well -- well . 930 on monday, the 5th of well. 930 on monday, the 5th of february, this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. good morning to you. so christianity converts for 80 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm barge are converting to christianity in an attempt to stay in the country . attempt to stay in the country. is this assimilating into a british way of life or lying to stay in the uk.7 hmm stay in the uk? hmm >> and the clapham chemical attack is still on the run. after almost a week , someone after almost a week, someone must know something . is that why must know something. is that why scotland yard is now offering a £20,000 reward for information on the whereabouts of abdul ezedl on the whereabouts of abdul ezedi, while gillian keegan, the education secretary, says the attacker's story is actually not really about asylum and mauled to death. >> an essex town is in huge

shock after a 68 year old grandmother was killed by dogs suspected to be xl bullies over the weekend. this is just a few days after the xl bully band was introduced and social media crackdown . crackdown. >> the mother of the murdered teenager , brianna ghey, is teenager, brianna ghey, is calling for a ban on children's access to social media after it was revealed the daughter's killer. watch torture videos online. here is her mum . online. here is her mum. >> so i'd like to see mobile phone companies take more responsibility . um, it's so responsibility. um, it's so difficult for parents now to , difficult for parents now to, um, to safeguard their children. the carry a mobile phone in their pocket 24 over seven. >> she's a remarkable woman and taylor swift soared at the grammy awards . she's become the grammy awards. she's become the first performer to win the prize for album of the year four times. now, this puts her above frank sinatra. paul simon and stevie wonder .

stevie wonder. i bet you can't sing a taylor swift. >> i can't sing a single taylor swift song. i can't think of the name of a single. one of her albums. i know who she is. i think she's got an incredible media profile, but really bigger than paul simon. all those amazing hit records frank sinatra, stevie wonder , the sinatra, stevie wonder, the great blind songwriters come on. >> no, we can all win one of their tunes. >> and who will endure longest in 5060 years time? they won't be talking about taylor swift. no. >> i love taylor swift. don't get me wrong, she does some great tunes, but i almost even now , i can't. i won't sing it now, i can't. i won't sing it for worry. don't for you. don't worry. don't start on monday morning like start off on monday morning like that. your thoughts that. let us know your thoughts this vaiews@gbnews.com that. let us know your thoughts this email vaiews@gbnews.com that. let us know your thoughts this email vaiew:as1bnews.com that. let us know your thoughts this email vaiewsas always, :om is the email address. as always, we've show . don't we've got a packed show. don't go anywhere. first though, the news . news with sam francis. >> bev and andrew thank you very much . and good morning from the much. and good morning from the gb news room. it'sjust much. and good morning from the gb news room. it's just gone 930. top story this morning

930. our top story this morning the prime minister is in northern ireland to mark the return of power sharing at stormont. he's meeting with ministers there, including sinn fein's o'neill, who's fein's michelle o'neill, who's made history by becoming the country's first republican first minister. rishi sunak is calling on northern ireland's politicians to now focus on delivering for families and businesses. he's insisting the £33 billion package offered by £3.3 billion package offered by westminster is more than enough . westminster is more than enough. but the newly formed executive has already written to the prime minister calling for urgent discussions on more long terme funding . police are intensifying funding. police are intensifying their efforts to capture the chemical attack. suspect abdul ezedi with the manhunt now into its fifth day, a £20,000 reward is being offered for information that could lead to his arrest. he's wanted in connection with an attack in south london last week that left a woman in hospital and her daughters, aged three and eight, both injured. detectives say azad's last known movements show that he left tower hill tube station in east

london just after half past nine on wednesday evening . last week. on wednesday evening. last week. they're calling on the public to help find him, and that comes as concerns grow about how the convicted sex offender, convicted sex offender, convicted sex offender rather was able to secure asylum in the uk after claiming to convert to christianity . meanwhile, a 40 christianity. meanwhile, a 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm barge have also reportedly converted to christianity , raising concerns christianity, raising concerns that migrants are claiming to change their religion in order to stay in the uk. the telegraph newspaper today has suggested that i in 7 of the 300 migrants on the barge in dorset are attending local churches, fuelling concerns about the role that churches may have in asylum claims. the home secretary is said to be considering whether any legal changes need to be made to ensure the claims of so—called conversion made by asylum seekers are properly scrutinised . and finally , the scrutinised. and finally, the most recent round of train

strikes by drivers in the uk is set to end later, with no settlement in sight for their long running dispute over pay, members at chiltern, great western and crosscountry are all on strike today , leading to more on strike today, leading to more widespread cancellations as rail operators are warning of extremely limited services in england and reduced timetables until 7:00 tonight. the 20 month dispute over pay and conditions is still deadlocked, with no talks planned . and for the talks planned. and for the latest stories you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen right now, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> very good morning. thank you for joining us. now, 40 asylum forjoining us. now, 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm are converting to christianity in try and cheat the in order to try and cheat the asylum system use religion asylum system and use religion asylum system and use religion as a way of staying in uk. as a way of staying in the uk. >> course, this was a method >> of course, this was a method used by abdul ezedi, who is

suspected several in suspected of injuring several in the in the clapham the chemical. in the clapham chemical attack last week, he was successful third was successful in his third asylum claim after a priest vouched for his conversion to christianity. the manhunt for him is now in its fifth day, so do you think at home we'd love to hear from you. >> do we need to recognise that people might convert to christianity in order to assimilate into a british way of, as i'm saying it, i as i'm saying it, i know i'm trying to provide a bit of balance here, but maybe they just want to be more british and they want to they want game the system. they want to game the system. >> so as zidi is afghanistan, afghanistan ? so he would have afghanistan? so he would have argued now i'm a christian. um i can i'll be persecuted if i go to afghanistan . persecution to afghanistan. persecution isn't good enough for what we know he's done to that woman and those children. but 40 of them now on the bibby stockholm and there's documents floating around. the daily express has picked up on how church of england vicars are helping and

assisting refugees to convert to christianity so they can avoid being deported. that's not what they're supposed to be doing . they're supposed to be doing. that isn't very christian. if you are desperate person and you are a desperate person and you are a desperate person and you have made that journey that difficult, expensive , um, difficult, expensive, um, journey from your country of origin to get to the uk, you are going to do anything to stay. >> the idea of being sent back must be terrifying for those people, whether that is because they're here for economic reasons or whether they are genuinely fleeing persecution in their country. these their own country. so these loopholes somehow have to be closed . and if unless we're just closed. and if unless we're just saying, well, everyone who arrives here will be able to stay, we have to stop them arriving here in the first. >> it's all coming out of tony blair's rights the blair's human rights act. the tories been in power for 14 tories have been in power for 14 years. what have they done about the not the human rights act? yeah not enough, not enough. >> us now is >> well, joining us now is columnist daily mail sarah columnist at daily mail sarah vine. morning good vine. good morning sarah. good morning. suella morning. good to see you. suella braverman this braverman was talking about this yesterday. she'd said migrants can for can attend mass once a week for a befriend the vicar

a few months, befriend the vicar , baptism date in the , get your baptism date in the diary you'll be diary, and bingo, you'll be signed member of the signed off by a member of the clergy you're now god clergy that you're now a god fearing christian. will face fearing christian. you will face persecution if removed to islamic origin. it's islamic country of origin. it's very of punchy thing for very kind of punchy thing for herwell, mean, the problem >> well, i mean, the problem with church england with the church of england is that haemorrhaging faithful in. >> so they're they're sort of desperate, aren't they really. so they're making easy. um, so they're making it easy. um, i think, you know, the church of england has, has, has, has lost so many . the attendances are so many. the attendances are down, uh, churches are empty and maybe they see this as a fantastic opportunity to get some more followers. i mean, if they really are converting to christianity, that's a good christianity, then that's a good thing, a thing, because christianity is a very , nice, very pleasant, nice, kind religion. you know, religion. yeah. and you know, generally speaking, i, i think that's a good thing. but it's , that's a good thing. but it's, it's what you do you have to do is question the motives . because is question the motives. because with this guy, the man who threw the face of the the acid in the face of the woman and two children, that's not a very christian thing to do. absolutely not. if you do. absolutely not. so if you are christian, i don't think are a christian, i don't think that's would go around that's what you would go around doing of course, doing if you were. of course, perhaps these christian

perhaps this these christian clergy would say all we are doing is acting with compassion, that we do not think these people should be sent back to dangerous country, that we think we should be welcoming them here and therefore will do what we and therefore we will do what we can help them stay. can to help them to stay. uh, you coming from you know, this is coming from the . the archbishop of the top. the archbishop of canterbury extremely canterbury is has been extremely vocal lords against the vocal in the lords against the rwanda doesn't like it, rwanda bill. he doesn't like it, doesn't want has said it's doesn't want it has said it's a terrible thing. so they are i mean to an they are just mean to an extent they are just really doing what their leader is do . yeah. and is telling them to do. yeah. and like if they really are like i said, if they really are genuinely converting to christianity, know, great. genuinely converting to chri but1ity, know, great. genuinely converting to chri but you know, great. genuinely converting to chri but you know, iow, great. genuinely converting to chri but you know, as', great. genuinely converting to chri but you know, as i great. genuinely converting to chri but you know, as i said,. but but you know, as i said, throwing in someone's face throwing acid in someone's face is not a act, not a very is not a very act, not a very christian. according to the telegraph, there, lot telegraph, the out there, a lot of been converting of them have been converting sarah called the sarah on something called the alpha like fast track. >> it's like a fast track. >> strange. >> strange. >> they'll it is. >> they'll it is it is. >> they'll it is it is. >> it's a bit culty actually. it's very culty. >> and the alpha course was taken by a man called emad al suleiman, bomber , suleiman, the liverpool bomber, who then blew himself up outside a maternity hospital in 2021, four years after his confirmation city's confirmation at the city's

cathedral. well, very christian. >> no, it's not very christian, christian. >:it?o, it's not very christian, christian. >:it? i it's not very christian, christian. >:it? i mean, it very christian, christian. >:it? i mean, it thinkzhristian, christian. >:it? i mean, it think i|ristian, christian. >:it? i mean, it think i think], is it? i mean, i think i think these you know, they're are these i, you know, they're are lots of red flags going on here. i really i mean, and as i said, i really i mean, and as i said, i don't think the archbishop of canterbury helps because so canterbury helps because he's so adamantly against the rwanda bill, you know, not even beginning to contemplate the idea people. idea of sending people. >> should word >> and he should have a word with clergy they've with his clergy because they've got called church got a document called church support seekers , support for asylum seekers, guidance for the church of england. help if their england. how to help if their claims are refused. yeah, exactly. you come and become one of then your asylum of us, and then your asylum claim won't be refused. because we'll can't go back. we'll say you can't go back. it's distortion , varne. it's a distortion, varne. >> it's real distortion. and >> it's a real distortion. and the it's shame the thing is, it's a shame because know , when people because you know, when people come this country from come to this country from abroad, you want them to integrate and you want them to sort of part the sort of be part of the community. that concept community. and for that concept to used in such a kind of, to be used in such a kind of, i suppose , malicious way is really suppose, malicious way is really it's really horrible because, you know , you of course, you you know, you of course, you want people to become british and to embrace our way of life, but then if it's being used as a

loophole to keep, you know , um, loophole to keep, you know, um, rapists, murderers, whatever , rapists, murderers, whatever, this guy had a conviction for sexual assault. yes, he did , he sexual assault. yes, he did, he did. it's not. it just undermines the whole system. really? >> do you think there are mps who are currently scratching their chin as to how to talk about this issue without getting themselves into massive hot water? >> it is impossible for anyone to have any sensible conversation now in this country about these things, because as soon do , you're labelled, about these things, because as soorknow, do , you're labelled, about these things, because as soorknow, you» , you're labelled, about these things, because as soorknow, you just»u're labelled, about these things, because as soorknow, you just get labelled, about these things, because as soorknow, you just get labelled , you know, you just get labelled with all sorts of racist, xenophobic and far right. exactly. and the thing is, exactly. and and the thing is, it's the path least it's the path of least resistance, isn't it? because to have this conversation sort resistance, isn't it? because to haintelligent,'ersation sort resistance, isn't it? because to haintelligent, open on sort resistance, isn't it? because to haintelligent, open and sort resistance, isn't it? because to haintelligent, open and honest of intelligent, open and honest way and painful, way is difficult. and painful, actually, because because, you know, you don't want to think that people are exploiting the system. and yet we see time and again that they are. so it's easier to just say, you know, they're all lovely people. and why are you being so horrible? and that's what a lot of that's what a lot of our colleagues in journalism do. and your

colleagues in, in the broadcasting world, and then the ones who try to have the difficult conversation, are you know, pushed to one side or labelled or, you know, vilified and so we end up going round and round ever decreasing round in ever decreasing circles, absolutely nowhere. >> what do you think? at the weekend yesterday, sarah, the incredibly brave mother of brianna ghey i talking she's extraordinary social media and how she doesn't think kids have up to 16. should have a smartphone at all. >> well, i mean, i have to say chapeau to her. she must be an absolute bit. and yet she's been doing all of this stuff, which is fantastic. i mean, i have to say, i wrote the molly say, i wrote after the molly russell. yeah. richard. yeah, the viewers. but she killed herself after viewing suicide websites. i wrote a piece in 2019 saying we should ban smartphones for under 16 seconds because it's the issue is the access to the internet , which access to the internet, which they give you. and my daughter , they give you. and my daughter, funnily enough, was one of that first generation who had had they all had suddenly they all had access the internet on

had access to the internet on their phones and there were no barriers, no blocks , nothing. barriers, no blocks, nothing. and as parent and i remember as a parent trying all sorts of trying to set up all sorts of sort you know, so sort of, you know, so complicated to try and complicated spyware to try and work what she was looking work out what she was looking at. difficult. that the at. so difficult. that and the thing that your child can be thing is that your child can be safe in its bedroom. you can think, oh, it's fine . you know think, oh, it's fine. you know what can what what can she be doing? she's at home, doing? you know, she's at home, she's room. tell you, she's in her room. i tell you, she's in her room. i tell you, she be your children. can be she's in her room. i tell you, sh the be your children. can be she's in her room. i tell you, sh the worst'our children. can be she's in her room. i tell you, sh the worst places ldren. can be she's in her room. i tell you, sh the worst places imaginableie in the worst places imaginable on earth. if have access. on earth. if they have access. >> would much rather my teens >> i would much rather my teens were walking around local were walking around the local park than sat in their room on their phone . we've we've their phone. we've we've distorted idea of safety distorted this idea of safety and risk assessment. we think it's dangerous to be out in it's more dangerous to be out in the it isn't, it's not. the park. it isn't, it's not. it's much more dangerous be it's much more dangerous to be at this for hours on at home like this for hours on end. >> and you know, accessing the dark is might be difficult dark web is might be difficult for you or me, but for them, it's just so very easy. >> and this is because the killers of brianna ghey 16 and 17, in the trial, it came out that they'd been watching the most extreme violent content.

>> yeah. >> yeah. >> scarlet, she had sort of she had sort of descended into a hellscape , really, of unimagined hellscape, really, of unimagined unpleasantness and violence . and unpleasantness and violence. and she'd been watching she'd been in red rooms. she'd been watching violence, rape, torture , all excited her, bizarrely excited her. >> the thing is, if you're 15, as she was, you know, you don't have a developed frontal lobe cause , you know, your brain is cause, you know, your brain is not capable of understanding risk and processing. >> adults can see this sort of material and they can rationalise it and they can understand that it's not okay, whereas if you're a child, your brain is not yet at that stage where it understands that. and so it's impossible. so, so it is corrupting in that sort of in the sense that it will alter your mind, it will alter your it's obviously it obviously altered her. what's so interesting about scarlet is that, you know, often with these child killers, they come from really troubled backgrounds. you know, there's abuse, there's

alcohol . there's all sorts of alcohol. there's all sorts of problems . alcohol. there's all sorts of problems. but with alcohol. there's all sorts of problems . but with her, there problems. but with her, there wasn't that there was. she was a quite a normal family. >> and that just shows how much this brutalising content can supersede the influence of a parent. exactly. and that's why. and that's why i think brianna j's mother is so interesting because and she's obviously been on a journey with her own , sadly on a journey with her own, sadly now deceased child , because she now deceased child, because she would have had to have go through all of those conversations about her becoming trans , transitioning. and then trans, transitioning. and then she said she understood . she said she understood. >> and then after brianna died, she realised obviously she realised because obviously they her devices, they went through her devices, that that brianna had been looking anorexia websites . looking at anorexia websites. so, you know, it's just so pernicious. it is . and that's pernicious. it is. and that's why this, this bill that went through parliament in october is so important, the online harms bill. but it doesn't go far enough. >> and it and we've got rishi sunak banning vapes i know bans aren't things. >> they're much more damaging . >> they're much more damaging. >> they're much more damaging. >> right. don't go anywhere sarah. stay with us. because up next, rishi sunak said he won't

hesitate protect british hesitate to protect british lives whilst defending a third wave of joint uk and us airstrikes against houthi rebels over the weekend. and are we edging closer to war? we're going to find

gb news. very good morning. thank you for joining us on britain's newsroom. uh, grandmother was killed over the by two killed over the weekend by two dogs to be exhaled dogs thought to be exhaled bullies in front her bullies in front of her screaming grandson. bullies in front of her screesther grandson. bullies in front of her screesther martin on. bullies in front of her screesther martin was visiting >> esther martin was visiting her when was attacked her family when she was attacked yesterday in essex. ashley warren is said to kept warren is said to have kept eight dogs, been arrested eight dogs, has been arrested for, uh, for under the dangerous dogs offences and remains in custody. this is just days after it became a criminal offence to own bully dog in england. own an xl bully dog in england. wales exemption wales without an exemption certificate. you in certificate. i just show you in the sun what he said, the sun here what he said, bragging . if you can see it's in bragging. if you can see it's in large headlines. no one tells me what to do with my dogs . large headlines. no one tells me what to do with my dogs. i'm very proud of that. well, well done , because those dogs have

done, because those dogs have savaged grandma to death in front of her grandson. so the this dangerous dogs legislation only works if people comply with it, if they take their dog, get it, if they take their dog, get it registered and licensed. >> think about xl bullies and dogs like that is that they are status dogs. yeah. for sort of men like that who are kind of brilliant examples of sort of macho toxic masculinity and the banning them only makes them. i'm afraid, more desirable because it's like , not only is because it's like, not only is my dog now extremely vicious and violent, it's also banned. so i'm also i'm a real bad boy now. yeah that's what that is. >> i have a friend who was telling me at the weekend that she walking the river she was walking down the river thames area, thames in the richmond area, very area, affluent very nice area, lots of affluent people there were several people, and there were several people, and there were several people walking along with xl bullies not on leads and she said it was like they become more defiant in the face of this ban. >> well, i mean, this is the whole thing. >> no one's going to do anything about. >> who's going to say to the

owner, put that dog on a lead? well, i bless you, mad wood. >> yeah. but the thing is that because it's sort of because for them it's a sort of badge honour, i can control badge of honour, i can control my dog because this is a my vicious dog because this is a very scary, vicious animal. but i'm scarier, more i'm an even scarier, more vicious i'm. i'm the i'm an even scarier, more viciiman i'm. i'm the i'm an even scarier, more viciiman and i'm. i'm the i'm an even scarier, more viciiman and can i'm the i'm an even scarier, more viciiman and can control big man here, and i can control this animal because that's, you know, feel know, that it makes them feel so. there's a it's sort of it's a psychological more than a psychological thing more than anything. and you know, anything. and i and you know, the thing is well trained dogs , the thing is well trained dogs, if there are some people who can, can train and, uh, manage a dog like an xl bully because all dogs are trainable. and if you're a good dog handler, you can you can do that. but most of these people probably are not good dog handlers . no, they good dog handlers. no, they think are, because makes think they are, because it makes them course, about them feel. and of course, about people dogs often say, people who train dogs often say, don't blame the dog. >> the owner. but these >> it's the owner. but these dogs should never been bred dogs should never have been bred like in the first. like this in the first. >> they they're like this in the first. >> they're they they're like this in the first. >> they're they! they're like this in the first. >> they're they are zy're like they're like, they are quite a difficult breed. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> don't go sarah. just a >> don't go near sarah. just a minute. just want minute. we just want to talk about us airstrike that was about this us airstrike that was carried against the iran carried out against the iran backed group yemen. carried out against the iran backis group yemen. carried out against the iran backis after group yemen. carried out against the iran backis after the group yemen. carried out against the iran backis after the uk,p yemen. carried out against the iran backis after the uk,p course.|. this is after the uk, of course. we joined in on a fresh

we also joined in on a fresh wave of attacks this weekend. >> the prime minister said he won't protect won't hesitate to protect british lives and said he's been acting self—defence. acting in self—defence. so are things joining things ramping up? well, joining us now is defence and foreign affairs telegraph. >> coughlin, morning >> con coughlin, good morning khan. assessment >> con coughlin, good morning kha|situation assessment >> con coughlin, good morning kha|situation . assessment >> con coughlin, good morning kha|situation . are assessment >> con coughlin, good morning kha|situation . are we assment >> con coughlin, good morning kha|situation . are we justient this situation. are we just provoking greater conflict ? provoking greater conflict? >> well i think first of all we are doing very important work in defending a global trade route in the red sea. and i think, you know, we have every right to do this. and we should be doing this. and we should be doing this. and we should be doing this. and i think, you know, we should also be looking at our ability to do this because as we've learned over the weekend, you our military has been you know, our military has been so the last so short changed over the last decade or so that our ability to intervene is very limited . but, intervene is very limited. but, you know, you do get the sense also that this is now becoming a sort of for tat operation where we take out houthi launch sites and then the houthis immediately prepare new, new, uh, new launch sites and, and try and carry out

attacks . so it doesn't seem as attacks. so it doesn't seem as though this is going to end any time soon. um con, we've got a huge we've got a couple of huge, um, aircraft carriers anchored in portsmouth harbour. >> there was talk that one of them might be sent to the red sea, but i read today that they won't be able to send one of them because a rusty them because it's got a rusty anchon them because it's got a rusty anchor. so £3.5 billion anchor. um, so £3.5 billion worth and it's already rusting . worth and it's already rusting. can we get anything right in defence procurement in this country ? country? >> well, the tail of the aircraft carriers , andrew, is aircraft carriers, andrew, is a very sorry tale indeed. not only do they cost a fortune, but because of the budget cuts that the conservatives have implemented since they came into power 14 years ago, and i've been writing about this, as you know , all throughout you know, know, all throughout you know, we don't have any aircraft to put on them. and now we find out that the engine on the . queen that the engine on the. queen elizabeth, the first aircraft carrier, doesn't work. they they don't have enough crew to man them. and so even though, you know, whitehall floated the idea

last week that we were about to send one to support the american operation. as it turns out, we can't. and it's actually a national humiliation. this because the prime minister the foreign secretary, the defence secretary are all jumping up and down saying , where will it be down saying, where will it be shoulder to shoulder with the americans? but actually, it turns out shoulder turns out our shoulder is severely dislocated and not really much use. >> well , that's bleak, conklin . >> well, that's bleak, conklin. good to see you, sarah vine that's a damning assessment of our military capabilities. >> i read the other day that, um, uh, if we actually did have to go to war, we, our armed forces, have resources to last precisely two months. yeah we i mean, we couldn't liberate the falklands like we did in 1982. no.andi falklands like we did in 1982. no. and i think i think that but there's been a there's been a general winding of general winding down of, of support for the military from parliament, really for no votes in the army. >> they say, no, i'm not so sure about that. >> to wrap this up for >> we've got to wrap this up for now. good to see you. now. sarah, good to see you.

still apparently 8 in still to come. apparently 8 in 10 support creation 10 people support the creation of patient passports. could of patient passports. they could keep medical records. keep track of medical records. is good idea? keep track of medical records. is yesjood idea? keep track of medical records. is yes .>od idea? >> yes. >> yes. >> a brighter outlook with boxer sponsors of whether on . gb news. sponsors of whether on. gb news. >> hello there. there. good morning to you. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met there's quite met office. there's quite a blustery, windy start new blustery, windy start to the new week many of lot of week for many of us. a lot of isobars tightly packed together on the pressure chart here, indicating winds. on the pressure chart here, indialso g winds. on the pressure chart here, indialso have winds. on the pressure chart here, indialso have this winds. on the pressure chart here, indialso have this stallingids. on the pressure chart here, indialso have this stalling warm we also have this stalling warm front across areas of scotland that has provided persistent rainfall throughout sunday. sunday and will continue sunday night and will continue to very wet conditions, to provide very wet conditions, particularly the highlands , particularly for the highlands, argyll bute. and the rain argyll and bute. and the rain warning force. potential warning is in force. potential for snow as well. on for a touch of snow as well. on the leading edge of this for the likes of caithness and sutherland. elsewhere, a reasonably with reasonably cloudy day with outbreaks mr outbreaks of drizzle. some mr murk see some murk around, we could see some brighter central brighter slots across central eastern generally eastern areas, but generally mild around ten 12 c. feeling a

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gb news. >> 10 am. on monday the 5th of february. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me, bev turner and andrew pierce. >> christianity converts. can you this? 40 asylum >> christianity converts. can you on this? 40 asylum >> christianity converts. can you on the s? 40 asylum >> christianity converts. can you on the bbc) asylum >> christianity converts. can you on the bbc scheme| seekers on the bbc scheme they're converting to christianity in an attempt to stay in the country. they say they're assimilating to british way of life to stay in the uk. others may disagree. conservative mp bob seely joins us next and the clapham chemical attacker is still on the run after almost a week, somebody must know something. >> scotland yard is now offering a £20,000 reward for information on the whereabouts of abdul ezedi , while keegan, ezedi, while gillian keegan, education secretary says that the story is not the attacker's story is not really about asylum . patient really about asylum. patient passport support. >> new research shows 8 in 10 of us support the idea of patient passports, and which all of your medical records could be

accessed by access by gps, hospitals, pharmacies and social care. what do you think . care. what do you think. >> inaya, in essence, that sounds like a great idea. like the basic fundamental principle of being able to click a button and your gpcr medical history. great idea, but it's a health passport now , passport is passport now, passport is something you need to go somewhere or do something. that's what worries me about it. do you share my concerns? gb views at gb news. com first though, your very latest news with sam francis . bev andrew, with sam francis. bev andrew, thank you very much and good morning from the gb newsroom. >> our top story at ten. rishi sunakisin >> our top story at ten. rishi sunak is in northern to sunak is in northern ireland to mark return of power sharing mark the return of power sharing at stormont. he's meeting with ministers including sinn fein's michelle who made michelle o'neill, who made history becoming the history by becoming the country's republican first

country's first republican first minister, and rishi sunak is calling on northern ireland's politicians to now focus on delivering for families and businesses. he's insisting the £33 billion package offered by £3.3 billion package offered by westminster is more than enough . westminster is more than enough. but the newly formed executive has already written to the prime minister calling for urgent discussions on more long terme funding. earlier on, gb news northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris praised the leaders of the new power sharing government. i think they demonstrated on saturday that they are willing and able to work together in a very positive way to do all the things that northern ireland needs. >> i mean, northern ireland hasn't had devolved government for two years. there's a really big list of things that need to be done. public services need reform and transformation and part of the package we put in is over £3 billion to help that happen. >> police are intensifying their efforts to capture chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi . with attack suspect abdul ezedi. with the manhunt now into its fifth day, a £20,000 reward is being

offered for any information that could lead to his arrest. he's wanted in connection with an attack in south london last week that left a woman critically injured and her two daughters hurt. detective say his last known movements show that his aide left tower hill tube station in east london, just after 9:30 on wednesday evening. last week . it comes as concerns last week. it comes as concerns grow about how the convicted convicted sex offender was able to secure asylum in the uk after claiming to convert christianity. the home secretary , james cleverly, is expected to receive an initial report on the case later today . meanwhile, case later today. meanwhile, some 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm home barge in dorset have also reportedly converted to christianity , converted to christianity, raising concerns that migrants are claiming to change their faith in order to stay in the uk . the telegraph newspaper today suggests that 1 in 7 of the 300 migrants on the barge are attending local churches , attending local churches, fuelling concerns about the role that churches have in asylum claims . the home secretary is

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widespread cancellations. rail operators are warning of extremely limited services and reduced timetables from 7:00 this morning through to 7:00 tonight. the 20 month dispute over pay and conditions is still deadlocked, with no talks planned . 1 in 5 over 55 year planned. 1 in 5 over 55 year olds say that they feel discriminated against because of their age. that's according to a new survey . complaints include new survey. complaints include limited opportunity in the workplace and increased job pressures for performance . the pressures for performance. the report by canada life also shows a negative shift in attitudes towards older employees. the financial firm says that employers need to create more inclusive environments for staff of all ages , and finally, taylor of all ages, and finally, taylor swift has made music history, becoming the first person to win the grammys album of the year four times. the singer songwriter won the prize for her album midnight after previous wins in 2010, 2016 and in 2021. the 66th grammys. last night was

a big night for women across the musical spectrum, with female artists taking home the biggest four awards of the night. artists taking home the biggest four awards of the night . and four awards of the night. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> very good morning . ten 06i >> very good morning. ten 06i hope you had a lovely week . and, hope you had a lovely week. and, uh, right, you've been getting in touch this this morning. this is about the, um, asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm converting christianity. yeah converting to christianity. yeah of cynically think of course. you cynically think they are cynically think it's an outrage that they're gaming the system . maybe they've just seen system. maybe they've just seen the you think how many on >> if you think how many are on there, a hundred on there, a few hundred are on there. what quarter there. and what a quarter of them are converting to christianity. if that was happening over the country, happening all over the country, there'd our there'd be no crisis in our pews, are empty. there'd be no crisis in our pevwell, are empty. there'd be no crisis in our pevwell, ar

it. and marion has said the lawyers migrants lawyers and the migrants know how the system. this how to work the system. this country sleepwalking into country is sleepwalking into disaster. archbishop disaster. the archbishop is playing audience, not playing to an audience, not a genuine person. and course, genuine person. and of course, he'll jumping up and down he'll be jumping up and down next week in house lords he'll be jumping up and down ne)the eek in house lords he'll be jumping up and down ne)the when house lords he'll be jumping up and down ne)the when the house lords he'll be jumping up and down ne)the when the rwanda lords he'll be jumping up and down ne)the when the rwanda billrds he'll be jumping up and down ne)the when the rwanda bill is. on the when the rwanda bill is back the house of lords . back in the house of lords. >> and what john say? he >> and what does john say? he says, think we know bringing says, i think we know bringing in millions of illegal, illegal migrants, they migrants, uh, because they will bnng migrants, uh, because they will bring for gdp growth. bring in growth for gdp growth. but actually the result is it's broken britain. >> that's right. wayne said. it's ridiculous that the refugees can convert to christianity to not be deported. it really should be investigated. well the trouble is, you see, wayne, we've discovered that the church of england they've england vicars, they've published called published a report called supporting the church support asylum seekers guidance for church of england clergy, how to help if their claims are refused , if their claims are refused, pray for them. >> vicar and his system as they leave the country. don't then assist them to gain the system so they can then stay because of their christianity. that's what

their christianity. that's what the church should be doing. i just can't stop thinking about giorgia meloni in italy . giorgia meloni in italy. >> having made this deal with albania, this is not albania, whereby this is not happening now, this will not happening now, this will not happen . in the same way happen to italy. in the same way because anybody wants to come there, gets processed now in a in a processing centre in albania. i mean, so they're not having it. why having to deal with it. why can't that? that's what can't we do that? that's what albania italy's albania has become. italy's rwanda, i believe in rwanda, de says. i believe in god , but this is the reason i god, but this is the reason i don't a church. i don't don't have a church. i don't believe in the morals of the leaders. asylum leaders. rod says genuine asylum seekers processed with seekers should be processed with the that they arrive the status that they arrive with, including their religion. any should see any discovered lie should see them removed. them immediately removed. >> they. >> well, i'm surprised they. >> well, i'm surprised they. >> and on and on and on. >> and on and on and on. >> i bear in mind a lot of >> i mean, bear in mind a lot of them, when they come here, they won't come won't say where they come from or they but remember or who they are. but remember abdul who is on the run abdul ezedi who is on the run day five, is it? or day six of the yeah. after the manhunt? yeah. after throwing the alkaline in the face the woman two face of the woman and the two young children he his young children twice he his asylum claim was rejected. and what he converted to what did he do? he converted to christianity so he couldn't be deported to afghanistan, where he said he'd be persecuted.

persecution frankly, is not good enough for him. yeah, and on that topic, alan has said there should be a public inquiry into the chemical attacker the way the chemical attacker was alkali rather than acid. >> anyway, got asylum questioning the police. the priest, lawyers, the civil priest, the lawyers, the civil service handlers, the judge and anyone to do with that asylum case makes this country is a laughing stock. >> we are a laughing stock because as you say, bev in italy she's only been prime minister for five minutes. she's done a deal with that with albania. okay. albania is a neighbouring country but deport country to italy. but to deport their asylum seekers there and their asylum seekers there and their applications to be processed there. and the bet they come back. they don't come back. hm. >> genius. she's she's discussed it november. february. it in november. february. it's now 40 asylum now happening. 40 asylum seekers on stockholm as we on the bibby stockholm as we said converting to said are converting to christianity . and have christianity. and let's have a discussion with this now with conservative for the isle conservative mp for the isle of wight, good to wight, bob seely. bob, good to see morning . very good see you this morning. very good morning um, you share morning to you. um, do you share our frustration and that of our viewers when we listen to this as such an easy loophole for people wishing to settle here,

to just tick that box and here they can stay. i'm only bad. >> morning, andrew. and morning to your listeners and viewers. uh, do share your uh, yes, i do share your concerns. you're being a little unfair on rishi. we've actually got the deal with albania, and the following our the italians are following our example, other way example, not the other way around and result, illegal around. and as a result, illegal migration from albania has been dramatically reduced . and before dramatically reduced. and before i answer your question, we are reducing. we have reduced illegal migration to 36. needs to go down much more. but in most other european countries it's going up by over 50. so there is a downward trend here. there's an upward trend everywhere else. >> so now that's but but let's come back okay. >> bob , you're talking >> but just bob, you're talking about returns agreement with about the returns agreement with albania. with you. that albania. i agree with you. that has a success. you're has been a success. and you're right. government does not right. your government does not get for that. but get enough credit for that. but in what italy is doing, in terms of what italy is doing, they now, they are funding they have now, they are funding a two a reasonable cost. two processing centres in albania, so people wanting to come so that people wanting to come to get processed there and to italy get processed there and they get sent home or they either get sent home or they either get sent home or they allowed to go to italy they either get sent home or they stay allowed to go to italy

they either get sent home or they stay there, d to go to italy they either get sent home or they stay there, that go to italy they either get sent home or they stay there, that is to italy they either get sent home or they stay there, that is ouritaly and stay there, that is our their rwanda . why aren't we their rwanda. why aren't we doing that with albania ? doing that with albania? >> yeah, because we've already got a really good deal. but it's a good question. i'll ask the home secretary when i next see him. i suspect it's because we don't do that with don't need to do that with albania because we've got albania now, because we've got a returns policy already. and returns policy already. um, and having a centre there is not necessarily what we need. that's my gut instinct, because we've already got . but i'll check it already got. but i'll check it when it comes to the question about , um, when it comes to the question about, um, all our, all these sort of , uh, surprise christians sort of, uh, surprise christians on the seb gorka . look, i mean, on the seb gorka. look, i mean, i'd like to think it's real and should be respected, but frankly, i think the sad reality is that the churches are complicit in the abuse of the asylum system . and we are asylum system. and we are heanng asylum system. and we are hearing so often of stories of the that the courts and, you the way that the courts and, you know, over the mail on know, it's all over the mail on sunday, the bbc experts are rigging the asylum system in the interests very often of criminals. and it's the british people. it's dire and we are trying to get a grip with it. but it's becoming this

multi—headed monster. we've seen the bishops kicking off in the house of lords, we've seen the way that so—called expert witnesses i was reading in the mail yesterday , uh, expert mail yesterday, uh, expert witnesses saying that sort witnesses are saying that sort of. you've got sex offender criminals in this country who can't go back to somalia because the somalis may not like it. really, that surprises really, sherlock, that surprises me. so do we have to have me. so why do we have to have them in this country? it's just it's and we are trying to it's bad and we are trying to deal only thing i'd deal with it. the only thing i'd say any other party say is that any other party would make more. it would would make a much more. it would be worse. we're trying be even worse. we're trying to improve the situation. we're trying to bring down both illegal migration . but illegal and legal migration. but the stinks the system frankly stinks and we're trying change and we're trying to change it. and it's time . it's taking time. >> and did mention the word >> and you did mention the word bob . you said the bob complicit. you said the church is complicit. we've seen bob complicit. you said the churdocumentilicit. we've seen bob complicit. you said the churdocument is:it. we've seen bob complicit. you said the churdocument is doing've seen bob complicit. you said the churdocument is doing the seen this document is doing the rounds church support rounds. it says church support for seekers, guidance for for asylum seekers, guidance for the church england clergy , the church of england clergy, how help if their claims are how to help if their claims are refused if their are refused. if their claims are refused, they've gone through the legal process. why the legal process. bob, why doesn't then pray for doesn't the church then pray for the seeker? unlucky the asylum seeker? unlucky you're now being deported to another country. instead, they connive in a system by which

they stay . you say you're they can stay. you say you're going to be a christian, young sir or young lady and you can stay. that's not what the church should be doing. no 86% of the illegal migration. >> it is a young male because 86% of them, uh , pay organised 86% of them, uh, pay organised crime to come here, uh, effectively. um, and then they, uh. yeah, it's the system is not defensible and we are trying to change it. the problem is you've had this system in place for years, and we are now trying to build post—brexit. we are trying to build a system where we control this control who comes into this country. it a struggle? yes. country. is it a struggle? yes. are doing to best fix are we doing our to best fix it? yes. look, i listen to what yes. and look, i listen to what talking about the acid case. i listen to what gillian said yesterday. and i hope i think she was a little bit misquoted, but i tell you the majority, but i can tell you the majority, the overwhelming of the overwhelming majority of conservative think that conservative mps think that absolutely illegal immigration conservative mps think that atparttely illegal immigration conservative mps think that atpart of/ illegal immigration conservative mps think that atpart of the agal immigration conservative mps think that atpart of the problem igration conservative mps think that atpart of the problem here,)n conservative mps think that atpart of the problem here, not is part of the problem here, not just you've got random just you've got some random person in person throwing acid in somebody's face, you've got illegal coming here illegal immigrants coming here and crimes. this is and committing crimes. this is really . yes. and

really serious. yes. and excuse me. it's absolute part of a me. and it's absolute part of a part of the wider debate and we're deal with it. we're trying to deal with it. i would just we have brought would just say we have brought down migration into this down illegal migration into this country. is enough? no. country. 36. is that enough? no. we want to bring it down 100. but let's face it, the labour party, their policy would be to give everyone asylum here. >> what are barriers towards >> what are the barriers towards mps about this issue? mps talking about this issue? frankly would you say, bob, because you're quite forthright and you do a lot of media interviews, so you, you know, you talk from the heart and you're telling us what you think. that's quite rare actually. you don't get many mps who, particularly on this issue , who, particularly on this issue, will tell us what they really think. you won't. think. why you won't. >> i'm not. i'm not sure i buy that. i think with the labour party, think absolutely party, i think that's absolutely right. issue like right. they avoid the issue like the actually they the plague because actually they they problem with, they don't have a problem with, with scale, uh , migration, with large scale, uh, migration, illegal legal. um, but i illegal or legal. um, but i think that's because , um, the think that's because, um, the labour party and the left as a whole have this sort of victim culture victim oppressor, a victim versus oppressor ideology, and they see people

coming to this country illegally or legally as victims of this or victims of that, and therefore they should be supported. conservatives a different conservatives take a different view, and i think we really grip it. i'll tell you something i'm trying to do. um, i will get the debate at some point in the next six weeks. two months, and bringing a private member's bringing in a private member's bill need to bill in parliament will need to vote limit on legal and vote to fix a limit on legal and asylum and work migration stats and figures . so parliament, my and figures. so parliament, my plan is for parliament to set a cap on migration into this country annually. and what that will mean is that every single member of parliament will have to go back to his or her constituency and say, voted . constituency and say, i voted. for 100,000 cap or 50,000 or 200 and 50,000 or 1 million, and 50,000 or1 million, whatever, whatever the number, parliament has to own it. and mps have to explain it to their constituents. and only then, in my opinion , are we going to get my opinion, are we going to get honest talking about the asylum system, will force honest talking about the asylum system to will force honest talking about the asylum system to make will force honest talking about the asylum system to make a will force honest talking about the asylum system to make a decision:e

honest talking about the asylum system to make a decision ,e honest talking about the asylum system to make a decision , you people to make a decision, you know, and in a good way. you know, and in a good way. you know , i was a big fan of letting know, i was a big fan of letting hong kong people in here, but it pushed up our asylum figures. i'm a of letting ukrainians i'm a fan of letting ukrainians in, but it's pushing our in, but it's pushing up our asylum figures , so we be asylum figures, so we need to be explaining make these explaining why we make these decisions to people. do we really take in lots of really need to take in lots of fruit pickers for farming, or do we just automate? um we just need to automate? um a picking far more using ai, using the new machinery so it will force us to actually think much harder about this, about this issue . issue. >> can we ask you about the manhunt for abdul ezedi? obviously it's police operational issue here, but it is day five. now. this is a very conspicuous figure with that very large facial injury. um, it is surprising, isn't it, that five days on. no sightings of him. i think the last sighting was wednesday or thursday morning . are the police not morning. are the police not getting to grips with this in your view, bob , i'm sure that your view, bob, i'm sure that the police are getting to grips , the police are getting to grips, and i'm loathed since it's just the met is trying to change is reforming . reforming. >> and actually most of the

police officers , men and women police officers, men and women that i come across are profound respect and gratitude for respect for and gratitude for the i'm not going the job they do. i'm not going to criticise police here. to criticise the police here. the the system, and the problem is the system, and the problem the system that the problem is the system that we've build since we've allowed to build up since membership european membership of the european union, people come union, where people could come here whether we here by rights, whether we wanted this country or wanted them in this country or needed this country. um, needed them in this country. um, and we still effectively and we are still effectively trying that system. um, trying to fix that system. um, i have that we are going have no doubt that we are going to, because we're sovereign, to, because we're now sovereign, we build a better we are going to build a better system, better laws, better government country . for government for our country. for sure. it's taking it's taking longer than i like, but we longer than i would like, but we are moving in right are moving in the right direction. are to get direction. we are trying to get to our borders. and to grips with our borders. and let's back let's remember, if we were back in european union , we in the european union, we wouldn't so we need to be wouldn't be. so we need to be getting to grips with our with our border control. and we're doing um, and it's down doing that. um, and it's down illegal migration is down 36% a year on year when it's up in most other countries. is that good it's going good enough? no, but it's going in the right direction. we need to i the rwanda to do more. i hope the rwanda bill, mean, you get the bill, i mean, look, you get the bishops on your programme, andrew and bev, and say to them

why they're blocking the rwanda bill. >> well, i guess it's and it's the lawyers as well, isn't it. it's that there always the it's that there are always the lawyers this, lawyers swimming around this, this fortune. >> know that there's expert >> we know that there's expert witnesses expert witnesses because they're expert witnesses because they're expert witnesses are saying, oh, this person can't back because, person can't go back because, you know, they've, they've , you you know, they've, they've, you know, raped teenagers. and it wouldn't safe for them to go wouldn't be safe for them to go back home. these people have back home. so these people have to country. to stay in our country. so you've um, you've got the you've got, um, you've got the lawyers the cases . um, lawyers arguing the cases. um, you've got sometimes judges with political opinions. um, you've got labour politicians hiding behind the system. you it is taking a long time to deconstruct it. >> yeah. last quick question, bob. are we to have bob. when are we going to have an in country ? an election in this country? >> love an election in >> i would love an election in may, honest, may, to be honest, because i don't think labour party has don't think the labour party has a clue what believes what a clue what it believes in, what it for. um, and i think it stands for. um, and i think the last thing that they would want election. want is an early election. i think probably to think we're probably going to get november get an election in november because i think inflation will come on come down. there's good news on the got the the economy. we've got the fastest since fastest growing economy since 2010. out 2010. that's now official. out of european major of all the european major european we're of all the european major europ

europ> it's 5050 but i've still got money it. yeah think money on it. yeah i still think it's distinct possibility . i it's a distinct possibility. i think there's sorts of think there's all sorts of issues small which issues over small boats, which issues over small boats, which is problem if inflation is be a problem if inflation tumbles sharply in the next couple of weeks. well, i think they might for it. they might go for it. >> know, i'm still >> i don't know, i'm still moving fingers though, but probably minister's probably his prime minister's never up power. never willingly give up power. >> he's to lose , >> and if he's going to lose, does he not want to cling on november? >> i think factoring >> and also, i think factoring in how the american election would play , we trump as would play, we have trump as

president america. does that would play, we have trump as presi rishi? america. does that would play, we have trump as presi rishi? would ca. does that would play, we have trump as presi rishi? would it. does that would play, we have trump as presi rishi? would it affect that would play, we have trump as presi rishi? would it affect yout help rishi? would it affect you the way you vote? because rishi would then make capital of imagine donald trump having to sit keir starmer. sit down with keir starmer. that'd bit awkward, that'd be a bit awkward, wouldn't it? >> he then presented himself as continuity a man continuity exactly right. a man with come. continuity exactly right. a man witirishi come. continuity exactly right. a man witirishi sunak come. continuity exactly right. a man witirishi sunak is come. continuity exactly right. a man witirishi sunak is in come. continuity exactly right. a man witirishi sunak is in northern >> rishi sunak is in northern ireland celebrate ireland this morning. celebrate the sharing and the return of power sharing and gb some very exciting gb news has some very exciting news about prime minister. news about the prime minister. we'll bring next. this we'll bring you that next. this is newsroom on .

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hope. good morning, christopher. here he is. good to see you there in stormont. how significant is this new arrangement as of today? i guess they're back in their offices . they're back in their offices. >> well varied behind me is the stormont parliament building meets the first time tomorrow behind the camera is stormont castle, where we've just seen michelle o'neill shake hands with rishi sunak on the steps . with rishi sunak on the steps. there they were asked to wave by the camera, assembled cameras and reporters. no wave, just businesslike handshakes . two businesslike handshakes. two years the since the dup walked out of that power sharing agreement. of course . and then agreement. of course. and then concern, as andrew says there about a nationalist first minister. well now they're in charge . um, i think it's about charge. um, i think it's about time, um, talking to local people here overnight in belfast. there's been , in some belfast. there's been, in some cases, a ten year wait for hip operations, five years to see a consultant . in operations, five years to see a consultant. in many operations, five years to see a consultant . in many ways, the consultant. in many ways, the pubuc consultant. in many ways, the public services we for take granted in uk have been slowing

down without the local um mps for areas to try and make things happen. that, that that connection with communities meant that it has get hard to get to spend public money. last night did speak to chris night i did speak to chris heaton—harris, the northern ireland secretary, and he said there was reason to be optimistic. >> solve a number of the practical issues about getting goods across into northern ireland. but this deal is way more that . this deal is more than that. this deal is actually about future the actually about the future of the union well. we want to union as well. we want to strengthen union as much as strengthen the union as much as we possibly a we possibly can. i'm a conservative and unionist politician aconservative conservative and unionist politician a conservative and politician in a conservative and unionist government, and so there's a financial package that goes alongside this and a whole host other unions host of other unions strengthening measures we strengthening measures that we think whole package think builds this whole package into something special . into something special. >> that's right. chris heaton—harris talking to gv news last night here in belfast. there is a lot of reason to be optimistic. i mean, he talked about the money, the 5.3, the 3.3 million over five years. they're pushing into northern

ireland to strengthen the union . ireland to strengthen the union. um, and let's hope that starts to work for this country, this region. it needs that money. and it's too long without it's been too long without a democratic mandate here for the for the for the government . for the for the government. >> thank you. chris uh, >> okay. thank you. chris uh, christopher hope there uh, in stormont. and talking of rishi sunak, i think we have some, uh, good news. is he still there? >> you've still got chris. >> you've still got chris. >> oh, he's still there, chris. >> oh, he's still there, chris. >> he's still there. yeah, i'm still here now, bev. >> well, chris, we're going to ask about this is quite a if ask you about this is quite a if that's right, quite a coup with rishi is it rishi sunak coming up on is it sunday, or monday. sunday, monday or monday. >> it's, it's monday next >> no it's, it's monday next week andrew. it's monday, 8 pm. uh, the 12th of the 12th of february. that's right. it's a gb news people's forum . the gb news people's forum. the prime minister. it's a chance for moving us journalists to one side and letting our viewers and listeners ask the prime minister the questions they want answered. it's a unique idea in british broadcasting . it's kicks british broadcasting. it's kicks off really. i think the long election campaign we're going to be putting politicians in front

of our viewers and listeners as much as we can. here's what the pm had to say to us earlier. >> hi, rishi sunak, here. join me for a special gb news news people's forum live on monday the 12th of february. i want to hear about the issues that matter to you for your chance to be part of the audience and to put your questions to me . scan put your questions to me. scan the qr code on screen or go to gb news. com see you there . so gb news. com see you there. so christopher, if people do scan the qr code with their mobile phone or if it's easier for you at home, go on the website and register your interest. >> and then what do they what might they to do? be in the might they get to do? be in the audience with rishi sunak? or is it questions it about emailing in questions as . as. >> no, no, no , it's about being >> no, no, no, it's about being in the audience. our colleague stephen dixon is hosting the event, but it's really all about the viewers and listeners. if you can't work the qr code on the screen, there , you can go to the screen, there, you can go to gb news comm , forward slash pm gb news comm, forward slash pm and sign up there, fill out a

short questionnaire. we're working with a company called survation to ensure that we have an audience which is politically balanced . and, um, so it's going balanced. and, um, so it's going to be the question will come from really representative of interest the entire uk , and interest in the entire uk, and that's the idea of it to try and almost the idea of almost take out the idea of journalism getting in the way of connecting viewers and listeners with people matter. with the people in matter. in this the minister this case, the prime minister >> well well done, >> fantastic. well well done, everybody . everybody. >> so it's a scoop. i have a queue for gb news. >> the our viewers and watchers will have some brilliant questions about all sorts of the other channels. wouldn't ask him about start thinking about them i'iow. now. >> definitely. and get them submitted. yeah chris, have you got one up your sleeve ? got one up your sleeve? >> well, i mean no i can't. yes, i would think . um did you. oh i would think. um did you. oh gosh. you put me on the spot there and have i asked you you you've you love for a long question. i think i'd ask him. um, you know, did you ever. what

chance got win? are chance have you got to win? are you plans for after being you making plans for after being prime minister? because i think he's far behind 20 he's so far behind the polls, 20 points behind. and um, you know, is going to win and is he really going to win and get that kind of passionate response him response when you're with him privately? he does talk passionately issues like passionately about issues like his right wing tax cutting his his right wing tax cutting views , wanting to bring down the views, wanting to bring down the net migration, bring down stop illegal migration. i think what the frustration has been for downing street is that passionate sunak in him often isn't seen in the in the conventional broadcast setting. i think maybe putting in front of actual voters where he's got to convince them may bring out this inner sunak which number 10 want to want us to see. well the question i'd ask him, chris, beanng question i'd ask him, chris, bearing in mind this is happening a monday, he happening on a monday, is he going to continue with his fast, which at on sunday which starts at 5 pm. on sunday and ends at 6:00 on tuesday morning? >> so he could be a bit tetchy after 24 hours of that food when he's going to face a gb news audience online, on tv and on

the radio. >> great question. what's yours bev? >> excess deaths ? i'd want to >> excess deaths? i'd want to ask him why nobody in parliament is talking about the fact that we've had 10 to 15% increase excess deaths for the last 18 months in this country, and he won't talk about it . yeah. won't talk about it. yeah. anyway. well, no, what? you would ask questions. >> they're great questions. >> they're great questions. >> all right. chris. well, well done. congratulations. getting the prime minister on gb news always good. >> still to come . you won't >> still to come. you won't believe the reason why one newcastle fan has been banned from going to her beloved club's games . you will not want to miss games. you will not want to miss this. that are much more after your morning's news with sam. >> good morning from the gb newsroom. the headlines just after 10:30, the prime minister has now met with the northern ireland first minister, michelle o'neill , on a visit to stormont o'neill, on a visit to stormont castle. it's the first time the country has had a republican in the role , rishi sunak there to

the role, rishi sunak there to mark the return of power sharing. he's also calling on northern ireland's politicians to now focus delivering for to now focus on delivering for families and businesses, insisting the £33 billion package offered by westminster is more than enough. but the newly formed executive has already written to the prime minister calling for urgent discussions on more long terme funding . police are intensifying funding. police are intensifying their efforts to capture chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi . with the manhunt now in ezedi. with the manhunt now in its fifth day, a £20,000 reward is being offered for information that could lead to his arrest. he's wanted in connection with an attack in south london last week that left a 30 year old woman critically injured and her two daughters hurt. it comes as concerns grow about how the convicted sex offender was able to secure asylum in the uk after claiming to convert to christianity . meanwhile 40 christianity. meanwhile 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm . home barge have stockholm. home barge have reportedly also converted to christianity, raising concerns

that migrants are claiming to change religion in order change their religion in order to stay in the uk. the telegraph newspaper today suggested newspaper has today suggested that 1 in 7 of the 300 migrants on barge are attending local on the barge are attending local churches in dorset , fuelling churches in dorset, fuelling concerns about the role churches may have in asylum claims. the home secretary is said to be considering whether any legal changes need to be made to ensure the claims of so—called conversion made by asylum seekers are properly scrutinised , used and the prime minister has defended uk airstrike in yemen, saying the houthis legal illegal campaign in the red sea is now having economic consequences . these, for those consequences. these, for those watching on tv , are pictures of watching on tv, are pictures of more overnight strikes that were carried out by the us is aimed at disarming the rebels anti—ship cruise missiles in the region in the white house today has said that they plan to launch more strikes at around iran backed groups in the middle east in coming days. but rebel leaders say the latest uk us airstrikes won't stop them from targeting more ships. airstrikes won't stop them from targeting more ships . and for

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radio. >> 1040 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. we've got in the studio with us a former labour adviser, matthew laza , an author adviser, matthew laza, an author and broadcaster, emma wolfe, who often agree and more the often agree and more to the point, i'm sure point, disagree. and i'm sure they will today. >> right. this story, guys, it's a front page of the times. the pubuc a front page of the times. the public we public public apparently. and we are we are the public. apparently we want purse for all of want a digital purse for all of our records. our gp and medical records. emma, we? emma, do we? >> we do, but do we want the nhs in any way , shape or form in in any way, shape or form in charge of this public infrastructure outsourcing project ? in 2013, the public project? in 2013, the public accounts committee said that that phase old fiasco, the £10 billion nhs attempt to put everything online which should have happened decades ago, was one of the government's watch. one of the most expensive

contracting fiascos in the history of the public sector. quite so. so that's billions there, which will probably go down the drain again. >> fujitsu were part of that. >> fujitsu were part of that. >> goodness they were. you >> oh my goodness they were. you couldn't worse. not couldn't make it any worse. not only post office not only all of that post office not only all of that post office not only that that only billions that will that will probably squandered. will probably get squandered. the contractors the amount of public contractors that contractors that were private contractors that will be rubbing their hands. what security? hands. what about security? what about about about data breaches? what about somebody hold hacking somebody getting hold hacking into your medical records? private medical records? very, very lucrative and sensitive . very lucrative and sensitive. and so do i want this? in theory , yes. do i want the nhs anywhere near it? not really. >> i don't know if i want the nhs any private business nhs or any private business anywhere near 35 billion was spent track trace. spent on track and trace. matthew you, matthew i remind you, a ridiculous system. matthew i remind you, a ridiyeah,; system. matthew i remind you, a ridiyeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. no, no, i mean, i agree you about mean, i agree with you about track trace. mean, track and trace. look, i mean, at moment it's of bit at the moment it's a sort of bit of a hodgepodge in the nhs because agree that in because i agree with you that in theory, would be very worried theory, i would be very worried about protections about the protections in place. but our but actually, of course, our medical on online medical records are on online systems nhs. they're systems within the nhs. they're just on it appears, about 20 different which different online systems which don't other. don't talk to each other. so actually some that means

actually in some ways that means that points of that there's more points of weakness they can got weakness where they can be got at, which at, rather than one system which has . i mean, when you go has managed. i mean, when you go on on to get a new on to log on to get a new prescription at my gp surgery, you and see your whole you can click and see your whole medical that medical record there. but that doesn't else doesn't talk to anybody else that's other systems. so that's in 19 other systems. so absolutely protections, protections, but in protections, protections. but in theory remember the theory this works. remember the nhs of a fax nhs is the only use of a fax machines in britain. machines left in britain. >> really? yeah. >> really? yeah. >> still still the largest >> yes. still still the largest user of machines and a lot user of fax machines and a lot of money on fax paper. >> who are they faxing? no one else. >> they fax each other. >> they fax each other. >> yeah, yeah, what they do. >> yeah. because the referral letters sometimes are faxed of coui'se. >> f- 5 times are f— >> and the times are calling it a passport. we're being a health passport. we're being prepared. primed to prepared. we're being primed to be with the idea that our be okay with the idea that our medical status will get us in and out of places , emma. which and out of places, emma. which is horribly reminiscent of what happened during the pandemic. that's the other concern. and this is when all are in. this is when you all are in. then blair is basically then tony blair is basically running country and he has running the country and he has a vested interest, and he is desperate for this sort of centralised. >> that's the other concern. are they to start they suddenly going to start saying, your saying, oh, you haven't had your eight are eight ninth, 10th booster are

sorry, not on your sorry, it's not on your passport. you can't this. you passport. you can't do this. you can't do that. you can't go there. you're not eligible for this. and the definition, this. and the other definition, i'm nervous this. i'm very nervous about this. >> take it with you. >> i've got to take it with you. i mean, online and it i mean, it's online only, and it was to be on your id card was going to be on your id card back in the. >> want to send beth >> i don't want to send beth into over the edge. i was into a over the edge. i was going to say paroxysm, but i don't if i could say it don't know if i could say it properly. i'm always verge of properly. i'm always a verge of a of despair at the moment. >> it m. m- m— >> um, it does feel a bit. >> um, it does feel a bit. >> i mean, i get up about >> i mean, i get worked up about this and bevin and emily, but it does feel more more does feel more and more information collated. information is being collated. >> look, i'm with you. >> yeah. look, i'm with you. >> yeah. look, i'm with you. >> brothers looking >> yeah. look, i'm with you. >>quite brothers looking >> yeah. look, i'm with you. >>quite asithers looking >> yeah. look, i'm with you. >>quite as anxious.iking us quite as as anxious. >> concerned, and >> but i am concerned, and i think there needs to be massive protections within the protections within this. on the other rather that other hand, i would rather that there tract where my there was a tract where my medical records, rather than being between hospital being faxed between hospital and gp , which i use. gp surgery, which i use. >> but you need to really use your you need your imagination. you need to think, what's worst think, okay, what's the worst case ? of course, on case scenario? of course, on your records says your medical records it says that had treatment that you've had treatment for a mental depression, that you've had treatment for a mental you depression, that you've had treatment for a mental you wantiepression, that you've had treatment for a mental you wantiepgo sion, that you've had treatment for a mental you wantiepgo to n, that you've had treatment for a mental you wantiepgo to an and then you want to go to an employer at some point can employer who at some point can demand your medical demand to see your medical records, because that is just

around corner. then you may around the corner. then you may not get that because are. >> ties into the >> and it also ties into the pharmacy week you pharmacy story. last week you know, would know, how much would a pharmacist to look at? pharmacist be able to look at? is it? and of course, not just the themselves, the pharmacists themselves, but people pharmacy. people who work in the pharmacy. i my gp surgery i mean, i find my gp surgery you. it's even before it you. it's even before covid it was based. um, was entirely phone based. um, and frankly, i didn't particularly like discussing my, my, my medical. >> you couldn't go in and see anybody. >> you couldn't you couldn't make an appointment to go and see everything was done see anybody. everything was done on the phone. they on the phone. and then they decided you in decided whether to call you in or not. yeah. >> they triage they triage you. >> but this was before >> but this was way before covid. of the pioneers. >> but even the simplest things are not working in nhs. the are not working in the nhs. the other a couple other day, well, a couple of months i mentioned months ago, i think i mentioned it had blood tests at it before, i had blood tests at ucla, london ucla, the biggest london hospital, couldn't hospital, the gp couldn't access like blood results from, like simple blood results from, um, was down um, the hospital that was down the road. then to the road. so then they had to repeat what is the. repeat blood. like what is the. they can't even do that. they can't even blood. can't even put your blood. >> what the scheme >> well that was what the scheme would to try would be designed to do to try and get over. but as it say, it needs protection. >> of all that and the >> the cost of all that and the inconvenience, it's just, no,

this not going to this is not this is not going to happen time soon. a way in happen any time soon. a way in which can own our own which we can own our own information that have information and that we have the passwords information and that we have the pasyeah,s you definitely >> yeah, i think you definitely would under this scheme that the times commissioner, times health commissioner, they've, they've they've been getting experts getting a panel of experts spending people getting a panel of experts sjbitding people getting a panel of experts sjbit like people getting a panel of experts sjbit like a people getting a panel of experts sjbit like a house people getting a panel of experts sjbit like a house of people getting a panel of experts sjbit like a house of commonse a bit like a house of commons select committee. >> but of experts, of >> uh, but of experts, not of mps. that they think mps. i think that they think that a patient driving that a patient should be driving it should be in control it and should be in control of it. as i say in my gp, you can log on and just buy this log on and they just buy this software off thing. software off the off the thing. so and see your so and log on and see your records where indeed if the patients do drive it because the patients are increasingly you won't will do won't see a doctor, you will do it the phone, it will be by email. >> it's not good enough. >> it's not good enough. >> no, no. it tells me i've >> no, no. and it tells me i've shrunk an inch my, my medical history because, they history because, you know, they all when go to the history because, you know, they all um, when go to the history because, you know, they all um, i'm when go to the history because, you know, they all um, i'm shrinking. go to the gp. um, i'm shrinking. >> need need to move >> we need to we need to move on. don't go anywhere. on. guys, don't go anywhere. we're quick we're going to take a quick break. but still to come. nigel farage hinted that he is farage has hinted that he is open minded

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>> i'm confused . very good >> i'm confused. very good morning. thank you forjoining morning. thank you for joining us. we are still joined by former labour adviser matthew laza and broadcaster laza and author and broadcaster emma studio. right, emma wolf in the studio. right, matthew, story about matthew, this story about a newcastle fan who was newcastle united fan who was banned from going to games. newcastle united fan who was banned from going to games . why? banned from going to games. why? >> this is a newcastle united >> so this is a newcastle united fan called lindsay smith. she's 34. she's been investigated for four months by a special unit set up, um, funded by the premier league to unveil racism . premier league to unveil racism. but she and she's a lesbian and she's a newcastle united fan, and she has been from and she has been banned from going because of her going to matches because of her views on the about trans views on the issue about trans right . and in particular, post right. and in particular, post that she made on twitter. whatever we want to call it now, which, um, have been collated in an 11 page dossier. >> this is she's going to a football match. >> yes. she's been so obviously banned from football matches for violence or for, you know, shouting racism from the quite rightly, this is so first of all, this is not about racism , all, this is not about racism, it's about trans rights. but secondly, it's not about what she's the ground . it's she's done in the ground. it's not about what she not because it's about what she

said on social media. i think unrelated football, because unrelated to football, because obviously aren't there are obviously there aren't there are no gay players , never mind no out gay players, never mind any players in the any out trans players in the premier league. >> but in a in a world of >> but she in a in a world of football, which is particularly not very friendly gay people, not very friendly to gay people, she's she champions she's a gay. she champions lesbian, gay and bisexual rights. these wretched people searched the bar she lives in to find anything she may said took images where i walk my dog, images of where i walk my dog, google images of the church there. the park . one section of there. the park. one section of there. the park. one section of the titled vulnerability the report, titled vulnerability his. it detailed how she'd repeatedly been of repeatedly been a victim of onune repeatedly been a victim of online abuse. repeatedly been a victim of onl it's abuse. repeatedly been a victim of onl it's extraordinary to do with >> it's extraordinary to do with this. course, the irony this. and of course, the irony is, i think the is, although i think the investigation fair investigation to be fair was conducted premier conducted by the premier league, but newcastle united, but her club, newcastle united, is owned by saudi arabia. well known liberal, well known liberals where a haven of lgbtqi+ rights 7 liberals where a haven of lgbtqi+ rights ? i don't think lgbtqi+ rights? i don't think so. i mean , the irony is just so. i mean, the irony is just beyond belief. >> you're in big trouble. >> you're in big trouble. >> absolutely. never mind. i mean, if you're a gay man, you're in trouble. never mind. uh being trans or anything else. i think that's what find i think that's what i find particularly galling about it.

who's these? particularly galling about it. whithe these? particularly galling about it. whithe premier se? particularly galling about it. whithe premier league, the power >> the premier league, the power to do this? >> seems >> well, it seems nobody. so she's so, um , you she's suing them. so, um, you know, frankly, sounds like know, frankly, it sounds like she's good case to, she's got a pretty good case to, uh, to take from what we can hean uh, to take from what we can hear, they would have hear, but they would have swatted some tweet that they didn't somebody tweet. >> they've kind dubbed >> they've kind of dubbed them in. the sort of in. it's part of the sort of stasi surveillance society. i mean, only spaces for women. >> probably. >> emma. probably. >> emma. probably. >> thing >> what a terrible thing for the premier doing in spying premier league doing in spying on our social media and views on our social media and on views like and irony of this >> and, and the irony of this is that, know, yes, they that, you know, yes, if they were, if they were following up planned if they were were, if they were following up plann> it's literally views outside of things. >> talking about it at

>> she's not talking about it at the match. >> not holding. >> no, she's not holding. >> no, she's not holding. >> not as far as we know. >> not as far as we know. >> and she trans >> holding banners and she trans used absolutely used people. it's absolutely ludicrous, isn't it? used people. it's absolutely lud she's. isn't it? used people. it's absolutely lud she's basically tweets >> she's basically done tweets that trans that are criticised. the trans activist yeah. and activist ideology. yeah. and this is about this this who hasn't is about the surveillance state and it is about corporate interfering . and about corporate interfering. and the thought police . yeah. the thought police. yeah. basically stopping you going around your free business to go and watch a football match. i mean, and also to hold views which don't conform , um, with which don't conform, um, with modern day wokery , which, of modern day wokery, which, of course, none of those, none of modern day wokery conforms to the views of owners of the the views of the owners of the football which by football club, which is owned by the sovereign wealth fund, the saudi sovereign wealth fund, which i can't can't get which just i can't i can't get away from kwasi. >> here is really >> and the irony here is really breathtaking. it's breathtaking. it's a it's a hugely point that hugely important point that this wretched club should an wretched club should compile an 11 document and they're owned. >> by whom? >> by whom? >> yeah . oh, we think the >> yeah. oh, we think the premier league, we do premier league, we did do the dossier the club. premier league, we did do the dossyeah, the club. premier league, we did do the dossyeah, the the club. premier league, we did do the dossyeah, the club the club. premier league, we did do the dossyeah, the club have:lub. premier league, we did do the dossyeah, the club have gone but yeah, the club have gone along with absolutely club, but yeah, the club have gone alorclubth absolutely club, but yeah, the club have gone alorclubth abzgonely club, but yeah, the club have gone alorclubth abzgone along club, but yeah, the club have gone alorclubth abzgone along with, the club have gone along with the club have gone along with the it's up to the club the ban. it's up to the club whether this is banned or not. so so a club where so absolutely. so a club where you i would, you know andrew you and i would, would arrested in saudi

would be arrested in saudi arabia. would emma arabia. we would bev and emma would lot of would be facing a lot of restrictions. the most restrictions. the most restrictions on restrictions in the world on your on your freedoms in saudi arabia. um and yet if you post a view that somebody like arabia. um and yet if you post a viaboutit somebody like arabia. um and yet if you post a viabout trans|ebody like arabia. um and yet if you post a viabout trans rights, like arabia. um and yet if you post a viabout trans rights, you like a about trans rights, you get banned matches. banned from going to matches. >> and and is this the >> and is this and is this the most important thing that's facing league? facing the premier league? yeah. when being, you when you have a man being, you know, across the pitch know, carried across the pitch with face bleeding and with his face bleeding and all of stuff, the unrest on with his face bleeding and all of way;tuff, the unrest on with his face bleeding and all of way to ff, the unrest on with his face bleeding and all of way to that the unrest on with his face bleeding and all of way to that match,irest on with his face bleeding and all of way to that match, the on with his face bleeding and all of way to that match, the big the way to that match, the big derby come on. >> and football at >> and football violence is at its highest rate since for 20 years inspired the years that somebody inspired the premier assessing premier league assessing department, the spying department, the spying department to look at this one. >> this is what's worrying. so they think these are their priorities. absolutely they think these are their prioritifindlbsolutely they think these are their prioritifindlbso thaty they think these are their prioritifindlbso that they've so >> to find out that they've so apparently complaint apparently the complaint that came against this woman came out against this woman lindsay, , this is from people lindsay, uh, this is from people presumably trans people or trans activists would activists who said they would feel unsafe had share feel unsafe if they had to share a space with someone who was so openly transphobic . nick. openly transphobic. nick. and they that her posts were they said that her posts were mocking the trans don't go to mocking of the trans don't go to the then. so exactly . the match then. so exactly. >> of this is potential >> so all of this is a potential to go or transgender to wanted to go or transgender people who wanted to go to the match couldn't in case she

happened to be the stand with happened to be in the stand with them they would them and they would feel, i mean, as man, but i would mean, as a gay man, but i would feel, you know, i would feel that people i don't that there were people i don't think the think lindsay would be the person would worried person i would be most worried about newcastle united about at a newcastle united match, it that. match, if i put it like that. >> how people would be >> and how many people would be at a newcastle match? >> and how many people would be at (50,000..tle match? >> and how many people would be at (50,000..tle mathyeah, 50,000. >> 50,000. 60,000? yeah, 50,000. she's unsafe. she's going to feel unsafe. >> to a lesbian >> so next to a lesbian supporter who's openly supporter who's been openly supportive says supportive as, as matthew says of gay bisexual, yeah, it's absolutely ludicrous. and how many um supporters many trans, um supporters were there match? we've moved. there at the match? we've moved. i'd love to know. >> she's been a supporter of that team since was a little girl. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> we're going to move on. you'll back in little you'll be back in a little while. still to are the while. still to come. are the police it's been five police useless? it's been five days. found police useless? it's been five day man found police useless? it's been five day man accused found police useless? it's been five day man accused of found police useless? it's been five day man accused of carryingd police useless? it's been five day man accused of carrying out the man accused of carrying out the man accused of carrying out the chemical attack in clapham. we're looking at we're going to be looking at that. anywhere. we're going to be looking at that. brighter anywhere. we're going to be looking at that. brighter outlookre. we're going to be looking at that. brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> alex burkill here. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. for many, it's going to be a largely dry but cloudy and blustery day . however,

and blustery day. however, across much of scotland it's a wet picture because we have a frontal system lingering here. this is going to persist for quite a while, which is why we're going to see some further heavy persistent rain, which we're going to see some further heavy bring)ersistent rain, which we're going to see some further heavy bring some ent rain, which we're going to see some further heavy bring some highain, which we're going to see some further heavy bring some high rainfall:h could bring some high rainfall totals, perhaps bringing the risk flooding for some. to risk of flooding for some. to the north this, there are the north of this, there are some colder air, so some significant could build up some colder air, so some signithe 1t could build up some colder air, so some signithe far could build up some colder air, so some signithe far north ould build up some colder air, so some signithe far north of d build up some colder air, so some signithe far north of scotland.» over the far north of scotland. but elsewhere, said, for but elsewhere, like i said, for many a dry picture, quite many it is a dry picture, quite cloudy though, and a few outbreaks rain are outbreaks of drizzly rain are possible you do need to possible and you do need to watch blustery watch out for some blustery winds. temperatures though, will be a touch above average for the time of many places time of year. many places getting double figures getting into double figures colder across the far north of scotland, overnight we scotland, though overnight we are going to see rain pushing its southwards into more its way southwards into more southern scotland, southern parts of scotland, across northern ireland and later into northern england. two to the south. this staying pretty cloudy. a few outbreaks of drizzly rain, perhaps, but most largely dry. most places largely dry. temperatures, though not dropping , many places dropping much, many places staying double figures . staying in double figures. however, across the of however, across the north of scotland we could see temperatures close to , temperatures dropping close to, if freezing, so some if not below freezing, so some

icy patches to watch out for tomorrow morning otherwise. and as we go through tomorrow, the rain continues its a rain continues its progress a little further southwards rain continues its progress a littlemore urther southwards rain continues its progress a littlemore centralouthwards rain continues its progress a littlemore central parts/ards rain continues its progress a littlemore central parts ofis into more central parts of england further england and wales. further south, staying dry again. and here temperatures on the mild side, so highs around 13 or side, so highs of around 13 or 14 celsius, but further north it is going to be chillier. some wintry to watch out for wintry showers to watch out for and some blustery winds by by. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> road may still to come. >> road may still to come. >> is the church of england complicit in helping asylum seekers fake claims by pretending to become. yes, chris martin? there may be some nuance to this conversation , ian, but to this conversation, ian, but we're they're up to it. it it this is britain's newsroom on gb news, the people's

channel. >> 11 am. 11 am. on monday, the 5th of february. >> this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev christianity converts bev turner christianity converts 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm barge are converting to in an attempt to to christianity in an attempt to stay in the country. >> maybe are just >> maybe they are just assimilating into a british way of or are they lying to of life or are they lying to stay in the uk? >> you know the answer to that manhunt. continue scotland yard is offering a 20,000 reward pound reward for information to find the clapham alkali attacker. how has he managed to avoid detection for almost a week? our reporter , ray addison. week? our reporter, ray addison. he's got more . gb news sources he's got more. gb news sources say this £20,000 reward suggests that those running the investigation believe azadi may be being harboured by friends, connections , or possibly even network. >> i'll have the latest from scotland yard and prime minister rishi sunak is to appear

exclusively on gb news people's forum. >> it's going to be an hour long q&a on the issues that matter most to you. let's hear what he has to say about it. hi rishi sunak here. >> join me for a special gb news people's forum live on monday the 12th of february. i want to hear about the issues that matter to you for your chance to be part of the audience and to put questions to me . scan put your questions to me. scan the qr code screen or go to the qr code on screen or go to gb com see you there and . gb news. com see you there and. social media crackdown. >> the brave mother of the murdered teenager brianna ghey is calling a ban on children is calling for a ban on children having access to social media after it was revealed her daughter's killer watched torture videos online. here is esther esther joy. >> oh, i'd like to see mobile phone companies take more responsibility. um it's so difficult for parents now to, um, to safeguard their children. the carry a mobile phone in their pocket 24 over seven and

taylor swift soars at the grammy awards. >> she's the first performer to win the prize for album of the year four times, putting her above frank sinatra, paul simon and stevie wonder. i moved every time i see gianna bri's mother. >> how how does she do it? she coping with the trial , the loss coping with the trial, the loss of her daughter, the brutal way her daughter died. died on her own, in pain and. but there she's out there campaigning and she's out there campaigning and she's right to campaign and making sure that her daughter's life wasn't lost in vain. >> she's trying bring some >> she's trying to bring some good a really awful , good out of a really awful, awful set of circumstances which , you know, as a mother, as a parent, there's a lot of you out there who can relate to that. i can certainly relate to that. it is difficult to know, even is so difficult to know, even with all the checks and with all of the checks and balances. the kids are always

one of aren't they? >> they ea.- w how to get >> yeah, they know how to get into dark net. >> yeah, they know how to get intcso dark net. >> yeah, they know how to get intcso difficult.et. >> so difficult. vaiews@gbnews.com is email vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address. first, though, your very with sam . very latest news with sam. >> bev and andrew thank you very much and good morning from the gb news newsroom. it'sjust much and good morning from the gb news newsroom. it's just gone 11:00 the latest on our top story this morning. the prime minister has now told stormont's leaders that the real work starts as he holds talks in starts now, as he holds talks in belfast after power sharing returned to northern ireland. earlier, he met with the new first minister, michelle o'neill, on a visit to stormont castle. she's the first republican to ever hold the role in the country, she rishi sunak insisted the £33 billion package offered by westminster is more than enough for the country's public services, but the newly formed executive has already written to the prime minister calling for urgent discussions on more long terme funding . earlier on gb news, funding. earlier on gb news, this morning, northern ireland secretary chris heaton harris praised the leaders of the new power sharing government.

>> think they demonstrated on >> i think they demonstrated on saturday that they are willing and able to work together in a very positive way, to do all the things that northern ireland needs. ireland needs. i mean, northern ireland hasn't government hasn't had devolved government for there's a really for two years. there's a really big list of things that need to be done. public services need reform and transformation. and part of the package we put in is over £3 billion to help that happen. in a manhunt is now into its fifth day into the suspected chemical attack. >> suspect abdul ezedi, £22,000 reward is being offered for information that could lead to his arrest. he's wanted in connection with an attack in south london last week that left a mother critically injured and her two daughters, aged three and eight, both hurt. her two daughters, aged three and eight, both hurt . detectives and eight, both hurt. detectives say his last known movements show that his aide left tower hill tube station in east london just after 9:30 on wednesday evening , and it comes as evening, and it comes as concerns grow about how he was allowed to stay in the uk after claiming to convert to christianity. the home

secretary, james cleverly, is expected to receive an initial report on that case later today . report on that case later today. meanwhile 40 other asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm barge in dorset have also reportedly converted to christian city, raising concerns that migrants are claiming to change their religion in order to stay in the uk. the telegraph newspaper today suggests that 1 in 7 of the 300 migrants on that barge are attending local churches in the area, fuelling concerns about the role that churches may have in asylum claims. the home secretary is said to be considering whether any legal changes are needed to ensure that claims of so—called conversion made by asylum seekers are properly scrutinised . well in the last hour or so, we've heard that a 39 year old suspect has been arrested on dangerous dog offences, but has now been released on conditional bail until the 5th of march. we understand it follows the death of 68 year old grandmother esther martin, who was mauled to

death in essex at the weekend . death in essex at the weekend. it's understood she'd been visiting her 11 year old grandson when that tragedy occurred , with neighbours occurred, with neighbours describing horrific screaming. the victim's daughter says that the dogs were xl bully rs, which were banned. as you'll remember at the start of this month. however detectives from essex police say that investigators are working with experts are still working with experts to confirm for certain the breed of those dogs . the prime of those dogs. the prime minister has defended uk airstrikes in yemen , saying the airstrikes in yemen, saying the houthis illegal campaign in the red sea is starting to have economic consequences. these here, for those watching on tv, are pictures overnight are pictures of more overnight strikes that were carried by strikes that were carried out by us forces aimed at disarming the rebels anti—ship cruise missiles in the region around the red sea the white house has also said they do plan to launch more strikes at iran backed groups in the middle east in coming days, but rebel leaders have said that the latest uk us airstrikes won't stop them from targeting more ships back here in the uk.

the most recent round of strikes by train drivers is set to end later today, with no settlement in sight in their long running dispute over pay , members at dispute over pay, members at chiltern great western railway and cross country are on strike today, leading to more wide spread cancellations across england . rail operators are england. rail operators are warning of extremely limited services and reduced timetable levels up until 7:00 this evening. the 20 month dispute over pay and conditions is still deadlocked, though, with no talks planned . and finally , talks planned. and finally, taylor swift has made music history , becoming the first history, becoming the first person to ever win the grammys album of the year four times. the singer songwriter won the prize for her album midnights after previous wins in 2010. in 2016 and again in 2021, the 66th grammys was a big night for women across the musical spectrum, with other female artists taking home the biggest four awards across the evening .

four awards across the evening. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com. forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> hey, good morning . it's 1108. >> hey, good morning. it's1108. thank you for joining >> hey, good morning. it's1108. thank you forjoining us. you've thank you for joining us. you've been getting in touch from your homes on email about the stockholm lawrence has said illegal immigrants should be treated as exactly that illegally entering the country. this enough reason to deport this is enough reason to deport them. >> maxine says we must assess immigrants. ask them why they came in the came across the channel in the first it's religion first place. it's not religion for and even it is, for sure, and even if it is, that should give them a free that should not give them a free pass. quite right sally. >> morning. says >> good morning. sally says migrants are complaining about accommodation in bibby stockholm while many of our people are while so many of our people are homeless including homeless, including army veterans, of you feel like that. >> yeah, and margot says religion come into religion should not come into asylum illegals asylum claims. these illegals are abusing system by are just abusing our system by converting religion and converting their religion and they're making fools of the uk. not for the time either. not for the first time either. >> bob seely was >> i thought bob seely was interesting. the for interesting. earlier, the mp for the of because

the isle of wight, because bob was need to have was saying we need to have a figure, need a figure in figure, we need a figure in mind. it's something that politicians have always shied away of people away from. the number of people that at home to that you would accept at home to come here legally, and the number accept give number you would accept to give refuge may need a safe place. >> when cameron was leader of the tory party, it was low , tens the tory party, it was low, tens of thousands. then i think rishi had a target of 230,000. well, blimey, it was three quarter of a million legal migration last yeah a million legal migration last year. and that's without the illegal. >> and darren has said about medical passports this story on the front page of the times. apparently the public all want a digital pass putting all your health records in one place. and darren said if potential darren said if a potential future employer starts asking for records and for your medical records and finds certain finds a history of certain illnesses, this go illnesses, i think this will go against majority of people. against the majority of people. well, is a potential well, that is a potential threat, of course, cowell says. i've had an app that records my health for quite a while now where i see all my medical where i can see all my medical details back to 1976. it's only available gp's hospitals available for gp's and hospitals to . and jane to see interesting. and jane says in france there is a medical card for person

medical card for each person called a carte vitale and the history is stored on it. and when inserted into a special device , the history is shown on device, the history is shown on the screen. works. device, the history is shown on the that's screen. works. device, the history is shown on the that's quite reen. works. device, the history is shown on the that's quite reen. woyou oh, that's quite clever. so you have own information on a have your own information on a on stick. maybe you on a computer stick. maybe you stick the computer stick it in the computer and then you take stick then you can take that stick away you. i just want away with you. i just want the individual be in control of individual to be in control of it. necessarily it. not necessarily the system. i the convenience issue , i can see the convenience issue, but convenience very careful but convenience be very careful when things are sold to you under auspices of under the auspices of convenience . convenience. >> now on. we talked to >> now moving on. we talked to you about 40 asylum you about those 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm converting to christianity to cheat the system and use their illegal means to stay in the uk. well the well tory mps have attacked the church after an church of england after an official advice document official asylum advice document highlighted clergy's role highlighted the clergy's role in facilitating . this facilitating applications. this was the method used by abdul ezedl was the method used by abdul ezedi, is suspected of ezedi, who is suspected of injuring several in the clapham chemical last week. he chemical attack last week. he was successful in his third asylum claim , the first two asylum claim, the first two being rejected after a priest vouched for his conversion to christianity . he well, been christianity. he well, he's been on the for five days now, on the run for five days now, but the got no

but why have the police got no idea where he is? >> let's speak to ray addison at new scotland yard. good morning. ray i mean, the suspicion being that they've offered this reward of £20,000 because perhaps they believe he is a still alive and b being harboured somewhere. is that a fair conclusion . to reach? >> well, sources are telling gb news that this £20,000 reward is a good indication that those running the investigation do believe that azadi is currently being harboured by friends , being harboured by friends, possibly connections or possibly even a network of people and they may not even know that he is a suspect in this case. they may be a group of people that don't typically tend to watch engush don't typically tend to watch english language. main stream british news, and therefore may not even have been aware here that he is a suspect in this attack. a good indication of that being obviously recently the met put out details of the appeal for azadi in farsi. of

course, the language spoken by many afghans. now, of course, the language spoken by many afghans . now, of course, many afghans. now, of course, that message certainly is getting through to many in the afghan community. we know that the afghan and central asian association, which is a charity which helps afghan nationals in the uk, has appealed for azadi to turn himself in. they've told him to go to the police station immediately. they said they must do the right thing and that this has gone on long enough. and of course the police will be hoping that the offer of this £20,000 reward, up to £20,000, will help to loosen lips, as it were , and to loosen lips, as it were, and encourage maybe somebody who's who's harbouring him or somebody who's harbouring him or somebody who knows his location or suspects that he's in the house next door to pick up the phone, dial 999. of course, stressing very clearly he's considered extremely dangerous. do not approach him yourself, but contact the police in that situation . um, of course we do situation. um, of course we do know that. they are also warning that if anyone does know where he is or is involved in

harbouring him, and they don't tell police they could face tell the police they could face arrest themselves . and that's of arrest themselves. and that's of course, as this manhunt gets into its fifth day. uh searching since wednesday, of course . and since wednesday, of course. and of course, azadi was last seen at tower hill underground station on wednesday night. and really , from that very first really, from that very first night when the initial police force, um, collaborate , was force, um, collaborate, was between the met police and northumbria police, which is believed to be where azadi had travelled up to, up from that morning. it's now involves the home office, uk border force , home office, uk border force, the uk visas and immigration , the uk visas and immigration, uh, the national crime agency and the british transport police. this certainly is now a very much a nationwide manhunt. >> right. it occurs to me, looking at him from those photographs he's sustained very serious injuries. he's almost certainly going to have to receive some form of medical assistance. so are they keeping an eye in some way with casualty units, hospitals , doctors units, hospitals, doctors surgeries ? oh absolutely.

surgeries? oh absolutely. >> they will they'll be they'll be all over that. there'll be calls going into police stations , uh, clinics. medics constantly . and they'll have obviously his details and his image. however i guess the fear must be that within some communities there will be medical practitioners , will be medical practitioners, as orthodox or otherwise , who as orthodox or otherwise, who may be providing that level of support. however the extent of the injuries will very much determine, one would presume, how long azadi feels he can stay on the run for before for, uh, seeking professional medical help. and of course , um, help. and of course, um, therefore handing himself effectively over to the police . okay. >> thank you. ray thank you very much. i mean, what ray is getting out there? let's be honest. this is a man who was seen in the tower hamlets area where there is more than of where there is more than 40% of the islamic. the community. there is islamic. are muslims . and he is perhaps are muslims. and he is perhaps being harboured by a community

that do not want him to be found, in which that community, there will be medics who can treat him anyway. >> it doesn't. >> i mean, it doesn't. >>— >> i mean, it doesn't. >> it's not saying the entire community, people community, but people within that community because tower hamlets gateway . tower hamlets is the gateway. tower bndge hamlets is the gateway. tower bridge gateway to tower bridge is the gateway to tower hamlets, and it is one of the london with highest london boroughs with the highest muslim populations. somebody knows where he and they have knows where he is and they have a duty to give him up. >> yeah. for those children. yeah who are injured and for the, the people who went to the aid of the mother and the children. there's a nine, 9 or 10 of them. >> awful accountable sustained injuries to. who went to injuries to. and who went to pick the not knowing pick up the children not knowing they this they were covered in this caustic substance. they were covered in this caustic �*haveance. they were covered in this caustic �*have also got eye >> and have also got eye injuries as themselves. injuries as well themselves. awful >> he's a very bad, evil man. i know he's dangerous, but he all it takes a phone call to the it takes is a phone call to the police get him off your police and get him off your hands somebody knows hands because somebody knows somebody where he is. somebody who knows where he is. >> let's talk >> well, let's talk now to former detective superintendent at shabnam at the met police shabnam chowdhury. shabnam chowdhury. good morning. shabnam meaning good morning. what do you think's happened to him ? you think's happened to him? what do you think? where is he?

this . this guy. >> he certainly >> well, he certainly disappeared into air last disappeared into thin air last seen, as you've just mentioned in, uh, tower hill. so near the tower hamlets area, which you're talking about, which does hold a huge bangladeshi community. but i would suggest it's highly, highly unlikely that anybody that doesn't know him or hasn't got connections with him would would harbour him. so the strong likelihood is that he is being harboured and being protected by the connections of people that he knows . we know that he's got he knows. we know that he's got connections in the leyton area. the police did two searches in leyton and they gathered significant information from that so he could be anywhere in the east london area. and i think the biggest thing here is for police, my experience for the police, in my experience , is when are on a manhunt , is when you are on a manhunt of this kind of magnitude , the of this kind of magnitude, the one thing that you heavily depend on, well, two things is, first of all, public, but first of all, the public, but secondly, mobile footprint or secondly, a mobile footprint or financial footprint , which means financial footprint, which means that would have to that he would have access to a mobile or bank cards or

mobile phone or bank cards or credit cards, or access to getting into the banks. and it doesn't appear that he's actually using any of those facilities, which would indicate that being protected by that he's being protected by somebody else, either using somebody else, either using somebody else's phone to move around or , um, to go to ground, around or, um, to go to ground, either in a dense area. uh, remember , he has come from remember, he has come from a different country. you don't know what kind of lifestyle he had , but they working had, but they will be working closely with office as closely with the home office as well to gather all that well in order to gather all that intelligence they need for intelligence that they need for them to be able to affect and arrest and to apprehend and speak him this horrific speak to him about this horrific incident . incident. >> whoever's doing this should be under no illusion. they're breaking and very breaking the law, and it's very serious. doing, serious. what they're doing, whether it's conspiracy to pervert of justice. pervert the course of justice. but if the police find somebody giving refuge and shelter, giving him refuge and shelter, they are going to be in serious trouble, which is why they should up pretty damn quick. >> pretty damn quick . it quick. >> pretty damn quick. it is assisting an offender. um, they are breaking the law . they will are breaking the law. they will be subject to , uh, criminal be subject to, uh, criminal investigation themselves . so

investigation themselves. so they're putting themselves at high risk for a man who's highly dangerous, who's highly , uh, dangerous, who's highly, uh, allegedly violent. remember? look the injuries look at the injuries that he sustained. know how sustained. we don't know how severe the injuries are of the victim , but know that victim, but we do know that she's critical now. stable. victim, but we do know that she's fact:ical now. stable. victim, but we do know that she's fact isal now. stable. victim, but we do know that she's fact is thatw. stable. victim, but we do know that she's fact is that he'sable. victim, but we do know that she's fact is that he's walking so the fact is that he's walking around with those injuries , um, around with those injuries, um, that very, very visible in that are very, very visible in the early stages of that , uh, the early stages of that, uh, manhunt. people wouldn't have known. but this is a national manhunt . and i think you manhunt. and i think you mentioned earlier on that, uh, the have gone other the police have gone to other communities communities communities, afghan communities where they've spoken in the farsi language . i think that's farsi language. i think that's fantastic, because the fact is, many people won't necessarily have those. the language of engush have those. the language of english and therefore those language barriers will be broken down police appealing to down by police appealing to those members of the community. if you see, if you know him, if you've got any connections or you've got any connections or you know of anybody that is you know of anybody that has is harbouring him, to us. harbouring him, then come to us. and biggest incentive for and the biggest incentive for anybody, you know , anybody, particularly, you know, when £20,000 huge amount of when £20,000 is a huge amount of money and i suspect whoever is harbouring him is probably having second thoughts now,

because that's a lot of money to having second thoughts now, becaifor that's a lot of money to having second thoughts now, becaifor them. a lot of money to having second thoughts now, becaifor them .a lot of money to earn for them. >> sabnam what's it like for the police officers when they're deaung police officers when they're dealing with a case like this ? s dealing with a case like this? s and when you realise that this is a man who, in 2018 was convicted of sexual assault and indecent exposure and still remains in this country. he is a police officer . how do you police officer. how do you square that? who do you hold responsible ? responsible? >> well, look, the government , >> well, look, the government, um, allow for the citizens and the processes to be in place. and whichever background and nationality you are from, if there's opportunity to there's an opportunity to exploit those systems and processes, going take processes, you're going to take those opportunities. and if you can through the net one way can get through the net one way or another, then you will do. the police will be focussed completely the investigation. completely on the investigation. i what was i was i know what i was like, i was like dog with a bone, and like a dog with a bone, and i suspect all those police suspect that all those police officers him officers are desperate for him to caught. won't be to be caught. they won't be thinking his national, his thinking about his national, his immigration or anything immigration status or anything like that. all they'll think is there's a dangerous offender at large, and it's my job and my duty protect public and

duty to protect the public and to this offender to to bring this offender to justice. >> get that, which a very >> i get that, which is a very professional response. and no doubt the police officers on a professional level are operating like that. but i mean, more kind of emotional psychologically of emotional and psychologically as a police officer, when you're deaung as a police officer, when you're dealing with a situation like this, when the children are victims, be an victims, there must be an element fryston nation that element of fryston nation that this was here and able to do this guy was here and able to do this guy was here and able to do this . this. >> well, the frustration will be the determination to actually catch him. and yes, i understand what you're saying because he's a registered offender. so a registered sex offender. so the police will looking at the police will be looking at whether um, signing the police will be looking at whewhether um, signing the police will be looking at whewhether he um, signing the police will be looking at whewhether he was n, signing the police will be looking at whewhether he was in signing the police will be looking at whewhether he was in contacting up, whether he was in contact with the police , how regularly with the police, how regularly he needed to be in contact with police. was he being monitored in any . way, shape or form? all in any. way, shape or form? all that information will come out in due course as and when he is subjected to being spoken to. but a police officer, there but as a police officer, there will frustrations. course, will be frustrations. of course, there will be, because they'll be convicted be thinking he was convicted previously look he previously and now look where he is. unfortunately, when it is. but unfortunately, when it comes to violence against women and nothing new.

and girls, this is nothing new. this is not uncommon. and i think that the reason that you've got such a huge national platform is because of the platform is not because of the fact women have been fact that women have been subjected to violence, but because the that his because of the fact that his immigration actually immigration status has actually given political . sort given him that political. sort of elevation that has kept it on everybody's radar. >> okay . all right. always >> okay. all right. always fascinating. thank you so much. former detective superintendent of the met police, shabnam chowdhury there. well up next, we're to a we're going to be speaking to a dog i'm afraid. dog trainer, i'm afraid. >> yet another. it's >> and yet another. it's a grandmother in essex. malta death by two suspected xl bullies. she looks absolutely lovely. 68. we're going to lovely. just 68. we're going to be asking that dog trainer is it the blame the owners or the dogs to blame the owners or both? north britain's newsroom on .

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was pushed through very quickly in order to keep people safe so that xl bullies would be their freedom of these dogs would be restricted. how how is it being implemented, though? and how how closely can it be monitored by the authority is to check that people are looking after these dogs, because clearly, in certain cases, the owners aren't doing anything about it ? doing anything about it? >> well, i think what's important to remember is that this announcement was first made in september. >> dog owners have had plenty >> so dog owners have had plenty of time in order to put the right in place to protect right steps in place to protect both their dogs and their family members and public. however members and the public. however for the dangerous dogs act does not impact at this sort of situation that takes place within the home. it it's designed , um, to protect the designed, um, to protect the pubucin designed, um, to protect the public in public spaces. therefore this backs up the evidence that the dangerous dogs act is not fit for purpose and are actually we need to look further, deeper into the

education, the licensing and also the enforcement of the consequence should you be in charge of a dangerous or out of control dog? so just run that by me again. >> so because this attack happenedin >> so because this attack happened in a home and it does say that a 39 year old man who the police said has a had a familial relationship with the victim, has been arrested on the suspicion of dangerous dogs offences . but you're thinking offences. but you're thinking that maybe a dangerous dog's offences don't apply if it's in a private home? >> the offence still, >> no. so the offence still, still is very relevant. however, the muzzling does not need to take place in the private home. so when a dog is under the dangerous dogs act in public, it must be muzzled, unleashed . must be muzzled, unleashed. however, as we have seen in this instance and with other incidents, the dogs do not need to be muzzled and not unleashed in the home. now we see yourself in the home. now we see yourself in this situation where very sadly a lady has lost her life . sadly a lady has lost her life. got it. >> so. >> so. >> so. >> so how do we get around that, john? because from what we know anyway about the owner of these

dogs, he's quoted in the sun as saying in the past, no one tells me what to with my dog. so he me what to do with my dog. so he wasn't interested in the registration scheme lead registration scheme or the lead or if dogs like or the rest. but if dogs like this are at home unleashed without a mask, um , potentially without a mask, um, potentially there's going to be more situations like we had with this lovely grandma who was savaged to death aged 68. i mean, how did we get around that? >> so there is an initiative that i've been trying to put together myself and a strongly believe that this will make a major impact on the issue surrounding dangerous dogs. firstly, we must educate our young. let's introduce education around dog safety and what to do. should you find yourself in a situation involving a dangerous or out of control dog introduced this to the school curriculum . secondly, we must curriculum. secondly, we must introduce strict licensing in order to own a dog, you must pass a test to ensure that you

have a clear understanding on the breed that you are bringing into your home, and you into your home, and that you understand to how fulfil that dog's needs , and also that you dog's needs, and also that you have the ability to commit to correct dog training. and lastly , we must enforce the legislation that's in place and treat a dog attack the same as any other lethal attack. so if you attack someone with a weapon, a knife, for example , weapon, a knife, for example, you'll be consequenced by losing your freedom. if you're in charge of a dangerous dog and it causes serious injury to a person, then it must be treated in the same way. and i think what's really important in this instance alone, as you said, this, this owner has said that no one will tell him what to do with his dogs. the dog was not placed on the exemption list . so placed on the exemption list. so this backs up again what we are saying that the problem is irresponsible and negligent. dog owners and dog breeders. >> um, john, you seen lots of dogsin >> um, john, you seen lots of dogs in your time and we had the dangerous dogs act all those years ago, which was aimed at rottwei lers.

>> are rottweilers. >> are these dogs really, in your view, the xl bullies, um, are they appropriate for domestic pets? well the xl bully have had hundreds of these through my training centre doors , and they are a fantastic companion. >> however, i do understand the size and power of the breed. should an incident take place, it could be catastrophic. as we've seen, it's very important to take note that we do have dangerous dogs. however, again , dangerous dogs. however, again, going back to the incident that's taken place these two dogs within that home have had puppies since the prime minister's announcement. so again, it goes back to irresponsible and negligent dog breeders and dog owners that are not putting these dogs into the right homes . and they are going right homes. and they are going to owners who do not have the correct education on to how raise these dogs and manage them safely. >> sure, john, just very briefly , we're running out of time. what people do if they what should people do if they are witnessing one of these attacks is it right attacks like this? is it right that will latch on to that these dogs will latch on to

the part? but the door will the body part? but the door will then lock? am i right ? then lock? am i right? >> no. the judge do not lock >> no. so the judge do not lock it. just the sheer power it. it's just the sheer power and strength of the jaw. it is very, very , it's very , very, um, very, very, it's very, very, um, important that . and i know it's important that. and i know it's easy for me to sit here and say this , but it's important that this, but it's important that you remain calm in this situation when you become animated, you will increase that dog's behaviour. what it's doing in that moment. as we are discussing the biting to get the dog off, you must restrict that dog's oxygen supply to its brain. by doing this and all dogs should be wearing a collar in public and would recommend in public and i would recommend that it in the that they also wear it in the home. you must pull that collar up and twist away from you up and twist it away from you until oxygen supply until that dog's oxygen supply stops. the dog will then open its mouth and can be removed safely from the bite. it is important that you do not hit. do not punch. do not pull at the dog. it will only increase the behaviour it is displaying in that moment. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> really interesting because. yeah, because i think sometimes

people, think the people, john, they think the instinct shovel, instinct is pick up a shovel, pick up a hammer strike the dog. >> yes. and we've seen that just last, uh, two weeks ago in scotland, we had another incident that had taken place and, and the dog had water thrown at it. it had been stabbed. it had been tased by the police. all while still remaining on the bite. it resulted in that dog having to be shot by police and for public safety . however, had we educated safety. however, had we educated the public and educated our police forces on the best way to remove these dogs and any for dog that matter, then we may well be in a very different position at the moment. all right. >> really interesting. thank you john. come on and talk to us again. thank you. you got a lot to teach people there. dog to teach people there. uh, dog trainer straight trainerjohn ellison, straight to who's to the news with sam, who's waiting patiently. good morning from the gb newsroom. >> it's just gone 11:30. the headunes >> it's just gone 11:30. the headlines this hour are. the prime minister has told

stormont's leaders the real work starts now . that's as he holds starts now. that's as he holds talks in belfast after power sharing returned to northern ireland. earlier, he met with the new first minister, michelle o'neill, on a visit to stormont castle. she is the first republican to ever hold the role. rishi sunak has insisted the £33 billion package offered by westminster is more than enough for the country's public services , but the newly formed services, but the newly formed executive has already written to the prime minister, calling for urgent discussions on more long terms, funding . police are terms, funding. police are intensifying their efforts to capture chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi with the manhunt now into its fifth day, a £20,000 reward is being offered for information that could lead to his arrest . information that could lead to his arrest. he's wanted in connection with an attack in south london that left a woman critically injured and her two daughters hurt as well . it comes daughters hurt as well. it comes as concerns grow about how he was allowed to stay in the uk after claiming to convert to christianity . meanwhile, 40

christianity. meanwhile, 40 other asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm barge in dorset have also reportedly converted to christianity, raising concerns that migrants are claiming to change their religion in order to stay in the uk. the telegraph newspaper is suggesting that 1 in 7 of the 300 migrants on that barge are attending local churches , attending local churches, fuelling concerns about the role that churches may have in asylum claims . the home secretary is claims. the home secretary is said to be considering whether any legal changes need to be made to ensure that claims of so—called conversion made by asylum seekers are properly scrutinised and a 39 year old suspect arrested for dangerous dog offences has been released on conditional bail until the 5th of march. it follows the death of 68 year old grandmother esther martin, who was mauled to death in essex at the weekend. it's understood she had been visiting her 11 year old grandson when that tragedy occurred with neighbours describing a horrific sukh screaming. they heard the

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financial report well up at noon i >> -- >> good afternoon britain, with tom and emily and they're here. what is delights do you have for us? >> my goodness. huge, huge. can we call them delights. >> can we call them delights? a lot of concerning stories, a lot to do with a lot to do to do with crime, a lot to do with security. did you know1 in with security. did you know 1 in 10 officers of the metropolitan police had carrying police who had been carrying firearms, no longer carry firearms? there's been a mass exodus of armed officers following this case with chris kaba, and whether or not the police are defending their own and they don't get paid any extra either for being a firearms officers, which is extraordinary. >> it's incredibly worrying . >> it's incredibly worrying. >> it's incredibly worrying. >> these police officers need to know that they have support to do this extremely important job. we're going to be speaking to a man who was an armed police officer, and he's going to tell us what some of the problems are. he seems to think some are. he seems to think that some police officers can be treated are. he seems to think that some poliycriminals can be treated are. he seems to think that some poliycriminals themselvested are. he seems to think that some poliycriminals themselves when like criminals themselves when they are there they are not, and they are there to us, we'll be to protect us, but we'll be having with him. having that debate with him. we're also going to be talking

about, the from about, of course, the news from the stockholm, the the bbc. stockholm, praise the lord, follows, of course, lord, which follows, of course, the manhunt that asylum the ongoing manhunt that asylum seeker who claimed he was christian. so 40 it is. >> yeah, that's1 in 7 of them. >> yeah, that's 1 in 7 of them. i think they found god. >> and it's remarkable. these are people, according to the telegraph, who decided to telegraph, who have decided to convert who convert to christianity, not who were saying were christians were saying they were christians before arrived the uk, before, who arrived in the uk, presumably members of other faiths or none . and suddenly, faiths or none. and suddenly, now that they're on board of the bibby stockholm, they decide to convert 40 of convert to christianity. 40 of them do. perhaps after talking with lawyers, with some immigration lawyers, we know that people have been campaign been campaign groups, have been sending to these sending welcoming packs to these individuals. have those individuals. what have those welcoming including? welcoming packs been including? what advice have these individuals been receiving? because seems upon because it seems that upon arriving the uk, they've arriving in the uk, they've magically seen the lights. perhaps after speaking with immigration lawyers, they are more convinced of the christian faith anything else. faith than anything else. >> the churches are >> and all the churches are being here. are they doing being naive here. are they doing this on purpose? perhaps with their congregations? this on purpose? perhaps with their more :ongregations?

this on purpose? perhaps with their more christians)ns? this on purpose? perhaps with their more christians on? they want more christians on board because all the flippin bishops in house of lords bishops in the house of lords are at every opportunity are voting at every opportunity to bring down rwanda to try to bring down the rwanda bill, their spiritual bill, led by their spiritual leader, boer , the leader, who's a boer, the archbishop canterbury. archbishop of canterbury. >> . >> so no surprise. >> so no surprise. >> well, be speaking to >> well, we'll be speaking to someone church of someone from the church of england little bit of england who has a little bit of a to that the a different view to that of the archbishop so archbishop of canterbury. so we'll has to say. >> let's all go to his or her church right. >> all and with >> all that and more with britain's newsroom. thank you emily. tom. for now, emily. thank you tom. for now, though, with britain's though, you are with britain's newsroom .

radio. >> good morning. we are stood by surprise. we are joined now in the studio by former labour adviser matthew laza and author and broadcaster emma woolf. in the took me by surprise . the studio took me by surprise. he nearly left to go to the loo. then you're lucky we're both still right now. still sat here. uh, right now. which figure ? uh, emma which political figure? uh, emma is would like to is saying that he would like to potentially one join the

potentially one day join the conservative gives. >> well, farage is keeping his opfions >> well, farage is keeping his options open . any any canny options open. any any canny politician can look any canny politician can look any canny politician keeps their options open. and nigel is nothing if not canny. >> this is supposed to be confusing our viewers. >> by the way, just to be clear, he's not been arrested for anything. pixelated anything. we've not pixelated his for security reasons. his face for security reasons. >> cancelled. his face for security reasons. >> everything cancelled. his face for security reasons. >> everything up cancelled. his face for security reasons. >> everything up cathe.led. his face for security reasons. >> everything up cathe air. his face for security reasons. >> everything up cathe air for >> everything up in the air for the election. why would he the next election. why would he commit anything right now? commit to anything right now? i mean, ahead mean, really, this is ahead of a launch tomorrow for popular conservatives . conservatives. >> yes, this will involve. >> yes, this will involve. >> nigel is going to be talking about. be there. jacob >> truss will be there. jacob rees—mogg. um, people like miriam been miriam cates, who's often been on programme. danny kruger, miriam cates, who's often been on quite)gramme. danny kruger, miriam cates, who's often been on quite aramme. danny kruger, miriam cates, who's often been on quite a fewne. danny kruger, miriam cates, who's often been on quite a few of. danny kruger, miriam cates, who's often been on quite a few of theme kruger, miriam cates, who's often been on quite a few of them to (ruger, miriam cates, who's often been on quite a few of them to have r, um, quite a few of them to have quite a christian view of politics. don't want the politics. they don't want the european court anything to do with . i've quite with asylum. i've got quite a lot of sympathy with some of them. lot of sympathy with some of the i'm big fan of miriam cates >> i'm a big fan of miriam cates . think she's a rising star, . i think she's a rising star, and be fascinating see and it'll be fascinating to see nigel, sort of, you know, talking to and i don't know talking to them and i don't know what it will say to richard tice, will be with at tice, who will be in with us at some point week. tice, who will be in with us at sontheoint week. tice, who will be in with us at sonthe leader week. tice, who will be in with us at sonthe leader wyeah, because, >> the leader of. yeah, because, of course, nigel his

of course, nigel is his best electoral . electoral asset. >> absolutely. is the >> absolutely. and is the honorary party. honorary chair of his party. chairman his party. be chairman of his party. it'll be chairman in reform. chairman of his party. it'll be cha no an in reform. chairman of his party. it'll be cha no chairs, eform. be chairs. >> forgive me. i'm so >> yes. forgive me. i'm so programmed. chairs. what? >> on. >> you sit on. >>— >> you sit on. >> i'm programmed. um it is >> i'm so programmed. um it is the the veils the dance of the seven veils from nigel. i think there from nigel. and i think there was a bit of a danger that he becomes politician cries becomes the politician who cries wolf. of, wolf. uh, that sort of, you know, he promising a good game. >> it's suspense. >> it's suspense. >> do you yeah all >> do you think? yeah it's all about to make about times. we need to make sure he doesn't. he doesn't sure that he doesn't. he doesn't hold for too long. i mean, he hold on for too long. i mean, he is, the only person is, after all, the only person who expressing an interest in who is expressing an interest in joining tory party at the joining the tory party at the moment. that moment. i shouldn't imagine that they're i they're being very harsh, but i think think he's justified think but i think he's justified in saying, well, let's see, because don't know because actually we don't know what know, what state the, you know, we don't don't what state don't we don't know what state the going to be the country is going to be in after the election. the country is going to be in after tidon't ction. the country is going to be in after tidon't know how the >> we don't know how the conservatives to conservatives are going to approach the election, really. they're at the they're all over the shop at the moment. what the moment. we don't know what the result going be. why would result is going to be. why would nigel commit himself? result is going to be. why would nigil commit himself? result is going to be. why would nigi mean,|it himself? result is going to be. why would nigi mean,|it him a lf? result is going to be. why would nigi mean,|it him a very good >> i mean, that's a very good point. mean, would that point. i mean, i would say that the problem that if nigel did the problem is that if nigel did try join, um, there be try and join, um, there would be quite the party quite a few in the tory party who would go the other way. so

could the the could this be the end of the tory party? is a reform takeover? >> yeah. you say that. but there would quite a lot of would also be quite a lot of tories who've up the tories. >> yeah. no, absolutely. >> yeah. no, absolutely. >> they don't stand for >> oh they don't stand for anything they don't anything anymore. they don't believe in anything. nigel farage words farage is very those words that may back. may come back. >> in the >> i heard those words in the corbyn my own party. you corbyn era in my own party. you know, let's know, people thought, let's go back to purity. let's go back to true, socialism. true, true socialism. >> of those, wasn't >> i was one of those, wasn't he? in the corbyn? >> didn't, didn't he >> he didn't, he didn't he didn't. he didn't. he didn't vote. he did forjeremy didn't. he didn't. he didn't vo be he did for jeremy didn't. he didn't. he didn't vo be theiid for jeremy didn't. he didn't. he didn't vo be the leader for jeremy didn't. he didn't. he didn't vo be the leader on for jeremy didn't. he didn't. he didn't vo be the leader on eithereremy didn't. he didn't. he didn't vo be the leader on either of my to be the leader on either of the leadership election. when dozens served country the leadership election. when dozensfrom served country the leadership election. when dozensfrom the rved country the leadership election. when dozensfrom the shadow country the leadership election. when dozensfrom the shadow cabinet, resign from the shadow cabinet, starmer one of them, was starmer wasn't one of them, was he? because needed his he? because he needed his legal expertise needed very expertise was needed on the very sensitive issue of brexit. he was into power was desperate to get into power and thought that corbyn might help mean, help him get there. i mean, look, i mean, it you know, look, i mean, it was you know, a very good other it very good friend. other look, it wasn't one who wasn't the only one who continued to serve my friend jonathan to jonathan ashworth continue to serve was an serve as well. it was an individual. was an individual choice. >> t- e shreds over starmer. >> other to shreds over starmer. >> other to shreds over starmer. >> it's not convincing, matthew. >> look, n matthew. >> look, i it hasn't >> well look, i mean i it hasn't been choice that i made. been the choice that i made. keir decided to because if keir decided to stay because if he he was handling he wanted it, he was handling brexit he thought an

brexit and he thought it was an important issue and held his important issue and he held his own certainly held his own and he certainly held his own and he certainly held his own against, own and he certainly held his own jeremy, against, own and he certainly held his own jeremy,just against, own and he certainly held his own jeremy, just reminding, own and he certainly held his own he 'emy, just reminding, own and he certainly held his own he wantedst reminding, own and he certainly held his own he wantedst second ng, people he wanted a second referendum. time people he wanted a second refe|hejum. time people he wanted a second refe|he can't time people he wanted a second refe|he can't shy time people he wanted a second refe|he can't shy away time people he wanted a second refe|he can't shy away from me people he wanted a second refe|he can't shy away from that. and he can't shy away from that. i nigel is committed to i do think nigel is committed to brexit i do think nigel is committed to brexi do nigel saying >> i do think nigel saying this is confusing for is a little confusing for potential. voters yes. potential. i agree voters yes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that's what. >> yeah. >> yeah,; what. >> yeah. >> yeah, wellt. >> yeah. >> yeah, well we will ask we will ask richard tice this week when in. when he comes in. >> indeed. right. still >> we will indeed. right. still to you both. don't to come. thank you both. don't go scrap go anywhere. is it time to scrap the fee

>> gb news news . >> gb news news. radio. >> gb news news. radio. >> all right. good evening. good evening, good evening. it's been a long day , to be honest. not a long day, to be honest. not that long. it's only monday morning. right. we're joined still in studio by former labour adviser laza author adviser matthew laza and author and wolf . and broadcaster emma wolf. right. what's bbc scandal? right. what's this bbc scandal? emma? what happened here? can i just be clear? >> this mary harper woman who has been an expert witness, this is not just about before we start it's start slamming her. it's not just us slamming just about us slamming the bbc. it's extensive. amount it's quite extensive. the amount of expert witnesses, cases that

she's been involved in. can i give you an example ? in one of give you an example? in one of the shocking cases, mary the most shocking cases, mary harper , she warned that harper defended, she warned that a somali man who was claiming asylum in this country, who had been convicted of a horrific sex attack in this country on a 17 year old girl she claimed that he couldn't be sent back to somalia because he would be at risk in somalia because of the way they crack down on sex crimes. he now and this was 16 months ago. he's now still in this country. the judge threw the case out. he should have been deported. in been deported. he's still in this living with this country living with relatives in a council flat. so this is what this woman is doing. the expert doing. this is the expert witness who has been involved. and was and one mp said she was flabbergasted at the amount of immigration cases this woman has been in. is she? been involved in. how is she? bbc has she bbc employee but how has she been to stick her nose been allowed to stick her nose in quite so many become an expert witness . as the africa expert witness. as the africa edhoni expert witness. as the africa editor. i was a bbc employee for over decade . over a decade. >> you have to sign endless pieces of paper. you have to do youn pieces of paper. you have to do

your, , conflict of interest your, um, conflict of interest form every year , and you get form every year, and you get endless reminders. if you don't do it and you have to seek, um, especially the rules that especially after the rules that were tightened i was were tightened while i was there, i can't remember there, because i can't remember which the um , which of the many, um, controversies . you have have controversies. you have to have all jobs. have to get all second jobs. you have to get things signed off. so that's why people like andrew decided people like andrew marr decided they wanted to leave because he didn't his didn't feel he could write his column, had column, because his column had to committee. so to be checked by a committee. so i understand rules i don't understand why the rules don't instance , don't apply in this instance, why somebody is moonlighting. so remember, we're paying for them out fee , um, out of the licence fee, um, for presumably africa presumably being bbc africa editor full time job. editor is a full time job. pretty big job. pretty big pretty big job. a pretty big job. huge number of job. you know, huge number of issues to report on from the african yet , um, african continent. and yet, um, mary's been popping off to give expert witnesses in court cases in his immigration tribunal clear. and just once , but clear. and not just once, but endlessly the flabbergasting endlessly by the flabbergasting amount immigration cases. amount of immigration cases. >> involved in. >> she's getting involved in. and so 17 year old girl who's and so a 17 year old girl who's attacked horrifically by a somalian 29 year somali somalian man, 29 year old somali man still living in this man who's still living in this country, it again , country, free to do it again, free to do it again. >> she's paid for >> but she's been paid for these. want to send these. she doesn't want to send him to somalia of

him back to somalia because of the he's committed the crimes he's committed in this would this country, and how he would be treated there. >> what about 17 old girl? >> what about the >> it's what about the impartiality >> it's what about the imfyeah,itymean, i just i >> yeah, i mean, ijust i literally don't understand how she is able to do this because presumably it's paid for of she is able to do this because presu1aid..y it's paid for of she is able to do this because presu1aid. so t's paid for of she is able to do this because presu1aid. so she's,i for of she is able to do this because presu1aid. so she's, um, of she is able to do this because presu1aid. so she's, um, she's: legal aid. so she's, um, she's double gets double dipping, so she gets i would mean, mean . my would i mean, i mean, i mean. my understanding is expert witness is always going to feed because she's a very experienced member of and payroll of bbc staff and on the payroll of a long time. >> yeah. i mean, it is. >>— >> yeah. i mean, it is. >> well, i would thought >> well, i would have thought that would be that an investigation would be happening because, happening as we speak because, i mean, down mean, experts she stepped down because editor. mean, experts she stepped down be

work of this nature has prior to approval. >> but that doesn't answer the question. has it been approved that she poses? i love that as a statement because it poses its own question that you would then put back to the press office. there's means. it there's nothing it means. it means that, you somebody means that, you know, somebody would it off, would have had to sign it off, but doesn't actually say but it doesn't actually say whether does it? >> right. >> right. >> she still on the >> and is she still on the payroll the bbc? >> and is she still on the payrolifar the bbc? >> and is she still on the payrolifar ase bbc? >> and is she still on the payrolifar as we 3c? >> and is she still on the payrolifar as we understand. >> as far as we understand. >> as far as we understand. >> mail on sunday wrote this >> the mail on sunday wrote this story, couldn't an story, said they couldn't get an answer to that. right. >> i mean, mean, answer to that. right. >>the i mean, mean, answer to that. right. >>the bbc i mean, mean, answer to that. right. >>the bbc certainlyan, mean, answer to that. right. >>the bbc certainly got mean, answer to that. right. >>the bbc certainly got more], so the bbc certainly got more questions to answer, hasn't it, on can't on. on this. it can't carry on. and are it. it be are others doing it. it could be just the tip of iceberg. just the tip of the iceberg. >> emma stockholm asylum >> emma bibby stockholm asylum seekers converting to christianity. seekers converting to ci so tianity. seekers converting to ciso far|ity. seekers converting to ciso far this morning. are it so far this morning. what are your thoughts? >> clear. need >> let's be clear. we need to crack this now. we crack down on this right now. we need stop this converting to need to stop this converting to christianity becoming christianity thing becoming a fast asylum. we've fast track to asylum. we've already got abdul shakur azadi on the run. yeah. oh, he was going to be caught within hours. guess what? 5 or 6 days later, he's still on the run . yeah. um. he's still on the run. yeah. um. and converted and no, he's converted to christianity, look. christianity, and i have. look. yeah. criticising yeah. none of us is criticising people hold, know, people who hold, you know, sincere religious but sincere religious faith, but this thing about converting to

christianity , i mean, then he christianity or, i mean, then he was described as a muslim was described as a good muslim by you by his neighbours. so, you know, questions you questions to be asked there. you can't friendly priest can't just get a friendly priest to vouch for you and that to become to asylum. >> matthew , we complain often. >> matthew, we complain often. there's not assimilation and integration british of integration into british way of life are . yes. life. maybe these guys are. yes. well, look , i mean, i think i well, look, i mean, i think i think nobody's objecting to people converting to christianity. >> what they're objecting to, uh, or or pursuing a religious, a religious faith. what they're objecting is getting a objecting to is them getting a note to then put note from the vicar to then put into tribunal system that into the tribunal system so that even if you've been turned down once note from the once or twice, the note from the vicar the may the vicar or the priest may be the one tips you the edge. one that tips you over the edge. >> it stinks. >> it stinks. >> it stinks. >> i think. >> i think. >> apparently people it's worse . >> apparently people it's worse. >> apparently people it's worse. >> be part of >> it shouldn't be part of it. it because it simply shouldn't because then people want. people can convert if they want. they can do whatever they want. but part of they can do whatever they want. but asylum part of they can do whatever they want. but asylum system. part of they can do whatever they want. butsuddenlyystem. part of they can do whatever they want. butsuddenly deciding part of they can do whatever they want. butsuddenly deciding they're: >> suddenly deciding they're gay because to because they can't go back to certain countries or gay are be persecuted. because persecuted. now it's because this isn't people who are arriving are not arriving arriving saying are not arriving on saying, on the shore saying, i'm being persecuted because christianity. >> they're saying that i'm converting christianity >> they're saying that i'm coriterting christianity >> they're saying that i'm corit seems christianity >> they're saying that i'm corit seems there'sianity >> they're saying that i'm corit seems there's anity >> they're saying that i'm corit seems there's a pretty so it seems there's a pretty clear which you clear rule, which is if you

arrive part of arrive and you make that part of your heard. your case, it can be heard. but if convert once if you suddenly convert once you're here, it's you're here, then it's a different part. >> these asylum seekers >> any of these asylum seekers are of are in any doubt. the church of england helpfully produced england has helpfully produced a document leaflet them document leaflet showing them how round it if they've how to get round it if they've had their asylum claim refused it, and there's a public safety issue , as we've seen the issue, as we've seen in the capcom case, you're asylum, capcom case, if you're asylum, if has been if your asylum claim has been turned down, you should be deported. >> this is problem. is >> this is the problem. this is the man after the reason why the man after priest we'll say priest should say, we'll say some you. some prayers for you. >> out, out. >> out, out. >> matthew laza emma woolf. >> matthew laza emma woolf. >> you thank you. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> back tomorrow. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> is back tomorrow. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> is really)ack tomorrow. that is it really are gb newsroom next. it's good newsroom up next. it's good afternoon with and afternoon britain with tom and emily. you tomorrow. afternoon britain with tom and emi|you you tomorrow. afternoon britain with tom and emi|you withu tomorrow. afternoon britain with tom and emi|you with the morrow. see you then. with the metropolitan police experiencing a 10% decline in armed officers, we're asking, is britain less safe? >> yes . and the manhunt >> yes. and the manhunt continues for abdul azad gb news security sources suggest that he could be being harboured by criminals because of this, £20,000 reward. that's being offered. we'll bring you all of that after the . weather.

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ireland and later into northern england. two the south. this england. two to the south. this staying pretty cloudy. few staying pretty cloudy. a few outbreaks drizzly rain, outbreaks of drizzly rain, perhaps, but places largely perhaps, but most places largely dry. temperatures, though not dropping . many places dropping much. many places staying in . double figures. staying in. double figures. however, across the north of scotland we could see temperatures dropping close to if not below freezing, so some icy watch out for icy patches to watch out for tomorrow and tomorrow morning otherwise. and as we through the as we go through tomorrow, the rain continues. its progress a little bit further southwards into more central parts of england and wales. further south, staying dry again. and here mild here temperatures on the mild side, so highs of around 13 or 14 celsius. but further north it is going to be chillier. some wintry showers to watch out for and some blustery winds by and also some blustery winds by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler oilers. >> sponsors of weather on .

good afternoon , britain. it's good afternoon, britain. it's 12:00 on monday the 5th of february on the run as the search for the chemical attacker abdul ezedi enters its fifth day. >> gb news security sources suggest the £20,000 reward offered by the police indicates zaidi may be being harboured by criminals, but with half his face missing, can the search really be that hard ? really be that hard? >> mass conversions. the scandal around phoney asylum seekers claiming to be christian just to cheat the system swells as it's revealed that 40 asylum seekers on board the bibby stockholm barge have suddenly decided to convert. what are the odds and labour's equality crusade ? labour's equality crusade? >> as the labour party pledges to bring more protected characteristics, including race under equal pay regulations, we ask is equal pay legislation or that it seems? and how would this actually work in practice