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one in, one out migration his one in, one out migration policy . policy. >> we've got the full exclusive interview coming up. you won't want to miss it. >> dangerous schools , the new >> dangerous schools, the new ofsted chief has warned behaviour at some schools in the country is so bad that staff are locking themselves in their classrooms during break times for their own safety. is there a discipline crisis in our schools i >> -- >> and some interesting news coming out of the covid inquiry. those are words we don't often say on this programme, but this is genuinely worth listening to. they've been holding hearings up in scotland over the course of the morning, and it turns out the morning, and it turns out the former first minister of scotland, nicola sturgeon, has mysteriously had all of her whatsapps go walkabout.
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>> yes , yes, the inquiry was >> yes, yes, the inquiry was told that she retained no messages whatsoever for from dunng messages whatsoever for from during the pandemic. >> nick. none. now, i don't know about you, but, uh, why would i delete my messages? well perhaps because i don't want anyone to see them. and why would that be? >> i mean, even boris johnson had some of the messages left oven he had some of the messages left over. he was slated for not having all of the messages, but he had at least some. nicola sturgeon, on the other hand, not a single message from the whole pandemic . a single message from the whole pandemic. uh, a single message from the whole pandemic . uh, period. it's quite pandemic. uh, period. it's quite now the excuses that they were deleted in a routine time , deleted in a routine time, drying up of inboxes or changes of phone. oh how convenient . of phone. oh how convenient. >> very convenient indeed. we'll be asking our political correspondent about that story, but shall we get the headlines with sam ? with sam? >> tom and emily. thank you very
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much. good afternoon. it'sjust much. good afternoon. it's just gone. 12:00. the headlines . tata gone. 12:00. the headlines. tata steel has confirmed up to 2800 jobs will be affected as it plans to close blast furnaces in south wales. the port talbot sites, considered to be the country's single biggest emitter of carbon dioxide . the cuts come of carbon dioxide. the cuts come as the company moves to a greener way of working the steel maker plans to close its two blast furnaces in the uk by the end of this year. the unite union, representing workers , say union, representing workers, say it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the steel industry . defend the steel industry. >> the government provided half £1 billion to support tata . the £1 billion to support tata. the alternative, by the way, was that the entire plant would be closed and all 8000 jobs would be lost. but the government worked with the company, provided billion. the provided half £1 billion. the company investing more money company is investing more money in to safeguard thousands in order to safeguard thousands of jobs, and that's something that the uk government has done. the welsh government did not participate that's participate in that, and that's because those because we cared about those jobs and the of jobs and the future of steelmaking uk . steelmaking in wales and the uk. >> the home office has admitted
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that more than 6000 asylum seekers are missing in the uk. it comes as members of the house of lords outlined plans that could stall rishi sunak's flagship rwanda policy. the group of peers , led by former group of peers, led by former labour attorney general , wants labour attorney general, wants to delay the treaty until the government can show that rwanda is for asylum seekers . new is safe for asylum seekers. new ofsted ofsted guidance will allow school visits in england to be paused if staff show any signs of distress . the signs of distress. the announcement comes after a coroner called for change following the death of headteacher ruth perry. she took her own life in january last year after caversham primary school was downgraded from outstanding to inadequate . the outstanding to inadequate. the coroner said there was an almost complete absence of training for inspectors to look out for signs of distress in school leaders . of distress in school leaders. police are trying to trace a mother after a newborn baby was found in a shopping bag in east london. the child wrapped in a towel, was discovered by a dog walker in newham and is now
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being cared for in a hospital. the little girl was uninjured and is , we understand, safe and and is, we understand, safe and well . police say they're now well. police say they're now extremely concerned for the welfare of the baby's mother and they're appealing for help to find her. uk's health find her. the uk's health security agency has declared a national incident warning urgent action is needed to stop any further outbreaks of measles figures show there has been a confirmed rise in cases and more than 100 probable cases in the west midlands since october. it comes as vaccination rates across the country have been dropping . health experts are dropping. health experts are calling for more people to get protected, saying an increase in jabsis protected, saying an increase in jabs is necessary to prevent the spread of the potentially deadly virus elsewhere , a senior nato virus elsewhere, a senior nato official has warned that there could be an all out war with russia within the next 20 years. dutch naval officer admiral rob bauer says that although the military alliance is preparing for a conflict, civilians must also be ready. it comes after defence secretary grant shapps
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said the threat could be sooner and more wide reaching, possibly involving russia, china, iran and north korea. defence editor at the evening standard, robert fox, told gb news there's a real risk of the conflict spreading . risk of the conflict spreading. >> grant shapps said he thought we were lucky if we've got five years and this is certainly what the baltic countries estonia, latvia, lithuania are warning us because they say after ukraine, where russia is on a roll again, it's going to be us and we're all going to be involved . all going to be involved. >> well, we've learned today that one third of adults will run out of money by the end of this month, according to new data finance firm karma says the high of christmas is to high cost of christmas is to blame for the sting. in january budget, wait budget, as many people wait longer to get paid and cope with expensive winter energy bills. the credit company has also found more than half of people strapped for cash will have spent entire month's spent their entire month's income by the 20th of january to
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help balance budgets, figures suggest. more than a quarter of people plan avoid socialising people plan to avoid socialising , half of us will , while almost half of us will hold off from purchasing any new tech gadgets . and a new tech or gadgets. and a new weather warning has been issued with storm isha set to hit the uk this weekend, it's only the second time in a storm season that a storm with the letter i has been reached in the alphabet, forecasters say wind gusts of up to 80 miles an hour are expected, and power cuts and damage to buildings are also possible. the warnings come into effect from sunday evening until monday morning . that's the monday morning. that's the latest from the gb news room. for more, we're on tv on digital radio and of course, on your smart speaker two just say play gb news now though. more from tom and . tom and. emily >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:07 and steel giants tata steel has confirmed plans to
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close blast furnaces on its port talbot site in south wales . this talbot site in south wales. this could lead to a loss of up to 2500 jobs in the next 18 months, with 2800 jobs overall impacted. >> yes, the furnaces will transition to electric arc technology, which require fewer workers to maintain . now unite workers to maintain. now unite the uk's leading union, says they use. they will use everything in its armoury to defend steel workers at and the industry. well joining us now is the economics and business editor of gb news. >> liam halligan. liam, this is us to some extent a shocking story. so many jobs of course are dependent on this industry. but on the other hand, i suppose from an economic point of view, if you need fewer workers to run these furnaces, is this not a rational concern ? sedation . rational concern? sedation. >> well, there's bright sunshine
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down here in south wales , tom down here in south wales, tom and emily, but the mood is very , and emily, but the mood is very, very bleak indeed. as you say. 2800 jobs have been shed by tata steel. they employ 4000 people here in port talbot , 8000 people here in port talbot, 8000 people across the country, not least at scunthorpe . their other flagship scunthorpe. their other flagship production facility. most of those 2800 jobs will be lost here. and the reason, as you say , is because tata are investing around £2 billion with another £500 million on top of taxpayers money from the british government to close down those two blast furnaces behind me, two blast furnaces behind me, two of only four blast furnaces now in the uk , and replace them now in the uk, and replace them with so—called arc furnaces that use scrap steel, recycled steel and produce steel. many people tell me of lower quality. the thing about blast furnaces , such thing about blast furnaces, such as those behind me, is that you can produce what's called virgin steel of the highest quality.
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you can produce steel from iron ore, they generally use ore, but they generally use coking coal, which emits lots of carbon . trade unions have for carbon. trade unions have for months and years been pushing tata to move to a more gradual transition away from coking coal and using other technologies such as hydrogen. but it hasn't come to fruition, and that's why this extremely proud steelmaking community here in port talbot, the local economy, completely depends on those blast furnaces . depends on those blast furnaces. and indeed, tata is the biggest private sector employer in wales and here at port talbot, they've just announced that at least 50, probably more , depending on the probably more, depending on the geographic distribution of those job losses. we don't know , have job losses. we don't know, have just an extremely sad just been lost. an extremely sad day for a proud steelmaking community. people here have been making steel literally for generations . generations. >> you explain well, the devastating impact of this decision on people in the area on on communities to what extent
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are these job losses a casualty of the drive to net zero? there entirely a casualty of that, emily. >> and there is a real clash of cultures at the heart of this story . on the one hand, you have story. on the one hand, you have a political and media class, and some voters who put environmental policy above everything. they think it's the most important thing that britain should be focussed on for moral reasons , for for moral reasons, for environmental reasons . and yet, environmental reasons. and yet, on the other hand, across our manufacturing heartlands and, you know, the uk is still a top ten manufacturing producer, manufacturing still accounts for a huge slug of our exports and the wealth generation in this country. manufacturing still accounts for an awful lot of pretty well paid jobs for the so—called blue collar people who rely on those jobs. among those people , they tend to think that people, they tend to think that this rush towards net zero is a fad . it's a kind of cult. it's fad. it's a kind of cult. it's nothing to do with them. they want cleaner environment. they
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want cleaner environment. they want a cleaner world for their kids and grandkids. but they wonder , why is this being done wonder, why is this being done to us? these new fangled green jobs, they're not here in the south wales valley in general . south wales valley in general. the sense here is that this is being done to them. despite their wishes. and whereas we all want a cleaner planet, the costs where they actually are felt is in places and in communities like like this. that's why you have this clash of cultures between a largely urban middle class , if you like, slug of the class, if you like, slug of the electorate, who stressed environmental issues and people around the country in the so—called red wall, ordinary men and women making their way in manufacturing who feel really, really put upon. and of course, the political fallout is going to be huge . first, wales to be huge. first, wales minister , first minister of minister, first minister of wales, mark drakeford , of wales, mark drakeford, of course, a labour politician . he course, a labour politician. he is now claiming in a letter which i've seen , that rishi which i've seen, that rishi sunak won't even take his call.
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he's calling for an urgent consultation at your earliest convenience. prime minister an urgent discussion regarding this matter of huge strategic importance, the loss of production of virgin steel at scale. this letter from mark drakeford to downing street and mark drakeford is claiming that downing street, the prime minister has no time to talk to him today despite the loss of thousands of jobs here in port talbot. at the hands of wales's largest private sector employer. i suggest that the prime minister either takes that call if he's willing to, uh , and if he's willing to, uh, and makes clear that he is willing to take the call he needs to find time to do this. i suggest otherwise. the political backlash already huge , will get backlash already huge, will get even greater and liam, that crucial qualification you just explained that mark drakeford has been talking about virgin steel and there's a difference between the sort of steel that could be produced by powerful blast furnaces.
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>> although very economically, very environmentally damaging blast furnaces, electric furnaces can't make the same quality of steel , as far furnaces can't make the same quality of steel, as far as i understand it can't make that virgin steel because they don't get as hot. there's a third way that some unions have been promoting this morning, saying that a hydrogen furnace would be the best of both worlds . why the best of both worlds. why hasn't this been under consideration . consideration. >> well, as you know, tom, you and i have often discussed it in the gb news newsroom. and i know you take a really laudable interest in these east technical issues as do i. i, i've often promoted hydrogen in my on the money show, which was previously on on gb news. of course, i would often talk to people from the hydrogen industry because i knew there were discussions going on up and down the country from trade unionists , from trade unionists, industrialists, civil servants and ministers about an alternative to coking coal for actually being able to create
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virgin steel . it's so far come virgin steel. it's so far come to nothing because the political will just hasn't been there. virgin steel is really, really important. you make it from iron ore and you make it for now using coke and coal. but as you rightly say, you don't necessarily need to use coking coal. if we invest in new technology and if we tweak our regulatory structures to allow that to happen, and virgin steel is of the highest quality british made steel is very high quality around the world. it tends to be a bit more expensive for that reason, and there's the strategic imperative to the news. the news. the airwaves are full, the newspapers are full of geopolitical angst between russia and the west, between china and the rest. these are some of the biggest steel making countries in the world. do we really want to be in a situation? and we are now the only major economy in the world, the only member of the so—called 620 the only member of the so—called g20 group of advanced advanced industrialised economies who
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don't have that ability to make our own virgin steel. and in some situations, virgin steel is what you need. and it's galling for so many people in the british steel industry, given that in the 18th and 19th century it was this country which pioneered these techniques. many of them on the site behind me by the predecessors of the men and women who work here. now, it seems galling to them that an environmental focussed agenda so beloved of the metropolitan media classes is trumped in their view, not just economic common sense , emily and tom, but common sense, emily and tom, but actual justice, absolute. >> thank you very much. liam halligan . our economics and halligan. our economics and business editor. fantastic to speak to you, liam, about that. yeah what is the point of making lower quality steel ? lower quality steel? >> i think to be honest, it's so that they can simply say we're making some steel and they hope that people won't dig into the details. but of course, we're here to dig into those details .
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here to dig into those details. the between virgin the distinction between virgin steel and other created at steel and other steel created at these plants. it's an important distinction , and i'm glad we distinction, and i'm glad we talked through it. >> yes. do let us know. of course, is an economic course, this is an economic story, very much a human story, but very much a human story, but very much a human story is story too. this industry is absolutely . and also the absolutely massive. and also the question are country, our question of are country, our future , our geopolitics, our future, our geopolitics, our security . it covers so many security. it covers so many gbviews@gbnews.com. keep your views coming in. we will get to them. but coming up we have an exclusive interview with the leader of reform uk. that's richard tice . don't go anywhere. richard tice. don't go anywhere. he does indeed get a bit of a grilling
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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. >> good afternoon britain . it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:20 and it's been another big week in british politics where week in british politics where we saw tory mps trying to rebel over the rwanda bill and trying to trying to. yes the latest yougov poll on voting intention shows reform uk would get 1,212% of the vote. that is the highest vote share the party has ever recorded. >> yes. so gb news political editor christopher hope sits down with the leader of reform uk . that's richard tice, of uk. that's richard tice, of course, to ask , what exactly course, to ask, what exactly does the party stand for? >> i want to ask you about what what what reform stands for. do you worry you're just a protest party? back in 2015, the last comparable elections. >> i'm going to stop you there.
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>> i'm going to stop you there. >> well, let let me, let me >> well, let me let me, let me let finish the question. 3.88 let me finish the question. 3.88 million voted for ukip. million people voted for ukip. they mp. the problem is, they got one mp. the problem is, you know where the you don't know where where the voters you're voters live. you can't. you're big social media. you're big big on social media. you're big in the polls. it's a waste of vote because you're going to basically hand labour a majority government. >> is medium terme >> this is a medium terme project. rome's not built a project. rome's not built in a day, right? we've gone from nought years ago to nought a couple of years ago to 12% now, to according yougov, we're heading north. the tories are and we all are heading south and we all know that first past the post is difficult. but people have had enough. tired enough. they're sick and tired of the two main parties. they're two sides of the same socialist coin. nothing's going to change. we of the we need wholesale reform of the way this country is run, and people are saying , thank god people are saying, thank god there's a new party that's come forward, tells it as it is, and has got a plan on the critical issues. everybody knows the cost of is a critical issue. of living is a critical issue. we're the only party that can help deal with that by lifting the starting point at which you pay the starting point at which you pay income tax to £20,000 from 12,500 pounds. that's an extra
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net £30 a week in everybody's pay net £30 a week in everybody's pay packet. okay. >> taking that, for example, who's going to pay for that? that's a huge a huge tax cut. it's a huge task a debt issue. are you going to borrow more. >> everybody knows >> so everybody knows there's a vast of wasteful vast amount of wasteful government wherever government spending. wherever you're looking. councils in quangos , in quangos in commissions, in government all look government spending. we all look at our household budgets and we say, i've got to save £5 and 100, but still pay the bills, put table. likewise put food on the table. likewise small businesses, you've got to save 100, still save £5 and 100, but still produce the you've got to produce the goods. you've got to cut all the waste. cut out all the waste. >> fantasyland. i mean, there's no you can 5% off. off no way you can go 5% off. off tourist spending. >> i've run big multinational tourist spending. >> i've rivery big multinational tourist spending. >> i've rivery successfully onal tourist spending. >> i've rivery successfully .nal tourist spending. >> i've rivery successfully . ial business very successfully. i know what i'm talking about. you say to all the people, all the spending managers, you've got to cut waste . you've got to cut out the waste. you've got to save 500. if not, you're fine. >> it just doesn't happen. you hear all the time. >> it's because they're not business people they've all business people and they've all failed the business people and they've all faileiservice the business people and they've all faileiservice and the the business people and they've all faileiservice and the treasury civil service and the treasury has failed. civil service and the treasury has failerou ever worked in >> have you ever worked in government? your government? what's your experience government? experience of government? >> very >> i've worked in business very successfully. >> i've worked in business very successfullof homes the same. thousands of homes the same.
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>> you won't get this >> and you won't get this through. and you're going nonsense, chris. >> false >> you see that? that is a false prospectus, tice. it's prospectus, richard tice. it's the prospectus that's going the only prospectus that's going to britain because the to save britain because the existing prospectus from the two main parties has failed britain, and we're going out of and we're going to run out of money unless something changes. and you've be tough with and you've got to be tough with people you've got to be people and you've got to be tough with the civil servants who think you who arrogantly think you can just nothing just print money or nothing changes. that if changes. i'm telling you that if we charge, would we were in charge, we would drive route. hear me out, drive this route. hear me out, because you've asked me the question you pay for it? £5 question how you pay for it? £5 and is about £60 billion. and 100 is about £60 billion. you've stop the you've got to stop all the subsidies for the absurd renewable industry. that's another billion, right? another £10 billion, right? that's billion. that's 70 that's 70 billion. that's 70 billion. you then save , if billion. if you then save, if you get a million people off out of benefits into work of work benefits back into work because of our make work pay plan, that's give or take another billion, we're another 10 billion, right? we're up to £80 billion. hear me out . up to £80 billion. hear me out. right. of that increase right. the cost of that increase in the income tax threshold is about £40 billion, plus or minus about £40 billion, plus or minus a little bit. so we're plenty there. there's another 30 billion, right. that the bank of
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england is unnecessarily paying interest on all the quantitative easing money that it printed, that they shouldn't be paying that they shouldn't be paying that they shouldn't be paying that the rich city that interest to the rich city institutions, european institutions, the european central bank is not doing it. the bank of japan is not doing it. we're up. we're well it. we're up. we're up well over 100 serious 100 billion. this is serious money that's being wasted by this incompetent the this incompetent regime. the treasury . they think they know treasury. they think they know the answers . they clearly don't. the answers. they clearly don't. we're growing. going south. >> it's very easy for you, a billionaire , a billion there. billionaire, a billion there. i mean, it's not going to work. the government has tried get the government has tried to get morbid off off benefits. it doesn't work. >> they haven't tried and they haven't tried to cut spending. look the huge look at that. look at the huge increase in wasteful government spending, right? public spending, right? public spending, spending spending, public sector spending . chris is almost £1 in two . now, chris is almost £1 in two of the economy. 20 years ago it was £1 in three. and yet everyone he knows okay, hear me out. everybody who knows public sector outcomes are worse and worse and worse. all that means is the money's being wasted, which is obviously populist. >> and the government would like to do no. >> it's popular because that's why we're going up in the polls.
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>> finish. richard tice >> let me finish. richard tice you say you want one in, one out on migration? earth on net migration? how on earth does you jolly does that work? you know, jolly well can't be as simple as well you can't be as simple as that of numbers. you that in terms of numbers. you can't right, in, that in terms of numbers. you can' out. right, in, that in terms of numbers. you can'out. if right, in, that in terms of numbers. you can'out. if it'sright, in, that in terms of numbers. you can'out. if it's someone in, that in terms of numbers. you can'out. if it's someone leaves, one out. if it's someone leaves, we'll give. that person can't arrive dover . arrive at dover. >> can say our >> you absolutely can say our policy on immigration is simplistic nonsense . simplistic nonsense. >> it won't work. >> it won't work. >> you've asked me a question. >> it won't work. >> yme'e asked me a question. >> it won't work. >> yme the ;ked me a question. >> it won't work. >> yme the courtesya question. >> it won't work. >> yme the courtesy of uestion. give me the courtesy of answering it right. we will freeze non—essential immigration. one in, one out. you can quite absolutely easily do that over an electoral cycle about , on average, 450,000 about, on average, 450,000 people leave the country every yeah people leave the country every year. so you can welcome smart immigration of a similar number every year, right where you've got genuine skill shortages. let's just remind people net immigration in the 1980s and 1990s in this country, net was less than 50,000 a year. it's currently running at three quarters of a million a year. now. back then, we didn't have huge waiting lists . we were huge waiting lists. we were using uk citizens trained up in health care and social care to fill our health jobs. we should
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be going back five years. as your you in an your point, you do it in an average over five years. and here's could. here's the point. you could. you've be prepared to try you've got to be prepared to try new things. that's what we do in the of business. and the world of business. and here's that here's the thing i believe that running a bigger running the country is a bigger version of running a big business. it's about nonsense . business. it's about nonsense. i'm sorry. i don't accept that . i'm sorry. i don't accept that. and it really angers me. i'll tell why. because we're not tell you why. because we're not growing, running growing, chris. we're running out so something's out of money. so something's gone so why don't gone badly wrong. so why don't we try something different? stop the boats. >> issue this week. illegal >> big issue this week. illegal migration. is your plan for migration. what is your plan for illegal migration? how would you stop we've got a six >> there's two. we've got a six point the two key point plan, but the two key components leave components is we've got to leave the european on human the european convention on human rights a referendum on rights i'd like a referendum on that. win it hands down. that. we'd win it hands down. the is and tired the country is sick and tired of foreign judges overseas telling us a sovereign , independent us a sovereign, independent nation, the judges in a court in strasbourg, which we sign up to. >> it doesn't it a foreign >> it doesn't make it a foreign court a foreign court or a foreign judge. >> a foreign court, >> it is a foreign court, because it's not in the united kingdom the kingdom that is literally the definition of foreign. chris. and are judges from and they are judges from overseas. that makes them
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foreign. right? we're foreign. right? and we're a sovereign, foreign. right? and we're a sovthen1, out foreign. right? and we're a sov then], out the echr >> then pulling out the echr that's point. that's the first point. >> is you've >> the second point is you've got what you know works. got to do what you know works. it australia. need it works in australia. we need in the english channel. in the in the english channel. we need to safely pick people up out dinghies into our out of the dinghies into our border instead of border force cutters instead of bringing instead bringing them, instead of bringing them, instead of bringing dover, take bringing them to dover, you take them calais, them to dunkirk and calais, which we're entitled do. which we're entitled to do. >> do returns with france. >> you're questions with >> you're asking questions with the completely false premise here. the answer we're entitled to do that under two international legal treaties that i have read, i know exactly the clauses and no one has disputed it. what you need is political courage and leadership that tony abbott showed in australia in 2013, he said he would stop the boats. he did it. he got some flak from the lefty lawyers and the international institutions. but here we are ten later. both main ten years later. both main parties in australia carry out the same policy and the boats stopped. treaties ? it's stopped. which treaties? it's the so safety of life at the 1974. so safety of life at sea treaty. and the second one is the 1982 un convention on the law at sea. under those treaties
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with proper, courageous leadership , we can safely pick leadership, we can safely pick up and take back to france. you're a seductive offer to people annoyed about the tory party, looking at how they can't be annoyed about how the country is being ruined. >> fair enough. >> okay, fair enough. the country labour >> okay, fair enough. the courtory labour >> okay, fair enough. the courtory tory labour >> okay, fair enough. the courtory tory supportersour and tory and tory supporters starmageddon is what faces the country in 2024. >> serious risk. >> it's a serious risk. >> it's a serious risk. >> where are you going on the polls ? you're up to 13% shortly. polls? you're up to 13% shortly. >> we're at 12% now on yougov >> we're at 12% now on a yougov poll. we're heading north. >> what are you being told? >> what are you being told? >> given what >> i think given given what we're hearing internally, i think a weeks we're think within a few weeks we're very to 13. we're very likely to hit 13. we're heading and success breeds success. >> success. >> and tory mps are seeing this. have you a unit set up to have you got a unit set up to attract them to join the reform party ? party? >> look, they know my number. >> look, they know my number. >> there a unit set? >> well, actually , we need a >> well, actually, we need a unit because the truth is we're getting of applications getting loads of applications from conservative from existing conservative councillors . how many? quite councillors. how many? quite a lot actually. obviously we have to. you know, we have to go through a vetting process and check them. you there's check them. and you know there's tactics but there
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tactics involved here. but there are in tory are many people in the tory party realise that the game party who realise that the game is up. they're toxic. the writing the wall and writing is on the wall and people are saying actually you stand for the philosophy of conserve ism. and that's what that's what they're signing up to. >> and just finally, critics of you personally would say you're a placeholder for nigel farage. these the these numbers supporting the party because he's busy party might be because he's busy talking about politics. more are you a placeholder or are you the leader to take the party into the next election? >> well, so far in the last three when people laughed three years, when people laughed at me we reform uk, at me when we set up reform uk, i if you did, but i can't remember if you did, but lots including i can't remember if you did, but lots they including i can't remember if you did, but lots they inioh, ing i can't remember if you did, but lots they inioh, you're tory mps. they said, oh, you're you're being ridiculous. three years you, tory years later, i tell you, no tory mps are laughing at us now. i've led the driven that led the party, driven it to that growth. a big job. the growth. but it's a big job. the more successful you are, the more successful you are, the more we and i've more help we need. and i've absolutely said more help absolutely said the more help that give the better. that nigel can give the better. and will huge, huge opportunity. will you stand clacton ? >> will you stand in clacton? >> will you stand in clacton? >> nigel, you'll have to >> well, nigel, you'll have to ask polling. his ask him some polling. say his decision. the polling says that he well win. it's a huge he could well win. it's a huge decision. i'm quite sure, nigel. he'd very much like be in
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he'd very much like to be in parliament. we know first parliament. but we know first past post is difficult. past the post is difficult. these decisions for these are big decisions for nigel richard tice. >> thank forjoining us >> thank you for joining us today gb news richard tice today on gb news richard tice there the leader of reform there the leader of the reform party running party with his idea of running the country like a business. we'll voters like it . we'll see if voters like it. >> well, we can speak now with gb news political editor christopher hope, who of course conducted that interview and christopher , what for you was christopher, what for you was the standout moment, the one in, one out policy defection unit supposedly within reform uk ? or supposedly within reform uk? or this idea that it could be, uh, permissive under various treaties to actually turn back the boats . yes the boats. yes >> yeah. i think me and richard both had our weetabix when we did that interview. i mean, i think it's important that the channel does take on all the party leaders and reform uk is surging in the polls. i mean, richard tice is of course a presenter on this channel, but he is a leader of a party which is at 12 points in the polls, he
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says, rising to 13 points shortly. that's a long way away from the dems . it makes them from the lib dems. it makes them essentially the polls. essentially in the polls. britain's third party. so we have give them that grilling have to give them that grilling over what would do and is over what they would do and is it realistic what they're offering now? think a sense offering now? i think in a sense they are offering a fresher , a they are offering a fresher, a breath of fresh air. they are offering new thinking on familiar problems and that, of course , is really enticing for course, is really enticing for voters . he talks there about voters. he talks there about returns, agreement using the safety at sea treaty 74, the un convention on the on the law at sea 1982. of course, the government says they can't just tow boats back because you have tow boats back because you have to negotiate the return agreement. the agreement. agreement with the european union, france european union, not with france alone. thinks alone. richard tice thinks there's a way around one there's a way around that. one in, out, he talks about in, one out, he talks about 450,000 arrive here on average over five years. the same leave i mean, the figures last year are we know how bad they are. one point not bad about how large they are. 1.2 million arrived 502,000 left. now to get that figure down to 450,000 is
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quite a lot . but that figure down to 450,000 is quite a lot. but i think generally , you know, he said the generally, you know, he said the tories were laughing at us three years ago. well, they're not now. and that's why it's important we give all leaders of all parties grilling. all parties a grilling. >> . well, thank you very >> yes. well, thank you very much. you certainly did that . gb much. you certainly did that. gb news political editor christopher speak to christopher hope we'll speak to you in the show. i hope you later on in the show. i hope again, you go . i think, again, there you go. i think, you richard tice talking you know, richard tice talking about , but his about starmageddon, but his party polling at does make party polling at 12% does make it likely that keir starmer party polling at 12% does make it getlikely that keir starmer party polling at 12% does make it get the y that keir starmer party polling at 12% does make it get the keyst keir starmer party polling at 12% does make it get the keys to eir starmer party polling at 12% does make it get the keys to number]er party polling at 12% does make it get the keys to number 10. will get the keys to number 10. well, that's an argument. that's an just can't help but >> also, i just can't help but think on turning back the think on this turning back the boats thing. i can't i can't even count the number of home office advice workers and indeed home secretaries that i've spoken to over the last, i think, five years, where often i ask this question, why can't you just turn back the boats? and they all say we've taken legal advice this. you can't do it advice on this. you can't do it because it's half of the channel is you is french waters, and you need an agreement france to do an agreement with france to do it. sure i buy this idea it. i'm not sure i buy this idea that there has been this right all along . to turn. need to
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france. >> it looks like we're going to need some fresh thinking on that >> it looks like we're going to need rcertainlyh thinking on that >> it looks like we're going to need rcertainly let]inking on that >> it looks like we're going to need rcertainly let using on that >> it looks like we're going to need rcertainly let us know] that issue. certainly let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.uk but coming vaiews@gbnews.uk com but coming up, live tel aviv up, we'll be live in tel aviv because the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu , minister, benjamin netanyahu, has told the us he opposes the need for a palestinian state. before that, it's your headlines . tom and emily. >> thank you very much. good afternoon. from the gb news room. the headlines just after half past 12. our top story today. half past 12. our top story today . tata steel has confirmed today. tata steel has confirmed that up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot site. that says the company transitions to a greener way of working . the cuts will be made working. the cuts will be made over the next 18 months. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect the protect staff and defend the steel industry . we the home steel industry. we the home office, has admitted more than 6000 asylum seekers are missing in the uk. it comes as members
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of the house of lords outlined plans that could stall rishi sunak's flagship rwanda policy. the group of peers, led by a former labour attorney general, wants to delay the treaty until the government can show that rwanda is safe for asylum seekers. as . new ofsted guidance seekers. as. new ofsted guidance will allow school visits in england to be paused if staff show any signs of distress. the announcement comes after a coroner called for change following the death of headteacher ruth perry. she took her own life in january last year after caversham primary school was downgraded from outstanding to inadequate . the outstanding to inadequate. the uk's health agency has declared a national incident warning urgent action is needed to stop further outbreaks of measles figures show there have been more than 200 confirmed cases since october. vaccination rates have been dropping and concerns have been dropping and concerns have been dropping and concerns have been raised about particular areas, including parts of london and west midlands . and as ever, you can
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news who's . news who's. >> good afternoon britain. it's 20 minutes to one and you've
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been getting in touch, particularly on the biggest story of the day . those jobs story of the day. those jobs that are now going to be going in port talbot at tata steel. yes neil, you've written in, you say, with the announced job losses and cessation of virgin steelmaking at port talbot , we steelmaking at port talbot, we will have to import this virgin steel from abroad to make our new ships and tanks for the military great planning, neil says. >> tell the sailors and soldiers that they'll have to wait for steel before they can steel from china before they can have the equipment they so desperately need, and he's not the only one who's written in on china. >> brian that i used to >> brian says that i used to work in the defence industry . we work in the defence industry. we weren't to use chinese weren't allowed to use chinese steel poor steel because of its poor quality . if we were forced to quality. if we were forced to use chinese steel because of time constraints, the chinese steel be retested in this steel had to be retested in this country and recertify tied to british standards and then usually it could only be used in certain temperature constraints. bnan certain temperature constraints. brian says we need to keep our steelworks well. >> it's good to have that insight, says the insight, mike says closing the steelworks nut steelworks is yet another nut case our country. we
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case decision by our country. we pay case decision by our country. we pay three times more for our energy than the usa does. very true. no wonder our steel industry is uneconomical . we industry is uneconomical. we have all these green levies and wonderful smart metres. a little bit of sarcasm in there. we are a country. we as a country must be the laughing stock of china, russia, etc. we are going nuts in our obsession to reach net zero. yes liam halligan our business and economics editor, spoke about how these jobs are a casualty of the drive to net zero. no doubt. >> no, it's certainly true. a lot of people don't realise . and lot of people don't realise. and of course energy did massively increase in costs in the last year or so because of the ukraine crisis . year or so because of the ukraine crisis. but year or so because of the ukraine crisis . but even before ukraine crisis. but even before then, from . 2004 to 2021, the then, from. 2004 to 2021, the industrial price of energy tripled . and that's before the tripled. and that's before the energy crisis , before russia had energy crisis, before russia had its full scale invasion of ukraine, the industrial price of energy rose by three fold. and of course, that's going to make energy intensive industries less competitive, less productive and more expensive. >> i mean, people do say people
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who are very free market do say, well , why do we need who are very free market do say, well, why do we need this industry in the country? we can just import it. so it's very interesting to hear from brian about how chinese steel had to be recertified, had to be rechecked, wasn't in high enough quality . quality. >> you do wonder if that is genuine because the chinese of course, do make their own chips out of their own steel. you wonder if that is bit of wonder if that is a bit of protectionism the mod. protectionism from the mod. just saying. can import saying. oh yes, we can import chinese going chinese steel, but we're going to recertify it all. to have to recertify it all. >> well either way, sure. pretty humiliating for the british industry there very industry anyway, there is a very simple answer here, which is energy not as energy should not be as expensive as in the uk. expensive as it is in the uk. >> and then you don't need this complicated web of subsidies. >> keep your >> well, there you go. keep your views in gb views at views coming in gb views at gbillionews.com. devastating for the those gbillionews.com. devastating for the have those gbillionews.com. devastating for the have lost those gbillionews.com. devastating for the have lost their those gbillionews.com. devastating for the have lost their jobs. those gbillionews.com. devastating for the have lost their jobs. of»se who have lost theirjobs. of course, first and foremost. >> now the sister of bronson >> but now the sister of bronson battersby , the two year old who battersby, the two year old who starved to death after his father suffered a fatal heart attack, has said she does not blame the police or social services for the toddler's death
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, saying they did what they could with within the powers that they had. >> yes, this comes as the independent office for police conduct says they will start an investigation on whether there were any missed opportunities to save bronson and his dad. very different testimony to the one from the mother that we heard yesterday. so let's cross to skegness and speak to our east midlands. reporter will hollis, who's been following this story very closely . will interesting very closely. will interesting testimony there from the sister of this poor boy . yes of this poor boy. yes >> complete contrast to what we've been hearing over the last few days from bronson's mum , few days from bronson's mum, sarah, who put the blame squarely on the feet of social services . lincolnshire county services. lincolnshire county council has ordered a rapid review. we'll expect to hear the findings from that in about two weeks time. at the start of february, but this is a completely different take. this comes from melanie battersby, who's been speaking to the bbc.
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now she is the much older sister of bronson. she's in her late 30s. her dad is kenny, who is the man who had a heart attack where bronson was living here in skegness, a different mother to bronson, though , and in that bronson, though, and in that interview that she's been speaking with the bbc for, she said social services and the police did what they could with in the powers that they had . she in the powers that they had. she also went on to say that her dad was born to be wild and not an angel was born to be wild and not an angel, but he really , really angel, but he really, really loved his children. so a complete contrast from what we've been hearing in some other media reports, there is a review in place . the independent police in place. the independent police office for conduct. they are also going to be looking at how the police handled this. of course, that's because when there was supposed to be meetings with the social workers and kenny visiting bronson over
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christmas, the police were informed of the fact that those meetings weren't able to be had. and it was only on the third attempt that the landlady, along with social services and later the police, were able to gain access, which is where we, of course, found that horrific discovery of two bodies discovery of the two bodies lying together. we've also heard a little of something a little bit of something else as yesterday came out as well, that yesterday came out in the news that there was actually a burglary at the property just in the hours after the bodies were discovered. so while everybody else in the community was devastated, some people decided to go into the home break into the home and steal pills as well as money. so quite horrific details that are coming out in a story that has shocked the nation . shocked the nation. >> well, hollis, thank you very much for bringing us the very latest live from skegness . latest live from skegness. >> yes. well, the israeli in other news, the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has told the united states that he is opposed to the establishment of a palestinian state once the war in gaza ends.
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>> he also told a news conference that he will press on with the israeli offensive in gaza until complete victory , and gaza until complete victory, and warned that it could take many more months. >> now, israel's allies , >> now, israel's allies, including the uk and the united states , have, of course, long states, have, of course, long urged for the revival of a two state solution in which a future palestinian state would live side by side with israel. well, we can speak now to the israeli journalist yotam confino and yotam , this is such sad news, yotam, this is such sad news, i suppose for many allies and friends of israel in the west who desperately want to see that two state solution and particularly sad, given that after the abraham accords and as things were getting closer to normalisation with saudi arabia , normalisation with saudi arabia, things really looked like there could have been a palestinian state back on the table and then october changed all of it . october changed all of it. >> it did. it changed a lot, obviously. but i do think it's important to mention that what
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the international system wants and what the israelis and the palestinians want, it's simply not the same. we had the same dilemma when the international system kept pressing for the palestinian authority to be the one taking over control of gaza. the palestinians don't want that. the israelis don't want that. the israelis don't want that. now we have a similar situation where the international system keeps yelling for a two state solution. the israelis don't want it. and also, if you ask the palestinians, don't the palestinians, they don't want . according to the most want it. according to the most recent poll by gallup , only recent poll by gallup, only a fourth of all palestinians would like a two state solution. and interestingly enough , it's the interestingly enough, it's the same when you ask the israelis about a fourth of israelis would like a two state solution. so netanyahu is not saying anything thatis netanyahu is not saying anything that is very different from the palestinians. obviously, they would like to have most of them have one large palestinian state. some would like one big state. some would like one big state where both live timeline. it's not a very popular, uh, solution. this two states, two state solution that the international system wants .
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international system wants. >> your time. i think one of the interesting points of view here is that perhaps last year, the two state solution might not have been, oh, i think we might have been, oh, i think we might have some communication problems there. we'll see if we can re—establish. oh, that's a shame. this line with yotam confino. really , really confino. but really, really interesting we'll interesting stuff there. we'll see. uh, see. as we can say, uh, re—establish that moment . re—establish that in a moment. >> yes. well let's move on. um, re—establish that in a moment. >.topes. well let's move on. um, re—establish that in a moment. >.top nato.l let's move on. um, re—establish that in a moment. >.top nato officialnove on. um, re—establish that in a moment. >.top nato official has] on. um, re—establish that in a moment. >.top nato official has said um, a top nato official has said that civilians in the west must prepare for an all out war with russia within 20 years, the admiral rob bauer has warned that a large numbers of civilians will need to be mobilised in case of the outbreak of war, and governments should put systems in place to streamline this process. he also singled out sweden for praises, which has already begun for praise, which has already begun organising civil defence forces ahead of its formal accession to the alliance . so should we speak the alliance. so should we speak to defence analyst and former british army officer , lieutenant
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british army officer, lieutenant colonel stuart crossley , colonel stuart crossley, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford stuart, thank you very much for joining crawford stuart, thank you very much forjoining us all right, tom. all right. tom uh, stuart, thank you very much for joining us. so we're hearing talk of a potential all out war between nato and russia. what is the likelihood of such a thing ? likelihood of such a thing? >> um. uh good afternoon and thank you for correcting the americanism that that of lieutenant. um, the likelihood of war happening against russia is fairly remote, in my opinion . is fairly remote, in my opinion. ian. uh, because we've seen from ukraine, uh, what a meal they're making of an attack on a relatively small and relatively unprepared state. and i've said many, many , many times before , many, many, many times before, uh, the thought of russia taking on nato is almost inconceivable because russia would lose, lose badly . and i think putin knows badly. and i think putin knows this . however, it does no harm,
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this. however, it does no harm, uh, for the west to be prepared or to start preparations. uh, in the unlikely, uh , happening of, the unlikely, uh, happening of, of that event . and of that event. and interestingly, you'll notice that all the baltic states and finland and now sweden have introduced various measures, uh, defence of measures against that threat , defence of measures against that threat, including widespread conscription . so i think that conscription. so i think that whilst , um, the threat of all whilst, um, the threat of all out war is remote and the germans have said it could happen within five years, which i think is highly unlikely, but that any harm to that doesn't do any harm to start as what do you start preparation as what do you think to the idea that there should be some sort of level of , should be some sort of level of, of national service of ability to, to grow the armed forces and potentially the reserves or even a sense of duty amongst young people in this country. >> and many others like it, is that an argument that to some extent carries favour with you ?
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extent carries favour with you? >> well, there is an argument to be made there, i think. speaking as a former professional regular army officer , uh, one would army officer, uh, one would always rather have willing volunteers than pressed men . um, volunteers than pressed men. um, as the old saying, would have it, but it's quite clear that in current circumstances there aren't enough willing volunteers coming forward to join our own armed services . and so at some armed services. and so at some point, we're going to have to consider how we deal with this problem . um, now, defence problem. um, now, defence secretary grant shapps has already spoken in an aside about introduction of conscription . introduction of conscription. again, i think that, uh, conscript men can mean all things to all people. and, uh, the idea of compulsory military service is one that wouldn't find much favour. but i think the whole idea of civil responsibility, because with with civil rights goes civil responsibility is, is something that should be explored further . that should be explored further. >> well, lieutenant colonel
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stuart crawford , um, i suppose stuart crawford, um, i suppose one of the other big, big issues that, uh, people are thinking about right now is how much further could potential conflict spill over? it's not just russia that we have to worry about, but of course, the middle east is a huge concern as we've just been speaking about. and indeed, china to appearing more and more belligerent. this is a more dangerous . world. oh i don't dangerous. world. oh i don't think there's any doubt about that. >> it's, um, it's arguably more dangerous than it was during the cold war , because then we had a cold war, because then we had a clear and present danger and were prepared to deal with it. uh, but there are so many diverse and geographically spread, uh, points of, um, conflict or potential conflict around the world that it's difficult to know in many ways, literally which way to face. um, so i think that britain , uh, and so i think that britain, uh, and her allies have to be minded if
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not prepared, that they could be asked to deploy to other parts of the world and at fairly short nofice of the world and at fairly short notice whether, of course, we can still do that with our limited armed forces. is another question altogether . question altogether. >> no, it is. it is a very, very difficult question because, of course, the united kingdom is no longer that it, uh, all encompassing hegemonic power. we do have to do things, i suppose, to some extent in lockstep with our nato allies . is nato as an our nato allies. is nato as an alliance s stronger or weaker today? uh, given what we know is happening in ukraine, but also given the potential disruption in the united states over the next 12 months. >> uh, well, that's the that is the question, isn't it? i mean, nato is, uh, i think quite clearly the most successful defensive military alliance that the world has ever seen . but it the world has ever seen. but it is very much a case of, of, uh, the involving the usa and for
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european states, the reason that they want to be in nato is that it guarantees , uh, us it guarantees, uh, us protection. should they be attacked by external forces. now, what will happen when, uh, the us presidential elections happen this november and it's looking increasing likely that donald trump may be returned for a second time. is a moot point. um he has often said that europe doesn't pull its weight when it comes to defending itself, and at one point actually threatened to withdraw the usa from nato , to withdraw the usa from nato, which would be disastrous for the um, for the alliance and for the um, for the alliance and for the european states, which is why there's been so much chat recently about an eu army. although that has yet that idea has yet to go through. >> i'm afraid i'm going to have to interrupt you there. apologies. we have reached the end of the hour, but we'll have much, much more coming up here on. good afternoon britain, including after this.
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including royal news after this. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler as sponsors of whether on gb news . hello whether on gb news. hello >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast much milder weather this weekend as it returns to wet and very windy storm isha has been named for later sunday and into monday , but it's going and into monday, but it's going to be blustery all weekend. spells of rain will move through dunng spells of rain will move through during saturday and more especially into sunday. and here's storm isha bringing some disruptive and damaging wind gusts during sunday night and into . but for the time into monday. but for the time being, it's actually relatively calm out there. clear skies for the midlands, east anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the south of england with a frost in places, but elsewhere, actually we lose frost actually we lose the frost because atlantic because we gain the atlantic cloud and spells of rain. there'll still be some hill or mountain snow for scotland, but otherwise it will be largely rain as milder moves in from rain as milder air moves in from the west . and it's going be the west. and it's going to be a breezy day on saturday,
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gb news. >> good afternoon britain . it is >> good afternoon britain. it is 1:00 on friday the 19th of january. >> steel on the rocks. tata steel's port talbot plant confirms . 2800 job losses as it confirms. 2800 job losses as it closes blast furnaces in favour of eco friendly electric arc models , has net zero crippled models, has net zero crippled this strategic industry? >> sussex's silence prince harry and meghan maintain public silence over charles and kate's
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medical dramas . we'll find out medical dramas. we'll find out why. from our royal correspondent karen walker and dangerous . schools. dangerous. schools. >> the new ofsted chief has warned. behaviour at some schools is so bad that staff are locking themselves in their classrooms during break times for their own safety. is there a discipline crisis in our schools ? well you've been getting in touch all day about our top story, which of course is those job losses at tata steel . job losses at tata steel. >> and our question really, of whether net zero and the push to decarbonisation is the problem here is at fault for all of these, these job losses. and it seems it absolutely is. >> well, there is no denying that the industrial price of energy has quadrupled in the last two decades, even before the energy crisis, the ukraine
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war and all of that, it had risen by by two thirds or no, it had trebled, trebled more than two thirds, 300% rise at and given the industrial price, thank you very much. given the industrial price of energy getting has got this expensive, it becomes harder and harder to deliver energy intensive industries. no wonder they're all facing these problems. >> well, audrey thinks it's all very sad. she says it's so sad to see the steelworks go. we need steel and should nationalise these steelworks now . and the drive to net zero, she said, is just making us poorer. not necessarily cleaner. i'm not sure how nationalising the industry would help. >> still have it's >> you'd still have to. it's still poorer if you still making you poorer if you have to subsidise something that you . i mean, problem is the you. i mean, the problem is the government half government have already put half £1 into recently £1 billion into it recently to help transition help with the green transition and to subsidise jobs and in order to subsidise jobs and the like. >> clearly not enough and the like. >> keep clearly not enough and the like. >> keep theseearly not enough and the like. >> keep these steelworks ough and the like. >> keep these steelworks going . to keep these steelworks going. >> no, but i magic nationalisation doesn't save an industry. let us know what industry. well let us know what you think. industry. well let us know what you gb nk. industry. well let us know what you gb views gbnews.com. industry. well let us know what yougb views gbnews.com. let's >> gb views gbnews.com. let's get headlines . tom
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get your headlines. tom >> emily, thank you very much. good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. the headlines are just after 1:00. our top story today. tata steelwork has . confirmed tata steelwork has. confirmed that 2800 jobs could be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot site. the cuts will be made over the next 18 months as the company transitions to a greener way of working the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry. while speaking a few moments ago, barry evans has been working at the steelworks for 28 years. >> obviously devastated and, um, let down by tata and the uk government. we do feel there's an opportunity to we understand we've got to go green, but a transition should be over decades, not months . decades, not months. >> and speaking ahead of the announcement, the prime minister said that the government does remain committed to british steel making .
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steel making. >> the government provided half £1 billion to support tata, the alternative, by the way, was that the entire plant would be closed and all 8000 jobs would be lost. but the government worked with company, provided worked with a company, provided half pounds. the half a billion pounds. the company investing more money company is investing more money in to safeguard thousands in order to safeguard thousands of jobs, that's something of jobs, and that's something that uk government has done. that the uk government has done. the welsh government did not participate in that, that's participate in that, and that's because about those because we cared about those jobs future of jobs and the future of steelmaking in and the uk . steelmaking in wales and the uk. >> well , elsewhere, the home >> well, elsewhere, the home office has admitted more than 6000 asylum seekers are missing in the uk. it comes as members of the house of lords outlined plans that could stall rishi sunaks flagship rwanda policy. the group of peers, led by a former labour attorney general, wants to delay the treaty until the government can show that rwanda is safe for asylum seekers . a metropolitan police seekers. a metropolitan police officer has been charged with rape. sergeant leo boateng is due to appear in court accused of committing the crime while off duty in november 2022. he
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storm eischer set to hit the uk this weekend. it's only the second time in a season that a storm has been named, with the letter i in the alphabet , letter i in the alphabet, forecasters say wind gusts of up to 80 miles an hour could be expected , and power cuts and expected, and power cuts and damage to buildings are also possible. the warnings come into effect from sunday until monday morning . that's the latest from morning. that's the latest from the gb newsroom for now. for more, we're on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. just say play gb news now though. back to tom and . emily though. back to tom and. emily goode. >> afternoon, britain. it's 1:07 and tata steel confirms plans to close blue furnaces on its port talbot site in south wales. this impacts 2800 jobs and commenting on the tata steel announcement, andrew t davies, the leader of the welsh conservatives, said
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this today is an incredibly difficult day for wales . difficult day for wales. >> my thoughts are with those steelworkers and subcontractors who will be losing their jobs in the coming months, and their families. this situation must be handled with care by all. decision makers involved. i'm confident that the transition board will achieve this . well, board will achieve this. well, joining us now is economics and business editor liam halligan , business editor liam halligan, who's been following developments . liam, tell . us. developments. liam, tell. us. >> grim news here from port talbot, britain's biggest steel plant. they've been making steel and the plant behind me since before 1900. you can see behind me the two blast furnaces, which are now to be closed down. two of only four working blast furnaces in the uk. the other two are, of course, also controlled by tata at their steelworks in scunthorpe in lincolnshire . tata have made lincolnshire. tata have made this announcement, as you say, 4000 steelworkers here in port talbot , 4000 steelworkers here in port talbot, britain's biggest steel plant, 2800 jobs to be lost, the
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lion's share of them here in port talbot. we suspect around 2500. the others in other tata sites, possibly to be confirmed. hartlepool shotton, wolverhampton , corby. we're not wolverhampton, corby. we're not yet sure, but to get more on this i'm joined now here on gb news . with peter hughes. peter news. with peter hughes. peter is the leader of the welsh branch of the unite union. peter a sad day, a very sad day . a sad day, a very sad day. >> it's a sad day for the steel industry and it's a sad day for wales. like you said, this plant's been producing steel for over years. it's the over 100 years. it's the lifeblood community over 100 years. it's the lifebloc here. community over 100 years. it's the lifeblochere. and ommunity over 100 years. it's the lifebloc here. and om makey over 100 years. it's the lifebloc here. and om make 2500 around here. and to make 2500 people redundant from here, it's devastated. >> what's actually at stake here is the blast furnaces behind us are being shut down because because they emit lots of carbon , we're moving away from the creation of virgin steel using coke and coal to arc furnaces. what's the difference between these two processes? and in your view, why is virgin steel made
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using blast furnaces so important? >> the when you produce virgin steel it's a better quality of steel. knows steel. everybody knows that. that's two blast that's why these two blast furnaces here. you're quite furnaces are here. you're quite right. close them because right. they close them because the decarbonisation. they the decarbonisation. but they don't decarbonise until don't need to decarbonise until 2034. so is a very rash 2034. so this is a very rash decision. in fact, i believe it's vandalism because when you're making it, virgin steel, which and makes better which produces and makes better classes , steel. and then you put classes, steel. and then you put electric arc furnace in there that would make that would help to grow the steel industry within uk . unite has within the uk. unite has done a study, the industry is going to grow, need steel is grow, the need for steel is going 25% in the next going to grow by 25% in the next ten years. we need to be at the forefront of that where it's tattered, have made the decision to cut that off when them tattered, have made the decision to c blast that off when them tattered, have made the decision to c blast furnaces,vhen them tattered, have made the decision to c blast furnaces, ifen them tattered, have made the decision to c blast furnaces, if them em tattered, have made the decision to c blast furnaces, if them two two blast furnaces, if them two blast furnaces closed because unite them when unite will fight for them when if will mean . if they close, that will mean. like you said, 2500 people redundant. but it'll also mean when you build an electric arc furnace that's going to take five years to build. so for the next years, you're to next five years, you're going to be steel from india be bringing steel in from india and that's and you're telling me that's green, from all the way green, but from all the way across the other side of the
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world, made exactly the same way as are as they made here all tata are doing emissions doing is moving their emissions to india not here. indeed to india and not here. indeed when virgin steel, we when we make virgin steel, we can of ore. can make it out of iron ore. >> we make it within the >> we can make it within the british isles. it's strategically our steel. we are now going to be, aren't we, peter hughes, the only country in the g7, the only advanced industrial country, the only country in the g20 that can't make virgin steel at a time when we're going to be reliant on steel imports through the red sea from china and india. and what's going on in the red sea, well, it's ridiculous. >> you look what's happening in the red sea now. the steel is going to be made in india. it's going to be made in india. it's going to be made in india. it's going to go through the suez canal going to go through the suez canal, which protected by the canal, which is protected by the uk, uk. could we speak? canal, which is protected by the ukthat's uk. could we speak? canal, which is protected by the ukthat's uk. to jld we speak? canal, which is protected by the ukthat's uk. to be we speak? canal, which is protected by the ukthat's uk. to be coming]k? so that's going to be coming through steel is going to so that's going to be coming thrcoming steel is going to so that's going to be coming thrcoming here rteel is going to so that's going to be coming thrcoming here tozl is going to so that's going to be coming thrcoming here to make )ing to so that's going to be coming thrcoming here to make warships be coming here to make warships to protect the to go back into protect the supply . it's crazy. supply chain. it's crazy. and but if you then take it through around the cape that adds £3 million to that shipping. so it's a crazy decision . by tata.
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it's a crazy decision. by tata. it's a naive decision by tata that that number four blast furnace should be kept open till the end of life, which is 2032. the plan it should be kept the plan is it should be kept open 2032. and when producing open to 2032. and when producing electric in 2029 and electric arc steel in 2029 and then up make something then ramp up and make something else. carbon else. yeah, if that's carbon emission is wrong, fine. but close it down at this end of life and then put something in then which isn't carbon . then which isn't carbon. >> now rishi sunak's government has given tata , of course, has given tata, of course, a huge indian multinational conglomerate , half £1 billion, conglomerate, half £1 billion, £500 million in order to in order to help them finance the closing of those blast furnaces and the creation of those arc furnaces. uh, tata say that they're putting in about £2 billion. there's lots of money at stake. what do you think of the tory party's judgement ? what the tory party's judgement? what do you think when you hear the tory welsh leader, david tc davies, saying that his heart goes out to the local community here in port talbot, who have literally been making steel here
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for generations. it's ridiculous. >> when is a government ever give half £1 billion to make two, 2500 people redundant? that most of that will go on redundancy pay? it's ridiculous. it's an absolute sham . any it's an absolute sham. any government that gives someone else money for making people redundant, it's bizarre. it's the most bizarre decision ever. when you're giving, there should be guarantees . if your be guarantees. if your government's giving people money, it should be. yeah. to make better steel. yeah. to employ people. there for the whole community. the whole everywhere around the south wales valleys would benefit from it. what they've done is give people money to make other people money to make other people it's farce . people redundant. it's a farce. >> you know, peter hughes, the unite union, knows what's really going on here kind of clash going on here is a kind of clash of cultures . it's almost a clash of cultures. it's almost a clash of cultures. it's almost a clash of civilised nations. you have a largely urban , urban, um, group largely urban, urban, um, group of voters and urban based political and media class who seem to put environmental imperatives above absolutely everything. and we have another
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part of the uk in the red wall here in south wales , the here in south wales, the midlands, the north east, scotland, where steel is made , scotland, where steel is made, where our manufacturing heartlands are . and while they heartlands are. and while they want a cleaner for world their kids and grandkids, they think, don't they, that this environmental imperative, the costs are falling disproportionately on them . disproportionately on them. >> correct. and it's all about the red wall voters. there's an election coming up in october. it's about what did they want for their future generations . for their future generations. they have worked they said people have worked here 100 years. family upon here for 100 years. family upon family upon family. so we've got to that. we need to to protect that. we need that to grow and part of that is the red wall seats, the red wall seats here, sheffield, scunthorpe, anywhere be anywhere else, we should be saying mps there, are you saying to the mps there, are you going are you going to support us? are you going to support us? are you going to support us? are you going to steel a priority? going to make steel a priority? what the labour government, the labour said they want labour party have said they want to invest £3 billion. why then the tata want potentially the tata want to potentially close blast furnace in close the blast furnace in october, when they potentially could be an election in november, could then go november, which could then go into the new and there's into the new year, and there's £3 billion available for the steel . it doesn't make
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steel industry. it doesn't make sense, have got sense, but labour have got a problem as well, haven't they? >> labour >> because labour, labour have got their urban got their sort of urban professional, trendy voters, if you , who are, you know, you like, who are, you know, greener than green. for them, environmentalism is everything. and yet labour have also got their constituencies. their heartland constituencies. you , backed by the likes of you know, backed by the likes of the unite union with huge respect. how can labour square that circle? manufacturing heartlands? on the one hand, environmental imperatives on the other? i want to talk about manufacturing. >> my members are in manufacturing. i care about manufacturing. i care about manufacturing . i was from the manufacturing. i was from the steel industry that's steel industry myself. that's what make sure this what i want to make sure this place because that's place survives, because that's ultimately what we want. and if labour going to give £3 labour are going to give £3 billion in the new year, if they get in you know what i mean, get in and you know what i mean, if man, you say if you're a better man, you say they so so why they get in, so what? so why then this company making a decision to close four decision to close number four blast of the blast furnace at the end of the year it could be kept open year when it could be kept open and could and future funding could be there it. crazy . it's there for it. it's crazy. it's as if tata have made their decision and it's made in a boardroom in india, not actually in the grasslands and the hotter
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we're going to be importing steel for the next five years, it's ridiculous. it's absolutely ridiculous what the plan is. and it isn't a plan. it's actually like i've said, vandalism. >> you're a hugely knowledgeable former steel worker, if i may say so. peter let's just drill in in the last couple of minutes to the details. the blast furnace is behind us. do use coking coal that emits lots of carbon. if we import steel, there's carbon embodied in that steel because that's used coking coalin steel because that's used coking coal in other countries. and then there's the carbon emissions from the diesel in the freight ships that transport it. these arc furnaces is it can they produce virgin steel or if not, can you use blast furnaces with something apart from dirty coking coal? >> yeah you can, you can make dirty arise which is a different way of hydrogen and everything else which. aren't else which is which. why aren't we i think that's we doing that? i think that's what they should be investing in. step. in. that is the next step. that's, you built that's, you know, if you built an arc furnace in a dry an electric arc furnace in a dry area something similar area or, or or something similar that would that would alleviate
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all problems they're talking all the problems they're talking about. but when you say about the carbon emissions is it's not until 2034 or later, 2040, why are they making decision to do it now? it's purely a financial decision . it's nothing to do decision. it's nothing to do about being going greener. it's doing about going greener. the electric arc would be running before they close them. furnaces >> peter hughes may i ask you this? finally, what do you think? when you see politicians around the world clamouring to be photographed with greta thunberg ? thunberg? >> well, it . we've all got we've >> well, it. we've all got we've all got a duty to be greener. let's be honest. i mean, we've all got children and children, our children's children and the future but it's no future is great, but it's no reason this couldn't be the reason why this couldn't be the saccharine capital of european steel . let's be proud of it. steel. let's be proud of it. this should be the green capital of europe making steel which we export to europe. we don't want to be a net importer because that's an absolutely crazy situation to be in. and what it demands then, if world demands then, if third world countries, you might not want to
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supply us, but spending money on technology, , technology, not redundancies, correct. that's the money correct. that's what the money should on. should be spent on. >> hughes, the welsh >> peter hughes, the welsh leader of the union, unites, as you can hear , passions are you can hear, passions are running incredibly high here in port talbot. 2800 jobs are to be lost . the blast furnace is lost. the blast furnace is behind me along with those in scunthorpe, are to close the end of an era . the end here of of an era. the end here of a proud steelmaking community in port talbot. thank you very much indeed, liam, for bringing us that interview. >> fantastic stuff to hear from peter hughes there from the union there. he um, well, very good point. that £500 million from the government, most of it to go on redundancy payments likely, or at least a large chunk. likely, or at least a large chunk . does that make sense? chunk. does that make any sense? >> think i think of us >> i think i think both of us are really quite that. are really quite enjoyed that. final liam. liam final question from liam. liam halligan, there are our leaders paying halligan, there are our leaders paying much attention to paying too much attention to a swedish former schoolgirl. he wasn't quite drawn on it, but we got a gist though. >> got a gist. um, but coming got a gist though. >> conspicuoust. um, but coming got a gist though. >> conspicuous silence)ut coming
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got a gist though. >> conspicuous silence from iming up, conspicuous silence from harry and meghan after that double scare this double royal medical scare this week. latest with our royal week. the latest with our royal correspondent
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>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 1:22 and turning again to the royal healthcare's, which emerged earlier this week from the princess of wales, who remains in hospital following
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abdominal surgery to the king, who is set to face surgery for an enlarged prostate. well one thing which has been noted is the eerie silence from the sussexes. >> no public statement over the royal medical dramas. why might that be? let's talk to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker. a silence . so what can walker. a silence. so what can we take from that ? we take from that? >> well, we know that relations aren't great, do don't we? between the working royals and harry and meghan, i think i must stress that we haven't heard any statement from any members of the royal family, including harry and meghan , regarding the harry and meghan, regarding the health of the princess of wales and indeed, the king. but there is a serious issue here, and thatis is a serious issue here, and that is that we have three senior members of the royal family effectively out of action because one's in hospital, one's going into hospital next week and the other one is looking after his wife. so that just leaves queen camilla and let's say the junior working members of the royal family now there's this thing called a counsellor
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of state, whose role it is to depufise of state, whose role it is to deputise on behalf of king charles if he is ill, i.e, if he goes into hospital and cannot carry out his duties. now, usually that is the monarch's spouse, and that's camilla and the four most senior members of the four most senior members of the royal family in the line of succession over the age of 21. unless your heir apparent, in which case you have to be over the age of 18. so as it stands in law, that is prince harry, followed . by well, there's the followed. by well, there's the queen, followed by prince harry, william even followed then by prince harry, then prince andrew, and then his daughter princess beatrice . but in 2022, princess beatrice. but in 2022, the king was quite cunning and clever because he asked that two more names can be added to that list, and that's his two working siblings, prince anne and prince edward . so even if the king was edward. so even if the king was incapacitate and couldn't carry out his duties, then it's incredibly unlikely that both prince harry or indeed disgraced prince harry or indeed disgraced prince andrew would have to carry out duties on his behalf.
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although i have been assured that the king is not needing a deputy or not needing counsellor of state to deputise on his behalf when he goes into hospital next week, he can still carry out duties behind carry out his duties behind the scenes, through red scenes, going through his red boxes, signing official documents , etc. but we're not documents, etc. but we're not going to see in public. going to see him in public. >> you think it's a fair >> do you think it's a fair criticism ? uh, prince criticism? um, uh, to prince harry and meghan that they haven't made some kind of public statement. there were reports that perhaps prince harry, uh , that perhaps prince harry, uh, didn't hear about the various health scares from the royal family themselves. rather, he may have found out from the media. >> well, it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. we understand that prince william and prince harry are not on speaking terms . he rarely speaks speaking terms. he rarely speaks to the king, although i do know that he did speak to the king on his 75th birthday back in november . his 75th birthday back in november. but his 75th birthday back in november . but prince his 75th birthday back in november. but prince harry himself says in his memoir, spare, that he found out that the late queen died via a bbc news alert . although sources in news alert. although sources in the palace, according to many
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biographies and reports , were biographies and reports, were desperately trying to get hold of him, the reason they couldn't get is because get hold of him is because he was flight, his way was on a flight, uh, on his way to scotland, so it wouldn't surprise me if he found out about the king's ailment and indeed, of wales. about the king's ailment and indevia of wales. about the king's ailment and indevia to of wales. about the king's ailment and indevia to the of wales. about the king's ailment and indevia to the media, »f wales. about the king's ailment and indevia to the media, he iales. about the king's ailment and indevia to the media, he may uh, via to the media, he may well have of contacted them privately. we don't know. i suspect we're not going to get that information. but in terms of the public statement, we haven't public haven't had any public public statements from any members of the apart from the the royal family apart from the queen. aberdeen, queen. yesterday in aberdeen, where she said her husband's the king was fine and looking forward to work . forward to getting back to work. >> well, you very much >> well, thank you very much indeed for bringing us that. cameron walker, our royal correspondent, the very latest on the two health scares in the royal family and indeed the animosity between former senior royal members and current senior royals. >> a little statement might be nice just saying our thoughts, uh, you know, for a speedy recovery, perhaps that's a wishful thinking. >> well, of course it wasn't that long ago that that book alleged , um, one of those
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alleged that, um, one of those in hospital or both of in hospital or indeed both of those in hospital were the ones behind royal racism row . well, behind royal racism row. well, yes, lots of accusations , but, yes, lots of accusations, but, uh, shall we move on? >> yes. the new head of ofsted , >> yes. the new head of ofsted, sir martin oliver, has been laying bare the extent of the behaviour crisis. behavioural crisis in england's schools , crisis in england's schools, saying it is so bad that some schools within some schools there are no go areas for staff and some teachers, even lock themselves in classrooms for safety at lunchtime. absolute crazy. >> if this is true, this comes as ofsted is set to publish a new policy on pausing and inspection of a maintained school or academy, where a serious issue has been identified. this is as part of its response to the suicide of former headteacher ruth perry . former headteacher ruth perry. >> well, let's get the thoughts now of the headteacher of litchfield cathedral school, sue hannam, and sue, have you noficed hannam, and sue, have you noticed a nificant degrading of the level of behaviour of the level of discipline amongst
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students in recent years ? students in recent years? >> i think it's fair to say, first of all, that i am at litchfield cathedral school because we don't have those issues for which i am truly grateful. um, certainly speaking to colleagues who are in the maintained sector, i think there is a concern that in certain schools, behaviour has deteriorated . and i don't think deteriorated. and i don't think we can ignore the impact of the pandemic in all of this. i don't think that's irrelevant at all. it has cast a long shadow over education, and certainly children who have missed key moments in their education. um and in terms of socialisation, when they're younger , i think when they're younger, i think that's played a part. also um, but fundamental ali, you know, teachers go into schools to work because they're usually vocationally minded. they care about children, they care about education. often they're there to educate . they're not there to to educate. they're not there to be in an abusive environment . be in an abusive environment. but no, absolutely not. >> i mean, reading what the new
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head of ofsted had to say about behaviour in some of our schools is truly shocking. uh teachers locking themselves in their classroom during break and lunch time for safety reasons . uh, time for safety reasons. uh, students announcing that there's a no go corridor . it students announcing that there's a no go corridor. it belongs to the children as if children should be able to decide where teachers go . have teachers lost teachers go. have teachers lost all authority ? what's going on? all authority? what's going on? is it a problem with the head teachers? is it a problem with parents? not backing teachers? teachers? is it a problem with parechildren backing teachers? teachers? is it a problem with parechildren are :king teachers? teachers? is it a problem with parechildren are just teachers? teachers? is it a problem with parechildren are just more]ers? our children are just more naughty than ever. >> i think children have probably always been a bit naughty. i think probably we all were at some point and that's the whole point of schools and education, isn't it? if children knew everything, they wouldn't need to go to school. um, so they're all schools they're all in all schools trying learn things, some trying to learn things, some that curriculum, some that are on the curriculum, some that are on the curriculum, some that with wider that are to do with wider behaviour issues. i don't think teachers control . i do teachers have lost control. i do think that there's probably a need for additional need for some additional investment in some schools, and maybe ratios of adults to maybe the ratios of adults to children benefit from
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children would benefit from being different than the ones they are. i think that would they are. i do think that would make difference. i also they are. i do think that would make you difference. i also they are. i do think that would make you need erence. i also they are. i do think that would make you need toince. i also they are. i do think that would make you need to looki also they are. i do think that would make you need to look atlso they are. i do think that would make you need to look at the think you need to look at the school know, school environment. you know, you look at some the new you look at some of the new builds. environments that builds. nice environments that are purposeful and meaningful are purposeful and meaningful are great. we know we've had all sorts issues with school sorts of issues with school buildings you only buildings. you know, you only have about the ones have to think about the ones that suddenly condemned that were suddenly condemned overnight. many months that were suddenly condemned over]schools many months that were suddenly condemned over]schools that many months that were suddenly condemned over]schools that need ny months ago. schools that need investment are very difficult to run because actually a poor environment doesn't help behaviour . behaviour either. >> is it? is that the case? is it the environment that's to blame and resources ? is it not blame and resources? is it not an attitude problem among some children that sort of empower ed too much, almost sort of demanding respect from the teachers? rather, you know, teachers? rather, you know, teachers have to earn my respect rather than the other way round or it just seems that these students feel like they can run amok . amok. >> i think in every school there will be children who push up boundaries. and i think that's what youth does. and i've spent, you know, many, many years now
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working with and young working with children and young people . i think it's very easy people. i think it's very easy to tar all with the same to tar them all with the same brush. and that's fundamentally unfair. are unfair. you know, children are our they are our hope. our future. they are our hope. they ideas they are full of bright ideas and even ones who don't get it right all the way along end right all the way along can end up good place. so i up in a really good place. so i would first of all say we do need rebrand the way think need to rebrand the way we think about because about young people because there's great optimism. there's a great optimism. i think what young think in terms of what young people can do for us this people can do for us in this country a wider sense, country and in a wider sense, um, boundary laws are not um, where boundary laws are not clear. and i do think this is fundamental in any school where boundanes fundamental in any school where boundaries are not clear, you will have problems times. um, some while ago i was involved in a bbc documentary about the history and history of education, and we looked at the education of the 1970s, boundaries were 1970s, where the boundaries were really not clear, and they ran free that free schools that were incredibly to the extent incredibly free to the extent that children could choose whether they up. whether or not they turned up. they were . in disastrous. right. they were. in disastrous. right. i mean, it just didn't work. um, and it was ever so slightly lord of the flies and i think we need to make sure the schools
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to make sure that the schools have the resources that they have got the resources that they need uphold the need in order to uphold the boundanes need in order to uphold the boundaries where need to boundaries where they need to be. some of that is around be. and some of that is around resource. around resource. some of it is around manpower. but certainly the people that i've met through my education you education journey, you know, have been remarkable vocal , have been remarkable vocal, able, dedicated , um, and i don't able, dedicated, um, and i don't think children have necessarily got worse. i think society changes and i think schools have to change with it. and i think we have been dealt some body blows along the way and also you only have to look at the recruitment of teachers. and this is irrelevant either. this is not irrelevant either. we only put the people that we can only put the people that are the marketplace are out there in the marketplace in our children, and are out there in the marketplace in governmenthildren, and are out there in the marketplace in government have n, and are out there in the marketplace in government have not nd are out there in the marketplace in government have not hit the government have not hit their target for recruitment of teachers a number years teachers for a number of years now, where is that going to end up? that's not going to improve any this. think you've any of this. so i think you've almost take the argument almost got to take the argument onto level here, because onto a macro level here, because we can only play the hand that we're dealt in schools , and we're dealt in schools, and that's the people that we've gotten, resources we've got. yeah. >> and stories like this of teachers cowering in classrooms
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is hardly going to with is hardly going to help with the recruitment is hardly going to help with the rec|certainly not. of course. is hardly going to help with the rec|thisainly not. of course. is hardly going to help with the rec|thisainly rthis of course. is hardly going to help with the rec|thisainly rthis unlikely]. is hardly going to help with the rec|thisainly rthis unlikely to >> this is, is this unlikely to be representative of all schools? course , but still shocking. >> but it does show, i suppose, how schooling isn't just about learning, reading and writing and arithmetic. it's also about learning how to be a functional member of society , about member of society, about politeness, order, about politeness, about order, about discipline. sue hannam, thank you so much forjoining us. headteacher lichfield headteacher of lichfield cathedral one the cathedral school, one of the schools not experiencing those big behavioural difficulties . big behavioural difficulties. thanks for your time. well, there there head there are there are star head teachers able to teachers who are able to transform schools where discipline an discipline has been an absolutely problem. absolutely massive problem. >> transform, bring in boundaries, bring in discipline , boundaries, bring in discipline, bnngin boundaries, bring in discipline, bring in rule and order and it transforms. you know the future of these students. >> after all, if you don't have order, you can't do the learning and it disrupts everything. for the want to learn the kids who do want to learn well, quite well. we're asking if conscription can. do. if army conscription can. do. you know the funny thing about army conscription, the model of schooling have now is schooling that we have now is almost the sort of almost based off the sort of prussian schools, the universal
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model of prussian education that was by bismarck for was developed by bismarck for the army. so it all links together because we're asking about army conscription is something is this something the country revisit it as the country should revisit it as the nato chief warns that the west must prepare for all out war with russia within 20 years, all that to come after your headunes. that to come after your headlines . tom. headlines. tom. >> emily, thank you very much. and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. the headlines are just after half past well, we after half past one. well, we start with some breaking news coming bodies four coming to us. the bodies of four people have found at people have been found at a property . norfolk property near norwich. norfolk police have launched an investigation following that discovery in costessey this morning. it's believed they were all known to each other. detectives say at this stage is being treated as an isolated incident. we will of course, bnng incident. we will of course, bring you more on that as we get it throughout the course of this afternoon , tata steel has afternoon, tata steel has confirmed up to 2800 jobs will
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be affected by its plan to close furnaces at the port talbot site, as the company transitions to a greener way of working. the cuts will be made over the next 18 months. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend industry . barry evans defend the industry. barry evans has been working at the steelworks for 28 years. >> obviously devastated and, um, let down by tata and the uk government. we do feel there's an opportunity to we understand we've got to go green , but a we've got to go green, but a transition should be over decades, not months . decades, not months. >> new ofsted guidance will allow school visits in england to be paused if staff show signs of distress . the announcement of distress. the announcement comes after a coroner called for change following the death of headteacher ruth perry. she took her own life in january last year after caversham primary school was downgraded from outstanding to inadequate . the outstanding to inadequate. the uk's health agency has declared
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>> it's 140 in the afternoon now . whilst most commentators expect issues such as immigration, the cost of living to be key priorities for voters at the next general election, new research carried out by former downing street pollsters at jlp partners, suggests that most voters in marginal seats would actually vote for a party that prioritises energy efficiency. >> so it seems like a relatively niche issue. although in the context of last year, perhaps not, and the context of january , not, and the context of january, the research which was commissioned by water pump manufacture for grundfos highlights that 77% of those surveyed want more government support on energy efficiency. >> well, they're not going to say we want less, are they ? say we want less, are they? well, what does this research tell us about the current state of energy security in the uk? and will this actually be a key issue it comes to winning issue when it comes to winning the next election ? the next election? >> well, to tell us more, is the uk country director for grundfos, williams and glyn
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grundfos, glyn williams and glyn isuppose grundfos, glyn williams and glyn i suppose energy efficiency really did enter the mainstream team last year. people suddenly realising that , uh, it's all realising that, uh, it's all very well and good to heat your home if it's all leaking out the window. not so good is a very good point, and actually only1 good point, and actually only 1 in 5 respondents from from the survey, from the poll, rather are confident that their energy they sorry their home is energy efficient as it can be which which suggests that there's some, uh um uh uh, room receptive to, uh, some advice regarding energy efficiency measures . measures. >> you know, for me, energy efficiency is around same or better output. um with less input for less cost, better output. um with less input for less cost , without input for less cost, without compromising comfort. that's how i would define it. i think this poll very much depends on what time of year you would ask people . people. >> uh, so, for example, if you asked in july when people don't really their heating on and really have their heating on and they don't too much about they don't worry too much about energy their energy efficiency and their bills go down, they
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bills do tend to go down, they probably that probably wouldn't say that energy efficiency was their top priority when came to voting, priority when it came to voting, but in the deepest, but perhaps in the deepest, darkest months of winter , for darkest months of winter, for they may have a different view when it's costing them hundreds of their home. of pounds to heat their home. >> absolutely . i mean, 60, >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, 60, 60% of the respondents expressed a likelihood to vote for a party. um that would, uh, support , uh, energy efficiency. support, uh, energy efficiency. energy efficiency in domestic and domestic properties, which , and domestic properties, which, which and 71% of all respondents say that the government isn't doing enough to highlight these energy efficiency issues. what what i'm not here to be, uh, challenging, uh, regarding policy or to articulate any political bias in any, any way what we're here to try and do our task here today is to prioritise some of the low cost issues and low cost measures, actually, that we can take to make our energy bills and our homes go down today and just quickly, glenn, don't have quickly, glenn, we don't have much the much time, but what are the easy, quick ways, quick wins in which we can increase energy
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efficiency ? well, replacing a efficiency? well, replacing a circulator pump, um, can offer a new optimised circulator can offer 80% saving in electrical energy consumption, which for a typical household can be, uh , typical household can be, uh, uh, as much as £110 per year. uh, balancing a system is another key measure that you can take. um, you know, the research suggests that only 10% of, uh, heating systems in the uk are adequately balanced . that means adequately balanced. that means having the right heat in the right place at the right time. a simple fix would be to have your plumber come and or heating engineer balance your engineer come. balance your system and that can offer a further 20% saving. um, in energy efficiency. well, we often replace we replace our white goods based on the end of use, end of life use of these kind of products . or maybe kind of products. or maybe because the product isn't as efficient as it once was. our circulator pumps tend to sit , circulator pumps tend to sit, um, under the floorboards, or maybe in a cupboard or in a boiler, and therefore, because they're out of mind, they're often given lower priority.
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actually, don't calculate enough. >> yeah. glenn williams >> yeah. well, glenn williams thank you so much uk replacing the secretary director of greenfields. that's all we have time for, i'm but thank time for, i'm afraid. but thank you much for joining time for, i'm afraid. but thank you much forjoining us you very much for joining us here on good afternoon britain. >> you very much >> well, thank you very much indeed. i guess i've indeed. for that i guess i've been using my air fryer. so i'm doing comes to doing my bit when it comes to energy not turning energy efficiency. not turning on oven so much . there you on that oven so much. there you go. lots of cash there, go. saving lots of cash there, hopefully. so i'm told. >> well, anyway, we turn now to our panel. the author and broadcaster turner broadcaster amy nicole turner joins and the political joins us and the political commentator alex armstrong does two. let's kick off on energy. it's a big, big topic today, not least because we're seeing some job losses in port talbot and south wales. what do you make of it? >> i mean, look, i think what the voters really want is their energy bills go down. energy bills to go down. >> actually they're >> i actually think they're probably about probably less concerned about efficiency as that their efficiency as it is that their bills falling and frankly, bills are falling and frankly, if keep on closing coal, coal if we keep on closing coal, coal plants everywhere across the country , what are the what do we expect? >> of course, bills are going to go up. and so if we can actually
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get the cost of official energy down, that be but down, that would be great. but we're have to build we're going to have to build a ton solar farms, which ton more solar farms, which again, you. again, have a look around you. it's sunny most days of it's not very sunny most days of the here. and we'll have to the year here. and we'll have to build farms, which we build more wind farms, which we know effective well. >> yeah. amy, you perhaps, >> yeah. amy, are you perhaps, uh, sceptical like i was to this this you ask this polling? i mean, if you ask people going people whether they're going to vote a party that vote for a party that prioritises household energy efficiency, you're prioritises household energy efficiejust you're prioritises household energy efficiejust that, you're)u're prioritises household energy efficiejust that, you're probably prioritises household energy efficietost that, you're probably prioritises household energy efficieto say, at, you're probably prioritises household energy efficieto say, yeah,]'re probably prioritises household energy efficieto say, yeah, go probably prioritises household energy efficieto say, yeah, go on)bably likely to say, yeah, go on then i will. likely to say, yeah, go on then i wii.. likely to say, yeah, go on then i wii think people have been >> i think people have been absolutely shocked by the way their energy bills have gone up. now case that 30% of now it's the case that 30% of households using than households are using more than 10% their income on energy, 10% of their income on energy, and the polling showed that most people want to pay around £500 per year , and there are some per year, and there are some homes that are paying that per month. >> yeah, there are, um, but this government is not the one to vote for. >> if you want energy efficiency, the amount of opportunities that they have missed rowing back on home, insulation, rowing back on onshore wind farms, reducing subsidies, some subsidies to
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renewable energy firms. what we needis renewable energy firms. what we need is energy security, because we saw well, that's the point. we saw our bills shoot up when we had shocks to the global market because we depend on global energy. if we can make that in house, the then our bills will go down. >> in the last ten years has become the second largest offshore wind farm hub in the world, second only to china. we've got 100 new licences in the north sea, and the ban on onshore wind farm is ending this yeah onshore wind farm is ending this year. that seems like a fairly pro supply side. former agenda it is, but the onshore wind has been delayed and we could have made up a good time. >> and also that would have made new jobs. what i'm hoping from this port talbot, which is a horrible everyone, horrible story for everyone, like jobs that been like all the jobs that have been lost, but the energy lost, it's awful. but the energy required to generate the new furnace be 100% renewable furnace could be 100% renewable and then will create jobs, because we're going to need more wind power. we're going to need more. >> amy, the thing is, is you look china, trying to
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look at china, we're trying to be green and efficient here. china popping coal china are popping up new coal factories, a dozen a week. and so whatever close thing so whatever. we close one thing here trying to put 12 more up. i mean, we're the ones who are losing out. >> we can't. >> we can't. >> we're putting our economies and people deficit and our people in a deficit and behind these people, these countries now at our own loss. what are we what are we offsetting? >> so from the industrial revolution to now, we have emitted more carbon than china. china only in the last china is only in the last whatever like ten years. so really now why can't we see this as an opportunity have as an opportunity to have a green industrial revolution? >> china have actually exceeded now entire history of now our our entire history of carbon emissions. i think i have to fact check that. i think that is true. >> that is it is true to take into account, the uk, of course, was the first country to have its revolution. its industrial revolution. >> think, do >> and i think, amy, you do raise interesting point raise an interesting point because had all the benefits because we had all the benefits of going through that industrial revolution, of having cheap , revolution, of having cheap, easy, plentiful coal and it does seem a bit mean spirited to not allow any other country to go through that process. but i
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think it's mean spirited for to us continue down road of us continue down this road of issuing gas issuing new oil and gas licenses, really if we licenses, when really if we embrace new great green embrace this new great green technology, create technology, it will create the amount jobs we've just amount of jobs that we've just lost at places like port talbot. >> i think fundamentally, energy efficiency or not, people efficiency or not, what people want energy security. that want is energy security. that clearly will be a big vote winner if a party puts forward a proper plan to ensure that we have that energy security, should we move on because we've all been issued a rather concerning warning . nato warns concerning warning. nato warns of all out war with russia in the next 20 years, and also talk of perhaps a conscript option being used . in this country. and being used. in this country. and we want to, looking at this story, talking about compulsory military service, would that be a good idea? would it not? i want to ask , are men in this want to ask, are men in this country up to it? absolutely. >> are we too soft? >> are we too soft? >> are we too soft? >> are men too wimpy ? >> are men too wimpy? >> are men too wimpy? >> i mean, just take a look around . look. i mean, look, people. >> should women be doing it to kids? >> i mean, i think everyone
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should be doing a little bit of national service. i do say so national service. if i do say so myself. i would would have myself. and i would i would have loved that, loved to have done that, actually, younger actually, as a younger person, i absolutely loved to. absolutely would have loved to. i join the i think you just join the scouts. well, i did, i did scouts. yeah, well, i did, i did the scouts. that's only the scouts. that's the only cadet same is it? it's cadet the same time, is it? it's not same. i mean, do think not the same. i mean, i do think getting out to like getting people out to like there's respect left for the there's no respect left for the local communities. just local communities. i mean, just just happening just look at what's happening is kids local shops kids running into local shops and them. i mean, so and ransacking them. i mean, so i really don't think there's any respect authorities. respect for the authorities. i don't think there's enough trust in actually, in the media, actually, for people uh, bought people to be to be, uh, bought into a new war and conscripted. i you'll rising on the i think you'll see rising on the streets. have to streets. you'll probably have to fight here before fight a war here before you could a war abroad. could fight a war abroad. frankly that's my opinion. >> people to sign up. >> just to get people to sign up. >> should we be concerned that there seems to be this, this, this of duty? uh would you, this lack of duty? uh would you, uh, if there was a if there uh, join if there was a if there wasn't draft, there was wasn't a draft, but if there was some grand national emergency? >> of course, in world war >> well, of course, in world war two, women conscripted in two, women were conscripted in the end, they did come the end, and they did come forward. so i think the circumstances . so you would circumstances. so you would i think if you had . to, you would
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think if you had. to, you would in the end, wouldn't you? let's look at somewhere which does have conscription like israel, it's really embraced. it's generally really embraced. i people who i mean, there are people who push that's push against it, but that's massively stigmatised and i think be the same here think it would be the same here if really, needed if we really, really needed people forward, which people to come forward, which hopefully we wouldn't, because we actually have very good recruitment we actually have very good recruit|forces . so i think even armed forces. so i think even the idea of conscription, which i would have thought you would be against because it's the ultimate on liberty. >> e we're w- e we're at war, >> well, look, if we're at war, i mean, i'd, i'd rather we get it conscripted than have a and have our have another country running our running our government and running our government and running but the running our country. but but the reality that if you do reality is, is that if you do start conscription now, do we have to start adding pronouns in there? i mean, there enough there? i mean, are there enough people can pass the people that that can pass the weight test? i don't know, i mean just, really, i think mean, ijust, i really, i think are still militant enough? are they still militant enough? >> yes. >> yes. >> enough, let's put it that >> fit enough, let's put it that way. we are way. i just don't think we are as a society. i mean, there's mcdonald's on every corner and obesity so obesity is out of control. so ban then ban mcdonald's first, then you'll to you'll have to you'll have to you'll have to nationalise quite lot of nationalise quite a lot of things. maybe the labour things. i think maybe the labour government have to
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government might have to bring up people military , up trans people in the military, because people served in because trans people served in the in world in the military in world war i, in world they will world war two, and they will continue serve. continue to serve. >> however, us , of >> however, in the us, of course, they were banned from serving trump, which serving by donald trump, which has repealed by has obviously been repealed by joe but think to say joe biden. but i think to say pronouns a barrier to pronouns would be a barrier to serving quite serving in the army is quite ludicrous . ludicrous. >> what is it? >> what is it? >> i think what alex means, and if i'm very generous to alex, is that, uh, perhaps there's too much focus on on wokery when it comes to recruitment. well, we have self—involved seen previously , have we not the sort previously, have we not the sort of. we need male of. oh, we don't need white male recruits anymore . recruits anymore. >> yeah, there was there >> well, yeah, there was there was whole thing. a was the whole thing. there was a whole thing. need to increase whole thing. we need to increase . was there was a big . well, it was there was a big thing the mod was thing that the, the mod was saying, we don't want white, white anymore. white young boys anymore. we want from other want people from other backgrounds, that's fine. backgrounds, and that's fine. if you increase diversity, backgrounds, and that's fine. if you don't increase diversity, backgrounds, and that's fine. if you don't inc]it]se diversity, backgrounds, and that's fine. if you don't inc]it a] diversity, backgrounds, and that's fine. if you don't inc]it a quota..ity, backgrounds, and that's fine. if you don't inc]it a quota. iy, but don't make it a quota. i mean, want people, need mean, we want people, we need people the military. people to go into the military. >> it's kind of anyone. >> it's kind of anyone. >> isn't it unkind >> it isn't isn't it is unkind that the whole that you bring up the whole pronoun because we've had pronoun thing, because we've had massive military. pronoun thing, because we've had masonly military. pronoun thing, because we've had masonly amy. military. it's only amy. >> change my point. >> it's not change my point. >> it's not change my point. >> only it's only since >> it's only it's only since 2000 that men were allowed
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2000 that gay men were allowed to be in the military in the uk. listen. >> so, amy, come on. >> you the >> when you were in the military, not about military, this is not about individualism, it's about collectivism. individualism, it's about collec'the m. individualism, it's about collec'the entire point. you individualism, it's about colleyourselfire point. you individualism, it's about colleyourself of point. you individualism, it's about colleyourself of yourt. you individualism, it's about colleyourself of your identity strip yourself of your identity so you can work as a team, not 90, so you can work as a team, not go, well, you just called me ma'am said, actually ma'am and said, i'm actually a sir. that will mean sir. i mean, that will mean you've people shooting sir. i mean, that will mean you'and people shooting sir. i mean, that will mean you'and go, eople shooting sir. i mean, that will mean you'and go, dude, shooting sir. i mean, that will mean you'and go, dude, ihooting sir. i mean, that will mean you'and go, dude, i just ng sir. i mean, that will mean you'and go, dude, i just you you and go, dude, i just you just call me sir in the battlefield. i mean, it's absolutely bonkers that your identity, your identity can be a barrier you even being barrier to you even being allowed considered for allowed to be considered for the. not saying the. listen, i'm not saying you shouldn't considered, but you shouldn't be considered, but you need you need conscription because you won't turning up. won't have anyone turning up. i hope will. i really hope the military will. i really hope the military will. i really hope have hope the military would have very, very sensible during very, very sensible hands during a listen, you might a war and say, listen, you might just away your just have to put away your pronouns for minutes while pronouns for ten minutes while we shooting at the we start shooting at the enemy across other of the well. >> sweden, that woolly liberal country thinking of country is thinking of more of this of thing. this type of thing. >> national service. they're kicking it off. they've been praised this nato official. praised by this nato official. so go. so sweden is so there you go. so sweden is steps ahead of us. sweden in actually has a huge arms export industry. >> they they co—produce nlaws as
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as we the brits do. it's been arming ukraine which is funny because you don't really think of as potentially of sweden as potentially the most aggressive of countries, but um, but but it certainly is a large issue. just finally on this, what likelihood is there really of war with russia ? a really of war with russia? a quick answer from the both of you , alex and amy, on, on on the you, alex and amy, on, on on the back.is you, alex and amy, on, on on the back. is this a scare story ? back. is this a scare story? >> well, look, i think nato wants to increase their funding. i think that's very clear. and i think we've seen mod sources coming um , grant coming out. we had, um, grant shapps the other day, obviously out more money. out canvassing for more money. so bit so i think there's a little bit and quickly, amy. >> i just that it >> well, i just hope that it helps our defence helps us address our defence budget see why need budget and maybe see why we need to adequately to increase it and adequately fund agreement fund some dangerous agreement there on the panel, potentially , there on the panel, potentially, uh, increases on uh, defence budget increases on the way. >> yes. >> yes. >> thank you to amy and alex. of course. they'll be back in the next hour, and we'll be back in port talbot. as tata steel confirms to those confirms plans to close those blast . with . us.
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blast furnaces. stay with. us. looks like things are heating up i >> -- >> boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news is . on gb news is. >> hello. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office, with the gb news forecast. much milder weekend as milder weather this weekend as it returns to wet and very windy storm isa has been named for later sunday and into monday, but it's going to be blustery all weekend. spells of rain will move through during saturday and more especially into sunday. and here's storm isa bringing some disruptive and damaging wind gusts during sunday night and into monday. but for the time being , it's actually relatively being, it's actually relatively calm out there. clear skies for the midlands, east anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the south of england with a frost in places, but elsewhere actually lose frost actually we lose the frost because we gain the atlantic cloud of rain. cloud and spells of rain. there'll still be some hill or mountain snow for scotland, but otherwise be largely otherwise it will be largely rain milder air moves in from rain as milder air moves in from the . and it's going to be a the west. and it's going to be a breezy day saturday, breezy day on saturday, especially north and the
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gb news away. >> good afternoon britain. >> good afternoon britain. >> it's 2:00 on friday the 19th of january. >> it is indeed steel on the rocks . tata steel's port talbot rocks. tata steel's port talbot plant confirms 2800 job losses as it closes blast furnaces in favour of eco friendly electric arc models , has net zero arc models, has net zero crippled the strategic industry ? crippled the strategic industry? >> no two state solution an israeli prime minister tells the united states that he will not
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agree to a two state solution once the war in gaza ends. we'll speak to an adviser to benjamin netanyahu about this topic. >> dangerous schools , the new >> dangerous schools, the new ofsted chief has warned. behaviour at some schools is so bad that staff are locking themselves in their classrooms dunng themselves in their classrooms during break times for their own safety. is there a discipline crisis in our schools? >> i think this energy story , >> i think this energy story, this tata steel story , this this tata steel story, this british domestic industry story is a micro cosm of everything that has been going wrong with this country . you've seen a slow this country. you've seen a slow and steady creep up of the price of industrial energy over the last, not just couple of years because of the ukraine war, but actually the last 20 years since 2004, the industry price of
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energy has quadrupled four times higher, even without the ukraine war, it had trebled . war, it had trebled. >> yeah. and crucially, to what extent is that due to the push for net zero, i think to some extent it's to do with that. >> but we also could have gone more gung ho towards renewable energy. for example , if we'd energy. for example, if we'd built a single nuclear reactor in the last 30 years, because that can provide a base load. >> yeah. instead we've gone for it. intermittent renewables such as the wind turbines. >> but we don't have enough of the solar panels . we don't we the solar panels. we don't we don't have storage . we don't don't have storage. we don't have power. nuclear have nuclear power. nuclear power has been dwindling for the last 30 years. not a single new reactor. we banned onshore wind. we've got councillors, even green campaigning green councillors campaigning against farms. every against solar farms. every single form of energy is being opposed by all these different parties. and what we have? parties. and what do we have? a dwindling supply of energy, a massive engorgement of these pnces massive engorgement of these prices and therefore the collapse of domestic industry? >> well, look at that. frustrate ation coming from harwood
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ation coming from tom harwood there. he's infuriated by the state of affairs. and of course , state of affairs. and of course, to think about all these people who are losing their jobs, their families is devastating . and families is devastating. and will they be reskilled? will they find new jobs in something similar? what will happen to them? compensated . them? they'll be compensated. and then what? and but then what? >> this the cost. >> but this is the cost. this is the cost people the real cost of people retaining campaigning against the real cost of people retainuclearnpaigning against the real cost of people retai nuclear powering against the real cost of people retai nuclear power stations, st new nuclear power stations, campaigning against those extra oil and gas fields, campaigning against shale gas extraction , against shale gas extraction, campaigning against solar farms, campaigning against solar farms, campaigning against solar farms, campaigning against wind farms even and hydroelectric power. if everyone against all everyone campaigns against all of that stuff, this is the consequence . consequence. >> well, there you go. rant over . headunes. . it's your headlines. >> tom, emily, thanks very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. the headlines just after 2:00. our top story today . after 2:00. our top story today. tata steel has confirmed that up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot site. the cuts
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will be made over the next 18 months as the company transition to a greener way of working . the to a greener way of working. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry . protect staff and defend the industry. barry evans has been working at the steelworks for 28 years. he's obviously devastated , um, let down by tata and the uk government . uk government. >> we do feel there's an opportunity to we understand we've got to go green , but a we've got to go green, but a transition should be over decades, not months . decades, not months. >> well, welsh welsh secretary for the unite union, peter hughes, told gb news that he thinks closing the furnace is mistake. >> a sad day for the steel industry and it's a sad day for wales. like you said, this plant's been producing steel for over 100 years. it's the lifeblood of the community around here. and to make 2500 people from here, it's people redundant from here, it's devastated. they close them because the decarbonise station, but don't need to but they don't need to decarbonise so this decarbonise until 2034. so this is a very rash decision. in fact , is a very rash decision. in fact i , is a very rash decision. in fact , i believe it's vandalism .
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, i believe it's vandalism. >> and speaking ahead of the announcement earlier, the prime minister said the government remains committed to british minister said the government remai making]itted to british minister said the government remai making the d to british minister said the government remai making the government steel making the government provided half £1 billion to support tata, the alternative, by the way, was that the entire plant would be closed and all 8000 jobs would be lost. >> but the government worked with the company, provided half a pounds. company is a billion pounds. the company is investing in order to investing more money in order to safeguard thousands of jobs, and that's something uk that's something that the uk government welsh government has done. the welsh government participate government did not participate in that, and that's because we cared about those jobs the cared about those jobs and the future steelmaking wales future of steelmaking in wales and uk . and the uk. >> well , as and the uk. >> well, as we've been hearing, the bodies of four people have been found at a property near norwich. norfolk police has launched an investigation following that discovery in costessey morning . it's costessey this morning. it's believed were all known to believed they were all known to each other. detectives say at this though, being this stage, though, it's being treated isolate incident . treated as an isolate incident. fujitsu's european boss has admitted the horizon it software used by the post office had errors and defects for almost 20
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years, addressing the inquiry into the scandal, paul patterson said the vast majority of the bugs had been shared with the post office . he also says he post office. he also says he didn't believe the tech firm knew at the time that sub postmasters were being prosecuted based on inaccurate data being provided . police say data being provided. police say there desperately concerned about a schoolgirl who went missing in southwest london. 16 year old julia scala was last seen leaving her home in mitcham on the 8th of january. detective chief superintendent claire kelland said finding the teenageris kelland said finding the teenager is a priority . teenager is a priority. >> we know this is completely out of character. she doesn't have a mobile phone, she hasn't got any access to money. it's absolutely freezing. we don't know if anyone supporting her, her family , her friends, her her family, her friends, her school, nobody has heard from her for 11 days now. so as time goes on, we become increased . goes on, we become increased. concerned for her safety . she's concerned for her safety. she's a school girl. she's a daughter. she's a sister, a really very worried about her. >> well, in other news, police
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are trying to trace a mother after a newborn baby was found in a shopping bag in east london. the child was wrapped in a towel and discovered by a dog walker in newham and is now being cared for in hospital. we understand the little girl was uninjured and is now safe and well. police say they're extremely concerned for the welfare of the baby's mother and they're appealing for help to find her. the uk's health agency has declared a national incident following a measles outbreak across the country . it's warning across the country. it's warning urgent action is needed to ensure that children are vaccinated and properly protected against the potentially deadly infection . potentially deadly infection. figures show there have been more than 200 confirmed cases since october. concerns have been raised about particular areas, including parts of london and the west midlands , as new and the west midlands, as new ofsted guidance will allow school visits in england to be paused. school visits in england to be paused . that's if staff show any paused. that's if staff show any signs of distress. the announcement comes after a coroner called for change following the death of
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headteacher ruth perry . she took headteacher ruth perry. she took her own life in january last year after caversham primary school was downgraded from outstanding to inadequate. the coroner said there was an almost complete absence of training for inspectors to look out for signs of distress in school leaders and the new weather warning has been issued with storm isiah set to hit the uk this weekend , it's to hit the uk this weekend, it's only the second time in a season that the storm that a storm with the letter i has been reached. forecasters say wind gusts of up to 80 miles an hour are expected , potentially causing power cuts and damage to buildings. the warnings come into effect from sunday evening . that's the sunday evening. that's the latest from gb news. for more, we're on tv or on digital radio and on your smart speaker, just say play gb news now, though, it's back to tom and . emily it's back to tom and. emily good afternoon britain. >> it's 2:08 and the steel giant
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tata has confirmed plans to close blast furnaces on its port talbot site in south wales. this could lead to the loss of up to 2500 jobs over the next 18 months, with 2800 jobs overall impacted. >> yes, the furnaces will transition to electric arc technology, which require fewer workers to maintain . now unite, workers to maintain. now unite, the uk's leading union, says they use everything in its armoury to defend these steel workers and the steel industry. they look like they're going to try as hard as they can to fight back against this decision. >> well, joining us now is economics and business editor of gb liam halligan . and gb news. liam halligan. and liam, been speaking to liam, you've been speaking to people on the about this people on the ground about this issue . what do they make of it? issue. what do they make of it? well it's a grim day here in port talbot . port talbot. >> tom and emily, britain's biggest steelworks . behind me biggest steelworks. behind me you can see the two blast furnaces . they've been making furnaces. they've been making steel here since before 1900. a lot of the techniques used to
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make high quality steel around the world were pioneered in the plant behind me, but as you say, we're moving to arc furnaces. technology they can only rely on recycled steel, scrap steel . we recycled steel, scrap steel. we can't use them to create what we call virgin steel from iron ore. the highest quality steel , and the highest quality steel, and will be the only country in the 620 will be the only country in the g20 of advanced industrial nafions g20 of advanced industrial nations across the world that will then lack that capability . will then lack that capability. it's a far cry from the 19th century and much of the 20th century, when british steel led the world. the atmosphere here is passionate, angry and deeply concerned. i've spoken with many steelworkers here outside the plant and trade union leaders too. earlier i spoke to peter hughes of the unite union. but i'm going to bring you now an interview with alan coombes, a former steel worker himself , interview with alan coombes, a former steel worker himself, and he is from the welsh branch of the community union. this is
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what he had to say to the local workforce . workforce. >> yes, you're talking about 2500 jobs are around that number of tata employees. but you can multiply that four times for the contractor community and the people downstream and upstream from the business who rely on it. >> and that's without going into the local community and into the shops and the local economy within port talbot . within port talbot. >> what do you think people here locally think of the so—called push for net zero? do they feel it's a moral imperative? >> i think a lot of people within the works understand it and understand we got to move in this direction. >> but kid yourself . this >> but don't kid yourself. this is nothing to do with net zero. this is purely the fact that tata are not prepared to support this works. they've they've over a period of time they've supported the european operation. we've had all our orders sent over to ireland and all the profit have been made in ireland. and we've had to take whatever dregs are left .
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whatever dregs are left. unfortunately, that means lack of investment and that's why we're in a state in port talbot. we are now trying to convey . we are now trying to convey. >> alan, steelmaking is a complex process to try to convey to gb news viewers and listeners the importance of producing virgin steel from iron ore, as opposed to steel in so—called arc furnaces , as well the steel arc furnaces, as well the steel in arc furnaces. >> we we'd have to rely on a lot of scrap supply at the moment, we don't know where we're going to get that scrap supply from, and there isn't actually the quality scrap that need to quality of scrap that we need to maintain the book, etc. to maintain the order book, etc. to maintain the order book, etc. to maintain the order book, etc. to maintain the order book into package in which is in trostre, in llanelli, and to maintain the order book into llanwern. we need to make virgin steel because that's the only quality we can make from a blast furnace type of operation , and we need type of operation, and we need that because why give away an order book? because that's what tata are doing at this point in time saying they just into time by saying they just go into electric arc. time by saying they just go into eleisoc arc. time by saying they just go into eleiso your uk loses even more of >> so your uk loses even more of its market share of the global steel . steel. >> yeah. spot on. and that means
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we'll be having more imports of a dirty steel from around the world. >> are there other ways to make virgin steel without using coke and coal? because that's what a lot of environmentalists say. the blast furnaces that we're looking at here in port talbot , looking at here in port talbot, they need coking coal. and that means of emissions. means lots of carbon emissions. >> there are other >> yeah, there are other opportunities. are other opportunities. there are other technologies that are developed . technologies that are developed. uh, they're not as well developed , but they are out developed, but they are out there and they can be used. you've got direct reduction furnaces, you've got open bath furnaces, you've got open bath furnaces . you've got, know , furnaces. you've got, you know, plenty of ways of doing it . but plenty of ways of doing it. but whenever we brought it up to tata , even if the money's there, tata, even if the money's there, i don't think they're interested in they what they want in doing it. they what they want to do bring slab and coil to do is bring slab and coil from halfway around the world in the dirtiest, most polluted in steel industries in the world and bring that to port talbot, which of course leads to huge carbon emissions. >> anyway, they're not on >> anyway, they're just not on our doorstep. >> no, it's just it's one of them. not in my backyard things, i'm afraid. and uh, it's
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i'm afraid. and it's, uh, it's what you get rid of what happens if you get rid of steel locally supplement steel jobs locally to supplement steel jobs locally to supplement steel jobs locally to supplement steel jobs in india or turkey or wherever these products are going to come from. and by the way , they haven't even secured way, they haven't even secured their markets yet. they don't even know if they can get all that they need. that's giving even know if they can get all that tmore eed. that's giving even know if they can get all that tmore eed. market giving even know if they can get all that tmore eed. market share away more of the market share for final question, alan, to what extent do you think that rishi sunak is responsible ? rishi sunak is responsible? >> first minister mark drakeford, he's saying that he's asked to speak to rishi sunak by phone today. but the prime minister apparently has said i don't have time to take your call . call. >> well, i'm hearing about the 500 million that, uh, that the uk government have put into this project to, to, uh, make the electric arc furnaces. and at the end of the day , what i'm the end of the day, what i'm heanng the end of the day, what i'm hearing also that what they've actually said is a guarantee of this money is you've got to shut the blast furnaces. it's absolute disgraceful behaviour. they haven't got a clue about the industry . they haven't got the industry. they haven't got a clue about what they're actually saying. and they i'm going to
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clue the impact will clue about the impact this will have the community. well, if have on the community. well, if the conservatives are going to contest the next general election in tom and emily, in any meaningful way, they need to , they are going to need to retain some of these red wall seats. >> south wales port talbot it is most definitely in the red wall. the fact that this is happening, the fact that the government's given £500 million of taxpayers money to help tata close down these blast furnaces is not going down well here at all. and thatis going down well here at all. and that is a massive under exaggeration of the strength of feeling here. a real sense of betrayal , of despair feeling here. a real sense of betrayal, of despair and anger here in port talbot, a bad day for british industry . for british industry. >> liam halligan. thank you so much for bringing us that analysis and those voices on the ground . crucially, at port ground. crucially, at port talbot, £500 million, half a billion and then 2500 job losses
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i >> -- >> and as the union chaps said, their representative not chap said, they're um, this is not just going to have an impact on those people who lose their jobs directly , but also then the directly, but also then the supply chain and then also the local economy , too. a big hit to local economy, too. a big hit to the wider community, to the wider economy and the local society. >> of course , and no doubt >> of course, and no doubt political implications as well. let's turn to some of that wider political reaction, because earlier today, when the prime minister's official spokesman was if the job losses were was asked if the job losses were because of the prime minister's net zero target, the spokesman said this no broadly , the said this no broadly, the government is committed to taking the long time decisions to ensure a sustainable and competitive future for the uk . competitive future for the uk. >> that includes supporting the uk steel industry as it transitions to ensure that it remains competitive and sustainable for the future . whom sustainable for the future. whom do you buy that convinced? well, so convinced with that one. >> let's speak with gb news political editor christopher hope , who was speaking earlier hope, who was speaking earlier to the prime minister's official
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spokesman . and christopher, spokesman. and christopher, did you find it convincing that statement that this is nothing at all to do with net zero? >> thanks, tom. thanks, emily. yeah, that was my question, actually, to the pm's spokesman. i knew that, um, viewers will be thinking this is this linked to this net zero target the government has got for itself by 2050? there's no question that closing this, this furnace and opening these two new the arc furnaces will save around 1.5% cut in overall carbon emissions. so clearly it will help the government get to 2050. the government get to 2050. the government says that had it not acted, it would lose 8000 jobs. as it is, it's only it's only. although it's a heck of a lot of jobs, 2500, which is less than might have gone had the government not act acted. they put up half, half £1 billion of our money to add to tata's overall over £1 billion investment to get these new arc furnaces up and running. um, it is difficult. it's worrying, isn't it, to hear liam halligan
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report there from the site in port talbot that mr sunak won't return the phone calls of the welsh first minister and there is some politics in play here and it is a worry. i think, no question. and we're seeing unions upset about it. and as , unions upset about it. and as, as the interviewer, interviewee told liam there, it's not just the direct jobs going, it's the indirect supplier jobs that will have a problem in finding orders to replace the loss of port talbot and tata . talbot and tata. >> well, christopher hope, thank you so much for being there in downing street, asking those crucial questions that the audience gb really, audience of gb news really, really does want know the really does want to know the answers . christopher hope, answers to. christopher hope, our there. answers to. christopher hope, ourwhy there. answers to. christopher hope, ourwhy do there. answers to. christopher hope, ourwhy do you there. answers to. christopher hope, ourwhy do you thinkere. answers to. christopher hope, ourwhy do you think the prime >> why do you think the prime minister taken uh, minister hasn't taken this, uh, phone minister hasn't taken this, uh, phc probably he thinks >> probably because he thinks it's quite it's going to be quite political. mark political. i mean, mark drakeford is paid up drakeford is a is a paid up labour member. is it going labour party member. is it going to that something to offer all that much something like happens. yeah, but like this happens. yeah, but what's going say . what's he going to say. >> don't know. maybe >> well i don't know. maybe a conversation good conversation would be a good step, know. anyway step, i don't know. anyway moving on. a serial sex offender who used online dating sites to blackmail and abuse dozens of
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women children , has women and children, has been jailed years. jailed for 24 years. >> burns coerced one of >> anthony burns coerced one of his victims to abuse her own eight year old daughter whilst he watched it over the internet. oh well , we're he watched it over the internet. oh well, we're joined by our home and security editor mark white. for more details on this case. >> yeah, in a week of really disturbing news, another absolutely horrific case of this man, a prolific sex offender using the internet met and someone who was actually tutored in the use of blackmail techniques to try to get as much , uh, in the way of these illicit and, uh, graphic videos and pictures from his victims. he was schooled by abdul ethel, who was one of the worst offenders ever investigated by by the national crime agency . by the national crime agency. but this man himself, anthony barnes, he is someone who had,
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uh, 35 separate victims. it actually , he tried to make actually, he tried to make contact with some 600 women, uh, from all around the globe. and it wasn't just these women that he attempted to blackmail into sending videos and pictures. it was also their children. you mentioned in the introduction there, one woman in the united states was coerced into to abusing her own eight year old daughter while he watched on the internet. we spoke to another victim, sophie goodall. she was waived her right to anonymity as she wanted to talk about just how utterly horrific and very terrifying dealing with this serial sex offender was when i blocked him. >> he kept coming back on different numbers. then he sent me , uh, screenshots of my me, uh, screenshots of my parents on facebook , me on
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parents on facebook, me on facebook , um, other social media facebook, um, other social media friends and family as well. and that was really scary because all he had of me was my first name. and the photo on my whatsapp. i hadn't shared anything with we anything with him. we just exchanged a flirty chat. then the final time i had a conversation with him, he started sending me very sexual. really disgusting imagery and then accused me of being racist for not reciprocating . for not reciprocating. >> so then i called the police . >> so then i called the police. >> so then i called the police. >> it's quite terrifying because it doesn't matter that it was only a short amount of time, it affected me for such a long time because i had no idea that he wasn't like in the park , outside wasn't like in the park, outside my house or at the bus stop, which i could see from my windows , you know, and i didn't. windows, you know, and i didn't. >> i didn't know what he really looked like. >> he could be some huge built quy- >> he could be some huge built guy. he could be some nothing. it just the anonymity of him. when he knew everything about me
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and he knew everyone, i knew . um and he knew everyone, i knew. um that's what i found terrifying . that's what i found terrifying. >> the judge in this case described anthony barnes as a manipulative man, arrogant, with a deep seated cruel streak, and anthony barnes did not cooperate at all. he looked down as he was given that 24 year jail terms . given that 24 year jail terms. we spoke also to robert slater from the national crime agency, the senior investigating officer, about the type of manipulative individual that andrew barnes was . andrew barnes was. >> be devious individual who's burns. >> he uses multiple personas to try and convince them that he was a safe individual to deal with, or they would be. >> he would introduce photographers, he would introduce other females, all of which were him . but it was all which were him. but it was all a ruse to just convince the individual that he was a safe pair of hands and he could be trusted . trusted. >> f“- p- trusted. >> he built that trust >> and once he built that trust up and the, the witnesses, um ,
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up and the, the witnesses, um, gave, gave their imagery to him. he just used that as an opportunity to blackmail them for further, more sexually depraved material . depraved material. >> well , as we depraved material. >> well, as we said, depraved material. >> well , as we said, anthony >> well, as we said, anthony barnes did not cooperate at all with the police. >> in fact , during his >> in fact, during his interviews in custody, it was that no comment procedure that he adopted. here's a brief look at how he behaved in police custody . custody. >> he's a changed the email or gmail address to anthony burns , gmail address to anthony burns, 84 at gmail.com . 84 at gmail.com. >> com is that your gmail account? anthony . did you account? anthony. did you originally obtain that gmail address . can originally obtain that gmail address. can you explain originally obtain that gmail address . can you explain why address. can you explain why somebody else then might use a gmail address in your name .
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gmail address in your name. >> so anthony barnes, as i say, remained impassive , looking down remained impassive, looking down at the floor as he was sentenced to 24 years in jail for the abuse of 39 separate women and children in, uh, over a three year period . and as he year period. and as he blackmailed them on the internet to send out very explicit and disturbing pictures and videos of themselves . of themselves. >> well, thank you very much indeed for bringing us that mark white, a homo security editor, every woman's absolute nightmare , disgusting, despicable crime crimes are good to see him behind bars. that's all i have to say on that one. well coming up, we will be talking about the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, who has told the united states that he is opposed to the establishment of a palestinian state. even once the war in gaza ends. >> yes, we'll speak with an adviser to the israeli prime minister next. this is gb news,
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monday to thursdays from six till 930. >> it's 228. uh, the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has told the united states that he is opposed to the establishment of a palestinian state once the war in gaza ends . state once the war in gaza ends. >> he also told a news conference that he'll press on
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with israeli offensive in with the israeli offensive in gaza until complete victory , and gaza until complete victory, and warned that it could take many more months. yes, israel's allies, including the uk and the us , have long urged for the us, have long urged for the revival a state solution revival of a two state solution in which a future palestinian state would live side by side with israel . well, let's speak with israel. well, let's speak now with ophir. fulk, who is an adviser to the prime minister of israel . adviser to the prime minister of israel. ophir, thank you so much for your time this afternoon from hinckley. is this an admission ? often. is this, uh , admission? often. is this, uh, statement from benjamin netanyahu not just playing into the hands of the palestinian activists who've said all along that israel doesn't want a two state solution, who've said all along that israel is simply trying to flatten gaza ? yeah trying to flatten gaza? yeah >> thank you for having me here. >> thank you for having me here. >> uh, so again, we've been very consistent for over 30 years about this. um, the prime minister has said that, uh , the minister has said that, uh, the palestinians don't really or the
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palestinians don't really or the palestinian leadership are not interested in having a two state solution . they have a problem solution. they have a problem with the israeli state and every territory that we have relinquished has has become a terror base . and right now we terror base. and right now we are fully focussed on destroying hamas . demilitarising gaza and hamas. demilitarising gaza and then gaza can be rebuilt once a de—radicalization process begins there. we've been very clear about that now . uh, sadly about that now. uh, sadly enough, the palestinian leadership until this day has not been able to denounce the october 7th atrocities. over 1200 israelis were murdered, women were raped , children were women were raped, children were beheaded , babies were burnt beheaded, babies were burnt alive . and the palestinian alive. and the palestinian authority leaders have yet to denounce that atrocity . so denounce that atrocity. so anybody who is talking about a palestinian state, uh, with that , uh, that authority , that's,
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, uh, that authority, that's, uh, that's ludicrous. that's not going to happen . and frankly, going to happen. and frankly, the israeli people , over 75% of the israeli people, over 75% of the israeli people, over 75% of the israeli people oppose the palestinian state isn't the problem here, though, that that one of the reasons why so many people in the west want to support israel is israel takes the higher ground in in these discussions and has done historically not least at those talks . talks. >> uh, in the united states at the turn of the millennium, israel was supporting a palestinian state. the palestinians , uh, fell apart and palestinians, uh, fell apart and the process did not work. but one of the reasons why people have intrinsic sympathy with israel , i have intrinsic sympathy with israel, i believe, is that it is this, this beacon of democracy and liberalism. and very often takes that higher ground. have you not just ceded that higher ground, saying, oh, the palestinians don't want two states, therefore we're not going to try either. surely you can take the higher ground here.
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mm >> israel israel has always taken the higher ground. we seek peace with anybody who truly wants peace with us. in 47, israel was accepted. the partition plan. every chance that there was a chance for peace. that there was a chance for peace . uh, we had our hands peace. uh, we had our hands stretch out for peace. we have six peace agreements with, uh, with, uh, with, uh, arab countries. prime minister netanyahu forged four peace agreements with arab countries in recent years . we want peace in recent years. we want peace with anybody who wants to have true, genuine peace with israel. unfortunately the palestinian authority and their leadership do not want peace with israel. they do not want a two state solution. they want a final solution. they want a final solution. and that's not going to happen. israel will defend itself . israel will have itself. israel will have defendable borders. israel will destroy hamas. that carried out the worst atrocity against the jewish people since the holocaust. and the idf is doing that as we speak. right now. the idf, the palestinian authority
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denies that they have the same ethnic cleansing agenda that hamas clearly do . hamas clearly do. >> but i'm afraid that's what we all we have time for a fair fulk. thank you so much for putting across your case advisor to the prime minister of israel. >> yes, going to get some >> yes, we're going to get some breaking news with breaking royal news with your headunes. breaking royal news with your headlines . tom headlines. tom >> emily, thank you very much. and good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. the headlines at just after 2:30. well the neighbour of the father and son who were found dead in skegness, has told gb news they looked like a happy family . two year old bronson family. two year old bronson battersby was found next to the body of his dad kenneth, who suffered a fatal heart attack . suffered a fatal heart attack. they were last seen alive on boxing day by sherry ross in her first television interview. she's told gb news she wasn't aware of anything suspicious . aware of anything suspicious. >> the last time i saw the boys
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was the 26th, which was boxing day. >> um, a little bit concerned because we hadn't seen him for a number of days, really. so i went round, we knocked on the windows, knocked on the doors and eventually got an answer. >> little bronson was there waving at me from the door, mouth full of pink wafers. bless him. and kenny was just kenny, you know, just running about frantically after the little one. he was two, so. but yeah, they were happy it was boxing day. lovely christmas . day. lovely christmas. >> a serial sex offender who used online dating sites to blackmail and abuse dozens of women and children, has been jailed for 24 years, 39 year old anthony burns ordered unsuspecting victims to perform sexual acts under threat of exposing them to friends and family . although he was family. although he was convicted of abusing 35 women and girls work is also ongoing by international law enforcement agencies to identify any further victims . between a 2018 and
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victims. between a 2018 and 2021, burns attempted to contact more than 600 people around the world with the intention of exploiting them. his victims were aged . between 8 and 54. were aged. between 8 and 54. tata steel has confirmed. up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plans to close furnaces at the port talbot site in wales. it's as the company transitions to a greener way of working. the cuts will be made over the next 18 months. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry . and in some defend the industry. and in some other breaking news, prince harry has withdrawn his libel case against the mail on sunday. it comes on the day he was due to hand over relevant documents, but his lawyers have now filed a nofice but his lawyers have now filed a notice . he was notice of discontinuance. he was trying to sue the mail on sunday for its reporting of his dispute with the home office over his security it's and security arrangement. it's and you can get more on all of those stories and many more by visiting our website, gbnews.com
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i >> -- >> well, as we've been hearing , >> well, as we've been hearing, the duke of sussex has withdrawn his libel claim against associated newspapers, the publishers of the mail on sunday, a spokesperson for the company said let's join cameron walker now. our royal correspondent . correspondent. >> yeah, tom, it looks like prince harry has given up his legal fight with this case, beanng legal fight with this case, bearing in mind he has a number of civil cases going through the high court london at the high court in london at the moment. to do moment. but this is all to do with article written in the with an article written in the mail on sunday about prince harry's separate claim against his home office, about his home office security arrangements. now, the mail on sunday was claiming that prince harry was essentially trying to mislead the public and put him in a much more positive light by using his pr team or instructing his pr team to spin the narrative. now
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prince harry then sued associated newspapers. that's the publisher of the mail on sunday for libel . the mail sunday for libel. the mail reports bearing in mind that is the paper in question , that the paper in question, that harry's lawyers were so confident that it was a done deal that they asked for judge for it not to go to a full trial . but last month, the judge said that there was a there could be a way that associated newspapers could indeed have some evidence that they could bring to trial. so essentially , today, prince so essentially, today, prince harry's lawyers were meant to be handing over some documents to be used as part of this civil trial, and instead they have decided to withdraw this claim all together at the time that they filed for this lawsuit, the duke's lawyers said that it alleges that it's an attack on prince harry's honesty and integrity, and would undermine his charity work and efforts to tackle misinformation online.
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associated newspapers always contested that claim , arguing contested that claim, arguing that the article expressed honest opinion and did not cause serious harm to harry's reputation . what happens now? reputation. what happens now? well prince harry could have a hefty legal bill having to pay associated newspapers a reported £250,000 worth of court costs or legal fees. plus, of course, his own lawyers fees, which would take the total bill to around £750,000. so not a good day for prince harry. >> no, this could all be quite, quite costly if those figures are are correct. but of course he did have a win. not too long ago when it came to this type of action. >> yeah , he certainly did. he >> yeah, he certainly did. he was suing mirror group newspapers over alleged unlawful information gathering. he was one of a number of claimants in that case. and the judge ruled in that case that there was substantial initial phone hacking 33 articles written over around a 20 year period to do
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with prince harry, prince harry alleged that information was obtained via unlawful means. the judge agreed with him to some extent on at least some of those articles, which means he is entitled to some damages on that case. there's three other cases still going through the high courts to deal with prince harry. he is suing the publishers of the sun newspaper for unlawful information for alleged unlawful information gathering, as well as associated newspapers, publisher of the mail and mail on sunday. again for alleged unlawful information gathering. those two newspaper groups deny all the allegations made against them. he's also got a separate case against the british government. home british government. the home office, decision to office, over their decision to not provide him with the same degree of police protection when he's when he decided he's in the uk. when he decided to as a working member to step back as a working member of family. so the of the royal family. so the fight certainly not over for all of those cases. with his of those cases. but with his libel the mail on libel case against the mail on sunday, that is at an end. >> one case to juggle. but >> one fewer case to juggle. but still plenty. plenty left. cameron walker, thank you so much for bringing us the very
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latest there. >> interesting isn't it? quite a big legal bill. he'll have to pay, big legal bill. he'll have to pay, but there you go. coming up. themselves up. teachers locking themselves in classrooms. the safety at lunchtime has discipline gone out of the window in uk schools it would appear as much. anyway, discussing that with our panel after
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sunday mornings from 930 on. >> right it is . 243 in the >> right it is. 243 in the afternoon and we're asking has discipline gone out of the window in uk schools ? we're window in uk schools? we're heanng window in uk schools? we're hearing new chief of hearing from the new chief of ofsted about how some teachers in some schools are essentially blockading themselves in the classroom rooms to avoid naughty students. not good. it sounds absurd, but is this the reality of our schools? joining us to discuss this is the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner and the political commentator alex armstrong. um i'm hoping, amy, that this isn't represents of schools up and down the country. but even if there's one school where teachers are hiding in classrooms, i mean , that's in classrooms, i mean, that's bad enough. really, isn't it? >> yeah, but i think we need to look at this as a symptom of a bigger problem. i've done some research on mental health with children in five, children in every class of 30 have a mental health problem . we have massive health problem. we have massive waiting lists of children not getting the help that they really, really need, particularly after two years of covid with their lives completely disrupted , their
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completely disrupted, their school not on. they're not being able to socialise in the way they needed to and i think we're reaping the rewards of that now and not in a good way. so we want about discipline in want to talk about discipline in schools . we need help kids, schools. we need to help kids, we give them some. we we need to give them some. we need that know need to have children that know that towards that they're heading towards opportunities . yeah. at the opportunities. yeah. at the moment not to look moment there's not much to look forward to pupils are forward to if pupils are suffering with their mental health, they're health, perhaps they're behaviour hit . behaviour might take a hit. >> we do hear about >> sure. but we do hear about strict head teachers turning around schools and instilling discipline, order and it having a fantastic impact on those student outcomes . student outcomes. >> i don't know, i think that always i'd prefer the carrot over the stick approach. i think that has is more effective . that has is more effective. >> i'm not talking about corporal punishment. >> bring it back. bring the stick back. >> you want to bring the literal sticalthough some will say that >> although some i will say that some at home have written some of you at home have written in to that effect. the sensible ones the cage. are ones bring back the cage. are you arguing for this? you genuinely arguing for this? >> interesting point. >> it's an interesting point. >> it's an interesting point. >> look, it's very >> yeah, well, look, it's very
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abundantly clear kids are abundantly clear the kids are out control school , right? out of control at school, right? i went a state school i mean, i went to a state school and bad.then i mean, i went to a state school and bad. then it was and it was bad. then it was going so i can going back a while ago, so i can only how much worse it only imagine how much worse it is. well, yeah. good. 15, 20 years but i could only years ago. but i could only imagine much worse is imagine how much worse it is now. 37% of now. so, you know, 37% of teachers reporting abuse, teachers are reporting abuse, physical at least once a physical abuse, at least once a quarter. that's once a time. sorry, that is pretty once a quarter business has on that is pretty severe in my opinion . pretty severe in my opinion. children are abusing adults in the classroom. they've got no control. there's no way to discipline no way control. there's no way to disdefend no way control. there's no way to disdefend themselves no way control. there's no way to disdefend themselves becausey to defend themselves because they'll who they'll be the ones who have been put prison for been then put in prison for child so i mean, what child abuse. so i mean, what what do teachers do? they can't control the classroom. there's no see this no discipline. and we see this on replicated on on the streets, replicated on on with petty across with crime. petty crime across britain. there britain. yeah amy, there is a bit of power imbalance bit of a power imbalance sometimes classrooms. sometimes in classrooms. >> the students >> and i mean, the students having more power than the teachers . teachers. >> yeah, but kids are lashing out. not in a vacuum, out. but that's not in a vacuum, is need to look at why is it? we need to look at why this is happening. why are kids so i think so frustrated? and i think probably the moment there's so frustrated? and i think proimuch the moment there's so frustrated? and i think proimuch the nforward:here's not much to look forward to. when kid, you're living
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when you're a kid, you're living in a society with not much going on for you. >> excuse. g excuse. doesn't >> also an excuse. no doesn't give an excuse. give doesn't give you an excuse. >> doesn't give you an >> it it doesn't give you an excuse. and like to analyse it. it's to justify i'm it's not to justify it, but i'm just there's to be just saying there's going to be a lot more to it than they're simply lashing at end of it. >> i think what you're saying is wrong, i think we also wrong, amy, but i think we also need take at the need to take a look at the parents well. i mean, the parents as well. i mean, the i mean, there's parents who go into their child into school for their child having a detention and scream and teachers. what and shout at teachers. what is the my the deterrence like? i'll get my mum get my dad here. mum here. i'll get my dad here. this bonkers. mum here. i'll get my dad here. this ihavers. mum here. i'll get my dad here. this ihave you child. >> you have you have a child. not make too personal, but not to make it too personal, but just talking theoretically. if you heard that your child had been at been incredibly naughty at school something school and had done something wrong, his side wrong, would you take his side or side? because or the teacher's side? because teachers need to know that they have do you know, have authority. do you know, i agree with you that the contract between the parent the teacher. >> i think that social contract has broken down. don't think has broken down. i don't think parents respect parents have the same respect they teachers , but i they had for teachers, but i think is emphasised by think that that is emphasised by the government not supporting the government not supporting the strikes making the teaching strikes for making teachers during covid. teachers the enemy during covid. it was, oh, it's the teaching unions. there's a of blame
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unions. there's a lot of blame placed people placed on teachers. people aren't supporting and teaching. placed on teachers. people aren't saren't:ing and teaching. placed on teachers. people aren't saren't supporting]ching. people aren't supporting teachers in the way they used to. look at somewhere to. if you look at somewhere with a great teaching like finland, they finland, where they have a master's their master's degree for all their teachers, it's a really respected profession. the relationship parents relationship between parents and teachers better teachers is much, much better because there is a mutual respect there. i think we're losing that . we're losing that. losing that. we're losing that. we i think a lot of people think they can do the jobs of teachers now, and they don't see it as a special speciality that it is. so we need to respect teachers. >> i agree with a lot of people look down their nose at teachers. say, you know, teachers. they say, you know, oh, can't, do you teach? oh, if you can't, do you teach? well, that's actually not true at some teachers are at all. some of our teachers are the admirable people our the most admirable people in our society. i say society. i would say unfair. i think becoming increasingly think it's becoming increasingly difficult lot of teachers. difficult for a lot of teachers. >> is a fantastic example >> there is a fantastic example of a school in north london that's turned around that's turned this around a free school. the headmistress is supposedly dubbed the strictest headmistress. talking headmistress. are you talking about birbalsingh? can't about birbalsingh? i can't remember it. remember the name of it. >> birbalsingh. remember the name of it. >> katharine birbalsingh. remember the name of it. >> katharine birbalsingh . yes, >> katharine birbalsingh. yes, i think michaela academy. >> example of how? >> yes, but example of how? >> yes, but example of how? >> like stripping out the
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wokeness. rid of flags. wokeness. get rid of the flags. get all that nonsense and get rid of all that nonsense and teach . well, one minute they've teach. well, one minute they've got flag and it's the got one flag and it's the british one. exactly >> week, just this week. >> this week, just this week. she's taken court. she's been taken to court. >> bunch of woke on a >> yes, by a bunch of woke on a bunch of woke nonsense. so let's just you strip away just be clear. you strip away all that nonsense. well all of that nonsense. well i think great. and think think that's great. and i think that's more in that's what we need more in schools. because don't schools. because if you don't teach discipline and authority at it just gets at a young age, it just gets replicated even further the replicated even further into the adults do adults and then gangs. what do you is, the you think the authority is, the gang? come gang? amy, you wanted to come back point? back on that point? >> no, ijust back on that point? >> no, i just think it's important to stress that. why katharine been katharine birbalsingh has been in week is in the papers this week is because banned muslim because she banned muslim children all children from praying at all prayer . prayer. >> banned all religion from >> she banned all religion from a an issue. a bit of an issue. >> i do think it is. >> i do think it is. >> i do think it is. >> i think i think again, fairness. >> you like freedom. religious freedom surely a very freedom is surely a very important. >> and place for >> there's a time and place for it. surely there's church, it. surely there's a church, there's you go and there's a mosque. you can go and pray spare time. pray in your spare time. you know, the know, this is this is the problem we've become so accommodating everything. problem we've become so accomnnoating everything. problem we've become so accomnnoating teachthing. problem we've become so accomn no ating teach other there's no time to teach other than anything oh, this than anything about, oh, this person identity person likes that identity politics, this. so we need to get principles. politics, this. so we need to get of principles. politics, this. so we need to get of course principles. politics, this. so we need to
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get of course thisrinciples. politics, this. so we need to get of course thisrincijthe >> of course this is in the courts at the moment. so we have to be a little careful. but to be a little bit careful. but it much more it does sound much more complicated child complicated than, oh, a child wanted to pray. there was a lot going playground. going on in the playground. according legal according to their legal counsel. yes, more to that counsel. so yes, more to that story than meets the eye. um, shall we move on, shall we? because we have more to talk about and we want to talk about. now, this is something that people have writing people have been writing in about, actually, britain's dental health crisis . hundreds dental health crisis. hundreds of children in hospital because of children in hospital because of their bad teeth . is there of their bad teeth. is there some hysteria about this or is it really are we a nation of children with awful , awful teeth? >> yeah, this is this is a symptom of dentists disappearing off of high streets. we've actually i can't exactly remember what the figure is, but it's a high figure it's a pretty high figure and it's a pretty high figure and it's every less it's increasing every year. less and to gp, uh, free and less access to gp, uh, free dentist, dentistry essentially. so that's making that much harder . and so that's making that much harder. and it's particularly bad, actually, in rural areas, much better in places like london been slightly much better in places like londo up, been slightly much better in places like londo up, however. yeen slightly much better in places like londo up, however. um,slightly much better in places like londo up, however. um, so;htly much better in places like londo up, however. um, so ,]tly much better in places like londo up, however. um, so , so going up, however. um, so, so there a problem here there is a problem here generally the sector about generally in the sector about getting dentists.
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>> however, wouldn't to >> however, you wouldn't need to go dentist if you had go to a dentist if you had preventative teeth cleaning as standard , right? standard, right? >> so you mean teachers brushing your teeth for you, which is totally insane. >> to this is this is a this >> due to this is this is a this whole thing of calling it nanny state. >> do you know something? do you know, do you know something that was called state? gone was called nanny state? gone mad? was universal free education. that was called nanny state gone mad when it was first introduced? >> there's a big difference between teaching young people and brushing teeth. and then brushing their teeth. >> brush their teeth. >> brush your teeth. 13 years old, teeth cleaning. old, i mean, teeth cleaning. >> know that decay >> do you know that tooth decay is most reason that a is the most common reason that a child up hospital child will end up in in hospital at the and we can do at the moment, and we can do something help those children something to help those children and prevent it? >> however, better to >> however, a lot better ways to do brush your do it than a teacher. brush your teeth for you. okay >> me, tell me. >> tell me, tell me. >> tell me, tell me. >> admissions it not >> admissions is it not particularly? >> unsum prising that >> perhaps unsum prising that dentist is the main reason for admission for children going to hospital. would we expect heart disease or leukaemia or. i don't
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know, obesity to be a larger issue? surely it's one of the most common things you would experience , tom, and perhaps experience, tom, and perhaps what is most indicative of this is that actual measured tooth decay decay has fallen by 7% in the last ten years, but hospital admissions have risen. why the last government banned dentists from using general anaesthetic . from using general anaesthetic. so all of these things have to happenin so all of these things have to happen in hospitals rather than dentist practices? >> absolutely no reason earth >> absolutely no reason on earth that a child with their first teeth, not their adult teeth, should be suffering from tooth decay. >> but you ignore it. it's been on the decline. >> but that doesn't matter to me. the fact that it's happening at this is so at all in this country is so shocking me. shocking to me. >> why do you doubt to the conclusion therefore, conclusion that therefore, because problem, because we have this problem, therefore, and therefore, the schools and the teachers add this to teachers need to add this to their list teachers need to add this to theirlist responsibilities? their list of responsibilities? why do you say why are you why do you not say l, why are you why do you not say i, amy, am a fantastic parent and i make sure that my child brushes his teeth and so should every other parent. >> actually, there's another
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thing at play is the sugar thing at play here is the sugar in diets, children are in our diets, children are suffering point suffering more with the point about because. because about the but because. because well, what i was saying back to thatis well, what i was saying back to that is parents aren't doing it for whatever reason . we could go for whatever reason. we could go we go into that. we could we could go into that. we could go but i would go into that. but i would rather help first and then help the children first and then campaign parents campaign for the parents afterwards, because the fact is that children's teeth are suffering, their health is suffering, their health is suffering something suffering. we can do something about quite about it that's really quite cost and would save cost effective and would save the would, would save the health department in the long run because it's a lot more expensive have a child expensive to have a child hospitalised than it is to simply give toothbrush simply give them a toothbrush and tooth, put a true ban on dentists using general anaesthetic. >> but why want a child >> but why do you want a child going a dentist? going to a dentist? >> it much >> you can prevent it much earlier, child earlier, much better for a child . children need to have to stick a that is archaic , like a hospital that is archaic, like we live in a society where we could just simply clean our teeth enough to not have a hospitalising i think case of tooth decay. >> i think. yeah, but i think this is a i think we need to kids need to brush their teeth, but it's certainly not on the
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teachers of this country, as you've out, who you've already pointed out, who you've already pointed out, who you underpaid and you feel are underpaid and overworked. you're going overworked. and you're going to add to their list of add that to their long list of things do with their things to do with their crumbling mean, it's things to do with their crumwell, mean, it's things to do with their crumwell, if mean, it's things to do with their crumwell, if we mean, it's things to do with their crumwell, if we don't,]ean, it's things to do with their crumwell, if we don't, whatit's things to do with their crumwell, if we don't, what do like, well, if we don't, what do we install more we have to install more bathrooms? they all up bathrooms? now they all line up and teeth. and brush their teeth. >> the children >> then the children will suffer. then the parents suffer. but then the parents have to some responsibility. >> and if anything, the government should be, should be looking the parents are looking at what the parents are doing. there parenting doing. is there good parenting in would be happy for them to >> i would be happy for them to let children suffer, to let the children suffer, to encourage do their encourage parents to do their job as parents brush job as parents and brush their children's would job as parents and brush their chiforzn's would job as parents and brush their chiforzndon't would job as parents and brush their chiforzndon't believe would job as parents and brush their chiforzndon't believe thatuld job as parents and brush their chiforzndon't believe that isi be for i don't believe that is nanny state. if we've got a problem that's a way to fix problem and that's a way to fix it, but it, let's go with it. but i don't think it should be up to teachers. but that's just my humble tooth decay than humble can we tooth decay than at history of at any point in the history of the and suddenly it's a massive >> and suddenly it's a massive problem. massive problem. it's not a massive problem. it's not a massive problem. well it is if it's ending up in hospital admissions, flaw, ending up in hospital admiss said, flaw, ending up in hospital admiss said, with flaw, ending up in hospital admiss said, with the flaw, ending up in hospital admiss said, with the system, as you said, with the system more well, i'm more than anything. well, i'm sorry, but that's we have sorry, but that's all we have time for. >> i think we genuinely angry. >> i think we genuinely angry. >> have could >> we could have we could have spoken afternoon. >> can that none of you >> i can tell that none of you have kids. >> all we have time for.
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>> that's all we have time for. this good afternoon, this is good afternoon, britain on gb news a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello, it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. much milder weather this weekend as it returns to wet and very windy storm isa has been named for later sunday and into monday, but it's going to be blustery all weekend. spells of rain will move through during saturday and more especially into sunday. and here's storm isa bringing some disruptive and damaging wind gusts during sunday and gusts during sunday night and into monday . gusts during sunday night and into monday. but for the time being, it's actually relatively calm there. clear skies for calm out there. clear skies for the midlands, east anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the south of england with a frost in places, but elsewhere, actually we the frost actually we lose the frost because atlantic because we gain the atlantic cloud and spells rain. cloud and spells of rain. there'll still be some hill or mountain snow scotland , but mountain snow for scotland, but otherwise be largely otherwise it will be largely rain as milder air moves in from the west . and it's going be the west. and it's going to be a breezy day on saturday,
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especially the north and the especially in the north and the west. first spell rain west. the first spell of rain moves into northern england, parts wales . moves into northern england, parts wales. it moves into northern england, parts wales . it fizzles out, parts of wales. it fizzles out, stays dry and bright in east anglia in the southeast after a chilly start. but further west, another bout of wet and windy weather moves in by the end of saturday, and you can see the difference in temperatures. we're up to 8 or 9 celsius in the still on the chilly the west, still on the chilly side in the south—east, 6 or 7. that doesn't last long because on further bouts of wet on sunday, further bouts of wet and increasingly windy weather move through. it's a showery day on sunday at first, but the rain turning more persistent later and the winds really picking up dunng and the winds really picking up during the afternoon and evening as stormy arrives . as stormy arrives. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .
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>> good afternoon . >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> it's 3 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk, we'll have lots on the huge story that's broken in this past hour and that's prince harry has sensationally dropped his libel claim against associated newspapers, the publisher of the mail on sunday and this terrible job news in south wales today.
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>> nearly 3000 people could be out of work after tata steel confirmed plans to close the blast furnaces at its port talbot plant , and the leader of talbot plant, and the leader of reform , richard tice, says he reform, richard tice, says he knows how to stop the boats. you don't want to miss this heated exchange with our political edhon exchange with our political editor, richard tice . editor, richard tice. >> instead of bringing them to dover , you take them to dunkirk dover, you take them to dunkirk and calais, which we're entitled to do. >> you can't do returns with france. >> you're asking questions with the completely false premise here. the answer . chris hope the completely false premise here. the answer. chris hope v ties one to watch. >> and there's the alarming admission from the head of ofsted, the new head that some schools have got no go areas for teachers. and that's all coming in your next hour. teachers. and that's all coming in your next hour . as usual, in your next hour. as usual, want to hear from you. do you think reform richard tice is the answer at the next election? and
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