and prosecute him for murder. and i'll bring you an exclusive interview with penny mordaunt, find out what she's had to say about rishi sunak and whether she'd fight for her country if we to war. that's all we went to war. that's all coming in your next hour. we went to war. that's all coming in your next hour . so coming in your next hour. so we've got an action packed show coming up on hear from you all the usual ways. email me please gbviews@gbnews.com. 6 million extra immigrants . that's almost extra immigrants. that's almost a city of the size of london. by 2036. how on earth can great britain cope.7 many of us are struggling now to get a dentist or a doctors or appointment, or a place at school, let alone being able to afford to buy a house. let me know your views on all of that. that's our top story in this hour. but right now it's time for your latest news headlines with sam francis. >> martin, thank you and good

afternoon from the gb newsroom. the headlines just after 3:00, our top story this afternoon. the president of sinn fein says the next few days will be crucial after the dup ended its two year boycott in northern ireland after more than 700 days protesting against post—brexit trade arrangements. the party says they'll now back a deal to restore power sharing if new legislation is passed in parliament. mary lou mcdonald says it's time for the country to come together and a warning the following clip contains some flashing images. >> there has been a great sigh of relief , but also a sense of of relief, but also a sense of expectation now that all of us together for the common good, put our shoulder to the wheel and get the best job done that we possibly can for every single person living here in the north. >> and of course, by extension, this is a great news story for all of ireland. this is an important this is an important part of the governance structure on our island. >> and it is a very welcome

moment that we are here. >> the northern ireland secretary , chris heaton—harris, secretary, chris heaton— harris, says secretary, chris heaton—harris, says he'll publish the full plan on the deal tomorrow . on the deal tomorrow. >> i'm pleased that the dup have agreed to accept the package of measures that the uk government has put forward and as a result, they are ready to return to the northern ireland assembly and nominate to the nominate representatives to the northern executive . i northern ireland executive. i can confirm that today i have updated the cabinet on this significant development . significant development. >> in other news, the attorney general has said that an inspection into the handling of the nottingham stabbing case by the nottingham stabbing case by the crown prosecution service will be announced shortly. this includes a review of the cps decision to accept valdo calocane guilty pleas of manslaughter based on diminished responsibility . victoria prentis responsibility. victoria prentis says the prompt and thorough review is needed to address concerns raised by the families of those who died. barnaby weber , grace o'malley kumar and ian coates . passengers have faced

coates. passengers have faced more travel disruption today as train drivers launch their fresh wave of walkouts in a long running dispute over pay. train operators have been urging passengers to only travel if absolutely necessary . downing absolutely necessary. downing street says it will consider if they can strengthen minimum service level rules after train operators opted not to use the new law during the recent strikes . aslef union's general strikes. aslef union's general secretary mick whelan, says the government are giving up trying to resolve the row . to resolve the row. >> it's been five years since some of my members have had a pay some of my members have had a pay rise . um, some of my members have had a pay rise. um, we're some of my members have had a pay rise . um, we're not looking pay rise. um, we're not looking for a pay rise for the years of the pandemic. years years the pandemic. years three years ago, inflation started ago, when inflation started going through the roof like many other sectors, we asked for a pay other sectors, we asked for a pay out that pay rise. we then found out that the people , the privateers that the people, the privateers that we for had done a deal with we work for had done a deal with the westminster government not to us pay and to give us a pay rise. and there's afoot to rip up there's a move afoot to rip up our and conditions. we our terms and conditions. we still into negotiations in still went into negotiations in good they've behaved good faith and they've behaved despicably d the uk economy is projected to grow at a slower

rate than first expected. >> that's over the next two years. the international monetary fund says the uk will be the second worst performer in the g7 this year, with just 0.6% growth, while the while the imf says the uk economy is seeing some growth as inflation drops , some growth as inflation drops, it's warning that ongoing attacks in the red sea could introduce new shocks to the global economy . the government global economy. the government says that new visa changes will make a tangible difference to migration figures. it comes as new figures from the ons project that immigration is due to add an extra 6.1 million people to the uk's population by 2036. it means the total population is projected to hit 70 million by the middle of 2026. that's faster than the original forecast of 67 million, a man in his 30s who was armed with a crossbow has been shot dead by police in south—east london, met police in south—east london, met police say that the man was trying to force his way into a building in surrey keys just

before 5:00 this morning. he was reportedly armed with weapons and threatened to harm residents inside address . unarmed inside that address. unarmed officers had tried to speak to the man, but they were then threatened when police marksmen arrived at the scene, the man entered building the entered a building on the property later shot . a property and was later shot. a review of supermarket loyalty schemes is now underway to see whether some pricing may mislead or disadvantaged shoppers . the or disadvantaged shoppers. the competition and markets authority is reviewing the schemes, including tesco's clubcard and sainsbury's nectar. the uk's antitrust regulator is looking into whether it's fair that cheaper prices are only available to members of those schemes . the review is expected schemes. the review is expected to be finished by the end of this year, and a monkey on the loose in scotland has been cited as efforts continue to recapture him. thermal imaging drones are being used in the hunt for the japanese macaque, which found its way out of an enclosure at the highland wildlife park on sunday. while it's not considered dangerous , considered dangerous, authorities are advising against

approaching the animal and they're encouraging anyone who may see the creature to report it . and for the latest on all of it. and for the latest on all of those stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . code on your screen. >> all right, let's get cracking loads to get our teeth into today. and we start with the incredible news that underlines the size, the sheer magnitude of the size, the sheer magnitude of the migrant crisis, immigration is due to add an extra 6.1 million people to the uk's population by 2036, and the figure was announced today by the office for national statistics . well, i'm joined now statistics. well, i'm joined now in the studio by our political edhon in the studio by our political editor, christopher hope, and also the conservative mp for stoke trent south, jack stoke on trent south, jack brereton. first, chris, brereton. but first, chris, let's go to you staggering numbers, absolutely staggering a 10% increase. and these are not pie in the sky numbers. they're based on projections and actually i think quite

conservative ones. well they are that the matter is immigration is set to rocket. >> they're based on an annual net increase of 245,000 to 315,000 a year. >> the figures now are well over twice that 744,000. this target of hitting over 70 million is 11 years earlier than they thought. now you can take two views on that. it's great that people want to come to our country. it's a nice place to be. we love living here. we're proud to be british. great to have, you know, welcoming know, we are welcoming the world, it's not sustainable world, but it's not sustainable because no investment because there's no investment in a 0“, because there's no investment in a on, a a similar level on, on, on a resources , public services resources, public services school places , dentists, school places, dentists, doctors. and that's the pressure points being felt by so many of our viewers. and that's why it matters so much. and we are heanng matters so much. and we are hearing today from james cleverly, the home secretary, on measures migration measures to kerb net migration with dates now set between with some dates now set between march april, when they're march and april, when they're going and cut back who going to try and cut back on who can here and what kind can come here and what kind of things see.7 things are we going to see.7 >> we've seen a huge boom in work visas for low skilled work visas for the low skilled agricultural construction care

homes , and it was at 20% minus homes, and it was at 20% minus the national wage for brits under undermining the national wage for those at the bottom, a huge, huge boom in student visas. what are they going to offer.7 >> they're going to try and kerb numbers of those who can bring in their family members, if they're students, and they're going with the going to try and deal with the issue of allowing employers to cut to pay that to, to cut wages to pay that to, to, to migrants, they here, migrants, if they come here, they'reof, of qualifying salary levels of, of qualifying salary to come here to get a, get a visa. >> lots of technical changes, tweaks and, uh, to the actual rules in order to get a better grip that's in parallel with the illegal immigration story today. james cleverly, the home secretary, flies to france , secretary, flies to france, meets with gerald darmanin, who is the his counterpart, the french version of a home secretary. interior secretary. the interior minister. he'll come back tomorrow to talk the home at tomorrow to talk to the home at home committee. home affairs select committee. he's in he's a big day, i think, in migration. and why the government allowed this to happen, of it by the way, happen, a lot of it by the way, on boris watch, lots happen, a lot of it by the way, onthe'is watch, lots happen, a lot of it by the way, onthe critics watch, lots happen, a lot of it by the way, onthe critics right watch, lots happen, a lot of it by the way, onthe critics right now:h, lots of the critics right now about saying can't control saying, why can't you control net migration when it went up to so sharply it through with

so sharply vote it through with the government this time .7 the government this time? >> and, chris, before we, um, focus on your amazing exclusive with penny mordaunt, let's bring in brereton at point, in jack brereton at that point, because people voted to take back quite simply back control. quite simply because of brexit, of our borders , particularly of our borders, particularly of our borders. these figures are eye—watering. they're an embarrassment for the conservative government, aren't they? >> these figures >> well, these figures are extremely and my extremely concerning and my constituents will be very worried about these figures. as we've you know, is we've heard, you know, this is about services. it's about schools, dentists . all schools, doctors, dentists. all of these things that are being regularly raised with me. this is why we're such is why we're seeing such pressure those pressure on many of those services. and people want to services. and people do want to see proper control. obviously the government are putting in place number of measures to place a number of measures to bnng place a number of measures to bring numbers down, which bring those numbers down, which would reduced by about would have reduced by about 300,000. number, so about 300,000. the number, so about half would have been reduced by the that are the measures that are being implemented now the implemented now by the government control these government to control these issues. do need to see issues. but we do need to see further action to bring those numbers down because it just is not sustainable to see over 6 million people coming over the

next few years. >> we can agree with that. >> we can all agree with that. we all agree with that. but we can all agree with that. but it has happened on the conservative party's watch. well it has happened on the cthink/ative party's watch. well it has happened on the cthink/atiiare arty's watch. well it has happened on the cthink lath are arty's v action alell i think we are taking action now and, you know, people say that we've taking action, we've not been taking action, but actually we are putting in place serious now place serious measures now to bnng place serious measures now to bring numbers down. bring these numbers down. >> and you know, what is the alternative? party, alternative? the labour party, they have completely open they would have completely open borders, them all in, borders, allow them all in, allow country to be allow this country to be completely overrun with with migrants and particularly illegal migrants. migrants and particularly illegal migrants . and i think, illegal migrants. and i think, you know, the reality is that the labour party have zero plans of to deal with these sort of how to deal with these sort of how to deal with these sort of issues. chris >> these numbers out today >> but these numbers out today are including the measures announced by james cleverly last month. so essentially, people have got a choice here despite, you know , this pricing the you know, this pricing in the changes the home changes announced by the home secretary. think they changes announced by the home secre to y. think they changes announced by the home secre to go think they changes announced by the home secre to go further?iink they changes announced by the home secre to go further? wouldey changes announced by the home secre to go further? would you need to go further? would you want to tens thousands want to see tens of thousands arriving year less than arriving here a year less than 100,000, rather than more than 300,000? >> well, i think we do need to go further. i think the measures that have been introduced and proposed are proposed by the government are a good but i do think we

good start. but i do think we need particularly need to go further, particularly looking the student looking at some of the student visas well. you know, visas as well. you know, we've seen some these low value seen some of these low value qualification zones and universities which are dependent upon, you know, students upon, you know, foreign students coming to this country actually , coming to this country actually, many of those are not adding good value to the wider economy. they're not adding value. and then bringing then they bring they're bringing in whole number of dependents, in a whole number of dependents, which are, know, extracting which are, you know, extracting from resources schools, hospitals and everything else. so i do think that we need to see much controls to see much more controls to actually ensure that this is sustainable . sustainable. >> so people will be >> so again, people will be crying out in violent agreements with you, jack. but the fact of the matter remains, sunday times at didn't expose a at the weekend didn't expose a on the student visa scam as they see it. and that is because foreign students pay so much more. are more. the universities are courting students . this courting those students. this has all happened legally. it's all front door. all happened via the front door. 100,000 dependents coming in with them often on course, which are rarely attend , did at mickey are rarely attend, did at mickey mouse university cities. and this has all happened legally on the conservative party's watch.

>> well , i the conservative party's watch. >> well, i think that's why we're taking action because we're taking action now, because it has been a complete abuse of the we've seen, not the system we've seen, and not just also with some the system we've seen, and not justhe also with some the system we've seen, and not justhe care also with some the system we've seen, and not justhe care visas so with some the system we've seen, and not justhe care visas aswith some the system we've seen, and not justhe care visas as well. ;ome the system we've seen, and not justhe care visas as well. we've of the care visas as well. we've seen complete abuse of the system. know, care homes system. you know, care homes that don't exist in some that don't even exist in some cases , which is why we're now cases, which is why we're now putting those putting in place those regulations around the fact that they be cqc registered . they have to be cqc registered. but i do think we are taking some serious here. i'd some serious actions here. i'd like to go further. i think the government will be going further on these issues because on some of these issues because we can't allow those numbers to escalate to scale that's escalate to the scale that's being proposed, you know, to have 1.3 million coming here, around 1.3 million over the last two years is just totally unsustainable. we cannot cope with that level of people coming to this country on every, every two years. >> chris, is the problem here. jack, you're the mp stoke, jack, you're the mp for stoke, stoke south. is the stoke on trent south. is the problem that the policy is problem here that the policy is controlled by people who are miles from don't miles away from stoke? don't understand what it's like living in stoke feeling that they in stoke and feeling that they can't get on to the house. no they their kids into they can't get their kids into schools , of, of they

schools because of, of, of they may have voted for brexit. maybe stoke vote for brexit back stoke did vote for brexit back in control of the in 2016, but that control of the borders happened. borders hasn't happened. and that's annoying. that's what's so annoying. and people allow this to happen people who allow this to happen aren't by the lack of aren't affected by the lack of pubuc aren't affected by the lack of public services that they are feeling. >> people stoke trent have >> people in stoke on trent have been being ignored by been used to being ignored by multiple governments, and particularly though by the labour party . my seat was labour party. my seat was represented by labour mps for 80 years before i became the first conservative mp for 80 odd years, which , you know, and over years, which, you know, and over that time we have been totally ignored and neglected as an area . and i think that was a lot of the expression of why people did vote , why they voted vote for myself, why they voted overwhelmingly brexit is overwhelmingly for brexit is because they're fed up of being ignored. they want to heard. ignored. they want to be heard. so is your government ignored. they want to be heard. so ithem' government ignored. they want to be heard. so ithem' govei2016?t ignoring them since 2016? >> that's six years, seven years ago. >> i don't think that's accurate. you know, we've seen record investment, record amounts of investment, which we've secured through levelling through levelling up funding through transport funding, through a whole schemes , whole number of other schemes, which, you has never been which, you know, has never been achieved by any labour government. this is

conservatives investing in delivering on the improvements, levelling up that need see levelling up that we need to see in all in communities like mine. all right, years right, jack, four years ago tomorrow was brexit day. >> four years ago today, the brexit party got a standing ovation in brussels. i remember it i don't remember what it well. i don't remember what happened afterwards. remember that bit well today? the international monetary fund, the imf un unelected , imf, one of those un unelected, you know, unregulated bodies from abroad, just like brussels, have waded in, telling jeremy hunt your chancellor, that he shouldn't tax in the next shouldn't cut tax in the next budget because it won't allow the imf to fulfil its net zero targets. isn't that precisely the kind of thing that voters in stoke voters? the length and breadth of the nation are sick of these bodies from abroad telling us what to do. and i'm hoping that you're going to tell the imf to go and take a long jump. >> i think you're right. i mean, it's absolutely disgraceful that they that they us they think that they can tell us as the elected parliament elected what do elected government, what to do and, you know, when we what's more remarkable is when we see countries like china and india just pumping as much as they

just pumping out as much as they like, know, they think they like, you know, they think they can tell us what to do these can tell us what to do on these issues. know, has issues. you know, the uk has actually been world leading in terms of addressing the net zero issues, countries issues, whilst other countries around world are doing around the world are doing nothing right. around the world are doing not net right. around the world are doing not net zero. . around the world are doing not net zero. jack, i want >> net zero. jack, i want to push you on that because rishi sunak, had a rare thing. he sunak, he had a rare thing. he had polls, 4% up had a bump in the polls, 4% up when he rowed back on scrapping cars, diesel petrol and also cars, diesel and petrol and also boilers. basically boilers. this is basically saying you're going to be taxed heavier . saying you're going to be taxed heavier. yeah, you're going to be poorer and colder and hungner be poorer and colder and hungrier to pay for this . why hungrier to pay for this. why don't the tories go, go, go full rogue and say you know what. net zero. away zero. we're going to do away with zero. we're going to do away witithat's what people want. >> that's what people want. i think people, know, expect think people, you know, expect that know, it's that actually, you know, if it's going affect their lifestyle. going to affect their lifestyle. in life, in fact their quality of life, we can't do that. you know, we've got to actually yes, we i think most people do want try think most people do want to try and support the environment and support the planet, that support the planet, but that can't a result of can't be as a result of compromising our living standards , quality of life, and standards, quality of life, and particularly some our particularly some of our industries. i my area has industries. i mean, my area has got huge numbers of, you know , got huge numbers of, you know, industries, particularly

ceramics industry . if we ceramics industry. if we continue the line that continue down the line that we're going, the ceramics industry is under threat industry is under real threat and be offshored to and will be offshored to countries that have got a far worse environmental than worse environmental record than we isn't this the we have. but isn't this the issue, on the issue of issue, though, on the issue of net zero, the conservative party is divided. >> you're speaking common sense to a lot of people who are watching this show, but a lot of people in your party don't agree with what you're same as with what you're saying. same as on we have we have this on brexit. we have we have this division. consequence, division. and as a consequence, once we're stymied do we once we're stymied and do we have home office that have a blob of home office that seems against the seems to be working against the direction travel, what people direction of travel, what people like want to do, like you might want to do, i think find that we are think you'd find that we are surprisingly united, actually, as lot of these as a party around a lot of these issues, most people realise issues, and most people realise that penalise their that to penalise their constituents for something which actually going actually isn't going to make a huge impact internationally when we're already world leading in this anyway , we've already this anyway, we've already achieved so much when it comes to achieving net zero. >> i think most people in the conservative party recognise this, and but what we're seeing from party is that from the labour party is that they want to they want put they want to they want to put they want to they want to put

the they want this 28 the taxes up, they want this 28 billion plan that's going to leave black hole. and leave a huge black hole. and they said how they're they haven't said how they're going the way going to fund it. the only way it funded is by putting it will be funded is by putting ordinary people's up. yeah. >> here, jack, before we move on, a quick nibble at on, chris, a quick nibble at your penny mordaunt exclusive. the labour party fear penny mordaunt most as their leader. >> why i think she connects with people outside of the west of village. i think she is someone who is well regarded by labour. they think she can campaign well. she relates to people well. she relates to people well. she relates to people well. she made very clear she just, you know, she was off the agenda.she just, you know, she was off the agenda. she was talking to us about campaign a statute about a campaign for a statute and to mark the uk as a successful efforts to bring at the end of the slave trade. we also asked her whether she might sign for britain. sign up to fight for britain. you'll see answer later. you'll see the answer later. >> debate on should we >> and that debate on should we erect to commemorate erect a statue to commemorate britain's role in ending the slave trade? i think it's a huge debate. we've got that later. what do you think? what do you think that? what do you think? what do you thinkdo that? what do you think? what do you thinkdo agree,it? what do you think? what do you thinkdo agree, i? what do you think? what do you thinkdo agree, i think, you >> i do agree, i think, you know, comes with a very know, penny comes up with a very good there. think we good idea there. and i think we

do actually celebrate do need to actually celebrate what achieved country what we've achieved as a country because the because we have been at the forefront of ending a lot of these abuses. and we be these abuses. and we should be talking celebrating that talking about celebrating that rather always looking at rather than always looking at the negatives. but not ignoring exactly centuries of exactly the centuries of negativity and appalling. >> the slavery , but >> this on the slavery, but equally marking ending and equally marking the ending and that's statue planned in that's a statue planned in portsmouth . portsmouth. >> west squadron , in >> the west african squadron, in which was very instrumental in ending the global slave trade. >> sailors lost their lives doing it. >> yeah, 1600 of them. we got that full interview coming up in about an hour's time, still being edited now that hot being edited now it's that hot off from this man off the press from this man here, jack brighton, here, chris hope, jack brighton, thank so much for coming in. thank you so much for coming in. and conservative for stoke on and conservative mp for stoke on trent, south. a lively start to the thank very the show. thank you very much gentlemen. we'll have lots gentlemen. now we'll have lots more on those shock population figures show. and figures throughout the show. and there's coverage on there's plenty of coverage on our gbnews.com. and our website gbnews.com. and you've helped that the you've helped to make that the fastest national news fastest growing national news website in the country. so thank you much . now time our you very much. now time for our brand new great british giveaway now. and your chance to win an astonishing 18 grand in cold,

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well, i'm going to ask our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie , that precise question. beattie, that precise question. he joins us now from stormont. dougie have the dup betrayed brexit at. >> well, we not know the full details of the deal till tomorrow, but i would say that the dup have very much said that the dup have very much said that the westminster politicians , the westminster politicians, that that had them back , brexit that that had them back, brexit very much left them in the cold and staying inside the eu, so they have battled pretty much on their own over the last two years to try and get a deal that that stops , uh, infinite checks that stops, uh, infinite checks coming into northern ireland and stops the free flow of goods from northern ireland into the uk and vice versa. and that has been a real sticking point for them here. and it has even called the institution of northern ireland into account. now i'm just down the road from parliament buildings that that iconic building, this is stormont castle. there has been

frantic activity all day and this is where the executive sits and that has now been made possible. those ministers can come into place because of what the dup did last night and chris heaton—harris praised them for doing exactly that . doing exactly that. >> i'm very grateful to sir jeffrey and his colleagues for the leadership that he and they have displayed and the constructive nature of our dialogue over the past few months . throughout dialogue over the past few months. throughout our discussions , it has never been discussions, it has never been in doubt that sir jeffrey's prime concern was to secure and reinforce northern ireland's place in the union. i would also like to thank the other political parties in northern ireland for the patience they have shown during this time . have shown during this time. >> so jeffrey donaldson , now his >> so jeffrey donaldson, now his party will become the deputy first minister here. michelle o'neill , let's not forget, after o'neill, let's not forget, after that last election, she will become the first minister of northern ireland. that is his trick in its own right. as sinn

fein first minister of northern ireland 25 years ago, when the good friday agreement was signed, no one would ever have thought that. but it also puts to bed the thought that unionists did not want to share power or serve under a sinn fein first minister. so you can imagine the feeling here today in parliament buildings that everyone is back in the game and they have that £3 billion to set some bills right here because of course, northern ireland was underfunded for the last 4 or 5 years. there's been massive strikes here amongst the public sector and they couldn't get any parity in their wages. so unfortunately , when michelle unfortunately, when michelle o'neill takes her table on monday, i'm afraid that her door will be knocked by an awful amount of people who actually want their pay sorted out . want their pay sorted out. >> okay, dougie beattie, thank you for that. update from stormont. some of the harder unionists are calling this a surrender deal. let's see. as usual, the devil is always in the detail. now let's bring you

a sneak taste. a preview of that exclusive interview with penny morden that we spoke about a few minutes ago . the former defence minutes ago. the former defence secretary and the current leader of the house of commons has been speaking to our political edhon speaking to our political editor, and this is editor, chris hope, and this is what she when chris asked what she said when chris asked her a royal navy reservist , her as a royal navy reservist, if she'd be ready to fight for her country she got the call her country if she got the call up . up. >> i] >> up. >> i have signed up to >> so look, i have signed up to do this in the past. i have to say, if they're if say, chris, if they're if they're calling on me any they're calling on me at any point , they're calling on me at any point, aren't we are really in trouble . but but look , in all trouble. but but look, in all seriousness, we need to be a resilient nation. and that doesn't mean stepping up to pick up a rifle. what it means is that on anything that might happen to us in the future, we want our communities to be able to respond to that. when i rewrote this nation's resilience strategy by standing up a civil defence force to able to deal defence force to be able to deal with of things that we with some of the things that we currently our armed forces currently ask our armed forces to do was part of that suggestion. and we can take

pressure off our armed forces is by becoming more resilient ourselves. and that is something important that we should do. you have been in this office before covering on my campaign to build three new ships . that assets , three new ships. that assets, civilian assets, but for the government to have call on if they need to. that could take pressure off our fleet , our pressure off our fleet, our navy. so these are the sorts of things we should be looking at doing. >> well, the labour party are calling penny mordaunt the leader of the conservative party. they fear the most will have that full exclusive interview in the next hour. it's still being edited as we speak. hot off the press from christopher hope. it's going to be superb. you can watch much more of that later in the show. from 4 pm, there's still from 4 pm, and there's still loads more to come between now and latest and 4 pm. i'll get the latest on the trial of the man charged with manslaughter after four migrants while trying to migrants died while trying to cross first, here's cross the channel. first, here's your news headlines with your latest news headlines with sam francis .

sam francis. >> martin. thank you very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. the headlines just after 3:30, the president of sinn fein says the next few days will be crucial after the dup ended its two year boycott in northern ireland after more than 700 days protesting against post—brexit trade arrangements . post—brexit trade arrangements. the party says they'll now back a deal to restore power sharing if new legislation is passed in parliament. mary lou mcdonald says it's time for the country to come together . the attorney to come together. the attorney general has ordered an inspection into the handling of the nottingham stabbing case by the nottingham stabbing case by the crown prosecution service . the crown prosecution service. it includes a review of the cps decision to accept valdo calocane guilty pleas of manslaughter based on diminished responsibility . victoria prentis responsibility. victoria prentis says the prompt and thorough review is needed to address concerns that were raised by the families of the victims .

families of the victims. passengers have faced more travel disruption today as train drivers launch a fresh wave of walkouts in their long running dispute over pay . train dispute over pay. train operators have been urging passengers to only travel if absolutely necessary . downing absolutely necessary. downing street says it will consider if they can strengthen minimum service level rules after train operators opted not to use the new laws during the strikes as left's general secretary mick whelan, says the government are just giving up trying to resolve the row . a review of supermarket the row. a review of supermarket loyalty schemes is underway to see whether some pricing may mislead or disadvantaged shoppers , as the competition and shoppers, as the competition and markets authority is reviewing schemes including tesco's clubcard and sainsbury's nectar , clubcard and sainsbury's nectar, the uk's antitrust regulator , is the uk's antitrust regulator, is looking into whether it's fair that cheaper prices are available only to members. the review is expected to be finished by the end of this year , and elon musk has announced that the first patient to

receive a groundbreaking brain implant is recovering well. the product, called telepathy, uses a robot to surgically place a computer chip in a region of the brain that controls movement. the billionaire says the first goal of the project is to enable people to control a phone or computer just by thinking, he says. initial tests show promising signs of brain activity , which means patients activity, which means patients with paralysis or other neurological conditions could one day overcome those conditions . and for more on all conditions. and for more on all of those stories , sign up to gb of those stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . for code on your screen. for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , and news financial report, and here's a quick snapshot of today's markets . the pound will today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2661 and ,1.1680. the

price of gold is £1,613.45 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is currently . at 7681 points. currently. at 7681 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> thank you sam. now the trial of an asylum seeker who's charged with manslaughter after four people died while crossing the channel in 2022, has begun today. ibrahim bah is charged with four counts of manslaughter and one count of piloting the boat, facilitating illegal entry to the uk. well, our south—east of england reporter ray addison is at canterbury crown court . is at canterbury crown court. ray, welcome to the show. what's the latest on this harrowing case? well in his opening remarks to the jury this morning, prosecution kc duncan atkinson told them that in the

early hours of wednesday , the early hours of wednesday, the 14th of december, 2022, bah had piloted a non—factory built inflatable from the coast of dunkirk in france into the engush dunkirk in france into the english channel. >> now the boat , he english channel. >> now the boat, he said, was made of very, very low quality material and it's base was not sufficient to hold the weight of its some 43 estimated passengers . in fact, that has been estimated to be double what it would have been safe to have carried. and there was only 30 lifeboat life jackets as well for the passengers . there was no for the passengers. there was no flares, no radio and a complete absence of other safety equipment. now the passengers that were on board that day were from countries including afghanistan , iran and albania. afghanistan, iran and albania. some were younger than 18 years old and at least one had paid £8,000 to make that journey . £8,000 to make that journey. now, bah! crucially, did not have to pay because he was the pilot of the boat. now, the jury heard that the boat quickly started taking on water within

about 30 minutes of leaving dunkirk, it had actually reached the knee level of those on board, and they started to panic. the prosecution says that dunng panic. the prosecution says that during the trial, the jury will hear from one survivor who will claim that bah was driving the boat too fast and had ignored requests to turn back. in fact , requests to turn back. in fact, one will say that he heard him jokingly say, i will either take you there or kill you all. now of course, the boat eventually did start to fold into the bottom of the boat gave way, and all of the passengers ended up in the water. a nearby fishing boat came to their rescue. however, four people did drown, 39 others were taken ashore to doven 39 others were taken ashore to dover. now the prosecution , uh, dover. now the prosecution, uh, is arguing that bah by becoming the pilot, had accepted a duty of care to those on board who relied on him . he that he knew relied on him. he that he knew that the boat was overcrowded

and unsafe, and eventually unseaworthy, but continued going and even when it was abundantly clear that there was an obvious and serious risk of death. now, of course, bah denies all of the charges, but the trial is estimated to last 4 to 5 weeks. >> okay, thank you for that update. that's ray addison at canterbury crown court. thank you very much. now the french farmers protests are continuing. in fact, they're getting even feistier. but could such a thing happen here in blighty ? and happen here in blighty? and would we support our farmers by boycotting this supermarkets who are screwing our farmers to the floor? that's coming right after this. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

people's channel, britain's news channel >> earlier on breakfast rail buses awarding themselves, in some instances a 61% pay rise with £1 million bonuses. >> and yet the customers, the people who want to use the trains are having to endure this relentless strike. hell. >> so very simply , if you can't >> so very simply, if you can't solve a situation , you change solve a situation, you change the rules and force people to take away their human rights to strike until they actually get around table and solve around the table and solve this. >> we're going to end up in >> then we're going to end up in the situation we're now . you the situation we're in now. you can't legislate your way out of these problems. only negotiate. >> time they actually negotiate. >> their time they actually negotiate. >> their mother they actually negotiate. >> their mother th almostally negotiate. >> their mother th almost two saw their mother in almost two weeks was when they came home from here at two windsor. from school here at two windsor. >> i think we can infer from that this has been a quite that that this has been a quite a knock for her.

>> every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join . us. >> welcome back. it's 341. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news at 4:00. i'll bring you our exclusive interview with penny mordaunt . as the former royal mordaunt. as the former royal navy reservist tells us whether she'd fight for king and country if we went to world war three. now we're moving on. local authorities are concerned about the rise in stis or sexually transmitted infections after an increase in cases of chlamydia and syphilis, but with many people feeling awkward about going to the doctor with their infection, there seems to be no end sight . sophie reaper has end in sight. sophie reaper has this report . this report. >> so you've come in for an sti test today. >> a sexual health breaking point . the words of the local point. the words of the local government association as new findings reveal that cases of certain stis have soared in the

last five years, 97% of council areas are reported , an increase areas are reported, an increase in gonorrhoea, 71% in syphilis and some 37% in chlamydia and of course, we need to test because if people believe that they've got any risk of picking up one of these diseases, which can be really detrimental to you, then they should go to a clinic and they should go to a clinic and they should go to a clinic and they should get tested and diagnosed as soon as possible. >> can receive early >> so they can receive early treatment >> since 2013, the number of sexual health consultations has increased by a third as people are urged to take stis more seriously . seriously. >> if you did have an sti , the >> if you did have an sti, the first thing to say is it's quite common that you wouldn't have any symptoms. >> so with chlamydia and gonorrhoea , up to 50% of women gonorrhoea, up to 50% of women don't have symptoms at all, with those with those stis . those with those stis. >> so if you did, if you had that sti but you didn't know about it could cause issues about it, it could cause issues because a you could transmit it to other partners and they wouldn't they wouldn't be aware that they were actually transmitting b, if even

transmitting it. and b, if even if have symptoms for an if you have no symptoms for an sti, can cause issues. sti, it can cause issues. >> demand for >> but as demand for consultations has grown , so has consultations has grown, so has the number of sti cases. one of the number of sti cases. one of the areas worst affected by this growing problem is here in wigan. they've seen their number of gonorrhoea diagnoses skyrocket . by over 350% in the skyrocket. by over 350% in the last five years, but this isn't an isolated incident. it's a growing issue all over the uk , growing issue all over the uk, with the government now being urged to take action to better support local sexual health services. >> i don't like to use the word crisis, but we are very close to a crisis. >> access isn't good enough, there's no doubt about that. and there's no doubt about that. and there's no doubt that that is as a result of reduced funding. so we've had a real terms funding reduction of about £150 million over the last ten years, going to all sexual health services. >> but what do local authorities

feel they need from the government in order to improve access ? access? >> first of all, a ten year sexual health strategy? >> i think we need to know how we're going to deal with this on a so we can start a ten year basis so we can start reducing those numbers. second of get some of all, really is to get some funding sustainable funding. so we know what the funding looks like the next ten years. we like over the next ten years. we can really fund, um, commission services to deal with it. and thirdly, really just to make sure the costs which are sure that the costs which are being by the local being borne by the local authorities, many of whom are in trouble at the moment, as you all really becoming all know, um, really is becoming very these very tight to fund these services authority services with local authority cities close to crisis levels and the number of sti cases continuing to grow, many will feel this is an issue that will require more than just a sticking plaster . sticking plaster. >> sophie reaper gb news, who's. >> sophie reaper gb news, who's. >> okay, well, loads of you have been getting in touch via emails gb views of course at gbnews.com. earlier on i put it to conservative mp jack brereton

for stoke on trent, south that the imf, the international monetary fund of course , are monetary fund of course, are basically telling britain we can't cut our tax rates because we won't hit net zero targets. four years ago tomorrow is the fourth anniversary of brexit day, when we finally , finally day, when we finally, finally left the european union. wasn't that about taking back control of our borders, of our tax and or of our money? and yet here we are again, the imf and unelected international board of globalists telling us what to do. and it's got to be said, it's got you pretty hot under the collar and read out a few of your comments. now, stephen chandler says this. come on, you can't expect the tories to change their stance. playbook, hike taxes to the max. reduce the tiny amounts in election year and promise more and then change their minds as as usual. fair, fair to say steve is at the suspicious end of the spectrum. ben alderson says

this. who on earth asks? the international monetary fund for their opinion? not me. thought not. keep your noses out of our tax . um, and not. keep your noses out of our tax. um, and then lindsey hopkins, because we talked then about net zero isn't part of the problem that we're hiked to these net zero targets, which a lot of people out there are feeling is making us poorer, cold shower and get tax more. how about we just get rid of those targets? after all, when rishi sunak rowed back on scrapping net zero, he enjoyed a 4% boom in the polls quickly. lindsay hopkins says this scrap those obscene , obscene net zero those obscene, obscene net zero targets. it's making us colder, poorer and is moving us backwards . so a lot of you been backwards. so a lot of you been getting stuck on that. and please keep your views coming in. and this one here, we've already had a bunch on this. it's about french farmers it's about those french farmers protests we saw last week. i've been covering this story since

the start. the spirit of revolution is high in france , revolution is high in france, and since then it's got bigger and since then it's got bigger and bigger. and now they're besieging paris as they take action over their low income. the government's punitive environmental policies and european union red tape that blocking motorways leading into the french capital. as we can see on screen, there . and i've see on screen, there. and i've been aiming to encircle paris with barricades using large tractors and mounds of hay bales. in fact , they've been bales. in fact, they've been doing more than that. they've been spraying silage over town halls, they've been dumping dung outside. council offices. it's fair to say the gelasian spirit is really, really taking hold in france . and the farmers are not france. and the farmers are not taking no for an answer. in fact , emmanuel macron dispatched his prime minister to three farms of the weekend trying to talk these boys down. it didn't work. they're in no mood to negotiate .

they're in no mood to negotiate. basically, what happened? is there hiking the taxation rates on agricultural diesel, the red diesel that we use in britain as well. and these farmers are simply saying enough is enough. added to that , um, the red tape added to that, um, the red tape they're facing from the european union has ridiculous things like the minimum width of chicken pens and some ditches and dykes and the differences can be a matter of inches . some of them matter of inches. some of them must be dredged , some of them must be dredged, some of them must be dredged, some of them must be dredged, some of them must be left alone on parts of land, must be left for rewilding. if you don't obey any of this, of course you get slapped with a fine . it's got so slapped with a fine. it's got so ridiculous now in france, we spoke to , um, charles—henri spoke to, um, charles—henri gallois , who's the leader of gallois, who's the leader of generation frexit , a paris based generation frexit, a paris based political activist . and political activist. and basically he said to us yesterday, it's now got so bad that french farmers are spending two days or even three days a week filling out paperwork instead of tending to their

land. the situation is getting completely out of control and they are now in circling paris with the vision of blocking eight main roads into paris and sieging, the city, stopping food, getting in, stopping petroleum, moving in and giving the urbanites a taste of their own medicine . because it's time, own medicine. because it's time, we believe, for the same kind of copycat protest to head to the uk. but is the will there? and as the french farmers target aldi and lidl because of their low prices, will the great british public back british farmers by boycotting the same discount supermarkets that are screwing our farmers to the floor? i can now speak with one of those farmers, arable farmer andrew ward. andrew, welcome to the show. thank you so much for joining us in france. there revolting. they've had enough. they've had enough of low profit margins, cheap imports being screwed to the floor by

retailers. and they're taking to the streets and sieging paris. the question is could or should the same thing happen in britain ? >> well, 7— >> well, yes. >> well, yes. >> hello and thanks for having me on. first of all, to mention all the things that the french are not happy with are exactly the same things that we're not happy with here in the uk. so thatis happy with here in the uk. so that is right. but the problem we have, we've got a big difference here in that the laws and regulations that we have would not allow us to go to the extremes and the levels of , i extremes and the levels of, i would call them destruction that we're seeing on the screen at the moment. we wouldn't get very far at all if we went to that level. >> and i think there are ways of doing things and there are ways of doing and we do of not doing things. and we do need highlight the plight need to highlight the plight we're home we're going through because home produced food is massively important. produced food is massively imfbutint. produced food is massively imfbut the biggest problem we've >> but the biggest problem we've got what we want to got and what we want to highlight, that it's all highlight, is that it's all about fairness and fairness in the supply chain, and we don't want the british public to pay more food.

more for food. >> food is expensive enough as it is, but what we want is we want some of the huge profits that the retailers are making . that the retailers are making. >> want that to be handed >> we want that to be handed back down the supply back down to us, down the supply chain, farmers produce chain, to us farmers who produce the food . the food. >> and i think few people listening and watching show listening and watching this show would disagree with that. that seems absolutely fair. a fair day's wage for a fair day's work and a fair profit margin should be the basis of any business. now, with that in mind , and now, with that in mind, and which retailers are the fairest to farmers and which retailers do you think our viewers could , do you think our viewers could, if you like, sidestep and avoid them because they're not being fair to your industry? >> well, i think there are some notable ones and they all have produced or provide and produced big profits. >> and i think tesco is one that's come out with record record profits. >> and there are some that don't support farmers as much as others. >> but i think the problem we've got, uh, when you start to look at it, is that it's all this fairness and we need to make

sure that the food we produce is recognised , because the problem recognised, because the problem we've that our costs have we've got is that our costs have risen round about 30% in the last 3 or 4 years for producing food, yet we're actually receiving less than we received 3 or 4 years ago. >> and yet the supermarkets have increased their profits. that clearly isn't right. >> the food we produce here in this country is amongst the healthiest. it's the most environmentally friendly produced in the world. and if we see our farmers, if we see our food production system diminishing, all that would mean is more input. >> that's that's produced to lower standards than we produce in this country. so it's all about fairness and handing it down to the producers and everyone will be agreeing with that furious andrew as they listen to this . listen to this. >> so what can we do as customers? how can we help you? how can make a difference as how can we make a difference as punters? well i think just before that, before we get on to that, i think the problem we've got is that the level of, that if we go to the level of, of, of, um, demand that we've

seen france and other seen in france and other countries i think we're in countries where i think we're in danger of actually doing damage to the farmer's reputation because at the moment i think we have good support from the british public. >> and if we go too hard and do too damage, uh , and affect too much damage, uh, and affect their daily lives too much, i think that support would soon wane. but i think it's just we need to look by british. british food in the supermarkets support british agriculture and realise that what we're doing, we have to protect protecting our industry , not just for ourselves industry, not just for ourselves but for the future generations as well. it's a massive , massive as well. it's a massive, massive job we've got on our hands. i totally agree, andrew ward. >> let's have this conversation in another time. we do in another time. we should do all can support the all we can to support the magnificent british farmer by british and make sure that you lads and you ladies get that a fair working wage. and don't screw to floor the big screw to the floor by the big retailers spirit retailers and the spirit of france is channelled right next hour we've got penny mordaunt with an exclusive . i'm martin with an exclusive. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's

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gb news. >> good afternoon . it's 4 pm. >> good afternoon. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. today i've got an exclusive interview with penny mordaunt to find out whether she'd fight for her country if we went to war, and what she's had to say, of course, about prime minister rishi sunak. and there's reaction the alarming report reaction to the alarming report that says the uk's population is

expected to soar by an astonishing 6 million plus in the next 12 years, and a company owned by elon musk has implanted a microchip in a human's brain. is this a brave new world or something very , very scary and something very, very scary and sinister indeed . that's all sinister indeed. that's all coming in your next hour. sinister indeed. that's all coming in your next hour . thanks coming in your next hour. thanks for joining me on the show. to forjoining me on the show. to great have your company. i want to hear your opinions as ever. vaiews@gbnews.com. we've had a load of response already to soaring immigration, the international monetary fund poking its nose into our taxation affairs and is it time for a french farmers style revolution in britain? please send me your thoughts on all of that and read out the best, as long as you keep them clean. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst.

>> martin, thank you and good afternoon . the top story today, afternoon. the top story today, the democratic unionist party in northern ireland has backed a deal with the uk government on post—brexit trade agreements, which could potentially see power sharing restored by friday. the deal aims to end the nearly two year stormont boycott . we're expecting the full details of the proposed agreement, to be published tomorrow . westminster's northern tomorrow. westminster's northern ireland secretary says the agreement is a welcome and significant step , while sinn significant step, while sinn fein's leader says she's optimist about its future. the dup leader, sir jeffrey donaldson, said the deal will bnng donaldson, said the deal will bring a real change for the country. >> we will work with all the parties in the executive to deliver real change for northern ireland, change that benefits everyone in northern ireland. as ihave everyone in northern ireland. as i have said consistently throughout this period, i want an outcome that both unionists and nationalists can support. well the president of sinn fein, mary lou mcdonald , says the next

mary lou mcdonald, says the next few days will be crucial and a warning the following clip does contain some flashing images. >> there has been a great sigh of relief, but also a sense of expectation. >> now that all of us together for the common good, put our shoulder to the wheel and get the best job done that we possibly can for every single person living here in the north. and of course, by extension, this is a great news story for all of ireland . this is an all of ireland. this is an important, uh, this is an important, uh, this is an important part of the governance structure on our island. and it is a very welcome moment that we are here. >> well, in other news, today, the uk's total population is set to hit 70 million due to immigration. that's a decade sooner than expected as well. new ons figures project that immigration is due to add an extra 6.1 million people to the uk population by 2036. the ons

is head of population james roberts says it shows the likelihood of higher levels of international migration over the long terme than in previous estimates, and it comes as the government says new visa changes will make a tangible difference to migration figures . as the to migration figures. as the attorney general has ordered a review of the handling of the nottingham stabbing case by the crown prosecution service . it crown prosecution service. it includes an examination of the cps decision to accept valdo calocane guilty pleas of manslaughter, based on diminished responsibility, rather than murder. the attorney general says the prompt and thorough review is needed to address concerns raised by the families of the victims, who said calocane had got away with murder . said calocane had got away with murder. nottinghamshire police has also been criticised for missing opportunities to stop calocane, who was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia at the time of the attacks . the uk's time of the attacks. the uk's economy is projected to grow at a slower rate than expected over

the next two years. the international monetary fund says the uk will be the second worst performer in the g7 this year, with just 0.6% growth, while the imf says the uk economy is seeing growth as inflation drops, it warns ongoing attacks in the red sea could introduce new shocks to the global economy . passengers have faced more travel disruption as aslef union train drivers launched a fresh wave of walkouts in their long running dispute over pay train operators have been urging passengers to only travel if absolutely necessary . downing absolutely necessary. downing street says it will consider strengthening minimum service levels after train operators opted not to use the new law dunng opted not to use the new law during strikes . shadow health during strikes. shadow health secretary wes streeting says the government isn't doing enough . government isn't doing enough. >> i think it's appalling that despite the untold misery that has been inflicted on passengers, the secretary of state has not pulled his finger out to sit around the table

himself with the railway unions to negotiate an end to this misery . i to negotiate an end to this misery. i think it's a disgrace that under this government we have seen poorer rail services at higher costs and higher fares, rip off fares , in fact, fares, rip off fares, in fact, and the workforce is also feeling utterly miserable about the future of our railway network. >> wes streeting now, a review of supermarket loyalty schemes is underway to see whether some pricing may mislead or disadvantage stage shoppers. the competition and markets authority is reviewing schemes including tesco's clubcard and sainsbury's nectar card , the sainsbury's nectar card, the uk's antitrust regulator, is looking into whether it's fair that cheaper prices are available only to members . the available only to members. the review is expected to be finished by the end of the year. now a monkey that's been on the run in scotland has been sighted this morning as efforts continue to bring him home, thermal imaging drones have been used in the hunt for the japanese

macaque, which found a way out of its enclosure at the wildlife park in the highlands on sunday. it's not considered dangerous. we're told, but the authorities are advising members of the pubuc are advising members of the public against approaching the animal and encouraging any sightings to be reported to them. we'll keep you up to date on that one. and of course, all the latest stories. why not sign up for our gb news alerts if you're watching on tv, you can scan the qr code on your screen. right now. is gb news, right now. this is gb news, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> thank you paulie. now we start this hour with our exclusive interview with penny mordaunt. your country needs you. well that's the message from the former defence secretary and the leader of the house of commons, penny mordaunt, has been speaking to our political editor, chris hope . and this is what she said when chris asked her as a royal chris asked her if, as a royal navy reservist, she'd be ready to fight for our country if called for war. so look, i have

signed up to do this in the past. >> i have to say , chris, if >> i have to say, chris, if they're if they're calling on me at any point , they're if they're calling on me at any point, we are they're if they're calling on me at any point , we are really they're if they're calling on me at any point, we are really in trouble. but but look, i, in all seriousness , we need to be seriousness, we need to be a resilient nation. and that doesn't mean stepping up to pick up a rifle . what it means is up a rifle. what it means is that on anything that might happen to us in the future, we want our communities to be able to respond to that. when i rewrote this nation's resilience strategy, standing up a civil defence force to be able to deal with some of the things that we currently ask our armed forces to do was part of that suggestion, and we can take pressure off our armed forces by becoming more resilient ourselves . and that is something ourselves. and that is something important that we should do. you have been in this office before covering my campaign to build three new ships that assets , three new ships that assets, civilian assets. but for the government to have call on if they need to. that could take

pressure off our fleet, our navy. so these are the sorts of things we should be looking at doing . doing. >> great stuff. well, later in the hour i'll bring you the full interview with penny mordaunt. she told us why she's backing also a campaign for a memorial statue to honour british soldiers who fought to end slave three. well, i'm joined now by the man who conducted that sizzling exclusive gb news political editor christopher hope. and i'm also joined in the studio by labour for studio by the labour mp for birmingham, perry barr, khalid mahmood. to you both, mahmood. welcome to you both, gents. first, let's turn to you, chris. so hms morden in full steam there on good form . and steam there on good form. and the question i want to ask you is a lot of people, including no doubt this gentleman here are saying, penny mordaunt is the leader of the labour party. fear the most . why? the most. why? >> yeah, the shadow cabinet ministers are telling me that they think i'm sure they're they think i'm not sure they're trying trouble the trying to stir trouble for the current incumbent. rishi sunak , current incumbent. rishi sunak, but they think that she does

connect. she is a strong leader . connect. she is a strong leader. she has a different way, i think of reaching to base, of reaching out to the base, reaching maybe out from the area where tories traditionally find support . but she was she ran , support. but she was she ran, um, liz truss quite close . um, liz truss quite close. >> she, she, she was, you know, in talks about maybe taking on rishi sunak when he became a prime minister. >> she's someone who does have support out there. and the labour worry about her labour party do worry about her in that answer there she talks. you know, unashamedly her. you know, unashamedly to her. it's not a question to ask it's not a silly question to ask would your country would you fight for your country because naval because she is a naval reservist? has is reservist? she has she is trained in this stuff. she knows about sacrifice. and she talks about sacrifice. and she talks about in a grown up way, about quite in a grown up way, really, about a civil defence force ensuring that if our telecoms structures are taken out, restore them out, we can restore them ourselves work together to ourselves and work together to help country. help protect this country. but i think did ask about think she's i did ask her about the speech she made at the despatch when she despatch box last week when she listed the all of the listed all the all of the qualities of rishi sunak she qualities of rishi sunak and she she a labour line of she sees it as a labour line of attack against the pm. not one, i but it's a tory mp

i said, but it's a tory mp saying it. penny, not not laboun saying it. penny, not not labour, she says. well, that's on think he on policy. they think that he should she's been should be leader. so she's been very loyal in public. >> okay. khalid mahmood, let's turn mp turn to you now, a labour mp that in here last week said, that was in here last week said, yeah, mordaunt . she might yeah, penny mordaunt. she might give trouble. what give us a bit of trouble. what is it about penny mordaunt that gives collywobbles? is it about penny mordaunt that giv< i ; collywobbles? is it about penny mordaunt that giv> it was absolutely fantastic. >> it was absolutely fantastic. >> so it's just it's rising to the occasion. that's the key thing. the occasion. that's the key thiryeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> been able rise the occasion. >> uh, as chris has said, she's, uh, a naval reservist. >> she's all the right >> she's got all the right credentials. want credentials. and you want somebody to somebody who's connected to the people somebody who's connected to the peoand i think for that reason, >> and i think for that reason, it'll be good to have her as the leader opposition. leader of the opposition. >> when come government. leader of the opposition. >> canen come government. leader of the opposition. >> can i come government. leader of the opposition. >> can i ask come government. leader of the opposition. >> can i ask com about government. leader of the opposition. >> can i ask com about g(superb3nt. >> can i ask you about a superb line that gets is this, line that chris gets is this, um, erecting of a statue at portsmouth harbour ? of course. portsmouth harbour? of course. that's where she's an mp for the west african squadron on the so—called preventative squadron , so—called preventative squadron, who took to the seas to help end

the slave trade. now the slave trade is something that the labour party, the liberal left, like to weaponize against britain. our our so—called shameful role in, in slavery. do you think that erecting a statue to mark britain's involvement in ending slavery is appropriate ? ending slavery is appropriate? well, i think it is. >> it was a horrendous trade. >> it was a horrendous trade. >> and what we did in what those soldiers did, you know, in order to bring that to an end, i think needs to be celebrated, needs to be out. be pointed out. >> moved on for the next >> we've moved on for the next 150 odd that we've had 150 odd years. that we've had now, we move on now, and we want to move on further forward and integrate where are now integrated . where we are now integrated. >> and we should remember our history, important thing history, the important thing of the kingdom is there's the united kingdom is there's been ups downs in history, been ups and downs in history, but people, people but all our people, young people growing up, should know those ups and downs. >> critics of this, um, >> a lot of critics of this, um, statue might say that it's britain and, um, slave washing . britain and, um, slave washing. its its dirty past. do you think that certain people from your side of the political spectrum would like to rip down statues has to be said, might take umbrage this?

has to be said, might take um well, this? has to be said, might take um well, no, his? has to be said, might take um well, no, iis? has to be said, might take um well, no, i say, as i've said >> well, no, i say, as i've said before, this is our history. we have to recognise the good and the bad of our history. >> we, our children, must understand that so we don't go back there again . back there again. >> and this is an issue >> and i think this is an issue that we need to discuss. and it's important that we do that in a serious environment. >> i turn now >> okay. can i turn to you now on other matters? immigration figures out today. on other matters? immigration figures out today . um, it's figures out today. um, it's predicted 6 million more to come to the uk by 2036. a 10 million to the uk by 2036. a10 million boost, 74 million. and we've all been agreeing. can britain cope with this? and so the big question is the big question is do the labour party want to do anything about this? a lot of people think labour party will be an open borders party when you get in. well absolutely you guys get in. well absolutely not. you guys get in. well absolutely not one things i'll tell >> one of the things i'll tell you i'm doing in my you that i'm doing in my constituency speaking to constituency is i'm speaking to the more of the dwp and getting more of our young that young people, those that don't finish education in schools, getting getting getting them trained and getting them employment . them into employment. >> one the key things is that >> one of the key things is that we our young people

we have to get our young people into training and employment. we're the we're not doing that. the government supported us government hasn't supported us with that, and i'm trying to do my able to get there. my best to be able to get there. >> if you do that, we'll >> and if you do that, we'll have less, uh, immigration coming through. we'll coming through. and what we'll have we do have an issue have is but we do have an issue of life for the of longevity, of life for the older now, because the older people now, because the medicine, that medicine, the improvements that we've national health service. >> so that will add that. but >> so that will add to that. but what we need to do to support what we need to do is to support our own people to get the get the that need. the jobs that we need. >> ask what labour >> chris, can i ask what labour would do in terms of net migration? >> the government's >> now, the government's going to measures to bring to try and do measures to bring down maybe down net migration to maybe 400,000. they go, go 400,000. would they be go, go less these forecasts less than that? these forecasts are there'll be up to 73 are saying there'll be up to 73 million people living here by 2036. what would a labour government do? would it try and bnng government do? would it try and bring below 100,000 like bring it down below 100,000 like the to do failed? >> well, i think what labour will and this is a key thing will do, and this is a key thing that certainly hope for with that i'm certainly hope for with the uh, the shadow chancellor, uh, and, and business secretary and, and the business secretary and, uh, dwp , uh, secretary of state uh, dwp, uh, secretary of state is to look at how we can further engage with our people, young people, into employment and take

those jobs up. but there will be a need for some skilled trades to come in. and the more of our own people we train, the lesser those people will come in. >> what's your number, though , >> what's your number, though, to ask you? >> i certainly very >> i will certainly be very happy less than less than happy with less than less than 100,000, need to work at 100,000, but we need to work at that we need training i >> -- >> we need the proper resources into those places to get those young working. into those places to get those youyour working. into those places to get those youyour party working. into those places to get those youyour party manifesto . >> your party manifesto. >> your party manifesto. >> well, certainly would like >> well, i certainly would like and think labour is and i think the labour party is moving that. yes. and moving towards that. yes. and that's an astonishing thing. moving towards that. yes. and tha you're astonishing thing. moving towards that. yes. and tha you're basically g thing. moving towards that. yes. and tha you're basically agreeing >> you're basically agreeing with farage sorts with nigel farage on the sorts of don't with of numbers i don't agree with much with nigel farage, but i have with him. have a conversation with him. >> what is about, what >> but what this is about, what nigel from a different nigel is coming from a different perspective. my perspective is that to get our young that we need to get our young people into education and training so they can take those jobs , reduce those figures of jobs, reduce those figures of unemployment people no unemployment with people with no qualifications, get that through and people back into and get our people back into work properly. and get our people back into wor okay, ierly. and get our people back into worokay, canny, let's talk about >> okay, canny, let's talk about some figures. there's the some more figures. there's the furious back pedalling. furious sound of back pedalling. as as see about as far as i can see it, about this £28 billion that the labour party keeps pledging to green

issues, to net zero issues. and when rachel reeves is probed on where the money is going to come from today, she now says this is an ambition . well, i've got an an ambition. well, i've got an ambition to an astronaut . ambition to be an astronaut. >> think you and i are >> well, i think you and i are a bit difficult to get there for the factor , but apart from the age factor, but apart from that , think the age factor, but apart from that, think she's saying that, i think what she's saying is right. to pick is quite right. we have to pick up tab. is quite right. we have to pick up tab . after this up the tab. after this government is left, we have to see coffers and see what's in the coffers and what we can do. and it would be irresponsible for rachel to say give a complete commitment. we want this . this is how want to do this. this is how we're going to sort out energy issues. >> it sounds like flip flopping. it like vagary. it sounds it sounds like vagary. it sounds like paying lip service to net zero and green issues and then realising actually the biscuit tin going to be completely realising actually the biscuit tin gand| to be completely realising actually the biscuit tin gand| to ican'tnpletely realising actually the biscuit tin gand| to ican't afford ly realising actually the biscuit tin gand| to ican't afford it. empty and you can't afford it. and is what people and that is what people often repeatedly say is the labour party's problem. you make party's problem. you can make massive promises, but there's no money them. money to fund them. >> the parliament has been >> but the parliament has been is government has is that this government has emptied out the tin. >> so what we're going to >> and so what we're going to have is look that. how have to do is look at that. how quickly replace the cash quickly we can replace the cash in get very, in the tin and get those very, very ambitious projects on the

road. well i mean, the problem is the concerns are going to be you are going to have to wind that down. >> when will you hit that figure of 28 billion? will it be the of 28 billion? will it be in the second half of the next parliament? it would. >> look, i mean, i'm not on the front bench, take my, front bench, so take my, uh, view want, but certainly view as you want, but certainly in terms of that, yes, we would look that. engineering look to do that. engineering is a potential, especially look to do that. engineering is a engineering. specially look to do that. engineering is a engineering. it'llially look to do that. engineering is a engineering. it'll bring green engineering. it'll bring more our people more of our people into employment. and the quicker we do 28 do that, it's not about 28 billion being wasted. it's about first energy, second for first for energy, second for employment. and that be employment. and that would be a good thing to do. >> today, the international monetary waded in, monetary fund has waded in, sticking nose into britain's sticking its nose into britain's taxation policy, saying jeremy hunt shouldn't taxes because hunt shouldn't cut taxes because it won't mean that there's enough the bank sure enough in the bank to make sure we fulfil our net zero targets. a lot of people in france we've been seeing getting fed up of net zero targets, british people are getting fed up of the notion, many that contact this show that it's making them poorer. it's making them colder. it's making them hungrier. poorer. it's making them colder. it's making them hungrier . and it's making them hungrier. and yet labour stapled onto

yet labour seems stapled onto this notion of outdoing the conservatives on net zero. is that the right route to follow? >> well, look, my personal view is there are issues in relation to some of the car emissions that some of the people had that some of the people have had , putting amounts of , putting huge amounts of taxation on individuals and people who can least afford that. am that . i've that. i am not for that. i've been it. not now for been against it. not now for almost for the ten years. almost for the last ten years. in relation to that, we need to move forward and we need to look at can support through at how we can support through this crisis. uh, with this living crisis. uh, with people that we have. >> and yet in birmingham, the council is ripping up car parks. it's making it very, very difficult get difficult for people to get around. your city is already a clean zone birmingham. clean air zone in birmingham. birmingham sadiq birmingham is following sadiq khan's lead waging war on motorists. >> well, i'm certainly i was against clean air zone and i against the clean air zone and i made much of a protest as i made as much of a protest as i possibly could. uh, and i'm continuing continuely happy continuing continuely not happy about has come about this news that has come out . uh, and i about this news that has come out. uh, and i will oppose that as as i can. need to get as much as i can. we need to get our vulnerable people who our most vulnerable people who need not for leisure or need a car. not for leisure or pleasure, who need their cars for their livelihoods and employ

it. and we want to get them involved. it. and we want to get them inv> great, sir. well, i think a lot people would agree with lot of people would agree with that. again, it comes that. but then again, it comes back trust. angela back to trust. we had angela rayner television saying the rayner on television saying the clean air will to clean air zone will come to every city near you and every town and city near you and a labour government. can the voters on this? look voters trust you on this? look what the voters are trusting at the moment . the moment. >> at the last by—election that we had for boris johnson's, uh, from ranging from that, people voted against ulez care, understood the feeling of the people and he wants to look at this in a very different way. and that's important. >> what they want is a pragmatic approach, don't they? they don't want sort dogma want to have just sort of dogma driving policy, but to listen to maybe in the ulez zone , it's maybe in the ulez zone, it's white, white van men and women who can't get to work with their tools. >> and these are the kinds of people that are phoning sadiq khanin people that are phoning sadiq khan in london, saying they can't go work, they khan in london, saying they can't afford go work, they khan in london, saying they can't afford to go work, they khan in london, saying they can't afford to feed work, they khan in london, saying they can't afford to feed their(, they khan in london, saying they can't afford to feed their kidsey can't afford to feed their kids in this war, and motorists. khalid mahmood if you're if the labour trusted labour party can be trusted on that, be a vote winner, that, it will be a vote winner, surely. there's a feeling surely. but there's a feeling that's sir

that's not the case. well sir keir has made a statement on keir has has made a statement on this after the election by—election what to by—election and what we want to do forward and look at do is move forward and look at that and see where it applies, where there are sufficient at air quality, which is good enough to deal with that. >> we should then look at whether are needed . whether these issues are needed. there are different categories of air zones d in of clean air zones d in birmingham is the most stringent that they have, but they're lesser quality zones that we can look at. >> okay. speaking common sense khalid mahmood, mp for perry borbone, thank you very much. and hope. and of course chris hope. always a and reminder that a pleasure and a reminder that we'll you that full we'll bring you that full exclusive interview fellow we'll bring you that full exclwithe interview fellow we'll bring you that full exclwith penny iew fellow we'll bring you that full exclwith penny mordaunt..low did with penny mordaunt. a little later in this hour . and little later in this hour. and there's plenty of coverage on our website, gbnews.com. you've helped to make it the fastest growing in growing national news website in the thank you very the country, so thank you very much. it's time for the much. now it's time for the great british giveaway and really, you could be our next winner with 18 grand in cold hard cash up for grabs. fancy a chance to win that? well, here's all the details that you need to enter . enter. >> this is your chance to win

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scunthorpe . scunthorpe. >> welcome back. it's 425. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news news. now later this hour i'll get reaction to the news that the decision to charge valdo calocane manslaughter calocane with manslaughter rather than murder is being reviewed now. a man in his 30s who was reportedly armed with a crossbow , has been shot dead by crossbow, has been shot dead by armed police in south—east london, a reporter, christina curtis, is at the scene. welcome to the show , christina. an to the show, christina. an alarming case. what's the latest? >> we know armed officers arrived here. yes >> so the latest is we've actually just found and gathered some exclusive footage. so hopefully you'll see it on screen now. and what this footage shows is that it's in the early hours of this morning at around 5 am, the amount of officers that were here now , we officers that were here now, we spoke to eyewitnesses who said that they saw about 30 to 40

officers, one resident said he was woken up by some loud banging. he actually heard what he believes is the officer's breaking down the door and said, you can just see in this footage , you know, the amount of police activity . you see officers activity. you see officers putting up cordons and the flashing lights , the amount of flashing lights, the amount of police vehicles just to show how quickly they were responding to this incident. quickly they were responding to this incident . so what we know this incident. so what we know so far is that a man in his 30s was was , was here, um, was was, was here, um, threatening to break into a property and, and harm the residents . he property and, and harm the residents. he had a property and, and harm the residents . he had a crossbow on residents. he had a crossbow on him and the met police arrived. they say around 5 am. the officers were unarmed at the time. so um, they actually called for backup because they said that they were being threatened by the man. and they said when the arm office officers arrived, the man was actually in the building . um, so actually in the building. um, so they had to react. and that resulted in the man being shot. they said he did receive first aid at the scene, but did pass

away . um, we've been speaking to away. um, we've been speaking to residents here all day , and residents here all day, and there's been a real sense of shock in the community. you know, as we can see in this footage, this was a huge incident that was taking place. and police have been here all day. you we've been day. you know, we've been walking um, in between walking around, um, in between hits and the size of the police cordon is huge . um, and there's cordon is huge. um, and there's actually reports, you know, it will be here for some will probably be here for some time . um, the ipp i pc is also time. um, the ipp i pc is also involved as well, so there's a lot of investigation is taking place. we've seen forensics coming in and out as it actually , um, you can see behind me, forensics are coming out just now, so there's a real big hub, and the air here is that people are really shocked, actually, that something, um, of this size has happened even as we've just been stood here, the amount of residents that come up and, you know, can't really believe what's happened. so it's a real, real serious and shock what's happened. so it's a real, retthe serious and shock what's happened. so it's a real, retthe community. and shock what's happened. so it's a real, retthe community. buti shock what's happened. so it's a real, retthe community. but as|ock what's happened. so it's a real, retthe community. but as you to the community. but as you say, a lot of police activity, um, early this morning and

um, both early this morning and taking place now. so it will be something that , um, something that, um, investigations be underway investigations will be underway for quite while. okay for quite a while. okay >> christina curtis, thank you for that update from south—east london. a man shot dead with a crossbow police and some crossbow by police and some exclusive footage there of that huge police operation . now let's huge police operation. now let's go back to northern ireland, where the democratic unionist party has finally backed a deal aimed at addressing its concerns over post—brexit trade barriers. it means power sharing could finally resume within in a matter of days. but the big question is has the dup betrayed brexit? that's the question. now i'd like to ask our northern ireland reporter, dougie beattie , who is at stormont, dougie, that's the big question. the dealis that's the big question. the deal is done. but is it a betrayal of brexit? >> well, martin, you talk about brexit. most unionists here, the unionists here actually backed brexit and they feel that westminster threw them under the bus. if you like , because the bus. if you like, because the deal was put through the protocol by boris johnson was

put through . and then the put through. and then the framework document which left them inside eu regulations and very much caught inside the eu single market. and no matter how many times they tried to bring it back to westminster, they couldn't get the backing for it. so what they've had to do is try and dig themselves out of the hole. and this seems to be the way out for them. it is not a perfect deal by any stretch of the imagination, but it does get northern ireland up and running once more. we haven't seen the real minutia of this deal. we haven't seen what is really in the small print to have a look and see, just how far jeffrey donaldson has brought the eu. he is saying that there will be no more greenland checks that will be done away with no physical checks and anything coming through those green lanes, but most to northern most importantly to northern ireland is the relationship with the uk single market. 70% of our

our , uh, wealth comes from the our, uh, wealth comes from the uk and 70% of our commerce comes in and out of the uk rather than the eu, and it has caused huge problems for business man , problems for business man, fracturing, farming, etc. here. and even in the latest deal it actually, if you look for it in the pacific grim deal it says on it uk trade deal and then when you go to the notes at the back it says not applicable to northern so we know northern ireland. so we know that it appears have been able to get around that. there's a few derogations have been put in place, uh, to make that place, uh, to make sure that we can part of that. so if he can be part of that. so if he has achieved that , if that has has achieved that, if that has came to pass for financially, it is a good deal for northern ireland. there are those like lists and unionists in northern ireland that are very aggravated because they say that it is actually , uh, still a actually, uh, still a constitutional issue and they feel that because the article six acts of the union have gone on, that, well, maybe their britishness has also gone, but

going back to the business of governing northern ireland, mary lou mcdonald, the leader of sinn fein, and of course, her deputy, uh, michelle o'neill, will now become the first minister of northern ireland and this is what she had to say earlier . what she had to say earlier. >> there has been a great sigh of relief , but also a sense of of relief, but also a sense of expectation now that all of us together for the common good, put our shoulder to the wheel and get the best job done that we possibly for can every single person living here in the north. >> and of course, by extension, this is a great news story for all of ireland. this is an important , all of ireland. this is an important, uh, this is an important, uh, this is an important part of the governance structure on our island, and it is a very welcome moment that we are . here. are. here. >> of a very long day here in stormont for me. but tomorrow , stormont for me. but tomorrow, all eyes will be on that. documents that are published by the british government.

>> okay. dougie beattie. thank you. on that latest from stormont. finally, a breakthrough in northern ireland. now there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00 and a few minutes, i'll bnng 5:00 and a few minutes, i'll bring our exclusive bring you our exclusive live interview penny mordaunt in interview with penny mordaunt in full. but first, here's your latest with polly latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . well let's start middlehurst. well let's start these latest headlines and show you the latest pictures we've got out of what's been happening in south east london. >> a man in his 30s, armed with a crossbow has been shot dead by police. there and these pictures show unarmed aid officers arriving at the scene as they attempted to deal with the situation in this all happening in the early hours of this morning. and those police officers that you can see there, if you're watching on tv, were soon joined by an official crack team of armed police officers who then shot and killed the man who then shot and killed the man who we believe was in his 30s, the police, saying he'd been the met police, saying he'd been trying to force his way into one

of the buildings there in surrey quays. armed quays. he was reportedly armed with weapons and threatening to harm residents inside the address. those exclusive pictures just put into us here at gb news of what was happening in the early hours of this morning as police arrived to deal with and contain a man in his armed a crossbow . his 30s armed with a crossbow. armed officers came in and that man has been shot dead. more details on that, of course, as we get it. in the meantime, you've just been hearing about what's been happening in northern ireland and the president of sinn fein said northern ireland and the presnextt of sinn fein said northern ireland and the presnext few sinn fein said northern ireland and the presnext few days fein said northern ireland and the presnext few days will said northern ireland and the presnext few days will be said the next few days will be crucial . after dup crucial. well, after the dup ended its two year boycott in northern ireland after more than 700 days without government protesting against post—brexit trade agreements. the party now says they'll back a deal to restore power sharing if new legislation is passed in parliament. mary lynn mcdonald saying it is a time for the country to come together . air. country to come together. air. rail passengers have been facing more travel disruption today as aslef union train drivers

launched a fresh wave of walkouts in their long running dispute over pay. train operators have been urging passengers to only travel if absolutely necessary . downing absolutely necessary. downing street says it's going to consider if it can strengthen minimum service level rules after train operators opted not to use the new law during strikes . aslef general secretary strikes. aslef general secretary mick whelan says the government are giving up trying to resolve the row , and a review of the row, and a review of supermarket loyalty schemes is underway , which will consider underway, which will consider whether some pricing could mislead or disadvantage some shoppers. the competition and markets authority is reviewing programs including tesco's clubcard card and sainsbury's nectar card , the uk's antitrust nectar card, the uk's antitrust regulator . now looking at regulator. now looking at whether or not it's fair that cheaper prices are only available to members . the review available to members. the review expected to be finished by the end of the year. those are the headunes end of the year. those are the headlines for greater detail on all those stories, head to our website gbnews.com. and if you fancy getting free gb news alerts, just scan the qr code on

your screen right now . your screen right now. >> thank you polly. superb as even >> thank you polly. superb as ever. now, as promised, i can bnng ever. now, as promised, i can bring you our exclusive interview with penny mordaunt in full. the leader of the house of commons told our political edhon commons told our political editor, christopher hope, why she's backing a bid to build a statue that would honour the people served in the west people who served in the west africa squadron , a naval unit africa squadron, a naval unit which enforced the abolition of slavery . slavery. >> penny mordaunt, why do we need this statue? and do you worry? it's whitewashed history. >> it's not at all. it's really important that we tell the whole story about our history. and i'm very grateful to colin and his team for standing up this initiative. the west africa squadron. it's been described as the most expensive moral action ever undertaken , and it helped ever undertaken, and it helped bnng ever undertaken, and it helped bring about the end of the transatlantic slave trade . about transatlantic slave trade. about 1500 men lost their lives doing

it, and that is a major part of our history . and we should be our history. and we should be talking about their legacy . talking about their legacy. >> and, colin kemp, you're raising the money for this statue. >> why? why do you think the work the african work of the west african squadron has been forgotten? >> that's a very good question. >> that's a very good question. >> know, a keen >> i don't know, i'm a keen historian. came across historian. ian and i came across the african squadron the west african squadron by accident at, and i hadn't heard of it before. so i did some investigation and it's as penny said, something should said, it's something that should be because memorial be told because the memorial should two things. should do two things. >> one, it should remind people of sailors who lost their of the sailors who lost their lives and secondly, should lives and secondly, it should remind people britain was remind people that britain was the first country to ban slavery. we did with own slavery. we did it with our own men, own money our own men, our own money and our own ships should be proud of that. >> and penny mordaunt, should the of its role in the uk be proud of its role in ending slavery? do you worry ending slavery? but do you worry that ignores the long period before we an before that, when we were an active participant slave trade? >> well, i think as a nation we tend not to like show offs. we're quite modest about our achievements the we're the achievements with the we're the first people to of do first people to sort of do ourselves down. i think that ourselves down. and i think that needs to change, particularly

with with certain parts of our history . and this is important, history. and this is important, as colin says, to commemorate that legacy and commemorate those that lost their lives . but those that lost their lives. but it also should be inspirational to new generations , as it shows to new generations, as it shows that despite the odds, despite the cost , you can change the the cost, you can change the course of history. you can do something which is world changing. and i think that that for that reason as well, it's important that we do this. >> and colin kemp, how much money have you raised our target is 70,000. >> we're currently at 42,000. lord ashcroft made a very good donation. a sizeable donation, but we have 600 supporters who who've pledged between 5 and £1000. >> and the comments on the website, which is west africa squadron.org, are incredibly positive towards what we're trying to do . trying to do. >> recently, penny mordaunt , >> recently, penny mordaunt, there has been some complaints about the language in rule britannia that's sung in the last night of the proms. do you

support erasing that from the national psyche? >> look , i, as someone that >> look, i, as someone that campaigned for us to retain the uk theme that was slashed by the bbc, these, these things i think are important to our to our history and, and, and i think that we should be celebrating our, our heritage. that's what these things are about. our, our heritage. that's what these things are about . people these things are about. people don't sing them to be offensive. we very tactfully drop verses out of certain, uh, certain tunes on various occasions . tunes on various occasions. let's be pragmatic about this, but i think the public do want to celebrate our cultural history. >> your royal naval reserve list. are you willing to sign up to fight for your country? >> i have signed up to do this in the past . i >> i have signed up to do this in the past. i have to say, chris, if there if they're calling on me at any point, uh, we are really in trouble. but but look , i in all seriousness, but look, i in all seriousness, we need to be a resilient nation, and that doesn't mean stepping up to pick up a rifle.

what it means is that on anything that might happen to us in the future, we want our communities to be able to respond to that. when i rewrote this nation's resilience strategy, standing up a civil defence be able to deal defence force to be able to deal with the things that we with some of the things that we currently ask armed forces currently ask our armed forces to was part of that to do was part of that suggestion , and we can take suggestion, and we can take pressure off our armed forces by becoming more resilient ourselves. and that is something important that we should do . you important that we should do. you have been in this office before covering, uh, my campaign to build three new ships , assets, build three new ships, assets, civilian assets. but for the government to have call on if they need to, that could take pressure off our fleet , our pressure off our fleet, our navy. so these are the sorts of things we should be looking at doing. >> so are you saying we should be ready for a call up by the government of a civilian force to defend britain? >> no, i don't think that is on the cards , but we already do a the cards, but we already do a huge amount in our communities

to help us as a nation be more resilient . and we need to think resilient. and we need to think about things. you know, if people were going to take out our communications network, for example we respond to example, how would we respond to that? are things that the that? these are things that the cabinet thinks about all cabinet office thinks about all the time. and i would love us to be the most resilient nation on earth. i rewrote our earth. when i rewrote our resilience strategy, was at resilience strategy, that was at the of it. the heart of it. >> just finally, penny >> and just finally, penny mordaunt, gave an mordaunt, last week you gave an impassioned of rishi impassioned defence of rishi sunak the prime minister, your leader . why sunak the prime minister, your leader. why do you need to do that? and why do some of your colleagues your side of the colleagues on your side of the house want remove house want to remove him? >> well, look, that the >> well, look, i think that the labour attack against labour line of attack against the minister is pretty the prime minister is pretty disgraceful , actually. so disgraceful, actually. so i simply told the commons who he is as a person and i think that the list of things that he is involved in, the things that he has done in his life, tell a great story about the great britain that he is and i was very keen to knock that labour line of attack on on the head. it's deeply unpleasant that it's

a tory attack to there's policy disagreements, but there's policy disagreements the policy disagreements all the time. i think that the labour party attacking the man, not the ball , is, is party attacking the man, not the ball, is, is very unpleasant. um, and i think we need to stop that, that sort of behaviour . that, that sort of behaviour. now the attorney general has ordered an inspection into the crown prosecution service's handung crown prosecution service's handling of the nottingham stabbing case. >> i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

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channel britain's news channel . channel britain's news channel. >> welcome back. it's 445. you're watching or listen to martin daubney on gb news now. 5:00 i'll bring you our exclusive interview with penny mordaunt as the former royal navy reservist tells us whether she'd fight for king and country if we went to war. now the trial of an asylum seeker who's charged with manslaughter after four people died while crossing the channel in 2022, has begun today, ibrahim abbas is charged with four counts of manslaughter and one count of piloting the boat , facilitating illegal entry boat, facilitating illegal entry to the uk. well our south east of england reporter ray addison is at canterbury crown court and joins us now. ray, what's the latest on this harrowing . case? latest on this harrowing. case? >> well, the jury has gone home for the day, but in a nutshell, the prosecution opened its case today and explained that, uh, on

the 14th of december, 2022, bar had piloted a non—factory built inflatable from the coast of dunkirk , france, into the dunkirk, france, into the engush dunkirk, france, into the english channel. it was very low quality material. it wasn't safe for the number of passengers that were on board around 43. now, soon after that journey began, it started to take on water. people started to panic and the prosecution case claims that they asked him to turn back. however they say that he refused and people eventually ended up in the water when the base of the boat fell out and they were rescued by a fishing boat. now the prosecutor are claiming that bar had accepted a duty of care to those on board. they relied on him. he was aware that the boat was overcrowded and unsafe, and had undertaken that task, even though there was a clear and obvious and serious risk of death. he's denied all of these charges, but we're

facing now a 4 to 5 week trial. >> okay, ray addison , thank you >> okay, ray addison, thank you for that update from canterbury crown court , of course, will crown court, of course, will follow that case in full and bnng follow that case in full and bring you details over the coming days. now, the attorney general has ordered an inspection into the crown prosecution service's handling of the nottingham stabbing case. grace o'malley kumar barnaby weber and ian coates were killed by valdo calocane last june. the cps accepted his pleas of guilty of mansur slaughter on the grounds of diminished responsible duty, but the families of the three victims reacted angrily to that sentencing. they accused prosecutors of a fait accompli by accepting the manslaughter charge rather than pursuing a murder verdict. well, let's discuss this case now further with the former met police detective chief superintendent kevin hurley. kevin welcome to the show. always a pleasure. the victims couldn't have been clearer. kevin um, ian coates's

son said this man has made a mockery of the system , and he mockery of the system, and he has got away with murder. barnaby's mother , true justice, barnaby's mother, true justice, was not served. nottinghamshire police have blood on their hands. the big question is what will come of this inquiry and what happens next? what >> well, i mean, hopefully they'll they'll take more consideration in the cases of matters like this . matters like this. >> the bottom line on it is it would have been possible for the cps to proceed on two separate charges. one would have been murder , which and the other one murder, which and the other one would have been unmanned slaughter. and if a decision was made later by the judge to accept a plea of diminished responsibility or or if the jury said yes , we're listening to the said yes, we're listening to the pleading from the defence counsel that he was mentally ill, psychopathic, and so on. so we are not going to find him guilty of murder. we'll find him guilty of murder. we'll find him guilty of murder. we'll find him guilty of manslaughter, diminished responsibility. uh what that took away is the

ability of the judge to impose the sentence with a life tariff on it, i.e, never be released because three murders and three attempted murders would undoubtedly have resulted in a whole of life tariff. uh for the for the criminal. um, but now, where we are , and i understand where we are, and i understand the family's angst, he's now going to go somewhere like broadmoor , which is an nhs broadmoor, which is an nhs hospital , albeit secure, whereas hospital, albeit secure, whereas lifestyle will be considerably better than where he to be banged up in solitary confinement for most of his time in long lartin or broadmoor or, uh , uh, similar or wandsworth or uh, uh, similar or wandsworth or somewhere, uh, similar . uh, uh, uh, similar or wandsworth or somewhere, uh, similar. uh, and of course , the thing is, if he'd of course, the thing is, if he'd been found guilty of murder, it would have been within the power of hospital doctors within the prison service to have decided we need to refer him to a secure hospital for treatment. and when that treatment is complete, refer him back to the prison .

refer him back to the prison. because he's on a whole of life. tariff >> now, the potential does exist i >> -- >> and at the moment, if doctors later on decide he's cured or he's responding well to his medicine, it could be in the years to come they could let him out. >> so kevin , the question is, >> so kevin, the question is, does the attorney general have the power to do anything to overturn this case, to strengthen the sentence or not? >> i'm not sure . >> i'm not sure. >> the problem you've got is that the crown accepted the plea of, uh, guilty to manslaughter for diminished responsibility. so it's a bit difficult now for the crown to appeal their own decision, because if the attorney general did do so , he'd attorney general did do so, he'd be doing it, presumably on behalf of the crown. you know, i rex the king. um, so i don't know if there's a i think there's learning to be had here, which is how the crown prosecution makes decisions on really nasty cases like this as

to how much consideration should be given and how much consultation should there should be with the victim's families , be with the victim's families, because i think the reason the families were upset and quite rightly, is i doubt that they were consulted on whether were fully consulted on whether or not to accept that plea . um, or not to accept that plea. um, and of course , if and kev in and of course, if and kev in particular, barnaby's mother said that we trusted in our system foolishly, as it turns out , it was system foolishly, as it turns out, it was premeditated. >> he knew it was wrong, but he did it anyway. this has been a trial by doctors and this allegation. kevin that nottinghamshire constabulary have blood on their hands. if you're just done your job properly, there's a very real chance my beautiful boy would be alive today. this, of course, kevin is referring to the shortfalls of how calocane repeatedly slipped through the net. this guy was on warrant wanted for nine months. what kind of questions you think will be asked of the nottinghamshire

police force on this? >> i mean, you know, if we were to attribute blame on this , i'd to attribute blame on this, i'd be attributing it government be attributing it to government funding health funding for the national health service terms mentally service in terms of mentally disordered inpatient care , disordered inpatient care, because this guy had been three times through six patrick hospitals and been released , hospitals and been released, probably because there's not enough spaces anymore and probably also not well managed in the community due to inadequate health service workers. >> as for the police , um, yeah, >> as for the police, um, yeah, he was on a warrant. um, but then there are probably hundreds of thousands of warrants in existence for the arrest of people in the uk. and depending on the nature of the warrant, depends on what resource is allocated to it . and since this allocated to it. and since this warrant, my understanding was one for a relatively minor offence. it's not going to get police putting, you know, a big team on trying to find it. the reality is people when someone's wanted rather not turning up at court or for a minor offence on fingerprints and i included that

things like burglary or even assaults , um, it will just be assaults, um, it will just be put on the police national computer for until such stage as they come to the notice of police when they're in a stop and search situation , or a road, and search situation, or a road, and search situation, or a road, a road check, they only because of the resources you will only focus on someone who's wanted on repeated warrants and that frankly , is if there's adequate frankly, is if there's adequate numbers of crime analysts to say, hey, this guy's got seven warrants on him, this guy's prolific, we need to find him. but it all comes back to cut pubuc but it all comes back to cut public service. if there aren't the analysts , we don't pick up the analysts, we don't pick up on it. okay >> kevin hurley, we have to leave it there. simply through time. thanks for joining leave it there. simply through time. thanks forjoining us on time. thanks for joining us on the show. a case that asks huge questions, systemic failures across the board . oh, calocane. across the board. oh, calocane. now we've got an exclusive interview with penny mordaunt and the message from the former defence secretary and the leader of the house of commons is your country needs you . but would she country needs you. but would she take that call up and serve king

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>> good afternoon. it's 5 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk today. i've got an exclusive interview with penny mordaunt. find out whether she'd fight for her country if we went to war and what she's had to say about prime minister rishi sunak. and there's reaction to the alarming

report that says the uk's population is expected to increase by more than a staggering 6 million in the next 12 years, where will they live? can britain even cope? and the bbc has once again been accused of being unwelcoming. it follows reports that it told staff not to hire people who are dismissed of diversity, and inclusion. here we go again. of diversity, and inclusion. here we go again . and that's all here we go again. and that's all coming in your next hour. here we go again. and that's all coming in your next hour . thanks coming in your next hour. thanks for joining me on the show. and forjoining me on the show. and as usual, i want to hear from you. please email me your views. gb views at gb news. com lots of things got you going today. gb views at gb news. com lots of things got you going today . the things got you going today. the imf is poking its nose into british tax, saying we can't put up tax because of net zero targets. who on earth do they think they are? let me know your thoughts. also, is it time for a british farmers revolt like we're seeing in france ? vive la

we're seeing in france? vive la revolution! now it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . polly middlehurst. >> martin, thank you, and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that the democratic unionist party in northern ireland has backed a deal with the uk government on post—brexit trade agreements that could potentially see power sharing restored by friday. the deal aims to end the nearly two year stormont boycott , but the full stormont boycott, but the full details of the proposed agreement are expected to be published tomorrow. well, here in london, westminster's northern ireland secretary says the agreement is a welcome and significant step. while sinn fein's leader says she's optimism about the future. the dup leader, sir jeffrey donaldson, said the deal will bnng donaldson, said the deal will bring real change for the country. we will work with all the parties in the executive to deliver real change for northern ireland, change that benefits

everyone in northern ireland. >> as i have said consistently throughout this period, i want an outcome that both unionists and nationalists can support. now a labour mp says the party should fight the next election on a pledge to bring down net migration to under 100,000 each yeah >>a yeah >> a raft of restrictions are due to come into force within weeks after rishi sunak vowed to do what's necessary to bring net migration down. speaking earlier to gb news political editor christopher hope , khalid mahmood christopher hope, khalid mahmood said the plan should be in labour's manifesto . labour's manifesto. >> so more of our own people , we >> so more of our own people, we train, the lesser those people will come in. >> what's your number, though, to ask you? i will certainly be very happy less than very happy with less than less than we need to than 100,000, but we need to work at that and we need to put training and we need the proper resources those places to resources into those places to get people working. get those young people working. the . the party manifesto. >> well, i certainly would like and labour is and i think the labour party is moving that. yes in the

moving towards that. yes in the united states, president biden has decided how the us will respond to a drone strike that killed three us troops on the border with jordan and syria . border with jordan and syria. >> speaking outside the white house today, president biden declined to reveal to any details on the response , but details on the response, but said the us doesn't need a wider war in the middle east. meanwhile, a militia group backed by iran has claimed responsibility for the attack on the military base . mr biden's the military base. mr biden's comments coming after prime minister rishi sunak urged iran to work towards de—escalate , to work towards de—escalate, saying the situation now here in the uk, telecoms giant bt is facing what's been described as a remarkable £1.3 billion class action claim. the collective action claim. the collective action on landline alleged charges alleges that excess and unfair charges were placed on customers for landlines and calls bt argues in response it was legitimate for companies to

seek to maximise their profits and set their prices accordingly. if the class action is successful, customers could each receive to 3 to £400. the trial is expected to last eight weeks. the prime minister has been accused of playing games rather than trying to help resolve the long running train drivers dispute over pay. it comes as passengers face continued travel disruption as aslef union train drivers launched a fresh wave of walkouts. train operators have been urging passengers only to travel if necessary. downing street says it will consider strengthening minimum service levels after train operators opted not to use the new law dunng opted not to use the new law during strikes. shadow health secretary wes streeting says the government isn't doing enough. >> i think it's appalling that despite the untold misery that has been inflicted on passengers , the secretary of state has not pulled his finger out to sit round the table himself. with the railway unions to negotiate an end to this misery. i think

it's a disgrace that under this government we have seen poorer rail services at higher costs and higher fares rip off fares. in fact , and the workforce also in fact, and the workforce also feeling utterly miserable about the future of our railway network. >> wes streeting , now a man in >> wes streeting, now a man in his 30s, armed with a crossbow, has been shot dead by police in south—east london today, the met police said the man was trying to force his way into a building in surrey keys just before 5 am. he was reportedly armed with weapons and was threatening to harm residents inside the building. unarmed officers tried to negotiate with him, but they were threatened. then police marksmen turned up and the man entered a property and was shot . entered a property and was shot. to scotland now where a monkey that's been on the run has been sighted. as efforts continue , sighted. as efforts continue, though, to bring him home. thermal imaging drones are being used in the hunt for the japanese macaque, which found its way out of its enclosure

from the highland wildlife park on sunday. it's not considered dangerous, but the authorities are advising against approaching the animal and encourage any sightings to be reported . that's sightings to be reported. that's the news on gb news. if you want gb news alerts coming to your phone, scan the qr code on your screen . screen. >> thank you polly. now we start with our exclusive interview with our exclusive interview with penny mordaunt, who has been speaking to our political edhoh been speaking to our political editor, christopher hoban. this is what she when chris is what she said when chris asked if, as a navy asked her if, as a royal navy reservist, she'd ready to reservist, she'd be ready to fight if called up for war. >> so look, i have signed up to do this in the past. i have to say, chris, if they're if they're calling on me at any point that we are really in trouble. but but look, i in all seriousness, we need to be a resilient nation. and that doesn't mean stepping up to pick

up a rifle. what it means is that on anything that might happen to us in the future, we want our communities to be able to respond to that. when i rewrote this nation's resilience strategy , standing up a civil strategy, standing up a civil defence force to be able to deal with some of the things that we currently our armed forces currently ask our armed forces to part of that to do was part of that suggestion, and we can take pressure off our armed forces by becoming more resilient ourselves . and that is something ourselves. and that is something important that we should do. you have been in this office before covering my campaign to build three new ships assets, civilian assets. but for the government to have call on if they need to, that could take pressure off our fleet, our navy. so these are the sorts of things we should be looking at doing. well i'm joined now in our studio by our political editor, christopher hope, who got that sizzling exclusive. >> great work. once again, chris. a really interesting point that penny mordaunt

mentioned in that interview was her plans to erect a statue to the west african squadron. can you tell our viewers a bit about who the west african squadron were and why? this might be a touch controversial . touch controversial. >> yeah, well, the debate in this country , we, you know, this country, we, you know, maybe, maybe rightly wrongly , maybe, maybe rightly or wrongly, it's out in a it's been fought out in a political a bit. it's political sphere a bit. it's been the uk and the slave trade. and of course, is . lots of and of course, it is. lots of institutions are paying out money they the money because they feel the concern about knowledge of concern about the knowledge of that and the way they, they , that and the way they, they, they took part in the slave trade, but also there's another part of that history which is the the uk helped to the end of it. the uk helped to bnng the end of it. the uk helped to bring to an end the global slave trade. 1500 men lost their lives . the navy enforced the ban on slaving and there's this idea of a statue being raised in portsmouth . they've raised about portsmouth. they've raised about half the money so far for a statue to record that it's about giving, seeing all of history, not just the part of it which is offensive and is appalling,

frankly, but also the part the end of the of that period in our history as a nation when actually the uk did the right thing and brought it to an end. >> it probably raise a few >> it will probably raise a few eyebrows on the liberal left end of spectrum. often like of the spectrum. they often like to tear statues down. of course, the then of britain the notion then of britain erecting a statue to mark our , erecting a statue to mark our, um, getting rid of slavery will probably upset a few people on that side of the spectrum. therefore it's a bold move from from penny , but the correct one, from penny, but the correct one, i think, because we often, as you say, talk about the bad bits of british history , but the of british history, but the slavery abolition act of 1833, a worldwide gold standard that was a british law and the slave trade act of 1807, another british gold standard, and the west africa squadron, formed just a year later , went out on just a year later, went out on the high seas and ended this repulsive trade, and sailors lost their lives, and the point is that when times change, when it was recognised, how appalling the unconscionable slavery was, the unconscionable slavery was,

the uk took action. >> um, and i think marking that moment to be and other countries carried on saving. but but this country didn't and that's the point. that's the point. it's a it's viewing all of history, not the bit which is, which is a most offensive. >> earlier on we were joined in the studio by khalid mahmood . i the studio by khalid mahmood. i put to him, would you put it to him, would you be offended by this? and he said, no, was actually quite no, he was actually quite moderate. else. was moderate. something else. he was very and moderate very interesting and moderate about was net immigration. you asked them about labour's target and he, he let he let quite a lot slip. >> i kind of pinned him down because i think it's such a big issue.i because i think it's such a big issue. i think for the next election is what level of net migration you happy with? we migration are you happy with? we know the announcement announcements james announcements today by james cleverly, announcements today by james clevory, announcements today by james clev or should bring announcements today by james clevor should bring down announcements today by james clev or should bring down net will or should bring down net numbers. difference numbers. that's the difference between those leaving. those arriving 744,000 last year. arriving was 744,000 last year. cut by 300,000 by stopping cut that by 300,000 by stopping young students, bringing in family members by lifting the threshold slightly, the threshold slightly, the threshold to get get in here threshold to get to get in here by companies, by stopping companies, discounting wages to get someone

into this country, that kind of thing, 300,000 come off thing, 300,000 might come off it. still with it. that's still easy. with 400,000 arriving, what 400,000 people arriving, what number you happy with? number are you happy with? labouh number are you happy with? labour. he'd be labour. and he said he'd be quite for keir starmer to quite keen for keir starmer to fight next election on a fight the next election on a pledge it down to below pledge to get it down to below 100,000, of course, 100,000, that of course, was a figure that david talked figure that david cameron talked about. 2010 never about. the 2010 election never delivered even really got delivered it or even really got near but i think if labour's near it. but i think if labour's high command , he's only a high command, he's only a backbencheh high command, he's only a backbencher, but he's, you know, he's a player. if they listen to that, that might something he's a player. if they listen to that, twould ght something he's a player. if they listen to that, twould discombobulateg he's a player. if they listen to that, twould discombobulate the which would discombobulate the tory if they, if tory party if they, if they, if they that , that pledge, tory party if they, if they, if they than that , that pledge, tory party if they, if they, if they than that,, that pledge, tory party if they, if they, if they than that, ithat pledge, tory party if they, if they, if they than that, it wouldedge, tory party if they, if they, if they than that, it would be a, tory party if they, if they, if they than that, it would be an more than that, it would be an absolute game changer in the red wall. >> the areas that don't >> the areas that that don't quite trust the labour party on things like open borders, on rowing , back on brexit. and i'll rowing, back on brexit. and i'll put it to him well about net put it to him as well about net zero. this obsession with that £28 billion. but that's a figure that's less than one seventh of where we're at at the moment with the conservative party is this pie in the sky? do you reckon they'll go for it? >> well, the figures, the ons figures here and looking at my notes here, um, 315,000 a year

said to arrive here. up said to arrive here. numbers up by six, 6 million between now and are brought forward. by six, 6 million between now and targetsre brought forward. by six, 6 million between now and targets we're jght forward. by six, 6 million between now and targets we're goingyrward. by six, 6 million between now and targets we're going to ard. by six, 6 million between now and targets we're going to hit the targets we're going to hit 70 million, uh, 11 years before they thought they would . so they thought they would. so there's challenge here the there's a challenge here for the next government. whoever it is . next government. whoever it is. i mean, be challenging for i mean, it'd be challenging for labour to that, but it would labour to hit that, but it would show an intention net show an intention to cut net migration, which would alarm the tory tories, of tory party. the tories, of course, say we tried. we course, would say we tried. we couldn't do how earth can couldn't do it. how on earth can you to which labour might you do it? to which labour might say, give the chance. say, well, give us the chance. >> we had >> and actually we had jack brereton, conservative, stoke on trent, proper brexit land trent, pure proper brexit land where kind issues would where these kind of issues would be game changers electorally . be game changers electorally. and it was the labour mp that was much more ambitious on the immigration side. astonishing if it becomes the situation, chris, where the labour party , dare we where the labour party, dare we say could be more trusted on say it could be more trusted on border not trusted yet, border control, not trusted yet, of course they're promising things . things. >> maybe jack brereton, you know , responsible tory mp elected in 2019. stoke on trent, south. i think it is. he probably felt it's hard me to say it. it's hard for me to say it. we're in power. we're not doing

it. it's easier for labour to make a because they're make a promise because they're not problem make a promise because they're not got problem make a promise because they're not got is problem make a promise because they're not got is that)roblem make a promise because they're not got is that ifyblem make a promise because they're not got is that if they make they've got is that if they make a promise and don't deliver on it, they will also be it, then they will also be punished despatch punished at the despatch box next they punished at the despatch box next power. they win power. >> chris, i hope another corking day vintage hope penny day from you. vintage hope penny morden and mahmood a morden and khalid mahmood got a great of always great line out of him. always a pleasure. very pleasure. thank you very much for joining us and you can catch forjoining us and you can catch that full interview penny that full interview with penny mordaunt channel. that full interview with penny mc course, channel. that full interview with penny mccourse, gb channel. that full interview with penny mccourse, gb youtube annel. of course, gb news youtube channel. it's out there. it's brilliant. well done. chris now moving on. commuters across the country rail disruption country face rail disruption once again this week. in fact, this man is going to have a nightmare getting home tonight as the train drivers union as the main train drivers union aslef stage fresh strikes and bands on overtime. the prime minister has called the walkouts disappointing as train operators fail to enforce the strikes minimum service level act, meaning train operators are legally allowed to tell some striking workers to show up for work . it's groundhog day on the work. it's groundhog day on the trains once again, and joining

me now is liam halligan gb news business and economics editor with on the money . liam, thanks with on the money. liam, thanks for joining us. and i mentioned forjoining us. and i mentioned the groundhog day, the numbers, the groundhog day, the numbers, the cost. liam of these train strikes is absolutely eye—watering in 2022. it was £1 billion last year. three quarters of £1,000,000,180 million in one week alone in london. and yet, liam, they still roll on. >> it'sjanuary, still roll on. >> it's january, martin. >> it's january, martin. >> the skies are grey. tax returns are due in tomorrow for the self—employed . and now we've the self—employed. and now we've got the train strikes rolling into their third, third calendar yeah >> quite unbelievable misery for loads of commuters who are just trying to get into work to earn a crust to keep themselves and their families. >> the overtime ban on train drivers work began yesterday

that impacted trains yesterday. today we've got strike action. >> let's have a look at some of the details here. i've got an on the details here. i've got an on the money graphic for you because i know you like my graphics. >> martin. so the train strikes from today, tuesday the of from today, tuesday the 30th of january monday the 5th of january to monday the 5th of february. it is between aslef train drivers. it's a big train drivers union and 14 train operators across england, though there may be two more. adding to that now . aslef, the union that now. aslef, the union claims that some members haven't had a pay rise for five years. >> they don't just represent train drivers but some other staff as well . staff as well. >> ministers, though, say that train drivers are paid an average of £65,000 a year . average of £65,000 a year. pretty chunky wages. there for a 35 hour week. that's four days. so a lot of people would say, blimey , the train drivers are blimey, the train drivers are paid quite well as it is the average wage in this country is about 31 grand, so they're getting twice the average wage for a four day week .

for a four day week. >> and what i would say also is that as well as the cost and inconvenience of this, whereas when nurses go on strike, they're is some sympathy for them. there's sympathy sometimes as well . as well. >> when teachers go on strike, i don't detect much public sympathy for train drivers going on strike and yet the union is hanging in there, digging in its heels. >> if you like. >> if you like. >> the third calendar year, as i said , that these train strikes said, that these train strikes have gone for on now. >> liam, the huge cost of these strikes, um , gives the unions strikes, um, gives the unions leeway. of course , to say, well, leeway. of course, to say, well, it'd be cheaperjust to end it'd be cheaper just to end them. it'd be cheaperjust to pay them. it'd be cheaperjust to pay us and be done with it. and is that why they don't care? these things drag on because it'd cheaper to end them. and it'd be cheaper to end them. and actually looking forward. is this a taste , liam, do you think this a taste, liam, do you think of a labour party government to come? more and more strikes come? just more and more strikes 7 come? just more and more strikes ? aren't saying >> well, labour aren't saying much strikes. much about the strikes. >> uh, a lot of labour backbenchers massively backbenchers will massively support strikes.

backbenchers will massively supand strikes. backbenchers will massively supand i strikes. backbenchers will massively supand i imagine ;. of the >> and i imagine most of the frontbench well, frontbench as well, unequivocally , of course, a lot unequivocally, of course, a lot of labour mps get money from trade . but they're not trade unions. but they're not saying much for now because they don't want to frighten the horses of sort of moderate swing voters , if you like. voters, if you like. >> before a general election. but but there is legislation the train companies could use to impose, uh , a responsibility on impose, uh, a responsibility on striking workers to go to work to maintain a 40% service s but the train operators aren't using that law. >> they have that rights . >> they have that rights. they're not using it. >> uh, minister say they're disappointed about that. maybe we, the operating companies don't want to worsen the atmosphere even more between the unions and themselves . unions and themselves. >> and of course, ministers will be worried that if they cave in to the train drivers now , then to the train drivers now, then other workers , public sector other workers, public sector workers, will all be emboldened if you like to take more strike

action in the run up to an election . also, uh, the bank of election. also, uh, the bank of england's concerned about wage inflation. and if there's a really big, very public pay settlement with the train drivers, then that will encourage higher wage bargaining by workers across other parts of the economy, which will mean it's harder to get inflation down, inflation, of course, is still 4. >> martin, twice the bank of england's target on thursday. >> i'll be standing outside the bank of england as usual. >> my usual spot, um, because the monetary policy committee will be making its latest decision on interest rates, i suspect strongly they'll stay at 5.25, not coming down, not least because inflation is still double the bank of england's target. but i think some of the wording from the bank of england's monetary policy committee will point to rate cuts coming soon, dependent on on pay patterns and trends, and pay on pay patterns and trends, and pay inflation. >> so it really is a key moment

for the economy here. the train drivers are striking. >> it's a pain in lots of people's posterior, if i may say that on family television during the day, um , but ministers will the day, um, but ministers will not want a pay settlement. >> headline number for this strike that is high, and nor will the bank of england. >> and that is feeding into now a really difficult dispute route to resolve . to resolve. >> excellent stuff. liam halligan always as ever, on the money. thank you very much, captain . now moving on. what captain. now moving on. what would you do with an extra £1,500 each month for an entire year? well, you could win that in our great british giveaways . in our great british giveaways. 18 grand in cool haul. cash is up for grabs. and here's how you could make all of that yours. >> there's an incredible £18,000 in cash to be won in the latest great british giveaway . totally great british giveaway. totally tax free cash that you could do whatever you like with that works out to be an extra £1,500 to play with each month for a

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>> welcome back . it's 525. >> welcome back. it's 525. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news later this hour i'll host a tasty debate on whether a statue honounng debate on whether a statue honouring britain's sailors who helped to enforce the abolition of slavery should be built . or of slavery should be built. or is that whitewashing our colonial past? that one should get lively now president biden has decided how the us will respond to a drone strike that killed three american troops in jordan. speaking outside the white house today, he declined to reveal any details on the response, but said that the us does not need a wider war in the middle east. a militia group backed by iran claimed responsibility for the attack on a us military base in jordan. mr biden's comments come after prime minister rishi sunak urged iran to work towards de—escalating the situation. tehran says it wasn't behind the attack and accuses the us of trying to incite and expand the crisis . yes, let's talk about

crisis. yes, let's talk about that and other issues. i'm joined by robert fox, who's the defence editor of the evening standard and a peerless voice on all of this. robert, welcome to the show. so here we go again. those of us of a certain age have seen wars come and go in the middle east. the key question is, is biden , um, question is, is biden, um, having to respond to this latest attack? and if he doesn't do that, will it further embolden iran? >> oh, we can forget about the palace, i'm afraid. martin um, let's get on with this. um i think he has to do something. >> and i think he stated the terms in which he has to do something. >> he has do something which >> he has to do something which is a gesture, is is more than a gesture, but is less than foolhardy and promotes a widening war. >> the game of iran is disruption. now you see me, now you don't. >> they probably didn't give the order to send the attack drone into tower 22, where the three were killed. >> the 34 injured. >> the 34 injured. >> but they're certainly sponsoring payment giving know

how and encouragement to the people who did. >> uh , america wants to show >> uh, america wants to show that it >> uh, america wants to show thatitis >> uh, america wants to show that it is in the lead there, that it is in the lead there, that it is in the lead there, thatitis that it is in the lead there, that it is not leaving the region in a hurry, despite counterclaims. but it is desperate. >> this war doesn't widen to an all out conflict involving iran directly , which could go from directly, which could go from the persian or, uh, arabian gulf right across to the eastern mediterranean . mediterranean. >> now , robert, an astonishing >> now, robert, an astonishing report from the imf today. >> they've been poking their nose into british tax affairs, telling us we can't raise our taxes and cut taxes. sorry, that would affect net zero, but they've also upgraded russia gross domestic product , saying gross domestic product, saying that russia is benefiting from a huge surge of profits during war. war. what is it good for? it seems vladimir putin's coffers are. >> this is so , uh, the look at

>> this is so, uh, the look at the struggling growth figures in, uh, western europe and uk included . included. >> the russian economy has grown by something like over 3. >> uh, last year. >> uh, last year. >> and that is almost entirely due to the very high price and therefore the ransom of russian oil . oil. >> and this is where we get this , this absolutely weird looking glass war where russia is encouraged , urging hamas and the encouraged, urging hamas and the houthis , and oddly, they're houthis, and oddly, they're hitting supplies of russian oil coming out through the gulf and coming out through the gulf and coming out through the gulf and coming out from their ally. and it has to be described as such, pure and simple. >> there ally iran, for whom the outlet through the gulf, which is now associated with the red sea, is absolutely vital. it's very interesting that the houthis have actually been hitting tankers carrying russian hydrocarbon. in other words , hydrocarbon. in other words, petroleum product oil cargoes . petroleum product oil cargoes. >> and isn't that the problem we

are facing? tyrants here and opponents who have ostensibly limitless funds? they simply turn on the taps on their gas and oil. meanwhile, we can barely even get sailors on a single ship . single ship. >> well, this is a really a huge problem because this is the year of great elections. it is a great year of the test of a democracy. i'm not saying it's the decline of the west , far the decline of the west, far from it. but we're here. we pay attention to our electorates for tehran , for moscow , uh, they're tehran, for moscow, uh, they're part of a pantomime joke. electorates. they're important . electorates. they're important. >> they are ramped up. >> they are ramped up. >> and you usually win an election if you're an autocrat in both countries by roughly somewhere north of 95. but they really have this is a common factor . they have contempt for factor. they have contempt for their people. russia, unfortunately , martin, just to unfortunately, martin, just to draw this all together and this is the nato assessment now is engaged on a war policy kc. and it's a war policy.

>> see ten year plan against the west and we're in year two of that plan and of somebody , 3 or that plan and of somebody, 3 or 4 figures have said to me, if ukraine goes, if and they're considering the possibility , we considering the possibility, we are all in trouble, certainly the baltics will be next. >> the german, uh , armed forces >> the german, uh, armed forces and the german government is terrified of this and is talking about the prospect . about the prospect. >> it's a real wake up call. nobody's listening . nobody's listening. >> okay, robert falk's excellent analysis , concise to the point analysis, concise to the point as ever, defence editor of the evening standard. excellent. thank you very much for joining us on gb news. now, still lots more to come between now and 6:00. in a few minutes, we'll discuss whether a statue paying tribute to sailors who enforce the abolition of slavery should be built in portsmouth . that one be built in portsmouth. that one is going to get very, very lively. but first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . the headlines this

middlehurst. the headlines this houh middlehurst. the headlines this hour, a man in his 30s, armed with a crossbow has been shot dead by police in south—east london. >> let's show you these exclusive pictures showing an unarmed officers arriving at the scene in the early hours of this morning as they attempted to deal with the situation. they were soon joined by armed officers , who then shot and officers, who then shot and killed the man who we believe was in his 30s. the metropolitan police said he'd been trying to force his way a building in force his way into a building in surrey quays. he was reportedly armed with weapons and threatening to harm residents inside the address . well, also inside the address. well, also inside the address. well, also in the news today, the president of sinn fein says the next few days will be crucial after the dup ended its two year boycott in northern ireland after more than 700 days protesting against post—brexit trade arrangements . post—brexit trade arrangements. the party says they'll now back a deal to restore power sharing if new legislation is passed in parliament. mary lou mcdonald

saying it's time for the country to come together . and a labour to come together. and a labour mp says the party should fight the next election on a pledge to bnng the next election on a pledge to bring down net migration to under 100,000 a year. speaking earlier to gb news is khalid mahmood, who's the labour mp for birmingham, said the plan should be in labour's manifesto. labour has previously said it would cut the number to around 200,000. the prime minister, rishi sunak, has been under pressure from tory mps since net migration reached a record . high of reached a record. high of 745,000 in 2022, and president biden has decided how the us will respond to a drone strike that killed three of its troops in jordan. speaking outside the white house today, he declined to reveal any details on what that response may look like. but the us said it didn't need a wider war in the middle east. a militia group backed by iran has claimed responsibility for the attack, which happened on a military base in jordan on the

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course i want to talk about things farming, your things like your farming, your train these minimum train strikes, these minimum service levels. why these service levels. why are these train companies just not implementing it? what is the point in having these laws if you're just allowing companies to go , hey, you know what, don't to go, hey, you know what, don't worry about it. and course, worry about it. and of course, spending do we still spending a penny. do we still need those coppers, your ones and twos? oh, not a great and your twos? oh, not a great menu that topic of minimum menu on that topic of minimum service levels , a lot of people service levels, a lot of people have been saying we've got the laws, we just haven't got the politicians with the guts to enforce laws . enforce the laws. >> michelle, isn't that the problem? >> well, i can tell you, martin, you that you could almost take that sentence it to many topics. >> now in this country, we don't have leaders that have got the backbone. >> i mean, if i was rishi sunak, i've got to be honest. >> i'd say, you know what? what have i got to lose? everyone sitting there pulling each other every five seconds, saying that we're election we're about to lose the election anyway. you know what? anyway. so you know what? >> why not go or go home? >> why not go hard or go home? >> why not go hard or go home? >> what we say we go >> that's what we say when we go out about in hull. and out and about in hull. and i think you could apply that to

rishi ship. go rishi sunak's premier ship. go hard home. hard or go home. >> sunak what have you got to lose? >> alex dean's on my panel tonight. quite a die hard tonight. he's quite a die hard tory, isn't he? i like him tory, isn't he? and i like him because always he's like tory, isn't he? and i like him bec last always he's like tory, isn't he? and i like him bec last man always he's like tory, isn't he? and i like him bec last man standing.e's like the last man standing. he's passionate defending passionate about defending the tories. really interested tories. so i'm really interested to he has to on to see what he has to say on some this stuff. some of this stuff. >> stuff. it promises to >> great stuff. it promises to be a corker of a show there. someone a backbone michelle someone with a backbone michelle dewberry co 6 or 7. right dewberry dewbs& co 6 or 7. right after this. magnificent. thank you . now, early today you very much. now, early today we brought you our exclusive interview with the leader of the house portsmouth house of commons and portsmouth nonh house of commons and portsmouth north mp, penny mordaunt. of course, she was asked about why she's backing a bid to build a statue that would honour the people who served in the west africa squadron , a naval unit africa squadron, a naval unit which enforced the abolition of slavery. where she she insisted that it's really important that we tell the whole story about our history . we tell the whole story about our history. but should we really make a memorial of the squadron, or do you need to simply look at the bigger picture here? well, i can now

speak with historian and broadcaster rafe heydel—mankoo and actor and writer femi nylander. welcome to the show, gents. let's start with you, rafe. um, do you think it's a goodidea rafe. um, do you think it's a good idea to erect a statue to commemorate britain's role in ending slavery ? ending slavery? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i mean, i personally think that the west africa squadron one deserves a hallowed place in the, you know, in the annals of british history, right alongside nelson and the battle of trafalgar and drake and the spanish armada. >> it's that significant. >> it's that significant. >> and it's shameful, actually , >> and it's shameful, actually, that we don't have one or several this nation at the several in this nation at the moment. it's actually perhaps more notable than those battles because this was perhaps the first history that a first time in history that a nafion first time in history that a nation spent vast resources doing something that was not in its own national interest, but was simply the right and the moral thing to do. not for britain's good, but for the global good. because, you know, this west africa squadron was essentially the world's first naval police force enforcing an

end to the atlantic slave trade by stopping slave ships belonging to other nations . belonging to other nations. because whilst, you know, in britain, we abolish the slave trade in 1807, but it carried on in, you know, france, spain , in, you know, france, spain, portugal, holland, the us all carried on with the slave trade . carried on with the slave trade. also in africa, the kingdoms of africa were opposed to the abolition of the trade abolition of the slave trade because they were making a lucrative trade from enslaving other . and so britain other africans. and so britain went of this and went against all of this and expended resources on the expended vast resources on the most expensive example in history of moral righteousness. 2% of british gdp was spent in forcing an end to the abolition of the slave trade. the same amount we spent today on our entire defence budget. >> and it was also the most deadly of the royal navy squadrons to be in with one, with one sailor dying for every nine slaves that were liberated . nine slaves that were liberated. >> so it's so important that we remember this. and the squadron captured the public imagination in britain and through press stories, it mobilised the public

to understand the horrors of the slave trade . so on every level, slave trade. so on every level, this is something we should all be celebrating. and it's a great shame that we don't know more about it in this country. >> femi nylander, is there something be something that you'll be celebrating ? celebrating? >> well, i think again , what >> well, i think again, what we've just heard is, is key. >> um, the fact that that people will use, i mean , we can will use, i mean, we can celebrate the end of slavery and celebrate the end of slavery and celebrate the end of slavery is great. but if celebrating the end slavery means positing end of slavery means positing the uk as this great moral force for stopping doing something which was one of the worst things in human history, and we need to distinguish between the end slavery the end of end of slavery and the end of the slave trade. >> when the slave trade was ended. that doesn't mean britain wasn't from wasn't still profiting from slavery. people were still enslaved britain enslaved under britain in the canbbean enslaved under britain in the caribbean the caribbean after the end of the slave means is slave trade. all it means is that trade of humans along that the trade of humans along the high seas then became illegal, continued to illegal, so britain continued to own and benefit slaves. own and benefit from slaves. >> after the end of the so—called slave trade. but the point is, if a man was to go around raping and murdering and

doing all of the worst crimes in human history, all which were human history, all of which were part to the slave part and parcel to the slave trade um , for trade which britain led, um, for many, many years. and then was to finish. and then years later , to finish. and then years later, having never repented for any of that, having, um, never kind of given any retribution to any of the victims of any of that was to construct a monument to themselves. it would be a little bit weird. um, britain should focus on retrofitting , um, for focus on retrofitting, um, for its past crimes as, um, and coming to terms with the fact that it coming to terms with the fact thatitis coming to terms with the fact that it is only just less than ten years ago. >> finished paying off the debts that it incurred by deciding to pay that it incurred by deciding to pay off reparations to the slave owners when it abolished slavery and not to the descendants of slaves itself. >> britain is not in a position yet where it can celebrate and say, look at us, we're a great moral force for ending the slave trade. one the trade. britain led one of the most barbaric and cruel, um, things to have ever happened on this earth for hundreds of

years, and britain hasn't come to terms with that. so britain should be monuments up should be putting monuments up to the slaves who rebelled. britain should be putting monuments up to the descendants of those slaves, and britain should be paying them reparations. >> britain shouldn't be celebrating itself in that sense. okay? >> okay, rafe, over to you . >> okay, rafe, over to you. >> okay, rafe, over to you. >> well, quite simply, you know, every culture in the world has had slave slavery is thousands of years old. >> africa had slavery, thousands of years before the british arrived there. you know, the islamic slave trade to africa was carrying on for centuries after, before the british arrived and carries on, uh, centuries afterwards, too. i mean, the fact is that , you mean, the fact is that, you know, today the international labour organisation says that seven in every 1000 slaves people in africa is a slave, 10 million people. pakistan global centre of slavery, britain is unique because never before had a nation tried to lead the whole world to abolish slavery . there world to abolish slavery. there is no example of this in human

history . you know, at the history. you know, at the congress of vienna, after the end of the napoleonic wars, britain ensured that a declaration against slavery was made in those peace treaties, forcing the french and the spanish and others to sign up to the abolition of slavery against against their own personal desires. it's a unique example in history, where the british empire spent the second half of its existence atoning for the sins of slavery in the first half. because of that evangelical movement evangelical christian movement that swept through through victorian britain, i don't think femi understands how unique that was in human history and the people of sierra leone would also disagree with femi nylander . you know, the capital of sierra leone is called freetown. that's the west africa that's where the west africa squadron took liberated slaves , squadron took liberated slaves, and freetown was set up by the british as a place for them to start a life . and when those start a new life. and when those slaves arrived in freetown, they would famous would walk through the famous freedom arch and go to freedom arch and then go to hospital to get treated and get food. now the african government of sierra leone has declared the freedom arch to be a national

memorial, and it applied to get unesco heritage status for that arch, saying it was a symbol of freedom akin to the statue of liberty in america and if they think that's a good way to pay tribute to the west africa squadron, i don't see why we can't do the same in portsmouth, which of which is the birthplace of it. femi >> um, yes . so femi >> um, yes. so again, i do understand my history . understand my history. >> i know my history, and i know that the first country in the western hemisphere to get rid of slavery wasn't even britain. it was haiti. the way haiti was haiti. and the way haiti did, to some wave did, it wasn't due to some wave of remorse from, this case, did, it wasn't due to some wave ofwas orse from, this case, did, it wasn't due to some wave ofwas french.m, this case, did, it wasn't due to some wave ofwas french. french 1is case, did, it wasn't due to some wave ofwas french. french slavers, did, it wasn't due to some wave ofwas french. french slavers . it was french. french slavers. it through violent it was through a violent revolution that they had to do to their rights. to get back their rights. >> britain wasn't this >> so britain wasn't this leading moral force that got rid of the first time of slavery for the first time eveh of slavery for the first time ever, like slavers, like black people, the descendants of africans who had been enslaved and the africans themselves had been enslaved, went and took back rights. back their rights. >> britain pressured. >> and britain was pressured. the . yes, the abolition movement. yes, there people in britain there were people in britain like william wilberforce , but like william wilberforce, but william wilberforce himself, what was he before he turned

into the song? amazing grace was written by slave trader. yes. written by a slave trader. yes. you talk about redemption . you can talk about redemption. you can talk about redemption. you talk about the idea of, you can talk about the idea of, um , turning your back on crimes um, turning your back on crimes you've done. >> you to understand >> but you need to understand that slavery was abolished in large of pressure large part because of pressure from slaves themselves. from the slaves themselves. >> abolished large >> it was abolished in large part because of people with agency themselves who had been wronged , pushing back against wronged, pushing back against the people who were wronging them. and again, to give the analogy me to go out and analogy for me to go out and rape and pillage and murder and then around and pat myself then turn around and pat myself on back for stopping and on the back for stopping it and for ending it, i don't need to get into the intricacies of history. >> can get into the >> i can get into the intricacies history. intricacies of history. >> really got time. >> we haven't really got time. the is, you go out the reality is, if you go out and you do something you and you do something wrong, you don't to yourself the don't get to pat yourself on the back, you've back, especially when you've paid off slave owners back, especially when you've paiconly slave owners back, especially when you've paiconly stoppede owners back, especially when you've paiconly stopped doingrs in you only stopped doing that in 2015 and you never paid off. the slaves. >> f- f— slaves. >> still hasn't actually >> britain still hasn't actually done anything to retribution for the historical crimes of the slave trade. >> okay, gentlemen , we're going >> okay, gentlemen, we're going to have gentlemen, we're going

to have gentlemen, we're going to have gentlemen, we're going to have to leave it there. we could go on all evening on this femi nylander and rafe heydel—mankoo. thank you for joining us. a civilised and firm but fair debate on a contentious topic . the decision to erect a topic. the decision to erect a statue to commemorate britain's abolition of slavery in portsmouth by penny mordaunt on an exclusive from gb news today, now company owned by elon musk, has implanted a microchip into the brain of a human for the first time. is this a brilliant new innovation or something very scary and sinister? what could possibly go wrong? my martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

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human for the very first time, musk says the patient is recovering . well. well, joining recovering. well. well, joining me now to discuss this is the futurist, the barrister and the broadcaster, andrew eborn, who i can reveal wasn't the patient to have the microchip put into his brain . but, andrew, um, this is brain. but, andrew, um, this is an astonishing development and something i know that will excite you and our viewers. let's start by looking at at the positive side of this, this firm , neuralink, um, owned by elon musk , is claiming it can unlock , musk, is claiming it can unlock, um, locked, um, minds or unlock the paralysed , you know, the paralysed, you know, absolutely . absolutely. >> so it is science fiction has become science fact and as you rightly say , martin, it's rightly say, martin, it's something i've been predicting for a very long time. >> and in fact, there's a few firms in this space and very recently there was glorious recently there was a glorious report somebody who'd been report of somebody who'd been paralysed for years and years and years, and they've been shut

off this isolated world. off in this isolated world. >> and as a result of this technology, they were able to speak for the first time because the basically the information transfer occurred into , um, transfer occurred into, um, words taken directly from their brain in addition to that, they can also do facial expressions. >> so a particular patient, they managed to get a avatar taken from their wedding . and they from their wedding. and they could see that on a screen . so could see that on a screen. so you could see all those glorious emotions . you could see all those glorious emotions. this is the stuff of the future. and as elon, i'm a musketeer, as you know, real fan of elon others in this of elon and others in this space. and we sort of turned around and say , what's going to around and say, what's going to happenis around and say, what's going to happen is if we had stephen happen is that if we had stephen hawking, for example, had this as you could as a brain implant, you could have telepathy who be able to communicate really, really communicate in a really, really effective this is the effective way. and this is the stuff in the future one stage stuff in the future is one stage further, wearables predicting your move. it is in your every move. it is in harnessing people. it's basically starting with those who cannot speak and that sort of side, giving them a voice at who cannot speak and that sort of sirlast.ving them a voice at long last. >> it is a tremendous seismic

moment medical history. moment in medical history. >> now, andrew, what i first heard this story, i thought about michael schumacher . you about michael schumacher. you know, michael schumacher, who of course, has been in a vegetative state now for years. and the incredible prospect of unlocking schumacher of getting shoey, if you like, ostensibly to be able to communicate, communicate again would be simply astonishing . but there are astonishing. but there are downsides, too. people have grave reservations about putting microchips in people's brains , microchips in people's brains, and it being an unfiltered , um, and it being an unfiltered, um, kind of portal into people's minds. do we really want to be going down that route ? well, going down that route? well, it's really interesting, isn't it, because it's probably the most effective lie detector . it, because it's probably the most effective lie detector. in history because it's telepathy . history because it's telepathy. basically, you're going directly into the brain. um, people say that if you can, you can tell when people are lying. >> you can definitely tell >> well, you can definitely tell when lying. you get when they're lying. if you get into their brain. >> looking a >> but i think looking at a positive and is that sort positive side and is that sort of side, seismic

of side, we have seismic advances medicine . advances in medicine. >> we're going be able to >> we're going to be able to cure diseases. and cure all sorts of diseases. and starting classic starting just with those classic examples. michael, i know examples. and michael, i know very i did lot of very well i did a lot of business in formula one for many, many years, you many, many years, as you probably happens many, many years, as you prtragic. happens is tragic. >> what's happened to him locked in this world. >> could release >> if we could release him, how glorious that be? so this glorious would that be? so this is a moment celebrate in is a moment to celebrate in history from medicine point of view. it's a seismic change and it's only to get better . it's only going to get better. >> okay, andrew eborn a positive note to end on a story which could be dystopian if you're a glass half empty kind of guy. i know you're not superb, thank you very much. it's been a fantastic show today about penny morden, a huge debate on immigration. khalife mahmoud let slip 100,000 is labour's target low? think about. i'll be back tomorrow , three till 6 pm. tomorrow, three till 6 pm. coming up after this is michelle dewberry with dewbs& co. she'll be talking about those immigration figures . and also, immigration figures. and also, is it time for a revolution in farming ? you know what i think? farming? you know what i think? let's see what she thinks after

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mainly international migration. do we need to slow this number down? if so, you tell me how do we do it? and train strikes again. are you backing them also? what on earth is the point of minimum service levels ? if of minimum service levels? if the companies involved simply are just not implementing them and let's talk farming, shall we? do you think we need to do more to support our british farmers? for example, would you be willing to pay more for money british produce in our supermarket gates and elon musk ? supermarket gates and elon musk? we know who he is. by now. his company, neuralink, has implanted its first ever brain chip into a human being. what do you make to this? is it a fantastic advancement in human possibility, or is it us simply playing god and we need to stop? and lastly , do we need our and lastly, do we need our coppers? or is it time to phase them out? not the policing variety. those in our pockets, our one and two peas. a penny for your thoughts on all of that

. yes, indeed. we're going