fri day. >> friday. >> it's 3 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. now very shortly to kick things off, we hear live things off, we will hear live from manager jurgen from liverpool managerjurgen klopp. , we're going klopp. in fact, we're going there now. here's there right now. here's jurgen klopp . klopp. >> if you could raise your hand , >> if you could raise your hand, integrated gas and then turn selected, please let us know who you are and which company you representing. >> keith ewing good afternoon . >> keith ewing good afternoon. >> keith ewing good afternoon. >> good to see you. >> um , you love your football. >> um, you love your football. >> um, you love your football. >> you love the club. you love liverpool. so why are you so convinced this is the right decision for you.7 >> decision for you? >> oh, i thought i said that in the. >> and the other. what is it statement or interview or whatever we had . um with . all whatever we had. um with. all the responsibility you have in this job and, and these kind of things, you have to be absolute top of your own game. that's how it um, but i'm it is. and i am, um, but i'm doing this for 24 years now. and i said that before when you have

the career i have had or have i want to see that , um, it's want to see that, um, it's pretty much impossible to start where i start and, and arrive at liverpool. but if it's , if it liverpool. but if it's, if it becomes possible, then it's just because you absolute invested everything you had and that's what i always did. and it was never a problem. and i realised, um , that this is that my, my, um, that this is that my, my, my, my resources are not endless . and, um, i preferred to, to pack absolutely everything in this season and then , um , have this season and then, um, have a break or whatever or have to stop and these kind of things because you realise that yourself, you're in a similar age. it's, um, we are no young rabbits anymore, and we don't jump rabbits anymore, and we don't jump as high as we. we did. and all these kind of things. and that's , um, that's how it is . that's, um, that's how it is. and that's why i. and it was

not. i didn't think about it on purpose . and let's have a think purpose. and let's have a think of how would it be. it just happened. and then i started thinking about it and that was the moment when i knew , um , this the moment when i knew, um, this club , especially with the team club, especially with the team we have with all the, the, the. the super things we have in this club, this club needs on top of that, a manager and its top game , um, and it's top level and when i cannot be that anymore, then i have to tell the people that 100, the other situation would have we go in the would have been we go in the next season i realised and next season and i realised and then it before and get then i knew it before and get into it and try to get somehow through that's not how it through it. that's not how it should be. and that's why i, i told the club the decision and my coach is the decision. and and since today everybody knows it um, and that's it. that i love everything so much and i think everybody believes me that

it's the case. i still think it's the case. i still think it's the case. i still think it's the right thing to do. can i tell you i, i it's the right thing to do. can itell you i, i don't it's the right thing to do. can i tell you i, i don't take these kind of things lightly. so i'm convinced it's right. and that's why i said it. thank you. >> tom, i see you're going. >> tom, i see you're going. >> it's obviously a big announcement. what are your emotions today? >> how do you feel? a sense of sadness or perhaps wimereux? >> yeah , it's the relief. >> yeah, it's the relief. >> yeah, it's the relief. >> was there when i made a decision for myself, to be honest, that was another thing i realised. so i didn't know that, that it would would be the case. but it was like that. um today it's mixed. it's mixed, but it's. i'm not as emotional as i will be when it comes to an end. finally uh, because i spoke today to the players. so let me say the two important things i had to do was to tell our our our . of had to do was to tell our our our. of course i have to tell the owners. that's clear. but then to tell our supporters and to tell the players and i don't know what direction , but the

know what direction, but the direction of the players was, was, was top . just, um, it was was, was top. just, um, it was really good. we know each other so long, um, that they know. i don't say things like that and walk away or stuff like this. so i am here and i'm fully here. and by the way, today i answer 500,000 questions if you want , 500,000 questions if you want, but that's it then. so until the end of the season, because we have so many other things to do and i'm fully in that, i'm fully in that. so there's not a lot of emotion here. i had a lot of some talks the last days when to i had tell other people slightly earlier, then i tell the public, um, and were some tears um, and there were some tears and this, um, and stuff like this, but, um, that's normal. after such a long time together . uh, but besides time together. uh, but besides that , it's time together. uh, but besides that, it's just the right thing to do . and i'm convinced as to do. and i'm convinced as well, in the right moment, because the club needs time to, um, to plan the future while we are sorting the present. and, um, and that's exactly what will

happen now . and from that point happen now. and from that point of view, the emotions will come up. relief is not there as well anymore because i, i knew before how i feel about it. um, yeah . how i feel about it. um, yeah. juue how i feel about it. um, yeah. julie julia from bbc radio merseyside , when you spoke to merseyside, when you spoke to the players and they asked you the players and they asked you the question is probably that we're all asking today how did you ensure with them or what was the message about making sure this isn't a distraction because you're still fighting on four fronts? the players didn't have a lot of questions. i spoke to the players altogether and i spoke a few players. after spoke to a few players. after that. the players we are really we have strong bond, we have a really strong bond, a really strong bond. so they didn't ask questions yet, but there's no question because we are professionals and the agreement we have with the team from both sides is you agree, for one year. so after that everything can happen. if the manager during the year, the manager during the year, the manager can get the sack, but the players usually the agreement we have from a club point of view for one year, even

after 5 or 6 year contract, because after year you play much better than the player wants a new contract. you play not as good want, and the club good as you want, and the club might want sell but for might want to sell you. but for a usually you real a year, usually you have a real agreement and are completely agreement and we are completely in that year and um, the boys are boys see it exactly are and the boys see it exactly like that. we had like that. i think we had cameras there for the cameras out there for the training session after that, and you see boys are in a you could see the boys are in a really good mood. and it was not that was that were, that there was that there were, um, getting and, and having a um, getting up and, and having a party them. but it party when i told them. but it was just, it was just an announcement. i told them that the, the it's different to other situations. usually when a manager is in a dressing room, he talks about that he got sacked and just says goodbye. and um, that wouldn't have happened here because of the things we reached with each other and achieved with each other and achieved with each other . and that's why my other. and that's why my response was so was so big in that, that i have to constantly always think about and have a review is it still right?

because there was no chance we had last year's situation in the season. i think a lot of managers would have got the sack because we had a really bad spell and 3 or 4 years ago and all these of things, it was all these kind of things, it was never any intention to do that. and that always led my responsibility grow grow responsibility grow and grow and grow to make sure, okay, when it's not right anymore. i have to tell because nobody else will tell. um and that's what i said to the players as well. besides that, the disruption, i understand it's i think a lot of, um, people from the outside who are not with us, uh, we'll be happy , blah, blah, blah, be happy, blah, blah, blah, stuff like this. um, it's your job to ask questions , job to ask questions, uncomfortable questions, whatever that instruction comes from outside and but to get distracted, you always need two parts. one who distracts and the other one who let it happen. and we will not let it happen. so that's the plan. and if you want, we can grow even more together in this situation . and together in this situation. and that's 100% the aim of the

players and me and how we said to try to squeeze everything out of that season, we don't know. there's no guarantee there was before, no guarantee that we will win anything this season. and there is no guarantee. and there is now no guarantee. but just the fact that i said i will be the manager for next will not be the manager for next year an excuse to do year is not an excuse to do a step less or whatever. so we will be completely in it and we will be completely in it and we will fight for everything. i'm here with 100% and that's a good news. i just now i cannot do the job in the future, but i can do it very well. um, right now and that's what i, um , will do . when that's what i, um, will do. when we have any role to play in deciding who your successor is, what will you have? >> were you advised or why should i? >> so that's very important. look, in that in this world and we have a few in football especially, you have a few faces. most of the time as the manager of the club and, um,

people, people like billy or others who do an incredible job, you don't see that often. so that's just how you live this kind of business in terms slightly different. here it slightly different. but here it is like that. so it looks is like that. so that it looks like i all the work, like that. i do all the work, i don't i don't, i can't and i don't, and that means all the what we build over the last eight and a half years is an incredibly strong structure. behind the scenes . so everything behind the scenes. so everything goesin behind the scenes. so everything goes in the right direction. so that's a good news. that's one of the reasons why i can leave, because responsibility. my response is so big. my idea was always to put everything in place and help with everything that that this club gets stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and we did that to perfection. no as as we perfection. no but as good as we could. um that means so many people work here and will, with only one idea to find a perfect solution. >> we are crossing now to the london clinic where queen camilla is due to give a statement on king charles's prostate treatment. >> we're crossing live now .

martin. >> queen camilla has just exited the london clinic earlier today with his majesty the king, who is having treatment for an enlarged prostate. her majesty was smiling as she exited the building and she is just driving off now, presumably back to clarence elf giving a little bit of a wave to the media. the >> is what we're expecting to be the end of the visit today and just heading back. >> we don't need anything more . >> we don't need anything more. >> we don't need anything more. >> if i can ask you to please either leave. you've got everything you need or to move the media pen on the far side of malabo road for the private, for the patients, doctors of us. >> uh, obviously that had been spent board, spent around the board, particularly, also the main particularly, but also the main engine if you don't even i >> -- >> okay. back to studio now. >> okay. back to studio now. >> so queen camilla just left the london clinic she'd been visiting . king charles, of visiting. king charles, of course, has had treatment . there course, has had treatment. there have been very open about this

treatment which has seen a huge rise in the numbers of men looking at the nhs website on prostate issues , there's been a prostate issues, there's been a fantastically positive moment in the royal family's history . the royal family's history. we're expecting camilla to give a statement there, but that didn't happen. not to worry, we were assured the king is recovering well and, um, fantastic news all round , but fantastic news all round, but we've a huge show ahead . we've got a huge show ahead. apart from jurgen klopp, curtains for klopp will of course be returning to that story the show. and story throughout the show. and of cameron over of course cameron walker is over at the london clinic as soon as we know more information about king charles, his health and camilla's course camilla's visit, we'll of course put that over to you. live as the story breaks. but moving on to the show, back in the studio here, it's also a huge day in politics. um, we have chris hope in the studio here. chris, let's get on to the political stories of the day. so this week it's all about the plot to sink sunak there's been some polling coming out which seems to be very red meaty. it's saying nigel farage

perhaps could be a future leader of the conservative party, and the polls have raised a few eyebrows. who's behind them? >> who's funding it? >> who's funding it? >> we still don't know all about? that's right martin, that's last. >> last week was it this mrp poll from yougov? we still don't know who know, don't know who's behind it that prompted this, this, uh, extraordinary article this, uh, extraordinary article this week in alongside more polling from the mrp. uh polling from yougov in which we heard sir simon clarke say it's time for the pm rishi sunak to stand down and we thought, who's going to follow him? well no one's followed him. it's almost fizzled out. then we have yesterday. of course we have penny mordaunt, who's leader of the commons, setting the house of commons, setting out rishi sunak out why she thinks rishi sunak is a man who believes in britain is a man who believes in britain is story, should is a great british story, should be supported by people today we've interviewed richard holden, who's the tory party chairman today. of course today when people receive when millions of people receive the cut in the benefit of the 2% cut in national insurance , um, he's national insurance, um, he's been us, quite been talking to us, quite frankly , about threat from

frankly, about the threat from reform and reform uk, given how close they are in the polls. you're points behind them you're six points behind them now have to say , surrounds. >> um, obviously, you know , any >> um, obviously, you know, any application will be considered on merits and no then no , on its merits and no then no, it's definitely not. uh, polls bounce around. um, i remember , bounce around. um, i remember, you know, in the, in just in hartlepool , uh, you know, in hartlepool, uh, you know, in 2019, um, my colleague down the road didn't get in because richard tice was because , well, richard tice was because, well, richard tice was because, well, richard tice was because, well, richard tice came third, right. um in that election and he cost the conservatives that seat. and, you know, a majority of 1100 inches north west durham . 1100 inches north west durham. um, it was pretty close to the brexit party at that point . brexit party at that point. could have cost me my seat as well. and it's and i don't quite understand, you know, i'm not quite sure whether, whether policy is coming from which at the basically the the moment is basically cost the conservatives a majority. i've seen some of those polling numbers put labour in. numbers as well. put labour in. i mean, that doesn't seem like what a lot of people who might be considering a who to vote for at the moment. um, but they're not voting for labour. i don't

want just just yes or want to see and just just yes or no. 110. >> no. >> the em- no. >> the rishi sunak will lead >> the pm rishi sunak will lead your party the next election. your party in the next election. oh, absolutely. >> and there's doubt about >> and there's no doubt about that. >> e- e right. well, that. >> right. well, that's, >> that's right. well, that's, uh, who's uh, richard holden, who's the chairman the party at the chairman of the party at the beginning, i should when he beginning, i should say, when he said any application will be considered his merits. said considered on his merits. i said to nigel farage join to him, could nigel farage join your party? so his answer there was they'll at the merits was they'll look at the merits of application. dot, of his application. yeah. dot, dot accept it dot dot, whether they accept it or i don't know. they're or not, i don't know. they're trying to a bit of footsie trying to play a bit of footsie with farage at the moment because he's doing his because they know he's doing his old party of course, old party reform. of course, he's honorary president of that party, party is party, but he that party is doing very well. and the view is were he to declare for reform uk could points to could add maybe six points to the polling of pushing the polling of reform, pushing them where the them quite close to where the tories are in second place. >> that's right. and fact >> that's right. and the fact that the conservatives are having to talk about reform all the that they're the time shows that they're having a real impact. 13% the latest toll could rise latest poll toll could rise considerably that man farage considerably if that man farage came to this thing came back, back to this thing about involvement about the lord frost involvement . so lord frost in the piece in

the times today, the threatened to remove his whip if it's discovered that tory donors have been backing all of these polls, which seem to be pushing reform forward or at least saying we've got to get rid of sunak, we need to replace him with true to replace him with a true conservative native and the buck is being passed to the brexit negotiator for the no man, as we used to call him, because he was so stern in brussels. we loved him when we were out there. um with the brexit party, the brexit party, because we thought he's he's doing the he's doing the he's doing the bidding. he the bidding bidding. is he doing the bidding ? accusations here for ? the accusations are here for potentially rival potentially for a rival which could him. potentially for a rival which cou he's him. potentially for a rival which cou he's problem is he was >> he's problem is he was fronting up this. gov poll fronting up this. you gov poll in telegraph last week which in the telegraph last week which talked about now rishi or talked about act. now rishi or face a 97 997 style wipe—out i understand that nick true who's the top person in the lords on the top person in the lords on the tory party. he's talking to frost . a concern they've got is frost. a concern they've got is if he's seen to be acting with reform uk, not tory donors, but reform uk, not tory donors, but reform uk, not tory donors, but reform uk , he could lose the reform uk, he could lose the whip and that's where we are. it's nothing to do with donors. it's nothing to do with donors. it's acting it's about whether he's acting

for political um, for another political party. um, but heard indications but we have heard indications there our interview today there in our interview today with rich, richard holden . there with rich, richard holden. there could more of that later in could be more of that later in the year in terms of tax cuts. could be more of that later in thewe ar in terms of tax cuts. could be more of that later in thewe ar liki'iowis of tax cuts. could be more of that later in thewe ar i|know there's< cuts. could be more of that later in thewe ar i|know there's taxts. could be more of that later in thewe ar i|know there's tax cuts so we all know there's tax cuts in march budget . yeah. in the march budget. yeah. suggestion there be suggestion there might be something similar not guaranteed. playing it guaranteed. they're playing it down in the autumn okay down now in the autumn okay chris thank you. >> interview aslef chris thank you. >> got interview aslef chris thank you. >> got more|terview aslef chris thank you. >> got more to view aslef chris thank you. >> got more to gow aslef chris thank you. >> got more to go into lef chris thank you. >> got more to go into inf i've got lots more to go into in that in the next hour. but we have to move on now because i'm joined the conservative mp joined by the conservative mp for stone, sir bill. cash, sir. bill, to gb news bill, welcome to gb news the godfather of brexit. it's a pleasure to have you on the show. and on that topic, another brexit big figure, lord frost is in the news threatening to remove the whip from him potentially today sir, because he's been involved with the reform party. they're saying i don't think that's true . is he don't think that's true. is he behind highly improbable to me. >> i mean, the one thing i would say about reform is that actually they haven't got a single member of parliament. uh, you need to have a majority on

every single vote in the house of commons to change even one comma, let alone a line of legislation . a whole majority of legislation. a whole majority of the house of commons. so it's completely unrealistic for anybody to suppose that between now and the next general election, anything that reform do is actually going to have any impact at all on what goes on in parliament itself , because you parliament itself, because you have to have a majority . and have to have a majority. and afterwards , if they were to have afterwards, if they were to have any members of parliament, it still wouldn't be a majority. and that is all really part of the big problem that's going on at the moment, which is that although there are many things that people criticise the conservative party for , the conservative party for, the reality is that most of it came from covid in the ukraine energy crisis, which sent up the cost of living and mortgages. i understand it, we understand that. but i have to say that the idea that reform is going to become, uh , uh, anywhere, become, uh, uh, anywhere,

anywhere near being able to do anything about keir starmer , anything about keir starmer, apart from handing him victory , apart from handing him victory, uh, is a complete, completely relevance. i mean, they just simply can't do it. however that doesn't mean to say that everything that is going on right now is perfect because it isn't . and a lot of people are isn't. and a lot of people are very critical about certain aspects of it. but i think we do need to have a sense of proportion here. and to be realistic that reform are not going to take over. and farage is not going to prime is not going to be prime minister of anything . minister of anything. >> did you ever consider defecting yourself, bill, to reform? no not at all. >> um, i have no desire or intention or thought about it. it's never crossed my mind. quite the opposite. and actually, although there are i mean, having led the maastricht rebellion , having actually been rebellion, having actually been involved in all the european issues right the way through from over the last 40 years

since i've been in parliament, um, i've been at the forefront of this for a very long time. i've tried to do it in a constitutional manner , to make constitutional manner, to make sure that we get the arguments out there and to try and make sure that people , uh, respond sure that people, uh, respond accordingly. we did get brexit. that was, of course , done that was, of course, done through a conservative government with a massive majority in 2019. and i don't want to go around criticising people. it's not so much that it's just the fact that if it's a serious business, who governs the country, do you want to govern by a council of ministers in europe, which is basically a, um, by majority vote behind closed doors, without even a transcript like hansard or do you want to have your own voters , your people, your country voting in general elections in order to get enough people to be able to command a majority in the house of commons? that is the house of commons? that is the key thing. that's what we've been achieving. there are things

that we need to improve, but bafic that we need to improve, but basic early brexit is an enormous success democratically and look at the mess that they're in in europe . they're in in europe. >> well, sir bill, do you fear now though, that having had an 80 seat majority and having got brexit done, or perhaps it wasn't entirely done, now we're staring down the barrel of a keir starmer government. might he try to get brexit undone ? he try to get brexit undone? >> well, there's a lot of talk about this and a lot of contradiction going on inside the labour party about this . the labour party about this. >> there are real remainers and when i mean remainers, i mean people who actually are rejoiners . that's the word i rejoiners. that's the word i prefer to use . they would like prefer to use. they would like to rejoin . actually, to do that, to rejoin. actually, to do that, i won't go into the boring detail because it is a bit boring, but actually to achieve that does mean that you've got to do an enormous amount of legislative change because what we've done since we left is to establish a position whereby, for example , uh, parliamentary for example, uh, parliamentary sovereignty is completely

guaranteed under the withdrawal act. um, and also we've made an enormous amount of progress in terms of , uh, getting enormous amount of progress in terms of, uh, getting rid of european law making, although that's got to be improved. my committee, the european scrutiny committee, are actually giving a report on that soon. and we wrote a letter to the secretary of state only yesterday about this. got to be improved. this. it's got to be improved. it's got to stepped up. but it's got to be stepped up. but in terms of is europe, uh, going to benefit a bit from, uh, the way in which they're running their asylum and migration policy? they're all completely under the cosh . they're tearing under the cosh. they're tearing their hair out in europe. they're having compulsory quotas and compulsory fines imposed on them by majority vote . and them by majority vote. and countries. i was in madrid the other day to talking leaders of all the national parliamentary european committees , and they're european committees, and they're absolutely tearing their hair out because they're having it imposed on them. and it's by majority vote. they've also got the charter of fundamental

rights . and then, of course, on rights. and then, of course, on top of that, the european court of human rights as well, which as far as i'm concerned , uh, is as far as i'm concerned, uh, is creating a lot of problems for us but we have the power us too. but we have the power within own parliament within our own parliament through our sovereignty. if the words in a statute are clear and un ambiguous to actually bypass the problems presented by the european convention. okay we have to leave it there. >> thank you forjoining us, >> thank you for joining us, sir. bill cash, always a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you very much. now, the last few minutes, the queen has left the london clinic where the king is being treated for an enlarged let's enlarged prostate. and let's speak royal speak now to our royal correspondents, cameron walker. cameron, latest ? cameron, what's all the latest? >> yeah. martin as you said, the queen was all smiles, actually, as she left the back of the london clinic. she arrived with his majesty the king earlier this morning. who is having treatments for an enlarged prostate. many journalists are asking her majesty questions . as asking her majesty questions. as she left. she did not answer any

of them, but she left with a smile and gave us all a wave as she was driven off in her car. as we know, the king, as i said, is having treatment for an enlarged, uh, prostate. it's not known how long the king is actually going to be in hospital for. not sure exactly for. we're also not sure exactly what treatments he is receiving, but the queen appeared in pretty good spirits as she left the hospital here. of course . uh, hospital here. of course. uh, the princess of wales is also in the princess of wales is also in the same building. she had abdominal surgery , um, earlier abdominal surgery, um, earlier last week . and it's understood last week. and it's understood that both the king and queen camilla visited her royal highness ahead of the king's own surgery today. a statement from buckingham palace this morning read that his majesty would like to thank all those who have sent their good wishes over the past week and is delighted to learn that diagnosis is having that his diagnosis is having a positive impact on public health awareness. now, it is rare for the king to disclose his private medical details, and it's thought that he wanted to do so

to try and encourage other men his age or a similar age to check their symptoms and get help from a medical health professional if necessary . he professional if necessary. he and the nhs website kind of exploded with people searching information for similar conditions to his majesty the king. the princess of wales is expected to spend three months or so convalescing in windsor. the king isn't expected to spend quite so long a in hospital and be convalescing . he was actually be convalescing. he was actually undertaking engagements , private undertaking engagements, private engagements yesterday at sandringham house before returning to london last night. but his engagements are post—op andindeed but his engagements are post—op and indeed a few days after to have either been cancelled or postponed. the queen perhaps, will keep calm and carry on. she's already left the hospital. prince william and princess catherine are still going to be out for some time, so it looks like all four senior members of the family at the moment the royal family at the moment are undertaking public are not undertaking any public engagements . but so in terms of engagements. but so in terms of a slimmed down monarchy, it

appears very slim indeed. this fri day. >> friday. >> cameron walker at the london clinic and of course we wish his majesty a speedy recovery. now 400 migrants are being evicted from a london hotel and you might have guessed people are protesting about it and the immigrants themselves are moaning about it too. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

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election . channel. election. channel. >> welcome back. it's 329. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now, later this hour i'll have news of the international court of justice has ruled on israel. but before that, a group of protesters have been gathering outside a hotel in north—east london over the last 24 hours, as around 400 migrants are to be removed from their accommodation . the home office has been housing people inside the ibis hotel in waltham , stow, for an hotel in waltham, stow, for an astonishing two years, while they wait for their asylum claims to be processed. but last week, residents were sent a letter saying that their rooms would no longer be available from today. well, gb news national reporter theo chikomba is in walthamstow, right now. theo, welcome to the show. what's the latest on this astonishing eviction in? >> yes, well, a handful of those 400 people have left at the accommodation here in

walthamstow . walthamstow. >> so just over my left shoulder this is the ibis hotel building. and if we just take a swivel around , we can see just on the around, we can see just on the right here. we've also got another building . so there's 400 another building. so there's 400 people, some of them staying this side and others on that side. but as you say, the home office have been working with the contracting company called clearsprings, and they have been housing these people here for some time now . of course, today some time now. of course, today they had a deadline of 9 am, but we've only seen a handful of them leave so far. a family, a mother with her children left few hours ago, but it seems most of them are still in the accommodation here and it's not quite clear whether or not they're going to be leaving today, or if at all. now the council in this area are waltham forest council. their leader is saying this is disappointing from government because they had been told initially that these people will be able to stay here until around april. but of course we are in january. a few

months before april, and they were given that deadline just last week , thursday, and that last week, thursday, and that they would having to leave they would be having to leave today, but only as i say, a handful of them have left so far. the big issue over the last couple of months is that hotels like this are costing taxpayers around £8 million a day, not just here, but in various parts of london and around the country, where asylum seeking people are having to stay as they try and regain rig and, you know, find other ways of living and making sure their children are in school or getting jobs and things like that. but of course, having to move around is an issue that they're having to face particularly. that's what the protesters here have been saying. look they're having to move around. it feels like they're a yo—yo. that's what one person described. this situation to us. this morning. but of course, for now they are staying here. and of course , how much here. and of course, how much longer they will stay here is that question. considering the amount that they're having to pay amount that they're having to

pay uk taxpayers £8 million a day? okay theo chikomba, thank you very much. >> two years rent free in a london hotel. a treat few taxpayers can afford. one of the asylum seekers has been moved to somerset, said it's too far away. i'm really disappointed and upset. well, what about the poor old taxpayer now ? there's poor old taxpayer now? there's still lots more to come between now and 4:00. i'll bring you the shocking news that triple killer voodoo calocane could be released . in just three years. released. in just three years. astonishing but first, here's your latest news headlines with sam francis . martin thank you sam francis. martin thank you very much. >> and good afternoon. from the gb news room. >> the headlines just after half past three. well there may be more tax cuts to come before a general in the autumn . general election in the autumn. it this month's it follows this month's reduction in national insurance contributions , with the contributions, with the government claiming it save government claiming it will save people around £450 a year. the

tory party chairman, richard holden , told gb news earlier holden, told gb news earlier that workers will feel the benefits . benefits. >> well, we're coming out of that very tough period and we're able to outline our plans for the future. i think the actual tax cut you mentioned the national insurance cut for working people is the start of that. we'll see more of that in march more of it later in march and more of it later in the year as well . but we have the year as well. but we have that new direction of travel, which is clear and in other news, jurgen klopp it's news, jurgen klopp says it's time to after he's time to rest after he's announced he's stepping down as liverpool's manager end liverpool's manager at the end of this season. >> liverpool was transformed under leadership, winning under his leadership, winning six including six trophies including the premier league in 2020. that was their first in 30 years and the champions league a year before. speaking to reporters this afternoon, he said there'll be plenty a transition plenty of time for a transition with responsibility you with all the responsibility you have in this job and these kind of things, you have to be absolutely on top of your own game. >> that's how it is. and i am, um, but i'm doing this for 24 years now. i realised, um, that

this is that my, my resources are not endless . are not endless. >> queen camilla has been to visit the king this afternoon as he undergoes treatment for an enlarged prostate. but she was seen leaving the london clinic with buckingham palace saying his to his majesty is delighted to learn diagnosis is learn that his diagnosis is having a positive impact on pubuc having a positive impact on public health awareness. the king is also understood to have visited the of wales , visited the princess of wales, who from abdominal who is recovering from abdominal surgery . the average monthly surgery. the average monthly rent for a home outside of london is at a record high of nearly £1,300 a month, rightmove says agents are typically receiving around 11 inquiries for every rental property on the market. the website predicts that rents will be 5% higher outside london by the end of this year, and up by 3% in the caphal this year, and up by 3% in the capital. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , gbnews.com .

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responsibility of barnaby weber. grace o'malley kumar and ian coates last year. the families of the three people have criticised prosecutors for accepting a manslaughter charge rather than pursuing a murder verdict. and i'm joined now in our studio by our political correspondent catherine forsa . correspondent catherine forsa. catherine, yesterday the families were saying that the calocane had escaped murder , calocane had escaped murder, trialled by doctors. they felt cheated, they felt let down. they cannot believe it. and then today , they simply gets worse . today, they simply gets worse. >> it's quite incredible, isn't it? because yesterday we heard that he will probably spend and the rest of his life in a high security hospital. note the use of the word probably no guarantee there. but today we discover that under the mental health act , discover that under the mental health act, he will be discover that under the mental health act , he will be entitled health act, he will be entitled to a review every three years and could request it every year. a review of his mental state and

if they thought that he was no longer a threat to the public, that he was of sound mind , they that he was of sound mind, they could potentially recommend send him to be released. now ultimately, the justice secretary would be able to block that. secretary would be able to block that . i'm not secretary would be able to block that. i'm not suggesting it's going to happen , but these poor going to happen, but these poor people that have lost their children, that have lost their father in the most horrific of circumstance , his failures by circumstance, his failures by the police , failures by the nhs the police, failures by the nhs and failures, it seems by the cps. and now to hear , to have cps. and now to hear, to have that hanging over them that they have got no guarantee of whether this man will spend the rest of his life locked away or not. and even that his his potential release could be reviewed. you know , having that hanging over know, having that hanging over them just really adds insult to already huge injury, doesn't it, catherine? >> it's worth just repeating a couple of the statements made by the relatives just to underline this latest injustice . grace's

this latest injustice. grace's father, sanjoy , yesterday father, sanjoy, yesterday outside nottingham crown court, said this we will never come to terms with the loss of our daughter grace. we've been through absolute hell. ian coates, her son james, added this man has made a mockery of the system and he has got away with murder . the system and he has got away with murder. this the system and he has got away with murder . this system being with murder. this system being made a mockery of by the charge, the sentence and now this latest revolution simply must be a dagger through the hearts. that's a terrible metaphor. this is a terrible thing to force upon families who are in deep, deep grieving and asking big questions about how many times this guy was not picked up by nottinghamshire constabulary, who yesterday they said had blood on their hands. >> yes, it seems like there's been multiple failures, doesn't it? the crown prosecution service and emma webber, barnaby mother, said yesterday that they'd been given to understand he would be tried for murder and they understood that for some five months it was only like a

day or so before the pre—trial heanng day or so before the pre—trial hearing that they were told they weren't involved, but they were informed that it would be manslaughter. she felt that it was rushed. he said that they were railroaded . um, in terms of were railroaded. um, in terms of the police, she accused the head of police of having blood on his hands because we now know that this man had violently assaulted a police officer. there had been a police officer. there had been a warrant out for his arrest. the head of police admitting now that, yes, they should have done more, and also the nhs , the more, and also the nhs, the mental health services . this was mental health services. this was a man that had been sectioned four times. he was out in the community. it was essential that he was taking his anti—psychotic medication for his paranoid schizophrenia and, um , instead schizophrenia and, um, instead he had basically disengaged. he wasn't taking his medication. and in fact , the mental health, and in fact, the mental health, uh, the organised nation discharged him back to the gp because he hadn't engaged. so they effectively washed their

hands of him at a time when clearly not being on medication meant that he was a potential dangen >> and he was on warrant for nine months. he was wanted for assaulting an emergency worker so badly he had to be tasered . so badly he had to be tasered. and the previous allegation that he'd assaulted a flatmate while a student. but there were some comfort, some hope. this morning when there was talk of a potential review of his sentence, the attorney general getting involved. but to be clear, catherine, there's no power to overturn the sentence or to beef it up, is there? >> it could be increased, potentially . so what's happening potentially. so what's happening now is the attorney general, victoria prentis, has got a month to look at it along with her legal team. if they feel that they think the sentence was unduly lenient, that they think the sentence was unduly lenient , they will refer unduly lenient, they will refer it to the court of appeal. and then the judges there will consider order. um, whether it could be beefed up, it does happen about 100 times a year. that sentences are increased . of that sentences are increased. of course, none of this would write

any of the terrible wrongs and interesting now that sir keir starmer, leader of the opposition , calling for a full opposition, calling for a full inquiry, he said, um , i'm very inquiry, he said, um, i'm very worried by what appears to be a number of points at which action could have been taken that would have prevented this happening. the family are saying there needs an inquiry into this needs to be an inquiry into this , and i think that they are right now , number currently right now, number 10, currently not committing to that. they're just saying the police , the nhs, just saying the police, the nhs, the cps need to look very carefully at what actions they did or didn't take and learn lessons, but my goodness, it just the most horrendous event last year and i think we all remember hearing it. the absolute horror these three people who were out early in the morning, 219 year old students just sat their exams relaxing, coming back from a night out. and this caretaker , who had his and this caretaker, who had his whole retirement just in front of him , supposedly, and they had of him, supposedly, and they had their futures snatched away. and

it does feel certainly to the parents and i suspect a lot of people hearing about this case, that they have been massively, massively failed. >> yeah, the life sentence for the families are just beginning. at least these crimes happened on streets i grew up on, literally . ian coates was literally. ian coates was murdered, um, street behind murdered, um, a street behind where grew up as a child, where i grew up as a child, where i grew up as a child, where the nightclub they went to. i used to go to those those kids, the streets, they were killed. i'm very, very killed. and i'm very, very familiar a story familiar with. this is a story that's very, struck. dark that's very, very struck. a dark shadow the city of shadow over the city of nottingham. and i find it incredible that the family have been forced to go through this andinsuh been forced to go through this and insult after insult. yesterday in outside the yesterday in tears outside the court. now this, this final court. and now this, this final insult. thank you, katherine forster. thank you very much. i've move on now. the i've got to move on now. the migrant has the migrant crisis has become the biggest ahead this biggest issue ahead of this year's us presidential election and 25 republican state governors are backing texas in their battle with joe biden over their battle with joe biden over the mexican border. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

the people's channel, britain's news channel . welcome back. news channel. welcome back. >> 346. now i've got some breaking news here. the pa news agency is reporting sources have said that the king has undergone his treatment for enlarged prostate quotes. is doing prostate and quotes. is doing well just to repeat that, pa news is reporting, sources said the king has undergone his treatment for an enlarged prostate and is doing well . get

prostate and is doing well. get well soon, his majesty , now the well soon, his majesty, now the international court of justice has ordered israel to take steps to prevent genocide in gaza, but has stopped short of calling for a ceasefire south africa brought the case of the un's top court claiming israel's response to the 7th of october attacks is in breach of the un's genocide convention. israel now have one month to respond to the hague based court and i'm joined now to discuss this by our security edhon to discuss this by our security editor, mark white. mark welcome to the show. so the court has found against israel, it seems, but they're stopping short of a ceasefire. what was the point of the trial? >> well, it's a case that israel says should never have been brought to the international court of justice in the first place. that much of what south africa is alleging is politically motivated , and politically motivated, and they've dismissed it outright . they've dismissed it outright. but they say that out of militaries right around the world, they are the only one

really, that takes extra ordinary measures such as dropping leaflets to warn people about about impending strikes, telling , warning, about about impending strikes, telling, warning, uh, individuals up in an area where a strike is going to take place to warn them to get out of the area. all so firing these percussion on, uh, uh , charges percussion on, uh, uh, charges as well that go down onto the roofs of buildings as well, warning people of an impending strike. and of course, the humanitarian corridors . and what humanitarian corridors. and what they say is that there are, of course, civilian casualties. but the reason they say there are civilian casualties is because hamas cynically exploits the local civilian population to put its terrorist infrastructure in amongst those civilian areas . amongst those civilian areas. but the international court of justice still said that the case brought by south africa was plausible, and that will mean at some point a more substantive investigation that could run

into years . well, this is what into years. well, this is what the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, said on the charge of genocide levelled against israel is not only false, it's outrageous and decent people everywhere should reject it . reject it. >> on the eve of the international holocaust remembrance day, i again pledge, as israel's prime minister never again israel will continue to defend itself against hamas as a genocidal terror organisation . genocidal terror organisation. on october 7th, hamas perpetrated the most horrific atrocities against the jewish people since the holocaust and it vows to repeat these atrocities again and again and again . again. >> well , the international court >> well, the international court of justice has given a number of stipulations that have been handed down that they want israel to abide to by, ensure that there is no risk of genocide. they also want israel to do much more to allow humanitarian aid into gaza. but

crucially , as i say, the crucially, as i say, the international court of justice stopping short of that being called by south africa to call for an immediate ceasefire >> okay. thank you , mark white >> okay. thank you, mark white for that update . now yesterday for that update. now yesterday i spoke about the united states migrant crisis because the governor of texas, greg abbott , governor of texas, greg abbott, has strengthened the mexican border by installing 30 miles of razor wire. the supreme court has ordered for it to be removed . but now 25 state governors have sided with texas and against joe biden. well, i'm joined now to discuss this by sebastian gorka, who, of course, is the former white house adviser to president donald trump. thank you forjoining us trump. thank you for joining us on the show. sebastia always a pleasure. this is an astonishing case. a mexican standoff literally , where greg abbott has literally, where greg abbott has basically cried enough. they've taken control of their borders, put them on a collision course

with joe biden. what's the latest on this amazing story? >> yeah, it's an action that had to be taken by governor abbott because when we left the white house, when biden and his obama holdover team came in, they dismantled everything we did to secure the border. >> today. i know you have your issues with immigration in the uk and the people coming on the boats, but right now we have upwards of 12,000 illegals coming every single day. that's a crisis . and texas said we have a crisis. and texas said we have to do something about it. if the federal forces refuse , then federal forces refuse, then we're going to send our national guard, and that's what they've done, and save an astonishing developed as well from donald trump himself posted on truth social media. >> we encourage all willing states to deploy their guards to texas to prevent the entry of illegals and to remove them back

across the border. so trump encouraged other states if he were president, presumably to go and help texas. what on earth is joe biden going to do about this situation . situation. >> well, look, we are in a unique position because america is a republic of states. it's a unique system . and each one of unique system. and each one of those states has a governor and each one of those states has a constitution option. and in this case, texas, amongst other states along the border, have declared an invasion. an invasion facility facilitated by the biden administration. just the biden administration. just the sheer numbers are shocking. in the last three years of the biden regime that we know of, 8 million illegal immigrants have been allowed across. not only are they allowed into america by the federal agents of customs

and border protection , they're and border protection, they're given $5,000 of spending money that come through foundations that come through foundations that are funded by taxpayers. they are given a government funded cell phone and then asked , where would you like to live ? , where would you like to live? and given a plane ticket to any city in the united states? it's sheer insanity of the developed world right now , the united world right now, the united states is the only country that does not have a secure border, and the most cynical aspect of all is why this is happening. the liberals don't have babies . the liberals don't have babies. they don't meet the 2.1 replacement rate for child birth . they want to stay in power. they think if they let in tens of millions of illegals, if they amnesty them, if they give them naturalisation and citizenship , naturalisation and citizenship, they will vote for the democrats because what they're coloured , because what they're coloured, this is the ultimate cynicism . this is the ultimate cynicism. and this is the ultimate racism of the democrat party. but i want to remind all of your viewers, texas , the lone star viewers, texas, the lone star state was an independent country

for a decade. in the 19th century. so there is precedence here for texas saying, okay, you won't secure us. you're going to endanger millions of us. >> thank you very much. i'm afraid we have to leave it there. sebastian gorka, thank you very much. now a reminder, the breaking news in the last few the news agency few minutes, the pa news agency report has undergone report the king has undergone surgery we'll surgery and his. well, we'll have i'm martin have that after this. i'm martin daubney on gb news a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hello again. >> hello again. >> it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. a beautiful blue skies out there for many of us and it stays clear in the south overnight where it will be chilly, remains blustery chilly, but it remains blustery further north and this north—south divide continues into the weekend with low pressure towards the far north, sending some weather fronts into the north and northwest scotland. showers or longer spells of rain continuing

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martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all all across the uk and a reminder of the breaking news in these past few minutes. the pa news agency is reporting that the king has undergone treatment for an undergone his treatment for an enlarged prostate and is doing well . fantastic news and there's well. fantastic news and there's the latest on the future. also of rishi sunak. i'm going to find out more about the secretive conservative britain alliance, which has been accused of undermining the prime minister and today is . payday minister and today is. payday for millions of brits across the uk. and most of us have got an extra few quid in our pocket. liam halligan will join me to crunch the numbers and a day after triple killer calocane was sentenced , i'll ask an expert on sentenced, i'll ask an expert on how we should tackle the uk's knife crime epidemic. how we should tackle the uk's knife crime epidemic . and after knife crime epidemic. and after all the talk of russia attacking one of our nato allies, and whether we should have conscription, i'll ask why we constantly being bombarded with all this war propaganda . and

all this war propaganda. and that's all coming up in your next hour . and i want to hear next hour. and i want to hear from you and all the usual ways. please email me gbviews@gbnews.com. astonishing news that valdo calocane could face a parole review in as few as three years. yesterday, relatives believe he'd escaped murder and gamed the system. now another insult for the bereaved . another insult for the bereaved. get in touch all the usual ways on that one. but first, it's time for your latest news headunes. headlines. >> martin. thank you very much. and good afternoon from the gb newsroom . it's just and good afternoon from the gb newsroom . it'sjust gone and good afternoon from the gb newsroom . it's just gone 4:00. newsroom. it's just gone 4:00. the headlines . there may be more the headlines. there may be more tax cuts to come in a second tax cutting budget before a general election in the autumn . it election in the autumn. it follows this month's reduction in national insurance contributions , with the contributions, with the government claiming it will save people around £450 a year. the tory party chairman , richard

tory party chairman, richard holden, told gb news earlier that workers will feel the benefits as we're coming out of that very tough period and we're able to outline our plans for the future. >> i think the actual tax cut. you mentioned the national insurance cut for working people is the start of that. we'll see more of that in march more more of that in march and more of in the year as well. of it later in the year as well. but we have that new direction of which clear . of travel, which is clear. >> but shadow for secretary women and equalities anneliese dodds says people still dodds says people are still worse off. >> what we've seen under the conservatives has not been tax cuts. we have actually seen tax rises. 25 conservative tax rises just since the last general election . and the reality of the election. and the reality of the national insurance, so—called tax cut, it was actually just giving people back £2 of every extra £10 that they're going to be paying in tax. so i'm afraid this is a bit of a tax con as

well as we've been hearing today. >> jurgen klopp says it's time to rest after he announced he's stepping down as liverpool's manager the end this manager at the end of this season. liverpool was transformed his leadership transformed under his leadership , trophies including , winning six trophies including the premier league in 2020. that was their first in 30 years, and the champions league a year before. speaking to reporters this afternoon, he said there'll be plenty of time for a transition with all the responsibility you have in this job and these kind of things, you have to be absolutely on top of your own game. >> that's how it is. i >> that's how it is. and i am, um, i'm this for 24 um, but i'm doing this for 24 years now. i realise that, um, that this is that my, my, my, my resources are not endless . resources are not endless. >> the king is now recovering in hospital after undergoing treatment for an enlarged prostate, and is said to be doing well. queen camilla was seen leaving the london clinic earlier , with buckingham palace earlier, with buckingham palace saying his majesty is delighted to that his diagnosis is to learn that his diagnosis is having a positive impact on pubuc having a positive impact on public health awareness. the king is also understood to have visited the princess of wales,

who's recovering from abdominal surgery . the who's recovering from abdominal surgery. the un's top court has ordered israel to take measures to prevent genocide and punish those who may incite it. a large majority of the 71 judges in the hague voted for urgent action to improve the humanitarian situation in gaza , but fell situation in gaza, but fell short of ordering a ceasefire. instead, the court ordered israel to refrain from any acts that could fall under the genocide convention. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu says israel , though, netanyahu says israel, though, won't be deterred from defending itself. >> the charge of genocide levelled against israel is not only false, it's outrage and decent people everywhere should reject it. on the eve of the international holocaust remembrance day, i again pledge, as israel's prime minister never again is i will continue to defend itself against hamas, a genocidal terror organisation. on october 7th, hamas perpetrated the most horrific atrocities against the jewish people since the holocaust ,

atrocities against the jewish people since the holocaust, and it vows to repeat these atrocities again and again and again . again. >> meanwhile, the foreign secretary says progress is being made to release hostages that are still being held by the hamas terror group. speaker in turkey after a middle east tour, lord cameron said a sustainable ceasefire is still possible . ceasefire is still possible. he's also working to get more aid into gaza, with israel said to be considering a british proposal to open its ashdod port, one of three main cargo points here in the uk. the attorney general will consider a review of valdo calocane sentence after receiving a complaint that that sentence could too be lenient. the nottingham killer was given a hospital order yesterday and will likely spend the rest of his life in a in a high security clinic . he was found to be clinic. he was found to be suffering from a severe mental illness when he killed three people with a knife before attempting to kill three others. he stopped taking prescribed medication and says he could hear voices in his head. three psychiatrists agreed that a

hospital order would be the best course of action. in other news, baroness michelle mone and her husband have had their assets frozen following an application by the crown prosecution service, the financial times is reporting it amounts to around £75 million of assets. it comes as the couple are being investigated for their involvement in supplying ppe dunng involvement in supplying ppe during the pandemic. michelle mone has previously admitted she did lie when denying connections she had to medpro , which made she had to medpro, which made profits of £60 million, and finally , the average monthly finally, the average monthly rent for a home outside of london is now at a record high of nearly £1,300 a month. rightmove says agents are typically receiving around 11 inquiries for every property on the market, and the website predicts that rents will be 5% higher outside london by the end of this year, and up by 3% in london. that's the latest from the gb news room for now. for more, we're on tv, on digital

radio and of course, on your smart speaker two just say play gb news now though. more from . gb news now though. more from. martin thank you sam. >> now we've got lots and lots to get through this hour, so let's get cracking. and we start with the story broke just a few moments ago, and sources have said the king undergone said the king has undergone his treatment enlarged treatment for an enlarged prostate well. king prostate and is doing well. king charles was seen entering the london clinic this morning with the his side. the same the queen at his side. the same hospital, of course, where the princess wales is also being princess of wales is also being cared for after abdominal surgery. and let's speak now to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, who is outside the london clinic. cameron, some great news here. the king seems to be doing well . to be doing well. >> yeah , he certainly does. >> yeah, he certainly does. martin, i've had it confirmed by a source in the last few minutes that the king has undergone that treatment, as you said, and is doing well, which perhaps translates in queen camilla's face when she left the hospital

around half an hour or so ago, she was all smiles, didn't answer any questions from the media when she got her car media when she got into her car and drove off. however, she did seem like she was in pretty good spirits. of course, we've known for about a week or so, haven't we, that the king was due to have this treatment for an enlarged prostate, and since then the nhs website has exploded and he, the king, wants to encourage other men his age to encourage other men his age to seek support and treatment. if they're experiencing perhaps similar symptoms. if they're experiencing perhaps similar symptoms . buckingham similar symptoms. buckingham palace a statement this palace released a statement this morning where they said his majesty would to all majesty would like to thank all those have sent their good majesty would like to thank all those overiave sent their good majesty would like to thank all those over the sent their good majesty would like to thank all those over the past their good majesty would like to thank all those over the past week good majesty would like to thank all those over the past week andi majesty would like to thank all those over the past week and is wishes over the past week and is delighted to learn that his diagnosis is having a positive impact on public health awareness. well, the king and the queen left clarence house this morning and arrived here at the london clinic. but before the london clinic. but before the king underwent his treatment , they visited another member of the royal family in this hospital. and that is the princess of wales , who underwent princess of wales, who underwent abdominal surgery at the

beginning of last week. she's expected to be in hospital for at least a few more days. it's actually quite rare that members of the royal family meet each other or visit other in other or visit each other in hospital, but the fact but perhaps the fact that the king and the queen were coming here anyway, then you might as well see daughter in law while see your daughter in law while you're also it does you're at it. and also it does signify bonds, perhaps, signify the bonds, perhaps, and the between senior the unity between those senior members the royal family. the members of the royal family. the king was keen this week to get in some last minute private engagements. he met a couple engagements. so he met a couple of people, director of of people, one director of university cambridge and one university of cambridge and one science professor at sandringham. last night before he travelled down to london ahead of his surgery at the london he also was london clinic. he also was filmed with the queen earlier this week, lighting a candle for holocaust memorial day. but of course, from now on he's obviously in hospital, having undergone this surgery. he's had treatments, the immediate engagements have either been cancelled or postponed , and the cancelled or postponed, and the queen's obviously was in hospital, has left to go back,

presumably to clarence house. the prince and princess of wales are still out of action for some time, so there are no working members. sorry, no senior working members of the royal family. i should say. family. family, i should say. currently undergoing any engagements moment. engagements at the moment. >> okay. cameron walker, thank you for that positive news. and from everybody here at gb news, get well soon. his majesty, thank you very much . now moving thank you very much. now moving on to the latest of the future of rishi sunak , the prime of rishi sunak, the prime minister. the government, a massive 25 points behind labour in gb news people's poll is a prime minister facing a threat from within his own party? well yesterday mr sunak told tory mps that they were making progress . that they were making progress. but there's more talk today of a group, a mysterious group called the conservative britain alliance, who have been accused of undermining the prime minister well, joining me now to discuss this scurrilous talk is gb news political editor, chris hope. gb news political editor, chris hope . so let's start with this. hope. so let's start with this. this plot , hope. so let's start with this. this plot, lord hope. so let's start with this.

this plot , lord frost threats this plot, lord frost threats for him to have the whip removed today. what's that about? lord frost? >> problem is, he's tied to this this polling, the mrp polling in yougov that came out last week, he wrote opinion articles in the daily telegraph saying that the risk here is that the party is facing a 1997 style wipe—out , facing a 1997 style wipe—out, and he's and the he and others are urging the government to change direction. the government is focusing on who is funding this research happened again just week. again, simon just this week. again, simon clarke in the clarke wrote a piece in the telegraph attached to more polling, forecasting more and more and gloom the tory more doom and gloom for the tory party um, lord frost problem party he um, lord frost problem is he's a serving peer. is he's a he's a serving peer. um, nick who's a senior um, nick true, who's a senior tory. he apparently is meeting with him and saying if you're supporting reform , if your work supporting reform, if your work is reform , you might is backing a reform, you might lose whip. lord frost lose your whip. lord frost himself wants to be mp . he's himself wants to be an mp. he's on on the a list and is on the on the a list and is trying get in there with the trying to get in there with the party. he's trying to party. so he's trying to re—orientate party's re—orientate the party's position towards more tax cuts. but earlier we spoke to but um, earlier we spoke to richard tory richard holden, who's a tory party chairman , about the threat party chairman, about the threat of and that people's

of reform and that people's polling showing labour polling they're showing labour are ahead on 45, the tories on 20% and reform on 12. labour have had a great week, not so good for the tory party here's what they had to say. >> polls bounce around . um, >> polls bounce around. um, obviously, know any obviously, you know any application will be considered on merit , but a application will be considered on merit, but a no then? no. on its merit, but a no then? no. it's definitely not. uh, polls bounce around and, um, i remember , you know, in the, in remember, you know, in the, in just in hartlepool , uh, you just in hartlepool, uh, you know, in 2019, um, my colleague down the road didn't get in because richard tice was because , well, richard tice came third, right. um, in that election and he cost the conservatives that seat. and, you know, a majority of 1100 in north west durham . of 1100 in north west durham. um, it was pretty close to the brexit party at that point . brexit party at that point. could have cost me my seat as well. and it and i don't quite understand, you know, not understand, you know, i'm not quite whether quite sure whether, whether policy from which at policy is coming from which at the is basically cost the the moment is basically cost the conservatives majority. i've conservatives a majority. i've seen polling seen some of those polling numbers well. put labour in. numbers as well. put labour in. i mean, that doesn't seem like what a lot of people who might

be considering a who to vote for at moment. but they're at the moment. um, but they're not voting for labour. i want to see and just just yes or no. >> the pm rishi sunak will lead your party in the next election. >> absolutely. and there's no doubt that . doubt about that. >> doubt about that. >> there's no doubt about that. that's leading the party that's the pm leading the party into problem. november that's the pm leading the party into |ioblem. november that's the pm leading the party into |i should november that's the pm leading the party into |i should sayember that's the pm leading the party into |i should say the ier election, i should say the beginning that clip. beginning of that clip. it wasn't my question cut off. wasn't my question was cut off. but say to him was, would but i did say to him was, would you look at the application if you look at the application if you put one in of our colleague nigel joined tory nigel farage who joined the tory party? look at it, said party? yes. i'd look at it, said the chairman. party? yes. i'd look at it, said the and rman. party? yes. i'd look at it, said the and interesting in >> and interesting in the people's this week, and people's poll this week, and indeed the poll in the telegraph, nigel farage, his name is constantly coming up as a potential leader of the conservative not even conservative party it's not even a member of the whole way to go to to that point. to get to that point. >> mean, but does that show >> i mean, but does that show the perilous situation the sort of perilous situation they're in? >> they nigel or even boris >> they want nigel or even boris back, but neither are up back, but neither of them are up for job. for the job. >> well, that's right, boris is not mp. boris johnson, >> well, that's right, boris is not mp. borisjohnson, you not an mp. boris johnson, you mean. of course. and reform was on points. the is there on 12 points. the view is there were to say, yes, i'm

were farage to say, yes, i'm going to lead reform. it could add six points to that. that will close to will push reform very close to tory what's happened here tory party. what's happened here is party to win. is the tory party exists to win. and problem for rishi and the problem for rishi sunak is everything doing, is everything they're doing, including isn't including these tax cuts, isn't working to working and they're trying to get this bumping along get off this, this bumping along at points, points behind at 20 points, 25 points behind laboun at 20 points, 25 points behind labour. in that interview with richard indicate richard holden, he did indicate more tax come. tax today more tax to come. tax cuts today most pay packet 2% off most people's pay packet 2% off on that insurance more in the march talked march budget. but he also talked a the future. here's a bit about the future. here's what say. what to say. >> had to make some really >> we've had to make some really difficult over the difficult decisions over the last few years in order to support people the covid support people during the covid pandemic. order to support pandemic. in order to support people the crisis people during the energy crisis that we've seen following russias illegal invasion of ukraine and what we're now on is a situation where coming out of that very tough period and we're able to outline our plans for the future, i think the actual tax cut, you mentioned the national insurance cut for working people is the start of that. we'll see more of that in march and more of it later in the year as well. >> more of that later in >> so the more of that later in the year as well. that is

indicating to many people they're tory they're downplaying it. the tory party, some form party, there could be some form of fiscal event in of budget fiscal event in september now that makes strategic the strategic sense because the party, the tory party, doesn't want bequeath a pile of want to bequeath a big pile of money that labour can spend if they win the election. they want to use that money to try and win the election. that's why the election. and that's why i think looking now. think we're looking now. indications, first indications here news there. here on gb news exclusive there. there could be some tax cuts coming in september. it'll make complete sense. >> the economy complete sense. >> as the economy complete sense. >> as we the economy complete sense. >> as we always nomy complete sense. >> as we always sayy stupid. as we always say. the election coming. a big election will be coming. a big fat cut maybe . maybe the fat tax cut maybe. maybe the tories will have do it. tories will have to do it. i mean, are so far behind in mean, they are so far behind in all of these polls day after day after day. if they throw a load of money electorate, will of money at the electorate, will it work? >> well, it might work. and of course asked holden in an course we asked mr holden in an interview is tax cuts? all interview who is tax cuts? all everyone cares about where i'm from, potholes are a problem. you can't get on the hospital waiting list. other issues too, but they can but they do think that they can promise show indications of promise and show indications of two big rounds of cuts. this two big rounds of tax cuts. this yeah two big rounds of tax cuts. this year. going to say to year. they're going to say to people look, if people in november, look, if you're feeling richer don't you're feeling richer, don't

risk voting labour. stick risk it by voting labour. stick with the program. don't mess it up. >> but there have been 24 straight tax rises before today's curve, according to laboun >> now some of those were not entirely what they what they seemed , but certainly the tax is seemed, but certainly the tax is at the highest level it's been in decades since world war two. >> and people just feel much worse off. and for there to be, you know, to cut through the grease, you know , £400 a year grease, you know, £400 a year isn't really going to cut it. they're going to have to do more. the voters aren't stupid. >> know the government has >> they know the government has held these tax held as frozen these tax thresholds inflation has thresholds so as inflation has dnven thresholds so as inflation has driven packets dragged driven up pay packets dragged into fiscal drag, well, let's not fiscal or fiscal drag. not use fiscal or fiscal drag. even afternoon. it's even on a friday afternoon. it's hard to understand. but it hard to understand. but what it means pulled means is you're being pulled into the higher levels of tax and everyone hates that. so that's a problem. it's kind that's a problem. it's a kind of backhanded it. also backhanded way of doing it. also council up by a lot council tax going up by by a lot in many areas. in april because councils with councils are struggling with with their services. with the cost of their services. so not easy. so with one hand as even so not easy. so with one hand as ever, they give the one hand and

take away the other one. take away with the other one. there's of storm there's been a lot of storm clouds horizon this week clouds on the horizon this week for rishi. >> been a lot of >> there's been a lot of scurrilous manoeuvres, a lot of former coming former special advisers coming out over unless out saying it's all over unless we put a new man in the ring, will this precipitate some form of challenge or is of leadership challenge or is that carey for the that just harry carey for the tories ? tories? >> who's harry carey? oh, sorry . >> who's harry carey? oh, sorry. no suicide, you mean? well, it could be definitely electoral suicide. i can see suicide. definitely i can see danger for the party. i think a double by—election defeat in the valentine's day. the day after valentine's day. the day after valentine's day, by a by elections could be a moment of concern for sunak. and then it's the may elections in in in, uh, uh, local elections in may. that could be a problem too for him. but he's got to get through it. i think he's on good form. people have seen him this week. think he's buzzing. he's happy. he's trying to get people outside bubble, outside, outside the bubble, outside, away people away from twitter. people do like of course as mr like him. and of course as mr holden said to us in that interview, um, don't forget, back 2017, uh, theresa may back in 2017, uh, theresa may was ahead in the was 26 points ahead in the polls. called an election polls. she called an election

and majority. now, if you and lost a majority. now, if you reverse labour's 25 points reverse that, labour's 25 points ahead in the polls. >> but nevertheless, does >> but nevertheless, it does feel richard tice feel that that richard tice nigel farage reform party, nigel farage the reform party, they're wasp at the they're like the wasp at the picnic. continually picnic. they're continually being a nuisance to the conservatives. they're having to bat away questions all time. bat away questions all the time. so bill cash we had on the show earlier, we said to him, have you ever considered defecting? and of course he said, no, but there is all this talk about will. there be defections? i saw richard tice earlier here, and he saying, if it's going to he was saying, if it's going to happen, they should do it sooner rather later. you think rather than later. do you think that's likely? grand that's likely? and the grand scheme or will the scheme of things or will the tories by their guns, tories stand by their guns, stand by their man, stand by their party and fight till the bitter end? >> there's always talk going, selection nigel selection of defections nigel farage years teasing farage spent three years teasing us, but 20, 2012 to 2015 about. but um , people defecting. you but um, people defecting. you got a couple over the line. uh douglas carswell i think. mark reckless. i can't see any doing it for the tory party. i think it's it would be foolhardy , i it's it would be foolhardy, i think, at this stage to do it

how. >> now. >> but if there is politics at the moment feels so randomised. i mean, is there any such thing anymore as a safe seat? we've seen colossal swings in by seen such colossal swings in by elections to the liberal democrats . if, if there is an democrats. if, if there is an upset in the by elections, if the reform nibble in there . um, the reform nibble in there. um, patrick o'flynn was on the show this week saying this is make or break for the reform party. they need to perform at these by elections. >> yes. in wellingborough, particularly is >> yes. in wellingborough, p.canaryrly is >> yes. in wellingborough, p.canary in is >> yes. in wellingborough, p.canary in the is >> yes. in wellingborough, p.canary in the mine. is >> yes. in wellingborough, p.canary in the mine. the is >> yes. in wellingborough, p.canary in the mine. the party a canary in the mine. the party came second in 2015. other came second in 2015. the other one being kingswood in one being in kingswood in bristol last clear, certainly in wellingborough. do run wellingborough. if reform do run the there'll the tories close there. there'll be wobble, i think. mean be a big wobble, i think. i mean the problem with the tory party is they are so far behind is they are just so far behind the they exist be in the polls, they exist to be in power they, they, they, power and they, they, they, they're concerned about why we are, behind. why are, are we so far behind. why isn't sunak working? why isn't rishi sunak working? why isn't rishi sunak working? why isn't happening? because he's isn't it happening? because he's patently individual. patently a decent individual. doing be earning doing his best could be earning far outside of where is far more outside of where he is or the sector of the or where of the sector of the pubuc or where of the sector of the public life . you know, get public life. you know, get behind him and he's all they've got time. the time has run out

for me. the road to replacing him is fast, fast running out. but you did predict in chopper's political predictions for the year that that reform would win one seat. >> um , would you care to >> um, would you care to elaborate on where you think that might be or who it might be? what are the metrics looking like? where are the sweet spots for reform party? for the reform party? >> well, you know, there are seats like clacton at the seats like like clacton at the election. poll about election. the recent poll about arron banks. >> linked to that scene. >> there was about a handful of seats where ukip did quite well. wellingborough as wellingborough is one they, as i say, peter bone close say, they ran peter bone close in 2015 when was ukip not in 2015 when it was ukip not called reform. there's opportunity there, these are opportunity there, but these are really protest votes. the policies voting for. as policies they're voting for. as i try to indicate with the interview richard tice last interview with richard tice last week, know, how week, are that, you know, how are to pay for them, are you going to pay for them, isn't really being tested properly in the crucible of pubuc properly in the crucible of public that's the concern. >> we've had anderson >> and we've had lee anderson this week, richard holden now and mps saying a and multiple tory mps saying a vote vote for vote for reform is a vote for the party . labour at the labour party. labourjust at the labour party. labourjust at the has to be said. they the moment, has to be said. they seem unstoppable. >> they are not doing

>> yeah, they are not doing anything wrong, and anything wrong, are they? and they're giving a lot they're not giving a lot of detail how they're to detail of how they're going to spend money. the big spend their money. the big concern or concern the concern or the concern for the tory is how are you going tory party is how are you going to are you to spend £28 to are you going to spend £28 billion on green policies in the second half of the next parliament? how do you do parliament? if so, how do you do that? debt funded or more that? is it debt funded or more taxes? um are you going to be willing to put this idea of the credits, call it this net zero? god focus on zero ahead god this focus on net zero ahead of people's people's everyday lives. you know, the lives. it's you know, the lack of detail they've learned of detail there. they've learned the 1992 when john the lesson from 1992 when john smith set out the tax plans too early. that became labour's tax bombshell, the tory bombshell, exploited by the tory party. and he snuck back victory for john major. they've been forjohn major. they've been there before. martin, can i ask you one question? >> i went into parliament last week dawn butler >> i went into parliament last week out. dawn butler >> i went into parliament last week out. i dawn butler >> i went into parliament last week out. i thought,5utler >> i went into parliament last week out. i thought, oh,ar >> i went into parliament last week out. i thought, oh, i coming out. i thought, oh, i haven't seen dawn butler in ages. think keir starmer ages. do you think keir starmer has a clever job of keeping has done a clever job of keeping the who caused the people who have caused his party trouble in the media? dawn butler, lewis, diane butler, clive lewis, diane abbott, they've been more. and angela they've angela rayner, indeed they've been less radio silent . been more or less radio silent. what do you think? is that a

concerted effort? you lot concerted effort? look you lot keep trouble. be quiet. concerted effort? look you lot keethey trouble. be quiet. concerted effort? look you lot keethey are trouble. be quiet. concerted effort? look you lot keethey are favouringie quiet. concerted effort? look you lot keethey are favouring a quiet. concerted effort? look you lot keethey are favouring a certain >> they are favouring a certain group of people to go on air. maybe the ones who aren't, those who so obviously backing who are so obviously backing jeremy old days, jeremy corbyn. in the old days, one one of the i think one of the one of the i think the attacks that works for tory parties say jeremy parties when they say to jeremy corbyn, keir starmer, you corbyn, to keir starmer, you wanted corbyn prime wanted jeremy to corbyn be prime minister, you backed him, you backed of the 19 backed him ahead of the 19 general election. and is general election. and that is really hard for starmer because he did and said and so there's an judgement of an issue of a judgement call of starmer supporting someone starmer for supporting someone like that's like jeremy corbyn. and that's why they're probably why i think they're probably saying off the airwaves for saying stay off the airwaves for a bit if you can. >> but then the labour party say every time rishi mentions, every time rishi sunak mentions, um, corbyn at pmqs, it's um, jeremy corbyn at pmqs, it's a, it's an increasing sign of desperation . they're trying to desperation. they're trying to attack a labour party that no longer exists. they would claim , longer exists. they would claim, by trying bring up the by trying to bring up the spectre of corbynism and the spectre, and we saw that at left, prime minister's questions. >> this week, when it was basically of basically a greatest hits of anything. keir anything. you can attack keir starmer for. said i thought starmer for. i said i thought that me that was because that for me that was because sunak sunak felt weak. he'd

sunak felt sunak felt weak. he'd had article overnight from had that article overnight from simon clarke. he had to really just at anything he just push back at anything he could starmer keir starmer could hit. starmer keir starmer with. did to really almost to with. he did to really almost to support himself with his own own members, mps behind him. >> it's a fascinating piece. again, that lord frost again, from that man, lord frost in telegraph graph. and in today's telegraph graph. and he says this trump has captured the new conservative zeitgeist. and he said in that he's basically alluding to the fact that rishi sunak, the prime minister, is a good man. but people don't want the same thing again. they want something more radical again. does that indicate that lord frost is saying the future of the conservative party if they don't want to be eviscerated, doesn't begin with rishi sunak as the prime minister >> i don't think that's what lord would he lord frost would say were he here. i think the concern is that this is just working at that this is just not working at the is the moment. nothing is happening. polls aren't happening. the polls aren't budging. what can they budging. what can we do? they want have i mean, want to have someone. i mean, bons want to have someone. i mean, boris johnson, for all his weaknesses. and there were many of them now. he of course we know them now. he did pull together this, this extraordinary coalition of interests south of interests in north and south of

the what the country. and that's what we want see someone inspire want to see someone to inspire not. think the targets he not. and i think the targets he would himself, boris would have set himself, boris johnson have been moonshot johnson would have been moonshot targets, loads of targets, like loads of hospitals, and targets, like loads of hos rest s, and targets, like loads of hos rest of and targets, like loads of hos rest of it, and targets, like loads of hos rest of it, rather and targets, like loads of hos rest of it, rather than and targets, like loads of hos rest of it, rather than ones the rest of it, rather than ones to remind the people of failure. >> chris o'brien, >> okay, chris o'brien, excellent friday afternoon chat there. superb would have been even thank there. superb would have been eververy thank there. superb would have been eververy much. thank there. superb would have been eververy much. now thank there. superb would have been eververy much. now moving�*nk there. superb would have been eververy much. now moving on the you very much. now moving on the international of justice you very much. now moving on the inte orderedl of justice you very much. now moving on the inte ordered israel of justice you very much. now moving on the inte ordered israel to justice you very much. now moving on the inte ordered israel to take ce you very much. now moving on the inte ordered israel to take steps has ordered israel to take steps to prevent genocide in gaza, but has of calling has stopped short of calling for a total ceasefire. i'm martin daubney on gb

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news . welcome back. news. welcome back. >> it's 428. you're watching and listening to martin daubney on gb news now later in the show, i'll ask a top chef if one of the big questions of the week do pineapples have a place in the good old english fry up? incredibly, that's what the engush incredibly, that's what the english breakfast society is saying . it's getting me quite saying. it's getting me quite hungry now. the international court of justice has ordered israel to take steps to prevent genocide in gaza, but has stopped short of calling for a ceasefire . south africa brought ceasefire. south africa brought the case to the un's top court, claiming israel's response to the 7th of october attacks is in breach of the un's genocide convention in israel now have one month to respond to the hague based court for more on this, i'm now joined by jeremy issacharoff, who's an israel diplomat and a former ambassador to germany. thank you so much for joining us on the show. jeremy so what do you make of

today's ruling? it's been brushed aside by your prime minister >> well, i think, first of all, that the south africans shouldn't have brought this case in the first place. um, and i think it's very instructive that the court, uh, in its judgement today, the first thing they mentioned that this whole issue started when hamas attacked israel on the 7th of october, killing , uh, israel on the 7th of october, killing, uh, well israel on the 7th of october, killing , uh, well over killing, uh, well over a thousand israeli civilians and still capturing 240 hostages, which they continue to hold. so i think, first of all, that also puts on record who actually started this. and in many ways, i think the number of issues that they, uh , dealt with today, that they, uh, dealt with today, they didn't go into the merits of the case about whether this is a contravention of the genocide convention, but rather to talk about whether there would be needed any immediate measures , um, which the south measures, um, which the south africans asked for, like, uh, first and foremost, the immediate stop of all fighting ,

immediate stop of all fighting, which hasn't been issued by the court. >> look, we will look at the court's decision, study it, and, uh, we will look at a lot of its different aspects . different aspects. >> and obviously, this is an issue that will carry on in the court for a number of years. and jeremy, how does it make you feel when external organisations such as the un, the red cross , such as the un, the red cross, south africa, the nation is effectively telling the state of israel that you don't have the right to defend yourself in this way . well, obviously, i think way. well, obviously, i think it's absolutely absurd and considering the fact that, uh, one of the un organisations that is very much active in gaza, uh, the unwra uh, organisation , the the unwra uh, organisation, the united states, uh, announced today that it's temporarily suspending financing of that organisation . uh, given the organisation. uh, given the information that they had, uh, gleaned regarding the, uh, the actual , uh, gleaned regarding the, uh, the actual, uh, participation of unwra workers in the attacks on

october 7th on in israel . october 7th on in israel. >> so, i think, you know, a lot of these organisations, first of all, have to realise that we were attacked, our citizens were targeted. this was not an attack against a military installation . against a military installation. >> it was against civilians. >> it was against civilians. >> the rocket attacks and everything else . everything else. >> so we will have to , uh, deal >> so we will have to, uh, deal with that. and the essential thing about the court decision is that israel, at the end of the day, has the right to self—defence , uh, against the self—defence, uh, against the genocidal acts of hamas . genocidal acts of hamas. >> anyway. >> anyway. >> so i think that that is, uh, a very crucial point of today's heanng a very crucial point of today's hearing . hearing. >> yeah. and many people scratching their heads wondering why this case was even brought in the first place. absolutely >> and i don't think, you know, i think it was, uh, i think the court should have found , uh, the court should have found, uh, the fact south africa has fact that south africa has absolutely nothing to do with this conflict. and if i was very surprised that south africa would want to be an agent and represent and support an

organisation which has said a number of times they are dedicated to the destruction of a member state of the un, of israel . israel. >> and they want to, you know, wipe it out from the river to the sea. >> so who actually is on the side of , uh, conducting genocide ? >> 7- >> uh, and 7— >> uh, and i ? >> uh, and i think that israel, we look at our international responsibilities very seriously. >> we know what our obligations are according to the conventions that we're party to all of our operations are accompanied by legal advice and careful consideration . so, i mean, we consideration. so, i mean, we feel confident that we are trying to do the right thing. and an incredibly difficult situation. >> okay. thank you very much for joining us. jeremy issacharoff , joining us. jeremy issacharoff, an israeli diplomat and a former ambassador to germany. thank you for joining us on gb news. now. forjoining us on gb news. now. still lots more to come between now and 5:00. and i'll tell you why. millions of people have got an extra few quid in their pay packets today. but first, here's your headlines.

your latest news headlines. >> martin. thank you very much. it's just gone 430. the headunes it's just gone 430. the headlines from the gb newsroom this hour. there may be more tax cuts to come in a second. tax cutting budget before a general election in the autumn. it follows this month's reduction in national insurance contributions , with the contributions, with the government claiming it will save people around £450 a year. jurgen klopp has promised he will never manage another engush will never manage another english club after announcing he's stepping down as liverpool's manager at the end of season . liverpool was of this season. liverpool was transformed under his leadership, winning six trophies including the premier league in 2020, their first in 30 years, and the champions league a year before . the queen has told before. the queen has told people inside the london clinic that the king is doing well after undergoing undergoing treatment for an enlarged prostate at buckingham palace, says his majesty is delighted to learn that his diagnosis this is having a positive impact on pubuc having a positive impact on public health awareness. before his hospital operation. the king

is understood to have visited the princess wales , who is the princess of wales, who is also recovering from surgery . also recovering from surgery. the foreign secretary says progress is being made to release hostages still being held by the hamas terror group . held by the hamas terror group. speaking in turkey after a middle east tour, lord cameron said a sustainable ceasefire is possible. he's also working to get more aid into gaza , with get more aid into gaza, with israel said to be considering a british proposal to open its ashdod's port, one of three main cargo points , and the attorney cargo points, and the attorney general will consider a review of valdo calocane sentence after receiving a complaint that it could too be lenient. the nottingham killer was given a hospital order yesterday and will likely spend the rest of his life in a high security clinic . he was found to be clinic. he was found to be suffering from a severe mental illness when he killed three people with a knife before attempting to kill three others. his and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com . thank

website, gb news.com. thank website, gbnews.com. thank you sam. >> now in a while we're going to be talking about knife crime. of course, the centre piece in yesterday of valdo calocane taken in nottingham killed three people, has brought this topic once again to the fore . once again to the fore. yesterday we talked about how the conservative party and the labour party, both main parties , labour party, both main parties, have promised to crack down on knife crime by limiting the supply of zombie knives and machetes. but yesterday i put it to ken haines , who works with to ken haines, who works with young offenders and young lads across london to get them to stop carrying knives. so this would simply be ineffective . would simply be ineffective. they would find knives in any way possible and any rate, there are enough already out there on the streets. and quite rightly, he said, a knife from ikea could do the job later in the show i'm going to talk to norman brennan. i had him on the show yesterday and we just got started on how

to tackle the cancer of knife crime, but we had to cut him off and we agreed overnight we had to come back on and talk about this knife crime is a terrible blight upon our society. grace kumar kumar's, um, mum mother, one of the deceased in nottingham , is calling for nottingham, is calling for mandatory jail terms for anybody caught carrying a knife. but is that too much ? is that too far? that too much? is that too far? would it even work ? in fact, ken would it even work? in fact, ken haines yesterday, he said if people were sent to prison for carrying knives, they would see as a honour. back on as a badge of honour. back on the streets when they got out, which i know is impossible to comprehend . ed, for and comprehend. ed, for you and i particularly on the back of this case, it's just incredible to get your head around the fact that going to jail is seen as a badge of honour for somebody carrying they've tried carrying a knife. they've tried every route they every route possible. they really have . but need to get really have. but we need to get to the bottom of this. norman brennan up, believe, brennan coming up, i believe, with radical answers. but with some radical answers. but before that , it's the last before that, it's the last friday of the month. and for millions of us, it's payday.

hurrah as some of you might have noticed, a wee bit more money on that paycheque time with that paycheque this time with the chancellor's national insurance cut announcements insurance rate cut announcements coming into the action. well, to chat about this good news gb news business and economics editor liam halligan now joins me with on the money . leon me with on the money. leon welcome to the show. always a pleasure. so the tax cut kicks in today . the big question is in today. the big question is will people even notice? >> i think they will. martin, nice to be with you. as ever this fine afternoon . this is a this fine afternoon. this is a tax cut that jeremy hunt, the chancellor, announced in his autumn statement back in november . and the tories, rather november. and the tories, rather than waiting for the new tax yean than waiting for the new tax year, which is in april, they're introducing it now so they can get some momentum. they want to do a tax cut now, a tax cut, uh, announced in their march budget on the 6th of march will be the next budget statement that can come in in april. and there may

be more tax cuts in the autumn with their autumn statement before a general election in october or november, so they can try and get some sort of momentum going. we are the tax cutting party ahead of the election. of course, labour will deny so back to this deny that. so back to this particular tax cut, a cut in national insurance. national insurance is a tax in all but name. you pay it like a tax. it's meant to be kept in a separate fund by the government. but it isn't. it's all in one big pot. so let's have a look at a graphic because it wouldn't be on the money without a graphic, would it? martin so here have would it? martin so here we have some on the doors. some of the scores on the doors. national insurance is paid by all earning over £12,570 all those earning over £12,570 a yeah all those earning over £12,570 a year. that's when you start paying year. that's when you start paying it. but if you're self—employed , you start paying self—employed, you start paying national insurance when you have profits of over . £6,725 a year. profits of over. £6,725 a year. now national insurance rate. this is what jeremy hunt has done. he's cut the headline national insurance rate from 12% to 10. that's a pretty big percent cut. what does that

mean? it means people on average wages around 32 grand, they're going to save £450 a year, which is actually quite a lot. but if you're self employed, you've got to wait until april for those tax changes to take effect. now look, labour will say rightly in this case that this tax cut. yes it's stealing headlines. yes. you and i are talking about it. it's been in the papers all month. it's complete blown away by what's called fiscal drag. that's the fact that when he was chancellor rishi sunak and since he's been chancellor jeremy hunt, they frozen tax thresholds. what does that mean ? thresholds. what does that mean? it means that £12,500 odd threshold, it doesn't go up with inflation. the starting rate, the basic rate of income tax threshold is around 20 grand. that doesn't go up with inflation. the top rate of tax threshold, the upper rate of tax threshold. they all stay where they are. and that means that as inflation rises and wages rise

more and more people are dragged into higher tax brackets. that's fiscal drag that is increasing the whole tax take far more than this tax cut. and indeed lots of other tax cuts that are planned are reducing the tax take the tax, take the overall share of gdp taken by tax. the tax burden, as we call it, is at a 70 year high. martin and just because you're cutting the headune because you're cutting the headline rate of national insurance by 2. yes it's eye catching. yes. that bloke on the telly is talking about it . but telly is talking about it. but it's fiscal drag a more difficult concept to understand that's really hitting hard working families, hard , hard as working families, hard, hard as the government takes ever more tax. thank you liam halligan. >> hey, there's a great day to get a pay rise. it's a friday. i wonder what you'll be spending yours on. liam i'll have a little cheeky guess. thank you very much. >> a pint for you. pleasure >> a pint for you. pleasure >> now moving on. the conservatives and labour, as i said earlier, both claim they've got the answer to ending the

country's knife crime epidemic. but i'm going to speak to a real expert who's got a plan for how to tackle this issue. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's

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places like scunthorpe . places like scunthorpe. >> welcome back . it's 445. >> welcome back. it's 445. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news at 5:00. we'll have the latest on the future of rishi sunak. the prime minister. but a reminder now of a story we spoke about around an hour ago. it's emerged that triple killer valdo calocane could be released in just three years. calocane was given a hospital order after pleading guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility of barnaby webber, grace o'malley kumar and ian coates last year. he's entitled to a review of his mental health every three years, and one of the major talking points that came out of calocane is case is, of course , the use is case is, of course, the use of knives on uk streets. on the same day that he was sentenced yesterday, both the conservatives and the labour party announced how that they

would plan to tackle britain's knife crime epidemic. but joining me now to discuss this is the former london police officer and the director of the law and order foundation, norman brennan . norman, welcome back to brennan. norman, welcome back to the show. yesterday we talked about the calocane case and we were just about to get started on how we can tackle knife crime when we ran out of time. so let's start that conversation again. how can we end the cancer of knife crime? yesterday i spoke to ken hines . he of knife crime? yesterday i spoke to ken hines. he said mandatory jail sentences won't work because kids see that as a badge of honour. that's what grace o'malley, kumar's mother was asking for. how do we tackle this brand? well i disagree with ken hines. >> absolutely . it's never been >> absolutely. it's never been tried. so nothing has been tried. so nothing has been tried. you cannot know if it works or not. let me tell you quickly, martin. >> 20 years ago, as a serving police officer with a number of black families, white families in london, i went to tum to 10 downing street in full uniform, and i said to tony blair, or we

said to tony blair, we need to introduce five year mandatory prison sentences for those that carry knives without lawful authority or excuse. >> and if you're a juvenile for three years, no excuses . and if three years, no excuses. and if they'd actually done that , then they'd actually done that, then we wouldn't be having this chat today. we wouldn't be having this chat today . we need mandatory five today. we need mandatory five year prison sentences for those that carry a knife on the streets. i said it 20 years ago. i predict ed knife epidemic and what we're talking about knife crime in the past year has gone up crime in the past year has gone ”p by crime in the past year has gone up by 5% nationally. crime in the past year has gone up by 5% nationally . since 2015. up by 5% nationally. since 2015. it's gone up by 77% since mayor khan has been the mayor of london. it's gone up 40. how dreadful do these statistics have to be? i and my colleagues in the within policing have picked up the pieces and believe you me, the devastation is huge . you me, the devastation is huge. we have got too much carrots and almost no stick . and martin, almost no stick. and martin, i'll ask you this question . i'll ask you this question. you're a sensible guy. we know

each other well personally and on the media for you. tell me or any of your listeners. tell me anything that the labour party or the conservative party have done positively to crack down on knife crime. it's all smoke and mirrors and window dressing. it's about time that we had more more stick and less carrot . but more stick and less carrot. but i'm afraid that hasn't happened . i'm afraid that hasn't happened. >> norman, what about the contentious issue of stop and search? something that mayor khan pushed back against? does that have a place in stamping out knife crime ? out knife crime? >> absolutely. the policing minister will have told you this week over 100,000 knives have been taken off the streets of britain, 100,000. that means possibly 100,000 lives could have been saved. we need mass stop and search. we need 18,000 more police officers just to keep up with the population growth. and on top of that, martin, we need 20,000 more police officers . the sad reality

police officers. the sad reality is, is neither labour or conservative and i didn't vote last time round . have a clue on last time round. have a clue on knife crime . i have been banging knife crime. i have been banging on for it and i'm the longest, longest knife campaigner and the most vociferous for almost 35 years. not once have they called me and what they do is they look for the cheap options . and i for the cheap options. and i leave you with this sort of question. is this what price or value does the conservative or labour party put on the safety of young children, where parents are planning funerals instead of futures, and the protection of society? if it's just window dressing and no mandatory sentences, all they're doing is making excuses. and i'm just about to do an interview very quickly. martin in on a national radio station, a 15 year old boy surrounded by nine thugs, one run and stabbed him in the head, scarred him for life. his mother was on the radio station

yesterday . do you know what his yesterday. do you know what his punishment was ? the court asked punishment was? the court asked the offender for or told the offender right . a letter of offender right. a letter of apology and a £50 fine if that's what the courts are doing. it doesn't matter if the government, say , 20 years government, say, 20 years imprisonment for carrying a knife on the streets, if they still get the same derisory sentence as you might as well say, well, you can go to prison for life if it's never going to happen. i'm afraid all these promises are nothing but hot air to get voted on, and sadly, society are going to live in a very dangerous world that britain's currently are . britain's streets currently are. >> and no one. brennan's tough talking, straight talking as even talking, straight talking as ever. thank you very much for joining director the law joining us. director of the law and foundation, norman and order foundation, norman brennan. now, brennan. excellent stuff. now, here's the question to you. are we targeted with constant we being targeted with constant war propaganda? i asked that after a crazy flurry of stories this week, in the space of just a few days, a british think tank has said russia thinks the united states wouldn't dare respond attack on a respond to a nuclear attack on a nato country . the head of the

nato country. the head of the british army said we should think about mandatory conscription, an official government forecast claimed. there's more than 1 in 4 chance that russia will attack another british ally in the next two years, and the head of the united states navy has said we should significantly import significantly important for the uk to invest in our military. what on earth is going on? it's like the cold war all over again . an i'm joined now to discuss this by lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, who's a former british army officer and is a defence analyst. thank you for joining us. lieutenant colonel crawford, what is going on? it feels like we're being bombarded by constant war footing propaganda . well i don't think propaganda. well i don't think it's necessarily propaganda . it's necessarily propaganda. >> there is a sort of emerging consensus in both the uk and our nato allies that our resurgent russian military threat, uh, with the background of the ukraine conflict , is something ukraine conflict, is something that we have to prepare for. >> and i think the truth of the

matter is that britain's armed forces at the moment are not prepared. >> uh, we don't have sufficient personnel, numbers of personnel across the three services have reduced between somewhere between 30 and 40% since 2010. >> the navy can't crew all its ships. >> the raf can't train enough fast jet pilots for the jets that it hasn't got yet. >> and the army can't recruit and retain , uh, soldiers for and retain, uh, soldiers for every one entering. >> three are leaving, so we're in dire straits. and i think general , uh, sanders speech , general, uh, sanders speech, which has been well reported in the uk and beyond, is a very, uh, real attempt to try and bnng uh, real attempt to try and bring the whole matter to political and public attention and in that he has succeeded . and in that he has succeeded. >> well, he certainly has. but is this what a drive to drive conscription? is it to make us softer towards endless billions, towards the war effort? what's their end game ? their end game? >> well, the end game is, i

think, to i mean, conscription is not popular in, uh, britain. >> it's only been imposed twice before at, uh , times of national before at, uh, times of national crisis. >> in the first world war and the second world war. >> and then continuing through the cold war. but traditionally we have relied a small we have relied on a small professional volunteer tier army. and i think most people would be keen to continue with that practice if we can. uh, but the truth of the matter is, the armed forces are underfunded and they're underfunded because our current crop of politicians don't really get defence. they don't really get defence. they don't understand it. they don't really want to deal with it . and really want to deal with it. and it's also competing against health priorities, education, transport, etc, etc. so until someone ups the ante and presents what everybody can see is a clear and present danger , is a clear and present danger, then they're going to have to struggle . struggle. >> okay. thanks forjoining us, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford , talking about the crawford, talking about the constant propaganda we seem to be facing now. reminder, this

afternoon's big breaking news stories, sources have said the king has undergone his treatment for an enlarged prostate gland and is doing well. for an enlarged prostate gland and is doing well . we saw queen and is doing well. we saw queen camilla leaving the london clinic shortly and he is doing well. fantastic news to end on a friday. i'll have more on that after this. i'm martin daubney on gb news is britain's news channel. >> taking a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsor of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast east. a beautiful blue skies out there for many of us and it stays clear in the south overnight where it will be chilly, but it remains blustery further north and this north—south divide continues into the weekend, with low pressure towards the far north, sending some weather fronts into the north and northwest scotland

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>> it's 5 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk today, there's the latest on the future of rishi sunak . today, there's the latest on the future of rishi sunak. i'm going to find out more about the secretive conservative britain alliance . which has been accused alliance. which has been accused of undermining the prime minister. i'll be joined by a tory mp shortly to discuss that further. and the end of an further. and it's the end of an era in football, as liverpool gafferjurgen klopp announces he'll at the end of the he'll quit at the end of the season. but the timing has the announcement, has it come as quite a shock to many liverpool fans get all the latest fans will get all the latest reaction big story in reaction to this big story in football and there's major developments in the migrant crisis usa. half of the crisis in the usa. half of the states governors are backing texas against joe biden after they strengthened their border with mexico. that's all coming in your next hour. now, i want to hear from you in all the

usual ways. email me please gbviews@gbnews.com. now here's a bit of fun for you. would you have pineapple on your fry up? that's right. that's what the breakfast club are saying. we should all do . i like pineapple should all do. i like pineapple on all savoury foods. should all do. i like pineapple on all savoury foods . pizza, on all savoury foods. pizza, gammon. i'm game. are you? let me know if you fancy a bit of pineapple with the sausage and bacon. but first, it's your time for your latest news headlines . for your latest news headlines. >> martin, thank you very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. the headlines just after 5:00. there may be more tax cuts to come in a second tax cutting budget before a general election autumn. it election in the autumn. it follows this month's reduction in national insurance contributions, with the government claiming it will save people around £450 a year. the tory chairman, richard holden, told gb news earlier that workers will feel the benefits. >> we're coming out of that very tough period and we're able to outline our plans for the future . i think the actual tax cut.

you mentioned the national insurance cut for working people is the start of that. we'll see more of that in march and more of it later in the year as well. but we have that new direction of which clear. of travel, which is clear. >> shadow secretary for >> but shadow secretary for women and equalities anneliese dodds says people are still worse off. >> what we've seen under the conservatives has not been tax cuts . we've actually seen tax cuts. we've actually seen tax rises. 25 conservative tax rises just since the last general election. and the reality of the national insurance, so—called tax cut, it was actually just giving people back £2 of every extra £10 that they're going to be paying in tax. so i'm afraid this is a bit of a tax con in sport. >> jurgen klopp has promised he will never manage another engush will never manage another english club after announcing he's stepping down as liverpool's manager at the end of this season , liverpool was of this season, liverpool was transformed under his leadership, winning six trophies

including the premier league in 2020. that was their first in 30 years and the champions league a years and the champions league a year before. speaking to reporters this afternoon, he said there'll be plenty of time for a transition . for a transition. >> with all the responsibility you have in this job and these kind of things, you have to be absolutely on top of your own game. how and game. that's how it is. and i am, um, but i'm doing this for 24 years now. i realised, um, that this is that my, my, my resources are not endless . resources are not endless. >> the queen has told people inside the london clinic that the king is doing well after undergoing treatment for an enlarged prostate. buckingham palace says his majesty is delighted to learn that his diagnosis having a positive diagnosis is having a positive impact on public health awareness . and before his awareness. and before his hospital operation, the king is understood have the understood to have visited the princess of wales, who is also recovering abdominal recovering from abdominal surgery . the recovering from abdominal surgery. the un's top court has ordered israel to take preventative measures to stop genocide and to punish those who

incite it. a large majority of the 17 judges in the hague voted for urgent action to improve the humanitarian situation. there but fell short of ordering a ceasefire in gaza. instead the court ordered israel to refrain from any acts that could fall under the genocide convention. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu, says israel won't , netanyahu, says israel won't, though, be deterred from defending itself . defending itself. >> the charge of genocide levelled against israel is not only false , it's outrageous and only false, it's outrageous and decent people everywhere should reject it. on the eve of the international holocaust remembrance day , i again pledge remembrance day, i again pledge as israel's prime minister, never again israel will continue to defend itself against hamas, a genocidal terror organisation. on october 7th, hamas perpetrate the most horrific atrocities against the jewish people since the holocaust, and it vows to repeat these atrocities again and again and again. >> meanwhile, the foreign

secretary here in the uk says progress is being made to release hostages that are still being held by the hamas terror group. speaking in turkey after a middle east tour, lord cameron said a sustainable ceasefire is still possible. he's also working to get more aid into gaza, with israel said to be considering a british proposal to open its ashdod port, one of three main cargo points elsewhere for the attorney general says she will review a or consider a review of valdo calocane sentence after receiving a complaint that it could be too lenient. the nottingham killer was given a hospital order yesterday and will likely spend the rest of his life in a high security clinic. he was found to be suffering from a severe mental illness when he killed three people with a knife before attempting to kill three others. he'd stopped taking his prescribed medication and says he could hear voices in his head, and three psychiatrists agreed that a hospital order would be the best course of action. in other news, baroness michelle mone and her husband

have had their assets frozen following an application by the crown prosecution service. the financial times is reporting that amounts to around £75 million of assets. it comes as the couple are being investigated for their involvement in supplying ppe dunng involvement in supplying ppe during the pandemic. michelle mone had previously admitted she did lie when denying connection. she had two medpro, which made profits of £60 million as an the average monthly rent for a home outside of london is at a record high of nearly £1,300. rightmove says agents are typically receiving around 11 inquiries for every rental property on the market, and the website predicts that rents will be 5% higher outside of london by the end of this year and up to 3% in the. capital that's the latest from the gb news room for now. for more. we're on tv on digital radio and on your smart speaker. just say play gb news now though. let's get more from .

though. let's get more from. martin thank . you sam. martin thank. you sam. >> now we start with the latest on the future of rishi sunak, the prime minister, and with the government, a massive 25 points behind labour in gb news people's poll , behind labour in gb news people's poll, is the prime minister facing a threat from within his own party? well, yesterday mr sunak told tory mps that they were making progress. but there's more talk today of a group called the conservative britain alliance , who had been britain alliance, who had been accused of undermining the prime minister. well, joining me now in the studio to discuss this is gb news political editor, christopher hope . who on earth christopher hope. who on earth are the conservative britain alliance ? its nefarious group alliance? its nefarious group seems to be up to all sorts of skulduggery . skulduggery. >> well, we don't know. and what are they doing? well, they're commissioning, polling, mrp polling seat by seat, polling over 10,000 people, taking part, looking at showing mps what will happenif looking at showing mps what will happen if you don't change the course of the party. they david frost, lord frost of course,

he's a former tory cabinet minister. he wrote an article in the telegraph supporting the polling, warning the government not not change, to change not not to change, to change tack see what might happen tack or see what might happen next. party, some clark next. the party, some clark remember him this week, he said mr must go and wrote mr sunak must go and wrote another article in telegraph, also supporting new polling by the same group. they're causing a concern in the tory party. nick true lord true has been appears to be meeting with david frost to say are you are you working with reform the reform party which is just, just biting at the ankles now of the tory party in second place, 25 points behind labour party . on 13. behind labour party. on 13. >> the reform party, um, they, they are constantly annoyance now for the conservative cause. that's right. >> earlier we spoke to richard holden. today's a day when the party should be seeing a boost in polls. it's the day when all of us get 2% cut. if you're working in national insurance contributions, but so far, nothing sunak has done contributions, but so far, notimoved sunak has done contributions, but so far, notimoved themsunak has done contributions, but so far, notimoved them in|ak has done contributions, but so far, notimoved them in the1as done contributions, but so far, notimoved them in the pollsyne has moved them in the polls upwards. and that's what's

worrying conservatives they upwards. and that's what's worryto; conservatives they upwards. and that's what's worryto; inzonservatives they upwards. and that's what's worryto; in poweryatives they upwards. and that's what's worryto; in power when. they upwards. and that's what's worryto; in power when thaty exist to be in power when that is not, is threatened or isn't happening, then it's a worry. is not, is threatened or isn't hapjearlier then it's a worry. is not, is threatened or isn't hapjearlier ihen it's a worry. is not, is threatened or isn't hapjearlier i did it's a worry. is not, is threatened or isn't hapjearlier i did ask a worry. is not, is threatened or isn't hapjearlier i did ask himyrry. is not, is threatened or isn't hapjearlier i did ask him about but earlier i did ask him about other the moment other issues. at the moment there's of conscription. there's talk of conscription. maybe a few years time maybe a war in a few years time with russia. i asked him this question war? i mean, there's war concern . will there be a war concern. will there be a will? will people be asked to drafted to try and fight the russians in eastern, eastern europe? that's coming from a top general. um, there's a concern that nato have warned of that this week. would you fight for your country ? your country? >> absolutely. it ever came >> absolutely. if it ever came to i certainly would. but to that, i certainly would. but i think just to be just put this in context, chris, i don't think we're anywhere near that at the moment. we've seen moment. i think what we've seen in ukraine horrendous in ukraine is a horrendous onslaught totalitarian onslaught from our totalitarian or dictator in or authoritarian dictator in moscow, and which is basically fought with huge amounts of money and working with his allies like iran , uh, to really allies like iran, uh, to really try and hammer a fledgling we know that brought to a fought to

a son. >> great question. you caught him off guard there. i've just had a quick look. he's 38, so he's still could nip in there . he's still could nip in there. >> you be reservist. yeah, i think he's too old for the army. that's 29. he might join the royal air force. yeah. um, he's probably with me with our pitch. pitch forks. uh, defending . uh, pitch forks. uh, defending. uh, mother, mother england, i think against the russian invaders . against the russian invaders. >> great question. thank you very much, chris, for joining us.been very much, chris, for joining us. been superb all week . us. been superb all week. excellent. and joined now by excellent. and i'm joined now by the conservative mp for east worthing and shoreham, tim loughton . tim, welcome to the loughton. tim, welcome to the show . so um, chris hope there show. so um, chris hope there fired the question to your chairman, richard holden . would chairman, richard holden. would you serve in the case of war with russia? might as well fire that one at you. would you serve, sir? >> well, of course i would. >> well, of course i would. >> but look at the colour of my hair. >> so if, um, if chris. >> hope. >> hope. >> chris. chris hope is going to be sergeant wilson, i'll be corporal jones, i suppose, in the home guard on that, that basis. >> yeah. i think we'd all be in

the dad's army. but i'm talking of a war like landscape. let's talk about week for rishi talk about the week for rishi sunak. talk about the week for rishi sunak . lots of plotting. it sunak. lots of plotting. it seems . lots of skulduggery. the seems. lots of skulduggery. the conservative britain alliance putting this polling out, throwing spanners in the work is the party at war with itself internally ? internally? >> well , this is the first i've >> well, this is the first i've ever heard of the conservative britain alliance. >> who are they? >> who are they? >> and chris couldn't say who they who they are. i think they've the media and whoever gone into overdrive because some of my colleagues have been pretty silly saying things that are really not helpful at all. there are a few of my colleagues who seem to like to see their faces on the on the media, saying things that are not helpful to their constituents, not helpful to the to the government , and not helpful to government, and not helpful to the to country . and then we the to the country. and then we have all these families and have all these five families and all complete nonsense. all this complete nonsense. >> never been a member of >> i have never been a member of any these, uh, fantasy or any of these, uh, fantasy or real factions that exist or

don't exist . i have been a don't exist. i have been a member of the conservative party for the last, um, 47 years. and that's all i'm interested in. and i think some of my colleagues need to focus on that, as most of us want to, uh, to do, rather than coming up with all these little conspiracies so that people in the media can come up with all these fantastic organisations the media can come up with all these 1theastic organisations the media can come up with all these 1the conservative tions called the conservative britain alliance , and i'm sure alliance, and i'm not sure actually exists. >> okay, tim, could ask you >> okay, tim, could i ask you about we've been covering about a case we've been covering this that, of course, is this week that, of course, is that of waldo khalife carney, the killer in nottingham. the triple killer in nottingham. and the mother of one of the victims, grace o'malley kumar. um was saying that she would like to see mandatory jail terms for those carrying knives , for those carrying knives, especially because we hear today of the possibility that calocane could be up for review in as little as three years. what would you like to see done about knife crime in a week when the concert natives are pledging to clamp down on it ? clamp down on it? >> this is a really gruesome ,

>> this is a really gruesome, uh, case and if you're a parent of one of the young people involved, um, there, it's really hard to appreciate the pain that they've they've gone through. >> and then to have the prospect that somebody who has been committed to a psychiatric high security hospital may have liberty in in a few years time is deeply worrying. i hope he won't. i hope he's there for a in whatever form of incarceration he needs to be locked up for a very, very long time. knife crime is a real problem, particularly in london, actually . actually. >> the figures that have just come out show that knife crime in the rest of the country, and violent crime has actually been falling. >> but in london it's on the it's on the rise and we've got big problems with, with gangs and and everything as we and drugs and everything as we as, as we know, there's absolutely no excuse for anybody to be in possession of these zombie knives. machete. bruce some things that are created

purely to impose violent injury on on people . there's no on on people. there's no justification at all. so i want to see and the law is going to be toughened up about people caughtin be toughened up about people caught in possession of those. and we need to go after the people who are actually selling them, because often they're them, because too often they're available the internet available on the on the internet as, well. but we've as, as, as well. um, but we've also to look at why are also got to look at why are young people and, and particularly people from bme communities are being communities who are being stopped searched , uh, stopped and searched, uh, carrying because they are carrying them because they are the ones who are the most likely to be victims as, as well. so we've got to have things like, um, stop and stop and search, use properly, used appropriately, because the people, frankly, who should be most in favour of that are those who tend to tend to be the biggest victims. and that's young black men in particular. we need a wage , a war about we need a wage, a war about against people who are carrying these, uh, these knives . the these, uh, these knives. the penalties need to be much tougher. whether it's a first time mandatory, uh, sentence or

just or escalating the penalties after after that, there's no excuse for carrying or possessing these sorts of weapons . weapons. >> and i think that's the kind of detail people would really like to see. i spoke with ken hines , who's a youth worker. hines, who's a youth worker. he's involved in the stop and search monitoring group and he said that simply limiting the supply of zombie knives and machetes won't be sufficient. after all, you can go ikea after all, you can go to ikea and obtain a deadly weapon. surely the answer is stiffer. sentencing norman brennan we had him from the law and order foundation shortly a while ago. former matt cooper, 30 years of campaigning against knife crime, saying we need more stick campaigning against knife crime, sayi lesse need more stick campaigning against knife crime, sayi less carroti more stick campaigning against knife crime, sayi less carrot . more stick and less carrot. >> i think you you need to have really effective, tough penalties so that if you are going out with intent, with one of these things, there is a very, very strong likelihood . very, very strong likelihood. one, you're going to be picked up. you need to be caught. and two, that there is going to be a very tough penalty that will involve deprivation of your

liberty for a meaningful amount of time . but the trouble is, of time. but the trouble is, it's not these knives that injure people, it's the person carrying the knives that cause them to cause injury. carrying the knives that cause them to cause injury . and they them to cause injury. and they can do equal damage with a bread knife , a pen knife or something knife, a pen knife or something you legitimately will have in your kitchen at home. so we've got to get to the intent of the people, of carrying those, uh, of those things. and why they need to have them out in public and why they think they need them, either to keep them safe or because they want to maliciously do serious or because they want to maliciouto do serious or because they want to maliciouto somebody. serious or because they want to maliciouto somebody. and )us or because they want to maliciouto somebody. and those damage to somebody. and those people need to taken out of people need to be taken out of circulation as possible. circulation as soon as possible. >> okay. tim loughton, conservative for east conservative mp for east worthing and shoreham, thank you very us on gb very much forjoining us on gb news i'm joined now by news now i'm also joined now by commentator, political commentator, political commentator spencer. commentator peter spencer. peter, welcome to the show. it's always a pleasure. i'd like to talk to you about the polling this week. there's been some polling out. seems peter, no matter what rishi sunak does, he can't nudge these polls up. and

meanwhile the reform party are nibbling away on 13. the tories cannot get off 20. meanwhile labour are soaring away . can labour are soaring away. can rishi do anything to turn this around ? ed? around? ed? >> well , that's a very, very >> well, that's a very, very good question and i suspect the answer would probably be no. thatis answer would probably be no. that is certainly the calculation. one of those conspirators who would like to oust him , who are small in oust him, who are small in number, but deadly in purpose, and okay, we had that . we had and okay, we had that. we had a former cabinet minister sticking his head over the parapet last week and saying, right, well, we changed leader or we're massacred. well that went down like balloon . but i think like a lead balloon. but i think these guys are playing a slightly longer game here. we have a couple of by elections coming up which the conservatives are likely to lose. and then we have the march budget. now, i'm sure that that sunak and jeremy hunt are making nice noises about what nice tax cuts we're going we're going to

be getting. but that doesn't necessarily mean that's that's actually going to play as well with the punters as they would like to hope. and if that doesn't provide a boost, then i suspect these conspirators are thinking , suspect these conspirators are thinking, you suspect these conspirators are thinking , you know, suspect these conspirators are thinking, you know, just suspect these conspirators are thinking , you know, just maybe thinking, you know, just maybe this might be the point at which you'll get the magic. 53 conservative mps , um, calling conservative mps, um, calling for a vote of no confidence in the prime minister and then there will be a contest, and it's worth remembering how quickly things can change, however implausible they seem. it seems only yesterday that margaret thatcher announced that when she had it facing a contest of this nature, that she said had said, i fight to win and i carry on fighting . and then the carry on fighting. and then the next day she threw in the towel, and a week later, in her final cabinet meeting, she said , it's cabinet meeting, she said, it's funny, old world. >> that's a very good impression for a friday. almost uncanny. peter um, the polls are predicting, if we believe the

polls, the conservative britain alliance this week saying it would be ten years of labour power , it'll be a wipe—out. and power, it'll be a wipe—out. and in poll after poll after poll, peter , people seem to trust keir peter, people seem to trust keir starmer, the labour leader . on starmer, the labour leader. on everything. much more than rishi sunak on the economy , on the sunak on the economy, on the nhs, even on immigration. so it seems, does it not, that no matter what rishi sunak does, he simply can't turn this oil tanker around ? tanker around? >> yes. i mean, that's an extraordinary thing when you think about it, that , that, think about it, that, that, that, that. um, keir , that keir that, that. um, keir, that keir starmer, bless him , i mean he starmer, bless him, i mean he has he sealed the deal with the voters. i mean it's quite difficult because you look at him and you and you listen to him and you and you listen to him and you and you listen to him and say, well, i'm ever so sorry to have to say this, but i'm not a terribly charismatic person. but the fact is, he hasn't made his policy hasn't really made his policy platform particularly clear. and that's that's that's quite, that's that's good. sensible politics. good. that's sensible politics. but at this stage, you're right, martin, all he's got to do is not very and not be the

not say very much and not be the tory and liable to tory leader. and he's liable to be next prime minister instead. >> what's been interesting, peter, lot of people peter, is that a lot of people in the past that might have got labour some bad press, have been very gagged. saw very well gagged. i saw dawn butler in parliament the other week. i thought, i haven't seen you in a while. same with clive lewis, same with diane abbott, even with angela rayner. so keir starmer running starmer seems to be running a very ship and keeping them very tight ship and keeping them on a on a narrow tack. and they're not making the kind of mistakes ordinarily the mistakes that ordinarily the tory party would be leaping upon on. >> on. >> absolutely right . i mean, it >> absolutely right. i mean, it is to be noted that sue gray factor here, who is very clearly a very, very effective operator. she's running her his operation and she's she's very clearly doing the outreach in all the right directions , making all the right directions, making all the right directions, making all the right noises to the right people. and indeed , it also has people. and indeed, it also has to be said that actually , keir to be said that actually, keir starmer has done a pretty effective job in since he's been the leader of decarbonising . if the leader of decarbonising. if you like the party, that is to

say, basically chucking out all the left wingers who would have given him grief and they're no longer anywhere to be seen. .1.2 of course, when they're looking at the prospect and i think it is looking increasingly likely prospect that they're going to be the next government. best not to rock the boat at this stage, eh? >> yeah . peter spencer, that 80 >> yeah. peter spencer, that 80 seat majority seems a long, long time ago now. doesn't it? thank you. peter spencer also enjoyed this. rory bremner style delivery on some of your impressions there. very good. now sources have said the king has undergone his treatment for an enlarged prostate and is doing well. king charles was seen entering the london clinic this morning with the queen at his side. the same hospital, of course, where the princess of wales is being cared for after her abdominal surgery. well, let's cross now. live to the london clinic and speak to our royal correspondent , cameron royal correspondent, cameron walker. cameron, welcome to the show and some fabulous feel good news for a. friday >> yeah, it is something

positive to go into the weekends. martin we know that the king. i've been told that he has had his treatments for an enlarged prostate and that he is doing well, and perhaps indication as to how well it's goneis indication as to how well it's gone is watching queen camilla exit the hospital. elizabeth, earlier today she was all smiles. she didn't answer any questions from the media when she got into her car, but she did wave at us when she left. it's understood. inside the hospital, she told a few people that the king was was doing fine as well. so that is a positive step . they left clarence house step. they left clarence house this morning. the king and the queen together arrive here at the london clinic. clinic ahead of the king's treatment . but of the king's treatment. but first of all, they visited another member of the royal family inside this hospital. and thatis family inside this hospital. and that is the princess of wales. if you remember, she underwent abdominal surgery at the beginning of last week and is going to be in hospital or has beenin going to be in hospital or has been in hospital since then, and the king and queen visited. as we understand it, it is quite rare that members of the royal

family visit each other in hospital, shows hospital, which perhaps shows just and united the just how close and united the bond between those senior bond is between those senior members of the royal family . and members of the royal family. and of course, it's also rare that a member of the royal family would disclose his private medical information . but disclose his private medical information. but i'm disclose his private medical information . but i'm told the information. but i'm told the king chose to disclose the fact he had an enlarged prostate to try and encourage other men his age, and perhaps slightly longer, to check out their symptoms and get seek advice from professionals. if from medical professionals. if necessary. and on that note, buckingham palace released a statement this morning when the king went into hospital, they said his majesty to said his majesty would like to thank who have sent thank all of those who have sent their good wishes over the past week delighted learn week and is delighted to learn that diagnosis is having that his diagnosis is having a positive impact on a public health issue. he underwent a couple of engagements yesterday at sandringham house and also posed or was filmed lighting a candle alongside the queen for holocaust memorial day, so he tried to pack in as many engagements as possible ahead of this treatment because now he isn't undergoing , he isn't doing

isn't undergoing, he isn't doing any engagements at the moment for the foreseeable future. neither is the princess of wales, the prince of wales and the queen perhaps will do some more later into february . but as more later into february. but as we go into the weekend, martin, positive news, as you say, the king's surgery, as we understand it, has gone well. but we have the king and the future queen inside the same hospital in london . london tonight. >> fabulous. so thank you cameron wark for that update. live from the london clinic and get well soon, both of you. your majesty's now the world of football was stunned today after liverpool managerjurgen klopp liverpool manager jurgen klopp announced he's quitting at the end of this season. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news

gb news. britain's election . gb news. britain's election. channel. welcome back. >> it's 528. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now to the day's huge football news. jurgen klopp is to step down as liverpool manager at the end of this season . he said he didn't want season. he said he didn't want to wait until he was too old to live a normal life. but the news has stunned most liverpool fans and everyone's shocked. >> everyone's shocked me . >> everyone's shocked me. >> everyone's shocked me. >> it'sjust >> everyone's shocked me. >> it's just like the middle of a season. we're still in four out of four competitions but absolutely flying. >> yes, there's been injuries and yes, there's been a few problems, but we're in we're in pinnacle form, you know, with the players coming through now. and this halfway and um, to renounce this halfway through the season, we've just

beat fulham there and you know we're going into a final. it's like what is going on? >> it's hard to put into words. >> it's hard to put into words. >> shocked. >> shocked. >> what everyone >> shocked is what everyone probably well. probably thinks as well. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> um, he's not just a manager. >> um, he's not just a manager. >> he's not just a manager. he's a man for the city as well. he's just brings everything to the city, club. shocked just brings everything to the city, devastated i. shocked just brings everything to the city, devastated . shocked and devastated. >> well, massively surprised. i think all the liverpool fans are surprised. um yeah. it feels like member the family died like a member of the family died from being totally honest. it feels. deep that . feels. it feels that deep that. >> yeah. just surprised . >> yeah. just surprised. >> yeah. just surprised. >> welcome. now speak with sports journalist ben jacobs. ben, welcome to the show. an emotional press conference and emotional press conference and emotional announcement tonight. and it just seems that jurgen klopp is admitting he's run out of steam. he said we are not young rabbits anymore but left liverpool fans heartbroken . liverpool fans heartbroken. hello mate . he's having trouble hello mate. he's having trouble heanng hello mate. he's having trouble hearing me . hello mate. he's having trouble hearing me. right. i'm going to

i'm going to, i'm going to riff on this. what basically happened is he said in the press conference earlier, which we carried the at carried live on the show at 3:00. you have to be on top of your game, he said. and he's beenin your game, he said. and he's been in the game 24 years and my resources are not endless. that's what he said very much the feeling that he simply is exhausted . we are not young exhausted. we are not young rabbits anymore , but he did say rabbits anymore, but he did say that he would never manage another english club, which which would have would have come as a small crumb of comfort to liverpool fans. one six trophies, of course, at liverpool and still could win four more, including the premier league, is still in the carabao cup. europa league and the fa cup, so he could end on a huge high note. that would be the hollywood ending. that's certainly what liverpool fans will want , but i'm sure other will want, but i'm sure other clubs, including those in manchester, famed for its reign, would like to reign on that parade. nevertheless, massively well—liked gaffer will be sorely missed and looks like he

deserves a rest now . there's deserves a rest now. there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00. a man in texas is suing a company for over $10 million after a mistake by facial recognition technology landed him in jail. so how dangerous is artificial intelligence? but first, here's your latest news headlines with sam francis . sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much. and good evening from the gb newsroom. the headlines at just after 5:30 there may be more tax cuts to come in a second tax cutting budget before a general election in the autumn. it follows this month's reduction in national insurance contributions, with . the contributions, with. the government claiming it will save people around £450 a year. as we've been hearing jurgen klopp has promised he will never manage another english club. after announcing he is stepping down liverpool's manager at down as liverpool's manager at the this season, the end of this season, liverpool was transformed under

his leadership , winning six his leadership, winning six trophies including the premier league 2020, their first in league in 2020, their first in 30 years, and the champions league a year before . the queen league a year before. the queen has told people inside the london clinic that the king is doing well after undergoing treatment for an enlarged prostate. buckingham palace says his majesty is delighted to learn that his diagnosis is having a positive impact on pubuc having a positive impact on public awareness . before public health awareness. before his operation , the king his hospital operation, the king is understood to have also visited princess wales, who visited princess of wales, who is also recovering from surgery . is also recovering from surgery. the foreign secretary says progress is being made to release hostages still being held by the hamas terror group. speaker in turkey after a middle east tour, lord cameron said a sustainable ceasefire is possible . he's also working to possible. he's also working to get more aid into gaza, with israel said to be considering a british proposal to open its ashdod port, one of three main cargo points and the attorney general will consider a review of valdo calocane sentence after

receiving a complaint that it could be too lenient. the nottingham killer was given a hospital order yesterday and will likely spend the rest of his life in a high security clinic. he was found to be suffering from a severe mental illness when he killed three people with a knife before attempting to kill three others and you can get more on all of those stories and many more by visiting our website, gbnews.com i >> -- >> fora >> for a valuable legacy your family can own, gold coins will always shine bright. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , and news financial report, and here's a last look at the markets. >> the pound will buy you $1.2715 and ,1.1700. the price of gold is £1,587.42 per ounce, and . the ftse 100 has closed at

and. the ftse 100 has closed at 7635 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . thank sponsors the gb news financial report. thank you sam. >> well joining me now is emily carver, who tonight has transitioned into michelle dewberry standing in for dewbs& co 6 or 7. of course, emily, what's on your menu? >> only it is me, emily carver. i am standing in for michel. uh, it should be a fantastic show . it should be a fantastic show. really. we've got a huge amount to get through this evening. so as you it's been revealed as you know, it's been revealed that nottingham could that the nottingham killer could potentially be up for release in just three years. i mean, what do you make of that, martin? it's an astonishing story. >> i just cannot believe it. yesterday, the family said that calocane had cheated the courts and had got away with murder. today a fresh insult piling misery upon those grieving families . misery upon those grieving families. emily, i cannot believe it. yeah, so the

question tonight is, should the attorney general , should the attorney general, should the attorney general, should the attorney general, should the attorney general who is reviewing this case, send it? >> refer to refer the case to the court of appeal. many are saying it's far too lenient . the court of appeal. many are saying it's far too lenient. but what the judge ruled in this case will be debating that also, the shocking, shocking descriptions of this , uh, descriptions of this, uh, capital punishment in an alabama stomach churning stuff. but it does, of course, raise that perennial debate about whether capital punishment should be brought back. and i don't know if you've seen this big, if you've seen martin this big, rich list, this tax list for this year. there are some massive taxpayers in this country. should we be grateful ? country. should we be grateful? should we say thank you? or should we tax them even more? you've got the likes of jk rowling on there. you've got the likes of ed sheeran, even lots of famous on there. bernie of famous names on there. bernie ecclestone course, slapped ecclestone of course, slapped with tax bill as well. so with a big tax bill as well. so we'll be debating that at great. >> so great show . that's emily >> so great show. that's emily carver standing in for dewbs& co dewbs& co six till seven. right

after this. like after this. sounds like a cracker. thank much. cracker. thank you very much. now in texas, a man in texas is suing the parent company of sunglass hut for $10 million for being falsely identified as the suspect in a robbery. 61 year old harvey murphy jr was thrown in jail for a crime he didn't commit. and while in prison, horrifically, he was gang raped by three men. now the company used a.i. and facial recognition software to determine that murphy was the robber. but of course he wasn't. this was a huge miscarriage of justice. and join me now is the broadcaster futurist and ai expert and drew ebel and andrew, welcome to the show again . this is a harrowing show again. this is a harrowing story, andrew, and one that would ask big questions about al, software and facial ai, software and facial recognition and can it be trusted? now you're absolutely right to question everything . right to question everything. and the important thing to recognise on this , martin, is

recognise on this, martin, is that it was just a tool to help in the investigation. when you dig a bit deeper into the story, they say that they only had a very old photo of the relevant person . the cameras in the store person. the cameras in the store were pretty shoddy and not doing very, very good quality. but what happened is they then looked at the database of images and came up with this particular person's name as a suspect. so all that would then do is say, look within our areas of inquiries, we should be looking at this particular person , ask at this particular person, ask about them, and so on and so forth . now the evidence seems to forth. now the evidence seems to suggest, from what i've seen in the reports, that the person was several miles away and there were various other things, so they had an alibi and so and they had an alibi and so on, and so forth. they weren't allowed they had an alibi and so on, and so identity|ey weren't allowed they had an alibi and so on, and so identity paradeen't allowed they had an alibi and so on, and so identity parade andallowed they had an alibi and so on, and so identity parade and there d an identity parade and there were various other things, and there was even suggestions that they told that the they were told that one of the witnesses to identify witnesses was told to identify why this particular person so there's all sorts of things. and i always say artificial intelligence a very helpful intelligence is a very helpful tool, but it is a tool and other elements need to be brought into

play elements need to be brought into play to sure you have those play to make sure you have those safeguards. but andrew, actually, he was 1900 miles away. he was in a different state. he was in sacramento , state. he was in sacramento, california. this crime took place in houston, texas . and place in houston, texas. and isn't this just an example? once again, a bit like the horizon scandal in the post office? we seem to believe everything technology tells us, when really it's just a tool and we shouldn't slavishly adhere to it . but i think that's absolutely right . and as i say, what it right. and as i say, what it would be doing is saying, okay, here are the people we should be talking to, and that's what they should have done. it sounds, though, other processes, though, the other processes, as you with any criminal you would do with any criminal case, were not followed. so getting statements working getting the statements working out, alibi ? he out, does he have an alibi? he works on that sort of premise. so the whole idea about artificial to artificial intelligence is to eliminate a number other eliminate a number of other things, to it more things, to make it more efficient, but obviously it's not to be the be all and not going to be the be all and the end all. they had very old photos. a camera which photos. it was a camera which was as good as it could be.

was not as good as it could be. so not as sharp. and the person it sounds as though had an excellent so of those excellent alibi. so all of those things have been brought excellent alibi. so all of those thingevidence, have been brought excellent alibi. so all of those thingevidence, and�* been brought excellent alibi. so all of those thingevidence, and he en brought excellent alibi. so all of those thingevidence, and he couldyught excellent alibi. so all of those thingevidence, and he could have into evidence, and he could have been very early on been eliminated very early on from the fact of the from inquiries. the fact of the matter is, andrew, we matter is, andrew, whether we like not, and many people like it or not, and many people don't , um, facial recognition don't, um, facial recognition technology increasing technology will be an increasing part of law and order. cameras are all over the place now in major cities. you can't move around london without getting scanned. seemingly for every single misdemeanour or indeed even when you're passively walking down the street or driving. we're all being monitored scanned all the monitored and scanned all the time. the police now want to put driving license photographs onto the the national the crime database. the national crime can cross—reference crime agency can cross—reference . that means we're all potentially at the risk of being wrongly identified. unless we're very, careful . very, very careful. >> so, yes, you absolutely see. >> so, yes, you absolutely see. >> and we should always, as i always urge people to do, is question everything. saying that what happens is this is to basically whittle down the list of suspects. it's a the difficulty as well, martin, is that it's not just the that it's not just about the facial recognition, it's

facial recognition, but it's also how people they are also how people walk. they are using this to identify potential criminals. say, well, people with these particular facial characteristics have been known to commit crime in the past. now that's got all sorts of biases in it, which needs to be looked at. but what i say about artificial intelligence, it's learning all of the time. and those imperfections are basically getting refined. there are biases and discrimination that need to be looked at. but as i emphasise throughout, it is as i emphasise throughout, it is a tool and it's a tool in an investigation. if you have no suspects, um, and you've got a whole pool of zillions of people, it makes it very difficult . what this does is difficult. what this does is whittle down the list of suspects to make it more efficient. what should have happened as i say, with the perfect alibi, 1900km away or miles away is a pretty good alibi to me . miles away is a pretty good alibi to me. um, you miles away is a pretty good alibi to me . um, you should work alibi to me. um, you should work on that sort of principle. the other factors come into play, so it should be a useful tool. but not the be all and end all. okay. andrew eborn, thank you for joining us a horrific forjoining us on a horrific case that will ask many to us

case that will ask many of to us requestion the productivity and the usefulness of facial recognition technology. thank you very much. now 25 republican state governors are backing texas sensationally in their battle with joe biden over the mexican border. astonishing story . i'm mexican border. astonishing story. i'm martin mexican border. astonishing story . i'm martin daubney mexican border. astonishing story. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel .

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yean making the decision late last year, so a big surprise for liverpool fans and us in the media as well. but liverpool's owners, fsg were informed almost three months ago, so there is a succession plan in place. but a huge surprise on the same day that liverpool also lost their sporting director , who will sporting director, who will leave at the end of january as well . so it's all change leave at the end of january as well. so it's all change and naturally klopp is thought of extremely highly in the world of football. >> roberto de zerbi, who might be of the candidates to take be one of the candidates to take the job, said that the liverpool job, said that he's up there with the very best, including guardiola best, including pep guardiola and ancelotti marcelo and carlo ancelotti and marcelo bielsa , the former bielsa, the former leeds manager, well . manager, as well. >> and will obviously be >> and klopp will obviously be known winning the champions known for winning the champions league and leading league in 2019 and leading liverpool to first league liverpool to their first league title 30 years in 2019, 2020. title in 30 years in 2019, 2020. he almost won the quadruple as well and now in the second half of this season, maybe he'll do the same thing again and get over the line with four trophies. it's a big ask, but liverpool are fighting on all fronts. >> yeah, superb. we'll have to leave it there. we're just out of time. ben jacobs, thanks for

joining us. sports journalism there still be that there still could be that hollywood for jurgen hollywood ending for jurgen klopp there for klopp as you said there for trophies grabs, including trophies up for grabs, including the premier league. now yesterday spoke about the yesterday i spoke about the united as migrant crisis united states as migrant crisis and between joe biden and the clash between joe biden and the clash between joe biden and the clash between joe biden and the governor of texas, greg abbott. abbott has strengthened the mexican border by installing 30 miles of razor wire. supreme court has ordered for it to be removed , however, but now 25 removed, however, but now 25 states governors have sided with texas and against joe biden. abbott says the us president is doing nothing to stop illegal migration. well, to discuss this, i can now speak with our us political analyst, eric hamm. eric, welcome to the show. an astonishing mexican standoff on the border. 25 states against joe biden . what's the latest and joe biden. what's the latest and where will this end ? where will this end? >> yes, this is certainly becoming more intense by the day. we see that the governor of texas has already defied a

supreme court order to bring down the razor wire by actually extending it. down the razor wire by actually extending it . now, we know that extending it. now, we know that several state governors have already agreed to volunteer to send their national guard troops to texas to help with this effort to continue to add that razor wire and also , we've heard razor wire and also, we've heard from donald trump saying that he believes that the governor is in the right and should continue to do so. now we're beginning to hear from a number of democrats who are saying that president biden needs to actually federalise the national guard and stop them from doing this. so when you talk about a mexican mexican standoff , this is also mexican standoff, this is also looking more and more like a state versus the government standoff. that's taking place inside the united states right now. i mean, eric, to those of us watching this from this side of the pond, it seems like an internal war about about illegal migration into america. >> the figures we can't really

comprehend, 1200 per day. we were told by seb gorka earlier , were told by seb gorka earlier, could be as many as 9 million or even more. yesterday greg swensen told us it could be as many as 20 million have come across that border. what are we heading for now? the situation where in the where joe biden sends in the national remove national guard to remove walls from texas . this would be total from texas. this would be total anarchy . anarchy. >> well, i think we're already at that precipice. in fact, we know that the irony of all of this is that it appears as though that the congress was on the verge of a deal to actually address this issue, where president biden had capitulated and given republicans every thing they wanted on this issue of immigration. but now we're learning that donald trump has actually reached out to republicans in both the house and senate, saying, don't move on this because they don't want to give president biden a win on immigration, heading into an all important election. and so some of the things that republicans have been calling for decades are now now looking like they're

off the table waiting for the outcome of this election. and we know this has been an issue. the pnor know this has been an issue. the prior party for not just many of these lawmakers, but also for many of the voters in iowa and . many of the voters in iowa and. new hampshire. the primary issue that they have said is the big issue for them is this issue of immigration. and now it looks like a deal that was in the making could be off the table. >> and briefly, eric, video has emerged of barack obama emerged today of barack obama calling the borders to be calling for the borders to be shut. years ago , precisely shut. many years ago, precisely the now seems the same thing. now that seems to issue. how to be a republican issue. how big a deal will immigration be at the next presidential election? >> i think for not just republicans, but for even some democrats, this is becoming an increasingly problem issue because of so many people attempting to come across the border right now. and this has been an issue that has vexed the biden administra ation since their inauguration. and clearly it's going away. but what we

it's not going away. but what we are seeing is this is going to be that republicans are be an issue that republicans are going to fight on. the question is, they actually is, can they actually get something the something done before the election ? election? >> huge question, >> that's the huge question, eric. hmm. fascinating stuff. it really is a huge mexican standoff in america. thanks for joining us on gb news was an election we got coming up. that's november the 5th. talk about fireworks. now, would you add pineapple to your full engush add pineapple to your full english breakfast? pineapple was a high status breakfast item more than 400 years ago, and now the english breakfast society wants us to replace mushrooms or tomatoes with fresh or even tinned or grilled pineapple . tinned or grilled pineapple. well, joining me now is celebrity chef aldo zilli, an absolute legend in the game. aldo, welcome to the show. now, this might have a lot of people in england clutching their pearls. i think the idea has merit. what do you say ? merit. what do you say? >> i think it's a marriage made in heaven myself . in heaven myself. >> i mean, don't talk to me about pineapple on pizza, but.

but pineapple for breakfast? >> why not? >> why not? >> you know, it's got to be healthier than bacon . healthier than bacon. >> yeah, well, i think i think the point is, though, a&e, you have it with it and don't forget tomato. there it is. there's a plate of a fryer with a plonked slice of pineapple on top. looks like it's can to . see me like it's from a can to. see me that looks delicious. sweet and soun that looks delicious. sweet and sour. savoury and sweet. what's not to like? >> well, i mean, you know, pineapple is a fantastic fruit. >> i eat it every morning, but i don't eat it with my breakfast. >> i don't fry anything. i neven >> i don't fry anything. i never, to be fair, here. um, you know, there are desserts in italy that people use pineapple and they grill it and then they serve it with ice cream , uh, or serve it with ice cream, uh, or other things. so it has been used in kitchens for a long, long time. >> and , but eaten raw. >> and, but eaten raw. >> and, but eaten raw. >> i mean, it's probably one of the best fruit , uh, to eat. um, the best fruit, uh, to eat. um, you know, all year round . and you know, all year round. and now, you know, the british

people want to put it on breakfast. i would say no, no problem . why not? i mean, it's a problem. why not? i mean, it's a it's a great fruit. so let's eat more of it i'd say. yeah >> and basically it means you're getting one of your five a day as you tuck into your cumberland and your smoked back. i think that's what we would call that's that's what we would call a balanced diet. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> jeff . definitely one of your >> jeff. definitely one of your five a day . five a day. >> do you think this will catch on, or do you think all the things remain like an outlier of anidea things remain like an outlier of an idea a bit too cavalier for most? >> yeah, exactly . >> yeah, exactly. >> yeah, exactly. >> okay. aldo dodi , thanks for >> okay. aldo dodi, thanks for joining us on the show. we'll leave it there. i don't know about you. you guys out there. i'm a huge fan of pineapple. i like it in all of its formats. i like it in all of its formats. i like it in all of its formats. i like it with gammon. i often get called gammon myself, but i like pineapple and gammon like pineapple and gammon like pineapple and i think pineapple on pizza. and i think having it on a fry up is a fantastic idea. why not, you know, vive la difference. it's a great that's it. i'm great idea. now that's it. i'm done for the week after. this is dewbs& co this week with emily

carver discussing some of the things we've been talking about here including that that things we've been talking about here of including that that things we've been talking about here of valdo cluding that that things we've been talking about here of valdo calocane|at that things we've been talking about here of valdo calocane couldt things we've been talking about here of valdo calocane could be case of valdo calocane could be out in as few as three years. i think that's an absolute travesty. the family or grieving, this is misery upon misery. i'll be back next week , misery. i'll be back next week, monday to friday, from westminster 3 to 6 pm. i've been martin daubney after this dewbs& co have a great weekend . dewbs& co have a great weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again! it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . what a beautiful blue skies out there for many of us and it stays clear in the south overnight where it will be chilly, but it remains blustery further north and this north—south continues north—south divide continues into the weekend with low pressure towards the far north, sending some weather fronts into the north and northwest of scotland. showers or longer

spells of rain continuing overnight here, along with a gusty wind. a lot of cloud for scotland , northern ireland, scotland, northern ireland, northern england . 1 or 2 showers northern england. 1 or 2 showers in these places, but actually for uk away from the for much of the uk away from the far north, it's a dry and clear night and with light winds in the south, a few mist and fog patches are possible. first thing this weekend and it will be chilly. first thing temperatures are degree or three below freezing in some sheltered parts of southern and southeast england, but that's where the best of the sunshine will be for much of england, wales, southern and eastern scotland also seeing some but for the some bright spells. but for the north and northwest scotland, north and northwest of scotland, outbreaks gale force outbreaks of rain and gale force winds with gusts of 60 or even 70 miles an hour, increasingly cloudy into the afternoon and increasingly breezy, but most places will see temperatures up at 9 or 10 celsius or so. so a relatively mild afternoon . relatively mild afternoon. sunday starts off with cloudier conditions and windier conditions and windier conditions nationwide. eventually, it turns wetter across scotland and northern

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