today. alive today. >> how was this proven lunatic allowed to kill three innocent people and not get done for murder.7 and what.7 one of these mps is behind a plot to oust rishi sunak.7 i reveal who i also have exclusive and astonishing polling data that's just landed . polling data that's just landed. and what's labour's lead? is it right to ban prayer rooms in schools and much, much more than this . our fat schools and much, much more than this. our fat kids, the schools and much, much more than this . our fat kids, the victim this. our fat kids, the victim of child abuse and should parents be prosecuted and i think our main focus should be on the on those that have been born, born here, educated here, british people should be given social housing before immigrants. what's controversial about that on my panel tonight is gb news star emily carver , is gb news star emily carver, lord bailey and amy nicole turner, and find out which football team looks like their fans have joined the klu klux klan. get ready britain, here we

go. gb news exclusive followed by another gb news exclusive after this . this. >> patrick. thank you and good evening to you. well, as you've been hearing, evening to you. well, as you've been hearing , the mother of been hearing, the mother of murdered teenager barnaby weber says nottingham police have blood on their hands as after her son's killer was sent to a high security psychic hospital rather than given a prison sentence. 32 year old waldo kalakani was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia when he killed university students barnaby weber and grace o'malley. kumar and school caretaker ian coates in june last year. he pleaded not guilty to murder due to his mental condition , but did admit condition, but did admit manslaughter. speaking outside the court, the victim's family

said the triple killer had made a mockery of the system and got away with murder. the failures from the police, the cps, the health service have resulted in the murder of my father and these two innocent students . these two innocent students. >> the nhs mental health trust have to be held accountable for their failures along with the police . all we can do is hope police. all we can do is hope that in due course, some sort of justice will be served. this man has made a mockery of the system and he has got away with murder . and he has got away with murder. >> james coates, son of ian coates, the caretaker who died in that killing spree in nottingham . well, the government nottingham. well, the government today has been defending its record on tackling knife crime in a third crackdown in eight years. years. the home secretary says the new restrictions are aimed at closing what he called aimed at closing what he called a loophole, which allows some types of so—called zombie knives to be kept and sold . and while to be kept and sold. and while labour says the new legislation doesn't go far enough and there needs to be tougher penalties, james cleverly says the government is taking the right

action. i became home secretary. >> i made the immediate decision to go further to put forward this secondary legislation to support what we've already done to make the possession of zombie knives illegal and to close the loophole so i'm very pleased with taking action now. we have seen a reduction in crime. we have a plan to drive it down further. that plan is working . further. that plan is working. we're determined to take these knives off the streets . knives off the streets. >> james cleverly well, in other news today, criminal gangs who try to smuggle items into prisons using drones will face new penalties from today , a new new penalties from today, a new 400 metre no fly zones are now in force around british prisons . in force around british prisons. it means anyone caught trying to fly items like phones , drugs or fly items like phones, drugs or weapons into prisons using drones will pay . a 2500 pound drones will pay. a 2500 pound fine. there'll also be a ten year maximum prison sentence for anyone breaching the restrictions , as a man has been

restrictions, as a man has been sentenced to 13 years in prison for encourage buying and paying for encourage buying and paying for the sexual abuse of young children around the world over a penod children around the world over a period of nine years. matthew bower, from kent, sort out people online, both adults and children, who he then could coerce into sending him explicit content. the 52 year old first denied the crimes, saying he'd been hacked before eventually, he pleaded to guilty to 15 offences and making more than 1700 indecent images of children . in shoplifting offences in england and wales are at the highest level in 20 years. the office for national statistics saying more than 400,000 offences were recorded in the year to september. that's up by nearly a third. downing street says ministers are looking into how to tackle the rising problem . more works needed to tackle obesity among children amid warnings that it increases due to the pandemic could cost more

than £8 million, a new study found. obesity in english children rose six among those at ages four and five, and then again at ages ten and 11. researchers warn that overweight kids will cost the nhs more as they get older , because fatter they get older, because fatter children tend to become obese adults . they also found that adults. they also found that children living in deprived areas of england are twice as likely to be overweight than those from better off backgrounds . that's the news on backgrounds. that's the news on gb news on tv, online, dab+ radio and the tune in app. this is britain's news channel . we is britain's news channel. we start with the gb news exclusive, followed by another gb news exclusive. >> the current plan to oust rishi sunak is this penny mordaunt , the leader of the mordaunt, the leader of the house of commons, will be installed as prime minister with a commitment to an election after just 100 days. apparently labour fear. penny mordaunt more

than they fear mr sunak. labour fear. penny mordaunt more than they fear mr sunak . this is than they fear mr sunak. this is all from our political editor, christopher hope, and it's been called the contract with britain now for the second gb news exclusive, i'm about to reveal astonishing brand new polling data that has just landed. so here we go. starting with westminster voting intention. labour are on 45% with a 25 point lead over the tories in hinckley reform are the third most popular party. now. on 12, then follows the lib dems on 10% and the greens on on 9. let's drill down into those numbers for reform, shall we? 14% said they are likely to vote for richard tice party, which rises to 29% for 2019. conservative voters 60, however, stay said they are unlikely . we also asked they are unlikely. we also asked , would you replace rishi sunak as pm? who would you replace him with? and nigel farage was the most popular choice among a host of big name tories. the gb news

man came in at well, it's not exactly a resounding victory, is it? 8% boris johnson was second with 7, followed closely behind by penny mordaunt. so hey, perhaps miss morden is the perhaps then miss morden is the most realistic candidate to replace after all. but replace the pm after all. but here's a stat that will cause tremors in conservative hq along side. the names i just mentioned were politicians like kemi badenoch, suella braverman and the home secretary james cleverly. crucially, 51% of cleverly. but crucially, 51% of people responded to say none of the above. grey so the public see a complete dearth of talent in the conservative party. apparently i've got a couple more for you now. when asked, would you willingly fight for your country in another world war? just 17% of people said yes 14% said they would if they were forced to. i think technically we all would if we were forced to, but there we go with 30, said that they do anything to avoid it. now this is important as well. after my eye opening interview with britain's strictest headteacher, katharine birbalsingh, people birbalsingh, 38% of people said they to they supported her decision to ban at the michaela

ban all prayer at the michaela school, while 28% oppose it. so labour lead by 25 points. reform came up to 14% in some measures. nigel the most popular person to replace sunak and it's right, apparently to ban prayer rooms and just 17% of people would willingly fight for britain here to shed more light on this. now is the man behind the numbers. it pollster extraordinaire , it is pollster extraordinaire, it's matt goodwin. matt, thank you what's the most you very much. what's the most important for important bit of this data for you, think then. important bit of this data for youwell, think then. important bit of this data for youwell, there'sk then. important bit of this data for youwell, there's lotsen. important bit of this data for youwell, there's lots of things >> well, there's lots of things going on, patrick. we've got a poll that suggests labour are still for an enormous still on course for an enormous majority next election. still on course for an enormous majwe/ next election. still on course for an enormous majwe can next election. still on course for an enormous majwe can also |ext election. still on course for an enormous majwe can also see election. still on course for an enormous majwe can also see rishion. still on course for an enormous majwe can also see rishi sunak but we can also see rishi sunak is really squeezed by this is being really squeezed by this reform vote . just to give you reform vote. just to give you a perspective of what's happening beneath the surface 1 in 4 brexit voters, 1 in 4 , 2019 brexit voters, 1 in 4, 2019 conservatives saying they're going to reform . and this is a going to reform. and this is a nail in the coffin for the conservative party's prospects. >> the other thing i think is quite interesting about this poll know, look at that poll is, you know, look at that issue of conscription. been issue of conscription. it's been dominating social media this

week. of people saying, you week. lots of people saying, you know, of brits out there, know, lots of brits out there, not if they'd fight for not sure if they'd fight for their country, 17% saying they would for would willingly fight for britain if there was another world war. that's not even 1 in 5. i think that's going to cause i think a of reflection out i think a lot of reflection out there in the country. what's going on? why don't people want to their country to fight for their country anymore? those are the things that me. yeah that stand out to me. yeah >> absolutely. let's just >> no, absolutely. let's just drill desire, lack drill down on that desire, lack of britain. what do of to fight for britain. what do you think is behind that? some people we've willingly, people saying we've willingly, blindly a divided blindly created a divided society no sense of society with no sense of national pride in a national unity or pride in a way? >> well, i think if i was in china or russia, i'd be pretty happy with how things are going in the west because we've imported you us imported these. you know, us style narratives that are essentially style narratives that are ess

i think, stands out for me. interestingly, when you look again surface, 18 to again beneath the surface, 18 to 24 year olds, this is what worries me. that number falls even further. about 14% say even further. only about 14% say they'd willingly fight for their country if there another country if there was another world war. and of course, you know, is something that know, this is something that i think we're seeing in questions about monarchy and questions about the monarchy and questions about our history. questions about, support about, you know, do you support the israelis? do you support the palestinians? can see among palestinians? we can see among the 18 to 24 seconds a very different mindset from that which dominates the xers and which dominates the gen xers and the baby boomers. there's something something in something there's something in the now. i think it the water now. i think when it comes to these young brits, they just world in just simply see the world in a very different way from the rest of us. >> it's incredibly revealing and concerning, actually have >> it's incredibly revealing and c(little|ing, actually have >> it's incredibly revealing and c(little look actually have >> it's incredibly revealing and c(little look nownlly have >> it's incredibly revealing and c(little look now at have >> it's incredibly revealing and c(little look now at one have >> it's incredibly revealing and c(little look now at one of have >> it's incredibly revealing and c(little look now at one of thee a little look now at one of the other big standout ones for me from that, which is if rishi sunak was to be replaced, who would you want to replace him with? farage the with? so nigel farage topped the list i saw that list and initially i saw that and thought, i'll be and i thought, i'll be interested to see, oh, it's 8, is okay. it's is it? right? okay. well, it's not dorsement not exactly a ringing dorsement 51% of people said out of quite an extensive of names who

an extensive list of names who presented them therewith, they didn't any them. didn't fancy any of them. what does really mean? does all of this really mean? >> yeah. so i think what you've got here is just basically a brand. in british politics, got here is just basically a b|conservative british politics, got here is just basically a b|conservative british that tics, got here is just basically a b|conservative british that is s, a conservative brand that is complete are lots complete toxic. there are lots of voters. now that moment of voters. now that the moment i mention conservative and mention conservative party and focus polling, they just focus groups polling, they just say, what, out of say, you know what, i'm out of this conversation. not interested. not interested. 14 years, not interested. 14 years, not interested . and i think, you interested. and i think, you know, rishi sunak presented himself as a change candidate, somebody that was to be somebody that was going to be fundamentally different from bofis fundamentally different from boris johnson liz truss. if boris johnson and liz truss. if you look at the polling figures, he's clearly failed to cut through in that respect. um, 51% saying i'm not interested, even if the party's under penny mordaunt, even if it's under bofis mordaunt, even if it's under boris johnson, even if it's bofisjohnson,evenififs under boris johnson, even if it's under nigel farage. i'm just not interested . so i think what interested. so i think what we've got here is an enormous hole in british politics. and also, by the way , an enormous also, by the way, an enormous opportunity. i mean, if i was nigel farage, i'd be thinking, why would i go to a brand that's utterly toxic and problematic? why go into the why wouldn't i go into the reform party? why wouldn't i try

and take you know, as we and take that? you know, as we saw the polling we've saw in the polling that we've just you know, the just given to you, you know, the reform party is on 12, but reform party is now on 12, but we know that up to 16% of brits would consider voting for it. so if i nigel farage, i'd be if i was nigel farage, i'd be saying, chances with saying, well, my chances with reform than with the reform are better than with the conservative so why conservative party so why wouldn't i just go do that? wouldn't i just go and do that? >> yeah, that is really interesting because i was with nigel at the conservative party conference kind of really nigel at the conservative party csawrence kind of really nigel at the conservative party csaw it.ce kind of really i saw it. >> i remember we kind of farmed up bit of a really, up a little bit of a really, really about, oh, is he going to join tories and rishi sunak join the tories and rishi sunak even comments on it. >> minister >> the prime minister and you know, it looks know, obviously it looks as though, according to your data that he better just though, according to your data that he betterjust kind of that he is better just kind of going reform. going it alone on reform. >> just, just on that >> well, just, just on that briefly because briefly patrick because it's important. back to the important. yeah go back to the early 1990s in canada. there was a the party a reform party, the reform party of canada, that replaced the conservatives and conservatives in 1993. and i think i was nigel farage, i'd think if i was nigel farage, i'd be at these numbers and be looking at these numbers and thinking , we be looking at these numbers and thinking, we are seven points behind conservatives what behind the conservatives what happens if before the next general election reform are polling above the conservatives?

not impossible . the brexit party not impossible. the brexit party almost did it in 2019. if that happens, all bets are off. then you're looking at what i would call a full blown realignment of the right in british politics. it's happened on two two occasions before canada in the 1990s. the labour party replacing the liberals in the early 20th century. it could happen again. >> matt goodwin, thank you very, very much. as ever, always a great way to start that show with that exclusive polling data. it did also appear, data. and it did also appear, didn't it, in that polling data that it it reiterated another gb news exclusive that we brought to is that there to you, which is that there appears to plot to appears to be some plot to replace rishi sunak with penny mordaunt, the leader of the house of commons. now she's reportedly at the centre of this plot . well, remarkably, she was plot. well, remarkably, she was full of praise for the prime minister today. >> he has shown global leadership on many challenges facing this country. he's a wonderful dad, he gives quietly to charities. he runs for his local hospice. he doesn't just

get britain , he represents the get britain, he represents the best of great britain, the greatest things we have to offer and what they mean to the world and what they mean to the world and our values. hard work, enterprise, taking personal responsibility for yourself and helping others. he is in no way confused about where his duty lies. as okay, there we go. >> so the polling data that matthew goodwin just provided to us here exclusively at gb news said that realistically, penny morton of the serving conservatives at the moment is actually the number one choice for voters to replace rishi sunak. are you buying all of this, though? let's get the thoughts on my panellist, gb news presenter and contributor emily carver got conservative peer lord bailey and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. heck of a lot to get stuck into with this polling data here at the moment. what stood out for you the most, do you think there, emily? what was what was big for you? >> well, it was quite interesting goodwin interesting what matt goodwin had about reform

had to say there about reform the reform potentially the reform party potentially overtaking the overtaking and replacing the conservative party it's quite hard to believe after the success of the conservative party had over the years. party has had over the years. but anything is possible. it does seem that the conservative brand is simply just viewed as toxic . toxic. >> um, so what are you hearing behind the scenes then? this idea that penny mordaunt might be parachuted in. is there any truth to that? do you think i certainly haven't heard anything about that. and if it would be the most ridiculous thing in the world. >> you've just heard emily say that is struggling and that the brand is struggling and reform the march and reform are on the march and could take over swapping prime minister again just minister again would just confirm idea that, confirm everybody's idea that, you pandemonium. you know, this is pandemonium. let's haven't heard let's move on. i haven't heard it. think it's true. but it. i don't think it's true. but i think the most important thing it. i don't think it's true. but i trconservatives important thing it. i don't think it's true. but i trconservatives impoisint thing it. i don't think it's true. but i trconservatives impois to thing it. i don't think it's true. but i trconservatives impois to look] for conservatives now is to look at the demographic the at the demographic change in the country. we should be worried about of reform. i about the strength of reform. i want to be clear. i think the polls will massively polls will close massively when people start look at keir people start to look at keir starmer, think, hold on starmer, i think, hold on a second. bit empty second. it's a little bit empty here. reform could do here. but what reform could do is hollow conservatives

is hollow out. the conservatives enough to give labour a big win. those would suggest those figures would suggest a 400 seat majority for labour that would be, i think the last time that happened was in the 50s, think i think rishi now 50s, i think i think rishi now needs to look and he needs to be more conservative needs more conservative and he needs to it quickly. to do it quickly. >> okay. right. now, amy, >> okay. all right. now, amy, well, there's point of well, there's no point of skirting around issue. skirting around the issue. labour points it's labour 25 points ahead. it's been for quite been about that for quite a while now. and your thoughts on that? if i may, your that? and also, if i may, your thoughts on this idea that only 17% of brits and when you take that to the 18 to 20 fours, only 41% of brits would actively fight for britain at a time of war. >> does that really surprise you?i >> does that really surprise you? i mean, i wouldn't, i wouldn't, would you? emily would you sean i wouldn't , i would. you sean i wouldn't, i would. >> my family's here if it came down to it. >> the question was if it came down to it. >> well, if there was a war or otherwise, you'd just find yourself. >> would we fight to defend it? >> would we fight to defend it? >> i don't think that's surprising. it was the same case in one. people did not in world war one. people did not want to sign up. what we'll do

was slightly different, but i think it's reflective of was slightly different, but i thiane s reflective of was slightly different, but i thiane feel reflective of was slightly different, but i thiane feel aboutective of was slightly different, but i thiane feel about ourle of was slightly different, but i thiane feel about our country at how we feel about our country at the moment. would you might feel about government? you about our government? would you find hope find i don't know, i would hope i to. have got i wouldn't have to. i have got a kid that i have to look after. so, you know, he probably wouldn't be that well off if i suddenly went to war. and 30% of people faith in our people have faith in our government low, it government that is so low, so it doesn't surprise that people doesn't surprise me that people aren't like, super aren't feeling like, super enthusiastic about. >> difference. >> but there's a difference. >> but there's a difference. >> let's be clear, >> if someone let's be clear, i'm conservative peer. if i'm a conservative peer. if someone to would i go someone said to me, would i go to for the conservative to war for the conservative party, think about party, i'd have to think about that. but we're talking about the country. there's a difference between the country and the government. difference between the country and thelet'szrnment. difference between the country and thelet's not|ent.ahead of >> but let's not get ahead of ourselves. >> but the point, the point i want the point want want to make, the point i want to make. our young people have been educated the been educated to hate the country many different country in many different ways. nonsense. go nonsense. it's true. you go on, 90, nonsense. it's true. you go on, go, tiktok and the go, go on tiktok and see the amount of bile talked about the western world in general and britain in particular. our children that children have been educated that our regularly our children are regularly taughtin our children are regularly taught in school, sometimes to hate the history of the country. so don't like the so of course they don't like the

history the country be history of the country or be aware hatred . aware of the hatred. >> the only hope i guess, >> the only hope here, i guess, is all theoretical is that this is all theoretical and that when it actually came down and when there was down to it, and when there was actually if and when there is a existential threat to our existence actually people existence that actually people would willing to go out and would be willing to go out and fight. i hope as a woman, i wouldn't have to do it. >> you could. >> thank you. you could. >> thank you. you could. >> you can only take their word for look. would people for it. look look. would people fight? knows? but when fight? who knows? but when they're question that they're asked to question that answer they feel . answer reflects how they feel. and that's that's what makes it important. again, i, i watch important. and again, i, i watch things on, on, on twitter and things on on, on, on twitter and all the rest of it. and think people are denigrating the country. >> you want to say something ? >> you want to say something? >> you want to say something? >> me absolutely no >> it gives me absolutely no pleasure to see the conservatives polling at this. what like an historic low what looks like an historic low when so many missed opportunities . but do you not opportunities. but do you not think it's easy for the reform party to say, oh, we'll do this, we'll do that. we'll do this, we'll do that. we'll do this, we'll do that. a lot of it seems to be pie in the sky, so it gives me no pleasure. but is

this hard? let us down. >> reforms plan to then push the conservative policies further to the and then pull the the right, and then pull out the ballot at last minute. ballot at the last minute. >> the right. with respect, you say further to the right, we've got highest tax burden since got the highest tax burden since world going world war two. we're going to allow to work. allow illegal migrants to work. we've got record levels of net migration and record levels of illegal immigration. they're not on the right. they they talk about on right wing. about being on the right wing. but who's done but then everyone who's done that gone. think that has gone. now, i think you've just answered the question then. >> so if reform can put the pressure those numbers can put the on the conservative the pressure on the conservative party to relate. >> i get what you mean, but i think a little too late, as think it's a little too late, as evidenced by was and evidenced by when i was out and about on in southwark, about earlier on in southwark, which i'm looking forward to to talking you wonderful people about, about about, and which is about whether brits should come whether or not brits should come first it comes social first when it comes to social housing. before that, coming housing. but before that, coming up says up after a top un official says the needs to take the uk needs to take responsibility for illegal migrants flying them migrants instead of flying them to let's build a wall or to rwanda. let's build a wall or stop mean. >> you mean. >> you mean. >> exactly. those are fake responses don't address responses that don't address even arrivals. even the problem of arrivals. >> does yield a problem, mate. you're so is there

you're the problem. so is there literally to the small literally no end to the small boats conservative mp literally no end to the small boatpps conservative mp literally no end to the small boatpps to conservative mp literally no end to the small boatpps to the nservative mp literally no end to the small boatpps to the hometive mp literally no end to the small boatpps to the home secretary and pps to the home secretary james sunderland. he joins me live , very shortly. but up live very, very shortly. but up next, it's revealed, almost a next, as it's revealed, almost a quarter of english children are now obese at the end of primary school are fat kids victims of child abuse? former shameless actress tina malone is disgusted by that notion , and she goes by that notion, and she goes head to head with the green goddess diana moran. this is patrick christys tonight. it's not to be

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news. >> this is patrick christys tonight we're only on gb news and coming up, tory mp james sunderland . a home office sunderland. a home office insider hits back at the un for attacking the rwanda plan. but first it's time for our head to head. first it's time for our head to head . now a shocking new study head. now a shocking new study has found that almost a quarter of kids aged ten and 11, in england are obese, which nhs england are obese, which nhs england says is a ticking time bomb, which i mean, it obviously is. so if nothing changes, childhood obesity will cost society £8.7 billion in lifelong health care costs . but of health care costs. but of course, the big concern is the impact it has on the individual. so the child becomes more at risk to illnesses like type 2 diabetes, to cancer, to mental health issues . there's a lot on health issues. there's a lot on the line here, so why aren't parents doing more? you know, when you see a child that is absolutely massive , where is he

absolutely massive, where is he or she getting that food from? who's giving it to them? more often than not, it's the parents, isn't it? tonight i'm asking our severely overweight kids, the victims of child abuse . let me know your thoughts. email me gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. while you're there, go and take part in our poll. i'll bring you the results very shortly. now results very shortly. but now we've joined by none other we've been joined by none other than shameless than the former shameless actress tina malone and the green goddess diana moran. both of you. thank you very much. great to have you on the show. tina i will start with you. do you think it's child abuse when you think it's child abuse when you really, really you see really, really, really overweight kids aged about 10 or 11? >> i think it's obscene to say that about a child and about the parents of a child. we live in, in critical times , things have in critical times, things have got worse over the last ten, 20 years. people mostly in poverty and deprivation, tend to have the larger children . and if you the larger children. and if you look at something like , for look at something like, for example, this for a chocolate compared to this strawberry,

compared to this strawberry, compare the price of the most expensive item is the strawberry. so where are the incentives as management of health? most people eat, and i know being a fat paid for 18 years, most people overeat and i was morbidly and clinically oven was morbidly and clinically over, over weight obese, morbidly obese . and i'd lost 12 morbidly obese. and i'd lost 12 stone £4. obviously i used a tool. i used to get gastric band. but the thing is, you cannot put people parents in that category. people are impoverished in deprivation . i impoverished in deprivation. i mean, how much more are we going to throw away cooking classes? >> i'll come to encourage them. i'll encourage them to spend less in in takeaways and more on fresh fruit. >> but then again, give them better wages . better wages. >> all right, tina, i'm going to come back to you. we've got time to come back to you, diana. i'll bnng to come back to you, diana. i'll bring you in now at the green goddess. where are you on this then? you know there a school

then? you know there is a school of that does say that of thought that does say that when really young children are morbidly obese, that the morbidly obese, that that is the fault parents. morbidly obese, that that is the fau well, parents. morbidly obese, that that is the fau well, i parents. morbidly obese, that that is the fau well, i doarents. morbidly obese, that that is the fau well, i do think that the >> well, i do think that the parents have got an awful lot to answer for. mean, let's be answer for. i mean, let's be careful here. cautious. careful here. let's be cautious. >> there is , of course, >> there is, of course, a genetic genetic inheritance . genetic genetic inheritance. there could be hormonal reasons . there could be hormonal reasons. and they could, of course, be on medication options. but apart from all that, my observation is that children, these days aren't being as active as children used to be. it's not being encouraged in schools as much as it was all the tt that we did regularly. every day, and then all those after school activities which was competition and also keeping a child's body strong and safe. we haven't got that incentive anymore . and that worries me anymore. and that worries me that the parents aren't encouraging their children to do that. instead they're allowing their children to either go up to their bedrooms in the corner of a room stuck in front of

their mobile phone all the time, and then not moving their bodies and then not moving their bodies and i worry for the future because this is going to cost this country one hell of a lot of money. and those children aren't going to be fit enough to work. okay. that's what really ? work. okay. that's what really? >> well, that's really sad. >> well, that's really sad. >> i mean, these these are these are the benefits getters of the future, tina, aren't they? and i understand what you were saying about price of food. right. about the price of food. right. and that is an argument that's wheeled it doesn't cost wheeled out. but it doesn't cost anything a kid a few anything to make a kid a few simple does it to cook. simple does it is to cook. >> yeah, but the thing is, right to go out and get meat and two veg like we did post war. i cook every night right now. i know my daughter eat peppers. my daughter will eat peppers. my ten will eat peppers, ten year old will eat peppers, olives, fruit every olives, fresh fruit every day. but a lot people patrick but a lot of people patrick can't afford to do that. i've got a friend who works full time with two babies and a teenager. she she . she she. >> everything tina do , it's free. >> now, listen, what is. it's

all. it's an accumulation of everything. we need people to be on the right track mentally and to enable them to focus on education and cooking and time. you got to remember processed foods and takeaways or quick , foods and takeaways or quick, snappy. and we live in a society that says, get everything now instead of sitting at home at the table having dinner together. and it's like diane said, um, you know , this active said, um, you know, this active thing i'm active. therefore my child is what's in the cats, in the kittens . you can also be the kittens. you can also be predisposed , like she said, predisposed, like she said, rightly so , to be genetically rightly so, to be genetically overweight . rightly so, to be genetically overweight. but rightly so, to be genetically overweight . but what we need to overweight. but what we need to do is help people, not abuse them or call them out. look diana. >> diana, do you think it's lazy for some parents to just throw their hands up and go, i'm overworked. these turkey twizzlers cost £1, but a stir fry cost £2. and all of this stuff . i fry cost £2. and all of this stuff. i mean, is that fry cost £2. and all of this stuff . i mean, is that lazy? stuff. i mean, is that lazy? actually? also, as well? can i ask, do you think it's selfish

for the future of society because they are going to be essentially spawning children that to to that are going to have to get a load of cow on the nhs might not be work. i mean, is be able to work. i mean, is there is there any issues there with the parenting for you? diana, i that parents diana, i think that the parents have to answer and they've have got to answer and they've got to they they're good got to if they if they're good parents, want for parents, they want the best for their children. >> don't they? they want to see their children and if their children achieve. and if their children achieve. and if their are obese . their children are obese. >> excuse me. >> excuse me. >> you've had your time. excuse me for saying so, but surely the parents should therefore seek medical help to help those children get more advice on food activity and those parents have got possibly lack of cookery skills. perhaps it's time they went back to school themselves . went back to school themselves. >> okay, but diane , diane, the >> okay, but diane, diane, the thing is that isn't available. the nhs is in a crisis. have you tried getting counselling or any education or information as a working single parent with a lot

of these people are right. they haven't not. it's not just my time. i'm wanting to be. nobody goes up and says, i want to be a bad parent. do we have to teach everyone everything, though? >> you know, diana, diana , what >> you know, diana, diana, what do you make of that? >> that the idea that we need to help people more to teach them, arguably some basics, is that a bit helpless, that what bit helpless, or is that what a kind society would do? >> that's what a kind society will should do . surely if will do and should do. surely if we have if we have children, our first responsibility is to those children to get as much advice as we can do from wherever we can do certainly start with the medical profession . medical profession. >> okay, look, both of you. >> okay, look, both of you. >> thank you. agree? totally agree. >> diane, we've managed to we've managed to come full circle here. >> we've gone from rip roaring head to head to a point of agreement. and i'd love to see it.thank agreement. and i'd love to see it. thank you very, very much, both of as former shameless both of you. as former shameless actress tina malone there and green goddess moran. so green goddess diana moran. so look you agree with? green goddess diana moran. so look almost/ou agree with?

green goddess diana moran. so look almost au agree with? green goddess diana moran. so look almost a quarter with? green goddess diana moran. so look almost a quarter ofth? okay, almost a quarter of engush okay, almost a quarter of english children obese english children are now obese at the end of primary school. are fat kids victim of child are fat kids a victim of child abuse? carl on access parent need to take more notice and control children. nicki control of their children. nicki also no , no. they are also says no, no. they are victims food production victims of food production companies which make hyper processed , addictive rubbish processed, addictive rubbish that's cheaper to buy than meat, fruit veg. darren says fruit and veg. darren says overweight kids wrapped overweight kids are wrapped in cotton wool and assured that it's not their fault that they constantly eat bad food . so constantly eat bad food. so a range of views there. your verdict is now in six. 80% of you agree that fat kids are victims of child abuse, 40% of you say they are not, or where is the natural extension there? then do we then prosecute parents for having more obese children? is that where this ends? but look. hey, coming up with a history of forced hospital admissions and a warrant out for his arrest, why was nottingham triple killer valda o'callaghan let loose on our streets ? the victims our streets? the victims families simply can't understand it. >> you have blood on your hands.

if you had just done your jobs properly, there's a very good chance. my beautiful boy would be alive today . be alive today. >> absolutely horrendous. former prisons minister ann widdecombe joins me to give her unrivalled insight into that tragic case. next. but first, the president of the echr claims the rwanda plan is unlawful while a top un official slams the government's stop the boats policy as a fake response. so is mass migration something brits simply now have to accept? i would argue definitely not. ps to the home secretary, james sunderland mp joins me live next as britain's borders continue to take a battering by foreigners . this is battering by foreigners. this is patrick christys tonight and it's only

isabel monday to thursdays from 6:00 till 930. >> this is patrick christys tonight . i'm >> this is patrick christys tonight. i'm only on gb news. no nonsense. and widdicombe is waiting in the wings. but first we tackle the migrant crisis with parliamentary private secretary to the home secretary, james sunderland mp and the prime minister suffered a double blow today. so first the president of the echr claim that the government's rwanda plan is unlawful. then the un's high commissioner for refugees , commissioner for refugees, filippo grandi, also stuck his boot into our stop the boats policy, accusing the uk of abdicating their responsibilities. so here's mr grandi speaking to the bbc earlier today. >> let's build a wall or stop the boats. you mean. >> exactly. those are for fake

responses that don't address even the problem of arrivals . even the problem of arrivals. yeah, it is true that there is pressure from electorates, but that pressure is largely induced by politicians that are fuelling it and manipulating it. often through a whole set of fake to news gain votes. oh my gosh, listening to that, it's no surprise that former home secretary suella braverman was practically begging the un, begging that guy to change the definition of what a refugee is in washington last year, where individuals are being persecuted i >> -- >> it is right that we offer sanctuary , but we will not be sanctuary, but we will not be able to sustain an asylum system if, in effect, simply being gay or a woman or fearful of discrimination in your country of origin is sufficient to qualify for protection , then it qualify for protection, then it is seriously worth remembering.

>> in light of that chump's comments. okay, that suella braverman stood there and said to the world, unless we change what the definition of a refugee is simply saying that you're gay or being a woman, or fearing any kind of persecution, or coming frankly from a poorer country to a wealthier country , is a wealthier country, is basically all that you need to qualify as a refugee. that's what needs to be changed. and alas, here we are . mr alas, here we are. mr sunderland, welcome to the show. britain's borders continue to be breached. the un are basically telling us to get on with it. what do you make of what that guy said? i mean he's the problem isn't he? do we just have to accept record levels of illegal immigration now? >> complete nonsense. >> no. it's complete nonsense. i mean, points for you. first mean, two points for you. first of all, firstly, rwanda currently september last currently as of september last yean currently as of september last year, had 130,000 refugees, displaced personnel there. so it's clearly good enough for the un. it's good enough for us. it's a great country. i have been there the second thing, of

course, is the fact that this nofion course, is the fact that this notion that the uk is somehow responsible for the world's migrants absolutely tosh. migrants is absolutely tosh. um, we have a problem right now with small boats coming across. we've got people , got a problem with people, mainly migrants. are not mainly migrants. these are not asylum seekers. they're not refugees. mainly refugees. they're mainly economic coming to the economic migrants coming to the uk better life. who would uk for a better life. who would blame them? point is this blame them? but my point is this you can't absorb the numbers that we're at moment. that we're seeing at the moment. and absolutely that and it's absolutely right that the british government is focussed on stopping the boats. >> was saying now >> what filippo was saying now is you oh , look, is that, you know, oh, look, this is all just political pressure . nothing's actually, pressure. nothing's actually, you , being done about this you know, being done about this and should we do anything and nor should we do anything about braverman stood about it. suella braverman stood up and made the point that unless we change law and the unless we change the law and the definition of what it meant to be a refugee, frankly pretty much anyone from anywhere can move anywhere else. and there's very little we can do about it. the nations take the the united nations take the polar opposite view to that . i polar opposite view to that. i mean, as long as they've got any say in this matter, we're knackered, aren't we? >> well, the united nations , of >> well, the united nations, of course, upon countries

course, depends upon countries like uk taking their fair like the uk taking their fair share of displaced persons. but that's not necessarily what should be happening . so for should be happening. so for example, there are known to be millions of people on the move right across africa , across right now across africa, across the rest of the world. and we are significant problem are seeing a significant problem in . so what's what's in europe. so what's what's interesting is that european countries within the european union are looking right now at the uk, at what the uk is doing in law and trying to copy it, and we are seeing a shift right across europe towards right wing governments, because the problem has to be dealt with. >> so the fact is that the response to what's going on at the border in america, the southern border in america, which absolutely which is by the way, absolutely insane , the level of illegal insane, the level of illegal immigration that they've got over response to over there. the response to unbelievable of illegal unbelievable volumes of illegal immigration right through europe and into britain from the united nations. their response to that, as far as i can tell, is to now more or less openly say that they don't believe in borders. is the un fit for purpose ? is the un fit for purpose? >> uh, in that respect? no, not

at all. um, but but borders have to matter. uh borders have to be maintained. we've got to maintained. we've got to maintain security of our borders . we've got no idea who these people are coming across. and it's absolutely right that in 2019, part of brexit 2019, as part of the brexit decision, we undertook to secure our borders. that is absolutely what the conservative government is going to do. look at labour without getting too political. labour have voted against every single measure to kerb illegal migration, every single one. labour wants open borders, fact that if keir starmer has his way, we'll go back into the european union agreement whereby we'd be legally obliged to take over 100,000 migrants every yean over 100,000 migrants every year, it can't happen. it must not happen. we have undertaken to secure our borders , to stop to secure our borders, to stop the small boats. that is exactly what the prime minister is going to do. look keir starmer obviously will absolutely , obviously will absolutely, categorically he wants categorically deny that he wants open borders. >> the labour party have denied that numerous occasions. >> the labour party have denied that wonder|erous occasions. >> the labour party have denied that wonder|erthere's asions. >> the labour party have denied that wonder|erthere's asi

nations which essentially nations there, which essentially i think sees itself in i think sees itself wrongly in my the charitable arm my view, as the charitable arm to world. the idea that the to the world. the idea that the good thing to do for the sake of charity, reinforced, by the way, i by the archbishop i think by the archbishop of canterbury, welby, canterbury, justin welby, reinforced we're seeing canterbury, justin welby, reithe ced we're seeing canterbury, justin welby, reitheced reinforcede seeing canterbury, justin welby, reitheced reinforced byaeing canterbury, justin welby, reithe ced reinforced by a ing at the echr, reinforced by a huge number of different aid groups and so—called worthy charities , is that people should charities, is that people should just be allowed to travel legally or illegally anywhere they like around the world, you know? do we have a problem behind the scenes here a as behind the scenes here a bit as well, some of these well, with some of these charities, some of these charities, with some of these so—called organisations, as . so—called aid organisations, as. >> yeah, i mean, the simple answer is yes. i mean, it cannot be the case that the uk is responsible for the world's migrants. no western country can do that. um the, the pressure on services at the moment is already acute . the very same already acute. the very same people that phoned me and say, oh, we must have open borders and people that say they can't get an appointment at a surgery. i don't want demonise the i don't want to demonise the problem, but point is that problem, but my point is that actually we cannot absorb the numbers that are currently on the sympathy

the move. i have every sympathy with people wanting a better life. served myself for 26 life. i've served myself for 26 years the army. i've been to years in the army. i've been to many, many countries across the world that really aren't fit for purpose. what we have in the uk is fantastic. we've is absolutely fantastic. we've got yes have, but got problems. yes we have, but actually brilliant . actually the offer is brilliant. but the point i'm making is that it across it cannot be beholden across western countries to absorb the numbers that how look, how does this out, how does this pan this pan out, how does this pan out you personally now then. out for you personally now then. >> because you're >> right. because you're saying all the right things to a lot of our and listeners our viewers and our listeners here. respect, james, here. but with respect, james, we've just played a clip of a former home secretary there who stood said that i stood up and said things that i think agree with, right, think you agree with, right, that are correct. we have a current home secretary who seems a reluctant to a lot more reluctant to do things get us of the things like get us out of the echr called the echr has support called the rwanda batshit. i mean, he rwanda plan batshit. i mean, he denies you know, if denies that. but, you know, if supposedly said you supposedly has said that, you know, you work under that know, how do you work under that bloke james cleverly? now, if he's not the right things he's not doing the right things or saying what's or saying saying what's necessary, established necessary, we've established that it's necessary to do certain things. it doesn't look like that. like he wants to do that. >> work for both suella and

>> i work for both suella and for james. i was there and i am forjames. i was there and i am james now. different people, different styles. i mean, neither are wrong in what they say, but of course the approach is different. and what i would say at the moment is that the position, the british government has not a reflection of has taken is not a reflection of suella braverman, or it's not a reflection of james cleverly, it's a reflection of what the prime minister is able do. prime minister is able to do. and by that is this and what i mean by that is this where he's put the marker in the sandis where he's put the marker in the sand is absolutely this where he's put the marker in the sawhat absolutely this where he's put the marker in the sawhat the olutely this where he's put the marker in the sawhat the rwandan this where he's put the marker in the sawhat the rwandan government is what the rwandan government will tolerate at the moment. we've the right we've gone as far to the right as we can. the other thing is the rwanda bill that's just gone through house of commons is through the house of commons is the leaning the most right leaning draconian. if that's the right word, bold, ambition, word, fierce, bold, ambition, ambitious legislation in this field ever. it disapply section one, two, three, five and so on of the human rights act. but what the prime minister is not going to do right now is, is effectively fail the centrists and the left wing of the party by leaving the european court of human rights. and that's the right thing to do.

>> all right, look, james, thank you very much for your time this evening. a pleasure. it's evening. always a pleasure. it's james mp there. james sunderland mp there. i know you will agree know plenty of you will agree with that. i know plenty of you will with it. get your will not agree with it. get your views coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. as gbviews@gbnews.com. coming up as charities government charities and even government insiders the new insiders attack the tories new social housing policy, why is there controversial social housing policy, why is there promisingontroversial social housing policy, why is there promising britishrsial social housing policy, why is there promising british homes about promising british homes for british workers? think about promising british homes for justsh workers? think about promising british homes for just common s? think about promising british homes for just common s? thiisn't it's just common sense, isn't it? stuck into that at it? i'll get stuck into that at ten, but next, as it's revealed that there a history of that there was a history of forced admissions, forced hospital admissions, a warrant arrest, does warrant out for his arrest, does the of the nottingham the case of the nottingham triple waldo kalakani, triple killer waldo kalakani, exposed serious failings in our police force and widikum joins me now. former prisons minister. she'll be live in just a tick.

gb news. this is patrick christys tonight. only on gb news now the nottingham triple killer waldo carl heneghan has been sentenced to be detained indefinitely. a high security hospital after

admitting the manslaughter of two university students , two university students, o'malley kumar and barnaby webber , and school caretaker ian webber, and school caretaker ian coates , in june last year. new coates, in june last year. new cctv footage released today shows barnaby and grace walking home after a night out before they were brutally attacked and killed shortly afterwards . he killed shortly afterwards. he went on to stab his third victim, ian coates. now reacting to the sentencing today, the victim's family slammed the police and the crown prosecution service. we can watch and listen how. >> now. >> true justice has not been served today we as a devastated family have been let down by multiple agency failings and ineffectiveness to the assistant chief constable , rob griffin. chief constable, rob griffin. you have blood on your hands if you had just done your jobs properly , there's a very good properly, there's a very good chance my beautiful boy would be alive today . alive today. >> and they raised questions as to why kalakani wasn't stopped earlier, given that he was arrested twice , sectioned and arrested twice, sectioned and hospitalised in 2020. the

following year, he was sectioned again and in september 2022, a warrant was issued for his arrest that warrant was still outstanding when he went on his fatal killing spree . the victims fatal killing spree. the victims families were also highly critical of the crown prosecution service for bringing manslaughter charges instead of murder , citing the killer's murder, citing the killer's premeditated planning, his collection of lethal weapons , collection of lethal weapons, and the brutality of the attacks as more than enough evidence for murder charges . i'm joined now murder charges. i'm joined now by former prisons minister anne whitaker and have the victims been failed here? how on earth was this guy allowed to kill? kill kill again and not be found guilty of murder ? guilty of murder? >> well, of course they've been let down. they've been let down very badly. but although i very rarely have anything good to say about the cps , uh, you know, it about the cps, uh, you know, it is not their fault. uh, they've got a paranoid schizophrenic that's what this man is. paranoid schizophrenic. now, to be charged with murder, you've got to have what is called mens rea. that is, you've got to know

what you're doing at the time. you've got to be mentally competent. if they had charged him chances are him with murder, the chances are quite high that he would have been, he he would have been been, um. he he would have been found guilty , either by the found not guilty, either by the jury found not guilty, either by the jury or on appeal. found not guilty, either by the jury or on appeal . they were jury or on appeal. they were right to go for manslaughter. because if you get because you can if you get a conviction for manslaughter as has been done, keep that person behind bars , in this case, in behind bars, in this case, in a secure mental hospital for life. so you can do that . they were so you can do that. they were right to do that. i don't often stand up for the cps, but on this case i do. but they've been massively failed. the victims , massively failed. the victims, uh, by the mental health services . i uh, by the mental health services. i mean, we all uh, by the mental health services . i mean, we all know services. i mean, we all know that if you have a paranoid schizophrenic who takes their medicine, they can be managed perfectly, easily. all is well if they don't take their medicine. they have psychotic episodes . and when they have episodes. and when they have psychotic episodes, what may happenis psychotic episodes, what may happen is beyond imagination . happen is beyond imagination. and in this case, that is exactly what did happen. now he should have been detained and he

should have been detained and he should not have been released. and i do not know what conferences took place. doubtless we shall find out. i do not know what happened , but do not know what happened, but whatever happened, i can't help. >> but i can't help but wonder how, when we're dealing with somebody here who's been arrested sectioned, arrested twice, sectioned, hospitalised, a following year, sectioned again . a warrant sectioned again. a warrant out for arrest. i just can't for his arrest. i just can't help but wonder whether or not it's convenient for the it's very convenient for the police and all the services involved let's do him involved to say, let's do him for daughter, the for man's daughter, because the murder and then potential murder charge and then potential conviction sounds loads worse, and it makes us more culpable . and it makes us more culpable. >> no, i mean, i'm not convinced that a murder charge would have actually stuck. i'm not convinced that he wouldn't have got himself off at least on appeal got himself off at least on appeal, because the law is clear. you've got to be mentally competent to be guilty of murder. but you can still get him locked up for life, for man's slaughter. and that is the practical option. what is not man's slaughter. and that is the pra

supervision even. yeah >> i mean, it's remarkable. look, i'm just going to play a little clip now from, uh, assistant chief constable rob griffin. sorry, it's a statement, actually. he said, i've personally reviewed this matter should have done matter and we should have done more to him. however more to arrest him. however because circumstances because of the circumstances prevailing at the time of the alleged in opinion, alleged assault, in my opinion, it is highly unlikely that he would received a custodial would have received a custodial sentence. so obviously echoing what saying there, do what you were saying there, do you think that the public feel as though justice has been done here? mean, the family clearly. >> well, don't know how the >> well, i don't know how the pubuc >> well, i don't know how the public feel. um, i do understand the reaction of the relatives. you know, that's understandable . you know, that's understandable. uh, but if you stand back and ask yourself what gave you the maximum chance of getting this man locked up for life, it would have been a manslaughter charge. >> ask you quickly on >> can i just ask you quickly on something here which a lot of people are skirting around? >> we were the first news channel to break the news that this individual migrant this individual was a migrant with violence , who with a history of violence, who was known to police, and we were the channel that did the only news channel that did

that quite time, that for quite some time, actually , there are question actually, there are question marks or not marks as to whether or not he should even the should have even been in the country. i know he lived here for a very long time, though obviously to get views obviously keen to get your views on uh, obviously you've >> uh, well, obviously you've got to have much better control of the borders. all know that of the borders. we all know that much control much better control of individual assessment. it's much better here better control of who comes here and who doesn't. he had been here a long time, and i think therefore, as therefore, you know, it's not as if we just admitted somebody who came immediately with that record. the other thing is, of course, the warrant for his arrest was because he'd assaulted officer assaulted a police officer and the well have just the police may well have just thought, we've got other thought, oh, no, we've got other priorities . priorities. >> and you very, very much >> and thank you very, very much . conservative . former conservative minister ann . i'm there next ann whittaker. i'm there next with the guardian charities and even the government insiders attacking number 10, new social housing policy . shouldn't we be housing policy. shouldn't we be celebrating the promise of british homes for british workers ? i give my take just workers? i give my take just after ten. this is patrick christys tonight , only on gb christys tonight, only on gb news >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of

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>> on stage. stop walking now. >> on stage. stop walking now. >> who do you trust to tackle the national epidemic ? that is the national epidemic? that is knife crime? the tories or labour? here's yvette cooper's pitch . pitch. >> there have to be urgent intervention programmes. there has to be a proper referral to the youth offending team. even in the youngest of cases, there's to be early action on. >> i'll reveal how keir starmer justifies sending a man to prison for defending his family against a knife wielding maniac in his own home. plus, do you think british nationals should be given priority housing? this guy does. >> i think a main focus should be on the on those that have been born here, educated here. >> it's time to put brits first. i'll have all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages today with my press pack on the panel tonight it's gb news star emily carver, lord bailey and amy nicole turner and what's wrong in this video ? so let's go. nicole turner and what's wrong in this video ? so let's go . one down. >> oh, good.

>> oh, good. >> um, i'll tell you why that's landed fitness guru joe wicks in hot water very soon. get ready britain, here we go. next i reveal who the most stupid, anti—british people in britain are . good evening . britain are. good evening. >> the top story from the gb newsroom tonight. the son of murdered caretaker ian coates says nhs mental health services and the police must be held accountable after his father's killer was given a hospital order rather than a prison sentence . 32 year old waldo sentence. 32 year old waldo callachan was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia when he killed ian coates and two nottingham university students, barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar, in june last yeah he o'malley kumar, in june last year. he pleaded not guilty to murder due to his mental condition , but did admit

condition, but did admit manslaughter. speaking outside the court, the victim's family said the triple killer had made a mockery of the system and got away with murder. barnaby webber's mother, emma, said they trusted the system but it had failed them . failed them. >> at no point during the previous five and a half months will be given any indication that this could conclude in anything other than murder . we anything other than murder. we trusted in our system . trusted in our system. foolishly, as it turns out , we foolishly, as it turns out, we do not dispute that the murderer is mentally unwell and has been for a number of years . however, for a number of years. however, the premeditated planning and the premeditated planning and the collection of lethal weapons hiding in the shadows and their brutality of the attacks are of an individual who knew exactly what he was doing. he knew entirely that it was wrong , but entirely that it was wrong, but he did it anyway . he did it anyway. >> emma webber, the mother of barnaby outside nottingham crown court today. well, the government has responded and been defending its record on tackling knife crime in a third crackdown in eight years. the home secretary saying today the

new restrictions are aimed at closing what he calls a loophole, which allows some types of so—called zombie knives to be kept and sold . and while to be kept and sold. and while labour says the new legislation doesn't go far enough, and there need to be tougher penalties , need to be tougher penalties, james cleverly says the government is making the right noises . noises. >> as i became home secretary , i >> as i became home secretary, i made the immediate decision to go further to put forward this secondary legislation to support what we've already done to make the possession of zombie knives illegal to and close the loophole. so i'm very pleased with taking action. now. we have seen a reduction in crime. we have a plan to drive it down further. that plan is working. we're determined to take these knives off the streets . knives off the streets. >> james cleverly now in the united states, a convicted killer is due to be put to death in what's been described as a cruel and untested method of capital punishment. 58 year old kenneth smith , who was convicted kenneth smith, who was convicted of murder in 1988, has already

avoided one execution after a failed lethal injection. the state of alabama will carry out the first execution of a prisoner using asphyxiation with nitrogen gas . the state hoping nitrogen gas. the state hoping the new method will be a simpler alternative to previous methods with the authorities describing it as the most painless and humane method of execution known to man . three people have been to man. three people have been arrested for allegedly posing as immigration lawyers helping through false asylum claims, and all from a garage in manchester. the home office has revealed that the suspects, including a married couple, were charged with charging over £3,000 per client for fake documents . it's client for fake documents. it's understood those arrested were british and chinese nationals. the government says it will be relentless in finding those abusing the immigration system for profit . and lastly , two for profit. and lastly, two statues marking australia's colonial history have been vandalised in melbourne as the

country prepares to mark its annual australia day . police are annual australia day. police are investigating after a century old statue of captain cook was sawn off at the ankles in a popular melbourne park . the popular melbourne park. the monument was also graffitied with the words the colony will fall . in addition, a statue of fall. in addition, a statue of queen victoria in the city centre was covered in red paint . centre was covered in red paint. tomorrow, australia day commemorates the arrival of the first fleet of british ships to the continent in 1788. australia's government said the statues will be restored after recently ruling out in a referendum on becoming a republic . and that's the news on republic. and that's the news on gb news across the uk on tv. in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> there is nothing controversial about wanting to prioritise british homes for british workers. in fact, i tell you what i think is controversial british soldiers

sleeping on the streets and british taxpayers paying the highest tax burden since world war two to subsidise people who have in this have just arrived in this country. it's controversial that we've completely shattered the social contract in britain. maybe the guardian could start with that before they carp on about a policy that shocks horror, would see a british government prioritise people who were born in britain. so so the tories want to look into fast tracking british citizens into social housing. good in brent, 40% of new social homes will let a foreign nationals in 2021 to 2022, 40, data from the office for national statistics shows. right across the country, 19.2% of social housing occupants are foreign born. that rises . to foreign born. that rises. to 47.6% in london, reportedly . why 47.6% in london, reportedly. why on earth are we letting so many people into this country who clearly cannot support themselves ? that's a heck of themselves? that's a heck of a lot of brain surgeons, cardiologists and engineers who've fallen on hard times,

isn't it? the guardian think it's controversial to want to put brits first. well, what kind of people think mass immigration of people think mass immigration of 700,000 a year is a good thing ? well, the usual labour or thing? well, the usual labour or lib dem guardian reading luvvies, isn't it ? okay, we need luvvies, isn't it? okay, we need to build more houses. who's blocking the planning application ? is the guardian application? is the guardian loving liberal democrats? if there's a whiff of a housing development local area, development in your local area, it's matter of seconds before it's a matter of seconds before someone socks , sandals someone wearing socks, sandals and eu beret brandishing and an eu beret brandishing a yellow rosette turns up to tell you to that if you vote for them, they'll block it. they are them, they'll block it. they are the problem. don't want us the problem. they don't want us to put brits first. they don't want to us reduce immigration. they want build more they don't want us to build more social in their local social housing in their local areas. no . are we care about areas. oh no. are we care about the poor? but not so much that we want them in our area. we wouldn't want to smell wouldn't want to have to smell them were downwind from them if we were downwind from their tower. i went their council tower. so i went to southwark today , where 29% of to southwark today, where 29% of social is going to social housing is going to people abroad to actually people born abroad to actually speak to people about speak to normal people about whether they thought it was controversial to have british

homes for british workers . homes for british workers. >> sorry, we're struggling in this country with homeless, homeless people. you can see outside southwark station, there's homeless people here as well. think our main focus well. i think our main focus should be on the on those that have been born and born here, educated here. >> any sane person looking into this country from the outside world would say the same. indeed this dutch man did i know only the situation in holland . the situation in holland. >> the people are waiting ten years or 12 years for a social housing and other people come in the country and with in a few months they have a house. >> so that's not fair , i think. >> so that's not fair, i think. >> so that's not fair, i think. >> and obviously the uncomfortable truth, especially for certain members of the labour party , is that people get labour party, is that people get some kind of social housing, then their circumstances change and they just clog up the system by refusing to move out on social housing. >> it's not reviewed . so you can >> it's not reviewed. so you can have a social house find yourself in a better position, but not actually be a review to

say, actually, you're not. >> now eligible for this, which i to look at. >> um, back in my earlier part of my life, i was in social housing and it really allowed me to kind of, you know, have that opportunity to move out of home and thing. and have that thing. >> so i really think it's important actually we need >> so i really think it's im be tant actually we need >> so i really think it's imbe able actually we need >> so i really think it's imbe able to actually we need >> so i really think it's imbe able to offerrally we need >> so i really think it's imbe able to offer it.ly we need >> so i really think it's imbe able to offer it forrve need to be able to offer it for everybody. but there needs to everybody. um but there needs to be with how we be a fair assessment with how we can do that. apparently the lawyers are already saying putting fall putting brits first would fall foul equalities law. foul of equalities law. >> it that equalities law >> why is it that equalities law always put the always seems to put the indigenous last? the indigenous population last? the only people think it's only people who think it's controversial to have a policy that would prioritise giving british people homes over people who have just arrived in this country are thick as mince, smarmy, nation hating, virtue signalling hypocrites whose own ridiculous ideology has caused the mess that they are now complaining about. but to respond now i'm joined again by a gb news presenter and contributor, emily carver, conservative peer lord bailey and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. emily do you

think it's controversial to want to give brits priority when it comes to social housing? >> no, i don't, i do think >> no, i don't, and i do think the write up of this story by the write up of this story by the guardian is quite curious. firstly, they seem to contradict themselves throughout on various points , but mostly because points, but mostly because i don't understand why the charity shelter has decided to lend a quote to this article that is so forthright . right? they're forthright. right? they're really giving the government a kicking before we even know what the actual proposal is here from the actual proposal is here from the government before . before the government before. before it's been consulting on their so quick to leap on this and say it's nothing more than scapegoat voting at its worst , it's nothing more than scapegoat voting at its worst, and it's unjust and all of this when i'm thinking actually , as the thinking actually, as the article does talk about gordon brown tried to do something quite similar. so it doesn't it does seem that there is a bit of a cross—party consensus , at a cross—party consensus, at least, that british people should probably have priority. >> this just you >> doesn't this just show you the faintest whiff that a national government might do something that might prioritise

its own nationals? all of a sudden the guardian are up in arms , the charities are up in arms, the charities are up in arms, the charities are up in arms . the arms, the charities are up in arms. the usual times are up in arms. the usual times are up in arms. you think we haven't even doneit arms. you think we haven't even done it yet, lads? >> i think, i think there's two things i'd say about this. firstly, most people be surprised that that british people are not top of the list. housing is obviously distributed on need and they would assume that the need here we constantly talk about a housing crisis. i know many people who live in very, very unsecure situations. they would think they'd assume that they'd ahead of that that they'd be ahead of that list us to list if you compare us to france, for instance, in france you receive any sort of you cannot receive any sort of benefits into benefits until you've paid into the for a while. so when the system for a while. so when you see that people can potentially jump the queue, you might so might see why we're so attractive to people. but attractive to other people. but important is important thing to say here is that the lack of social housing, the pain isn't felt equally certain. certain communities have a real problem with housing and other communities have no problem with housing. but it's those communities who get to comment the most about housing. those communities who get to com lent the most about housing. those communities who get to com i think|e most about housing. those communities who get to com i think that'st about housing. those communities who get to com i think that's wheret housing. those communities who get to

com i think that's where you jsing. and i think that's where you have a problem. if you spoke to most would probably most people, they would probably agree they agree with this and they wouldn't make it about race, particularly in london. you've got black, white, blue, got black, white, green, blue, everybody waiting for housing. i think surprised think people will be surprised that this isn't already the case. green and green and blue. >> mean, amy, we clearly, >> i mean, amy, we clearly, clearly have of a lot of clearly have a heck of a lot of brain surgeons, cardiologists and who've now fallen and engineers who've now fallen on times and need social housing. >> that's a silly thing to say , >> that's a silly thing to say, because we're not talking about just the people who i. i take it you're talking about the illegal immigrants. no, i'm talking about migrants coming across because people who can apply , because people who can apply, really for social housing are people who've either been guaranteed granted refugee guaranteed or granted refugee status or legal immigrants. >> no. and so this is a problem, isn't it? >> hang on. that's really misleading. i think the reason this controversial is this is so controversial is because giving the because it's giving the impression is actually impression that this is actually happening. the example of brent is outlier most of the time, is an outlier most of the time, far out on the roads of southwark. the people who are being given social housing are people with settled status, have been status. been given refugee status. so

that's claims been that's asylum claims have been successful are successful full. so yeah, we are giving them housing. but actually the real thing that's happening is we're not giving anyone housing. do you we anyone housing. do you think we have a housing crisis? there are anyone housing. do you think we ha'manyousing crisis? there are anyone housing. do you think we ha'many people :risis? there are anyone housing. do you think we ha'many people that? there are anyone housing. do you think we ha'many people that i there are anyone housing. do you think we ha'many people that i take; are so many people that i take housing, and why housing, amy. and that's why hang on. that's why i think shelter getting involved shelter are getting involved because homelessness because this is a homelessness problem. of every pound spent problem. 49 of every pound spent in eastbourne council, for example, on temporary example, was spent on temporary accommodation. there's not enough social housing across the board . board. >> okay, i take your point on that. and perhaps this won't actually be workable under the various equalities legislation , various equalities legislation, which is ridiculous that we have. and that is mentioned in, in the write up to that, that may be the case, but does it not do you not see that there might be an unjust this the other day we walking who we were walking past a man who was sleeping on the side of the road , um, a british guy who was road, um, a british guy who was there clearly no roof over his head. yes. i don't know his story. maybe he was a nasty , story. maybe he was a nasty, horrible man who'd ruined his life or whatever else. but life and or whatever else. but just to think that people who

have just come over might be given priority when it comes to also housing. i'm not saying that they shouldn't have access to housing, but when it comes to social housing, which is so sought country, sought after in this country, surely whether you've lived in an area for a long time should count. okay, one you don't know his nationality, so he could be one of these foreign nationals that talking that we're talking about. >> did him talk and i do >> we did hear him talk and i do take your to the main take your point to the main injustice the state of social injustice is the state of social housing. tower , that housing. grenfell tower, that was housing. you know , was social housing. you know, the number of people that that were foreign were foreign nationals with in grenfell tower . the thing we should be focusing on the and the focusing on is the lack and the standard of social housing on offer, not quibbling about who sean sean absolutely need to quibble . quibble. >> who gets access to that housing because it's a finite resource and the way we've been handung resource and the way we've been handling immigration. look, the chief executive of shelter says these people didn't create the social housing need. she's she's completely right . but they are completely right. but they are part of the problem we have to overcome. so therefore what we

should be helping people. the reason this is we should be helping people in order that they arrive. because if you arrive with a same amount of need someone is here, but you need as someone is here, but you beat queue that feels beat them in a queue that feels it's a queue and it's it's not about a queue and it's not about beating anyone. >> this controversial because >> this is controversial because it says don't have a house it says you don't have a house because that foreigner, because of that foreigner, not you have a house because you don't have a house because we any and we sold we haven't built any and we sold them all off. >> amy, in cases that is >> amy, in some cases that is literally is literally true. that is literally true. that is literally in literally true in some cases. in some cases, british people will not have a house because it has been given a foreign national. >> but it's always done in need. so had a family with kids so if you had a family with kids over an individual person, of course it to the family. >> let's see, i lived alone, right? i'd fallen on hard right? and i'd fallen on hard times, and then all of a sudden, someone who's just rocked up in this country, but got this country, but they've got two get a house. but two kids, they get a house. but patrick, why have they rocked 7 up. up? >> have they rocked up? >> why have they rocked up? they've rocked because they they've rocked up because they have claim. so are have an asylum claim. so are they as deserving as they they not as deserving as they probably served with us forces in come in afghanistan? they've come here, settled status. you don't know majority.

know the majority. >> on. thing would >> hold on. the thing i would say, i say, if you've say, the thing i say, if you've arrived yesterday you've been arrived yesterday or you've been here you will need here 25 years, you will need for social housing. if social housing. you know, if you've both kids is no is no you've both got kids is no is no different. and if you different. and so if you prioritise who haven't prioritise people who haven't beenin prioritise people who haven't been in the queue and believe you me, there absolutely is a queue, very, very long queue. queue, a very, very long queue. it nobody is it feels unjust. nobody is saying shouldn't be saying people shouldn't be housed. saying, people housed. what i'm saying, people are should are saying is there should be a bit more a look at all bit more of a look at who's. all i'm saying the queue. and i'm saying is the queue. and shouldn't the government have given london alone? have given just london alone? have given just london alone? have given over billion to given london over £8 billion to build social housing in the last six years? >> em- em— e say is this isn't >> what i will say is this isn't going the housing crisis. >> no, that's why i think it's controversial. it's unnecessary. >> okay. you. >> all right. okay. all of you. thank much. a rip thank you very much. a rip roaring start to the hour coming up with britain's married population falling below 50% for the britain the first time, is britain suffering from a severe of suffering from a severe lack of stable families? we're going to be debating that in my press pack. that's one the inside pack. that's one of the inside stories. next, as both stories. but next, as both of britain's political parties announced fresh plans to cut down crime down the scourge of knife crime sweeping down the scourge of knife crime swivou 1g down the scourge of knife crime swivou actually trust more, more do you actually trust more, more to tackle? problem is it to tackle? the problem is it labour the tories ?

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front pages very, very soon. but first, britain's two biggest parties have been battling it out to bring down knife crime. today the government announced a crackdown on zombie knives, the blade that increasing been blade that is increasing been unked blade that is increasing been linked crime and linked to gang crime and violence meanwhile violence in the uk. meanwhile keir starmer vowed to slash knife crime by half . here is knife crime by half. here is shadow home secretary yvette cooper setting out labour's plan i >> -- >> there have to be urgent intervention programmes, there has to be a proper referral to the youth offending team . even the youth offending team. even in the youngest of cases, there's got to be early action. >> well, while labour may vow to get tough on blades, their existing record isn't much to write home about . with write home about. with knifepoint robberies in london rising by 36% this year under sadiq khan . labour. however, the sadiq khan. labour. however, the mayor of london, well, he's got an excuse for everything, hasn't he? why is london doing so badly on knife crime and knife robberies? >> well , the reason why the >> well, the reason why the commissioner and i convened a mobile phone operators, manufacturers and platforms .

manufacturers and platforms. >> because actually, the biggest personal robbery is of mobile phones. >> well, someone's just going to stick a knife to my throat now, are they? is that is that what happens? mobile phones . i mean, happens? mobile phones. i mean, you heard him right there. it's our fault for carrying mobile phones. let's not forget phones. and let's not forget that palmer himself that kirsty palmer himself rejected calls to toughen burglary laws after a home owner was sent to prison for defending himself against knife wielding burglars who had broken into his house and tied him up to debate this, i'm joined now by former london minister and conservative mp paul scully and labour councillor permana assad . thank councillor permana assad. thank you very much, both of you. great to have you on the show. uh paul, who can we trust more when it comes to sorting out knife crime ? i mean, they do knife crime? i mean, they do both seem pretty bad . both seem pretty bad. >> look, you actually have to have national government and local government or regional government in london's case, working together. >> you . it's a really >> you. it's a really complicated problem . complicated problem. >> but, you know, if we look at

what the labour party have announced today, these are things already either things that are already either in place or coming in place , uh, in place or coming in place, uh, at moment, things like the at the moment, things like the orders talking about, orders they're talking about, there community protection notices. >> we're banning , notices. >> we're banning, um, zombie knives. i was actually on the bill committee that went through the last, um , uh, iteration of the last, um, uh, iteration of this. i don't remember this coming up at the time. so the we've got to get rid of this loophole now, but it's really complicated. i just get sick of the of london keeps the mayor of london keeps shovelling blame onto shovelling the blame onto everybody else apart from him . everybody else apart from him. if that's the case, what's the point mayor? point of the mayor? >> paul? can i just ask, what's the point of banning zombie knives? somebody you wanted to get a zombie knife and then use it? does not care about what the law is? >> no. but i think you could have the sale it. and have banned the sale of it. and so people are actually so that people are actually selling things. uh, can selling the things. um uh, can be, thrown in prison as be, uh, thrown in prison as well. so the more you can take them out of the market, the better. but what you actually find is that a lot of the knife crime is dealt with by people

who are just picking up a knife to keep themselves safe, and that's ridiculous. so that's why it's complicated. because you've got to get really early and got to get in really early and get that education piece, because someone's because once someone's got a knife, actually late . knife, it's actually too late. >> okay. um, i'll you in >> okay. um, i'll bring you in now. councillor, it now. labour councillor, is it difficult labour when difficult to trust labour when it being tough on it comes to being tough on crime? we've seen there that keir starmer didn't want to toughen after toughen up burglary laws after a bloke in his bloke defended himself in his own against a knife own home against a knife wielding man, and also as well, has signed petitions say that has signed petitions to say that we don't really want criminals deported. mean, can we deported. i mean, can we actually labour at all? actually trust labour at all? >> well, here's the thing, patrick. i think after 13 years of conservative rule, we've seen underfunding in our nhs , cuts to underfunding in our nhs, cuts to our police, cuts to local councils and over over the last decade , the tories had a chance decade, the tories had a chance to actually fix this problem. >> and they didn't. and you know, paul is right in terms of saying that prevention is one of the key factors in trying to tackle the knife crime issue. you know, you need to have good teachers. you need to have

support schools to be able to support in schools to be able to tackle but tackle this problem. but you also to support in also need to have support in local councils try and do the local councils to try and do the prevention work. if they catch young people carrying knives and at the moment, local councils are so underfunded that they're going down to statutory services , which is making it much more difficult. i mean, if you look at it in in on a london wide case, you know, 1 billion of cuts that the tories have implemented, 130 youth service centres have been cut in london and that in itself has impacted the knife crime situation. so i think that we can trust labour. but but we have to remember there is a government in power that has been in power for 13 years and they haven't done it. >> fine. let's paul's come back to then paul, some quite to that then paul, some quite scathing your party scathing stuff about your party there. yeah >> because look, you've got you know, a mayor who's know, you've got a mayor who's um using stop search less um using stop and search less and less. you've got mayor and less. you've got a mayor that's facto police that's the de facto police commissioner london. uh, commissioner for london. um, uh, sadiq khan, who's, uh, who's, who's failing to bring back that

trust in the met to have the police around to be able to recruit enough policemen on the doom recruit enough policemen on the door, you know, on the streets to able to that to be able to have that deterrent effect. so these we're trialling technology uh, trialling technology to, uh, across country to try and across the country to try and work on this, but we really need our and crime our police and crime commissioners, which we're seeing of seeing in other parts of the country well, we're country affecting. well, we're really not it in london, really not seeing it in london, which that, uh, uh, you know, which is that, uh, uh, you know, it has a massive effect on families around london, has a massive effect on country, massive effect on the country, and reputation and indeed, our reputation across the world. >> okay. now, look, pimana , it's >> okay. now, look, pimana, it's not just a london thing, though, and most of our and i'm very keen. most of our viewers in london. viewers are not in london. right. of our viewers right. and most of our viewers who people in the west who are people in the west midlands who've people in midlands who've got people in greater etc, all greater manchester, etc, all of these labour these places under labour councils , right, who are seeing councils, right, who are seeing massive, massive, massive knife crime incidents. i mean, is there not a theme here really? i mean, can we can labour just blame it all on us carrying mobile phones? i mean, you know, you've people saying, oh you've got people saying, oh it's a, it's public it's a, it's a public health issue. a public health issue. it's only a public health issue. it's only a public health issue. once people stabbed. issue. once people get stabbed. isn't crime issue really .

isn't it a crime issue really. >> well, do think that there >> well, i do think that there is a theme here. the theme is that we've had a conservative government years, and government for 13 years, and that conservative government has over years, cut over the last 13 years, cut funding to the police. we've seen so many police officers taken off our streets. i mean, i can talk about my ward, but i'm pretty sure that there are labour and down labour councillors up and down this who will you this country who will tell you the thing. know, you the same thing. you know, you need tough on crime, but need to be tough on crime, but we need to also be tough on the causes of crime. you can't just underfund services underfund local services and expect that that labour councillors labour councillors or labour councils or councils general will be or councils in general will be able to tackle this issue. we need to be able to have the prevention intervention prevention and the intervention ability to do this, and young people suffering up and down people are suffering up and down this country because of it. and i unless we have that i think unless we have that funding in place properly from national because national government, because 80% of for police, for of funding for police, for example, just in london, comes from national government, 20% comes from regional government . comes from regional government. so we need to look at the funding. >> just just to clarify, have have labour said they're going to because labour said to do that because labour said

they're to do things they're going to do the things that want to be done. well that you want to be done. well >> have committed to >> labour have committed to having teams. having town centre police teams. it's i want as it's something that i want as a local councillor is something that i want to see in my local area. committed to area. they've also committed to investing to tackle investing 100 million to tackle knife crime a knife crime knife crime is a huge issue it's impacting huge issue and it's impacting every community and just looking at it, we keep looking at it like it's a normal thing and keep keep going forward. but we actually need. >> okay, okay. final word paul. go on, go on. >> yeah i hate getting a bidding wars, but we've got £160 million going in. wars, but we've got £160 million goiiwe've got lot of these >> we've got a lot of these things happening. but yeah, we're yet again we're hearing things happening. but yeah, we're yelabour we're hearing things happening. but yeah, we're ye labour politicianiring things happening. but yeah, we're ye labour politician that's another labour politician that's deflecting to deflecting the blame to everybody from themselves. everybody apart from themselves. we we to see we devolve power. we want to see that wielded properly, to that power wielded properly, to take our street . take knives off our street. >> okay, both of you, thank you very, much. thank you. very, very much. thank you. great that's former great stuff. that's former london conservative london minister, conservative mp paul scully labour paul scully and labour councillor permana um, councillor permana assad. um, right. serious serious right. okay serious serious issue. who do you trust more when it comes to sorting out knife crime? possibly suspect nehhen knife crime? possibly suspect neither. up , neither. but coming up, britain's married population has fallen 50% for the first

fallen below 50% for the first time. should we be concerned by the collapse of the nuclear family? dare it, is family? look dare i say it, is that part of actually the issue we were talking before? you've got running around with got kids running around with knives drugs and all got kids running around with knthis drugs and all got kids running around with knthis do drugs and all got kids running around with knthis do theyrugs and all got kids running around with knthis do they dos and all got kids running around with knthis do they do thati all of this stuff. do they do that if got strong nuclear if they've got strong nuclear family? will, all. but family? some will, not all. but next, press pack join me to next, my press pack join me to run the first of run through the first of tomorrow's front pages tomorrow's newspaper front pages as it's the liveliest as they land. it's the liveliest paper review you will get anywhere on the telly. i've just paper review you will get any\aiere on the telly. i've just paper review you will get any\a little1 the telly. i've just paper review you will get any\a little advance .y. i've just paper review you will get any\a little advance sightz just paper review you will get any\a little advance sight of|st had a little advance sight of some front pages in the some of the front pages in the last yeah uh, it's quite last break. yeah uh, it's quite spicy stuff on there. patrick

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knife killer to be held in hospital . probably for life. hospital. probably for life. yeah, absolutely . grace daily yeah, absolutely. grace daily express now. blood on their hands. a picture story. there of course, with the families and relatives of those people that that triple killer did indeed kill just below that hunt . kill just below that hunt. today's tax cuts are just the start. jeremy hunt has vowed that tax cuts now , now hitting that tax cuts now, now hitting pay that tax cuts now, now hitting pay packets are just the start, as he promised, a brighter future is near. all right . the future is near. all right. the daily star up yours as military top brass call for a citizen's army to face down. mad vlad, 90% of you say we'd refuse to fight . of you say we'd refuse to fight. meanwhile, health chiefs say that brits would be far too fat to be much use in a warning. i do wonder what our seriously you know, the surviving world war two veterans in this country looking at the state of it at the moment and thinking that we've got we've got people openly celebrating the fact that they wouldn't fight for britain anyway, let's to i.

anyway, let's go to the i. labour's tax trap. starmer warned he must reverse tory tax cuts or squeeze uk public services . cuts or squeeze uk public services. senior member of the tony blair cabinet. yeah, that's right, urges keir starmer not to prioritise or promise to match tory tax plans. there you go. isn't it remarkable? we could be going into an election with a party who thinks it is an election winning strategy to reverse tax cuts that haven't happened yet. i mean, here we go anyway. so look , those are, of anyway. so look, those are, of course, your front pages. i'm joined by my press pack. gb news presenter and contributor emily carver, conservative peer lord bailey and author and broadcaster amy nicholl turner. we're going to delve inside one of the papers before we get stuck into some of the front pages. okay, it's a bombshell new data has revealed that the british married population has fallen below 50% for the first time, while the number of unmarried couples living together has risen to more than 6 million. so lord bailey, is there a severe lack of stable families in the uk? do you think

? >> 7. >>i ? >> i think 7_ >> i think i'm a ? >> i think i'm a big fan of marriage. i've been married for 18 years myself. married people live longer, make more money. i'll better health, better i'll have better health, better mental their children do mental health. their children do better in school, stable better in school, but stable families are not families and marriage are not exclusive. people exclusive. there's many people have a stable family who are not married. marriage would would suggest but think the suggest that. but i think the important this spoke important thing is this i spoke to person about this and to a young person about this and she basically said, i wouldn't want marriage like want my marriage to look like her young her parents, but for young people, be people, they they could be married make look married and make it look a different way. i think there'll be in marriage. the be changes in marriage. and the other say is, as well, other thing to say is, as well, most children for a long time now have been outside of marriage , started outside marriage, started outside marriage, started outside marriage, and i think that so to the public, this wouldn't be a revelation. they'd have thought that for a time. but the other thing to say, we always talk about divorce rates and how people get divorced all the time. but married people are far less likely to go for break—up less likely to go for a break—up than less likely to go for a break—up tha okay, amy, your your views on >> okay, amy, your your views on this. i mean, the number of unmarried couples living together has risen to more than 6 million. it's fine , obviously.

6 million. it's fine, obviously. i mean, but the british married population has fallen below 50% for the first time, which is interesting because we've got an ageing population as well, really. so i mean, it does really. so i mean, it does really imply that most marriages are breaking now presumably. yeah. um, i don't know. what >> yeah. um, i don't know. what i find interesting is that with the rise of unmarried people, probably people think that if they split up and they live together, they'll have protections and things like that. so and that's not the case. so i think there needs to be legal reform around this so that, um, cohabiting couples who do split up get the same chances as if you get divorced. yeah >> but the challenge with that, amy, is how do you how do you determine that were determine that they were a couple. marriage is a legal contract, government contract, which the government people so they people aren't doing it, so they do to be protected. do need to be protected. >> yeah. we can't push people into. >> emily, what's your view on marriage? interest. marriage? out of interest. asking a friend. asking for a friend. >> well, i'm not married yet. no, but i think it's quite sad that people getting that people aren't getting married so many married because on so many across metrics the across so many metrics for the couple for children .

couple and for their children. crucially, yes, it is better for more money, far less likely to be living in poverty , far more be living in poverty, far more stable children are likely to do far better at school, better outcomes across the board . so outcomes across the board. so i think it's a sad thing if people don't get married. but what's interesting is that the conservatives to bring this back to politics, the concern is don't this type of don't talk about this type of stuff. it's quite stuff. and it's quite interesting you've got interesting because you've got monsieur in france monsieur macron in france talking importance of talking about the importance of marriage babies and marriage and having babies and all . but the conservatives all this. but the conservatives are very shy about about are very shy about talking about traditional like the traditional things like the family . family. >> yeah, that's the problem, isn't it? >> it is a problem. and i'll tell you why should talk tell you why we should talk about is it's a about family is it's a statistical fact that families do better for children, do better for the adults involved. so government should be so any government should be talking most talking about the most successful to have you successful way to have a, you know, a smooth flowing life. and their families are statistical fact. and i think one of the most important things is we've talked about obesity today. we've often about about, we've often talked about about, um, people's poor financial situations. matt ridge is one of

the best ways of positively addressing those things. addressing both of those things. >> about the importance of >> spoke about the importance of marriage and stable families and immediate lee. she got criticised for saying for demonising single parents and that's not no . you can talk that's not no. you can talk about the benefits of marriage without saying that single parents are useless, but that's why politicians are terrified to speak about it. >> because you support >> just because you support marriage, you marriage, it doesn't mean you don't support people. don't support single people. >> just just quickly. because in in we're going in the next section, we're going to what's on to be talking about what's on the front of the eye, which is about being urged to about labour being urged to essentially the tory tax essentially reverse the tory tax cuts. or, or to slash cuts. um, or, or have to slash pubuc cuts. um, or, or have to slash public services just quickly. i would quite like talk about would quite like to talk about what's on the front of the daily express, which is, well, the opposite. cuts are opposite. today's tax cuts are just the start, says jeremy hunt. you've got to hunt. amy, i mean, you've got to welcome tax cuts, haven't you? surely? come on, cut the taxes. >> care about tax cuts. >> i don't care about tax cuts. i care about tax i really don't care about tax cuts. what i want is a good school. for my son to go to. what i want is to be able to go and get a job. you pay more tax,

you'd love to pay more tax. i would like to just my tax that i pay, would like to just my tax that i pay, which is quite a lot. according to my self—assessment this it's depressing this week. it's so depressing when give away that when you have to give away that much money and what you see, what back is so woeful. what you get back is so woeful. um no tax cuts improve public services, please. reform of pubuc services, please. reform of public services. >> crucially, can have >> and crucially, you can have better >> and crucially, you can have betthave >> and crucially, you can have bett have tax >> and crucially, you can have betthave tax cuts you grow can have tax cuts if you grow the economy and there's more money public and we can't we money for public and we can't we cannot grow our economy if we don't some cuts. don't have some tax cuts. >> we to give people, we >> we have to give people, we have to give people the ability to the money that the tax to keep the money that the tax cuts that were suggesting cuts that they were suggesting were inheritance tax. >> none am going to pay >> none of us are going to pay inheritance tax. >> actually they're looking >> no, actually they're looking at yeah at income tax. yeah because that's you know, that's going to be, you know, the it's their last throw of the dice isn't it really. this budget is their last chance. >> inheritance tax. >> and also inheritance tax. >> and also inheritance tax. >> tax you the >> inheritance tax shows you the moral tax. when moral dilemma about tax. when you tax someone's inheritance they've already on they've already paid tax on that money. a game money. you can build a game about buying a chocolate bar with vat on it. >> already been taxed on my >> i've already been taxed on my income. that's a double dip as much as not the same way. much as not in the same way.

>> not not in the same way. not in the way. in the same way. >> inheritance. you agree? tax is well, how? >> yeah. well, how? >> yeah. well, how? >> i see where taxes go. >> now i see where my taxes go. which is to rwanda. it does feel a bit like theft. yeah. >> at of the day, >> look at the end of the day, plunder from people from all over the world. >> actually, amy, go. >> actually, amy, there we go. now look, when fans now look, when england fans chanted home. did chanted it's coming home. did they mean this? made in they really mean this? made in chelsea toffolo chelsea star georgia toffolo watches match at watches the chelsea match at stamford in a bad . stamford bridge in a bad. chelsea . chelsea . james it's chelsea. chelsea. james it's real. >> she has a good life . how did >> she has a good life. how did she make that happen? >> life. she's got a great life. life is fantastic. >> absolutely love toff right. um. meanwhile there west london rivals fulham didn't cover themselves in glory earlier and as club handed out flags to as the club handed out flags to supporters and, um. well it bore the unfortunate resemblance

there of the infamous hoods of there of the infamous hoods of the american white supremacist group, the ku klux klan. so there we go . you don't need var there we go. you don't need var on that one. >> definitely never runs marketings in trouble. >> someone. yeah, right . yes. >> someone. yeah, right. yes. gary, did you see what the flags would look like before they went out? oh, sorry. i'm sorry. it's just about look coming up, coming up, coming up. is there any excuse for urinating on a cancer ? uh, no. is the cancer patient? uh, no. is the obvious answer. and i would like to immediately to qualify that immediately before clips it and before someone clips it and thinks doing debate on thinks we're doing a debate on it. find out wedding dj it. find out why a wedding dj has doing has been jailed for doing exactly that. as i crown tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. but first we show you the latest electric vehicles who have gone up in flames alongside more of tomorrow's front page. in our second instalment press pack is instalment of the press pack is patrick tonight, and patrick christys tonight, and we're on gb news

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patrick christys tonight, only on gb news. it's time to return now to the liveliest pay per view. you'll get on the telly with more front pages for you right now. the independent police have blood on their hands. fury of knife victim's family . if hands. fury of knife victim's family. if you hands. fury of knife victim's family . if you done your job family. if you done your job properly , my beautiful boy might properly, my beautiful boy might be alive today. that's the mother of one of the deceased accusing the forces chief of failing to stop the stabbings. the triple killer is now sent to a secure mental hospital . uh, a secure mental hospital. uh, the daily mail goes with aristocrat and her lover went on the run carrying newborn baby in a little bag for life . old a little bag for life. old bailey, his infant's body was found under rubbish in a shed. so this is that trial of the missing persons case initially that gripped the nation for a number of days. actually and they basically talks about the couple's four previous children, all of whom have been taken into care. it's that aristocrat and her lover who went on the run for period of time. we'll have for a period of time. we'll have more on that shortly. the more detail on that shortly. the telegraph with

telegraph he's got away with murder. well, mean, he has, murder. well, i mean, he has, hasn't got hasn't he? quite literally got away families away with murder. families furious the railroading furious at the cps railroading as attorney general to review the nottingham killer sentence. do we think it's right that this guy, this triple killer who tried to kill three more, by the way, has managed to essentially get well? yeah, get off with murder is manslaughter, isn't he? got. let's go to the he? he's got. let's go to the sun now. kyrees bill 91, facing bankruptcy . grief. he lives near bankruptcy. grief. he lives near my mum and dad. coronation street legend bill roache faces being made bankrupt aged 91. the ken barlow star has been formally petitioned by hmrc over his tax affairs. i mean, this guy's been in country for absolutely yonks. if you're not still afloat after that then good grief. self—assessments very confusing. it's been confusing for 91 years. the times police chief has blood on his hands, right? there's a theme there, obviously. um, the mirror as well. again they were failed, right? okay, so the vast majority of the front pages tomorrow leading the way with this families blasting this grieving families blasting authorities not preventing this grieving families blasting

auti nottingham)t preventing this grieving families blasting auti nottingham rampage. ng this grieving families blasting auti nottingham rampage. let's this nottingham rampage. let's do a bit of that then. okay. i think it's fitting. it's on the front. absolutely staggering . front. absolutely staggering. uh, cases. look, emily, i mean, you know, the idea that this bloke could be wanted for an arrest warrant, i mean, the fact that he came to britain when he was 14 years old and his nickname when he was in his university dorm was the serial killer. and he's then, you know, had different arrests, had numerous different arrests, numerous had numerous different arrests, numerou and was allowed offences and was just allowed out wandering goes out wandering the streets goes on to, to kill three people and tries three others. tries to kill three others. >> many failures . and the >> so many failures. and the statement the judges >> so many failures. and the statemyafter the judges >> so many failures. and the statemyafter he the judges >> so many failures. and the statemyafter he dishediges >> so many failures. and the statemyafter he dished out the ruling, after he dished out the sentencing a order not sentencing a hospital order not a conviction for murder at all, the statement from the victim's earlier was so emotional and they listed some of the failings from police, nhs , mental health from police, nhs, mental health services, social services and of course, uh , the judiciary. and course, uh, the judiciary. and it's just it was so emotional covering this earlier hearing from the families . they do not from the families. they do not believe that justice has been served at all and they have no

trust in the system. amy, you've got a different view. >> well, only about the verdict. i think in the in the run up, his whole he shouldn't have been out on the street. he should have been a mental health have been in a mental health facility. facility. however, i think been overlooked quite think it's been overlooked quite how unwell was when he how unwell he was when he committed these murders, which is he has been sentenced to is why he has been sentenced to life in broadmoor. there's not it's not a cushy little tuck in hospital. it's a mental health, high security, high security prison hospital. um, but i've been quite shocked by people failing to appreciate that he was suffering from schizophrenia to the point where he was paranoid. voices in his head that i don't. >> can i just push back on that slightly because i don't think there's actually a huge amount. if you look at what's on the front pages today, there's not a huge amount of like, you know, what an absolute scumbag this guy is. it is more a case of how was this allowed to happen, which implies shaun bailey that people what angry people are what they're angry about the fact that the about is the fact that the authorities didn't get a grip of

this look a little while ago, a good her son, 22 good friend of mine, her son, 22 year old, was stabbed to death and there are not words to describe the destruction that's caused in her life. >> and one of the few rays of hope was that she would get some justice. and if your family's in this position and doesn't get any justice, you will never, ever feel right. there's a large chance you will never feel right. but this, this, this pause flame, this pause. petrol on that flame. you need to deliver justice. and the failings were multiple . and failings were multiple. and that's why the anger is so large . all right. >> we're just going to shift it on now. and talk about an electric bus caught fire in electric bus has caught fire in london for the third time this month. firefighters tackled the not same i imagine not the same bus. i imagine firefighters flames firefighters tackled the flames engulfing the decker bus engulfing the single decker bus at garage at calverton at a bus garage at calverton roadin at a bus garage at calverton road in putney on wednesday . 20 road in putney on wednesday. 20 people evacuated from the people were evacuated from the garage before emergency services arrived at the scene . is it just arrived at the scene. is it just me or do these electric buses

seem to be lighting up quite regularly now? >> this is actually more serious than it seems because electric , than it seems because electric, quite serious. but let me let me make let me paint a picture for you. electric buses, the fires, electric cars, buses, fires. electric cars, buses, the fires. almost put out. almost impossible to put out. and in, we're very busy and we are in, we're very busy in this country putting millions of the road, and we of them on the road, and we haven't sorted fire response haven't sorted the fire response to them. so picture scenario where bus goes, where a car where that bus goes, where a car goes underground car goes up in an underground car park there's people that park and there's people that live i mean, this didn't live above, i mean, this didn't happen with the older petrol and diesel did easier diesel buses did it much easier with electric vehicle. with an electric vehicle. >> they did. >> i mean, they did. >> i mean, they did. >> mean, it is possible to set >> i mean, it is possible to set i mean, quite famously, are i mean, quite famously, they are flammable. i mean, quite famously, they are flammab mean just to suddenly >> but i mean just to suddenly erupt. >> yeah. to combust. yeah it used to take, you know, a lighter a before, lighter and a match before, didn't now it just needs didn't it? and now it just needs to happen. >> i can't about flammable >> i can't talk about flammable electric vehicles without allison pearson here. she's expert. >> she? she is. and also she >> did she? she is. and also she now be fair, you are an now also to be fair, you are an expert many things. eamonn. expert on many things. eamonn. i would not expect you to be an expert on the wiring of an inner city so look, city london bus. so look, fitness guru joe wicks come

fitness guru joe wicks has come under this viral video. under for fire this viral video. can you work out why ? okay, so can you work out why? okay, so on the pull up bar fitness fanatic joe wicks kept everyone entertained and then to be honest with you , a little bit honest with you, a little bit annoyed during lockdown. um and here he is going up and down, up and down and there's, there's, there's the little one next to him, isn't he. so he's been blasted for this, this supposedly dangerous supposedly anyway dangerous stunt old stunt because his three year old mini marley is seen mini me son marley is seen precariously balancing on a barbell before doing a series of chin ups. that's one way to tackle the childhood obesity epidemic, though. um people need to keep their own house in order before they start criticising a fitness guru for helping his kid do pull ups . do pull ups. >> i mean, seriously, we just everyone's got an opinion. >> we're so we we're so >> we're just so we we're so auen >> we're just so we we're so alien to any of risk. we alien to any kind of risk. we need let kids climb trees, need to let kids climb trees, get out there , get messy, get out there, get messy, experience some risk. >> joe wicks has had this since he's had his little boy. people comment on every single move he makes. i remember had makes. i remember when he had him in baby carrier him in a baby carrier and everyone like, about everyone was like, what about

the like they're the hips? like they're constantly worried about joe wicks and sure joe wicks child, and i'm sure joe wicks child, and i'm sure joe wicks knows what's best his wicks knows what's best for his david imagine these david mellor imagine these people are all perfect. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, well, quite. >> parents david beckham did a bit, didn't i think it was bit, didn't he? i think it was that one where he kissed his seven year daughter seven year old daughter on the lips something, everyone lips or something, and everyone was disgusting. was like, oh, it's disgusting. is disgusting? no, it's own is it disgusting? no, it's own daughter for goodness sake. anyway, to reveal anyway, it's time now to reveal today's greatest and uni today's greatest britain and uni and jackass, you might not semele emily, who's semele first. so, emily, who's your well, your greatest britain? well, it's the families of it's got to be the families of the nottingham victims. >> stood bravely and gave >> they stood bravely and gave their statement . their statement. >> yeah, okay. yeah, i was going to be hard one to beat. to be fair, my is caesar the police horse? >> you've been euthanised after 23 years of service. he was described as a big horse and a big heart. and of course he helped keep the country safe. pubuc helped keep the country safe. public order events and all sorts. and who doesn't love a beautiful horse? >> may >> well, caesar may he rest in peace. amy who's your greatest britain? >> so i've gone for a flock of parrots right now. they learn to swear and they could say what?

what? lee anderson said should go back to france. >> ever . go back to france. >> ever. right? >> ever. right? >> that's okay. um, and so they had to be rehomed in a new, in a new enclosure thing with otherf off back to france. no, they don't . don't. >> yes, that's a xenophobe parrot. yeah. so i just couldn't think. >> i couldn't think of a way to say it with the whole being on live tv thing. they say f off. can i say that? i can say that. >> look, it's happened now. >> look, it's happened now. >> yeah. um, and so they put them in a new enclosure where they hope to. they won't say it anymore, but there's risk anymore, but there's a risk because now they're with like 500 parrots who might all 500 other parrots who might all learn to it. so you're going learn to say it. so you're going to have, course, course. to have, of course, of course. >> okay. look on, on a more >> okay. and look on, on a more serious note, as much as i would have done the have liked to have done the parrot the police horse, parrot and the police horse, i think to today. the think to today. yeah the families of the of the nottingham victims. so there we go. are today's greatest. go. they are today's greatest. britain's jackass. emily. go. they are today's greatest. britwell, jackass. emily. go. they are today's greatest. britwell, jéto ass. emily. go. they are today's greatest. britwell, jéto be. emily. go. they are today's greatest. britwell, jéto be thisily. >> well, it's got to be this wedding dj that decided to urinate patient. urinate on a cancer patient. yeah, to jail, and yeah, he's going to jail, and he's pay compensation .

he's got to pay compensation. yeah. so, uh, nice guy. yeah >> uh, that guy is an absolute pillock, isn't he? >> well, yeah, i mean, i can't think of anything more despicable the decline despicable and shows the decline in our society, i think. >> and he did it all for snapchat, which i think makes it ten times worse. >> yeah. why film it as well? why do it? well, let me qualify that. it. >> why do it. >> why do it. >> and it was prostate cancer by the way. >> okay, sean, my union jack is natwest debunked natwest bank after they debunked our nigel. our very own nigel. >> they've now decided to de—banking basically a whole entire peak entire community in the peak district. the district. they're removing the last but that's really last bank. but but that's really important you're elderly or important if you're elderly or you to deal in cash, you just like to deal in cash, you just like to deal in cash, you speak to someone. you want to speak to someone. they've your opportunity they've removed your opportunity to forevermore . so we to do that forevermore. so we need to make the provide need to make the banks provide some physical banks in definitely rural communities , definitely rural communities, especially in rural communities, because know, the because you know, the demographics in rural communities as well, often elderly. >> and they can't. amy, who's elderly. >> aunion?y can't. amy, who's your union? >> jackass? my works for >> jackass? my husband works for a but anyway, a branchless bank, but anyway, um, gove, because, um, um, michael gove, because, um, he he has said the reason councils don't have any money is

because of discredited diversity schemes. and nothing to do with the fact that they have to fork out temporary accommodation , out for temporary accommodation, um, sorts of things. so um, and all sorts of things. so all right. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> today's today's union jack carson. outrageous. yeah. favouritism towards my own fiance is lee brookfield, who decided to urinate on a cancer patient. can i just thank my wonderful thank wonderful panel? thank you, thank thank you, thank you thank you, thank you, thank you to watching or to you for watching at home or listening out in your car or whatever doing. i'll be whatever you're doing. i'll be back p.m. tomorrow. until back at 9 pm. tomorrow. until then, keep fighting the good fight brighter outlook with then, keep fighting the good fight solarhter outlook with then, keep fighting the good fight solar sponsorsok with then, keep fighting the good fight solar sponsors of with then, keep fighting the good fight solar sponsors of weather boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> alex deakin here with your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. good evening. after a fairly cloudy but mild thursday, friday looks much brighter with most of us seeing some sunny spells. a couple of weather fronts to swing across the country though. tonight one's already tonight this one's already bringing cloud and rain to parts of england wales, of northern england and wales, and bring a band and this one will bring a band of quite rain that will of quite heavy rain that will zip across scotland and northern

england and northern ireland this the gusts will this evening, and the gusts will suddenly pick up as that rain band moves across, and it will then spread across most of england and wales from west to east. so we'll all see some rain through the night. but tending to dry most dawn, to become dry for most by dawn, turning quite cold across northern some northern scotland. some icy conditions the conditions possible here and the showers turn wintry. some showers will turn wintry. some snow the higher routes for snow on the higher routes for sure through the night and first thing in the morning. elsewhere though, bright and breezy though, it's a bright and breezy kind of day. some early rain of course, should be gone by course, kent should be gone by sunrise and then generally, as i said, a fine day with more sunshine than today. showers will come into will continue to come into western of scotland and western parts of scotland and temperatures will be lower than today. temperatures will be lower than today . won't be mild, but today. won't be as mild, but these pretty close to these numbers pretty close to these numbers pretty close to the average for time of year the average for the time of year . bit cold on friday . turning a bit cold on friday night some pockets night in the south, some pockets of possible on saturday of frost possible on saturday again , outbreaks of rain across again, outbreaks of rain across the northwest of scotland. quite windy saturday too, the windy here on saturday too, the breeze picking up elsewhere in the west. a bit more cloud, perhaps still perhaps on saturday, but still for it looks largely dry

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>> you with gb news? good evening. the main story tonight. the mother of the murdered teenager barnaby webber , says teenager barnaby webber, says nottinghamshire police have

blood on their hands after her son's killer was sent to a high security psychiatric hospital rather than prison . 32 year old rather than prison. 32 year old waldo callachan was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia when he killed university students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar and school caretaker ian coates in june last year , he pleaded not guilty last year, he pleaded not guilty to murder due to his mental condition, but did admit manslaughter. speak outside the court. the victim's family said the triple killer had made a mockery of the system and got away with murder . away with murder. >> the failures from the police , >> the failures from the police, the cps, the health service have resulted in the murder of my father and these two innocent students . the nhs mental health students. the nhs mental health trust have to be held accountable for their failures. along with the police. all we can do is hope that in due course, some sort of justice will be served. this man has made a mockery of the system and he has got away with murder . he has got away with murder. >> meanwhile, the government has

been defending