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as they to cover the top royals as they step back from their duties as tragedy . tragedy. >> in skegness, two year old toddler bronson battersby was two inches too short to reach for food as he was left starving in his dad's house over christmas . in his dad's house over christmas. his mum has revealed questions are being asked of the social services and the police. but should the mother have checked on her to.7 son >> well, last night a bit of an anti—climax. >> in the end, the rwanda bill passed. >> the rebellion seemed to simmer a dramatic moment, though i was there in parliament last night and was talking to a lot of people , some of those who of people, some of those who organised the rebellion , some of organised the rebellion, some of those who actually changed their minds during the course of those last 24 hours. >> and it does seem that even those who organised the rebellion admit that this bill,
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if it becomes law, will allow at least some planes to get off to rwanda . the question is that the rwanda. the question is that the degree to which those planes will be full, and how many flights it will allow, there's not much point. >> if there's one flight with two people on it, is there? >> no, no. and that's the argument of the rebels. yeah, but rebels do. but the rebels do. >> know, i can't help but be >> you know, i can't help but be slightly annoyed. >> not frustrated and enraged >> if not frustrated and enraged by it all. what's the point of creating so much debate over these amendments, talking about how you're going to rebel on this piece of legislation, then to just back down at the final hour when it actually matters ? hour when it actually matters? crucially, i can understand to an extent loyalty to the party wanting to get the bill passed . wanting to get the bill passed. you know, it's better than nothing , presumably, but you know, it's better than nothing, presumably, but but there six. there is six. >> there is six behind the mps , >> there is six behind the mps, and at most they got 60 rebels. so i think the maths was just staring them at the face. but also the government did offer them, to some extent, a bit of an some detail with
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an off ramp, some detail with regard to how they will ignore the echr ruling, how regard to how they will ignore the echr ruling , how they will the echr ruling, how they will ignore those last minute pyjama injunctions that the echr has slapped on this country before . slapped on this country before. specific advice in written form for the civil service that came out just before the vote. i do think that tipped some people over the line. well, how do you feel home after last night's feel at home after last night's vote ? vote? >> what do make of it all? >> what do you make of it all? vaiews@gbnews.com. but let's get with sophia . get your headlines with sophia. >> thanks, emily. good afternoon . it's 12:02. i'm sophia wenzler . it's12:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill, designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers . the removal of asylum seekers. the third reading passed the commons unamended last night, with a majority of 44. dozens of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it.
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rishi sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely unhed shows his party is completely united and says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority . urgent national priority. >> there is now only one question will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people, as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing ? on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that. on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that . we have it's as simple as that. we have a plan and the plan is working . a plan and the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down, not just down by a bit , down by a third, went down, not just down by a bit, down by a third, compared to crossings in the year before . to crossings in the year before. >> prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats . it channel yesterday in eight small boats. it means channel yesterday in eight small boats . it means 621 people have boats. it means 621 people have arrived in the uk, so far this yean arrived in the uk, so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, tens of thousands of public sector
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workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history. schools have closed , public transport is closed, public transport is limited and hospitals are offering only christmas day level services as teachers try transport and healthcare. workers walk off the job, their demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretary intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused , heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one. some of those on the picket line explained why they're striking because there has been underfunding and lack of pay over many years. >> we've had a haemorrhage of skilled workers throughout the pubuc skilled workers throughout the public services, so this is a pay public services, so this is a pay dispute on the face of it, but also its protection of the resources of public services . resources of public services. >> well, the teaching profession has received no pay uplift for the last three years. while we've watched successive pay increases being made to colleagues across every other jurisdiction in these islands, the teaching profession cannot
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be treated in northern ireland as second class citizens to everywhere else on these islands i >> -- >> the princess of wales is said to be doing well as she recovers after abdominal surgery . after abdominal surgery. princess katherine's planned procedure on tuesday was deemed a success, but as expected, she'll stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile king charles will be treated for a benign, enlarged prostate next week. the 75 year old monarch says he's keen to go public with his condition to encourage other men to get checked out . the us men to get checked out. the us has carried out another round of strikes on iranian backed houthi targets in yemen. 14 sites were hit with the military saying they posed an imminent threat to navy ships in the red sea region . it's after rebels struck an american owned vessel passing through the gulf of aden yesterday. it's the fourth set of us strikes in under a week with washington also resisting the houthis as terrorists . uk the houthis as terrorists. uk forces were not involved in the latest action. a prosecutor who was investigating an attack on a
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tv studio in ecuador has been killed . last week, masked men killed. last week, masked men burst into a tv station and threatened staff at gunpoint dunng threatened staff at gunpoint during a live broadcast. cesar suarez was shot dead while travelling to a court hearing. it's unclear whether the attack is linked to his investigation , is linked to his investigation, but police say it looks like he was targeted . train tickets cost was targeted. train tickets cost more at station machines, with a consumer group finding passengers are paying twice as much as those who go online, which says same day tickets were particularly high and the best value fares were either unavailable or hidden among opfions unavailable or hidden among options on many machines . the options on many machines. the study found a journey from northampton to cardiff cost . northampton to cardiff cost. £107 from a machine, but was £43 onune £107 from a machine, but was £43 online on plans to close hundreds of rail ticket offices in england were scrapped in november after public uproar and the snow and ice warnings remain in place across parts of the uk, with the cold snap expected to continue into the weekend . the continue into the weekend. the met has issued an amber met office has issued an amber
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alert scotland, alert in northern scotland, saying power cuts travel saying power cuts and travel disruption are possible . some disruption are possible. some areas see an extra 15 areas could also see an extra 15 to 20cm of snow. much of the uk saw temperatures fall below freezing overnight, with some regions dropping to as low as —11. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to tom and . emily. now it's back to tom and. emily. >> good afternoon britain . it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:07. now. the prime minister has urged peers in the house of lords to do the right thing and back his rwanda legislation as he prepares for a showdown in the upper house following his victory in the commons last night . night. >> but you're going to say prayers. well, he probably is, uh, is making a few prayers. he's already been warned that his flagship policy will face stern peers . and stern opposition from peers. and speaking at press conference speaking at a press conference in today, in downing street earlier today, he it is now time for the
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he said it is now time for the lords to pass this bill. this is an urgent national priority. the treaty with rwanda is signed and the legislation , which deems the legislation, which deems rwanda a safe country , has been rwanda a safe country, has been passed unamended in our elected chamber . chamber. >> well, let's get more on this now with gb news political correspondent katherine forster and catherine at the end of it all, last night the government won with a reasonably comfortable majority . i suppose comfortable majority. i suppose the degree of majority does matter in terms of the amount of authority this bill has, as it goes from the lower house to the upper. goes from the lower house to the upper . house upper. house >> yes, they won with a majority of 44. so very comfortable. in the end , only about 11 the end, only about 11 conservative mps actively voting against the government, with another 20 abstaining. so after all the sound and fury the rebellion ultimately came to nothing. rishi sunak giving the press conference, sending a very clear message to the house of
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lords, basically saying this is on you now and you need to get this through saying, um, it's they need to do the right thing and not frustrate the will of the people saying that clearly , the people saying that clearly, the people saying that clearly, the majority of the public want the majority of the public want the government to get on and tackle this. so there is going to be, though, let's face it, an almighty battle in the house of lords as well. they've had enough trouble in the house of commons where they've got a big majority in the house of lords. the government does not have a majority. there's plenty of peers really like peers that would really like to kill now that is not kill this bill. now that is not going to happen . kill this bill. now that is not going to happen. um, and you know , okay, the convention rules know, okay, the convention rules are that the house of lords , um, are that the house of lords, um, won't block bills that the commons have passed. but of course, this stopping the boats was not a manifesto commitment. so i think plenty of them will feel that they can meddle. but ultimately labour have a sort of unspoken protocol that they
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won't block. bill those that have been passed in the commons. so i expect it will go through after a lot of back and forth, potentially the government hoping it will get through by the end of march. it's taking quite a long time, isn't it? given this was emergency legislation , hoping still to get legislation, hoping still to get flights off in the spring. but of course , in the press of course, in the press conference that we saw in the last hour or so, the prime minister being pressed repeat early on when or if these flights will go , and him saying flights will go, and him saying that he hopes they will go as soon as possible. well, millions of people hope they'll go as soon as possible, but no guarantees at all. and of course he can't, because what we still don't ultimately know is if they will will take off. and while he's saying that the conservative party is united behind the desire to stop the boats , that's not in question. boats, that's not in question. the question is, will this plan work? because dozens of
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conservative mps clearly feel that it won't . and the that it won't. and the government itself was given advice weeks ago, saying it had advice weeks ago, saying it had a 5050 chance at best. and even if it does happen , what will the if it does happen, what will the numbers be? because bear in mind, the original plan when it was announced under boris johnson by several home secretaries back priti patel , secretaries back priti patel, the plan was if you come to britain illegally , you will be britain illegally, you will be sent on a one way ticket to rwanda. you will not be coming back. that's it. you will be stuck in rwanda and the idea was that who in their right mind would cross from france if they were ultimately just going to be sent to rwanda? but now it's sounding like if it happens, the numbers are going to be quite low. there will be grounds for appeal. rishi sunak has said very clearly that although they are not writing in to the bill, this ability to, um, ignore these section 39 orders from the european courts , as he has european courts, as he has indicated that if that's what he
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takes , he said circumstances in takes, he said circumstances in which i'd ignore rule 39, that he will ignore it if it comes to it. but let's see. but you know, the government has made so much noise about this plan, so much noise about this plan, so much noise about this plan, so much noise about rwanda . and, you noise about rwanda. and, you know, almost two years on in the embarrassing situation of rwanda offering the government its money back, if it can't make it work , this is one of the work, this is one of the frustrating things, is that you had dozens of, well, a number of prominent conservative mps telling the media, telling the pubuc telling the media, telling the public that this bill won't work, and then they fall on their sword and vote with it anyway . anyway. >> and the public just want to know, is this policy going to work? and if it is, can it be passed and then put into action as quickly as possible? should be simple. never simple. house of lords will members of the house of lords bring back some of these amendments that the house of commons voted on? >> well ,
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house of commons voted on? >> well, we'll have to wait and see. but the overall picture is one of disunity, isn't it? and a plan mired in problems. and the thing is to have the public have large sections of the public just stopped listening because there's this really damning yougov poll out today, which gives labour . a whopping 27% gives labour. a whopping 27% lead. this is a lead that they haven't had over the conservatives since the darkest days of the chaos under liz truss. and interestingly to reform and now polling on 12% now they've been creeping up very, very steadily . they're now very, very steadily. they're now in third place. um, with the lib dems below them. and obviously the greens, they feel that they've got the momentum. they feel that millions of people have just given up on the conservatives that they've heard this. we're going stop the this. we're going to stop the boats on and on and on. boats going on and on and on. the numbers down, but not the numbers are down, but not enough they that they've enough. they feel that they've got in their sails and got the wind in their sails and they massive damage to
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they can do massive damage to they can do massive damage to the conservatives at the next election. so rishi sunak, for all his talk trying to get on the front foot, trying to present a united front, it's not only the problems that the bill is going to have in the house of lords, it's the divisions within his own party. it's the courts going forward and frankly, it's the public's attitude of that. after 13 years of conservatives in government, rishi sunak saying we have a plan, stick with the plan. um, saying labour have no plan and labour would ditch the rwanda plan even if they get in. but so many of the public, i think , have have just public, i think, have have just switched off. um it's almost like the prime minister is trying to sort of reignite those battles that were had in the brexit years. >> will of the people, all of those sorts of phrases. but it doesn't feel like it has the same , uh, hook, the same latch same, uh, hook, the same latch that those fiery, fiery debates did. katherine forster, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest there from
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westminster. >> yes. so we can now speak with gb news reporter lisa hartle, who in dover . lisa, gb news reporter lisa hartle, who in dover. lisa, thank you who is in dover. lisa, thank you very much for joining who is in dover. lisa, thank you very much forjoining us. what's who is in dover. lisa, thank you veryviewzh forjoining us. what's who is in dover. lisa, thank you veryviewzh 1dover|ing us. what's who is in dover. lisa, thank you veryviewzh 1dover ?|g us. what's the view in dover? >> everything's all right. >> everything's all right. >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. >> well, i've been asking people down here two things. one, uh , down here two things. one, uh, down here two things. one, uh, do you have faith in the government ? uh, rwanda plan to government? uh, rwanda plan to help tackle the crisis with people, uh, taking that treacherous journey across the channel and all but one of them mostly laughed and then said, no. and there's just one lady who said yes. she does have faith in the government and does have faith that plan , have faith in that plan, although she said she thinks it has to be a large number of people that are taken over to rwanda, there's a lot of empathy for people who are crossing the channel and, uh, most people i've spoken to have said that they want they want to see. those people helped, though when i they would go i asked them how they would go about tackling themselves , about tackling this themselves, they said, is just they they said, this is just they just it's something that just said it's something that they no how they'd they have no idea how they'd even begin tackling it. some people have said that it's over
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in france , that people should be in france, that people should be helped before they have to make that journey across. uh, and another person said that, um , another person said that, um, legal and safe ways need to be made available to people so that they don't have to start taking that life threatening journey across the channel in the first place. >> thank you very much. the view from dover. there uh, but let's get more on this now with the conservative mp for lichfield, sir michael fabricant . now, conservative mp for lichfield, sir michael fabricant. now, sir michael, you voted with the government last night . why? well government last night. why? well i voted against the government when it came to the amendments. >> but on third reading, yes, i did vote with the government because i want to see this legislation on the statute books and the alternative, sir michael, even if it won't work. well, we don't know, do we? look, there's been a lot. >> why did you vote it on the amendments then? >> i wanted to strengthen it even look some even still further. look some lawyers are saying it won't work. there are other lawyers ,
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work. there are other lawyers, including a former supreme court judge, who says yes, it will work . but look, it's not an work. but look, it's not an exact science. the law. it's like a economics. you know, you get two economists and they'll come up with different predictions and the same . predictions and the same. >> the problem is, michael, the problem is, michael, that we've got eggs this got all our eggs in this one rwanda basket. got all our eggs in this one rw¢|fja basket. got all our eggs in this one rw¢ if there .ket. got all our eggs in this one rw¢ if there were many other >> if there were many other plans, if there were many other plans, if there were many other plans, fantastic . but there plans, then fantastic. but there isn't. we've got rwanda and we don't going to don't even know if it's going to work . work. >> well, it's not just rwanda because we done other because we have done other deals. into deals. we're getting into minutia now, but like for example, by 94% example, we've reduced by 94% the number of albanians coming across to the uk and there was a real flood of them in the past few years because we've done a deal with albania and we're similarly trying to do deals with people don't with other people which don't need it does need need legislation. it does need legislation with rwanda, but you are right. think the are right. i think the perception is that it's rwanda and only rwanda. we've already seen, as you know , and people seen, as you know, and people keep telling you this, that the
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amount of immigration has fallen by a third, whereas in germany and france, immigration is still going up. but look, i voted for it at the end of the day because i just thought, you know, we need to get something on the statute books. and i'm prepared to look, let's see whether to see, look, let's see whether it works. i mean, at the end of the day, you're quite right in your analysis that people aren't listening anymore. what listening to us anymore. what they want see. and i've said they want to see. and i've said this rishi sunak and frankly, this to rishi sunak and frankly, he . but what we want to he agrees. but what we want to see is delivered , and we see is delivered, and we certainly wouldn't have seen any delivery rwanda is delivery as far as rwanda is concerned , if the thing was concerned, if the thing was rejected last night. and now we've got to make sure that the house goes with as house of lords goes with it as catherine was saying earlier on. >> well, michael, i suppose the problem here is that delivery is no really your hands. no longer really in your hands. as a member of parliament, it's now in the upper house where your party only holds one third of the seats, two thirds of the seats are cross benches. labour, lib dem peers, even bishops of the church of england. these
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people will no doubt want to frustrate the bill, but they can't block it entirely. but they could delay it and delay it considerably until perhaps the next election . what's your next election. what's your message for the house of lords ? message for the house of lords? >> well, my message to the house of lords is if you want to stay unelected and in the house of lords, and enjoying rather a pleasant club, you've got to accept that the house of commons and they do accept this, actually, that the house of commons is supreme because we are the elected representative . are the elected representative. and if they defy the will of the house of commons. look, i know that many mps, conservative mps are saying, oh, we're a united party. and one thing we are unhed party. and one thing we are united and that is we want to stop the boats. and that's something that the labour party is very divided about. most of the labour backbenchers are saying in speeches it doesn't get much publicity because they're opposition. they're saying they do want the boats to come over, they to see more come over, they want to see more immigration. and we're united in
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saying we don't want the immigration and the house of lords has to take that into account. now. there'll be a bit of what us parliament and commentators call ping pong, where it goes backwards and forwards between the house of commons and the house of lords. but at the end of the day, it has to passed. but tom, has to be passed. but tom, you're dead right. you're absolutely dead right. we're racing against the clock here. we're going to have a general election by law no later than january of next year. general election by law no later than january of next year . you than january of next year. you want my guess? i reckon it'll be round about october. november of this year. so we bloody well got to get it moving fast. and the lords , if they try and do lords, if they try and do delaying tactic x then they are actually interfering with the democracy of this country . and democracy of this country. and they know that the reality is people up and down this country . people up and down this country. >> yes, there are people who have a liberal view towards immigration. yes, there are people who want open borders, but majority country but the majority of the country feel utterly power . this feel utterly power. this watching after boat after watching boat after boat after boat, cross the channel, watching the government allow
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hundreds of thousands in legal migration . people feel migration. people feel powerless. it's a dangerous place democracy . yeah short place for democracy. yeah short answer to that. >> i agree with your assessment and that's why, as i say, we've got to deliver. and it's not just stopping the boats. as i say, it's other measures too, including cutting down on the number of legal immigrants we have in this country. now, look, we do need a larger labour force . so i'm not against all immigration. ian. i actually am very well aware that at great universities like the university of birmingham, for example , and of birmingham, for example, and keele and staffordshire and whatever , they're quite whatever, they're quite dependent in some respects on foreign students . but do we have foreign students. but do we have to bring along all their relatives? no, we don't , and relatives? no, we don't, and that's why we're changing the law there too. we have to cut down on immigration simply because if we have too much, then all our services like gp's and all the rest of it are, and hospitals are all going to be overstretched .
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overstretched. >> well, so, michael, i'm afraid thatis >> well, so, michael, i'm afraid that is all we have time for this afternoon. but thank you very much for talking through those big, big issues and big votes last night in parliament. could chat all day to sir michael fabricant , couldn't we? michael fabricant, couldn't we? >> but after the break we will be live in belfast because a whopping 170,000 public sector workers are taking to the picket line in protest at the freezing of their pay increases in the freezing weather. now this is good afternoon britain
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>> it's 1226 in the afternoon now around 170,000 public sector workers in northern ireland have taken to the picket line in protest at the freezing of pay increases . that's due to the increases. that's due to the continued breakdown of the region's power sharing government . government. >> this comes against >> well, this comes against a backdrop strong political backdrop of strong political uncertainty in northern ireland as the deadline for restoring power sharing in the region looms large. and if an agreement cannot be reached today , say the cannot be reached today, say the northern ireland secretary is legally bound to call for a fresh election unless the commons sets the northern ireland budget itself and returns to direct rule. those are the two options well , let's are the two options well, let's go to belfast and speak to gb news. >> northern ireland reporter dougie beattie dougie, this is reporter well billed as the
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biggest strike in northern ireland history. >> well, it probably is. it's maybe close to the trouble . you maybe close to the trouble. you see strikes that were back in the 70s. but it has had a massive effect in northern ireland today. uh, hospitals are only operating christmas day services . schools are closed , services. schools are closed, uh, tax offices, everything else has, has ground to a halt. and thatis has, has ground to a halt. and that is because there is no government in northern ireland. well, you would think because of course party with public sector wages here, you know, the whole pubuc wages here, you know, the whole public sector didn't crash in the last two years when it's been, uh, in or out of direct rule, as you could say, uh, that has happened over a huge period of time, even even when stormont was up and running. and that comes to down how stormont is actually funded . and, uh, back actually funded. and, uh, back in 2010, mark dreyfus , uh, in 2010, mark dreyfus, uh, pointed that they needed more than barnett consequentials. and the whole thrym formula was put in place. that isn't in place in
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northern ireland. so for every £100 that's spent in england, there's £100 spent in wales , there's £100 spent in wales, £100 spent in scotland . that's £100 spent in scotland. that's under barnett consequentials now wields receives about 115. scotland about 129. but it comes with a caveat. you cannot go back to treasury and ask for money. politicians have to take responsibility for what policies they set and of course , northern they set and of course, northern ireland has this extreme , ireland has this extreme, difficult government where you have, uh, an executive and it is a elected by each community and, and divvied up around the table . and divvied up around the table. so as there is cross—community , so as there is cross—community, um, governments or governments in place. but of course, if they don't agree a budget for three years or a programme for government for three years, then there's very little funding that they can do . that been they can do. and that has been happening continually over the whole the last 25 years of whole time. the last 25 years of government in northern ireland. so as a result of that , public so as a result of that, public sector workers are trailing
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behind the rest of the uk in how they are paid. and with the cost of living crisis so high, it is really affecting them in their pockets. and surprisingly for me , these unions are saying to me, yes, they want to see stormont back, but they really want to see it back with a plan and a fiscal floor that their political representatives are made and held responsible for the decisions they make . and the decisions they make. and thatis the decisions they make. and that is really , really what that is really, really what chris heaton has to heaton—harris has to look at the secretary of state but he has said in the talks before christmas he understands northern ireland's underfunded. but he also has said that the money is there and they're not getting it unless stormont is back. so now the unions that are in protest behind me here are looking for that to be detached from that deal, because the money is there and it's chris heaton—harris that they're really putting pressure on. and really putting pressure on. and really the anger here is going towards . towards. >> the cash .
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>> the cash. >> the cash. >> but of course, the government doesn't want to just give this cash for nothing in return. they want to show the cost of communities not working together. the fact that this executive hasn't been up and running and there haven't been able to be these pay rises and i'm given to understand the nhs in northern ireland has the longest waiting lists proportionately of any constituent part of the united kingdom. this is really the cost of political failure in northern ireland. >> well, it's political failure over many, many years because northern ireland has 16 hospitals and the longest waiting lists in the uk. if you take the likes of liverpool, it has a lot less and very much shorter waiting lists. and that's because , hi, northern that's because, hi, northern ireland's assembly is elected under pr each . i mean on those under pr each. i mean on those benches, some of them may have gained their seats by as little as 70 votes. so when it comes to making cuts, they are looking at their position electorally rather than by financial plea.
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and they won't make cuts. so therefore we still have this huge health service and it is very fragmented out around northern ireland. instead of having cancer centres, heart centres, etc. and they don't because there's only 1.8 million of us in northern ireland. and surely the politicians should have that back in place. but chris heaton—harris at this point would need to step up or call an election or extend that legislation by midnight tonight. >> well, that deadline looms dougie beattie. thank you so much for bringing us up to date on a on a frenetic scene. there in belfast. >> yes. well coming up as the princess of wales spends her third day in hospital and the king prepares for his first, who will step in to cover for the top royals as they step back from their duties. that's after your headlines with sophia . your headlines with sophia. thanks emily. >> it's 1232. thanks emily. >> it's1232. i'm sophia wenzler
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in the gb newsroom. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill, designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers . the removal of asylum seekers. the third reading passed the commons unamended last night, with a majority of dozens of tories majority of 44. dozens of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it. rishi sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely unhed shows his party is completely united and says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority . he and urgent national priority. he and the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats . it channel yesterday in eight small boats. it means channel yesterday in eight small boats . it means 621 people have boats. it means 621 people have arrived in the uk so far this yean arrived in the uk so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history. schools have closed , public transport is closed, public transport is limited and hospitals are offering only christmas day
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news is. >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:38 and you've been getting in touch with all of your different views on the stories we've been covering so far. uh stephen has a blunt assessment of the conservative party. he says , hi, conservative party. he says, hi, the spineless tories are finished. united party country is lost. >> yes , stephen, you're not the >> yes, stephen, you're not the only one who's written into us to that effect. uh, clive says tom and emily, i am sick and tired of all the negativity around the rwanda bill. unless we try it, we will never know whether it works or not. give it a before pulling it to a chance before pulling it to pieces . i sincerely hope that pieces. i sincerely hope that the of does the house of lords does the right the electorate. the house of lords does the right i the electorate. the house of lords does the right i understand electorate. the house of lords does the right i understand that orate. the house of lords does the right i understand that view, now, i understand that view, clive, to an i would clive, and to an extent i would agree i think tom agree with you. i think tom would the would as well. but also the point is that conservative mps themselves have torn this bill apart. they've said it's not tough enough. well and on the other side and on the other side , well, when it comes down to it, but how many people were briefing saying saying briefing the media saying saying how mps
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how many conservative mps were briefing media, saying this briefing the media, saying this bill won't work its current bill won't work in its current form? yet they form? we know, and yet they vote it we that 60 conservative >> we know that 60 conservative mps would like to have mps would like the bill to have been but only 11 been even tougher, but only 11 when down to it, says when it comes down to it, says that the bill wouldn't actually work. they think it . most work. they think it. most conservative mps think the bill will work. but the question is how many people will be those how many people will be on those flights go ? that's my flights that go? that's my understanding distinction understanding of the distinction , yes, but i don't see that as a proper distinction. >> suella braverman and >> ian and suella braverman and robert the robert jenrick, they were the ones who didn't vote for this bill. they stood by their guns and they've in the home and they've been in the home office, so they know what they're about. well, they're talking about. well, there unless you there are plenty. unless you just think there just unless people think there are extreme in priti patel , the are extreme in priti patel, the former secretary, voted for former home secretary, voted for this bill. >> um, and she, of course was, was secretary for longer was home secretary for longer than braverman was. than suella braverman was. >> was very disappointed with >> i was very disappointed with what said last what lee anderson said last night , uh, what lee anderson said last night, uh, suggesting that what lee anderson said last night , uh, suggesting that the night, uh, suggesting that the labour party were laughing at him. so he decided to abstain from vote . but there you go. from the vote. but there you go. >> i think i understand his position, because if
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position, though, because if you're a conservative mp, you have, uh, told your constituents you want to stop the boats. do you want to stop the boats. do you want to walk through the division lobby with sir keir starmer and with jeremy corbyn and with all the zara sultanas of this world? do you think being in the same division lobby as them is something that is going to send the signal that you want to stop the boat, continuously bash the bill, then and threaten to vote against that? >> i think, and then to wimp out at the final moment. i think that's overstating his position, because saying because what he was saying constantly like bill. constantly was we like the bill. >> want to help the prime >> we want to help the prime minister. to it minister. we want to make it tougher. i don't think lee anderson ever said this. bill is a a total train it's a is a total train wreck. it's a good bill, it could be good bill, but it could be better. i think that was the position. but why not just just stick minister stick with the prime minister from go? from the get go? >> what i don't get . >> that's what i don't get. that's what i don't get. but let us what you think. gb views us know what you think. gb views at gb news. com perhaps i'm being glynis. at gb news. com perhaps i'm beiihello, glynis. at gb news. com perhaps i'm beiihello, glynis glynis. at gb news. com perhaps i'm beiihello, glynis has glynis. at gb news. com perhaps i'm beiihello, glynis has written. at gb news. com perhaps i'm beiihello, glynis has written in >> hello, glynis has written in to completely underwhelmed to say completely underwhelmed by party after by the conservative party after the yesterday. how much by the conservative party after the this yesterday. how much
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by the conservative party after the this circuserday. how much by the conservative party after the this circus cost how much by the conservative party after the this circus cost then much by the conservative party after the this circus cost the british did this circus cost the british taxpayers bring on the reform party. it's our only solution and hope. well that's what glynis thinks. although, according to the latest polling, even though it's up at 12, the highest, it's ever been, that doesn't translate to any seats in first past the post. >> yes. and um, of course, a vote for reform in some areas of the country may well boost the labour party's chances . if that labour party's chances. if that doesn't concern you, then fine. mike says. so. the lords are threatening to frustrate the rwanda to the end of the rwanda bill to the end of the yeah rwanda bill to the end of the year. it's scrap this year. it's time to scrap this outdated it's the outdated system. it's the biggest home in country biggest care home in the country . free. they turn up when they want they have want to. they have their subsidised then subsidised food and drink. then go into the house to have their afternoon well afternoon noon nap. well anything to disagree with? they're nothing to disagree with there at all. >> just finally we've been told to but i want to read to move on. but i want to read this one out. russell has said, hi smiley, lovely emily. i want every eu an uncontrolled every pro eu an uncontrolled immigration tory mp as well as labour mp and lib dem mp thrown out of their cushy high paid seat in parliament. so that
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started as a quite a lovely opening and then go i want them thrown out. but no, it's a nice message for you. >> it seems like russell prefers prefers me to these, uh, these mps who he considers a bit of a waste of space. s o mps who he considers a bit of a waste of space. s 0 that i would say. well, thank you. >> sounds like russell would like you to stand. >> thank you for calling me smiley and lovely. maybe will, smiley and lovely. maybe i will, maybe smiley and lovely. maybe i will, ma'you heard here first. a gb >> you heard it here first. a gb news exclusive . news exclusive. >> do a worse job anyway >> i can't do a worse job anyway , turn to royals now. , let's turn to the royals now. >> they were with >> after they were hit with a double health scare yesterday with the princess in with the princess of wales in hospital following treatment for abdominal . whilst the abdominal surgery. whilst the king is set to face treatment for an enlarged prostate . for an enlarged prostate. >> yes. so catherine is expected to stay in hospital for 10 to 14 days. that's what the statement said. and she'll be away from official duties for up to three months whilst the kings engage agents will also be postponed for a short period of recuperation , and this two week recuperation, and this two week penod recuperation, and this two week period is a very significant point because lots of surgeries
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can be done in where you're out the next day. >> keyhole surgeries and the like. we were talking to doctor gerlis yesterday about this very subject. the fact that this is a two week potential stay in hospital shows that this is probably a very serious procedure indeed . procedure indeed. >> yes, and it was very interesting. lots of people have remarked upon the fact that the king has told us about his enlarged prostate, that is something that past monarchs probably wouldn't have told us about. but he wanted to, apparently to raise awareness so that more men get their checks. >> absolutely . and the move, of >> absolutely. and the move, of course , serves as a useful course, serves as a useful reminder for men across the country to carry out those health checks. >> so shall we speak with a pharmacist, darren govind , thank pharmacist, darren govind, thank you very much for joining us. pharmacist, darren govind, thank you very much forjoining us. so how bad are men at getting these checks ? um, i know from my own checks? um, i know from my own family my experience with the men in my life that they don't always go to the doctor when they need to. >> they don't. unfortunately i
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have had the pleasure of meeting the king and the late queen and ihave the king and the late queen and i have to say, they did take health very. >> they do take health very seriously. and i think it's such an important public health, um, awareness , um, that he's, he's awareness, um, that he's, he's put out this and made this aware so that people actually can think about their health and that, um, we can start to have these conversations with men about their health because we know sometimes they don't know that sometimes they don't always like coming see health always like coming to see health care professionals . and care professionals. and sometimes the sometimes it's actually the women in their come in women in their lives who come in to for advice about to ask for advice about about the their lives. so just the men in their lives. so just as you've said so what as you've said there so what we've heard so far and we obviously, in terms of the king, he's over 50. and, um, what this is an enlarged prostate is , is is an enlarged prostate is, is known in medical terms as a benign prostate enlargement or bp. and it's quite common in men aged over 50. it's not a cancer andifs aged over 50. it's not a cancer and it's not usually a serious threat to health. and i think we always hear about cancer and we're worried about cancer. but
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many men worry that when they have an enlarged prostate, this means they have an increased risk of developing prostate cancer. risk of developing prostate cancer . and that is not the cancer. and that is not the case. and the risk of prostate cancer is no greater for men with an enlarged prostate than it is for men without an enlarged think. so >> so why then, should people with benign prostate enlargement be worried ? is there is there be worried? is there is there any other problem that it can lead to ? lead to? >> well, really, if you are starting to have your male and your particularly if you're over 50, if you're starting to have symptoms where it's difficult to start peeing, if you're straining to go to the toilet, there, if you're having a weak flow of urine , and if you're flow of urine, and if you're finding that your stop starting when you're going to the toilet to those things to urinate, those are things that you need to seek some medical advice over. and we always say, if you get blood in your urine and that is a particular concern , there's particular concern, there's nothing to worry about in terms of seeking support. we're here to help you. so if you're worried it's always better to
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get support than get further down the line where things have got worse . and really, it's got worse. and really, it's difficult is starting to go to be frequent . and the difficulty be frequent. and the difficulty fully emptying your bladder is a challenge because obviously if you're out and about, challenge because obviously if you're out and about , that means you're out and about, that means it can impact your daily life . it can impact your daily life. >> and how simple is the procedure to get this sorted ? procedure to get this sorted? and will the king be in and out in in fairly short time ? in in fairly short time? >> um, well, we don't have too much detail about what exactly what the king is going through, but what i would say to anyone who's going through this is, you need to think about your diet. so drinking less alcohol and caffeine and fizzy drinks, exercising regularly, drinking less in the evening and limiting intake of artificial sweeteners . intake of artificial sweeteners. those are things that are really positive when we're treating this condition . but also, you this condition. but also, you know, medicine is not the answer to everything. you've got to think about your lifestyle as well. so it really is a case of consulting with your health care professional. and you may have to have some tests like a urine
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test. and there are some other tests that may you may go forward to have, but really seek the advice . don't sit at home the advice. don't sit at home and worry about something , and worry about something, especially when you can come into and have into the pharmacy and have a chat with us. >> hopefully this be chat with us. >.bit hopefully this be chat with us. >.bit like hopefully this be chat with us. >.bit like there ully this be chat with us. >.bit like there were his be chat with us. >.bit like there were a; be chat with us. >.bit like there were a number a bit like there were a number of high profile cases, weren't there? uh, cervical cancer there? of uh, cervical cancer and that encouraged a massive upfickin and that encouraged a massive uptick in young women and women going in to have their smear tests, which isn't the most glamorous thing to do. not many women enjoy it. it's not a very nice, uh, necessarily a nice thing, but it's easy and it's essential it really, essential. and it can really, um, stop up, stop you from getting ill in the future. so perhaps more men will go and get their prostates checked . and their prostates checked. and just to check everything's just to check that everything's okay, as should be. okay, and as it should be. >> really good to have >> yes, really good to have these . storm these conversations. storm ciaran. thank you so much for talking through us ciaran. thank you so much for talki on through us ciaran. thank you so much for talki on newsgh us ciaran. thank you so much for talki on news news. us here on gb news news. >> i take heed of the >> i hope you take heed of the advice and yourself checked advice and get yourself checked as 50. as soon as i turn 50. >> as soon as you turn 50, well, hundreds of schools are shut. >> for a fourth day. that hundreds of schools are shut. >> weathera fourth day. that hundreds of schools are shut. >> weather warningsiay. that hundreds of schools are shut. >> weather warningsiay. thain says weather warnings remain in
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place parts of the country. >> an amber warning for heavy snow is in place in scotland as the uk faced the coldest night of the winter so far. >> so joining us now is meteorologist the met office, meteorologist at the met office, the met office, alex deakin, alex thank you for joining us. so we've had school closures. has weather really warranted has the weather really warranted that. >> there's been some really heavy showers around of snow over the past few days . over the past few days. >> we've got over 30cm of snow lying across the highlands of scotland and low lying areas also covered in quite a bit of show. >> snow. >> so yes, obviously it's january and in northern scotland we do regularly see snow. >> but this has been, you know, building up over a number of days. >> so that's why we've had these issues. and also further south parts of north west england also seeing quite a lot of snow. it's starting ease now though starting to ease now though thankfully. although it's thankfully. so although it's still pretty cold out there today, places enjoying today, many places enjoying quite of sunshine. but quite a bit of sunshine. but yeah, we have seen quite a bit of throughout this so of snow throughout this week, so these deep freeze these headlines of a deep freeze that on next week ,
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that may go on into next week, are they overegging it a little bit ? they're just wrong. i think bit? they're just wrong. i think basically because it's actually going to turn quite a lot milder as we go through the weekends. we're to see a complete we're going to see a complete switch be back. switch around. so we'll be back. worried wet and windy worried about the wet and windy weather saturday and weather to come saturday and particularly weather to come saturday and particularljwindy indeed, so it's looks very windy indeed, so it's going to turn wet and windy and also milder , which is good news also milder, which is good news in some ways, but obviously as it turns all the snow it turns milder, all the snow that's fallen will melt. so that's fallen will melt. so that's an extra problem when the rainfall builds up as well. so you've got the combination of the and the rainfall the snow melt and the rainfall potentially some potentially causing some problems. issuing problems. so we've been issuing warnings for rainfall, warnings today for rainfall, a wind warning was issued yesterday both for sunday and extending into monday. so we're going see a big switch around going to see a big switch around . won't talking about the . we won't be talking about the cold early part next cold into the early part of next week. worried about the week. we'll be worried about the wet windy. wet and the windy. >> not sure if this is >> now, i'm not sure if this is really your your brief necessarily , but it been necessarily, but it has been very cold indeed. necessarily, but it has been venanyld indeed. necessarily, but it has been venanyld ibomb. some papers have >> an ice bomb. some papers have been calling now for a lot of been calling it now for a lot of elderly people , and those who
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elderly people, and those who may not have a lot of money to spare. turning on the heating can be very expensive , but can be very expensive, but incredibly important if you can, to get those temperatures up in your house, because you can get rather unwell when temperatures hit this low. yeah it's important to stay warm. >> one of the one of the parts of our warnings we work with a lot of partners, including the uk hsi, but one of there's a lot of really advice to of really good advice how to stay weather ready, be prepared for winter winter weather. and one of the things we always say when the weather gets particularly cold and snowy and frosty, people get out , is frosty, people can't get out, is to always on your to always check on your neighbours as well. know neighbours as well. i don't know what an ice bomb is. again, i think that's that's some kind of headune think that's that's some kind of headline hype , shall we say. but headline hype, shall we say. but it's certainly very cold, it's certainly been very cold, quite widely across the uk. it's it's certainly been very cold, quite unusually oss the uk. it's it's certainly been very cold, quite unusually cold.|e uk. it's it's certainly been very cold, quite unusually cold. soik. it's it's certainly been very cold, quite unusually cold. so widely. been unusually cold. so widely. in fact, only four of our measuring sites stayed above freezing last night. so, you know, across the whole of the country, we've got 243 measuring sites, so only four of them stayed above freezing at all. so
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it's not just northern scotland that's been cold right the way further south it's been it's been cold as well. so yes, it really is important to, uh, to check your elderly or anyone check on your elderly or anyone that struggles to get out in the cold because it is particularly cold because it is particularly cold at the moment. >> well, alex deakin, meteorologist at the met office, thank you so much for talking through and even dispelling some myths. there the weather myths. there about the weather that been experiencing. myths. there about the weather that good.axperiencing. myths. there about the weather that good. nowiencing. myths. there about the weather that good. now we :ing. myths. there about the weather that good. now we would >> always good. now we would just royals and just discussing the royals and we now have an update. so let's cross to kensington palace and speak royal commentator , speak to our royal commentator, commentator , not commentator correspondent, not commentator correspondent, not commentator correspondent, not commentator correspondent . uh, commentator correspondent. uh, cameron walker cameron, update . us >> yeah, we've just heard from kensington palace in the last few minutes, emily, that the prince of wales has visited the london clinic where his wife, the princess of wales, underwent abdominal surgery a few days ago to spend time with her. his royal highness has just left the hospital. remember we heard yesterday that the prince is
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going to try and divide his time between spending time with his wife by her side in hospital and of course, looking after their three young children who are all still at primary school, attending school as normal. uh in the windsor area , of course, in the windsor area, of course, we heard yesterday , quite we heard yesterday, quite surprisingly, actually, that the princess has undergone this surgery but is going to spend around two weeks in hospital . around two weeks in hospital. well, we're told her condition is non—cancerous and it wasn't an emergency admission . it was an emergency admission. it was very much planned, but it does suggest, because of the significant time being spent in hospital and then 2 or 3 months convalescing at home afterwards , convalescing at home afterwards, it has been pretty significant surgery. so for the time being, all of the princesses engagements have been put on hold . the prince of wales's hold. the prince of wales's pubuc hold. the prince of wales's public engagements have also put on hold so he can support his family . and then an hour and family. and then an hour and a half later after that statement from kensington palace yesterday , we heard more about his majesty the king's health. he has diagnosed with an
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has been diagnosed with an enlarged prostate and he is going to be going into hospital next for treatment on that. next week for treatment on that. it's incredibly rare that we'd hear any specific details about members of the royal family's various ailments, but i'm told that the king wanted make that the king wanted to make his diagnosis public, to try and encourage men. his age to encourage other men. his age to seek or at least seek treatment, or at least medical advice they're medical advice if they're experiencing similar symptoms . experiencing similar symptoms. but of course, it was a bit of a double whammy. royal health scare yes , saturday. but just to scare yes, saturday. but just to recap the latest news in the last few minutes is that the prince of wales has visited the princess hospital has now princess in hospital and has now left presumably is his left and presumably is on his way back do the school pick way back to do the school pick up afternoon . up this afternoon. >> thank you very much for that update . it does seem like the, update. it does seem like the, uh, prince of wales might be having to pick up rather more duties, not just public duties, but also those family duties as well. over the over the coming weeks. cameron walker, thank you very much. yes. >> keep keep on cameron coming up. we'll to westminster up. we'll be back to westminster to what's with this to see what's going on with this rwanda bill. stay with us.
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>> looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . good weather on gb news. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie from the met office. we'll be staying dry for many overnight, but it's going to be another very cold night with further risk of ice and with a further risk of ice and snow across northern areas of scotland in particular. that snow being brought in this snow being brought in by this cold northerly wind is arctic air that we've had with us all week. will some subtle week. there will be some subtle changes through the evening and overnight, mean overnight, though that mean that the pushes to the wind direction pushes to a north westerly. so much of the snow will start to come in across scotland, across north western scotland, as to any areas as opposed to any eastern areas of england . so it should be of england. so it should be a dry night for the bulk of the uk. plenty of clear skies , some uk. plenty of clear skies, some mist developing, perhaps mist and fog developing, perhaps some freezing wales some freezing fog across wales and central areas, but really will be down as low as minus nine in southern areas. so another frost to another very sharp frost to start friday morning . and but start friday morning. and but there will be plenty of sunshine
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around through friday. and the temperatures are a little bit higher through the day as we've got more of westerly got a bit more of a westerly wind a different wind wind that's a different wind direction we've had direction that we've had all week , so plenty sunshine week, so plenty of sunshine through however in the through the day. however in the north, there is some north, notice there is some quite persistent snow. there's a snow ice warning for many snow and ice warning for many northwestern areas of scotland, and be quite breezy and and it will be quite breezy and unpleasant here. there's a risk of disruption due to snow and ice on weekend, ice on the weekend, though there's change coming there's a marked change coming to unsettled weather. to much more unsettled weather. some strong winds, some very strong winds, particularly on sunday, but heavy rain to come, particularly across through across western areas through saturday, sunday and into monday . but the temperatures will slowly start to rise. see you later . that warm feeling inside later. that warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers , sponsors and from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news .
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>> good afternoon britain. it is 1:00 on thursday the 18th of january. >> don't block this bill. that's the plea of rishi sunak this morning as he urges the house of lords not to frustrate the passage of the rwanda bill through the will of the democratic house, but will the house of lords listen on hm and royal shock as the princess of wales spends her third day in hospital and the king prepares for his first, who will step in to cover for the top royals as
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they step back from their duties . tragedy in skegness 82 year old toddler bronson battersby was two inches too short for to reach food as he was left starved in his dad's house over christmas , his mum has revealed. christmas, his mum has revealed. questions are being asked of social services and the police. but should the mother have checked in on her. son to? >> i mean, when it comes to these absolutely tragic stories, it does seem that people naturally want to find a fall guy, find someone to blame, attribute, blame it could be that this is just one of those incredibly tragic incidents. >> yeah , it does seem that some >> yeah, it does seem that some of the analysis is asking, why didn't the social services bash down the door when they came knocking , and they can't knocking, and they can't reasonably do that ? you can't reasonably do that? you can't expect every circumstance
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expect in every circumstance that social services turn up to a house. no one answers the doon a house. no one answers the door. therefore they bash it through. >> well, it's against the law, isn't it? to do that? yeah, that's damage that's criminal damage. >> that one doesn't quite sit right there's a lot of right with me. there's a lot of things. i think there are a lot of questions to be answered in this case. did neighbours not hear anything? they not hear anything? were they not cries from this little baby as he usually. >> and i don't think it's i don't think it's wrong to ask the question where was the mum in all this? why was she away from the child for so long? what exactly was going on there? we don't this. don't know. don't know this. we don't know. of of course . the mum is of course, of course. the mum is in a state of great distress as you can imagine. and she's been speaking to some of the papers about what could have happened . about what could have happened. uh, but yes, lots of failures, it seems. >> lots of failures . and i >> lots of failures. and i suppose there's also the question is, is, is there we always want someone to blame ? is always want someone to blame? is there perhaps a case that this was a tragic act of god ? the dad
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was a tragic act of god? the dad drops dead and no one's there to look after the toddler ? i mean, look after the toddler? i mean, is it perhaps simply that simple? >> well, it may be, uh, keep your views coming in on all of the stories we're discussing. vaiews@gbnews.com. but let's get your headlines with sophia . get your headlines with sophia. thanks emily. >> good afternoon. it's 1:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing, and pass his rwanda bill, designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers . the third of asylum seekers. the third reading passed the commons unamended last night, with a majority 44. does tens of majority of 44. does tens of tories threatened to rebel , but tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it . rishi sunak insists the vote it. rishi sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely united, and says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority. there
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is now only one question will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people, as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing? >> it's as simple as that. we have a plan and the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down, not just down by a bit , down by a third down by a bit, down by a third compared to crossings in the year before . year before. >> and the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats. it means 621 people have arrived in the uk so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history. scott who do we want to? >> what do we want ? where do we
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>> what do we want? where do we want it ? want it? >> schools have closed public transport is limited, and hospitals are offering only christmas day level services as teachers, transport and healthcare workers walk off the job. there demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretaries intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused , heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one. some of those on the picket line explained why they're striking. >> has been underfunding >> there has been underfunding and lack of pay over many years. we've had a haemorrhaging of skilled workers throughout the pubuc skilled workers throughout the public services, so this is a pay public services, so this is a pay dispute on the face of it, but also it's protection of the resources of public services. >> well, the teaching profession has received no pay uplift for the last three years. while we've watched successive pay increases being made to colleagues across every other jurisdiction in these islands, the teaching profession cannot be treated in northern ireland as second class citizens to everywhere else on these islands
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, and the prince of wales has visited his wife, the princess of wales , in hospital, where she of wales, in hospital, where she is recovering from abdominal surgery . surgery. >> princess catherine, said to be doing well after the planned procedure on tuesday but as expected, she'll stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile the queen has said the king is fine and is looking forward to getting back to work as treatment for an as he awaits treatment for an enlarged . the 75 year enlarged prostate. the 75 year old monarch says he's keen to go pubuc old monarch says he's keen to go public with his condition to encourage other men to get checked us has carried out checked. the us has carried out another round of strikes on iranian backed houthi targets in yemen . in 14 sites were hit, yemen. in 14 sites were hit, with the military saying they posed an imminent threat to navy ships in the red sea region. it's after rebels struck an american owned vessel passing through gulf of through the gulf of aden yesterday . it's the fourth set yesterday. it's the fourth set of us strikes in week of us strikes in under a week with washington also relisting the as terrorists. uk the houthis as terrorists. uk forces were not involved in the latest action in trying ticket costs. more at station machines ,
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now it's back to tom and . emily. now it's back to tom and. emily. >> yes, well, the prime minister has urged peers in the house of lords to do the right thing and back his rwanda legislation . back his rwanda legislation. that's as he prepares for a showdown with the house of lords following his victory in the commons last night. >> he is already been warned that his flagship policy will face strong opposition from peers. >> and speaking at a press conference in downing street earlier today , he appealed to earlier today, he appealed to them, saying it's now time for them, saying it's now time for the lords to pass this bill. this is an urgent national priority , but will they? priority, but will they? >> we can speak now with gb news political correspondent katherine forster. how big an obstacle is the house of lords, then , in. then, in. >> oh, it's a very big obstacle indeed, tom and emily. good afternoon. yes um, rishi sunak has won just one battle to get this legislation through the
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house of commons, where, of course, he's got a very comfortable majority. he's got past all those right wing mps wanting to toughen up the bill. but to be honest , the biggest but to be honest, the biggest battle was always going to be when this legislation goes to the house of lords, where the concern natives do not have a majority and they are not in charge of the timetable. so first of all, they can't control the speed at which this is debated. it's expected it won't even start in the house of lords for a few weeks. and then it's likely that lords are going to put down all sorts of amendments of their own. now the trouble is likely to be not from people on the right trying to toughen it up, but from lords rather on the left, who are very concerned about potential breaches of international law and want to soften it. so, lord carlile, for instance, he's a barrister, he's a cross bench peer and he's been saying today that the government
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is sort of going towards totalitarianism , um, in its sort totalitarianism, um, in its sort of dictating to the courts what they what will happen and that they what will happen and that they will potentially ignore for them. and the thing is that amendments may be put down trying to soften the bill and then potentially some of the one nafion then potentially some of the one nation tories in the conservative party back in the commons might be tempted to support those , because quite a support those, because quite a lot of them are not that happy about the bill. as it stands . so about the bill. as it stands. so huge difficulties coming for rishi sunak. he's won one battle, he's got another battle looming. it will get through eventually. um, and then of course, will there be challenges in the courts? rishi sunak is saying today he's optimistic. he's hopeful of getting flights off. but i think really notable in the press conference he gave a little bit earlier , he was a little bit earlier, he was asked point blank on more than one occasion where on these flights would take off and he couldn't say. he couldn't say
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when and he couldn't say indeed , when and he couldn't say indeed, if they ever would suppose the danger for the prime minister now is it is out of his hands. >> it is now in the hands of the house of lords, a legislative chamber where his party only holds one third of the seats. there two thirds belonging to crossbench , lib dems, labour crossbench, lib dems, labour peers and the rest of them, even the bishops of the church of england. um, this is going to be a significant challenge and there might be voices within the labour party, within the lib dem party, who simply want to delay it all, delay it until after the summer delay it so that flights can't really get going until potentially after the election . potentially after the election. in >> yes, indeed, the government is running out of time, aren't they? we know they're saying they're planning for an election in the latter half of the year, potentially . november the 14th potentially. november the 14th seems to have been pencilled in shortly after the american election . they don't have long election. they don't have long to get people on these planes.
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they don't have long to get the numbers crossing the channel down. now, rishi sunak has said he will stop the boats. that's what he's promised. i don't think there's anybody believe that that's going to happen before the election , next before the election, next election. if they could get election. but if they could get significant to rwanda, significant numbers to rwanda, at least that would show a determination and they believe that would act as a deterrent. remember of course, the original plan announced under boris johnson announced under the then home secretary priti patel, was if you come to if you come across the channel illegally, you will be sent packing on a one way ticket to rwanda . you one way ticket to rwanda. you will not stay here. you will be sent to rwanda and you will be staying there. you won't be coming back . so now we're in a coming back. so now we're in a situation almost two years on. no gone. 400 million has no one's gone. 400 million has been committed . and there will been committed. and there will certainly be appeals. been committed. and there will certainly be appeals . now, the certainly be appeals. now, the government have said those are going to be tiny in number. they've said they're prepared to ignore for the european court of
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human rights, but plenty of people simply don't believe them. and rishi sunak has staked now so much on this one issue that for all the other government's success is getting inflation down, etc. are beginning to offer some tax cuts and a lot of that is simply not going to be noticed and have the pubuc going to be noticed and have the public just given up in large numbers on the conservative party, because of course, we've got this terror bubble for the conservatives yougov poll out today, giving labour a whopping 27% lead and putting reform on 12. yeah a huge lead now for the labour party. >> thank you very much. katherine forster gb news political correspondent . political correspondent. interesting that catherine said that some have been well, there have accusations that the have been accusations that the government is acting in a dictatorial they seem dictatorial way to me. they seem more impotent than anything at the moment. but let us know, are they dictators? it doesn't seem like to me. they dictators? it doesn't seem like it to me. they dictators? it doesn't seem likeit to me.very they dictators? it doesn't seem like it to me.very odd, especially >> it seems very odd, especially as know now. the big
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as we know now. the big criticism is this is going criticism is that this is going to going through the to be going through the democratic to democratic house to the undemocratic house, to the unelected house, if anyone's the dictator in that situation , i dictator in that situation, i don't think it's the elected politicians. people don't think it's the elected poli'throw. people don't think it's the elected poli'throw out people don't think it's the elected poli'throw out these people don't think it's the elected poli'throw out these words aople just throw out these words hoping they'll anyway , hoping they'll stick anyway, let's now cross delay a red wall seat in greater won manchester by the conservatives in 2019. >> very important seat. a good example gb news north west of england reporter is there for us.thank england reporter is there for us. thank you very much sophie. um, tell us what's the word on the street ? well, here in leigh, the street? well, here in leigh, it's one of those classic red brick wall seats, as you said, ever since 1922, when it first became a labour seat , that is became a labour seat, that is the way it always voted . and the way it always voted. and that is, as you say , until 2019, that is, as you say, until 2019, when they voted conservative for the very first time, a swing of 12.3. so that was a huge deal for the general election in 2019. a really big thing to note. now now, in terms of leigh itself, i've been here this
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morning speaking to people on the street about the trust. one of the key issues, of course, as we come into this crucial general year , is going general election year, is going to immigration. that yougov to be immigration. that yougov poll, published in the times this morning says that only 35% of brits actually trust rishi sunak on the key issue of immigration. so this morning in leigh, i've been out on the streets speaking to people here who come the general election will that will be one will be voting that will be one of the key things on their mind and what they had to and this is what they had to say. no, really . say. um, no, not really. >> why not? um, just because they've promised other things and they've never really followed up. >> i don't think so. why not? um well, they've they've tried to send people back to africa and they've been stopped by law, haven't they? >> so people will keep coming . >> so people will keep coming. >> so people will keep coming. >> uh, they won't stop . >> uh, they won't stop. >> uh, they won't stop. >> they can't stop the boats. no >> they can't stop the boats. no >> tell me, why not? >> tell me, why not? >> why not? how many chances of the ad. how many chances ? the ad. how many chances? >> as you know . >> as you know. >> as you know. >> well, they're obviously
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trying to push this rwanda bill through at the minute. do you think they'll be able to accomplish that? >> never will. accomplish that? >> i never will. accomplish that? >> i don't never will. accomplish that? >> i don't trust'er will. accomplish that? >> i don't trust any'ill. accomplish that? >> i don't trust any government to tackle the immigration at the moment. >> why not? >> why not? >> think too difficult to >> i think it's too difficult to tackle not one country in the in europe's managed to tackle it . europe's managed to tackle it. >> there we go. some very , very >> there we go. some very, very strong opinions here in leigh this morning. people without any kind of trust for the government it seems so as we come into this general election year, what will be really interesting is to see crucial seats like leigh, whether or not they will be returning to voting for labour or if rishi sunak will be able to garner more trust and persuade them to stick once again with the conservative party . party. >> really interesting hearing from those voices. there in leigh, people that are really going to be the people that decide whether or not the tories get to cling on or not, not a lot of love for what's happening. and i think perhaps
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the most pertinent response then was how many chances have they had? people are willing to give people chance, after people one chance, but after time and time again, perhaps not. sophie reaper, thank you very much for bringing us those voices from leigh in greater manchester. >> says we always say >> well, it says we always say actions speak louder than words. and there have been a lot of words and not any, uh, no, uh, no action or results. anyway >> not enough, not enough. >> not enough, not enough. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> well, lincolnshire police in other in other news, has referred itself to the police watchdog after two year old bronson battersby was found dead alongside his father kenneth, in their home in skegness. >> yes, this comes after it emerged the force was contacted on two separate occasions by a lincolnshire county council social worker who got no answer when they tried knocking on the door of mr battersby home. >> well, it also emerged that bronson was tragically just two inches too small to reach a fridge full of leftovers that could have saved his life.
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>> a truly tragic story. for more on this, let's speak to gb news, east of england reporter will hollis will i understand the police force there have, uh, turned themselves over to the watchdog for investigation . am watchdog for investigation. am i right ? right? >> yes. well, just to give you anidea >> yes. well, just to give you an idea of how young bronson is, he was too small to reach the refrigerator, which could have been, quite literally, the difference between life and death . this is quite a quiet death. this is quite a quiet street here in skegness. usually a very busy seaside town , but a very busy seaside town, but there has been a lot of attention on this street today and yesterday, because this is the home of bronson battersby , the home of bronson battersby, who until quite recently was a living, happy young boy. now lincolnshire county council, which is responsible for social services here, described the death of the young boy as a tragic incident. it's now now
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referred itself towards having a rapid review , which means that rapid review, which means that it will be looking at its processes for handling the case of bronson as well . lincolnshire of bronson as well. lincolnshire police have said that they don't treat they haven't treated this death of kenneth or of bronson as suspicious , but they have as suspicious, but they have referred itself to the police watchdog , which is something watchdog, which is something that happens quite naturally as part of any police process where there is a death that could have been preventable and could have something to do with the police processes . now, just to remind processes. now, just to remind you of what happened here, bronson was known to social services . there was a meeting, services. there was a meeting, a visit that was expected at his home here back in early january . home here back in early january. but when that meeting wasn't met, and upon another occasion , met, and upon another occasion, as well as police being in formed, it took a third visit before social services was able
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to gain access to the property . to gain access to the property. now, what we've heard from the, the services here is that this is a tragic incident. and while all of these services are going to be reviewing how they handle this, we've also been speaking to people in lincoln who have been described what they think of the fact that this poor young boy was left to die alone over christmas . christmas. >> i don't think he seems to have gone wrong. it's just an unfortunate set of circumstances . from what i hear, nobody knew that father had any ill that the father even had any ill condition. and i think the social worker went and tried social worker went and she tried to as much as she to get there as much as she could. and the thing is, as i said that they haven't got said also, that they haven't got the right to break in. so i think did best that she think she did the best that she could the circumstances. could in the circumstances. but it but it's just it is tragic. but it's just unfortunate . unfortunate. >> uh, i think it's a really difficult situation , a sense difficult situation, a sense that social services have been put through it, haven't they, over the last few years? um, about not intervening enough . if about not intervening enough. if
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i think in general people see an awful lot going on and they are frightened to do anything so i think somebody should have actually perhaps broken down the doon >> there are more people who perhaps should have had something to do with it, you know what where the know what i mean? where were the neighbours? were the where neighbours? where were the where were of the family? were the rest of the family? >> think it is just >> so i don't think it is just down social services or the down to social services or the police looking after vulnerable people most important people that are most important thing really. people that are most important thirand ally. people that are most important thirand the police , obviously >> and the police, obviously they're because they're overstretched because they're overstretched because they staff. same with they have no staff. same with social services . social services. >> they're overstretched, >> they're very overstretched, but silly things. but they focus on silly things. ihave but they focus on silly things. i have a friend who's got a child, uh , he's separated from child, uh, he's separated from his dad . they only see him once his dad. they only see him once a week . and, you know, he comes a week. and, you know, he comes back with bruises and stuff. so social don't really look at it as they should do . they just go, as they should do. they just go, well, it's parents. they have to see their kids. so a lot of the time, i think they don't step in when they should do. and they just sort brush it the just sort of brush it under the carpet leave to there. so carpet and leave it to there. so >> yes. well, as society , we >> yes. well, as society, we more widely will be looked at.
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the mother of paul bronson has said that she puts the blame squarely on social services. and if social services had done their job if social services had done theirjob properly, bronson, she thinks, would still be alive . thinks, would still be alive. >> it'sjust thinks, would still be alive. >> it's just such a tragic story. will hollis, our east midlands reporter thank you so much for bringing us that latest from skegness . from skegness. >> yes, you are watching and listening to good afternoon britain on gb news. coming up, we'll be getting the very latest on the double royal health scare with the princess of wales currently in hospital following surgery and the king also set for surgery for an enlarged prostate . but this are much more prostate. but this are much more to bring you in. just one moment. stay with
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news news. it's 125 in the afternoon, so let's turn to the royals. >> they've been hit with a double health scare yesterday , double health scare yesterday, with the princess of wales in hospital following treatment for abdominal surgery . the king is abdominal surgery. the king is set to face treatment of his own for an enlarged prostate . for an enlarged prostate. >> and in the last hour it's emerged that the prince of wales has visited wife the has visited his wife at the private london clinic where she is recovering . whilst the queen is recovering. whilst the queen is recovering. whilst the queen is said the king is fine and is looking forward to getting back to work. queen camilla, that is uh, that's as the king is awaiting his treatment . awaiting his treatment. >> yes. so cross back to >> yes. so let's cross back to kensington palace and speak to our royal correspondent, cameron ward . our cameron, bring us the
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ward. our cameron, bring us the latest on this situation . yeah latest on this situation. yeah >> so queen camilla is keeping calm and carrying on. she is out in aberdeen this afternoon where she spoke to some people there and he said she said that the king is fine and looking forward to getting back to work. of course he is awaiting treatment next week for an enlarged prostate . it's incredibly rare prostate. it's incredibly rare that member the royal that a member of the royal family disclose such family would disclose such private personal information, but i've been told that the king was actually quite keen to give his diagnosis to the public domain because he wants to encourage men his age to encourage other men his age to go and get themselves checked out if they feel that they have symptoms by a medical professional. as elsewhere in the last hour, the prince of wales has just left the london clinic, having visited the princess of wales on tuesday, she underwent planned abdominal surgery. now, i'm told that that surgery. now, i'm told that that surgery was not was to do with a condition that is not cancerous, and it was planned so it wasn't
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and it was planned so it wasn't an emergency procedure. however, she is expected to be in hospital for 40 for up to 14 days, which would suggest it was quite a significant operation . quite a significant operation. and in addition to that , she's and in addition to that, she's also going to be spending 2 to 3 months at home convalescing. so all her public engagements for now are very much on on hold, as is the prince of wales. we're not expecting to see the princess of wales until at least easter. now it's understood the prince of wales is going to be splitting his time between on air, spending his time at the hospital in london with the princess and indeed looking after their three children prince george, princess charlotte and prince louis. the three children were at school as normal yesterday. it's understood they haven't visited their mother yet. in the hospital, but it looks like the family are just keeping calm and carrying on. really? um, the big question and the challenge perhaps , of the royal family is perhaps, of the royal family is we now have essentially three major very senior royals out of
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action. it'sjust major very senior royals out of action. it's just the queen camilla, who's keeping calm and carrying on and other less senior royals such as the duchess of edinburgh, who's also been and about today. now, been out and about today. now, as for will the king need next week when he goes into hospital? a counsellor of state to depufise a counsellor of state to deputise on his behalf? i understand that's not the case. so although we're not going to see king in public, is see the king in public, he is still well enough to still going to be well enough to carry his duties behind the carry out his duties behind the scenes. so, for example, going through government's red through his government's red boxes, official boxes, signing official documents reading documents and reading state papers . but documents and reading state papers. but of documents and reading state papers . but of course, next week papers. but of course, next week we are going to have the king and the future queen hospital and the future queen in hospital at time, most likely . at the same time, most likely. >> you very much for >> well, thank you very much for bringing us that, royal correspondent cameron walker . correspondent cameron walker. yes, it does show how small the royal family is in terms of those who were out there doing duties. well, of course it was slimmed down by king charles. >> one of the things he >> that's one of the things he wanted sort of make sure wanted to do, sort of make sure that of that there's a core group of royals fewer sort of royals and fewer sort of peripheral characters , but i peripheral characters, but i suppose that comes with its own costs . yes. costs. yes. >> well, coming up, we're going
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costs. yes. >>be ell, coming up, we're going costs. yes. >>be discussed. up, we're going costs. yes. >>be discussed. king ne're going costs. yes. >>be discussed. king davos,)ing costs. yes. >>be discussed. king davos, the to be discussed. king davos, the meeting of the world economic forum , where all the brilliant forum, where all the brilliant minds of the world go to meet and talk about very important things. but uh, we're going to be asking, is it just a pointless talking shop? what do you think? >> oh gosh . you've really. yes. >> oh gosh. you've really. yes. no. >> yes . no. >> yes. no. >> yes. no. >> thrown that at me. um, i've got a nuanced answer. okay, well, we'll have to wait until after headlines to hear it. after the headlines to hear it. what a hook. what a what a tantalising tease . let's get all tantalising tease. let's get all of that after your headlines with sophia . with sophia. >> thanks, tom. it's 130. with sophia. >> thanks, tom. it's130. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing, and pass his rwanda bill, designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers. the third reading passed the commons unamended last night, with a majority of 44 dozen of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it.
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rishi sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely united, and says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority . and urgent national priority. and the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats . it channel yesterday in eight small boats. it means channel yesterday in eight small boats . it means 621 people have boats. it means 621 people have arrived in the uk so far this yean arrived in the uk so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history. schools have closed , public transport is closed, public transport is limited and hospitals are offering only christmas day level services as teachers transport and healthcare workers walk off the job, their demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretary's intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved
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now? tom left us on tantal rising tenterhooks, didn't he? i did, i did, i did not reveal my, uh, really my preference and do you know what? >> i'm going to be really boring. i'm going to give a nuanced answer, uh, which is make in some ways it's make it in some ways it's useful, other it's useful, and in other ways it's showboating. there you go. >> surely if you are >> well, surely if you are a libertarian or a freedom loving person , you probably should see person, you probably should see it as the core brit lobbyists do seem to try and get into bed with government and sort regulations in your favour. >> you haven't, as i have sat through, not even sat through, enjoyed 30 minutes of javier milei the new president of argentina , uh, really giving the argentina, uh, really giving the audience a dressing down in the prime slot at the world economic. you've got a poster of him in your bedroom, don't you? >> i don't, not yet. >>— >> i don't, not yet. >> yet. >> not yet. >> not yet. >> i'll it for you. for your >> i'll get it for you. for your birthday. right. joining us, joining us is journalist at novara michael and novara media, michael walker and the broadcaster albie amankona. so let's put that question to our expert panel instead. let's
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not just have tom's view on that one. michael davos yay or nay. would you accept an invitation? >> oh that's a question. probably as long as it was all expenses paid. and i suppose that's that's part of the problem davos. right. problem with davos. right. because critique of it is because the critique of it is you've got great and the you've got the great and the good, rich and the powerful you've got the great and the goorsort rich and the powerful you've got the great and the goorsort ofich and the powerful you've got the great and the goorsort of government)owerful you've got the great and the goorsort of government elites ul and sort of government elites and sort of government elites and civil and then some people from civil society people who are society and people who are cynical about it would these society and people who are cyn people rut it would these society and people who are cyn people allt would these society and people who are cyn people all outyuld these society and people who are cyn people all out for these are people all out for themselves. >> they sort >> this is where they sort of organise interests so that organise their interests so that they maintain they can maintain their positions they would positions of power. they would say, important say, no, this is an important place where we can coordinate for climate place where we can coordinate for artificial climate place where we can coordinate for artificial intelligence; place where we can coordinate for artificial intelligence . change, artificial intelligence. >> then unfortunate that >> it is then unfortunate that it the most sort of it is in one of the most sort of glamorous resorts in the world, and all by helicopter. and they all go by helicopter. if to sort if you wanted to sort of downplay critiques that downplay those critiques that you're doing this yourselves you're doing this for yourselves , it somewhere , you might have it somewhere a little humble. little bit more humble. >> i suppose it is >> but obe, i suppose it is useful. i mean, just this morning, chancellor the morning, the chancellor of the exchequer, a exchequer, jeremy hunt, was on a panel the ceo panel with sam altman, the ceo of openai. the people that make chatgpt, i mean, it's useful for world leaders and business leaders to meet and talk. i
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suppose. >> look, i think davos is incredibly useful. personally, i would love to go myself, expenses paid or not. i paid myself if i could afford it, but just i would love actually. >> why don't you go next year? >> why don't you go next year? >> maybe if gb news >> well, maybe if gb news pay for i'll go. but for me to go, i'll go. but >> but on counts as expenses paid. >> well, anyway, if i could afford i would. i would afford to go, i would. i would pay afford to go, i would. i would pay to go myself. but on the point about the argentinian president, made president, he made a barnstorming sat barnstorming speech, which i sat through way, through as well. by the way, tom, talking about the way that the world has betrayed the western world has betrayed its how are in hock its values, how we are in hock to environmental and to the environmental agenda and radical feminism, how we needed smaller states . it's all things smaller states. it's all things that i think gb news viewers would happy with. i would be quite happy with. so i think important to actually think it's important to actually these big events like these these big events like davos, as long as there's a battle of ideas on. davos, as long as there's a bat hang ideas on. davos, as long as there's a bat hang on,3s on. davos, as long as there's a bat hang on, isn't on. davos, as long as there's a bat hang on, isn't (all >> hang on, isn't this all you're a free marketeer, aren't you, alby? the worst you, alby? isn't this the worst of lobbying? it's a collusion between big government and big tech . big business, isn't it? tech. big business, isn't it? no.because if tech. big business, isn't it? no. because if the tech. big business, isn't it? no.because if the chancellor, >> because if the chancellor, jeremy hunt, sat down with a big tech boss. >> right. he's going to come up with suit that
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with regulations that suit that big about the big tech boss. what about the little man? what about the small business people you know, business people who, you know, don't that time with don't have that time with with senior politicians on the international stage, they don't get a look in? >> well, that's what mps are for, emily. we have a constituency based parliament in this and local this country and local businesses will go and meet with their local mps, those their local mps, and then those mps will raise those issues in parliament. this is just another forum for those discussions to happen. and i think it's an important forum. michael do you see why a lot of people have perhaps a great deal of suspicion , even verging on the suspicion, even verging on the conspiratorial, about the power that the world economic forum has? >>i has? >> isuppose has? >> i suppose they don't help themselves with schwab , themselves with klaus schwab, themselves with klaus schwab, the guy who sort of runs it looking a bit like a bond villain and trying to talk, perhaps as if he has more power than he does. than he actually does. >> i they seem to >> yeah, i mean, they seem to want to emphasise their power, whereas if i was their pr advisor, i'd probably tell them to downplay i mean, it is to downplay it. i mean, it is interesting be interesting that it used to be sort of the main critique of, of davos from left. and
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davos was from the left. and i mean, do maintain that mean, i still do maintain that i think them to think it's useful for them to collaborate on some issues, but probably they're all going to also keep their taxes low. >> that was sort of made very a point made very effectively on >> that was sort of made very a poirpanelie very effectively on >> that was sort of made very a poirpanelie vsomeone ively on >> that was sort of made very a poirpanelie vsomeone saying1 the panel by someone saying you've conference on you've got a whole conference on inequality and haven't inequality and you haven't talked tax, right? inequality and you haven't talked there's:ax, right? inequality and you haven't talked there's that ight? inequality and you haven't talked there's that sort’ >> so there's that sort of oversight davos on the right oversight of davos on the right there to be more of there now seems to be more of a conspiracy davos really conspiracy that davos is really trying to control the world. and i why i don't that i suppose why i don't find that so persuasive is because you know rich really know i think the rich really want their, their want to maintain their, their wealth money. and wealth and their money. and that's want to keep that's why they want to keep taxes low. sure they do taxes low. i'm not sure they do have of inherent have this sort of inherent desire constantly have more desire to constantly have more power how power and control how far people's are from their people's shops are from their from their homes and their workplaces. with a 15 minute city conspiracy , you think the city conspiracy, you think the likes of elon musk and the big tech bosses, who arguably have more have more power than more power, have more power than some of our politicians and some of our government leaders? >> think they are >> you don't think that they are using their platforms as business people to try and shape the world, but to what end? >> so i suppose they are. well, the sort of great reset
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conspiracy theory is it's sort of like they all want to inject us in asking you in vaccines. well i think they want to assert some but think the some influence, but i think the idea that they all have the same influence is make influence, which is to make a sort of perfectly managed, hierarchical society, which is sort of completely rationally organised and everyone's vaccinated , everyone is in vaccinated, everyone is in a city with good public transport. i mean, the whole thing just seems bit implausible seems a little bit implausible to i think they one to me. i think they have one shared interest, which is they want to keep their wealth and power, which tends to just mean let's government , but let's have some government, but not government. let's not too much government. let's keep and try and keep keep taxes low and try and keep the law sort of up and the rule of law sort of up and running, think is what running, which i think is what they going but they tend to be going for. but i don't understand there's don't understand why there's this and suspicion this this hatred and suspicion of wealthy people at davos and this this hatred and suspicion of w> these people who have >> these are people who have improved living for improved standards of living for people the world. people across the world. capitalism lifted billions capitalism have lifted billions of of poverty over of people out of poverty over the last century. these tech innovations that we're talking about to improve the about are going to improve the lives all of us. i don't lives of all of us. so i don't understand where this suspicion comes think concern understand where this suspicion cothat think concern understand where this suspicion cothat they think concern understand where this suspicion cothat they mayink concern understand where this suspicion cothat they may be concern understand where this suspicion cothat they may be able :oncern understand where this suspicion cothat they may be able to cern
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is that they may be able to essentially rig the system in their favour , whereas as i said their favour, whereas as i said before , individuals and small before, individuals and small businesses don't get heard. >> i think that is one of the big concerns when it comes to davos. it's also become a bit of a performance too . i believe we a performance too. i believe we have a clip of something that happened at davos . happened at davos. >> now look , ayat nouri luke >> now look, ayat nouri luke miall luke miall wahaca. now ayat nouri. no you , you are now. ayat nouri. no you, you are now. shin bet . ayat nouri. no you, you are now. shin bet. kiran. kiran . shin bet. kiran. kiran. >> it's an interesting perspective to bring to the world economic forum. um i'm not quite sure what this is meant to be advancing . be advancing. >> i'm not sure the context of this clip. i would imagine that there presumably talking about environmentalism and indigenous rights and sort of that was someone sort of introducing
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their presence before discussing it. i mean, i suppose the critique of this is that this is sort of tokenism, and it's the sort of tokenism, and it's the sort of tokenism, and it's the sort of global elite trying to look like they are of very look like they are sort of very woke in tune with all woke and in tune with all different sorts of people the different sorts of people in the world. you have they world. but you know, have they actually real actually gone and met real people they invited people or have they invited one representative speak representative to come and speak to them at davos? is to them on stage at davos? is their commitment to indigenous people really serious, or is this opportunity ? and this a photo opportunity? and i'll for the audience i'll leave that for the audience to decide. i'll leave that for the audience to (perhaps a photo opportunity. >> perhaps a photo opportunity. >> perhaps a photo opportunity. >> agree you on that one. >> if davos and the world economic forum trying to sort economic forum is trying to sort of find the best ways to run society is might i gently posit that way in which some that the way in which some societies run lead leads to worse outcomes , worse life worse outcomes, worse life expectancy , a rejection of expectancy, a rejection of modern medicine, a rejection of modernity in its whole? perhaps if this organisation is trying to say there are good ways to run societies, there are policies that perhaps would be better for people to learn from and worse ways. why are they lording a kind of society that
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seems to reject modernity and reject the enlightenment and reject the enlightenment and reject those sort of advances that have delivered us longer life expectancies and more wealth and more happiness ? wealth and more happiness? >> you got that all from the clip that we just saw? i'm not, i'm not i'm not really sure that i'm not i'm not really sure that i would deduce from the clip, which looked like some sort of traditional ritual being performed on a stage. don't performed on a stage. i don't know would deduce know that i would deduce all of that. i think that. look, i think it's important that the important that all of the different countries at davos are represented and lots of different cultures and countries of different customs, and that was just a custom that we saw. and i think want to and i think if we want to include the different include all the different countries world, i think countries in the world, i think it's include it's important that we include all different they all the different customs. they might handshake is very might think a handshake is very alien. that is very alien. we think that is very alien, but people do different things countries things in different countries and that's organisations and that's why organisations like and events are so like davos and events are so important, where everyone comes together and discusses the pressing . pressing issues. >> so it's just a nice thing. essentially >> and what's wrong with nice things? >> why not? we like nice with nice things. >> my point is really davos >> but my point is really davos do still stand in my view.
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>> well should to >> well should we turn to a slightly more serious topic of discussion. bronson battersby the tragic case of the two year old who died alone in a house starving to death over the christmas period? there's a question , michael, about who's question, michael, about who's to blame here and if there is someone to blame. a lot of criticism for the social services. but on the other hand, there is the argument that this was just a tragedy that happened . and what's your view on this? >> i think from the information we have, it would be unfair to assign blame to anyone . i mean, assign blame to anyone. i mean, i understand that the social worker seems to have sort of stepped back from their duties, but i read, you know, but from what i read, you know, they visit the they they turned up to visit the person who was sort of, you know, within their care or sort of on their books , and no one of on their books, and no one answered the door. then they answered the door. and then they called and the called the police, and the police and then called the police, and the policcame and then called the police, and the policcame back and then called the police, and the policcame back a and then called the police, and the policcame back a fewand then called the police, and the policcame back a few days:hen called the police, and the policcame back a few days later they came back a few days later and ended up getting keys from the so in a that the landlord. so in a way that seems a worker who seems like a social worker who has gone above and
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has sort of gone above and beyond of duty, i'm not beyond the call of duty, i'm not sure they're responsible sure what they're responsible cities that cities are. it seems from that that potentially the police should up earlier. that potentially the police shori'm up earlier. that potentially the police shori'm also up earlier. that potentially the police shori'm also not up earlier. that potentially the police shori'm also not sure) earlier. that potentially the police shori'm also not sure whatier. that potentially the police shori'm also not sure what their but i'm also not sure what their sort procedures are. so i sort of procedures are. so i think would be think more would have to be known about case to be able known about this case to be able to it's any more than just to say it's any more than just a tragedy. yes. >> the of this poor >> so the mum of this poor child, has gone to child, um, has gone to the papers i'll and she's said, papers i'll be and she's said, um, clear she thinks um, made it clear she thinks really the social services are to blame and that there were failures the council and so failures from the council and so on. but we are receiving quite a lot of emails saying where was the mother in all this? is it right for her to say the social services are the ones to blame when it had been weeks since she'd seen seen her child? >> i think if social not >> look, i think if social not fair to even ask that question . fair to even ask that question. i fair to ask the i think it's fair to ask the question, it's also to question, but it's also fair to ask the question was social ask the question why was social services the first services involved in the first place? aren't place? social services aren't involved with everyone's families , so obviously there was families, so obviously there was something with i'm only something wrong with i'm only speculating, perhaps with the parenting of the mother and potentially the father , which potentially the father, which meant social services had to get involved. and that's why we have
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that extra step . so i think her that extra step. so i think her criticisms of services is criticisms of social services is fair. i think the criticisms fair. and i think the criticisms of the affair, but also of the family affair, but also one that hasn't really one thing that hasn't really been about is community. been spoken about is community. you know, were the you know, where were the neighbours well? neighbours in this as well? it just a multi layered, just seems like a multi layered, messed up thing which has happened where perhaps the state got it wrong. the family got it wrong and also the lack of community spirit perhaps in this area child area meant that this child starved at his father's starved to death at his father's dead bodies, feet . dead bodies, feet. >> it'sjust dead bodies, feet. >> it's just so tragic to think about the, the fact that he was two inches too short to reap the reach. the fridge is it's. this is the mother's description. this is the mother's description. it's heart wrenching, but suppose there wrenching, but i suppose there is a reason that this is , uh, is a reason that this is, uh, occupying such a large proportion of the public conversation right now because people do want to point a finger. um, and there is that temptation, i suppose. michael to point the finger. >> yeah. well, i think in a way, i mean, i'll say what i always
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say on this show, which i think is well funded public services tend to function a little bit better and the fact that we have you said that it's not you just said that it's not social service's fault. well, i said we know. we said we don't know. i said we don't have enough information yet so saying yet to say that. so i'm saying in terms who do we blame? in terms of who do we blame? i think you austerity. no, think you blame austerity. no, i'm blaming anyone. i'm i'm not blaming anyone. i'm saying do think if saying that i do think that if there that public there that the public services would have worked better if they had properly funded. had been properly funded. now, to finish my to me, well, let me finish my point. so i social point. so for me, i think social workers very workers always have this very difficult task front them, difficult task in front of them, which they know that the which is they know that the costs taking child away costs of taking a child away from are severe and from a family are severe and extreme, they're always extreme, and they're always trying sort of extreme, and they're always tryin(kids sort of extreme, and they're always tryin(kids in sort of extreme, and they're always tryin(kids in the sort of extreme, and they're always tryin(kids in the familiest of extreme, and they're always tryin(kids in the families inf keep kids in the families in which they are. then sometimes what that, you know, what happens is that, you know, that has tragic in that kid has a tragic end in that kid has a tragic end in that family, then suddenly that family, and then suddenly the is pointed social the finger is pointed at social services. however, the finger is pointed at social servi(you however, the finger is pointed at social servi(you you however, the finger is pointed at social servi(you you fundywever, the finger is pointed at social servi(you you fund an ver, well, you you fund an organisation will be organisation that will always be a fundamental tension within the social within social social services, within social work in particular. but i do think be trying think that we should be trying our best to give social workers everything they can have to make that decision in the most effective and support effective way, and support parents in the most effective way can. and i'm
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way that they can. and i'm hypothesising that other things way that they can. and i'm hypotquual,; that other things way that they can. and i'm hypotquual, if:hat other things way that they can. and i'm hypotquual, if they yther things way that they can. and i'm hypotquual, if they were things being equal, if they were properly would help i >> -- >> just lastly, km >> just lastly, on this aldi , >> just lastly, on this aldi, uh, i'm just trying to go through our inbox because i saw a very interesting email. i can't find it right now suggesting that perhaps too many cooks spoil the broth in a way that because the police are involved, the social services are involved, then you have the parents, of course, and decisions maybe aren't made in such a way. perhaps it's not such a way. so perhaps it's not an funding issue or an austerity issue, as we just mentioned , but issue, as we just mentioned, but more, uh, a lack of accountability or or other hazards. >> if the parents think, oh, it's okay. the social services have this, i can take my foot off the pedal. >> well, well, look, as i mentioned before, if social services are involved in a family, there's obviously something with the something going wrong with the family. think i think family. so. so i think i think the the blame does lie the probably the blame does lie more with social services and the police who are meant to step in when the family goes wrong in this specific situation. think this specific situation. i think the tragic thing the the most tragic thing about the story, in opinion , is that i
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story, in my opinion, is that i think coroners agree that he didn't die any earlier than the 29th of december, and that someone and visit the someone went to go and visit the house on the 2nd of january. so potentially, had they gone in at that time, maybe this tragedy wouldn't have happened. so maybe they need to have more powers to enter properties when they think something has gone wrong. >> let's on >> well, let's move on to another issue, because ireland is has been , uh, is a country that has been, uh, in the news a little bit , uh, in in the news a little bit, uh, in recent but potentially recent days. but potentially this one might have slipped under the radar for one of the most senior figures in china has been over in davos. and, uh , not been over in davos. and, uh, not only has he been to switzerland and one other european country has been on the list of places to visit during this davos trip from this senior figure from the chinese communist party, and that's ireland . and the that's ireland. and the connections between the republic of ireland and china have been going against the grain of many other european countries that have been pursuing divestment and divergence between the eu
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and divergence between the eu and china. and this all to led a fairly baffling comment . from fairly baffling comment. from the leader of ireland, the taoiseach leo varadkar , who said taoiseach leo varadkar, who said that he believes that there is one china and that taiwan and china are the same. um and michael walker, this confused me because leo varadkar is the taoiseach of a tech centred island that used to be part of a larger country that they split off from and would rather not join . is off from and would rather not join. is there off from and would rather not join . is there not off from and would rather not join. is there not a off from and would rather not join . is there not a slightly join. is there not a slightly embarrassing analogy that one could make between the republic of ireland and the united kingdom, and taiwan and china? well, i think i think comparing the power and wealth of britain to might be sort of to china might be sort of flattering ourselves somewhat. >> um, i mean, on this issue, i can see why sort of on the face of it, you think that sounds like, you know, he's dramatically taking the beijing line should be part line that taiwan should be part of china. but the one china policy is actually held by the
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majority of the world. so the united states acknowledges . united states acknowledges. a one china policy, but the united states, whenever they talk about that saying is that and saying that there is some strategic ambiguity there, the states always the united states would always say sovereignty say we recognise the sovereignty of they never never leave >> they never they never leave those two. do they do they say they recognise the sovereignty of taiwan? they recognise the sovereignty of ti iwan? they say so in their >> i know they say so in their original agreement. they say we acknowledge position acknowledge china's position that china and that there is only one china and that there is only one china and that china. that taiwan is part of china. now acknowledge word is now that acknowledge word is somewhat know somewhat ambiguous. i know that many , france, many countries, france, including said that taiwan including have said that taiwan is of china . obviously, is part of china. obviously, this to sort of after this goes back to sort of after the civil war saw taiwan the chinese civil war saw taiwan was sort of founded . they was sort of founded. they thought they were the real china. so it was the people who lost civil war, the lost the civil war, the nationalists lost civil nationalists who lost the civil war, taiwan and war, set up shop in taiwan and said, china. that huge bit said, we're china. that huge bit over is actually the over there is actually the breakaway . you have dispute breakaway. you have this dispute which actually continued breakaway. you have this dispute whicitodayictually continued breakaway. you have this dispute whicitodayictually ctaiwan d until today because taiwan officially called themselves the repubuc officially called themselves the republic . republic of china. >> the current >> considering the current geopolitical outlook. albee. was this a mistake from the tee shot there? >> well, i think this story is
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actually about semantics, because i think what happened was, is the taoiseach said that one china principle instead of the one china policy. and the chinese communist party uses the phrase one china principle rather than policy. and then we heard from chinese outlets that they thought as a result of him saying, one china principle. he thought that that literally meant china to. and china and taiwan should reunify, because thatis taiwan should reunify, because that is the chinese position when they say one china principle . well, i think maybe principle. well, i think maybe what he meant to say was one china policy is this not a mistake that you're going to make if you're the only country that sort of wanting roll that is sort of wanting to roll out the red carpet to china in a way that many other european countries are sort of pushing away position of the away from the position of the european that they european union, is that they accept china so accept the one china policy. so i the way in i think perhaps in the way in which described, isn't it? which he described, isn't it? i think because of the think that maybe because of the position politicians have position that politicians have taken uk, we're a bit taken in the uk, we're a bit confused. but the policy confused. but that's the policy of . of the eu. >> thank >> great. thank you. just in time. you alvin and time. thank you alvin and michael walker . now up,
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michael walker. now coming up, the rwanda bill the latest on the rwanda bill as rishi the house of rishi sunak urges the house of lords not to frustrate its passage. we'll be back in one tick. looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . good weather on gb news. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me , annie from the met with me, annie from the met office. it will be staying dry for many overnight, but it's going to be another very cold night with further risk of ice night with a further risk of ice and northern areas and snow across northern areas of scotland in particular, that snow being brought in by this snow is being brought in by this cold northerly wind is arctic air that we've had with us all week. will subtle week. there will be some subtle changes through the evening and overnight, mean that overnight, though that mean that the direction pushes to the wind direction pushes to a north so much of the north westerly. so much of the snow to in snow will start to come in across north scotland, across north western scotland, as opposed to any areas as opposed to any eastern areas of england . so it should be of england. so it should be a dry night for the bulk of the uk. plenty of clear skies, some mist and fog developing , perhaps mist and fog developing, perhaps some across wales some freezing fog across wales and central areas. but really
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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 on thursday the 18th of january, 621 channel migrants arrive in the uk . arrive in the uk. >> that's in just five days. despite horrendous weather conditions. it comes as rishi sunak urges the house of lords not to frustrate the passage of the rwanda bill, bill and the will of the democratic house, but will they listen? we'll
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speak to one in just a moment. but the king is fine and looking forward to getting back to work. >> well, that's according to queen camilla anyway. it comes as prince william visits his wife in hospital. but who is stepping in for the senior royals as they take this time off and tragedy in skegness? >> two year old toddler bronson battersbee was two inches too short to reach for food as he was left starving in his dad's house over christmas. his mum has revealed. questions are being asked of social services and the police . but should the and the police. but should the mother have checked in on her . mother have checked in on her. son to? >> this question of the house of lords is huge . the prime lords is huge. the prime minister spoke to the nation in a press conference this morning, basically with one listen, with one, one message for slow. the democratic house. use your
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unelected pass the bill. do you think they'll listen? >> no , no. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> well that's that then . >> well that's that then. >> well that's that then. >> i don't think they'll listen because i think they will feel it is their moral duty to fix this bill, or if they don't agree with it, fundamentally , agree with it, fundamentally, morally, ethically, whatever it is , they will want to elongate is, they will want to elongate this process, prolong this process ? yes, for as long as process? yes, for as long as possible . and as you mentioned possible. and as you mentioned before, when we were talking to katherine forster, our political correspondent, you said they could try and delay this until election . and as we know, if the election. and as we know, if the if labour get into power, they will do away with this bill in its entirety . its entirety. >> so hang on, emily, what's your position on this? you were your position on this? you were you were you were saying, oh, it's tragedy more people you were you were saying, oh, it's trebel.( more people you were you were saying, oh, it's trebel. and more people you were you were saying, oh, it's trebel. and nowre people you were you were saying, oh, it's trebel. and now you'reyle didn't rebel. and now you're saying labour might junk this bill? a tragedy. you bill? that's a tragedy. do you like or not? i didn't like the bill or not? i didn't say it was a tragedy that people didn't rebel. >> i said that you're going >> i said that if you're going to about rebelling on a to talk about rebelling on a bill you're going to it
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bill and you're going to make it a huge thing in the media and also going to damage own also going to damage your own leaders you leaders position, then you probably shouldn't vote for the bill. >> yeah, well, there you have it. we'll get much more on this. and crucially, i think it does. i think i think you've explained that. but crucially, we'll be speaking member of the speaking to a member of the house of and a flavour house of lords and get a flavour of the mood is like on the of what the mood is like on the red that's after your red benches. that's after your headunes red benches. that's after your headlines nora headlines with sophia nora forster . forster. >> thanks, tom. good afternoon . >> thanks, tom. good afternoon. it's 2:02. i'm sophia wenzler le in the gb news room. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing, and pass his rwanda bill, designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers. the third reading passed the commons unamended last night, with a majority of 44 dozen of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it. rishi sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely unhed shows his party is completely united and says peers must now support the legislation as an
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urgent national priority . urgent national priority. >> there is now only one question will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people , as expressed by the people, as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that. on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that . we have it's as simple as that. we have a plan and the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down, not just down by a bit, down by a third, compared to crossings in the year before . to crossings in the year before. >> meanwhile, shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock criticised the prime minister and his party's infighting over the prime minister's performance at the press conference today was bizarre , very difficult to was bizarre, very difficult to see what the point of that press conference really was, he is a weak minister leading weak prime minister leading a deeply divided party. >> we've seen a shambolic warring factions in the conservative party over the last two days on the rwanda bill and the prime minister's plan to
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stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats. >> it means 621 people have arrived in the uk so far this yean arrived in the uk so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history . we want who do recent history. we want who do we want to ? we want to? >> what do we want ? where do we >> what do we want? where do we want it now ? want it now? >> schools have closed, public transport is limited , and transport is limited, and hospitals are offering only christmas day level services as teachers, transport and healthcare workers walk off the job, their demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker they've called for the northern ireland secretary's intervention to release funds, but chris heaton harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one. two trade unionists explained why they're on the picket line .
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picket line. >> there has been underfunding and lack of pay over many years. we've had a haemorrhaging of skilled workers throughout the pubuc skilled workers throughout the public services , so this is public services, so this is a pay public services, so this is a pay dispute on the face of it. but also it's protection of the resources of public services. >> well, the teaching profession has received no pay uplift for the last three years. while we've watched successive pay increases being made to colleagues across every other jurisdiction in these islands, teaching profession cannot be treated in northern ireland as second class citizens to everywhere else on these islands i >> -- >> the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital, where she's recovering from abdominal surgery . prince abdominal surgery. prince william was seen leaving the private london clinic this afternoon. princess catherine, said to be doing well after her planned procedure on tuesday , planned procedure on tuesday, but it's expected she'll stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile the queen has said the king is fine and is looking forward to getting back to work as he awaits treatment for an enlarged prostate . the 75 year enlarged prostate. the 75 year old monarch says he's keen to go
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pubuc old monarch says he's keen to go public with the condition to encourage other to encourage other men to get checked. has carried out checked. the us has carried out another round of strikes on iranian backed houthi targets in yemen . 14 sites were hit with yemen. 14 sites were hit with the military saying they posed an imminent threat to navy ships in the red sea region. it's after rebels struck an american owned passing through the owned vessel passing through the gulf aden yesterday . it's the gulf of aden yesterday. it's the fourth set of us strikes in under a week with washington also relisting the houthis as terrorists . us, forces terrorists. us, uk forces were not involved in the latest action and ticket offers a train tickets cost more at train stations , where the consumer stations, where the consumer group finding passengers are paying group finding passengers are paying twice as much as those that go online, which says same day tickets were particularly high and the best value fares were unavailable or were either unavailable or hidden among on many hidden among options on many machine trains. the study found a journey from northampton to cardiff cost £107 from a machine, but was £43 online. plans to close hundreds of rail ticket offices in england were scrapped in november after pubuc
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scrapped in november after public uproar and snow and ice warnings remain in place across parts of the uk , with the cold parts of the uk, with the cold snap expected to continue into the weekend. the met office has issued an amber alert for northern scotland, saying power cuts and travel disruption are possible. some areas could also see an extra 15 to 20cm of snow. much of the uk saw temperatures fall below freezing overnight, with some regions dropping to as low as —11. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back to tom and . emily tom and. emily >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:08 and the prime minister has urged peers to do the right thing and back his rwanda legislation as he prepares for a showdown with the house of lords following his victory in the commons last night. >> yes, he has already warned been warned that his flagship
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policy will face strong opposition from peers . and opposition from peers. and speaking at a press conference in downing street earlier today, he appealed to them. he said it's now time for the lords to pass this bill, this is an urgent national priority . but urgent national priority. but will they listen well ? shall we will they listen well? shall we cross to our political correspondent, cathy foster? cathy catherine, thank you very much for joining cathy catherine, thank you very much forjoining us. so that's much for joining us. so that's the question, isn't it? will the house of lords let the bill pass through swiftly or will this be clogged up in the system for quite a while yet by, by if i had to answer in one word, i would say no , no, they will not would say no, no, they will not let this bill pass swiftly. >> rishi sunak has won one battle that's getting his bill through the house of commons quite comfortably. as it turned out , despite quite comfortably. as it turned out, despite all quite comfortably. as it turned out , despite all the quite comfortably. as it turned out, despite all the rebellions by mps on the right of the party. but to be honest, he was always going to face a bigger battle in the house of lords and thatis battle in the house of lords and that is because the government
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does not have a majority in the house of lords. does not have a majority in the house of lords . quite the house of lords. quite the reverse, and there are many , reverse, and there are many, many lords with grave reservations about about this legislation. so so rather than calls to toughen it up that we've had as it's passed through the commons, the likely hood now is that what we will see is attempts to soften it and prominent members of the lords, such as lord carlile, a barrister , the crossbench peer , barrister, the crossbench peer, saying this morning that he sees the government are basically on a step towards totalitarianism with this bill there's plenty of lawyers in the house of lords really , really concerned that really, really concerned that this bill might place the government on the wrong side of international law and determined to try to do something about it. also, the government doesn't control the time table, so they're not in control of when it first comes to the lords . it first comes to the lords. probably a few weeks from now.
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nor are they in control of how long it will take. it's likely to ping pong back between the lords and the commons for several weeks. they will try to soften it at and who knows what state it will be in by the end. and rishi sunak at the press conference this morning, trying to sound upbeat but saying this is now up to the lords urging them to do the right thing, saying they must not frustrate the will of the people. it's very reminiscent of the brexit battles , this language, isn't battles, this language, isn't it? but of course , many lords it? but of course, many lords feeling they have a moral duty to do their best to look at this legislation very carefully. and if they don't think it's right, they will try to amend it. so another huge hurdle and bear in mind, even when it gets through the lords, we don't know, do we? whether the courts might seek again to interfere . again to interfere. >> well, katherine forster thank you very much for that overview. let's dive into that politics
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with a conservative member of the house of lords, now lords jonathan marland. lord marland, thank so much for joining thank you so much for joining us. i suppose the big question is what all authority do your colleagues in the house of lords believe they have in terms of delaying this legislation, in terms of amending this legislation? do they have the brass neck for it ? brass neck for it? >> well, tom, i think i'm slightly redundant now because catherine has put it so well. >> the whole nuances of what's going on in the house of lords , going on in the house of lords, uh, that it's hard for me to put it any better. >> rather than to reemphasize what she says. you know, the conservatives do not have a majority in the lords. >> this is obviously fundamental to, uh, conservative policy . to, uh, conservative policy. >> uh, i suspect most conservatives will vote with it, but we do not have a majority. >> uh, there are a lot of lawyers. >> lawyers love to go through the detail. >> truth, there is detail >> and in truth, there is detail thatis >> and in truth, there is detail that is not, um, uh , satisfied yet. >> uh , particularly the what if
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>> uh, particularly the what if scenario of when , uh, a refugee scenario of when, uh, a refugee or an immigrant goes gets to rwanda . rwanda. >> uh, what are the protections they have in the courts? >> there ? >> there? >> there? >> what is the legal procedure when they get there? what rights of do they have? all of appeal do they have? all those sorts of things the those sorts of things which the government that government have volunteered that , uh, already that going to , uh, already that are going to be mental to this, uh , be funded mental to this, uh, uh, bill but have done nothing about it . about it. >> and that is the job of the lords is to ensure that the loose ends of the bill are tightened up . tightened up. >> so i suspect there'll be a lot of debate around that. i sit on the international treaties committee. >> so i'm slightly, um . >> so i'm slightly, um. >> so i'm slightly, um. >> well, obviously i know what's going on. we've had several committee meetings on this subject . we hope to ratify this subject. we hope to ratify this bill subject to these particular issues . and lord goldsmith will issues. and lord goldsmith will be asking some who's chairman of the committee will be asking some probing questions on monday, so you'll be able to get a feel of how this is going on
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monday and the direction of travel. uh, interesting. >> uh, lord morland, do you have any temptation to say so? >> it's kind of you to say so. >>— >> it's kind of you to say so. >> do you have any temptation yourself tinker this yourself to tinker with this bill? would to see it bill? would you like to see it toughened if you had the toughened up if you had the choice, could? choice, if you could? >> uh, no , i have my, my, um, >> uh, no, i have my, my, um, suggestions will all be made within the committee . um, i'm within the committee. um, i'm one of the few people, by the way, in the lords who's been to rwanda . uh, way, in the lords who's been to rwanda. uh, in way, in the lords who's been to rwanda . uh, in the last few rwanda. uh, in the last few years, i've been twice in the last couple of years. their chair in office of the commonwealth. it's an amazing country by the way. it's incredibly clean. the, um, the law is that, uh, every citizen of rwanda has to go and clean the common parts every saturday for 2 to 3 hours. um, at and it's a very, very secure and safe place . so, um, i'm a great safe place. so, um, i'm a great fan of the country. as a matter of fact. um, and i feel there's always quite a lot of ignorance
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about these, uh, things with people speaking on this subject because they've not been to the country and not seen how it actually operates . actually operates. >> often when we look at the house of lords, it my contribution would be really on that particular front. um often when we look at the red benches of the house of lords, it doesn't seem like it's the most vigorous chamber. very often your colleagues might appear sort of dozy, sleepy in a xanax induced stupor sometimes. is there really , uh, going to be there really, uh, going to be that much of a fight with the government, or is this just sort of a chamber that's really past its and to some extent, its prime? and to some extent, do all of these debates lead to that age old argument of whether or not the lords should exist at all? >> well, i think you you underestimate what actually goes on, which is most unlike you, because you're a great observer of these things. i've just done a series of, uh , of podcasts
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a series of, uh, of podcasts called peer review , which i called peer review, which i flagged now, if i may, which is interviewing peers about their lives and the extraordinary talent that exists in the in the lords. uh uh, of depth of knowledge and experience. and i think you mustn't underestimate that. there's a lot more depth and experience in the lords. i exclude myself from this. of course, the, uh than there is in the commons . and when it comes the commons. and when it comes to bills , they need to be to bills, they need to be properly and thoroughly looked at. and, uh, i, i, i hope my colleagues in the, on all sides of the chamber will look at it thoroughly , uh, make the thoroughly, uh, make the necessary adjustments which i'm sure the prime minister will acquiesce to if they're fair and reasonable , and then pass it reasonable, and then pass it through . i think the overriding through. i think the overriding concern. and, tom, you've probably got the same , is how is probably got the same, is how is this going to work once the bills pass through ? and that's, bills pass through? and that's, uh, another subject, isn't it? but of course, uh, jonathan, if i may call you by your first name, um , if it gets through the
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name, um, if it gets through the lords, if it passes through the absolute pleasure to be called emily by my first name. thank you . um if the emily by my first name. thank you. um if the bill emily by my first name. thank you . um if the bill passes you. um if the bill passes through the lords in a in a similar shape to which it is in now , of course, we still have now, of course, we still have the issue of the courts. >> how it is interpreted, how the law is interpreted, the issue of international law to something that suella braverman robert jenrick have talked about , the appeal process and so on and so forth. what is your feeling about whether this bill will actually have the desired effect . in practice? because effect. in practice? because let's remember, that's what the pubuc let's remember, that's what the public care about. they want to know whether it will work . know whether it will work. >> well , as i know whether it will work. >> well, as i said earlier, emily, if i may call you emily, um, it's, uh, it's , um, uh , that um, it's, uh, it's, um, uh, that remains to be seen. i think the lords should , uh, um, lords should, uh, um, concentrate its mind on the
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detail , which concentrate its mind on the detail, which is what it's very good at. uh, it shouldn't play politics with it. it should concentrate on the detail and then , uh, pass it back to the then, uh, pass it back to the commons and to the government and, uh , they can then work out and, uh, they can then work out how they can put this bill into practice. i do give my congratulations, though, to the prime minister. he did set his stall out and said he was going to get this bill done. and, uh, most people in the media, and i'm you two are accepted, i'm sure you two are accepted, thought would very rough thought it would be a very rough ride. actually, he it ride. actually, he got it through very substantial through with a very substantial majority. uh, and, and, um, there wasn't the rebellion that people felt there would be an and, uh, you know, this is a very important cornerstone to the 4 or 5 issues which he wanted to fix. inflation uh, interest rates, taxation . and interest rates, taxation. and immigration and, and i give him credit that he's on the road to trying to fix it. and if institutions in the country , uh, institutions in the country, uh, want to frustrate it, then then,
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um, they may pay the consequences as well . consequences as well. >> it's a stark situation, lord marland, jonathan marland, thank you so much for talking us through what's going happen , through what's going to happen, particularly on monday. but indeed, the weeks months indeed, in the weeks and months to with potential ping pong to come with potential ping pong parliamentary ping pong between to come with potential ping pong paricommons ping pong between to come with potential ping pong paricommons and] pong between to come with potential ping pong paricommons and the ng between to come with potential ping pong paricommons and the lords:ween to come with potential ping pong paricommons and the lords ?een the commons and the lords? >> yes, thank you very much. now we're about to speak to our north—west of england reporter for your reaction on the rwanda bill and everything that's going on. but we're going to bring you some breaking news just now. train drivers on lner will strike for five days from february the 5th. in the long running dispute over pay. their union, aslef has just announced . union, aslef has just announced. so yes, train drivers on lner will strike for five days from february the fifth in their long running pay dispute. their union, aslef has announced. we'll have more updates for you , we'll have more updates for you, but let's now cross to lee. >> a red wall seat in greater manchester won by the conservatives in 2019. gb news
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nonh conservatives in 2019. gb news north west of england reporter sophie roperjoins us. and sophie, you've been speaking to people on the ground and what do they make of it all? >> i have indeed, tom, good afternoon to you both here in leigh this morning. i've been speaking to people, asking them about trust in the government in terms of this key issue of immigration. >> of course, lee, one of those classic red wall seats up here in the north west. it wasn't until 2019, the general election , that they swung to the conservative party for the very first time. and now that we're heading into this general election year , lee is one of election year, lee is one of those constituencies that's going to be key to both parties to see if they can swing it back one way or another . now there's one way or another. now there's a really interesting poll. this morning published in the times done by yougov, that found that only 35% of british voters had trust in current prime minister rishi sunak to sort out immigration. so this morning i asked people here in this key
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constituency of lee whether or not they agreed with that, if they had trust in rishi sunak to sort out immigration. >> and here's what they had to tell me. >> no, not really . >> um, no, not really. >> um, no, not really. >> why not? um just because they've promised other things and they've never really followed up? >> i don't think so. why not? >> i don't think so. why not? >> um, well, they've they've tried to send people back to africa to. and they've been stopped by law, haven't they? >> so people will keep coming in. uh, they won't , they can't in. uh, they won't, they can't stop the boats. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> tell me, why not? >> tell me, why not? >> why not? i many chances of the ad . how many chances , you the ad. how many chances, you know. well they're obviously trying to push this rwanda bill through at the minute. >> do you think they'll be able to accomplish that? >> never will. >> no, they never will. >> no, they never will. >> trust any government >> i don't trust any government to tackle the immigration at the moment. >> not? moment. >> i not? moment. >> i thinkyt? moment. >> i think it's too difficult to tackle not one country in the in europe has managed to tackle it. >> some really , really >> some really, really interesting views. there it's
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quite clear that trust when it comes to immigration is really rather thin on the ground here in leigh. and that's perhaps a reflection of the rest of the nation. when you take that yougov poll into consideration , yougov poll into consideration, only just over a third of british voters trusting rishi sunak to get the job on immigration done. so as i say, as we come into the general election, it will be really interesting to see, especially interesting to see, especially in key constituencies like leigh, whether or not they'll they'll move back to labour because they feel that that party may be able to do a better job on stopping the boats and sorting if rishi sorting immigration or if rishi sunak will be able convince sunak will be able to convince voters in places like leigh that actually sticking with the conservative party is what's best in terms of dealing with the of immigration. the issue of immigration. >> well, sophie reaper, thank you very much for those voices from the north west. and i suppose it does just underscore underline how the action is now needed more than words. just bit. >> yes . but bit. >> yes. but coming up, we'll be going to skegness ness as lincolnshire police refers
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protest at the freezing of pay increases. that's due to the continued breakdown of the region's power sharing government . it. government. it. >> yes, this comes against a backdrop of strong political uncertainty in northern ireland as the deadline for restoring power sharing in the region looms large . large, right? looms large. large, right? >> let's go to stormont and speak to gb news. northern ireland reporter dougie beattie dougie, you've changed location. please update . us please update. us >> well, i've changed because all all the rallies in the centre of belfast are over at this minute in time. centre of belfast are over at this minute in time . uh, and, this minute in time. uh, and, uh, what is what has happened here? is that the public sector has gone on strike. they are very much against the pay freezing that they have had. and uh, they are saying that the secondary of state has acknowledged that the money is there. they have acknowledged that northern ireland was underfunded, but they are very angry at him because he won't release that money unless unless these institutions behind us are up and running. now, most people
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think it's just the public sector that are being sort of self—centred about it. but it's not, of course, because they haven't had any real party in about 13 years, because even when the institutions here behind us were up and running well, they still didn't give them those pay rises. other things took priority and i spoke to two members of the union earlier on. >> there has been under funding and lack of pay over many years. we've had a haemorrhaging of skilled workers who are out of the service. so this is a the public service. so this is a pay the public service. so this is a pay the face of it, pay dispute on the face of it, but also it's protection of the resources of public services. >> well, the teaching profession has received no pay uplift for the last three years. while we've watched successive pay increases being made to colleagues every other colleagues across every other jurisdiction in these islands, the profession cannot the teaching profession cannot be treated in northern ireland as second class citizens to everywhere else on these islands i >> -- >> well, you can hear the frustration in those civil
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servants and public sector workers. there they are very keen that stormont gets up and running, but they are most keen that the fiscal floor gets put into northern ireland and some sort of accountable party and ministers has to take place before those pay raises come into place . into place. >> now, dougie, there is some consternation over the position of particularly the democratic unionist party in northern ireland, who voted against the rwanda bill in parliament last night. what was their argument against it . against it. >> well, it's quite simple. i mean , the talks have been going mean, the talks have been going on here at the moment to try and get this place up and running behind us because they disagree with the framework document and this is one of the points that they're trying to nail down. we are still held inside the echr. we're still there inside the european courts. so the pieces of the rwanda bill that were taken out were all relevant to
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the echr. so now what has happenedis the echr. so now what has happened is out of 78 cities in the uk , the belfast proposal to the uk, the belfast proposal to the uk, the belfast proposal to the population is now at number two, with immigration, because what you are now seeing is an open border with the republic of ireland . there the immigrants ireland. there the immigrants are flooding in there and then coming up into this part of the uk , and that means that uk, and that means that passports controls will ultimately put in to british citizens to travel into britain. you and i spoke about this no less than two years ago, tom. i remember having this discussion with you when keir starmer was addressing the irish consulate . addressing the irish consulate. so now it is really coming to pass. and this is one of the things that is really troubling the dup , uh, in northern ireland the dup, uh, in northern ireland and coming back to talks here, a fear of those passport checks between northern ireland and great britain, i suppose it's important to say that the government denies that's what might happen. >> but of course, that is a real and present fear of the dup.
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dougie beattie thank so much dougie beattie thank you so much for bringing us those two crucial there from crucial issues. there from outside sunny and outside a rather sunny and splendid stormont. outside a rather sunny and spl(beautiful'mont. outside a rather sunny and spl(beautiful backdrop. >> beautiful backdrop. >> beautiful backdrop. >> yeah, i have to say, i wish the scottish parliament looked looked like that. >> very building >> it's very ugly building architecture, coming architecture, but coming up, a headteacher defended her headteacher has defended her decision to ban school prayers in the court . was she right in the high court. was she right to do so? we'll be discussing that after your headlines with sophia . sophia. >> thanks, emily. it's 230. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill, designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers . the third of asylum seekers. the third reading passed the commons unamended last night with a majority of 44, and dozens of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it . rishi sunak insists the vote it. rishi sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely united, and says peers must now
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support the legislation as urgent national priority . the urgent national priority. the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats. it means 621 people have arrived in the uk so far this yean arrived in the uk so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history. schools have closed. public transport is limited and hospitals are offering only christmas day level services as teachers, transport and healthcare workers walk off the job. their demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretary's intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one.the saying the matter is a devolved one. the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital,
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where she's recovering from abdominal surgery . prince abdominal surgery. prince william was seen leaving the private london clinic this afternoon . princess catherine, afternoon. princess catherine, said to be doing well after her planned procedure on tuesday, but it's expected she'll stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile while the queen has said the king is fine and is looking forward to getting back to work as he awaits treatment for an enlarged prostate . and for an enlarged prostate. and some breaking news, the aslef union has announced train drivers will go on strike for five days next month . lner five days next month. lner drivers will walk out from february the 5th in their long running dispute over pay. the latest action is in addition to a series of walkouts against train operators across england. previously announced by the union , and you can get more on union, and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gb news.com . our website at gb news.com. thanks sophia. >> now lincolnshire police has
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referred itself to the police watchdog after two year old bronson battersbee was found dead alongside his father kenneth , at their home in kenneth, at their home in skegness. yes this comes after it emerged the force was contacted on two separate occasions by lincolnshire county council social worker, who got no answer when they tried knocking on the door of mr battersby's home. it's also emerged that bronson was tragically just two inches too small to reach a fridge full of leftovers that could have saved his life. so for more on this, let's speak to gb news. >> east midlands reporter will hollis . will hollis. will >> yes, well, it's been described as a tragic incident by lincoln shire county council and the children services department, which is ultimately responsible for looking after the vulnerable children like bronson. it was here in prince alfred avenue in skegness , the alfred avenue in skegness, the seaside town in lincolnshire,
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where bronson , a two year old where bronson, a two year old toddler, lived and died beside his father. it was around christmas time that bronson was last seen alive . five but last seen alive. five but somewhere between then and the end . of the 9th of january, that end. of the 9th of january, that something went horribly wrong. we know that ken, a 60 year old man , died of a suspected heart man, died of a suspected heart attack, but somewhere between then, bronson was left without food or water. unknown to social services and the police , there services and the police, there were a couple of times when bronson could have been accessed on occasions where social services had . tried to get an services had. tried to get an answer from from the home on both of those occasions, police were made aware that there had been no answer. now the lincolnshire county council children's department has ordered a rapid review, will find out what might come of that
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within the next two weeks. meanwhile lincolnshire police, which said that these deaths are not being treated as suspicious aukus has referred itself to the iopc. that's the police watchdog, which is something thatis watchdog, which is something that is a standard procedure whenever there is a death that could potentially have been preventable in relation to polices in involvement with a case now , at a time like this, case now, at a time like this, we rightly look at the processes of public services involved in looking after vulnerable children. but in lincoln today, we've also been asking people about the wider implications of about the wider implications of a british society where children can die all alone over christmas i >>i -- >> i don't emma emu >> i don't think it seems to have gone wrong. it's just an unfortunate set of circumstances. from what i hear, nobody knew that the father even had any hill condition, and i think the social worker went and she tried to get there as much as she could. and the thing is, as she could. and the thing is, as i said, also , i know that as i said, also, i know that they haven't the right to
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they haven't got the right to break i think she did the break in. so i think she did the best the best that she could in the circumstances. tragic , but circumstances. it is tragic, but it's just unfortunate . it's just unfortunate. >> i think it's a really difficult situation in the sense that social services have been put through it, haven't they, over the last few years is about not intervening long enough . i not intervening long enough. i think in general people see an awful lot going on and they are frightened to do anything. so i think somebody should have actually perhaps broken down the doon >> there more people who >> there are more people who perhaps have had perhaps should have had something to do with it. >> do know mean? >> do you know what i mean? >> do you know what i mean? >> were neighbours? >> where were the neighbours? >> where were the neighbours? >> were where were the >> where were the where were the rest the family? >> where were the where were the rest ihe family? >> where were the where were the rest i don'tnily? >> where were the where were the rest i don't think it is just >> so i don't think it is just down to social services or the police . after vulnerable police looking. after vulnerable people that are most important thing really. >> the police obviously >> and the police obviously they're overstretched because they're overstretched because they staff. same with they have no staff. same with social services. they're very overstretched, on overstretched, but they focus on silly friend silly things. i have a friend who's child , uh, he's who's got a child, uh, he's separated from his dad. they only see him once a week and, you know, he comes back with bruises and stuff. so socials don't really look at it as they should do. they just go, well ,
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should do. they just go, well, it's parents. they have to see their . so a lot of the time their kids. so a lot of the time i think they step when i think they don't step in when they and they just i think they don't step in when theyof and they just i think they don't step in when theyof brush and they just i think they don't step in when theyof brush it and they just i think they don't step in when theyof brush it underhey just i think they don't step in when theyof brush it under thejust sort of brush it under the carpet and leave it to there. so >> well, the sun newspaper has spoken to bronson's mum , sarah, spoken to bronson's mum, sarah, and she puts the blame squarely on the social service provided by lincolnshire county council. and in the coming weeks, we will hear their response from their rapid review as to what happened and if processes need to be toughened up. lots of people want to hear those that review those answers very, very quickly will hollis, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest there from skegness . there from skegness. >> yes. well, up , should >> yes. well, coming up, should schools be secular? we're asking this as one headteacher, a case has been brought to court because she tried to ban, she wanted to ban , she did ban wanted to ban, she did ban prayers in in schools. should schools be secular? should you be able to pray in your school?
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the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news. >> well, the prime minister said this morning that the house of lords should not frustrate the will of the people. the will of the house of commons and ergo the house of commons and ergo the will of the people when it comes to rwanda bill. but will the lords play game? probably not those two things are >> those two things are synonymous. the will the synonymous. the will of the commons of the
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commons and the will of the people. well is the rwanda bill, the will of the people ? the will of the people? >> us know. gb views at gb >> let us know. gb views at gb news. com let's speak to news. com but let's speak to journalist at novara media, michael and broadcaster michael walker and broadcaster albie get their hot albie amankona to get their hot take on everything that's going on.the take on everything that's going on. the prime minister i'll be asking the house of lords to not frustrate his bill. what are the chances of that happening? >> well, it all just reminds me of brexit a bit and i just thought the rebellion last night, compared to some of the brexit rebellions we saw under theresa may and she said what a sad little rebellion . 11 mps sad little rebellion. 11 mps voted against the government last night . voted against the government last night. brendan clarke—smith, who resigned with lee anderson as the deputy chair of the conservative party voted for the bill. i think the tory right has been completely rudderless since steve baker joined the government, and those were days where we saw those were the days where we saw those great brexit defeats, defeats dunng great brexit defeats, defeats during theresa may's premiership i >> -- >> so hang on, i'll be in the initial call. votes on the amendments to the bill. you got
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rebellions of 60 mps, but the 11 were the ones that counted on the third reading. but on the, on the, on on the committee stage, rebellions of 60 given historical precedence. if we ignore brexit for a second, that's a large rebellion. i think to some extent we get miscalibrated because of the brexit, rebellions were the largest rebellions in the history of the house of commons. >> but a rebellion of 11 at third reading was not the way that it has been reported was. if they were, that was going to be a rebellion of 60 and that that might be because it was overreported. but a rebellion of 11 not a significant number 11 is not a significant number of people. for of people. it's enough for a football this was not football team. this was not a significant rebellion. and i think that if the if the tory right wants to get things done properly , they need to wargame properly, they need to wargame these little bit these situations a little bit more so they don't look so silly . a vote . in the aftermath of a vote like night , . in the aftermath of a vote like night, michael, like last night, michael, a little pathetic, puny rebellion. >> well, i've been . you said >> well, i've been. you said that lee anderson voted for it, didn't he? actually abstain because he embarrassed? because he felt embarrassed? because him
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because someone giggled at him in no lobby brendan in the in the no lobby brendan clarke—smith, voted for it. clarke—smith, uh, voted for it. >> lee anderson abstained because someone giggled at him when he fell upset about that. >> i think not giggling. uh, >> um, i think not giggling. uh, i mean, i have to say, i've sort of stopped following the parliamentary wrangling when it comes to this because it doesn't matter. you know, everyone accepts that the rwanda policy isn't going to work. right. you've got it could come into force. >> that's your definition of everyone there. because the prime minister at prime minister's questions on wednesday a ream of wednesday listed off a ream of people of senior judges, of a former court judge of former supreme court judge of talking about you're talking about different things. talking about you're talking aboso different things. talking about you're talking aboso there'st things. of will >> so there's one issue of will flights ever take off rwanda? flights ever take off to rwanda? now accept that's perfectly now i accept that's perfectly possible. this have any possible. will this have any effect whatsoever small boat effect whatsoever on small boat crossings? why would it not? crossings? no. why would it not? why why would it why would people pay people smugglers thousands cross the thousands of pounds to cross the channel going end channel if they're going to end up country? up in the wrong country? >> so it would work if you >> well, so it would work if you were to send 100% people who were to send 100% of people who crossed rwanda. were to send 100% of people who crorthat's rwanda. were to send 100% of people who crorthat's part rwanda. were to send 100% of people who crorthat's part of rwanda. were to send 100% of people who crorthat's part of anyone's. >> that's not part of anyone's plan. so the plan is send plan. so the plan is to send
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about the people who cross about 1% of the people who cross the rwanda. if the channel to rwanda. now, if you have crossed the channel on the channel to rwanda. now, if y(smalla crossed the channel on the channel to rwanda. now, if y(small boat,;ed the channel on the channel to rwanda. now, if y(small boat, you've channel on the channel to rwanda. now, if y(small boat, you've alreadyl on a small boat, you've already taken of risks. you've taken a number of risks. you've risked life one, and risked your life for one, and you've from much. you've probably come from much. you've middle you've probably come from middle east or north africa or wherever. have taken wherever. so you will have taken some to get to the some huge risks to get to the uk. a 1% chance getting sent some huge risks to get to the ui> because, walker, you're sounbecausee suella braverman >> because, walker, you're soun because thisella braverman >> because, walker, you're soun because this wasiraverman >> because, walker, you're soun because this was more man >> because, walker, you're soun because this was more or n now because this was more or less what she was saying as she was, uh, joining in these rebellions yesterday and the day before , saying that unless you before, saying that unless you have a steady stream of flight after flight after flight and a and a large chance of being sent to rwanda, it won't work to some extent . even though you might extent. even though you might disagree with the policy. do you agree with her analysis? >> well, as far as i understood, there now is more about can any take off, right? because she's
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upset about sort of the supreme court intervening or the european intervening. european judges intervening. and even if there were no interventions from these courts, the rwanda the agreement with rwanda is that people are the agreement with rwanda is that to people are the agreement with rwanda is that to go people are the agreement with rwanda is that to go over people are the agreement with rwanda is that to go over there. ple are the agreement with rwanda is that to go over there. so are the agreement with rwanda is that to go over there. so it's going to go over there. so it's not the courts stopping that happening. that not the courts stopping that hapvery1g. that not the courts stopping that hapvery impractical that not the courts stopping that hapvery impractical to that it's very impractical to send people a very people to a very farage government, says that the scheme is although is uncapped, although you're right, terms right, in terms of the accommodation been, uh, accommodation that's been, uh, identified moment, identified at the moment, they're going to be under they're hardly going to be under loads accommodation loads and loads of accommodation before loads and loads of accommodation befit's going to be i think the >> it's going to be i think the idea is that they were going to ramp up from hundreds to ramp it up from hundreds to thousands do thousands and look, i do actually think the plan actually think the rwanda plan could actually think the rwanda plan couthe argument the >> the argument that the government they did government uses is that they did not send 100% of albanian, of albanian wannabe refugees back to albania. they just sent a few to albania. they just sent a few to begin with. and then it acts as a deterrent . and now we've as a deterrent. and now we've seen we've seen small boats crossings drop by a third. and actually, i think beyond this rwanda skirmish , the rwanda skirmish, the conservatives actually have quite to tell at quite a good story to tell at the moment. small boat crossings are for first time, are down for the first time, year doesn't stand year on year. it doesn't stand up scrutiny, because up to scrutiny, but because inflation is halved, have inflation is halved, we have we have competent
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have an incredibly competent home and security here at home and security editor here at gb news, mark white, and he's been on the ground and in france and also in dover, speaking to people who know exactly what's going on in albania are changing their to the uk firstly their route to the uk firstly and also the numbers that have gone down have gone down pretty much because of weather conditions and because of and because of price gouging of 2023. was bad weather. 2023. that was bad weather. look, migrant crossings were down a third last year. are you seriously saying, emily, that the weather was so bad the the weather was so bad in the whole of 2023? the weather was so bad in the wh(let's 2023? the weather was so bad in the wh(let's see 53? the weather was so bad in the wh(let's see what happens this >> let's see what happens this year meant the crossings came. just 350 8 boats, 7 or 8 just seen 350 or 8 boats, 7 or 8 boats in just the past couple of days. so clearly this problem is very much still there. and whether the numbers go up a little or down a little, we have to see a trend, don't we? more than have to see a than a little. we have to see a trend emerge. >> well, shall we park that one there? there another there? because there is another big has popped over big issue that has popped over the news this week. and that is the news this week. and that is the question of whether schools should be secular. this is , uh,
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should be secular. this is, uh, focusing in on the michaela academy, uh, a free school that is run by someone known as britain's strictest headteacher, katharine birbalsingh ing, um, who has said there can't be prayer rooms in her school that people can't take out time for, for muslim prayer or indeed for any other prayer. >> well, hang on, what actually was happening was that a number of muslim pupils were praying in the playground openly. so presumably , um, getting onto the presumably, um, getting onto the ground and praying or bringing out mats and praying, and she put an end to this and one student or their family has brought this as a, as a to , case brought this as a, as a to, case to court. look i think this is an interesting story because because if you actually read the reporting about it, the reasons why they stopped the praying from taking place was because of abuse that teachers were getting i >> -- >> and i m >> and i think if there's a certain activity in a school which is causing disorder in what is meant to be the strictest school in the country, then teacher
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strictest school in the country, th going teacher strictest school in the country, th going to teacher strictest school in the country, th going to put teacher strictest school in the country, th going to put end teacher strictest school in the country, th going to put end to eacher strictest school in the country, th going to put end to thatar is going to put an end to that disorder. but the question about whether be whether or not schools should be secular, think schools secular, i don't think schools should be secular , because we should be secular, because we do have religious schools in this country. i think there are secular secular secular schools. state secular schools secular. but parents schools are secular. but parents should the choice to send should have the choice to send their to a religious their children to a religious school perhaps if these school and perhaps if these muslim parents were minded muslim parents were so minded about particular issue, about this particular issue, they children they should send their children to school not to a muslim school and not a secular school. >> really >> yeah, that's a really good point, like, why ? why point, michael. like, why? why are sending their are these parents sending their children to this school if they're going to upset about they're going to be upset about it relatively strict? well it being relatively strict? well well, there's a question , is well, there's a question, is this just strictness? >> and i think you've sort of made dichotomy between made this dichotomy between religious schools and secular schools, don't think schools, which i don't think quite because is quite holds because there is a secular school in the sense whereby the school does not impose any religion on you, but you might sing. so, for you might still sing. so, for example, in my east london secondary we secondary school, sort of, we sang songs about diwali, we sang songs , and we sang songs about eid, and we sang songs about eid, and we sang songs holidays songs about eid, and we sang sorwell. holidays songs about eid, and we sang sorwell. so holidays songs about eid, and we sang sorwell. so was holidays songs about eid, and we sang sorwell. so was seculardays songs about eid, and we sang sorwell. so was secular in/s as well. so it was secular in the sense nothing was imposed on us. wasn't secular in the us. but it wasn't secular in the sense you have sense that you would have in france. france you have
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france. so in france you have laicite. you're allowed any laicite. you're not allowed any kind of religious kind of expression of religious symbolism in the school whatsoever. why found whatsoever. and why i found birbalsingh comments birbalsingh sort of comments about is about this interesting is because essentially because she was essentially saying we only have one value in this school, we only have one identity, britishness. identity, which is britishness. but actually what she's but i actually think what she's doing french, right? doing is quite french, right? it is model of is the model we have of multiculturalism country multiculturalism in this country is anything is that we don't impose anything on but we do allow everyone on you, but we do allow everyone to express themselves in way to express themselves in the way they it sounds as they see fit. it sounds as though, i'm reading reports though, and i'm reading reports here from the court case, here from from the court case, from lawyers representing from the lawyers representing the there's a lot of the school that there's a lot of context to this . context to this. >> so apparently there was quite a lot of pressure between some of observant muslim of the more observant muslim pupils , um, essentially putting pupils, um, essentially putting pressure on other muslim pupils to faith more . so to observe their faith more. so pray to wear headscarves , pray more to wear headscarves, etc. there was perhaps some bullying going on as well. and katharine birbalsingh perhaps shapps, was responding to all of that and saying, you know what? this is a school. that and saying, you know what? this is a school . we're all this is a school. we're all british. let's keep the prayers. let's keep the faith out of it, which is what i mean when i say,
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if there's disorder going on in a school , a teacher, a school, a teacher, a headteacher, especially someone like catherine birbalsingh is going put an end going to want to put an end to whatever activity is causing that disorder. >> and it seemed in this instance was the praying, but instance it was the praying, but also they at the also things they do at the school the meals are school that all the meals are vegetarian everyone eat school that all the meals are ve theirian everyone eat school that all the meals are ve the same everyone eat school that all the meals are ve the same time ryone eat school that all the meals are ve the same time at ne eat school that all the meals are ve the same time at lunchtime. at the same time at lunchtime. um, any special um, no one gets any special treatment. witnesses treatment. jehovah's witnesses don't treatment. don't get special treatment. jewish students don't get special christians special treatment. christians don't special treatment. and don't get special treatment. and in instance, i think it's in this instance, i think it's right. no one's right. therefore, if no one's getting why getting special treatment, why should get should muslim children get special ? special treatment? >> i suppose, michael, to your point about this being a relatively french way of doing things to some extent that might be true, but i'm i'd be surprised if this school doesn't put on a nativity play in year which which would be obviously assumed with the french system of strict secularism. there are some things that are sort of british identity that do hold people together for, um, isn't that right to promote? >> i've got no problem with promoting britishness. it's just unclear that that's what she's doing here. i mean, because we
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doing here. i mean, because we do have a multicultural model in this we also have same this country. we also have same religion . yes. but mean, religion. uh, yes. but i mean, when goes . so i went to it. when it goes. so i went to it. so you're on her? bit so you're not on her? i'm a bit biased on this i to so you're not on her? i'm a bit bivery on this i to so you're not on her? i'm a bit bivery multicultural i to so you're not on her? i'm a bit bivery multicultural school to a very multicultural school where of religions where sort of all religions could expressed. found it could be expressed. i found it a very sort of rewarding and enriching so to me , enriching experience. so to me, it seems like this idea that religion getting into schools is causing massive problem. causing this massive problem. obviously, i don't think anything imposed, anything should be imposed, but it sound has become it does sound like it has become a problem. so what was unclear for me here the disorder for me here is if the disorder was as a result of people not being so being allowed to pray. so obviously getting obviously people sort of getting down praying in down and kneeling and praying in the me doesn't the playground to me doesn't sound particularly disorderly. the playground to me doesn't sourif particularly disorderly. the playground to me doesn't sourif itarticularly disorderly. the playground to me doesn't sourif it was jlarly disorderly. the playground to me doesn't sourif it was the .y disorderly. the playground to me doesn't sourif it was the case orderly. the playground to me doesn't sourif it was the case that ly. the playground to me doesn't sourif it was the case that the but if it was the case that the teacher said, no, you teacher sort of said, no, you must and kids got must not pray, and then kids got a upset and, you a little bit upset and, you know, , i mean, know, argued back, i mean, they're two quite different situations . situations. >> like, sounds like and this >> like, it sounds like and this is according to the court notes, it you were it sounds like what you were seeing was, um, segregation , a seeing was, um, segregation, a growing segregation because of this prayer, because of these prayer sessions going on between between muslims and non—muslim students. no teacher wants to
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see that, but don't want segregation in between. i assume this is also there are cases of pressuring other muslim children to observant of the to be more observant of the faith. you don't really want to see that, do you? >> don't want pressure. >> we don't want pressure. i mean, in terms of the separation, i mean, i'm, you know, i'm not particularly i'm quite pragmatic on this question, but in terms of segregation, presume these segregation, i presume these prayers only last sort of ten minutes so. right. so that's minutes or so. right. so that's ten minutes of segregation. the rest time you're to ten minutes of segregation. the restogether. me you're to be together. >> be honest. going to trust >> be honest. i'm going to trust the of the school the headteacher of the school who results, who has fantastic results, clearly cares about her students. uh, make that students. uh, to make that judgement. and it sounds like there's a lot of bullying going on ijust there's a lot of bullying going on i just wonder there's a lot of bullying going on ijust wonder we there's a lot of bullying going on i just wonder we were >> i just wonder if we were having this conversation and the students families in students and the families in question or question one were catholic or jewish. whether not we would jewish. whether or not we would approach the question any differently, i think perhaps i mean, no. newspapers like the mean, a no. newspapers like the telegraph have a reporting on this heavily , i this quite heavily, heavily, i think perhaps newspapers like the might report on it the telegraph might report on it slightly where slightly differently. where a different afraid different religion, i'm afraid that for. that is all we have time for. >> thank we could talk about >> but thank we could talk about this all because it's this all also because it's katharine birbalsingh and she's very katharine birbalsingh and she's venthank katharine birbalsingh and she's verthank you, michael walker >> thank you, michael walker
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albie for albie amankona. it's time for the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. >> box spoilers, sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> good afternoon . welcome to >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news. weather update with me annie from the met office. it'll be staying dry for many overnight but it's going be another very cold going to be another very cold night with a further risk of ice and snow northern areas and snow across northern areas of in particular. that of scotland in particular. that snow being brought in by this cold wind is arctic cold northerly wind is arctic air that we've had with us all week. there will be some subtle changes and changes through the evening and overnight , though that mean that overnight, though that mean that the pushes to a the wind direction pushes to a north westerly. so much of the snow come in snow will start to come in across north western scotland, as any eastern areas as opposed to any eastern areas of it should be a of england. so it should be a dry night for the bulk of the uk. plenty of clear skies, some mist and fog developing, perhaps some freezing fog across wales and central areas, but really will be down as low as minus nine in southern areas. so another very frost to another very sharp frost to start friday morning and it but
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there will be plenty of sunshine around through friday and the temperatures are a little bit higher through the day as we've got more of a westerly got a bit more of a westerly wind. a different wind wind. that's a different wind direction all direction that we've had all week, plenty of sunshine week, so plenty of sunshine through however, in the through the day. however, in the north, is some north, notice there is some quite persistent snow. there's a snow and ice warning for many northwestern of scotland, northwestern areas of scotland, and will be quite breezy and and it will be quite breezy and unpleasant there's a risk unpleasant here. there's a risk of due to snow of disruption due to snow and ice on the weekend, though there's a marked change coming to much more unsettled weather. some winds, some very strong winds, particularly on sunday, but heavy rain to come, particularly across western areas through saturday, sunday and into monday . but the temperatures will slowly start to rise. see you later . that warm feeling inside later. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news .
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block his rwanda bill. he's told them to do the right thing and not frustrate the will of the people . good luck with that one. people. good luck with that one. now if we all need a reminding of the size of the migrant crisis, it's emerged at a massive 621 people have crossed the channel in just five days as and the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital today. >> but now they've both stepped back from official duties and with the king facing surgery next week, i'll ask who will step into the royal breach and if you've got an electric car, i'm afraid i've got two bits of shockingly bad news for you, that's all coming up in your next hour . so welcome to the next hour. so welcome to the show. so we called it right yesterday . rwanda limped over yesterday. rwanda limped over the line. but will it be thwarted in the lords? i'll be joined by chris hope in a minute to discuss that. i want to hear your take on all of this. have your take on all of this. have you got any faith in this ever
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