of work after tata steel out of work after tata steel confirmed plans to close the blast furnaces at its port talbot plant , and the leader of talbot plant, and the leader of reform , richard tice, says he reform, richard tice, says he knows how to stop the boats. you don't want to miss this heated exchange with our political edhon exchange with our political editor, richard tice . editor, richard tice. >> instead of bringing them to dover , you take them to dunkirk dover, you take them to dunkirk and calais, which we're entitled to do. >> you can't do returns with france. >> you're asking questions with the completely false premise here. the answer . chris hope the completely false premise here. the answer. chris hope v ties one to watch. >> and there's the alarming admission from the head of ofsted, the new head that some schools have got no go areas for teachers. and that's all coming in your next hour. teachers. and that's all coming in your next hour . as usual, in your next hour. as usual, want to hear from you. do you think reform richard tice is the answer at the next election? and prince harry has thrown in the

towel. what does that say about him and the future of the sussexes? email me your views gbviews@gbnews.com and all the usual ways. but first it's time for your latest news headlines with sam francis . with sam francis. >> martin, thanks very much and good afternoon from the gb news room. the headlines at just after 3:00, while our top story of the day tata steel has confirmed that up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plans to close furnaces at the port talbot site, the cuts will be made over the next 18 months as the company transitions to a greener way of working. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry. barrie evans has been working at the steelworks for 28 years. obviously devastated. >> um let down by tata and the uk government . we do feel uk government. we do feel there's an opportunity to we understand we've got to go green

, but a transition should be over decades, not months . over decades, not months. >> head of the unite union in wales, peter hughes, told gb news earlier he thinks closing the furnace is a mistake . the furnace is a mistake. >> a sad day for the steel industry and it's a sad day for wales. like you said, this plant's been producing steel for over it's the over 100 years. it's the lifeblood of the community around here. to make 2500 around here. and to make 2500 people from here, it's people redundant from here, it's devastated. they close them because the decarbonisation, but they don't need to decarbonise until 2034. so this is a very rash decision. in fact , i rash decision. in fact, i believe it's vandalism . believe it's vandalism. >> well, downing street says the job losses are not as a result of the prime minister's net zero target. rishi sunak says the government remains committed to british steel making government provided half £1 billion to support tata . support tata. >> the alternative, by the way, was that the entire would was that the entire plant would be closed and all 8000 jobs would lost. but the would be lost. but the government worked with the company, £1 company, provided half £1 billion. is billion. the company is investing more in order to investing more money in order to safeguard thousands of jobs, and

that's something that uk that's something that the uk government has done. the welsh government not participate government did not participate in that's because in that, and that's because we cared the cared about those jobs and the future steelmaking wales cared about those jobs and the fututhe steelmaking wales cared about those jobs and the fututhe ukaelmaking wales cared about those jobs and the fututhe uk .3lmaking wales and the uk. >> but sir keir starmer says he's very concerned over the future of steel . future of steel. >> i was there just in october, so i know how this is going to impact on the workforce . the impact on the workforce. the government said it had a plan for steel. >> it transpires the plan involves thousands of redundancies. >> there's a better plan, a multi—union plan that the government needs to look at again when that's a viable way forward , it's vital that we have forward, it's vital that we have a viable steel industry in the united kingdom. labour's got a plan for that viable future for not just for the next year or two, but for decades to come. well in other news, the neighbour of a father and son who were found dead in skegness has told gb news they looked like a happy family. >> two year old bronson battersea was found next to the

body of his dad, kenneth , who body of his dad, kenneth, who suffered fatal heart attack . suffered a fatal heart attack. they last alive on they were last seen alive on boxing day by sherry ross in her first television interview, she told gb news she wasn't aware of anything suspicious . anything suspicious. >> the last time i saw the boys was the 26th, which was boxing day. um, a little bit concerned because we hadn't seen him for a number of days, really. so i went round, we knocked on the windows , knocked on the doors windows, knocked on the doors and eventually got an answer for little. bronson was there waving at me from the door, mouth full of pink wafers. bless him. and kenny was just kenny, you know, just running about frantically after the little one. he was two, so. but yeah, they were happy it was boxing day. lovely christmas . christmas. >> a serial sex offender has been jailed for 24 years. anthony burns used an online dating site to blackmail and abuse dozens of women and children over a two and a half year period from 2018. the 39 year period from 2018. the 39 year old ordered unsuspecting

victims, one as young as to seven, perform sexual acts under threat of exposing them to friends and family. roberts later from the national crime agency , described him as agency, described him as manipulative and he's an incredibly devious individual who's burns. >> he uses multiple personas to try and convince them that he was a safe individual to deal with. they would be. he would introduce photographers, he would introduce other females, all of which were him. but it was all a ruse just to convince the individual that he was a safe pair of hands and he could be trusted. >> well , as be trusted. >> well, as we've been hearing the bodies of four people have been found at a property near norwich, norfolk police has launched an investigation following that discovery in costessey this morning. >> believed were all >> it's believed they were all known to each other. detectives say that at this stage it's being treated as an isolated incident . the uk's health agency incident. the uk's health agency has declared a national incident following a measles outbreak across the country . it's warning across the country. it's warning urgent action is needed to ensure that children are vaccinated and protected against

the potentially deadly infection . figures show there have been more than 200 confirmed cases since october. concerns have also been raised about particular areas , including particular areas, including parts of london and the west midlands . and as we've been midlands. and as we've been hearing, prince harry has withdrawn his libel case against the mail on sunday. it comes on the mail on sunday. it comes on the day he was due to hand over relevant documents, but his lawyers have now filed a notice of discontinuance. he was trying to sue the mail on sunday for its reporting of his dispute with home office over his with the home office over his security arrangements , and security arrangements, and that's the latest from the gb newsroom for more, we're on tv, on digital radio and, of course, on digital radio and, of course, on your smart speaker two just say play gb news now though, back to . martin. back to. martin. >> thank you sam. now we start with that huge news that broke less than an hour ago. prince harry has dropped his high court libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday.

and i'm joined now by our royal correspondent cameron walker. cameron, welcome to the show . cameron, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. a sensational last minute u—turn turn by harry and one that could prove to be very, very expensive . for. okay, very, very expensive. for. okay, cameron, we lost him there. we're going to get the com sorted out. so this news just broke. be a very, very broke. could be a very, very expensive case. it's rumoured about three quarters of £1 million in legal fees. now, harry may be liable for and that's including 250,000 to the mail group . half a million of mail group. half a million of his own fees. quite why he decided to throw the towel in at this late moment. we will find out now from cameron walker . out now from cameron walker. cameron martin, apologies for that. >> yes. so the prince of harry, prince harry, it appears, has lost his battle, particularly

with this libel case against the mail on sunday. of course, he's got a number of other cases going through the high court in london, but this is to do with an article written in the mail on sunday about his separate libel claim case. even um, to do with his home office security. now, the article alleged that prince harry was trying to essentially spin the narrative and make him seem a bit more in and make him seem a bit more in a positive light or a sympathetic light in the eyes of the british public. by using his pr team to essentially spin the narrative. now, prince harry then decided to sue the mail on sunday for writing that article , sunday for writing that article, because he alleges that the article was an attack on his honesty and integrity and would undermine his charity work as well as as well as his efforts to tackle misinformation online. well, the mail on sunday hit back and said it was honest opinion and did not cause prince harry serious harm . um, but harry serious harm. um, but prince harry's lawyers were so

convinced that they would win this case that they asked the judge to not even go to a trial because they just were absolutely convinced that they would be able to win it without a trial. but the judge disagreed. last month and said that the mail on sunday have a real prospect of successfully showing at trial that previous harry press statements provided a misleading description of his case against the home office. so what happens now? well, it looks like prince harry has a pretty hefty court fee, so he could have to pay associated newspapers. that's the publisher of the mail on sunday, £250,000 plus his own lawyer's fees, which could take the total somewhere in the region of around £750,000. so not only is he withdrawing this libel case, he's also got a pretty hefty bill as well. >> okay, cameron walker, thank you for that. and as we say, a very expensive live, um, u—turn there by harry, three quarters of £1 million, quite why he's

withdrawn. i guess we will find out in the fullness of time. but a very expensive game of bluff. their legal poker wanted the case thrown out of court, initially in its entirety , and initially in its entirety, and it was the justice who said no chance at all about that. and indeed , now he's been made to indeed, now he's been made to fool the full amount back censored story. we'll have lots more on that throughout the show, of course, and there's plenty of coverage on our website gbnews.com you've helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the country, you very much . country, so thank you very much. now, steel giant tata has confirmed plans to close blast furnaces on its port talbot site in south wales. this could lead to the loss of up to 2500 jobs in the next 18 months, with 2800 jobs in total impact said the furnaces will transition to electric arc technology , which electric arc technology, which require fewer workers to maintain. unite the uk's leading union, says they use every thing

in its armoury to defend steel workers and the steel industry well , our workers and the steel industry well, our economics and business editor , liam halligan, is editor, liam halligan, is outside the port talbot steelworks . liam, i know you've steelworks. liam, i know you've been there all day. liam. as a coal miner's son, i remember the impact of the mines being closed on my communities. generations of miners left jobless and now port talbot going down the same route must be a huge, huge impact on the local community. there >> indeed , martin, they've been >> indeed, martin, they've been making steel at the plant behind me for over 100 years since the 18905. a me for over 100 years since the 1890s. a lot of the modern technology that's used in steelmaking across the world has been developed by worker in the plant behind me, you see, the two blast furnaces , they're two blast furnaces, they're going to be closed down by tata, the indian conglomerate. the government's giving them £500 million in order to close them

down. as it reaches for those net zero targets. so beloved of so many urban professional voters . but here in so many urban professional voters. but here in port so many urban professional voters . but here in port talbot, voters. but here in port talbot, this is britain's biggest steel plant. the prospect of 2500 jobs going to 2800 jobs in tata steelmaking across the country is an absolute pulverising hammer blow for a proud steelmaking community here in south wales. tata is nothing less. martin than the biggest private sector employer in wales. this is astonishing and we're hearing news from first minister of wales, mark drakeford, that his attempts to even phone rishi sunak in downing street have proved unsuccessful . will the prime unsuccessful. will the prime minister apparently too busy to take his call earlier? i had a conversation with barry evans. barry is an extremely experienced steel maker , a blast experienced steel maker, a blast furnace man he calls himself. he's from port talbot and he's

worked in the plant behind me for almost three decades. he described himself as angry, worried and feeling let down by tata and the government . tata and the government. >> i'm going into my 29th year now in the steel industry . now in the steel industry. >> um, obviously it's a devastating blow, not just for the 2800 employees directly employed by tata, but the contractors, the communities , contractors, the communities, the supply chain. >> this is thousands and thousands of jobs impacted. you >> the chances are, barry , that >> the chances are, barry, that you are going to lose your job. you are going to lose yourjob. if 2800 of a 4000 strong workforce are to be cut, how does that make you feel? >> um, worried . does that make you feel? >> um, worried. um, does that make you feel? >> um, worried . um, obviously >> um, worried. um, obviously devastate . did, um, let down by devastate. did, um, let down by tata and the uk government? we do feel there's an opportunity to we understand we've got to go green. but but a transition should be over decades , not months. >> a lot of people are questioned . this decision questioned. this decision martin, not just because of the

huge hammer blow to the community here, not just because the tories need lots of red wall seats like this one. if they're going to even make a fist of contesting the next general election. but also on strategic grounds. when we close down these blast furnaces and the blast furnaces in scunthorpe to there, all four of the remaining blast furnaces in britain, we can't make any more what's called virgin steel , can't make any more what's called virgin steel, high quality steel. we can only make steel from other people's recycle and steel and scrap metal at a time when britain is still going to need lots and lots of virgin steel for buildings and all kinds of other processes to build arms and all the rest of it , we're processes to build arms and all the rest of it, we're going to be reliant on imported steel that imported steel can contains itself lots of carbon embodiment because it's been made by blast furnaces in other parts of the country , not in our backyard, country, not in our backyard, and also imported steel that will come from russia and from china, a lot of it through the red sea. and there's lots going

on in the red sea at the moment. martin, as you know, not least royal navy warship made of virgin steel and american warships and other countries trying to keep that vital channel of world trade that routes from asia to the mediterranean and european markets, and indeed the uk open in the face of attacks from iranian backed houthi rebels. those geopolitical tensions aren't going to go anywhere, any time soon. and yet, aren't going to go anywhere, any time soon. and yet , to the time soon. and yet, to the detriment of the community here andindeed detriment of the community here and indeed to the detriment i would say objectively, of britain's economic security . britain's economic security. these blast furnaces , it's been these blast furnaces, it's been confirmed today, are being closed down with the loss of 2800 jobs as liam, how much of this feels like the woke classes versus versus the working classes ? classes? >> they're offshoring production . they're offshoring, they're guilt . it doesn't . they're offshoring, they're guilt. it doesn't make . they're offshoring, they're guilt . it doesn't make the guilt. it doesn't make the carbon footprint less. it just means it's somewhere else. meanwhile, we're losing jobs.

we're giving jobs to our strategic foes . in many sense, strategic foes. in many sense, we're no friends really , with we're no friends really, with russia or with china . meanwhile, russia or with china. meanwhile, proud working class communities are being trampled on with the loss of thousands of jobs. and yet they have no political allies. liam >> indeed, martin, i've been describing this story all day today to gb news viewers and listeners as a clash of cultures , the culture, the political culture. if you like, of metropolitan britain , largely of metropolitan britain, largely of urban britain, of white collar britain if you like, and lots of young people to that . young people to that. environmental imperatives are everything and nothing can match the import chance of meeting those net zero targets. and lowering this country's carbon emissions . then you've got the emissions. then you've got the culture across much of the rest of the country, and particularly among blue collar communities. the blue collar communities who man the uk's man. facturing sector still one of the top ten

manufacturing sectors in the world, accounting for a huge share of our exports. the communities who rely on jobs in that manufacturing sector, not least communities like that here in port talbot, there is a clash of cultures. locals here have been telling me all day they feel done too. they feel put upon, they feel as if they are paying upon, they feel as if they are paying disproportionately, massively disproportionate in some cases , the costs of meeting some cases, the costs of meeting those net zero targets, while a lot of professional people with their clipboards and their powerpoint presentations are getting so far, the green jobs that are meant to be replacing these , uh, the kind of jobs of these, uh, the kind of jobs of men and women in the steel making plant behind me. it is a clash of cultures. it's a clash of politics. it's a kind of mismatch between different parts of what's supposed to be a unhed of what's supposed to be a united country . we, the people united country. we, the people of south wales today , as i say, of south wales today, as i say, tata is the biggest private sector employer today in wales. the people here in port talbot,

they are feeling done. too many people , while acknowledging that people, while acknowledging that we do have to clean up our process and leave a better planet for our children and grandchildren, are mystified and bewildered and angry that the costs are falling disproportionately on them and their families . their families. >> and liam. it also leaves out the mercy. i've not been able to be steel sovereign in the same way. we're not energy sovereign, we're reliant on imports. we're reliant dependent there on massive price fluctuations or shortfalls. we all know that recycled steel isn't up to the same quality as virgin steel. it contains impurities such as coppen contains impurities such as copper. it's not strong enough for the high impact industry industry building. have we just given up on trying to be a competitor? have we given up on building stuff or just outsourcing everything? all of it on the altar of net zero? it does strike me. >> there's a really fundamental lack of joined up, grown up

thinking when it comes to the security of this country , not security of this country, not just the security in terms of our, our armed forces and defence. and so on. though, of course, many gb news viewers and listeners will lament the fact that the armed forces are finding it hard to recruit young people these days and defence budgets are being slashed back. but i'm talking about energy security, as you said , martin, security, as you said, martin, andindeed security, as you said, martin, and indeed secure of steel supply. we are in a world where there's more geopolitical turmoil than there's been at any time since the end of the cold war, back in the late 1980s and early 1990s. and that has implications for the industries that the government chooses to back for how we procure for our energy supplies. i think there's a growing sense now that even though many people would agree we want to leave a cleaner planet for our children and grandchildren, we want to wean

ourselves off fossil fuels over a period of time . it has to be a period of time. it has to be done gradually . it a period of time. it has to be done gradually. it has to be done gradually. it has to be donein done gradually. it has to be done in a sensible way. that doesn't compromise our energy security. literally our ability to keep the lights on our ability to make our own buildings and arms with our own steel. not reliant on distant supply chains in increasingly, um , uh, in an increasingly um, uh, in an increasingly conflict filled world, i think a lot of voters would want to see signs of proper joined up signs of properjoined up thinking at the top of government. and when you see blast furnaces like this closed down quickly with very little regard for where the steel that they produce is going to come from. i do think it leaves lots of us whatever political party we vote for , wherever from we vote for, wherever from across the uk . it leaves us kind across the uk. it leaves us kind of bewildered . of bewildered. >> mm liam halligan . beautifully >> mm liam halligan. beautifully put, beautifully put. um, my heart really goes out to the people of port talbot. like i say, coming from the coal mining

communities as i did, it took generations , really, to get over generations, really, to get over the impact of losing that industry. it was never really replaced people replaced with anything. people without , they lack faith without purpose, they lack faith in their country. without purpose, they lack faith in their country . they lack in their country. they lack faith in politics. they're going in their country. they lack faifeeli politics. they're going in their country. they lack faifeel completely|ey're going in their country. they lack faifeel completely abandoned. to feel completely abandoned. many people must many working class people must be asking themselves, what's in it this zero it for me with this net zero business, i'm losing my boiler. i'm losing my car, i'm losing my quality living. it's more quality of living. it's more expensive. imports oil, expensive. and now imports oil, but losing thousands and thousands of jobs. but losing thousands and thousands of jobs . liam thousands of jobs. liam halligan. thank you. there from port talbot. now we've got a tv exclusive, an interview with the last neighbour to see the tragic two year old toddler, bronson battersby alive. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

people's channel, britain's news channel. people's channel, britain's news channel . welcome back. channel. welcome back. >> 326 you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now. later this hour i'll bring you a heated exchange between our political editor, christopher hope, and the leader of reform party, richard of the reform party, richard tice. been put on the spot tice. he's been put on the spot about his party's controversial plans stop the boats. believe plans to stop the boats. believe me, it majorly kicks off. you will not want to miss it. and later in the show, as nato warns that we need to prepare for all out war with russia in the next 20 years, i'll ask, could we see the return of conscription and all this generation z even up to it now, the neighbour of a

father and son who were found deadin father and son who were found dead in skegness, has told gb news they looked like a happy family. two year old bronson battersby was found next to the body of his dad, kenneth , who body of his dad, kenneth, who suffered fatal heart attack at suffered a fatal heart attack at home. and i'm joined now by our east midlands reporter with will hollis will welcome to the show and a sad circumstances once again, an excellent interview . again, an excellent interview. um, earlier on, tell us what happened. um, earlier on, tell us what happened . yes well, the focus happened. yes well, the focus has been here in prince alfred avenue in skegness for a number of days. >> it was on the 9th of january that police and social workers found the bodies of not only two year old bronson , a poor year old bronson, a poor toddler. um vulnerable, but also his 60 year old father, who died of a heart attack. now we know now that it's pretty likely that the toddler died of starvation and dehydration. but what we've been hearing now is that the

last person to see him alive was on the 26th. from um, sherry. she said that everything seemed perfectly normal. there was no problems . there perfectly normal. there was no problems. there was perfectly normal. there was no problems . there was nothing to problems. there was nothing to be suspicious about. they just enjoyed christmas . they thanked enjoyed christmas. they thanked them for paying a visit, and that was the last time that bronson and kenny were seen alive. she said that they were loved on this street and they seemed to be best friends in a way that only a boy and a father can be. she also . described them can be. she also. described them as being like the chuckle brothers. she was sharing a little bit about her thoughts at clearly a very difficult time because the national focus on because of the national focus on what's happened here in skegness and because of the quite traumatic circumstance , is that traumatic circumstance, is that bronson and his father, kenny, have died . have died. >> the last time i saw the boys was the 26th, which was boxing day . um, a little was the 26th, which was boxing day. um, a little bit was the 26th, which was boxing day . um, a little bit concerned day. um, a little bit concerned because we hadn't seen him for a number of days, really . so number of days, really. so i went round, we knocked on the

windows, knocked on the doors, and eventually got an answer . and eventually got an answer. little bronson was there waving at me from the door, mouth full of pink wafers. bless him. and kenny was just kenny, you know, just running about frantically after the little one. he was too. so. but yeah, they were happy it was boxing day . lovely happy it was boxing day. lovely christmas. no no idea that anything like that was going to happen at all. >> was that what they were like most of the time? happy and bubbly, a bit of a pair. >> oh, god. yeah oh, they were like the chuckle brothers. they really were. i mean, he was the apple of his eye, you know , apple of his eye, you know, bronson saw his dad as his best friend . and i honestly believe friend. and i honestly believe that kenny saw the baby as his best friend , and they were just best friend, and they were just inseparable. you know, like i say, two peas in a pod, you know , there was just love. you could see it. and that baby was such a loving little boy as well. so yeah. >> you said you saw them on the

26th. the media's reporting that that's the last time somebody saw them. do you think that you're the last person to see them alive? >> um , well, contrary to that, >> um, well, contrary to that, my partner actually saw him on the 28th. um as i say, we had a text message on the 27th thanking us for attending on the 26th, and my partner was taking my dog out. lola and our dogs didn't get on. so as he's walked through the back passage, because that's the way that he used, obviously kenny didn't come on to the street. um, so yeah, down there, the yeah, walking down there, the dog had gotten out . so my dog had gotten out. so my partner went to kenny's door and kenny came out and took the dog back in and that was the last that we know of him being seen . that we know of him being seen. well social services at lincolnshire county council have ordered a review into the processes that have led up to the discovery of bronson and kenny's body . kenny's body. >> one of the things that sherry has said, though, is that she

would like there to be a bronson's law in the years to come, meaning that there would have to be much more regular visits to vulnerable children in the similar situations to bronson. um, she also said that because this happened over that christmas period between christmas period between christmas day and the 9th of january, she said that christmas and new year's will never be the same here. on prince alfred avenue . avenue. >> okay. thank you , wheelhorse >> okay. thank you, wheelhorse for that update on that tragic, tragic story . for that update on that tragic, tragic story. thank you very much. now, there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00. and there's the shocking news that behaviour in some schools is now so bad that they've got no go areas for teachers. and then a few minutes ihave teachers. and then a few minutes i have news of a serial sex offender who's been jailed for 24 years. but first, here's your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> martin. thank you. your top

stories from gb news. the neighbour of a father and son who were found dead in skegness, has told gb news they looked like a happy family. two year old bronson battersby was found next body of his dad next to the body of his dad kenneth, who suffered a fatal heart attack. they were last seen alive on boxing day by sheriff ross. in her first television interview, she told gb news she wasn't aware of anything suspicious . anything suspicious. >> it's the last time i saw the boys was the 26th, which was boxing day. um, a little bit concerned because we hadn't seen him for a number of days, really. so i went round, we knocked on the windows , knocked knocked on the windows, knocked on the doors, and eventually got an for little. an answer for little. bronson was waving at me from the was there waving at me from the doom was there waving at me from the door, mouth full of pink wafers. bless and kenny was just bless him. and kenny was just kenny, you know, just running about frantically after the little one. he was two, so. but yeah, they were happy it was boxing day. lovely christmas aethereal sex offender has been

jailed for 24 years. >> anthony byrnes used online dating sites to blackmail and abuse dozens of women and children over a two and a half year period from 2018. the 39 year period from 2018. the 39 year old ordered unsuspecting victims, one as young as seven, to perform sexual acts under threat of exposing them to friends and family. threat of exposing them to friends and family . tata steel friends and family. tata steel has confirmed up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot site, the cuts will be made over the next 18 months as the company transitions to a greener way of working . the greener way of working. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry . and prince harry has industry. and prince harry has withdrawn his libel case against the mail on sunday. it comes on the mail on sunday. it comes on the day he was due to hand over relevant documents, but his lawyers have now filed a notice of discontinuance. he was trying to sue the mail on for sunday

its reporting of his dispute with the home over his with the home office over his security arrangements . it's you security arrangements. it's you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . for stunning gold gbnews.com. for stunning gold and silver coins. >> you'll always value. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . news financial report. >> here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2667 and ,1.1647. the price of gold . £1,599.20 per price of gold. £1,599.20 per ounce, and the ftse 100 . at 7457 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . thanks tatiana. report. thanks tatiana. >> now a serial sex offender who

used online dating sites to blackmail and abuse dozens of women and children, has been jailed for 24 years. anthony burns coerced one of his victims to abuse her own eight year old daughter while he watched over the internet, and i'm joined now by our homeland security editor , by our homeland security editor, mark white, to discuss this absolutely shocking and appalling case. a very modern case. mark and justice finally served on anthony burns. >> yeah , you're right there. >> yeah, you're right there. this is a man who took advantage of modern technology to try to coerce women into sending these sexually explicit still images and videos to him. he would pose sometimes as a representative from a modelling agency . he even from a modelling agency. he even posed as an officer from the national crime agency and went on to dating apps, often . and

on to dating apps, often. and £600 as a representative from a modelling agency for some explicit pictures . when women explicit pictures. when women would send him pictures, he just used that to blackmail them and to send even more in the way of deeply damaging and explicit images, which he would then threaten to expose to pass on to family and friends if they didn't send him more in the way of images . we spoke to one an of of images. we spoke to one an of this man's vicky sims, sophie goodall , who waived this man's vicky sims, sophie goodall, who waived her right to anonymity because she wanted to speak about the impact that this man's offending had on her. >> when i blocked him , he kept >> when i blocked him, he kept coming back on different numbers. then he sent me a screenshots of my parents on facebook , me on facebook , um, facebook, me on facebook, um, other social media friends and family as well . and that was

family as well. and that was really scary because all he had of me was my first name and the photo on my whatsapp. i hadn't shared anything with him. we just exchanged flirty chat. then the final time i had a conversation with him, he started sending me very sexual. really disgusting imagery and then accused me of being racist for not reciprocating . so then i for not reciprocating. so then i called the police . it's quite called the police. it's quite terrifying because it doesn't matter that it was only a short amount of time, it affected me for such a long time because i had no idea that he wasn't like in the park , outside my house or in the park, outside my house or at the bus stop, which i could see from my windows. you know, and i didn't. i didn't know what he really looked like. he could be some huge built guy. he could be some huge built guy. he could be some huge built guy. he could be some nothing. it just the anonymity of him when he knew everything about me and he knew everyone, i knew . um, that's everyone, i knew. um, that's what i found terrifying .

what i found terrifying. >> well, a very brave woman that wanted to come forward and waive that right to anonymity , to that right to anonymity, to really speak about the impact that such crimes have on victims like her. and another deeply concerning aspect of this crime is that , uh, anthony burns was is that, uh, anthony burns was tutored by another prolific sex offender , uh, abdullahi. now he offender, uh, abdullahi. now he is one of the most serious offenders that the national crime agency has ever investigated. he he had something like 2000 victims across the globe that he coerced into sending images as well, blackmailed them into sending these sexually expl images. he was sentenced . to 32 years in was sentenced. to 32 years in jail in december of 2021, but not before he passed on his knowledge to anthony burns about the techniques that works for best blackmailing these victims . best blackmailing these victims. as the judge in passing sentence

, martin said, you did not care about the anguish caused and had no regard to the misery caused to your victims. so the judge then sentenced him to 24 years in jail . in jail. >> okay. thank you , mark white. >> okay. thank you, mark white. every father and every woman's worst nightmare. anthony burns is a very modern crime . but some is a very modern crime. but some good old fashioned justice served up . now, violence at some served up. now, violence at some schools is so bad that teachers are locking themselves in their classrooms during breaks and lunch times for their own safety reasons. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

>> gb news is britain's election . channel. welcome back. >> 343 you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news after rishi sunak urged piers not to frustrate the will of the people by opposing the rwanda bill, a 4:00 i'll ask a labour mp whether he wants the piers to do just that. with echoes of brexit. of course, now , as promised to our explosive interview with the leader of reform, richard tice , our reform, richard tice, our political editor, christopher hope sat down with tuc to discuss a number of issues, including whether tory mps could defect to reform and if he's just keeping the seat warm before nigel farage becomes leader. but christopher started by asking how reform would stop the boats .

the boats. >> we've got a six point plan, but the two key components is we've got to leave the european convention on human rights. i'd like referendum on that. we'd like a referendum on that. we'd win it hands down. the country is sick tired of foreign is sick and tired of foreign judges overseas telling us a sovereign, independent nation, the judges in a court in strasbourg, sign up to, strasbourg, which we sign up to, that make it a foreign that doesn't make it a foreign court or a foreign judge. it is a court because it's not a foreign court because it's not in the united kingdom. that is literally of literally the definition of foreign, are foreign, chris. and they are judges that judges from overseas that makes them and we're them foreign, right? and we're a sovereign, nation. sovereign, independent nation. >> the echr. sovereign, independent nation. >> that's the echr. sovereign, independent nation. >> that's first the echr. sovereign, independent nation. >> that's first point. echr. sovereign, independent nation. >> that's first point. the r. >> that's the first point. the second you've got to do second point is you've got to do what you know works. it works in australia. in australia. we need in the in the engush australia. we need in the in the english channel. we need to safely up out of the safely pick people up out of the dinghies border dinghies into our border force cutters bringing them cutters instead of bringing them instead of bringing them to doven instead of bringing them to dover. take them to dunkirk dover. you take them to dunkirk and which we're entitled and calais, which we're entitled to do. >> you can't return to reunite with france. >> you're asking questions with the completely premise the completely false premise here. the answer we're entitled to do that under two international treaties international legal treaties that i have read, i know exactly the clauses, and no one has

disputed it. what you need is political courage and leadership that tony abbott showed in australia in 2013, he said he would stop the boats. he did it. he got some flak from the lefty lawyers and the international institutions. but we are institutions. but here we are ten years later. both main parties in australia carry out the policy and the boats the same policy and the boats stopped. which treaties ? it's stopped. which treaties? it's the safety of life at the 1974. so safety of life at sea , a treaty. and the second sea, a treaty. and the second one is the 1982 un convention on the law at sea. under those treaties with proper, courageous leadership, we can safely pick up and take back to france. >> you're a seductive offer to people annoyed about the tory party looking at how they can't be annoyed about how the country is ruined. okay fair is being ruined. okay fair enough. has enough. the country has been ruined labour tory ruined and so labour and tory and starmageddon and tory supporters starmageddon is country in 2024. >> and it's a serious risk where are you going on the polls? >> you're up to 13% shortly. >> you're up to 13% shortly. >> we're a 12% now. and a yougov poll. heading what poll. we're heading north. what i given what we're i think given given what we're hearing, internal, i think within a weeks we're very within a few weeks we're very likely hit we're heading

likely to hit 13. we're heading north and success breeds success. >> success. >> and tory mps are seeing this . >> and tory mps are seeing this. have you got a unit set up to attract them to join the reform party? >> look, they know my number. yes or no? >> is there a unit set up? >> is there a unit set up? >> well, actually, we need a unit because the truth is we're getting loads of applications from existing conservative councillors. a councillors. how many? quite a lot actually. obviously we have to. you know, we have to go through a vetting and through a vetting process and check know there's check them. and you know there's tactics involved there tactics involved here. but there are people the tory tactics involved here. but there are who people the tory tactics involved here. but there are who realise the tory tactics involved here. but there are who realise thate tory tactics involved here. but there are who realise that the ry tactics involved here. but there are who realise that the game party who realise that the game is up. they're toxic . the is up. they're toxic. the writing is on the wall and people are saying actually you stand for the philosophy of conserve autism. and that's what that's they're signing up to. >> and just finally, critics of you personally would say you're a for nigel farage. a placeholder for nigel farage. these supporting the these numbers supporting the party might be because he's busy talking about politics. more are you a placeholder or are you the leader to take the party into the next election? well, so far in three years, when in the last three years, when people laughed we set people laughed at me when we set up remember up reform uk, i can't remember if lots of others

if you did, but lots of others did, tory mps. did, including tory mps. >> oh, you're you're >> they said, oh, you're you're being ridiculous. three years later, mps later, i tell you, no tory mps are at us now . are laughing at us now. >> ding dong , ding dong. twice >> ding dong, ding dong. twice he was talking to our political edhon he was talking to our political editor, christopher hope, and he joins me now . a lot of people joins me now. a lot of people are saying that you were harsh on a colleague of on him. he's a colleague of yours. but this is actually a dress rehearsal. really. i mean, he's on he's going to get a hard time on the of the press wherever the rest of the press wherever he goes. >> i he's number three in >> i mean, he's number three in the he's 12 the polls. he's on. he's on 12 points on yougov poll this points on a yougov poll this week, up from eight. thinks week, up from eight. he thinks that 13 points far, that might go to 13 points far, far of the liberal far ahead of the liberal democrats chasing democrats and chasing the tories. going get tories. and he's going to get more scrutiny. i think it's incumbent on gb news and us in the political team to ensure we do give all the leaders of all the parties, even if they are presenters on the station, a tough grilling over what they're planning. offering planning. i mean, he's offering their thoughts on one in, one out, cutting £5 for every £100 spent. i did it in business. why can't you do it in government ? can't you do it in government? and i was trying to say to him, yeah, everyone thinks that, you know, archie norman, these know, archie norman, all these business people go into government find themselves

government and find themselves weighed i weighed down by treacle. and i know he's got new ideas. and i suppose the attraction of his party he's got ideas . party is he's got new ideas. he's. it's a new thing, in a sense. her new sense. liz truss had her new ideas and that went a bit wrong. i'm not saying that will happen with to with reform, but she's trying to offer new thoughts, new ideas for voters . for voters. >> it was a fair exchange, though . i mean, were asking though. i mean, you were asking tough questions. he was coming though. i mean, you were asking tough quefairns. he was coming though. i mean, you were asking tough quefair answersas coming though. i mean, you were asking tough quefair answers .; coming though. i mean, you were asking tough quefair answers . you'veg back with fair answers. you've interviewed a lot of political leaders. how do you think he kind of fares? >> well, he's good. i mean, he certainly strategy certainly it was a strategy traps raising tone with me, traps raising the tone with me, which i'm very happy with. i mean, think you know, mean, i think he was you know, i think he's he's got the facts at his fingertips. um, he's got a few, ideas and they are few, a few ideas and they are quite know, quite attractive. um, you know, lifting the threshold at which you income from around you pay income tax from around 12 grand to 20 grand is attractive to anybody. i attractive to anybody. but i said, going to pay said, how are you going to pay for £40 billion? these for that 40, £40 billion? these are tories would are ideas which the tories would to and they're not. to love adopt. and they're not. i he's my concern i mean, he's my big concern about mean, not my biggest about i mean, not my biggest earner, concern for people's earner, a concern for people's supporting reform would be that at ukip, the last comparable

election 2015. martin. that election was 2015. martin. that was one we knew was going to was the one we knew was going to happen. surprised . happen. it wasn't surprised. election like in 17 and 19, that election , 3.88 million people election, 3.88 million people voted ukip . but how many mps voted for ukip. but how many mps do the end of that? do they have at the end of that? >> well, they got one. >> well, they got one. >> did they? one in clacton, douglas, carswell. now the concerns people concerns got to be for people supporting this party. is you are going to take away support from the tory party and from the from the tory party and you might end 0 1 mp, you might end up with 0 oh mp, even millions of joined even if millions of you joined the bandwagon. and that's the reform bandwagon. and that's the reform bandwagon. and that's the concern. so that but flip side , it may be that they might side, it may be that they might get 20 mps if 5 million votes for them, or 30 or 40 if 7 million vote for them. but it's very important to know what you're voting for, and that's what we're trying to at gb news. okay >> great stuff. i thought it was a really robust and fair exchange. let me know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com now to a story that paints a frightening picture state frightening picture of the state of schools . the new head of of our schools. the new head of the schools watchdog has said of our schools. the new head of the sc schools atchdog has said of our schools. the new head of the scschools haveog has said of our schools. the new head of the scschools have no 1as said of our schools. the new head of the sc schools have no go said of our schools. the new head of the sc schools have no go areas some schools have no go areas for teachers . the chief for teachers. the chief inspector of ofsted, sir martin oliver, also revealed that some

staff are even locking themselves in their classroom dunng themselves in their classroom during breaks and lunch times to keep themselves safe . keep themselves safe. astonishing states of affairs and to join me now to discuss this is the editor in chief at the good schools guide, lord ralph lucas . lord lucas, thank ralph lucas. lord lucas, thank you for joining ralph lucas. lord lucas, thank you forjoining us on the show. you for joining us on the show. good afternoon. astonishing uh, information here and very , very information here and very, very shocking. how did we get to a situation where seemingly the people in charge in schools aren't the teachers, but the kids ? kids? >> it's always been a level of that. >> in 1995, philip lawrence was murdered at saint george's catholic school in in maida vale . and i knew some teachers there at the time. and they said a day didn't pass when a teacher wasn't hit by a pupil. didn't pass when a teacher wasn't hit by a pupil . and now wasn't hit by a pupil. and now it's outstanding . so yes, you it's outstanding. so yes, you really get some awful schools. you get schools where discipline has broken down and things have fallen apart . has broken down and things have fallen apart. but it is entirely possible to rescue them as long as you get a good team and they

are backed by the parents and backed by the authorities . backed by the authorities. >> but how does that discipline work? my mother was a teacher for her entire career and so was my auntie . and back in the day, my auntie. and back in the day, you were allowed to discipline children if necessary by removing them from class physically. now if that happened, there'd be a huge ream of paperwork and it's given the power of balance to the kids . power of balance to the kids. they know that that teachers can't lay a hand on them. they know they can't enforce discipline properly, and as a consequence, they know they can have no go areas and barricade teachers in classrooms. and really, nothing's going to happen to them . happen to them. >> no, you can have some really good schools. you can run really good schools. you can run really good discipline . you absolutely good discipline. you absolutely can, uh, take children out of class and keep them separate . in class and keep them separate. in in the ultimate, you can remove them from school, but you do need the systems around about to pick up those children who've been excluded from school. and

give them an education separate from school. and were that works that can work really well. but what we don't do enough of is supporting the schools to have good discipline. we are too many parents, too many, uh, authorities are saying, no, no, no, no, no, you've got to look after these children, keep them in school, understand them, hug them. no, they they're so disruptive . they destroy the disruptive. they destroy the education and life chances of other people. you've got in the ultimate and children like discipline children like boundanes discipline children like boundaries and rules. they work well within a structure. they don't work well where life is chaos. >> and lord lucas , um, my missus >> and lord lucas, um, my missus is a to five year old's headbutting and biting teachers in classrooms now seems to be an everyday occurrence. being a punchbag for children with no discipline seems to be a part of the job description, which nobody signed up for. how much of a role do you think , lord

of a role do you think, lord lucas bad parenting has to blame in this ? in this? >> oh, absolutely bad. >> oh, absolutely bad. >> i mean kids, kids aren't responsible for the families they grow up in, and some of them grow up in really terrible circumstances is what a school can do , is provide the structure can do, is provide the structure for them to behave differently . for them to behave differently. uh, they use one of the schools i liked, pimlico academy, used to have a sign outside saying, the street stops here. uh, and children just behave differently. i mean, you will see that in your own life. your children, when you take them around to friends, behave perfectly when they're at home, they're total terrors. so children do know that in different environments, there expected to behave differently. and if a school sets clear rules and is calm and straightforward and is calm and straightforward and consistent in enforcing them , most children will in the end go along with that. and those that can't really have to be

educated separately because they do do other children so much harm . harm. >> okay, lord ralph lucas, director of the good school guide , thank you very much for guide, thank you very much for joining us on the show. i wonder if we can fix this. um, i wonder where the problem begins . i've where the problem begins. i've done a load of work on this. i've in some of the most, i've been in some of the most, um, socially deprived schools in britain. i did a lot of on britain. i did a lot of work on education, particularly with boys and chaos is coming into schools are schools and teachers are expected it as a expected to deal with it as a form social service. and so expected to deal with it as a form fatheral service. and so expected to deal with it as a form father figures:e. and so expected to deal with it as a form father figures are ind so expected to deal with it as a form father figures are absent. often father figures are absent. parents are sending bad children into classrooms and expecting it to be somebody else's problem . to be somebody else's problem. anyway, let's move on, because yesterday rishi sunak was told the to do the right thing by the law to do the right thing by not opposing the rwanda bill. but peers are already plotting to frustrate the government. we'll have the full details on that. we'll have the full details on that . is there we'll have the full details on that. is there a we'll have the full details on that . is there a conspiracy of that. is there a conspiracy of labour and lib dem lords? we'll look at that after this. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel. a brighter outlook with boxt solar

, sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello, it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. much milder weather this weekend as it returns to wet and very windy storm isha has been named for later sunday and into monday, but it's going to be blustery all weekend. spells of rain will move through during saturday and more especially into sunday. and here's storm isha bringing some disruptive and damaging wind gusts during sunday night and into monday. but for the time being, it's actually relatively calm out there. clear skies for the midlands, east anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the south of england with a frost in places. but elsewhere actually we frost actually we lose the frost because gain the atlantic because we gain the atlantic cloud spells of rain. cloud and spells of rain. there'll still be some hill or mountain snow for scotland, but otherwise it will be largely rain milder in from rain as milder air moves in from the west . and it's going to be the west. and it's going to be a breezy day on saturday, especially north and the especially in the north and the west. the first spell of rain moves into northern england , moves into northern england,

parts wales. fizzles out , parts of wales. it fizzles out, stays dry and bright in east anglia in the southeast, after a chilly start. but further west, another bout of wet and windy weather moves in by the end of saturday and you can see the difference in temperatures. we're up to 8 or 9 celsius in the still on the chilly the west still on the chilly side the south—east, 6 or 7. side in the south—east, 6 or 7. that doesn't last long because on bouts of wet on sunday further bouts of wet and increasingly windy weather move through. it's a showery day on sunday at first, but the rain turning more persistent later and the winds really picking up dunng and the winds really picking up during the afternoon and evening as stormy arrives . as stormy arrives. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers spot answers of up. boxt boilers spot answers of weather on gb news .

>> good afternoon . it's 4 pm. >> good afternoon. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news, broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk. i'm across it now to a press conference on the police about the baby that was found earlier in . london. hello. in. london. hello. >> it's only just to flag the police in there. >> doctors hospital to complete kulturspeicher .

kulturspeicher. >> we're about to go live to a press conference here. you can see an officer . this press conference here. you can see an officer. this is newham in east london. a very concerning case. earlier on today, a baby was found in a plastic bag . okay. um, and they plastic bag. okay. um, and they are about to go. here we are, superintendent simon crick. >> i am the lead for policing in newham. last night we were called by a member of the public out walking their dog, who had discovered a newborn baby in a shopping bag at the junction of greenway and high street, south east ham , essex. east ham, essex. >> thinking fast, that person kept the baby girl warm until london ambulance service paramedics arrived and checked her over before taking her to hospital . hospital. >> i'm delighted to report that she wasn't injured in any way and is safe and well in the care of hospital staff. they have given her a temporary name, elsa . we believe she's a black or mixed race child . i am extremely mixed race child. i am extremely grateful to the members of the

pubuc grateful to the members of the public who stayed at the scene to speak with officers and medics. your actions contributed to saving elsa's life . we to saving elsa's life. we believe elsa to have been less than an hour old when she was found . we do not yet know how found. we do not yet know how long she had been there. when she was found , our thoughts now she was found, our thoughts now turn to the baby's mother . we turn to the baby's mother. we are extremely concerned for her welfare as she will have been through a traumatic ordeal and will be in need of immediate medical attention following the birth . trained medics and birth. trained medics and specialist officers are ready to support her and we urge her to get in touch by phone or walk into the nearest hospital or police station. if you are the baby's mother , please know that baby's mother, please know that your daughter is well. no matter what your circumstances . please what your circumstances. please do seek help by dialling 999. thank you . if there's any cctv

thank you. if there's any cctv exist , kwasi kwarteng thank you. if there's any cctv exist, kwasi kwarteng bbc thank you. if there's any cctv exist , kwasi kwarteng bbc news. exist, kwasi kwarteng bbc news. >> uh , potentially. >> uh, potentially. >> uh, potentially. >> that's subject to an investigation at the moment and that's all i can really say at this time. how can our viewers help you in terms of dashcam ? so help you in terms of dashcam? so if anybody did see anything suspicious last night at the roundabout at 915, i believe it was then please get in touch with or contact 999. um, and give us their details. thanks can i ask, is the mother known to you? >> so, uh, not at this stage. >> so, uh, not at this stage. >> i don't know that detail. >> i don't know that detail. >> how did they keep the baby warm ? the people that found the baby. >> i believe there was some, uh, blankets, uh, left with the child. so i think that's how they were kept warm. extremely cold last night. as you know, it was about minus four last night, so. yeah when you said the passer by kept the baby warm, how did they do that ? well, how did they do that? well, there was a question they've just asked. um, i think just been asked. um, i think there was some blankets with the bag. baby was in bag. i think the baby was in that, that bag with the that, in that bag with the blankets. and that's how they

managed the member blankets. and that's how they m'the|ed the member blankets. and that's how they m'the public the member blankets. and that's how they m'the public wrapped he member blankets. and that's how they m'the public wrapped the nember blankets. and that's how they m'the public wrapped the babyer of the public wrapped the baby up and it up in the blankets and held it to their chest. i don't to their chest. i would, i don't know, i assume they kept know, i would assume they kept them somewhere like that. them warm somewhere like that. yes. fair to say the yes. uh is it fair to say the fact was found, fact that she was found, we think, the corner potentially think, on the corner potentially just rather than just having found rather than deep.i just having found rather than deep. i can't say that again. sorry she was sorry the fact that she was found a busy junction. found on quite a busy junction. >> to be found rather than >> yeah. to be found rather than deepin >> yeah. to be found rather than deep in populated, i would suggest but that's speculation. obviously . is it just like, >> obviously. is it just like, um, her name's there . um, her name's there. >> how is she? >> how is she? >> assume i don't know, >> i assume i don't know, i presume that hospital staff presume that was hospital staff who are now looking after her and safe. and keeping her safe. >> and she's well, she's she's well thank you. >> yes. thank you. >> yes. thank you. >> casting effect. >> no casting effect. >> no casting effect. >> not i'm aware of. >> not that i'm aware of. no, i think she was found reasonably, reasonably is reasonably quickly, which is which is a blessing. obviously, reasonably quickly, which is wiwas is a blessing. obviously, reasonably quickly, which is wiwas extremelyng. obviously, reasonably quickly, which is wiwas extremelyng. clastusly, it was extremely cold last night. there any clarity it was extremely cold last nigthe there any clarity it was extremely cold last nigthe identityere any clarity it was extremely cold last nigthe identity of any clarity it was extremely cold last nigthe identity of this clarity it was extremely cold last nigthe identity of this dog ty on the identity of this dog walker? >> is it a man? >> woman? >> is it a man? >> i woman? >> is it a man? >> i can'twoman? >> is it a man? >> i can't go nan? >> is it a man? >> i can't go into�* >> is it a man? >> i can't go into those details at stage. at this stage. >> was it them waiting with >> was it just them waiting with her was it passers by as well? >> was it just i don't know. >> was it just i don't know. >> all i know that it was, um. she was found by a member of the public. did the call come

public. so did the call come into london into police first or london ambulance got ambulance service? i haven't got that sir. have that detail. sorry, sir. have you got the spelling of . her? you got the spelling of. her? elsa. thank you. thank you. >> was that inspired by frozen ? >> was that inspired by frozen? >> was that inspired by frozen? >> could well have been. could well have been. thank you. any further questions? do you know anything more about the mother or know ? well, we're trying to or know? well, we're trying to locate mum . um, obviously , we're locate mum. um, obviously, we're trying to come forward to make sure she's okay. and that's now as our primary concern . we've as our primary concern. we've got the child is safe and well, we now need to make sure mum is safe. do you believe she's a low key really don't know. key person? i really don't know. i know. you said i really don't know. you said the baby was than an hour old. >> so you think that the baby was for less an hour was here for less than an hour on street? was here for less than an hour on we street? was here for less than an hour on we believe so, yes. yeah has >> we believe so, yes. yeah has anyone been in touch? >> who thinks that they might be relative? maybe not. >> at this stage. i'm aware of no . >> at this stage. i'm aware of no. have >> at this stage. i'm aware of no . have uncovered any no. have you uncovered any footage a woman carrying a footage of a woman carrying a bag near here? no, not at this stage. that i'm aware of . if the

stage. that i'm aware of. if the babyis stage. that i'm aware of. if the baby is under an hour for. >> do you have any indication of where they would have been if the baby's also there? >> an hour old? so that >> under an hour old? so that narrow down where they might have been born? >> no, not at this stage. >> no, not at this stage. >> no, not at this stage. >> no, i can't, i can't comment at all about where the baby was born. um, really can't in this born. um, i really can't in this hospital just on that. >> i don't know which hospital they're at at the moment. i assume it's local. >> other than the shopping >> was other than the shopping bag the left with bag was the baby left with anything and what was the anything else and what was the baby wearing or was it i don't know what the baby was wearing. uh, was as far i'm uh, there was as far as i'm aware, was a bag with some aware, there was a bag with some blankets in the bag . blankets in the bag. >> or anything like that. >> not that aware of. >> not that i'm aware of. so could reiterate on the could you just reiterate on the details on the ethnicity, please ? uh, yeah. i believe she is a black or mixed race child. did the dog walker sort of spot any movement in the bag? >> what sort of fruit? >> what sort of fruit? >> i believe the dog walker heard the child crying, which is what alerted them to the heard the child crying. that's the child crying. yes that's correct. a photo release. correct. yeah a photo release. >> so, uh, that's a matter for

the investigating officer at the relevant and if want relevant time. and so if we want a in order to put a photo today in order to put out this appeal, would we be able to get that today? is that maybe a question for you? able to get that today? is that maybe i question for you? able to get that today? is that maybe i don'tion for you? able to get that today? is that maybe i don'tion forjthink >> uh, i don't i don't think at this no, uh, my this stage, no, uh, my information is that that's not going at this going to be released at this time. okay time. thank you. okay >> is there any indication from the council that they'll support >> is there any indication from the mother that they'll support >> is there any indication from the mother that ticomes upport >> is there any indication from the mother that ticomes forward? the mother if she comes forward? you anything? >> of course. absolutely. anything? >> i of course. absolutely. anything? >> i reiteratee. absolutely. anything? >> i reiterate the)solutely. anything? >> i reiterate the fact |tely. anything? >> i reiterate the fact that, yeah. i reiterate the fact that, um, to make sure um, we just want to make sure mum's okay and there's lots of support waiting for her when she comes . comes forward. thank you. >> so, do you know how old the mother is all? mother is at all? >> i know who the mother >> i don't know who the mother is. so i couldn't tell you. so you said that the baby is safe, but concerned for the but you're concerned for the mother's welfare. >> well , i mother's welfare. >> well, i think, um, a child's been born. >> um, we don't know where mum is. um and we just need to make sure that mum's okay following birth. yes okay . thank you very much. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> thank you, thank you, thank you very much indeed, sir. just off camera. sorry. >> i was also asking question.

>> i was also asking a question. i didn't want to ask you i really didn't want to ask you on camera. >> thank for your time, by >> thank you for your time, by the a question the way. um, so it's a question from, um, apparently there have been few of these incidents been a few of these incidents over been a few of these incidents ove now, from previous >> now, i know from previous employment that it's not that unusual. >> baby was found in a plastic bag by dog walker. baby bag by a dog walker. the baby less hour old. the baby less than one hour old. the baby was in blankets . was crying, wrapped in blankets. dog walker found young dog walker found that young baby, a young black or mixed race girl, temporarily named elsa . um, in race girl, temporarily named elsa. um, in good race girl, temporarily named elsa . um, in good health, was elsa. um, in good health, was crying. um, thoughts to now to the baby's mother. an appeal for the baby's mother. an appeal for the mother . the baby's mother. an appeal for the mother. um, the baby's mother. an appeal for the mother . um, chief the mother. um, chief superintendent simon crick there saying appealing to the baby's mother to come forward and said, your baby is well, you also said it was minus four degrees and it was night time. astonishing story that the baby survived almost miracle . the baby is almost miracle. the baby is well, elsa , your baby is well . well, elsa, your baby is well. wow. so the mother now the appealis wow. so the mother now the appeal is for the mother to come forward. the circumstances around why the mother dropped

the baby. there will come in time, i guess. but for now, elsa less than one year old is safe and well, less than one hour. amazing story . okay, moving on amazing story. okay, moving on now to the government's battle to get the rwanda bill through the house of lords and peers are already lining up to say they'll try to block it . yesterday, try to block it. yesterday, rishi sunak urged the laws to do the right thing and not frustrate the will of the people by passing the bill. with echoes of brexit there. but it's already been reported that a former labour minister is leading a group of lords who want to delay it , leading a group of lords who want to delay it, and liberal democrat life peer lord roberts has tweeted this. i'm 88, i've beenin has tweeted this. i'm 88, i've been in politics for over 70 years. the rwanda bill is one of the biggest issues we've ever faced because on the back of it will be determined whether the uk is as an is an open, inclusive and progressive country or or a country that

panders to the will of the reaction . every far right wing. reaction. every far right wing. well, i'm joined in the studio now by the labour mp for birmingham, perry barr, khalid mahmood khalife . thanks for mahmood khalife. thanks for joining us again. brexit mk2. it very much feels like, of course, brexit was frustrated in the house of lords for a long time . house of lords for a long time. almost brought it all down and here we are again. lord roberts, liberal democrat . they're saying liberal democrat. they're saying he intends to set about it and a report this morning a labour peen report this morning a labour peer, lord goldsmith, who was tony blair's attorney general dunng tony blair's attorney general during the iraq war, saying it should not be ratified, it should not be ratified, it should be delayed. the lords are leaping on it and labour are leading the charge to try and stop this bill getting through. >> well, we voted against the third reading, so therefore our position is that we're not happy with it. >> our position in terms of spending £400 million on this scheme, which has got no, uh, take up at the moment at all. >> my friend and colleague jess

phillips from uh, uh, birmingham , uh, uh, raised the point of the issue. >> the amount of young women that have been raped, what cost it would have cost them to support them , rather than trying support them, rather than trying to people . there are to stop these people. there are people need sort of people who need these sort of money. of the hotels, money. and on top of the hotels, the £5 billion that we got, another almost half £1 billion coming out here, this is not the way to deal with immigration by throwing money at it. we're going to have a consistent plan to deal with it. and that's what the labour party intends to do. >> you agree with >> well, whether you agree with the plan or not, and we can all agree we should be spending money agree money elsewhere. we agree on that. of matter is, that. the fact of the matter is, in instance, it's about the in this instance, it's about the house lords being used as house of lords being used as a way blocking a parliamentary way of blocking a parliamentary bill that, you voted for bill that, whether you voted for it not, has through. and it or not, has gone through. and now the laws will in and no now the laws will come in and no doubt tinkering with it. doubt start tinkering with it. and that's being led by labour. and that's being led by labour. and it will make people and it will it will make people believe the of believe again that the house of lords there frustrate lords is there to frustrate the will people . will of the people. >> well, no house of lords is

there constitutionally to be the amending chamber. lord goldsmith is a recognised , uh, barrister. is a recognised, uh, barrister. uh, he's a hugely knowledgeable person in terms of british law , person in terms of british law, and he wants to make those points clear , going down a path points clear, going down a path which takes away our ability of being that international, uh, community which accepts international law and derogating from that human rights, particularly, uh, is not for best for britain to do that. i think there are other ways of deaung think there are other ways of dealing with this, but we need to be clear on which we're spending what the international cost in terms of our prestige as people who supported and made laws internationally and not being put down the way they are at the moment. >> but people will be feeling, i mean , here's here's a guy i used mean, here's here's a guy i used to work for, tony blair, saying that should be delayed. that this should be delayed. they've made their mind they've they've made their mind up before the vote goes ahead. and so therefore it will go round and round round and of round and round and round and of course, the longer this goes on, round and round and round and of cou nearere longer this goes on, round and round and round and of cou nearere l0|get this goes on, round and round and round and of

cou nearere l0|get to is goes on, round and round and round and of cou nearere l0|get to better; on, the nearer we get to better conditions for more crossings. therefore boats will come therefore more boats will come across, therefore more political damage will inflicted upon damage will be inflicted upon rishi sunak. that's why people are this. this are thinking this. this empowerment of the lords against the bill just feels like purely playing politics. the damage the conservatives by labour and lib dem peers and of course in the lords, the conservatives have a minority. well, look, martin, you've got, uh, 50,000 people who crossed last year . who crossed last year. >> uh, you've got less people at the moment. and let's hope it stays lower , uh, enough to be stays lower, uh, enough to be able to deal with this. but you've almost three quarters you've had almost three quarters of million people coming in, of a million people coming in, uh, who through legal uh, who came through the legal routes went to look at routes and went to look at assess of what our economy is like and how deal with that. assess of what our economy is like a|are|ow deal with that. assess of what our economy is like a|are ways deal with that. assess of what our economy is like a|are ways oeral with that. assess of what our economy is like a|are ways of dealing that. assess of what our economy is like a|are ways of dealing with. there are ways of dealing with people coming on boats people coming through on boats and one of the key things at the moment, is doing is moment, what europe is doing is getting at moment, what europe is doing is gettithey at moment, what europe is doing is gettithey can at moment, what europe is doing is gettithey can stop at moment, what europe is doing is gettithey can stop people at moment, what europe is doing is gettithey can stop people coming how they can stop people coming through. ahead , through. if that goes ahead, where they contribute financially to keeping these people bay out of europe. and people at bay out of europe. and i think one of the things that we should do, rather than

spending money on rwanda, is work with our european neighbours that neighbours and try and do that and stop people coming across in the boats. >> trouble that, >> the trouble with that, though, any form though, khalid is doing any form of european um, of deal with european union, um, would reciprocal deal . would mean a reciprocal deal. there's talk that would mean a reciprocal deal. therwould talk that would mean a reciprocal deal. therwould mean talk that would mean a reciprocal deal. therwould mean 100,000 :hat would mean a reciprocal deal. therwould mean 100,000 oft would mean a reciprocal deal. therwould mean 100,000 of the that would mean 100,000 of the illegal immigrants who got into eu member states being shoved our way . any form deal with our way. any form of deal with brussels would have net impact brussels would have a net impact on increasing immigration to the uk . so surely that's not what uk. so surely that's not what people want . people want. >> i don't think the deal actually increases people. what they're people they're saying is new people coming will be stopped coming coming in will be stopped coming through, thing through, which is the key thing that to do. also that we want to do. and also what to do is have what we need to do is have a better deal with france. i've better deal with france. as i've said before, uh, we said many times before, uh, we need look how we stop , how need to look at how we stop, how we look. >> billion quid. >> billion quid. >> well, exactly. but we >> well, exactly. but what we need is , like sir keir need to do is, like sir keir starmer said, we have need to have our border forces , uh, and starmer said, we have need to hav people )rder forces , uh, and starmer said, we have need to hav people onzr forces , uh, and starmer said, we have need to hav people on the, 'ces , uh, and starmer said, we have need to hav people on the, on , uh, and starmer said, we have need to hav people on the, on the 1, and starmer said, we have need to hav people on the, on the shores our people on the, on the shores there working properly with them. once people get into water, it's very difficult area, uh, to try and pull them back and for, for, for the sake of the fact that their lives could

be in jeopardy. so what we have to do is stop getting them onto those there a certain those boats. there is a certain amount uh, of the amount of, uh, mileage of the coast they can get through. why would the french. >> want those boats >> why don't we want those boats leaving? want. leaving? they don't want. we don't illegals stay don't want the illegals to stay in either, do they? >> well, the fact is, they're coming through their country and they've to they've already agreed to do a deal with us. what we need to do is enforce it properly. martin is enforce it properly. martin is ensure that have the is to ensure that we have the right there. our right people there. we have our own there. working own people there. we're working with the french forces, the french. proper french. we are proper surveillance. we've stopped british we've stopped british boots, we've stopped french, we've stopped well, in agreement that's agreement they can. and that's what we're keir starmer is what we're sir keir starmer is looking you'd like to do that? >> british boots on the ground in calais. >> british boots on the ground in (yeah, not? because >> yeah, well why not? because we're a joint venture. we're doing a joint venture. what to a joint what we want to do is a joint venture where it affects us. so we that. we need to we need to do that. we need to have surveillance across have proper surveillance across the that piece of the the whole of that piece of the coast need to do. we coast that we need to do. we used have surveillance. used to have surveillance. it was theresa may when was cut by mrs. theresa may when she stopped all the surveillance planes that we had doing that. we get that. we need to we need to get that. we need to as soon as we see people are mounting onto beaches, we

mounting onto the beaches, we need quickly with need to get there quickly with the people that are on the force to through. and to stop them coming through. and there's that. to stop them coming through. and the all that. to stop them coming through. and the all right, that. to stop them coming through. and the all right, let's that. to stop them coming through. and the all right, let's move1at. to stop them coming through. and the all right, let's move on. >> all right, let's move on. carrie to steel. very, very carrie to tata steel. very, very sad port talbot sad situation. port talbot today. thousands and thousands of , up being lost of jobs, up to 3000 being lost for generations of steel production and our man liam halligan has been on the ground. he spoke to union people. he's spoken to workers, spoken to locals. and there's huge, huge locals. and there's a huge, huge feeling the british steel feeling that the british steel industry, has industry, what's left of it, has been surrendered been absolutely surrendered on the of net zero. we'll the altar of net zero. we'll still have to import steel from china. we can use an arc furnace. it's not as good as virgin steel. and basically port talbot has been outmoded because of punitive net zero policies and policies which net zero keir starmer is fully on board with. here is a labour ran country, a labour ran constituency where we're losing manufacturing jobs. the working class has once again thrown to the dogs and there's no way out of it because we're enslave to green policies. well, no , i think first of all, we no, i think first of all, we have to take responsibility.

>> it is the rishi sunak and the conservatives that are in government moment. i government at the moment. i fully our british steel fully support our british steel industry. i grew up in british industry. i grew up in british industry and i had an apprenticeship there and came through. i worked in foundries. i understand the issues that are there by moving to this. i think it's an escape tactic by tata. i think we should hold their feet to the fire in those furnaces, and think should the and i think we should make the responsible for money that responsible for the money that they've and run with they've had and not run off with they've had and not run off with the that they've already they've had and not run off with the and that they've already they've had and not run off with the and tifromiey've already they've had and not run off with the and tifrom the e already they've had and not run off with the and tifrom the government . got and had from the government. >> but the political direction of is against blast of travel is against blast furnaces because of the pollution an and recycling steel with arc furnaces. that's what you're all we want. >> but all we're doing at the moment no i think what we want is certainly want is is we want i certainly want is british steel industry. a british steel industry. it's a national interest component. we have defence contracts . we have have defence contracts. we have all sorts of construction. we have of work that we have all sorts of work that we need. steel for. why can't we produce that here? and this is i am industry am sick of our industry being shoved abroad saying, oh, you can't because it has, can't do this because it has, uh, in our environmental factor,

we talk about green engineering, engineering is engineering. so you're going to have to weld thing. you're going to have to make things. you're going to have to fabricate things. that's what engineering is about. so whether up green what engineering is about. so wiyellow, up green what engineering is about. so wiyellow, it up green what engineering is about. so wiyellow, it doesn't up green what engineering is about. so wiyellow, it doesn't really green or yellow, it doesn't really matter. industry. we matter. it is industry. and we want to extend our industry like everybody ensure that everybody else is to ensure that we our we serve the needs of our population. superb. we serve the needs of our popkhalidi. superb. we serve the needs of our popkhalid mahmood, you've had >> khalid mahmood, you've had your thanks your weetabix superb. so thanks for the studio. forjoining us in the studio. now let's more story now let's get more on that story i spoke about carly i just spoke about with carly steel tata has confirmed steel giant, tata has confirmed plans close blast furnaces on plans to close blast furnaces on its talbot site in south its port talbot site in south wales, impacting up to 2800 jobs. liam halligan gb news, economics and business editor, has been at the southwest wales steelworks today talking about what this means for british steel workers and the future of the industry . the industry. >> well, to the local workforce, you're talking about. >> well, to the local workforce, you're talking about . 2500 jobs you're talking about. 2500 jobs are around that number of tata employees. but you can multiply that four times for the contractor community and the people downstream and upstream from the business who rely on

it. and that's without going into the local community and into the local community and into the local community and into the shops and the local economy within port talbot . economy within port talbot. >> what do you think people here locally think of the so—called push for net zero. do they feel it's a moral imperative? >> i think there are a lot of people within the works understand it and understand we got to move in this direction. but kid yourself . this is but don't kid yourself. this is nothing to do with zero. nothing to do with net zero. this is purely fact that this is purely the fact that tata are not prepared support tata are not prepared to support this works. they've they've over a period of time, they've supported the european operation. uh, we've had all our orders sent over to ireland and all the profit have been made in ireland. and we've had to take whatever dregs are left. unfortunately, that means lack of investment. and that's why we're in a state in port talbot. we are now well , there we go. we are now well, there we go. >> and britain has a long and proud history, of course, of steel making for many, many generations . but with closures generations. but with closures of coal power, blast furnaces and port talbot and also

scunthorpe steelworks confirming a similar fate, we're asking , is a similar fate, we're asking, is it time to renationalise british steel? well joining me now is charlie rowley, commentator and former special adviser to michael gove. charlie, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. a sad state of affairs charlie in port talbot, tata steel winding down thousands of jobs being lost with echoes of the coal mining communities where i come from, a lot of people saying we should be supporting british steel as a strategic national interest to make sure we're not dependent on countries like china and russia. charlie, is the answer to renationalise steel or at least for the state to support it . to support it. >> well , good afternoon, martin, >> well, good afternoon, martin, and thank you for having me. >> in answer directly to that question, i'm not entirely sure it is because, as you rightly said, at the top of your introduction, there you has a very, very proud and long history of steel making in the

uk . uk. >> that should be something . >> that should be something. >> that should be something. >> as a leader in this particular industry, to attract outside investment. >> it's always been an attraction . and to investors , so attraction. and to investors, so you would hope that that can continue . so the issue i think continue. so the issue i think with tata steel is that it has been not for the first time we've seen them in financial difficulty. i remember some years ago they needed a financial package to bail them out. >> and with the, uh, emergence of new technology, uh, greener technology, uh, moving from the blast furnaces, as you were talking about, to more electronic ones, which does require a fewer number of individuals , uh, people, bodies individuals, uh, people, bodies on the ground . on the ground. >> uh, you have to make sure that you have the innovation and the investment to move with the times more energy efficient. >> um, as well as more productive. now that will come as no surprise to anybody, but what you have to make sure of is that that anybody that is losing their job, that that anybody that is losing theirjob, uh, is looked after. that anybody that is losing their job that anybody that is losing theirjob can be retrained.

reskilled uh, that it is not something where people are just left, at the end of it. so left, uh, at the end of it. so it's a combination of making sure that you have the investment in the steel industry sure that you have the investyout in the steel industry sure that you have the investyou have1e steel industry sure that you have the investyou have it steel industry sure that you have the investyou have it oneel industry sure that you have the investyou have it on a. industry , that you have it on a sustainable footing, that it moves to become more energy efficient workforce is efficient and the workforce is not industry, but not just in this industry, but any future are any others in the future are obviously, after, obviously, well looked after, well able to use well trained and able to use their find an their skills to find an alternative work . alternative methods of work. >> ulez though charlie , those >> ulez though charlie, those alternative methods of work don't exist in that area . they don't exist in that area. they didn't exist in the coal belts when maggie thatcher finally wound the pits down across the country , there was nothing for country, there was nothing for those people. so that's my point. my point is, if we can state subsidies and industry with key strategic national importance, it's not like making fridges. making steel is the backbone of building in britain. and we're importing that from countries where they burn coking coal. anyway, the pollution is simply offshored and we're offshoring our guilt by moving this overseas. but we're devastating british jobs. therefore, we could some money

in from the state to make sure we stay sovereign and we keep those jobs flowing . we those jobs flowing. we >> well, i think you make a very powerful case. and it may be that actually , you know, people that actually, you know, people who might be losing their jobs who might be losing theirjobs in the steel sector, as i say, could be retrained and redeployed to for, uh, you know, the energy market and where we're energy we're becoming more energy efficient. absolutely efficient. you're absolutely right. uk independent right. as an as a uk independent nafion right. as an as a uk independent nation be more nation, we need to be more self—sustainable . and self—sustainable. and particularly what we're particularly that's what we're doing and we're doing in energy and we're stopping reliance gas and stopping our reliance on gas and oil from russia for the obvious reasons as what's going on reasons as as to what's going on in ukraine and there and in ukraine and, and there and the wider geopolitical situation . so it will always be job opportunities created. and you can always retrain staff and workforce who've worked in big industry to move to perhaps another industry. but on this particular case where tata steel, as i say, has, you know, has fallen foul financially in the past , but has fallen foul financially in the past, but where it has fallen foul financially in the past , but where it clearly the past, but where it clearly isn't sustainable to just keep people hanging on into jobs where not be needed. people hanging on into jobs wiis'e not be needed. people hanging on into jobs wiis more not be needed. people hanging on into jobs wiis more and not be needed. people hanging on into jobs wiis more and far not be needed. people hanging on into jobs wiis more and far better, needed. it is more and far better, i think, for individuals for think, for individuals and for

the itself , to be able the industry itself, to be able to after the on to look after the industry on a sustainable footing and make sure that anybody is a sure that anybody that is in a job, providing them with job, it is providing them with all the skill, job, it is providing them with all the skill , with all of all of the skill, with all of the drive. uh that and outcome for them not just being in a job for them not just being in a job for a job's sake. >> okay. charlie rowley, thank you very much for joining us >> okay. charlie rowley, thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on the show. i don't know what you think out there. you know, let me vaiews@gbnews.com. me know. vaiews@gbnews.com. it just feels like, once again, working communities working class communities getting on. plan, no getting trampled on. no plan, no job replacement. this time it just feels like net zero is the cause. we're offshoring our industry. we're selling out abroad , and, uh, we're guilty. abroad, and, uh, we're guilty. we're self flagellating. we're not providing jobs for british people in communities like port talbot that depend on them and deserve them. prince harry deserve them. now prince harry is facing a huge legal bill after he dropped his libel claim against associated newspapers, the publisher of the mail on sunday. a juicy story on martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

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years. now prince harry is facing a massive legal bill after he dropped his high court libel claim against the publisher of the mail on sunday and to discuss this juicy story, i'm joined by our royal correspondent, cameron walker. cameron, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. now then, this is not only a sensational u—turn, but one that could be very, very expensive for prince harry. >> yeah, it looks like prince harry has given up on his battle against associated newspapers. or at least his libel claim against associated newspapers . against associated newspapers. this is all about an article written in the mail on sunday. a couple of years ago about prince harry's separate lawsuits against the home office. now, um , prince harry said the associated newspapers the mail on sunday article was basically alleging that prince harry was trying to spin the narrative and manipulate the public to make him seem like he in a better

him seem like he was in a better light by using his pr team , uh, light by using his pr team, uh, to spin the narrative and brief journalists. a certain , uh, journalists. a certain, uh, narrative of the story. prince harry hit back and he said that that it was an attack on his honesty and integrity and would undermine his charity work and efforts to tackle misinformation online. he then sued associated newspapers for libel. they contested the claim and said that it was an it was honest opinion and did not cause serious harm to prince harry's reputation. now, prince harry's lawyers were so convinced that they would be able to win this case against the publisher of the mail on sunday that they asked the judge just to make a simple ruling, rather than it going to a full blown trial. well, the judge disagreed and said that the mail on sunday had a real prospect of successfully showing at trial that previous prince harry press statements, i.e. statements from his pr team, provided a and i quote, misleading description of his case against the home office.

now today, prince harry's lawyers were due to submit article or letters or legal documents to be used in this trial , but they decided documents to be used in this trial, but they decided against it and they have dropped the case altogether . so what happens case altogether. so what happens now? well there could be a very hefty legal bill, £250,000 worth of associated newspapers court costs, plus his own court costs could take the total bill to around three quarters of £1 million. yeah an expensive bill and an expensive game of bluff . and an expensive game of bluff. >> drop the case. no, they've got a real prospect. and now he's dropped the case and he's going to be out of pocket. and of course, cameron, not the only legal case harry is facing . legal case harry is facing. >> yeah, he has a number of high court cases still going through the judicial here in the the judicial system here in the uk . two cases, one against the uk. two cases, one against the publisher of the sun newspaper and one against publisher of the mail. again about alleged unlawful information gathering. those two newspapers groups have always denied the allegations made against them . and, of

made against them. and, of course, his ongoing case against the home office as well. over their decision to not provide him the same of him with the same degree of police protection since he stepped back as a working member of family. so the he's of the royal family. so the he's given up on this battle, but he's not up on he's certainly not given up on the them . the rest of them. >> okay. thank you, cameron walker, royal update . walker, for that royal update. now there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00 and a few minutes i'll hear from the chair of the social workers union the tragic case of two union on the tragic case of two year old bronson battersbee . but year old bronson battersbee. but first, here's your latest news headunes first, here's your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> martin, thank your top stories from the gb newsroom. tata steel has confirmed up to 2008 hundred jobs will be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot site, the cuts will be made over the next 18 months as the company transitions to a greener way of working . the unite union way of working. the unite union says it's ready to use

everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry . the protect staff and defend the industry. the neighbour of a father and son who were found deadin father and son who were found dead in skegness , has told gb dead in skegness, has told gb news they looked like a happy family. two year old bronson battersby was found next to the body of his dad kenneth, who suffered a fatal heart attack. they were last seen alive on boxing day by sheriff ross in her first television interview, she told gb news she wasn't aware of anything suspicious . aware of anything suspicious. police say a newborn baby was less than an hour old when she was found in a shopping bag in east london. the child, who's been named as elsa , was been named as elsa, was discovered wrapped in a towel by a dog walker in newham . a dog walker in newham. uninjured, she is said to be black or of mixed race. efforts are now being made to find the little girl's mother. >> we are extremely concerned for her welfare as she will have been through a traumatic ordeal

and will be in need of immediate medical attention following the birth . trained medics and birth. trained medics and specialist officers are ready to support her and we urge her to get in touch by phone or walk into the nearest hospital or police station . police station. >> some breaking news to bring you in the last few moments, the four people found dead at a house near norwich were two young girls, a 45 year old man and a 36 year old woman, all from the same family. norfolk police has launched an investigation following the discovery in costessey this morning. detectives say at this stage it's being treated as an isolated incident . you can get isolated incident. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , gbnews.com visiting our website, gbnews.com i >> -- >> thank emma >> thank you. tatiana now, the sister of bronson battersbee , sister of bronson battersbee, the two year old who was starved to death after his father

suffered a fatal heart attack , suffered a fatal heart attack, has said that she does not blame the police or social services for the toddler's death. melanie battersbee said they did what they could within the powers that they had , and it comes as that they had, and it comes as the independent office for police conduct says they will start an investigation on whether there were any missed opportunities to save bronson and his dad. well, let's now get the thoughts of the chair of the social workers union, dave callow . dave, welcome to the callow. dave, welcome to the show. a tragic case, one that's made a lot of us do a lot of soul searching . and the role, of soul searching. and the role, of course, of the social services always brought into view in these instances. but clarity there from bronson, sister , she there from bronson, sister, she doesn't hold the social services to blame and often you do get the blame in this instance . not the blame in this instance. not fair to have done so . fair to have done so. >> yeah. thank you. i'll just just start by saying the social workers union, we extend our hearts, our thoughts and feelings are with the family of

bronson and kenneth. and, uh , so bronson and kenneth. and, uh, so it's a very difficult time. and i do hope that everyone who's involved is affected by this is able to get the support they need, or somebody to talk to at least. but as , um, you know, as least. but as, um, you know, as you raised there, there is so much , um, good that happens in much, um, good that happens in social work and there's so many social work and there's so many social workers working around the to , to maintain, the clock, uh, to, to maintain, you know, keep people safe, uh, to improve the quality of chances of people and improve the quality life people. the quality of life of people. >> and tend to hear >> and we don't tend to hear that very often. so, um, i do i do appreciate that point that was . was made. >> dave , often social >> and dave, often social services are just another point of contact in a britain that feels increasingly broken when we look at places like skegness , we look at places like skegness, often ravaged by joblessness , by often ravaged by joblessness, by addiction , by a lack of purpose addiction, by a lack of purpose and a lot of drug addiction in the area to people moved in from outside the area. seaside towns often become dumping grounds for social problems and of course , social problems and of course, social problems and of course,

social workers are on the front line of having to put that right. how much of a kind of symptom do you think bronson batus tragic death is of this broader social breakdown we're seeing in modern britain ? seeing in modern britain? >> i'd like to say yes. >> i'd like to say yes. >> seaside towns, i mean, they they are left behind. >> i think we've had 15, practically 15 years of austerity now . austerity now. >> so i think, uh, um, they are, um, i wouldn't call them dumping grounds necessarily, but i would say that they are they are towns that are forgotten and left behind and social workers are working um, know, really working on, um, you know, really , really trying their best to, uh, you know, ensure the voices of, of people heard . but we of, of people are heard. but we are talking about a service , and are talking about a service, and we see this in the social workers union that is a social workers union that is a social work is a service like no other. and are underfunded, under and we are underfunded, under pressure , overworked and it's pressure, overworked and it's not really much positive news that comes out about social work. you don't see it. you don't see it modelled on tv very

often. um, but drugs are kind of , uh, the silent heroes that are working in the background. i would, i would say no. >> i think many people would agree with that. and too often the police, the social workers , the police, the social workers, you know, get shouldered with all the blame. but we have to ask ourselves bigger questions, more difficult questions. sometimes about parenting, about about missed opportunities, about missed opportunities, about broken communities. about missed opportunities, about broken communities . what's about broken communities. what's the morale like within your industry at the moment, dave? and what do you want to be? what do you want to be done about all this ? this? >> i would say the morale is, uh, is very mixed and i've had lots of contact as a union. >> we have lots of contact with social workers. we are see, we represent social workers. >> we are social workers. >> we are social workers. >> um, there a lot of >> um, there is there's a lot of despondent workers , social despondent workers, social workers out there. but social workers, being the people they are, they they have to believe that there is a better way. otherwise, what going otherwise, what are you going to a where a profession where you are constantly fighting against the system that maybe doesn't value

social so so we are it social justice? so so we are it does come down to a lot of things. it comes down to investment. it how do we recruit social workers ? i mean, more social workers? i mean, more social workers? i mean, more social workers. we have better the is um, it is social the system is um, it is social work is constantly underfunded andifs work is constantly underfunded and it's not it doesn't feel very valued. i mean, you speak to the average social worker and i don't believe they feel, uh, necessarily , uh, welcomed the necessarily, uh, welcomed by the government , um, nationally . government or, um, nationally. um, so it has to start with funding. and there are many recommendations. the british association of social workers and social workers union have put together to the government, calling upon the government to look at how fund social work look at how we fund social work and severity of what's and the severity of what's lacking and what's missing, because people will slip through those cracks . those cracks. >> okay, dave callow, chair of the social workers union, thank you very much for joining us the social workers union, thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on the show , and let's hope we can the show, and let's hope we can learn some from this learn some lessons from this tragic case. poor old bronson battersby . now to our interview battersby. now to our interview with the leader of reform, richard tice , our political

richard tice, our political edhon richard tice, our political editor, christopher hope, sat down with tice earlier to discuss a number of big issues, including whether the tory mps could defect to reform and if he's just keeping the seat warm before that man, nigel farage becomes the party leader. but christopher started by asking how reform would stop the small boats. we've got a six point plan, but the two key components is we've got to leave the european convention on human rights. >> i'd like a referendum on that. we'd win it hands down. the country is sick and tired of foreign overseas telling foreign judges overseas telling us a sovereign, independent nafion us a sovereign, independent nation . nation. >> they're judges in a court in strasbourg, which sign up to. strasbourg, which we sign up to. it make a foreign strasbourg, which we sign up to. it or make a foreign strasbourg, which we sign up to. it or a make a foreign strasbourg, which we sign up to. it or a foreign a foreign strasbourg, which we sign up to. it or a foreign judge. gn court or a foreign judge. >> it is a foreign court because it's in the united kingdom. it's not in the united kingdom. that definition that is literally the definition of they are of foreign, chris. and they are judges that makes judges from overseas that makes them all right. and them foreign. all right. and we're nation. >> pulling the echr, >> then pulling out the echr, that's point. that's the first point. >> the point is you've >> the second point is you've got do what you know works. got to do what you know works. it we need it works in australia. we need in in the english channel, it works in australia. we need in need the english channel, it works in australia. we need in need toe english channel, it works in australia. we need in need to safelyish channel, it works in australia. we need in need to safely pickhannel, it works in australia. we need in need to safely pick people up we need to safely pick people up out dinghies into our

out of the dinghies into our border cutters instead border force cutters instead of the them instead of the bringing them instead of bringing you take bringing them to dover, you take them dunkirk and calais, them to dunkirk and calais, which entitled to you which we're entitled to do. you can't france. can't do returns with france. you're questions with the you're asking questions with the completely false premise here. the answer is we're entitled to do that under two international legal treaties that i have read, i know exactly the clauses and no one has disputed it. what you needis no one has disputed it. what you need is political courage and leadership that tony abbott showed in australia in 2013, he said he would stop the boats. he did it. he got some flak from the lefty lawyers and the international institutions. but here are, ten years later. here we are, ten years later. both main parties in australia carry out same policy and carry out the same policy and the stopped, which the boats stopped, which treaties? it's the 1974 solas safety of life at sea treaty and the second one is the 1982 un convention on the law at sea. under those treaties with proper, courageous leadership, we can safely pick up and take back to france . back to france. >> you're a seductive offer to people annoyed about the tory party looking at how they can't,

annoyed about how the country is being enough. being ruined. okay fair enough. the being ruined and the country is being ruined and so tory tory so labour and tory and tory supporters, what so labour and tory and tory suppcthe s, what so labour and tory and tory suppcthe country what so labour and tory and tory suppcthe country in what so labour and tory and tory suppcthe country in 2024, it so labour and tory and tory suppcthe country in 2024, and faces the country in 2024, and it's a serious risk. faces the country in 2024, and it's a serious risk . where are it's a serious risk. where are you going on the polls? you're up to 13% shortly. >> we're at 12% now. and a yougov we're heading yougov poll, we're heading north. what i think given given what we're hearing internally, i think within a few weeks we're very likely hit a 13. we're very likely to hit a 13. we're heading success breeds success. >> success. >> and tory mps are seeing this . >> and tory mps are seeing this. have you got a unit set up to attract them to join the reform party ? party? >> look, they know my number. >> look, they know my number. >> yes or no? is there a unit set up? >> well, actually, we need a unit because the truth is we're getting loads of applications from conservative from existing conservative councillors. ? quite a councillors. how many? quite a lot obviously we have lot actually. obviously we have to you know, we have to go through a vetting process and check and you know there's check them. and you know there's tactics there tactics involved here. but there are people the tory are many people in the tory party realise the party who realise that the game is they're toxic , the is up. they're toxic, the writing on the wall and writing is on the wall and people are saying, actually you stand for the philosophy of conservatism . and that's what

conservatism. and that's what that's what they're signing up to. >> and just finally, critics of you personally would say you're a nigel a placeholder for nigel farage. these supporting the these numbers supporting the party might because he's busy party might be because he's busy talking about politics more. are you a placeholder or are you the leader take the party leader to take the party into the election? the next election? >> so far in the last >> well, so far in the last three years, when people laughed at set up uk, at me when we set up reform uk, i can't remember if you did, but lots including lots of others did, including tory you're tory mps. they said, oh, you're you're ridiculous . three you're being ridiculous. three years i tell you, no tory years later, i tell you, no tory mps are laughing us now. mps are laughing at us now. >> was chris hope with >> and that was chris hope with richard echoes of richard tice earlier echoes of you're not laughing now. of course, that famous line nigel farage gave brussels this farage gave in brussels and this has really got you going at home. a couple of emails to what you out here. john says you read out here. john says this martin, the conservative party needs a kicking the party needs a kicking at the next general election because they their voters they have betrayed their voters like me, lifelong voters. john says five years of disaster with labouris says five years of disaster with labour is a necessary evil to get them back on track, and voting reform at the next election is the key. one quick email here from ann. if the

pubuc email here from ann. if the public read reforms manifesto, then they will see the intention of the party. it's well worth the read . try it. well, that one the read. try it. well, that one has certainly got you going. it's certainly got, um, richard, hope, richard and richard and christopher go in there. they had a good old ding dong, didn't they? been they? and peter have been saying, the job of gb saying, that's not the job of gb news. i would say that's the news. i would say that's not the case. the that we case. it is the case that we should be having robust debates like that makes like that. that is what makes a healthy channel. now. nato healthy tv channel. now. nato has warned we should be for prepared war with russia within the next years. but is that the next 20 years. but is that really case? top really the case? and a top official says people could be conscripted into the armed forces , but how on earth would forces, but how on earth would the kids of today deal with a bit of army? i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's

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the brink of an all out war or world war three? in fact? well that's the view of one top nato official who has said that civilians in the west must prepare for conflict with russia within 20 years. admiral rob bauer warned that large numbers of civilians will need to be mobilised as and when war breaks out , and mobilised as and when war breaks out, and governments should put systems in place to streamline that process . well, is that true that process. well, is that true or a load of old scaremongering? well, to discuss that, i'm now joined by former nato commander rear admiral chris parry. welcome to the show, chris. always a pleasure. so strong words here from , um, admiral rob words here from, um, admiral rob bauen words here from, um, admiral rob bauer, a dutch naval officer and the chairman of nato's military committee, saying that it's not a given that we're at peace and we must prepare for conflicts within 20 years with russia. is that true or is he scaremongering ? scaremongering? >> martin, we need to prepare for war with russia now. >> um, we've got a situation

where we've got an aggressive totalitarian regime that is invading ukraine. >> it's making threatening noises about the baltic states, sweden and finland for daring to join nato recently and if we don't mobilise our population and get our logistic base sorted out, we could find ourselves at war with russia within a year. >> i don't think it's 20 years. the other thing is we're facing a totalitarian bloc at the moment of russia, china , iran moment of russia, china, iran and north korea who are supplying each other. >> they're supporting each other militarily. >> they're regularly exercising. and if we don't wake up in the free world, we're going to find ourselves on the receiving end of some very serious military operations . operations. >> but the trouble with with that , um, >> but the trouble with with that, um, chris, is we have no armed forces worth talking about anywhere. or at least they're severely depleted . and, um, the severely depleted. and, um, the army has gone down from eight to 2000 to 73,000. that's the

smallest size since the napoleonic era. the raf has just 169 fighter planes, a 50% cut since the conservatives took office. the raf is now smaller than at any time since its creation. after the first world war. and as for the concept of mobilising the british public, most of them were probably complain that being forced to conscript was a hate crime . um, conscript was a hate crime. um, yeah , we've got a problem. yeah, we've got a problem. >> at the moment i'm afraid to say that successive governments , say that successive governments, uh, certainly during the time i was service since , was in the service and since, uh, have been treating the armed forces bit like a militarised forces a bit like a militarised bureaucracy . uh, they've just bureaucracy. uh, they've just been going through the motions. they haven't been concentrating on they've on capability. they've been distracted sorts of distracted by all sorts of social issues . and i'm afraid to social issues. and i'm afraid to say , um, we've been complacent, say, um, we've been complacent, uh, sitting under the protection of the united states and we've got to get real. i'm afraid we are back in the 1930s. we are facing fascist and communist regimes who wish to do us harm .

regimes who wish to do us harm. uh, and it's on the scale of hitler . and stalin and mao hitler. and stalin and mao tse—tung . uh, again. and i'm tse—tung. uh, again. and i'm afraid to say, until we see missiles landing in kent rather than in kyiv people aren't going to get the message. and i think the need to get back to national service is a very real possibility for a lot of european countries . european countries. >> well, and chris, of course, you mentioned america there and we have a big election coming up in november. and there's a very real prospect that donald trump could his second terms as could win his second terms as president. has been very president. trump has been very open about the fact he's no particular nato. he particular fan of nato. he thinks that america puts too much money in and that europe doesn't pull its weight. it is a part of nato's position today. so flag , saying, hey, so waving a flag, saying, hey, we're we're still here, we're important and they're concerned actually about what it might mean if trump gets in. >> there's no doubt that nato is the cornerstone of the freedom of the free world, but it's broader than that . now. we've broader than that. now. we've got to take in other countries like japan, south korea, australia for new zealand, and i

think india will come towards us in future. this is more than about nato. it's about american leadership of the free world, which i don't think trump is going abdicate to toe the going to abdicate to toe the truth. he he is trying to say to the europeans, look, we've spent 75% of what we spend on defence on, on nato . and when you on, on nato. and when you consider that really to get europe up to the same capability conventionally to face russia would take about 400 billion. well, you know , everybody needs well, you know, everybody needs to know that the american annual defence budget is 810 billion. so when we say, oh, we really can't afford it, we've got other things to spend it on. every american thinks, well, we're defending you and we are not building hospitals. we're not building hospitals. we're not building schools and other social programs to defend europe. and if you can't pull your weight we're going your weight, we're not going to come you . uh, the way come and help you. uh, the way i've described it in the past is that normally we form a coalition. america is the sheriff. we're the deputies. we go off and do the job, and we

come for and come back again for tea and medals . now, what america is medals. now, what america is saying if you don't actually saying is, if you don't actually invest in your own defence, we're not going to send the cavalry to help you. uh, and that's the real message for europe. now, you've got to start thinking you want to defend yourself . yourself. >> chris, do you think we're fit to go to war? not only in terms of depleted craft. we have aircraft carriers sat idle in portsmouth at a time when we're on the verge of war in the red sea, and the state of the nation, will we even get through the medicals? we're overweight, we're tattooed and recruitment this week saying we simply cannot get the staff up. >> yeah, it's time to do something about it. i'm afraid to say. a range of social programs have deterred the sort of people who would want to join the armed forces. you know, when i joined a the armed forces. you know, when ijoined a long the armed forces. you know, when i joined a long time ago now, you didn't join for the money, you didn't join for the money, you didn't join for the money, you didn't join for the conditions. you joined because you serve country you wanted to serve your country and actually do things , you and actually do things, you know, the people you know, for the people you believed in. and afraid to

believed in. and i'm afraid to say as i said, a range of say that as i said, a range of social programs has deterred that sort of attitude. it's very transaction . now, what i get transaction. now, what do i get out it? what can do after out of it? what can i do after i leave armed forces? we've leave the armed forces? we've got a sense of duty, got to get a sense of duty, a sense of sacrifice and a sense of selflessness back into the way we do our business. >> okay. thank you very much. former nato commander, rear admiral chris parry for that. what do you think out there? could we even get an army together? seems most people want together? seems most people want to games to sit around, play video games or mcdonnell , and they're or have a mcdonnell, and they're turning away because turning them away because they're most turning them away because they'relads most turning them away because they'relads are most turning them away because they'relads are now most turning them away because they'relads are now . most turning them away because they'relads are now . anyway, young lads are now. anyway, yesterday, rishi sunak told the laws do the do the right thing , laws do the do the right thing, do not oppose the rwanda bill, but is there already a plot to frustrate the government in the house of lords? once again, we'll discussing that in the next hour . we'll discussing that in the next hour. i'm martin daubney on gb news and we are britain's news channel . news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

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>> good afternoon. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk , rishi sunak has told the law uk, rishi sunak has told the law to do the right thing by not opposing the rwanda bill with echoes of brexit. but peers are already plotting to frustrate it. the government are about to ask a member of the house of lords if he'll do the same, and we'll have lots on the news of prince harry, who has dropped his libel claim against associated newspaper owners, the publisher, of course, of the

mail on sunday. and there's the alarming omission from the new head of ofsted that some schools have got no go areas for teachers. that's all coming in your next hour . now, i don't your next hour. now, i don't know about you, but it's beginning to feel a lot like brexit, rwanda , heading to the brexit, rwanda, heading to the lords about to be frustrated once again . lords about to be frustrated once again. is it lords about to be frustrated once again . is it labour and the once again. is it labour and the lib dems already seem to be getting together to do their bit to frustrate the will of parliament and the will of the people? let me know what you think about that. vaiews@gbnews.com. send your messages in. but first, here's your news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> martin, thank you. 5:01, your top stories from the gb newsroom. tata steel has confirmed up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot

site, the cuts will be made over the next 18 months as the company transitions to a greener way of working . the unite union way of working. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry. barry evans has been working at the steelworks for 28 years. obviously devastated. >> um , let down by tata and the >> um, let down by tata and the uk government . we do feel uk government. we do feel there's an opportunity to we understand we've got to go green , but a transition should be over decades, not months. >> downing street says the job losses are not as a result of the prime minister's net zero target. rishi sunak says the government remains committed to british steelmaking . british steelmaking. >> the government provided half £1 billion to support tata, the alternative, by the way, was that the entire plant would be closed and all 8000 jobs would be lost. but the government worked the company, worked with the company, provided billion. the provided half £1 billion. the company is investing money company is investing more money in order safeguard thousands in to order safeguard thousands of jobs, that's something of jobs, and that's something that government done .

that the uk government has done. the not the welsh government did not participate in that, and that's because we about those because we cared about those jobs future of jobs and the future of steelmaking wales the uk . steelmaking in wales and the uk. >> but the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says he's concerned about the future of the industry. >> he i was there just in october, so i know how this is going to impact on the workforce. the government said it had a plan for steel . it it had a plan for steel. it transpires the plan involves thousands of redundancies. there's a better plan, a multi—union plan that the government needs to look at again, that's a viable way forward. it's vital that we have a viable steel industry in the united kingdom. labour's got a plan for that viable future, not just for the next year or two, but for decades to come . but for decades to come. >> police say a newborn baby was less than an hour old when she was found in a shopping bag in east london. the child, who's been named elsa , was discovered been named elsa, was discovered wrapped in a towel by a dog walker in newham . uninjured,

walker in newham. uninjured, she's said to be black or mixed race efforts are now being made to find the little girl's mother i >> -- >> we are extremely concerned for her welfare she will have for her welfare as she will have been through a traumatic ordeal and will be in need of immediate medical attention following the birth . we've trained medics and birth. we've trained medics and specialist officers are ready to support her and we urge her to get in touch by phone or walk into the nearest hospital or police station . police station. >> police say four people found dead at a house near norwich are thought to have been all from the same family. the bodies of two girls, a 45 year old two young girls, a 45 year old man and a 36 year old woman were discovered at a home in costessey this morning . norfolk costessey this morning. norfolk police says at this stage it's being treated as an isolated incident , but detectives are incident, but detectives are keeping an open mind . the keeping an open mind. the neighbour of a father and son who were found dead in skegness, has told gb news they looked like a happy family. has told gb news they looked like a happy family . two year like a happy family. two year old bronson battersby was found next to the body of his dad

kenneth, who suffered a fatal heart attack. they were last seen alive on boxing day by sherry ross. in her first television interview, she told gb news she wasn't aware of anything suspicious. the last time i saw the boys was was the 26th, which was boxing day . 26th, which was boxing day. >> um, a little bit concerned because we hadn't seen him for a number of really . so number of days, really. so i went round, we knocked on the windows, knocked on the doors and an answer . and eventually got an answer. little bronson was there waving at from the door. full at me from the door. mouth full of pink wafers, bless and of pink wafers, bless him. and kenny was just kenny, you know, just running about frantically after the little one. he was two, so. but yeah, they were happy it was boxing day. lovely christmas . christmas. >> prince harry has withdrawn his libel case against the mail on sunday. his lawyers have filed a notice of discontinuance with the duke of sussex, saying he's focusing on the safety of his family. prince harry was trying to sue the mail on sunday

for a story about his dispute with the home office over his security arrangements. he'll now have to pay associated newspapers legal costs, as well as his own. he's been ordered to pay as his own. he's been ordered to pay almost 48,500 pounds on account before the end of the year. account before the end of the year . and his majesty, the king year. and his majesty, the king has returned to sandringham from scotland ahead of his hospital visit . king charles is due to be visit. king charles is due to be treated for a benign, enlarged prostate next week. the monarch has said he's keen to go public with the condition to encourage other men to get checked out . other men to get checked out. those are your top stories on gb news across the uk, on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . play gb news. now back to. martin. thank you tatiana. >> now we start with the government's battle to get the rwanda bill through the house of lords. and guess what? peers are already lining up to say they'll try to block it. quelle

surprise. just like brexit yesterday, rishi sunak urged the lords to do the right thing and not frustrate the will of the people by passing the bill. but it's already been reported that a number that a former labour minister is leading a group of lords who want to delay it and look at this lib dem life peer, lord roberts tweeted this i'm 88, i've been in politics for over 70 years. the rwanda bill is one of the biggest issues we've ever faced because on the back of it will be determined and whether the uk is an open, inclusive, progressive country or a country that panders to the will of the reactionary right right wing. now, you could probably hear him chuckling away in the sidelines there through sheer disbelief . it is our sheer disbelief. it is our political editor, chris hope, who joins me in the studio. well i was chuckling there. >> not not out of disbelief. just i think here we go. i mean, i when we that's the i think when we that's the point, free point, martin. it's a free country. say like and country. say what you like and these are liberal democrats. but

to all that meaning to a to give all that meaning to a bill try and deal bill to essentially try and deal with deportation with a government deportation plan, about pandering plan, it's not about pandering to indeed to anything or indeed it's i think there are bigger things to happen past seven happen in the past seven decades or decades . the peer or how many decades. the peer was saying there that maybe more important. >> and we were in this very studio yesterday to studio yesterday putting it to lord there would be lord roberts that there would be skulduggery, would be skulduggery, there would be bandying together of the liberals and the labour. he went no , no, that's thing no, no, that's the whole thing doesn't and i was doesn't happen. and i was suitably the next day. suitably chastised the next day. here we are . they're at it. here we are. they're at it. they're together at and bring hoving into view. lord goldsmith, who, of course was tony blair's attorney general dunng tony blair's attorney general during the iraq war, no less. he said it should not be ratified. it should be delayed. they're going to do their very best to do a brexit mach two on us. >> labour peer lord roberts. there is a lib dem peer and another another peer who's been making making noises about it. it is definitely going ring up as lord. um, robert hayward, lord hayward told us yesterday the tories have around 40% majority house of commons.

the tories have around 40% majoiare house of commons. the tories have around 40% majoiare outnumberedymmons. the tories have around 40% majoiare outnumbered bynons. they are outnumbered by everybody else and that's the challenge. but we do now. have we timeline set out for we have a timeline set out for when this when this work starts starting on thursday, we'll have the first of days of the first of ten days of heanngsin the first of ten days of hearings in the house of lords. it should be out of there in march , and then we'll probably march, and then we'll probably see an attempt the government see an attempt by the government to back in the measures to vote back in the measures they painfully this they agreed a painfully this week. of course, we saw it live on gb news in extremis. week. of course, we saw it live on gb news in extremis . yeah. on gb news in extremis. yeah. forgive me that. um richard tice through. >> in fact, he did phone you earlier. he did? he phoned as i was on air talking about the interview, thought it was interview, and he thought it was quite a robust interview, but, i mean, i think good. mean, i think it was good. >> he thought, but just just >> he thought, but but just just briefly, briefly on on that briefly, just briefly on on that issue there. a big issue there. no, it's a big um, we're to lot of we're going to see a lot of battles, a lot of to and fro. but i think the march deadline battles, a lot of to and fro. but i th is: the march deadline battles, a lot of to and fro. but i this encouragingieadline battles, a lot of to and fro. but i this encouraging foriline battles, a lot of to and fro. but i this encouraging for thee for that is encouraging for the pm. the rishi sunak wants to have taking have the first flights taking off and the beer we've off in may and the beer we've got. and together got. bet you and me, together with may be with the prime minister may be lost. if that happens. with the prime minister may be lost. well, hat happens. with the prime minister may be lost. well, jamesppens. with the prime minister may be lost. well, james daly;. martin. well, james daly yesterday the ante to

yesterday i upped the ante to a bottle of champagne. >> wants. if the flights get >> he wants. if the flights get off think i rush off the ground, i think i rush off the ground, i think i rush of head up in stoke. >> the drink? well that's a lot of stoke. >> listen, i don't think that this get through in this will get through in mid—march they're mid—march because they're already most already saying that the most likely of course, to likely amendments of course, to get on the echr get this down are on the echr supremacy, widening the asylum seekers right to appeal these are huge sticking points. that's what led the rebellion that fizzled out in the last chart. >> start widening the way fizzled out in the last chart. >> can, start widening the way fizzled out in the last chart. >> can, they: widening the way fizzled out in the last chart. >> can, they caniening the way fizzled out in the last chart. >> can, they can appeal. |e way fizzled out in the last chart. >> can, they can appeal. it'say they can, they can appeal. it's going be will become this, going to be it will become this, this, drip of legal going to be it will become this, this, repeatedly of legal going to be it will become this, this, repeatedly goingagal going to be it will become this, this, repeatedly going back to cases repeatedly going back to the to , to, to courts. and the to, to, to, to courts. and thatis the to, to, to, to courts. and that is why they were so keen to get the section order through that is why they were so keen to getthee section order through that is why they were so keen to getthe rebelsn order through that is why they were so keen to getthe rebels , order through that is why they were so keen to getthe rebels , to order through that is why they were so keen to getthe rebels , to putier through that is why they were so keen to getthe rebels , to putierinirough by the rebels, to put it in writing that ministers must overrule courts when they do this. but, um, so far we have a commitment, a verbal commitment from he from the prime minister that he will overrule the foreign court. i say an international i would say an international court in strasbourg. they'll overrule and overrule that court. and equally, going to change equally, they're going to change the in the civil service the wording in the civil service code officials code to show officials can overrule and go with government on that and not not damage their status. >> and back to brexit again

after all this obsessed about it. well, i, i see history repeating itself that is why i keep mentioning it, because after all this ping pong ing between the lords and the house of commons, we're going to then get mallet on the head, get the mallet on the head, potentially the european potentially from the european court of human rights, because this could then this could then go could go to go to them. this could go to the supreme as saw with the supreme court as we saw with the first round, this could take months this mid—march months after this mid—march delay, and this could push it into the summer or even beyond that. >> i that. »i that. >> i june when >> i mean, june 2022, when the echr stepped in, the so—called pyjama injunctions stopping that flight taking off on the tarmac at the airport. i mean, it could well happen again. you know, rishi sunak has staking his personal authority if not his political career as pm on getting this right. i do think, though , the timeline given by though, the timeline given by the house of lords to march is making a more likely making may a more likely possibility for the first flights off. flights taking off. >> said to khalid >> but i said to khalid mahmood earlier, this gets earlier, you know, if this gets shoved summer and those shoved into the summer and those boats in again, shoved into the summer and those boatsit in again, shoved into the summer and those boatsit will in again, shoved into the summer and those boatsit will it in again, shoved into the summer and those boatsit will it will in again, shoved into the summer and those boatsit will it will justagain, then it will it will just undermine varne rishi sunak

authority and he flickered a smile. because i think that's what want. what they want. >> they want that? >> labour will they want that? they work. they they want it not to work. they want to repeal it even if it's successful. hear from sir successful. we hear from sir keir starmer summer keir starmer this summer is challenged. there's a big olympics paris that pull olympics in paris that will pull away law enforcement from the coast france. don't coast of france. i don't think that the coast and that the enforcing the coast and the northern border of france with uk on small boats is with the uk on small boats is going as important as it going to be as important as it normally because of what's normally is because of what's happening a big year happening in france. a big year for , it's going for france, you know, it's going to hard, to us to to be hard, i think, to us to make our case, if they turned a blind eye france to more blind eye in france to more boats what we boats crossing, what can we say? >> gendarmes >> i can't see the gendarmes being bothered being especially that bothered with police in calais when they'll major. they've they'll have a major. they've got of problems got a lot of problems domestically of domestically in terms of security we're seeing security. we've we're seeing with islamist problems no eyes will be on the coast. it could be open season. >> during the 2012 olympics. >> during the 2012 olympics. >> i mean, all all enforcement was focussed on london making it safe. and we had like weapons and guns on high rise flats to shoot down any incoming attacks on the olympics. so that's the focus for france this that focus for france this year. that might mean might see more

might mean we might see more crossings summer. crossings in the summer. >> you think we're seeing crossings in the summer. >> repeatnk we're seeing crossings in the summer. >> repeat itself?'e seeing crossings in the summer. >> repeat itself? do eeing history repeat itself? do you think start to think that this will start to feel like the good or the bad old days? however you want to remember it of brexit, and we're just going see this in just going to see this in turnbull obstructionism, which will feel will make the people feel that this listen to this lot, they're not listen to us we are going to face, us at all. we are going to face, i think, in terms of covering it as journalists, a battle with the of lords the idea the house of lords and the idea back it was the enemies back then it was the enemies of the the supreme the people with the supreme court that attempt court for blocking that attempt to by boris johnson. >> we're going to see peers trying will of trying to frustrate the will of parliament, the will of the house forgive me, house of commons, forgive me, and will become a bit like and that will become a bit like brexit again. >> hope, superb >> okay chris hope, superb stuff. now speak with lord stuff. i can now speak with lord john mann, who's a member of the house lords the former house of lords and is the former labour mp for bassetlaw. welcome to the show, lord mann. so we were just hypothesising there about are we going to see brexit mark two the return of brexit, the lords doing their very best skulduggery to derail and pop the lilo of the rwanda bill. do

you think that's going to happen? or i might just be in a grizzled old cynic. well there's a lot of chaos there, but i think the chaos is much more chaotic than you're making out. >> i can't see a process where the lords can delay for long. um, i think it's reasonably predictable. there'll be some awkward amendments passed by the lords that, uh, the prime minister will want to overturn in the in the house of commons. but he can do that very quickly. but he can do that very quickly. but this isn't the moving feast that brexit was. and, you know, i was in the middle of all of that brexit was a huge moving feast, which allowed the lords to do whatever they wanted . this to do whatever they wanted. this is a single piece of legislation that's quite different , is a single piece of legislation that's quite different, and the lords has always been very reluctant to stick the final boot in, and i don't get the feeling that will happen with this. they'll pass amendments. the government won't like the

amendments. the government, i presume, will keep its majority and overturn those amendments . and overturn those amendments. um, but i think part of the chaosis um, but i think part of the chaos is that the, the if people want to be really mischievous, they might look at what robert jenrick tried to do and see if they can weave in some of his objections . that would be really objections. that would be really interesting. i'm not sure that's possible . um, but there are possible. um, but there are there are some mighty legal brains there , um, who spent brains there, um, who spent their entire lives in the legal profession working out those kind of things. uh it could happen. so there'll be some awkward amendments, but the prime minister is not with a single piece of legislation going to be blunted as long as he has his commons majority . but he has his commons majority. but of course, all of this takes time and a clear statement of intent here from lord goldsmith. >> of course, tony blair's attorney general during the iraq war. it should not be ratified and it should be delayed. you've

got the liberal democrats, lord roberts , saying this. if this roberts, saying this. if this gets through, it'll prove that britain is some sort of far right country, a reactionary right country, a reactionary right wing country. and the problem with all of this , lord problem with all of this, lord man, is that the public look on and roll their eyes and think, hang on a minute. we keep voting for stuff and it keeps getting frustrated. lords , frustrated. and the lords, nobody elected you. why don't you the will of you just listen to the will of the that said. the people that will be said. >> um , yeah, i think the >> but, um, yeah, i think the labour party is a bit different from the liberal democrats. the liberal are not going liberal democrats are not going to power. labour thinks it to be in power. labour thinks it can be labour. it won't want the house of lords overturning new labour bills . you know, they labour bills. you know, they might have a labour government, have some awkward amendments from its legislation, from the laws that it won't like. but the last thing keir starmer is going to want is the house of lords vetoing his legislation . so to vetoing his legislation. so to set that precedent now would not

be in the interests of the labour party, the liberals, i think they have nothing to lose on it . but i think they have nothing to lose on it. but i don't think it's going to get to that level. and i think one of the issues as well , the chaos is changing well, the chaos is changing a bit . what i'm hearing, not from bit. what i'm hearing, not from politicians, um, but from specialists in the field is that the movement that that's coming of asylum seekers trying to enter the country without permission is shifting somewhat from boats to lorries, which where it was before. i've heard that the number of people found on lorries in the last month or two has significantly gone up. now, if what we see is we had this shift, it was lorries and, you know, i used to be driving those things to and from calais. i'm aware of all the hassle that lorry drivers had. it was horrendous getting through calais with people trying to get in the back of the trucks, etc. yeah, i think we may see a shift

back to that . certainly there back to that. certainly there are early indications that that is happening at the moment, and so that chaos may shift a little bit. again and the, you know, the if you're trying to smuggle people in and make money out of it , if government goes for one it, if government goes for one thing and you can find another route , that's where they'll go. route, that's where they'll go. so i think, you know, we could be overtaken by events as well. so i think there's a lot of chaos. i think that'll maintain. and, you know , when, you know, and, you know, when, you know, robert robert jenrick as the ringleader , um, he voted one ringleader, um, he voted one way. lee anderson , who, of way. lee anderson, who, of course, you know. well he abstained and others voted with the government. so there's even chaos amongst those who want to harden the bill. so i think, um , harden the bill. so i think, um, it's a mish mash. it's going to be a mess . the it's a mish mash. it's going to be a mess. the lords will it's a mish mash. it's going to be a mess . the lords will stick be a mess. the lords will stick its nose in for sure, but i don't think there's going to be a huge debate. a huge delay from

the lords itself. i don't think that's possible . well i think that's possible. well i think there's hassle for the government but not any significant delay okay. >> and can i can i very quickly ask you to comment on tata steel? do you think we've surrendered as we see bassetlaw where you're from, nottinghamshire. we surrendered the mines. we completely abandoned communities and now imports . albert. we're doing the imports. albert. we're doing the same. we're still. are we making a huge mistake by outsourcing our steel and not being so sovereign on our own production . sovereign on our own production. >> it's cataclysmic for the future of industry in the country . i can recall leading country. i can recall leading a delegation of mining unions to brussels when they tried to shut one of the last coal mines in the country and being told, oh, there's nothing. you know, these are the rules in the european union. no longer in union. well, we're no longer in the union. those rules the european union. those rules don't apply . and we try to argue don't apply. and we try to argue they didn't apply. then and we failed . the government can do failed. the government can do what it wants. parliament, more

importantly , can do what it importantly, can do what it wants in terms of the steel industry. we should continue to make steel in this country free. otherwise what we are doing is we're importing. otherwise what we are doing is we're importing . we will be we're importing. we will be importing from china, from india in particular. that's not in our national interest . and the national interest. and the biggest irony is , yeah, some biggest irony is, yeah, some people try to suggest this is for, you know, kind of green eco reasons. well, as well as the cost of getting the steel over here, that's the steel that's used to build the wind turbines. so we're going to be importing the steel for the green energy . the steel for the green energy. it's a nonsense. we should be a steel producer. and what's the point of having brexit if we can't look after our steel industry ? it's what the european industry? it's what the european union was formed on to do it. did it in a way that didn't suit us. in my view, as we saw with coal mining. but steel , unlike coal mining. but steel, unlike coal mining. but steel, unlike coal mining, is an industry of

the future. the big tower blocks we need, etc. we need a british steel industry in this country thatis steel industry in this country that is qatar strophic for the industrial future of the country and there should be intervention to stop it. tartaro whoever. let's have those jobs saved and let's keep making british steel with british workers in britain . with british workers in britain. >> i think you know, lord john, man, a lot of people agree with you. let's make british steel great again. thank you very much for joining us on british news. forjoining us on british news. fantastic words from fantastic passionate words from you. now you've got lots more on that story on our website . and that story on our website. and thanks you. gbnews.com is the thanks to you. gbnews.com is the fastest growing national news website country. got website in the country. it's got breaking news and all of the brilliant analysis you've come to from gb news. so thank to expect from gb news. so thank you for that . now the you very much for that. now the terribly news that two year terribly sad news that two year old bronson battersby starved to death next to his dead father, has broken all of our hearts. questions are being asked of

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revelation from the new head of ofsted that some schools have no go areas for teachers as they feel unsafe . now the neighbour feel unsafe. now the neighbour of a father and son who were found dead in skegness , has told found dead in skegness, has told gb news they looked like a happy family. two year old bronson battersbee was found next to the body of his dad kenneth, who suffered a fatal heart attack at home. but what does it say about the current state of british society that a two year old boy is allowed to starve to death in his own home? well, to discuss this heartbreaking story now i'm joined by the academic and social commentator frank furedi. thank for joining us social commentator frank furedi. thank forjoining us on the show thank for joining us on the show . frank, this is a story that's upset a great many people for good reason. and i wanted to put it to you from a sociological point of view , why is this case point of view, why is this case almost indicative of a broader in britain? skegness, a community shattered , left behind community shattered, left behind on the coast, forgotten from its

former heydays, now ravaged by social depravity , by addiction social depravity, by addiction and by by forlorn hope. is britain now a country where, sadly, these types of tragic incidents is just more likely to happen ? well you know, i think happen? well you know, i think we live in a very difficult world at the moment. >> there are many , many >> there are many, many communities in britain where you have neighbourhoods without neighbours, where essentially a breakdown of social solidarity, where the kind of usual bonds that exist within a community are . very feeble, where people are. very feeble, where people are, in a sense switched off from from looking at the, the, the behaviour and the future of other people . and i think when other people. and i think when you have that kind of circumstance, when people are not interacting , acting when a not interacting, acting when a relation shapps between families and, and, and others is so, so

weak. when adults very rarely interact with young people, when generational relations have broken down. and i think what happens is that a lot of people become so isolated or can become so isolated that literally nobody knows what's happening to them. and this has already happenedin them. and this has already happened in numerous cases , happened in numerous cases, usually involving elderly people , elderly people who are living on their own. and basically they're being ignored by those who surround them. but in this case, what has happened is in many ways even more tragic when you have a young toddler being becoming a victim of the indifference , uh, people being indifference, uh, people being switched off from one another within society and that kind of fragmentation is something we need to worry about, fragmentation is something we need to worry about , because need to worry about, because that that is the kind of problem that that is the kind of problem that can corrode the very fabric of our society and make it difficult to move forward . difficult to move forward. >> and frank skegness is a town i know very well . i used to i know very well. i used to houday i know very well. i used to holiday there as a boy, a place i associate with great happiness

. but of course that was a different era and a lot of coastal towns in britain now suffer great social depravity. there at the end of the line, they're forgotten. they become dumping grounds , in fact, for dumping grounds, in fact, for social problems such as addicts who get moved out of town or in skegness case, asylum seekers who are put into hotels and as a consequence, as you said, that sense of community is fragmented by external forces, which makes people believe they lack that common purpose . common pufpose. >> common purpose. >> i know you know, one of my best friends comes from skegness, he used to be a bingo caller when he was a young guy, and he's because when i talked to him, he's got such happy memories of skegness and it really has this , uh uh, really has this, uh uh, incredible fantasy about what life was like . but he tells me life was like. but he tells me that now skegness is like a different world. it doesn't have any similarity with what happened 30, 40 years ago. it's like a different country. and as you suggest , west skegness has you suggest, west skegness has

become the victim of government policy that looks upon seaside side old seaside resorts and towns as a dumping sort of ground for all kinds of social problems . and it's tragic problems. and it's tragic because this isn't just skegness, there's a lot of other seaside towns, for example, you know, where i live in kent, which have become , uh, problems which have become, uh, problems where you have gangs preying on one another, where the local people feel that somehow the world has left them behind. they feel strangers within their own community. they don't recognise, you know , the communities where you know, the communities where they were born . and, uh, you they were born. and, uh, you know, it's almost as if, uh, sort of without being consulted . sort of without being consulted. and the world's problem has been dumped on them. and i think under those circumstances, uh , under those circumstances, uh, the problems become cumulative in character. and when you have , in character. and when you have, uh, people who come from a different culture who are not really interested, have no commitment to the place where they live in, and therefore, uh, are indifferent to the

consequences of their behaviour. plus, what you have is people who are have got social problems like addiction , who are also like addiction, who are also suffer from poverty. uh, and again, who are on their own, they got their own individuals fragmented existence . what you fragmented existence. what you have is that the local indigenous people get squeezed out . i indigenous people get squeezed out. i mean, they are indigenous people get squeezed out . i mean, they are the indigenous people get squeezed out. i mean, they are the ones that really pay the price and then as a result of that, you end up with what is in fact a kind of social jungle where in a sense, people are kind of vying for one another. it's very rare when you have new points of contact and social bonds being created , which is what skegness created, which is what skegness and all these other communities cities desperately need . cities desperately need. >> yeah. frank frady um, slightly depressing, but but fascinating stuff. and you're absolutely right. and don't forget these areas, these forgotten coastal communities, so often voted for brexit because they wanted to be heard, they wanted change. they wanted to change the status quo that was not working for them, and

they weren't listened to , were they weren't listened to, were they? thank you very much for joining us, frank. fantastic stuff . now there's lots more stuff. now there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00. prince harry faces a huge legal bill after he dropped his libel claim against the mail on sunday. publisher associated newspapers. but first, here's your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> martin thank you. 531 your top stories from the gb newsroom . tata steel has confirmed up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot site . the cuts its port talbot site. the cuts will be made over the next 18 months as the company transitions to a greener way of working . the unite union says working. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry . police say defend the industry. police say a newborn baby who was found in a newborn baby who was found in a shopping bag in east london

was less than an hour old when she was discovered . the child, she was discovered. the child, who's been named elsa, was found wrapped in a towel by a dog walker in newham under injured, she said, to be black or mixed race efforts are now being made to little girl's mother to find the little girl's mother . police say four people found dead at a house near norwich are thought to have been from the same family. the bodies of two young girls, a 45 year old man and a 36 year old woman were discovered at a home in costessey this morning, norfolk police says at this stage it's being treated as an isolated incident, but detectives are keeping an open mind . prince keeping an open mind. prince harry has withdrawn his libel case against the mail on sunday. the duke of sussex says instead he wants to focus on the safety of his family and his legal action against the home office . action against the home office. he was suing the mail on sunday over a story about his dispute with the government department and arrangements . and his security arrangements. and japan has made contact with

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price of gold. £1,598.40 per ounce, and the ftse 100 closed at 7461 points. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> yes, it's that time. my favourite part of the show. i'm joined by michelle jewellery because of course dewbs& co is coming from six till seven and it's even better because it's friday, happy friday because the jewellery arms is about to open. in fact , i think jubes is in fact, i think jubes is getting herself a glass as she comes into the studio now. are you there mish? i am yes. >> hello. what's on your menu, darling? >> to you? i can't believe you've renamed my tavern . it's you've renamed my tavern. it's not the jewellery arms, it's jewellery tavern . but yeah, it jewellery tavern. but yeah, it is very much open for business. uh, coming up tonight, of course. i'm going to have all the you would the stuff that you would imagine. i want imagine. martin so, yes, i want to at the nato stuff. of to look at the nato stuff. of course i want look at that course i want to look at that awful when it comes to awful news. uh, when it comes to tata the impact it's

tata steel and the impact it's going on that welsh going to have on that welsh community there, but, uh, never let said i don't get let it be said that i don't get involved in the tough stuff, martin, because i want martin, because i also want to talk dog poo. talk to you about dog poo. a very serious matter. it's a very serious matter. there was a poll done years ago that said, done a few years ago that said, actually, it's one of people's most annoyances when most biggest annoyances when they're public spaces they're out in public spaces that don't pick after up that people don't pick after up after animals. in after their animals. well, in italy, they've now done is italy, what they've now done is created. new database that created. this new database that everyone has to register their dog's dna and if indeed there is some of the brown stuff discovered unattend added to martin. now a sample will be taken. it will be cross—checked with a database, and the owner will be tracked down and fined. so i'm wondering whether or not my think that's a good my viewers think that's a good idea not. idea or not. >> i like that. it's almost >> it i like that. it's almost likethere you go. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> it's a database of poo. i think it's got merit. my local park now is a no go zone because a lot of, um, irresponsible owners take their dogs. it's all over the shop. the kids can't use it anymore. like that. use it anymore. i like that. listen, michelle, always listen, michelle, you've always got and novel stuff

got juicy and novel stuff on your have cracker . look your show. have a cracker. look forward it. six, six, seven. forward to it. six, six, seven. dewbs& co fabulous stuff . now, dewbs& co fabulous stuff. now, prince harry is facing a huge legal bill after he dropped his high court libel case against the publisher of the mail on sunday. and join me now to discuss this latest bombshell is royal commentator judith da silva. thank you forjoining us silva. thank you for joining us on the show. a big surprise. this i mean , there was harry this i mean, there was harry playing all all full of bluster, wanted the to case be dropped in its entirety. and now he's the one that's dropped. it could cost him a few quid to. >> yes. it was reported by the daily mail that he could , um. daily mail that he could, um. they're going to be holding him liable . the publishers that, um, liable. the publishers that, um, associated newspapers limited is going to be holding him liable for a quarter of £1 million in their legal expenses . this their legal expenses. this follows the over 48,000, the high court has basically said he has to pay them for other legal expenses. has to pay them for other legal expenses . expenses? when they expenses. expenses? when they threw out his attempts to have their, um , honest opinion,

their, um, honest opinion, defence thrown out of the case and that was ruled out. so it's not i mean, financially it's going to cost him a lot. but like you said, he wants to focus on the, um, case. he has against the home office when it comes to his security detail. when he visits the uk and also, there's an extra legal bill, his own lawyers purported to be half £1 million. >> so that's a thick end of three quarters of £1 million. this is going to cost him judita. and it's been a bad news week for him all round , because week for him all round, because he's also been dropped as one of the counsellors of state in the kings. and the princess his absence. do you think this is the final kind of coffin nail in harry's credibility? it's just looking like an absolute loser . looking like an absolute loser. >> i mean, i think it's just a question of the practical consequences to a public position. he has taken . so, i position. he has taken. so, i mean, i don't really feel that the, um, royal family or the quote unquote, the firm is spending their time thinking of ways to score points against the

son of the king. they're not structured that way. that's not the way they think . it's just the way they think. it's just the way they think. it's just the consequences he has the consequences of what he has done. when you publicly done. because when you publicly have out said you have come out and said you disagree with the position, the functionality and the modus operandi of the firm, when the queen was alive, and post that you cannot be occupying a position as counsellor of state where you can speak for the leader of said firm, which you say you disagree with. so it's just one plus one equals two. it's not a personal slight, it's just a practicality of operation because according to law, the counsellors of state should be the spouse of the sovereign . and the spouse of the sovereign. and the spouse of the sovereign. and the four, um, the four in the line of succession. and that would be prince william and his three children. but they have to come of age over 21. so up until then, in 2022, and the council of state act, king charles added in princess anne, when his brother edward . because as we brother edward. because as we all know, prince andrew is pretty much radioactive and can't occupy any public position at this point in time. >> um, do think , um, that

>> um, do you think, um, that harry judith will regret taking on the media like this? clearly, he had a very heartfelt connection because of what happened to his mother. but to drop this case quickly like drop this case so quickly like this, and in such an expensive manner is not only damaging to his wallet, but damaging to his reputation . and would it make reputation. and would it make him ask the question? should should of the royal should a member of the royal family started this in family ever have started this in the first place? >> um, you should always grant somebody a level of pragmatism when you judge them on their humanity. this is an individual who has been through a sensational amount of trauma, trauma that has gone unresolved, that has to manifest in a way. and in this way it has been quite sensational. but when you look at the nature of how he lost that, um, claim in the courts where they said that the mail on sunday said it was an honest forward honest opinion, they put forward and the high court upheld that he whether he does, we do not know. but one thing that that should prompt is for him to take a recalibration of the way he assesses. people have an honest

opinion about his very public actions . no matter whether you actions. no matter whether you are in the firm or out of it, you are a public figure and that's what you'll do. will be judged by all who see it. there's pragmatic, and an there's a pragmatic, um, and an understanding that that understanding of that that is necessary your of necessary just for your peace of mind and know forward, mind and to know going forward, there are those that will agree and those that agree. and those that won't agree. and always from the hip and always shooting from the hip and reacting might be detrimental to you both financially and emotionally. >> okay, judith da silva, thank you very much . >> okay, judith da silva, thank you very much. um, >> okay, judith da silva, thank you very much . um, excellent you very much. um, excellent insight there . a bad news week insight there. a bad news week for harry and an expensive one. two. now if you're planning on popping two. now if you're planning on popping out for a drink tonight like me, then don't order a large glass of wine or cambridge university researchers might be after you because they think pubs should stop selling large glasses of wine to help us cut down on our boozing. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

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channel >> welcome back. it's 545. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now to a story that paints a frightening picture of the state of our schools. the new head of the schools watchdog has said that some schools have no go areas for teachers. the chief inspector of ofsted, sir martin oliver, also revealed that some staff now lock themselves in their classrooms during breaks and lunch times to keep themselves safe. well joining me now to discuss this is a safeguarding children consultant and former police officer ken palmer . ken, and former police officer ken palmer. ken, welcome to the and former police officer ken palmer . ken, welcome to the show palmer. ken, welcome to the show . a sobering report. this a very sobering report. my mother was a teacher for her entire career . teacher for her entire career. my auntie was two. my missus is a to now. and i know that violence in schools is getting worse. a terrible state of affairs, though are teachers feel so afraid they're locking themselves away . how do we get themselves away. how do we get to this position?

>> good evening . martin. um >> good evening. martin. um i mean, firstly , i wouldn't mean, firstly, i wouldn't necessarily completely agree with sir martin oliver's , um, with sir martin oliver's, um, report . i, with sir martin oliver's, um, report. i, i regularly go into schools , uh, usually two times schools, uh, usually two times a week to conduct safeguards ing aust. audits. >> um, sometimes i do hear from staff , um, some of the >> um, sometimes i do hear from staff, um, some of the things that the report has said , um, that the report has said, um, but a lot of the time , um, i, but a lot of the time, um, i, i don't, i feel it's , it's down to don't, i feel it's, it's down to effective leadership in, in schools. >> i think if you've got strong leaders in schools, effective leaders in schools, effective leaders , clear policies , um, leaders, clear policies, um, procedures , staff know those procedures, staff know those procedures. there's consistency . procedures. there's consistency. >> um, then then behaviour is generally manageable . generally manageable. >> and, and i think staff and students both um, welcome that .

students both um, welcome that. >> but having said that, i've worked with um, some schools uh pupil referral units maybe in particular where and i'm thinking of one recently where um, it was as you've described um, it was as you've described um staff telling me they didn't feel supported by, um, senior leadership. um they were not responding to , um, you know, the responding to, um, you know, the on call , um, responding to, um, you know, the on call, um, when, when to my, my, my daughter is to , a uh, in my, my daughter is to, a uh, in a school. >> um , but in this particular >> um, but in this particular school that they weren't being supported by, by senior leadership and that they weren't being consistent with behaviour. >> um , you know, if a child >> um, you know, if a child receives a detention action, they, they should serve that detention if they know they're going to get a get away with it, then you allow behaviour to go kind of unchecked. so for me, i think it's consistency. it's effective policies and

procedures. >> yeah . an effective >> yeah. an effective leadership. um so i don't necessarily see, uh , everything necessarily see, uh, everything that, um, sir martin oliver was saying when i, when i go into to schools, but we are seeing an increase in violence in classrooms. >> the data supports that can and is that is , is that because and is that is, is that because of the fact that children know that teachers can't discipline them effectively ? see, in the them effectively? see, in the old fashioned sense a clip around the ear or more, they can't even get them by the arm and get them out of a classroom. now without there being a written children written report. the children know and know that they know this, and know that they truly power and that's truly hold the power and that's why it . why they do it. >> um, i mean , i that was >> um, i mean, i that was i mean, you're talking about my school days. um, you know , when school days. um, you know, when i was in school back in the 70s. yeah >> um, the cane was used. um, did it do any good? >> i probably feel it. it didn't . um, but i do feel, having said that, you do. >> i go back to what my. you

know, i said originally, you do need a robust, um , uh, policies, need a robust, um, uh, policies, procedures . procedures. >> students need to. and students will tell me when i talk to students as well . talk to students as well. >> okay. so, ken, um , got a >> okay. so, ken, um, got a comment here from david. um, who's echoing what you just said. i went to a boarding school in the 1960s. a discipline was ruled by the cane. it did me no harm and taught me respect . well i would disagree. >> i'm afraid. i've um. you know, i think, you know, we've moved on since then, and, um, you know, for me, violence breeds violence. um, you need to gain the respect of young people. um i don't think you know. yeah, it's appropriate . i know. yeah, it's appropriate. i can think of my school days and i can think of being caned. >> i can think of being hit by the pe teacher and all that really did was make me, um , really did was make me, um, probably even more , uh, ill

probably even more, uh, ill disciplined, if you like , and disciplined, if you like, and even more angry. >> so i would kind of disagree with that statement. i think we need to have to work with our young people, but we do need to have of consistency , have kind of consistency, expectations, strong leadership, and you know, i've got a group of 17 year olds here at the moment with me. and i kind of had a quick chat before we came on air and what they were saying to me is it's a little bit of respect. so, you know, yes, they agree with the younger years. there um , uh, there will be, um, uh, discipline issues , bad discipline issues, bad behaviour, but when they get older, um , you know, they, they older, um, you know, they, they like those boundaries , but they like those boundaries, but they like those boundaries, but they like to see a bit of respect coming the other way as well. >> and ken, i'm afraid we have to leave it there. ken, i'm afraid, um, because we've got a guest waiting wings. in guest waiting in the wings. in fact, have had a quick fact, you might have had a quick sneak them. time sneak peek of them. it's time for about drinking, for a talk about drinking, because large measures of wine could banned from sale in could be banned from sale in pubs, restaurants due pubs, bars and restaurants due to which showed to recent research, which showed a fall of almost 8% in overall

alcohol consumption . the 250ml alcohol consumption. the 250ml measure, which is equivalent to a third of a bottle of plonk , a third of a bottle of plonk, may be excluded from menus . and may be excluded from menus. and this comes as the government recently unveiled plans to permit the sale of wine in pint size measures . the old sam size measures. the old sam allardyce, as i call it. well joining me now is comedian bruce devlin, who has interviewed before his time there, bruce. bruce thanks for joining us. it's friday evening. thoughts turned to a large glass of wine, except if we listen to the boffins, we wouldn't be allowed it. they're banning large glasses of wine altogether because they think it's good for their health. what rights do they to do that ? they have to do that? >> well, if there is a health concern, i don't think people will pay attention to it. to be honest with you. and if you can't get a large glass of wine in a pub, you're going to buy a bottle. i don't know bottle. i mean, i don't know about you, but if i'm with friends or whoever, i the cost of two large glasses wine of two large glasses of wine is almost if almost a bottle, particularly if you somewhere like a you go somewhere like a wetherspoons, where you'll get a

reasonable bottle for, you know, 12, £15. you're going to do that. so i think all this will do is push of bottles do is push up sales of bottles of wine. >> yeah. and a lot of people have complaining it have been complaining about it as during pubs as well during this 21 pubs tried it for, pubs worth of tried it for, for pubs worth of people complained and but it does make a change. must does make a change. you must admit. when you go for admit. normally when you go for admit. normally when you go for a of wine they always go a glass of wine they always go large go yes, or gin large one. you go yes, or gin and tonic? double yes. they large one. you go yes, or gin and tortrying uble yes. they large one. you go yes, or gin and tortrying to le yes. they large one. you go yes, or gin and tortrying to shove they large one. you go yes, or gin and tortrying to shove it1ey large one. you go yes, or gin and tortrying to shove it down they're trying to shove it down our most of the time. our throats most of the time. and now they're trying to wind back. about choice? >> well, i think it is an individual's choice because everyone knows if drink too everyone knows if you drink too much, you're, you know, you're storing up health risk, potentially . potentially. >> i had a friend who's from the uk, but she lives in new york and she'd come and she's and she'd come back and she's used we used to freeport. so when we were christmas , of were out at christmas, of course, was going a course, she was going even a double taste a double gin doesn't taste like a double gin doesn't taste like a double never go, that's double gin. i never go, that's why going out why i like going out in newcastle , because they have newcastle, because they have trebles get trebles bars. so you can get a treble, gin tonic. um, and i treble, gin and tonic. um, and i do that because i'm sorry. whether i'm an advocate for good health or not, you don't taste a

single. that's just the bottom line. >> yeah. and the thing about this, i didn't know this. that wine is now the most popular alcoholic in the uk. it's alcoholic drink in the uk. it's overtaken beer. alcoholic drink in the uk. it's oveyeah,| beer. alcoholic drink in the uk. it's oveyeah, ioeer. alcoholic drink in the uk. it's oveyeah, i think it has been >> yeah, i think it has been that way for ages. but the thing is as well. >> okay, then. is as well. >> maybe hen. is as well. >> maybe to n. is as well. >> maybe to going to be able to cut it down in the pubs, but they're not going to come into people's houses, stasi style, are they. mean i've got are they. i mean i've got friends that can do 3 or 4 bottles of wine a night, not i'm saying that that's anything to be proud of. but, know, if be proud of. but, you know, if you've big glasses that fit you've got big glasses that fit a and course, you're a bottle and of course, you're cooking. that drink cooking. so then that drink doesn't then you go into doesn't count. then you go into the store. i think it's the other store. i think it's i don't know what this is about. i agree that people should have the , but i don't think the choice, but i don't think it's actually going much it's actually going to make much difference. could difference. i think people could actually industry . by actually affect the industry. by people moving away and drinking the knives to stop there. >> thank you very much. it's time to go to dewbs & co six till time to go to dewbs& co six till seven. i've been martin daubney three all of week. three till six all of next week. i'm off pub myself. three till six all of next week. i'm off have pub myself. three till six all of next week. i'm off have ayub myself. three till six all of next week. i'm off have a greatyself. three till six all of next week. i'm off have a great evening. cheers! have a great evening. >> outlook with boxt

>> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello, it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. much milder weather this weekend as it returns to wet and very windy storm isa has been named for later sunday and into monday, but it's going to be blustery all weekend. spells of rain will move through during saturday and more especially into sunday. and here's bringing some here's storm isa bringing some decent , active and here's storm isa bringing some decent, active and damaging wind gusts during and gusts during sunday night and into monday. but for the time being , it's actually relatively being, it's actually relatively calm out there . clear skies for calm out there. clear skies for the midlands, east anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the south of england with a frost places, elsewhere frost in places, but elsewhere actually the frost actually we lose the frost because we gain the atlantic cloud of rain . cloud and spells of rain. there'll still be some hill or mountain snow for scotland, but otherwise it will be largely rain milder moves in from rain as milder air moves in from the and it's going to be the west and it's going to be a breezy day on saturday, especially in the north and the west. the first spell rain west. the first spell of rain moves into northern england,

parts wales . moves into northern england, parts wales. it moves into northern england, parts wales . it fizzles parts of wales. it fizzles out, stays and bright in east stays dry and bright in east anglia in the south—east after a chilly start. but further west, another bout of wet and windy weather moves in by the end of saturday and you can see the difference in temperatures. we're to 8 or 9 celsius in we're up to 8 or 9 celsius in the west, still on the chilly side the south—east, 6 or 7. side in the south—east, 6 or 7. that doesn't long because that doesn't last long because on further bouts of wet on sunday, further bouts of wet and increasingly windy weather move through. it's a showery day on sunday at first, but the rain turning more persistent later and the winds really picking up dunng and the winds really picking up during the afternoon and evening as stormy arrives . as stormy arrives. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .

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be enforced? you tell me and get this a uk primary school may be forced to close its doors after being subjected . get this to being subjected. get this to bomb threats . after being bomb threats. after being labelled islamophobic , following labelled islamophobic, following them, banning the wearing of proper badges. one of my panel tonight says well, if there's a safety risk then yeah, the school should close. the other one, though, says never should we give in to the mob. what says you? also a question for you you? and also a question for you tonight. do you still think we need landlines ? do you have one. need landlines? do you have one. do you need it? would you miss it if you didn't have it? what about those things like your personal safety alarms and the rest of it that connect to them? would life more dangerous would life be more dangerous without get in touch without landlines? get in touch and tell me and this story without landlines? get in touch and tedid1e and this story without landlines? get in touch and tedid catchi this story without landlines? get in touch and te did catch mys story without landlines? get in touch and te did catch my eye. ry without landlines? get in touch and te did catch my eye. let's really did catch my eye. let's all face it. right, dog poo that has been abandoned is an absolute nuisance. what do you do about it then? right? because the province in italy is decided that enough is enough, what they're do is build they're going to do is build a dna yes you heard that

dna database. yes you heard that right. all earners forced