police say a group of somerset police say a group of people fled the scene by car . people fled the scene by car. both boys died in hospital in the early hours this morning. a 44 year old man and a 15 year old boy have been arrested and remain in custody. bristol cell commander, superintendent mark runacres says the investigation has already begun collecting statements . statements. >> a murder inquiry has been launched by the major crime investigation team, and two people have already been arrested and are currently in police custody . i'd like to police custody. i'd like to reassure people we will leave no stone unturned in our efforts to catch those responsible for this reprehensible attack and provide answers to the victim's families . we're in the early stages of our enquiries , me, that we've our enquiries, me, that we've already identified a number of witnesses who we will be taking statements from . if there is statements from. if there is anyone who has information , who anyone who has information, who hasn't spoken to us, we'd hasn't yet spoken to us, we'd urge them to contact us or crime stoppers anonymously . police are stoppers anonymously. police are investigating the cause of a huge fire in liverpool city centre .

centre. >> it's after a major incident was declared yesterday amid fears a four storey building on fox street could collapse. it was downgraded after 12 engines helped to tackle the blaze, which had been mostly extinguished by 5 pm. last night. that's according to merseyside fire and rescue service . merseyside police service. merseyside police confirmed there were no casualties reported in the incident . defence secretary incident. defence secretary grant shapps says the uk remains undaunted by yesterday's illegal attack on hms diamond. minister of defence confirmed the warship successfully repelled a houthi drone in the red sea . the vessel drone in the red sea. the vessel used her counter defence system to destroy the drone, avoiding any injuries or damage. this is the third attempted attack on the third attempted attack on the naval vessel and in other news, the queen has left the london clinic after spending the afternoon with the king. it's the third day his majesty has spent recovering in hospital, following a procedure for an enlarged prostate. king charles is be well after is said to be doing well after the treatment . the princess of the treatment. the princess of wales also at the same

wales is also at the same hospital following abdominal surgery , and two people have surgery, and two people have been arrested after protesters threw soup at the mona lisa in the louvre museum in paris. threw soup at the mona lisa in the louvre museum in paris . two the louvre museum in paris. two women wearing shirts with the slogan food response crossed the security boundary and began shouting our farming system is sick! the incident came after days of protests by french farmers over low profits and red tape. the leonardo da vinci painting , tape. the leonardo da vinci painting, widely considered a masterpiece , is set behind three masterpiece, is set behind three inches of protective glass and was unharmed . and this is gb was unharmed. and this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . mark. back to. mark. >> my thanks to sophia wenzler, who returns in an hour's time. busy show coming up. welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my big opinion, there's talk of ordinary brits being conscripted to fight in a future war, but with so many of our values being

discarded, what exactly would they be fighting for in the big story? if the tories do ditch rishi sunak, who are the runners and riders to replace him, we'll go through all the potential candidates with a top westminster insider in just a few minutes time. my mark meets guest is war hero anthony thompson following an injury which forced his retirement, he took the skills that he learned in the royal marines to start a successful business. he believes that anything is possible with the right mentality and he tells his inspiring story shortly. and i'm looking forward to this . in i'm looking forward to this. in my take at ten, the tories are in a right royal mess, but a new prime minister now would be an inqu prime minister now would be an insult to the british people. i'll be dealing with the kamikaze conservatives in no uncertain terms. at 10:00. you won't want to miss it. plus, as it's revealed, four rwandans are granted asylum in the uk, does this sink the pm's stop the boats strategy? i'll be asking former government minister ann widdecombe , who broke the

widdecombe, who broke the internet with this interview on lbc with matthew wright this week . week. >> it has been quite obviously a massive disaster. is it time to say sorry , anne? no . say sorry, anne? no. >> we'll hear shortly from anne on why she won't be apologising for brexit. and a shocking video recorded in london this week of a police officer telling a christian they cannot sing christian they cannot sing christian songs outside of a church setting. we'll get reaction from anne. plus, tomorrow's front page is at 1030 sharp with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say , haven't been told what to say, who don't follow the script, don't follow the narrative. tonight, journalists and political consultant emma burnell, political commentator and social workerjoseph david, and social workerjoseph david, and adventurer, speaker and author adrian hayes . so if the author adrian hayes. so if the tories do ditch rishi sunak , who tories do ditch rishi sunak, who are the runners and riders to replace him, we'll go through all the potential candidates with our top westminster insider

as i've said. plus, the most important of show, your important part of the show, your emails, they come straight to my laptop. mark at gbnews.com. now this programme has a strict and golden rule. we don't do boring . golden rule. we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. welcome to mark dolan tonight night saying true things out loud and we start with my big opinion . good evening. one big opinion. good evening. one of america's biggest banks has sent letters to its home working staff, threatening them with disciplinary action if they fail to meet minimum office attendance. bank of america sent letters to employees who avoid their desks despite requests and reminders to meet the required number of days working in the office. it's astonishing , isn't office. it's astonishing, isn't it, how the tables have turned post pandemic. it seems like employees think that they're the onesin employees think that they're the ones in charge and not the bosses. it's obvious that work from home is bad for the

economy. starving local businesses like cafes and pubs of trade from office workers and doing that friendly man that comes in and fixes the photocopier out of a job. it's important for productivity and people's well—being to actually get together and work in the same environment for at least some of the week. is that too much to ask? too many people insist on working from home now, particularly in the public sector. you shouldn't have to beg people that you're paying to come back to the office. meanwhile, 5 million working age brits are not active in the economy , so this country needs economy, so this country needs to wake up and smell the coffee. someone's got to work. someone's got to get the bills paid. the nhs , policing, defence, schools . nhs, policing, defence, schools. i hate to break it to you, but it doesn't pay for itself and i don't think lounging around in your pyjamas, giving the living room carpet a quick rub with the dyson really inculcates the work ethic that we need. if we're going to recover from the

catastrophe of covid and our dear government's response to it . and whilst many are industrious and productive at home and enjoy the freedom of taking the kids to school, looking after pets and saving money on the commute, there is no accountability and you and i know about human nature . there know about human nature. there are the workers and there are the shirkers. the latter being people far too busy watching loose women or homes under the hammer to actually get any work done. these people are busy baking banana bread , doing baking banana bread, doing crunches with joe wicks on youtube, and cracking open their first bottle of san miguel at four in the afternoon. as they peruse their last emails of the day . what they don't realise is day. what they don't realise is that one of those emails could come with a nasty attachment , a come with a nasty attachment, a p45. it's time for britain to get back to work and back to reality . we meanwhile, in other reality. we meanwhile, in other news, a top military chief general sir patrick sanders, has said that britain may have to

have compulsory conscription and what he calls a citizen army . if what he calls a citizen army. if we wind up going to war with russia in the next ten years. but who would fight do you think someone that can't even work out what their pronouns are has got your back in the trenches? how many people would cite mental health as a way of getting out of it? would woke numpties, who spend every waking hour slagging off this country and its history , be inclined to take arms to protect it. and even if you are patriotic, what kind of country are you fighting for these days ? are you fighting for these days? leaky borders stifled political correctness, which is making life miserable. a flat lining economy, crime on the streets , economy, crime on the streets, paying economy, crime on the streets, paying through the nose for bafic paying through the nose for basic goods, crap. public services , precious little chance services, precious little chance of getting on the housing ladder or finding affordable rents and a sclerotic nhs in a state of permanent lockdown would you take a bullet for that ? half the take a bullet for that? half the country would probably join

russia instead. putin is dreadful, but at least they've actually got someone who's in charge. if we do have a world war iii, i doubt most brits would bother turning up . they would bother turning up. they tried to have war from home. listen folks, it's a shocker. i'm very, very concerned . i i'm very, very concerned. i think that britain would lose a third world war because we're now so woke. i think the brilliant character of private fraser in dad's army got it right all those years ago . right all those years ago. >> we're doomed to be quiet, fraser. we're entombed . entombed fraser. we're entombed. entombed i >> -- >> there you go. your reaction. mark at gb news. com is britain now, too? woke to win a world war? i'll get to your email shortly, but my top pundits tonight are journalist and political consultant emma

burnell political commentator and worker joseph burnell political commentator and workerjoseph david and social workerjoseph david and social workerjoseph david and adventurer speaker and author adrian hayes. adrian you've got a background in the military . do you think britain military. do you think britain is now too woke to win a world war? >> well , firstly let me say, >> well, firstly let me say, mark, i was a little bit surprised that the good general uttered these words. >> but i suppose in his defence he was only saying if our successive leaders of all parties continue to send troops to far places for to far flung places for conflicts that we shouldn't be involved in, um, in my view, foolishly , with no objective, no foolishly, with no objective, no end game , and all for the good, end game, and all for the good, for the purpose of looking good on the world stage. >> then we need a bigger army to do it. but uh, as for, you know, fighting wars at your question, yes, i'm, yeah, we are too. yes, i'm, um. yeah, we are too. i mean, and who are we fighting for? conflicts have had a for? some conflicts have had a real clear and wrong . but real clear right and wrong. but i think fighting for the i don't think fighting for the sake of the military industrial complex good justification complex is a good justification for to war. and just one for going to war. and just one more thing. also before you hand over the others . um, i was on

over the others. um, i was on the russia threat. i don't buy this. i don't buy this at all. what's happening in ukraine and the threat to europe are separate things. and well, i separate things. and i well, i noficed separate things. and i well, i noticed that media across the world were also covering the same story, including australia. you know, you might have conscription. good luck getting the off the tinnies and the aussies off the tinnies and watching the footy. are you realise there's a concerted campaign to put the fear into people? we had it with saddam hussein, milosevic, we've had it with covid, climate change. now we've got it with with russia. it's just fear porn. and i'm certainly ignoring it. >> well why are they >> okay, well why are they ramping why is ramping up the fear? why is there of a third world war? there talk of a third world war? >> because it's the fear that motivation . motivation. >> adrian. >> adrian. >> the fear is what gives the globalist controllers that ability we're in charge ability to say we're in charge now. it's a real subversive thing. we'll do anything if we if we believe we're in fear. and i just say , say i don't if we believe we're in fear. and ijust say , say i don't i don't i just say, say i don't i don't get it at all. even the americans trying to keep us safe and warn us of the dangers in

the world. >> no, i think we've got this this way of peter hitchens wrote a very good article in the mail yesterday or today about we've got this of any one evil as got this view of any one evil as a hitler, and we say it's appeasement. >> he's a fascist. he's a threat to mankind. rarely are they that's not supporting in that's not supporting putin in any a pretty nasty any way. he's a pretty nasty character. overstating character. but overstating the threat. we've continually to do it continue to do it. and i think to our detriment, we're still paying off the debts from the world war. and all the the first world war. and all the other we've foolish other wars. we've been foolish involved in the past two decades. >> indeed, including a war against a certain virus over the last years . emma burnell is last few years. emma burnell is britain now, too, woke to win a world war? >> i find this quite extraordinary, actually. it's very rare for me as the token lefty, to be the most patriotic person in the room. >> but i've always been told, and i've always believed , that and i've always believed, that patriotism doesn't come with condition. one's love for one's country is not 0 one's country, but i don't like most of the people who live in it. and i

wasn't allowed to say that in the 80s when we were being run by thatcher. and i'm very surprised that this is now such a prominent narrative to my right. no, of course not. right. um, no, of course not. but i mean, in terms of this conscription there conscription thing, look, there are global threats . conscription thing, look, there are global threats. i would disagree with adrian over the severity of them, but in terms of why we're talking about conscription now and why this this general has come out and said this. well, it's obvious there's a budget coming up every yeah there's a budget coming up every year. the army lobbies for more money and this has been a very, very effective pr game to get us all talking about that. there you go. >> i listen, the catchphrase of this show is saying true things out loud, which i can assure you, you've just done emma burnell wise words indeed. ah joseph. david, we've seen ordinary israelis and ordinary ukrainians step up and fight for the defence of their country. do you think the brits would ever do that? i i actually do think the brits would fight for their country. >> i think by presenting this as

anidea >> i think by presenting this as an idea of conscription , um, an idea of conscription, um, there's knowledge that automatically we're going to be talking about how united we are as a nation. if the youth of today are able to, to or resilient enough to actually fight a war. in actual fact, this is distracting us from talking about the military institutions themselves . for institutions themselves. for someone who starts today as a squaddie or an engineer, we need to ask ourselves what's the pay that they're going to receive in comparison to maybe somebody who goes to the private sector? if they are to have a mental health crisis as a result of their work, are they going to be taken care of? if there are questions, as with regard to their conduct on the mod on the battlefield, is the mod and the relevant organisations going to defend them, or are they going thrown under they going to be thrown under they going to be thrown under the if we answer those the bus? if we can answer those questions, going to questions, we're not going to have with retention and have issues with retention and recruitment. but unfortunately , recruitment. but unfortunately, the offer of a job in the army, in the military isn't as good as it used to be, clearly, and

they're struggling to retain people. >> okay, let me know your thoughts, folks. is britain now too? woke to win a world war? thanks to my pundits who return very shortly in just 45 minutes time, i'll be dealing with the kamikaze conservatives who want to get rid of rishi sunak. that's my take at ten. you won't want to miss it. but next up, if the tories do ditch sunak, if he goes, who are the runners and riders to replace him? we'll go through the potential candidates with a top westminster insider.

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> is britain now too woke to win a world war? the emails are coming in thick and fast in response to my big opinion, marion says, mark, my family across the years were very brave. young men who fought in two world wars. they were not like these woke cowards. today our young are not patriotic anymore because that's what our schools teach them and they are

whining scroungers. schools teach them and they are whining scroungers . blimey, not whining scroungers. blimey, not pulling your punches there, marion . how about this from marion. how about this from barbara? good evening. barbara, how are you? barbara says hi. mark. what surprises me, or maybe not, is that young people are terrified climate change, are terrified of climate change, but not afraid of becoming prisoners of war or our country being overrun by a foreign power may be it's just a case of they can't think straight. well, i think i think you're right on that one. you're definitely thinking straight, barbara. keep those coming, mark, at those emails coming, mark, at gbnews.com lots to get through. i'll be dealing with the kamikaze tories at 10:00 in my take at ten. but in the big story, which is now what we're going to do, the sharks are circling around the prime minister rishi sunak, with speculation about his position growing by the day. if the conservatives were to ditch rishi sunak, who are the runners and riders to replace him, who better to ask than one of the best connected journalists in the country? political editor of the country? political editor of the daily express online, david maddox . david, great to have you maddox. david, great to have you back show. paper is

back on the show. your paper is all over this story for sunak to be gone by may is perhaps unlikely, but it's not out of the question. is it ? the question. is it? >> no, it's not, although i have to say, i think it's time for the people who want him out to put up or shut up. >> uh, they need to get on with it. i've just done a piece today, basically , we've got the today, basically, we've got the by elections in february , if by elections in february, if they're a catastrophe. a lot of mps are saying that will be the trigger to get rid of him. others are saying, oh, we need to wait till may. honestly, if they wait till may, it'll be too late. it means i won't have a new leader till the summer. but i'm each other apart i'm torn each other apart even more leadership contest, more in the leadership contest, and into the autumn in and we'll go into the autumn in and we'll go into the autumn in a general election , with labour a general election, with labour absolutely . absolutely laughing. >> well, indeed. let's have a look at the runners and the riders if we can. david, the hot favourites . it is kemi badenoch . favourites. it is kemi badenoch. why is there so much heat around her at the moment? why does she have momentum ?

have momentum? >> she she's had momentum really all the way back since the 22 leadership election , the one leadership election, the one which liz truss won as opposed to the one which was stitched up for rishi sunak and, uh, you know , it was a kind of kept me know, it was a kind of kept me cold, almost those people. absolutely starry eyed about it. and you can see why she's great on the culture wars . she's very on the culture wars. she's very articulate . she's very bright as articulate. she's very bright as well. but there are big problems , river as well, which , you , river as well, which, you know, have alienated parts of the party. so whilst she's kind of be out and out favourite, i think in some ways she's kind of lazy choice for uh, for a lot to say, oh, this will be the next leader . leader. >> well, david, stay with me. let's bring my top pundits in on this conversation around the runners and riders for the leadership the tory party leadership of the tory party and, uh, what do you think yourself, david, about kemi badenoch? do you think she would be alternative to be a strong alternative to the incumbent ? incumbent? >> um, i do, i think she's got a

future as leader of the conservative party i wouldn't wish this poisoned chalice on her before me. i think, uh, no new leader would be able to put their imprint on the party, but were were rishi to leave, it would need to be kemi. i think she's she's a patriot. she's honest and she's incredibly capable . capable. >> yes. emma. kemi badenoch would have keir starmer run scared. in fact, the whole of the labour movement, because they couldn't even play the tokenism card, could they? they couldn't talk about people of colour or indeed a woman, which is a good way of describing kemi badenoch . badenoch. >> i mean, i think they they're it is to the labour party embarrassment that they've never had a female leader. absolutely. um and i have chastised them from the inside about this fairly regularly . she, um, fairly regularly. she, um, i think if kemi badenoch has any sense , she will and i, as i sense, she will and i, as i understand it, she is briefing that she's been saying this and said this this very morning on the television. um, she has no desire to take over this side of

the general election because whoever is in charge, they're likely to lose it. um, if they really want to get rid of rishi sunak, i do have an option for them. if you'd like to hear it. go on. so i've been thinking ever since david cameron came back that there is another retired former leader, figurehead of an organisation out there who's been retired . out there who's been retired. um, hasn't got so much to do on his hands as and yeah, the tories, they want someone with the qualities of boris johnson, but maybe without the baggage . but maybe without the baggage. the obvious answer ronald mcdonald ronald mcdonald . mcdonald ronald mcdonald. >> oh, emma. do bugger off. uh, listen , what do you think? listen, what do you think? adrian hayes? uh it's nice to see old ronald mcdonald back again. i mean, i'll be honest with you, he probably would do a better job than some in betterjob than some in parliament. what's your appraisal of kemi badenoch? she could prime minister could just be our prime minister before november. >> could be. but i agree >> she could be. but i agree with emma. i think it's a poisoned chalice to take over the conservatives at this time in the election cycle. i mean,

we're in electioneering right now. um, i think the conservatives whatever side you you fall on or support or loathe , um, i think they're going to facing a wipe—out whatever happens. so, um, i wouldn't recommend if i were her, i would, i would hold fast for the reorganisation that's going to take place post election. okay. >> so badenoch looks to be in the lead a potential the lead as a potential replacement sunak david replacement for sunak david maddox. how about suella braverman, the former home secretary is she in with a shout 7 secretary is she in with a shout ? no i think suella is within the shout, but it would take quite a lot now to for it to work out for her. >> she's too ideologically . um, >> she's too ideologically. um, uh, on one side of a party, really , i think the more likely really, i think the more likely opfion really, i think the more likely option from that side of the party is possibly somebody like robert jenrick , who is rapidly robert jenrick, who is rapidly emerging as a kind of, uh , emerging as a kind of, uh, compromise candidate on the right. and really impressed a lot of people. in december , when lot of people. in december, when he resigned from the home office

on principle, made a couple of very good speeches. so you know, i would i wouldn't be surprised to see robert, uh, rising up instead of suella. but, you know , there are others, you know, you could talk about penny mordaunt or james cleverly . uh, mordaunt or james cleverly. uh, there are there are a lot there . there are there are a lot there. and, you know, none of them, including kemi, i'm afraid , are including kemi, i'm afraid, are the full package. and that's the problem. and that's why rishi is still in post. indeed >> i was reading in your paper earlier today that many tories would like to see boris come back. what are the chances of that happening? i mean, that's the nuclear button, isn't it ? the nuclear button, isn't it? >> that really is the nuclear button. but you'd have to get back into parliament first. and rishi sunak is not letting that happen. i wouldn't be surprised if boris comes back in the next parliament when the tories are almost certainly in opposition , almost certainly in opposition, and i could see him then becoming leader, uh, you know, maybe 3 or 4 years time. becoming leader, uh, you know, maybe 3 or 4 years time . uh, i maybe 3 or 4 years time. uh, i think that's more likely. route but there was some weird talk at

one point about him standing in wellingborough , but that wellingborough, but that happened, the real scary happened, uh, the real scary one, which i thought edward was going to allude to, is that people about, uh, people are talking about, uh, david cameron as a caretaker leader , which would be, i think, leader, which would be, i think, the ultimate disaster. i have to say, i think they may as well stick with rishi. uh rather than go down that route yourself. >> david, i understand it, >> david, as i understand it, you conservative you are a conservative supporter. so would you like rishi sunak to stay put or do you think that it's time to throw the kitchen sink at it, given the fact that they look like they're going to lose the election? >> um, the conservative party electorate didn't have a chance to for rishi sunak if there to vote for rishi sunak if there is a new prime minister yet another prime minister, another new prime minister, it has to be by way of a public vote, right? think vote, right? i don't think there's around it. it's there's any way around it. it's something do with something to do with our democracy and decency as a democracy and our decency as a country. need to give the country. we need to give the population right to have the population the right to have the vote. okay >> well, listen, david, a real treat to have you on the show. the very best political coverage

can be found at the daily express, .co.uk and, david, we'll catch up soon. my thanks there to david maddox for lots more to get through. and let me tell you that we've been conducting so many polls tonight, lots to get through. um, can i just say that next up and this is absolutely fascinating thing. we have news that ukip are going to find a new leader . that's right. neil new leader. that's right. neil hamilton has stood down as the leader of ukip and a candidate that thinks that they could take the top job joins me next, and we'll talk about what those parties on the right should do in order to stop keir starmer getting into number 10. and we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking , is britain now too? woke to win world war three? the results are in. i shall reveal all next.

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of your emails shortly . a very of your emails shortly. a very busy show to come. let me tell you, at 10:00 i'll be dealing with the kamikaze conservatives. it might take at ten those tory backbenchers that want sunak out. i'll be giving my unapologetic response . but today unapologetic response. but today we conducted an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking, is britain now too? woke to win world war iii? the results are in and it's damning 91.6% say yes. britain is now too woke to win a world war, 8.4% say no . now the uk war, 8.4% say no. now the uk independence party, ukip, who gave us brexit, of course, have announced that their leader, neil hamilton, is to step down with a new candidate being sought in the months ahead. some are hoping to land at the top job is the political campaigner and broadcaster lois perry, who has thrown her hat into the ring. she joins me now in the studio. hi lois. good evening mark. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for having me. >> it was very exciting to have you here. you've gone at plenty

of fans as a campaigner, why do you to enter the murky you want to enter the murky world politics? you want to enter the murky worwell, politics? you want to enter the murky worwell, i)litics? you want to enter the murky worwell, i mean, the murky world >> well, i mean, the murky world of is what i've been of politics is what i've been doing the two years. as doing for the last two years. as a campaigner. >> and, you know, i've had enormous. but don't to enormous. but you don't want to be one of them, do you? >> no. well, that's the >> well, no. well, that's the thing. i'm going to be one of them. >> but better, you know. >> but better, you know. >> but better, you know. >> but the thing the >> but the thing is, ukip, the uk independence it was uk independence party, it was the of the the original party of the disaffect patriotic, you disaffect and patriotic, you know, british voter who wanted to with to show their displeasure with the parties the left and the parties on both the left and the right. >> so why wouldn't i want to be their leader? you know, why would for a run? you would you go for a run? you know, why you go for pepsi know, why would you go for pepsi when you have cola? you when you can have coca cola? you know, are the original party know, we are the original party of nigel farage. we're the only truly protest party truly democratic protest party as we're not a limited as well. we're not a limited company . could voted out. company. i could be voted out. you that's something that you know, that's something that some of the other parties haven't why you know, haven't got. why not? you know, the aren't tories the tories aren't tories anymore. they don't support the, you business people . the you know, business people. the labour party don't represent working people. and other working people. and the other party that i won't mention is

the tories lite. you know, we need a real party. the people that can look after the left and the right and i think i can do that. i think i have an appeal to, to both. i really do. >> well, i think we might have to about the party you to talk about the party that you don't mention. oh, no, don't want to mention. oh, no, don't want to mention. oh, no, don't make me horrible don't don't make me say horrible things it involves things about it involves a certain richard tice and reform uk. first of all, you become uk. first of all, if you become leader, you work with leader, would you work with parties like reform? would you seek collaborate them? seek to collaborate with them? >> wouldn't be whether seek to collaborate with them? >> want wouldn't be whether seek to collaborate with them? >> want collaboratee whether seek to collaborate with them? >> want collaborate withether i'd want to collaborate with them, whether they'd them, it would be whether they'd be to collaborate with be prepared to collaborate with literally else. and literally anyone else. and i think there's too many powerful blondes strings in blondes pulling the strings in the reform party at the moment. i don't think they'd be particularly interested in working is working with me, which is a shame. the thing is, the shame. but the thing is, the thing about those powerful blondes, um , a bit blondes, i don't know, um, a bit of but you'll be the of googling, but you'll be the powerful blonde of ukip, obviously. >> well, absolute. >> well, absolute. >> as i say, there's too many in reform. they don't need any more. but with ukip we don't actually want exist. yeah, actually want to exist. yeah, that's don't actually want to that's we don't actually want to exist. like realise exist. we would like realise that clipped and used

against. >> no that's fine. >> no that's fine. >> we actually are the only >> we actually we are the only party that's ever 100% successfully delivered their successfully delivered on their mandate, have mandate, which is to have a referendum on brexit because ukip was the first brexit party, wasn't it? it was . well, it was wasn't it? it was. well, it was the original and the best as i say, coca cola, not pepsi. you know, we're the only party that's delivered on know, we're the only party thatmandate delivered on know, we're the only party thatmandate and delivered on know, we're the only party thatmandate and successfully our mandate and successfully delivered on our mandate , you delivered on our mandate, you know? so, um, yeah , i mean, know? so, um, yeah, i mean, you're saying it's coca cola , you're saying it's coca cola, not pepsi. >> beginning. i'm wondering >> i'm beginning. i'm wondering whether cola at whether it's sainsbury's cola at the moment, because in the polls , you know, it's less than 10% support reform. reform are now sort hoovering up those sort of hoovering up those disaffected and politically homeless that's . so homeless voters. well that's. so why need a ukip when why do you need a ukip when you've got reform ? you've got reform? >> because as i say, we need to have a truly democratic party, a party that is an alternative , party that is an alternative, that where you can vote in, you can vote out a leader. as i said, it isn't a limited company andifs said, it isn't a limited company and it's for the people, by the people. but when i said we don't want to exist, of course we want to exist, but what going to exist, but what we're going to exist, but what we're going to every single seat,

to do in every single seat, we're going, if there's a candidate that represents our values. independence values. so independence from illegal immigration, independence from crazy net zero policies, you know, independence from wokeism, we won't stand anybody against them. and that could be a labour person. it could be a labour person. it could be a reform person, it could be a reform person, it could be a tory. but if we feel truly feel that there isn't anybody has proven, anybody that that has proven, for example, if they're already an mp or can prove that they stand up for truly british values , then we will stand values, then we will stand a candidate against them. there's time for a choice . yes, there's time for a choice. yes, there's time for a choice. yes, there's time for a protest vote choice . time for a protest vote choice. and i think now with me at the helm, hopefully you know, we can really have a choice here. are you comfortable with the level of attention that you'll receive if you become the leader of a national political i'm national political party? i'm always with high always comfortable with high levels of attention. mark >> you're here. >> that's why you're here. >> that's why you're here. >> that's why i'm here. and you do it well, go for it. go for gold. >> what would your policy platform then? i mean, platform look like then? i mean, how you tackle, how would you tackle, for example illegal migrant example, the illegal migrant crossings the crossings? what's what is the ukip answer under your

leadership, under my leadership, i would say we should i would say that we should definitely the royal navy involved. >> and actually, i'm in agreement with ben who agreement with ben habib, who i think a top guy who is, of think is a top guy who is, of course, a reform uk prospective parliamentary this is parliamentary candidate. this is what there's what i'm saying. when there's somebody, there's somebody, when there's a candidate that embodies the views for our views that we have for our membership and for the people that follow us, we'll support them. he said, i think in an them. but he said, i think in an interview quite recently that basically should sort of basically we should sort of almost not almost consider it not literally, but technically as an invasion from france. and if that was the case, and if we told france that that was the case, that if they allow people to cross the channel towards us, that we would respond accordingly , they'd soon stop accordingly, they'd soon stop doing it. >> but would language like invasion not be quite offensive to, you know, these characters, these people who are crossing these people who are crossing the you know, seeking the channel you know, seeking a better life and possibly trying to persecution ? i mean, to escape persecution? i mean, do want use language like invasion? >> it's an invasion . if they >> it's an invasion. if they could buy a ticket . on an on a

could buy a ticket. on an on a on a flight on easyjet and ryanair and fly over quite legitimately from a country like for example, where for example, albania, where a huge of these people are huge amount of these people are coming from. i welcome legitimate welcome legitimate refugees. i welcome legitimate refugees. i welcome legitimate . i'm not legitimate migrants. i'm not anti all, but anti immigration at all, but people coming over on boats and then going straight over to work, deliveries. do a work, doing deliveries. do me a favour, honestly . favour, honestly. >> there go. that could be >> there you go. that could be your catchphrase. a your catchphrase. do me a favour. do a favour. favour. do me a favour. >> an essex thing, isn't it? >> definitely. and you're >> well definitely. and you're going yourself. you're going to be yourself. you're authentic. i mean, there's no front you. it's what you front with you. it's what you see get, it? see is what you get, isn't it? >> yeah. possibly that could >> yeah. and possibly that could be downfall. but hope not, be my downfall. but i hope not, i not. i hope not. >> what about. and i think this is a conversation the country needs to have legal net migration. i sometimes migration. because i sometimes think crossings are migration. because i sometimes tibit crossings are migration. because i sometimes tibit of crossings are migration. because i sometimes tibit of a crossings are migration. because i sometimes tibit of a red crossings are migration. because i sometimes tibit of a red herring.ings are migration. because i sometimes tibit of a red herring. it's are a bit of a red herring. it's what it, a bit of a red herring. it's what it, 670,000, a bit of a red herring. it's what it, 670,000, something what was it, 670,000, something like legal net like that. last year, legal net migration into the uk. yeah, that's big pressure. isn't it. that's a big pressure. isn't it. on our on our infrastructure, on housing, gp surgeries , school housing, gp surgeries, school places. no. what do you think. what would you angle towards as a good figure for legal net migration annually? >> i don't know, i think it

depends on, on what kind of migration we need at the time. so we're looking for migration we need at the time. so stuff we're looking for migration we need at the time. so stuff like we're looking for migration we need at the time. so stuff like that; looking for migration we need at the time. so stuff like that; loci ing for migration we need at the time. so stuff like that; loci do for and stuff like that. but i do think that we should be kerbing when someone allowed over, when someone is allowed over, for a student for example, on a student student visa , or they're allowed student visa, or they're allowed in to study and then then their mom and their aunt their mom and their aunt and their cousin their and cousin and their brothers and their girlfriends of their girlfriends and all of that can come in as well. i think the home did say think the home office did say they down on that. they were cracking down on that. but almost immediately but then almost immediately we reversed delayed it reversed it or delayed when it was to start. know, was going to start. you know, there's so many ways that we can actually legal migration. actually kerb legal migration. but , i haven't actually but as i say, i haven't actually got problem with skilled got a problem with skilled workers coming over to this country what i country whatsoever. but what i do have a problem with is people that could £30, get on an that could pay £30, get on an easyjet flight and come over here coming over on a small boat for five grand, chucking their passport in the sea, getting over to dover, making phone over to dover, making a phone call suddenly they're call and then suddenly they're in hotel and they're, you in a top hotel and they're, you know, doing deliveries or driving free services in driving tax free services in london immediately. >> now, the outgoing leader is neil hamilton. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> great guy. how will you do

the better him? i don't the job better than him? i don't think i could do the job better than but i will make myself than him, but i will make myself as visible possible . as visible as possible. >> i will put all my essex girl energy into it there. essex. >> that's the problem. my criticism of, uh, neil hamilton . criticism of, uh, neil hamilton. he's got essex girl energy whatsoever. >> well, know what i >> well, do you know what i think? that if there was to be a criticism of him, he'd probably take the chin. take that one on the chin. i love him, i love christine, i'm not in any way critical of his leadership. i think he's been amazing. let's get amazing. but let's do let's get to do the next generation. to let's do the next generation. let's do this. let's, um, let's make more girl energy make it more essex girl energy now. how. >> 9 zero would fl— 9 zero would be a now. >> zero would be a big >> net zero would be a big policy issue for you. yes, because you've actually campaigned on that. >> reform very, very >> yeah. reform very, very brilliantly. um, you know, brilliantly. took um, you know, i had some meetings with richard tice right at the beginning. he was bit sceptical at first was a bit sceptical at first about the whole anti net zero stuff. but you know, i put my case over to him and they adopted of policies adopted all of our policies which great. adopted all of our policies whiso great. adopted all of our policies whiso what at. adopted all of our policies whiso what would be your >> so what would be your position on climate change and how tackle it should you how to tackle it should you become leader of ukip? my policy

on climate change is that it's happening. >> it's my belief, my personal belief. although there are other beliefs are available, is that, um, you know , is that it's not um, you know, is that it's not man made at and that even if it was, is it necessarily a bad thing? you know , slight global thing? you know, slight global global warming has led to global greening , for example, and an greening, for example, and an increase in agricultural output. you know , i don't believe it's you know, i don't believe it's a big problem. i believe that actually they're bigger problems in in the things that we're doing to tackle it, i.e. people freezing to death in their home or not being able to afford food because they put the heating on, or the libertarian an infringement on civil liberties, have not been able to drive how that affects small businesses . that affects small businesses. people being thrown out of their cars , kept in the little boxes, cars, kept in the little boxes, looking at screens. said cars, kept in the little boxes, loo this at screens. said cars, kept in the little boxes, loo this stuff reens. said cars, kept in the little boxes, loo this stuff over.. said cars, kept in the little boxes, loothis stuff over and said cars, kept in the little boxes, loo this stuff over and over, all this stuff over and over, i think, yeah, anti net zero is probably a good way of describing the ukip policy. you're not going to lack for material, but what about the floods? >> about the melting polar >> what about the melting polar ice caps. what about the forest

fires? i mean the planet is heating up and the majority of climate scientists argue it is. it's our behaviour. it's fossil fuels . fuels. >> well, the majority of climate science lists that allowed science lists that are allowed to have voice may say to have a voice may say that, but actually, you know , more and but actually, you know, more and more we're hearing from scientists different scientists that have different views just go views to that. just to go through those things through those three things climate, the fires, we they were all arrested , weren't they? the all arrested, weren't they? the people them in greece people who set them in greece for example, greece, for example, in greece, for example , i think they've had it example, i think they've had it in they in the states, >> they had it in the states, haven't they? >> well, yeah. and again, you know, fires are not know, forest fires are not unusual, there been unusual, but there has been quite often found to be quite often recently found to be a element to um, the a human element to them. um, the other ice caps melting other thing, ice caps melting actually there's, there's increasing that that increasing evidence that that there's actual increase in there's an actual increase in ice at the poles and, and where there's been a decrease, there's been increases in other places, floods, even the ipcc reports say that there's no more extreme weather events than there's ever been really in. in actual fact, the deaths from these so—called extreme weather events , which is extreme weather events, which is actually called the weather, are

down over 90% over the last hundred years. so you know, if we're if we have prosperity , we're if we have prosperity, which we have from fossil fuels , which we have from fossil fuels, we can actually deal with these problems. it'sjust we can actually deal with these problems. it's just it's called the weather. >> well, should you get the top job, you're going to bring a lot of colour and excitement to the world of politics, which i think we need. >> excellent. >> excellent. >> and god knows who you'll be up it might not be up against. it might not be rishi it could be kemi rishi sunak, it could be kemi badenoch. thoughts who badenoch. any thoughts on who should be the of the should be the leader of the conservative think conservative party do you think the should sunak ? the tories should axe sunak? >> i think that they need to actually have a in charge actually have a tory in charge of tory party. and there may of the tory party. and there may be, my job will be be, you know, my job will be a little bit easier. >> there you go. lewis. perry, great see you. thank you so great to see you. thank you so much. luck with the much. good luck with the campaign. thanks. lewis campaign. well, thanks. lewis perry, seeking to become perry, who is seeking to become the coming up in the leader of ukip coming up in my at ten, the tories are my take at ten, the tories are in a right royal mess. but a new prime now would be an prime minister now would be an inqu prime minister now would be an insult people. insult to the british people. i'll with the i'll be dealing with the kamikaze conservatives no kamikaze conservatives in no uncertain at ten. but next uncertain terms at ten. but next up uncertain terms at ten. but next up mark meets and it's a top war

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next. welcome back. it's time for mark meets and this evening a former royal marine, anthony thompson , royal marine, anthony thompson, whose service to this country includes a tour of afghanistan . includes a tour of afghanistan. but after a physical injury forced his retirement, a desire to keep leading and keep coaching people led him to create his own successful business in the world of tech and software , and he hasn't and software, and he hasn't looked back since. anthony thompson, welcome to mark dolan tonight . tonight. >> mark, how are you? >> mark, how are you? >> i'm very well. great to see you on the show. now anthony, what first attracted you to a career in the armed forces ? career in the armed forces? >> uh, really?

>> uh, really? >> i mean, it was , uh, it was >> i mean, it was, uh, it was primarily down to my situation. you know, i hadn't really done academically overly well at school and seeking. i wanted i was seeking more and i and at that time, i felt that the marines gave me that avenue. um, really , to increase my really, to increase my self—worth . and that was really self—worth. and that was really what i was focusing on. and i think, um, for me, everything that the marines was offering them was everything that i neededin them was everything that i needed in my life. and it was just a natural pull. uh, and i went for it . went for it. >> well, the rest is history. what were the hardest aspects of your time in the marines ? your time in the marines? >> i think it would be remiss of me to not acknowledge how difficult royal marine training is. >> it's the longest basic military training in the world. and, uh , you know, there are and, uh, you know, there are hard times throughout. >> and i got glandular fever throughout, throughout training. but you kind of overcome that.

>> i think if you if you've got the mindset to want to overcome something, then then you can. so i think, you know, all of training was tough and uh, there was one particular incident which i would say is pretty tough, was going through the suez canal one summer, uh, when it was about 38. suez canal one summer, uh, when it vrsorry,>ut 38.40 degrees. 45 >> sorry, about 40 degrees. 45 degrees . and the boat we degrees outside. and the boat we were in was is, uh, water cooled through the air conditioning was water cooled , but the water cooled, but the temperature of the water was 38, 40 degrees. so it was unbearable below deck. that was one of the tough bits. and and, uh, i think, you know , really going to think, you know, really going to afghan , uh, was, was tough after afghan, uh, was, was tough after rather than tough in the moment. you were well trained. you had a well versed in delivering what you needed to and executing what you needed to and executing what you needed to do to, to do. but i think after particularly when it comes to the likes of thinking back to some of the children that i witnessed who were unfortunately severely injured, if not died from some

of the ieds that were meant for us, and that kind of played on me many years, many years later. so certainly that was a very tough element for me . tough element for me. >> how did your time in the marines change you as a person ? marines change you as a person? >> uh , it changed me in in all >> uh, it changed me in in all manner of positive ways. >> i would say. i think, you know, i really, uh, felt a sense of belonging. um, i felt very relevant . i felt like i was , of belonging. um, i felt very relevant. i felt like i was , um, relevant. i felt like i was, um, uh, doing good for my country. and that was. that was an amazing feeling. really for my own self—worth . um, how did it own self—worth. um, how did it change me? well, i think i'm better because of it. without a doubt. what are the principles that you learnt in the military which you're now deploying in business? >> anthony , i'm going to keep >> anthony, i'm going to keep this relatively, um , poignant in this relatively, um, poignant in the respect of i think there's one particular, uh , uh, activity

one particular, uh, uh, activity which i do . which i do. >> and, and that is really creating space. one thing that we are taught to in, in training, and then you apply this in the real world is if is, um, a, an acronym called rtr, which is when you're under fire, you do return fire. you take cover and you return accurate fire. and i think that is exceptionally applicable within the business world, because when you get that , um, frustrated you get that, um, frustrated email from your shareholder or your chairman , you want to your chairman, you want to respond immediately sending and acknowledging it and then taking acknowledging it and then taking a bit of time to think about how you're actually going to respond. and then come back with a more , more considered response a more, more considered response as to, um, as to whatever the problem was in the first place. and i think that's really applicable not only in business, but also in life. you know, perhaps there's an opportunity for all maybe for us to all maybe just acknowledge, think about what we're say next, and we're going to say next, and then say thing really, then say the thing we really, truly to say. truly intended to say. >> your story >> well, of course, your story and your message is a very

inspiration one so what would you say to watching this you say to anyone watching this program or listening who feels a bit stuck in their life? they're in a relationship that they don't want to be in, or perhaps they a change of career. they want a change of career. they money. whatever they want more money. whatever it that they're struggling it is that they're struggling with, out of it. with, they can't get out of it. how would you go about creating change in your life based upon what learnt ? what you've learnt? >> it's really hinged on on, um, reflecting , you know, you've got reflecting, you know, you've got to go back and look at how far you've come as classic one of the classic bit of mona . uh, the classic bit of mona. uh, only the sailors and navigators know where they're going because they they know where they've come from. and that's very much the case within our own lives. we have to understand and compartmentalise and deconstruct it and really look at every aspect of our own lives to then be able to, um , look at the be able to, um, look at the positives, look at the negatives, and try and turn something out of the past into a much more focus based and

positive outlook . for tomorrow. positive outlook. for tomorrow. and it's rather loose that advice. i appreciate that, but through this reflection, through journaling , um, we can really journaling, um, we can really start to dial that change into where want to go. and of where we want to go. and of course, there's a classic one where can say, let's get where you can say, let's get some goals. i mean, they are really powerful . the pull really very powerful. the pull is bigger than and better is always bigger than and better than than the push . and i think than than the push. and i think you , you know, you have to know you, you know, you have to know where you've come. you need to know where you're going. but the only that affect only thing that you can affect really is the present. mm. >> well that's fantastic . uh, >> well that's fantastic. uh, listen, a real treat to have you on the show. only a couple of seconds left. i just want to ask you, anthony, going back to your old job, world is becoming old job, the world is becoming an increasingly unstable place. old job, the world is becoming an iclearsingly unstable place. old job, the world is becoming an iclear thaty unstable place. old job, the world is becoming an iclear that britain'se place. it's clear that britain's military forces depleted. military forces are depleted. do we spend more money on defence? >> i think it's a really interesting question. you know, do we need to spend more money? i think we need to spend the money that we have much better. i think we need to be doing

things around recruitment much better personal opinion. better in my personal opinion. opinion for people opinion the appeal for people wanting the military is wanting to join the military is no when start no longer there. when you start bandying around and the likes of advertisements of having the snowflake people like me, i wouldn't want to join a snowflake environment. i want to join wise words. >> listen, i wish we had longer, but thank so much anthony but thank you so much anthony for amazing next up, for your amazing story. next up, i'll be dealing with the kamikaze conservatives that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there and greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. we've got rain pushing across central areas through the next 24 hours, which could be heavy at times , the could be heavy at times, the winds starting to ease a little bit . looking at the bigger bit. looking at the bigger picture, it's this area of low pressure which will bring the heavy rain to parts of wales, northern england. as we move through monday. but does through into monday. but it does clear into for rest clear into tuesday for the rest of skies

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somerset police say a group of people fled the scene by car. both boys died in hospital in the early hours of this morning. a 44 year old man and a 15 year old boy have been arrested and remain in custody . labour mp remain in custody. labour mp kate osamor has had the whip suspended after appearing to say the war in gaza should be remembered as a genocide . in remembered as a genocide. in a post about holocaust memorial day, the edmonton mp has since posted on x issue an apology, saying for any offence caused a labour source confirmed that the chief whip has been suspended and the chief whip has been suspended from her and the parliament party while the investigation takes place . investigation takes place. defence secretary grant shapps says the uk remains undaunted by yesterday's illegal attack on hms diamond . ministry of defence hms diamond. ministry of defence confirmed the warship successfully repelled a houthi drone in the red sea. the vessel is used to counter defence system to destroy the drone , system to destroy the drone, avoiding any injuries or damage . avoiding any injuries or damage. this is the third attempted

attack on the naval vessel . in attack on the naval vessel. in other news, the queen has left the london clinic after spending the london clinic after spending the afternoon with the king. it's the third day his majesty has spent recovering in hospital following a procedure for an enlarged prostate. king charles is said to be doing well after the treatment. the princess of wales is also at the same hospital following abdominal surgery . kemi badenoch hospital following abdominal surgery. kemi badenoch has hospital following abdominal surgery . kemi badenoch has told surgery. kemi badenoch has told gb news. she asked the chairman of the post office to resign after she realised there were problems with the board . henry problems with the board. henry staunton stepped down in the wake it scandal. wake of the rise in it scandal. the business secretary said the decision was by mutual consent after she explained him why after she explained to him why we needed new leadership and two people have been arrested after protesters threw soup at the mona lisa in the louvre museum in paris. two women wearing shirts with the slogan food response crossed a security boundary and began shouting our farming system is sick! the incident came after days of protests by french farmers over low profits and red tape . the

low profits and red tape. the leonardo da vinci painting , leonardo da vinci painting, widely considered a masterpiece , widely considered a masterpiece, is set behind three inches of protective glass and was unharmed . this is gb news across unharmed. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car , on the uk on tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . mark. news now it's back to. mark. >> thanks , sofia. welcome to >> thanks, sofia. welcome to mark dolan tonight. >> thanks, sofia. welcome to mark dolan tonight . as it's mark dolan tonight. as it's revealed four rwandans are granted asylum in the uk. does this sink the pm's stop the boats strategy . i'll be asking boats strategy. i'll be asking former government minister ann widdecombe, who broke the internet with this interview on lbc with matthew wright this week. >> it has been obviously >> it has been quite obviously a massive disaster. easter. is it time to say sorry? an no ? time to say sorry? an no? >> we'll hear shortly from anne on why she will not apologise for brexit. plus a shocking viral video has emerged of a police officer telling a londoner that they can't sing christian songs outside of a

church setting. extraordinary stuff. we'll debate that with anne shortly. plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits this evening , journalist and evening, journalist and political consultant emma burnell political commentator and social workerjoseph david and social workerjoseph david and adventure author, speaker and adventure author, speaker and author adrian hayes. and adventure author, speaker and author adrian hayes . plus, and author adrian hayes. plus, they'll be nominating their headune they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes a packed hour to come. those papers are on the way. you're watching mark dolan tonight saying true things out loud. and first, my take at ten. silly season, as it's known in newspaper circles, is normally limited to august, when there isn't much news about . but we've isn't much news about. but we've had a silly season for about two years now, haven't we? ever since the departure of boris johnson from number 10, a conveyor belt of prime ministers, then followed. i know he was loved by many, but boris johnson limped from one

self—inflicted crisis to another, and i can never forgive him for folding to the prophets of doom at sage and being at the helm for lockdowns, masks , helm for lockdowns, masks, mandates and vaccine tyranny . mandates and vaccine tyranny. liz truss had some of the right ideas, but her political skills were non—existent and the delivery of her policies was like a car crash in slow motion, particularly that ill fated mini—budget which temporarily tanked the economy. so in steps, rishi sunak, who you might not have noticed, actually steadied the ship. he ended the brexit impasse in relation to northern ireland with the flawed but just about good enough windsor framework which has seen the return of goods flowing freely from mainland uk , mainland uk to from mainland uk, mainland uk to northern ireland. and also the economy is picking up. inflation is going down faster than paris hilton in a hotel room, with some economists predicting the cost of prices could fall below 2. the bank of england target before the end of the year. what

happens when inflation is low? well, it's the ultimate tax cut. you've got money in your pocket, your wages have value, goods are cheaper and interest rates fall. so this year, with brexit britain having defied the odds and avoided recession, unlike the eurozone and germany in particular, you're going to see a lot more money sloshing around . there's going to be growth, there's going to be investment, and hard working brits are going to go shopping again. all of this on rishi sunak's watch now the rwanda plan looks to be an expensive white elephant. but if the government can defy the odds and get those flights going before november, the optics of that will have political significance . so full significance. so full disclosure, i am a rishi sunak spartan and called for him to be prime minister at the start of 2022, when the mail on sunday revealed that the then chancellor sunak stopped boris johnson sending britain into yet another lockdown the previous christmas . so look, he's

another lockdown the previous christmas. so look, he's a multi—million for not exactly man of the people . but i think man of the people. but i think compared to starmer , rishi sunak compared to starmer, rishi sunak is the right ceo for the country at the moment. is the right ceo for the country at the moment . people label is the right ceo for the country at the moment. people label him just a technocrat. well absolutely. he is a technocrat . absolutely. he is a technocrat. bnng absolutely. he is a technocrat. bring it on right now with our economic problems and the world increasingly at war, we need someone that gets down to the detail an administrator, a policy wonk, an accountant, a number cruncher , a strategist, a number cruncher, a strategist, a chief executive that gets the job done. now rishi sunak is not perfect, but he's like winston bloody churchill compared to the cervix free leader of the opposition sir keir starmer , who opposition sir keir starmer, who is nothing more than a walking political algorithm, a human manifestation of chatgpt software gone wrong and a man responsible for more u—turns than maureen from driving school , which is why it is utterly astonishing that indulgent tory backbenchers are calling for sunak head prize numpty sir

simon clarke and all of those kamikaze conservatives manoeuvring to get sunak out are demonstrating not just disloyalty but sheer idiocy. look at the alternatives. penny mordaunt , who got herself in mordaunt, who got herself in a pickle over trans rights . suella pickle over trans rights. suella braverman, who speaks for millions of ordinary brits but i fear would be liz truss. mark two robert jenrick a nice enough 9”!!- two robert jenrick a nice enough guy. but even his mother doesn't really know who he is and you'd need to be high on drugs if you thought there was any practical way that boris johnson could return, which leaves badenoch. that's right, kemi badenoch, who was the strongest option behind sunak during original sunak during the original leadership election. i'm a huge fan and one day she will make a great prime minister. her time will come, but not just yet . i will come, but not just yet. i don't think the public, or more importantly, the tory party, quite realise what they've got in rishi sunak , a teetotal,

in rishi sunak, a teetotal, workaholic with no background of sleaze , no mistresses or affairs sleaze, no mistresses or affairs . he's a family man, a man of faith , no drunken parties, just faith, no drunken parties, just a self—made guy who decided to enter politics to make a difference . it's an difference. it's an unfashionable opinion to back rishi sunak, but i specialise, as you know, in unfashionable opinions. some times they don't age too badly. opinions. some times they don't age too badly . another age too badly. another leadership election wouldn't just throw the tory party into chaos and gift power to labour. a new prime minister right now would be an insult to the british people. the next election has got to be sunak versus starmer. here's hoping the best man wins . your the best man wins. your reaction, mark at gb news. com of course keir starmer and the labour party would argue that they are way ahead in the polls andifs they are way ahead in the polls and it's quite clear the tories have messed up the country for

the last 14 years, and britain is ready for a change. but what's your view? do let me know. let's hear from my top pundits, journalist and political consultant, emma burnell , political commentator burnell, political commentator and social workerjoseph david and social workerjoseph david and adventurer, speaker and author adrian hayes. let me start with you , joseph. i think start with you, joseph. i think the tories would be mad to ditch sunak. >> um, i'm inclined to agree with you. i think that a new leader of the conservative party and therefore a new prime minister, would be a betrayal of the british people. they didn't even have the opportunity to vote prime minister if vote for this prime minister if we get another one before another , does another election, what does it say about state of our say about the state of our democracy? i am democracy? see, i am a conservative party member. i'm also an activist, and i have the opportunity to rub shoulders with activists and members . um, with activists and members. um, every week the view on the street is that even if, um, rishi sunak doesn't totally represent the kind of conservatism that i personally stand for, i think he has steadied the ship. and i don't

want to see my party enter into a downward spiral like i've seen with other parties, with a succession of leaders . there's succession of leaders. there's something to be said that the party puts rishi sunak in place and they should have integrity and they should have integrity and not be afraid of the polls . and not be afraid of the polls. rishi sunak should lead us into the next election and we should face the consequences of our actions. over the past few years. i want to see my party have a renaissance after the next election. if we don't win and i want to see the opportunity for new people to come without the baggage of the last few years , that would come last few years, that would come to a new leader. if they try to take over. now, briefly yourself though, as a conservative supporter yourself, the tories look like they're definitely going to lose the next election. >> so is it not time to throw the kitchen sink at it? is it not time to roll the dice and go for a new name, just to kind of shore up your support ? shore up your support? >> well, there is this idea of how much worse can it get . um, how much worse can it get. um, but i think the result of a new

leader would be a death spiral for the party. i think we would see something similar to what happened with ukip. uh, to towards the end of their prominence , where there was a prominence, where there was a succession of leader after leader who couldn't get their hands on, on, on the reins and steady the ship. so sunak is absolutely the best man to take us to the election. he's also a good man. there's a lot of good things about him and i think that he should be given that time. >> emma % the bottom time. >> emma the bottom line >> emma burnell the bottom line is that, yes, rishi sunak is not exactly man of the people. he's made mistakes. not made his mistakes. he's not perfect, he's like winston perfect, but he's like winston bloody. compared to bloody. churchill compared to the alternative, which is keir starmer . starmer. >> would say it's literally , >> i would say it's literally, literally the opposite way round . look, rishi sunak better than liz truss, better than boris johnson. but what he doesn't have that i think that those both two both did have was an understanding of actual politics rather than just being that steady hand on the tiller thing. look when it comes to understanding politics as you might say, mark rishi sunak

sucks harder than paris hilton and a hotel room. he has no idea what he's doing, and that's why they're in such a mess. but yusef's also right. they are damned if they do , and they're damned if they do, and they're damned if they do, and they're damned if they don't. they cannot. damned if they don't. they cannot . even this tory party damned if they don't. they cannot. even this tory party is so intent as they are, as setting their own hair on fire cannot be serious about having another leadership contest. >> however , rishi sunak edges it >> however, rishi sunak edges it over keir starmer as the best potential ceo of the country. emma burnell. he's a technocrat. he's a number cruncher. that's exactly what we need , not a exactly what we need, not a human weathervane like keir starmer. >> a none of the polling suggests that that's true . when suggests that that's true. when he first came in, he had much, much better polling in the conservative party and it could have gone one of two ways. either he could have pulled them up or they could have pulled him down. it very much went the other he down. i'm not other way. he went down. i'm not going make that joke again. going to make that joke again. but he did. um, family show. >> all had it. >> we've all had it. >> we've all had it. >> uh, but ultimately, you know, um, actually, the you um, actually, the person you

want in number 10 is not the guy pounng want in number 10 is not the guy pouring the spreadsheets. pouring over the spreadsheets. you who can you need someone who can delegate that. and if he's still sitting of his sitting there in front of his spreadsheets, like he's spreadsheets, acting like he's still money market still a big money market manager, then he's not doing his job at pm. and that's where the problem lies. okay listen, adrian hayes, what's your view of this tory party psycho drama? >> the kamikaze conservatives ? >> the kamikaze conservatives? >> the kamikaze conservatives? >> well, look, we said earlier , >> well, look, we said earlier, it's desperate times. whatever i have no party affiliations. um it's issues for me. whether it's left, right, up, down, north, south or whatever. and it's as a leadership coach, it's about leadership. um, but what you know, going to what yusef said, what do we want from a leader of our country? i mean, i would say courage, , competence, courage, conviction, competence, integrity and honesty and sound excellent judgement. i think rishi sunak has got he's a competent guy, certainly integral and honest . and so integral and honest. and so i think we all agree on that one. i don't see the courage and the conviction there enough, but it's too late actually.

interesting. i every morning i read the guardian and the telegraph . i get two extremes. telegraph. i get two extremes. so get there. but the telegraph comments page gives you a real fever, a flavour of what conservative voters think, and literally sky king of sunak, scathing of anyone. to be honest . but the people that comes up top people like david frost, lord david frost , top people like david frost, lord david frost, kemi badenoch, uh, lee anderson, people like that. but it's too late for before the elections. it's got to be, as yusuf said, i think it needs a clear out. there's too many people who have been in their comfort zones. very smug, even some arrogance and needs a full clear out the party and a new party to be born from the ashes. well, perhaps ashes. okay well, perhaps labour's lead in the polls suggests keir starmer would suggests that keir starmer would be a much better prime minister than rishi sunak. >> me know your thoughts, >> let me know your thoughts, mark, gbnews.com um, lots mark, at gbnews.com um, lots more to get through. but as it's revealed for rwandans are granted asylum in the uk . uh, revealed for rwandans are granted asylum in the uk. uh, in order that they're safe. does this sink the pm's stop the boats strategy ? i'll be asking

boats strategy? i'll be asking ann widdecombe lots of big stories with an don't

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> big reaction to my take. attend the kamikaze concert . attend the kamikaze concert. should stick with sunak in my view, maggie says mark, there's not a snowball's chance in hell that keir starmer will win the election. you heard it here first. gillian says . well done first. gillian says. well done mark. of course we must keep rishi. he is steady, hard working and honourable. barry says rishi sunak is a globalist world economic forum puppet, along with macron, varadkar and trudeau , who has no plans of trudeau, who has no plans of stopping the boats but rather encouraged them. his next step is to get them into work as he needs vote reform needs more taxpayers vote reform for change. and last but not least, jeremy says, what is wrong with you, mark rishi sunak cares more about the balance sheet than the people on it. kemi badenoch is the great pretender more abrasive than kemi badenoch is the great preangle' more abrasive than kemi badenoch is the great preangle grinder.»re abrasive than kemi badenoch is the great preangle grinder. keeprasive than kemi badenoch is the great pre angle grinder. keep those than an angle grinder. keep those emails coming mark at gbnews.com. now tonight's

newsmaker is former government minister ann widdecombe, and an investigation by the observer and the campaign group led by donkeys has found that former rwandan ans were granted refugee status in the uk over fears of persecution in their home country . this raises fresh country. this raises fresh questions over the government's claim that rwanda is unequivocally safe for asylum seekers. so ann widdecombe has sunak stopped the boats policy being sunk ? well i don't know being sunk? well i don't know that it's been sunk because i think it was already sinking so fast that, uh, you know, it's very, very unlikely we're going to have the rwanda . well, ann , to have the rwanda. well, ann, the issue is that these . oh, the issue is that these. oh, sorry. sorry apologies. ann, you carry on a bit of an issue with the line. is it not a problem, an embarrassment for the government rwandans government that for rwandans have the to be safe? have come to the uk to be safe? and we're being told rwanda is a safe country ? safe country? >> yes. that's exactly what i was going to say. um, the decision is completely incomprehensible . and, i mean,

incomprehensible. and, i mean, we need a minister to come to the despatch box in parliament and explain it as to why they're offering asylum . and at the same offering asylum. and at the same time claiming that the country does. time claiming that the country does . residents offering does. residents are offering asylum. is completely safe. now. it's one or the other. it can't be both. >> um , listen, ann, let's talk >> um, listen, ann, let's talk about this shocking story that has just emerged online. it's a massive, in my opinion . it's massive, in my opinion. it's a volunteer police officer in london telling a christian woman that she couldn't sing church songs outside of a church setting . take a listen. you'll setting. take a listen. you'll be shocked . be shocked. >> the religion you're allowed to do anywhere. >> no, miss, you're not allowed to sing church songs outside of church grounds. by the way . church grounds. by the way. you're not allowed to sing church songs outside of church songs or you're not allowed to. that's fine. you're not allowed. she just said you're not allowed to sing church songs outside of church. our church, outside of church. our church, outside of church grounds. unless you have a soledar authorised by the church to do this kind of song. >> she's saying anything >> she's not saying anything anymore. saying that you don't

>> are you saying that you don't care about the human rights act? >> you're lost. are and this is a volunteer police officer telling a member of the british pubuc telling a member of the british public they cannot sing christian songs outside of a church setting. >> deeply disturbing. does this raise questions about the culture and ideology of modern british policing ? british policing? >> well, it certainly will if she is not struck off from the voluntary force tomorrow morning . i mean, she really has got the law completely wrong . uh, and law completely wrong. uh, and she was obviously enjoying herself rather too much , uh, herself rather too much, uh, trying to boss this woman around . and there is no basis at all for saying that you can't sing. i could walk down the street singing onward. christian soldiers. i would be committing no offence all. no offence at all. >> and nothing would give me greater pleasure than watching you down the street, you stride down the street, singing onward christian soldiers . um, listen, there's soldiers. um, listen, there's been a lot of viral videos this week, and you've been responsible for one of them. you broke the internet this week in an interview with lbc presenter

matthew wright . you were on the matthew wright. you were on the phone. he was in the studio and he challenged you to apologise for brexit. let's take a listen to exchange. just tell us to the exchange. just tell us which ones were bad because a lot of eu regulations are really sensible. >> so i'm just interested out the thousands and thousands which don't know. so you which ones i don't know. so you don't which are bad. don't know which ones are bad. we them all out. we just throw them all out. i didn't say that. >> i'm sorry matthew, i'm not going continue with this going to continue with this because that. because i didn't say that. >> unemployment up and it >> and unemployment is up and it was up when we were in the was never up when we were in the eu. also went when we eu. it also went down when we were the eu. 4 million with were in the eu. 4 million with margaret thatcher to a million just before we left. i mean, you're just not telling the truth, are you? matthew wright? >> what you do is let me >> what you won't do is let me have word edgeways. have a word in edgeways. >> had minutes >> you've had four minutes non—stop, not true. non—stop, an that's not true. >> of all, ann, can you >> first of all, ann, can you tell me about the nature of that interview and your experience of it? >> he was exceptionally rude, and i'm very disappointed by that like that because i quite like matthew he was matthew wright. but he was exceptionally think exceptionally rude. i think he's one those people is one of those people who is a friend mine, put it today , friend of mine, put it today, you know, a nice chap, but you know, maybe a nice chap, but

when it comes to brexit, he's got religion and he simply can't understand why everybody doesn't share view. uh, and, and share his view. uh, and, and that was what was coming over today. every time i tried to make a point, he interrupted. he said at the end, i'd had four minutes on the trot the whole interview was four minutes and a great deal of it was his interruption. so i hadn't had four on the i four minutes on the trot. i i very rarely there was one instance where he did when i was explaining fear. uh, but explaining project fear. uh, but apart just would apart from that, he just would not finish a sentence. not let me finish a sentence. and tried suggest that and he tried to suggest that i was saying things i wasn't saying. if i start off by saying. so if i start off by saying. so if i start off by saying can't, then he saying i can't, then he immediately says, immediately jumps in and says, oh, can't tell us which oh, you, you can't tell us which ones bad. well, went to on ones are bad. well, i went to on later on, uh, but he, i just find it extraordinary that there are people who are so resentful of a democratic vote that they can't even conduct an interview in a professional manner. i thought he was very rude. i'm still considering whether to complain to lbc, but i probably wouldn't bother. did he have a

point when he said that actually the eu regulations are mostly sensible and we would probably adopt them anyway ? oh, we adopt them anyway? oh, we wouldn't get rid of the sensible ones. i mean, we always made that quite clear . ones. i mean, we always made that quite clear. um, but now we're being told that thousands are about to be ditched , are about to be ditched, presumably because they're not sensible . and the point that sensible. and the point that i was making was , you know, we was making was, you know, we haven't yet had brexit. why is was making was, you know, we hetaking'et had brexit. why is was making was, you know, we hetaking us had brexit. why is was making was, you know, we hetaking us more rexit. why is was making was, you know, we hetaking us more than why is was making was, you know, we hetaking us more than four' is it taking us more than four years to ditch these regulations when we could have done most of them in the first four months? we simply have not got brexit as we envisioned brexit, which was a proper divorce urgence not convergence , but divergence convergence, but divergence between us and the eu. of course . i mean, it's not a point, it's a state and the statement of the blinking obvious to say that not all eu regulations were stupid andifs all eu regulations were stupid and it's also a statement of the obvious to say that some of our own regulations , which were own regulations, which were independent of the eu, were stupid, but nevertheless , yes, stupid, but nevertheless, yes, thatis stupid, but nevertheless, yes, that is not a reason for saying

that is not a reason for saying that we shouldn't be getting rid of those that we don't need and if ever you wanted to see a stupid regulation that we produced and the eu didn't, it was that actually we should all ensure and i'm serious about this. i said it in hansard. it's perfectly true that we should all ensure that when we provide litter boxes for our cats, we take an i quote cognisance of the animal's preference for privacy . that was us, not the privacy. that was us, not the eu. even they aren't that daft . eu. even they aren't that daft. >> well, there you go. let me tell you, anne, i'm your number one fan. i'm a big fan of matthew wright on lbc as well, and was a fascinating and it was a fascinating exchange. but i thought you stood your ground brilliantly and in a week's and we'll catch you in a week's time. >> rising . don't be so >> rising. don't be so patronising. i stood my ground brilliantly. i made a case that needed making and in case you haven't noticed, i've dressed tonight in my country's colours because fed up with because i'm very fed up with matthew . matthew wright. >> definitely. i thought you were cabin crew tonight, were ba cabin crew tonight, anne, just handed me a bag anne, you just handed me a bag of nuts . of nuts. >> but be careful . you might be

>> but be careful. you might be allergic. >> i probably will. >> i probably will. >> the formidable anne widdicombe. thank you. anne. there you go. that's two presenters. she's handbagged in one the brilliant anne one week. the brilliant anne whittaker returns in a week's time. up, tomorrow's time. coming up, tomorrow's newspaper live newspaper front pages and live reaction studio from my newspaper front pages and live rea(pundits studio from my newspaper front pages and live rea(pundits . studio from my newspaper front pages and live rea(pundits . plus,!io from my newspaper front pages and live rea(pundits . plus, they'll| my newspaper front pages and live rea(pundits . plus, they'll bey top pundits. plus, they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back zeroes. lots to and back page zeroes. lots to get you

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scandal. metro two more teens killed in uk knife crime epidemic i newspaper labour private school tax set to squeeze deprived children at some grammar schools. labour's plans to charge vat on private school fees means that deprived children may lose out on places in state grammar schools. senior figures in the sector have warned. the party intends to introduce a 20% tax immediately if it comes to power , which it if it comes to power, which it hopes will raise an extra £1.7 billion for state education. the guardian fears of us iran conflict intensify after troops killed in drone attack at and angela rayner, council fund just sticking past plaster angela rayner accused the conservatives of cynically applying sticking plaster to council finances to get through the next election. daily express kemi badenoch stirring tory plotters must stop messing around tory plotters

have been told to stop messing around by kemi badenoch, who insisted those touting her to replace rishi sunak are not her friends. get well soon, king to take a break as he's visited by the queen. the sun now england ace breaks silence . kyle, i'm so ace breaks silence. kyle, i'm so sorry, england ace kyle walker today breaks his silence to apologise over his secret child scandal and confesses i've caused a lot of pain to a lot of people and last but not least, the star britain's 19.6 c january heat record the star britain's19.6 c january heat record . eight days january heat record. eight days after shivering in an arctic blast. what about this for a story ? our topsy turvy world story? our topsy turvy world enter looks set to go even crazier with near 20 c temperatures in the scottish highlands smashing the record for january. balmy is the forjanuary. balmy is the headline. there you go. those are your front pages. let's get full reaction now from my brilliant pundits . tonight we brilliant pundits. tonight we have journalist and political consultant emma burnell ,

consultant emma burnell, broadcaster, commentator and social worker joseph david broadcaster, commentator and social workerjoseph david and adventurer, speaker and author adrian hayes. lot to sink our teeth into, chaps and ladies. this one's a shocker though. emma burnell the sex abuse scandal that shames our nhs has 20,000 sex incidents in specialist nhs units reported in five years. you would have thought when you were in a hospital or a clinical setting, you'd be safe . you'd be safe. >> absolutely. look, we can only see the bullet points on the front page, but they are completely shocking and it just you , you are so vulnerable . you you, you are so vulnerable. you are, you know, in completely in the hands of other people . and the hands of other people. and i've only had one operation in my life, but i remember being so groggy and out of it afterwards. and you just want to feel that in that scenario and that nobody is going to be messing with you. and i think it i mean, this is

just another example of why why things like single sex wards are so important. it's you know, this is not an anti—trans statement. it's a simple statement. it's a simple statement of fact that we need to have spaces where women can be a safe and safe to go under anaesthetic and feel that nobody is going to come and touch them. >> indeed. i mean, joseph, what does this say about modern society? that women are not safe in a hospital ward? >> well, i think it's not just women, it's anybody who is vulnerable. it's a sad fact that the majority people who put the majority of people who put themselves in, in the caring professions are doing it for the right reasons. they help right reasons. they want to help people, but there are predators who themselves of who put themselves in front of vulnerable do vulnerable people and do terrible and i think terrible things. and i think what this shows is when you've got big, unwieldy organisation got a big, unwieldy organisation like the you need to have like the nhs, you need to have robust procedures in place to protect people and also for people to whistle . blow on, on, people to whistle. blow on, on, on what's happened now , i'm not on what's happened now, i'm not read this story in depth, i've only just seen it, but i would i would wager that this has been

going on for a long time, and it's been unnoticed. and so reading between of reading between the lines of your answer, you're suggesting that could be nhs staff who that it could be nhs staff who are responsible of are responsible for some of these attacks, not members of the public, necessarily. >> that bullet the public, necessarily. >> says that bullet the public, necessarily. >> says that'hat bullet the public, necessarily. >> says that there bullet the public, necessarily. >> says that there are�*ullet the public, necessarily. >> says that there are 500: point says that there are 500 alleged attacks staff and alleged attacks by staff and patient s. >> yeah, i can tell you that with social work because because i'm social worker, one of the i'm a social worker, one of the biggest reasons why people are struck because struck off is because of impropriety sexual impropriety around sexual conduct with clients . so these conduct with clients. so these things do happen and people do put themselves in positions of power and they abuse it. >> unfortunately, adrian hayes , >> unfortunately, adrian hayes, front metro. two front page of the metro. two more teens killed in uk knife epidemic. this is becoming tediously familiar. it's a tragedy. every time. will we ever get on top of knife crime? or is it here to stay? look we won't get on top of knife crime while we have a police force and a mayor of london who are more concerned with equality, diversity and inclusion and all the progressive agendas . the progressive agendas. >> and it's the same. i'm just

going back to this, this first what emma said this, this choice and consequences. everything we do has consequences. it's yet more bad news for the nhs. look, we've got to take i do like people like peter bleach and other detectives who other retired detectives who come on your show and other shows what police shows and speak what police constables , what policing should constables, what policing should be the problem, they say be and the problem, they say it's wrong people got it's the wrong people who've got to the profession . to the top of the profession. and i'm hoping that the police elections, along with the council elections in may again will clear out of i'm will have a clear out of i'm going to use w word the going to use the w word the woke. the progressive police woke. but the progressive police officers who were not experienced the and we experienced on the beat. and we get to real policing. get back to real policing. >> what do you think? i mean, doesn't this knife crime suggest a problem in our society as much as policing? >> i think are problems >> i think there are problems in society. are society. i think there are problems in, lot of the problems in, uh, a lot of the ways that we talk with and deal with and understand and young people and, uh, just the kind of pain and difficulty that some young people are going through that gets them into a very, very

poor spirals . that gets them into a very, very poor spirals. i that gets them into a very, very poor spirals . i would that gets them into a very, very poor spirals. i would just to make a slightly partisan point, say that i would struggle to blame the mayor of london for a knife crime in bristol, but that's by the by there is a problem across the country. it's not just in urban areas, it's in rural areas . it's and i think we rural areas. it's and i think we all need to look at ourselves and stop squabbling amongst ourselves and think about how we can deal with this. i do think where there is a point to be made is that we have an under—resourced and overexpanded police force who are largely being asked to do a great deal of social work , um, rather than of social work, um, rather than having much more sensible opfions having much more sensible options where you might have social workers riding along with the police , that actually you've the police, that actually you've seen that in some pilots work really well. yeah. um i don't want the police doing social work. i want social workers who are really good and well trained to comes to do social work, which comes back wrong priorities . back to the wrong priorities. >> i mean, we i think we all agree that underfunded and there's not enough officers, but

it's wrong priority. it's that wrong priority. >> that >> yeah, i agree with that completely. that in completely. and i said that in my newsletter today and think my newsletter today and i think the thing the the other thing about the society, you know, we've lost our moral compass. >> again, this all comes back to leadership. >> again, this all comes back to leareducation, universe, our education, our universe, cities, our schools, our governments. that governments. we've lost that moral and we've somehow moral compass and we've somehow got back. i don't know got to get it back. i don't know how, yourself . we need something. >> so one of my postings as a social worker was in the specialist adolescent service for a county council, and i did a lot of work with county lines with teenagers carrying knives . with teenagers carrying knives. um, it's it's not just the um, it's not it's not just the police. it's the justice system as well . if a young person is as well. if a young person is carrying a knife, they'll be given a slap on the wrist and the gangs and the people who peddle drugs are giving these dangerous to children dangerous items to children because that they because they know that they won't receive a custodial sentence . they'll be out on the sentence. they'll be out on the streets again for repeat offenders, people carrying knives . there needs to be, even knives. there needs to be, even if they're young prison sentences, because unfortunately, the finality of death is simply that you make a mistake . as a teenager, you

mistake. as a teenager, you might be hot headed and you've ruined your life and killed somebody . so we need robust somebody. so we need robust policing, justice system policing, but the justice system that protects people on on the street, people. street, innocent people. >> want to expand that , >> i want to expand on that, though, because one of the other problems is that when people do go to prison, the way that our prisons again, over stretched, under—resourced , uh, they are under—resourced, uh, they are essentially just training schools now for more criminality . we've completely forgotten the rehabilitation part, which is actually so important to stop people re—offending. >> and of course , joseph, a lot >> and of course, joseph, a lot of these youngsters have a knife for self—defence . for self—defence. >> well, that's what they would say . um, we >> well, that's what they would say. um, we all >> well, that's what they would say . um, we all know that if say. um, we all know that if you're carrying a knife, you're far more likely to end up getting stabbed. um, if you're carrying a knife, do you think that's, um. >> i don't know, misleading? do you think that's a lie? when no, i believe you. >> they do believe it. and in some of the council estates that i've gone it's fairly

i've gone to, it's fairly commonplace for young people to carry there's carry knives. i think there's also, badge of honour, also, um, a badge of honour, stature that comes with it. so, so , uh, there is a culture so, uh, there is a culture around carrying a knife. um around, um , involving yourself around, um, involving yourself in maybe gang culture. yeah. uh, andifs in maybe gang culture. yeah. uh, and it's seen as something some sort of an accolade. we need to move away from that. and the way to do it is by giving proper prison sentences. >> how about this in the i newspaper where adrian labour, private school tax set to squeeze deprived children at some grammar schools. labour's plans to charge vat on private schools means that deprived of children may lose out on places in state grammar schools because of middle class people taking their kids out of private and putting them into the local grammar. an unintended grammar. i think an unintended consequence of this policy, there's so many times that though those words , unintended though those words, unintended consequences, you know, the motives may be good, may be bad . motives may be good, may be bad. >> you disagree with that. >> you can disagree with that. but agree disagree. but

but or agree or disagree. but there's a consequence on there's always a consequence on everything and i think everything we do. and i think this is one i'd love to read the whole story the to a whole story to get the to get a full, uh, picture it. but full, uh, picture of it. but i just wonder whether labour are regretting policy regretting this policy altogether think altogether because i don't think it's to tax any it's ethical to tax any educational established . educational established. >> aunt emma, i completely disagree with you. >> i don't think you should be able to buy privilege. they're not charities. they are training schools for giving the established each other's ties and the nudge, nudge, wink wink will get you a job in the city the second you come out. um, frankly, having worked with a number of people from private school, i'm not entirely sure they would get into grammars over the bright working class kids because frankly , a lot of kids because frankly, a lot of them i've met aren't that bright yourself. >> what do you think about this policy? >> um, i think this i happen to remember the exact same policy we proposed in the 2019 general election. it's labour's favourite policy. they're not going enact it because going to enact it because their children schools children go to private schools and they're as privileged and they're just as privileged as as the conservatives that

they to attack. um, i, they purport to attack. um, i, l, they purport to attack. um, i, i, i don't i don't think that we'll see this happen. and if it did happen , i think it would be did happen, i think it would be rather unfair because grammar schools traditionally have been a way out . a way out. >> now, i think it's >> now, emma, i think it's important we put labour under the microscope because it looks like they're going to win the next starmer, next election. and keir starmer, how the telegraph? how about this in the telegraph? uh, how about this labour risk reigniting crisis, reigniting the debt crisis, warns investor that labour warns a top investor that labour risks reigniting the debt crisis, recreating a liz truss moment with their spending plans . can britain afford a labour government ? government? >> i don't think we can afford not to have a labour government. i think after everything we've seen over the last five years, the only way is up. things can really only get better. um, frank , there is. i don't see i'm frank, there is. i don't see i'm not going to sing. although i'm a fabulous singer. you should know that. search me on youtube. i'm amazing. um, but there are. there's a huge, huge difference between what liz truss did, which was try to borrow for everyday spending and borrowing

to invest in any company. ceo will tell you that they have debt on their books, because thatis debt on their books, because that is a good way of making sure they've got enough to invest. adrian. >> the problem interest >> the problem now interest rates. debt rates. i personally think debt national debt is 100% of gdp. world debt is a trillion. whatever the figure is now, i think debt is one of the most, um, serious risks we face. we talk the climate change zealots talk, say they're going to do net zero for our children and our children's children's sake. we are putting on debt, which not just going to be our children our children's children and our children's children. to be children. it's going to be our children's, children's, children's. on a credit children's. put it on a credit card paid for in 100 card to be paid for in 100 years. i think it's something. i think has actually think keir starmer has actually realised this. he's rowed back on the 28, billion. he was on the 28, um billion. he was going put on net zero going to put on net zero subsidies. so rowing on subsidies. so rowing back on that, i it's going to be that, i think it's going to be a bit shock. bit of a shock. >> it's not just zero subsidies, it's energy infrastructure, which desperately our which we desperately need. our national is creaking. which we desperately need. our nat there's is creaking. which we desperately need. our nat there's alwayseaking. which we desperately need. our natthere's alwayseaking. reason >> there's always a good reason there's always good reason to there's always a good reason to spend labour spend money. yeah. and labour will country. they will bankrupt this country. they do it. >> okay. do it. >> so ay. do it. >> so finnish labour will

bankrupt country way bankrupt this country the way they this they always do this is this won't be the first time that it's happened . it's happened. >> overspend. if >> they always overspend. and if you our diversity you think our diversity and inclusion bad now, inclusion officers are bad now, you unfil inclusion officers are bad now, you until the labour you just wait until the labour party in. party get in. >> mean, anyone who supports >> i mean, anyone who supports the party that liz truss in the party that put liz truss in number 10 has no right to talk about bankrupting the country to anyone listen, folks, >> okay, well, listen, folks, we've conducting an we've been conducting an exclusive dolan tonight exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking who should lead the tories into the next election. should it be rishi sunak? suella braverman kemi badenoch or another . kemi badenoch or another. number? well, the results are in. i shall reveal all next, plus more front pages. don't go anywhere.

>> um. is that enough time to say for anyway, when we're doing this and you order the boxes? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> welcome back . more front >> welcome back. more front pages in. actually, maria, do you want to do the poll first or

the papers? what should we do? let's go for the poll first. we've been conducting an exclusive mark tonight exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking who lead the tories into who should lead the tories into the election. sunak the next election. rishi sunak kemi braverman kemi badenoch suella braverman or results or another. well, the results are in. and how about this ? are in. and how about this? 12.3% have gone for sunak kemi badenoch 20.8% a whopping 44.4% for suella braverman . with 22.6% for suella braverman. with 22.6% as the others. your reaction to joseph david to that snap poll from i didn't see that coming. >> i know braverman expect that. >> i know braverman expect that. >> yeah, yeah, there you go . >> yeah, yeah, there you go. could she would she be a good prime minister at some point? >> braverman i think she's got the skills to but it as in every situation you need to be careful you're not alienating people with with your rhetoric. >> right. let's have >> right. okay. let's have a look now at some front look now at some more front pages whilst reflect on that pages whilst we reflect on that opinion. we the mail opinion. and we go to the mail newspaper and how about this how to sleep more soundly and reduce your dementia risk. that's

michael mosley i'm a big fan of his brilliant on weight loss. that also, days of that guy also, as nine days of walkouts start, mail probe reveals bosses lining their pockets whilst ignoring the law to provide a minimum service strike hell on trains as chiefs cash in the times now pack of tory rebels set to oppose sunak's phased smoking ban . sunak's phased smoking ban. mackay killer meets victim's daughter to help find body and drone strike on us base raises fear of iran war telegraph if iran to blame for deaths of us troops, says biden . un ban on troops, says biden. un ban on disposable vapes to stop children getting hooked for life and betty boothroyd's warning to pm over peerages. of course, former speaker of the house of commons. listen, i'm going to get to your heroes and zeros of the day . but briefly, adrian, the day. but briefly, adrian, a quick reaction, given that you were in the forces and i've served . served. >> yeah, i've served in the middle east. um i've lived in the middle east for quite a few

years, know the area well, very well. >> of us. iran conflict, intense i >> -- >> by ramping .>> by ramping up >> by ramping up the fear for the warmongers are in the lunatics are in this island. they're coming out again. look, everything we've done in the middle east has been a complete catastrophe. frankly and i just think completely wrong. think this is completely wrong. and choice and and again, choice and consequences, we go and strike war with iran. there'll be all sorts of devastation , but sorts of devastation, but hopefully realism will prevail. >> well, they're beginning to have the means of production for nuclear weapons, aren't they? iran? yeah, they are far off. they've got enough uranium for a few point they few rockets at some point they are. >> but again, it's just striking iran going to do the best job. i'm not convinced. again >> there you go. i would agree with that talk george. >> or not war. war as i said now you're talking. >> well let's have some jaw jaw with your nominations for headune with your nominations for headline heroes and back page zeros. emma burnell who you zeros. emma burnell who are you liking zeros. emma burnell who are you liki so my headline this week >> so my headline hero this week is, professor joe phoenix, is, uh, professorjoe phoenix, who her employment who won her employment tribunal. yes university. yes against the open university. i just she has shown such

i just think she has shown such amazing courage and resilience to stand up and say, no, hang on. it's okay to think what i think and to say what i've said and to do proper research in a university setting without being bullied to the point of tears by her line manager at points. this was appalling behaviour and i think it's vital that she stood up for so many people who haven't been able. >> why was it controversial? is it in relation to she set up a thing with the women's identity research within open research network within the open university, obviously university, which obviously looks social looks at gender as a social construct as opposed to sex as a biological reality? well, hardly controversial , but more power to controversial, but more power to her that she's prevailed on this occasion. a great nomination. how you, joseph? your how about you, joseph? your headune how about you, joseph? your headline hero. >> so mine is lord james arbuthnot, who's a steady, fast supporter of the postmaster orders, and he's done a lot of work to make sure that it hasn't

left the public sphere and that we're still talking about it. it's not only his activism with regard to the postmasters that i want to highlight. he's also a good old fashioned tory mp who backs constituents, and we backs his constituents, and we need these kind of people to be in the public eye at the moment. nice to big up an mp for change. >> and how about you, adrian? your headline hero. >> yeah, heroes actually i usually give a hero when usually like to give a hero when i on the show. just people i come on the show. just people who make and i'm who don't make the news and i'm choosing the european farmers mass protests all over europe berlin, france, toulouse, montpellier . all these cities montpellier. all these cities are at a standstill from farmers basically gathering together and protesting against the climate change targets, which is destroying their profession . destroying their profession. ian.and destroying their profession. ian. and as your one of your colleagues who comes on, one of my colleagues, james melville, no food, farmers , no food, no food, no farmers, no food, there's a new campaign started. so is cause that i think so this is a cause that i think most people are working, man. cause the agricultural cause is the reporting it? no no, the media reporting it? no no, this is the biggest thing that msm it. why no. msm is not reporting it. why no. >> yeah you're right. we should

do more of that. and actually i'll commit to talking about the farmers a lot more next weekend if can. your back page if i can. emma, your back page zero. somebody quite familiar to this tonight. absolutely this studio tonight. absolutely >> so i'm going to let the viewers in behind the curtain in the green room. i promised lois perry that i would make her my villain of the week, because i'm not sure anything could do more good for her campaign than a radical like me saying good for her campaign than a radi(she's like me saying good for her campaign than a radi(she's a like me saying good for her campaign than a radi(she's a villain. e saying that she's a villain. >> okay , well, you don't agree >> okay, well, you don't agree with some of her policies. >> okay, well, you don't agree witii some of her policies. >> okay, well, you don't agree witii agree of her policies. >> okay, well, you don't agree witii agree wither policies. >> okay, well, you don't agree witii agree with almostes. >> okay, well, you don't agree witii agree with almost nothing >> i agree with almost nothing with policy. she seems like with her policy. she seems like a nice person. personally a very nice person. personally >> okay, you >> okay, there you go. >> okay, there you go. >> as polite as you >> well, that's as polite as you can get. how about you, joseph? your back, page zero. >> for me, back. page >> so for me, it is back. page zero. it's a unrwa. the un department for palestinian development. they've got an incredibly important job of supporting the palestinian people and funding their aid, relief and in actual fact, it seems like they've been doing a great deal more than that. they've actually been supporting hamas. >> some of their numbers actually support for hamas.

>> were active >> they were they were active participants the october participants in the october seventh massacre. and this is supposed agency. so supposed to be an aid agency. so they've had their funding suspended by, by many of the of the leading countries. our country included the right decision. >> adrian, a couple of seconds for you. >> a couple seconds. >> a couple of seconds. i struggle tonight, but i've gone for gates because his dirty for bill gates because his dirty fingers everything we see fingers are in everything we see and across the world, and feel across the world, including the health including the world health organisation, which we've been foolish to thank you. foolish enough to thank you. >> oh, there you go. thank you for your company headline is next. >> see you friday at 8:00. >> see you friday at 8:00. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . on gb news. >> hello there. and greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news news weather. we've got rain pushing across central areas through the next 24 hours, which could be heavy at times, the winds starting to ease a little bit. looking at the bigger picture, it's this area of low pressure which will bnng area of low pressure which will bring heavy rain to parts of bring the heavy rain to parts of wales, england. as wales, northern england. as we

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>> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room . wenzler in the gb news room. some breaking news in the last half hour. disposable vapes are set to be banned in britain to protect children's health. prime minister rishi sunak is set to announce the crackdown tomorrow after concerns of the rise in young people vaping. it is understood he plans to implement the ban in expected to come into force at the end of 2024. all the start of 2025 health and environmental groups are delighted, but others have criticised the ban, saying disposable vapes help people give up smoking cigarettes. it's

a murder investigation has been launched after two teenage boys died following a stabbing attack in bristol . died following a stabbing attack in bristol. the died following a stabbing attack in bristol . the 15 and 16 year in bristol. the 15 and 16 year olds were attacked in the south of the city yesterday morning. avon and somerset police say a group of people fled the scene by car. both boys died in hospital in the early hours of this morning. a 44 year old man and a 15 year old boy have been arrested and remain in custody. defence secretary grant shapps says the uk remains undaunted by yesterday's illegal attack on hms diamond . ministry of defence hms diamond. ministry of defence confirmed the warships successfully repelled a houthi drone in the red sea. the vessel used her counter defence system to destroy the drone, avoiding any injuries or damage. this is the third attempted attack on the third attempted attack on the naval vessel and in other news, the queen has left the london clinic after spending the afternoon with the king. it's the third day his majesty has spent recovering in hospital following a procedure for an enlarged prostate. king charles