trust your chemist >> would you trust your chemist to treat you for sore throat? to treat you for a sore throat? infected bites or infected insect bites or shingles? now you can shingles? well, now you can under new plans to alleviate pressure on gp's and a powerful police presence, police in leicestershire plan to bring back victorian blue lamps to make spaces more less make spaces more welcoming, less like shopfronts. >> are they focusing on the right thing or. not? >> we're going to be talking to the journalist who has been pushing and pushing and pushing for the truth behind this, martin bashir interview story to be revealed. >> well, it's down to him and he wept that the bbc has released 3000 documents, 10,000 pages and it's reveals an astonishing cover up by the bbc as to not just how bashir extracted the story, but how they tried to gloss over how he did it. >> yeah, so we'll be bringing you up to speed and we'll be reminding you as well of the background of that story. and of

course, brexit anniversary. course, it's brexit anniversary. for that we for years to today that we left the . remember was the eu. i remember where i was when heard the news. do you when i heard the news. do you remember where you and remember where you were and would still the same would you still vote the same way voted one way and now way now? i voted one way and now i would definitely vote the other we will be other way. but we will be discussing that. first of all though, your very latest though, here's your very latest news sam. bev and andrew, news with sam. bev and andrew, thank you very much. >> and good morning from the gb news room, the headlines just after government is after 930, the government is expected to publish details later of its deal with the dup . later of its deal with the dup. the party withdrew from power sharing in northern ireland almost two years ago. that was in protest against arrangements brought brexit. but the brought in after brexit. but the new agreement, though, will include legislation to strengthen trading arrangements include legislation to strenthezn trading arrangements include legislation to strenthe restading arrangements include legislation to strenthe rest of ng arrangements include legislation to strenthe rest of the|rrangements include legislation to strenthe rest of the ukigements include legislation to strenthe rest of the uk .]ements include legislation to strenthe rest of the uk . theents with the rest of the uk. the deal will also give a package of more than £3 billion to northern ireland to support its struggling public services . struggling public services. bosses from tata steel are being questioned by mps this morning over their port talbot plans. earlier this month , the steel

earlier this month, the steel giant announced it will close its blast furnaces in south wales , impacting 2800 jobs. the wales, impacting 2800 jobs. the company says it's moving to a more environmentally friendly production of steel, which requires fewer workers. however the committee of mps say they want to understand how the decision will impact the steel industry in wales. the local community and the welsh economy . community and the welsh economy. the home secretary has pledged to build closer ties with france to build closer ties with france to tackle illegal channel crossings. james cleverly met the french interior minister in paris yesterday after more than 1000 migrants arrived in the uk. so far this month on small boats . the renewed efforts to prevent channel crossings could see more police officers posted to the coast and more funding for equipment and facilities and nicola sturgeon has arrived at the uk covid 19 inquiry as she gives evidence amid ongoing scrutiny over the deletion of her whatsapp messages. the former first minister says she acted in line with scottish

government policy by not saving those messages on her devices. however, she has managed to retrieve some copies and submit them to the inquiry. miss sturgeon may also face questions about calling boris johnson a clown in her messages . and for clown in her messages. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. now, though, it's back to andrew and bev . well it was an bev. well it was an extraordinary bbc cover up over the interview. >> one of probably the most important tv interviews in our lifetime . it was the interview lifetime. it was the interview that shocked the world. >> right, journalist >> that's right, the journalist martin has claimed. now martin bashir has claimed. now we reveal we've seen in recent documents that racism was behind the accusations that he used forged documents to secure that interview. >> that's the interview, of course, with the princess of wales. panorama back in 1995, which you could argue changed the face of the royal family see, anyway, the revelations

have come out with the release of 10,000 documents, 3000 emails, they've been emails, and they've been released because of the assiduous campaigning by the investigative journalist andy webb. >> yeah, that's right, let's not forget more than £150,000 was spent by the bbc on legal fees, trying to keep secret this cache of documents , uh, relating to of documents, uh, relating to this alleged cover up of the controversy . controversy. >> and a judge had to order the bbc to release the emails. in a ruling last month, following a freedom of information request from the chernihiv filmmaker andy webb, joins now, andy webb, who joins us now, andy, morning to you. this is extraordinary, let alone the interview with with princess diana, where she famously said there was three in my marriage. she was referring to camilla parker bowles. the suggestion that she was being spied on by mi5 , that that that she was being spied on by m15 , that that she was facing m15, that that she was facing death threats, that prince charles had paid for an abortion for the nanny of william and to harry legge—bourke what your what your investigative journalism has done is exposed the extraordinary lengths the

bbc went to cover up all of this i >> -- >> yeah. i exam >> yeah. i think that is fair. i would also say, and this is to not the, uh, you know, pat myself on the head unnecessarily, but the it was actually because of a document that was released to me in october of 2020 by that the bashir scandal became known . in bashir scandal became known. in the first place. and i'll explain even briefly what happened. um, the, the i had put in another freedom of information request in response to that, the bbc gave to me a document with this extraordinary allegation that it was actually earl spencer , diana's brother, earl spencer, diana's brother, who had for unknown , unexplained who had for unknown, unexplained reasons, given martin bashir the role ingredients for his famous forged bank statements. now at the very. and it was as a result

of that once earl spencer realised this, this horrible allegation was out there, he went and got his own , his own went and got his own, his own notes, which he'd kept for all these years, uh, made . them these years, uh, made. them public. and we had lord dyson. and the scandal is what we know now, at the same time that the bbc, um , published initially bbc, um, published initially just to me, that extraordinary allegation , then we now know allegation, then we now know that they were sitting on a whole range of documents and one of them in particular, an eight page memo, was walks you through. it really walks you through. it really walks you through the cover up that took place back in 1996. so these emails that i finally , um, emails that i finally, um, yesterday evening got , i wanted yesterday evening got, i wanted to understand, if you like, let's call it the wireless chatter that was going on in the bbc at that time. late in 2020. uh, that led to the release of the allegations and the suppression of these very, very damaging documents from a bbc, bbc perspective . so fascinating .

bbc perspective. so fascinating. and sadly, if you like, for me, is this we know, we know that that has happened. we know that the bbc released that document x but didn't release document y. thatis but didn't release document y. that is not in dispute . what is that is not in dispute. what is in dispute is actually who planned it, who carried this out. and that is what these emails, um , hopefully will tell emails, um, hopefully will tell us once we get behind the man of redaction that exists within them. >> well, let's say there's ten 000 documents. andy and there's a lot of black ink on them. and they'll say it's for reasons of privacy, but bear in mind, the bbc told us that all these documents were irrelevant anyway. begs question documents were irrelevant anyv did begs question documents were irrelevant anyv did they begs question documents were irrelevant anyv did they spend? question documents were irrelevant anyv did they spend? think stion documents were irrelevant anyv did they spend? think your why did they spend? i think you think figure is closer to think the figure is closer to £250,000 to try to keep them private , but if there was this private, but if there was this cover up , it private, but if there was this cover up, it must have private, but if there was this cover up , it must have been at private, but if there was this cover up, it must have been at a very this very high level. how does this reflect current direct reflect on the current direct heir, general tim davie, who came in after lord hall, who was the head of news back in 1996, who said martin bashir had done

a great scoop and had done nothing wrong. >> well, i would love to be able to ask tim davie that very question. i mean, what i can say is this that there is clear evidence emails i've evidence from emails that i've already seen that at the centre. if you like, or close to the centre of our email circle is the chief of staff to the director general, a chap called phil harrold . now, if mr harrold phil harrold. now, if mr harrold was acting as chief of staff with the blessing of his immediate boss, just just one rung up, then that does raise enormous questions. i think about, um, tim davies , uh, role about, um, tim davies, uh, role in this and also bear in mind you, you, you referred there to the extraordinary amount of money that has been spent here. i um, it was confirmed to me yesterday, the day before yesterday, the day before yesterday, in fact, that the bbc have spent on external lawyers alone, just external lawyers , alone, just external lawyers, £151,000. they for what it

matters. they've spent about £14,000. they tell me on uh actually storing these these emails that they've sent me, but they've also been working on it. people have been working on it inside the bbc for getting on for three years. and i say, well, if you've spent 151,000 on your external lawyers and your 14 grand on your computers , as 14 grand on your computers, as i suspect you've spent the same again over three years internally, which brings you up to well over a quarter of £1 million. >> and sorry, as i say, it's probably no exaggeration to say that this interview arguably changed the course of history . changed the course of history. see, because of the trust that diana had in the family, any trust that was remaining at that point was was gone after this because of the alleged falsehoods that were sold to her in order to get this interview. um, that could be one reason why you would pursue it, but also, i'm just interested from a

personal point of view, what it is motivated get is that has motivated you to get to bottom of this. are there to the bottom of this. are there . criminal actions at play here, do you think? well it's you know, i'm a i'm a i'm a journalist. >> so all i do is try and find out stuff. but it is a fact that to unlawfully conceal information that ought to be given to anybody who requests it under freedom of information to unlawful conceal actually is a crime, and it actually has an unlimited fine. now as we speak, um , people at the what's called um, people at the what's called the ico, that's the body that administers the freedom of information act. they are looking to see whether the bbc has, as i allege, commits an actual, um, criminal offence. it's to me , um, you mentioned it's to me, um, you mentioned the way that it it changed history. i also think you've got to bear in mind the effect, um, this had on on people like

prince william when he, when the dyson report came out. that was the report that, um, as i'm sure you know, that looked at this and there was an inquiry and he determined that the bbc had covered up prince william, then went with this very , very went public with this very, very moving and heartfelt speech. it very , very fascinatingly, i very, very fascinatingly, i think , really pointing the think, really pointing the finger not so much at bashir as the lone assassin, if you like the lone assassin, if you like the rogue journalist, he was actually pointing the finger very, very much at the bbc. he was saying it was the bbc who had not asked the right questions. they had not tried to bottom out what had happened when it looked like something very, very bad had happened. and as a result of that, my understanding of prince william's speech was that , as he william's speech was that, as he put it, it led to the paranoia and so on, that his, in his words, his mother suffered from in the final 18 months of her life. yeah. um, yeah . and that life. yeah. um, yeah. and that really counts. that really does

count. it's one it's easy to point the finger at martin bashir as the rogue journalist and say, oh god, that's terrible stuff. but we know that journalists occasionally go off the go off the reservation . but the go off the reservation. but when you get senior managers at the bbc, this, this corporation, which we're all supposed to trust and revere to, to an extent, if they have , they know extent, if they have, they know something's not right, but they haven't done anything about it. then that it's not good. >> and as recently as 2020, martin bashir is claiming that it is his race. yes. am i right, andy? in these emails saying it's because of my race, because of my background. that's why i'm under scrutiny for this . under scrutiny for this. >> he is saying that i was >> he he is saying that i was i was fascinated to see that it's a fascinating observation that he has um, i've got to say, quite frankly, it is kind of, you know, tangential to what

i've been, uh, looking at, oddly enough , um, the bbc, i think enough, um, the bbc, i think remarkably and unbelievably have claimed that this whole, these whole 10,000 pages of documents are all, all of them irrelevant. >> now , as it happens, one could >> now, as it happens, one could argue that martin bashir's claim there that he got on the wrong side of some people for the wrong reasons. well, maybe he did, maybe he didn't. you could actually claim that that is irrelevant what been irrelevant to what i've been seeking. but but i tell you what, a lot of stuff in what, there's a lot of stuff in there that is by no means irrelevant. i mean, okay, andy, thanks so much forjoining us. >> and congratulations and well done for pursuing it. you're a credit the journalistic credit to the journalistic profession. that's andy webb, freelance journalist. in a statement, said any statement, the bbc said any suggestion in faith suggestion it acted in bad faith was wrong. suggestion it acted in bad faith wasthat's wrong. suggestion it acted in bad faith wasthat's wronthey said . they >> that's right, they said. they said a bit more than that. throughout this process, we have taken responsibilities taken our responsibilities to comply of comply with the directions of the tribunal extremely seriously

. uh, therefore, we have today released approximately 3000 documents, some 10,000 pages, to mr webb. this latest disclosure includes many hundreds of pages of duplicates and material that was not related to the 1995 panorama, but it was nevertheless caught by the electronic searches. >> let's talk to richard tice . >> let's talk to richard tice. who's the reform uk? what a load of hogwash. it's taken . good of hogwash. it's taken. good morning. it's first of all, happy brexit day, happy brexit, happy brexit day, happy brexit, happy brexit day, happy brexit, happy brexit day. brexit. >> um, but this is extraordinary and the quantity the time it's taken. >> yeah the redactions when people start redacting stuff. yeah frankly what are they hiding. you know, what are they hiding. you know, what are they hiding. yeah. >> and you can't say these documents are irrelevant and then of them because then redact half of them because they're irrelevant. then redact half of them because the i re irrelevant. then redact half of them because thei mean, irrelevant. then redact half of them because thei mean, i irrelevant. then redact half of them because thei mean, i actuallylevant. then redact half of them because thei mean, i actually i,vant. then redact half of them because thei mean, i actually i, lint. >> i mean, i actually i, i laughed at that statement laughed at that first statement from and the from the bbc and the consequences actually are even more the two more serious because the two princes trust in not just the bbc, but the whole media collapse trust. and it may well be tragically , that's in a way, be tragically, that's in a way, what's prince harry what's led to prince harry ending up taking the course that he's taken. yeah. so the

consequences as said, consequences, as you said, quite rightly, the domino effect, the course of history has been changed by this one single interview. yeah. and what looks like the horrors within it, the red tops behave pretty badly with the royals back in, back in the day. >> we know that. but who who >> we know that. but who was who was charge against was leading the charge against the red tops? the pompous, pious bbc. are probably bbc. and they are probably guilty one of the worst cover guilty of one of the worst cover ups journalism. guilty of one of the worst cover upsi journalism. guilty of one of the worst cover upsi think nalism. guilty of one of the worst cover upsi think it'ssm. guilty of one of the worst cover upsi think it's amazing, >> i think it's amazing, actually, that they haven't actually, that that they haven't suffered more consequences. there calls , there haven't been calls, frankly, for the whole organisation in that sort of almost unfit for purpose. yeah. i mean, if this was any other media organisation, there would be for broken up. be calls for it to be broken up. yeah. guess what, closed yeah. or guess what, closed down. mean, yeah , yeah. so down. i mean, yeah, yeah. so it's whole entity was predicated on lies and the bbc covered up and covered up and covered up. >> he's saying quarter of a million. that's public money. yeah. >> it's and it'll be way more than that. of course the truth is i mean they've done this for years. it's one of the most shocking years. it's one of the most sho right. years. it's one of the most shoright. so it is four years >> right. so it is four years since formally left the

since we formally left the european it is a happy european union. it is a happy day for you, richard. also day for you, richard. we've also got in got scarlett mccgwire in with us, scarlet. good to us, pollster scarlet. good to see scarlet and the see you. scarlet and the country, of course, voted to leave by 52% to 48% in the referendum in 2016. but the political turmoil and division is still felt today. >> a few of the brexit pledges that are made before the vote included £350 million a week for the frictionless trade, the nhs, frictionless trade, new trade the world, trade deals around the world, take immigration. trade deals around the world, takethat immigration. trade deals around the world, takethat went immigration. trade deals around the world, takethat went well mmigration. trade deals around the world, takethat went well and gration. trade deals around the world, takethat went well and end on. oh, that went well and end supremacy of eu law . um, so supremacy of eu law. um, so i voted for brexit. i'm glad i stuck and i'm glad i did. >> let me just bring in scarlett. so scarlett, what the polls about the polls tell us now about the direction which people would vote. >> yeah. so think the >> yeah. so i think the direction quite clear and direction is quite clear and there a trend, i think, there is a trend, i think, towards back to the eu, towards moving back to the eu, but be but i think people can be slightly what but i think people can be sligpolls what but i think people can be sligpolls say, what but i think people can be sligpolls say, because what but i think people can be sligpolls say, because i what the polls say, because i remember over the summer there was a poll that said, you know, there's net support for another referendum also referendum and there's also majority rejoining referendum and there's also majoritynow, rejoining referendum and there's also majoritynow, at rejoining referendum and there's also majoritynow, at the rejoining referendum and there's also majoritynow, at the moment that the eu. now, at the moment that is case. but the poll is the case. but the poll actually asked in the next ten years ask in the next years and if you ask in the next yean years and if you ask in the next year, net opposition. year, there's net opposition. people not want to go. in

people do not want to go. in fact, there's majority opposition. actually fact, there's majority oppctellsi. actually fact, there's majority oppctellsi. a actually fact, there's majority oppctellsi. a lot actually fact, there's majority oppctellsi. a lot more:tually fact, there's majority oppctellsi. a lot more about that tells you a lot more about where people are, because if you ask i'll do ten years ask me what i'll do in ten years time, i think i can do anything in ten years and put anything off. one year is actually much more. it focuses your mind a lot more. it focuses your mind a lot more. think there's that. more. so i think there's that. and also think the and then i also think the problem is both sides will have a problem in event a problem in the event of another referendum campaign. i think the things that think a lot of the things that brexit said it going to brexit said it was going to deren brexit said it was going to deliver, don't think it deliver, people don't think it has. we hear has. that's what we hear from voters time. you have voters all the time. so you have a situation in which remainers are unhappy because they didn't a situation in which remainers are lforappy because they didn't a situation in which remainers are lforappleaversse they didn't a situation in which remainers are lforappleavers are 1ey didn't a situation in which remainers are lforappleavers are unhappyt vote for it. leavers are unhappy because they don't feel like it's and actually, it's delivered. and actually, in general, trust since brexit has plummeted. that's plummeted. and i think that's going biggest going to be the biggest issue for trying persuade for anyone trying to persuade richard coiled richard tice is like a coiled spnng richard tice is like a coiled spring beside me. spring here beside me. >> richard, react. >> go on richard, react. >> go on richard, react. >> that's fascinating >> look, that's fascinating because says >> look, that's fascinating bethat e says >> look, that's fascinating bethat people says >> look, that's fascinating bethat people much ys is that people have got much bigger to worry about. bigger things to worry about. >> think about it in >> they might think about it in ten time, but next year ten years time, but next year i've things to i've got much bigger things to worry it's the worry about. whether it's the cost of living, whether it's the state health service or state of the health service or the that's, the immigration, that's, that's, that's changing the nature of our we speak. that's changing the nature of omthat's we speak. that's changing the nature of omthat's fascinating. we speak. that's changing the nature of omthat's fascinating. and peak. that's changing the nature of omthat's fascinating. and let's so that's fascinating. and let's

remember we to the remember when we went to the polls referendum, the remember when we went to the polls said referendum, the remember when we went to the polls said that ferendum, the remember when we went to the polls said that remain m, the remember when we went to the polls said that remain .|, the remember when we went to the polls said that remain . itthe remember when we went to the polls said that remain . it would polls said that remain. it would be 45. so the polls can be 55, 45. so the polls can often be wrong. >> cameron was told at 6 pm. on the day of the referendum by andrew cooper, who's now in the house lords courses. but it house of lords courses. but it was to 12 point lead and was a 10 to 12 point lead and that's why was such a shock that's why it was such a shock to mr remainer david cameron that the that it went completely the other way. >> the right thing to do, >> it was the right thing to do, great that great opportunity that this government's utterly failed to take advantage need take advantage of. you need proper brexiteers in proper brexiteers to be in charge to run the place. >> how would it be different if you'd been running show? you'd been running the show? richard very simple. >> you've got to go into a negotiation b, which >> you've got to go into a neto tiation b, which >> you've got to go into a neto sayon b, which >> you've got to go into a neto say no b, which >> you've got to go into a neto say no deal, b, which >> you've got to go into a neto say no deal, sorry, b, which >> you've got to go into a neto say no deal, sorry, no which is to say no deal, sorry, no dealis is to say no deal, sorry, no deal is better a bad deal. deal is better than a bad deal. >> to say, >> which mrs. may used to say, you remember because i said it. >> nicked me. >> she nicked that from me. yeah, to mean it. yeah, but you've got to mean it. you can't have a negotiation if you don't mean it. so she wasn't prepared was prepared to walk away, nor was cameron when he did his negotiation. they failed. negotiation. so they failed. look, should they look, they should have they should gone for they should have gone for it. they should have gone for it. they should they should have. did what they said, which our which was to control our borders, reduce immigration, then and vast then cut taxes and cut the vast amount eu regulations.

amount of dafta eu regulations. >> impossible to tell >> impossible though, to tell the effect brexit because the the effect of brexit because the lockdowns and the covid and all of that came hot on the heels of it. and so that's a little bit what scarlett was saying is that neither side feel that they've what scarlett was saying is that neitany.;ide feel that they've what scarlett was saying is that neitany. but feel that they've what scarlett was saying is that neitany. but what hat they've what scarlett was saying is that neitany. but what hat 1can�*ve correct. >> but what you can say is that although we are struggling, we're doing a lot better than the and other the likes of germany and other eu countries who are in recession yeah. so recession as we speak. yeah. so those who say we should rush back in, they're all as nirvana on the other side of the channel it's not at the last it's clearly not at the last election. it's clearly not at the last ele�*scarlett. brexit get brexit >> scarlett. brexit get brexit done. slogan for done. very powerful slogan for bofis done. very powerful slogan for boris johnson helped the done. very powerful slogan for boriwall.nson helped the done. very powerful slogan for boriwall. thereielped the done. very powerful slogan for boriwall. there will d the done. very powerful slogan for boriwall. there will be. the done. very powerful slogan for boriwall. there will be. will the red wall. there will be. will there be any brexit dividend for there be any brexit dividend for the tories this time or would that richard tice party? that go to richard tice party? >> mean tice >> well, i mean richard tice party are on up in the polls party are on the up in the polls and have seeing that. and we have been seeing that. but no, brexit isn't but i think no, brexit isn't such issue. but what we've such an issue. but what we've seen replaced, seen is it's been replaced, i think, voters by sort think, with those voters by sort of immigration. so what we have think, with those voters by sort of imthough, n. so what we have think, with those voters by sort of imthough, i. so what we have think, with those voters by sort of imthough, i think'hat we have think, with those voters by sort of imthough, i think ist we have think, with those voters by sort of imthough, i think is reallyiave seen though, i think is really important say that, you know, important to say that, you know, bofis important to say that, you know, boris that boris johnson won that 2019 election to election because he managed to persuade leave persuade three quarters of leave voters to vote for him, along with other things. rishi with some other things. rishi

sunak only. yeah, exactly. corbyn too. corbyn was a big factor too. huge factor. and sunak is huge factor. and rishi sunak is now holding to just over now only holding on to just over 30% voters. it's 30% of those leave voters. it's slightly labour's slightly more than labour's getting still, but it's not really and really good enough. and that brexit that enabled brexit coalition that enabled the to win 2019 longer the tories to win 2019 no longer exists, they've not found exists, and they've not found another one. so i things another one. so i mean, things look pretty at the moment look pretty bleak at the moment and think they're going and i don't think they're going to brexit or to be able to use brexit or actually anything else to persuade vote for them persuade people to vote for them dunng persuade people to vote for them during today during the guardian today that labour getting worried about labour are getting worried about losing which losing the muslim vote, which i think to rely on think they used to rely on between 70 to 90. >> this on back >> and this is on the back of the won't support the fact starmer won't support a ceasefire the fact starmer won't support a ceasefiia tricky issue for the >> it's a tricky issue for the labour party. it's a tricky issue internally with their own mps. make a difference mps. it could make a difference in in a few seats. it could change things. i don't think it's going to change the overall election . um, you know, election result. um, you know, it's something they are it's something that they are sort tearing themselves to sort of tearing themselves to pieces, think, internally pieces, i think, internally about at least having about or at least having conversations, about or at least having c(lot3rsations, about or at least having c( lot of ations, about or at least having c( lot of that s, about or at least having c( lot of that hasn't boiled over a lot of that hasn't boiled over externally, which i think is probably, to keir starmers credit . um, yeah, probably, to keir starmers credit. um, yeah, but credit. yeah. um, yeah, but i do. will make a difference. do. it will make a difference. i think some individual mps are

very worried about how their seats at the next seats are looking at the next election. seats are looking at the next electionthat's because, richard, >> and that's because, richard, there will independent there will be independent candidates there will be independent candiithat. there will be independent candiithat will get the muslim seats that will get the muslim vote that would otherwise have voted we've voted for labour. we've seen this footage in the last this amazing footage in the last 24 hours of the rochdale labour candidate announcing his intention to win the seat there, but let's have a little look at it and it is a little odd. >> i'm proud and humbled to be selected as the parliamentary candidate in rochdale, uh, candidate here in rochdale, uh, with the support of so many members, the battle now starts and we're going to go out there and we're going to go out there and knock on every single door and knock on every single door and make sure we get a spot for labour send rishi sunak labour and send rishi sunak a clear message . enough enough. clear message. enough is enough. after 14 years neglect , after 14 years of neglect, kuciak has selected where rochdale labour party other than . samita or amari . awards go . samita or amari. awards go britannia , parliament or sonari britannia, parliament or sonari

amari . community tariq bannau amari. community tariq bannau nick hewer generation so . nick hewer generation so. i would have thought i've covered a few campaigns in my time. >> i've never heard that before. richard tice i have to say. >> i mean, what that tell >> i mean, what does that tell you about where we're that you about where we're at? that so part of that so the greater part of that election introduction . varne. election introduction. varne. yeah. uh, video by the labour candidate is in a different language. yeah i'm not actually sure what language it is. it doesn't really matter. >> we shouldn't have to know what language that is. >> saying, is it urdu? >> we're saying, is it urdu? i don't know, i don't feel i have with with. >> look, there are lots of wonderful languages out there, but united but this is the united kingdom. our and our language is english. and elections conducted in elections should be conducted in english. it is as simple as that . i think that's very, very i don't know, it's extraordinary actually. it's quite shocking what's gone on there. >> is that a reflection to their scarlett that labour are worried now that they feel they have to adopt the, the, the dialect language to because they're worried they're going to lose thesedon't think it's >> i don't think it's necessarily the labour as

necessarily the labour party as a clearly mp thought a whole. clearly that mp thought it was worth his time to do. i think it's more down to individual how they individual mps and how they choose their campaigns. individual mps and how they cho> richard scarlett, we need to move on. it is four years to the day we the eu. we're day since we left the eu. we're going to be looking the going to be looking at the financial do you think financial impact. do you think brexit poorer ? where's brexit made you poorer? where's that £350 million a week on for the nhs ? the nhs? >> that was that. >> that was that. >> nigel farage said that, didn't you can ask him didn't he. you can ask him a brighter with boxt solar brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of whether on . gb news. sponsors of whether on. gb news. >> hello again. very good morning to you alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast. it is going to forecast. whilst it is going to be largely across be largely dry today across southern areas , there's heavy southern areas, there's heavy rain north and very

rain further north and very strong association with strong winds in association with a deep area of low pressure to the north of the uk. this has been ingham by the been named storm ingham by the norwegian met but from norwegian met service, but from the point of view, it's not the uk's point of view, it's not going as impactful some going to be as impactful as some recent nonetheless recent storms. nonetheless a very windy day across northern parts. gusts of 80 to 85mph quite likely, and some heavy rain as a band of rain pushes its way southwards across parts of scotland, bringing some snow over the higher ground and then later into parts of northern england across northern england and across northern ireland. two like i said, staying dry in the south and temperatures here reaching highs of around 11, possibly 12 celsius. even further north, likely to get double likely to get into double figures. rain band then figures. that rain band then does hs figures. that rain band then does its way does continue its way southwards, eases and southwards, but it eases and breaks so by the breaks up as it goes, so by the time reaches southern parts time it reaches southern parts overnight, to be overnight, it's not going to be particularly and then particularly heavy and then should clear as we should largely clear away as we go night. some go through the night. some clearer skies developing for many but continuation clearer skies developing for miblustery but continuation clearer skies developing for miblustery showers continuation clearer skies developing for miblustery showers acrossiation clearer skies developing for miblustery showers across parts of blustery showers across parts of blustery showers across parts of scotland, some of these could be wintry at times elsewhere, where we see some clear skies, a touch frost and some touch of frost and some fog patches watch for. first

patches to watch out for. first thing tomorrow morning. otherwise go through otherwise as we go through tomorrow. it's actually tomorrow. for many it's actually looking like a largely day, looking like a largely fine day, but across but some more showers across parts north west scotland parts of north west scotland before pushes its way in before rain pushes its way in from the northwest later on and in it may in the southwest, it may stay a bit dank and drizzly through much of the afternoon temperatures. bit down temperatures. a little bit down compared to today. by that compared to today. by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . boilers sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> up next we're going to delve deeper and deeper into this frankly shameful bbc cover up over martin bashir and how he got that extraordinary interview with princess diana where she famously declared, there were three in marriage and three people in my marriage and they've spent a quarter of £1 million of your money to try to cover up, don't miss

when . when. >> good morning. at 10:00 on wednesday, the 30th of january. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner the bashir cover up. >> you bet. new documents show the journalist bashir blamed his non—white status at the bbc for the over his landmark the scandal over his landmark princess interview . the princess diana interview. the broadcaster says any suggestion they acted in bad faith simply wrong. >> and brexit britain, four years on on this day in 2020, we left the european union. what do

we have to show for it? and financially, do you feel better or worse off? >> pharmacy reforms will you trust your chemist to treat you for a sore throat? insect bites? shingles? well, now you can. and a new plan to alleviate pressures on gps . and is this pressures on gps. and is this a powerful police presence? >> police in leicestershire are bringing back the victorian blue lamps to make the stations more welcoming. are they focusing on the right thing here? >> stop the boats together. the uk and france have agreed to go even further and faster, apparently in tackling illegal migration across the channel are the french pulling their weight or are they pulling their wool? the wool over our . eyes the wool over our. eyes and of course we're going to carry on talking about the martin bashir cover up. my interview with andy webb, the journalist who's got 3000 documents out of the bbc which shows the scale of it, and

nicola sturgeon's at the covid inquiry today, is keeping an eye on you. >> i'm keeping an eye on you. >> i'm keeping an eye on you. >> scottish first minister, >> i'm keeping an eye on you. >> managed;h first minister, >> i'm keeping an eye on you. >> managed to zirst minister, >> i'm keeping an eye on you. >> managed to delete nister, >> i'm keeping an eye on you. >> managed to delete every who managed to delete every single whatsapp exchange with her ministerial colleagues dunng her ministerial colleagues during the woman, who during covid. the woman, who said was said boris johnson was a disgrace to national office. um, pot black madam. pot kettle black madam. >> let us know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email a lot more to come? also this morning first though, your very latest news sam . bev and andrew. >> thank you very much and good morning from the gb newsroom. the headlines just after 10:00, the government is expected to pubush the government is expected to publish the details of its deal with the dup later, which sets the stage for the return of power sharing in northern ireland. the agreement will include legislation to strengthen trading arrangements between northern ireland and the rest of the uk. the dup had withdrawn from power sharing almost two years ago in protest against arrangements brought in after brexit. the new deal,

though, will see a package of more than £3 billion to support pubuc more than £3 billion to support public services in northern ireland. the home secretary has pledged to build closer ties with france to tackle illegal channel crossings as these are live pictures of james cleverly at the uh , currently answering at the uh, currently answering questions from the home office affairs committee about the uk's rwanda policy that follows his meeting with the interior ministry in paris yesterday after more than 1000 migrants arrived in the uk so far this month on small boats. the renewed efforts to prevent channel crossings could see more police officers posted to the coast and more funding for equipment and facilities. also given, mr cleverly says illegal migration figures are comparable to last year. but he has admitted they're not where he wants them to be. >> there's two coastal countries and as near neighbours and commercial partners , uh, our

commercial partners, uh, our work together in breaking the business model of these people smugglers is absolutely key . we smugglers is absolutely key. we have seen last year a 36% reduction in small boat crossings across the channel that's 16,000 people fewer , that's 16,000 people fewer, making it across the channel and we know that the french authorities , working in close authorities, working in close cooperation with the uk , have cooperation with the uk, have prevented 26,000 attempted crossings . crossings. >> nicola sturgeon has arrived at the covid 19 inquiry in edinburgh ahead of giving evidence amid her ongoing scrutiny that she's facing around the deletion of her whatsapp messages. as live pictures here of former pictures here of the former first minister in scotland at that covid 19 inquiry, says that covid 19 inquiry, she says she did act in line with scottish government policy by not saving messages on her devices. however she has managed to retrieve some copies and submit them to the inquiry. miss sturgeon may also face questions today about calling boris johnson a clown in those

messages . elsewhere bosses from messages. elsewhere bosses from tata steel are being questioned by mps at the moment over their port talbot plans . earlier by mps at the moment over their port talbot plans. earlier this month, the steel giant announced it will close its blast furnaces in south wales, impacting some 2800 jobs. live pictures here. for those watching on tv of that picket line in westminster , picket line in westminster, where the company says it's moving to a more environmentally friendly production of steel, which will require fewer workers. however the committee of mps say they want to understand and how that decision will impact the steel industry in wales, impact the local community and affect the welsh economy . we're being warned that economy. we're being warned that pnces economy. we're being warned that prices in the shops could rise again as new post—brexit checks on imported food and drink come into force. meat, cheese and fresh flowers arriving in dover from the continent will require an export health, health certificate to be signed off by european vet or plant inspectors . the added red tape is expected

to add more than £300 million to trading, an expense that's be passed on to the consumer. fears have also been raised that it could disrupt supply chains . an could disrupt supply chains. an mps are warning the new border process could present serious biosecurity risks. the government has pledged there will be no interruption to food on supermarket shelves, though , on supermarket shelves, though, as a result of those new rules , as a result of those new rules, patients in england can now get treatment for common health issues at their pharmacies. that's without having to see a gp. the seven conditions include sinner , sinusitis, infected sinner, sinusitis, infected insect bites and shingles . nhs insect bites and shingles. nhs england say more than 90% of community pharmacies across the country have agreed to offer the scheme. it could free up more than 10 million gp appointments each year. health minister andrea leadsom told gb news that patients will have much better access to treatment . access to treatment. >> you're not obliged to go to a community pharmacist. this is

something that patients , many something that patients, many patients will welcome , and patients will welcome, and particularly if you want to get seen, same day, you'll be able to walk into a high street pharmacist. it allows us hugely better flexibility and also greater access for those common conditions . as in other news, conditions. as in other news, new documents show that former journalist martin bashir blamed his non—white status for the scandal over his princess diana interview. >> 3000 emails have been released after a judge ordered the bbc to hand over details relating to the infamous interview with the princess of wales. it showed bashir also claimed securing the interview while being the child of immigrants, with working class roots led to professional jealousy among his colleagues at the bbc. in 2020, a documentary revealed that he had faked bank statements in order to gain access to diana . the bbc, access to diana. the bbc, though, say that any suggestion that it had acted in a bad faith was simply wrong . new offences

was simply wrong. new offences have been introduced for cyberflashing and other online abuse. the new laws will see those who share sexual deep fake images and flash strangers onune images and flash strangers online prosecuted and jailed for up to five years. the legislation also covers sending death threats , sharing revenge, death threats, sharing revenge, revenge porn and sending epilepsy, triggering images that could harm people . and for the could harm people. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. now, though, it's back to andrew and . bev. >> very good morning . >> very good morning. >> very good morning. >> i'm looking at your emails here. thank you for getting in touch. this is because it's brexit anniversary . de mel brexit anniversary. marie de mel says i voted brexit, but i regret it. i don't think our country would be in the mess it is in now. we wouldn't have had this mass migration of people from and values so from cultures and values so different to own. breaks different to our own. it breaks my heart. fast our my heart. we're fast losing our identity, our traditions and our

laws and bob despite laws and bob says despite brexit, i still like we're brexit, i still feel like we're pretty much in the eu without benefiting pretty much in the eu without berifiting pretty much in the eu without beri feel] politicians >> i feel our politicians betrayed us. >> said i voted brexit, >> tina has said i voted brexit, i would definitely brexit i would definitely vote brexit again. i hope again. this time i would hope the would actually the government would actually give promised. >> i love sharon says >> i love what sharon says because we heard a lot of this. i voted for brexit. i'm not stupid, naive stupid, uneducated, naive or a racist that the racist because that was the distinct impression from of distinct impression from some of those snooty remainers. but you see, was a snooty remainer. see, i was a snooty remainer. >> i was that person, but i didn't know what i was talking about and i say that with all honesty now i was wrong to vote remain because you know what simplistic only in a very shallow way. i thought we'll probably be better in that club. it's always better, isn't it? to be club. and in be part of a club. and then in the four i've the last four years i've thought, no, i am. and when the eu rolled out their digital id system the then i was system across the eu, then i was like, thank goodness i'm like, well, thank goodness i'm not that because that's not not in that because that's not what i want to be. i don't want to be part of that corrupt cabal anymore. i just don't. i've seen the light. i think we should be

taking control of our own country. not we're country. i'm not sure we're doing as as we could be, doing it as well as we could be, but i think it's very but i also think it's very difficult because we've difficult to say because we've had those lockdowns, etc. had all those lockdowns, etc. which of which changed a huge amount of our economic our financial and economic horizons. right >> let's go back to this extraordinary about the extraordinary story about the bbc and the cover up behind the into not just into that, frankly, not just shocked the world. it changed the royal family the face of the royal family because was because princess diana was neven never, ever going to trust the royal having been royal family again. having been told by bashir m15 was spying on her. faced death. they her. she faced death. they were trying and even trying to bump her off and even when he even showed documents which showed that prince charles had abortion for had paid for an abortion for tiggv had paid for an abortion for tiggy legge—bourke, who was the nanny to william, she recently won a court case about that, didn't she? >> she did as well. >> she did as well. >> absolute scandal. >> absolute scandal. >> so let's talk now to former bbc executive and presenter roger of the roger bolton, friend of the show. good to see you show. roger, good to see you again. um, so these documents , again. um, so these documents, it's landed in andy webb's, uh, email last night late on. email inbox last night late on. he's been very quickly going through them even so far , it through them even so far, it seems the revelations are pretty

significant. but why would they need to be so redacted? roger because the bbc have said they aren't relevant. there's very it's nothing do with it. it's nothing to do with it. well, have you redacted well, why have you redacted so much well, why have you redacted so mu right. would you like every >> right. would you like every email sent in your email that you've sent in your present to be collected and present job to be collected and published? think yes , yes. published? i think yes, yes. >> no. hang on. >> no. hang on. >> no. hang on. >> no. let me answer that question. >> i very much maintain that you should commit any thing on should never commit any thing on email, that you wouldn't be happy to see, and happy for the public to see, and people the bbc should people in the bbc should know that. basic level that. and the very basic level of communication, well, that's a very sensible approach , but very sensible approach, but unfortunately most people don't do it. >> and there are genuine privacy concerns. it's a question of trust. you trust bbc trust. should you trust the bbc that has redacted some things that it has redacted some things 7 that it has redacted some things ? um, not to, as part of a cover up? that's the issue. i don't think surprising that think it's surprising that they've great deal , they've covered a great deal, because if you're going to start round table round a cabinet table or whatever, going whatever, if you're going to have and exchange have a free and frank exchange of views between people, you mustn't think that it's going to be reported in the press the next day in detail. or government or whatever. you've next day in detail. or gov t0|ment or whatever. you've next day in detail. or gov to allow or whatever. you've next day in detail. or gov to allow a whatever. you've next day in detail. or gov to allow a little ever. you've next day in detail. or gov to allow a little space 'ou've next day in detail. or gov to allow a little space to �*ve got to allow a little space to where begin to talk about their

private supposing, private problems. supposing, for example, divorce example, i'd have a divorce and troubles and that was in an email. well, you would take that out, wouldn't you? and there are lots of personal details. so the principle of redacting is sensible. you sensible. the question is do you trust organisation only to trust the organisation only to redact those things? roger are massive privacy . massive privacy. >> what creates suspicion? >> what creates suspicion? >> i think for most people, watching and listening is the bbc say these all of this stuff is irrelevant. so why did they fight tooth and nail to keep this information covered up at a cost ? and andy marsh says he cost? and andy marsh says he thinks probably a quarter of £1 million has been spent on lawyers fees to try and keep these emails and documents covered up. there of course, they're relevant because they show that the bbc was trying to cover up the scale of the dupuchy cover up the scale of the duplicity of martin bashir. >> well, you say that having, of course not read them, andrew. so you assert this as a fact and it's your it may be well founded, but it's your suspicion . ian. >> no, no. you just well, as a fact, which isn't a fact.

>> well, we know what we know what lord dyson said. i know lord dyson was talking about the penod lord dyson was talking about the period about two, about 25 years ago, after the interview, which took place almost ago. took place almost 28 years ago. and dyson was correctly and lord dyson was correctly excoriating about the cover up. that did indeed happen in the bbc, which was a disgrace . but bbc, which was a disgrace. but thatis bbc, which was a disgrace. but that is almost 25 years ago. the question is, is the bbc now covering up? i mean, i congratulate andy webb on his pursuit of this story. well worth doing, but i don't think i don't think we've got evidence of a contemporary or a last two years cover up. there might be l, years cover up. there might be i, you know, who knows. i don't think there will be. but we haven't got evidence of that. what do know is there was what we do know is there was a disgraceful cover up in the past. >> well, why would they not just simply release some of these documents? would have simply release some of these do have nts? would have simply release some of these do have nts? so would have simply release some of these do have nts? so hard, have simply release some of these do have nts? so hard, long have simply release some of these do have nts? so hard, long and'e to have fought so hard, long and hard, involving vast amounts of pubuc hard, involving vast amounts of public money? roger if there was no attempt perhaps, to gloss over some of the facts, was well after lord hall left, who we know was head of director of

news in 96, when there was the cover up. when, when, when tim davie took over, did he try and clean it up ? clean it up? >> tim davie did not take over until about, what, 18 years after tony hall departed ? um, after tony hall departed? um, that job. so i don't think tim davie i trust tim davie . that's davie i trust tim davie. that's first of all, i don't think he'd be part of a cover up. and i think the moment this broke, he got lord dyson in. lord dyson saw all of the emails, all of the documents and produced this report, excoriate report, which is an excoriate thing. it's not impossible that there it's not impossible that there it's not impossible that there are emails held back which would be show a contemporary cover up. but i don't think it's likely . uh, obviously it's likely. uh, obviously it's a possible pity. i don't think it's likely. what we can agree was it was disgraced. it happened. but by the way, on the latest bit of news, when martin bashir excuses what he did on the basis as it were, there the basis of as it were, there were professional jealousy. those people course those who the people course that's professional jealousy. there always is. and i was editor of panorama and it was pretty tough when i did it. of

course it is. but hold on, that doesn't what martin did doesn't excuse what martin did or criticisms or the genuine criticisms of his forging documents, lying to the princess and behaving in an utterly disgraceful way. >> what? did you have any idea what the bbc's relationship with bashir is? was he actually fired for this? is he does he get a pension? will he get a pension for the bbc? do you have any idea what that relationship has been left like? >> i don't what i do know >> i don't know what i do know is that he had very serious is that he had a very serious people talk about, you know, how come sending emails to come he can be sending emails to everybody can't give , everybody and yet he can't give, you know, testimony? i think the truth is he had a very serious heart operation, very serious heart operation, a very serious and whether such a person is up to legal scrutiny for a former judge , i don't know , he says he judge, i don't know, he says he isn't. it's entirely possible . isn't. it's entirely possible. it's also possible. however, he could at home give a great deal of information about what he's done, which he has chosen, not to do. so both things may be true. he's not fit enough to go in front of a judge. he could have cooperated a lot more and

he's clearly delusional if he doesn't recognise that what he did entirely wrong and did was entirely wrong and extraordinarily damaging, and changed of history. changed the course of history. >> roger, let's really changed the whole the course of history and the relationship that that woman went on to have with her sons, with her ex husband , with sons, with her ex husband, with the royal family, with her future partners. do you not agree ? agree? >> no, i disagree entirely. agree? >> no, i disagree entirely . and >> no, i disagree entirely. and i'll tell you why that the marriage had also already between diana and charles had broken down and retrievable. she was determined to get her story out. she recorded sound tapes and gave them to, uh , andrew and gave them to, uh, andrew morton. she went and talked to people like max hastings , who's people like max hastings, who's gone on the record. she wanted to give the interview. so there's no question she would have given an interview. there's a question, is a legitimate question, which is if she hadn't been fed the lies by bashir, would she have gone quite as far as she went? >> quite. but she would have given the interview. >> and the second thing where i do disagree, i think with andy

webb and i do disagree with earl spencer and so on, um, is this idea that you can trace a direct line between that interview and her death in paris? um, i don't think you can. that's far, too far . and you can't, but you can far. and you can't, but you can trace it. >> the princess was vulnerable. mentally vulnerable . we know mentally vulnerable. we know that. and her paranoia about people spying on her was fed by the lies peddled to her by the bbc's panorama presenter martin bashir. without a doubt , without bashir. without a doubt, without a doubt and i would say one other thing though we all ought to think about it, she was 19 when she got married, so society wanted a virgin bride . wanted a virgin bride. >> um, you know , they didn't >> um, you know, they didn't worry about bonkers , didn't worry about bonkers, didn't worry about bonkers, didn't worry about bonkers, didn't worry about charles having previous affairs. we're all complicit in creating a fairy tale. fairy tales aren't true . tale. fairy tales aren't true. >> they just finally , roger. the >> they just finally, roger. the reason this interview made such reverberations around the world was because it was conducted on the bbc. people trusted the bbc. it was a worldwide famous

institution . this is shattered, institution. this is shattered, hasn't it? a lot of people's faith in the bbc? >> uh, it's over 25 years ago, so let's get this. there is a campaign by against the bbc, by the telegraph and the mail trust in the bbc is still extraordinarily high, but it was extremely damaging. it was a disgraceful episode. the cover up was disgraceful, but it was 20 years. the cover up was 20, 25 years ago and i do not believe, i hope i'm not being naive. i do not believe that this director general would be part of a corrupt today. this director general would be part of a corrupt today . but part of a corrupt today. but the crucial all of this crucial thing from all of this is don't let anybody mark their own homework. always have an external regulator. own homework. always have an external regulator . we've external regulator. we've learned that time and time again. no institution can be trusted like roman trusted because like the roman catholic church of catholic church, that church of england over sexual abuse as the instinct to protect the institution and you persuade yourself it's the right thing to do. fatal. get an do. um, it's fatal. get an external regulator, be open, answer these freedom of information. and if it happens that they have deliberately held

back this time, anything of vital and real importance that will absolutely shatter the reputation of the bbc? i don't think they have. i hope they haven't. >> okay. all right. >> okay. all right. >> roger, that's roger bowen. >> roger, that's roger bowen. >> great to see you. >> great to see you. >> course. and webb, >> great to see you. >> the rse. and webb, >> great to see you. >> the expertd webb, >> great to see you. >> the expert . webb, >> great to see you. >> the expert . he's webb, >> great to see you. >> the expert . he's ploughing who's the expert. he's ploughing through 10,000 documents through three 10,000 documents more apparently the more words apparently in the documents 10,000 words than documents than 10,000 words than war peace . so but of course, war and peace. so but of course, a lot of it is redacted. >> but imagine it's talking of war and peace. so we don't go to war. the statement war. let's read the statement from the bbc. i love that we love this opening line throughout this process , we've throughout this process, we've taken our responsibility to comply directions comply with the directions of the extremely the tribunal extremely seriously. therefore, we've today released approximately 3000 documents, some 10,000 pages, mr webb . this latest pages, to mr webb. this latest disclosure includes many hundreds of pages of duplicates and material that was not related to the panorama, but related to the 95 panorama, but was nevertheless caught by the electronic . it's been electronic searches. it's been four years. >> that's yeah, that's it, that's it, that's it, i think. well, we'll see. but i trust in the bbc. why would you spend £4

million trying to stop these documents being released? if you're not worried there is a more cover up , you're not worried there is a more cover up, i think. >> i think roger is a bit naive about the trust in the bbc. i used to defend the bbc and i still defend their drama output. i amazing, they still defend their drama output. i to amazing, they still defend their drama output. i to everybody. g, they still defend their drama output. i to everybody. from they still defend their drama output. i to everybody. from march lied to everybody. from march 22nd 2000, every single day for the last years. i have my the last few years. so i have my eyes awakened and i can't watch bbc anymore. why would bbc news anymore. but why would you got news you when you've got gb news exactly since we exactly now, four years since we finally hurrah for me anyway, left the eu, are we better left the eu, so are we better off financially after brexit? joining us in the liam joining us in the studio liam halligan, economics halligan, our economics and business can you us business editor, can you give us the definitive answer to that question? liam, has brexit made us richer poorer? us richer or poorer? >> definitive answer. what is richness is richness. >> what is richness is richness. sovereignty, self determination is richness. pounds and pence is fichness is richness. pounds and pence is richness a feeling that you can get rid of the people who make decisions over you from the ballot box. you don't have to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats in a foreign capital. look it's complicated. that's all i'll say

. and i'm going to show you some graphs and tables here very, very briefly . we can talk about very briefly. we can talk about them, but i'm aware that even them, but i'm aware that even the process of putting, you know , data from this national statistics up on the screen will really annoy some people . there really annoy some people. there are lots of people who just haven't accepted that we've left the union . and as the european union. and as scarlett i thought scarlett mccgwire, i thought brilliantly earlier, brilliantly explained earlier, the pollster here, um, the young pollster here, um, there are people who were for brexit who feel that the government hasn't properly implemented brexit. so everybody's kind of cheesed off. it's weird sort of halfway it's a weird sort of halfway house we're in. but what house that we're in. but what i'm do now just give i'm going to do now is just give you some information about growth investing and growth and investing and unemployment and so on. i've got some graphics and i'll bring gb news radio listeners along for the ride. so just give me a little bit little moment here. so let's have a look at gdp growth. and you'll see there this is this is growth in the economy. all goods and services this is this is growth in the ecithe ny. all goods and services this is this is growth in the ecithe economy.ods and services this is this is growth in the ecithe economy. sinceid services this is this is growth in the ecithe economy. since 2016 vices this is this is growth in the ecithe economy. since 2016 to es in the economy. since 2016 to 2022. the last um year for which

figures are available . and it's figures are available. and it's the cumulative growth all the growth added up. and you'll see italy on the left there. they've grown at about 6. you'll see that we've got um, uh, france is 8, germany 8, uk a little bit more. around 9. spain just over 10. and the mighty us getting on for 14% with their much, much cheaper energy. so it's not true to say that since we voted in the referendum, that growth has lagged behind in the uk. we're roughly middle of the pack because then you would expect the eu countries to have shot ahead and we would have been languishing. and for instance, we are in technical we are not in technical recession at moment the recession at the moment and the eu's economy , germany, eu's largest economy, germany, is much in a recession at is very much in a recession at the moment. so it's just not true to say that it's been an economic disaster at all. let's go on. let's have a look at a trade. do you remember there was a certain notorious campaign honour for remain, who said on bbc question time, our trade with europe will go to absolutely zero, as if . and some

absolutely zero, as if. and some people believe that that was mad and that hasn't happened has it? look, trade has been made harder, particularly if you're a small right. has small firm. right. it has been made i accept that. but made harder. i accept that. but trade exports eu are trade are exports to the eu are actually a record . high now actually a record. high now 2019, the year before the withdrawal agreement . £298 withdrawal agreement. £298 billion of exports from the uk to the eu 2022, 340 billion. now some of that increase is because of inflation. that 14% rise. but in volume terms two are exports to the eu are at record highs. just to give a little caveat, a lot of the reason our exports to the eu have gone up in 2022, so much is that we're importing a lot of liquefied natural gas from the us, which is very valuable . we've got the valuable. we've got the facilities, the docking stations, the harbours to do that. stations, the harbours to do that . we then re—export some of that. we then re—export some of that. we then re—export some of that to the eu. so those figures are, you know, people will be screaming at the tv who don't like brexit. i'm being as even

handed as i can possibly be. i've given you the caveat as to why just the data as to why exports, what's foreign investment about liam. so there's this concept in economics called foreign direct investment. it's when, say , tata investment. it's when, say, tata investment. it's when, say, tata invest in a new steel plant , investment. it's when, say, tata invest in a new steel plant, bmw come in the uk has been a magnet for foreign direct investment and that hasn't changed since brexit. despite a lot of people saying that there would be no foreign direct investment between 2009 and 2015, the year before the referendum. our before the referendum. um, our foreign investment into foreign direct investment into the 1.6% equivalent of the uk was 1.6% equivalent of gdp , so that's pretty chunky. gdp, so that's pretty chunky. but since 2016, it's been 3.1% of gdp. so we've actually attracted a lot of almost doubled in terms of if you measure it in terms of percentage of gdp. think about the investments we've had here in the uk from the car companies, many of whom said they wouldn't invest if we left they wouldn't invest if we left the european union. well, some of them suggested they'd leave, but have invested , they but they have invested, they have invested. >> run time . liam. >> we've run out of time. liam. okay. oh, just okay. well, more

questions anyway, right? we have run out of time. thank you so much. i think the conclusion being actually, on the whole, that we're pretty well that we're doing pretty well from i'm it from brexit, but i'm not sure it feels in people's from brexit, but i'm not sure it feels does in people's from brexit, but i'm not sure it feels does it] people's from brexit, but i'm not sure it feels does it. right..e's from brexit, but i'm not sure it feels does it. right. we've pockets does it. right. we've got sorry. still to got to move on. sorry. still to come sturgeon faces her come nicola sturgeon faces her biggest interrogation about come nicola sturgeon faces her bigghandling'ogation about come nicola sturgeon faces her bigghandling ofation about come nicola sturgeon faces her bigghandling of scotland'sbout her handling of scotland's pandemic, especially the pandemic, especially around the deletion her whatsapp deletion of her whatsapp messages and her texts . it's messages and her texts. it's happening right now, she . she's happening right now, she. she's on the ropes. we will keep you up to date. this

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news. 1028 year with gb news a britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner now coming up, we're going to be discussing martin bashir's outrageous claim that the backlash interview the backlash from his interview with down to with princess diana was down to racism within the bbc, which is rubbish, of course, but first, are you as old as me and do you remember this . remember this. >> there should have been some music about that. that was the good old days of policing, when jack, when it was jack warner from dixon of green, the from dixon of dock green, the blue light was the definitive symbol of the police. >> that's right. if you're listening we're listening on the radio, we're looking fashion looking at the old fashion victorian lamp on a brick wall outside your police officer welcoming you in. >> yeah , well, so the good old >> yeah, well, so the good old days of policing. well, one positive move. some argue from the police in leicester. positive move. some argue from the police in leicester . they're the police in leicester. they're bringing back the blue light. so joining us now is the police and

crime commissioner for leicestershire rupert matthew who's behind the scheme. rupert. um do you remember you. i'm not i'm not going to say you look old because i don't want old enough because i don't want to be rude. you remember, to be rude. but do you remember, dixon dock jack warner to be rude. but do you remember, dixon evening jack warner to be rude. but do you remember, dixon evening all jack warner to be rude. but do you remember, dixon evening all under: warner saying evening all under the blue light? >> i can remember my parents watching it. um, but i think i was playing with my toy cars on the at the time. the form at the time. >> what's . what's the logic, >> so what's. what's the logic, then? rupert behind restoring these very iconic lamps to police stations is. >> okay. well he's part of a programme. we're doing so they're the police stations which are open 24 seven. they've got a front desk and everything. um, but a lot of communities, particularly in the smaller market , don't have that. particularly in the smaller marbut , don't have that. particularly in the smaller marbut they , don't have that. particularly in the smaller marbut they do ion't have that. particularly in the smaller marbut they do have have that. particularly in the smaller marbut they do have offices at. uh, but they do have offices where the police go to do their paperwork. and so on. uh, so we started in uppingham. that's where they've got a police office. but the building also includes , uh, suitable for includes, uh, obe suitable for interviews and for people to meet the police. so what we did was we altered it slightly. so that people can make an

appointment to go and see the police. it isn't a walk in facility, but people can go and make an appointment and so on. so we thought, well, we need to be able that this be able to mark that this building has now police building has now got a police office, open to the office, which is open to the pubuc office, which is open to the public by appointment. we public by appointment. and we thought, got to put thought, well, we've got to put a sign outside anyway. we might as well it one of these as well make it one of these great victorian style blue lamps . uh, because everybody associates that with the police, they're visible a long way off. everyone knows what they mean , everyone knows what they mean, and really and it's been going down really well . well. >> are you not worried that someone's going to come along with a big rock and smash those beautiful lamps? >> they haven't so >> uh, well, they haven't so far. we've got blue far. uh, so we've got blue lamps, like i say, up outside the police station. sort of got a front desk. they've been there for years . uh, and we've had no for years. uh, and we've had no trouble with them . um, these are trouble with them. um, these are going up at the offices where you can go by appointment. um, so . far, everything's been okay. so. far, everything's been okay. so i'm going to touch my wooden desk, touch wood, uh, is going

to be okay. so. no, i mean, we haven't had any trouble so far. i don't see why we should. >> rupert, it's interesting because obviously see the because you obviously see the importance station. importance of a police station. people a police people like to go to a police station. in my they station. in my view, they think it's visibility. i think it's reassuring in, in, in london, where we are, they're being closed down all over the place. and i think that's very you're reversing the trend . reversing the trend. >> that's right . well i mean, it >> that's right. well i mean, it . oh i think he's frozen . . oh i think he's frozen. >> oh what a shame. what a shame that. let's see if we can get in there. >> i think it's fascinating this because, um, i think you should have a police station in the community. >> me too. me too. but everything now. send me a everything is now. send me a text or apply online in text message or apply online in the system never works. and maybe. maybe we are a bit old fashioned wanting a human being to with. but particularly, to deal with. but particularly, i think if you've been a victim of crime, it's nice a of crime, it's nice to see a human to about human being and to talk about what happened to you. human being and to talk about whtand happened to you. human being and to talk about whtand the happened to you. human being and to talk about whtand the pointhappened to you. human being and to talk about whtand the point aboutied to you. human being and to talk about whtand the point about the to you. human being and to talk about whtand the point about the dixon. >> and the point about the dixon of dock green thing. that was the people trusted the the day when people trusted the police implicitly. jack police implicitly. yeah. jack warner police

warner was the old police sergeant, evening and sergeant, and he. evening or and he moral story at he told a little moral story at the program and you the end of the program and you did the police. and did respect the police. and that's trying to do that's what they're trying to do in think good in leicester. and i think good luck to them. yeah, i know you can be cynical. be can be cynical. you could be cynical saying, what cynical saying, come on, what we really want is more bobbies on the well, are, but the beat. well, we are, but actually good to them both, actually good luck to them both, can't you. >> right. still to come nicola sturgeon biggest sturgeon faces her biggest interrogation sturgeon faces her biggest interrogat of t sturgeon faces her biggest interrogatof scotland's pandemic. sturgeon faces her biggest in is'rogatof scotland's pandemic. sturgeon faces her biggest inis happeningitland's pandemic. sturgeon faces her biggest inis happening right's pandemic. sturgeon faces her biggest inis happening right now ndemic. sturgeon faces her biggest inis happening right now and nic. it is happening right now and remember it came out those remember it came out of those whatsapp messages that boris johnson, and co johnson, matt hancock and co were looking to nicola were looking to what nicola sturgeon did, particularly in relation schools and then relation to schools and then deciding here in england deciding policy here in england based on what she was doing . so based on what she was doing. so let's hope she was right. now it's for your news it's time for your news headunes it's time for your news headlines with sam . headlines with sam. >> bev and . andrew thank you >> bev and. andrew thank you very much. it's just gone 10:30. the headlines this hour. the government is expected to pubush government is expected to publish details later of its deal with the dup. the party withdrew from power sharing in northern ireland almost two years was in protest

years ago. that was in protest against arrangements brought in after brexit. the new arrangement will also include legislation to strengthen trading arrangements with the rest of the uk , and give rest of the uk, and give a package of more than £3 billion to northern ireland to support its struggling public services bosses. from tata steel are currently being questioned by mps in westminster over their port talbot plans. earlier this month, the steel giant announced it will close its blast furnaces in south wales, impacting 2800 jobs. the company says it's moving to a more environmentally friendly production of steel, which requires fewer workers . which requires fewer workers. however, the committee of mps say they want to understand how that decision will impact the steel industry in wales. impact the local community the the local community and the welsh economy . the home welsh economy. the home secretary has pledged to build closer ties with france to tackle illegal channel crossings. james cleverly met the french interior minister in paris after more than 1000

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on gb news, with andrew pearson bev turner. >> now we are joined by former labour mp stephen pound and broadcaster mike parry the broadcaster mike parry in the studio. gentlemen. studio. good morning gentlemen. right. let's talk about this story. seen story. you might have seen this this was a volunteer this week. it was a volunteer police who police officer who told a christian that was christian singer that she was forbidden from singing gospel songs outside of church grounds . songs outside of church grounds. the woman who was singing took the video , and then the police the video, and then the police officer police officer volunteered. police service took tongue out to service took a tongue out to have service took a tongue out to havyou're to do anywhere i >> -- >> no, miss, you're not allowed to sing your church songs outside of church grounds by the way. >> you're not allowed to sing church songs outside or church songs , or you're not allowed to. songs, or you're not allowed to. >> that's fine . >> that's fine. >> that's fine. >> you're not allowed. >> you're not allowed. >> she just said you're not allowed to sing church songs outside church. outside of church. >> our church, outside of church grounds. unless have grounds. unless you have a authorised church to do authorised by the church to do these kind of songs. >> she's not saying anything anymore. >> are saying that you don't >> are you saying that you don't care about the human rights act? you're lost. >> juvenile. >> juvenile. >> juvenile. >> juvenile . now, the thing is, >> juvenile. now, the thing is, the police officer was actually right. have right. scotland yard have responded unlicensed responded and said unlicensed busking ongoing issue in

busking is an ongoing issue in westminster and during the interaction, the officer and her colleagues explained the busking legislation. a number of times. they that breach they clarified that the breach was busking itself was due to the busking itself rather do with rather than anything to do with the being sung. the songs that were being sung. the was mistaken in the officer was mistaken in saying that church songs cannot be sung outside church be sung outside of church grounds. for the grounds. we're sorry for the offence caused and will take the learning the gospel learning forward. the gospel singer well, she was on jacob rees—mogg yesterday . rees—mogg yesterday. >> i mean, it was it was quite humiliating. um, i never expected to be true . gutted like expected to be true. gutted like that especially. she said. i'm not allowed to sing church songs outside of church. it was just quite shocking for me. i'm not busking. i'm sharing the gospel. so um, when she came up to me and you know , uh, you're and you know, uh, you're busking, you're not allowed to, um, i'm sharing gospel, which is completely within my . human rights. >> it's not actually. >> it's not actually. >> no. and actually, she wasn't just singing. she had an organ in the street. well, it's a whole musical, a huge organ with speakers set up and a microphone

on oxford street. >> yes . go on. on oxford street. >> yes. go on. stephen, on oxford street. >> yes . go on. stephen, what do >> yes. go on. stephen, what do you make of this story? >> seeing a double entendre? no no, no, i mean, you can't trust a special like an old time copper as the old hall copper as the old music hall song say . song used to say. >> that certainly worries >> and that certainly worries me, of people used me, because a lot of people used to be accused when they joined the being sort of, to be accused when they joined the know, being sort of, to be accused when they joined the know, right.ieing sort of, you know, right. >> busybodies and neighbourhood narcs and everything. and so you get comes along narcs and everything. and so you ge'a comes along narcs and everything. and so you ge'a special comes along narcs and everything. and so you ge'a special and comes along narcs and everything. and so you ge'a special and suddenly; along narcs and everything. and so you ge'a special and suddenly theing as a special and suddenly the whole reputation, of course, you know, we all know know, the whole we all know penny lancaster, the whole reputation soar reputation of the specials soar sky along sky high. then this comes along and some. no, you and you've got some. no, you can't. her tongue can't. but sticking her tongue out, i think there's a point i have to say. harmony london was slightly going over the top with having wurlitzer hammond having a wurlitzer or a hammond organ the organ or whatever it was in the street, but on the other hand, somebody she wasn't, i think she makes wasn't makes a fair point. she wasn't busking. you busking. she was actually, you know, gospel, but know, singing the gospel, but she didn't have license. know, singing the gospel, but sheliidn't have license. know, singing the gospel, but shei mean,iave license. know, singing the gospel, but shei mean, ive license. know, singing the gospel, but shei mean, i mean, :ense. know, singing the gospel, but shei mean, i mean, yeah, but but >> i mean, i mean, yeah, but but it's part of oxford street. >> should oxford street. >> street's been dying >> oxford street's been dying over the years. a bit street over the years. a bit of street entertainment. i think that's absolutely fine. and supposing i was street was walking down oxford street

singing and i passed singing jerusalem and i passed that church, would a copper stop me and say, you can't sing christian songs ? i wonder christian songs? i wonder whether attitude would whether the same attitude would have been taken had the church not been a christian. let me guess where you're going with this. >> if it was outside a mosque, you think, well, i'm not saying a mosque, but another place of worship or even a jehovah's witness the of the >> would the attitude of the police officer being different? the police officer's not all bad because she was one in because she was at one time in this , the manager the this country, the manager of the black the sort black line in kilburn, the sort of that steve and no doubt of place that steve and no doubt county. yeah yeah, yeah. >> look, i think, i think it raises a really interesting i think it does it does raise a sort of interesting point really about whether we discriminate about whether we do discriminate against over against certain religions over others, the bottom line is others, but the bottom line is she was breaking the law. and we don't want people setting up every three feet. >> what was she breaking? the cop told us she was breaking . cop told us she was breaking. >> have a license to bust. >> have a license to bust. >> yeah, but the cop didn't say that to her. what the cop said was, you can't sing now. now, if the the of special the cop was the sort of special that described,

that steven described, a real busy body interfering in busy body and interfering in people's she should people's lives, then she should have law. she was have known the law. she was talking . think instead have known the law. she was ta|just . think instead have known the law. she was ta|just trying . think instead have known the law. she was ta|just trying . thidifficult,id of just trying to be difficult, she have great english. of just trying to be difficult, shethat have great english. of just trying to be difficult, shethat hathejreat english. >> that was the misunderstanding. let just misunderstanding. let me just say the british law. >> if they want to have you, they'll have you. yeah it could be order it be be public order act. it could be a nuisance. it could be, a public nuisance. it could be, you obstructing the you know, obstructing the highway. things. highway. it's 101 things. yeah. look, think the point is look, i think the point here is it's into a sort it's become subsumed into a sort of dispute. i'm of theological dispute. i'm perfectly with people perfectly happy with people wandering road singing wandering down the road singing christian songs. i think it was quite ukrainian quite next to the ukrainian cathedral, actually, at the back of problem at of bond street. no problem at all. you start getting all. but once you start getting all. but once you start getting all all the gear in all the kit and all the gear in there, then it becomes a nuisance get wasn't nuisance. >> so stephen, that would have entertained people in oxford street oxford street and that's what oxford street and that's what oxford street thought it street should be. i thought it was anybody can roll was a decent anybody can roll down a mighty down there with a, with a mighty organ start giving large. organ and start giving it large. why not? >> but the problem was because of she used. it did of the language she used. it did give oh, give the view that, oh, if you're you can't sing you're christian, you can't sing love. yeah. love. oh yeah. >> no, i have say this, >> no, no, i have to say this, this. think we actually move this. i think we actually move away from harmony london. just this. i think we actually move awayatom harmony london. just this. i think we actually move awayatom ireaction london. just this. i think we actually move awayatom ireaction lo the 1. just look at the reaction of the special. got it special. i mean, she got it wrong level. and to put

wrong at every level. and to put the cherry on the cake by sticking her tongue out at the end. get badge end. yeah. i'll get that badge off hope that the i off of her. i hope that the i mean, i'm sure. are they mean, i'm not sure. are they licensed the licensed through the commissioner ? commissioner? >> 5 >> whoever they are, paid a salary, aren't they. no, no they're not. >> are they police officers? >> are they police officers? >> and she's >> she's volunteer and she's originally . yeah. originally from bulgaria. yeah. so whether not she was, you so whether or not she was, you know, authoritarian in know, slightly authoritarian in law or something, i don't know. >> and i think that the issue for me is the fact that the her engush for me is the fact that the her english wasn't good enough to articulate law and that articulate what the law and that when when harmony london when the, when harmony london clearly attention seeking clearly an attention seeking stunt um has has carried this out when she said, well , i can out when she said, well, i can sing my song here at south side of church, the woman has taken it quite literally, and said, you outside you can't sing the song outside the which literally the church, which is literally true. doesn't mean you true. but it doesn't mean you can't in the country. true. but it doesn't mean you carit's in the country. true. but it doesn't mean you carit's a in the country. true. but it doesn't mean you carit's a communication.intry. so it's a communication. >> it's wrong at every level. i'm the i'm thinking about the specialises. get specialises. they might not get paid, into football paid, but they got into football matches free. matches for free. >> but, but also >> yeah, but, but but also doesn't say something about doesn't this say something about the the the selection process for the metropolitan. off because metropolitan. not off because shouldn't the first any shouldn't the first rule of any special be that you understand engushin special be that you understand

english in all its forms because you have to interact with the public. you can't. you can't, you can't be a doctor, you can't be a doctor. >> you can't be a nurse unless you have not just conversation. it's a proper scientific english. yeah, exactly. it's good written good enough for a written language to . test language to. test >> yeah, exactly. yeah, absolutely. >> should yeah. >> should be. yeah. >> right. >> right. >> deputy will roll. >> as deputy heads will roll. >> as deputy heads will roll. >> it's interesting as i >> and it's interesting as i find three, i would quite find you three, i would quite like nicola like to be watching nicola sturgeon covid inquiry sturgeon and the covid inquiry now i will digest now but i will i will digest that later. um, mike. yeah. she was at the height of the pandemic. she was extremely popular. yes with the scottish people. has fallen from people. how she has fallen from grace, not least because of these messages have these messages which have mysteriously gone missing. issue all of one. >> mike. yeah all of them have gone missing. she became popular because she was literally backstabbing the uk government. they were they were taking her into their confidence and saying, this is going to be the next move. and the next morning saying, this is going to be the next m0'announcing next morning saying, this is going to be the next m0'announcing aext morning saying, this is going to be the next m0'announcing aext morthat she was announcing a policy that had discussed in confidence had been discussed in confidence with other political leaders and trying to make out like she was

leading the fight. but what we didn't was what was to didn't know then was what was to come. and she was trying to be, you the pillar of the you know, the pillar of the establishment. we now know establishment. and we now know she many questions ask she has many questions to ask about different issues, about many different issues, including disappearance of including the disappearance of all her messages and the thing was in those days, because she was in those days, because she was so forthright and so upfront, people started forgetting that she was running a country that was falling to pieces. scotland was falling to pieces. scotland was falling to pieces , education rates going pieces, education rates going down on health matters going down. they couldn't even build ferries to get their people from one island to another. can i, can i have a word for in europe? yes. absolutely. worth. worth stood drug deaths in the. let me just thing in favour of just say one thing in favour of nicola . nicola sturgeon. >> of the reasons >> i think one of the reasons she because the she was popular is because the british at time british government at that time were running around like headless were headless chickens. they were locking us up, they were unlocking were telling unlocking us. they were telling us out, to help us to eat out, to help out. there consistency there was no consistency there then for the whole then actually gone for the whole pseudoscientific she pseudoscientific splurge. she represented alternative. she represented an alternative. she said, we're going to do this a slightly different way. and at the particular sweden were

slightly different way. and at the peiticular sweden were slightly different way. and at the peit totally sweden were slightly different way. and at the peit totally differentlyin were doing it totally differently and scotland was doing it differently. that why she's differently. that was why she's popular now, stephen. >> she more intensely. >> she did it more intensely. >> she did it more intensely. >> polar >> she did the complete polar opposite from what i know, it was different. >> the thing is, she's >> but the thing is, now she's left a mobile. dropped left a mobile. phones dropped into ness. um, yeah . into loch ness. um, yeah. >> funny you know what? >> funny that. you know what? what i really infuriating. >> funny that. you know what? wh.don't really infuriating. >> funny that. you know what? wh.don't knowlly infuriating. >> funny that. you know what? wh.don't know whetherating. >> funny that. you know what? wh.don't know whetheratingsaw we don't know whether you saw that case this week woman that case this week of the woman who texting whatsapping who was texting and whatsapping at of her at the wheel, and because of her action, truck driver died. action, the truck driver died. now, order to prosecute that now, in order to prosecute that woman, the authorities were able to called a deep to do what they called a deep dive into that woman's phone. yeah. so though had yeah. so even though she had deleted whatsapp, she'd deleted text messages. that is possible. yeah. not doing that yeah. why are we not doing that to nicola sturgeon? >> no idea. if you lose, >> i have no idea. if you lose, you're down the procurator you're down to the procurator fiscal. you're pretty sure that's everything's fiscal. you're pretty sure that'ssaved. everything's fiscal. you're pretty sure that'ssaved. because ithing's a been saved. because there's a cloud, there? and this been saved. because there's a cloud,system|ere? and this been saved. because there's a cloud,system |ere? arthey s been saved. because there's a cloud,systemiere? arthey can cloud system means they can recover anything so recover anything back. so if this case and they can't this is the case and they can't find they haven't just find them, they haven't just been have been been lost. they have been seriously moved somewhere . seriously moved somewhere. >> that is go to metal. >> that is go to metal. >> they'd have to be concealed. >> they'd have to be concealed. >> i think the procurator fiscal can actually issue a warrant to do precisely that. the do precisely that. that's the equivalent lord

equivalent of the lord chancellor. >> but it wasn't just the politicians, and was the politicians, and it was the civil they were all civil servants. they were all doing it. >> it was appointed by whom ? >> it was appointed by whom? >> it was appointed by whom? >> the last thing they did before went to bed was to before they went to bed was to delete that was the advice. >> oh yeah, that was the advice. liz, liz, liz lloyd, the chief of staff, said last thing of staff, said the last thing you at night is actually delete. >> yeah, it is really, really sinister. is. sinister. it is. >> didn't just call >> and she didn't just call bofis a >> and she didn't just call boris a clown. she boris johnson a clown. she called an effing clown. called him an effing clown. >> said >> yes, that's right, she said he that's okay. he was. but that's okay. >> office. well, >> grace. public office. well, i think diluting all your whatsapp messages a messages deliberately is a disgrace to public. >> the real disgrace is >> i think the real disgrace is that the deaths by drug that is the deaths by drug addiction. of addiction. it's the collapse of the ferries. it's all the other things got things that you've got absolutely falling tibet. >> country >> and you just let the country disintegrate. and steve, when you to do things you said she wanted to do things different, wanted get you said she wanted to do things differiintense.wanted get you said she wanted to do things differiintense.she:ed get you said she wanted to do things differiintense. she wanted at you said she wanted to do things differiintense. she wanted to be more intense. she wanted to be so different. she wanted to close border england close the border between england and scotland. close the border between england anci'mitland. close the border between england anci'm notid. close the border between england anci'm not saying i'm not saying >> i'm not saying i'm not saying she well, she did it differently. well, i'm it. it appeared i'm just saying it. it appeared to an alternate that time. to be an alternate at that time. you two alternatives laissez you had two alternatives laissez faire and them faire sweden and lock them down and, the door shut. >> scotland, science based sweden. >> yeah, she was effectively >> yeah, but she was effectively running indie and you'd be running an indie and you'd be

right wasn't she? right campaign, wasn't she? dufing right campaign, wasn't she? during during covid, during during and during covid, during covid, support for independence was because she was was creeping up because she was on every not anymore, on television every not anymore, doing a press conference every single day. >> long single day. one. one. >> one. >> absolutely. and looking like a free world and a leader of the free world and all that kind of stuff. you know what i mean? yeah >> and capitalism. there >> and capitalism. well, there was jacinda ardern and was her and jacinda ardern and there you know, there there was, you know, there seemed a group of seemed to be a whole group of young political capital young making political capital out public misery. out of the public misery. >> what jacinda ardern >> exactly what jacinda ardern did zealand. >> exactly what jacinda ardern did absolutely. land. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> worse, worse, worse. okay. net uk net migrations pushed uk population over 70,000,000 in 11 years earlier than expected. well, i think that's fine because we've got loads of space here. as we can see, all our roads are empty. we have plenty of housing to go around. you can get at your get an appointment at your gp, you can go to hospital, you can get classrooms in this get great classrooms in this country. >> w- w— >> what have you been smoking? >> what have you been smoking? >> trying to convince myself. >> stephen. yeah, awful. >> stephen. yeah, it's awful. >> stephen. yeah, it's awful. >> it, can >> you just can't write it, can you? >> e- you? >> actually vividly >> i can actually vividly remember one first days at remember one of my first days at primary school about the population that back. >> e’- e’— >> yeah. good lord. >> yeah. good lord. >> no, i know listen, i can

remember one of the nuns were saying to us, you know, the population of this country is 52 million people. yeah and that was the of was okay. that was the middle of the century. i appreciate the last century. i appreciate that, but but nuns never lie, you yes and we're you know. yes and now we're talking million. no. talking about 70 million. no. now, appreciate some now, i appreciate there is some space, it? because space, but where is it? because this is three manchesters. you know, i think one manchester is quite . quite enough. >> is. >> yeah. it is. >> okay, see your six >> okay, i'll see your six nottingham's your manchester. >> also how them are >> but also how many of them are going speaking english? going to be speaking english? well, them. going to be speaking english? weihow them. going to be speaking english? weihow many them. going to be speaking english? weihow many of them. going to be speaking english? weihow many of them in. going to be speaking english? weihow many of them will be >> how many of them will be special constables failing . special constables failing. >> what is this going to do to social. >> well, i think the social cohesion problem is going to get bigger bigger, bigger and bigger and bigger, massively so. >> nobody wants stir >> i mean, nobody wants to stir it you see in cities it up. and you see in cities like leicester there are race riots taking place between two races people who are not races of people who are not indigenous united kingdom indigenous to the united kingdom . and a lot more of that is going happen in the future going to happen in the future because tensions are running high. saw high. morning, don't >> we saw this morning, we don't know saw the clip earlier know if you saw the clip earlier when new labour candidate know if you saw the clip earlier wh

language. >> now i don't want to speak in urdu. >> yes, maybe it was urdu is that really right? no i mean, i don't know, going into a general election in britain. >> yeah. no, completely >> yeah. no, it's completely wrong. i mean, there's no argument that, but i'm argument about that, but i'm quite happy people 2 argument about that, but i'm qu3a happy people 2 argument about that, but i'm qu3 languages, people 2 argument about that, but i'm qu3 languages, people been 2 argument about that, but i'm qu3 languages, people been to? or 3 languages, and i've been to many, where people many, many meetings where people have irish have actually used irish words for, it's not for, you know, it's not a problem with that. problem problem with that. the problem is the dominant is if it becomes the dominant one in a particular area and social cohesion is the real issue see what's issue here. when you see what's happening can happening in bradford and we can we don't need to go it now, we don't need to go into it now, but all know the consequences but we all know the consequences of you an enclosed of when you have an enclosed community own community speaking its own language in many cases repressing women and entirely dominated by the old clan structure and the what they call consanguinity when they're marrying cousins. consanguinity when they're marrying cousins . yeah, that is marrying cousins. yeah, that is a real, real problem. >> and you can remember the first that jack straw, when he was, uh, i don't know if he was he refused to have a woman in his a in his surgery. she his a woman in his surgery. she wouldn't her off. and wouldn't take her mask off. and he into sorts of flak he got into all sorts of flak because said it was just he because he said it was just he could communicate could not communicate with. >> absolutely could not communicate with. >> isn't absolutely could not communicate with. >> isn't originalely right. isn't the original argument original argument argument the original argument put forward when tony blair

said, the said, you know, open up the doors and, you know, good for economic good labour economic growth, good for labour votes. to votes. well, they tried to disguise it as good for economic growth. look happened. growth. look what's happened. look was built. look how america was built. yeah, good yeah, well, it's not good for economic because is economic growth because there is no in this no economic growth in this country. more people country. and the more people that there's less that come in, there's less economic and it's economic growth. and it's causing economic problems. economic growth. and it's causof| economic problems. economic growth. and it's causof the economic problems. economic growth. and it's causof the housing mic problems. economic growth. and it's causof the housing shortage.ems. economic growth. and it's causof the housing shortage inis. part of the housing shortage in this country is because we have so many people who've come here from we haven't from other lands, and we haven't built enough houses to house them. might. built enough houses to house the but might. built enough houses to house the but when might. built enough houses to house the but when you ht. about >> but when you talk about economic go to economic growth, just go go to places, you know, like a chicken farms places where they're farms and places where they're picking fruit and vegetables. who's there? it's who's doing the work there? it's not british people. not indigenous british people. and do it, can we and if we won't do it, can we can really on, guys? can we really move on, guys? >> people, can we complain? >> we need to move on. we can't wait you back in the next wait to get you back in the next houn wait to get you back in the next hour. but we've still got to speak morning to speak this morning to nigel farage his views on whether farage with his views on whether brexit success or brexit has been a success or not and not, this and if not, why this is britain's newsroom on gb news. a brighter outlook with solar brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news.

sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> i'm alex deakin, this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news a very wild day across parts of northern scotland. gusty winds and some heavy rain as well. further south it's largely dry and cloudy thanks to high pressure, but this deepening and cloudy thanks to high pressofa, but this deepening and cloudy thanks to high pressof lowit this deepening and cloudy thanks to high pressof low pressure,epening and cloudy thanks to high pressof low pressure, named by area of low pressure, named by the weather service. the norwegian weather service. look the isobars really look at the isobars really squeezing together across squeezing together winds across the today , 70, maybe the far north today, 70, maybe 80 an hour, perhaps even 80 miles an hour, perhaps even 85 miles hour. but gusty 85 miles an hour. but gusty winds further south across northern northern northern england, northern ireland, central and southern scotland could reach 60 to possibly even 65 miles an hour as well. those kind of winds, likely some travel likely to cause some travel disruption flying debris likely to cause some travel disr|a tion flying debris likely to cause some travel disr|a band flying debris likely to cause some travel disr|a band of flying debris likely to cause some travel disr|a band of heavying debris likely to cause some travel disr|a band of heavy rainiebris likely to cause some travel disr|a band of heavy rain sinking and a band of heavy rain sinking south well . much of the south south as well. much of the south bar a of drizzle in the far bar a bit of drizzle in the far southwest will be just dry and cloudy and still quite mild here. winds pick up a here. the winds will pick up a little as the sinks little bit as the rain sinks southwards, so a spell of damp and blustery weather for a time through the evening over england and wales. the winds steadily easing over easing this evening over northern scotland, but still quite night with quite a windy night with plenty of in here. of showers coming in here. elsewhere dry and

elsewhere it'll turn dry and clear and temperatures will drop to around about 3 or 4 celsius, so some pockets of frost perhaps in in some rural spots onto thursday. generally a calmer day. quite windy in day. still quite windy in northern scotland plenty day. still quite windy in no showers :otland plenty day. still quite windy in no showers here. d plenty day. still quite windy in no showers here. certainly lenty day. still quite windy in no showers here. certainly early of showers here. certainly early on, but many will have a dry day on, but many will have a dry day on thursday. bright on thursday. reasonably bright as well, certainly across england wales. as well, certainly across england wales . we'll see england and wales. we'll see some hazy sunshine and then more wet and windy weather comes into the on. the northwest later on. temperatures average temperatures close to average getting today in the south. >> that warm feeling inside died from boxt boilers . sponsors of from boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> still to come , the journalist >> still to come, the journalist and filmmaker andy webb told this show that the bbc could have a criminal have committed a criminal offence its handling of offence in its handling of information to martin information relating to martin bashir's interview. princess diana man who uncovered diana he's the man who uncovered the 3000 emails the bbc, in my view, tried to cover

11 -- 11 am. on wednesday, the 31st of january. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> very good morning. so the bashir cover up. new documents show the journalist martin bashir blamed his non—white status at the bbc for the scandal over his princess diana interview earlier , we spoke to interview earlier, we spoke to journalist andy webb , who fought journalist andy webb, who fought the corporation for seven teen years, to see these emails to

unlawful conceal information . is unlawful conceal information. is a crime and the bbc has , as a crime and the bbc has, as i allege, committed an actual criminal offence . criminal offence. >> pandemic interrogation nicola sturgeon remember her? she was scottish first minister. she used to wear a halo, didn't she? she's facing her biggest test yet about her handling of scotland's pandemic. of scotland's pandemic. because of course, all her whatsapp messages she deleted . messages she deleted. >> and brexit britain, four years on, it was this day in 2020 that we officially left the european union. nigel farage is joining us next. >> and pharmacy reforms. do you trust your chemists enough to treat you for a sore throat, an insect bite or shingles while you can? now under new plan to take pressure gps and take the pressure off gps and losing the muslim vote, labour has begun polling british muslim voters over growing concerns about the damage done to their core voters by the row over the party's position on the middle .

east >> it's fascinating , isn't it, >> it's fascinating, isn't it, that politics over in the middle east could have such an impact here? >> we've already seen, what, about 10 or 12 labour front benchers resign from the front benchers resign from the front bench because keir starmer wouldn't support ceasefire in wouldn't support a ceasefire in gaza , because they want one now. gaza, because they want one now. and we've heard that independent muslim candidates standing against labour. so the tories have problem with reform have got a problem with reform on hands. could labour on their hands. could labour have problem. don't have a problem. because don't forget, used forget, before they used to assume 8070 odd assume at least 8070 odd percent, was the muslim vote. percent, it was the muslim vote. the muslim would vote labour. >> yeah, right. let us know your thoughts morning. thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbrvery com. thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbrverycom. news though, your very latest news with . with sam. >> bev and andrew thank you very much . and good morning from the much. and good morning from the gb news room . it'sjust gone gb news room. it's just gone 11:00 the headlines this hour. the home secretary says that the number asylum seekers that number of asylum seekers that could removed to rwanda under

could be removed to rwanda under rishi sunak's £240 million scheme could be quite low. it comes as james cleverly has pledged to build closer ties with france to tackle illegal channel crossings more than 1000 migrants have arrived in the uk so far this month on small, small boats. the renewed efforts to prevent channel crossings could see more police officers posted to the coast, and more funding for equipment and facilities. mr cleverly says that illegal migration figures are comparable to last year, but he's admitted they're not where he's admitted they're not where he wants them to be. >> there's two coastal countries and as near neighbours and commercial partners , uh, our commercial partners, uh, our work together in breaking the business model of these people smugglers is absolutely key . we smugglers is absolutely key. we have seen last year a 36% reduction in small boat crossings across the channel. that's 16,000 people. fewer are making it across the channel and we know that the french

authorities , working in close authorities, working in close cooperation with the uk , have cooperation with the uk, have prevented 26,000 attempted crossings . crossings. >> well, in other news, the government is expected to pubush government is expected to publish the details of its deal with the dup later , which will with the dup later, which will set the stage for the return of power sharing in northern ireland. the agreement will include legislation to strengthen trading arrangements between northern ireland and the rest of the uk . the dup had rest of the uk. the dup had withdrawn from power sharing almost two years ago in protest against arrangements that were brought in after brexit. the new deal will also see a package of more than £3 billion to support pubuc more than £3 billion to support public services in northern ireland, nicola sturgeon has told the uk's covid inquiry in edinburgh that she did not use informal messaging, such as whatsapp, to make decisions dunng whatsapp, to make decisions during the pandemic. these are live pictures of nicola sturgeon, the former first minister of scotland, speaking at that inquiry in edinburgh. it comes as she gives evidence there amid ongoing scrutiny. she's facing over the deletion

of her whatsapp messages. the former first minister says, though, that she did act in line with scottish government policy by not saving messages on her devices . miss sturgeons also devices. miss sturgeons also said that the impact of decisions she made throughout the pandemic will stay with her forever . the pandemic will stay with her forever. bosses from the pandemic will stay with her forever . bosses from tata steel forever. bosses from tata steel are being questioned by mps this morning over their port talbot plans. earlier this month , the plans. earlier this month, the steel giant announced it will close its furnaces in south wales, impacting some 2800 jobs live . pictures here. for those live. pictures here. for those watching on television of many workers protesting outside . the workers protesting outside. the westminster area, the company says that it's moving to a more environmental friendly production of steel , which will production of steel, which will require fewer workers hours. however, the committee of mps say they want to understand how that decision will impact the steel industry in wales , the steel industry in wales, the local community and the welsh economy. message today is for tata and the uk government to

stand up, listen to what we're saying. >> we're not going down without a fight. we're going to fight to the bitter end to save our industry. this struggle is about killing communities, killing industry. this struggle is about kilsouthymmunities, killing industry. this struggle is about kilsouth wales. ties, killing industry. this struggle is about kilsouth wales. ties, kil end industry. this struggle is about kilsouth wales. ties, kilend of of south wales. it's the end of it. industry in it. industry effectively, in south we've never south wales, we've never recovered mines . this recovered from the mines. this will again. so i think will be worse again. so i think our fight is to keep our communities alive and keep our families and our children jobs for them . for them. >> new documents show that former journalist martin bashir blamed his non—white status at the bbc for the scandal over his princess diana interview . some princess diana interview. some 3000 emails have been released after a judge ordered the broadcaster to hand over details relating to that infamous interview with the princess of wales. it also shows that bashir claimed that securing the interview while being a child of migrants, with working class roots, led to professional jealousy among some colleagues. in 2020, a documentary revealed that bashir had faked bank statements in order to gain access to the princess. as the

bbc, though, says that any suggestion that it had acted in a bad way was simply wrong. we are being warned that prices in the shops could rise again as new post—brexit checks on imported food and drink come into force. meat cheese and fresh flowers arriving in dover from the continent will require an export health certificate to be signed off by a european vet or plant inspector. the added red tape is expected to add more than £300 million to trading and expense that will be passed on to consumers fears. fears have also been raised that it could disrupt supply chains. mps are warning that the new border process could also present serious biosecurity risks . the serious biosecurity risks. the government, though, has pledged that there will be no interruption to food on supermarket shelves as a result of those new rules . and finally, of those new rules. and finally, patients in england can now get treatment for common health issues at their pharmacies without seeing a gp. the seven conditions, including earache,

insect bites and shingles nhs england say more than 90% of community pharmacies across the country have agreed to offer the scheme, and it could free up more than 10 million gp appointments each year. and for the latest stories , you can sign the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . now, the qr code on your screen. now, though, it's back to andrew and . bev. >> let's see what you've been saying at home. of course, it is brexit day. we left officially 2020. on this day we were supposed to cut all those ties, get rid of all that red tape, take ownership of our borders, all gone terribly well, uh, geoff says voted for brexit geoff says i voted for brexit and i am disappointed. not with us leaving, the way, the us leaving, but by the way, the conservative used conservative party has used brexit as an excuse to exploit the country whilst abandoning our and roger says the our security and roger says the majority of the public who voted brexit thought it would mean that britain would move immediately independent

immediately to independent trading on different terms. that brussels eu would brussels and the eu would have no over no further influence over britain . have weak, britain. we have weak, dupuchous britain. we have weak, duplicitous theresa may to thank for there was no for this. there was no requirement for the eu article 50 to have been signed. we could have immediately on wto have left immediately on wto terms and also remember she used to say again, no deal is better, better than, better than a bad deal. deal >> yeah, yeah, i mean, a word of it. well apparently not. >> um, and, and on this labour candidates for the election in announcing his the by—election. yeah. of course . um, announcing yeah. of course. um, announcing his sort of pitch for their vote , effectively, um, and half of it in urdu. and david said, i've just seen urdu. i think . i think just seen urdu. i think. i think stephen powell said it was. >> yeah, he alternate. >> yeah, he alternate. >> he had a large indian >> he had a very large indian community. absolutely >> said, just >> and david said, i've just seen video seen the labour party video announcing its candidate for rochdale, given its recent turmoil in mainly pakistani turmoil in the mainly pakistani grooming this grooming gang controversy, this video best, and video is ill judged at best, and cliff france is not at all cliff says france is not at all interested in stopping these people uk. this is

people coming to the uk. this is about over there about cleverly being over there yesterday. cleverly yesterday. why is cleverly wasting time on this one? wasting his time on this one? >> i've got to try, hasn't he? well, today is the fourth anniversary of that glorious day in our history when we officially european officially left the european union. will union. uh, opinions will continue divided on continue to be divided on whether we're better or worse off out of the european union. i was a brexiteer, proud brexiteer. beverly was not. but she's now says seen light she's now says seen the light exactly. but we're now going to talk our talk to mr brexit himself. our very own nigel farage. nigel um, happy anniversary day to you . happy anniversary day to you. um, what do you . it should have um, what do you. it should have been a lot better than it is, frankly. shouldn't it ? frankly. shouldn't it? >> well, let's just remember , >> well, let's just remember, you know that four years ago today at 11 pm, we left the european union, and i was there with a huge party in parliament square. i was there, and it was something to celebrate because, you wasn't just was it you see, it wasn't just was it the referendum, it was the attempt over the next few years by almost the entirety of the british establishment, to overturn that result. so the

fact we got over the line on that day is something to celebrate. and if we look at what's happening across the european union right now, what it's a basket case. i mean, they're at each other's throats on migration. uh we've got euroscepticism growing across the whole of europe and some really pretty extreme parties of right and left doing well . are right and left doing well. are we better off out? undoubtedly for those that cast doubt on the economics of it. well, of course there is some inconveniences when you change things. there always are. but just looking at the gdp figures, you can see that actually since 2016, we've done better than france and germany and italy. but the disappoint is this whether boris johnson really believed in brexit or really understood brexit, i don't suppose we'll ever know . ever know. >> but what we can say with some certainty is that the conservative party that took office with an 80 seat majority in 2019, the . party as a whole,

in 2019, the. party as a whole, didn't believe in brexit. >> it, they never understood it. they viewed it as a damage limitation exercise than limitation exercise rather than an opportunity. they have an opportunity. and they have done precious little over the course of the last four years to move us away from european union rules to make life easier for men and women running small businesses in this country. and on the really big one of controlling our borders and reducing immigration, which is why we had the huge turnout in 2016. it has been a complete and utter breach of trust and faith. so delighted we left. historically, the right thing to do, but it's not been delivered . do, but it's not been delivered. >> so we're talking january 2020. then of course, march 2020. then of course, march 2020. then of course, march 2020. the world completely lost its mind and we went into these completely non—scientific lockdowns. so they would say , i lockdowns. so they would say, i suppose, nigel, in their defence, we were faced with something bigger than brexit. so that their hands were tied to some degree. do you buy that ?

some degree. do you buy that? well no. >> the whole of whitehall every single civil servant wasn't involved with lockdown. i mean, most of them were lounging at home doing nothing. >> um, you know, the whole of government, the whole of government, the whole of government , every government government, every government minister wasn't, you know , hands minister wasn't, you know, hands on with the pandemic. >> and let's face it , all of >> and let's face it, all of this ended a long time ago. >> and let's face it, all of this ended a long time ago . was this ended a long time ago. was the pandemic a problem of course it was. did we make mistakes? yes, of course we did. some of them perhaps will prove to be long terme historic mistakes. but none of that gets away. none of that gets away from the fact that you go out there now. you stop people on the street in any town in this country, running their own business. and you ask them, has life become easier in them, has life become easier in the last four years? and they'll probably tell you that in many ways, the regulations have got tougher and that's the real sense disappointment . and sense of disappointment. and isn't funny, the french prime isn't it funny, the french prime minister yesterday was in the assemblee nationale talking

about frexit. you know, france mustn't leave the european union. the leader of the afd in germany now wants a referendum on whether german should leave the european union, the only country in which there seems to be a debate saying how wonderful the eu is, are the remainers who never give up in this country and you talk about that impact on small businesses, maybe medium sized businesses. >> is that the failure of the government, of the tory government, of the tory government to deliver its pledge government, of the tory go abolish it to deliver its pledge government, of the tory go abolish so 0 deliver its pledge government, of the tory go abolish so manyver its pledge government, of the tory go abolish so many of its pledge government, of the tory go abolish so many of these edge to abolish so many of these cumbersome rules and regulations? kemi regulations? i heard kemi badenoch gb badenoch talking about it on gb news weekend . they've got news at the weekend. they've got rid but are rid of so many, but there are thousands more still in place . thousands more still in place. hmm. well well, after the last lockdown and this is important, bev. >> well, after the last lockdown , when there was a proposal to get rid of thousands of eu rules, rishi sunak was elected . rules, rishi sunak was elected. well, he didn't get elected, but subsequently, when truss resigned, he promised in his leadership bid that he'd get rid of thousands of eu rules. leadership bid that he'd get rid of thousands of eu rules . once of thousands of eu rules. once he became prime minister. he

dropped that pledge. and let's see what comes at 2:00 this afternoon. let's see what's in that deal with northern ireland. you see, if the if the dup are happy, there may well be a promise from sunak that we will not break away any further from eu rules. so it is all a huge disappointment at. and it's going to lead, of course, to a catastrophic conservative loss at the next election . and a at the next election. and a labour party already pledged to take us closer back towards european union rules. it is all very disappointing, but the important thing is the constitutional break has been made. we're out, we're not going back. and in time everyone will realise the benefit . realise the benefit. >> if you're going to remain a thorn in the side of keir starmer, if he becomes prime minister, nigel farage, you're better place to do that. are you not? if you are standing as a candidate and reformer, you're sat in that house of commons. no no. >> better off in gb news. >> better off in gb news. >> uh, well , i >> better off in gb news. >> uh, well, i mean, there's a very good debate there. and in fact, the two of you have just put it forward, haven't you? i

mean, that, know , mean, one is that, you know, with gb news and with a huge social following , uh, social media following, uh, that, you i can exert that, you know, i can exert considerable influence . uh, the considerable influence. uh, the other is i can be in the house of commons and twice a year, if i'm lucky, i'll get to ask a 32nd at prime 32nd question at prime minister's questions it's minister's questions. it's a very, difficult one to work very, very difficult one to work out i can be most out where i can be most effective, what i can promise you is that, you know, having given up a quarter of a century of my life fighting for a political ideal that everybody thought impossible , and in thought was impossible, and in the early days, virtually nobody other than me supported, i won't be giving up i promise be giving up that i can promise you. okay >> all right. nigel, great to see you, nigel. we'll be back on your tv at 7:00 tonight. of course. on. >> it course. on. >>-it a course. on. >> it a great moment on >> and it was a great moment on parliament square. been >> and it was a great moment on parlia some square. been >> and it was a great moment on parlia some broadcastingeen >> and it was a great moment on parlia some broadcasting and i doing some broadcasting and i went square, went onto parliament square, and then a club. i don't then we moved to a club. i don't remember the name of it. and nigel day, and he nigel had had a long day, and he made absolutely made an absolutely terrific speech i remember speech at about two. i remember it extraordinary moment it was an extraordinary moment and one never thought happen. >> and funnily enough, you, me and all working for and nigel were all working for and nigel were all working for

an inferior an alternative and inferior broadcaster time . we broadcaster at the time. we can't name and can't remember their name and i must say that even though the mainstream press, particularly every time cameron came out, was talking about the fact that we weren't to vote brexit, weren't going to vote brexit, that going happen when that wasn't going to happen when you for that radio you worked for that radio station and you spoke to the pubuc station and you spoke to the public every you be public every day, you could be under illusions were under no illusions that we were going the message from the pubuc public was completely the opposite. >> i had money winning. oh opposite. >> you? money winning. oh opposite. >> you? m0iley winning. oh opposite. >> you? m0ii did. winning. oh did you? oh, i did. >> oh, how much did you win? >> oh, how much did you win? >> i'm not a great bet. >> um, i'm not a great bet. i put about £50 on, but i won about £700. oh, wow. well done. and love and which is very nice. love >> knocking it . so >> i'm not knocking it. so should we rejoin the eu? we're joined now by the former owner of pimlico. pimlico plumbers. joined now by the former owner of pi many pimlico plumbers. joined now by the former owner of pi many people» plumbers. joined now by the former owner of pi many people ?)lumbers. joined now by the former owner of pi many people ?)lum|many people joined now by the former owner of pi idoty people ?)lum|many people joined now by the former owner of pi ido that?iple ?)lum|many people joined now by the former owner of pi ido that? charlieimimany people joined now by the former owner of pi ido that? charlie mullinsi people must do that? charlie mullins, pimlico plumbers and of course, former brexit mep belinda former brexit party mep belinda de great to see you both. de lucy, great to see you both. charlie, let me start with you here studio, you here in the studio, when you listen farage, his listen to nigel farage, his assessment do you feel assessment there, do you feel that is as good it that maybe this is as good as it was to get, given that we was going to get, given that we had and was had the pandemic and it was inevitably always going be inevitably always going to be a bit of a mixed bag? >> well, think bit of

>> well, i think it's a bit of a poor excuse from nigel there that haven't it properly. >> facts are, nigel, that >> the facts are, nigel, that it's . it's not going it's not worked. it's not going to we rejoin. i to work. yes, we will rejoin. i mean, better off it ? mean, are we better off for it? >> are they? >> are they? >> can in there, charlie? >> can i jump in there, charlie? we're rejoin. under we're going to rejoin. under which because labour which government? because labour aren't unless which government? because labour arerdon't unless which government? because labour arerdon't think. unless you don't think. >> i mean, it's going to be >> but i mean, it's going to be unavoidable not to join because i think it's getting worse and unavoidable not to join because i thini

years. there might be thinking about it. >> t'- w— e lucy, let's bring >> belinda de lucy, let's bring you you to you in. i'm sure you want to react charlie said. react to what charlie said. >> i mean, who would have thought uk, wanting to thought that the uk, wanting to run and making run its own affairs and making our politicians more accountable would so? would be so? >> revolution , binary so >> revolution, binary and so offensive to so many brits? >> um , you know, the eu makes >> um, you know, the eu makes the case for brexit. >> every single day. if any of your viewers , uh, read the your viewers, uh, read the politics of the eu and what's going on there at the moment, it is an absolute crisis . is an absolute crisis. >> it has a far worse migrant crisis than the boat crisis than us. just ask any of the farmers out there about brexit and how they long to have the potential and opportunities for freedoms that got here. um, we have that we've got here. um, we have avoided £100 billion worth of , avoided £100 billion worth of, uh, covid recovery funds . we uh, covid recovery funds. we don't have to play any part in the £806 billion of debt that they've just created , and there they've just created, and there are so many benefits. but the concern party refuses to sell them because, in all honesty, they never wanted brexit. they were forced to deliver brexit by a handful of mps. it was thanks

to the likes of nigel farage and the brexit party that forced brexit through. and nigel is right, we won against all odds, against the establishment and all this talk about all forms and costs of trade. we never had free trade with the eu . it came free trade with the eu. it came at huge democratic cost to the british people and huge financial. it cost us billions to join the club that gave us that trade. it was never free. so and the rhetoric that's been going on anti—brexit , brexit to going on anti—brexit, brexit to blame for everything . i thought blame for everything. i thought remainers were supposed to be clever. well, here we go. not true. >> go on charlie, you're meant to be clever. >> who said that? this lady beunda >> who said that? this lady belinda just said remainers were meant to be clever. >> show her how clever you are. why, we should have stayed in. >> just said you >> well, i've just said to you that we're worse that the things that we're worse off nobody can prove off were. nobody can prove anything's there off were. nobody can prove anyt liam; there off were. nobody can prove anytliam gallagher there off were. nobody can prove anytliam gallagher on there off were. nobody can prove anytliam gallagher on here |ere off were. nobody can prove anytliam gallagher on here this was liam gallagher on here this morning the figures. made morning at the figures. made it look a perfect that look like a perfect thing that we'd if you ask the we'd done. but if you ask the people, people that matter, people, the people that matter, 57% say it was a bad mistake.

and of course, it was a bad mistake. why i there's mistake. why i mean, there's like, there's 2 million less jobs being advertised because we're not getting the workers come over. why did you want there's less contributions. >> why did you want 27 other countries tell what we can countries to tell us what we can and can't do, which is what meant by being club, meant by being in that club, which pay billions which we had to pay billions of pounds the privilege pounds a year for the privilege for, to say for, um, the countries to say what we can and can't do. why should that the case? why should why is that the case? why should why is that the case? why should impact should romania have any impact on thinking on not romania? i'm thinking about they about hungary. why should they have what goes on in have any say in what goes on in this country? charlie say that again. why should why should britain have been told what to be pushed around by 27 other countries in the eu , countries countries in the eu, countries like hungary? why did we why why were you with that state were you happy with that state of i was fed with of affairs? i was fed up with it. with you. it. well, i agree with you. >> i can't even hear you, so. >> okay. don't worry. no, we were saying that the were just saying that with the sense that we've of got sense that we've kind of got this people were this idea that people were talking you we get talking about, you know, we get our sovereignty back. >> nonsense. our sovereignty back. >> and nonsense. our sovereignty back. >> and why nonsense. our sovereignty back. >> and why is|onsense. our sovereignty back. >> and why is that nse. our sovereignty back. >> and why is that nonsense? why does what have we got? does that what have we got?

>> sovereignty give >> what's the sovereignty give us? be that >> what's the sovereignty give us? in be that >> what's the sovereignty give us? in control be that >> what's the sovereignty give us? in control of be that >> what's the sovereignty give us? in control of our; that >> what's the sovereignty give us? in control of our borders. we're in control of our borders. there's more people coming in now because of the now via france because of the fact left the eu . fact that we've left the eu. there was less coming in then. so a that's a massive so that's a that's a massive blow to us. >> that's got nothing to do with brexit charlie whatsoever. there's far more. hundreds of thousands arriving on italy. thousands are arriving on italy. and is sure all the time and greece is sure all the time they brexit. this is just they didn't brexit. this is just a crisis of its time. and the whole of europe is suffering from this control our from it. this control of our borders , it's down to the borders, it's down to the conservative party. brexit was an excalibur of a gift that the british people gave to the conservative party. they blunted it, rusted it and threw it under the bed because they are cowards . all they is a new owner . all they need is a new owner of that excalibur sword, and we will be able to control our borders. and it's all about the echr, by the way, that has nothing to do with the eu anyway, which is stopping us from . that's from deporting. but that's another the the another issue. the fact of the matter the uk , matter is, is that the uk, self—determining its own laws is a very centrist and moderate point of view. most countries in

the world that do it. why are you so scared of british people having more of a say in the laws they live under? i feel very, very nervous about this anti—brexit propaganda telling the british people they're better having foreign better off having foreign judges, politicians , judges, foreign politicians, anti democratic , unaccountable anti democratic, unaccountable ones deciding what's best for us. and that means rejoining the eu. stick with brexit guys . eu. stick with brexit guys. don't believe the anti—brexit propaganda . propaganda. >> go on charlie. you see it from a business point of view primarily, don't you? that's what concerns you. >> well, i'm seeing it from an all point of i mean, all round point of view. i mean, like these that are like these new regs that are going in, i think today going to come in, i think today or whatever. they've delayed or whatever. um, they've delayed them times. there's to them five times. there's got to be a reason they've delayed them five times. there's got to be a ibecause they've delayed them five times. there's got to be a ibecause they ay've delayed them five times. there's got to be a ibecause they knowdelayed them five times. there's got to be a ibecause they know it'syed them because they know it's going increase going to be an increase of costs of they know we're of food, and they know we're going to be in a nightmare with the again. so why have the customs again. so why have they delayed it then? why is it such mean, there's nothing they delayed it then? why is it sucican mean, there's nothing they delayed it then? why is it sucican prove , there's nothing they delayed it then? why is it sucican prove that re's nothing they delayed it then? why is it sucican prove that re's a)thing they delayed it then? why is it sucican prove that re's a good| you can prove that it's a good thing, for sure. we are thing, um, for sure. we are worse for off not being in the eu. and if i was to agree with you, melinda, is it or belinda?

then we'd both wrong. 57% of then we'd both be wrong. 57% of the public now say we should rejoin. so why don't we listen to them ? i mean, anyone can to them? i mean, anyone can dress these figures up . dress these figures up. >> mind you, a couple of days before the referendum, the poll said it would be 55, 45 to remain the united kingdom . it remain in the united kingdom. it was other way round. it was was the other way round. it was 5248 don't buy. don't 5248 to leave. don't buy. don't believe everything in believe everything you read in the charlie. been the polls, charlie. you've been around know that. around long enough to know that. >> i think part for >> and i think a big part for me. charlie, the eu digital id system, if we were part of the eu, all be hooked into that eu, we'd all be hooked into that system , wouldn't we, belinda? system, wouldn't we, belinda? without a choice . and then without a choice. and then you've then choice, then you're being. there's all sorts of being. then there's all sorts of potential dystopian nightmares that we look forward to. that we can look forward to. >> exactly the really important point is this we didn't point to make is this we didn't just an the eu of 2016. just escape an the eu of 2016. we have dodged a bullet of where the eu is evolving and growing to. it's going to ever expand to include more and more countries. many of which are poor. so there's going to be a huge movement of cheaper labour again, into countries like

france and germany, which i think will cause chaos and strife on the streets as wages are undermined again , i think are undermined again, i think it's going to cost the likes of france and germany and spain millions more pounds, supporting the countries, the poorer countries, the new ones join last november, ones that join last november, the parliament voted the eu parliament voted a majority to get rid of the veto . majority to get rid of the veto. the last remaining scraps of democracy that the eu had . now, democracy that the eu had. now, luckily for eu citizens at the moment, you know, it means a treaty change to actually go forward. but that is the mood. the ever closer union we have dodged a federalised globalist , dodged a federalised globalist, international power gobbling . international power gobbling. anti—democratic organisation and that's worth more than a few trade and travel perks with for a few wealthy people in this country. >> hey hey, belinda deluise, charlie mullins. great to see you both. thank you very much. thank a really thank you for a really interesting right. still interesting debate. right. still to come, nicola is to come, nicola sturgeon is facing interrogation facing her biggest interrogation yet over her handling the yet over her handling of the pandemic yet over her handling of the pandem says criticism was not >> she says criticism was not made her whatsapps just as made on her whatsapps just as well as she's got rid of all of them.

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live here on gb news. britain's election . channel. election. channel. >> very good morning. you are with britain's newsroom on gb news it's 1129 right. can with britain's newsroom on gb news it's1129 right. can you get a gp appointment. the government has unveiled a new scheme where pharmacies can diagnose and treat some conditions . instead of going to conditions. instead of going to a gp. >> they have been talking about

this for a long time, yes, but it is finally happening and it's happening today. so we're going to health to hear now from the health secretary, atkins, as . secretary, victoria atkins, as. >> well, today sees the third part of our plan to make our nhs and social care system faster, simpler and fairer with the announcement of pharmacy first. as of today, more than 995% of pharmacies around the country will be offering this service so that if we have seven of the most basic conditions , including most basic conditions, including things like a sore throat or earache, rather than go to your gp, you can pop into your pharmacy first, they can check you out and they're able to prescribe medication for you if thatis prescribe medication for you if that is what is needed . and this that is what is needed. and this is amazing news because it's great news for us as patients, but great news for but it's also great news for pharmacists and gps because not only are we using the expertise of pharmacists to the top of their license , but we will also, their license, but we will also, through this scheme , free up to through this scheme, free up to 10 million gp appointments each yeah >> how quickly do you think

people will see a change in terms? >> as long as i'm just saying who, why would you go to your gp? bear in mind it's going to take weeks get through . take two weeks to get through. if you've got a sore throat, you see can't help think see you can't help but think maybe this policy is about telling people to your telling people don't go to your gp don't to. gp because you don't need to. >> but rather than say don't go tgp with a sore throat , they're tgp with a sore throat, they're saying see pharmacist. saying go and see pharmacist. well now is um, well anyway, with us now is um, uh, health and social affairs editor for sunday express, lucy johnston, lucy , great to see johnston, lucy, great to see you. andrew and i were a little incredulous there to incredulous there listening to victoria saying, victoria atkinson saying, if you've throat an you've got a sore throat or an earache, go to your pharmacist. i the presumption, i suppose the presumption, therefore, a lot therefore, is that a lot of people . they up with people don't. they turn up with a their gp and a sniffle now to their gp and take these appointments take up all these appointments which people which should be used by people who oh, who are seriously ill? oh, absolutely . absolutely. >> i think it's true. and gps, there's a real crisis in our gp workforce, and we know that people are waiting months to see a gp, and i think there's about 25% of people can't even easily access their gp. >> latest figures show. but at the same time , some of these

the same time, some of these so—called minor ailments can be quite seriously serious, especially in older patients or infants. and the danger is, and many doctors are actually quite worried about this, that pharmacy sites don't have that clinical expertise. the knowledge to decide whether and when it's appropriate to use antibiotics, which is a growing antibiotics, which is a growing antibiotic overuse is a is a huge threat. it's meant to be, you know, it's predicted to become the biggest killer in 2050 as as bugs become more resistant to antibiotics and doctors are very skilled at knowing when someone may need antibiotics and when someone doesn't. and so pharmacists say that they will monitor this carefully . but it's quite carefully. but it's quite difficult to do . and the difficult to do. and the management of data is already an issue in the nhs. so that is concern. >> can can gp pharmacists now prescribe antibiotics ticks then? lucy, is that one of the

changes his . changes his. >> absolutely. yeah. so many of these conditions uh impetigo they they are meant to be diagnosing something. um complicated urinary tract infections . you know, how you infections. you know, how you decide whether it's uncomplicated, whether it isn't is actually quite a difficult clinical decision . and i clinical decision. and i absolutely agree that many people are wasting doctor's time, uh, even just sort of getting help with benefit forms. you know, we've lost our sort of infrastructure in society. um people go to their gps for many things that the gps you know, aren't best equipped, but at the same time, pharmacists , it's, same time, pharmacists, it's, you know, they do welcome this. they do want to be seen as more involved with their communities . involved with their communities. it is easier. it's a great news for patients, but they're facing , um, a black hole in their funding of over £1 billion. so the funding, the 600 million odd pounds that's gone towards this scheme is not going to even touch it . and they're closing at touch it. and they're closing at a huge rate. there's cutting their services , and they're

their services, and they're saying that this is in effect, crippling patients from one overstretched service to another . and actually, without doing the root cause of it, you know, it may be that doctors workloads is even increased because they're having to manage uploads from the pharmacists and that the patients that, you know, the freed up was only 3% of, uh, gp appointments that were freed up . appointments that were freed up. those will be filled with other people with with other problems. okay not a fix as always. we need to move on. >> lucy. thank you so much. still to come this morning we will tell you what rachel reeves potentially the future chancellor of the exchequer. if labour gets its way. what she's saying about bankers bonuses. you might be surprised . first, you might be surprised. first, though, your headlines with sam . though, your headlines with sam. >> beth . andrew, thank you very >> beth. andrew, thank you very much. good afternoon or good morning, in fact, from the gb newsroom. it'sjust morning, in fact, from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 11:30. the home secretary says the number of asylum seekers that

could be removed to rwanda under rishi sunak £240 million scheme could be quite low. it comes as james cleverly has pledged to build closer ties with france to tackle illegal channel crossings. more than 1000 migrants have arrived in the uk so far this month on small boats. those renewed efforts to prevent channel crossings could see more police officers posted to the coast, and more funding for equipment and facilities . for equipment and facilities. bons for equipment and facilities. boris johnson has marked four years since brexit took effect , years since brexit took effect, with a warning on social media of any watering down of current arrangements. it comes as the government's expected to publish the details of its deal with the dup later , which will set the dup later, which will set the stage for the return of power sharing in northern ireland. the agreement will include legislation to strengthen trading arrangements between northern ireland and the rest of the . the new deal will also the uk. the new deal will also see a package of more than £3 billion to support public services in northern ireland, nicola sturgeon has told the uk

covid inquiry that she didn't use messaging platforms like whatsapp to make decisions dunng whatsapp to make decisions during the pandemic. it comes as she gives evidence amid ongoing scrutiny she's facing for the deletion of her whatsapp messages , as the former first messages, as the former first minister says she did act in line with scottish government policy by not saving her messages on her devices. the sturgeons also said the impact of decisions she made throughout the pandemic will stay with her forever , and patients in england forever, and patients in england can now get treated for common health issues at their pharmacies. that's without seeing a gp. the seven conditions include earache, insect bite and shingles. nhs england says more than 90% of community pharmacies across the country have agreed to offer the scheme, and it could free up more than 10 million gp appointments each year and for the latest stories, you can sign up to the gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . for exclusive, limited

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that i knew had dup and co weeknights from six. >> on the ceiling 11. >> on the ceiling 11. >> stop talking stephen pound pound. >> be quiet 1141you're with >> be quiet 1141 you're with britain's news and views with andrew bev turner. the noise, the noise is off on the left was the noise is off on the left was the political leftie stephen pound center—left pound, snp center—left and broadcaster mike parry. >> new documents show that >> now new documents show that the journalist martin bashir blamed his non—white status at the for the scandal over his

the bbc for the scandal over his princess diana interview . the bbc for the scandal over his princess diana interview. but earlier spoke idiotic, by the earlier we spoke idiotic, by the way, think way, which is idiotic. i think he at straws a he was clutching at straws a little bit there, wasn't he? but earlier on this to earlier we spoke on this show to the webb, who the journalist andy webb, who fought the bbc for seven teen years to release these emails, and this is what he told us. >> it's clear evidence from emails that i've already seen that at the centre , if you like, that at the centre, if you like, or close to the centre of our email circle is the chief of staff to the director general, a chap called phil harrold . now, chap called phil harrold. now, if mr harrold was acting as chief of staff, with the blessing of his immediate boss, just just one rung up, then that does raise enormous questions. i think about, um, tim davies to unlawful , fully conceal unlawful, fully conceal information is a crime and the bbc has , as i allege, committed bbc has, as i allege, committed an actual , bbc has, as i allege, committed an actual, um, criminal offence . an actual, um, criminal offence. >> and just so you remember , the >> and just so you remember, the interview was one of the most important in broadcast history. it changed the princess's

relationship with royal family forever. she's famously said, didn't she? there's three people in this marriage you're talking about. that by about. she was told that by bashir was being bashir that she was being pursued she was facing pursued by m15. she was facing death threats and disgustingly , death threats and disgustingly, he claimed prince charles he claimed that prince charles had paid an abortion and had paid for an abortion and tiggy legge—bourke, who was the children's nanny , who was children's nanny, who she was very, wary of, and tiggy very, very wary of, and tiggy won a legal case against that recently. >> now, before we get the panel reaction, give reaction, we do want to give some balance. so this is what the in response. we the bbc said in response. we have made redactions where necessary, with the necessary, consistent with the freedom of information act. there is nothing support the there is nothing to support the allegations that the bbc acted in faith in 2020, and we in bad faith in 2020, and we maintain this suggestion is simply wrong. right now i'm suspicious, mike parry, that there has not been a more recent cover. >> coveh >> we know there was a cover up in 1996. yes, the head of news at the time, lord hall, he became lord hall . it became became lord hall. it became director general. um said it was all done properly and fine and that there was a major cover up. then not convinced that the then i'm not convinced that the reason have held on to reason the bbc have held on to all documents for years all these documents for years

and is because there's all these documents for years and another)ecause there's all these documents for years and another)ecausup�*iere's all these documents for years and another)ecausup�*iere':the been another cover up over the cover up . cover up. >> cover up. >> mean, the man at the >> i mean, look, the man at the centre martin centre of it all is martin bashir, okay? evil is a word bashir, okay? and evil is a word you can use into way he went you can use into the way he went about his journalistic business. i don't think heard mention i don't think i've heard mention yet that at one yet today that at one point somebody circulated a rumour that it wasn't bashir who had faked the bank statements. but diana's brother. faked the bank statements. but diana's brother . who? that's diana's brother. who? that's right. who had actually lord, lord spencer and he was doing, you know, it was thrashing around everywhere to dissect blame for me. so he's a sinner. but as so often in these cases, it's not always the crime. it's the cover up, isn't it? yeah yeah. the cover up in this yeah. and the cover up in this case, nixon absolutely case, richard nixon absolutely has so long has been going on for so long and every time they got closer. and by the way, our journalist friend here, 22 years on covering these , that's one of covering these, that's one of the greatest acts of journalism i can remember. i, you know , i can remember. i, you know, i've been told that the bbc batten down the hatches. anybody who , uh, who even talked to this who, uh, who even talked to this man was threatened with the sack and that kind of stuff. but the

point is, now, every time they got a bit closer, the bbc went further back further back further back and further back and back. and further back. >> interested. will come >> i'm interested. i will come to stephen. just to you, stephen. but let me just ask you've ask you, though, because you've both newspapers for both worked in newspapers for years. if you as a journalist had opportunity to had this opportunity to interview diana at the interview princess diana at the height of her fame, would would you have tinkered around the edges? >>i edges? >> i would not have lied of ethical. >> well, no journalistic procedure. >> well, the way you're telling it, bev is almost like andrew and i've been presented with the opportunity to interview princess diana. what bashir did was he engineered massive was he engineered a massive conspiracy of deceit to get her to say, i must talk to you because i want to put the record straight. >> and he cleverly targeted her brother. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> saying that the brother had been targeted. brother had been targeted. the brother had been.the been targeted. the brother had been. the brother had a security guy was selling stories been. the brother had a security guy him as selling stories been. the brother had a security guy him andelling stories been. the brother had a security guy him and theg stories been. the brother had a security guy him and the princeas been. the brother had a security guy him and the prince and the about him and the prince and the bodyguard, he couldn't even bodyguard, and he couldn't even necessarily connected it bodyguard, and he couldn't even nethe;arily connected it bodyguard, and he couldn't even nethe most connected it bodyguard, and he couldn't even nethe most extraordinary. it is the most extraordinary. >> it's utterly devious. look, let's hone in on what the let's just hone in on what the bbc actually here. the bbc have actually done here. the bbc have actually done here. the bbc said, not me, guv. didn't bbc said, not me, guv. i didn't go out and fake those bank

statements. martin go out and fake those bank statem> they made a lot of money out of it, a hell of a lot of money out of it. now bev, your original question if andrew and i were given it on night i were given it on the night i saw this interview, my first thought as a street thought as a fleet street journalist was how journalist of 25 years was how did get this interview ? what did he get this interview? what what has he done ? no, no royal what has he done? no, no royal connections . he wasn't one of connections. he wasn't one of the you know, andrew morton, who

wrote the diner book in the sunday times. he no sunday times. he had no connections. and very first connections. and my very first thought, i was the bbc boss, thought, if i was the bbc boss, i'd said, martin, come into my office and sit down. i want to congratulate you on a brilliant job. now, how did you actually get let's see your notepad. exactly. let's see your shorthand notes. let's see your diary meetings had diary of the meetings you've had . there's anything . let's see if there's anything else we need to know to protect ourselves. amazing ourselves. when this amazing interview goes out. >> there's this expression. there's an expression in newspapers. oh, that's the phone call far. you one phone call too far. you make one phone call too far. you make one phone call far, the whole call too far. you make one phone call could the whole call too far. you make one phone call could unravel. whole call too far. you make one phone call could unravel. this.e call too far. you make one phone call could unravel. this was thing could unravel. this was the equivalent, the broadcasting equivalent, stephen, it? did stephen, wasn't it? they did not do but they do the proper checks, but they did diligence and there was do the proper checks, but they did no diligence and there was do the proper checks, but they did no sourcing. e and there was no, no sourcing. >> look , i've said this before. >> look, i've said this before. i'm almost convinced that there's working there's some moles working within bbc totally within the bbc to totally destroy was once a great, destroy what was once a great, proud institution in the context of news platforms, of alternative news platforms, of alternative news platforms, of one need not be of which one need not be mentioned here you mentioned here and now, you know, looks to me as though know, it looks to me as though the bbc has got a death wish. and sorry there complete. and i'm sorry there complete. why just hold their why can't they just hold their hands say we were wrong hands up and say we were wrong or incompetence ? or sheer incompetence?

>> don't mind me saying >> if you don't mind me saying play >> if you don't mind me saying play paula vennells and play the paula vennells card and say you know, stay in say and just, you know, stay in the silence and prepare it. >> say it's not me, just to give you example it you another example of how it can done properly. can be done properly. >> of this >> andrew neil, once of this parish. right. he bought the andrew book his andrew morton book for his papeh andrew morton book for his paper, sunday times. but paper, the sunday times. but before published a word, he before he published a word, he had team of had a top team of six journalists through every journalists go through every word make sure word of that book to make sure they weren't going publish they weren't going to publish anything true . anything that wasn't true. that's exactly the bbc that's exactly what the bbc should . should have done. >> he also was knew who >> he also he also was knew who the source was. the source was princess diana. yeah, exactly. >> exactly moving on. >> exactly right. moving on. rachel reeves. okay, so i don't know whether you have strong opinions on rachel reeves, whether you feel you know her. she is the shadow chancellor. she'll be she'll be the first, probably, possibly . and she she'll be she'll be the first, protnow, possibly . and she she'll be she'll be the first, protnow , possibly . and she she'll be she'll be the first, protnow , saidziossibly . and she she'll be she'll be the first, protnow , said stephen, and she she'll be she'll be the first, protnow , said stephen, that she she'll be she'll be the first, protnow , said stephen, that that has now, said stephen, that that labour would not reinstate the bankers bonus cap that was scrapped by the conservatives last year. what does that tell us about this potentially incoming labour government? >> what it says is that that

rachel reeves, who's a former bank of england official, is a sensible and serious politician. look, eu thing. do you know look, the eu thing. do you know the it's it the bankers bonus? it's a it caps at 200% of their income. caps it at 200% of their income. now you know and i now the point you know and i know if you actually had know that if you actually had this you couldn't get this cap where you couldn't get more 200% your, of more than 200% of your, your, of your salary paid as a bonus, you'd buying paintings you'd be buying paintings or gold you gold bars or something. you know, aren't fools. know, these people aren't fools. and sorry. forget, you and i'm sorry. don't forget, you know, could have know, the tories could have reinstated truss reinstated it. liz truss cancelled it and the tories would get back again. would get it back in again. i'm sorry. being sorry. what she's doing is being grown up. there are some people on frothing trotskyite on the far frothing trotskyite left of labour who left of the labour party who say, bankers and say, let's bash the bankers and cut sorry. cut their bonuses. i'm sorry. it's small number it's a very small number of people. discouragement people. it's a discouragement to incentive. >> with what she's >> i agree with what she's doing, think doing, but i don't think it's just frothing the left just people frothing on the left are to be cross. there'd are going to be cross. there'd be a lot people be a lot of people who've struggled cost living struggled paying cost of living crisis. bankers crisis. some of these bankers work that are partly work for banks that are partly owned by the state, thinking lloyds andrew, can say. lloyds and andrew, can i say. and very upset and they will be very upset about it. >> agree let me just say >> i agree and let me just say that what i do i say tax that what i do is i say tax them, you give the them, you know, give them the biggest bonuses in the world. but tax but don't forget we had tax in this can right the this country can go right the way top depending on

way up to the top depending on how much you're earning. >> you think we're taxed >> don't you think we're taxed enough? >> don't you think we're taxed enowell sorry. you're >> well i'm sorry. no. if you're on 200% annual income on a 200% of your annual income and you're on £1 million anyway, then sorry. should then i'm sorry. you should be paying paying more tax. >> america. in >> yeah, but in america. in america, stephen, they're allowed to earn much more than that. these that. and that's where these people they'd people would have gone if they'd have hammered have been hammered in this country. sceptical country. i'm very sceptical about chancellors about labour chancellors appearing be before appearing to be moderate before they into power. i think i'm they get into power. i think i'm right that gordon right in saying that gordon brown, first budget, brown, in his first budget, actually income tax down. actually put income tax down. but then at the end of his time as prime minister, as chancellor he put the top rate up, didn't he put the top rate up, didn't he , to 45. and in between time he, to 45. and in between time it went up to 5,050% from 45 to 50. in between time, you managed to smash the pensions industry in this country by taking 5 billion a year out of it all, or all labour chancellors. in my view, are tax and spend. but they do try to pretend to be moderate before they get into power. i'm sorry, gordon brown, the government ran out of money. >> don't they say that, stephen? >> don't they say that, stephen? >> he said no, of course they

>> don't they say that, stephen? >> hiwe've no, of course they >> don't they say that, stephen? >> hiwe've discussed'se they >> don't they say that, stephen? >> hiwe've discussed this�*iey they. we've discussed this before. every single first secretary treasury secretary of the treasury has left note their left a note for their predecessor. since reginald maudling an maudling in 1964. it was an in—house joke that some filthy liberal democrat and so liberal democrat so and so actually, david laws leaked on that. yeah , yeah. that. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> well, and we have leave >> well, and we have to leave a little to two now to little note to you two now to say so sorry, but we've run say i'm so sorry, but we've run out of time. uh, still to come, though, morning. don't though, this morning. don't go anywhere. keir starmer takes anywhere. sir keir starmer takes on rishi sunak at pmqs at midday. take a little break midday. we take a little break now and then we come back and then we have chat. then we have a chat. the wonderful christopher and wonderful christopher hope and gloria in our gloria de piero, who are in our westminster and they westminster studio, and they will take through all the will take you through all the action, don't go anywhere. action, but don't go anywhere. this gb this is britain's newsroom on gb news, outlook with news, a brighter outlook with boxt sponsors of boxt solar, the sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news very wild day across parts of northern scotland. gusty winds and some heavy rain as well. further south it's largely dry and cloudy thanks to high pressure, but deepening of low but this deepening area of low

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gb news. >> well, it's wednesday, it must be prime minister's questions. we know at 12:00. of course you should be sending your questions. what would you be asking minister or the asking the prime minister or the leader opposition? leader of the opposition? >> right. the email you >> that's right. the email you can email chris and gloria gb views at gb news.com. and here they are , resplendent in they are, resplendent in westminster for this afternoon. how are you both doing ? how are you both doing? >> very good. yes, it's that time of the week when we're asking for your questions for pmqs. me, gloria de pmqs. live with me, gloria de piero and christopher hope . piero and christopher hope. >> we can't hear you want to know where you're from, what your name is, anything else you want tell us? want to tell us? >> is sort of >> because this is sort of a community. family and community. it's a family and it's about you at home. it's all about you at home. >> whether you're listening on the or watching on the telly. >> what would you be asking the prime indeed prime minister or indeed the leader opposition , leader of the opposition, andrew? both briefly. what's your ? your question? >> well, i would ask rishi sunak what the hell were you doing on some obscure tv station yesterday talking to people yesterday talking to two people i've never heard of, when you could gb news, could have been on gb news, talking all respect to me talking with all respect to me and bev. and we wouldn't mind if

you to us at the end of you talked to us at the end of your 36 hour fast. >> yeah . well, tempted to >> yeah. well, i'm tempted to ask about the fast and ask him about the fast and whether he's trying to force the nafion whether he's trying to force the nation starve themselves whether he's trying to force the na death, starve themselves whether he's trying to force the na death, givenitarve themselves whether he's trying to force the na death, given itarve expensive es to death, given how expensive a shopping but this is shopping trolley is. but this is what i would say to him. this morning. we've seen as morning. i'd say we've seen as ally pally announcing his candidacy for the rochdale seat as the labour mp , most of which as the labour mp, most of which was spoken in urdu , the national was spoken in urdu, the national language of pakistan . and i language of pakistan. and i would ask mr sunak , is he would ask mr sunak, is he comfortable that the majority of those constituents will not understand a word of what their potential candidate said? thanks, bev. >> that was i wouldn't say it was brief, but that's a good question. thank you, mr speaker. >> will be coming for bevin order you at home, please send is your question. >> tell us who you are and where you're from for your questions to our panel. news to put to our panel. gb news news views co m yes pmqs news at gb views co m yes pmqs live is all about you at home. >> but first of all, we are

going to introduce you to our panel >> this is gb news britain's election channel pmqs live starts right now. >> it is almost midday on wednesday. >> the 31st of january. this is pmqs live on gb news with gloria de piero and christopher hope . de piero and christopher hope. >> in just one moment, rishi sunak and sir keir starmer go head to head at prime minister's questions with our full coverage of every moment we'll be of every moment and we'll be getting reaction paul getting full reaction from paul holmes, tory mp for eastleigh and parliamentary private secretary lord cameron, the secretary to lord cameron, the foreign secretary, and louise hague, shadow transport secretary. >> and of course, this is supposed to be the moment when parliament talks about the most important issue facing our nation. so i'm going to start by asking what do asking our panel, paul, what do you think is most important you think is the most important issue facing our nation right

now? >> keeping economy growing, >> keeping the economy growing, making reduce taxes making sure that we reduce taxes on working people and the on hard working people and the health ? louis hague, uh , health service? louis hague, uh, well, i would say the cost of living crisis, it's making sure that people can afford to pay their bills, pay rent and their bills, pay their rent and mortgage, a decent mortgage, and have a decent standard living. standard of living. >> and how effective do you think format of prime think the format of prime minister's questions is talking about the nafion? >>i nafion? >> i think it's really good. i mean, you know, it's got worldwide viewership. uh, the prime minister is held under scrutiny , and you get the scrutiny, and you get the serious and of serious questions and some of the questions well. and the funny questions as well. and what it like right now what what's it like right now for got for sir keir starmer? he's got six got to six questions and he's got to work the thing which work out what's the thing which will punch on will land the biggest punch on the pm. >> yeah i think there's always a balance between going to balance between what's going to be best theatre, if you be the best theatre, if you like, in minister's like, in prime minister's questions going to questions and how it's going to sort judge . suppose the sort of judge. suppose the labour the labour party, with the conservative party but we also want to country as want to speak to the country as well. think that's why i'm well. and i think that's why i'm sure keir will be leading on the issues ordinary issues that are facing ordinary people know , rishi sunak >> and, you know, rishi sunak better of us. do you better than most of us. do you think looks forward to

think he looks forward to wednesday at noon? >> every minister >> i think every prime minister gets he's a well gets nervous, but he's a well briefed prime minister, and i think speaking to think he enjoys speaking to the country important country about those important issues. is social issues. that matter is social media important? i mean, is it important to click? the right question the audience question is who's the audience for is it gb news for it? is it is it gb news viewers? mps or is it the viewers? is it mps or is it the wider social media crowd? well it's probably why it's quite difficult isn't it. >> because are appealing and >> because you are appealing and applying different applying to lots of different audiences. there's the there's the sitting up in the the journalist sitting up in the lobby that will be writing up their columns and their their jokes after pmqs. but yeah, jokes after pmqs. um, but yeah, absolutely. social media is clearly the biggest way to reach a wider audience now. >> and the speaker has got to his feet . his feet. >> so he's giving a telling off there. >> i think about language using questions. gloria. so this is a moment when, of course, the world's eyes are on the chamber and speaker knows that and the speaker maybe knows that and the speaker maybe knows that and keen to get a message and is keen to get a message across wider public, he across to the wider public, he does off. does tell people off. >> a little joke with bev, >> i had a little joke with bev, didn't because questions didn't i? because her questions are little bit long. are always a little bit long. we love they don't love her, but but they don't like go on for more than