morning. your company this morning. >> and we have got an action packed show for you. >> we sure do . as this week the >> we sure do. as this week the government crackdown knife government crackdown on knife crime, ownership and crime, banning the ownership and sale of zombie knives and machetes . we'll be asking if machetes. we'll be asking if going after knives is the right thing to do. there thing to do. or is there a deeper issue at hand? a former gang member will be giving us his opinions. >> our very own peter andre has featured in a new music video this week to raise awareness of teenage bullying and suicide . teenage bullying and suicide. and i've watched this. it is so, so powerful and the composer and the filmmaker fabio d'andrea , is the filmmaker fabio d'andrea, is going to be talking to us about the video and the really important message that it sends 2 million views on instagram already. that video, it's incredible. yeah >> and we'll be celebrating the amazing work this week's amazing work of this week's greatest britain. i love this section. mike jeffrey and his incredible work volunteering in a mountain rescue team . a mountain rescue team. >> and we'll be joined by last year's apprentice winner and another former apprentice contestant to unpick and debate

lord alan sugar's comments this week on the laziness of the tiktok generation . you will have tiktok generation. you will have a view on that. so you won't want to miss it. so we want to know from you are the younger generation entitled? are they lazy and are they full of excuses? because that's what lord sugar's been saying. he said they've got no drive and he gets nothing from this new series of contestants apart from excuses. >> excuses. >> there's sides that >> there's two sides to that one. i can. i can see one. but yeah, i can. i can see what he's saying in some ways, in right before we do in some ways, right before we do anything else, ray addison has all headlines. take it all your news headlines. take it away, . away, ray. j >> guys. good morning. 10:01. i'm ray addison in the gb news room . our top stories this hour. room. our top stories this hour. the king spent last night in hospital after undergoing a procedure for an enlarged prostate . buckingham palace says prostate. buckingham palace says that king charles stayed at the

london clinic, where he's said to be doing well. we can see live footage there if you're watching on television of the front of the hospital. it's the same facility where the princess of wales is being cared for, following abdominal surgery. charles's former butler, grant harrold, told gb news that the british public's response to the royal health scares shows how much they still care. >> people said he was a centric, he was old fashioned out of touch. never saw that when i touch. i never saw that when i worked for him and i think that's public that's what the public are getting that's where getting to see and that's where there's this affection. so the fact that he is having this procedure, obviously the public want to kind of them know want to kind of let them know that of them. that they're thinking of them. and princess of and the same with princess of wales. there's wales. i understand there's been many, and many, many, many letters and cards to her wishing her cards sent to her wishing her the best of health. cards sent to her wishing her the donelan1ealth. cards sent to her wishing her the donelan trump says he'll >> donelan trump says he'll appeal a verdict ordering him to pay appeal a verdict ordering him to pay £65.5 million for defaming the writer . e jean carroll now the writer. e jean carroll now warning for those of you watching on television, the following footage contains flashing images. miss carroll

says that the former president destroyed her reputation by repeatedly denying that he had sexually abused her, despite being found liable in an earlier hearing. posting on social media, trump claimed that the us legal system was being used as a political weapon. eigruber is professor of law at the university of colorado. she says the verdict is a victory for women . women. >> in this case, he not only trashed the victim, but he trashed the victim, but he trashed the victim through saying things that were deemed unstoppably false and that were jury unstoppably false and that were jury had rejected. so i think this is showing victims that they can have their day in court, even against the strongest opponent . us nuclear strongest opponent. us nuclear weapons could be stationed in the uk for the first time in 15 years due to the threat from russia. >> that's to according the telegraph. citing documents from the pentagon procurement contracts reportedly detail how raf lakenheath in suffolk will

house the nuclear warheads, follows warnings from a senior nato official that countries should ready for war with moscow within the next 20 years. the pentagon has refused to confirm or deny the telegraph's report . or deny the telegraph's report. uk intelligence services are not equipped to handle covert threats from china. that's the warning from former m16 deputy head nigel inkster. speaking to the i newspaper, he said that the i newspaper, he said that the problem includes m15 , m16 the problem includes m15, m16 and gchq . q mr inkster and gchq. q mr inkster identified key deficiencies, including language, expertise and historic and cultural awareness . he also said that awareness. he also said that beijing is operating a, quote, industrial scale cyber espionage operations against western countries . the holocaust countries. the holocaust educational trust says that this year's holocaust memorial day will be really difficult due to the ongoing hamas—israel conflict. well known landmarks

will be lit up in purple across the uk later this evening to mark the occasion. chief executive karen pollock said that the huge increase in anti—semitism since the october 7th attacks means that the jewish community will mark the occasion with heavier hearts. members of the public are also being encouraged to light a candle and place it in the window to remember those murdered due to persecution over their identity . this is gb news their identity. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's get back to ellie and peter. >> thanks, ray. now take a look at these. now they're called zombie knives. they're the size of machetes . they have of machetes. they have a serrated blade on one side and a sharp blade on the other. serrated blade on one side and a sharp blade on the other . they sharp blade on the other. they are absolutely terrifying thing, but the government is hoping

finally to ban them. is that the right thing to do? hard to believe it hasn't happened already. yeah, absolutely. >> the home secretary, james cleverly, says that these new restrictions aimed at restrictions are aimed at closing what he calls loophole closing what he calls a loophole which allow some types of which did allow some types of these so—called zombie knives to still be kept and sold. >> but today we want to ask the question, does going after zombie knives solve the issue, or is this a much deeper problem in our society? >> well, we're joined now in the studio by an activist for preventing knife crime and a former gang member, mark bracewell. really good to see you. this morning, mark, and so good to see you talking about such an important issue. and but we to strip this right we wanted to strip this right back because, know, we just back because, you know, we just took at those blades. took a look at those blades. they're they're absolutely terrifying. saying terrifying. and we were saying this morning are kids this morning why are kids even carrying in the carrying these knives in the first place? >> um, i believe and when i speak to some of the children that work with, lot of them that we work with, a lot of them are knives because are carrying knives because they're they're scared they're scared. they're scared that carrying that other people are carrying knives to knives and they're wanting to defend i truly defend themselves. so i do truly

believe a lot of that is out of fear. >> oh, that's so sad. >> oh, that's so sad. >> it is interesting because obviously when we first got told about this , our first reaction about this, our first reaction was, well, they should be banned immediately. but then we have been hearing this. even idris elba had mentioned well, elba had mentioned this as well, that there's , you know, there that there's, you know, there is more there's a deeper more to it. there's a deeper issue. scared. issue. people are scared. they're to protect they're carrying it to protect themselves. so where do we go with this ? where do we go with it? >> i mean, like you said, my self, when i heard they were going to bundle, i was like, well, why they that well, why can't they do that today? we have to wait today? why do we have to wait till or whether is till september? or whether it is that about it? that they're thinking about it? um, truly believe um, but i do truly believe myself that there is a big, deeper just as deeper issue than just just as simple picking up knives i >> -- >> and hu- km“ >> and it starts so young, doesn't it, mark? mean, try doesn't it, mark? i mean, try and to us if you can. and explain to us if you can. i mean, we do find and we do hear stories, don't of gang stories, don't we? of gang members grooming stories, don't we? of gang mem very grooming stories, don't we? of gang mem very children. ning stories, don't we? of gang mem very children. sog very, very young children. so it's breaking that cycle, isn't it. describe to us how it. just describe to us how that how that happens. it. just describe to us how that honeah. happens. it. just describe to us how that honeah. ha happens every >> yeah. it happens in every society . we um, we hear about society. we um, we hear about child labour and things like

that in other countries. but ultimately it happens here in the uk. like you say, gang members grooming members are grooming young children for free labour and cheap labour and it's a way that they can operate without getting caught and they do that by offering them cash. >> don't they? and new trainers and things like that. and these are kids sometimes that have absolutely are kids sometimes that have absyeahly are kids sometimes that have absyeah ,' are kids sometimes that have absyeah , they're offering them >> yeah, they're offering them things. the dreams they're offering of offering them the dreams of, of having a better life and things that won't necessarily that they won't necessarily be able from their home, able to have from their home, whether they be in a one parent family or in a different social climate where they don't have family or in a different social climéother ere they don't have family or in a different social climéother people( don't have family or in a different social climéother people have.t have family or in a different social cliryou her people have.t have family or in a different social cliryou go people have.t have family or in a different social cliryou go and ole have.t have family or in a different social cliryou go and you1ave.t have family or in a different social cliryou go and you talkt have family or in a different social cliryou go and you talk iniave >> you go and you talk in schools, um, can you just give us a little bit more about your background so that we can, you know, and then explain why you're going into schools now and about and talking about it? >> i grew up a, in a, >> i mean, i grew up in a, in a, in which you would say in an area which you would say was had a high crime and gang, um, gang um, and um, gang area, um, drugs and people and stabbed people being shot and stabbed and murdered. i witnessed my first murder at 11 years of age . first murder at 11 years of age. um, and i grew up not knowing that i could achieve anything

better and have anything better than what was in front of me, you know, which a lie. um, you know, which was a lie. um, and believe that children and i believe that the children today are seeing same and today are seeing the same and feeling . um, they don't feeling the same. um, they don't have aspiration or belief have any aspiration or belief that they can achieve what other people can achieve. and that's why they settle in for less . why they settle in for less. >> and you were a gang member for how many years were you in a gang? >> um, from the age of 13, up until the age of until i was 20. >> yeah. and what was it about that gang that at time that gang that you at the time liked part of? why? why liked being a part of? why? why do kids want be part of gangs ? >> ?i >> it 7- >> it was 7_ >> it was my ? >> it was my family. 7 >> it was my family. um, and i felt safe and secure around them, you know . i wasn't. them, you know. i wasn't. i wasn't a victim. i wasn't a target. um, and it made me feel safe and so when you got to 20 and you thought, what happened? i just knew that things had to change, you know, um, i had a son, um. and i just wanted my life to be. i wanted it to be different for him. um, but it didn't happen overnight because obviously, you've got obviously, you've you've got a criminal record, you've got

enemies , you've these things enemies, you've these things that it's hard to get out. there's no help to get out. >> it's difficult to break out. >> it's difficult to break out. >> mean, we're talking today >> i mean, we're talking today about ban on zombie knives, >> i mean, we're talking today abo obviously,n zombie knives, >> i mean, we're talking today abo obviously, even|bie knives, >> i mean, we're talking today abo obviously, even just knives, >> i mean, we're talking today abo obviously, even just knithis but obviously, even just in this very short conversation, such a deep societal issue, it? deep societal issue, isn't it? it's just blade . it's not just about the blade. it's not just about the blade. it's about, know, children it's about, you know, children and do you and children's lives. do you think lot this is about think a lot of this is about making it clear to children , making it clear to children, when they're growing up, that there is another way? there is another path for yeah. how another path for them? yeah. how do you do that? >> um, well, for a start, when i speak to it's about speak to children, it's about especially have especially the ones who have made picking up made that mistake of picking up a yes, you've made a a knife that. yes, you've made a mistake, but you can turn your life around and you can still be successful, and you can still have all things that you have all the things that you dream it just it dream of. you know, it just it doesn't to stop there. doesn't have to stop there. um, but say, about but like i say, it's about raising aspirations from a very young age, it starts young age, and it starts at primary it starts primary school level. it starts within home. it starts within the home. it starts before out of the before they even step out of the house. see anything about house. and see anything about the world. when you go to the the world. so when you go to the schools and you these schools and you give these talks, do you find that some people do? people will do? >> advice and actually >> take the advice and actually change lives around , um,

change their lives around, um, you're obviously doing it from your heart because you've been there. you've seen it. yeah. do you notice a difference once you've once you've been at these schools? >> yeah. we do notice a difference. um but we can't reach everybody. you know? and when i go into a school, i have to go in there with my an open mind and say, i've come for one. you know, i can just help mind and say, i've come for one. you iifow, i can just help mind and say, i've come for one. you iif hi, i can just help mind and say, i've come for one. you iif i can i can just help mind and say, i've come for one. you iif i can just1 just help mind and say, i've come for one. you iif i can just changezlp mind and say, i've come for one. you iif i can just change one one, if i can just change one person's perspective, then then we're to make a change. we're starting to make a change. >> well, mark bracewell , it's >> well, mark bracewell, it's absolutely you absolutely incredible what you do. you much for do. thank you so much for joining us morning. i talk joining us this morning. i talk to morning. really , to you all morning. uh, really, really important topic. thank you so your time. you so much for your time. >> thank you. thanks, man. >> thank you. thanks, man. >> on in program, >> now, later on in the program, we are going to be talking to two apprentice stars. it's something that's got us talking this morning, isn't it's this morning, isn't it? it's lord sugar's about the lord sugar's comments about the tiktok generation . he says tiktok generation. he says they're entitled and they have a lack of drive, a lack of hunger when it comes to the business world. yeah he said that he gets nothing from them but excuses . nothing from them but excuses. >> that's typical, lord sugar.

yeah. let us know what you think of those explosive comments at gbviews@gbnews.com. yes our younger people too addicted to social media to be good in the business world. >> let us know what you think about that as well. joining us to look through the top stories of today. delighted to be of today. we're delighted to be joined our panel morning of today. we're delighted to be j(thei our panel morning of today. we're delighted to be j(the broadcaster,el morning of today. we're delighted to be j(the broadcaster, life morning of today. we're delighted to be j(the broadcaster, life coach'ning . the broadcaster, life coach and author trent and authorjenni trent hughes and authorjenni trent hughes and the political commentator matthew stadlen . and no time matthew stadlen. and no time matthew stadlen. and no time matthew brilliant . matthew brilliant. >> strict instructions from you, ellie. i listen to every word you say . no ellie. i listen to every word you say. no time. >> we had a chat yesterday >> yeah, we had a chat yesterday , but pink socks? >> yeah , i said pink tie. >> yeah, i said pink tie. >> yeah, i said pink tie. >> don't wear a tie. >> don't wear a tie. >> so i'm glad you were listening. i wear but she listening. i wearjeans, but she said to. said i'm not allowed to. >> tie for now. >> so no tie for now. >> under the fashion rules. >> all under the fashion rules. this morning. where this morning. right. where should here i think we should we begin? here i think we should we begin? here i think we should start. let's nice should start. let's start. nice and simple, shall we? with the well, say simple, but it's a well, we say simple, but it's a complex science. think the complex science. i think the perfect it's controversial. >> i think this falls to me. >> i think this falls to me. >> i think it does. >> i think it does. >> and i have to say to start

with that, i don't actually dnnk with that, i don't actually drink might, might drink tea. i might, i might occasionally have ginger and occasionally have a ginger and lemon i don't drink lemon tea, but i don't drink the traditional because traditional tea because i don't really i'm really like milk. however i'm a bit expert because as i do bit of an expert because as i do make tea for my wife . go on make tea for my wife. go on then, i should make it more often listen, it's often than i do. listen, it's really simple. you just put the teabag in and in my case, i put the sugar and the milk in first. now i know this. i know . now i know this. i know. >> no no no no no no no no no no >> n0 [10 [10 [10 [10 [10 [10 [10 [10 [10 [10 >> n0 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 ho >> n0 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 ho >> n0 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 ho >> no no no no no no no no no no no no no no okay. >> but she does she does laura does like the tea i makes. and she is a tea expert. now the reason is because i'm reason i do that is because i'm usually feed the dogs usually trying to feed the dogs at same time, rush around. at the same time, rush around. we've toddler. so forth. >> multitasking husband. forth. >> s01ltitasking husband. forth. >> so you sking husband. forth. >> so you putg husband. forth. >> so you put the|sband. forth. >> so you put the kettle. forth. >> so you put the kettle on while you're putting the kettle on time. you put the on to kill time. you put the other ingredients in first and then the water and then you put the hot water and then you put the hot water and the to get away with the hope to get away with it. but realise is wrong. it but i realise this is wrong. it is. is wrong. is. it is wrong. >> well, but you did you >> well, but you say, did you know you the traditional know that you do the traditional way making tea? know that you do the traditional waybutmaking tea? know that you do the traditional waybut then 1g tea? know that you do the traditional waybut then in tea? know that you do the traditional waybut then in other countries >> but then in other countries they even milk in the they don't even have milk in the tea. mean you could go, tea. so, i mean you could go, this this. england are this goes this. it's england are very their teas and

very adamant on their teas and they're best the they're the best teas in the world, but there are world, i think. but there are many cultures put many cultures that don't put milk don't put milk in it. they don't put anything think anything in it. well, i think one thing this is not one thing and this is not anti—american, but i don't think the americans should lecture us under circumstances how under any circumstances on how to make tea. >> could i ask you a question? >> could i ask you a question? >> it you know me? you >> why is it you know me? you know we have to go off in a slightly different direction. why is it that anything that why why is it that anything that has america, has to do with america, people look me and apologise ? guys, look at me and apologise? guys, i'm. i'm i'm not american. >> i'm not american. >> i'm not american. >> i'm not american. >> i was just saying . generally. >> i was just saying. generally. no, no , you were giving me the no, no, you were giving me the side eye. >> you were giving me the side eye. i lost a job this week because they wanted someone with an american accent. my agent sent it, and the man sent this very letter. is very very stroppy letter. it is very obvious that british. obvious that she's british. don't someone who can don't send me someone who can do an me an american accent. send me someone has one. you know someone who has one. you know i can't win . can't win. >> you should have said, let me make you a cup of tea with salt, and you'll see how exactly i really am. >> lemon, can >> and lemon, can we all find just to agree on?

just one thing to agree on? >> that salt and lemon should be nowhere near a traditional nowhere near near a traditional cup of tea. fine to have lemon and as i said earlier, and ginger as i said earlier, but can't milk then but you can't have milk and then lemon salt. lemon and salt. >> didn't >> i don't think i didn't understand you can do that. understand how you can do that. funny that because we funny you say that because we are going to test drive this a little later little bit later on. >> going to have. yeah oh >> we are going to have. yeah oh 11:00 we're actually going to try tea salt as try a cup of tea with salt as the americans did say, but the americans well did say, but then their comments then retracted their comments a little earlier on week. little bit earlier on this week. what's you? do what's a perfect tea for you? do you tea? yeah like i you drink tea? yeah i like i like like tea, the like tea, i like tea, but the thought salt, it just doesn't thought of salt, it just doesn't make sense. make any sense. >> it's meant counteract the bitterness. >> apparently . >> apparently. >> apparently. >> we'll you. doesn't the >> we'll tell you. doesn't the milk milk. milk and the sugar? the milk. the that. the sugar does that. >> doesn't the lime make >> salt doesn't the lime make the curdle? that's what the milk curdle? that's what i don't i yeah, well don't understand. i yeah, well it should do. >> i'm confused about it should do. >> i'who confused about it should do. >> i'who corwased about it should do. >> i'who corwased goodt this. who said it was a good idea in the first place? can we call was it just call this guy up? was it just one said this? one person that said this? >> to have to look at >> i'm going to have to look at the finer detail. >> i think apparently us >> i think apparently the us embassy has even got involved. i mean, is great. people mean, this is great. people do feel strongly their feel very strongly about their cup don't tea. >> i don't drink tea. >> i don't drink tea. >> you don't tea, do you >> you don't drink tea, do you dnnk >> you don't drink tea, do you drink yeah. would drink coffee? yeah. would you

put in coffee? no. put salt in your coffee? no, no. it doesn't any sense. no, i it doesn't make any sense. no, i wouldn't put i wouldn't put lemon in it either. no lemon, lime lemon lime whatever. tea lemon and honey. then again . honey. and but then again. >> does it come in? i'm >> so where does it come in? i'm really confused. >> tequila. >> tequila. >> well it's lovely, but do you can you tell the difference between a and bad cup? between a good and a bad cup? yeah, absolutely . there's very yeah, absolutely. there's very few people in world can few people in this world who can make cup of tea. some very make me a cup of tea. some very fussy. does your fiance count as one of them? he's very good. yes. my best becky's yes. and my best friend becky's very at making a of very good at making a cup of tea. she's this morning. >> apparently gb news >> and apparently the gb news staff that are give us staff that are going to give us one salt in so one later with salt in it. so i have a tea here because have a free tea here because i don't don't risk the tea. don't i don't risk the tea. >> um, let's. is an >> um, okay. let's. this is an interesting matthew and interesting one. matthew and i both both of us are going to be talking about this though. jurgen as jurgen klopp stepping down as liverpool jurgen klopp stepping down as liv airool jurgen klopp stepping down as liv air yesterday when this news on air yesterday when this news broke matthew wow, wow. broke and matthew went wow, wow. it shock for you it was a real shock for you wasn't it? >> you go on social media >> and if you go on social media or you listen to the radio or watch telly, liverpool watch the telly, liverpool fans are state of are in some sort of state of mourning because this is a man, put simply, turned put it simply, who turned liverpool's around. put it simply, who turned liver|hadn't around. put it simply, who turned liver|hadn't won around. put it simply, who turned

liver|hadn't won aleague for they hadn't won the league for 25 years and that was 25 years or so, and that was from position of having from a position of having won the league year year the league almost year in, year out. a title out. now they are a title winning they win winning team. they may win this yean winning team. they may win this year, fascinating thing year, and the fascinating thing about jurgen klopp, and i'm not about jurgen klopp, and i'm not a fan of his. i'm a total fan of his. i'm definitely not liverpool definitely not a liverpool fan because a bit critical because he can be a bit critical of but interesting of referees, but the interesting thing that he he thing about klopp is that he he basically became unsackable by the a dreadful the club. he had a dreadful season year and what became season last year and what became clear was that they weren't going to of him. now the going to get rid of him. now the fortunes revived they going to get rid of him. now the fortu win revived they going to get rid of him. now the fortu win the revived they going to get rid of him. now the fortu win the leagued they going to get rid of him. now the fortu win the league againthey going to get rid of him. now the fortuwin the league again .1ey going to get rid of him. now the fortuwin the league again . and may win the league again. and he's saying, i of my he's saying, actually i of my own volition, i'm going to stand aside at the end of the season . aside at the end of the season. >> it's such interesting time >> it's such an interesting time , though, isn't it, when we're talking being in the talking about them being in the final cup, final of the carabao cup, they're of the they're at the top of the premier at the moment. premier league at the moment. why now ? is it is it a case of why now? is it is it a case of wanting to go out on a high, or is it is there something else going on here that perhaps we're not aware of? >> think you imagine the >> i think if you imagine the scrutiny being level scrutiny of being a top level premier of premier league manager, of course paid course you're getting paid for that but actually that scrutiny, but it's actually quite that the idea quite tough. and that the idea is last season, they is that last season, when they were really struggling and people like me wondering

people like me were wondering whether be whether he would actually be sacked, lot out of him. sacked, took a lot out of him. in this perfect in a way, this is perfect because the fans because his team and the fans are going to be so far behind him that it may propel them to actually win the league, and that would be the most powerful way to go out. >> i'm going to change the >> well, i'm going to change the subject here. going subject a bit here. we're going back some sort of food and back to some sort of food and dnnk back to some sort of food and drink going drink thing here, and i'm going to you, jenny, because to come to you, jenny, because you said that obviously anything american, you. i'm american, they come to you. i'm coming something coming to you with something very now full very english. mhm. now full engush very english. mhm. now full english pineapple . english without pineapple. >> with pineapple, with pineapple. >> with pineapple. yeah. no it's pizza that you should have without pineapple. that's another story. we'll talk about that time. are your that another time. what are your thoughts on that with pineapple adding a full english. thoughts on that with pineapple achbsolutelya full english. thoughts on that with pineapple achbsolutely revolting.lish. thoughts on that with pineapple achbsolutely revolting. i;h. >> absolutely revolting. i i cannot think of anything . i cannot think of anything. i married somebody from northern ireland and so i actually was first introduced to you have an ulster fry . yes. i started on an ulster fry. yes. i started on an ulster fry. yes. i started on an ulster fry. yes. i started on an ulster fry first, then a british fry. the idea of putting pineapple in that is absolutely

disgusting cooked, which they do i know. >> okay, so here's the thing . pineapple. >> here's the thing. i grew up in jamaica and what a lot of people don't understand. a lot of people think pineapples come from hawaii. they don't. they actually went from jamaica to hawaii . we use pineapple all the hawaii. we use pineapple all the time in all sorts of things. we tend not to cook it only at christmas on top of ham and the idea of eating it with eggs and beans and mushrooms is i mean, it's an odd fruit because it doesn't look like an apple at all, and it's got the word in it. >> i've never understood that. do you know what i mean? there's certain. well you see very, very good facebook >> because we're not facebook friends. we because friends. we should be because i put something the other day, put up something the other day, which was of 20 which was a list of 20 countries, and what they call pineapple and you will not be surprised to know that england is the only country that calls it pineapple everywhere else. it's a it's a version of. yeah, every other country. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> from from time to time as a

treat. i might have a, a full engush treat. i might have a, a full english actually. sometimes i just order an english breakfast and then the waiter or wherever i at a cafe will mistake it i am at a cafe will mistake it for breakfast tea. for an english breakfast tea. and that's a disaster because, as we've established, but as we've established, drink. but tomatoes already obviously tomatoes are already obviously a staple of the fry up. are staple part of the fry up. are they part of the ulster fry stir fry? yeah, they are fruits right ? i mean, you think i might one might think a tomato might think of a tomato vegetable with this fruit. so there is already precedent . there is already a precedent. but i'm with you, the but the idea i'm with you, the idea putting pineapple cooked idea of putting pineapple cooked or near the gb or uncooked anywhere near the gb production team are very good, right? i think they would struggle to find someone to come on and defend the idea of pineapple, because it's the only thing that doesn't thing on that play that doesn't require . require salt. >> think about it, you >> if you think about it, you wouldn't salt in the wouldn't put salt in the pineapple, but you'd on pineapple, but you'd put it on the everything anyway. >> could go forever. or >> this could go on forever. or pepper or pepper. pepper in an attempt and attempt to defend it. and i'm not going to. but the english breakfast society says the breakfast society says that the exotic a long history breakfast society says that the excour a long history breakfast society says that the excour morninga long history breakfast society says that the excour morning plates. 1istory on our morning plates. apparently it's very fashionable. uh, once upon a time, i think it was in the

tudor ages, actually, to walk around pineapple when it around with a pineapple when it was accessory. so was like an accessory. yeah. so to it on your breakfast to then put it on your breakfast plate and eat it showed that you were yeah, well, were of high wealth. yeah, well, peter, greece peter, in greece and greece and your cypriot. peter, in greece and greece and youyes.)riot. peter, in greece and greece and youyes.)rio sort of cypriot >> yes. by sort of cypriot parentage like there's fruit is a big part of greek a big part of the greek breakfast, but you're not mixing it up with cooked baked beans . it up with cooked baked beans. >> absolutely. it's like putting saltyeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> sure we're all >> not sure we're all going to be trying that later on. >> miss that. and do >> so don't miss that. and do let know you make of let us know what you make of pineapple on on english pineapple on on a full english and matthew right. and matthew you were right. actually it's meant be in actually it's meant to be in place tomatoes or mushrooms. place of tomatoes or mushrooms. let if you think that's let us know if you think that's going to catch on. we're not sure about that where. but don't go anywhere because there's lots more going be more to come. we're going to be looking powerful and looking at the powerful and impactful music video that our very raising very own pete has been raising awareness mental health. it awareness for mental health. it is incredible. it actually gave me watching it. so is incredible. it actually gave me definitely watching it. so is incredible. it actually gave me definitely wantitching it. so is incredible. it actually gave me definitely want toring it. so is incredible. it actually gave me definitely want to watch so you definitely want to watch that. saturday that. this is saturday morning live news, britain's news live on gb news, britain's news channel. 2024, a battleground

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that i knew had dewbs& co week nights from six. >> welcome back to saturday morning live. the time is 10:26 loads of emails in from you already. thank you so much for your company. let's talk about tea, shall we? >> i mean, there's a huge debate here because first of all, i'm going to go to virginia here. who says it's only a small pinch of salt, not a spoonful. get the facts right, please. i understand, and there's going to be here, be some defensiveness here, because you're because if you're if you're doing think doing this, i still think a small pinch of salt just. yeah and what's a pinch. >> we're going to be trying this at about just after 11:00. we'll let you know what we have just joined us. it's from think it joined us. it's from i think it was an american who was an american scientist who suggested tiny suggested that putting a tiny pinch your pinch of salt in your tea counteracts the bitterness, and they the perfect they think it makes the perfect cup tea. cup of tea. >> cup of tea. » m cup of tea. >> be right. >> they might be right. >> they might be right. >> lot of brits >> it's upset a lot of brits out. so that's what we've been talking about this morning. uh,

john to be made john says tea needs to be made in a teapot. never you're in a teapot. you never you're never a good cup of never going to get a good cup of tea in a cup. and needs tea in a cup. and it needs to be left to brew for five minutes. john, in your camp. it's john, i'm in your camp. it's a 3 to 4 minute in a teapot. to 4 minute brew in a teapot. that's what the that's what makes the best. >> unless heat the cup, >> unless you heat up the cup, you up the cup and put you heat up the cup and you put boiling water in it. let it settle for couple minutes. settle for a couple of minutes. anyway we're going try >> and then we're going to try this then the bag this out in, then put the bag in. yeah. no no no i'm not sure about that at all. uh, graham is about that at all. uh, graham is a he uses milk in his a vegan. he uses oat milk in his tea. better than milk. tea. it's better than milk. >> okay, let's go to knife crime quickly. just as quickly. um, julian, just as there carrying there is a total ban on carrying guns the the same should guns in the uk, the same should apply all knives. total ban apply to all knives. total ban on yeah. do keep your views >> yeah. do keep your views coming in any of the stories coming in on any of the stories that talking this that we are talking about this morning. to morning. and you're going to have a view on this one as well, because this week, very own because this week, our very own peter done peter andre has done some amazing you always peter andre has done some amébut| you always peter andre has done some amé but you've you always peter andre has done some amébut you've had you always peter andre has done some amé but you've had y(very nays do? but you've had a very special out this special project come out this week. of a really week. he's been part of a really powerful music video for british pianist, composer and filmmaker fabio d'andrea to raise awareness for mental health, teen bullying and suicide. it's

a new song , teen bullying and suicide. it's a new song, it's teen bullying and suicide. it's a new song , it's called another a new song, it's called another way and it highlights the very real problems that millions of people and families face every single day. now, you might have seen pete and fabio earlier on this week on britain's newsroom , this week on britain's newsroom, but if you haven't, let's take a look again for people, for people listening on the radio here, we've got some visions here of the video clip. >> there's actually some very hard hitting footage that we can't show on tv, but we do encourage , i encourage all to encourage, i encourage all to parents watch this. if you can, on and you're seeing the effects of bullying and how sometimes parents aren't paying attention. and when the kids are crying out for help and we're not really

listening mm. the video listening. mm. um, and the video is incredibly powerful, incredibly is incredibly powerful, inc|so blythis video, if you are >> so in this video, if you are listening on the radio, you would seen pete there would have seen pete there playing dad music playing the dad in this music video of this son who was very sadly taken his life. and pete is crying in the start of is really crying in the start of this music video, think really this music video, i think really demonstrate how this demonstrate how much this impacts whole family. impacts the whole family. teenage suicide. and pete, for me, that's one of the things that was the most striking about this music video is i've never seen you look sad and you just looked so broken. i mean, obviously fantastic obviously you're a fantastic actor, look broken. actor, but you look so broken. where that from? where did you get that from? well well. >> and i'm going to come to fabio minute. directed fabio in a minute. who directed this? wrote piece this? who wrote the piece of music which stunning when music which is stunning when i first went in to do the scene and first scene set and i saw the first scene set out, i won't describe it, but it was not pleasant. no, i thought i could be looking at my son or my nephew. i mean, it literally was like looking at him. josh, the who josh the guy who played josh christos, is a greek kid and he literally could have been related me . uh, emotions related to me. uh, the emotions were instantly because if

were there instantly because if you see a parent, it's you ever see as a parent, it's your worst fear to ever see your child go through anything like this. and it was so powerful that i said to fabio, please start immediately start filming immediately because came to you that quickly. >> yeah , because it wasn't. >> yeah, because it wasn't. >> yeah, because it wasn't. >> there was no to , to, you >> there was no time to, to, you know, to get those know, to sort of get those emotions up. was there. um, emotions up. it was there. um, and fabio is here and really and fabio is here and i really he's the one that really should explain this story. he's unbelievable. >> fabio, really was the most >> fabio, it really was the most incredible . really. incredible music video. really. it gave me goosebumps. it really, really did. i don't think we've seen anything really, really did. i don't think we'before. seen anything really, really did. i don't think we'before. seen adid1ing really, really did. i don't think we'before. seen adid the like that before. where did the idea come from for you? well, with my music videos, um, they're set to my piano pieces and because there's no lyrics i can write about what i want to. >> and, um, this is part of my new which is the new album, 24, which is the first classical visual first ever classical visual album. to direct and album. but i get to direct and write my own music videos and set them to my music. so i like to tackle issues that i think society needs to address and in particular with this one, i my team and i have been working on this for a long time, for probably about a year. and a

half, actually two years. and i just think there's a need just think there's such a need right now. like right now. i feel like we're going a cyberbullying going through a cyberbullying pandemic and it's the pandemic. yeah. and it's the knock on effects. and i really wanted to show the effects of, um, what can happen to a family, but also bring in hope. so all of my videos end with hope. and i think that's actually a key message that goes through all my films. even with this video films. so even with this video in have scene in particular, we have a scene and about a young boy and a story about a young boy who does take his life, but who does take his own life, but then he goes straight back to then he goes straight back to the actually shows the start and it actually shows what didn't die. what happens if he didn't die. and positive what happens if he didn't die. and and positive what happens if he didn't die. and and what positive what happens if he didn't die. and and what can tive what happens if he didn't die. and and what can happen. effects and what can happen. he's with he's still struggling with trauma. are still trauma. his family are still struggling of struggling with the effects of bullying, there's hope in bullying, but there's hope in that message. that's that message. so that's what pete really wanted pete and i really wanted to do with video and show with with this video and show everybody there who's everybody out there who's struggling issues struggling with these issues and families affected, that families that are affected, that there's out there. families that are affected, that the yeah. out there. families that are affected, that the yeah. you>ut there. families that are affected, that the yeah. you didthere. families that are affected, that the yeah. you did thee. families that are affected, that the yeah. you did the video >> yeah. you did the video before , uh, mel and that before, uh, with mel b and that was about domestic abuse. and that that was worldwide , uh, that was that was worldwide, uh, a huge worldwide success. i remember it being on the cover of some of the american papers,

um, very effective , very um, very effective, very effective. this subject, of course , very close me. um, course, very close to me. um, and working with you was phenomenal because i don't think i've ever seen anything like this it of crosses this where it sort of crosses the music videos the line between music videos and acting, there are no and acting, because there are no lyrics in it. >> what i was most struck >> that's what i was most struck by. is the by. no singing. so it is the music so powerful. music which is so powerful. anyway classical music has that, doesn't it? where it really does hit right in the hit you, you know, right in the heart. but then you've got the acting such deep acting about such a deep personal issue that relates to so people . mean, it's so many people. i mean, it's been viewed, million been viewed, what, 2 million times already? >> nearly two. and half. times already? >> wow. nearly two. and half. times already? >> wow. yeah.( two. and half. times already? >> wow. yeah. and». and half. times already? >> wow. yeah. and that's half. times already? >> wow. yeah. and that's just lf. times already? >> wow. yeah. and that's just on instagram. >> imagine what you know, once we start promoting and we start promoting this and really there. really pushing it out there. yeah. aim. what is our aim? yeah. our aim. what is our aim? fabio i know what it is. >> but you tell you tell everyone. i mean, we've been i think we've both been very humbled overwhelming humbled from the overwhelming response watching response from people watching this video. and there's just been to get this been a massive call to get this into and i know peter into schools. and i know peter and i just want to get every me, every teenager and every parent of teenagers just to watch this so they can start to open up. the message about this video is

that people should talk, that we should encourage family conversations. really for us, conversations. so really for us, it's about getting it into schools. >> this absolutely, i think needs to be shown in all schools up and down the country for parents and grandparents who are watching today. i want to show their their kids and grandkids this video. where can they find it? >> so they can to youtube and >> so they can go to youtube and they'll it on youtube they'll find it on my youtube channel. but they go into channel. but if they go into youtube put another if youtube and put another way, if even peter andre, youtube and put another way, if even d'andrea peter andre, youtube and put another way, if even d'andrea anotherindre, youtube and put another way, if even d'andrea another way,. fabio d'andrea another way, they'll video , um, on they'll find the video, um, on peter i, my instagram peter and i, my instagram accounts, it's got a shorter version, it has a short version and then we're going to push it out onto other platforms too. >> and both of you working >> and for both of you working on project, i mean, on this project, i mean, obviously if you watch the video, what i video, you'll understand what i mean. really heavy, mean. but it's really heavy, isn't it, that the issue and the topic that we obviously topic that we are obviously talking what was that talking about, what was that like working on working like working on set and working together on something that's heavy it's personal? heavy and it's personal? >> i think we need to address these gritty way and these things in a gritty way and a . um, actually a real way. um, i actually really this generation really feel for this generation of i think of gen z because i think actually the other generations

that have come before , and i'm that have come before, and i'm definitely a millennial, we've really not in a really set them up. not in a good . and, their good way. and, um, their searching for truth and we can't pander to something . and we've pander to something. and we've got to give them truth. so for me, these videos have got to be gritty . we've got to speak about gritty. we've got to speak about reality because this is the reality because this is the reality many kids face in their lives. so i just think , you lives. so i just think, you know, we've got to we've got to use our art to make a difference. and as a composer, lots of i follow a long line of history of composers in the past from beethoven, bach, mozart. they spoke about social issues in their music and that's something we've sort of lost. the art of doing right now in the 21st century. and so my ethos is about making classical music accessible to everybody. but by using classical but i feel by using classical music to address these issues, we can really touch many people . we can really touch many people. >> yeah, you an amazing >> yeah, you do an amazing fabio. are. fabio. you really are. >> absolutely achieved >> you've absolutely achieved that. thank you so much. thank you. fabio d'andrea , a really you. fabio d'andrea, a really good you morning. good to see you this morning. and as well. good to see you this morning. ancum, as well.

good to see you this morning. ancum, but as well. good to see you this morning. ancum, but the as well. good to see you this morning. ancum, but the main as well. good to see you this morning. ancum, but the main as we l. >> um, but the main thing we want that, you know, want to say is that, you know, if you need any support, call the samaritans on 116123 or email joe at samaritans .org. yeah. >> thank you. so much fabio. and don't go anywhere . we're going don't go anywhere. we're going to be celebrating the amazing work of our greatest briton and the incredible work that he does with mountain rescue teams. you don't want to miss that. this is saturday morning live on gb news, britain's channel .

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leslie says, though when she was younger, in my 20s, i used to sprinkle white pepper on my tea. it was delicious. do you know what you know what though? >> it is true because cathy here is saying in cyprus we had cinnamon sticks and cloves to our tea pots, and we have it with milk because it just comforts flavour. guess comforts the flavour. so i guess actually i should take it back where you shouldn't where i said you shouldn't put salt maybe you should. >> so would you have cinnamon sticks and cloves? we do do that. >> e- e am i e— e am i different to >> so how am i different to someone putting in someone else putting salt in their tea? someone else putting salt in the andi? someone else putting salt in the and does it taste >> and does it taste nice? >> and does it taste nice? >> oh, tastes i need to >> oh, it tastes oh, i need to i need to give that a go. >> beautiful. and loads on >> beautiful. um, and loads on knife as well. i'm just knife crime as well. i'm just going one from going to share this one from margaret, who says there needs to and search operations to be stop and search operations in all of places where in all of these places where knife an issue. also, knife crime is an issue. also, there to be clubs there needs to be more clubs and social these people social events for these people carrying be a carrying knives. it will be a big deterrent. do keep those views any of the views coming in on any of the stories we are talking stories that we are talking about. a about. this morning. now, a 20 year old woman. this is year old british woman. this is a story, has died a horrendous story, has died after loss after undergoing weight loss surgery morgan surgery in turkey. morgan ribeiro her home ribeiro travelled from her home in south london to turkey for a

£2,500 gastric sleeve operation earlier this month, with her boyfriend. now, she said she had researched her options thoroughly because she did not want to spend years on the nhs waiting list . waiting list. >> yes, but after being given the green light to fly home three days after the procedure , three days after the procedure, morgan fell seriously during morgan fell seriously ill during the flight back to gatwick airport, forcing the plane to make an emergency landing in serbia, was rushed to hospital. >> well, morgan had gone into septic shock and doctors then discovered that her small intestine had been cut during the gastric sleeve procedure , the gastric sleeve procedure, which then led to an infection . which then led to an infection. she later suffered a heart attack and was put in an induced coma and she died four days later . later. >> um, it's absolutely terrible. we're joined by cosmetic cosmetic surgeon and vice president of the british association of aesthetic plastic surgeons , nora nugent. nora this surgeons, nora nugent. nora this is such a horrible story. why are young people going abroad for surgery ? for surgery? >> it is a very tragic story , >> it is a very tragic story, and i think the overwhelming

driving factor for travelling for surgery is price , for surgery is price, fortunately. but there's so much more to consider. there is also the surgical safety and the extra risk that comes with travelling a distance for a medical procedure. and unfortunately this has happened in this case, there must be dangers associated with flying after such invasive surgery and being given the all clear three days later to get on a long haul flight. >> i mean, that doesn't seem safe at all. >> yes, there are two inherent risks with this. the first is flying itself increases the risk of clots in the leg that can travel too long to the lungs, and general anaesthetic surgery also increases the risk . so also increases the risk. so ideally the two should not be close together, particularly if it's a long haul flight. the second risk is that you are leaving the country where you had your procedure quite early after having surgery, so the opportunities to avail of proper

follow up and aftercare are very limited. if you're in a different country only a few days after surgery , you are days after surgery, you are still at a very, very early stage in recovery. and that's the period where some of the most acute and in this situation , catastrophic complications can occur. occui'. >> occur. >> um, and it's happening more and more. so if somebody is desperate to have some sort of surgery, but they can't afford the prices in the uk, they don't want to wait on the nhs for a long time. what what do they feel their other options are? if they say they've researched it? i just find it baffling that you would just take that risk and go somewhere not knowing what you're dealing with and not being the place where you can you're dealing with and not beirit the place where you can you're dealing with and not beirit corrected. ce where you can you're dealing with and not beirit corrected. but/here you can you're dealing with and not beirit corrected. but why you can you're dealing with and not beirit corrected. but why ?ou can you're dealing with and not beirit corrected. but why ? whyan get it corrected. but why? why do you think this is happening? more and more. more and more and more. >> um, i think it's >> so, um, i think it's multifactorial price is a driver because there are higher costs in the uk due to higher cost of living, higher insurance costs and significant regulatory costs . and these are much, much lower in other countries. the

requirements are not the same. and these procedures, when done safely and correctly, can bring enormous benefit . so i really do enormous benefit. so i really do understand why people want either cosmetic procedures or weight loss procedures. they often have multiple benefits as well. so it isn't purely vanity by procedure. there are physical and health benefits too, and the problem is that when someone cannot get them , cannot afford cannot get them, cannot afford the uk prices and something is not readily available or only available in a very limited way in the nhs, then people will seek other measures and there are things you can do to research surgery abroad, but you still take on a risk when you travel for surgery that no matter how much research you do , matter how much research you do, you cannot make eliminate the risk of travel. it's just such a desperately sad story, isn't it? >> just 20 years old? nora nugent, really good to see you. this morning. she's a cosmetic surgeon and vice president of

the british association of aesthetic plastic surgeons. thank you very much . thank you. thank you very much. thank you. now, the king is doing well after undergoing a procedure for an enlarged prostate and has spent the night in hospital. >> yes . king spent the night in hospital. >> yes. king charles was spent the night in hospital. >> yes . king charles was spotted >> yes. king charles was spotted entering the london clinic on friday morning with the queen at his same hospital his side. the same hospital where princess of wales is where the princess of wales is being cared for following abdominal . so who better abdominal surgery. so who better to join us now and discuss this and all other royal news for the week is our royal correspondent. of course, my very good friend of the show as well, jennie bond. how are you ? bond. how are you? >> i'm all right. thanks pete. yeah, it's a lovely day here. the sun is shining on the sea. >> love now, good >> love that. now, also good news that king charles is news is that king charles is doing well . is that right? yeah. doing well. is that right? yeah. >> we're told he's doing well. yeah, they've been very open about time, which about things this time, which is most into most unusual when royals go into hospital is usually shrouded in secrecy. gosh, i remember, you know, when the queen mother, for example, was in hospital and had had hip operation was very had her hip operation was very nearly the door before we nearly out of the door before we knew anything it. so this

knew anything about it. so this has very has been very different, very open. king has open. and the king has deliberately his prostate deliberately made his prostate problem public, hoping that other men will go and get checked up. and, you know, the figures show the nhs website shows that there has been a surge of going. so he surge of people going. so he had his procedure yesterday . today his procedure yesterday. today we told it went well . he's been we told it went well. he's been overnight hospital . he may overnight in hospital. he may come out today. overnight in hospital. he may come out today . um, or he may come out today. um, or he may need to stay a little bit longer. it depends . um, not to longer. it depends. um, not to be indelicate whether whether things are working okay right now . so once things are working okay right now. so once things things are working okay right now . so once things start now. so once things start working , he'll go home and the working, he'll go home and the princess of wales is in the same hospital. >> and she's still in which i. i was a bit surprised at. i mean, how is she doing ? how is she doing? >> well , how is she doing? >> well, we're told that how is she doing? >> well , we're told that she too >> well, we're told that she too has had success with abdominal surgery, but this is much more concerning in that it must have been something very serious. i've been quite pleased that we, the media, have been enormously respectful about catherine's wish to keep this private.

everyone has the right to keep their their medical history and difficulties private . that's difficulties private. that's what she asked for. and that is what she asked for. and that is what she's got. people are not camping outside the hospital. we don't what what problem don't know what what the problem is. we may never know what the problem is, but doesn't want us to know but she's had to know that. but she's had a visit . mean, yesterday she she visit. i mean, yesterday she she was by the king and was visited by the king and camilla. um before he in camilla. um before he went in for his operation, which , again, for his operation, which, again, is really unusual in royal circles you they're circles and shows you they're just normal. really? just being normal. really? >> i thought that was >> yeah. i thought that was really heartwarming, actually, that king, before in that the king, before going in for operation, went in for his own operation, went in to catherine, the princess to see catherine, the princess of wales. thought a of wales. i thought that was a really lovely thing, actually, to jennie bond to see him do jennie bond really good you morning. good to see you this morning. thank much as always. thank you very much as always. as yeah. thanks now, on this >> yeah. thanks now, on this show, all about spreading show, we're all about spreading the of people who show, we're all about spreading the amazing people who show, we're all about spreading the amazing things. people who show, we're all about spreading the amazing things. and ople who do amazing things. and this week's greatest briton is michael jeffery. >> drumroll. yeah yeah. >> drumroll. yeah yeah. >> after 12. yeah. after 12 years serving in the army with the regiment, the royal green jackets now renamed the rifles. mike jeffrey has turned his

efforts into volunteering. and what an incredible job he does. >> yes. over the last 14 years, mike has volunteered for the western beacons mountain rescue team, covering the largest areas in south wales. he's been a crucial member of the organisation , which can be organisation, which can be called out several times a week by the emergency services and is a 24 seven responsibility. he sounds amazing. yeah >> we're delighted to be joined by mike jeffrey. now welcome and congratulate us on your british citizenship award. absolutely incredible. so you are a top british citizen and this is in part down to the incredible work that you do. tell us a bit more. >> yeah. first of all, thanks for inviting me on the show. it's great. um, yeah. so it came as a surprise to me that i was that i'd been nominated, um, for the citizens award. and the british citizens award. and then before christmas, then just before christmas, i received a letter from the british award saying british citizens award saying i'd been successful, it i'd been successful, and it ianed i'd been successful, and it invited westminster palace in invited to westminster palace in the 18th of january to receive the 18th of january to receive the medal. so, yeah, cambridge

came as a shock. >> and i mean , just when i was >> and i mean, just when i was saying there, it's 24 over seven, it, it over seven, is it, is it 24 over seven? i mean, are you just literally call ? you're literally be on call? you're doing things. have you been called in the middle of the night? what, what? tell us more about night? what, what? tell us more aboabsolutely. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> mean, um, we all have day >> i mean, um, we all have day jobs. um, and we all work. >> i mean, um, we all have day jobs. um, and we all work . um, jobs. um, and we all work. um, so calls come at any time of day when, when, when we're needed. um, and large, we're called um, by and large, we're called out by the police . um, sometimes out by the police. um, sometimes the ambulance service and sometimes the fire brigade as well. can well. fire service. um, it can come at time . and sometimes come at any time. and sometimes we get one call after another . we get one call after another. um, and we go out and we'll respond to it and we try to fit that in around work, which is not always easy. and family life . um, and i think we have to give big off to our give a big hats off to our partners leave behind, partners that we leave behind, because could be in because we could be in the middle doing family, um, middle of doing some family, um, activity, and we just drop everything to respond activity, and we just drop evthe hing to respond activity, and we just drop ev the call to respond activity, and we just drop evthe call out, to respond activity, and we just drop evthe call out, and:o respond activity, and we just drop evthe call out, and who ;pond activity, and we just drop evthe call out, and who are d to the call out, so and who are you responding to? >> is it that often needs >> who is it that often needs your help? >> quite often , um, people would >> quite often, um, people would be lost. we cover the western

area of the brecon beacons . um, area of the brecon beacons. um, they maybe they've been mislocated. they don't know where they are. so we would go out and search for them. and people. get injured. um, people. people get injured. um, quite a i mean, nobody he quite a lot. i mean, nobody he goes walk the dog the goes out to walk the dog in the morning thinking by the afternoon , um, they're going to afternoon, um, they're going to be calling mountain rescue because had an accident because they've had an accident and fortunately that does because they've had an accident and fortlandely that does because they've had an accident and fortland we :hat does because they've had an accident and fortland we respond; that. happen. and we respond to that. and obviously help them as as needed. >> i mean, it's an incredibly selfless thing to do when you signed up for it, so to speak. did you think it was going to be as full on it was? are you as full on as it was? are you happyifs as full on as it was? are you happy it's like that, or do you wish was a little bit less wish it was a little bit less demanding? it it can take demanding? it it it can take over your life . over your life. >> um, but it is a demanding, um, volunteer role, um, that needs time putting into it. we wouldn't send our guys out on the hill unless they were trained and equipped properly , trained and equipped properly, and that takes time. and we have to continue that training throughout year. our throughout the year. our mountain team are out mountain rescue team are out today training, and i'll be

joining tomorrow for joining them tomorrow for training. so well. so we do training. so as well. so we do a lot of that. um, so yeah, i mean it is full on, but it's very rewarding to the guys that we work with. uh the best bunch of guys. and male and female that we could possibly hope to work with. and they they're just great. >> so, mike, you're a veteran . >> so, mike, you're a veteran. when you served in the royal green jackets, you're now in the western beacons mountain rescue team . how did you find that team. how did you find that transition ? and do you think, if transition? and do you think, if anything, your background has has you now in your in has helped you now in your in your rescue operations and keeping calm, that kind of thing? yeah , in part, i'd say, >> um, yeah, in part, i'd say, um, left the army, um, when i first left the army, i relocated to tenerife and belize scuba diving. belize teaching scuba diving. >> so i didn't come straight into mountain rescue . um, and into mountain rescue. um, and then when we came back to the uk, um, there was something missing. i felt that i wanted to go back out and do something for the community and people as well. so um, mountain rescue was an obvious choice for me. um, and when i joined, i found

there's lots of other veterans in there as well that had probably joined for the same reason as i had. and it's good we are the camaraderie amongst the to none. the team is second to none. >> there must be a sense >> i bet there must be a sense in you and your colleagues of just wanting to help others, because doing just wanting to help others, be both. doing just wanting to help others, belboth doing just wanting to help others, belboth those doing just wanting to help others, belboth those roles, doing just wanting to help others, belboth those roles, aren't doing just wanting to help others, belboth those roles, aren't you? >> both those roles, aren't you? >> both those roles, aren't you? >> yes . a lot of the people that >> yes. a lot of the people that we have in the team, the team members are health care professionals, nurses, professionals, doctors, nurses, paramedics so that's paramedics and so on. so that's that's day but all that's in their day job. but all of there for the same of us are there for the same reason. to give reason. we want to give something help, help people. >> right. give us like >> all right. so give us like one of your most memorable things happened, things that have have happened, whether bad . uh, on whether it's good or bad. uh, on this job, um, one of the one thing that sticks in my mind that that i'll never forget, um, was, um , i'd only been in a team was, um, i'd only been in a team for years , and there was a call for years, and there was a call out in in north wales , uh, for a out in in north wales, uh, for a young, young girl, april jones, that went missing . that went missing. >> it was the biggest search this country has ever seen. um, and it was , um, something that and it was, um, something that will stick in my mind for the for the rest of my life .

for the rest of my life. >> yeah. well, mike, jeffrey really to see you this really good to see you this morning. thank you much for morning. thank you so much for sharing story with and sharing your story with us. and congratulations your congratulations again for your british award . really british citizen award. really good to see you. >> this very well deserved, very much an inspiration to us all. >> week's greatest >> here's this week's greatest britain. you a round britain. we'll give you a round of applause. that's that's our award here. and award to you from us here. and do keep your views coming in. of course to have course you're going to have lots to about jeffrey. he's to say about mike jeffrey. he's incredible loads incredible, isn't he? but loads of getting in touch today. of you getting in touch today. we've talking knife we've been talking about knife crime. knives. crime. the ban of zombie knives. is to go, steve is that the way to go, steve says they're carrying a zombie knife to defend themselves. are you a laugh? to you having a laugh? i'm going to carry for defence. where carry a gun for defence. where will this stick? long thick end. >> and duncan says, for god's sake, we can't ban everything that the odd mindless person uses as weapon . we need to uses as a weapon. we need to address the mentality of this culture, tool they culture, not the tool they choose on the day. very interesting views thank interesting views guys. thank you very, much. you very, very much. >> really interesting. and virginia this all comes virginia says this all comes back to parents not caring whether or whether their children are or who they're mixing poverty whether their children are or who nothing mixing poverty whether their children are or who nothing to xing poverty whether their children are or who nothing to do; poverty whether their children are or

who nothing to do with poverty whether their children are or who nothing to do with this. lerty whether their children are or who nothing to do with this. we/ has nothing to do with this. we have mining estates and miners children with a strict upbringing . none of this upbringing. none of this happened to liberal happened then. we are to liberal with discipline today. are we too liberal? do let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com we've got lots more to come, including section including our showbiz section and apprentice stars to and two apprentice stars to debate lord alan sugar's explosive comments about the tiktok generation . this is tiktok generation. this is saturday morning live on gb news >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of whether on gb news . whether on gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast i'm craig snell. well looking ahead to the rest of this weekend for many areas in the nonh weekend for many areas in the north it's going to be fairly unsettled. but in the south it looks like it's going to be a fairly dry one. and that's all down to this area of high pressure, which will keep things settled further settled in the south. further north, will come north, weather fronts will come in times, bringing in some in at times, bringing in some areas this afternoon areas of rain. so this afternoon the confined the rain generally confined across very far of across the very far north of scotland, elsewhere fairly dry. best of the brightness down

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morning . morning. >> and got an action >> and we have got an action packed for you. packed hour for you. >> as this week , the >> yes. as this week, the government crackdown on knife crime , banning the ownership crime, banning the ownership and sale zombie knives and sale of zombie knives and machetes . earlier, we spoke to machetes. earlier, we spoke to a former gang member to get his views. and whether this is the right answer, we'll be taking it to our panel very soon. >> well, no one is a fan of this cold weather and it's returning next week. i'm afraid to say, but especially not a fan, but millions of people who struggle with a condition called raynaud's. we're going to be joined by a sufferer of the condition to hear about her experiences. it looks really painful. >> it is. it is and is 80 years old too old to become a dad. uh, maybe not if you're robert de niro , our showbiz star. niro, our showbiz star. stephanie takyi will be joining us to unpick this and all the oscar nominations that are coming up. >> brilliant . >> brilliant. >> brilliant. >> and we're going to be joined by last year's apprentice winner and another former apprentice contestant to unpick and debate lord alan sugar's comments this

week on the lazier ness of the tiktok generation . you will have tiktok generation. you will have an opinion on that one. we have been absolutely unindicted inundated with emails this morning . keep them coming in gbviews@gbnews.com. >> we love it. but before we do anything else, the awesome ray addison has all your news headunes. headlines. >> someone's getting carried away. good morning. 11:01, i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories. the king has begun his second day in hospital after undergoing a procedure for an enlarged prostate . but an enlarged prostate. but buckingham palace says that king charles stayed overnight at the london clinic, where he's said to be doing well. it's the same hospital where the princess of wales is being cared for, following abdominal surgery. charles's former butler , grant charles's former butler, grant harrold, told gb news the british public's response to the

royal health scares shows how much they still care. >> people always said he was a centric. he was old fashioned, out of touch. never saw that out of touch. i never saw that when i worked for him and i think that's what the public are getting that's why getting to see and that's why there's the there's this affection. so the fact that is having this fact that he is having this procedure, obviously the public want let them know want to kind of let them know that they're thinking of them. and the same with princess of wales. there's been wales. i understand there's been many, many, many letters and cards her wishing her cards sent to her wishing her the of health. the best of health. >> donald trump says he'll appeal a verdict, ordering him to pay £65.5 million for defaming the writer . e jean defaming the writer. e jean carroll. now a warning for those of you watching on television, the following footage contains flashing images. miss carol says that the former president destroyed her reputation by repeatedly denying that he had sexually abused her. that's despite being found liable in an earlier hearing, posting on social media, trump claimed that the us legal system was being used as a political weapon . used as a political weapon. eisgruber is professor of law at the university of colorado . she

the university of colorado. she says the verdict is a victory for women in this case, he not only trashed the victim, but he trashed the victim through saying things that were demonstrably false and that a jury demonstrably false and that a jury had rejected. >> so i think this is showing victims that they can have their day in court , even against the day in court, even against the strong opponent . strong opponent. >> the ministry of defence will neither confirm nor deny plans for the uk to house us nuclear weapons . pentagon documents seen weapons. pentagon documents seen by the telegraph show that procurement contracts reportedly detailing how raf lakenheath in suffolk will house the nuclear warheads. it follows warnings from a senior nato official that countries should ready for war with moscow within the next 20 years. a spokesperson for the ministry of defence said it remains a long standing uk and nato policy to neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons at a given location . uk weapons at a given location. uk intelligence services are not

equipped to handle covert threats from china. that's the warning from former m16 deputy head nigel inkster. warning from former m16 deputy head nigel inkster . speaking to head nigel inkster. speaking to the i newspaper , he said the the i newspaper, he said the problem includes m15, m16 and gchq. problem includes m15, m16 and gchq . mr inkster identified key gchq. mr inkster identified key deficiencies including language , deficiencies including language, expertise and historical and cultural awareness. he also said that beijing is operating, quote, industrial scale cyber espionage operations against western countries . the holocaust western countries. the holocaust educational trust says this year's holocaust memorial day will be difficult due to the ongoing hamas—israel conflict. well known landmarks will be lit up in purple across the uk later . to mark the occasion, chief exec karen pollock said the huge increase in anti—semitism since the october 7th attacks means that the jewish community will mark the occasion with heavier hearts. members of the public are being encouraged to light a candle and place it in the

window to remember those murdered due persecution over murdered due to persecution over their identity . this is gb news their identity. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's get back to ellie and peter. thank you ray. >> loads of you are getting in touch this morning on pineapple on full english breakfast. we're talking about that earlier with our this the english our panel. this from the english breakfast society, which suggesting forgo suggesting that we should forgo tomatoes and have pineapple tomatoes and have a pineapple instead. keith's made the point saying he had a mixed grill yesterday and he had egg, pineapple and pineapple and gammon. and he says very nicely with says it goes very nicely with gammon, which is essentially bacon. that's a good point. >> you do that burgers as >> you do that in burgers as well, like that. yeah. okay. now let's about the tea debate. let's talk about the tea debate. so whether you put salt so whether you should put salt in your tea or sugar as the americans saying, bit of americans are saying, a bit of salt gerald has salt works. now gerald has gone a full on this. i'm a bit full on about this. i'm going opinions. gerald's going to read opinions. gerald's got a strong opinion just because heathens who

because a bunch of heathens who think they have an idea how tea should we, the greatest should be made. we, the greatest tea drinking nation in the world, does not need lesson from people whose country is not even as old as kerbstones in most of our cities. >> harsh. oh gerald, don't mince your words. >> thank you for that one. and on the music video that pete has starred in this week, it's incredible. if you haven't got a chance to watch it, it's called another way, isn't another another way, isn't it? another another it's pete's another way. it's on pete's instagram. about teenage another way. it's on pete's instagrtand aboutteenage another way. it's on pete's instagrtand teenaget teenage another way. it's on pete's instagrtand teenage bullying. another way. it's on pete's inst really d teenage bullying. another way. it's on pete's instreally powerful. bullying. another way. it's on pete's instreally powerful. butlying. another way. it's on pete's inst really powerful. but lee]. it's really powerful. but lee and devin's been in touch, saying he's watched the saying he's just watched the video starred in and video that pete starred in and it's got he says it's really got him. he says he's who bullied as he's someone who was bullied as a school and as a child at school and as a consequence, to consequence, he wanted to take his life. it's now affected his own life. it's now affected me in later life and i do still suffer now. bullying does affect you you much you for life. thank you so much for you to for powerful video. thank you to everyone that was involved. and that's what it's about. pete. >> it could just e it could just >> if it could just help one person understand . and person then understand. and that's why fabio's amazing at what he does. yeah. and then we've , uh, about king we've got, uh, about the king charles operation . phil from charles operation. phil from south i hope his

south shields says i hope his majesty is doing well. a few years ago, i had a prostate operation. when the nurse removed forgot removed the catheter, she forgot one big thing. removed the catheter, she forgot one big thing . she forgot to let one big thing. she forgot to let the balloon down. i really hope this to king charles. >> well, we do wish king charles well. and of course, the princess wales well. princess of wales as well. do keep your views coming in this morning. love to hear from morning. we do love to hear from you. gb views at gb news. com now take look at these. these now take a look at these. these are zombie knives. they are the size of machetes . and they have size of machetes. and they have a serrated blade on one side of them. and then a very , very them. and then a very, very sharp blade on the other side . sharp blade on the other side. and the government is set to ban them following home them following the home secretary's put in secretary's plans to put in place restrictions aimed at place new restrictions aimed at closing. what he describes as a loophole . loophole. >> earlier in the show we were joined in the studio by an activist for preventing knife crime and former gang member mark bracewell. let's take a look. >> i believe, and when i speak to some of the children that we work with a lot of them are carrying because they're carrying knives because they're scared. scared that scared. they're scared that other knives other people are carrying knives and defend and they're wanting to defend themselves. heard they

themselves. when i heard they were them, i was were going to ban them, i was like, well, why can't they do that today? why do have to that today? why do we have to wait or whatever wait till september or whatever it that thinking it is that they're thinking about i do truly about it? um, but i do truly believe there is a believe myself that there is a big, issue just as big, deeper issue than just as simple as kids picking up knives. speak knives. and when i speak to children, especially children, it's about especially the ones who have made that mistake of picking up a knife that yes, you've made mistake, that yes, you've made a mistake, but turn life but you can turn your life around and you still be around and you can still be successful, and still successful, and you can still have you have all the things that you dream know, just it dream of. you know, it just it doesn't to stop there. um, doesn't have to stop there. um, but like i it's about but like i say, it's about raising aspirations a very raising aspirations from a very young starts at the young age, and it starts at the primary level. starts primary school level. it starts within starts within the home. it starts before they step out of the before they even step out of the house about the world. >> that's former gang member mark bracewell speaking to us earlier . i mark bracewell speaking to us earlier. i want to invite back our panel now. this is the broadcaster , life coach and broadcaster, life coach and author jenni trent hughes and authorjenni trent hughes and political commentator matthew stadlen. welcome back you to what do you make there of what mark was describing? of course, welcoming the ban on zombie bands, think on zombie knives, bands, i think on zombie knives, i think everyone would. but he does a much

does say it's a much, much deeper issue than just the blade that kids are carrying . that kids are carrying. >> well, i completely agree, because i think that most issues that we try to deal with on one hand, you have the cause and then on the other hand , you have then on the other hand, you have then on the other hand, you have the effect and the fact is that the effect and the fact is that the cause is fear disinfo , the cause is fear disinfo, easement, whatever it is , and easement, whatever it is, and the knives are the effect . the, the knives are the effect. the, you know, the knives are how they deal with. they feel that they deal with. they feel that they can deal with the underlying root cause . and so we underlying root cause. and so we go around spending time trying to solve all the external things . but first we need to we actually need to deal with why you would do it in the first place. i don't care if it's a kitchen knife, a zombie knife. i don't want my child to feel the need to carry a knife for them to be safe. >> one thing i was quite struck by speaking to mark. i don't know if you felt the same way, pete, was that a lot of these kids he was describing aren't

carrying this knife to inflict violence. they're doing it to protect because protect themselves because every other they know is carrying other kid they know is carrying a then in terms of a knife. and then in terms of joining gang, they're it joining a gang, they're doing it in some cases actually feel a in some cases to actually feel a sense to like sense of belonging, to feel like they're part of something, part of a family, because they don't have home. i it's have that at home. i mean, it's a state affairs, isn't a sad state of affairs, isn't it? i mean, remember labour? >> i mean, remember new labour? they were going to be tough on crime tough causes of crime and tough on the causes of crime. think that this crime. and i think that this does that double does require that sort of double handed approach, that handed handed approach, that two handed approach don't approach. labour don't think that are doing nearly that the tories are doing nearly enough on this. don't think that the tories are doing nearly enougbans this. don't think that the tories are doing nearly enougbans go ;. don't think that the tories are doing nearly enougbans go far don't think that the tories are doing nearly enougbans go far enough�*t think that the tories are doing nearly enougbans go far enough . think that the tories are doing nearly enougbans go far enough . they these bans go far enough. they still going to be still think it's going to be easier to buy dangerous knives and all lives are dangerous. but look at the some of the ones we've been looking at today online, that is to buy a kitchen knife on the high street. labour say since 2015, crime say that since 2015, knife crime has up by 77. they've got has gone up by 77. they've got a five point plan to try and drive knife crime down by 50. but i should remind people that when i was involved in politics and political journalism way back in

2005, we were still then talking about a terrible boom in knives. so this isn't a sort of party political thing, but it does need a serious political approach. one of the things that labour wants to do is bring in youth hubs, but they also obviously want to crack down on gangs. forget, of gangs. don't forget, part of this about county lines. that this is about county lines. that horrible process by which adults manipulate young children or teenagers into doing their dirty work and sort of going almost undercover . it's work and sort of going almost undercover. it's a really scary phenomenon . phenomenon. >> it really is. we're to talking a former gang member this week on on breakfast who was describing that, um , they, was describing that, um, they, these people in gangs would come up to young children 12,11 up to young children 12, 11 years old sometimes and say, oh , years old sometimes and say, oh, um, a new of um, do you fancy a new pair of trainers? do want of trainers? do you want a pair of jordans? have jordans? and these kids have never had anything like that. like, love pair like, yeah, i'd love a pair of jordans. you jordans. that's great. if you could just this for me could just do this. this for me and they don't quite understand. they're being groomed age they're being groomed at the age of things like trainers of 11 with things like trainers and they don't have

and money that they don't have at why? >> why? >> why? >> in countries w countries where >> in some countries then where the is so low, it's the crime rate is so low, it's because an absolute because there's an absolute ban on anything not just on anything like that, not just a for certain types of a new ban for certain types of weapons. complete ban of weapons. it's a complete ban of everything, you know. is there something in actual in, in actually trying to tackle it as actually trying to tackle it as a whole rather than certain knives or certain because you were saying , but it's still but were saying, but it's still but it's still it's still the concept. >> it's still the concept of addressing the symptom or the effect rather than the root cause.i effect rather than the root cause. i agree, and that one of the things that they found, we could do a whole series on this, but there's a thing called hsi , but there's a thing called hsi, which is yourself, which is the self—esteem index . and years ago self—esteem index. and years ago they did a study in this country to find out what makes kids go off the rails. and it's low self—esteem and so if kids feel good about themselves and feel comfortable within themselves , comfortable within themselves, they're less likely to make all they're less likely to make all the choices we don't want them to make. and that's children across the board . and so, yes, across the board. and so, yes,

we need to stop the knives and the sale of knives , but we the sale of knives, but we also need work on making children need to work on making children feel better , better and stronger feel better, better and stronger and safe. yeah and safe. >> higher self—esteem than you might be less tempted by trainers, but strong . exactly. trainers, but strong. exactly. strong education is important , strong education is important, and strong parenting is important. yeah, strong community is important. one of the things that labour under yvette cooper shadow home secretary wants to bring in is a sort of cross governmental panel sort of cross governmental panel, almost bringing together political figures, but also community leaders. there's a huge role for community leaders and perhaps even celebrity. i mean, idris elba, who's a fantastic actor, a huge figure, and he has got a knife, a knife, crime campaign going. we need to get these sorts of figures and people like mark, who seems to be doing a brilliant job. your guest earlier trying to talk people of this and remind people out of this and to remind people out of this and to remind people mean, i was people that, i mean, i was brought know that if you brought up to know that if you carried a knife, you were putting yourself at greater risk, yes, than if you didn't. yeah. yeah.

>> really , really >> no, it's really, really important to talk about. >> talk optically, literally. >> we really could . well, this >> we really could. well, this next story does relate in a very, sad way because of very, very sad way because of course, we're talking the course, we're talking about the knife the nottingham knife attack, the nottingham killings in killings that took place in, in june yeah killings that took place in, in june year. and valdo june of last year. and valdo calocane , the man who killed calocane, the man who killed barnaby webber. calocane, the man who killed barnaby webber . you'll remember barnaby webber. you'll remember this barnaby and this story. barnaby webber and grace just grace o'malley kumar were just 19 years old. students at nottingham university, ian nottingham university, and ian coates, the caretaker . he killed coates, the caretaker. he killed all three of them in a knife attack last june. he's now been found guilty of manslaughter and given an indefinite hospital order. now the families . of order. now the families. of those that were killed that day are very vocal about this, saying that faldo has got away with murder. it's just the most horrific story, isn't it? >> i say i don't >> i mean, i would say i don't think in a position having think i'm in a position having not court, to argue with not been in court, to argue with the decision of the court in terms of his sentence and the appropriateness of the conviction . so manslaughter is conviction. so manslaughter is obviously very different from murder, and one can absolutely understand the horror and the

anger and the grief of these families. i mean, there'sjust families. i mean, there's just nothing worse than what they've gone through and continued to go through. i think more widely there are big questions be there are big questions to be asked. there always are with these sorts cases . i think these sorts of cases. i think leicestershire police and nottinghamshire police, they are being asked serious questions because man is supposed to because this man is supposed to have warrant out for his have had a warrant out for his arrest and he's also supposed to have attacked two other people just weeks before these killings. and then there is a question of how care in the community is working, how well set up our nhs is for people with very serious mental issues andindeed with very serious mental issues and indeed less serious mental issues. all of these things, i think, need to looked into. think, need to be looked into. keir for his part, keir starmer for his part, i think backed idea of an think he's backed the idea of an inquiry . sunak so stood inquiry. sunak so far has stood back from that. >> and jenny, i can see your thinking. very i'm, i'm, thinking. you're very i'm, i'm, i'm thinking yeah , i'm thinking i'm thinking yeah, i'm thinking that i've you know that that you have a child and you raise a child and then someone kills your child . and it's like, you

your child. and it's like, you know, like the families have said, it's you feel your child is murdered . is murdered. >> you're not going to sit there and say, well, the man is very sad and he's not well. and i absolutely do feel for him. but i think that in many ways society has lost their sense of priority and priorities are preservation of life and safety for its citizens . and i'm just for its citizens. and i'm just not comfortable with the decision at all. >> well, it has actually been been given over to the attorney general's office. they've received that referral. um, they're going to look into whether that sentence was unduly lenient. it could potentially go to the court of appeal. and we're looking at a we're also looking at a potential public inquiry that's what the of barnaby what the mother of barnaby webber for now, webber is calling for now, actually support it. by sir keir starmer a public inquiry into this, looking at to whether there were failings in the police, whether they were failings by cps, whether failings by the cps, whether they're to

they're failings by the nhs to actually calocane and actually stop valdo calocane and matthew, just on your point, a court heard that valdo calocane had been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia , and that's why he schizophrenia, and that's why he pled guilty to three counts of manslaughter on the basis of diminished responsibility. >> so and again, i wasn't in the court standing way back from this as far as i can. i suppose there are questions and we'll see whether that sentence does get upgraded or changed. i think the question one of the questions is in terms of deterrence, we want to keep our children safe. we don't want this ever to happen again . children safe. we don't want this ever to happen again. had he been convicted of murder , he been convicted of murder, would that have deterred someone like this individual suffering from the sort of mental health issues he experienced, or actually , if there is better actually, if there is better care in the community, if our nhs was better equipped to deal with mental health, if the police forces had their act police forces had got their act together , if indeed they hadn't, together, if indeed they hadn't, and that's going to be probably part investigation if part of this investigation if there is one. these are sort of burning questions. there is one. these are sort of buri'm, questions. there is one. these are sort of buri'm, quelooking at jenny >> i'm, i'm looking at jenny again because i can understand

what you were saying. and as a parent that is worst thing parent that is the worst thing that could it could be imaginable to someone is to go through this, lose a child. through this, to lose a child. and them , it's forever. and for them, it's forever. yeah. if somebody is yeah. so if somebody is sentenced to , you know, whatever sentenced to, you know, whatever the sentence is, it's never, you know, if it's a hospital , it's know, if it's a hospital, it's an indefinite one. that's right. but but for, for the parent, this is to get passed to get to get past that . so you can get past that. so you can understand i can and i'm not. >> and i'm very much you know, i'm not all about punishment . i'm not all about punishment. and i believe in rehabilitation and i believe in all of that . i and i believe in all of that. i just feel that at this point in time, if i was the wife or the grandchild or the whatever of the of the gentleman and a parent of one of those children, right now, it would be too soon for me to get past that. >> and jenny, we were talking about the very human on side of the story, weren't we in the break just before we came on? yeah. is two children, yeah. and it is two children, essentially 19 year olds, teenagers and a man who was just

about to start his retirement. i mean, it just makes it even harder to swallow, doesn't it? this story is three people with their entire lives. yeah. >> because because, because because i'm with matthew. i'm not upset , because i'm with matthew. i'm not upset, angry, annoyed, whatever about the gentleman who committed the manslaughter ? it's committed the manslaughter? it's the system. did the system fail us because by this, if the system failed us, failed him, then then that's that's really then then that's that's really the root cause of it. it's not his illness. it's what it should have been in place to prevent him from acting out on his, you know, on on his issues that pubuc know, on on his issues that public services is almost across the board are really stretched in this country. >> some people will blame the tories because they've been in power for 14 years. people power for 14 years. other people might lay the finger at other causes pandemic, the might lay the finger at other causin pandemic, the might lay the finger at other causin ukraine pandemic, the might lay the finger at other causin ukraine and pandemic, the might lay the finger at other causin ukraine and sonndemic, the might lay the finger at other causin ukraine and so forth.ic, the might lay the finger at other causin ukraine and so forth. but1e war in ukraine and so forth. but we have got big choices ahead in this election year. are we going to raise taxes ? almost certainly to raise taxes? almost certainly not. are we going to cut taxes?

very possibly. but if we cut taxes, does that mean for taxes, what does that mean for our these are taxes, what does that mean for our questions these are taxes, what does that mean for our questions as these are taxes, what does that mean for our questions as we these are taxes, what does that mean for our questions as we move are key questions as we move forward. and they have real world consequences. yeah. >> can see in nottingham, >> as we can see in nottingham, jenny trunks and matthew stadlen. thank you. thank you guys for your time. well still to come, we're going to be joined by our fabulous showbiz reporter stephanie takyi to unpick this week's news. we're going to be seeing her very shortly. >> but up next, with cold >> but up next, with the cold weather returning, what does this that suffer this mean for those that suffer from next guest from reynolds? our next guest will the impact of this will explain the impact of this condition. is saturday condition. this is saturday morning live on gb news. britain's news channel .

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is. >> welcome back to saturday morning live. the time is 11:24. loads of emails coming in this morning. thank you so much. do keep them coming at loads of you. get in touch about tea. this morning debate. >> it is a big debate. >> it is a big debate. >> it is a big debate. >> it always is. it's a national conversation because as us conversation because as a us scientist that if you scientist suggested that if you put spoonful salt in a cup put a spoonful of salt in a cup of tea and actually counteracts the bitterness and makes it taste better, uh, safe to say you're happy this , but you're not happy about this, but bruce from devon has an interesting and interesting email he sent. >> so bruce said salt is a flavour enhancer and is slightly sweet. maybe that's why this american academic recommends salt in your tea. >> well, do stay tuned because in about five minutes time, pete

and i are going to be trying the salty tea, aren't we? how do you feel about that? >> not great. neither i. >> not great. no, neither do i. >> not great. no, neither do i. >> really like salty >> i don't really like salty things, we'll how but things, so we'll see how we. but you've have an open mind. you've got to have an open mind. >> i i just don't >> yeah i have, i just don't want have an open mouth when want to have an open mouth when it comes to salty tea. >> going to be >> well, we're going to be trying about five minutes trying it in about five minutes time, sure you stay time, so do make sure you stay tuned that. now now, tuned for that. now now, very sad very annoying sad news. very annoying news. actually, is actually, the cold weather is returning next week. just when you feel returning next week. just when y(little feel returning next week. just when y(little bit feel returning next week. just when y(little bit warmer. feel returning next week. just when y(little bit warmer. no, feel a little bit warmer. no, it's coming next and that's coming back next week and that's bad news for all of us. but especially for millions of people with people who struggle with a surprisingly common little surprisingly common but little known called rainouts. known condition called rainouts. >> know it all too well. >> yep, i know it all too well. it's a condition that responds badly to the colder temperatures as stops the as it temporarily stops the blood flow to your fingers flow. sorry to your fingers, and sorry to your fingers, toes and even ears nose causing even ears and nose causing severe pain. >> and heating bills rising >> and with heating bills rising , the charity sukh has a campaign calling on energy companies to keep bills affordable for those who suffer with the condition . with the condition. >> joining us now is jodi jones , >> joining us now is jodi jones, who has a reynolds now. reynolds

is the right way to pronounce it. it is apparently, yes. okay, so i have them too, but i want to hear i want to hear from you. okay. about what this actually does for people don't know does for people that don't know what it is. >> w- e“— >> okay. so, um, my fingers go completely white. um, not all of them. it can just be certain digits. um, but sometimes it can be them. causes be all of them. um, it causes them to be really cold. they go numb . and the most painful thing numb. and the most painful thing is when the blood comes back ache, and then they go bright red, and then they go black, and then they throb and they really, really hurt. but the numbness sort of stops you doing lots of different things. >> there'll people that >> and there'll be people that have and have no have had this right and have no idea it is. and because idea what it is. and because i remember first time it remember the first time it happened it was only remember the first time it happe four it was only remember the first time it happe four years it was only remember the first time it happe four years ago.as only remember the first time it happefour years ago. i; only remember the first time it happefour years ago. i wasy about four years ago. i was like, what's happening to me? i could hands starting to could see my hands starting to go completely white. quite could see my hands starting to grscarypletely white. quite could see my hands starting to grscary thingy white. quite could see my hands starting to grscary thing when e. quite could see my hands starting to grscary thing when you quite could see my hands starting to grscary thing when you first te a scary thing when you first have um, what are your have it. yeah. um, what are your what are your thoughts on do what are your thoughts on on do you there's a lot you think there's a lot of people out there that have this that have no idea what this is, so it happens to >> i think it happens to me quite often. i'm usually cold.

i'm like, cold i'm one of those, like, cold people always. and it can happen i'm one of those, like, cold pethee always. and it can happen i'm one of those, like, cold pethe winter.;. and it can happen i'm one of those, like, cold pethe winter. itknd it can happen i'm one of those, like, cold pethe winter. it canit can happen i'm one of those, like, cold pethe winter. it can alsor happen in the winter. it can also happenin in the winter. it can also happen in the summer. it'sjust happen in the summer. it's just the temperature that the ambient temperature that changes just cause changes can sort of just cause a flare. um, but when, whenever it happens, i sort of show my happens, i just sort of show my fingers to people and then they kind go, oh, i've had that, kind of go, oh, i've had that, or my auntie or my cousin or my mum, you know? much more mum, you know? so it's much more common than people might believe. >> so to bring you in at >> so i want to bring you in at this this is sue this stage. this is sue farringdon, chief executive farringdon, the chief executive of sukh. to of the charity sukh. very to good sue. so is this good see you, sue. so is this much common people much more common than people might, not realise? might, might not realise? >> yeah, it is as common as hay fever. estimated that there fever. it's estimated that there are about 10 million people in the uk that get raynaud's , but the uk that get raynaud's, but not everybody has it all of the time . so people about time. so of those people about 3 million will still get it during the summer months. and as jodie was saying, for those people in the winter, it's the cold that really impacts them. but in the summer it can be the slightest change in temperature that can bnng change in temperature that can bring on what we call this raynaud's attack and that's where the blood vessels

constrict. so that's why your hands go white, because the blood's not getting there. and then the blood comes back and your hands can go kind of reddish purple colour. your hands can go kind of reddish purple colour . and the reddish purple colour. and the throbbing and the stinging that people feel is so excruciatingly painful . but people feel is so excruciatingly painful. but i think it's excruciatingly painful. but it has a massive impact on doing daily tasks , buttoning up your daily tasks, buttoning up your shirt, chopping up vegetables which could become quite dangerous. so you've got to be really , really careful how you really, really careful how you manage your renodes . manage your renodes. >> now, it was interesting because just before i was saying to that first had to you that when i first had them, saying someone them, i remember saying someone saying , oh, it's going saying to me, oh, it's not going to you. get over it. and to kill you. get over it. and you somebody maybe you know, somebody maybe listening on the radio who hasn't pictures that hasn't seen these pictures that we and it looks we were just seeing and it looks quite you quite horrific. you know, they'll get over it. they'll say, i'll get over it. it's a bit of. but actually it's only a bit of. but actually what i didn't know until you told that there, there can told me is that there, there can be damaging that be some damaging things that happen. explain that? >> so if you keep on getting these attacks and those, it may be happens 2 or 3 times a day and it can last for 20 minutes

or up to an hour, that's going to have a serious impact on the blood vessels around your fingertips. and i would say maybe ten, 15 years ago, it wouldn't be unheard of for people to have to have their fingertips removed because it would they would go black and gangrenous . would they would go black and gangrenous. or you may get ulcers on your fingertips. wow. but i think the important thing is it is so painful. what we don't want is for people to suffer in silence . and there are suffer in silence. and there are some things that some really simple things that people can do. but because, as you said, it's not life threatening. don't take threatening. people don't take it seriously. and fortunately, gp's don't take it seriously. so people aren't getting the information support that they need. >> so what can you do? sorry i know so they can ask exactly the same questions. what can you do? yeah, because i want to know as well. >> it comes into three categories. there's lifestyle advice, tips advice, there's practical tips and medication and then there's medication for lifestyle you smoke lifestyle advice. if you smoke stop smoking. if you're having a lot of caffeine, cut back on your caffeine. and also take gentle, regular exercise. all of

those three things can really help with your circulation . help with your circulation. yeah. and then in terms of some practical tips, layers wear layers don't just wear a jumper because the layers trap the heat. so it's the same for your hands. wear thin gloves with a mitten. don't take ice drinks from the fridge. don't drink ice cold drinks . cold drinks. >> oh i'm in trouble. >> oh i'm in trouble. >> and then there's trouble. >> and then there's trouble. >> final one i hope you're making notes here. >> i know, but i'm having a coffee as we speak. >> very i know. dodi. >> how do you manage your condition ? condition? >> um, bit like what sue said. >> um, a bit like what sue said. layers, layers. got layers, layers, layers. i've got some, got a drawer full some, um. i've got a drawer full of thermals, which are, you know , really fetching when you want to out with your friends. and to go out with your friends. and it's they're it's cold outside and they're all and all wearing nice dresses and you've, know, to put you've, you know, got to put your thermals on. um just so many multiples of pairs of slippers , um, wrist warmers. slippers, um, wrist warmers. i find are a massive life saver , find are a massive life saver, especially if you're kind of working from home. i've got heat pads, i've got a little heat

warmer and warmer that i brought with me. um, so you can just recharge it, press a button and keep in your pocket . um, just keep it in your pocket. um, just everything you have to think about. everything >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what's interesting, though, and don't if is and i don't know if this is common as well . and it's good common as well. and it's good for who may get for people to know who may get this, year i didn't this, that this year i didn't get at all. but every year get it at all. but every year for last four years, i've for the last four years, i've had really bad. so , so had it really bad. so i'm so, so for people that don't know, can it just come but you it just come and go? but you still need to be aware of it. >> yeah. it can affect >> yeah. so it can affect anybody. it generally anybody. but it generally affects times women affects four times more women than men . and it affect than men. and it can affect anybody of any age. >> well jodie and sue, really good to have you this morning. and a really fantastic actually to raise awareness about what is such a common condition. i had absolutely . so thank you absolutely no idea. so thank you so much coming into the so much for coming into the studio. and let's hope actually that energy bills do stay that those energy bills do stay affordable for people that suffer with reynolds, because affordable for people that suffeisnith reynolds, because affordable for people that suffeis ath reynolds, because affordable for people that suffeis a reallynolds, because affordable for people that suffeis a really importantause affordable for people that suffeis a really important thing that is a really important thing as it? thank you so as well, isn't it? thank you so much . now, lots more coming up much. now, lots more coming up on the show today. but first, let's news headlines

let's get the news headlines with allison . with ray allison. >> thanks, guys. 1132 our top stories . the king has begun his stories. the king has begun his second day in hospital after undergoing a procedure for an enlarged prostate . but enlarged prostate. but buckingham palace says that king charles stayed overnight at the london clinic , where he is said london clinic, where he is said to be doing well. it's the same hospital where the princess of wales is being cared for, following surgery . the following abdominal surgery. the ministry of defence will neither confirm nor deny plans for the uk to house us nuclear weapons. pentagon documents seen by the telegraph reportedly show that the warheads will be housed at raf lakenheath in suffolk. it follows warnings from a senior nato official. the country should ready for war with moscow within the next 20 years. uk intelligence services are not equipped to handle covert threats from china. that's the

warning from former m16 deputy head nigel inkster. speaking to the i newspaper, he said the problem includes m15, m16 and gchq. problem includes m15, m16 and gchq . mr inkster said that gchq. mr inkster said that issues include language, expertise and his historical and cultural awareness . he also said cultural awareness. he also said beijing is operating, quote, industrial scale cyber espionage operations against western countries . and the holocaust countries. and the holocaust educational trust says that this year's holocaust memorial day will be difficult due to the ongoing hamas—israel conflict , ongoing hamas—israel conflict, but well—known landmarks will be lit up in purple across the uk later. to mark the occasion, chief exec karen pollock said the huge increase in anti—semitism . since the october anti—semitism. since the october 7th attacks means the jewish community will mark the occasion with heavier hearts . you can get with heavier hearts. you can get more on all of those stories if you visit our website gbnews.com now let's get straight back to ellie and peter.

>> thank you ray. now sue and jodie just made a really good point that they didn't get to mention on air, which is that if you think you have renal aids, go on to website sr go on to the website as sr uh.com. believe , and there is uh.com. i believe, and there is a free online test that you can do to see if you have rhiannon so called test me to test me. you won't miss it. so if you do think you have raynaud's, just go and check that out. go on and check that out. >> okay . uh, i've been waiting >> okay. uh, i've been waiting for this . there's an experiment. for this. there's an experiment. um, that's that's happened in america. well, actually, it's not this, not an experiment. this this, uh, scientist said that if you put salt in your tea. put a bit of salt in your tea. okay that you that that that's how it should. >> yeah. it counteracts the bitterness. yeah. so it's a story that's gone viral this week, and it's this us scientist who's basically said that the perfect brew is made by microwaving the water. >> i mean, it just god and adding a pinch of salt. >> well, the embassy's got >> well, the us embassy's got involved. this involved. they've released this statement saying that putting

salt tea is salt in a cup of tea is unthinkable. well, it's not official . and in this official policy. and in this statement, they us statement, they say the us embassy will continue to make tea in a proper way by microwave ing it. >> so this is the debate we've gotten into now, is it? >> yeah, we really have. i mean, need to it to the test. need to put it to the test. >> yeah, i do. we are going to put this to the test right now. >> cups of tea here. >> so got our cups of tea here. >> yep. >> yep. >> in our gb news mugs. >> in our gb news mugs. >> yep. and they just plain tea. >> yep. and they just plain tea. >> we're going to >> but hang on we're going to put now i'm going to put salt in it. now i'm going to do what what guy said do what the what the guy said before it's only a before who said it's only a pinch oh. so why don't pinch of salt. oh. so why don't you. i'll do a full salt and you do a pinch let's see if do a pinch and let's see if there's difference. going do a pinch and let's see if th> are you? i was going to get you. oh dear. >> that was a bit than spoon. >> all right. i'm glad i'm doing the pinch. >> the teabags still in. >> the teabags still in. >> well whoever made >> oh well that's whoever made that. way we've that. that's not the way we've messed it up already. >> oh. >> oh, oh. >> eam- 5 little pinch? >> how's your little pinch? >> how's your little pinch? >> you know, spilling >> good luck. you know, spilling salt luck. hang on. salt is bad luck. wait. hang on. >> just putting sprinkles. >> putting elianne. >> she's putting elianne. putting sprinkle of salt her putting sprinkle of salt in her tea. the salt is

tea. and the rest of the salt is all the table. all over the table. >> sorry, guys, i've made >> yeah. sorry, guys, i've made it. i made mess here. so it. i made a mess here. so pete's done a lot. i've done a little. here go. there we go. little. here we go. there we go. cheers. there little. here we go. there we go. chego. there we go. >> that the most disgusting >> that is the most disgusting thing ever tasted thing i've ever tasted in my life. >> absolutely. that's >> that is. absolutely. that's not had you had a little bit that >> had you had a little bit that if the table drank it. >> look at all this. >> look at all this. >> take bigger sip. >> i mean, take a bigger sip. >> i mean, take a bigger sip. >> i mean, take a bigger sip. >> i think you know what >> no, i think you know what i don't think i put enough in. maybe don't. maybe that's what i don't. >> mine. please try mine. >> try mine. please try mine. please mine. please try mine. >> ellie's trying on >> ellie's now trying mine on the side. the lipstick side. >> that's um, we go. >> that's gross. um, here we go. so is now. so this is now. >> ellie's is fabulous. so this is now. >> soie's is fabulous. so this is now. >> soie's is fheilous. so this is now. >> soie's is fhe was. so this is now. >> soie's is fhe was on to >> so maybe he was on to something because he said only to bit. right. i'm to use a little bit. right. i'm gonna have a sip yours now, gonna have a sip of yours now, guys, can't see this on radio. >> oh. >> oh. >> disgusting. >> that's disgusting. >> that's disgusting. >> what i mean? so. >> do you know what i mean? so. oh, i the pinches. good. oh, so i get the pinches. good. salt salt bay it. salt bay it. salt bay it. >> that gives me tingles in a very awful awful awful. very bad way. awful awful awful. so a little pinch of salt, maybe. to something there. >> not a whole tin, not a whole. >> not a whole tin, not a whole. >> let us know if you try that at home. i wouldn't really recommend. i like the old fashioned but us fashioned way, but do let us know what you if you do

know what you think. if you do get to try that home. get to try that at home. vaiews@gbnews.uk um, it's time now dose of now for your weekly dose of showbiz i love, now for your weekly dose of showbizi love, love having >> and i love, love, love having this lovely lady showbiz. this lovely lady in showbiz. journalist stephanie takyi. uh, she's start hey, she's going to start with. hey, you're robert de niro. >> it feels a bit salty in here. >> it feels a bit salty in here. >> oh, he's tried his stuff . >> oh, he's tried his stuff. >> oh, he's tried his stuff. >> it's. no, you don't want to try it? >> yeah. try it. >> yeah. try it. >> i don't think so, guys. how old do you think too old to >> i don't think so, guys. how olcan you think too old to >> i don't think so, guys. how olca father,think too old to >> i don't think so, guys. how olca father, pete? too old to >> i don't think so, guys. how olca father, pete? well,» old to >> i don't think so, guys. how olca father, pete? well, i'm. to be a father, pete? well, i'm. >> it's personal question. >> it's a personal question. >> it's a personal question. >> it's a personal. >> it's a personal. >> personal in it for this time of day. i don't i think it of day. i don't know, i think it depends the father. depends on the father. >> de niro, i like >> well, robert de niro, i like that de niro, year, that robert de niro, last year, when and that when he came out and said that he was going to be a father at the a lot of people the age of 79, a lot of people were calling him selfish because they're like, he's old. he's were calling him selfish because theygoing e, he's old. he's were calling him selfish because theygoing e, be; old. he's were calling him selfish because theygoing e, be in old. he's were calling him selfish because theygoing e, be in the ld. he's were calling him selfish because theygoing e, be in the child's; not going to be in the child's life for that long. and he's now done his first interview since he baby daughter, he welcomed his baby daughter, gia and he says having gia virginia and he says having a baby this age has been a baby now at this age has been really because really emotional for him because he feeling he says when he's feeling depressed or sad, she just brightens up his day. we have a clip of him talking. >> it feels great because everything that i'm consumed

with or worried about or this or that just goes away when i look at her. so you know , i'm an 80 at her. so you know, i'm an 80 year old dad and it's great. and i want to be around for as long as i can to enjoy it. >> i mean, let's get something straight. if robert de niro says, i'm having a kid at 80, you go, okay, sir, no problem. right. it's true . but i guess right. it's true. but i guess where people are or what people are saying is that , you know, is are saying is that, you know, is he going to be old enough to see his child grow up? so i can understand, although it is de niro and he is indestructible, so could be here till one so he could be here till one 2120 and the money to 2120 and he's got the money to look child. look after a child. >> i guess a lot of people >> but i guess a lot of people think it's about having that shared experience with the child think it's about having that sharai experience with the child think it's about having that shara fatherience with the child think it's about having that shara fatherience wi asthe child and a father as long as possible, have the possible, so he may have the money to make sure that this child will be well looked after. but the amount of time he has with her is something. and i think, know, celebrities are think, you know, celebrities are starting more. starting to do that more. they're have kids they're starting to have kids much they going

they're starting to have kids m|face they going they're starting to have kids m|face of they going they're starting to have kids m|face of criticism going they're starting to have kids m|face of criticism now.g to face a lot of criticism now. >> stephanie, you and i are massive swifties, which, you massive swifties, which, if you aren't , is a taylor swift aren't aware, is a taylor swift fan. yes. and i would say two of the ever. the biggest ever. >> are. seriously, we to >> we are. seriously, we need to go taylor swift concert go to a taylor swift concert soon. really need to it happen. >> but she's making headlines as she is. >> f- f— >> the swifties are not happy. ellie and peter because we ellie and peter because on we know about al and know we know about al and we know we don't . it's know about al and we know we don't. it's finding it hard to differentiate between what's real fake and unfortunately real and fake and unfortunately for taylor, week there was for taylor, this week there was some sexually explicit images that got posted on ecstasy week of her in very compromising situations. it got viewed to 27 million times on x, it got 260,000 likes. and now taylor's consider suing this fake account that got set up and set these images so the swifties are quite annoyed because they're saying, how was this managed to stay on x for 19 hours before the account . was deleted? and it's account. was deleted? and it's quite scary for celebrities now because i can generate all these

fake images and people think, oh, that's real. and it's not. >> it's like pete's instagram story this morning tells steph about that. >> i put an instagram story up today. i don't if we've got today. i don't know if we've got a but basically a clip of it, but basically i went online, found, um, donald trump then i got him to trump and then i got him to i got him to say i'm coming on the show today with ellie and peter, andifs show today with ellie and peter, and it's funny , terminal, best and it's funny, terminal, best show the world, etc. etc. and show in the world, etc. etc. and i had people going, oh my gosh, you got trump on the show. and i'm thinking, you tell? i'm thinking, can you tell? i mean, was so obvious. was mean, it was so obvious. it was l, mean, it was so obvious. it was i, but well, you think you can do anything. i, but well, you think you can do it's:hing. i, but well, you think you can do it's:h but this is the thing >> it's i but this is the thing and so sophisticated. and that's so sophisticated. some it it's some people believe it and it's scary not scary because it's like it's not you, your image is being used. >> so as you can imagine, someone like taylor swift well loved. have those loved. and for her to have those images i think it's terrible. >> surely they should have a blocking when blocking system that when anything, up with anything, anything comes up with certain images, certain words or certain images, anything , certain words or certain images, anything, nudity or anything should be immediately blocked, like not 19 hours later, because by then people, people download, they share. >> well , this is the problem

>> well, this is the problem with x now that it's being run by elon musk, like all the kind of twitter policies that were there he's changed it there before, he's changed it around lot people, around. so a lot of people, advertisers are leaving x in their numbers because these kind of situations should not be happening on social media websites at all. >> no. absolutely not. stephanie, let's talk about oscar norms, shall we? >> oh , another award show, >> oh, another award show, another snub for barbie. you know , we knew what the know, we knew what the predictions were . 11, 11 awards predictions were. 11, 11 awards for oppenheimer , actually 13 and for oppenheimer, actually 13 and then 11 for poor things, which starts emma stone. but it was only eight awards for barbie, which i think still an which i think is still an achievement. still achievement. yeah, it still sounds like a lot. it's still good, but they didn't get nominated for picture and nominated for best picture and best for greta gerwig. best director for greta gerwig. and also margot robbie didn't get actress . so a lot of get best actress. so a lot of people are quite annoyed because they're saying, how can you vote for best picture but not recommend not highlight the director or the leading star? ryan gosling got a nomination for supporting actor, and he put

out a statement earlier this week where he said, you know what? there would be no barbie without margot and there would be without greta be no barbie without greta gerwig. are saying, gerwig. so people are saying, okay, forfeit oscar okay, well, forfeit your oscar nomination, going nomination, which he's not going to there's just been, it to do. but there's just been, it seems barbie been seems like barbie has been stealing the headlines because, you know, made £1 billion you know, it made £1 billion plus in the cinemas last year. so people are quite shocked. but as i've said before, what the members of the academy vote for and what people at home like is two different things. >> yeah, really, really difficult. very quickly, difficult. just very quickly, stephanie, why do you think that ryan nominated? but ryan gosling was nominated? but barbie the barbie film was barbie in the barbie film was not i quite impressed with not i was quite impressed with ryan the movie. ryan gosling in the movie. >> i thought he'd an >> i thought he'd done an outstanding performance . you outstanding performance. you know, of people that know, a lot of people know that barbie time, barbie is about a feminist time, but stood for but i thought he stood for masculinity that movie, and masculinity in that movie, and he quite comedic . it's he was quite comedic. it's a role i've never seen him play before , and i think maybe that's before, and i think maybe that's what was refreshing. i think for him, he just kind of broke the barriers kind of movies him, he just kind of broke the ba|does kind of movies him, he just kind of broke the ba|does . kind of movies him, he just kind of broke the ba|does . um, kind of movies him, he just kind of broke the ba|does . um, unfortunatelyes him, he just kind of broke the ba|does . um, unfortunately for he does. um, unfortunately for margot robbie, it seems to margot robbie, it just seems to have , but still be

have fallen flat, but still be nominated. >> yeah , yeah, yeah, >> yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty . pretty recognition. >> it's still important. thank you. >> stephanie, really good to see you as always. >> now. still to come . we're >> now. still to come. we're going to joined in the studio going to be joined in the studio by but two apprentice by not one but two apprentice stars, including last year's winner. we are going to get to the bottom of lord sugar's comments on the laziness of the tiktok generation. you will have an opinion on that. don't drink any more of that tea. >> it's disgusting. i was just about is saturday about to this is saturday morning gb news, morning live on gb news, britain's news channel. >> were thinking of

weekend at 3 pm. on gb news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . welcome news channel. welcome back to saturday morning live. >> now, if you're watching, about ten minutes ago, you would have peter salt have seen peter knight try salt in tea . and this is after in our tea. and this is after a us scientists suggested it helps to counteract the bitterness and creates perfect cuppa . yeah, creates the perfect cuppa. yeah, we weren't sure, were we? >> we weren't. >> we weren't. >> but you know what? i'm this scientist got scientist. he's got he's got some legs. he's got some legs. >> tiny little >> if it's a tiny little sprinkle , if it's a big heap sprinkle, if it's a big heap teaspoon which we tried the heap. teaspoon which we tried the heateaspoon. >> teaspoon. >> teaspoon. >> so disgusting. >> not so good. disgusting. >> not so good. disgusting. >> is put >> but what he said is put a little actually i was little bit. and actually i was pleasantly surprised. >> yeah. the little bits. >> yeah. the little bits. >> and karen from >> not too bad. and karen from birmingham just said the same thing. she said i just tried a pinch in usual green pinch of salt in my usual green tea mint. yes it was tea with mint. yes it was fabulous. the taste softened and it out minty it brought out the minty flavour. mind you, flavour. just a pinch, mind you, as it's bad for you. otherwise all that salt and just another

thing you can do is you can put great on your pasta. great halloumi on your pasta. >> a lot of people don't know that. >> there you go. >> oh, there you go. >> oh, there you go. >> that's another story, right? >> oh, there you go. >> t go's another story, right? >> oh, there you go. >> t go's (dave. r story, right? >> oh, there you go. >> t go's (dave. r st says ight? >> oh, there you go. >> t go's (dave. r st says i|ht? >> oh, there you go. >> t go's (dave. r st says i have let's go to dave. he says i have electrolytes. in my first morning also morning coffee, uh, also with a scoop of collagen powder and some mate. some coconut oil. okay, mate. now overdoing it, now he's now he's overdoing it, now he's overdoing have any salt, >> but do you have any salt, dave? what we to dave? that's what we want to know. >> y- know. >> the electrolytes, >> well, the electrolytes, i guess. >> well, the electrolytes, i gueoh, yeah. that's something. >> oh, yeah. that's something. uh, and stephen the point. uh, and stephen makes the point. is a teaspoon or a flat is it heat a teaspoon or a flat teaspoon, or is it half teaspoon? it does make a big difference. probably difference. well, i probably did a of teaspoon. a quarter of a teaspoon. i really lot. a quarter of a teaspoon. i reaiit lot. a quarter of a teaspoon. i reaiit not lot. a quarter of a teaspoon. i reaiit not it lot. a quarter of a teaspoon. i reaiit not it was . a quarter of a teaspoon. i reaiit not it was not bad. >> it was not it was not bad. over to bullying though. >> um, got sandra who says >> um, we've got sandra who says she was forced to leave an excellent under constructive excellent job under constructive dismissal office bully dismissal due to an office bully with of bullying. with a history of bullying. other employees. took me 14 months to take the company to employment months to take the company to eras.oyment months to take the company to eras.oymen employers have it as won. i employers have a duty to listen and protect their employees. bullying can be subtle, to employees. bullying can be subtla to employees. bullying can be subtla diary to employees. bullying can be subtla diary log to employees. bullying can be subtla diary log on to employees. bullying can be subtla diary log on all to incidents. >> yeah, the reason we're talking about that is because pete music pete has starred in a music video teenage bullying and video about teenage bullying and teenage so it's really teenage suicide, so it's really been raising awareness and 2 million views on instagram. >> and month our

>> yeah. and next month is our children's mental. >> uh, i think it's the beginning of february mental week for mental health week for children . sorry. um, so yeah , children. sorry. um, so yeah, it's on the rise and we need to tackle it. yeah. >> thank you so much for all those views. do keep them coming in now, lord alan sugar is preparing for the 18th series of the apprentice in an the apprentice and in an interview mail, interview with the daily mail, he slammed latest he has slammed the latest candidates with of candidates with a lack of hungeh candidates with a lack of hunger, saying he got nothing from them but excuses. >> many blame tiktok or as some call it, tiktok and social media for a new generation of work. shy gen zs . but is this really shy gen zs. but is this really the case? we've got strong opinions on this. or are we just witnessing a positive change in working attitudes? >> well, joining us now in the studio to discuss this is two former the apprentice star. we have the 2023 winner marnie swindells and popular former candidate ryan mark parsons. very good to see you both this morning, ryan . let's start with morning, ryan. let's start with you, shall we? because you are gen z, i believe. yeah, i'm 23. you're 23. so how do you feel

about these comments from lord sugar? and do you think they're aimed at you? >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> mean, i was reading >> i mean, when i was reading the article in the daily mail, i thought, well, this is quite disparaging towards people my age. he references, age. and to me he references, well, previous candidates learning nothing them apart well, previous candidates learnexcuses. ng them apart from excuses. >> yeah, i did find it quite >> so yeah, i did find it quite offensive. but you know what? i do understand some extent do understand to some extent what by of work what he means by a lack of work ethic in z workers. but out ethic in gen z workers. but out there are smarter ways to work. and i think he doesn't necessarily consider that he started his career petticoat lane in his teens, selling leather goods. yes, that is hard work. that is a form of hard work. that is a form of hard work selling things at a market store. but nowadays we can find other ways to work and still make a lot of money. still be successful. i think dismissing different to make money be different ways to make money be entrepreneurial, run a business online. can i just say influencer ad expenditure? this year was £896 million. that's a lot of money going on tiktok , lot of money going on tiktok, instagram, x why is that being

dismissed as a commercially viable business in 2024? >> okay, let's just explain to people who don't know what gen z is . people who don't know what gen z is. millennial, can you just explain gen z ? what's gen z? explain gen z? what's gen z? >> gen z so anyone born between 1997 to 2012 is considered gen ? >> ?- >> okay, 7 >> okay, amani, what are you. i don't know what i am, which is probably testament to not knowing what gen z and millennials are. >> am a 1994 baby, so what >> i am a 1994 baby, so what does that make a millennial millennial? i am a fossil. >> what are you? >> what are you? >> i'm a millennial as well. >> i'm a millennial as well. >> yes, a millennial. >> yes, a millennial. >> okay, what do you think >> okay, so what do you think about tiktok is an integral >> i think tiktok is an integral part of having online awareness, and i do appreciate that point of the commercial element to it. i think it's one of the most cost efficient , authentic, cost efficient, authentic, organic ways of reaching your target audience . and i also target audience. and i also think there's something to be said about working smarter, not harder. if you can monetise tiktok and make money from videos in your bedroom , um, videos in your bedroom, um, which might sound might sound bad. um if you can monetise that

, then more power to you. that's an impressive thing. however, i do think there is merit to what lord sugar is saying because i think tiktok is at risk of breeding a generation of young people who who are in a deficit of real world experience, you know , i think there's magic to know, i think there's magic to being out there and magic to the journey of the highs and the lows. and i'm not sure . tick lows. and i'm not sure. tick tock, tiktok. generations and those people will get the wealth experience that comes with that. >> do you think he's got a point when he's saying that that the tiktok generation, gen z are work shy, that they don't have that potentially that drive, that he potentially grew up with himself and, you know, grafting in petticoat lane in london? know, grafting in petticoat lane in think|don? know, grafting in petticoat lane in think ion? know, grafting in petticoat lane in think i think you have to >> i think i think you have to ask yourself, know, ask yourself, you know, once they down, can they put their phone down, can they put their phone down, can they walk into a room and pitch like their life depends on it? they walk into a room and pitch like they life depends on it? they walk into a room and pitch like they haveiepends on it? they walk into a room and pitch like they have thoseis on it? they walk into a room and pitch like they have those difficult can they have those difficult conversations have conversations or do they have the know, keep resisting? >> i think what we're doing here is making very sweeping generalisations about people that are z, because you that are in gen z, because you are to monetise or

are able to monetise tiktok or instagram that doesn't dismiss real life experiences and capabilities to work in a standard job that you might have now. i think if you're selling, i don't know, a hairbrush and that's your business. how is that's your business. how is that to selling that any different to selling your personality instagram? that any different to selling your are ;onality instagram? that any different to selling your are still ity instagram? that any different to selling your are still commercially|m? both are still commercially feasible, so what is the difference . difference. >> manson yeah, go. sorry. sorry, marnie. carry on. >> i think it's the proportionality element. >> like how much of your time are you investing into this facaded people could are you investing into this facanything people could are you investing into this fac anything they people could are you investing into this fac anything they wanteople could are you investing into this fac anything they want to3le could are you investing into this fac anything they want to3le > i think it depends on the person. so, for example, and i'm not just being biased about my kids, daughter, kids, but like my daughter, for example, tiktok fanatic, kids, but like my daughter, for exa|she's tiktok fanatic, kids, but like my daughter, for exa|she's really tiktok fanatic, kids, but like my daughter, for exa|she's really driven,: fanatic, kids, but like my daughter, for exa|she's really driven, reallyic, but she's really driven, really driven. sits and has driven. i mean, she sits and has full conversations with me about stuff. guess it depends on stuff. so i guess it depends on the person. if you're a driven person, use it to your person, you can use it to your advantage. interesting >> yeah, really, really interesting. have >> yeah, really, really interestiof . have >> yeah, really, really interestiof time. have >> yeah, really, really interestiof time. are have >> yeah, really, really interestiof time. are at1ave >> yeah, really, really interestiof time. are at the run out of time. we are at the end of the show, i'm afraid. but marnie swindells, the apprentice 2023 winner, and ryan—mark

parsons is very, very popular apprentice contestant out of series past, very good to have you both on the program this morning. thank so much for morning. thank you so much for your i know what z is your time. i know what gen z is and we know z is. and now we know what gen z is. yes, and is the correct way yes, and that is the correct way to pronounce it. by the way, i had a rude email few had quite a rude email a few weeks the american weeks ago. it's the american pronunciation, a like the pronunciation, a bit like the rapper thank you guys rapper jay z, but thank you guys at on at home for joining us on saturday morning live today. we will back same time, same will be back same time, same place z a brighter outlook with >> jay z a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news, weather forecast i'm craig snell. well looking ahead to the rest of this weekend for many areas in the north, it's going to be fairly unsettled. but in the south it looks like it's going to be a fairly dry one. and that's all down to this area of high pressure, which will keep things settled in the south further north, will come north, weather fronts will come in times, bringing in some in at times, bringing in some areas rain. this afternoon areas of rain. so this afternoon the rain generally confined across far north of

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