the outgoing chairman steps down. was this the right move though? kemi and then our to parents blame for their children's antisocial behaviour? sir starmer thinks so. the sir keir starmer thinks so. the labour leader has issued a war on jobs. i think we've heard that before, haven't we? and has asked parents to step up to prevent, disrupt behaviour prevent, disrupt his behaviour is the labour leader right though and admiral nelson is to be looked at through a queer lens during the queer history club night. i'm not making this up . hosted at the national up. hosted at the national maritime museum , but is this maritime museum, but is this just rainbow washing new phrase? there of british history ? but there of british history? but this show isn't just about me blathering on. it's all about you and your views. so let me know your thoughts on all of the stories in particular that nelson one. i'm curious about that one we'll be discussing today. email at gb views at today. email me at gb views at gb com or message me on gb news. com or message me on our socials at gb news. really simple, but shall look the

simple, but shall we look at the news headlines the lovely news headlines with the lovely ray addison ? ray addison? >> thank you dawn. good afternoon. it's 1:01. our top afternoon. it's1:01. our top stories defence secretary grant shapps says the uk remains under haunted by yesterday's illegal attack on hms diamond . the attack on hms diamond. the ministry of defence confirmed that the warship successfully repelled a houthi drone in the red sea . the vessel used its red sea. the vessel used its counter defence system to destroy the drone, avoiding any injuries to crew or damage to the vessel . it's the third the vessel. it's the third attempted attack on the royal naval vessel . the queen has naval vessel. the queen has visited the king as he spends his third day in hospital, following a procedure for an enlarged prostate , but it's her enlarged prostate, but it's her third visit since they arrived at the private clinic together on friday morning. yesterday, she spent three hours with her husband as he recuperates . king husband as he recuperates. king charles is said to be doing well after the procedure. the princess of wales is also at the

same hospital following abdominal surgery . charles rea, abdominal surgery. charles rea, former royal respondent for the sun, told us the support that the royal family is showing each other is comforting . other is comforting. >> normally we don't see royals turn up at a hospital when one of them is in hospital. apart from occasionally the queen visited prince philip in one of his longest stays in hospital, but it's nice to see that they are are behaving as they always are, like normal people. they're and i think this is showing, um, the way the royal family is now. and isn't it great to see a unhed and isn't it great to see a united royal family instead of the bickering that's been going on behind the scenes involving prince andrew kemi badenoch has told gb news that she asked the chairman of the post office to resign after she realised that there were problems with the board. >> henry staunton stepped down in the wake of the horizon. it scandal. the business secretary said the decision was by mutual consent after she explained to

him why she wanted new leadership . leadership. >> they've been having difficulties on the board and when i looked at it, i decided that given everything that's happened, given the renewed interest or the new interest in some cases into into the horizon scandal , we some cases into into the horizon scandal, we just some cases into into the horizon scandal , we just needed someone scandal, we just needed someone different . different. >> the united nations has fired nine members of staff following allegations that they were involved in the hamas october 7th attacks on israel . un 7th attacks on israel. un secretary—general antonio guterres says he will hold to account any un employee involved in acts of terror. 12 staffers have been implicated so far. another is confirmed dead and the identities of two are still being clarified . guterres is being clarified. guterres is urging countries to continue supporting the un refugee agency for palestinians after nine governments, including the united kingdom, paused their funding. mary eisen is from the international institute for counter—terrorism. she told gb news. it's a complicated situation in the bulk of the employees are the palestinian

refugees themselves , and as such refugees themselves, and as such it's very challenging trying to understand that difference that we have there , that they we have there, that they participate and are part of the palestinian people inside the gaza strip . gaza strip. >> and in this case, israel transferred hard core evidence of the actual participation of 12 employees in the attack on the government has reportedly granted refugee status to four rwandan uns, despite attempting to pass a new law declaring it as a safe country . as a safe country. >> three the observer says the rwandan citizens were handed asylum after their fears of persecution were ruled to be well—founded . one, a supporter well—founded. one, a supporter of rwanda's opposition party, was granted asylum just a day after the home office told the supreme court that the country was safe. the news comes ahead of a crucial week for the rwanda bill, as it gets debated in the house of lords.

bill, as it gets debated in the house of lords . protesters have house of lords. protesters have thrown soup at the mona lisa on display at the louvre museum in paris. two women wearing shirts with slogans that translated to food response crossed the security boundary and began shouting our farming system is sick , our farmers are dying at sick, our farmers are dying at work. the incident came as french farmers have been protesting for days against low profits and red tape. the leonardo da vinci painting, widely considered to be a masterpiece, is set behind three inches of protective glass and was therefore unharmed . two was therefore unharmed. two officers rescued camels and zebras and a miniature horse from a circus trailer blaze in the us state of indiana , a the us state of indiana, a caravan of long trucks were transporting the circus animals when a vehicle caught fire in the middle of the highway. police responding to the incident freed the animals and helped to keep them calm. as emergency services fought, the flames through the night, grant county sheriff's office says there was no harm to our furry

friends and applauded the officers for their compassion . officers for their compassion. well this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's get back to dawn . now let's get back to dawn. >> thank you very much , ray. >> thank you very much, ray. that last story is amazing, isn't it? right. let's get straight into our stories, shall we? now, after weeks of scandal, business secretary kemi badenoch has weeks. actually, it's years, isn't it? of scandal. business secretary kemi badenoch has said there is a need for new leadership at the post office. as the outgoing chairman steps down, encouraged to step down, i think is the word government officials say an interim will be appointed shortly and a recruitment process for a new chair will be launched in due course, in accordance with the governance code for public appointed agents. now joining me , i've got a fabulous panel for you today . they are going to

you today. they are going to disagree about everything. so it's going to be nice and spicy. nice sunday lunch you. nice hot sunday lunch for you. uh, gb news uh, join me now. is gb news political correspondent katherine forster. first, who is also very angry. i would like to say, but the panel are coming soon. don't worry. it's very exciting. catherine, are exciting. catherine, you are very angry, aren't you ? very angry, aren't you? >> um. we're talking about the post office door. >> we are talking about the post office first. but you are also very about another story. very angry about another story. >> . so we'll be talking >> oh, yes. so we'll be talking about later, we? about that later, won't we? um, yes. of the post yes. so in terms of the post office, the news that broke yesterday afternoon that the business had spoken business secretary he had spoken to the chairman of the post office, a man only in post since december 2022, and fundamentally by mutual agreement, he agreed to step down, although it was very clear when she was speaking to camilla tominey earlier that he'd had no choice. he was effectively sacked . um, she effectively sacked. um, she described the post office as an odd organised location. she said

it was in the public sector, but not quite. and it fulfils a unique role and it certainly does, because of course, it is publicly owned . royal mail, of publicly owned. royal mail, of course, was hived off and privatised some years ago , and privatised some years ago, and so the horizon scandal, which has been rumbling on now for some 25 years, the compensation will have to be paid in the short terms by us, the taxpayer , short terms by us, the taxpayer, though kemi badenoch has made it clear that she does expect fujitsu, the company that's made and operated the faulty horizon software system , to ultimately software system, to ultimately foot the bill. so these hundreds of postmasters that have been wronged over the last decades and it all came to a head, of course, with the itv drama mr. bates and the post office now kemi badenoch aukus speaking this morning, also said that the drama was not what had prompted the government action, although . the government action, although. so, you know, this has been

going on for a very long time. it did seem that week that after the drama aired, that suddenly the drama aired, that suddenly the government had gone into some sort of supercharged gear and action was very quickly taken . but in terms of the taken. but in terms of the compensation , when rishi sunak compensation, when rishi sunak had said that he wanted all the compensation paid out by the end of august , the business of august, the business secretary rowing back on that a bit, saying she wasn't going , bit, saying she wasn't going, going to set a timetable , but as going to set a timetable, but as soon as possible . um, and in soon as possible. um, and in terms of the post office itself, of course, this this man, henry staunton , wasn't in charge when staunton, wasn't in charge when these problems were going on. but there's a feeling that the culture in the post office has still really not changed. and we saw during the public inquiry , saw during the public inquiry, the post office bosses and fujitsu bosses not really doing themselves any favours. a culture, it seems, still , of culture, it seems, still, of trying to protect the company rather than doing what is right

for these postmasters that have been so wronged over many, many years . years. >> catherine henry's only been in the post since december 2022, hasn't he? absolutely nothing to do with what's been going on for, what, 20 years? basically, you know, the one thing that surprised me today, catherine, was that some post offices was that that some post offices are still using that system and they're still having problems with it. that's the bit i can't get my head round. all right, chemist, on what she's done okay, they needed a fall okay, i get they needed a fall quy- okay, i get they needed a fall guy. one's actually said guy. no one's actually said sorry lots people are sorry, but lots of people are still stuffing and some post offices still this system. >> yes, the system is still in use. a lot of the bugs have been removed , although apparently removed, although apparently some people still have issues with it. now, the government would have liked to have passed it over. i think there was some talk taking it over talk of amazon taking it over that has not been possible. so the contract has been renewed i think till end of 2025. but think till the end of 2025. but the problem is that fujitsu is one of only a few companies really in the world that have

this sort of capacity and, and fundamentally, the government going back to tony blair, back in the late 90s, were told that the system was faulty and there was a fujitsu whistleblower that said they knew it was a bag of something that i can't say at this time of the afternoon, but they in anyway, and they put it in anyway, and it was raised highest levels was raised at the highest levels of government. but they had nothing better . and basically, nothing better. and basically, politicians all stripes and politicians of all stripes and fujitsu bosses and post office bosses come out of this very, very badly because alan bates , very badly because alan bates, the post office sub—post office master at the centre of this, that really campaigned and has brought this to where it is now, had problems from the very early 2000 and new to that, there was a fault with the system, and yet the post office were prosecuting people right through into the mid 2010s, actively prosecute their own workers, knowing that there were flaws in the system. but just wanting to absolutely

astonishing. >> i'm very angry about this story. i will be very angry about it and i know, catherine, you've got a cracking story coming up you're angry coming up that you're angry about. we're holding on about. so we're holding on to that don't anywhere. that one. so don't go anywhere. don't miss catherine doing that. that's our political correspondent, the lovely katherine i've got katherine forster. now, i've got an even lovelier panel as well . an even lovelier panel as well. and today by the host and i'm joined today by the host of saturday, five albie amankona. hello joe. and the political commentator matthew stadlen. hello matthew always tells me off every time he works together. he tells me off. i can't you why, he does. can't tell you why, but he does. okay, my word for now okay, take my word for it now you've stop you've just heard what can stop it. that. you've just it. don't do that. you've just heard catherine has got to heard what catherine has got to say. gentlemen, if i can call you you make of you that. um what do you make of that? this chap has only been working post office since working at the post office since 2022. nothing do, 2022. it's got nothing to do, basically, happened. basically, with what happened. albie, make this ? albie, what do you make of this? >> all, can i >> well, first of all, can i just i thought kemi badenoch just say i thought kemi badenoch interview camilla tominey interview on the camilla tominey tom earlier this tom moore show earlier on this morning absolutely morning was absolutely excellent. she was excellent. i think she was really her skills as really showed her skills as a cabinet think cabinet minister and i think another that she's another another way that she's shown by taking

shown her skills is by taking she sense she was loyal she made sense and she was loyal to the prime minister, and she's actually on her job actually getting on with her job and business and trade and the business and trade secretary sole secretary is the sole shareholder the post office, shareholder in the post office, and she has made a difficult what sounds like a quite a difficult decision to get rid of the person that's currently running office, because running the post office, because she that he's the she doesn't think that he's the culture he's fostering culture that he's fostering at that right one that company is the right one for this post. horizon world that the post office is now having to run in. >> the only thing i would say are matthew that kemi, this are matthew is that kemi, this morning know, the morning saying, you know, the drama we all saw over the drama that we all saw over the christmas period, um, um, you know , mr bates, um, it has know, mr bates, um, it has nothing to do with the reaction that everyone i mean, i think she might be stretching that one a little bit. >> i was to a little bit. >> i was about to bring up that very as catherine said, very point as catherine said, the idea that kemi badenoch thinks that the government's action wants us to believe that the government's action in recent weeks, recent weeks was not prompted by this itv drama . not prompted by this itv drama. i mean, pull the other one. who does who is does she think we are? who is she us for? as for henry she taking us for? as for henry stourton, how can i possibly

comment whether he an comment on whether he was an effective chair or not? clearly badenoch thinks he wasn't. i think it's possible that there's some signposting to the public that there are changes happening, even though, as you point out, he's barely been in the in the job for very long. what i'm desperate to see, and i'm really glad, actually, that we are talking about this at the top show today, top of the show today, dawn, because we know how our media cycle works. one minute these subpostmasters are the most important beings in this important human beings in this country, perhaps on the planet . country, perhaps on the planet. and the next minute we're talking else. talking about something else. yes really vital that yes so it is really vital that the pressure is maintained on the pressure is maintained on the and the the government and the government's bill that they said they were going to introduce . they were going to introduce. rishi sunak said in the commons they were going to introduce. rishithat ak said in the commons they were going to introduce. rishithat is said in the commons they were going to introduce. rishithat is goingn the commons they were going to introduce. rishithat is going to he commons they were going to introduce. rishithat is going to actually|ons that that is going to actually have of desired effect. have the sort of desired effect. we're told that it will. i'm worried that that this compensation , there's no compensation, there's no deadline. yes. we know that deadunes deadline. yes. we know that deadlines are dangerous in politics, but i am desperate for these subpostmasters to get their compensation and to get it quickly and in full.

>> the thing is, abby, i mean, many of them are quite old. four of them, as we know, their of them, as we know, took their own during it and many of own lives during it and many of them quite now. they them are quite old now. they will probably never live to see justice. still justice. they are still suffering. this is life suffering. this this is a life sentence and of sentence for them and many of them i i was shocked to them i just i was shocked to hear this they hear this morning. they are still struggling system still struggling with the system that appear be that doesn't appear to be efficient. this one of efficient. still, this is one of the miscarriages of the biggest miscarriages of justice ever happened justice that have ever happened in almost a thousand people >> almost a thousand people were wrongly punished for something which they didn't do. it's absolutely appalling. i think matthew's absolutely right to ask question did take ask the question why did it take an drama for the government an itv drama for the government to a way ? the to act in a quick way? the government would argue that actually is something actually this is something that they've at for they've been looking at for quite some time, but they certainly behave in a much more quick after itv drama quick way. after the itv drama came . and just wonder why came out. and i just wonder why that the case. that was the case. >> it's an amazing >> yeah, it's an amazing coincidence . if that is the coincidence. if that is the case, isn't it? >> it's not a coincidence. all whole, whole scandal deeply offends. >> this is called gb news and this scandal i thank you. i nearly forgot it .

nearly forgot it. >> we will do that. >> we will do that. >> how would it been? a very unfortunate blank. no, but this offends the british sense of fair play. yes. we often are fair play. yes. and we often are ask ourselves, what does what does britishness mean? what are our values? one the our values? one of the things i think most us can agree on is think most of us can agree on is that we have a sense of fair play. i'm not going bring in play. i'm not going to bring in cricket, isn't cricket. cricket, it just isn't cricket. although just won although england have just won our but although england have just won ourthis but although england have just won ourthis has but although england have just won ourthis has really but although england have just won ourthis has really offended|t although england have just won ourthis has really offended us no, this has really offended us and our sense of justice and we need to see it through now. the pressure needs to be maintained by the media, by people across the country, that these the country, so that these subpostmasters get what they deserve. >> and i don't think the pressure just be on the pressure should just be on the government current government, the current government, the current government, pressure should government, the pressure should be party, the be on the labour party, the pressure should on pressure should be on the liberal democrats, the pressure should davey, who should be on sir ed davey, who i actually think who i actually wouldn't say sorry when he did an interview on a much lesser media channel. when i it media channel. when i watch it with an embarrassed interview and everyone with an embarrassed interview and their everyone with an embarrassed interview and their dog everyone with an embarrassed interview and their dog to everyone with an embarrassed interview and their dog to stand eryoneover and their dog to stand down over the most minor misdemeanour five people, not stood down people, he is not stood down

himself as a leader of the liberal isn't it liberal democrat, isn't it because talking a because as i was talking a moment the media moment ago about the media cycle, when he gave car cycle, and when he gave that car crash mean, i said crash interview, i mean, i said at the this should be used at the time, this should be used for politicians year after year, decade decade how not decade after decade on how not to interview. to give an interview. >> yet is in place. >> and yet he is still in place. now it may be that didn't do now it may be that he didn't do anything wrong. perhaps he didn't ask enough questions. there lot of people think there are a lot of people think he have asked more he should have asked more questions more probingly questions and more probingly than he certainly than he did. he certainly was not minister he not the only minister he absolutely was not that. and we know scrutiny on him, know the scrutiny was on him, partly because it election partly because it is election year is leader of the year and he is the leader of the lib dems. but my point about the media cycle is he seems to have got away it. got away. away with it. >> so he's not here to >> yes. so far he's not here to defend obviously we defend himself. obviously we keep him come you keep asking him to come and, you know, chat with us. but know, have a chat with us. but for seem for some reason he doesn't seem like i can't think why. like he and i can't think why. the thing would say, the only thing i would say, i was listening to a sub—postmaster morning sub—postmaster this morning talking, saying she talking, and she was saying she appears witnessing people appears to be witnessing people boycotting the post office, which, you know, you feel like you're angry with the post office, but the people running the is still there ,

the post office is still there, going to lose their jobs and have offices closed have their post offices closed down. us out there down. if we or us out there boycott so crazy . boycott them. so that's crazy. >> i mean, that is not it's absolutely not right thing absolutely not the right thing to do no , absolutely. to do, to do no, absolutely. >> boycott the politicians. >> boycott the politicians. >> how about boycotting the conservative government dawn, and not voting tory at the next election? >> but it's not the tories fault , is it? this is this is this is something which has been implemented and supported by the tory government or tory lib dem government, a labour government. this is not the current tory government's fault. this is a multi—decade mess up that all parties involved are to blame. >> but just to come back on that, because dawn said we were going to disagree. and i do disagree some extent disagree with you to some extent on because you were saying on that, because you were saying that davey, i mean that ed davey, i mean effectively right effectively that it was right that spotlight shone on that the spotlight was shone on him told everyone him because he told everyone else him because he told everyone els

quickly as they claim to be acting moment, because acting at the moment, because of an drama. acting at the moment, because of an oh drama. acting at the moment, because of an oh ,irama. acting at the moment, because of an oh , lama. acting at the moment, because of an oh , i don. acting at the moment, because of an oh , i do love a good punch up. >> don't go anywhere. there's lots more of this coming up and it talking about it stops him talking about cricket minutes, which it stops him talking about criazet minutes, which it stops him talking about cria very minutes, which it stops him talking about cria very good minutes, which it stops him talking about cria very good thing,es, which it stops him talking about cria very good thing, believeh is a very good thing, believe me. although it was a magnificent da da da magnificent victory. da da da da da. right for all da. thank you. right now for all the and opinion on the best analysis and opinion on that story. and more even better than two, to than these two, go to our website you're website gb news. com you're watching and listening to gb news with neesom. news p&o with me dawn neesom. lots coming on today's lots more coming up on today's show. parents to blame for show. are parents to blame for their children's anti—social behaviour , as sir keir starmer behaviour, as sir keir starmer thinks he might have a thinks so, and he might have a point, all that to point, might need all of that to come you're watching and come out. you're watching and listening gb news, britain's listening to gb news, britain's news channel. i'll put the kettle don't go too far

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saying i'm angry about. i'm allowed angry about this allowed to be angry about this and should angry, and we all should be angry, shouldn't we? four people took their um, let's their lives, remember? um, let's have john john. have a look. let's. john john. good thank for good afternoon. thank you for watching. still watching. john um, still not enough slow. enough action. and all too slow. there go . very much so. there you go. very much so. start prosecuting some of the staff that were involved. not now , not two years time. now, and not in two years time. of a tv drama of course. it was a tv drama that created reaction does she of course. it was a tv drama that the ted reaction does she of course. it was a tv drama that the public ction does she of course. it was a tv drama that the public for»n does she of course. it was a tv drama that the public for fools?as she take the public for fools? exactly what matthew said, wasn't it? meanwhile, ian. good afternoon office afternoon ian. the post office is an entirety should be run as a co—operative. this business model business model works model work business model works well provides model work business model works well services provides model work business model works well services doesn'ts essential services but doesn't necessarily and necessarily run a profit. and richard on the post office says ed needs to well . he ed davey needs to go well. he calls for everyone else to go. doesn't he? um, he was a minister in charge of the biggest scandal in modern history, and i think that just about sums it up. although, as i keep saying, he's not here to defend himself because when he tries to defend he tries to defend himself, he messes on. messes up. now we're moving on. these very excited about these two are very excited about this. one. parents blame this. one. are parents to blame for antisocial for their children's antisocial behaviour? sir keir starmer thinks labour leader has thinks so. the labour leader has issued yobs and has

issued a war on yobs and has asked to step up to asked parents to step up to prevent disruptive behaviour . prevent disruptive behaviour. this is all part of his plans to crack down on crime. that sounds familiar, doesn't it? he has vowed create zero tolerance vowed to create zero tolerance zones anti—social behaviour zones for anti—social behaviour by adding 13,000 extra neighbourhood police officers and pcsos as part of community policing guarantee . we didn't policing guarantee. we didn't quite explain how he was going to do any of that. that's my problem with story . problem with this story. matthew, we're coming to you first you said you were first because you said you were very excited by one. very excited by this one. >> i'm just i'm really we feel incredibly about incredibly strongly about it. and had and that's because i've had personal of it. when personal experience of it. when you young a young you have a young family, a young sorry . come now. sorry. come on now. >> have thought . >> have a thought. >> have a thought. >> no, listen, you told me i wasn't allowed to tell the viewers why i get cross with you , right? >> we haven't got long enough show. go on, get on with it. >> so we have it. we have. when you have a young family, you care feel this so much care and you feel this so much more. antisocial more. if you have antisocial behaviour in your area. when i was man, just. does it was a single man, just. does it matter much? but we've had

matter so much? but we've had experience of it and you see it happening afraid happening and i'm afraid parenting at the heart of it. parenting is at the heart of it. one one child, if he goes off the rails, even at a young age, in their early teens , you can in their early teens, you can see the change in that child from a sort of the sort of person who will say hello to you when they get back from school to bringing around almost gangs of the effect that of people, and the effect that that have on a street, the that can have on a street, the effect can have on effect that that can have on a small community within london, central london, is enormous. central london, is, is enormous. and you can see the impact of the parenting, i'm afraid the other point is, and this is, i hope, what keir starmer is getting to, we desperately need to have a more visible police presence because families can think, well, what can we do about it? if the parents aren't stopping it and you don't want to be calling 999 the whole time, what do you do? we have to build relationships with our local police forces . one other local police forces. one other very quick thing, and i do think this is important. you remember the new labour slogan . the new the new labour slogan. it was tough on crime and tough

on the court. get tough on crime. the causes of crime. tough on the causes of crime. tough on the causes of crime. so yes, we need to be tough on yobs , but we also need tough on yobs, but we also need tough on yobs, but we also need to try as well as with parenting as a as a society, we need to try to get young kids off the streets, give them more things to do and you will know, dawn, how deeply we our investment in youth services across this country have been cut. >> so i get all that. i get all that. albie but what i don't understand, i mean, you know, keir starmer is, you know, he's talking a tough speak. you know, we're going to do everything we can. to can. parents have got to do that. it's going be down that. and it's going to be down to community as what to the community as well. what does going to be does he mean by it's going to be down community? down to the community? i mean what mean. all right. what does that mean. all right. parental responsibility. we all agree important. i agree that is so important. i know big sort of like, know you're a big sort of like, you know, parents should take more their more responsibility for their kids, the kids, but it's down to the community as what does he community as well. what does he even but this is the even mean? but this is the problem starmer. problem with keir starmer. >> he means >> no one knows what he means when says anything. i mean, when he says anything. i mean, matt talking tough on matt was talking about tough on crime, the causes of crime, tough on the causes of crime. reminds me, crime. this all reminds me, reminds of asbos anti—social

reminds me of asbos anti—social behaviour were behaviour orders. and they were brought in in 1998 when tony blair came into power. what use were they? we're still talking about anti—social behaviour in teenagers 20 or 30 years later, and the situation doesn't seem to have got any better. we have had and the labour party , yes, had and the labour party, yes, and we have. and we had labour in for 13 years before in power for 13 years before that. the point that i'm that. so the point that i'm making is the that i'm making is the point that i'm making is the point that i'm making is the point that i'm making is that nothing has making is, is that nothing has improved either the tories improved with either the tories in power or the conservatives in power, and we're still having a conversation about troubling youth behaviour . and the leader youth behaviour. and the leader of the opposition doesn't seem to have any specific solution other all need. some other than all we need. some community engagement. matt, do you seriously think that if there were more community centres open have of centres open, we'd have less of a problem with with youth crime? >> he's talking about more officers, isn't he, well? officers, isn't he, as well? i mean, it. of mean, that's part of it. part of it. let's not let's not ignore mean, that's part of it. part of it.afforded. let's not ignore mean, that's part of it. part of it.afforded. well not ignore mean, that's part of it. part of it.afforded. well let'signore mean, that's part of it. part of it.afforded. well let's just 'e mean, that's part of it. part of it.afforded. well let's just be it afforded. well let's just be completely clear about this. the conservatives have cut police officers by 20,000. >> now got those policemen back.

men and women back. >> they've started to bring them back. they're all back. >> the earlier last year the population has risen. >> not enough just to >> so it's not enough just to replace has replace that 20,000 that has a crushing effect on communities. i am not someone who wants to be soft on crime . if people disrupt soft on crime. if people disrupt their neighbourhoods , they need their neighbourhoods, they need to right justly. for to be treated right justly. for that to happen, we need to have a visible police force. but it isn't just about punishment . isn't just about punishment. it's not just about fixing the problem when it exists. it's about officers who can relate and engage with their local communities before things go wrong. so that people have a line to their police force. and more than that , it is also about more than that, it is also about making sure that there are ways for our young people to occupy themselves when they might otherwise be starting to join gangs or causing miserable existence for their neighbours. >> but what gives you hope, matt? that if and when labour win power later on this year, when the tories inevitably lose, that any labour plan for

policing is actually going to improve the situation, because we look at sadiq khan's record in london while the rest of the country, we have seen crime fall since 2010. in london we've seen the opposite, with labour in charge of policing. >> hang on, are you saying there aren't serious and entrenched issues knife even issues of knife crime and even gun in like gun crime in cities like manchester and birmingham? it's so finger at so easy to point the finger at sadiq not sadiq khan and i'm not particularly a defender of sadiq khan, but this much more khan, but this runs much more deeply mayor of london. deeply than the mayor of london. what you're what you seem to be suggesting to the viewers this afternoon, abby, that afternoon, abby, is that we should all hope should just abandon all hope because have stuffed because the tories have stuffed it say can it up. let's just say it can never be fixed. let's be optimistic. let's try optimistic. instead, let's try to get a grip on this because, as i've said, the impact of anti—social behaviour on communities, on individual families is horrendous. but what gives you hope was my question that keir starmer is going to be able to tackle this any better than the tories? i'll tell you what gives me hope. i think he's

got his priorities roughly in the right place. we heard from him even him months ago, perhaps even a year two ago, talking about year or two ago, talking about the smell hash his own the smell of hash on his own street in his own community. street or in his own community. i live in west i get that where i live in west london, it is disgusting. if you've a young child you've got a young child smelling weed when you come back from a night out or even in the morning, that's just not acceptable. we need to try to get a grip on this. this man ran the cps. yes, of course he didn't get everything right, but the cps. yes, of course he didhasget everything right, but the cps. yes, of course he didhas at everything right, but the cps. yes, of course he didhas a trackything right, but the cps. yes, of course he didhas a track record right, but the cps. yes, of course he didhas a track record ofiht, but the cps. yes, of course he didhas a track record of goingt he has a track record of going after criminals , of holding them after criminals, of holding them to account. so yes, i do have hopein to account. so yes, i do have hope in him. but you talk about the smell of hash and yet you support sadiq khan, who flew over on a vanity trip to to new york talk about decriminalising drugs . i'm york talk about decriminalising drugs. i'm not someone who does believe in decriminalising drugs, but you support sadiq khan , you support sadiq khan . khan, you support sadiq khan. >> do you or don't you? >> do you or don't you? >> i certainly vote for him over susan. he support. i think she's got clue about what she's got a clue about what she's doing. think weakest doing. i think she's the weakest conservative mayoral candidate. that the that is plausible that the tories but i'm tories came up with. but i'm not a spokesman. i'm

a labour party spokesman. i'm certainly not a sadiq khan spokesman. i think that spokesman. but i do think that keir has a track record keir starmer has a track record largely to be proud of , keir starmer has a track record largely to be proud of, and keir starmer has a track record largely to be proud of , and that largely to be proud of, and that he will try to grip this. he might not it right. it's not might not get it right. it's not going be easy for labour. going to be easy for labour. it's not going to be for easy labour with tax and spend. it's not going to easy for labour not going to be easy for labour to the to work out how to make the green economy motor. there are so getting so many challenges getting a grip boats and all the grip on the boats and all the rest of it. having a fair asylum system actually works. system that actually works. it isn't robust. isn't cruel, but it is robust. these are all big challenges that not away. on that will not go away. but on this get it right. this i hope he can get it right. >> well, let's hope can >> well, let's hope he can actually, because no one wants crime get worse. they? crime to get any worse. do they? in cities or in rural areas. and keir starmer is suggesting antisocial behaviour dissolved in every area . you fancy being in every area. you fancy being one of those. let us know won't you? because i don't i might i might sign up. oh good luck to your area. right. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom plenty more coming on today's plenty more coming up on today's show. check show. but first, let's check out the headlines ray the news headlines with ray adelson . thanks dawn.

adelson. thanks dawn. >> it's 133. adelson. thanks dawn. >> it's133. our top stories . >> it's 133. our top stories. two teenage boys have died after a stabbing attack in bristol. the 15 and 16 year olds were attacked in the south of the city yesterday morning . avon and city yesterday morning. avon and somerset police say a group of people fled the scene by car . people fled the scene by car. both boys died in the early hours of this morning. a 44 year old man and a 15 year old boy have both been arrested and remain in custody . defence remain in custody. defence secretary grant shapps says the uk remains undaunted by yesterday's illegal attack on hms diamond . a ministry of hms diamond. a ministry of defence confirmed that the warship successfully repelled a houthi drone in the red sea. the vessel used counter defence systems to destroy the drone, avoiding any injuries or damage. it's the third attempted attack on a royal naval vessel . the on a royal naval vessel. the queen has visited the king as he spends his third day in hospital, following a procedure for an enlarged prostate . it's

for an enlarged prostate. it's her third visit since they arrived at the private clinic together on friday morning. yesterday, she spent three hours with her husband as he recuperates . king charles is recuperates. king charles is said to be doing well after the procedure. kemi badenoch has told gb news that she asked the chairman of the post office to resign after she realised that there were problems with the board. henry staunton stepped down in the wake of the horizon it scandal, while the business secretary that the decision secretary said that the decision was by mutual consent. secretary said that the decision was by mutual consent . after she was by mutual consent. after she explained to him why she wanted new leadership . and protesters new leadership. and protesters have thrown soup at the mona lisa on display at the louvre museum in paris. two women wearing shirts with slogans that translated to food response crossed the security boundary and began shouting that the farming system in france is sick . the incident came as french farmers have been protesting for days against low profits and red tape. the leonardo da vinci painting is actually set behind protective glass and was

therefore unharmed . you can get therefore unharmed. you can get more on all of those stories on our website , gb news.com . thank our website, gb news.com. thank you very much, ray. >> lots more coming up on today's show. uh, the us is planning to station nuclear weapons three times as strong as the hiroshima bomb in the uk , the hiroshima bomb in the uk, amid a growing threat from russia . are we heading for russia. are we heading for another cold war? but let's. oh, this link is rubbish. but first, let's take a look at how cold the weather is with greg. >> hello there. and greg dewhurst, welcome to your latest gb news, weather, looking ahead the week ahead it stays rather unset and we'll see some rain and strong winds at times. best of the dry weather will be in the south and looking at the bigger picture for the next few days. area low pressure days. this area of low pressure will some heavy rain across will give some heavy rain across the of the uk. the central swathe of the uk. met office warnings force for met office warnings in force for this, also a windy end this, and it's also a windy end to day across the north

to the day across the north west. weather front just west. this weather front just slowly its way south slowly sinking its way south eastwards through this evening and overnight. but it will start to heavier later on. drier to turn heavier later on. drier either side, though quite murky across southeast england. clear skies scotland. skies across scotland. temperatures here falling below freezing countryside , so freezing in the countryside, so patchy frost here. elsewhere and mild start to monday morning, particularly in the southwest. but a wet start across parts of wales up into northern england, perhaps of snow over perhaps even a bit of snow over the highest ground here. and this rain doesn't go anywhere through day, generally stays through the day, generally stays here. amounts building through the day. there could be some localised issues here localised flooding issues here either side. sunshine across northern ireland, scotland cloudier skies further south and temperatures here 14 or 15 celsius a little bit cooler behind the rain across the north and the west as we take a look at tuesday, we can see the overnight rain starts to clear away but leaves a legacy of cloud across england and wales , cloud across england and wales, a frosty start across scotland and northern ireland, but brightening up with sunny spells here. looking ahead, it generally stays rather cloudy

and unsettled for most of us. see you . soon welcome see you. soon welcome back to gb news sunday with me dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. >> now america is set to station nuclear weapons at a british base. nuclear weapons at a british base . pentagon documents base. pentagon documents revealed that raf lakenheath in suffolk would host the warheads that are reportedly three times as powerful as the hiroshima bomb . joining as powerful as the hiroshima bomb .joining me now is as powerful as the hiroshima bomb . joining me now is former bomb. joining me now is former senior military intelligence officer philip ingram. to explain more on this story. philip, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. good afternoon. don um, philip, i'm old enough to remember when there were nuclear weapons stored, um, bases in this stored, um, at bases in this country. what what do you make of development ? right. of this development? right. >> so am i. um, you know, >> well, so am i. um, you know, these. it's the us forward deploying some capability and dispersing it from the different sites that they've got ,

sites that they've got, recognising the tension that there is across the globe. um, and making sure that the capability to maintain the deterrence that nuclear war or nuclear warheads have given us ever since the us use of them in japan at hiroshima and nagasaki, um , uh, is maintained. no matter um, uh, is maintained. no matter what happens. military or geopolitically, elsewhere. now this is the i think it's 15 years, isn't it, that we haven't had the, the american nuclear warheads on british soil. >> what what sort of message do you think this sends out to russia ? russia? >> yeah. well, 2008 i think was whenever the last ones were withdrawn, these particular weapons that are coming in are air dropped bombs . so from the air dropped bombs. so from the aircraft that are flying of aircraft that are flying out of lakenheath the us can lakenheath or that the us can forward base in lakenheath. and since nationally they since nationally we say they they are significantly larger than hiroshima , the type of bomb than hiroshima, the type of bomb its yield can be dialled from a point about 0.3 of a kiloton and

hiroshima was 15 kilotons, up to 50 kilotons. um, it sends this deterrent. um, it's sending a very clear message to vladimir putin in particular that if you try to do anything against europe and nato , you're the europe and nato, you're the ultimate, um , weapon system is ultimate, um, weapon system is available and is safe. so even if you consider pre—emptive strikes against where they're being stored in the united states or elsewhere, there's enough of them around. and, um, and we're not just relying on the really big intercontinental ballistic missiles that are part of our on sea deterrent, 24 seven there are other smaller weapons available that you will stop you using smaller weapons if you even think of doing it. >> so you think this is a very necessary thing. it needed to happen. >> i think it's important message. you have to remember that military capability is not just about going out and making things go bang all the time, or shooting it's much shooting people. it's as much about diplomacy as anything else. and the weapons only have to be used when diplomacy fails. so a military capability

so having a military capability sends a message. it's a deterring message. and i think that's what this is all about. >> okay, rich, uh, philip, just one final question for you . um, one final question for you. um, at davos last month, it was revealed iran enriching revealed that iran is enriching uranium and is very, very close to having nuclear, uranium ready within weeks. evidently. how scary is that ? scary is that? >> um, very scary indeed . you >> um, very scary indeed. you know, and i think iran cosying up to russia at the same time that north korea has been cosying up to russia in supplying the shahed 136131 drones north korea providing drones and north korea providing lots of ammunition, the payback for that wouldn't surprise me if that's nuclear technology . and that's nuclear technology. and this statement at davos is could be a cover , um, to hide the fact be a cover, um, to hide the fact that russia may have transferred some nuclear technology to iran. if that gets into iran , you if that gets into iran, you know, israel in the past has already said will carry out already said it will carry out pre—emptive against, um, pre—emptive strikes against, um, iranian nuclear facilities, nuclear technologies, the last thing we want is a state like iran gaining nuclear weapon capability, because that will be

gloves off, i think in the middle east. >> ooh, philip, thank you very much for joining that's much forjoining us. that's philip ingram former philip ingram, a former senior military intelligence officer. um not very reassuring , i have um not very reassuring, i have to say, albie, look , i wouldn't to say, albie, look, i wouldn't be surprised if there were lots of viewers and listeners at home listening to the news over the past week and really being quite concerned for the direction of travel at the moment. >> we heard from general sir patrick was patrick sanders. i think it was earlier on last week, and of course, johnson as well. course, boris johnson as well. talking about conscription and how know, young brits should how you know, young brits should be ready to fight if they're ever for the draft . ever called up for the draft. now us , uh, now we have the us, uh, stationing nuclear warheads in suffolk. okay. there is precedent for that. they did do that up until 2008, but these are just conversations that we've not had in this country in my entire lifetime . and i just my entire lifetime. and i just turned 30. you spoke about what it was like when the cold war was happening and the concerns that lots of people have. this is just these aren't things that have been the mind have been within the mind capacity people recently. and

capacity of people recently. and i think it's quite worrying that it's back. but as well, i think it's quite worrying that it's back. but as well , what it's back. but as well, what does give me comfort is that it does give me comfort is that it does seem that governments are preparing for this kind of thing , and that this threat is being taken seriously. and i think we need continuing that need to be continuing that serious tone going forwards. >> what do you make of it? i echo a lot of what albie said. >> there. i just i think you're wrong on one thing and that, but only, only marginally. that only, only marginally. and that is invaded is that when putin invaded ukraine for the second time, was it now as long ago as two years ago? now i'm losing touch. i was two years ago, wasn't it? yeah. it's extraordinary how time flies and it's your age. but of course, on a serious note, the suffering that has just on suffering that has just gone on and on and on for the ukrainians and on and on for the ukrainians and for those russians sort and also for those russians sort of into combat and of forced into combat and horrific but when horrific conditions. but when that happened, i think we were starting remember spectre starting to remember the spectre of nuclear war weren't we? we're wondering whether putin was bad enough, perhaps mad enough to do something on that scale and

plunge the world into a nuclear crisis? i remember 1718, when i was studying history at school, learning all about that, that cuban missile crisis that my parents lived through. and, you know, people of our age now would go to bed not necessarily knowing whether we were going to wake up. i don't think that was the fear. >> you were told to hide under the table or shut yourself in. >> you were told to hide under the �*it)le or shut yourself in. >> you were told to hide under the “it was r shut yourself in. >> you were told to hide under the “it was terrifying. rself in. and it was terrifying. >> look, my instinct and what >> so look, my instinct and what is my instinct but is my instinct worth? but i don't we're quite there don't think we're quite there yet. have to remember yet. but we have to remember that we are dealing with a monster in the form of putin, who has done ruthless and despicable things. one hopes that the russians, for all putin's badness and for all that his authoritarianism in russia, that there is a checks and balances system that is sufficient to stop him from doing the ultimate thing. but what what this is the return of these weapons, since for the first time since 2008, or whatever it is to british soil, is a reminder that for all this

talk of getting people ready for a ground war, for all this talk of our navy, not quite being properly equipped nuclear weapons are the are the ultimate answer to okay, honestly, we have got some fun stuff coming up, including snogging. >> um , admiral nelson is to be >> um, admiral nelson is to be looked at through a queer lens dunng looked at through a queer lens during the queer history club night, as the national maritime museum. but is it just rainbow washing british history? find out after this break. i'm dawn neesom and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel

news. the people's channel, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> okay, let's talk snogging, shall we? welcome back to gb news sunday with me dawn neesom on your tv, online and on that their digital now admiral their digital radio. now admiral nelson be looked at nelson is to be looked at through a queer lens. no. me nehhen through a queer lens. no. me neither. during the queer history club night hosted at the national maritime museum. uh, the event will explore a range imagined narrative on nelson and his final words. kiss me, hardy . his final words. kiss me, hardy. so i'm sure he didn't say it like that. but suggesting a deeper connection with vice admiral thomas hardy, this modern approach to history supports a broader trend, as seen in actor danny stefani's recent interview today. he touched on actors playing historical roles and the potential of a black actor playing winston churchill . oh, playing winston churchill. oh, right. well, i've still got my

marvellous panel with me, matthew stadlen and albie amankona. i'm going to come to you first on this one, albie, what you make , first of all, what do you make, first of all, of rainbow washing ? is that is of rainbow washing? is that is that the phrase? >> i think the phrase is pink washing pink, actually, to be precise. you it's precise. so now you know, it's pink washing. not they've got more know , i know, more colours. i know, i know, but um, to on the nub of your question. i do just find a question. i do just find it a little bit hard get outraged question. i do just find it a little igay ard get outraged question. i do just find it a little igay sailorsjet outraged question. i do just find it a little igay sailors or outraged question. i do just find it a little igay sailors or potential about gay sailors or potential gay sailors. i mean, come on, are we really supposed to get animated started by historians looking back at history and thinking of sailors who were out at sea for months , if not years at sea for months, if not years on end? all men . and we're on end? all men. and we're supposed to get outraged that maybe historians are now saying there might a little there might have been a little bit man on man and is there bit of man on man and is there perhaps something in perhaps there is something in this hardy phrase that this kiss me hardy phrase that lord nelson is thought to have said. last thing that he said. the last thing that he said, you know, there a love said, you know, there was a love triangle between lord, lord, lord william lord nelson, sir william hamilton wife, lady emma hamilton and his wife, lady emma hamilton. who knows? you hamilton. so, so who knows? you know, that's something

know, maybe that's something which um, but he which did happen. um, but he also didn't have a reputation of being a bit of a player , i think being a bit of a player, i think is polite word of putting it. >> and he was very passionate with the lady hamilton. >> what i enjoy about this story is looking it's a thing, to be honest with you, but go on looking again at a british hero. and for readers of the sun. and now for viewers of gb news i'm sure very up on their history anyway. but to look again at admiral nelson, one of the great british heroes who, along with wellington, won those extra ordinary victories against the french. and this is a look , so french. and this is a look, so long as it's not sensationalist , long as it's not sensationalist, as long as it is done right, reasonably and with proper intent . proper historical intent. proper historical intent. proper historical intent. why not try and look at what the reality of his sex life was like ? gives a different was like? gives a different angle, a different way in for people to understand history. as far as what he was saying about sailors, i went for the bbc on to a destroyer very much in the news. now with what's going on with the houthi rebels in the

red but i went aboard red sea. but i went aboard a destroyer and spent a night or two on on board 14 years ago. and i'm a straight man, and i have to say, i mean it nearly it nearly turned me gay . nearly turned me gay. >> hold on, hold on. >> hold on, hold on. >> i might have tuned out a bit there. so you went on a boat for how long? >> two or 2 or 3 days. a couple of long. >> made it out of me. >> made it out of me. >> i look, i question my sexuality not because of any engagement with sailors, but there in this sort of six. there i was in this sort of six. there was six bunk, six to there was six to a bunk, six to a bunk bed. i mean, in the a bunk bed. i mean, not in the same bed, but there were these two bunk beds six sailors same bed, but there were these two bu tight.is six sailors same bed, but there were these two bu tight. it six sailors same bed, but there were these two bu tight. it was six sailors same bed, but there were these two bu tight. it was a six sailors same bed, but there were these two bu tight. it was a veryailors in this tight. it was a very homoerotic environment. and i thought myself, well, maybe thought to myself, well, maybe i am wrong with with am gay. nothing wrong with with wondering about one's own sexuality, there? mean, sexuality, is there? obe i mean, it's fine. >> i'm i'm kind of speechless by that. so it's. >> this is the point. >> well, this is the point. >> well, this is the point. >> this is the point that i'm trying to make. why are we getting so shocked and sensationalising the prospect of there being gay sailors in the past, there probably were gay sailors in the past. what we

shouldn't is shouldn't be doing, though, is rewriting . i think that rewriting history. i think that is wrong, but i think looking at history which which history in a way which which which whether or not which questions whether or not everything that we've heard about the that sailors about the way that these sailors stories these these figures stories or these these figures from history stories has been put whether or not put across, whether or not that's actually true, and looking for the truth of looking at it for the truth of what was of the what the history was of the time, is some debate time, there is some debate whether he actually said, kiss me, hardy , which kismet me, hardy, which kismet means it's for or it's turkish for fate or destiny. >> w- destiny. >> word really wasn't >> but that word really wasn't in common usage. so we probably won't ever know. but how do we feel about black churchill? >> you story? i think >> you see this story? i think this is a little bit more clear cut . i this is a little bit more clear cut. i personally this is a little bit more clear cut . i personally think it would cut. i personally think it would be ridiculous for a black actor to play winston churchill. the same way. i think it would be ridiculous for a white actor to play ridiculous for a white actor to play kwame nkrumah. and this is what this actor has said. he basically said, look, i think he what this actor has said. he basi

>> quick, quick word. i know you never but just one never do it quick, but just one quick from you, churchill quick word from you, churchill obviously cannot be played by a black man in my view, but almost everything else within literature , within, within drama. >> yes . almost any shakespearean >> yes. almost any shakespearean character . yes. but if you're character. yes. but if you're you wouldn't get a white person to play a major black figure in the slave trade. i don't think we should have a black churchill . right. >> okay. >> okay. >> can't we talk about this for longer? >> this is such a good topic. >> this is such a good topic. >> it is a brilliant one. but you've got to shut up now , right? >> you're watching and listening to gb news thunder dawn to gb news thunder with me. dawn neesom more coming up on neesom lots more coming up on today's show. but first, let's take at weather with take a look at the weather with greg brighter greg zahawi a brighter outlook with solar , the sponsors of with boxt solar, the sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there and greg dewhurst , welcome to your latest gb news weather. looking ahead the week ahead, it stays rather unsettled . we'll see some rain and strong .we'll see some rain and strong winds at times. .we'll see some rain and strong winds at times . the best of the

winds at times. the best of the dry weather will be in the south. looking bigger south. and looking at the bigger picture for the next few days, this of pressure this area of low pressure will give heavy across the give some heavy rain across the central swathe the met central swathe of the uk met office in for office warnings in force for this and it's also a windy end to day across the north to the day across the north west. weather front just west. this weather front just slowly sinking its way south eastwards through evening eastwards through this evening and overnight but start and overnight. but it will start to turn heavier . later on. drier to turn heavier. later on. drier either side though quite murky across southeast england. clear skies across scotland. temperatures here falling below freezingfrost here. elsewhere patchy frost here. elsewhere a mild start monday morning, mild start to monday morning, particularly south—west mild start to monday morning, partaularly south—west mild start to monday morning, partaularlstart south—west mild start to monday morning, partaularl start across th—west mild start to monday morning, partaularl start across partsest mild start to monday morning, partaularl start across parts of but a wet start across parts of wales up into northern england, perhaps bit of snow over perhaps even a bit of snow over the and perhaps even a bit of snow over the rain and perhaps even a bit of snow over the rain doesn't and perhaps even a bit of snow over the rain doesn't go and perhaps even a bit of snow over the rain doesn't go anywhere this rain doesn't go anywhere through the day, generally stays here. through through the day, generally stays hereday through through the day, generally stays hereday could through through the day, generally stays hereday could be through through the day, generally stays hereday could be some through through the day, generally stays hereday could be some localised the day could be some localised flooding here either flooding issues here either side. sunshine across northern ireland, scotland cloudier skies further south and temperatures here 14 or 15 celsius a little bit cooler behind the rain across the north and the west. as we take a look at tuesday, we

can see the overnight rain starts to clear away but leaves a legacy of cloud across england and wales , a frosty start across and wales, a frosty start across scotland and northern ireland, but brightening up with sunny spells here. looking ahead , it spells here. looking ahead, it generally stays rather cloudy and unsettled for most of us. see you soon! >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers spotty hours of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> thank you very much, greg. lots more coming up on today's show. foreign students are able to buy their way into competitive degree courses as top universities are paying middlemen to screw overseas students . our universities students. our universities selling out british kids. though all of that and much , much more all of that and much, much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel, on wonderful sunday afternoon. on a wonderful sunday afternoon. hope you enjoy it.

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competitive degree courses as top universities are paying middlemen to recruit overseas students . are our universities students. are our universities selling out british kids? though? then in what is seen as a loophole , convicted terrorists a loophole, convicted terrorists will be continued to entitled to social housing individuals with criminal records, including terror offences, qualify for social housing. they meet specific , specific criteria . but specific, specific criteria. but why on earth is going on here? why won't ministers strip those convicted of certain crimes? the right to social housing when we've got brits and veterans homeless on our streets, it doesn't make any sense. and it seems rishi sunak will try anything to win the next election from solely targeting the to asking his the over 50s to asking his bearded mps to shave because they look more electable . all they look more electable. all they look more electable. all the world's gone mad, but is that enough to win an election and your vote? this show is nothing you though, nothing without you though, and your please get in touch your views. please get in touch with thoughts on all the with your thoughts on all the stories discussing today. stories we're discussing today. email me gbviews@gbnews.uk .

email me at gbviews@gbnews.uk. com or message me on our socials. we're at gb news. but first, here's that news with the lovely ray addison . lovely ray addison. >> thanks, dawn. good afternoon. it's 2:01. our top stories a murder probe has been launched after two teenage boys died following a stabbing attack in bristol . well, the 15 and 16 bristol. well, the 15 and 16 year olds were attacked in the south of the city yesterday morning . avon and somerset morning. avon and somerset police say a group of people fled the scene by car. both boys died in hospital in the early hours of this morning. a 44 year old man and a 15 year old boy have been arrested and they remain in custody. we defence secretary grant shapps says the uk remains undaunted by yesterday's illegal attack on hms diamond . the mod confirmed hms diamond. the mod confirmed that the warship successfully repelled a houthi drone in the red sea . the vessel used her

red sea. the vessel used her counter defence system to destroy the drone, avoiding any injuries to crew or damage . this injuries to crew or damage. this is the third attempted attack on royal naval vessels in recent weeks . the queen has visited the weeks. the queen has visited the king as he spends his third day in hospital, following a procedure for an enlarged prostate , but it's her third prostate, but it's her third visit since they arrived at the private clinic together on friday morning. yesterday, she spent three hours with her husband as he recuperates , king husband as he recuperates, king charles is said to be doing well after the procedure. the princess of wales is also at the same hospital following abdominal surgery . charles rea, abdominal surgery. charles rea, former royal correspondent for the sun, told gb news the support that the royal family are showing each other is comforting . comforting. >> only we don't see royals turning up at a hospital when one of them is in hospital. apart from occasionally the queen visited prince philip in one of his longest stays in hospital, but it's nice to see that they are behaving as they always are, like normal people.

they are , and i think this is they are, and i think this is showing , um, the way the royal showing, um, the way the royal family is now. and isn't it great to see a united royal family instead of the bickering that's been going on behind the scenes involving prince andrew kemi badenoch has told gb news that she asked the chairman of the post office to resign after she realised that there were problems with the board. >> henry staunton stepped down in the wake of the horizon on it scandal. the business secretary said that the decision was by mutual consent after she explained to him that she wanted new leadership . new leadership. >> they've been having difficulties on the board and when i looked at it, i decided that given everything that's happened, given the renewed interest or the new interest in some cases into the horizon scandal, we just needed someone different . different. >> the united nations has fired nine members of staff following allegations that they were involved in the hamas. october seven attacks on israel . un seven attacks on israel. un secretary—general antonio guterres says he will hold to

account any un employee involved in acts of terror. 12 staffers have been implicated so far. one has been confirmed dead and the identities of two others are still being clarified. guterres is urging countries to continue supporting the un refugee agency for palestinians after nine governments, including the uk, paused their funding . miri eisin paused their funding. miri eisin is from the international institute for counter—terrorism . institute for counter—terrorism. she told us it's a complicated situation given the bulk of the employees are the palestinian refugees themselves , and as such refugees themselves, and as such it's very challenging thing to understand that difference that we have there , that they we have there, that they participate and are part of the palestinian people inside the gaza strip . gaza strip. >> and in this case, israel transferred hard core evidence of the actual participation of 12 employees in the attack on the government has reportedly

granted refugee status to four rwandans, despite attempting to pass a new law declaring it as a safe country . safe country. >> the observer says the rwandan citizens were handed asylum after their fears of persecution were ruled to be well—founded . were ruled to be well—founded. one, a supporter of rwanda's opposition party, was granted asylum just a day after the home office told the supreme court that the country was safe. the news comes ahead of a crucial week for the rwanda bill, as it gets debated in the house of lords . protesters have thrown lords. protesters have thrown soup at the mona lisa on display at the louvre museum in paris. two women wearing shirts with slogans which translated to food response , crossed the security response, crossed the security boundary, began shouting our farming system is sick! they also said that farmers are dying at work. the incident came as french farmers have been protesting for days against low profits and red tape. the leonardo da vinci painting widely considered to be a

masterpiece, is actually set behind three inches of protective glass and was therefore completely unharmed and in the states , two officers and in the states, two officers rescued camels and zebras and a miniature horse as well, rescued camels and zebras and a miniature horse as well , from miniature horse as well, from a circus trailer blaze in the us state of indiana , a caravan of state of indiana, a caravan of long trucks were transporting the circus animals when a vehicle caught fire in the middle of the highway. police responding to that incident freed the animals and helped to keep them calm. as emergency services fought the flames through the night, grant county sheriff's office says that there was no harm to our, quote. furry friends , and they applauded the friends, and they applauded the officers for their compassion given out. >> here is a county. >> here is a county. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get back to gb news .

sunday. >> thank you very much . camels >> thank you very much. camels are hairy, not furry, aren't they? any case, i mean, if you don't get a camel story in at least one news bulletin a day, you're not doing it right, are you? thank you. >> uncomfortable, by the way, being on a camel. >> asked you ? >> who asked you? >> who asked you? >> speak when you're spoken to a young man. any case, thank you very much, ray. more camel stories up and also stories coming up and also matthew stadlen coming up as well. sorry that. now, well. sorry about that. now, foreign are able buy foreign students are able to buy their way into competitive degree as top degree courses as top universities are paying middlemen to recruit overseas students . courses that require students. courses that require an a or an a star grade from british students have accepted foreign students with c grades at gcse . international students at gcse. international students pay at gcse. international students pay much higher fees than british students and are gaining places on courses through the back door routes . now places on courses through the back door routes. now i'm places on courses through the back door routes . now i'm really back door routes. now i'm really annoyed about this story. my lovely niece was the first girl in our family to go to university and work blooming hard to there, so it strikes hard to get there, so it strikes me really unfair that kids me as really unfair that kids from come in and from abroad can come in and get those places, even though they

haven't the haven't got anywhere near the qualifications, the a—levels they now is gb they need. joining me now is gb news political correspondent katherine forster. catherine what's going on here? >> yes , this is a big >> yes, this is a big investigation by the sunday times today revealing that some of our most elite university city's russell group ones like bristol, like durham, like notting , um, have basically two notting, um, have basically two tiers for admitting students. so to give you just one example, if you're wanting to study economics at bristol, if you're a uk student, you'd need a star, a uk student, you'd need a star, a but if you're coming from abroad , you would only need abroad, you would only need three c's. now that would get you on a foundation year. basically a year to, to, to bnng basically a year to, to, to bring you up to speed. in theory . some of them also offer this gateway onto these very prestigious degrees. if you've got literally a handful of gcses at c grade, you can even start at c grade, you can even start at age 16 or 17, potentially

without a—levels at all. now, of course , this is part of the course, this is part of the reason this is happening is because universities are simply strapped for cash . tuition fees strapped for cash. tuition fees have only gone up by about £250 for british students since 2010, from . 9000 to 9250. however from. 9000 to 9250. however foreign students pay 2 or 3 times that amount of money, so this is really big business and what a lot of these universities are doing is they're using middlemen. they've got agencies right throughout the world, actually, they're actively recruiting students to come from abroad because they're making so much more money. now, the sunday times basically had a sting operation with a couple of reporters posing as parents, and they pretend that they had a foreign student at a boarding school in the uk that was only going to get a get a couple of

c's and d's at a—level. now that would rule them out from people at the same boarding school. british students who'd be expected to get all a's. but these reporters were told, no, no, no, that's absolutely no problem because there's this pathway for foreign students and you can get in. you'll come out with the same degree at the end of it. now, of course , there'll of it. now, of course, there'll be many parents. i imagine , be many parents. i imagine, watching that think that that is very, very unfair. and aunties like me, catherine, just one very quick question here, because they are getting more foreign students in, as you say, you know, sometimes paying 38,000, 39, £40,000 for those courses compared to the £9,000 british students pay, does that mean less british students are getting on the courses, or is it still the same allocated amount? well that's not clear. there is no cap on on english places, though there is in scotland . but though there is in scotland. but clearly university does only have a certain capacity in the number of people that they can

fit in lecture halls. the number of people they can accommodate, the numbers have surged. and what we've seen quite often now the numbers have surged. and quniversitiesen quite often now the numbers have surged. and quniversities giving:e often now the numbers have surged. and quniversities giving places! now the numbers have surged. and quniversities giving places to )w is universities giving places to people and then not having the accommodation to put them up, and the ridiculous situation of people in first year that told that can't actually stay in that they can't actually stay in the city, they're studying in, and to commute from and they have to commute from somebody somewhere maybe 15, 20 miles away. so if you up the numbers, you do increase the pressures . and my goodness, it's pressures. and my goodness, it's astonishing looking at these numbers. and of course, these are pathways many universities his rather less prestigious do offer foundation years for british students. but these ones that the sunday times is talking about specifically are ones that are only available to foreign students . um, are only available to foreign students. um, coming in not to british students at all. so that is an option that british students, if they don't get the a—a grades that these institutions require and they simply can't go to these places.

but if you're coming in from abroad or in fact, you've got a passport from abroad and you're at a british boarding school, perhaps you can take this route . perhaps you can take this route. and one of the middlemen said , and one of the middlemen said, you know why? why take the hard route when you can take the lift 7 route when you can take the lift ? you can go in through the back doon ? you can go in through the back door, basically. that's terrible. >> it sounds grossly unfair, catherine. thank you very much. katherine news, katherine forster gb news, political correspondent. thank you know what you very much. let us know what you very much. let us know what you this. i'm angry. you think about this. i'm angry. vaiews@gbnews.com now. and my lovely panellists are here with me. i am joined today by host of the saturday five albie amankona. thank you very much. the abby and political the lovely abby and political commentator matthew stadlen. thank much , matthew. thank you very much, matthew. sunday are sunday afternoon and they are here me. how lovely. now here with me. how lovely. now what i mean, i'm angry about this. as i said, niece was this. as i said, my niece was the girl in her. know, the first girl in her. you know, you guessed. you might have guessed. not difficult first difficult to work out. first girl to go to girl in our family to go to university. she worked damned girl in our family to go to univeto ty. she worked damned girl in our family to go to univeto getshe worked damned girl in our family to go to univeto get herworked damned girl in our family to go to univeto get her a—levelamned girl in our family to go to univeto get her a—level results. hard to get her a—level results. how is it fair someone how is it fair that someone coming from abroad with coming in from abroad with with bog results? because bog standard results? because they can afford the £45,000 gets that that that place? matthew

>> so i think your question to catherine really catherine was actually a really good this impact the good one. does this impact the number of places for british students? my concern about students? yes my concern about this is that the headline grabs all the attention . it's one of all the attention. it's one of those stories that if we dig a little bit deeper, isn't perhaps as straightforward . and the as straightforward. and the reason i say that is because british fees or fees for british students are capped at whatever they are, 9200 and something, isn't it? yeah, yeah. which is a hell a lot more than i had to hell of a lot more than i had to pay hell of a lot more than i had to pay when i was at university all those ago. i it was those years ago. i think it was about £1,000. so it's tough. make about it. but the make no bones about it. but the fees paid some of fees that are paid by some of these international students in these international students in the 30s or 40,000, that money then does go a lot of it. 20% may be to fees for these finders, which i find a bit weird and distasteful, but i hope and suspect the bulk of it gets ploughed back into the university to improve at least that's the idea to improve the services, therefore, that the teaching and everything else, the facilities that are then

available to british students. so it's a bit more complicated than it might at first appear. >> albee , i take the point that >> albee, i take the point that matthew was making, and it's a point that i thought about quite carefully myself , but ultimately carefully myself, but ultimately i'm a meritocrat and i believe in meritocracy, and i think it is absolutely appalling that we're supposed to have the best university sector in our world. >> it's something we're meant to be punching above our weighting when it comes to international league but actually all league tables, but actually all of that is a lie because some of the international students who we over are not we are getting over here are not actually the brightest and the best in the world. quite often you will hear government ministers talking about student immigration say, oh, immigration and they'll say, oh, it's the brightest and best it's the brightest and the best students around the world students from around the world that the uk and that want to come to the uk and study here and then contribute to their economy. to their our economy. these aren't brightest the aren't the brightest and the best students around the best students from around the world. these the richest world. these are the richest students around the world. students from around the world. and they're contributing and fine, they're contributing to tax and they're to our tax system and they're contributing our university contributing to our university system got system because they've got all of money, but they're not

of this money, but they're not really enriching universities with than money, with anything other than money, because not very clever . because they're not very clever. imagine you'd all of this imagine you'd spend all of this time go time working really hard to go to university like edinburgh or oxford . first person in oxford or leeds. first person in your family to go to university like your niece. i believe. and then you find out that one of your course mates has come over from or india, and from hong kong or india, and just because they're rich , just because they're rich, they've got in on the equivalent of three c's. when you've worked your three years, your bottom off for three years, well, your bottom off for three years, weland she did work very hard as >> and she did work very hard as well. i'm so if you're well. what i'm so if you're sitting i didn't go to university. i keep saying this, but you probably don't need telling. used to did, telling. i'm used to both did, didn't you? telling. i'm used to both did, did i t you? telling. i'm used to both did, did i did,j? telling. i'm used to both did, did i did, yes. >> i did, yes. >> i did, yes. >> um, but >> i did, yes. >> okay, fine. um, but if you're sitting in a lecture and you've got somebody there who who who's scraped in with a couple of o—levels or gcses from from elsewhere in the world, and you've worked hard to get your three stars, does that mean that the level of the lecture and the teaching you're getting will have slightly? have to be dumbed down slightly? i mean, it's conceivable the only argument for this in its

favour is the one i've already articulated that if it can somehow drive up the standards of teaching , if it can somehow of teaching, if it can somehow provide more money for infrastructure, for books, for libraries, for all that sort of stuff, other, other facilities as well, then you can sort of start to see the point of it. >> i was at university, there was there was a sprinkling of international students. i think they definitely did enrich my experience. i wasn't asking them how clever they were or what sort of grades they got and what doesn't lie is the results themselves. they don't lie, do they? so universities will be careful. one would think that they don't want to water down they don't want to water down the end results of degree results that they are producing. >> i'd like to the other point here. i'll be quickly running out of time, but the other point is, i mean, if you've got these students that clever, students who aren't that clever, but they're just rich, okay? as matthew for but they're just rich, okay? as matfacilities. for but they're just rich, okay? as matfacilities. but for but they're just rich, okay? as matfacilities. but it's for but they're just rich, okay? as matfacilities. but it's dumbingyr the facilities. but it's dumbing down that university down the results that university achieves. and go on sort achieves. and if we go on sort of like a, you know, a league table of what university kids want to, and they're

want to go to, and they're not getting results getting such great results anymore for can't it, how anymore for how can't it, how can't it dumbed the can't it dumbed down the university experience for everyone and the university everyone and make the university experience for the people experience worse for the people who hard the who have worked hard to get the grades that weren't that kind of university? >> if you have class where 50% >> if you have a class where 50% of students got three stars, of the students got three stars, or aab and the other 50% are internationals, but they got three ds or ccd , then obviously three ds or ccd, then obviously the university lecturer is going to have to dumb down the entire class to cater for everyone. so you think the end result you would think the end result would be a lower quality degree, less despise more academics, so that you have more teachers actually teaching in the class sizes at universities. >> shrink. i mean, that is the counterargument, but have counterargument, but i have a lot sympathy your concern. >> yeah, we don't know the answer to that one the answer to that one about the size classes which we size of the classes and which we are now for all the best are right now for all the best analysis on that, analysis and opinion on that, even better than two who analysis and opinion on that, eve brilliant. han two who are brilliant. >> be honest. um, go to >> let's be honest. um, go to our website gb news. com um, you're watching and listening to gb with me. dawn gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom more coming up neesom and loads more coming up on today's show. why on today's show. now, why on earth ministers strip

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specific criteria . this includes specific criteria. this includes being over 18. a british citizen residing in the uk, a foreign citizen eligible for benefits or a foreign national with eligibility. ministers have confirmed that as per proposals, individuals convicted of terror offences will not be deprived of the right to social housing. now we have a homelessness problem in this country , don't know we in this country, don't know we have. we have army veterans sleeping on our streets, so i've still got matthew stadlen and albie ancona with me to talk about this story. albie ancona with me to talk about this story . albie, what do about this story. albie, what do you make of this one? >> look, i think there'll be a lot of listeners and viewers at home who will be absolutely outraged at this story. they'll be thinking, i know people who are the social housing queue. are on the social housing queue. i'm on the social housing queue myself. i've got kids who are paying myself. i've got kids who are paying exorbitant amounts in rent. why why convicted rent. why why are convicted terrorists precedence terrorists getting precedence over law abiding citizens? over these law abiding citizens? and that is an outrage , and i'm and that is an outrage, and i'm outraged with them. but actually, the reason why there is a housing crisis in this

country is not because they're a convicted terrorists that need social housing. it is because we have a 4 million house shortage of housing in this country , and of housing in this country, and we have not built enough social housing in this country since margaret thatcher's right to buy. and actually , the anger, buy. and actually, the anger, instead of being directed at these convicted criminals. yes we should be angry at them for the crimes they've committed. the anger should the the anger should be at the conservative government, the labour coalition labour government, the coalition government for doing absolutely sweet absolutely, sweet fanny. absolutely, absolutely nothing sweet. fanny adams on the housing crisis. they've done nothing and they need to do better. that is what this story fundamentally is about. we need more houses. we need them now. >> i mean, it's surely there >> but i mean, it's surely there should be some way of prioritising who gets this social housing. matthew. and that doesn't seem to be the case.i that doesn't seem to be the case. i mean, i'm sorry, i don't want a terrorist living next door to me. what can i say? >> yeah. we don't want a terrorist living on the street at the end of our road either. the question is, where do these

people go ? and can. look, it's people go? and i can. look, it's a complicated story, and i've tried understand it. and it's tried to understand it. and it's about spent spent sentences and unspec sentences. if you commit a sufficiently serious terror offence and all terror offences are serious, but if it's sufficient serious, it can never be unrwa unspent or rather, it can never be spent. the complication it is complicated where do we put these people if they are entitled to stay in this country? but like albie , i this country? but like albie, i have huge empathy for people who are on these waiting lists. yeah, and like albion, it's easy for us to sit in a studio and say, this, but there has been repeated failures in this country to build sufficient housing. that must be addressed by keir starmer. if he becomes prime minister. we've heard so much talk , haven't we? and so much talk, haven't we? and so little action. it is urgent. it is for easy people, not just those actually languishing on social housing lists, but for all of us to point the finger at

nasty people , people who've done nasty people, people who've done really dangerous or damaging things to this country. but actually, let's look beyond the headunes actually, let's look beyond the headlines again and work out what will really affect change. because don't forget, there aren't that many people who have committed terrorist offences hanging around. it's not as though by denying them access to this house, that somehow we will solve this housing problem. and i'll say this well, solve this housing problem. and i'll say this well , there is i'll say this as well, there is no way that this government, desperate hand off reform and desperate to hand off reform and there electoral threat at the upcoming election , would have upcoming election, would have looked at this and said, okay, let's just give terrorists housing when don't need to. housing when we don't need to. they've they've obviously they've really they've obviously looked and decided that it looked at it and decided that it has happen. has to happen. >> we need, gentlemen, is >> what we need, gentlemen, is really good, strong prime minister, okay, whichever political persuasion, some like, oh, i don't know, someone like winston churchill, which brings me neatly back to the story. we didn't have time to discuss earlier on sounds clever. i did that myself. by the way. that wasn't written a producer. wasn't written by a producer. um, this is an interview with

danny who great danny sapani, who is a great actor tackle actor who's preparing to tackle king the amelia theatre king lear at the amelia theatre in and he is saying in london. and he is saying there's black actor there's no reason a black actor cannot play churchill. but it needs to work. both ways. now, do you agree with mel b? >> no , i don't agree with him, >> no, i don't agree with him, actually . actually. >> look, i think it's perfectly reasonable to say as an actor, you're a bit of a luvvie. oh reasonable to say as an actor, you're a bit of a luvvie. on in an ideal world, it would be great if black actors could play, uh, churchill and white actors could black actors could play black historical like kwame historical figures like kwame nkrumah, who was the first president of ghana, the first country in africa to become independent. but in an ideal world, wouldn't that be perfect? we don't live in an ideal world, and it would be absolutely preposterous to ghanaians if kwame nkrumah was to be played by a white actor in a major biopic . just as it would be biopic. just as it would be preposterous to brits if winston churchill was to be played by a black actor in a major biopic. >> now the point, i mean, danny sapani, are you saying? to be fair, he's saying works both fair, he's saying it works both ways. know, you can ways. i mean, you know, you can have a black actor playing

churchill. you can a, you churchill. you can have a, you know, actor playing know, a white actor playing a famous figure famous black historical figure because you're acting, you're being you're not. it's being someone you're not. it's pretending . basically. now pretending. basically. now i personally think that if the skin colour is nothing to do with the story you are telling, say, martin luther king, rosa parks exactly where their blackness very much intrinsic part of their story , then part of their story, then obviously that has to be a black actor playing that role . actor playing that role. however, i mean, what's a bridgerton is that they have colour—blind casting, so i mean, surely danny sapani does have a point, does he? >> so it's going to bring up this, this of boom in this, this sort of boom in historical dramas, right? or there was a black anne boleyn recently as well, wasn't there? >> channel 4. >> channel 4. >> so look, we've had i think we've woman, fiona shaw, we've had a woman, fiona shaw, play we've had a woman, fiona shaw, play richard the play richard i! or richard the third. remember third. i can never remember which. fantastic experiment which. and fantastic experiment try should there, should there be a white othello ? i mean, if be a white othello? i mean, if you want to try it and you're trying to make a clever or interesting point or challenge

the role, then fine . but the role, then fine. but essentially when it is a strictly, it is a strictly historical drama, particularly of relatively recent times , like of relatively recent times, like a churchill, it's or a martin luther king. it seems to me that that might be distracting. having said that, right, as soon as you get into a drama , if it's as you get into a drama, if it's well done, if it's well acted and well directed, well filmed , and well directed, well filmed, if it's on the telly and so forth, we suspend our disbelief quite easily and you start to look beyond that pretty quickly, i think, oh, i don't think you do. >> i mean, we had in doctor who, we had sir isaac newton, played by a person of colour. there was a channel for prince andrew comedy, awful comedy, musical, which they had about his, about his interview with with emily maitlis and prince charles was played by a black actor and it was just ridiculous. i mean , my was just ridiculous. i mean, my belief was not suspended. i just thought, who are these idiots playing these white characters who we all know , who were white

who we all know, who were white historical figures ? i think if historical figures? i think if it's a fiction like bridgerton , it's a fiction like bridgerton, i think that's totally different. do what james different. bond. do what james bond, you like with. bond, do what you like with. >> otherwise black actors will not in. not get a look in. >> that's true at all. >> that's not true at all. >> that's not true at all. >> was going say. >> what i was going to say. there many historical there are so many historical dramas were last we there dramas and we were last we there were there was a black, there dramas and we were last we there were black was a black, there dramas and we were last we there were black was a bin:k, there dramas and we were last we there were black was a bin this1ere were black people in this country centuries, country for centuries, but we were a white society . were largely a white society. and if we're going to have this fascination, fine fascination, absolutely fine with sort of costume with these sort of costume dramas, the idea that we can't have actors them have black actors playing them would utterly no would be utterly absurd. no actually, what we have to do is tell the stories from those penodsin tell the stories from those periods in history properly. >> we look at the crown, for >> if we look at the crown, for example , which this actor example, which this actor played, nkrumah in, in a played, kwame nkrumah in, in a brilliant episode with the queen and kwame nkrumah, where she went to ghana and dance with this black for this black president for the first a big first time. it was a big historical if you historical event. if you actually record the history and show it in art properly , you show it in art properly, you will see that there are black people that were real in those situations . we don't need to go situations. we don't need to go around pretending . do you think

around pretending. do you think that people got it wrong? we don't know. i think bridgerton is so i think fiction don't know. i think bridgerton is different. so i think fiction don't know. i think bridgerton is different. sythink nk fiction don't know. i think bridgerton is different. sythink theiction don't know. i think bridgerton is different. sythink the crown, is different. i think the crown, however, displaying however, actually displaying history international history and international relations with black leaders and white leaders and asian leaders is the right thing to do. i don't think pretending that different leaders were different colours weren't which colours when they weren't, which is , is is historically inaccurate, is the right thing to do. we should be telling the truth. the right thing to do. we should be ielling the truth. the right thing to do. we should be i agreethe truth. the right thing to do. we should be i agree with'uth. the right thing to do. we should be i agree with you on that. but the right thing to do. we should be iisgree with you on that. but the right thing to do. we should be iis howwith you on that. but the right thing to do. we should be iis how far] you on that. but the right thing to do. we should be iis how far] yotextendlt. but the right thing to do. we should be iis how far] yotextend thith how is how far you extend this logic? because is logic? because bridgerton is a fiction, but still fiction, but it's still representative period of representative of a period of time . time. >> it's fiction. made up, >> it's fiction. it's made up, it's make believe. there was never a lord and lady bridgerton that didn't happen. whereas winston churchill that did happen. winston churchill that did happen . and we know that he was happen. and we know that he was white because he's from one of the great aristocratic families of this country. >> so you would with me >> so you would agree with me and you'd agree with me, therefore, shakespeare, therefore, that shakespeare, a black play anyone, black actor, could play anyone, even some those plays even though some of those plays are historic. >> do you know what fiction means, matthew? >> shakespearean >> some of the shakespearean plays on history, but plays are based on history, but it's well , so is historical drama

>> well, so is historical drama involving churchill. >> that's that is on some level a fiction because it's an interpretation. >> i have no issue at all with dramas like bridgerton, which is made up, make believe having black princes and princesses and lords and ladies who are asian. that's not what about him at all, play by shakespeare. but if you. but if you play. you. but but if you play. >> oh, i'm going to have to interrupt you and i really don't want because enjoying want to, because i'm enjoying this. just here doing >> i'm just sitting here doing nothing, >> i'm just sitting here doing nothrilliant. thank you. it's brilliant. um. thank you. we on, though. we have to move on, though. you're and listening you're watching and listening to gb sunday dawn gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom coming up on neesom plenty more coming up on today's these two. today's show. more of these two. but the news with but first, here's the news with ray addison . ray addison. >> thanks, dawn. it's 232. our top stories a murder probe has been launched after two teenage boys died following a stabbing attack in bristol. the 15 and 16 year olds were attacked in the south of the city yesterday morning . avon and somerset morning. avon and somerset police say a group of people

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the post office to resign after she realised that there were problems with the board . henry problems with the board. henry staunton stepped down in the wake of the horizon it scandal . wake of the horizon it scandal. the business secretary said the decision was by mutual consent , decision was by mutual consent, after she'd explained to him why she wanted new leadership . you she wanted new leadership. you can find more on all of those stories on our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you very much . welcome >> thank you very much. welcome back to gb news sunday with me, dawn neesom them on your tv, onune dawn neesom them on your tv, online and on digital radio now. loads of you have been getting in touch. i love reading your thoughts so please do keep them coming of you are coming in. so lots of you are getting very excited and i love that just about black that debate just now about black churchill obviously and churchill acting. obviously and some you got in touch about some of you got in touch about that. good afternoon. that. stephen good afternoon. stephen. a black man stephen. um, if a black man played churchill, played winston churchill, i would watch it and enjoy would still watch it and enjoy seeing how it. i also seeing how he did it. i also like one bridgerton. like season one of bridgerton. see, have problem see, people don't have a problem there. audrey, you're see, people don't have a problem

thethe audrey, you're see, people don't have a problem thethe side audrey, you're see, people don't have a problem thethe side ofudrey, you're see, people don't have a problem thethe side of this(, you're see, people don't have a problem thethe side of this one,|'re on the other side of this one, aren't you? uh, why can't we just leave history where is just leave history where it is and it is without and what it is without dissecting under dissecting everything under the microscope nonsense? i microscope of wokery nonsense? i love that word, wokery, don't you? and let's. oh, yeah, and also lots on, um, on lord nelson and kiss me. hardy or kismet? hardy gene says lord nelson's words were kismet. hardly. which means fate hardy. but that word didn't come into use until pretty much after that. that's the problem . um, steve, um. good the problem. um, steve, um. good afternoon , steve said. it afternoon, steve said. it doesn't mean he was queer because of kiss me, hardy . we because of kiss me, hardy. we might have just been a friend. i mean, andrew says, uh, queer is the atypical against the norm. anti—establishment? no son did not follow convention. he was having an affair with his best mate's wife as well, wasn't he? he ignored orders, he also ignored orders, reportedly when reportedly with humour. when ordered to do stuff on the signal , he ordered to do stuff on the signal, he held the ordered to do stuff on the signal , he held the telescope to signal, he held the telescope to his eye, waiting for the his bad eye, waiting for the signal never see. thank signal he can never see. thank you much. see what mean? you very much. see what i mean? we've viewers and we've got great viewers and listeners. much for listeners. thank you so much for getting thoughts on getting all your thoughts on that. now we move another

that. now we move on. another story. united has story. the united nations has fired nine members staff fired nine members of staff following allegations that they were the hamas were involved in the hamas october attacks israel . october 7th attacks on israel. 12 staffers had been implicated so far. another is confirmed dead, and the identities of two are still being clarified . are still being clarified. following the allegations, the chief of the un agency for palestinians has said he's shocked by the uk's decision to join a other countries, including finland , the us, including finland, the us, italy, australia and canada, to pause funding for the un muara commission . general philippe commission. general philippe lanza has spoken out, saying the decision to halt the funding threatens our ongoing humanitarian work across the region, especially in the gaza strip . well, gentlemen , this is strip. well, gentlemen, this is one of those stories where you 90, one of those stories where you go, what? hold on. so people doing a human humanitarian effort were involved in what hamas did on october the 7th. that sounds a bit mad. >> i mean, it's not as quite as bonkers as you might think

because as i understand it, a lot of these un workers are actually palestinian themselves. and there clearly has been some very, very bad apples. and the united nations has to look very, very hard at it. who who's going to lose out as a consequence of this ? ordinary palestinians , this? ordinary palestinians, including women and children who've got nothing to do with hamas , the humanitarian hamas, the humanitarian situation in the gaza strip, as we know. and don't forget, at its narrowest point, we're talking about a bit of land that's sort of or 5 miles that's sort of 4 or 5 miles wide, actually, the concern about disease, about starvation and so forth. the people who will lose as a consequence of this , and these were very bad this, and these were very bad people got involved in in people who got involved in in october the 7th, are ordinary palestinians. it is tragic beyond belief . beyond belief. >> so are you suggesting, matthew , that because the people matthew, that because the people who are going to be impacted by by this, we should continue funding the un mewara who's some of their employees? it is

alleged, were involved in a terrorist attack . terrorist attack. >> are you suggesting that we simply abandon un nearly 2 million people, maybe more than 2 million people, to starvation, to disease? how are we going to help these people? the whether we like it or not, that particular organisation is one of the principal vehicles , as of the principal vehicles, as i understand it, they're employing . terrorists by by not not knowingly by which aid reaches. >> oh, that's all right then. not knowingly. oh that's fine. >> all for women and >> it's all right for women and children to starve to death. >> i'm sure will other >> i'm sure there will be other organisations can be organisations that money can be funnelled help. while organisations that money can be funnellecross, help. while organisations that money can be funnellecross, for help. while organisations that money can be funnelle cross, for example, while the red cross, for example, medecins sans frontieres, for example, are global example, there are other global organisations that can help with aid in that region. region but it absolutely right that the it is absolutely right that the uk government, us government uk government, the us government , i think italian government , i think the italian government as there is other as well, there is other governments the world governments around the world have this have stopped funding this organisation, has organisation, which has potentially employed the terrorists who caused this very crisis in the first place. >> i'll be one of the problems with what's happening in gaza

is, is such an incredibly dangerous place to be. it is a dangerous place to be. it is a dangerous place to be. it is a dangerous place to be for journalists. we've seen an astonishing number of people killed who have been in our profession and it is a dangerous place for aid workers. my concern as well as trying to ensure that october 7 is never repeated , ad is that the people repeated, ad is that the people who are suffering and struggling through no fault of their own in gaza at the moment, are helped. every single person involved in october the 7th, if they're anywhere near such an aid organisation, obviously they need to be rooted out. i've got no sympathy for these terrorists, the medieval terrorists, for the medieval barbarity that we witnessed on october the 7th. but let us not forget that there are 2 million people in gaza in desperate need i >> -- >> but if there were 12 of them going back to your point, albie, how do we know they're not more? how do we check whether they are involved in terrorism or they are genuinely, you know , are genuinely, you know, involved in humanitarian aid ? involved in humanitarian aid? >> well, i think what actually

this shows is that clearly there has been quite a series mistake in the processes, the hiring processes at this un organisation. how can a un organisation. how can a un organisation this is this is the united nations. this is an institution that was set up in the 20th century after the war, andifs the 20th century after the war, and it's now potentially employing terrorist acts. i mean, how the mighty have fallen. >> well, we know that there are massive problems with the united nafions massive problems with the united nations just look at who's on the security council . all we the security council. all we know, all this , but i come back know, all this, but i come back to this core point. the people who will be hurt by this are those living or trying to live in gaza at the moment. it is an incredibly dangerous place to be. people hundreds of thousands of human beings with the same aspirations as all of us have on this panel. and as viewers at home squashed into tiny, tiny pockets of land with all the resulting risks of disease and hunger and so forth . and the hunger and so forth. and the

reason i think the united nafions reason i think the united nations have had this problem, and it is a shocking problem. of course it is. let's make no bones about it, is because they seem have been forced by seem to have been forced by circumstance employ people on circumstance to employ people on the ground themselves. palestinian some of whom tragically , horrifically, who tragically, horrifically, who had sympathies for the barbaric organisation that is hamas, which started this awful mess in the first place. >> not going back hundreds of years. we know all that. but this particular one, it's just just a mess, right? okay. we do have to move on though. uh, lots more today's show. more coming up on today's show. it seems rishi sunak will try anything to win the next election from solid targeting the over 50s to asking his bearded mps to shave because they look more electable . this they look more electable. this is what we've come to. but is it enough to win? would that get your vote? a beardless mp ? all your vote? a beardless mp? all of that and much more to come. i'm neesom you're i'm dawn neesom and you're watching and listening to gb news, channel. news, britain's news channel. don't .

7:00. this evening. gb news the people's . channel. people's. channel. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. now amidst a challenging year for the tories speculation circles about whether prime minister rishi sunak stands a chance of winning the election . chance of winning the election. reports suggest that rishi sunak is actively engaged in a strategic mission to enhance the

lives of the over 50s. that's me, by the way. uh recognising the significance in securing these crucial votes, this comes as a senior conservative mp recently removed his facial hair over the decision, allegedly stems from advice that beards, moustaches are perceived as a turn off for voters . camilla turn off for voters. camilla tominey spoke to tory frontbencher kemi badenoch about current tory infighting . current tory infighting. >> people have to do what is in their conscience and actually what is really interesting is that having disagreements about, uh, what we should do on a bill is seen as a sign of a party infighting, when actually we're thinking people have different views. we have a vote, and a collective view is presented. and people should be more worried about labour. they haven't got a plan. they don't know what they want do know what they want to do because quiet. doesn't because they're quiet. doesn't mean getting mean that they're all getting along are along because their minds are empty are empty . party. empty. they are an empty. party. >> sorry. i've caught me, caught me drinking my vodka there. um, right. okay. joining me now is

political . its water, by the political. its water, by the way. mum joining me now is political commentator benedict spence um, explain what's spence to, um, explain what's going on here. so rishi sunak, apart from the beard thing, thinks he can win me over because i'm the group that he needs to target. the saga generation as he's calling us the over 50s . what do you make the over 50s. what do you make of this ? of this? >> i mean, i do see the sense in it, in that older people tend to be more likely to vote conservative. um, they vote more than younger people do. and certainly i think younger people are, broadly speaking, more disenchanted by the tories . uh, disenchanted by the tories. uh, the older people, they're also where there's the major accumulation of wealth in this country. the older the higher up the pyramid, you get more people have lose . um, so have got things to lose. um, so i think the one sort of fear that a lot of people like that, even if they themselves are very deeply disillusioned with the conservatives, is, is that we're running of money. the running out of money. the country running out of money country is running out of money because of a lack of economic growth. where do you go to find money it going to be

services? it is going to be wealth. i think a lot of wealth. and i think a lot of people that an incoming people feel that an incoming labour if has a labour government, if it has a huge will suddenly huge majority, will suddenly stop centrist as stop being quite as centrist as it's portray itself at it's likely to portray itself at the a little it's likely to portray itself at the more a little it's likely to portray itself at the more left a little it's likely to portray itself at the more left wing, a little it's likely to portray itself at the more left wing, and a little it's likely to portray itself at the more left wing, and maybe le bit more left wing, and maybe you will have things like, uh, property uh, coming in property taxes, uh, coming in and that be where they and that that will be where they sort to prop things up sort of seek to prop things up sort of seek to prop things up so i can see why it would be that rishi sunak would aim for old demographics. and this is, i suppose , why we've been hearing suppose, why we've been hearing for a very long time the little sort feeding stories sort of drip feeding stories about what, uh, cuts might about what, uh, tax cuts might be coming. i mean, inheritance tax being the obvious we're tax being the obvious one. we're often that this might be often hearing that this might be on cards. so you can see why on the cards. so you can see why it is that they would be going after uh, this line of after this. uh, this line of attack, to speak. attack, so to speak. >> benedict, honest >> benedict, let's be honest here. mean, got here. i mean, he's got absolutely no hope of absolutely bob open no hope of getting youngsters on board. getting the youngsters on board. has he? >> f- f— has he? >> doesn't. um and this >> no. he doesn't. um and this is, uh, it's i mean, it's deeply concerning because actually, it's beyond just a single general election . it's a long general election. it's a long terme demographic changes in this country, uh, mean that it's going to be very hard for the

conservatives those conservatives to win those people because people back. long terme, because younger people come . um, younger people have come. um, basically, suppose the basically, i suppose the whipping boys of the entire country , they're overtaxed. country, they're overtaxed. they're finding it far harder to get on the property ladder relatively speaking. they're massively compared to massively underpaid compared to their generation. their parents generation. they're have children. they're unable to have children. you it's a perfect storm you know, it's a perfect storm of, circumstances for younger of, of circumstances for younger people. a sensible government, a responsible government would be trying to find some sort of pact with them, trying to offer them something. but this government recognises that generally speaking, young people are not going for if it's going to vote for it. so if it's desperate to in power or desperate to stay in power or even reduce the deficit, even just to reduce the deficit, so speak , of course it's so to speak, of course it's going go older people. so to speak, of course it's going what's older people. so to speak, of course it's going what's worked people. so to speak, of course it's going what's worked foryple. so to speak, of course it's going what's worked foryplin that's what's worked for it in the benedict thank the past. benedict spence, thank you much. you very much. >> benedict spence, >> that's benedict spence, political commentator. thank you very much talking very much there for talking us through we have through that story. now we have a on our panel. no a young person on our panel. no it's stadler. um, it's not matthew stadler. um, albee. young albee. albee, you're a young person , just 30. person, just 30. >> count as a young person i >> -- >> yes. okay. >> yes. okay. >> it depends on your perspective. it perspective. yeah. my world it does. um so obviously your you you don't need to be persuaded

to vote for rishi sunak. no i don't need to be persuaded to vote for rishi sunak. >> i will be voting for rishi sunak. i believe that the prime minister's plan is working and that it will work . we've seen that it will work. we've seen tax cuts as of the 6th of january. we've seen inflation halved. we've seen small boat crossings down by a third. we're seeing the nhs waiting lists come we're seeing the come down. we're seeing the economy start grow. are economy start to grow. we are seeing action on the five action points that he has for the british people. the point british people. but on the point about voters, look, we're about young voters, look, we're doing with young doing very badly with young voters . we need to do a lot voters. we need to do a lot better. i spoke housing better. i spoke about housing earlier i look to our earlier on. i look to our conservative cousins in america. sorry, in canada and what the canadian conservative party is doing on a plan to deregulate the housing market, deregulate planning, build lots of housing being cut, immigration, really focus on the issues that are important to young people , which important to young people, which is mostly to do with housing and they're soaring in the polls. the young people . there's a the young people. there's a model the tories can follow if

only follow it . only rishi would follow it. >> i just have to say i'll be and i'm very fond of viewers . i and i'm very fond of viewers. i hope you might be able to patronise him some more. >> on. he's than you, >> go on. he's younger than you, as i >> go on. he's younger than you, as! hope >> go on. he's younger than you, as i hope he might be of me. >> you sounded like when you were why you were >> you sounded like when you were to why you were >> you sounded like when you were to be why you were >> you sounded like when you were to be voting|y you were >> you sounded like when you were to be voting forou were >> you sounded like when you were to be voting for rishi ere going to be voting for rishi sunak of 14 years of sunak at the end of 14 years of tory rule. you sound though tory rule. you sound as though you've rehearsing that you've been rehearsing that repeatedly in front of the mirror last night. i find it extraordinary all the things i said are true. find it said are true. i find it extraordinary that anyone will vote this time and vote tory this time round. and i think few will. and let's think very few will. and let's just let's just make this point, because it's one that should be made clear. it was just because it's one that should be made months clear. it was just because it's one that should be made months agoear. it was just because it's one that should be made months ago thatt was just a few months ago that rishi sunak the audacity to claim sunak had the audacity to claim to the change candidate. he's to be the change candidate. he's now saying he's the continuity candidate stick with me. our plan is working . candidate stick with me. our plan is working. is candidate stick with me. our plan is working . is working. plan is working. is working. your plan is not working. what labour's plan? you are. you are in charge of what? >> labour's plan is broken party. >> labour's plan. we've been talking about some of the ways in which labour hopes to govern so the show. it will come

so far on the show. it will come out, will come out trying to out, it will come out trying to make our streets safer. it will come we get closer to the come out as we get closer to the election more. election with more and more. >> you've been >> sounds like you've been rehearsing which it needs rehearsing that which it needs to. going to jump in to. i'm just going to jump in here very, quickly. here very, very quickly. >> you're here very, very quickly. >> is you're here very, very quickly. >> is true, you're here very, very quickly. >> is true, why you're here very, very quickly. >> is true, why isyou're here very, very quickly. >> is true, why is jeremy saying is true, why is jeremy corbyn still more popular than keir starmer with the younger generation ? generation? >> well, there was a cult around jeremy corbyn, wasn't there? and i've for the man at i've got no time for the man at all. i think he sounds like a student sometimes when student debater sometimes when he's vote he's tweeting. i couldn't vote for when corbyn was for labour when corbyn was leader i hope that goes some leader and i hope that goes some way some gb news way to reassure some gb news news viewers. if someone like me is prepared to vote labour now, but wasn't under corbyn that something going in the right something is going in the right direction. >> okay , we have to. on my god, >> okay, we have to. on my god, it's been. you've been brilliant. so much. it's been. you've been bril|unfortunately so much. it's been. you've been bril|unfortunately we're much. i'm unfortunately we're running out but the lovely nana out of time, but the lovely nana is coming up next and she's got a cracking show. nana, what are you doing on your show today? >> i will doing that >> well, i will be doing that monologue a black monologue about a black churchill. . churchill. whether that's. >> it's hilarious . >> i think it's hilarious. >> i think it's hilarious. >> would you would you think that acceptable? listened

that was acceptable? i listened to very to your debate. it was very interesting. plus we're going to be about whether be talking about labour, whether they with they still have a problem with anti—semitism also whether anti—semitism or also whether we were suspend our were right to suspend our funding the un because funding through the un because of what happened. and also just general stuff. i've got gary mond coming in. he's a first timer on my panel, so it'll be a lot of fun. coming up. lot of fun. that's coming up. >> that sounds brilliant. i'm >> so that sounds brilliant. i'm not to go anywhere. i'm not going to go anywhere. i'm going to listen and watch to nana. remains for nana. um, all that remains for me say is to thank matthew me to say is to thank matthew stadlen amankona for stadlen and albie amankona for being a brilliant panel this afternoon. really, really enjoyed your company and more importantly, thank you for watching and listening . hope watching and listening. hope you've enjoyed the show. on a sunday afternoon . i hope you've sunday afternoon. i hope you've been while you've been chilling while you've been doing as well, because it is doing it as well, because it is a but don't anywhere a sunday, but don't go anywhere because said, nana because as we've just said, nana is very soon. oh, it is coming up very soon. oh, it leads me to do is say make sure you tune in to nana and have a lovely of your sunday and a lovely rest of your sunday and a lovely rest of your sunday and a lovely rest of your sunday and a lovely rest of your weekend. there's not much of left, there's not much of it left, unfortunately, you unfortunately, and we'll see you all nana is all again very soon. but nana is up don't go anywhere

up next, so don't go anywhere. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news . sponsors of weather on gb news. hello there and greg dewhurst, welcome to your latest gb news weather. >> looking ahead the week ahead it stays rather unsettled and we'll see some rain and strong winds at times. best of the dry weather will be in the south and looking at the bigger picture for the next few days . this area for the next few days. this area of pressure will give some of low pressure will give some heavy rain across central heavy rain across the central swathe uk. met office swathe of the uk. met office warnings this, warnings in force for this, and it's a windy end to the day it's also a windy end to the day across the north west. this weather front just slowly sinking its way south eastwards through and through this evening and overnight. will to overnight. but it will start to turn later drier turn heavier later on. drier either side , though quite murky either side, though quite murky across southeast england . clear across southeast england. clear skies temps skies across scotland. temps here falling below freezing in the countryside. so patchy frost

here. elsewhere, a mild start to monday morning, particularly in the south—west, but a wet start across parts of wales up into northern england, perhaps even a bit of snow over the highest ground here. and rain ground here. and this rain doesn't go anywhere through the day. here. day. generally stays here. amounts building through the day. could be some day. there could be some localised issues here day. there could be some localisside. issues here day. there could be some localisside. sunshine ues here day. there could be some localisside. sunshine acrossre either side. sunshine across northern ireland, scotland cloudier skies further south and temperatures here 14 or 15 celsius a little bit cooler behind the rain across the north and the west. as we take a look at tuesday, we can see the overnight rain starts to clear away but leaves a legacy of cloud across england and wales. a frosty start across scotland and northern ireland, but brightening up with sunny spells here. looking ahead, it generally stays rather cloudy and unsettled for most of us. see you soon. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news .

away. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel, we'll be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours . we'll be course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times will disagree. but no

times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled . joining one will be cancelled. joining me the next hour, broadcaster me in the next hour, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton in a few moments time we will be clashed in a head to head in a clash of minds. joining me to do that , minds. joining me to do that, former labour mp simon danczuk and also chairman of the national jewish assembly, gary mond. they'll be going head to head. but before we get started , head. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> good afternoon. coming up to 3:01, i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories a murder probe has been launched after two teenage boys died following a stabbing attack in bristol . the 15 and 16 year olds bristol. the 15 and 16 year olds were attacked in the south of the city yesterday morning . avon the city yesterday morning. avon and somerset police say a group of people fled the scene by car . of people fled the scene by car. both boys died in hospital in

the early hours of this