after being sentenced to a hospital order. meanwhile, a prisoner in alabama has become the first inmate in the world to be executed with nitrogen gas. the witness accounts require strong stomachs. is the death penalty inhumane? you tell me . penalty inhumane? you tell me. also tonight, the 2024 tax list is out, but are the super rich paying is out, but are the super rich paying enough ? can you guess how paying enough? can you guess how much tax the number one person paid last year? i'll tell you shortly. and to the opposite end of the scale and new figures today show the rate of shoplifting in england and wales has hit its highest level for more two decades. there more than two decades. is there ever any excuse to shoplift ? ever any excuse to shoplift? plus, is marriage on the way out 7 plus, is marriage on the way out ? the proportion of married people in england and wales has fallen below 50% for the first

time. should our politicians do more to uphold the nuclear family ? or is it none of their family? or is it none of their business? frankly and finally, claudia schiffer has caused quite the stir this week after parading her cat in a rucksack down the red carpet , experts say down the red carpet, experts say the cat would have been stressed should pets ever be used as fashion accessories . right? fashion accessories. right? well, a lot to get through in the next hour. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . get your latest news headlines. >> emily, thank you very much. and good evening from the gb newsroom. it'sjust and good evening from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 6:00. the headlines. there may be more tax cuts to come in a second. tax cutting budget before a general election in the autumn . general election in the autumn. it follows this month's reduction in national insurance contributions , with the contributions, with the government claiming it will save people around £450 a year. the tory chairman , richard holden, tory chairman, richard holden, told gb news earlier that workers will feel the benefits

as we're coming out of that very tough period and we're able to outline our plans the future. >> i think the actual tax cut. you mentioned the national insurance cut for working people is the start of that. we'll see more of that in march and more of later in the year as well. of it later in the year as well. but we that new direction but we have that new direction of travel, which clear . of travel, which is clear. >> secretary for >> but shadow secretary for women and equalities anneliese dodds says people are still worse off. >> what we've seen under the conservatives has not been tax cuts. we have actually seen tax rises 25 of conservative tax rises 25 of conservative tax rises just since the last general election. and the reality dodi of the national insurance so—called tax cut, it was actually just giving people back. was actually just giving people back . £2 of every extra £10 that back. £2 of every extra £10 that they're going to be paying in tax. so i'm afraid this is a bit of a tax con to sport. >> jurgen klopp has promised he will never manage another engush will never manage another english club. after announcing he's stepping down as

liverpool's manager at the end of this season , liverpool was of this season, liverpool was transformed under his leadership, winning six trophies including the premier league in 2020. that was their first in 30 years and the champions league a years and the champions league a year before. speaking to reporters this afternoon, he said there'll be plenty of time for a transition, even with all the responsibility you have in this job and these kind of things, you have to be absolutely on top of your own game. >> that's how it is. and i am, um, but i'm doing this for 24 years now. i realised, um, that this is that my, my, my resources are not endless . resources are not endless. >> in other news, the un's top court has ordered israel to take measures to prevent genocide and to punish those who may incite it . a large majority of the 17 it. a large majority of the 17 judges in the hague voted for urgent action to improve humanitarian situations in the region, but fell short of ordering a ceasefire in gaza. instead, the court ordered israel to refrain from any acts that could fall under the genocide convention. israel's prime minister benjamin

netanyahu says israel, though, won't be deterred from defending itself. the charge of genocide levelled against israel is not only false, it's outrageous and decent people everywhere should reject it. >> on the eve of the international holocaust remembrance day, i again pledge , remembrance day, i again pledge, as israel's prime minister, never , ever again. israel will never, ever again. israel will continue to defend itself against hamas , a genocidal against hamas, a genocidal terror organisation . on october terror organisation. on october 7th, hamas perpetrated the most horrific atrocities against the jewish people since the holocaust and it vows to repeat these atrocities again and again and again . and again. >> meanwhile , the foreign >> meanwhile, the foreign secretary says that progress is being made to release hostages that are still being held by the hamas terror group. speaking in turkey after a middle east tour, lord cameron said a sustainable ceasefire is possible. he's also working to get more aid into gaza, with israel said to be considering a british proposal to open its ashdod port. one of three main cargo points . back

three main cargo points. back here in the uk , the attorney here in the uk, the attorney general will consider a review of valdo calocane sentence after receiving a complaint that it could be too lenient. the nottingham killer was given a hospital order yesterday and will likely spend the rest of his life in a high security clinic. he was found to be suffering from a severe mental illness when he killed three people with a knife before attempting to kill three others. he'd stopped taking his prescribed medication and said that could voices in his that he could hear voices in his head. that he could hear voices in his head . three psychiatrists agreed head. three psychiatrists agreed that hospital order would be that the hospital order would be the best course of action. baroness michelle mone and her husband have had their assets frozen following an application by the crown prosecution service . the financial times is reporting it amounts to around £75 million of assets. it comes as the couple are being investigated for their involvement in supplying ppe dunng involvement in supplying ppe during the pandemic. michelle mone has previously admitted that she did lie when denying connections. she had with medpro, which made profits of

£60 million. and finally, the queen has told people inside the london clinic that the king is doing well after undergoing treatment for an enlarged prostate . buckingham palace says prostate. buckingham palace says his majesty is delighted to learn that his diagnosis is having a positive impact on pubuc having a positive impact on public health awareness. and before his hospital operation. today, the is understood to today, the king is understood to have visited the of have visited the princess of wales, also recovering wales, who is also recovering from surgery . that's the latest from surgery. that's the latest from surgery. that's the latest from the gb newsroom for now for more, we're on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. just say play gb news now though, let's get more from . emily. >> well, welcome to dewbs& co with me, emily carver. tonight now with me this evening on this friday evening, i have the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie . thank you forjoining mackenzie. thank you for joining us. and the trade unionist and broadcaster, paul embery. thanks to you too. i haven't seen you for a while. no it's been a

while. you. yeah, yeah, i used to sometimes do this slot for jews, but it's been a it's been a think. so it's a few months i think. so it's nice to be back at this time of the evening. now you can get in touch with everything we're talking this uh, show. so talking about. this uh, show. so gbviews@gbnews.com. talking about. this uh, show. so gbview do;bnews.com. talking about. this uh, show. so gbview do;bnevrin:om. messages. please do send in your messages. or, we're on twitter or, of course, we're on twitter if prefer, at gb news. we do if you prefer, at gb news. we do monitor those as well. now let's start probably the biggest start with probably the biggest story week, the biggest story of the week, the biggest tragedy the tragedy and also possibly the biggest injustice of the week . biggest injustice of the week. the nottingham triple killer valdo calocane sentence could be referred to the court of appeal. that's after the attorney general received a complaint arguing that the sentence just too lenient. we've also learned that calocane may be eligible for release in just three years, could be eligible for a release now. yesterday, calocane was sentenced, of course, to a hospital order that was for fatally stabbing three people barnaby weber, grace o'malley kumar and ian coates. barnaby weber, grace o'malley kumar and ian coates . now, the kumar and ian coates. now, the victim's families have . i've victim's families have. i've been very vocal in criticising

this sentence. mr webber's mother, emma, accused the police of having blood on their hands while mr coates son james. he says the killer got away with murder . so says the killer got away with murder. so should there be an appeal? kelvin, what do you make of this? of course. diminished responsibility was the reason why he was given manslaughter and therefore a hospital order is that justice? and do you think this should go to the court of appeal? >> i, to be honest with you, i think it's a very difficult legal area. the truth about the matter is that that the cps , um, matter is that that the cps, um, followed the guidelines and the guidelines were quite clear that in the event and there were three psychiatrists who said this, that he was suffering from severe psychosis and therefore he couldn't be charged with murder. however as the mother points out in every other respect, outside the psychosis, this was a planned killing . he this was a planned killing. he went and bought. he he bought he bought the weapons to do the killing. he lay in waiting . killing. he lay in waiting. right. this was all pre—planned .

right. this was all pre—planned. and, um, the issue there is one other issue that emerges in all this, which is quite serious, that if in the event under the treatment of the hospital order, this, this , this, this killer this, this, this, this killer can actually end up if he turns out to be quote , cured, unquote, out to be quote, cured, unquote, of his psychosis, he could in fact, bizarrely, not have to serve his sentence in a jail. and the other issue that emerges with this particular guy is that his psychosis is triggered off when he doesn't take the drugs. so supposing he decides to take the drugs now because he's a cunning killer? suppose he decides to take the drug drugs in the hospital, gets quotes cured ? can he then walk after cured? can he then walk after three years? and this is this is a mistake. almost certainly a mistake. by by the judge in one of the orders. so i think you're going to find that when the attorney general revisits this and sends this back to the court

of appeal, that i think that particular alleyway will be blocked. >> well, paul, that's not actually that far fetched. is it? he could take his medicine. he could appear to be well enough to be, uh, back in the community and then could pose a threat in the future. it could could happen. >> it's a horrendous crime, emily. but i do think we need to be careful about assuming that we know better than the medical professionals . i we know better than the medical professionals. i mean, i have to say, i largely agree with kelvin. you had in fact, it was four psychiatrists. they went to the unusual step of getting a fourth psychiatrist, uh, medical expert, and they all agreed with each other and they all said, actually, this guy is a paranoid schizophrenic. he was suffering from a mental health episode. psychosis. when he carried out these these wicked acts and consequently , we, you know, we consequently, we, you know, we cannot treat it as a straightforward murder , a straightforward murder, a callous, cold blooded murder in the way that we would other callous, cold blooded murders

and that's very, very difficult for the parents to swallow , the for the parents to swallow, the family to swallow completely, understandably. i think if it was a member of my family who was a member of my family who was a member of my family who was a victim, you would want to rail against that. you would want to protest, you would want to say, look, this is unfair. it's unjust. this this man must be sent to prison for the rest of his life. but actually, you do to defer to the medical do have to defer to the medical experts on stuff like and do have to defer to the medical ecannot)n stuff like and do have to defer to the medical ecannot believe like and do have to defer to the medical ecannot believe that and do have to defer to the medical ecannot believe that for and i cannot believe that for a qualified psychiatrist would have come to exactly the same conclusion in in terms of that particular killer's health, mental health. and unless there was really something in it. >> yeah , completely. take take >> yeah, completely. take take your point. but they're experts in their field. they're not thinking about justice. and it is the victims families who will in many ways serve a life sentence. we heard multiple times from the brother of grace o'malley kumar and destroy it is an understatement. yeah >> it's true. and so it's difficult for, you know , people difficult for, you know, people in a television studio trying to

trying to encapsulate the emotion of somebody being simply coming home in the early hours from the to their university, uh, setting and losing their life and the family then getting a phone call which says, well, instead of getting a21, i'm afraid your child is now dead. and but the most worrying aspect of all this is , is okay, so it's of all this is, is okay, so it's the cps who made up their the mind on this. so this was east midlands cps on a on a crime of this size and i don't i'm not trying to be i'm not trying to be rural about it or suburban about it is it entirely the, the decision of the east midlands cps to be to decide what should happen when the crime is as large as this shouldn't this go up to the i mean, the equivalent after all, starmer was was the was uh was the dpp should it go up to somebody like a, you know, at the top of the tree rather

than, rather than somebody at the bottom look or midway look? i do understand there are rules about this stuff . and i think about this stuff. and i think they followed the rules . that they followed the rules. that isn't going to make the parents any happier, isn't it? >> because it's law versus justice in some cases , or justice in some cases, or appears to be in this kind of case? yes, i'm dave, he's saying every law seems to favour the criminal. are we thinking too much about the criminal and the fact he had this mental disorder? and whether the victims, the victims families feel a sense of justice? is that more important? even in in theory, i know obviously we operate under a legal system, but we're not thinking just about the criminal. >> if it's backed up by a legal or medical evidence, the or by medical evidence, if the medical is such that medical evidence is such that they were, they were right. the psycho trysts. think we psycho trysts. and i think we accept are then it's accept that they are then it's not a question of not getting justice. can't send someone justice. you can't send someone to prison and you can't to a prison and you can't convict murder . if convict them of murder. if you've got overwhelming medical evidence at the time evidence saying that at the time they the acts, they they committed the acts, they were not in control of

themselves and therefore , themselves and therefore, therefore it right . therefore it wasn't right. >> so here's here's one other point. if somebody who is suffering from that kind of psychosis deliberately chooses not to take the drug, this is a decision. the reason they don't take it is because it changes them, and they don't like being changed. this happens in a lot of areas. my question is, are you then guilty right of a different crime than if you were taking the drugs and then you carried out? i think if you knew, if you knew that you were likely to commit a heinous act as a result of not taking the drug, which he would have known, he would have known , then he would have known, then i think there is some argument to say there was such was the personal negligence once that actually should culpable, actually you should be culpable, whether it's or something whether it's murder or something or something else. >> i and i mean, >> but i guess, and i mean, i don't know, but i guess that the guy didn't realise that in not taking the drug he was likely to commit these sorts. >> well, well, actually, when you look into his background,

when don't know if you when you i don't know if you would ever be able to write. well, when you look into his background, he shocking background, he had a shocking background. on, on, on background. i mean, on, on, on the he in every so the estate he lived in every so often for some reason, often not clear to anybody. would go clear to anybody. he would go and down their door. can and smash down their door. can you like? you imagine what that was like? >> emerged that he >> also emerged that he assaulted people. only assaulted two people. only weeks before to kill these before he went on to kill these three people. >> and he was. >> and he was. >> and he was. >> and wasn't arrested. >> and he was. >> and he wasn't arrested. >> and he was. >> and he was1't arrested. >> and he was. >> and he was a arrested. >> and he was. >> and he was a regulard. >> and he was. >> and he was a regular user of cannabis. and we can't ignore that this discussion. in that in this discussion. and in fact, jacob rees—mogg, think, fact, jacob rees—mogg, i think, raised show last raised it on on his show last night where said, actually, night where he said, actually, you such was the person's you know, such was the person's use of cannabis and we know that there is these days we know there's showing there's evidence showing a correlation excessive correlation between excessive cannabis use and mental health disorders. um, yes. cannabis use and mental health disorders. um, yes . and i do disorders. um, yes. and i do think that question needs to be examined. i'm moving towards we need to look at that. the liberalisation that's becoming more about liberalisation, decriminalisation , varne, um, of drugs. >> perhaps these sorts of issues haven't been taken. >> well, i tell you what, if even around my way in weybridge in surrey , honestly, i walked

in surrey, honestly, i walked through an absolute fog of the stuff the other night. it was unbelievable . and the and the unbelievable. and the and the and the and the girl. she was a girl because i think she was about 18, right? who was using it? right. which simply smoking outside the station , i mean, outside the station, i mean, hundreds if not thousands of people walking by. nobody gave a stuff. it was incredible. there was a car parked out outside where i live all night one evening, and they were all with those balloons. >> it's been or whatever they are. >> it's been decriminalised, isn't it? yeah. essentially has essentially has been decriminalised. a lot of the country. the biggest, the country. and the biggest, the biggest myth you in biggest myth which you hear in political often in political argument very often in this is that the war on this country is that the war on drugs has failed. actually, when you at cannabis, in reality you look at cannabis, in reality there war on drugs there hasn't been a war on drugs for years. people, people for many years. people, people are essentially free to take it and they're to free and they know they're to free take it. right. >> well, shall we move to alabama? there, alabama? because a man there, kenneth become the kenneth smith, has become the first inmate in the to be first inmate in the world to be executed . uh, but with nitrogen executed. uh, but with nitrogen gas , the witness accounts, they

gas, the witness accounts, they really do require a strong stomach . uh, really do require a strong stomach. uh, is this really do require a strong stomach . uh, is this totally stomach. uh, is this totally inhumane? is the death penalty inhumane? is the death penalty inhumane? or in some circumstances, can it be justified? paul, i'll start with you on this one. >> i think in some circumstances it can. you might be surprised to hear somebody like me on the left saying that, but i think of someone like ian huntley . left saying that, but i think of someone like ian huntley. um, and i find it very difficult to accept that someone like ian huntley , who killed those, those huntley, who killed those, those two girls in soham should be allowed to live the rest of his natural life. and die a natural death. >> what about this method? i mean, the description. >> i think this is appalling. actually, i think from the reports that we've seen that this guy allegedly thrashing this guy allegedly was thrashing on the gurney and writhing on for up to 20 minutes, some of the reports say, and this is the first time i think nitrogen. nitrogen has been used in this way. um, i mean, it reminded me i don't to be too graphic, i don't want to be too graphic, but reminded me of reading

but it reminded me of reading the reports the holocaust the reports of the holocaust when gassed the when people were gassed in the gas in holocaust. gas chambers in the holocaust. this sitting there in in this guy sitting there in a in a face mask with the gas being pumped in, thought was pumped in, i thought was actually when you actually horrific. and when you look at the way that he struggled, in struggled, you can believe in the but believe the death penalty. but believe also should not also that people should not suffer unduly. kelvin i think this guy's, uh . this guy's, uh. >> well, it it wasn't as inhumane moratorium on this method, i should say that . okay, method, i should say that. okay, well, well, they tried to kill him before with an injection, and that didn't work. so that was. what was that? that was about two ago. so that's not. >> he's back. >> he's back. >> so this back in the day, if it work the first time it didn't work the first time they didn't try again. yes know. >> well that was quite wrong. and i was i was delighted and so i was i was delighted that it's not as inhumane as his actions which as a hired actions in which as a hired killer, stabbed to death . um, killer, he stabbed to death. um, uh, the lady and the family that were all there , they couldn't were all there, they couldn't give a damn. they were pleased to him go. and i was pleased to see him go. and i was pleased to see him go. and i was pleased to him go. to be honest, to see him go. to be honest, i don't even know it. >> no. okay. fair enough. kelvin, that's one argument to

say. him go say. we're pleased to see him go because he was a wicked killer. and i'll go with that. it and i'll go along with that. it was a wicked killer, no question about point of about that. but the point of this did deserve this story is, did he deserve does anyone, if they've does anyone, even if they've been sentenced to death, deserve that of suffering their that kind of suffering on their deathbed, if they're deathbed, where if they're thrashing around and writhing and they're pain for 20 and they're in pain for 20 minutes, you accept that minutes, do you accept that that shouldn't uh, no , not particularly. >> actually, enough, >> actually, funnily enough, i mean, bother. i honestly , i mean, not bother. i honestly, i honestly, he he has sacrificed any humanity on my part and there isn't much as you would agree, paul, on this, right? i don't have much humanity anyway, generally. i have no generally. and i have no humanity about that. generally. and i have no huractually. out that. generally. and i have no huractually. theniat. generally. and i have no huractually. then so barbarism >> actually. then so barbarism then should, know, we can then we should, you know, we can tear people , i think. i think we tear people, i think. i think we restore the death penalty. then we do what like. we we can do what we like. we should people to a of dogs. >> well, what would you prefer? hanging? would you prefer hanging? really hanging? well, does it really matter die? i think. matter how they die? i think. does it? >> honestly, i think hanging is done and far more done instantly and he's far more humane a humane than having someone on a gurney 20 minutes thrashing around. >> okay, well, i'll buy that. paul

>> okay, well, i'll buy that. paul, i'm happy. i don't care as long as they die. i don't really care how they die. >> wasn't expecting >> i wasn't expecting this, uh, debate to come to down the method. yeah, uh, of which is used. know what they do used. but, you know what they do do every now and again do polling every now and again on punishment . and i on capital punishment. and i think comes down to about think it comes down to about half, does in this half, half it does in this country. it does. >> you look at the political >> if you look at the political establishment parliament, >> if you look at the political establnot1ent parliament, >> if you look at the political establnot reflected parliament, >> if you look at the political establnot reflected at �*liament, >> if you look at the political establnot reflected at allnent, >> if you look at the political establnot reflected at all in 1t, that's not reflected at all in the national debate. there's never really a national dup. >> i don't like it at all because i don't like the idea of eye for an eye. and revenge and because i don't like the idea of eye the an eye. and revenge and because i don't like the idea of eye the prospectnd revenge and because i don't like the idea of eye the prospect of revenge and because i don't like the idea of eye the prospect of maybe; and just the prospect of maybe getting wrong. getting it wrong. >> but you wouldn't if you didn't believe revenge or didn't believe in revenge or punishment. put punishment. you wouldn't put people for life then, people in prison for life then, would you? because that's. >> would, would, um, >> well, i would, i would, um, i'd on. let's just say, i'd go easy on. let's just say, the victim's family, if they decided to, uh, would decided to, uh, what would you what them decide. >> let them decide. >> let them decide. >> well, obviously not. no, we can't live in a society where people just take revenge. well, the family of this, the family of the victim in this case were absolutely delighted. >> and they were sitting there watching couldn't watching it, and they couldn't they couldn't give a damn about

they couldn't give a damn about the twitching away. and to the guy twitching away. and to be fair, what i and neither could i was convicted. >> so long ago. it seems bizarre to now. >> well, that's america for some. for some reason it gets strung out. but but i mean, you know. well on the huntley case, this academic debate, this is an academic debate, isn't it? because the is, isn't it? because the truth is, there's absolutely chance there's absolutely zero chance of coming back. mean, you of it coming back. i mean, you know, you don't have, uh, enough parliamentarians who are willing to reflect the public mood on it. they would be worried about what people say what people would say internationally britain's internationally about britain's reputation world and so reputation in the world and so on. so there's absolutely no chance coming back. but chance of it coming back. but but for the david's written in paul and he says, if we want a humane method to terminate a criminal's life, why don't we use that switzerland use the method that switzerland uses euthanasia? uses for euthanasia? >> people getting in >> so people are getting in touch their, uh, know . touch with their, uh, you know. >> yeah, they've they've got they've got solutions. >> so there you go. um, well, please do keep your views coming in. i will get more of them, in. i will get to more of them, of course, but up, as we of course, but coming up, as we pour the pockets of pour over the pockets of britain's top taxpayers, do we

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listening to gb news radio. in 2020 for gb news. >> is britain's election channel. come and join me this thursday in scunthorpe. live by scanning the qr code or going on gbnews.com to get your ticket for the event , we'll be for the event, we'll be discussing things like why the green agenda is risking jobs in places like scunthorpe . well places like scunthorpe. well welcome back to dewbs & co with welcome back to dewbs& co with me, emily carver, and still keeping me company until 7:00, is the former editor of the sun , is the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, and the trade unionist and broadcaster paul emery. unionist and broadcaster paul em�*now must read this out from >> now i must read this out from keith to provide some to keith to provide some balance to that conversation , although that conversation, although i think did little bit, he think i did a little bit, he says. emily, i agree you. says. emily, i agree with you. capital punishment is categorically not the way to go. do you really trust the british justice it right?

justice system to get it right? nine out of ten, they'd nine times out of ten, they'd get the wrong man. well, i'm not nine times out of ten, they'd get tabout)ng man. well, i'm not nine times out of ten, they'd get tabout nine1an. well, i'm not nine times out of ten, they'd get tabout nine timesell, i'm not nine times out of ten, they'd get tabout nine times outi'm not nine times out of ten, they'd get tabout nine times out of| not sure about nine times out of ten, but i. i take your point that you can get it wrong and then it's just absolutely barbaric. i genuinely do not like of an eye for an like the idea of an eye for an eye. it's a bit old testament, isn't it? but hey, let's move eye. it's a bit old testament, isn'the but hey, let's move eye. it's a bit old testament, isn'the formery, let's move eye. it's a bit old testament, isn' the former formulafove eye. it's a bit old testament, isn'the former formula one chief on. the former formula one chief who admitted fraud bernie ecclestone, is one of the two billionaires topping this year's times tax list. he's contributed to get this an eye—watering £650 million to the exchequer just over the past 12 months, is quite extraordinary. but there is a but while the majority of us are paying more tax than we can remember, more than two thirds of the super rich who are on that list last year are now paying on that list last year are now paying less so so, in paying less s. so much so, in fact, that the total is down by £200 million. so that's equal to the funding £200 million. so that's equal to thethe funding £200 million. so that's equal to thethe nhs funding £200 million. so that's equal to thethe nhs this funding £200 million. so that's equal to thethe nhs this winter. funding £200 million. so that's equal to thethe nhs this winter. should for the nhs this winter. should the rich be taxed more or do we actually demonise them a bit and they deserve a bit of a thank you. i mean, none of us are ever going to be on this tax list. i

mean, imagine £650 million in one year. kelvin is hell yeah. kelvin. >> yeah, £650. yeah. >> yeah, £650. yeah. >> to be fair, bernie >> well, to be fair, bernie ecclestone a particular case. ecclestone is a particular case. in 615. he had a big tax bill that he hadn't paid. and it was to do with offshore accounts and all of that sort of stuff. anyway, a big tax bill, £650 million. so kelvin, do you think we've got a bit of a dodgy relationship with the with the rich in this country. >> well the, the reason that ecclestone paid that 650 million is if he didn't he was off to he was off to jail . so he, he, he was off to jail. so he, he, he had he had a choice which will be the same choice that goes to joe louis, the former owner. now his family, owner of tottenham hotspur. exactly. the same. he will pay an enormous amount of money. but dealing with the money. but but dealing with the substantial point that, um, the, the truth about the matter is that 50% of this country, or just under 50, don't pay any tax at all. they don't pay income tax. they're quick to point out they pay vat, by the way. but and so the burden of taxation

falls on a smaller group . that's falls on a smaller group. that's true. yeah. and it's something like it's something like the top the top pay something like 33. those people who pay over 45% tax pay something like 33% of all tax, they are paying more than their fair share. they are subsidising the lives of people who can't actually live the life, who cannot live the life. >> well, hang on without. so we've got alex gurko here because i know what you're going to say, paul. and i will let you say it, obviously, but alex gurko, a moscow born maths whiz, turned renounced his turned trader, renounced his russian . founder of russian citizenship. founder of markets . £664 million. he's markets. £664 million. he's >> how much is he worth, emily? >> how much is he worth, emily? >> well, billions. clearly. well, exactly. >> so you have to put it in perspective for the five richest families in britain who have more wealth than the poorest 20% of the population . i checked the

of the population. i checked the figures this evening. the richest 10% of households in britain have half of the nation's wealth. now, what we're seeing in this country is the concentration on more and more of wealth in the hands of a small minority. we're seeing an increase in the gap between rich and poor. we're a rich country. we sometimes forget that we're a rich country, but too much wealth is concentrated in too few hands. that is not good for social stability. for a country that wants to be at ease with itself. and neither, by the way, is it good for economic performance because all of the all of the studies show that actually the bigger, diverse science there in wealth science there is in wealth between poor, the more between rich and poor, the more faultering an economy can be as a result. so actually , i think a result. so actually, i think there are some people who are doing very nicely still in this cost of living crisis. some of our corporations are registering record profits , the banks are record profits, the banks are making mega billions as a result of all of the interest, the interest rate rises, the total is down by 200 million this yeah >> in terms of this tax.

>> in terms of this tax. >> but the point i'm making, emily, is there are not making as big a profit point that i'm making is that there are some people who are still doing very, very as i say, the banks, very well as i say, the banks, some of record corporations, very well as i say, the banks, some of corporationsrations, very well as i say, the banks, some of corporations posting some of our corporations posting record city record profits, you've got city bonuses you've bonuses going up, you've got directors pay going up. and at the time, people at the the same time, people at the other end the scale are other end of the scale are constantly told you have to tighten and tighten your belts. and we're seeing increase that gap. seeing the increase in that gap. and there will come a point, i think, where people say, look, we're prepared we're just not to prepared accept most accept this anymore. most people, think, are in favour people, i think, are in favour of getting and earning of people getting on and earning profits, pay profits, but you have to pay your share and there are too many people. >> but but you see where i disagree with you, is disagree with you, paul, is i think, i think are paying think, i think they are paying their is that their share. the problem is that what want, we want labour what we want, we want and labour want. by the way, uniquely, i'll be i'll be amazed if any of this happens. right. what they want, we pie bigger we want the pie to get bigger and want everybody. i want and i want everybody. i want everybody to be wealthy, if that is possible. that is not possible in the same way as i am. look like brad pitt, am. i don't look like brad pitt, right? let's be honest. come on.

well, in the old days, slightly brattish, but not really. and therefore life is not fair. but what you're trying to do is taking the bumps. you're trying to take the bumps out of life . to take the bumps out of life. >> know what you're doing, kelvin, is you're saying, oh, this to do. we this is what we need to do. we need to allow the rich to get ficher need to allow the rich to get richer and make more profit, because will happen is the because what will happen is the wealth, the trickle down the wealth, the trickle down to the and there's problem and it's there's one problem with it. it's complete nonsense. no, it's been no, actually, wherever it's been tried. whether was tried. no. whether it was here in under margaret in the 1980s under margaret thatcher, was in the thatcher, whether it was in the us with ronald reagan other us with ronald reagan and other parts world, trickle down parts of the world, trickle down does not. >> untrue, untrue. average earnings in the united states are $66,000 a year. over here. it's just over 30,000. i want that average earnings to be 66. the way it not to get them is to keep on saying honestly, what we're going to do is we're going to take all that money from the 50, the 50% who pay the tax and give it all to the 50% who don't pay give it all to the 50% who don't pay tax. >> so if you're in favour of the

poor earning more and increasing in their own way, i am. yeah. >> as as there's >> as long as there's productivity associated it. productivity associated with it. >> you supported a strike by workers increase their wealth. >> i have never supported. there you never >> i have never supported. there youwell,iever you go. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> even even even among sun >> so even even even among sun journalists . by the way, when journalists. by the way, when i was a journalist myself, i was the one standout of workers fighting. i am not in favour of doctors leaving people to die literally in hospitals . literally in hospitals. >> pull the strikes, don't always come with the promise of higher productivity or a wish for higher productivity. i mean, union often is a desire to cling to , on you know, antiquated work practices. >> unions will always have those discussions. but but people are entitled to get a decent pay increase. just just on its own terms because of the cost of living crisis and the rate of inflation. they're entitled to ask for that. well, look, getting, getting in touch from home, richard, he the rich home, richard, he says the rich should as they are should be celebrated as they are in america. >> there reason why they >> there is a reason why they have most dynamic, have the most dynamic, disruptive and companies disruptive and biggest companies on something to

on earth. wealth is something to aspire be depressed and aspire to, not be depressed and salty he tax the salty about, he says. tax the rich less. >> uh, well, yeah, it's funny you say that because. you should say that because. because shadow because allegedly the shadow chancellor . right? because allegedly the shadow chancellor. right? miss because allegedly the shadow chancellor . right? miss reeves because allegedly the shadow chancellor. right? miss reeves , chancellor. right? miss reeves, she has she has hinted and i cannot believe this, that they were thinking of reducing taxes for, for the for the super rich. now, paul , for, for the for the super rich. now, paul, are you for, for the for the super rich. now, paul , are you where will now, paul, are you where will you vote if that becomes if that becomes the labour manifesto, i will i will vote labour but i will i will vote labour but i will inside the movement. >> kelvin, i will be having i will be making my feelings known about that, that that would be an extremely regressive thing. i think, for any labour government you disagree with many of the you disagree with so many of the priorities party. priorities of the labour party. >> still . >> i'm amazed you still. >> i'm amazed you still. >> they need to they need to start listening me. emily start listening to me. emily yeah, start listening to me. emily yeamaybe start listening to me. emily yea maybe they will. now should >> maybe they will. now should we get on to one another we just get on to one another topic, which is in a way, uh, unked topic, which is in a way, uh, linked at the other end of the income new figures, uh, income scale, new figures, uh, show shoplifting in show the rate of shoplifting in england wales hit england and wales has hit its highest two highest level for more than two decades. 400,000 shoplifting offences in months. that offences in just 12 months. that is quite incredible .

offences in just 12 months. that is quite incredible. is offences in just 12 months. that is quite incredible . is there is quite incredible. is there any ever any excuse to shoplift if you have absolutely no money? you have children in need of food ? i'd, uh, would there be, food? i'd, uh, would there be, would you say, all right. you know . know. >> right. >> right. >> i think that loaf of bread. >> i think that loaf of bread. >> right. so i have i had a colleague who confessed to me that actually when he goes to his local supermarket , typekit, his local supermarket, typekit, through a sleight of hand, he takes the prices off one item which will say was £3.20 £0.27 and sticks it on to something that was worth you mixing, giving people ideas. come in. well i don't think. i don't think the gp gb news viewers well that's a very interesting people who have very strong views about justice and crime and all the rest of it do people now view shoplifting as a political crime if you're poor , political crime if you're poor, or are they actually doing it because they think they can get

away with it? and i think if you had a if you had a supermarket executive on there, they're saying that everybody is now becoming a criminal who comes in now of those bars. and now because of those bars. and that's have cameras that's why they now have cameras on they're not not on them. they're not not to listen paul's views on listen to paul's views on politics, this shoplifting politics, on this shoplifting ever justified, i think, in in everjustified, i think, in in extremists where someone genuinely is suffering poverty or they can't afford to feed their children, there , but for their children, there, but for their children, there, but for the grace of god go we. >> so in those circumstances, actually i think morally it is justified . i suspect there are justified. i suspect there are probably not a huge numbers of people in the country who would find themselves fitting into that and i do think to that category, and i do think to a certain degree, we're getting to a point where shoplifting has almost become decriminalised now, are just i was now, where people are just i was in wh smiths at liverpool street station some time ago, and i saw this guy next to me who was just sweeping the, know, sweeping all of the, you know, the chocolate and everything into and i thought he was into a bag. and i thought he was someone who there. and someone who worked there. and then i him disappear out then i saw him disappear out of then i saw him disappear out of the door, you realise the door, and then you realise actually, was just brazenly,

actually, he was just brazenly, brazenly stuff. brazenly nicking the stuff. >> your panel >> paul says. does your panel consider be a victimless consider it to be a victimless crime? a shop owner may work very serve the very hard to serve the community, to have their community, only to have their livelihood stolen. shoplifting is why do we is theft never okay? why do we trivialise by trivialise trivialise it by calling it something cuddly? >> the police >> but it's because the police effectively didn't they, effectively said, didn't they, that any crime, if it's under £200, we aren't going to turn out. but remember , it was the out. but remember, it was the police who wouldn't even turn out for burglaries. now they're forced turn out for forced to turn out for burglaries. i think we should either more police or get either hire more police or get better chief constables and get start attacking these people who are literally causing prices to go up. after all, i read today that our our the turnover in a supermarket company is 6% is now going on. i was going to have to silence you just for now because we're going to have to get to a break because coming up is marriage on the way out. >> this is dewbs

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>> this is jeeves and co with me, emily carver, and keeping me company still is the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie and the trade unionist and broadcaster paul emery. now lots of have been getting in lots of you have been getting in touch do the rich pay touch about tax. do the rich pay enough should them enough tax? should we tax them more? christine of course more? christine says of course we the rich more . we should tax the rich more. about time the loopholes were plugged make them pay their plugged to make them pay their fair the question fair share. i guess the question is how much is your fair share? how much is the fair share as as kelvin did point out, the top one, the top 10% do pay an awful lot of the income tax that a lot of people rely on, ted says. some tax from the rich is better than nothing. if you over tax the rich, they'll move to another country with less tax. yes i wonder what it would take for the likes of rowling or for the likes of jk rowling or ed to base themselves elsewhere. >> isn't that isn't that holding the ransom? isn't the country to ransom? isn't that people criticise trade that when people criticise trade unions going on strike unions for going on strike because their members more because their members want more money? why is it acceptable money? why? why is it acceptable for very rich person say for a very rich person to say unless tax rates low

unless you keep tax rates low and do what i want, i will go off? i'm not saying, but they do it anyway, don't they're it anyway, don't they? they're holding it anyway, don't they? they're hol sog it anyway, don't they? they're holsog take that guy who >> so you take that guy who who now owns 25% of manchester united, where is he making all his decisions from? he's making decisions from monaco . decisions from monaco. >> do think they should be >> do you think they should be able the country to able to hold the country to ransom that? ransom in that? >> think they're held in >> i don't think they're held in the to i mean, the country to ransom. i mean, after after all, the guy, the guy, the guy who invents all those vacuums and everything like employs 3000 people like that employs 3000 people down in cotswolds. down in down in the cotswolds. >> think a trade unionist >> you do think a trade unionist standing line asking standing on a picket line asking for attention? >> think, i think when >> i think i think, i think when a doctor is prepared to let my mum by railway worker or a mum die by a railway worker or a cleaner or a well, take the railway workers if they're prepared, if they're prepared to say, actually, do know say, well, actually, do you know what this is a complete joke. what we do actually, don't what we do actually, we don't need we don't need 8% of them. 9. as much money 9. they can have as much money as like. but they carry as they like. but if they carry on saying, we want keep on just saying, we want to keep our terms conditions and we our terms and conditions and we want 10% rise. i'm not want the 10% pay rise. i'm not in favour of it. >> well, tim asks a simple question. he says the panel,

question. he says for the panel, how can the rich if the how can the uk be rich if the national is more than gdp? national debt is more than gdp? thatis national debt is more than gdp? that is a good question. are we still know we're not rich or are we beyond our means? we living beyond our means? >> are living. we are living >> we are living. we are living beyond means and have done beyond our means and have done for actually, for donkey's years and actually, all chickens are coming all these chickens are coming home and not going home to roost and it's not going to better. under labour. to get any better. under labour. so the thing admire about so the only thing i admire about starmer, least he's now starmer, at least he's now beginning say aren't going beginning to say we aren't going to money at all. and to spend any money at all. and thatis to spend any money at all. and that is to be a very, very that is going to be a very, very good day for us all. >> and what will that mean for pubuc >> and what will that mean for public services? what it public services? what will it mean for investment? what will it for competitiveness? it mean for competitiveness? well, going to well, you're going to have to have starmer have a word with mr starmer about i am not to about things i am not here to all of defend it, all of the all of the defend it, all of the things, all of the things that flow government pump flow from a government pump prime and prime in the economy and spending money investing. spending money and investing. what roll back the what you want is roll back the frontiers of the state, don't spend anything. >> i much prefer, >> and i would much prefer, i would prefer as apart from would much prefer as apart from the get richer. the rich, you will get richer. i would much prefer, as would doctors not to have to work for would much prefer, as would d

that for and one you that one you pay for and one you don't pay move on. don't pay and move on. >> could there be trouble in paradise? there be this paradise? there may be on this panel paradise? there may be on this panel, but i'm talking about marriage. of marriage. the proportion of people or older people aged 16 or older in england and who are england and wales who are married civil married or in a civil partnership fallen below partnership has fallen below 50% for first the for the first time. is the institution of marriage in trouble? should politicians be talking about the importance of marriage things, marriage and such things, or is that antiquated? should marriage and such things, or is that stick antiquated? should marriage and such things, or is that stick anti of ated? should marriage and such things, or is that stick anti of our? should marriage and such things, or is that stick anti of our personal they stick out of our personal business possible? business as much as possible? paul business as much as possible? paul, think should be paul, i think they should be talking family breakdown talking about family breakdown more, it's not more, even if it's not necessarily in the context of marriage. >> so many >> i think so many of our problems as a country are attributable to the fact that there has been massive family breakdown over recent generations, and the impact that that on children. all of the that has on children. all of the studies show that kids generally do better if they're brought up in stable family with two in a stable family with two parents, they do better in terms of educational outcomes. they do better in terms of their own health, their own emotional health. they do better in terms of opportunities of career opportunities and the ability to earn money and buy their own home in later life.

this is cast iron evidence that politicians , time and again, politicians, time and again, completely ignore because they're worried in their own words, of stigmatising single parent families and actually , parent families and actually, you know, there are many, many good single parents out there, we should say that. but the idea that we should we should shy away from saying the obvious, you know, backed up by all the evidence that kids are better off in two parent families and therefore we should encourage that as as we that model as much as we possibly it seems mad that possibly can. it seems mad that politicians so scared of politicians are so scared of saying that. >> always struck by how few >> i'm always struck by how few conservative politicians dare to talk like marriage , talk about things like marriage, right? miriam cates, for right? like miriam cates, for example , is conservative mp example, is a conservative mp who does dare to talk about this and she gets, uh, well , she gets and she gets, uh, well, she gets and she gets, uh, well, she gets a lot of abuse for it. and she gets, uh, well, she gets a lot of abuse for it . people a lot of abuse for it. people say, oh, what you say? what are you saying about single parents? or what are you saying about children from that children from from homes that don't uh, two married don't have, uh, two married parents? she's not criticising, saying or saying that those people are bad people or that single parents can't do a fantastic she's just

fantastic job. she's just saying that a of metrics, you that on a lot of metrics, you know, having two marriages is a good thing. >> well, i'm kind of an expert on all this because i've been i've been married twice and i am in a partnership up, um, now . in a partnership up, um, now. so, um, there is no, there's no dramatic same sex civil partnership . not not at the partnership. not not at the moment. not at the moment. but i'm thinking of trying that, you know. well, i'm too old to try things . well, you never things. well, exactly. you never say never say never. right. anyway enough of that. so inappropriate . so, um. so i, i inappropriate. so, um. so i, i think that, um, it works better. it's undeniable . it works better it's undeniable. it works better for the children. there is no doubt at all about that now. but they're not the only people to worry about. the people to worry about. are they people involved in the marriage or the partnership ? and if they're not partnership? and if they're not getting on, i don't know what effect that has on the children, but it isn't much of a good effect actually, on the on the, uh, mum and dad , is it? so uh, mum and dad, is it? so should they should you be forced

by the state to stay together? or should you accept as we do today, that there are lots of different models, different models? and what's happening is the explosion in the building industry is, of course, the single homes. sorry. >> on that note, coming up, the cat controversy, claudia schiffer carried her pet in a backpack to a film premiere. animal charities say it's concerning they could be stressed . what do you think? uh, stressed. what do you think? uh, let me know. we'll be back in a whisker. this is dewbs& co on gb news, and we'll get to some

>> welcome back. and i'm told this is the part of the show where we open jobs tavern. so i've got a little glass of prosecco, which is rather nice and, uh, they've got their beers, so they're happy. uh, my panel are happy. and of course , panel are happy. and of course, paul emery. sorry. that was rather, rather rude on the marriage stuff. um andy's written in, and he says, as a 55

year old lifelong singleton, i've always followed the marque's mantra marriage is an institution, but wants to institution, but who wants to live institution? so there live in an institution? so there you go. it's an institution that he doesn't want to, doesn't want to live in. other people have got in touch to say how wonderful married is, and wonderful being married is, and how good it is for children. and all uh, ian says all of this. uh, ian says marriage creates solid promise marriage creates a solid promise between and a woman. between a man and a woman. sadly, it's not promoted and, uh, ex and i had 25 uh, john says my ex and i had 25 years of happiness. then we met, and the sentence doesn't finish. so don't what happened. so i don't know what happened. um and, uh, matt and grant says marriage is set in the women's favour to break the contract , favour to break the contract, men would have to be fools to marry . well, happy friday to marry. well, happy friday to you. uh, i'm engaged. so, uh, it's in women's favour, then. you know, it's all to play for. um. so shall we move to on a bit of a bit of a lighter one to finish the show? it is a friday after all. claudia schiffer was spotted on a red carpet this week a rather controversial week with a rather controversial accessory was carrying her accessory. she was carrying her pet chip, in rucksack pet cat, chip, in a rucksack with window . there she is,

with a window. there she is, looking rather glamorous. the cat? this has cat? not so much. this has caused quite a bit of a stir. vets and experts of all piped up, and they've warned that chip the cat was most likely quite stressed by the situation. so should you ever use animals as a fashion accessory like this one? now i don't know if she was paid to sort of show off this backpack. probably >> well, her husband has just made that film argylle. and so this was designed to gain , uh, this was designed to gain, uh, pubuchy this was designed to gain, uh, publicity and it's worked and it's worked was on the front page of the times, and now it's on gb news. so everything's everything's good. my only question about vat vets is how do they know whether a cat is feeling stressed or not? i mean, honestly, i some and they would. have you seen the bills the vets charge for this kind of stuff. i mean look i, i have my doubts there may be vets among gb news viewers watching this right now who'll be able to tell us whether they actually cat cat is

does look pretty stressed there. >> i've got to say , doesn't he? >> i've got to say, doesn't he? >> i've got to say, doesn't he? >> he looks grumpy more than stressed. >> but i think you would be, wouldn't you, if you were stuck in someone's backpack? >> no. if i, if i was, if i was stuck in claudia schiffer's backpack, i would very backpack, i would be very relaxed. >> but you might not be able to breathe. and think breathe. kelvin and think how many that would many people that would upset. >> yeah. well, no. yes, exactly. >> yeah. well, no. yes, exactly. >> many people would >> and how many people would that number that please. and that number would be a lot lower. >> would want to see you >> no one would want to see you denied oxygen. >> i mean, paul, have >> i mean, paul, do you have a strong on you strong opinion on whether you should use animals as a fashion accessory? we're not talking about animals being about fur. no. animals are being hurt necessarily. don't hurt necessarily. i don't believe has been hurt believe this cat has been hurt in way, is it a bit, uh, in any way, but is it a bit, uh, tasteless? >> don't know why anyone would >> i don't know why anyone would want that to me, was want it. i mean, that to me, was just than cruel. just stupid rather than cruel. but an animal lover. i've but i am an animal lover. i've got dog. i do think, got a dog. and i do think, actually, that we should treat animals. i was going to say humanely, is obviously the humanely, which is obviously the wrong word, but we treat wrong word, but we should treat animals of dignity animals with a bit of dignity and a bit of compassion, and with a bit of compassion, and with a bit of compassion, and where people are cruel as they animals, they sometimes are, to animals,

then believe in, then actually, i do believe in, in, you know, the law taking a really tough line on people. >> some people prefer animals to humans, they ? humans, don't they? >> i've had, i've had >> um, well, i've had, i've had dogs , um, probably most of my dogs, um, probably most of my life now, and they are , they're, life now, and they are, they're, they're pretty good fun on the on the fashion accessory on the fashion accessory aspect. i'm old enough to remember when it was considered a sign of how well you've done in life. is if a if your partner would wear a mink coat , do a if your partner would wear a mink coat, do you remember that? and silver fox and all stuff. if you did that today they you'd probably be assaulted in the streets. >> so i think it's right you don't do those things because because you know, anything that involves animal suffering or killing animals , entertainment killing animals, entertainment or for fashion , which is why or for fashion, which is why i think one of the best things that the blair's new labour government did was, was banning hunting with dogs, which was absolutely the right thing to do . and although certain tories would like and certain members of landed gentry no of the landed gentry and no doubt no , actually

doubt you as well, no, actually i don't. >> i was raised in camberwell in south london. i the, the you ever did the, the, the foxes by the way by the look of round my way as well are actually running the joint now i wouldn't. >> jill says jill says cats or dogs should never treated dogs should never be treated like this. they are family members, albeit with legs, members, albeit with four legs, and be afforded the same and should be afforded the same respect, and affection . not respect, care and affection. not as this narcissistic woman has treated the poor animal disgraceful . it is not a trend disgraceful. it is not a trend or fashion accessory. strong stuff from jill . whereas mike stuff from jill. whereas mike says the cat should be okay. claudius should be used to doing the paul says the the cat walk and paul says the cat cat will have had the cat walk. cat will have had the time its life in that time of its life in that backpack. so there you go . backpack. so there you go. bright the cat chip. bright lights for the cat chip. well, that's all we've got. for . well, that's all we've got. for. time uh, thank you to my panel, kelvin . and, course, paul kelvin. and, of course, paul mbappe. up next. it is none other than lee anderson. please do have a lovely weekend and i'll see you back on monday. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> hello again . it's aidan >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. there will be a lot of dry weather this weekend. some rain in the far northwest. at first before it turns wetter across scotland and northern ireland afternoon, and ireland by sunday afternoon, and increasingly windy but essentially high pressure sits to the south. low pressure way to the south. low pressure way to the south. low pressure way to the north over iceland in between quite a tight pressure gradient and as a result, we're going to see a blustery end to friday across the north and northwest of the uk, particularly northwest scotland, where they'll continue to be showers or longer spells of rain. 1 or 2 spots of rain for northern ireland, northern england. but with the cloud and the it will the breeze here, it will be frost meanwhile, the frost free. meanwhile, in the south it will be frost free. meanwhile, in the s(chilly it will be frost free. meanwhile, in the s(chilly start it will be frost free. meanwhile, in the s(chilly start to it will be frost free. meanwhile, in the s(chilly start to the it will be frost free. meanwhile, in the s(chilly start to the day. will be frost free. meanwhile, in the s(chilly start to the day. a ll be frost free. meanwhile, in the s(chilly start to the day. a few; a chilly start to the day. a few mist patches here and there, nothing to extensive otherwise. plenty of and plenty of sunshine and temperatures rising the temperatures rising through the morning . as result, morning. as a result, a perfectly fine day on saturday for many parts of the uk. increasingly breezy to the north and the west ,

increasingly breezy to the north and the west, and some very wet and the west, and some very wet and windy weather for the far north of scotland later on for the west of scotland. feeling cold here, but elsewhere 910 celsius perfectly mild for the time of year into sunday morning. a lot more cloud and more of a breeze as well. so generally frost free away from some sheltered parts of the far southeast , some sheltered parts of the far southeast, and we keep largely cloudy skies into the afternoon. although some glimmers of brightness lead some brightness will lead to some remarkably mild air across wales and northern england. increasingly wet for scotland and northern ireland, similar conditions on monday. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

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