to do the right thing and them to do the right thing and not frustrate the will of the people . good luck with that one. people. good luck with that one. now if we all need a reminding of the size of the migrant crisis, it's emerged at a massive 621 people have crossed the channel in just five days as and the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital today. >> but now they've both stepped back from official duties and with the king facing surgery next week, i'll ask who will step into the royal breach and if you've got an electric car, i'm afraid i've got two bits of shockingly bad news for you, that's all coming up in your next hour . so welcome to the next hour. so welcome to the show. so we called it right yesterday . rwanda limped over yesterday. rwanda limped over the line. but will it be thwarted in the lords? i'll be joined by chris hope in a minute to discuss that. i want to hear your take on all of this. have your take on all of this. have you got any faith in this ever happening? chance of

happening? as a more chance of me flying to the moon than a single illegal immigrant being me flying to the moon than a singleto.egal immigrant being me flying to the moon than a singleto rwanda,nigrant being me flying to the moon than a singleto rwanda, let ant being me flying to the moon than a singleto rwanda, let ant know all flown to rwanda, let me know all the usual ways. email me gbviews@gbnews.com. but first, it's gbviews@gbnews.com. but first, wsfime gbviews@gbnews.com. but first, it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines wenzler. headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the wenzler in the gb newsroom. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill. rishi sunak, who is determined to control the uk borders, spoke to officials at gatwick airport this afternoon on the third reading, designed to prevent legal challenges against the removal of asylum seekers, passed the commons night, commons unamended last night, with majority of 44. dozens of with a majority of 44. dozens of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it . mr sunak insists the vote it. mr sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely united, and says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority. there is now only one question will

the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people, as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing? >> simple as that. we >> it's as simple as that. we have a plan and the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down, not just down by a bit , down by a third, down by a bit, down by a third, compared to crossings in the year before. >> meanwhile , shadow immigration >> meanwhile, shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock criticised the prime minister and his party's infighting. >> the prime minister's performance at the press conference today was bizarre , conference today was bizarre, very difficult to see what the point of that press conference really was . he is point of that press conference really was. he is a point of that press conference really was . he is a weak prime really was. he is a weak prime minister leading a deeply divided party. we've seen a shambolic way . warring factions shambolic way. warring factions in the conservative party over the last two days on the rwanda bill . and lord marland has told bill. and lord marland has told gb news he's uncertain about the bill passing the house of lords,

as the conservatives do not have as the conservatives do not have a majority in the lords. >> this is obviously fundamental to conservative policy . i to the conservative policy. i suspect most conservatives will vote with it, but we do not have a majority. we, uh, there are a lot of lawyers . lawyers love to lot of lawyers. lawyers love to go through the detail. and in truth, there is detail that is not, um, uh , satisfied yet . not, um, uh, satisfied yet. >> and the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats. it means 621 people have arrived in the uk. so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, the aslef union has announced. train drivers will go on strike for five days next month. lner drivers will walk out from february the 5th in their long running dispute over pay. the latest action is in addition to a series of walkouts against train operators across england. previously announced by the union . tens of thousands of

union. tens of thousands of pubuc union. tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history . what walkout in recent history. what do we want it ? do we want it? >> what do we want? where do we want it now? >> schools have closed , public >> schools have closed, public transport is limited and hospitals are offering only christmas day level services as teachers transport and healthcare workers walk off the job, their demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretary's intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one. two trade unionists explained why they're on the picket line . picket line. >> there has been underfunding and lack of pay over many years. we've had a haemorrhaging of skilled workers throughout the pubuc skilled workers throughout the public services , so this is public services, so this is a pay public services, so this is a pay dispute . but on the face of pay dispute. but on the face of it, but also it's protection of the resources of public services. >> well, the teaching profession has received no pay uplift for the last three years. while

we've watched successive pay increases being made to colleagues across every other jurisdiction in these islands, the teaching profession cannot be treated in northern ireland as second class citizens to everywhere else on these islands i >> -- >> the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital, where she's recovering from abdominal surgery . prince abdominal surgery. prince william was seen leaving the private london clinic this afternoon . princess catherine afternoon. princess catherine said to be doing well after her planned procedure on tuesday , planned procedure on tuesday, but it's expected she'll stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile the queen has said the king is fine and is looking forward to getting back to work as he awaits treatment for an enlarged prostate at the 75 year old. monarch says he's keen to go condition go public with the condition to encourage other get encourage other men to get checked. speaking to some well—wishers outside windsor castle gb heard their castle, gb news heard their thoughts . well, god bless them. thoughts. well, god bless them. >> i think they're a wonderful family. um, they do this. the fantastic service of this country, and i wish them every bit, every good wish as i think

everybody does. they're a wonderful people. >> i wish them all the best. >> i wish them all the best. >> you know. >> you know. >> i hope they have good health. you know, i mean, i think they're doing a fantastic job, you know, and to come to the throne at a mature age , um, throne at a mature age, um, can't be that easy, you know, waiting in 60 odd years to become , uh, you know, monarch , become, uh, you know, monarch, you know, and, uh , i wish them you know, and, uh, i wish them all the best. >> and snow and ice warnings remain in place across parts of the uk, with the cold snap expected to continue into the weekend . weekend. >> the met office has issued an amber alert in northern scotland, saying power cuts and travel disruption are possible . travel disruption are possible. some areas could also see an extra 15 to 20cm of snow and much of the uk saw temperatures fall below freezing overnight, with some regions dropping to as low as —11 degrees. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by

saying play gb news. now it's back to . martin back to. martin >> thank you sophia and welcome to the show. you guys out there. there's only one place to start this afternoon of course, and it's the from the it's the fallout from the government's called government's win, if you called it rwanda bill last it that on the rwanda bill last night and rishi sunak has come out fighting today, told out fighting today, he's told the lords to do the the house of lords to do the right thing and not frustrate the will of the people. and once again , it reminds me of brexit. again, it reminds me of brexit. i'm joined by gb news political editor christopher hope to go over this. chris we called it right. it limped over the line. they huffed and they puffed, but they didn't blow the house down. 60 rebels boiled to down 11, seven abstained. and now groundhog day, it's going to the lords. are the lords going to leap into it? and frustrate once again the will of the people? >> well, the pm was quite chipper when he held his his press conference earlier today. he that now's the time for

he said that now's the time for the pass this bill. the lords to pass this bill. it's urgent national it's an urgent national priority. i mean, it limped for the rebels. it limped over the line, i think, for number 10 that a majority 44 or so, that a majority of 44 or so, they're a big majority. that a majority of 44 or so, the anda big majority. that a majority of 44 or so, the and they majority. that a majority of 44 or so, the and they had )rity. that a majority of 44 or so, the and they had to y. that a majority of 44 or so, the and they had to show the >> and they had to show the house there was a big house of lords there was a big majority this bill at third majority for this bill at third reading to demonstrate why they shouldn't it, shouldn't be amending it, because try amend because they will try and amend the out this the living daylights out of this bill can. bill if they can. >> earlier we joined the >> um, but earlier we joined the remarks from from the pm. he he had this to say. >> this is an urgent national priority . the treaty with rwanda priority. the treaty with rwanda is signed. and the legislation which deems rwanda a safe country , has been passed country, has been passed unamended in our elected chamber, there is now only one question will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people, as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that. in other remarks, martin, he said that he felt the tory party was united

in wanting to stop the boats. >> now , if you listen to those >> now, if you listen to those words, you think that's a bit weird, but not really, because he's the party is united. he's right. the party is united. >> all want stop the >> they all want to stop the boats. the question is, how do you it now? you do it now? >> as said, there >> 60 mps, as you said, there think won't work . think this plan won't work. >> um, and that's where that's where the, the right wingers may depart from the pm's view of the, of this rwanda bill. and that's why there were reports today some letters of no today of some letters of no confidence going in. >> believe that there'll >> i don't believe that there'll be he'll be removed be he'll be he'll be removed from office. >> i think he'll stay the prime minister into the minister going into the election, question. but there election, no question. but there are some unhappy people the backbenches. >> so andrew we >> so andrew jenkins, we got coming the next week, he coming on the show next week, he said. . as said. 11 true conservatives. as for the rebels, she said voted against this. for the rebels, she said voted against this . i want to pick on against this. i want to pick on this. lawson though we x and weeks and weeks ago i said to kate towey on this show when this gets to the lords, it's going get torn to shreds, going to get torn to shreds, isn't it? she said , i'm in isn't it? she said, i'm in there. it's a house of remainers. they don't want this plan to work. >> that's why the big majority

matters so much, because it's really peers matters so much, because it's retamend peers matters so much, because it's retamend the peers matters so much, because it's retamend the bill peers matters so much, because it's retamend the bill that's peers matters so much, because it's retamend the bill that's gones to amend the bill that's gone through the house of commons with 44 majority. that's with a big 44 majority. that's getting to what the tory getting close to what the tory party's working majority is. >> but it'll delay things and delay things. >> and that's why when we asked the journalists the pm today, the journalists asked will the first asked the pm when will the first flight off the of flight take off the pint of beer? still safe. we're beer? we have still safe. we're still . but not a single still safe. but not a single person were off a person were taken off on a flight uh, he he flight this year. uh, he said he can't say. he said the spring, but it hangs on what the house of all the pressure of lords do. all the pressure right is on the second right now is on the second chamber commons, our chamber in the commons, as our colleague, anderson , colleague, uh, lee anderson, fired the, resigned from the fired by the, resigned from the party. forgive me. as deputy chairman earlier this week for voting for one. that one of those amendments, of course those amendments, he, of course went no lobby then went into the no lobby and then abstained. gb abstained. he told us on gb news last he was being mocked last night. he was being mocked and teased and that was too much for labour mps in for him. by by the labour mps in that, lobby, i to that, in that lobby, i want to comment because he's had comment on that because he's had a stick about that. a lot of stick about that. >> is big lee anderson, the >> this is big lee anderson, the former coal miner, saying as you say, know, subtle say, you know, about as subtle as brick the head, was as a brick around the head, was intimidated bit leftie

laughter. >> didn't believe when he said >> i didn't believe when he said it in the it to me. i was in the westminster hall interviewing him last night. him for our viewers last night. i off it, lee. you're i said, come off it, lee. you're a big, hard fella. you know, you've you're miner. you've been you're a miner. you know, run of know, when you're run out of money, you your car and you money, you sold your car and you walk that kind walk to work. you're that kind of person. really going of person. are you really going to off by bit of to be put off by a bit of mocking from labour mps? and he was wasn't you. was crestfallen. he wasn't you. the usually that the usually anderson, that we know he looked know and i know, and he looked upset about it. >> i want to sort of shed some light something light onto something that happened brexit party happened with the brexit party when were brussels happened with the brexit party withe were brussels happened with the brexit party withe very, were brussels happened with the brexit party withe very, very were brussels happened with the brexit party withe very, very finalre brussels happened with the brexit party withe very, very final furlong,ssels at the very, very final furlong, where what nigel where we decided did what nigel farage we should where we decided did what nigel farivote we should where we decided did what nigel farivote for we should where we decided did what nigel farivote for this we should where we decided did what nigel farivote for this brexit we should where we decided did what nigel farivote for this brexit deal,|ould all vote for this brexit deal, even felt had flaws even though we felt it had flaws on fishing on northern ireland, we're still seeing them now and we're still seeing them now and we was we were right. but it it was time and said, time to compromise. and we said, i that room i used to i said in that room i used to work sports journalism. the work in sports journalism. the rothman sporting bible only remembers the result. if you vote the as the liberal vote the same as the liberal democrats that be democrats, that would be in history for the rest of time. i think for all of his bravado and his bluster and his heart and his bluster and his heart and his intent, i think that that moment happened to lee. >> he he's a lot to the tory

party. they've taken him in. he was a former labour councillor in ashfield, the first he in ashfield, the first time he voted conservative for voted conservative was for himself. unbelievable in the 2019 general election. he's someone who is symbolises the red how he'll be red wall. um, how he'll be replaced. we don't know. and that's problem. the tory that's the problem. the tory party has got. lost party has got. they've lost people clarke—smith party has got. they've lost peonoted clarke—smith party has got. they've lost peonoted for clarke—smith party has got. they've lost peonoted for bill larke—smith party has got. they've lost peonoted for bill laste—smith who voted for the bill last night, don't forget. but he calls he he resigned over calls he. he he resigned over the bill. trying to ask my the bill. i was trying to ask my own question on behalf our own question on behalf of our viewers the press conference. viewers at the press conference. it but the it wasn't called, but the question. from west question. philip from west yorkshire, to us was, yorkshire, sent in to us was, there's more chance of me winning the lottery than one person being sent to rwanda . and person being sent to rwanda. and then philip adds, and i don't play then philip adds, and i don't play the lottery. yeah. so he he doesn't believe it at all. >> and i wanted to ask you about this because i mentioned brexit again . a i'm obsessed with it again. a i'm obsessed with it and b, it just feels so much like that time once again. and then when boris johnson was in then when boris johnson was in the wings , the get brexit done the wings, the get brexit done candidate came to the rescue. he rode in on a white horse and turned that apathy into

something positive . that's not something positive. that's not looking like it's going to happen this time. there isn't the same will rishi. so the same will for rishi. so therefore where we see therefore where will we see people at this thinking? people looking at this thinking? no how i vote, nothing no matter how i vote, nothing seems happen. no one seems to seems to happen. no one seems to listen me . are we going to listen to me. are we going to see, you chris a huge see, do you think chris a huge wave of apathy? well crucially, what's different between now and 2019, boris johnson came 2019, when boris johnson came back, on the white back, as he said on the white steed to save the party, there's no jeopardy to the party. >> there's no jeopardy to the brexit deal. the tory party has a big working majority in the house commons. sunak house of commons. rishi sunak flexed night in flexed his muscles last night in the . the knife edge the commons. the knife edge vote, thought might happen at vote, we thought might happen at second reading vote a third second reading vote and a third reading happen . 60 second reading vote and a third readivoted happen . 60 second reading vote and a third readivoted rebel happen . 60 second reading vote and a third readivoted rebel forgive»en . 60 second reading vote and a third readivoted rebel forgive me 60 second reading vote and a third readivoted rebel forgive me on» mps voted rebel forgive me on monday and then one vote last night on tuesday, and they fell away. at the final analysis, there's no jeopardy, so it's not quite like brexit. >> okay, stick with us chris. um, but as the people's channel, we to know what you think. we want to know what you think. so let's cross now to leigh in greater speak greater manchester and speak to our england. our north west of england. reporter reaper sophie reporter sophie reaper sophie sophie, how are you doing? so

you've speaking to people you've been speaking to people today on big of today on the big topic of do they rishi sunak on they trust rishi sunak on stopping the boat and what do they say ? they say? >> well, here in leigh, this is one of those really classic red wall seats. they've always voted laboun wall seats. they've always voted labour. that was until the 2019 general election, when james grundy was able to swing it to get them to vote for the conservative party for the very first time. >> now, as we come into this general election year , it's general election year, it's going to be constituencies like leigh that are going to prove crucial to both conservative crucial to both the conservative and the labour party to try and swing the majority in their direction . direction. >> and therefore it's going to be crucial issues like immigration voters here are immigration that voters here are going to be looking at both parties to see if they can trust them on now, trust is the optimal word there. and that is because this morning, a yougov poll published in the times shows that only 35% of british voters trust current prime minister rishi sunak to get the

job done with immigration. so we've been here in leigh this morning, speaking to locals, asking them if they feel they can trust rishi sunak on immigration and this is what they had to say . immigration and this is what they had to say. um, no, immigration and this is what they had to say . um, no, not they had to say. um, no, not really . really. >> why not? um just because they've promised other things and they've never really followed up ? followed up? >> i don't think so. why not? >> i don't think so. why not? >> um, well, they've they've tried to send people back to africa and they've been stopped by law, haven't they? so people will keep coming . they won't . will keep coming. they won't. >> they can't stop the boats. >> they can't stop the boats. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> tell me why not? >> tell me why not? >> why not? i many chances of the yard i many chances . the yard i many chances. >> as you know . >> as you know. >> as you know. >> well they're obviously trying to push this rwanda bill through at the minute. do you think they'll be able to accomplish that? >> no, they never will. >> no, they never will. >> i don't trust government >> i don't trust any government to at the moment. >> not? >> why not? >> why not? >> it's too difficult to >> i think it's too difficult to tackle not one country in the in europe's managed to tackle it well. >> clearly . some very, very

>> clearly. some very, very strong views here in leon. and it seems that trust is very thin on the ground. one could perhaps argue as well that this is a reflection of the rest of the nation. when you take into account that yougov poll, which shows only just over a third of british voters trusting rishi sunak on immigration, so it's going to be really interesting as we come into that general election to see if key constituencies like leigh, if they're flip back to they're going to flip back to labour because they think they may able to better job may be able to do a betterjob in immigration, if they're in immigration, or if they're going be convinced rishi going to be convinced by rishi sunak tories sunak to stick with the tories because feels may be able because he feels he may be able to do a betterjob. >> okay, sophie reaper, thank you from leigh. chris you for that. from leigh. chris still here in the studio. that's what it's about now. about what it's about now. it's about trust actually some some key what it's about now. it's about trust made ually some some key what it's about now. it's about trust made there.ome some key what it's about now. it's about trust made there. theysome key what it's about now. it's about trust made there. they don't key points made there. they don't think anybody can stop this. not not in britain, not in the european union. is there that feeling now do you think, chris, that this is like a king canute moment? the tide cannot be stopped. >> political risk for rishi >> the political risk for rishi sunak made made up

sunak is he's made he's made up the the round becomes sunak is he's made he's made up theimportante round becomes sunak is he's made he's made up theimportant to�*und becomes sunak is he's made he's made up theimportant to hisi becomes sunak is he's made he's made up theimportant to his government1es sunak is he's made he's made up theilits)rtant to his government1es sunak is he's made he's made up theilits future.o his government1es sunak is he's made he's made up theilits future. when|overnment1es sunak is he's made he's made up theilits future. when itfernment1es and its future. when it started off way of getting a few off by way of getting a few hundred young male arrivals here who appeared to be economic migrants moved them permanently to rwanda . instead, the tory to rwanda. instead, the tory right want thousands of them to take off. i'm not sure that's going to happen. not even sure the pm thinks thousands might take off, and i think that that's part of the problem. it's been given this totemic support of one if of value, but no one knows if it's going work yet. they it's going to work yet. they want the these want to break the model of these people smugglers. i mean, five people smugglers. i mean, five people crossing on on people died crossing on on sunday hasn't put 621 sunday and that hasn't put 621 crossing so far this week. i crossing in so far this week. i think it is. you said earlier, i mean, you know, the fact that five died isn't enough to put them off. why should rwanda and that's the that's the risk he's got. it let's give got. but let's put it let's give them given their due, if them that. given their due, if rwanda works despite the 5050 chance, the government's own lawyers will be a lawyers give them, it will be a real forget, real moment. and don't forget, as it's as the pm said, and it's election year, he told reporters today, starmer will repeal today, keir starmer will repeal this if it works . and this bill even if it works. and that could be the an issue for

the labour party towards the end of year. of this year. >> i to labour mps and lords >> i say to labour mps and lords when here all the when they come in here all the time, plan and this time, what's your plan and this plan stopping the criminal plan of stopping the criminal gangs? something that gangs? it's something that sounds like an old chestnut. i mean, they've been trying this for years and years and years, but also the government isn't trying to do that. >> government working >> the government is working closely with authorities on the continent. doing doing continent. it's doing it's doing third albania third country deals with albania cutting numbers by a third. they argue because of that deal. some others the weather's others say the weather's been better. the government others say the weather's been betttest the government others say the weather's been betttest idea.ie government others say the weather's been betttest idea.ie gcthese,ent can test that idea. but these, these third country deals, there's an idea somehow that because labour's more kind of eu friendly, can get a better friendly, they can get a better deal on migration. well, let's see how that works out. >> well, they'll a contra >> well, they'll get a contra deal >> well, they'll get a contra deal. a returns deal. they'll get a returns deal deal. they'll get a returns deal. mean they've they've deal. i mean they've they've nakedly again. nakedly saying that again. >> claims 100,000 >> well there are claims 100,000 people from, people might be resettled from, from the uk . from the continent to the uk. that's denied by labour. but the kind happens could kind of deal that happens could end which may be end up with that, which may be more least, is attempt to more at least, is an attempt to do from the government. >> every we've >> but every time that we've gone with our begging gone to france with our begging bowl, says, we'll go to bowl, macron says, we'll go to brussels. to

brussels. well, when you go to brussels, want brussels, they will want something no something back. brussels is no friend anymore. they friend of ours anymore. they won't us. oh yeah, won't just give us. oh yeah, send many as you want back to send as many as you want back to france. problemo . it's going send as many as you want back to frecause problemo . it's going send as many as you want back to frecause a problemo . it's going send as many as you want back to frecause a huge emo . it's going send as many as you want back to frecause a huge political; going battle. >> i just whether, >> i just wonder whether, looking two looking forward, maybe two years, are going to years, we are going to renegotiate parts of the renegotiate the parts of the trade cooperation trade and cooperation agreement. uh, grabs. the uh, fish is up for grabs. the fishing waters come back to the uk alone. will we and trade uk alone. will we try and trade some rights for a deal some fishing rights for a deal on migration elsewhere on migration or deal elsewhere on migration or deal elsewhere on ev vehicles ? that's for the on ev vehicles? that's for the next government to think about. >> and a lot of people, chris, will be saying, are even will be saying, why are we even at negotiating table about at the negotiating table about fishing? my point fishing? back to my point earlier, that should have been a british sovereign entity and it always is. >> it's all about fish. often the fish or the cod wars back in the fish or the cod wars back in the 70s, think fish and the 70s, i think fish and sovereignty of waters is something which think could be sovereignty of waters is sonnextig which think could be sovereignty of waters is son next battleground nk could be sovereignty of waters is son next battleground nk ithe d be the next battleground for the next government. >> think that labour, >> do you think that labour, getting brussels is a getting closer to brussels is a spectre or is it a real threat? >> i wouldn't see it as a threat. it's how they treat that closeness. if they get a better deal on some issues for the uk , deal on some issues for the uk, treating itself as a sovereign

nafion treating itself as a sovereign nation , that could be a good nation, that could be a good thing. it's not necessarily a bad thing as a sovereign nation to close nearest to get close to our nearest trading they trading bloc, what they shouldn't for a lot people trading bloc, what they shouvoted for a lot people trading bloc, what they shouvoted brexita lot people trading bloc, what they shouvoted brexit is ot people trading bloc, what they shouvoted brexit is trade people trading bloc, what they shouvoted brexit is trade awaya who voted brexit is trade away sovereignty for any closeness. >> gets his >> but if starmer gets his bollocks out, pardon pun , bollocks out, pardon the pun, and gives away for some and gives fish away for some sort of negotiating contra deal, that will make people think, well, you're giving stuff away, that we were meant to have taken back control of, and it will start conversation rolling start this conversation rolling and we are and rolling that, wow, we are getting and more aligned getting closer and more aligned and people have a worry about that. >> that is the next battle with the eu. i think , on fish, but the eu. i think, on fish, but it's not. it's one year or it's not. it's one next year or the year after we're going to be facing that one. but i think that will test assuming it's labour looking labour government. looking at the and see. the polls, we'll wait and see. of course. what reform doing well polls today, but well in the polls today, but we'll that we'll just wait and see how that plays out. if it's labour plays out. but if it's labour government, that'll be a big tension moment. >> fact, 14% saw that >> in fact, 14% i saw on that reform highest reform poll that's the highest they've ever polled. >> 12% today. they >> yeah, 12% today. yougov, they think to 13% next think they might go to 13% next month, but up from 8. that's a third jump for reform. why that

happened think privately, happened i think privately, reformers they think they reformers say they think they were more 8% at yougov. but were more than 8% at yougov. but 12% is a lot. if they go towards 13, 14% going into the crucial by elections next month, there's real food for thought for rishi sunak. he can't wait for law to get right. there get this right. there is a benefit works, but he's benefit if it works, but he's got on with it. got to get on with it. >> okay, chris, hope always a pleasure. got james daly in from the conservative party in the next 5:00 lord robert next hour and 5:00 lord robert hayward, the hayward, we'll ask him all the law going leaping all law is going to be a leaping all over this . he'll be a part of over this. he'll be a part of that conversation. it's going to be watch. although be fantastic to watch. although as saying, i've got as i keep saying, i've got groundhog moments, groundhog day moments, this feels brexit all over feels like brexit all over again. it's giving me hives. anyway, we'll have more on anyway, we'll have lots more on the battles get the government's battles to get the government's battles to get the flights the the rwanda flights off the ground there's ground at 4:00, and there's plenty our plenty of coverage on our website, gbnews.com, and you've helped it the fastest helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the thank you very much the country. thank you very much . now, the mother of the two year old toddler who starved to death has revealed her son was two inches too small to reach the fridge and get the food that could have saved his life. i'm

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of this journey. in 2024. gb news is britain's election . channel >> welcome back. it's 326. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now later this hour we'll cross live to belfast on the day of northern ireland's biggest strike a century, strike for half a century, 170,000 public sector workers on

strike. but now to the latest on the tragic death of two year old bronson battersbee , who was bronson battersbee, who was found next to the body of his father, who had died of a heart attack , bronson battersby's attack, bronson battersby's mother, has revealed her son was only two inches too small to reach the fridge and would have got food that could have saved his life . well, east midlands his life. well, east midlands reporter will hollis is in skegness. reporter will hollis is in skegness . will, um, a story skegness. will, um, a story that's absolutely captivated the nafion that's absolutely captivated the nation and horrifying and emotional in equal measures. what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> yes, well , it's that quote >> yes, well, it's that quote that we've been hearing from bronson's mum, sarah, about the fact that he was too just small to even be able to get food from his cupboards and from his fridge. it just shows how young and vulnerable paul bronson was . and vulnerable paul bronson was. and it was that vulnerability that was the reason why social services was involved. a young

toddler living alone with his father here in skegness, 60 years old, and it's on this street. prince alfred avenue, where they both live together and ultimately died together. now bronson was known to social services at lincolnshire county council. they were having routine visits and that was what was expected just after christmas. but somewhere between that conversation between kenneth, the 60 year old father and social services and later in january, both the pair would die kenneth from a heart attack and bronson ultimately from expected dehydration and starvation. there were two opportunities when social services attempted a visit here in prince alfred avenue and upon both of those there was no answer. at the doon there was no answer. at the door. now the police at lincolnshire were made aware of those visits and were aware that there was no answer at the door.

but but there was no attempt to essentially break in to, uh, to see what was going on. not until a third visit that was on the 9th of january, when a landlady let them in, and the discovery was made. now, because of that process ? yes, lincolnshire process? yes, lincolnshire police has recorded, referred itself to the iopc. that's the police conduct watchdog, something that is standard procedure when a death relating to police involvement could potentially have been preventable. they'll look at the processes there , but also processes there, but also lincolnshire's social services has ordered a rapid review, something it does to look at its own processes . and it is quite own processes. and it is quite right, isn't it, martin? that when we look at these sorts of cases where vulnerable children are put at risk, that we assess our public institutions, but today in lincoln, we've also been speaking to people for their opinions on what role wide society can play when vulnerable children are put at risk. i

don't think it seems to have gone wrong. >> it's just an unfortunate set of circumstances. from what i hean of circumstances. from what i hear, nobody knew that the father had any ill father even had any ill condition and i think the condition, and i think the social worker went tried social worker went and she tried to get as much as she to get there as much as she could. and the thing is, as i said also, that they haven't got the right to break so the right to break in. so i think she did the that think she did the best that she could circumstances. it could in the circumstances. it is tragic, but it's just unfortunate . unfortunate. >> uh, i think it's a really difficult situation , the sense difficult situation, the sense that social services have been put through it, haven't they, over the last years? um, over the last few years? um, about not intervening enough . i about not intervening enough. i think in general people see an awful lot going on and they are frightened to do anything. so i think somebody should have actually broken down the actually perhaps broken down the doon >> there more people who >> there are more people who perhaps had perhaps should have had something to do with it. do you know were the neighbours? >> where were the where were the rest family? rest of the family? >> think it is just >> so i don't think it is just down to social services the down to social services or the police after vulnerable police looking after vulnerable people important people that are most important thing really. >> and the police obviously

they're overstretched because they're overstretched because they . same with they have no staff. same with social services. they're very overstretched, focus on overstretched, but they focus on silly . i have a friend silly things. i have a friend who's got a child, uh, he's separated from his dad. they only see him once a week and, you know, he comes back with bruises and stuff. so social. don't really look at it as they should do. they just go, well , should do. they just go, well, it's parents. they have to see their kids . it's parents. they have to see their kids. so a lot of the time i they don't step when i think they don't step in when they and they they should do. and they just sort it the sort of brush it under the carpet and leave it to there. so >> bronson did live alone with his father. he didn't live with his father. he didn't live with his mum, but she has been speaking to the sun newspaper and it is quite, um, apparent from what she's been saying that she rests the blame squarely . on she rests the blame squarely. on social services from lincolnshire county council . lincolnshire county council. >> okay. will hollis in skegness on the case of bronson and battarbee. akasic greatly moved me yesterday and still does. and i think many, many viewers out there contacted me yesterday

about their their desperate upset at this case, which raises many, many questions which i'm sure will addressing over sure we will be addressing over the coming days. but for now, bronson battarbee rest in peace . bronson battarbee rest in peace. okay, there's lots still now to come between now and 4:00. and with the princess of wales recovering from surgery and the king due in hospital next week , king due in hospital next week, i'll look at what happens next with the royal family. but first says your latest news headlines with wenzler . with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, martin. it's 331. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill. rishi sunak, whose determined to control the uk borders , spoke to control the uk borders, spoke to officials at gatwick after airport this afternoon to highlight the importance of border security designed to prevent legal challenges against removal of asylum seekers. the third reading passed the commons

unamended last night, with a majority of 44. dozens of tories threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it. rishi sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely unhed shows his party is completely united and says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority . he and urgent national priority. he and the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 people were intercepted trying to cross the channel yesterday in eight small boats. it means 621 people have arrived in the uk so far this yean arrived in the uk so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor weather, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history. schools have closed, public transport is limited and hospitals are offering only christmas day level services as teachers, transport and health care workers walk off the job. there demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to

elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretary's intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one.the saying the matter is a devolved one. the aslef union has announced train strikes will go on strike for five days next month . lner drivers will walk month. lner drivers will walk out from february the 5th in their long running dispute over pay- their long running dispute over pay. the latest action is in addition to a series of walkouts against train operators across england. previously announced by the union . and the prince of the union. and the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital, where she's recovering from abdominal surgery . prince from abdominal surgery. prince william was seen leaving the private london clinic this afternoon . prince catherine is afternoon. prince catherine is said to be doing well and after her planned surgery on tuesday, but it's expected she'll stay in hospital for about two weeks. meanwhile, the queen has said the king is fine and is looking forward to getting back to work as he awaits treatment for an enlarged and you can enlarged prostate and you can get more on all those stories by

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two hours after it emerged that the princess of wales had had abdominal surgery. prince william visited her in hospital today and she'll spend up to three months away from royal duties. three months away from royal dufies.the three months away from royal duties. the prince of wales has cleared his diary today of his wife and children, as well . so wife and children, as well. so with three senior royals, big names out of action, he poses the big question what does the royal family do now? well, to answer that question, i'm joined by our royal correspondent cameron walker. cameron welcome to the show. always a pleasure. it's a big pair a big set of boots to fill here. so who will step up to the fold and cover all these royal appointments. >> yeah, it's certainly been a double whammy in terms of royal health scares hasn't over health scares hasn't it. over the 24 or so. well the last 24 hours or so. well the last 24 hours or so. well the only senior royal which is continuing and keeping calm and carrying on at the moment is her majesty the queen. queen camilla. has been at camilla. she has been at an engagement in aberdeen to do with domestic violence. one of her key passions, and she

actually spoke about her husband, the king's condition , husband, the king's condition, before she entered the building where she told somebody that the king is fine and looking forward to getting back to work. so clearly she isn't too worried . clearly she isn't too worried. as for the other engagements of the prince and princess of wales, they have all been put on hold, but less senior members of the royal family such as princess the . princess princess anne, the. princess royal princess anne, the. princess royal, the duchess of edinburgh, the duke of edinburgh. they have all very much continued with royal so princess anne royal duties, so princess anne held an investiture at the palace of holyrood in palace of holyrood yesterday in edinburgh duchess edinburgh. the duchess of edinburgh. the duchess of edinburgh been somewhere edinburgh has been somewhere else carrying out else today, carrying out engagements so terms the engagements. so in terms of the royals who are still who are not ill, it is very much keeping calm and carrying on. i understand the king does not need anyone to deputise on his behalf. next week when he goes in for hospital treatment at his penod in for hospital treatment at his period of convalescence afterwards , although we won't afterwards, although we won't see him in public, i'm told he will still very much be working behind the scenes on those government red boxes, which he

receives every day. signing official papers and reading governments business. so all of thatis governments business. so all of that is still continuing. but the prince of wales has chosen not to carry on for now he is splitting his time, as we just saw there between spending time by the princess of wales's side , by the princess of wales's side, who is now day three of her hospital stay. following that pretty big abdominal surgery which was planned. it wasn't an emergency and it's non—cancerous , emergency and it's non—cancerous i , emergency and it's non—cancerous , i must add. but he's splitting his time between there and the three children. prince george , three children. prince george, princess charlotte and prince louis. i've been told they went to school as usual yesterday. presumably they went to school as usual today as well, and prince is his way, prince william is on his way, probably around this time actually, do the school pick actually, to do the school pick up . um, but he is having to up. um, but he is having to prioritise being a father rather than his official royal duties at the moment. >> and cameron, i'm afraid it also poses the question if only harry and meghan hadn't gone awol , then the spare royal could awol, then the spare royal could now step up to the plate and

fulfil a dutiful role . sadly, fulfil a dutiful role. sadly, along with prince andrew, who's more or less been decommissioned by the royal family, they're a bit short on bodies to step up to the plate. >> well, perhaps , and that's why >> well, perhaps, and that's why the king last year asked the house of lords to add princess anne and prince edward, his two siblings, to the lists of counsellors of states who could depufise counsellors of states who could deputise on his behalf. it's necessary, if necessary , all the necessary, if necessary, all the different members of the royal family have their different projects and passions, so i doubt even if prince harry and meghan were still working members of the royal family, william catherine or indeed william and catherine or indeed the be particularly the king, would be particularly comfortable with them taking oven comfortable with them taking over. the princess of over. let's say the princess of wales's early years work or prince william's work on homelessness or mental health or something. so they still have their own individual passion projects that they want to work on. but yeah, i think it just shows that this slimmed down monarchy, which we have talked about the last few about really for the last few years , has very happened years, has very much happened now because we only have one

senior member of the royal family still full time working this next week we're going this week. next week we're going to have the king and the future queen who you just saw in your screens. screens there in hospital time, hospital at the same time, cameron , one the hugely cameron, one of the hugely positive things about this, um, i for many years in men's i worked for many years in men's health, men's mental health, try and get men to talk about their health is a huge issue. >> the openness of the king with his condition. i would view as a huge, positive . i mean, huge, huge positive. i mean, lots and lots of men now are talking about that. later in the show. we're going to speak to prostate and that's prostate cancer uk and that's a really positive thing that the royals so open about their royals being so open about their health permission the health gives permission for the rest of us also do a similar rest of us to also do a similar thing . thing. >> t- t— @ suspect you very >> yeah, and i suspect you very much wouldn't be talking to prostate uk if it wasn't prostate cancer uk if it wasn't for the announcement . for the king's announcement. buckingham in the past buckingham palace in the past has criticised for perhaps has been criticised for perhaps being too secretive being slightly too secretive when to the monarch's when it comes to the monarch's health. i'm talking about that secret hospital trip the late queen had for some tests back in early 2022. but to be fair to

the palace, they've been incredibly open with the king's condition. i'm told the king actually wanted to disclose his private medical information about the enlarged prostate . about the enlarged prostate. it's incredibly rare for us to get that amount of detail and as you say, martin, i'm told that the king really wanted to make that public, to try and encourage other men his age , or encourage other men his age, or perhaps slightly younger, certainly over 50, if they are experiencing symptoms which presumably he has been to go and get yourself checked out by a medical profession, or at least go on the nhs website and check out those symptoms . so it out those symptoms. so it appears it's worked because media all over the country and indeed the world are now talking about those kind of conditions. i see there's a huge increase in terms of online searches for that kind of condition as well. so it appears a positive out of all of this. >> yeah, i think hats off to the for king being so open. men do need that permission. they need that little nudge . no doubt that little nudge. no doubt their wives might join in

nagging them, hugely nagging them, but it's a hugely positive cameron walker , positive thing. cameron walker, thank for joining thank you very much for joining us on the show. it's always an absolute pleasure. the absolute pleasure. now, the double fans of double whammy for fans of electric today . it turns electric cars today. it turns out they lose up to half of their value in just three years, and tesla drivers in the united states are finding it out at the moment. it's too cold for their cars to even work. he couldn't make it up. shocking news on martin daubney on gb news. britain's new .

>> gb news news, the people's channel >> gb news news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . channel, britain's news channel. welcome back. >> it's 345. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now at 4:00. we've got the latest on the government's plans to send migrants to rwanda as rishi sunak urges the lords to do the right thing. and good luck with that. rishi now we've spent so much time talking about strikes and today the biggest walkout in northern ireland's history has taken place. an estimated 150,000 public sector workers are on strike over pay schools have been closed, while hospitals are offering only christmas day . levels of service christmas day. levels of service . and i'm joined now by our northern ireland reporter, dougie beattie dougie, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. sounds like absolute chaos in northern ireland. what's the latest ? well it is, and northern ireland. what's the latest? well it is, and this is over a pay deal. >> the party between one

northern ireland civil service or public sector workers. and that of the rest of the uk isn't in line. and that becomes because there is no government behind us here in stormont. now the time runs out now at midnight tonight, chris heaton—harris must decide whether to extend legislation and set a budget for northern ireland or to call an election to the assembly. behind now, if he does that, that will be bring back exactly the same parties in the same place and there'll be no further forward. but the he had offered money, he had acknowledged that the party wasn't there. he had acknowledged that northern ireland was underfunded, and he'd also acknowledged that there over £3 billion there there was over £3 billion there to be spent . and he said, you to be spent. and he said, you can't have it on unless the building behind me was inhabited with politicians once more. and that has angered the unions. in fact , far from throwing anger at fact, far from throwing anger at politicians in northern ireland, it really has stressed the

pubuc it really has stressed the public sector out that they that has been now pushed towards chris heaton—harris. has been now pushed towards chris heaton—harris . chris and i chris heaton—harris. chris and i caught up with a couple of the unions earlier on. there has been underfunding and lack of pay been underfunding and lack of pay over many years. >> we've had a haemorrhaging of skilled workers throughout of the public services. so this is a pay the public services. so this is a pay dispute on the face of it, but also its protection of the resources of public services. >> well, the teaching profession has no uplift for has received no pay uplift for the last three years. while we've watched successive pay increases being made to colleagues across every other jurisdiction in these islands, the teaching profession cannot be treated in northern ireland as second class citizens to everywhere else on these islands i >> -- >> well, you can hear the frustration in those unions and it was quite a big turnout in belfast city centre today. but just as i'm coming on air, the snow is starting to come in. and of course some of those public sector workers drive the gritters here to treat the roads. so tomorrow morning people will need to watch out that of those roads that

that some of those roads that they think may been treated they think may have been treated well, they won't have been. and that an end to a day that will bring an end to a day that will bring an end to a day that has been one where, um , that has been one where, um, northern ireland has basically ground to a halt. okay >> dougie beattie sounds like absolute bedlam in belfast and the whole of northern ireland. thank you for that update . now thank you for that update. now moving on. if you drive an electric car then i've got two bits of shockingly bad news for you. first, it turns out that your pride and joy might actually stop working if it's too cold. as many drivers in the united states have found out this week. and it's also emerged today that the value of electric cars in this country can fall by as much as an eye—watering 50% after just three years. so to ask, what's the point of these cars at all? i'm joined by edmund king, who is the president of the aa and always a superb guest. it's superb to have you on the show, edmund . have you on the show, edmund. the facts are the facts . they the facts are the facts. they stop working when they're too

cold. they won't take as much charge . they're plummeting in charge. they're plummeting in value, especially with a load of vehicles coming to markets after three year lease periods . three year lease periods. convince me why electric cars are still a good idea . are still a good idea. >> yeah, i'm not sure those facts really are the facts. i mean , what the facts are is when mean, what the facts are is when it's colder, all cars suffer an electric car suffer when it's colder . in electric car suffer when it's colder. in terms of their range, some something like when it's freezing , it's estimated the freezing, it's estimated the range is reduced from 10% to 20. so you know, in real terms, if you've got a range of 200 miles at the most , that might be at the most, that might be reduced to 160 miles. and that's all to do with the lithium ion battery and the chemical reaction . the chemical reactions reaction. the chemical reactions are slower when it's extremely cold and indeed extremely hot. but most drivers know that. so

they kind of compensate for it in winter one journey distances aren't as long, but two there aren't as long, but two there are things you can do to mitigate it. so if you're charging at home, you can actually set your charger to come on earlier to preheat the battery, to preheat the car , and battery, to preheat the car, and one of one of the advantages here, where you can be very smug with your neighbours when your neighbours are out there with the scrapers and the, um, you know, uh, cd disc scraping the windscreen and the bad ones pounng windscreen and the bad ones pouring boiling water on the windscreen . i just set a timer windscreen. i just set a timer on my phone and i go out and my car is towed . staying warm. the car is towed. staying warm. the windows are clear. i'm not like a tank commander, so i've. i've got to say, some of these stories coming out of america are somewhat height. >> well, there's another story that came out of america last week and that is the rental company halls is selling off

200,000 of its electric cars because customers simply don't want them. now, my sister lives in america and she verifies this because they're scared of the range. if you drive a long distance in places like california, texas , and then you california, texas, and then you hit traffic and you're in gridlock, they're conking out. people aren't choosing them because of all the aforementioned issues. so the things like range and charge and reliability, they're still nagging consumer issues, aren't they, edmund ? they, edmund? >> yeah, i think for the rental factor, though, there is also a business consider nation. and what we saw in america, um, over the last 12 months is that they bought a lot of evs, particularly a lot of teslas. and then tesla cut their prices . and then tesla cut their prices. by and then tesla cut their prices. by more than $4,000 on various models. and what that meant for the rental companies, their so—called residual value shoes were cut , you know, overnight. were cut, you know, overnight. so that was a problem. but i do think , yes, there are other think, yes, there are other problems for renters. things like rent turns up and are on

many, many of the rental places. the cars haven't got 100% charge, you know, and when you're getting a new car, you want to just sit in it. you don't want to go and find someone to charge where you might need another or might need another card or another app. so i think for many renters who haven't driven an electric car, it can be quite daunting. but one one small people get used to it. i think we will see that market change again . but. but there is no again. but. but there is no doubt. yeah there's still some stepping stones to take. but most people , once they've owned most people, once they've owned an electric car martin, they won't go back when you see the pnces won't go back when you see the prices of petrol and diesel. when i walk past a local garage, i kind of think if i can charge at home for like almost a 10th of that price, i'm. i'm not going back to the garage. yeah but there's a there's a simple fact that the value of petrol cars is holding firm because people are all concerned about the future. >> the cars being phased out and

the plummeting value of electric cars makes them very worried in a nutshell, will people ever get into this via the carrot, or will have to be all the stick of the forcing them? the government forcing them? >> no, i think electric cars are getting better. all the time. the range is getting better, the pnces the range is getting better, the prices are coming down and yeah, the residual values have dropped. you're absolutely right. but then, you know, my electric cars , three years old, electric cars, three years old, i'll just keep it longer. get get the most value for it. you don't always have to sell your car to, to, you know, enhance your finances. so i think things will smooth out. but yes, there are still some teething problems i >> -- >> okay. edmund king, president of the aa , thank you very much of the aa, thank you very much for joining us. and you've kind forjoining us. and you've kind of half convinced me. thank you very much. what do you reckon out there? i mean, i just don't have the faith. like be have the faith. i like to be able go wherever i want. able to just go wherever i want. rishi sunak has told the laws not to frustrate the will of the people we'll see people on rwanda. we'll see about next hour. i'm about that in the next hour. i'm martin daubney news, martin daubney on gb news, britain's channel

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gb news. >> good afternoon. it's 4 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. in the next few minutes i'll get a conservative and labour mp reaction to this big story. rishi sunak has a message for the lords who might try to block his rwanda bill. he's told them to do the right thing and not frustrate the will of the people . good luck with that, rishi and if we all need a reminding of the size of the migrant crisis, it's emerged that a massive 621

people have crossed the channel in just five days. we are not stopping the boats and the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital today, but now they're temporarily taking a break from official duties and with the king facing surgery next week, i'll ask who'll step into the royal breach . and with into the royal breach. and with the armed forces all facing a recruitment crisis and suffering from a lack of funding , i'll from a lack of funding, i'll ask, can we even defend our own country anymore ? and that's all country anymore? and that's all coming in your next hour. country anymore? and that's all coming in your next hour . so the coming in your next hour. so the mps are queuing up to get in to give their reaction to this big story on the rwanda bill last night, the revolt stalled out, but the lords are being warned not to go a leaping in and kicking it up like they did with brexit. will there be any flights ever getting off the ground? email me your views

gbviews@gbnews.com and all the usual way. but first your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin. thank you and good afternoon to you. well the top story from the gb newsroom today is that the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing. and pass his rwanda bill. rishi sunak, who says he's determined to control the uk's borders , spoke to officials at borders, spoke to officials at gatwick airport this afternoon to highlight. he said the importance of border security . importance of border security. well, the third reading of the rwanda bill, meanwhile , designed rwanda bill, meanwhile, designed to stop those last minute pyjama injunctions preventing the removal of asylum seekers passed through the commons unamended last night, a majority of last night, with a majority of 44, dozens of tories had threatened to rebel. but in the end only 11 voted against it. rishi sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely unhed shows his party is completely united and says peers must now support the legislation as an

urgent national priority . he urgent national priority. he there is now only one question will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people , as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing? >> it's as simple as that. and do the right thing? >> it's as simple as that . we >> it's as simple as that. we have a plan and the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down. not just down by a bit, down by a third, compared to crossings in the year before . year before. >> in response, shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock criticised the conservative parties infighting. >> the prime minister's performance at the press conference today was bizarre, very difficult to see what the point of that press conference really was. he is a weak prime minister, leading a deeply divided party. we've seen a shambolic warring factions in the conservative party over the last two days on the rwanda bill will the prime minister's plan

to stop the boats comes as the home office confirms 358 migrants were intercepted trying to cross the english channel yesterday in eight small boats. >> that means 621 migrants have arrived in the uk so far this yean arrived in the uk so far this year, despite more than two weeks of poor january weather. now the aslef union has announced train drivers will go on strike for five days next month , lner drivers will walk month, lner drivers will walk out from february the 5th and their long running dispute over pay- their long running dispute over pay. the latest action is in addition to a series of walkouts against train operators across england, previously announced by the union , and thousands of jobs the union, and thousands of jobs are at risk as tata steel has decided to push ahead with plans to close both blast furnaces at its port talbot plant in south wales . the decision comes wales. the decision comes despite unions today putting forward proposals aimed at saving jobs, which tata has rejected. the redundancies to be completed by march next year ,

completed by march next year, will see three quarters of the 4000 staff on site at risk of losing their jobs. 4000 staff on site at risk of losing their jobs . unions will losing their jobs. unions will consult their members on the situation with industrial action not ruled out now , tens of not ruled out now, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history . what do we want recent history. what do we want to know? >> what do we want? where do we want it now ? want it now? >> schools have closed public transport is limited, and hospitals are offering only christmas day levels of service as teachers , transport and as teachers, transport and health care workers walk off the job, their demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretaries intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused, saying the matter is a devolved one. two trade unionists explained why they're on the picket line . picket line. >> there has been underfunding

and lack of pay over many years. we've had a haemorrhaging of skilled workers throughout in the public services, so this is a pay the public services, so this is a pay dispute on the face of it, but also it's protection of the resources of public services. >> well, the teaching profession has received no pay uplift for the last three years. while we've watched successive pay increases being made to colleagues across every other jurisdiction in these islands, the teaching profession cannot be treated in northern ireland as second class citizens to every where else on these islands. carmel gates and graham coote ending that report . coote ending that report. >> but now the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital, where she's recovering from abdominal prince from abdominal surgery. prince william was seen leaving the private london clinic this afternoon. princess catherine is said to be doing well after her planned procedure, which was performed on tuesday, but it's expected she'll stay in hospital for up to two weeks. meanwhile, the queen has said his majesty the queen has said his majesty the is and looking the king is fine and looking forward to getting back to work as he awaits treatment for an enlarged the 75 year

enlarged prostate. the 75 year old monarch says he's keen to go pubuc old monarch says he's keen to go public his condition to public with his condition to encourage men to get encourage other men to get checked . and lastly , snow and checked. and lastly, snow and ice warnings remain in place across parts of the uk today, with the cold snap expected to continue well into the weekend. the met office issuing an amber alert in northern scotland saying power cuts and travel disruption are possible . some disruption are possible. some areas could also see an extra 15 to 20cm of snow. much of the uk saw temperatures fall below freezing overnight, with some regions dropping to as low as —11 in. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel. thank you speaker. this is britain's news channel . thank you polly. channel. thank you polly. >> now there's only one place to start this afternoon, of course, andifs start this afternoon, of course, and it's this the fallout from the government's the the government's win on the

rwanda bill last night, and rishi come out rishi sunak has come out fighting he's swinging fighting today. he's swinging and the house of lords and he's told the house of lords not frustrate the of the not to frustrate the will of the people with echoes of brexit all over again. i'm joined in the studio to discuss this by the tory mp for bury north james daly welcome to the daly james. welcome to the studio. thank you. always a pleasure. you voted this? pleasure. you voted for this? yeah you're must be happy with it . the rebellion withered away . it. the rebellion withered away. um. and for now, at least, there's a scintilla of party unity . unity. >> well, the most important thing is the policy. >> and i believe the policy is going to get planes in the air, and going a and it's going to act as a deterrent. >> the things, martin, >> one of the things, martin, i felt that's been missing from the terms what this the debate in terms of what this policy is it's policy is about, is it's not about whether processing about whether we're processing 50 300 people, 3000 50 people, 300 people, 3000 people rwanda . what it's people in rwanda. what it's about stopping people about is stopping people from coming from those beaches in calais to here. calais over to here. >> i've just seen before coming in here, we 651 people in here, we had 651 people coming over the point of the policy is a as part of a suite of policies. >> it's to stop them coming. >> it's to stop them coming. >> do you think that this >> so do you think that this bill send that

bill last night will send that tremor of fear through the people smugglers throughout those willing those people who are willing and actually their lives in actually losing their lives in the even this week, the channel? even this week, this piece of legislation will do was just a huge leap do that. it was just a huge leap of faith. well, as you know, i'm a of the affairs a member of the home affairs select committee. a member of the home affairs select went|ittee. a member of the home affairs select went to ee. a member of the home affairs select went to the beaches >> we went to the beaches in calais. >> we to officials there, >> we talked to officials there, to officers there. to the police officers there. >> say? >> and what did they say? >> and what did they say? >> that when this >> they said that when this policy first announced by policy was first announced by the saw a rush the government, they saw a rush of people who said to them, we're try and get we're going to try and get across the channel before this policy comes into place. >> is only of >> that is the only bit of evidence that's been put evidence that's ever been put forward or against, apart forward for or against, apart from the wider sort of perspective, martin, that this is that been is a policy that has been adopted can believe this? >> it's adopted by the eu. so the turkey getting billions the turkey is getting billions of pounds from the eu, which is the blueprint for how labour want to govern for offshore processing. so the labour position is all over the place. this policy will work. the prime minister said today. he's determined to make sure that foreign courts don't affect the ability of the british government send to government to send people to rwanda, will of parliament. >> are you confident a

>> are you confident that a single going to take single flight is going to take off the next general off before the next general election chopper, political election? chopper, our political edhon election? chopper, our political editor, with editor, has got her back with rishi. that won't happen. 11 conservatives , andrew conservatives last night, andrew jenkins called them actual the true conservatives, implying i guess you guys aren't. um voted against this saying it won't work in its current format, but your confidence, it will, um , i your confidence, it will, um, i respect my colleagues. >> i think they've all taken an honourable positions in respect of this, but not one of them has given me any evidence to say that with the political determination prime determination that the prime ministers this ministers are showing that this won't it's just words. >> so it's just words. >> so it's just words. >> it'sjust you >> so it's just words. >> it's just you know, the >> it's just it's, you know, the prime minister said today that he not going to allow he is not going to allow a foreign court to stop this government sending people to rwanda is the case, we are >> if that is the case, we are going uh, planes in the going to see, uh, planes in the air and we're going to see people going to rwanda. and the deterrent this policy deterrent impact of this policy will which assuming will be seen, which i'm assuming labour want that. will be seen, which i'm assuming labotwant want that. will be seen, which i'm assuming labotwant to want that. will be seen, which i'm assuming labotwant to see want that. will be seen, which i'm assuming labotwant to see people1at. will be seen, which i'm assuming labotwant to see people stopping they want to see people stopping coming across the channel. >> sunak is urging >> james rishi sunak is urging the laws to do the right thing. but kate hoey weeks the laws to do the right thing. but weeks kate hoey weeks the laws to do the right thing. but weeks ago,(ate hoey weeks the laws to do the right thing. but weeks ago, and hoey weeks the laws to do the right thing. but weeks ago, and they weeks

the laws to do the right thing. but weeks ago, and the right�*ks and weeks ago, and the right thing for the laws won't be the same the thing same thing as the right thing for the conservative party. they're remainers . they're a house of remainers. they're a house of remainers. they tried down brexit. they tried to take down brexit. they're do same they're going to do the same thing rwanda. have thing with rwanda. martin i have faith that they're going to respect will respect the democratic will of parliament respect the democratic will of parliar of it respect the democratic will of parliarof lords, i think, house of lords, i think, understands appreciates . understands and appreciates. >> if they don't, they >> and if they don't, they certainly enough >> and if they don't, they certemigration enough >> and if they don't, they certemigration the enough >> and if they don't, they certemigration the enougof that migration and the level of migration country is migration into this country is of concern . we have to of grave concern. we have to act upon it. >> have faith that the >> i have faith that the unelected will support the unelected house will support the elected house in doing what's necessary. >> a quick bit on your man, lee anderson. um, he abstained last night . he, of course, resigned night. he, of course, resigned his his position , along with his his position, along with brendan clarke—smith as deputy chair, and he abstained because people in the labour ney chamber were laughing at him. he's had quite a lot of stick about this. what you got to say? >> um, he's a good mate of mine. >> um, he's a good mate of mine. >> um, he's one of the most honourable, decent men that i've come across, certainly in politics. life, um, he politics. but in life, um, he believes things his believes, uh, things with his heart . heart. >> he believes heart and soul in what he does. whatever does, what he does. whatever he does, he it with honesty, with he does it with honesty, with integrity, for and

integrity, and for the for and the of reasons. the best of reasons. >> and just shows, think, >> and it just shows, i think, more laughing at a more about labour laughing at a man like that who couldn't find a party for a person a place in a party for a person who was honest, who wanted to stand for people, more stand up for people, and more importantly, the importantly, stand up for the people ashfield and what they people of ashfield and what they believe clearly labour >> because clearly the labour party doing a party weren't doing that for a long time. >> the people ashfield >> and the people of ashfield and the tory and the people of the tory shires, different beasts, shires, very different beasts, that's the point, isn't this that's the point, isn't it? this policy had the impossible task in many ways, of trying to please all party members and all politicians. has it done that, or are all the tory party smiling through gritted teeth and faking unity as they did over brexit? well you sort of the basis of that question is that you're sort of a different you're a different human being if you're born in gloucestershire compared to being lancashire, we're being born in lancashire, we're all know that numbers are >> we all know that numbers are too high in terms of immigration. got prime immigration. we've got a prime minister who is the first prime minister, my view, who is minister, in my view, who is determined to fix this. he's brought piece of brought the most robust piece of legislation parliament legislation through parliament and country and his and both the country and his colleagues supported the bonkers thing about all of this, as you

know, 100% of know, martin is 100% of conservative mps support the rwanda policy, support the idea of offshore processing , and this of offshore processing, and this acting as a deterrent to stop people coming over and putting their lives risk in the channel. >> okay. very quickly, james, we take a bet me. a single take a bet with me. a single pint of beer and i happily buy you pint. flight will you a pint. that a flight will take before the next general take off before the next general election. take off before the next general electabsolutely will, but it >> i absolutely will, but it better bottle champagne. >> i absolutely will, but it betta bottle champagne. >> i absolutely will, but it betta single)ottle champagne. >> i absolutely will, but it betta single pintz champagne. >> i absolutely will, but it betta single pint of champagne. >> i absolutely will, but it betta single pint of beer.npagne. not a single pint of beer. >> whatever you want. let's shake that live air, shake hands on that live on air, because i'm taking that bet. james daly. superb. always a pleasure, tory pleasure, barrie. north tory mp, party says. there party unity. james says. there we let's see what we have it. let's see what the people there the people out there think. the people's channel. want to people's channel. we want to know we've know what you think. and we've been about and the been out and about today and the red of leigh in red wall seat of leigh in greater manchester. in 2019, that voted in a that constituency voted in a tory mp for the first time. but do the locals there think the government can stop the boats ? government can stop the boats? >> um, no, not really . >> um, no, not really. >> um, no, not really. >> why not? um just because they've promised other things and they've never really followed up ? followed up? >> i don't think so. why not? um, well , they've they've tried

um, well, they've they've tried to send people back to africa and they've been stopped by law, haven't they? so people will keep coming. they won't . they keep coming. they won't. they can't stop the boats . no. can't stop the boats. no. >> tell me why not? >> tell me why not? >> why not? how many chances of the ad i. how many chances you know. >> well, they're obviously trying to push this rwanda bill through at the minute. do you think they'll be able to accomplish that? >> no, they never will. i don't trust any government to tackle the moment. the immigration at the moment. >> not? >> why not? >> why not? >> think it's too difficult to >> i think it's too difficult to tackle not one country in the in europe's managed to tackle it . europe's managed to tackle it. >> and there we have it . europe's managed to tackle it. >> and there we have it. um, europe's managed to tackle it. >> and there we have it . um, the >> and there we have it. um, the good people of leigh in greater manchester, they don't trust anybody on this anymore . and to anybody on this anymore. and to talk about that now, i'm joined by labour mp for east ham, sir stephen timms. sir stephen, thank you very much for joining us.thank thank you very much for joining us. thank you martin, in the studio. bill got through. studio. so the bill got through. but have made but the labour party have made it clear and they it abundantly clear and they will rid of it at the first will get rid of it at the first opportunity. what's your overall

view of the spectacle? we've seen over the rwanda bill in parliament these last few days? >> well, it has been spectacle. >> that's certainly true. >> that's certainly true. >> i don't think it's going to work even if it gets through parliament and there's a lot of legal somersaults that are going to have be gone through in to have to be gone through in order get through. but if order to get it through. but if it work, the threat to it did work, the threat to remove fewer than 1% of the people coming to the uk , to people coming to the uk, to rwanda, i just don't think that's going to deter 99% are not going to be sent to rwanda . not going to be sent to rwanda. those people who want to come here are going to carry on trying to come. i think this is a fundamentally misconceived approach just going approach which is just not going to the results that the to deliver the results that the government wants to see. to deliver the results that the govso ment wants to see. to deliver the results that the govso went wants to see. to deliver the results that the govso we know1ts to see. to deliver the results that the govso we know you> see. to deliver the results that the govso we know you don't like >> so we know you don't like rwanda. we know that starmer >> so we know you don't like rwand scrap know that starmer >> so we know you don't like rwand scrap knywhat's starmer >> so we know you don't like rwand scrap knywhat's yourner >> so we know you don't like rwand scrap knywhat's your plan would scrap it. what's your plan ? does the labour party want to cut immigration down not? cut immigration down or not? a lot out there believe lot of people out there believe that because of keir starmers association the association before with the people's and his people's vote and his relationship brussels quite relationship with brussels quite close, he he effectively likes open borders or at least high

immigration. do you guys plan to cut it or not? no. >> we certainly are not talking and have never talked about open borders. definitely want and have never talked about open bo stop. definitely want and have never talked about open bo stop the definitely want and have never talked about open bo stop the boats itely want and have never talked about open bo stop the boats coming want and have never talked about open bo stop the boats coming in.nt to stop the boats coming in. you've made the point. people dying in the channel this week that needs to be stopped . but that needs to be stopped. but the way to do it, we think, is quite different to the way the government is doing. and yvette cooper a plan . cooper yesterday set out a plan. we've got to work with european countries, we've got to work with france. we to with france. we need to negotiate access to the sis2 database that we lost at brexit, that will require all of that nafion that will require all of that nation . nation. >> all of that will come at a price. well it needs to be done. >> we need the intelligence from the european countries about the people traffickers. there's been virtually no successful prosecutions of people's traffickers in the last few years . years. >> but that's not for lack of trying. well so how would things be different? >> fail. they fail. we need the intelligence from that database. we need a new returns unit set up that return people who

up that will return people who are entitled to be to here are not entitled to be to here where they came from, and also surely come at a price. >> there's been of talk >> there's been a lot of talk about reciprocal deal with the about a reciprocal deal with the eu. to remove a lot more people. >> the number of people removed from has plummeted across from the uk has plummeted across the board. the policy of this government has been a failure. we need to put that right. and the yvette cooper plan , i think, the yvette cooper plan, i think, is the way to do it. fundamentally different working with countries , setting with other countries, setting up units do the work that's units to do the work that's needed and getting access to the intelligence data so that we can stop the traffickers. >> figure that was mooted, >> one figure that was mooted, stephen, the 100,000, stephen, was the 100,000, because you take percentage because if you take a percentage of the illegals coming into european union, member states across the board, the percentile that we would have to take for any returns, deal with member states of the eu would be 100,000, 100,000. that have breached the borders of europe . breached the borders of europe. how on earth, if that's the route, can we get net migration down? if we take an extra 100 k from the eu? >> we're not talking about a returns deal. we're talking

about working with the authorities in the other european countries, in to european countries, france in to particular, stop the boats coming from calais to the uk. we're talking about getting access to data . do you think access to the data. do you think those are the prizes that france wants the boats leaving wants to stop the boats leaving france? >> f- e the french want to >> why would the french want to stop leaving france? stop people leaving france? they'd be presumably quite happy for britain . they'd be presumably quite happy for there britain . they'd be presumably quite happy for there cooperationtain . they'd be presumably quite happy for there cooperation already, >> there is cooperation already, thankfully, with france we need to build on that. it's not true that they're doing nothing. they're just not doing enough. and the cooperation between the two countries is nothing like sufficient . we've got to do sufficient. we've got to do much, much better. and i'm confident that we can half £1 billion a year, we give to the french at the moment we don't seem to get an awful lot of fruit in return for that . fruit in return for that. >> we've given £400 million to rwanda and absolutely rwanda and got absolutely nothing that . we can nothing so far on that. we can agree. i mean, trying to give the money back. >> and they're >> absolutely. and they're talking £170,000 on top of talking about £170,000 on top of that, £170,000 for every person who gets sent to rwanda. we don't know what's going to happen. apparently going happen. apparently they're going

to rwanda to to be people sent from rwanda to the mean, deal is the uk. i mean, this deal is i think it's hopeless. and yet the government has has made this as the one thing that's going to solve. it's not to solve solve. it's not going to solve the all. the problem at all. >> we agree that it's >> and we all agree that it's small beers compared legal small beers compared to legal migration. what's the labour party's plan for legal migration? >> well , we need to migration? >> well, we need to tighten up. we need to enforce the rules that are in place. as i've said already, there has been a collapse in the number of people who've been refused permission to be here and then removed . to be here and then removed. yeah, far more were removed when labour was in government than have been removed in the last few years . asylum decisions take few years. asylum decisions take years , people. there's 100,000 years, people. there's 100,000 people are waiting in asylum decision at the moment. the system's got to work properly and at the moment it's just collapsed . collapsed. >> just so, stephen, are you confident that you're ready for power? the labour party seem poised for power sometimes. seems that you don't really have to do anything apart from just watch the tories in payload. how will the country better

will the country be better or different labour different under a labour party? >> i think very >> well, i think the very widespread that this widespread view that this government failed the government has has failed the country's really in pretty country's really in a pretty dreadful state and the claim that the conservative party, after 14 years of being in power, is going to fix it is pretty hollow . so keir starmer pretty hollow. so keir starmer has set out a plan. i think it's a compelling plan. he's five missions for a long terme renewal of britain that i think is what we need. we're not going to get a short terme fix. a new labour government is not going to fix things overnight by any means going be a long means. it's going to be a long haul and the priorities that keir has set out above all, increase the rate of productivity growth in the uk, which has really plummeted in the last few years. we've got to get the economy growing again. we've britain we've got to get britain building, we've got to fix the nhs. the other missions that keir has set out kind of keir has set out with kind of cross departmental mission boards deliver on each of boards to deliver on each of those five missions. i think that's the right approach. i think it'll work. it sounds

great, the biscuit tin is empty. >> there's no money left . >> there's no money left. >> there's no money left. >> well, indeed . and i'm afraid >> well, indeed. and i'm afraid we've got a terrible economic record under 14 years of conservative government. and putting that right is going to be the new government's number one priority. if a labour government is elected, getting the economy, firing on all cylinders again is going to be the number one priority. and you're right, that is the key to turning things around. >> superb . stephen timms, labour >> superb. stephen timms, labour for ham . thanks joining for east ham. thanks for joining the mark. the studio. thank you mark. absolutely delightful. thank you. okay. moving on we'll you. okay. moving on 5:00. we'll speak a conservative peer and speak to a conservative peer and ask him if he thinks the house of lords will try to tear the rwanda bill apart. of lords will try to tear the rwanda bill apart . and there's rwanda bill apart. and there's plenty coverage our plenty of coverage on our website , gbnews.com. and you've plenty of coverage on our website makeiews.com. and you've plenty of coverage on our websitemake ith.com. and you've plenty of coverage on our website make it the am. and you've plenty of coverage on our website make it the fastest! you've helped make it the fastest growing national news website in the country . now, chancellor the country. now, chancellor jeremy hunt has told the world economic forum that the uk is, quote, on the up and open for business. but is this important event? is this annual event

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on the migrant crisis, of course, but not in the uk, but in ireland because locals there are absolutely furious after an old market town's only hotel was reserved for, you've guessed , reserved for, you've guessed, for asylum seekers . but before for asylum seekers. but before that, jeremy hunt visits the world economic forum in davos today, making him the first uk chancellor to attend the summit in five years. hunt says he's there to tell the world that britain is a nation of great innovation , is on the up and innovation, is on the up and open for business. but shadow chancellor rachel reeves, who is also at the davos jolly, says labouris also at the davos jolly, says labour is the only way to restore the uk's business reputation . well, joining me now reputation. well, joining me now to discuss this is gb news economics and business editor, liam halligan, with on the money reporter . liam halligan, with on the money reporter. leanne, welcome to the show . always a pleasure. the show. always a pleasure. the annual davos jolly is up and running. the well—heeled and the rich and the famous flock to

switzerland . is it a beano or is switzerland. is it a beano or is there any point to it? >> a beano ? >> a beano? >> a beano? >> when i write about davos , i >> when i write about davos, i often call it a gab fest because it's a talking shop of the global great and the good. politicians like to be seen . politicians like to be seen. >> they're tech titans like to be seen there. >> i've often characterised it as millionaires , watching as millionaires, watching billionaires up on stage. >> um , davos is a is a mountain >> um, davos is a is a mountain village in switzerland, as you say , a very exclusive ski resort say, a very exclusive ski resort . uh, the kind of place that royalty we go skiing . royalty we go skiing. >> uh, and for many years the world economic forum, um , i world economic forum, um, i wouldn't call them opaque, but it's difficult to sort of find out lots and lots about them. it's a kind of, uh, it's a talking shop. it's >> it's a summit. >> it's a summit. >> it's a private sector organisation. but they've managed over many years to generate such an air of exclusivity that lots of people want to go there to see and be

seen. want to go there to see and be seen . but look, jeremy hunt, seen. but look, jeremy hunt, there he is. he has turned up at davos. there he is. he has turned up at davos . it's, there he is. he has turned up at davos. it's, um. it's not, it's usually the british prime minister that goes to davos , but minister that goes to davos, but sunakisnt minister that goes to davos, but sunak isn't there. we'll come on to that. david cameron's there. jeremy hunt talked about artificial intelligence. he said and this will concern some people that he said are artificial intelligence should quote , be very lightly regulated quote, be very lightly regulated . and artificial intelligence of course , is the whole area of course, is the whole area of computers thinking and making decisions for themselves. it's used in finance . it's used to used in finance. it's used to generate those chat gbrt viddi those deep fake videos and so on. it's used to in medicine to build vaccines . there are very build vaccines. there are very good uses of artificial intelligence and used appropriately, it could really boost economic productivity and wealth across the world. but there are dangers. but i thought there are dangers. but i thought the most interesting thing that was said today came from at the davos summit came from rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor. she told the world's great and

the good that labour is, quote, relaxed about wealth creation, sounding a bit like peter mandelson back in the day. she said that labour wants to, quote, reward success. she floated the idea last posited by someone called liz truss , that someone called liz truss, that the tax on the top rate of tax in this country, the 45% rate for people that earn over 100 grand plus that should be lowered under labour, which is a complete reversal of what many people would think , she said. people would think, she said. labouris people would think, she said. labour is now the low tax party again , trying to appeal to again, trying to appeal to international investors and on the side to middle england, if you like. but keir starmer was also there. he was making the point that while he was there, prime minister rishi sunak wasn't and this is what he had to say . to say. >> i think our prime minister should have showed up at davos. >> i absolutely do . um, and one >> i absolutely do. um, and one of the things that's been , um,

of the things that's been, um, you know , impressed on me since you know, impressed on me since i've been here is the absence of the united kingdom. and that's why it's really important that i am here and that our shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, is here as a statement intent , here as a statement of intent, that should be that that should there be a change of government, and i hope there will be the united kingdom will play its part on the global stage in a way, i think it probably hasn't in recent years . probably hasn't in recent years. >> liam , um, underlying the >> liam, um, underlying the other worldly side, um, dissociation from reality that we see at davos. look at this video on screen here of what appears to be an amazonian tribal leader performing some sort of bizarre ritual . sort of bizarre ritual. >> i don't know why . why should >> i don't know why. why should i? woof, woof woof. >> woo . >> woo. >> woo. >> you know, it's funny, liam,

only a few years ago, they were wearing full surgical face masks for covid. now, some tribeswoman is blowing in their face on stage . yes, indeed. is blowing in their face on stagand yes, indeed. is blowing in their face on stagand iss, indeed. is blowing in their face on stagand i noticed d. is blowing in their face on stagand i noticed that too. >> and i noticed that too. martin and elon musk, of course, the tesla founder, the mogul that bought twitter and which is now x, he actually took to twitter to make fun . not of twitter to make fun. not of that, um, amazonian tribal leader for one minute, but he used it to make fun of davos itself. the kind of weirdness of having all these incredibly wealthy people all asking an indigenous american, if you like to come to davos to give them some kind of spiritual guidance. he actually very cheekily said, ah, elizabeth warren is in davos now, who's elizabeth warren? elizabeth warren is a democrat in america , a former in america, a former presidential candidate who made the claim that she was i think it was one eighth native american. in order to sort of appeal to the, um, a certain branch of the american electorate, it turned out that

she wasn't native american at all. and so donald trump christened her pocahontas of course. um, the name of the cartoon character , the young cartoon character, the young female native american , uh, so female native american, uh, so beloved at least by my children when they were kids. so look, it's all fun and games. um, davos likes to take itself extremely seriously. the people that go there , and i've actually that go there, and i've actually been there in the past in another i guess that ship another life. i guess that ship sailed so, they like to sailed now. so, um, they like to take themselves very seriously. sailed now. so, um, they like to take of emselves very seriously. sailed now. so, um, they like to take of course,3s very seriously. sailed now. so, um, they like to take of course, it'sary seriously. sailed now. so, um, they like to take of course, it's human)usly. sailed now. so, um, they like to take of course, it's human nature and of course, it's human nature to poke fun at that. if you haven't actually been invited . haven't actually been invited. but keir starmers there. rishi sunak isn't. maybe rishi sunak thinks that that's better , given thinks that that's better, given what he's going through in the house of commons. so both. >> thank you liam halligan the weird world of davos. okay, now it's weird world of davos. okay, now wsfime weird world of davos. okay, now it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst

martin thank you. >> the top stories. we start with a bit of breaking news concerning a man who's been arrested in connection with the alleged escape of daniel khalife . if you remember, he's the 22 year old former british army soldier who escaped wandsworth pfison soldier who escaped wandsworth prison in september by allegedly strapping himself to the underside of a food delivery vehicle and has been accused. this arrested man of leaking sensitive information to iranian intelligence . he's set to face intelligence. he's set to face trial in october next year, so that breaking news just in to us that breaking news just in to us that the 22 year old former soldier who escaped wandsworth prison , um, last september to prison, um, last september to um, now a man has been arrested in connection with that alleged escape. and we have some more breaking news for you as well. let's bring you the very latest on the story about the little boy, bronson battersby. well, we're hearing now , i can we're hearing now, i can scarcely believe that i'm going to say this to you, that burglars are reported to have

broken into the home of the toddler, bronson battersby. just hours after he and his father's bodies were discovered , bodies were discovered, according to the daily mail. we're learning that thieves broke into the home and stole a wallet belonging to the dead father kenneth battersby, who'd suffered a heart attack , as well suffered a heart attack, as well as some of his medication . he as some of his medication. he left the toddler, of course, on his own. you may remember the story that we broke bronson, battersby, battersby , his battersby, battersby, his mother, has been telling social media that her son was just two inches too small to reach the fridge to get access to food that could have saved his life. nevertheless, a tragic story leaving both the little boy and his father dead. but now we're learning. burglars have broken into their home in skegness and we wait to hear how police treat that story . in other news today, that story. in other news today, the prime minister is calling on the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill. rishi sunak, who says he's determined to control the uk's borders , spoke

control the uk's borders, spoke to officials at gatwick airport this afternoon. he said to highlight the importance of border security, the third reading of that bill, designed to stop those last minute pyjama injunctions passed through the commons on amended last night, dozens of tories had threatened to rebel, but in the end it passed and mr sunak insisted the vote showed his party was completely unified . meanwhile, completely unified. meanwhile, the aslef union has announced train drivers will go on strike for five days next month. eleanor drivers will walk out from february the 5th in their long running dispute over pay. that latest action, in addition to a series of walkouts against train operators across england previously announced by the union. lots of background to all those stories. by heading straight to our website, gbnews.com a full bulletin for you. top of the hour. >> thank you polly. now this time yesterday we were reeling after finding out that the king

and the princess of wales are both suffering from health problems. that story broke less than two hours after it emerged that the princess of wales had had abdominal surgery . prince had abdominal surgery. prince william visited her in hospital today and she'll spend up to three months away from royal duties. three months away from royal dufies.the three months away from royal duties. the prince of wales has cleared his diary to care for his wife and children , so with his wife and children, so with three senior royals out of action, it poses the big question what does the royal family do now ? and there's no family do now? and there's no better person to answer that than the royal correspondent and writer michael cole. michael always a pleasure to speak with you.so always a pleasure to speak with you. so that's the big question. big boots to fill. who's going to step up ? to step up? >> good afternoon martin. >> good afternoon martin. >> well, of course it's an excellent question . excellent question. >> it's been the purpose of the king to slim down the royal family and perhaps a couple of years ago, there would be 15 leading members of the royal family who might be taking a turn and pulling their weight

and doing their royal duties. >> now that's down to 11, what with the departure over to california of the duke and duchess of sussex . duchess of sussex. >> um, and of course, things are looking a little bit threadbare at the moment with the king due to go into hospital next, next week for his prostate procedure. >> and sadly, the princess of wales and catherine in hospital at the moment. wales and catherine in hospital at the moment . one wales and catherine in hospital at the moment. one thing to say about that, i think , uh, martin, about that, i think, uh, martin, is that, um , we know a little is that, um, we know a little bit, but we don't know everything . we don't know really everything. we don't know really what is going on, and nor should we, because it's a private matter . uh, we, because it's a private matter. uh, of we, because it's a private matter . uh, of course, the matter. uh, of course, the princess of wales is a public person. she's a member of the royal family. but but she's also a mother, a wife, a daughter and a mother, a wife, a daughter and a sister. and any woman in that position would wish to have privacy and should have privacy and we shall give her that

privacy when the royal family wishes to make more known about her condition, i'm sure they will. all, uh, the prince of wales, who we see there . he went wales, who we see there. he went to visit today . i wales, who we see there. he went to visit today. i think it was indicative that he didn't come out to see the massed ranks of the press and the nikon choir there , uh, to give a statement. there, uh, to give a statement. i think as she improves and she's going to be in hospital up to two weeks, uh, as , as she to two weeks, uh, as, as she improves. and i hope she does very rapidly. i'm sure he will come out and make a short statement on the pavement there . statement on the pavement there. and if the condition of the princess of wales improves , and princess of wales improves, and here we see her again on another hospital visit. um, i'm sure the children will also go down to see her at the london clinic at the top end of harley street. after she fully recovers , uh, after she fully recovers, uh, she will convalesce initially at

windsor at adelaide cottage, where they have a house in the grounds . they will stay there, grounds. they will stay there, i think, because the children are at school and she will want to be close to her children. although having said that, it's not an absolutely ideal place. um a former tenant of adelaide , um a former tenant of adelaide, adelaide cottage, uh, was mrs. rosemary townsend, the wife of group captain peter townsend , group captain peter townsend, who famously had an affair with princess margaret. and she wrote in her memoirs that it was the coldest place she'd ever encountered in the whole of her life . so maybe not the best life. so maybe not the best place to start feeling better , place to start feeling better, particularly in this quite cold winter that we're enjoying at the moment . the moment. >> but and michael, you mentioned there the exile , uh, mentioned there the exile, uh, prince andrew, of course, effectively been decommissioned. thanks. the epstein scandal and the sussexes. harry and meghan, wouldn't this have been a wonderful opportunity for them to have been able to step up to the plate? in fact , they now the plate? in fact, they now find themselves spare in hollywood. and this underlines

their obsolescence in a way . their obsolescence in a way. >> well, you've said it in one, haven't you? uh, it shows the sadness and i would say the regrettable decision that they've made because as, let's face it, prince harry was an extremely popular member of the family. he was an extremely effective member of the family. he speaks well. he's hugely sincere in what he says and does, and he could be stepping up right now helping his father, helping his brother, being there because prince william, quite rightly, has said that he's cutting back his schedule so that he can be close to his wife and look after his children at this difficult time because make no mistake about it, martin, this is not a minor matter. this is a serious matter. we don't know exactly what it is for kate , princess of wales, but it's obviously serious because hospitals these days don't keep people in for two weeks. as soon as they're ambulatory, as soon as they're ambulatory, as soon as they're ambulatory, as soon as they can walk, they're they're out of the door and

they're out of the door and they're home to convalesce. so this is a serious matter. and wouldn't it have been good for prince harry to have supported his brother and his family and his brother and his family and his sister in law instead of allowing a very un unkind and cruel things to be said about kate ? uh, in both his books bare kate? uh, in both his books bare and in books which appear appear to have been written with his approval. if not cooperate . so approval. if not cooperate. so that's all very sad, and i am wondering , sitting on their wondering, sitting on their hilltop fortress in california, how they are pondering this turn of events because they would have had a chance to star and it , in the absence of the king in hospital and the princess of wales in hospital, they would have had a chance to pick up the slack to become to be shown to be pulling their weight and to have won a place in the hearts of the british people , and to of the british people, and to have done some good jobs in this

country. because my goodness , country. because my goodness, there's enough to do . there's enough to do. >> okay, michael cole well, maybe they'll have plenty of time to ponder because by the sounds of it, their diaries are pretty empty, too. michael cole always a pleasure to you on always a pleasure to have you on the show . now, be on the show. now, we might be on the show. now, we might be on the entering another the brink of entering another war the middle east, but the war in the middle east, but the big is our military big question is, is our military even fit for purpose ? there's even fit for purpose? there's plenty of evidence that that's not the case. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel.

news. the people's channel, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back. it's 445. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now. 5:00 we've got the latest on the government's plans to send migrants to rwanda , as rishi migrants to rwanda, as rishi sunak urges the lords to do the right thing . now, here's a right thing. now, here's a question for you is the military fit for purpose? there's growing concerns that the army, the navy and the air force are all simple , too weak. and this is at a time when we're getting involved once again in the middle east conflict that seems to get bigger and more serious with every passing day. well, to discuss this, i'm joined now by lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, who's a defence analyst and a former british army officer. welcome to the show , lieutenant stuart crawford show, lieutenant stuart crawford . this is a hugely concerning issue. an article today by the

defence editor of the daily telegraph saying our army is being cut by 9000 to 73,000 next yeah being cut by 9000 to 73,000 next year. the smallest level since the napoleonic era. the raf has taken a 50% cut under the conservatives the smallest at any time since the first world war. and yet we find ourselves seemingly hurtling towards more conflicts. how on earth did this happen ? uh good afternoon martin. >> uh, the short answer to your question is how did this happen ? question is how did this happen? >> is that we have had a series of elected representatives and prime ministers who are not really interested in defence because they're aren't usually in peacetime, any votes in it. and that has been exacerbated by a series over the same time penod a series over the same time period of weak and timid military senior leaders who have, for whatever reason , have, for whatever reason, either been unwilling or unable to represent the services properly in the political arena. and so we end up with armed

forces, which in my opinion, are not really a fit for role. certainly not in any scale whatsoever. >> and you're absolutely right to point. i mean, you know, the army for example, my former employer hasn't fulfilled its recruiting figures since 2010, which is a appalling indictment on the way things are being run. >> and it's as you know, it's been contracted out to capita who are useless at it. i mean, just useless . uh, and there's no just useless. uh, and there's no two bones about it. i can't i haven't found anybody who is a good thing to say about them in that capacity. so that that's the sorry story of it, where we've just taken our eye off the ball . ball. >> and stuart, there's another astonishing story yesterday. we have a recruitment crisis because it's too slow. it takes 150 days to go through the medical process, in which time a lot of the young lads and ladies simply clear off and do something else. and also the medical are too tough. the fitness is too tough, and they're even turning people away

with tattoos . with tattoos. >> yes , i mean, i've read all >> yes, i mean, i've read all that stuff, some of that is populist , that stuff, some of that is populist, uh, opinion, of course . uh, but there's no doubt that the recruitment process takes far too long. um, i think it's perfectly acceptable to have a three or possibly four month, uh , hiatus between applying and attending selection . but, uh, attending selection. but, uh, anecdotally , i've heard from anecdotally, i've heard from people who've 18 months the process has taken. and of course, you're quite right. young people are not going to wait that long to get into regular employment. i wouldn't wait that long to get into regular employment , wait that long to get into regular employment, and all of it is down to capita. capita are in charge of the whole process up selection . and that up to selection. and that includes , uh, documentation. uh includes, uh, documentation. uh medical examinations, etc, etc. and they're just not up to the job. >> okay. thanks forjoining us. sobering vision there, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford . it just makes you crawford. it just makes you wonder if we were suddenly dragged into war. could we even

fight or raise an armed forces ? fight or raise an armed forces? it's just astonishing, really, when you think about it now, it's not just the uk that's in the grip of a migrant crisis. the having similar problems over in ireland . and earlier this in ireland. and earlier this week, protesters clashed with police while asylum seekers were being taken into a hotel in roscrea in county tipperary . roscrea in county tipperary. erg, the old market town , has a erg, the old market town, has a population of just over 5000, but the rackets hall hotel is set to provide accommodation for around 160 more migrants. set to provide accommodation for around 160 more migrants . well, around 160 more migrants. well, to discuss this, i'm joined now by kevin maher, who's a commentator on irish politics. welcome to the show, kevin. we always seem to talk about the same thing when we talk on this show. and it's once again, the irish people rising up in resistance against what they see as extremely unfair levels of immigration. they're telling us ireland is full and yet we have a political class, leo varadkar the premier saying nobody in a

democracy has the right to veto who moves into their area , and who moves into their area, and never the twain shall meet . never the twain shall meet. >> you've explained it very well there. i mean, the nub of this issue is that you've got a kind of elite dublin opinion in the kind of elite, you know, the political class in dublin. >> so the government is comprised of three political parties fail , comprised of three political parties fail, fine gael parties fianna fail, fine gael and the greens. parties fianna fail, fine gael and the greens . and it's taken and the greens. and it's taken a very lax approach to immigration over , over the last few years. over, over the last few years. and that elite opinion is set against public opinion in ireland , which is now saying ireland, which is now saying 3 in 4 voters are saying we've had enough. really? um, we were quite happy to take in some ukrainian and we're quite happy to take in a certain level of migration 85% of irish people surveyed said they'd be quite happy to live next door to a muslim family. so within reason, people are saying can deal people are saying we can deal with migration , but the with some migration, but the scale it that we're scale of it that we're now facing is just too much, and we've have a lot less of we've got to have a lot less of it. what irish government it. what the irish government is doing to palm off its

doing is trying to palm off its dispersal policy onto all these small irish towns all across rural ireland, 12% of irish hotel rooms at the moment are taken out of capacity to because because of asylum seekers and what have you. there's whole areas of ireland for tourism reasons you can't even get to anymore. so. so these people are saying look, enough is enough. it's having effect it's having a really bad effect on us. ireland is also in the grip of a major housing crisis. it's not enough being it's not enough houses being built, rents very high built, very high rents very high house prices. these all these issues are collapsing together and saying we've had and people are saying we've had enough. it's that point of enough. and it's that point of there is no democratic consent for the scale and the pace of migration that ireland is deaung migration that ireland is dealing with. and that's that's really starting to grind now. i think with irish voters and, kevin, immigration to ireland rose by 32% year on year to more than 140,000, and locals there are saying there are five gps in the town . the town. >> they can't get appointments. they're all full, they can't get doctors appointments. patients

are on trolleys in limerick's hospitals and there are 33 children in classrooms sizes. they're simply saying the area cannot cope. they're not being far right or racist. they're saying we cannot accept the numbers like this . numbers like this. >> i mean, there were a lot of viewers listening to us talk about this and think, well, actually, a lot of these issues are germane to what goes are quite germane to what goes on in britain well. but the on in britain as well. but the pace what's happening pace of what's happening in ireland dwarfs ireland kind of dwarfs anything that ireland's that we're used to. ireland's got population got a population southern ireland, ireland ireland, the republic of ireland has of about has got a population of about 5 million people. and for the second year it's had second year in a row it's had immigration levels at 100,000. now to now you don't need to be a mathematician that mathematician to work out that within one generation you could have where every have a situation where every other in southern ireland other person in southern ireland is born . so. this is not irish born. so. so this is not irish born. so. so this is profound change, as i say, is a profound change, as i say, without that fundamental democratic consent, a democratic consent, there's a general coming this general election coming this autumn immigration is going general election coming this au be1n immigration is going general election coming this au be wrapped1migration is going general election coming this au be wrapped1migrup»n is going general election coming this au be wrapped1migrup»n is gas|g to be wrapped right up there as a top concern of irish voters. and it's going to become a very, very noisy 2024 on this issue in irish. in irish politics. but, you know, fundamentally you

can't as i say, you can't have the public in one place and the political elite in another place, and particularly when that is not that political elite just is not listening to what people are saying they've got very, saying when they've got very, very considerations very practical considerations around access to public services , access to, to, to to, jobs and access to housing where there is access to housing where there is a housing crisis as well. so it's all collapsing in on and creating a right political mess. okay >> kevin moll, thank you very much for joining that much for joining us on that topic. and it's not topic. and in fact, it's not a case them not even agreeing . case of them not even agreeing. the premier varadkar openly the premier leo varadkar openly and repeatedly calls anybody who who protests or resist this as far right . and it's causing far right. and it's causing huge, huge division in the country . and i just don't know country. and i just don't know what they're going to do about it. it really makes it seem like a tea party. what's going on over here? and that's saying something has something that rishi sunak has told to frustrate the told laws not to frustrate the will of the people by trying to block bill, but will block his rwanda bill, but will it be like brexit round and round we go again. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel

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gb news. >> and good afternoon. it's 5 pm. welcome to the martin p.m. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news live from westminster and broadcasting all over britain . broadcasting all over britain. in this hour we'll be looking back on rishi sunaks stands, telling the house of lords not to interfere with with last night's rwanda bill. i'll be joined in the studio by chris hope and, and also to my left here, lord robert hayward, conservative to talk that through. can we truss out the

lords to put this through to do the right thing as rishi sunak says, or are we heading for a repeat of those dark days of brexit where they simply won't stop meddling ? stop meddling? >> will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people , as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing and to underline this issue 621 migrants have arrived to britain in just five days. >> will. that's promised to stop the boats , come back to haunt the boats, come back to haunt rishi sunak also in this hour, the king, of course, has an enlarged prostate and has been very open about that . in this very open about that. in this hour i'll be talking to somebody from cancer, from prostate uk and to talk about why this has been a superb moment for getting men to talk about their physical health. and after a head teacher

is taken to the high court after banning the muslim prayer in her school, i'll be asking the big question should britain go like france and kick religion out of all of our schools? that's coming in your next hour. so let's talk about that big debate. do you think it's time to kick religion out of schools? it seems to cause an awful lot of problems. remember the batley grammar school? we've seen korans desecrated to causing all sorts of bother. is it time to get it out and follow the french ? let me know your thoughts on that. the usual ways gbviews@gbnews.com. first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . martin. >> thank you and good afternoon to you. well, let's bring you some more detail on that breaking news. we brought you

about an hour ago. a man about half an hour ago. a man has been arrested in connection with the alleged escaped prisoner, khalife. the 22 prisoner, daniel khalife. the 22 year old former british army soldier reportedly escaped from wandsworth in south wandsworth prison in south london last september by strapping himself to the underside a food delivery underside of a food delivery truck. the arrested man has been accused of leaking sensitive information to iranian intelligence once, and is set to face trial in october this year as well, and further detail on that other piece of breaking news that we had for you about half an hour ago that burglars are to have broken into are reported to have broken into the the toddler, bronson the home of the toddler, bronson battersby in lincolnshire, just hours after he and his father's bodies were discovered. gb news east midlands reporter will hollis is at the scene. the latest details in a disturbing story that has shocked the nafion story that has shocked the nation are that thieves broke into the home of bronson battersby and his father kenny, who had been found dead there. >> here in skegness, just just hours after social services made

the discover three. it's said in the discover three. it's said in the daily mail that they stole money and pills from the dead family. now this is something that has been confirmed and that an investigation is underway by lincolnshire police in a story that has not only shocked social services but shocked the nation as well . as well. >> will hollis , now the prime >> will hollis, now the prime minister, has called on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill. rishi sunak , his rwanda bill. rishi sunak, who says he's determined to control the uk's borders. we're speaking to officials at gatwick airport this afternoon to highlight, he said. the importance of border security . importance of border security. the third reading of the rwanda bill, meanwhile, designed to stop those last minute pyjama injunctions preventing the removal of asylum seekers passed through the house of commons unamended last night, with a majority of 44 dozens of tories had threatened to rebel. but in the end only 11 voted against

it. mr sunak insists the vote shows his party is completely united. and he says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority . an urgent national priority. >> he there is now only one question when will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people, as expressed by the elected house, or will they get on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that. we have a plan, and the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down, not just down by a bit, small boat arrivals went down, not just down by a bit , down by not just down by a bit, down by a third, compared to crossings in the year before . in the year before. >> well, the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirmed a 358. the number of people were intercepted trying to cross the engush intercepted trying to cross the english channel yesterday in eight separate small boats that means 621 people have arrived in the uk, so far this year. in the

month of january, despite two weeks of poor weather. >> in other news, the aslef union has announced train drivers will go on for strike five days next month . five days next month. >> lner drivers will walk out from february the 5th in their long running dispute over pay. the latest action is in addition to a series of walkouts against train operators across england, previously announced by the union , and thousands of jobs are union, and thousands of jobs are at risk , as tata steel has at risk, as tata steel has decided to push ahead with their plans to close both blast furnaces at its port talbot plant in south wales. the decision comes despite unions today putting forward proposals aimed at saving jobs, which tata has rejected . the redundancies has rejected. the redundancies to be completed by march next yean to be completed by march next year, will see three quarters of the 4000 staff on site at risk of losing their jobs. unions of losing theirjobs. unions will then consult their members on the situation with industrial action not being ruled out but shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock says talks need

to be had to solve the situation i >> steelworks is the beating heart of the community. >> steelworks is the beating heart of the community . and of heart of the community. and of the economy, not just in talbot but right across south wales, the rest of wales. indeed the united kingdom. >> it's the lifeblood of so many of the different parts of our life , from the cars that we life, from the cars that we drive, the buildings that we work in, the trains that we travel on, even the cutlery that we use. we use. >> we use. >> i would therefore urge tata steel to sit down and listen very carefully to what the multi—union are saying to them . multi—union are saying to them. >> well, tens of thousands of pubuc >> well, tens of thousands of public sector workers are on strike in what's being billed as northern ireland's biggest walkout in recent history . who walkout in recent history. who do we want to know ? do we want to know? >> what do we want ? where do we >> what do we want? where do we want it now ? want it now? >> schools have closed , public >> schools have closed, public transport is limited, and hospitals are only offering christmas day level. they say services as teachers, transport

and healthcare workers walk off the job. their demand for more pay the job. their demand for more pay comes as a stalemate remains in stormont after politicians failed to elect a speaker. they've called for the northern ireland secretaries intervention to release funds, but chris heaton—harris has refused, saying that the matter is a devolved one. royal news and the prince of wales has visited his wife in hospital, where she's recovering from planned abdominal surgery . prince abdominal surgery. prince william was seen leaving the private london clinic this afternoon . soon princess afternoon. soon princess catherine is said to be doing very well after her procedure , very well after her procedure, which was carried out on tuesday, but it is expected she'll remain in hospital for a couple of weeks . meanwhile, her couple of weeks. meanwhile, her majesty the queen has said his majesty the queen has said his majesty the queen has said his majesty the king is looking fine and is looking forward to getting back to work as he awaits treatment for an enlarged prostate. the 75 year old monarch says he is keen to go pubuc monarch says he is keen to go public with his condition to encourage other men to get checked . this is gb news across

checked. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> thank you. paulie now has only one place to start. of course, this afternoon it's the fallout from the government's win on the rwanda bill last night, a dramatic evening and rishi sunak has out rishi sunak has come out fighting already today, he told the house of lords to do the right thing and not frustrate the will of the people. does that remind you of anything? well, i'm joined now by gb news political editor christopher hope, in studio, hope, and also in the studio, the conservative and the conservative life peer and pollster lord robert hayward. thank you both for joining pollster lord robert hayward. thank you both forjoining us. thank you both for joining us. chris let's start with you. what we called it right. they limped through, not quite rout through, not quite the rout victory. we expected because that rebellion withered away from 60 to 11. one the big question now is what happens next. >> well , next. >> well, robert next. >> well , robert hayward, lord

>> well, robert hayward, lord hayward will tell us shortly what he thinks happened next. a 44 majority, though, for the pm is pretty good. there needs a big majority at third reading in order to show the house of lords as the will of the parliament of house of commons. forgive me is behind legislation behind this legislation and that's much. that's why i'm matters so much. this was not in the party's this idea was not in the party's manifesto the so—called manifesto in 2019. the so—called salisbury convention won't apply , so the lords could challenge it and be quite difficult with this. but it's much harder with a big majority . so think it's a big majority. so i think it's interesting. the clip that we had the news polly had there on the news with polly , some very , um, the pm used some very distinct language. he said this is elected house is what the elected house of lords let's see what the lords wants. let's see what the appoint the elected house of commons wants. let's see what the appointed house of lords wants. the point we're wants. the point is, we're elected. they're have elected. they're not. they have no oppose what we want. no right to oppose what we want. and of legitimacy , and it's an idea of legitimacy, i hear played a i think you'll hear played out a lot unelected lords lot. why can the unelected lords frustrate the will of the people? that's the whole tone going forward. yeah. >> and i think at this point, can i please turn to you, lord hayward, because this is again, echoes of brexit, where there's

a huge feeling that the, the electorate wanted the politicians to enforce brexit, the politicians, in the end reluctantly agree. but the lords did all they could to stop it. the big question now is will history repeat itself ? will the history repeat itself? will the lords? will the lords go a leaping against rwanda ? leaping against rwanda? >> i think there is a big difference between a brexit referendum and this piece of legislation. as chris has just said , there was a clear margin said, there was a clear margin yesterday, bigger than people expected generally. certainly the journalists to whom i'd spoken beforehand were not expecting a majority of 44. >> what the lords does and the commons should do better but doesn't is review and revise legislation to ensure that it's good legislation. >> it's going to involve some very lengthy debates in the lords, actually sits later, more often than the commons already. and i imagine that we will sit well into the night on a number

of occasions over the next few weeks to get the legislation through . there will be through. there will be objections quite naturally . objections quite naturally. you've got experts in all sorts of fields in the lords. that's what they're for . but at what they're there for. but at the of the day , it will the end of the day, it will probably go back to the commons with will then with amendments and it will then be for the commons to decide whether enter into what's whether we enter into what's called pong , which is the called ping pong, which is the process in effectively of negotiation between the lords and the commons, a painful process . process. >> process. >> painful game of ping >> it's a painful game of ping pong, chris. and again, it's back to that thing of kate hoey when on the show a few when she was on the show a few weeks ago. she's she's in there. she called it a house of remainers. going see remainers. are we going to see the will of the people frustrated again? >> i doubt it, it might take >> i doubt it, but it might take some time. mean, lord hayward, some time. i mean, lord hayward, i'd to ask you how long i'd love to ask you how long that will because in the that will take, because in the press conference i was out with the minister today. he was the prime minister today. he was asked by the daily asked repeatedly by the daily mail, a channel 4, when will mail, by a channel 4, when will the first flights off? if the first flights take off? if we've bet, a joke bet we've got a bet, a joke bet haven't a pint of beer with haven't we? a pint of beer with the pm for any to take off this

yean the pm for any to take off this year, said. well, i want the year, he said. well, i want the lord to get this done. he said it's terms. it's it's a he used the terms. it's an national priority 80 an urgent national priority 80 for to get this through. for lords to get this through. how long the lords take? how long will the lords take? >> please call me robert. but yes, as far as i'm concerned, the lords will sit. uh, we've been warned informally , but at been warned informally, but at some stage formally by our whips to expect to be there long time on many a day, and i the. how late? >> like 4 am. 3 am. how late? >> unnoticed . just before >> unnoticed. just before christmas, we were there well beyond 2:00 in the morning on different matters . different matters. >> so it's not something we're unused to. um, and they will also they have the opportunity to start earlier in the day, which we've also done on other pieces of legislation where now. so we will review, we will revise . i disagree, i get on revise. i disagree, i get on very well with kate hoey, but people don't take the view in the lords because they're remainers . remainers. >> they take the view that they want to look at good legislation

on, which doesn't have of accidental implications , visions accidental implications, visions and there's any number of different ways that can be had. draft eating nowadays is not good, particularly when it's donein good, particularly when it's done in a hurry, and this has been done pretty rapidly. so therefore we'll be looked at. >> we will have long sessions most days , lots of votes , but it most days, lots of votes, but it will go back to the commons. >> will it be watered down. because every everything of this nature that seems to be proffered before the lords tends to defanged , it to have its to be defanged, it tends to become softer. it tends to become. how do you say more augned to become. how do you say more aligned with the of the aligned with the will of the european of rights european court of human rights and my question is if this was limping past the rebels and it comes back even watered more, watered down again, round and round we go, i'm not sure i accept the terms watered down. >> i understand what you're trying to say, but there is a group you know, there's a lot of people in the lords, not just you can put up the bogeys in

relation to a european courts of human rights and all the rest of it, but there is the question of the role of the supreme court and ultimately the overwhelming majority of the population take the view that we still have to exist by the rule of law. and that's what our people will be looking at. >> the problem the pm has got , >> the problem the pm has got, uh, robert and the tories have is that no one believes it's going to work. i was going to ask you a question for gb news viewers in this press conference today. ask philip today. i was going to ask philip from yorkshire, who emailed from west yorkshire, who emailed gb views at gb news. com he said there's more chance of me winning the lottery than one person being sent to rwanda. and i don't play the lottery . i was i don't play the lottery. i was going to ask that question of the prime minister. we have gone out streets the uk to out on the streets of the uk to ask question. let's have ask that question. let's have a have a listen to they have a listen to what they had to say. >> probably me winning the lottery , probably at the moment, lottery, probably at the moment, me winning the lottery , i'd have thought. >> but we'll see what the house of has to say. coming up .

of lords has to say. coming up. oh well, i studied maths at university four years, university for four years, so i'm certain it's me i'm pretty certain it's me winning winning winning the lottery, me winning the lottery. >> i think . i mean, probably the >> i think. i mean, probably the latter option. someone being sent to rwanda most probably. but um, absolutely. >> me winning the lottery, it's never going go through . never going to go through. >> an asylum seeker >> i'd say an asylum seeker being sent to rwanda by the government. i probably the asylum seeker getting sent to rwanda. >> i would say i'm not a maths expert. >> 20% of all of that straw poll on london's south bank, it looks like so cynical thought they could get off. well, if by lottery ticket. if you believe in happening well , the i think in happening well, the i think the important thing is that the prime minister is making absolutely clear and he's had a good success in terms of the size of majority in the commons that he wants to drive this on to achieve the objective, which he believes is necessary. >> and the will of the house of commons has been identify , died. commons has been identify, died. but that to say that is not to

make a threat to the lords, it's just to identify the position as it stands and we'll work on what do you think? >> what would you think you've got more chance to win the lottery migrant being flown lottery or a migrant being flown to rwanda year. your to rwanda this year. what's your answer to rwanda this year. what's your answthink there will be >> i think there will be a flight rwanda at some stage. flight to rwanda at some stage. >> many people will be on >> how many people will be on it? i think it? i don't know, but i think there maybe a home there will be maybe a home secretary be on it. secretary will be on it. >> the important thing the objective. >> after all, someone is not to get large numbers of people out there. >> it's to be a deterrent to the cross—channel gangs. >> and that's the objective. may i ask you? >> yeah, as well as the late nights. how many late nights, how how long weeks, months. >> it won't be months. >> it won't be months. >> there's no question. >> there's no question. >> it will be done at a pace. >> it will be done at a pace. >> the government whips will enter into negotiation with the other whips. >> and if there are palpably efforts . by a group of people, efforts. by a group of people, whether they are within the liberal democrats or wherever, if there is a palpable effort to

delay the legislation , then we delay the legislation, then we will find ways of resolving that issue . if, however, there are issue. if, however, there are there's just serious consideration . ocean of issues consideration. ocean of issues as we go through it, that's a different matter . and we will different matter. and we will just sit late and long and that's likely it is likely likely. >> yeah. well i was going to ask you to, to martin's question is that, you know, we're mid, mid, mid january. do think the mid january. do you think the end february we'll sit end of february we'll sit back back in the commons. would back in the commons. what would you you see. to be you what would you see. to be honest haven't, haven't honest i haven't, i haven't looked at legislation myself looked at the legislation myself . complicated. . it's not very complicated. it's short. it's very short. >> not a lawyer and not >> i am not a lawyer and not i know what the objective of is. >> and i support in broad principle that objective what the. >> it's very easy to say, well, a clause one clause bill is easy, but one clause bill is generally we are so broad brush yes that they accidentally include all sorts of things which weren't intended. >> but you're going to face the

issue of the enemies of the people. >> that's why i think i mean that, of course, related to controversially, robert to supreme court judges frustrating brexit we'll see at the time. brexit as we'll see at the time. you're going to get into that place. i think maybe if it goes the way, if the house of the wrong way, if the house of lords, the risk for the lords, that's the risk for the for the whole, the whole chamber. >> but but the prime minister chamber. >> imadet the prime minister chamber. >> imadet the primeandiister chamber. >> imadet the primeand ister chamber. >> imadet the primeand i assume has made very clear and i assume that done it. and noticed that he's done it. and i noticed that he's done it. and i noticed that prentis was sat that victoria prentis was sat next him on a number of next door to him on a number of occasions debates in occasions during the debates in the legal advice the last few days, legal advice has taken to, and he said has been taken to, and he said that we'll deal with the supreme court views . that we'll deal with the supreme court views. uh, that we'll deal with the supreme court views . uh, the supreme court views. uh, the supreme court views. uh, the supreme court operates very effectively as far as i'm concerned. >> if it took the right action in relation to boris's attempt to prorogue parliament, if the courts of the land are crucial to our constitution. >> so , yes, look at it in detail i >> -- >> well, i don't know precisely when it will come out. the whips and the experts will have a better view on it. but it will

better view on it. but it will be done at a pace to ensure that the prime minister can get his wish, that it's gone through ping wish, that it's gone through ping pong and is complete . ping pong and is complete. >> and lord hayward, the phrase do the right thing is an opportunity for those liberal democrats and for the likes of baroness chakrabarti doing the right thing in their mind. will be to try and derail this. and if that starts happening and i'm sorry to bring up brexit again, but i've got the wounds i've still, if that's what i have, the electorate will start to ask those bigger what's those bigger questions. what's the house lords for? if all the house of lords for? if all it's doing is frustrating the electorate? >> once again, you've got to differentiate between two things. >> one is a deliberate attempt to frustrate the views of the house of commons. >> but angela smith is leader of the house of lords. >> is absolutely clear. we're there to review and revise . there to review and revise. >> so you on the one side got that group who might want to frustrate it, but there is the vast bulk of peers in all the

different parties who actually want to produce good legislation i >> -- >> on the point to make is , of >> on the point to make is, of course, we should make to viewers, shouldn't we? the government does not have a majority in the house of lords. that big problem. i mean, that is the big problem. i mean, it be said that it needs to be said that repeatedly. i think there's a third it's a third or quarter. >> it's tory quarter. » n-s quarter. >> it's the tory >> it's of tory peers, the tory peers the whole number. it's peers of the whole number. it's about now. about 40% now. >> we are the largest group >> it's we are the largest group . we have the largest larger numeric margin over the labour party than any major party has ever had over the. >> but you're still in a minority , still a minority. minority, still a minority. >> and that's a recipe for tactical all voting. tactical manoeuvring to frustrate the government. >> is that a lords thing? >> is that a lords thing? >> i'm sorry to be so cynical, but this is the house of israel is often elderly people . is often elderly people. >> only tactical people on a second. hang on a second. okay sorry, i'm quite willing to enter a race with both of you. >> um , go on about the majority

>> um, go on about the majority of the mps , of the peers who of the mps, of the peers who participate do so because they specialise in a subject they will give of their best in what they believe to be the best interests of the country. this doesn't. as chris was chuckling away, we don't do tactical voting in terms of quid pro quos and all that sort of thing. we do it because it produces good legislation , which then can be legislation, which then can be acceptable to the commons. >> okay. superb stuff. great fun and told off now. >> well , it's my and told off now. >> well, it's my job to ask the sort of slightly robust questions and get torn up, but i'm only asking the question that's what people out there, i'm sure screaming at the tv. >> superb, lord. robert hayward and chris excellent stuff. >> superb, lord. robert hayward and you. excellent stuff. >> superb, lord. robert hayward and you. lots xcellent stuff. >> superb, lord. robert hayward and you. lots xcelle on stuff. >> superb, lord. robert hayward and you. lots xcelleon that now you get lots more on that story website thanks story on our website and thanks to is the to you gb news. com is the fastest growing national news website country. it's got website in the country. it's got breaking and the breaking news and all the brilliant you've brilliant analysis you've come to news. so thank to expect from gb news. so thank you much. now the terrorist you very much. now the terrorist sad news that two year old bronson battersbee starved to

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has done older men in this country a huge favour by revealing he's suffering from an enlarged prostate , getting men enlarged prostate, getting men talking their health. talking about their health. it can good thing, surely can only be a good thing, surely . burglars are reported to . now burglars are reported to have broken into the home of toddler bronson battersbee in lincolnshire, just hours after he and his father's bodies were discovered, according to the daily mail, thieves broke into the home in skegness and stole a wallet belonging to the father, kenneth battersbee, and some of his medication . an astonishing his medication. an astonishing development in a story that's already tragic. and let's get the thoughts now of former metropolitan police detective peter bleksley p for this case has horrified the nation and it's made us ask huge questions about british society and this latest development. peter, that opportunists thieves in skegness broke into a crime scene to steal things in such a sensitive

case. peter, what does that say to you about the mindset of modern britain and in particular, the mindset of british criminals ? british criminals? >> well, some people are utterly beneath contempt and whatever vermin it was that entered that flat and stole the items that you've listed, then they are truly subhuman . and i sincerely truly subhuman. and i sincerely hope that the police investigation into this burglary will be prompt, professional, thorough, and that it will lead to charges being brought thereafter. i hope to see whoever's responsible in a court, and i'm sure there will be a lot of aggravating factors about this crime that i sincerely hope leads to a substantial jail sentence. >> and peter , huge questions to >> and peter, huge questions to ask about what, um, britain being broken. shattered communities divorce . skegness communities divorce. skegness a place i visited every summer as

a child. now at the end of the line, lots of social problems . line, lots of social problems. and is that part of the issue here? peter, we see so often in these former seaside towns now faded drugs becoming an issue, addiction becoming an issue and repeat criminal behaviour on that basis . this would drive that basis. this would drive somebody to such a lamentable and contemptible crime as this . and contemptible crime as this. >> yes. and far from skegness, down on the south coast, not so far from where i live, in suburban london, there are coastal resorts that were once much favoured places going back some decades, where people took their holidays. >> but slowly and surely the rot set in. people were moved out of areas of chronic social deprivation in order to create other areas of chronic social deprivation . ian on the south deprivation. ian on the south coast as well . and of course, coast as well. and of course, what follows along with

deprivation, crime , because some deprivation, crime, because some people regret see stealing as a way out of their poverty as opposed to perhaps getting vocational training, education, getting up and going to work every day. and so societal problems spread far and wide , problems spread far and wide, and they are now reflected the length and breadth of the country . when we couple that country. when we couple that with immigration issues, people flooding in the country who we simply quite just don't know who they are, what their backgrounds are, and so many people are aghast at all of this and sadly shake their heads in disbelief . shake their heads in disbelief. >> peter bleksley, i think you've absolutely nailed it there and aligned to that, we know skegness, those former guest houses that would have been bustling, full of tourists like myself, my family when we were , um, and now are were younger, um, and now are falling into the asylum seekers being housed in these areas. you're dead right, peter. these areas towns are being used as dumping grounds for social

problems , forgotten, forlorn . at problems, forgotten, forlorn. at the end of the line in every sense. and peter, brexit, these areas voted brexit in huge numbers. that was meant to be their way out of it. and instead we have all of these social issues colliding in these tragedies. peter bleksley thank you very much for joining us tragedies. peter bleksley thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on the show in upsetting circumstances. but i really think we need to have a huge conversation about bronson battersby, what it represents , battersby, what it represents, the broken britain that we have all of us as, as a society. i think have huge questions to ask and to answer. and this tragic case, those conversations case, maybe those conversations can be kick started now . there's can be kick started now. there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00 in a few minutes after the woman, britain's strictest headteacher, banned praying with muslim students, i'll ask it's time to i'll ask whether it's time to kick out of all british kick religion out of all british schools. but first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst .

middlehurst. >> martin. thank you. the top stories this hour. well, we can bnng stories this hour. well, we can bring you some more detail on that. bronson battersby story that's come to us in the last hour here on gb news. we're now heanng hour here on gb news. we're now hearing the police watchdog is to investigate any missed opportunities. they're saying pnor opportunities. they're saying prior to the deaths of toddler bronson battersby and his father in lincolnshire, the two year old was found dead to next the body of his 60 year old father, who had suffered a fatal heart attack in skegness. it comes as we learned this afternoon that burglars are reported to have broken into their flat just hours after their bodies were discovered, and, according to the daily mail, thieves stole a wallet belonging to the father , wallet belonging to the father, kenneth, and some of his medication . on that. also in the medication. on that. also in the news today, the prime minister is calling on the house of lords to do what he says is the right thing and pass his rwanda bill. the third reading of the bill passed through commons passed through the commons last night unamended , with a majority

night unamended, with a majority of dozens of tories had of 44 dozens of tories had threatened to rebel, but in the end only 11 voted against it. mr sunak says peers must now support the legislation as an urgent national priority . well, urgent national priority. well, the prime minister's plan to stop the boats comes as the home office confirmed today that 358 migrant boats were intercepted trying to cross the english channel yesterday. that's in eight small boats and it means 621 migrant s have arrived in the uk in the month of january. so far this year despite more than two weeks of poor weather along the kent coast and the prince of wales has been pictured visiting his wife in hospital where she's recovering from abdominal surgery. prince william was seen leaving the private london clinic in his car this afternoon. princess catherine is said to be doing well after her planned procedure on tuesday . meanwhile, queen on tuesday. meanwhile, queen camilla has said his majesty the

king is fine and looking forward to getting back to work as he awaits treatment for an enlarged prostate. king charles has said he's keen to go public with his condition to encourage other men to get themselves checked out . to get themselves checked out. more on all those stories by heading to our website gb news dot com . dot com. >> for a valuable legacy, your family can own gold coins will always shine bright. roslyn gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report quick snapshot of the markets for you and the pound, buying you $1.2678 and ,1.1679. l ,1.1679. »- ,1.1679. >> the price of gold . is >> the price of gold. is £1,589.20 an ounce, and the ftse 100 closed today at 7459 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report .

report. >> thank you polly. well, my favourite time of the day, of course, is when michelle dewberry joins me. sadly not in the today, but in paris the studio today, but in paris and michel dewbs& co what's on your menu? >> keep bit of >> i've got to keep a bit of distance us, martin. distance between us, martin. i don't to over excite you, don't want to over excite you, don't want to over excite you, do so i am indeed back do i? so yeah, i am indeed back in other studio today. so in the other studio today. so much that want to talk about much that i want to talk about tonight. focussed, tonight. we've been focussed, haven't on politics, haven't we, heavily on politics, but i want to ask a simple question tonight. >> little two year old boy starved to death in his own home. you know , is society even home. you know, is society even still a thing anymore? >> because people didn't go and check. no doors were really knocked on by neighbours, etc. dogs apparently barking all the time. >> why didn't anyone see what was happening? >> to ask that >> so i want to ask that question as well. i mean, question also as well. i mean, you even this up, you couldn't even make this up, could you? martin? 6000 asylum seekers. gone? seekers. where have they gone? nobody knows. labour's five point plan apparently, would be the answer. to fix all of this, i want to look at that and some

spectacular footage from met police that i absolutely love. can't share that with my can't wait to share that with my viewers. want to talk about viewers. also want to talk about wasteful council . so many of wasteful council. so many of them going bust, right? i've them now going bust, right? i've got an example of one of them wasting money in such an eye—watering way, i can't even wait to share it with you all. so i've got all of that coming up and more. and of course i want simple want to just ask a simple question we really need question do we really need to know our has gotten know that our king has gotten enlarged prostate ? oh do we? enlarged prostate? oh do we? >> is it all about kind of encouraging people? >> is it a thing or is it >> is it a good thing or is it just a little bit weird? >> i it's a great thing. >> i think it's a great thing. but also it is a bit weird. i agree, a fantastic menu coming up six seven. up dewbs& co six till seven. make sure you don't miss that. now a school led by britain's strictest headteacher has been taken to a court by a muslim people over an alleged prayer ban.the people over an alleged prayer ban. the school's founder, katharine birbalsingh , said she katharine birbalsingh, said she had to introduce the ban after several pupils began praying in the playground without authorisation . ian jason

authorisation. ian jason coppell, kc representing the school trust, told the court on wednesday the prayer issue had triggered quotes an unprecedented outbreak of poor behaviour among pupils . so now behaviour among pupils. so now should we take a leaf out of france's book and ban religion from our schools altogether here? but join me now to discuss . this is ethnographer and academic lisa mackenzie and pastor of the freedom ark church , nims obunge. thank you both for joining us. lisa could i forjoining us. lisa could i start with with you? this is a conversation that's gripped the nation. quite simply , we're in nation. quite simply, we're in a situation here where the pupils have overridden the school policy and decided upon themselves to start praying . the themselves to start praying. the head has clamped down and she's found herself in court over that. what's your take? well, i'm, um, i mean, it's not that i agree with the headteacher on this. >> you know, i've thought for a long, long time.

>> in fact, all of my life and career that religion should not be any part of the state at all. >> and that definitely includes schools. um, we are the most secular country in the world 50% of us have no religion at all. um and you know , religion in any um and you know, religion in any part of the state, whether that's any of the institutions , that's any of the institutions, uh, in the housing offices , in uh, in the housing offices, in the benefits offices, in the doctor's surgeries or in school doors. i think religion has to be out of it. it this is a contemporary, modern nation. we you know, we don't need morning prayers . people can do what they prayers. people can do what they want in their own time, in their own privacy , of their own homes. own privacy, of their own homes. and if they want to have private education, whether that is catholic or muslim or anything else, that is up to them. but in a state sponsored school, there should be no religion . should be no religion. >> okay. nims obunge what's your

take? >> um, great to hear lisa. >> um, great to hear lisa. >> lisa, but i think you're really wrong here. um let's let's accept that the department for education has already suggested that, um, religious education plays a vital role in enhancing moral ethical development. >> it contributes us, you know, to the reduction of criminality . to the reduction of criminality. >> um, i think we've got to also accept that, um, it helps with social cohesion where a nation , social cohesion where a nation, you know, where a secular nation. >> but we're very strongly, uh, very religious nation are our core values in the united kingdom. we're built upon faith . kingdom. we're built upon faith. >> and to remove that from our schools removes their the very foundation and the essence of who we are as a nation . um, foundation and the essence of who we are as a nation. um, and i think it's just wrong. i reckon in this particular instance, um, i think the school should provide a place where young people can pray if they want to. i think we've we find there's a lot that faith

organisations provide to this nafion organisations provide to this nation and young people with faith have done great things in this nation. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but nims it states quite clearly in the schools policy that there is no prayer room. the pupils and the teachers would have known that the pupils and the parents beg your pardon, would have known that before they along there. it's they went along there. it's clearly and clearly the school's policy. and as far as your point of religion causing social cohesion, there have been many incidents recently where it's caused the opposite. look at the batley grammar school teacher still in hiding . two years later, a hiding. two years later, a damaged quran in um up north causing death threats and indeed at this school, um, throwing this back to you um, at this school. indeed. they've had windows smashed and death threats. lisa mckenzie um, that's the only case you need to make . make. >> well, no, i mean, i you can make that case, but i think there's actually even a broader case to make that when we come to state educator education,

religion needs to be out of it. there's no evidence anywhere that that religion in schools prevents crime . there's no prevents crime. there's no absolutely no evidence . i'm a absolutely no evidence. i'm a sociologist. i've never, ever come across that evidence . what come across that evidence. what does prevent crime in communities is community organising and community cohesion. and that's actually what britain was was built on, on strong communities. so, you know, if we're going to do anything in schools, the religion is not the way. so you know that i don't think there's and religious education or learning about different religions is not the same as practising a religion . so, you practising a religion. so, you know , education and practising know, education and practising is very different in a state run school or a hospital or anything thatis school or a hospital or anything that is state run . religion or that is state run. religion or religion should be out names. >> well, let's face it. >> well, let's face it. >> okay. >> okay. >> um, the statistics from the office of national statistics has clearly indicated that

religious education in, um, positively impacts the cultural awareness and the diversity contributing to a more tolerant and inclusive environment. >> it's clear data has shown this data continues to show that comprehensive religious, um education programme, um, provides lower rates of exclusion and if we look at that, i think it's important that, i think it's important that we recognise the positive angles of religion in in society. >> i recognise that there have been the negative aspects also, but that doesn't mean that because of , um, spot cases of because of, um, spot cases of negative impact that religion might have in some schools , the might have in some schools, the wider society. let's look at the wider society. let's look at the wider society. let's look at the wider society. let's look at great britain and let's look at the impact it has had that religious education has had. and i think if we put it to vote, you would find that religious education in education would be accepted in our schools. >> we have to leave it >> okay. we have to leave it there. i'm afraid we have to leave it there purely because of

the time. i'm so sorry. lisa mckenzie pastor of the mckenzie and pastor of the freedom ark church, nims obunge, mckenzie and pastor of the freedcyourk church, nims obunge, mckenzie and pastor of the freedcyou forzhurch, nims obunge, mckenzie and pastor of the freedcyou for joining nims obunge, mckenzie and pastor of the freedcyou for joining for1s obunge, mckenzie and pastor of the freedcyou for joining for us)bunge, mckenzie and pastor of the freedcyou for joining for us a unge, thank you for joining for us a spirited debate on religion in schools. now a jewish charity event to help disaffected young boys was mobbed by anti—israel protesters after the address was leaked by provocateur social media activists who , discussing media activists who, discussing that next line martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

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britain's news channel. >> welcome back . it's 546. >> welcome back. it's 546. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now loads of you have been getting in touch throughout the show about hundreds of emails. i'm sorry enough time sorry we haven't had enough time to them out. it's been such to read them out. it's been such an action packed show migration, stopping the vote an action packed show migration, stop night the vote an action packed show migration, stop night has the vote an action packed show migration, stop night has reallythe vote an action packed show migration, stop night has reallythe you last night has really got you going and labour mp going and we had labour mp stephen in the studio stephen timms in the studio earlier talking about how earlier on talking about how labour address this, and labour would address this, and mick this martin, be mick says this, martin, let's be clear, labour will solve the immigration crisis and backlog by granting an amnesty to those already here. it's going to be a disaster for the country. okay. now moving on. a jewish charity event to help disaffected young boys was mobbed by anti—israel protesters after the address was leaked by a provocative social media activist. you can see on your screen there disturbing footage shows the crowd abusing jewish passers by in hendon in north london, while being blocked by police. watch joining

me now is a journalist from the jewish chronicle who broke that story. jane princely jane, thank you very much for joining us story. jane princely jane, thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on gb news is once again an anti—semitic incident, this time outside a charity of all places. can you explain to us what happened and why ? happened and why? >> yeah. so this was an event targeted at, um , some targeted at, um, some disaffected young boys who this charity reaches out to. it's a charity reaches out to. it's a charity that , um, tries to help charity that, um, tries to help disaffected young jewish boys. um, it's based in hendon. you'll see. its offices has no kind of , see. its offices has no kind of, um, jewish demarcation outside . um, jewish demarcation outside. it's very discreet and as is often the case with jewish institutions, um, and they were holding a lunch and learn with four boys who had been excluded from school with an idf veteran who was there to talk to the boys. who was there to talk to the boys . it wasn't about the war in boys. it wasn't about the war in gaza. boys. it wasn't about the war in gaza . it was actually about them gaza. it was actually about them getting back on the straight and narrow, avoiding drugs . um, and

narrow, avoiding drugs. um, and it was it was to inspire the boys. anyway, details of this event leaked on social media, uh, including the address, and it shared widely on lots of it was shared widely on lots of anti—israel channels. um, and it inspired this mob , which arrived inspired this mob, which arrived outside offices to outside the offices to intimidate and to provoke the jewish residents of the area. and the charity and targeting these young boys . really? how these young boys. really? how targeted and unfair do you think this is? >> and how unsafe do people feel? i mean, having a mob turn up at an address being leaked on social media, it must have made people feel very, very concerned for safety . it's terrifying. >> i think this this mob were masked. they had speakers , um, masked. they had speakers, um, they were there with a clear purpose to intimidate and provoke. um, and the event was was an event for young jewish boys. was an event for young jewish boys . um, i was an event for young jewish boys. um, i think we can was an event for young jewish boys . um, i think we can talk boys. um, i think we can talk all we want about it, um, about the particularities of the speaken the particularities of the speaker. but at the end of the day, it was an event for young jewish boys to help them get back on the straight and narrow.

um and it was in an unprovoked kind of arrival of this mob, um, sort of inspired by a few high profile individuals on social media sharing this address. >> and jane , i don't want to >> and jane, i don't want to name the organisation in question. i just don't want to give them the oxygen of publicity. but they are the same organisation. ian. um, that posted the address of a school recently. we had a young mother on this show. uh, they put palestinian flags outside that school. they barracked the school. they barracked the school. they barracked the school. they demanded the headteacher lose his job. they caused a huge concern . and this caused a huge concern. and this is the same mob again. caused a huge concern. and this is the same mob again . they seem is the same mob again. they seem to have a modus operandi of specifically rallying a rabble on the streets with a specific intent to intimidate and harass . intent to intimidate and harass. >> exactly . it's pretty >> exactly. it's pretty terrifying for jewish residents in the area . one thing i will in the area. one thing i will say is yesterday the police and the cst were on hand and they

were there . they'd been informed were there. they'd been informed by the charity, um, ceo that the address had been leaked . um, and address had been leaked. um, and he was really clear that the police were pretty supportive. yesterday um, in, in sort of, um , separating the mob from the charity itself. but, i mean, it must be costing such a huge amount of money, but the police, um, wasting all of our time, as well as putting a genuine kind of threat on these organisations and institutions and poor and institutions and these poor individuals just trying go individuals just trying to go about um trying to about their life. um trying to do do good by do bit of do do good by do a bit of charity or go to school. >> okay. jane. princely a journalist from the jewish chronicle, thank you for sharing that story . um, a very that story. um, a very concerning issue in hendon. thank you very much . now, more thank you very much. now, more on the news that the king is to be treated in hospital next week for an enlarged prostate gland than it's understood charles was keen to share details of his keen to share the details of his diagnosis encourage other men diagnosis to encourage other men who may be experiencing symptoms, get checked in symptoms, to get checked in line with public health advice. and i'm joined now by emma craske, who's a specialist nurse at

prostate cancer uk. emma, thank you for joining prostate cancer uk. emma, thank you forjoining us on the show. you for joining us on the show. in a sense , this is a bit of a in a sense, this is a bit of a silver lining in this story, isn't it? because i've worked for many years trying to get men and to talk about their mental health their physical health and their physical health, that's almost health, and now that's almost got approval . got royal approval. >> yeah. it's fantastic that he's gone public because anything that , um, improves anything that, um, improves men's men feeling at ease about talking about prostate health, finding out about their prostate health and prostate problems is fantastic . so it's brilliant. fantastic. so it's brilliant. >> let's face it, emma, it's a difficult conversation to have. the nature of this , these this the nature of this, these this cancen the nature of this, these this cancer. and where it is, there's no getting around it. something men like to try and avoid. can you talk us through some of the numbers and how prevalent this is, and what men can do if they believe that they may be afflicted by it ? afflicted by it? >> yes. >> yes. >> so we're talking about two different things here. >> so an enlarged prostate is nothing is different than

prostate cancer. so having an enlarged prostate is more normal. >> cells that press on um, the water pipe that passes right through the prostate, prostate cancen through the prostate, prostate cancer, um, is, is a different thing. >> and obviously it's a type of cancer. >> cancen >> but having a large prostate doesn't put you more at risk of developing prostate cancer . developing prostate cancer. >> so what king charles has got is from what we understand, the enlargement varne and men often need coaxing, don't they? >> i mean, i mean, i i'm of a certain age now. i'm not charles's age, but i'm a certain age where i get text messages encouraging me to go along and to be honest, it's bit of an to be honest, it's a bit of an awkward to contemplate. awkward thing to contemplate. but mind the nature but bearing in mind the nature of examination, anything of the examination, so anything that helps men to cross that barrier of fear can only be a good thing . good thing. >> that's absolutely right. >> that's absolutely right. >> and i think there's a lot of misinformation, actually, because there used to be a lot of jokes in the old days about the finger at the bottom test. >> and actually, that's not the first test that's these

first test that's done. these days. if people want to get checked for prostate cancer. >> um, and, and, um, the first test would be the psa blood test, which is an indicator of whether a man has a prostate problem or not. and, um, and if men want more information, they want to learn more about their own prostate health or about enlargement or their risk of prostate cancer , i would really prostate cancer, i would really encourage them to go on to our website, which is prostate cancer uk. org, where they'll find more information both about an enlarged prostate. >> and there's also a little risk checker they can take which will guide them to more information about being tested, including information about the psa test. >> okay. thank you very much, emma craske, a specialist nurse at prostate cancer uk. now, i know it's difficult conversation, but that's the nature of the game and i'm glad that we've had it. it's been a fantastic show. thanks for joining us. being joined next dewbs& co straight after this, i've been martin daubney back three till six tomorrow, so thanks for joining me three till six tomorrow, so thanks forjoining me here on gb

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society checking on your neighbour. is all of this still a thing or not? and so many councils in this country are broke to the point where our

pubuc broke to the point where our public service are now at risk. why then, are so many of them wasting our money on ridiculous things ? i have got an things? i have got an eye—watering example right? and i'll give you a clue. it involves spending more than a penny and right. you will love this , i promise you. you will this, i promise you. you will love this story. i think we need to give the police sometimes more credit , but i've got more credit, but i've got a fantastic example of good old fashioned policing . it's fashioned policing. it's fabulous. you will not want to miss this. and you could not even make this next story up right . but the government have right. but the government have lost. yes, you heard me right. lost 6000 thousand asylum seekers who have apparently had their claims rejected. where on earth are these guys ? labour earth are these guys? labour think that their five point plan would fix it all. would it or not? and last but not least , do not? and last but not least, do we really need to know that our king has an enlarged prostate . king has an enlarged prostate. i mean, don't get me wrong, right? i like talking as much as the