gb news. >> good afternoon . it's 3 pm. >> good afternoon. it's 3 pm. welcome to the martin dalby show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk on today's show, despite the fact that rishi sunak urged the laws not to frustrate the will of the people and not oppose the government's rwanda plan , guess government's rwanda plan, guess what.7 as we predicted from the very beginning, the piers are already revolting . today i'll be already revolting. today i'll be asking the big question is it time to scrap the house of lords and the uk and us carried out a second round of airstrikes in yemen last night, but are we in danger of being sucked into another middle east conflict .7 another middle east conflict? and a day after storm isha hit the uk, many parts of the country are suffering from the effects of storm jostling. we'll have all the latest and the man who stabbed three people to death in nottingham last year has pleaded guilty to

manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to serious mental health illnesses. that's all coming in the next hour. that's all coming in the next hour . so that's all coming in the next hour. so welcome to the that's all coming in the next hour . so welcome to the show that's all coming in the next hour. so welcome to the show and thank you for joining hour. so welcome to the show and thank you forjoining me as thank you for joining me as even thank you for joining me as ever. and i want to hear from you today. the big debate is it time to junk the house lords? time to junk the house of lords? we they were going to we knew they were going to oppose as they did oppose rwanda just as they did with brexit. >> history is repeating itself. >> history is repeating itself. >> just their job to >> is it just their job to frustrate will of the people frustrate the will of the people ? is it time to get rid of these unelected elites? email me your views gbviews@gbnews.com. but first, it's time for your news headunes first, it's time for your news headlines with tatiana sanchez . martin. >> thank you. your top stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister says the uk will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks in the red sea . rishi attacks in the red sea. rishi sunak described attacks on

commercial ships by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unaccept all. it comes after last night's joint strike with the us , which took place after the us, which took place after a meeting with us president joe biden. mr sunak says new sanctions would be announced in the coming days and any further attacks will be deterred . attacks will be deterred. >> we are not seeking a confrontation . we urge the confrontation. we urge the houthis and those who enable them to stop these illegal and unacceptable attacks . but if unacceptable attacks. but if necessary , the united kingdom necessary, the united kingdom will not hesitate to respond again in self—defence . we cannot again in self—defence. we cannot stand by and allow these attacks to go unchallenged , and inaction to go unchallenged, and inaction is also a choice . is also a choice. >> the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says his party backs the government in its action. >> labour said we will judge further action on the houthis on a case by case basis, so let me be clear. we back this targeted action to reinforce maritime security in the red sea. the

houthi attacks must stop . they houthi attacks must stop. they are designed to destabilise us. so we must stand united and strong . they bring danger to strong. they bring danger to ordinary civilians working hard at sea . so we must protect them. at sea. so we must protect them. >> a man who killed three people in a spate of attacks in nottingham has had his not guilty plea accepted on the ground of diminished responsibility due to mental illness. 32 year old osvaldo carl heneghan , also known as carl heneghan, also known as adam mendez , instead pled guilty adam mendez, instead pled guilty to manslaughter in november. he killed varsity students barnaby weber and grace o'malley. kumar and school caretaker ian coates in june last year. he also admitted to trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks . fresh warnings are attacks. fresh warnings are being issued over an alarming rise in measles across europe. the world health organisation says the spread of the disease is accelerating in recent months, with more with a more

than 30 fold rise. a study by oxford university found that disinformation is part of the problem with i in 5 brits saying they think vaccine data is fake . they think vaccine data is fake. officials say the decline in maintaining routine childhood vaccinations is concerning . now, vaccinations is concerning. now, new research suggests a simple blood test could be just as effective at detecting alzheimer's disease as current practices, which are often painful and invasive, experts say . measuring levels of a say. measuring levels of a particular protein in blood samples could be an even better way to detect the condition than other tests currently in development . doctors say the development. doctors say the findings have the potential to revolutionise the experience of people who are suspected to be suffering from the disease . the suffering from the disease. the met office is warning of strong winds and heavy rain across the whole of the uk as another storm sweeps in. storm jocelin's battering britain with amber and yellow alerts issued for much of the country. see yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern scotland. no

eastern parts of scotland. no trains will be running in scotland from 7:00 tonight, with tomorrow's rush hour services also out of action. donald trump says he expects his last remaining republican opponent to drop out after today's new hampshire primary. polls point to a likely victory for the former president, but nikki haley has gained support and her exit is not guaranteed . anthony exit is not guaranteed. anthony scaramucci was mr trump's director of communications dunng director of communications during his time in the white house. he told gb news that he lacks the temperament to be an effective leader. there are 20 cabinet members that work for mr trump close loosely and directly alongside of myself. >> now, granted, i was there for ii >> now, granted, i was there for 11 days, but i did work for him for close to a year on the campaign and we all saw the same thing and we were all speaking out against his temperament to be the president of the united states. so things do change. uh, facts change and smart people

change their opinion. uh, when the facts change in entertainment news, the so—called bodenheimer phenomenon is dominating this year's oscars with an atomic bomb. >> epic up against a film about a doll in the battle for best picture . the nominations for the picture. the nominations for the 96th academy awards include 13 nods for oppenheimer by british director christopher nolan , with director christopher nolan, with cillian murphy up for best actor against bradley cooper for maestro . his co—star carey maestro. his co—star carey mulligan is also nominated for her performance in the leonard bernstein biopic bobby features strongly in other categories two though there was a major upset with star margot robbie and director greta gerwig both missing out . those are your top missing out. those are your top stories on gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now back to . martin. thank you tatiana.

to. martin. thank you tatiana. >> now we start with the house of lords trying to torpedo the government's flagship rwanda plans. quelle surprise . because plans. quelle surprise. because just as we predicted last week , just as we predicted last week, it's like brexit all over again . it's like brexit all over again. groundhog day, in fact, of those dark days of brexit towards the end and only a few days after rishi sunak urged peers not to frustrate the will of the people they backed an unprecedented move seeking to delay a treaty with rwanda that's intended to make the policy legally watertight . check out this watertight. check out this comment from former liberal democrat mp lord carlisle. >> i have been offended by criticism. some of it aimed at me and others who spoke out on the rwanda subject that we are unelected nobodies who are simply put here to obey the rule of the democrat elected house. my of the democrat elected house. my lords, that is not our role. >> one of our roles here is to protect democracy, sometimes to

protect democracy, sometimes to protect democracy, sometimes to protect democracy from itself . protect democracy from itself. >> well, lord carlisle caught himself an unelected nobody, not me. >> but the notion of protecting democracy from democracy itself. what on earth does that mean to make sense of it? i'm joined by our political editor, chris hope, and the author and journalist nick tyrone. >> welcome revolutionary martin, aren't you? >> look, fact of the >> well, look, the fact of the matter is, you don't need to be mystic.meg to have seen this one coming do you, coming down the line, do you, chris? they're trying their damnedest we knew damnedest to sync it as we knew they damnedest to sync it as we knew the yes. i mean, you know, he's >> yes. i mean, you know, he's there. lord carlisle. he's an eminent barrister. there. lord carlisle. he's an eminent barrister . um, yes. eminent barrister. um, yes. a former lib dem mp. now i think he's a crossbencher. now and what happened yesterday was mps voted on the international agreements . see. yes. agreements committee. see. yes. which essentially is a group of, of peers. they they decided that the rwanda bill um it mustn't be the rwanda bill um it mustn't be the treaty with rwanda must not be ratified until there are guarantees that rwanda is a safe destination for anyone flown here who arrives illegally by boat , um, here who arrives illegally by boat, um, that passed by

here who arrives illegally by boat , um, that passed by 214 boat, um, that passed by 214 171. come back to that in a second. what? this has no real beanng second. what? this has no real bearing at all on the rwanda bill we spoke about last week. that will happen in two weeks time. the government can ignore this ruling with a simple written ministerial statement saying, decision by saying, we note the decision by the house of lords, but, well, the house of lords, but, well, the numbers fascinating. the numbers are fascinating. 214 to those are the to 1 seven one. those are the numbers, whips are looking numbers, the whips are looking at now, because that is at right now, because that is the we have of the the first test we have of the opinion in the lords the opinion in the lords on the rwanda says to me rwanda bill. and that says to me they're trouble about the they're in trouble about the safety rwanda there safety of rwanda bill. there will amendments will be a lot of amendments tabled the like lord tabled by the like of lord carlile and the that will carlile and the rest that will try weaken it make try and weaken it and make it make even some make it not operable, even some would say it's weak enough already, although rishi sunak would going down a very would say he's going down a very narrow tightrope make sure narrow tightrope to make sure that right. doesn't that it's the right. it doesn't fall apart because rwandans fall apart because the rwandans won't it. but i think won't accept it. but i think those numbers, they will be watched very closely by watched very, very closely by the interesting about >> and what's interesting about this cross—party this is there is cross—party alignment labour, from alignment from the labour, from the , and indeed some the lib dems, and indeed by some of wets, as you might of the tory wets, as you might call them, who are broadly augned call them, who are broadly aligned the human of aligned with the human rights of refugees as opposed to the

electoral rights of britain. let's look at some names. let's look at some of the names. lord peter goldsmith, of course, tony attorney general tony blair's attorney general dunng tony blair's attorney general during the iraq war, great moral fibre there. baroness chakrabarti , one of corbyn's chakrabarti, one of corbyn's lot. so what i'm saying is, um, the people who are criticising rwanda, which may have its flaws, they kind of have their own flaws themselves, don't they? well everyone's got a pass, martin. >> uh, yeah, possibly. i mean, i think that there are the usual suspects. no question. peter goldsmith, an ambulance , uh, goldsmith, an ambulance, uh, solicitor now, was the attorney general during tony blair's time. justify the iraq, the time. and justify the iraq, the invasion of iraq in 2003 and was at the centre of that of that drama . um, shami chakrabarti, drama. um, shami chakrabarti, she of course, she ran liberty for a long time. she of course, she ran liberty for a longtime. um, she she of course, she ran liberty for a long time . um, she wrote a for a long time. um, she wrote a report on anti—semitism for, for jeremy corbyn and he's linked with his, with his time, the labour party . i mean, these are labour party. i mean, these are the usual people you might expect to be amending it. i think that this is what the lords does. revising lords does. it's a revising chamber. um, to hear lord carlile there that rather

entertaining quite entertaining clip. he's quite wounded, isn't he, by the criticism that criticism, um, that the government's that government's pretty clear that the elected will get its the elected chamber will get its way and it will get its way. what they're meant to is what they're meant to do is point out flaws legislation . point out flaws in legislation. >> river for lord >> yeah, cry is a river for lord carlile . carlile. >> nick, to bring you >> nick, i'd like to bring you in. nick now. so of in. nick tyrone now. so of course we perpetual course we have the perpetual conversation on on a on a cycle of doom . let's get rid of the of doom. let's get rid of the house of lords now, nigel farage led the charge night. led the charge last night. every single should be single one of them should be sacked. a bit harsh. there single one of them should be sacisome a bit harsh. there single one of them should be sacisome people bit harsh. there single one of them should be sacisome people int harsh. there single one of them should be sacisome people in there]. there single one of them should be sacisome people in there who are are some people in there who agree with nigel politically. um, like claire fox, for example. but what example. kate hoey. but what about this conversation of getting house of getting rid of the house of lords? because they do seem, at least people contacting this channel all channel seem to say all they seem frustrate the will seem to do is frustrate the will of people first. on brexit of the people first. on brexit and rwanda. and now on rwanda. >> well , it's and now on rwanda. >> well, it's a revising chamber. >> that's the point of it. and if you don't have you have if you don't have it, you have actually little check on actually very little check on the in this country. the executive in this country. the fact of matter is, is the fact of the matter is, is that british that the way the british constitute works would become that the way the british constitextremely would become that the way the british constitextremely unwieldy come either extremely unwieldy or possibly not even effective, not even workable without some sort

of chamber like the house of lords. >> okay, so you want to replace it with something else. >> you want to replace it with an chamber. so that it's >> you want to replace it with an elected.:hamber. so that it's all elected. >> well, then have a primacy >> well, then you have a primacy issue. have who is actually issue. you have who is actually there. live. issue. you have who is actually the you live. issue. you have who is actually the you have live. issue. you have who is actually the you have a live. issue. you have who is actually the you have a whole problem. >> you have a whole problem. >> you have a whole problem. >> there. >> there. >> so i agree that are >> so i agree that there are somemean, come >> i mean, i come from a background, i back in 2012 and i find this because find some of this funny because back in 2012 when i was saying, oh, you know, i working for oh, you know, i was working for the society the electoral reform society saying should, you saying we should we should, you know, it know, abolish the lords, etc. it was the right. was everybody on the right. >> it was all the tories saying, no, no, no, no, ho, >> it was all the tories saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and— no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and using all the and saying using all the arguments just about arguments i've just used about primacy, you know, primacy, about, you know, revising are revising chamber, etc, who are now abolish so now saying, let's abolish it. so i i think the thing i find, uh, i think the thing about the house of is when about the house of lords is when it's things you like and it's doing things you like and this the and left, this is on the right and left, i noficed this is on the right and left, i noticed this on the left all the time. >> you have sort of guardians who will say, you know, the who will say, oh, you know, the house terrible, house of lords is terrible, terrible, terrible. >> and then house of lords >> and then the house of lords will do will frustrate, will do something for something like this, for instance, them instance, and you'll have them all going, isn't wonderful? >> oh, the house of lords. >> oh, the house of lords. >> i remember back in the, in >> so i remember back in the, in the noughties when the labour

government supercasino. >> remember >> oh yeah. yeah. remember in blackpool >> oh yeah. yeah. remember in blackp blackpool into the las turned blackpool into the las vegas and it was vegas of the north. and it was the, laws have voted down the, the laws have voted it down and the church of england a and the church of england took a stand. think people stand. and i think many people across there's some unease about the gambling. then the issue of gambling. then i think they, they, almost think they, they, they almost backed think they, they, they almost baclad think they, they, they almost baci mean on rwanda, i think, >> i mean on rwanda, i think, you know, this is this is actually it or actually whether you like it or not, the house of not, sort of where the house of lords in. they've looked lords comes in. they've looked at something they've said this is bit i mean, frankly, is a bit dodgy. i mean, frankly, one of the things about the rwanda think rwanda bill is i don't think it's going do what says. it's going to do what it says. it does. >> think it will stop >> i don't think it will stop the boats. >> it's not, remarked >> also, it's it not, remarked upon. it's post—modern. upon. it's quite post—modern. >> know, rwanda is >> you know, rwanda is self—identifying and self—identifying as safe. and so we have its word for it. we have to take its word for it. >> you know, it's sort of slightly i'm slightly woke, actually. and i'm glad the holy glad you mentioned the holy connection bishop of connection because the bishop of gloucester out against gloucester spoke out against this, saying a few sheets of paper doesn't make rwanda safe. she's in 2015, she's a she's a peer. in 2015, the of gloucester said the bishop of gloucester said that isn't a he a she. that god isn't a he or a she. this, this this notion that god has pronouns. what put has pronouns. what i'll put to you mean we you is how does that mean we should any this should take any of this seriously? people have these seriously? if people have these political viewpoints don't

political viewpoints which don't seem and seem to chime with reality. and back point of first, the seem to chime with reality. and bacidon't point of first, the seem to chime with reality. and bacidon't like oint of first, the seem to chime with reality. and bacidon't like itnt of first, the seem to chime with reality. and bacidon't like it and first, the seem to chime with reality. and bacidon't like it and now , the seem to chime with reality. and bacidon't like it and now thee left don't like it and now the right it, it doesn't right don't like it, it doesn't that prove the that that prove the point that it's politicising that prove the point that it's pol no, ;ing that prove the point that it's pol no, actually, think does >> no, actually, i think it does the opposite. >> i think the fact that actually both left and right actually both the left and right dislike when it's not doing dislike it when it's not doing what to what they want it to do, actually of proves actually sort of proves its efficiency to some extent. you know, it actually it's know, it's it it actually it's not politicised not heavily politicised in that way, it's more way, or at least it's more politically balanced than i think people give it credit for. >> so it will often stop conservative >> so it will often stop conservativit's worth the >> i think it's worth for the conservative views of gb news. looking fact that we looking at the fact that we might be looking at very large might be looking at a very large labour and in fact, labour majority and in fact, one of checks something of the few checks on something that want to do that they might want to do that's and left that's quite radical and left wing house of lords, wing will be the house of lords, but doesn't that mean, though, chris, they chris, that they will they will stack people of their stack it full of people of their own political colours to make sure it their bias when sure that it has their bias when it do their bidding? it comes to do their bidding? >> got a majority >> they haven't got a majority now, so the 40% of the lords now, so the 40, 40% of the lords is conservative, but the is broadly conservative, but the interesting labour say they haven't got a majority in the lords the balance is lords because the balance is held crossbenchers held by crossbenchers and independent that's independent peers. and that's kind through . it's

kind of muddles through. it's a it's a solution because the problem, as ever, is even when you get when you a chat you get when you have a chat about monarchy , the about the monarchy, the alternative worse. mean, alternative is worse. i mean, the is an elected the alternative is an elected president, which really president, which isn't really where as a country. in where we are as a country. in the elected second the same way, an elected second chamber in conflict chamber would be in conflict with mps in the commons. it with with mps in the commons. it broadly martin, it's broadly works, martin, but it's got its problems. >> certainly got >> it certainly has got problems, and it's certainly got people there. you people going out there. can you have about hootie have a quick chat about hootie and the latest the middle and the latest in the middle east the debate? and the latest in the middle easthat's he debate? and the latest in the middle easthat's he deithere's >> that's right. there's a there's statement today from, there's a statement today from, from the prime minister about the attacks on, from the prime minister about the on attacks on, from the prime minister about the on by, cks on, from the prime minister about the on by, by oh, from the prime minister about the on by, by the on, from the prime minister about the on by, by the uk. from the prime minister about the on by, by the uk and on, on yemen by, by the uk and us and allies in the red sea . us and allies in the red sea. um, the concern that people have is that last week's attacks or week last friday was meant to be a one off. now last night was a one off. at what point is it doesit one off. at what point is it does it become a concern that there's no real democratic mandate for this? >> i think huti rebels listen to rishi sunak one offs. >> well, more it's more >> well, it's more it's more should mps get a say on should should mps get a say on this. there's a convention that mps do get a vote on military action overseas at famous

happenedin action overseas at famous happened in 2013, when the tory government lost a vote on this . government lost a vote on this. there's a there's a general debate tomorrow in house of debate tomorrow in the house of commons. liberal democrats debate tomorrow in the house of conpushing liberal democrats debate tomorrow in the house of conpushing forliberal democrats debate tomorrow in the house of conpushing for a)eral democrats debate tomorrow in the house of conpushing for a vote.democrats debate tomorrow in the house of conpushing for a vote. what'sats are pushing for a vote. what's interesting the interesting is whether the speaker might select any amendments to that to force a vote on it, and if there's a vote on it, and if there's a vote on it, how would how would labour vote? would all vote labour vote? would they all vote and behind this military and be behind this military action? because the tories certainly there's certainly would be. so there's an here, an element of risk here, i think, the labour party, think, for the labour party, if there's tomorrow. there's a vote tomorrow. >> nick, to you. um >> nick, final word to you. um keir was annoyed keir starmer was annoyed he didn't say in this. he didn't get a say in this. he wasn't we really didn't get a say in this. he wasn�*a we really didn't get a say in this. he wasn�*a vote we really didn't get a say in this. he wasn�*a vote before we really didn't get a say in this. he wasn�*a vote before we we really didn't get a say in this. he wasn�*a vote before we bomb ally terrorists? >> no, don't think we should. >> no, i don't think we should. and actually, uh, further on chris's point, though, however, i think it's in rishi i actually think it's in rishi sunak advantage sunak political advantage to throw of, uh, throw it to a house of, uh, throw it to a house of, uh, throw to house simply. throw it to the house simply. >> two reasons. >> i mean, for two reasons. >> i mean, for two reasons. >> one, it looks like he's being transparent actually transparent and two, it actually does obviously the does put labour obviously the frontbench and starmer will all vote for it. >> and it pass. >> and it will pass. >> and it will pass. >> the problem be you'll >> the problem will be you'll suddenly have bunch of rebels. suddenly have a bunch of rebels. >> it will, will. >> it will, it will, it will. >> it will, it will, it will. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you'll you'll be exposing the divides labour like divides within labour just like he was told 10 pm. last night. >> yeah. starmer he was told at

ten. his was told at ten ten. his office was told at ten with speaker of commons. with the speaker of the commons. but by then think the action but by then i think the action was underway. >> superb. we've to >> okay. superb. we've got to move chris obe move on. nick, tyrone chris obe excellent to the show. excellent start to the show. thank you very much. and on that same sunak said thank you very much. and on that san uk sunak said thank you very much. and on that san uk would sunak said thank you very much. and on that san uk would not sunak said thank you very much. and on that sanuk would not hesitate said thank you very much. and on that san uk would not hesitate to ;aid the uk would not hesitate to launch further airstrikes against houthi against the iran backed houthi rebels attacks on shipping rebels if attacks on shipping continued and raf jets took part in a second of joint us in a second wave of joint us action against the yemen based rebels last night. and i'm joined now by our home and security editor, mark white. mark, welcome to the show. we've been talking about this for so long yet it seems long now, and yet it seems inexorably, being dragged inexorably, we're being dragged towards in the middle east. towards war in the middle east. >> i think there was always a concern that those strikes on the 11th of january wouldn't do the 11th of january wouldn't do the trick in terms of deterring the trick in terms of deterring the houthi rebels from continuing to fire their missiles and their drones towards merchant shipping in the red sea and the gulf of aden , red sea and the gulf of aden, andindeedin. red sea and the gulf of aden, and indeed in . the 11 or so days

and indeed in. the 11 or so days since those initial strikes that the uk participated in, there have been around a dozen such attacks . and that's why the uk attacks. and that's why the uk decided that now was the right time to join the us again. the us had carried out about half a dozen more limited strikes on specific target s in response to some of those attacks targeting commercial shipping during that 11 day period . but the uk has 11 day period. but the uk has been assessing , along with its been assessing, along with its partners in washington, the command and control structures , command and control structures, the missile launch systems , the the missile launch systems, the munitions sites , the best way of munitions sites, the best way of trying to degrade the houthi capabilities. and that's why the decision was taken again to launch a bit larger scale strike similar to the strikes that were launched on the 11th of january. last night, involving, once again, those four raf typhoons that did . a 3000 plus mile round

that did. a 3000 plus mile round trip from um raf akrotiri in cyprus , uh, down to yemen to cyprus, uh, down to yemen to drop their bombs, and then, of course, to return to cyprus and i think the concern that people who really are worried about the potential for us being sucked into a more protracted conflict is, is are the comments from rishi sunak that they would not hesitate the british government, thatis hesitate the british government, that is , to strike again if the that is, to strike again if the houthis continue with their operations to target commercial shipping in that region and mark all this begs the question if we are dragged into a war, are we even equipped to fight it? >> we've got the lowest amounts of since the napoleonic era of army since the napoleonic era . um, we have lowest raf . um, we have the lowest raf count since it was formed in world war i, and we have air craft carriers sat idle in portsmouth harbour. >> well , it's portsmouth harbour. >> well, it's certainly a valid point. >> i think we are giving billions of pounds , as, um, most

billions of pounds, as, um, most would say, quite rightly, to ukraine, uh, in its efforts to try to stop the aggression of vladimir putin onto its territory . we have the armed territory. we have the armed forces , as you highlighted. forces, as you highlighted. there uh, in some real difficulty , a recruitment difficulty, a recruitment crisis. we've got , uh, frigates crisis. we've got, uh, frigates that are being scrapped . we've that are being scrapped. we've got two landing ships that the royal marines rely on that are likely to be laid up. um, on any sustained conflict is probably going to require a different solution to the one that the raf are carrying out valiantly at the moment. but really, um, flying 3000 plus miles to drop bombs and then return is not the best solution, really, to a sustained conflict. it might require a carrier strike group. it might require basing those raf jets a bit nearer to yemen. but again, those options are

limited . limited. >> and mark, do you think it's fanciful of david cameron and rishi sunak to assume that ? oh, rishi sunak to assume that? oh, a few quick bombing raids on houthi targets and this will all be over the houthis as you keep saying, don't to get saying, they don't seem to get that memo. >> no. and we've seen before, as we've spoken about on your program, the way the saudis in a coalition tried it, 2015, they tried to restore to the government of yemen , uh, back to government of yemen, uh, back to its rightful place . um, and they its rightful place. um, and they thought they could bomb the houthis into submission . that houthis into submission. that didn't work. and uh, several years later, it ended really in stalemate. so they are clearly battle hardened . they are battle hardened. they are determined, and they have enjoyed a resurgence in terms of whatever we might hear from rishi sunak and his counterparts in washington about this in norway being linked to the conflict in israel. well, the

houthis have made it about the conflict in israel . that's what conflict in israel. that's what they're saying publicly. and again, as i say, whatever the british and us governments might say about it, the populations in many arab countries perceive them as , you know, participating them as, you know, participating in a campaign in support of the palestinians in gaza . palestinians in gaza. >> mark white, excellent analysis as ever. thank you for joining us on the show. now, parts of the uk are being battered by a second storm in just 24 hours. i'm going to take you to one of the worst affected areas. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel

>> gb news is britain's election channel. >> earlier on breakfast, we are delighted to have in the studio a claimed royal biographer, robert hardman. >> first speech he did on the day after the queen died. when 52. when, when elizabeth ii came to the throne, we didn't hear her speak for ten months until her speak for ten months until her broadcast. was her christmas broadcast. he was on airwaves the next day. on the airwaves the next day. and speech, i think he just and that speech, i think he just it nailed it. just it sort of nailed it. he just said, what needed to be said. >> fact that the uk have >> the fact that the uk have felt it necessary the us felt it necessary to join the us again will fuel concerns that we are being dragged into a deeper conflict . conflict. >> every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join . us >> welcome back. it's 326. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. later this hour i'll speak to a

military expert who'll give his view on claims that russia thinks that the us wouldn't dare respond to a russian nuclear attack . now, a day after storm attack. now, a day after storm isha ripped through the uk, some parts of the country are being battered once again . this time battered once again. this time storm jocelyn has caused major disruptions . storm jocelyn has caused major disruptions. no trains were running in scotland after 7 pm, while rush hour services tomorrow morning have also been cancelled. i'm joined now by jack carson, who is in porthcawl in south wales. jack, i saw you earlier on. looked like you were just about hanging on to the cliff there. what's the latest? well i still feel like i'm hanging on martin. >> that's a fact. the wind really whipping up here on the promenade in porthcawl. paul. and what we've got now, because we've the we've got the. we've got the tide now . so we're tide coming in now. so we're getting sea foam coming getting all this sea foam coming off, off as it's off, uh, coming off as it's hitting the rocks here on the coastline . of we're coastline. but of course we're only getting around 45 to 50 mile an hour winds here on the coastline wales the moment coastline in wales at the moment that, of course, is as that, of course, is not as high

as what we're getting in parts of northern scotland there as what we're getting in parts of a orthern scotland there as what we're getting in parts of a more,1 scotland there as what we're getting in parts ofa more, not otland there as what we're getting in parts ofa more, not just|d there as what we're getting in parts ofa more, not just an there as what we're getting in parts ofa more, not just an amber1ere is a more, not just an amber alert like there is down here in, uh, or a yellow alert. sorry. here sorry. like there is down here in wales. for there's in wales. uh, for wind, there's an alert for 80 mile an an amber alert for 80 mile an hour winds in parts of northern scotland. and they are, of course, as high as what course, are not as high as what we saw with storm isha, where winds reached, uh, well in winds reached, uh, well over in some miles an hour. some cases 100 miles an hour. but the problem but certainly what the problem that we're going probably see that we're going to probably see as storm, uh, jocelyn hits as this storm, uh, jocelyn hits parts of the uk is that debris that we've seen around the uk that's caused by storm that's been caused by storm isha? course. that's loose isha? of course. that's loose debns isha? of course. that's loose debris fields, roads , in debris in fields, on roads, in towns and cities . and this now towns and cities. and this now wind is now gusting and blowing. all that debris back up into the air, which is why the met office, of course, have issued that danger to warning. that danger to life warning. now, jocelyn is the 10th now, storm jocelyn is the 10th named storm of the year. we only need two more storms between now and august for this to be, uh , and august for this to be, uh, the named that we've the most named storms that we've had on records. um, of course, they only name a storm when there is some kind of danger,

uh, to life. we have seen, uh, sadly, today, uh, just a couple of hours ago in bristol, sadly, today, uh, just a couple of hours ago in bristol , there of hours ago in bristol, there has been a lady and a man both taken to hospital with injuries after a, uh, somerset and avon constabulary confirmed a constabulary confirmed that a tree fallen in road, uh, tree had fallen in the road, uh, near bristol. so that's tree had fallen in the road, uh, near bristol . so that's showing tree had fallen in the road, uh, nea realstol . so that's showing tree had fallen in the road, uh, nea real impact» that's showing tree had fallen in the road, uh, nea real impact thatt's showing tree had fallen in the road, uh, nea real impact that thisiowing tree had fallen in the road, uh, nea real impact that this of/ing the real impact that this of course, storm having on the course, storm is having on the debns course, storm is having on the debris on places around the country. and you mentioned some of networks as of the transport networks as well. avanti well. martin. of course, avanti west coast and trans pennine really people not to really urging people not to travel england and travel between england and scotland this point . scotland from this point. basically today around 3:00, 330 onwards today , avanti west coast onwards today, avanti west coast telling uh, avoid passengers to try and avoid going anywhere north of preston. they have also warned passengers that are travelling from london on one of the trains glasgow today the last trains to glasgow today to, course, expect a very to, of course, expect a very busy service for some of the busy service and for some of the scotrail services there won't be any into , uh, any trains even into, uh, tomorrow morning. so particularly those transport particularly for those transport networks is going to be networks that is going to be a real problem. these yellow weather still in real problem. these yellow weath until still in real problem. these yellow weathuntil tomorrow still in real problem. these yellow weath until tomorrow afternoon. place until tomorrow afternoon. so what we're going to see overnight possibly, is these winds continue to whip up. might

be of debris. storm winds continue to whip up. might be really of debris. storm winds continue to whip up. might be really whipped bris. storm winds continue to whip up. might be really whipped up;. storm winds continue to whip up. might be really whipped up somem isha really whipped up some interesting outcomes didn't it? with some greenhouses on on train tracks as well as of course, the usual fallen trees. um, you may have seen earlier gb news viewers in northern ireland with dougie beattie with a tree over the artery over one of the main artery roads in and out of, in and out of so this causing of belfast. so this is causing real parts of real havoc across all parts of the as the wind really whips the uk as the wind really whips up a storm here porthcawl. up a storm here in porthcawl. now you make sure you say stay safe there. >> jack carson in porthcawl. it might be good viewers if you might be good for viewers if you get off the cliff, but it get blown off the cliff, but it won't be good for your career prospects. are you prospects. and how are you keeping on? is it keeping that hat on? is it velcro or gaffer tape? i think it's just i've got a big head, to martin, be honest. >> it's he's managed, he's managed to stay on pretty well. um, hat staying um, the bobble hat is staying strong, far. um, the bobble hat is staying strc good far. um, the bobble hat is staying strc good stuff. you stay safe . >> good stuff. you stay safe. jack anybody jack carson. indeed. anybody else there? safe in the else out there? stay safe in the storm has already been described as the stormy season this year. since records began. no doubt they'll claim it's climate

change. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00. in a few minutes we'll cross live to my home city of nottingham, where the man who stabbed three people to death last year has been in court today. people to death last year has been in court today . but been back in court today. but first is your latest news headunes first is your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> martin. thank you. 331 your top stories from the gb news room. the prime minister says the uk will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks in the red sea. rishi sunak described the attacks on commercial ships by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unacceptable. it comes after last night's joint strike with the us, which took place after a meeting with president biden. mr sunak says new sanctions would be announced in the coming days and any further attacks will be deterred . fresh warnings are deterred. fresh warnings are being issued over an alarming rise in measles across europe. the world health organisation says the spread of the disease

has accelerated in recent months , with a more than 30 fold rise. a study by oxford university found that disinformation is part of the problem with 1 in 5 brits saying they think vaccine data is fake. officials say the decline in maintaining routine childhood vaccinations is concerning . a man who killed concerning. a man who killed three people in a spate of attacks in nottingham has had his not guilty plea accepted on the ground of diminished responsibility mental responsibility due to mental illness. 32 year old valdo carl heneghan instead pled guilty to manslaughter in november. he killed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar and school caretaker ian coates in june last year . he caretaker ian coates in june last year. he also admitted to trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks . another storm is attacks. another storm is sweeping across britain, bringing fresh disruption for commuters. just a day after storm esha , the met office says storm esha, the met office says storm esha, the met office says storm jocelyn will bring strong winds with amber and yellow alerts issued for much of the country. yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place

across northern and eastern parts of scotland . transpennine parts of scotland. transpennine express is among several train operators warning of disruption . operators warning of disruption. it's urging passengers to avoid travelling between england and scotland. this afternoon . you scotland. this afternoon. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gb news.com . gb news.com. >> for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . the gb news financial report. >> here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2685 and ,1.1685. the price of gold is £1,596, and £0.08 per ounce, and the ftse 100 . at 7497 points. 100. at 7497 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial

report . report. >> thank you, tatiana , a man who >> thank you, tatiana, a man who killed three people in nottingham last june , has had nottingham last june, has had his not guilty plea accepted on the grounds of diminished responsibility due to mental illness. valdo coloccini stabbed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar and also school caretaker ian coates . our east midlands coates. our east midlands reporter will hollis is outside nottingham crown court will welcome to the show . this case welcome to the show. this case has really got people talking. what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> yes, well these killings have been described in court today as uncompromising and brutal. but today prosecution at nottingham crown court has accepted those pleas under the grounds of diminished responsibility . they diminished responsibility. they are plead guilty to manslaughter, not guilty to murder as well as guilty to

attempted murder. now of course, those are for the 219 year old students at the university of nottingham, grace o'malley kumar and barnaby webber, but also nottingham school caretaker ian coates. and on the grounds of diminished responsibility because valda o'callaghan , who because valda o'callaghan, who also goes by the name of adam mendez, who was here in the dock dressed in a smart suit, wearing glasses, has been diagnosed with having paranoid schizophrenia in the hours before the attacks . it the hours before the attacks. it is said that he had a phone conversation with his brother where he said he was hearing voices in his head. 24 over seven. now prosecution's say he went out into nottingham that night with intent to kill a rucksack full of weapons, and it is a double edged dagger which he used to kill his victims , he used to kill his victims, something that he did relentlessly . he, being multiple relentlessly. he, being multiple times. now, we've heard those

really graphic and distressing details today. the family of all of the victims were in court. and of course, those those details were at times really difficult to hear. there was not only crying, but there was small outbursts at times directed towards kalakani . we have to towards kalakani. we have to wait now for a sentencing which is coming in the next couple of days , either tomorrow or on days, either tomorrow or on thursday. but this is truly not just a case which has shocked nottingham, but a case which has shocked britain . yeah, well, shocked britain. yeah, well, hollis , absolutely. hollis, absolutely. >> um, i find this case really hard to get my head around. in fact , um, ian hard to get my head around. in fact, um, ian coates, he was killed on a street behind where i grew up. um, greatly , greatly i grew up. um, greatly, greatly affected, as you said, not just the citizens of nottingham, but the citizens of nottingham, but the citizens of all of the united kingdom. this is a live case. so we can't comment too much. but grace's brother, james

is just a 17 year old lad, said this . i will is just a 17 year old lad, said this. i will never is just a 17 year old lad, said this . i will never forgive is just a 17 year old lad, said this. i will never forgive him. he's taken away my older sister and one day when my parents are gone, i'm now going to be left on my own. i won't have my sister , my future children won't sister, my future children won't have an aunt and they won't have cousins . okay, an investigation cousins. okay, an investigation by gb news has revealed books of stamp s bought from post office and some local supermarkets have been deemed counterfeit. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel

people's channel, britain's news channel. >> welcome back . it's 341. >> welcome back. it's 341. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news a 4:00. i'll have more on the house of lords trying to delay the rwanda plan. of course . now the rwanda plan. of course. now an investigation by gb news has revealed books of stamps bought from post office and from some local supermarkets have been deemed to be counterfeit . it's deemed to be counterfeit. it's seen people being charge £5 by the royal mail to get their post after senders unknowingly used the fake stamps , and that's four the fake stamps, and that's four times the cost of a standard first class stamp. of course , a first class stamp. of course, a spokesman from the post office has said. post office limited receives its stamps direct from royal mail secure printers. customers who buy stamps at post offices are given an itemised receipt , and offices are given an itemised receipt, and this will be

required to investigate any allegations of fake stamps . allegations of fake stamps. well, joining us now in the studio is gb news digital finance editorjessica studio is gb news digital finance editor jessica sheldon, who's got the story. jessica, welcome to the show. a fantastic exclusive . well done. tell me exclusive. well done. tell me the big question is who was supplying these stamps and how did the post office not know that they were getting dodgy stamps to sell? >> hi martin, we have heard from people all over the country who have been buying stamps at different places such as post office, shops with post offices within them and local supermarkets. >> now it's hard to tell the difference between them. there is some slight differences if you know that they are different, but the texture is slightly different on the qr code. slightly different on the qr code . but you wouldn't realise code. but you wouldn't realise until you've realised that these are counterfeit. yeah i mean they look basically identical

right down to the little barcodes and the barcode . barcodes and the barcode. >> the bit that goes beep to get scanned is meant to be the bit that keeps you safe. but tell me, how did this story come to your attention? >> so news readers and >> so gb news readers and viewers with viewers got in touch with us, um, that they had bought um, saying that they had bought these from post office or these stamps from post office or small shops , um, small small shops, um, small supermarkets . and so we decided supermarkets. and so we decided to investigate it. >> it's a superb example of people power on that, on that bafic people power on that, on that basic principle fantastically well done, jessica. you know, viewers wrote in to you, you took action, you cracked on with it. you've got some sort of resolution. but what can people do? i mean, as you said , if do? i mean, as you said, if people, particularly businesses have been using these stamps to send out stuff to their customers , customers, again, customers, customers, again, getting whacked with a £5 fine, that's damaging to their reputation. what are the post office hoping to do about that ? office hoping to do about that? >> well, um, if you're affected, the advice is to complain to royal mail and citizens advice is, um, when you're buying items

aims ideally always get a receipt for proof of purchase . receipt for proof of purchase. um, now royal mail did say that they are investigating this. they said it's vital we can investigate any instance where a person believes their stamps have been incorrectly identified as counterfeit or pre—used , and as counterfeit or pre—used, and they did add though, that unfortunately, without seeing all of the envelopes used, it would be impossible to explain what happened in these cases. but we will always happily review individual cases and if an error has been made, then we will of course correct it . will of course correct it. >> do you have pictures of these stamps? we could have a look. we got them. we do spot the difference. >> yeah. so if i kind of hold them up, zoom on that is them up, they zoom in on that is an of, of um some an example of, of um some counterfeit stamps . counterfeit stamps. >> all right. so basically i saw these stamps and they're on the gb news. com website and they are basically ident will be very, very hard to tell the difference. i think if you run your thumb across them, there's a slight textural difference. but ostensibly they're completely the same. people

wouldn't have scooby doo if wouldn't have a scooby doo if they bought them. and in fact they bought them. and in fact the post office themselves are selling question again selling them. the question again , earth dodgy stamps , how on earth did dodgy stamps get into the post office's ? yes get into the post office's? yes we we're hoping to get get more detail on this. >> we're currently encouraging anyone who's been affected to get in touch with us via money at gb news. .uk >> okay, superb. once again, a great exclusive. jessica sheldon and that's gb news. com's digital finance editor. well done. great bit of people power. and if you've been affected by that, drop us a line. we'll do all we can to help and to see the full investigation. scan the qr code on the screen. right now it's on the bottom right. you can see it there go to can see it there to go to gbnews.com. now russia's gb news.com. now russia's willingness gbnews.com. now russia's willingness to deploy nuclear weapons in a potential war with nato is said to be increasing. as vladimir putin believes that the states and its allies the united states and its allies would not dare to retaliate. and this is according to reports produced by the international institute for strategic studies,

which warns that the us will be unwilling to cross the nuclear threshold and may terminate the conflict early. they state that the russian perception of the lack of credible western will to use nuclear weapons , or to use nuclear weapons, or to accept casualties in conflict, further reinforce us. russia's aggressive nuclear thoughts and doctor dean. it's included . doctor dean. it's included. well, i can now speak with former british army officer and the former commander officer of the former commander officer of the uk's joint chemical , the uk's joint chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear regiment, hamish de bretton—gordon. welcome to the show, hamish. wow, what a fantastic cv you've got. the big question is, do they have a point? there seems to be a feeling that the west is sitting back. it's in, it's in a war, a land far away. and particularly joe biden has been criticised as not having the teeth to respond. if russia were to go nuclear first. >> well, i think it's the first thing that the russians always dive to when they're, you know,

performing badly and that is what's happening. >> i mean, today is a very symbolic day in the nuclear calendar. the doomsday clock has just been reset. the doomsday clock was initiated . in 1947 clock was initiated. in 1947 when a nuclear weapons first appeared. >> and at 90s to midnight, appeared. >> and at 90s to midnight , those >> and at 90s to midnight, those experts who set it believed that we were in the greatest threat of nuclear war ever, including the cold war. but i think we need to put this into perspective from the very get go of putin's illegal invasion of ukraine on the 24th of february, 2022, he threatened to use nuclear weapons , um, on the hope nuclear weapons, um, on the hope that nato would stay out of the conflict and he could roll through ukraine in two weeks. now, that didn't happen . and now, that didn't happen. and each time he threatens nuclear weapons actually , nato and the weapons actually, nato and the us give more and more weapons and ammunition to ukraine. i think it's a show of desperation

from the russians at the moment. but but it is also the west's approach to nuclear weapons is what we call strategic ambiguity. we never say exactly what we're going to do . and what we're going to do. and really, that's what what putin is trying to use for leverage. but, um , yeah, i think a but, um, yeah, i think a tactical nuclear weapon used by russia to stave off defeat in ukraine, it might not elicit a nuclear response from the uk and the us , but an overwhelming the us, but an overwhelming conventional response within shu. i'm sure your and hamish just to be clear, this is non strategic nuclear bombs. >> it's not hiroshima or nagasaki, it's not flattening entire countries or cities . it's entire countries or cities. it's smaller localised bombs with the with the inkling that america wouldn't respond in kind. and a kremlin official said here that america wouldn't be prepared to sacrifice say boston for say , sacrifice say boston for say, poznan. so they wouldn't get an international response to a

localised first attack. what's your take on that ? your take on that? >> well, again, i think this is semantics coming out of russia . semantics coming out of russia. we call it a battlefield nuclear weapon. i mean, these nuclear weapons that the russians are talking about still have the yield of hiroshima and nagasaki . yield of hiroshima and nagasaki. so they are massive explosions . so they are massive explosions. they are not the intercontinental ballistic missiles that would take out a city like, you know, leeds or birmingham, that sort of size. >> so , sure, no one wouldn't >> so, sure, no one wouldn't expect the russians to fire a strategic nuclear weapon in response to a battlefield weapon being used. >> but , um, it being used. >> but, um, it is no secret that us tactical nuclear weapons are coming back to the uk. so it is possible that the russians could fire, uh, rather the ukraine or the americans could fire a tactical nuclear weapon in response. but i think what they would do, and i'm sure what the uk and nato would support would be an overwhelming convention

response, which would have the same impact. so i think this is more hot air coming out of moscow , really showing that moscow, really showing that things are getting desperate. they're running out of ideas, but , um, people, although they're running out of ideas, but, um, people, although this is an auspicious day in the nuclear calendar , i don't think nuclear calendar, i don't think people should be overly concerned that we're about to step into a nuclear conflict with russia . with russia. >> yeah, you've just answered my next question for me there, because hamish , because i don't because hamish, because i don't want people to be absolutely petrified , tried to live their petrified, tried to live their lives . there is a lot of bluster lives. there is a lot of bluster coming out of the kremlin, and nuclear arsenal is the ultimate piece of bluster. but do you think is actually likely? think this is actually likely? >> well , i think this is actually likely? >> well, i think what has been illustrated by the doomsday clock now at 90s to midnight, is that there is an awful lot of , that there is an awful lot of, uh, really nasty things happening in the world at the moment. and iran, that's the centre of most of it, now has weapons grade uranium, though

that would enable it to make nuclear weapons. we know north korea is very close to being able to produce nuclear weapons. so when you put all that together, the turmoil in the middle east, you put together putin, who's desperate to hang to on power. and also, let's not forget, he has a sham election coming up, and he's trying to show what a what a strong, powerful leader he is. so i think it is absolutely key that our leaders in this country , in our leaders in this country, in the states and nato are absolutely on the balls of the feet and realise that this is the most important thing. they must get right, despite all the other things vexing us at the moment . moment. >> okay. thank you for that expert hamish de expert analysis, hamish de bretton—gordon, thank you very much look much. now, something to look forward to later today on gb news we'll be hearing from katharine birbalsingh , the head katharine birbalsingh, the head teacher north london, who of teacher in north london, who of course fighting a legal course is fighting a legal challenge her school's ban on challenge to her school's ban on prayer rituals taken by a muslim pupil. the woman , who's been pupil. the woman, who's been branded britain's strictest headteacher , has spoken to headteacher, has spoken to

patrick christys and has defended the ban . defended the ban. >> we all need to recognise is that all of us need to make sacrifices for the betterment of the whole, so that we can all get on, and that schools play such an important part of this . such an important part of this. >> now, obviously, if your school is one where the children roam the corridors and the children do whatever they like dunng children do whatever they like during lunch , then i suppose you during lunch, then i suppose you might to have a prayer might choose to have a prayer room and that's you know, room and that's fine. you know, i'm not suggesting that all schools prayer schools shouldn't have a prayer room, if room, but i do think that if a school's such and school's ethos is such and building is such that they cannot have a prayer room, then they be to not they should be allowed to not have room . have a prayer room. >> i'm delighted now to be >> well, i'm delighted now to be joined christys joined by patrick christys patrick. fantastic interview as evenl patrick. fantastic interview as ever, i expect no less than for you. a talismanic battle being fought here. yeah, absolutely. >> battle being fought in >> a battle being fought in a school in london, but one that will actually have far reaching consequences for our country as a . tonight on my show, i'm a whole. tonight on my show, i'm going talking about the going to be talking about the death threats intimidation death threats and intimidation and at that

and racism that teachers at that school where these school have faced, where these threats are actually coming from. >> okay . is it pupils from. >> okay. is it pupils in the school? is it hard hitting external pressures ? more? is it external pressures? more? is it going to be talking about the increased radicalisation in schools? very schools? she's said some very revealing gave revealing stuff there. she gave me of the school. i had me a tour of the school. i had lunch the pupils, so i've lunch with the pupils, so i've got all that to report back on. what in what it was actually like in britain's school. britain's strictest school. but why down and why she's not backing down and why she's not backing down and why trying to give why actually trying to give in or a desire to give in to an extremist few would negatively affect the masses and be a bad thing for multiculturalism. there is so much to go out tonight on my show 9 to 11 pm. tonight on my show 9 to 11 pm. tonight with that really long form sit down interview with britain's strictest headteacher as a battle that many as she fights a battle that many of others have just shied away from. >> okay, patrick, chris is very quickly. how is she doing? is she okay? >> she is okay. >> she is okay. >> a lot teachers there are >> a lot of teachers there are incredibly intimidated and scared, believe firmly scared, but they believe firmly that they're on the right side of history. >> i think that people, >> and i think that most people, when see the interview when they see the interview later agree. later on, will agree. >> okay. thank you very much.

later on, will agree. >> (you. thank you very much. later on, will agree. >> (you canank you very much. later on, will agree. >> (you can see you very much. later on, will agree. >> (you can see the very much. later on, will agree. >> (you can see the full much. and you can see the full interview tonight on patrick interview tonight on the patrick christys show from nine, which is talks about is in bourbois singh talks about the staff have come the threats of staff have come under legal action under following legal action taken now only a few days after rishi sunak urged lords not to frustrate the of people frustrate the will of the people , they backed an unprecedented move seeking a treaty move seeking to delay a treaty with rwanda that's intended to make the policy legally watertight . we saw this one watertight. we saw this one coming down like a slow moving train. we didn't have the mystic meg. the lords once again are revolting and we'll have all of that in the next two hours. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on gb solar, sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> hi there, it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. it's a wet and windy day out there. disruptive winds overnight right as storm jocelyn moves in now. storm jocelyn coming just two days after storm esha is going

to cause further impacts because of the ongoing repair and recovery work. but it is a notch down on what we saw with storm isha. i think overnight, the northern two thirds of the uk seeing gusts of 5060 miles an houn seeing gusts of 5060 miles an hour, for and the north and west of scotland, the risk of 80 mile per hour wind gusts. so not quite as strong as esha, but the potential for some significant impacts. nevertheless, we're going to see the rain turn to showers overnight. the heaviest downpours will be affecting scotland northern ireland. scotland and northern ireland. further south. some clear spells . nevertheless, a blustery start for all of us as we begin wednesday . some decent bright wednesday. some decent bright weather there the winds wednesday. some decent bright we start there the winds wednesday. some decent bright we start to there the winds wednesday. some decent bright we start to decrease the winds wednesday. some decent bright we start to decrease throughinds wednesday. some decent bright we start to decrease through the do start to decrease through the morning and early part of the afternoon. we'll see further showers across scotland , some showers across scotland, some thunderstorms here and there, but actually there'll be some sunshine in between . and for sunshine in between. and for many it's a fine start to the afternoon. but for wales in the southwest, some rain turns up by the end of the afternoon here. and going to be a mild day and it's going to be a mild day for of us now. thursday for all of us now. thursday starts off with the rain i

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gb news. >> good afternoon. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across uk. westminster. all across the uk. and few minutes i'll speak and in a few minutes i'll speak to labour mp john to former labour mp john woodcock. he's now lord walney in the house of lords. we've got lots to get stuck into in this houn lots to get stuck into in this hour. first up, rishi sunak also urged the lords not to frustrate the will of the people and not oppose the government's rwanda plan. but guess what? the peers are already revolting . the uk are already revolting. the uk and us carried out a second round of airstrikes in yemen last night , round of airstrikes in yemen last night, but are we in danger of being sucked into yet another conflict in the middle east? and almost eight years after brexit, is germany set to be the next nafion is germany set to be the next nation to leave the european union ? that's all coming in your union? that's all coming in your next hour . so i've got a lord

union? that's all coming in your next hour. so i've got a lord in the studio. we're going to put to him. should the house of lords be abolished. that's the conversation. that's kicked off once again with echoes of brexit. after the attempts to derail the rwanda bill in the house of lords that got voted down, we're expecting endless delays on that email with your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . martin middlehurst. martin >> thank you and good afternoon. well the top story from the gb newsroom today is that the prime minister says the uk will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks in the red sea . rishi attacks in the red sea. rishi sunak described attacks on commercial shipping by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unacceptable . it illegal and unacceptable. it comes after last night's joint airstrikes with the united states , which took place after states, which took place after a meeting with president biden, the labour leader , sir keir the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says he backs the

government's targeted action and mr sunak signalled new sanctions to be announced in the coming days, warning further attacks will be deterred. >> we are not seeking a confrontation . we urge the confrontation. we urge the houthis and those who enable them to stop these illegal and unacceptable attacks. yes but if necessary, the united kingdom will not hesitate to respond again in self—defence . we cannot again in self—defence. we cannot stand by and allow these attacks to go unchallenged in action is also a choice . also a choice. >> the prime minister, speaking earlier . now >> the prime minister, speaking earlier. now the four people who were found dead at a house in norwich have been identified. two adults have been named as 45 year old bartolomei . kutchinsky year old bartolomei. kutchinsky and 36 year old cantika sukh p&o. meanwhile two young girls were also named as yasmin and natasha cook . their were also named as yasmin and natasha cook. their bodies were discovered at an address in kc, south norfolk , on friday south norfolk, on friday

morning. police are continuing their investigation , and a man their investigation, and a man who killed three people in a spate of attacks in nottingham has had his not guilty plea accepted on the grounds of diminished response ability due to mental illness . this 32 year to mental illness. this 32 year old waldo callachan, also known as adam mendes, insisted that he pleaded guilty to manslaughter in november. he killed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar and school caretaker ian coates in june last year. he also admitted trying to murder three other pedestrians who were hit by a van on the same morning as those attacks . fresh warnings those attacks. fresh warnings are being issued over an alarming rise in the cases of measles across europe. the world health organisation says the spread of the disease has accelerated in recent months, with a more than 30 times caseload being reported than last year . a study by oxford last year. a study by oxford university found that disinformation is part of the

problem, with 1 in 5 brits thinking vaccine data is fake. officials say the decline in routine vaccinations is concerning. doctor tamara keith told gb news that getting the jab is the only way to protect children . children. >> measles is not just a fever with a rash, it can cause all sorts of complications. it can give your child seizures , give your child seizures, pneumonia. they can end up in hospital and in the very worst cases it can actually prove fatal. and i'm not saying that to scare people , but with to scare people, but with a simple vaccination given to your child, you can protect them against measles. and so that really is the best thing you can do . the met office is warning of do. the met office is warning of strong winds and heavy rain across the whole of the uk today, as another storm barrels in storm josslyn is battering britain at the moment with amber and yellow alerts issued for much of the country . much of the country. >> yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern parts of scotland . no trains will be scotland. no trains will be running in scotland from 7:00

tonight, with tomorrow's rush hour services also out of action. while scotrail checks the lines for damage in the united states , donald trump says united states, donald trump says he expects his last remaining republican opponent to drop out after today's new hampshire primary polls point to a likely victory for the former president, but nikki haley has gained support and her exit isn't guaranteed. anthony scaramucci was mr trump's director of communications dunng director of communications during his time in the white house, and he told gb news earlier that he lacks the temperament to be an effective leader. there are 20 cabinet members that work for mr trump close loosely and directly alongside of myself. >> now, granted, i was there for 11 days, but i did work for him for close to a year on the campaign and we all saw the same thing and we were all speaking out against his temperament to be the president of the united states. so things do change. uh, facts change and smart people change their opinion. uh, when

the facts change, now , i don't the facts change, now, i don't know if you've heard of the doomsday clock. >> basically, it's the time that we've got left on this earth before humans . he destroys the before humans. he destroys the earth . well, it's remained at earth. well, it's remained at 90s to midnight for a second yearin 90s to midnight for a second year in a row. you'll be pleased to hear it means the bulletin of the atomic scientists believe the atomic scientists believe the threat of a global apocalypse has not receded in the past 12 months, though it is only symbolic. the clock is meant to show how close the world is to an existential catastrophe . the clock's keepers catastrophe. the clock's keepers cite the wars in ukraine and gaza, as well as the earth experiencing its hottest year on record as causes of concern . and record as causes of concern. and we'll carry on tonight, then, this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> thank you paulie. now we start with the house of lords

trying to torpedo though the government's flagship rwanda plans. and just as we predicted last week, it's like brexit all over again. the dark days of brexit indeed , because only brexit indeed, because only a few days after rishi sunak urged peers not to frustrate the will of the people they backed an unprecedented move seeking to delay a treaty with rwanda that's intended to make the policy legally watertight. check out this comment from former liberal democrat mp lord carlisle . carlisle. >> i have been offended by criticism , some of it aimed at criticism, some of it aimed at me and others who spoke out on the rwanda subject that we are unelected nobodies who are simply put here to obey the rule of the democratically elected house. >> my lords, that is not our role. one of our roles here is to protect democracy, sometimes to protect democracy, sometimes to protect democracy from itself . if the vanguard of democracy ,

. if the vanguard of democracy, they're now joined by our political editor, christopher hope, and also former labour mp and john woodcock, who now sits in the house of lords as lord walney . walney. >> welcome to both of you, choppen >> welcome to both of you, chopper. let's start with you. we did predict this like a slow moving train that would run us over and here we are once again , over and here we are once again, people asking the question, what's the house of lords for? it seems set up to frustrate the will of the people . first will of the people. first brexit, now rwanda or improve legislation coming from the house of commons. >> that's what allies would say of the house of lords. the vote last night was on something called international called a report in international agreements which agreements committee, which which the motion that which passed the motion that requires the government possibly to hold off ratifying the treaty with rwanda to allow the flights to take off and take people arriving legally back to arriving here legally back to rwanda until until a safe rwanda until until it's a safe place that passed by 214 to place that was passed by 214 to 171. now, what i find interesting and what the government whips are looking at, is that number, because that number suggests to me there was a change to the

a majority for change to the actual safety of rwanda bill, when it comes back in front of them which them in two weeks time, which will that bill having its, will see that bill having its, its, guts ripped out its, its guts ripped out properly by amendments by peers and then reinstated by the commons, who are are facing commons, who are we are facing a kind constitutional tug of kind of constitutional tug of war the next few weeks. war in the next few weeks. >> i like i should now >> i feel like i should now pivot to um john woodcock , pivot to you. um john woodcock, lord walney. so um, a lot of people are saying, what's the point of the lords? is it merely to frustrate the will of people ? to frustrate the will of people? may i ask you, how did you vote in this amendment? >> i voted in favour of the amendment . >> i voted in favour of the amendment. um, it's not going to please many of your viewers, i would imagine, to hear. >> could i ask you why? what's the intent ? the intent? >> the broader thing is, i think the house of lords has been put in a really difficult position by the government here because they are constitutionally there as a checking house to check that the intent of the government is going to be met properly and that the law is

upheld and ministers themselves have been really open and trying to appeal to parts of, you know, the fringe of their own party in saying that it is touch and go in their own view, that the law this is actually constitutionally within the law, what they're trying to do. so the law lords with whom i sit as a crossbench peer, are looking at this and saying, well, look, we have to actually be able to point out the flaws in it. yesterday was a particular thing to say that this is what the government has set out in terms of its own safeguards in in the bill, it's serious about it, bill, if it's serious about it, it ought to be able to bring these these in alongside the, uh, the treaty. but i recognise that this is not how that this is not exactly how it's been portrayed by, um , some it's been portrayed by, um, some of the people who want to just rail this through. >> that's right. if we can agree that rwanda flaws, some of that rwanda has flaws, some of the people revolt the people leading the revolt also have flaws, though, don't they? lord peter goldsmith, he was tony blair's attorney general during the iraq war.

baroness chakrabarti , one of baroness chakrabarti, one of corbyn's mob. so hardly the moral bastions of the nation. well um , um shami chakrabarti well um, um shami chakrabarti probably wouldn't, um, be grateful if i started defending her moral character, given that the history you've had over the over the corbyn years . over the corbyn years. >> but i think the important thing it was that there was there was a majority, see, on this and i think to the house of lords credit, there are a broad a very significant number of people in the middle who do look at the constitutional implication means look at the long tum picture and feel duty bound to vote with what they believe is right in those circumstances , even if, um , it circumstances, even if, um, it can really enrage people in the short time, i suppose. >> shami chakrabarti ran liberty for all those years. peter goldsmith was attorney general under tony blair. so the point about the lords is, is the huge range of expertise . um, yeah, in

range of expertise. um, yeah, in part some it can be controversial. like chakrabarti support for jeremy corbyn and the rest. but yeah, equally this is why we have a house of lords to have these, these different expertise in people to try and amend and change. >> john, inevitably, inexorably , >> john, inevitably, inexorably, people today, well, people are saying today, well, what's the house of what's the point of the house of lords if all does is lords if all it does is frustrate the will of the people? farage, no less people? nigel farage, no less so, all so, and they should all be sacked, even know for sacked, even though i know for a fact likes the view them. fact he likes the view of them. but the fact of the matter is, people want to people do feel, and i want to correct if i'm wrong, that correct me if i'm wrong, that the lords seems to be a blocking factor of the factor to allow the vote of the people brexit, and that now rwanda , of course people didn't rwanda, of course people didn't get rwanda, you get a vote on rwanda, but you take my it's like people get a vote on rwanda, but you take to it's like people get a vote on rwanda, but you take to control it's like people get a vote on rwanda, but you take to control ourlike people get a vote on rwanda, but you take to control our borders.)le get a vote on rwanda, but you take to control our borders. the want to control our borders. the lords seen lords is being seen to frustrate. does it frustrate. that does it does it kind of upset you and people fire a blunderbuss at the house of like this or is that of lords like this or is that part no, it part of the game? no, it doesn't, completely doesn't, and i completely understand views and understand those those views and part of it does not by necessity come with the territory , because come with the territory, because the lord is there as a mechanism to ask the house of commons to

think again . think again. >> i mean, sometimes and i think brexit is an example of this. it pushed that to beyond its useful, beyond its useful limit. now, i think if you ask the public, do they want a bunch of unelected lords and baronesses, um, making decisions on their behalf as they see it, they will probably say no, but then if you ask them the alternative question of, well, do want question of, well, do you want a new class of politicians? do you want a new set of elections here? then i don't think there's any appetite for that. and it's not simply because i've now been put in there and hopefully in there for some time. i did have this i was in the this view when i was in the house of commons as elected, that actually be that actually it would be a mistake to set a rival to the mistake to set up a rival to the house of commons and end up with a system in perpetual gridlock as you can see in other places like the united states, that have two elected chambers. but we're about to enter that dreaded perpetual dreaded state of perpetual deadlock ping deadlock now, the dreaded ping pong , not perpetual. i mean,

pong, not perpetual. i mean, thatis pong, not perpetual. i mean, that is that is the point. now um, we are talking at most of a couple of months, i suppose , um, couple of months, i suppose, um, if the if the commons election defining for rishi sunak with the general election so close, so my next point is all these concerted attempts to derail, if they are that by the liberal democrats, by the labour, by anybody who doesn't like the conservatives and even some of the conservatives themselves, could politically could that be used politically to try and damage rishi with a view for that general election? >> week? is >> every, every week? this is delayed. causing political delayed. it's causing political damage conservative delayed. it's causing political damagwell conservative delayed. it's causing political damagwell is conservative delayed. it's causing political damagwell is itzonservative delayed. it's causing political damagwell is it though?:ive party. well is it though? >> i mean, think if i were a >> i mean, i think if i were a cc, a conservative head office strategist, i might be thanking my lucky stars that they now have some unelected lords. um, that nobody's that good friend. good luck pal. yeah they now have an opponent rather than what has been happening over the recent months. >> is they've been killing themselves and actually actually destroying the merit of the policy in public's by

policy in the public's eyes by criticising . criticising. >> what do you think? well, what's what's your advice what's your what's your advice to colleagues in the lords? do you think they should tear it apart and force to apart and force the mps to reinstate elements of or do reinstate elements of it, or do you questions about the you risk questions about the legitimacy house lords legitimacy of the house of lords if so, i think i hope if you do so, i think i hope that they will be really narrow and focussed in the area where actually you have a conflict with with the rule of law and with with the rule of law and with treaties, international treaties that we've already already signed an international obligations, because i do think it incumbent upon the it is incumbent upon the government it genuinely government that if it genuinely only wants abrogate from some only wants to abrogate from some of these long standing treaties , of these long standing treaties, then it needs to say we no longer agree with this. >> and take the debate and the consequences rather than railing >> and take the debate and the consequ somethinger than railing >> and take the debate and the consequ somethinger thait railing >> and take the debate and the consequ somethinger thait knows through something that it knows is actually probably to is actually probably going to fall of those things. okay. fall foul of those things. okay. >> lalwani, having grilled you on very existence, let's do on your very existence, let's do something more polite and something a bit more polite and thatis something a bit more polite and that is excellent, um, that is an excellent, um, momentum you have moving here about use of masks in about the use of face masks in pubuc about the use of face masks in public at protests. we've seen that rocket , of course, during that rocket, of course, during the pro—palestine protests of late, great many people who

write into gb news saying this should be stopped. it's allowing anonymity for thugs. >> yeah . part of my role has >> yeah. part of my role has been looking as independent adviser to the prime minister and home secretary on political violence, and you look at the situation in, in protests for a number of years now, but this has been particularly used in the margins of the anti—israel , the margins of the anti—israel, pro—palestine protests that people try to mask their identity . um, people try to mask their identity. um, and people try to mask their identity . um, and then, people try to mask their identity. um, and then, you know, can kind of commit clear crimes and disruption as part of that. you've seen this transfigure for parts of the united states . yes. if you look united states. yes. if you look at what has happened in the likes of portland, oregon , the likes of portland, oregon, the black lives matter protests and black bloc tactics where extreme militant protesters will very deliberately generate quasi military style stop themselves being able to be identified and giving them a level of impunity . giving them a level of impunity. that is, those kind of tactics are not welcome here in the uk.

how do you enforce it? >> i've said i've pleaded with coppers on armistice day to keep mass people away from the cenotaph, and the police said we can't do anything about it. we're powerless. >> well, the police have >> well, the police do have at the powers the moment powers in the criminal act, where criminal justice act, where there a particular there is, is a particular scenario. they can order a group of people or people or people of people or people in or people in a particular area to remove their . but my view is that their mass. but my view is that now we have a strengthened regime of the police being able to ask for conditions. regime of the police being able to ask for conditions . as for to ask for conditions. as for protests to go ahead, where there is a strong potential for disorder that could be one of the position, one of the conditions say, okay, well, if this if this protest is going to go ahead, then it needs to go ahead with everyone being clearly visible to prevent the kind of repeats of the criminal and disorder we've seen, too often in these. >> it's a great proposition . but >> it's a great proposition. but if they weren't nick people for shouting jihad , if they weren't shouting jihad, if they weren't nick people for dressing as a mass terrorists, if they weren't nick over

nick people for clambering over war have war memorials, what chance have they got of actually enforcing on of face on mass the removal of face masks? have sympathy masks? well i have some sympathy for because , you for the police because, you know, they are they are policing difficult environments they difficult environments and they and try and keep and they have to try and keep control of the crowd at any time. >> my hope is that this will make it easier. and on the issue of jihad, look, i mean, it is it is clear cut my mind. those is clear cut in my mind. those people shouting jihad on people who are shouting jihad on the street in the aftermath of the street in the aftermath of the massacre of jewish the worst massacre of jewish people since the holocaust, are not talking about a peaceful inner struggle . they're not inner struggle. they're not talking about the other meaning of potential meaning of jihad. they're talking about violence. and the police, i think, got it wrong on that. and i hope that they will sharpen up. >> superb. excellent stuff. john willcock, lord walney, thank you so popping so much for popping in. christopher ever. christopher hope as ever. excellent conversation. loved it. we'll have it. okay, now we'll have lots more the rwanda at 5:00 more on the rwanda plan at 5:00 and there's plenty of coverage on gbnews.com. and on our website gbnews.com. and you've it the you've helped make it the fastest growing national news website the country. thank website in the country. so thank you rishi sunak

you very much. now rishi sunak has said the uk would not hesitate to launch further airstrikes against the iran backed rebels if attacks backed houthi rebels if attacks on shipping continued . i'm on shipping continued. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news

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that a couple of brief bombing salvos would have seen off the houthis. but as you keep saying, they didn't get the memo . they didn't get the memo. >> indeed. i think the >> no, indeed. and i think the alarm bells will be ringing for those that are concerned those that are very concerned about uk being drawn into about the uk being drawn into a more, uh, protracted armed conflict in those comments by rishi sunak that he would not hesitate to carry out more strikes if the houthis continue to launch these attacks on commercial shipping using the red sea and using the gulf of aden. and there's no sign really, despite these latest strikes being carried out by the uk and the us, that the houthis are willing to comply, they've said publicly that there will be retaliations . they said that retaliations. they said that after the last set of strikes, major air strikes that took place on the 11th of january. and of course, we know there have been air strikes, about half a dozen or so that have been carried out on a more

limited form by the americans on their own, following a number of attacks that the houthis have launched. and they continue to launched. and they continue to launch those attacks , martin and launch those attacks, martin and the rebels mark. the houthi rebels mark. >> they are well equipped, aren't they? sometimes they have this of being a rag bag this pr of being a rag bag bunch, but they're backed by iran and their drones are pesky and they necessitate very expensive weaponry to take them down. >> yes, i think it would be naive to just try to categorise them as this ragtag militia. um, you know, many of them have been pretty well trained by the iranians. well equipped by the iranians. well equipped by the iranians , and they're advised by iranians, and they're advised by the iranians . many of the the iranians. many of the missiles and drones you were seeing them on the screen there have been supplied either directly by iran or indeed come permanent parts have been smuggled across to yemen to help build these strike these missiles and drones. and in

fact, that was one of the things that rishi sunak spoke about in the commons today, is that there will be an intensified effort to try and ensure that that area around yemen is properly police out, to try to make sure that no components that could be used for more drones and missiles get into that country. >> and do you think the brits and the americans will be hoping for a swift resolution, all this tough talking? or will iran keep supplying the houthis indefinitely ? and may this indefinitely? and may this escalate even further ? escalate even further? >> well, i think there's no doubt iran will definitely doubt that iran will definitely try. uh its best to continue arming , uh, the houthis and arming, uh, the houthis and supporting the houthis in whatever way it can. i think the us and the uk are certainly hoping that they'll be able to degrade the houthis capacity to launch these missiles and drones to such an extent that they decide that the best option for them is to desist from firing

these drones and missiles at commercial shipping. the latest intelligence reports seem to suggest. according to security officials , that perhaps about officials, that perhaps about a third of the houthis capability to launch these missiles has been degraded. however that doesn't mean that they can't get that capacity back and it depends just how determined , um, depends just how determined, um, iran is to get those component parts into yemen and how quickly yemen can regroup and get back that capacity . that capacity. >> okay, superb analysis as even >> okay, superb analysis as ever. mark white, thanks for joining us. and for more on this. i can speak now to former nato commander chris parry. chris, welcome to the show. i've got a very simple question for you, chris. it seems like we're being dragged into a war. do we have the capability or the equipment to fight it? we're looking at record low numbers of army 72,000, the lowest since the napoleonic era. the lowest

number of raf jets since world war one. and we have aircraft carriers sitting idle in portsmouth harbour . well i mean, portsmouth harbour. well i mean, it's horses for courses. >> i mean, most of our commitment to what is happening against the houthis is political support of the americans. anyway it's a token military presence . it's a token military presence. the truth four typhoons flying from, uh, cyprus with four paveway bombs is not exactly, uh, you know, top of the hoist. >> you know, when you look at the f—18s flying from the american carrier, the cruise missiles and other munitions being the air. being put in the air. >> so this is more political than military , to tell you the than military, to tell you the truth. um, now , the fact of life truth. um, now, the fact of life is there's no point in sending our aircraft carriers to the red sea because there's american sea because there's an american supercar that can supercar carrier there that can handle this . what we've handle all of this. what we've got very carefully got is a very carefully calibrated coercion campaign to say to the houthis, look , you say to the houthis, look, you know, if you're going to misbehave, we're going to give you slap. and you increase you a slap. and if you increase your activity against the

international community and the red give even red sea will give you an even bigger slap , red sea will give you an even bigger slap, and grade bigger slap, and we'll grade it up according to what you think you want to escalate. and right up according to what you think you vactually scalate. and right up according to what you think you vactually ,:alate. and right up according to what you think you vactually , it'ste. and right up according to what you think you vactually , it's quited right now, actually, it's quite successful in containing what's going on. >> but how big are these slaps going to get and how long will it go ? iran is a nuclear power. it go? iran is a nuclear power. it has deep pockets. it has endless amounts of oil coming out of the ground to fund all of this. and it's okay for sunak and cameron to say, oh, we're going to bomb you a few times and lads. and you'll all go away, lads. but not getting the memo i >> k- k they obviously need to >> no, they obviously need to get about this. get frequent memos about this. just on one thing. they're martin. iran's not a nuclear power yet. it probably will be by about 2025. um, so actually , by about 2025. um, so actually, there's a real need to deal with iran's proxies before they get those nuclear weapons. and that's what's happening here. and in terms of recruitment, when people in the uk, particularly in the sort of recruitment bracket, can see that actually there's a worthwhile point to being in the armed forces, i.e. we're trying to do good, keep the peace and

deter the bad guys . you find deter the bad guys. you find recruiting actually picks up, to tell you the truth. so this is good for recruiting. i found, you know, after the wars i've been involved in, that you had an uptick in recruiting when people know, what people could see, you know, what the forces were for, not the armed forces were for, not theoretically , what they were theoretically, what they were for. >> yeah , that's an interesting >> yeah, that's an interesting point because we are at the moment, seen a 22% down moment, we've seen a 22% down tick recruitment to all armed tick in recruitment to all armed forces in particularly the navy has been hit. so yeah, i mean , has been hit. so yeah, i mean, fair point. people enlist for the sense of getting a bit of action down. the fantastic speak to you former nato commander chris parry . it's always a chris parry. it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00. and we'll cross live to birmingham to get the latest on the outbreak of measles there. but first, your latest news headunes first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> the top stories this hour. the prime minister says the uk

will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks on commercial commercial shipping in the red sea. rishi sunak described attacks by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unacceptable . it comes after unacceptable. it comes after last night's joint airstrikes with the united states, which took place after a meeting with president biden. the labour leader, sir keir starmer, backed the government's targeted action. mr sunak signalled new sanctions to be announced in the coming days, warning further attacks will be deterred . the attacks will be deterred. the four people, who were found dead at a house in norwich have been identified . the two adults have identified. the two adults have been named as 45 year old bartlomiej . kawczynski and 36 bartlomiej. kawczynski and 36 year old cantika sukh. p&o meanwhile, two young girls were also named as yasmin and natasha kuchinska. their bodies were discovered at an address in kc , discovered at an address in kc, south norfolk, on friday morning . police are continuing with their investigation . russian and their investigation. russian and a man who killed three people in a man who killed three people in a spate of attacks in nottingham

has had his not guilty plea accepted on the grounds of diminished responsible due to mental illness . 32 year old mental illness. 32 year old osvaldo calican , also known as osvaldo calican, also known as adam mendez , pleaded guilty to adam mendez, pleaded guilty to the manslaughter in november. he killed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar, as well as school caretaker ian coates. in june last year. he also admitted trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks and the met office is warning of strong winds and heavy rain across the whole of the uk as another storm sweeps in storm. josslyn currently battered britain, particularly in the north, with amber and yellow alerts issued for much of the country. yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern parts of scotland. no trains running in scotland from 7:00 tonight and tomorrow's rush houn tonight and tomorrow's rush hour. scotrail tells us services will also be out of action. more back detail on all those stories by heading to our website gb

news. com . news. com. >> thank you polly. now something to look forward to later today on gb news. we'll be heanng later today on gb news. we'll be hearing from katharine birbalsingh, who's the head teacher in north london who's fighting a legal challenge to her school's ban on prayer rituals taken by a muslim pupil. the woman, who's been branded britain's strictest headteacher, has spoken to patrick christys defending the ban . defending the ban. >> we all need to recognise that all of us need to make sacrifices for the betterment of the whole so that we can all get on, and that schools play such an important part of this. on, and that schools play such an important part of this . now, an important part of this. now, obviously, if your school is one where the children roam the corridors and the children do whatever they like during lunch , whatever they like during lunch, then i suppose you might choose to have a prayer and that's to have a prayer room and that's fine. know, i'm not fine. you know, i'm not suggesting all schools suggesting that all schools shouldn't a prayer room,

shouldn't have a prayer room, but do that if but i do think that if a school's ethos is such and building that they building is such that they cannot room, cannot have a prayer room, then they allowed to not they should be allowed to not have . have a prayer room. >> katharine birbalsingh not only called britain's strictest headteacher , but perhaps headteacher, but perhaps britain's bravest headteacher. she's taking on the mob, the mob that's being funded by legal aid, £100,000 worth of legal aid. in fact , has been given to aid. in fact, has been given to this pupil to take up this case against the michaela academy. that's birbalsingh school has very clear rules on this. it says no prayer rooms. it says no praying in that school . those praying in that school. those are the t's and c's of the school. when you sign up . and school. when you sign up. and yet here we are facing situation where a certain tranche of pupils, backed by lawyers , are pupils, backed by lawyers, are taking her to court because because they disagree . it's because they disagree. it's a case that's gripped the nation. it's talismanic in many respects . i'm delighted now to say that i'm joined by patrick christys, who's got that excellent interview to talk about. patrick

just saying to gb news viewers there , um, first of all, kudos there, um, first of all, kudos to you getting a great to you for getting a great interview. this is interview. but this is a talismanic battle ahead of talismanic legal battle ahead of katharine . actually katharine birbalsingh. actually paint a picture of britain . paint a picture of britain. >> we've had batley grammar school incidents. we've had the incidents berkeley primary incidents at berkeley primary school now school, haven't we? and now we've got incident here where we've got an incident here where one pupil with backing of one pupil with the backing of legal is able to take a legal aid, is able to take a headteacher all the way through to high with load of to the high court with a load of external influence from elements, hardline elements of the wider british radical muslim community, all for the sake of having a muslim prayer room in a school . all that is simply not school. all that is simply not kitted out for it. and it is a lesson really, in how the masses would have to change their ethos and way of life in order to accommodate people who , frankly, accommodate people who, frankly, don't really need to be accommodated . parents have accommodated. parents have already signed up to exactly what is going on at the school, so they know all about it, so they know everything that there is to know about it. and i mean,

there is a shocking tale here, martin, of bomb threats, of intimidation, of racism , um, of intimidation, of racism, um, of also a desire to radicalise other people within this school as well. all of that. katharine birbalsingh gets into it with me between 9 to 11 pm. on gb news this evening . this evening. >> and patrick, i just wanted to quickly ask you, as well as being britain's strictest head, she's now undeniably british. ian's bravest head because putting your head above the parapet like this , patrick, as parapet like this, patrick, as you with batley, something , you said with batley, something, i at the time and i went to batley at the time and i went to batley at the time and ispoke i went to batley at the time and i spoke in the public square that still hiding that teacher, still in hiding with his wife kids two years with his wife and kids two years later and as you say, at berkeley primary school and later and i spoke a mum later and i spoke with a mum this week, she's too to this week, she's too afraid to even speak out on that street because school has also had because that school has also had bomb threats. birbalsingh carries weight on her carries a great weight on her shoulders patrick absolutely. >> to the school today. >> i went to the school today. i had around. it's an had a look around. it's an incredibly multicultural school. i mean, it's hard to imagine a more multicultural school, actually, with you, more multicultural school, actlthey with you, more multicultural school, actlthey all with you, more multicultural school, actlthey all need with you, more multicultural school, actlthey all need to with you, more multicultural school, actlthey all need to come you, but they all need to come together under the one banner, which you

which is that you, you are british are of british and we are part of a community at this school, and that vital importance to that is of vital importance to katharine birbalsingh and all of her teachers. and she is not willing to blink on that. she is very, very strong this. and very, very strong on this. and she realistically, that if she says realistically, that if multiculturalism has any chance of all of the of working, then all of the people from every single different race, religion or creed need to make considerations for everybody else . now she is really putting else. now she is really putting that to the test. the verdict on this court case is going to be with us either later this month or of or potentially into the end of next month. just depends how next month. it just depends how long takes judge get long it takes the judge to get their in when their backside in gear when it comes but this will have comes to it, but this will have really consequences really far reaching consequences for nation, really, for us as a nation, really, about how are willing about how far we are willing to go in order to cave in to radical elements. and those teachers , make no mistake about teachers, make no mistake about it, martin, you will hear it, martin, as you will hear tonight, are fearing for their lives. >> a shocking state of affairs. well done pat. fantastic interview coming up tonight on patrick christys show from 9 pm, in which catherine birbalsingh talks about the threats have come threats her staff have come under fire. following that legal

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months until her christmas broadcast. he was on the airwaves the day . and that airwaves the next day. and that speech, just sort speech, i think he just it sort of he just said what of nailed it. he just said what needed said. of nailed it. he just said what neethe said. of nailed it. he just said what neethe fact said. of nailed it. he just said what neethe fact that d. of nailed it. he just said what neethe fact that the uk have >> the fact that the uk have felt it necessary to join the us again will fuel concerns that we are being dragged into a deeper conflict . conflict. >> every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join . from 6 am. hope you can join. us. welcome back . us. welcome back. >> it's 442. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news a 5:00. we'll have the latest on the lords who want to disrupt the government's rwanda plan with chilling echoes of brexit. and more than seven years after our landmark brexit vote is germany about to go down? the same? strasser well , down? the same? strasser well, the leader of the alternative for germany party, which is more popular than ever in the opinion polls. in fact , it's second at polls. in fact, it's second at the moment, say she would want to hold a referendum on eu membership if her party came to

power. well why don't we cross over now to the heart of the european union, brussels and speak with journalist jack parekh? jack, welcome to the show . dexit could be the next show. dexit could be the next brexit. the germans getting a bit restless. what's happening over there ? over there? >> yeah, that's i mean that's come from an interview with alice weidel who is the co—head of the alternative deutschland party, which, as you mentioned , party, which, as you mentioned, is soaring in the polls. they've got about 23% favorability in germany at the moment. she did an interview with the financial times where she said that if eu reform possible and if reform isn't possible and if there can't be a limit on european commission power, then the citizens of germany should be able to decide. now, while that's a very strong statement, the constitution of germany makes a referendum on german membership of the european union much, much more difficult to arrange than the british. one was. so i don't think we can expect a german dexit as it's

being called any time soon. but what's really interesting is the fact that she's raising this because most of the far right politicians in the in the european union at the moment, since brexit, if you look at the netherlands and geert wilders, if you look at france and marine le pen after brexit, they really stepped from their stepped down from their euroscepticism and that as a policy to campaign on. it's interesting that in germany right now, with a lot of political turmoil going, right going, going on at the moment that she's decided to bring up this issue of germany's membership of the eu. >> and, jack, what do you think is fuelling this euro scepticism? because of course, we know that reform won't be possible because the eu doesn't like to reform . it's it sets the like to reform. it's it sets the rules and like it or lump it. but they've been very active afd on for example. net zero the crippling diesel tax placed on farmers are seen berlin ground to a halt by hundreds and hundreds of tractor drivers and what about immigration into germany? what are the issues

domestically that are driving the spirit of brexit? >> well , there's a lot of >> well, there's a lot of there's a lot of things going on in germany right now and i'll try and break a few of them down. firstly, it's really interesting bringing interesting that she's bringing this idea of germany's this up. this idea of germany's exit the union, exit from the european union, because of her own because polling of her own political says that political supporters says that 52% of them would want to stay in the eu, only 40% of her own party would want to leave. and overall in germany, according to a konrad adenauer stiftung report, 87% of germans say they want to remain in the european union. this sort of referendum would be something like trying to get rid of the monarchy in the uk. it's a very different political there. when political situation there. when you talk about immigration, the, a group of far right politicians has held a secret meeting in potsdam a while back talking about potentially deporting people from germany . and it's people from germany. and it's caused a huge uproar in germany recently, sort of echoes of the far right past of the 1930s and 40s. and we all know how that

ended. and we saw hundreds of thousands of people across german cities on sunday protesting against the rise of far right politics in the wake of that. so that's one thing where the immigration stuff is going as far as the farmers protest, the afd is doing very well on that because they're speaking out against the green laws , especially the green deal laws, especially the green deal stuff. that's coming out of the european union coming out of brussels, which makes me question why alice weidel decided to bring this unpopular idea of a german exit from the european union into the debate when, at the moment they're doing well on particular issues like those farmers protests . like those farmers protests. >> and jack, it's worth pointing out a lot of people who agree with afd, even in britain, agree with afd, even in britain, agree with control and borders. they're not far right. they're just not far wrong on a lot of things. but i appreciate that as a political label . how has things. but i appreciate that as a political label. how has this played out ? um, politically, played out? um, politically, domestically in germany, presumably the afd's political rivals are getting into a bit of

a flap about this . a flap about this. >> uh, well, most of all of the other political parties in germany would consider themselves to be pro—european. none of them would ever suggest to leave the eu. and we've had a few tweets different few tweets from different members of the, uh, the coalition government there. reinhart hoban, who's a liberal fdp mp , saying nobody in the fdp mp, saying nobody in the sound mind would seriously call for germany's exit from the european union. we've had a smattering of different, uh, suggestions like that, and it's important just to say that if afd into power in the afd did get into power in the next elections, which are in a few years time, it would almost certainly be within a coalition government. and none of the coalition parties, as it stands, would be in favour of making any moves to leave the european union. it'sjust moves to leave the european union. it's just really politically interesting that she's deciding to bring this into the debate in germany now. >> yeah, superb . and, jack, the >> yeah, superb. and, jack, the point about this, she's flying a kite to test public mood. that's what politicians do . doesn't what politicians do. doesn't necessarily mean that they will do that . similar things have

do that. similar things have happened poland and similar happened in poland and similar things have happened in italy. queitly, as they call it, and also in france. frexit but it probably won't happen any time soon. but nonetheless, there is big political movement in germany. they are certainly having a rethink about their relationship with brussels . and relationship with brussels. and what can i say? i'll say cheers to them. journalist jack patrick, thanks for joining us from brussels. my old stamping ground gives me the hives to think about brussels. ground gives me the hives to think about brussels . thank god think about brussels. thank god that britain is out. anyway, that the britain is out. anyway, another day and another example of the chaos surrounding the migrant crisis. it's been revealed that more than 1300 child asylum seekers have been wrongly ruled to be adults by the home office, and over half of the age measurements between january and june last year were incorrect. well, we can speak now with human rights lawyer shakib khan. thanks forjoining us. i've got a question for you. um, i thought we couldn't work out the age of immigrants or

asylum seekers. we weren't allowed to check records often . allowed to check records often. they didn't have paperwork. we weren't allowed to take dental records. it was an infringement of their human rights. so how come worked come they suddenly worked out that that we said that the people that we said were aren't ? um well, were children aren't? um well, the way we work it out is, i mean, there's all sorts of assessments that take place, uh, mainly by independent social workers. >> and that's the whole point that obviously we do have people who qualified be able to who are qualified to be able to make as as make that assessment as much as is humanly possible . but what make that assessment as much as is hhomey possible . but what make that assessment as much as is h home office ble . but what make that assessment as much as is h home office does but what make that assessment as much as is hhome office does lsil what make that assessment as much as is hhome office does is , what make that assessment as much as is hhome office does is , um,t make that assessment as much as is hhome office does is , um, it the home office does is, um, it just looks at people's appearances, it looks at their demeanour . appearances, it looks at their demeanour. it just makes summary assessment immediately deciding you're child , you're an you're not a child, you're an adult, you're child, an adult, you're a child, you're an aduu adult, you're a child, you're an adult um, what that means adult. um, and what that means is that people that are, um, assessed as independently just, you know, immigration caseworkers make those assessed points really quickly. um, and then anyone who they deem to be adults don't actually go to social services . they're not social services. they're not referred to councils. they don't actually go through the processes a child has to go processes that a child has to go through. and that's why so many

of have up in of these people have ended up in this position. but obviously we do tests and we do have do have tests and we do have assessments help assessments that can, um, help us as much as possible to decide whether someone is a child or an aduu whether someone is a child or an adult . adult. >> and people watching >> and many people watching this, i mean, this is a report by the refugee council and two of the charities. they obviously have a vested interest in, in their narrative and people will be asking that very basic question if they if they're claiming that we get cases wrong this way round, then we must spy definition by default, by logic, be getting cases wrong the other way round. when we're assuming people are children, they're in fact adults, particularly when they come with no documentation . they come with no documentation. on um, yeah, i'm sure there are mistakes made. >> yes. i mean, i don't think that's really a matter of debate or contention. i'm sure there is. but the whole point is, um, you know what side do you want to be earning on? what is the more what is , you know, the more what is, you know, the better approach to if in better approach to take if in doubt, what do you do? you decide should be

decide that a child should be put in, uh, in prison or a detention centre or with adults, or do you say, okay, fine. you know, he claims to be 17. in fact, he might be 18 fact, maybe he might be 18 or 19, but shall we just treat him as a child just in case? so that's i'm that's something, you know, i'm sure to be sure there are going to be borderline where those borderline cases where those judgements but judgements have to be made. but here shows obviously here it shows that obviously that the home office does you know, we talk about culture that the home office does you kn disbelief lk about culture that the home office does you kn disbelief lk aboihome culture that the home office does you kn disbelief lk aboihome office. of disbelief in the home office. you them and you say anything to them and they automatically assume you say anything to them and they you automatically assume you say anything to them and they you know, atically assume you say anything to them and they you know, you're' assume you say anything to them and they you know, you're a|ssume that, you know, you're a foreigner, an asylum foreigner, you're an asylum seeker, you're an immigrant. you must that's must be lying and that's the point and it's point here, you know, and it's not number. it's not 13 not a small number. it's not 13 or 130, in just 18 or even 130, 1300. in just 18 months. so it means, you know , months. so it means, you know, dozens, tens, you know, every single day, hundreds every month are being wrongly assessed. and these are the ones that got caught. um, like the report says, you know, so many of them neven says, you know, so many of them never, get um, uh , never, um, get to, um, uh, social services. so those aren't detected. and many councils obviously , you know, this data obviously, you know, this data was collected, related by asking individual councils around the country. many didn't apply. many didn't have the data. so in

fact, the numbers are probably likely be much more likely to be much more than that. but 1300 and many of them, um , obviously, um , there are um, obviously, um, there are immigration related criminal offences as well. many of these children were actually taken to criminal courts, prosecuted , convicted. >> hang on. i'll just like >> hang, hang on. i'll just like to intervene because you made a point about should we err on one side or the other? i don't think we should err on the side. either way, we should be accurate and accurate ageing, accurate and accurate at ageing, should have a process. and here's problem with that here's my problem with that process. as it stands, the recommendations laid out in this report is that those so—called experts, you say , who are ageing experts, you say, who are ageing people, into this country people, come into this country based upon of somebody based upon the word of somebody who no idea who they who we have no idea who they are. we're not allowed to biologically age through biologically age them through their their their dna or through their dental that would be dental records that would be a violation of their human rights. the rules are this in exceptional circumstances where there was evidence that they were in their late 20s or older, only then can we claim to cheat, treat children as adults. their

late 20s or older for and yet we see 1300 children actually treated as adults. >> so how how old was did the home office think they were in their 40s? and that just shows how ridiculous the whole system is and how ridiculous it is when we have, um, you know, i mean, even terms we saw even in terms of like we saw last in terms of the asylum last year in terms of the asylum backlog and others, even immigration decisions immigration and asylum decisions literally , their job, the work literally, their job, the work that caseworkers are that these caseworkers are supposed how many times supposed to do, how many times they wrong, can they get them wrong, but how can we to be deciding we expect them to be deciding whether a or whether someone is a child or not? that's the whole point. that shouldn't be their job. that shouldn't be their job. that nothing do that should be nothing to do with them. they should refer them um, them automatically to, um, social services, um, and children's services, and they should making the decisions. should be making the decisions. that's whole if you that's the whole point. if you just automatically assume, you know, you're talking know, by the way you're talking or a beard or your or you have a beard or your demeanour your language, demeanour or your body language, or appearance, demeanour or your body language, or an appearance, demeanour or your body language, or an adult appearance, demeanour or your body language, or an adult andiearance, demeanour or your body language, or an adult and younnce, demeanour or your body language, or an adult and you send you're an adult and you send them to an detention them to an adult detention centre they're going to, centre, they're never going to, you no social worker will you know, no social worker will ever them . ever come across them. >> okay, well, have to >> okay, well, we'll have to leave chaib khan,

leave it there. chaib khan, human lawyer. thank human rights lawyer. thank you for on show. what for joining us on the show. what do think out there? just do you think out there? just this calamitous this is just a calamitous situation where are situation where people are basically guessing , and yet basically guessing, and yet they're allowed to actually they're not allowed to actually use would use anything that would be considered intrusive or considered as intrusive or accurate agent. we have to take accurate agent. we have to take a word for it. and after seeing these people, what they have to be in their late 20s before we're allowed to say they might not be crazy anyway. only a few days sunak urged days after rishi sunak urged lords frustrate will lords not to frustrate the will of people, they backed an of the people, they backed an unprecedented move seeking to delay treaty with rwanda delay a treaty with rwanda that's intended to make the policy legally watertight . i'm policy legally watertight. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of whether on . gb news. sponsors of whether on. gb news. >> hi there, it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . it's a wet the gb news forecast. it's a wet and windy day out there. disruptive as disruptive winds overnight as storm jocelyn moves in. now storm jocelyn moves in. now storm jocelyn moves in. now

storm jocelyn coming just two days after storm esha is going to cause further impacts because of the ongoing repair and recovery work. but it is a notch down on what we saw with storm isha. i think overnight, the northern two thirds of the uk seeing gusts of 5060 miles an hour for the north and west of scotland. the risk of 80 mile per hour wind gusts. so not quite as strong as echr, but the potential for some significant impacts. nevertheless we're going to see the rain turn to showers overnight and the heaviest downpours will be affecting and northern affecting scotland and northern ireland further south. some clear spells nevertheless , a clear spells nevertheless, a blustery for all of us as blustery start for all of us as we wednesday. some decent we begin wednesday. some decent bright weather out there and the winds to decrease winds do start to decrease through the morning and early part of the afternoon. we'll see further showers across scotland. some thunderstorms here and there, but actually there'll be some sunshine in between and for many it's a fine start to the afternoon. but for wales in the southwest , some rain turns up by southwest, some rain turns up by the end of the afternoon here. and it's be mild day

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gb news. good afternoon. >> it's 5 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news, broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. afternoon , rishi sunak uk. this afternoon, rishi sunak urged the lords not to frustrate the will of the people and not to oppose the government's rwanda plan . but guess what? rwanda plan. but guess what? the peers are already revolting. it's brexit all over again. next says the shocking story of the grooming gang ringleader who, still living in the uk. an astonishing nine years after he was ordered to be deported. what's going on there? and there's good news on the battle to beat alzheimer's disease. and that's all coming in the next hour. that's all coming in the next hour . so as that's all coming in the next hour. so as sure as night follows day, the lords are trying to torpedo rwanda, it feels that brexit all over again. what's the point of the

house of lords? do you think we should abolish them? let me know. email me your views all the way. the usual way. vaiews@gbnews.com. but before that it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. will the top story from the gb news room today. the prime minister says the won't hesitate to take the uk won't hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks on commercial shipping in the red sea. rishi sunak described attacks by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unacceptable. it comes after last night's joint airstrikes with the united states, which took place after a meeting with president biden . here, the president biden. here, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, backs the government's targeted action and mr sunak signalled new sanctions will be announced in the coming days, warning further attacks will meet with a response. we are not seeking a confrontation . confrontation. >> we urge the houthis and those

who enable them to stop these illegal and unacceptable attacks. yes but if necessary, the united kingdom will not hesitate to respond again in self—defence . we cannot stand by self—defence. we cannot stand by and allow these attacks to go unchallenged , and inaction is unchauenged,andinacfionis also unchallenged, and inaction is also a choice. >> rishi sunak , now the four >> rishi sunak, now the four people who were found dead at a house in norfolk have been identified. two adults have been named as 45 year old butler may kutchinsky and 36 year old kentish sukh padda p&o. meanwhile two young girls were also named as yasmin and natasha, cousins . also named as yasmin and natasha, cousins. their bodies were discovered at an address in norwich on friday morning . norwich on friday morning. police are continuing their investigation . a universal investigation. a universal student showed incredible bravery when she tried to fight off a killer in nottingham, a court has heard today. in june last year, 32 year old valda callachan killed barnaby weber and grace o'malley kumar, who

fought back and then later school caretaker ian coates . the school caretaker ian coates. the killer, also known as adam mendez , pleaded not guilty on mendez, pleaded not guilty on the grounds of diminished responsibility. he also admitted trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks . health news and europe attacks. health news and europe is seeing an alarming rise in cases of measles. the world health organisation says the disease is spreading rapidly across the continent, with more than 42,000 cases reported last year. than 42,000 cases reported last year . that's than 42,000 cases reported last year. that's 45 times more cases than a year before a study by oxford university suggests. disinformation is to blame, with only 1 in 5 people in the uk saying they think vaccine data is fake . officials say the is fake. officials say the decline in routine vaccinations is concerning, and doctor tamara keith told gb news earlier that getting the jab is the only way to protect children . to protect children. >> measles is not just a fever with a rash, it can cause all sorts of complications. it can give your child seizures ,

give your child seizures, pneumonia. they can end up in hospital and in the very worst cases it can actually prove fatal. cases it can actually prove fatal . and i'm not saying that fatal. and i'm not saying that to scare people , but with to scare people, but with a simple vaccination given to your child, you can protect them against measles. and so that really is the best thing you can do . do. >> the met office is warning of strong winds and heavy rain across the whole of the uk, as another storm sweeps in, storm jocelyn , she's called she's jocelyn, she's called she's battering britain right now with amber and yellow alerts issued for much of the country , for much of the country, particularly in the north. yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern parts of scotland, and no trains will be running in scotland from 7:00 tonight. tomorrow's rush hour is off as well. services will be out of action while scotrail checks the lines for damage . gb checks the lines for damage. gb news reporterjack checks the lines for damage. gb news reporter jack carson checks the lines for damage. gb news reporterjack carson is on news reporter jack carson is on the welsh coast . are we haven't the welsh coast. are we haven't got that report for you, but i'll try and bring it to you in

our next hour of news. now in the united states, donald trump says he expects his last remaining republican opponent to drop new drop out after today's new hampshire primary. polls are pointing a likely victory for pointing to a likely victory for the president . but nikki the former president. but nikki haley has gained support and her exit isn't guaranteed . and exit isn't guaranteed. and anthony scaramucci was trump's director of communications dunng director of communications during trump's time in the white house. and he told gb news trump lacks the temperament to be an effective leader . effective leader. >> there are 20 cabinet members that work for mr trump closely and directly alongside of myself . now, granted, i was there for 11 days, but i did work for him for close to a year on the campaign and we all saw the same thing and we were all speaking out against his temperament to be the president of the united states. so so things do change. uh, facts change and smart people change their opinion . uh, people change their opinion. uh, when the facts change. >> and lastly , the doomsday >> and lastly, the doomsday clock , which measures how close clock, which measures how close

humanity is to the end of the world, has remained 90s to midnight for the second year in a row. it means the bulletin of atomic scientists believe the threat of a global apocalypse hasn't dipped in the last 12 months, but it also hasn't got worse. though it's only symbolic , the clock is meant to show how close the world is to existential catastrophe . the existential catastrophe. the clock's keepers cite the wars in ukraine and gaza as well as the earth experiencing its hottest year on record as causes of concern . keep calm and carry on. concern. keep calm and carry on. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> thank you polly. now we start with the house of lords trying to torpedo the government's flagship rwanda plans. to torpedo the government's flagship rwanda plans . and just flagship rwanda plans. and just as we predicted last week, as sure as night follows day, it's like brexit all over again. only

a few days after rishi sunak urged peers not to frustrate the will of the people , they backed will of the people, they backed an unprecedented move seeking to delay a treaty with rwanda. that's intended to make the policy legally watertight. check out this price comment from former liberal democrat mp lord carlisle . carlisle. >> i have been offended by criticism , some of it aimed at criticism, some of it aimed at me and others who spoke out on the rwanda subject that we are unelected and nobodies who are simply put here to obey the rule of the democrat tactically elected house. my lords, that is not our role. >> one of our roles here is to protect democracy. sometimes to protect democracy. sometimes to protect democracy. sometimes to protect democracy from itself . protect democracy from itself. >> if , well, he called himself >> if, well, he called himself an unelected nobody. >> chris, chris hope joins me in the studio . but a lot of people the studio. but a lot of people are once again back to the days of brexit, saying , here we go of brexit, saying, here we go again. it's groundhog day. the

lords don't seem to like democracy, yet they call themselves the defenders of democracy. the big question is , democracy. the big question is, chris, are they ganging together to derail rishi sunak's rwanda bill? >> well, there are revising chamber martin aren't they. and what he was talking about there, there was a vote yesterday on there was a vote yesterday on the international agreements committee recommended in the lords to hold off ratifying this treaty with rwanda until, until they can be sure that rwanda is safe now, of course, that is a for the government's point of view. that's a frustrating thing , trying to delay the first flights, taking off in or flights, taking off in may or june as the as the pm wants by by by the spring, he said. the key the numbers who key thing now is the numbers who voted night in favour voted last night in favour of that. voted last night in favour of that . we lord walmsley, john that. we had lord walmsley, john woodcock here earlier. of course, voted one of the 214 course, he voted one of the 214 peers who voted for that, for that 171 against. and those numbers , that 43 majority, numbers, that 43 majority, almost the mirror image of the majority in the house of commons, of course, is what the

whip's looking at. that looks like there will be a majority for changes to this bill. now, lord walmsley earlier told you, didn't he, that there'll only be there'll only be targeted changes, not wholesale changes, but many on the tory piece. i spoke to say they do expect the bill to be gutted like an old dead fish. yeah. the question is, will it, will it then be restored by mps when it comes back? probably in april . back? probably in april. there'll be a lot of ding dong. we'll of we'll feel it's a kind of constitution issue. but you know, the lord carlile is right there in a sense . they are there in a sense. they are trying to improve legislation from the from the primary chamber and you have experts across the board there doing it. >> you about gutting >> when you talk about gutting the fish, let's look at those wielding the filleting knife. and where the eye falls and here's where the eye falls upon lord peter goldsmith, tony blair's attorney general during the iraq war. baroness chakrabarti, a corbynista. these people are hardly the moral vanguards of the high ground. >> they are representative. maybe of politicians going back decades. maybe of politicians going back decades . shami chakrabarti, with

decades. shami chakrabarti, with director of liberty, fought a lot against tony blair on on detention , detention, 42 days detention, detention, 42 days detention. it went down to 28 days detention of terror suspects back in the day in the mid—noughties. back then , peter mid—noughties. back then, peter goldsmith, lord goldsmith, was , goldsmith, lord goldsmith, was, of course, the attorney general when he pulled out some um, um, legal advice to justify the invasion of iraq in 2003. so, yes , they have history, but they yes, they have history, but they are also trying to improve it. i mean, if they were here now, they'd be saying, we're trying to make this better. martin and more in keeping with international agreements. more in keeping with internaticare agreements. more in keeping with internatic are they aments. more in keeping with internatic are they trying;. more in keeping with internatic are they trying to make >> well, are they trying to make it they trying to it better or are they trying to make a lot slower, make it slower? a lot slower, slower for it slower enough, in fact, for it to sufficiently allow boats to sufficiently allow the boats to sufficiently allow the boats to to cause to start coming in to cause further political damage to rishi which it will do if rishi sunak, which it will do if it carries. of course it will. and labour and this is the labour peers, the peers and doubt the lib dem peers and no doubt some conservative wets some of the conservative wets are together, causing are banding together, causing political damage to rishi sunak. and the longer it goes on, the worse it will be the worse it will be for the conservative party. >> there's now a deadline on the

rwanda plan. it's got start rwanda plan. it's got to start working any working this summer to have any electoral benefit for rishi sunak of the sunak because of course, the election november. by election is in november. by then, crossings will slow then, the crossings will slow down. got to got to be down. it's got to get got to be up about may up and running by about may or june then they'll take it june and then they'll take it from there. june and then they'll take it frorandzre. june and then they'll take it frorand you have a crumb of >> and you have a crumb of comfort sunak comfort for us. rishi sunak matt's prime minister. matt's a prime minister. >> well those want to >> well, for those who want to stop certainly . or get stop the boat, certainly. or get towards it, the pm today met alexander croo , who's a alexander de croo, who's a belgian, prime minister. belgian, um, prime minister. they've agreed a uk belgium law enforcement cooperation agreement. in short , that is a agreement. in short, that is a focus on surveillance and information. ultimately which should help stop the boats. not many boats make crossings from belgium, but it's the kind of they can hopefully law they can hopefully use law enforcement. these are the kind of deals which sir keir starmer is he becomes is talking about. if he becomes prime more of prime minister, he'll do more of these with um with um these deals with um with um countries the continent. countries on the continent. and this pm, the tory this shows that the pm, the tory pm, can do them too. >> there may be intelligence >> and there may be intelligence sharing of crime gangs that operate within belgium. as you say, it's much further say, it's a much, much further distance, perilous distance, a much more perilous across sea. very across the north sea. very unlikely that people will be

leaving any great numbers leaving in any great numbers from but nevertheless, from belgium. but nevertheless, is this of note , or is it is it is this of note, or is it is it a token victory against a backdrop of domestic loss? >> they can do it with belgium and not do it with the european union, been union, because so far we've been told returns agreements told the returns agreements can't individual can't be agreed with individual countries they've got countries because they've got the european union to talk to. maybe can be mirrored maybe this deal can be mirrored with and might help with france, and that might help with france, and that might help with better cooperation, because basically we're basically after brexit we're a sovereign country . we have to sovereign country. we have to work some areas more closely work on some areas more closely with our european neighbours. >> maybe macron will do a better deal this. chris hope i admire your superb stuff . your optimism. superb stuff. choppy waters ahead, no doubt for sunak now world for rishi sunak now the world health organisation has issued a fresh warning over measles over a 30 fold rise in cases across europe. experts from the organisation said europe is seeing an alarming rise in the spread of the disease. now there are particular concerns about parts of london and the west midlands and we can cross live now to birmingham to speak to our national reporter, theo theo chikomba. theo was seeing a

spike in cases. what's driving this ? this? >> yes. well as you rightly point out that there's been a 30 fold increase to according the world health organisation , and world health organisation, and that's showing a huge increase, particularly from the year before when it was only hundred several cases. >> now there are reported 30,000 cases across europe . and here in cases across europe. and here in birmingham, it's sort of the centre , 80% of those cases in centre, 80% of those cases in the last couple of months. recent figures, uh, highlighted by the uk health security agency and that's including london and coventry as well. >> some of those highest figures we're seeing across the uk. >> and there is now a push to see more young people vaccinated andifs see more young people vaccinated and it's been also extended to young kids around the age of five and older, people who have only had one dose of the mmr jab now , this afternoon i spoke to a now, this afternoon i spoke to a gp who's encouraging parents to

get their children vaccinated despite some of the concerns we've heard over the years about autism being a potential problem, and this is what she had to say. >> returning to some of those concerns that people have getting your children vaccinated against measles is really important . important. >> it's not too late. so two doses of the mmr vaccine are 97% effective against measles . and effective against measles. and that's the best way that you can protect your child from getting measles . the mmr is measles. the mmr vaccine is available for free via your usual gp, so just give them a call and book in and they will be very happy to book your child in for those doses of the mmr. it's really important to get your child vaccinated . it is the your child vaccinated. it is the most effective way to protect your child from measles. but measles not just a fever with measles is not just a fever with a rash, it can cause all sorts of complicated issues. it can give child seizures , give your child seizures, pneumonia. they end up in pneumonia. they can end up in hospital and in the very worst cases it can actually prove fatal. cases it can actually prove fatal . and i'm not saying that

fatal. and i'm not saying that to people , but with to scare people, but with a simple vaccination given to your child, you can protect them against measles. child, you can protect them against measles . and it's those against measles. and it's those complications that held experts are trying to avoid. >> so families don't have to see their children come to hospitals like this, where some of those patients with measles have had to isolate from other patients. >> and that is a concern . and >> and that is a concern. and also push from the trust in this area who have been setting up p0p up area who have been setting up pop up clinics so that children and their parents can go along to get vaccinated. but of course, we know it's a difficult subject when it comes to vaccinations, and that's why i was put into parents today who i spoke to saying, have you had your child vaccinated? is this a concern, particularly with the rise in cases in birmingham? this is what they had to say. >> yeah, it's something i'm aware social media campaigns. >> i also work for a city council, our public health department are pushing the message around vaccination and the children's school . message around vaccination and the children's school. um, so my

children were like, i've got twin boys. they were like, having their jabs because of covid delays , um, and various covid delays, um, and various different setbacks. and so just two weeks ago, both of my boys were vaccinated , um, and hearing were vaccinated, um, and hearing the numbers around , you know, the numbers around, you know, increased cases. >> does that scare you at all? >> does that scare you at all? >> yeah, it is scary. i mean, it's a you know, it's not very nice disease to catches it. and also, you know, for their friends know spreads friends and you know it spreads very, very so um, you very, very quickly. so um, you know, last thing i want to know, the last thing i want to do is for my children to contract it or for others to contract it or for others to contract if they contract it from them. if they were infectious. um not me, were infectious. um not for me, particularly because he has been vaccinated. >> so if he was to catch it, i know he wouldn't get it really bad. >> but it is obviously rising and especially in birmingham and it's quite it's quite a scary thing because it's quite dangerous for children to get, um, measles as, um, he's had all his vaccinations and my other two children have as well. >> but i remember obviously a long time ago with the particular mmr , there particular with the mmr, there was kind of rumours going around

that children could have got autism . autism. >> um, and i think that's been kind of squashed now. i don't think , um, anyone gets that think, um, anyone gets that anymore from the mmr, but i think it still sticks into people's minds. >> so here at birmingham children's hospital, >> so here at birmingham children's hospital , they children's hospital, they reported this month that they're treating around 50 patients, and there is now a push for parents to get their children vaccinated. >> and of course, those who are concerned or have issues with vaccination, they're being advised to speak to their local gp or health practitioner. okay >> theo chikomba national reporter live from birmingham. thanks for joining reporter live from birmingham. thanks forjoining us and we thanks for joining us and we also need to talk about the cultural element. there's a report in sunday times in report in the sunday times in birmingham communities birmingham from the communities and somalian communities. and the somalian communities. bangladeshi community has been very hard to reach in very stubborn, hard to reach in terms of public health messaging. have messaging. maybe they have justification after the covid vaccination nevertheless vaccination plan. nevertheless we need to have a conversation in full without fear or favour . in full without fear or favour.

now moving on. reform uk are polling at above 10. in fact, they're on 12, almost 13. but they're on 12, almost 13. but they don't have any mps . can they don't have any mps. can they don't have any mps. can they really cause a political earthquake this year? we'll discuss that after this. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's

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can do it. that man , not your can do it. that man, not your ukip i'm ukip i was about to slip in a little correction there. former uk mp . that man is there. former uk mp. that man is patrick o'flynn and he joins me in the studio now. patrick thanks for coming in and um, i got you in because i saw an excellent piece you wrote in the telegraph today . and you say telegraph today. and you say quite simply the by—election is coming up in wellingborough, and you think this is the time for reform to show their medals? >> absolutely. wellingborough and kingswood gloucestershire and kingswood in gloucestershire , they're standing there as well. so i compared, um, the well. now so i compared, um, the reform party to one of these footballers who do amazing things the training ground, things on the training ground, which is an analogy with their poll rating , but haven't done it poll rating, but haven't done it in elections. think their in real elections. i think their best by—election vote share today just now uh, today is just over 5. now uh, back in the day with ukip in the run up to the 2014 european elections, the 2015 general election, ukip was coming, you know, second or third in by elections with 20% of the vote. and that is partly what what led douglas carswell and mark reckless to defect from the

tories and stand in by elections 7 tories and stand in by elections ? they thought they could win under ukip colours. so reform needs to actually turn this poll rating into actual votes. and i think a lot of people question it. >> they they don't have a branch structure. >> they're a sort of, uh, could be category as a bit of a politics showbiz elite project. >> where are the ground troops? can they do it? because this is a real sweet spot. rishi sunak is in huge trouble. well kingborough in particular, ukip came second in in the 2015 general election . general election. >> it's a hugely eurosceptic , >> it's a hugely eurosceptic, uh, kind of staunch right wing seat , but i uh, kind of staunch right wing seat, but i don't see uh, kind of staunch right wing seat , but i don't see reform seat, but i don't see reform getting a better chance than this. >> and if they bomb, i think the risk for them is in the local elections where they haven't performed well before and they've no branches or ground performed well before and they'vethey)ranches or ground performed well before and they'vethey could as or ground performed well before and they'vethey could getr ground performed well before and they'vethey could get crushed and game. they could get crushed and people will stop taking them seriously. >> okay, that might be a great point to bring in my other guests. henry smith, conservative mp for crawley, joins . patrick makes a clear joins me. patrick makes a clear case there . this could be the

case there. this could be the moment these by elections. a lot of people , if you spend a lot of of people, if you spend a lot of time like i do, looking at the comments on the telegraph pieces, on the mail, pieces, on the daily mail, pieces, on the daily mail, pieces , on the express pieces, pieces, on the express pieces, there certainly be there certainly seems to be quite dis chuffed quite a lot of dis chuffed conservative there conservative voters out there who are thinking of gambling with reform. are you concerned? >> well, this shaft is a great expression and i think that's probably very accurate. and also i think what patrick was saying is probably a fair assessment. the thing with our electoral system , whether you like it or system, whether you like it or not, with first past the post, is need to a critical is you need to get a critical mass and then tipping point. mass and then a tipping point. >> convinced , >> and i'm not convinced, judging by recent polling performances in real elections means that reform , um, are at means that reform, um, are at that moment at the biggest threat, of course, to the conservative party is that it splits the vote , generally splits the vote, generally speaking, on the right. and that's why one of the arguments that's why one of the arguments that i'm continuing to make within the conservative party is that need some more that we need some more conservative policies, like lower taxation , one, like lower taxation, one, like actually getting serious about

stopping the channel migrant boats and other you know what i would say true blue issues that i think people voted for four years ago, an actual fact. >> henry patrick, that's the reform party's manifesto. but what you're saying there, what the conservatives ought to be doing, what you'd like to be doing, what you'd like to be doing this lot say that they will do the question is, can they will people take they do it? will people take that can they break that leap and can they break this glass ceiling at the first pass of the post gives us or are we caught this, this flip we caught in this, this flip flop between red and flop in eternity between red and blue rosettes? >> well, i think , um, henry's >> well, i think, um, henry's party, the danger is it's dropping so far in the polls. it could be about to lose critical mass. and these are by elections. >> remember where we're not voting on the next government of the day. it's an ideal protest vote to be convened. and i think in ben ben habib in wellingborough and rupert lowe in kingswood , reform are putting in kingswood, reform are putting up two of the most credible, uh, by—election candidates i've seen. so all the conditions are right . i detect talking to right. i detect talking to habitual conservative voters ,

habitual conservative voters, uh, a very, very deep sense of disenchantment. deeper than anything i think i can ever remember . and so if not now , remember. and so if not now, when? must be the challenge i personally think that reform are going to leap into double figure vote shares in both those seats and wellingborough must be the one where they would to hope push on towards 20. >> henry, by elections, of course, we see dramatic swings we certainly have of late. is there any such thing as a safe seat anymore? we saw in north shropshire the shop shropshire and all over the shop that case, but a that isn't the case, but it is a protest vote, by—election are protest vote, a by—election are you that this will you convinced that this will manifest itself through to the general and will reform affect you then, or will people just think, you know, when push comes to shove, i'll stick with one of the two parties. the two big parties. >> martin, i think what >> well, martin, i think what patrick said right as well, >> well, martin, i think what patermsaid right as well, >> well, martin, i think what paterms of right as well, >> well, martin, i think what paterms of by right as well, >> well, martin, i think what paterms of by elections'ell, >> well, martin, i think what paterms of by elections are an in terms of by elections are an opportunity to opportunity for people to register dissatisfaction . register their dissatisfaction. um, that's probably putting it too yeah. too mildly. yeah. >> with the government. >> with the government. >> but i do think general elections, when you are electing a party to govern is different.

and i think there's a similar analogy to almost five years ago, when the conservatives were actually polling much lower than they are right after the they are right now, after the all brexit under the all the brexit delays under the theresa may premiership. >> that's when got elected, >> that's when i got elected, when, indeed . when, uh, indeed. >> um, and when boris johnson , >> um, and when boris johnson, um, came in and turned things around and actually presented the country with proper conservative policies, the promise of those was then we saw the landslide victory, the biggest since the late 1980s, just six months later. so things can turn around. but i would repeat again , um, that the repeat again, um, that the government really do need to come out with some true conservative policies that the vast majority of people, when i speak to them on the street, want to see. and that brings us neatly onto the rwanda bill, because a lot of people think that's true conservative policy. >> let's get people to rwanda. yet are once again. yet here we are once again. echoes brexit, the dark days echoes of brexit, the dark days of 2019, the lords are frustrating . i understand you frustrating. i understand you voted for this bill with the amendments so, so you're of the

robert jenrick sort of tranche yet the lords are frustrating . yet the lords are frustrating. the will of the party. how predictable is this? what are you going to do about it? >> well, i think it's completely predictable. >> the lords tend to be much more to the left of the elected house of commons, because there have been sort of rammed full of, um, life , uh, peers from the of, um, life, uh, peers from the liberal democrats and the labour party and others on the left, and therefore they will do everything they can to frustrate, actually getting migrants flown to rwanda to hopefully have a deterrent effect of people trying to cross the channel in the first place. personally, go much further. i personally, i go much further. i think we should consider leaving the out from the echr or carving out from that, a debate. that, but that's a debate. i suppose, another but suppose, for another day. but the lords will do whatever they can to frustrate that, and that's why i supported amendments to strengthen the bill. at the end of the day, bill. but at the end of the day, i didn't vote against third reading because and imperfect piece legislation is better

piece of legislation is better than no piece of legislation. >> okay, i'll quickly ask the pair of you the news. um, pair of you before the news. um, a question that christopher a question that that christopher hope to to sunak and hope to put to rishi sunak and it's single pint beer. it's this a single pint of been will a flight leave for rwanda before general before the next general election? no? i sincerely election? yes or no? i sincerely hope so. >> yes, think on the balance >> yes, i think on the balance of probability , that's a pint of been >> patrick will a flight leave before the next general election? i'm not going to say there's no chance they'll get a couple flights half couple of flights with half a dozen people on each. >> they'll have >> i don't think they'll have it operating of scale operating at any sort of scale to a decisive deterrent to prove a decisive deterrent and probability. no and balance of probability. no dodi at all. >> and if that happens , if this >> and if that happens, if this gets down and . the troika gets bogged down and. the troika once again of the lords and the courts, do you think people, the biggest danger perhaps for voters is apathy. >> yes. i think one of the big dangers, and dangers, i think, is apathy. and a stay at home. and that a lot of stay at home. and that can have quite a profound impact on think we've seen can have quite a profound impact on in think we've seen can have quite a profound impact on in the think we've seen can have quite a profound impact on in the past.|ink we've seen can have quite a profound impact on in the past. in( we've seen can have quite a profound impact on in the past. in 97,5've seen can have quite a profound impact on in the past. in 97, it's seen that in the past. in 97, it's often that, you know, tony often said that, you know, tony blair stormed his way to blair sort of stormed his way to downing street. yeah, there's

some truth to that. there some truth to that. but there was an lot of apathy, was also an awful lot of apathy, an lot of people staying an awful lot of people staying at home. i remember knocking on doors and 97, a lot of doors in 96 and 97, a lot of people saying, we're just not turning enough . turning out. we've had enough. and think, a real and that is, i think, a real danger needs to be addressed. >> and opposition, of >> and the opposition, of course, will crawl over broken glass their away. course, will crawl over broken glas i their away. course, will crawl over broken glasi guess their away. course, will crawl over broken glasi guess the big away. course, will crawl over broken glasi guess the big question, and i guess the big question, patrick, the apathy turn patrick, is will the apathy turn into, know, more passion for into, you know, more passion for the reform party to actually get some votes, gentlemen? fascinating conversation. thank you very much. henry smith, patrick , thanks for patrick o'flynn, thanks for joining the studio. great joining us in the studio. great debate well let's quickly debate there. well let's quickly now turn our attention back to the ongoing delays the rwanda the ongoing delays to the rwanda bill alongside the conservative mp. we've that bit. mp. we've just done that bit. there's lots more to come between now 6:00. talk between now and 6:00. i'll talk about the convicted rochdale grooming gang leader still living in the uk , an astonishing living in the uk, an astonishing nine years after he was ordered to be deported. but first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst .

middlehurst. >> martin. thank you. good afternoon. the top stories. the prime minister says the uk will not hesitate to take further action in yemen following a spate of attacks on commercial shipping in the red sea. rishi sunak today described the attacks by the iranian backed militants as illegal and unacceptable. it comes after last night's joint strike with the us , which took place after the us, which took place after a meeting with president biden. the labour leader, sir keir starmer, backs the government's action and mr sunak signalled new sanctions, which will be announced in the coming days, warning attacks will warning further attacks will continue to be met with a response . the met office is response. the met office is warning of strong winds and heavy rain across the whole of the uk, as a new storm sweeps in. storm jocelyn is battering britain with amber and yellow alerts, particularly in the north. issued for much of the country. yellow warnings for rain and ice are also in place across northern and eastern parts of scotland, with scotrail saying there'll be no trains from 7:00 tonight or tomorrow morning while lines are checked for damage and the for people

who are found dead at a house in norwich have been identified. two adults have been named as 45 year old butler may kutchinsky and 36 year old cantika sukh p&o. meanwhile two young girls were named as yasmin and natasha kuchinskaya . a university kuchinskaya. a university student showed incredible bravery when she tried to fight off a killer in nottingham, a court heard today. june last yean court heard today. june last year, 32 year old waldo callachan killed barnaby weber and grace o'malley kumar, who tried to help barnaby. he also killed school caretaker ian coates. the killer had his not guilty plea accepted on the grounds of diminished responsibility. he also admitted trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks . more background to all attacks. more background to all those stories by heading to our website, gbnews.com . website, gbnews.com. >> for a valuable legacy, your

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really achieved really seem to have achieved that second one that much. so is the second one going anything ? what going to change anything? what then? third fourth one? then? a third one, a fourth one? what's here? so what's the end game here? so i want look forward to that. want to look forward to that. also as well. we've got some fiscal headroom. so some money unexpected money basically. so what do we reckon jeremy hunt should with it. give us tax should do with it. give us tax cuts in cuts or invest more money in pubuc cuts or invest more money in public services. or perhaps do nothing at all? i also want to talk about the mental health of the young . apparently, one day a the young. apparently, one day a week, martin, they're apparently not because of not that productive because of issues mental issues related to their mental health. what's going on with all of this? and last not least, of this? and last but not least, i you talking about i just heard you talking about the situation in the the rwanda situation in the house of lords last night. the rwanda situation in the house of lords last night . on my house of lords last night. on my panel is baroness panel tonight is baroness jacqueline foster. so be jacqueline foster. so i'll be putting to her that perhaps putting it to her that perhaps it's putting it to her that perhaps wsfime putting it to her that perhaps it's time for serious reform of the lords . elected the house of lords. elected officials perhaps relocated it out of london, maybe even scrapping it together. who knows ? >> ?- >> hm. 7_ >> hm. and, ? >> hm. and, jeeves, 7 >> hm. and, jeeves, that thing about people taking a day off work because they're fragile. that struck me . this generation that struck me. this generation snowflake thing . we see so much snowflake thing. we see so much stuff about the younger skills

being valued, older people thrown on the scrappy. but this makes the makes the clear case older workers can be depended on while the younger ones have a duvet day. >> well, i can tell you right? one of my panel tonight is of the younger age group, and one of them is of the slightly older one, and they're completely disagree on this topic. so that will be interesting. some say it's nice that we're finally talking about mental health and open with it. other people say that mental health is new that mental health is the new bad back. >> can probably guess >> yeah, you can probably guess which of fence i'm on which side of the fence i'm on there, fantastic menu as there, jeeves. fantastic menu as even there, jeeves. fantastic menu as ever. co six till 7 pm. ever. dewbs& co six till 7 pm. don't miss that. now to news of what could be a huge step forward in the battle with alzheimer's . a simple blood test alzheimer's. a simple blood test could be just as accurate as painful and invasive . lumbar painful and invasive. lumbar punctures for detecting the disease. measuring levels of a protein in the blood could be just as good as providing proving the signs of alzheimer's and to discuss this, i'm joined now by shawn gregory from the

alzheimer's society. shawn, thank you so much for joining us. this will be a huge comfort to many , many people out there . to many, many people out there. tell us more about it. >> well, this is really , really >> well, this is really, really exciting news in our journey to try and improve the way that we diagnose the different diseases of the brain that cause dementia, dementia is the biggest killer in the uk. >> and yet we know that more than a third of people who are living with dementia don't actually . and living with dementia don't actualiabsolutely . and living with dementia don't actualiabsolutely crucial . and living with dementia don't actualiabsolutely crucial that|d so it's absolutely crucial that we find new ways of diagnosing dementia accurately, but also we have to be able to diagnose it earlier as well. >> and this is a simple blood test. presumably you have >> and this is a simple blood teryouresumably you have >> and this is a simple blood teryour localably you have >> and this is a simple blood teryour local gp you have >> and this is a simple blood teryour local gp surgery. have >> and this is a simple blood teryour local gp surgery. hownve at your local gp surgery. how much of a foresight will it give you?i much of a foresight will it give you? i mean, how far into the future, if you like, could we see with this test? >> so this blood test is not available yet in the uk? >> this is still a research study. >> but what this research is showing us is that we can use blood to accurately suggest some people might be living with people who might be living with a of dementia called

a type of dementia called alzheimer's disease. a type of dementia called alz and er's disease. a type of dementia called alz and er'reallyise. a type of dementia called alz and er'really we're looking >> and so really we're looking at people who already have symptoms , and we're being able symptoms, and we're being able to see proteins are to see what proteins are building up, potentially in the brain their blood. brain by looking at their blood. >> this would be a way of >> so this would be a way of being able to detect alzheimer's disease also disease earlier. and also quicker. and we know that that's massively a massively important because a diagnosis is crucial to unlocking care, support and also treatment options for people living alzheimer's disease living with alzheimer's disease and sean, if you know you're going to get this or potentially you may have alzheimer's, would that be a deterrent for people going to get the test? >> and more to the point if you do go for the test early, what kind of things could you in kind of things could you put in place and mitigate place to try and mitigate alzheimer's , if indeed were alzheimer's, if indeed you were found to be more likely to get it ? it? >> so i think with this blood test at the moment, we're not talking about screening. so we're about people who we're talking about people who already disease already have alzheimer's disease . and we know that nine out of ten of people living with dementia benefit from a diagnosis because it can enable them access advanced care them to access advanced care

planning . also to get, as planning. also to get, as i mentioned, the care and support. and think that's really what's and i think that's really what's so important about diagnosis. is it access it enables people to access treatment as early as possible, care and support as early as possible. and it also helps people to take part in research as how we make as well, which is how we make these discoveries possible. okay >> sean gregory from the alzheimer's society, thank you. exciting. know, exciting. and, you know, progressive news for many people out there. great stuff. now there's and bad news there's good news and bad news this evening. apparently the end of the world is no nearer. but the doomsday clock is at just 90s to midnight. if you the doomsday clock is at just 90s to midnight . if you believe 90s to midnight. if you believe any of that stuff, i'm martin daubney news, britain's daubney on gb news, britain's news

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was ordered to be deported . ring was ordered to be deported. ring leader carrie abdul rauf was told he would be packed off to pakistan after serving a jail tum for child sex offences . nine tum for child sex offences. nine asian men were convicted in 2012 of a range of sexual offences against children, including rape , trafficking and conspiracy to engagein , trafficking and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with children in and around rochdale . children in and around rochdale. will join me now to discuss this is the barrister and writer stephen barrett. stephen, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. the simple question is this how on earth can a convicted grooming gang rapist still be in britain ? nine years still be in britain? nine years on? well it's a simple question. >> i don't think the answer is really that simple. >> it's that we have a domestic procedure to follow, and it's quite clear that that has been used to a huge extent to delay. so going back to the courts to

appeal and say, well, now what about this reason? you can keep me here whether we want to keep this system, by the way, is a matter for your viewers and a matter for your viewers and a matter for your viewers and a matter for the demos, for democracy to decide. um, i do think quite a lot of people are going to be surprised when it gets to sort of february, march and the eu actually kick off what they're going do on what they're going to do on illegal migration because they're intending to build very large detention centres in southern , to process southern europe, to process people in days and then get people in 30 days and then get them . now that that's i them out. now that that's i mean, if you want that, that, you know, that's and you know, that's quick and effective that's effective and that's what they're we don't they're going to do, we don't have a wholly have to have a wholly ineffective and incredibly slow domestic process. but it does look as though we have a wholly ineffective and slow domestic process. what we then did was leave the european union. so we had to agreements with had to get agreements with countries our own, but we countries on our own, but we succeeded in doing that. and our home secretary agreement home secretary got an agreement with pakistan that prisoners could offenders go could, that offenders could go back. could, that offenders could go back . and yet, for some reason back. and yet, for some reason that agreement is not being

upheld. now, again in the united kingdom is not some weak supplicant in this position . we supplicant in this position. we can use our powers of diplomatic leverage in order to make sure that pakistan obeys international law and obeys that agreement and takes this person back. but we have to recognise, i think, martin, that there is a small there is a percentage of the country who, for political reasons, entirely political reasons, entirely political reasons, do not want deportation to happen. and we see that and we see them. there was a young woman who stood up and protested on a plane. we saw a lot of labour mps sign a letter to keep to keep another criminal here. and that is a very they have no doubt, very noble and very firm political opinions. they're entitled to their political opinion. i have absolutely none on immigration, but i suspect that people with the that there are people with the contrary view. there are people who these people gone who will want these people gone and if they are and they should if they are able. in a democracy to get that policy if they want to. policy outcome. if they want to. and what we've lived through for far is a legal fudge in

far too long is a legal fudge in which people the word can't has been used far too much. so you can't have this outcome, you can't have this outcome, you can't have this outcome. what they we don't they actually mean is we don't want well, if the want this outcome. well, if the if want if the people who want deportations happen outnumber deportations to happen outnumber the don't want the people who don't want deportations happen, deportations to happen, then deportations to happen, then deportations will happen. >> we saw eight days ago, stephen, the report out into rochdale came out the failings of greater manchester police . of greater manchester police. and it concluded that children are still at the mercy of grooming gangs in britain . what grooming gangs in britain. what on earth kind of message does it send out to children in to victims, to survivors and to the electorate, to the taxpayer that nine years on this is frustrated. the legal process is being frustrated by lawyers, by activists. it feels oftentimes that the law isn't there to protect victims , but to protect protect victims, but to protect the perpetrators of crime. well the perpetrators of crime. well the point i'm starting to make with with just more often now is that there is all well and good

having a lot of written laws down. >> if nobody enforces anything, then those laws don't exist . and then those laws don't exist. and certainly the genesis of the rochdale outrage and what happened to those poor , uh, girl happened to those poor, uh, girl innocent girls and young women was a breakdown in enforcement and a total unwillingness to enforce the law. and we have seen other instances of the police being unwilling to enforce the law. and that does lead to massive i mean, that is just unjust . so i suspect we are just unjust. so i suspect we are coming to a head where the status quo will not be sustainable because , of course, sustainable because, of course, maintaining the status quo is also it's also a political position. so i don't want to say i'm against maintaining the status just think that status quo. i just think that we're probably going to come to a head where these questions are going answered, going to have to be answered, because if we can't deport some dodi does this, then we dodi who does this, then we can't deport can't effectively deport anybody. we don't have anybody. if we don't have a border with a country . border with a country. >> can i interrupt? the status quo. this will come to a head. how do you mean? what? some sort of a legal

of civil uprising or a legal kick back. what's it going to take before democracy? the rule of law is actually enforced because a great many people looking at this thinking law looking at this thinking the law is ass. looking at this thinking the law is no, ;s. looking at this thinking the law is no, it's not for a middle >> no, it's not for a middle aged barrister like constable robin start talking about, robin to start talking about, um, . um, but i, you um, civil things. um, but i, you know, the there's always the sense in that this country has democracy , whether people like democracy, whether people like it or not. i mean, even the house of lords yesterday was being made marginally ridiculous when individual members were calling themselves quite silly things. have democracy . the things. we have democracy. the demos will win. it will get its outcome. if people want things to happen vote for it, then to happen and vote for it, then it work. we are still it does work. we are still a functioning country. okay stephen barrett, i admire your optimism , but i just we've seen optimism, but i just we've seen so many of these cases time after time after time , it often after time after time, it often feels that the law is on the wrong side. >> it's not on the side of these people, these poor children . the people, these poor children. the victims of grooming gangs in rochdale, manchester, salford, all over the nation. it actually seems set up to protect the

perpetrator. stephen barrett, thank you for joining perpetrator. stephen barrett, thank you forjoining us on the thank you for joining us on the show. i mean, this in fact. stephen, can we get stephen back ? i want to i would like if we can get him back i'd like to talk this a bit more. talk about this a bit more. stephen, you're still there? sorry. we need keep sorry. i i think we need to keep talking about this because, um, you talk about status you talk about the status quo being what does being interrupted. what does that think that mean? because i think people watching this show, people watching this show, people hope. people want some hope. >> well , all we've so we've >> well, all we've so we've lived under a political consensus that has been very pro—migration for a long time. so let's take that. let's think about the rwanda plan . and about the rwanda plan. and whilst that's been operating, it's built up a very complicated, convoluted system of international law, which makes it seemingly and i say that with much import , it's that with much import, it's seemingly difficult to sort of enact something like rwanda or any other scheme that would get rid of illegal migrants, but actually because of how our legal works, because legal system works, because sovereignty with brexit, sovereignty with brexit, sovereignty is returned to parliament, parliament can do anything . when there's one of

anything. when there's one of the reasons mean, the reasons that, i mean, i'm i don't i'm being political don't think i'm being political when say that when i just i just say that members the house of lords when i just i just say that mem saying the house of lords when i just i just say that mem saying thingsyuse of lords when i just i just say that mem saying things which lords when i just i just say that mem saying things which were; were saying things which were silly in that are not so silly in that they are not so obviously true, that they're obviously not true, that they're just true . parliament can do just not true. parliament can do what wants , and if wants what it wants, and if it wants to dramatic action in to take dramatic action in defence of our country, which it may very well choose to do, the people or demand people will demand or may demand that takes dramatic that parliament takes dramatic action in order to defend our country . then be done. country. then it can be done. and my role will only ever be sitting here saying, yes, this can happen . i can't call for it can happen. i can't call for it and i won't call for it. i haven't got any policy agendas, but, um, we have a remarkable constitution. it's incredibly effective when it actually wants to . to. >> okay. thank you, stephen, for coming i just didn't coming back. i just didn't think we the conversation we could end the conversation there do. you do there because you do. you do give thank i give me hope. thank you. i appreciate your today . now, appreciate your time today. now, don't the bottle when don't reach for the bottle when you hear this, but we might be closer the end of world closer to the end of the world than think . whoopi. than you think. whoopi. that's according group of according to a group of scientists the doomsday .

scientists behind the doomsday. clock. for more than 70 years, the clock has been the symbol that represents how close we are to a global disaster this year, the and the the war in ukraine and the middle east, as well as concerns over climate, of course, are over the climate, of course, are considered to be indicators. considered to be key indicators. the today the clock was updated today and remained midnight. the remained at 90s to midnight. the theoretical of total theoretical point of total annihilation . well, joining me annihilation. well, joining me now to look at this and how the clock is designed and works, is one of the scientists behind it, steve miller, steve at the end of world nigh . tell us of the world is nigh. tell us about behind it. of the world is nigh. tell us about behind it . well about the clock behind it. well you know what we try to do is every year assess, uh , the state every year assess, uh, the state of the world in terms of international security in terms of climate change, in terms of emerging technologies that have large scale social repercussions i >> -- >> we try -_ >> we try to triangulate among those to assess, you know, how healthy is the state of our planet ? last year, we set the planet? last year, we set the clock at 90s , which is clock at 90s, which is unprecedentedly close to midnight. uh, and that was due largely to the outbreak of the ukraine war. the nuclear threats

from putin. uh also the continued , uh, inadequate continued, uh, inadequate response to climate change. uh, and, uh, this year we judged that, uh, things hadn't gotten any better . and that, uh, things hadn't gotten any better. and indeed, that, uh, things hadn't gotten any better . and indeed, we've any better. and indeed, we've seen a major, major war erupt with israel and gaza and then violence throughout the greater middle east. and so , uh, once middle east. and so, uh, once again, the clock has been set at 90s to midnight now since the days of nostradamus , people have days of nostradamus, people have been calling for the have been predicting the end of time. >> is this just as inaccurate as that? steve >> well , well, it's that? steve >> well, well, it's meant to be a call to action in a sense . all a call to action in a sense. all of our problems are addressable, and there are potential remedies. uh climate change, for example, we know we know what what needs to be done. we're just not doing it as a as a global community. uh, we're taking small steps that are steps in the right direction. but they're inadequate to prevent very large scale. uh,

you know , social dislocation you know, social dislocation coming down the road in the next 50 to 100 years. we know it's coming. we know what's going to happen , and we know what would happen, and we know what would fix it. and our collective action problems make it very difficult for the to , world to difficult for the to, world to take the large scale steps that are necessary. okay >> we'll have to leave it there. steve miller, the millennium clock is ticking as only 90s till midnight. you got 90s to have what would you do? have fun. what would you do? well, you've got 10s till i'm gone. after the break is gone. and after the break is dewbs & co i'll be back three dewbs& co i'll be back three till six tomorrow. it's not the end of the world as you know it. have a great evening. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. it's a wet and windy day out there. disruptive winds overnight as storm jocelyn moves in now. storm jocelyn coming just two days after storm esha is going

to cause further impacts because of the ongoing repair and recovery work. but it is a notch down on what we saw with storm isha. i think overnight, the northern two thirds of the uk seeing gusts of 50 to 60 miles an hour , and for the north and an hour, and for the north and west of scotland , the risk of 80 west of scotland, the risk of 80 mile per hour wind gusts. so not quite as strong as echr, but the potential for some significant impacts . nevertheless, we're impacts. nevertheless, we're going to see the rain turn to showers heaviest showers overnight. the heaviest downpours will be affecting scotland and northern ireland further south. some clear spells. nevertheless, blustery spells. nevertheless, a blustery start for all of us as we begin wednesday with some decent bright weather out there and the winds to decrease winds do start to decrease through the morning and early part of the afternoon, we'll see further showers across scotland. some thunderstorms here and there, but actually there'll be some sunshine in between. and for it's a fine start to for many it's a fine start to the afternoon, but for wales in the afternoon, but for wales in the southwest, some rain turns up of the afternoon. up by the end of the afternoon. here and it's going to be a mild day for of us now . thursday

day for all of us now. thursday starts off with the rain. i mentioned there, just moving northeast the country. a northeast across the country. a lot cloud away from the lot of cloud cover away from the north—east of scotland and increasingly breezy once again . increasingly breezy once again. on friday we'll see a mix of sunny spells with some showers in the north. saturday more wind and rain . and rain. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on .

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