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and uk civilians must be trained and equipped to form a civilian , and equipped to form a civilian, and equipped to form a civilian, a citizen army, in case of a war with russia. well, that's what one of the uk's top army bosses has said today. apparently we also need to change our mindset as well and prepare to go to war. let me ask you a very simple question. would you be prepared to fight for this country? what about your loved ones? be prepared to ones? would you be prepared to send to fight as well send them up to fight as well and free drug overdose kits to be made available for opioid addicts? is this a good idea? should we now start treating drug as a public health drug abuse as a public health issue ? and face it right,
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issue? and let's face it right, people seem to be constantly offended in this society. and according to one columnist, we're living in the of we're living in the age of outrage . are . we? yes, indeed . outrage. are. we? yes, indeed. that's all to come in the next houn that's all to come in the next hour. and also, a very important conversation arose, broken out between the uk america about between the uk and america about what t. how on earth do we make the best cup of tea? mike waving it salt. what on earth is going on before we get stuck into all of that, let's cross live for tonight's latest news headlines . michelle >> thank you. good evening. well, sir keir starmer claims rishi sunak is being bullied by his own mps . with today's prime his own mps. with today's prime minister's questions dominated by accusations of tory infighting. that's after simon clarke wrote in the daily telegraph warning of an electoral massacre for the party. unless there's a change of leader . the mp rebuffed the
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of leader. the mp rebuffed the criticisms , though, saying criticisms, though, saying labour doesn't understand britain's values. but sir keir says the infighting has now descended into a soap opera , descended into a soap opera, saying this story time and time again with this lot party first, country second safely. >> a second in westminster, they get down to the real business of fighting each other to death , fighting each other to death, the country forced to endure their division and chaos. the longest episode of eastenders ever put to film. >> you can see exactly why hizb ut—tahrir hired him in the first place, but he wants to talk about these things, even his own party are now realising that he simply doesn't have a plan for this country. mr speaker, the member for dagenham and rainham said it's difficult to identify the purpose of his leadership and long time and long time celebrity backer steve coogan recently said he licks his finger stick it in the air and just sees which way the wind is blowing. >> rishi sunak now a judge has
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today been urged not to pass a whole life order on the man who stabbed three people to death in nottingham , waldo kalakani , nottingham, waldo kalakani, pleaded guilty to manslaughter by diminished responsibility for killing students barnaby weber, grace o'malley kumar as well as caretaker ian coates. in june last year, the 32 year old admitted trying to murder three pedestrians who were hit by a van on the morning of the attacks as well. well, sentencing began today and is due to conclude tomorrow . the due to conclude tomorrow. the government says it's committed to postal deliveries six days a week, despite a report by ofcom suggesting some days could be cut to save costs. number 10 says the government will engage with the options outlined by the regulator , but insist deliveries regulator, but insist deliveries on saturdays should remain. ofcom says it's vital the postal service is modernised to meet the evolving needs of consumers, with other options including slowing down deliveries. most letters taking three or more
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days to arrive . but days to arrive. but communication workers union spokespeople say the changes risk destroying royal mail altogether . local councils are altogether. local councils are set to receive a £600 million boost, 500 of which will be used to support social care. it comes after mps called for a funding boost for struggling councils on the brink of bankruptcy. the money will initially be used for children's and adult social care over the next 18 months, but reports suggest that many councils believe the funding will only prevent a financial crisis in the short tum from levelling up. secretary michael gove says the funding is vital . gove says the funding is vital. >> it's £600 million extra for local authorities, with money being directed principally towards children and children, with special educational needs. we can only devote this additional money because of the great economic management of rishi sunak and jeremy hunt, and we simply wouldn't have been able if we'd followed able to do it if we'd followed labour's plans to borrow £28 billion. >> michael gove , now the met
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>> michael gove, now the met office, has said in the last hour it is still very windy in the north of england , with the north of england, with strong gales in some places , but strong gales in some places, but storm jocelyn is slowly easing off the storm last night left thousands without power in scotland and many unable to get to work. after trains were cancelled . scotrail has also cancelled. scotrail has also said in the last hour, 95% of his network is now operational. at least one person, though, is still missing in south wales after going into the sea at porthcawl last night . it was the porthcawl last night. it was the 10th named storm of the season, hitting much of britain just two days after storm isha claimed two lives. now a claim of so—called copycatting by discount supermarket aldi has been dismissed by the high court . it thatchers ciders had accused aldi of copying its branding , citing the branding, citing the supermarkets taurus cloudy cider. aldi has previously been accused of mimicking its rivals with the cuthbert the caterpillar , reminding many caterpillar, reminding many shoppers of m&s more familiar.
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colin others have pointed to similarities between its jammie wheels and the classic jammie dodgen wheels and the classic jammie dodger, which was first introduced in 1960. a spokesperson for aldi told gb news today there's nothing cloudy about this judgement . cloudy about this judgement. international news and a russian military transport plane has crashed near the ukrainian border. reports are saying it was carrying ukrainian prisoners of war who are going to be exchanged in a swap. the ria news agency cited russia's defence ministry saying there were 65 ukrainian prisoners on board, with six crew members and three others. reports say there are no survivors and in the united states , donald trump united states, donald trump swept to victory in the new hampshire primaries overnight, leaving new challenger nikki leaving his new challenger nikki haley, few paths now to the haley, with few paths now to the white house, former white house, the former president took 55% of the vote, while joe biden secured a comfortable win for the democrats. but mr trump could be in for an uphill battle despite strong support among hard right.
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he's still facing 91 criminal charges . that's the news on gb charges. that's the news on gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> thanks for that, polly. that old story there just made me want. i'm suddenly craving some beef monster munch. i do love those crisps. anyway, i am michelle dewberry i'm with you till 7:00 here on dewbs & co till 7:00 here on dewbs& co alongside the pr alongside me, my panel, the pr consultant alex dean and the senior lecturer at queen mary university, johnson. university, richard johnson. good gents to both of good evening, gents to both of you . you. >> pickled onion monster munch. >> pickled onion monster munch. >> i can't bear pickled >> oh, i can't bear pickled onion crisps. >> want cuthbert the caterpillar. >> oh, do you? but who even likes pickled anyway? >> oh, do you? but who even likei pickled anyway? >> oh, do you? but who even likei knowad anyway? >> oh, do you? but who even likei know one anyway? >> oh, do you? but who even likei know one do anyway? >> oh, do you? but who even likei know one do like way? >> oh, do you? but who even likei know one do like pickled >> i know one i do like pickled onions, but two pickled onions in crisp, delicious. in a crisp, delicious. >> some scampi and lemon >> i got some scampi and lemon knickknacks christmas. knickknacks for christmas. and that favourite presents. >> i prefer nice and spicy. >> i prefer nice and spicy. >> yes. anyway, i digress , i you >> yes. anyway, i digress, i you know the drill on dewbs& co you
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can us tonight can get in touch with us tonight with is on your mind, with whatever is on your mind, whether it's crisps anything whether it's crisps or anything else. get in touch with me. gb views gb com is how you views at gb news. com is how you reach me. or you can tweet me at gb news. got a packed show coming to talk to you about coming up to talk to you about tonight on the agenda. also, i do talk to you about do want to talk to you about a cup of tea because there's a very that's broken very strange rail that's broken out the us and the uk out between the us and the uk about what makes a perfect cup of tea. so i'll come on to that. uh, i to talk to you uh, also, i want to talk to you about national yes. about national service. yes. look, taking the look, i'm taking one for the team. have dressed as team. i have dressed as a beefeater. as my viewer, dave has just pointed out, i'm getting fighting getting into the fighting spirit, all spirit, uh, becoming all nationalistic whatever the nationalistic or whatever the word you fight for word is. but would you fight for your country? come on to your country? we'll come on to that in a few minutes. but that story in a few minutes. but speaking fighting, the tories speaking of fighting, the tories are it again. i don't know are at it again. i don't know what with guys what is wrong with these guys today. sir today. now, you've seen sir simon clarke. he written simon clarke. he has written a piece in the telegraph and he's basically saying mps need piece in the telegraph and he's ba getlly saying mps need piece in the telegraph and he's ba getlly �*of'ing mps need piece in the telegraph and he's ba getlly �*of rishi mps need piece in the telegraph and he's ba getlly �*of rishi sunaks need piece in the telegraph and he's ba getlly �*of rishi sunak aseed to get rid of rishi sunak as their pm, or face being massacred pending general massacred in the pending general election, or the tories . i have election, or the tories. i have to say they've come out and said
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he needs to basically stop it and that the party needs to unite rishi sunak. what unite around rishi sunak. what do you make to it all, richard? i think changing the leader now is too little, too late. >> i mean, this country in my view, doesn't feel markedly better than it did in 2010. we've become used to food banks, the levels of homelessness are higher than what we saw under the previous labour government. pubuc the previous labour government. public infrastructure feels like it's crumbling incomes will be lower this upcoming election than they were at the last election. and so yes, you can you can say you could try to relitigate whether it was correct to get rid of boris johnson and eventually replace him with rishi sunak and maybe the conservatives might look back at that and think perhaps they made a mistake. but it's too late now to change. and there are are bigger there are there are bigger issues foot here any issues at foot here that any leader of the conservative party, i don't think could turn around. so just what are around. so i just think what are your playing out like your lots playing out like they're about that they're talking about here, that sunak from asset to
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anchor? >> um, many mps would find another change of leader ridiculous . another change of leader ridiculous. but what could be more ridiculous than meekly sleepwalk towards annihilation ? sleepwalk towards annihilation? an i mean, yeah, what are you all doing? >> i mean, apart from anything else, if you want to replace a leader , you can't just do it. in leader, you can't just do it. in theory, you have to have someone who's actually willing to replace them, and a good candidate. and all the people who agitating for this, and who are agitating for this, and there of them, there aren't that many of them, but who are agitating but the people who are agitating for , talk about it in theory, for it, talk about it in theory, a theoretical person might a a theoretical person might be a better candidate against starmer. you an starmer. well, you need an actual to that gap. actual person to fill that gap. but moreover even that but moreover, even if that weren't case, it is, weren't the case, which it is, the ability of the right of the party, the conservative party, to which belong to convene a to which i belong to convene a circular firing squad and then start pulling the trigger until the magazine is are empty is remarkable. if you think about the fact that i mean, david cameron sort of went on his own terms as not, you know, at least he decided the time of his own going. but theresa may, boris
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johnson and liz truss have all been defenestrated by their own mps. not you know, not a single shot in anger fired by the labour party. they all defenestrated by their own side. theidea defenestrated by their own side. the idea adding another one the idea of adding another one to that list at this point in the electoral cycle. i just think due respect sir think with due respect to sir simon is crackers. simon clarke, is crackers. >> richard, it's quite >> sorry, richard, it's quite i mean, the differences in the political cultures between labour conservatives are labour and the conservatives are very interesting on this. >> week the 100th >> this week is the 100th anniversary of the first ever labour government , and that labour government, and that prime minister was ramsay macdonald. ramsay macdonald became leader, became labour leader, challenging the previous labour leader successfully , a man leader successfully, a man called john robert clynes. in 1922. that was the last time a labour incumbent leader lost a leadership challenge to someone else, and labour got a new leader without that leader going under their own terms , the under their own terms, the tories have trebled that in this decade and so there's something different about the way that the and i think it's partly because the conservative party does have this kind of ruthless pursuit of power in it. above all else, i
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do isn't that politicians generally, i think it's i think well, i think with labour, the part of the political culture of labouris part of the political culture of labour is there's a there's an idealism that's baked into the, into, into the labor party. and yes, there's a lot of infighting in labour. i'm not putting putting that aside, but i think the conservatives, they can be more mechanical, more precise about that pursuit of power. that being said , this particular that being said, this particular intervention i don't think gets them any closer to that pursuit of power . of power. >> yeah, well, i agree with that entirely. >> we are sunak will lead the conservative party into the next election, and he should do. but reflecting on your point about the political the difference in political culture the cost the culture for the cost for the labour party, on other hand, labour party, on the other hand, really this will come up really is this will come up soon. we'll have this next general election it, but general election before it, but we'll up soon on 20 years we'll come up soon on 20 years since the last time, uh, the labour party election , labour party won an election, um, 2005. and of course, they were led then by tony blair. and if you take tony blair out of
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the equation, the labour party hasn't won an election in my lifetime. they've only won and i'm 44. they've only won an election with blair at the helm. and that might suggest, on the other hand, the labour party is not quite ruthless enough . and not quite ruthless enough. and certainly, um, whilst in the end, in given the electorate gave their verdict in 2019, jeremy corbyn went. that was a bad period for the labour party, corrosive and damaging and quite arguably i think the labour party took too long to get rid of a leader who, whatever you think of the sunaks and johnsons of this world, they had a leader who worse for their brand who was worse for their brand and for their so the and for their standing. so the labour party, in my view, could probably do with being a bit more ruthless. >> says if anyone >> um, diana says if anyone should it should be simon should go, it should be simon clarke. says, michel, all clarke. linda says, michel, all of called karma. and of this is called karma. and it's all occurred because sunak plotted to remove our democratically elected pm, boris johnson. he's ruined the conservative party and now the country will be punished with a labour government, she says. ron says i wouldn't. i am a lifelong
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tory voter, but if sunak is still the leader at the next election, he says he would not vote tory. this whole nation. sorry, this whole notion about ousting boris johnson . there are ousting boris johnson. there are so many people, many of them watch this programme, many of them get in touch with me that are still kind of smarting over that. they're not happy that that. they're not happy that that happened. they feel that they democratic and they engaged democratic and actually their choice, their will just pushed will was just kind of pushed away, because it away, discarded because it didn't other people's didn't suit other people's agendas. well i do think there is something to that. >> i mean, the last yougov poll that was taken in before rishi sunak resigned as chancellor, which helped to precipitate bofis which helped to precipitate boris then resigning as prime minister had labour at 36% and the conservatives at 33. a three point labour lead . a poll from point labour lead. a poll from yougov this week had labour at 47% and the conservatives at 20. but what's the point of all these polls apart from to keep people busy and earning a bit of money? well, it tells us that gives us a snapshot of the mood
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of the nation. >> and i think, why do we need to know the snapshot of the mood of every week of the nation every single week in up an election? in the run up to an election? that's not going to be happening for months on end. >> in the way that people >> in the same way that people either like to watch political discussions don't. discussions shows or they don't. some interested in some people are interested in those things. >> are you at home? do feel >> are you at home? do you feel a single week to know a need every single week to know that today it's a quarter of a percent over there and a half a percent over there and a half a percent over there change? are you that or continue. you into that or not? continue. >> i it is. >> richard i think it is. i think it's important because it can feed into the can also feed back into the government in the sense of if they in the right they are going in the right direction or the wrong direction. >> now, i agree shouldn't >> now, i agree we shouldn't have government by poll, and have government by by poll, and governments need to have a programme to forward. programme and to push forward. but sometimes polls do show but sometimes the polls do show that if country turning that if the country is turning away you need to away from you, you need to correct and can correct course. and so i can understand the instincts of what's motivated this, this latest and simon latest poll and, and simon clark's intervention. quite clark's intervention. but quite frankly, clark's intervention. but quite frankl'too late. i also don't little, too late. i also don't think it's the leader anymore. i think it's the leader anymore. i think as the james carville, think as the as james carville, the commentator, once the american commentator, once said, i think at end the said, i think at the end of the
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day, economy, stupid. day, it's the economy, stupid. >> well, of course, the economy is rather better than is doing rather better than people expected. we were people had expected. we were forecast by a b and so forecast by the a and b and so forth, indeed the bank of forth, and indeed the bank of england prognostications, england in its prognostications, had by now had expected a recession by now and had so you and we haven't had one. so you know, the economy is doing and certainly germany, know, the economy is doing and cert.wey germany, know, the economy is doing and cert.we are germany, know, the economy is doing and cert.we are doing germany, know, the economy is doing and cert.we are doing betterzrmany, know, the economy is doing and cert.we are doing better thanly, know, the economy is doing and cert.we are doing better than we and we are doing better than we might otherwise do. but i accept your premise. and given that richard about richard was talking about polling, that polling, let me supplement that point by anecdote. and point by anecdote. when i go and talk to conservative associations, um, the associations, um, around the country, find in country, i tend to find that in safer seats, members of safer tory seats, um, members of the tory party. well, you know , the tory party. well, you know, leaders come, leaders go. we might prefer one other, might prefer one to the other, but, know, we're in the but, you know, we're in the trenches and there it is. and we'll carry on campaigning for the in marginal the tory party in marginal seats, that seats, the seats that the conservative wants to win. conservative party wants to win. you tendency you were you find that tendency you were talking boris talking about, about boris johnson, boris regret, johnson, kind of boris regret, regret . you that quite regret. um, you find that quite a lot more, um, significantly and especially i think, because you find that people have joined the party those battleground the party in those battleground seats, because of seats, in part because of johnson . it was him who johnson. it was him who attracted them to the conservative party he was a
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different kind of figure and leader. what i'm expressing here doesn't of may doesn't plenty of people may dislike johnson, but they dislike boris johnson, but they can. can i mean can. they can see what i mean when he seemed when they say he seemed different. he attracted new people to the brand, in people to the brand, and in those marketplace of those in the marketplace of ideas, kinds of seats, those in the marketplace of idewas kinds of seats, those in the marketplace of idewas one kinds of seats, those in the marketplace of idewas one of kinds of seats, those in the marketplace of idewas one of the ds of seats, those in the marketplace of idewas one of the big»f seats, he was one of the big differences. the other two big differences. the other two big differences. at the last election, course, being election, of course, being brexit both of which brexit and corbyn, both of which are well. are off the agenda as well. >> thing, simon clarke are off the agenda as well. >> that thing, simon clarke are off the agenda as well. >> that if thing, simon clarke are off the agenda as well. >> that if nigel simon clarke are off the agenda as well. >> that if nigel farage clarke says that if nigel farage returns to the fray, it looks increasingly likely basically extinct the tories. uh do extinct in for the tories. uh do you that view, richard? you share that view, richard? >> i don't share the view of extinction. conservative extinction. the conservative party some party is, uh, under some accounts, the most successful , accounts, the most successful, uh, political party in the in the democratic world. um, it has this remarkable ability to refashion in and reform itself, uh, even after election defeat . uh, even after election defeat. but it could be a historic battering for the conservative party at the next election. i think especially if nigel farage gets in the issue with boris is that his leadership signalled a
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change in priorities for the conservatives and that he was able to construct a coalition in 2019 that planted itself on historic labour territory . and i historic labour territory. and i do think that , uh, you know, do think that, uh, you know, bofis do think that, uh, you know, boris himself was a flawed agent of that. but with him going, it also represented to those voters that the agenda had changed. and i know that sunak has tried to reassure them that that's not the case, but he has struggled to do that . to do that. >> we should beware our spectacles becoming too rose tinted on, on the right it boris johnson secured a thumping majority in 2019. a fair question we would then be what did we do with it? uh, you know, and there wasn't i think whatever one's position, one could be a hard core labourite and look at government and say, well, you didn't do very much. i thought we were expecting lots well, you didn't do very much. i th
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raising about reform and co, it seems to me to be another defensive polling because if you didn't have these polls, you wouldn't might just be. wouldn't you might just be. i reckon reforms doing okay reckon that reforms doing okay as is. we they're as it is. we know they're circling the 10% mark, which is seismic conservative party. >> hmm. $- $— >> hmm. well what do you make to it all? um, who's this? richard says should go. jacob says sunak should go. jacob rees—mogg run as the rees—mogg should run as the party leader would you support that of be getting that one? um, lots of be getting in touch. kemi. um another viewer says what about kemi being the next leader? what about imagine that she about suella? i imagine that she might quite popular some might be quite popular with some of at home. uh, someone of you guys at home. uh, someone else. alex says michelle sunak should go. he's not should definitely go. he's not going but much more going to win, but much more important question though, where did the scampi lemon did you get the scampi and lemon knickknacks? them from knickknacks? i got them from santa. i do appreciate they're quite hard get hold of these quite hard to get hold of these days, they? santa days, aren't they? but santa somehow it. his somehow he managed it. his magic, isn't he? after all. anyway, after break, i anyway, look, after the break, i want to you about wars . want to talk to you about wars. would you be comfortable putting yourself at front line to go yourself at the front line to go on fight for this country? if not you, then perhaps your child, grandchild, child? child, your grandchild, child?
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would that or not? would you do that or not? apparently we've got a gear up and ourselves that this and prepare ourselves that this potentially happen. see potentially might happen. see you in two.
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>> no, no. >> no, no. >> fortunately, i always told my family i'd never be prime minister. so. and chancellor of exchequer, because i can't head up of the nation up on state of the nation tonight 8:00, i will be tonight at 8:00, i will be explaining my view of sir simon clarke s extraordinary call for the prime minister to be replaced. >> can the tories win under rishi ? dad's army may have rishi sunak? dad's army may have to return in real life if the british army chief, patrick sanders , is right. but could we sanders, is right. but could we do it again? plus as the toyota chairman warns of overinvestment in electric cars , could the in electric cars, could the green lobby be running out of gas? tune in tonight at 8:00. hello there. >> i'm michelle dewberry. this is dewbs& co on gb news with you until 7:00 tonight. the pr consultant, alex dean alongside me, as is the senior lecturer at
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queen mary university, richard johnson. lance says , michelle, johnson. lance says, michelle, can i just say what a great panel you've got tonight? i'm sure they'll appreciate that. although me although alex has just told me that can no longer be that perhaps we can no longer be friends. when i was telling him my monster munch eating strategy, it's disgusting. it's not . not disgusting. >> it's absolutely disgusting. >> it's absolutely disgusting. >> it's absolutely disgusting. >> i a i a very >> i have a very. i have a very particular way that i deal with monster munch. tell you monster munch. i won't tell you what because he thinks what it is because he thinks it's gross, i'll it's absolutely gross, so i'll keep myself anyway , let's keep it to myself anyway, let's talk about very serious matters , talk about very serious matters, shall you shall we? because do you remember? it was was it remember? i think it was was it last week or so when we spoke about this off the back of the nato boss's comments? well, now, a has basically a uk army boss has basically general sanders. general sir patrick sanders. he's out today in he's come out now today in a speech said that us brits, speech and said that us brits, we basically need to get ourselves into the war mindset , ourselves into the war mindset, the war mentality. this is in the war mentality. this is in the eventuality, the potential eventuality a with eventuality of a war with russia. we know, don't we, that, um, you know, the army has been depleted. yeah, but i mean, i am a little bit uncomfortable and me and some of my viewers depart
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on my opinions when it comes to this kind stuff, but i feel a this kind of stuff, but i feel a little bit worried. feel like little bit worried. i feel like we're gung ho. we seem to be we're too gung ho. we seem to be hurtling into world iii, hurtling into world war iii, seemingly quite happy to be doing so, and it makes me a little bit uncomfortable . little bit uncomfortable. >> best way to ensure >> but the best way to ensure peace is to have a strong defence and, um, having a properly equipped and properly sized military doesn't mean that you're bellicose, doesn't mean that you are, um, want to go into conflict. it may simply mean that if you want peace, you must prepare for war. and for me, i actually don't think this is a genuine call for mass conscription. i think it is a no pun intended warning shot from senior military personnel that we are under—resourcing our military yet again. it's very interesting and we've been doing this as a country for a long, long time . we came very close long time. we came very close before the falklands conflict to scrapping a number of the warships deployed warships that were then deployed in falklands conflict, in the falklands conflict, literally matter of months and literally a matter of months and if junta in argentina hadn't if the junta in argentina hadn't beenin if the junta in argentina hadn't been in such a rush to invade, they have been much better
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they might have been much better placed months placed a mere few months afterwards. even worse afterwards. here it's even worse because our military getting because our military is getting smaller if we smaller and smaller. and if we were, he means we were, what he means is if we were, what he means is if we were in serious conflict right were in a serious conflict right now, our military too small. now, our military is too small. and i think it's a very fair point for somebody to make. >> would stand and fight for >> would you stand and fight for your country? >> would, i mean, dare say >> i would, i mean, i dare say i wouldn't be very helpful. i'm not i am willing. not macho, but i am willing. i'm, i don't know how useful i would be, but i would absolutely serve fight die for my country. >> would you? at home. i'm interested thoughts on interested in your thoughts on that, your thoughts? that, richard. your thoughts? >> mean, seen, uh, >> yeah. i mean, we've seen, uh, we have 27,000 fewer >> yeah. i mean, we've seen, uh, we havetroops 27,000 fewer >> yeah. i mean, we've seen, uh, we havetroops in7,000 fewer >> yeah. i mean, we've seen, uh, we havetroops in the0 fewer >> yeah. i mean, we've seen, uh, we havetroops in the armyar >> yeah. i mean, we've seen, uh, we havetroops in the army now regular troops in the army now than in 2010. we've gone from about 102,000 thousand to 75,000. the conservatives had 75,000. if the conservatives had kept up with a 2.5% gdp, um, commitment to defence spending, there'd be an extra £90 billion put into the defence. uh, since 2010. um, and you hear conservatives, including the former defence secretary, ben wallace, saying that the army has been hollowed out and underfunded by his own government, in which he served
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as defence secretary. the reality is, if we are serious about the commitments that we make internationally , we have to make internationally, we have to be able to put our money where our mouth is. if we really believe in nato and we are one of the core founders of nato founded under the attlee government after the war, then we have to be able to we can't just keep looking to the americans all the time to, to, to sort of underwrite the international system . um, international system. um, especially i think , as the especially i think, as the situation within america becomes more uncertain about its willingness to, to to, always step up. um, so we have to we have to play our part. and i'm afraid that the government has, has neglected this area . and has neglected this area. and that's why we find comments that sir patrick's making at the moment. >> um, tom, who is an army veteran, says that i suspect that a large number of the current younger generation would not be prepared to go for war
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for country because they're for this country because they're too being offended and too busy being offended and protesting to figure protesting or trying to figure out what gender they are. we're going come on before the going to come on to before the end program. why are, end of the program. why we are, why all are so offended at why we all are so offended at the moment. but says i am the moment. but steve says i am an english white, straight male, age at the back of age 47, and i'm at the back of the queue absolutely the queue for absolutely everything he everything in our society, he says. we would go to war says. i doubt we would go to war with russia, but if we did, he says, i'd fight for my country and doubt i'd the back and i doubt i'd be at the back of the queue. then, um, tommy this that, and tommy this and tommy that, and tommy go but it's. hello, mr atkins, >> but it's. hello, mr atkins, when band begins to play. when the band begins to play. >> yeah, i just, i mean, we did, >> yeah, ijust, i mean, we did, um, we did actually run a poll on and were asking you on this, and we were asking you guys whether or you guys at home whether or not you would go fight for your would go and fight for your country. 63.1 of you no country. 63.1 of you said no while 36.9 of you said yes. you would. and i have to say , that would. and i have to say, that doesn't actually surprise me. i also have to say as well , doesn't actually surprise me. i also have to say as well, um, that the ministry of defence released a statement in response to these, um, conversations and suggestions, saying the british military has a proud tradition of being a voluntary force and there is absolutely no
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suggestion a return to conscription. >> hang on. it's a proud tradition, except for recent world wars. i mean, that's true up to a point. lord copper. >> yeah, but you see, does that surprise you, that poll that we've ran, that 63% of people basically said that they would not stand fight? not stand and fight? >> it's very interesting >> i you it's very interesting and no offence you, and and no offence to you, and i appreciate the channels poll you were pouring scorn on the notion of national polling. of national waited polling. i put little weight on afraid put very little weight on afraid on a twitter poll. so but you see, i do think because a lot of people would say that people would actually say that if things were perhaps different, a of people don't different, a lot of people don't feel looked after by this country. >> of people feel >> a lot of people feel that they're um, almost just they're quite, um, almost just thrown on a little bit of a scrapheap in this and scrapheap in this country. and if how you feel and if that's how you feel and you're demoralised, and you're quite demoralised, and then someone turns then when someone turns around and i know we've and goes right, you i know we've kind of slighted know kind of slighted you. i know we've you, let you down, kind of slighted you. i know we'vi you, let you down, kind of slighted you. i know we'vi know'ou, let you down, kind of slighted you. i know we'vi know we'vet you down, kind of slighted you. i know we'vi know we've treated>wn, kind of slighted you. i know we'vi know we've treated you and i know we've treated you pretty damn but this is pretty damn badly. but this is your after all. so come your country after all. so come on and step forward and fight. i just think there might be, um, a quite rude awakening for how
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quite a rude awakening for how many be prepared to many people would be prepared to do that. >> e how civilisation >> and that's how civilisation has and fail. ultimately we has fall and fail. ultimately we will decide as a country whether our future is worth living and defending, or if it's not. and we are in the course of deciding that perhaps more slowly than than these deadlines you're talking about might suggest. but i in the end we decide that i hope in the end we decide that it is worth defending. and if you do think then perhaps you do think that, then perhaps fighting for it's going to be required. i think people have to have of what the have a sense of what the alternative is. >> pull back, if >> again, if we pull back, if the united states pulls back, then who fills that space? we're in a world now where china is being much more , more being much more, more internationally , uh, proactive, internationally, uh, proactive, aggressive . um, and people might aggressive. um, and people might say, okay, well, things that are happening in taiwan or ukraine or the red sea feel far away, but these things have an immediate impact on us, actually , in terms of disrupting the economy . thick, um, order in economy. thick, um, order in which we are living standards
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depend. which we are living standards depend . and but it also has depend. and but it also has a longer terme impact because if we continue to allow, in effect , we continue to allow, in effect, appease this kind of new mode of territorial aggrandisement it they don't stop and they will come closer and closer to interests that people in this country do feel more about. and that and that's why it's important to nip it in the bud at an earlier stage. so it doesn't escalate into the kind of conflicts that become sucking everyone in, like like a world war, a global conflict. >> i agree with that. and putin has only been encouraged by, uh, the weak response from many western countries. these people in the end, only understand one thing. and whilst your position, michelle, might be entirely understandable vis a vis people's attitude towards their own and own domestic government and the travails own life, you travails in their own life, you cannotin travails in their own life, you cannot in the end say that life will be better under the putins of this rather than of this world, rather than democratic government in westminster. know westminster. and if you know these hard choices in the
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these are hard choices in the end, choose what do think end, choose what do you think would happen the would happen to the international landscape if donald trump got elected? so it's interesting. in some it's interesting. trump in some ways more isolationist it's interesting. trump in some ways either more isolationist it's interesting. trump in some ways either his'e isolationist it's interesting. trump in some ways either his predecessort it's interesting. trump in some ways either his predecessor or than either his predecessor or successor . and joe biden than either his predecessor or successor. and joe biden is, than either his predecessor or successor . and joe biden is, in successor. and joe biden is, in a lot of ways a throwback to a democratic era, not just be pre trump, but mid 20th century. and pnor trump, but mid 20th century. and prior to that, much more engaged in the world and much more outward going. i'm not a fan of the biden presidency, but that is, their credit, the flip is, to their credit, the flip side the conversation is that side of the conversation is that trump's period in office was marked by a remarkable stability in peace in international affairs. people may dislike him for all manner of things he did in the united states, in governing the united states, but in terms international but in terms of international conflict, one four conflict, it was the one four year period which year period in which putin didn't somebody the didn't invade somebody since the millennium. well he said, didn't he? >> or he keeps saying that he would out the ukraine, would sort out the ukraine, russia conflict in a day, i think is his timeframe. >> well, there was, you know, with, with actually i think an instinct oddly enough, uh, obama and trump shared quite a lot in common in terms of feeling that the states had
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the united states had overstretched itself, particularly under the george w bush administration . and both of bush administration. and both of them spoke about this in different of them different ways, but both of them kind the us to pull kind of wanted the us to pull back. but the difference with trump was that there is this sense about him sense of uncertainty about him that that ultimately this is called the madman theory of international relations. that other actors, including putin, were never really sure if he'd be willing to use as as trump said, the n word, the nuclear button . um, and even if that button. um, and even if that seemed a very, very remote possibility , a more than 0% possibility, a more than 0% chance might have restrained and putin for that, for that particular period of time. it's not a stable way of conducting international relations . but in international relations. but in the in that period, it did deliver a certain degree of ironic stability. >> it's deep. i mean, it's deeply erratic. you're right. but when you think of let's think of something outside the immediate zones , the trump immediate zones, the trump approach to north korea was impossible to predict. you know, i hate you, you ridiculous
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little rocket man. i'm coming to visit you. we'll fix this all in person. cancelled. person. the visits cancelled. you're coming. you're terrible. i'm coming. let's the peace let's skip across the peace line. mean, your head spun line. i mean, your head spun with with the positions. but there they were. since first there they were. since the first time war , a time since the korean war, a leader a western power leader of a western power walking peacefully into north korea and back again. i mean, people you know of both sides in politics had failed to move that nonh politics had failed to move that north korean relationship. >> and trump did, um, well, speaking american uk speaking of american and uk relations , opens the american relations, opens the american embassy in london. they've apologised because an american academic has basically said you should put salt in your cup of tea. i've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life, but it's good to see that they had, uh, quite a nice sense of humour because the us embassy has basically said we'll continue make our tea the continue to make our tea in the proper way by microwaving it . proper way by microwaving it. oh, you don't microwave your tea, surely ? tea, surely? >> certainly don't. >> i certainly don't. >> i certainly don't. >> there's a little bit >> um, but there's a little bit of historical parallel here. last month was the 250th anniversary of the boston tea party, when the american rebels
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threw , uh, perfectly good boxes threw, uh, perfectly good boxes of tea into the charles river in boston harbour. and that gives you a sense of the contempt that americans have for that lovely dnnk. drink. >> well, i've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life. salts in your tea and microwaves it. next, you'll be telling me that you use one tea bag per cup . you don't do that, bag per cup. you don't do that, do yes do you? yes >> and one the pot. >> and one for the pot. >> and one for the pot. >> oh, no, i use one tea bag per two cups. i'm just way too tight. >> your tea is too weak. >> your tea is too weak. >> it's not. look at it. well, actually, i was about to say look at it, but i didn't make this one. i can't claim to have made cup of but anyway. made my cup of tea, but anyway. uh, salt in your tea? microwaving is that for microwaving your tea is that for you or not? uh, after the break, i want to you about i want to talk to you about drugs. now, drug addicts, their families receive families are going to receive free overdose kits. is this free drug overdose kits. is this a idea? will start a good idea? will it start stopping these drug deaths? and a good idea? will it start stowe ng these drug deaths? and a good idea? will it start stowe needzse drug deaths? and a good idea? will it start stowe need to drug deaths? and a good idea? will it start stowe need to start deaths? and a good idea? will it start stowe need to start treating and do we need to start treating drug addiction as of
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have in the royal family the working royals, of course. now princess in hospital .
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princess in hospital. >> hi there. i'm michelle dewberry. i'm with you till 7:00 tonight here on gb news. um, stephen says michelle, 63% of your poll said that they would not fight for their country. he says all i can say is it's a good job that people didn't have that opinion in the 1930s because. right now you'd all be sitting there speaking german, he in touch he says. maureen's got in touch and said, my son and my son in law are in the military right now. are leaving in now. they are leaving there in droves . uh, they're colleagues. droves. uh, they're colleagues. they paid and they feel poorly paid and undervalued, says. i'm undervalued, she says. i'm ex—military, too, but i wouldn't fight for my country today . why fight for my country today. why would i? sometimes it feels like our country hates us. well, there you go. let me know your thoughts on that. another topic i want to cover tonight with you. drugs. um, there's a plan now being announced that basically, you would giving basically, you would be giving free kits to the free drug overdose kits to the family friends addicts. free drug overdose kits to the fami is friends addicts. free drug overdose kits to the famiis all friends addicts. free drug overdose kits to the fami is all aboutis addicts. free drug overdose kits to the fami is all about tryingddicts. free drug overdose kits to the fami is all about trying to cts. this is all about trying to tackle the opioid epidemic. do you think, richard, this is a goodidea? you think, richard, this is a good idea? handing out these kits to people? >> i we have to be led by
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>> i think we have to be led by the science on this. and this is still being trialled. and tested. uh, you see actually more developed trials of these type of programs in, um, in the united states and in canada, vancouver in particular has gone has gone even further and actually administers opioids in controlled settings. and that's probably that's the kind of the furthest extreme of this. but basically the issue, as i understand it, is that the street drugs are becoming stronger and less predictable for users. and so when users use use these, the likelihood of overdose and death now has, has has skyrocketed . and of course, has skyrocketed. and of course, in an ideal world, we would want people to abstain from drugs and not to take drugs . and i think not to take drugs. and i think thatis not to take drugs. and i think that is still the message that needs to be sent out. but for those people who are addicted, um, governments are having to make choices about how they reduce deaths . and this may be
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reduce deaths. and this may be one way to do that . one way to do that. >> i think that's exactly right about the debate you need to have. once someone is in that situation. and we used deal situation. and we used to deal with this very differently in this in post this country. in the post first world war period, when people were really to less were really starting to use less strong there's strong opioids. and there's a whole narrative about this. was it servicemen coming back and become and become addicted to morphine and painkillers after the first world and the horrors of the world war and the horrors of the trenches forth? anyway, trenches and so forth? anyway, after world after the first world war, people started abusing people started really abusing drugs and heroin and pre heroin, opiates things were opiates were things people were getting to and on getting addicted to and on private. uh um, uh, prescription people used to get heroin, people used to get heroin, people used to get heroin, people used to get in very small numbers. it was completely containable. and they could live basically normal lives they basically normal lives and they were was were were that was how they were treated. advent of the nhs, nhs doctors would prescribe um , doctors would prescribe um, strong opioids and it became more and more unfashionable. and psychiatrists and their peers disapproved of it more and more and more until in the end, you couldn't that sort of drug couldn't get that sort of drug available legitimate available from a legitimate doctor, and they would start using things like oral
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methadone, which gave nothing like same hit. and to your like the same hit. and to your point, absolutely. street drugs were getting stronger. what you could lawful and could get through lawful and legal were getting legal routes were getting weaker. you go weaker. and where do you go if you're addict, you go to get you're an addict, you go to get the stronger drug and so you've got debate what you to got to debate what you want to do. once is addicted, do. once somebody is addicted, it that's the it seems to me that's the sensible thing to do. >> and you then drug, >> and do you think then drug, drug and all the rest of it drug use and all the rest of it should treated as a criminal should be treated as a criminal issue a public health issue? issue or a public health issue? >> is both and if you are >> it is both and if you are intoxicated, much if intoxicated, just as much as if you addicted a drug, it you are addicted to a drug, it is not a mitigating factor in the course of committing a crime. indeed, it can be an aggravating that aggravating factor that you committed under committed a crime whilst under the influence an intoxicating the influence of an intoxicating substance, also substance, but it is also a harmful and pernicious addiction that needs help. >> says these kits are >> christine says these kits are a great idea because it might save lives. but she says what we need much tougher sentences need is much tougher sentences for and much better for dealers and much better services for those people whose lives are severely impacted by drug abuse. kay says definitely, drug abuse. kay says definitely, drug addiction should be treated as a health issue, she says. many people are so depressed now
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that they turn to these kind of drugs in to lift their drugs in order to lift their life and due to lack of help from their doctor here, um, the idea of henry says is ridiculous , and this idea does nothing to help people who have an addiction to drugs. well it's not helping the person that's addicted, but it's stopping them from dying. yeah, my guess is the point. >> i mean, one of the one of the concerns you might have, and this is a potential argument against kind of full decriminalisation, is that these schemes can sometimes actually increase supply . so read about increase supply. so read about this scheme in vancouver over initially the drugs are administered in a controlled setting, but eventually users are allowed to take these drugs and administer them themselves . and administer them themselves. but then there's a concern that these get passed on and sold. so you have to have very if you're going to go down this public health route, i think you have to have very stringent carefully thought through processes . um,
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thought through processes. um, because unfortunate addiction is such a such a powerful thing that it leads people to, to do all kinds of, of terrible things in pursuit of that next hit or avoiding the come down from, from, from the last one drugs. >> and indeed a lot of people. i mean, part of your point about stringent control of addiction is you want more and one of another risk with shooting galleries and state provided drugs is that you take your state provided drug and then you go out and try and score on the street as well. >> well, he's been in touch and says, are you referring to, uh, naloxone? think that's you naloxone? i think that's how you say it. and yes, that is what we're referring to. he says, this is great kit and it's this is a great kit and it's very effective. he's social very effective. he's a social worker works in worker and he's works in addiction services. he says he doesn't handing addiction services. he says he doe kits handing addiction services. he says he doe kits out handing addiction services. he says he doe kits out to handing addiction services. he says he doe kits out to users handing addiction services. he says he doe kits out to users families] addiction services. he says he doe kits out to users families . the kits out to users families. but he the issue is that but he says the issue is that those families will not those families will perhaps not be when their loved ones be there when their loved ones overdose. he says that he overdose. uh he says that he used to give out those kits to opioid users . used to give out those kits to opioid users. um, but he used to give out those kits to opioid users . um, but he says it
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opioid users. um, but he says it ends up essentially opioid users helping other opioid users as, as opposed to someone's loved one. family and friends back in their own house. what do you make to it all? get in touch and let me know. six people, uh, per day . that's what they're hoping day. that's what they're hoping to try and prevent dying, uh, from drug overdoses with these kits. anyway, let me know your thoughts on that after the break. i want to ask you a question. do you think we're getting and more getting angrier and more outraged days? apparently outraged these days? apparently i a column today i was reading a column today which that we are an age of which says that we are an age of extremes that extremes and outrage. is that true? are you permanently outraged not? i'll see you in outraged or not? i'll see you in two.
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hi there, michelle dewberry with you still seven pr consultant alex dean alongside me, as is the senior lecturer at queen mary university, richard johnson . martin's been in touch, said michelle amex. raf and i would not fight now for this country.
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he says. i'm a white man and my country hates me and i have to say i have quite a few viewers. uh bringing that response through . rich says, you don't through. rich says, you don't get to burn my house down and then tell me i'm required to defend its ashes with my life. someone else has said a good point, and i agree with this, that if you want me to fight for my country, then first of all, get all of the mps, all of those kind of people up first, and then you can stand behind them. kind of people up first, and tishare»u can stand behind them. kind of people up first, and tishare thatn stand behind them. kind of people up first, and tishare that view.id behind them. kind of people up first, and tishare that view. uh ehind them. kind of people up first, and tishare that view. uh talkingiem. i share that view. uh talking about the drugs, barry says two i share that view. uh talking abthe the drugs, barry says two i share that view. uh talking abthe most'ugs, barry says two i share that view. uh talking abthe most addictivey says two i share that view. uh talking abthe most addictive drugs two i share that view. uh talking abthe most addictive drugs on) of the most addictive drugs on sale are alcohol and cigarettes. and really care and no one really seems to care for them. bob says, i'm a veteran, and if i was asked to fight for my country , i fight for my country, i absolutely would, he says. i'm horrified that so many young men would not. it should, he says. but we've made it an easy world with everything on a plate. so he says, and one of my viewers, gordon, uh, he says, all of this talk about drugs. ultimately drugs are a choice. he says , drugs are a choice. he says, what about personal
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responsibility in this conversation ? do you think that conversation? do you think that do you think addiction is a choice? i mean, okay, granted, it's your choice to take a drug the first time you take it, but do you think addiction is a medical issue or not? anyway i asked or not we are just asked whether or not we are just constantly outraged. donald just emailed in and says i'm outraged all every day. don't all the time. every day. don't even get started on why. and even get me started on why. and i found interesting. this i found this interesting. this column the spectator. column today in the spectator. actually, the of actually, it says the age of outrage has arrived. he talks about things like pro attests. people kind of bring in foreign conflict to this country, etc. are we a nation of just been constant outraged? alex. >> yes, and i thought that example about foreign, um, conflicts being fought out on our streets is a good example. i mean , people on the one hand mean, people on the one hand shouting at the british government about what's been going on in the red sea when the houthis have been blowing hell out of shipping. the out of shipping. now, for the best of ten years. so best part of ten years. so i think that was pretty crazy . i think that was pretty crazy. i also think the abuse that has been visited upon british jews, as if they got anything to do
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with the decisions that israel makes, has been appalling . but makes, has been appalling. but on is also i read that on this is also i read that article and on the lighter side of it, he points out in january , of it, he points out in january, there tends not to be very much news and therefore people in the news and therefore people in the news out looking for stories . news go out looking for stories. point being, used to be in a point being, it used to be in a silly season. go out and silly season. you go out and find a funny story. you try and find a funny story. you try and find something that's amusing. now we are media world. they give us what want. i'm not give us what we want. i'm not blaming media. reward blaming the media. they reward what they go out what we were after. they go out to something that we're to find something that we're outraged that's all the outraged by and that's all the difference world. once difference in the world. i once heard the saying, if bleeds, heard the saying, if it bleeds, it leads. people were talking >> when people were talking about how the media is structured and all the time people get in with and people get in touch with me and say, depressing. the say, it's really depressing. the news depressing , news is really depressing, pressing. can have some pressing. can we have some positive good good positive stories? good good news stories? really stories? and i seek i really kind of look everywhere to find uplifting , positive news uplifting, positive news stories, and they're just barely any of them around. yeah, but i don't think that outrage is something that's new. >> i mean, if you think about the way that the tabloid newspapers have operated for
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decades , they seek out outrage . decades, they seek out outrage. they look for sensationalist stories because as you say, that's what sells. and uh, for people who do follow the news, i guess it becomes a kind of and there's an element of, well , it there's an element of, well, it spices things up and makes it more interesting. you want to read, you want to read on? um, i mean, i remember , um, not that mean, i remember, um, not that long ago , but about 15 years ago long ago, but about 15 years ago when i was at university, i had a friend who was was his nickname was furious. george >> furious. george used to get outraged at the things that , uh, outraged at the things that, uh, particularly the conservatives uh, and lib dems were doing . uh, and lib dems were doing. >> and, you know, i think some people thrive on that . people thrive on that. >> and where's furious, george? >> and where's furious, george? >> now, what became of him? >> now, what became of him? >> uh, is he happy? >> uh, is he happy? >> is he he's he's in a very happy marriage with a little boy and is having a nice time voting tory and hoping for tax cuts because not for good you. because it's not for good you. stress is not for good you.
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that's why i'm asking. so furious. george was so furious. george was living so furiously. wonder what furiously. i always wonder what becomes when you're so becomes of you when you're so angry . he, um. becomes of you when you're so angry. he, um. rob says the world when the world is such a chaotic flux, everyone is outraged and offended about everything all of the time. phil says. everything all of the time. phil says . i'm outraged by the state says. i'm outraged by the state of my country. and he goes on to give me quite a few examples. there's a lot of people saying that they are white men, middle aged white they feel that they are white men, middle agectheyte they feel that they are white men, middle agectheyte completelyy feel that they are white men, middle agectheyte completely kindl that they are white men, middle agectheyte completely kind of that they are completely kind of pushed aside in society . pushed aside in society. >> well, you are, of course, it's an inevitable response because the dawn of real because since the dawn of real civilisation, we have tried never yet succeeded. but in glimpsing distance, we've always tried to say that the most important thing is not the colour of your skin or the sex you're born into. it's the content of your character. and for the first generation, now we're telling children that's wrong. it the most important thing is your, um , sex and your thing is your, um, sex and your colour and you can never escape your, colour and you can never escape your , uh, inherited guilt. you your, uh, inherited guilt. you can never escape the history
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thatis can never escape the history that is piled upon your shoulders. whilst you personally may be blameless for it, and therefore you are going to be condemned forever into these categories, keep categories, we will always keep you separate boxes , and you in separate boxes, and that's we will judge you. it that's how we will judge you. it intersectionally out how intersectionally work out how guilty and how much guilty you are and how much there are victims other there are victims on the other side it. well, it's side of it. well, it's inevitable the the inevitable in the end that the people fall the other people that fall at the other end that spectrum feel rather end of that spectrum feel rather left it? left out. isn't it? >> well, you go. um, the >> well, there you go. um, the tea conversation has you tea conversation has got you guys talking. i'm fascinated by how many you, uh, make your how many of you, uh, make your tea loose these days. how many of you, uh, make your tea can loose these days. how many of you, uh, make your tea can youe these days. how many of you, uh, make your tea can you be these days. how many of you, uh, make your tea can you be bothered?iys. how many of you, uh, make your tea can you be bothered? and how can you be bothered? and they're a bit of a faff. um, anyway, gary says, michelle, these drug addiction are these drug addiction kits are fantastic. works in drug fantastic. he works in drug addiction he says addiction services, and he says he's as he's been giving them out as well users. they well to users. and they absolutely save lives. i've had so many people writing in, by the way, saying, please, can you thank panellists thank your two panellists tonight? enjoyed tonight? they've really enjoyed the you go. the programme. so there you go. i your messenger. consider i am your messenger. consider them told. but for now, look, that's all we've got time for richard and alex. thanks for your importantly. your company. very importantly. thank home. don't go thank you. at home. don't go anywhere, nigel farage is up
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next. but i'll see you tomorrow night. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie from the met office. thursday is going to be another mild day. quite a cloudy one with rain one though, with rain particularly across western areas. that's weather front is approaching throughout tonight from the south and west. it's a warm front so it will bring milder air and ahead of it we do have a ridge of high pressure. so that's things down. so that's settling things down. so that's settling things down. so crisp evening for so a clear and crisp evening for many eastern areas. many northern and eastern areas. we'll see some mist and fog starting develop. low cloud starting to develop. low cloud on well. and it on the hills as well. and it will be a chilly night for many northeastern areas. see northeastern areas. could see a touch by tomorrow touch of frost by tomorrow morning. south morning. however, further south and different story and west quite a different story with cloud arriving and with rain and cloud arriving and temperatures much milder by morning than they will be through this evening . and that through this evening. and that milder, cloudy, gloomy feel will push northwards through the day. so plenty more cloud around through with drizzly
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through tomorrow with drizzly rain going , rain coming and going, particularly western particularly across western areas persisting across the north scotland . more north of scotland. more southeastern areas will stay largely dry, but you couldn't rule out some drizzly rain from time time. but everywhere time to time. but everywhere we'll southerly breeze we'll see this southerly breeze bringing that milder air. so another mild day for the another fairly mild day for the time of year on thursday, some blustery will across blustery rain will sweep across the country on thursday night, perhaps clearing through perhaps clearing just through the first few hours of friday morning in the south and east. but once that clears, but many areas once that clears, we'll a dry and fine day we'll see a dry and fine day with sunshine on the cards with more sunshine on the cards too. however, the north and too. however, in the north and west will be more the west there will be more in the way showers, so plenty way of showers, so plenty of sunshine should sunshine for friday should stay dry weekend , but dry into the weekend, but sunshine will be at a bit of a premium. see you later! >> things are heating >> looks like things are heating up boxt boiler year. sponsors of weather on gb news .
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good evening i >> -- >> good to be back now is sir simon clarke right when he says if rishi sunak stays on as pm and leader of the tory party. but they are headed for electoral catastrophe, we'll also look at the migration advisory committee , the great advisory committee, the great and the good, who are now telling us that anybody that crosses english channel, who crosses the english channel, who has waited six months for an application, should be able to work . we'll have look at new work. we'll have a look at new hampshire, trump scores hampshire, where trump scores another extraordinary victory. yet nikki haley says she's staying in the race. i can't quite out why. and are we quite work out why. and are we seriously considering a return to conscription if hostilities break out with russia, would people really join? would it include women? more questions, i think with that than answers . think with that than answers. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst .

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