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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. >> good afternoon britain. >> it's 12:00 on tuesday 23rd of january with the rebel strikes will go live to the commons imminently, where the prime minister will brief mps after the joined the us in carrying the uk joined the us in carrying out joint airstrikes in the out more joint airstrikes in the yemen night . yemen last night. >> but is there a risk of escalation and is our military equipped a prolonged equipped for a prolonged campaign? the lords have their say. >> the unelected chamber has been of acting against been accused of acting against the will of the people as peers attempt to torpedo rishi sunak . attempt to torpedo rishi sunak. rwanda it time to rwanda plan is it time to aboush rwanda plan is it time to abolish the of lords? abolish the house of lords? >> mhm. >> em- >> mhm. >> mooch speaks e mooch speaks out. >> and the mooch speaks out. donald trump's former white house communications chief sensationally declares he's backing joe biden over his old boss to win the us presidential election. anthony scaramucci will join us live for exclusive insight into a possible second trump terme and what it might mean for britain .
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mean for britain. yes, well, we're going to be heanng yes, well, we're going to be hearing from the prime minister at around 1230 in the house of commons. he's going to be giving a statement to his colleagues, his parliamentary colleagues , his parliamentary colleagues, about what happened. >> they've been demanding one, haven't they? starmer kicking up a that they weren't a fuss, saying that they weren't briefed yes, yes. >> yes, yes, yes. >> well he had one of his uh his mps doing the rounds this morning she suggested morning and she suggested that keir not told about keir starmer was not told about these strikes in advance. >> should he be told, can can the government not just get on with its business and then address parliament, as he's doing now at midday and also starmer? a few weeks ago , starmer? just a few weeks ago, pottering around estonia in a military playing prime military jacket, playing prime minister i mean, is that what we want from the leader of the opposition? can't you wait turn? >> presumably, was told >> presumably, he was told before first round of before the first round of strikes, made strikes, and it's been made clear if the houthis don't clear that if the houthis don't back down, strikes will back down, then strikes will continue. can the government reasonably the opposition
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reasonably brief the opposition every time they strike down these rebels? >> well, sunaks address in parliament in what, 29 minutes? so join us live for that. i'm also looking forward to anthony scaramucci, donald trump's former house former white house communications chief, once a trump loyalist, said he loved the former president, now says he's going to back joe biden if trump wins the believe that he used mean , i'll ask him used to. i mean, i'll ask him when we speak to but the when we speak to him. but the mooch, called, used to mooch, as he's called, used to say was trump's biggest say he was trump's biggest loyalist, but clearly not. >> he seems to be >> and now he seems to be trump's biggest enemy. political enemy. thank you very enemy. anyway, thank you very much. well headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> emily, thank you very much. and good afternoon. these are your top stories from the gb newsroom. i'm a mass screening of more than 300,000 police officers, staff and volunteers has led to nine criminal investigations , says the review, investigations, says the review, which was carried out in the wake of sarah everard's murder by a serving officer, uncovered
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461 cases in need of assessment . 461 cases in need of assessment. most of the officers were ranked chief inspector or below, but one chief officer was found to need management action. one case involved alleged sexual offences, while another was due to claims of drug offences. there were also two accusations of fraud . a man who killed three of fraud. a man who killed three people in a spate of attacks in nottingham has had his not guilty plea accepted on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to mental illness . the 32 year old waldo illness. the 32 year old waldo carl heneghan , also known as carl heneghan, also known as adam mendes, instead pled guilty to manslaughter in november. he killed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley. cooma and school caretaker ian coates. in june last year. he also admitted trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks . british strikes on attacks. british strikes on houthi targets in yemen are designed to send a clear message. that's according to the foreign secretary. british
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aircraft used precision guided bombs strike several targets bombs to strike several targets near an airfield in the capital, sanaa. the uk and the us have been patrolling areas in the red sea after a spate of attacks on commercial ships by iranian backed militants. the leader of the lib dems, sir ed davey, said it was deeply disappointing that the strikes were launched without debate in parliament, without a debate in parliament, but cameron says the uk is but lord cameron says the uk is following its words with strong action, while the houthis are doing is unacceptable. >> it's illegal and it's threatening the freedom of navigation. why we've navigation. that's why we've taken the action. alongside that action is a whole set of measures we'll be taking, including sanctions and other pressure to put on the houthis combined. of course, with the action the royal navy is taking with others in the red sea . and with others in the red sea. and we'll building the strongest we'll be building the strongest coalition of support back the coalition of support to back the steps that we've been taken. >> another storm sweeping across britain, bringing fresh disruption for commuters. just a day after storm esha, the met office says storm jocelyn will bnng office says storm jocelyn will bring strong winds with amber
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and yellow alerts issued for much of the country. yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern parts scotland . and eastern parts of scotland. transpennine express is among several train operators warning of disruption. it's urging passengers to avoid travelling between england and scotland from 3:00 this afternoon . rishi from 3:00 this afternoon. rishi sunak says the uk will work with belgium to combat people smuggling gangs, as he welcomed the country's prime minister to downing street. alexander de croo praised britain as a good neighbour , with the two leaders neighbour, with the two leaders pledging to tackle illegal migration with increased cooperation. the belgian leader said he looked forward to working with the uk in what he described as the first of a kind law enforcement partnership . law enforcement partnership. meanwhile, lord cameron is urging his fellow peers to get behind the government's push to send asylum seekers to rwanda . send asylum seekers to rwanda. they voted last night in favour of pausing the plan until ministers can prove rwanda is a safe destination. britain's treaty with the central african
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nafion treaty with the central african nation is a key part of its plan for asylum claims to be processed outside of britain . processed outside of britain. the bill would compel judges to regard rwanda as a safe country . regard rwanda as a safe country. royal mail has been charging customers £5 to get their post after senders unknowingly bought fake stamps from some post offices. an investigation by gb news found books of stamps bought directly from post offices and some local supermarkets were found to be counterfeit . those affected are counterfeit. those affected are now being forced to pay four times the cost of a standard first class stamp. the post office says it received stamps directly from royal mail. a spokesperson for royal mail told gb news it has a robust process for verifying stamps, and anyone who thinks they've been incorrectly charged should contact them . and 2 million contact them. and 2 million people could have their gas and electricity cut off this winter because they can't afford to pay their bills. sitting advice says it's concerned over the
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affordability of essential services . that's after ofgem services. that's after ofgem announced power companies will be allowed to resume forcibly installing prepayment metres in some households . those are your some households. those are your top stories on gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on digital, radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to ben and . emily now now back to ben and. emily now britain and the us launched fresh attacks against the houthi rebels in yemen overnight as the militant group continues to attack commercial and military shipping in the red sea . shipping in the red sea. >> so justifying the latest >> yes. so justifying the latest round of airstrikes, foreign secretary lord cameron said that britain and the us want to send the possible message britain and the us want to send the their possible message britain and the us want to send the their wordssible message britain and the us want to send the their words will message britain and the us want to send the their words will bezssage britain and the us want to send the their words will be backed that their words will be backed by action. but iran, which arms and funds the houthi rebels, condemned the strikes as a strategic mistake . strategic mistake. >> now for more on this let's speaks to gb news security editor mark white, who has some
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breaking news for us. mark. >> yeah , this is the maritime >> yeah, this is the maritime trade operations centre . it's trade operations centre. it's effectively run by the royal naval reserve and it's all designed to alert shipping in areas like the red sea of potential threats. their report thing that a number of aerial drones have been spotted in the red sea, southwest off the yemen coast , and red sea, southwest off the yemen coast, and shipping in the area is on alert, being told to look out for anything suspicious and, of course, to report to the maritime authorities if they see anything. the real concern here, of course, is that given these strikes last night, of course, is that given these strikes last night , the houthi strikes last night, the houthi rebels control . view with the rebels control. view with the striae that have been taking place in the red sea in the gulf of aden for months now, and certainly since those strikes that the uk first took part in
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on the 11th of january, we heard from from the british government then that those strikes were intended to be limited and proportionate . but since then proportionate. but since then there have been a dozen separate strikes on shipping in that area by the houthi rebels in defiance of this . blue nose that they of this. blue nose that they received from the uk and the us. back on the 11th of january, we, the us have responded with smaller scale strikes in recent days, but now the uk is back and involved and sending those four typhoon guns from raf akrotiri in cyprus on a43 thousand plus round trip down to the yemen to target , we're told, targets target, we're told, targets around the main airfield in the yemen capital, sanaa . uh, taking yemen capital, sanaa. uh, taking out, uh, who t installations there that were involved. we're
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told, in sending missiles towards those ships. >> thank you for bringing us that breaking news. should we be sceptical that the houthi rebels will back down, um, with will cease their assaults . on cease their assaults. on shipping routes as a result of this retaliatory attacks from the us and the uk will they back down? >> um, yeah. i think we should be very sceptical of anything that they do . but what we know that they do. but what we know about the houthis is that they are, you know, battle hardened, belligerent after years of being pummelled by a very significant military in the form of saudi arabia, the saudi arabians had to realise that they are not going to be able to bomb the houthis into submission. and that conflict is effectively paused. that conflict is effectively paused . um, that conflict is effectively paused. um, so that conflict is effectively paused . um, so even though these paused. um, so even though these strikes were carried out with the full intention by the us and the full intention by the us and the uk , that that would be it,
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the uk, that that would be it, that the houthi rebels would get the message and desist from attacking these vessels in the red sea . and the gulf of aden. red sea. and the gulf of aden. it's clear that the houthis are not doing that. and in fact, they've made numerous public statements to say that they will continue to and not target continue to and not just target ships, which they say have been unked ships, which they say have been linked to israel, but actually to widen that out now to include ships that have a link to the us and the uk, because the us and the uk struck them militarily, militarily . militarily. >> so what you're saying is this clear message that lord cameron says. clear message that lord cameron says . this retaliatory, says. this retaliatory, retaliatory action is giving . retaliatory action is giving. may not work, may have no effect? >> no, i mean, i think lord cameron, in his interview this morning as well, in his own words, he acknowledged that the reason why the uk is back shoulder to shoulder with the us and carrying out strikes again overnight is because the houthis
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have not got that message . have not got that message. they're not prepared to listen and stop their attacks . there and stop their attacks. there have been a dozen such attacks since the 11th of january, and therefore the uk is continuing in its operation alongside the us to degrade the houthis . but us to degrade the houthis. but i guess the issue is now, where do we go in the longer terms, um, are we being sucked in to a much deeper conflict? if the saudis couldn't do it over a number of years , are we talking about years, are we talking about airstrike and maritime strikes that are taking place over not weeks, but months and maybe even into years that is going to have a cost that will be felt by the us and . by the uk in the months us and. by the uk in the months and years ahead, if that is the case. yeah >> it's important to remember that the houthis aren't just some ragtag militia running around with acas on the yemeni
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coast. proper coast. they're a proper outfit who, you mark, they who, as you said, mark, they withstood a considerable bombing campaign withstood a considerable bombing campypartners the middle other partners in the middle east ago. white, east some years ago. mark white, thanks we're thanks very much for that. we're going to cross now to former chief of the air staff at the raf, sir michael graydon, who joins us live. good morning, sir michael. um, is it still the case that we're not equipped, really, for a scrap in red really, for a scrap in the red sea? aircraft are sea? our aircraft carriers are still languishing in portsmouth, aren't . aren't they. >> well, we're using what we've got available at the moment. and possibly working with the americans is, is the way ahead here? um it's a very difficult. one. i mean, just picking up some of the points that were made in with your earlier conversation. >> i think we have to be careful that we don't, as it were. look at the saudi operation in, uh, which had a root in which was had a root in political dimensions as opposed to what we are doing with coalition partners is not just the americans and ourselves. >> everybody who has an interest
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in trade passing through the suez canal is involved in. >> but what we are doing is trying to say to the houthis, you cannot you cannot intercept and attack in free water, uh, ships that are bound to go through the suez canal. and i think that is a more restricted aim, and therefore one that is more possible. >> although i share your view that it's going to be quite some time before it ever. >> uh, it was success. i think it's worth also saying, if i may, that that, uh, there was a comment i thought was extremely apt that the performance of the royal air force people was , as royal air force people was, as the chief of air staff, current chief of the air staff, said, both proportionate , most precise both proportionate, most precise and most professional. and i think that's something we need to keep in mind. proportionality and precision and professional is surely something we should be really quite proud of. do you get the impression that if a
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resolution is found between israel and gaza, the ongoing war there , that the houthi rebels there, that the houthi rebels would . cease their assaults on would. cease their assaults on shipping lanes? >> or is this much bigger than that ? that? >> i think that's up to iran. >> i think that's up to iran. >> um , iran has got its sticky >> um, iran has got its sticky very much involved in this. >> and the question which, uh, goes closer to it, uh, than me will be asking themselves is just how far is iran prepared to go in this direction ? i think go in this direction? i think the general wisdom at the moment is that she doesn't really want to get into a fight with america directly , uh, which is, of directly, uh, which is, of course, always in the background. so . so the answer, i background. so. so the answer, i think, to your question is if iran feels that it wants to continue, can take the risks, then it will continue to, um, but if iran starts backing away from that, then the houthis are going to run out of capability.
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>> quite quickly . >> probably quite quickly. >> probably quite quickly. >> what do you make of the fact that there's some there are arguments that we're still giving . money to ukraine. rishi giving. money to ukraine. rishi sunak, of course, was there a few weeks ago giving another £2.5 billion in military aid, yet we seem really a bit ill equipped to deal with this situation, unless we're on the coattails united states. coattails of the united states. is an argument there is there an argument there that we be money to we shouldn't be giving money to to, our own armed to, ukraine whilst our own armed forces are quite considerably depleted ? yes we absolutely should. >> this is an existential fight in europe and it affects us in many ways, a lot more than what is happening in that, uh, middle part world. um the, the part of the world. um the, the reality is that we have for a long time not had stock levels which would be demanded for a conventional war. and we're now being found out on that score . being found out on that score. so i hope that the message is very clear to our politicians that we to very that we need to look very carefully at whether we are
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seriously of conducting seriously capable of conducting a and in the a conventional war. and in the meantime , you must we must meantime, you must we must support ukraine because they are fighting a battle for us, for democracy, for europe and the free world. >> so, michael, i, i mean, let's let's get to it. really. i mean, the real concern of people watching and listening to this show will be the fear of escalation in, um, what are the chances of this escalating further into a war? essentially . further into a war? essentially. i don't think it will escalate into war unless iran deems. that a war is in their interests, and icannot a war is in their interests, and i cannot see it being an interest. >> we're talking about the united states, which is immensely powerful and is capable of doing a amount capable of doing a huge amount of it was if they of damage if it was if they deemed it necessary in, in iran. and i don't think iran is ready.
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for that. so escalation . i don't for that. so escalation. i don't see that as being an immediate problem . um, i mean, who knows? problem. um, i mean, who knows? things happen. but, um, i come back to really where a lot of this is stemming from is, of course, the israel and palestinian tragedy that is ongoing at the moment. and i hope very much that something can be done to stop the warfare there and to sit down and try and talk about a future way aheadin and talk about a future way ahead in that part of the world, which i think will then rebound to advantage in the gulf. >> yes, we're hearing, uh, sounds we're hearing that potentially, potentially israel would, would two would, uh, would allow a two month if all hostages month ceasefire if all hostages are released. so that might be a step in the right direction if that could be concluded, if that could be agreed. thank you very much for your time. really appreciate michael appreciate it. sir michael graydon, air graydon, former chief of the air staff at the i think it was lord cameron who said that he didn't think really at the heart of
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this situation in the sea, this situation in the red sea, that it was to israel or gaza. >> he thinks that it's iran using it as an excuse to cause trouble. um, iran does. well, yeah. and also i'm interested to speak to anthony scaramucci later in the show , uh, donald later in the show, uh, donald trump's former white house comms chief. i want to ask him about the fact joe biden unfroze about around $6 billion of iran's assets in november, and then a few weeks later, this situation in the red sea heats up. i want to know what he thinks of that was biden possibly partly to blame for kicking so blame for this kicking off so well, yes, definitely. >> i'll be forward to >> i'll be looking forward to heanng >> i'll be looking forward to hearing has to say. what hearing what he has to say. what anthony has to anthony scaramucci has to say to that. up shortly, that. but coming up shortly, we'll live in the house of we'll be live in the house of commons rishi will commons because rishi sunak will be on the be giving a statement on the latest of joint latest round of joint airstrikes. anywhere
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. >> well, yesterday we were reporting on storm isha and all the destruction there and the travel chaos. and now the uk is bracing for the 10th named storm of the season. that's as high winds and rain of storm josslyn make their way across the country. >> was it asia or asia? did we decide? >> in the end, i think we decided asia, although i think i called it asia. most of the show, uh, the, the met office has issued dangerous to life has issued a dangerous to life alert across parts scotland alert across parts of scotland that's to flying debris. that's due to flying debris. >> and there's other smaller warnings northern warnings ready for northern parts of england as well. let's cross to northern cross live to our northern ireland. reporter dougie beattie, who hopefully hasn't
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been blown away just yet. you're still there, dougie . still there, dougie. >> i am indeed. i've still there, dougie. >> i am indeed . i've been very >> i am indeed. i've been very wet this morning, it must be said, and this road in particular this morning was completely blocked by a tree. we've electricity we've been with the electricity service today and having a look at how they're reconnecting homes. but really, when this all boils down to the very bottom of the problems that you have when a storm comes in, there are much bigger problems. number one, we look at maintenance of trees like this along the sides of roads , and what happens when roads, and what happens when they come down. now, when they cleared this tree from if they come down. now, when they ccould this tree from if they come down. now, when they ccould just tree from if they come down. now, when they ccould just gete from if they come down. now, when they c could just get the m if they come down. now, when they ccould just get the camera if they come down. now, when they ccould just get the camera to i could just get the camera to point in here, you will see in the root of that tree in there is concrete pipes, and those concrete pipes are what takes the water away from the side of the water away from the side of the roads and of course, they are the gullies of the road. and stop flooding happening at a later date. and of course, now that will also have to be repaired and looked after. uh, but you know, it just shows you
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the sort of expense that a councillor will go to and how services have to work alongside each other and maybe what happenedin each other and maybe what happened in that two year lockdown period when general maintenance wasn't being done on such evergreens as this ? of such evergreens as this? of course they are evergreen. they're a full of water, so they're very heavy. they're great for breaking the wind and shelter. but of course, when the wind catches them, they act like a massive seal and come down and cause problems with the electricity service , with roads electricity service, with roads service, when they are trying to reconnect these areas. and of course, our services in northern ireland at this moment in time, especially around forestry. and so forth, are on strike, which means that this morning the electricity board had to come in here with a nine ton digger and basically , instead of cutting basically, instead of cutting the tree up totally , they have the tree up totally, they have pushed it to the side of the road because they aren't qualified and it's not their job qualified and it's not theirjob to be doing that. it is their job to run power to the areas that unfortunately, have been left without and we are looking
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now another heavy wind now at another heavy wind warning for tonight. coming back into northern ireland and heading into scotland. >> me . so those >> and goodness me. so those power outages could be, uh , power outages could be, uh, prolonged. dougie . prolonged. dougie. >> yes, very much so . these >> yes, very much so. these these electricity. uh workmen here are really they are. and i've said this all along. they're experts at doing this because ireland is a whole north and south. the teams work very closely together and they're well practised at this. and well rehearsed at it. but when they've been caught, uh, in one side, especially with strikes with their partners and then another storm coming in at the back of it, it will cause further problems. and of course, people don't like to hear this, but electricity services, water services, they put real emphasis on keeping the main population running. and those in the rural countryside will suffer because of it. well thank you very much indeed for your time, dougie beattie in northern ireland wish to the best to those, uh, people
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out there without any power. >> not good at all. but we're going to be hearing in the next few from the prime few moments from the prime minister going to be giving minister he's going to be giving this, uh, statement the house this, uh, statement to the house of commons the strikes . of commons on the strikes. what's say? well, what's he going to say? well, what's going to say? what's he going to say? i presumably he's going to detail what then he'll be what happened and then he'll be telling were telling us that they were successful and that the government will continue on. do you do you suspect the labour frontbenchers will be getting a bit rowdy over the fact they claim they weren't briefed on last night's despite last night's strikes, despite ministers doing the rounds this morning saying they were briefed. >> so who's telling the truth? well, who is telling the truth? >> be both. can't be >> it can't be both. can't be true, can they? >> i mean, suspect was >> no. i mean, i suspect it was probably a case of a bit, you know, a bit in middle. they know, a bit in the middle. they were perhaps a couple of were told perhaps a couple of minutes strikes, minutes after the strikes, maybe labour wanted a full labour and starmer wanted a full briefing before the strikes. but my that of a lot of my argument and that of a lot of our viewers as well, you're emailing is why emailing in the inbox is why should opposition be given a should the opposition be given a running commentary of everything the does ? and i the government does? and i mentioned earlier, this comes
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off of starmer off the back of starmer playacting as pm a couple of weeks back estonia , doing weeks back in estonia, doing a tour it an base ? tour of was it an raf base? >> well, apparently is >> well, apparently it is protocol to brief the opposition when there a military when there is a military operation underway. okay fine. but this is this is a continued , but this is this is a continued, uh, strike action against the houthi rebels, as there's already been a first round, hasn't there? so it doesn't seem necessarily that that is the right thing to do. right or necessary thing to do. but shall we speak to conservative mp sir robert buckland ? robert, thank you very buckland? robert, thank you very much for joining buckland? robert, thank you very much forjoining us on the show. much for joining us on the show. we're about to hear from the prime minister. he's going to give his statement and what's happened us, happened overnight. tell us, what to say? has what is he likely to say? has this action had the desired effect ? well i think the prime effect? well i think the prime minister is going to explain the bafis minister is going to explain the basis for the action. >> i think he's rightly come to parliament to outline what i think was the very clear legal bafis think was the very clear legal basis for taking , um, this basis for taking, um, this strike against a group of gangsters , frankly, who are
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gangsters, frankly, who are seeking to hold not just parts of yemen to hostage, but the entire red sea. um uh, seaway. and, you know, that's so important for world trade. it's important for world trade. it's important for world trade. it's important for our trade . it's important for our trade. it's important for our trade. it's important for our trade. it's important for wider world as important for the wider world as well. and i think, you know, once again, the uk, the us and other partners you like, other partners are, if you like, acting , uh, police officers acting as, uh, police officers trying to deal with a problem that threatens, i think , the that threatens, i think, the economic well—being of millions and millions of people. why should these gangsters hold the rest of us to ransom? they have no legitimacy . they're not an no legitimacy. they're not an elected government. they're a bunch of terrorists. >> is it just britain and the us here launching these retaliatory attacks or are our european neighbours joining in to you know, the support from the dutch and other countries as well? >> and i think increasingly it's important that that nato members are the european countries also, not just show solidarity, but demonstrate that through logistical support and indeed
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direct involvement in in this type of action, you know, we should be confident as, uh, representatives , if you like, of representatives, if you like, of the rule of law and the importance of maintaining international shipping lanes to take action where necessary. and i'm glad that the prime minister and the american have shown resolution here. they've looked at the evidence. it's clearly a legal justification. there's a strong concern about shipping and the danger to shipping. and we're taking action. and it's only right that we do. >> so, robert, let's let's have the truth then. were labour briefed this morning or not? who's telling porkies . briefed this morning or not? who's telling porkies. i briefed this morning or not? who's telling porkies . i don't know. >> look, i do know that, um, senior opposition figures as privy counsellors are entitled to a briefing on what we call privy council terms. >> that's secret terms. >> that's secret terms. >> um , but there's a world of difference. >> i think, as as you pointed out, between briefing on an initial action and then what was the clear understanding that that we were going to have to
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continue to take action, bearing in mind the fact that the houthis don't seem to want to back down? and i say that back down? and i must say that all of noise about, all this sort of noise about, you know, parliament having to approve actions, don't approve these actions, i don't agree at all. if agree with that at all. if you're going to be fleet foot you're going to be fleet of foot and interests , and defend national interests, you've got to use the power that you've got to use the power that you government, which you have as a government, which is call the prerogative is what we call the prerogative power. know, the power. uh, you know, the government's power to do that. and i think you know, and i think that you know, attempts by parliament to try and, insist on vote every and, um, insist on a vote every time does time the government does anything like this are misplaced and will actually weaken our security . security. >> yeah. so, robert, uh, the prime minister, he won't too be pleased with the house of lords this morning. uh, he said he pled he plead to the to the house of lords saying, don't frustrate the will of the people when it comes to the rwanda bill, but, uh, uh , his plan has bill, but, uh, uh, his plan has suffered its first parliamentary defeat . uh, what do you say to defeat. uh, what do you say to that? really are the house of lords obstructing the will of the people here?
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>> well, the vote yesterday wasn't binding. >> it doesn't relate to the bill itself. >> um , i think that, um, there >> um, i think that, um, there making a point that they want to make sure that the law matches reality. >> i don't actually have a problem with that. you know, i want rwanda to want our friends in rwanda to get implementing all get on with implementing all the, that they've the, um, measures that they've agreed under the treaty. >> important we do >> i think it's important we do that so that can any that so that we can avoid any more legal wrangles. >> and i do hope that when the bill comes to the lords, they don't the bill itself. don't obstruct the bill itself. they're entitled to revise and put amendments. but i think put down amendments. but i think trying block the bill would trying to block the bill would be from the be a big mistake from the unelected conservative mp unelected house conservative mp sir robert buckland. >> thank you forjoining us very >> thank you for joining us very much appreciated. we are going to commons very to go live to the commons very shortly sunak . um, shortly with rishi sunak. um, statement to parliament on last night's strikes . we'll be with night's strikes. we'll be with that very shortly . first though, that very shortly. first though, let's go to headlines with let's go to your headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> ben , thank you very much and
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>> ben, thank you very much and good afternoon. your top stories from the gb newsroom . unmanned from the gb newsroom. unmanned aerial drones have been spotted in the red sea off the coast of yemen. according to the uk maritime trade operations centre. shipping in the area is now being put on alert. that comes after a joint strike by the uk and us on houthi targets in yemen overnight. foreign secretary lord cameron said the strike was an act of defence. we can now take you live to the house of commons, where the prime minister is due to give a statement on those attacks in yemen, including in intelligence and ongoing and imminent threat from houthis to uk from the houthis to uk commercial and military vessels , commercial and military vessels, and to those of our partners in the sea and wider region . the red sea and wider region. >> i told the house last week that we would not hesitate to respond the acts continue in respond if the acts continue in order to protect innocent lives and preserve the freedom of navigation and that is what we have done . we acted alongside have done. we acted alongside the united states with support from australia, bahrain , canada from australia, bahrain, canada and the netherlands . we acted on and the netherlands. we acted on
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the same basis as the 11th of january, fully in line with international law. in self—defence and in response to a persistent threat . and as with a persistent threat. and as with the first wave, the strikes were limited to carefully selected targets with maximum care taken to protect civilian lives . mr to protect civilian lives. mr speaken to protect civilian lives. mr speaker, attempting to counter every hootie attack after it has been launched is simply not sustainable . we have already sustainable. we have already shot down dozens of missiles and drones targeted at civilian vessels and at the royal navy , vessels and at the royal navy, and the houthis have conducted at least 12 further attacks on shipping since the 11th of january, including just last night shortly before our strikes were conducted. so we acted to further degrade their ability to mount such attacks . last week, mount such attacks. last week, i gave the house our initial assessment of the first wave of strikes. since then, we have seen further evidence that they were successful in degrading the houthis military capability. last night we hit two military
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sites just north of sana'a, each containing multiple specific targets , which the houthis used targets, which the houthis used to support their attacks on shipping . and mr speaker, i want shipping. and mr speaker, i want to be very clear. we are not seeking a confrontation. we urge the houthis and those who enable them to stop these illegal and unacceptable attacks. yes, but if necessary, the united kingdom will not hesitate to respond again in self—defence . we cannot again in self—defence. we cannot stand by and allow these attacks to go unchecked . and inaction is to go unchecked. and inaction is also a choice . with that in also a choice. with that in mind, mr speaker , and given the mind, mr speaker, and given the persistent nature of the threat , persistent nature of the threat, it was important to update to the house again today. i listened carefully to honourable and right honourable members last week, and we will give last week, and so we will give the house a chance for a full debate on our broader approach in the red sea tomorrow . mr in the red sea tomorrow. mr speaken in the red sea tomorrow. mr speaker, we took extensive steps to address this threat to international security before
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taking military action, we launched operation prosperity guardian in december with over 20 other countries . the 20 other countries. the international community issued repeated statements on the 1st of december, the 19th of december, the 3rd of january, the 12th of january, condemning the 12th of january, condemning the attacks and urging the houthis to desist. on the 10th of january, the united nations security council passed a resolution demanding that they stop the attacks, and i think it is important to note also that the internationally recognised government of yemen has also condemned the houthis for their actions , accusing them of actions, accusing them of creating a conflict for propaganda serving only their own selfish ends. mr speaker , as own selfish ends. mr speaker, as we saw in the house last week, members are rightly keen to hear how this situation could be brought to an end. the answer must include the vital right to self defence when we're attacked . but that is only one part of our wider response , which i want our wider response, which i want to say more about today . first,
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to say more about today. first, we are increasing our diplomatic engagement because we recognise the deep concerns about and the complexities of the current situation . i spoke to president situation. i spoke to president biden about these issues last night . the foreign secretary night. the foreign secretary will be in the region in the coming days, and he met his iranian counterpart last week. he made clear that they must cease supplying the houthis with weapons and intelligence and use their influence to stop houthi attacks . second, we must end the attacks. second, we must end the illegal flow of arms to the houthi militia . we have houthi militia. we have intercepted weapons shipments in the region before, including components of the very missiles used by the houthis. today this bnngs used by the houthis. today this brings home the importance of maritime security in the region , maritime security in the region, and that includes working closely with our allies and partners to disrupt and deter the supply of weapons and components . third, we are going components. third, we are going to use the most effective means at our disposal to cut off the houthis financial resources ,
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houthis financial resources, where they are used to fund these attacks . we are working these attacks. we are working closely with the united states on this and plan to announce new sanction measures in the coming days. sanction measures in the coming days . fourth, we need to keep days. fourth, we need to keep helping the people of yemen who have suffered so terribly as a result of the country's civil war. we will continue to deliver humanitarian aid and support a negotiated peace in that conflict, not just because it's the right thing to do, but also because we need to show the people of yemen that we have no quarrel with them. a yemeni quarrel with them. as a yemeni government itself understands . government itself understands. so, mr speaker, this is our strategy, and we will keep all the other tools under close review as well. mr speaker , i review as well. mr speaker, i repeat that there is no link between our actions of self—defence in the red sea and the situation in israel and gaza . for those who make that link, do the houthis work for them? yes, yes . and i want to be clear yes, yes. and i want to be clear that those here at home who glorify the houthis attacks are
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glorifying terrorism , plain and glorifying terrorism, plain and simple . they will be met with a simple. they will be met with a zero tolerance approach . now, zero tolerance approach. now, all of that said, mr speaker , i all of that said, mr speaker, i would like to address the situation in israel and gaza directly because it remains at the forefront of members minds . the forefront of members minds. president biden and i again discussed this yesterday , and he discussed this yesterday, and he shares my deep concerns about the situation, about the terrible suffering and loss of civilian lives. so together, we are working to establish a new aid route through the port of ashdod . and, mr speaker, the uk ashdod. and, mr speaker, the uk wants to see an end to the fighting in gaza as soon as possible. we are calling for an immediate humanitarian pause to get aid in, and hostages out as a vital step towards building a sustainable , permanent ceasefire sustainable, permanent ceasefire without a return to destruction. fighting and loss of life. but to achieve that, hamas must agree to the release of all hostages they can no longer be in charge of gaza. the threat from hamas terror and rocket
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attacks must end, and an agreement must be in place for the palestinian authority to return to gaza to provide governance, services and security . that is the pathway to security. that is the pathway to peace that should unite the whole house. and i believe we are also united in support of a two state solution . mr speaker , two state solution. mr speaker, through all the complexity of the current situation , our the current situation, our principles hold firm , resolute principles hold firm, resolute in the face of threats , in the face of threats, compassionate in support of those in need, and determined in maintaining stability, secure city and the rule of law . that city and the rule of law. that is what our allies and partners have come to expect from the united kingdom. that is what we stand for, and i commend this statement to the house. >> i now call the leader of the opposition, keir starmer . opposition, keir starmer. >> yes . thank opposition, keir starmer. >> yes. thank you, mr speaker. >> yes. thank you, mr speaker. >> and thank you to the prime minister for advance copy of his statement . statement. >> labour said we will judge further action on the houthis on
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a case by case basis . a case by case basis. >> so let me be clear. >> we back this targeted action to reinforce maritime security in the red sea . in the red sea. >> the houthi attacks must stop. >> the houthi attacks must stop. >> they are designed to destabilise us. >> so we must stand united and strong. >> they bring danger to ordinary civilians working hard at sea. so we must protect them. and they aim to disrupt the flow of goods, food and medicines. so we must not let them go unaddressed . the professionalism and bravery of those serving on hms diamond and flying raf typhoons are both totally accepted and completely remarkable. without them, britain cannot be a force for good in the world. mr speaken for good in the world. mr speaker, these are, of course, the second set of strikes that the second set of strikes that the uk has participated in and the uk has participated in and the stated aim of the first set
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was to deter and degrade houthi capability . was to deter and degrade houthi capability. but we was to deter and degrade houthi capability . but we now know that capability. but we now know that their attacks have continued . their attacks have continued. and so while we do not question the justice location for action, it is right that the house hears more about their effectiveness . more about their effectiveness. laboun more about their effectiveness. labour, of course, recognises that strikes can be used to reduce threat without eliminating it, and we recognise that the military action taken is just one component of a wider diplomatic strategy . but diplomatic strategy. but nonetheless, i would ask the prime minister to set out his confidence that these strikes will be effective in reducing houthi capabilities . and while, houthi capabilities. and while, of course , we understand the of course, we understand the clear legal basis for these actions as the situation has evolved, can the prime minister now commit to restating and republishing the government's legal position ? mr speaker, legal position? mr speaker, alongside the uk and the us, other countries have provided non—operational support for these strikes and maritime
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protection in the red sea . many protection in the red sea. many more support the united nations security council resolution that utterly condemns the houthi attacks, so can i ask the prime minister what work is being done to hold together that coalition and to if possible, enlarge that coalition in the action? the uk takes must draw on the support of all those who care about international law and given the special role the uk plays in yemen , can he set out the yemen, can he set out the concrete steps in addition to those in his statement that we are taking to help the people of yemen who have suffered terribly as a result of that country's civil war, because mr speaker, the international community cannot allow itself to be divided . that is exactly what divided. that is exactly what the houthi backers in tehran would love to see. and on that note, can he also update the house on whether his government has given further consideration to the proscription of the irgc ?
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to the proscription of the irgc? we do need every tool at our disposal to disrupt irgc activities , and we must show activities, and we must show iran that it cannot pursue its ends by destabilising the entire region because , like the prime region because, like the prime minister, i totally reject the houthi claims that attacking ships from around the world is somehow linked to the conflict in gaza. these attacks do absolutely nothing for the palestinian people . what is palestinian people. what is neededin palestinian people. what is needed in gaza is a humanitarian truce. now a sustainable ceasefire to stop the killing of innocent civilians is the space for the return of all the hostages. urgent humanitarian relief and a decisive step towards a two state solution ? towards a two state solution? because, mr speaker , the because, mr speaker, the palestinian statehood is the inalienable right of the palestine people. it is not in the gift of a neighbour. so does he agree with me that a secure israel alongside a viable
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palestinian state, is the only path to a just and lasting peace ? because, mr speaker , we must ? because, mr speaker, we must stop those who sow division. we must do what we can to disrupt and deter houthis , and we must and deter houthis, and we must stay united and steadfast in defence of our values, our security and our right to self defence, labour will always act in the national interest and we provide our full support for these necessary and proportionate strikes. thank you, mr speaker. mr >> well, can i thank the leader of the opposition for his statement, but also his support, and i'm grateful to him for that. and he raises all the right questions about the action today, which i'm happy to answer. i think . first he asked answer. i think. first he asked about the effectiveness of strikes in deterring and precisely degrading capability . precisely degrading capability. i am pleased to tell him that further evidence after the initial statement i made last
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week , has demonstrated to us week, has demonstrated to us that the strikes last week were effective in degrading capability and all the intended targets were destroyed , and are targets were destroyed, and are more so pleased to say that our initial evidence from last night's strikes is also that all intended targets were destroyed , intended targets were destroyed, which demonstrates to us and in working with our allies who have the same view that the strikes are working to degrade capability, even as he said, there a difference there may be a difference between reducing and eliminating, are eliminating, but we are confident that we doing confident that what we are doing is working to degrade capability. targets are capability. the targets are specifically selected on the bafis specifically selected on the basis of intelligence, military sites, which impact the security and safety of seafarers , and and safety of seafarers, and shipping and to that end, i'm confident that , as i said, the confident that, as i said, the strikes are being carried out in a way that is effective in achieving their aim. and i thank him for acknowledging that the strikes sit within a wider strategy in the region to bring about an end to what we are seeing. the foreign secretary
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will be in the region this week engaging extensively with our partners and allies on all the topics he raised , and topics he raised, and particularly ensuring that we can continue to make progress on a sustainable peace in yemen and no doubt talking to our saudi partners about that, but also, crucially , broadening the crucially, broadening the coalition of support for the action that we have taken. as i pointed to in my statement, there have been multiple statements made by a wide coalition of countries from around the world in support of action, and he can rest assured that we are continuing to expand that we are continuing to expand that coalition of support, because the security of navigation and of shipping impacts all countries, wherever they might be, not just in the red sea. i think all of us have seen the consequences of the war in ukraine on energy bills across the european continent and beyond. so i think people are very alive to the interconnectedness of the global economy importance of economy and the importance of protecting of navigation protecting freedom of navigation everywhere and with regard to
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the legal advice , my the legal advice, my understanding was that we had or imminently about to publish a summary of the legal advice. i can happily give him that confirmation, but also just confirmation, but also just confirm him that the basis confirm to him that the basis for action remains the same as it was last time. but an update to that effect has been published or will shortly be published or will shortly be published by the attorney general . and lastly, i'll just general. and lastly, i'll just touch on his broader point. he's right to highlight the malign influence of iran in the region . influence of iran in the region. obviously, we don't comment on an ongoing decisions or processes around proscription of organisations, but he can rest assured that we're alive to the risk and working closely with our allies, and particularly the united states and our european allies, to jointly work out the most effective way of countering that influence, said the foreign secretary spoke to his counterpart last week, and we will continue to use all measures disposable to measures that are disposable to protect ourselves. we pass the national security act here in the uk and have already sanctioned the irgc in its
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entirety , but more generally on entirety, but more generally on the specific action that we have taken. i thank him again for his support that we have taken limited, proportionate and i believe necessary action in self—defence. we would always reserve the right to do that to protect innocent lives and freedom navigation in our freedom of navigation in our desired outcome. of course, is for the houthis to desist , to for the houthis to desist, to de—escalate the situation. what they are doing is unacceptable. and in and illegal, and the onus should be on them to stop it. but we will use all levers at our disposal, including diplomacy and sanctions , to diplomacy and sanctions, to achieve that objective. thank you . you. >> so the defence select committee, jeremy quin . committee, jeremy quin. >> thank you, mr speaker. >> thank you, mr speaker. >> can i welcome what my right hon. >> friend says about diplomatic and humanitarian efforts? >> well , there you go. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> there was a pretty amicable dialogue between . the prime dialogue between. the prime minister there and the leader of the opposition , uh, the prime the opposition, uh, the prime minister giving a statement initially about the strikes against the houthi rebels overnight. >> some interesting points .
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>> some interesting points. sunak, uh, the prime minister rather saying that anyone at home who seeks to glorify the houthi rebels , um, presumably houthi rebels, um, presumably a referencing protesters, some who at the weekend or the week before said, uh, yemen , yemen, before said, uh, yemen, yemen, make us proud, turn another ship around . he said they'd be met around. he said they'd be met with zero tolerance, um, which means i don't i don't know, but shall we speak to gb news security editor mark white, who's been listening carefully to what's been going on in the house of house of commons. >> what did you take from that? there to be a consensus there seems to be a consensus that this military action the that this military action on the part the us and was part of the us and the uk was the thing do . the right thing to do. >> yes. i mean , in terms of what >> yes. i mean, in terms of what the prime minister was saying, there clearly the hope is in washington and in london that the houthis will now get the message and they will step back from what they're doing. there's no indication that that's the case.in no indication that that's the case. in fact, just a short while ago, we were reporting more drone activity reported in the red sea . and the prime
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the red sea. and the prime minister said, look , if there is minister said, look, if there is more in the way of strikes on shipping passing through the red sea and the gulf of aden in that area, then the uk government would not hesitate to act again. he said. with regard to these strikes, he said it's impossible for the uk really to respond and to every instance where the houthis are striking at ships. however when they have made that assessment about the military capabilities and how best to use that, then this kind of action, a strike that is aimed at degrading that military capability of the houthi rebels , capability of the houthi rebels, is something that the uk . is something that the uk. clearly would be willing to partake in. again, with the us in the days and weeks ahead. i guess, you know, to an extent
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the ball is back in the court of the ball is back in the court of the houthi rebels here. what will they do? we've seen the drone activity today . if they drone activity today. if they continue with their strikes, then there's no doubt from what then there's no doubt from what the prime minister was saying there that there will be a military response from the us and the uk . does it take it into and the uk. does it take it into the longer terms? will the hope of the prime minister and indeed leaders in washington, is not you . heard there that they have you. heard there that they have been carrying out intelligence assessments where they are suggesting that that capability of the houthi rebels to launch these missiles at shipping in that area is being degraded. there was an assessment out, uh, a few days back that suggested that that military capability had been degraded by around 30% or so. what the current assessment is, we don't know. that will be worked on. obviously as they look at the
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satellite images, drone images , satellite images, drone images, intelligence from the ground to determine just how successful all the operations that took place overnight, where mark, i have to say, i'm extremely proud of our brave armed forces, our men and our women who are steaming out to the red sea to try deal with this situation i >> -- >> uh, despite clearly having depleted , um, uh, workforce and depleted, um, uh, workforce and also a lack of aircraft carriers and jets as well. however that said, why is it always the uk and the us? uh, seeing to this kind of thing, where is , uh, kind of thing, where is, uh, our, our european neighbours nato? why why is it us all the time. >> well, it's a good question. i mean, the uk says it has a right and responsible military to act to protect shipping. uh, ships that are vital to the uk's national interests. as well. of course, any , uh, shipping that course, any, uh, shipping that is targeted , uh, in the red sea is targeted, uh, in the red sea or the gulf of aden as a potential to cause effects
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further down the chain here in the uk . but on further down the chain here in the uk. but on that further down the chain here in the uk . but on that other point the uk. but on that other point there about why other nations are not joining in, i think it's are not joining in, i think it's a well—made point . are not joining in, i think it's a well—made point. uh, bahrain, canada , a few others have canada, a few others have offered some kind of support. i think more logistical in terms of the coalition, but the actual military strikes are being conducted primarily by the us with assistance from the uk . you with assistance from the uk. you have other nations out there taking part in the operation to try to protect shipping , but try to protect shipping, but that's not an offensive role to go. >> mark, i'm going to have to cut in there as we're coming up to the end of the hour, we're going to get more reaction to that from rishi sunak going to get more reaction to that after from rishi sunak going to get more reaction to that after the from rishi sunak going to get more reaction to that after the break. rishi sunak going to get more reaction to that after the break. rishi like|k just after the break. looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers is sponsors of whether on gb news . on gb news. >> hi there . it's aidan mcgivern >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. it's a wet and windy day out there,
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disruptive winds overnight as storm jostled moves in. now storm jostled moves in. now storm jocelyn coming just two days after storm esha is going to cause further impacts because of the ongoing repair and recovery work. but it is a notch down on what we saw with storm isha. i think overnight, the northern two thirds of the uk seeing gusts of 5060 miles an hour, seeing gusts of 5060 miles an hour , and for the north and west hour, and for the north and west of scotland , the risk of 80 mile of scotland, the risk of 80 mile per hour wind gusts. so not quite as strong as echr, but, uh, the potential for some significant impacts. nevertheless, we're going to see the to showers the rain turn to showers overnight. the heaviest downpours affecting downpours will be affecting scots and northern ireland further south. some clear spells nevertheless , blustery nevertheless, a blustery start for all as we begin for all of us as we begin wednesday. some decent bright weather out there and the winds do decrease through the do start to decrease through the morning and early part of the afternoon . soon we'll see afternoon. soon we'll see further showers across scotland. some thunderstorms here and there, but actually there'll be some sunshine in between for and many it's a fine start to the afternoon. but for wales in the
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southwest, some rain turns up by the end of the afternoon here, and going to be a mild day and it's going to be a mild day for all of us now. thursday starts off with the rain. i mentioned there, just moving northeast across country. northeast across the country. a lot cloud cover away from the lot of cloud cover away from the northeast scotland and northeast of scotland and increasingly once again. increasingly breezy once again. friday will see a mix of sunny spells with some showers in the north on saturday. more wind and rain. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it is 1:00 on tuesday. the 23rd of january. houthi rebel strikes. >> the prime minister has updated parliament on the joint uk us strikes on houthi rebels in yemen . he defended the in yemen. he defended the military action, saying he will not hesitate to take further strikes in the yemen. we'll break down, break down what he said and get all the latest reaction. >> we will indeed and the lords have their say . the unelected have their say. the unelected chamber been accused of chamber has been accused of acting against will of the acting against the will of the people peers attempt people as peers attempt to torpedo sunak rwanda plan. torpedo rishi sunak rwanda plan. is it time to abolish the house of lords? >> and this is a controversial one.the >> and this is a controversial one. the fat busting balloon pill now available on the nhs . pill now available on the nhs. the first two british patients have received the newest weight loss but is it right loss treatment, but is it right for it to be free through our health service?
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so a little bit earlier i said that why do we always take these posts , ons and concoctions to posts, ons and concoctions to lose weight? maybe just stop eating as much and maybe go down the gym? i've had a few emails from a few cross people who said it's as you said. actually it's not as simple as that. for some people, they struggle with their weight. maybe it's genetics, maybe weight. maybe it's genetics, ma'it's not. everyone is born >> it's not. everyone is born lean like you were born lean . lean like you were born lean. have you always been slim? uh the thing is, i grew up playing. >> have you ever struggled with your weight? no. >> well, exactly. you can't speak on this topic. >> you're unqualified to >> you're totally unqualified to talk >> you're totally unqualified to talii grew up playing sport. >> i grew up playing sport. i played a lot of tennis growing up.and played a lot of tennis growing up. and grow up in that up. and if you grow up in that environment, adapts to up. and if you grow up in that enviiitiment, adapts to up. and if you grow up in that enviiit stores adapts to up. and if you grow up in that enviiit stores fat adapts to up. and if you grow up in that enviiit stores fat when adapts to up. and if you grow up in that enviiit stores fat when you're ts to how it stores fat when you're older. so i'm on that front. >> but you know what i don't like? because you clearly got a super no, super pretty complex no, no, i haven't uh, you know, haven't at all. uh, you know, you you think you're you think you think you're better than people who have a
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few extra pounds? want to few extra pounds? no i want to empower people to things empower people to do things themselves, to educate themselves, to educate themselves nutrition themselves on food and nutrition and instead of just and exercise instead of just running to the chemist or the pharmacist why pharmacist and saying, why shouldn't? shouldn't someone shouldn't? why shouldn't someone take a capsule that contains a gastric balloon that is then filled with water to make them feel fuller for longer? that's what's wrong with that. >> that sounds enticing . >> that sounds enticing. >> that sounds enticing. >> it does sound a little bit sounds. >> sounds sounds lot of fun. >> sounds sounds a lot of fun. you'd a lot more fun going you'd have a lot more fun going down the gym and making nice food. >> and i know, but it is true that if you two and that if you take two people and they have the same lifestyle, they have the same lifestyle, they may not end the same they may not end up the same weight. well, actually, there's some pack the some people just pack on the pounds others pounds far quicker than others and other you know, and also other people, you know, it's vice. it's a vice. >> food is their vice . >> yeah, food is their vice. yeah. and it's hard to combat that. >> all right. well that was your starter. >> your mains coming later >> your mains coming up later with we're going to with our panel. we're going to discuss a bit further and with our panel. we're going to discwhat a bit further and with our panel. we're going to discwhat they bit further and with our panel. we're going to discwhat they think. ther and with our panel. we're going to discwhat they think. am and with our panel. we're going to discwhat they think. am ind with our panel. we're going to discwhat they think. am i just see what they think. am i just being bigoted and fat phobic? >> vaiews@gbnews.com. >> yeah. vaiews@gbnews.com. should fat shaming. should we stop the fat shaming. yeah. okay. well let's get the headunes yeah. okay. well let's get the headlines tatiana .
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headlines with tatiana. >> emily. thank you. and good afternoon. 1:02, your top stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister says the uk will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks in the red sea . rishi sunak told the red sea. rishi sunak told mps britain is not seeking a confrontation , even as he urged confrontation, even as he urged the houthis and those who enable them to stop what he called illegal and unacceptable attacks. he signalled new sanctions to be announced in the coming days. it comes after last night's joint strike with the us on houthi targets in yemen , on houthi targets in yemen, following attacks the iranian following attacks by the iranian backed militants commercial backed militants on commercial ships in the red the prime ships in the red sea. the prime minister says britain will deter any further attacks. we are not seeking a confrontation . seeking a confrontation. >> we urge the houthis and those who enable them to stop these illegal and unacceptable attacks. yes but if necessary, the united kingdom will not hesitate to respond again in self—defence . we cannot stand by
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self—defence. we cannot stand by and allow these attacks to go unchallenged , and inaction is unchauenged,andinacfionis also unchallenged, and inaction is also no a choice . also no a choice. >> the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says his party backs the government in its action. labour said we will judge further action on the houthis on a case by case basis, so let me be clear. >> we back this targeted action to reinforce maritime security in the red sea. the houthi attacks must stop . they are attacks must stop. they are designed to destabilise us. so we must stand united and strong . we must stand united and strong. they bring danger to ordinary civilians working hard at sea. so we must protect them . so we must protect them. >> another storm sweeping across britain, bringing fresh disruption for commuters. just a day after storm esha , the met day after storm esha, the met office says storm jocelyn will bnng office says storm jocelyn will bring strong winds with amber and yellow alerts issued for much of the country . yellow much of the country. yellow warnings rain and ice are warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern parts of scotland .
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and eastern parts of scotland. transpennine express is among several train operators warning of disruption . it's urging of disruption. it's urging passengers to avoid travelling between england and scotland from 3:00 this afternoon . a mass from 3:00 this afternoon. a mass screening of more than 300,000 police officers, staff and volunteers has led to nine criminal investigations . the criminal investigations. the review, which was carried out in the wake of sarah everard's murder by a serving officer, uncovered 461 cases in need of assessment , but most of the assessment, but most of the officers were ranked chief inspector or below. but one chief officer was found to need management action. one case involved alleged sexual offences, while another was due to claims of drug offences . to claims of drug offences. there were also two accusations of fraud . a man who killed three of fraud. a man who killed three people in a spate of attacks in nottingham has had his not guilty plea accepted on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to mental illness. 32 year old osvaldo carl heneghan , also known as carl heneghan, also known as adam mendes , instead pled guilty
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adam mendes, instead pled guilty to manslaughter in november. he killed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley. kumar and school caretaker ian coates in june last year. he also admitted to trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks . rishi sunak says the uk attacks. rishi sunak says the uk will work with belgium to combat people smuggling gangs , as he people smuggling gangs, as he welcomed the country's prime minister to downing street. alex de croo praised britain as a good neighbour, with the two leaders pledging to tackle illegal migration with increased cooperation. the belgian leader said he looked forward to working with the uk in what he described as a first of a kind law enforcement partnership . law enforcement partnership. donald trump says he expects his last remaining republican opponent to drop out after today's new hampshire primary. polls point to a likely victory for the former president , but for the former president, but nikki haley's exit is not guaranteed. the affluent
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northeastern state has a large number of independent voters, and the former un ambassador has gained support over recent months . royal gained support over recent months. royal mail has been charging customers £5 to get their post after senders unknowingly bought fake stamps from some post offices . an from some post offices. an investigation by gb news found books of stamps bought directly from post offices and some local supermarkets were found to be counterfeit . those affected are counterfeit. those affected are now being forced to pay four times the cost of a standard first class stamp. the post office says it receives stamps directly from royal mail, and a spokesperson told gb news it has a robust process for verifying stamps. anyone who thinks they've been incorrectly charged should contact them . and should contact them. and 2 million people could have their gas and electricity cut off this winter because they cannot afford to pay their bills . afford to pay their bills. citizens advice says it's concerned over the affordability of essential services . after of essential services. after ofgem announced power companies
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will be allowed to resume . i'm will be allowed to resume. i'm forcibly installing prepayment metres in some households . those metres in some households. those are your top stories on gb news as across the uk, on tv , in your as across the uk, on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to ben and . emily. and. emily. >> welcome back here with ben and emily on. good afternoon britain. it's 108 now. in the last hour, the prime minister updated the house of commons on the joint uk airstrikes the joint us, uk airstrikes against the houthi rebels overnight yemen as the overnight in yemen as the militant group continues to attack commercial and military shipping red sea. shipping in the red sea. >> sunak added that he >> us rishi sunak added that he will to take will not hesitate to take further action if necessary . further action if necessary. >> for more on this now, let's speak to gb news political correspondent olivia utley. live in westminster. correspondent olivia utley. live in westminster . olivia, what correspondent olivia utley. live in westminster. olivia, what did you make of rishi sunak's statement and sir keir starmer's response ? they were both quite
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response? they were both quite measured and agreeable, weren't they ? they? >> well, as emily said earlier, it felt like a very amicable exchange in the house of commons, rishi sunak said pretty much exactly what we were expecting him to say . this was expecting him to say. this was necessary action in self—defence and defending that really important shipping route in the red sea is vital to uk security, he said that he would be prepared to do the same thing again, and he said that the legal advice this time round was exactly the same as it was ten days ago. we were all very interested to see what keir starmer had to say, because there was a bit of a kerfuffle this morning over whether keir starmer out before the starmer had found out before the strikes took place that they were to happen. last time were going to happen. last time he was warned in advance, although rishi sunak stopped short of recalling the house of commons this time. short of recalling the house of commons this time . a labour commons this time. a labour shadow minister, karen smith, speaking to gb news and other broadcasters this morning, said that the leader of the opposition hadn't heard about it, so there was a bit of a question mark over how starmer
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would respond. starmer's response was, as you say, pretty positive. he said that he does fully back rishi sunak on these strikes , but he said that he strikes, but he said that he would like to see that the workings from rishi sunak, if you like, he wants to see the prime minister lay out something on the effectiveness of these strikes. he said that he understands the justification of them and he completely accepts that. he would like to see that. but he would like to see something on the effectiveness. and pertinent question and that is a pertinent question because of course, last time these strikes took place just ten days ago, just a few days later, there was another who the attack on a ship in the red sea. so there are those who are questioning whether whether these whether these strikes are having enough of an impact. and that's something that keir starmer brought to the fore in that speech today. it was interesting, though, to see that he is still fully backing the prime minister because the last time this happened, although keir starmer went fully in rowing behind the pm, there were a number of his more left wing
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back benchers who say that it was wrong for rishi sunak not to recall parliament before the strikes went ahead, putting themselves at odds with their leader. it seems that keir starmer doesn't mind too much about that. if he is going to annoy his backbench rebels , he annoy his backbench rebels, he is prepared to accept the consequences of that. well, olivia , he needs to be seen to olivia, he needs to be seen to distance himself very much from the foreign policy of his predecessor. >> doesn't he? jeremy corbyn i think it was zara sultana, one of the left wing labour mps , who of the left wing labour mps, who was tweeting furiously and also in in the house against this action. was she was it zara ? action. was she was it zara? >> loads of them. >> loads of them. >> loads of them, yeah. >> loads of them, yeah. >> um, yeah. sorry. >> um, yeah. sorry. >> go on. yeah loads of them. but zarah sultana among them. yeah zarah sultana among them. exactly. and i think that's completely he completely right, emily. he really does always need to be seen be distancing himself seen to be distancing himself from corbyn. and from jeremy corbyn. and obviously, over the last few years, gone a long way years, he's gone a long way to doing that. he has flushed out quite a lot of the corbynites in the shadow cabinet, jeremy
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corbyn himself and diane abbott, his, uh, number two really are no longer even labour mps. but within the labour party membership there is still a strong left wing contingent and keir starmer has to show what he believes anyway, that he has to show voters that that left wing contingent does not hold him. uh, don't , doesn't have him sort uh, don't, doesn't have him sort of wrapped around their little finger. he wants to show that he is his own man, and he is willing to back this sort of foreign policy decision . uh, foreign policy decision. uh, yeah. olivia while we've got you, may i ask you about the parliamentary defeat? >> the government had yesterday? last night in the house of lords, the rwanda . bill lords, the rwanda. bill >> yeah, absolutely . so it was >> yeah, absolutely. so it was an interesting night for the government. it was a bit of a mixed bag. there was the defeat of the rwanda bill the house of the rwanda bill in the house of the rwanda bill in the house of which is does bode of lords, which is does bode very badly the very badly for the prime minister. motion uh, minister. the motion on uh, essentially said that the lords would not ratify the treaty, and that thought be the first that is thought to be the first time history that the lords
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time in history that the lords have voted to not ratify this government . we were we government treaty. we were we did see it coming . lord did see it coming. lord goldsmith, who's a former labour attorney general, said last week that he was going to set out some measures that the government he wanted to he wanted to sort of test the government. he set out ten tests that wanted government to that he wanted the government to sign up to before the lords agreed to ratify that treaty . agreed to ratify that treaty. just to get into the nitty gritty of it quickly, that treaty rwanda a safe treaty declared rwanda a safe country to send illegal migrants to, the lords say that it doesn't actually prove that rwanda is a safe country and it wants the government to sign up to a promise to, for example, bolster up the rwandan immigration system. the government can overturn any amendments that are made in the lords, and it can strongarm this legislation through parliament. but a it won't be a very good look for the government if it has to, if it has to resort to that sort of measure, it will make the government look pretty weak. , perhaps more
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weak. and b, perhaps more importantly, going to take importantly, it's going to take an awfully long time . the house an awfully long time. the house of lords have set out a timetable for this, saying that if by the 12th of march they're happy with the situation, then they ratify it then, but they might ratify it then, but only then. and rishi sunak, of course, that would course, has said that he would like planes taking off to like to see planes taking off to rwanda, the spring. this rwanda, buying the spring. this timeline looking tighter and timeline is looking tighter and tighter , which the prime tighter, which the prime minister knows only too well . minister knows only too well. >> the delaying tactics. we know those well, yeah. >> top stuff olivia utley in westminster . >> top stuff olivia utley in westminster. thank you so much. let's go now to sticking with the houthi strikes . uh, defence the houthi strikes. uh, defence analyst and former british army officer, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford . good afternoon stuart crawford. good afternoon sir. um let's let's break it down in simplistic terms, shall we? how how, uh, what is the risk of this escalation into a much larger war and potentially, uh, maybe even world war iii? >> uh, good afternoon . um, well, >> uh, good afternoon. um, well, i think the potential for, uh, this to lead to world war iii is
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pretty low at the moment, to be honest. uh, what has happened , honest. uh, what has happened, as you've rightly reported, is that the houthis are, uh , that the houthis are, uh, adamant or determined , if you adamant or determined, if you like, continue their , uh, like, continue their, uh, attempted strikes on international shipping in the red sea and that the us and the uk, plus others are pretty determined to make them stop. and that's where we are at the moment. it's not exactly an impasse because, uh, the first time the houthis relatively speaking, got a bit of a slap on the wrist, uh, this time they probably got a slap around the shoulders or around the neck . shoulders or around the neck. and if they continue with their intransigence, knows intransigence, who knows what's going happen next? but going to happen next? but i think, um, another aspect that we must be aware of is that there is evidence that we are now deploying special forces to intervene , kept the transfer of intervene, kept the transfer of arms from iran to the rebels , arms from iran to the rebels, and that's probably ongoing. we'll learn more about that as it develops . we'll learn more about that as it develops. um, we'll learn more about that as it develops . um, interesting. it develops. um, interesting. >> now, the aim is to deter and degrade the houthi rebels are
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these strikes enough to achieve that ? well clearly not yet. that? well clearly not yet. >> um, but i would think that the strikes will, um , uh , be the strikes will, um, uh, be upgraded if you like. we will up the ante and they'll become more and more , uh, powerful until and more, uh, powerful until such times as we hope the houthis will desist and realise that they're on a hiding to nothing. and do we have enough? because they'll be quite sorry. >> stuart. do we have enough capability for all that ? capability for all that? >> um. well, the americans do , >> um. well, the americans do, and, uh. and we have as well. we're very lucky in having our. what i call our permanent aircraft carrier in cyprus, which i know is controversial, but that's, um , saves us having but that's, um, saves us having to send one of our two new aircraft carriers there at the moment. and i think we've got the weaponry and the troops or the weaponry and the troops or the military forces in place at the military forces in place at the moment for what is called for. plus, of course, we have the naval assets in the red sea
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and, and what they're doing to down some of the missile attacks against israel and against shipping . shipping. >> stuart. uh, penny mordaunt yesterday was saying that we needed to increase our defence spending . i think over the past spending. i think over the past decade at least, we've been rapidly falling down. the ranks in terms of spending compared to gdp. would you back calls for grant shapps to increase spending at the next review ? spending at the next review? >> oh, very much so . i think >> oh, very much so. i think it's absolutely essential if we're going to be able to continue our role as a global power, if that's what we want to do . and also as the usa is most do. and also as the usa is most dependable and regular ally, and the nato sort of benchmark for, uh, defence spending is 2% of gdp. we're slightly over that at the moment. over the past few years, 2.1, 2.2 thereabouts, i think we really need to go to 3% of gdp to begin to restore the armed forces that we were able to feel 20 years ago. and it's
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interesting that poland, for example, is spending 4.5% of its gdp on defence matters because it's faced with a revanchist russia, if you like. so absolutely . and penny mordaunt, absolutely. and penny mordaunt, you know, who has a naval background, will know what's required . required. >> now there is a fear. just finally, stuart, there is a fear that sometimes we may bite off more than we can chew when it comes to interventions in this region, is there a risk there is. >> i mean, absolutely there is. i mean, i think that i've said before, i think to you, emily, actually, that, you know, the houthis and the hezbollah and hamas and the axis of resistance are all the symptoms of what's going on and what's going wrong in the middle east. but of course, the causes iran. and at some point iran has to be confronted. but that is a major undertaking which most people would see as an absolute last resort. and we're certainly not in a position to do that at the moment. >> well, thank you very much
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indeed for your time. former british army officer, lieutenant indeed for your time. former british lstuarthicer, lieutenant indeed for your time. former british lstuart crawford jtenant indeed for your time. former british lstuart crawford ,:enant indeed for your time. former british lstuart crawford , always colonel stuart crawford, always good to speak to you. >> and stuart alluded alluded to it mean, thank goodness it there. i mean, thank goodness we by our side. i we have the us by our side. i know going to be know that's not going to be a popular amongst some popular statement amongst some viewers, the viewers, but they are the biggest, the strongest superpower in the and we superpower in the world. and we are their number uh, ally. are their number one, uh, ally. so, you know, for now, literal wingman. so yes. >> and that's, uh, segways us on to topic. going to our next topic. we're going to our next topic. we're going to be speaking to anthony scaramucci. >> yes, donald trump's former white house director of communications in 2017. he only lasted ten days. and he was dramatic sacked for, uh, what supporters say was running his mouth . he had some unkind words mouth. he had some unkind words to say about steve bannon, who was a trump ally at the time. but we're going to speak to him about you should ask him about that. >> does he just have a grudge aboutis >> does he just have a grudge about is he just doesn't want about is he just he doesn't want he to back biden over he wants to back biden over donald for white house donald trump for the white house which is quite something. >> scaramucci at the time, >> and scaramucci at the time, he had long list of sort of he had a long list of sort of plaudits for donald trump, he had a long list of sort of plaudithe)r donald trump, he had a long list of sort of plaudithe lovedald trump, he had a long list of sort of plaudithe loved him'rump, he had a long list of sort of plaudithe loved him and 3, was saying he loved him and he was
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loyal he'd never leave his loyal when he'd never leave his side. he's going here, side. so he's going to be here, live with us, uh, just after 2:00. going all 2:00. and i'm going to put all those quotes ask him, those quotes to him and ask him, the loyalty? the mooch, where's your loyalty? what happened? >> happened? >> yeah. what happened? well you're watching good afternoon britain gb news. go britain on gb news. don't go anywhere .
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you're with ben and emily on good afternoon britain now rishi sunak rwanda plans suffered its first defeat in the house of lords yesterday, when peers voted by 214 to 171. not to ratify the agreement. >> yes . so the unelected chamber >> yes. so the unelected chamber has been accused of acting against the will of the people, with some accusing peers of purposefully torpedoing the prime minister's rwanda plan . so prime minister's rwanda plan. so this afternoon, we're going to have the debate. we're asking, is it time to abolish the house of lords to debate this now we're joined by two perfect people, conservative peer lord shaun bailey and the leader of ukip, neil hamilton. >> sean, let's start with you first, neil wants you out a job. what do you say to that? i think neil miss people. miss understand what the job of the lords if you look at the lords is. if you look at the history this country, the history of this country, the lords is to help make this country the country take small steps in the correct rather than correct direction rather than big way or the other. correct direction rather than big it's way or the other. correct direction rather than big it's interesting. r the other. and it's interesting. >> people always want to, um , do >> people always want to, um, do something the lords when something about the lords when it result. it doesn't give them the result. >> want the lords is part
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>> they want the lords is part of the political process. >> parliament regularly not >> parliament has regularly not given i want. given me the result i want. i always want conservative always want a conservative government. don't always get one. >> so i think actually people need understand what went on. need to understand what went on. >> yesterday lords, >> and yesterday in the lords, although the government lost what seen is a what people would have seen is a very long debate that very detailed long debate that really looked at the issues and didn't just fly off the handle. people looked at the debate. i wish the vote had gone a different but it was very different way, but it was a very high quality, is it not? >> not the case, though? >> is it not the case, though? sean and i hear but is it sean and i hear you, but is it not the that of the not the case that some of the peers in house of lords peers in the house of lords are attempting the rwanda attempting to delay the rwanda plan for as long as possible, until there's a general election ? >> undoubtedly, that's their plan. but you could say the same. >> that's not part of the democratic process, though, is it, well, it is because it, sean? well, it is because undoubtedly you could say the same about labour mps. same about many labour mps. >> being, whatever , >> the point being, whatever, wherever on this, the wherever you sit on this, the lords is there refine the lords is there to refine the lords. is there to scrutinise. and what we done as and that's what we have done as a body time and memorial . a body for time and memorial. and a lot of british law is copied around the world and import . a part of that process
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import. a part of that process is the lords scrutinising and looking and wonder if looking at it. and i wonder if people would be saying such as richard, let's get rid of the lords. if it's given them the result they want. not about result they want. it's not about giving they giving people a result they want, it's about making sure that laws and look that we refine our laws and look at laws properly. they at our laws properly. so they actually at our laws properly. so they act| neil at our laws properly. so they act|neil hamilton is case >> neil hamilton this is a case of just centralised, power of just more centralised, power handed people , handed to unelected, um, people, isn't it? but that's partly why we voted to leave the eu because none of are elected. we none of them are elected. we wanted to control our laws, wanted to control our own laws, our own destiny. yet these 700 plus sean , by plus people, including sean, by the way, in the house of lords, nobody voted them. and nobody voted for them. and they're going up against they're now going up against a prime minister the prime minister that the electorate vote for . and electorate didn't vote for. and a so isn't it now a chancellor. so isn't it now the time to start seriously thinking about abolishing the house of lords? well the house of lords is a constitutional absurdity in the 21st century, and whatever legitimacy it might have had in the 19th century is completely alien to the modern world. >> and yes, british law may well be copied around the world, but
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no other country in the world has copied the house of lords as part of his legislative structures . yeah, there may be structures. yeah, there may be high debate from the high quality debate from the house of lords, but that isn't really what matters. what matters democracy, matters is democracy, legitimacy. that an legitimacy. we know that an overwhelming majority of the british want to see much british people want to see much stricter control of migration , stricter control of migration, and 89% of the people think that the house of lords should be abolished . yes, there is a abolished. yes, there is a debate to be had about what's going it. there are going to replace it. there are plenty of alternatives. could plenty of alternatives. we could have which was have a second chamber which was more of the different more reflective of the different regions the united kingdom. regions of the united kingdom. we could have a house which is elected a different time from the house of commons, and there are lots of ways in which we could enhance democracy in this country, rather than detract from it, which we got at the minute, because look at the people are in the house of people who are in the house of lords, house of cronies, lords, this house of cronies, party donors , uh, party hacks, party donors, uh, bishops and who is more irrelevant in modern britain than bishops in the church of
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england? the money. >> you're a small c conservative, are you not? and you seem very radical in your approach to our, uh, constitutional frameworks. ah, house of lords. has it not overrule served us quite well . overrule served us quite well. did you change your views since the brexit debate ? the brexit debate? >> well, of course, the house of lords would have frustrated brexit. it's full of basic people of the lib dem mindset andifs people of the lib dem mindset and it's the brexit debate all over again, isn't it, alex carlile, a former liberal mp whom i served with in the house of commons for 14 years, said that the purpose of the house of lords is to protect democracy from itself. now that's the overweening arrogance of the political that regards the political class that regards the electorate as the dirty, unwashed and ignorant rednecks. >> i don't agree with that need to be kept under control. >> that's not the people who know best how they should be governed and how people should live lives . live their lives. >> in the house of >> are those in the house of lords now you no, neil,
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lords now you know? no, neil, i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> shaun's response to that. >> shaun's response to that. >> i'm sorry neil, neil, neil as well. >> i know it has a commons full of them, but at least they are dead duds and deadbeats. we can kick them out in a democratic vote we to. can't do vote if we want to. you can't do that to members of the house. isn't it an absurdity that you're for life? isn't it an absurdity that you goodness for life? isn't it an absurdity that you goodness me.:or life? >> goodness me. >> goodness me. >> legislating today. >> legislating on fire today. >> legislating on fire today. >> back that look. >> what what what what neil is doneis >> what what what what neil is done is that typical thing of putting people's putting words in people's mouths. if person said mouths. if one person has said that believes that, that's that and believes that, that's that's their their view, that certainly isn't that. my experience , they're experience of peers, they're very thoughtful what they experience of peers, they're venand ughtful what they experience of peers, they're venand of htful what they experience of peers, they're venand of course, what they experience of peers, they're venand of course, whea they do. and of course, there's a high level expertise in there high level of expertise in there as and people very as well. and people are very mindful fact that they mindful of the fact that they have read present have to read present the country. why for country. that's why for instance, constitutionally, if it comes, push comes to shove, the house of commons can overrule the house of lords. it's why the bishops tend not to vote against the government. they'll vote in the first round to register the their opinion. the registered their the registered opinion of their congregation, is congregation, which actually is a large group of a very large group of individuals , you bigger individuals, you know, bigger than constituencies, as it
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than most constituencies, as it were. than one were. so maybe bigger than one mp. being , the idea mp. the point being, the idea that a group people who that it's a group of people who have what they're doing have no idea what they're doing and just playing party and they're just playing party politics, so far politics, is actually so far from it's from the truth. it's unbelievable . again, i want to unbelievable. again, i want to go the fact that the go back to the fact that the house lords sees itself as house of lords sees itself as a place that is to scrutinise and refine and test laws and refine laws and test laws and that's what's going on. i sat in that's what's going on. i sat in that was that debate yesterday and it was a very high quality debate, and i voted for the i and i voted for the government, but even i sat there and do have and thought, well, they do have some government some points the government has to points. and to answer those points. and in the of lords we no the house of lords we have no limit, no time limit on debates, which because means which is good because it means we through the we get all the way through the detail it's always delivered we get all the way through the detthe it's always delivered we get all the way through the detthe for it's always delivered we get all the way through the detthe for the always delivered we get all the way through the detthe for the bestys delivered we get all the way through the detthe for the best of delivered we get all the way through the detthe for the best of the vered for the for the best of the country. it can we meet country. sean is it can we meet you then can can we say, you halfway then can can we say, you halfway then can can we say, you the 784 peers you know, the 784 peers currently sitting in the house of lords, which, by the way, they all in at once, they don't all fit in at once, do they? they don't all fit in at once, do what when they're all >> what happens when they're all in day? in for the day? >> there's two things i'd say about that. obviously, very about that. obviously, i'm very new my on that would new and my opinion on that would be, you the of be, look, you have the house of lords effectively time lords is effectively a part time in in different way to an in a in a different way to an mp. and you have people who are
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expert a few, very expert in, in a very few, very expert in, in a very few, very expert in, in a very few, very expert in a few areas. so you tend to congregate around the bits your bits of legislation where your expertise works. that's expertise really works. that's the thing. other thing the first thing. the other thing as well, those 700 peers, they don't get paid unless they turn up. you've got of people up. so you've got lots of people who've never get turned up and they cost the country they don't cost the country anything. peers anything. but you have peers who've turned up how many don't turn get turn up when you're going to get 300 for tapping 300 odd quid just for tapping your on the reader? your pass on the reader? >> people that can't be >> is there people that can't be bothered? >> is there people that can't be bot that's a childish that's >> that's such a childish that's such childish disingenuous >> that's such a childish that's such people ish disingenuous >> that's such a childish that's such people spend disingenuous >> that's such a childish that's such people spend hours genuous way. people spend hours and hours going through hours and hours going through the they the paperwork, making sure they know talking about know what they're talking about and doing doing and not they're doing, doing for the of the country. many of the ministers in the house of lords don't get paid, but they do a full ministerial job. so you reducing it just tapping in reducing it just to tapping in for quid? that's for a few hundred quid? that's not that not fair, isn't right. that isn't what goes on. people do the that's that's view, >> that's that's your view, neil. says clearly neil. sean says very clearly that the peers in the house of lords take their duty very, very seriously to scrutinise legislation to make sure it is the best it can be. and workable for the british public. >> yes, of course, there are a
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lot of good men and women in the house of lords. >> many of them are my friends. old friends. and i said in the house commons with the house of commons with but the point end of the day, point is, at the end of the day, who actually going to decide who is actually going to decide what this what the government of this country unelected country does? is it unelected peers in the house of lords, or is a government elected by the people is fulfilling people that is fulfilling a mandate which overwhelmingly opinion polls tell us is what the people want to see happen with controls on migration. and i'm no great advocate for the rwanda bill by the way. i think it's a distraction from the real issue of uncontrolled mass immigration. but i still come back to this point. by the way, ihave back to this point. by the way, i have no real complaint about the vote yesterday, which was merely a 21 sitting merely to introduce a 21 sitting day delay in the treaty being ratified. so that's not no big deal ratified. so that's not no big deal. but but if the bill will ultimately be thrown out by the house of lords, that would be a different matter altogether. and that would be perfectly possible. a few other people entitled fewer than half of the members of the house of the
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house of lords voted yesterday. so you know, that's another point has a point at issue here. it has a commons neil hamilton. >> we'll have to stop you there unfortunately. wrap up. unfortunately. and wrap this up. thank for your time. a thank you for your time. a fascinating lord fascinating debate lord sean bailey uh, conservative peer. and of course the leader of ukip, hamilton. uh, coming ukip, neil hamilton. uh, coming up, to get stuck up, we are going to get stuck into. more ways than one, into. in more ways than one, this swallower balloon to this swallower stone balloon to help weight . this has help you lose weight. this has caused lot of controversy caused a lot of controversy on the emails. for the comments i've support i've said some of you support me. think being me. some of you think i'm being a nasty. a little bit nasty. >> promise not a fat >> i promise i'm not a fat shamer. maybe i'm not. shamer. yeah, maybe i'm not. we'll discussing that. would we'll be discussing that. would you these? let us you swallow one of these? let us know with our panel after your headunes know with our panel after your headlines honour. headlines with tati. honour. >> emily, thank you and good afternoon. your top stories from the gb news room. the prime minister says the uk will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks in the red sea. rishi sunak described attacks on commercial ships by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unacceptable. it comes after
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tonight, gb news. the people's channel, britain's news channel . channel, britain's news channel. it's coming up to 140 in the afternoon and we just had a debate about the house of lords , debate about the house of lords, whether it should be abolished, whether it should be abolished, whether it's, uh, you know, archaic house of lords, archaic inaya. >> do you need nearly 800 peers to scrutinise legislation? yes. >> well, someone has written in to say, you say , could you to say, you say, could you please ask why it needs 800 lords to scrutinise bills? wouldn't 100 be sufficient or preferably zero? that was from andy. he's not best pleased with the house of lords. uh, peter says i'm strongly for the house. i think the house of lords should only have hereditary peers in it, not these ideological lot. we have at present. you know what? i am quite sympathetic to that view, because , and i may be wrong, because, and i may be wrong, perhaps the hereditary peers have genuine sense of duty, have a genuine sense of duty, and they will scrutinise the bill in a more in—depth pendant way, rather than the politicos we have in there. i don't know,
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i'm not sure that the offspring of you know, uh, of lord and lady, they i don't know. >> no, no , no, they probably >> no, no, no, they probably just just don't care. john uh, had a good email. good afternoon to john. he said, i wish to you, john. he said, i wish i could and put could walk up the stairs and put my clock card in and get £300 a day and a subsidised canteen and a bar. um, yeah. me too. a wine bar. um, yeah. me too. well, it's never too late to become a lord as someone's written in here it's the written in here says it's the most care home in the land. >> so never too late , never too >> so never too late, never too late. you could have that £300 card. >> i mean , hs2 for fat shaming. >> i mean, hs2 for fat shaming. well, it wasn't my opinion. >> it was, uh, you know, someone wrote that and anthony wrote in saying that and anthony says, i believe that the house of be of lords should be proportionally proportional . proportionally proportional. representatively elected , but representatively elected, but the house of commons should remain a first past the post system. so there you go. there's some constructive reform ideas because doubt the whole thing some constructive reform ideas be going doubt the whole thing some constructive reform ideas be going to ioubt the whole thing some constructive reform ideas be going to be )t the whole thing some constructive reform ideas begoing to be abolished. e thing is going to be abolished. >> emails coming in >> keep those emails coming in on as well. that on fat shaming as well. that new, device where new, uh, that new device where you swallow in it basically expands stomach. it's expands in your stomach. it's like a gastric is it? so like a gastric band. is it? so it eating. i say, just
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it stops you eating. i say, just go to the gym. had lots of go to the gym. we've had lots of nasty i'm nasty emails saying that i'm bigoted emails bigoted and fat shaming emails because you were a bit fat shaming said you shaming. no, someone said you were me as well. someone were rude to me as well. someone did say but was one did say that, but that was one out hundreds. oh, just offend out of hundreds. oh, just offend you now. not you're you now. that's not true. you're very lovely. let's move you now. that's not true. you're ven the ely. let's move you now. that's not true. you're venthe man let's move you now. that's not true. you're venthe man responsible. move you now. that's not true. you're venthe man responsible for)ve on. the man responsible for stabbing people in stabbing three people in nottingham has had nottingham last june has had a plea manslaughter, accepted plea of manslaughter, accepted on diminished . on the basis of diminished. diminished responsibility? >> weber and grace >> yes, barnaby weber and grace o'malley kumar, who were both 19 years alongside school years old alongside school caretaker ian coates, do , died caretaker ian coates, do, died after being attacked by waldo kalakani . kalakani. >> the plea accepted on the >> the plea was accepted on the bafis >> the plea was accepted on the basis diminished basis of diminished responsibility due to mr kulkarni's, quote, serious mental illness. we can get the latest with our reporter, will hollis, nottingham crown hollis, outside nottingham crown court will, what's the latest? what's happened . well, those what's happened. well, those attacks that rocked the nation back on the june the 13th last year have been described as uncompromisingly brutal. >> but today here at nottingham
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crown court, the prosecution accepted those pleas under the grounds of diminished responsibility. three for manslaughter for the killings of barnaby webber. grace o'malley kumar and caretaker ian coates, as well as three for attempted murder for three pedestrians that were ran down in the city centre as part of the same spate of attacks. we say diminished responsibility because waldo kalakani, who also goes by the name of adam mendes as is diagnosed as having paranoid schizophrenia , and in the hours schizophrenia, and in the hours before those attacks , he made before those attacks, he made phone calls to his brother in which he said that he was having 24 over seven voices in his head . and now the crown say that that night he went out into the streets of nottingham with the intent to kill with a rucksack full of weapons . and it was full of weapons. and it was a double edged fighting knife that he used to repeatedly stab his victims. we've been hearing in
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court today some of those exceptionally distressing details of the attacks, but we've also heard of bravery , we've also heard of bravery, particularly on the part of young grace o'malley kumar, who tried to defend her friend who who had just been attacked by kalakani . now there was the kalakani. now there was the family members of all of the victims here in court today and understandably , some of those understandably, some of those distressing details were incredibly difficult to hear. we heard sobs and at some points crying from members of the family , and at one point they family, and at one point they had to stop the proceedings so that they could leave . this is that they could leave. this is still a hearing that is ongoing. it has now become a sentencing heanng it has now become a sentencing hearing , and later this week we hearing, and later this week we can expect to hear exactly what will become of aldo kalakani . will become of aldo kalakani. thanks very much. >> will hollis nottingham crown court, um, let's get stuck into some of the biggest stories of the day now, shall we? we're joined by former editor of the
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sunday express and senior advisor to pagefield, martin townsend, and the former labour adviser, matthew laser. matthew, we heard from rishi sunak in the commons earlier. he gave that statement that labour will clambering the commons clambering for to the commons about the houthis strikes in yemen night. first all, yemen last night. first of all, can just clear up whether can we just clear up whether labour were briefed or not? they say weren't the tories say say they weren't the tories say they were. who was telling the truth? i think think, you truth? well i think i think, you know, were briefed truth? well i think i think, you kn not. were briefed or not. >> so or not. » so or not. >> so would say that, >> so i mean, i would say that, wouldn't i? >> but i think it's clear, it seems that they didn't brief the labour the usual way, labour side in the usual way, which is unfortunate, which i think is unfortunate, but, we but, you know, we are where we are, should they, i said are, but should they, i said earlier, should they give a running commentary to that. >> it's private running commentary. >> it's not in public. >> you know, it's not in public. it's know, i think it's not, you know, but i think it important the it is important that the opposition think opposition involved, and i think that labour that when labour was in government, the same. so government, he did the same. so i a it's a courtesy i think it's a it's a courtesy and of the democratic and part of the democratic process, particularly because understandably, you can't keep a running going. before action this. >> uh, before action like this. well, no. >> is it odd? perhaps i'm >> is it a bit odd? perhaps i'm being almost why being naive here. almost why would smith, who doing would karen smith, who was doing
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the morning, the media rounds this morning, why raise this and not why would she raise this and not keir starmer raised this in the house. yeah, i think well i think it was last night think it was clear last night the office made it clear the kids office made it clear that they haven't that they, they, they haven't they last night. they weren't briefed last night. >> i think probably didn't >> i think he probably didn't want raise it in house, want to raise it in the house, because want to make because he doesn't want to make it him. it all about him. >> doesn't make >> he doesn't want to make it about was he about what he was saying. he wants to concentrate on. it'd be a naff. a bit naff. >> would. it would be once >> it would. it would be once concentrate our concentrate on thanking our forces and forces for their action and looking issue. looking at the wider issue. >> but i think the government needs to be careful it needs to be careful that it keeps the opposition in the loop, which is kind of how it should work. >> power, martin. should work. >> yeah, power, martin. should work. >> yeah, got)ower, martin. should work. >> yeah, got some martin. should work. >> yeah, got some you tin. >> yeah, i've got some you unfortunate. i'd love able unfortunate. i'd love to be able to oh, we argue about, to argue. oh, we argue about, you how much i love to be you know, how much i love to be able matthew. but, able to argue with matthew. but, yeah, and the yeah, i think, uh, and over the years, seen happen years, we've seen this happen time again. know, if time and again. you know, if there's, there's something there's, if there's something that's a huge national significance um, you significance like that, um, you know, involving defence, involving sort of involving you know, our sort of forces, should involving you know, our sort of forces, be should involving you know, our sort of forces, be what should involving you know, our sort of forces, be what opposition always be what the opposition party, whoever happens to be, party, whoever it happens to be, should always be briefed privately brought up to privately and, and brought up to date should be. date the way it should be. >> it was nice to see how >> it was quite nice to see how both agreeable they
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>> it was quite nice to see how both it agreeable they >> it was quite nice to see how both it was agreeable they >> it was quite nice to see how both it was {nice able they >> it was quite nice to see how both it was {nice change,y were. it was made a nice change, but talking about the red sea, we've steamed in there on the coattails of the united states with it's becoming apparent, a very depleted armed forces. we've got no sailors . we've got we've got no sailors. we've got no jets for our two aircraft carriers, which are languishing in portsmouth . is there a case in portsmouth. is there a case now for increased defence spending and should we really be steaming into conflicts like the red sea when we are actually so depleted ? depleted? >> well, i think that the depletion of our forces is a very serious issue. >> i think we're to okay do what we're in the red sea, we're doing in the red sea, partly because of the depletion of forces. only done of our forces. we've only done the strikes. the the two sets of strikes. the americans done whole americans have done a whole series . series. >> think sort of eight >> i think it's sort of eight without us. >> that shows actually without us. >> know, shows actually without us. >> know, we ws actually that, you know, we can add a little, but we can't add as much as perhaps we should do. >> look, we've got we are >> and look, we've got we are reaching crunch point across reaching a crunch point across europe. across europe. governments across europe of all political stripes are realise it's are having to realise that it's time sadly, is time, you know, that, sadly, is a very unstable world out there and maybe what we dreamed and that maybe what we dreamed of of the cold war, of at the end of the cold war, where could be put at
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where defence could be put at the back of the queue as it were, when the are were, for when the checks are being handed out, is not going to you've seen to happen. so you've seen conscription introduced in sweden? the social sweden? um, uh, under the social democrats when they were in power. and now coming >> and it's now just coming into force, etc. really? >> do you understand >> um, martin, do you understand concerns, perhaps concerns, though, that perhaps we are biting off more than we can chew with all this? or is it a necessary retaliate attack and there isn't any other option ? there isn't any other option? well, i think we should. >> yeah, i do, i do think it's a necessary retaliatory attack, i don't think, and i don't think we steamed in, by the way. i think it's it was done. it's always done with a huge amount of measured. it's of thought measured. it's measured. the, on the measured. um, on the, on the subject more money for our subject of more money for our armed forces, i would make the point that whenever i see stories saying we've bought the wrong aircraft carrier , it wrong aircraft carrier, it doesn't this or we've got doesn't do this or we've got guns that don't work, would guns that don't work, i would say, could increase the say, yeah, we could increase the defence spending, but let's, for heaven's sake , make sure that in heaven's sake, make sure that in future we're buying the right equipment, the right things that are for the strategy are required for the strategy we're , and also make we're pursuing, and also make sure not they're
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sure that they're not they're not going unfit for not going to be unfit for purpose time and again, purpose because time and again, over the years, we've seen billions pounds wasted billions of pounds being wasted on not on projects that are just not quite right or take forever . to quite right or take forever. to by the time they're actually. and that's why we get they go out of date. >> is it difficult to know, though, what capabilities though, what exact capabilities we're once these we're going to need once these things are always bought and purchased? so much purchased? it's not so much renee incompetence, often incompetence, renee incompetence, often incc difficult :e, renee incompetence, often incc difficult to buy guns that not difficult to buy guns that won't aircraft won't jam that, to buy aircraft carriers are actually going carriers that are actually going to know, and make to have to, you know, and make sure you've actually got jets to put them. put on them. >> there are many of these >> there are so many of these the i think is, has been the mod i think is, is has been you guilty you know, systematically guilty of , of these of getting the of, of these kind of getting the basics , getting the basics basics, getting the basics wrong. and that's been very hard for either party to around. for either party to turn around. >> tried to around >> labour tried to turn around defence it defence procurement to make it more efficient. defence procurement to make it mo the ficient. defence procurement to make it mo the tories. defence procurement to make it mo the tories have done the >> the tories have done the same, never mind the blob in the rest of the civil service. it's a big old, um, it's a big old institution around the institution to turn around the queen elizabeth aircraft carrier in 35 in portsmouth holds up to 35 f—355, in portsmouth holds up to 35 f—35s, apparently we've only got eight there, and the rest are
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good. >> at least a dozen are on a training exercise. they're booked. training exercise. they're booked . they're pre—booked, like booked. they're pre—booked, like a meeting room at work. it's pre—booked. can't them, pre—booked. you can't use them, which when there's a which is absurd when there's a real life conflict on. yeah. >> labour commissioned the aircraft it was in government. >> um, they were one of the last things that gordon brown signed off. , i mean, look, off. um, but yeah, i mean, look, we a defence if we we can't have a defence if we don't have enough people in it. we've got the smallest armed forces in terms of personnel since napoleonic but since the napoleonic war, but that always that claim is always made. >> honestly, i look >> well, yeah, honestly, i look iused >> well, yeah, honestly, i look i used to edit a newspaper every single year. they the military, of course they moan. they of course they do moan. they hadnt of course they do moan. they hadn't people right . hadn't got enough people right. and maybe it's true and maybe it isn't. but it, it's such a kind of time, you know, of every time, you know, something like this happens. we haven't got enough. navy's got a particular because i think particular issue because i think what navy does have, what the navy does have, everything about airstrikes everything was about airstrikes in the 2010s, in the noughties and the 2010s, when was about when everything was about airstrikes, kind of airstrikes, and we kind of forgot navy bit. forgot about the navy a bit. >> and now obviously everything's about keeping the shipping we've shipping lanes open. so we've renumbered shipping lanes open. so we've renumbe are we shipping lanes open. so we've renumbeare we not capable shipping lanes open. so we've renumbe are we not capable of >> why are we not capable of thinking about more than one thing? it does thing? exactly. time. it does seem we move
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seem like that. should we move on to something? perhaps a lighter um, some lighter or heavier? um, in some respects heavier by respects it's a bit heavier by the inbox. yes. so the first two nhs patients to receive a new type of weight loss pill have been in somerset. this been treated in somerset. this is cunous. been treated in somerset. this is curious . uh, the is quite curious. uh, the patients given capsule patients were given a capsule that contains a gastric balloon that contains a gastric balloon thatis that contains a gastric balloon that is then filled with water. and essentially, this makes people feel fuller for longer so that they, uh , eat less. that they, uh, eat less. >> stop eating. yeah. so my problem with this isn't i'm going to address all these emails been flooding emails that have been flooding in. i haven't got a problem with people you're people who are ill. you're taking you're taking taking steroids or you're taking medication or you've got a particular gland problem that causes to gain weight . i causes you to gain weight. i have with you. my only have no issue with you. my only point my only point was that point was my only point was that it's great to educate yourself about nutrition and going to the gym, because actually, that's a very fun and wholesome process. people. i don't think. i don't think they are clued up. matthew do you think generally do you think people generally might for example, for example, people down white people chew and scoff down white pasta and have a pasta salad and think that's a nutritious meal just covered in mayonnaise?
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>> absolutely . >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah. do you know what i mean? do you know? >> i think i think you're >> no, i think i think you're right. i mean, i think it's a certain extent in that people are not as informed, are not always as informed, and many think about many people need to think about the choice they're making. the choice that they're making. i'm nhs doing this, i'm very pro the nhs doing this, partly going to partly because it's going to save long save the nhs money in the long run, think it's actually run, and i think it's actually good on the nhs in somerset because it's been knocking good on the nhs in somerset becaus> that's that's;urgery. hour or something. >> that's that's;urgtword >> that's it. that's the word i was for. it's less was looking for. it's less invasive. therefore i think invasive. so therefore i think you the kind of you do it earlier in the kind of weight procedure. so weight gaining procedure. so that's one of the places nhs that's one of the places the nhs sometimes stumbles isn't it. you know, it's should
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intervene. >> i maybe shouldn't >> i mean, maybe we shouldn't get excited. only two get too excited. only two patients far received patients so far have received this. and course we'll have this. and of course we'll have to it to see it to see monitor it to see if it works the intended works and has the intended results. sometimes results. because sometimes with these couple these things, they last a couple of people back of years and then people go back to ordinary eating to their ordinary eating patterns. people do. patterns. well, as people do. >> the weight back >> and they put the weight back on. yeah. mean, that's on. yeah. i mean, that's absolutely going absolutely what's going to happen. i'm absolutely happen. i'm i'm, i'm absolutely with you know, if you with this that, you know, if you want weight, get want to lose weight, you get your you also your diet on point and you also do you also do do exercise. you also do exercise. it's no use taking a weight then weight loss pill and then sitting on the sofa and watching telly hours, five telly for four hours, five hours. that's not how it works. and i genuinely that that and i genuinely think that that in order to on a for a long from a long terme perspective, for the to actually solve this the nhs to actually solve this obesity, there people that obesity, there are people that have medical weight problems. and that they would and i understand that they would need pills order to to, need these pills in order to to, maybe their weight. and maybe reduce their weight. and i absolutely i'm absolutely sympathise and i'm not them being handed not against them being handed out what i am against is that somehow there are magical miracle cure gaining weight , miracle cure for gaining weight, when actually the real answer is, is actually people themselves taking responsible hs2 exercising . how much does it
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hs2 exercising. how much does it take to do half an hour's walk a day? you know , that's well, day? you know, that's well, there's a lot to be part of. >> there's a lot of people who do genuinely, really struggle with going out and exercise and those really struggle those really, really struggle with food . and so i do worry with food. and so i do worry that sometimes we get a bit judgy. >> absolutely. i think that's i think that's a danger. i think we sometimes we go the other way and you know, and say that, you know, everything's obviously everything's okay. and obviously we're anybody. we're not shaming anybody. there are if are health consequences if you're seriously overweight, we're you there. >> martin townsend matthew there. >> mthank'ownsend matthew there. >> mthank you send matthew there. >> mthank you very matthew there. >> mthank you very much.atthew laza, thank you very much. you'll be back with us in the next up in just next hour. coming up in just a few minutes. at the start of the 2:00, got anthony 2:00, we've got anthony scaramucci, chief, is going to 2:00, we've got anthony sciaimucci, chief, is going to 2:00, we've got anthony scia bigcci, chief, is going to 2:00, we've got anthony scia big interview. if, is going to 2:00, we've got anthony scia big interview. don't oing to 2:00, we've got anthony scia big interview. don't missto be a big interview. don't miss it. looks like things are heating up . heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsor of weather on gb news is . weather on gb news is. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . it's a wet the gb news forecast. it's a wet and windy day there .
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gb news. good afternoon britain. >> it's 2:00 on tuesday 23rd of january. the mooch speaks out donald trump's former white house communications chief sensationally declares he's backing joe biden over his old boss to win the us presidential election. >> anthony scaramucci joins us live for exclusive insight into a possible second trump tum and what it would mean for britain. yeah can't wait for that one. >> uh, houthi rebels strikes last night. the prime minister has updated parliament on the joint uk us strikes on houthi rebels in yemen. he defended the military action, saying he will not hesitate to take further airstrikes in the yemen. we'll break down what he said get break down what he said and get all latest reaction we will indeed. >> and the lords have their say. the chamber been >> and the lords have their say. the of chamber been >> and the lords have their say. the of actingamber been >> and the lords have their say. the of acting against been >> and the lords have their say. the of acting against the een accused of acting against the will the people , as peers will of the people, as peers attempt to torpedo rishi sunak rwanda or least delay rwanda plan, or at least delay
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it. to abolish the it. is it time to abolish the house of lords? well, lots on today . well, lots on today. >> yes, it's been an action packed day, lots of news stories going around and great guests for you as well. we had robert buckland earlier show, buckland earlier in the show, but the one i'm looking forward to no offence, robert to most no offence, robert buckland is anthony scaramucci. to most no offence, robert buckla on, s anthony scaramucci. to most no offence, robert buckla on, s an me1y scaramucci. to most no offence, robert buckla on, s an me why. aramucci. >> go on, tell me why. >> go on, tell me why. >> well he was donald >> coming up. well he was donald trump's communicate chief trump's former communicate chief in he when he was in 2017 when he when he was president there for ten president, he was there for ten days. um, we'll ask him why he got sacked. story is got sacked. but the story is that running his mouth that he was running his mouth in the press used some profane the press and used some profane language donald's. language about some of donald's. >> it be very >> yes, but it will be very interesting out why he , interesting to find out why he, um, thinks that trump is such a liability that he would prefer to see joe biden have a second time. >> so in 2017, mr scaramucci said that he was very loyal to donald trump and he said, i love him. i love the mission that the president has been on since the early days of the campaign. i'm
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going to present those quotes to scaramucci and ask, what's changed and why is he now backing joe biden for the presidency this year? if donald trump is the republican nominee? and importantly , this and also, most importantly, this is british show, of course. is a british show, of course. what it mean for britain? what does it mean for britain? >> yeah, want to know. it >> yeah, i want to know. it seems split. some seems there's a split. some people that it would be people believe that it would be a safer world with donald boris johnson, of course, the daily a safer world with donald boris johnsover)f course, the daily a safer world with donald boris johnsover)f ccweekend he daily a safer world with donald boris johnsover)f ccweekend he dythat mail over the weekend said that we for world peace we need trump for world peace and others think it would be an absolute for absolute disaster, not least for ukraine. so there you go. let's get your headlines with tatiana . get your headlines with tatiana. >> emily. thank you. your top stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister says the uk will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks in the red sea. rishi sunak described attacks on commercial ships by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unacceptable . it comes after unacceptable. it comes after last night's joint strike with the us, which took place after a
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meeting with the president, joe biden . mr sunak says new biden. mr sunak says new sanctions would be announced in the coming days and any further attacks will be deterred. >> seeking >> we are not seeking a confrontation. we urge the houthis and those who enable them to stop these illegal and unacceptable attacks . yes, but unacceptable attacks. yes, but if necessary , we, the united if necessary, we, the united kingdom , will not hesitate to kingdom, will not hesitate to respond again in self—defence . respond again in self—defence. we cannot stand by and allow these attacks to go unchallenged , and inaction is also no a choice . choice. >> the labour leader, sir keir starmer , says his party backs starmer, says his party backs the government in its action. labour said we will judge further action on the houthis on a case by case basis, so let me be clear. >> we back this targeted action to reinforce maritime security in the red sea. the houthi attacks must stop . they are attacks must stop. they are designed to destabilise us. so we must stand united and strong .
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we must stand united and strong. they bring danger to ordinary civilians working hard at sea . civilians working hard at sea. so we must protect them . so we must protect them. >> a mass screening of more than 300,000 police officers, staff and volunteers has led to nine criminal investigations . the criminal investigations. the review, carried out in the wake of sarah everard's murder by a serving officer, uncovered 461 cases in need of assessment . cases in need of assessment. most of the officers were ranked chief inspector or below, but one chief officer was found to need management action in one case, it involved alleged sexual offences, while another was due to claims of drugs offences . to claims of drugs offences. there were also two accusations of fraud . a man who killed three of fraud. a man who killed three people in a spate of attacks in nottingham has had his not guilty plea accepted on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to mental illness. 32 year old osvaldo calican , also known as adam calican, also known as adam mendez, instead pled guilty to manslaughter in november after he killed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley. cooma and school
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caretaker ian coates, in june last year. he also admitted to trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks . rishi sunak says the uk attacks. rishi sunak says the uk will work with belgium to combat people smuggling gangs, as he welcomed his counterpart to downing street today. alex de croo praised britain as a good neighbour, with the two leaders pledging to tackle illegal migration with increased cooperation . the belgian leader cooperation. the belgian leader said he looked forward to working with the uk in what he described as a of a kind described as a first of a kind law enforcement partnership . law enforcement partnership. another storm sweeping across britain, bringing fresh disruption for commuters. just a day after storm isha, the met office says storm jocelyn will bnng office says storm jocelyn will bring strong winds with amber and yellow alerts issued for much of the country and yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern parts of scotland . and eastern parts of scotland. transpennine express is among several train operators warning of disruption on it's urging passengers to avoid travelling
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between england and scotland from 3:00 this afternoon . now from 3:00 this afternoon. now the so—called bernheimer phenomenon is dominating this year's oscars with an atomic bomb epic up against a film about a doll in the battle for best picture. the nominations for the 96th academy award include 13 nods for oppenheimer by british director christopher nolan , with cillian murphy up nolan, with cillian murphy up for best actor against bradley cooper for maestro. his co—star carey mulligan was also nominated for her performance in the leonard burns biopic. barbie features strongly in other categories, too, though there was an upset with margot robbie missing out on a gong for best actress . and donald trump says actress. and donald trump says he expects his last remaining republican opponent to drop out after today's new hampshire primary polls point to a likely victory for the former president, but nikki haley's exit is not guaranteed. the
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affluent northeast state has a large number of independent voters, and the former un ambassador has gained support over recent months . though the over recent months. though the top stories on gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to ben and . emily now back to ben and. emily >> welcome back. it's 207. you're with ben and emily on good afternoon britain . i forgot good afternoon britain. i forgot the name of the show. there you are indeed. >> good afternoon britain. fill it in. someone emailed me saying good morning. good good morning. it's good afternoon. good morning. it's good aftehere,|. do the >> here, i'll do it all the time. don't worry. now let's turn our attention stateside because, is set turn our attention stateside be go ise, is set turn our attention stateside be goise, to is set turn our attention stateside be goise, to head is set turn our attention stateside be goise, to head with is set turn our attention stateside be goise, to head with hisis set turn our attention stateside be goise, to head with his lastt to go head to head with his last remaining opponent, to go head to head with his last remai haley, opponent, to go head to head with his last remai haley, in opponent, to go head to head with his last remai haley, in new opponent, to go head to head with his last remai haley, in new hampshire.. nikki haley, in new hampshire. it comes as florida governor ron desantis announced was desantis announced he was stepping down from the race over the weekend joining the weekend and joining the trump endorse the trump train to endorse the former yes, indeed. former president. yes, indeed. >> got behind donald trump.
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former president. yes, indeed. >> the|ot behind donald trump. former president. yes, indeed. >> the contest1d donald trump. former president. yes, indeed. >> the contest followsld trump. former president. yes, indeed. >> the contest follows former|p. now. the contest follows former president landslide president trump's landslide win in which prompted many in iowa, which prompted many onlookers the question onlookers to ask the question could he do it again? >> let's now speak to former white house director of communications under donald trump , anthony scaramucci . good trump, anthony scaramucci. good afternoon to you, anthony. thank you so much forjoining us. um, i'm a big fan of your work. and i'll ask you later on about the bitcoin etf as well, because that's a pet love of mine. but let's first of all get stuck into donald trump, the republican your history republican race and your history with the former president. because when you were the white house communications chief, anthony, at your first press briefing to reporters, you said that you loved the mission that the president was on and that you fan of him and you were a big fan of him and you were a big fan of him and you were a big fan of him and you were very loyal to him. so my question to you, sir, is what happened to your loyalty, ben ? happened to your loyalty, ben? >> are you married? yes you are okay. you haven't been through a divorce yet, though, right? yeah. there's still time. okay. all right. well, hopefully it'll never happen to you. hopefully
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you married forever, but you stay married forever, but you stay married forever, but you people you know, sometimes people get divorced . they can get divorced divorced. they can get divorced from marriage , or they can get from a marriage, or they can get divorced from business divorced from a business relationship political relationship or from a political relationship or from a political relation . and so what happens in relation. and so what happens in a situation like that? things change. and you start to make an observation of somebody . and observation of somebody. and yes, there are parts of mr trump's mission that i actually believe in. i grew up in a blue collar family and i believe that there's a good 20% of the united states that feels disenfranchised , uh, 20% of the disenfranchised, uh, 20% of the country, frankly , went from country, frankly, went from aspirational working class to economically desperation. so um, but that doesn't negate what mr trump is doing as it relates to the us constitution in, uh, it doesn't negate what he's doing as it relates to the insurrection , the election insurrection, the election interference . and let me just interference. and let me just make one last point. there are 20 cabinet members that work for mr trump closely and directly along side of myself. now, granted, i was there for 11 days, but i did work for him for
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close to a year on the campaign and we all saw the same thing and we all saw the same thing and we all saw the same thing and we were all speaking out against his temperament to be the president of the united states. so things do change. uh, fact change and smart people change their opinion. uh, when the facts change. >> well, anthony , you may have, >> well, anthony, you may have, uh, donald trump may have lost your support entirely , but your support entirely, but that's, uh, there's a difference between not supporting donald trump for president and, uh, supporting and backing president joe biden . joe biden. >> well, you only got two choices. i mean, you know, unfortunately , the united states unfortunately, the united states has decided to put up joe biden and donald trump. and so you have two choices is i'm choosing the person that's going to preserve the american institutions of the democracy. and the american system. mr trump has already said that he doesn't want to do that. he wants to be dictator for a day. he wants to expand the executive
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powers. he persecute. powers. he wants to persecute. he wants to use what is typically been an agnostic justice department, but he wants to use that to persecute his political adversaries. uh this is not stuff that the uk , uh, is not stuff that the uk, uh, the rest of the world, our european allies, our global allies , eyes, uh, will will allies, eyes, uh, will will think highly of once he's in office. and so, uh, i'm speaking out against it. uh, he's not going to win, by the way. which is totally fine. people can say whatever they want. but i submit to you rhetorically, name me one person that didn't vote for trump in 2020. that's all of a sudden saying, yeah, i'm sudden saying, okay, yeah, i'm ready the guy. it's ready to vote for the guy. it's just not going happen. just not not going to happen. and demographics the and the demographics of the country , me and beautiful, country, me and the beautiful, colourful of the country colourful mosaic of the country have changed dramatically since 2016 and 2020. so, you know , 2016 and 2020. so, you know, he's capable of expanding his support at all. >> no chance. >> no chance. >> there's no chance. and if you look at the polling numbers, demographics , his support base demographics, his support base is shrinking because frankly,
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the population of white people is shrinking. the population of white people is shrinking . and so, uh, no, is shrinking. and so, uh, no, there's no there's no chance he doesn't have that in his personality. by the way. uh, he's too divisive of a guy . personality. by the way. uh, he's too divisive of a guy. um, but listen, it'll be a fun year. hopefully you'll invite me back , hopefully you'll invite me back, uh, during the course of the year. uh, during the course of the year . it'll be uh, during the course of the year. it'll be a fun year to watch this thing unfold. but, uh, he's got no chance. and i understand why the press is ginning up a potential return of mr trump. uh, but it's just not going to happen. >> anthony, can you not be slightly generous and give president some he president trump some credit? he was , uh, the no war president as was, uh, the no war president as he's been dubbed. um, he , um, he's been dubbed. um, he, um, you know, potentially he said that he would solve the ukraine russia conflict within a day, the stock market was booming under his watch until covid reared its head. i mean, he wasn't a totally, um , uh, awful wasn't a totally, um, uh, awful president, was he ? president, was he? >> i mean, time out. let's go over each one of those things. he also said he was going to balance the us budget in four years. he added $7.8 trillion to the budget. you know, he can't
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solve the ukraine problem in a day. you also know that he slowed down the arms and materiel to the ukraine. since 1994, the united states, in exchange for the ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons , uh, up their nuclear weapons, uh, developed something called occupation. occupation, porcupine operation porcupine, where they fortified the ukrainians with anti—tank anti—ballistic missiles, etc. to protect the ukrainian people from the russian federation. mr trump slowed all of that stuff down. so when you say he's not the war president in many ways , the war president in many ways, if he asked people on the pentagon if you can get them to come on your show, they'll tell you the actions that he took dunng during his presidency, contribute to vladimir putin thinking it was an easy way to strike the ukraine. so you want to go to the stock market? the stock market has done stock market has never done better than during biden better than during the biden administration . and since the administration. and since the three of us are talking and getting along nicely, he mishandled the pandemic. we lost 21.5 million jobs during the
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pandemic . rick. yeah, i will pandemic. rick. yeah, i will give the i agree with you on that. >> i will give the president credit for recognising and the same way you guys had a brexit is a very large group of people in the united states that feel left out and they feel disenfranchised . disenfranchised. >> and i'm upset that the establishment politicians are not helping those people . mr not helping those people. mr trump represents those people . trump represents those people. he's an avatar for their anger , he's an avatar for their anger, but he has not once put forth one policy idea to help those people. he did cut taxes for the rich , and i certainly benefited rich, and i certainly benefited for that from that. but he hasn't really helped the people i grew up with. if you're going to be totally honest and objective about it. >> so, anthony, you clearly think a second for the for think a second time for the for donald trump would be an absolute disaster. mr uh, what about a second time for joe biden? what would that look like ? well listen, like i said, i'm more interested. >> i'm a patriot. first and a partisan second. i'm more
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interested in preserving the american democracy and the decentralised nature of the american government and the separations clause in our constitution, which is basically led to a very flat society, less aristocratic society, more meritocracy . i've certainly my meritocracy. i've certainly my family has benefited from the flatness of that government and the lack of that sort of state and class stuff that does not happen here in the united states . and so, you know, it's a placeholder for four years until we can find, hopefully, younger people that want to take on the challenges that america and the world is facing. i don't like the fact that the combined age of these two candidates is 159 years old. i don't think it's fair to the american public or to the world, but this is the choices that we're faced with. these are ageing baby boomers or and joe biden's case. he's a older than a baby boomer that don't want to leave the stage. and frankly , i wish they would. and frankly, i wish they would. but since they're not going to leave the stage and we have two
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choices, going with one choices, i'm going with the one that american that preserves the american democracy . that preserves the american derum,|cy . that preserves the american der um, anthony, mentioned >> um, anthony, you mentioned about , uh, >> um, anthony, you mentioned about, uh, um, you >> um, anthony, you mentioned about , uh, um, you know, about, uh, um, you know, upholding the institutions of the states . i mean, the united states. i mean, republicans would argue that donald persecuted donald trump has been persecuted by, uh, biden's weaponized doj . by, uh, biden's weaponized doj. mar—a—lago was raided. he's been indicted. he's been arrested. so so what do you have to say to those republicans . who would those republicans. who would push back with that argument? >> very respectful to , uh, i >> very respectful to, uh, i guess these guys are republicans. i mean, i'm still a republican, very republican, but be very respectful just respectful to them and just point number he moved point out number one, he moved the documents into the bathroom point out number one, he moved th
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was the former chief of staff of the president of the united states. he's the chief witness against him. so i get the talking points . against him. so i get the talking points. um, but there's also facts that can't be obfuscated by the talking points. so with all due respect to them, now, if you want to ask me about the case in new york, you know, i'm not a big fan of that case. think that there's that case. i think that there's deleterious facts in that case. and that that case is and i do think that that case is unfair the president. but the unfair to the president. but the insurrection case and the documents case, i mean, come on, guys, you can't you can't take the documents out of the white house and then have your agents in and expect in the field die and expect there to be not any repercussions . repercussions. >> okay. great stuff. well, look, anthony, i'm going to ask you question. i've been you one more question. i've been involved since pretty involved in bitcoin since pretty much start, i was i was much the start, and i was i was very pleased, also very pleased, but also bittersweet to see the etfs launched in america last week. you've gone from a decentralised consensus to all the big boys like blackrock getting involved very, very briefly please, because we're pushed for time .
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because we're pushed for time. what's your thoughts on the etfs and is it a good thing for bitcoin and also trump by the way, says he's anti dec . way, says that he's anti dec. >> yeah. well listen there'll be 100 plus billion dollars in the combined bitcoin etfs which will lead to bitcoin getting to an all time high before the end of the year . uh all time high before the end of the year. uh and remember if it just has to retail face some of the aspects of gold . gold's got the aspects of gold. gold's got a $14 trillion market cap. if bitcoin just gets to a seven it's a ten x from here. yeah uh but ben ben you're showing your age ben by owning bitcoin. so you know you're not below 30 are you. >> yeah i mean absolutely no idea what any of that meant. and actually no a lot a lot of our viewers won't so i apologise. >> but it's a fairly big thing. and anthony here is a wall street og, don't mind me street og, if you don't mind me saying and don't sell your bitcoin ben. >> big message okay? bitcoin ben. >> about big message okay? bitcoin ben. >> about trump|essage okay? bitcoin ben. >> about trump and|ge okay? bitcoin ben. >> about trump and biden.y? forget about trump and biden. don't sell your bitcoin won't. don't sell your bitcoin i won't. >> well there you go. >> well there you go. >> use privilege as the >> you use your privilege as the uh the presenter there, the interviewer you uh the presenter there, the intermuch' your you uh the presenter there, the
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intermuch' your anthony very much for your time. anthony scaramucci white scaramucci there, former white house of house director of communications. good to speak to you . you. >> yeah, i'm a big fan of his work. he's he's not just a trump white house comms chief, but he's a wall street legend as well. he's a massive republican party donor. i don't agree completely. finance guy. absolutely. >> coming up, the prime >> well, coming up, the prime minister defended minister has defended uk airstrikes on the houthi rebels overnight, saying he won't hesitate further action hesitate to take further action against the militant group if necessary . are we being dragged necessary. are we being dragged into in the into another conflict in the middle east? you're watching good on .
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news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> right. it is 223 and earlier this afternoon , the prime this afternoon, the prime minister updated the house of commons on the joint uk us airstrikes against the houthi rebels overnight as the militant group continues to attack commercial and military shipping in the red sea . in the red sea. >> yeah. rishi sunak added that he will not hesitate to take further action if necessary, but iran condemned the strikes iran has condemned the strikes as, quote, a strategic mistake. now, it's interesting because lord , the foreign lord cameron, the foreign secretary, he met iranians secretary, he met the iranians last week. i mean, i don't last week. and i mean, i don't know why he it. why would know why he did it. why would they listen to him? but they said cameron said, stop arming the rebels . and you just the houthi rebels. and you just wonder how many airstrikes, how much intervention is it going to take for the houthis to get the message? it doesn't look like it's happening just yet.
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>> did make >> yes. and rishi sunak did make the this isn't just the point that this isn't just military they're military strikes alone. they're also is a diplomatic strategy military strikes alone. they're also also diplomatic strategy military strikes alone. they're also also sanctionsc strategy military strikes alone. they're also also sanctions talks:egy military strikes alone. they're also also sanctions talks , gy and also sanctions talks, humanitarian aid, course , to humanitarian aid, of course, to the yemeni people, too, who are suffering the civil war. but shall we speak again to gb news security editor mark white? mark, any updates on this? >> uh , no more updates on the >> uh, no more updates on the news. we reported a while back about these drones that were spotted. no indications yet that they have reached any target . so they have reached any target. so we don't know what's happened to that. we don't know what's happened to that . it was a we don't know what's happened to that. it was a report we don't know what's happened to that . it was a report that the that. it was a report that the uk maritime trade operation centre, which looks after security , uh, in terms of security, uh, in terms of alerting merchant shipping to security issues in the red sea, gulf of aden . uh, the, the uh gulf of aden. uh, the, the uh arabian gulf, um, uh, persian gulf , whichever, uh, we want to gulf, whichever, uh, we want to describe it. um, they had reported that these drones were
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spotted southwest off the coast of yemen , and they were urging of yemen, and they were urging all shipping to be on the lookout. so we're clearly watching to see what exactly the houthis do now, in response to this latest round of strikes that involved the uk military for the first time since the 11th of january, when they, um, joined the initial strikes with the americans . after that, there the americans. after that, there was half a dozen very smaller scale strikes that were in response to the houthis launching attacks on other shipping in the red sea and the gulf of aden. um, but the prime minister said the reason that they wanted to go after the houthis and these specific targets last night was because of intelligence assessments . of intelligence assessments. they were gathering the best intelligence with a view to carry out strikes that would degrade the houthis. um
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capability to launch more strikes. what he said is that they're not capable. the uk really, or it's just not practical for the uk to launch strikes in response to every missile strike that the houthis launch. missile strike that the houthis launch . but what we can expect, launch. but what we can expect, perhaps going forward, is more concerted , uh, air strikes when concerted, uh, air strikes when they've got targets acquired that they are confident will be able to degrade the houthis ability to launch these missiles. >> okay, great stuff. security editor mark white, thank you for your expertise. as always, interest ing. >> now the uk is bracing for the 10th named storm of the season . 10th named storm of the season. the high winds and rain of storm josslyn are making their way across the country. >> the met office has issued a danger to life alert across parts of scotland. that's partly due to flying debris, other due to flying debris, with other smaller warnings ready for areas of northern england. let's cross now to porthcawl in south wales and speak to our reporterjack and speak to our reporter jack carson, who's out and about in the terrible weather. oh, deary
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me jack, are you at risk of me, jack, are you at risk of getting blown there? jack? getting blown away there? jack? >> . >> oh dear. >> oh dear. >> i feel like it. my >> oh dear. >> i feel like it . my trousers >> i feel like it. my trousers have turned into sails. i could probably go out on the water and make dash for make a dash for make a dash for make a dash for bristol across the across from south wales. but yeah, here in porthcawl particularly this wind over the past few hours since we've been here is really picked up. it was 12:00 today when that yellow weather warning from the met office for wind for this part of south wales and the rest of into force . it of wales came into force. it comes into place, stays into place until, uh, afternoon on wednesday. and as you can see, it's really, really gusty here up to 40 to 40 to 50 miles an hour of wind, um, are hitting this coastline currently . and of this coastline currently. and of course, this isn't even the worst part of the uk, particularly in parts of scotland . there's an amber scotland. there's an amber warning for wind on the top. uh, north. uh western parts of scotland for wind , it could scotland for wind, it could reach up to 80 miles an hour. now that is, of course, significantly less than what we
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saw storm. east show saw with storm. uh, east show where speeds of where we saw wind speeds of around an hour. but around 100 miles an hour. but the disruption this is the disruption that this is causing over the over the transport networks particularly, is huge . avanti is obviously quite huge. avanti west uh, and trans west coast, uh, and trans pennine urging people not to travel between england and scotland from around uh 330 today. avanti west coast, advising their customers to avoid going anywhere north of preston after that time and expect telling people that are getting on the train from london to glasgow to expect to go to glasgow to expect a very, very, uh, busy service. now we know trees have come down as well on roads across the country that's been causing disruption as well. in one case there was a greenhouse on the train tracks. uh, and of course we have yesterday, because of storm uh, those two people storm isha. uh, those two people who have sadly passed away because of, uh, incidents caused by the weather and by the storm. of course, that danger to life alert, um, comes when you name a storm. it's the jostling. is the 10th named storm of the year. and of course, if there's two more before between now and
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august, it will become one of the busiest storm seasons. it's certainly the most active storm season that we have had so far in the uk, with it already being ten storms, but as you can see here in porthcawl, it's pretty windy at the moment. >> jack, do you need to bend down behind that groyne down and get behind that groyne of wall about of the wall you're about to jack. are you are a trooper. jack. you are you are a trooper. >> that. this >> remembering all of that. this is regional reporting is proper regional reporting you're seeing. an award you're seeing. he's an award winning reporter. award winning reporter. he is an award winning reporter. he is an award winning reporter. and, uh, you're very, uh , not not you're looking very, uh, not not flustered at all. not flustered at all. jack >> yeah, thank you very much. thank you. um, yeah. as i said, when we're in the car earlier, the wind was rocking the car. so that just shows the power that we've got in this wind force. and particularly these and particularly on these coastal inland, should coastal areas inland, should hopefully be a little bit better. but of course, the met office are going to be watching this storm as it comes, um, in from the arctic over the next kind of 24 hours to check whether to maybe whether they will have to maybe increase weather warnings whether they will have to maybe increyyellow weather warnings whether they will have to maybe increyyellow wetorer warnings whether they will have to maybe increyyellow weto amber.|ings whether they will have to maybe increyyellow weto amber. of|s from yellow from to amber. of course, level of wind
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course, with this level of wind speed, have that loose speed, when you have that loose flying already flying debris that's already maybe on the floor maybe laying on the floor because of storm because of the impact of storm isha, that's that. what isha, that's that. that's what maybe the maybe is going to be the problem. the debris that's already caused that already been caused by that previous this second previous storm, this second storm further storm now whipping up further problems. office problems. so the met office inside absolute maniac jack i inside absolute maniac jack! >> get inside. take cover like i can't imagine. there are many locals out and about. >> what a trooper. >> what a trooper. >> what a trooper. >> safe. jack, please, >> stay safe. jack, please, won't because serious won't you? because on a serious note, had two deaths note, we have had two deaths from storm echr. so yeah. from storm echr. um. so yeah. keep the good work. great stuff. >> @ safe . $— @ safe . indeed. >> stay safe. indeed. now, that was quite amusing. i shouldn't laugh, quite comical . laugh, but it's quite comical. >> you have laugh at some of >> you have to laugh at some of it. i know is a serious it. i know there is a serious side it, when you see side to it, but when you see a top reporter jack carson top reporter like jack carson getting like that, it's getting stuck in like that, it's what is, uh. getting stuck in like that, it's thwhatjh. getting stuck in like that, it's thwhat do you call it? his herd >> what do you call it? his herd was very fast, didn't was got very, very fast, didn't it? yeah it? there. yeah >> why he's an award >> that's why he's an award winning one of ours on winning reporter. one of ours on gb news. coming it gb news. right coming up, is it time abolish the house of time to abolish the house of lords? we'll be discussing that with your with our panel after your headunes with our panel after your headlines tatiana.
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headlines with tatiana. >> ben. thank you. it's 230 that your top stories from the gb news room? the prime minister says the uk will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks in the red sea. rishi sunak described attacks on commercial ships by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unacceptable . that comes after unacceptable. that comes after last night's joint strike with the us, which took place after a meeting with us president joe biden. mr sunak says new sanctions would be announced in the coming days and any further attacks will be deterred . a mass attacks will be deterred. a mass screening of more than 300,000 police officers, staff and volunteers has led to nine criminal investigations . the criminal investigations. the review, carried out in the wake of sarah everard's murder by a serving officer, uncovered 461 cases in need of assessment . cases in need of assessment. most of the officers were ranked chief inspector or below, but one chief officer was found to need management action. one case involved alleged sexual
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offences, while another was due to claims of drug offences. there were also two accusations of fraud . a man who killed three of fraud. a man who killed three people in a spate of attacks in nottingham has had his not guilty plea accept it on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to mental illness. 32 year old osvaldo carl heneghan , also known as carl heneghan, also known as adam mendes, instead pled guilty to manslaughter in november. he killed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley. cooma and school caretaker coates in june caretaker ian coates in june last year. he also admitted to trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks . rishi sunak says the uk attacks. rishi sunak says the uk will work with belgium to combat people smuggling gangs, as he welcomed the country's prime minister to downing street . minister to downing street. alexander de croo praised britain as a good neighbour with the two leaders pledging to tackle illegal migration with increased cooperation . the increased cooperation. the belgian leader said he looked forward to working with the uk in he described as a first in what he described as a first of a kind law enforcement
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partnership in. and another storm is sweeping across britain, bringing fresh disruption for commuters. just a day after storm isha , the met day after storm isha, the met office says storm jocelyn will bnng office says storm jocelyn will bring strong winds with amber and yellow alerts issued for much of the country. yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern parts of scotland , and eastern parts of scotland, and. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com .
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news >> who's . >> who's. >> who's. >> welcome back. it's 237. you're with ben and emily on good afternoon britain. um, rishi sunak rwanda plan suffered its first defeat in the house of lords yesterday when peers , lords yesterday when peers, unelected peers, some would say voted by 214 to 171, not to ratify the agreement. >> yes, the unelected chamber has been accused of acting against the will of the people, by people . some are saying by some people. some are saying that peers have purposely peers are torpid doing or are purposefully torpid doing or attempting to the prime minister's rwanda plan . so we're minister's rwanda plan. so we're going to ask, is it time to aboush going to ask, is it time to abolish the house of lords ? is abolish the house of lords? is with us? is the former editor of the sunday express, martin townsend, and the former labour adviser matthew laza. interesting to get your interested get your views on interested to get your views on this one. we had a bit of a punchy debate earlier between lord bailey and neil lord shaun bailey and neil hamilton. called him elitist,
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hamilton. he called him elitist, didn't he? >> hamilton called sean an elitist. think he's the elitist. yeah, i think he's the least elitist. >> quite charge >> it's quite a hard charge against sean. there are other things criticise sean for. >> when i was part of the elite, i if being a lord doesn't i mean, if being a lord doesn't make you part of the elite, lord bailey paddington. make you part of the elite, lord baiwell, paddington. make you part of the elite, lord baiwell, paddiyouyn. make you part of the elite, lord baiwell, paddiyou go. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> shaun bailey the very >> shaun bailey of the very manor sat in gb manor that we're sat in in gb news now, lot of news studios now, a lot of people left have been people on the left have been very critical of the house of lords, particularly, know, very critical of the house of lords,theyicularly, know, very critical of the house of lords,theyicularly, it, know, very critical of the house of lords,theyicularly, it, in> but the truth of the matter is lords is an anachronism. is the lords is an anachronism. it's bit of a sort of half it's a bit of a sort of half done job, because tony blair's government got rid of all but 92 of hereditary um, and of the hereditary peers. um, and then, of course, because there
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were rules what do were no rules about what you do then ministers can then and prime ministers can create they like. create as many as they like. we've seen the situation where the created the tories have created more peers government peers than any other government in either party. um, peers than any other government in you've either party. um, peers than any other government in you've got:her party. um, peers than any other government in you've got thisparty. um, peers than any other government in you've got this ridiculously and you've got this ridiculously oversized chamber, as you were saying earlier, they all saying earlier, they can't all meet it's the largest, meet together. it's the largest, um , second largest, i think, um, second largest, i think, chamber in the world after the chinese communists, you know, and population is and and their population is and their population is somewhat larger . so, yeah, their population is somewhat larger. so, yeah, i mean, so something has to be done. it can't it can't carry on as it is. and one danger is there's a lot of pressure on keir starmer to really create a you know, 100 or when he is, they or 150 peers when he is, they might get desperate. they might get so desperate. they have wasn't starmer have to ask me, wasn't starmer once, uh, pro abolishing the law? it's actually official law? so it's actually official labour abolish it labour policy to abolish it. it has is going to stick to >> yeah. is he going to stick to that master. >> that's big question. >> well that's the big question. >> well that's the big question. >> i hope not. i really >> well, i hope not. i really hope because think it's >> well, i hope not. i really h0|essentialecause think it's >> well, i hope not. i really h0|essential iause think it's >> well, i hope not. i really h0|essential i think think it's >> well, i hope not. i really h0|essential i think it's1k it's >> well, i hope not. i really h0|essential i think it's an t's an essential i think it's an essential part of democracy. essential part of our democracy. i think i it's very good essential part of our democracy. i thavei it's very good essential part of our democracy. i thave a it's very good essential part of our democracy. i thave a second; very good essential part of our democracy. i thave a second chamberyd essential part of our democracy. i thave a second chamber that, to have a second chamber that, that and that puts in the checks and balances. i also have some it would . would be elected. >> have an elected senate. would be elected. >> i have an elected senate. would be elected. >> i also have an elected senate.
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would be elected. >> i also have it'szlected senate. would be elected. >> i also have it's not:ed senate. would be elected. >> i also have it's not the senate. >> i also have it's not the same. i'm sorry. it's not the same. i'm sorry. it's not the same. and i and i have same. and i and i and i have some sympathy with your view earlier about earlier actually, emily, about about hereditary peers. i've about the hereditary peers. i've never seen a problem with that, particularly because i think i think idea is it think the whole idea is it should should be should be rand. it should be fairly these people are fairly okay. these people are all you maybe it's all from you know, maybe it's not random maybe i'm going not random and maybe i'm going too i think what i like too far, but i think what i like about it's packed about it is if it's packed with tories, with labour, it tories, packed with labour, it doesn't really work. but i think tories, packed with labour, it dcit's 't really work. but i think tories, packed with labour, it dcit's a really work. but i think tories, packed with labour, it dcit's a mixture ork. but i think tories, packed with labour, it dcit's a mixture of. but i think tories, packed with labour, it dcit's a mixture of people think tories, packed with labour, it dcit's a mixture of people and if it's a mixture of people and certainly it's not peers certainly it's not 800 peers deciding it's it will deciding on rwanda, it's it will be some who want to do, you know, sort of get involved in that debate i think has shaun bailey earlier the whole bailey said earlier the whole point and particularly point about it and particularly in case, think rwanda in this case, i think is rwanda is really, is a really flawed, really, really bill. totally really flawed bill. i'm totally against it. i think it's going to be a field day for lawyers. and i think basically what the lords were saying let's have lords were saying is let's have a really look this a really good look at this before there, before we put it out there, because are loads of because there are loads of lawyers rubbing their hands together. be together. there's going to be endless going endless appeals. it's going to be endlessly fraught process. be an endlessly fraught process. i against rwanda , i am absolutely against rwanda, bill. i think it's impractical. it's going to it's not it's not going to work. it's not going deal with enough cases.
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going to deal with enough cases. and i think there's much better ways of doing it. and funnily enough, for about five minutes, i starmer that i think keir starmer said that he favour of he was more in favour of actually going after the traffickers , which is my view. traffickers, which is my view. i think that's go. think that's the way to go. >> a difference, though, >> there's a difference, though, between suggesting tweaks to a bill, well and accepting bill, knowing well and accepting well government has the well that the government has the democratic to put through democratic right to put through their whether you their legislation, whether you like not, and trying to like it or not, and trying to take wrecking ball to do take a wrecking ball to it. do you that maybe the house you believe that maybe the house of wish to do that? of lords may wish to do that? >> i genuinely think that >> no. i genuinely think that they are examining what is has been a really flawed and fraught piece of legislation to make sure that it can be as robust as it can be. i personally think they're never going to make it robust enough. yeah. and so, you know, as i say in this particular i'm absolutely particular case, i'm absolutely on i think on their side. but i think countless we've seen over countless times we've seen over the the house lords the years the house of lords acts really good second acts is a really good second chamber, as shaun chamber, a kind of a as shaun bailey was saying, for scrutiny . bailey was saying, for scrutiny. and i think that's really important . important. >> matthew, just >> matthew, can't we just i mean, this lords amendment, mean, this this lords amendment, the doesn't have to the government doesn't have to
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listen do can't we listen to it, do they? can't we just can't sunak just say, nah, you're okay. thank yeah. you're okay. thank you. yeah. >> can they can >> i mean, they can they can reverse amendments reverse any of the amendments in the and terms of the commons. and in terms of stopping bill, the labour stopping the bill, the labour peers quite clear. peers have been quite clear. they're to they're not going to attempt to do because don't want do that because they don't want to the will of the to thwart, uh, the will of the elected so is a elected chamber. so there is a limit to what you can do. so if we want a revising second chamber, because the lords is unelected, there always that unelected, there is always that natural break what on natural break on what on what they they do. so they and what they can do. so labour's proposal is have labour's proposal is to have an elected second chamber, and it will outside. will be based outside. >> sure i the point >> i'm not sure i see the point of that. already elect our of that. we already elect our mps represent i'm not mps to represent us. i'm not sure we need an elected second chamber america. chamber in america. >> else has got it. chamber in america. >> well, else has got it. chamber in america. >> well, don't has got it. chamber in america. >> well, don't has 1to it. chamber in america. >> well, don't has 1to be >> well, we don't have to be like everyone else, do we? i mean, in theory, in theory, i was supportive of house of was supportive of the house of lords. practice, lords. i think in practice, however, various however, with the various political mean, political appointees, i mean, it's nice. it's quite nice. >> a bit of character to >> it's a bit of character to the country, isn't it? you've got parading around, but got lords parading around, but really, if you ask them much more a really more than that, it's a really important is it house? >> i think it is. yeah. really important. think perhaps it's important. i think perhaps it's i we should bloat
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i think we should blow it, bloat it a bloated. it a bit bloated. >> i the two minute 800 is pushing it. >> got people £800 a day. >> people with all kinds of specialities, people all specialities, people that all different interests. >> i mean, i've known >> you know, i mean, i've known some really good lords over the lord ali, for instance, i thought did some brilliant work in lots, in there. and there are lots, lots of people that i really admire have brilliant work admire have done brilliant work in lords. and in the house of lords. and i think people want free thinkers in . in there. >> yeah, and the political allegiances upset that then they can't complain when the government can't complain when the govso ment can't complain when the govso it's1t can't complain when the govso it's a balance , isn't it? >> so it's a balance, isn't it? you want free thinkers. they're not always going the not always going to toe the government line. that's why government line. and that's why you of all you see governments of all stripes get defeated when there's headstrong, there's a particular headstrong, particularly from the independent particularly from the indepencost, for a lot >> the cost, i think for a lot of people, the whole brexit debacle, um, sort of coloured the house of lords a little. it's certainly for people, whether you in favour or against. >> people don't want unelected officials dictating how laws are made in this country. that's what brexit was about. that's why we got rid of brussels . why we got rid of brussels. you've got 800 of them nearly in the lords, and you need an elected chamber, which
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elected second chamber, which so, you know, labour's solution. elected second chamber, which so, iou know, labour's solution. elected second chamber, which so, iou kno'i. labour's solution. elected second chamber, which so, iou kno'i meanjr's solution. elected second chamber, which so, iou kno'i mean my solution. elected second chamber, which so, iou kno'i mean my bestion. elected second chamber, which so, iou kno'i mean my best moment >> i mean, i mean my best moment was when we were doing a labour conference, regional conference, in a regional conference, in a regional conftoence conference, in a regional confto think of a story. so we had to think of a story. so we decided can come to decided we can come to blackpool. i think moment blackpool. i think at the moment there official there isn't an official designation of where would designation of where it would be. york thought, well, be. maybe york is thought, well, i blair loved his i mean, tony blair loved his constitutional reform forms, so perhaps starmer the same. >> $- @ maybe he's as you >> maybe, maybe he's as you said, i didn't know that said, it's i didn't know that actually that's labour policy to, laws or to, uh, to reform the laws or aboush to, uh, to reform the laws or abolish abolish it and abolish them, to abolish it and have elected senate. abolish them, to abolish it and have > i think they still used to be very careful. >> i think they still used to be ven no, �*eful. >> i think they still used to be ven no, �*efuino, it would be, it >> no, no, no, it would be, it would be outside london. >> no, no, no, it would be, it wotgoodnessside london. >> goodness me. >> goodness me. >> think have to be >> i think they'd have to be really careful about that. >> think so too. i think >> yeah, i think so too. i think so don't to so too. we don't want to bulldoze our institutions without thinking about whether the alternative is actually better earlier we better. but anyway, earlier we spoke to former house spoke to former white house director scaramucci about anthony scaramucci about the chances of a donald trump win in the us election comes as nikki haley hampshire haley says the new hampshire vote this evening is not a coronation for the former president . president. >> matthew laza. sukh . hsi. >> matthew laza. uh sukh. hsi. some would say he's bitter. he was sacked by donald trump after
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ten days in the white house, and now he's just on a campaign to get his even shorter than get his was even shorter than liz premiership . liz truss's premiership. >> tensions go , >> as political tensions go, yes, would still be yes, that lettuce would still be spring. that one. >> the extraordinary thing is scaramucci is now backing biden over mean, that's bit over trump. i mean, that's a bit that's i think it's because he's worried the future of world. >> i mean, know, look, >> i mean, you know, look, i mean, has got many mean, biden has got many qualities , uh, you know, qualities clearly, uh, you know, there some serious there were also some serious issues as president issues with biden as president as well. and frankly, i think from perspective in the uk, from our perspective in the uk, a sort of a battle of the of the of the i'm going to put it politely, older gents is um, is not particularly encouraging, but i'm really worried but i mean, i'm really worried about what trump presidency about what a trump presidency would while the would mean for while he was the no president. no war president. >> he was the no war >> but he was the no war president because nothing happened on his watch, not because would. because because he would. >> design. >> not by design. >> not by design. >> no, he was the first >> no, no, no, he was the first us leader meet north us leader to meet the north korean the korean leader in the demilitarised zone. and then he. >> he did exact >> and then he did the exact opposite. took mickey opposite. he took the mickey out of on with his of him by carrying on with his tests. soon as they did it. tests. as soon as they did it. >> that's how he did it with threats and with with humour. people the that
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people got the message that you're how much you're not going to how much intel the ukrainians got on him? >> e know, and the >> uh, you know, and the russians him. but what it russians got on him. but what it was interesting that that scaramucci said, he said that was interesting that that scaramitrump d, he said that was interesting that that scaramitrump d, h not id that was interesting that that scaramitrump d, h not expanded donald trump has not expanded his voter base. >> yes, he has a very, uh, enthusiast voter base, but he he won't have have, uh , enlarged it i >> -- >> does it matter? i mean, if he gets he says because of demographics, the system, the system is the system. >> he says , i absolutely doubt that. >> i think i think donald trump, if he is going to, is going to go all the way and win. definitely. what i find really depressing is coming back to your gentlemen. i your two elderly gentlemen. i mean, such mean, you know, america is such a vibrant nation. why aren't there two younger people like fighting this? fighting? >> well, you've got vivek ramaswamy , who is the. ramaswamy, who is the. >> it'sjust ramaswamy, who is the. >> it's just extraordinary that these two i mean, it's just like, know, when will they like, you know, when will they go away? know, will go away? you know, when will they disappear give they actually disappear and give somebody else a chance? that's what . in britain find what i think. in britain we find it just find it really it really. i just find it really difficult to think that that is the best can up.
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the best they can come up. >> i think an >> you know, i think there's an arrogance know, it's arrogance there. you know, it's not. well, obviously there's a bit of arrogance there. these bit of an arrogance there. these people know, fighting bit of an arrogance there. these peo toe know, fighting bit of an arrogance there. these peo to be know, fighting bit of an arrogance there. these peo to be the know, fighting bit of an arrogance there. these peoto be the presidentighting bit of an arrogance there. these peo to be the president of |ting bit of an arrogance there. these peo to be the president of thei out to be the president of the united wanting united states. but wanting to cling , uh, that cling on despite, uh, that age. there a there is a sort of there is a there is a sort of arrogance there. >> i mean, to be honest, i have ihave >> i mean, to be honest, i have i have slightly fewer reservations being reservations about trump being president than other do, president than other people do, because think in practice, i because i think in practice, i think, were saying think, as you were saying earlier, think there were earlier, ben, i think there were good about trump. you good things about trump. you know, there were lot of bad know, there were a lot of bad things. a lot of things. there were a lot of good. but, you know, that's the same president, same with every president, really. i don't really. i you know, i don't think wholly think there's any wholly brilliant ever had. >> e- e i wanted to hit back >> frankly, i wanted to hit back at anthony scaramucci he at anthony scaramucci when he said white vote said that the his white vote was diminishing. actually, i am of the jarang. diminishing. actually, i am of the jar said there are fewer white >> he said there are fewer white people a proportion of the people as a proportion of the electorate. so therefore, trump is lose votes in 2016. is going to lose votes in 2016. >> share of >> he won the biggest share of the hispanic black uh the hispanic and black vote. uh out other republican out of any other republican president in history. and i believe, correct if i'm believe, correct me if i'm wrong, he increased share wrong, he increased that share in 2020 when he lost to biden, so i think he's just so i don't think he's just relying white vote. relying on the white vote. >> that's right. there is an issue actually wing
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issue actually for right wing parties an parties that tend to have an older, demographic, an older, um, uh, demographic, an older, um, uh, demographic, an older voter base, including the tories. strategist told tories. one tory strategist told me day, what me the other day, what percentage of 2019 tory voters have every year ? and it's have died every year? and it's a rather grim thing. >> and you know what? the problem the tories is? as problem with the tories is? as a conservative, the problem you want to. well, one of the problems conserve problems you want to conserve is something problems you want to conserve is somet buying they're aren't buying houses. they're not families because not having families because they're and haven't got they're skint and haven't got houses. 14 years, the houses. so after 14 years, the tories younger, well tories younger, younger well yeah. have yeah. younger voters have nothing conserve. yeah. younger voters have not exactly. :onserve. yeah. younger voters have not exactly. so serve. yeah. younger voters have not exactly. so i�*rve. yeah. younger voters have not exactly. so i mean you know, >> exactly. so i mean you know, i mean it was i mean it was an awful but remember awful thing. but remember when they of the second they were the talk of the second referendum, the pro—european lobby hopes that might lobby hopes that it might win because, because of because, you know, because of demographic because, you know, because of demogrtput, um, people are politely put, um, people are still houses. still buying houses. >> the age at which one >> yes. the age at which one purchases a house has gone. >> it's becoming a very people are. >> i mean, outside of the south east, people are still being able to get on the property. >> i think a lot of young people, it's a struggle, don't feel proper stake in feel they have a proper stake in this nation. i honestly don't, feel they have a proper stake in this i ation. i honestly don't, feel they have a proper stake in this i think i honestly don't, feel they have a proper stake in this i think that'szstly don't, feel they have a proper stake in this i think that'szstlynoti't, feel they have a proper stake in this i think that'szstlynot just and i think that's it's not just down tories. down to the tories. >> it's tough for the
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>> i know it's tough for the tories electorally because as you say, it's definitely tough tories electorally because as y0lthe', it's definitely tough tories electorally because as y0lthe', it's cbecause tough tories electorally because as y0lthe', it's cbecause tythink for the tories because i think traditionally you know, traditionally tories, you know, you you have you vote tory because you have something to you've got something to lose if you've got nothing lose then you vote nothing to lose then you vote laboun nothing to lose then you vote lablun nothing to lose then you vote labi mean, you've got the same >> i mean, you've got the same debates going on in the states and in australia and other european countries, younger people being able to get on people not being able to get on the housing ladder, not not starting as a of starting families as a result of not having it's not just about that, emily. that, though, emily. >> just about not being that, though, emily. >> to just about not being that, though, emily. >> to justthe)ut not being that, though, emily. >> to justthe housingeing able to get on the housing ladden able to get on the housing ladder. a it's a general ladder. it's a it's a general it's a general feeling. i think of by a lot of of disaffection by a lot of a lot of young people just don't feel they're properly feel that they're properly represented. they just feel they get. >> 5 get. >> older people >> i think a lot of older people feel well they do, feel like that. well they do, but think it's a it's a real but i think it's a it's a real problem young people feel problem when young people feel like that because they the future. >> basically, i just think those people they have people don't feel they have a well, they are yeah, it well, they are kind of yeah, it used to be that you were sort of more during more left leaning during university, go university, and then you'd go into and you'd into the workplace and you'd understand world understand really how the world works instead of just through your student your rose tinted student spectacles. >> now the i mean, the >> oh, but now the i mean, the average age of a tory voter is now something in is basically in
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their 60s. um, that true? their 60s. um, is that true? yeah. so the mean, yeah. yeah, yeah. so the i mean, the age is now it's not class. uh, alongside uh, i think age alongside education are two the higher education are the two the higher education are the two the higher education has a big impact are the biggest determination the two biggest determination determiners of how vote determiners of how you'd vote today when we were according to polls though . no, no, think polls though. no, no, i think that's because people don't tell the never truth in >> they never tell the truth in academic studies, young academic studies, because young tories going to tories are never going to say, i'm voting no. >> think they take into >> i think they take that into account. yeah. >> i mean, the polls are >> i mean, and the polls are always you always wrong, aren't they? you know what i think some of the youngen know what i think some of the younger, younger generation may actually conservative. >> got there's been >> you've got there's been a little against the little backlash against the excesses the wokery little backlash against the excethat. the wokery little backlash against the excethat. yeah the wokery little backlash against the excethat. yeah there's wokery little backlash against the excethat. yeah there's a/okery little backlash against the excethat. yeah there's a/okeof and that. yeah there's a lot of olivia utley there. olivia utley out there. >> definitely. can tell you >> definitely. i can tell you that. just going back >> definitely. i can tell you th.the just going back >> definitely. i can tell you th.the us just going back >> definitely. i can tell you th.the us and just going back >> definitely. i can tell you th.the us and we ;t going back >> definitely. i can tell you th.the us and we went1g back >> definitely. i can tell you th.the us and we went down :k great. >> it's a fascinating conversation, but just going back to the us, what a back to the us, what would a trump presidency for trump presidency mean for britain? saying britain? because i keep saying this. the daily telegraph this. but the daily telegraph had an interesting story a few weeks ministers had an interesting story a few weekquietly ministers had an interesting story a few weekquietly hoping ministers had an interesting story a few weekquietly hoping that ;ters had an interesting story a few weekquietly hoping that we'd were quietly hoping that we'd get because we get a get a trump win because we get a trade deal. joe biden, of course, has snubbed us. one and bofis course, has snubbed us. one and boris johnson over the weekend in his daily column, said
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boris johnson over the weekend in hisum,ly column, said boris johnson over the weekend in hisum, well column, said boris johnson over the weekend in hisum, well colunwhatiid that, um, well echoed what i said. i mean, great minds think alike. but said the alike. but he said that the world would be a more peaceful place with charge. what place with trump in charge. what would britain? would it mean for britain? >> because >> i totally disagree, because i think which is the think that nato, which is the importance of which we've seen a more than over the last 2 importance of which we've seen a m> to t's one thing to, you perfectly legitimate aim. >> to call1e thing to, you perfectly legitimate aim. >> to call theirng to, you perfectly legitimate aim. >> to call their bluff, you know, to call their bluff, sadly, and it is the europeans fault. you know, a lot of countries haven't increased fault. you know, a lot of countmilitaryen't increased fault. you know, a lot of countmilitary spending, sed fault. you know, a lot of countmilitary spending, ini their military spending, in particular the particular germany, which is the sleeping comes defence. >> there are worries, course, >> there are worries, of course, about the us's position on on ukraine. >> yes, there are, but i, i actually i mean and that was a concern for me, but i look at the idea of a trump presidency actually, and i actually don't think he would he would go that far. i don't think he would pull out. >> he says he'd end the conflict in a day. >> yeah, well, that's good luck with mean, it's just it's >> well, i mean, it's just it's just it's bluster going
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just it's bluster and he's going to dictator on day i to be a dictator on day one. i actually for future of actually worry for the future of democracy in the united states. >> no, don't >> you know, that's. no, i don't come squeeze in one more story. >> do we have time? go on then. do we have time? this is, uh, the gender pay gap stuff, the gender gender pay gap stuff, which think a lot of it's which i think a lot of it's quite nonsensical. but anyway, civil to collect pay employers to collect gender pay gap on how their gap figures based on how their workers rather than workers identify, rather than their biological sex. the telegraph can reveal which sounds ludicrous to me because you could change the way you identify and it might skew the might skew the graphs as somewhat. but i want to ask, do you we should do you think you think we should do you think we forcing we should even be forcing companies publish this data? we should even be forcing co itpanies publish this data? we should even be forcing co it a nies publish this data? we should even be forcing co it a waste publish this data? we should even be forcing co it a waste of ublish this data? we should even be forcing co it a waste of time? this data? is it a waste of time? >> i just have to ask the question, why are we still talking about gender gap? talking about a gender pay gap? because there's yeah but because there's 23. yeah but there 24 now. there should be 24 now. absolutely should be. and absolutely we should not be. and it's just ridiculous that, you know , in 2023 we shouldn't be know, in 2023 we shouldn't be having this debate about if someone the same as someone does the same job as somebody else that, you know, they that's different. they could be that's different. >> pay. the gender >> that's equal pay. the gender pay >> that's equal pay. the gender pay quite pay gap is something quite different. actually it is different. and actually it is
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the the motherhood the it is the motherhood penalty, which some might not view as a penalty at all. and actually men and women, same thing. and it only starts diverging once you get to baby years, breeding years i think i think it's we can have a serious debate about about it. >> we can only have it when we've got the facts. so yes, we should have gender pay all. it's the pay gap audits, the gender pay gap audits, which every certain every company over a certain size but clearly they size has to do. but clearly they should be based upon legal should be based upon the legal gender people involved. gender of the people involved. so have got so obviously if people have got agenda, changed agenda, if they've changed their gender that gender legally, then that should be to be recognised. but it needs to be recognised. but it needs to be done legal gender. it be done in a legal gender. it can a less leading can be a bit less leading though, because they said easyjet, example, this easyjet, for example, has this massive, massive gender massive, massive, massive gender pay pay gap because they're comparing air stewardesses. >> and of course there are more male pilots. >> and of course there are more male pilus. >> and of course there are more male pilus thinking about it. >> and of course there are more ma yes,lus thinking about it. >> and of course there are more ma yes, youthinking about it. >> and of course there are more ma yes, you you;ing about it. >> and of course there are more ma yes, you you want bout it. >> and of course there are more ma yes, you you want equal:. >> yes, you you want equal opportunities, but that doesn't mean always mean that the outcome is always going same. going to be the same. >> you have to take into account, you said, mean, account, as you said, i mean, women have babies. women are going to have babies. they're to think about they're going to think about different career prospects and ways of dealing with their lives. think it's lives. so i don't think it's just simple as pay you just about as simple as pay you the you, because you
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the same as you, because you want people equal want to give people equal opportunities. outcomes want to give people equal oppalways es. outcomes want to give people equal oppalwayses. to outcomes want to give people equal oppalways es. to be. utcomes are always going to be. >> and women want equal opportunities. make opportunities. they may make different one man's different choices if one man's being paid more. >> need to know. that's >> but we need to know. that's why we have to do the audit, because need have the because we need to have the figures order to those figures in order to make those decisions. >> yes, as as decisions. >> yes, as figures >> yes, as long as those figures are don't think are fairly, um, i don't think there'll enough people on there'll be enough people on this will skew the this who who will skew the figures unduly, it it figures unduly, but it just it just doesn't. >> it's how the scotland >> i mean, it's how the scotland mucked as well. mucked up its census as well. well thank you very much indeed mucked up its census as well. well thatime.u very much indeed for your time. >> laza. and of course, >> matthew laza. and of course, martin townsend. thank you. you've panel. you've been a fantastic panel. >> us. >> yeah. thanks for joining us. keep coming in keep those emails coming in tomorrow. we're back again. martin daubney next a martin daubney is next with a cracking miss it. cracking show. don't miss it. thanks joining yes stay. thanks for joining us. yes stay. a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. it's a wet and windy day out there. disruptive winds overnight as storm jocelyn moves in now storm
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jocelyn comes in just two days after storm esha is going to cause further impacts because of the ongoing repair and recovery work, but it is a notch down on what we saw with storm isha. i think overnight, the northern two thirds of the uk seeing gusts of 50 60mph, and for the north and west of scotland, the risk of 80 mile per hour wind gusts. so not quite as strong as esha, but the potential for some significant impacts. nevertheless, we're going to see the rain turn to showers overnight. the heaviest downpours be affecting downpours will be affecting scots and northern ireland further south. some clear spells nevertheless , a blustery start nevertheless, a blustery start for all us as we begin for all of us as we begin wednesday. decent bright wednesday. some decent bright weather there and the winds weather out there and the winds do start decrease through the do start to decrease through the morning and early part of the afternoon. soon we'll see further showers across scotland. some thunderstorms here and there, but actually there'll be some sunshine in between and for many it's a fine start to the afternoon. but for wales in the southwest, some rain turns up by the of the afternoon here.
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the end of the afternoon here. and it's going to be a mild day for all of us. now thursday starts off with the rain i mentioned just moving mentioned there, just moving northeast the country. a northeast across the country. a lot of cloud cover away from the northeast scotland and northeast of scotland and increasingly once again. increasingly breezy once again. friday will see a mix of sunny spells with some showers in the north on saturday. more wind and rain looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on .
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