> not labour mps were >> not so labour mps were laughing so what happens laughing at him. so what happens all they laugh. look, all the time? they laugh. look, the house of is a bear the house of commons is a bear pit. a circus. it's. people pit. it's a circus. it's. people laugh, they sneer . laugh, they mock, they sneer. most them are mates. really most of them are mates. really uh. so get on with it. take uh. so just get on with it. take it chin, mate. it on the chin, mate. >> well, it goes to the house of lords going to lords next. what's going to happen then? don't forget the prime addressing the prime minister is addressing the nafion prime minister is addressing the nation next nation about this in the next houn nation about this in the next hour. joining from hour. but joining us now from westminster our political westminster is our political correspondent, the fallout forster. what's the fallout this morning? catherine, very good morning? catherine, very good

morning . morning to you. >> yes. good morning. just a comment about lee anderson . comment about lee anderson. first, he's come in for a massive amount of criticism, hasn't he , for saying that hasn't he, for saying that basically they were laughing at him. it's worth remembering, i think, that of course, he used to be a member of the labour party. he'd worked gloria to be a member of the labour parpiero,'d worked gloria to be a member of the labour parpiero, the orked gloria to be a member of the labour parpiero, the labour gloria to be a member of the labour parpiero, the labour mp gloria to be a member of the labour parpiero, the labour mp fororia de piero, the labour mp for ashfield, when she decided not to stand. he then went to the conservatives, became the concert candidate and went on to win and have till now a very successful career. so it was the fact that his old colleagues basically were teasing him that proved too much. but it is very different, isn't it? as we said yesterday and you predicted, andrew, it's one thing 60 people rebelling , voting for andrew, it's one thing 60 people rebelling, voting for amendments that they want to see to toughen up the bill. it's another thing entirely to actually vote against the government. when you are a conservative mp, at a time when a general election is looming , when a general election is looming, when labour will be saying , look at them, what

saying, look at them, what a mess they are fighting amongst themselves. not a single person to rwanda, etc. so i don't think it was surprising that in the end, only 11, including former immigration minister robert jenrick, former home secretary suella braverman actually said no, we're voting against this now. obviously in westminster now. obviously in westminster now a little bit of a lull after all the drama , the, um, rishi all the drama, the, um, rishi sunak, yes . we'll be breathing sunak, yes. we'll be breathing a sigh of relief. he's hosting a press conference this morning . press conference this morning. we'll bring you that live. of course , on gb news, our course, on gb news, our political editor , christopher political editor, christopher hope, will be there , and no hope, will be there, and no doubt he will try to paint an optimistic picture. he'll say, look, this bill is going to go through. we're going to get flights off the ground and crossings are down 30, etc. but it is very damaging, crossings are down 30, etc. but it is very damaging , isn't it? it is very damaging, isn't it? we've just had a couple of days in which there's been basically open warfare amongst conservative mps and clearly a substantial number of them simply do not buy the argument that this bill is going to

succeed . they think that yet succeed. they think that yet again , it's doomed. they're again, it's doomed. they're convinced they're going to lose their seats off the back of it. and of course, as a tory mp was pointing out to me yesterday , pointing out to me yesterday, say all of this . yes, it's about say all of this. yes, it's about the bill itself , but it's also, the bill itself, but it's also, isn't it, when some cases about positioning themselves, well, what happens after the next election, which many of them believe is already lost? it's thinking that they would like to be leader, and it's trying to bolster their credentials. so that come the election, assume rishi sunak is booted out . and rishi sunak is booted out. and there's a yougov poll today horrifying for the conservatives. puts . labour, 27 conservatives. puts. labour, 27 points ahead . you know they will points ahead. you know they will potentially be looking for another leader in that scenario. people like suella, braverman and robert jenrick will be wanting to position themselves so they can say, look, i stuck to my guns. i told them this bill would fail and let me leave the conservative party all

right, that's katherine forster in our westminster audio in the studio with us, i'd like to say is sam lister to the daily express, who was there in the thick of the battle yesterday? >> look, surprise >> catherine, look, no surprise to happened? it to you or i. what happened? it because it's. i think you'd have to go back to 1979 for a major piece of government legislation to at the final to be defeated at the final stage commons. and that stage in the commons. and that was, when was, of course, when jim callaghan's government callaghan's labour government came tumbling down. damaged callaghan's labour government cathe tumbling down. damaged callaghan's labour government cathe prime ng down. damaged callaghan's labour government cathe prime minister's damaged is the prime minister's authority after this ? authority after this? >> um, i think the party is damaged. i think rishi sunak comes out of this slightly stronger because he saw them off easily. did, i think what easily. he did, and i think what you an interesting point you make an interesting point about we were about both you and i, we were chatting about chatting earlier about the numbers predicted. i numbers we both predicted. i said in my team, oh, no more said to in my team, oh, no more than yeah. um, and i think than 12. yeah. um, and i think you said the same. and i think if we can see that, how did the rebels that? so what rebels not see that? so what i don't understand why did they don't understand is why did they go battle knowing they were go into battle knowing they were going badly in that going to lose so badly in that full 60 from the day before ? yeah. >> and also because they sam they when tabled thought they when they tabled thought and passed 60, voted for an

amendment . and passed 60, voted for an amendment. they and passed 60, voted for an amendment . they knew the amendment. they knew the amendment. they knew the amendment wasn't going to carry to stop to the european to stop to keep the european court out meddling in our court out of meddling in our affairs and a view i sympathise with. but because the labour party was abstaining, so they they spent two days knocking the spots off the government and the prime minister and knowing what they were doing wasn't going to change anything. and at the final hurdle they all trooped in loyally prime loyally behind the prime minister. did they achieve? loyally behind the prime mirabsolutely did they achieve? loyally behind the prime mirabsolutely nothing. achieve? loyally behind the prime mirabsolutely nothing. it:hieve? loyally behind the prime mirabsolutely nothing. it was e? >> absolutely nothing. it was a great act of self harm. yeah all they've done is damage the party now. sunak does now. actually, rishi sunak does have to tell in have a good story to tell in a way on immigration in that he's cut by a third. uh, cut the boats by a third. uh, you he's putting through you know, he's putting through this legislation is this legislation that is actually tougher than anything that's ever been put through before the rebels have before. and all the rebels have done make this, like done is make this, like a terrible piece of, uh , incoming terrible piece of, uh, incoming law won't work. now, law that won't work. now, actually, you know, if you're a party fighting for survival, why would you out and tell the would you go out and tell the pubuc would you go out and tell the public is terrible, when public this is terrible, when actually there are some positives say that . i positives to, um, say that. i think, catherine think, though, and catherine made about that. made the point about that. everything thinking everything everybody's thinking

about the about what happens after the election , who will the next election, who will be the next tory leader. i mean, i think suella braverman and robert jenrick of pretty much jenrick have kind of pretty much done for now. i mean, you know, they this rebellion, they they led this rebellion, they led everybody hill to the led everybody up the hill to the hill, who there to hill, and then who was there to back one, no one. back them? no one, no one. >> and behind the scenes, we know patel, another know that priti patel, another former secretary she former home secretary she was the to number 10 the one who went to number 10 with idea. you write into with the idea. if you write into the government standing orders , the government standing orders, whatever it is, how they do it, that civil servants will be mandated to do this, to get these flights going irrespective of what the european court does. that was a clever move and it it bought off some of the rebels. so that was behind the scenes. another potential tory leader coming up with quite a good idea. yeah. but i still don't know you'll ever the know if you'll ever persuade the civil servants do as they're told. >> well, there is there is always that. obviously always that. and obviously we know into know priti patel went into battle the did battle directly with the she did servins and, and did win servins uh and, and did win actually for you know that that mini but know, mini battle. um, but you know, i think the difference priti mini battle. um, but you know, i think anddifference priti mini battle. um, but you know, i think and suellaice priti mini battle. um, but you know, i think and suella braverman. patel and suella braverman. there love loss there is

there is no love loss there is no i mean, they pretty much hate each i think fair to each other. i think it's fair to say. think priti patel, say. but i think priti patel, for party is everything. for her party is everything. so party is crucial party loyalty is crucial for her. and obviously so she, she, she was manoeuvring to put the party back on track. well obviously suella was out there, um, trying to stage this rebellion. so i there's rebellion. so i think there's quite a contrast there. so i think when comes post think when it comes to post selection, who's in a better place say, actually, i am the place to say, actually, i am the person this party person to lead this party forward? i think pretty priti patel is in a slightly better position patel is in a slightly better posyeah, sam, if that is >> yeah, sam, if that poll is right, of will right, hardly any of them will be there anyway. >> this is because 27 >> this is this is because 27 point labour lead. >> this is this is because 27 point laiier lead. >> this is this is because 27 point laiis even d. >> this is this is because 27 point laiis even bigger than the >> that is even bigger than the yougov on monday, giving yougov poll on monday, giving labour a 120 majority. labour a 120 seat majority. i mean, that this is we're mean, that is this is we're getting to extinction with getting close to extinction with figures that. figures like that. >> rishi sunak now, if he's >> but rishi sunak now, if he's got any hope at the election, he has get a plane off the has to get a plane off the ground. he to get plane has to get a plane off the grothe. he to get plane has to get a plane off the grothe ground. to get plane has to get a plane off the grothe ground. it get plane has to get a plane off the grothe ground. it doesn'tlane off the ground. it doesn't matter now what, um, pyjama injunctions, whatever. he has to just launch plane. just launch that plane. otherwise game over. but. >> well, and then what? so he launches the plane , and then we launches the plane, and then we hope at that point, the boats

stop coming across the ocean. they might still keep coming. this is the big risk, isn't it? >> it is a risk. yeah >> it is a risk. yeah >> because that plane. can you imagine the headlines. the plane takes off. everybody goes amazing. and day, six amazing. and the next day, six dinghies over the over the dinghies come over the over the sea. yeah. then what? >> interesting, though, this whole thing will have been a fiasco. one senior tory said to me yesterday. they've already chosen first 100 or so chosen the first 100 or so migrants on that plane , and they migrants on that plane, and they would have chosen with would have chosen ones with the most, almost no possibility most, uh, almost no possibility for an appeal. yeah. so it won't stop them, though. it won't stop some flipping human rights lawyer waving a piece of paper. yeah, i've got my legal aid check in the post. oh he's gay, or there's some some other confected issue, but i think they they they, they will have made it as watertight as possible to get that plane in the air. >> yeah. and actually , you know, >> yeah. and actually, you know, the people i've been speaking to inside government, they say, well, understand what well, look, we understand what the rebels were trying to do here. they were trying to make it absolutely proof. there

it absolutely bomb proof. there analogy know, can analogy was, you know, you can build plane it bomb build a plane and make it bomb proof covering it in lead, build a plane and make it bomb procit covering it in lead, build a plane and make it bomb procit will)vering it in lead, build a plane and make it bomb procit will never] it in lead, build a plane and make it bomb procit will never] it iroff.|d, build a plane and make it bomb procit will never] it iroff. so but it will never take off. so sometimes to just deal sometimes you have to just deal with reality. you know, you cannot piece of cannot make a piece of legislation completely watertight legislation completely wate havet it legislation completely wate have t it best just have to make it the best possible bit of law you can. and if these wretched airlines don't want the fly the want to fly the fly the military, you the military military, you get the military to that's. what they doing? >> that's. what are they doing? yeah. why not? >> is some >> i think there is some resistance the military resistance in the military because want to be because they don't want to be drawn into any kind of political scenario, you scenario, but ultimately, you know. there they're involved >> well, there they're involved in trying stop in a small way in trying to stop the flipping channel. the flipping on the channel. yeah. not get them out? yeah. so why not get them out? >> is being >> and i think that is being considered a backup plan. but >> and i think that is being cmean,'ed a backup plan. but >> and i think that is being cmean, we a backup plan. but >> and i think that is being cmean, we are backup plan. but >> and i think that is being cmean, we are inackup plan. but >> and i think that is being cmean, we are in a> and i think that is being cmean, we are in a stranger. but i mean, we are in a strange position in the world now, aren't we, where companies do refuse things these refuse to do things on on these kind of grounds instead kind of ethical grounds instead of, know, it's very of, you know, it's very different years even, different to ten years ago even, isn't just isn't it, where it was just about the business and the about the, the business and the money, and now it's about your credentials social media. so credentials on social media. so it's going to be interesting to see that contract. see who takes up that contract. >> stay with >> okay, sam, stay with us. thank so sam lister, thank you so much. sam lister, princess of wales. >> extraordinary. this we >> um, extraordinary. this we didn't see this coming. did we

admit it to hospital planned admit it to hospital for planned . had abdominal . in fact, she's had abdominal surgery . surgery. >> that's right. hear that >> that's right. we hear that the was successful. it's the surgery was successful. it's expected in expected that she'll remain in hospital for 10 14 days, hospital for 10 to 14 days, which quite a long time. which is quite a long time. >> going into >> king charles is going into hospital to being >> king charles is going into hospitaifor to being >> king charles is going into hospitaifor a to being >> king charles is going into hospitaifor a benigno being >> king charles is going into hospitaifor a benign prostate condition. >> so joining us now is our royal correspondent cameron walker. and royal broadcaster and commentator ralph rafe heydel—mankoo . good morning to heydel—mankoo. good morning to you both. um cameron, i thought of you yesterday when these announcements were made in such quick succession , and i was very quick succession, and i was very keen, actually, to know your opinion on how unusual that is and what the what the logic would be from kensington palace, particularly from a kind of communications point of view, that the rather than do these two announcements on, say, one press release . press release. >> yeah , it was certainly >> yeah, it was certainly a double whammy in terms of health scares yesterday. >> we certainly weren't expecting either of them. but to be honest , over the last couple be honest, over the last couple of have been asking of weeks i have been asking myself, it we haven't myself, why is it we haven't seen the and princess of seen the prince and princess of wales indeed his majesty the

wales or indeed his majesty the king and about in public, as king out and about in public, as perhaps we expect we would do . perhaps we expect we would do. now. we have to remember that the and princess of wales the prince and princess of wales are looked after separate are looked after by a separate communications team at kensington buckingham kensington palace, buckingham palace his majesty palace looks after his majesty the king. but of course, they do talk to one another, and my understanding as to why buckingham decided to buckingham palace decided to release so soon release that statement so soon after kensington palace, an hour and half, an and and a half, um, an hour and a half between the two is because the king had a number of engagements at dumfries house today tomorrow in ayrshire, today and tomorrow in ayrshire, which had to be cancelled on medical advice, and the thought was that if the king kept quiet and cancelled them and then it would just leak out, he'd had to cancel them on medical advice , cancel them on medical advice, and then all us would be and then all of us would be speculating the king is in speculating that the king is in really bad health, clearly really bad health, which clearly isn't because isn't the case because the buckingham been very isn't the case because the buckithatim been very isn't the case because the buckithat the been very isn't the case because the buckithat the king been very isn't the case because the buckithat the king doesbeen very isn't the case because the buckithat the king does havevery isn't the case because the buckithat the king does have any clear that the king does have an enlarged prostate. it's benign, and he will be having a procedure as many men do, his age next week. and it is very rare that a member of the royal

family would give us that specific medical detail as to the diagnosis , as i'm told, the the diagnosis, as i'm told, the reason is that the king wants to encourage other men his age to get checked out by a doctor if they're experiencing similar symptoms . so that's perhaps the symptoms. so that's perhaps the reason why we had those two statements in such quick succession. the princess of wales in hospital, wales remains in hospital, as you 10 to 14 days. she's you said, 10 to 14 days. she's going to there, which sounds you said, 10 to 14 days. she's go me to there, which sounds you said, 10 to 14 days. she's go me perhapszre, which sounds you said, 10 to 14 days. she's go me perhaps like nthh sounds you said, 10 to 14 days. she's go me perhaps like aiich sounds you said, 10 to 14 days. she's go me perhaps like a prettands to me perhaps like a pretty significant procedure . and then significant procedure. and then she's expected to spend 2 to 3 months at home convalescing . months at home convalescing. we're not going to see her until at least easter. it's clearly at least easter. so it's clearly been quite significant. the prince is going to prince of wales is going to split time between spending split his time between spending time in hospital with the princess and at home looking after the children . but of after the children. but of course, week there's going course, next week there's going to be a situation where we have the hospital and the the king in hospital and the future the king in hospital and the futhkay, bring ralph into >> okay, let's bring ralph into this do this conversation. ralph, do you think there's some they've learnt something here the learnt something here at the palace from the controversy after her majesty the queen, the late queen elizabeth was in hospital when the palace was effectively accused of lying

over the fact been in over the fact she'd been in hospital. in for hospital. she'd been in for observation , she'd in for observation, she'd been in for tests. of course, we lost observation, she'd been in for testqueen of course, we lost observation, she'd been in for testqueen about rse, we lost observation, she'd been in for testqueen about as, we lost observation, she'd been in for testqueen about a year lost observation, she'd been in for testqueen about a year later. observation, she'd been in for testqueen about a year later . so the queen about a year later. so perhaps they've decided to be, and i think should be much more transparent this time . transparent this time. >> yes. to a degree that's true. although it should be noted that the palace has been forthcoming previously about medical issues relating to the royal family in 2012, for example, we knew that the duke of edinburgh had been admitted to hospital with a bladder infection after being on a very rainy barge trip down the river thames. uh, we've also known , of course, that two known, of course, that two thousand and seven, our current queen, then duchess of cornwall, had a hysterectomy. we were informed . and of course, informed about. and of course, when prince was in when prince philip was in hospital heart issues hospital with with heart issues shortly before he died, we were kept they kept abreast of that. so they have been forthcoming to a degree. but the policy really always that medical always has been that medical issues , as are all of issues, as they are for all of us, are very personal, us, are a very personal, private matter. the issue you're matter. but the issue you're referring to, you're quite correct in october 2021, her majesty was in hospital and we were all kept in the dark about

that. fact , the royal that. in fact, the royal standard flying standard was actually flying over buckingham palace, even though majesty was not in though her majesty was not in residence because was in residence because she was in hospital. it was only when hospital. and it was only when one the top newspapers one of the red top newspapers learned about this that was going leak that the going to leak it, that the palace forced to actually palace was forced to actually confirm majesty in confirm that her majesty was in hospital. for tests, hospital. that was for tests, however, so a rather less significant event the significant event than the abdominal surgery that the princess wales undergoing . princess of wales is undergoing. >> none of us are here to >> but none of us are here to speculate about it, but speculate about it, ralph. but i think commendable that the think it's commendable that the king been so about his king has been so open about his own because we know own condition, because we know that bad at that men are especially bad at checking , um, uh, putting it checking, um, uh, putting it bluntly, checking their bits. and we should be particularly anybody over the age of 55, 60. and this will help them perhaps help break down the barriers and the stigma. yes >> i mean, the issue of the prostate is probably something that makes most men somewhat squeamish. it's one of those subjects people don't like to talk about, but it's something that's actually going to affect the of men when the vast majority of men when they get into the older stages

of life. it affects, i think, 1 in 3 over age of 50. but in 3 men over the age of 50. but once you get above the age of 80, every man will 80, virtually every man will have deal this issue in have to deal with this issue in some another. so some form or another. so anything that can be done to increase awareness is welcome. and when i was listening bbc and when i was listening to bbc radio yesterday and they had a whole programme on whole whole programme on a whole section prostate because section on the prostate because of is encouraging of this. so this is encouraging and generating new stories which can only be a good thing, and it just shows actually you just shows actually how, you know, decent the principal, know, how decent the principal, the king is . the king is. >> cameron, what will this mean for the rest of the royal family in terms of stepping up to cover royal duties, particularly for the princess of wales between now and the spring? >> well, we're not going to be seeing the princess of wales really until easter. the queen, as we understand, is going to keep calm and carry on, as are the less senior members of the royal family as to whether the king needs counsellors of state to deputise on his behalf. my understanding is that's not the case. so although we're not

going to be seeing the king in pubuc going to be seeing the king in public following his hospital treatment next week for a bit of time, from my understanding he is going to be still well enough to carry out those red government box duties, which he has. signing off bits of official statements and reading government notes as well. so there is still work going to be going on behind the scenes. but as for the public engagements, they much to they are very much going to be left to the queen and the less senior of the royal senior members of the royal family. wales. family. the princess of wales. in palace in the kensington palace statement did statement yesterday did apologise postpone apologise for having to postpone apologise for having to postpone a number of her engagements. >> okay. all right. thank you both . cameron rafe heydel—mankoo. >> thanks. yeah interesting. sam, we've run out of time . sam, we've run out of time. sadly we'll talk to you sadly so. but we'll talk to you again . again. >> that's shame. yeah, yeah. >> that's a shame. yeah, yeah. from newspaper from the most royal newspaper there the express. sam. there is from the express. sam. um right. okay. still to come this morning, the pm will address the nation shortly after he saw off a rebellion from right last night. right wing tory mps last night. this is britain's newsroom on gb news the people's champ. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of whether solar, the sponsors of whether

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gb news. >> very good morning. it's 10:00 >> very good morning. it's10:00 on thursday the 18th of january. britain's newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> well, it's relief for rishi. the prime minister's rwanda bill passed the of passed through the house of commons mps commons with only 11 tory mps voting it . it's now voting against it. it's now going to the house of lords. the prime speaking prime minister will be speaking at conference at a press conference any minute now . how. >> now. >> and royal healthcare king charles prepares to be treated in hospital next week, and the princess of wales is doing well. we're here after having abdominal royal abdominal surgery. our royal correspondent, walker abdominal surgery. our royal correspolatest walker abdominal surgery. our royal correspolatest . walker has the latest. >> yeah, the princess of wales spending her third day in hospital following that planned

procedure. meanwhile, the king remains at birkhall in aberdeenshire with the queen. he will be in hospital next week. tune in shortly for the latest pnces tune in shortly for the latest prices off the roads . prices off the roads. >> we're looking at the scandal of train station ticket machines, which routinely charge more than double the price of booking online, or if you go to the ticket office, are you feeling forced to do everything via the tech option? what about those who can't? and it's why via the tech option? what about thosewantedan't? and it's why via the tech option? what about thosewanted tot? and it's why via the tech option? what about thosewanted to close it's why via the tech option? what about thosewanted to close down rhy via the tech option? what about thosewanted to close down the they wanted to close down the ticket offices of course. >> and the mother of two year old bronson battersby said that her was just two inches too her son was just two inches too small to reach a fridge full of food before he starved to death next his father's body. the next to his father's body. the investigation continues as. >> that ticket thing is a scandal, isn't it? oh, the ticket machines are so complicated, and i mean, i find them complicated. imagine if you're here from abroad and now we know why the rail operators wanted all those ticket offices

closed down. because sometimes you'll ticket half the you'll get your ticket half the price of the machine price of what the machine charges you. it's disgraceful . charges you. it's disgraceful. >> it's the movement of travel, no pun intended, isn't it? everything we have to no everything we have to do? no cash, no cash . gb cash, of course. and no cash. gb views at gb news. com is the email address. get in touch with your morning. your thoughts this morning. first the news first though, here's the news headunes . headlines with sophia. >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's 10:00. i'm >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's10:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the prime in the gb newsroom. the prime minister faces a final hurdle for his controversial rwanda plan. as the bill moves to the house of lords debate designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers . the third reading seekers. the third reading passed the commons unamended and with a majority of 44 dozens of tories, threatens to threaten to rebel. but in the end only 11 voted against it, downing street described the win as a major step in the pledge to stop small boats, but the legislation is now expected to face tough

opposition in the lords . now expected to face tough opposition in the lords. home office minister chris philp says the bill will serve as a deterrent . deterrent. >> i think ultimately the british public want to see the government deliver. i think the fact we've got small boat crossings down 36% year on year is a welcome step, but obviously the pledges to stop them completely and this bill is an important part of that. now tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history. >> schools have closed. public transport is limited, and hospitals are offering only christmas day level services as teachers, transport and healthcare workers walk off the job, their demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretary's intervention for the release of funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused , chris heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one.the saying the matter is a devolved one. the princess of wales is said to be doing well as she recovers after abdominal surgery

. princess katherine's planned procedure on tuesday was deemed a success, but as expected, she'll stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile king charles will be treated for a benign , enlarged prostate next benign, enlarged prostate next week . the 75 year old monarch week. the 75 year old monarch says he's keen to go public with his condition to encourage other men to get checked out and the us has carried out another round of strikes on iranian backed houthi targets in yemen. 14 sites were hit, with the military saying they posed an imminent threat to navy ships in the red sea region . it's after the red sea region. it's after rebels struck an american owned vessel passing through the gulf of aden yesterday. it's the fourth set of us strikes in under a week with washington also relisting the houthis as terrorist . its uk forces were terrorist. its uk forces were not involved in the latest action. a prosecutor who was investigating an attack on a tv studio in ecuador has been killed . cesar suarez was shot killed. cesar suarez was shot dead while travelling to a court heanng dead while travelling to a court hearing the tv station invasion last week saw masked men burst

into a studio and threaten staff at gunpoint during the live broadcast . the country has seen broadcast. the country has seen a recent surge in violence, with explosions across the city and the kidnapping of police officers. it's unclear whether his death is linked to his investigation, but police say it had the hallmarks of an assassination in train . tickets assassination in train. tickets cost more at station machines , cost more at station machines, with the consumer group finding passengers are paying twice as much as those online, which says same day tickets were particularly high and the best value fares were either unavailable or hidden among opfions unavailable or hidden among options on many machines. the study found a journey from northampton to cardiff cost £107 from a machine, but £43 online. plans to close hundreds of rail ticket offices in england were scrapped in november after pubuc scrapped in november after public uproar , and snow and ice public uproar, and snow and ice warnings remain in place across parts of the uk, with the cold snap expected to continue into the weekend . the met office has the weekend. the met office has issued an amber alert in northern scotland, saying power

cuts and travel disruption are possible . some areas could also possible. some areas could also see an extra 15 to 20cm of snow. so much of the uk saw temperatures fall below freezing overnight, with some regions dropping to as low as minus 11. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on your digital tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to andrew and bev of . back to andrew and bev of. >> now then, if you see me, keep getting the giggles this morning, it's because i'm sat to next robocop every few minutes andrew starts vibrating andrew pierce starts vibrating and making a strange noise . it and making a strange noise. it happened two seconds before we read the menu. >> it's nothing to do with my diet before you wonder, i have i have on my arm and it's been on since 6:00 last night. a blood pressure cook. they're testing my pressure hours. i've my blood pressure 24 hours. i've also monitor. it also got a heart monitor. it proves one. before any proves i've got one. before any of you've quite of you say, oh, you've got quite . so. this is all part of the perils of getting older. they've

got to check with you here. >> if you hear what sounds like, um, the air conditioning going on, which is what i thought it was this morning, as i said, what's noise? and said, what's that noise? and he said, oh, so that's what it oh, it's me. so that's what it is. we want to raise is. but we want to raise awareness. these awareness. we do. of these issues. your blood pressure checked. >> get heart checked. yeah, right. >> let's see what you've been saying you do hear saying at home. if you do hear it. honestly, start it. honestly, if i start giggling, sorry. giggling, i'm ever so sorry. >> people excited by >> lot of people excited by little bronson, aren't little boy bronson, aren't there? two year old. there? yeah. two year old. and i think jennifer puts it very nicely. the of little nicely. in the case of little bronson to death, he bronson starving to death, he was to next his dad. in fact, he was to next his dad. in fact, he was dad's was clinging on to his dad's leg. found him . leg. that's how they found him. his had died of a heart his dad had died of a heart attack. was wondering where attack. i was wondering where his she his mother was and why she hadnt his mother was and why she hadn't for so long. we hadn't seen him for so long. we don't know the detail of this, but the police were but we know the police were involved. services involved. social services involved. social services involved. hadn't seen involved. but mum hadn't seen bronson two bronson for the best part of two weeks, necessarily unusual. >> and think i do >> and i think i do feel a little bit over christmas. services are getting a hard time for this is a guy who was for this. this is a guy who was looking boy. he looking after his little boy. he died check it died and nobody came to check it was christmas. sounds like was over christmas. sounds like social services try twice social services did try twice but couldn't get

but couldn't couldn't get in. um, police. um, they told the police. >> police break the >> the police didn't break the door i door down, but eventually i think they did. >> yeah, well, it was too late. >> yeah, well, it was too late. >> um, and the police are investigating it. >> it's awful . really, really >> it's awful. really, really awful story . um, on rwanda, on awful story. um, on rwanda, on on the vote last night. jim has said after more huffing and puffing, everyone decided to save skins and vote save their own skins and vote for a rwanda plan that might not really work. the most humiliating factor here is that the rwandan government have intimated that if the plan does not work, they will return our money. >> well, let's say they do give it they got they've it back because they got they've had £280 million. and as labour keeps saying, we've sent two home secretaries there so far. yeah no, no refugees. >> karen says if i was a commoner from rwanda, i'd be mortified country had mortified that my country had offered conditions offered amazing conditions for illegals being dragged illegals that were being dragged through . but of through the uk courts. but of course we're paying for it. it's not the it's not necessarily the rwandan money. and on the royal family, amanda has said with two members of the royal family in hospital putting hospital and william putting royal back burner royal duties on the back burner to the family, we

to look after the family, we need take a serious look at need to take a serious look at who in during an who steps in during an emergency. where's harry getting who steps in during an emergephone.1ere's harry getting on the phone. >> we're that desperate. >> we're not that desperate. don't bring those now. don't bring those two back now. >> yeah , just one more then. >> yeah, just one more then. >> yeah, just one more then. >> and elizabeth says love >> and elizabeth says we love the we hope that the royal family. we hope that all members make a speedy recovery. >> we certainly do. now, the prime minister did off the prime minister did see off the rebellion. it failed to materialise just 11 tory mps voted against the rwanda bill, which now goes to the house of lords. >> that's right. but a sunak celebrates eight small migrant boats crossed this the uk , the boats crossed this the uk, the ocean. only yesterday the channel now as the migrant crossings resume. let's cross to dover to speak to our gb news reporter lisa hartle . good reporter lisa hartle. good morning lisa. what have people been telling you there about events of the last 24 hours? >> hello? well, i've only spoken to a handful of people so far because it's still pretty quiet, actually. but someone told me dover really gets busier around midday, so hopefully we'll get to speak to more people around that time. but the people i have

spoken single one of spoken to, every single one of them, very deflated they them, are very deflated and they all apart from one lady, all said apart from one lady, actually, they all said they've got the government, got no faith in the government, no who is in power. on no matter who is in power. on how far this issue can be tackled . the one lady that did tackled. the one lady that did have faith, said she's got have faith, she said she's got faith because you've got have faith because you've got to have faith. the faith. um, some of the suggestions that people gave were that this needs something that needs to tackled in that needs to be tackled in france, and any, any kind of way of trying to deal with it over here. they can't see a way of that um, someone else that working. um, someone else said that there should be a safe and legal way that people can apply come here, so they apply to come over here, so they wouldn't to take the wouldn't have to take the drastic and life threatening way of the channel but of crossing over the channel but the general consensus from consent from everyone is they just can't see a way of this being solved, no matter who is in power. >> okay. you . lisa lisa >> okay. thank you. lisa lisa hartle down in dover . now hartle there down in dover. now joining studio is joining us in studio is barrister columnist barrister and columnist for perspective. fowles. sam perspective. sam fowles. sam good to see you . good to see you. >> you're he's pleased at all. this isn't he. because you hate this bill don't you . this bill don't you. >> do hate hate the bill. but

>> i do hate hate the bill. but i'm about about this i'm not pleased about about this . i want wanted the bill to . i want i wanted the bill to get get voted down. well, there's two things that i really hate one, i don't like hate about it. one, i don't like that this is mps instructing the courts to find, to essentially pretend that rwanda is safe when the courts have reviewed the facts and found that rwanda is not safe. >> they didn't say that, sam. you know, didn't say it. you know, they didn't say it. the they were worried the court said they were worried that that when people were in rwanda, be shipped that that when people were in rwanto, be shipped that that when people were in rwanto where be shipped that that when people were in rwanto where they be shipped that that when people were in rwanto where they camee shipped that that when people were in rwanto where they came from. ped back to where they came from. they didn't say it was an unsafe country. know, country. and as we know, the united council, united nations council, human refugees refugees refugees is sending refugees there year from libya there every year from libya because confident they're because they confident they're going safe there. going to be safe there. >> well, that's the definition of when you're talking of safe when you're talking about refugees , includes are you about refugees, includes are you going to get sent, sent, sent to down an unsafe country? so it's a fair point . and that's the a fair point. and that's the sense using it in. sense that i'm using it in. right. reason i don't right. the other reason i don't like is i don't like like it is that i don't like politicians making decisions about fundamental rights of minorities is and taking it out of the hands of the courts that

are going to properly consider and properly consider the facts and properly consider the facts and properly consider the facts and properly consider the law . and properly consider the law. whereas where rather than politicians making these decisions on the basis of am i going to keep my seat in the next? >> so you mean it sets a dangerous precedent whereby politicians are doing the job of lawyers? i think, well, more importantly, politicians doing the job of judges, actually. >> and we have different institutions for good reason, different institutions are good at different things. and parliament is there to represent , in theory, the will of the majority. although the people that this bill only that voted for this bill only represent about 44% of the voting electorate , the they're voting electorate, the they're not good at protecting the rights of individuals , be that rights of individuals, be that immigrants be that people, people that were born in in britain. and that's what the courts are for, to make sure that there is a point over which the government cannot cross with our rights. >> but don't you accept, sam, that there is overwhelming pubuc that there is overwhelming public support for stopping the boats now, they may not agree necessarily with mechanism necessarily with the mechanism of rwanda, but there is huge ,

of rwanda, but there is huge, um, opposition these people um, opposition to these people coming across the channel illegally . my, i know your illegally. my, i know your dispute that point, in which case parliament has to act to do something because the judges and the judges have taken far more power in the last 20 years than they had when i was growing up. and when you were growing up. thanks to tony blair and his human rights act >> going agree with >> well, i'm going to agree with you the first point. you on the first point. >> think agrees that >> i think everyone agrees that we boats coming we don't want small boats coming across not least across the channel, not least because incredibly because it's incredibly dangerous. to put dangerous. no one wants to put people situation. but people in that situation. but this problem that is this is a problem that is entirely created by politicians in westminster. up until 2019, when the small boats was was almost not an issue at all. there was, you know, you were talking, you can count the crossings on the fingers of two hands, but because aukus politicians wanted to look tough and wanted to use immigration as and wanted to use immigration as a as a wedge issue to, to divide people, they put more and more barriers to safe and sensible routes for coming across,

therefore thereby creating the demand for small boats. that's not right either. >> sam, i don't agree with you. it's because they managed to stop them flooding in through the they were the channel tunnel. they were much is much tougher. their security is much tougher. their security is much they diverted much stronger that they diverted their attention, then moved to their attention, then moved to the channel to cross the channel that because few that way, because very few people on the back people now come in on the back of lorry. of a lorry. >> well, goes back >> well, but it goes back website, isn't it? i think there were more checks put in on the on the channel tunnel, but i'm saying i'm going to say it goes back that as well. what back beyond that as well. what this a i'm not blaming this is a and i'm not blaming any particular government here this is a and i'm not blaming any pa there r government here this is a and i'm not blaming any pa there was vernment here this is a and i'm not blaming any pa there was the,nent here this is a and i'm not blaming any pa there was the, thet here either. there was the, the labour governments in the noughfies labour governments in the noughties were equally guilty of doing , um, of putting its doing this, um, of putting its putting more and more barriers in the way of people coming across safely . so a back of across safely. so a back of a lorry is also not a safe way to, to come across if rather than paying to come across if rather than paying the you know, people smugglers, thousands of pounds to come across on the back of a lorry or in a in a small boat,

that people that want to claim asylum in britain should be able to come across on a plane or on to come across on a plane or on a to come across on a plane or on a boat and have their, uh, have their application processed quickly and efficiently and properly . properly. >> why can't they make that application even remotely onune?i application even remotely online? i ask this question. it seems so obvious. doesn't it? we're talking about the fact we can't even train ticket can't even buy a train ticket without it on your without doing it on your computer. can't people computer. why why can't people apply for asylum their from apply for asylum from their from their country of origin, or even from france, or even germany or italy, if they managed to get there, might to there, they might have to say where there, they might have to say wh> bev. >> bev. >> and we can decide. >> and we can decide. >> have to, because >> we might have to, because they might have where they might have to say where they're they they're from. and then they wouldn't get asylum, because a lot these people are lying lot of these people are lying about they're from, about where they're from, because their papers about where they're from, beca the their papers about where they're from, beca the side their papers about where they're from, beca the side the their papers about where they're from, beca the side the boat.:)apers over the side of the boat. >> if that's true, >> but also, if that's true, isn't sam? isn't it, sam? >> no. >> no. >> you were an asylum seeker, >> if you were an asylum seeker, the essence of an asylum the essence of being an asylum seeker running away seeker is you're running away from they're not running >> but they're not all running away. coming for away. they're coming here to for away. they're coming here to for a life. saw what the a better life. we saw what the mayor of that mayor in north london are. what is it london said. we are. what is it you dorado? hang you said? el dorado? well, hang

on, to number on, we've got to go to number 10. stay there. prime 10. sam. stay there. prime minister about to speak minister is about to speak in number back of his number 10 on the back of his victory night in the victory last night in the in the commons. this is an urgent national priority. >> treaty with is >> the treaty with rwanda is signed. legislation signed. and the legislation which rwanda a safe which deems rwanda a safe country, has been passed unamended in our elected chamber, now only one chamber, there is now only one question will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people, as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that. we have a plan and the plan is working . a plan and the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down, not just down by bit , went down, not just down by bit, down by a third, compared to crossings in the year before . crossings in the year before. and that's in the context of arrivals being up 80% in europe over the same period . but to over the same period. but to really solve this problem, we need a clear and effective deterrent so that people know that if they come here illegally, they will be detained and swiftly removed. that's what

this rwanda bill delivers . with this rwanda bill delivers. with all their efforts to block this bill, the labour party have shown that they simply don't get it. their priority is not stopping the boats , but stopping stopping the boats, but stopping the planes, removing people who have no right to be here. they may talk the talk , but they have may talk the talk, but they have no plan . if they were in charge, no plan. if they were in charge, there would be no treaty, no bill, 12 months of progress would be squandered. it would take us back to square one, and i can tell you this for certain small boat arrivals would go back up . it would mean giving back up. it would mean giving a green light to criminal gangs of people smugglers that they can keep their deplorable illegal trade going . it would mean trade going. it would mean spending millions more every day housing illegal migrants in hotels in our communities , and hotels in our communities, and it would mean more people are likely to lose their lives by tragically drowning in the channel. that's the consequence of having no plan. that's why we have to stick to our plan .

have to stick to our plan. that's why the house of lords must pass this bill. it's time to take back control of our borders and defeat the people smugglers. it's time to restore people's trust that the system is fair. we are making progress to stop the boats . but now it's to stop the boats. but now it's past time to start the flights . past time to start the flights. thank you . so we turn to some thank you. so we turn to some questions from the media. can we start with the bbc? >> thank you, prime minister. chris mason from bbc news. the story of the last year is one of you trying everything to improve your political fortunes , being your political fortunes, being the agent of change, being the face of continuity and the polls suggest that nothing has worked. given that your party is continuing to take lumps out of each other and indeed lumps out of you, is it time for you to say to them explicitly to put a sock in it ? sock in it? >> well, the conservative party last night demonstrated that they are completely united and wanting to stop the boats, and this bill passed with an overwhelming majority in

parliament. but more broadly, last year was difficult . it's last year was difficult. it's difficult for the country. were still recovering from the impacts of covid. the legacy of backlogs in our public services , backlogs in our public services, and also the impact of the war in ukraine on people's bills . in ukraine on people's bills. but at the start of this year , but at the start of this year, we pointing in the right we are pointing in the right direction and have made direction and we have made progress and that's why we've got to stick to the plan, because that's how we'll deliver the terme change that the the long terme change that the country needs. that's we'll country needs. that's how we'll build our build a brighter future for our children pride in build a brighter future for our chilcountry pride in build a brighter future for our chilcountry. pride in build a brighter future for our chilcountry . and pride in build a brighter future for our chilcountry . and the pride in build a brighter future for our chilcountry . and the plane in build a brighter future for our chilcountry . and the plan is] our country. and the plan is working , and you can just look working, and you can just look at what's happened on inflation. for we set out clear for example, we set out a clear plan we've delivered that plan we've delivered on that plan. because inflation has plan. and because inflation has been from 11% to 4, we're been halved from 11% to 4, we're now able to cut people's taxes. so just the other week, a significant tax cut for tens of millions of people in work worth £450 for someone on £35,000. so that shows that the plan is working. and if we stick to the plan, we can deliver that positive change for the country. the alternative is that we just go back to square one because

that's all the labour party are offering. keir starmer hasn't said what he would do differently. he's four years said what he would do diisetently. he's four years said what he would do diiset out. he's four years said what he would do diiset out a -ie's four years said what he would do diiset out a plan four years said what he would do diiset out a plan fhe years said what he would do diiset out a plan fhe hasn't to set out a plan and he hasn't and that won't make anything better. that's why our plan better. and that's why our plan is the right and we're going is the right one and we're going to deliver for to keep on it and deliver for the next. i turn to itv , the country next. i turn to itv, uh, prime minister robert peston. >> um , when you announced a year >> um, when you announced a year ago your pledge to stop the boats, the british people didn't think that meant reduce them . think that meant reduce them. they thought that meant reduce them to negligible levels by the general election. that's not now going to happen, is it? um, and then overnight, we've seen more strikes on houthi missile sites by america . how worried are you by america. how worried are you that the conflict in the middle east is widening and deepening ? east is widening and deepening? >> thank you. robert the british people will obviously judge the progress we're making, but i'm actually proud of the progress that we've made tackling this issue.i that we've made tackling this issue. i always said when i made that first speech, i think you were you were there. i said,

look, is difficult look, this is a difficult problem, it's going problem, right? it's not going to be overnight. there's to be solved overnight. there's not one single silver bullet that fix it. but i'm that will fix it. but i'm a prime minister who wants to take on the biggest challenges that we country, even if we face as a country, even if they are difficult, even if they will fix. because will take time to fix. because that's leadership is about. that's what leadership is about. i'm not going to take the easy way out. you at way out. and if you look at our track record for the first time, the small boat the number of small boat arrivals this country went arrivals into this country went down. down by over down. it went down by over a third last year. that didn't happen by accident. it happened because we put a lot of work in and we lot of decisions. and we made a lot of decisions. we've increased number we've increased the number of illegal enforcement raids by 70. we're starting to close the bank accounts of 7000 people who shouldn't be here. we returned 20,000 people back to their own countries last year. we created new deals with france, with turkey to smash the gangs upstream . and all of that has upstream. and all of that has meant that we can reduce the numbers and that we can show that we're making progress on this issue. but i'm also clear that the only long terme

solution to this problem to solution to this problem is to have deterrent . and that's why have a deterrent. and that's why the rwanda scheme is so important. we know that deterrence works because we've implemented it with albania. our deterrence works because we've impldealited it with albania. our deterrence works because we've impldealited ialbanialbania. our deterrence works because we've impldealited ialbania means our deterrence works because we've impldealited ialbania means that new deal with albania means that if come here illegally from if you come here illegally from there, will be returned. there, you will be returned. we've over 5000 people we've returned over 5000 people last and you know? last year. and what do you know? the numbers coming from albania dropped that's what dropped by 90. and that's what rwanda will allow us to do more broadly . and that's why it's so broadly. and that's why it's so important that this important that we pass this bill. i believe have bill. so look, i believe we have made progress on this issue. real progress. but to real progress. but i want to stick plan that plan is stick to the plan that plan is working, as i've demonstrated. and stick to the plan , and if we stick to the plan, we'll able to deliver the we'll be able to deliver the change people want, which change that people want, which is of our is proper security of our borders to the borders and end to the unfairness migration unfairness of illegal migration and to spending millions of and end to spending millions of pounds hotel bills. the pounds on hotel bills. the alternative is that we go back to square one, right? and that was clear yesterday. and you talked about the debate. the labour have offered no labour party have offered no alternative , no plan to tackle alternative, no plan to tackle this problem. and actually, worse than that , when keir worse than that, when keir starmer has been asked about this, he's been asked about the

rwanda scheme specifically and it's him. if it's it's been put to him. if it's even working even if it's working and reducing numbers, would you still scrap and said, still scrap it? and he said, yes. so that's the choice yes. right. so that's the choice , that's working , right? our plan that's working . stick with it. we can deliver the change or you just go back to one. and other to square one. and your other question just briefly on the houthis, to and see houthis, i want to try and see if many as i can as if talk take as many as i can as i've said in parliament earlier, the situation concerning the the situation is concerning the rise in attacks on commercial shipping is both illegal and causing enormous disruption to the global economy and putting innocent lives at risk. it was right that we took action to protect both interests and lives and together with allies , we've and together with allies, we've been very clear in our condemnation behaviour been very clear in our condemrcontinue behaviour been very clear in our condemrcontinue to behaviour been very clear in our condemrcontinue to urgehaviour been very clear in our condemrcontinue to urge them|r and will continue to urge them to desist from carrying out what are illegal attacks and putting dangerous and putting innocent people's next, people's lives at risk. uh next, can we go to sky ? can we go to sky? >> thank you. thank you, beth rigby . thank you, prime minister rigby. thank you, prime minister prime minister, you say that the parties is united. you've won the vote. but several letters of no confidence in you have been

submitted on the back of the events of last night. but what is your message to those colleagues who look at this bill and think that you with now truss level poll ratings are the wrong man, is the wrong man for the job. i said i'm interested in sticking with the plan that i set out to the british people, because that plan is working right. >> it is delivering real change. and if we stick with that plan, we'll be able to build a brighter future for everyone's families in this country. a renewed sense of pride in our nafion renewed sense of pride in our nation and the progress that we have made is demonstrable . all have made is demonstrable. all right, as i said, last year was a tricky year. recovery from the legacy of covid backlogs in our pubuc legacy of covid backlogs in our public services, the impact of the war in ukraine on energy pnces. the war in ukraine on energy prices . but the war in ukraine on energy prices. but we are now pointing in the right direction. progress is being made. we've now had five months where wages have been rising faster than price . been rising faster than price. his people have started to see the benefit in mortgage rates for those coming down. inflation has fallen as i've said, from

over 11% to 4. and because of that progress, we were able to deliver a very significant tax cut for tens of millions of people in work. now, obviously , people in work. now, obviously, progress on the boats is there, but we need to go further . but but we need to go further. but like my main message is the plan is working right across the board. you can see the progress is being made and our job is to is being made and ourjob is to stick to that plan, deliver for the country . and the the country. and the alternative, as i said , is alternative, as i said, is clear. you know, keir starmer has had four years to set out an alternative and he hasn't done so right . alternative and he hasn't done so right. this alternative and he hasn't done so right . this is alternative and he hasn't done so right. this is someone who alternative and he hasn't done so right . this is someone who is so right. this is someone who is just sniping the sidelines, just sniping from the sidelines, can't what he's going just sniping from the sidelines, ca do. what he's going just sniping from the sidelines, ca do. cruciallyrhat he's going just sniping from the sidelines, ca do. crucially he: he's going just sniping from the sidelines, ca do. crucially he can't going just sniping from the sidelines, ca do. crucially he can't tell|g to do. crucially he can't tell you how he's to pay for you how he's going to pay for a £28 billion green spending spree, which is just going to be in everyone's taxes are going to go in everyone's taxes are going to 9° up in everyone's taxes are going to go up at a time that we're now starting to cut them. right. so there's very choice. and there's a very clear choice. and i conservative party i think the conservative party is completely in wanting i think the conservative party is delivertely in wanting i think the conservative party is deliver for in wanting i think the conservative party is deliver for the in wanting i think the conservative party is deliver for the country,1nting i think the conservative party is deliver for the country, cut1g to deliver for the country, cut their to their taxes, and crucially, to stop boats next, we go stop the boats. next, can we go to channel 4? thank you, prime

minister. >> um , the habit of the lords is >> um, the habit of the lords is to not actually stop legislation, particularly the government. the sort of majority party, but to delay it. so assuming you do get your bill put into law by the spring, can you 100% guarantee a plane will take off to rwanda before the general election? >> my, you can look at my actions. we had the supreme court ruling middle of middle of november , and within a matter of november, and within a matter of weeks after that happened, we negotiated and signed a treaty with rwanda and brought fresh legislation to parliament that had its first vote as well, and was supported. right. so that gives you a sense, i hope, of the urgency with which we are attacking this problem. i've been crystal clear that we want to do this as quickly as possible. you can see the urgency with which james and michael and the team are operating , and it's now up to operating, and it's now up to the house of lords . operating, and it's now up to the house of lords. right. i think the country has been very

clear that this is a priority. we've been very clear that this is a priority for and is a priority for us and parliament, that the elected parliament also with a very parliament has also with a very strong majority in the last night, supported this legislation . i think it's legislation. i think it's incumbent now the of incumbent now on the house of lords to pass lords to recognise that to pass this unamended as this legislation unamended as quickly as possible, so that we can then start getting flights up and running. and what i would say is, you know, we are not waiting for that moment. we are working hard already. we to do all the planning that would be required get those flights required to get those flights off for that day. off in preparation for that day. there's lot that will go into there's a lot that will go into that, but want to know there's a lot that will go into that,we've want to know there's a lot that will go into that,we've already to know there's a lot that will go into that,we've already to kbeen that we've already we have been working on it. we're intensifying work that intensifying the work on that because we determined because we are determined to start off start getting flights off so that implement this that we can implement this deterrent. message to deterrent. and so my message to the would be, the house of lords would be, look majority last night. look at the majority last night. they see what a priority they can see what a priority this for country. and this is for their country. and we very confident this we are very confident that this legislation is robust and compliant our compliant with all our obugafions compliant with all our obligations will crucially , obligations and will crucially, do and now we need do the job. and now we just need to get on with it next time . to get on with it next time. >> ms martin, from the times,

um, your legal advice explicitly states and i'll quote, not to comply with rule 39 would be a breach of international law. and this will be could be very crucial in terms of whether flights do take off this year. so will you seek new legal advice or are you prepared to breach international law in order those flights off? order to get those flights off? >> i've been crystal clear repeatedly that i won't let a foreign court stop us from getting flights off and getting this deterrent up and running the bill specifically contains a power and makes it clear that ministers are the ones that make these decisions . parliament has these decisions. parliament has supported that . there's also the supported that. there's also the bill makes expressly clear that the domestic courts should respect that decision . and very respect that decision. and very simply, we would not have that clause. i would not have put that clause in the bill if i was not prepared to use it. so look, if you're asking me, are there circumstances which i will circumstances in which i will ignore 39? and answer ignore rule 39? and the answer is clearly it important is clearly yes. it is important that fix this problem. we

that we fix this problem. we believe that have believe that we have done absolutely everything right now. of always be of course, there will always be individual where individual circumstances where people rightly would expect us to the facts, but are to examine the facts, but are there circumstances in which i'm prepared to move ahead in the face of a rule 39? the answer is clearly yes, because it's important that we grip this problem. as i said, made problem. as i said, we've made progress the plan progress on this issue. the plan is working, we've got to is working, but we've got to stick the plan so that we can stick to the plan so that we can finish job. and that's finish the job. and that's what we're uh, next, can we're going to do. uh, next, can we're going to do. uh, next, can we the i, uh, thank you, we go to the i, uh, thank you, prime minister hugo gye from the l, prime minister hugo gye from the i, um, one of your other priorities you mentioned priorities that you mentioned just now is cutting taxes . just now is cutting taxes. >> are you confident that you can to cut taxes in the can continue to cut taxes in the budget and beyond, given the very tight fiscal situation , very tight fiscal situation, very tight fiscal situation, very large stock of debt and looming squeeze on public services ? services? >> without speculating on future budgets , which, as a former budgets, which, as a former chancellor, i would prefer that prime ministers didn't do um, but our priority is to cut taxes when it's responsible to do so. >> um , and again, this is a good

>> um, and again, this is a good illustration of where our plan is delivering for the country . is delivering for the country. as i said, we've because of the decisions we've made, inflation last year more than halve from just over 11. when i took office, to 4% as of yesterday. right. and so that didn't happen by accident. that happened because this government was prepared to take the right long tum decision for this country, even though they're not easy. right. you can contrast our leadership with that of keir starmer . leadership with that of keir starmer. right. prepared starmer. right. we're prepared to right things for the to do the right things for the country, even if they're difficult and take the easy difficult and not take the easy way how deliver way out. that's how you deliver real people . and now real change for people. and now because because we because of that, because we control borrowing, we control welfare , we control inflation. welfare, we control inflation. we were able to cut people's taxes and just to put it in context, for someone on an average of £35,000, average salary of £35,000, that's tax cut worth £450. that's a tax cut worth £450. that kicked in just a couple of weeks ago. so it's meaningful. and as i said , we want to keep and as i said, we want to keep cutting people's taxes because we believe that people should be able to keep more of their own

money. to make sure that money. i want to make sure that this hard this is a country where hard work rewarded. those are the work is rewarded. those are the things believe because things i believe in because it's important to ask why, right? this is not just about extra this is not just about the extra pennies in bank pennies and pounds in your bank account at end of the month. account at the end of the month. this about our values, my this is about our values, and my values is a values are that this is a country hard should country where hard work should be trying be rewarded, and that's trying a country that i to build. country that i want to build. that's keep that's why we want to keep cutting people's taxes . and cutting people's taxes. and again, is clear. stick again, choice is clear. stick with us. plans working has already cut your tax and we will be able to keep doing that. the alternative is the labour party and keir starmer once again can't tell anybody how he plans to pay for his £28 billion green spending spree . i can't tell spending spree. i can't tell anyone. spending spree. i can't tell anyone . so what does that mean ? anyone. so what does that mean? that means everyone's taxes are going to go up, right? so that's a choice at the next election. do you want to stick with the plan that's delivering tax cuts for you? delivering financial security a country where workers are . the alternative are rewarded. the alternative £28 billion of borrowing that the labour party can't tell you how they're going pay for,

how they're going to pay for, which your are which just means your taxes are going very going up. the choice is very clear. would be back to clear. that would be back to square on this question of square one on this question of taxes . next, we'll go to the sun i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you, prime minister jack carson from the sun. just back onto the echr. you just said that you would be prepared to overrule rule 39 orders in some circumstances . the problem some circumstances. the problem is that many of your mps don't think that when push comes to shove, you'll actually be tough enough do enough to do it. >> can you convince them by >> so can you convince them by laying down some red lines in which be which you would actually be overruling judges ? overruling strasbourg judges? >> so look, i'll go back to what i i specifically i said before. i specifically put a clause in the bill that makes it clear that it is ministers that make those decisions. i wouldn't have put that in bill if i that clause in the bill if i wasn't prepared use it. now, wasn't to prepared use it. now, of course, there will always be individual as individual circumstances, as even debated this even those who have debated this issue over the past couple of days acknowledge, there will always individual always be individual circumstances be circumstances where it will be right facts are considered, right that facts are considered, but it's the but ultimately it's the ministers to decide. i've been very that i won't let a very clear that i won't let a foreign stop us from

foreign court stop us from getting flights off and establishing deterrent, because we with all the checks we believe with all the checks and processes that we've put in place with this bill, that we are acting in complete accordance with everything that is required of us, all the safeguards that we've got mean is required of us, all the safegwe've that we've got mean is required of us, all the safegwe've behaved ve got mean that we've behaved properly, carefully , parliament will have carefully, parliament will have spoken and made sure that it's parliament's will as well. once this bill passes . so that's why this bill passes. so that's why i can say confidently that i will make sure that i get this deterrent up and running. you know, i wouldn't have put this in if i wasn't prepared to use it. and as i said, there it. and as i said, are there circumstances would circumstances in which i would use course there are, use it? of course there are, because want to make sure that because i want to make sure that we issue and we can resolve this issue and stop make good stop the boats, make good progress. i want to make progress. but i want to make sure we finish the job, and sure that we finish the job, and that getting rwanda that requires getting rwanda up and . all right, next, go and running. all right, next, go to the daily mail. >> thanks, pam. when's the first flight to rwanda going to go? because people are sick of empty promises on this. >> before, uh , it's >> you said before, uh, it's going to be easter. is it still going to be easter. is it still going to be easter? has it

supped going to be easter? has it slipped to the summer? you going to be easter? has it slippyguaranteeummer? you going to be easter? has it slippyguarantee that|er? you going to be easter? has it slippyguarantee that a'? you going to be easter? has it slippyguarantee that a flight you even guarantee that a flight will go this year? >> yeah, jason, what i can tell you is i want to see this happen as soon as practically possible. >> of course, i do. right. and that's james and michael and that's why james and michael and the team worked incredibly hard after got the supreme court after we got the supreme court judgement middle of judgement in the middle of november to not just sign a brand new treaty with rwanda to negotiate and sign, but then also introduce new legislation into parliament and have it voted on before christmas . that voted on before christmas. that happened matter weeks. happened in a matter of weeks. right? you right? so that should give you a sense we are not messing sense that we are not messing around because also around here because we're also frustrated and fed up . right? frustrated and fed up. right? i share the frustration the british people have. i said i wanted this legal merry wanted to end this legal merry go just get with go round and just get on with this. this so we're this. at this point. so we're working fast and as quickly working as fast and as quickly as can. the question as we can. and the question really is for the house of lords, right. and that's the question of question is will the house of lords understand the country's frustration? see the will of the elected house and move as quickly we have to support quickly as we have to support this legislation so we can get it on the statute books and then get flights up and running? and

as we're as i've said previously, we're already operational already doing the operational work that's required make work that's required to make sure can get flights up sure that we can get flights up and this is one part of a plan thatis and this is one part of a plan that is working. we're carrying on doing all the other things that are meaning that we can get boat numbers down and working with other countries to smash crime upstream , interdict crime gangs upstream, interdict boats engines as they travel boats and engines as they travel across the continent , make sure across the continent, make sure that we strengthen our returns agreements . continue to find agreements. continue to find those who working here those who are working here illegally those work illegally and return those work through the backlog so that we can hotels. we just can empty hotels. we just announced and delivered on the first hotel closures, 50 first 50 hotel closures, 50 hotels returned to local communities. more of that is coming . that's because we've coming. that's because we've doubled the number of caseworkers and tripled their productivity . so we cleared more productivity. so we cleared more asylum decisions last year than at any point in the last 20 years. right. and i can go on and on. right. there are a lot of that are happening of things that are happening here plan working. here and that plan is working. we and we are making progress and that's so important we that's why it's so important we stick because it stick to this plan because it will deliver what the british people , which proper

people want, which is proper security them and their security for them and their families and our country. security for them and their families and our country . when, families and our country. when, as this question for the as i said this question for the house of lords to pass this as quickly possible, we're quickly as possible, we're doing everything can as everything we to can work as quickly possible, we will quickly as possible, and we will be to go to the guardian next. >> thanks, prime minister pippa crerar from the guardian . um, crerar from the guardian. um, 32% of those whose asylum claims were withdrawn last year have disappeared . and now we hear disappeared. and now we hear lots about you being a details man. so how do you expect to find them? and are you concerned that the rwanda bill might result in thousands more desperate people disappearing in the uk to avoid being deported ? the uk to avoid being deported? >> so i'm not sure exactly what numbers you're referring to. i had seen some yesterday today from the office to the home from the home office to the home affairs select committee after, um. ah, so the vast majority of people in that cohort of 17,000 either have already been removed or are in the process of moving on or have made another claim. so that's what's going on there. and look, more generally, because there's been some

comment about this, i'm not going. i think it's absolutely the right thing that once someone's has someone's asylum claim has been denied and absolutely denied and they absolutely should withdrawn from the should be withdrawn from the process, they should not have access to public support to pubuc access to public support to public funds. and if they are, then at that point not reporting back to the home office as they're meant to, then immigration enforcement should do do everything that do absolutely do everything that they to can identify these people, detain them and send them back. and that's what we've done last year. so we had a 70% increase in illegal immigration enforcement raids , thousands of enforcement raids, thousands of arrests, and we returned over 20,000 people. and i think that's what the british people would expect us to do when people are in the process and ultimately their claim is denied. like very quickly, quickly, people would expect us to able to identify them, to be able to identify them, find them where we can find them and where we can return them . that exactly return them. and that is exactly what we're doing. and think what we're doing. and i think that's the right thing to do. but again , doesn't happen by but again, doesn't happen by accident. it's because we have a plan. put that in place plan. we put that plan in place and hard to deliver it

and we worked hard to deliver it and we worked hard to deliver it and is working and we and that plan is working and we will continue to do that this yeah will continue to do that this year. rwanda year. and said rwanda is important, these other important, but all these other things important and things are important too. and we're delivering across the board that the progress board and that is the progress that unwound . and that would be unwound. and that's the choice that the election, all the things that we're doing that are delivering progress, like we would go back to square one because the labour party does not have a plan on any these issues. and that's any of these issues. and that's why there is a clear choice when the time comes. uh, next we the time comes. uh, and next we go to the express. >> thank you . steph. spyro from >> thank you. steph. spyro from the express. what are the consequences for the rebels in your party if they don't lose the whip? why not? can they rebel without any consequences ? rebel without any consequences? >> as i think on on this issue, the conservative party last night was united in wanting to stop the boats. and you saw that very clearly and it's right that we debate this. and that's because people are frustrated and passionate about this issue , and passionate about this issue, right? because the country is frustrated and exercised about this issue and they want it

fixed. so it's understandable that people are have got strong opinions. it's understandable that they want to do everything , that they want to do everything, uh, necessary to solve this issue.i uh, necessary to solve this issue. i share that frustration and i, i share that energy. and that's why we are doing everything that we can. but last night, conservative party night, the conservative party came and is absolutely came together and is absolutely unhedin came together and is absolutely united in wanting to stop the boats and the contrast could not be clearer because the labour party, this party, to a person, oppose this legislation mission. right. so the and the focus now the question and the focus now has to be on our plan, which has got to be on our plan, which is already delivering. we are already making progress with the numbers down last year by over a third, or what the labour party are saying, where there is absolutely no plan, would take us back square one. and us back to square one. and that's worse because i don't actually believe keir starmer wants this issue. as wants to resolve this issue. as i was he i said when he was asked if he would stick the rwanda would stick with the rwanda scheme, it was up and scheme, even when it was up and running and working, he said he would right. i would still scrap it right. i think that tells you what you need know , right? this need to know, right? this is someone who says, oh, he's interested smashing interested in smashing the gangs. question i gangs. but then the question i still had an answer to still haven't had an answer to is then labour

is why then does labour party vote powers in our vote against the powers in our previous , which have allowed previous act, which have allowed us arrest 873 criminals and us to arrest 873 criminals and people smugglers who have now been sentenced to over 350 years in jail? all right. those are new powers that we passed to smash the gangs that are leading to people being taken off the streets and put in jail, which all contributes to a deterrent effect. but the labour party voted against that. so keir starmer will say one thing and do another thing , right? and do another thing, right? and that and that is symptomatic of his overall approach to leadership. right. this is an election year and the choice of that election is going to be clear, right. we have got a plan. that plan working . if plan. that plan is working. if we stick with it, we can deliver a brighter future the a brighter future for the country. renee food, pride in our country the alternative our country and the alternative is we go back to square one is that we go back to square one because he can't tell you what he's because he he's going to do because he doesn't plan . have we got doesn't have a plan. have we got time for one last one? lbc >> hello natasha clark, lbc . >> hello natasha clark, lbc. >> hello natasha clark, lbc. >> thank you. prime minister.

rwanda has said that they are willing to pay back some of the money that gave them. if no money that we gave them. if no one there, you one has flown there, can you promise that you will fight to get penny of taxpayers get every penny of taxpayers money flights go off money back if no flights go off to natasha , i am fighting every >> natasha, i am fighting every day to get flights to day to get the flights off to rwanda , right? that is what rwanda, right? that is what james doing. that's what james is doing. that's what michael that's what i'm michael does. that's what i'm doing want to stop doing because we want to stop the boats. we made good the boats. we have made good progress. is working progress. the plan is working the by a the numbers are down by over a third . last year, for first third. last year, for the first ever you that ever time. that shows you that the plan is working. but if we stick the plan, we get stick with the plan, we can get this an effective this done. we need an effective working deterrent . that's what working deterrent. that's what the scheme delivers . the rwanda scheme delivers. that's my view. that's that's not just my view. that's the of many lawyers the view of many eminent lawyers , former supreme court judges, all of whom have said that our plan will work. so i said the question now is for the labour party in the house of lords, will this so will they support this bill so we get on the statute we can get it on the statute book as quickly as possible so that we can the flights? that we can start the flights? because that's what we need to do. how we're going to do. that's how we're going to stop boats. thank you very stop the boats. thank you very much. stop the boats. thank you very mu so that was rishi sunak in >> so that was rishi sunak in a very relaxed , very fluent. he

very relaxed, very fluent. he was rather effective . i thought was rather effective. i thought this morning we've still got some with lawyer some foals with us. the lawyer and columnist prospective and columnist for prospective sam. nothing like victory sam. nothing like a victory overnight in commons to put overnight in the commons to put a his step. but next a spring in his step. but next stage, battle to goes on in the lords, where lawyers like you will be piling in to try and destroy the bill. and i see alex carlile, who was the government's former terrorism adviser. he's in the house of lords and a barrister lawyer, says to try and says they're going to try and kill it. stone dead. >> think, frankly , that >> yeah, i think, frankly, that is exactly what's going to happen. we can't can't try and hide hide away from it. happen. we can't can't try and hide hide away from it . the hide hide away from it. the there's a lot of people in the house of lords. we'll see whether it's a majority that think the entire bill is a is a bad there's some some bad idea. and there's some some lawyers be annoyed lawyers are going to be annoyed by of sleight of hand by the sort of sleight of hand that rishi sunak is coming out with. and many legislators with. and some many legislators will be on like the will be on things like the injunction clause. and he's claiming there that he's given himself the power in this bill to ignore injunctions from the european court of human rights. well, actually, good, i hope he

does. but it was the he had that power all along. he would have had exactly the same powers if that bit of paper and the that that bit of paper and the bill was, was blank. so it's, it's purely of it's just purely there's bits of this that purely this bill that are purely performative good performative and so and good legislators will just cut that out completely because it's a waste of paper. but the, the laws will be much, much more concerned with the more fundamental issues with this bill, which is that breaches bill, which is that it breaches international law. and we know that because it says so on the front the the bill. and front of the of the bill. and that makes britain look front of the of the bill. and that a1akes britain look front of the of the bill. and that a basket ritain look front of the of the bill. and that a basket case. look like a basket case. >> so but the unelected house of lords we will destroy lords will say we will destroy legislation that's come from the elected house of commons. that's what acceptable i >> -- >> well, 5mm m >> well, well, this house of firstly this this government that's put in this. firstly this this government that's put in this . it's true. that's put in this. it's true. yes. >> it's a yes. it was this. the commons is the elected chamber, sam. and the elected commons chamber passed this bill chamber have passed this bill with a comfortable majority . you with a comfortable majority. you all seem to be condoning an unelected house of lords wrecking , destroying the bill wrecking, destroying the bill completely .

completely. >> i think you can't have it both ways. that's what you're trying do. house of lords is trying to do. house of lords is what got right down to me. what we've got right down to me. both houses elected, but currently the majority in the house of commons represent. it's less than the less than 44% of the of the country. so they don't the country . don't represent the country. they're perfectly happy to put their friends in the house of lords and benefit from the house of lords when it when it helps them. so then they've they've got play game. they've if got to play the game. they've if they have the house of they if they have the house of lords on their side when it's doing things they like, they've going put with it. going to have to put up with it. when does things that they when it does things that they don't when it does things that they dorthank good to see >> thank you sam. good to see you sam their you as always, sam fails their barrister. to come barrister. right. still to come this don't buy this morning. if you don't buy your online, be your train tickets online, be prepared absolutely ripped prepared to be absolutely ripped off ticket stations. this off at the ticket stations. this is britain's newsroom on .

that i knew had dewbs& co weeknights from six. >> lots . of conversations going >> lots. of conversations going beside me as carol marlow must beside me as carol marlow must be here. dawn neesom must be here. they don't pay any attention presenters as attention to us. presenters as they talk about the they are here to talk about the big story. can i just ask you both thought of rishi both what you thought of rishi sunak? did rather well. >> he was quite confident , >> he was quite confident, wasn't i mean, nothing like wasn't he? i mean, nothing like a victory. >> yeah, but i mean >> i well yeah, but i mean i just he still seems to lack the courage of his convictions and does anybody believe what he says anymore . says anymore. >> i mean you know the other day he said, you know, i will defy the echr.

>> no you won't, we. no, we won't. i think the won't. well, and so i think the british people lost faith. british people have lost faith. >> he's bolstered >> he's got he's bolstered because now in your because we now know in your paper malone, express. they paper malone, the express. they did piece about did a really good piece about this. patel went this. how priti patel went behind the scenes and said, why didn't this? prime didn't you do this? prime minister mandate civil minister mandate the civil servants minister mandate the civil servwill put the pain in, even you will put the pain in, even if the echr intervenes. great and off a of and that bought off a lot of rebels. but will they? they rebels. but will they? can they still civil servants do it? >> they can't get the civil servants their sofas at servants from their sofas at home office. how are servants from their sofas at hom> they're still getting the london allowance. london weighting allowance. thank you very much. >> think rishi sunak >> i think i think rishi sunak is much better on a is so much better on a q&a situation he is situation like that than he is when doing his speech. he when he's doing his speech. he sounds weak. >> much better. >> yeah, but much better. >> yeah, but much better. >> seen press >> we have seen press conferences takes the conferences where he takes the bbc, one station bbc, itv and one other station andifs bbc, itv and one other station and it's done because he's he's in a huff and a so he did, he did of us, of did lots of us, lots of them today. although somehow today. although he somehow managed yeah managed to miss gb news. yeah funny that. managed to miss gb news. yeah fun wellat. managed to miss gb news. yeah fun well yeah managed to miss gb news. yeah funwell yeah i think carol's >> well yeah i think carol's right though don't right though i just don't believe any of them say.

right though i just don't belie any any of them say. right though i just don't belie any politicaly of them say. right though i just don't belieany political point.em say. right though i just don't belieany political point. in say. right though i just don't belieany political point. i mean, now any political point. i mean, we're in an election year. it's just noise now. we're in an election year. it's justyeah, noise now. we're in an election year. it's justyeah, no we're w. to >> yeah, i know we're going to be about the bill in the be talking about the bill in the next in the next half, but but i mean, think, you no mean, i just think, you know, no one after watching them all fighting cats in a sack, fighting like cats in a sack, this week, you whose side this week, you think, whose side are they our are they on? are they on our side? on britain's side? are they on britain's side, they fighting side, or are they just fighting among other and that among each other and we see that and disrespect and we disrespect them. >> as saying with >> yeah. as we were saying with sam lister earlier, these tory mps two mps bumped up and down for two days, kicking and they days, kicking and then they hated other. yeah, they hated each other. yeah, they passed to passed all these amendments to try the bill, try and toughen up the bill, knowing couldn't be passed knowing they couldn't be passed because were abstaining. because labour were abstaining. yes. in last yes. and then they caved in last night, predicted night, as i predicted they would. it would. so what was the point? it was you know what that's about. well, it's posturing in their constituencies. well, it's posturing in their constitlike:ies. well, it's posturing in their constitlike suella braverman and them, like suella braverman and robert jenrick robert jenrick, he's the latest who thinks he could leader . oh, my could be tory leader. oh, my god, i saw him. >> walked down the high >> he walked down the high street. would recognise >> nobody would recognise him. >> nobody would recognise him. >> patrick >> you see. i mean, patrick christys great interview christys did a great interview with night he with him the other night and he was to prime was posturing to be prime minister. a haircut to minister. he's had a haircut to try and make it look like a caesar try and make it look like a cae he's weight. >> he's lost weight. >> he's lost weight.

>> you what? you're so >> you know what? you're so right, andrew, because so many of standing in this of these mps standing in this election actually detaching election are actually detaching themselves election are actually detaching the|conservatives election are actually detaching the they ervatives election are actually detaching the they probably even not >> they probably won't even not conservative election literature. >> putting >> they're not putting rishi sunak on literature. sunak on their literature. >> distancing >> they're they're distancing themselves from the constituents because we from big because as we saw from that big poll week, nine out of ten poll this week, nine out of ten constituencies want immigration limited nine out of ten. >> only nine out of ten. >> only nine out of ten. >> , i mean, that was the >> well, i mean, that was the poll, suspect it's poll, but i suspect it's probably more. >> but also, people should be living under estimate them don't >> but also, people should be livin manyar estimate them don't >> but also, people should be livin many peopleiate them don't >> but also, people should be livin many people iate here? don't >> but also, people should be livi there/ peopleiate here? don't >> but also, people should be livi there/ pecaleiate here? don't >> but also, people should be livi there/ peca le iat> there was a poll last week saying that most people think it's about 10% of what truly it's about 10% of what it truly is in terms of immigration. that's right? that's legal immigration, right? dawn yeah. kate dawn let's move on. yeah. kate and the king and the and charles, the king and the we're not going to speculate about , are we not? about, are we not? >> no, we're not gonna speak about what's wrong with her because asked not to know. and think %- >> and i don't think it's unusual, isn't it, to be in hospital two weeks? hospital for two weeks? >> isn't it, you're >> yeah. isn't it, if you're only 40, major surgery. >> good luck to her. >> yeah. and good luck to her. i don't should. don't think we should. i wouldn't want speculating wouldn't want anyone speculating on i was on on medical treatment i was having so i wonder why they've said surgery, though. having so i wonder why they've saiithey've surgery, though. having so i wonder why they've saiithey've sort surgery, though. having so i wonder why they've saiithey've sort of 'gery, though. having so i wonder why they've saiithey've sort of giventhough. having so i wonder why they've saiithey've sort of given a)ugh. >> they've sort of given a little of detail. think little bit of detail. i think they either said

they should have either said nothing or told us it is. nothing or told us what it is. because that because if it is something that people talk about, king people want to talk about, king charles of charles is doing a good job of raising of prostate raising awareness of prostate issues. something issues. maybe there's something that told us, that she could have told us, i don't know. well, i think look, i think maybe they didn't there weren't more vague because weren't even more vague because you'd have even more speculation. >> they had narrow it >> i think they had to narrow it down slightly and obviously, you know, know had problems know, we know she had problems dunng know, we know she had problems during pregnancies. i'm not during her pregnancies. i'm not speculating but you know, during her pregnancies. i'm not spe

details, weaponizing it details, but he's weaponizing it for the good. me say he's for the good. let me say he's weaponizing what's happening to him encourage him for the good, to encourage more people to go, which is a fantastic but just fantastic thing, but it just shows how he to shows how committed he is to kind modernising the monarchy. >> if i'm alone, go back just a couple of years, the palace were did well when the did not behave well when the queen hospital. kept queen was in hospital. they kept the flying over the royal standard flying over buckingham implied the royal standard flying over buchas1am implied the royal standard flying over buchas inn implied the royal standard flying over buchas in residence. implied the royal standard flying over buchas in residence. yes. implied the royal standard flying over buchas in residence. yes. yeah.ied she was in residence. yes. yeah. and they eventually admitted she was hospital . you shouldn't was in hospital. you shouldn't lie , all right? you don't have lie, all right? you don't have to it in the public domain. to put it in the public domain. but don't lie it. but don't lie about it. >> back to kate a minute >> just go back to kate a minute there. what i wanted say was there. what i wanted to say was that, you know, it is the reason i people are so shocked is i think people are so shocked is because had a queen. this is because we had a queen. this is why that for because we had a queen. this is why decades, that for because we had a queen. this is why decades, hardly1at for because we had a queen. this is why decades, hardly everyr because we had a queen. this is why decades, hardly ever went many decades, hardly ever went to this to hospital. and that's why this is the kate at 42, is so shocking. the kate at 42, has been admitted for something so and for two so serious that and in for two weeks. two weeks. are weeks. for two weeks. you are never hospital. never in hospital. even the private don't you private hospitals don't keep you for and to be off for two weeks. and to be off work the next two months is work for the next two months is a lot time. william has a lot of time. william has cancelled his entire diary for a lot of time. william has can(to.ed his entire diary for a lot of time. william has can(to be his entire diary for a lot of time. william has can(to be there, tire diary for a lot of time. william has can(to be there, so diary for a lot of time. william has can(to be there, so it's ry for a lot of time. william has can(to be there, so it's not)r this to be there, so it's not something simple. >> so . so who said was. i think

>> so. so who said was. i think beth she'd send beth said she'd be send for meghan harry. meghan and harry. >> the breach. no. >> step into the breach. no. >> step into the breach. no. >> how desperate are we? >> how desperate are we? >> bev's got a theory, but we can't say because you said can't say now because you said no. speculating. no. no, we're not speculating. i don't why. no. no, we're not speculating. i dor no, why. no. no, we're not speculating. i dor no, no, why. no. no, we're not speculating. i dor no, no, irhy. no. no, we're not speculating. i dor no, no, i wonder, would you >> no, no, i wonder, would you want were in hospital? want it if you were in hospital? >> you want that >> no, you don't want that speculation because we don't know. you know, know. you might be. you know, she be, you know, she might be, you know, princess, mean, think princess, but i mean, i think she's, she's she's, she's she's a mum. she's a she's a woman. she's. a wife, she's a woman. she's. you that. you say that. >> charles has spoken. he's >> but charles has spoken. he's he's known he's let it be known what's wrong but that's so. wrong with him. but that's so. >> the king. but that's >> but he's the king. but that's his choice. >> that's he. he is the king. and he is. >> she has. she has they >> she has. she has said they didn't tell us. >> they. they been in day >> they. they she's been in day three. found out three. we only found out yesterday afternoon. yes. because obviously going yesterday afternoon. yes. beitiuse obviously going yesterday afternoon. yes. beit was obviously going yesterday afternoon. yes. beit was going sly going yesterday afternoon. yes. beit was going to going yesterday afternoon. yes. beit was going to come going yesterday afternoon. yes. beit was going to come out.ng yesterday afternoon. yes. beit was going to come out. yes to it was going to come out. yes >> they stay with us. run >> so they stay with us. we run out time. out of time. >> that because the press >> all that because of the press conference i'm afraid this morning speaking to two morning we'll be speaking to two conservative anywhere. >> don't go anywhere. >> don't go anywhere. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar of weather on . gb solar sponsors of weather on. gb news. hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie from the met office.

>> there'll plenty of >> there'll be plenty of sunshine although it sunshine out there, although it will very cold will still feel very cold through of the day. through the rest of the day. >> there is a risk of ice as well as heavy snow across scotland where that amber warning force. we've warning is still in force. we've got northerly bringing in got a northerly wind bringing in arctic bringing that arctic air that's bringing that bitterly particularly arctic air that's bringing that bitterly northern particularly arctic air that's bringing that bitterly northern areas:ularly arctic air that's bringing that bitterly northern areas where to more northern areas where we'll see heavy snowfall across the highlands and the northern isles through the rest of the the highlands and the northern islesthere's1 the rest of the the highlands and the northern islesthere's already;t of the the highlands and the northern islesthere's already been he the highlands and the northern islesthere's already been quite day. there's already been quite a few centimetres and a few centimetres of snow, and so travelling will be very difficult through afternoon. difficult through the afternoon. here there's also risk of ice here there's also a risk of ice for areas of northern for many areas of northern ireland, as well as western scotland, inland areas scotland, but inland areas elsewhere should stay very dry , elsewhere should stay very dry, with plenty of sunshine and highs around 2 or 3 degrees. so still a very chilly feel and it's going to be another cold night. clear skies for the bulk of the uk. it will be cloudier with heavy snow still continuing across northern areas of across many northern areas of scotland, but the snow will start to come in to parts of the highlands the northwest highlands and from the northwest overnight bringing respite overnight, bringing some respite to far north. so to the far north. so temperatures in the far south dipping down as low as minus nine degrees, not quite as low

across northern scotland, with that thicker cloud and through friday, the winds, the wind direction switches to more of a westerly. so it will be a slightly warmer day . there'll be slightly warmer day. there'll be plenty of sunshine and dry weather for many areas of england, wales as well as southern scotland and northern ireland. scotland will see southern scotland and northern irelybulk scotland will see southern scotland and northern irelybulk of scotland will see southern scotland and northern irelybulk of any tland will see southern scotland and northern irelybulk of any further ill see the bulk of any further snow, with snow and ice with another snow and ice warning in force. see you next time . that warm feeling inside time. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsor. hours of weather on gb news . of weather on gb news. >> next we're talking to two tory mps, bob seely and tobias ellwood, to give their thoughts on rishi sunak's press conference morning on what conference this morning on what next bill with next for that rwanda bill with britain's news, britain's newsroom on gb news, with people's

channel 11:11 am. on thursday, 18th of january. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> very good morning to you. so rishi rwanda, the prime rishi on rwanda, the prime minister he hopes to minister says that he hopes to get flights off to rwanda as soon practically possible, soon as practically possible, but guarantee that but he fails to guarantee that any leave before next any will leave before the next election . election. >> don't though, he says >> don't worry though, he says he's got a plan. we have a plan and the plan is working . and the plan is working. >> last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down, not just down by a bit, down by a third, compared to crossings in the

year before . year before. >> and two royal health scares king charles prepares to be treated in hospital next week, and the princess of wales is doing well after abdominal surgery . surgery. >> prices were there well and truly off the roads. we're looking at the scandal, frankly, of railway station ticket machines, which routinely charge more often double the price of booking online or at those railway station ticket offices . railway station ticket offices. so we're asking what you think about that . about that. >> and public sector strikes more than 100,000 public sector workers are on strike in northern ireland today over pay disputes. let us know if you're affected and the mother of two year old bronson battersby is such a sad story, said her little boy was two inches too small to reach a fridge full of food before he starved to death next to his father's body. >> police investigation >> the police investigation continues .

continues. >> and if you're watching yesterday we talked a lot about britain's strictest short haired katharine birbalsingh. she runs the emanuel school in london, and she has issued a statement. as you know, she's in court this week because one of the pupils, a muslim pupil, is saying that she should provide a for space pray. catherine's statement is brilliant. she released it yesterday, so we will let you know what she said on that. we're going to be discussing it with gb with our panel gb views at gb news. com is the email address. first though, the latest first though, the very latest news sophia wenzler . news with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's 11:01. i'm >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's11:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the prime in the gb newsroom. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill, designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers. the third reading, passed the commons unamended last night with a majority of 44. dozens of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against

it . rishi sunak insists the vote it. rishi sunak insists the vote showed the tories are completely united. and he says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority. >> there is now only one question will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people, as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that. we have a plan and the plan is working . a plan and the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down, not just down by a bit, down by a third, compared to crossings in the year before. and the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms a 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats. >> it means 621 people have now arrived in the uk. so far this year , despite more than two year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather and tens

and thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history . schools have recent history. schools have closed public transport is limited and hospitals are offering only christmas day levels of services as teachers transport and healthcare workers walk off the job, their demand for more pay comes as the stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretary's intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused, saying it's a matter for the devolved government . the devolved government. the princess of wales is said to be doing well as she recovers after abdominal surgery . princess abdominal surgery. princess katherine's planned procedure on tuesday was deemed a success, but she's expected to stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile, king charles will be treated for a benign, enlarged prostate next week. the 75 year old monarch says he's keen to go pubuc old monarch says he's keen to go public with his condition to encourage other men to get checked. the us has carried out

another round of strikes on iranian backed houthi targets in yemen. 14 sites were hit with the military saying they posed an imminent threat to navy ships in the red sea region . it's in the red sea region. it's after rebels struck an american owned vessel passing through the gulf of aden yesterday. it's the fourth set of us strikes in under a week with washington also relisting the houthis as terrorists. uk forces were not involved in the latest action. a prosecutor who was investigating an attack on a tv studio in ecuador has been killed . last ecuador has been killed. last week, masked men burst into a tv station and threatened staff at gunpoint during a live broadcast. cesar suarez was shot dead while travelling to a court hearing. it's unclear whether the attack is linked to his investigation , but police say it investigation, but police say it looks like he was targeted and train tickets cost more at station machines, with the consumer group finding passengers are paying twice as much as those who go online, which says same day tickets were particularly high and the best

value fares were either unavailable or hidden among opfions unavailable or hidden among options on many machines. the study found a journey from northampton to cardiff cost £107 from a machine, but was only for £43 online plans to close hundreds of rail ticket offices in england were scrapped in november, after public uproar and snow and ice warnings remain in place across parts of the uk , in place across parts of the uk, with the cold snap expected to continue into the weekend. the met office has issued an amber alert in northern scotland, saying power cuts and travel disruption are possible , while disruption are possible, while some areas could also see an extra 15 to 20cm of snow and much of the uk saw temperatures fall below freezing last night, with some regions dropping to low as —11. in this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to andrew and . bev.

andrew and. bev. >> very good morning. let's see what you have been saying at home. um, about the royal family , uh, with two members of the royal family in hospital , says royal family in hospital, says amanda william putting royal dufies amanda william putting royal duties on the backburner. we need to look at who steps in in an emergency. somebody else was saying and harry. meghan and harry. >> please stay where are. >> please stay where you are. >> please stay where you are. >> don't california . really? >> yeah. um. >> yeah. um. >> and also prince andrew, he can stay where he is in windsor royal lodge. >> i don't think we need him. >> i don't think we need him. >> you realise that the bench is a little light? >> they are. >> they are. >> well, the king wanted to trim down down. the royal down and slimmed down. the royal family happening family and it's happening anyway. yes. well, anyway. yeah yes. well, harry and have cleared and meghan have cleared off. sulked and, you flounced sulked and, you know, flounced out. prince andrew has out. yeah. uh, prince andrew has been rested from public life forever and the older dukes , forever and the older dukes, duke of gloucester, duke of kent, you rarely see them. >> we , we mentioned as well that >> we, we mentioned as well that we're going to be talking about the katharine birbalsingh story. sorry. she she did sorry. and she she did a statement yesterday , uh, because

statement yesterday, uh, because we were talking about this, the michaela school , we were talking about this, the michaela school, isn't it, that she runs and she basically is in court this week. we mentioned it a lot yesterday because one of the pupils, a muslim pupil, wants there to be a prayer room and she has given a statement that says we are rated outstanding by ofsted. we have a unique culture that out unique culture that turns out young exceptional young people with exceptional character . she her school has character. she her school has the highest ever recorded progress at gcse level in a state funded school , she says. state funded school, she says. we have a large number of muslim pupils and their positive experiences helped grow the experiences have helped grow the number school by 50. and number at the school by 50. and she says we believe it is wrong to separate children according to separate children according to religion or race. it is our duty to protect all of our children, to provide them with an environment that is free from bullying, intimidation and harassment . and she says that harassment. and she says that despite the fact that they have a hugely multicultural makeup at the school, first and foremost, she says , we are british. she says, we are british. >> yeah, good for her. and she has been subjected to horrific

abuse and threats and death threats . she's an incredibly threats. she's an incredibly brave woman and i hope she wins this court case, which is ongoing now. we've been talking, of course, about it was a comfortable victory in the end last night, as expected it last night, as i expected it would the prime minister would be. the prime minister says he's proud of the progress made stopping the boats. made on stopping the boats. should he be our reporter. sophie been in lee, sophie reaper has been in lee, up in greater manchester, to ask local locals if they think the rwanda deal is going to tackle illegal migration. >> at the moment, no, i don't think so. >> um, no, not really . >> um, no, not really. >> um, no, not really. >> why not? um just because they've promised other things and they've never really followed up? >> no . >> no. >> no. >> so tell me, why not? why not? >> so tell me, why not? why not? >> how many chances of the odd how many chances is i don't trust any government to tackle the immigration at the moment. >> why not? i think it's too difficult to tackle. not one country in the in europe's managed to tackle it . managed to tackle it. >> joining us now is

conservative mp for the isle of wight, bob seely . good morning wight, bob seely. good morning bob.uh wight, bob seely. good morning bob. uh good to see you as usual. you voted obviously with with the government yesterday . with the government yesterday. okay. just just tell us why . okay. just just tell us why. because you see the reaction from the public. there's very little faith going to little faith it's going to change okay change anything. okay >> that's a great question by the way. on the on the royals, we princess anne and prince we have princess anne and prince edward isle of edward come down to the isle of wight a lot. so there are wight quite a lot. so there are some good royals some really good working royals still out there. um, just the still out there. um, just on the on the question you asked the worst thing last night would have been to have no third reading. so to not get the bill through, i understand people's cynicism . um, i feel that cynicism. um, i feel that cynicism. um, i feel that cynicism as well, because sometimes i think , is there sometimes i think, is there nothing that we can do that's going to have an effect? but i think you've now got an accumulation of things that we're doing. we have already stopped or reduced illegal migration by 30% just on the returns policies . so if you're returns policies. so if you're an albanian and you come here illegally, you go back to albania. likewise bulgaria,

likewise turkey . so we've got likewise turkey. so we've got those returns, deals and we need more of them. we've got clamp down on illegal employment in the . we've got greater the uk. we've got greater cooperation with the french and we've got the rwanda bill going through the planes by themselves. are not going to have the an entirety of an effect . but what they will do to effect. but what they will do to and reassure some of your viewers , some of which are on viewers, some of which are on the isle of wight, who care a lot about this for good reason. there is now an acute collation of work being done, which i hope by this summer will see a significant reduction in bev just one other thing on this at a time when we are getting them down in the uk, but not enough for um, illegal migration is dramatic , going up in almost dramatic, going up in almost every single other country in europe . so you've got us coming europe. so you've got us coming down and you've got everywhere else going up. >> do you think, bob, there was a bit of self—indulgence going on in commons amongst some on in the commons amongst some of who, 60, of your colleagues who, 60, rebelled amendment, 60 on rebelled on one amendment, 60 on another and another knowing

another 60, and another knowing that they couldn't change the legislation because the labour party was sitting on hands. party was sitting on its hands. so every time they were or they were the government were criticising, the government looked like a disunited rabble. and then you see the poll in the front of the times today, front page of the times today, bob, party is now 27 bob, the labour party is now 27 points ahead. look it's not it's not so much a landslide . you're not so much a landslide. you're heading for extinction. if these polls are proved right . polls are proved right. >> yeah, but let's see the polls . if i went and spoke to isaac levido . listen to isaac levido levido. listen to isaac levido on monday . who's our pollster on monday. who's our pollster and our campaign manager? i think, um, is a correct phrase for him. um, the polls that count are the polls that are going to be much nearer the election because if you look now, the largest factor in almost all the polls , especially almost all the polls, especially when it comes to people who voted conservative in 2019, is that haven't made up that they haven't yet made up their minds. so if we lose those people, we are in big trouble. but we can those people but if we can get those people back, got a fighting back, but we've got a fighting chance and i just say this chance and i would just say this we a plan. we're putting it we have a plan. we're putting it into effect. and labour have no

plan. if looked at keir plan. and if you looked at keir starmer's interview last starmer's dire interview last week, uh, on the bbc, he i think his bbc breakfast, um, you will see that the labour party don't have answers to our country's problems. so all those folks that you've just interviewed now , yes, they are knocked off, to put it politely about the situation, we are doing our utmost to deal with that situation because we feel it as well. and when it and just very briefly, when it comes to the debate in the house of commons, i sometimes think we're damned if and damned if we don't. if we do and damned if we don't. if we all sort of talk like sheep, like new labour, and say how wonderful you're how wonderful it is, you're going don't we let going to say, why don't we let people actually have people who actually have a different opinion, who think for themselves? and when you've got people try to people who robustly try to challenge , uh, government challenge, uh, government legislation because they want this to work , you know, that this to work, you know, that thatis this to work, you know, that that is part of the part and parcel of what a good democracy should be doing. and actually, arguably it's the labour party that should be doing that. but they are not a very good

opposition as well as being not a very good government in waiting. i'm afraid. and so it's us that's to test this us that's having to test this legislation. speak in legislation. so i would speak in defence of some of my colleagues . robert jenrick think, . robert jenrick spoke, i think, very and frankly, i very eloquently and frankly, i hope he's wrong. rob spoke hope he's wrong. uh, rob spoke very eloquently, as did tom hunt and a lot of other really good members parliament who are members of parliament who are passionate about this because they know their constituents, passionate , and matters passionate, and it matters to them. >> okay . all right, bob, good to >> okay. all right, bob, good to see seely there. uh, see you. bob seely there. uh, the who very fortunately for the mp who very fortunately for him to live the isle of him gets to live on the isle of wight. joining us now is the mp similarly nice place . very nice similarly nice place. very nice part of town. uh bournemouth east tobias ellwood good morning. uh, tobias, i don't know whether you saw our little package there . uh, of sophie package there. uh, of sophie reapen package there. uh, of sophie reaper. how many of the members of just don't trust of the public just don't trust this tackle this government to tackle migration efficiently? and somehow you have to win back that trust. do you think tonight, did any thing to convince the public you've got this matter in hand ? this matter in hand? >> yeah. i mean, you just talking about the, uh , huge

talking about the, uh, huge challenge that we face, not just in this country, but right across the continent of the scale of migration that we have to deal with. the two takeaways i had from the votes of the last couple of days was, firstly, is that country that that we are a country that abides by international law. that was really pushed through. we can't go to the red sea and demand other countries. uh, the houthis or otherwise non—state actors to abide by international law. if we then breach it here in the uk. so that's really clear. we craft international law, we uphold it. we defend it, we amend it if it's required . we amend it if it's required. and the second takeaway, i think is just touching on there is just the sad but selfish and dangerous game. the right of our party is now playing at a time the election is approaching . we the election is approaching. we should be showing discipline and not hogging the headlines for the wrong reasons. disunity does not go down well at the ballot box . but on the issue of box. but on the issue of migration itself, the scale of this challenge, uh, is, is unprecedented . but this part of

unprecedented. but this part of the jigsaw will only be, i think, uh, needs to be part of a wider strategy. let's consider the source of where these people are coming from . why are people are coming from. why are people fleeing? um sudan, for example, is there not more we can do to improve governance and security there? rather than allow that country amongst many to then fold and implode? that's it's happening in front of our eyes now, we saw the evacuations, uh, not long ago . we should be doing not long ago. we should be doing more to lean out to support these countries such as somalia , these countries such as somalia, such as iraq , syria and such as libya, iraq, syria and so on like that. this is the way people fleeing from and people are fleeing from and they're not going to stop doing that. they're not going to stop doing that . regardless how many that. uh, regardless of how many flights we send to rwanda . so it flights we send to rwanda. so it needs be part of a wider needs to be part of a wider package. the rwanda deter, package. the rwanda will deter, but ultimately, this all but ultimately, this is all about a wider strategy, including those criminal gangs that we need to work with our european colleagues to, to tackle. >> but tobias, that is where you lose the room of the british public, because if you're talking about going sort out talking about going to sort out the sudan when people

the issues in sudan when people can't down the road can't drive down the road because the potholes aren't fixed country and they fixed in this country and they can't fixed in this country and they cant an fixed in this country and they can't an appointment with can't get an appointment with a gp, they can't get to see anybody a&e before hour anybody in a&e before ten hour wait. why the british wait. that's why the british pubuc wait. that's why the british public are banging their heads against table. because of against the table. because of that rhetoric . that kind of rhetoric. >> well, it's not rhetoric at all. it's a strategy that if you want to deal with migration and the migration , that the cost of migration, that what's costing 6 or £7 million a day in those hotels and so forth, the numbers are going down. you heard the prime minister sunak speak there, but ultimately it's balance as to ultimately it's a balance as to what the government does to tackle these matters. ultimately, is what ultimately, our economy is what we be talking about, we want to be talking about, fixing potholes. got fixing those potholes. we've got them abundance here in them in abundance here in bournemouth. i've even started pothole try and get the pothole watch to try and get the council to spend the money that the government's provided . but the government's provided. but ultimately the people also want migration to be sorted as well. and that requires a wider strategy. rwanda will operate as a deterrent, but as i say , the a deterrent, but as i say, the scale of this, particularly with climate change coming up, which will much africa very

will make much of africa very difficult to or parts of africa very difficult to live in. those people will migrate north. therefore, there needs to be a wider comprehensive plan to deal with this in the long terme. >> i just ask you, the prime >> can i just ask you, the prime minister raised at the press conference was the question was raised tobias, about raised with him, tobias, about what's on in the red sea. what's going on in the red sea. we are we joined america in bombing the houthi rebels. we are we joined america in bombing the houthi rebels . as bombing the houthi rebels. as you're defence you're a former defence minister, um, are we a really significant player here, or are we punching above our weight a bit? and is there a part of you also that are also that worries that we are perhaps going to be drawn into yet another east yet another middle east conflagration , which may not conflagration, which may not have the support in britain, that perhaps the prime minister would, would anticipate that last point is critical in the same way that we're talking about migration in these wider issues, we have to take the british nation with us as to what we're doing in the red sea. >> there consequence to the >> there is a consequence to the cost living in the uk, with cost of living in the uk, with fuel prices going up. if the red sea is not open , and if nations

sea is not open, and if nations like us don't step forward, our economy is then affected and indeed our gdp half of it is affected by international headwinds . we tend to forget headwinds. we tend to forget that the symbiotic relationship there is between our economy and our security is pretty clear to see because of ukraine and the grain prices and so forth. and now in the red sea as well, we need step forward, we've need to step forward, as we've done united states and done with the united states and others. taken others. we've actually taken a step back over the last five, uh, 5 10 years or so to uh, 5 or 10 years or so to actually under, uh, underscore the importance of international security and our competitors and authoritarian states have taken advantage of our weakness and our timidity. we're now starting to i think , uh, flex our muscles to i think, uh, flex our muscles a bit more to stand up for what we believe in. that's so important if we want to defend our economy . our economy. >> okay. thank you. tobias lovely to see you. >> tobias ellwood, mp for bournemouth east. well, let's talk who talk to christopher hope who is at conference this at the press conference this morning. editor morning. our political editor chris. in was very chris. he was in he was very ebullient wasn't he. we've seen him in some press conferences where the techier side of the

prime minister's nature is on show. clearly got a spring show. he's clearly got a spring in his step because that was a comfortable victory. last night, after arm wrestling . after two days of arm wrestling. >> yeah. that's right. i mean, all elected mps like to have a go at the house of lords . go at the house of lords. >> and of course, he challenged house of lords, saying it's an urgent national priority now that this rwanda that peers passed this rwanda bill unscathed . bill unscathed. >> and that's not going to happen. let's be honest about it. they're going to try and amend it, water down. you've amend it, water it down. you've heard carlile, other peers amend it, water it down. you've hear

from, our , our brilliant from, um, our, our brilliant listeners and viewers . um, the listeners and viewers. um, the question came in from philip . question came in from philip. um, from, from, from, from , from um, from, from, from, from, from west yorkshire. and philip said, there's more chance of me winning the lottery than one person being sent to rwanda . and person being sent to rwanda. and i don't play the lottery. and that's going to be my question to the prime minister um, if philip's no one believes it's going to happen. he was asked there, wasn't he, by the daily mail? newspaper will mail? andrew your newspaper will a single flight take off this year? will a flight off by year? will a flight take off by the spring? he wouldn't say, because he can't say. he said it's to house of lords it's up to the house of lords now. expect over the next now. so do expect over the next few pressure peers to few weeks, pressure on peers to get right . um, few weeks, pressure on peers to get right. um, indeed get this right. um, and indeed follow the in terms of the government's view and ensure that these this bill passes as it is the concern remains , it is the concern remains, though for many on the right of the party, it won't be enough. it won't be a deterrent. it might be maybe a few hundred maximum thousands maximum, but not the thousands needed to break the business model people smugglers. model of these people smugglers.

>> chris >> okay. thank you chris christopher. hope they're right. still to come this morning. we're going to be talking about vaping. because vaping. um, because a westminster hall debate has been scheduled on by andrew scheduled on this by andrew lever mp. uh, to scrutinise and challenge the issue on vaping. but we're going to have a woman on who's going to try and defend vape ing. so that should be fun . vape ing. so that should be fun. uh, don't go anywhere. you're with newsroom on .

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(flies buzzing) so, here is an older bed. grass is springing back up. a fresh bed, all this grass would be totally mashed down. so, an older bed. we'll look around the area, see what else we find. narrator: 20 miles across kachemak bay at caribou lake, atz sr continues tracking moose, hoping to bring back valuable meat _ for the family _ now take a look at this bed here. see how all the grass, how this grass is still really flat? this is a good sign right here. i take a look right there. i so when this moose got up, |that's the print he laid in. | and that grass is still down there. it hasn't popped up yet, so... so, er, this is a good example of a... ..of a bull thrashing an alder patch, er... | when their velvets starts to come i off, it's itching, it's, er, i driving them crazy and they... - they rub it off. - i've found little bits of velvet i actually hanging on the... i ..hanging on the branches. i suppose you could say, er... you could see he's probably - 8 pretty big bull. - because he ripped off a pretty big branch. i they're—they're—they're trying i to scrape their velvet off i and, er, they might also be just kind of trying to... spar, tangle, tussle, or something. | might be a way for them to let | other bulls know they're around, how big and bad they are. so, er, so we've seen tracks. we've seen a beat up alder bush, so... ..all we need now is to see a moose. my interpretation here would be, obviously there's moose here, there's a group. brown bear. another bed. pretty fresh. we're in the zone. real fresh here. 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over christmas. saw him over christmas. she still his christmas presents i >> -- >> well, it m >> well, it isn't really that extraordinary . i >> well, it isn't really that extraordinary. i think if you if you're from a separated couple extraordinary. i think if you if you're fhad a separated couple extraordinary. i think if you if you're fhad custody rted couple extraordinary. i think if you if you're fhad custody ofd couple extraordinary. i think if you if you're fhad custody of thatiple extraordinary. i think if you if you're fhad custody of that boy and he had custody of that boy for two weeks over christmas , for two weeks over christmas, it's fairly feasible . it's fairly feasible. >> well, that's what i thought. >> well, that's what i thought. >> don't you make. >> don't you make. >> i just make a phone call if it's not necessary or resume if you trust that father be you trust that father to be a good father. >> and she clearly trusted him

sufficiently, do sufficiently, he didn't do anything a heart anything wrong. he had a heart attack. trusted attack. she obviously trusted him. you know, there'll attack. she obviously trusted hinthere'll you know, there'll attack. she obviously trusted hinthere'll be u know, there'll attack. she obviously trusted hinthere'll be couples there'll attack. she obviously trusted hinthere'll be couples the over be there'll be couples all over the talk to the country who don't talk to their child two over their child for two weeks over christmas. if they're divorced , christmas. if they're divorced, separated. think that's. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> kids. if they >> talk to your kids. if they were with their dad. well, that's were with their dad. well, tha it's not really the >> it's not really the arrangement we have. and but i can but but i don't think there's any fault here. like, what i'm saying is i'm not saying think, but i just think sad. >> don and i weren't saying it was fault, but what we're was a fault, but what we're saying can't just it saying is you can't just heap it all on the social services. >> there are many too. i agree, the social services are square >> there are many too. i agree, th> there are many too. i agree, th> where they should have >> yeah. where they should have gone they didn't gone into situations they didn't check um, trying check on kids. um, i'm trying to think little girl many think of that little girl many years ago. >> victoria climbie. >> victoria climbie. >> that way, you know, kids and baby pe kids are getting battered hell and back , and battered to hell and back, and the services don't see the social services don't see the social services don't see the bruises. it's. you the marks and bruises. it's. you can't just all the on can't just keep all the blame on the services because the social services here because for went twice and for once they went twice and knocked doors. even knocked on the doors. even neighbours were were kicking up about it and alerting other people. >> the little boy >> they'd heard the little boy crying daddy .

crying for his daddy. >> well, i think we do have to be we don't know be very careful. we don't know the no um, but the full background. no um, but i think carol and i just i think carol and i were just asking the question. i'm sure pretty many people pretty much many, many people watching listening today watching and listening today will is where was mum? will be asking is where was mum? and i completely understand your point, bev. >> of course, as soon as i heard the story, the children just that and also, know, that and also, you know, you could blame on anyone could put the blame on anyone here nhs did he have treatment for his heart condition that he had wasn't able to because had wasn't able to have because of list? had wasn't able to have because of we list? had wasn't able to have because of we just list? had wasn't able to have because of we just don'tst? had wasn't able to have because of we just don't know. it's just >> we just don't know. it's just very, sad. very, very sad. >> questions. very, very sad. >> we questions. very, very sad. >> we keep questions. very, very sad. >> we keep an estions. very, very sad. >> we keep an eyeyns. very, very sad. >> we keep an eye on people isn't it? that's that's isn't it? that's the that's the thing. your thing. keep an eye on your neighbours. right. katharine birbalsingh incredible woman. i adore her. she is the head of. she did this tv series, britain's strictest head . um, britain's strictest head. um, cath carroll , let me come to britain's strictest head. um, cath carroll, let me come to you on this because it's a fascinating case. she's in the supreme court. what do you make of it? >> you know what i think this woman is incredible. and, i mean, she is the best head in the and she the country, i think. and she runs undoubtedly of the best runs undoubtedly one of the best schools country. what schools in the country. and what she she she banned she has done, she she banned

muslim in the the muslim prayer in the in the playground . um, and she's been playground. um, and she's been taken to court. one of the students is taking her to court and saying that she doesn't feel like this country like she belongs in this country anymore, i think is tosh. anymore, which i think is tosh. but anyway. but know what? but anyway. but you know what? her catherine's her argument catherine's argument it's not argument is that it's not discriminated . she's saying that discriminated. she's saying that what she not what she did is not discriminated. what she's saying is that that that there was is that that that that there was after kids were seen praying after the kids were seen praying in playground and there were in the playground and there were lots of complaints , people lots of complaints, people started to complain that and i suspect it was the local residents were saying this was islamophobia. they lobbing islamophobia. they were lobbing bottles over the wall. really appalling. teacher had appalling. one teacher had a brick through window. brick thrown through a window. teachers fear teachers were literally in fear of their lives. this is what catherine is saying now and what she did to stop that was to stop the praying outside now. and i've talked about this this week and somebody saying, i've talked about this this week and somebody saying , why can't and somebody saying, why can't they have a prayer room inside you know, britain is you know, this britain is a secular and as such , secular state. and as such, state institutions are separate from religious institutions. there's compulsion on her to there's no compulsion on her to have to , to, to allow all

religions. >> and if she created a prayer room for the muslim kids, what about the jewish kids? >> what about what about the kids? kids the christian kids? >> where do we where does this kids? kids the christian kids? >> istatement/e where does this kids? kids the christian kids? >> istatement doesn'te does this end statement doesn't she? >> dawn. it wasn't a discrimination any discrimination against any religion, as catherine religion, right? as catherine says, school. i do not says, it is a school. i do not disagree on a child's religion or their race. they come here to learn no matter what religion or race they are. and that is what she was. concentrate on. and that was what makes her school and her as a headmistress. one of the best in the country. so this even about the this is not even about the religion of islam. it is about all religions. religion of islam. it is about all religions . and obviously the all religions. and obviously the fitual all religions. and obviously the ritual nature of praying , if you ritual nature of praying, if you are a muslim, is much more demanding five times a day, etc. etc. than maybe a christian child or a jewish child. maybe praying once a day. so that was the only issue. why? the islam side of it has been focussed on. >> you could see a situation developing and i think this is what catherine probably saw as well, in in well, that we saw in batley, in yorkshire. remember where there

was discrimination against was the discrimination against that who's that teacher who still who's still by the way? still in hiding, by the way? >> she's had change his >> yes, she's had to change his name, to move with kids. name, had to move with his kids. >> were accusations of >> and there were accusations of islamophobia so i think islamophobia to then. so i think she to all that in she wanted to nip all that in the is why she the bud, which is why she stopped the place. stopped it in the place. >> she says in her >> and she says in her statement, we have jehovah's witness who've witness families who've objected to text. she to macbeth as a gcse text. she said. got christian said. we've got christian families want us to families who don't want us to hold revision sessions on hold gcse revision sessions on sundays. we've got hindu families who've objected to dinner eggs , and dinner plates touching eggs, and she says, i don't she basically says, i don't tolerate any of it. i don't discriminate against any of it. >> it's why she's so brilliant, why she should have been. she was. michael gove big was. michael gove was a big fan of he was education of hers when he was education secretary she'd have been a brilliant education. secretary she'd have been a brilshe: education. secretary she'd have been a brilshe: eduthe on. secretary she'd have been a brilshe: eduthe she the >> she was the she was the social mobility wasn't she? >> 9 y— 9 back and said she >> she stepped back and said she couldn't anything done. couldn't get anything done. >> what like hear, >> that's what i'd like to hear, because i this is about because i think this is about getting think is getting her. i think this is someone get her, someone is out to get her, because just seems very because it just seems very unusual that pupil unusual to me that a pupil would take this to court. >> but were also if, >> but we were saying also if, if, loses does that, then if, if she loses does that, then is then then a compunction on other buildings to create other public buildings to create automatic room.

other public buildings to create aut buttic room. other public buildings to create aut but this room. other public buildings to create aut but this is room. other public buildings to create aut but this is a room. other public buildings to create autbut this is a secular room. other public buildings to create aut but this is a secular state. m. >> but this is a secular state. yes, yes. >> and it's also a muslim country. >> religion and state got to >> religion and state has got to be we're not be separate and we're not a muslim we're not muslim country. we're not a muslim country. we're not a muslim country. we're not a muslim country. now then dawn train are yeah, we've muslim country. now then dawn train stitched yeah, we've muslim country. now then dawn train stitched up. yeah, we've been stitched up. >> trains a lot and i know >> i use trains a lot and i know this this is a stitch up. this is a this is a stitch up. well i mean this is the thing i don't understand are don't understand why people are surprised this. don't understand why people are surjright this. don't understand why people are surjright. this. don't understand why people are surjright . okay.. don't understand why people are surjright . okay. rip off ticket >> right. okay. rip off ticket machines railway stations machines at railway stations have to charge have been found to charge travellers double travellers more than double the cheapest available online cheapest fares available online on of the travel or if you on many of the travel or if you go a ticket office or you go go to a ticket office or you go to office. i mean, it's to a ticket office. i mean, it's not really . the not a surprise really. the mark—ups routinely run at 52. i mean, i mean, if you go and you've tried it, if you are literally panicking, you haven't had time to go online or the ticket office is shut. as is often the case, these days, isn't you go online isn't it? so you go online and go to ticket machine. go on to the ticket machine. it's £200. it's like £200. >> yeah . >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> who can afford to pay that £300 machine charge get to manchester? >> over £300. not in peak time. >> over £300. not in peak time. >> yes. machine. yeah. >> yes. machine. yeah. >> this is why we should have ticket offices, know. well, ticket offices, you know. well, yeah. sunak. >> you remember the train

>> do you remember the train operators tried to close them down and government intervened. >> right intervened. >> it was the right thing to close completely close them. and it's completely not the right thing, because when a ticket office when you go to a ticket office and i to to newcastle and i had to go to newcastle recently i went in there and recently and i went in there and the me the best deal, the staff told me the best deal, the staff told me the best deal, the one price the ticket was up at one price and said, if you do this and they said, if you do this and they said, if you do this and do this and they're proud to, to help you. to, they're proud to help you. >> they are. >> they are. >> stopped only 1 in >> and they've stopped only 1 in 6 have a ticket office 6 stations have a ticket office now that was working staff, which appalling the which is appalling because the elderly well, elderly do not have well, this is what was going to say. >> if it was my dad who was going to buy train ticket, he going to buy a train ticket, he would talk to the person would want to talk to the person you want give him the you want them to give him the fairest if i said my fairest price. if i said to my dad with his little nokia, brick, go on your brick, can you go on your smartphone online? brick, can you go on your sm.yourone online? brick, can you go on your sm.you might online? brick, can you go on your sm.you might also online? brick, can you go on your sm.you might also he online? brick, can you go on your sm.you might also he might? brick, can you go on your sm.you might also he might also >> you might also he might also want cash. want to pay cash. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> use a check you use check. >> i'm very proud my >> i'm very proud of my chequebook. my chequebook. very proud of my chequebook. >> but you're one those >> but you're one of those bouncy ones again. is it bounced? >> what's wrong with chequebooks? so chequebooks? why are people so again? chequebooks? why are people so agawell, you know, ties >> well, you know, and it ties into lot of the issues, into a lot of the issues, doesn't that particular doesn't it? that particular story, like we're story, we feel like we're being pred story, we feel like we're being ripped we being ripped off, but we are being pred

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through the rest of the day. there risk ice as well there is a risk of ice as well as heavy snow across scotland, where amber warning is where that amber warning is still force. we've a still in force. we've got a northerly wind bringing in arctic that arctic air that's bringing that bitterly feel , particularly bitterly cold feel, particularly to areas , where to more northern areas, where we'll snowfall across we'll see heavy snowfall across the highlands and the northern isles the rest the isles through the rest of the day. already quite day. there's already been quite a centimetres of snow and so a few centimetres of snow and so travelling will be very difficult through the afternoon here. there's also a risk ice here. there's also a risk of ice for many areas of northern ireland, as western ireland, as well as western scotland inland areas scotland, but inland areas elsewhere should stay very dry, with plenty of sunshine and highs around 2 or 3 degrees. so still a very chilly feel and it's going to be another cold night. clear skies for the bulk of the uk. it will be cloudier with heavy snow still continuing across many northern areas of scotland, but the snow will start to come in to parts of the highlands northwest highlands and from the northwest overnight , highlands and from the northwest overnight, bringing highlands and from the northwest overnight , bringing respite overnight, bringing some respite to far north. so to the far north. so temperatures in the far south dipping down as low as minus nine degrees, not quite as low across northern scotland, with that thicker cloud and through

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gb news. away. >> good afternoon britain. >> good afternoon britain. >> it's 12:00 on thursday. the 18th of january. dodi to block this bill. >> that's the plea of the prime minister this morning as he urges members of the house of lords not to frustrate the passage rwanda bill and passage of the rwanda bill and the will of the democratic house. but will they listen ? house. but will they listen? >> royal shock as the princess of wales spends her third day in hospital and the king prepares for his first, who will step in to cover the top royals as they step back from their duties as tragedy . tragedy. >> in skegness, two year old toddler bronson battersby was two inches too short to reach for food as he was left starving in his dad's house over christmas . in his dad's house over christmas. his mum has revealed questions are being asked of the social services and the police. but should the mother have checked on her to? son

>> well, last night a bit of an anti—climax. >> in the end, the rwanda bill passed. >> the rebellion seemed to simmer a dramatic moment, though i was there in parliament last night and was talking to a lot of people , some of those who of people, some of those who organised the rebellion , some of organised the rebellion, some of those who actually changed their minds during the course of those last 24 hours. >> and it does seem that even those who organised the rebellion admit that this bill,