gb news away. >> good evening. it's me, camilla tominey with tonight's farage. d0 camilla tominey with tonight's farage. do not adjust your set. i am obviously not nigel, who's a bit under the weather after his trip to iowa in —20 degrees. editions so i'm stepping in for him tonight and on tonight's show we're going to be discussing, of course, channel migrants would you believe that 16,000 people who have arrived here illegally by boat have been allowed to work, seemingly not quite the deterrent that the government planned for. we'll also, of course, be talking about storm isha floods and horrendous rain . one death of horrendous rain. one death of a man aged 84. when we're discussing whether climate change might be to blame . and as change might be to blame. and as ron desantis pulls out of the

presidential race, we'll be joined by a pollster who's going to give us his update on what trump's chances are of winning back the white house. but first, here's the news with polly middlehurst . thanks very much, middlehurst. thanks very much, camilla. well, good evening to you.the camilla. well, good evening to you. the top story from the gb newsroom tonight. new weather warnings have been issued with the new storm. josslyn heading for the uk just as the country recovers from storm isha . two recovers from storm isha. two people died and tens of thousands have been left without power after the uk was battered with high winds last night. gusts more than 100 miles an gusts of more than 100 miles an hour and heavy rain caused major travel disruption, with flooding and fallen trees. while planes were diverted and trains were cancelled . scotrail has cancelled. scotrail has announced it's again suspending services from 7:00 tomorrow as the new weather pattern approaches. there'll be no trains on wednesday, they say either lines are being checked

for damage . downing street for damage. downing street denies the government's pursuing an anti—bbc agenda after announcing a raft of reforms as part of a review into the corporation. under new plans , corporation. under new plans, ofcom could gain more powers over bbc news website. article says if it doesn't meet relevant standards, government recommendations imply ofcom should be given increased oversight over the bbc's online services, including its youtube channel. the prime minister says bbc news is not yet immune to scrutiny and british farmers are calling on mps to support tougher regulations to protect them from what they're calling unfair treatment by the so—called big six supermarkets. a dozen scarecrows were placed outside parliament today as mps debated reforms to the grocery supply chain . that's after supply chain. that's after 110,000 people signed a petition urging the government to overhaul the grocery supply chain's code of practice ,

chain's code of practice, riverford organic, the company which started the petition, said the scarecrows represented farmers they claim could go out of business in the next 12 months, blaming the buying practices of the supermarket. big six labour's accused the government of turning a blind eye to what's being called what it's calling corruption. after new data showed water bosses are pocketing millions despite overseeing illegal sewage spills into our rivers, figures show water chiefs have received more than £10 million in bonuses and nearly £15 million in incentives since the last general election in 2019. it's also received just over £621,000 in benefits , and over £621,000 in benefits, and queen camilla has toured a domestic violence refuge in swindon today to celebrate the service's 50th anniversary. her majesty met with staff, volunteers and families at swindon domestic abuse support service during her visit, queen

camilla told a well—wisher the king is fine as he prepared to undergo treatment for an enlarged prostate. this week. king charles is saying he wants to be more open about his condition to encourage other men to get themselves checked out . to get themselves checked out. that's the news on gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . thank you very news channel. thank you very much, queen polly. now let's get into the story about channel migrants being allowed to work. it was broken by my colleague charles hymas on the telegraph on you can imagine, on saturday. as you can imagine, it's a little of it's created a little bit of a stir on one hand, we've stir because on one hand, we've got the government pushing through which through this rwanda bill, which it doing to be it says it's doing to be a deterrent to people who are paying deterrent to people who are paying gangs. thousands paying criminal gangs. thousands of to come here by barely of pounds to come here by barely inflatable as you'll inflatable dinghy. now as you'll probably be aware, there's a huge backlog in asylum processing . so some people who processing. so some people who have been for here more than 12 months have been allowed to

work. now that to me, i think is counterintuitive , because if counterintuitive, because if you're saying to people, if you come here illegally by boat and you have to wait for up to 12 months for your asylum claim to be processed, actually, be processed, but actually, don't worry, because that don't worry, because after that year the year we'll bring you into the workforce isn't that workforce anyway, isn't that just acting as the opposite of a deterrent .7 isn't that saying to deterrent? isn't that saying to people you come across here because there's a chance of you working? also of defies working? it also kind of defies the logic , doesn't it, of an the logic, doesn't it, of an asylum claim, because arguably, if seeking work if you're then seeking work after month period, you after that 12 month period, you are, in effect, an economic migrant, not necessarily an asylum seeker . so that's where asylum seeker. so that's where the story now . we had a lot the story is now. we had a lot of response to it by our readers, i mean one particular readers, i mean one particular reader who said, look, i'm a 58 year old white working class quy- year old white working class guy. works in care. guy. my wife works in care. we've worked hard all of our lives . we feel that the lives. we feel that the government treating people government is treating people who illegally in a who come here illegally in a worse than treats its worse way than it treats its own. you know, it puts people up in hotels. and then it says at the of the year that you can the end of the year that you can have a job. we found this

information out, by the way, through freedom information through a freedom of information request. if the request. so it's not as if the home would have home office would have necessarily been forthcoming with in the with this information in the first a moment, first place. and in a moment, i'll what you think i'll ask you what you think about but let's just look at about it, but let's just look at what office said. what the home office said. a spokesman us a statement spokesman gave us a statement and said in 2010, the and they said in 2010, the government asylum government restricted asylum seekers so the seekers rights to work. so the individuals have had individuals who have had an asylum for asylum claim outstanding. for more can only apply more than a year can only apply for on the shortage, for jobs on the shortage, occupation list once occupation list and, once employed, may have their taxpayer support withdrawn . taxpayer support withdrawn. varne. okay, so the question is then, do you think that these asylum seekers should be able to work if they're waiting that long, wouldn't it be better to put them into the labour force, not least when we do have a shortage of certain sorts of workers? or actually, is this the of a deterrent? the opposite of a deterrent? does attract more people does it just attract more people to is it giving to come here? is it giving people who come here illegally, particularly, you risking particularly, you know, risking life and limb the channel, a life and limb on the channel, a sort of license come here if sort of license to come here if they end with job at the they end up with a job at the end it, do email me. it's end of it, do email me. it's farage. gbnews.com or tweet

farage. gb news.com or tweet hashtag farage. gbnews.com or tweet hashtag farage on gb news. let's bnng hashtag farage on gb news. let's bring our guest into the conversation to see what she thinks. madeleine sumption is the director of the migration observatory the university of observatory at the university of oxford. certainly knows oxford. she's certainly knows her when it comes to all her onions when it comes to all matters migration related. lovely , madeleine. lovely to see you, madeleine. thanks much for joining thanks so much forjoining me this can see this this evening. you can see this debate from sides, can't debate from both sides, can't you? because on one hand, i feel that this does fly the face that this does fly in the face of the government's of what the government's tried to rwanda bill. to achieve with its rwanda bill. it's trying to say to people , do it's trying to say to people, do not come here illegally . and not come here illegally. and there's a legitimate argument, isn't there, to say that, are you? or if you are a legitimate asylum seeker, to then then come asylum seeker, to then then come as an asylum seeker legally rather than illegally, and make an application to work here? >> yeah, i think what the challenge for the government basically is that there are two groups of people who apply for asylum , the people who are going asylum, the people who are going to refugee status at least to get refugee status at least under and the under the current rules, and the people won't. now, if people people who won't. now, if people are going get refugee are not going to get refugee status, the government, once they the they get refused the government's to want to

government's going to want to remove doesn't remove them. and it doesn't necessarily giving necessarily want to be giving those people rights for the those people work rights for the other group, though, for people who are going get refugee who are going to get refugee status the uk, you actually status in the uk, you actually do to them work roles do want to give them work roles because a of because there's a lot of evidence basically you evidence that basically if you keep people of the labour keep people out of the labour market long then market for a long period, then it's much for them to it's much harder for them to support themselves once they get refugee status. course, refugee status. now of course, you the solution to all of you know the solution to all of this a couple of this is not to take a couple of years to make people's claims, right. if we were making decisions to months, decisions within 3 to 6 months, none would really be a none of this would really be a problem because people wouldn't have to wait very of have to wait very long out of the labour market if they are going be given refugee status going to be given refugee status in the uk. >> what's your interpretation of the on in the home the events going on in the home office it taking office that it is taking this long process people? i mean, long to process people? i mean, i back in the day. it i read that back in the day. it took five months to took about five months to process, on average, and process, but on average, and that applications didn't that many applications didn't last months. last longer than six months. we're now situation where we're now in a situation where many, asylum seekers many, many asylum seekers are here months hotels, at here for months in hotels, at taxpayers expense, seemingly here for months in hotels, at taxpayeioutcome e, seemingly here for months in hotels, at taxpayeioutcome e, �*their ngly here for months in hotels, at taxpayeioutcome e, �*their case. with no outcome to their case. how that happened? how has that happened? >> that's absolutely right. i mean, is something that's mean, this is something that's

built over, over a long time. built up over, over a long time. and i should say that processing has really up. and has actually really sped up. and the processed many, the government processed many, many more applications last year the government processed many, manjthey'e applications last year the government processed many, manjthey'e apin cations last year the government processed many, manjthey'e apincati(previous'ear than they had in the previous years. i think effectively what happened two things. so happened was two things. so we had initially happened was two things. so we had then initially happened was two things. so we had then a initially happened was two things. so we had then a quite initially happened was two things. so we had then a quite sharp initially happened was two things. so we had then a quite sharp increase and then a quite sharp increase in the number people applying in the number of people applying for particularly from for asylum, particularly from 2022 the number of 2022 onwards. but the number of cases being processed didn't increase. and in fact, it actually fell. there was a penod actually fell. there was a period of 2018, 1920 when the numbers were going down and so the problem built up for a long time. and that problem is once you backlog, is quite you have a backlog, is quite difficult dig yourself difficult to dig yourself out because got keep on because you've got to keep on top of the new cases that are coming in, as well as trying to work through cases people work through the cases of people who've waiting. in some who've been waiting. in some cases, you know, one to sometimes even three years is also interpretation? also what's your interpretation? >> again of >> if i'm reminded again of these um , i mean, i do these figures, um, i mean, i do find it staggering to have a look at small boat look at those small boat crossing and be reminded crossing numbers and be reminded of fact that only in 2018, of the fact that only in 2018, i mean, it's not that long ago, we had 299 small boat crossings across the channel obviously, we

have that figure in our mind from 2022, which is the highest . from 2022, which is the highest. number of 45,774. why do you think we had that jump between 18 and 22? was there a brexit factor? was it to do with the factor? was it to do with the fact that there was this notion that actually those who were coming off across the channel would be given a hotel room and board in the uk? what do you think? madeleine how how has it exploded in this way ? exploded in this way? >> yeah. i mean, i think it's not clear exactly why it happened, but precisely that moment in time, part of the issue, i think, was that the government was actually quite successful in clamping down on people lorries at people crossing in lorries at the, you know, getting on lorries at freight terminals lorries at the freight terminals in northern france. and so then people started looking for another route. i think, to be honest, part of what's happened is just people realise that it was a possibility. that was a possibility. i think that the had always been seen the channel had always been seen as much more of a barrier as as much more of a barrier than it was, and once an industry up it, once industry grew up around it, once

you a few people started you know, a few people started to do it successfully, then of course, have more organised course, you have more organised groups getting, course, you have more organised groups in getting, course, you have more organised groups in on, getting, course, you have more organised groups in on, the getting, course, you have more organised groups in on, the action 1g, course, you have more organised groups in on, the action and getting in on, on the action and helping to, to facilitate it. and i think it's one of these things where genie is out of things where the genie is out of the bottle way that once, the bottle in a way that once, once realise this is once people realise this is something they could it's something they could do, it's actually incredibly actually been incredibly difficult to, difficult for the government to, to find ways of addressing it. >> the makeup of >> i mean, the makeup of migrants, these days. some have suggested what the suggested that what the government that government did with that agreement with albania and said, look, so look, you're a safe country, so you shouldn't be seeking asylum here at all, be extended here at all, should be extended to for to other countries, like, for instance, mean, would instance, india. i mean, would that bring the numbers down? are we lot of people who we seeing a lot of people who are coming from safe countries seeking asylum, to some seeking asylum, which to some people oxymoronic . people seems rather oxymoronic. >> so the government , people seems rather oxymoronic. >> so the government, as you say, has it, has a deal with albania, which is probably one of the reasons the number of albanians went down, although actually, to be honest, i suspect that other that it wasn't just because what the wasn't just because of what the government, the government did. they've government, the government did. th designate india and georgia to designate india and georgia as as safe countries. i don't think that will have a huge

impact on the numbers because actually the challenge for the government most people government is that most people coming are coming across the channel are from like like from places like like afghanistan that's been, you know, persistently one of the top countries, iraq, know, persistently one of the top cotwhere iraq, know, persistently one of the top cotwhere actually q, know, persistently one of the top cotwhere actually a lot places where actually a lot of the asylum do end up the asylum claims do end up getting accepted , accepted. so getting accepted, accepted. so these people that the these are people that the government , you know, government ultimately, you know, says do qualify for, for refugee status. and that's that . and so status. and that's that. and so and the government has accepted that to send that they don't want to send afghans afghanistan, for afghans back to afghanistan, for example, um, which makes which sort really narrows sort of really narrows the opfions sort of really narrows the options can do, options of what they can do, because if they want, if they don't want to give people status in the they have to find in the uk, they have to find another country that's that's willing take now, willing to, to take them. now, that's obviously the that's where obviously the rwanda in. there rwanda deal comes in. but there aren't countries aren't that many countries who aren't that many countries who are take refugees are willing to take refugees from the uk. many are dealing with more refugees than the uk is anyway. is receiving anyway. >> the rwanda plan is receiving anyway. >> work? the rwanda plan is receiving anyway. >> work? finallyhe rwanda plan is receiving anyway. >> work? finally wellvanda plan is receiving anyway. >> work? finally well ,|nda plan is receiving anyway. >> work? finally well, let'splan will work? finally well, let's assume that, you know, if it goes ahead and flights do start leaving rwanda . leaving to rwanda. >> i there's a huge >> i think there's a huge uncertainty about it uncertainty about whether it will create will actually create the deterrent effect the deterrent effect that the government it will. um, we government hopes it will. um, we don't really i think it

don't really know. i think it dependsin don't really know. i think it depends in large, uh, to a large extent, how many people actually end going there. but i think end up going there. but i think it's i think it's very possible. i think there's no guarantee that it will it's possible will work. i think it's possible that if the numbers are small, the deterrent effect will also be small. be quite small. >> madeleine sumption, from the migration observatory. thank you very your time. this very much for your time. this evening. um, mike pagnam has been that. been listening to that. he's chair the dependent chair of the dependent care group. mike lovely to as group. mike lovely to see you as well. this evening. now, obviously, the argument on behalf of asylum seekers who are waiting processed to work waiting to be processed to work is that sectors like yours, the care sector, needs these workers. we don't have enough home—grown people filling these jobs and therefore it only makes sense to put people who would otherwise languishing in otherwise be languishing in hotels paid for by the taxpayer, put into the system, have put them into the system, have them earning, therefore them earning, and therefore paying them earning, and therefore paying . paying tax. >> yes, i can see from your previous contributor there's a lot of conflicts in this policy, and it would be the first time when government policies contradict each other. >> what i can say is that we've got a massive shortage of care staff in this country, 152,000.

we need people from overseas now . we also want people from overseas that want work in overseas that want to work in social care, not because it's something there them, something that's there for them, because only option, because that's the only option, because that's the only option, because it's a very highly skilled job. so we need to make sure that people we bring in really want to be there. and are caring. that by caring. and i think that by 2035, just to give you an idea, we need nearly 400,000 extra care staff. so we've a long way to go. the problem is the government is not addressed. the social care challenge, which is why this position with why we're in this position with overseas at minute. overseas workers at the minute. >> they've certainly >> well, they've certainly dragged haven't dragged their feet, haven't they? many times dragged their feet, haven't they?we many times dragged their feet, haven't they?we been many times dragged their feet, haven't they?we been promised/ times dragged their feet, haven't they?we been promised a:imes dragged their feet, haven't they?we been promised a social have we been promised a social care sort of policy platform? and it's ever been and it's not ever been delivered. it comes to delivered. and when it comes to care workers, many times to too many like , yes , and i was many times, like, yes, and i was going to ask you, i don't know whether you've got these figures to hand, but what proportion of our care sector workers from our care sector workers are from overseas, if it's overseas, even if it's approximate ? approximate? >> well, i think the last count was around about 70,000 of those came over into social care. so

it's helped a bit. but we've still a long way to go. and as you know, the government is looking at making more looking at making it more difficult able to difficult not being able to bnng difficult not being able to bring dependents across. and that's factor how that's a big factor as to is how can people to travel can expect people to travel halfway around the world and can expect people to travel halfw.their»und the world and can expect people to travel halfw.their loved1e world and can expect people to travel halfw.their loved ones rld and can expect people to travel halfw.their loved ones behind leave their loved ones behind them. industry , so them. it's a caring industry, so that's put a block on it. but the government no answer. if that's put a block on it. but thecan'trnment no answer. if that's put a block on it. but the can't getent no answer. if that's put a block on it. but the can't get staff no answer. if that's put a block on it. but the can't get staff in no answer. if that's put a block on it. but the can't get staff in this nswer. if we can't get staff in this country to work in social care and we can't have staff from overseas, what do we do? because and we can't have staff from overseas, vthe do we do? because and we can't have staff from overseas, vthe social do? because and we can't have staff from overseas, vthe social care because and we can't have staff from overseas, vthe social care andause remember, the social care and the nhs work together. so the waiting list go up. >> but can't people >> but why can't we get people in to work in in this country to work in social ? why do you think social care? why do you think that who are leaving school that kids who are leaving school may be leaving university? not least work least because health care work now has become professionalised? people greater people have got ever greater needs. new medicines to needs. there's new medicines to help we know we've help people, and we know we've got population. so as got an ageing population. so as you that 400,000, i mean, you say, that 400,000, i mean, that conservative that might be a conservative estimate because people over 65 are now, you know , outweighing are now, you know, outweighing people are under so why people who are under 20. so why can't we get kind of home grown talent to into this industry ? talent to go into this industry? >> it's very frustrating. i

think we'll take up your whole programme to go into everything. but briefly , it's but basically briefly, it's a generational sadly in generational issue. sadly in this country, social care, it's that word social has a negative impact and i believe it starts at school. really is encouraging people to social care is a great opfion people to social care is a great option to go into a career option to go into as a career structure. the challenge, of course, is it's not the most highly paid job. what we're calling parity pay calling for is parity on nhs pay into because at the into social care, because at the minute, in social minute, many people in social care only just above the national living wage, and as some homes threatened with some care homes threatened with closure because they simply can't mick. yes. can't get the staff, mick. yes. yeah. that's definite. we've lost more beds in this country in the last year than ever before, but we need more in the future. yes, people want to be cared for at home. yes, people want live in extra care want to live in extra care housing, but there's still a need care homes, need for care homes, particularly homes. so particularly nursing homes. so do vital but as you do play a vital part. but as you probably produced probably know, figures produced just the end last year, just just the end of last year, there were 13,000 people in the nhs be discharged nhs waiting to be discharged into couldn't into social care and couldn't move there was no social move because there was no social care package. so it's a very difficult challenge. this government might

government and others, i might just labour just say it's labour as well, have tackled the social have never tackled the social care challenge. >> if you wave a >> mike, if you could wave a magic wand, what's the first policy that you would introduce? just imagine that you could become minister become prime minister particularly what particularly in this issue. what would really move the dial here? >> i think making social care, bringing it into one body. the department for social care and health run a one budget run by one organisation, and i think that will make a big difference. i think it would have come in bevin in 48, when the nhs was there, but people didn't live long enough to need social care. i do think the prime minister, this one and the next one, whoever it is, needs to be bold and tackle because think in and tackle it because i think in the it will give people the long run it will give people quality of life save the quality of life and save the taxpayer money. >> think few would >> yeah, i think few would disagree mike, thank >> yeah, i think few would disavery mike, thank >> yeah, i think few would disavery much mike, thank >> yeah, i think few would disavery much indeed> yeah, i think few would disavery much indeed forthank >> yeah, i think few would disavery much indeed forjoining you very much indeed for joining me. evening. well, later on me. this evening. well, later on the we're going to be the show, we're going to be talking isha. is it talking about storm isha. is it as a result of climate change or is just what we have to is it just what we have to accept from our weather, not least great britain? i note least in great britain? i note the scotland been

the scotland has been particularly the scotland has been partisn'trly just question but isn't that just a question of rather than

to gb news radio. >> welcome back to farage with me camilla tominey standing in for nige, who is under the weather, which is a subject we're going to discuss in just a moment. >> but before the break, i asked you about asylum seekers and should they be allowed to work while wait, let's get a few while they wait, let's get a few responses donald says, responses in. donald says, i don't if this is the don't know if this is the donald, because could be donald, because he could be watching, surely this watching, but surely this announcement encourages yet announcement only encourages yet more to more illegal immigrants to come to the same to the uk, whilst at the same time trumpet the rwanda time we trumpet the rwanda project a deterrent. madness project as a deterrent. madness says this is says donald. ian says this is just example of the just another example of the government's subterfuge and deception . livid. millie deception. i'm livid. millie says it's absolutely wrong . the says it's absolutely wrong. the whole world will choose to come to this. come this way. do not allow them in in the first place. another person says, it's obvious that the government has no intention the no intention of putting the immigration bill into law. this is what they intended all along

at the election . it'll be at the election. it'll be goodbye, rishi. thanks for nothing. a damning invite indictment of the prime minister. there well, let's talk about storm. is it isha or isha? isha isha, thank you very much. >> storm. isha >> storm. isha >> because everybody looks like an eye, doesn't it? yes it does an eye, doesn't it? yes it does a little bit storm isha as in the place down in surrey has been wreaking havoc across the uk. >> least three people have >> at least three people have died. are still died. thousands are still without amber weather without power and amber weather weather warning has been issued for and western for northern and western scotland from 6 pm. tomorrow until 8 am. on wednesday, a rare danger to life red weather warning was in force for northern scotland from 1 am. until 5 am. this morning, and it's not over yet because storm jocelyn, the second storm in 24 hours, is due to hit the uk with strong winds and heavy rain from tomorrow. well joining me in the studio is an expert on all things meteorological. jim dale, who's senior meteorologist at the british weather services, jim , we often call on you to jim, we often call on you to sort of talk us through what's been going on with british

been going on with the british weather. yeah >> um, good evening first of all. and it's be in all. and it's great to be in this snazzy studio, new and sparkling studio . sparkling studio. >> i'm sorry. it's not nigel who i know don't worry. i know you don't worry. >> yeah, we've had >> yeah, we've we've had conversations . i >> yeah, we've we've had conversations. i know >> yeah, we've we've had conversations . i know you have. conversations. i know you have. i'm glad you put the under the weather because that's absolutely where he is. >> well, okay. well let's get on to that in just minute. to that in just a minute. because on one hand, i think you're going to say i don't want to you, that may you're going to say i don't want to climate you, that may you're going to say i don't want to climate factors, hat may you're going to say i don't want to climate factors, climate may be climate factors, climate change involved in these change factors involved in these storms. and i think people watching and listening to gb news thinking, well, news will be thinking, well, hang minute. know, hang on a minute. you know, we'll of we'll think back to the storm of 1987. yeah, with older people can think of very, bad can think of very, very bad weather even before then. we're living mean, living in britain. i mean, particularly if up in particularly if we're up in scotland in the outer scotland and in the outer hebrides. know, the weather hebrides. you know, the weather is that's is very changeable and that's just of british life. just a fact of british life. >> that's normal. yes. and >> and that's normal. yes. and we're in winter. so i would agree we do get storms and agree that we do get storms and we get heat waves, and we do we do get heat waves, and we do get spells. the thing is, get cold spells. the thing is, you look at a single you can't look at a single storm. um, either. either one of the two storms and say, oh,

that's climate change. that's definitely it. what you're going to is it's a collective to do is it's a collective you've got to look like like i say, like a meteorologist. nobody's nobody out there is necessarily going be necessarily going to be a meteorologist. what i do meteorologist. but what i do on a daily basis look a daily basis is i look globally, look at what we've globally, i look at what we've got in terms of the track of weather that we've had in the uk. so you go back a couple uk. so if you go back a couple of years and we go back to the heat wave of, of july, august, um 2022, 40.3 degrees, there's a dot in the landscape and before then there was other incidents going on. now that was a huge dot because that was extreme temperatures. and then we you know, since then last, last summer we although we didn't get that kind of record, we saw months records various months with records various months with records various months and months may in june and september, october all time records. so another dot another dot. and then you're looking again globally. what's going on globally. going in globally. what's going on in china, usa, in africa, now in china, in usa, in africa, now in australia for example, records falling like nine pins. so when these storms come along, you've

got to say, okay, would they have happened anyway ? the answer have happened anyway? the answer is probably yes. they probably would when you would have done. but when you start where we're up to start getting where we're up to with jocelyn is number 10, then that's not the record. the record is 11 named storms. uh, 20 1516. so we've been there before, but only a few years ago. so these things are starting to mount up and you know what? on the on the, on the can of climate change, climatologists , better people climatologists, better people than me. people who study this expertly . and they look at it expertly. and they look at it and they say , okay, what are we and they say, okay, what are we going to get with extra dimension of heat in the atmosphere? which energy and heat? that basically means that you've got more intense storms, potentially, that can carry more water. what do you get? you get you get higher wind velocities and you get more water and or snow . we've just gone through snow. we've just gone through a penod snow. we've just gone through a period where parts of this country have been deluged and flooded for the first time. yes. uh, huge . uh, huge. >> i mean, some places have been flooded , not for the first time.

flooded, not for the first time. and you could say that there are other environmental factors, not least the behaviour of the environment agency. and you speak to a lot of people who say that of wilding that this kind of wilding project been going on in project that's been going on in recent years and refusal to recent years and this refusal to dredge rivers, and we know of cases, don't we, of individuals who the rivers who have dredged the rivers themselves criminalised themselves and been criminalised for actually, you know, for it. and actually, you know, if the environment agency is intent on leaving things as they are saying to people who are and saying to people who live locally, well, i'm so sorry, but you're going to be flooded, then that is going to happen. i mean , you talk. i happen. i mean, you talk. i think sometimes there's a tendency for people to in tendency for people to talk. in much terms. you much more recent terms. if you look back over the sort of sands and aeons of time historically this planet warmed up and this planet has warmed up and cooled down. that's by huge degree. but the difference is, is we're going from the is that we're going from the industrial revolution, say , 150 industrial revolution, say, 150 years now , that in terms years ago to now, that in terms of the time span of the earth is extremely small. but do i have a point on flooding in the environment point on flooding in the environryeah . >> um, yeah. >> um, yeah. >> management, course, hasn't >> management, of course, hasn't been great, has it? yeah.

>> absolutely correct. i don't think the environment agency necessarily worked. mean, necessarily has worked. i mean, to honest, one the major to be honest, one of the major things that i'm not saying it's necessarily business, but the necessarily my business, but the sewage rivers is just covid a sewage in rivers is just covid a new story. exactly on that. um, one of the reasons why people have a problem with that is they use these things fishermen, swimmers , surfers, all these swimmers, surfers, all of these people , even dog walkers, you people, even dog walkers, you know, you don't want to see a horrible, smelly rivers and streams and seas and so that is a huge part of it. and if the payoff is that some chief executive tvs get huge amounts of money for allowing that to happen, now remember, there's been two votes on that in the house of commons, and twice it got through in terms of allowing it happen so that when it it to happen so that when it comes to the general election, will one of the things that will be one of the things that environmentalists, people who are about are concerned about the environment, be lack environment, whether it be lack of whether it be of dredging, whether it be sewage whatever sewage in waters, whatever happens to that a happens to be that will be a high come the high profile event come the general terms of an general election. in terms of an issue that will will sway votes also in the terms of the kind of

recording data , if the recording of data, if the people, experts who are kind people, the experts who are kind of looking at all of this data are seeing it through a sort of, i don't know, a prism of wanting to relate everything back to climate change, then they will. >> i mean, that wouldn't have been the way that people looked at back in 1950. >> yeah , it goes both ways >> yeah, it goes both ways because there are people , um, because there are people, um, who looking this who will be looking at this program , people who come up program, people who have come up against have against sometimes and have debates in one debates against and in one political party, particularly , political party, particularly, who, let's just say cherry pick and they'll pick things and say, well, that's not happening because of this or that. and okay, maybe exactly the same way. >> maybe i'm cherry picking. but we had a look back at some of the big weather of the the big weather events of the past, and you can point to, for instance, 2000 people dying when past, and you can point to, for instsevern 000 people dying when past, and you can point to, for instsevern estuary»ple dying when past, and you can point to, for instsevern estuary floodedig when past, and you can point to, for instsevern estuary flooded innhen the severn estuary flooded in 1606. can point back to, um, 1606. you can point back to, um, 8000 people being killed by the channel storm of 1703. you can look at wind, for instance, and you can make the calculation that the highest wind in the upper atmosphere , which was 408

upper atmosphere, which was 408 miles an hour, was record wind in the outer hebrides in 1967, the biggest tornado in the uk happenedin the biggest tornado in the uk happened in 1606. >> your own work. you're very good. you need to join me. >> i know, but at the same time you can point to all these and say, well, we had these extraordinary weather events back in 1666. >> do. >> we do. >> we do. >> and it doesn't it doesn't knock the you can get knock the fact you can get extraordinary weather events and they do happen. that's planet earth and i said to earth, however, and as i said to you, few minutes it's you, a few minutes ago, it's about many you get and how about how many you get and how often you get them in the severity of them and the way the charts moving terms charts are now moving in terms of let's just just talk of let's just let's just talk about why that is the case and we it's fossil fuels being we know it's fossil fuels being released into the atmosphere. we we know it's fossil fuels being rele alld into the atmosphere. we we know it's fossil fuels being rele alld irbacke atmosphere. we we know it's fossil fuels being rele alld ir back to tmosphere. we we know it's fossil fuels being rele alld irback to our sphere. we we know it's fossil fuels being rele alld ir back to our school, we can all go back to our school, our our junior school and our in our junior school and talk the greenhouse effect talk about the greenhouse effect and that is. the ceiling and what that is. the ceiling on the doesn't the atmosphere that doesn't allow escape, in which allow heat to escape, in which case that, you know, we're into the to the to the to the greenhouse. and that's essentially that's about. essentially what that's about. so really is joining the dots so it really is joining the dots and ensuring that that we see that for what it is. and it is

the amount of incidents and the time span that's involved, which is tiny . that is the. yes, is tiny. that is the. yes, that's exactly what it is. >> jim dale, thank you very much indeed for joining >> jim dale, thank you very much indeed forjoining me. i've got a feeling this storm, jocelyn coming, you're going to have a very busy week. >> i think i'm going to have a very year next year as very busy year next year as well. this coming. well. this year coming. >> see. well, we'll be >> we'll see. well, we'll be welcoming into welcoming you back into the studio discuss storms, studio to discuss future storms, no doubt. ron desantis no doubt. now, ron desantis dropping of the us dropping out of the us presidential and what

and that's because we have a sluggish economy . earlier on, gb sluggish economy. earlier on, gb news radio . news radio. >> welcome back to farage with me, camilla tominey. florida governor ron desantis will no longer be challenging donald trump in the race to be the republican presidential candidate in the 2024 election and ask our supporters to volunteer their time and donate their resources . their resources. >> if we don't have a clear path to victory. accordingly, i am today suspending my campaign .

today suspending my campaign. >> president trump welcomed the news, saying he was honoured by ron desantis s endorsement and was later caught on camera saying he would officially retire the nickname ron desantis. monanus >> i just said, will i be using the name ron desanctimonious? i said, that name is officially retired . retired. >> to be fair, ron desanctimonious was a really good nickname. joined us. now scott rasmussen leading pollster, president of rmg research and editor at large at ballotpedia, joins me . lovely to ballotpedia, joins me. lovely to see you. now, what does this mean for donald trump? tell us what's the polling looking like ? what's the polling looking like? >> well, look , ron desantis, >> well, look, ron desantis, first of all, dropped out for a very simple reason. he reed's numbers . well, he's data driven numbers. well, he's data driven and he was absolutely right when he said there was no path forward for his campaign. and the truth is, right now, there is no path forward for anybody not named donald trump. uh you

know, in iowa, there was this thought perhaps, that there will be a group of people who, like the former presidents policies but didn't like his tweeting and his, uh, other antics, but that didn't emerge . uh, nikki haley didn't emerge. uh, nikki haley is still in the race. she has big plans to pull off a surprise, uh, in new hampshire and the primaries there . uh, and the primaries there. uh, it's not i think she's going to lose. but even if she wins in new hampshire , the quirky nature new hampshire, the quirky nature of that primary , uh, doesn't of that primary, uh, doesn't really get her back in the game. i mean, it is very interesting to see that the more controversy he's courted, the more donald trump seems to have endeared himself to his fan base. >> obviously, though, he does have to pull people across from the democrats . he has to pull the democrats. he has to pull people across who are dissatisfied, tied with president biden . maybe they're president biden. maybe they're not and out. lefties they not out and out. lefties they may be somewhere in the middle. they with biden for a sense they went with biden for a sense of they're fed of security and now they're fed up way that he's run. up with the way that he's run. the white house does that depend

on the running mate for donald trump? does he have them trump? does he have to give them some meat in some way, in some red meat in some way, in some red meat in some way, in some announcements ? how some policy announcements? how does win over those people does he win over those people who middle and are who are in the middle and are genuinely going decide, genuinely going to decide, perhaps to vote for him come 2024 rather than dyed in the wool democrats ? wool democrats? >> well, let's back up . in 2016, >> well, let's back up. in 2016, it was the first time in the history of polling that we had two presidential candidates who were disliked by most americans. we thought that was very unusual . donald trump was elected president primarily because people were voting against hillary clinton . um, people were voting against hillary clinton. um, in people were voting against hillary clinton . um, in 2020. at hillary clinton. um, in 2020. at this time, i would have been saying donald trump was likely to get re—elected. that's because i didn't know there was a pandemic coming that would throw 40 million americans out of work . uh, so we're talking of work. uh, so we're talking about a situation where just a handful of votes can change. what's different now ? four years what's different now? four years ago, joe biden was the non—incumbent people were

unhappy with the pandemic and some other things, and he barely won. uh, right now, the odds are somewhat in the favour of donald trump, primarily because joe biden is more unpopular than he is . is. >> yes, but if you look at the numbers from when trump first ran and at this stage in the game, what was his support base like then compared to what it's like then compared to what it's like now? scott well , at this like now? scott well, at this stage in the game eight years ago, we were all saying, donald trump is not going to be the nominee . nominee. >> um, it really wasn't until he began to win those early primaries that it became clear he was going to be the nominee. so we don't have a clear gauge compared to where he was four years ago. so, uh , he's a little years ago. so, uh, he's a little further behind than a lot of that has to do with the way he handled the loss in 2020. but still, the economy , what happens still, the economy, what happens between now and next november is going to be decisive in terms of

what happens in that election . i what happens in that election. i think the dynamic and you you hinted at it when you said, uh, you know, his fans seem to like it when he courts this controversy. um, uh, i think that's because a lot of the people that support, uh, president trump feel that the government is against them, too. the more they attack him, the more they feel like, yes, we know how he feels. uh, we just did a survey of the elite 1% in america . uh, we did it with the america. uh, we did it with the committee to unleash prosperity and we found these people who are in policy positions, very influential , have a postgraduate influential, have a postgraduate degree. look down their nose at many other americans . and the many other americans. and the big shocking finding was that among most voters in america, they say we don't have enough individual freedom . and among individual freedom. and among this elite group, individual freedom. and among this elite group , they say the this elite group, they say the people have too much freedom when they say that and when they challenge donald trump voters are like, hey, wait a minute,

something's wrong here. >> yeah, but then i'm surprised that there aren't more voters who have said, look, i did vote for trump last time round, but the january 6th capitol riots was a red line for me. i can't vote for him again. i mean, is there any evidence of that or if people got short memories? scott >> um, yes. >> um, yes. >> well, they they do have short memories. um, uh, which you memories. um, and uh, which you know, unfortunately, as we age , know, unfortunately, as we age, mine gets shorter too. but but when people are talking about this in the political context, there were several who said no after 6th, we can't . after january 6th, we can't. there's about 15% of voters who like donald trump's policies, but really wish somebody else was carrying them . having said was carrying them. having said that , people believe joe was carrying them. having said that, people believe joe biden is corrupt as well. there is not this sense that it's a it's not that politics was pure and noble. and then along came donald trump. voters believe that politics has been corrupt for a very long time in our country . uh, most of them country. uh, most of them believe joe biden is less than

truthful . so now you've got truthful. so now you've got a choice between two people that neither one of them. look, if you ask voters, do you want the choice to be donald trump versus joe biden? most voters would say, no, i want another option . say, no, i want another option. but that's not where our bees . but that's not where our bees. >> there are no plan b's. scott very , very briefly, what is your very, very briefly, what is your prediction for the election for in in the primary in new hampshire, i believe donald trump is going to win and go on and roll to the nomination for the general election. >> if you tell me what the economy is like next november, i will you who wins crystal will tell you who wins crystal balls needed. >> very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. scott , for that scott rasmussen, for that insider insight. thank you. farmers took to westminster today to protest for fairer buying practices when it comes to selling produce to supermarkets, they use scare crows to indicate that nearly half of fruit and veg farmers could be out of business within a year, our reporter , christina a year, our reporter, christina curtis, was at the protest outside of parliament. >> i'd love to see british farms

with british farmers on the shelves so that farmers can demonstrate that they're producing the food the way the british public want it produced, and be paid properly for that food . food. >> these 49 scarecrows have been placed outside the houses of parliament today to represent the 49% of farmers who say they could lose their jobs and their livelihoods due to strict regulations . livelihoods due to strict regulations. in the livelihoods due to strict regulations . in the next year, regulations. in the next year, there calling on politicians to help them out. the protest was organised by riverford organic farmers, who are calling for fairer regulations when it comes to selling produce to supermarkets . supermarkets. >> we need to have a food and farming policy for this country. we need to see farmers, you know, treated fair early. >> and, you know, let's be honest with supermarket bits, they exist to make a profit for their shareholders. and they their shareholders. and if they can profit by paying can make that profit by paying farmers , they will. and farmers less, they will. and they have the power be able they have the power to be able to this. and need our to do this. and we need our politicians to stand up and take responsibility for, you know, protecting farmers. the amount

of food that's produced in this country and eaten in this country and eaten in this country has fallen from 80% to the low 60. and that is absolutely a result of supermarkets not paying the true cost of production of that food. so we will see more farmers going out of business. >> as mps debated this topic earlier today by empowering farmers with the tools they need to negotiate fairly , we can to negotiate fairly, we can foster a more balanced and sustainable agricultural sector. >> let us stand together in solidarity with our farmers and work towards a future where they are invaluable . contributions are invaluable. contributions are invaluable. contributions are acknowledged and respected unfairly compensated . unfairly compensated. >> a british retail consortium spokesperson said farmers play an incredibly important part in the food supply chain and retailers will continue to source the vast majority of their food from british farmers . their food from british farmers. the strong relationships between

farmers and food retailers is supported by the groceries supply code of practice, which ensures a fair partnership between the two parties. however for more than 110,000 people have now signed the hashtag get fair about farming petition, which is pressing the government to overhaul the gscp to make it fairer for those involved , and fairer for those involved, and seeing the amount of scarecrows used to highlight the farmers that could be lost to the industry in the next year , it's industry in the next year, it's clear that many need help and support to keep sustaining their produce and ensure that shelves remain stocked with locally farmed food. christina curtis for . gb news farmed food. christina curtis for. gb news just thinking it might be an idea to send some of those scarecrows into the house of commons, perhaps they'd be able to get rwanda bills through. >> indeed, in the house of lords , better our unelected , better than our unelected peers. i digress. i peers. but anyway, i digress. i thought i'd have word, thought i'd just have a word, actually, duchess of actually, about the duchess of york. um, fergie, as we

affectionately know her, as you probably read, has been probably have read, has been diagnosed skin cancer diagnosed now with skin cancer after under going breast cancer surgery back in the summer, she discovered a couple of moles. she got her dermatologist involved. dermatologist involved. the dermatologist said, to send these off said, we need to send these off and has been diagnosed with and she has been diagnosed with skin and put quite skin cancer and has put quite a moving message on her instagram page today, sure you'll page today, and i'm sure you'll all familiar with the fact all be familiar with the fact that in the past, i have covered royal affairs in various different most different guises, but most notably for the telegraph. i just thought i'd say, you know, dear old fergie, she gets a bad press sometimes and a bad rap, but i've interviewed her on a number occasions. met number of occasions. i've met her number of occasions. at her on a number of occasions. at the end of the day, she is quite eccentric, as you would expect. the end of the day, she is quite e(memberas you would expect. the end of the day, she is quite e(member of you would expect. the end of the day, she is quite e(member of the would expect. the end of the day, she is quite e(member of the royal expect. the end of the day, she is quite e(member of the royal family. the end of the day, she is quite e(member of the royal family or a member of the royal family or a former member of the royal family perhaps to be. but she has heart of gold and i do has got a heart of gold and i do feel i think it's feel for her. i think it's really difficult, not when really difficult, not least when we've had these health scares now from king, who is going now from the king, who is going to, think, undergo to, we think, undergo a procedure on his enlarged prostate some prostate this week at some point. we've also heard the point. we've also heard from the princess having this

princess of wales having this unexpected surgery. unexpected stomach surgery. again, forthcoming again, details to be forthcoming . and now the duchess of york, who, face it, hasn't had who, let's face it, hasn't had the easiest times she's been the easiest of times she's been there support duke of there in support of the duke of york, like him or loathe york, who, like him or loathe him, has been in the headlines for the wrong for all of the wrong reasons because relationship with because of his relationship with jeffrey epstein. she's been there way. what was there all the way. what was interesting, i think, when i ever did any studies into the duchess the duchess of york is how fond the late queen was of her. the duke of edinburgh, admittedly not so much, forgave for much, never forgave her for the whole sucking escapades whole toe sucking escapades of the queen was the 90s. but the queen was always fond of her, always said that she was a great mother to princess beatrice and eugenie. so thought was worth so i just thought it was worth saying. know, sometimes you saying. you know, sometimes you write about people and they're just stories, just the subjects of stories, but as fallible but the royals are as fallible as the rest of us. they do get ill. and of course, to have two cancer diagnoses in a year is pretty tough. so we send her our very wishes, we're very best wishes, and we're going to be sticking with medical matters after the break, because going be because we're going to be talking measles talking about the measles outbreak done. outbreak and what can be done. so stick with us and

soon welcome back to farage with me. camilla tominey a bit of breaking news for you. having discussed the ocean of scarecrows doing a betterjob in the house of lords than peers themselves, we discover that peers inflicted peers have inflicted the first defeat sunak defeat against rishi sunak controversy deportation controversy rwanda deportation plan in backing by 214 votes to 171. so that's a majority of 43, an unprecedented move seeking to delay a treaty with the east african nation that paves the way for the asylum scheme. so basically, what's happened is these players want to have a debate over the motion laid before the house by labour attorney general peter goldsmith, which basically seeks to delay the ratification of the new treaty. so they want to stall . they want to delay. don't stall. they want to delay. don't forget the peers can set their own timetable. so the house of commons mps, they have to rush legislation through in accordance with a deadline. the lords don't to do that at lords don't need to do that at all so they debate, they can

all so they can debate, they can prevaricate, they can delay. and there's nothing that there's nothing really that the government it. so government can do about it. so again , peers are unelected . you again, peers are unelected. you know, you elect a government to come up with a piece of legislation. it's supported in the it gets and the house. it gets through and then into the upper then it gets into the upper chamber and it could potentially be thwarted . apparently is be thwarted. apparently this is democracy. no doubt be democracy. we'll no doubt be inviting views that inviting gb views about that dunng inviting gb views about that during let's during the week. now let's discuss measles, because millions of parents in england are being urged to book their children in for missed measles, mumps and rubella. that's the mmr jabs amid a very real risk of measles outbreaks across the country , officials have said the country, officials have said the decline in the uptake of routine childhood vaccination is a, quote, serious concern. well it certainly sounds like it. it's a serious concern and i speak as a mother as well as a journalist in saying that professor alastair sutcliffe, of alastair sutcliffe, professor of general great general paediatrics at ucl great ormond street institute of child health, joins me now. what's happened here, professor? because i initially saw this story and i thought, is this the andrew norfolk effect? you know, people being put off giving

their children mmr jabs, but actually it seems to me that those children will be grown up by now. and this is affecting young therefore are young people. therefore are there some that are just not taking up vaccinations at taking up these vaccinations at birth? regardless of any concerns may been concerns that may have been raised the about the jabs? >> yes, i think that's possible. what's planned here is, sadly, 2016. britain declared itself measles free and it's crept back with the fall in the in the rates of vaccination. so uh, optimal would be 95% or above. and we're only at sort of 84. so and then there's outbreaks of a major regional one in the birmingham area with 50 children last month seen by colleagues in birmingham children's hospital. >> is there any sort of demographic evidence that that's a cultural thing or , i mean, why a cultural thing or, i mean, why rottingham why central london? >> i'd be reticent to say that it's in a city where things spread much quicker. >> ah, okay. it makes sense. but then i can't quite understand it from a parental perspective because i remember with all my

three, had your little red three, you had your little red book, you had to go and see your health visitor, them health visitor, get them weighed, that weighed, make sure that breastfeeding or bottle feeding is and then the is going all right, and then the vaccinations, i mean, i, i suppose there was a choice, but there wasn't really i mean, understandably, and rightly in my as a daughter of a my view, as a daughter of a doctor, as a public health matter, children matter, you got your children vaccinated. why are people now thinking a of choice? thinking it's a sort of choice? >> i think just it's >> i think it's just that it's the society we live in. there's been some pushback . there's been some pushback. there's anti—vaccine the time going anti—vaccine all the time going along. ever since vaccines were invented . invented. >> what do you think? there's a covid effect, then, that people have got less faith in vaccines per se, possibly personal child health record, as you've referred red book is referred to it, the red book is still exists. >> and you're supposed to >> yes. and you're supposed to get and get get your stamps, you go and get your um crazy not to, your vaccines. um crazy not to, frankly, but on the other hand, that's the situation. so we're having catch up. having to have a big catch up. there's least a million there's at least a million individuals who've not been vaccinated . wow. vaccinated. wow. >> let's talk about the >> prof. let's talk about the seriousness what when seriousness of what happens when you measles when you can go you get measles when you can go deaf. it is a terrible thing to

suffer just talk us suffer from. just talk us through it so we can urge people if anyone's watching or listening they haven't listening to this, they haven't been vaccinated or haven't got their vaccinated, their children vaccinated, for goodness the goodness sake, go to the hospital well, 30% hospital because, well, 30% complication you can get complication rate, you can get pneumonia can ear pneumonia, you can get ear infections from it. >> if you if you if you're less lucky, you can get the dreaded encephalitis. yes, you can have seizures. you can die from measles . and even if you don't measles. and even if you don't get those things, you're at risk of a complication , which i've of a complication, which i've practised especially for the show . subacute sclerosing show. subacute sclerosing panencephalitis . and i'm just panencephalitis. and i'm just just joking. don't test me on that. don't make me stop. and that. don't make me stop. and that happens about seven years after you've had it. it's after you've had it. and it's basically a terrible death. okay, so it's not. yeah. okay, so, so it's not. yeah. it's no sherlock. should get it's no sherlock. you should get vaccinated . oh, sorry. vaccinated. oh, sorry. >> i'll have to apologise for your language there, bro. no, but clearly but fair enough. you clearly feel it. and the feel strongly about it. and the mmr, you know, it's a safe jab. so people. >> absolutely, absolutely. it's not no vaccine on not 100% safe, but no vaccine on the but that the planet is. but it's that exchange. reality is exchange. and the reality is

it's highly protective. 99% are above. if you go through the program. >> thank you very much indeed for joining us, professor. thank forjoining us, professor. thank you. jacob rees—mogg , father of you. jacob rees—mogg, father of six. they're six. i bet they're all vaccinated, aren't they? they are yes. good man. yes, of course >> yes. good man. yes, of course they are. >> of they are. what am >> of course they are. what am i even asking? >> course they and >> of course they are. and i think it is very important. but i also think it's important that politicians say that their children very children are vaccinated. very good. it's no good good. because it's no good politicians telling people good. because it's no good po do :ians telling people good. because it's no good po do thingselling people good. because it's no good po do things ifing people good. because it's no good po do things if they people good. because it's no good po do things if they haven't ple to do things if they haven't done and they've had done themselves and they've had the jab all of them. the mmr jab all of them. >> tonight? >> what's on your show tonight? >> what's on your show tonight? >> on my show? my program >> what's on my show? my program again, terrible with my again, terrible trouble with my mother. call it a she mother. if i call it a show. she thinks that sounds. anyway, mother. if i call it a show. she thinks ont sounds. anyway, mother. if i call it a show. she thinks ont sou program? ay, mother. if i call it a show. she thinks ont sou program? my what's on your program? my program? first of all, i'm going to be talking tata steel. to be talking about tata steel. and why our crazy green regulations are closing down our industry, our energy, our electricity is 75% more expensive in united expensive than in the united states. going to be states. and then going to be talking to three people whose family are hostages in gaza . family are hostages in gaza. yeah. and we mustn't forget about them. it's moved out of the news. but they're going to be coming in and i'm going to talk to them about what's

happening and hoping that qatar may be able to help. that may be able to help. yes that sounds very interesting and compelling thank compelling stuff, jacob, thank you very much. >> for that. let's >> stay tuned for that. let's put our fingers together and hope is better very, hope that nigel is better very, very stay to nation very soon. stay to the nation next. but first, here's the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> evening storm. jocelyn will be arriving at this time tomorrow. on tuesday evening. not as intense as storm isha, but nevertheless could cause some further disruption brewing out in the atlantic at the moment there is the next storm system . storm isha continues to system. storm isha continues to clear away. still plenty of isobars on the chart. it is still pretty gusty out there. this evening. plenty of showers to packing in across scotland in particular, but the showers will tend to ease off in most places, generally becoming clear overnight will overnight and the winds will ease further until the ease down further until the cloud thickens and we start to see wet weather coming into northern by dawn, with northern ireland by dawn, with

the clearer skies. and as the winds ease, we could some winds ease, we could see some pockets across pockets of frost across scotland. most of us, scotland. but for most of us, we'll start tuesday at 4 or 5 degrees. many in the east will start dry and but the start dry and bright, but the rain into the west rain will spread into the west and become pretty much and then become pretty much across all parts lunchtime across all parts by lunchtime time. the heaviest rain, though, over hills the rain time. the heaviest rain, though, over cause hills the rain time. the heaviest rain, though, over cause some the rain time. the heaviest rain, though, over cause some disruption could cause some disruption because storm isha , where because after storm isha, where we had quite a bit of rain falling, rainfall may falling, extra rainfall may cause some flooding issues and then the winds continue to strengthen. actually quite a mild , but not mild day tomorrow, but not feeling all that mild the feeling all that mild with the wind and rain and the winds wind and the rain and the winds continue during continue to strengthen during tuesday particularly continue to strengthen during tuesdathe particularly continue to strengthen during tuesdathe north. particularly continue to strengthen during tuesdathe north. theicularly continue to strengthen during tuesdathe north. the windsy across the north. the winds won't be as strong as with storm esha, but because storm isha has only just cleared , it could. of only just cleared, it could. of course, some structural issues . course, some structural issues. so we have warnings in place so we do have warnings in place abroad yellow warning gusts abroad and yellow warning gusts of 55 to 65 miles an hour and the amber warning across northern and western scotland, where gusts could touch miles where gusts could touch 80 miles an . an hour. >> brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on

gb news. away. >> hello. good evening . it's me, >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight as the town of port talbot braces itself for the closure of two blast furnaces with nearly 3000 jobs expected to be lost, surely it's time to address the culprit of this industrial bloodbath. costly green policies. i'll also be revealing a state of the nafion be revealing a state of the nation first, in just a moment. meanwhile, a teacher who was banned by the regulator for referring to a student by their correct pronouns is set to take the ruling to the high court as new government guidance explicitly states, no one is compelled to use preferred pronouns, they'll be joining me live in the studio. i'll also be speaking to three family members of israeli hostages who anxiously await the fate of their loved ones as they visit their loved ones as they visit the uk to keep their plight in

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