tata steel from the gb newsroom. tata steel has confirmed up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot site . the cuts will be talbot site. the cuts will be made over the next 18 months as the company transitions to a greener way of working . the greener way of working. the unite union says it's ready to use everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry. meanwhile, downing street says the job losses are not as a result of the prime minister's net zero target. rishi sunak says he remains committed to british steel making. >> the government provided half £1 billion to support tata, the alternative, by the way, was that the entire plant would be closed and all 8000 jobs would be lost. but the government worked with company, worked with the company, provided billion. the provided half £1 billion. the company investing money company is investing more money in order safeguard thousands in to order safeguard thousands of jobs, and that's something that government done . that the uk government has done. the not the welsh government did not participate in that, and that's because those because we cared about those jobs future of jobs and the future of steelmaking in wales and the uk . steelmaking in wales and the uk. >> but the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says he's concerned about the future of

the industry . the industry. >> i was there just in october, so i know how this is going to impact on the workforce . the impact on the workforce. the government said it had a plan for steel. it transpires the plan involves thousands of redundancies. there's a better plan, a multi—union plan that the government needs to look at again when that's a viable way forward , it's vital that we have forward, it's vital that we have a viable steel industry in the united kingdom . labour's got united kingdom. labour's got a plan for that viable future, not just for the next year or two, but for decades to come . but for decades to come. >> police say a newborn baby was less than an hour old when she was found in a shopping bag in east london, the child, who's been named elsa, was discovered wrapped in a towel by a dog walker in newham, uninjured , she walker in newham, uninjured, she is said to be black or of mixed race. efforts are now being made to find the little girl's mother , and police say four people found dead at a house near norwich are thought to have all been from the same family. the bodies two young girls, a 45

bodies of two young girls, a 45 year old man and a 36 year old woman were discovered at a home in kc this morning. woman were discovered at a home in kc this morning . norfolk in kc this morning. norfolk police being treated as police say it's being treated as an isolated incident, but detectives are keeping an open mind . and finally king charles mind. and finally king charles has returned to sandringham from scotland ahead of his hospital visit. he's due to be treated for a benign , enlarged prostate for a benign, enlarged prostate next week . the monarch has said next week. the monarch has said he's keen to go public with the condition to encourage other men to get checked out . those are to get checked out. those are your top stories on gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . patrick news. now back to. patrick >> now we've been hearing non—stop about the channel, haven't we actually , should that haven't we actually, should that be stop the lorries though okay, new home office autistics show that there's been a 60% rise year on year in the number of migrants detected at uk ports,

after being smuggled in vehicles or ferries in the three months of september, 95 were found, compared to 60 in the same penod compared to 60 in the same period the previous year. the number found in the three months of september was almost twice as high as the previous quarter, when 56 migrants were detected, but this is just a fraction of the true number, though. isn't but this is just a fraction of thewhy?number, though. isn't but this is just a fraction of thewhy.7 well,er, though. isn't but this is just a fraction of thewhy.7 well, because h. isn't but this is just a fraction of thewhy.7 well, because they're it.7 why.7 well, because they're only the it? why? well, because they're only the ones that we've actually stopped lorries. actually stopped in the lorries. we've idea how many will we've got no idea how many will have come over the back of have come over in the back of lorries, for it to pull lorries, waited for it to pull over service station, and over at a service station, and then bolted back and then bolted out the back and into britain and it isn't just lorries that they're on. lorries that they're coming on. no. imagine being no. can you imagine being this poor here your way back poor bloke here on your way back from to france from a nice trip to france or somewhere he somewhere like that? and he heard something rustling around in , i mean, in your roof box, i mean, grief, look this pans out . you see look how this pans out. you see a chap there in the in top a chap there in the in the top of the box. can't you out? of the roof box. can't you out? he gasps. and the police, thankfully, they were actually there. they'd been alerted to it, are. there. they'd been alerted to itmean, are. there. they'd been alerted to itmean, remarkable, are. there. they'd been alerted to itmean, remarkable, isn't are. there. they'd been alerted to itmean, remarkable, isn't it?e. there. they'd been alerted to itmean, remarkable, isn't it? we i mean, remarkable, isn't it? we here at gb predicted the here at gb news predicted the huge increase in arrivals, huge increase in lorry arrivals, our security editor, our homeland security editor, mark went to calais

mark white, went to calais exclusively for this show a couple of months ago, and he discovered this. >> if you don't have to look far to the migrants, they're to spot the migrants, they're everywhere here as we film , as everywhere here as we film, as one clambers into the back of this lorry disappearing out of sight . sight. >> well, today the vast majority of britain's establishment media decided to obsess about a heavily edited clip that falsely made rishi sunak now look as though he laughed in a former nhs workers face. >> you could make it all go back to how it used to be, where we had no, literally no. >> yeah , but where we had , if >> yeah, but where we had, if you had a problem, you could go to the hospital. >> my daughter. yeah. yeah we spent the next seven hours waiting keir starmer is too busy flip flopping again on yet another policy. >> lib dem leader ed davey is still in hiding over the post office scandal. the snp is reeling from allegations about humza yousaf, his brother in law, and nicola sturgeon deleting all of her covid

whatsapp messages this week. we've had labour's stella creasy humiliate herself by appearing to mistake nato for an international court. >> i just wonder if she could clarify because she's got a concern there about a foreign court . what does she think nato court. what does she think nato is ? he doesn't respect ? is? he doesn't respect? >> nato is not a court. >> nato is not a court. >> i'm slightly embarrassed that ihave >> i'm slightly embarrassed that i have to make that clear to the honourable lady and theresa coffey , seemingly forgetting coffey, seemingly forgetting that the capital of rwanda, of course, the country where we are trying to send a hand full of channel migrants to say i was somewhat astonished by the speech of the shadow home secretary, who can't even get the name of the country right. talking about the kigali government, we're talking about rwanda . rwanda. >> oh, jesus . right. yeah. look, >> oh, jesus. right. yeah. look, i know the public care about illegal immigration. i know you care about illegal immigration, the public care about it because it poses a genuine threat to

your life , doesn't it? and your your life, doesn't it? and your way of life and your tax money. but on the day that it's emerged, that has been a huge surge in illegals using lorries to enter the uk, is anyone in politics or the establishment media actually taking illegal immigration seriously enough? let's get the thoughts on my panel now. we've got editor at large at the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths got former bbc chief political correspondent sergeant and correspondent john sergeant and former labour party adviser stella chan to do all of you. thank you very, very much. and charlotte, i'll start with you. we're taking our eye off the ball when it comes to lorries, i think haven't we? >> i think so, it's kind of quite retro. >> looking those isn't >> looking at those clips, isn't it? because i just remember seeing all those clips seeing all those lorry clips years and years ago, and here they again. think they are back again. and i think it's a bit like whack mole, it's a bit like whack a mole, isn't it? because been isn't it? because we've been focusing boats. focusing so much on the boats. but are, the truly but here they are, the truly desperate. if you go in desperate. because if you go in a lorry it's free obviously, so you those incredibly you get those incredibly desperate people have desperate people don't even have the these awful the money to pay for these awful boats nearly kill

boats that sort of nearly kill them. just it's them. it just feels like it's whack mole. like whack a mole. it feels like we've gone back a few years and we've gone back a few years and we got that same old problem with the calais crossing. we got that same old problem witiande calais crossing. we got that same old problem witiande calaiwhen sing. to >> and john, when it comes to the side, i think, i mean, the lorry side, i think, i mean, i pulling my hair out. i was just pulling my hair out. we the rwanda we had obviously the, the rwanda bill week and all the bill this week and all the controversy around that. and you know, all this talk of know, for all of this talk of we're to stand up all we're going to stand up to all the right wing of the tory party. of them marched up party. a load of them marched up the hill and marched back down party. a load of them marched up the hifornd marched back down party. a load of them marched up the hifor like1arched back down party. a load of them marched up the hi for like the 1ed back down party. a load of them marched up the hi for like the secondk down party. a load of them marched up the hi for like the second oriown again for like the second or third only tory third time, only 11 tory mps voted against um, now voted against it. um, and now we're situation where we we're in a situation where we can well, look, can say, well, look, the weather's the small weather's been bad. the small boats crossings have been down. but as we but actually people as we predicted, because we dispatched mark over there to a lorry mark white over there to a lorry park thought park because we thought this would just would happen. people are just coming en masse and coming in lorries en masse and at they come on boats at least when they come on boats and they get to dover or wherever pick wherever we normally would pick them we've them them up, and then we've got them right they on back them up, and then we've got them riglorries, they on back them up, and then we've got them riglorries, if hey on back them up, and then we've got them riglorries, if they on back them up, and then we've got them riglorries, if they get on back them up, and then we've got them riglorries, if they get through,3ack of lorries, if they get through, they're services they're just at keele services before you know it. and they're off aren't they. yeah i mean i think the system in think the, the whole system in fact now, such fact is, is now, now in such a state people have lost state that people have lost faith in it. >> that's why. when the >> that's why. so when the government talking in government are talking in westminster, their

westminster, talking in their rather the rather narrow way about the boats and will happen and boats and what will happen and what house of lords do, what will the house of lords do, i think it's not surprising that the overall figures, when the opinion poll comes out on do you believe that the rwanda scheme will work amazingly , amazingly? will work amazingly, amazingly? three quarters of the people questioned think it won't work well now that's partly because i think they just think, well, nothing seems to work and it's nothing seems to work and it's not just the lorries. what is amazing is what's happening in ireland, where you're getting a lot of people arriving in ireland, going through northern ireland, going through northern ireland, getting on the ferry and disappearing. >> yeah. now absolutely. spot on.and >> yeah. now absolutely. spot on. and the people of ireland, by the way, have taken quite a different approach to a lot of communities here in britain. you are seeing quite high level civil unrest right across the repubuc civil unrest right across the republic of ireland . and i'm republic of ireland. and i'm just going to read a couple of the comments because i was asking on twitter earlier, you know, taking illegal know, is nobody taking illegal immigration seriously? and a few people just people echo what you've just said. john. give up said. there john. look, give up

patrick. of the two major patrick. none of the two major parties stop them. you parties intend to stop them. you know what's on. need know what's going on. we need an entire somebody why entire reset. so somebody why bother? one. britain's long bother? says one. britain's long gone by now, but stella , i don't gone by now, but stella, i don't think you think illegal immigration is a particularly big problem. you know dont? >> it's because it's not patrick, actually, as a matter of around of the uk of fact, around 1% of the uk population undocumented, population is undocumented, so that very small percentage that is a very small percentage of population. this is of the uk population. this is a very small number of people. you are showing all of these extremely people extremely desperate people clinging onto the backs of lorries. you are never going to stop them they've there stop them and they've been there forever . the kind of person who forever. the kind of person who is to take all of these is going to take all of these risks to to another country risks to move to another country has these people has always existed. these people are going to migrate no matter what. >> well, if they're a member of isis, yeah. >> then that is concerning . >> then that is concerning. >> then that is concerning. >> i not like and we would >> i would not like and we would and wouldn't. >> i would not like and we would anc no wouldn't. >> i would not like and we would anc no we»uldn't. >> i would not like and we would anc no we wouldn't, you wouldn't. >> no we wouldn't, you wouldn't. no. you can make the no. but but but you can make the same think that same argument. do you think that any person. do any kind of person. yes, i do think that's that's think that's a, that's a problem. >> right. so we do need to stop illegal immigrants. >> right. so we do need to stop illegal inmigrants. >> right. so we do need to stop illegal i don'tants. >> right. so we do need to stop illegal i don't think i don't >> but i don't think i don't think that a member of isis would through all these

would go through all of these routes they routes to come here, but they have i think the have to come here. i think the people come through people who come here through these, these, these, these types of are asylum of situations are either asylum seekers are seekers or people who are extremely, determined extremely, extremely determined to here. and that to come here. and i think that these cases. i think these are extreme cases. i think what what is actually happening here is that politicians have once again found a very, very convenient problem to pin all of the problems that we are having as a country. right now. they are telling people the reason why you are dissatisfied , the why you are dissatisfied, the reason why the economy is tanking, the reason why you're suffering with high, high energy costs and with inflation is because of immigrants. and guess what? this is a tale as old as time . time. >> no it's not. it's not entirely untrue though, is it that because, you know, it's no , that because, you know, it's no, it doesn't take genius to work it doesn't take a genius to work out that if you've got record nhs waiting times, got nhs waiting times, you've got a housing you've all housing crisis, you've got all of this stuff that rapid, high level growth is a level population growth is a major them. if major factor for them. but if you look, look at the you look, if you look at the percentage immigration as a percentage of immigration as a as a percentage of the population of the uk,

immigration, three quarters of a million people a year is, i think, by most people's, you are giving absolute number. giving me an absolute number. >> if you're >> but actually, if you're looking the percentage of the looking at the percentage of the population the population is also rising, the amount immigration we are amount of immigration we are seeing is not unlike the immigration we used to see in previous decades . well, think previous decades. well, i think globally, looking globally, when you're looking globally international immigration and, and, and, and the amount of refugees we have is not uncommon compared to previous decades . as a matter of previous decades. as a matter of fact, we probably have a little bit less refugees right now than we used to. >> okay. all right. i mean, fundamentally, though, that doesn't whether or doesn't really change whether or not still too not it's actually still too many, it? many, though, does it? >> but the reason we have immigration country immigration in this country is because major labour because there are major labour gaps, because as gaps, and it is because as businesses lobbying the businesses is lobbying the government, we have got other members on the panel. >> so i'm going i'm going to >> so i'm going to i'm going to go them. actually go to them. but actually the idea is that we are worse off per capita, and you cannot get around maybe around the fact that maybe brexit blame giant. brexit is to blame a giant. you know, got economic know, we've got a giant economic immigration ponzi scheme that is about charlotte, about to go bust. but charlotte, when comes to taking illegal

when it comes to taking illegal immigration seriously enough , do immigration seriously enough, do you think there is some truth to what sarah is saying there, which is that governments may be use illegal immigration as a way of diverting from some other, bigger that or bigger issues that have got or not. i don't think so. >> i disagree lot >> i disagree with quite a lot of what there. i don't of what you said there. i don't think do say migration and think they do say migration and immigration for immigration is to blame for loads of things. just think loads of things. i just think it's a national it's a genuinely a national problem people problem that people are concerned they concerned about, and they are occasionally service to occasionally pay lip service to the that people really the fact that people are really worried they don't worried about it. but they don't pin blame pin all the they don't blame everything wrong. pin all the they don't blame everknow] wrong. pin all the they don't blame everknow , wrong. pin all the they don't blame everknow , the wrong. pin all the they don't blame everknow , the cost wrong. pin all the they don't blame everknow , the cost of wrong. pin all the they don't blame everknow , the cost of living]. you know, the cost of living crisis a to do with crisis is a lot to do with ukraine. you know, nobody's saying cost of living crisis saying the cost of living crisis is with immigration. but, is to do with immigration. but, you know, and but is you know, and but there is a real problem with fatigue. people are people just people just are people just see them talking in westminster for hours hours days and hours and hours and days and days an end. and every day days on an end. and every day that by of thousands that goes by tens of thousands of are coming over of people are coming over and you you're just you just think you're just you're this time you're spending all this time talking is talking and no change is actually happening there actually happening. and there is so fatigue that , i so much fatigue around that, i think, yeah. >> john, how does fatigue >> john, how does this fatigue actually, culminate, actually, you know, culminate, right will right. because we will have a general election some general election at some point

soon. parties not soon. the smaller parties do not tend well at general tend to do that well at general elections our current elections under our current voting just voting system. that is just the way that it tends to go. so you're going to end up with some kind choice almost kind of binary choice almost definitely spoke to a former and labour. i spoke to a former conservative minister last week and labour. i spoke to a former consjusttive minister last week and labour. i spoke to a former consjusttive min me,�* last week and labour. i spoke to a former consjusttive min me, when neek and labour. i spoke to a former consjusttive min me, when he k and labour. i spoke to a former consjusttive minme, when he was who just said to me, when he was around cabinet table, he around that cabinet table, he was his head off off it was banging his head off off it because people did not seem to get how much of an issue it was for the british public, mass illegal immigration. they just don't seem to get it, do they? >> well, not they want don't seem to get it, do they? >> weit. not they want don't seem to get it, do they? >> weit. i not they want don't seem to get it, do they? >> weit. i mean, they want don't seem to get it, do they? >> weit. i mean, that's|ey want don't seem to get it, do they? >> weit. i mean, that's part'ant to get it. i mean, that's part of the problem and there's no doubt that the level legal doubt that the level of legal immigration did take people by surprise when it was three quarters of a million last year. yeah. and that issue, people find puzzling. so if the government are trying to tighten immigration, cameron used to talk about tens of thousands. and here we are with three quarters of a million. so people are already thinking, what are they up to? and i think the other thing is, which is genuine and which is referred to by politicians, is people are so upset at the idea that you don't

need to fill in forms or anything, just on to a small anything, just get on to a small dinghy and cross channel on dinghy and cross the channel on a day , there'll be people a nice day, there'll be people and you'll right. people and you'll be all right. people hate that. and you'll be all right. people hat whot. and you'll be all right. people hat who would and you'll be all right. people hatwho would harry having >> who would harry having refugees. having refugees. welcome signs. is it any wonder, stella, that we've got people risking their lives ? hang on a risking their lives? hang on a minute. is it any we've minute. is it any wonder we've got people risking their lives to into dinghies, or to to get into dinghies, or to cling to back of lorries cling on to the back of lorries or when know that or anything when they know that there's shadow home there's a labour shadow home secretary there's a labour shadow home secreaary there's a labour shadow home secrea big refugee welcome sign. with a big refugee welcome sign. >> i'm sorry, but the labour shadow is saying shadow home secretary is saying that that i'm a that i am saying that i'm not a labour shadow secretary. labour shadow home secretary. >> the labour party is as well labour shadow home secretary. >> labouriour party is as well labour shadow home secretary. >> labour partyarty is as well labour shadow home secretary. >> labour party has, s as well labour shadow home secretary. >> labour party has, has well labour shadow home secretary. >> labour party has, has made the labour party has, has made it clear that they want to it very clear that they want to they refugees . they want refugees. >> no, they've made it very clear what they're going to clear that what they're going to do, they're going to do, and that is they're going to take of many people take control of how many people are coming here and the way that you do that is by having an agreement with your neighbouring country , liz, where you have country, liz, where you have cooperated on what you're going to do. you know, those neighbouring countries, right? >> if they

>> right now, could if they decided to stop the boats in a heartbeat because they could confiscate motors confiscate the off board motors and themselves and and the boats themselves and everything, not solve that would not. not doing it. not. they're not doing it. >> would >> so why would not? >> so why would not? >> why should trust them? >> so why should we trust them? why trust that would why should we trust that would not problem. not solve the problem. >> keir starmer's plan >> actually, keir starmer's plan which does actually say which which does actually say that you will allow for a set number of asylum seekers to come to the uk is going to work a lot better, because if you're not going to give people a legal route to the uk, they will come here anyway. guess what? you here anyway. and guess what? you are worse are making the problem worse because what used to happen is you used to have people come here as refugees or as seasonal workers and then go back home to their families, because that's what most people want to do. they want to get away from a bad situation, develop professionally or educationally, and back to where they and then go back to where they came from. but they can no longer do that because you've made you've made it so made the you've made it so difficult for people to do that, that have be afraid. that they have to be afraid. obviously sorry, it's obviously sorry, stella, it's not for people to do not difficult for people to do that we've got record that because we've got record

levels people, both legal and illegal. >> you also have record country, the whole world is also 8.1 billion. >> that's a record level of global population. this is why you have record levels of immigration. >> all right okay. now look we've got loads more coming up actually, because it's been a rather turbulent week for the royals. royal commentator pandora joins us to make pandora forsyth joins us to make some sense of all. the latest some sense of it all. the latest from prince harry as what from prince harry as well. what is live under is it like to live under a labour government okay, we're going to be going live to wales to about that. but to find out all about that. but up next in my head head, as up next in my head to head, as nato warning that must nato are warning that we must prepare a war with russia, prepare for a war with russia, should back national should we bring back national service? military historian chris newton head to head chris newton goes head to head with senior british army with retired senior british army officer dannatt. this is officer richard dannatt. this is patrick christys tonight's only on

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . news is. >> this is patrick christys tonight. it's only on gb news andifs tonight. it's only on gb news and it's time now for our head to head . now a top nato military to head. now a top nato military official has warned that we must prepare for all out war with russia . the official said that russia. the official said that governments and civilians must also prepare for the possibility of bringing back national service , as russia has tripled service, as russia has tripled its military expenditure and has sped up manufacturing lines . sped up manufacturing lines. however, instead of coming out with plan to stop this, or with a plan to stop this, or even just some reassurance, is nato simply accepting a war? grant shapps said something earlier on in the week as well, very similar to get ready for war . very similar to get ready for war. finland's new

very similar to get ready for war . finland's new defence war. finland's new defence secretary literally told people in that country to. if you've not already, try and join some kind of civil defence unit . it kind of civil defence unit. it would quite nice. do you not would be quite nice. do you not think the whose job think, if the people whose job it stop this from it was to stop this from happening actually bothered happening are actually bothered to, instead just accepting? happening are actually bothered to, insyoui just accepting? happening are actually bothered to, insyou know st accepting? happening are actually bothered to, insyou know what:epting? happening are actually bothered to, insyou know what we're]? happening are actually bothered to, insyou know what we're all yeah, you know what we're all going world war iii and going to have world war iii and it's your shortly. it's coming your way shortly. military historian chris newton is head to head with is going to go head to head with retired british army retired senior british army officer lord dannatt shapps. thank very much, chris. i'll thank you very much, chris. i'll start you. just wonder start with you. i just wonder now not then the now whether or not then it's the time bring national time to bring back national service. benefits service. what were the benefits of be? of that be? >> good evening . um, i >> uh. good evening. um, i should firstly caveat what i say by my saying that, um, i, i believe that national service should be a last resort, but i did agree to come on here to put the pro case. so that's what. that's what i'm going to be doing. and the, the, the benefits are firstly in terms of strategic , um, there's, there's strategic, um, there's, there's a manpower shortage. there's manpower crisis. armed forces at

very low levels. the armies around 75,000. and it's going down to 72,000. um . so there is down to 72,000. um. so there is a real need for to, to recruit and to conscript . but, you know, and to conscript. but, you know, in terms of national service, more personnel. so, so there's a strategic need. you could also argue there's a societal , argue there's a societal, societal need as well in terms of, you know, problems with crime and, and national unity and, and actually getting our you know, our society back together , national service back together, national service back in the, uh, back in the 50s, you know, it was a, a social leveller. it did fosters, you know, some kind of national unity and, and that's, you know, those are two kind of, you know , those are two kind of, you know, key arguments in, in, in this , key arguments in, in, in this, uh, pro argument. >> it's a good it's a good start. it's a tremendous start. and lord, danny, i'll throw it

your way. i mean , i'm almost your way. i mean, i'm almost thinking a kind of thinking about a kind of national service based utopia here this rate. you here at this rate. no. you disagree . well well, um, your disagree. well well, um, your introduction is rather exciting and rather unnecessary and rather like the, um, my, um , rather like the, um, my, um, fellow coast speaker, let's just try and keep this on a on a quiet basis . quiet basis. >> um, national service conscription has not been a function of this country. most of our history. we had it in the first world war. we had it in the second world war. we had it briefly between 1949 and 1963. so it's conscription and national service is not something that's actually part and parcel of british life. now there's a bigger issue which is what is the security situation in going to look like in five, ten, 15 years time? well, none of us know that, but it certainly it's down to the government of the day to day to make sure that we've got enough

manpower and enough equipment to make sure we can play our deterrent role. uh, as part of nato, to make sure that any russian aggression , uh, led by russian aggression, uh, led by vladimir putin is faced down right . right. >> do you just want to push back a bit on you saying that my introduction was a bit unnecessary there? i wish it was my introduction , it's not. my introduction, but it's not. i'm a nato admiral here. i'm quoting a nato admiral here. potential all out war with potential for all out war with russia. then i look at the german defence minister putin could nato in to could attack nato in 5 to 8 years. okay, so there's that side grant shapps our own side of it. grant shapps our own defence secretary, it defence secretary, i think it was was the front was on tuesday, was on the front of saying we're of the times saying that we're going all of this. going to have all of this. finland's new defence secretary two saying two weeks ago was saying literally telling people in finland for war. you finland to prepare for war. you know, this isn't this isn't me. i it doesn't happen. but i hope it doesn't happen. but why the people who are in why are the people who are in positions of power and in the know and i would dare say as well, venture in well, venture lord dannatt in a position to actually stop this from happening. seem to be from happening. they seem to be rolling the wicket for a major conflict, they? lord conflict, don't they? lord

dannatt . dannatt. >> well, i saw, i saw you speaking and i saw you waving your hands . speaking and i saw you waving your hands. um, i heard nothing of what you said. so i think there's a technical issue between gb news and myself in sorted. we'll get we'll get that sorted. we'll get we'll get that sorted . sorted. >> might like to ask your other guest for now. all right. so, chris, sorry. i don't know if you managed hear that. you managed to hear all of that. it appear we are it does appear as though we are having the wicket roles for something big. doesn't it? something quite big. doesn't it? >> mean, as as >> yeah. i mean, i mean, as as i said the other stars said the other day, the stars are aligning they're not. are aligning and they're not. you looking you know, it's not looking really good, particularly good. you've got , you know, russia in you've got, you know, russia in ukraine, you've got iran and their proxies , you know, in their proxies, you know, in terms of hamas, hezbollah , the terms of hamas, hezbollah, the houthis. um, you've got north korea and, and china is also looking at, um, whether whether to invade, uh, taiwan as well . to invade, uh, taiwan as well. um, but but the key to , um, um, but but the key to, um, diminishing the likelihood of, of a major conflict as lord

dannatt said earlier, is, is in our, uh, is in providing deterrence and ensuring that our military posture is robust and also that we have the political will to defend our interests as well. so, so things aren't you know, things are going in the wrong direction, but we can make decisions that will would diminish the likelihood of things getting worse . things getting worse. >> yeah. okay. all right. and when it comes to things like actual national service lord dannatt and we look at crime rates at the moment and we look at a general breakdown, i would argue in national unity, could national service not be a good way of instilling that and getting that back into the population? do you think? >> short answer is no . um, the >> short answer is no. um, the military , um, fulfilled military, um, fulfilled a national requirement between 1949 and 1963. those were the years that we had national service to make sure we had

enough manpower. the police, the end of our colonial period and the end of empire. um, if we want to have a program whereby our young are better educated into their duties as citizens, that's something for the education, for the schools . but, education, for the schools. but, uh, other parts of government to fulfil. it's not a function that the military should be placed on. that said , those who i've on. that said, those who i've met who are part of the national service generation , said they service generation, said they were the best years of their life and they learned many skills . but that, life and they learned many skills. but that, i'm afraid, doesn't mean that the ministry of defence, the army , navy of defence, the army, navy and the force be used as the air force should be used as a national education community development service and actually the infrastructure to do that went years ago. we had depots up and down the country . we had and down the country. we had recruits, were trained in their county areas , in their regional county areas, in their regional areas , the soldiers, sailors and areas, the soldiers, sailors and airmen to come into the armed forces, all that has come, it would be hugely expensive and

totally inappropriate in my view, to do that. so this discussion about national service in the current context is irrelevant. if we have a serious threat to our security , serious threat to our security, well then, my goodness, of course we'll have to then start thinking about recruiting fast and furiously. we'll have to think about recruiting fast and furiously . furiously. >> yeah, i mean, that is a major concern obviously, for a lot of people, chris, you know, do you think you look at some think that when you look at some of leaders or the of the military leaders or the global leaders when it comes to conflicts moment, conflicts at the moment, like the our the head of nato, like our defence secretary, like what's going germany at the going on in germany at the moment? actually moment? the thing i'm actually doing can doing everything they can to avoid three. avoid this world war three. i mean, they're there, mean, they're almost there, almost portraying a mass international conflict as an inevitability. and just kind of expecting to us just accept that. i'm not sure that's that. i'm not really sure that's good it ? good enough. is it? >> um, well, i mean, if you look at their response in terms of ukraine, they, they have provided ukraine with, you know, with equipment and, and they

have managed to help ukraine in, in fending off the russians. there's a question as to whether that's enough. there's a question as to whether they were fast terms of, um, fast enough in terms of, um, equipment like tanks and, and aircraft as well. so so, so there's, there's a kind of a, you know, a mixed record there. um but, but, but we are playing catch up. i would, i would argue we are playing catch up . we've we are playing catch up. we've had 20, 30 years in which the establishment has not really taken defence seriously. it has not spent the levels on defence that that we require and, and, and they're playing catch up and that's why they're furiously kind of manufacturing weapons for, for ukraine. so so, so there's a fascinating there's a fascinating article in the telegraph as well today which was about the potential de—man ization of the military's core base of recruits .

base of recruits. >> right. and so you kind of quote some quotes, traditional working class white boy, and they often are boys at the age where they might at first consider going to the military. we as a society, we have been essentially demonising a lot of those people for a very long penod those people for a very long period can't period of time, and i. i can't help dannatt if help but wonder lord dannatt if that might have had a bit of an issue when it comes to recruitment. >> recruitment big >> well, recruitment is a big issue . there are two factors issue. there are two factors relating to recruitment that makes a particular issue at makes it a particular issue at the present moment. one is that when economy is doing pretty when the economy is doing pretty well and employers debt levels are it makes a real are high, it makes a real challenge for recruitment into the armed forces. the other thing , slightly thing, slightly counterintuitively , is that if counterintuitively, is that if we're not as british forces involved in an active war somewhere, a small campaign somewhere, a small campaign somewhere, then recruitment is low. there's always a section of our young people population who want to pitch themselves, test themselves against what's going on on the international stage and neither of those things pertain at the present moment. so recruitment is a real issue.

but you're underlying point is a very interesting one. um, and there are parallels here with there are parallels here with the 1930s. in there are parallels here with the 19305. in 1935, there are parallels here with the 1930s. in 1935, this country was spending less than 35, less than 3% of its gdp on defence by 1939, when the war had begun, it rocketed up to 18. by 1940, when we were fighting for our survival, it was 46. today we're spending less than 2.3, so the question is, should we spend money on deterring future aggression or just putting our headsin aggression or just putting our heads in the sand and then hoping it doesn't happen ? but my hoping it doesn't happen? but my goodness, if a war does happen , goodness, if a war does happen, we will be looking to divert all our energies, all our resources onto defence. >> no, both of you, thank you very, very much. really fascinating discussion. i appreciate it. it's military historian there, chris newton, who alongside retired senior who was alongside retired senior british army officer lord dannatt. now coming up, it's been a turbulent week for the royal and royal royal family and royal commentator will

commentator pandora forsyth will be giving us a round up. henry has dropped his libel case. what does that really mean? does all of that really mean? apparently he might apparently as well, he might have about have only found out about king charles's illness through the media. but what is it like to live under a labour government? we will be going live to wales to find out why. well, because keir starmer has been quoted flip flopping yet again today, not once, but twice. and should we sue our government, our police or our intelligence forces if they fail to keep us safe from terrorists? i don't know about you, but i'm absolutely sick and tired of terrorists being known to authorities and being allowed into the country in the first place. in some cases. is it time that our politicians or some of those security forces who are told keep us safe, are told to keep us safe, are actually held to account when things go badly wrong? i am, of course, referring to the incident sir david amess, incident of sir david amess, whose daughter is now bringing legal proceedings against the home office, and nicola sturgeon . well, she's in trouble yet

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dispatch . what a week it has dispatch. what a week it has been for the royal family and the extended family, with three senior royals currently out of action. so the princess of wales won't be working until after easter. and unlike his brother prince william has shown family loyalty by taking time off to be with kate and their children. the king, of course, is due to attend hospital next week and has the idea of slimming down the monarchy, now blown up in his face because that was princess anne's reservation about it, wasn't it? if you slimmed down the monarchy, what happens if a situation like this happens? but queen camilla and princess anne are gallantly leading the family forward at the moment, with the duke and duchess sussex ties duchess of sussex cutting ties with the what will this with the firm. what will this mean terms of strain? now, mean in terms of strain? now, additional strain for the royal family. but then there was this bombshell there? bombshell as well, wasn't there? today, withdrew libel today, harry withdrew his libel claim against the publisher of the sunday. the duke of the mail on sunday. the duke of sussex suing associated

sussex was suing associated newspapers an article newspapers over an article published after a decision to change his security arrangements was made. so it's been a busy week . joining me now is royal week. joining me now is royal commentator pandora forsythe. pandora, thank you very much. great you on the show. pandora, thank you very much. grea look you on the show. pandora, thank you very much. grea look , you on the show. pandora, thank you very much. grea look , can ou on the show. pandora, thank you very much. grea look , can iu on the show. pandora, thank you very much. grea look , can i just the show. pandora, thank you very much. grea look , can i just start;how. pandora, thank you very much. grea look , can i just start with um, look, can i just start with the more urgent matter which is prince dropping libel prince harry dropping his libel claim against associated newspapers , is he? he's got to newspapers, is he? he's got to pick up the bill now, as he. i mean, how much? how much is he on hook here? yeah he on the hook for here? yeah he certainly have to pick up certainly does have to pick up the bill. >> he's a very wealthy man. i think we know with his think we all know that with his helicopters all sorts . helicopters and all sorts. sometimes he getting in sometimes he might be getting in those , uh, may he not own them. those, uh, may he not own them. but getting but but he still getting them. but that's nother argument, that's a whole nother argument, which get into . um, which i won't even get into. um, but it will cost allegedly around . £750,000. oh, that's for around. £750,000. oh, that's for his legal fees. and their legal fees. uh but he does have three other cases which he will be bringing , other cases which he will be bringing, uh, other cases which he will be bringing , uh, against others , bringing, uh, against others, um, which i'm sure we'll be

heanng um, which i'm sure we'll be hearing and discuss more on this program at a later date, but this is quite surprised . and i this is quite surprised. and i don't think this is the start of the year that prince harry wanted . he ended last year on wanted. he ended last year on quite a positive note for him against mirror group newspapers with a with a partial win, so i'm not sure in the long terme this is what he wanted , but i'm this is what he wanted, but i'm sure there's always a plan isn't there, with harry? um, and i'm sure he's getting lots of advice as we speak about the other three cases, which will be going through the courts. >> no, indeed. mean, you might >> no, indeed. i mean, you might want that want to question some of that advice, because advice, really, because there was to have strung this was no need to have strung this one as long as one along for as long as possible were going possible if you were just going to drop it at the end and like you there, up on the you said there, end up on the hook for allegedly, anyway, three £1 million hook for allegedly, anyway, three of £1 million hook for allegedly, anyway, three of legal £1 million hook for allegedly, anyway, three of legal fees, million hook for allegedly, anyway, three of legal fees, nthink worth of legal fees, i think people seriously people will be seriously questioning what that level of advice let's also advice was there. but let's also just deal now with this idea of a which a slimmed down monarchy, which potentially right? potentially is backfired, right? because the king who's because we have the king who's got certain issues as we understand it, with an enlarged prostate he for prostate, which i think he for some reason decided to make

public, he public, allegedly because he wanted awareness wanted to raise awareness amongst the male community. fair enough. and you've got kate now . enough. and you've got kate now. now with a somewhat mystery abdominal issue and the knock on effect that that's had with with william as well, what's a slimmed down monarchy? actually, the right thing to do, i suppose he didn't have that much of a choice, did he? if harry is, uh, has done one and prince andrew has done one and prince andrew has done one and prince andrew has done what he's allegedly has done one and prince andrew has d

royals. so i think, you know, if this was going to happen at any time, probably now would be the time, probably now would be the time to do it in the least, you know, in the least disrespectful way possible. they're all rumblings that harry found out about his father's illness through a media bulletin. >> i think there was some claim that he also found out, wasn't there, about the queen's death through, uh, a news bulletin as well. um, firstly, do you believe that? and secondly, if thatis believe that? and secondly, if that is the case, is that just the price he has to pay now for being untrustworthy ? being so untrustworthy? >> this is all speculative , >> this is all speculative, obviously. um, but this is the cost of living on the other side of the world. you're not within, you know, a few miles of one another. you're literally the other side of the world in a completely different time zone. so unfortunately , because you're so unfortunately, because you're not a senior member of the family anymore, i'm not sure where you're going to be in terms of formal arrangements when it comes down to health issues. of course, he is still a

member of the family, but there is business to be done . it member of the family, but there is business to be done. it is a business. they are a working family and of course that will come first, given there extremely huge jobs that they'll have to deal with in an ever changing society . which brings changing society. which brings into question the working royals as a whole . as a whole. >> yeah, absolutely. and i don't think that anybody could expect under moments of stress and health issues and the turmoil going on, you know, that is when a family closes ranks, isn't it? and if somebody has deliberately chosen to operate on the outskirts of that family, then i'm afraid the price that i'm afraid that's the price that you i look, hey , as you get. i mean, look, hey, as well, we wouldn't a well, we wouldn't want a situation, where, you situation, would we, where, you know, one of his know, the king or one of his kind of envoys calls harry. and know, the king or one of his kind before )ys calls harry. and know, the king or one of his kind before you:alls harry. and know, the king or one of his kind before you knowiarry. and know, the king or one of his kind before you know it,y. and know, the king or one of his kind before you know it, hisrnd then before you know it, his articles about articles being written about other prostate other kings, enlarged prostate is actually racist. mean, we is actually racist. i mean, we couldn't have that. couldn't possibly have that. but, very, but, pandora, thank you very, very much as pandora for those , very much as pandora for those, uh, commentator just uh, royal commentator just whizzing you through a whole host different royal stories host of different royal stories there. coming up, what is it like to live under a labour government now? the reason i ask all this is because keir

all of this is because keir starmer has been dropping some serious recently. serious hints recently. right? we've and we've had him rowing back and doing u—turns, more doing so many u—turns, more u—turns boy racer . the u—turns than a boy racer. the latest we've had is on latest one that we've had is on the environment also the environment yet again. also as about his alleged as well about his alleged support, which apparently never was for jeremy corbyn. so support, which apparently never was forjeremy corbyn. so i'm was for jeremy corbyn. so i'm going to be asking what is it actually like to live under a labour government? should we sue our government though and our government though police and intelligence they intelligence forces? if they fail to keep us safe from terrorists? now i've thought about this for a very , very long about this for a very, very long time. you see, all over europe , time. you see, all over europe, you see it here, especially in the uk, when people are either allowed into this country who then go on commit acts of then go on to commit acts of terrorism. that seems to happen. more the continent, more on the continent, doesn't it? or when people are on it? but or when people are on terror lists here terror watch lists over here known to authorities that phrase they authorities they were known to authorities have with the manchester have a link with the manchester arena we've it with arena bombing. we've had it with fishmongers it fishmongers hall, we've had it with you fishmongers hall, we've had it with take your you fishmongers hall, we've had it with take your pick, you fishmongers hall, we've had it with take your pick, right? you fishmongers hall, we've had it with take your pick, right? atou could take your pick, right? at what point do the public actually to here actually have rights to here say, a minute, you are say, hang on a minute, you are not keeping us safe? well, the daughter sir daughter of the late, great sir david amess is actually going to

be that because be testing that theory because she looking to take the home she is looking to take the home office to court and nicola sturgeon. well she's in trouble yet again. i'll be revealing all very shortly. this is patrick christys night. we are only

gb news. this is patrick christys tonight. we're only on gb news now. sir keir starmer is apparently ditching his flagship promise to spend an extra £28 billion every single year on going green . now, that's going green. now, that's according to the sun. so this is what he said, not that long ago. >> finally , a yes or no will the >> finally, a yes or no will the £28 billion investment definitely be in the labour manifesto? >> well, in the way i've just described then. yes of course, yes of course . yes of course. >> um, but it doesn't look like it will be now though, does it? now? a labour party spokesperson has said we are committed to labour's green prosperity plan to drive growth and jobs, to drive growth and create jobs, including plan to ramp up including our plan to ramp up £28 billion of annual investment

in the second half the in the second half of the parliament. so subject to our fiscal rules. yeah, that's it though, isn't it? subject to our fiscal . and when they fiscal rules. and when they realise there any realise that there isn't any flipping money, won't be flipping money, they won't be able now, this week, able to do it. now, this week, the leader of the opposition is also admitted that never also admitted that he never thought win thought jeremy corbyn would win the general election , the 2019 general election, despite in his cabinet and despite being in his cabinet and despite being in his cabinet and despite campaigning for it. he also backtracked on his record with the cps. now keir starmer likes to do something very often at the dispatch box to say i was putting people behind bars , i putting people behind bars, i was doing this, i did that and he's referring, of course, to his role at the cps. but he very rarely takes credit for all the bad things that happened during his time there. okay. and you can't really have it both ways. but he now is admitting mistakes were made when quizzed about the post so what post office scandal. so what is it actually live a it to actually live under a labour government if that's what we're heading towards? all of this indecisiveness . i've got this indecisiveness. i've got a few more things here as well. you know, angela rayner, for example, puts there there as, example, he puts there there as, as deputy. she's incredibly

as his deputy. she's incredibly left wing . she's been muzzled left wing. she's been muzzled hasn't she. they've muzzled angela. we can't scare the voters. angela ah, you're the voters. angela ah, you're on the side unions. are you all side of the unions. are you all right? well, you're allowed right? well, you're not allowed if labour frontbencher, right? well, you're not allowed if go labour frontbencher, right? well, you're not allowed if go labo nearyntbencher, right? well, you're not allowed if go labo near atbencher, right? well, you're not allowed if go labo near a picketar, to go anywhere near a picket line. what are you doing? line. so what are you doing? what with that? what are you doing with that? there's a load of this stuff, you know, free movement. are they movement not? they pro free movement or not? look all of i'm look to discuss all of this. i'm joined welsh conservative joined now by welsh conservative member for clwyd member of the senate for clwyd west. it's darren miller because you have some you actually have some experience of what it's like living a labour government living under a labour government there in wales. i mean, keir starmer does appear to be flip flopping on absolutely everything at the moment, doesn't he . doesn't he. >> is flip flopping . >> well, he is flip flopping. he's flip flopped on a commitment as well that he made, uh, people of the uk when uh, to the people of the uk when he said that he wanted wales to be the blueprint for a uk conservative uk labour government. >> and we know that over here in wales, things are a real mess. you know, we've got the lowest pay you know, we've got the lowest pay packets, longest waiting list and we've got the worst education system in the country .

education system in the country. >> i just think there's a slight problem with your your sound quality there. so we'll just try and get that sorted. all right. and i'm just going to rattle off a couple keir starmer and i'm just going to rattle off a cou some keir starmer and i'm just going to rattle off a cou some the keir starmer and i'm just going to rattle off a cou some the tuition|rmer think some of the tuition fees is an issue as well. so when it comes to what on earth are they going to when it comes to going to do when it comes to secondary schools? camilla tominey this. so tominey is very hot on this. so private right? are you private schools, right? are you going the fees for going to ramp up the fees for private schools or reduce their ability do what ability to anyway, uh, do what they vat basically they do with vat then basically what all of what does that mean for all of the you're going the children that you're going to to dump into the state to have to dump into the state school sector? one of the major issues for starmer now issues for keir starmer now going is something he is going forward is something he is continually going to be hammered about election . about until the next election. is his or was his is his support, or was his support of jeremy corbyn if he never really thought that corbyn could win? is that his way out ? could win? is that his way out? is that him trying to say, well, look, i never really thought i was to win, didn't was going to win, so i didn't mind campaigning this mind campaigning for this guy. you him flip you know, we had him flip flopping brexit for flopping over brexit as well for quite a while. didn't we. he was there that look, there saying that look, we accept result of the accept the result of the referendum. people to referendum. the people voted to leave we're

leave and now absolutely, we're going that going to have to respect that view and then all of a sudden, before you knew it, there was talk of labour essentially being on side of there being on the side of there being a second referendum. um, and labour side of labour being on the side of remaining that second remaining during that second referendum. so what was it? could actually really could that guy actually really be trusted? gb views gb news.com . and there's quite a lot more to go out here as well with this £28 billion a year to save the planet. so after months and months of eternal and external pressure, starmer's shadow chancellor rachel reeves, she watered down this initial pledge , which was made in 2021, £28 billion a year in green technologies. so that's what they're saying . we need this. they're saying. we need this. it's our great big green deal. we're going to be doing it okay. well then they've done the old reverse ferry on it haven't they. because they've well they. because they've said, well we essentially bankrupt we will not essentially bankrupt the to do it. the country in order to do it. now fair great. now that's fair enough. great. don't in don't bankrupt the country in order it. that is order to do it. that is fantastic. but but , order to do it. that is fantastic. but but, but but why say that you are going to do it if you are, then not going to be

able to. i think we're having a little bit of a trouble trying to get back to, uh, david miller there. but what i will do is just tee up one of the topics that i've coming your way that i've got coming your way very, shortly, because very, very shortly, because i know matters to lot of know this matters to a lot of people. is people. all right. which is about not we should about whether or not we should be to sue our government be able to sue our government and police or our and our police or our intelligence forces if they fail to safe from terrorists. to keep us safe from terrorists. now across continental europe, we've seen issues with, say, the bataclan , right, or with bataclan, right, or with a variety of different shootings. in france. there was one in brussels very recently. again all of those were known to security services before. we have had it here as well, where we've had khuram butt, for example, who was one of the people responsible for the london terror attacks. london bridge terror attacks. now documentary now he appeared in a documentary on couple of years on channel 4 a couple of years before called, before his attack, called, rather some would rather helpfully, some would argue jihadi next during argue jihadi next door during which they unfurled a giant isis flag in regent's park in broad daylight in london. right. nothing was done about this. the police did attend that scene, and then they just left. in

fact, they let them walk away. nothing was done about that. when we see what's going on at the with small boats the moment, with small boats crossing and people coming into this who this country who are undocumented well, when all undocumented as well, when all of this backfires. all right . is of this backfires. all right. is it not okay for the public to want to hold people to account for that? and in the case of sir david amess, unfortunately for sir he lost sir david, of course, he lost his life. right. and the individual who did stab him to death during his surgery an death during his surgery in an islamist attack was known to authorities . and so his daughter authorities. and so his daughter is looking to sue the home office for this. what is the point prevent if it's not point of prevent if it's not going to safe? i would going to keep us safe? i would going to keep us safe? i would go step further. i would sue go one step further. i would sue politicians who have allowed through their ridiculous ideologies, have allowed us to be rendered less safe in this country. i would sue them. i want to know your views on that gb views our gbnews.com. i'll be joined by former barrister and politician neil hamilton for the latest on that. and i'll be telling you why nicola sturgeon is in a whole world trouble

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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. and this is patrick christys tonight. bomb threats, bricks through windows , threats, bricks through windows, arson. teachers threatened with beheading dragged to the high court. this is happening right now in britain at schools who refuse to bend to the will of islamism. talking of islamism, should we sue our government, our police and intelligence forces if they fail to keep us safe from terrorists? and nicola sturgeon is in trouble again , i sturgeon is in trouble again, i am a cooperating fully and constructively with the inquiry . constructively with the inquiry. >> i am committed to full transparency . transparency. >> transparency about what nicola, is it your husband's finances? is it the mysterious motorhome ? is it the snp's motorhome? is it the snp's finances ? oh no. she's deleted finances? oh no. she's deleted all covid whatsapp messages. so that she couldn't be held to account, which is great news for

her, of course. and in fact, we've managed to come across some leaked footage of sturgeon celebrating . but the vidosic celebrating. but the vidosic panda v dozy panda happy dozy. >> yeah, that's all right. >> yeah, that's all right. >> yes, i'll have all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you today as well. in our press and on the panel press pack and on the panel tonight, it is the on tonight, it is the mail on sunday's editor at large, charlotte former bbc charlotte griffiths. former bbc political john sergeant and political guru john sergeant and ex—labour . stella ex—labour party adviser. stella kidd, who are and find out what celebrity has spent £600,000 on these teeth. seriously, 600 grand for a bit of tin foil over your mouth. unbelievable. are your mouth. unbelievable. are you ready, britain? here we go. is a radical muslim mafia holding this country's education system to ransom all of that? after the . news. patrick

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on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . patrick. >> we must never allow islamic ideology to dictate to us in this country what goes on in our schools . we have two very schools. we have two very serious incidents taking place right now where mafia style tactics are being used by elements of the muslim community to try to enforce their will onto everybody else. firstly remember this incident at berkeley primary school in east london, where activists shut down the school because a child was asked to stop wearing a palestine flag to the school . palestine flag to the school. okay, shame on you, berkeley berkeley , shame on you . yeah, berkeley, shame on you. yeah, i'll slightly question why that person has come dressed as some kind weird palestinian dog kind of weird palestinian dog there. there we go. well, there. but there we go. well, now the school is saying that it might have to actually close permanent. that's update permanent. so that's the update today. school now today. that school might now have to permanently and have to close permanently and revert teaching revert to online teaching because there have been threats to burn the school down. there

have threats to the have been bomb threats to the school individual staff. school and individual staff. racist phone calls have been made to the school, written threats have been delivered. i mean, extremely them. they mean, it's extremely them. they say that banning parents from dressing their eight year old child up as palestinian flag child up as the palestinian flag is some ways lama phobic , and is in some ways lama phobic, and they shut a school down and they will shut a school down and make threats kill if they make threats to kill if they don't it's don't get their way. it's not normal . that don't get their way. it's not normal. that is not normal . we normal. that is not normal. we go now to the michaela academy , go now to the michaela academy, run by katharine birbalsingh, a renowned head teacher. that school is now in the high court. why well, because they banned prayer rituals for every single religious and every single religion, saying that if multiculturalism was going to work, then everyone needed to make sacrifices for the sake of the whole community. shock horror. one muslim pupil in reality , i suspect it's almost reality, i suspect it's almost definitely the parents. but anyway, decided to bring this to the high court, saying that it actually only really affects muslim pupils because of the nature of their prayer i.e. that

they don't sit silently in a corner and pray amongst themselves like, say, a christian might. that's their argument , okay? christian might. that's their argument, okay? but it isn't just this court case, though, is it? because police had to be called after claims that bomber had been placed at the school , had been placed at the school, glass bottles were over glass bottles were thrown over the school railings, a brick was put through a teacher's window and staff were quotes. fearing for their lives . and staff were quotes. fearing for their lives. i mean, again, this is not normal, is it? now, apparently pupils were putting pressure on girls to wear headscarves and be, more headscarves and be, quote, more observant . we saw incidents like observant. we saw incidents like batley grammar school, where hordes of men turned up outside the gates and threatened the school gates and threatened to who is now in to kill a teacher who is now in permanent because he permanent hiding because he allegedly elements of allegedly offended elements of the community. there the muslim community. there there was a primary school in birmingham . they included birmingham. they included aspects lgbt education as aspects of lgbt education as part of an anti—bullying programme. this was back in 2019, i believe again , when 2019, i believe again, when a mob turned up. they even brought a mobile billboard with them at one point. it's actually aggressively promoting them,

giving it a positive spin and telling people that it is okay for you to be muslim and for you to be gay. >> mr moffat . shame, shame , >> mr moffat. shame, shame, shame, shame . shame, shame. >> one parent, articulate . it's >> one parent, articulate. it's better than i ever could. how there is clearly a desire to shape our education system around the whims of an interpretation of the islamic faith . and don't teach our faith. and don't teach our children that gay is okay, because in islam , gay is not because in islam, gay is not okay. >> but right? we are living through a turning point right now, aren't we? >> we cannot have our education system dictated to us to suit one specific religion. we absolutely should not be changing our way of life to bend to the will of fundamentalists in fact, it should be the other way round. actually. now there are between 57 and 49 muslim countries in the world, depending on what measure you

use to calculate that, that is quite lot of countries. and quite a lot of countries. and there that's there are options there. that's all saying . if that's what all i'm saying. if that's what you are really wanting for you and family now, here in and your family now, here in britain, i want to make this as clear as i possibly can. we should be tolerant, respectful , should be tolerant, respectful, kind and welcoming . and i really kind and welcoming. and i really do think that we are . but we do think that we are. but we should not be forced to change school policy because of mafia style religious intimidation . style religious intimidation. let's get the thoughts now of my panel on this guy. editor at large at the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths got former bbc chief political correspondent sergeant, correspondent john sergeant, a former stella former labour adviser stella translucida. and look , john, translucida. and look, john, i'll start with you on this one. just to mix up a little bit. just to mix it up a little bit. we have got quite we have got two quite significant taking place significant issues taking place here. certainly one in the here. certainly the one in the high . you that we high court. do you think that we are of bending our are at risk of bending our education system to suit the fundamentals of certain people, do you think? >> no, think the big danger is >> no, i think the big danger is to is to make it a battlefield. and what you've got to and and what you've got to try and do, and sure headteachers do, and i'm sure headteachers feel get an

feel this is to get an agreement, particularly with the parents, so that everybody realises the consequences of this . now, realises the consequences of this. now, one of the realises the consequences of this . now, one of the people realises the consequences of this. now, one of the people in the first case we're talking about, the eight year old with a palestinian un flag on his uniform, on his clothes . palestinian un flag on his uniform, on his clothes. he goes to school. his mother is from gaza. she gets very upset about this and insists the child goes child is then removed. now this is a case where clearly if you would get the mother to calm down a bit and realise that you cannot have these battles going on. however strongly she may feel about gaza , that you cannot feel about gaza, that you cannot bnng feel about gaza, that you cannot bring these argument it's there may be jewish children at the school too. what you mustn't do is to have children wearing badges which exacerbate the problem. but i'm sure the key to it is not so much the courts and all sorts of demonstrations and all sorts of demonstrations and all the rest of it , all sorts of demonstrations and all the rest of it, but to go gently. but the key thing is for the head teachers to talk to the parents, making sure that all the parents understand what's

going on. and if the children are then sent with badges on them, which they send them home, send them home. >> but this is the situation i agree. centre of special schools. we're ahead of this. so that's it. unfortunately we're now 3 or 4 stages ahead of this because charlotte, we have got it you know, threats, it since you know, bomb threats, bncks it since you know, bomb threats, bricks put through windows threatening phone calls. this is intimidation isn't it. >> it's so intimidating. intimidation isn't it. >> it's so intimidating . and you >> it's so intimidating. and you know, one of the really sad stories about the other school, the michaela school, is that one of the little girls was in the choir and she got intimidated into leaving school choir. into leaving the school choir. so sing anymore so she can't sing anymore because intimidation that because of the intimidation that goes at. and what you were goes on at. and what you were saying about the parents? well, the is the michaela school is profoundly to be profoundly set up to be multicultural, they've got multicultural, and they've got numerous place, such numerous things in place, such as fully vegetarian as being fully vegetarian so that cultural group feels that no cultural group feels excluded in the lunch queue. i mean, it's profound . we, the mean, it's profound. we, the teachers have explained to the parents time and time again it's, know, the parents it's, you know, it's the parents know that, you know, you leave all that at the school gates. the is a sanctuary, not

the school is a sanctuary, not a tinderbox . yes. tinderbox. yes. >> um, stella, your views on this, i mean, how can it be justified to have people mobbing up and harassing teachers , up and harassing teachers, calling in bomb threats, putting bncks calling in bomb threats, putting bricks through things, etc. because they feel as though they're particular interpretation of their religion has been offended. >> harassment and bullying is never justified , and i never neverjustified, and i never think that you can. you have the right to bully anyone or harass anyone because you feel that any part of your identity has been offended . but we are discussing offended. but we are discussing separate issues here and very different cases . so people different cases. so people harassing teachers is one thing. and eight year old, whose mother is from gaza, who's had family members who died coming in wearing a patch of the palestinian flag, that's a whole different issue. students wanting to talk about politics, parents being political themselves , parents being themselves, parents being religious and students being religious. again, another topic. >> what can i just say ? i >> what can i just say? i actually don't think it's that different because it always culminates in exactly the same

thing, which is a group of people who majority of them identify as , as members of the identify as, as members of the muslim community shouting and threatening at the school . threatening at the school. >> actually, patrick, um, uh, what i have heard is from a friend of mine who is a teacher is that last year when prevent was giving them a presentation at school, they were at their school, they were saying one, saying that their number one, uh, on the list of priorities, their number one concern is with white british nationalism . yeah. white british nationalism. yeah. so that is what i heard . so that is what i heard. >> that's factually incorrect because what they say is it's the fastest growing terror threat in this country. but unfortunately, by far and away the islamist terrorism. the largest islamist terrorism. i'm going let deflect i'm not going to let you deflect the on that one, the conversation on on that one, john. i'm just going to come back to you on this. do you think do have think that we do have a difficulty moment difficulty at the moment at being to other being sensitive to other people's cultures and religions, as we should be, but also not wanting to give in to them in terms of extremism? >> oh no, it's difficult, of course it's difficult. um, but

there are things that can be gained by it. there are things in which if you can make it work, that's a tremendous triumph. i mean, it's to easy say, oh, i know what you do. we'll close down the schools, we'll bring the police in. but there are times when you've got to stick no politics. make to stick to no politics. make sure the eight year olds do not have political badges of any kind. and you just say, that's it. now, what they're doing in france is they're so worried about this that the latest plan in france is for there to be a national all school uniform . i national all school uniform. i mean, well, after a bit that's a counsel of despair to say we really cannot. it is impossible for us to run any school. luckily, we're only talking about a few schools at the moment. there are many schools, in fact, where it does work, where the relationship between the school and the parents is strong enough because that's what it amounts to. i'm worried that makes absolutely now because, well, it will, but i know, but what you've got to do is to make don't take it up through the system and try not

to make it into a battlefield. isn't it? because, yes. otherwise you can have people fighting all day. you could have the woman from gaza coming into the woman from gaza coming into the school shouting, well, this is it, isn't it? >> the the school to >> the role of the school to teach how to have teach children how to have a civilised conversation and a civilised conversation and a civilised debate ? civilised debate? >> well, you can't do it. >> well, you can't do it. >> you can't do it. >> but if you're saying that all of schools is, always of all schools is, it's always been , incredibly strict. >> so if they can't even keep their and yet they hit the. >> and yet this headteachers is so she wants to so politically she wants to depoliticise classroom in depoliticise every classroom in her school. she to make her school. she wants to make sure no students express any political opinions, no herself. no. she's showing credible political. >> she's sick of me . moderate >> she's sick of me. moderate students in that school being forced to become more quotes and quotes. observant. there was a girl that never used to wear a headscarf at that school, but we don't know. wearing a headscarf, which but that's not which sorry, but that's not normal. and it doesn't have. >> hasn't any evidence >> she hasn't given any evidence that there that what happened there was that what happened there was that pick it that student did not pick it herself wear the headscarf. herself to wear the headscarf. i'm i do not know i'm not suggesting i do not know what happened she

what happened there, but she didn't evidence. didn't give any evidence. i've heard listened her heard. i've i've listened to her interviews . she doesn't have any interviews. she doesn't have any evidence this. all her evidence for this. all her evidence for this. all her evidence one day girl was evidence is one day the girl was not is using stellar not wearing is using stellar right argue their case in the right to argue their case in the court is saying that as evidence. >> so that is that is what they're saying. if you your they're saying. if you want your kid political badge, kid to wear a political badge, you surprised if the you don't be surprised if the kid removed the school . kid is removed from the school. >> broadly speaking >> it's really, broadly speaking , that is the only deterrent you've got. use it. >> think, charlotte, that >> do you think, charlotte, that there is a concern that maybe people are afraid of being called islamophobic , for called islamophobic, for example, and therefore they don't want to push back on things? >> definitely. that's why the head teacher at michaela is so brave because she does push back. but she's very , very rare. back. but she's very, very rare. there many headmasters there aren't many headmasters and that and headmistresses that do that kind thing, it's really kind of thing, and it's a really difficult subject, for to difficult subject, even for to us talk about, because you don't want step on any awkward want to step on any awkward territories, but but, you know, the michaela the fact that the michaela school is actually thriving for multiculturalism. not multiculturalism. she's not saying i want everyone to be christians. she's saying the exact opposite. saying exact opposite. she's saying i want just along want everyone just to get along and at no matter

and to feel at home no matter where they're from or what their religion and that has to be religion is. and that has to be the priority. yeah >> it is it is >> it does look, it is it is an absolute minefield. you absolute minefield. but, you know, shy know, we certainly don't shy away on this away from them here on this show. coming up, nicola show. look, coming up, nicola sturgeon's messages sturgeon's whatsapp messages dunng sturgeon's whatsapp messages during pandemic appear to during the pandemic appear to have i'll be have been deleted. i'll be discussing panel discussing that with my panel again very shortly. and shall we sue police sue our government? our police or intelligence forces if or our intelligence forces if they keep us safe from they fail to keep us safe from terrorists ? and my press pack, terrorists? and my press pack, they're chomping at the bit to debate and tomorrow's debate and dissect tomorrow's newspaper it's the newspaper front pages. it's the kind of entertaining paper have you show that frankly, will you show that you, frankly, will not else on telly. not get anywhere else on telly. this is patrick christys tonight,

>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news who's . news who's. >> this is patrick christys. tonight we're only on gb news now. the daughter of sir david amess who's suing a police force and home office after the failure to stop the terrorists which killed him in 2021. this incident is one of many in which the authorities is supposed to protect us. failed. now, i appreciate they can't get it right all the time and that we don't hear about a lot of the times that they do manage to stop us from being attacked. but the manchester arena bombing, london bridge attacks, they were caused by people regarded as low risk by british security services overseas attacks in berlin and paris were instigated by individual who had international arrest warrants in their name. should we be able to sue security forces or even the families of the people involved

who caused these terrorist incidents? should we be able to sue politicians if it is their ideology that has led to this? for example, the case of angela merkel in germany throwing open the borders to x amount of mostly men from, say , syria, for mostly men from, say, syria, for example, if that backfires and there is an attack as a result of that, or somebody dies as a result of that, should we, the plebs, be able to sue somebody over that? joining me is over that? joining me now is former and former mp former barrister and former mp neil hamilton. neil, thank you very much. it's great to have you on the show . i've been you on the show. i've been thinking this for a very long time don't time right, because i don't really there any really think there is any accountability when it comes to people being attacked and dying or having their way, their fundamental way of life changed as a result of terrorists who are known to authorities or in some cases were allowed in. despite being on a terror watch list, etc. do we have any kind of legal recourse here?

>> well, in for order the amos case to succeed , they'll have to case to succeed, they'll have to prove that there was reasonable and probable cause to believe that there was some connection between the police not arresting the killer and the murder itself . it seems to me this is a highly speculative case because what we know about harbin, the killer in this case, was he didn't really have any background of extremism. indeed, his parents fled from their home country because of death threats to them. um, and by islamic extremists . and yes, it was extremists. and yes, it was known that he was doing internet searches about islamic jihad. but in secret at home. um, and he was a suspect. but it's a long step from that to say that it was very likely that he was actually going to go out and

murder somebody, uh, even somebody like david amess, who might have been regarded as a target. i think actually here, the greater , uh, neglect is on the greater, uh, neglect is on the greater, uh, neglect is on the part of the house of commons for not providing proper security for mps in their surgery is because there have been a number of cases of mps who were attacked in their surgeries. steve timms, a labour mp , um, and also , um, nigel mp, um, and also, um, nigel jones , a liberal mp whose mp jones, a liberal mp whose mp charleton way back in 2010, uh, david amess only had two girls staffers in his office. there was no other , uh, person there was no other, uh, person there who could have come to his assistance. so looking at it from a legal perspective, it's rather difficult looking at it from a political perspective. i think we have to ask ourselves, what have we done to our country 7 what have we done to our country ? uh, because 15% of our population today was born outside the united kingdom. that's twice what it was ten years ago, when it was only 7.5.

in 2011, there were 4 million muslims in this country 4% of the population. in 2021 that had gone up to six. and a half percent. we have population projections say that in 2050 it will be 13 million in, you know, our own, what you might call indigenous population is set to become , um, a minority in our become, um, a minority in our own country within the lifetime of people nowadays. >> yeah . look, neal, i take what >> yeah. look, neal, i take what you're saying right. there is an important distinction to be had between the demographic change important distinction to be had betvthei the demographic change important distinction to be had betvthe rapidiemographic change important distinction to be had betvthe rapid rate graphic change important distinction to be had betvthe rapid rate ofiphic change important distinction to be had betvthe rapid rate of it,ic change important distinction to be had betvthe rapid rate of it, which1ge and the rapid rate of it, which we do discuss times this and the rapid rate of it, which we doand uss times this and the rapid rate of it, which we doand also times this and the rapid rate of it, which we doand also the times this and the rapid rate of it, which we doand also the actual, this and the rapid rate of it, which we doand also the actual, like,iis show. and also the actual, like, threat and loss of life and who who is to blame for that. and that's the kind of parameters of this discussion. but just, just on that, you look at the stratum , right and the , uh, attacker. right and the only reason he was the stratum attacker was because he happened. he literally just happened. he literally just happened to be in stretham at the time. but this guy was released prison. was under released from prison. was under surveillance like , nigh on 24 surveillance like, nigh on 24 hour surveillance, and went into a shop, nicked a knife, stabbed

a shop, nicked a knife, stabbed a couple of people. thankfully, neither of them died, but still , neither of them died, but still, you know, and you think, well , you know, and you think, well, if i was one of the victims, i'd want to be suing someone for this. i would. you've got this guy who's been in prison for terror offences who is out and is deemed so dangerous that you have 24 over seven, have to watch in 24 over seven, he's to nick a knife and he's able to nick a knife and then stab with it. where then stab me with it. where is then stab me with it. where is the accountability this? the accountability for this? well you just have to prove that this is a person who should have been kept in custody. >> each case, of course, >> now, each case, of course, has to be decided on its own facts. you can't generalise where you're trying to fix legal responsibility upon somebody. for some dreadful event . i don't for some dreadful event. i don't know enough about the facts of any of these individual cases to be able to judge even the amos case. except, you know, i've read a little bit about that because it's been discussed on gb recently . and, gb news recently. and, christine, i was briefing christine, i was briefing christine for to talk about it the other day. um, but, uh, the there is a serious question of

response ability, obviously in each of these cases . each of these cases. >> um, but could i ask neil, could i ask neil a slightly wider caution because we're not we're going to end up we're wider caution because we're not we'igoing going to end up we're wider caution because we're not we'igoing toing to end up we're wider caution because we're not we'igoing to endo end up we're wider caution because we're not we'igoing to end upnd up we're wider caution because we're not we'igoing to end up being we're wider caution because we're not we'igoing to end up being able not going to end up being able to take like an entire political class court, right. but, you class to court, right. but, you know, look at what's know, when you look at what's happened in continental happened in, in continental europe, people happened in, in continental europe, ordinary people happened in, in continental europe, ordinary citizenseople happened in, in continental europe, ordinary citizens are le are now ordinary citizens are now what idiots have now reaping what idiots have sowed for them. everyone could have seen this coming. everyone could see it is not normal to have people riding around brussels on a moped with an ak 47, killing people in the name of goodness knows who, right? that normal, but that is not normal, but but political ideology allowed that to happen in continental europe. some people will say, well, the way you hold them to account is you vote them out right. and maybe that's that. but i just feel like maybe some politicians should feel the full feel like maybe some politicians shoulof feel the full feel like maybe some politicians shoulof the feel the full feel like maybe some politicians shoulof the law. eel the full force of the law. >> , i agree that if you can >> well, i agree that if you can establish a direct line of personal responsibility for some dreadful event, then the law provides a remedy and it should

take its course. it's difficult in to order establish that in many of these cases . but the many of these cases. but the bigger question is the cultural change which has come about in europe in very recent times. speed of the transformation of our populations. speed of the transformation of our populations . and yes, of our populations. and yes, of course, obviously most muslims , course, obviously most muslims, the overwhelming majority of muslims are peaceable people , muslims are peaceable people, but there is a substantial minority of islamic extremists , minority of islamic extremists, absolute religious nutters who are prepared not just to reject the norms of western society and the norms of western society and the tolerance which is our watchword , but also want watchword, but also want actually to destroy us. and this is what's happening to our country. i'm afraid you know, this is a subject which people have been too afraid to discuss for too long. i'm old enough to remember back in 1968, when enoch powell first drew attention to this as an issue, where he said in that speech, it is like watching a nation heaping up its own funeral pyre. well, it's taken a long time for that pyre to ignite. now it's

happening . maybe now our happening. maybe now our politicians will wake up. or i have to say, i see no sign of that on the part of the current government and the political class which surrounds them. and this is an absolute tragedy. the people of this country actually have take into their own have to take into their own hands the responsibility for ensuring that our politicians listen to them. >> it's difficult . it's >> it's difficult. it's incredibly difficult because , incredibly difficult because, you know, we do end up therefore, unfortunately , therefore, unfortunately, seeing, know, an increase in seeing, you know, an increase in in far right ideology that can then be a bit of a chicken and 999 then be a bit of a chicken and egg situation, etc. but i think, you know, it would just be a really, really nice thing if politicians , politicians and politicians, politicians and security forces did didn't, didn't make easy own goal mistakes like you know, not having any idea who's coming over here. and the chunnel, for example, or things like that. just stuff like that would be quite, be quite nice, quite, would be quite nice, i think. it. think. neil, wouldn't it. >> i agree, it >> well, i agree, isn't it absolutely fantastic, nick, that we grant visas 1.3 we grant people visas1.3 million last year and we don't have any idea where they go when

those visas expire. >> we keep no records of people who leave this country. so we have absolutely no idea how many people are wandering around our country with no legal right to be here. it's not just the people arriving today or yesterday by small boats. it's the millions who have arrived perfectly lawfully, but then have overstay paid and we don't know who they are, where they are, or what they're doing. uh, you know, this is a culpable negligence a very extraordinary. >> that's the phrase it's culpable negligence, as you said. and that is why it brings us back to we us right back to where we started conversation. neil, started this conversation. neil, thank much. is on thank you very much. which is on you point, if this you know, at some point, if this goes wrong affects you goes badly wrong and affects you in way of life and it in your way of life and it affects someone who's close to you, mean, why you, i mean, this is why i wanted talk about it wanted to talk about it. is it ever possible to try and actually hold someone to account for like you for for that, like you would, for example, if example, in the workplace if something but something bad happened? but neil, much. neil neil, thank you very much. neil hamilton barrister hamilton there, former barrister and negligence i and mp culpable negligence i think is a is a very, very good way of describing this and it does frustrate the living hell

out of me that we don't seem to be able to hold anybody's feet to the fire when things go badly wrong. how many more lives have to lost as a result of people to be lost as a result of people making mistakes ? whether it's making mistakes? whether it's not enforcing the prevent system, it's not enforcing our borders. whatever it is. but anyway, up , i'll tell you anyway, coming up, i'll tell you what really went on here as a plane was seen spitting fire from its engines. but next it is time for our press pack where we're to be whizzing you we're going to be whizzing you through all of tomorrow's newspaper tonight. newspaper front pages tonight. i'll see you

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though. frankly, the i public verdict on rwanda pm's plan won't work or win power for the tories poll says. yep um, i mean, a lot of tories think that, don't they? although i can't help but feel as though if we'd have just done it initially, then maybe it would have now. but there we have worked by now. but there we go. going over to go. i think i'm going over to the now. yeah. not? the star now. yeah. why not? the popes exorcist politicians are possessed and big bosses are a bit suspect the pope's bit suspect too. the pope's exorcist beast exorcist believe that beast beelzebub ? yep. often possessed beelzebub? yep. often possessed politician and bosses. it's the last, least surprising news story. you'll read today. apparently, our politicians are satanists . not my views. the satanists. not my views. the views of the pope's exorcist. um, let's just zone in now on the uk being gripped by the measles crisis, i'm joined by my panel again. charlotte, you're saying this has got you all talking green room? talking in the green room? >> yeah, because people are so selfish. aren't they getting selfish. why aren't they getting vaccinated? we literally didn't have short years have measles a few short years ago, and now we're having a terrible measles crisis because people are so selfish, they won't their children. won't vaccinate their children. and think i every and they think i have every right not to my children

right not to get my children jabbed me, me. we jabbed me, me, me, me, me. we all vaccines work all know how vaccines work because of the pandemic. you vaccinate and your vaccinate yourself and your children whole children to protect the whole nation. to know why nation. and i'd like to know why it london and the west it is that london and the west midlands letting country midlands are letting the country down, apparently down, because that's apparently where they're the least vaccinations. know, we've vaccinations. so you know, we've got to come together as a nation. >> i do wonder whether or not the mentioned pandemic the you mentioned the pandemic there. not there. i wonder whether or not there. i wonder whether or not the vaccines were the the way that vaccines were the perception anyway, in some cases, people felt very forced into getting a vaccine. they felt a lot of pressure onto it. and whether or not that is now having a knock on effect where people are turning down a vaccine has actually been vaccine that has actually been around and used around for a lot longer and used to, and people are more used to it. i see you nodding your head. go on. what were you thinking? >> i think i think that >> yeah, i think i think that because the public has been >> yeah, i think i think that becauseconflicting has been >> yeah, i think i think that becauseconflicting publiczen getting conflicting public health messages throughout the pandemic and because there were all of these extremely controversial issues and controversial people issues and people like they did not people felt like they did not have control over their own health they did not health care, and they did not have access to information that they could trust . or least they could trust. or at least they could trust. or at least they like that . and there they felt like that. and there were many times where the

were so many times where the government would say one thing, one thing the experts would say another , pundits would another, the pundits would say another, the pundits would say another , and then the another thing, and then the pubuc another thing, and then the public would feeling public would be left feeling like they no control . like they had no control. >> this isn't a brand new vaccine like , you know, the vaccine like, you know, the vaccine. like, is vaccine. we're like, what is this this this new thing? this is this vaccine around for vaccine has been around for decades. fine. we know it's decades. it's fine. we know it's fine. yeah. fine. yeah yeah. >> also, it's very much a, you know, a change. obviously in my lifetime when we were lifetime i've seen when we were kids, have vaccine. kids, you had to have a vaccine. that your public duty. and that was your public duty. and parents thought that. and children certainly couldn't say i'm not going to have it. children certainly couldn't say i'm not going to have it . yeah. i'm not going to have it. yeah. and what's astonishing and what's, what's astonishing i think, feeling oh, think, is the feeling that, oh, there's option in, you know, there's an option in, you know, maybe i'll have this maybe i won't. instead of feeling right. it's. so you're refusing when in fact, this whole illness in britain was wiped out in 2016. so, i mean , you know, the idea so, i mean, you know, the idea that that let's discuss it is, oh, i have a right to my own body and people have a right to this. people are proud of this useless. its use the word right. >> do you think i see the word

right? >> they use the word. i've got an opinion. i can have a good an opinion. i read it on facebook. i've. i've had this message. i've. i've had this message. i've seen this i think i think i think a lot of it. >> really seriously think, >> i do really seriously think, you a lot of the people you know, a lot of the people who were really pushing the covid know , i'm not covid vaccine, you know, i'm not getting conversation getting into a conversation about, the and about, you know, the ins and outs it all of that outs of it and all of that stuff. i think i'm talking about it in terms of the public psychology of it. right. psychology aspect of it. right. i to i think they have quite a lot to answer now when it comes to answer for now when it comes to answer for now when it comes to a lot of people maybe refusing to thati a lot of people maybe refusing to that i think the to do things that i think the vast people vast majority of people would regard responsible to regard as being responsible to do right. getting your child vaccinated against measles and but but i think there are people to blame in terms of how we've ended up here. and i just want to you guys bit of a clip to show you guys a bit of a clip of, um, so our prime minister, rishi sunak gets gets a, gets a battering, right ? i give rishi sunak gets gets a, gets a battering, right? i give him a battering. uh fairly regularly on here, mostly about the immigration issue, it must be said. but but sky news decided to. well, some would say stitch

him up a little bit earlier today , there was quite heavily today, there was quite heavily edhed today, there was quite heavily edited clip of rishi sunak that went out. i think we've got i think we've got the clip. have we let's, let's, let's do it, let's do it. >> you could make it all go back to how it used to be, where we had no, literally no . had no, literally no. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but where we had and if you had a problem you could go to the hospital . my daughter. yeah. the hospital. my daughter. yeah. yeah spent the next seven hours waiting right. >> so that clip just looks as though , to be honest, our prime though, to be honest, our prime minister essentially laughs in the face of a woman who was a former health care professional and off, which is not and then walks off, which is not and then walks off, which is not a great look. okay. and but that was clip that was an edited clip and that clip did rounds. a lot of did the rounds. and a lot of journalists and a lot of labour party politicians. yes were putting there , but there putting it out there, but there is longer that does end is a longer clip that does end up with him actually walking and talking with woman. and talking with that woman. and indeed hand as well. indeed shaking her hand as well. i we show at least i think we can show the at least the handshake . the handshake. >> i hope, apart from the junior

doctors who have , uh, are still doctors who have, uh, are still not saying yes, but everyone else has yes. else has said yes. >> thank you. >> so thank you. >> so thank you. >> i'm about to put £1 billion into. >> yeah, i felt a bit sorry for rishi there. i must say. just just got quite a tough time. but isuppose just got quite a tough time. but i suppose it's the perils of being out in public. not quite a gordon brown moment. you must remember that. >> that, no. when >> i do remember that, no. when he. realise was the he. he didn't realise he was the mic was on him and he accused a woman of being bigoted. and of course, an enormously woman of being bigoted. and of courseffect. an enormously woman of being bigoted. and of courseffect. and an enormously woman of being bigoted. and of courseffect. and some ormously woman of being bigoted. and of courseffect. and some people ly woman of being bigoted. and of courseffect. and some people say poor effect. and some people say it lost in the election. well, no, lose anyway. no, he was going to lose anyway. but it just shows the perils but it it just shows the perils of all this . but also it shows of all this. but also it shows how increasingly people can fake stuff up. we're going to enter when the next election really gets underway . people have got gets underway. people have got to be very, very clear. is this a real picture or has it been photoshopped or however you want to describe it? and that that problem will grow and grow ? problem will grow and grow? >> yeah. body language. in the second half of that clip, he actually after shaking her hand, he towards her. he's he leans in towards her. so he's like, actually to like, he's actually trying to continue the conversation. his

body language completely body language is just completely different. clip. different. in the second clip. >> yeah, we've we've got it >> yeah, we've got we've got it here. can see know and here. you can see you know and it's the it's the water. because i i only saw the, the first i saw i only saw the, the first one first thing this morning. i saw i only saw the, the first one openthing this morning. i saw i only saw the, the first one open up|g this morning. i saw i only saw the, the first one open up twitternorning. i saw i only saw the, the first one open up twitter and ing. i saw i only saw the, the first one open up twitter and you see i saw i only saw the, the first onyandzn up twitter and you see i saw i only saw the, the first onyandznthoughtter and you see i saw i only saw the, the first onyandznthoughtter and yheck. a it. and i thought flipping heck. he's really quite he's he's been really quite rude there. and is go on. there. and that is go on. >> it's not fake clip. the >> it's not a fake clip. the first right. just that first one right. it's just that they show the they didn't show the continuation. removed continuation. just removed the context. yeah. i'm sorry context. yeah. so i'm sorry but still being incredibly still he's being incredibly awkward . that going to be awkward. and that is going to be awkward. and that is going to be a problem it's to a massive problem. it's going to be long campaign . if be a really long campaign. if i was tory campaign manager, i was a tory campaign manager, i would be very, very worried. there will be a lot of damage for them. there will be a lot of damage control that's going to take place in the next few months. >> i think one thing i absolutely agree with you on is that think, um, sunak is, uh, that i think, um, sunak is, uh, quite an awkward operator. i think he tends to be, although not necessarily demonstrated, they're much better off the cuff when he goes off autocue , and when he goes off autocue, and he's dealing with the press and his questioning. to be his questioning. he tends to be a i think a bit more a bit better. i think a bit more human. but what do you think human. um, but what do you think about starmer? mean, keir

about keir starmer? i mean, keir starmer, we mentioned a lot about earlier, about his u—turns earlier, didn't you think didn't we? i mean, do you think i was giving him a bit much i was giving him a bit too much of hard, time on his of a hard, a hard time on his u—turns stuff? there u—turns and stuff? there >> him that all the >> they tell him that all the time. so keir starmer, he is used doing that. i think he's used to doing that. i think he's doing keir starmer doing fine. also keir starmer is the person you can the kind of person who you can see down pub like a see going down the pub like a normal, person. not normal, normal person. he's not like can like rishi sunak, who you can only imagine on his private jet. this he's so awkward this is why he's so awkward talking to normal people on the street. he's not used to being on street . he's usually street. he's not used to being on street. he's usually in on the street. he's usually in his private car and his private jet. >> do you think? okay, i mean, i do wonder, john, whether or not we do have a bit of a problem with, frankly, just humans in politics, right. because what has happened to ordinary, relatable , normal individuals, relatable, normal individuals, it just seems as though there's a bit of a difficulty for a lot of politicians to actually. well, i the trouble is well, i think the trouble is they're of they're they're now so sort of they're so highly trained . so highly trained. >> don't do this, don't do that. make sure you do this. they get confused. i used to have a problem with politicians getting them normally because

them to walk normally because i wanted them to walk. so that i could them and then could interview them and then cut to cut away sometimes to them walking. and i found that most politicians can't walk. they sort of legs go this way, legs go that way. and you think, why don't we just have a normal i me? but why can't, why can you get this mp to walk again then? yeah. >> normal people don't want to be politicians. because who would want to be a politician in this day and age? that's why david cameron by comparison. so we tease for being we used to tease him for being out touch. yeah. but now out of touch. yeah. but now everyone around him is weird everyone around him is so weird and out touch that and out of touch that he actually normal and actually looks quite normal and people return people quite like the return of david cameron. he's normal david cameron. he's a normal bloke i what he is a >> extremely. i what he is a very suave, charming public school boy. he's just posh and knows how to behave , that's all. knows how to behave, that's all. >> things were a lot quieter under dave, though, weren't they?i under dave, though, weren't they? i mean, by the way, i'm not for one second saying we should him but, uh, should bring him back, but, uh, you didn't need to you know, i didn't need to because didn't because he did anyway. didn't he? did have he? came back. he did have a very quickly he had a very, very just quickly he had a very, um, annoyingly of um, annoyingly skilful way of deaung um, annoyingly skilful way of dealing with interviews. so um,

i like a porter cabin i was in like a porter cabin once, you know, where they bumped press they go, bumped the press in and they go, right, have three right, you'll have three questions with with the prime minister. you are three minister. each of you are three questions minister questions of prime minister and he in, he asked you first he come in, he asked you first one, which was normally basically a glorification of how the today? and the the heck are you today? and the second one, which was gearing up to one, which is to the third one, which is what you want him, you really want to ask him, right? he'd answer the right? and he'd answer the second he'd stand right? and he'd answer the secand he'd stand right? and he'd answer the secand he'd he'd stand right? and he'd answer the secand he'd just he'd stand right? and he'd answer the secand he'd just leave. 'd stand right? and he'd answer the secand he'd just leave. 'd syoui up and he'd just leave. so you couldn't go him? yeah. couldn't go after him? yeah. you couldn't go after him? yeah. you couldn't him unless couldn't go after him? yeah. you coulrdrive him unless couldn't go after him? yeah. you coulrdrive the him unless couldn't go after him? yeah. you coulrdrive the car. im unless couldn't go after him? yeah. you coulrdrive the car. and nless couldn't go after him? yeah. you coulrdrive the car. and iless he'd drive the car. and i thought that was there. that was quite clever, to be fair. quite clever, that to be fair. anyway, when we back, anyway, right when we come back, i've front pages i've got loads more front pages for three more, for you. well, three more, i think, but are think, actually, but they are good ones. i'm also good ones. um, and i'm also going be crowning today's going to be crowning today's greatest and union jack greatest britain and union jack carson someone greatest britain and union jack carso icon someone greatest britain and union jack carsoicon . someone greatest britain and union jack carso icon . yeah. someone greatest britain and union jack carsoicon . yeah. that's someone greatest britain and union jack carsoicon . yeah. that's right.neone style icon. yeah. that's right. you can see jaws. uh, there he is. well, some celebrity has paid £600,000 to look like that bond villain . oh, yes. and bond villain. oh, yes. and nicola sturgeon is in trouble again . plus, the sun and the again. plus, the sun and the telegraph will be with you very shortly. patrick christys tonight. only on .

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that bad? i don't know, really. the telegraph , um, channel the telegraph, um, channel migrants given right to work, home office grants , asylum home office grants, asylum seekers route to work in care construction and farming. that is a really fascinating story. but what else is fascinating? just the one below it. sturgeon deleted all whatsapps relating to covid, inquired me. well, the former snp leader nicola sturgeon and her deputy have deleted all of their pandemic whatsapp messages at a hearing today. the inquiry was told that sturgeon had retained no messages whatsoever from the pandemic , while swinney, pandemic, while john swinney, her deputy, used an auto delete function . let's get instant function. let's get instant reaction to that story now from the westminster leader of the alba neale hanvey. neil, alba party, neale hanvey. neil, look, you very much. a look, thank you very much. a little pressed time little bit pressed for time here, my good man. but what do you is sturgeon you make of this is sturgeon ducking diving here. ducking and diving again here. yeah . yeah. >> well there's a there's a few fundamental principles here. >> and don't forget i was an snp mp at the time. that was before

the alba party had come into being. and i think everybody was impressed with the first minister's performance and the command that she appeared to have over the pandemic. but the she is the person who called for this inquiry and she is the person who made an explicit commitment that whatsapp messages would be preserved for the inquiry to consider. so it's a bit of a shock, to be honest, that the these messages have been deleted, particularly given that she would have known at that she would have known at that time that the inquiries act would require i do not destroy nofice would require i do not destroy notice for all communications, and that those messages should have been preserved. so it's a very strange set of circus instances. um, i think that, uh , instances. um, i think that, uh, the reason why the messages were deleted is the key issue because there must have been must have been some reason that the deletion of those messages and the knowledge that she would

have had that, that, that would be, uh , an offence to delete be, uh, an offence to delete those messages . but there must those messages. but there must have been some other overriding concern that she was to prepared suffer that potential reputational and potential criminal. uh, um , uh, damage criminal. uh, um, uh, damage that she did decide to delete them anyway. so i think it's a there's a number of questions behind the reasons why that happened. behind the reasons why that happened . and i think the other happened. and i think the other thing that really surprised me was the scottish chief medical officer chose to delete his message and actually made a bit of a light hearted quip about deleting them, because certainly , in my experience, my background in the nhs is anyone who , uh, um, deletes or destroys who, uh, um, deletes or destroys medical records or amends them or defaces them would immediately face disciplinary action. that's a very serious , action. that's a very serious, uh, um, discipline matter and of

misconduct. so it seems really strange that, um, mr leitch, who had or doctor leitch would decide to destroy messages , is decide to destroy messages, is now the one point that i would make is that there are specialist software programs that can recover deleted whatsapp messages on the device , whatsapp messages on the device, uh, on which they were originally stored . and i originally stored. and i understand that that meta have said that for situations such as this , if they receive an this, if they receive an instruction , they might do it. instruction, they might do it. government agency, they would be able to save them, draw a line under it. >> then he'll just because we are bit past the time. but are a bit past the time. but thank much. a heck of thank you very much. a heck of a lot of stuff to go out there. that's neale hanvey there. who's the westminster the the westminster leader of the alba party, nicola sturgeon. she's going to be completely transparent. difficult to imagine how she can be as transparent could have transparent as she could have beenif transparent as she could have been if she had all of her messages to be fair. but she says going be says she's going to be transparent. she will to transparent. she will point to bofis transparent. she will point to boris loads other boris johnson and loads of other people deleting people also deleting their messages. into of messages. so read into all of that. yeah. that. what you will. um, yeah. so mean, what john, what

so guys, i mean, what john, what do you think? there's anything fishy sturgeon fishy about nicola sturgeon deleting ? no. deleting? no. >> weird i suppose >> what's weird i suppose i'm always worried if someone changes argument. she changes their argument. and she said it quite clear said i will make it quite clear what position is about the what my position is about the whatsapp messages . and she whatsapp messages. and she didn't say, oh, by the way, there aren't any. so i mean, the moment she says, i will make it quite clear , then it turns out, quite clear, then it turns out, oh no, i haven't got any at all. and you just look on that and you just look back on that penod and you just look back on that period where she was appearing on news conferences on these daily news conferences endlessly suggesting that, of course, she was doing well , course, she was doing well, whereas in london they were making a mess of it, and she was doing everything possible to put herself in the in the best possible light. and i'm afraid the broadcasters on this occasion completely wrong. they never had anyone criticising her. no of course. so she made her. no of course. so she made her announcement. it was dominating the news. and you just thought, well, there must come some point. absolutely. where brought to heel on where she's brought to heel on all this. >> absolutely . well we have now >> absolutely. well we have now got time just about for our greatest britain and union

jackass. there we go. and charlotte, i'll start with you. who's greatest today? >> i've gone prince edward >> i've gone with prince edward because he's last remaining because he's the last remaining member of the royal family, and he's africa and he's going to south africa and he's going to south africa and he's representing the entire royal family pretty much single handedly . the last one left. handedly. the last one left. >> good for you. all right. strong start. go on then, john. >> right. i'm suggesting rory boland . you won't have heard of boland. you won't have heard of him. he works. he works for the which magazine ? and they had which magazine? and they had a brilliant survey of what happened with tickets that you bought from a machine in railway stations. compared with online nine. and the difference is we're just enormous. and it appears that these machines, when you're at the station , they when you're at the station, they can charge double what you'd get for online. so i mean, that was a shocking story . and good old a shocking story. and good old rory boland of which got it right. all right. >> good, great sps and stella, mr allen bates, who has been fighting for post office, uh, justice. >> i think we should all look up to him. um, yeah.

>> really , really strong. i'm >> really, really strong. i'm going to go for prince edward, though, as my greatest britain okay, so there we go. um, just names only now, please, for union , jackass. union, jackass. >> go on. you might not know this name. me. stynes. this name. you me. stynes. >> go explain . quick >> oh, go on, explain. quick explanation. okay. >> brought out a book for >> she's brought out a book for eight the birds eight year olds about the birds and it's extremely and the bees, and it's extremely graphic and probably not very appropriate graphic and probably not very appropriyquick. john. >> very quick. john. >> very quick. john. >> peter suella, fujitsu manager. security team for manager. the security team for the office, says he can't the post office, says he can't remember email where he remember the email where he called a nasty chap called someone a nasty chap and out to get the company. and of course he was one of the innocent postmen . innocent postmen. >> david sorry , >> lord david cameron, sorry, not sorry. >> um, i am going to go for john's selection . there. there john's selection. there. there we go. so, look, thank you very much, everybody. i hope you have a weekend. thank you a wonderful weekend. thank you to will to my wonderful panel. i will see again on monday at 9 see you all again on monday at 9 pm. it easy. p.m. take it easy. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar . the sponsors of whether solar. the sponsors of whether on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern

here from the met office with the gb news forecast a marked change in our weather occurs this weekend after a cold week it turns much milder. it also turns much wetter and windier as storm arrives late in the storm isha arrives late in the weekend. what's going on. weekend. here's what's going on. the influence the atlantic influence is returning and it's really going to bring us some very wet and windy weather. storm isha turning up later sunday and into the start of monday. but for the time being actually for much of the uk, it's a quiet end to the week. we keep the cold air in the the east, a touch the south and the east, a touch of frost overnight clear of frost overnight under clear skies elsewhere skies, but elsewhere increasingly spells of skies, but elsewhere incremoving spells of skies, but elsewhere incremoving into spells of skies, but elsewhere incremoving into scotland, of rain moving into scotland, northern ireland, northwest england some mountain snow england still some mountain snow for snow for scotland, but that snow level low levels level is rising so low levels it's going to be rain and some icy patches about for northern scotland first thing this weekend. and but soon enough the milder air is sweeping in from the southwest and we're going to see increasingly cloudy and damp weather much of the uk weather across much of the uk throughout saturday. saturday afternoon, does ease afternoon, the rain does ease for time, stays over for a time, stays damp over western and northern but

western and northern hills, but brightest towards the south—east. still on the chilly side. 6 to 7 celsius. but you can see further west nine celsius turning milder into the start of sunday. generally frost free, bright but with some showers around then in the first signs of storm, isha, a spell of very heavy rain moving in, especially over western hills before the winds really pick up by sunday evening, the risk of 70 or 80 mile per hour wind gusts in places that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors

>> good evening i'm tatiana sanchez. your top stories from the gp newsroom. tata steel has confirmed up to 2800 jobs will be affected by its plan to close furnaces at its port talbot site . the cuts will be made over the next 18 months as the company transitions to a greener way of working. the unite union says it's ready to use, quote, everything in its armoury to protect staff and defend the industry. downing street says it remains committed to british steelmaking, but the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says he's concerned about the future of the industry . police say of the industry. police say a newborn baby was less than an hour old when she was found in a shopping bag in east london. the child, who's been named elsa, was discovered wrapped in a towel by a dog walker in newham . towel by a dog walker in newham. uninjured, said to be uninjured, she's said to be black or of mixed race.