i >> -- >> well . good afternoon britain. >> well. good afternoon britain. >> well. good afternoon britain. >> it is 1:00 on wednesday. >> it is 1:00 on wednesday. >> the 24th of january. >> the 24th of january. >> commotion in the commons. >> commotion in the commons. >> the prime minister comes out fighting after dramatic calls from his own benches to resign last night, rishi sunak accused sir keir starmer of being a human weathervane, while the labour leader mocked the pm for being, quote, bullied by his party. >> but did either of them actually land a punch .7 hm. actually land a punch? hm. >> for king and country , the >> for king and country, the head of the army warns brits will be called up to fight if the uk goes to war with russia because the military is simply too small. would you support conscription and insensitive sussexes as the king and princess of wales endure medical procedures back home? >> prince harry and meghan markle were photographed posing with the jamaican prime minister on the red carpet last night. a man who wants to cut ties with the monarchy. what the british monarchy. what exactly is their game plan ? exactly is their game plan? >> and the trump train steams

on. donald trump moves one step closer to the white house after storming victory in the new storming to victory in the new hampshire last night. hampshire primary last night. joe biden says it's now clear the donald will be the republican trump's republican nominee. but trump's party says the party rival nikki haley says the campaign is far over campaign is far from over. good afternoon britain. >> it was a bit of a febrile atmosphere in the house of commons, wasn't it, for that pmqs was a ding dong, you might call it . call it. >> um, well, a bit of a ding dong, but just, know, dong, but just, you know, hurling insults from one side to the other. it's it's all the other. it's all it's all just pantomime, it? just pantomime, isn't it? really. is. really. it is. >> schoolboy theatre. there >> it's schoolboy theatre. there was insults flying back and forward. keir starmer even forward. sir keir starmer even swore. you guys swore. i don't know if you guys were watching the live feed, but, starmer swore at sunak were watching the live feed, buone starmer swore at sunak were watching the live feed, buone point.ner swore at sunak were watching the live feed, buone point. we'llvore at sunak were watching the live feed, buone point. we'll bringt sunak were watching the live feed, buone point. we'll bring you 1ak at one point. we'll bring you that clip later. um, bleeps out, of that acceptable ? of course. is that acceptable? uh, quite unparliamentary , uh, quite unparliamentary, perhaps, but rishi sunak did call starmer a human weathervane

because he flip flops on policies here, there and everywhere with the wind. everywhere goes with the wind. >> yes, moves with the wind. but everywhere goes with the wind. >> �*know,oves with the wind. but everywhere goes with the wind. >> �*know,oves starmer wind. but everywhere goes with the wind. >> �*know,oves starmer didid. but everywhere goes with the wind. >> �*know,oves starmer did talth you know, keir starmer did talk about, of serious about, uh, a couple of serious matters , particularly childcare . matters, particularly childcare. the government did have this, uh, big policy to expand childcare , give parents lots of childcare, give parents lots of free hours and all of this . and free hours and all of this. and it does seem to have been an absolute sham. but of course, rishi sunak , uh, wanted to rishi sunak, uh, wanted to remind the public of, uh, of keir starmer's record as a human rights lawyer. yeah, he didn't actually that actually respond to that question, about question, did he, about childcare ? childcare? >> childcare? » m childcare? >> no. um, so , i >> rishi sunak. no. um, so, i mean, you do get the feeling it was chance starmer each was a chance for starmer each week. just today, week. actually not just today, but week lay out your but each week to lay out your plan for the country. it plan for the country. but it just back just seems to be a back and forth and schoolboy forth of insults and schoolboy taunting, which is a shame, really . well, there you go. really. well, there you go. >> a lot of people are >> i'm sure a lot of people are a fed up that, let a bit fed up with that, but let us did us know gbviews@gbnews.com did either them a punch? but either of them land a punch? but first it's your headlines. >> emily thank you very much.

and good afternoon. 1:02. these are your top stories from the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer accused prime minister of accused the prime minister of being by mps as being bullied by his own mps as today's prime minister's questions dominated by questions were dominated by allegations tory infighting . allegations of tory infighting. it's after sir simon clarke warned of an electoral massacre for the government. writing in the daily telegraph that the tories need a change of leader, the prime minister rebuffed the criticisms, accusing labour of not understanding britain's values . but sir keir starmer values. but sir keir starmer seized on the editorial, saying that tory infighting had descended into a long running soap opera. >> we've seen this story time and time again with this lot part t first country, second safely ensconced in westminster, they get to down the real business of fighting each other to death , the country forced to to death, the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film. >> you can see exactly why hizb ut—tahrir hired him in the first place, but he wants to talk about these things . even his own

about these things. even his own party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country . simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr simply doesn't have a plan for this country . mr speaker, the this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing . blowing. >> donald trump swept to victory in the new hampshire primary overnight , demonstrating his overnight, demonstrating his tight grip over the republican party's hard right. tight grip over the republican party's hard right . the former party's hard right. the former president took 55% of the vote, beating his last remaining challenger, nikki haley, while president joe biden secured a comfortable win for the democrats. miss haley, who is a former ambassador to the united nations, is vowing to fight on promising to stay in the race until super tuesday on the 5th of march, when 15 states and one territory hold their votes . the territory hold their votes. the union representing royal mail workers say it will draw up on its own report on the future of the postal service. that's in

response to changes suggested by the regulator ofcom , which the regulator ofcom, which includes the option of scrapping mail deliveries on saturdays . mail deliveries on saturdays. other options include slowing down deliveries, with most letters taking three or more days to arrive . the days to arrive. the communication workers union general secretary dave ward says ofcom is destroying royal mail . ofcom is destroying royal mail. >> he's thousands and thousands ofjob >> he's thousands and thousands of job losses. of course , but of job losses. of course, but more importantly, in some ways it's the end of a great british institution , a public service institution, a public service that's still important to the pubuc that's still important to the public and to businesses. >> if royal mail have got a leadership that don't want to deliver the usa , well, then deliver the usa, well, then they're in the wrong business and our view is, is that we could easily find ways of growing royal mail if you let them get on with the job, they will come up with different ways i >> councils are set to receive £500 million in an emergency bailout to avert a cash crisis. >> it comes after the government came under pressure from mps to

boost the funding for councils on the brink of bankruptcy. the funding will be initially used for children's and adult social care. for this and next year. however reports suggest many councils believe the funding will only prevent a financial crisis. in the short tum , mps crisis. in the short tum, mps will debate the uk's military action against houthi rebels in yemen as the prime minister flags further airstrikes if the attacks on commercial ships continue. rishi sunak resisted calls to allow for a vote in the commons after a second joint strike was carried out with the us. but mps will still be able to express their views on britain's involvement in the defensive action. a russian military transport plane has crashed near the ukrainian border . reports say it was border. reports say it was carrying ukrainian prisoners of war who were to be exchanged in a swap. the ira news agency cited russia's defence ministry saying there were 65 ukrainian prisoners on board, with six crew members and three others. reports say there were no

survivors. there was no immediate information on the cause. immediate information on the cause . storm jocelin has brought cause. storm jocelin has brought more travel disruption to the uk. just days after storm aisha killed two people and left thousands without power. the 10th named storm of the season caused flooding in york. flights have also been cancelled and motorists to postpone motorists warned to postpone their journeys for masters. expect winds to gradually ease from the south as the storm moves away throughout the day , moves away throughout the day, though , the top stories on gb though, the top stories on gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to ben and . emily. and. emily. >> well, there's a huge amount of turmoil in the conservative party senior tories have warned against another round of damaging infighting. that's after the former cabinet minister, sir simon clarke, called for the prime minister to be replaced as leader to avoid what he has called a

conservative massacre at the general election. is that helpful ? helpful? >> i mean, some would argue it's coming regardless , but home coming regardless, but home secretary james cleverly , he secretary james cleverly, he said it would be foolish to have further within the further dissent within the party. defence party. meanwhile defence secretary said secretary ben wallace, he said division and another pm would lead certain loss of lead to the certain loss of power for the tories. >> meanwhile, pmqs, >> yes. meanwhile, at pmqs, prime minister's question time sir criticised the sir keir starmer criticised the government latest government over their latest round of infighting. >> but he first country, second safely ensconced in westminster, they get to down the real business of fighting each other to death. the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film . eastenders ever put to film. meanwhile, this week we discover that britain is going to be the only major economy that no longer makes its own steel that the government is handing out £500 million to make 3000 steel workers redundant , £500 million to make 3000 steel workers redundant, and £500 million to make 3000 steel workers redundant , and that the workers redundant, and that the parents of thousands are being told that his free childcare promise is nothing but a mirage.

isn't he embarrassed that the tory party is yet again entirely focussed on itself? >> but he wants to talk about these things, even his own party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr speaker , the member country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing. even labour party know, mr speaker, he's not a leader. he is a human weathervane . he is a human weathervane. >> i mean, they've both got a point there. don't they? really? weathervane and also massive tory infighting. can't, can't disagree with any of that anyway. >> yeah. a shambles on both sides of the benches. it's actually quite embarrassing that that's similar to what some would that that's would say in america that that's these options . do you

these are the options. do you know what i mean? yeah the only two options available. >> well, there are other options. you can vote for other parties course. parties of course. >> meanwhile in pmqs >> starmer meanwhile in pmqs just earlier he also criticised sunak's childcare plan. and once again called into question the stability of the conservative party and rishi sunak's position i >> -- >> that isn't 5mm >> that isn't a plan in. and families across the country . families across the country. well, they can laugh all they like families are making plans now. they laugh at it. of course they do. families are struggling with a cost of living crisis, trying to work out the household budget, balancing spiralling mortgages , prices and mortgages, prices and eye—watering bills. and then at the last minute, they're thrown into chaos because their nursery says they can't deliver the free childcare. he promised. now he calls that a practical issue, but i preferred the honesty of whichever of his colleagues briefed to the times that it was not, quote, a complete show. well, there we go. >> we bleeped that out because

that was the, uh, a bit of swearing in the chamber. um, so shall we speak with gb news political correspondent olivia utley? that was a little taste of what pmqs was like today . of what pmqs was like today. okay. um, olivia, um , it was okay. um, olivia, um, it was a particularly febrile atmosphere. it seemed watching pmqs from the outside . any any way do you outside. any any way do you think, either landed any punches i >> -- >> oh, i absolutely agree with you, emily. from my position inside the commons, it felt very febrile indeed. both of them were hurled personal insults at each other. rishi sunak went down the culture wars road , down the culture wars road, which was quite an interesting tack. he accused starmer of not knowing what a woman is, uh, of fighting for terrorists when he was , uh, head of the cps. uh, was, uh, head of the cps. uh, he, he talked about his record in schools, etc, and keir starmer hit back by saying that rishi sunak made millions off the off the back of working people during the financial crisis. it felt very much like a

gloves off pre—general election pmqs. there was interesting reactions from both parties , as reactions from both parties, as last night when sir simon clarke wrote in the telegraph that blistering attack on rishi sunak, where he said that he would like to see him removed from office, there were worries in number 10 that mps would start queuing up behind him and that there might be a threat to rishi sunak's leadership. that is not how it played out at all. in fact , mps rallied around in fact, mps rallied around rishi sunak and there were all sorts of different mps who who publicly, uh, came out with their support for the prime minister last night. their support for the prime minister last night . liz truss, minister last night. liz truss, no friend to rishi sunak at all, priti patel as well. so it looked this morning, this noon, uh, as though the prime minister was, was actually on pretty sure footing . there were huge cheers footing. there were huge cheers from the tory back benches when rishi sunak came in. so it might just be actually that this

morning, number 10 aides are feeling quite relieved . it feels feeling quite relieved. it feels almost as though that, that that boil last week boil has been lanced. last week there were a number of rebels on there were a number of rebels on the benches the tory back benches who actually to for the actually refused to vote for the prime rwanda prime minister's rwanda legislation . well, now one of legislation. well, now one of them, clarke, stepped them, simon clarke, has stepped forward others forward and said what the others are that rishi are probably thinking that rishi sunak should go, but there hasn't wave of enthusiasm hasn't been a wave of enthusiasm , um, accompanying that letter. so number 10, aides will probably be breathing a bit of a bit of a sigh of relief. this morning. it was a nasty pmqs, and i expect we can see lots more of the same going forwards. the only time when we really heard about policy was when keir starmer talked about that child care , which we know is now care plan, which we know is now in chaos. i've been following this story since the beginning, when it was announced in the in the budget last march, and in september, i actually spoke to some of the biggest nursery chains in the country who said that hadn't heard a peep that they hadn't heard a peep from the government since the announcement that announcement was made. now that was ago, and it seems was six months ago, and it seems as though the government has only its act together,

only just got its act together, really, started talking really, and started talking about how it's to go, about how it's going to go, which, starmer pointed which, as keir starmer pointed out, eight weeks before the supposed rollout out, is looking a little bit dicey . so i think a little bit dicey. so i think that was probably when rishi sunak was on the shakiest ground this morning. otherwise it was a battle of flinging personal insults and no one really came out on top . out on top. >> yeah, thank you very much. gb news political correspondent olivia utley, who was there in the chamber notes for us. the chamber taking notes for us. uh, simon clarke has a piece in the telegraph calling for rishi sunak's head was pretty vicious. brute while he said things like , brute while he said things like, um, well, he said the concern will be massacred under rishi sunak's leadership. he said he's not solely responsible for our present predicament, but his uninspiring leadership is the main obstacle to our recovery. he's gone from an asset to an anchon >> yes . he anchon >> yes. he also said this is leading to an ever greater disconnect between rulers and ruled and has opened the door to extremists . he was

ruled and has opened the door to extremists. he was mentioning that biggest political that the biggest political crisis developed nations that the biggest political crithat developed nations that the biggest political crithat the developed nations that the biggest political crithat the electorate d nations that the biggest political crithat the electorate can'tions that the biggest political crithat the electorate can't get is that the electorate can't get what they need and aren't being given uh, are being given. um, uh, sorry, are being given. um, uh, sorry, are being given don't want. given what they don't want. olivia point there saying given what they don't want. olivithat point there saying given what they don't want. olivithat simon oint there saying given what they don't want. olivithat simon oint th had ;aying that that simon hasn't had much backing publicly from other mps. he said priti patel came out and rubbished him also. david davies . but the thing is, with those two specifically, they've got massive . pretty in massive majorities. pretty in witham something like a witham has got something like a 25,000 majority. she's not going to risk her seat at the next election savaging sunak, even election by savaging sunak, even if individual if he goes individual constituency and isn't the most important thing, whether not whether mps come out publicly to back simon clarke and attack rishi, but whether they hand those letters in to sir graham brady and of course, we will be talking about lee anderson's comments later on the show, talking about lee anderson's corsuggesting er on the show, talking about lee anderson's corsuggesting that the show, talking about lee anderson's corsuggesting that hee show, talking about lee anderson's corsuggesting that he should he suggesting that he should have the government have voted with the government on bill, and that on the rwanda bill, and that he'd take back job as deputy he'd take back his job as deputy chairman on, lee. if he chairman of. come on, lee. if he were offered so what's going were offered it. so what's going on anderson? on in lee anderson? >> i never want to lee >> i never want to hear lee anderson starmer anderson call keir starmer sir flip because that flip flop again, because that title belongs to lee how. >> now.

>> well, there you go. fighting talk donald trump's quest talk now, donald trump's quest to republican nominee to become the republican nominee for presidential for this year's presidential election momentum election gained further momentum last he comfortably won last night as he comfortably won the new hampshire primary. yes with most of the ballots counted, the former president holds lead his holds a 12 point lead over his last nikki holds a 12 point lead over his last who nikki holds a 12 point lead over his last who has nikki holds a 12 point lead over his last who has said nikki holds a 12 point lead over his last who has said ,iikki holds a 12 point lead over his last who has said , quote, the haley, who has said, quote, the race far from over and she's race is far from over and she's vowed to fight on despite suffering a second consecutive defeat to donald trump. yes. so for more on this, let's speak to gb news reporter ray addison, who taking a keen interest in who is taking a keen interest in everything that's going on in the nikki haley says the states. nikki haley says she'll fight on as the only other republican candidate left in the race is it worth her fighting on? >> well, it really depends. obviously she has to keep the momentum going in order to convince her financial backers to keep supporting her. >> i know that as of today, i'm seeing reports that she's actually increased her media buying spend in south carolina. >> that is, of course, where the next primary is going to be held. that's her home town as well . um, and held. that's her home town as well. um, and she's had several

elected roles there. >> and so state i should have said and therefore, of course, you know, it's, uh, it's somewhere where she would hope to be winning. >> however, the latest polling data uh, is carried out, data, uh, which is carried out, um, coincidentally, by donald trump's pac, does suggest that he's about 39, 40 points ahead of her older polling, which is perhaps not carried out by one of his pacs, is about 30 points ahead as well. so he's got quite ahead as well. so he's got quite a commanding lead and she's got quite a lot to make up . quite a lot to make up. >> uh, trump called nikki >> uh, ray trump called nikki haley an imposter last night, and said that she gave a victory speech when she, uh, when she lost. and she she's obviously failed to lead the leave the race. sorry. and endorsed donald trump. well, it was that typical trump. well, it was that typical trump savagery or was he a bit ott? >> no, it was really interesting actually. she came out pretty quickly after the polls had been closed and actually had just been, um, called for trump by most of the, the news networks. >> and she came out within about

an hour, uh, when , when he had an hour, uh, when, when he had only about a seven point lead, as you were saying in the intro, that's gone up to about 12 points now. and she at first you think, okay, she's going to concede. >> now she's not only conceding new hampshire, but she's going to campaign. to suspend her campaign. >> that happen . she >> that didn't happen. she doubled down. said she's doubled down. she said she's going on. and he going to carry on. and he admitted when he did his own speech he said, you know, i came out here to, say something out here to, to say something completely she's completely different. but she's made with made me angry. i'm angry with her, like said, for being an her, like you said, for being an imposter he imposter in his words. and he felt like she should be stepping aside. know, he had, um, aside. you know, he had, um, other challengers , vivek other former challengers, vivek ramaswamy and, um, other challengers behind him endorsing him. and uh, you know, i think he just feels that this is really his his opportunity now she needs to step aside. interestingly um, president biden issued his own statement saying it's clear now that this contest is going to be between myself and donald trump. >> yeah. i mean, i think it's clear now by nikki haley not conceding she's going to be nowhere near, uh, being looked

at trump's vice president if at for trump's vice president if he wins a second time. but ray allison, gb news reporter thank you very more analysis. you very much for more analysis. now joined doctor now we're joined by doctor thomas founding thomas gift, who's the founding director university director of the university of college centre us college london centre on us politics. doctor gift, can politics. um, doctor gift, can i ask you, please, this the vote last night was open not just to republican, but to everybody. it was a public vote. and i was watching us cable network tv last and you had a lot of last night and you had a lot of democrats going to vote for nikki haley, even though they'd never republican the never vote republican in the general election, simply to spite trump . so the result was spite trump. so the result was a bit skewed. wasn't it? well, i think you're absolutely right, ben, and it's great be with you. >> new hampshire is quite unique in can have crossover in that you can have crossover votes both including votes, both including independents democrats. >> and there was this big get out to vote effort by the left to try to get some of those voters to support nikki haley, if nothing else, to winnow donald trump's margin of victory. but even that wasn't enough. victory. but even that wasn't enough . and at the end of the enough. and at the end of the day, if you're nikki haley, it's not recipe for success to

not a recipe for success to court moderate and independent voters. if you're trying to get the republican nomination , that the republican nomination, that works general, but works fine in a general, but certainly republican certainly not in a republican primary . and so as we go further primary. and so as we go further and further into south carolina, into tuesday , and if nikki into super tuesday, and if nikki haley has any aspirations of continuing beyond that, she's going to have to reach out to the right wing. i just don't see it. the base is firmly on it. the maga base is firmly on the side of donald trump. >> were talking to anthony >> we were talking to anthony scaramucci hsi, yesterday on the show, and he insisted that even if donald trump is the republican nominee, he has not expanded his voter base . yes, he expanded his voter base. yes, he has a very ardent support from certain sections of society , but certain sections of society, but he won't in any way have expanded that. uh, what what are your thoughts as well? >> emily? i think that that's correct. but at the same time , correct. but at the same time, uh, joe biden hasn't expanded his circle of support either. and if anything, he's seeing a diminishment of backers within the progressive wing of the party who has to be concerned will not show up on election

day. so i really think that we're in this era of post persuasion politics, essentially , neither side is doing very much to persuade swing voters , much to persuade swing voters, moderate voters. and that could be because with this rematch, everybody sort of knows what they're getting. the writing is on the and so they've made on the wall. and so they've made up mind. and so it's up their mind. and so it's ultimately going game ultimately going to be a game about who can turn out the base. but clearly this is an unpopular choice. about 75% of americans don't want a donald trump versus joe biden redux. and yet that's what we're going to get, joe biden redux. and yet that's what we're going to get , doctor. what we're going to get, doctor. >> it's a really interesting post. >> persuasion in politics. there's a lot of truth in that . there's a lot of truth in that. >> yeah. doctor gift. um, one final question, you're final question, please. you're an in london who is an american in london who is going to be best for britain out of biden trump? of biden and trump? >> gosh . i spent so much of >> oh, gosh. i spent so much of my time focusing on domestic politics. i'm not sure there's a clear, um, you know , winner on clear, um, you know, winner on that particular contest . we did that particular contest. we did see more of a close relationship between the united states and the kingdom under trump. the united kingdom under trump. when boris johnson was prime

minister, but i think that was largely their largely just a function of their personal relationship . a lot of personal relationship. a lot of international relations just comes a personal rapport comes down to a personal rapport and when it comes to sunak, i'm not if he has much of a not sure if he has much of a relationship with either candidate. so if we're thinking about us uk trade deal, about a future us uk trade deal, i just don't see it as a priority . priority. >> well, thank you very much indeed for your time. doctor thomas gift. very to speak thomas gift. very good to speak to founding director to you. founding director of the university london university of college london centre politics. thank you. >> yeah, i'm not actually bothered who wins, to be fair, but i do love the further trump gets it wins. bothered i'd probably favour trump, but i'm not entirely i'm not i'm not totally in it. but it totally invested in it. but it makes me enjoy further makes me i do enjoy the further trump and like teflon trump gets and he's like teflon isn't trump no matter isn't he? teflon trump no matter what keeps what they throw at him, he keeps going and it just winds up all the best people. and enjoy the best people. and i enjoy that thoroughly. the best people. and i enjoy tha yeah, thoroughly. the best people. and i enjoy tha yeah, interestingl. >> yeah, interesting that all about who can about turnout will be who can get out. coming up, the get the vote out. coming up, the sussexes are in sussexes are again in the headlines. but arguably for the wrong reasons , this time over wrong reasons, this time over a photograph with the jamaican prime night on the prime minister last night on the red carpet. more on that. after

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jamaican prime minister last night . night. >> f- f— night. >> harry and meghan >> yes. now harry and meghan attended love premiere attended the one love premiere to celebrate the life of music of marley and while there of bob marley and while there they were chatting they were seen chatting and posing jamaican posing with the jamaican pm andrew , who has been andrew holness, who has been vocal about his desire to cut ties with king charles. so was this a little bit insensitive ? this a little bit insensitive? joining us for more is royal correspondent cameron walker. camera on some criticism levelled at the pair over this decision to pose with the jamaican president, while hobnobbing on the glitzy red carpet. yeah exactly. >> emily pose is the key words there, pictured alongside the jamaican prime minister which in itself is quite controversial . itself is quite controversial. beanng itself is quite controversial. bearing in mind prince harry is the king's son and the jamaican prime minister andrew holness, has for some time now expressed his desire for jamaica to cut ties with king charles completely and become a republic . we are expecting them to pass legislation this year to have a referendum on becoming a

republic, and this is just a couple of years after he met with the then duke and duchess of cambridge, prince william, princess catherine, where during that quite frankly not very good. commonweath tour that they they went on the duke and duchess of cambridge , the duchess of cambridge, the jamaican prime minister said to them in front of the media in front of the cameras where we are moving on. in other words, we don't want to be a republic anymore. so the fact that both prince harry and meghan markle have posed with them has proved a bit of a controversial , uh, a bit of a controversial, uh, pretty controversial , to be pretty controversial, to be honest, and could have all sorts of political and commonwealth implications. but of course, they're no longer working members of the royal family. they're to go onto the they're allowed to go onto the red they're dictated red carpet. they're not dictated to king charles or the to by either king charles or the british government so it's a bit of a tricky situation, really . of a tricky situation, really. cameron, i've got a bit of a problem with this because not only cosying only are they cosying up to a prime minister country prime minister and a country who, said, just last year who, as you said, just last year , um, suggested he wanted , um, suggested that he wanted to cut ties with the monarchy .

to cut ties with the monarchy. harry and meghan, who professed to be bastions of compassion and humanity and forgiveness and whatever else they're doing, this at a time when , um, the this at a time when, um, the princess of wales, kate , is princess of wales, kate, is undergoing or has undergone abdominal surgery, she's recovering in hospital. prince charles has or will be undergoing prostate surgery. and if you want to go that far as well, um, the duchess of york, sarah ferguson, she's dealing with diagnosis. are with a new cancer diagnosis. are harry and meghan. that's insensitive or are they just a bit stupid ? well, many members bit stupid? well, many members of the royal family, whether they're working or not, appear to be keeping calm and carrying on. is a key on. but there is a key difference, with harry difference, perhaps with harry and for example, in and meghan. so, for example, in the last couple of days we've seen undertake seen the queen undertake a number of engagements to do with supporting domestic supporting victims of domestic violence . just today, the violence. just today, the duchess edinburgh was duchess of edinburgh was supporting health of supporting menstrual health of young girls in east london. the duke of edinburgh's um, representing the country in south and saint helena. south africa and saint helena. the duke and duchess of sussex are posing on a red carpet . now, are posing on a red carpet. now, i'm not suggesting that the duke

and duchess of sussex do you know charity work or humanitarian work? far from it. they clearly do . but it's the they clearly do. but it's the timing, isn't it? as with everything else that's going on with, as you mentioned, the health of the king, the princess of wales and the duchess york of wales and the duchess of york as course, you as well. but of course, you know, there free they're free humans. they humans. they can do what they want. why? humans. they can do what they warwhy why? humans. they can do what they warwhy would why? humans. they can do what they warwhy would they'? humans. they can do what they warwhy would they be at this >> why would they be at this premiere ? premiere? >> they get invited to >> i mean, they get invited to so many events. >> they always go. a weird >> they always go. it's a weird events, don't they? >> special this >> well, special about this event. well, well, it's the opening event. well, well, it's the opethere's been a lot >> there's been a lot of speculation of speculation online. and of course, no course, there's been no confirmation either way. confirmation of it either way. but they were spotted chatting or networking, as some papers have put it, with the boss of paramount pictures, who is the distributing company for the film. bob marley. one distributing company for the film. bob marley . one love, as film. bob marley. one love, as we know , the spotify, netflix, we know, the spotify, netflix, spotify deal that the duke and duchess of sussex have was prematurely cut short. one executive called them grifter , executive called them grifter, says netflix. of course, they still have a deal with, but

perhaps some people are speculating they could be trying to cosy up with the boss of paramount to try and get a new media deal . paramount to try and get a new media deal. now that's not been confirmed and that is just speculation. but of course, seeing them pictured with the boss paramount pictures on boss of paramount pictures on the carpet , uh, you know, the red carpet, uh, you know, you can make up. this isn't this isn't them being big fans isn't about them being big fans of marley . of bob marley. >> then it's a it's about business. >> it's probably a replica of that time when, uh, harry. well it was meghan and harry sort of tagged along in the background when she was pretty much begging. the ceo of disney, bob iger, work or a contract. >> well, the girl's gotta eat . >> well, the girl's gotta eat. thank you. cameron cameron walker , our royal correspondent also. >> well, so they want some new apparently some new gig with paramount. what are they going to talk about. they've they've they've dished dirt. they've they've dished the dirt. they've dished the dirt. they've done the laundry. what's new. >> you can >> yeah. it's a story. you can only tell once really, isn't it. uh but hey, let what you uh but hey, let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. uh but hey, let us know what you think. gupews@gbnews.com. uh but hey, let us know what you think. gup ,ns@gbnews.com. uh but hey, let us know what you think. gup , the gbnews.com. uh but hey, let us know what you think. gup , the prime s.com. uh but hey, let us know what you think. gup , the prime minister coming up, the prime minister comes out fighting after dramatic calls from own dramatic calls from his own benches resign last night. benches to resign last night. we'll discussing that rather

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have created a fake terror attack on york minster to prepare for a terror attack. if it were to ever happen. >> yes, it comes in the wake of the manchester arena bombing, andifs the manchester arena bombing, and it's being coordinated by the north east branch the the north east branch of the national counter terrorism security office. our yorkshire and humber reporter anna riley has story . knock it out . has this story. knock it out. >> this is operation opportunity, a planned exercise at york minster to prepare emergency services for a real life terror attack . police, fire life terror attack. police, fire and rescue and ambulance crews descended upon the cathedral in response to a staged acid assault upon a vip visitor. >> a hostile vehicle and knife attack , and a siege, all attack, and a siege, all involving 300 volunteers. the iconic landmark is one that needs protecting , as it's needs protecting, as it's visited by thousands each year, including royalty. >> it's at least 12 months in in

the planning, this this exercise and comes at a really important juncture for the for york minster, for the police. we have here, it was less than 12 months ago. we had the king and the queen here for the royal maundy. so high profile, very high profile visitors do happen regularly at york minster. we need to be prepared. >> the exercise is part of a regular counter—terrorism programme which takes place across high profile venues in the uk to test the response of emergency services to a series of no notice violent attacks to stop them and save lives . stop them and save lives. >> as this scenario is really important for us to practice, sadly, terrorist incidents like this have happened in the past. >> the manchester >> we've had the manchester arena and the learning arena inquiry and the learning outcomes from that driven outcomes from that have driven all to train all blue light services to train and prepare . in way, and prepare. in this way, we want improve from things that want to improve from things that have happened in the past and this to do that, have happened in the past and thitrain to do that, have happened in the past and thitrain together to do that, have happened in the past and thitrain together as to do that, have happened in the past and thitrain together as blue) that, have happened in the past and thitrain together as blue light, to train together as blue light services challenge people services challenge our people as much we can. and we've done much as we can. and we've done that this evening so people that this evening just so people can the right way .

can prepare in the right way. should sadly happen in the should this sadly happen in the future, was future, the operation was invaluable for all emergency services, including fire and rescue, who saved and treated casualties at the scene. >> it's a long time in the making. is this, you know, it's not every day you get to run around the minster like we are and people with legs and and putting people with legs and blood everywhere. it's extremely important for us to one test as a fire service. our response and important for us to one test as a finrocedures. ur response and important for us to one test as a finrocedures. butzsponse and important for us to one test as a finrocedures. but two,ise and important for us to one test as a finrocedures. but two, to and important for us to one test as a finrocedures. but two, to test our procedures. but two, to test that multi—agency response and the procedures that go with that as well, to prosecute those responsible for a terrorist attack, it's crucial for police to interview all witnesses . to interview all witnesses. >> and a command centre was set up near the minster for police to hone their skills. obviously there's a long terme investigation that would come out with something like and out with something like this and we called the golden hour we have called the golden hour principle, is about principle, which is about capturing evidence as capturing that key evidence as early possible, because early as possible, because obviously, time goes on, obviously, as time goes on, people's fade, and so people's memories fade, and so that vital information can be lost. >> so it's really important that we get capture as much detail as possible from them at an early

stage. >> emergency services here in nonh >> emergency services here in north yorkshire are now more prepared than ever for a terrorist attack. should the worst happen . anna riley gb news worst happen. anna riley gb news york that's all a bit ominous, isn't it? >> we're being asked to subscribe to fight russia now we're practising for terrorist acts. >> yeah, well, at least it's going on behind scenes. going on behind the scenes. >> feel good? a feel good vibes. >> feel good? a feel good vibes. >> good vibes. but it's >> feel good vibes. but it's time through biggest time to go through the biggest stories. time to go through the biggest stori> well, i think rishi sunak was notable that he became the sort of right wing culture warrior on a few things, but rating keir starmer for instance, for allegedly not knowing what a woman is now, i remember a couple of years ago when , uh, couple of years ago when, uh, rishi sunak was chancellor and

he was asked to define a woman on a on a live broadcast and he wouldn't say he wouldn't answer the question, and he just said so he pontificated he just said, i agree with what boris johnson says. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> so not credible on these >> so he's not credible on these things. but i thought it was quite felt quite instructive that he felt the line up with the need to try and line up with the need to try and line up with the cultural right of party, the need to try and line up with the people right of party, the need to try and line up with the people have of party, the need to try and line up with the people have commented, the need to try and line up with the people have commented that and people have commented that he seemed to be getting a lot of cheering waving cheering and order paper waving from tory mps. so maybe that means the threat against has means the threat against him has gone.i means the threat against him has gone. i just say i remember a good few years now , iain good few years ago now, iain duncan to a tory duncan smith went to a tory conference as leader. he got nine standing ovations in his speech. six weeks later they dumped him . dumped him. >> matt, is it is it the case that rishi sunak isn't really a culture warrior? he's just he's just repeating the yeah, playing the game and playing a bit of pantomime because he thinks it's the red meat that voters want. i don't particularly believe him. do you? >> i think trying >> i think he's trying to reassure in parliament. >> i think he's trying to keep that of tory party on that side of the tory party on side . side. >> ed um, clearly it's something

that divides the left. >> clearly these types of issues are, you know, they cut right across base . so across keir starmer's base. so it's i think it's a sensible strategy in some respects for the tories to amplify these, these culture war issues. but i don't think it will take them far enough . just just focus on far enough. just just focus on culture war issues. i think they they have to find things on the economics side that are going to divide the left. so for example, if, uh , sunak wanted to raise if, uh, sunak wanted to raise the threshold at which you pay 40% tax to £100,000 or something along those lines , then that along those lines, then that would be something that starmer would be something that starmer would have to support. but lots of his base would, would object to. i think the next election is going be defined economic going to be defined by economic issues, has to have an issues, and sunak has to have an offer that, eh, addresses those economic concerns and be divides starmer's base. and i just don't see that he has that at the moment. >> does . uh moment. >> does. uh rishi moment. >> does . uh rishi sunak. well >> does. uh rishi sunak. well rishi sunak called keir starmer a weathervane, i.e. he goes with the wind, changes direction . um, the wind, changes direction. um, every day. um does keir starmer

make you miss your old boss in that position ? the old jeremy that position? the old jeremy corbyn, at least he stuck to his principles even though they didn't go down too well . didn't go down too well. >> well, you knew where jeremy stood on issues and he had an agenda and a vision for the country. i think someone like starmer quite terrifying. starmer is quite terrifying. prospect in that you only have to go back four years to see what he was saying in the leadership contest that i was working on a rival leadership contest at the time, but , working on a rival leadership contest at the time, but, you know, and that was for the left wing candidate. and there was no you divide on policy. you couldn't divide on policy. there dividing lines with there was no dividing lines with starmer whatsoever . um, and now starmer whatsoever. um, and now to see how much of a journey that he's taken, the labour party on in that time, um , to party on in that time, um, to really support things that are completely antithetical to what he stood for in 2020. that's very dangerous . and the fact very dangerous. and the fact that the tories, you know, from from my entire adult life, the tories have been quite competent at, winning elections. at, you know, winning elections. and moment that they've kind and the moment that they've kind of it's starmer is the

of imploded, it's starmer is the leader of the opposition , leader of the opposition, someone we really can't we someone who we really can't we can't really decipher who he is , can't really decipher who he is, what his agenda is, what his vision is for the country. and he's potentially become he's going to potentially become prime that's prime minister. that's quite a worrying prospect . worrying prospect. >> to be starmer's >> is that going to be starmer's achilles the that he achilles heel? the fact that he campaigned to get campaigned and wanted to get jeremy corbyn in government, no, i don't think so now. i think people . i don't think so now. i think peoquite . i don't think so now. i think peoquite while . i don't think so now. i think peoquite while ago. i don't think so now. i think peoquite while ago they care >> quite a while ago they care a little rishi has little bit. but rishi sunak has got a bit of a nerve. calling starmer a human weathervane. you know, so long ago rishi know, not so long ago rishi sunak was was , uh, telling sunak was was, uh, telling ministers when he was chancellor he didn't in the rwanda he didn't believe in the rwanda policy . now he it's the policy. now he thinks it's the most important thing allegedly , most important thing allegedly, rishi sunak was quite happy to wave through enormous levels of legal migration and, you know, now he's trying to be credible as a mass migration sceptic. i think the truth is that starmer and sunak are quite similar. really. neither of them are are big communicators or great conviction politicians behind patrick. well, that's quite, quite a vulgar way that some

people are characterising it, but sorry. >> behave yourself. >> behave yourself. >> it was a, you know, a nice turn of phrase from the i mean, that's reform's perspective, isn't it? >> it's the uni party. there's a cigarette paper between the two. uh, is there any inroads for reform , or is it just complete reform, or is it just complete pie in the sky? and also another question. is it just reforms aimed to annihilate the tories completely of whether completely regardless of whether they seat not? they get a seat or not? >> well, reform, including they get a seat or not? >> welitice,irm, including they get a seat or not? >> welitice,irm, leader ng they get a seat or not? >> welitice,irm, leader and ben richard tice, the leader and ben habib, the deputy leader, have talked about. they want to obliterate the conservatives. i think that's saying the quiet part out loud and what they should be telling the british people and the conservatives people is and the conservatives is. this isn't about you anymore. you're over here. are the new ideas to drive britain to a better position ? i think to a better position? i think that would be much better for reform. i do they've got reform. i do think they've got great prospects in the two parliamentary by elections next month. >> yes . yes, i agree with >> um, yes. yes, i agree with you on that. the tactic should be forget about the tories and that otherwise it just looks a bit bit weird . bit bit weird. >> i mean, who who gets up in

the morning thinks i want to obliterate tories . you think obliterate the tories. you think about standards or about your living standards or law order in your street, law and order in your street, and i just reform needs to and i just think reform needs to get those actual also more. get into those actual also more. >> we would be could govern >> we would be we could govern the better than this. so the country better than this. so rather than making it necessarily personal, do you know of die hard tory know what a lot of die hard tory members saying? members are saying? >> saying the day >> they're saying that the day bofis >> they're saying that the day boris johnson was ousted uh boris johnson was ousted for, uh , this is how they describe it, having cake in downing street from tupperware . and a lot of from tupperware. and a lot of the mps he helped get into power, their back on power, turned their back on him and him in the he and stabbed him in the back. he was you know, he won an 80 was the you know, he won an 80 seat 2019. was seat majority in 2019. he was arguably greatest arguably one of the greatest campaigners in conservative history. they ousted him history. the day they ousted him was they lost this was the day that they lost this election. do you think that's right, i think probably right, matt? i think probably johnson would in better johnson would be in a better position now. johnson would be in a better posuh,| now. johnson would be in a better pos uh, than. johnson would be in a better pos uh, than than johnson would be in a better posuh, than than sunak. um, >> uh, than than sunak. um, i think that the worst thing that could happen now for the, for the conservatives is another leadership contest. i think that the only thing that will save sunakis the only thing that will save sunak is if the economy starts to recover. um and then, you

know , he can go into an election know, he can go into an election with that record . and if the, with that record. and if the, the conservative brand is so tainted at the moment that a change of leader is not to change of leader is not going to give the that the give them the bounce, that the tory right thinks it thinks it is, feel like they've is, i just feel like they've lostyeah. people are so >> yeah. people are so disillusioned. i mean, i would say is some some say that boris is not some some great the truth great answer because the truth is johnson is a brilliant is boris johnson is a brilliant campaigner who betrayed his 2019. he was a disappointment, wasn't he? >> immigration. right. rishi >> on immigration. right. rishi sunakis >> on immigration. right. rishi sunak is a terrible communicator who betrayed the tory 2019 coalition. so he's got a double whammy of negatives. boris at least had some, but sometimes that's all you need. >> these days. a bit of optimism, bit of, um, a bit of character feeling character and get people feeling good minister to good for one prime minister to hold disparate hold together such a disparate coalition voters , though coalition of voters, though perhaps difficult perhaps it is very difficult without something like brexit to mobilise that feeling of unity. >> anyway. now have you noticed, patrick, uh, that we're being told quite a lot that we're heading for all out war, world war iii, as at least a war with russia and now there's talk of

conscription . i'm talking about conscription. i'm talking about this warning from the head of the british army saying that, uh, we may not be prepared in the event of the war or of a war, and people are going to have to, uh, you know, get their military uniform on. >> well, i certainly think , you >> well, i certainly think, you know, david miliband, when he was foreign secretary, once got roundly mocked for standing up at labour conference and saying the world is a dangerous place. >> but but , the world is a dangerous place. >> but but, but i do think in the last couple of years, obviously the world has got more dangerous but i have dangerous. yes. um, but i have to say, the whole idea of conscription, i think is ludicrous and antiquated , and ludicrous and antiquated, and the social solidarity in britain that we used to have in both the great war and the second world war, fighting as a unified country with a unified culture and a patriotic feeling across the political divide that's completely gone. >> so a bit of national service help with that? no i don't think so. 50. >> so. >> i think people seeing people like ellwood , who's been like tobias ellwood, who's been one of the liberal

conservatives, who's presided over the complete breakdown of our national culture and you see, uh, islamist mobs on our streets intimidating our school, our schools . you have white our schools. you have white working class people thinking we're always to blame for everything. we're unfashionable. we're told we're privileged . we're told we're privileged. that's the feeling that no one would know what they're fighting i >> -- >> you've got people who can't even the flag or saint even fly the union flag or saint george's flag without being called . we had that taxi called racist. we had that taxi driver from shropshire, the other who won that battle other day who won that battle with council. on what with the council. so on what planet are going expect planet are you going to expect people and for king people to go and fight for king and they're not and country when they're not even to fly their even allowed to fly their national i think, um, national flag? matt i think, um, you have to look at like, if we've got enough members we've not got enough members of the forces, have to the armed forces, you have to look that is. look at why that is. >> and years >> i mean, it's years and years of cuts defence spending. the of cuts to defence spending. the number, in the in number, the numbers in the in the have down the armed forces have gone down consistent . ali. and you know, consistent. ali. and you know, i'm sorry to do the lefty thing. i'm sorry to do the lefty thing. ibnng i'm sorry to do the lefty thing. i bring austerity . i bring it back to austerity. but can't have security on but you can't have security on the the the the cheap. that's the that's the reality. idea that reality. but this idea that we're heading for world war iii,

there's obviously a multi. now there's obviously a multi. now there's multi—polar there's kind of multi—polar world and um , isn't that, isn't world and um, isn't that, isn't that what the, the nukes are for? isn't that what we're told? all the time. we've got nuclear weapons a deterrent. so why weapons as a deterrent. so why why why are we at risk if why are why are we at risk if we've got nuclear weapons? and why about why are we talking about conscription the armed conscription into the armed forces? would you like us to give our nuclear deterrent, though? >> that was a jeremy corbyn policy, it not? policy, was it not? >> but but the argument, the argument safe. argument that keeps us safe. the argument that's made by proponents of having nuclear proponents of having a nuclear deterrent is that. >> but that doesn't stop necessarily invasion that we need fight back against. need to fight back against. >> i think you'll find that ukraine a nuclear deterrent, ukraine had a nuclear deterrent, gave up and it didn't really gave it up and it didn't really work out very well. >> well, they gave it up on the promise that we'd, uh, be there to longer had their own >> they no longer had their own nuclear deterrent. and also invaded. >> important to distinguish >> it's important to distinguish here service here between national service and conscription. of course, national is 2 or national service is 2 or 3 years, as they do in israel of military where you do military service, where you do some training toughen up some training and you toughen up and learn how advanced and you learn how advanced scouts, i guess , and

scouts, i guess, and conscription, course , is conscription, of course, is going to war. >> well, i'm sorry if we were to go into an all out war, i would expect and women this expect men and women in this country to step up. >> i wouldn't why why >> i wouldn't why would you? why would, when they would, why would you, when they we open border policy. we have an open border policy. we've got 500 people a day crossing border . crossing the border. >> the benefits of >> we take all the benefits of this country. you are british. you have a passport here. this is country . you should is your country. you should defend . defend it. >> does that include the small boat the 700 a year boat arrivals and the 700 a year people in legally ? are people coming in legally? are they fight for they expected to fight for britain what? they expected to fight for britbut what? they expected to fight for britbut why what? they expected to fight for britbut why would’ they expected to fight for britbut why would anyone invade >> but why would anyone invade britain? no natural britain? there's no natural resources. there's no reason for anyone be a ground invasion anyone to be a ground invasion of britain. >> well, if we're getting warnings from the of the warnings from the head of the army, the british army, that we warnings from the head of the arnin the british army, that we warnings from the head of the arnin dire british army, that we warnings from the head of the arnin dire straits army, that we warnings from the head of the arnin dire straits and y, that we warnings from the head of the arnin dire straits and itthat we warnings from the head of the arnin dire straits and it maywe are in dire straits and it may well down conscription , well come down to conscription, well come down to conscription, we should listen. or do you think just mongering think this is just war mongering and mongering? and fear mongering? >> i think there's certainly a debate going on among the senior forces , people, about expanding forces, people, about expanding their share of public spending, understandably. but i think it's right. what ben says, that we don't know what values we're

meant to be defending anymore. right so i think it's very unreasonable. and it's just unrealistic expect our finest unrealistic to expect our finest young men and women to be jumping forward to to, fight and die for their country when the country's giving no signal. die for their country when the countrwasjiving no signal. die for their country when the countrwas aboutno signal. die for their country when the countrwas about what|nal. die for their country when the countrwas about what ital. die for their country when the countrwas about what it is and there was about what it is and clear threat to the future of this country in terms of an actual land invasion, genuinely , actual land invasion, genuinely, people would step up. >> we're gonna have to hold that there because we're back in in there because we're back in in the couple of minutes with the next couple of minutes with this. up, sunak this. but coming up, rishi sunak accuses starmer being accuses keir starmer of being a human have human weathervane. we'll have more the rest human weathervane. we'll have m> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie from the met office storm jocelyn is now moving away, but it will still be fairly windy out there through still through the day, but still feeling mild with plenty more sunshine. this area of low pressure jocelyn you pressure is storm jocelyn you can see as moves away. we've can see as it moves away. we've still quite a few isobars

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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 on wednesday, the 24th of january. it is indeed now commotion in the commons. >> the prime minister comes out fighting after dramatic calls from own benches to resign from his own benches to resign last night . from his own benches to resign last night. now rishi sunak accused starmer of accused sir keir starmer of being a human weathervane, while the labour leader mocked the prime being bullied the labour leader mocked the prime own being bullied the labour leader mocked the prime own party. being bullied the labour leader mocked the prime own party. but ng bullied the labour leader mocked the prime own party. but did)ullied the labour leader mocked the prime own party. but did either by his own party. but did either of them actually land a punch? >> and for king and country, the head of the army warns brits will be called up to fight if the uk goes to war with russia because the military is too small. would you support conscription? >> insensitive sussexes as the king and princess of wales endure medical procedures back home? prince harry and meghan markle were photographed posing with jamaican prime minister with the jamaican prime minister on the red carpet last night this is a man who wants to cut ties with the british monarchy. what exactly is their game plan .

here? now we were talking about the issue of conscription , and i did issue of conscription, and i did appear to argue that, yes , it's, appear to argue that, yes, it's, uh, you know, we should all be willing to fight for our country if we're under attack. >> even you . >> even you. >> even you. >> well, this is the question, isn't it ? maybe if i ask myself isn't it? maybe if i ask myself genuinely, if i'd be willing to, uh. come on. >> all about equality here. equality of gender, then it becomes a more difficult prospect . prospect. >> so perhaps i was a little gung ho. >> w— >> oh, so there's two separate, um, conversations here. there's one russia would one about whether russia would invade the uk. as we were just talking about with our panel and separately , whether, separately, whether, for example, nato example, russia invaded a nato country such as poland, would you get off your sofa head to you get up off your sofa head to eastern europe and defend poland as part of nato? >> yes . and if i had sons, would >> yes. and if i had sons, would i want them to go off to, to fight in a potentially bloody war? of course i wouldn't. but is it i mean, civic duty? is it

our duty as citizens of this country to do our bit? i think if we were to be genuinely under attack , ultimately, if it came attack, ultimately, if it came to it, you'd have to say yes. >> but there's so much disillusioned with people at the moment with the state of the country, march towards country, with the march towards net zero, where people can't afford their bills, with afford to pay their bills, with the southern border, the boats coming migration , coming in, legal migration, nothing aren't nothing works. people aren't happy. nothing works. people aren't happy . so nothing works. people aren't happy. so when you're asking them that to them under that context to go and fight and give their life for king and country , there's for king and country, there's going of reluctance. for king and country, there's goirit of reluctance. for king and country, there's goirit doesn't of reluctance. for king and country, there's goirit doesn't helpf reluctance. for king and country, there's goirit doesn't help that|ctance. but it doesn't help that patriotism seen as a patriotism often is seen as a bit of a dirty word in this country. >> so how would you fight for your you don't? if your country if you don't? if your country if you don't? if you like patriotism, you you feel like patriotism, you can't even fly the saint george's without emily george's flag without emily thornberry that it's something suggesting that it's something a bit strange with it. >> so why would and give >> so why would you go and give your country under your life for the country under that concept? >> you think home? >> no. what you think at home? gb views at gb news. com we're going having a feisty head going to be having a feisty head to head on that matter to head on that very matter coming but first coming up very soon. but first your .

your headlines. >> emily, thank you and good afternoon. 2:02. this is the latest sir keir starmer accused the prime minister of being bullied by his own mps as today's prime minister's questions were dominated by allegations of tory infighting. it's after sir simon clarke warned of an electoral massacre for the government, writing in the daily telegraph the tories need a change of leader. the prime minister rebuffed the criticisms, accusing labour of not understanding britain's values . but sir keir seized on values. but sir keir seized on the editorial , saying that tory the editorial, saying that tory infighting had descended into a long running soap opera. >> seen this story time >> we've seen this story time and time again with this lot part first country, second safely ensconced in westminster, they get to down the real business of fighting each other to death. the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film. >> you can see exactly why his victoria hired him in the first place, but he wants to talk about these things, even his own

party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country . simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr simply doesn't have a plan for this country . mr speaker, the this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing . blowing. >> donald trump swept to victory in the new hampshire primary overnight, demonstrating his tight grip over the republican party's hard right. tight grip over the republican party's hard right . the former party's hard right. the former president took 55% of the vote, beating his last remaining challenger, nikki haley, while president joe biden secured a comfortable win for the democrats. miss haley, who is a former ambassador to the united nafions former ambassador to the united nations , is vowing to fight on, nations, is vowing to fight on, promising to stay in the race until super tuesday on the 5th of when 15 states and one of march, when 15 states and one territory hold their votes in the government says it's committed to postal deliveries six days a week, despite a report by ofcom suggesting that

some days could be cut to save costs. number 10 says the government will engage with the opfions government will engage with the options outlined by the regulator , but insists regulator, but insists deliveries saturdayswill deliveries on saturdays will remain. ofcom says it's vital the postal service is modernised to meet the evolving needs of consumers. other options include slowing down deliveries , with slowing down deliveries, with most letters taking three or more days to arrive . but more days to arrive. but communication workers union general secretary dave ward says the changes risk destroying royal mail. >> he's thousands and thousands ofjob >> he's thousands and thousands of job losses. of course , but of job losses. of course, but more importantly, in some ways it's the end of a great british institution , a public service institution, a public service that's still important to the pubuc that's still important to the public and to businesses. if royal mail have got a leadership that don't want to deliver the usa, well then they're in the wrong business and our view is, is that we could easily find ways of growing royal mail. if you let them get on with the job, they will come up with different ways. >> councils are set to receive

£500 million in an emergency bailout to avert a cash crisis. it comes after mps called for a funding boost for struggling councils on the brink of bankruptcy . the money will bankruptcy. the money will initially be used for children's and adult social care over the next 18 months. however, reports suggest many councils believe the funding will only prevent a financial crisis in the short time . a russian military time. a russian military transport plane has crashed near the ukrainian border. transport plane has crashed near the ukrainian border . reports the ukrainian border. reports say it was carrying ukrainian prisoners of war who were due to be exchanged in a swap. the ira news agency cited russia's defence ministry saying there were 65 ukrainian prisoners on board, with six crew members and three others. reports say there were no survivors. there was no immediate information on the cause. immediate information on the cause . scotrail is now resuming cause. scotrail is now resuming its services after trains were suspended last night due to storm jocelyn . these are live storm jocelyn. these are live pictures coming to us from the shetland islands , where, as you shetland islands, where, as you can see, conditions are still quite blustery. the storm left

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to ben and . emily. to ben and. emily. >> welcome back. it's 2:08. you're with ben and emily on good afternoon britain on gb news. i'm going to read you one very quick email from lisa who says my granddaughter's new boyfriend. both 15, wants to join the army . she says it's join the army. she says it's been his dream since he was seven. we think he just wants to get swindon . get out of swindon. >> well, there you go. swindon's young recruit. >> like swindon, by the way, >> i like swindon, by the way, to of balance. to add a bit of balance. swindon's a place. swindon's a nice place. >> a balance . well, >> had a bit of balance. well, there um, keep your there you go. um, keep your views coming in on the conscription debate. it seems we're very divided. yeah. >> we'll get stuck into a few or more of those emails in a bit, but let's move to the situation with the conservatives and rishi sunak. senior tories have warned against another round of damaging infighting after former cabinet minister sir simon clarke for sunak, clarke called for rishi sunak, the prime minister, to be replaced leader to avoid what replaced as leader to avoid what he has called a conservative massacre the general

election. >> yes, it was strong stuff from sir simon, home secretary james cleverly said. it would be foolish to have further dissent within the party. meanwhile, foolish to have further dissent within defence 1. meanwhile, foolish to have further dissent within defence secretary|ile, foolish to have further dissent within defence secretary ben former defence secretary ben wallace said division and another prime minister would lead to the certain loss of power. >> meanwhile , at prime >> meanwhile, at prime minister's questions a bit earlier today , sir keir starmer earlier today, sir keir starmer criticised the government over their infighting i >> -- >> party lam >> party first country second safely ensconced in west minster, they get down to the real business of fighting each other to death. the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film. meanwhile all this week we discover that britain is going to be the only major economy that no longer makes its own steel, that the government is handing out. £500 million to make 3000 steel workers redundant , make 3000 steel workers redundant, and that the parents of thousands are being told that his free childcare promise is nothing but a mirage, isn't he

embarrassed that the tory party is yet again entirely focussed on itself ? on itself? >> but he wants to talk about these things. even his own party. we are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr speaker , for this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger , sticks it in the air his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing . even labour party is blowing. even labour party know, mr speaker , he's not know, mr speaker, he's not a leader. he is a human weathervane. yeah well, there we go. >> a bit of back and forth in the chamber . >> a bit of back and forth in the chamber. now, the labour leader also criticised the prime minister's childcare plan and once again he called into question the stability of the conservative and sunak's conservative party and sunak's position . position. >> isn't a plan. and >> that isn't a plan. and families across the country, well, they can laugh all they like. families are making plans now . they're laughing it. of

now. they're laughing it. of course they do. families are struggling with a cost of living crisis , trying to work out the crisis, trying to work out the household budget, balancing spiralling mortgages, prices and eye—watering bills, and then at the last minute, they're thrown into chaos because their nursery says they can't deliver the free childcare. he promised . but now childcare. he promised. but now he calls that a practical issue . he calls that a practical issue. but i preferred the honesty of whichever of his colleagues briefed to the times that it was not a complete show. who was it who briefed that , gosh , language. >> oh, so why did he why did he turn slightly common then when he was like, who was it? who was it ? where did that come from? it? where did that come from? >> sort of you >> you know, it's sort of you know, wants to he wants know, he wants to he wants to look eastenders, know, he wants to he wants to loo sounded eastenders, know, he wants to he wants to loo sounded like eastenders, know, he wants to he wants to loosounded like he eastenders, know, he wants to he wants to loo sounded like he was enders, know, he wants to he wants to loosounded like he was sounded he sounded like he was sounded like was mitchell like he was peggy mitchell behind bar. behind the bar. >> it anyway ? >> who was it anyway? >> who was it anyway? >> from peggy mitchell. let's now gp. now speak to gp. >> gp news political editor christopher hope, who's in westminster. christopher, you

tweeted some time ago saying that simon clark's attempts to oust rishi sunak, according to senior tory figures you'd spoken to, seems to have fizzled out already. one figure told you this coup won't have lasted 24 hours. is it dead in the water already? yeah. is he looking a bit silly? >> christopher ? it does feel >> christopher? it does feel he's gone about this the wrong way . way. >> i mean, the letter he wrote last night talked about in january. were still in january. we were still in january. we were still in january. the letter felt like it was a letter to go out , probably was a letter to go out, probably after after the possible after the after the possible double by—election defeat for the tory party on february the 15th, that the kingswood and wellingborough by elections . and wellingborough by elections. and then that would be looking back on this event called the popular conservativism rally, where simon clark was a key speaker alongside liz truss. jacob rees—mogg, our colleague at gb news, and ronald jayawardena. that's on the 6th of february. instead he's gone early with his letter and it's kind of jeopardised other things . so jeopardised other things. so i understand this popular conservatism event. other

speakers now may be forced to pull out because it now looks like it's some kind of, um, alternative tory party resistance plan or something against rishi sunak. i mean , it against rishi sunak. i mean, it seems the wrong way round and the strategy here, if it is to destabilise the pm, is being a bit wobbly. um, having said that, i did get a text last night on my whatsapp, which was, let me tell you, it was alive last with with mps , last night with with tory mps, many what on earth is many mps saying what on earth is clark to? but another one clark up to? but another one also interesting, said also quite interesting, said that one idea being mooted at the moment is a newt gingrich style 100 day contract with britain . now that goes back to britain. now that goes back to newt gingrich , who was the newt gingrich, who was the republican senator back in 1994, published a contract with america ahead of the november midterms. and the republican party party ran ran away to victory . so the idea is that victory. so the idea is that someone like penny mordaunt could be installed as prime minister. she has a quick 100 days, then an election . this is

days, then an election. this is the kind of thing i'm hearing. i mean, there's no real credibility to it that no one really thinks that rishi sunak will be replaced. it is in the minds of some on the right, some maybe some truss, some supporters of liz truss think it. boris johnson it. borrow cites boris johnson supporters , otherwise, you supporters, but otherwise, you know , it is a bit fanciful. know, it is a bit fanciful. i did think looking back at that, that pmqs. i'm sorry that pmqs. sunak was very defensive. he basically went through the greatest hits of all the things he keir starmer in he can say about keir starmer in about five minutes, just to try and team behind him and show his team behind him that he's in charge. >> yeah, mean, chris, uh, >> yeah, i mean, chris, uh, there may be some logic to wanting to replace rishi sunak. he's not exactly polling well , he's not exactly polling well, is he? but i can't help but think for most people watching, it just looks like, well, it just looks ridiculous. you can't change the leader again without a general election immediately. surely >> no , i mean, it'd be the third >> no, i mean, it'd be the third or fourth one since 2019. um, fourth one since 2019. yeah. i

mean, it nuts really. i think having said that, of late , would having said that, of late, would labour rather face penny mordaunt or rishi sunak at the election? i think they'd prefer sunak. i think mordaunt does worry them. she does connect . um worry them. she does connect. um and she's, she will be a worry for labour. i think that is understood. and she of course she narrowly, narrowly lost out didn't to liz truss and didn't she. to, to liz truss and then tried to do deal. um or then tried to do a deal. um or try something with a fort. try to do something with a fort. um sunak and failed to get the number of mps required to enter that ballot in october 22nd. i think that's an idea. i don't think that's an idea. i don't think it will last. time is running out, and most serious people in party are saying people in the party are saying need to knuckle down get need to knuckle down and get behind now behind the pm. now >> okay? christopher hope, our political westminster, >> okay? christopher hope, our political thankiestminster, >> okay? christopher hope, our political thankiestnveryer, >> okay? christopher hope, our political thankiestnvery much westminster, thank you very much . um, should have stuck with bofis . um, should have stuck with boris johnson perhaps, shouldn't they? the tories. but we move on one view. >> oh yeah, we move on. >> the sussexes , harry and >> the sussexes, harry and meghan, once again been meghan, they've once again been hittingphotographed night being photographed last night with the jamaican prime minister. harry and meghan minister. yes harry and meghan attended the one love premiere

to celebrate the life and music of bob marley, and while there they were seen chatting and posing with jamaica's pm andrew holness , who has previously been holness, who has previously been vocal about his desire to cut ties with king charles and the monarchy. and he's currently jamaica's head of state. >> yes, well, joining us for more on this is the talent and pr manager, jonathan shalit. thank you very much indeed for joining us on the show. now, you're a talent and pr man, so you'll be used to some of your clients perhaps making silly decisions . clients perhaps making silly decisions. is this one, in your view, when it comes to meghan and harry? >> i like the way you set up the question by saying silly decision, which is kind of indicating viewpoint indicating your viewpoint already . see, i'm not sure it's already. see, i'm not sure it's already. see, i'm not sure it's a silly decision . ian. this already. see, i'm not sure it's a silly decision. ian. this is a movie about one of the greatest reggae star ever , and meghan has reggae star ever, and meghan has black descent, and so she's been ianed black descent, and so she's been invited to the premiere and gone.i invited to the premiere and gone. i don't think one can criticise some with black heritage going to a movie about

a great reggae star, but the headunes a great reggae star, but the headlines that have come out of it though, uh, at accusations that they appear insensitive, members of the royal family unwell in hospital while going through surgery and the like, and there with a famous anti—monarchist is there nothing there that you think might be problematic ? problematic? >> i think there are two separate issues. >> first of all, travelling when a member of their family is not well, well, they already live in los angeles, so they're hardly , los angeles, so they're hardly, if anything, they're going closer to their family than further away. closer to their family than furtlfer away. closer to their family than furtif they ay. closer to their family than furtif they go to jamaica, i'm >> if they go to jamaica, i'm not sure . so it seems to me that not sure. so it seems to me that both the king and the princess of wales have routine operations i >> -- >> they're not in a life threatening operation . and threatening operation. and indeed, the princess of wales has had her operation. i'm not quite sure why you would expect them not to travel when their family members aren't well. i mean, my parents haven't been well continued well and i've continued travelling, jonathan, travelling, but jonathan, they're travelling and doing

that to a place and to a prime minister who last year suggested that they would leave the commonwealth and remove themselves from links to the monarchy. >> it's not just the fact they're travelling when their family are ill, they're doing it at a time when and schmoozing with people who have, in some aspects, attacks the monarchy . aspects, attacks the monarchy. >> well, if you could, the king charles may say that's sponsible. >> he went to the celebration of barbados independence from the uk and flew over to barbados as barbados ended their time as part of the of the of the uk jurisdiction . jurisdiction. >> the fact is a dialogue is better, dialogue is better than ignoring. >> and i think because someone's anti—monarchists when we had a brutal slave trade in jamaica hundreds of years ago, i'm not sure they can be attacked for going with a democratically elected jamaican prime minister. >> if that's the policy of the country. i mean, barbados has remained great friends with britain, even though now totally

independent. and many could say perhaps that's a good way of keeping positive relationships with jamaica, with the brothers to the next king being there. i think, there are think, you know, there are positives well. i think positives here as well. i think this example of the media this is an example of the media in britain have having one in britain have won having one agenda. against meghan. agenda. yeah. against meghan. >> i mean, i wonder if it's, uh you make a good point there. you make a good point . but what make a good point. but what about what they're doing there. um, surely it's just to, uh, tout for business, you know, uh, schmoozing with people, potential . there's some schmoozing with people, potential. there's some media types there, some bosses of big media companies that they can try and get some work off. do you think this is more business than leisure ? than leisure? >> well, at the end of the day, unless you are lucky, sperms , in unless you are lucky, sperms, in other words, your parents giving you tons of money or you've inherited tons of money, you've got make a living. got to make a living. >> could previously we >> we could previously we criticised harry for living off the royal family whilst still a member of the royal family. >> he's made the decision to leave the royal family, therefore got to

therefore he's got to earn a living . living. >> i don't quite see why he'd be criticised making a living criticised for making a living because if he didn't make a living we would criticise him for off his father, for taking money off his father, jonathan, i your point, but jonathan, i take your point, but i it's more i think it's i think it's more because lot of because they've made a lot of money off the back of criticising the royal family have criticising the royal family havso always criticising the royal family hav so always that listen. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> we're all aware of what's happened previously, what they've been paid for on the books, they've published. but it seems to me that a woman of black heritage , going to a film black heritage, going to a film premiere of the most famous black reggae singer ever , is not black reggae singer ever, is not the most unnatural coupling . the most unnatural coupling. >> i think it's a and i can't, i'm jewish. if there was a movie about the greatest jew ever, i might travel to see that. i mean , why wouldn't why wouldn't meghan travel to movie meghan travel to see a movie about bob marley? i mean, bob marley is such an incredible artist. that's a great artist. yeah, that's a great honoun artist. yeah, that's a great honour. and if they get a houdayin honour. and if they get a holiday in jamaica well. holiday in jamaica as well. fantastic. entitled to fantastic. they're entitled to go sunny, nice places. i'm go to sunny, nice places. i'm sure the two of you are going to have nice holiday somewhere have a nice holiday somewhere sunny hope so,

sunny this year. i hope so, i hope so . hope so. >> my last holiday was in norway and it was absolutely freezing. mine was iceland last weekend —20. >> there's a boat, —20. >> there's a boat , there's a >> there's a boat, there's a boat, isn't there a volcano in iceland? yeah, you can see the smoke billowing as you come in. yeah. it's amazing. fantastic >> well it was absolutely brilliant to get your perspective, you've perspective, perhaps you've softened mine little bit . softened mine a little bit. >> jonathan, i do think i new thing is i don't follow the narrative of many people. i think i think there's a lot of criticism of harry and meghan that's unwarranted. criticism of harry and meghan tha i'm |nwarranted. criticism of harry and meghan tha i'm |nwa saying. criticism of harry and meghan tha i'm|nwasaying. all >> i'm not saying it's all unwarranted, a lot unwarranted, but there's a lot that's it's that's unwarranted. and it's interesting. overseas is their view much more favourably than they are in the uk? >> well, i'm not sure. the >> well, i'm not sure. in the states but we states anymore. but anyway, we could back forth, could argue this back and forth, but jonathan shalit, and but jonathan shalit, talent and pr very much pr manager, thank you very much for your perspective. interesting. for your perspective. inte now ng. for your perspective. intenow you're watching and >> now you're watching and listening to afternoon listening to good afternoon britain gb news. coming up britain on gb news. coming up this hour. >> wm this hour. >> be debating >> yes. we'll be debating whether time consider whether it is time to consider re introducing conscription. that's after a british military chief says that brits face being called up to fight. if we go to

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brits face being called up to fight if go to war with fight if we go to war with russia because current troop numbers too low. numbers are simply too low. >> patrick sanders , >> general sir patrick sanders, who's very outspoken on the who's been very outspoken on the topic dwindling numbers topic of dwindling troop numbers in years , has also spoken topic of dwindling troop numbers in hisyears , has also spoken topic of dwindling troop numbers in his belief has also spoken topic of dwindling troop numbers in his belief that also spoken topic of dwindling troop numbers in his belief that there ipoken about his belief that there needs to be a, quote, shift in the mindset public so the mindset of the public so that they're to defend that they're willing to defend the against enemies the uk against foreign enemies should they be mobilised. so is it consider it time to consider reintroducing conscription? >> well, that's the question. to debate this, we're joined by former sas trooper phil campion . former sas trooper phil campion. thank you phil, and former royal navy doctor aiken . navy officer doctor steve aiken. well, phil, i'll come to you first. conscription. good idea . first. conscription. good idea. if we face a threat . if we face a threat. >> um, not necessarily conscription. >> i don't think the press can soldier. >> will ever fight like a like volunteer. >> however, we are in a position where the interesting thing out of this was the mindset of the british people has to change. >> and to do that , you do need >> and to do that, you do need some sort of community based project people to take project for young people to take and involved with so that and be involved with so that their can change towards their mindset can change towards wanting actually be here and wanting to actually be here and contribute something go

contribute should something go wrong. don't forget, in wrong. and don't forget, in times peace you to times of peace you need to prepare so i think the prepare for war. so i think the generals, being very shrewd in as he's realised that as far as he's realised that there's problem. and if it there's a problem. and if it escalated could escalated as quick as it could do, would be we would in do, we would be we would be in a very bad place very quickly. >> so are you talking about national ? national service, phil? >> yeah, i'm talking, i'm talking about national service, but necessarily saying but i'm not necessarily saying national service is the answer. i that taking i don't think that taking everybody and making them serve and cluttering up an already small army with a load of people that don't want to be there is the answer. i think a the answer. i think that a community where community based project where perhaps could perhaps after a while you could pick you to pick people that you wanted to go on to the army would be worthwhile. teach go on to the army would be w lot while. teach go on to the army would be w lot while. people teach go on to the army would be wlot|while. people nowadays a lot of these people nowadays that learnt anything that haven't learnt anything about and all the rest about respect and all the rest of it, that a good few lessons so that they could, could want to contribute to the society . to contribute to the society. >> steve. um, say russia came to our shores , uh, should ordinary our shores, uh, should ordinary brits be conscribed to fight them? and also , as a second them? and also, as a second question, what happens if russia invaded a nato country such as

poland? would we be expected to go help out in the in go in and help out in the in eastern europe ? eastern europe? >> listen, sort of the war in the ukraine has been a wake up call. we need to be ready . and call. we need to be ready. and we've heard from admiral we've already heard from admiral barr we've also heard barr and nato. we've also heard from of the chief of the from sort of the chief of the norwegian general staff . we have norwegian general staff. we have already seen across europe . already seen across europe. people are now realising that, you know , the wake call is you know, the wake up call is there. we need to get ready now. the reality is, with an army of 70 odd thousand, far too 70 odd thousand, it's far too small. we need to be able to small. but we need to be able to create a structure that can be able to train people. we're not ready conscripted ready to bring in a conscripted army . we need build the army yet. we need to build the mechanisms to be able do that. >> and it's not just soldiers we're going to need. >> going to need cyber >> we're going to need cyber warriors. need, warriors. we're going to need, uh, people who can uh, all sorts of people who can fight and sort of, uh, sort of the information battle space. we'll sailors , we'll we'll need more sailors, we'll need airmen. and actually , need more airmen. and actually, we deal with our we need to deal with our countries industrial capacity because to have to because we're going to have to because we're going to have to be able to manufacture lots of things like drones. be able to manufacture lots of things like drones . and we just things like drones. and we just saw this example this this week.

we're not going to be in a position make virgin position to make virgin steel anymore in the united kingdom. those strategic issues those are real strategic issues that government should that this government should have been sorting out now. and we been sorting out by now. and we need with need to get on with it. >> yeah, you raise number of, >> yeah, you raise a number of, uh, points there . uh, of pertinent points there. would you agree also with phil that maybe have a bit of a that maybe we have a bit of a cultural problem that a lot of , cultural problem that a lot of, uh, this country uh, young people in this country just would not be up to? it wouldn't accept the need to know i >> -- >> look, i've sort of we, phil and i have both served. we have served with some great people from all backgrounds across all of the united kingdom and beyond . i the british . i mean, i think the british people , when they realise what people, when they realise what the is, will get the real threat is, will get ready because actually defending our is something of vital our nation is something of vital importance. and think people importance. and i think people understand there , but they understand it's there, but they also to have the ability to also need to have the ability to be able be trained and come be able to be trained and come into an organisation and be able to be used. that's the problem. we infrastructure we don't have the infrastructure to anymore . i mean, our to do that anymore. i mean, our reserves have been hollowed out. i we don't have , you i mean, we don't even have, you know, uh, large numbers of cadets got be

cadets anymore. we've got to be able to work at all these things. to build that things. we need to build that infrastructure up. and i think we're of time. so we're running out of time. so one things we should one of the things we should be doing having serious doing is having a real serious conversation this nation conversation across this nation about how we're capable of building up our armed forces and doing quickly. that doing it quickly. and that includes all the other things that i've talked about . that i've talked about. >> we've a lot of >> phil, we've had a lot of emails from viewers who said that why they and that. why would they go and fight for their country, for king country, put their king and country, and put their life line when they life on the line when they feel so with the way so disillusioned with the way things going ? they things are going? they especially people, they especially young people, they don't they can't and don't own homes. they can't and won't have families of won't have families because of that. problems with that. they have problems with immigration disagree immigration and they disagree with net zero and so many other things . do with net zero and so many other things. do re—engage things. how do we re—engage those people and get them , you those people and get them, you know, back on side with with great britain, right. >> it's one of those things having that attitude when you're disgruntled a with with how disgruntled with a with with how things are going things things are going and things aren't but when aren't going your way. but when the knocks on the enemy actually knocks on your door, then then things will escalate lot faster escalate extremely. a lot faster than you probably thought. and if said that to

if you'd have said that to someone, say, for instance, in ukraine years how do ukraine four years ago, how do you fighting? well, you feel about fighting? well, i don't want to well, don't want to fight. well, now you you? you are fighting, aren't you? okay, sometimes , uh, the okay, so sometimes, uh, the situation the response. >> yes. so, uh, circumstances dictate . steve, actually, if we dictate. steve, actually, if we did have a threat on our shores, people would just, uh, get on with it . steve steve, they're in with it. steve steve, they're in ukraine. >> they've seen what's happening in the middle east. they know war is coming. i mean, many people are now realising that, you got get ready you know, we've got to get ready and, it's the job of and, you know, it's the job of our government, our first role of government is look of our government is to look after to of our government is to look aft making to of our government is to look aft making changes, to of our government is to look aftmaking changes, and to of our government is to look aftmaking changes, and they:o be making changes, and they should been it by should have been doing it by now. rather than waffling on about of, oh, we've got about sort of, oh, we've got great britain, we don't need more people. that's absolute rubbish. the chief of the general staff spot general staff was spot on, saying be ready saying that we need to be ready and exactly what and prepared is exactly what we should doing. and prepared is exactly what we shosteve, doing. and prepared is exactly what we sho steve, the ng. and prepared is exactly what we shosteve, the raf, for example,

>> steve, the raf, for example, last year they they had to apologise for reverse discrimination by excluding white pilots from a recruitment scheme . come on. what planet now scheme. come on. what planet now are they expected to. i'm talking about white people, white pilots. they've been subject to all this diverse, diverse and inclusion and equality nonsense that has ravaged the armed forces . how ravaged the armed forces. how would you expect people who have been excluded under those circumstances to then go and take arms and defend the country ? >> 7- >> look, 7— >> look, we've 7 >> look, we've got this classic example of we've got a recruitment problem in the armed forces. why have we got a recruitment problem in the armed forces? because the outsourced recruiting that days when you used to go to a recruiting office and meet people from the armed forces invite you to armed forces and invite you to come the army, navy or come and join the army, navy or air and particularly in my come and join the army, navy or air andand particularly in my come and join the army, navy or air andand paandilarly in my come and join the army, navy or air andand paand join' in my come and join the army, navy or air andand paand join the “fly case, and come and join the royal have gone. they've royal navy, have gone. they've outsourced it. that's the biggest problem we've got at the moment. it's not wokeism , it's moment. it's not wokeism, it's the we're not actually the fact that we're not actually doing proper recruiting doing the proper recruiting ourselves. i mean, somebody has to ask the question, to seriously ask the question, you know, how can it possibly

take so long to get so many people who want to volunteer to get into the armed forces, actually get into the armed forces? >> yeah. steve, sorry to cut in there. i just want to give a last word to phil, because we've got wrap things up. phil yeah i >> -- >> i'm here. yeah. go on. >> well , >> i'm here. yeah. go on. >> well, yeah. well, your take on that, the recruitment process. what's on? why process. what's going on? why aren't young signing up ? aren't young people signing up? >> i think that there's a there's a problem throughout. um, i call it the three r's recruitment , retention and recruitment, retention and resettlement. if you get one resettlement. and if you get one of those three r's wrong, you've got now, at got a massive problem. now, at the struggling the moment, they're struggling to which means to retain people, which means when soldier gets out, he's when that soldier gets out, he's got poor in his mouth. got a poor taste in his mouth. he passes that on that word gets back to the person going he passes that on that word gets bajoin» the person going he passes that on that word gets bajoin» theand'son going he passes that on that word gets bajoin» theand that's going to join up, and that's why numbers down. and numbers have gone down. and obviously, as friend obviously, as my friend alluded to, of all this to, the outsourcing of all this to, the outsourcing of all this to private firms who are only interested in their own numbers , interested in their own numbers, it doesn't work for me at all. >> okay. great stuff. phil campion and uh, former navy officer doctor aiken, officer doctor steve aiken, thanks expertise. thanks for your expertise. appreciate it. let's get the news with tatiana .

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>> welcome back. it's 240. you had ben and emily on good afternoon britain on gb news the debate i thought on the conscription just then. yeah. it's, um , there's two separate it's, um, there's two separate conversations, isn't there? there's the invasion of the uk or would you go to say, the eastern europe to defend poland or nato country if russia invaded two rather different prospects. mhm. >> um, but there you go . keep >> um, but there you go. keep your views coming in. vaiews@gbnews.uk >> do, i do wonder, you know, >> i do, i do wonder, you know, all or gen zers. all these gen zers or gen zers. uh, they'd probably be protesting in favour of our enemy , as they do with sort of enemy, as they do with sort of the houthis or, you know , hamas. the houthis or, you know, hamas. >> they're not as patriotic as us. yeah. >> imagine, imagine us on the front line in donbas. you'd probably have all wokies probably have all the wokies from those london universities protesting . that we were being protesting. that we were being too harsh on russia. >> yeah, probably. probably hopefully not the majority though. let's reintroduce hopefully not the majority th0|panel. let's reintroduce hopefully not the majority th0|panel. political�*s reintroduce hopefully not the majority th0|panel. political commentator our panel. political commentator patrick o'flynn and the former spokesperson for jeremy corbyn,

patrick o'flynn and the former spokezarb—cousin.eremy corbyn, patrick o'flynn and the former spokezarb—cousin. thankzorbyn, patrick o'flynn and the former spokezarb—cousin. thank youvn, patrick o'flynn and the former spokezarb—cousin. thank you very matt zarb—cousin. thank you very much for joining matt zarb—cousin. thank you very much forjoining us again. now we want to kick off with a bit of trump. of course, had of trump. of course, he had another win, patrick new another win, patrick in new hampshire . uh, is he a sure is hampshire. uh, is he a sure is it is it is it certain that he is now going to be the nominee? >> well, i think it's all but certain. but the result, i think , still leaves his opponent, nikki haley, who's still in the race as you know, just about viable. wasn't viable. it wasn't such a landslide that she had no option but to fold straight away. but she just seems to me a bit too goody two shoes, a bit too conventional for the current, uh, sort of atmospherics of american politics. so i'd be surprised if she sticks. >> patrick, wasn't it a lot closer than expected because it was an open vote? you had democrats. i was watching us, uh, news last night, and you had democrats being interviewed saying , yeah, i'm democrats being interviewed saying, yeah, i'm going to i'm going to democrat the going to vote democrat in the general came going to vote democrat in the gener here came going to vote democrat in the gener here today came going to vote democrat in the gener here today to came going to vote democrat in the gener here today to vote ame going to vote democrat in the gener here today to vote for; down here today to vote for nikki haley because i hate trump. >> i think was a bit of >> i think there was a bit of that. on the other hand, at

that. but on the other hand, at some the republican some point, the republican party presumed some point, the republican party prwins ed presidency back. and it wins the presidency back. and i nikki the i do think nikki haley, the polling, shows, does polling, research shows, does polling, research shows, does poll better with non—aligned voters than donald trump does. donald trump, i think, is going to win the nomination and may well win presidency because well win the presidency because he out the sort of he can turn out the sort of american hinterland, but nonetheless , you know, there is nonetheless, you know, there is an argument to be made for keeping haley in the race and testing for another few testing him for another few weeks testing him for another few weels; all a bit depressing >> is it all a bit depressing that probably to see that we're probably going to see a rematch between joe biden and donald trump? >> i think it's depressing for the for the democrats because i think the problem that they've got lot of what's happening got is a lot of what's happening at the moment is splitting their their vote. so the democrat vote is divided on the middle east. the american is slowly , the american public is slowly, uh, getting to a point where it's not in favour. now of arming ukraine. um trump has a, i'd say, more introspective foreign policy . i'd say, more introspective foreign policy. um, that might appeal to them. and i think that trump is . you know, in a

trump is. you know, in a campaign is going to be far more dynamic than joe biden. i think that the democrats are, uh, you know, the they're probably going to lose if trump . and i can to lose if it's trump. and i can see it being trump, what would your boss, jeremy corbyn your old boss, jeremy corbyn have trump? have made of trump? >> say corbyn won in 2019 and trump course, won in 2020. trump of course, won in 2020. how would they have interacted? did corbyn ever speak to you about trump? any off the mark comments off the cuff comments? >> yeah, i think, uh, when trump announced the muslim ban, uh, he said he invite him to said that he would invite him to a finsbury um, said that he would invite him to a um finsbury um, said that he would invite him to a um , finsbury um, said that he would invite him to a um , look,|sbury um, said that he would invite him to a um , look, i,)ury um, said that he would invite him to a um , look, i, you um, said that he would invite him to a um , look, i, you knowum, said that he would invite him to a um , look, i, you know ,m, said that he would invite him to a um , look, i, you know , when but, um, look, i, you know, when trump won in 2016, i think the entire kind of corbyn leader's office were recognised that something different was happening. were they galvanised by that? >> did they have hope that maybe something could over something could happen over here, on the it was here, albeit on the it was a rejection of the status quo that hillary clinton was a continuity candidate in terms of the economic model . economic model. >> clearly the economic model wasn't people, wasn't working for most people, and offering and trump was offering an alternative so, know, alternative. so, you know, obviously wanted bernie

obviously we wanted bernie sanders to win the nomination. and in 2020, um, because and again, in 2020, um, because he was offering something different. and i think that if he won nomination and he had won that nomination and won presidency , then we won the presidency, then we wouldn't in this position now won the presidency, then we wouldryou in this position now won the presidency, then we wouldryou knowils position now won the presidency, then we wouldryou know ,; position now won the presidency, then we wouldryou know , ityosition now won the presidency, then we wouldryou know , it looksn now won the presidency, then we wouldryou know , it looks liken where, you know, it looks like trump might come back win . trump might come back and win. >> turned over >> well, bernie was turned over by wasn't wasn't by the dnc, wasn't he? he wasn't allowed the nomination allowed to win the nomination when he probably would have patrick, a trump patrick, what would a trump presidency britain? presidency mean for britain? >> , on the one hand, he >> well, on the one hand, he seems to genuinely like this country. biden pretends country. whereas biden pretends he has no english roots and is kind of pure, uh , irish. kind of pure, uh, irish. >> doesn't that get you a bit miffed? biden's continual comments . absolutely. comments about. absolutely. britain. so. >> so biden is snidey. >> so biden is quite snidey. biden won't do a trade deal with us. um, donald trump seems to like us. on the other hand, foreign policy wise, donald trump is quite a risky bet for us because he might might, might pull the plug on nato. it's not beyond the bounds with donald trump. he will certainly i don't think pull plug on think he would pull the plug on zelenskyy and do a peace deal with that leaves putin

with putin. that leaves putin with putin. that leaves putin with some ukrainian sovereign territory in his grasp, which i personally think would be appalling. >> i think i think trump's issue with nato was he wanted germany in particular to, to pay up and meet their their expectations . meet their their expectations. and it came at a time when germany was importing all this gas from from russia, all this natural gas. so you're relying on russia for your gas and you're underfunding nato. i think trump deserves more credit. he was the no war president. >> he foresee that the >> he did foresee that the reliance . reliance exactly. >> there's that there's that famous meme going around where trump sat around the table with world speaking world leaders. he's speaking to germany you germany directly and saying, you guys you're guys need to pay up. you're getting this natural gas getting all this natural gas from we're and from russia. and we're and you're underfunding nato, which is defend against russia. >> no , absolutely. but i think >> no, absolutely. but i think there is a scale of unpredictability trump unpredictability around trump that conventional experts in foreign policy and geopolitics would find, uh , very nerve would find, uh, very nerve wracking. it may be like they used to be a phrase in, in geopolitics about club mad, and that referred to certain middle

east dictators . but if club mad east dictators. but if club mad involves the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, there might be a case for saying that every every other leader is a mad, thinks i'll behave a bit mad, thinks i'll behave myself for a few years. >> patrick, sorry. to >> and patrick, sorry. sorry to bombard you with questions, but there recently about there was a story recently about farage farage potentially farage nigel farage potentially being the us. being the ambassador to the us. if won re—election . trump, if trump won re—election. trump, of course, called out farage at a recent. was it the caucus ? he a recent. was it the caucus? he said, where's farage? said, where's nigel farage? stand handsome guy? who could stand up handsome guy? who could nigel become a diplomat for nigel ever become a diplomat for britain? >> was said , uh, when trump >> it was said, uh, when trump won his first time, wasn't it that there was little movement that there was a little movement for a few days nigel should that there was a little movement for a feambassador?iigel should that there was a little movement for a feambassador? because uld that there was a little movement for a feambassador? because nigel be the ambassador? because nigel was politician was the first british politician in to see him, and people in the foreign office were having absolute kittens about that. that never serious . they that was never serious. they were. not beyond the bounds were. it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. >> this i think nigel would love that. yeah >> it's not probable. i would love to see it because of the sort of pompous people in the foreign office would hate it. >> you just want annoy them? >> you just want to annoy them? yeah. um uh, matt, what would a,

uh , a call between would uh, a call between what would a relationship look between, relationship look like between, uh, prime minister keir uh, a prime minister keir starmer, a president? donald trump? >> yeah, i think you can look look back at the 2020 leadership contest where starmer was asked, i think , um, who is he backing i think, um, who is he backing for? the for the nomination? and he basically said, anyone but trump anyone but trump presidency. he said that. yeah, that's see your researchers can dig that. >> trump won't forget that kind of comment, by the way, that no, i know i mean, rebecca long—bailey said , obviously we long—bailey said, obviously we backed sanders and yeah, backed bernie sanders and yeah, so interesting when, so it'll be interesting when, when there's that if that if there is that dichotomy. when there's that if that if the yeahthat dichotomy. when there's that if that if the yeah .iat dichotomy. when there's that if that if the yeah . well, hotomy. when there's that if that if the yeah . well, uh,ymy. when there's that if that if the yeah . well, uh, donald trump, >> yeah. well, uh, donald trump, does he have a long memory? >> i think he, he, i think he's infamous, isn't he , patrick, for infamous, isn't he, patrick, for remembering who's been to remembering who's been loyal to him, over him, who said what over the years. no fool on that years. he's no fool on that front in that the other front in that rally the other week, said, here's nigel. front in that rally the other week, been, here's nigel. front in that rally the other week, been withe's nigel. front in that rally the other week, been with us nigel. front in that rally the other week, been with us from. >> he's been with us from the start. that counts with start. yeah that counts with him. yeah. >> e he's w- w— >> he remembers he's big on loyalty. move to loyalty. should we move on to domestic matters? and this is the mail survey . domestic matters? and this is the mail survey. this and the royal mail survey. this and it may be that we see it reduced

quite a bit. ofcom are looking at various options in order to reduce their massive deficit. they're losing hundreds of millions of pounds last year. and these are some of the recommendations that it could go down to a five day per week or even a three day per week in terms of delivery. so patrick, is this necessary? we are subsidising the post office, the royal mail . yeah. royal mail. yeah. >> it seems, um , a bit odd, >> it seems, um, a bit odd, doesn't it? in the age of, you know, amazing technology that you have a core service that gets worse, not better, but then you think so much of our communication is now switched to other tech, uh , methods. other high tech, uh, methods. and also the profitable sort and you also the profitable sort of parcel delivery stuff. clearly, they're a big private companies involved in that, uh, post office isn't going to get back a monopoly on that . the back a monopoly on that. the sums have to add up. i see rishi sunakis sums have to add up. i see rishi sunak is saying i will never countenance having countenance not having a saturday delivery . i don't think saturday delivery. i don't think he'll be around for long enough to make a difference. and i think if we can get to a stable

new arrangement, which might even be three days a week of really reliable mail delivery, that people probably would wear that people probably would wear that well, i mean, anything that involved of postal involved redundancies of postal workers would of course, be battled by the unions. yeah and i think the public would tend to be quite sympathetic. and, you know, sometimes the postal union, particularly after all of the scandal. yeah, the postal unions have that air of unions have got that air of passport to pimlico and a bit like rmt leadership like the rmt leadership that they're quite smart they're kind of quite smart talking cockney geezers. but i think there's quite a big public fan club for that. yeah, yeah. >> matt, do we need to bring the royal mail back into national ownership ? ownership? >> yeah, i think we have to have a discussion about, you know, what what is the postal service for? and think is public for? and i think it is a public service. everything has to for? and i think it is a public serrun. everything has to for? and i think it is a public serrun for everything has to for? and i think it is a public serrun for profit.ything has to for? and i think it is a public serrun for profit. something:o be run for profit. something support the wider economy . and i support the wider economy. and i think the postal service being available and being active most days of the week is quite important to that. i think at this point in time it might that might change in future.

>> so other options >> we have so many other options though, don't i know though, don't we? yes, i know people mail people do rely on the royal mail , but there other , but there are many other competitors for people to choose from. some some cheaper. >> are, but i think the >> there are, but i think the market hasn't made things better in my view. i think that the postal services should never have been privatised in the first place. the fact that we're now subsidising a private company, a private enterprise, is not million is clearly not 50 million a yeah >> e them. and that's >> we give them. and that's until that's been in until 2025. and that's been in place and in 2012, place since 2012. and in 2012, we gave them 210 million. >> it does seem to be like the railways sort of the worst of both worlds, doesn't it? it's not. it's not nationalised. it's not. it's not nationalised. it's not completely privatised. so it's . uh, i mean, that's that it's. uh, i mean, that's that money being wasted. >> that's probably some of the few policies i would have agreed with jeremy corbyn renationalising the railways renationalising the railways renationalising water renationalising the water companies. um, some things just, you know, the market doesn't deliver those particular things. >> and i think you have to look at what the market can and can't deliver. uh, look, i just deliver. and uh, look, i just think this i think the market could deliver for postal

services. maybe not the type of services. maybe not the type of service our economy service that our economy requires . you know, every requires. you know, every practically every day . i mean, practically every day. i mean, that's the question. >> mean, we uber, >> i mean, we have we have uber, we deliveries we have food deliveries overnight. we have you can get , overnight. we have you can get, you know, day deliveries in you know, same day deliveries in 20 minutes from amazon. >> there a that >> there would be a risk that the market wouldn't take on that universal delivery obligation. thatis universal delivery obligation. that is every far flung . well, that is every far flung. well, the mail has to do those the royal mail has to do those loss making activities . loss making activities. >> that's part it has to go out to the country by the way, they share holders. >> investors in royal mail enjoyed a £400 million dividend in 2021. last year, they recorded a £319 million loss. on one hand, they're saying they're skin. yeah. on the other, they're they're plying their shareholders with millions and millions of pounds. that's outrageous, isn't it? >> , i'd have the >> well, i'd have to see the full context for for, the return on shouldn't on investment. but we shouldn't ever forget when you have these dividend lot dividend row stories that a lot of people , uh, pension funds of people, uh, pension funds that they pay into depend on returns on on investments in the

stock market so that money won't just go to a few people in manor houses in the cotswolds. there'll be hundreds of thousands of people whose pensions are. >> you know, i've got something to on that. >> you know, i've got something to absolutely. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> well, value >> yeah. well, look, the value of investments may go up as of your investments may go up as well as down. i mean, that's that's of if that's the nature of it. if something we do have something is, i think we do have this both this worst of both worlds situation outsource a this worst of both worlds sitlofion outsource a this worst of both worlds sitlof what outsource a this worst of both worlds sitlof what i outsource a this worst of both worlds sitlof what i think outsource a this worst of both worlds sitlof what i think the source a this worst of both worlds sitlof what i think the publica lot of what i think the public sector should do. and a lot of that up that money ends up in the pockets shareholders when pockets of shareholders when these making companies. >> well should we move on? >> hmm. well should we move on? because we were talking about the relationship? yeah . the special relationship? yeah. with the states. and it seems there's been a bit of a, a tongue in cheek tongue in cheek, uh, diplomatic row , bit of uh, diplomatic row, bit of a ding a bit of ding dong ding dong, a bit of a ding dong over make a cup tea over how to make a cup of tea and how not to make a cup of tea . now we can . crucially, now i think we can get this press release on the get up this press release on the screen for united states screen for you. united states embassy press release, january the 24th, 2024. so today, today's media reports of an american professor's recipe for the perfect cup of tea has

landed our special bond with the united kingdom in hot water tea is the alexa of camaraderie, a sacred bond that unites our nafion sacred bond that unites our nation . we cannot stand idly by nation. we cannot stand idly by as such, an outrageous proposal threatens the very foundation of our special relationship. therefore we want to ensure the good people of the united kingdom that unthinkable kingdom that the unthinkable nofion kingdom that the unthinkable notion salt to notion of adding salt to britain's national drink is not official. united states policy and never will be. he goes on to say the us embassy will continue to make tea in the proper way by microwaving it. there you go, a little joke at the end of that. but this is what a social media has given us, isn't it? these silly press statements and then we have a back and forth between embassies on embassies and countries on social media. >> yeah, i think the united states embassy in london has a bit of a reputation for trying to find a bit of levity and camaraderie in this way. um, as a, as a determined tea and not coffee drinker myself. the idea of salt in tea and i don't know whether this was a sort of

semi—serious suggestion. >> i think it was it was by an academic. >> i'm not even going to experiment with that, matt. >> trust the americans >> we can't trust the americans for food or any food or drink, can we not really. >> mean, i think don't they >> i mean, i think don't they have spray on cheese? i mean, that sort of says it all, really, isn't it? >> well to say that >> right. well to say it on that bombshell, we're it up bombshell, we're wrap it up there, patrick o'flynn matt there, patrick o'flynn and matt zarb—cousin, thank you so much. and the viewers for and thank you. the viewers for joining we've joining emily and i today. we've appreciated all your emails. nice ones and nasty ones nice ones and the nasty ones too. yes tom harwood will be back tomorrow , but thank you back tomorrow, but thank you very much for standing in for tom this week so far. tom all this week so far. >> back tomorrow . with >> we'll be back tomorrow. with a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of whether solar, the sponsors of whether on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office with me, annie shuttleworth. it will be a dry evening for many areas , be a dry evening for many areas, but rain arrive from the but rain will arrive from the south and west overnight and it will mild night that will be another mild night that as a front approaching as a warm front is approaching through rest of the day into

through the rest of the day into the west. ahead of the south and west. ahead of that, , we have ridge that, though, we do have a ridge of pressure that will of higher pressure so that will settle things down. so the winds should evening should ease through the evening and seen and any showers we've seen across parts of scotland across many parts of scotland will tend to fade away or fade away. a dry night for a dry away. so a dry night for a dry evening but rain does evening for many. but rain does arrive through the night from the southwest, across parts of wales, devon cornwall and wales, devon and cornwall and into northern where the into northern ireland, where the rain could be quite persistent. ahead that will see some ahead of that we will see some mist fog developing mist and fog developing low cloud hills and will cloud on the hills and it will be start north be a chilly start across north and east, very different and east, but very different story south and west, story in the south and west, much milder and that milder gloom smear feel will become more widespread through thursday. so it's going to be a much day than today much cloudier day than today with persistent rain, particularly scotland, particularly across scotland, bringing some hill but also bringing some hill snow but also across wales, parts of cumbria, southwest scotland two and into the southwest through the day. the rain will be fairly persistent in the southeast, though it should dry and it though it should stay dry and it will mild day will be another mild day tomorrow. on thursday, tomorrow. and then on thursday, friday morning we see a quite a blustery band of rain push eastwards across the country

that should clear through the first few hours leave, many first few hours to leave, many with day. but it with a dry and fine day. but it will feel a little bit fresher than recently. but plenty of sunshine on the for sunshine on the cards for friday. bit cloudier friday. a little bit cloudier but generally quite dry the but generally quite dry for the weekend. later . weekend. see you later. >> looks things are heating >> looks like things are heating up boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on .

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