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want to starve? paris really want to starve? paris out, as it's only got three days supply of food and joe biden says he has decided what is response to iran is going to be following that drone attack that killed three us servicemen . he killed three us servicemen. he hasn't told us what it is, but i wonder what it would be a proportionate response. we'll be joined by a former british ambassador to iran. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . with polly middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you and good evening to you. well, let's start this bulletin with some breaking news that we've received the half hour. received in the last half hour. lucy letby has had her bid to challenge her conviction rejected by the court of appeal . rejected by the court of appeal. the 34 year old serial child killer was sentenced to 14 whole life orders after she was convicted of the murders of seven babies and the attempted murders of six others. the nurse
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lodged an application for mission to permission to appeal against all of her convictions , against all of her convictions, but she has had that rejected and a judge has refused her application. after considering all the documents. well the other main news today on gb news, the democratic unionist party in northern ireland has backed a deal with the uk government on post—brexit trade agreements, which could potentially see power sharing restored by friday. the deal aims to end the nearly two year stormont boycott . full details stormont boycott. full details are expected to be published tomorrow. here the northern ireland secretary says the agreement is welcome and a significant step. sinn fein's leader said she's optimistic about the future . as you've been about the future. as you've been hearing, president biden has decided how the us will respond to a drone strike that killed three of its troops in jordan . three of its troops in jordan. speaking outside the white house today , he declined to reveal today, he declined to reveal what that would look like, but did say the us didn't need a
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wider middle east war. a militia group backed by iran claimed responsibility for the attack on the us military base on the jordanian and syrian border. the uk's total population is set to hit 70 million, and it's due to immigration that's a decade sooner than expected as well. new ons figures project that immigration is due to add an extra 6.1 million people to the uk population by 2036, the ons saying it shows the likelihood of higher levels of international migration over the long terme are apparent, and they are greater than in previous estimates . it they are greater than in previous estimates. it comes as the government says new visa changes will make a tangible difference to migration figures . difference to migration figures. meanwhile, a labour mp said today the party should fight the next election on a pledge to bnng next election on a pledge to bring down net migration . he bring down net migration. he said to under 100,000 a year, a
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raft of restrictions are due to come into force within weeks after rishi sunak vowed to do what he called what is necessary to bring the figures down. well, speaking earlier to gb news is political editor christopher hope. khalid mahmood said the plan should be in labour's manifesto of our own people. >> we train the lesser. those people will come in. what's your number, though, to ask you? i will certainly be very happy with less than less than 100,000, but we need to work at that and we need to put training . need to proper resources . we need to proper resources into those places to get those young people working. >> manifesto. >> the party manifesto. >> the party manifesto. >> certainly would like >> well, i certainly would like and party is and i think the labour party is moving that. yes that's moving towards that. yes that's the on gb news background the news on gb news background to all those stories on our website, gb news. >> com if you want a free news alerts on your phone or laptop, scan the qr code on your screen . scan the qr code on your screen. right now. you're watching right now. if you're watching tv, this is britain's news channel.
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>> good evening . i have been >> good evening. i have been saying for some years not many have listened. obviously, that our rapidly exploding population is the biggest single political and social issue this country faces. it's pretty obvious, isn't it? when more people come into the country every year than we even build houses. there's going to be a problem when we don't build more roads, but the population rises. we're going to have a problem when there are nearly 8 million people waiting for appointments with the national health service to have procedures. again, an exploding population . we haven't got the population. we haven't got the gp's and the hospitals to catch up.and gp's and the hospitals to catch up. and when tony blair came to power, the british population was 58 million people. it is now . 68 million people and 85% of that rise is directly down to immigration. so i've been banging this drum for years and years. but today the office of national statistics have put out
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some predictions, some numbers that i think might just wake everybody up . they tell us that everybody up. they tell us that the population will hit 70 million in the middle of 2026. that's against the previous estimate. just a few years ago that we wouldn't reach that number until 2035. but they also say that between now and 2036, the british population will increase by another . 6.6 million increase by another. 6.6 million people and that 6.1 million of thatis people and that 6.1 million of that is directly down to immigration. now, laughably , the immigration. now, laughably, the home office this afternoon have put out a statement saying we're about to see a dramatic and drastic cut in net migration into britain. but hey, these are the people that have overseen this just totally extraordinary growth. but there's another figure in these statistics that really jumps out at me. and i bet no other news channel, even talks about it. it's this i
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accept that it's a prediction, but remember, all of the previous predictions by the office of national statistics have proved to be underestimate rates. they say that between 2021 and 2036, they . estimate . 2021 and 2036, they. estimate. 13.7 million people will move to the uk. long terme and many of those that leave are people from established british families who've been here for generations. perhaps in some cases centuries, that are going to off retire or work or live in other parts of the world. it's the issue that no one wants to talk about, but it means an absolute astounding cultural change in our country. many millions of people who've already come and millions more that will come with whom we have historically and culturally , historically and culturally, literally nothing in common. and i believe the implications of that for our society are very,
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very serious . that for our society are very, very serious. i think many in parliament and in government and in mainstream media know it. parliament and in government and in mainstream media know it . and in mainstream media know it. and yet nobody actually dares to admit it. so let me ask you, do you agree? is this the biggest issue that we face? i'd love to get your thoughts farage at gb news dot com. now i'm joined by paul morland, author and demographer paul wall. that figure i know their estimates , figure i know their estimates, but i made the point before. they've always been underestimates in the past that 13.7 million people in the space of 15 years will settle long time in the uk comes. i mean, some, of course, will come with perfect english, some will come with shared histories, but many won't. it's huge , isn't it? won't. it's huge, isn't it? well, don't be surprised. >> i mean, the last data was that we were getting about a million in a year, and about half a million out, and it's not all that different from what we've seen. so it's we've already seen. so it's not an astonishing prediction to say business usual roughly may business as usual roughly may come down a may go up
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come down a bit, may go up a bit, but that's essentially what's happening. and the question is why has it question really is why has it happened? it happening? happened? why is it happening? and there are two and i think there are two drivers. essentially, it's true that not controlling our that we're not controlling our borders . it's true we're borders. it's true that we're struggling with that. but there's story . and the there's a bigger story. and the bigger is that we have bigger story is that we have always , for hundreds of years, always, for hundreds of years, expected . and what i would call expected. and what i would call organic or natural population growth. but there are more births every year than deaths, and grows and we and the population grows and we have a population pyramid which means there are plenty of workers to every retiree that's changed. we've now had 50 years of replacement fertility of sub replacement fertility rate. that means bit less than two per woman. it's now diving . two per woman. it's now diving. >> so the sort of mid 60s end of the post—war baby boom. >> yes the early 70s we went sub two roughly. and what that means is too few people are coming through to the workforce and government is always under pressure from business to get more workers in you. and i remember when unemployment was the when we had
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the great problem, when we had floods of young people entering the reason that's the workforce. the reason that's not case now, despite our not the case now, despite our sluggish growth, is we sluggish growth, is that we simply have more people leaving sluggish growth, is that we sim workforce nore people leaving sluggish growth, is that we sim workforce than)eople leaving sluggish growth, is that we sim workforce than enters leaving sluggish growth, is that we sim workforce than enter it. aving sluggish growth, is that we sim workforce than enter it. we1g the workforce than enter it. we have a huge requirement for people in the care sector and many other sectors. we haven't produced the people, and if we don't produce the people ourselves, those pressures us to ship them in from elsewhere will just grow endlessly . just grow endlessly. >> i understand that, and of course, i also understand that the big corporates labour the big corporates want labour to cheap as possible. yes to be as cheap as possible. yes and minimum wage and that means minimum wage becomes maximum wage in becomes the maximum wage in many, many industries. and, you know, been going for know, that's been going on for a long, long time. but paul mallen, there are 5.3 million people of working age not working, not working , ever working, not working, ever increasing numbers being put on disability benefits . we also disability benefits. we also have a skills problem . i mean, have a skills problem. i mean, areas like engineering, i know people that have got engineering factories. they literally have to import from abroad because there are lots of young kids with social sciences degrees, but not so there are things we can do ourselves, aren't there?
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>> huge numbers >> well, there are huge numbers of we can do ourselves of things we can do ourselves which don't just include changing rate, which which don't just include changingyears rate, which which don't just include changingyears to rate, which which don't just include changingyears to work, which which don't just include changingyears to work through. takes 20 years to work through. one of them is indeed trying to get people into the get more people into the workforce. say workforce. although i would say if historically, our if you look historically, our participating population is quite high. back to the 50s and 60s, a lot of women didn't work 70s, 80s. we had unemployed. so i'd love to see more people working . but actually, if you working. but actually, if you look at the share of the population that's the population that's working in the relative it's quite relative age group, it's quite high can get it that high whether we can get it that much higher. sure. okay much higher. i'm not sure. okay we certainly reallocate we can certainly reallocate people sectors that people out of sectors that you and i think are a bit of a and i might think are a bit of a waste. and interesting discussion. i mean, have discussion. i mean, we have a huge churning huge university sector churning out numbers of degrees of out huge numbers of degrees of probably relatively little value and hugely require reliant on immigration to fuel their numbers of students. so that's an issue. and i think that's very important. but if you don't change the birth rate and we don't get more workers, i get yes, wages will go up. and that's very good for many people, but we will have labour
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shortages in sectors where the state is expected to fulfil a promise. so we aren't prepared to have elderly people sitting by themselves uncared for or operations not happening because people can't afford , because the people can't afford, because the labour price has gone up and that's the pressure to bring workers in from abroad. >> exactly the point about births i get completely, but as you say, it's going to take 20 years for to change years for that to change anything. things anything. there are things we can paul anything. there are things we can paul, if we go on can do, but paul, if we go on like this with a million in and a half a million out, what kind of it going to be? of country is it going to be? well, going to be a very well, it's going to be a very different country and not necessarily that would welcome. >> em- gm— e are already a very >> i think we are already a very multi—ethnic country, and there's limit how there's a limit to how fragmented country be fragmented a country can be ethnically and still function. so the other thing we've so i think the other thing we've got to do is focus the immigration on areas we really need and actually need it. and if you actually look of people look at the numbers of people coming in, some are indeed coming in, some are indeed coming in, some are indeed coming in to fulfil those really important that we don't important roles that we don't have but have enough people to do. but there lot of dependents there are a lot of dependents coming lot students coming in, a lot of students coming in, a lot of students coming in, a lot of students coming in who never go. so i
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think we have a laser think we should have a laser focus on what immigration focus less on what immigration we sure ethnically is we really sure the ethnically is the issue. >> i think it's more, you >> i, i think it's more, you know, i don't think what colour people makes difference people are makes much difference because all get on and because we can all get on and five year old kids look at each other don't even see those other and don't even see those differences. i think i think when it comes to certain religious differences and cultural even cultural differences and even linguistic differences, then the problem enormous. linguistic differences, then the problthink enormous. linguistic differences, then the problthink for enormous. linguistic differences, then the problthink for a enormous. linguistic differences, then the problthink for a countryus. linguistic differences, then the problthink for a country to >> i think for a country to work, we do to have a work, we do need to have a certain amount culturally in common. when are common. yes. and when we are a fragmented group of people, when we're people very we're people coming from very different recently , different places, very recently, very large numbers not assimilate and with no real requirement to assimilate, then we will be a fragmented society and we won't function well. yeah. >> well, i think much of london is like that already, and london is like that already, and london is the future. neighbours don't even other's names. even know each other's names. >> that's the way the >> and that's the way the country, the country, as a whole will horrifying do will go. horrifying and i do think thing i would like to think one thing i would like to stress is that we've never had a government has talked government that has talked about the rate. in the birth rate. macron in france, he's not an extreme list. he's a centrist. only the
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other week he was saying, we need to this out. only need to sort this out. only a very few people the fringe of very few people on the fringe of british politics are daring to speak about this issue. >> paul mallen, you've dared to speak about it on gb news, and we for coming in. we thank you for coming in. thank having me. and it thank you for having me. and it makes sense to me. one of the areas, course, people areas, of course, that people areas, of course, that people are about lot is are talking about a lot is housing. and isn't that housing. and it isn't just that there quarter million there are one a quarter million people on the social housing list. sense list. it's the sense of desperation for many simply desperation for many who simply can't get the housing ladder can't get on the housing ladder because demand exceeds supply. in most extraordinary in just the most extraordinary way. in fact, over the course of the last few years, you know, the last few years, you know, the centre for policy studies estimates we have a deficit of 1.34 million homes. now, if these figures are true, it would mean that we're going to need to build over the next 15 years for 400,000 houses every single yeah 400,000 houses every single year. is it possible, can it be done? well, i'm going to ask chris carr, the co—owner of car and car builders in grimsby, nonh and car builders in grimsby, north lincolnshire. but who's
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also president of the federation of master builders at the moment. chris, and thank you for joining us. at the moment. i mean, we're lucky to build 200,000 houses a year, aren't we? yeah >> evening, nigel. yeah, we're struggling this year. i think we've struggled up to 150,000. wow. the ambition of 300,000 a yearis wow. the ambition of 300,000 a year is going to be extremely difficult to hit . uh, year is going to be extremely difficult to hit. uh, and 400,000, i think is totally unrealistic at the moment. >> and yet , as the population >> and yet, as the population continues to explode and more and more people have to live with mum and dad or grandparents or or sharing rooms or, or even, you know, generation rent living like students until they're in their mid—forties. um the situation just gets worse and worse, doesn't it? it does. >> and we need to look at what we actually are building. you know, we build a lot of three and four bedroom detached houses, but we're not building a lot bungalows people can lot of bungalows so people can actually out for three actually downsize out for three and four detached go to and four bed detached and go to
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and four bed detached and go to a bungalow, releasing more of those of properties. we're those type of properties. we're not building any or very few single properties, single bedroom properties, which nowadays is, you know, a young couple, a professional couple. that's looking for. couple, a professional couple. thatthere looking for. couple, a professional couple. thatthere isn't looking for. couple, a professional couple. thatthere isn't the looking for. couple, a professional couple. thatthere isn't the kinding for. couple, a professional couple. thatthere isn't the kind of for. couple, a professional couple. thatthere isn't the kind of the and there isn't the kind of the builders aren't building that type. it seems to be predominantly threes fours predominantly threes and fours with the sme builders, the smaller builders, you have got a better chance because we have to differentiate between differentiate ourselves between the builders. the volume house builders. we can't know, can't compete with, you know, persimmons and so we persimmons and barrett. so we have something different have to have something different which are bungalows and smaller units. >> @ there's obviously >> i mean, there's obviously political difficulty with building in farmland, countryside died with, you know, a small village has another 50 houses, but it doesn't have another gp traffic. school places . all of these issues. places. all of these issues. isn't the answer we need in our cities to build up . i think isn't the answer we need in our cities to build up. i think in your cities. >> yeah. i mean, i live in a, i live in grimsby, which is obviously a small town, um, quite a bit of deprivation and we can't get anybody to live in the centres. so we have to the town centres. so we have to make sure that, you know,
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there's one policy fits all. there's not one policy fits all. we've be more we've just got to be more sustainable. the way we build in the areas build, we the areas we build, how we build, with the build, engaging more with the community, something community, which is something a lot have lost. the lot of developers have lost. the art of doing nowadays. yeah um, but i think, you know, building in one thing, in city centres is one thing, but lives in but not everybody lives in a city. of our population city. most of our population don't. to at some don't. we've got to look at some rural housing. we've got look rural housing. we've got to look at back to, you know, our rural housing, affordable was housing, affordable housing was always farmhouses or tied cottages. need go to cottages. do we need to go to encourage now, you know, landowners to start building, encourage now, you know, lancknow, s to start building, encourage now, you know, lancknow, rentalart building, encourage now, you know, lancknow, rental properties], you know, rental properties on their land. this is what their own land. this is what happened for generations and generations. >> mhm. that's very >> mhm. no, that's a very interesting thought. and chris, you there are you know, i know there are difficulties with planning. i know were problems know there were huge problems with environmental planning in particular. um, but presumably and i speak to you as national president of the federation of master builders , presumably master builders, presumably british building companies are in for a boom over the next decade and more . decade and more. >> i'm not so sure. i'm really do struggle. i mean, in 2025, we've got to build, um , a new
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we've got to build, um, a new type of home future home standards, which is going to make the whole way of building a more expensive and more difficult . uh, i don't think difficult. uh, i don't think we're going to have this boom that everyone talks about. and that's the worrying bit. and to build the builders, one thing we don't will surprise don't like, which will surprise most don't like the most people, we don't like the boom. like prices, boom. we don't like high prices, high kills off a whole high prices, kills off a whole generation new people coming generation of new people coming into market. we would rather into the market. we would rather have and have sustainability and a and a stable market because high prices, every time it goes up, i lose about 5 or 10 years of the people that can afford to buy the homes, and that can't be right. the homes, and that can't be rigiinteresting. carr, >> interesting. chris carr, thank very, very thank you for that. very, very interesting . and not exactly i interesting. and not exactly i have to be honest what have to be honest, what i expected to say very expected him to say very interesting. in a moment, we go to paris, we talk to a daily telegraph's paris correspondent who was there on the front lines with the protesters yesterday. are really trying to starve are they really trying to starve paris out
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>> well, perhaps unsurprisingly, some very strong reactions from you at home to that question of is this the biggest issue, the population explosion? neil's says immigration is the single most important issue. the country faces. julie says, i believe this country will be unrwa recognisable in a matter of ten years at most. and that's very much what paul mallen was saying just a moment ago. and many, many, many answers coming through . in similar vein . and through. in similar vein. and this is a strong, settled majority view in this country . majority view in this country. and yet it appears our politicians do nothing about it apart from make promises at election time. now let's go to france , where politics is very france, where politics is very real indeed, and it's being noficed. real indeed, and it's being noticed . here was today's front noticed. here was today's front page of the daily telegraph and wp page of the daily telegraph and yep, that was their lead story . yep, that was their lead story. farmers lay siege to paris with vow to cut off food. and it was
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henn vow to cut off food. and it was henri samuel, the paris correspondent of the telegraph, that filed that story. and he joins me live down the line from paris right now . so, henri, paris right now. so, henri, a very dramatic front page and talk of the enormous food market at rungis and tractors on the way to blockaded and 15,000 police and troops ready to stop them, i ask you , is it a serious them, i ask you, is it a serious desire of some in this protest to starve paris ? to starve paris? >> well , um , to starve paris? >> well, um , it certainly was. a >> well, um, it certainly was. a farmer did say this. and there is one particular, uh, farming union that, um, has threatened to occupy rungis, which is this is the world's biggest, uh, food fresh food market. um, it's as you said, it serves 12 million people a day. um this is one union. it's uh, called
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coordination rural. and they are they're quite they're pretty militant . and, um, they say, you militant. and, um, they say, you know , we need to go that far know, we need to go that far because the french and the parisians in particular need to know what happens when you don't have enough food. and we're the ones providing it now . um, i was ones providing it now. um, i was yesterday sent to a blockade. there are eight choke points around paris where tractors are, um, preventing people from coming in and out and. and these were manned by, i'd say slightly less militant, um, farmers who are very angry with the lack of, um , concessions they're getting um, concessions they're getting from the government. and to be honest, most of them were saying, look, we guys feed the nation. we don't starve the nation. we don't starve the nation. so no, we don't want to do this. that said that said, there is a group of 200 tractors that are as we speak, making their way to paris and we don't really know they're making their way to being all south of france
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. um, and they're going to arrive sometime tonight . and arrive sometime tonight. and it's unclear what they're going to do and how militant they will be. but one thing's for sure, they'll be met by armoured cars outside this market. they'll be met by drones. they'll be met by riot police . and i doubt very riot police. and i doubt very much they'll get that close to it. yeah >> no, i it looks like the french state is mobilising to stop that , uh, possibility from stop that, uh, possibility from happening . i mean, how long is happening. i mean, how long is this protest? is this siege of paris, as it's been called by many . how long paris, as it's been called by many. how long is this paris, as it's been called by many . how long is this supposed many. how long is this supposed to go on? >> well , it started obviously, >> well, it started obviously, this week, and i think really the, the, the idea behind it for the, the, the idea behind it for the unions certainly is to pressure the government of emmanuel macron to exert maximum pressure on the european commission um, uh, on thursday because, as you probably know, there's a european council summit that macron is going to
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go to. so they they and that's one of the reasons and the other one of the reasons and the other one was that france has a new prime minister who's only 34, called gabriella tal. and he was making his first lt gen policy statement to parliament today. so it was also to put pressure on, on him to try and say squeeze some some more concessions out of the government and so if they get what they want on thursday, we may see it starting to, to phase out, i would say, okay. >> but there's quite a strong eurosceptic element to this, isn't there? there's quite a lot of, well, a lot of these are brussels regulations. the net zero have all been zero targets have all been agreed in brussels. i mean, is macron really going to get the european union to change direction on these things? because surely easing regulations, easing directives is takes a long time. >> yeah , i mean macron i mean i >> yeah, i mean macron i mean i think he's probably right on one point which he said that he's in
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sweden today and he was pointing out that, you know, look, uh, france is a big, you know, benefit of the common agricultural policy . it gets the agricultural policy. it gets the biggest chunk. it gets like ,9 billion worth. and this is actually, you know, paying a lot of farmers. so in one sense, they can't just cut that off. um, but the new reforms of the cap, the, um, are kind of crazy . cap, the, um, are kind of crazy. and the farmers saying, you know, there are all these rules, for example, they have to have a certain amount of land fallow because of green. yeah. um regulation, the green pact , regulation, the green pact, they're not allowed to use a bunch of pesticides, but then they haven't. they said that we don't have, you know, enough replacements . and, um , so it's replacements. and, um, so it's all just too complicated . and all just too complicated. and they the red tape is driving them crazy. so they're just saying, please , can we simplify? saying, please, can we simplify? and the other big thing that they want is they want more. basically a level playing field. they feel that the french green
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plate european regulation make it even more difficult for them to do stuff, and so that the neighbours like, well, italy and spain can use , for example, spain can use, for example, certain pesticides that france has decided are beyond the pale. um, and they say that's unfair. yeah. there's a very familiar ring about these arguments for the brexit campaign a few years ago here. >> whatever comes from brussels, national government can, if it chooses , make worse. henry chooses, make worse. henry samuel , thank you for joining samuel, thank you for joining us. absolute fascinating situation . and folks at home, situation. and folks at home, i'm sure you've got the irony there that whilst the french are complaining about brussels net zero targets and brussels rules, they're also in receipt of a lot of money. now joe biden has said he has made a decision as to how he's going to respond to the iranian drone attacks that killed three people, but what would be a proportionate response will be joined in just a moment by a former british ambassador to iran
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>> so. >> so. >> before we get to iran , a >> before we get to iran, a early hours of the morning agreement amongst the members of the dup and their executive committee with their leader, sir jeffrey donaldson , that power jeffrey donaldson, that power sharing will return to stormont in northern ireland after a gap of a couple of years as you know, they fundamentally objected to the brexit deal to northern ireland effectively having a border in the irish sea with the mainland. now the reactions to this, the british government are very pleased that power sharing is coming back. sinn to be delighted sinn fein appear to be delighted that power sharing is coming back, and the dup may have been divided , but they've decided divided, but they've decided thatis divided, but they've decided that is what's going to happen now. there are no real details on other i think, than on this yet. other i think, than the british government promising a bit money for northern a bit more money for northern ireland. um, so if nothing's changed, how come power sharing
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is returning? well, these are early days , but dougie beattie early days, but dougie beattie gb news is northern ireland reporter. may be able to tell us just a little bit more . just a little bit more. >> well, good evening , just a little bit more. >> well, good evening, nigel. and you and i have spoken about this in the past and quite a few occasions, but, you know, you've got to go back to the brexit. the dup backed the brexit campaign and they believed, really believed that they were going to share in the benefits of brexit. and of course , it of brexit. and of course, it turned out that boris johnson signed the deal in the protocol in order to get brexit done that annexed northern ireland from the rest of the uk . and of the rest of the uk. and of course, northern ireland's main market is inside the uk. 70% of their goods go to the uk, so they very much wanted to be part of the uk single market. but then they were brought into the eu single market and they had rights to the uk single market
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and then rishi sunak of course brought in the windsor framework document because he thought he could get the unionists back in to the building behind me and of course he then gave away the foundation of the border in the irish sea to the eu and that legislation then. so whoever owns the foundation of the border, quite basically says what can go on in the border and you can do whatever you want on either side of the border. but whoever owns the border basically says, well, you can go with your goods and it started from there. and the eu have pushed and pushed, and we have ended up with these red and green lanes coming into northern ireland. so the dup still objected . and two years ago this objected. and two years ago this saturday, paul givan, who then first minister, collapsed the institution behind us now, sir jeffrey says that he has quite a few things in his pocket from this deal, including the rest of world trading that triangular trading, if you like , that goes trading, if you like, that goes on where you can bring goods from a third country to a third
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country, and then into northern ireland. uh, whether that is completely true or not, we'll know tomorrow. but you can't do that anywhere else in the eu. so some big factories here, of course, would bring goods from, uh, new zealand, australia . uh, new zealand, australia. they're then brought into factories that they own in yorkshire. they're made into a usable product and then brought across to northern ireland to be manufactured into its final product. companies like that were facing real, real problems . were facing real, real problems. so he claims now that they will not have the same problems and there will be a clear passage for those goods coming in into this part of the uk , and no big, this part of the uk, and no big, massive amounts of paperwork have to be filled in. the red lanes, of course, will stay the same. that's for goods that may go in and contaminate the eu , go in and contaminate the eu, but really at at the heels of this, it doesn't matter what sort of deal he has. unionists are now learning and they're learning a very hard lesson that
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if they do not unite and show , if they do not unite and show, uh, that the union is safe by people enjoying the benefits of the union. and like living in the union. and like living in the union, well, then there's always a border poll that can happen. it happened in scotland . happen. it happened in scotland. it could happen here. it's in the good friday agreement so sir jeffrey has decided that he's going back in. he's taking what he has got out of this deal. he's put it in his pocket and they're going to try and operate. uh the institutions behind us from inside. and that includes sorting out those pubuc includes sorting out those public sector union pay raises. and every other part of infrastructure in northern ireland that is currently. >> let's find out, dougie. let's find out just exactly what has been achieved by jeffrey donaldson . we'll more donaldson. we'll get more details tomorrow speak details tomorrow and we'll speak to thank you for to you then. and thank you for joining this joining us from stormont this evening . now, president biden evening. now, president biden has made a public statement . he has made a public statement. he has made a public statement. he has said he's decided what action he is going to take
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against iran. remember that three american service personnel were killed, 34 were wounded by that. were killed, 34 were wounded by that . that drone, that drone , of that. that drone, that drone, of course. and as with whether it's the houthis, we talk about whether it's hezbollah, we talk about whether it's hamas, we talk about they're all funded by iran . so i wonder what would be iran. so i wonder what would be a proper , passionate response. a proper, passionate response. and even saudi arabia, very much in a different camp , appear to in a different camp, appear to be urging some degree of restraint. but the president is under huge pressure, huge political pressure in america to be really tough. i'm very pleased to be joined by sir richard dalton, former british ambassador to iran, sir richard . ambassador to iran, sir richard. relationships rely shapps with iran. um have they ever been worse ? worse? >> no . uh, our trade has dropped >> no. uh, our trade has dropped off a cliff. uh, the british government warns british citizens against going to iran in the amount of sanctions that
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are levied against iran multilaterally and bilaterally are more than those levied against any other country , with against any other country, with the possible exception of russia. uh, and we take positions which the iranians regard as hostile and the iranians take positions which we regard as hostile. for example, there deplorable arming of russia and the effects that those , uh, suicide drones are those, uh, suicide drones are having on the civilian population and the infrastructure of ukraine. >> no, it's a very fair point. i mean, one of the arguments that's been made, sir richard, and, you know, like you, i'm quite sceptical about whether sanctions work , but it does seem sanctions work, but it does seem that that the iran nuclear deal, something very much pushed by the american , was supported by the american, was supported by biden from inception. um supported by the european union . supported by the european union. and indeed, you know, our own foreign office. it does seem
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that it's allowed iran to substantially build up its foreign reserves. the americans seemed very pleased that iran could build up these reserves. um, isn't surely part of it our fault that we've allowed iran? >> certainly not to build a war chest? certainly not, uh, for a country of 8 to 7 million people, a total reserves , people, a total reserves, foreign exchange reserves level . foreign exchange reserves level. of 23 billion, which is the latest imf figure . for nine for latest imf figure. for nine for 2023is latest imf figure. for nine for 2023 is not substantial oil and the fact is, the iranian economy is still being severely punished by the international environment within which it has to work. they succeed in evading sanctions and are selling now 2 million barrels of oil a day . million barrels of oil a day. the large amount of that going to china . so, yes, the sanctions
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to china. so, yes, the sanctions aren't working. and it's extremely difficult to find additional things that might be sanctioned. and so we should expect a american response. but i do have to point out that it wasn't an iranian attack. it was an attack by an iraqi islamist group that has a close connection with iran, and which may well have got the technology for the attack from iran. but these groups operate as an alliance with iran just the same way as the west has an alliance and draws on different forces to try and achieve its objectives , try and achieve its objectives, very often through invading other countries . and the result other countries. and the result is that the middle east is a turmoil of conflicts . and of turmoil of conflicts. and of course , there might be some course, there might be some effect on iran if america directs some of its violence against them. but these attacks, whether by israel or the united
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states over time, have not had had the effect which many statesmen in our countries think they should have. and that is because bombing countries does not have that effect of, quote , not have that effect of, quote, sending a message. look at where the houthis are now. despite the attacks by britain and the united states, unless you bomb a country into total submission , country into total submission, unless you really go to war with it, and nobody is prepared to go to war with iran because of the strength of iran, it's a far bigger mouthful to swallow than anything which the west has tackled in the middle east so far . far. >> well, some words of caution there from sir richard dalton, and we thank you for joining us live this evening on the program. thank you. well, some very interesting points made there. and you know it. this is a heck of a decision forjoe a heck of a decision for joe biden. now you'll all be very pleased to hear that. what the farage moment is that thousands more wind turbines will be
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neededin more wind turbines will be needed in the united kingdom to meet pledges made at cop 28, the climate change committee warned on monday. so we're basically going to have to build about another 20,000 wind turbines between now and 2030, despoiling , in my opinion, our landscapes and seascapes. , in my opinion, our landscapes and seascapes . but it doesn't and seascapes. but it doesn't always work . anyway, have a look always work. anyway, have a look at this picture from keir mather . just yesterday and one of the wind turbines caught on fire, and you see the picture there of the fire engine that's turned up, but it's all a bit too late. the motor has burnt out. i have never believed that this technology was the answer, and i'm not even sad when i see time after time them catching fire. that's just how i feel about it. in a moment . that's just how i feel about it. in a moment. something very disturbing. 1 in 9 fine british children are now registered as being disabled. and this, of course, is because of a huge increase in those being diagnosed with mental illness , diagnosed with mental illness, especially since the pandemic
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and lockdowns. but goodness me, 1 in 9. can it really be true? the new look patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. in a matter of weeks, two terrorist associates of the manchester arena bomber could be free on the streets of britain. >> i interview arena bombing survivor jake cluff, who wants them locked up for good. nigel farage is back on the show. what does he make of the uk housing? 6.1 million more people by 2036 due to immigration and big hitter tory mp jonathan gullis joins my panel for the very first time. oh, and find out what happened when i went to golders green to speak to people at the supermarket where an alleged knife attack took place yesterday . patrick christys yesterday. patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. be that
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disturbing. >> 1 in 9 british children are disabled , official figures disabled, official figures reveal diagnoses of mental health and behavioural conditions have surged since covid. now look, i'm in very little doubt that the second and third lockdowns were a complete disaster at every level, a disaster at every level, a disaster economically and certainly a disaster psychologically. so i can understand that a lot of children weren't normalised, didn't have the normal contact with other kids at school , with with other kids at school, with meeting family members, going out to play and all of those things. but surely 1 in 9 of our children can't be registered as disabled. and if we tell children that they're victims , children that they're victims, do they ever actually get better? that worries me enormously . well, i'm joined by enormously. well, i'm joined by lorraine marra , behavioural lorraine marra, behavioural specialist and adhd phd coach lorraine . these figures are lorraine. these figures are going up a sort of 30% up since the pandemic. this is a horrifying number. are we over
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diagnosing disability ? diagnosing disability? >> no you can't i don't see adhd as a disability. i just see it as a disability. i just see it as a disability. i just see it as a disorder , which is as a disorder, which is a neurobiological disorder. generally through the male line. so it's certainly more boys than girls . girls so it's certainly more boys than girls. girls tend to be ad right. attention deficit disorder without . although there disorder without. although there are girls i've seen girls that have the hyperactivity . you have the hyperactivity. you cannot over diagnose because there are so many hoops that you have to jump through to get to the point where you get that diagnosis , and then comes the diagnosis, and then comes the question of medication . question of medication. >> but do you get my point that if you if you tell young people they've got this condition or that condition that somehow they're victims , that's a very they're victims, that's a very bad mental place for them to be in. >> but i wouldn't use that language. i would say, you know what, darling? you have a problem. your brain works differently to other people . you
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differently to other people. you process information differently than other people. let's look at how we can make things better for you. and then i train mom and dad to support that. >> so is it a case that that the pandemic, the lockdowns, the lack of normal interaction for children as they're growing up has exacerbated? >> it hasn't exacerbated it? >> it hasn't exacerbated it? >> or are we just recognising it and diagnosing it more? >> i think it's probably a combination of both to be honest with you. we have, as you know, camhs child and adult mental health services, which which are a disaster in this country. we wait two years, years for an appointment and then there's three doctors. and if one of them sneezes, you're in trouble. okay so that's the first thing. and in that time, i just would like to, if i may just go into this for one minute, i promise
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to be really quick. if you think about a child that's waiting for about a child that's waiting for a diagnosis . yes, he's in school a diagnosis. yes, he's in school , he's disruptive in school . the , he's disruptive in school. the teacher can't cope with him and 30 other kids that teacher phones. 30 other kids that teacher phones . mom, 30 other kids that teacher phones. mom, mom can't come to school because mom is work ing, so they shove him somewhere out of the way. so he doesn't disrupt the other children. mom gets to school and goes, i'm fed up with you, right? gets hold of him, drags him home, puts him in front of a screen. what what's the worst thing you can do with somebody with adhd ? somebody with adhd? >> you tell me. >> you tell me. >> put them in front of a screen. you mean ipads ? screen. you mean ipads? absolutely >> electric devices? >> electric devices? >> absolutely. really >> absolutely. really >> why? >> why? >> because what happens is all that information goes into the brain, and then it it goes round like this . how interesting. and like this. how interesting. and very often that's why i say, please, no television in bedrooms. right. okay. right i
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say that if you look at kids when they're sleeping , often when they're sleeping, often they have rapid eye movement . they have rapid eye movement. that's what they're doing is they're replaying what they've seen in their head. so they're not sinking into that lovely , not sinking into that lovely, restful sleep, which means that are they getting their eight hours or whatever the prescribed amount ? no they're not. so do we amount? no they're not. so do we need to get them out playing sport and doing things and mixing with other kids and being with family in screens? >> interesting. hadn't >> how interesting. i hadn't realised you get realised that. now you get somebody, diagnose them with somebody, you diagnose them with adhd . so? so the answer then is adhd. so? so the answer then is to start drugging them. is it? >> oh i wouldn't call it drugging . i wouldn't say that. drugging. i wouldn't say that. i would say if you had a child that was epileptic . yeah. would that was epileptic. yeah. would you not give them medication or would you leave them in a corner to fit all i'm asking. >> all i'm really asking. i'm being a little bit sceptical. i'm just asking because i know millions of people are being put on adults. two are being put on
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uppers and downers and goodness knows what do these drugs ? knows what do these drugs? actually, yes. what what it is, is very quickly you have here a neurotransmitter emitter in an adhd person that is underactive . adhd person that is underactive. >> please, i'm not a doctor and i'm not a neurologist. you can find this out if you doctor google . right. this is under google. right. this is under active. what the medication often does is stimulate that neurotransmitter to carry the chemicals into the frontal lobes of the brain on dopamine that helps you. so if i said to you, i want you to stand on this desk and go like that and wobble about and bang on the glass, well, i might well do it, but go on. yeah adhd. um, i was, i would, you would say , no, no, i would, you would say, no, no, i can't do that because and then you would be able to think about that if i said to an adhd kid, go on, jump on there. do it. oh yeah. great fun. >> yeah. okay so we can't make
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people better . people better. >> we can support them . but let >> we can support them. but let me be very clear. the medication is a window of opportunity to put a behavioural management program in place. so that everybody is saying and doing the same thing. it's not a one stop shop. take a pill. the same thing. it's not a one stop shop. take a pill . all stop shop. take a pill. all done. no. sure. >> there in. fascinating. thank you . i think there's one thing you. i think there's one thing that lorraine said there that i didn't know, which was if you've got a kid that's got those sort of problems, the very worst thing you can do is to say to them, you know, the ipad, them, you know, here's the ipad, here's a mobile phone, here's a you know, a series of films you can um, and reckon can watch. um, and i reckon that's good parental that's pretty good parental advice all youngsters, not advice for all youngsters, not just those with a adhd, but of course, somebody who would know far parenting than me far more about parenting than me because he has an enormous number of children. his our next presenter, jacob rees—mogg . that presenter, jacob rees—mogg. that was interesting, wasn't it? very, extremely interesting. >> yes. i'm afraid i'm a bit guilty of allowing screens, but
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mainly say my children can watch gb which can only possibly gb news, which can only possibly be good for them. nice one. so jacob, what have we got coming up? what have we got? we're going to be talking about the train strikes, not so much about the unions. we've covered that and know there are hard left and we know there are hard left unions. but the utter wetness of the companies, unions. but the utter wetness of the got companies, unions. but the utter wetness of the got this companies, unions. but the utter wetness of the got this law.)mpanies, unions. but the utter wetness of the got this law. they1ies, unions. but the utter wetness of the got this law. they can they've got this law. they can use and they're not doing it. do they like customers? they not like their customers? are getting nice fat are they just getting nice fat subsidies sitting idly by? subsidies and sitting idly by? >> yeah . and strangely, i came >> yeah. and strangely, i came in kent by car today. there in from kent by car today. there were a few more cars on the road, but it appears now when there strikes . so life there were rail strikes. so life seems carry on. or do people seems to carry on. or do people just stay at home? i guess the railway is not important as railway is not as important as they were. >> people from home and >> people can work from home and although i don't working although i don't think working from answer to all from home is an answer to all problems, it doesn't cause the problems. or two when problems. on a day or two when there aren't trains working from home very good replacement. there aren't trains working from homyou very good replacement. there aren't trains working from homyou notice good replacement. there aren't trains working from homyou notice thisi replacement. there aren't trains working from homyou notice this ineplacement. there aren't trains working from homyou notice this in london ent. and you notice this in london when on strike. when the tubes are on strike. london traffic's a nightmare and you get a when the you can't get a taxi when the trains are on strike. hardly makes difference. makes any difference.
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>> right. you've >> you're right. and you've also got a little bit of history tonight, haven't you? i have, yes. well, wm lfilam- >> well, today is the anniversary of the execution of charles king and martyr. um, in 1649. be touching on 1649. and i will be touching on that, that's why i'm that, though that's not why i'm wearing tie. wearing a black tie. >> fascinating, fascinating. and of at you may of course, folks at home you may not know this, but jacob rees—mogg is the last person alive that remembers himself. the execution of king charles. >> i have got a handkerchief. >> i have got a handkerchief. >> i have got a handkerchief. >> i beg unkind. i'm being unkind . i'm >> i beg unkind. i'm being unkind. i'm back >> i beg unkind. i'm being unkind . i'm back with you unkind. i'm back with you tomorrow night live at 7:00. but for now, let's have a look at the weather. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers spot of weather up. boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news is . on gb news is. >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast not a clear start to the night across some southern parts of the uk , but it does turn the uk, but it does turn increasingly cloudy in the north and the and increasingly and the west, and increasingly windy. of low pressure windy. this area of low pressure . it's going to pass to the north of the uk, but as it does
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so , it really deepens aggressive so, it really deepens aggressive and tightly packed isobars will bnng and tightly packed isobars will bring very strong winds to northern parts of the country throughout wednesday. for the time being, though, it's relatively light winds across the midlands into southern parts of we're losing the of england and we're losing the cloud in southeast cloud overnight in the southeast . so where see any cloud . so where we see any cloud breaks and with those light winds, temperatures will fall breaks and with those light windsto amperatures will fall breaks and with those light windsto freezing. 'es will fall breaks and with those light windsto freezing. a. will fall breaks and with those light windsto freezing. a touch all close to freezing. a touch of frost first thing a few mist frost first thing and a few mist and patches, but actually and fog patches, but actually plenty of sunshine away from these patches across some these fog patches across some central elsewhere a lot central parts. elsewhere a lot of cloud in the sky increasingly cloudy across southern areas and increasingly wet and windy in scotland, northern ireland and northern england. gales for many in the northern half of the uk, 65 mile an hour wind gusts widely and as much as 85 for the far north of scotland could cause disruption and those wind gusts could be damaging . but the gusts could be damaging. but the worst of the winds and the rain move through. by the start of thursday , a which begins thursday, a day which begins with plenty of sunshine and actually it stays largely dry and bright into the afternoon,
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although there will be some wet weather returning to the west of scotland the is out. scotland before the day is out. friday unsettled in the north, less unsettled in the south, saturday brings more rain but it stays mild . stays mild. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .
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gb news. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight , the british nation tonight, the british pubucis nation tonight, the british public is facing even more disruption from the industrial inaction of the rail unions. but train drivers are among the best paid people in the country. so why are they going on strike? a leaky loyalist reveals the democratic unionist party has finally endorsed a deal to restore northern ireland's government after nearly two years of gridlock over power sharing between unionists and nationalists . it
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