>> morning 930 on thursday the 1st of february. this is britain's news from one gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner. very good morning. >> we made it through january. now manhunt underway. now manhunt is underway. nine people, and people, including a mother and her two children, been her two children, have been injured in a suspected acid attack in london and an mp who receives death threats. >> the justice minister, mike freer, says he's standing down at the next election. he's fed up. he's been targeted with a suspected attack his suspected arson attack at his office, and he's been wearing a staff jacket . he says it's staff jacket. he says it's because his pro—israel views. because of his pro—israel views. this comes as anti—semitic incidents have risen by 104% across the uk . across the uk. >> and don't we need more bobbies on the beat? the home secretary , james cleverly, has secretary, james cleverly, has set out his vision to get back to core policing . do you feel to core policing. do you feel safe on the streets of britain? what would like to be done ?

what would you like to be done? >> alan bates he's the hero, isn't he? of the hour. the former subpostmaster says he's not accepting the derisory offer of compensation from the post office. he says it's just a sixth of what he's seeking. we're going to be talking to one of the lawyers who represented some who some of those postmasters who are being stitched up, are still being stitched up, aren't and the farmers, aren't they? and the farmers, well, they're still protesting . well, they're still protesting. >> in europe, we're seeing live pictures. this is the protest in brussels this morning . it's at a brussels this morning. it's at a summit of eu leaders that's taking place. as you can see, there are flames and fires burning their tractors there. we will bring you the latest. >> and we've got another home secretary , james cleverly, secretary, james cleverly, saying he wants to return to bafic saying he wants to return to basic policing. how many times have we heard the conservative party home secretary say that more bobbies on the beat. yes, home secretary, you're in charge. on with it . but it charge. get on with it. but it never happens. >> seem to, does it?

>> it doesn't seem to, does it? gb the email gb views gbnews.com is the email , first, though, , as always. first, though, you're latest headlines , as always. first, though, you'rsam latest headlines , as always. first, though, you'rsam francis headlines , as always. first, though, you'rsam francis .1eadlines , as always. first, though, you'rsam francis . bevlines , as always. first, though, you'rsam francis . bev and andrew. >> thank you very much and good morning from the gb newsroom. the headlines just after 930. well our top story this morning is that a manhunt is underway after a mother and two children were hurt in a suspected acid attack in south london. six others, including three police officers, were injured after coming to help the woman and her children in. five of those were taken to hospital . we understand taken to hospital. we understand no arrests have been made so far. we will, of course bring you more on this developing story throughout the rest of this morning. story throughout the rest of this morning . the government is this morning. the government is preparing to fast track two key pieces of legislation through the commons aimed at delivering on the stormont deal. the first piece will underline the government's commitment to northern ireland's position within the uk. the second measure aims to end to routine

checks on goods from britain to northern ireland that were brought in after brexit. leader of the dup sir jeffrey donaldson says the new plans will mean his party can now end their boycott of power sharing in a 44 year old man will appear in court charged with the murders of two teenage boys in bristol, 15 year old mason rist and 16 year old max dixon were stabbed by anthony snook on saturday night and later died in hospital . and later died in hospital. eight people have been arrested as part of the investigation, with five others still in police custody . three the bank of custody. three the bank of england is expected to keep interest rates at 5.25% for the fourth time in a row , economists fourth time in a row, economists predict. the bank of england will likely retain its cautious stance of keeping borrowing costs higher for long enough to get inflation under control. but they're claiming there could be a subtle shift in the bank's outlook for future rate cuts . outlook for future rate cuts. and these are live pictures for those watching on tv, as

hundreds of farmers protest outside the eu headquarters in brussels . as tensions continue brussels. as tensions continue to rise over better working conditions . signs that says conditions. signs that says france has been at the centre of a growing dispute across europe, with tens of thousands of farmers staging demonstrations in germany, in poland, belgium and in italy. they want environmental rules to be relaxed and help to deal with rising costs . and for the latest rising costs. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or by going to gb news.com for slash alerts. now though, let's get more from bev and . andrew. bev and. andrew. >> very good morning to you. now we don't seem to be any closer to sending migrants off to rwanda, but italy have cracked it and we will tell you why. so stay with us for that in a little while. but first, is crime of control?

crime out of control? >> is manhunt is underway >> this is a manhunt is underway after injured after nine people injured following suspected acid attack at acid attack in south london yesterday evening. >> that's right. a woman and her two children were among two young children were among those hurt, as well as three police were called police officers who were called to the scene. it just seems to be latest string of be the latest in a string of violent crimes getting over violent crimes all getting over what happened in nottingham, aren't living lawless >> are we living in lawless britain ? britain? >> well, james cleverly, a home secretary , admitted that rates secretary, admitted that rates for solving crimes were far too low. do you feel safe on the streets of britain? what would you like to see? what would make you like to see? what would make you safe? let know gb you feel safe? let us know gb views com but we're views at gb news. com but we're going to first cross over to ray addison, who's in south london with the latest that with the latest about that shocking acid attack of a manhunt underway . manhunt is underway. >> ray, over to you. good morning . morning. >> good morning to you both. yes. the incident took place here last night at 730 on leicester avenue, which is just around the corner from clapham common. and eyewitnesses are saying that the mother and her two children had been with a man

in a car when the pair got out of a vehicle and began fighting in the street . now the suspect in the street. now the suspect at one point took a child from the vehicle and violently slammed them onto the ground twice . he then reportedly threw twice. he then reportedly threw a suspected corrosive substance over the woman and her children. at that point, one witnesses, as one witness, describes, hearing the mother screaming , i can't the mother screaming, i can't see, i can't see, please get help. the man then allegedly returned to the car and attempted to run the woman over before fleeing the scene. now bystanders did come to the mothers aid and began to spray her with water. um, some in the process became injured themselves. three police officers who also responded did receive minor injuries. two in total, nine people were injured, five had to be taken to a major trauma centre to receive treatment. met police says that they are drawing on resources from across the force to

apprehend this individual, and work is ongoing to determine what has led to this awful incident. what they're also doing is testing that suspected corrosive substance to find out exactly what it was. so far, no arrests have been made. however, police do say that they'll give us an update on the condition of the injured later on today . the injured later on today. >> all right, that's ray addison. thank you. >> ray. ray addison there in clapham . we will bring you any clapham. we will bring you any breaking that story breaking news on that story as and hear now of and when we hear it. now of course, this comes as the conservative mike has conservative mp, mike freer has quit over quit frontline politics over fears for his safety. he's on the page of your newspaper. >> he is? yeah. he's giving it exclusive interview. he's the mp for and golders green, for finchley and golders green, the justice he's told for finchley and golders green, the leunak he's told for finchley and golders green, the leunak he's he's told for finchley and golders green, the leunak he's going 's told for finchley and golders green, the leunak he's going 's 1step for finchley and golders green, the jl at1ak he's going 's 1step for finchley and golders green, the jl at the he's going 's 1step for finchley and golders green, the jl at the nextgoing 's 1step for finchley and golders green, the jl at the next election.;tep down at the next election. he's one of first think, one of the first mps, i think, to ever wear a stab jacket. his office attacked arsonists office was attacked by arsonists in his constituency last december . in his constituency last december. and he was one of those mps who was targeted by the assassin, who murdered the

conservative mp david amess. >> well , conservative mp david amess. >> well, we're joined now by conservative mp for shipley and friend of this channel, phillip davis. philip, good see you davis. philip, good to see you and we're seeing more and more of these, aren't we, these sorts of these, aren't we, these sorts of against mps, of threats against mps, particularly over the issue in the middle east, how frightened are mps like does it feel like there's a particularly sort of febrile atmosphere in lots of constituencies at the moment? >> yeah, i mean, think there's >> yeah, i mean, i think there's no doubt that mike's had it worse than than anybody. probably you know, he's had he's had time for quite some had a torrid time for quite some time. so , you know, and it time. and so, you know, and it is completely unacceptable . is completely unacceptable. >> and yeah, i mean, look >> and um, yeah, i mean, look you have to have a thick skin to be mp. be an mp. >> everybody everybody knows that. getting that. um, but it is getting beyond pale in some cases. beyond the pale in some cases. and, i think issue beyond the pale in some cases. anisrael i think issue beyond the pale in some cases. anisrael gaza 1ink issue beyond the pale in some cases. anisrael gaza has issue beyond the pale in some cases. anisrael gaza has broughte in israel and gaza has brought a lot of it to a head. i mean, i'm an mp in in the bradford district act, um, where there's obviously a lot of muslim , uh, i obviously a lot of muslim, uh, i have a lot of muslim constituents and, uh, you know, as somebody who robustly supports israel in their in

their conflict against hamas . their conflict against hamas. you know, i've had some messages that you wouldn't you wouldn't really want to have. and, you know, there's a chap who spent a night in police custody on the back of one of messages that back of one of the messages that he me. so, look, you he sent to me. so, look, you know, yes, it it um, a know, yes, it is, it is a, um, a difficult time. and i probably feel more i probably feel more fearful now when i go around my constituency than i've ever done i >> would you wear a stab jacket? >> would you wear a stab jacket? >> no, i don't do anything like that. know, i'm still that. and i, you know, i'm still as to my constituents as accessible to my constituents as accessible to my constituents as because you you as ever. i don't because you you know, you don't want people to. they're trying to intimidate . they're trying to intimidate. people are trying to intimidate you , that it's a deliberate you, that it's a deliberate strategy to intimidate you. and, you know, and i'm not prepared to allow that to happen . um, but to allow that to happen. um, but look, it's, you know , but it's look, it's, you know, but it's not just for the mp themselves. you of are robust you know, most of us are robust enough able to take it. enough to be able to take it. it's the family members as well that difficult for. that it's very difficult for. they didn't sign up for for, that. >> james cleverly, in talking to the national council the national policing council yesterday said to get

yesterday, said he wants to get back basic policing. more back to basic policing. more bobbies on the beat philip, how many we heard this many times have we heard this from secretary and from a home secretary and it doesn't to happen. we get doesn't seem to happen. we get what there three or 4 or 5 what were there three or 4 or 5 police officers targeted that woman singing in woman who was singing hymns in the of oxford street the the streets of oxford street the other day. look, she may have broken guidelines broken the guidelines or the licenses . five police officers, licenses. five police officers, the priorities are all skewed and 14 years of tory tory rule used. law and order used to be a big issue for the tories lost. the government have lost their way on it. >> look, it's difficult. the police operation police have operation independence that's quite independence and that's quite right , really. we don't want to right, really. we don't want to live country where live in a country where politicians police politicians tell the police these the you should these are the people you should go and these the go and arrest, and these are the people you shouldn't go and arrest. in arrest. that's what happens in dictatorships but obviously dictatorships. but obviously with lot of with that comes a lot of frustration because politicians, many politicians would many politicians like me, would agree , andrew, that, agree with you, andrew, that, you these people you know, all these people going around arresting people for standing an standing silently outside an abortion clinic, it's completely unacceptable. but and perhaps we should make sure we're a bit more careful about the laws that we pass, the police are we pass, that the police are therefore by when just therefore standing by when just

stop exactly, absolutely. stop oil exactly, absolutely. i i agree, so i think there's a lot we have those same frustrations, but it doesn't mean to say that we want to live in country where politicians in a country where politicians decide police should, decide who the police should, should target . look, look at should target. look, i look at it other end of the it from the other end of the spectrum. i'm a i'm a hardliner on i would much to on crime. i would much prefer to see much stiffer sentences for people , particularly who are people, particularly who are persistent offenders. then, because the fewer criminals you've got out on the streets, the less crime you're going to have. that's the that's the issue. the trouble is, we have too criminals out the too many criminals out on the streets, the courts streets, and i think the courts need a betterjob. think need to do a betterjob. i think the police get frustrated the police get very frustrated when arresting when they're arresting the same people time after time after time , they them to time, and they take them to court they just get court and they just get literally nothing. literally next to nothing. a suspended or community suspended sentence or community sentence or whatever, and they're straight back the they're straight back out on the streets committing crimes again. i the i think that's the big frustration for the police for and all of and i'd much and all of us. and i'd much prefer see tougher sentences, prefer to see tougher sentences, more criminals prison more criminals in prison would be way , i think, of be a better way, i think, of keeping safe . keeping the public safe. >> okay, well, with us. >> okay, well, stay with us. stay yeah stay with us. yeah >> um, because on the back of

the home secretary urging police to get back, to call police, and we're by the hampshire we're joined by the hampshire police commissioner, we're joined by the hampshire police who zommissioner, we're joined by the hampshire police who was nissioner, we're joined by the hampshire police who was actually', donna jones, who was actually with james cleverly yesterday. donna jones, who was actually with ja|you've3verly yesterday. donna jones, who was actually with ja|you've probably terday.the donna, you've probably heard the conversation we've just had morning to you with philip davis here. is there a sense now here. there is there a sense now that streets of britain that the streets of britain aren't as safe as they should be? and because the be? and is that because the police doing the job they police aren't doing the job they should doing ? they've got the should be doing? they've got the wrong priorities. should be doing? they've got the wrong priirities. should be doing? they've got the wrong prii mean, in >> well, i mean, in yeah, in terms questions and good terms of the questions and good morning. thanks for having on morning. thanks for having me on to issue. um, in to talk about this issue. um, in terms streets britain terms of the streets of britain not safe as they should not being as safe as they should be. well, look, any crimes committed particularly committed, particularly the sort of saw in clapham of crime that we saw in clapham last i was actually last night and i was actually driving through london on my way home from a meeting at the home office around the office at around the time the attack happened. as you attack happened. um, and as you said, i that national said, i was in that national policing meeting with policing board meeting with james cleverly yesterday. um so any committed, any crimes committed, particularly ones using a form of, uh , chemical based weapon as of, uh, chemical based weapon as we have heard from last night's attacks , is incredibly worrying. attacks, is incredibly worrying. what we do have to remember is that crime has come down significantly over the last

decade. um, in the country and including serious violence over the last year that has also dropped. however, there is still a long way to go, and the return of more police officers into local policing as part of the government's uplift programme is going a long way towards helping . but in london we know they really are still struggling to recruit police officers and in fact, sir mark rowley was the fact, sir mark rowley was at the meeting the home meeting with myself and the home secretary yesterday . uh, you secretary yesterday. uh, you know, yes , you know, we know, and so, yes, you know, we know, and so, yes, you know, we know the uplift know that the met's uplift programme has been challenge programme has been a challenge for donna, i think people would >> donna, i think people would be to that be surprised to hear that crime has certainly has gone down. it certainly doesn't feel like that. is that partly people just don't partly because people just don't bother incidents? now, bother reporting incidents? now, if you have your bike stolen , if you have your bike stolen, you don't bother. have your you don't bother. you have your car in, car window smashed in, or somebody bag off the somebody nicks your bag off the back seat, people just don't bother mean, bother reporting those. i mean, even , why is even house burglaries, why is pretty decrease analysed pretty much decrease analysed now in terms of anybody having their collar felt and ending up in the dock ? in the dock? >> i think that's a very good point. yes, i think there is a

lot of apathy out there with victims of crime where they are not reporting crimes as much as they should be. we know that there still a number of there are still a number of crimes domestic violence, for example, very example, is still a very underreported crime across the country . it is up. we are country. it is going up. we are having more reports each year, but still a long way off, but it's still a long way off, probably where it needs to be. um, terms of it not um, so in terms of it not feeling it did ten feeling as safe as it did ten years ago, i think it's because crime types changed. so crime types have changed. so criminals are committing crimes in different ways . they're in different ways. they're becoming more sophisticated . um, becoming more sophisticated. um, harm has probably increased, but the has the volume of crimes has technically gone down. and that's probably people feel, that's probably why people feel, as you've just said, as if crimes actually haven't gone down as much as the statistics tell they have done . tell us. they have done. >> john, you need as >> john, what do you need as police if you had police officers? if you had a magic wand and you could wave it, is it just more people or is it, is it just more people or is it getting rid of some of the bureaucracy and the box ticking exercises that you have to do ? exercises that you have to do? >> yes, the red tape and policing has has gone up

enormously over the last 20 or so years. and some of that luck is it is with good reason, because we need to make sure that police are using the powers they and that is they have and that there is an audh they have and that there is an audit however, it does audit trail. however, it does massively slow them down. the introduction of the piece of legislation created legislation that created gdpr has had a significant impact on policing. you know, a detective could now spend , you know, a could now spend, you know, a whole week redacting a file before they can even send it to the crown prosecution service for decision on, for a charging decision on, let's say, a 2 or 3 hander incident with 2 or 3 people suspects in that case, um, and that does slow the whole system down. so gdpr is great, but the effect on policing has been quite impactful. the key here is more police, more police on the streets, better cctv of those councils that cut cctv over the last decade, reinvesting in it. that really helps to speed up prosecutions. yes, there have been tweaks through the ministry of justice as well . in terms of of justice as well. in terms of sentencing, still need to. we sentencing, we still need to. we still need to review sentencing, particularly of our particularly for some of our

younger lot of the younger people. a lot of the serious crimes across the country now are committed country now are being committed by people under the age of 25, um, to other people under the age of 25 stabbings, for example , that we're hearing of now, weekly young people under the age of 18 stabbing each other. so need criminal so we do need the criminal justice system catch up justice system to catch up in terms because , as terms of sentencing, because, as i say, some of the most serious crimes communities now crimes in our communities now are fact , on the whole, are not, in fact, on the whole, being adults . they being committed by adults. they are being committed are also being committed by children are also being committed by chi|isn't that also too much? >> isn't that also too much? donna of police officers staring at looking for at computer screens looking for hate crime, for crime on hate crime, looking for crime on social media and too much of too often now police officers being deployed as social workers, trying to sort out people who've deployed as social workers, tryi|homeless out people who've deployed as social workers, tryi|homeless issues.�*ple who've deployed as social workers, tryi|homeless issues.�*ple vis)'ve got homeless issues. that is really their job. really not their job. >> yes. and i very much take on board that point and is , as you board that point and is, as you know, when suella braverman was the home secretary, she actually ordered a review into the it was called the proportionality review into police officers. and chief constables and how they manage their police force and

the amount of time that they are spending, for example, on hate crimes. also, whether or not it's appropriate for police officers to have taken the knee and how they should be proportionately , uh, policing proportionately, uh, policing certain sort of events, festivals, protests, as well, to make sure that there is no police bias shown by the police . police bias shown by the police. um, and the proportionality review , uh, is has not yet review, uh, is has not yet concluded . but the really key concluded. but the really key thing for police and the reason why they almost went from one extreme to another in terms of their response hate crimes their response to hate crimes and showing that there was no bias by taking the knee or having rainbow painted police cars is because the inspectorate that oversees police forces is very impactful. it literally can make or break a police officer's career. now, if you go to the equivalent in, um, in councils, for example, the local government ombudsman , or you go government ombudsman, or you go to some of the other public sector um ombudsman's that oversee those departments. um, they are they don't quite have they are they don't quite have the teeth that his majesty's inspector constabulary has .

inspector of constabulary has. hnic. and i think that's why you've seen such a shift like, you've seen such a shift like, you know, a surge in reaction when, when things are happening in the national space and police forces are trying to a pace forces are trying to keep a pace in complicated world. in a very complicated world. >> you. donna. >> okay. thank you. donna. really interesting. donna jones there. hampshire police and crime commissioner , thanks for crime commissioner, thanks for your this morning. your time this morning. >> spend much time, your time this morning. >> they, spend much time, your time this morning. >> they, philip? much time, your time this morning. >> they, philip? on much time, your time this morning. >> they, philip? on computer e, don't they, philip? on computer screens hate crime, screens looking for hate crime, police . that's why we screens looking for hate crime, police see . that's why we screens looking for hate crime, police see enoughhat's why we screens looking for hate crime, police see enough of 's why we screens looking for hate crime, police see enough of them! we on don't see enough of them out on the beat. they do. >> and to honest, mean, the beat. they do. >> got to honest, mean, the beat. they do. >> got to police nest, mean, the beat. they do. >> igot topolice and. mean, the beat. they do. >> igot topolice and crimean, i've got a police and crime commissioner west yorkshire, commissioner in west yorkshire, tracy brabin, the regional mayor. wants them all to mayor. she she wants them all to log all these non—crime hate log all of these non—crime hate incidents. the clue's in incidents. i mean, the clue's in the non—crime. incidents. i mean, the clue's in the on non—crime. incidents. i mean, the clue's in the on earth non—crime. incidents. i mean, the clue's in the on earth are non—crime. incidents. i mean, the clue's in the on earth are norpolicee. what on earth are the police doing with non—crime ? she wants doing with non—crime? she wants to make misogyny a crime , and so to make misogyny a crime, and so they're going to be tied up with all this of stuff instead all this kind of stuff instead of burglaries. of investigating burglaries. so politicians they of investigating burglaries. so politofans they of investigating burglaries. so politofans the they of investigating burglaries. so politofans the police they of investigating burglaries. so politofans the police to they of investigating burglaries. so politofans the police to do 1ey sort of push the police to do all . virtue all this nonsense. virtue signalling, of dealing signalling, instead of dealing with crime . the with actual proper crime. the other thing i would say is there's a there's a terrible culture within the police, be culture within the police, to be perfectly honest and it's a debilitating culture where they

feel that it's better not to make a bad decision than it is to good decision. and to make a good decision. and police are petrified police officers are petrified that if they if they make a decision something goes decision and something goes wrong mistakes wrong and we all make mistakes and officers are and the police officers are bound mistakes, they bound to make mistakes, they feel they a feel that if they make a mistake, to mistake, they're going to be left to dry. they'll left hanging out to dry. they'll probably jobs and probably lose their jobs and whatever. they spend whatever. and so they spend a hell a lot of in hell of a lot of time, in effect, covering their own backs. actually making a backs. not actually making a positive , but just positive decision, but just doing everything to cover their own back. it's completely wasting of just in wasting loads of time just in case goes wrong. and case something goes wrong. and we've change culture we've got to change that culture as ask you about nicola >> can we ask you about nicola sturgeon at public inquiry sturgeon at the public inquiry yesterday into covid? she of course deleted all her whatsapp messages and miss granite melted and she cried flippin crocodile tears . were you moved to see the tears. were you moved to see the former first minister crying as she talked about how difficult it was to be first minister dunng it was to be first minister during covid? >> no not really. no, no, i can't say. i can't say i was screeching, i can't say i was no, look, i mean the other one, love. >> i mean, i think, uh covid brought out the worst in

politicians to be perfectly honest. >> and, and those of us who voted against all the restrictions and lockdowns and all rest of were all the rest of it who were vilified time for doing vilified at the time for doing so, i feel day we get we so, i feel every day we get we feel and more vindicated feel more and more vindicated and i think nicola sturgeon was probably the worst of them all, because it seems to me, and i could a terrible could be doing a terrible disservice. but it seems to me that making decisions that she was making decisions for political reasons, not not even decisions for the even making decisions for the best the country. but she was best of the country. but she was making decisions just because she might be some she thought there might be some petty political advantage to best or to best boris johnson, or to exactly . to divide exactly. or to find a divide with england for her nationalist agenda. with england for her nationalist agenda . and for me, that's agenda. and for me, that's completely unforgivable. and the thing nicola sturgeon , thing is, for nicola sturgeon, she's rumbled, been she's been rumbled, she's been found she's completely found out she's completely finished politician and her finished as a politician and her reputation has been trashed and i suspect the tears were more because that because anything. >> knows over . >> she knows it's over. >> she knows it's over. >> she knows it's over. >> she didn't like being held to account yesterday, did she? at all. deeply satisfying, all. it was deeply satisfying, as you say, for anybody that's been trying to point out, even at the time, that these decisions were being made in

at the time, that these dec best; were being made in at the time, that these dec best interests being made in at the time, that these dec best interests ofeing made in at the time, that these dec best interests of the made in at the time, that these dec best interests of the public in the best interests of the public because easy to because, of course, it's easy to forget decision ins forget that her decision ins were then, know, there were were then, you know, there were no better down here in westminster because her decisions particularly about decisions, particularly about masking in schools, were masking kids in schools, were then inspiring as we know, the bofis then inspiring as we know, the boris johnson, boris johnson and his cohort at the time , michael his cohort at the time, michael gove and co, the 4 or 5 of them they were reacting to what she was doing to look tougher. >> i know it was it was ridiculous. >> it was. i agree. no, it was it was a shameful period. to be honest. think history will not honest. i think history will not be politicians be kind on the politicians who voted for all of that kind of stuff. but look, the problem is that nicola sturgeon is being held she was . held to account. she never was. when she first minister, she when she was first minister, she used a free run. you used to get a free run. you know, there was there was never any what any real proper scrutiny of what she she walked on water. >> and she walked on water. >> and she walked on water. >> the media in scotland has quite lot to answer they quite a lot to answer for. they they were. they were, they were, they were. they really give the they didn't really give the scrutiny should scrutiny that they should have done her she's not done to her regime. she's not been to it. and this is been used to it. and this is probably time she's probably the first time she's ever scrutiny . ever faced any proper scrutiny. >> ask you before >> let me just ask you before we let you go. alan bates. he is the symbolic face of the dispute

with he's told with the post office. he's told to the telegraph the offer. to tell the telegraph the offer. he's finally had compensation he's finally had of compensation is derisory and cruel. his words, not mine . they've offered words, not mine. they've offered him a sixth of what he thought he might be entitled to. they've got haven't got to get this right, haven't they, philip? yeah, they've got to fujitsu got to start to. fujitsu have got to start digging into their pockets digging deep into their pockets and they've coughed a and they've not coughed up a penny and they've not coughed up a per no. absolutely. is >> no. absolutely. this is a biggest of justice biggest miscarriage of justice i can remember from my time in politics. and it's got to be sorted out. it's got to be sorted out. it's got to be sorted out. it's got to be sorted out swiftly . the sorted out swiftly. the compensation to be compensation has got to be appropriate . but i mean, look, i appropriate. but i mean, look, i don't know what asked don't know what he's asked for. so i mean, we so i don't know. i mean, we obviously in obviously don't live in a situation where, you know, however badly you've been wronged, whatever wronged, you give them whatever you for. don't know you ask for. so i don't know whether what he's asked for is reasonable or unreasonable. i don't, but but don't, i don't know, but but clearly he there's been a terrible miscarriage of justice and the government, the post office who between office and fujitsu who between them make sure that them have got to make sure that thatis them have got to make sure that that is put right properly and quickly. >> fujitsu is saying they're not going to give any money until the inquiry is finished. going to give any money until thpublic inquiry is finished.

going to give any money until thpublic inquiry,y is finished. going to give any money until thpublic inquiry, philipiished. a public inquiry, philip apparently, going until 2026. apparently, is going until 2026. why it take five years to why does it take five years to do a public inquiry in this country? covid one be country? the covid one will be even agree. do we even longer, i agree. why do we do it? so what? >> i've know it's a junket, isn't it, for lawyers . the isn't it, for the lawyers. the lawyers? really is. lawyers? i mean, it really is. it's we it's completely unacceptable. we have got to. got we've have got to. we've got we've got. trouble is you see, got. the trouble is you see, for the you if they the government, if you if they start saying inquiries start saying to the inquiries that oh, we've got that are set up, oh, we've got to in x amount of time, to do it in x amount of time, whatever say. you're whatever they'll say. oh you're interfering and interfering in the process and you're you know, interfering in the process and you're not you know, interfering in the process and you're not letting ou know, interfering in the process and you're not letting us know, interfering in the process and you're not letting us getn, interfering in the process and you're not letting us get to the bottom of everything. so the government ends up in a difficult because difficult position because it you what are you know, it looks for what are they hide by they trying to hide by curtailing can't they trying to hide by curtaiithese can't they trying to hide by curtaiithese public can't they trying to hide by curtaiithese public inquiries. allow these public inquiries. the covid ones are an absolute disgrace. and this one is similarly a disgrace. we've got to sharpen our act up. >> do. thank you. phil great >> we do. thank you. phil great to talk to you as always . right. >> we do. thank you. phil great to tato to you as always . right. >> we do. thank you. phil great to ta to to you we always . right. >> we do. thank you. phil great to tato to you we are iys . right. >> we do. thank you. phil great to tato to you we are no. right. >> we do. thank you. phil great to tato to you we are no closer. still to come. we are no closer to sending migrants to rwanda but italy. meloni. she she's cracked it. you won't believe where they're sending people for processing. don't miss it. this is britain's newsroom on gb news, the people's channel. >> a brighter outlook with box

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bobbies on the beat. >> have you heard that before? i think i have the home secretary, james cleverly. he set out his vision to get back core vision to get back to core policing. asking you this policing. we're asking you this do you still safe on the do you still feel safe on the streets of britain . and farmers streets of britain. and farmers protest in europe? >> this is live pictures we're watching here of the farmers protesting in brussels this morning. it says as a summit of eu leaders is taking place, taking place later today. we're seeing a line of police, um, full helmets , riot gear, full helmets, riot gear, basically braced for action. >> it's the tractors, the back and no big tax cuts. the chance of jeremy hunt says he's unlikely to have. what is the new buzz phrase? the headroom in to implement any large tax cuts. we've got a budget coming up in march. those tractors are right outside the european parliament building, which if you haven't seen, is hideous. it's a really

horrible building. it's called the berlaymont. it's disgusting andifs the berlaymont. it's disgusting and it's all part of this. >> that's not why they're there. >> that's not why they're there. >> no, but it's all part of the growing protest across europe, >> no, but it's all part of the gr< poland, otest across europe, >> no, but it's all part of the gr< poland, holland oss europe, >> no, but it's all part of the gr> no, but it's all part of the gr> no, but it's all part of the gr> yeah, yeah. taking away farmers land. put solar panels >> yeah, yeah. taking away farthere.and. put solar panels >> yeah, yeah. taking away farthere. i'm put solar panels >> yeah, yeah. taking away farthere. i'm not solar panels >> yeah, yeah. taking away farthere. i'm not sure r panels >> yeah, yeah. taking away farthere. i'm not sure anynels >> yeah, yeah. taking away farthere. i'm not sure any of.s >> yeah, yeah. taking away farthere. i'm not sure any of us on there. i'm not sure any of us have for that have have voted for that have we. >> trees. >> more trees. >> more trees. >> let us know your >> yeah. let us know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com >> yeah. let us know your th0|email vaiews@gbnews.com >> yeah. let us know your th0|email address@gbnews.com >> yeah. let us know your th0|email address that1ews.com >> yeah. let us know your th0|email address that and.com >> yeah. let us know your th0|email address that and am >> yeah. let us know your th0|email address that and a lot the email address that and a lot more this morning. first though, the latest with sam the very latest news with sam francis . francis. >> bev and andrew thank you very much and good morning from the gb newsroom. it'sjust gone gb newsroom. it's just gone 10:00 the latest developments in our top story this morning, a 31 year old woman and a three year old girl have potentially life changing injuries following an acid attack in london. the

woman's other daughter has also been injured, along with five police officers and three other women who were injured after coming to help that family. no arrests. we understand, have been made so far , but police are been made so far, but police are appealing for anyone with information of the attack to come forward. the police force in london believes the mother and the suspect are known to each other , and they say it each other, and they say it appeared to be a targeted attack. officers from across the met are working with partner agencies and forces to locate and arrest that man , and arrest that man, conservative minister laura trott told gb news earlier that the government has put more police on the streets to stop these kinds of crimes. >> attacks like this horrific one that we've seen show exactly why this is so important. crime is always been an absolute priority the conservative, priority for the conservative, andifs priority for the conservative, and it's one, you know, you've just today . the and it's one, you know, you've just today. the home just seen today. the home secretary, cleverly, is secretary, james cleverly, is really emphasising the importance of having police officers we're officers on the beat. we're increasing police we increasing police numbers. we want they're out want to make sure they're out there difference to there and making a difference to people's when all in the

people's lives. when all in the last half hour or so we've heard that the fire brigades union has announced a settlement of £20 million for firefighters that were injured in the grenfell tower disaster. >> the union reports that 114 firefighters had brought claims against the companies responsible for cladding on the building, and the borough of kensington and chelsea. the blaze in 2017, which was the uk's deadliest since world war two, claimed 72 lives. the pubuc two, claimed 72 lives. the public inquiry is set to release its final report later this year . the government is preparing to fast track two key pieces of legislation through the commons that are aimed at delivering on the stormont deal. the first piece will underline the government's commitment to northern ireland's position within the uk, and the second measure aims to end routine checks on goods from britain to northern ireland that were brought in after brexit leader . brought in after brexit leader. of the dup sir jeffrey donaldson says that the new laws will mean his party can end their boycott of sharing and hundreds of

of power sharing and hundreds of farmers are protesting outside the eu headquarters as tensions continue to rise over better working conditions . these here working conditions. these here for those watching on tv, are live pictures of riot police in the distance lining the streets outside eu parliament buildings in belgium. that comes as , uh, in belgium. that comes as, uh, they, uh , excuse me, that comes they, uh, excuse me, that comes as , as, uh, france has been at as, as, uh, france has been at the centre of a growing dispute across europe with tens of thousands of farmers across poland, belgium , italy and poland, belgium, italy and germany calling for environmental rules to be relaxed . and they're also relaxed. and they're also calling for help to deal with rising costs . a 44 year old man rising costs. a 44 year old man here in the uk will appear in court charged with the murders of two teenage boys in bristol . of two teenage boys in bristol. a 15 year old mason rist and 16 year old max dixon were stabbed on saturday night and later died in hospital . eight people have in hospital. eight people have been arrested as part of that

investigation, with five others still in police custody . a still in police custody. a conservative mp has said that he is too scared to carry on in his role , and will stand down at the role, and will stand down at the next general election after receiving threats to his own safety. justice minister mike freer received a series of death threats and suffered an arson attack on his constituency office. mr freer, who served as the mp for two london seats since 2010, said it was time to say enough as he could no longer put his family through the anxiety . it's now a criminal anxiety. it's now a criminal offence to own an xl bully dog in england and wales without an exemption certificate. unregistered pets will be seized and owners could face fines or prosecution . the ban follows a prosecution. the ban follows a series of attacks for some fatal attacks involving xl bullies last year, around 40,000 animals were expected to have been registered before the deadline yesterday. mark harborough , from yesterday. mark harborough, from the national police chiefs council , is the national police chiefs council, is urging the public to report any dog sightings that

may match the breed's description. >> we've had to train our neighbourhood officers, our community support officers to ensure that they're vigilant and they're aware of what they're looking out for. people who are walking this type of dog fit in this that isn't on a this description that isn't on a lead, isn't muzzled, isn't neutered . it isn't with a 16 neutered. it isn't with a 16 plus person , um, is plus aged person, um, is committing an absolute offence. so our officers are aware of this and we'll make sure that the appropriate action is taken . the appropriate action is taken. >> the former subpostmaster, who led the campaign for justice in the post office scandal, has this morning rejected the government's compensation offer . government's compensation offer. alan bates, whose two decade fight inspired the itv series mr bates versus the post office, says that the offer from the government is offensive and cruel. the government had pledged a full and fair compensation for those affected by the. it scandal in 2020. however, bates told the telegraph newspaper that the offer was only around a sixth of

what he had requested and called it a terrible way to treat human beings . greta thunberg is beings. greta thunberg is appearing in court this morning for a public order offence after protests in london last year. the 21 year old campaigner has arrived at westminster magistrates court a short time ago she was arrested during the demonstration in mayfair in october last year as oil executives were meeting for the energy intelligence forum. greta and four other activists had pleaded not guilty. in november to blocking the entrance to that meeting . and in some breaking meeting. and in some breaking news just coming to us here in the gb newsroom, donald trump's data protection claim over allegations that he took part in what were described as perverted sex acts and giving bribes to russian officials, has been, we understand, dismissed by a high court judge, the former us president's claim for distress and reputational damage was brought by him against orbis

business intelligence, a consulting firm that was founded by former mi6 officer christopher steele. he was the author of the so—called steele dossier, which included allegations that mr trump, the former us president, had been compromised by the russian security services . this, the security services. this, the firm, says that trump's claim, though, is harassment . and for though, is harassment. and for more stories and those latest lines coming to us, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. right now , or by going to right now, or by going to gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> very good morning. thank you for getting in touch at home. you have been telling us that you don't feel particularly safe on the streets, especially in the evening, says deborah. i would like to see all the town police stations reopened for 24 hours. will be great and hours. that will be great and manned properly as a safe haven. varne plus daily police officers

in pairs, the streets, in pairs, walking the streets, getting the local residents. >> you even see. actually >> you don't even see. actually very a police car doing very often a police car doing the rounds almost never. and where i live in north london, what you see more and more now are private security cars driving which driving round and round, which is where residents have obviously of their out obviously despaired of their out of burglaries. you live in of burglaries. you must live in a very posh area, andrew pierce. they my street, they don't come down my street, has said. they don't come down my street, hasbut said. they don't come down my street, hasbut said right, they don't come down my street, hasbut saidright, because >> but you're right, because basically say, these estates sort like you say, these estates sort of gated communities. yeah. who can own security can employ their own security services they've services because they've obviously they've given up on the police. >> used to have a bobby >> we used to have a bobby on the part of london. the beat in my part of london. he fat chap, very and he was a fat chap, very fat. and we to joke, um, you'd have we used to joke, um, you'd have to him the to to roll him down the hill to chase the burglar, but least chase the burglar, but at least you and people him. chase the burglar, but at least you was and people him. chase the burglar, but at least you was (community him. chase the burglar, but at least you was (community copper.n. and he was a community copper. he's and he's obviously retired and not been replaced. he's obviously retired and not bee oh, placed. he's obviously retired and not bee oh, placeiwell you what he's obviously retired and not bhave, placeiwell you what he's obviously retired and not bhave to .aceiwell you what he's obviously retired and not bhave to say?vell you what i have to say? >> going to try and provide >> i'm going to try and provide a little balance here because what onto usually, what i have got onto usually, well, an abiding balance. no, i do, to, but also do, i like to, but i also i don't want us to be bashing the police. no, i agree with that because job. i mean, because i love my job. i mean, thank for the police thank goodness for the police and want that and people who want to do that job, what been got

job, right? what i've been got at recently is a at getting into recently is a local website, local neighbourhood website, and on our local bobbies will on their our local bobbies will go they will say on there go on and they will say on there today arrested some thugs who today we arrested some thugs who were stuff from co—op or were nicking stuff from co—op or whatever it is, they will whatever it is, and they will actually say on there and that's quite nice as a local resident. and say, i will be at and then they say, i will be at this time in this area by the station, to come and station, if you want to come and say i mean, it's moving say hello, i mean, it's moving with and not with the times and not everyone's have the, everyone's going to have the, you to on you know, inclination to go on to see at to a website to see it, but at least they're communicating with the local people. like that, least they're communicating with the what people. like that, least they're communicating with the what peoplywasike that, least they're communicating with the what peoplywas an that, experiment. >> i remember when have >> i remember when you'd have a police actually in police officer actually based in a estate, have police officer actually based in a desk estate, have police officer actually based in a desk in estate, have police officer actually based in a desk in the estate, have police officer actually based in a desk in the corner have police officer actually based in a desk in the corner and have police officer actually based in a desk in the corner and it have police officer actually based in a desk in the corner and it wase a desk in the corner and it was an experiment. i don't know why it it seemed it didn't work because it seemed to important. the idea to me really important. the idea of that. they do it a lot in america. >> stephen said, would >> um, stephen said, what would make safe? visibly make me feel safe? visibly seeing our seeing more police on our streets. need massive streets. we need a massive recruitment this recruitment of police in this country. we also need the police, be crime is police, not to be woke. crime is rising, so the number of police needed than eve r. >> even >> get them off the screens and on the streets. but is it is it an appealing job to youngsters anymore? leave school, anymore? if you leave school, university, know like university, you know you like boasting. turner, boasting. beverley turner, so

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eight and three, are in hospital with injuries. uh, the women , with injuries. uh, the women, the injuries to the woman and the injuries to the woman and the are the younger child are potentially changing it potentially life changing and it seems the in seems just the latest in a string of violent crimes, doesn't it? >> living in a lawless >> so are we living in a lawless britain with home secretary >> so are we living in a lawless britaincleverly me secretary >> so are we living in a lawless britaincleverly even acretary >> so are we living in a lawless britaincleverly even admitting james cleverly even admitting that crimes that rates for solving crimes were too low? do you feel were far too low? do you feel safe on our streets ? let us know gbviews@gbnews.com. >> in the last few minutes, the police have released this statement the manhunt and statement about the manhunt and the acid incident. and they say we believe the man and woman are known to each other, are investigating, is in its early stages. we're working to establish this awful establish why this awful incident officers incident has happened. officers from are working from across the met are working with and forces with partner agencies and forces to arrest the man. to locate and arrest the man. while this appears, a targeted attack , he's dangerous and we attack, he's dangerous and we urgently to him. urgently need to find him. we're going go talk ray. going to go to talk to ray. addison. let's go to ray. addison. yeah. let's go to ray. ray they're clearly very worried about this . ray. about this. ray. >> morning you both . yeah, >> morning to you both. yeah, absolutely . we've seen that absolutely. we've seen that statement now in the last 20 minutes or so. we now know that the mother and her two young daughters are among 12 people

who injured in that attack who were injured in that attack last night here in lambeth , near last night here in lambeth, near to clapham common. the substance, police say, was alkaline, which was thrown over the mother and her children , the mother and her children, then subsequently injured as well. eyewitnesses, people who came to their aid and also five responding police officers . now responding police officers. now the woman, who is aged 31, and her two daughters aged eight and three, all remain in hospital and the police say that while none of their conditions are life threatening, the injuries to the woman and to the youngest girl could be life changing. now of course, this all took place here in leicester avenue just before 730 last night . before 730 last night. eyewitnesses reporting that . the eyewitnesses reporting that. the mother and her children had been with a man. they got out of the vehicle and began fighting in the street. the suspect then reportedly took the reportedly took a child, the youngest child the vehicle, youngest child from the vehicle, and her the ground and slammed her into the ground twice. the man then threw this substance, which has now been

identified by the met police, as alkaline . after testing over. alkaline. after testing over. the woman and her children , the woman and her children, eyewitnesses could hear the mother screaming that she was unable to see me and then reports unconfirmed , seemed that reports unconfirmed, seemed that the man may have then got into the man may have then got into the tried to run the the car and tried to run the woman over, but we've also heard reports from police that when he was trying to make off, he struck another vehicle before eventually making off on foot. and we'll attempt to clarify and so we'll attempt to clarify that you as we get more that for you as we get more information throughout the day. now, as i said, bystanders did come to aid of the mother come to the aid of the mother and her children , one spraying and her children, one spraying her with water in some kind of attempt to ease the effects of that alkaline on her. those burns, um, some, as i said, became injured themselves in the process of that . um, five of the process of that. um, five of the victims having to be taken to a major trauma centre . now, as you major trauma centre. now, as you were saying, guys, the met police are saying that they do believe the man , that the believe that the man, that the attacker are known attacker and the woman are known to each other. um, three other

women, two in their 30s and one in her 50s, who were injured when they came to the aid of the family, all been family, have now all been discharged from hospital with minor burns. another man in his 50s, who received minor injuries , declined to hospital . , declined to go to hospital. five officers were injured as they responded. they've now been treated and left hospital as well. across the met, officers are working together with partner agencies. that and other forces to try to locate and arrest this man. they do say that this appears to have been a targeted attack. they stress that he is dangerous and they say that they urgently need to find him. they do say that he tried to take off in a car , tried to take off in a car, collided with a vehicle and then made off on foot in the direction of clapham common, which is down the road here. um, they say the man and the woman are known to each other. the investigation is in its early stages and they're working to establish why . why this establish exactly why. why this

awful, horrendous incident has happened. awful, horrendous incident has happened . they're also appealing happened. they're also appealing to anybody . who may have had, um to anybody. who may have had, um , footage from their from their mobile phones or from their vehicles to urgently get in touch with the police . touch with the police. >> okay. thank you. ray radison there in clapham as the police hunt for that man . we told you hunt for that man. we told you we'd been trailing this story about how italy have solved their illegal migrant crisis . we their illegal migrant crisis. we will be talking about that in a little while. so stay with us for that. but first, sam, let's just hear political the expi'ess. >> express. >> sam daily express. sam, >> sam at daily express. sam, the home secretary, was at the national policing council yesterday. home yesterday. he's a new home secretary. he's not the first home since 2010 to home secretary since 2010 to say, let's return to core policing. let's get more bobbies on the beat. let's have more visibility. let's get coppers off the screens pursuing ridiculous hate crime . i'm not ridiculous hate crime. i'm not saying it's ridiculous, but it's disproportionate. the amount of time spending on it. time they're spending on it. let's not have five coppers pursuing down oxford pursuing a woman down oxford street she's singing street because she's singing hymns. for heaven's sake . but

hymns. for heaven's sake. but why . we were talking to philip why. we were talking to philip davies about it, he said. but in the end, it's operational. decisions are the decisions are taken by the police, home secretary decisions are taken by the policemake home secretary decisions are taken by the policemake honbutzcretary decisions are taken by the policemake honbutzcretarisa can't make them. but there is a sense the have lost sense that the police have lost their this country after sense that the police have lost theyears this country after sense that the police have lost theyears of this country after sense that the police have lost theyears of tory country after sense that the police have lost theyears of tory rule. try after sense that the police have lost theyears of tory rule. whyfter sense that the police have lost theyearstheyory rule. whyfter sense that the police have lost theyearsthey sortedz. whyfter sense that the police have lost theyearsthey sorted it?ihyfter haven't they sorted it? >> think the problem is when >> i think the problem is when you look back when the you look back to when the conservative government came in, the government , the coalition government, initially, a time of initially, that was at a time of austerity. obviously, insignia cuts were made to the police service. >> theresa may. >> theresa may. >> yeah. and um, and i suppose if you take out all those experienced police officers as although now they have restored those numbers, you are not you've lost all that capability, all that knowledge, all that experience. and i think that's been a really big problem for the i think the police. i think neighbourhood policing has gone in of fashion throughout in and out of fashion throughout my entire journalistic career . my entire journalistic career. it's all the rage. one minute it's the next. and think it's not the next. and i think consistency a part of consistency is a big part of this. you know, if you decide neighbourhood do neighbourhood police to do neighbourhood police to do neighbourhcwith it. and got to stick with it. and actually lot intelligence actually a lot of intelligence comes having those people comes from having those people

based the community. um, but based in the community. um, but i think one of the biggest problems police have is problems the police have got is that actually most problems the police have got is th.their actually most problems the police have got is th.their day actually most problems the police have got is th.their day is actually most problems the police have got is th.their day is ac doing most of their day is spent doing essentially social work. that's right. and this is a really big problem. and i think for police officers think officers actually, i think police out police officers want to get out there catch there and actually catch the criminals, bogged there and actually catch the crimirwith bogged there and actually catch the crimirwith work. yogged down with social work. >> talked serving police >> i've talked to serving police officers me , they officers who say to me, they won't come air and talk about won't come on air and talk about it. can spend whole day it. they can spend a whole day trying to get a homeless person, some shelter. yeah, that's not their job. some shelter. yeah, that's not theirjob. not it's not. >> it really isn't. >> it really isn't. >> because the >> that's because of the collapse and all >> that's because of the collrest�* and all >> that's because of the collrest of and all >> that's because of the collrest of it. and all >> that's because of the collrest of it. they've and all >> that's because of the collrest of it. they've goti all >> that's because of the collrest of it. they've got toll the rest of it. they've got to be pulled away from all of that. >> and think but >> yeah. and i think that. but thatis >> yeah. and i think that. but that is a really huge thing because there have because actually and there have been, suella braverman because actually and there have been, an suella braverman because actually and there have been, an attempt.la braverman because actually and there have been, an attempt.la move 'man because actually and there have been, an attempt.la move police made an attempt to move police priorities from dealing priorities away from dealing with, for example, mental health problems, but actually , if you problems, but actually, if you have some kind of mental health incident in the community, and the police are the people that are called out to deal with that, they can't away that, they can't walk away from that. it's very difficult to walk that. so you walk away from that. so you know, it's a very difficult problem the police. it's the problem for the police. it's the changing of policing is

changing nature of policing is vast. and how you write that in a short amount of time is quite a short amount of time is quite a difficult ask, actually . a difficult ask, actually. >> um, it's labour party >> um, it's the labour party annual business conference today. >> yawn. why are we all here? >> yawn. why are we all here? >> why are we even here? >> why are we even here? >> you're. you normally say. but it's a labour government in waiting , and it's apparently waiting, and it's apparently oversubscribed , isn't it? oversubscribed, isn't it? >> it is, i think, uh, thousand pounds of tickets. wow. and those tickets sold out in four hours. these are big ceos of hours. and these are big ceos of big companies. these are important, powerful people. and not all of those ceos are managed to get a seat at the table. so here we are. we've got smith. >> this rachel reeves here. >> this is rachel reeves here. who the first who would be the first radio. >> shadow chancellor >> she's the shadow chancellor she the first woman she will be the first woman chancellor. rishi, um, chancellor. unless rishi, um, gets hunt. she's gets rid of jeremy hunt. she's the you're not sure who the one. if you're not sure who she a dalek . she sounds like a dalek. >> little unkind . >> that's a little unkind. >> that's a little unkind. >> andrew pierce, it's >> now, andrew pierce, it's a completely accurate observation. >> listen to. >> so, should we listen to. should to bit should we listen to a little bit ? and you can decide whether she sounds dull, it like or not. let's a little. listen. i'm let's take a little. listen. i'm more likely to benefit from investment in british business and at home. and infrastructure here at home. >> she said the word

exterminate. and exterminate. you'd think and yes, putting aside the culture war dividing lines to forge a closer relationship with our nearest neighbours and allies and ease the bureaucratic burdens on business. >> what i'm getting at is a slightly robotic manner. our plans for economic success. >> her sister, who's a frontbencher two elianne reeves. yeah, and if she's on the radio it's impossible to tell which one's which . one's which. >> yeah, absolutely. they do sound very very similar. but i think for rachel reeves you know, has , know, this is a woman who has, um, made it her mission to make labour kind sane , um, labour the kind of sane, um, credible party that it appeared to be under blair. uh, it to project that image again after obviously the corbyn era, when obviously the corbyn era, when obviously their policies were quite , uh, shall we say, quite, uh, shall we say, leftfield, anti—business. um, and so she's worked really hard on that and it's clearly paid off if top people are off because if top people are paying off because if top people are paying money, paying all that money, i mean, the conservative party has to be worried about that is worried about that. that is a real them. real problem for them. >> she's not before >> and she's not just before this all this conference with all the blue bosses that blue chip business bosses that actually on bankers

actually the cap on bankers bonuses, lifted by the bonuses, which was lifted by the tories, which said they tories, which labour said they would back, she's changed would bring back, she's changed her and this very >> yeah. and this is very interesting obviously interesting because obviously they've been accused of hypocrisy of course. hypocrisy over this of course. but actually i think quite but actually i think it's quite a win for them because they get to do attacks evil to do all the attacks on evil tories for , you promoting tories for, you know, promoting the bankers, getting rid the the bankers, getting rid of the bankers but they bankers bonus. but then they just to, um, just quietly allow that to, um, to so they kind of keep to remain so they kind of keep the city happy well. the city happy as well. >> and she was in davos, of course, had a room course, and had a packed room there spoke in davos. there when she spoke in davos. >> yeah. i think, know, >> yeah. so i think, you know, the actually the fact that actually big businesses are gravitating towards , the towards rachel reeves, the conservative party need to be worried about that. >> course her >> and she's of course her background pure business. background is pure business. she's former she worked at the she's a former she worked at the bank of england. >> england. she's >> bank of england. yes she's she's um , very she's a very credible um, very credible and she, you credible person. and she, you know, clearly she has a kind of gravitas that not necessarily all that frontbench on the labour side. dup mean, thinking of . hahaha. labour side. dup mean, thinking of. hahaha. i wouldn't like to name names. i'll leave your viewers to tell you . viewers to tell you. >> i bumped into you the other day. angela rayner, the deputy leader of the labour party, because andrew because when you think andrew

gwynne, think gwynne, you don't normally think gravitas funny, gravitas. but she is very funny, very charming and very engaging and actually , i think, know, and actually, i think, you know, in she , she, she perhaps in a way she, she, she perhaps is the kind of lee anderson of the labour party and parties need those people . need those people. >> they need people who actually can people. can connect with normal people. yeah, actually yeah, yeah, people can actually think are human and have a bit of levity because clearly you're not going to get levity from rachel not going to get levity from racso why do you >> so she said, why do you always terrible things always write terrible things about i said, lots people about me? i said, lots of people write about you. write terrible things about you. >> apparently >> and the thing is, apparently rachel reeves very funny. in rachel reeves is very funny. in real a friend who real life, i have a friend who knows said knows very well, and she said she's funny around knows very well, and she said sibottle funny around knows very well, and she said sibottle atjnny around knows very well, and she said sibottle at the! around knows very well, and she said sibottle at the pta. |nd knows very well, and she said sibottle at the pta. but a bottle of wine at the pta. but she said she's being very she said she's just being very careful. cannot upset careful. she cannot upset anybody. um, you know, anybody. she's um, you know, quite very careful. >> yeah, yeah. i hosted a lunch with her. she she gave very, with her. she she gave a very, very funny she had very funny speech. she had people really, genuinely laughing. side. you laughing. yeah. not a side. you see know, on the tv see on the, you know, on the tv screens, but i think you're absolutely right. she has to be so careful they've any so careful if they've got any chance off. yeah chance of pulling this off. yeah both her and keir starmer have to incredibly careful. quite to be incredibly careful. quite bonng to be incredibly careful. quite boring all the way up until the

election . election. >> so boring. election. >> thanking. election. >> thank you sam . good to see >> thank you sam. good to see you as always. now still to come donald claims over donald trump's legal claims over allegations donald trump's legal claims over alle actsyns donald trump's legal claims over alleacts in donald trump's legal claims over alle acts in russia donald trump's legal claims over alleacts in russia has been sex acts in russia has been dismissed by a uk court. this sex acts in russia has been dismissed by a uk court . this is dismissed by a uk court. this is britain's newsroom on gb news was

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andrew pearson bev turner. >> so coming up, nicola sturgeon's crocodile tears . sturgeon's crocodile tears. we'll be discussing that moment at the covid inquiry. there she is , looking all tearful about is, looking all tearful about the she had make the fact that she had to make decisions now knows decisions which she now knows were wrong. were completely wrong. >> think she's >> who does she think she's kidding? pull the other one nicola. first, bank nicola. but first, the bank of england to hold england is expected to hold interest for fourth interest rates for the fourth time today. time in a row today. >> what does this mean for us? for now for you at home. joining us now is halligan in the studios. is liam halligan in the studios. tell us what does this mean for is liam halligan in the studios. telthen,vhat does this mean for is liam halligan in the studios. telthen, liam?yes this mean for us then, liam? >> think bank of >> i think today the bank of england rates england will keep interest rates on . add the base rate is on hold. add the base rate is 5.25, but unusually , mortgage 5.25, but unusually, mortgage rates now are going below the bank of england's base rate. why is that? because mortgage rates reflect expectations about where interest rates are going to go . interest rates are going to go. if you get a two year fix, a five year fix, that's why mortgage rates now are going below the base rate on some deals. i do think interest rates are going to come down in the months to come. we had 14 rises. let's have a look at a graph if we can, because it wouldn't be a liam studio on liam halligan studio spot on the

money. sting . money. even without the sting. if there wasn't a graphic, would it? see it? maybe we can see the graphic. there is. the graphic. and there it is. the magic of television and are we going to see the line? and here it comes. maybe. yeah, there it goes. a little caterpillar goes. like a little caterpillar across screen see during goes. like a little caterpillar acrosslockdown,1 see during goes. like a little caterpillar acrosslockdown, interests during goes. like a little caterpillar acrosslockdown, interest rates1g covid lockdown, interest rates went 0.1. we went all the way down to 0.1. we then had a staircase of rate rises, 14 successive rate rises, all the way up to 5.25, where they have been since the summer in relation has come down a lot . in relation has come down a lot. it's come down from 11% at the back end of 2022 to 4% now, but that's still double the bank of england's 2% target. >> it did go up last month and it went up just infinitely nearly a supasorn a smidgen from 3.9 to 4. >> i think that was a blip. it could go up again when the number for january comes out later month, the later this month, because the ofgem cap has gone ofgem energy price cap has gone up. but look, history doesn't happen a straight line. the happen in a straight line. the general inflation is general trend of inflation is down. that's why i do think general trend of inflation is down.going; why i do think general trend of inflation is down.going to 'hy i do think general trend of inflation is down.going to get do think general trend of inflation is down.going to get successive we're going to get successive interest rate cuts from 5.25% starting in april or may, after

the budget. that's why the tories are playing the long game. if rishi sunak can hold on to power, hold on to his government, then he's going to government, then he's going to go as long as he can before the general election because he thinks interest rate cuts will generate a feel good factor . the generate a feel good factor. the cost of living crisis still very acute for a of our viewers acute for a lot of our viewers and listeners , will ease, and listeners, will ease, and the tories might have a fighting chance least not chance of at least not humiliating over the humiliating themselves over the next general election history. >> liam, back in 97, when the tories were going into they've been 18 years, been in power for 18 years, smashed to pieces in that election. and yet when they were going into that election, the economy very, very well. >> they gave ken clarke gave well. >> blairey gave ken clarke gave well. >> blairey g'gordon clarke gave well. >> blairey g'gordon brown gave well. >> blairey g'gordon brown an ve tony blair and gordon brown an incredible an incredible inheritance, an incredible inheritance, an incredible legacy of a growing economy. uh fiscal situation. the public finances were in good order. and of course, labour were able to milk that for the next ten years. what about the pubuc next ten years. what about the public finances now? what about tax cuts? jeremy hunt, the chancellor, is out there managing expectations like crazy. he knows his own

backbenchers are gunning for tax cuts. the tax burden at a 70 year high. we saw a tax cut. it came in this month. national insurance, national insurance going from the main rate from 12 to that's worth about £450 a to 10. that's worth about £450 a year for the average worker. better than a kick in the teeth. they want another lower interest rate tax cut in this budget. on march the 6th. and then maybe another lower tax cut in an autumn statement before a general election . that's their general election. that's their strategy. so what's going to happen sixth? hunt happen on march the sixth? hunt is there's not nearly is saying there's not nearly enough room to taxes as i enough room to cut taxes as i thought was. but he is thought there was. but he is just trying to manage expectations . so when the expectations. so when the under—promising so when under—promising and so when there's a medium sized tax cut, he i'm a genius. i'm he says, i'm a genius. i'm a genius. look borrowing genius. look at the borrowing numbers. december , right numbers. in december, right in the the uk government the december the uk government borrowed about 4 or £5 billion. right that's way lower than . right that's way lower than. december 2022. what did the obr say the uk government was going to borrow in december ? not 4 or to borrow in december? not 4 or 5 billion. they said 11.6

billion. always get it right. that's over that's how incredibly over gloomy they were . and yet jeremy gloomy they were. and yet jeremy hunt, as we speak , will now be hunt, as we speak, will now be in a, you know, some kind of dance of the seven veils with the office for budget responsibility. are you going to let me cut taxes , or if i do cut let me cut taxes, or if i do cut taxes, are you going to start briefing the press and start saying irresponsible i am? saying how irresponsible i am? that's what they do. so then the markets go nuts as which is what happened under liz i happened under liz truss. i think powerful. the think they're too powerful. the obr as a as obr and i say that as a as a highly economist, i highly qualified economist, i think there are two cognitively we um , similar there's not we um, similar there's not enough diversity of thought within the office for budget responsibility. >> very little echo chamber. we are not thanks to you liam liam halligan there now still to come ursula, we are here new storm isha. we'll be live from brussels with the latest on an angry european farmers protest right outside that hideous old european parliament building. >> the tractors are there. they don't like the eu. they don't

like their environmental diktats. and the rush to net zero. >> right. first, though, here's your the latest news, the very latest news with sam francis . latest news with sam francis. bev and andrew. >> thank you very much. it's just gone 1030 our top story this morning, a 31 year old woman and a three year old girl have potentially life changing injuries following what appears to have been a targeted acid attack in the capital. her other daughter has also been injured , daughter has also been injured, along with five police officers and three other women who were injured after coming to help the family know . arrests we family know. arrests we understand have been made so far, but a manhunt is underway for the suspect, who is believed by police to be known to the mother . officers from across the mother. officers from across the metropolitan force are working with partner agencies. they say, to locate and arrest the man , to locate and arrest the man, the fire brigades union has announced a settlement of £20 million for firefighters who were injured in the grenfell

tower disaster , for the union tower disaster, for the union reports that 114 firefighters brought claims at the high court against companies responsible for cladding on the building and in the borough of kensington and chelsea. the blaze in 2017, which was the uk's deadliest since world war two, claimed 72 lives. the public inquiry is set to release its final report later this year. the government is preparing to fast track two key pieces of legislation through the commons aimed at delivering on the stormont deal. the first piece will underline the government's commitment to northern ireland's position within the uk and the second measure aims to end the routine checks on goods from britain to northern ireland that were brought in after brexit leader of the democratic unionist party , sir jeffrey donaldson, of the democratic unionist party , sirjeffrey donaldson, said , sir jeffrey donaldson, said the new laws will mean his party can now end their boycott of power sharing . and these are power sharing. and these are live pictures coming to us as hundreds of farmers in brussels

protest outside the eu headquarters as tensions rise over better working conditions that they're calling for . it that they're calling for. it comes as france has been at the centre of the growing dispute with farmers across europe, as tens of thousands of workers staged demonstrations in germany and poland , belgium and in italy and poland, belgium and in italy . the farmers are calling for environmental rules to be relaxed and they're also asking for help to deal with rising costs . and in the last hour , costs. and in the last hour, donald trump's data protection claim over allegations that he took part in what were described as perverted sex acts and that he gave bribes to russian officials, have been dismissed by a high court judge. the former us president's claim for distress and reputational damage was against orbis business intelligence. that's a consulting firm that was founded by former mi6 officer christopher steele. he was the author of the so—called steele dossier, which included allegations that mr trump had also been compromised by the

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question posed by our very own chris hope. >> she's the most damaging thing you could do is to promise tax cuts that end up crashing financial markets and sending mortgage rates soaring, which is what the conservatives have done.i what the conservatives have done. i will never make that mistake. you. i'm going to mistake. thank you. i'm going to take a question from jim pickard at the ft . at the ft. >> shadow chancellor in the autumn of 2021, you announced that you were going to conduct a review of every single tax break in britain. and because you said there were too many loopholes for business. now of course, business will welcome your . business will welcome your. >> well, that was rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor, just to remind you, she will be our first chancellor. first ever woman chancellor. this . if, as it looks this jacket. if, as it looks likely, general likely, labour win the general election. talking at the labour's conference, election. talking at the labo out conference, election. talking at the labo out in conference, election. talking at the labo out in four conference, election. talking at the labo out in four hours,arence, election. talking at the labo out in four hours, £1,000 a sold out in four hours, £1,000 a ticket, she was responding to chris political chris hope. our political edhon chris hope. our political editor, the editor, and she's making the point they wouldn't promise point that they wouldn't promise tax which the are tax cuts, which the tories are promising, be promising, which can't be delivered . delivered. >> have delivered. >> you're gutted to have left that business live. conference on your andrew covered. >> or 2 of in my time, >> 1 or 2 of those in my time, and the word dull springs time.

what is not dull, though, are these . if you're listening these. if you're listening on these. if you're listening on the got these the radio, we've got these extraordinary the radio, we've got these extraordinaitheir tractors farmers on their tractors protesting in brussels outside the european parliament. it's as a summit of eu leaders is taking place. we're going to speak to a journalist who's right there in brussels. next, you're with britain's on

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gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> thank you forjoining us. so european farmers are continue ing blockade paris ing their blockade around paris over falling incomes, competition from cheap imports and drive towards net zero and the drive towards net zero which is affecting their working practices. >> now there's big protest in brussels outside the european parliament. so the editor in chief brussels report, peter chief of brussels report, peter klepp, joins us now from brussels . peter, good morning brussels. peter, good morning to you . um, they are angry you. um, they are pretty angry these farmers, little fires they lit outside the european parliament. it's all to coincide with a summit of eu ministers. what are they objecting to? principally . principally. >> well, in a nutshell, i think the differences are , are um, are the differences are, are um, are there, you know, for every country there are different grievances . but the core concern grievances. but the core concern isindeed grievances. but the core concern is indeed european, uh, uh, green policies and the european green deal , the farm to fork green deal, the farm to fork strategy , basically all kinds strategy, basically all kinds of, uh, central planning, extra central planning that is imposed

upon farmers, uh, from , uh, from upon farmers, uh, from, uh, from brussels . brussels. >> and they're actually burning stuff outside the european parliament. peter. it's a pretty dramatic protest . dramatic protest. >> yes, absolutely . they've even >> yes, absolutely. they've even torn down, uh, one of the statues in front of the of the european parliament, the main square there. so, yeah , i mean, square there. so, yeah, i mean, i think, um, we should , uh, keep i think, um, we should, uh, keep in mind that the, the common agricultural policy, the eu's agricultural policies have been pragmatic for years after the war, they had a massive oversupply nation. as a result, there was, you know, excess production that they were then dumping on world markets. um, in response to that . but, um, they response to that. but, um, they have changed the system over the years. but they have ended up supporting , uh, farmers directly supporting, uh, farmers directly , uh, without a link to production, which is possibly even , uh, even crazier to the even, uh, even crazier to the point that today, um, around , point that today, um, around, uh, you know, uh, 80% of the

money is only going to 20% of the, of the farmers , the big the, of the farmers, the big farms, of course. and peter , farms, of course. and peter, this is about what they're protesting about . protesting about. >> and the reason it's had this domino effect across the whole of is this idea that it's of europe is this idea that it's this, as you say, we've had the biggest in biggest transfer of wealth in the four years, it's the last four years, and it's this this, from the this top, this, this from the bottom up. they feel that all the money being pushed up. so the money is being pushed up. so the money is being pushed up. so the are left with the farmers are left with smaller and smaller margins where at the where the corporations at the top getting incredibly top are getting incredibly wealthy . it's of wealthy. it's a kind of traditional blue collar protest. this isn't it. it's the sort of thing that the left political left used to love. and yet the political left are lining up to call these people right wing . call these people right wing. and if you go on to some media sites, these protesters are being described as right wing protesters . do you understand protesters. do you understand where that kind of labelling is coming from and how inaccurate it is ? it is? >> well, it's definitely inaccurate . um, you know, it's inaccurate. um, you know, it's i think it's very elitist to dismiss the concerns of these

people. uh, for example , one of people. uh, for example, one of the requirements that has now been dropped, um , that the eu is been dropped, um, that the eu is planning to impose is that, uh, a small percentage of their land , uh, could not be used for farming or not for intense , uh, farming or not for intense, uh, farming. so all kinds of, uh , farming. so all kinds of, uh, micromanagement. i mean, the political party of emmanuel macron, the french president , macron, the french president, until today, uh, refuse to reopen some of the european green deal , reopen some of the european green deal, uh, legislation that has only just been passed to just give you an idea how, uh, the political mainstream is not not picking this up, um, the same is true in my own country, belgium , in the netherlands. uh, belgium, in the netherlands. uh, for the nitrogen requirements . for the nitrogen requirements. these are also ultimately also the result of the fact that , um, the result of the fact that, um, if you have as a country designated, uh, nature reserves as, uh, vulnerable , you have to as, uh, vulnerable, you have to keep this, uh, forever and ever, and you cannot change it anymore . um, so, so this kind of

inflexible be imposed from the top down through the courts, but ultimately from the eu level. that's really what the farmers are angry about. >> yeah. okay. thank you. peter. peter clip there. um, in brussels. >> well, got carole malone in studio with us. >> and also nichi hodgson. >> and also nichi hodgson. >> hi to you both . uh, they'll >> hi to you both. uh, they'll be talking brexit next. carol farmers fourth anniversary yesterday. do you know what? >> that's one protest i could get behind and join. you know, all the eco protests i'm not really interested in. they're talking that may talking about something that may or 20, 30, 40 or may not happen in 20, 30, 40 years this is something years time. this is something that's our farmers years time. this is something that'snow. our farmers years time. this is something that'snow. and our farmers years time. this is something that'snow. and confessfarmers right now. and i confess i didn't think much about farmers livelihoods until i that livelihoods until i know that this might sound a bit light, but until i watch clarkson's farm and until i realise how little profit these guys make, how hard they work are up at the crack of dawn and they're working all the hours god sends and the profit they make is it's pitiful. minuscule . and the pitiful. it's minuscule. and the eu rules are trying to choke even that. and i think , you even that. and i just think, you know, it's i would join this

protest a heartbeat. and you protest in a heartbeat. and you are to point out this are right to point out this stuff about them being right wing. how dare they slate them as these as right wing when these, these are are real people whose are these are real people whose livelihoods are a lot of people who work in the farm industry. >> malone get paid very little money. >> the good agricultural workers are very badly paid. >> get paid nothing. >> they get paid nothing. pierce. you know the pierce. and you know the profits, on clarkson's profits, i think on clarkson's farm, somewhere that farm, i read somewhere that i saw you it like saw that when you sell it like a sheep, sheep's skin . yes. it's sheep, a sheep's skin. yes. it's £0.30 or something. you £0.30 or something. and you think, what? yeah. and so you wonder how they can manage it. and i think after a year, clarkson a handful clarkson made a handful of pounds like £90 profit pounds. he made like £90 profit or something whole year working. >> but carol makes a really good point, though, doesn't she, nicki, about this idea that we eat, supermarket eat, we go to the supermarket gates, we shop there, we eat our food, don't often give it food, we don't often give it a thing, and the farmers have become by this become so frustrated by this idea they are respected i >> absolutely. i mean, they're running effectively running what are effectively small businesses, often family businesses that have been passed down through generations. they also the land and also tend to know the land and the anyone the animals better than anyone else areas . you know, i

else in those areas. you know, i am all for green protests . you am all for green protests. you know, for climate change know, i'm all for climate change activism actually only activism. but actually the only way you can do that is a gradual . it's exactly what we've seen with port talbot . you know, you with port talbot. you know, you can't just go and say, you're can't just go in and say, you're not to do it anyway not going to do it anyway anymore. not going to do it anyway anyitlore. not going to do it anyway anyit this way and to do it this way and start to steal yes exactly. steal things. yes exactly. you've this way. you've got to do it this way. instead, you know, lots of farmers board with farmers are on board with protecting , but they farmers are on board with proteydo g , but they farmers are on board with proteydo it , but they farmers are on board with proteydo it overnight. , but they farmers are on board with proteydo it overnight. you've1ey can't do it overnight. you've got yeah. so got to give them time. yeah. so they're , you know, they're protesting, you know, they're protesting, you know, they're no farmers, no they're saying no farmers, no food. any food. well, you can't get any more these environmental protests. you're not one of these >> you're not one of these closet supporters of stop closet supporters of just stop oil, closet supporter. >> i think i've been i've been quite open about stop oil. quite open about just stop oil. i don't like all their methods, but message of but i do like the message of them. appreciate the them. but i do appreciate the message. sometimes message. yeah, but sometimes you've difficult things. >> what they're asking for. now, those are those protesters are unrealistic. what these protesters are asking for is not unrealistic. >> no, i would agree with you, carol. yes. >> here today. >> here today. >> yes. and it's now it's happening now. yeah >> um, right. talking about establishing the anti—establishment as the farmers are, we talk about farmers are, shall we talk about nicola sturgeon?

>> , um, she was crying yesterday. >> nikki , in the covid inquiry. >> nikki, in the covid inquiry. yes did you feel incredibly sorry for her? what a tough time she's had. >> not terribly. i mean, she was probably crying out of shame. let's she's let's be honest. i mean, she's she's out of the she's crying out of the embarrassment downfall of embarrassment of the downfall of her. and, uh, the snp , um, you her. and, uh, the snp, um, you know, know, people do know, people you know, people do cw know, people you know, people do cry when things are bad for them, but not necessarily because, you know, they feel that they're put upon. that they're being put upon. she probably exactly probably knows herself exactly what she's done. and, you know, it's the stand. what she's done. and, you know, it's she the stand. what she's done. and, you know, it's she made the stand. what she's done. and, you know, it's she made it the stand. what she's done. and, you know, it's she made it reallyand. what she's done. and, you know, it's she made it really clear what >> she made it really clear what she giving her evidence. she she was giving her evidence. she said everything she did, she did with very best of with the very best of intentions, she did not. intentions, and she did not. thatis intentions, and she did not. that is simply not true . you that is simply not true. you don't delete whatsapp messages with the very best of intentions . you don't buy burner phones with the very best of you. do that hide what you're doing. that to hide what you're doing. and woman was crying, and and this woman was crying, and i think it was quentin think it was it was quentin in—let's in your paper said today she's crying she today she's crying because she knows it's the knows she's finished. it's the end. this is a woman who had end. and this is a woman who had her the moral high her bomb on the moral high ground for so long, looking down

at the tories, slagging them off, calling immoral, off, calling them immoral, calling what they did wrong and bad. she and she's bad. and here she was. and she's she yesterday. and this she denied yesterday. and this is what really in my craw. is what really stuck in my craw. she the that snp she denied the fact that the snp used the pandemic as a way to boost the quest for independence, when we know there is paperwork that exists to say they absolutely did that and it was working because it was supporting ganaches and was going up. >> yes. and she was using those daily conferences . daily press conferences. >> and she was >> yes, on tv. and she was always comparing herself favourably to boris. >> of course, she's helping bofis. boris. >> she's announcements. yeah. boris. >> she' she nouncements. yeah. boris. >> she' she also cements. yeah. boris. >> she' she also called:s. yeah. boris. >> she' she also called boris|h. boris. >> she' she also called boris a >> and she also called boris a disgrace to public office. well what is she. called her what is she. she called her having every whatsapp. what is she. she called her havthis every whatsapp. what is she. she called her havthis problem.1atsapp. what is she. she called her havthis problem. if:sapp. what is she. she called her havthis problem. if you ). >> this is the problem. if you take ground, >> this is the problem. if you take be ground, >> this is the problem. if you take be first ground, >> this is the problem. if you take be first to ground, >> this is the problem. if you take be first to fallnd, >> this is the problem. if you take be first to fall on you'll be the first to fall on your backside. that your backside. it's that simple, isn't know, don't do isn't it? so, you know, don't do it unless your house is in perfect it unless your house is in per halo's gone rusty . >> halo's gone a bit rusty. >> halo's gone a bit rusty. >> this is what >> well, she. this is what happens consumed happens when you're consumed by an which is nonsensical. >> it was never going to work. it was never going to happen. and yet she's brought scotland to in this quest, at to its knees in this quest, at this silly quest of hers. you know, everything

know, look at everything that's happening scotland, happening in scotland, the health the education. health service, the education. it's all in a mess. thanks to this quest for the quest for independence , you won't forget ehhen >> scotland has the worst drugs death rate from drug deaths, drug deaths in the whole of europe, goes every yean >> nhsis yean >> nhs is on its knees. their education, the education system which before the snp into which before the snp got into power fantastic. was power, was a fantastic. it was better than ours. they got better than ours. they got better results than us. it's a mess now. mess how. >> mess now. >> now, um, talking of eco warriors, thunberg . yes, warriors, greta thunberg. yes, she arrived at westminster magistrates court, then nicky did she? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> remind us what she's in trouble for. well, this is to do with the protest that she was at last year. >> she was arrested >> um, she was arrested during a demonstration, and was demonstration, and it was outside intercontinental outside the intercontinental intercontinental outside the intercontinental intercon. nental outside the intercontinental intercon. and,1l outside the intercontinental intercon. and, uh, she with a mayfair. and, uh, she with a group of other people tried to block the entrance to the conference. now, that is considered an offence. it's under the public order act, which is from 1986. but we've updated it recently. you know, obviously, making obviously, we've been making protest laws more, uh, stringent . and so, you know, the law is

there. she has effectively broken the law, but she's pleading not guilty now. mean, broken the law, but she's pleiactually: guilty now. mean, broken the law, but she's pleiactually on|ilty now. mean, broken the law, but she's pleiactually on side1ow. mean, broken the law, but she's pleiactually on side1ow. meinl, i'm actually on side with her in the guilty pleading because the not guilty pleading because i we've gone way i do think that we've gone way too our laws against too far with our laws against protest. um, but i don't see how she's going to get away with it because law is quite because the law is quite obviously there . and it states, obviously there. and it states, it states very, very obviously what is i just don't know why she's given so much currency. >> you know, this i'm kind of i want protests arrested and want these protests arrested and i want them tried. however this one i don't particularly because this what she wants. this is exactly what she wants. yes, this makes her a bigger yes, she this makes her a bigger heroine than was . if she heroine than she was. if she goes, not sent to goes, she will not get sent to jail. but she did get sent to jail. but if she did get sent to jail. but if she did get sent to jail that's followers are jail, that's her followers are going. greta, i think, going. yeah, greta, i think, i think wish this had been held think i wish this had been held in camera. this case, i wish we hadnt in camera. this case, i wish we hadn't known about it and had been secretly. she wouldn't been done secretly. she wouldn't have done well, she probably have done it. well, she probably wouldn't it. and wouldn't have done it. and that's point. she would that's my point. she would have pleaded guilty and got it out the wants this pub. the way. but she wants this pub. i look at all. at i mean, look at it all. look at them. they're the court. them. they're outside the court. she her she wants this. this makes her a bigger than was. bigger heroine than she was. >> herself, isn't? >> martyring herself, isn't? >> martyring herself, isn't? >> much currency. >> she got so much currency. why is started this.

is because she started as this. what it is to do with what she thinks it is to do with party is to do with her age. >> it was unusual to have a child that was so precocious and, knowledgeable. and, you know, so knowledgeable. and disagree with her and maybe you disagree with her opinions change, and maybe you disagree with her opinionswas change, and maybe you disagree with her opinionswas very change, and maybe you disagree with her opinionswas very knowledgeable but she was very knowledgeable about was talking about what she was talking about. people love her. about. young people love her. they figure to up they like a figure to look up to. that seems to be taking an act you know, people act against, you know, people that are what calls climate that are what she calls climate change . change deniers. >> she's weird. do you not feel nikki? >> i feel insufferable. >> i feel insufferable. >> well, she is, i think she is a and i've never seen >> well, she is, i think she is a never and i've never seen >> well, she is, i think she is a never seen i've never seen >> well, she is, i think she is a never seen the; never seen >> well, she is, i think she is a never seen the girl/er seen >> well, she is, i think she is a never seen the girl laugh n >> well, she is, i think she is a never seen the girl laugh . i've never seen the girl laugh. >> do , i do >> recommendation. i do, i do think she is on. >> i do think she is on the autistic spectrum and that's well asperger's. so well known with asperger's. so the laughing might be something to do that. to do with that. >> point wanted to make >> the point i wanted to make was do think she's been was i do think she's been manipulated by a lot of the adults her. adults around her. >> her parents crazy >> both her parents are crazy eco of the eco activists. a lot of the people her too, and people around her are, too, and i think she's been indoctrinated by think she's by them. and i think she's fighting their by them. and i think she's fightingwhich their by them. and i think she's fightingwhich not their by them. and i think she's fightingwhich nottheirshe behalf, which is not fair. she hasn't behalf, which is not fair. she has did behalf, which is not fair. she hasdid she ever go to. >> did she ever go to. >> did she ever go to. >> well, she well, she did early on, hasn't years . on, but she hasn't for years. >> i mean, of course she's clever. mean, clever. yeah, i mean, yeah, i mean, the thing though, look,

clever. yeah, i mean, yeah, i mean, tichangei though, look, clever. yeah, i mean, yeah, i mean, tichange is though, look, clever. yeah, i mean, yeah, i mean, tichange is real. gh, look, climate change is real. >> there are some disastrous things happening already, you know, melting know, like the polar ice melting temperature of all the earth going you we're seeing going up. you know, we're seeing physically we're seeing climate migrants country, migrants come to our country, the people the state of bangladesh, people who used to live by the coast. now have been now their homes have been subsumed we've now their homes have been sub because we've now their homes have been sub because they we've now their homes have been sub because they can't we've now their homes have been sub because they can't just we've now their homes have been sub because they can't just stayve got because they can't just stay underwater. got move underwater. they've got to move somewhere what trying to somewhere. so what i'm trying to say that got all somewhere. so what i'm trying to say problems at got all somewhere. so what i'm trying to say problems that got all somewhere. so what i'm trying to say problems that are got all these problems that are absolutely . they're a absolutely happening. they're a direct of climate change, direct result of climate change, and protests. direct result of climate change, ancit's protests. direct result of climate change, ancit's not protests. direct result of climate change, ancit's not making protests. direct result of climate change, ancit's not making itotests. direct result of climate change, ancit's not making it anyts. better. >> just we t" t“ >> we just we just want to say that greta thunberg is not here to defend over her to defend herself over her parents, over accusations of being . being crazy. >> don't mean crazy >> now. well, i don't mean crazy in sense. i just meant. in that sense. i just meant. >> but more of ideology that >> but more of an ideology that i think she's been indoctrinated i >> -- >> who would deny that greta thunberg is not weird? >> , yeah, lots of people. >> well, yeah, lots of people. >> well, yeah, lots of people. >> we've got to move on. >> we've got to move on. >> we've got to move on. >> we need to bring you quiet for an hour, guys. >> we will. we will have round two in a little while. now. gb news understands that people news understands that 12 people have been injured this acid have been injured in this acid attack been talking attack that we've been talking about in london last night, a massive a massive manhunt is under a brighter outlook with boxt

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>> shocking . and get on talking >> shocking. and get on talking of crime , get bobbies on the of crime, get bobbies on the beat. you heard that before . the beat. you heard that before. the home secretary, james cleverly, is set out his vision to get back to what he calls core policing. you this policing. we're asking you this simply you feel safe on simply this. do you feel safe on the britain and poor pace? >> post office payout. the former subpostmaster alan bates says he will reject a derisory post office scandal compensation offering from the government. we'll be talking to one of the lawyers who represented some of those postmasters just next judnh those postmasters just next judith raanan and the xl bully ban. >> it starts today. it becomes a criminal offence today in england and wales. if a certificate of exemption has not been applied for, what's going to happen to the dogs that are unregistered . unregistered. let us know your thoughts this morning. >> gbviews@gbnews.com is the email address we're going to crack on now straight away with

the news with sam . the news with sam. >> beth. andrew. thank you very much and good morning from the gb news room. our top story at 11, a 31 year old woman and a three year old girl have potentially life changing injuries following what appears to have been a targeted attack in london. a man threw a corrosive substance at the mother and her children , mother and her children, injuring them along with five police officers and three other women who were injured. after coming to help the family. no arrests have been made so far , arrests have been made so far, but we understand a manhunt is now underway for the suspect, who is believed to have been known to the mother officers from across the metropolitan force are working with partner agencies , as they say, to locate agencies, as they say, to locate and arrest the man . and arrest the man. >> attacks like this horrific one that we've seen show exactly why this is so important. crime has always been an absolute priority the conservative, priority for the conservative, andifs priority for the conservative, and it's one, you know, you've just seen today . the home just seen today. the home secretary, cleverly, secretary, james cleverly, is really emphasising the

importance police importance of having police officers beat with officers on the beat with increasing police numbers. we want sure they're out want to make sure they're out there and a difference to there and making a difference to people's . people's lives. >> as we've been hearing the fire brigades union has announced of £20 announced a settlement of £20 million for firefighter. those that were injured in the grenfell tower disaster. that were injured in the grenfell tower disaster . the grenfell tower disaster. the union reports that 114 firefighters have brought claims against the companies responsible for the cladding on that building, and the borough of kensington and chelsea . the of kensington and chelsea. the blaze in 2017, which was the uk's deadliest since world war two, claimed 72 lives. the pubuc two, claimed 72 lives. the public inquiry is set to release its final report later this year . the government is preparing to fast track two key pieces of legislation through the commons aimed at delivering on its stormont deal. the first piece will underline the government's commitment to northern ireland's position within the uk, and the second measure aims to end the routine checks on goods from britain to northern ireland that were brought in after brexit. leader of the dup sir jeffrey

donaldson says that the new laws will now mean his party can end their boycott of power sharing . their boycott of power sharing. hundreds of farmers are protesting outside the eu headquarters as tensions continue to rise over better working conditions . these are working conditions. these are live pictures from the scene as riot police line the streets outside the eu parliament buildings . outside the eu parliament buildings. it comes as france is at the centre of the growing dispute spreading across europe, with tens of thousands of farmers staging demonstrations in germany, in poland, belgium and in italy. they're calling for environmental rules to be relaxed, and they're also asking for help from governments in their countries to deal with rising costs . a 44 year old man rising costs. a 44 year old man here in the uk will appear in court, charged with the murders of two teenage boys in bristol . of two teenage boys in bristol. 15 year old mason rist and 16 year old max dixon were stabbed on saturday night and later died in hospital in the early hours

of sunday. eight people have been arrested as part of the investigation, with five others still in police custody . in still in police custody. in other news, a conservative mp says he's too scared to carry on in his role and will stand down at the next general election after receiving threats to his own safety. justice minister mike freer received a series of death threats and suffered an arson attack on his constituency office. mr freer, who served as the mp for two london seats since 2010, said it was time to say enough as he could no longer put his family through the anxiety in the last half . hour anxiety in the last half. hour or so. the chancellor has said she will not commit to ending what she calls the fiscal drag thatis what she calls the fiscal drag that is pulling more in that is pulling more people in to paying income tax and to pay. paying income tax and higher in her speech to higher rates in her speech to labour's business conference, rachel reeves has pledged she won't make any commitments that are fully costed or fully are not fully costed or fully funded . sir keir starmer is also funded. sir keir starmer is also expected to speak later, which we will bring to you live here

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injuries to the woman and younger child potentially life changing and the police have released this statement. >> in just the last few moments. we and woman are we believe the man and woman are known each other. our known to each other. our investigation is in its early stages and we're working to establish this awful establish why this awful incident has happened. >> from across the incident has happened. >> are from across the incident has happened. >> are workingom across the incident has happened. >> are workingom apartnera met are working with partner agencies and forces to locate and arrest the while this and arrest the man. while this appears, targeted attack, appears, a targeted attack, police dangerous and we police say it's dangerous and we urgently need to find him. >> so cross to >> so let's cross over to ray addison, in south london addison, who is in south london with the latest ray , this is with the latest ray, this is this detail we presumed this new detail we presumed presumed it was an acid attack, which is more common in these sorts of situations. and now we're hearing it's an alkali attack. do we know quite what the police mean by that? and what specific substance it might have ? have been? >> now, we know that the police took away samples of the corrosive substance that was thrown over the victim's last night, and they've tested it and come back that it was an alkaline substance. and you can

see on the road just behind me, marks that may have been that substance where it was thrown. then also a rather damp patch where london fire brigade have tried to water down on the road to try and wash away any signs of that dangerous substance in an attempt to further protect the public. i'm sure we'll be getting more details on exactly what that substance was, and the impact that it's had throughout the day. we do know, however , the day. we do know, however, that the mother, a two young children, were are subject to that attack. the mother , aged that attack. the mother, aged 31, her daughters , eight and 31, her daughters, eight and three, all remain in hospital. and whilst we're told that none of the conditions are life threatening, the injuries to the to the mother and her youngest daughter could be life changing. we are told. of course , the we are told. of course, the impact that will have upon them for the rest of their lives is very concerning . we know it took very concerning. we know it took place last night at around 725. police were called to lesser avenue. it's a quiet residential

street. um near in lambeth, or rather near clapham common and eyewitnesses are saying that the mother and the child or the children had been attacked by the man. they got into a fight in the street and eyewitnesses came to try and help them and come to their aid . bell come to their aid. bell ribeiro—addy is labour mp for streatham and she says police are going to be here throughout the day to try and reassure people of their safety . people of their safety. >> people right across the community are shocked and deeply saddened to hear what's happened. obviously our thoughts, prayers and concerns are with all of them. very pleased to know that those that came to their aid and the police, who also were first to the scene that came into contact with the substance , have all with the substance, have all been cleared. so they are they are all fine and as you can see behind me, the emergency services have gone to great lengths to make sure that they've washed any substance that may be left on the road, that may be left on on the road, so one harm. we want to

so no one is at harm. we want to assure people in the local area that are. they are that they are. they are perfectly safe. there are additional to additional patrols around to help make sure that people feel safe, but this is a horrible and quite specific attack, and we hope that with all of the information the police now information that the police now know it, this individual, know about it, this individual, that catch him soon. that they will catch him soon. >> now, while police say that this does appear to have been a targeted attack, and in that sense, so to speak, an isolated inset instance, they have stressed that this this individual is extremely dangerous . they're working with dangerous. they're working with partner agencies to try to track him down. we know that he he tried to disappear on foot on in the car. he crashed the car and then had to make off on foot in then had to make off on foot in the direction of clapham common, just down the road. they do say that the investigation is in its early stages, but they're urging the if you've dash the public if you've got dash cam you've got cam footage, if you've got mobile footage , please mobile phone footage, please do get touch police . get in touch with the police. >> okay. thank you very much, ray. mp was talking ray. uh, the mp that was talking there ribiero addy.

there is bell ribiero addy. >> she's the local constituency mp. >> it seems like the people, the other people who were hurt in this passers—by. was this are passers—by. there was a bus driver, people , other family bus driver, people, other family members and then members came to help. and then i think they've touched the children and alkaline and children and the alkaline and have well , let's hope have had well, let's hope they find this is find him because this man is dangerous. >> so we'll keep you up to date on because that manhunt is on that because that manhunt is underway. joins in the underway. when joins us in the studio as the barrister samples sam. um, crime is not your area, but is we we've been but this is we we've been talking in the programme throughout the programme of throughout the programme are of the britain . do the streets of britain. do people on the streets people feel safe on the streets of home secretary, of britain? the home secretary, james talking last james cleverly, talking last night to night about how he wants to return policing . don't return to core policing. don't they say that? and nothing they all say that? and nothing seems to happen. >> well, good line, isn't >> well, it's a good line, isn't it, politicians to say we it, for politicians to say we want to want to get back to bafics >> but the i don't think you actually can combat things like acid attacks by getting back to bafics acid attacks by getting back to basics, because this is a crime that's been on the rise in, in britain and particularly in london over the past five years. but it's not a crime that you can deal with just by having

more people on the street because it happens so quickly. it's a crime of opportunity. what you need deal with is what you need to deal with is the social causes of it. and this is acid attacks are a crime of misogyny. they're about men trying to exercise control over women by reducing them to their looks. and then destroying those looks. and then destroying those looks. and then destroying those looks. and it's only by addressing that that we're going to be able to address the crime itself. >> how do you address that ? >> how do you address that? >> how do you address that? >> well, i think you need to look at why misogyny is so rooted and growing in society. we saw a poll just, just, just today that amongst 16 to i think 30 to 29 year olds. so the younger demographic would identify with misogynists like like andrew tate and would describe themselves as anti—feminist . but and you now anti—feminist. but and you now have, have this sort of culture where of being a misogynist is seen as a way for sort of online social clout. but, um, that's not the only issue. there's obviously deep rooted problems of misogyny in society, but

until we can address those issues, then you're still going to see men using whether it's acid attacks or alkali attacks or something else, to just try and enforce their power over women. yeah >> and you've got a lot of young, young men with very low self—esteem. unfortunately many who've had a school system which has rarely challenged them, they've rarely had lose in they've rarely had to lose in competitions at school because it's everyone. and it's a medal for everyone. and we're the believe we're we're seeing the i believe we're seeing the results that sort seeing the results of that sort of now now with a lot of culture. now now with a lot of culture. now now with a lot of very thin skinned, actually young men who think that they're . going to their status in lives will improve if they put women down. yeah, definitely. that >> can we talk about alan bates? he's the. is the man who he's the. yes. he is the man who we everybody knows who alan bates because itv bates is now because of the itv drama bates versus the post drama alan bates versus the post office, rejected the offer office, he's rejected the offer he's had from the post office of compensation. he's been fighting for years and years. said. for years and years. he said. it's one sixth of what he asked. we know what he asked for, we don't know what he asked for, but he said the offer. interesting sam. interesting word to you, sam. derisory you derisory and cruel. now you

represented all of these postmasters. were aware that postmasters. were you aware that when you were looking after the post, sort of offers the post, what sort of offers the post, what sort of offers the post was making? were post, what sort of offers the post they was making? were post, what sort of offers the post they getting aking? were post, what sort of offers the post they getting anywhere re post, what sort of offers the post they getting anywhere near were they getting anywhere near what postwomen what the postmen and postwomen deserved ? deserved? >> well, i know this since then, so when i represented them it was overturning their convictions . so setting them up convictions. so setting them up to get the compensation , what to get the compensation, what we're seeing now with the compensation is it's not just that it's getting derisory, giving derisory amounts, it's that the process for getting that the process for getting that compensation is horrendous. it's essentially retraumatizing post office workers and they're being asked to fill in these enormous forms. i think 14 pages of form. you have to fill in. you're not allowed a lawyer to do that. you don't get a lawyer until afterwards . and these until afterwards. and these were isn't appalling ? isn't that appalling? >> it's outrageous. >> it's outrageous. >> and these lawyers should be taken through every step of that, every page. >> well, need them right at >> well, you need them right at the start. >> p- p“ the start. >> tax think needle the start. >> tax associates, 1eedle the start. >> tax associates, he's.e from tax policy associates, he's one leading tax lawyers one of the leading tax lawyers in world ad. and he said in the world ad. and he said there's no way would touch

there's no way i would touch this a, without out this form without a, without out a because there a lawyer. and because there could away their could be signing away their rights to money in the future or something because they're not lawyers and are they're lawyers and they are and they're being, asked to being, they're being asked to only do things like only apply for what's called consequential damages. using all damages. and they're using all this technical what it this technical language, what it really your really means is damage to your reputation . and the form says, reputation. and the form says, oh, you can only apply for damage your reputation , even damage to your reputation, even if direct financial if it's caused direct financial damage to you. that's not right at all. and any lawyer would be just a big red pen just ticking a big red pen through that. >> it doesn't matter people >> it doesn't matter if people in village you were in your village thought you were a unless you can a thief. unless you can demonstrate a tangible financial impact on you from the village thinking you were a thief. yeah, the emotional damage in and of itself, they say, is worth nothing. we're not going give nothing. we're not going to give you for that. nothing. we're not going to give youthat's for that. nothing. we're not going to give youthat's that'sthat. nothing. we're not going to give youthat's that's certainly the >> that's that's certainly the impression being given. >> and then and then there's, it's money of them paid it's the money some of them paid out to to go away out to, to, to get it to go away , but also the loss of earnings . , but also the loss of earnings. sam is a hugely important . sam is a hugely important. >> absolutely. and you know some

of these people it's the whole lives i mean alan bates it's 20 years of his what's the years of his life. what's the what is what's the amount you'd earn that time. and earn over over that time. and you you know, that's you see you know, that's hundreds if not and the property some of them had to sort of leased or own of leased or own some of the properties they the properties that they ran the post offices in. >> who owned those >> those who owned those properties would seen properties would have seen an increase of those increase in the value of those properties over that 20 years. and on and on and on. yeah, it should be. it should actually be a simple calculation in a fairly simple calculation in terms a loss of earnings for terms of a loss of earnings for some these people . um, do you some of these people. um, do you have any idea of any sort of sums which have been offered to the this? the victims of this? >> obviously >> yeah, there's obviously there's huge range , but some there's a huge range, but some of the extremes are pretty extreme . and there's, there's extreme. and there's, there's report that one person got £15, 75 in compensation . 75 in compensation. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> what a book of stamps. >> what a book of stamps. >> yeah. well barely, barely that now these days. >> guy who had >> yeah. another guy who had a stroke as a result of the stress that it caused him got £1,500, and that was £1,500. after nearly losing his his life. >> and, sam, i've know all this

great respect for the legal profession, but you probably know where i'm going here. beanng bearing in mind you're a barrister. office barrister. but the post office brought barrister. but the post office br0|lawyers to crush these cat lawyers to crush these postmasters and post mistresses in their fight for to get proper compensation . and of course, compensation. and of course, that their their bill is being effectively picked up by the tax payer because the post office is a public institution . a public institution. >> and it was i think it was right that proper lawyers , right that proper lawyers, highly competent lawyers argued the case, and the case was argued properly . so i don't have argued properly. so i don't have argued properly. so i don't have a problem with that. what i do have a problem with is that the same sort of generosity and the same sort of generosity and the same level of resources now, the post office have clearly lost that fight is not being expended to make good that loss. and it's not got much coverage today . not got much coverage today. >> but fujitsu, who up to their neck in it, of course it was their horizon it system. and we know that the boss who was before the commons select committee, admitted a moral responsibility and a financial responsibility. they're saying, oh no, we're not paying up until the public inquiry is finished.

we're expecting that end. we're not expecting that to end. sam, some of those sam, till 2026, some of those postmasters and pcs will be dead i >> -- >> quite a few of them will be dead, actually, because they were getting towards the end of their careers in the noughties when and this is when they. yeah. and this is i think this is really the problem with the whole whole political approach and saying, let's just wait for the public inquiry. what's coming out in the public inquiry. a lot of it came out in the court in it came the court case in 2019. it came out the court case in out again in the court case in 2021. that stuff is known. it's in the public domain. it's been known for a long time. we don't needit known for a long time. we don't need it come up for a third need it to come up for a third time in public inquiry to time in the public inquiry to know that certain things were got is got wrong. sure, the inquiry is likely to present an even more full picture and identify other failings , but we know things failings, but we know things were wrong already. we know that in a huge number of india civil cases, were convicted and cases, they were convicted and they lost money. they shouldn't have lost i don't why have lost money. i don't see why we can't be solving those problems now . problems right now. >> should talk or do you >> um, should we talk or do you want to talk about microaggression or xl bullies?

>> xl bullies are you across this microaggression story? >> i'm across microaggressions. i'm also across xl bullies. >> you would not last five minutes. oh, for god's sake, civil servants, give me strength. so civil servants have been taught not to roll their eyes. something you do very well. we both do it quite a lot, actually, because it's seen as an microaggression. an act of microaggression. >> this costs >> this, by the way, this costs the training the taxpayer this training £160,000. what the hell is going on in our woke civil service? who cares if someone rolls their eyesin who cares if someone rolls their eyes in exasperation ? what? eyes in exasperation? what? >> what the hell is going on in our civil service? full stop. if the way that civil servants are communicating with each other is rolling their eyes and looking at their phones, i mean, is the government being run by people who are essentially acting to each like stroppy each other like stroppy teenagers ? but i'm all right teenagers? but i'm all right with people , right? with people, right? >> because, you see, i would be in defence of roll. >> i rolling anneliese me too. i couldn't care less. >> do know because >> do you know why? because i want give me their want people to give me their genuine as long as genuine reaction. as long as it's deeply offensive. but i

it's not deeply offensive. but i want know how people feel and want to know how people feel and what told here. want to know how people feel and what servants told here. want to know how people feel and whatservants are told here. want to know how people feel and whatservants are being here. want to know how people feel and whatservants are being taught. civil servants are being taught. and of course, this is an area of law because people of employment law because people are taking against their are taking cases against their bosses at bosses who roll their eyes at them. they're saying they're being encouraged. um to, uh, say nothing and nod their heads to promote transparency and inclusion. don't show what you really think. just nod your head i >> -- >> buti >> but i think that comes with then saying what you really think. and this is this is the key problem what these what key problem and what these what these are trying to these courses are trying to establish. and i looked into some them when i was, when some of them when i was, when i was researching this. and it's not what you're not saying hide what you're feeling, saying rather than feeling, it's saying rather than huffing and puffing and rolling your eyes. if you've got a disagreement with someone, say, i've got a disagreement with someone otherwise you someone because otherwise you can't have an effective workplace . if people are sort of workplace. if people are sort of just passively, aggressively huffing at each other, why do these civil need to be these civil servants need to be taught this? >> w- w— >> why do people need to be taught this is just normal taught this? this is just normal discourse. in a normal working day, seminar on it. >> so why indeed the civil service need to be taught this.

that's a big problem. but clearly someone if you're clearly if someone if you're having a seminar, someone clearly thought there was a problem. and let's also tell you why. >> because a british woman of indian descent complained that she was the victim of racial discrimination bosses discrimination when bosses raised . raised their eyebrows. >> oh no, i've just noticed my eyebrows while she was talking, so she used that as evidence of this microaggressions . often in this microaggressions. often in the workplace. >> maybe this time they just thought what she was saying was idiotic. >> sukh well, i think i think she actually lost her case. >> that woman she did. >> that woman she did. >> where it where this >> so where it where this clearly enough them though clearly enough of them though where is where this comes from is actually man where this comes from is actu shares man where this comes from is actu shares a man where this comes from is actu shares a name man where this comes from is actu shares a name with man where this comes from is actu shares a name with another who shares a name with another amazing man, pierce , who was a amazing man, pierce, who was a an american football player. and then he was a clinical psychologist at harvard , and he psychologist at harvard, and he essentially wrote , wrote about essentially wrote, wrote about how if you're, um, in a minority community and the majority , the community and the majority, the people from the majority when they, they might not mean to, but because of the way they've been brought up, what they've

internalised, and they much internalised, and they are much more likely of just more likely to sort of just minimise your presence and they might overtly or might not be overtly racist or overtly homophobic, overtly sexist or homophobic, but by by these little huffs and puffs and eye rolls, it excludes you from the from the workplace. so you're not able to do your most work and they're most effective work and they're not to do their effectively. >> this because how >> but i hate this because how do a microaggression? do you prove a microaggression? you can't. just you can't. you just say to somebody, just rolled your somebody, you just rolled your eyes is the meaning eyes and this is the meaning that i read into that you can't defend yourself against it . defend yourself against it. >> it is a subjective judgement, isn't it? totally >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think that's >> and i think that's why the it's actually a good idea. rather litigate this rather than litigate this in the employment , it's a good employment tribunal, it's a good idea just avoid the problem idea to just avoid the problem altogether and teach people to communicate in a more effective and respectful way. >> i just don't know why we have to this. can't to teach people this. why can't people out for people just work it out for themselves? did you learn nothing at school? >> got to say >> well, i mean, i've got to say i agree with you. i'm astonished that teach people that we have to teach people this. know, this. certainly, you know, rolling huffing and rolling my eyes and huffing and puffing was something that was knocked quickly. knocked out of me quite quickly. >> i wouldn't be offended knocked out of me quite quickly. >>the i wouldn't be offended knocked out of me quite quickly. >>the slightest. n't be offended knocked out of me quite quickly. >>the slightest. n't benotanded in the slightest. well, not

regard of microaggression. >> sam fails and we will get on to the next to xl bullies in the next section, and we will also get on to. we've that italy to. we've told you that italy have boats crisis. >> well, think they have. >> well, they think they have. >> well, they think they have. >> have. but >> they think they have. but we'll why. promise we'll tell you why. i promise you, will get it. our you, we will get to it. our guest the next section. guest is in the next section. see

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bev turner. >> so scotland's first >> so scotland's former first minister gave minister nicola sturgeon gave evidence inquiry evidence to the uk covid inquiry in edinburgh yesterday. >> emotional , in edinburgh yesterday. >> emotional, uh, >> she got very emotional, uh, perhaps tears ? no. perhaps crocodile tears? no. what, you think she was taking questions from jamie dawson? kc the pandemic struck. >> there's a large part of me wishes i hadn't been , but i was, wishes i hadn't been, but i was, and i wanted to be the best first minister i could be during that period. it is for others to judge the extent to which i succeeded . succeeded. >> and she's not alone in wishing she hadn't been the first minister during the pandemic. right and this was just people. >> after she'd >> this was just after she'd been johnson's been mocking boris johnson's suitability to prime minister suitability to be prime minister in the case. he turned the question on and said, well, question on her and said, well, were right be were you the right person to be first how this woman first minister? how this woman star collapsed, fallen the star has collapsed, fallen the fall from grace is extraordinary . extraordinary as kevin scope. sorry, let me introduce you. kevin. go first. >> we're both incensed by that performance . yeah. performance. yeah. >> um, yeah. >> um, yeah. >> i mean, this time last year, she was still first minister. yeah her political career seemed

set there. she wasn't as popular as she had been, but she seemed pretty untouchable . uh, but . pretty untouchable. uh, but. >> then hang on, we've lost your mic. i think, kevin, we're going to try and fix it for a moment. that's okay. because i like to fill time telling you what i think nicola sturgeon fill time telling you what i thincovid nicola sturgeon fill time telling you what i thincovid inquiry.a sturgeon fill time telling you what i thincovid inquiry.a sturgtears . the covid inquiry. those tears. think about the tears of the mothers whose teenagers took their own lives because they were locked in bedrooms and couldn't cope with that amount of isolation , and the families of isolation, and the families that were torn apart by completely unsafe , scientific completely unsafe, scientific and unnecessary policy decisions . they were so extreme in scotland , she was even more scotland, she was even more draconian than here. andrew. >> well, she was in a she was in a she was in she was arm wrestling with the prime minister. we've got kevin schofield back with so schofield back with mike. so we've therapy for me. we've just good therapy for me. she down unexpectedly. she stood down unexpectedly. yeah. was the yeah. and then there was the scandal . scandal. >> yeah. >> well yeah. >> well yeah. >> arrested very soon, as >> she arrested very soon, as was her husband who's the chief executive the which executive of the party, which was unhealthy position executive of the party, which wa be unhealthy position executive of the party, which wabe chief unhealthy position executive of the party, which wa be chief executive lthy position executive of the party, which wa be chief executive lth the ysition executive of the party, which wa be chief executive lth the snp1 i >> -- >> and hm.

kna- h snp is running the >> and the snp is running the country and the treasurer. that is all on going. yeah. then there was the mess she got herself into over trans children and self—identification. yeah being thrown out here by the british government in westminster and here she is now weeping and wailing, westminster and here she is now weeping and wailing , trying to weeping and wailing, trying to get sympathy at the covid inquiry. it didn't wash it didn't. >> and i think the people that would have given her the benefit of the doubt in the past won't give her the benefit of the doubt now. i think it's because her her reputation has taken such a hammering over the last 12 months, not least because of these whatsapp messages, which no longer exist. um deleted. >> well, lots and lots of them . >> well, lots and lots of them. >> well, lots and lots of them. >> absolutely. well, she says the scottish government policy, but some of her ministers weren't doing it. so either it wasn't government policy or they were just ignoring her. either way, it's not and was great. >> weren't they using burner phones? so there is that true? >> el 9 it was certainly, true? >> it was certainly, um 9 it was certainly, um , >> well, it was certainly, um, uh, would you describe them uh, how would you describe them as disposable phones claimed on expenses. expenses. >> expenses.

expenses. >> say that this was >> but the snp say that this was because were staff because these were her staff working from home during lockdown . lockdown. >> so that's their defence of it. so it's not been proven that that's anything do. that's anything to do. >> but getting rid of every single whatsapp when >> but getting rid of every sing prime atsapp when >> but getting rid of every singprime minister, when >> but getting rid of every singprime minister, sunakn >> but getting rid of every singprime minister, sunak , the prime minister, rishi sunak, got some had got criticised because some had disappeared , all of hers went disappeared, all of hers went and it well, she did it. and she did it well, she did it. >> and she admitted that yesterday, was yesterday, eventually it was kind that kind of dragged out of her that she had done it herself manually i >> -- >> um, and having promised at a famous press conference, she was asked directed , will you hand asked directed, will you hand over all messages, whatsapp, emails, etc? >> that was a while ago that to the inquiry. >> w n w- w— >> it was in 2021, i think, you know, one of daily ones know, one of the daily ones dunng know, one of the daily ones during pandemic. and she during the pandemic. and she said yes, but she had already got them then. said yes, but she had already gotand them then. said yes, but she had already gotand i them then. said yes, but she had already gotand i suspect then. said yes, but she had already gotand i suspect sheen. said yes, but she had already got and i suspect she then >> and i suspect she then thought more, get rid thought even more, let's get rid of have to of even more. i'd have to be shown how delete a whatsapp shown to how delete a whatsapp message, know message, because i didn't know you could delete them. >> mean, and >> well, yeah, i mean, yeah, and i thought maybe i always thought that maybe they'd up somewhere. they'd be backed up somewhere. >> aren't >> exactly. they are, aren't they? by something they? backed up by something called . called the cloud. >> they're absolutely called the cloud. >> up.1ey're absolutely called the cloud. >> up. and; absolutely called the cloud. >> up. and; ethethely to backed up. and if they wanted to go see these go to meta and see these messages, they could do so . and

messages, they could do so. and this is what's so infuriating because in 20 2021, because like you say in 20 2021, she course i will she said yes, of course i will give my communications as give all of my communications as if the event arises as an inquiry yesterday she inquiry and then yesterday she said, retain in said, i didn't retain them in line procedure . and line with the procedure. and then she said i was acting in accordance advice i'd been accordance with advice i'd been given in given since my first day in government, which not to government, which is not to leave messages on a phone. well that's contradiction that's a complete contradiction to what you said a couple of years well, and to what you said a couple of yearswell, well, and to what you said a couple of yearswell, she/ell, and to what you said a couple of yearswell, she she's and to what you said a couple of yearswell, she she's beei'ili'id also, well, she she's been in government thousand also, well, she she's been in gove seven. t thousand and seven. >> remember, the snp have >> if you remember, the snp have ruled in scotland ruled the roost in scotland for a alex a very long time. but alex salmond, was minister salmond, who was first minister at he has come out at the time, he has come out i think yesterday he was saying, but minister but when he was first minister at wasn't aware of at that time, he wasn't aware of this that had to get this policy, that he had to get rid so something rid of messages. so something doesn't up. doesn't quite add up. >> if that who was she >> if that was who was she advised them by a advised to get rid of them by a big told me the first big boy told me the first minister. absolutely a very powerful first minister. >> policy like does >> a policy like that does not get brought in without her because she's such a control freak. >> well , freak. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> and she, she was one of the problems was she kept problems was that she kept a very close coterie of advisers around about her, didn't really consult with her cabinet very much, didn't really rate her

cabinet very much. and so cabinet very much. no. and so every decision, every major decision was taken by her across every portfolio, because that was the other thing. the was the other thing. during the pandemic, she fronted these press conferences every single pandemic, she fronted these presin:onferences every single pandemic, she fronted these presin theerences every single pandemic, she fronted these presin the way:es every single pandemic, she fronted these presin the way:es e�*borisingle day in the way that boris johnson, even boris johnson, didn't do that. he went over to matt hancock, etc. >> just we you go, >> just before we let you go, given what happens to this woman now, think she's now, well, i think she's finished politically. >> finished . um, you know, >> she's finished. um, you know, she's, she's she's never coming back tatters. very back in tatters. i'd be very surprised for surprised if she stood for re—election in the 2026 scottish parliament i think parliament elections. i think ideally, would have liked ideally, she would have liked to have on to nice un job. have gone on to a nice un job. yeah, she , um. oh, yeah. yeah, she, um. oh, yeah. but with reputation in the way with her reputation in the way it is, i'd be very surprised. and if she gets charged and we don't if she will still don't know if she will be still the police investigator, still the police investigator, still the investigation the police investigation going on. so our life is pretty much on. so our life is pretty much on we what happens. >> what was she hiding? what happens. >> \aher was she hiding? what happens. >> \aher motivations?�*|g? what happens. >> \aher motivations? what hat happens. >> \aher motivations? what was were her motivations? what was she hiding? that's what the pubuc she hiding? that's what the public to know. kevin, she hiding? that's what the publi

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news financial report. >> well up at noon. good afternoon britain, with tom and emily and they're with us here we are here. morning. very well, very well. >> we're going to have an interview , a sit down interview interview, a sit down interview with mike freer, the mp, of course, who has said that he'll be standing down at the next election because of a series of death threats from various groups, including muslims against crusades and indeed , ali against crusades and indeed, ali harbi ali, who, of course, will remember was the man who murdered , uh, sir david amess. murdered, uh, sir david amess. >> well , the interesting story >> well, the interesting story about is it wasn't just sir about that is it wasn't just sir david amess on his hit list, also his hit list was mike also on his hit list was mike freer, and he turned up in mike fryer's constituency with a knife . and if mike freer had knife. and if mike freer had been at his office in his constituency that day, he could well have been the person who was stabbed and remarkably, the reason he wasn't there is that was the day he was appointed to be a minister by boris johnson. and so he was down in westminster rather than up in

his constituency. but if he hadnt his constituency. but if he hadn't minister that hadn't been made a minister that day. but i'm worried he day. yeah but i'm worried he could have anyway because could have been anyway because he wears a jacket. he wears a stab jacket. >> constituency office burnt he wears a stab jacket. >> byonstituency office burnt he wears a stab jacket. >> by arsonists.y office burnt he wears a stab jacket. >> by arsonists.y think burnt he wears a stab jacket. >> by arsonists.y think the nt down by arsonists. i think the real is are democracy real worry is are democracy under threat by extremists groups from extremist groups ? groups from extremist groups? >> and i think we saw angela rayner being massively heckled and aggressively , i think, very and aggressively, i think, very intimidating. she probably from palestinian activists . she's palestinian activists. she's probably quite worried for her safety . other mps we know, get safety. other mps we know, get death on regular death threats on the regular jess diane abbott, jess phillips, diane abbott, plenty mps have of mps plenty of mps have of mps buttons installed in their homes, and michael gove is being kept in the grace favour of kept in the grace and favour of park house, which could be the foreign because park house, which could be the foreisame because park house, which could be the foreisame assassin because park house, which could be the foreisame assassin was ause park house, which could be the foreisame assassin was outside that same assassin was outside his own house. >> seven times. >> seven times. >> it is remarkable . i don't >> it is remarkable. i don't think we rest on the fact enough that in the last eight years, two members of parliament have been killed by extremists. yeah, it's a really, really serious issue. and it is perhaps little doubt that when some members of parliament are thinking , gosh,

parliament are thinking, gosh, what am i going to do next year or even later this year ? am or even later this year? am i going to stand again? or am i going to stand again? or am i going to stand again? or am i going to prioritise my family? many people prioritising many people are prioritising their families. many people are prioritising their ftworry, ., many people are prioritising their ftworry, isn't it? isn't it? >> so worry, isn't it? isn't it? what want what type of person would want to go into politics if they're worried in some area of the country right? country anyway, right? >> , that's all >> unfortunately, that's all we've time for you we've got time for with you two for but will be for now, but it will be a brilliant show always this brilliant show as always this afternoon tom. afternoon with emily and tom. for though, you with for now, though, you with britain's gb news do britain's newsroom on gb news do not . stay there

that i knew had dewbs& co week nights from six. >> it's 1142 with britain's newsroom on gb news andrew u on the telly . the telly. >> sorry, carol maloney, which is away she carol maloney i have to tell him that nearly every day. >> you know, he's always busy. he's a very, busy man. you he's a very, very busy man. you know, us in between all know, he fits us in between all the many things he does. nichi hodgson us and carole hodgson is with us and carole malone right. malone as well. right. let's talk welby talk about justin welby and rwanda. kick off talk about justin welby and rwarthis. kick off with this. >> yeah. now, this is this is the now has he was the archbishop. now has he was he stood up in lords this the archbishop. now has he was he st(ande in lords this the archbishop. now has he was he st(and told lords this the archbishop. now has he was he st(and told that lords this the archbishop. now has he was he st(and told that told this the archbishop. now has he was he st(and told that told the; week and told that told the world that the rwanda bill was very damaging for gave us a bad reputation in, in the international community because we were damaging the law anyway , we were damaging the law anyway, this is a bloke and today now he's banded together with, with two more peers to try and smash this bill. he wants to get together with the one of them, the former head of the supreme court, supposedly

court, who supposedly impartiality. know impartiality. well, we know she's not because she's all for this, but the two, the three of them have got together now and they hcr to have the they want the un hcr to have the final say whether not final say on whether or not rwanda was a safe country. now, what? i don't know whether the three of them know, but the un hcr takes people. it does. they send sorry. they send people to rwanda since i think it's since 2019, they've sent 1700. last year they sent 140 refugees. libya oh, from all over, from all over africa, from from from ethiopia, chad, nigeria , ethiopia, chad, nigeria, cameroon, everywhere. so so it's not good enough for us to send them, but it's all right for, for the unhcr anyway . but he for the unhcr anyway. but he stood up in the lords this week and he just talked down again to the british people. he doesn't realise what the lords is for. he doesn't seem to realise this is not a chamber where you smash laws that have been passed in the elected house. you are entitled to revise them but not to smash them. but it is his

intention to smash them. and i just, i, you know, this is the guy l just, i, you know, this is the guy i don't know. you guys remember in 2018, he took a syrian family in to lambeth palace, now lambeth palace is in ten acres of some of the most beautiful gardens in london. uh, he gave them a four bedroom cottage. did a big pr thing about it as soon as it had served its purpose. the family were kicked out because apparently ten acres of beautiful grounds is not suitable for a refugee family from syria . apparently. from syria. apparently. apparently. maybe it's too good for know. so how for them. i don't know. so how he there and say he he can stand up there and say he cares migrants, which is cares about migrants, which is what this week. i mean, what he did this week. i mean, it me . it shocks me. >> just run through and >> let's just run through and throw up, ladies. nikki and carol, second. carol, just for a second. because talking because while we're talking of migrants, deal migrants, we do want to deal with this story. we've been trading all morning and our trading it all morning and our our guest is now available. so trading it all morning and our our isest is now available. so trading it all morning and our our is aboutnow available. so trading it all morning and our our is aboutnow italianyle. so this is about the italian government are going to government who are going to build two centres northern build two centres in northern albania to process more than 30,000 people hoping to reach italy each year. so should we be following their lead? so let's talk to immigration lawyer

hardeep singh bangle. good morning thank you for morning haljarp. thank you for good morning forjoining us and hanging this morning. so it hanging on this morning. so it looks like maloney basically had a conversation with the president, the prime minister of albania, november. these albania, in november. these processing are due to processing centres are due to open this spring. she's made it happen like that. why can't we do that here? >> well we can, the french offered it, um, for to us in france to open processing centres. >> note that albania and italy are next to each other. >> so italy have been very smart about this and chose a neighbouring country, um, to do it and the albania, of it in and the albania, of course, we know one of the largest groups of migrants coming into europe and coming on our shores is albanians. >> ? so we can do that. france >> so? so we can do that. france offered it to us, but we, in our wisdom, rejected it. um, i don't know and we chose to pursue know why. and we chose to pursue a plan. sending them tens of thousand miles to a different continent, which hasn't taken a float yet. >> but this, this just seems it just seems crazy . so your just seems crazy. so your understanding is that we had this conversation with france . i

this conversation with france. i believe also we might have had it with albania at some point as well. >> well, yeah, we've had conversations with several countries and france . countries and france. >> it's not an understanding, it's actually a fact . france it's actually a fact. france actually offered us say, look , actually offered us say, look, you can make processing centre you can make a processing centre here, we'll give you the land, we'll give you whatever support you need and we rejected it. britain rejected it. that to britain rejected it. and that to me make any sense . me does not make any sense. whereas italy, what they've done is thought, okay, you is thought, okay, if you don't want we're going to do want to do it, we're going to do it. it looks like italy are it. and it looks like italy are going work. the going to make this work. the italy a problem italy might have a problem though, with the country that they've that they've chosen. considering that albanian they've chosen. considering that albaniaiits own people leaving they've chosen. considering that allshores. own people leaving they've chosen. considering that allshores. yeah.:)eople leaving its shores. yeah. >> is it going to. >> how is it going to. >> how is it going to. >> how is going to keep >> yeah. how is it going to keep these asylum seekers there? this is to be really perplexing is going to be really perplexing . they could have chosen. they should have chosen perhaps a country where they can control their immigrants from leaving . their immigrants from leaving. but albania has got a bad problem of people leaving their country . yeah. so. all country anyway. yeah. so. all right, take it might right, well, take this. it might just grab. a just be a money grab. a situation like the rwanda is

doing moment . doing at the moment. >> we're pressured on time. but just explain to us which home secretary idea secretary rejected the idea of opening the two processing centres in france. i think i think it was, um, i'm not sure it might have been priti patel . it might have been priti patel. >> um, it might have been suella braverman , but no one has braverman, but no one has actually accepted it's been actually accepted it. it's been actually accepted it. it's been a government no one a conservative government no one has actually come out and said, we will a processing centre we will have a processing centre in it's i, i can't in france. so it's i, i can't confirm which home secretary it was, but this government has clearly rejected a plan. you know, it's findable. they don't denyit know, it's findable. they don't deny it either . they say, yeah, deny it either. they say, yeah, we did reject the plans and i think they need to be held to account to it. why? they're not opening processing centres in france thank. done in france. thank. you've done it in albania. yeah >> thank you. hijack. really interesting. let's our panel interesting. let's ask our panel about this. >> it extraordinary that about this. >> it only.traordinary that about this. >> it only beeniinary that about this. >> it only been primethat about this. >> it only been prime minister about this. >> five1ly been prime minister about this. >> five minutes. ’rime minister about this. >> five minutes. yese minister about this. >> five minutes. yes only1ister for five minutes. yes only in italy. already done italy. and she's already done a deal with albania. >> nicked that from >> they nicked that idea from us anyway. know, they anyway. i mean, you know, they hadnt anyway. i mean, you know, they hadn't it hadn't been thinking about it until were going to until we said we were going to do and they've but, do it. and now they've got. but, you know, i what i didn't know was haljarp said, was what haljarp has just said, that want offered

that we want france offered to do mean, so why didn't do this. i mean, so why didn't we didn't we do we why didn't we do it? >> this is the problem, this >> but this is the problem, this rwanda been so rwanda plan that's been so ridiculous start ridiculous from the start because rwanda isn't safe country. >> you know, there's loads of evidence , uh, evidence of people, uh, protesting the unchr are sending refugees there. >> yes. >> yes. >> i mean, that aside, that aside, but what they say is that i just want to say it isn't safe because protesters who've been people sent by the united nafions people sent by the united nations council for refugees say it's genuine refugees. >> must it's >> they must think it's refugees. they more than refugees. they know more than you then protesters have been >> and then protesters have been killed on on the killed. that's on that's on the record. they also actually something important about something very important about this rwanda said this plan. rwanda have said to us take anybody who's us they won't take anybody who's lgbtq. why? because they don't like them. they won't them. like them. they won't have them. so do not illegal to be so where do not illegal to be gay in rwanda. >> that's not true. >> that's not true. >> they said >> no. but they they've said themselves they will not take lgbt . so they're all lgbt refugees. so they're all going now they're gay then? >> yes. >> yes. >> well, they'll all claim they're well. >> well, they'll all claim the but well. >> well, they'll all claim the but again, well. >> well, they'll all claim the but again, that's that's an >> but again, that's that's an important thing to figure out. >> i haven't actually seen that. and that and i haven't seen that anywhere. you know, if anywhere. but but you know, if the is sending refugees the unhcr is sending refugees there sure there'll

there and i'm sure there'll be a few be few gay few, there'll be a few gay people there'll be a people in there, there'll be a few so they it's few back. so if they think it's safe, not safe? well, safe, why is it not safe? well, i you. i agree with you. >> that's inconsistent. >> i think that's inconsistent. i not safe. don't i think it's not safe. i don't understand the unhcr is understand why the unhcr is saying it is. and the saying that. it is. and the other thing remember other thing is, remember that they places they said they had 200 places for we wanted to send for anybody we wanted to send there. there's now 30,000 people, 40,000 people. where are you going to put all these people, 40,000 people. where are you gointheyput all these people, 40,000 people. where are you gointhey haven't hese people, 40,000 people. where are you gointhey haven't figured the people? they haven't figured the numbers . well, they are numbers out. well, they are doing it. >> i thought it because there was today was two stories today in my paper front story paper has got a front page story which says more than 5600 migrants have been shortlisted which says more than 5600 migrantstandazen shortlisted which says more than 5600 migrantstanda for shortlisted which says more than 5600 migrantstanda for deportation to go to rwanda for deportation flights . but then same, flights. but then in the same, in same breath, 30,000 in the same breath, 30,000 refugees have been released on bail . and while while there bail. and while while there were, there , applications are were, there, applications are being processed, those people are just going to disappear. >> this is going to >> well, this is going to go into the black market. this into the black market. but this is bail. you is the thing with bail. you know, so we're terrible at putting the putting people on bail. the worst put bail. worst people get put on bail. murderers people that have children, are children, their children are killed, you killed, their children, you know, we people get know, and we people often get killed. women often killed. you know, women often get killed when somebody is on bail, offended bail, somebody that's offended by aren't by abusing them before aren't going killed. going to get killed. >> just to

>> they're just going to disappear into the black market. listen, want that will do listen, we want that will do nothing britain. listen, we want that will do not we] britain. listen, we want that will do notwe] to britain. listen, we want that will do not we] to brita you of >> we want to bring you some of these we've been these live pictures. we've been talking about this morning. these live pictures. we've been talkingtheyut this morning. these live pictures. we've been talkingthe situationiis morning. these live pictures. we've been talkingthe situation in morning. this is the situation in brussels . the farmers are brussels. the farmers are standing up against the riot police here. um, they are european parliament too. >> there's a summit of eu ministers. so this is really a big attack on the eu's environmental policies . good. environmental policies. good. >> so, so basically it looks like it's getting to a bit of a tipping point here because what the farmers are probably likely to happen is they'll get the water cannons out. and as soon as brussels police start as the brussels police start water cannoning, the farmers who are the people who work the hardest across the world, who put the food on our plates, who keep our landscape in a rural state as soon as the politicians give the orders to start water cannoning the people, then we can see for listening on radio. >> the riot police are there with their batons and shields. it does look like it's about to kick off. >> e“- kick off. >> know, if they >> and you know, if they do that, mean , paris will be

that, they i mean, paris will be starved . the farmers will make starved. the farmers will make sure no food gets through to paris, and they will absolutely deserve at this water coming. deserve it at this water coming. yeah, you yeah, yeah, it is people, you know, we don't cannon know, if we don't water cannon eco protesters , we sure as hell eco protesters, we sure as hell shouldn't be water cannon farmers . farmers. >> you remember when >> and if you remember when bofis >> and if you remember when boris brought bought boris johnson had brought bought a water cannon for london, the home theresa may home secretary, theresa may banned from it . banned him from using it. >> never used. it's how. >> now. >> actually, the farmers are furious. there's regulations >> actually, the farmers are furiou pushed's regulations >> actually, the farmers are furiou pushed through|tions >> actually, the farmers are furiou pushed through that; >> actually, the farmers are furiou pushed through that they >> actually, the farmers are furicthey;hed through that they >> actually, the farmers are furicthey had through that they >> actually, the farmers are furicthey had no ough that they >> actually, the farmers are furicthey had no say] that they >> actually, the farmers are furicthey had no say in.iat they >> actually, the farmers are furicthey had no say in. it'shey feel they had no say in. it's a proper old fashioned uprising. um, right . i proper old fashioned uprising. um, right. i think we're done, ladies. we didn't get ladies. i'm sorry we didn't get as with you as you ladies. i'm sorry we didn't get as have with you as you ladies. i'm sorry we didn't get as have liked h you as you ladies. i'm sorry we didn't get as have liked thisu as you ladies. i'm sorry we didn't get as have liked this light.)u would have liked this light. this morning, carol and nikki . this morning, carol and nikki. that britain's that is it from britain's newsroom for today. up next. good afternoon , britain, with newsroom for today. up next. good and noon , britain, with newsroom for today. up next. good and tom. , britain, with newsroom for today. up next. good and tom. seetain, with newsroom for today. up next. good and tom. see you with newsroom for today. up next. good and tom. see you tomorrow . emily and tom. see you tomorrow. you won't know. >> won't is art democracy under threat from violent extremists? that's the question we're posing today as not only violence erupts across the country, but an mp feels the need to stand down. yes and we'll be going straight to brussels to see more of those very angry farmers as

looks like things are heating up i >> -- >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello. very good morning to. it's certainly been a changeable week but today is fine for most of us. hazy sunshine. yes but also some rain in the far northwest of scotland. we start with some showers in the northwest of scotland , and the northwest of scotland, and the best of any clear spells will be across central eastern parts across central and eastern parts of , where we'll be of england, where we'll be chilly thing, but actually chilly first thing, but actually a follows some higher a fine day follows some higher cloud is building from the southwest, so it's not going to be completely blue there be completely blue skies. there will cirrus in the sky, will be some cirrus in the sky, so white cloud but bright and dry for most , except so white cloud but bright and dry for most, except for so white cloud but bright and dry for most , except for the dry for most, except for the northwest corner where the showers turn to more persistent rain and the breeze picks up later . nevertheless, later. nevertheless, temperatures not far from average time of year average for the time of year 7 to 9 celsius into the evening . to 9 celsius into the evening. we're going to see that rain become more widespread across scotland, remain scotland, but it will remain heaviest and most persistent in

the north and the drier the north and the west. drier interludes to the east, to scotland general , the cloud scotland in general, the cloud thickens across the whole of the uk the night we uk by the end of the night we keep spells in the keep the clear spells in the southeast, where will southeast, where there will be a touch of frost, few touch of frost, perhaps a few mist patches. first thing, but otherwise, as that cloud builds, as well , as the wind picks up as well, it's a milder start it's going to be a milder start to the day tomorrow. compared with this morning, and it will be a grey start for many, especially in the west where the cloud be covering hills cloud will be covering the hills . be some mistiness . there'll be some mistiness around and day many, around and grey day for many, just bright interludes in just some bright interludes in the times. but there'll the east at times. but there'll be some dampness in western hills, especially western scotland and northern ireland. however, with the wind coming from the west and it will be a blustery highs blustery wind, highs of 13 celsius that warm feeling celsius as that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . inside from boxt boilers. >> sponsors of weather on .

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in touch. gb views at gb news. com on everything we're going to be discussing today. but i believe we are going to liam halligan in just one moment because the bank england because the bank of england is about announce its latest about to announce its latest interest decision . interest rate decision. >> yes, currently it's a 15 year high of 5.25. the bank of england has kept the rate the same for the past. england has kept the rate the same for the past . three decisions. >> well, they do the same again. joining us now is liam halligan gb news, economics and business editor money . editor with on the money. >> liam i'm glued to my screen guys i'm on twitter or. x or whatever it's called these days waiting for the news to drop. almost certainly i'll have egg on my face if the interest rate isn't held at 5.25. but what will be crucial is what the monetary policy committee actually says in its statement, giving clues to when interest rates might actually start to fall from 5.25% already, mortgage rates in many cases are

below 5.25% because, of course,