that the world needs to see. >> we want climate justice now . >> we want climate justice now. >> we want climate justice now. >> a just stop oil protester banged up for this bridge stunt is set to be deported. plus fema . nhs consultants , the . nhs consultants, the wealthiest medical professionals in the country , have voted in the country, have voted against a £20,000 pay rise. plus, it's all kicked off over this. >> it's one of the best places to live in the world, and that's what we should be talking about. the fact that we're. >> is britain the best country in the world? and as the king goes under the knife is there trouble in paradise for harry and meghan? what's going on in this clip here? okay, the premiere of the new bob marley film will be telling you everything you need to know very shortly. on my panel tonight, it's the star team of the editor at large at the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths, former bbc political john sergeant political chief john sergeant and jarjue . and commentator joanna jarjue.

get ready britain, here we go . get ready britain, here we go. wealthy nhs consultant whinge about their pay. that's next. but first it's your headlines. patrick thank you very much. >> and good evening from the gb newsroom. the headlines just after our top story today . after 9:00. our top story today. the conservative chairman the conservative party chairman has that there could has suggested that there could be more tax cutting announcements to come a announcements to come before a general election in the autumn. it follows this month's reduction in national insurance contributions. richard holden told gb news earlier today that the 2% cut was just the beginning of a possible series of tax cuts. >> we're coming out of that very tough period and we're able to outline our plans for the future. i think the actual tax cut, you mentioned the national insurance cut for working people

is the start of that. we'll see more of that in march and more of it later in the year as well. but we have that new direction of travel, which is clear. >> well, news, we've >> well, in other news, we've heard tonight that a british oil tanker is currently on fire. that's after it's been hit by a missile yemen missile off the coast of yemen as threats from rebels as threats from houthi rebels continue. understand that continue. we understand that fire fighting equipment on board is currently being used to control that blaze. maritime security officials say the crew on the ship are, though safe. it follows reports this morning of another missile strike and explosions near a separate oil tanker in the red sea. prime minister rishi sunak has warned this week of more strikes against houthi rebels if there, as he calls it, illegal and unacceptable attacks on commercial ships don't come to an end . back here in the uk, the an end. back here in the uk, the attorney general will consider a review of faldo calocane sentence after receiving a complaint that it could be too lenient. the nottingham killer was given a hospital order yesterday and will likely spend

the rest of his life in a high security clinic. he was found to be suffering from a severe mental illness when he killed three people with a knife before attempting to kill three others. a serial robber who killed a man who'd withdrawn money from a cashpoint is facing a life sentence after admitting that murder . carl sentence after admitting that murder. carl elliott will be sentenced next month after pleading guilty at wolverhampton crown court today, west midlands police say the 26 year old also committed a number of other robberies, rape and assault. in a statement , detectives said he a statement, detectives said he is an extremely violent bully who carried out cowardly crimes . who carried out cowardly crimes. meanwhile, baroness michelle mone and her husband have had their assets frozen following an application by the crown prosecution service . the prosecution service. the financial times is reporting that that amount is £75 million in assets. comes as the couple are investigated for their involvement in supplying ppe dunng involvement in supplying ppe during the pandemic. michelle mone has previously admitted she did lie when denying connections

to medpro, which made profits of £60 million. jurgen klopp has promised he will never manage another english club after announcing he is stepping down as liverpool's manager at the end of this season. liverpool was transformed under his leadership , winning six trophies leadership, winning six trophies including the premier league in 2020 and the champions league the year before. speaking to the media this afternoon, he said there'll be plenty of time for there'll be plenty of time for the transition with all the responsibility you have in this job and these kind of things, you have to be absolute of you have to be absolute top of your game. you have to be absolute top of youthat'sgame. you have to be absolute top of youthat's howe. you have to be absolute top of youthat's how it is. and i am, >> that's how it is. and i am, um, but i'm doing this for 24 years now. i realised, um, that this is that my, my, my resources are not endless new figures have revealed there is a clear geographical divide in life expectancy across england, the south has the highest life expectancy, with the north lagging behind. >> the for office national statistics data shows a gap of over a decade for men and more than seven years for women . than seven years for women. hampshire tops list for men

hampshire tops the list for men at years, while blackpool at 83.7 years, while blackpool has the lowest at 73.4 years. campaigners are calling on the government for more targeted intervention to bridge that gap . intervention to bridge that gap. and finally, king charles is said to be doing well after undergoing treatment for an enlarged prostate . the monarch enlarged prostate. the monarch arrived at a hospital in london this morning where the princess of wales is also recovering after her abdominal surgery . he, after her abdominal surgery. he, the king that is, has been praised by campaigners and members of the public for highlighting the issue and encouraging other men to get checked . that's the latest from checked. that's the latest from the gb newsroom for now. for more , we're on tv, online, dab+ more, we're on tv, online, dab+ radio and on the tune in app . radio and on the tune in app. this is gb news. consultants have voted to reject a pay offer that would have lined their bulging pockets, will have even more taxpayers cash. >> i have sympathy for underpaid care home staff. i have sympathy for and paramedics. for nurses and paramedics. i have less sympathy forjunior

have less sympathy for junior doctors, have absolutely have less sympathy for junior do

it ? well, they don't like to it? well, they don't like to talk about as well in these pay deals. is that about half of consultants private consultants do lucrative private work whistleblower said work? one nhs whistleblower said consultants at his children's burns unit spent 45% of their time on the golf course, while children suffered because of staff shortages . last time staff shortages. last time consultants walked out , they consultants walked out, they walked out hand in hand with junior doctors and nearly a quarter of a million of appointments were cancelled. the average consultant salary in england is about £6,000, higher than the average in new zealand . than the average in new zealand. more than £25,000 higher than they're paid in spain . and they're paid in spain. and £38,855 higher than the average in france . and they get that in france. and they get that massive pension we've got millions of people on an nhs waiting list, and we've got people who can afford to turn down a 20 grand pay rise, moaning about how skint they are . you shouldn't have to spend a penny more. you should not have to spend a penny more funding. these people , and i think that these people, and i think that they should held criminally they should be held criminally responsible they strike again

responsible if they strike again and people die. let's get the thoughts have got thoughts now. my panel have got tv legend john sergeant. tv news legend john sergeant. we've got the editor at large at the mail on sunday, charlotte griffith, and commentator griffith, and social commentator joanna jarjue top panel tonight. look, john, i'll start with you. do you think that they should be voting against these pay deals? do you think that they should be votino.against these pay deals? do you think that they should be votino. i|ainst these pay deals? do you think that they should be votino. i think these pay deals? do you think that they should be votino. i think the .e pay deals? do you think that they should be votino. i think the government’ >> no. i think the government should has stood should stand firm. it has stood firm . and what we've seen with firm. and what we've seen with the the latest inflation the with the latest inflation figures is it's not just going to come down automatically. you've make sure you you've got to make sure you don't pay people too much . don't pay people too much. otherwise you the old otherwise you get the old fashioned terms wage price spiral . you can get inflation spiral. you can get inflation coming back. so it's very important for the government to realise that there's not much in it. obviously it depends on what the junior doctors do , whether the junior doctors do, whether they ballot to go back on strike or to have the possibility of going back on strike. but otherwise they should negotiate gently with the consultants . gently with the consultants. don't offer them too much money, just offer them a bit of manoeuvre and bit of that, because otherwise they'll be

reluctant to go back on strike when only got 51% when they've only got 51% approval and as you said, as you pointed out , approval and as you said, as you pointed out, it's a very relatively low turnout, 60 odd percent. yeah, exactly. don't do it. fine. fight on control. >> i was gonna say only 23,000 people took part. >> and i think they know, don't they? what they're doing is they're voting not to end the strike for another six months, but they know that they're on very thin here. if very shaky, thin ice here. if they ahead with another full they go ahead with another full strike they've only just strike and they've only just cancelled all the appointments in they've been in january, they've just been rearranged. there was another rearranged. if there was another strike last strike now, admittedly the last one juniors is one was juniors and this is consultants. know, they consultants. but you know, they would cancel loads of would have to cancel loads of appointments. there be appointments. so there would be an absolute yeah. an absolute outrage. yeah. >> i mean, any sympathy seriously, for people can seriously, for people who can be earning anything between 100 grand of £1 million grand or a quarter of £1 million a year with the private work saying skin really, saying that their skin really, i mean, difficult the mean, it's difficult to use the word sympathy because obviously if that if somebody is making that amount money. amount of money. >> guess i could >> but i guess i could empathise. i think, you empathise. and i think, you know, that the vote know, the fact that the vote came in at 51% means that we're close at least because the past

yean close at least because the past year, all of 2023 just seemed like levels were like doctors at all levels were just you know, left, just striking, you know, left, right i think right and centre. but i think that, you know, a country we that, as you know, a country we need to remember what we were thinking. when was thinking. you know, when it was the pandemic, when we were all banging pots, at banging on pots, you know, at our front and saying, oh, our front doors and saying, oh, no, well, but, know, we no, well, no. but, you know, we appreciated then and then. appreciated them. then and then. now got a short now we've got a really short memory. and i think you memory. and i think that, you know, senior know, these are the most senior consultants within, um, a hospital, most senior hospital, the most senior decision if you look decision makers. so if you look at, you know, other sectors, i think these people, you think with these people, you know, go and work in know, they could go and work in banking, for example. and there are countries that pay are other countries that do pay more, of them are more, and a lot of them are flocking australia. we've got flocking to australia. we've got a and a really bad recruitment and retention the nhs, retention crisis within the nhs, and there are not and realistically there are not that many lines of work. >> think where if you start >> i think where if you start out at the age of 18, by the time you're 33, you can almost guarantee you'll be on 100 grand a year. plus, i don't think there's no the suspicion must be they think that they can get away with a bit of strike action, and then the government will cave in and they think a

bit more strike action. >> the government will cave in, but they should realise we're all going through an extremely difficult everybody difficult period. everybody is supposed the supposed to carry across the whole, across the whole country supposed to carry across the who to across the whole country supposed to carry across the who to give ;s the whole country supposed to carry across the who to give up he whole country supposed to carry across the who to give up the vhole country supposed to carry across the who to give up the excitementy and to give up the excitement and to give up the excitement and as you say, with people banging thinking, banging cans and thinking, you know, all this stuff about clapping them , would people do clapping them, would people do that again? they would not. no. i mean, feeling of a lot of i mean, a feeling of a lot of wrong to say that they become consultants. >> at 33, though , i think one of >> at 33, though, i think one of the things they are striking aboutis the things they are striking about is the progression and how difficult to progress, and difficult it is to progress, and the progression, the clear line of progression, um, their experience um, relating to their experience . my best is trying to . my best friend is trying to become consultant. she's become a consultant. she's 40, she's become she's been trying to become a consultant for many years. she's a woman, she's three a woman, so she's had three children, okay? and it actually is difficult for to is quite difficult for her to get by the way, she's get there. by the way, she's never had on strike, but never had gone on strike, but yeah, isn't that easy. yeah, but it isn't that easy. you just automatically you don't just automatically become consultant. it's become a consultant. at 33. it's quite difficult get there . quite difficult to get there. >> okay. yeah, i do understand that. >> okay. yeah, i do understand that . and know, i'm not that. and you know, i'm not saying it's an easy thing, saying that it's an easy thing, but what would but i just wonder what would your be if i said right, if your view be if i said right, if

your view be if i said right, if you on strike again and you go on strike again and people die, in mind that people die, bear in mind that we are junior doctor strikes are the junior doctor strikes and, uh, the nhs trust are now saying they're going to saying that they're going to pubush saying that they're going to publish deaths publish data of avoidable deaths and near misses that took place dunng and near misses that took place during those strikes. so we should at some point be able to get figures and go right. get some figures and go right. these died you these people died because you were strike. so if the were on strike. so if the consultants go on strike and people face people die, should they face prosecution? think ? prosecution? do you think? >> i don't think that they should face prosecution? i think >> i don't think that they shouthat'sa prosecution? i think >> i don't think that they shouthat's completelyn? i think that that's completely too harsh. you were to harsh. i think if you were to ask a lot of consultants, they would be saying that they're doing also for the long doing this also for the long terme, like said, we terme, because like i said, we do a major recruitment and do have a major recruitment and retention talk retention issue. and we talk about, know, the pay and about, you know, the pay and that a rise that that it's a pay rise that they're looking for. but, you know, it's know, they're saying that it's a pay know, they're saying that it's a pay restoration because the pay restoration because of the amount that they've amount of money that they've lost the last 15 and lost over the last 15 years. and that is, you know, significant. >> i just think, john, this is this is starting to look incredibly politically motivated. incredibly politically mowell,1. incredibly politically mowell, as i say, they think >> well, as i say, they think that they've got the government in mean, in a stranglehold. and i mean, what depressing when you what i find depressing when you think going years and years think going back years and years and there are so many

and years is there are so many young to be young people who want to be doctors and they were prevented from because from being doctors because the government kept government deliberately kept back people in back the number of people in medical schools. so you had to be very bright kid with, you know, three a's and stuff before you could do it. um and that was a deliberate government policy. and they want to know we will we will recruit more and we will do that. will recruit more and we will do that . but they will recruit more and we will do that. but they didn't. will recruit more and we will do that . but they didn't. they were that. but they didn't. they were constantly importing people from overseas in countries that desperately needed those doctors. so our whole behaviour as a country of saying, i know what we'll do, let's cut back our recruitment of doctors from from the population here. we'll bnngin from the population here. we'll bring in people from abroad. the whole thing really has been completely mismanaged because it takes time. of course it does . takes time. of course it does. >> and it's part of the kind of giant human and ponzi scheme that we're being forced to live in now. and i can't help but wonder it's about to go pop at some point soon. charlotte, should the government in some point soon. charlotte, shormoree government in some point soon. charlotte,

shormore on overnment in some point soon. charlotte, shormore on this? ment in some point soon. charlotte, shormore on this? d01t in some point soon. charlotte, shormore on this? do you in some point soon. charlotte, shormore on this? do you think any more on this? do you think they should just hold firm and just say, right, look, this is the offer. roughly about 6% and another in another kind of 4% in incentives. is enough? now incentives. is that enough? now do you think? >> and i think >> i think so, and i think they'll probably ride it out. there's six. so this vote for there's six. so this vote is for six months. think even six more months. i think even they push that hard in they won't push that hard in this next six months. so if they can just ride it out, they'll probably get through and probably get through it. and then hopefully this 2 or 3 years, feels it's been then hopefully this 2 or 3 years, onfeels it's been then hopefully this 2 or 3 years, on will it's been then hopefully this 2 or 3 years, on will comet's been then hopefully this 2 or 3 years, on will come to been then hopefully this 2 or 3 years, on will come to anzn then hopefully this 2 or 3 years, on will come to an end. going on will come to an end. >> really do hope so. >> yeah, i really do hope so. and there is going to be a problem. you know, idea problem. you know, the idea that this goes with the this all goes away with the labour government. i mean, labour government. i mean, labour saying they're labour government. i mean, labou to saying they're labour government. i mean, labou to sajto g they're labour government. i mean, labou to sajto any ay're labour government. i mean, labou to sajto any of re labour government. i mean, labou to sajto any of these going to give in to any of these demands and they're not even allowed picket lines allowed on the old picket lines anymore, are so idea anymore, are they? so the idea that government anymore, are they? so the idea that sort government anymore, are they? so the idea that sort all government anymore, are they? so the idea that sort all of government anymore, are they? so the idea that sort all of goout,�*nent anymore, are they? so the idea that sort all of goout, it'st would sort all of this out, it's just to be it doesn't help just going to be it doesn't help labour because it raises a question strikes. question about strikes. >> are associated >> and strikes are associated often therefore often with unions and therefore they're, whole they're, you know, the whole thing links up in a way which doesn't government doesn't help the government doesn't help, doesn't help the laboun labour. i mean, it's, uh, it's all very difficult all together very difficult to handle for either of them. absolutely. >> get your views >> well, look, get your views coming in gb views or gbnews.com still out still to come, a row breaks out after commentator after social commentator konstantin kissin defends

britain great place konstantin kissin defends br live great place konstantin kissin defends brlive on great place konstantin kissin defends brlive on questionjreat place konstantin kissin defends brlive on question time place konstantin kissin defends brlive on question time last; to live on question time last night, britannia cruel night, rule britannia or cruel britannia? also still to come from king charles, the princess of duchess of of wales and now the duchess of york. of our monarchy york. the health of our monarchy has been dominating the headunes has been dominating the headlines be headlines this week, so we'll be talking all of that. but talking about all of that. but next in the a just stop next in the clash, a just stop oil goes head to head oil spokesman goes head to head with a net zero sceptic on the upcoming deportation a upcoming deportation of a climate . should he be climate activist. should he be deported this is patrick christys tonight

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news. >> this is patrick christys tonight . >> this is patrick christys tonight. it's only on gb news. i've got a fantastic head to head coming your way right now . head coming your way right now. so this week, a group of high profile actors and musicians, including obviously the likes of emma thompson , we've got olivia emma thompson, we've got olivia colman, bob geldof , geldof's colman, bob geldof, geldof's piped up, have written a letter to home secretary james cleverly condemning the deportation of a chap called marcus dekker, now dekker is currently serving a prison sentence of two years, seven months after climbing the queen elizabeth bridge over the dartford crossing and unveiling the just stop oil banner. since he's been jailed, the home office has served him because he's german with a deportation notice. well more than 150,000 people have signed a petition against the home office's decision. the question i'm asking is pretty straightforward. really should we deport him? me now we deport him? joining me now for this head to head is just

stop oil spokesman and retired doctor jones and the doctor ben jones and the co—founder of the climate debate uk, it's ben pile , both of you. uk, it's ben pile, both of you. thank you very much. to thank you very much. great to have the show. ben. i'll have you on the show. ben. i'll start you . should we deport dekker? >> e“ a e a decision w— >> well, that's a decision for the home office to make. obviously in the secretary of state and on. um and but what obviously in the secretary of sthink nd on. um and but what obviously in the secretary of sthink really on. um and but what obviously in the secretary of sthink really thist and but what obviously in the secretary of sthink really this speaks but what obviously in the secretary of sthink really this speaks t01t what obviously in the secretary of sthink really this speaks to isvhat i think really this speaks to is the fact that very often protesters of this kind get themselves into these kinds of scrapes, and then they act all surprised when the law is appued surprised when the law is applied to them. and they believe that they can recycle a utany believe that they can recycle a litany of qatar trophic climate events that they believe in is ahead of us in to order try and escape conviction for those crimes, if any , if any of us crimes, if any, if any of us were going to climb a bridge and disrupt traffic for days on ends, causing chaos for hundreds of thousands of people, we would expect exactly that kind of treatment. we would expect that of someone visiting this country and they would be deported . and and they would be deported. and so i think what we really need

to and the problem to do, and i think the problem at root is the fact that our society has failed to confront environmentalism of this kind, its radical ideology , be quite its radical ideology, be quite weird. ideology very different to what most people , how most to what most people, how most people see the world and, um, i'll come back to you. >> i'll come i'll come back to you on this because want to you on this because i want to get, doctor bingen. get, um, doctor, doctor bingen. um guy is a criminal. um look, this guy is a criminal. he's serving a sentence. and once he's out of prison, he should be deported to germany. now >> um, no . >> um, no. »- >> um, no. >> no, of course not. i'm just so relieved that all of these, um , remarkable people have um, remarkable people have actually finally , um, stuck actually finally, um, stuck their head above the parapet and said some things really wrong here. look, it is absolutely wrong. just plain wrong. >> okay? look, why this guy is a criminal. this guy is a criminal. this guy is a criminal. he's committed a criminal. he's committed a criminal offence. he doesn't have a right to live in britain. i mean, why should he enjoy this

country have kind of country and have the kind of freedoms that we normally have here citizens here for law abiding citizens and expect be able to go and expect to just be able to go back out into society so he can climb bridge again. climb a bridge again. >> look, if we were in normal times , then we should all obey times, then we should all obey all the rules. but the fact is that we're in. absolutely. except normal times, the and this man is a really lovely person . he's already served 14 person. he's already served 14 months in prison, and we've had only a few days ago, somebody from the united nations, their special rapporteur , saying that special rapporteur, saying that there was something really wrong about the british, um , uh, about the british, um, uh, severity of hammering climate criminals . severity of hammering climate criminals. but severity of hammering climate criminals . but there's something criminals. but there's something really important about protest. protest is a part of a healthy democracy . and this kind of democracy. and this kind of severity . severity. >> he did, with respect . he >> he did, with respect. he committed quite a serious crime right. he climbed a bridge, he stopped traffic . people might stopped traffic. people might have in back have stopped in the back of

ambulances result this ambulances as a result of this or get cancer appointment. or not get a cancer appointment. it's of it's potentially millions of pounds lost to our economy. look, i'll come you, look, i'll come back to you, but. but, can you respond but. but, ben, can you respond to that this guy, you to that? that this guy, you know, a know, look, because he's a climate got climate protester and he's got very cause we're far very important cause we're far too here in britain. and too harsh here in britain. and this is this is morally unconscionable be unconscionable that we should be deporting to deporting him back over to germany . germany. >> well, i don't see how how much softer it can really be. i mean, most of the protesters of these kind do to get off and they don't they don't go to prison or they get very light sentences or they you know, community orders and things of that um, and so there's, that kind. um, and so there's, there's no society apparently has no ability to sanction these, these individuals or these, these individuals or these movements. and so they just carry on and carry on, and they make it very clear that they make it very clear that they don't believe that the rules them. whatever, rules apply to them. whatever, whatever they think they entitles them to do it. and, and they it clear they're going they make it clear they're going to again, and they're they make it clear they're going to toagain, and they're they make it clear they're going to to doin, and they're they make it clear they're going to to do it and they're they make it clear they're going to to do it again hey're they make it clear they're going to to do it again until; they make it clear they're going to to do it again until they going to do it again until they get their way, which is a very

going to do it again until they get the interpretation s a very going to do it again until they get the interpretation ofi very going to do it again until they get the interpretation of nety radical interpretation of net zero, by 2025, zero, i believe, by by 2025, according to extinction rebellion or , or things of that rebellion or, or things of that nature. and of course, even if we gave to in their demands, their immediate demands , then their immediate demands, then another clone of xr or jso is just going to set itself up and create new, new radical doctor ben can i can i ask, can i ask you, doctor , have you committed crimes? >> have you been have you committed crimes as a result of the climate agenda? >> yes. i have and have you been have sent to prison? have you been sent to prison? i've been to prison, but i i've never been to prison, but i have many crimes. >> have you committed? how many crimes committed ? crimes have you committed? >> arrested multiple >> i have been arrested multiple times. because times. and i've done it because i felt that that was the only honourable thing to do. >> fine. but you can't with >> fine. but you can't say with respect. with respect. with respect, with respect. with respect, with respect. no. respect. you can't say no. i'm going let respond. i'm going to let you respond. i'm going to let you respond. i'm going after going to let you respond after this respect. you this question with respect. you can't sit there and simultaneously say that the un can't sit there and si|sayingeously say that the un can't sit there and si|sayingeouslwe're that the un can't sit there and si|sayingeouslwe're ant the un can't sit there and si|sayingeouslwe're an absolute is saying that we're an absolute shocker. you yourself have committed multiple crimes, been arrested crimes you've arrested multiple crimes you've never faced a day behind bars whatsoever. know able

whatsoever. you know you're able and go and talk to and out free to go and talk to me and honest, sounds me to and be honest, it sounds like to do it like you're going to do it again, i mean, we're like you're going to do it agathat i mean, we're like you're going to do it agathat bad. i mean, we're like you're going to do it agathat bad. are mean, we're like you're going to do it agathat bad. are we?|n, we're like you're going to do it agathat bad. are we? really'e not that bad. are we? really >> the real criminals? um patrick, are the people that that ben supports. we've got two different narratives here. one narrative is from from every single reputable, independent, scientific, um, agency which says that we're facing the worst climate crisis in a very practical sense. >> doctor , to be fair, you are >> doctor, to be fair, you are the criminal, right? and you've not you've not actually faced any kind of impacts on your life. , i mean, seriously, life. i mean, i mean, seriously, we not that bad, are we? in we are not that bad, are we? in loads other countries, loads of other countries, you'd be . be locked up. >> we this the united nations envoy for human rights. there's basically said that the united nations, the united kingdom is bad . he should really be here. bad. he should really be here. we are wokester and banana repubucin we are wokester and banana republic in south america. but he's coming here and he's coming here because people like ben here, who is paid essentially by the fossil fuel industry and

those that support them, is telling a narrative , you're telling a narrative, you're a liar, which is completely wrong . okay. >> all right. go on. i let him let him respond. let him respond to that, because that's a accusation , isn't it, ben? come accusation, isn't it, ben? come on. yeah >> unfortunately, bing doesn't know. doesn't speak for the organisations he claims the authority of. and he doesn't know anything about where i get my money. um, so , i mean, it's my money. um, so, i mean, it's just it's just conspiracy theory and slander and ben , you are a and slander and ben, you are a representative of an organisation which is supported , organisation which is supported, uh, by, by funds from the koch brothers. >> so you are a defender? >> so you are a defender? >> i think you i think you either hallucinating or you're lying . you don't know what lying. you don't know what you're talking about. it. >> so just. right, let's just because i want to return to the topic in hand, can i just ask a very straightforward question then? >> ben, anything that doctor >> ben, is anything that doctor bing said there about? you bing said there true about? you know, for the sake of clarity, right, your funding and right, about your funding and about true, or

about that, is that true, yes or no? >> i'm funded by people >> no, no, i'm funded by people subscribing substack subscribing to my, uh, substack and donations to my and making small donations to my website. right. >> well, we will have to we will have to leave that particular bit of this debate there because i and neither i have not got time and neither do and listeners to do my viewers and listeners to go companies go through companies house. >> have >> right. so we're going to have to chin, i'm to take that on the chin, i'm afraid. um. bing, look, what would when comes this would what when it comes to this particular we would what when it comes to this parhim ar we would what when it comes to this parhim out we would what when it comes to this parhim out of we would what when it comes to this parhim out of prison we would what when it comes to this parhim out of prison right we would what when it comes to this parhim out of prison right, we let him out of prison right, he's going to it again. why he's going to do it again. why is this not symptomatic of the selfish entitlement of a lot of the people in the climate agenda , they think they , right? that they think they can living heck out of can smash the living heck out of cities, people's to cities, bring people's lives to a people a standstill, stop people getting to appointments, and then that end up then it's wrong that they end up in can't possibly in prison. oh, we can't possibly deport guy. deport this particular guy. it's absolutely horrendous. i mean, why are you guys the kind of protected that's protected species that's complete ? complete rubbish? >> it's nonsense. everybody who does any a protest gets who gets arrested , pays the price. i paid arrested, pays the price. i paid vast amounts of money. i've done community service. i've done lots of things. and the reason i've done it is because it's the only way to raise the issue.

because you guys in the media are constantly telling a different story. you're telling the fossil fuel industry story and you're not telling your story on the media. >> right? just stop oil are always on the media. you are always on the media. you are always on the media. you are always on my show. you are always on my show. you are always across this channel. you are always across other channels. there is no need for you to try to ruin people's lives. there is no need . lives. there is no need. >> how do we get onto your channel? do we get onto your channel? do we get onto your channel by being nice or by writing to a politician or talking to somebody to the talking to somebody down to the pub ? we get onto programs pub? we get onto your programs because of people like marcus, who actually put their lives on the line, because our whole world is actually being threatened. man and we have got to do something about it. and people like, like glenn are selling a story, which is a false can. >> can i just ask you, can i, by sticking their head out of the window, they can see they can smell the smoke.

>> they can see the fires we're facing record after record after record. the world is in deep, deep trouble. and we're not doing anything about it. we should have sorted it out years ago and we haven't done it. we've got to start. >> ben, can you can you can can you >> ben, can you can you can can you come >> ben, can you can you can can you come back to that? i mean, you come back to that? i mean, you know, look, if we just take this at face value, crime committed zero remorse and you've got these celebrities , you've got these celebrities, you've got these celebrities, you know, the likes of bob geldof all of lot geldof and all of that lot piping geldof and all of that lot piping it well, piping up about it as well, saying this particular person shouldn't be deported. i mean, i'm sure want to i'm not really sure they want to deport i mean, there was deport anyone. i mean, there was that that that quite famous flight that included murderers and rapists that people that they didn't want people deported so deported on either, is there? so although necessarily although not necessarily those actors specifically, i'm at pains but, know, actors specifically, i'm at pthink but, know, actors specifically, i'm at pthink it's but, know, actors specifically, i'm at pthink it's what3ut, know, actors specifically, i'm at pthink it's what do, know, actors specifically, i'm at pthink it's what do you know, actors specifically, i'm at pthink it's what do you think/, i think it's what do you think of all this, come of all this, ben? come on. >> is a cause >> well, there is a cause celebre. i mean, they're these these celebrities think very much of themselves. and much as the way jso activists environmental activists think of themselves, and they don't mind imposing themselves on people and telling the rest of the world how it should behave. but they're not coming out in defence of who are going

defence of people who are going to the to have to suffer from the net zero they're coming zero agenda. they're not coming out people who out in defence of the people who have their jobs at the have lost their jobs at the steelworks because of policies like they're not like net net zero. they're not going to they're not coming out in people who who in defence of people who are who are losing their mobility because green regulations . because of green regulations. and, and they're not coming out in protesting about the rising energy, energy bills that they're, they're facing or the closing closures of their businesses or their industries. so there's a lot of hypocrisy and cant about these celebs. um, you know, making a big deal and flattering themselves and, and, and the likes of just oil to essentially try and normalise this, to try and make , you know, this, to try and make, you know, to try and lend their household names to actually quite a weird and radical, uh, political idea . and radical, uh, political idea. >> i can, i can i ask you being seriously what what have you actually been charged with in the past , then what have you you the past, then what have you you mentioned that you'd you'd faced a penalty, and punishment a penalty, and a punishment could you just rattle what could you just rattle off what it you've actually been

it is that you've actually been found or what's your found guilty of, or what's your criminal record? i've been arrested loads of times, but i've only ever been found guilty for blocking a road. >> wilful obstruction of the highway, and causing highway, and for causing a pubuc highway, and for causing a public which also public nuisance which was also blocking . and look, ben blocking a road. and look, ben is talking there about imposing the people who are imposing are the people who are imposing are the fossil fuel industry and people who are stopping us from limiting our global emissions. every single agency throughout the world, including the ipcc , the world, including the ipcc, says that we have to halve our emissions. we have got to just people don't want that. >> as soon as possible. >> as soon as possible. >> it's the only way forwards is to stop emissions, to halve them i >> -- >> if -- >>if| >> if i came, lam >> if i came, if i came round to your house, right, if i came round to your house and, and broke into it and then i did it again and i did it again and i did it again. you'd want me in prison, wouldn't you? >> just because somebody breaks the law is not necessary . only,

the law is not necessary. only, um, bad . there are lots of um, bad. there are lots of people who are breaking the law. our own government is breaking the law. >> right. okay >> right. okay >> there are some. there are some people who are , um, who are some people who are, um, who are demonstrating . demonstrating. >> i'm not breaking into anybody's house. i'm sitting down in a road or this particular person's causing a lot of issues for people, etc. it just does seem like, you know, you kind of want to be a bit of a protected species. >> look, obviously isn't >> look, it obviously isn't going you guys, which >> look, it obviously isn't goiyou you guys, which >> look, it obviously isn't goiyou know, you guys, which >> look, it obviously isn't goiyou know, fair guys, which >> look, it obviously isn't goiyou know, fair enough.hich >> look, it obviously isn't goiyou know, fair enough. inh is, you know, fair enough. in a way. doubt will talk way. and no doubt we will talk again, chaps . thank very way. and no doubt we will talk again, it|aps . thank very way. and no doubt we will talk again, it was. thank very way. and no doubt we will talk again, it was athank very way. and no doubt we will talk again, it was a cracking very way. and no doubt we will talk again, it was a cracking head to much. it was a cracking head to head just a paul head that was just a paul spokesman doctor, spokesman and retired doctor, ben of the ben jones, co—founder of the climate ben pile. climate debate uk ben pile. right. coming row right. okay so coming up a row breaks out after social commentator kissin commentator konstantin kissin defends says it's a defends britain. he says it's a great place to live question great place to live on question time. well, of course it is. especially apparently if you're a activist doesn't a climate activist who doesn't want but rule want to go to jail. but rule britannia britannia. britannia or rule britannia. there was a massive backlash to that types. why that from the usual types. why don't they just go and live somewhere a global somewhere else? plus a global row over the death row breaks out over the death penalty alabama penalty as the state of alabama uses nitrogen gas to kill an

inmate right? is uses nitrogen gas to kill an inmate right ? is it now high inmate right? is it now high time the developed world ended the inhumane practice ? the inhumane practice? apparently it took him a heck of a long time to die. coming up, how's sunak victim how's rishi sunak fallen victim to karmic forces ? is this to karmic forces? is this so—called plot to remove him from power? sweet retribution for what he did to boris johnson.i for what he did to boris johnson. i will give you the latest on this plot to remove the prime minister. up next, though, from king charles. the princess of wales and now the duchess york the health of duchess of york. the health of our monarchy has been dominating the will the headlines. my panel will have all the latest royal news in a tick patrick

isabel monday to thursdays from 6:00 till 930. >> this is patrick christys night only on gb news. coming up is rishi sunak getting his just deserts for ousting boris johnson.i deserts for ousting boris johnson. i will give you the very latest on the plot to oust the pm, but right now it's time for our royal dispatch . now the for our royal dispatch. now the health and the well—being of our royal family has been dominating the headlines over the past couple of weeks. last wednesday, kensington palace announced that the has the princess of wales has undergone abdominal surgery and will be in hospital for around two weeks. also shared that two weeks. they also shared that they not expect her they did not expect her to return to full time royal duties until easter. then, today until easter. well then, today king charles was admitted to the london clinic, the same hospital as daughter in law, as his daughter in law, for his planned prostate procedure. his wife, queen camilla, told those

in the hospital that his majesty is doing well following the operation, which is lovely to hean operation, which is lovely to hear, it? then earlier hear, isn't it? and then earlier this sarah this week, of course, sarah ferguson, york, ferguson, the duchess of york, shared that she's been diagnosed with her with skin cancer following her breast diagnosis breast cancer diagnosis and treatment last year. well, king charles and fergie have been praised for their openness surrounding their health conditions, is this of conditions, but is this kind of transparency the royals transparency from the royals exclusively positive? should some privacy still be some form of privacy still be valued? well of course i'm going to get the views of my to get the views now of my panel to get the views now of my panel. news legend john panel. tv news legend john sergeant is editor at large at the on sunday. charlotte the mail on sunday. charlotte griffiths social commentator griffiths and social commentator joanna jarjue and john, i hope you don't mind me mentioning this. there's a certain relevance. believe , between relevance. i believe, between yourself procedure yourself and the procedure that the king has just had. >> it yes. now, i had the >> it is. yes. now, i had the same procedure about a year ago, so of. i don't know, so i've sort of. i don't know, me and king become just that bit closer together . but i mean, closer together. but i mean, it's a very common operation and, uh, it's something which people ought to know about because otherwise they live with, you know, uncut . notable

with, you know, uncut. notable symptoms and you can get it done.i symptoms and you can get it done. i mean , the problem is done. i mean, the problem is there's a waiting list and all there's a waiting list and all the rest of it. um, and, and i can only report that it's completely sort of straight forward. it's not painful . do forward. it's not painful. do you mind me asking? >> and afterwards or what it is? how old is it? i know about what it is. about what? oh, yeah. >> no, it's the it's because your is enlarged . this your prostate is enlarged. this is just bits a bit of you. and the only problem is, is that once they start cutting bits out of you , you never quite know of you, you never quite know whether they won't take a bit of it. go to a biopsy and say, hold on a moment. this is cancerous. so although the actual procedure is quite straightforward and frankly, when people start digging around inside you. yeah they can find something they didn't with me and i'm sure they won't with the king if they've gone through all that procedure. but it's an element there. there is an element fear and is an element of fear and there's element of what will there's an element of what will this will it go on to

this bring? will it go on to something else? so you know, it's serious. >> surely you've been you've been royal stories been breaking big royal stories since da. what do you since day da. so what do you make all of this going on at make of all of this going on at the moment? make of all of this going on at the mom�*ht? make of all of this going on at the mom�*i think i think your >> well, i think i think your first reaction, i remember last week out week when we first found out about prostate , you about his enlarged prostate, you kind little of kind of had that little bit of cringe. people cringe. and i think some people have, of have, because it's a lot of information to about the information to have about the monarch. used monarch. and we're not used to it queen was it because the queen was incredibly private. and of course, very course, kate's being very private. been amazing private. but it has been amazing because there's been this huge surge clicks nhs surge of clicks on the nhs website , and people are now website, and people are now finding symptoms . finding out about the symptoms. i the i was actually googling the symptoms today , something symptoms today, something i've never yeah, and never done before. yeah, and thinking, oh, i wonder if anyone i know it does get you i know you know it does get you thinking well, it thinking and it may. well, it definitely fact, raising definitely is. in fact, raising awareness. though it awareness. so even though it might be a little bit tmi for some people, could be some people, it could be ultimately beneficial if it means a few more people get diagnosed before anything bad happens . so yeah, happens to them. so yeah, i think probably a good thing. >> yeah. what was your view on it? i was quite surprised. i mean, i initially thought if i'm being honest, maybe he's trying to take the pressure off catherine here. and

catherine a little bit here. and you announced you know, because they announced it didn't they. it on the same day, didn't they. but we understand it on the same day, didn't they. bu he's we understand it on the same day, didn't they. bu he's recovering ne understand it on the same day, didn't they. bu he's recovering well. derstand it on the same day, didn't they. bu he's recovering well. so stand it, he's recovering well. so fingers seems fingers crossed. camilla seems to he's to say that he's doing he's doing do think we doing very well. do you think we should have known about this? doing very well. do you think we shou think'e known about this? doing very well. do you think we shou think soznown about this? doing very well. do you think we shou think so i'm/n about this? doing very well. do you think we shou think so i'm not)out this? doing very well. do you think we shou think so i'm not aut this? doing very well. do you think we shou think so i'm not a royalist >> i think so i'm not a royalist at mind the royal at all. i don't mind the royal family, but, you know, i'm not kind of a devout girl of kind of a devout fan. girl of them . um, but i think that this them. um, but i think that this is exactly the type of impacts that should have on the that they should have on the country. i think for country. you know, i think for some aren't some people who aren't royalists, they kind say, some people who aren't royaliwhat'sey kind say, some people who aren't royaliwhat's the nd say, some people who aren't royaliwhat's the point say, some people who aren't royaliwhat's the point iny, some people who aren't royaliwhat's the point in them? well, what's the point in them? well, major well, actually, they're major pubuc well, actually, they're major public in our country. public figures in our country. obviously and this is the type of influence that i want to see. and i think that i'd like to see more kind of charity work within whatever, care whatever, you know, health care and them to ride off and kind of for them to ride off this a little bit and to have more awareness comes to more awareness when it comes to the health, the general public's health, it's got a dutiful prostate i >> -- >> it has. lam >> it has. he's been put to work . but the royal family, it's also a sign, too, of , you know, also a sign, too, of, you know, this is the whole point about royal family and how it works. >> a very strange system. other countries don't adopt it like we do, but one of the advantages is you them in sickness and

do, but one of the advantages is yo health. them in sickness and do, but one of the advantages is yo health. youem in sickness and do, but one of the advantages is yo health. you see1 sickness and do, but one of the advantages is yo health. you see them 1ess and do, but one of the advantages is yo health. you see them going1d in health. you see them going through all the things that other families do and it's not the same as film stars or it's not the same as politicians. they are a family. people know about them and they should know that. of course, going to hospital, having procedures is very much part of family life . very much part of family life. >> john, how long did it take you to recover from this operation? know, i'm operation? and, you know, i'm just out how just trying to figure out how long be without a word. long we might be without a word. >> well, was extremely keen to >> well, i was extremely keen to go first night. well >> well, i was extremely keen to go quite first night. well >> well, i was extremely keen to go quite enough. ht. well >> well, i was extremely keen to go quite enough. right?.l that's quite enough. right? i want to back and get on want to go back home and get on with thing. >> then . >> then. >> then. >> they said, oh, no. look, >> and they said, oh, no. look, if they were, if you do that. no, they were, they worried was they were worried about was they, was they they, they thought it was they thought it was no reason why i shouldn't home. um, i felt shouldn't go home. um, i felt okay. was it's off okay. i was okay, it's all off we go. but they were worried okay. i was okay, it's all off we go iqut they were worried okay. i was okay, it's all off we go if anything/ere worried okay. i was okay, it's all off we go if anything went forried okay. i was okay, it's all off we go if anything went wrong . if about if anything went wrong. if i home right ? about if anything went wrong. if i home right? and i went back home right? and something went wrong , i would something went wrong, i would then have to go to a&e and the whole procedure would be quite difficult. so for the point of view of the staff and they explained this to me. look, john, would you just could explained this to me. look, johrjust uld you just could explained this to me. look,

johrjust uld yanother just could explained this to me. look, johrjust uld yanother nightcould explained this to me. look, johrjust uld yanother night andd you just stay another night and then we'll be sure that you're all right and you then all right and you can then go home. was very keen to go. home. but i was very keen to go. >> it's very interesting. from the of kate, the point of view of kate, because worried, because everyone's so worried, because everyone's so worried, because such a long because she's in for such a long time. it's actually a time. but if it's actually a precautionary the precautionary thing because the last royal want last thing the royal family want is home and then is for kate to go home and then ambulances be, you know, pictured on the streets as she goes to a&e. maybe it's goes to a&e. so maybe it's an abundance that abundance of caution. that famous i mean, is famous thing i mean, this is wishful but are wishful thinking, but people are worried about how kate worried about how long kate spending maybe spending in hospital. but maybe it's caution. it's an abundance of caution. wanting from from wanting to prevent her from from having and e dash, which having an a and e dash, which i'd thought do . i'd never thought about to do. >> actually think that, um, >> i actually think that, um, obviously it's been positive, you know, all the news coverage and the influence the king and the influence that the king has i do think that it has had. but i do think that it would been good have would have been to good have that from that kind of transparency from kate for people that kind of transparency from kate were for people that kind of transparency from katewere worried for people that kind of transparency from katewere worried sick, people that kind of transparency from katewere worried sick, you eople that kind of transparency from katewere worried sick, you know, who were worried sick, you know, who were worried sick, you know, who concerned about who were really concerned about her, also it just creates her, but also it just creates this kind of storm. and i almost think that when i've um , think that when i've seen, um, the news coverage this, the news coverage of this, i think that some of it's actually kind of backfired on the royal family. don't that family. and i don't think that it's the royal family's fault, necessarily. some of

necessarily. but i think some of the reporting, especially when it he's it comes to william and how he's supporting her, i don't think that it's of , supporting her, i don't think that it's of, um, supporting her, i don't think that it's of , um, stuck that it's kind of, um, stuck with public as what with the public as much as what certain thought it would . certain people thought it would. do you think? >> i mean, think think the >> i mean, i think i think the other problem that doctors >> i mean, i think i think the other knowem that doctors >> i mean, i think i think the other know everything. ioctors >> i mean, i think i think the other know everything. and rs >> i mean, i think i think the other know everything. and there >> i mean, i think i think the othe someone'erything. and there >> i mean, i think i think the othe someone whoring. and there >> i mean, i think i think the othe someone who 11g. and there >> i mean, i think i think the othe someone who i knew d there >> i mean, i think i think the othe someone who i knew veryere was someone who i knew very well who who the of who who told the story of a friend of his who had had a full medical check—up the next day he had a heart attack. oh, great. and so it's extremely difficult for or however for the doctors or however eminent they are. and they're saying, oh, it's kate is fine. does that mean she'll be perfect ? i'll tell you what, are you sure of that i well, i'm not sure. >> i would not fancy being, you know, a surgeon or someone like that who tasked looking that who is tasked with looking after my hands after the king. i think my hands would shaking too much. would be shaking too much. can i just though, charlotte, just ask you, though, charlotte, we're talk this we're going to talk about this a little there's little bit later on. there's been videos emerging little bit later on. there's beeum, videos emerging little bit later on. there's beeum, harry videos emerging little bit later on. there's beeum, harry and videos emerging little bit later on. there's beeum, harry and meghan,1erging of, um, harry and meghan, you know, old red know, out there on the old red carpets, doing bob marley carpets, doing the bob marley thing. got he's down thing. yeah, he's got he's down undergone procedure undergone some kind of procedure today. undergone some kind of procedure today . kate's in hospital . um, today. kate's in hospital. um, there's, you know, the duchess of york is ill as well. and how

do you think it looks when you've got prince harry there? you know, potentially a you know, potentially having a bit at bit of a row with meghan at a bob marley event? >> a bit odd, isn't >> i think it's a bit odd, isn't it? because he's done not one, but two public appearances . if but two public appearances. if i were him, i wouldn't have done either we either of those things, and we haven't of him haven't seen that much of him lately . and here he he's haven't seen that much of him lately two d here he he's haven't seen that much of him lately two appearances, he's haven't seen that much of him lately two appearances, one with made two appearances, one with meghan, . i think it's a meghan, actually. i think it's a bit off key today of all days especially. >> well, well, i've well i've tried to come back to that a little bit later on in the show though. so there we go. and coming rishi sunak coming up, has rishi sunak fallen forces? coming up, has rishi sunak fallen so—called forces? coming up, has rishi sunak fallen so—called plot forces? coming up, has rishi sunak fallen so—called plot t0)rces? coming up, has rishi sunak fallen so—called plot to remove is this so—called plot to remove him from powerjust retribution him from power just retribution for what he did to boris johnson ? is he now feeling what it likes to be knifed in the back? and a bit later on, a global row breaks the death breaks out over the death penalty state of penalty because the state of alabama used a very controversial to execute controversial method to execute an also, apparently took an inmate. also, apparently took him of a long time to die him a heck of a long time to die . is it now high time that the developed world ended this practice? or should actually practice? or should we actually bnng practice? or should we actually bring penalty bring back the death penalty in this though this country? next, though iran was broken out because social commentator konstantin kissin,

he's defended britain live on question time last night and the usual times have piped up and hit back. we're gonna have a debate on this is britain the best place to live? jenny barnett elliott, they barnett and sarah elliott, they lock horns in just a tick. patrick we're patrick christys tonight we're only

gb news and we've got. well, it was bbc question time last night, and comedian commentator constance kissin was heckled by an audience member after saying that britain is the best that britain is one of the best places to live . places in the world to live. yeah. asked how do yeah. oh no. when asked how do we create hope for young people ? we create hope for young people? the trigonometry co—host was met with shame you , shame on you. with shame on you, shame on you. they were shouting at him, look, here it is. make your own mind up. >> think up. >> absolutely >> i think sonny is absolutely right level, but right on a practical level, but i cultural level is i think at a cultural level is something more something perhaps even more important, to important, which is we've got to stop our country. stop talking down our country. i'm a first generation immigrant to and i get to this country, and i get annoyed talk annoyed hearing people talk endlessly about we're the endlessly about how we're the worst country in the world. we're most sexist country in

we're the most sexist country in the the racist the world. we're the most racist country. nonsense. this the world. we're the most racist cooney. nonsense. this the world. we're the most racist cooney. the nonsense. this the world. we're the most racist cooney. the best»nsense. this the world. we're the most racist cooney. the best places. this the world. we're the most racist coone y. the best places to his is one of the best places to live world. that's live in the world. and that's what should talking about. what we should be talking about. the . shameless. the fact that we're. shameless. well this is this is exactly . well this is this is exactly. this is exactly the problem that i'm talking about. >> absolutely unbelievable . with >> absolutely unbelievable. with me now to discuss this is author and broadcaster jenny barnett and broadcaster jenny barnett and special adviser for the uk. us special relationship unit at the legatum institute , sarah the legatum institute, sarah elliott, both of you. thank you very, very much. and jenny, if people don't think britain's a great place to live, why don't they just leave that ? they just leave that? >> that is not the question to ask. one question to ask is the one you've asked. i do think that that great britain is brilliant . looked after my brilliant. looked after my family when they came. i'm second generation. exactly the same background as constantine , same background as constantine, but i think we have gone backwards . one of his critics

backwards. one of his critics said since brexit we've turned into an intolerant, inward looking and backwards bleep hole because of all the remainers, isn't it? >> jenny? >> jenny? >> well , listen, i >> jenny? >> well, listen, i think that we are living in a two tier society . i think that if you're constantine , you went to constantine, you went to edinburgh university and you've got a background he's got and he has been welcomed in, but i think if you are somebody coming in on a boat and you don't fit the criteria and you've got a government that is anti humanitarian and breaking rules , humanitarian and breaking rules, then i think it is not terrific. >> so shame, shame , so shame, >> so shame, shame, so shame, shame on constantine kissin for when you say he don't meet the meet the criteria by the way you you don't meet the criteria of being a legal immigrant. right. but back to you, but look, i'll come back to you, jenny. back to you. jenny. i'll come back to you. look, what do you make of look, sarah, what do you make of that? that when i when i saw that, the kind of that, i just saw the kind of self—entitlement student politics society that politics nature of society that i we've become somewhat

i think we've become somewhat danng i think we've become somewhat daring to say. i think britain is and shame , shame . is great. and then shame, shame. >> exactly. i mean, we or else do they want to live? what do they hold up as the ideal country? i mean, this the uk is a fantastic country, full of rule of law, opportunity , rule of law, opportunity, education, work . um, if you're education, work. um, if you're an asylum seeker in a boat, you're getting £50 a week free housing and now you're getting a job like that . but i know a lot job like that. but i know a lot of people who would really like it to be able to get a worker visa from the united states. listen i'm a first generation immigrant. i came over here for love, and i decided to stay because it's a wonderful country full of opportunity and diversity. it's the london is the most diverse city in the entire world. everybody wants to be here and why is that? because we have culture, rule of law , we have culture, rule of law, opportunity and fantastic people. >> okay . do you not think,

>> okay. do you not think, though, jenny? it just looks really pathetic when someone dares to. why can't people be happy with britain ? why do you happy with britain? why do you have to be heckled for saying you know what, i bloody love it here. >> if you are living in poverty, if your child is living in poverty, if you're living in a room that's got mould , and if room that's got mould, and if you haven't got a house, if you don't have job prospects , what don't have job prospects, what are you talking about? don't have job prospects, what are you talking about ? yes, the are you talking about? yes, the women have smashed the glass ceiling. yes uh, we have situations here that you don't have in other countries. gays are not stone, for instance. but we are moving into a situation where there's a polarisation , where there's a polarisation, where there's a polarisation, where there's a polarisation, where there are some people who can declare, this is a wonderful country to live in. if you're white with a few bob in the bank. but if you are not right, i mean, it's constantly i don't know if he'd cast himself as white. >> i don't know what he'd cast off. >> yeah, well, he's exactly the same background as me. is same background as me. he is russian, jewish, and if you're coming a putin as one of

coming from a putin as one of your newscasters said before, if it's coming from a territorial place , a totalitarian place like place, a totalitarian place like that, then yes, this is a wonderful country. but we have a class system which has only been in invested in by government. well, okay. why is it that people are risking their lives to come to this country? >> it's much better to be somebody on the lowest rung of the ladder in the uk than it is to be in other countries. it's safer. there's opportunity. listen, you can't you cannot have equal outcomes, but you can strive for equal opportunity. and that's what this country does. and it offers so much free stuff . that's why people are stuff. that's why people are coming . coming. >> yeah. if you are an immigrant living, if you're an immigrant and you're living in a boat, on and you're living in a boat, on a boat with no freedom, they are coming to. >> but this is absolute rubbish. look, i'm sorry, jenny, but that is rubbish. they literally have

freedom. there's a taxpayer funded that can funded bus service that they can take the next town. take them into the next town. they've basketball they've got basketball court, they've even they've they've not even got. they've not curfew. jenny if not even got curfew. jenny if you are running away from a country where you face death and persecution and you come here, the least we can do to people like they did to my lot is to welcome with open arms very quickly, very quickly, very quickly, very quickly, very quickly very quickly. quickly, very quickly, very quicklyarezry quickly. quickly, very quickly, very quickly are welcoming them. >> we are welcoming them. >> we are welcoming them. >> we are welcoming them. >> we are welcoming . all right >> we are welcoming. all right okay guys. look. thank you. we obviously look we have obviously look we could have cracked the cracked on with that for the next like to do this next hour. i'd like to do this again. some point again. actually at some point soon. both of you. thank you very much jenny there. very much jenny barnett there. uh, and uh, who is an author and broadcaster. and sarah elliott, special us special adviser for the uk, us special adviser for the uk, us special the special relationship unit at the legatum institute. just to say, of course, the legatum institute is owned legatum group. is owned by the legatum group. the is also one the the group is also one of the lead investors in gb news. thank you much. coming up, a you very much. coming up, a global out over global row has broken out over the death penalty and i reveal all to dethrone all about the plot to dethrone rishi at that warm feeling inside. >> from boxt boilers , sponsors >> from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news . hello

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get ready britain. here we go. what's the latest on the plot to remove the prime minister? next? but first, here's your. news patrick. >> thank you very much. and good evening. from the gb news room. it's just gone 10:00. the headlines. the conservative party has suggested party chairman has suggested there could be more tax cutting announcements come before announcements to come before a general election in the autumn, if follows. this month's reduction in national insurance contributions. earlier richard holden told gb news the 2% cut was just the beginning of a series of possible tax cuts . series of possible tax cuts. >> we're coming out of that very tough period and we're able to outline plans for the outline our plans for the future. i think the actual tax cut. you mentioned the national insurance cut for working people is start of that. we'll see is the start of that. we'll see more of that in march and more of it later in the year as well.

but have that new direction but we have that new direction of clear . of travel, which is clear. >> a british tanker is >> a british oil tanker is currently on fire after being hit by a missile off the coast of yemen . that's as threats from of yemen. that's as threats from houthi rebels continue to. we understand fighting understand fire fighting equipment on board is currently being deployed to control that blaze that vessel. blaze aboard that vessel. maritime security officials are saying to us that the crew on the ship are safe. it follows reports this morning of another missile strike and explosions near a separate oil tanker in the red sea . this week, prime the red sea. this week, prime minister rishi sunak has warned of more strikes against the rebels if their so called illegal and unacceptable attacks on commercial ships don't come to end . elsewhere the to an end. elsewhere the international court of justice has today ordered israel to prevent death and damage in its offensive against hamas. a large majority of the 17 judges in the hague voted for urgent action, but they fell short of ordering a ceasefire. instead the court ordered israel to refrain from any acts that could fall under the genocide convention. israel's prime minister benjamin

netanyahu, says his country will continue, though to do what's necessary to defend itself . necessary to defend itself. well, in some news just coming to us in the last few minutes in the us, donald trump has been ordered to pay more than $83 million in damages to former female journalist e jean carroll . the seven man, two woman jury took less than three hours to reach that verdict . the payout reach that verdict. the payout is far more than the minimum $10 million that carol had been seeking . it comes in conclusion seeking. it comes in conclusion of a defamation case that she had brought against trump , had brought against trump, accusing him of destroying her reputation by denying that he raped her nearly three decades ago. was in court earlier ago. trump was in court earlier for closing argument, but he wasn't in the room when that verdict read out moments ago verdict was read out moments ago . back here in the uk , baroness . back here in the uk, baroness michelle mone and her husband have had their assets frozen following an application by the crown prosecution service. the financial times is reporting it amounts to around £75 million.

it comes as the couple are investigated for their involvement in supplying ppe dunng involvement in supplying ppe during the pandemic. michelle mone had previously admitted she did lie when denying connections she had to medpro , which made she had to medpro, which made profits of £60 million in in sport , as we've been hearing sport, as we've been hearing today. jurgen klopp has promised he will never manage another engush he will never manage another english club after announcing he is stepping down as liverpool's manager at end of this manager at the end of this season, was season, liverpool was transformed under his leadership, six trophies leadership, winning six trophies including the premier league in 2020 and the champions league a year before . for speaking to year before. for speaking to reporters this afternoon , he reporters this afternoon, he said there'll be plenty of time for smooth transition . for a smooth transition. >> with all the responsibility you have this job and these you have in this job and these kind things, have to be kind of things, you have to be absolutely of your absolutely on top of your own game. and i am game. that's how it is. and i am , um, but i'm doing this for 24 years now. i realised, um, that this is that my, my, my resources are not endless . resources are not endless. >> the crown prosecution service says harmful myths about rape

and consent continue to impact survivors and justice. in the largest survey of its kind in five years, 1 in 12 people were found to believe that being in a relationship means there's automatic consent to sex. it also revealed that more than half of 18 to 24 year olds were unsure if it's still a rape, if a victim doesn't resist or fight back , the cps says it will use back, the cps says it will use the findings to update trading and training and guidance for prosecutors, aiming to stop false beliefs . new figures false beliefs. new figures reveal there's a clear geographical divide in life expectancy across the uk, the south of england has the highest expectancy for life, while the north lags behind the office for national statistics data shows a gap of over a decade for men and more than seven years for women . more than seven years for women. hampshire tops the list for men at 83.7 years, while blackpool in lancashire has the lowest at 73.4 years. campaigners are calling on the government for more targeted intervention to bndge more targeted intervention to bridge the gap . that's the bridge the gap. that's the

latest news from the gb newsroom. for now . for more. newsroom. for now. for more. we're on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. just say play gb news now, though, it's back to . patrick. there is it's back to. patrick. there is a plot to oust prime minister rishi sunak . rishi sunak. >> well, now he knows how it feels, doesn't he? his immigration minister, robert jenrick, went 11. spartans voted against rwanda plan. it's against the rwanda plan. it's rumoured that conservative party donors funded polling which showed how badly rishi sunak would do at the general election. also funded election. they also funded polling showing how if they got rid of him and replaced him with a leader that showed true conservative values, then the tories would beat keir starmer. that was accompanied by an article by lord frost, who was refusing to reveal who funded that polling. then sir simon case openly called for rishi to go.then case openly called for rishi to go. then rishi's pollster and special adviser went, saying that mr sunak is going to get battered in the nigel farage if he comes back, will wipe the

tories off the face of the earth before christmas. then yesterday we revealed a plan to replace mr sunak with penny mordaunt and to promise a general election within 100 days of her coming to office. well, now, today , office. well, now, today, there's an article revealing that most tory mps openly think that most tory mps openly think that the prime minister can't win . i spoke to a source who win. i spoke to a source who said that the next few weeks are going to be a slow drip, drip, drip and that mr sunak's premiership could succumbed to a slow death akin to chinese water torture. the plan to get rid of rishi sunak is real and it is happening as we speak. does he deserve this though ? is this deserve this though? is this karma for what happened to boris johnson and the role he allegedly played in it's allegedly played in that? it's worth of worth reminding ourselves of what the last opinion poll was before mr sunak resigned as chancellor to boris johnson. so there we go. so the tories were three points behind labour. there were three points behind them. now there are around 25 points behind. clearly ousting bofis points behind. clearly ousting boris johnson, who the public

did vote for, then ousting liz truss, who the party members voted for and replacing her with someone that not even the mps truly has been truly voted for has been catastrophic . rishi sunak had truly voted for has been catastrophic. rishi sunak had a massive role to play all of massive role to play in all of that. massive role to play in all of that . is the massive role to play in all of that. is the prime minister now actually really just suffering the fate that he deserves? is it any shock that his colleagues took the knife that mr sunak stuck into boris's back? wipe the blood off it and then shoved it straight into his to respond to this. now i'm joined again by tv news legend john sergeant, the large at the mail the editor at large at the mail on charlotte griffiths on sunday. charlotte griffiths and social commentator joanna jaflue. and social commentator joanna jarjue . so, there jarjue. so, john, there is a plot. this plot is for a slow drip , drip, plot. this plot is for a slow drip, drip, drip. plot. this plot is for a slow drip , drip, drip. whether or not drip, drip, drip. whether or not it or not, we'll have to it works or not, we'll have to wait and see. but you think wait and see. but do you think he it? wait and see. but do you think he no, it? wait and see. but do you think he no, of it? he doesn't. >> no, of course he doesn't. i mean, what what you're seeing here is just massive frustration on the tory benches because they're now beginning to realise they're now beginning to realise they really are going to lose. and they thought that if they have a new person, they're someone like rishi sunak, highly intelligent and businesslike ,

intelligent and businesslike, won't get carried away . well, won't get carried away. well, it'll all be much more stable. and in those conditions, surely, surely , they thought amongst surely, they thought amongst themselves the tory opinion polls will get better. well, they've not. yeah, and they haven't. that is sending some of them frankly sort of well crazy. i think they're worried. >> they're worried about the future of the conservative party as a whole. i actually think it's from being oh, well, it's gone from being oh, well, we kicking at this we might get a kicking at this election grief. what election to grief. what happens if incredibly well , if reform do incredibly well, and if everyone and then what happen if everyone stays the stays with reform and the potential of the potential obliteration of the conservative party now, once they start collecting all these things together , it is like things together, it is like someone having a nervous breakdown . breakdown. >> know, it's extremely >> you know, it's extremely difficult to calm them down and say, one at say, look, do one thing at a time. would it help if you removed rishi sunak? the answer would you've got to have would be no. you've got to have a very. don't think so. well a you've got to have someone who's going to emerge from somewhere to take over and they've got to be jolly good. remember margaret thatcher had always to put up

with the chance of michael heseltine ahead of her in the polls . so, i mean, if you go polls. so, i mean, if you go back through any of the precedents in the past, this doesn't help . doesn't help. >> do you think they do do you think there's a little bit of revenge here or karma for, for what? the role that sunak played in boris johnson's demise. >> there is a bit of a karma >> um, there is a bit of a karma situation as nadine situation going on as nadine dorries said as well. dorries said this week as well. but you know, politics is a dirty , dirty business. you know, dirty, dirty business. you know, rishi sunak, he stuck the knife into boris many , many people into boris many, many people stuck the knife into boris and many , many people are sticking many, many people are sticking the knife into rishi. it's just a dirty, game, isn't it? a dirty, dirty game, isn't it? i don't he's don't think, i don't think he's a particularly person . a particularly disliked person. um, he's just, he's just they're kind of like rats in a sack trying to escape, really, at this point, aren't they? yeah. you know, there's nothing really , truly offensive he's done. and of been a of course, rwanda has been a disaster, it's just it just disaster, but it's just it just seems behind the scenes that they're get used they're just trying to get used to not going to win. >> yeah . johnny, you look at >> yeah. johnny, you look at this had this now. we've had the supposedly polls actually

supposedly anyway polls actually funded by conservative party donors just desperately trying to highlight to the nation how much of a kicking they think they're get next they're going to get at the next election. then you've had a resignation of an immigration minister, resignation of his minister, the resignation of his special adviser and chief pollster, who was an ardent remainer. anyway, actually, i was quite surprised that he was actually given that job. but anyway, um, and then we've seen anyway, um, and then we've seen a l anyway, um, and then we've seen a , drip, drip of a slow drip, drip, drip of people coming out. got, i people coming out. we've got, i think, by—election. think think, a by—election. i think i'm saying on the 15th i'm right in saying on the 15th of february, i know behind the scenes that scenes they're saying that that's real that's going to be a real bellwether. and i think we could see pretty we're going to see pretty sure we're going to see pretty sure we're going to see more traction in see some some more traction in the that. do you the days after that. do you think deserves this? do you think he deserves this? do you get what you deserve in this situation ? situation? >> well, i almost wonder if people have kind of over exaggerated rishi sunak's role within this. i think some some of it could end up being a bit of it could end up being a bit of conspiracy as well. not saying hands were saying that his hands were completely but the extent completely clean, but the extent to know, um, to which, you know, really, um, uh, boris fans kind of uh, big boris fans kind of decided that, oh , rishi sunak decided that, oh, rishi sunak was, you know, the reason why,

you know, he, um, botched it basically left his role or was forced to be pushed out of his role. i think that that's sometimes has been, um, exaggerated. but what i do think as well is that the recent migration bill, um, votes have been more so a test of loyalty. and i think a lot of the tory mps, you know, if you were to interview them today, they'd probably no. the party isn't probably say no. the party isn't divided. only people, divided. only 11 people, you know the tory rebels, but know were the tory rebels, but actually 60 of voted actually 60 of them voted against the amendment. and i think that's and exactly that's what we've seen since. >> yeah, exactly. and what have we seen since? uh, it does seem like a very, um , you know, like a very, um, you know, disunited party doesn't see. john, look, what do you think should actually happen here? because the argument could be that if this continues and this drip continues, he should just call a snap election and get it over with. call a snap election and get it ovewell,. would have loved >> well, they would have loved to have that. mean, to have done that. i mean, there's doubt that with this there's no doubt that with this rwanda going on and rwanda problem going on and getting because more getting worse because more people across the people will come across the channel people will come across the channel, they won't resolve it. there be legal problems , is

there will be legal problems, is it's not going to be simple . and it's not going to be simple. and to then that we're now at to then find that we're now at war the houthis. we've got war with the houthis. we've got enormous problems area . enormous problems in every area. and also the fundamental point i think, that people are increasingly worried about is that if you look at all the sectors that need more money, whether it's health service, whether it's health service, whether social care , whether it's social care, whether it's social care, whether health, whether it's mental health, whatever it is, and people are, then told, but of course, there's room manoeuvre here there's room for manoeuvre here and we can have tax cuts . the and we can have tax cuts. the idea that the public are going to immediately oh great to immediately think, oh great tax cuts and the opinion polls will then go into the conservatives favour. i don't see it happening. i think what's funny is that the people who, you know, kind of orchestrate in this revolt, i guess, against rishi sunak, i actually think that what they're trying to push him actually what's him to do is actually what's making further and making them slide further and further polls , further down in the polls, because i think the next election is going to be built on always going to be based on the economy rwanda. economy rather than rwanda. >> of this rishi sunak >> so all of this rishi sunak you have to leave echr you have to leave the echr and you have to leave the echr and you go harder. that you have to go harder. in that sense, actually think

sense, i don't actually think we'll into votes. we'll translate into votes. so it doesn't really sense for it doesn't really make sense for me know, tory me that these, you know, tory mps them or 11 of them mps, 60 of them or 11 of them are being rebels. mps, 60 of them or 11 of them are fascinating s. mps, 60 of them or 11 of them are fascinating moment when it >> fascinating moment when it comes the run the comes to the long run at the moment. because uh, last moment. right. because uh, last night i read out on one of the front pages that is out there today. i think you see independent, where the labour party advised to party are being advised to reverse tax cuts that haven't happened yet. right. so it's a remarkable situation where one party clearly thinks that the best way to win an election is to openly come out and push back against tax cuts that may not even be implemented. i mean, it's a remarkable state of affairs. do see affairs. charlotte, do you see rishi the tories rishi sunak leading the tories into the next election? whenever that think he'll stick around >> i think he'll stick around till or whenever it is. till november or whenever it is. um, i don't him winning. um, but i don't see him winning. unfortunately . unfortunately for him. >> well, neither clearly do a lot of the lot of members of the conservative party, but there we are. very look are. thank you very much. look coming news tonight. tomorrow's news tonight. now in the paper of. you'll tomorrow's news tonight. now in the anywhereiaper of. you'll tomorrow's news tonight. now in the anywhereiapethe . you'll tomorrow's news tonight. now in the anywhereiapethe telly�*ll get anywhere on the telly at 10:30 pm. on the plus some 10:30 pm. on the dot, plus some viral videos, stories viral videos, explosive stories that you will not want to miss. but next, a global row has

broken out over the death penalty . why? well, because penalty. why? well, because the state nitrogen penalty. why? well, because the stigas nitrogen penalty. why? well, because the stigas an nitrogen penalty. why? well, because the stigas an inmate nitrogen penalty. why? well, because the stigas an inmate to nitrogen penalty. why? well, because the stigas an inmate to death'ogen penalty. why? well, because the stigas an inmate to death quite to gas an inmate to death quite slowly, actually, as it turned out, it high time now that out, is it high time now that the world ended the the developed world ended the death or do you death penalty? or do you actually want to see brought actually want to see it brought back joined by american back in? i'm joined by american lawyer and very own nana lawyer and our very own nana akua to battle it out. radically different there. i'm different views there. i'm patrick tonight. it is patrick christys tonight. it is only

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news is. >> welcome back. now a prisoner in alabama has become the first person in the world to be executed with nitrogen gas. the execution was expected to take just a few minutes, but it ended up taking around 25. kenneth smith was convicted with a life sentence in 1988 for murdering a woman in a killing for hire situation . now, alabama is among situation. now, alabama is among three states trying out this alternative execution method , alternative execution method, which has sparked a global discussion over the death penalty. many accused the method of being inhumane, calls for it to go completely. of course, others say that the death penalty is the only fitting punishment for the most heinous crimes, and actually really want to have the death penalty back here in britain. so i'm asking, would you have the death penalty ? should we reintroduce the death with me now? death penalty with me now? is american lawyer carol kilgore. carol, you very much. carol, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. tell little about this tell us a little bit about this in instance. so so in the first instance. so so what the reason what happened here? the reason behind they essentially behind why they essentially decided gas a man to

decided to legally gas a man to death in alabama. >> well, initially he was they were they tried to inject him with a some sort of substance a few years ago . that and it few years ago. that and it didn't work because they couldn't find a vein. and they spent a sort of four hours looking a vein which you looking for a vein which you think about. i mean, it's pretty barbaric, kind of picture there. um, so it went back to the and the jury actually wanted to forestall him from being sentenced to death . the jury sentenced to death. the jury wanted him to be imprisoned for life, but the judge overruled them . but in this instance, he them. but in this instance, he was asked which way he wanted to die or be executed, and he chose this new. >> so he did choose it . >> so he did choose it. >> so he did choose it. >> then he did probably well because he had ptsd. after the injection failed attempt . right. injection failed attempt. right. >> mhm, mhm. and the practicalities of it . then it practicalities of it. then it was supposed to take more moments for this individual to die. we think it took how long. >> i think it was, was it 24. it was, it was several minutes. it

was, it was several minutes. it was more than a few minutes, 25 minutes i think. was more than a few minutes, 25 miryeah. think. was more than a few minutes, 25 miryeah. andik. was more than a few minutes, 25 miryeah. and not particularly >> yeah. and not particularly peaceful as well. >> i mean apparently >> no, i mean apparently he convulsed gurney and it convulsed on the gurney and it was it quite , i mean, of was it was quite, i mean, of hinckley the way in which it was done was actually more barbaric than than they had predicted. and it's the first time that they've done this. but in fact, this method of execution is being banned in alabama state for animals, if it's not fit for animals, why should it be used for humans ? for humans? >> yeah, indeed. and as i understand it, one of the key reasons why they decided to go for because for this method was because a lot of drug companies are now refusing for their products for you. >> right, exactly . they're >> right, exactly. they're refusing to allow their products to be used for, um, executions . ions. >> okay. >> okay. >> gosh. okay well, i'm hoping that shortly we might be able to introduce, akua. our introduce, uh, nana akua. our very own gb news presenter. i'm not sure she's there just yet, because it does beg the question, doesn't whether or question, doesn't it? whether or not should have death not we should have the death penalty in this so you penalty in this country. so you come country that does

come from a country that does have the death penalty. does occasionally like we've occasionally use it like we've just are you just seen here. now are you against death penalty against the death penalty then? >> actually and in the >> um, i am actually and in the us there's, there's a few states that it. florida, that do still have it. florida, alabama , i think mississippi is alabama, i think mississippi is another one. um, and, and i mean, my philosophy on it is that a prisoner or a, you know, convicted criminal can always be rehabilitated . right. um, even rehabilitated. right. um, even if you know , you just never if you know, you just never know. you can't predict the future as to what is possible . future as to what is possible. um, oftentimes they are mentally ill. they have had , uh, in many ill. they have had, uh, in many circumstances , the majority of circumstances, the majority of circumstances, the majority of circumstances , uh, these types circumstances, uh, these types of people are from disadvantaged backgrounds and they end up getting very , very incompetent getting very, very incompetent legal representation by public defenders . defenders. >> this is probably the perfect point to bring in nana akua, because i think i think none of mine have some might have some very different views. there um, nana. so look, would you bring the death penalty back in the uk and also what do you make of

that then, that people from, from backgrounds from disadvantaged backgrounds or people can always be rehabilitated. you think ? >> okay 7- >> okay . 7— >> okay . first 7 >> okay . first of ? >> okay . first of all, send me >> okay. first of all, send me the violin . seriously? um, no , i the violin. seriously? um, no, i think the death penalty should be brought back in this country. i'm actually sick to death of heanng i'm actually sick to death of hearing people say, oh , well, hearing people say, oh, well, people can rehabilitated and people can be rehabilitated and dee dee doo. let's take dee dee doo dee doo. let's take the case of this guy. who is you know, the case gone already . know, the case has gone already. uh, he basically killed three people. we're not sure if he actually did kill them. >> i mean, that wasn't the, uh. i mean, he still maintains that he was in the room. if i didn't mind if i just. >> all right, well, go on. >> all right, well, go on. >> nana. okay. >> nana. okay. >> i don't know what i'm going to the case to say, so let's take the case in nottingham. definitely in nottingham. he definitely killed these three people. there's cctv and everything of him right ? uh, there's cctv and everything of him right? uh, in the him doing this right? uh, in the end, responsibilities end, diminished responsibilities and manslaughter. it and manslaughter. that's what it comes . down but yet he sat comes to. down but yet he sat and ambushed and waited. and they had paranoid they say that he had paranoid schizophrenia. didn't take schizophrenia. he didn't take his does the his medication. where does the responsibility for the victim , responsibility for the victim, the where does the

responsibility for the person committing these crimes? when does come in? so in my does it come in? and so in my view, he would be the first one that executed if it that i would have executed if it was that were if the death was if that were if the death penalty were available in this country are just my country. and these are just my views. okay frankly, no, no, we don't don't rape someone don't we don't rape someone who's about raping other people. >> we don't give the same retributive punishment. >> nana you nana wrap it up and then and then we'll go back and forth. >> i think there's too much of this. this is the thing. these these are the very same liberal people who, if something happened people who, if something happe|be the first to press would be the first ones to press that button. so i think it's about time we stop being lily about time we stop being so lily livered about time we stop being so lily lidon't how killed i don't care how they're killed ehhen i don't care how they're killed either, by the way, as long as i know they've executed, know they've been executed, if they've committed a crime. and in we he did it. in this case, we know he did it. >> okay. all right. go on. >> okay. all right. go on. >> i mean, studies have shown that actual death is that the actual death penalty is used in america, hasn't actually had effect on had any deterrent effect on crime. so if that's what you're after, if you're if you think having the death penalty in britain to people britain is going to stop people from murdering, most from murdering, and i mean, most of go about like

of the people that go about like the nottingham, uh, criminal that you gave as an that you that you gave as an example are extremely mentally ill. um, if you if you look at all the states and all the situations in the us where they do have the death penalty , um, do have the death penalty, um, like i said before , uh, the like i said before, uh, the pubuc like i said before, uh, the public defenders that are assigned to these cases , i'm assigned to these cases, i'm sorry, this is not a nice thing to say, but they're geriatric. they're incompetent . they fall they're incompetent. they fall asleep the trials . so most of asleep in the trials. so most of the times these defendants do not get a fair trial . it's not get a fair trial. it's a barbaric practice. and quite frankly, as i said before , you frankly, as i said before, you know, if somebody commits a rape, we don't. then you know, rape, we don't. then you know, rape them back. okay that's not a retributive justice. nana on this kind of for a civilised society is not the way we work as a society. and for somebody who has committed these crimes , who has committed these crimes, i'll come in on the guilt that they have to live with and being punished and by to punished and by, by having to live with themselves is a is a much better punishment. >> nana. come on. >> nana. come on. >> so okay. so somebody commits a rape. that's a rape. you've

not executed or killed someone. the person is now. no not the person is now. no longer not existing. the most heinous existing. so the most heinous and worst crime in on earth has to be when you're murdering somebody that you have taken a life that's first of all, so that's not rape . uh, but yes, that's not rape. uh, but yes, people should be punished for rape as well. but you've taken a life. uh, secondly, to your point about actually, it's more cruel. first of all, you talk about the death being about the death penalty being barbaric, it's barbaric, but then you say it's actually cruel to people actually cruel to keep people alive they've committed alive if they've committed a crime. so which way air are we with this? are you trying to be cruel or not? to me, well, the death actually the death penalty is actually the death penalty is actually the death penalty is actually the death penalty actually much death penalty is actually a much kinder remove kinder way because you remove these the situation. these people from the situation. and , don't to pay and frankly, i don't want to pay for want to pay and frankly, i don't want to pay for these want to pay and frankly, i don't want to pay for these people.want to pay and frankly, i don't want to pay for these people. iant to pay and frankly, i don't want to pay for these people. i ift to pay and frankly, i don't want to pay for these people. i if somebody can be rehabilitated, maybe there's a case and each one should be case by case, and there are many situations where most people can't. and most of these people can't. and i think, seriously, we need to start looking at that because they cost a fortune to keep them alive. it also alive. and in the end, it also costs fortune. costs a fortune. >> it also costs fortune >> it also costs a fortune to kill them. and killing kill them. and the killing is

neven kill them. and the killing is never. never never. the killing is never humane. there's never a humane way to do it. i mean, hanging, i'm sorry, but they defecate all over themselves and it's humiliating. so the guillotine might have been a sort of humane way back in the day to do it. i mean, injection like with this guy, they couldn't find a vein . guy, they couldn't find a vein. the nitrous nitrogen suffocation is absolutely barbaric. as we have seen evidence of in the fact that he convulsed for 24 minutes before passing . and who minutes before passing. and who are we to decide who lives and dies? we are not. well, it's not our. it's not another. you just said taking a life is wrong. so if taking a life is wrong, it's wrong. period. it's not. it's still. well, okay. this is this is the same. >> i mean , it's neverjustified. >> i mean, it's neverjustified. >> i mean, it's neverjustified. >> you're just interpreted something. then you just made it add something else. look, taking add something else. look, taking a life in terms of murdering someone the someone is wrong, but the punishment for that, if you are found to have done this, i have no problem with lethal injection

or the death penalty. and that would be that would be something that had been agreed with the society a punishment for that society as a punishment for that particular of crime . and particular type of crime. and each be looked at each crime will be looked at individually and, you know, the whole , you know, you can't just whole, you know, you can't just do it, you know , blanket like do it, you know, blanket like that. but afraid that. but i'm afraid that i don't i really agree with don't i really don't agree with you i think it's easy you on this. i think it's easy to sit there and say, you talk about how he some people convulse and people, convulse and some people, oh, it's and so what about it's awful. and so what about his about the his victim? what about the victims? and about the victims? and what about the victims? and what about the victims families have to victims families who have to live this for the rest of live with this for the rest of their that their their their lives? that their their partner or loved, loved one has been killed in such a barbaric way? i would fine if they way? i would be fine if they were executed. i could live with myself . myself. >> trying to lessen >> i'm not trying to lessen their >> i'm not trying to lessen the i'm obviously. i mean, >> i'm not, obviously. i mean, it's thing , >> i'm not, obviously. i mean, it's thing, but, you it's a terrible thing, but, you know, doesn't. still know, it doesn't. it still doesn't uh , we doesn't justify it. and, uh, we when we know that the person are not getting due process and it will never be applied in a fair and correct manner because you were never there, you never have the actual evidence and

knowledge and know what was going on in that person's mind . going on in that person's mind. and if they were mentally ill, if they were not compos mentis, then then you don't know . you then then you don't know. you know what what what rehabilitation could be done. >> can i just can i just read out? >> i'm going to read out and i'll put this i'll put this to you. right. says steve you. right. it says steve marshall is the attorney general for okay. guy's for alabama. okay. this guy's piped up and said, so my colleagues across country, colleagues across the country, alabama, has done it. and now so can you. and we stand ready to assist implementing this assist you in implementing this method in your state. um, nana. i mean, this guy is obviously bangin i mean, this guy is obviously bang in favour of it. i suppose the problem is nana, isn't it, that it's all well and good calling for the death penalty . calling for the death penalty. it's whether or not an innocent person could ever end up being sent their death. and does sent to their death. and does the risk that outweigh any the risk of that outweigh any quotes justice being quotes on quotes? justice being served in that sense for you ? served in that sense for you? >> okay, so first of all, you would have to know 100% that they did and for example, they did it. and so for example, they did it. and so for example, the guy nottingham, the cctv, he actually and we know he

actually did it. and we know he did the guy who executed did it. uh, the guy who executed somebody, the one america we somebody, the one in america we know it . so he's not know he did it. so he's not denying he's done so denying it. he's done it. so there wasn't this here we go, there wasn't in this here we go, here we go. i've not finished. so when you that the person so when you know that the person has i don't see the has done it, i don't see the problem with and really problem with it. and i really don't whether suffer don't care whether they suffer in literally have in between or i literally have no compassion for somebody clear on that murdered somebody else. i mean , i mean, this one still i mean, i mean, this one still claims he was in the room but didn't actually commit the act. >> always going >> i mean, so it's always going to to a question of to come down to a question of facts , and question fact facts, and the question of fact is to be decided by is always going to be decided by a jury of the person's peers. now, i you know, i don't want to sound like a lefty here, but a jury sound like a lefty here, but a jury of your peers oftentimes times these are sent times when these people are sent into the court, they are not given a jury of their peers. and they're not given a fair trial. and so it's the whole system and the people that are on death row currently in texas, in florida , currently in texas, in florida, are that are there there have been many instances historically, somewhat very recently , was taken off of death

recently, was taken off of death row , where they've been found to row, where they've been found to have been wrongly , wrongly have been wrongly, wrongly sentenced, wrongly convicted . sentenced, wrongly convicted. >> okay. all right. >> okay. all right. >> so it does happen as a miscarriage of justice. >> but thank you very much. neither of are budging on neither of you are budging on this there this obviously. and hey, there we holding to the we go holding a mirror up to the nafion we go holding a mirror up to the nation . i think actual nation. i think on this actual issue, this how divided we issue, this is how divided we are when look at the are when you look at the opinion. seriously, when opinion. no, seriously, when you look opinion the look at the opinion polls on the death penalty, it is death penalty, the way it is actually split, actually incredibly split, incredibly actually incredibly split, incre much. american very much. that's american lawyer there. and lawyer carol kilgore there. and gb news presenter akua . and gb news presenter nana akua. and right. so i've still got a fair bit coming your way actually. why well, because we've got tomorrow's news tonight. now in the liveliest paper of you, you will on telly will get on the telly very shortly. some viral videos, will get on the telly very shortlexplosive �*ne viral videos, will get on the telly very shortlexplosive storiesl videos, will get on the telly very shortlexplosive stories you eos, will get on the telly very shortlexplosive stories you don't some explosive stories you don't want to miss, including is it trouble in paradise for harry and meghan? were they caught arguing patrick arguing on camera? patrick christys

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tomorrow's news tonight, in the liveliest pay per view anywhere on the telly. the first front pages have just delivered pages have just been delivered and. right. the telegraph first us to move nuclear weapons back to uk. that is an interesting story. the one that we're going to be focusing in on very shortly. there is church in trans row after boy four joins primary school as a girl. there is a lot of detail in this which we will be discussing with the panelin we will be discussing with the panel in a second, more front pages. now though, the independent i have here in front of me name the secret donors behind plot to topple sunak. we're ahead of the game. we've spoken about this a bit tonight. tory witch hunt lord is spoken about this a bit tonight. tory warned unt lord is spoken about this a bit tonight. tory warned he lord is spoken about this a bit tonight. tory warned he faces is spoken about this a bit tonight. tory warned he faces expulsion now warned he faces expulsion from the party unless he fesses up to who was behind those polls . as we go to the i. uk's golden age with china harmed british intelligence , says former mi6 intelligence, says former mi6 spy intelligence, says former mi6 spy chief. if only someone could have seen this coming. if only someone could have suggested possibly that cosying up to china, even to the point where we maybe let them have to

we maybe let them have access to our sites , could in some we maybe let them have access to our pose sites , could in some we maybe let them have access to our pose a sites , could in some we maybe let them have access to our pose a securityould in some we maybe let them have access to our pose a security risk. in some way pose a security risk. british intelligence agencies are concerned about it. we go to the mail. camilla smile. that says the king is fine. good. that's what we like to hear. right? okay, let's , um. let's right? okay, let's, um. let's get stuck into that story that's on the front. the telegraph. all right. so, boy four allowed to join church of england school as a girl. the church england's a girl. the church of england's primary school allowed four primary school allowed a four year boy join as girl. year old boy to join as a girl. the child sex hidden from the child sex was hidden from classmates. they've been described . wokeist described now as trauma. wokeist john, talk us through what we know and know about this so far and crucially, your views on it. is this just madness? do you think? >> well, mean, it's just >> well, no. i mean, it's just it what happens if it just shows what happens if you give clear advice. you don't give clear advice. yes. the government spent yes. and the government spent a long the long time working out what the advice should it's still advice should be, and it's still advice should be, and it's still a muddled . a bit muddled. >> if you need advice on this thing, need thing, isn't it just do you need advice this though? really advice on this though? really isn't it? >> know, obviously >> you know, but obviously no, this phenomenon this is a modern phenomenon where you wouldn't have where you it wouldn't have happened and we would happened in my day and we would have would have have it would have been perfectly the perfectly obvious. at the primary i went to,

primary school, i went to, i can't imagine this happening. i can't imagine this happening. i can't imagine this happening. i can't imagine anyone thinking that this would be sort of acceptable. or you could keep the gender secret or the whole thing is very much something which has happened in the last few years. i suspect it will calm down well, but at the moment , calm down well, but at the moment, aren't the calm down well, but at the moment , aren't the government moment, aren't the government and the church of england are stuck because they're it's not clear what the advice is . so the clear what the advice is. so the school clearly thought , oh, school clearly thought, oh, well, let's see how all this goes. >> but interesting, isn't it, that it's a complete disaster? reading with reading between the lines. if this is a four year old boy who's, um, now living as a girl at school, i mean, there must be an element of that coming from the parents. one would imagine. >> but also the boy from all would imagine. >> iaccount the boy from all would imagine. >> iaccount ise boy from all would imagine. >> iaccount is nowl from all would imagine. >> iaccount is now behaving this account is now behaving very like a boy . so he's very much like a boy. so he's showing body the showing off his body to the girls and whole so girls and the whole thing. so there's it's not as if he is, you know , it was all pointless you know, it was all pointless anyway. well, how could he at that that he's going that age decide that he's going to be trans and stick to it? so someone is obviously influenced

the kid in the first place? >> yeah, yeah. go on. surely. >> yeah, yeah. go on. surely. >> beautiful story. >> beautiful story. >> yeah. you got views on this, haven't you? >> well, it's just it says that the very hard to, the school worked very hard to, to hide he was boy. the school worked very hard to, to hiche he was boy. the school worked very hard to, to hiche got he was boy. the school worked very hard to, to hiche got to he was boy. the school worked very hard to, to hiche got to schools boy. the school worked very hard to, to hiche got to school andioy. the school worked very hard to, to hiche got to school and i'm then he got to school and i'm quoting the telegraph here and flashed willy. so they flashed his willy. so they pretty much found the illusion gone, isn't it? >> because, as john says, he's a little boy and i've got a three year old who's about to turn four, i've five year four, and i've got a five year old, year old's got to old, the five year old's got to gnps old, the five year old's got to grips now three grips with gender now the three year old i've got a son as well and an eight month old son. >> year keeps >> the three year old keeps calling my son a she, right? because she's literally too young gender. young to understand gender. she gets the whole time. gets it mixed up the whole time. she's muddled , muddled, and she's all muddled, muddled, and she's you know , she's nearly four. and you know, i that the i just can't believe that the parents of this four year old have allowed him or they, to decide on their gender. i mean, my four year old doesn't even know what a he she is at this point. >> we've got a statement here from one of parents, joanna, from one of the parents, joanna, which says this trans identifying a identifying child form a friendship obviously with friendship group, obviously with other would you

other girls, as you would if you are a girl, quote unquote . um, are a girl, quote unquote. um, then one of the daughters started behaving very strangely, refused to talk or listen to the radio, was hiding under the table, suffering from a stressed induced insomnia, constipation, grief because apparently she was traumatised by the reality that this turned out to be a boy . and this turned out to be a boy. and why are we doing this to kids? well all i think it's difficult because , um, i actually think because, um, i actually think that we're going to see a lot more of this. >> and talking about the >> and we were talking about the government guidance, but the actual of england's actual church of england's guidance, on this is valuing guidance, um, on this is valuing all god's children. so i think when you have big institutions like this that that kind like this that have that kind of, guidance , obviously of, um, guidance, obviously you're always going to have some people through that people that come through that way. i disagree with the way. i do disagree with the school, not being transparent with the parents, if with the parents, because if i was i would want to was a parent, i would want to know. that when the know. so that when the conversation comes up with my child, explain now , child, i can explain it now, this great point this is actually a great point because we've spoken a lot on this show about whether not because we've spoken a lot on thisparentsbout whether not because we've spoken a lot on thisparents of it whether not because we've spoken a lot on thisparents of the 1ether not because we've spoken a lot on thisparents of the child' not the parents of the child involved have a right to know .

involved have a right to know. >> we've spoken lot about that >> we've spoken a lot about that side of it, but actually something that's not been spoken about a really important about is a really important issue. in the telegraph issue. raised in the telegraph here, parents here, which is do other parents at have a right to at that school have a right to know? know, i think at that school have a right to kn0\of know, i think at that school have a right to kn0\of the know, i think at that school have a right to kn0\of the parents know, i think at that school have a right to kn0\of the parents is

age you've got to have strong evidence , very strong medical evidence, very strong medical evidence, very strong medical evidence . i think there's a evidence. i think there's a problem here of physically like me, who's actually pro—trans and, you know, would wouldn't necessarily kick off if there was a trans child, um, in a school that my kid was in, even though i do think that there is a lot of parental influence, and i don't necessarily think that the kid at that age can kind of figure that out fully. >> you know, that's a bit >> so, you know, that's a bit suspicious me, but i wouldn't suspicious to me, but i wouldn't necessarily be necessarily, you know, be protesting of the school protesting outside of the school because of but even then, because of it. but even then, even from my position, even coming from my position, i would still want so that would still want to know so that if child comes home, can if my child comes home, i can explain have that explain and have that conversation, have level of conversation, have a level of control. >> f e“- g to be something >> there's got to be something in as well. charlotte. >> there's got to be something in ifas well. charlotte. >> there's got to be something in if you all. charlotte. >> there's got to be something in if you do charlotte. >> there's got to be something in if you do send.otte. >> there's got to be something in if you do send your child well, if you do send your child to a church of england school, no.the to a church of england school, no. the church of england is a more progressive than, say, a catholic but catholic school or whatever. but if do send your child to a if you do send your child to a church england school, church of england school, i would have thought that you would have thought that you would be looking to protect it from this kind of trans stuff .

from this kind of trans stuff. stuff. right? i mean, presumably you would not expect this kind of controversy, maybe at a school with a with a fundamental religious element to it, unless they've just deviated completely, i suppose. >> but yeah . well, i mean, i >> but yeah. well, i mean, i send my, my daughter to a church of school, i think of england school, i think i think the thing is schools these days are afraid the parents, days are afraid of the parents, afraid of the parents kicking off. they have to stay off. and so they have to stay vague because they, they're so worried they'll create worried that they'll create warfare outside front gates. warfare outside the front gates. as protests outside as you said, protests outside the so they stay the front gate. so they stay incredibly think incredibly vague. i don't think really it's a religious issue. i think i think he's probably right to say all god's children, but with that, he needs to say, and these are the rules , and and these are the rules, and this is how we're addressing it. and to meet a certain and you have to meet a certain age criteria will age criteria before we will start acknowledging gender in this way, because at the age of four, they're too little. >> yeah, i think there a real >> yeah, i think there is a real serious potential that serious potential here that look, i mean, serious potential here that look, not i mean, serious potential here that look, not thankfully i mean, serious potential here that look, not thankfully actuallyan, well, not thankfully actually clearly children at clearly one of the children at least be incredibly least appears to be incredibly traumatised . but if i had traumatised. but if i had a daughter and that she came to

some kind of harm as a result of something , i mean, some kind of harm as a result of something, i mean, i'd be absolutely fuming . i'd be absolutely fuming. i'd be absolutely. and it is that question , isn't it, of well, question, isn't it, of well, even if you want to be incredibly kind and inclusive to an individual who i suspect by the way, parents have been filling them with this , oh, filling them with this, oh, we're let him assign filling them with this, oh, we'own let him assign filling them with this, oh, we'own lnonsense. ign filling them with this, oh, we'own lnonsense. yeah, his own gender nonsense. yeah, well, greater well, what about the greater good? wider group well, what about the greater go people wider group well, what about the greater go people and wider group well, what about the greater go people and or'ider group well, what about the greater go people and or do r group well, what about the greater go people and or do you»up of people there? and or do you have a duty so anyway, have a duty for that? so anyway, look, got you've got look, so you've got you've got to children be old enough. >> i mean, where it goes wrong is don't even allow this >> i mean, where it goes wrong is to ion't even allow this >> i mean, where it goes wrong is to be 't even allow this >> i mean, where it goes wrong is to be old 'en allow this >> i mean, where it goes wrong is to be old enoughv this >> i mean, where it goes wrong is to be old enough to 1is >> i mean, where it goes wrong is to be old enough to have child to be old enough to have any concept of a i'm sorry for this four year old. i've decided i'm now 14 or 15 and i want to do something different. yeah it was a phase, but this is crazy at age. at this age. >> yeah , it's not fair on the boy. >> it's not fair on the boy who's four. because. because he needs to have guidance and needs to have some guidance and not led up the not be, you know, led up the garden path about one. and he's growing up and changing all the time . time. >> all right. >> all right. >> well, look, hey, we're going to that now because to move on from that now because the duke and duchess of sussex

have once caused a have once again caused quite a stir with stir this week by posing with the minister the jamaican prime minister andrew premiere andrew holness, at the premiere of about bob marley. of a new film about bob marley. holness called holness has repeatedly called for become for jamaica to become independent, ties from independent, sever its ties from britain and monarchy. but britain and our monarchy. but but, uh, not all. that's not all that went on at the premiere, though. now this video has now emerged. right. so shows emerged. right. so it shows harry meghan awkwardly harry and meghan awkwardly trying their seats in trying to find their seats in the cinema. then royal fans have been quick to comment that they seem a bit bit confused with how far back they are. sat in the auditorium. there's auditorium. and then there's a bit conversation here and bit of a conversation here and they're not that happy. harry's not then . not sitting down and then. there's another clip as well that shows meghan kind of having a word with him. harry gets up and off, almost tries a word with him. harry gets up an do off, almost tries a word with him. harry gets up an do bidding.lmost tries a word with him. harry gets up an do bidding. charlotte, to do her bidding. charlotte, what? there? to do her bidding. charlotte, what’:they there? to do her bidding. charlotte, what’:they snubbed, there? to do her bidding. charlotte, what’:they snubbed, to ere? were they snubbed, sir, to rothesay something as opposed rothesay or something as opposed to the front row? do to being in the front row? do you snubbed to rac? >> this @ this is classic rac? >> this is classic meghan >> and this is classic meghan and harry. there's loads of clips like this internet clips like this on the internet because people out there sort of make of living of make a sort of living out of finding little minute finding these tiny little minute snapshots between them where they face they drop their game face and what's happened here is they've

realised they're in the fourth row and they're not about realised they're in the fourth rov but d they're not about realised they're in the fourth rov but they y're not about realised they're in the fourth rov but they y're n they about realised they're in the fourth rov but they y're n they should )ut realised they're in the fourth rov but they y're n they should be it, but they know they should be relaxed because that's relaxed about it because that's what but you can what they should be. but you can just they're very what they should be. but you can just underneath 're very what they should be. but you can just underneath it. very what they should be. but you can just underneath it. and tense underneath it. and actually of twitter actually the beauty of twitter and the internet is you can slow it right down and look and they just shoot other look it right down and look and they ju:fury,ot other look it right down and look and they jusfury, because )ther look it right down and look and they jusfury, because they're look it right down and look and they jusfury, because they're not»ok of fury, because they're not in the row and believe the front row and they believe in they are in their minds that they are front a—listers till the day front row a—listers till the day they die. >> stick him on rossjohn, >> you stick him on rossjohn, wouldn't you know? >> you stick him on rossjohn, woti dn't you know? >> you stick him on rossjohn, woti mean,u know?shows once >> i mean, what it shows once again is that couple, again is that this couple, they're just completely out of their depth . they're flung into their depth. they're flung into a situation which is potentially quite tricky for anyone to deal with if they were in the royal family , they would be starved to family, they would be starved to be people who would help them, who would advise them. if this happens, that happens, you might find that they may want to do this. would you this? they're on you do this? but they're on their own, making it up as they go with staff that they go along with staff that they can employ, and then and then sack them so they don't have they don't have the foreign office, still the royal family. >> they would have been in row one. >> i think we should give them a

break. when get break. it's like when people get papped break. it's like when people get papped you're papped in, you know, you're asking and you look asking a question and you look confused all a confused and then all of a sudden couples confused and then all of a sud about couples confused and then all of a sud about to couples confused and then all of a sud about to break couples confused and then all of a sud about to break notles are about to break up. not confused, angry. >> body language is fury. >> his body language is fury. >> his body language is fury. >> it's fury. fury. okay, >> it's fury. he's fury. okay, look. up. more look. coming up, coming up. more of pages for of tomorrow's front pages for you also got you and, uh, we've also got greatest and greatest britain's britain and union plus union jack has nominations. plus the week's viral the star of this week's viral video rayner . stick video is angela rayner. stick around to find out exactly what happened to her in stockport. this is patrick christys tonight. only

this is patrick christys tonight we are on gb news. it's time to return to our paper review now. i've got some more front pages for you . the times nottingham for you. the times nottingham mother calls for inquiry into killings. this is, of course about the nottingham stabbings picture story as well of queen camilla the hospital camilla leaving the hospital where both kate and king charles are. let's go to the guardian . are. let's go to the guardian. israel ordered by court to prevent genocide in gaza . so the

prevent genocide in gaza. so the international court of justice tells israel it must prevent civilian deaths and allow the delivery of aid. they also talking there on the front page about jurgen klopp quitting as liverpool manager. the daily express king chose kate's hospital to save taxpayers money. apparently the king chose to be treated at the hospital where princess wales is where the princess of wales is staying order to save staying in order to save taxpayers money extra taxpayers money on extra security well, we go . um security. well, there we go. um the mirror klopp shock . yep, the mirror klopp shock. yep, jurgen klopp going as jurgen klopp is going as liverpool manager. bad news for all liverpool fans and the sun in out in so king charles fine after the op out out. um it says here uh uncle gary signed up to do celebrity big brother. oh there we go. right. so kate's uncle gary goldsmith is going to be in celebrity big brother. there we go. i must admit, i did not see that one coming when i first reading first started reading this headline, go. headline, but there we go. um, all so look, we're going all right, so look, we're going to, press to, um, actually with my press pack, course, tv pack, who are, of course, tv news legend john sargeant's, editor at the on editor at large at the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths and social jarjue

social commentator joanna jarjue . we're going to talking .we're going to be talking about that's done the about a clip that's done the rounds today, and it's about a clip that's done the rourlatest today, and it's about a clip that's done the rourlatest in today, and it's about a clip that's done the rourlatest in aoday, and it's about a clip that's done the rourlatest in a long and it's about a clip that's done the rourlatest in a long line, it's the latest in a long line, unfortunately, like unfortunately, of incidents like this. so it involves a labour party fundraiser event in stockport where deputy labour leader angela rayner was confronted by a group of pro—palestine protesters. easy for me to say. take a look at a lesson that whilst we are up here, but , lesson that whilst we are up here, but, um, the changes come. >> change has come when you take up this and asking and demanding for ceasefire. i lost my family in gaza. >> just a second. i want to show you my mum. i judith raanan family. what kind of family are you?i family. what kind of family are you? i lose my family. i need my mother. that's the only thing i need. my space. >> i need my mum . >> i need my mum. >> i need my mum. >> all right. so as you saw, the protesters were pushing for to labour support a ceasefire in gaza. police say seven people were removed from that event. john, we've seen a lot of this, aren't we at the moment? i think labour are bang in trouble with it. >> well, i mean it's people are very, very worked about i

very, very worked up about it. i mean when think of, mean it's uh, when you think of, of people like i don't i'm of people like me, i don't i'm not taking, trying to take one side or the other . not taking, trying to take one side or the other. but when you see what's going on in gaza, your doesn't your heart sinks, doesn't it? every time it comes on and you know , it's going to be appalling know, it's going to be appalling . and there's about about . and there's talk about about people not being able to get any food at all and that there'll be famine, there'll be you know, it dismays me, i must say. so it's not surprising that when something like this happens and people think we can do something, they will start protesting. yeah, i mean, look, obviously the other side of it is you know, a lot of these people weren't out there in the streets, you know, saying, what an absolute disgrace. >> october 7 was, etc. it just seemed exercise more seemed to exercise people more when are incidents, you when there are incidents, you know, taking place and bombs being dropped gaza and being being dropped on gaza and potentially happened potentially what happened to ordinary families. but ordinary jewish families. but um, charlotte labour really can't get away from this idea that until they back a ceasefire, they are going to be absolutely dogged by people

protesting in a way that people don't really tend to protest. the conservative party. you don't seem to get this really a conservative events, it seems people expect the party people expect the labour party to don't they? to back a ceasefire. don't they? >> yeah. and you see you can >> yeah. and you can see you can see that angela rayner was almost see that angela rayner was alm�*she said, yeah , yeah. like she just said, yeah, yeah. you was like was you know, it was like she was sort of not that surprised it was and it was quite sort of not that surprised it was because and it was quite sort of not that surprised it was because that|d it was quite sort of not that surprised it was because that guy was quite sort of not that surprised it was because that guy had quite sort of not that surprised it was because that guy had qllot hard because that guy had a lot of voice and showed hard because that guy had a lot of a voice and showed hard because that guy had a lot of a picture voice and showed hard because that guy had a lot of a picture of>ice and showed hard because that guy had a lot of a picture of his and showed hard because that guy had a lot of a picture of his mum.1owed hard because that guy had a lot of a picture of his mum. itrved hard because that guy had a lot of a picture of his mum. it was her a picture of his mum. it was actually very hard to watch and listen here, but >> acas be quite quick here, but do think people are do you think people are justified and harassing justified going up and harassing mps justified going up and harassing mp i justified going up and harassing mpi don't think justified going up and harassing mp i don't think they're >> i don't think they're justified, think justified, but i also think a lot people are really lot of people are really desperate really strong desperate for a really strong opposition to opposition when it comes to the situation , and situation in gaza, and unfortunately, not unfortunately, they're just not getting moment from unfortunately, they're just not gettlabour moment from unfortunately, they're just not gettlabour party. moment from the labour party. >> now we're >> absolutely. now look, we're going be quick going to have to be very quick about whizz going to have to be very quick about it. whizz going to have to be very quick about it. its whizz going to have to be very quick about it. its greatest whizz going to have to be very quick about it. its greatest britain through it. its greatest britain and jackass. who's and union jackass. john, who's your greatest britain? >> an honorary post but >> well, an honorary post but jurgen klopp hold jurgen klopp i mean hold on a moment. he? moment. he's great isn't he? i started my journalistic career in liverpool and i how much in liverpool and i know how much it means to the to have it means to the city to have liverpool as a great team. and of course he's just a great man. >> i mentioned earlier king

charles dutiful prostate in charles's prostate . charles's prostate. >> there we go. well, okay. all right . right. >> god. >> god. >> uh, mine's, uh , five year old >> uh, mine's, uh, five year old harry from wrexham who spends his free time after school reading to residents at a care home. >> oh, okay. lovely ones. it can't be jurgen klopp because i'm a united fan. can't be jurgen klopp because i'm a united fan . um, i am going i'm a united fan. um, i am going to go for king charles. uh, because i want a night at one day. uh, right. because i want a night at one day. uh, right . very quickly. day. uh, right. very quickly. union jackass. robert daley, he's one of these day headful investigators. >> so called from the post office and the post office scandal. he was head up before the inquiry. he would make any apologies. said he was just doing his job. he's a strong and one. just thought this is awful. >> all right. strong contender. god i'm to with god i'm going to go with the z lister that posed with prince harry. >> he's called mario max. he was dubbed the fake prince and he completely hoodwinked harry and made it fool of him and a jackass of him. >> in fact, a jackass. >> in fact, a jackass. >> yes, indeed. >> in fact, a jackass. >> yes, iron.ed. >> come on. »- >> come on. » m >> come on. >> m michel >> i'm going to go with michel eamonn, whose assets have been frozen under the, um, under a court ppe court order following the ppe

scandal. you what. >> f- w-a >> this is actually been a really, tough really, really tough one tonight. go for tonight. i'm going to go for john's, uh, choice there, actually, those actually, because i think those individuals post individuals behind the post office scandal coming out, no remorse, to anything remorse, refusing to do anything is and can is absolutely shocking. and can i just thank you all for being a part panel. so thank you, part of my panel. so thank you, thank thank part of my panel. so thank you, tharto thank part of my panel. so thank you, tharto everybody thank part of my panel. so thank you, tharto everybody at thank part of my panel. so thank you, tharto everybody at home thank part of my panel. so thank you, tharto everybody at home who's you to everybody at home who's been and been watching and tuning in and listening this space, listening in. watch this space, by next week by the way, because next week this in a big way. this show changes in a big way. so i'll tease you with that. have a good weekend. >> brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again! it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. there will be a lot of dry weather this weekend . some dry weather this weekend. some rain in the far northwest. at first before it turns wetter across scotland and northern ireland by sunday and ireland by sunday afternoon, and increasingly windy but essentially high pressure sits to the south. low pressure way to the south. low pressure way to the south. low pressure way to the north over iceland in between on quite a tight pressure gradient and as a result , we're pressure gradient and as a result, we're going to pressure gradient and as a result , we're going to see result, we're going to see a blustery end to friday across

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conservative party chairman has suggested that there could be more tax cutting announcements to before a general to come before a general election in the autumn. it follows this month's reduction in national insurance contributions. richard holden told gb news earlier the 2% cut was just the beginning of a series of possible tax cuts. we're coming out of that very tough period and we're able to outline our plans for the future i >>i -- >> i think hm >> i think the actual tax cut, you mentioned the national insurance cut for working people is the start of that. we'll see more of that in march and more of it later in the year as well. but we that new direction but we have that new direction of clear of travel, which is clear elsewhere. >> houthi rebels have stepped up their attacks on ships in the red sea including red sea tonight, including a missile strike on a british oil tanker, maritime security officials say there is a fire on board that vessel, but the crew on the ship are safe. it follows reports this morning of another missile strike and explosions near a separate oil tanker in the red sea. prime minister rishi sunak has warned this week of more strikes against the rebels if attacks on commercial