gb news. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> it's 3 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of and all across of westminster and all across the uk. >> a few minutes i'll talk to >> in a few minutes i'll talk to our political editor, christopher hope, and the conservative mp south conservative mp for south derbyshire in derbyshire has just joined in the studio. >> wheeler. i'll be >> heather wheeler. i'll be asking her about rishi sunak. >> course , other tories have >> of course, other tories have rallied around prime rallied around the prime minister after a cabinet minister after a former cabinet member for him to go and member called for him to go and there's more graphic details from the trial of valdo calican, the man who killed three people in my home city of nottingham last year. >> donald trump had another good night, but i'll tell you why. >> a legend of british music isn't happy with the former us president. >> heaven knows they're miserable now. >> and there's the story that seems to have got everyone talking. >> the head of the british army has warned that the government may need to introduce conscription, the big conscription, but the big question is, would you fight for your country when many people

don't even feel like your country is fighting for you.7 that's country is fighting for you? that's all coming in your next hour. that's all coming in your next hour . and that's all coming in your next hour. and also later in the show, i'll bring you an interview with that man, lee anderson. he's made some very interesting comments today. a bit of a u—turn. nigel farage has said, what anderson has said, what is lee anderson playing well i'll ask him in playing at? well i'll ask him in an hour's time. >> to miss that. >> you won't want to miss that. >> you won't want to miss that. >> email me your >> but first email me your views, involved all the views, get involved all the usual way. >> curtains sunak is >> is it curtains for sunak is the thing the conservatives the last thing the conservatives need another leadership challenge to a challenge this close to a general election? or is it time to pull rip cord and try to pull the rip cord and try somebody new? let me know who you'd for. you'd vote for. >> gbviews@gbnews.com. >> gbviews@gbnews.com. >> but before all of that is your latest headlines your latest news headlines with tatiana . martin. tatiana sanchez. martin. >> thank you. your top stories from the gb newsroom, sir keir starmer accused the prime minister of being bullied by his own mps as today's prime

minister's questions were dominated by allegations of tory infighting. it's after sir simon clarke warned of a electoral massacre for the government . massacre for the government. writing in the daily telegraph the tories need a change of leader. the prime minister rebuffed the criticisms , rebuffed the criticisms, accusing labour of not understanding britain's values. but sir keir seized on the editorial, saying that tory infighting had descended into a long running soap opera . long running soap opera. >> we've seen this . story time >> we've seen this. story time and time again with this lot party first, country second safely, a second in westminster. they get down to the real business of fighting each other to death , the country forced to to death, the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film. >> you can see exactly why hizb ut—tahrir hired him in the first place, but he wants to talk about these things . even his own about these things. even his own party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country . simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr simply doesn't have a plan for this country . mr speaker, the

this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing . blowing. >> donald trump swept to victory in the new hampshire primary overnight, demonstrating his tight grip over the republican party's hard right. the former president took 55% of the vote, beating his last remaining challenger, nikki haley , while challenger, nikki haley, while president joe biden secured a comfortable win for the democrats . miss haley, who is democrats. miss haley, who is a former ambassador for the united nations, is vowing to fight on promising to stay in the race until super tuesday on the 5th of march, when 15 states and one territory hold their votes . the territory hold their votes. the government says it's committed to postal deliveries six days a week, despite a report by ofcom suggesting some days could be cut to save costs . number 10 cut to save costs. number 10 says the government will engage with the options outlined by the

regulator , but insists regulator, but insists deliveries on saturdays will remain. ofcom says it's vital the postal service is modernised to meet the evolving needs of consumers. other options include slowing down deliveries with most letters taking three or more days to arrive. but communication workers union general secretary dave ward says the changes risk destroying royal mail . royal mail. >> he's thousands and thousands ofjob >> he's thousands and thousands of job losses, of course, but more importantly, in some ways it's the end of a great british institution, a public service that's still important to the pubuc that's still important to the public and to businesses. if royal mail have got a leadership that don't want to deliver the usa , well then they're in the usa, well then they're in the wrong business. and our view is, is that we could easily find ways of growing royal mail if you let them get on with the job, they will come up with different ways . different ways. >> britain's councils are set to receive £500 million in an emergency bailout to avert a

cash crisis. it comes after mps called for a funding boost for struggling councils on the brink of bankruptcy. the money will initially be used for children's and adult social care over the next 18 months. however reports suggest many councils believe the funding will only prevent a financial crisis in the short time . a russian military time. a russian military transport plane has crashed near the border . the ukrainian border the border. the ukrainian border reports say it was carrying ukrainian prisoners of war, who were due to be exchanged in a swap, the ria news agency cited. russia's defence ministry saying there were 65 ukrainian prisoners on board, with six crew members and three others. reports say there were no survivors. there was no immediate information on the cause. immediate information on the cause . now . how a claim of cause. now. how a claim of so—called copycatting by discount supermarket aldi has been dismissed by the high court . thatcherite had accused aldi of copying its brand, citing the supermarket , its tourist cider, supermarket, its tourist cider, aldi's previously been accused

of mimicking its rivals with its cuthbert the caterpillar , cuthbert the caterpillar, reminding many of m&s more familiar. colin the caterpillar. others have pointed to similarities between its jammie wheels and the classic jammie dodgen wheels and the classic jammie dodger, which was first introduced in 1960. so some rail services have now resumed after trains were suspended last night due to storm jocelyn diesel . due to storm jocelyn diesel. live pictures coming into us from the shetland islands, where conditions are still quite blustery, the storms left thousands without power in scotland . at least one person is scotland. at least one person is missing in south wales after going into the sea in portugal last night. this is the 10th named storm of the season , named storm of the season, hitting much of britain just two days storm esha claimed days after storm esha claimed two lives. those are your top stories on gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital, on tv, in your car, on digital, radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . martin

to. martin >> watch as nimmo . >> watch as nimmo. >> watch as nimmo. >> okay, thank you tati on. let's get cracking. we've got a huge show ahead of us today and we start with the future of rishi sunak and the fallout from a senior tory mp publicly calling for the prime minister to the chop. other to get the chop. other conservative have backed conservative mps have backed sunak after former minister sir simon clarke warned the party will be massacred at the general election. that was in today's daily telegraph >> he's replaced . >> unless he's replaced. >> unless he's replaced. >> well, i'm joined now in studio by gb news political editor chris bishop and also the conservative mp for south derbyshire, heather wheeler. resplendent in a peppermint coloured jacket. welcome to you in a bit. first, chris, here we are again. yesterday the lords were revolting. today the tories are revolting and once again a leadership challenge is this seriously what the conservatives need? this close to a general election? >> it's not a challenge. it's a former minister calling for the pm to stand down as tory leader. it does feel a bit as though it's gone off half cocked. i've had a quite interesting whatsapp

exchange with a senior figure on nine 2022 committee of tory mps , nine 2022 committee of tory mps, which would be in charge of vote of no confidence. they said it seems to have out seems to have fizzled out already. people you already. most of the people you would in letter in would imagine put in letter in have supportive messages have posted supportive messages on this coup won't on whatsapps. this coup won't last more than hours. it last more than 24 hours. it feels to me it went the wrong way around . so in that letter way around. so in that letter last night from sir simon clarke and we reported on gb news he spoke about in january, spoke twice about in january, although we are still in january. it felt to me like that letter would have gone in that letter, the article sorry, attacking the pm after maybe a double by—election defeat on february the 15th. yeah. after there's this big event called there's this big event called the popular conservatives and rally, where simon clarke is due to speak at it with jacob rees—mogg , our colleague, and gb rees—mogg, our colleague, and gb news, liz truss and ranil jayawardena. he's now being kicked uh, that kicked off that, that, uh, that group of people speaking at it because he can't . and now that because he can't. and now that that event, now looks like it's a kind of an alternative tory party planning idea , and that's

party planning idea, and that's how febrile it is. i should say one thing, martin. somebody texted me a new idea being floated about amongst tory mps is that they drop in a new leader , whether it's penny leader, whether it's penny mordaunt or someone like that, who, of course, came close to beating truss then beating liz truss and then couldn't find the support to challenge rishi sunak in 2022. and she would then stand on a newt gingrich style contract with britain. that's newt gingrich, who was the republican senator in 1994 who then won the midterms two months later, in november 24, followed by a general election. that is a possible game changer. but frankly, a i'm sure heather might have something to say on this. but another tory leader, the fourth 1 in 5 years, is a stretch. i don't think it's going to happen. >> well, let's put that direct to you, heather. so the runners and the riders, the usual suspects, badenoch suspects, um, kemi badenoch favourite at 3 to 1. penny mordaunt 5 to 1. suella 11 to 2. and guess what? equal pairing . and guess what? equal pairing. um cameron, david cameron and

nigel farage at 22 wheeler. >> is she on there? >> is she on there? >> yeah. do you want to be on it a tragedy? >> no, no. fortunately i always told family i'd never be told my family i'd never be prime minister chancellor prime minister and chancellor of the because i can't the exchequer because i can't add up, so that's fine. >> off >> um, but it's kicking off again, know, we keep again, and, you know, we keep heanng again, and, you know, we keep hearing parties lose hearing divided parties lose elections. could not be more elections. you could not be more divided if you tried. um so there are people that it is there are two people that it is known have put letters in. known who have put letters in. >> is not making a >> two people is not making a divided party. >> okay. >> okay. >> um, i know everybody is having awful of fun with having an awful lot of fun with this, saw the, um, 100% this, but you saw the, um, 100% support that rishi had in the chamber today for pmqs. >> we do have a 1922 meeting at 5:00 tonight behind closed doors, which will then no doubt be leaked by the good, um, uh, political around place. >> uh, them . >> uh, to them. >> uh, to them. >> and this is a nonsense . >> and this is a nonsense. >> and this is a nonsense. >> this is an absolute nonsense . >> this is an absolute nonsense. there is no way rishi is going anywhere , and people need to anywhere, and people need to pipe anywhere, and people need to pipe down. >> who's speaking at your meeting today? >> no speaker today. >> uh, we have no speaker today. >> uh, we have no speaker today. >> is the floor. >> it is from the floor. >> it is from the floor. >> that could be >> okay. that could be interesting. of course. you ran to chairman of 22. what? so to be chairman of 22. what? so you could have been like graham

brady right now? >> well, receiving apparently two . two letters right now. >> um, so i don't bias to colleagues then. >> um, is need to waste >> um, there is no need to waste a letter headed paper on a letter. letter headed paper on this matter. >> and secondly , that we've just >> and secondly, that we've just got to sort this out . you saw got to sort this out. you saw today with starmer and you saw when says he's changed the when he says he's changed the labour party and literally four questions later , the one of the questions later, the one of the guys stands up and asks this appal ing letter about gaza , a appal ing letter about gaza, a letter you've got me guessing it now question about gaza and that is the that is the real labour party today. >> and the public will see that. so that is where our enemy lies, not within. >> well, you say that a >> well, you say that there's a poll in today's telegraph which put the true put the question to the true blues out there. if sunak was replaced conserved leader replaced by a conserved leader who believed in strong border control who in control, who believed in sticking up for britain , it sticking up for britain, it completely the potential completely changes the potential face of the electoral map at the next election, particularly in the where you won the the red wall, where you won the last time and could lose last time and you could lose this time. so there is a huge pubuc this time. so there is a huge public you might public appetite. you might say, no, going this.

no, we're not going to do this. but public to but the public seem to want something more something a bit more conservative the conservative from the conservative from the conservative says, okay. conservative from the conandative says, okay. conservative from the conandative best;, okay. conservative from the conandativebest;, okajis conservative from the conandative best;, okajis that conservative from the conandativebest;, okajis that is >> and the best news is that is exactly what they're going to get soon as we can get get. um, as soon as we can get this out the this great budget out of the way, know what's in the way, i don't know what's in the budget, but we've had this indication of indication right now because of the local government ministers and meetings with the chancellor himself. and i'm going to put those photos out there later for my good people in south derbyshire to see. but we've already 500 million already got another 500 million for for , um, for local government for, um, childcare adult care, which childcare and adult care, which are costing eye—watering amounts of money and they are in the process of practically bankrupting every council. so the government have seen that we've had private meetings about it. got that money. they it. we've got that money. they are listening to is are listening to what is actually in the actually happening in the country. and that's why country. and so that's why things are going to get more and more blue. >> okay . it's a more blue. >> okay. it's a big more blue. >> okay . it's a big week for tax >> okay. it's a big week for tax cuts. the national insurance cuts. the national insurance cuts . yep £450 for people who cuts. yep £450 for people who are on 30,000 a year. >> it's a great tax cut now because the people most people being paid on friday. >> yeah exactly. do you worry

that that tax then is that that that tax cut then is being forgotten. not being forgotten. you're not getting enough credit it. getting enough credit for it. >> keep talking >> well we will keep talking about thank very much >> well we will keep talking abcgiving thank very much >> well we will keep talking abcgiving me1ank very much >> well we will keep talking abcgiving me another very much for giving me another opportunity i do opportunity to mention it. i do find it bizarre. i mean, you know, £450 is serious money. an average salary of 30,000 a year. thatis average salary of 30,000 a year. that is practically the average salary in south derbyshire. so, i mean, i'm really shouting at this from the rooftops. it's a great start to where we want to be with tax cuts. >> we're covering us all today, which really got which is really, really got people is this people going. and that is this idea of conscription in the army and thing that's come and a huge thing that's come out of people , of this is that people, particularly conservatives, has to be said. and veterans and those who consider themselves patriots and the working classes, they don't believe anymore, as i said at the top of the show, the country anymore, as i said at the top of the shfor the country anymore, as i said at the top of the shfor their the country anymore, as i said at the top of the shfor their needs untry anymore, as i said at the top of the shfor their needs .�*|try anymore, as i said at the top of the shfor their needs . they fights for their needs. they feel that the flag has been abandoned . our culture is being abandoned. our culture is being eroded, borders can't abandoned. our culture is being erocontrolled. borders can't abandoned. our culture is being erocontrolled. b> okay. i would say we are

>> okay. so i would say we are taking back control of the borders. that is hugely important. the rwanda bill passed through the house of commons unamended. i appreciate the lords decided to play a game last night, but they are being asked very politely . you know asked very politely. you know the rules, you know the protocol is you know how this game is played . if something goes played. if something goes through the house of commons unamended that your unamended, that it is not your choice to amend it yourselves . choice to amend it yourselves. >> okay. what's your advice to your mates? lee anderson? he wants job back. wants his job back. >> um, well, i'm glad he wants his job back. >> um, well, i'm glad he wants hisjob back. i think >> um, well, i'm glad he wants his job back. i think he needs to have a very quiet, his job back. i think he needs to have a very quiet , private to have a very quiet, private sit down rishi. i heard his sit down with rishi. i heard his announcement today . sit down with rishi. i heard his announcement today. i'm absolutely delighted. i mean, you see what's really interesting, isn't it? when push comes shove, he couldn't go comes to shove, he couldn't go through the lobby and through the labour lobby and vote with labour. >> he'd laughed at. >> he'd be laughed at. >> he'd be laughed at. >> well, there was >> well, it just there was a sense of realism who really sense of realism here who really is the enemy? and that's fine. by is the enemy? and that's fine. by me. >> but we talked about this on the show before, you the show before, unlike, you know, brexit party know, when i was a brexit party mep, of the brexit party know, when i was a brexit party mep,wanted>f the brexit party

know, when i was a brexit party mep,wanted to he brexit party know, when i was a brexit party mep,wanted to vote rexit party know, when i was a brexit party mep,wanted to vote againstty know, when i was a brexit party mep,wanted to vote against the mps wanted to vote against the brexit deal because it wasn't quite what they wanted. in the end, nobody because of end, nobody did because of course always have course history will always have you column you in the same column as liberal democrats and the remains. i think that's what happened to was the happened to lee was the realisation can't forever realisation that i can't forever be same sheet as be on the same team sheet as that lot, that i always give a load of to. but back to load of aggro to. but back to where we're at. yeah. um, do you think rishi sunak is going to lead conservative party into lead the conservative party into the election? the next general election? because of the because all of the all of the weathervanes, all of the polling are saying that's case, are saying if that's the case, it's going to be bad for news the think that first of >> yeah, i think that first of all, there's going plenty >> yeah, i think that first of al|timere's going plenty >> yeah, i think that first of al|time before ng plenty >> yeah, i think that first of al|time before the plenty >> yeah, i think that first of al|time before the generalenty of time before the general election. second, get this election. second, we get this budget the way, which i'm budget out of the way, which i'm hoping great. and hoping will be great. and thirdly, think we will we thirdly, um, i think we will we will get the rwanda bill through the lords. and, mean, if we the lords. and, i mean, if we have invoke parliament have to invoke the parliament act, mean, this have to invoke the parliament ac really mean, this have to invoke the parliament ac really stuff. ean, this have to invoke the parliament ac really stuff. this this have to invoke the parliament ac really stuff. this isis is really serious stuff. this is time for real politicians to stand up and be counted. and i don't think that the lords ought to be the holding brigade. to be the holding back brigade. a would agree with that. >> and we've been saying for days it feels days and days and days it feels like good old days, the bad like the good old days, the bad old days, you look at old days, when you look at it, of all again. the

of brexit all over again. the lords are leaping in they're lords are leaping in and they're kicking matchwood. and kicking things to matchwood. and who's in control. and that's what people are asking . is it what people are asking. is it you lot? is it the lords? is it the electorate? the electorate feel abandoned? >> well, the electorate not >> well, the electorate are not stupid. see stupid. they can see specifically the types of people who trouble who are causing all this trouble in the lords. it was a labour lord who chaired the committee who's pushed it out. and you will get other wonderful labour lawyers who are in the lords . lawyers who are in the lords. and they will they will have their say, they will make hay. but at the end of the day, it will come back to three times will come back to us three times and it through. and we will push it through. >> that will how >> but that will take how long, though? he that can though? i mean, he can that can be year. be a year. >> that time. understand >> that time. i'm. i understand that protocol to allow that the protocol is to allow the lords enough time to feel that really scrutinised that they've really scrutinised it to the nth degree. well, great. but then at some point somebody's going to smack them and, you know , if i have to and, you know, if i have to wander down the red ends of , of wander down the red ends of, of the then we'll just see the house, then we'll just see what's terrifying. >> smacked helena, heather >> we smacked by helena, heather wheeler. want to upset >> they don't want to upset heather but the is

heather, but but the point is that delays raise the trauma that the delays raise the trauma of dragging it on. >> it gives the people smugglers more and more of a window to start getting those boats piling across channel we'll across the channel because we'll hit yeah. it be hit spring. yeah. and it will be the that the the ultimate proof that the lords not not stopping lords are not only not stopping the , they're allowing them the boats, they're allowing them to continue is that do to continue coming. is that do you believe an orchestrated attempt to cause political damage rishi sunak ? damage to rishi sunak? >> i think an attempt to >> i think it's an attempt to cause damage to the conservative party and conservative party and the conservative government. think it's government. i don't think it's specifically do with rishi. i specifically to do with rishi. i think will happen and you think what will happen and you will see more of this following on from the deal with albania, where 90% have gone back, where 80, 90% have gone back, the with romania , now the deal with romania, now that's done, and then the that's being done, and then the deal done with deal that's being done with germany the germany about stopping the boats actually physically coming through because they're made elsewhere and brought through germany belgium and germany and then belgium and then to france. it's those sorts of changes that make that of changes that will make that that's the german made boats . that's the german made boats. no, they come into germany for some strange reason through turkey. i possibly i turkey. is it i possibly i wouldn't like to say. yeah, but that that is something again

we've tried that. >> no no no . half £1 billion >> no no no no. half £1 billion to the, french . we seem to the, to the french. we seem to the, to the french. we seem to tried every or to have tried at every hook or crook to it. it doesn't seem crook to do it. it doesn't seem that of it is working. is that any of it is working. is rwanda going be silver rwanda going to be the silver bullet? every conservative bullet? and every conservative that put the that comes in here, we put the same chris puts same bets up as, as chris puts it, sunak a single pint of it, rishi sunak a single pint of been it, rishi sunak a single pint of beer. we ask for much. beer. we don't ask for much. a single pint of beer. will a flight leave for rwanda with illegal immigrants before the next general election ? yes or next general election? yes or no? heather wheeler yeah , mine's no? heather wheeler yeah, mine's a pint of carling and the answer is yes . there a pint of carling and the answer is yes. there we go. you're a cheap date. i mean that in a good way. i mean that in a very good way. i mean that in a very good can make it good way. well, you can make it a i was just going to a point of i was just going to leave that there and see your ipa something . magnificent. ipa or something. magnificent. heather thank you. heather wheeler, thank you. very, very forthright opinion. superb top of the and superb top of the show. and chris, always pleasure. chris, always a pleasure. thank you. i'll be you. now reminder that i'll be joining the studio at 4:00 by that lee anderson . nigel that man lee anderson. nigel farage said what's lee anderson playing ask him playing at. well we'll ask him in right here in just in person. be right here in just an time and we'll an hour's time and we'll have lots rishi sunak future lots more on rishi sunak future throughout show, of course. throughout the show, of course. and plenty coverage

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. channel >> welcome back. it's 323. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news later this hour. i'll tell you why. prince harry has put his foot in it yet again. and it's fair to say the head of the british army floating the idea of conscription being brought back hasn't gone down very well with everyone. perhaps surprisingly, with veterans . now to the with veterans. now to the killings of three people in nottingham last year, nottingham crown court has been told the osvaldo cocaine was unlawfully at large and wanted on a warrant for assault of an emergency worker when he committed those heinous crimes. our east midlands reporter, will hollis is outside nottingham crown court. welcome to the show. we will. there's been some dramatic evidence coming out of that court today. can you bring us up to speed, please ? to speed, please? >> yes. well, yesterday we heard

that the prosecution service have accepted those pleas under the grounds of diminished responsibility. osvaldo carl heneghan, who killed three people last summer, two of them students. barnaby webber, grace o'malley kumar at the university of nottingham, as well . ian of nottingham, as well. ian coutts, now at the time , osvaldo coutts, now at the time, osvaldo calican was wanted for arrest. he'd failed to appear at court relating . to a previous charge relating. to a previous charge and between that time and the summer when he committed those heinous acts, he was at large . heinous acts, he was at large. and police today have said . okay and police today have said. okay i think we've lost will hollis there to do is . there to do is. >> okay , so some dramatic >> okay, so some dramatic evidence come out of that court today. um, calican is brief, claiming he was hearing voices. he tried to surrender at m15 at the headquarters. this is peter

joyce kc, representing kalakani . joyce kc, representing kalakani. um, that's not a concoction by him . um, kalakani alleged , uh, him. um, kalakani alleged, uh, claimed, actually, that he was heanng claimed, actually, that he was hearing voices, thought he was controlled by sonar . um, hearing voices, thought he was controlled by sonar. um, and he'd been at months for nine at large for nine months. so there's big, big questions for nottinghamshire constabulary to answer. how can a man wanted for arrest for nine months have been at large at then gone on to commit crimes? um, some dramatic evidence from the families as well . victim impact statements , well. victim impact statements, very very hot moving. so tough. grace's father . it's clear to grace's father. it's clear to see you planned your attack. you've deceived the psychiatrists who have based their on partial their opinion on partial diagnoses reports . of diagnoses and reports. of course, the sentencing will be served soon. there's grace's mother and father. they're heartbreaking for them. we'll make sure we keep across this story and keep you fully up to date . now, north yorkshire date. now, north yorkshire

emergency services have teamed up with the counter—terrorism police and york minster police to respond to a series of staged terror attacks in and around york minster. it comes following the manchester arena inquiry, which set out an expectation that venues such as york minster should conduct reviews to understand the risks of terrorist attacks and take measures to mitigate against them. our yorkshire and humber reporter anna riley has the story and a warning . her report story and a warning. her report contains flashing lights and graphic images. contains flashing lights and graphic images . get out . graphic images. get out. >> this is operation opportunity, a planned exercise at york minster to prepare emergency services for a real life terror attack. police, fire and rescue, an ambulance . crews and rescue, an ambulance. crews descended upon the cathedral in response to a staged acid assault upon a vip visitor. a hostile vehicle and knife attack, and a siege , all attack, and a siege, all

involving 300 volunteers. the iconic landmark is one that needs protecting , as it's needs protecting, as it's visited by thousands each year, including royalty . including royalty. >> it's at least 12 months in in the planning , this this exercise the planning, this this exercise and comes at a really important juncture for the for york minster, for the police. we have here, it was less than 12 months ago. we had the king and the queen here for the royal maundy. so high profile, very high profile visitors do happen regularly at york minster. we need to be prepared. >> the exercise is part of a regular counter—terrorism programme , which takes place programme, which takes place across high profile venues in the uk to test the response of emergency services to a series of no notice violent attacks to stop them and save lives. >> this scenario is really important for us to practice. sadly terrorist incidents like this have happened in the past. we've had the manchester arena inquiry and the learning outcomes from that have driven all to train all blue light services to train and prepare this way, we want and prepare in this way, we want

to improve from things have to improve from things that have happened the past, this happened in the past, and this is to do that, to is the best way to do that, to train as blue light train together as blue light services our people services challenge our people as much we can. and we've done much as we can. and we've done that evening. just so that this evening. just so people can prepare the right people can prepare in the right way. happen in way. should this sadly happen in the was invaluable >> the operation was invaluable for all emergency services , for all emergency services, including fire and rescue , who including fire and rescue, who saved and treated casualties at the scene. >> it's a long time in the making. is this, you know, it's not every day you get to run around the minster like we are and putting people with legs and blood everywhere. extremely blood everywhere. it's extremely important us to one test as important for us to one test as a fire service, how we response and our procedures. to and our procedures. but two, to test multi—agency response test that multi—agency response and procedures that go with and the procedures that go with that as to prosecute those that as well, to prosecute those responsible for a terrorist attack, it's crucial for police to interview all witnesses . to interview all witnesses. >> and a command centre was set up near the minster for police to hone their skills. obviously there's a long terme investigation that would come out of something this and out of something like this and we have called the golden hour principle, which about principle, which is about capturing evidence capturing that key evidence as

early because early as possible, because obviously, as time goes on, people's fade, and so people's memories fade, and so that vital information can be lost. >> so it's really important that we get capture as much detail as possible from them at an early stage. >> emergency services here in nonh >> emergency services here in north yorkshire are now more prepared than ever for a terrorist attack. should the worst happen . anna riley, gb worst happen. anna riley, gb news york and a reminder that around 4:00 i'll bring you an an interview with lee anderson. >> he'll be in the studio with me. he's made some very interesting comments today. you won't want to miss them. he's basically that he wishes basically said that he wishes he'd have voted differently on rwanda. i should have voted for the rwanda bill. you recall he abstained and resigned as the deputy chair of the conservative party over that , and it came out party over that, and it came out in chamber with chris hope. he did that because they were laughing at him in the nay chamber . laughing at him in the nay chamber. labour laughing at him in the nay chamber . labour politicians, he chamber. labour politicians, he couldn't go through with it. now he wishes he had voted for it and saying, here he wants his

old job back as the conservative deputy chair, nigel farage was prompted by all of that to say, what's on earth is lee anderson playing at? well, we'll ask him in about half an hour's time. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00 later this houn between now and 4:00 later this hour. i'll also tell you about donald trump taking another step towards to the white towards returning to the white house. prepare for the world's biggest temper tantrum. but first, there's your latest news headunes first, there's your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> martin, thank you. it's exactly 330. these are your top stories from the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer accused the prime minister of being bullied by his own mps as today's prime minister's questions were dominated by allegations of tory infighting . it's after sir simon infighting. it's after sir simon clarke warned of an electoral massacre for the government . massacre for the government. writing in the daily telegraph that the tories need a change of leader , the prime minister leader, the prime minister rebuffed criticism , accusing rebuffed the criticism, accusing labour of not understanding

britain's values. but sir keir seized on the editorials, saying that tory infighting had descended into a long running soap opera . soap opera. >> we've seen this story time and time again with this lot party first, country second, safely ensconced in westminster, they get to down the real business of fighting each other to death. the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film. >> you can see exactly why hizb ut—tahrir hired him in the first place, but he wants to talk about these things . even his own about these things. even his own party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country . simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr simply doesn't have a plan for this country . mr speaker, the this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing . blowing. >> some rail services have now

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film premiere, which seems to go against the fact that telling us all not to fly and posing with a prime minister who wants shut of the monarchy another day , the monarchy another day, another nightmare for the sussexes . sussexes. >> yeah, this has been quite a controversial move by harry and meghan. this prime minister the jamaican prime minister andrew holness . he jamaican prime minister andrew holness. he is the guy who posed in front of cameras with prince william and princess catherine back in 2022, bearing in mind he knew cameras were there and said to them we are moving on. in other words, we want to get rid of king charles as our head of state in jamaica and has become a republic. and since then he has increasingly ramped up the rhetoric in terms of doing that. so this year, jamaica is expected to hold a referendum on whether or not it should keep the monarchy in that country. of course, barbados, another canbbean course, barbados, another caribbean nation, has already cut ties with the british monarchy. but the fact of it, as you can see on your screens here, harry and meghan have been pictured alongside andrew

holness as sparked particular controversy because although prince harry and indeed meghan is no longer a working member of the royal family, harry is still , uh, in line to the throne and the king's son. so it has been quite controversial politically as well as for the commonwealth as well as for the commonwealth as well as for the commonwealth as well . as well. >> do you think he realises what he's doing? is he just silly , or he's doing? is he just silly, or is this just absolutely idiotic ? is this just absolutely idiotic? >> i mean, i can only speculate. i suspect he perhaps didn't know who he was meeting, was going to meet when he accepted the invitation for the premiere because another . person who he because another. person who he and meghan met on the red carpet at the premiere in jamaica was the boss of paramount pictures , the boss of paramount pictures, and people have been speculating onune and people have been speculating online and journalists have been speculating whether or not there was some networking going on on the red carpet. so if you remember , harry was kind of hot remember, harry was kind of hot miked of ago miked a couple of years ago trying disney ceo trying to lobby the disney ceo to meghan some voice over to give meghan some voice over work. of course , we know that work. of course, we know that they have lost their spotify

deal prematurely. one of the executives called them grifters, so perhaps it's obviously just speculation, he going speculation, but was he going there with the intention to perhaps get another media deal with paramount pictures on this occasion? that perhaps is one of the motivations as to why harry and meghan, um, went to this particular premiere. and of course, celebrating the heritage of jamaica and bob marley, too. do you think, cameron, this kind of underlines the vacuum we have in the royal family, the working royals, of course . royals, of course. >> now princess in hospital , the >> now princess in hospital, the king with his own health issues , king with his own health issues, and there's a void of people to step it. and here we step up and do it. and here we are. um, the sussexes basically turning up to the opening of an envelope in jamaica. >> very much, >> well, it's very much, i suppose, keep calm and carrying on, isn't it, harry? meghan no longer working members of the royal they cannot be royal family they cannot be dictated to by either the royal family or british government family or the british government of they have of what they do, and they have decided go a premiere decided to go to a film premiere on the other hand, we have seen queen camilla support victims of domestic this week.

domestic violence this week. just morning, the duchess just this morning, the duchess of edinburgh was supporting or educating girls with the menstrual cycle in east london and the duke of edinburgh is out and the duke of edinburgh is out and about, uh, in south africa and about, uh, in south africa and saint helena, representing the . and of course, the country. and of course, harry have to harry and meghan have chosen to go film they have go to a film premiere. they have been jamaica before, um, and been to jamaica before, um, and obviously have ties to the caribbean. there are commonwealth youth ambassadors, and when they were working members of the royal family, but nonetheless the perhaps nonetheless the optics perhaps don't look great when they are shaking hands with the jamaican prime minister, who wants to get rid of king head of state. >> and this final point about they seem to lecture the rest of us about not taking unnecessary trips. you know, let's cut down on our carbon footprint. let's all live in caves and be colder and poorer. yeah, here they are on a on a jolly to jamaica simply to go and see a movie. it's so kicks in the craw. the double standards , wouldn't you double standards, wouldn't you say cameron. >> yeah mean we don't know how >> yeah i mean we don't know how they travelled jamaica they travelled to jamaica and we also don't they're also don't know if they're undertaking while they're there

engagements while they're there or if indeed they have literally just for the just flown there for the premiere. mean, to fair to premiere. i mean, to be fair to harry not quite harry and meghan, i'm not quite sure get sure how they would get to jamaica flying . but as jamaica without flying. but as you say, they have in the past been very heavily criticised for taking jets taking private jets unnecessarily. there's unnecessarily. where there's perfectly good commercial flights to get there. and by contrast, prince william and catherine, to catherine, when they flew to boston uh, commercially boston, uh, flew commercially and william flew to and prince william flew to singapore, singapore late last year commercially as well . year commercially as well. >> okay, cameron walker, we'll leave moley movie. leave it there. bob moley movie. no. cry. and if harry no. woman. no cry. and if harry could take that advice himself . could take that advice himself. now, the head of the army has warned britons that they could be called up to fight if a war breaks out in russia. would you sign up for fighting for your king and country? that's the big question i'll be asking less. or do you or do you think your country no longer fights for you? i'm martin on gb you? i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel .

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channel >> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> it's 343. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now at 4:00 i'll bring you a big interview with that man lee anderson. you won't want to miss that. nigel farage been asking what on earth is lee anderson playing . at? well, i'll anderson playing. at? well, i'll ask him in about a quarter of an hours ask him in about a quarter of an hour's time now. donald trump has criticised rival has criticised his rival nikki haley withdrawing from haley for not withdrawing from the race be the republicans the race to be the republicans presidential candidate, branding her imposter. beat her an imposter. trump beat haley in the new hampshire primary last night. it's his second win at his victory in the iowa caucus last week , and i'm iowa caucus last week, and i'm joined now by our reporter, ray addison rae . it seems literally addison rae. it seems literally nobody can stop the trump train . nobody can stop the trump train. >> yeah, it's fascinating, isn't it? >> i mean, she she came on stage pretty quick after those predicted results in favour of donald trump. >> renounce it by the various news networks in the states at

the time that she walked up, she was little about sort of was a little bit about sort of seven points behind donald trump that stretched to around that then stretched to around about 12 points with the final result in now. and when she was on stage, she said, uh, i'm a fighter , i'm scrappy. and she fighter, i'm scrappy. and she basically refused to quit, which was the impression that a lot of people thought that she might be about to do. however, she says that she's going to carry to on at least south carolina, which is and of is her home state, and of course, she really, really wants to to super tuesday in early to get to super tuesday in early march when we're going to see around 16 states. let's all go to the polls. and obviously there's a lot of delegates up for grabs. then an ed ray, um, trump secured 54.2% of the vote, nikki haley 43.7. >> um, the first time since 1976 that a republican has won the first two races in iowa and new hampshire. with that in mind, ray, it looks a nailed on certainty that trump is going to be the candidate . and the

be the candidate. and the polling is putting him streets ahead of biden to become the next president. there's going to be the world's biggest tantrum, right? it's interesting, right? well it's interesting, isn't it? >> because though >> because even though nikki haley conceded haley herself has not conceded yet. uh, defeat, uh , um, yet. uh, defeat, uh, um, president biden himself issued his own statement saying it looks certain now that he will be facing donald trump, uh, for the presidency in 2024. and of course, that is, um, that is something that is going to be developing very, very, uh, thoroughly throughout the, uh, the next 11 months or so up until , uh, november. donald until, uh, november. donald trump , you mentioned his polling trump, you mentioned his polling ratings there . um, the latest ratings there. um, the latest polls show that he's around 39, 40, uh, points , um, ahead of . 40, uh, points, um, ahead of. uh, of nikki haley. however those polls have been carried out by his superpac. and so we do have to take them with a pinch of salt . other polls do pinch of salt. other polls do disagree with that. and show that she would fare quite well against president biden herself .

against president biden herself. >> and as an interesting, amusing aside, ray, um, there were some english music used at a trump rally . i think it was a trump rally. i think it was actually last year . actually last year. nevertheless, they only came to light last night. can you tell us about that? very, very amusing, because heaven knows they're miserable. now. these liberals . yeah. liberals. yeah. >> so this is this is johnny marr , uh, from the smiths. marr, uh, from the smiths. >> and he tweeted to say that , >> and he tweeted to say that, uh, his song please, please, please let me get what i want had been played at the most recent trump rally. and he said, you know , i want to shut that you know, i want to shut that down right now. and of course, he's, uh, he's actually got a bit form with this because bit of form with this because previously, previously, one of his was used the his works was used by the conservatives . and he conservatives as well. and he tweeted, think to cameron at tweeted, i think to cameron at the time, saying , i tweeted, i think to cameron at the time, saying, i think this was back in 2010 saying, you know, care you if you know, i don't care if you if you like it. >> i refuse to let you like it or words to that effect . or words to that effect. >> and so, know, obviously, >> and so, you know, obviously, a politicians, you know, a lot of politicians, you know, they're using they're using music they music that they enjoy. they think supporters will think their supporters will enjoy . but it doesn't always go

enjoy. but it doesn't always go down well the down that well with the musicians down that well with the mu yeah.; down that well with the mu yeah. and well done rafa, for >> yeah. and well done rafa, for removing the expletive that johnny marr used in that tweet . johnny marr used in that tweet. and it's an interesting thing because morrissey, of course, came out as a brexiteer . that came out as a brexiteer. that went terribly with smiths went down terribly with smiths fans. and now the double whammy the trump is using their music to they must be, must be having a clutch of the vapours. >> you never know. maybe >> well, you never know. maybe when royalties when he looks at his royalties check and sees much he's check and sees how much he's getting of those getting for all of those performances , so to speak, at performances, so to speak, at the various trump rallies with huge attendance, let's say , um, huge attendance, let's say, um, maybe he'll change his mind . maybe he'll change his mind. >> superb. thank very much. >> superb. thank you very much. this ray addison . this charming man, ray addison. now, here's a question for you. would you fight for king and country? i'm asking that question after the head of the british army warned that conscription could return. chief of the general staff , general of the general staff, general sir patrick sanders , has told sir patrick sanders, has told ministers they might need to mobilise the nation in the event of a wider conflict. again against russia. well, gb news has been out and about today to

find out what the great british pubuc find out what the great british public about the idea of public think about the idea of conscription see if they'd conscription and see if they'd be to fight for king and country. >> if the country needs it. >> if the country needs it. >> and i think they kind of have to force conscription because i feel, especially nowadays, no one will really volunteer to go into war. so if the country into the war. so if the country really needs i mean, of really needs it, i mean, of course will look solution course we will look for solution first, if it's really first, but if it's really required that think it's quite required that i think it's quite justifiable. think yeah. justifiable. i think so, yeah. well doesn't well like hopefully it doesn't happen but has to then happen, but if it has to then it's what it is because some countries already have conscription for example, like singapore so i don't singapore or korea. so i don't see why it would be like a bad idea if there's no choice. >> and it's the direction i probably will. >> yeah , never had any interest >> yeah, never had any interest in joining the army or anything like that. i considered it as a career choice early on. >> um, i took a different path , >> um, i took a different path, whether it was the army or the police. i'm from france originally, one a different way. so the choice was mine then . so the choice was mine then. >> but, um, no, no, i don't really believe warfare anyway. >> so i wouldn't sign myself up for any kind of war. so what

would you do then? >> you'd. because last time in the second world war and a first world if you didn't want world war, if you didn't want to 90, world war, if you didn't want to go, prison. go, you went to prison. >> thing didn't >> well, good thing i didn't live in that time. >> but it's easy to say that, guess. >> but yeah, i think warfare itself, it's not right. you know, i think humanity itself has caused to self harm so much with what a surprise. with it. so what a surprise. >> no, not really up for it all day. well, i'm joined now by former british officer former british army officer patrick benham crosswell in the studio to discuss this. thanks for joining us in the studio. my forjoining us in the studio. my pleasure. pleasure. patrick why do you think it is that we already have an appallingly low armed forces tally ? we have the armed forces tally? we have the lowest number of people in the army since the napoleonic era, 73,000. the smallest raf since it was formed in world war one. and we have aircraft carriers idle at portsmouth because we can't get enough sailors. so without the idea of conscription already, people don't seem that enamoured with the idea of

signing up. >> um, well, i think the answer to that is straightforward money. um, since 1990, the defence budget has fallen in real terms by something like 50. um defence inflation is always horrendously high. um and therefore there's a shortfall of capability . therefore there's a shortfall of capability. um, if you add into that , um, capability. um, if you add into that, um, what is a demanding role. and for the army, they lost two wars in a row. um and a lot of bad publicity. and they're now competing for personnel in a competitive marketplace. then if you're not paying marketplace. then if you're not paying enough , people won't paying enough, people won't come. and if you haven't got a good story of what we do is worthwhile, and we're really good at what do, then people good at what we do, then people will for someone else. >> it something more >> is it something more than that? i've been that? because what i've been struck particularly struck by today, particularly from friends who from a lot of my friends who are armed forces veterans, they're saying they wouldn't armed forces veterans, they're saying fight they wouldn't armed forces veterans, they're saying fight for they wouldn't armed forces veterans, they're saying fight for thisy wouldn't armed forces veterans, they're saying fight for this country. 't want to fight for this country. now, the country that they think isn't the country of their forefathers and isn't the country that they themselves fought for, they feel that their country doesn't care about them. so why should they care about

their country ? their country? >> oh, well, i mean, that's a that's a wider political question. think i think the question. i think i think the question. i think i think the question i perhaps could answer is , uh, and my own opinion is i is, uh, and my own opinion is i would not like to fight in this army because this army a army because this army is a mess. about the same size mess. it's about the same size as we in germany in as the army we had in germany in the cold war. that army could field divisions at six field four divisions at six hours notice. this army last year admitted it can't fill one division. it's got about 10, 15% of the combat power of the old army. and it's the same kit, you know, it's challenger tanks. then it's a mildly upgraded challenger now it's just challenger tank. now it's just lost of . how you fight. lost its way of. how you fight. and what do you do? um to his credit, general saunders, when he came in, was the guy who said, you can't cyber your way across the bridge and let's get back think back to basics. and i think he upset doing upset a lot of people doing this. months to this. and he's got six months to run. this has been run. i think this has been his parting is which is parting shot, which is which is the truth that the army the brutal truth that the army is not in any way deterring military adventures by putin or anyone else for that matter . anyone else for that matter. >> do you think the british pubuc >> do you think the british public would be fit to fight? i

mean, been problem mean, there's been a problem with people passing fitness tests we saw this week. it takes 150 hours to get through the medicals . people say it's too medicals. people say it's too slow. they go and do other things. we're too fat . we're not things. we're too fat. we're not fit enough to even do it. so the idea of just mass conscription and this week news came out that the young people, generation z, are taking one day a week off through mental health issues. how on earth could those people be drafted to fight in an army? um i don't think anyone's proposing immediate mass conscription. >> i'm for sure there's always been a challenge getting people robust enough to be soldiers. i mean, a soldier is a professional athlete among other things, or whatever. and there's always been a pressure to do that , which means you always been a pressure to do that more , which means you always been a pressure to do that more and1ich means you always been a pressure to do that more and more,eans you always been a pressure to do that more and more, g0|s you always been a pressure to do that more and more, go or'ou it break more and more, go or do it longer. think the decline of longer. i think the decline of sport in schools , i think the sport in schools, i think the decline in cadet forces , the decline in cadet forces, the army cadet force, the fact that some don't allow some schools don't even allow military recruiting teams into them, all part of a them, it's all part of a picture. and if you like, i

think you know, the head of the army is saying, do you know what? the point what? we're at the point of almost to almost no return. we need to change stuff right now. >> and don't you think there's an issue well about the an issue as well about the recruitment? attitude grant recruitment? the attitude grant shapps we shapps was saying, you know, we need we need need more diversity. we need more but tommy's who more women. but it's tommy's who fought tommy's . and fought wars, not tommy's. and this, this drive for lgbtq, for die hs2 in the army. have we simply lost sight of what makes a good soldier? i think we've lost sight of how you get a soldier to join b b he male or female. >> when i taught at sandhurst, without doubt the most able cadets were the female ones. but, um , how you but, um, um, how how you get that the army in the public eye is you don't outsource your recruitment capita . i mean, recruitment to capita. i mean, soldiering , all the armed soldiering, all the armed forces. fundamentally, it's a it's a very much a people face business. i need to trust you, and you need to trust me. um, and you need to trust me. um, and commanders need to go out and commanders need to go out and make sure they do the recruiting not outsource it. recruiting and not outsource it. and they and then blame someone when they miss . miss encounter. >> um, and can i finally ask you

quickly, um, does it sadden you when you when you when you hear that the veterans themselves are losing their country? >> yes . um, i'm country? >> yes. um, i'm not least >> um, yes. um, i'm not least because i'm one of them, you know. you know, everything was hunky dory. what the hell went wrong? >> 5 have leave >> okay, we have to leave it there. you much there. thank you very much for joining patrick joining us, patrick benham croswell studio. now i'm croswell in the studio. now i'm about joined by lee about to be joined by lee anderson studio. i've anderson in the studio. i've just seen him rock up over there. said very there. he said some very interesting the interesting things about the rwanda bill and his decision to resign the resign as deputy chairman of the conservative party. in fact, nigel said , what earth nigel farage said, what on earth is player? ask is lee anderson player? i'll ask him right this. martin him right after this. i'm martin daubney . gb news a brighter daubney on. gb news a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office with me, annie shuttleworth. it will be a dry evening for many areas, but rain will arrive from the south overnight and it south and west overnight and it will be another mild night that

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gb news. >> good afternoon. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news, broadcasting live heart of live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. about to speak to this man here, lee anderson. said some very lee anderson. he said some very interesting things about his decision not to back the government on the rwanda bill decision not to back the goveapparently the rwanda bill decision not to back the goveapparently his rwanda bill decision not to back the goveapparently his decision bill decision not to back the goveapparently his decision to .l and apparently his decision to resign as deputy chairman of the conservative party. he wants his old job back. that's what the papers say. what's the truth? we'll find out in minute. we'll find out in a minute. believe not want to believe me, you will not want to miss it. he's on cracking form. i'll him all i'll also be asking him all about rishi sunak. other tories have rallied round the prime minister a former cabinet minister after a former cabinet member called for to get the member called for him to get the chop. there's more graphic chop. and there's more graphic details trial of valdo details from the trial of valdo kolokani, man who killed kolokani, the man who killed three people in nottingham last yean three people in nottingham last year, and that's the story that seems to have got everyone talking today. the head of the british army has warned that the government to introduce government may need to introduce

conscription . the big question conscription. the big question is, would you want to fight for your you feel your country, or do you feel your country, or do you feel your no longer fights your country, or do you feel y0lyou? no longer fights your country, or do you feel y0lyou? that's longer fights your country, or do you feel y0lyou? that's all1ger fights your country, or do you feel y0lyou? that's all coming|ts your country, or do you feel y0lyou? that's all coming up in for you? that's all coming up in your . so just before your next hour. so just before my big ding dong with lee anderson , i want to hear from anderson, i want to hear from you. email me your gb you. email me your views gb views com you've got views at gb news. com you've got a question for lee. now she's time but first, time to fire away. but first, here's latest news here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . martin >> thank you. good afternoon. >> thank you. good afternoon. >> well, the top story today from the gp newsroom is that sir keir starmer has accused the prime minister being bullied prime minister of being bullied by mps as today's prime by his own mps as today's prime minister's questions were dominated accusations of tory infighting. >> that's after sir simon clarke, last night warned of an electoral massacre for the tories. >> writing in the daily telegraph that the party needs a change of leader , the prime change of leader, the prime minister rebuffed the criticism , minister rebuffed the criticism, saying labour did not understand

britain's values. >> but sir keir said tory infighting had now descended into a long running soap opera . into a long running soap opera. >> we've seen this story time and time again with this lot party first, country second, safely ensconced in westminster, they get to down the real business of fighting each other to death. the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film. >> you can see exactly why hizb ut—tahrir hired him in the first place, but he wants to talk about these things . even his own about these things. even his own party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country . simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr simply doesn't have a plan for this country . mr speaker, the this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing . blowing. >> rishi sunak now the

government says it's committed to postal deliveries six days a week, despite a report by ofcom suggesting some days could be cut to save costs. number 10 says the government will engage with the options outlined by the regulator , but insists regulator, but insists deliveries on saturdays will remain off. >> com says it's vital the postal service is modernised to meet the evolving needs of consumers . other options include consumers. other options include slowing down deliveries, with most letters taking three or more days to arrive . but more days to arrive. but communication workers union general secretary david ward said the changes risk destroying royal mail . royal mail. >> it's thousands and thousands ofjobs >> it's thousands and thousands of jobs losses, of course, but more importantly, in some ways it's the end of a great british institution, a public service that's still important to the pubuc that's still important to the public and to businesses. if royal mail have got a leadership that don't want to deliver the usa , well then they're in the usa, well then they're in the wrong business. and our view is, is that we could easily find

ways of growing royal mail if you let them get on with the job, they will come up with different ways . different ways. >> now in the united states , >> now in the united states, donald trump swept to victory in the new hampshire primaries overnight , leaving the new hampshire primaries overnight, leaving his challenger, nikki haley , with challenger, nikki haley, with few paths to the white house the former president took just under 55% of the vote, while president joe biden secured a comfortable win for the democrats. but mr trump could be in for an uphill battle despite strong support among the hard right, he's still facing 91 criminal charges here in the uk, councils are set to receive £500 million in an emergency bailout out to avert a cash crisis . it comes after mps cash crisis. it comes after mps called for a funding boost for struggling councils on the brink of bankruptcy. the money will initially be used for children's and adult social care over the next 18 months. however reports suggest many councils believe the funding will only prevent a financial crisis in the short

terme . now there are reports terme. now there are reports today that a russian military transport plane has crashed near the ukrainian border. reports are saying that it was carrying ukrainian prisoners of war who'd been exchanged in a swap . the been exchanged in a swap. the ria news agency cited russia's defence ministry saying there were 65 ukrainian prisoners on board, with six crew members and three others. reports say there were no survivors. there was no immediate information on the cause of the crash . consumer cause of the crash. consumer news and a claim of so—called copycatting by discount supermarket aldi has been dismissed by the high court. thatcher's ciders had accused aldi of copying its brand, citing the supermarket's taurus cloudy cider. aldi has previously been accused of mimicking its rivals with the cuthbert the caterpillar , cuthbert the caterpillar, reminding many of m&s more familiar colin. others have pointed to similarities between its jammie wheels and the classic jammie dodger , which was

classic jammie dodger, which was first introduced in 1960. a spokesperson for aldi told gb news there's nothing cloudy about this judgement , adding about this judgement, adding that its products are exclusive to the supermarket . now some to the supermarket. now some rail services have resumed after trains were suspended last night due to all that wind. because of storm jocelyn the storm, leaving thousands of people without power in scotland . at least one power in scotland. at least one person missing in south wales after going into the sea at porthcawl last night. it's the 10th named storm of the season, hitting much of britain just two days after storm isha claimed two lives. keep an eye on the weather for you throughout the day right here on gp news across the uk on tv, in your car , on the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel. speaker. this is britain's news channel . yeah, okay. thank you paul >> now we start with our big interview with this man lee

anderson. he quit as deputy chairman of the conservative party last of over party last week. of course, over that but according that rwanda bill. but according to the daily telegraph today, he now he'd voted in favour now wishes he'd voted in favour of that bill instead of abstaining . and according to abstaining. and according to that same article , it also take that same article, it also take his old job back . if rishi sunak his old job back. if rishi sunak asked him to return. i've got listeners in the studio and i've got christopher hope. um shall we let's go straight to we start? let's go straight to you. okay. go straight to you. so, i'll read it. read it so, look, i'll read it. read it out here. lee anderson he out here. lee anderson says he should the rwanda out here. lee anderson says he shouand the rwanda out here. lee anderson says he shouand wants the rwanda out here. lee anderson says he shouand wants histhe rwanda out here. lee anderson says he shouand wants his old rwanda out here. lee anderson says he shouand wants his old job nda bill, and he wants his old job back. bill, and he wants his old job back . very portrays as back. very much portrays you as going hands and knees, going on your hands and knees, begging, prompting begging, bowl out, prompting nigel what's on nigel farage to say, what's on earth lee anderson playing at? >> well, the telegraph has certainly gone downhill since a chopper the paper. uh, chopper left the paper. uh, again, misquoted . um, unhappy again, misquoted. um, unhappy with the article . i didn't say with the article. i didn't say i wanted my own job back. martin, the question was put to me. >> if rishi came knocking on your door and asked you to come back chair, would you back as deputy chair, would you accept i yes, that's accept i said yes, that's slightly different for me. >> asking for my job back . uh, >> asking for my job back. uh, the the article , i mean,

the rest of the article, i mean, most of it was pretty accurate, but there's a few inaccuracies most of it was pretty accurate, buthere e's a few inaccuracies most of it was pretty accurate, buthere aboutaw inaccuracies most of it was pretty accurate, buthere about the naccuracies most of it was pretty accurate, buthere about the billuracies most of it was pretty accurate, buthere about the bill last es in there about the bill last week. i mean, said this a week. i mean, i've said this a few times since. since the bill. look, we voted for the amendments on bill because amendments on the bill because we the bill was we didn't think the bill was strong there we didn't think the bill was stron 60 there we didn't think the bill was stron 60 others there we didn't think the bill was stron 60 others that there we didn't think the bill was stron 60 others that votedre we didn't think the bill was stron 60 others that voted for were 60 others that voted for the amendments, think it the amendments, didn't think it was the was strong enough. on the following a choice. following day, we had a choice. we had to either for a bill we had to either vote for a bill which we thought was weak, that could actually succeed, i.e. get flights off the ground or vote for no bill. there was no other bill coming to parliament. we haven't got time in this haven't got the time in this parliament another bill parliament to draft another bill and it through the lords. and get it through the lords. so it's that might it's vote for a bill that might work or vote for nothing. so in reality, really, instead of voting with my heart, should voting with my heart, i should have my head and voting with my heart, i should have for my head and voting with my heart, i should have for a my head and voting with my heart, i should have for a bill my head and voting with my heart, i should have for a bill that head and voting with my heart, i should have for a bill that may and voting with my heart, i should have for a bill that may work voted for a bill that may work and get these illegal migrants out of the country and into rwanda. that's what i said . rwanda. that's what i said. yeah, that's that's my exact words. now, people have been having pop. having a pop. >> do. having a pop. >> m mean, >> they always do. i mean, that that with turf with that goes with the turf with you. i know you've got you. and i know you've got a thick hide, they're having thick hide, but they're having a p0p thick hide, but they're having a pop about this, this idea that the party were laughing

the labour party were laughing at you and that caused you to change your vote. so. so your old £0.30 is now old nickname, £0.30 lee is now being £0.30 flee. being called £0.30 flee. >> what he was mean , i >> well, what he was i mean, i made a deal with myself made i made a deal with myself when parliament when i first got to parliament that go through when i first got to parliament that lobby go through when i first got to parliament thatlobby the go through when i first got to parliament that lobby the labour ugh when i first got to parliament thatlobby the labour party the lobby with the labour party to against government. so to vote against government. so when i going through when i was going through the lobby, there , you when i was going through the lobby, you there , you when i was going through the lobby,you to there , you when i was going through the lobby,you to realise; , you when i was going through the lobby,you to realise it'sou know, you got to realise it's different me. that different for me. i had that relationship with the labour party there and was an party was in there and it was an abusive relationship. and when you know, people you get there, you know, people might i'm might say, i'm hotheaded, i'm impulsive, i'm whatever. i'm probably all those things. but, you know, at the end of the day, i'm human being. it was i'm a human being. and it was difficult side with with that difficult to side with with that lot , um, difficult to side with with that lot, um, against my mates who were going through the, the eye lobby, which in hindsight, if it had been my like i've had been using my head like i've just said previously, we need to get bill to and get this bill to work and defeating killing bill defeating or killing the bill means go off at all. >> so before chris, i know you're begging to ask question, have lesson about politics? >> do think politics? » no >> do you think because were you a of going into the a bit naive of going into the lobby and you couldn't face it, he came out you. so i think when we interviewed you for gb news

last wednesday, you were a bit you i was upset, last wednesday, you were a bit ywas i was upset, last wednesday, you were a bit ywas upset, i was upset, last wednesday, you were a bit ywas upset, um, i was upset, last wednesday, you were a bit ywas upset, um, it's i was upset, last wednesday, you were a bit ywas upset, um, it's there'spset, last wednesday, you were a bit ywas upset, um, it's there's not, i was upset, um, it's there's no training for this job. >> you vote >> chopper. you go and you vote with you vote with your heart. you vote with your and to your head, and you have to realise that the. know, realise that the. you know, i mean, the mob may never realise that the. you know, i me up. the mob may never realise that the. you know, i meup. timean, mob may never realise that the. you know, i meup. timean, that'sb may never realise that the. you know, i me up. timean, that's fine.y never realise that the. you know, i meup. timean, that's fine. i'vever go up. i mean, that's fine. i've got skin. i can trend all got thick skin. i can trend all day long. don't really bother day long. it don't really bother me. i was politically me. but when i was politically homeless, party homeless, when the labour party didn't treat didn't want me and treat me awfully, the conservative awfully, it was the conservative party me , wrapped party who approached me, wrapped their arms around me, me their arms around me, gave me a political home, allowed me to become a conservative councillor, gave me a job, gave me the opportunity to represent my hometown in ashfield. so my loyalty really lies with with the conservative party um, and any beef i've got with, with the opposition or whatever, really, it should always come back to me putting my faith in the conservative party, saying thank you that home when you for giving me that home when i homeless. you for giving me that home when i ho todays. put your >> now today you've put your faith rishi sunak. you're faith in rishi sunak. you're trying to sweep away this, this, this, this mini revolt, as is it a one man mini revolt. >> it's a one man revolt, isn't it? >> a one man band is banging a

drum. um, you're saying let's unite, right? um. however, there was a poll in the same paper today. the telegraph, showing that if rishi was replaced by a true blue conservative who protected borders and all the values that i know resonate very well in ashfield, then seats like ashfield would have a much higher chance of being a conservative return. so you're sticking with your man through loyalty. but would the would the better move for the country for and the red wall be to switch leaders ? leaders? >> i don't agree with that. that mean four different prime ministers in years. it's ministers in five years. it's that's absolute madness. no, there will be no trust in our party we were to party whatsoever. if we were to swap again, is what party whatsoever. if we were to svis) again, is what party whatsoever. if we were to svis we've again, is what party whatsoever. if we were to svis we've got. jain, is what party whatsoever. if we were to svis we've got. he's is what party whatsoever. if we were to svis we've got. he's got what it is we've got. he's got a plan. you know, whether you like rishi is rishi or not, the plan is working. crossings are down. working. the crossings are down. uh, know, we sorted out uh, we, you know, we sorted out the debts. you know, inflation is half. it's like i is down by half. it's like i say, not the man. say, you might not like the man. uh, the plan is working. so uh, but the plan is working. so as a party, the common enemy here at martin for me is the labour party. if they get into power this country, i, i fear power in this country, i, i fear for the future this country. for the future of this country.

so to pull together, get so we need to pull together, get behind rishi, get behind the pm and that we win the and make sure that we win the election. i think can election. i still think we can win it. i really do. >> um, just clarify, if you >> um, just to clarify, if you were wheeler the were heather wheeler or the former the in your former whip on the sit in your seat an ago, she was saying seat an hour ago, she was saying you should have a you should you should have a meeting sunak lay meeting with rishi sunak and lay it then and then it all out and then and then almost make up almost make, make, make it up there. offered your there. if you were offered your job you take of job back, would you take it? of course i would. >> i i've been honest. >> i mean, i've been honest. i mean, wouldn't to be mean, why wouldn't i want to be deputy the oldest deputy chairman of the oldest political party the political party in the world, a great party, um , you know, great party, um, you know, people calling me coward people start calling me a coward . week, . and all this last week, i actually voted against government. it four government. i think it was four times resigned my times last week and resigned my job. not the actions of job. that's not the actions of a coward. that on a point coward. i did that on a point of principle. know, principle. but, you know, sometimes, when the sometimes, you know, when the dust when the dust clears, sorry, when the dust clears, sorry, when the dust settles and, you know, we can our around can wrap our arms around each other and come other once again and say, come on, know, done this. on, you know, we've done this. you've had little spat, and you've had your little spat, and let's with the job. let's get on with the job. >> you're out there the >> but you're out there as the person to take the person who's going to take the fight you know, fight to the red wall. you know, work red wall work with rishi in the red wall and doing, you're and you're still doing, you're still around still doing, aren't you? around the night the country, you friday night dinners parties. i

dinners with the parties. i mean, will you be deployed by the no longer the party? i've no longer got the, title deputy the, the title of deputy chairman has made chairman of the party has made no to my bookings for no difference to my bookings for the rest of the year . the rest of the year. >> in fact, my bookings have gone uh, become more gone up. uh, i've become more popular a sudden, and popular all of a sudden, and more to me and more people want to see me and hear what i've got to say. >> the wrong reason, though, >> for the wrong reason, though, lee, they see, as a critic of the well, well, be, but >> well, well, that may be, but you think most people you know, i think most people find got to say find what i've got to say interesting. i've got a great red wall story i was red wall story about why i was a former coal former labour supporting coal miner . now former labour supporting coal miner. now i'm was the deputy miner. now i'm a was the deputy chairman of the conservative party still proud to be the mp for i sure people want to hear that story. yeah >> what's interesting we've >> and what's interesting we've talked about couple times talked about a couple of times is people don't understand what it's vote against, like it's like to vote against, like what it's like to vote against your party. say that your own party. and i say that as brexit party meps. as one of the brexit party meps. and to you before, chris, and i said to you before, chris, there in that party there were people in that party that wanted to vote against the brexit deal they felt it brexit deal because they felt it wasn't strong enough and they had a point. and we said that at the time. but if you vote against it's there against your party, it's there forever in history. you'd be in the column as the labour

the same column as the labour party same column the party or the same column as the liberal it liberal democrat. so when it comes it, it's a lot comes down to it, it's a lot harder than people think it is. >> you make a good >> martin, you make a good point. a good point. actually, it's a good comparison point. actually, it's a good compeyoun in a hundred party. you know, in a hundred years time, uh, my great, great grandkids at my grandkids will be looking at my voting record and say, my great granddad, they the granddad, they voted with the lib lot to lib dems and the labour lot to not go for the rwanda bill. that's it is. basically, that's what it is. basically, it is that debt of history. >> it's that debt of history. and how hard it is to and i know how hard it is to walk in there and it's scary . walk in there and it's scary. it's just scary. >> but it won't work, will it. that's problem you've got you that's a problem you've got you voted against, you voted against. it against. you couldn't support it because it won't work. against. you couldn't support it be> moment we keep saying >> at the moment we keep saying this like brexit all this again, it's like brexit all over good old days. this again, it's like brexit all overmight good old days. this again, it's like brexit all overmight say, good old days. this again, it's like brexit all overmight say, or)od old days. this again, it's like brexit all overmight say, or the old days. this again, it's like brexit all overmight say, or the badiays. this again, it's like brexit all overmight say, or the bad old. you might say, or the bad old days. asleep in days. the lords are asleep in there and they're trying their best the waters, to best to muddy the waters, to delay it's

delay it, to make sure that it's just delayed . it might go to the just delayed. it might go to the courts what's your take on courts next. what's your take on how laws, the are how the laws, how the laws are behaving rwanda? how the laws, how the laws are beilving rwanda? how the laws, how the laws are beil think rwanda? how the laws, how the laws are beil think said rwanda? how the laws, how the laws are beil think said thisnda? how the laws, how the laws are beil think said this toa? how the laws, how the laws are beil think said this to you >> i think i said this to you earlier martin, the earlier this week, martin, the lords, the unelected lords, i think would have a think they would have a completely attitude . completely different attitude. some of would, if they were some of them would, if they were elected, jobs , elected, if their actual jobs, um, depended on making the right decision. it's all right for them. the clergy and the church and pontificating and and their pontificating and thinking they're doing the moral high i said monday, high ground. like i said monday, archbishop canterbury, he's archbishop of canterbury, he's got part over there. got a big, big part over there. it's um, what's it called? lambeth palace. lambeth lambeth palace. yeah. lambeth palace. past that most palace. i walk past that most days. them there. days. get them in there. these illegal straight illegal migrants straight on the bus, palace. bus, put them in lambeth palace. he'd a different tune he'd be singing a different tune then. >> one idea. mean, i think he >> one idea. i mean, i think he has taken some ukrainian has taken in some ukrainian really, really refugees. >> i think it's a very big i meant it. >> yeah, yeah, well, bear in mind, completely mind, they're a completely different refugee, different type of refugee, though. and though. it's like women and children fleeing, fleeing ukraine. man, of ukraine. because the man, of course, as we talk about today, being not being conscripted, they're not allowed country. allowed to leave the country. they have fight . so, so in they have to fight. so, so in terms this , this leadership terms of this, this leadership battle, going to is it

battle, it's going to is it going to fizzle out? are you going to fizzle out? are you going to fizzle out? are you going to get back with rishi makeup going to get makeup and are you going to get back party deputy back as the party deputy chairman? because people i think want don't know the >> well, i don't know about the deputy i've deputy chairman. i mean i've been bad aren't he? over been a bad boy. aren't he? over the past week i've voted against government, up against government, spoken up against the bill. so look, i'm here to make our party wins the make sure our party wins the next general whether next general election, whether that's a job title. next general election, whether th doesn't a job title. next general election, whether th doesn't really a job title. next general election, whether th doesn't really matter title. next general election, whether th doesn't really matter to le. next general election, whether thdoesn't really matter to me. it doesn't really matter to me. it doesn't really matter to me. i didn't get for role. i didn't get paid for the role. it voluntary role. was it was a voluntary role. it was at my own expense, up at my own expense, travelling up and i and down the country. so, i mean, want see a better mean, i want to see a better country my children and country for my children and hopefully day get hopefully one day get grandchildren. um, don't grandchildren. um, i don't see that labour government . that under a labour government. the do it is for me. the best way to do it is for me. he conservative government. he is a conservative government. we're perfect at. we've got we're not perfect at. we've got to things right. up to get things right. but it's up to get things right. but it's up to like to try and to people like me to try and shape happens the future. >> chris and clarify, yes or >> chris and to clarify, yes or no, you're not going to join the reform between and reform party between now and the election? reform party between now and the eleylson? reform party between now and the ele is that reform party between now and the eleyis that straight enough answer. >> well, you're asked that >> well, you're asked about that in telegraph in the in this telegraph article. then article. you said no. then i know no repeated know you said no repeated in the past. the kind of. past. it won't stop the kind of. >> i'll ask you >> well, i'll ask you a question, chopper. what's the reform done reform party ever done for ashfield? >> much. didn't exist,

>> well, not much. didn't exist, did it? >> at the election, put me did it? >> as the election, put me did it? >> as ticandidate. tion, put me up as a candidate. >> yeah, what's the brexit >> yeah, but what's the brexit party or ukip or reform ever done party or ukip or reform ever dorit's it's pressure group >> it's a it's a pressure group on tory party. on the tory party. >> a pressure group. it's a >> it's a pressure group. it's a pressure group. >> why feel you >> and that's why you feel you can't though can't join it. even though it's a group. can't join it. even though it's a they'regroup. going to win a >> they're never going to win a seat. that our electoral seat. we know that our electoral system doesn't them win seat. we know that our electoral s) seat. doesn't them win seat. we know that our electoral s) seat. doe got them win seat. we know that our electoral s) seat. doe got to them win seat. we know that our electoral syseat. doegot to be them win seat. we know that our electoral syseat. doegot to be przm win seat. we know that our electoral syseat. doegot to be pr and win a seat. it's got to be pr and look what you get. if you get pr, you imagine, imagine chopper, if we got proportional representation and you've got some like some of the old lunatics like corbyn and he gets in corbyn step up and he gets in with and mick lynch. with corn and mick lynch. they form political party with corn and mick lynch. they form 40 political party with corn and mick lynch. they form 40 overical party with corn and mick lynch. they form 40 over inl party with corn and mick lynch. they form 40 over in that ty that's 40 seats over in that place. the lib and the place. then the lib dems and the greens. totally greens. it would totally annihilate democracy in this country . country. >> nigel might get 50 or >> nigel farage might get 50 or 60 though. yeah, 60 seats as well though. yeah, but you've but what good is that if you've got corbyn with 50 seats and you've got the greens with 50 seats lib with 50 seats and the lib dems with 50 seats, you turn out to be a democracy italy, where you democracy like italy, where you can't anything and can't get anything done and the smallest the balance can't get anything done and the sn power. the balance of power. >> fallout been since >> what's the fallout been since last wednesday? have you have rishi sunak not return your phone calls? have you been have you aired to, to use the you been aired to, to use the vernacular of the of my vernacular of the of the my colleagues, the one when was

colleagues, the one when i was in labour party chopper. in the labour party chopper. >> disagreed with your >> if you disagreed with your colleagues, hated and colleagues, they hated you and never spoke you again. in the never spoke to you again. in the conservative party, it's completely different. you disagree. you fall out the disagree. you fall out at the end you out for end of the night, you go out for a pint and it's forgot about. and how should and that's how it should be. that's like when that's for me. it's like when i work pit, you could work down the pit, you could argue black blue argue with people black and blue in at in the daytime, but at night time hand and go time you shake their hand and go for a drink and that's for in for a drink and that's for me in the conservative that's the conservative party. that's what is just that. >> e- e— e we'll leave it there. that. >> andersons leave it there. that. >> andersons superb. there. that. >> andersons superb. thanks for the andersons superb. thanks for coming feisty words coming in. well, feisty words there. message for there. you've got a message for nigel farage, actually, because there. you've got a message for nigsaidarage, actually, because there. you've got a message for nigsaidarage, awhaty, because there. you've got a message for nigsaidarage, awhaty, byyou se he said to you, what are you playing want to playing at? what do you want to say to him? what are you playing at? nigel at? well i think nigel should spend america, um, spend less time in america, um, in the of and get in the shadow of trump and get back here and campaign back over here and campaign for what you go. there you go, nigel. >> here first. okay. thank you very anderson. now, very much, lee anderson. now, i'll have lots more on that very much, lee anderson. now, i'll hiat�* lots more on that very much, lee anderson. now, i'll h'at 5:00.�*nore on that very much, lee anderson. now, i'll h'at 5:00. when n that very much, lee anderson. now, i'll h'at 5:00. when i'll1at story at 5:00. when i'll be joined shadow cabinet joined by a shadow cabinet member labour's on member to get labour's take on the minister there's the prime minister and there's plenty of coverage on our website , gbnews.com. you've plenty of coverage on our website makeiews.com. you've plenty of coverage on our websitemake ith.com. you've plenty of coverage on our website make it the 3m. you've plenty of coverage on our website make it the fastest you've helped make it the fastest growing national news website in the country . now, the man who the country. now, the man who killed three people in

nottingham last year on a stabbing rampage was unlawfully at large and wanted on a warrant for assault of an emergency worker when he committed those heinous crimes. we'll have more on that . i'm martin daubney on on that. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

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culture secretary. >> i don't think he's a politician. i don't think he gets it. i don't think he understands what motivates people and i don't think he understands the basic principles of is that makes people of what it is that makes people go and vote a particular party. >> who cares? quite honestly, we've just got another day of the sort of westminster soap opera. >> it's brilliant. we need to get gerard butler on. >> gerard butler kills them all. the old dead at the at the end of it very very good. every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join . us a.m. hope you can join. us >> welcome back. it's 423. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. later this hour i'll ask why on earth supposing neutral civil service bosses have said a change of government is one of their top wishes for the new year, it's fair to say that the head of the british army, floating the idea of conscription being brought back, down at all. back, hasn't gone down at all. well, with everyone now to the killings of three people in

nottingham last year. nottingham crown court has been told that okulicki was unlawfully at large and wanted on a warrant for an assault of an emergency worker when he committed those heinous crimes. our east midlands reporter will hollis, is outside nottingham crown court. welcome to the show. will a dramatic day of evidence what's the latest ? of evidence what's the latest? >> yes, well, waldo caloocan was expected at court in september 2022. that's relating to an assault on an emergency worker. a police officer. and when he didn't appear to that court date, police put out a warrant for his arrest. but that warrant was not pursued . and in fact, up was not pursued. and in fact, up until the point when he killed barnaby webber, grace o'malley kumar and ian coates back last june, he was still wanted for that arrest. now nottinghamshire police have said that they should have pursued that arrest now, today they, as part of this

sentencing hearing, we've been heanng sentencing hearing, we've been hearing from psychiatrists who have been detailing . a little have been detailing. a little bit more about the background and current mental state of osvaldo calican, who also goes by the name adam mendez. it's important to remind you that pleas have been accepted for manslaughter under the grounds of diminished responsibility. that's because osvaldo calican has been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia . he'd been schizophrenia. he'd been experiencing psychotic symptoms from as early . as 2019. and what from as early. as 2019. and what this part of the hearing is aboutis this part of the hearing is about is lawyers offering submissions for what should happen next to osvaldo calican. the two options that are available are a hospital order, in which osvaldo calican will spend most of the rest of his life , at least in a secure life, at least in a secure hospital , or life, at least in a secure hospital, or secondly, what is called a hybrid order part of that spent inside of a hospital . that spent inside of a hospital. and then, depending on his treatment , however, he may treatment, however, he may improve over the years. a prison sentence for the remainder of

his time . um, now, those are the his time. um, now, those are the two things that are on options. doctor blackwood, one of the psychiatrists speaking today, said kalakani still does said that kalakani still does not accept that he has the condition schizophrenia and condition of schizophrenia and despite psychosis, he would have known what he was doing was morally and legally wrong . now, morally and legally wrong. now, the defence noted that calican is still hearing voices in his head and that same defence lawyer, the man defending osvaldo calican, mr joyce kc , osvaldo calican, mr joyce kc, said today in closing the sentencing hearing that the most satisfactory conclusion here for everyone is the imposition of a hospital order where this man will be properly monitored for a long time , if not the rest of long time, if not the rest of his life. the hearing has ended for today . everybody has left for today. everybody has left a short moment ago, including the family's victims as well as the lawyers. but tomorrow at 11:00 we will hear that sentencing

from the judge here at nottingham crown court and find out what kind of a future osvaldo calican will have when he is taken away. a future from his victims here in nottingham. >> thank you. will hollis from nottingham crown court. i just want to read out a couple of comments families, victims . comments from families, victims. the son of murdered ian coates yesterday told the knifeman you claimed the voices told you to kill these innocent people. but listen to me. kill yourself, he said in the courtroom at that point, applauded grace's father, grace o'malley. kumar, who was who was killed . it is clear to who was killed. it is clear to see that you planned your attack. you have deceived psychiatrist s who have based their partial their opinion on partial diagnosis and report. emma webber, barnaby's mother. do not fear for a single moment that i have anything but utter rage and pure hatred in my heart for you, the murderer who sits before me and david webber , barnaby's and david webber, barnaby's father, said this. my final comment to you is i believe in karma and what goes around comes around. i hope you get all you

deserve for the rest of your life . now a parole hearing for life. now a parole hearing for the disgraced former singer gary glitter is being held at the jail where he's serving a 16 year sentence for sexually abusing three children. let's speak now to . gb news, speak now to. gb news, south—west of england reporter jeff moody, who's outside hmp the verne in portland. geoff, welcome show. what's welcome to the show. what's the late ? geoff's not there. okay, late? geoff's not there. okay, let's just go back if we can, to some of these comments yesterday because they were astonishingly moving okolicany case moving from the okolicany case in nottingham. the victims, the family, were to speak family, were allowed to speak their minds to colloquy to give them some sort of comfort. some of the comments are simply astonishing, and it flies in the face of what we're being told in the court. james kumar i find this so hard to talk , so hard to this so hard to talk, so hard to say this. it's so moving . 17 say this. it's so moving. 17 this this kid. um grace was his older sister . she was 19 when older sister. she was 19 when she was taken away there. she is on the left of your picture

there. trained to be a nurse. all i can do to be close to her is to go to sleep with her. university of nottingham t—shirt is to go to sleep with her. un mysity of nottingham t—shirt is to go to sleep with her. un my pillownottingham t—shirt is to go to sleep with her. un my pillow and ngham t—shirt is to go to sleep with her. un my pillow and thatim t—shirt is to go to sleep with her. un my pillow and that is t—shirt is to go to sleep with her. un my pillow and that is the ;hirt on my pillow and that is the closest i will to be her. i just find that that just chokes me up. here's young lad he's up. here's a young lad he's going miss his sister for the going to miss his sister for the rest of his life . um. grace's rest of his life. um. grace's dad as a repeated. there it is clear to see you planned your attack . you've deceived attack. you've deceived psychiatrists who have based their opinion on partial diagnosis and reports , and you diagnosis and reports, and you can see that is grace's mother and father at court earlier in nottingham , trying to come to nottingham, trying to come to terms with what's happened to them. grace's mother , um, said them. grace's mother, um, said this. you have violence in your soul and the fact you have no convictions is irrelevant as you killed my daughter while on warrant for violent offences . warrant for violent offences. and that is a huge question . now and that is a huge question. now that nottinghamshire constabulary will have to answer this man was at large. he was at large for nine months, wanted

for assaulting an emergency worker. and yet for some reason he evaded arrest . he evaded he evaded arrest. he evaded capture and remember , capture and remember, manslaughter plea has been accepted . despite the fact he accepted. despite the fact he clearly left home with multiple weapons, killed three people at different locations, took a van which he used as a vehicle , and which he used as a vehicle, and was arrested in the streets of nottingham and indeed, we got a gb news exclusive of that arrest at the time from a friend of mine, cain brady, a student in the city still very, very coming to terms with what's happened to them. and a lot of people feeling is justice actually being served in this case. we will await that to be served 11:00 tomorrow. and of course we will bring you that in full with full analysis. we're also looking at this case later on in the 5:00 hour on gb news. now, there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00. in a few minutes i'll bring you angry , minutes i'll bring you angry, angry reaction to the claim from the head of british army

the head of the british army that could to bring back that we could need to bring back conscription . but first, your conscription. but first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> the headlines this hour. sir keir starmer has accused the prime minister of being bullied by his own mps after today's pmqs were dominated by accusations of tory infighting. it's after sir simon clarke last night warned of an electoral massacre for the tories . writing massacre for the tories. writing in the daily telegraph the party needs a change of leader. the prime minister rebuffed the criticism, saying labour didn't understand britain's values. but sir keir said tory infighting had descended into a soap had now descended into a soap opera . opera. >> we've seen this story time and time again with this lot party first, country second, safely ensconced in westminster, they get down to the real business of fighting each other to death. the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of

eastenders ever put to film. >> you can see exactly why hizb ut—tahrir hired him in the first place, but he wants to talk about these things. even his own party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country . simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr simply doesn't have a plan for this country . mr speaker, the this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing . blowing. >> the government says it's committed to postal deliveries six days a week, despite a report by ofcom suggesting some days could be cut to save costs . days could be cut to save costs. number 10 says the government will engage with the options outlined by the regulator, but insists deliveries on saturdays will stay off. rt.com says it's vital the postal service is modernised to meet the evolving needs of consumers. other opfions needs of consumers. other options include slowing down deliveries , with most letters deliveries, with most letters taking three or more days to arrive and some from scottish

rail services have now resumed after trains were suspended last night due to storm josslyn. the storm left thousands without power in scotland and at least one person still missing in south wales after going into the sea at porthcawl. it's the 10th named storm of the season , named storm of the season, hitting much of britain just two days after storm isha claimed two lives. more on all those stories by heading to our website gb news. com . website gb news. com. >> now north yorkshire emergency services have teamed up with counter—terrorist police and york minster police to respond to a series of staged terror attacks in and around york minster. it comes following the manchester arena inquiry, which set out an expectation that venues such as york minster should conduct reviews to understand the risks of terrorist attacks and take measures to mitigate against them. our yorkshire and humber

reporter anna riley has this story, and a warning . her report story, and a warning. her report contains flashing lights and some graphic images. it out this is operation obtunded , a planned is operation obtunded, a planned exercise at york minster to prepare emergency services for a real life terror attack . real life terror attack. >> police, fire and rescue and ambulance crews descended upon the cathedral in response to a staged acid assault upon a vip visitor. a hostile vehicle, a knife attack and a siege, all involving 300 volunteers. the iconic landmark is one that needs protecting as it's visited by thousands each year, including royalty dodi. >> it's at least 12 months in in the planning , this this exercise the planning, this this exercise and comes at a really important juncture for the for york minster, for the police we have here. it was less than 12 months ago. we had the king and the

queen here for the royal maundy. so high profile, very high profile visitors do happen regularly at york minster. we need to be prepared and the exercise is part of a regular counter—terrorism programme, which takes place across high profile venues in the uk. >> to test the response of emergency services to a series of no notice violent attacks to stop them and save lives. >> this scenario is really important for us to practice. >> sadly , terrorist incidents >> sadly, terrorist incidents like this have happened in the past . we've had the manchester past. we've had the manchester arena inquiry and the learning outcomes from that have driven arena inquiry and the learning outblue s from that have driven arena inquiry and the learning outblue lightn that have driven arena inquiry and the learning outblue light servicesive driven arena inquiry and the learning outblue light services to driven arena inquiry and the learning outblue light services to trainen all blue light services to train and in way. we want and prepare in this way. we want to improve things that have to improve from things that have happened past, and this happened in the past, and this is best that, to is the best way to do that, to train together blue light train together as blue light services and challenge our people we can. and people as much as we can. and we've done that this evening just so people can prepare in the should this sadly the right way. should this sadly happen the future, the happen in the future, the operation invaluable for all operation was invaluable for all emergency services, including fire and rescue, who saved and treated casualties at the scene . treated casualties at the scene. >> it's a long time in the

making. is this you know, it's not every day you get to run around like we are around the minster like we are and people with legs and and putting people with legs and blood everywhere. extremely blood everywhere. it's extremely important for us to one test as a fire service. our response and our two, to test our procedures, but two, to test that multi—agency response and the procedures that go with that as well, to prosecute those responsible for a terrorist attack, it's crucial for police to interview all witnesses . to interview all witnesses. >> and a command centre was set up near the minster for police to hone their skills. >> obviously, there's a long terme investigation that would come out of something like this terme investigation that would comwe ut of something like this terme investigation that would comwe have something like this terme investigation that would comwe have callediing like this terme investigation that would com we have called the like this terme investigation that would comwe have called the golden; and we have called the golden hour principle, which about hour principle, which is about capturing that evidence as capturing that key evidence as early , because early as possible, because obviously, as time goes on, people's and so people's memories fade and so that vital information can be lost . so it's really important lost. so it's really important that capture as much that we get capture as much detail as possible from them at an early stage, emerging kc services here in north yorkshire are now more prepared than ever for a terrorist attack. >> should the worst happen. anna riley, gb news york .

riley, gb news york. >> now here's a big question for you. would you fight for king and country ? i'm asking the and country? i'm asking the head. i'm asking this question after the head of the british army today warned that conscription could return, chief of the general staff, general sir patrick sanders , has told sir patrick sanders, has told ministers they might need to mobilise the nation in the event of a wider conflict against russia or gb news has been out and about today to find out what the great british public think about that idea of conscription , about that idea of conscription, and to see if they'd be ready to take up arms and fight, i would think they'd be very reluctant at because they would see it as a, you know , it's, uh, it's the a, you know, it's, uh, it's the government might be sending you somewhere where with a disability . disability. >> paul coyte the war in israel is a good example where they would disagree with that. so consequently , why would they consequently, why would they want to join the army, navy or whatever to fight a conflict which they totally disagree

with? >> when i was young, which was moeen ali ages ago , yes, it was moeen ali ages ago, yes, it was seen more of a duty, more to i would do it because i think that, you know, well, other countries have armies, don't they? >> if we didn't have anybody to fight, then what would that be? it wouldn't it? but i think it would give a lot of people who may not lot of confidence may not have a lot of confidence and, you know, not have had the best past or whatever , you know, best past or whatever, you know, it would give them a purpose as well. and but it also depends on what they're fighting for. very much. >> i would like to join the army. i've tried joining before , army. i've tried joining before, but the why i couldn't , but the reasons why i couldn't, they said, because they was quite strict on like criminal record. i'd done things record. i'd done a few things when i was younger and i regret it but um, hopefully they it now, but um, hopefully they could change the legacy and, um, make, make people be able to join without, um , uh, the join without, um, uh, the criminal, uh, criminal record affecting it . affecting it. >> so there we go. there don't seem too enamoured with the idea. who blame them? idea. and who could blame them? well, is peter well, join me now. is peter gurney who's professor gurney, who's a professor of british social history. thanks

for joining on show. for joining us on the show. professor gurney . the big professor gurney. the big question is this . a lot of question is this. a lot of people that i've been speaking to today, including, i to to today, including, i have to say, on on veterans, on forces veterans are saying they wouldn't to fight for their wouldn't want to fight for their country because they no longer believe that their country fights they think fights for them. they think britain has changed beyond recognition, and we no longer stand united as nation. so why stand united as a nation. so why would take for a would they take up arms for a country feel doesn't country they feel doesn't represent them anymore ? represent them anymore? >> um, well, i dare say they do feel like that, if that's what they've said. >> i don't know what i can say about that. you know? i mean, the country has obviously changed amount uh, changed a huge amount, uh, you know, were were know, since they were they were young hard for young. i mean, i it's hard for me to comment on that really. i mean, the guy in your, um , your mean, the guy in your, um, your clips the first guy who clips are the first guy who talked it, um, duty, talked about it, um, duty, didn't he ? and i thought he made didn't he? and i thought he made some very, very points didn't he? and i thought he made some aboutvery points didn't he? and i thought he made some about how points didn't he? and i thought he made some about how it's points didn't he? and i thought he made some about how it's just nts there about how it's just impractical. is while it's kind of morally and politically indefensible , um, bringing back

indefensible, um, bringing back conscription , it's just an conscription, it's just an impractical kind of, uh, demand , really. >> um, people wouldn't do it. >> um, people wouldn't do it. >> you know, things have changed so much since the 1950s. um, the sense of duty, the sense of kind of national coherence, etc. so i guess that's what you're alluding to there. >> but yeah, it's, um , it's, uh, >> but yeah, it's, um, it's, uh, it's not going to run, i'm afraid. >> yeah. and isn't the issue, um , professor gurney, is it at present , we can't recruit enough present, we can't recruit enough people to our armed forces. the army is at its smallest since the napoleonic era. only 73,000 ready to fight the raf is at the weakest it's ever been since it was formed after the first world war. and the navy, um, has so few sailors. they're scrapping ships . the appetite to fight for ships. the appetite to fight for king and country just seems to be withering away. why do you think that is ? think that is? >> um. well, i think people have got more, uh, sense to be, to be frank. you know, they they they

the 20th century, britain lost , the 20th century, britain lost, um, you know, millions of people , you know, the trauma of war, two, um, major wars , um, and two, um, major wars, um, and the, you know, and i was brought up, i'm sure you you've got the legacy of the second world war. >> some of that. you know, we're brought the shadow of the brought up in the shadow of the second trauma. you second war and the trauma. you know, in the family . and, know, it's in the family. and, uh, , you know, quite a uh, i'm sure, you know, quite a lot of people have , um, you lot of people have, um, you know, the majority of the population have got, uh, population perhaps have got, uh, have more sense and national have got more sense and national servicemen interviewed servicemen that we interviewed not long know , you'd not long ago, you know, you'd expect those those kinds of people to, um, to , to wave the people to, um, to, to wave the flag for this more than any group, i guess. but the vast majority, um, uh, didn't think it was . it was feasible. and it was. it was feasible. and national service and the experience of conscript men had actually put them off, uh, um, warfare and had put them off the military in and, uh, they, they, they wouldn't want it, uh, brought back in a kind of militarised form social work,

you know, or voluntary work for young people. that's a different kind of kettle of fish altogether, isn't it? but, um, society isn't as as militarised , society isn't as as militarised, uh, in many ways. >> um, and maybe that's not necessarily a good thing. peter gurney , professor of british gurney, professor of british social history. thanks for joining us on the show thing . joining us on the show thing. well, i well, people will disagree if we can't get enough people to fight a war, what would happen if we actually went to when have people now to one? when we have people now who are taking days off sick because feel traumatised by because they feel traumatised by just not feasible, war is not feasible . feasible. >> uh, there's nuclear weapons. you know, war is not feasible . you know, war is not feasible. >> all right. all the best. thank you for joining >> all right. all the best. thank you forjoining us, thank you for joining us, professor gurney. excellent stuff. royal mail could stuff. now, the royal mail could cut postal deliveries to as few as three days a week and save up to 65, £650 million a year. i'm asking today, what's the point of the royal mail anymore? i mean, they don't even turn up to my house. i martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

tonight, gb news. the people's channel tonight, gb news. the people's channel, britain's news channel . channel, britain's news channel. >> welcome back. it's 446. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now . martin daubney on gb news now. 5:00 i'll have the latest on the future of rishi sunak sunak and i'll be joined by a shadow cabinet minister as well. you won't want to miss that . now, won't want to miss that. now, yesterday we brought you an exclusive story that the royal

mail is charging innocent britons £5 to get their post back after senders unknowingly used fake stamps which were bought from the post offices. now, today , the royal mail could now, today, the royal mail could cut postal deliveries back to as few as three days a week in a bid to save up to £650 million each year . bid to save up to £650 million each year. the industry's regulator, ofcom , has warned regulator, ofcom, has warned that the service risks becoming , that the service risks becoming, quote, unsustainable without out reform. but is that fair ? well, reform. but is that fair? well, join me now to discuss it. is martin walsh who's the deputy general secretary of the communication workers union. welcome to the show, martin. presumably the idea that the post office will be cut back without you guys having a say is going to stick in your craw . going to stick in your craw. >> uh, yes , he does. uh, i mean, >> uh, yes, he does. uh, i mean, ofcom's leaked report over the weekend and, uh, and indeed their report, which has been launched today, has no involvement with the union, no involvement with the union, no involvement with the union, no involvement with any single postal worker .

involvement with any single postal worker. uh, and the opfions postal worker. uh, and the options they've put on the table, we would reject a three day uso, and we would also reject , uh, basically moving reject, uh, basically moving second class to just two days a week. uh, we believe, uh, uso one price goes everywhere . to 33 one price goes everywhere. to 33 million addresses is still a very valued part of society . uh, very valued part of society. uh, and we want to work with royal mail to build a sustainable uso. we're not opposed to change, but it's got to be changed. which is better for business? our members and the customer. >> don't you think? the problem is , though, martin, um, is, though, martin, um, irrespective of changing the delivery days , people are just delivery days, people are just losing faith in the royal mail altogether. and there's a poll out saying 49% of people have experienced royal mail delays , experienced royal mail delays, 48% say the service has got worse and 29% agree it's got worse and 29% agree it's got worse . since the start of this worse. since the start of this yeah worse. since the start of this year. i got a christmas card from america. yes today it took five weeks to get from america

and i know it was posted in time in america, there's a feeling that the service we have now simply isn't fit for purpose . simply isn't fit for purpose. >> uh, i disagree you in terms of whether it's fit for purpose. i would agree with you. last yean i would agree with you. last year, royal mail imposed a change in delivery offices, which did not work, and therefore they took too many routes out . uh, and their routes out. uh, and their members couldn't complete the uso. uh, and but we are working with now with the company to restore quality of service . uh, restore quality of service. uh, and what we want to do is make sure the regulators, uh , sure the regulators, uh, basically, uh, mantra is 93% of work first class. the next day. currently, royal mail is delivering around the 70th. we've got to improve that. uh, and whilst letters have gone down from 20 billion to 7 billion a year, parcels and onune billion a year, parcels and online shopping as has meant parcels have gone up to the

biggest in europe . uh, next day biggest in europe. uh, next day orders. there is still a big future for royal mail , but we future for royal mail, but we want to work with the company to obviously have a sustainable mail usa. >> okay . martin walsh, deputy >> okay. martin walsh, deputy general secretary of the communication workers union. thank you for joining communication workers union. thank you forjoining us. what thank you for joining us. what do you think out there about this? i mean, i've more or less, if i'm honest, i just i've given if i'm honest, ijust i've given up on on royal mail now. i just think my house, think if things get to my house, it's bonus . and private it's a bonus. and private couriers all the couriers that i use all the time, they seem to be very, very dependent the royal mail dependent with the royal mail doesn't together. doesn't get its game together. it simply totally it might simply get totally outmoded now, from one national institution to another. and this time the civil service is facing more accusations of bias once again. today last week, senior civil servants were asked what they were most looking forward to in the new year and the two most popular answers were this a change of government and a general election? well, i'm

joined now by the political commentator stephen carlton woods. welcome to the show , woods. welcome to the show, stephen. people thought before this, stephen, that the civil service was completely biased and politicised , and now they and politicised, and now they want the tories out. this proves it, it ? it, doesn't it? >> well, absolutely. um this is really raised. >> its head since, uh, the covid, uh, there's always been a bit of a standoff between the civil service and the top politicians . but generally when politicians. but generally when i've spoke to, uh, ministers and former ministers, they've always had a high regard for the civil service but that seems to have changed since the covid period. um we've seen one of the biggest, uh , problems we ever biggest, uh, problems we ever saw was sue gray going to keir starmers office. and now when we do these little polls and stuff to see how they , uh, how the to see how they, uh, how the civil service feel , um, it civil service feel, um, it really tops it off when the, uh, with anti—tory bias , when they, with anti—tory bias, when they, uh, want a change of government and a general election . it's not and a general election. it's not very it doesn't look very for good them having said that, though, stephen, to be fair,

there are quite a few conservatives who would like to see change government and see a change of government and a change and a general election. >> is this merely a reflection of a nation that wants change? >> well, i think the problem is the civil service is something i've said for the last couple of years when government has tried to implement changes or do something , there will have been something, there will have been dashed by the actions of the civil service um, and this isn't good, really . the civil service good, really. the civil service is there to assist the government. and when the government. and when the government wishes something, they should their wishes they should see their wishes through , try hamper it. through, not try and hamper it. uh there's loads of examples of hampering things, uh, even with the, uh, migration issue that we're seeing at the moment, uh, that's been hampered by civil service. uh, and when with the partygate and all that going on and with sue gray actually then going to work for keir starmer's office, this really goes deep . office, this really goes deep. um, so with john grey , uh, all um, so with john grey, uh, all this has come about when john grey has said they need to strengthen impartiality strengthen the impartiality rules , which, i mean, that's

rules, which, i mean, that's common sense when you think about it . you can't have people about it. you can't have people that are politically active working for a government or against a government, as we're seeing over recent years . and, seeing over recent years. and, um, they were talking about streamlining the civil service as well. we've still got many civil servants working from home after the covid, uh, period . but after the covid, uh, period. but we've seen the, uh, staff increase from 400,000 a year over the last eight years to 500,000 a year. so it really does need a massive overhaul . does need a massive overhaul. >> i think a lot of people will agree with that. thank you very much. stephen carlton—woods speaking, common sense on the civil now, before we civil service. now, before we move hour, i've move on to our next hour, i've got few emails i'd like to got a few emails i'd like to read out on lee anderson, who we had the of the show this had at the top of the show this houn had at the top of the show this hour. sue this had so hour. sue says this i had so much respect lee anderson . much respect for lee anderson. however, has reached zero. however, that has reached zero. um, had he never thought to think he now, he think before he acts now, he wants back . but wants his old job back. but somebody else here, um, please come back, lee says. another sue, we need you to fight for

our cause now, after the break, we will be speaking to a senior member of the labour cabinet on a knife crime crackdown. as emily thornberry . she will join emily thornberry. she will join us on the show . they are us on the show. they are reaching out to ban zombie style knives . but will that work? and knives. but will that work? and more to the point, how will they enforce it? sounds like a great idea , but let's cross examine idea, but let's cross examine that. idea, but let's cross examine that . we've got labour, labour, that. we've got labour, labour, shadow minister on the show in the next hour. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel . news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office with me, annie shuttleworth . it will me, annie shuttleworth. it will be dry evening for many areas, be a dry evening for many areas, but rain will from the but rain will arrive from the south west overnight and it south and west overnight and it will another mild night that will be another mild night that as front approaching as a warm front is approaching

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>> good afternoon. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of all across the of westminster. all across the uk. now i'm about to be joined by member shadow by a member of the shadow cabinet, a keir starmer cabinet, a sir keir starmer announced that a total crackdown on the availability of knives on our streets. that's emily thornberry. she'll be joining us soon. i'll also be asking her all about rishi sunak. um, other tories have rallied around the prime minister after a former cabinet member called for him to get the chop . and there's more get the chop. and there's more graphic detail from the trial of valdo. cocaine the man who killed three people in nottingham last year on a stabbing spree. the court heard today that he was hearing voices who threatened him and even once visited m15's london headquarters to ask them to stop controlling him. also, this houn controlling him. also, this hour, a surge in populism across europe, it's emerged that many

of the countries are capturing the spirit of brexit ahead of the spirit of brexit ahead of the european parliament elections this june. as populist, anti—eu parties are leading the way in opinion polls in nine of the eu's 27 member states . that's all coming . so states. that's all coming. so i want to hear from you and all the usual ways. email me gbviews@gbnews.uk . com a lot of gbviews@gbnews.uk. com a lot of people have been getting het up about this caldo colla con case today. man slaughter entering the plea , is that right? one of the plea, is that right? one of the plea, is that right? one of the deceased fathers certainly doesn't think so. what about conscription ? the idea that we conscription? the idea that we should stand for king and country. does country country. but does the country actually stand for us anymore? all that's coming after your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . martin middlehurst. martin >> thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the newsroom tonight is that sir

keir accused keir starmer has accused the prime of being bullied prime minister of being bullied by own mps , as today's pmqs by his own mps, as today's pmqs was by accusations of was dominated by accusations of tory infighting . it's after sir tory infighting. it's after sir simon clarke last night warned of an electoral massacre for the tories, writing in the daily telegraph that the party needs a new leader, the prime minister rebuffed the criticism , saying rebuffed the criticism, saying labour did not understand britain's values. but sir keir said tory infighting had now descended into a soap opera. >> we've seen this story time and time again with this lot part first country, second safely ensconced in westminster, they get to down the real business of fighting each other to death. the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film . eastenders ever put to film. >> you can see exactly why hizb ut—tahrir hired him in the first place, but he wants to talk about these things . even his own about these things. even his own party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country . simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr simply doesn't have a plan for

this country . mr speaker, the this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger, sticks it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing. rishi sunak ec now the government says it's committed to postal deliveries six days a week, despite a report from ofcom suggesting some days could be cut to save costs. >> number 10, though, says the government will be engaging with the options outlined by the regulator gtr, but insist deliveries on saturdays will remain . ofcom says it's vital remain. ofcom says it's vital the postal service is modernised to meet the evolving needs of consumers . others other options consumers. others other options include slowing down deliveries with most letters taking three or more days to arrive . but or more days to arrive. but communication workers union says the changes risk destroying royal mail altogether . for royal mail altogether. for councils are set to receive a £600 million boost, 500 million

of which will be used to support social care. it comes after mps called for a funding boost for struggling councils on the brink of bankruptcy . the money will be of bankruptcy. the money will be initially used for children's and adult social care over the next 18 months, but reports suggest many councils believe the funding will only prevent a financial crisis in the short tum from levelling up. secretary michael gove says the funding is vital. it's £600 million extra for local authorities, with money being directed principally towards children and children with special educational needs . with special educational needs. >> we can only devote this additional money because of the great economic management of rishi jeremy hunt, and rishi sunak and jeremy hunt, and we simply wouldn't have been able to it if we'd followed able to do it if we'd followed labour's plans to borrow £28 billion. >> michael gove, the met office, says it's still windy, particularly in the north. >> strong gales in some places, but storm jocelyn is slowly easing off the storm left thousands without power in scotland and many unable to get to work after trains were

cancelled. scotrail now says 95% of its network has reopened and at least one person is missing in south wales after going into the sea at porthcawl last night. it was the 10th named storm of the season, hitting much of britain just two days after storm isha claimed two lives. a claim of so—called copycatting by discount supermarket aldi has been dismissed by the high court. thatchers ciders had accused aldi of copying its branding, citing the supermarket taurus cloudy cider. aldi's previously been accused of mimicking its rivals with its cuthbert the caterpillar , cuthbert the caterpillar, reminding many people of m&s more familiar colin, others have pointed to similarities between its jammie wheels and the classic jammie dodger, first introduced in 1960. a spokesperson for aldi told gb news there's nothing cloudy about this judgement . about this judgement. international news and a russian military transport plane has crashed near the ukrainian border. reports are saying it

was carrying ukrainian prisoners of war who were to be exchanged in a swap. the ria news agency cited russia's defence ministry saying there were 65 ukrainian prisoners on board with six crew members and three others. reports are suggesting there are no survivors , no immediate no survivors, no immediate confirmation on the cause of that crash in the united states. donald trump swept to victory last night in the new hampshire primaries , leaving his primaries, leaving his challenger, nikki haley , with challenger, nikki haley, with few paths. now to the white house, the former president took just under 55% of the vote. president joe biden secured a comfortable win for the democrats, but mr trump could be in for an uphill battle despite strong support among the hard right, he's still facing 91 criminal charges . that's the criminal charges. that's the news on gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel .

this is britain's news channel. >> thank you polly. now let's start with some strong words from sir keir starmer. start with some strong words from sir keir starmer . the from sir keir starmer. the labour leader has said his party would oversee a total crack down on the availability of knives on our streets, and it's promising a comprehensive ban to tackle the issue of knife crime . the issue of knife crime. starmer has hit out at ministers, delayed in bringing forward a promised ban on zombie style knives, pledging to instead extend the ban to a far wider range of weapons and toughen current rules on serration and blade length. however, it is yet to be implemented. i can now speak with shadow attorney general emily thornberry. emily, welcome to gb news. it's a pleasure . to gb news. it's a pleasure. this sounds like a fantastic idea . who would disagree that idea. who would disagree that knife crime is a cancer that scours the streets of britain? how would this ban work ? how would this ban work? >> yes , we're going to take some >> yes, we're going to take some action if we get elected . action if we get elected. >> and we've had 16 different press releases from the

government saying they're going to something about it. and government saying they're going to to something about it. and government saying they're going to to see athing about it. and government saying they're going to to see any|g about it. and government saying they're going to to see any propert it. and government saying they're going to to see any proper action|d government saying they're going to to see any proper action on yet to see any proper action on it, going to do is , it, what we're going to do is, for these zombie for example, on these zombie knives at the moment, could, knives at the moment, you could, if wanted to go online and if you wanted to go online and order some and they would be delivered, know, so they delivered, you know, so they have been banned despite have not been banned despite what the government have what the government may have said, many said, there are so many loopholes we would say loopholes and what we would say is is that at the moment is this is that at the moment you buy things on you can get buy these things on marketplace cases so that you'll get individual or an get an individual or an independent company going onto the marketplace. we need to make sure that we go the sure that we go after the executives who are allowing this to happen. so online executives executives who are allowing this to h'allow so online executives executives who are allowing this to h'allow theirnline executives executives who are allowing this to h'allow their platforms jtives executives who are allowing this to h'allow their platforms to yes executives who are allowing this to h'allow their platforms to be who allow their platforms to be used in this way will face will face criminal charges and we think that that's likely to focus some minds a bit make focus some minds a bit and make sure they actually ban sure that they do actually ban these mean, there are these things. i mean, there are other swords all other things like swords and all sorts that need to sorts of things that we need to make cannot buy make sure that people cannot buy online, is the way online, because that is the way in people are getting in which people are getting around rules . in which people are getting around rules. so around the current rules. so that's the number one thing that we would that's what we we would do, and that's what we have announced. we would do, and that's what we hakaay,ounced. we would do, and that's what we hav okay,ounced.clampdown we would do, and that's what we hakaay,ounced.clampdown on >> okay, so the clampdown on selling knives is one thing. what about punishing those who

are caught. can bring knives. you say the tories are letting down a generation on knife crime, but some of the highest knife crime areas are in labour run areas, particularly in london. a 36% year on year increase in robberies at knife point , 8000 incidents a increase in robberies at knife point, 8000 incidents a year and that's happening on the watch of sadiq khan, london's labour mayor . mayor. >> in the area in which i represent , i have far too often represent, i have far too often had to go and see mother owners who have lost their sons through knife crime. >> this is an issue that i feel very strongly about . i >> this is an issue that i feel very strongly about. i am pleased to hear that the amount of teenage homicide in london has gone down by 50% recent. see, that's good. every death is an absolute tragedy. but we need to make sure that we do more and we work harder and are the things that sadiq has done. he's been pushing in the right direction, but needs direction, but he needs a national government to work with as well. what we would do if as well. and what we would do if we the national

we were in the national government that we would government was that we would make we had all kinds make sure that we had all kinds of things in place in order to make sure that we pushed youngsters another direction youngsters in another direction and away from crime . so we would and away from crime. so we would make sure that we had mental health workers in every single secondary school and part time mental health workers in primary schools . we would hubs schools. we would have hubs around the country, 156 of them, that would be paid for where we would bring everyone who whose job it is to are to keep kids out of the criminal justice system together in order to ensure that they work together, they identify by the people who are likely to be at risk and make sure that they are pushed are likely to be at risk and m'another that they are pushed are likely to be at risk and m'another direction are pushed are likely to be at risk and m'another direction instead, hed in another direction instead, and when it comes to sentencing, we have been let down by this government who still have £2.7 billion, that they have earmarked for building more prison places, and they have yet to do anything about it. they need to build those, those, those, those prison places so that we can make some proper choices. it seems to me that if you persistently carry a knife,

if you are one of these hard cases, you should go to jail. but unfortunately , at the moment but unfortunately, at the moment people are not sent to prison because there aren't the places there. and we have there. and yet we have a government sitting on that money and building prisons and not building the prisons places need. and that places that we need. and that will be music to many people's ears. >> listen to this, emily. there's a case going on at the moment in nottingham , in my home moment in nottingham, in my home city of caloocan, and went on a stabbing spree. three dead, the mother of one of the deceased, grace o'malley kumar, her mother sinead today, a couple of hours ago said i would like to see mandatory jail terms for knife carrying. is that a policy that you would like to see enacted ? i you would like to see enacted? i think that if we have people persistently carrying knives, these hard cases, they should go to jail. >> and the number of them that have gone down has gone down by a third in recent years, that is very serious. we not have the very serious. we do not have the prison places at the moment to be able to send people who carry knives to jail in the way that we would want to and can.

>> i also ask about the >> i also ask you about the contentious issue of stop and search? many times on gb news, i've spoken with former metropolitan police officers and those the area , those who work in the area, saying it is an effective tool , saying it is an effective tool, but of course been seen as but of course it's been seen as controversial by some the controversial by some in the labour party against sadiq khan vowed it out when he vowed to stamp it out when he was elected as mayor in 2013 because he felt was racist . because he felt it was racist. what's your on stop and search? >> i think that stop and search can be one of the tools that we use, but it isn't the only one and it needs to be done properly and it needs to be done properly and it needs to be done properly and it needs to be done in such and it needs to be done in such a that people feel that a way that people do feel that they not being targeted they are not being targeted because of the colour their because of the colour of their skin, they're targeted skin, but they're being targeted because . now, there because of the risk. now, there have times in my area where have been times in my area where we have had knife crime and people, youngsters have been genuinely frightened and have been tempted, therefore, to carry knives their carry knives for their own protection always say, protection as they always say, and they must not. and so what has happened is that the police have have introduced a policy of randomly people . and randomly stopping people. and when we looked at the statistics

, we saw that there were not the complaints that there are sometimes times and that people had been treated respectfully. but also if you looked at the racial of the people but also if you looked at the racia have of the people but also if you looked at the racia have stopped,a people who have been stopped, they exactly the people who exactly reflected the people who lived in my area . now, if it's lived in my area. now, if it's donein lived in my area. now, if it's done in that way , it seems to me done in that way, it seems to me that that fair. if it's seen that that is fair. if it's seen to be done in a way whereby people feel that they're being picked their picked on because of their colour , then obviously it's not colour, then obviously it's not going support that going to have the support that it needs. need to work it needs. we need to work together this, and we need to together on this, and we need to make that our communities make sure that our communities feel sufficiently that make sure that our communities feelyoung ently that make sure that our communities feelyoung men that make sure that our communities feelyoung men don't that make sure that our communities feelyoung men don't feel at make sure that our communities feelyoung men don't feel that our young men don't feel that they have to carry a knife because afraid that they because they're afraid that they might we might be attacked, but that we have stop . have to stop. >> and think people will >> and i think people will totally agree with how do totally agree with that. how do we reach these young we get reach these young men often fatherless, often directionless , often purposeless directionless, often purposeless , and they carry knives on a daily basis? how do you break that cycle ? that cycle? >> i think that when you become a teenager, you want to find another way . you want to move

another way. you want to move away from your family, you want to grow up. and so you look around to see, you know , who around to see, you know, who should i copy, who should, whose wing under? i'm wing should i come under? i'm still and at that point, you still. and so at that point, you get youngsters are get youngsters who are incredibly vulnerable to gangs, but they also could find themselves historically a teacher that they liked, a sports teacher. they liked, a youth worker. this is what we need to go back to so that youngsters have someone outside the family who they can look up to and who they can make decisions about who they want to be and they compare be and who they can compare themselves just to their themselves to, not just to their family, influences family, but outside influences as well. and if we don't provide those, then what happens is that people fall amongst people fall in amongst their contemporaries. are contemporaries. some of them are fine, but some of them are most definitely not. and you get people gangs people groomed to go into gangs and advantage of. and and take an advantage of. and that is what that vulnerability is what pushes them in the wrong direction. and if we're serious about dealing with crime, which we we have to do we must be, then we have to do something about that . something about that. >> okay, emily thornberry, shadow attorney general, thank you very much for joining us shadow attorney general, thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on

gb news. with your plans to crack down on knife crime, joining us in studio now by chris hope. that's common sense stuff. and there'll be few people irrespective of your political flags watching this show that will disagree . it's show that will disagree. it's a terrible scar on society . we terrible scar on society. we haven't done enough to clamp down. as i alluded to, there have been barriers, politically correct , particularly correct barriers, particularly around stop and search and race. but that's a common sense idea . but that's a common sense idea. >> i think she i think you saw there firm language family thorn. shadow attorney thorn. but the shadow attorney general week are seeing general this week we are seeing speeches up keir speeches coming up from keir starmer about about crime and cutting tougher on crime. cutting being tougher on crime. we back to blair's time. we go back to tony blair's time. tough crime, tough on the tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime. you heard that, didn't thornberry didn't you? emily thornberry saying, people who saying, she said people who often carry often and repeatedly carry knives should go to jail. there aren't enough places. would labour pay for more places? we are getting really into the meat of campaign . when of an election campaign. when you hear labour being so tough on crime as you heard there. >> course the ban on >> but of course the ban on zombie knives, we've heard this a idea has been a lot. this is an idea has been knocking for was

knocking around for ages. it was in king's recently . in the king's speech recently. um, this really is becoming a bit of an old chestnut now. no one's and how one's ever done it. and how would it be enforced? >> it's hard because as soon as you you ban a certain serrated blade or length of blade, the manufacturers make a bit manufacturers make one a bit less or serrated less than that. or the serrated edges not quite as sharp or edges are not quite as sharp or as pronounced, i should say. so they get round it very quickly. and what they're trying to do is a size fits all ban , and a one size fits all ban, and that's challenging. of that's proving challenging. of course, trading course, it's enforced by trading standards . as you know, labour standards. as you know, labour is right to say this. we're expecting some news off from the government on this tomorrow, thursday . and we'll hear more thursday. and we'll hear more about you right. about that. but you are right. i've been reporting on this about that. but you are right. i've enoughporting on this about that. but you are right. i've enough to ting on this about that. but you are right. i've enough to know n this about that. but you are right. i've enough to know we this about that. but you are right. i've enough to know we haveis and enough to know we have repeated attempts at banning and it so failed. it and it's so far failed. >> but it is nevertheless an astonishing where the astonishing situation where the labour party is out law and ordering the conservative body. this is what the tories should be proposing and we are hearing more from tomorrow . more from them tomorrow. >> um, we're the tomorrow is more of a crime day. if you use that vernacular in westminster

politics. so we'll be hearing more. ahead of politics. so we'll be hearing m here, ahead of politics. so we'll be hearing mhere, think. ahead of politics. so we'll be hearing mhere, think. but ahead of politics. so we'll be hearing mhere, think. but there'sd of politics. so we'll be hearing m here, think. but there's nof it here, i think. but there's no question i think safety the streets and being safe on the streets and being safe on the streets and being safe on the streets and policing is going to be a big issue in the election. >> absolutely true. >> and it is absolutely true. and i put it to emily and that's why i put it to emily thornberry, the of the thornberry, the parts of the country worst knife thornberry, the parts of the countrtend worst knife thornberry, the parts of the countrtend to worst knife thornberry, the parts of the countrtend to be worst knife thornberry, the parts of the countrtend to be on'st knife thornberry, the parts of the countrtend to be on a knife thornberry, the parts of the countrtend to be on a labour watch. >> you wouldn't bite into that, would i but it is would she? i mean, but it is true. about islington true. he talked about islington and she said, well, there has been in deaths and been a fall in deaths and homicides and she talks. i thought emotionally and personally about when she meets families. that personally about when she meets fam dreadful that personally about when she meets famdreadful stab that personally about when she meets famdreadful stab stabbings that personally about when she meets famdreadful stab stabbings inhat the dreadful stab stabbings in nottingham gets that she nottingham and she gets that she understands not she's understands that she's not she's not immune to that, but she's loathe have a go at the mayor loathe to have a go at the mayor of it is true. of london. but it is true. >> you know, people >> and, you know, people might be stabbed death be getting stabbed to death less, as said, there's be getting stabbed to death less,yearas said, there's be getting stabbed to death less,yearas yeari, there's be getting stabbed to death less,yearas year increase in in 36% year on year increase in in muggings at knife point, including on the streets of islington, an area i know well, it's cheek by jowl with the haves and the have nots. it's a classic area for street muggings right streets. this is right on her streets. this is happening on a labour watch . happening on a labour watch. >> and she said if we form a former government former national government will give for people like give the tools for people like sadiq khan to be tougher on, on

the on those, those stabbings. but yeah, there's no question it's really their, it's a failure really on their, on but is keen on their watch. but she is keen to how it's to help and how how it's implement ed is the key key detail because you can't say you're going to tough on you're going to be tough on crime oh, we don't know. >> around the community or risk losing votes. so see what losing votes. so let's see what happens. to other happens. let's turn to other matters lee anderson matters now. we had lee anderson in the studio early. we had a bit him, he bit of fun with him, but he wasn't especially happy about an article been written article that had been written about as ostensibly he about him where as ostensibly he was accusing him of grovelling back to rishi and regretting. >> think semantics . back to rishi and regretting. >> think semantics. i >> i think it's semantics. i mean, i he was being a bit mean, i think he was being a bit unfair there unfair on the telegraph. there is essentially, is semantics. essentially, he was article he was saying the article said he wants his job back, and he said if he's offered his job back, he'd take it. i mean, it's basically same thing basically the same thing he would the pm, have a would go and see the pm, have a chat has been some chat there has been some language out from number at language out from number 10 at lunchtime we like lee lunchtime saying, we like lee anderson. he's anderson. we've seen what he's said. what's get said. we know what's to get better. this is for me better. i think this is for me is naivety , um, not is political naivety, um, not recognising that sometimes you've got to take the victory. and rather than he got into a bit a battle over an

bit of a battle over, over an issue sovereignty and an issue of sovereignty and an issue of sovereignty and an issue i think issue of principle, but i think they happily they would be happily having back. is a person for the back. he is a key person for the tory winning those red tory party and winning those red wall, holding those red wall, holding on to those red wall, holding on to those red wall the election . wall seats at the election. >> okay, a quick clip >> okay, we've got a quick clip of said earlier. let's of what he said earlier. let's go to that now. >> the article i didn't say i wanted job back. martin wanted my own job back. martin the question put to me . if the question was put to me. if rishi knocking on your door rishi came knocking on your door and you to come back as and asked you to come back as deputy accept? deputy chair, would you accept? i slightly i said yes, that's slightly different asking for my different for me. asking for my job back . job back. >> it is a bit, um, potatoes, potatoes , tomatoes, tomatoes. potatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes. >> you say tomato , tomato, i >> you say tomato, tomato, i think i mean , i think he's think i mean, i think he's essentially saying, i mean, we had heather wheeler, the former former senior whip, in in the same seat, two hours ago. she said, just go and have a cup of tea with rishi and sort herself out, and that's where we are. but he is being widely mocked. he a sensitive he is quite a sensitive person, isn't you that he isn't he? and you heard that he didn't being mocked isn't he? and you heard that he didlabour being mocked isn't he? and you heard that he didlabour mps being mocked isn't he? and you heard that he didlabour mps when|g mocked isn't he? and you heard that he didlabour mps when|g rnearly by labour mps when he nearly voted no last week and then walked out the lobby. >> and he that his >> yeah, and he said that his bookings in bookings haven't gone down. in fact, bookings have

increased. >> love him. they love out >> love him. they love him out there particularly the there and particularly in the southern want southern areas. they want to hear the saying, hear what the north is saying, what this person the what how is this person the first time he voted tory was for himself in 2019 as an mp before the house, labour council, of course, and labour supporter . course, and labour supporter. and they want know, well, you and they want to know, well, you know, been on is know, the road he's been on is fascinating tories. know, the road he's been on is fas> yeah. >> yeah. >> first off chris, >> see first off chris, always a pleasure. never a shaw. thank you valdo you very much. now valdo calacanis was unlawfully at large and wanted on a warrant for assault of an emergency worker when he killed three people in nottingham last year on a stabbing rampage . i'm on a stabbing rampage. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

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lots of anti—eu parties leading the polls ahead of this year's eu elections , but first to the eu elections, but first to the killings of three people in nottingham , my home city, last nottingham, my home city, last year , nottingham crown court has year, nottingham crown court has been told. that vowed okolicany was unlawfully at large and wanted on a warrant for assault of an emergency worker when he committed the heinous crimes. in that stabbing frenzy . well, that stabbing frenzy. well, joining me now is former metropolitan police service senior investigating officer peter kirk . and peter, always a peter kirk. and peter, always a pleasure to have you on the show. can i ask you a basic question about the terminology of the type of crime? a lot of people are feeling very, very confused about the fact that a man who's killed three people in cold blood , clearly premeditated cold blood, clearly premeditated , has only been charged with manslaughter. how can that happen ? happen? >> what we're talking about, fundamentally, is the difference between, uh, the actual acts involved in the offence and the

intention in the mental element for murder. >> you need to be able to prove that someone intended to kill or cause really serious harm as a mental element, as something in their mind. >> um , for manslaughter , you can >> um, for manslaughter, you can be causing the death without having that specific intent there. >> so . so where we're talking >> so. so where we're talking about mental health impairment such that it amounts to sufficient for the mental health professional , uh, to agree that professional, uh, to agree that it amounts to, um, them having diminished responsibility . diminished responsibility. >> uh, it's really talking about the fact that they were, uh, carrying out acts without a mental element to cause the harm they deliberately caused in doing the acts. >> but the mental element isn't there behind it. >> the premeditation would seem self—evident. he left home with

a bag full of weapons and then stole a van and used it as a weapon in itself. after stabbing three people, he tried to break into a homeless shelter, but was foiled in that could have done much worse. but on the specific issue, pete , of the mental issue, pete, of the mental impairment , issue, pete, of the mental impairment, a lot of people, including victims of the family , including victims of the family, aren't buying that grace grace's father, one of the deceased, said in a victim statement in court . it is clear to see that court. it is clear to see that you planned your attack . you you planned your attack. you have deceived psychiatrists who have deceived psychiatrists who have based their opinion on partial diagnosis and reports. and that begs the question peter, can people in court play the game, play the system to avoid the harsher penalty ? avoid the harsher penalty? >> uh, to a certain extent, i'm sure they can. >> but that is why the, um, opinions of several, um, eminent

, uh, psychiatrists or psychologists or medical professionals of other types is required, and they're required to agree. and then the crown prosecution service, uh, decide whether to accept the plea on that basis . yes. that basis. yes. >> and that will be, um, from the crown prosecution service's point of view. >> um, looking at how that evidence of those professional psychiatrists will come across to a jury and whether or not they would be likely to disagree with them. and so it's only usually in the clearest possible cases , um, where there is an cases, um, where there is an acceptance of a plea to manslaughter by diminished responsible party, um, and quite often you'll have a trial for murder and the jury will come backif murder and the jury will come back if they find there is , uh, back if they find there is, uh, diminished responsibility, they'll come back with that as an alternative verdict . an alternative verdict. >> okay, peter, this this is the case very close to my heart. we have a video here of , case very close to my heart. we have a video here of, um, kalakani's arrest. this was taken by a friend of mine, kane

brady, who lived lives as a student in nottingham. the arrest happened right outside his house. can see that on his house. you can see that on screen this was after the screen now. this was after the stabbing spree. this was after that white van. you can see there was used as a battering ram to the attempted murder of others. this case has shocked the city. um, it is asking a lot of people. big questions. and the big question, peter , is how the big question, peter, is how can this man have been at large for nine months? he was wanted on a warrant. um for arrest, for nine months? he was wanted on a warrant. um for arrest , for on a warrant. um for arrest, for assaulting an emergency worker. what kind of questions do you think nottinghamshire constabulary will have to ask themselves and answer about the fact he was wanted yet at large, and on to commit these and went on to commit these heinous crimes? >> it sounds like that , um, >> um, it sounds like that, um, an arrest on that warrant would have prevented these offences . have prevented these offences. >> um, that's not at all clearly the case, because . the case, because. >> because it's likely that he

would have only remained in custody for a relatively short penod custody for a relatively short period of time , bearing in mind period of time, bearing in mind the relatively minor nature of the relatively minor nature of the offence he was wanted for. >> and so it's highly unlikely that that warrants the execution of that warrant itself . of that warrant itself. >> um, would have had any significant impact on this. >> what is an issue is, is the history of mental health issues . history of mental health issues. >> um, and yet again, we have this situation where, uh, people with known mental health problems , um, are allowed to problems, um, are allowed to continue living in the community, um, being trusted to take their own medication and such like, um, and, and because of the cutbacks over the years to the mental health services, which to be quite honest, were pretty threadbare to start with. uh, there is little support for them in the community. and so there is little opportunity for them to keep a good, firm grip on those individuals that

they're responsible for monitoring it. and that is a real, real problem that we do need to come to terms with. >> um, of course, people shouldn't be locked up because of mental health difficulties unless there is absolutely no alternative . and the vast alternative. and the vast majority of people , provided majority of people, provided they take their medication and comply with the requirements of their treatment plans, are perfectly safe in the community. >> unfortunately , we need to >> unfortunately, we need to have the structure there, uh, to enable that to happen safely, and we haven't got it, frankly. >> okay, peter kirk and we have to leave it there. and the final word on the story today, of course, calacanis sentence tomorrow at 11 am, david weber, barnaby's was killed barnaby's father, who was killed . my final comment to you is i believe in karma. and what goes around comes around. i hope you get all you deserve for the rest of your life . there's lots more of your life. there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00 and a few minutes. i'll tell you all about the north london rogue salesman who's been

jailed after he helped people smugglers send migrants across the channel. but first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst. >> the top stories this hour. sir keir starmer claims rishi sunakis sir keir starmer claims rishi sunak is being bullied by his own mps. today's prime minister's questions, dominated by accusations of tory infighting . it's after sir simon infighting. it's after sir simon clarke wrote in the daily telegraph warning of an electoral massacre for the tories . unless there's a change tories. unless there's a change of leader, the prime minister rebuffed the criticism , saying rebuffed the criticism, saying labour doesn't understand britain's values as you've been hearing. a judge has been urged not to pass a whole life order on waldo calican, who killed three people in nottingham. the 32 year old stabbed students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar, as well as caretaker ian coates in june last year . caretaker ian coates in june last year. he's also admitted trying to murder three

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aduh with this illness all of her adult life. talking about schizo phrenia um, she was kind and non—violent. she heard voices but would have never hurt anyone.in but would have never hurt anyone. in my opinion, this man is not mentally ill. he is a murderer. he's giving genuinely ill people a bad name and he is playing the system. john says this there is nothing mentally ill about the animal who murdered two children and a pensioner . it's murdered two children and a pensioner. it's fair to say people don't have a great deal of sympathy for this situation. that case, of course, is coming to its sentence at 11 am. tomorrow. we'll have all of that on gb news and i quickly want to mention about conscription, which we've been talking about throughout show. pauline throughout the show. pauline says martin. says this good afternoon martin. good .if says this good afternoon martin. good . if we says this good afternoon martin. good back . if we says this good afternoon martin. good back conscription . if we says this good afternoon martin. good back conscription for we says this good afternoon martin. good back conscription for our bring back conscription for our depleted armed forces this may sort out the illegal migrants crossing the channel, as they will not want join to save will not want to join to save our great britain, we say, should want to do that . if they should want to do that. if they want to stay here and somebody else said that. mark very

quickly. mark all these illegal migrants coming across the channel migrants coming across the channel, into the channel, send them into the army. say no, then send army. if they say no, then send them straight them back. well, that's straight to isn't it? now to the point, isn't it? now thousands of people are doing random acts kindness by random acts of kindness by ordering for strangers ordering bevvies for strangers in wetherspoons. marvellous. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

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talked to nadine dorries , former talked to nadine dorries, former culture secretary. >> i don't think he's a politician. i don't think he gets it. i don't think he understands what motivates people and i don't think he understands the basic principles of what it is that makes people go out and vote for a particular party. >> who cares? quite honestly, we've just got another day of the sort of westminster soap opera . opera. >> it's brilliant. >> it's brilliant. >> we need to get butler on. >> gerard butler kills them all. they're dead at the end of they're all dead at the end of it. very, very good. every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join . us a.m. hope you can join. us >> welcome back. it's 540. we're on the final furlong and you're watching all this thing to martin daubney on gb news. now now a rug salesman who acted as a money launderer for people smugglers, sending migrants across the channel, has been jailed for eight years. he's asked for gasoline, worked on

behalf of criminal gangs, operates out of northern france and officers from the national crime agency found evidence of a staggering . £1.6 million pounds staggering. £1.6 million pounds going into this man's bank accounts . i'm going into this man's bank accounts. i'm joined going into this man's bank accounts . i'm joined now by accounts. i'm joined now by international human rights lawyer david. hey david, welcome to the show. it's always a pleasure, a case, david, that will make many people despair. here. here's a guy, an iranian man. um, not a british citizen accepting money from iranian ends abroad repeatedly. £1.6 million to help them get into britain . million to help them get into britain. he's million to help them get into britain . he's been jailed for britain. he's been jailed for eight years, yet he hasn't been deported. why not? >> well good good good good. >> well good good good good. >> good evening . >> good evening. >> good evening. >> you know, i think i think obviously we welcome the jailing of anyone that's involved in such circumstances. people smuggling and particularly obviously he is a human rights abusen obviously he is a human rights abuser. that's fantastic. um, but rightly, um , he hasn't but quite rightly, um, he hasn't been deported. that's not mentioned . but also of the mentioned. but also one of the big issues here is that eight

years the gentleman was found guilty of five offences, one of which alone has a terme of 14 years. if you look at the maximum sentence, if we are supposing fighting back against the people that facilitate people smuggling, the people that facilitate people smuggling , the people people smuggling, the people that abuse the human rights of the asylum seekers the genuine asylum seekers coming here, if we're handing out eight year sentences , which out eight year sentences, which will probably halved , is that will be probably halved, is that really a deterrent when this person has had millions of pounds running through his accounts under noses of the accounts under the noses of the authorities, i think it's the opposite of a deterrent any opposite of a deterrent to any would smuggler and would be people smuggler and their financiers , know, their financiers, you know, totally . totally concur. >> and for those, um, on screen , >> and for those, um, on screen, you can see footage here of his arrest. national crime agency went into his office, i believe that's in wood green in london. um, he was nicked, as you say , um, he was nicked, as you say, eight years, £16 million for eight years, £16 million for eight years. he'll be out in four years. that's not a bad return. hardly sends out the message that we're stamping out the evil of people smuggling, does it? david? hey i think it. >> absolutely. i think it sends

the opposite message. i mean, we all remember a while ago, perhaps um . uh, suella perhaps when, um. uh, suella braverman that had had braverman had that had had a roundtable with people to stamp out dodgy lawyers to stamp out dodgy bankers, threats of life sentences for people involved in people where that people smuggling. where is that now? , this this was a now? of course, this this was a defence pact that dated back to 2021. but even when we look at the actual of this, the actual details of this, a lot of the evidence was gained from investigation , not from an itv investigation, not from an itv investigation, not from our fantastic police force finding these people. you know, it shouldn't be difficult if this is having that amount this man is having that amount of money going through his bank account. are the banks account. what are the banks doing? rather doing? you know, rather than chasing nigel chasing the likes of nigel farage de—banking farage and de—banking innocent people, not people, why are they not working? more on on stamping this shows this out. and i think it shows us seriousness is there us that the seriousness is there from the financial side is just not there. and no doubt, david, that this individual, not there. and no doubt, david, that this individual , just the that this individual, just the tip of the iceberg, he'll be part of a criminal network and these are massive sums of money. >> this is not a few quid washing on international bank transfers. this coming from transfers. this is coming from overseas. it's two a non—british

national. and presumably he's squirrelling that money away. and eight years for that amount of money, £1.6 million is an absolute insult to british taxpayers who are now footing the bill to put this guy up in board and lodgings in prison. >> absolutely . and i think, you >> absolutely. and i think, you know, it's, you know, i don't want to underestimate the work that's involved in these type of investigations, but i'm sure with a, know, with with a, with a, you know, with a few months, know, yourself few months, you know, yourself and myself could actually get more know, more more people, you know, in more detail on this. it's not difficult if people are paying people come here. it isn't people to come here. it isn't that difficult to find these people and give large people and to give them large sentences. this is meant to people and to give them large seraznces. this is meant to people and to give them large sera deterrent,iis is meant to people and to give them large sera deterrent, it is meant to people and to give them large sera deterrent, it reallyant to people and to give them large sera deterrent, it really isn't) be a deterrent, it really isn't this. this man will out this. this man will be out in four um, the amount four years. um, and the amount of money he have earned of money he would have earned from you know, from that, you know, he's probably type probably the criminal type is probably the criminal type is probably thinking probably looking at it thinking this a this is actually, you know, a good return. like you say, that is not a deterrent. was is not a deterrent. there was five one alone, of five offences. one alone, of which they could have given 14 years for one them. and years for just one of them. and he gets eight years. they'll be laughing us now with people smugglers. >> so? so on earth do you

>> so? so why on earth do you think the penalty was so, think that the penalty was so, was so lax , was so lenient? was so lax, was so lenient? i mean, at a time approaching a general election at a time where government of all stripes are promising to get tough on clamping down on the evil people, smuggling gangs , that's people, smuggling gangs, that's what this is. and yet they're handing out toytown sentences. well, that's the thing. >> i think people are still not, you know, and it's obviously the judiciary is you know, aside from supposedly . so, from politics, supposedly. so, you know, it's, you know, people i think are not taking this seriously . and if you at it seriously. and if you look at it from, man breached the from, yes, this man breached the law money law in terms of money laundering, but he is a human rights abuser. taken part rights abuser. he has taken part in facilitating the abuse of people's rights and we are people's human rights and we are supposed to have maximum supposed to have the maximum sentences for things like that, eight years down four. really eight years down to four. really isn't that unless and until our authorities, our politicians and our seriously our judges take this seriously and send a deterrent message to these people and the banks that are not picking this up, these people and the banks that are not picking this up , then it are not picking this up, then it will continue. and you know, i was disappointed when i saw

this, this, this sentence because it is not going to help fix the problem . um, yeah. fix the problem. um, yeah. >> david. hey, i think many people watching gb news now will echo that sentiment . thank you echo that sentiment. thank you for joining us on the show. forjoining us on the show. a poultry eight years for a £16 million racket smuggling people into britain was that say about our priorities as a nation? david? hey always a pleasure. thank you very much . now, thank you very much. now, yesterday we spoke about the huge increase in popular of anti—eu party, the alternative for germany. but now it's emerged that many other countries are capturing the delicious spirit of brexit ahead of elections this june. populist anti—european parties are leading the way in opinion polls in nine out of the eu's 27 member states, including france , member states, including france, austria and poland . so it looks austria and poland. so it looks like the brits have started something and i can now speak with the deputy leader of the rejoin party, richard morley.

rejoin eu party, richard morley. rich richard, you want to rejoin the eu? but it seems that the european member states are revolting. don't share your revolting. they don't share your thoughts and the political trend is towards is towards more nationalist populist parties and away from the european dream . away from the european dream. >> yes. well i mean, we're living in a time of crisis, uh, with the climate change problem and particularly with the immigration issue . and immigration issue. and naturally, during a time of crisis, people tend to turn towards stronger. right wing orientated parties and this has been seen throughout history. it's a normal reaction whether or not it actually comes about is another issue . is another issue. >> to say this is to do with climate change. i mean, you've kind of half hit the nail on the head because when you at head because when you look at the sorts of parties expected to lose seats, get swept aside, there's actually a huge backlash against the greens. they're expected to lose ten seats if you look at the polls. and that's because in places like

germany and places like holland, punitive net zero policies have sent farmers into cities to close them down because people don't didn't vote for these measures. now they're being given the chance. they're actually voting against them . actually voting against them. >> well, of course people have economic problems. economic problems brought about by the climate change, but also by the wars that are currently going on and also by the ever increasing wealth gap that has swept across the world. so consequently, people are in fear. they're in fear of losing their jobs , in fear of losing their jobs, in fear of losing their jobs, in fear of losing their jobs, in fear of poverty and they see immigrants in particular as being a great threat to their personal fortune . and so personal fortune. and so consequently, they look towards the parties that offer or promise a solution to these issues . issues. >> but those are very real concerns of millions and millions of voters across all of these countries. and, you know , these countries. and, you know, we are expecting a huge swing

away from open borders as the european, the eu dream. the liberal left , the centrists are liberal left, the centrists are expected to be ameliorated . and expected to be ameliorated. and if parties become affiliated, if the hungarian parties become affiliated, then we will see potentially the anti—eu populist . its in control of 49% of the european union chamber. this is a huge revolution . yes a huge revolution. yes >> i mean, this threat has been hanging over europe for quite some time and it hasn't actually materialised until now. until now , you've seen, of course, now, you've seen, of course, marine le pen trying twice in france and not actually succeeding . and so, yes , there succeeding. and so, yes, there is a swing to the right, but whether or not that manifests itself into actually constructive proposals for these countries to leave europe is an entirely different issue . and entirely different issue. and when it comes down to the referendum that would be required for these countries to

leave europe, i very much doubt if the people will go that far . if the people will go that far. of course we have to wait and see, but we also have to realise that the crisis that we're experiencing the moment is experiencing at the moment is not going to go on forever , and not going to go on forever, and there will be solutions found and the temperature of the problem will, uh, begin to fall. so i'm not pessimistic. moreover just because we have a crisis and we have a move in that direction doesn't mean to say that it's the right , direction doesn't mean to say that it's the right, right thing to do at this moment. in my belief, when you're faced with a crisis as severe as we are in the world at the moment, the thing to do is come together thing to do is to come together for nations , to together for nations, to work together in harmony and cooperation so that we can collectively solve these problems . these nationalistic problems. these nationalistic policies don't really. and we've seen this throughout history actually solve the problems that affect the global whole . affect the global whole. >> so how does the european union help in that context ? for union help in that context? for example, germany is heading

towards recession. the entire eurozone is heading towards recession. there are already member states of the eu. you can't blame brexit for that. no of course i don't. >> the point is that of course, the recession that's currently going on in germany has been directly affected by the loss of the oil from russia . uh, since the oil from russia. uh, since the oil from russia. uh, since the start of the ukrainian war. this is affected the german economy and caused this semi recession that is going on at the moment. of course, that war will not last forever and lots of members will be light at the end. >> lots of member states, richard, are seeing that actually they would like to be energy sovereign and energy self sufficient to get around being dependent on tyrants like putin. but the european union won't allow it because the church of net zero prohibits them from from going for their own coal, their own fracking, their own oil. and it's precisely this external control of nation states that is leading people to

have this awakening that we might be better off outside the eu and swinging against it. and thatis eu and swinging against it. and that is the direction of travel. le pen expected to take 25 seats. maloney's brothers of italy, 27 afd in germany doubung italy, 27 afd in germany doubling their seats to 19, the greens losing ten renew their the pro—eu centrist liberals down from 101 to 86. the writing is on the wall and that is, people are moving away from the european dream . european dream. >> yes , but i, i can perhaps, uh >> yes, but i, i can perhaps, uh , picture the thing like this for you . imagine if you were on for you. imagine if you were on the edge of a jungle and you knew that in this jungle there were all sorts of dangers, like tigers and bears and all the rest of it. and you have one path in which you could go down that path with the group of other people to gather and face the threats in commune without those other people. or you can go it alone. you can take your own path through the jungle and

try to work your way through it. i think most people would tend to stick with the group, would tend to work through these problems together and get through safely on the other side. whilst most people who go alone through the jungle and i've actually done this, most people that go alone through the jungle tend to be in greater danger. jungle tend to be in greater danger . and when faced danger. and i think when faced with the cold, uh, face reality of our situation , i think the of our situation, i think the majority of people in europe and indeedin majority of people in europe and indeed in britain will choose to collectivise with other nations and face these problems together rather than to go it alone, because that's a dangerous path. we've seen that before in the 19305. we've seen that before in the 1930s. we don't want to go back there again. >> i waited the entire interview, richard, for you to mention the 1930s and fascism and, you know, the illusion that all this is a right wing theory. you came in right on the final furlong. thank you very much . furlong. thank you very much. richard morley, leader of the rejoin eu party. whenever we

talk about the people voting away from the european union , away from the european union, isn't it always the case? it's we whiffs of fascism. 1930 germany from gary lineker. all the way through. it seems they've all got all they've got. this is democracy in action. they want their power back . they they want their power back. they don't want to be told how to live their lives. they're going to for it in may across the to vote for it in may across the eu zone, as they did in britain for brexit. i've been martin daubney after this dewbs& co 617 see you the same time tomorrow, 3:00. cheers . 3:00. cheers. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb solar sponsors of weather on. gb news. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office with me, annie shuttleworth . it will me, annie shuttleworth. it will be a dry evening for many areas, but will arrive from the but rain will arrive from the south and west overnight and it will be another mild night that

as approaching as a warm front is approaching through rest the into through the rest of the day into the south and west. ahead of that, we a ridge that, though, we do have a ridge of higher pressure, so that will settle down. so winds settle things down. so the winds should ease through the evening and we've seen and any showers we've seen across of scotland across many parts of scotland will tend to fade away or fade away. dry for a dry away. so a dry night for a dry evening for many. but rain does arrive through the night from the southwest, across parts of wales, and cornwall, and wales, devon and cornwall, and into ireland, where the into northern ireland, where the rain persistent. into northern ireland, where the rain that persistent. into northern ireland, where the rain that we persistent. into northern ireland, where the rain that we will rsistent. into northern ireland, where the rain that we will see ent. into northern ireland, where the rain that we will see some ahead of that we will see some mist and fog developing low cloud on the hills and it will be chilly start north be a chilly start across north and very different and east, but a very different story in the and west. story in the south and west. much milder and that milder, gloomier feel will become more widespread through thursday. so it's cloudier widespread through thursday. so it's than cloudier widespread through thursday. so it's than today cloudier widespread through thursday. so it's than today with cloudier widespread through thursday. so it's than today with persistentar day than today with persistent rain, particularly across scotland , bringing some hill scotland, bringing some hill snow, but also across wales, parts of cumbria , south—west parts of cumbria, south—west scotland two and into the southwest through the day. the rain will be fairly persistent in though it in the southeast, though it should it will be should stay dry and it will be another mild day tomorrow. and then on thursday. friday morning we see quite a blustery band of

rain. push eastwards across the country that should clear through the few hours to through the first few hours to leave, many a and fine leave, many with a dry and fine day. but it will feel a little bit fresher than recently. but plenty sunshine the cards plenty of sunshine on the cards for little bit for friday. a little bit cloudier but generally dry cloudier but generally quite dry for weekend . see you later. for the weekend. see you later. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

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