gb news. >> way . >> way. >> way. >> good morning i'm peter andre alongside the lovely ellie costello and this is saturday morning live. >> yes really to good have your company this morning. and we have got an action packed show for you. and we start with a family of scarlett jenkinson. that's girl who killed that's the girl who killed transgender teenager brianna ghey. they have said they are truly sorry for her horrific crimes. it says as jenkinson and her accomplice, eddie ratcliffe, now both 16, were handed life sentences for the brutal and sadistic murder the court heard how the pair were from normal homes. so we are asking today what caused these seemingly

average teenagers to commit this brutal crime .7 is it nature or is brutal crime? is it nature or is it nurture . the 64% of brits it nurture. the 64% of brits admit to wearing a brave face to dodge discussions about mental health, and a staggering 45% of people still think it's a taboo subject. >> so how do we normalise not always being okay? we're going to be asking why it's important to be asking why it's important to hold a time to talk day, and whether our attitudes towards mental health are improving . how mental health are improving. how do you feel about shared bank accounts? >> well, an opinion piece in the times this week suggests it could be a good idea, but is splitting finances the to go splitting finances the way to go ? we would love to hear your thoughts on this one. it's going to it, to divide people, isn't it, pete? to divide people, isn't it, pet uh, and to divide people, isn't it, petuh, and we're going to be >> uh, and we're going to be joined this week's greatest joined by this week's greatest briton. well, maybe an honorary briton. well, maybe an honorary brit week because he is brit this week because he is from australia. a from the voice australia. he's a contestant from there. tiktok sensation millis very sensation sean millis very excited about this . he's going excited about this. he's going to join us to discuss his suffering hunter's disease,

suffering from hunter's disease, overcoming cruel trolls online, and a successful bid and launching a successful bid for charts . for the charts. >> also, i'm giggling already because we're going to be meeting the ladies behind this hilarious video , which has been hilarious video, which has been going viral online. can you guess what happens next? i bet you can't. it is absolutely amazing. it's been viewed more than 20 million times. i'm sure they did. >> they can't predict what's going to happen either. >> both those are going to >> both those women are going to be sofa with us this be on the sofa with us this morning. you not want to miss morning. you do not want to miss that through the that coming in through the window, apparently. yeah, probably. if probably. well, be careful if they of course want they are. but we of course want to always to hear from you like we always do morning . do do every saturday morning. do keep coming in on keep your emails coming in on any stories we are any of the stories that we are talking this morning. gbv talking about this morning. gbv news before news at gbnews.com. but before we do anything else, aaron has all your news headlines .

all your news headlines. >> good morning to you. it's 10:02 i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the uk says it remains a steadfast ally of the united states after washington launched dozens of strikes in the middle . east. well, 85 the middle. east. well, 85 targets were hit in syria and iraq in response to a drone attack on a us military base that killed three soldiers last weekend. the government says it supports washington's right to respond to attacks from militant groups linked to iran, iraq has warned the strikes will have disastrous consequences for the region . power sharing is set to region. power sharing is set to return to northern ireland later, two years after it collapsed. it comes after the democratic unionist party ended its long running boycott over post—brexit trade arrangements. it means, for the first time in history, northern ireland will have a nationalist first minister, sinn fein , the biggest minister, sinn fein, the biggest party in stormont after elections in 2022, will nominate

michelle o'neill . the dup is the michelle o'neill. the dup is the largest unionist party will get to nominate a deputy. the two roles have equal power and cannot exist without the other political commentator doctor john coulter says he's hopeful the new deal work . the new deal will work. >> there is a mood of optimism . >> there is a mood of optimism. i think, as i said, the last chance saloon attitude that i mentioned, they know that if it doesn't work this time, the government's patience is going to run out. and let's put this day in perspective , uh, day in perspective, uh, basically, if sir jeffrey hadn't been able to agree a deal and say stormont had been mothballed , it would have slipped down the league table of importance for the prime minister a manhunt is still underway for a suspected chemical attacker. >> abdul ezedi , who has >> abdul ezedi, who has significant injuries on the right side of his face, was last seen at london's kings cross station on wednesday night . a 31 station on wednesday night. a 31 year old mother who was attacked with a corrosive substance remains in hospital . her two

remains in hospital. her two young daughters were also hurt, but not as as first but not as badly as first thought. forensic tests are being carried out on empty being carried out on two empty containers at an address containers found at an address in carrying in newcastle, carrying a corrosive label. warnings for met police detective chief superintendent kevin hurley says there are few steps the suspect can take. he has either gone into hiding or is being hidden by friends or relatives , or by friends or relatives, or alternatively , um, he's killed alternatively, um, he's killed himself because where he comes from , uh, culturally, because from, uh, culturally, because i've worked in afghanistan a couple of tours in kabul, i've worked in afghanistan a couple of tours in kabul , the couple of tours in kabul, the view of some elements of the afghan community is that women are less immortals than dogs. >> so if he's with a group of afghans who think he's quite rightly punished , potentially rightly punished, potentially someone who was in a relationship, they will almost see nothing wrong with what he's done. see nothing wrong with what he's done . meanwhile the home office done. meanwhile the home office is being urged to carry out an urgent review into how abdul

azadi was allowed to remain in the uk . the uk. >> rossetti, who is from afghanistan, was convicted of a sexual offence in 2018 was sexual offence in 2018 and was given suspended sentence . he given a suspended sentence. he was granted asylum after two failed when a priest failed attempts when a priest confirmed he had converted to christianity . three people have christianity. three people have been stabbed at a train station in paris. a suspect has been arrested following the incident at gard lyon this morning. none of the victims suffered life threatening injuries. of the victims suffered life threatening injuries . french threatening injuries. french police are still working to establish a motive . parts of the establish a motive. parts of the country will have no rail services today as the train driver strike continues . members driver strike continues. members of aslef at avanti west coast east midlands railway and west midlands railway are staging a 24 hour walkout over pay and conditions. the strike started earlier this week and will continue on monday, while a ban on overtime will last until tuesday. football fans attending many league games will be amongst those affected. aslef says drivers haven't had a pay rise for almost five years,

while the government is urging the union to accept an offer it made last year. the union to accept an offer it made last year . a senior made last year. a senior conservative mp will stand down at the next general election following his wife's health problems . following his wife's health problems. sir bob neill served as mp since 2006 and was a as an mp since 2006 and was a junior minister in the coalition government under david cameron. his wife, ann—louise suffered a stroke in 2019, with sir bob saying it's a tough road for her, but claims they both remain positive about it . sir bob joins positive about it. sir bob joins a series of mps who have announced their intention not to contest the next election , which contest the next election, which is expected for this autumn . now is expected for this autumn. now for the latest stories , sign up for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen now, or by going to gb news .com/ alerts. that's it for the moment. now back to ellie and peter . peter. >> thank you aaron. now we start with the story that has shocked

the nation this week . it is, of the nation this week. it is, of course, the deeply distressing story of brianna ghey , who was story of brianna ghey, who was stabbed 28 times in broad daylight last february by two people that she believed were her friends. >> yesterday, the 216 year olds were named in court as brianna's murderers and sentenced scarlet jenkins and for 22 years and eddie ratcliffe for 20 years. now jenkins and in particular was said to have enjoyed the killing of brianna ghey, so much that she had a desire to kill again. >> yes, the court also heard that the pair were from normal, respectable homes, and they had never been in trouble with the police before. so today we are asking, as i'm sure many of us, up and down the country are asking the same how did two seemingly average 16 year olds murder a friend in such a sadistic and brutal way? does this evil come from nurture or nature? yes. well, joining us now to discuss this is psychologist emma kenny. emma, i'm sure you've been asking these sorts of questions. this

week as well. how were these kids from normal homes ? we've kids from normal homes? we've heard in court where did it all go wrong ? go wrong? >> i mean, personally, i think that debate is one that's going to be happening for the rest of existence, essentially, because how do you whether it's how do you know whether it's nature nurture? personally, how do you know whether it's natgenuinelyture? personally, how do you know whether it's natgenuinely think dersonally, how do you know whether it's natgenuinely think there'slly, how do you know whether it's natgenuinely think there's some do genuinely think there's some individuals are born with a propensity for violence . i think propensity for violence. i think the activation factors that occur to essentially activate that pen portrait of possibility . obviously, you can look at environment, parenting and so on and so forth . but the big and so forth. but the big mismatch is when somebody says, well, to all intents and purposes , this family was a good purposes, this family was a good family . this child was born in family. this child was born in a privileged situation , in privileged situation, in a decent postcode with reasonable parents, etc. and they still acted in this way. and i guess like most of us with like most of us are born with intrinsic gifts and intrinsic skills that are activated through our environments , so too through our environments, so too is it possible that people are born with these qualities , with born with these qualities, with these predispositions that just like with a great talent, can

equally work in a very malevolent way and i would say when it comes down particularly to scarlet, who has admitted to these feelings for a long standing period of time and has admitted in spite of being admitted that in spite of being incarcerated , remains still. incarcerated, remains still. firstly relatively proud of what she did, but also still has that sense of bloodlust. they cannot help but acknowledge that there is something almost within her psyche and within her genetic predisposition that has always been there as that malevolent force just waiting for the right opportunity , with the right opportunity, with the right activation and the right position to just go out and allow those true qualities to fester in the most diabolic of fashions . fashions. >> i mean, you know , she has >> i mean, you know, she has been diagnosed with conduct dyssocial disorder and the symptoms are divided into four groups. so there's aggression, destruction, deceitful ness, violation of rules. so can can somebody that even if they have been brought up the right way ,

been brought up the right way, can they still will be able to be reformed from committing such a crime because if this is part of a condition , what are your of a condition, what are your thoughts on that? well, we don't we don't talk about psychopath in children essentially. >> so what they do is they look at conduct disorder and conduct disorder they say is prevalent in about 3% of girls, about 7% of boys, when they're children, it's usually to do with callous behaviour or a lack of empathy , behaviour or a lack of empathy, some sadistic qualities to their actions . but as they graduate actions. but as they graduate with right intervention and with the right intervention and this is the problem really , we this is the problem really, we don't the right don't really have the right intervention we intervention in the uk. we don't really at all really have intervention at all with a lot of these children because we don't have the resources, but as they graduate, hopefully a deflection in hopefully with a deflection in intervention, problems intervention, those problems that are existing when given the right kind of support can be deflected behaviour wise. so you get different outcomes . ideally, get different outcomes. ideally, what really talking about what we're really talking about is a label of psychopath . when is a label of psychopath. when they get to an adult age . and they get to an adult age. and yes, distinctions of

yes, there are distinctions of that. like i said, you expect 1% of population to of the population to be a psychopath. as noted, it psychopath. where as noted, it could be 3 to 7% of children have conduct disorder. but certainly when you're looking at the somebody the area of somebody like scarlett, i would note that she is without doubt showing very highly traits, likely highly antisocial traits, likely a psychopath . can you change a psychopath. can you change a psychopath ? probably not. in the psychopath? probably not. in the system that we have right now. will she ever be saved to walk the streets? possibly potentially. i think there's probably more hope for eddie when reading about his particular issues. and understanding where his main frame comes from. but when it comes to down somebody like scarlett, think potentially scarlett, i think potentially she was always born to be a stone cold blooded killer, and she's graduated a bit like joanna if ever you're joanna dennehy. if ever you're going think about going to think about a comparison modern era, comparison in modern era, i would say a thrill like would say a thrill killer like dennehy, who obviously killed three tried three guys and then also tried to another they have to kill another two. they have such parallels . it's about such parallels. it's about really feeling connected to the thrill of blood lust and then being willing to take the consequences and ramifications

of that because they were so excited and titillated by both the fantasy and sadly, the action in this case. >> yeah, and that's what we heard in court, didn't we? scarlett jenkinson in particular, enjoyed the killings. so much she sought to do emma kenny, very do it again. emma kenny, very good to get your analysis this morning . you. thank so much. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks for having me. >> you very much. >> thank you very much. i'm delighted. introduce delighted. now to introduce you to today , the to our panel today, the broadcaster special broadcaster and former special adviser michael gove, charlie adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley, broadcaster esther rowley, the broadcaster esther stanhope and former scotland yard peter bleksley. yard detective peter bleksley. so good to see you all this morning. and i did want to start with this horrific story, actually, and this question that we're of nature we're asking today of, of nature versus nurture. i mean, peter, with your crime background, do you believe that people are are born evil to commit these kind of crimes? or do you think they are exposed to it and they become way? become that way? >> there are often >> well, i think there are often elements because the elements of both because the mindset of criminals often morphs and changes as they get older and their criminality changes. older and their criminality changes . for example, you might changes. for example, you might

find a young person who might injure a pet or kill a pet. now thatis injure a pet or kill a pet. now that is so often a red flag and might later manifest itself in people committing very serious crimes against human beings, including murder. and so is that nature. did this child's kind of bad behaviour develop over years , or were they, in fact born that way ? well, that tends to be that way? well, that tends to be a question in court sometimes with regards to mitigation that is answered by. furthermore learned medical people than myself . but i learned medical people than myself. but i think there's elements of both . elements of both. >> so if, for example , they have >> so if, for example, they have committed the crime like scarlett has and she has this disorder, um, she has to do the crime because obviously she knew what she was doing and she will do the minimum of 20 years. now, if , if she's released because if, if she's released because they feel that she's improved , they feel that she's improved, does that not then make you think, well, hang on a second. even if you've regretted what

you've done , even if you've you've done, even if you've learned that that is a bad thing, if you're predisposed to something like a disorder, does that not mean you are very suspect able to falling back into that trap of doing something like that again and so the question is, should they ever be released? >> well, the very learned judge, mrs. justice yip, yesterday before she even touched on the sentencing guidelines, said there is a distinct possibility that both of them may never be released and these are only minimum terms. released and these are only minimum terms . 22 years for minimum terms. 22 years for scarlett and 20 for eddie. that's right . scarlett's level that's right. scarlett's level of sadism was so extreme to the point whereby she expressed a clear desire to collect body parts as either flesh or an eyeball, which, had they not been disturbed, she probably would have done her level of criminality wicked and sadism is so extreme that there will have

to be a huge amount of rehab visitation done by that young girl in the next 22 years before she will ever come remotely close to being considered for release. >> very sadly, as to what your thoughts , well, i've got two thoughts, well, i've got two teenagers and they are absolutely appalled by this and i think what this, this story is, it's so shocking, isn't it ? is, it's so shocking, isn't it? >> so horrific. as you said, the level of sadism and but why were there no red flags? i don't understand it in terms of nature or nurture. i believe we're all born with possibilities, aren't we? all born equal to a certain extent . but maybe if somebody's extent. but maybe if somebody's got a condition that some sort of mental condition , i don't of mental condition, i don't really think that there is a chance of her ever really being normal . can chance of her ever really being normal. can you ever be normal after something like that? i don't think you can. >> yeah, well, the judge has said that they could only be released if they deemed to released if they were deemed to be back in society. be safe, to be back in society. so yesterday in so she did admit yesterday in that they may that sentencing that they may never released . yeah. never be released. yeah. so i

mean, could be a relief to mean, that could be a relief to people that believe that they cannot rehabilitated . look, i cannot be rehabilitated. look, i really to talk about this really want to talk about this clapham manhunt now entering day four ezedi . still on four for abdul ezedi. still on the wanted in connection the run. wanted in connection with that clapham chemical attack. peter, i want to come back to you. and then charlie, i will say, will let you have a say, a promise. um, but how peter bleksley in this day and age in 2024, is somebody going on the run for four days and evading the authorities ? the authorities? >> well, yesterday the metropolitan police told us that they'd out five search they'd carried out five search warrants, two in east london and three in the north of the country. so clearly he is connected. he knows a substantial number of people. i would imagine , because of the would imagine, because of the number of addresses they searched. he has connections. any fugitives time on the run will often be dictated by the network that is supporting them . network that is supporting them. if you've got somebody to feed you, clothe you, put a roof over your head, transport you, provide you with cash or other

kind of funds that you can spend, then then you are more likely to remain on the run for a longer period of time. i completely get it that many, many people are saying to me with this distinctive injury on the right hand side of his face, how is it that the police have not captured him yet ? but if not captured him yet? but if he's in a bolt hole that nobody knows about, that he's not connected to anybody that the police can join the dots with, then possibly he may remain on then possibly he may remain on the run for longer. although i sincerely hope with every message that pings into my phone, one of them is very soon going to say he's in handcuffs how. >> now. >> i mean, just thinking about asylum, how even how was that even possible for him to get that ? that? >> yeah, i think that's right. thatis >> yeah, i think that's right. that is the question. i think everybody in the country is asking someone who came the asking someone who came into the country and, and had a conviction through a sex offence and then applied and then got the asylum granted after two failed attempts with this

conviction in between, it is beggars belief, conviction in between, it is beggars belief , actually. conviction in between, it is beggars belief, actually. and i think that's what people want to know what the government's doing to kind to tighten up this kind of legislation, the two are legislation, because the two are not necessarily linked. of course, come the course, you can come to the country if you're fleeing persecution, if you're looking for particularly if for a safe life, particularly if you're afghanistan, you're coming from afghanistan, for scheme for example, we've got a scheme set afghanistan for for, set up with afghanistan for for, good but if you are good reason. but if you are leaving one country enter the leaving one country to enter the uk because you are fleeing a risk, if you then pose as a risk to the country that you've entered, should not be able entered, you should not be able to you should be to stay. you should not be granted asylum given that sex offence that he was convicted for. i think there's absolutely no way should be of given the no way he should be of given the asylum, which is why the home office, be running office, i think will be running around trying around this weekend trying to work went work out what actually went wrong. well, there are big wrong. yeah well, there are big questions be questions to be asked. >> because you >> sorry, people, because if you can this story can trust it with this story that we were just talking about, esther, know, esther, where, you know, how could really could the authorities really have pair when have stopped that pair when they'd trouble have stopped that pair when they'the trouble have stopped that pair when they'the police trouble have stopped that pair when they'the police trcthey're with the police before? they're from normal homes. it was very hard the warning hard to see the warning signs that you were describing. but in this have a criminal this case, we have a criminal conviction, very serious conviction, a very serious criminal a sexual

criminal conviction for a sexual offence this a man that offence. and this is a man that failed once , but twice, and failed not once, but twice, and then succeeded third time then succeeded on the third time by converted to by saying he'd converted to christianity. that christianity. there is that loophole , isn't there? this pray loophole, isn't there? this pray to loophole that that we to stay loophole that that we seem have our asylum seem to have in our asylum system. you there'll be system. do you think there'll be questions closing that? i think that there's not only >> i think that there's not only a loophole, there's sort of a loophole, there's some sort of leak. it's isn't it? leak. it's a leak, isn't it? we've sort of leaky we've got some sort of leaky net, some somehow . now, i don't net, some somehow. now, i don't think story is necessarily think this story is necessarily about asylum seekers. i think this is about hate crime . this story is about hate crime. i this is about us i think this story is about us having to, you know, think about how we deal with these sorts of attacks to women children attacks to women and children and how we can feel safe on our streets and in our own neighbourhoods. from london. neighbourhoods. i'm from london. i've lived. i'm very proud of being down the street being walking down the street on my night in london. my own late at night in london. i've got an 18 year old daughter who around the streets at who walks around the streets at night. absolutely terrified night. i'm absolutely terrified that there's man on that there's a there's a man on the very scary looking the loose, a very scary looking man who could attack a child . i man who could attack a child. i mean, i think that really that's the story here. you could be attacked with acid on the

street. now, how do we how do we stop that happening? well, if there's a if there's a, a bureaucracy issue, if there's a some sort of paperwork issue , some sort of paperwork issue, thatis some sort of paperwork issue, that is massive issue. but how do we keep ourselves safe ? do we keep ourselves safe? >> esther, this is beyond a paperwork issue. of course, violence against women and girls is a massive issue . this is way, is a massive issue. this is way, way, way beyond a paperwork issue that sexual deviant criminal piece of dross should not have been in the uk . that is not have been in the uk. that is as clear as day . and there have as clear as day. and there have been failings by the home office, border force , possibly, office, border force, possibly, who the whatever lawyers chose to represent him at these heanngs to represent him at these hearings , which inevitably led hearings, which inevitably led to him being granted asylum. in the end, it is failings on multiple levels . he shouldn't multiple levels. he shouldn't have been in the uk and able to allegedly commit the crimes he's wanted for . wanted for. >> i don't think we want criminals the street generally. >> your thoughts, because we're going later. going to come back to you later. thank and thank you peter, charlie and esther. that. >> thank very much indeed.

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&co & co weeknights from six. >> 12 well, yeah, yeah yeah. >> 12 well, yeah, yeah yeah. >> welcome back to saturday morning live . now talking about morning live. now talking about mental health isn't easy. >> we've spoken about this many, many times before, but a conversation has the power to change lives. >> it certainly does. that's the message of the campaign. time to talk day. it's where mental health support lines and advocates hoping to break advocates are hoping to break the stigma surrounding discussing our mental health, because there is still that stigma there. because there is still that stiglt's there. because there is still that stiglt's a there. because there is still that stiglt's a huge ere. because there is still that stiglt's a huge stigma. nearly >> it's a huge stigma. nearly two thirds of brits have said that a brave to that they wear a brave face to dodge discussions about mental health, is huge , and health, which is huge, and a staggering 45% still think it's a taboo subject even now. >> yes, well , joining us now is >> yes, well, joining us now is author and psychotherapist lucy beresford, and reality tv star and mental health advocate frankie essex. really good to see you this morning, lucy and

frankie. frankie, let's start with you because i know that this is something that you feel so passionately about, don't you? of course. you? yeah of course. >> i lost my mum to suicide when i didn't actually find i was 13. i didn't actually find out until i was how it out until i was 15 how it actually happened . i was just on actually happened. i was just on the loose looking for answers and had so many and obviously i had so many questions and i've always spoken about my mum openly to all my friends . some of my friends have friends. some of my friends have never met um, they never even met her. um, but they feel they know her because feel like they know her because i do speak about her i speak i do speak about her and i speak about all the time. about how i feel all the time. and keep her spirit and just to keep her spirit alive. i guess you know what i mean. she was my she was idol mean. she was my she was my idol . she my and i think . she was my mum. and i think it's so important to it was like 23 years ago now. and i still speak about her so openly and i think it's so important. and does that help you cope? >> is that your your coping mechanism talk it? mechanism to, to talk about it? >> . i've got twin >> definitely. i've got twin babies and i want them to babies now and i want them to know who their is. they know who their nanny is. they always they look at pictures and say know, and um, say nanny, you know, and um, it's just special to me. it's just so special to me. obviously i've had friends

who've lost parents and family now, and obviously as the years go on, i'm 36. my mum was actually 37 when she committed suicide and it's i'm 37 this yean suicide and it's i'm 37 this year, you know , and i just year, you know, and i just couldn't imagine , couldn't couldn't imagine, couldn't imagine doing it to not my babies. but obviously she weren't in the right state of mind. and if she just had someone talk years ago, someone to talk to 23 years ago, it bit of a taboo to talk it was a bit of a taboo to talk about your health. it was about your mental health. it was about your mental health. it was a like pushed away and it's a bit like pushed away and it's so really is. so sad. it really is. >> but why is it still so taboo? i mean, you know, people say celebrities, everybody is talking about this. politicians the, the royals, i mean, everyone talks about mental health. why is it still so taboo? i'll, i'll ask you this. >> i think it's that we're very scared to be vulnerable. and we also, with the rise of social media and uh, particularly sites like instagram, which are very visual and you post things there which give you this impression that i am leading this incredibly charmed life. everything's going well. other people might look at that and despair. call it compare and

despair. we call it compare and despair. we call it compare and despair and it's really, really hard to acknowledge that we never really know what's going on behind closed doors or in other people's lives. and that's why believe it's really why i believe it's really important for people with a pubuc important for people with a public profile to talk about the campaigns that they're running to be able to say, i'm, i'm struggling too, or this is the thing that i've overcome because we we're very imitative creatures, human beings. we learn by copying other people. and if we see amazing people like frankie who have come through arguably one of life's greatest traumas to rebuild her life and actually triumph over adversity , we it gives a lot of adversity, we it gives a lot of other people hope. >> frankie, going back to you about saying, you know, obviously you're almost at the same age when you lost your mother there do you find mother. is there do you find that it's sort of a bit of a roller coaster where you're having moments where you feel like you're on top of things and you're the and you're bringing up the kids, and then have then all of a sudden you have thoughts , you know, and i'm thoughts, you know, and i'm sorry to ask you. and yeah, but not being there for your children and the effect that,

that could have. so does that does you? does that happen to you? >> have my days >> obviously i have my down days like everyone does. no like a lot. everyone does. no one can sit here and say they don't have down days, but like even having the twins, we moved into a house we just got we got it to like build and we had two twin babies. we still carried on that build. it was hard on our relationship and my myself and my obviously but i've my partner. obviously but i've done everything for them. we both have . we we've, we're doing both have. we we've, we're doing this whole life for them. it's like a new adventure for us. obviously, as maddie and i think , oh my god, to me, my mum was like big woman, but she was like this big woman, but she was only so young caroline only 37, so young caroline flack, was only 40. like, flack, she was only 40. like, it's so sad and a lot of what i'm talking about women here are so many men and young boys are committing suicide as well now because obviously it's trying to get the boys and the men to speak as well. i think women are very strong minded when it comes to like talking about but to like talking about stuff, but especially , i think, for men and especially, i think, for men and boys, they definitely . need to

boys, they definitely. need to speak a bit more. >> for women, it's actually quite a self—soothing thing to actually chat. yeah other critics would it gossiping, critics would call it gossiping, but not but obviously it's not gossiping. it's very soothing but obviously it's not gossiping.where very soothing but obviously it's not gossiping.where you soothing but obviously it's not gossiping. where you canthing but obviously it's not gossiping.where you can swap behaviour where you can swap information. men don't have that. they have that that. they don't have that release the feel good hormone release of the feel good hormone that talking. so you that comes from talking. so you actually have to encourage people. i the fact that people. and i love the fact that the campaign is called time to talk, but actually also talk, but actually it's also important it is about important to listen. it is about paying important to listen. it is about paying to the to the paying attention to the to the friend of yours who has perhaps started to withdraw , or funnily started to withdraw, or funnily enough, who is perhaps becoming a bit more gregarious. what what is that mask actually trying to hide? be alert for your friends in the way that you would love them to be alert for you. >> yeah. and pete, you're in a campaign at the moment, aren't you? which is giving same you? which is giving the same sort that is. it sort of message that it is. it is talk. okay to to is time to talk. it's okay to to be be open if you're struggling and, a guy , i went and, you know, as a guy, i went through 90s, through that in the 90s, you know, to talk know, not being able to talk about thought about things because i thought not only was taboo, but you're weak. >> it was a sign of weakness to

talk. and the problem is that actually, you don't know how strong you are by talking. that's it's so it's so that's right. it's so it's so the opposite of what you think. but what surprises me is still now you know, i get people all the time, even from our campaign. another way people are saying, oh, you know, i thought i was alone in this, i thought i was alone. so actually, when other they say , oh, other people talk, they say, oh, there going there are other people going through but yet it's still through this, but yet it's still taboo, yet still so hard to taboo, yet it's still so hard to break this barrier. >> but that's why it's so important. things like your campaign and even us sitting here talking i mean, here talking today, i mean, if that just helps one person sitting going , that's that just helps one person sittiri| going , that's that just helps one person sittiri feel. going , that's that just helps one person sittiri feel. i going , that's that just helps one person sittiri feel. i have>ing , that's that just helps one person sittiri feel. i have my , that's that just helps one person sittiri feel. i have my down's that just helps one person sittiri feel. i have my down days. how i feel. i have my down days. i where really, i have days where it's really, really tough and we do have to pay really tough and we do have to pay who are we pay attention to who are we going pay attention to who are we goiibecause think there's >> because i think there's nothing psyching nothing worse than psyching yourself up talk to. maybe yourself up to talk to. maybe that friend that that trusted friend or that colleague. maybe a family member, can't help you. member, and they can't help you. they how to support they don't know how to support you. what you. they don't know what to say. good you do say. that's a good so you do definitely need sometimes get definitely need to sometimes get signposts. that's what signposts. and maybe that's what your is doing. it's your campaign is doing. or it's about saying there are places

like are other like samaritans, there are other places through our heads together. you know , you were together. you know, you were talking on the breakfast show, uh, stephen and anne were talking to the military people who have also got campaigns around mental health. there are definitely can definitely places where you can get and really, get heard and really, irrespective of who we are in life, we just want three things. we want to feel safe. we want to feel loved. above all, we feel loved. but above all, we want to feel heard. so it's behoves on the rest of us to listen a bit. >> don't forget, you can >> and don't forget, you can go anonymous. up anonymous. you can ring up anonymously. that's another thing to say who thing you don't have to say who you and you can just be you are and you can just be someone unknown to them and get the help that you need. so it's really, really important to talk and we really, really appreciate you guys coming on. >> such an important >> it's such an important conversation have. you conversation to have. thank you both thank frankie, both of you. thank you frankie, thank very joining thank you very much for joining us. morning. don't us. this morning. uh, now don't go anywhere. lots more to come. and next, we're going to be and up next, we're going to be discussing divisive of discussing divisive topic of joint bank accounts. does a relationship really mean sharing everything , including your everything, including your

finances ? we're going to be finances? we're going to be talking about that, aren't we? because we've got opposing views. >> tell me, how do you feel about that? >> tell after this >> i'll tell you after this short

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morning, haven't we, uh, couples that bank together stay together. yeah. not quite sure if that's how the saying goes. yeah i think that was meant to be. um, but it is a conundrum that couples up and down the country every day. should country face every day. should they share a bank account? um is it natural next step as a it the natural next step as a relationship develops or is it right to want to hold on to your own financial independence? >> do the pros outweigh the cons 7 >> do the pros outweigh the cons ? a faster growing account versus difference of spending versus a difference of spending habits? it's a very interesting it's a very good point, actually quite different views but i quite different views but i quite yeah. quite different views but i qui'so'eah. quite different views but i qui'so lsih. quite different views but i qui'so is joint the key >> so is joint banking the key to a long and happy relationship. well joining us now to the bottom this now to get to the bottom of this is psychologist doctor louise goddard crawley . very good to goddard crawley. very good to see this doctor . uh see you this morning doctor. uh what your thoughts on this what are your thoughts on this one should if you're in a long time relationship, should you be sharing bank account? sharing a bank account? the answer is it's not simple. answer is it's not that simple. >> it depends on what >> ah, it all depends on what beliefs you have about money. so we all have a certain set of beliefs which then drive our actions and thoughts about

money. now, money isn't just about currency, it's symbolic of so many things. it's probably starts in childhood. what was your experience of money? was it easy? was it difficult? did it create conflict ? so then coming create conflict? so then coming into adulthood, we have those set of beliefs which drives how we then decide whether to have a joint bank account or not. >> that is so interesting. it is so personal, isn't it? i think a lot of it does does hark back to your childhood. i even think between me and my fiance now we've just got we've we've just got engaged. we've always finances. always had separate finances. i like little like shopping probably a little bit much. do you tell us bit too much. do you tell us more? um, so we have different spending habits. that's spending habits. so that's probably it probably why we've kept it separately and probably. why's that? so, but i think that? we've done so, but i think now we would maybe look to have a account. okay but a joint bank account. okay but then if we do have different spending habits, which i need to change what you change my ways, what are you talking about? change my ways, what are you talkingare )ut? change my ways, what are you talkingare you guys. >> it? are you guys. >> it? are you guys. >> we are. yeah. we're quite good money. good at talking about money. >> what to >> when you're not sure what to do, anything. do anything. >> money. >> keep my money. >> keep my money. >> wait. spend >> just wait. spend my money, then what you're to do. >> whereas quite. you're

>> whereas you're quite. you're quite and romantic quite old fashioned and romantic about it, aren't you? he's like, quite old fashioned and romantic about it , aren't you? he's like, quite old fashioned and romantic about it allen't you? he's like, quite old fashioned and romantic about it all together. he's like, quite old fashioned and romantic about it all together. what's(e, lump it all together. what's yoursthink a discussion. >> i think it's a discussion. i think you're right. think you're very right. you know, depend know, it does depend on upbringing. you know, some upbringing. so you know, some some cultures think that, you know , you should always know, you should always keep your something you your own money. something you should so there should all be together. so there is but you grow is part of that. but as you grow older, to figure it is part of that. but as you grow old

where they are with finances and not getting offended because i think a lot of people, if they are talking about keeping their finances you'd finances separate, i guess you'd worry about offending a partner. i long as you're i think as long as you're transparent that, because transparent about that, because you your position you could be your your position could don't want to be could be i don't want to be transparent, transparent transparent, but be transparent about not wanting to be transparent. if that makes sense. just about open sense. so it's just about open dialogue. i mean , you have to dialogue. i mean, you have to understand, though, if somebody has relationship and has come into a relationship and somebody has, you know , created somebody has, you know, created something before meeting you, you can understand someone being a bit scared or protective or protective. >> yeah, but i think and out of this conversation, i have realised it's probably when you have children , that whole have children, that whole attitude changes because actually you're one unit, right? you are one unit when you get married, but much more so when you have children. so you've got a of time. thanks. yeah, a bit of time. thanks. yeah, i'll to help you out here. i'll try to help you out here. >> some my side. >> yeah. got some on my side. yeah it is different when yeah it is, it is different when there involved, yeah it is, it is different when therethere? involved, yeah it is, it is different when therethere? because volved, yeah it is, it is different when therethere? because i>lved, yeah it is, it is different when therethere? because i mean, not isn't there? because i mean, not that this is going in

that this is going to happen in your but if the worst your case, but if, if the worst were to happen and were to were to happen and you were to divorce, there would divorce, then there would probably be a 5050 anyway, probably be a 5050 split anyway, would not? so it becomes would there not? so it becomes different . yeah, it becomes the different. yeah, it becomes the children's money in a lot of ways anyway. >> well that's that's >> well that's true. that's true. an true. but again, it's an evolution isn't it? the relationship changes when children become part of the equation. again transparency, equation. so again transparency, empathy, communication, passion. >> and i guess as well boundanes >> and i guess as well boundaries are really important aren't they. boundaries are really important to set, especially if you have things like different spending habits as it would be in my case. >> well, if that's the thing, the belief about money, what does money symbolise to you? so for me, money is fun . it's about for me, money is fun. it's about experience for my partner. i feel the same way about saving. it's about longevity. so it's interesting. >> i mean, we're going to want to hear from people. we'd love to hear from people. we'd love to actually hear your views on this. um, i, i guess one of the things i'm thinking is, do you think that certain cultures will be adam ant in generations to

come, to stick to the way that their generations had taught them? because you know, again, some of those cultures remain in that culture. true. obviously, we were brought up with a greek family and we had our own culture. but i grew up in the uk, in australia. and so you see how everyone else is and it changes. do you think that's a big, part of big, important part of it, of where you are? >> i think it's really difficult because society's changing so much, like much, isn't it? like those traditional roles aren't what don't like perhaps what don't look like perhaps what they used to look like. so it's difficult to say, yeah , we'd difficult to say, yeah, we'd love to hear from you guys. >> yeah, we really would. doctor louise crawley. louise got our crawley. thank you. time. you. so much for your time. really to your thoughts you. so much for your time. re'that. to your thoughts you. so much for your time. re'that. youto your thoughts you. so much for your time. re'that. you will your thoughts you. so much for your time. re'that. you will certainlyoughts you. so much for your time. re'that. you will certainly have s on that. you will certainly have a home. are you an old a view at home. are you an old romantic like pete? what's yours is . lump it all together. is mine. lump it all together. that of . that kind of. >> no, it's what's mine is mine. and mine. isn't >> no, it's what's mine is mine. and how mine. isn't >> no, it's what's mine is mine. and how it mine. isn't >> no, it's what's mine is mine. and how it goes? mine. isn't that how it goes? >> like it that way. yeah, >> i like it that way. yeah, but, um. or do you like to keep things separate? do you let us know what you think about that one? gb news.com. we one? gb views at gb news.com. we would love hear from you on would love to hear from you on that , or any

would love to hear from you on that, or any stories that that, or any of the stories that we talking today. that, or any of the stories that wmemorialng today. that, or any of the stories that wmemorial wall today. that, or any of the stories that wmemorial wall is today. that, or any of the stories that wmemorial wall is going y. that, or any of the stories that wmemorial wall is going to be a memorial wall is going to be set up in commemoration of the crooked house pub in staffordshire. do you remember that whole saga ? it was burnt that whole saga? it was burnt down following an arson attack last year. >> yeah. locals hope that people will ride on the wall in support of the pub and share their memories , while gb news west memories, while gb news west midlands reporterjack memories, while gb news west midlands reporter jack carson joins us now. >> very good morning to you jack. and we all remember this saga of the crooked pub. six months on and the community missed it, don't they ? missed it, don't they? >> oh, hugely . this, missed it, don't they? >> oh, hugely. this, this community really came together . community really came together. you saw it come together. of course, when we had that fire and then the subsequent demolition, course, of the demolition, of course, of the pub, still active pub, there are still active investigations ongoing from staffordshire police and the council well. of course , into council as well. of course, into that fire that demolition . so that fire in that demolition. so we're not going to speculate on that. but of course, this event today is all that today is all about that community together. today is all about that corcourse,( together. today is all about that corcourse,( months together. today is all about that corcourse,( months from 1er. of course, six months on from that tragedy. and marco longhi is the mp for dudley north, the

mp here. you've been really supportive this campaign. why supportive of this campaign. why did today? did you want to be here today? >> this is huge. this is six >> oh, this is huge. this is six months to the day that a huge asset the community was first asset in the community was first burnt and then and then completely demolished. this was ripping people's history, people's legacy , people's people's legacy, people's connection to the area , away connection to the area, away from them in the most brutal way. so they've messed with the wrong people because , you know, wrong people because, you know, i'm very, very pleased where the police are, where south staffordshire district council is. i'm actually seeing that they further ahead than they are further ahead than i might have expected them be. might have expected them to be. six months down on, but this is today, . all of our today, a renewed. all of our commitment. it's like those vows when you go to church and you're married and you want to tell everybody, are here and we're everybody, we are here and we're here the long haul, are here for the long haul, we are not away. are committed not going away. we are committed to and what to each other. and that's what i'm we are i'm saying as well. we are committed the crooked committed to seeing the crooked house by brick. house rebuilt brick by brick. >> that's what you've taken this campaign to parliament as well, with you're trying to with debates. you're trying to introduce called the introduce something called the

crooked house law. tell us about that. campaign there. that. and your campaign there. >> so of course, the crooked house just one of many, many house is just one of many, many pubs up and down the country that have got a heritage value, a and many of a historic value, and many of these are getting ripped away from their local communities, from their local communities, from unscrupulous developers and perhaps even, you know , brewers perhaps even, you know, brewers who want to see them realise the maximum amount of value when they come to sell them. so i want to try and see if we can change the law and make sure that the risk that that this might happen elsewhere as well as we have seen many times, is reduced to minimum . and reduced to a minimum. and there's role for the there's a role for the government there's a role there's a role for the gov localent there's a role there's a role for the gov local councils:here's a role there's a role for the gov local councils in re's a role there's a role for the govlocal councils in all a role there's a role for the gov local councils in all of role for local councils in all of that. i want to bring that together. >> yeah, people are going be >> yeah, people are going to be putting memories putting tags of their memories on that we can on the on the tree that we can probably behind us. what probably see behind us. what is your say what are you your tag? say what are you remembering about remembering today about the crooked remembering today about the cro> oh crikey. so this was about coal mining. was about coal mining. this was about limestone coal mining. this was about limestbashing. the crooked house metal bashing. the crooked house has seen all of this, has seen a lot of suffering. and it's seen also moments of happiness. lot of suffering. and it's seen also moments of happiness . and

also moments of happiness. and what i am saying is, is that we this is about us. this is about the black country as a whole. and we will be bringing it back brick by brick . brick by brick. >> marco, thank you very much for joining us on gb news this forjoining us on gb news this morning. just hearing from marco there. of course, you can see just of a commitment just how much of a commitment both and this community have both he and this community have to rebuilt. to getting this place rebuilt. >> commitment and real >> but yeah, commitment and real passion pub. passion for their local pub. thank much, jack carson passion for their local pub. thebringing much, jack carson passion for their local pub. thebringing us1uch, jack carson passion for their local pub. thebringing us that jack carson passion for their local pub. thebringing us that story carson passion for their local pub. thebringing us that story .arson passion for their local pub. thebringing us that story. the1 for bringing us that story. the most british thing i think i've ever seen. memorial wall be ever seen. memorial wall to be erected site that they erected to a pub site that they missed. much. six months missed. so very much. six months on, brilliant stuff . do let us on, brilliant stuff. do let us know what you think about that. >> thank you guys. now on this show really i'm show and i'm really excited. i'm already looking at our next guest about making you guest. it's about making you smile. we talk about serious smile. yes we talk about serious topics, also want to topics, but we also want to bnng topics, but we also want to bring some happy stories as bring you some happy stories as well. and the news of amazing people who amazing things . so people who do amazing things. so this week we've got our britain's greatest honorary . britain's greatest honorary. although he's sort of not british, but we're making he's going to be an honorary brit for us today. today. yeah. and that

is sean millis. >> yes. sean has a very inspiring story. he's been on quite journey . he suffers quite the journey. he suffers from syndrome , which is from hunter syndrome, which is a rare disorder where the rare genetic disorder where the body doesn't properly break down sugar molecules it can cause sugar molecules and it can cause abnormalities in organs and problems with lung capacity and heanng problems with lung capacity and hearing as well with weekly hospital trips for infusions, sean uses singing as a freedom as a form of voice. >> australia contestant contests and now a tiktok sensation . and and now a tiktok sensation. and he really is. sean millis has released a new hit song, waiting on a miracle. let's just take a listen to this. the fair will not give up. >> that's the way to go . who >> that's the way to go. who knows, things could be better , knows, things could be better, better. and i'm trying to keep it together. i'm still waiting on a miracle to come on i'm waiting on a miracle to come . on waiting on a miracle to come. on >> you see now i'll tell you why i'm so excited. because i've

been following your story. um. and i've just. i've just been so amazed that you've had these terrible trolls attacking you for so long. and instead of replying , which for so long. and instead of replying, which you don't, i've seen you. you reply to all the lovely messages you're a shining example of how someone should handle a situation like this. now they've told you you've turned to music and it's becoming hugely successful . becoming hugely successful. successful. i'm stumbling my words here, so just tell us what happened. tell us how this all began. >> oh well, i started . singing >> oh well, i started. singing and i put out a song called waiting on a miracle. and it became viral. yeah, through , um, became viral. yeah, through, um, a lookalike of rasmus hoiland who plays manchester united. who plays for manchester united. yeah it was. >> you're a fan of. >> yeah. so unbelievable. and so i jumped on it and i wanted to show my support because hoiland is younger than me. he has so much pressure being in manchester and yeah, manchester united and yeah, i just wanted to show my support and what's it like for you now? >> because i know you're a massive manchester united as massive manchester united fan as

well. you well. what's it like for you being england being in england now? >> because i've >> it's incredible because i've never never not never been i've never not welcome, welcome. yeah, went welcome, welcome. yeah, i went to palace yesterday. to buckingham palace yesterday. you all the you go i went to i did all the tourist things and it was really exciting . exciting. >> a bit colder than australia right now. >> it's refreshing. >> it's refreshing. >> yeah. well i was ask >> yeah. well i was going to ask you though, you, you >> yeah. well i was going to ask you the ugh, you, you >> yeah. well i was going to ask you the ugh, did you, you >> yeah. well i was going to ask you the ugh, did you |, you >> yeah. well i was going to ask you the ugh, did you think you >> yeah. well i was going to ask you the ugh, did you think , you >> yeah. well i was going to ask you the ugh, did you think , did did the song, did you think, did you think anyone would, you know , grab on like they did , grab on to it like they did because i mean it's become huge . because i mean it's become huge. >> i had no idea. it's always a dream. but it was it was really special. like i've had some overwhelming but beautiful messages about it from different families and even friends, and i just, yeah, i make them proud. then just makes me happy. >> you're a very humble guy. i was going to ask to about coming to england. obviously, you know, you hospital visits. you have weekly hospital visits. i'm no, you go for it. i'm so sorry. no, you go for it. i'm so sorry. no, you go for it. i'm wanting ask. you. go for it. >> he's very excited about this. >> he's very excited about this. >> really about you >> i'm really excited about you being have these being on so you have these weekly visits , right? weekly hospital visits, right? and it's really difficult for you just constant. and it's really difficult for you relentless just constant. and it's really difficult for you relentless andist constant. and it's really difficult for you relentless and it's onstant. it's relentless and it's forever. yeah. so to escape that forever. yeah. so to escape that for a minute and come to the uk,

what does that mean for you. >> it's incredible . and it's >> it's incredible. and it's incredible because going to the hospital every week for the rest of my life means i don't like leave much. i don't leave, yeah. and get to do things. so i think the main thing that i want to do, once i'm out of the hospital chair is sing, you have the most incredible voice, your voice. >> i could to you sing >> i could listen to you sing all day. it is amazing. >> i could listen to you sing all day. it is amazing . you were all day. it is amazing. you were on the voice australia, weren't you, last i believe. what you, last year, i believe. what was that experience for was that experience like for you? must know was that experience like for you? got must know was that experience like for you? got most ust know was that experience like for you? got most incredible you've got the most incredible voice. you went there in voice. but you went there in front of the judges and was front of the judges and it was just the wasn't it ? just about the voice, wasn't it? >> scary, but it's >> yeah, it was scary, but it's something i want to do. for years and years. i wanted to do that, i started getting that, and i started getting following on instagram and tiktok they know my tiktok. but they didn't know my story. didn't. didn't story. they didn't. they didn't know about hospital. they know about the hospital. they didn't so didn't know why i was so passionate singing and passionate about singing and where the where it comes from. in the heart. , being able to heart. and yeah, being able to share my story was something that i've always wanted. and yeah, i'm really , really happy. yeah, i'm really, really happy. so okay, so you started off and people were being cruel, but

then when you were explaining what you were going through and your hospital visits , people your hospital visits, people were cruel, which were still being cruel, which angered lot at that point. angered me a lot at that point. >> what are your thoughts ? are >> what are your thoughts? are you just thinking? do you know what i there's so much more to i'm just going to do what i want to do and i don't really care what was your thinking, because it's cruel what they're doing. >> exactly . i think i've >> yeah, exactly. i think i've always someone to just always been someone to just never up. and once i start never give up. and once i start something, i don't stop. just keep what you love and keep doing what you love and hopefully can that hopefully i can provide that message people to just message for other people to just the of hope and to just the message of hope and to just if you're happy with something and then just just for it. if you're happy with something and then just just for it . go and then just just go for it. go for and tonight, where are you >> and tonight, where are you going after? yeah, i really finally, to finally, we're heading to manchester and we're actually going to see a game at old trafford. we're going to see man united. i can't say like congratulations players. >> to see. we'll have >> we'll have to see. we'll have to but i've heard stories to say. but i've heard stories about atmosphere is about how the atmosphere is amazing there. >> oh sean, you're going to have the best i'm so the absolute best time. i'm so happy to happy you're getting up to manchester well manchester united. well congratulations our

congratulations for becoming our honorary greatest britain. you so deserve it . i want to ask so deserve it. i want to ask you. i'm putting you on the spot now. can you sing a little bit acapella , please? waiting acapella, please? waiting on a miracle. just the miracle. so you've just got the most voice want to most incredible voice we want to hear most incredible voice we want to heawon't cups too loud in my >> won't cups too loud in my head last night? who knows where i've been every day the demons come back to call . come back to call. >> you are sure . thank you so >> you are sure. thank you so much i. i put you on the spot. you've got the most incredible voice. thank you so much. wonderful to meet you. do stay with us. you do not want to miss this. we're going to be meeting the ladies behind this hilarious video, which has gone super viral online. 20 million views, i believe . that's on my good i believe. that's on my good .gov renee . .gov renee. >> not be able to guess what got those girls in such a giggle. >> it is fantastic . they're both >> it is fantastic. they're both going to be on the sofa with us

a little bit later on. you are watching and listening to saturday they saturday morning live. they probably are coming through the window britain's new window on gb news, britain's new . channel. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers , sponsors of up. boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello again . it's aidan >> hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast blustery showers will continue for most of us during the rest of day. some brighter spells of the day. some brighter spells and it turn drier in the and it will turn drier in the south towards the end of the day. but for the being, day. but for the time being, we've pressure charge we've got low pressure in charge , if main storm, henk, , even if the main storm, henk, has moved off the scene around this low, we've got various occluded fronts bringing some longer spells of rain, but in general showers as general it's blustery showers as we head into the evening, some clear spells emerging particularly the particularly towards the southwest, and by midnight, certainly some drier weather pushing into southern parts , pushing into southern parts, more persistent rain lingering across . the northeast of across. the northeast of

scotland, shetland staying cold with some snow and frost here a little bit of touch of frost further south under those clear skies. so a chilly start here, but where the brightest but that's where the brightest weather first thing weather will be. first thing thursday . now that doesn't last thursday. now that doesn't last long it will turn long because it will turn cloudier mid—morning and cloudier from mid—morning and outbreaks increasingly heavy outbreaks of increasingly heavy and persistent rain will spread into southern coastal counties through the day. that could cause some issues given the saturated ground at the moment . saturated ground at the moment. but further north, we've got the sunshine remaining across north wales , north midlands, east wales, north midlands, east anglia , showers for scotland and anglia, showers for scotland and northern ireland, northern england as well and friday again is a showery day. the worst of the showers will be across

i >> -- >> good morning , >> good morning, i'm >> good morning , i'm peter >> good morning, i'm peter andre alongside ellie costello , and alongside ellie costello, and this is saturday morning live . this is saturday morning live. >> and we start with the biggest story of the last few days , the story of the last few days, the family of scarlet jenkins , the family of scarlet jenkins, the girl who killed transgender teenager brianna ghey, have said they are truly sorry for her horrific crimes. it's as jenkinson . and her accomplice, jenkinson. and her accomplice, eddie ratcliffe , now both 16, eddie ratcliffe, now both 16, were handed life sentences for the brutal and sadistic murder. the court heard how the pair were far from normal homes. so were far from normal homes. so we are asking today what caused these seemingly average teenagers to commit this brutal crime ? is it nature or is it

crime? is it nature or is it nurture ? nurture? >> also, the manhunt enters its third day for the suspect in the alkaline substance attack , as alkaline substance attack, as police discover containers with corrosive warnings during a raid in newcastle. now we'll look into this more with our papers, reviews , and we'll also be reviews, and we'll also be talking about the sad news of the death of johnny irwin yesterday , our showbiz reporter, yesterday, our showbiz reporter, stephanie takyi will be joining us later . us later. on >> thanks so much forjoining us this saturday morning. lots more to come, including leading the woman who has taken the internet by storm for. yeah, potentially the wrong reasons. let's take a look . as i've been held just

look. as i've been held just amazing. it'sjust so look. as i've been held just amazing. it's just so good. >> oh my gosh . >> oh my gosh. >> oh my gosh. >> obviously didn't expected this baby . that brilliant love that. >> yes, that's what happened when lisa was locked out of her house whilst desperate for the loo. she decided that the window was the best way in. and you do want to see how this ends. >> i mean, next time she'll definitely take a key . i think definitely take a key. i think we're very excited to that we're very excited to say that lisa is with and will lisa is with us today and will join later join us in the studio later on, coming via the window by the coming in via the window by the window remaining window and hopefully remaining decent it's national ice cream >> and it's national ice cream for breakfast day. what a fantastic day. a fun little tradition . we're going to be tradition. we're going to be getting to the bottom of it and of course we'll be trying some ice cream. joined ice cream. we'll be joined by gelato parlour owner hmm'hmm . gelato parlour owner hmm'hmm. and of course don't forget we want to hear from you this show is nothing without you. do keep your emails coming in. we're going to share as many as we can in just a few minutes. vaiews@gbnews.com. but but before we do anything else here are your news headlines .

are your news headlines. >> very good morning to you. it is 11:02 i'm aaron armstrong . is 11:02 i'm aaron armstrong. let's get you up to date with the latest headlines. the uk says remains a steady , fast says it remains a steady, fast ally of united states after ally of the united states after washington launched of washington launched dozens of strikes the middle . east. strikes in the middle. east. well, 85 targets were hit in syria and iraq in response to a drone attack on a us military base that killed three soldiers last weekend . the government last weekend. the government says it supports washington is right to respond to attacks from militant groups linked to iran, iraq has warned the strikes will have a disastrous consequences for the region . power sharing is for the region. power sharing is set to return to northern ireland later , two years after ireland later, two years after it collapsed. it comes after the democratic unionist party ended its long running boycott over post—brexit trade arrangements . post—brexit trade arrangements. it means, for the first time in history, northern ireland will have a nationalist first

minister. sinn fein, the biggest party in stormont, after the elections. two years ago, will nominate michelle o'neill. the dup, as the largest unionist party, to nominate . party, will get to nominate. a deputy. now the two roles have equal power and cannot exist without the other political commentator doctor john coulter says he's hopeful the new deal will work. >> there is a mood of optimism. i think, as i said, the last chance saloon , an attitude that chance saloon, an attitude that i mentioned . they know that if i mentioned. they know that if it doesn't work this time, the government's patience is going to run out and let's put this day in perspective, uh , day in perspective, uh, basically, if sir jeffrey hadn't been able to agree a deal and say, stormont had been mothballed, it would have supped mothballed, it would have slipped down the league table of importance for the prime minister >> now a manhunt is still on going for a suspected chemical attacker, abdul azadi, who has significant injuries on the right hand side of his face,

were seen at london's kings cross last on wednesday night. a 31 year old mother, who was attacked with a corrosive substance remains in hospital. her two young daughters were also hurt, but not as badly as first thought. a forensic tests are being carried out on two empty containers found at an address in newcastle , containing address in newcastle, containing address in newcastle, containing a corrosive warning labels. former met police detective chief superintendent kevin hurley says there are few steps the suspect can take. >> he has either , uh, gone into >> he has either, uh, gone into hiding or is being hidden by friends or relatives , or friends or relatives, or alternatively , um, he's killed alternatively, um, he's killed himself because where he comes from , uh, culturally, because from, uh, culturally, because i've worked in afghanistan a couple of tours in kabul, the view of some elements of the afghan community is that women are lesser mortals than dogs. so if he's with a group of afghans who think he's quite rightly

punished , potentially someone punished, potentially someone who was in a relationship ukip, they will almost see nothing wrong with what he's done . wrong with what he's done. >> meanwhile, the home office is being urged to carry out an urgent review into how abdul azadi was allowed to remain in the uk . zigi, who is from the uk. zigi, who is from afghanistan, was convicted of a sexual offence in 2018 and was given a suspended sentence. he was granted asylum after two failed attempts when a priest confirmed he had converted to christianity . three people have christianity. three people have been stabbed at a train station in paris, a suspect has been arrested following the incident at gare de lyon this morning . at gare de lyon this morning. none of the victims suffered life threatening injuries. french police are still working to establish a motive and the train driver strike is again hitting parts of the country . hitting parts of the country. members of aslef at avanti west coast bst, east midlands and west midlands railway are staging a 24 hour walkout over pay staging a 24 hour walkout over pay and conditions. the action started earlier this week and will continue on monday, while a ban on overtime will last until tuesday . a football fans

tuesday. a football fans attending a league games across the country are likely to be among those affected . aslef says among those affected. aslef says drivers haven't had a pay rise for almost five years. the government , though, is urging government, though, is urging the union to accept an offer made . senior made last year. senior conservative mp will stand down at the next general election for family reasons. sir bob neill served as an mp since 2006 and was a junior minister in the coalition government under david cameron . he joins a series of cameron. he joins a series of mps who've announced they won't contest the next election , contest the next election, expected to be held in the autumn for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. scan this qr code or you can go to gbnews.com slash alerts. that's it for the moment. now back to ellie and peter . peter. >> welcome back to saturday morning live. now of course we start with the deeply upsetting story of brianna ghey guy who was stabbed 28 times in broad

daylight last february by two people she believed were her friends. >> yesterday , the 216 year olds >> yesterday, the 216 year olds were named in court as brianna's murderers and sentenced scarlett jenkinson for 22 years and eddie ratcliffe for 20 years. jenkinson in particular was said to have enjoyed the killing of brianna ghey, so much that she had a desire to kill again, while the court also heard that the pair were from normal, respectable homes and had never beenin respectable homes and had never been in trouble with the police before. >> so today we're asking, as i'm sure many of you up and down the country are asking as well, how do two seemingly average 16 year olds murder a friend in such a sadistic and brutal way? >> does that kind of behaviour come from nurture or nature ? come from nurture or nature? that's the question we're posing today. >> yeah, loads of you getting in touch this morning. we're just going your going to share a few of your emails. um wendy says yes, i think you can be born evil. we are aware of many dogs, are all aware of many dogs, particularly very badly treated, and yet have the most delightful natures when given a chance , i

natures when given a chance, i think incorrect think is politically incorrect to say that people are born evil. but yes , i believe that evil. but yes, i believe that they um, and drew says they are. um, and drew says i knew michael ryan and met him the day before. >> murdered and >> he murdered 17 people and injured during the injured as many during the hungerford massacre. i know this is a different subject up to that day. my experience, he was a normal person, polite and knowledgeable. so >> oh and daniel finally >> oh yeah. and daniel finally says, i do believe that some people born that people are born with that gene. it until they're it remains dormant until they're triggered by something that they see on media social media. see on media or social media. i don't think it's nature. i believe it's nurture. well, do keep your views coming in on that subject. i do think a that subject. i do think it's a question people are question that many people are asking this week , and we'll asking this week, and we'll continue to ask for many days and many weeks following this case. well, joining us now is campaigner and founder of the btec foundation and the mother of breck bednar , the 14 year old of breck bednar, the 14 year old boy who was murdered after being groomed online in 2014. this is his mother, lauren lafave . first his mother, lauren lafave. first of all, lauren, i'm so sorry , of all, lauren, i'm so sorry, um, for your loss. and thank you

so much forjoining us this so much for joining us this morning to discuss just such a horrific crime, which i'm sure must have really struck you this week as well. >> it did . i've thought about >> it did. i've thought about brianna a lot this week. um, because there are similarities in my son breck's case. and this case with killers sort of having , um, just a really what i do consider to be an evil side , a consider to be an evil side, a cold side, and an uncaring side to be able to take a life when lives are so precious. so, yeah , lives are so precious. so, yeah, it's hard hitting . it's hard hitting. >> and you, you think in this day and age trolling and those sorts of things would be regular and there wouldn't be such a thing. and it's just getting worse and worse . i mean, what worse and worse. i mean, what what's being done about it? it's unbelievable . unbelievable. >> i think it is difficult. there's so many issues and things that children face online, from having the algorithms push harmful content towards them, leading them to see more and more, maybe violent or sexualised content , and it or sexualised content, and it becomes normalised. and this ,

becomes normalised. and this, you know, it'll be interesting now to see what comes out with what these two killers were really like , because some of it really like, because some of it has seeped out about, uh, scarlett having to switch schools because she'd given cannabis a younger cannabis gummy to a younger child. mean, not child. i mean, that's not something that my child would ever get away i'd be quite ever get away with. i'd be quite angry if they were doing it themselves, let alone sharing it with child. so with the younger child. so i think much as i don't think that as much as i don't want their names to be glorified because killers, i do because they are killers, i do feel that at least now we can understand more of what was happening in brianna's life and what led to her murder , because what led to her murder, because there was a lot of controversy about this pair being named. >> wasn't there? they were referred to as girl and boy referred to as girl x and boy y throughout trial. the judge throughout the trial. the judge then said that the public interest great that their interest was so great that their names had to be out there. those pictures and names released yesterday. but brianna's father saying now changed his saying he's now changed his mind. wanted them to be mind. he wanted them to be named, but now he says actually, no, only name out no, i want the only name out there to be brianna's. >> i. i watched his his, um , >> i. i watched his his, um, interview and i was heartbroken because i can feel the

heartbroken. he's feeling, and l, heartbroken. he's feeling, and i, i completely understand, but if you don't name the person, you don't learn the lessons of the case and what to look out for next time. um, hopefully we like breck's killer. they'll be banished to prison because they're all similar. they haven't shown remorse. they're not . so, yes, we know not sorry. so, yes, we know their names, but in breck's case, killers changed his case, his killers changed his name anyway so as name in prison. anyway so as much want to blank them much as we want to blank them and they're invisible to us, we need these stories to need to use these stories to learn lessons. >> suspect get >> i suspect they'll get an incredibly much harder time. >> i suspect they'll get an incre(everyoneh harder time. >> i suspect they'll get an incre(everyone knowser time. >> i suspect they'll get an incre(everyone knows whats. >> i suspect they'll get an incre(everyone knows what they now, everyone knows what they look like. >> well, that's the case. >> well, and that's the case. yes. and i think , you know, the yes. and i think, you know, the nature versus nurture question. i actually searching for i actually was searching for a video of, of yours on online safety called snapcash . and i safety called snapcash. and i was then fed a video of, of breck's story and, and um , it breck's story and, and um, it brought me to tears because it was done from many years ago. but the psychologist at the end of the programme basically said breck's had mindset breck's killer had the mindset of a killer. he was always going to kill someone, and that was

with sort of psychological, psychological evaluation done. so i think he wasn't nurtured and he did have an evil nature. so for me, i feel that there are people that are born evil, but there also are ways that they could rehabilitate if they want to, they nurturing to, if they get the nurturing and the love and the support and in breck's case, he didn't get that support and he continued to turn into a and worse turn into a worse and worse monster building, you know, crimes hurting children crimes and hurting children along . along the way. >> just terrific. lauren >> just terrific. well, lauren lafave, thank you much for lafave, thank you so much for joining today and joining us today for and speaking about speaking so bravely about about your what happened to your son and what happened to him. and hopefully lessons can be learned from horrific cases such as this. thank you so much for your time . thank you laura. for your time. thank you laura. now very shortly we're going to be joined by our panel to look through the top stories of this week. any of that, week. but before any of that, we'll a quick look at the we'll have a quick look at the weather, outlook with weather, a brighter outlook with boxt sponsors of weather boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello again! it's aidan mcgivern here from the met

office with the gb news forecast. blustery showers will continue us during continue for most of us during the the day . some the rest of the day. some brighter and it will turn brighter spells and it will turn dner brighter spells and it will turn drier in the south towards the end the day. but for the time end of the day. but for the time being, low pressure in being, we've got low pressure in charge if the main storm, charge, even if the main storm, henk, has moved off the scene around this low, we've got various occluded fronts bringing some longer spells rain , but some longer spells of rain, but in blustery showers in general it's blustery showers as we head into the evening, some clear spells emerging, particularly the particularly towards the south—west, and by midnight certainly some drier weather pushing into southern parts. more persistent rain lingering across the north—east of scotland , shetland staying cold scotland, shetland staying cold with some snow and frost here a little bit. touch of frost further south under those clear skies. so a chilly start here, but that's where brightest but that's where the brightest weather first weather will be. first thing thursday . now that doesn't last thursday. now that doesn't last long because it will turn cloudier from mid—morning and outbreaks of increasingly heavy and persistent rain will spread into the southern coastal counties through the day. that could cause some issues given the saturated ground at the

moment . but further north, we've moment. but further north, we've got the sunshine remaining across wales , north across north wales, north midlands, , showers midlands, east anglia, showers for scotland and northern ireland, northern england as well and friday again is a showery day. the worst of the showers will be across eastern and western coasts. in between some sunny spells and as we go into the weekend, high pressure builds. that means drier, but it also means colder with temperatures for away . temperatures for away. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers spot hours of weather on gb news as. >> welcome back. well, i'm delighted to say that we have a wonderful panel going through the top stories of the day . the top stories of the day. we're formed by broadcaster joined by broadcaster and former special to michael gove, special adviser to michael gove, charlie broadcast charlie rowley. the broadcast esther stanhope and reality tv star frankie essex . very good star frankie essex. very good morning to all three of you. really good to have you. this morning let's start , shall morning and let's start, shall we? mean the very, very sad we? i mean the very, very sad story of derek

story yesterday of derek draper's funeral and kate garraway and the beautiful children saying goodbye to their dad as well. frankie, you were really moved by those scenes, weren't you? of the children , weren't you? of the children, especially darcey at the funeral i >> -- >> that's 5mm >> that's that's amazing. what an amazing little girl. like she'll be so proud forever for doing that . you know, she looked doing that. you know, she looked beautiful as such beautiful as well, such a beautiful as well, such a beautiful little. >> yeah, it really such >> yeah, it really was such a moving day, wasn't it, esther? >> and i love kate >> i know, and i love kate garraway. she's so and garraway. she's just so warm and she's, know, got she's, you know, she's got everything. she? the everything. hasn't she? but the guest john and tony guest list, elton john and tony blair and cherie i mean it was, it was quite phenomenal wasn't it. i mean, you know, it was like an a list. it. i mean, you know, it was like an a list . i think like an a list. i think it's just great when people pay like an a list. i think it's just respectsnhen people pay like an a list. i think it's just respects and people pay like an a list. i think it's just respects and they)le pay like an a list. i think it's just respects and they , e pay like an a list. i think it's just respects and they , um,y like an a list. i think it's just respects and they , um, i their respects and they, um, i think had a really , really think she had a really, really hard time. kate garraway did. she was looking after him , you she was looking after him, you know, i mean, what a life. but i really think that it kind of it was a respectful day and it made me really cry, made me cry. and obviously darcey with the children that kate had children thinking that kate had to be mum and dad for a long penod to be mum and dad for a long period of time while derek was

ill. >> but then officially become mum and dad. now it must be really such a huge change for the children, even though of course their father was sick. but to actually get to this point, it's horrific and how brave, like you said about her carrying the coffin, that's. yeah, something that's a yeah, that's something that's a very, difficult thing for very, very difficult thing for a child do. i mean , and you child to do. i mean, and you know, personally don't you? know, kate personally don't you? >> so, mean, she has just been >> so, i mean, she has just been incredible through all of this, but it must also so hard. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> think that they're very >> and i think that they're very loved. tell the loved. you can tell that the family and family are very loved. and that's everyone's so that's why everyone's so involved in this story, which was the, the true was really the, the, the true covid story, wasn't it? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it was one of the most affected patients in the country. i think the top five most affected patients by long covid. and i think, charlie, we touched on yesterday, touched on this yesterday, didn't you didn't we? but you know, as you were esther , the coming were saying, esther, the coming together people elton together of people like elton john, and then had tony and john, and then you had tony and chene john, and then you had tony and cherie blair and sir keir starmer well. really cherie blair and sir keir starthe well. really cherie blair and sir keir starthe and ell. really cherie blair and sir keir starthe and the really was the power and the personality of derek that was celebrated yesterday , both sides celebrated yesterday, both sides of life, if you like. celebrated yesterday, both sides of yeahe, if you like.

celebrated yesterday, both sides of yeah , if you like. celebrated yesterday, both sides of yeah , it's'ou like. celebrated yesterday, both sides of yeah , it's a! like. celebrated yesterday, both sides of yeah , it's a combination of >> yeah, it's a combination of the when he was a political >> when he was a political adviser to the labour party and was soul of was always the life and soul of the we hearing, the party, we hearing, he brightened when he brightened up the room when he walked in, gave some very, walked in, but gave some very, very strong advice to very tough and strong advice to tony prime tony blair when he was the prime minister. you've minister. but then you've also got the and personality got the tv and the personality side of, uh, of kate garraway and you know, they're always in the and, you know, the limelight and, you know, this a that's played this is a story that's played out and they've out to the public. and they've all think who's been all everyone i think who's been following story have been following the story have been wishing following the story have been wishto; get better. but him to sort of get better. but obviously that wasn't the case. and yesterday would have been obviously that wasn't the case. aivery yesterday would have been obviously that wasn't the case. aivery difficultay would have been obviously that wasn't the case. aivery difficultay would aave been obviously that wasn't the case. aivery difficultay would a huge zen a very difficult day. but a huge celebration. life celebration. i think of his life and as you say, both sides of his , uh, personality both his, uh, personality and both sides life together his, uh, personality and both sideswas, life together his, uh, personality and both sideswas, icelebrated r his, uh, personality and both sideswas, icelebrated . yeah. was, was, was celebrated. yeah. >> um, and it did look like an absolute beautiful send off. >> yes. i want to talk to you about the price you pay for love, which is in the daily mirror today. keeping the spark alive. 3500 a alive. apparently costs 3500 a yearin alive. apparently costs 3500 a year in your relationship , says year in your relationship, says research. what do you think of that? >> well, i've been married for 20 our 20 years. okay, so our congratulations. congrats. i don't know if it's congratulations or well done , congratulations or well done, you thing. congratulations or well done, youi'm thing. congratulations or well done,

youi'm thinking 3500 pounds. >> i'm thinking 3500 pounds. >> i'm thinking 3500 pounds. >> okay, i'll be honest with you. i just don't think we spend that much. i've suddenly realised i need to start spending more money. >> he needs his game. >> he needs to up his game. yeah, to go out and yeah, he needs to go out and have more. >> and naughty weekends >> and he says naughty weekends away. think they kind of . away. oh, i think they kind of. >> that might cost a bit more . >> that might cost a bit more. >> that might cost a bit more. >> cost a bit more >> that might cost a bit more than three, five. >> they put they put in the >> they put on, they put in the papers like pounds papers like 1500 pounds for a weekend papers like 1500 pounds for a weelend papers like 1500 pounds for a wee! think it costs bit more >> i think it costs a bit more than that. but we do. than that. yeah, but we do. we do cheeky little that do have a cheeky little pub that we, that we meet we don't we, that we meet at. we don't tell kids, they disapprove we, that we meet at. we don't tell going;, they disapprove we, that we meet at. we don't tell going outey disapprove we, that we meet at. we don't tell going out to disapprove we, that we meet at. we don't tell going out to disapub,1e we, that we meet at. we don't tell going out to disapub, you of us going out to the pub, you see. so . so it's a bit of see. um, so. so it's a bit of a role reversal in our family. so we do we so we probably spend a couple of, you know, £8 on a pint or something like that. we so i suppose it's a bit of romance, but there's certainly not pounds worth. not that 3500 pounds worth. so i need my game . need to up my game. >> definitely. >> definitely. >> well frankie, what your >> well frankie, what are your thoughts this? because thoughts on this? because i don't know you, don't know about you, but i thought three half grand. thought three and a half grand. is a year? i don't think is that in a year? i don't think that's too that's quite cheap. >> i must admit, my other half does splash me lot. does splash out on me a lot. yeah he

yeah yeah, he's really good. he takes. does spoil how takes. oh does he spoil you how much would tell me, but much he would never tell me, but he me out. he like we go he takes me out. he like we go on. lovely dates. he took me to like a lovely restaurant i've never been to in london. 34 mayfair christmas. mayfair for christmas. >> question is >> i guess the question is really? then how much it really? then forget how much it costs. should date nights should really be a thing, shouldn't they? you know, within couples. because when you've got families, very easy for families, it's very easy for those and not just if those to go and not just if you've children, you've got children, but obviously , you know, sometimes obviously, you know, sometimes you relationship you can be in a relationship for so and so long, 20 years and congratulations again. and but you know that after a while you start to forget about the important things of, of going out for and going away. out for dinner and going away. it have to cost that it doesn't have to cost that much. think it's much. but do you think it's important, frankie? yeah. >> valentine's >> well, like on valentine's day, year day, for instance, this year we've babies . so we're we've got twin babies. so we're like, booked us go to like, luke's booked us to go to the to colchester zoo. and the zoo, to colchester zoo. and there was a deal. one we're going giraffe. so going to feed the giraffe. so it's out for all of it's like a day out for all of us. then my take is i'm us. and then my take is i'm going to do us a romantic meal indoors while the babies sleep. just go . and oh, and charlie, just go. and oh, and charlie, what's your thoughts on on this

story? >> well, i've never been kissed. no. so he's ready now. >> i will set you up, charlie. >> i will set you up, charlie. >> no. >> no. >> i said to you this week out on a date. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i'm going to set you up. leave it with me. >> someone wants you already. i've a text. i've just had a text. >> oh, thank you, thank you. >> oh, thank you, thank you. >> yes. >> well, i say yes. and a picture. a. oh well, i'll. picture. i'm a. oh well, i'll. they'll and they'll be tall, dark and handsome. >> getting. it. >> i'm getting. i'm on it. >> i'm getting. i'm on it. >> naughty picture. don't >> i'm getting. i'm on it. >> worry1aughty picture. don't >> i'm getting. i'm on it. >> worry .iughty picture. don't you worry. >> and just before we you >> and just before we let you 90, >> and just before we let you go, but didn't go, i've got 20s. but we didn't get jacket. potato get to on our jacket. potato story. but a viral jacket. get to on our jacket. potato story. imaker. a viral jacket. get to on our jacket. potato story. imaker. needl jacket. get to on our jacket. potato story. imaker. need to |cket. get to on our jacket. potato story. imaker. need to lett. get to on our jacket. potato story. imaker. need to let you potato maker. need to let you know. i want to know what know. and i want to know what are your favourite jacket? potato fillings. mine would be cheese beans know about this? >> i like jacket potato. >> i don't like jacket potato. well, no, sorry . well, no, sorry. >> i know i've just lost that catch. >> now haven't i? that's person they've cancelled me already. they've cancelled on me already. >> nice jacket potato. >> nice jacket potato. >> your next guest have told me the potato is the one to the rooster potato is the one to go for the red rooster. so ask them potatoes and a sweet them about potatoes and a sweet potato for you. >> frankie, with tuna and sweetcorn. >> oh, very nice. >> we cover it all here, don't we, charlie, esther and frankie,

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sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> now this is lisa. now lisa has gone viral on social media. this week. i wonder why for a reason. i don't think anybody could possibly expect . not even could possibly expect. not even her. no >> elegant, graceful. even an acrobatic. let's take a look at how lisa has risen to fame this

week . week. >> oh, brilliant. >> oh, brilliant. >> look at this. >> look at this. >> it's absolutely amazing. >> it's absolutely amazing. >> if you are listening on the radio, this is lisa, who , radio, this is lisa, who, casting herself into the window legs in the air falling. >> uh, and, uh, your dress supped >> uh, and, uh, your dress slipped down, drips . slipped down, drips. >> i mean, there's the fact that you . lisa, sister lisa, is you. lisa, sister lisa, is nearly dying of laughter. she can't even . this is. i was gone. can't even. this is. i was gone. >> you know what i don't know what's funny. >> i don't know whether it's you, lisa, and obviously you know, flying free there in the window , stuck, hanging upside window, stuck, hanging upside down. or you. lisa hits your knee, bending over. you couldn't breathe. >> i turned around and i see your legs up there. and then that was it. i looked around and then i'd see all the limbs hanging out. >> and then i was gone and liz, i breathe. i couldn't breathe. >> it was two. >> it was two. >> well, on subject, how >> well, on that subject, how did up? did it all go up? >> oh well, basically we went out that to take her dog out that morning to take her dog to his. and to the vets to have his. and

then , uh, we ended up going then, uh, we ended up going shopping and then she was moaning and she wanted go moaning and she wanted to go toilet moaning, you know. sorry. so ended going so um. yeah, we ended up going home. she home. got home, and then she realised the keys. brilliant. still inside the house? >> no. you locked yourself out . >> no. you locked yourself out. >> no. you locked yourself out. >> literally. so i tried to look for something the floor for, for something on the floor for, like go for window. like to go for the window. there was there. was was nothing there. there was just it? just plants. so who filmed it? her nicole sitting her partner nicole was sitting in they just literally in the car. they just literally phoned me out of me shopping and i'd realised had no keys. i'd realised i had no keys. so she come out to try and she had come out to try and help. so, uh . and i would have help. so, uh. and i would have been better off on my own. i should have never gone out in the i shouldn't , it the first place. i shouldn't, it always happens to us too. every time we there, something happens. >> you the most incredible >> you are the most incredible duo together. >> i mean, loving this and >> i mean, i'm loving this and lisa when you. >> let's take us to that >> so let's take us to that moment. so you've got the window open can because i'm open and you can see because i'm thinking going do thinking how is she going to do this? going leg this? and you're going one leg up, can see you up, one leg up. i can see you thinking, see me doing this thinking, you see me doing this because thinking, this because i'm thinking, is this going weight? going to take my weight? >> not a small girl? >> because i'm not a small girl? you're lie. you're not going to lie. you know, leaning on it know, and i'm leaning on it

thinking going to crack and thinking it's going to crack and it's to me in half. it's going to chop me in half. i thought it was going to be. i was going a&e. was was going to a&e. yeah, i was worried tv. was worried about your tv. i was getting brilliant. worried about your tv. i was get and brilliant. worried about your tv. i was get and then brilliant. worried about your tv. i was get and then you�*illiant. worried about your tv. i was get and then you just nt. go >> and then you just thought, go for it. >> $- $— ? myself in. i had to get in. >> but as i've gone over the left, one slipped. i thought, oh god. i've tried to try god. and then i've tried to try and and the right and sneak it. and then the right one. that's good idea . and one. oh, that's a good idea. and then the arts were banging then the whole arts were banging against the window, right. >> okay, so hang on a second. >> okay, so hang on a second. >> you feel your partner >> so you feel your partner films this right? at no point do you is going to go as you think this is going to go as viral as it did. what happened? like she just posted it. >> didn't . stranger >> well, no, we didn't. stranger post. it. it post. we never posted it. it happened through whatsapp happened shared through whatsapp on personally. oh, and then someone it to your someone shared it to your friends. give it to a friend and a friend's, give to a friend a friend's, give it to a friend and of sudden a and all of a sudden i got a phone call 830 at night saying, you're over the oh god, you're all over the oh my god, brilliant, that brilliant, brilliant. that was it. were just couldn't it. we were just we couldn't sleep, think it. we were just we couldn't scouldn't. think it. we were just we couldn't scouldn't. it's think it. we were just we couldn't scouldn't. it's surreal think it. we were just we couldn't scouldn't. it's surreal man.nk it. we were just we couldn't scouldn't. it's surreal man. it i couldn't. it's surreal man. it feels been picked up feels like i've been picked up by aliens and dropped feels like i've been picked up by somewhere iens and dropped feels like i've been picked up by somewhere .ens and dropped feels like i've been picked up by somewhere . it'sand dropped feels like i've been picked up by somewhere . it's mad.'opped feels like i've been picked up by somewhere . it's mad. anded off somewhere. it's mad. and lisa, the best thing is you're not even embarrassed about it at

all. you're just like, i couldn't get too damn laughing. come on. the whole video was it's just the video. but to everybody, just makes so many everybody, it just makes so many people laugh and like, it's just we're happy. it's we're just so happy. like, it's just. forget your just. will you ever forget your keys? shamed. you're ashamed of it, he says, a bit late to be ashamed of anyone. now. >> your keys >> you won't forget your keys again, can i just ask? again, will you? can i just ask? oh, your neck. >> they stay here. yeah. >> they stay here. yeah. >> never coming off your >> they're never coming off your neck and you're strapped >> they're never coming off your nethere. and you're strapped >> they're never coming off your nethere. i and you're strapped >> they're never coming off your nethere. i can d you're strapped >> they're never coming off your nethere. i can seeyu're strapped >> they're never coming off your nethere. i can see a re strapped >> they're never coming off your nethere. i can see a goodapped in there. i can see a good sports bra there . sports bra there. >> yeah, well, doubled up to >> yeah, well, i'm doubled up to that. andre's that. i like that peter andre's like boob . or two. like for a boob. or two. >> right. let's carry on. >> right. let's carry on. >> no, not at all. not at all i love that. >> that was great. >> that was great. >> that was great. >> that was great love. fantastic. from what i've heard. so, um. sorry >> what was the question again ? >> what was the question again? ihave >> what was the question again? i have been known for that. yes, in the past. >> and hint. so um, honestly, you two have made the nation laugh this week. >> laugh and cry. >> laugh and cry. >> we need it, girls.

>> we need it, girls. >> we need it. i mean, it's just so, so funny. what is the reaction been? people have just been so grateful for this amazing , been so grateful for this amazing, amazing been so grateful for this amazing , amazing people are like amazing, amazing people are like you to a brilliant sports. >> a lot of people thought i'd be and like i'd have be annoyed and like i'd have gone mad. what's point in gone mad. what's the point in going mad? love laughing, going mad? i love laughing, yeah, fun. just yeah, it's just fun. it's just fun. craziness. fun. just uh, craziness. >> there's been >> it's just there's been a couple of people that have said, oh, than couple, oh, more than a couple, but people say, it set people say, no, it was set up. >> set up me >> it didn't look set up to me at all. >> up . >> that up. >> that up. >> so just put that straight for them. >> how them. » how them. >> how that up? >> how could you set that up? i think it's because you see my hand up. but i'm trying to hand go up. but i'm trying to put back in. love put the bad boy back in. i love that mitchell would come out that rob mitchell would come out and him. and phil was trying to join him. so to keep so i was trying to keep what little dignity slide in little dignity i had. slide in down window. little dignity i had. slide in dovthose window. little dignity i had. slide in dovthose wincare fighting >> those two are always fighting against they? against each other, aren't they? >> seen each >> are you two are seen each other years. they're not like other in years. they're not like that the right way up the, uh. >> it's any >> well, if it's any consolation, first time consolation, it's the first time any so any of us have seen him. so there you go. >> we do go out like we do >> when we do go out like we do get filmed all the time, something every something wrong happens every time together. time we do something together. something . yeah. something happens. yeah. >> dying, by the way .

>> ellie's dying, by the way. she can't go. sorry i've lost it. >> honestly. you two are amazing. >> you know what? you're even better in person. like, the video is amazing. better in person. like, the video is amazing . and then video is amazing. and then you're even better in person. honestly >> so that's all you can ever be. taken. be. everyone else is taken. that's yeah that's it? yeah >> oh, i love that. what a message. again for us. message. say that again for us. >> can never yourself >> oh, you can never be yourself because taken . because everybody else is taken. oh look at that. oh would you look at that. >> lovely end lisa >> what a lovely way to end lisa and lisa. amazing. it's been and lisa. so amazing. it's been and lisa. so amazing. it's been a pleasure meeting you and lisa. >> i love that. >> i love that. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> thanks for thanks for making us thanks thanks. >> thanks for thanks for making us lots thanks thanks. >> thanks for thanks for making us lots lots anks thanks. >> thanks for thanks for making us lots lots more thanks. >> thanks for thanks for making us lots lots more to thanks. >> thanks for thanks for making us lots lots more to comes. >> thanks for thanks for making us lots lots more to come on to >> lots lots more to come on to the today . the show today. >> are brilliant. but >> you guys are brilliant. but first, let's get the news headunes first, let's get the news headlines armstrong. first, let's get the news heaohies armstrong. first, let's get the news heaoh dear armstrong. first, let's get the news heaoh dear. armstrong. >> oh dear. >> oh dear. >> it's 1133. >> oh dear. >> it's1133. good morning to you i'm aaron armstrong. the uk says it remains a steadfast ally of the united states after washington launched dozens of strikes in the middle . east with strikes in the middle. east with 85 targets were hit in syria and

iraq, it was in response to a drone attack on a us military base on sunday that killed three soldiers. the government says it supports washington's right to respond to attacks from militant groups linked to iran . iraq has groups linked to iran. iraq has warned, though, that the strikes will have a disastrous consequence for the region . consequence for the region. power sharing set to return to northern ireland two years after it collapsed . it comes after the it collapsed. it comes after the democratic unionist party ended its long running boycott over post—brexit trade arrangements . post—brexit trade arrangements. and for the first time in history, northern ireland will have a nationalist first minister sinn fein , the minister as sinn fein, the biggest in stormont, will biggest party in stormont, will nominate michelle o'neill , the nominate michelle o'neill, the dup, as the largest unionist party, will get to nominate a deputy first minister. the two roles, though, co—exist and have equal power . roles, though, co—exist and have equal power. a manhunt is still ongoing for a suspected chemical attacker , abdul ezedi, who has attacker, abdul ezedi, who has significant injuries on the right side, right hand side of

his face, was last seen at london's kings cross station on wednesday . a 31 year old mother, wednesday. a 31 year old mother, who was attacked with a corrosive substance, remains in hospital. her two young daughters were also hurt, but not as badly as first thought. the train driver strike is again hitting parts of the country. members of aslef art avanti west coast and east midlands and west midlands railway are staging a 24 hour walkout over pay and conditions . the action started conditions. the action started earlier this week and will continue on monday. a ban on overtime will last until tuesday . you can get the latest on our stories , uh, by getting gb news stories, uh, by getting gb news alerts. so scan that qr code on your screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts . .com/ alerts. >> thank . acas. >> thank. acas. >> thank. acas. >> aaron, it's time now for your weekly dose of showbiz news. and we're delighted to have our showbiz journalist, stephanie

takyi, who love. takyi, who we love. >> us can >> and she's with us guys, can i say you guys are laughing? >> it really brought a smile to my don't we need at >> steph, don't we need it at the moment? >> steph, don't we need it at the inoment? >> steph, don't we need it at the inomerwe do. >> i know we do. >> i know we do. >> don't we need it? i know it's good to laugh. >> i know usually i bring you guys good news, but guys like good showbiz news, but it good for it hasn't been a good week for showbiz. quite intense. >> e has. f- >> yeah, it really has. and should with the. well, should we start with the. well, it was a very sad day yesterday. should we start with the. well, it vaeahjery sad day yesterday. should we start with the. well, it vyderek'ery sad day yesterday. should we start with the. well, it vyderek draper! day yesterday. should we start with the. well, it vyderek draper buty yesterday. should we start with the. well, it vyderek draper but also terday. should we start with the. well, it vyderek draper but also what. should we start with the. well, it vyderek draper but also what a >> derek draper but also what a beautiful send off it was a very emotional send off and a farewell which was well deserved for a well respected man as you can expect, the worlds of both showbiz and politics were both there to their final there to pay their final respects to derek. >> but for me, the most gripping part was seeing his daughter being one of the pallbearers , being one of the pallbearers, carrying him and carrying his coffin into the church . um, as coffin into the church. um, as we know, we've all kind of seen kate garraway be on this journey over the past four years, and it's just quite sad to see how it's just quite sad to see how it's ended. um, you know, most people who've lost people, you know, the grief actually starts after the funeral. and she's had

such a whirlwind where she's been his carer, her days have been his carer, her days have been consumed with that. so it will be new chapter for her. will be a new chapter for her. but as i said, the world's of politics and showbiz were there. so elton john was there and he performed a tribute , a musical performed a tribute, a musical tribute of one of his songs called skyline pigeon. and it was emotional. it's such a was so emotional. it's such a brilliant track, very fitting politics. we saw sir tony blair was there and he'd done a eulogy for derek, so there was so many names there and, um, i can only continue to send my love out to kate garraway. yeah we're all sending our love and best wishes i >> -- >> and we were talking about this earlier because you are a friend of kate's, aren't you? i mean, so stoic mean, she has been so stoic through of this. she through all of this. really. she must yesterday so, so must have found yesterday so, so difficult. yeah >> and i was just saying that she, you know , it's a testament she, you know, it's a testament to how much only derek, to show how much not only derek, but family are loved. but the whole family are loved. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> by the british public. and, um, it's a very sad situation. >> by the british public. and, um,witha very sad situation. >> by the british public. and, um,witha verthough. uation. >> by the british public. and, um,witha verthough. it'son. >> by the british public. and, um,witha verthough. it's the. i'm with you, though. it's the. it's the daughter carrying the coffin that's hardest bit coffin that's the hardest bit i can't even it takes a lot of

strength, a lot of strength. >> and at age as well. >> and at that age as well. which does she do? we know she's 17, 17. >> t- t that's incredible . >> that's that's incredible. >> that's that's incredible. >> so clearly she had a really close relationship with her father. what a beautiful father. and what a beautiful girl as well. >> i hadn't seen a picture of her before. i was struck by how beautiful she was. >> kate, when see them both >> kate, when you see them both together, you're like, wow, they're of together, you're like, wow, they another. of together, you're like, wow, theyanother. yeah, of together, you're like, wow, theyanother. yeah, gorgeous one another. but yeah, gorgeous women . yeah. sending love to them. >> very, sending lots of >> very, very sending lots of love. very, very sad love. um, also very, very sad news really shocked me yesterday, um, johnny yesterday, actually. um, johnny irwin, place the sun irwin, the place in the sun star.i irwin, the place in the sun star. i think he hosted it for something like 18, 18 years. very sadly. lost his his battle with cancer . with cancer. >> and 50 is no age to go. um, he was very, you know , when most he was very, you know, when most of these stars, when they get of these stars, when they do get a terminal diagnosis, they tend to themselves. but to keep it to themselves. but johnny to the johnny wanted to do the opposite. inspire opposite. he wanted to inspire people to live every day. in that sense . and unfortunately, that sense. and unfortunately, he passed away yesterday and his family released a statement and said that he was truly a remarkable soul. um, he was

diagnosed with, um, brain lung cancer in 2020, and they told him he would only have six months to live . so the fact that months to live. so the fact that he's managed to beat the odds and actually make it to 50, which he said was an achievement , meant i think he was quite happy still happy with that. but it's still saddening for the family and the two boys. he leaves behind and the the sun family said the place in the sun family said they heartbroken. they they are heartbroken. they worked with him for 18 years. you know , place in the sun is you know, place in the sun is such feel good show to such a good, feel good show to watch um so for him to be watch it. um so for him to be missing the families, quite missing from the families, quite devastating. final devastating. but these final months, you followed him on months, if you followed him on social media, he was still positive and he was still inspiring others. and i think that will be his legacy. >> yeah, there are a couple of other things. obviously the grammys, want to grammys, i want to talk to you about. before there, about. but before we go there, rebecca this rebecca ferguson, i mean, this is she's spoken out is a big thing. she's spoken out about the abuse that she suffered at hands her suffered at the hands of her former management company. >> metoo, which >> yeah. so we had metoo, which was big in hollywood guys. but now british music industry now the british music industry are their where are having their moment where women to parliament women have gone to parliament this week they met up with

this week and they met up with the women's and equality committee to talk all of committee to talk about all of the sexism they faced and a new report has said that racism and misogyny is endemic in the industry now. and they're calling for a new standards authority be to monitor any metoo cases. and rebecca ferguson , for the past couple of ferguson, for the past couple of years, she's kind of alluded to what happened with her management, but now she's come out with the full and it's out with the full story and it's quite shocking and horrifying that abuse she went through at the hands of her management. obviously, they need reply on obviously, they need to reply on such a situation. um, but she's just opened up about sexism , just opened up about sexism, about being feeling like she couldn't speak when she tried to part ways with them. and there's so many women in the music industry now who've been coming out with their story of abuse that they've been through, including waking up to having people top of them. so it's people on top of them. so it's not a good one, but hopefully parliament are hoping that this new standards authority, which will be able to monitor it, will be able to give victims a voice

and feel like they can open up about things and that about these things and that these be looked into. these cases will be looked into. >> hopefully times >> yeah, well, hopefully times are changing because one of the things struck the things that struck me the most was so many women felt like they couldn't say anything, and many of sign ndas. >> that's it. ellie and most of them like, know, once them feel like, you know, once you've nda, you could you've signed the nda, you could be facing your abuser in the same say same room and you cannot say anything , same room and you cannot say anything, you same room and you cannot say anything , you know, and that's anything, you know, and that's a frightening position to be and to feel like you can't even feel comfortable in the own music industry that you work with. and i know usually concentrate on i know we usually concentrate on women, think, you know, women, but i think, you know, men also go through as men also go through abuse as well. who knows? unbelievable. >> well, let's lighten up the subject a little bit with the grammys, which, you know, obviously is a i remember the grammys from being a teenager and watching the when michael jackson was winning like ten awards. your grammys awards. yeah your grammys are such a big, big, big part of the music industry. >> like it's music biggest year. i mean big, biggest night on the calendar. and they're saying it's going to be the year of the

woman. even though think it's woman. even though i think it's the woman. every the year of the woman. every yeah the year of the woman. every year. course, you know, year. but of course, you know, they've before. they've been snubbed before. but taylor , our girl taylor, ellie, taylor, our girl taylor, ellie, she might make history and be the first artist to win the artist. first artist to win in the best album of the year four times in a row tomorrow. so it will be a big night for taylor. but then there's other names as billie eilish, names such as billie eilish, who's couple awards, who's up for a couple awards, dua olivia rodrigo . so dua lipa, olivia rodrigo. so it's set to be an incredible night with great performances . night with great performances. there was a bit of rumours that beyonce was going to be performing. i know i would have been like, all hail queen bee ! been like, all hail queen bee! um, it's gonna it's not um, but it's not gonna it's not happening. >> m happening. >> do that again, >> do that again, do that again, do . do that again. >> all hail queen bee. yeah you know i love bebe, but you in >> all hail queen bee. yeah you kno beehive?5ebe, but you in the beehive? >> that's what call the >> that's what they call it. the beehive. call it. >> it. don't want to know how >> you don't want to know how much i spent see her much i spent to go see her perform year. will follow much i spent to go see her perf

>> yeah, it'll be good. >> yeah, it'll be good. >> about the fashion as >> it's all about the fashion as well to be well to see who's going to be wearing. wait to see wearing. i can't wait to see what taylor's going to wear, but it be night. i think it will be a big night. i think women to do incredible women are going to do incredible whatever women are going to do incredible wheyeah, i hope a >> yeah, i hope she makes a swift decision. oh, can't swift decision. oh, you can't help himself, can he? >> thank you. >> thank you. >> steph. thank you guys. >> steph. thank you guys. >> you very much. now have >> thank you very much. now have you breakfast yet? this you had breakfast yet? this morning. no neither have i. morning. no. no neither have i. but you're not too sure about but if you're not too sure about what to breakfast, what to have for breakfast, don't because there's don't worry, because there's still and you'll be glad to still time and you'll be glad to know cream is on the menu know ice cream is on the menu for us for breakfast today. know ice cream is on the menu for us for breakfast today . yes, for us for breakfast today. yes, we're going to be joined. yes ice for breakfast by an ice cream for breakfast by an ice cream for breakfast by an ice cream for breakfast by an ice cream parlour. who's going to to for us very shortly ice cream parlour. who's going to ice for us very shortly ice cream parlour. who's going to ice cream very shortly ice cream parlour. who's going to ice cream fory shortly ice cream parlour. who's going to ice cream for breakfast about ice cream for breakfast day

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worked well by just having one pot. says i'm pot. and alexander says i'm still in an ever still traditional in an ever expensive world. and so our spending is 55, 45 split. i haven't actually heard that before. 45 once our pay comes in, we send our portion to our joint accounts and we keep the rest . rest. >> hang on. he's 55 and he's 45. >> hang on. he's 55 and he's 45. >> i would imagine if he's saying traditional, the man would oh okay. i hadn't would be 55. oh okay. i hadn't heard that kind of split before 5050 maybe. yeah. not that way. but know your thoughts but do let us know your thoughts on any of the stories that . we on any of the stories that. we are talking about today. you might have an opinion on this next as it's next story as well. it's a little controversial little bit controversial and i like though. like it like it though. and you like it as well. >> i do because can smell it >> i do because i can smell it and it. you can't yet, but and see it. you can't yet, but you're gonna this cream you're gonna love this ice cream for breakfast day. >> and >> yes, it's today and apparently it is a fun and whimsical holiday where can whimsical holiday where you can celebrate morning eating celebrate all morning by eating ice for breakfast. who knew? >> i mean, they do pancake days. they do all these different days. why not? uh, it was started in the 1960s by a mother in new york who was trying to find for her kids

find fun activities for her kids dunng find fun activities for her kids during snowstorm when they during a snowstorm when they couldn't the house. what couldn't leave the house. what a great . great idea. >> yes. well, a year later, dunng >> yes. well, a year later, during another february snowstorm, her kids reminded her that they were able to eat ice cream for breakfast the year before. tradition before. and so the tradition continued. the kids never forget. did they? >> they don't. uh, we weren't going to let the occasion go without some lovely without asking some lovely people who make people to join us who make this, uh, the creators and stick to the of co—founders the tradition of co—founders cauendo the tradition of co—founders caliendo gelato , is that right? caliendo gelato, is that right? that's right. p&o ferries good. michelina caliendo . sir. and michelina caliendo. sir. and fiona bell . that one was so what fiona bell. that one was so what have we got here, guys? now for people on radio, by the way, that can't what's going on that can't see what's going on here. we have these beautiful ice got. here. we have these beautiful ice i'll got. here. we have these beautiful ice i'll let got. here. we have these beautiful ice i'll let explain ot. well, i'll let you explain i'll let explain . but we've let you guys explain. but we've got beautiful ones here. got some beautiful ones here. take away. take it away. >> show us what got >> yeah. show us what we've got here. for a breakfast theme. >> we have over 200 flavours that in the parlour, so that we make in the parlour, so we hand—pick the ones would

we hand—pick the ones that would be for breakfast. be good for breakfast. >> got mango >> so we've got a mango sorbet, which with mangoes which is made with kesar mangoes and which is made with kesar mangoes ancthat's yeah. >> that's here. yeah. >> that's here. yeah. >> sorbet . >> so that's a sorbet. >> so that's a sorbet. >> that's. yeah. >> that's. yeah. >> that's. yeah. >> that is the colour on that is absolutely incredible. one. absolutely incredible. that one. such yellow look such a bright yellow. look at that. are listening that. if you are listening on the radio it's um, it's the radio it's like, um, it's like sun mango sorbet. yeah. like the sun mango sorbet. yeah. such a bright yellow. and then this one's got corn flakes in it. look of this one. it. i like the look of this one. and this one's the and this one's like the daughter. little daughter. yeah, it is a little bit. yeah. >> wasn't funny was it. so >> it wasn't funny was it. so some daughter. no >> on. some daughter. no >> so on. some daughter. no >> so then. some daughter. no >> so then dad jokes he likes, he likes the dad joke. >> this one. and then what have we got back here? we've got the, uh, belgian chocolate sorbet. we got back here? we've got the, uh, ooh. ian chocolate sorbet. >> ooh. >> ooh. >> one. >> that one. >> that one. >> that's a dark >> so that's a nice dark chocolate . so then after you've chocolate. so then after you've had cornflakes, some had your cornflakes, have some chocolate. oh and try chocolate. oh and then try these. real cointreau these. just a real cointreau one. i know one is marmite and sourdough toast . sourdough toast. >> that's a bit different. oh my gosh i'm going in for that. i think you need to try that one. >> so you have to try to even though you know guys. >> we going to what >> so we are going to try what ellie's going cornflakes >> i'm going for the cornflakes because that's the most

traditional breakfast one. do because that's the most tradwantl breakfast one. do because that's the most trad want toreakfast one. do because that's the most trad want to trykfast one. do because that's the most trad want to try marmite. do because that's the most trad want to try marmite. because you want to try marmite. because that sounds i'm gonna try marmite. here we go. marmite. here we go, here we go. >> actually think it's going >> i actually think it's going to great. it just depends how to be great. it just depends how subtle to be great. it just depends how suboh hang >> oh wait. hang on. >> oh wait. hang on. >> cheers oh hang >> what are we? cheers oh hang on. you guys . on. what are you guys. >> we got to go for the >> oh we got to go for the sorbet . sorbet. >> that's hang on a second. >> that's hang on a second. >> is so good that so is this. oh no. sorry. i'm taking the whole bowl. this is amazing. >> try the marmite. it's really, really nice. >> so do you like the honey roast? cornflakes is really when it's that last bit of milk in the bowl. >> exactly what tastes >> that's exactly what it tastes like. milk and the end like. yeah. the milk and the end of like a frosty bowl or something. amazing something. oh guys. amazing guys. tell us your story . guys. so. so tell us your story. how long you been running? how long have you been running? and award, how long have you been running? and you? award, how long have you been running? and you? tell award, how long have you been running? and you? tell us award, how long have you been running? and you? tell us aboutard, how long have you been running? and you? tell us about that . haven't you? tell us about that. we won uk parlour of the >> we've won uk parlour of the yeah >> we've won uk parlour of the year. so the competition congratulations. thank you very much. was run last year for much. it was run last year for the first time and we entered it. we wanted to be judged by our peers in the industry and we thought, well we might as well enter the competition and lo and

behold, here we are . behold, here we are. >> it's been a bit of a whirlwind for the past sort of couple of months. absolutely incredible. >> i mean, obviously this is something really special. you've always known that. but what is it win award? it's it like to win that award? it's that solidify it for you? >> um, i think for us, it's been judged by your peers is really quite important. um, you know, we have a we have a strong local customer base, um, kentish customer base, um, in kentish town and that's great. but town and, and that's great. but what it has been is it's sort of it gives you a little bit of faith, doesn't it? you know, that actually you're doing something, you're doing something, you're doing something can something right. i mean, i can see won awards see why you've won awards because just even, just even the marmite sourdough toast, which i've never heard of before as a gelato that is pretty impressive. >> obviously , the chocolate one >> obviously, the chocolate one is out of this world. and now i'm going to try the mango sorbet. >> and what do your customers say to you that have such a say to you that you have such a loyal they must absolutely loyal base? they must absolutely love products. love your products. >> i think so. and, >> well, yeah, i think so. and, uh, sort of publicity uh, the sort of publicity we've had award as had from winning the award as well, obviously, castanet,

well, obviously, as castanet, a little um, so we are little bit wider. um, so we are doing some sort of national deliveries now to certain areas and but for, you know, and stuff, but for, you know, we're doing weddings , bar we're doing weddings, bar mitzvahs, you're doing it all. yeah, absolutely. >> i know it's hard to choose, but what would your favourite flavour ice for flavour be on ice cream for breakfast so mine would be, breakfast day. so mine would be, uh, bronte pistachio. >> uh, because i'm really proud of the way we make our pistachios. we actually , we pistachios. we actually, we harvest go straight to harvest that, go straight to bronte where they're harvested . bronte where they're harvested. we get them from the farmer, direct, and we bring them back to kentish town. and just literally blend them into our weekly. >> tell us if you don't mind the name, the name and so people can go and get it. >> caliendo's gelato caliendo's gelato . not ice cream gelato. >> if you've got ice cream in the freezer, get it out. >> it's a good thing. thanks for joining us. we're back next week. >> e’- f outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there! i'm jonathan

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strong, gusty winds pushing in from the southwest. but that is a very mild direction. so again, temperatures are going to be above for time of above average for the time of year nine 13 c. that year between nine 13 c. that rain is still persistent on monday, with rain warning in monday, with a rain warning in force scotland could force for western scotland could actually the actually see some snow on the leading that for the far leading edge of that for the far north. the south, north. further to the south, still quite cloudy with some drizzle and hold on to that drizzle and we hold on to that mild in the south during mild theme in the south during the coming week. but perhaps something a bit chillier arriving north towards arriving for the north towards the the week by. the middle of the week by. >> looks like things heating >> looks like things are heating up sponsors of up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

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