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gb news. >> good afternoon and happy monday! it's 3 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news, broadcasting live from the heart westminster across heart of westminster all across the uk. on today's show, we'll cover the gross abuse of our asylum system as 40 migrants on the bibby stockholm barge are converting to christianity in a bid to be given asylum . um, bid to be given asylum. um, we'll also have the latest on the manhunt for abdul ezedi as police offer a £20,000 reward. and we'll get reaction to the sad news that the dad's army actor, the legendary ian lavender, has died and rishi sunak been in northern ireland today. but next monday he'll be live on gb news >> hi, rishi. here as prime minister, i'm focussed on delivering on your priorities . delivering on your priorities. so i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum on monday the 12th of
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february, where i'll be taking questions from a live audience about the issues that really matter to you the economy, immigration and the nhs. see you there . there. >> great stuff. that is what gb news was always about. it's about holding the powerful to account. it's giving you a voice , speaking directly to the prime minister. no gotcha moments, no journalist that's making it all about them. this is about you. so that's what i want to know. all what would you ask the all week. what would you ask the prime i'll the prime minister? i'll choose the best questions i get and chuck him pot . email best questions i get and chuck him pot. email to me. him in the pot. email him to me. vaiews@gbnews.com. we've got loads of other stuff coming up. immigration incorporated is our asylum system being gamed by a shady multi—million pound industry ? i think it is. and industry? i think it is. and i'll show the evidence. that's all coming up. but first, it's time latest time for your latest news headunes time for your latest news headlines with francis .
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headlines with sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom . the headlines just newsroom. the headlines just after 3:00, rishi sunak says it's a historic day for northern ireland as devolved government returns . earlier, the prime returns. earlier, the prime minister met with leaders including sinn fein's michelle o'neill , who made history by o'neill, who made history by becoming the country's first republican first minister. speaking at a visit to a primary school in northern ireland earlier, rishi sunak shared how the £3.3 earlier, rishi sunak shared how the £33 billion funding package from westminster will benefit the country. i had very constructive meetings today with all political leaders in stormont and the new executive and the funding package that we put on the table before christmas, i think has been widely recognised as being significant generous. significant and generous. >> £3.3 billion a focus on long terme sustainable city, ensuring that northern ireland has the funding it needs, not forjust today to deal with the immediate challenges , but is on a path challenges, but is on a path towards to provide challenges, but is on a path towaiquality to provide challenges, but is on a path towaiquality public to provide challenges, but is on a path towaiquality public servicesie high quality public services into the future because that's what want . brighter future
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what we want. brighter future for the children that been for the children that i've been spending time this spending time with at this school here this morning, speaking at a press conference in stormont earlier, irish premier leo varadkar pledged that he would do everything he can to help the northern ireland executive to be successful. >> a lot of everyday issues that need attention here in northern ireland, and i know they're going hard on that going to work very hard on that and we're keen to get north—south going north—south cooperation going again . have a meeting of the again. have a meeting of the nsmc the couple of weeks nsmc in the next couple of weeks and on some of that and focus on some of that practical that works practical cooperation that works well for everyone on the island. so i'm very keen to work with the new executive and looking forward to doing that . forward to doing that. >> in other news, rishi sunak has said today that he has reformed the asylum system in every way that he can. that's amid questions over how sex offender abdul ezedi was able to stay in the uk. he's wanted in connection with a chemical attack that took place in south london, leaving a woman critically injured and her two daughters also hurt. a £20,000 reward is being offered for
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information that could lead to his arrest. detectives say he was last seen at tower hill tube station in east london, just after a half past nine on wednesday evening. last week. police have also warned that those helping him will face arrest , and they're calling for arrest, and they're calling for the public's help to find him. earlier, ray earlier, our reporter ray addison gave more information earlier, our reporter ray ad�*whoi gave more information earlier, our reporter ray ad�*who could more information earlier, our reporter ray ad�*who could be more information earlier, our reporter ray ad�*who could be protecting�*nation earlier, our reporter ray ad�*who could be protecting aside| on who could be protecting aside from the police. >> it's possible that he's being looked after by people who don't watch mainstream british news, an indication of that being the appeal that was put out in farsl appeal that was put out in farsi, which, of course, is the language spoken by language widely spoken by afghans. the message has afghans. however the message has got out to the afghan community. certainly in some capacity. the afghanistan and central asian association, which is a charity that helps afghan nationals in the uk, has appealed for azadi to turn himself in. they've told him to go to the police station immediately. they're saying he must do the right thing and that this , this simply has gone on this, this simply has gone on long enough and asylum seeker
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has been sentenced today to 18 months in jail after a woman fell overboard and drowned while he was piloting a boat with over 70 other migrants on board. >> the 22 year old continued the journey across the english channel until the boat was intercepted by border force . he intercepted by border force. he told officers that he'd left sudanin told officers that he'd left sudan in 2021, passing through multiple other countries on his way to the french coast. despite initially denying any charges, he did later plead guilty to facilitating illegal immigration. the national crime agency said today that sentencing shows their commitment to holding people accountable for putting lives at risk . a 39 year old suspect risk. a 39 year old suspect arrested for dangerous dog offences has been released today on conditional bail until the 5th of march. it follows the death of 68 year old grandmother esther martin, who was mauled to death in essex on saturday. it's understood she'd been visiting her 11 year old grandson when that tragedy took place, with neighbours describing horrific screaming . they heard the
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screaming. they heard the victim's daughter says the dogs were xl bullies , which were were xl bullies, which were banned at the start of this month. however, detectives from essex police say investigations are ongoing to confirm the are still ongoing to confirm the breed of those dogs . british breed of those dogs. british actor ian lavender, famous for his role in dad's army as private pike , has died today at private pike, has died today at the age of 77. lamb who joined the age of 77. lamb who joined the show at the age of 22, held the show at the age of 22, held the role for a decade. he was the role for a decade. he was the last surviving star of dad's army. he's also remembered for his role as derek harkinson in the bbc soap eastenders. his role as derek harkinson in the bbc soap eastenders . and the bbc soap eastenders. and finally, wrap up warm because a whole day of snow could be on the way with a yellow weather warning issued for large parts of and wales. later this of england and wales. later this week, office says the week, the met office says the winter weather could lead to disruption with cuts disruption, with power cuts and travel possible. the travel delays possible. the warnings from 3 am. on warnings run from 3 am. on thursday through to the same time on friday morning, and stretches from cumbria and the
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scottish border all the way down to cambridgeshire and the midlands. in england , all of midlands. in england, all of northern and central wales is also included that weather also included in that weather warning . and for the latest warning. and for the latest stories you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. thank you sam. >> now we start with the abuse of our asylum system by migrants who are claiming to be christian. just to stay in this country for 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm are converting to christianity , and converting to christianity, and that's almost 1 converting to christianity, and that's almost1 in converting to christianity, and that's almost 1 in 7 of the migrants in the barge. now, that's some coincidence . and that's some coincidence. and this comes, of course, after abdul ezedi, who's the main suspect in last week's chemical attack case, was also given asylum on the basis that he was asylum on the basis that he was a christian and therefore could not return, be returned safely to afghanistan . well, join me to afghanistan. well, join me now to discuss. this is the
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reverend doctor bernard randall. welcome to the show. reverend randall . um, suella braverman randall. um, suella braverman priti patel , um, randall. um, suella braverman priti patel, um, adam randall. um, suella braverman priti patel , um, adam ant at the priti patel, um, adam ant at the weekend , echoed by many in the weekend, echoed by many in the conservative party and that is this appears to be a gross abuse of our system. and no more is this a coincidence than it actually feels like an orchestrated attempt to abuse the system, game, the system, and for asylum seekers to stay in britain? >> yes , i totally understand >> yes, i totally understand that concern . um, obviously, as that concern. um, obviously, as a as a member of the church of england, as a christian, i would say christianity is wonderfully attractive . attractive. >> and in attractive. >>and in sense, attractive. >> and in sense, it's no >> and so in a sense, it's no surprise that people who come to this country and people this country and meet people from who are offering from churches who are offering them food, shelter, clothing , them food, shelter, clothing, whatever will see whatever it might be, will see the attraction of that and might consider converting. but yes consider converting. um, but yes , it's vitally important that the system is not abused by people . all i would say that people. all i would say that clergy who are approached by asylum seekers , it's not really asylum seekers, it's not really their to job determine whether
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they're genuine asylum seekers or not. they should only be taking, you know, is this person genuinely interested in the christian ? is there christian faith? is there someone who wanting to someone who is wanting to convert from whatever faith or noneit convert from whatever faith or none it might have been ? that's none it might have been? that's why they're there for not to police the asylum process. >> as such . >> as such. >> as such. >> but whether they're policing or not, what about if they're allowing? they're facilitating a loophole, a well known loophole ? loophole, a well known loophole? um, because there are lots and lots of evidence of the dangers of being deported. if you're suddenly a christian being sent back to afghanistan. um or somalia or lots of other countries like that, then the story goes , then you can claim story goes, then you can claim i will be in danger, and therefore there's a clear incentive to go down that route if you wish to avoid deportees , isn't there? it is. >> and i think clergy should be aware of that and should be somewhat alert. >> but it would be a very great shame if clergy were also becoming very cynical about people approaching them to say , people approaching them to say, i am interested in christianity . i am interested in christianity. i am interested in christianity. i want to know what it's all
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about. i want to be part of a church community. so it's finding that balance between wanting to be welcoming to absolutely anybody, regardless of background. and also, yes , of background. and also, yes, not wanting the system to be gained and gained, perhaps asking a few extra questions would be appropriate . but it's would be appropriate. but it's very difficult for individuals , very difficult for individuals, clergy to make those difference. the distance distinctions , um, the distance distinctions, um, and ultimately , if someone is and ultimately, if someone is using that to game the asylum system, there are asylum system professionals with the home office whose job it is to determine that rather than clergy . um, determine that rather than clergy. um, but i determine that rather than clergy . um, but i accept that clergy. um, but i accept that clergy. um, but i accept that clergy should be alert . clergy should be alert. >> do you think that they're being conned? do you think they're being played this, um , they're being played this, um, saviour complex? albie bit, um, you know, well—meaning , the you know, well—meaning, the desire to save somebody's soul, to give them a better life, to listen to their story, and a compassionate and caring manner. that's the very ethos of christianity. but we've seen ,
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christianity. but we've seen, have we not, reverend randall, that some of these cases can have terrible consequences? we've seen suicide bombers in liverpool who converted to christianity and now abdul ezedi converted to christianity. is this misplaced faith in the good of human nature placed in britain's at risk ? britain's at risk? >> but there is always that dangen >> but there is always that danger. but equally there must be vast numbers of people who come to this country who don't cause that kind of risk. come to this country who don't cause that kind of risk . and so cause that kind of risk. and so for clergy to try and weed out those very small numbers who are dangerous, um , is putting an dangerous, um, is putting an unfair burden on them. yes. the system can be gamed and that's going to be true regardless of how careful people are. if clergy are ultra careful. nevertheless, some people will find the right words to say the right things to do to beat the system . um, and as queen system. um, and as queen elizabeth the first said, i think when creating the settlement that created the church of england in its current form , she said, we shouldn't try form, she said, we shouldn't try to windows into men's
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to make windows into men's hearts. there is a limit to how to make windows into men's heartsclergy�* is a limit to how to make windows into men's heartsclergy�* is a linyeso how to make windows into men's heartsclergy�* is a linyes be )w much clergy can do. yes be careful. yes. ask questions . um, careful. yes. ask questions. um, and certainly if they're being called to go to asylum tribunals and say, i support this person , and say, i support this person, they need to be jolly sure about what they're saying and that this person has genuinely converted because they're giving sworn evidence. i would think. um, but as i say, there's a limit to what individual clergy can do. they should do that. but we can't ask them to do more than that. it's part of the issue here. >> reverend randall, let's be honest that this there's an orthodoxy now within the church of england that flows down from the justin welby, the the top from justin welby, the refugees welcome mindset seems now to be the dictator norm. and if you don't agree with that, then you get in trouble. i mean, look at yourself. if you dared to the lgbtq stance of to challenge the lgbtq stance of the church and he got you in hot water, well , it did, which water, well, it did, which obviously that's a somewhat different topic. >> is probably >> but yes, there is probably pressure for clergy . they see pressure for clergy. they see the way the church is going. the church of england is very
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conscious about, um , alleged conscious about, um, alleged systemic racism in the church. and so there probably is pressure on clergy to say yes more readily than perhaps they might otherwise do . that's might otherwise do. that's something to be looked at. what certainly mustn't happen , and certainly mustn't happen, and would be absolutely wrong is if clergy, whether the senior leadership putting pressure or the clergy doing things as in the clergy doing things as in the parishes are doing it because they're hoping to score, as it were, party political points about asylum and refugee and immigration. um, this, this cannot sacrament of the church cannot sacrament of the church cannot be party political. and if they become that, that certainly is absolutely wrong in all circumstances . all circumstances. >> okay. thanks forjoining us on the show, reverend doctor bernard randall, thanks for your forthright opinion. well, i'm joined now by the former labour special adviser paul richards . special adviser paul richards. welcome to the show, paul . um, welcome to the show, paul. um, let's start with this topic . let's start with this topic. there's been a lot of talk about the asylum system in the uk.
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almost being gamed, being manipulated , and the church manipulated, and the church being drawn into that process. what are your thoughts on that ? what are your thoughts on that? >> well, i think the asylum system is broken and i think what these announcements around people converge , these mass people converge, these mass conversions to christianity show that people are desperate to stay in this country and they're being told this is a route to do so . 50. >> so. >> um, and that's the route they're going down. now, i'm not saying aren't possibly saying there aren't possibly individual cases of conversion and genuine , uh, you know, and genuine, uh, you know, people who really are christian, of course, but for it to happen on the scale that you're reporting, that's rather suggest something else. >> i don't think it's mass conversion. i think it's, uh, an attempt for people stay here. attempt for people to stay here. and so, you know, if you're constructing public policy and so, you know, if you're construthis, public policy and so, you know, if you're construthis, pubhave>licy and so, you know, if you're construthis, pubhave>lichave around this, you'd have to have far strict checks on how far closer strict checks on how people are being recruited to the church. >> and what they really believe, and whether it's genuine or not. otherwise, the system won't work i >> speaking lots of common sense
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there, paul. and if we're on the verge of a labour government, keir starmer getting into power, if you advising the government in waiting now, what would your advice be? a lot of people are saying that this needs to be the subject of a full scale political . every political inquiry. every organisation, every charity , organisation, every charity, every ngo, every organisation involved in this, when terrible events happen, such as abdul azadi or the liverpool suicide bomber who had a miraculous awakening and became christians with very, very real consequences. i don't think it's enough to say, oh well, there's only 1 or 2 incidents. we don't enough to say, oh well, there's only 1that�* incidents. we don't enough to say, oh well, there's only 1that we :idents. we don't enough to say, oh well, there's only 1that we don't;. we don't enough to say, oh well, there's only 1that we don't knowdon't enough to say, oh well, there's only 1that we don't know who is know that we don't know who is among us. we know why among us. we don't know why they're decisions. they're making these decisions. do party do you think the labour party should this matter of should make this the matter of a full inquiry? well i think you should judge every public policy where public money is being spent. >> civil servants are engaged. you know, on what's happening in reality . so there does need to reality. so there does need to be a test here. but, you know, why are they doing this? who's recruiting them? to what if recruiting them? to what end? if it then that's one
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thing. >> but i just think , you know, >> but i just think, you know, from a purely dispassionate point of view, just looking at the numbers , it rather suggests the numbers, it rather suggests something else is up . and, uh, something else is up. and, uh, you ministers need to get you know, ministers need to get a grip on that. then they need you know, ministers need to get a 1be�* on that. then they need you know, ministers need to get a 1be wellhat. then they need you know, ministers need to get a 1be well advised,1 they need you know, ministers need to get a 1be well advised, andy need you know, ministers need to get a 1be well advised, and theyed to be well advised, and they need ground need research on the ground to find going on. um, find out what's going on. um, i don't if a full public don't know if a full public inquiry way to do inquiry is the right way to do that. i it needs to be that. i think it needs to be something quicker, something a bit quicker, frankly. but does like frankly. but it does seem like a scam . scam. >> i mean, i would a lot of people listening would agree with you, but, um, some of the warning there that with you, but, um, some of the warrprobably there that with you, but, um, some of the warrprobably tihappent with you, but, um, some of the warrprobably tihappen under this probably won't happen under a labour government in a future labour government in the form of labour's new racial equality been equality act, which has been trumpeted and when you dig trumpeted today and when you dig into the detail of that, paul, there's something which i think is a kind of indicator of where things may be going. and it's this party have this the labour party have stated they won't repeal stated that they won't repeal the migrant cause of the child migrant cause of asylum seekers , and what that is asylum seekers, and what that is for those who aren't . whereas if for those who aren't. whereas if you claim to be under 18 and it's proven that you manipulated the system to get into the country , you be deported. the system to get into the courlabour»u be deported. the system to get into the courlabour party be deported. the system to get into the courlabour party plan eported. the system to get into the courlabour party plan to>rted. the system to get into the courlabour party plan to get!. the system to get into the courlabour party plan to get rid
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the labour party plan to get rid of so anybody who's under of that. so anybody who's under 18 can claim anything and the labour party wouldn't, wouldn't deport them. surely if that's a bellwether of where we're going, we're in choppy waters . we're in choppy waters. >> well, i think a labour government is not going to be in the business of, sending the business of, uh, sending children back into war zones if they are here. >> and they we would, you know, protect people who are vulnerable. the ideas that vulnerable. but the ideas that are floated today are go are being floated today are go far, far wider than merely asylum. i mean , all things asylum. i mean, all things around, equal pay, for example , around, equal pay, for example, people um, and rooting out some of that racism, which i'm afraid does still exist in our society and our workplaces , is and holds and our workplaces, is and holds people , holds british people people, holds british people back. people, holds british people back . um, people, holds british people back. um, those people, holds british people back . um, those attitudes need back. um, those attitudes need to be challenged too . so the to be challenged too. so the what's being floated today is a much, plan , what's being floated today is a much, plan , uh, what's being floated today is a much, plan , uh, to much, much bigger plan, uh, to make britain, uh , a place where make britain, uh, a place where everyone can thrive. and that's what's wrong with that. >> okay, paul, i'd like to just push you on that, because we have act 1970, in push you on that, because we have brought act 1970, in push you on that, because we have brought in act 1970, in push you on that, because we have brought in by act 1970, in push you on that, because we have brought in by the! 1970, in push you on that, because we have brought in by the labour n fact, brought in by the labour party and that is a legally
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binding piece of legislation which still applies on the topic of pay inequality. now when you dig into the detail, um, chinese and indian people get paid more than white people on average in britain would the labour party, i don't know what. as for their wages to be decreased or for some to be given wages to be decreased or for so other to be given wages to be decreased or for so other or to be given wages to be decreased or for so other or is:o be given wages to be decreased or for so other or is it be given wages to be decreased or for so other or is it only ven to other people, or is it only when white people more that when white people earn more that there's issue ? there's an issue? >> the pay act, of >> well, the equal pay act, of course, to address the course, was to address the inequality pay with women, inequality of pay with women, uh, unfortunately does uh, which unfortunately does still exist. but the point is that they're making today the labour is that if there labour party is that if there are inequalities where are these inequalities where people ethnic minorities people from ethnic minorities are deliberately being paid less , uh, because of their ethnicity, that's illegal or ability. well it's something since 1970. no, that's equal pay for women. and this is a different inequality that needs to be addressed. it's only going out for consultation. you know, if it turns up there isn't a problem, then there's no need for a law. but i think is for a law. but i think there is a therefore they're a problem. and therefore they're right to be thinking about the kinds of laws address kinds of laws that could address
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it. because do is it. because what we do know is if it the market if you leave it to the market and to unscrupulous bosses , they and to unscrupulous bosses, they will try and away with will try and get away with whatever away whatever they can get away with. >> trying to make the >> i'm just trying to make the point, paul, that, um, the better educated the better educated people in the united kingdom now tend be united kingdom now tend to be from chinese and indian backgrounds, and they tend to earn more typically. it's the same united states of same in the united states of america. problem with that. america. no problem with that. that's free market. that's that's the free market. that's the what saying is, the quality. what i'm saying is, if looking at if we're looking at looking at this inequality dodi all over the place, will that also be an issue? or is it only when black people than white people earn less than white people that the labour party have it's have umbrage with it? it's a well, yeah, about well, yeah, it's about where people working in sweatshops people are working in sweatshops or long hours, you know, or doing long hours, you know, beyond the hours they're being paid for or being doing three jobs instead of one. >> and, you absolutely >> and, you know, absolutely getting . it's about getting nowhere. it's about addressing and addressing inequality and poverty. it's not about saying holding people back. in fact, the it's allowing holding people back. in fact, the to it's allowing holding people back. in fact, the to getit's allowing holding people back. in fact, the to get ahead)wing holding people back. in fact, the to get ahead with| holding people back. in fact, the to get ahead with a fair people to get ahead with a fair wage for a fair day's pay if they're being held by a boss backed by a boss because of their colour or race or ethnicity, then in, uh, the law
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should step in. i mean, that's what laws do. they they fix broken markets and that's what labour will do if that's it. >> all right. cheers. thank you for joining us. paul richards, forjoining us. paul richards, former labour party special adviser . always a former labour party special adviser. always a pleasure. thank you. now we'll have lots more on this big story throughout the show of course. and of coverage throughout the show of course. and website of coverage throughout the show of course. and website gbnews.com. e throughout the show of course. and website gbnews.com. and on our website gbnews.com. and you've to make it the you've helped to make it the fastest national news fastest growing national news website in the country. so thank you . now it's time for you very much. now it's time for our brand new great british giveaway and your chance win giveaway and your chance to win 18 in cold, hard cash. and 18 grand in cold, hard cash. and here's all the details that you need for a chance to make that yours. >> this is your chance to win £18,000 cash in our very latest great british giveaway cash to spend on anything you like . spend on anything you like. >> that's like having an extra £1,500 in your bank account each month for a whole year. what would you use that for? it could go towards your mortgage or rent, buy monthly treats or just send some of those day to day financial stresses. packing for your chance to win £18,000 in
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>> now, later this hour we'll pay >> now, later this hour we'll pay tribute to the wonderful actor in lavender from dad's army who has sadly passed away. but before that, rishi sunak has beenin but before that, rishi sunak has been in northern ireland today celebrating the start of a new era for country . mr celebrating the start of a new era for country. mr sunak era for the country. mr sunak was accompanied by northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris as he visited stormont for the first time since power sharing was restored was restored last week. the region's new first minister, michelle o'neill , has made michelle o'neill, has made history by becoming the first republican to hold the post since power sharing began. well, our political editor, christopher hope, is at stormont. chris, welcome to the show , chris. welcome to the show show, chris. welcome to the show . so an historic day . . so an historic day. >> yes, certainly. i'm here in the stormont parliament building, which tomorrow meets the first time in a couple of years , just a few hundred yards years, just a few hundred yards away from me stormont castle. away from me in stormont castle. the meeting the executive is now meeting with fein first with a with a sinn fein first minister. michelle o'neill shook
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hands but no waves with rishi sunak first thing this morning . sunak first thing this morning. but a big moment here for northern ireland with with we've got the democracy finally restored after two years of having this parliament. i mean, not . and that has meant not sitting. and that has meant that officials have been spending money and gone spending money and hasn't gone so people so well here. for many people living here, a ten year wait for hip operation , five to hip operation, five years to see a l hip operation, five years to see a , all sorts of a consultant, all sorts of issues. we only know about those issues. we only know about those issues in the, in the, in in gb. but in northern ireland they have seen so much worse . and i have seen so much worse. and i think having mlas, people who have seen so much worse. and i thin respond mlas, people who have seen so much worse. and i thin respond to las, people who have seen so much worse. and i thin respond to localeople who have seen so much worse. and i thin respond to local concernso can respond to local concerns should make sure that money is spent better and more efficiently, helped by £3.3 billion from the uk government over five years, they're currently carving up who gets what job in this new this new power sharing agreement. but so interesting , i think, to have interesting, i think, to have the first ever sinn fein, first minister, but also aside from that, martin, we're looking forward to next week, which is we're doing a new people's panel we're doing a new people's panel, people's forum with the prime minister and that's
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fascinating. we're going to allow a chance for us journalists to move to one side and allow the pm to face questions directly from our viewers or listeners, and anything can happen. as you know, they have the best questions . we do our best, but questions. we do our best, but we can't top the questions we can't often top the questions from and listeners . from our viewers and listeners. and what's next and that's what's happening next week . week. >> e’- el.- ell-- >> superb. and on the issue of northern ireland, chris, a lot of people saying today in the more brexit end of the spectrum, at least , that rishi is being at least, that rishi is being played like an irish fiddle by sinn . um, committing to the sinn fein. um, committing to the border down the irish sea and of course with sinn fein in the at the helm , a lot of talk now the helm, a lot of talk now turns towards this inevitable sense that there may be a referendum on irish unification , referendum on irish unification, even with all the complexities of what that will mean for northern ireland being dragged into the eu . into the back, into the eu. >> well, that's certainly not not the position taken by chris heaton—harris , who's the heaton—harris, who's the northern ireland secretary of state i interviewed him last night for gb news. he made very
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clear that they are working through various through these various difficulties. he said. for example, can be taken example, pot plants can be taken across the irish sea from great britain to northern ireland, with soil on them from great britain and that's problem with soil on them from great britain aof that's problem with soil on them from great britain aof course problem with soil on them from great britain aof course , problem with soil on them from great britain aof course , the oblem with soil on them from great britain aof course , the european because of course, the european union has the jurisdiction to an extent over northern ireland, as does the uk . and that is why it does the uk. and that is why it is complicated. now i asked, um, leo varadkar, who's the irish first minister, the taoiseach, i should say, um, just a few. an hours ago, where i'm standing here, will you see a vote on on uniting northern, northern, southern ireland within ten years? he didn't deny it. he just said that's not for today. and indeed the pm, rishi sunak , and indeed the pm, rishi sunak, was asked the same thing when he met a journalist earlier. that certainly feeling if certainly is a feeling that if you see sinn fein forming you if you see sinn fein forming a government, winning the election in ireland later election in, in ireland later this year or early next year, you could have the same party running northern, north and south southern ireland . and that south southern ireland. and that leads about whether leads to questions about whether we might see a degree of unification . but will that mean
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unification. but will that mean a with unionists ? that a deal with the unionists? that is a long way to go before you get yeah, is a long way to go before you getyeah, but is a long way to go before you get yeah, but a is a long way to go before you getyeah, but a lot of people >> yeah, but a lot of people will be saying, though, chris, this specifically the cat this is specifically the cat flap that brexit left open to brussels to sinn fein, to a vote for reunification. but aside from that, chris, this people's forum rishi sunak gb news a fantastic event coming up. you spend a lot of time around rishi and you often tell me he's very different off camera . he's much different off camera. he's much more relaxed. he's a people's person in a way. he doesn't come across like necessarily in across like that necessarily in his speeches. what are you expecting from rishi when he gets up close and personal with voters unique situation ? voters in this unique situation? in >> yeah, that kind of that kind of rishi sunak that i do see in my privileged role here as gb news political editor isn't often seen by the people, often he's in this kind of adversarial position of being grilled by journalists trying to find some gapsin journalists trying to find some gaps in his armoury. so he pushes back hard. i pushes back quite hard. but i think is that side to him think there is that side to him which seen much.
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which isn't seen much. i have seen some of it in private when i've been with him on trips around the world, but also i think see it a bit when he think we do see it a bit when he does his pm connect events and most recently accrington most recently in accrington stanley football club. so it's going to be unmoderated going to be an unmoderated q&a with pm. eight on nine with the pm. eight on nine monday monday next week. do sign up if you want to. if you're watching or listening, make note of this email address. a website address gb news. com forward slash pm. we're using survation to ensure that the audience we have for this event will be chosen from across the uk . our chosen from across the uk. our colleague stephen dixon , the gb colleague stephen dixon, the gb news breakfast presenter at weekends he'll be in charge of making sure it all runs smoothly, but the questions ? we smoothly, but the questions? we don't know what they are, anything can happen. it'll be must watch tv at 8 pm. next monday, but crucially, if you're watching this , listening to this watching this, listening to this want to be part of it? sign up now. you will not regret it. okay >> superb, chris. so the people's prime minister's question time live on gb news.
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it's a magnificent event. thank you very much . it's a magnificent event. thank you very much. i it's a magnificent event. thank you very much . i just it's a magnificent event. thank you very much. i just i it's a magnificent event. thank you very much . i just i just you very much. i just i just think this is the great thing. this is why the channel exists in the first place to hold the powerful to account. now let's cross quickly to the house of commons, where the defence secretary shapps, is secretary, grant shapps, is giving about the giving a statement about the third wave of airstrikes on houthi rebels in yemen , houthi rebels in yemen, conducted around 40 attacks against commercial and military vessels. >> despite repeated warnings, their attacks have continued . their attacks have continued. >> mr speaker, the uk has always stood up for the rules based international order and since the houthis began their illegal attacks , we've been at the attacks, we've been at the forefront of the international response . response. >> whether helping defend vessels in the vicinity. as one of the first members to join the us led task force, operation prosperity guardian, or whether working in tandem with the us and other allies to tackle the houthis on always and always in
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response to specific threats and always in line with international law and the principle of self—defence . principle of self—defence. >> on two previous occasions we've required been required to use force, and these attacks have had a significant effect on degrading houthi capability . degrading houthi capability. >> but the houthis intent to continue disrupting the red sea has not been fully diminished . has not been fully diminished. >> two weeks ago, the prime minister came to the house to make it clear, as i did the following day, that unless houthis desisted from their inflammatory actions, we would not hesitate to act again . not hesitate to act again. >> yet, instead of ceasing their activities, they have chosen to persist , activities, they have chosen to persist, accompanying their increasingly incendiary rhetoric with further missiles and drones targeted at shipping and at the royal navy, most recently, they set the vessel marlene luanda on fire and targeted hms diamond
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directly in the red sea mr speaken directly in the red sea mr speaker, such behaviour is simply intolerable . simply intolerable. >> it breaks international law. >> it breaks international law. >> it's already having consequences which are damaging to the economies of the world, and insurance premiums have rocketed tenfold since the start of december. the number of cargo ships transiting bab al—mandab has fallen, and the cost of containers has rocketed , all of containers has rocketed, all of which could send food inflation spiralling and will certainly hit those countries with the greatest poverty levels . the greatest poverty levels. the hardest . mr speaker, the houthis hardest. mr speaker, the houthis believe they are the region's robin hood. but as i discussed with the yemeni defence minister just yesterday, when i saw him in saudi, the only people they are robbing are innocent yemenis whose food and aid arrives via the red sea and that is why at the red sea and that is why at the weekend, the prime minister and i again authorised the use
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of force in strict accordance with international law and in self defence. on saturday, royal air force typhoon, supported by two voyager tankers, joined the us forces to conduct further precision strikes against houthi locations in yemen. the typhoon has employed paveway for precision guided munitions again , three military facilities hitting 11 separate targets . hitting 11 separate targets. targets which were identified after a very careful analysis at those three locations and they were approved by me at aslef, due west of sana'a, on the rest on the red sea coast, our aircraft targeted a ground control station inside a defensive position on the station has been used to control houthi attacks and reconnaissance drones launched from further inland and operating over the red sea and
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hitting international shipping or targeted at a second drone ground control station was confirmed to be al—manar on the same stretch of the coastline . same stretch of the coastline. as with al khalife , the station as with al khalife, the station provided direct control of reconnaissance and attack drones targeting shipping in the red sea. its position on the coast, allowing it to maintain line of sight data links used to target innocent shipping with accuracy . innocent shipping with accuracy. our typhoons also attacked a significant number of targets at bannau. significant number of targets at bannau . the house may recall bannau. the house may recall that an initial group of facilities at bannau were successfully struck by the raf on the night of january the 11th. this year. since then, a further set of buildings at the site were positively confirmed as involved in the houthi operations and were as a result targeted on this occasion . as is targeted on this occasion. as is standard practice for operations
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. by the raf, the strikes were very carefully planned to ensure minimal risk of civilian casualties . air dropping casualties. air dropping munitions at night further reduces such risks and we do not believe that there were any civilian casualties. on saturday night . mr speaker, military night. mr speaker, military action can only be one element in our efforts to confront these global challenges , and military global challenges, and military action is indeed the very last resort . it would be far better resort. it would be far better if the houthis simply stopped their attacks. so our approach is founded on four pillars. first, we are increasing diplomatic engagement . the diplomatic engagement. the foreign secretary travelled to the region , met his iranian the region, met his iranian counterpart last month . to make counterpart last month. to make clear they must cease supplying the houthis with the weapons and the houthis with the weapons and the intelligence, and use their influence to stop these houthi attacks . the uk and that is the attacks. the uk and that is the grant shapps. >> speaking currently in the
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house of commons. on that fresh wave of attacks on houthi targets in the red sea. there's much more on that story on our website , gb news. com now police website, gb news. com now police are offering £20,000 to anyone who can help them find chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi . i'm attack suspect abdul ezedi. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .
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martin daubney on gb news. later this hour we'll pay tribute to the dad's army actor ian lavender, the legend who has sadly died at the age of 77. of course, private pike, now a labour government, would introduce a race equality act that would give equal pay rights to black asian and minority ethnic staff . if sir keir ethnic staff. if sir keir starmer's party will give bame employees the same rights as women, well, let's get the new views now of the former political secretary to tony blair, john mcternan. john, welcome to the show. seems like a great idea on paper. i mean, equal pay , who could argue with equal pay, who could argue with that? but we've had that since 1970, aren't we? and the labour party the equal pay party introduced the equal pay act . then what's the act then. then what's the difference around ? difference this time around? >> it's extending the >> it's about extending the rights that women have in the workforce to black and ethnic minority workers. so it's just extending that we know how hard it is in the modern workforce . it is in the modern workforce. if you're not in a trade union,
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how can you get equal pay? how can you actually know what equal pay can you actually know what equal pay is ? you know, we've had to pay is? you know, we've had to have a process of, uh, gender pay have a process of, uh, gender pay audits to start to expose some of these things, and we're going to need to have the same approach to ensure that black, asian ethnic asian and minority ethnic workers aren't discriminated against. i think it's quite right . it's 21st century, after all. >> okay, john, um, a similar for equal pay, equal pay plight by birmingham city council recently basically bankrupted the entire council. and that's the labour rank council. is that a taste of what this would do to the entire country ? country? >> no, it's the muppets who ran birmingham city council that bankrupted it. they knew for decades that they were fighting, uh, a fair claim by trade unionists to get equal pay for women to refuse to accept that women's work is of equal value, to say , uh, bin men, um, was to say, uh, bin men, um, was just wrong and they should have planned for it. they should manage their finances properly. uh, as a consequence , uh, you uh, as a consequence, uh, you know, women are getting their
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right pay. i think it would be wrong say that we can't wrong to say that we can't possibly that because . possibly pay that because. because we've not thought about it. we're not planned it. it. we're not planned for it. we've accounts. we've mismanaged the accounts. we've mismanaged the accounts. we have to have equal pay. it's we've mismanaged the accounts. wprinciple have equal pay. it's we've mismanaged the accounts. wprinciple h'ourequal pay. it's we've mismanaged the accounts. wprinciple h'our country. y. it's a principle in our country. equality. i agree. >> one of the things >> so, john, one of the things about the category about the, the, the category bame is it's quite all encompassing. but you drill encompassing. but when you drill into there's some into it, there's some interesting detail and that is quite often the typical salary. the average salary for, for example, chinese and indian people is actually higher than the average white briton. guess what would the labour party do about that demand? they get paid less or give some of their salary to white people. salary back to white people. >> equalling up? >> what about equalling up? we're not about we're not about levelling down. um, the point is that should people should that people should people should for work in the same for the same work in the same workplace , get fair and equal workplace, get fair and equal pay- workplace, get fair and equal pay. we've seen, as in the birmingham case, that you've cited, that women doing work of similar, uh, complexity of similar, uh, complexity of similar demands were being paid less than the men were. blue
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collar men were . and that is collar men were. and that is because sort of built in, uh, assumptions , patriarchal assumptions, patriarchal assumptions, patriarchal assumptions about what what pay is worth in this case, we're saying there's a power now to find out what's being paid and if what you find out is you're being more than other being paid more than other people, don't need to people, then you don't need to worry about, uh, about equal pay . but there are many, uh, groups in the workers . we know this in the workers. we know this because unions have worked hard with with particular work groups of workers. we know they need this power . of workers. we know they need this power. and that's that's all isn't it's about all about, isn't it? it's about being proper , uh, government being a proper, uh, government supporting workers . making work supporting workers. making work pay- supporting workers. making work pay. that's what andrew ryan has been saying around the country . been saying around the country. it was one the big successful it was one of the big successful labour in labour slogans last year in the rutherglen by—election making work you're to hear work pay. you're going to hear it and again it again and again and again from labour. >> but is it just about , um, >> but is it just about, um, affording extra powers to ethnic minorities? a lot of people are saying that's what the labour party is all about. and for party is all about. and if, for example, a white working example, you're a white working class less than class person earning less than anybody else, will they also qualify or do you only qualify
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based fact you're a based around the fact you're a part some suppressed minority part of some suppressed minority interest ? what what's the interest group? what what's the detail? this is this this is about race equality . about race equality. >> uh, so it is about paying workers , um, for all workers. workers, um, for all workers. labour's uh, charter workers rights is new rights for workers, new deal for workers is going to give trade unions greater access to workplaces to unionise , to organise. and so, unionise, to organise. and so, yeah, if you're if you are, uh, a working class, uh, worker of, of whatever race or gender you are on average 10% better off, uh, if you're represented by a union than otherwise joining a unions. the smartest thing you can ever do to increase your pay . uh, and under labour, there'll be more access by trade unions to workforces . there'll be fewer to workforces. there'll be fewer obstacles from from employers to stop people balancing, and there'll be greater organising .
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there'll be greater organising. i think that that would be a good thing. we've seen the benefit to uber drivers of the gmb. them in the gmb. uh unionising. them in the way that tng offered union membership to, to black cab drivers the and so i drivers in the past. and so i think, you can see think, you know, you can see a different arena for different a different arena for workers labour workers rights with a labour government, workers rights with a labour govthisrent, workers rights with a labour gov this year. get this year. >> okay. you much >> okay. thank you very much for joining us. john mcternan, former to former political secretary to tony blair. what do you think out is this a guise to out there? is this a guise to get more people to join unions and get more union dues, and to get more union dues, which of course get paid to the labour party? let me know your opinions . labour party? let me know your opinions. now, just a few minutes. we'll cross live to liverpool, senior liverpool, where senior politicians map politicians are trying to map out north out a future for the north without hs2. but first in a new gb news series innovation britain. we're looking at the successes of british manufacturing around the country over the years , the engineering over the years, the engineering and manufacturing environments have often been perceived to
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have often been perceived to have been dirty and polluted, but so much has changed in recent years. >> james, why is that ? >> james, why is that? >> james, why is that? >> i think there was generally an acceptance that that was the atmosphere people were atmosphere that people were having nothing could >> there was nothing they could do it. people would come do about it. people would come in say, well, in to work and just say, well, that's lot in life. in to work and just say, well, tha however lot in life. in to work and just say, well, tha however , lot in life. in to work and just say, well, tha however , if lot in life. in to work and just say, well, tha however , if you in life. in to work and just say, well, tha however , if you think. in to work and just say, well, tha however , if you think about >> however, if you think about it, this is this is not really acceptable. >> and certainly today's >> and certainly in today's environment, >> and certainly in today's environment , taking office, environment, taking office, you wouldn't be expecting work wouldn't be expecting to work in an office full of smoke, mist and dust . and dust. >> people would be walking out and thinking, well, and people are thinking, well, hold on. >> shouldn't elm—m hold on. >> same shouldn't do hold on. >> same inhouldn't do hold on. >> same in a�*uldn't m hold on. >> same in a�*uldn manufacturing environment. >> and people want a cleaner place to work. and how are you managing to do this? >> well, mist, >> well, filter mist, manufacture products manufacture a range of products that extract dust and that extract oil, mist, dust and fume at source industrial fume at source from industrial settings around the world we settings around the world and we make right here in the make them right here in the midlands . and you've had your midlands. and you've had your record yes we have. record year. yes we have. >> we've continued to grow our exports countries exports to over 60 countries worldwide, one of our worldwide, but one of our biggest growth areas has actually uk. actually been the uk. >> one the reasons for that >> one of the reasons for that is a lot the is that we sell a lot to the machine who machine tool sector, who are fitting our equipment their fitting our equipment to their
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machines a complete machines and selling a complete turnkey includes turnkey package, which includes clean air to their customers. >> meanwhile, the uk government's health and safety executive have focussed more on clean air the workshop . clean air in the workshop. >> but most of all, people are just and wouldn't just wanting and why wouldn't you work in cleaner you want to work in a cleaner environment . environment. >> magnificent britain doing magnificently despite brexit now, four months after the northern leg of hs2 was scrapped, senior politicians have been discussing the future of transport in the north of england and a north—west of england and a north—west of england reporter. sophie reaper is in liverpool . england reporter. sophie reaper is in liverpool. sophie, england reporter. sophie reaper is in liverpool . sophie, welcome is in liverpool. sophie, welcome to the show once again. so the great and the good are planning a revolution of transport in the north. but been a big setback. hs2 got cancelled. also latest . hs2 got cancelled. also latest. >> it did indeed. hs2 got cancelled. also latest. >> it did indeed . now some of >> it did indeed. now some of our viewers may well be wondering why this is always such a topic of conversation and indeed why transport in the nonh indeed why transport in the
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north is deemed to need its own convention. ian. well, i did a little bit of googling earlier if i were to get the train down from here in liverpool , where from here in liverpool, where the conference's down to our studio in london today, would studio in london today, it would . be £72.70 and a return ticket if i wanted to get home again would be over £100. now i also looked up some flights from here in liverpool and i could to fly poland, switzerland, the netherlands, france or spain on a return flight, all for cheaper than that. so there really is some kind of issue here. now, today we've been hearing from various experts, including several of the mayors from here in the north. just one of those is andy burnham, mayor of greater manchester. he, of course , has been very vocal course, has been very vocal about the issues surrounding transport in the north of england, especially trains and hs2. so here's what he had to tell me a little bit earlier on. >> it's a full decade now since george started what we george osborne started what we now call levelling up by promising a northern powerhouse rail . rail
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promising a northern powerhouse rail. rail services have gone backwards that time. they are backwards in that time. they are worse than they were back worse today than they were back then. we should have a modern railway system that's of an equivalent standard to london and the south east, and until we get it , i'm and the south east, and until we get it, i'm afraid i'm going to be like a stuck record on this, on this theme. >> but of course, the actual transport isn't the only problem . today. they've discussed things like diverting 80, how we can make transport greener. the economy here in the north of england. now these are all incredibly complex issues. but one thing they've all agreed on is that as it stands, transport in the north is nowhere near as good as it should be compared to what it is in the capital. >> sophie reaper. thanks for that. i would totally agree. it's not just the north though. trains all over the shop all over slow over over the country are slow over price if they even exist at all. you try getting from nottingham to lincoln can or to lincoln you can more or less jog to lincoln you can more or less jog faster . to lincoln you can more or less jog faster. now. we to lincoln you can more or less jog faster . now. we now have jog faster. now. we now have some news and the dad's army some sad news and the dad's army actor, legend of ian actor, the legend of ian lavender has sadly passed away.
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he was 77. lavender played, of course , private pike in the course, private pike in the great comedy, and he was involved in the show's most famous scene . famous scene. >> i am making notes , captain, >> i am making notes, captain, and your name will go on the list and when we win the war, you will be brought to account . you will be brought to account. >> write what you like. >> write what you like. >> you're not going to win this war. >> oh yes we are. oh, no, you're not. oh yes we are . not. oh yes we are. >> while you work. >> whistle while you work. hitler is a twerp . hitler is a twerp. >> he's half barmy. >> he's half barmy. >> so's his army whistle while your name will also go on the list. >> what is it? >> what is it? >> don't tell him. pike. pike . >> don't tell him. pike. pike. >> don't tell him. pike. pike. >> oh, it's a sad day, but marvellous. marvellous memories. and they discuss ian lavender. his legacy. is a comedian. died and spencer dyer, welcome to the show. i mean, that for me is just a comfort blanket in tv format. a legendary show that makes us feel great to be british. but but ian lavender passing away . sad moment
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passing away. sad moment nevertheless . nevertheless. >> oh, it is a sad moment. but he was such an incredible and accomplished actor . um, he accomplished actor. um, he hadnt accomplished actor. um, he hadn't graduated from the bristol old vic theatre school. >> so, you know, one of the top prestigious drama schools that we've got in this country. >> and he went straight there in 1967, he was on stage almost immediately , uh, he got his immediately, uh, he got his first television show , and dad's first television show, and dad's army was actually his second. and television show that he got in 1968, just one year after he graduated . and ever since then, graduated. and ever since then, he's appeared in television. he's appeared in film. he's done a lot of stage work. he was on the west end , um, in london. uh, the west end, um, in london. uh, he was playing monsieur. the west end, um, in london. uh, he was playing monsieur . oh, he was playing monsieur. oh, that man's name. um, monsieur howard in, uh, monsignor howard in, uh, the. what about the nuns sister act, the musical? he was a very accomplished and multi—skilled actor, and he seemed to be quite a lovely bloke as well. and he said about
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dad's army, he said something that he found really good about it is that you could watch it without baggage. he said that, you know, we were making it in 1968, so we were making it after everything had happened . but you everything had happened. but you could come to that show and just watch your family and watch it with your family and enjoy it. and didn't need to enjoy it. and you didn't need to know the actual goings know all of the actual goings on.and know all of the actual goings on. and that was what he felt made it quite an iconic sinner kyrees that continued through the ages and really makes us laugh even now . laugh even now. >> and diane also, not only has hasian >> and diane also, not only has has ian lavender passed away, but also that sense of humour, that sense of being proud to be british, yet not not afraid to mock our ridiculous insecurities about it . about it. >> definitely . i mean, it was >> definitely. i mean, it was such a british program, dad's army, wasn't it? i mean, you know, you have all of these marvellous pensioners and they're going to defend us from, uh, hitler's armies coming in. it was absolutely fabulous. and he is an actor really. he demonstrated such skill, um, in
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the way that he could play hapless , you know, because being hapless, you know, because being able to play dumb and hapless and the idiot boy, you know, being able to sort of communicate all of that on television. so incredible. really. um and do you know what he didn't have, um, his edinburgh fringe debut, which is something that us comics, we all sort of go to the edinburgh fringe. he didn't have his debut there until 2013, which is incredible. i mean, you've got this amazing actor who has appeared in multiple programs , appeared in multiple programs, um, and then he goes to the edinburgh fringe and he was in, uh, a shawshank redemption. uh play, you know, so versatile while. >> okay. diane spencer , we have >> okay. diane spencer, we have to leave it there. but that's. i know what i'm doing tonight. i'll be straight on to uk gold to blast of that to have a blast of that fantastic theme now fantastic theme song. now there's today of there's fresh evidence today of abuse the asylum system. 40 abuse of the asylum system. 40 migrants on the bibby stockholm converting to christianity. i'll be leander right after
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gb news. >> good afternoon. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news, broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. in the show today , we'll cover in the show today, we'll cover the abuse of our asylum system as 40 migrants on the bibby stockholm magically convert to christianity and a bid to be given asylum in up to 2000 migrants are due to be housed at raf scampton and will cross live to the historic air base. of course, the site of the historic dambusters. after reports of violence there over the weekend end. and we'll have the latest on the manhunt for abdul ezedi as police offer a £20,000 reward and an rishi sunak in northern ireland today. and an rishi sunak in northern ireland today . but next monday ireland today. but next monday he'll be live on gb news >> hi rishi here as prime minister, i'm focussed on delivering on your priorities.
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so i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum on monday the 12th of february, where i'll be taking questions from a live audience about the issues that really matter to you. the economy , matter to you. the economy, immigration, the nhs. see you there . there. >> now that sweet viewers, is what gb news is all about. holding the prime minister to account. no poncy journalists, no gotcha moments . you, the no gotcha moments. you, the people putting your questions direct to the prime minister in real time, recorded live. i think that takes a lot of guts. i think that's progressive. i think it's a thing. let me think it's a great thing. let me know. rishi know. what would you ask? rishi sunak the prime minister, send your questions to me . your questions to me. vaiews@gbnews.uk . com and i'll vaiews@gbnews.uk. com and i'll put the best in the pot, and hopefully you can ask them to . hopefully you can ask them to. rishi, i've been joined in hopefully you can ask them to. risistudio been joined in hopefully you can ask them to. risistudio by been joined in hopefully you can ask them to. risistudio by lee an joined in hopefully you can ask them to. risistudio by lee anderson.n hopefully you can ask them to. risistudio by lee anderson. he's the studio by lee anderson. he's in rambunctious mood over all the studio by lee anderson. he's in asylum1ctious mood over all the studio by lee anderson. he's in asylum abuses�*nood over all the studio by lee anderson. he's in asylum abuses going)ver all the studio by lee anderson. he's in asylum abuses going on. all the studio by lee anderson. he's in asylum abuses going on. it's the asylum abuses going on. it's going to be a cracking hour coming but before all of
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coming up, but before all of that your news that time for your latest news headunes that time for your latest news headlines middlehurst headlines with polly middlehurst . martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. >> well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that northern ireland's first minister, michelle o'neill , says minister, michelle o'neill, says more money is needed for public services in northern ireland. it comes after meeting with rishi sunak to discuss stormont's finances , where power sharing finances, where power sharing has returned . however, speaking has returned. however, speaking at visit to a primary school at a visit to a primary school in northern ireland, the prime minister said the new £3.3 billion funding deal is already significant and generous . significant and generous. >> i had very constructive meetings today with all political leaders in stormont and the new executive and the funding package that we put on the table before christmas, i think has been widely recognised as being significant and generous. £3.3 billion a focus on long time sustainability, ensuring that northern ireland has the funding it needs , not has the funding it needs, not just for today to deal with the immediate challenges, but is on
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just for today to deal with the inpath iate challenges, but is on just for today to deal with the inpath towards.lenges, but is on just for today to deal with the inpath towards beings, but is on just for today to deal with the inpath towards being able: is on just for today to deal with the inpath towards being able to on a path towards being able to provide high quality public services into the future. because that's what we want a brighter for the children brighter future for the children that spending time that i've been spending time with at this here this with at this school here this morning . morning. >> rishi sunak well, speaking at a news conference in stormont, the irish premier, leo varadkar , the irish premier, leo varadkar, pledged to do everything he could the northern could to help the northern ireland executive successful . ireland executive be successful. >> a lot of everyday issues that need attention here in . northern need attention here in. northern ireland, and i know they're going to work very hard on that and we're keen get and we're keen to get north—south cooperation going again. the next couple weeks nsmc in the next couple of weeks and of that and focus on some of that practical that works practical cooperation that works well for everyone on the island. so i'm very keen to work with the new executive , and i'm the new executive, and i'm looking forward to doing that. >> leo varadkar now , the defence >> leo varadkar now, the defence secretary, says the uk will, if necessary, not hesitate to respond once again against the houthis in self—defence . the houthis in self—defence. the prime minister earlier said their illegal campaign in the red sea is having economic
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consequences worldwide . the consequences worldwide. the white house says the us plan to launch more air strikes at iranian backed groups in the middle east is going to happen in the coming days, but rebel leaders say the latest uk us air strikes won't stop them targeting ships. grant shapps updated the commons. on the escalation in the red sea. the speaker the military action can only be one element in our efforts to confront these global challenges and military action isindeed challenges and military action is indeed the very last resort. >> it would be far better if the houthis simply stopped their attacks . attacks. >> grant shapps now staff at a food store in newcastle, where abdul yazidi visited, say their horrified he's connected to a chemical attack in south london. speaking to the telegraph newspaper, the workers described azadi as a good muslim. a 20 zero zero £0 reward is meanwhile being offered for any information that could lead to his arrest after last week's
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attack injured a mother and hurt her two young children, police have warned that those helping him will face arrest and have called for the public's help. meanwhile . 40 asylum seekers on meanwhile. 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm home barge have reportedly conveyed to christianity, raising concerns that migrants are claiming to change their religion in order to stay here in the uk. it's reported 1 in 7 of the 300 migrants on board the vessel currently parked up in dorset, are attending local churches, fuelling concerns about the role churches have in asylum claims. the transport minister, huw merriman , says the government is merriman, says the government is making good progress to reduce the number of illegal migrants crossing into the country . this crossing into the country. this action that's on the new laws that we need, and there's also action on reducing the amount of cases that are outstanding and we've a huge number that we've had a huge number that have been reduced in the last yeah >> we've also reduced the number of illegal migrants crossing by
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36% in a year as well. so this progress, but it actually tells us that we need to continue to clamp down both using powers from parliament and also using the resources we have to get those numbers reduced . those numbers reduced. >> well , all those numbers reduced. >> well, all an asylum seeker has been sentenced to 18 months in jail after a woman fell overboard and drowned while he was piloting a boat with over 70 migrants on board. the 22 year old continued his journey across the english channel until the boat was intercepted by border force officials. he told officers he'd left sudan in 2021 and made his way to france , and made his way to france, despite initially denying any charges . he later pleaded guilty charges. he later pleaded guilty to facilitating illegal migration in the national crime agency . says today's sentencing agency. says today's sentencing shows they're commitment to holding accountable for holding people accountable for putting lives at risk . now putting lives at risk. now weather news a whole day of snow could be on the way with a yellow weather warning issued for large parts of england and
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wales for later this week. the met office saying the winter weather could lead to travel disruption with power cuts and delays for trains. the warning runs from 3 am. on thursday at the same time on friday morning, and stretches from cumbria and the scottish border town right down to cambridgeshire and the midlands. in england , all of midlands. in england, all of northern and central wales is also included in the warning . also included in the warning. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now or if you're listening on radio, go to gb news .com/ alerts back now to gb news .com/ alerts back now to . martin. to. martin. >> thank you polly. now let's get stuck into this next hour. and we start, of course, with the our asylum system the abuse of our asylum system by are claiming , the abuse of our asylum system by are claiming, as by migrants who are claiming, as if by to be christian, if by magic, to be christian, just to stay the country . 40 just to stay in the country. 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm are converting to christianity, and that's almost
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1 in 7 of the migrants on the barge. this comes after abdul ezedl barge. this comes after abdul ezedi, who's the main suspect, of course, in last week's chemical attack case, was given asylum on the basis that he was asylum on the basis that he was a christian and therefore could not be returned to afghanistan. can you see a pattern emerging anywhere? well i'm joined now in the studio by the conservative mp for ashfield, lee anderson . mp for ashfield, lee anderson. lee, this is something you've been very outspoken on over the weekend . it would seem to a lot weekend. it would seem to a lot of people a flagrant abuse of the system. this back door to guaranteed right to remain by magically converting to christianity. what's your take? >> look, martin, it's , uh. >> look, martin, it's, uh. >> look, martin, it's, uh. >> it's been no secret. i've been quite vocal on this over the 3 to 4 years. the past 3 to 4 years. the asylum system is being abused. i've always said this. even when that place is over, there sort of disagreed with me. i think more and more, uh , more and more, uh, parliamentarians are actually seeing it for what it is now. it is being abused. look, when is being abused. and look, when somebody can go to church and, and, and hoodwink the local
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vicar into thinking that they're a all of a sudden a christian, uh, just to stay in this country. that's absolutely shocking. and, you know, one of the ten commandments is thou shah the ten commandments is thou shalt would shalt not lie. and it would appear that the church is complicit and encourage allowing these young men, these illegal migrants, to turn up at the congregation on a sunday and pretend that they're christians again , abusing our asylum again, abusing our asylum system. but there is a silver cloud here, martin, to this , to cloud here, martin, to this, to this story, because got this story, because i've got good news, news for these born again christians that if are again christians that if you are again christians that if you are a christian, a genuine christian, then rwanda is, i think 95, 96% a christian country . so they're waiting for country. so they're waiting for you with open arms. go there. reset all in a safe christian country . country. >> i don't think they saw that one coming. didn't see that coming. i don't that was coming. i don't think that was part what is part of the plan. but what is part of the plan. but what is part plan , lee is there part of the plan, lee is there is a well organised infrastructure , a network. infrastructure, a network. i would even call it an industry behind this . alpha international behind this. alpha international is an organisation worth £16
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million per year. they go into prisons. good work, you might say to talk to convicts and inmates, but increasingly they seem to see it as their work to talk to asylum seekers with a view to introducing them to their local congregation , often their local congregation, often with a view to them remaining. you've been very vocal before about charities helping um, asylum seekers to get into britain. do you think this is starting to feel like a joined up network of getting asylum seekers to the country and then keeping them in? seekers to the country and then keeitng them in? seekers to the country and then keeitng anem in? seekers to the country and then keeitng an all n? seekers to the country and then keeitng an all industry, >> it is an all industry, martin. i was on the beaches of calais last year at migrant calais last year at the migrant camps you well know, and camps as you well know, and there was a charity there called care for kelly and they were encouraging these young men to the france . they were the camps in france. they were feeding them, clothing them , feeding them, clothing them, giving them shelter. they was , giving them shelter. they was, uh, giving them new mobile phones , data and the thing that phones, data and the thing that shocked me the most was these were these got little tents set up as schools teaching these young men how to speak english. up as schools teaching these youngwerei how to speak english. up as schools teaching these youngwere getting speak english. up as schools teaching these youngwere getting gettingenglish. up as schools teaching these youngwere getting getting them h. they were getting getting them
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ready for this, this perilous journey across the channel and ready for this, this perilous journwaiting;s the channel and ready for this, this perilous journwaiting for1e channel and ready for this, this perilous journwaiting for themannel and ready for this, this perilous journwaiting for them once and ready for this, this perilous journwaiting for them once they then waiting for them once they got here in the hotels to walk them asylum process . them through the asylum process. now, these people, these, these ngos charity that ngos and the other charity that you there, these are you mentioned there, these are as bad people smugglers. as bad as the people smugglers. they are part of a multi—million pound industry. and if we don't sort it out, i mean, i've been i mean, i feel like a stuck record. you know, my record. martin, you know, my solution from solution has always been from day one. send them straight back to the same day. if we'd to france the same day. if we'd have done that three years ago, this would have stopped have done that three years ago, this but would have stopped have done that three years ago, this but theyvould have stopped have done that three years ago, this but they keep have stopped have done that three years ago, this but they keep have st> to play devil's advocate for a . but back in the day, a moment. but back in the day, missionaries would go to far flung countries with a view to, um, passing on their enlightened values to overseas residents. do you think there's something of that? the um, justin welby flowing downwards? do they do you think they think they possess a more enlightened
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attitude and therefore they're passing that on? and people like you, people who disagree , you're you, people who disagree, you're the heathens. >> well, the problem with people like justin welby, i'm sure he's a good man. who who means well, but he doesn't live in the real world, martin. he lives. he lives in place called . well, lives in a place called. well, in the woods. he'd in my neck of the woods. he'd probably land. probably say cloud cuckoo land. uh where he has no idea what the actual people of this great country think. they are sick to death of seeing this nonsense on a daily basis. the first job of a daily basis. the first job of a government, of a country, of the state is to protect our borders. these men are borders. and these young men are coming we've seen the coming in. we've seen the horrible earlier reported coming in. we've seen the h0|gb.e earlier reported coming in. we've seen the h0|gb.e about'lier reported coming in. we've seen the h0|gb.e about this reported coming in. we've seen the h0|gb.e about this ,eported coming in. we've seen the h0|gb.e about this , this ed on gb news about this, this illegal migrant that claimed asylum through christianity went on to commit some horrible, horrible . and people like horrible crimes. and people like justin welby, they sit there in their towers , um, thinking their ivory towers, um, thinking they're of a higher being. um, they're a of a higher being. um, and thinking that they're doing goodin and thinking that they're doing good in this community and we're not what we're doing. martin, is important say this actually, important to say this actually, slowly, we sort of giving our country away to different
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cultures, different backgrounds, young men coming in that don't respect our values , they don't respect our values, they don't respect our values, they don't respect our heritage, our culture, certainly don't respect women. seen that recently. women. we've seen that recently. >> we see things go >> and when we see things go wrong we're seeing wrong and we're seeing unfortunately more and more cases where things are going wrong, we saw case abdul wrong, we saw the case of abdul ezedi , the chief suspect in ezedi, the chief suspect in this, this grotesque chemical this, in this grotesque chemical attack, come with christianity. the liverpool suicide bomber, he blew up that taxi outside the women's wing, the maternity ward converted to christianity when we see incidents like this lead, do you think there's a case to be made that these bleeding hearts are helping this process? they've blood on their hands. >> of course they have. mean, >> of course they have. i mean, these these people are , you these these people are, you know, they're seeing the world through glasses , through rose tinted glasses, thinking that every single young man in the back of man that arrives in the back of a or boat or, or god a lorry or on a boat or, or god fearing people that's fleeing war or persecution, but they're not martin. i mean, from day one ihave not martin. i mean, from day one i have said, because i spoke to these young men in the camps, they economic migrants . and they are economic migrants. and they are economic migrants. and the we're getting so the reason why we're getting so many over. at time
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many albanians over. at one time they boats , they were coming on small boats, martin up to £5,000. martin paying up to £5,000. i think it is to get here from albania when they could have got on air flight for £28 on a wizz air flight for £28 from tehran is straight into luton now. there's a reason they were boats is were coming on small boats is because didn't to because they didn't want to produce passport or any produce their passport or any documents visa, documents or any any visa, because that point we know because at that point we know who they are, where they're from and what they've up to and what they've been up to in the . yeah. and what they've been up to in the when yeah. and what they've been up to in the when yeaitalk to, um , earlier >> when you talk to, um, earlier a about you, you see a minute ago about you, you see the country slipping away . yeah. the country slipping away. yeah. um, what do you mean by that? you to elaborate? a lot of you care to elaborate? a lot of people same thing, what? >> was speaking to people what? >> weekend. aking to people what? >> weekend. umg to people what? >> weekend. um and people what? >> weekend. um and they. .e what? >> weekend. um and they. one at the weekend. um and they. one person suggested me that was sort of giving the country away . sort of giving the country away. and when you think about it, i found odd disagree and when you think about it, i founithat odd disagree and when you think about it, i founithat personi disagree and when you think about it, i founithat person because|ree and when you think about it, i founithat person because like i with that person because like i said, there's thousands of people in, both legally people coming in, both legally and illegally from different cultures and the ones that are coming on the small boats, especially , are coming from especially, are coming from cultures where they don't respect way of they respect our way of life. they don't even like our way of life. you certainly don't you know, they certainly don't respect you the way respect the, you know, the way we and our we treat our women and our
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children else children and everything else that great society that goes in this great society of slowly but surely, of ours. and slowly but surely, people up in this people are waking up in this country and think to themselves, my doing? my goodness, what are we doing? this i was this is not the country i was brought a i'm you brought up in. and i'm a i'm you know, i'm quite nostalgic, martin. think to childhood martin. i think to my childhood in 70s in ashfield and in the 70s in ashfield and growing i that growing up. and i like that place , you know, he got his place, you know, he got his problems, got a little bit of poverty that. but poverty and stuff like that. but i like that place. i like that place. know, respected place. you know, which respected our respected our our history, which respected our culture, up and stood culture, that sat up and stood up, and, sang the up, sorry. and, and sang the national and waved the national anthem and waved the flag. know, during during flag. you know, during during celebrations and stuff like that. and i'm sure that. i just feel and i'm sure there's people around the there's many people around the country same country feel exactly the same way i want to bring country feel exactly the same way back i want to bring country feel exactly the same way back a i want to bring country feel exactly the same way back a lot i want to bring country feel exactly the same way back a lot of want to bring country feel exactly the same way back a lot of people bring country feel exactly the same way back a lot of people willig that back a lot of people will say, of course, um, mass legal and illegal migration has happened on the conservative party's watch. it has. it's happened on everybody's watch. there's excuse for any there's no excuse for any political party this country . political party in this country. you know, in election after election, saying we're election, we keep saying we're going control, uh, migration, going to control, uh, migration, immigration and we don't, you know, and some people over there will say, well, it's for will say, well, it's good for the good the economy. it's not good for
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the economy. it's not good for the economy. it's not good for the economy. martin you know, if you people in, yes, you bring more people in, yes, we'll stuff. but we'll make more stuff. but i always know, basic always taught, you know, basic economics is the way that you become more productive as a business and ultimately, a country if you produce more country is if you produce more or people, that's just or less people, that's just that's simple. that's quite that's just simple. that's quite basic. and that the basic. and tell that to the people in ashfield waiting people in ashfield who's waiting for appointment or a for a doctor's appointment or a dental appointment, is just dental appointment, or is just had that knee operation cancelled second time, cancelled for the second time, they won't agree with that. >> paul, the >> do you think, paul, the problem, lee, is, is this kind of divorce from reality that a lot of senior parliamentarians . lot of senior parliamentarians. and lawyers might have, for example, the chancellor, they don't area where they don't live in an area where they can't a gp appointment, don't live in an area where they can't a gp appointment , they can't get a gp appointment, they can't get a gp appointment, they can't dentist appointment, can't get a dentist appointment, a school place . and it's not not a school place. and it's not not suppressing their wages if they're a plasterer or a bricklayer, there's a huge disconnect between the average working class person out there and the people running the country the same as we just spoke about. >> martin with the archbishop of canterbury. they do not live in the i work in that the real world. i work in that place over there and i'm sure you that a of mps you know that a lot of them mps in there all parties don't
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in there of all parties don't live world. live in the real world. they don't on don't live in that on that terraced ashfield. don't live in that on that terra(don't ashfield. don't live in that on that terra(don't see ashfield. don't live in that on that terra(don't see the shfield. don't live in that on that terra(don't see the people they don't see the people queuing up at the doctors the queuing up at the doctors in the morning queuing up at the doctors in the mornisee the people struggling , don't see the people struggling, you children you know, to get their children into school. they into the right school. they don't know , don't see the people, you know, struggling to that struggling to get that, that that appointment. they that doctor's appointment. they don't these you don't see all these things. you know, they don't know, they see and they don't see problems we've got with see the problems we've got with local young local social services and young people's services and stuff like that. it's for such that. because it's okay for such as me and i'm sure it's for as me and i'm sure it's okay for you. a decent to as me and i'm sure it's okay for you a a decent to as me and i'm sure it's okay for you a decent! decent to as me and i'm sure it's okay for you a decent! deceryou to if get a decent wage. you know, if i can't get a dental appointment, i can go to a private dentist. if private dentist. you know, if i've something in an i've got something in an emergency operation, need emergency operation, i need probably . i could probably emergency operation, i need probalto . i could probably emergency operation, i need probalto have uld probably emergency operation, i need probalto have itd probably emergency operation, i need probalto have it done)ably emergency operation, i need probalto have it done with my afford to have it done with my money. you know, money. i've got, you know, tucked i earned tucked away because i earned decent the vast decent money. but the vast majority of the constituents in my area aren't fortunate. like that. so this is who lies awake at night. we're going to pay the gas electric bill, gas bill or the electric bill, or afford to put 20 or can they afford to put 20 quid's worth diesel in the quid's worth of diesel in the car? there. car? it's not them over there. it's people on my street. >> now. lee, um, to finish, if we get a grip on this we don't get a grip on this situation um , controlled situation of, um, controlled immigration, no , no right to immigration, no, no right to
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deport a labour party coming if we don't get a grip on the situation. you mentioned about our country changing. where do you country is heading? >> well, this is the problem. you as bad as it is at the you see, as bad as it is at the moment, martin, bad. moment, martin, and it is bad. i'm sugarcoat it. moment, martin, and it is bad. i'rthe sugarcoat it. moment, martin, and it is bad. i'rthe party|garcoat it. moment, martin, and it is bad. i'rthe party|garget: it. moment, martin, and it is bad. i'rthe party|garget in, if the labour party do get in, they've silly they've already made some silly announcements about, announcements recently about, uh, about not deporting people who appear to be under the age of 18. now, we've seen this before , for with these before, for with some of these dodgy asylum seekers, they've got teeth got beards down here, no teeth and bald, and they're claiming to 15 old absolute to be 15 year old absolute nonsense. and that has to go through of process. so through some sort of process. so i fear for the country a lot. i do fear for the country a lot. um, under a labour government, like i say , we've not been like i say, we've not been brilliant but we've got brilliant at it, but we've got policies in place . hopefully the policies in place. hopefully the rwanda scheme will work. you know that place all the time has been against us. the house of lords now are sort of messing about rwanda bill. about with the rwanda bill. we've got to do it, martin, for the sake of this country and the sake okay sake of our children. okay >> conservative mp >> lee anderson, conservative mp for with for ashfield. thank you. with your opinions as your forthright opinions as eveh your forthright opinions as ever. and we'll have lots more on that story at 5:00. and
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investigators are trawling through hundreds of hours of cctv . and have tracked azad's cctv. and have tracked azad's movements on the tube network via his bank card, with the latest sighting now on southwark bridge at 9:50 pm. on wednesday day. the last confirmed time that he used this, his bank card was on wednesday. police have said counter terrorism officers or helping sift through cctv as part of this massive manhunt following the horrific attack in clapham , south london. just to clapham, south london. just to repeat that breaking news, police have made an arrest in the manhunt for um abdul ezedi. they've arrested and bailed a 22 year old man on suspicion of assisting an offender. the investigators are going through hundreds of hours of cctv to try and piece this together. so azadi still at large, but an accomplice, it appears, has been arrested . now police are arrested. now police are investigating reports of violence at an historic raf airbase that's set to house up
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to 2000 migrants. officers from lincolnshire police attended raf scampton in the early hours of sunday morning. the site was the home of the dambusters in world war ii, of course, and the local council is fighting plans to move migrants there from april. well, our east midlands reporter will hollis is at raf scampton. will hollis is at raf scampton. will welcome to the show a story that's captivated gb news viewers since the beginning. what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> yes, well, at the centre of the scampton story , it is the the scampton story, it is the home office tried to move asylum seekers into the historic airbase and despite developments over the last year, often the news is incidents around the periphery that are taking the spotlight . spotlight. >> in particular, things like anti—social behaviour, incidents including arrests in the past and even one incident that regarded a petrol bomb being
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found. >> but over the weekend , >> but over the weekend, lincolnshire police says they are now investigating reports of assault at a number of protester sites around the airbase . sites around the airbase. >> it's important to say that raf scampton has attracted a lot of attention from a lot of different groups, some that live here, close by, just outside the gates, others groups from around the country and all have come here for different reason . here for different reason. >> and at times there has been friction between them. >> but these latest allegations claim that masked people came in the middle of the night and assaulted a number of people in some incidents, quite simply pushing people, telling them to leave a particular campsite right in front of the gates of scampton in other incidents, accusations of full on assault where people have been punched out. >> now one of the people who says that she and her husband paul, says that she and her husband paul , were says that she and her husband paul, were assaulted was saira khan , who is one of the original
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khan, who is one of the original founders of the seva scampton campaign and a prominent voice in the campaign around scampton . in the campaign around scampton. >> well, there were so many people there that i can only remember one of them wearing a bandana across their face. i can't remember seeing masks, but again , 12 people all all over again, 12 people all all over the place. >> when you're in a state of panic, it's hard take panic, it's hard to take everything recognise everything in. i did recognise the faces and the police are aware of those people they are. >> um , but yeah, they, um, >> um, but yeah, they, um, decided to come in. >> didn't even sort of nicely ask, you know , this is ours. can ask, you know, this is ours. can you leave? you know, 12, 12 against two yet? we're not going to stick around. but they didn't even give us a chance to have the . um, the one of the conversation. um, the one of the conversation. um, the one of the guys just decided he was going to sort of launch paul onto the floor across the top of a chair. then he managed to get up and he threw him into , um, up and he threw him into, um, like this big wooden box that we had that was full of fence panels with nails in that were just chopped up wood for the fire and put them in there. and
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that's where he's got most of his of that's where he's got most of his in of that's where he's got most of his in there of that's where he's got most of his in there . of that's where he's got most of his in there . he of that's where he's got most of his in there . he managed of that's where he's got most of his in there . he managed to get put in there. he managed to get away , get to his car. they tried away, get to his car. they tried to get into car, but they to get into his car, but they then him alone . but then sort of left him alone. but in meantime, i sort of had in the meantime, i sort of had a bit of a scuffle, lost my, um, body cam in the process. didn't want them to take or damage my phone, which is what they were trying to get. so i, i'm not quite sure i ended up on the floor in the sort of trying to get away from them . get away from them. >> well, lincolnshire police says that they have not yet made any arrests in relation relation to sara's particular incident, but they are investigating those reports. they're asking anybody who may have dash cam footage that may have been travelling along the road where raf scampton is the a15, if they do have anything from over the weekend, particularly around saturday night and sunday, particularly in the small hours between those two days at the weekend, as well as across
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sunday, when more allegations of assault have happened . they're assault have happened. they're asking those people to send in footage, as i mentioned , there footage, as i mentioned, there are a number of protest groups with different ambitions around what they think should happen here at raf scampton and the police are reminding those people and asking them to treat each other respectfully , whether each other respectfully, whether that's their own personal safety and well—being, as well as their property and the space that they are using. it's important , i are using. it's important, i suppose, to remind you of what is happening with the raf base at raf scampton and back in the late part of last year, a judicial review was unsum successful. it is expected that asylum seekers will be moving into raf scampton in as early as april. west lindsey district council is going to appeal that decision and we can expect that there will be lots more news around what will happen here if, as asylum seekers will ever move into raf scampton .
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into raf scampton. >> cate hollis, thanks for that update. live from raf scampton. i just want to say sarah carter and those locals who've been camped at their site for many , camped at their site for many, many weeks now throughout very, very cold have been very cold weather have been protesting peacefully, respectfully , lee, they've been respectfully, lee, they've been causing no trouble . we've been causing no trouble. we've been following the story on gb news for many, many, many weeks and now it appears that the police reporting there an and sarah directly to gb news as masked intruders . assailants from intruders. assailants from outside the area. they claim assaulting them . um, very very assaulting them. um, very very serious situation. if locals peacefully protesting or being harangued by people where ing masks from outside the area, that's the story will be sure to keep all across in this hour across gb news for the rest of the day. let's hope the police investigate and have a swift resolution of justice on that front . there's lots more still front. there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00 and a few minutes. i'll have the
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latest on the hunt for chemical attacks. suspect abdul ezedi abdul . as we said after abdul ezedi. as we said after detectives hunting for him have arrested and bailed a 22 year old man on suspicion of assisting an offender. but first, your latest news headunes first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> so the headlines this hour, then let's bring you some more on those latest developments in the hunt for abdul ezedi. the met police saying that 22 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender . suspicion of assisting an offender. he's been suspicion of assisting an offender . he's been since offender. he's been since released on bail this afternoon. we are expecting new footage to be released shortly of azadi walking across southwark bridge in london just before 10:00 on wednesday evening . police are wednesday evening. police are also telling us they are now tracking his bank card, but it hasn't been used since wednesday evening and we understand the focus of the search is still very much on the area south of
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london. south london itself . london. south london itself. police still warning those helping abdul ezedi will face arrest themselves and they've continued to appeal for the public's health help rather in bringing him in. meanwhile northern ireland's first minister michelle o'neill says more money is needed for public services in northern ireland. it comes after a meeting with the prime minister, rishi sunak , to prime minister, rishi sunak, to discuss stormont's finances, where power sharing has now returned. however, the prime minister says the new £3.3 billion funding deal is already significant and generous, and the defence secretary says the uk will, if necessary, not hesitate to respond once again if the houthis strike again in self—defence. the prime minister earlier said their illegal campaign in the red sea is having economic consequences. meanwhile the white house says the us plan to launch more strikes at iranian backed groups in the middle east is coming in the next few days. but rebel leaders say the latest uk us air strikes won't stop them from
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targeting ships . and here in the targeting ships. and here in the uk, a whole day of snow could be on the way with a yellow weather warning issued for large parts of england and wales for later this week. the met office saying winter weather could lead to disruption , with power cuts and disruption, with power cuts and travel . the warning runs travel delays. the warning runs from 3 am. thursday to the same time on friday morning, and it involves stretches from cumbria and the scottish border town down to cambridgeshire and the midlands. in england , all of midlands. in england, all of northern and central wales also included in that warning. further detail on all that by going to gp news.com . or you can going to gp news.com. or you can sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts . alerts. >> for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , a
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alkali attack suspect abdel azadi have now arrested and bailed a 22 year old man on suspicion of assisting an offender . well, a reporter, ray offender. well, a reporter, ray addison, is outside new scotland yard. ray and the story is developing . what's all the developing. what's all the latest ? latest? >> well, police here telling us that the focus of their search for ezidi is now most firmly on south london when they're going to be releasing a new image imminently, which was taken from cctv footage of ezidi walking in the southwark bridge area at around 9:50 pm. on wednesday night. now they say they've got hundreds and hundreds of hours of cctv footage to go through, and over 200 calls as well to the dedicated hotline , which is the dedicated hotline, which is being manned 24 hours a day, and that they say, is the reason for the slight delay in releasing some of these images. but yes, in the early hours of this
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morning around 12:45 am, a 22 year old man as you were saying, martin, was arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. um, they believe that he the reason they arrested him was on suspicion of assisting yazidi after the offence. he was taken to a south london police station. but this afternoon he was released on bail. police say they've tracking azad's bank card, which he was using as he negotiated his way through the london tube network that hasn't been used since wednesday evening, we're told. and they believe that that indicates one of two things. either he could have come to some form of harm or he has found somebody who can shelter him and look after him, and he therefore hasn't been out and he therefore hasn't been out and about since wednesday . now and about since wednesday. now they've also recovered his mobile phone. they took that from the vehicle that he'd been driving that wednesday night, which was involved in a collision. they said it was
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extremely difficult to the extremely difficult to get the mobile of that vehicle mobile phone out of that vehicle because the corrosive because of the corrosive material that was believed to be in the car. however, now they've retrieved that phone analysis of it is underway at the moment, and they've also analysed using the mother's phone to there , the mother's phone to there, confirming she does have life changing injuries. and she most likely has lost the sight in her right eye. >> okay. thank you, ray addison , >> okay. thank you, ray addison, for that update. live from new scotland yard now. moving on. abdul ezedi has been missing for five days now, so how do the police go about catching him in a major manhunt of this nature ? a major manhunt of this nature? well, i'm joined now by former metropolitan police senior investigating officer peter kirkham. peter, welcome to the show. so i don't know how much you heard of that there, peter, but fresh information pouring in. um, azad's bank card now , in. um, azad's bank card now, um, not been used since wednesday. the police have his mobile phone the last cctv imagery also appears to be from southwark bridge in london, round about the same time, just
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before 10:00 on wednesday . since before 10:00 on wednesday. since then, he's gone totally off grid. um what with that and the introduction of a £20,000 cash reward? peter kirkham , what does reward? peter kirkham, what does that say to you about the nature and the situation of this massive manhunt now? >> good evening. >> good evening. >> um, one of two things really , >> um, one of two things really, um, i've he is hunkered down somewhere, in which case somebody will be needing to support him, uh, providing food, water, um . providing um, water, um. providing um, everything else that goes with, uh, with life. >> um , maybe medical attention >> um, maybe medical attention or, you know, um, some sort of medical aid for his injury to his face. um or he's come to some harm either at his own hands or some other way. uh, i suspect the former, rather than the latter. um there is also a
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third possibility, but i think everything suggesting this hasn't happened is that he might have fled the uk. um so i think, uh, the, the meta tightening the net really, um, around south—east london, that seems to be where everything is indicated. they've got the mobile phone that they can now work with. um, they will steadily be building up a list of associates. and we've heard that, uh, one person has been arrested and bailed on suspicion of assisting him . um, that no of assisting him. um, that no doubt will lead to other lines of inquiry and other addresses and other names and other phone numbers , uh, and other vehicle numbers, uh, and other vehicle details , all of which they can details, all of which they can then pursue . um, and certainly then pursue. um, and certainly look for things that are all pointing together into the same place . um, it's tightening and place. um, it's tightening and i'd be very surprised if he remains at large for very much longer , because, peter, a lot of longer, because, peter, a lot of people are scratching their
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heads and asking the very reasonable questions. >> you know, i can't drive my car london getting car in london without getting a ticket. down the wrong ticket. if i turn down the wrong street, seems we're all street, it seems that we're all being tracked traced being tracked and traced wherever can a wherever we go. how can a dangerous felon of this nature simply vanish if he was in a car , then that would be a very simple matter to track that vehicle and it would pop up on cameras where anpr technology is being used all over the place . being used all over the place. >> um, and that is relatively straightforward to do. but of course , we don't wear a number course, we don't wear a number plate , um, facial recognition plate, um, facial recognition technology isn't that good? uh, especially in sort of moving cities locations like public crime scenes , uh, public crowd crime scenes, uh, public crowd scenes , uh, where people are all scenes, uh, where people are all different angles and the lighting is not the best. and people get in the way of each other and such like so facial recognition isn't really used to any great extent. certainly not, uh, across, you know, large swathes of public space. and yes, there's lots of cctv
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cameras, but what they're not doing is tracking individuals. there's nobody watching the most the majority of them from the majority of the time , um, uh, majority of the time, um, uh, let alone being able to identify individuals within that. the police have said that they're going through cctv. yes. they'll have seized a lot. and as they get more and more focussed, uh, in their enquiries and the trail is sort of taking them in particular directions, they'll be gathering more and more cctv , be gathering more and more cctv, but then they've got to watch it and that is not a quick task . and that is not a quick task. um, you need numerous officers, you need sets of kit that you can watch it on and decode it and watch it on, uh, and if you want it done properly. so you're pretty sure you're not. he's not on it , then to take its on it, then it needs to take its time . and, you you time. and, you know, you can't really watch it in real time. and you're looking for an individual. to be individual. it's got to be slowed down. >> okay? okay. peter kirkham , >> okay? okay. peter kirkham, former metropolitan police senior investigating officer thank you for the latest. your
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expert opinion on the continuing manhunt for abdul ezedi . now manhunt for abdul ezedi. now you're watching and listening to gb news and coming up, we'll be discussing the locals in farnborough, 91% of whom oppose a local plan to house migrants in a block of flats. and we'll speak to a local next for his thoughts on martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel
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radio. well come back, it's 449 now. how. >> now. >> prince william at rates of return to work after princess catherine was discharged from hospital last week. and joining me now to discuss this is our royal correspondent, cameron walker. cameron, fantastic news. >> it is very good news. we're going another senior going to have another senior member of the royal family back in action. so it's all taking place on wednesday. going in action. so it's all taking place conducting day. going in action. so it's all taking place conducting day investiture; to be conducting an investiture at windsor of very at windsor castle of course very close adelaide cottage, where close to adelaide cottage, where he caring his wife he has been caring for his wife catherine course, their catherine and of course, their three children she three young children as she continues from continues to recover from abdominal surgery and then in
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the evening, he's attending one of his patronages, fundraising galas for london air ambulance. of his patronages, fundraising galbecame ndon air ambulance. of his patronages, fundraising galbecame patron ir ambulance. of his patronages, fundraising galbecame patron inambulance. of his patronages, fundraising galbecame patron in marchince. of his patronages, fundraising galbecame patron in march 2020, he became patron in march 2020, helped celebrate their 30th anniversaries the year before that. and of course, it's of course very close to prince william's because william's heart because for years he actually flew as a pilot for east anglia air ambulance. so yeah, news pilot for east anglia air am around.. so yeah, news all around. >> excellent. there's >> excellent. and there's another around another rumour flying around about princess kate. >> which i have been told >> yeah. which i have been told by a very reliable source is totally ridiculous. but there were rumours in international media that the princess of wales was quite ill in a coma. i've been told we do not need to worry. completely worry. that is completely unfounded recovering worry. that is completely unfexpected recovering worry. that is completely unfexpected and recovering worry. that is completely unfexpected and we'll)vering worry. that is completely unfexpected and we'll see ng worry. that is completely unfexpected and we'll see her at we expected and we'll see her at easter. >> two great good news stories there. thank very much , there. thank you very much, cameron walker, for that quick update , kate. now let's bring update, kate. now let's bring you a big update on a story that we've been from we've been covering from the beginning over the beginning on this show over the last weeks, that's the last few weeks, and that's the home plan to house more home office plan to house more than 300 asylum seekers in a brand new block of luxury flats in farnborough . locals have been in farnborough. locals have been protesting about the scheme over
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the last few weeks, and now some fresh a massive 91% of fresh news. a massive 91% of people have replied to a survey launched by the local mp to say they are dead against the plan . they are dead against the plan. well can now speak with a local resident . jazz stocking jazz resident. jazz stocking jazz welcome to the show . hi martin welcome to the show. hi martin jazz, thanks for joining us, mate. so 91% of locals agree with you. so what's the latest on site? are they still continuing to fit the site out to move people in or for now, as the home office promised, and the home office promised, and the local council in rushmoor , the local council in rushmoor, have things been paused ? have things been paused? >> well, i think we've gone past the, uh , end of january deadline. >> they said they were going to move them in by, but it seems like stuff is still being moved in on a on a basis daily basis over the weekend, the security lights that made it look like a prison camp again went on one of our, uh , protesters lives in the our, uh, protesters lives in the flats opposite , and she couldn't flats opposite, and she couldn't get to sleep and i think had to
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move out of the flat for the weekend. >> so it obvious that things are still going on. >> the seem to have upped the security there as well. there seems to more security guards. >> so yeah, i think things are still progressing to maybe move the migrants into the flats fairly soon. and jazz, you've been having a series of peaceful protests over the past few weekends seem to be very well attended. i hear 150 people were in attendance at one of them, and it seems that the community is massively on your side. well 91% is a huge figure, isn't it? >> in any poll, if you get 91, you're talking almost a majority of people . of people. >> um, that survey was carried out by the local mp leo docherty . yes. we had 150. i think it was two weeks ago. our next protest is this saturday. we hope to get more many people seem to be talking to me, saying that we're doing the right thing and we just need them to join the protests , not suffer with the protests, not suffer with any fear. >> we've had no counter protests
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as of yet , which at these sort as of yet, which at these sort of demonstrations , i think you of demonstrations, i think you normally a counter normally do get a counter protest , but the locals normally do get a counter protfull, but the locals normally do get a counter protfull for|t the locals normally do get a counter protfull for on the locals normally do get a counter protfull for on this. the locals are full for on this. >> yeah, and jazz, of course, we're seeing stories about, um, asylum seekers, um, going on to commit . crimes. and of course, commit. crimes. and of course, these are the kinds of very real fears that residents in farnborough have about who may be there be allowed into the bloc. there >> unbelievable . yeah. i >> oh, unbelievable. yeah. i think there's a lot of fear. you chat to people, uh , they are chat to people, uh, they are frightened. you know, i mean, with this chemical attack the last week , it's horrific. and we last week, it's horrific. and we don't sort of thing don't want that sort of thing going farnborough. going on in farnborough. farnborough has enough of its going on in farnborough. farn problems as enough of its going on in farnborough. farn problems with ough of its going on in farnborough. farn problems with petty of its going on in farnborough. farn problems with petty crime, own problems with petty crime, but we don't seem to have major crime. >> but we don't want any of that type thing in farnborough. type of thing in farnborough. i've been talking to other people that are trying to stop similar things in their own town. >> no to north they? they've >> no to north are they? they've carried survey and carried out a similar survey and again 90% local again, it was 90% of local residents didn't want the migrants moving into their area . migrants moving into their area. >> well, jazz, we've been doing our bit on gb news to shine a light on this story all the way
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along, and it seems that coming together as a community and peacefully, and getting your local politicians and council on board so far seems to be working. jez peaceful is the word we come with. >> we've got women, children, main probably 80% of men, but i think women , maybe they're not think women, maybe they're not into demonstrating as much as men, but we encourage this saturday more women to come out. bnng saturday more women to come out. bring your children, even bring your dogs for a little walk, you know, demonstrate . just know, just demonstrate. just show of rushmoor show that the people of rushmoor believe that this is the wrong thing to do. i mean, everybody else, all the people you speak to want to hold these demonstrations and stop these migrants moving in apart from it seems to be local councillors. i mean, we emailed 39 local councillors, only five of them bothered to actually even reply to us. okay and three of those were all for the migrants being housed. >> jazz stocking i'm afraid we have to leave it there. thanks for joining us. that's people forjoining us. that's people power coming into force now. coming up, we'll be covering the
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well -- well . well. >> good afternoon. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk in a few minutes i'll be joined by the conservative mp and deputy chair of the party, rachel mclean she's landed rachel mclean. she's just landed right now but before that, right here. now but before that, we'll the abuse of the we'll cover the abuse of the asylum as 40 migrants on asylum system as 40 migrants on the stockholm barge are the bibby stockholm barge are converting as if by a miracle, to christianity in a bid to be given asylum . and there's given asylum. and there's reaction to the worrying news that hundreds of firearms officers have quit the metropolitan police since one of their was charged their colleagues was charged with murder and rishi sunak. but in northern ireland today. but next monday, he'll be live on gb news >> hi rishi here as prime minister, i'm focussed on delivering on your priorities. so i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum on monday the 12th of
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february, where i'll be taking questions from a live audience about the issues that really matter to you. the economy , matter to you. the economy, immigration, the nhs. matter to you. the economy, immigration, the nhs . see you immigration, the nhs. see you there . there. >> now, isn't that the reason that gb news was launched in the first place? putting questions to the prime minister directly. you the people holding the powerful to account. and on that point, what would you like to ask the prime minister, rishi sunak, next monday evening? email your questions gb views email me your questions gb views at gb news.com. i'll look through them and pick some of the best and try and them in the best and try and get them in the best and try and get them in the hold rishi the pot so you can hold rishi sunak to account. but before that, it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin. thank you. good afternoon to you. let's just start this bulletin with some breaking news. we're hearing concerns the stabbings last week
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in bristol. i can tell you a 14 year old has been charged with the murder of two teenagers in bristol last week. he's the seventh person to be charged in connection with the deaths of 15 year old mason rist and 16 year old max dixon. they were stabbed in the knowle west area in the south of the city last weekend. police just announcing that new arrest within the last 15 minutes. well in other news today, northern ireland's first minister michelle o'neill says more money is needed for public services in northern ireland. it comes after meeting with rishi sunak to discuss stormont's finances , where power sharing finances, where power sharing has now returned . however, has now returned. however, speaking at a visit to a primary school in northern ireland, the prime minister said the new £3.3 billion funding deal is already significant and generous . significant and generous. >> i had very constructive meetings today with all political leaders in stormont and the new executive and the funding package that we put on the table before christmas, i
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think has been widely recognised as being significant and generous. £3.3 billion a focus on long terme sustainability, ensuring that northern ireland has the funding it needs , not has the funding it needs, not just for today to deal with the immediate challenges, but is on a towards being able to a path towards being able to provide quality public provide high quality public services future. services into the future. because that's what we want a brighter future for the children that time that i've been spending time with at this school here this morning and speaking at a news conference in stormont, the irish premier leo varadkar, pledged he'd do everything he could to help the northern ireland executive be successful . ireland executive be successful. >> a lot of everyday issues that need attention here in northern ireland, and i know they're going to work very hard on that and get and we're keen to get north—south going north—south cooperation going again. of the again. have a meeting of the nsmc in the next couple of weeks and focus on that and focus on some of that practical cooperation that works well for everyone on the island . well for everyone on the island. so i'm very keen to work with the new executive and looking forward to doing that . now the forward to doing that. now the defence secretary, grant shapps,
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says the uk will, if necessary, not hesitate to respond again against the houthis in self—defence . self—defence. >> the prime minister earlier said there illegal campaign in the red sea is having economic consequence ounces. and in the united states , the white house united states, the white house says the us plan to launch more strikes at iranian backed groups in the middle east will happen in the middle east will happen in the middle east will happen in the coming days, but rebel leaders say the latest uk us airstrikes won't stop them from targeting commercial shipping. grant shapps updated the commons on the escalation in the red sea earlier . earlier. >> mr speaker, military action can only be one element in our efforts to confront these global challenges and military action isindeed challenges and military action is indeed the very last resort. it would be far better if the houthis simply stopped their attacks. grant shapps . attacks. grant shapps. >> well, let's bring you some latest developments on the hunt for the afghan asylum seeker. abdul ezedi the metropolitan police is saying that a 22 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. he's since been
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released on bail. this afternoon, the met's also said it's recovered . abdulaziz's it's recovered. abdulaziz's mobile phone is in focusing now. the search in south london and additional . a £20,000 reward is additional. a £20,000 reward is being offered for any information that could lead to his arrest after last week's attack injured a mother and hurt her two young children, police have warned that those helping azadi will face arrest and have called upon the public for greater help . meanwhile, 40 greater help. meanwhile, 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm home barge have reportedly conveyed started to christianity , raising concerns christianity, raising concerns that migrants are claiming to change their religion in order to stay in the uk. it's change their religion in order to stay in the uk . it's reported to stay in the uk. it's reported 1 in 7 of the 300 migrants on board the vessel are attending local churches, fuelling concerns about the role churches may be playing in asylum claims. the transport minister, huw merriman , says the government merriman, says the government is, though, making good progress to the number of illegal to reduce the number of illegal migrants crossing into the uk . migrants crossing into the uk. today there's action that's on
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the new laws that we need and there's also action on reducing there's also action on reducing the amount of cases that are outstanding and we've had a huge number that have been reduced in the last year. >> we've also reduced the number of illegal migrants crossing by 36% in a year, as well . so 36% in a year, as well. so there's progress, but it actually tells us that we need to continue to clamp down both using powers from parliament and also using the resources we have to get those numbers reduced . to get those numbers reduced. >> merriman, now an asylum seeker, has been sentenced to 18 months in jail after a woman fell overboard and drowned while he was piloting a boat with over 70 illegal migrants on board. the 22 year old continued the journey across the english channel until the boat was intercepted by border force. he told officers that he'd left sudanin told officers that he'd left sudan in 2021 and made his way to france , and despite initially to france, and despite initially denying any other charges, he later pleaded guilty to facilitating illegal migration. the national crime agency said
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today. sentencing shows their commitment to holding people to account for putting lives at risk . now a whole day of snow risk. now a whole day of snow could be on the way with a yellow weather warning issued for large parts of england and wales for later this week, the met office saying the winter weather could lead to disruption , with power cuts and possible travel delays. the warning runs from 3 am. thursday to the same time friday, and it stretches from cumbria and the scottish borders down to cambridgeshire and the midlands and all of central wales and northern wales is included in the warning, as well . for the latest stories , do well. for the latest stories, do sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you pauly. now we start with the abuse of our asylum system by migrants who are as if
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by magic, claiming to be christian just to stay in the country. 40 asylum seekers on the bibby stockholm am are converting to christianity , and converting to christianity, and that's almost 1 converting to christianity, and that's almost1 in converting to christianity, and that's almost 1 in 7 of all migrants on that barge. and this comes, of course , after abdul comes, of course, after abdul ezedl comes, of course, after abdul ezedi, who's the main suspect in last week's chemical attack case, was given asylum on the bafis case, was given asylum on the basis that he too had converted to christian and therefore could not be returned to afghanistan . not be returned to afghanistan. varne well to join this topic, i'm now joined in the studio in westminster by the conservative mp redditch and the deputy mp for redditch and the deputy chair of the party, rachel mclean. rachel, thank for mclean. rachel, thank you for joining us. pleasure on gb news. a lot of people are starting to look at this think, there's look at this and think, there's something going on here. it can't coincidence . that's can can't be coincidence. that's can it, rachel, that so many people who seeking suddenly who are seeking asylum suddenly seem to seeing light from seem to be seeing the light from above and deciding to convert to christianity? the big question is , is this a joined up, is, is this a joined up, orchestrated industry ? orchestrated industry? >> i think it's absolutely right
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, martin, that people are looking at this and they're asking questions and they're right to do so. >> and i want to be clear, i don't blame any individual migrant for doing absolutely everything they can to stay in our country, because our country is a wonderful place. we know that people want to come here because of our of life and because of our way of life and the things that we hold dear, which important , which is all the more important, in my view, that we protect our borders and we have control over migration. >> but when it comes to this issue of religious conversion, i think it is a really hard one, because i don't think it's actually fair on those faith leaders , those those people, leaders, those those people, those ministers and vicars and so on who have to make a decision like that because they're just not in the position to be able to look at all the facts in the round. >> and i think this whole issue of conversion, the faith conversion and the links to the asylum system really does need to be looked at again . to be looked at again. >> and what would that look like? because does this filter from the top we have justin welby, the head of the church of
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england, who seems to believe that we should place of our that we should place all of our belief in asylum seekers and that may come at a cost to the british public, as we've seen with abdul ezedi as we've seen with abdul ezedi as we've seen with liverpool suicide with the liverpool suicide bomber, both of whom converted with the liverpool suicide bo christianity of whom converted with the liverpool suicide bochristianity .f whom converted to christianity. >> yeah, exactly. so i'm a christian. i'm a member of the christian. i'm a member of the christian faith, a member of my local church and christians as a group have a huge variety of views on this . the archbishop of views on this. the archbishop of canterbury , justin welby, has canterbury, justin welby, has got his own views and he is an advancing a particular agenda. >> he sets the tone. he does. >> he sets the tone. he does. >> he sets the tone. he does. >> he he of course, is he is leading and his comments are very, very influential. and he's made them in a number of forums. i don't think that is the right way to approach the issue because unfortunately, what happens then is that not only is he damaging the institution of our own democracy and our asylum system, but also , i think it system, but also, i think it damages the fabric of the institution of the church of
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england because there are lots and lots of christian ones, and i don't claim to speak for all christians at all. um, but there are christians who don't think that this is the right way to go about it . and if you really step about it. and if you really step back for a moment, this is a really hard problem . how can you really hard problem. how can you look into someone's heart? i mean, christianity is a private, personal thing . you profess your personal thing. you profess your faith to god and only god knows what you really believe. and i think it's something that it because people are being or they think or they're trying to be kind and compassionate, of course demonstrate course they are and demonstrate christian love. it is something that, unfortunately, can can lead to loopholes in the system . lead to loopholes in the system. >> a lot of people, rachel, are starting to think sukh for right or wrong , that the church, or for wrong, that the church, the home office, charities , the home office, charities, charities that bring asylum seekers or facilitate their arrival to the britain and those that prevent their removal from britain , um universities, even
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britain, um universities, even the rnli bringing people ashore are working contrary to the beliefs of the government and of the electorate . the electorate. >> yeah, and i would agree with that. uh, across the board , all that. uh, across the board, all those institutions that you've mentioned and have a view that migration is an unalloyed good, and it may be the case that there are many, many migrants who come to do essential jobs and of us have and so on. and none of us have any animus towards those individuals who are fleeing the desperate . but of desperate situations. but of course, adds up to the course, when it adds up to the numbers that we see and when we see abuses and when we also see criminals who we can't deport back to their own country , back to their own country, people then start to question it. a debate in the people then start to question it. of a debate in the people then start to question it. of commons bate in the people then start to question it. of commons on e in the people then start to question it. of commons on wednesday house of commons on wednesday about deportation of foreign national offenders, and i'll be questioning the ministers and the we have, as the government. now. we have, as a conservative government, introduced very tough introduced some very, very tough legislation and we've made some progress terms of how we can progress in terms of how we can deport people and get out deport people and get them out of and to of the country. me and i have to say, martin, every single stage you've seen, the people that
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have opposed they want to have opposed us, they want to win party. it's been win the labour party. it's been the the the charity. it's been the church . and actually church leaders. and actually they are speaking for the they are not speaking for the ordinary people in this country who just look at this and think, what on earth is going on? these people have committed crimes they be here. they shouldn't be here. >> yet we still seen >> and yet we still haven't seen a single flight leave for rwanda . single person been . not a single person has been deported that way. people. i think , are really think rachel, are really starting to faith in our starting to lose faith in our ability to deport anybody from this country, no matter how heinous their crimes. well we have seen some deportation flights for some of these other countries. >> and of course , we've seen >> and of course, we've seen a quite >> and of course, we've seen a quhe and >> and of course, we've seen a quite and robust returns quite good and robust returns agreement with albania , which agreement with albania, which has dealt with quite a lot of people who've come through people who've come here through the lorry the small boat and the lorry route. uh, last year i was in your studio. were talking your studio. we were talking about plan and, uh, about the rwanda plan and, uh, that through that has now gone through parliament. look, let's see parliament. so look, let's see where with we where we get to with that. we need that deterrent. i strongly believe we need to have believe that we need to have that. have an impact that. and it will have an impact when it comes but i think when it comes in. but i think even meantime, ahead of even in the meantime, ahead of the thing, got the rwanda thing, we've got people already here and
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people who are already here and they be here. they've they shouldn't be here. they've committed crimes. they shouldn't be here. they've committed crimes . they've they committed crimes. they've they are people . uh, some of are violent people. uh, some of them are rapists. some of them are paedophiles. and while we are paedophiles. and while we are having some success in getting some of them out, we need , in my view, to accelerate need, in my view, to accelerate that . because after all, that process. because after all, let's we need the let's not forget we need the prison places for our own population. need make sure population. we need to make sure that we've got those deterrents and keep the public and we keep the public safe. >> ever. rachel >> excellent. as ever. rachel mclennan, thank you very much for the studio. mp forjoining us in the studio. mp forjoining us in the studio. mp for redditch the party forjoining us in the studio. mp for red chairman,the party forjoining us in the studio. mp for red chairman, please :y forjoining us in the studio. mp for red chairman, please come deputy chairman, please come back and how debate back and tell us how that debate carried on, because i think people are starting to lose a bit of faith. so let's get you back in to see how that went on. thank joining back in to see how that went on. thin( joining back in to see how that went on. thin( studio. joining back in to see how that went on. thin( studio. always joining back in to see how that went on. thin( studio. always aoining us in the studio. always a pleasure. now you get lots more on the migrants who are converting on converting to christianity on our to you, our website. and thanks to you, gbnews.com is the fastest growing national news website in the country . it's got breaking the country. it's got breaking news all brilliant news and all the brilliant analysis come analysis that you've come to expect gb news. now to the expect from gb news. now to the hunt for chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi has taken a new twist in this past hour because
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police have confirmed that a 22 year old man was arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender in the early hours of this morning. police have also said that they are continuing to track azad's bank card, which hasn't been used since wednesday evening. the search continues for the suspect, who is believed to be hiding somewhere in south london. our reporter, ray addison , is live. he's outside addison, is live. he's outside new scotland yard and he joins us on the show now . ray, a huge us on the show now. ray, a huge amount of fresh information has come out in the past hour. amount of fresh information has come out in the past hour . bring come out in the past hour. bring us up to speed, please . us up to speed, please. >> hundreds of specialist officers, martin, are scour bnng officers, martin, are scour bring hundreds of hours of cctv footage . after over 200 calls to footage. after over 200 calls to the emergency number to report sightings. suspected sightings of azizi. as this manhunt continues , as you were saying, continues, as you were saying, though, the focus of this investigation really is the south london area. why because azizi was spotted at 950 on
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wednesday evening , crossing wednesday evening, crossing southwark bridge . that's the southwark bridge. that's the last known sighting of him. there's going to be a new image released of him, which police will be hoping very much will jog will be hoping very much will jog anyone who jog the memories of anyone who may have been in that area. and then saw he after then saw where he went after that point. now, in the early hours of this morning, at around 12:45 am, 822 year old man was arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender and police, stressing that they believed at the time that this man may have assisted azadi arch after the offence, not in the preparation of any offence. now he was taken to a south london police station, but he was bailed this afternoon . soon bailed this afternoon. soon police say that they , as you police say that they, as you were saying, have been tracking azad's bank card. he was using that he went through the rail that as he went through the rail network. the underground network, and it hasn't been used since wednesday evening . police since wednesday evening. police say there could be two reasons for that. either he's he's come to some form of harm or he's found shelter with somebody who
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is hiding him away and perhaps helping him with medical treatment . the force. the met treatment. the force. the met has also recovered azad's mobile phone and the phone of the 31 year old woman who was injured in that attack on wednesday night. they say they are analysing both phones as kyrees to try and find potential contacts, but hers as well to try and figure out what kind of relationship azadi may have had to that woman. now she remains in a sedated , critical but in a sedated, critical but stable condition , and they do stable condition, and they do say she's got serious injuries , say she's got serious injuries, which she will have for the rest of her life. particularly, they suspect that she may have lost the sight in her right eye. they've been unable to speak to her because she is so poorly at the moment, and so they're unable to confirm if azadi was in some form of relationship with this woman. but they have stressed that they do not believe that he is the children's father. so this manhunt is considering a continuing concern . pace
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continuing concern. pace hundreds of specialist officers and they do say it's their belief that someone in the community knows where he is, and they're urging them to come forward . forward. >> thank you for that update. that's ray addison, live at new scotland yard with all the latest on the increased manhunt for chemical attack suspect abdul azadi. now, what would you do with an extra £1,500 each month for an entire year? well, he could win that in our great british giveaways . 18 grand in british giveaways. 18 grand in cold, hard cash is up for grabs . cold, hard cash is up for grabs. and here's how you could make all of that cash yours. >> there's an incredible . >> there's an incredible. £18,000 in cash to won be in the latest great british giveaway . latest great british giveaway. totally tax free cash that you could do whatever you like with. that works out to be an extra £1,500 to play with each month for a whole year. money to make each month just a little bit better. you could put it towards monthly treats, save it for a rainy day , or just use it to rainy day, or just use it to take the pressure off in 2024
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the incident happened in front of joseph cohen from the israel advocacy movement and joseph also clashed with a man who said he would burn him. a warning to our viewers and listeners that the video you're about to see does mentions of does contain mentions of religiously motivated violence. >> flicking your leader before telling me you were going to burn my beard. >> no, no no no no. >>— >> no, no no no no. >> when we get palestine, i will do it for you. >> yeah you won't. yeah. no no not when we palestine, >> when we get palestine, inshallah . inshallah. >> and you do it, then i'm >> and you won't do it, then i'm gonna the bottom gonna burn you from the bottom to to palestine. you >> when we get to palestine. you know i need go to know why i need to go to palestine and it now. wait palestine and do it now. wait because we. palestine and do it now. wait bechuz we. palestine and do it now. wait bechu , we. palestine and do it now. wait bechu , you we. palestine and do it now. wait bechu , you you we. palestine and do it now. wait bechu , you you go we. palestine and do it now. wait bechu , you you go to we. palestine and do it now. wait bechu , you you go to palestine, >> you, you you go to palestine, you patronise my people. you kick them away from their homes. >> you made them asylum on all around the world, bro. >> watch this, people watch this. >> there million >> there are 2 million arabs living israeli living in israel as israeli citizens full equality . how citizens with full equality. how many jews libya? many jews in libya? >> don't have. many jews in libya? >> andion't have. many jews in libya? >> and he 't have. many jews in libya? >> and he has|ve. many jews in libya? >> and he has the audacity to talk about kicking people out. of , drove the jews out of of course, drove the jews out of libya . libya. >> you come libya, i'm going to
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cook like macaroni and cook you like a macaroni and listen to the fanatics laughing. listen them . listen to them. >> is can't live >> this is why we can't live under them . this need under them. this is why we need this. pay attention. >> they pay attention. >> they pay attention. >> attention . >> jews pay attention. >> jews pay attention. >> i mean it, it utterly makes me despair. joseph cohen now joins me in the studio . joseph joins me in the studio. joseph how is this allowed to happen on british streets and in particular, that's at speaker's corner , speaker's corner corner, speaker's corner globally. historically recognised as a place of free speech. that's not free speech. that's direct racism against jewish people. >> it's not just racism. it's inciting violence. >> and one of the most disturbing things about both of those clips actually , it wasn't those clips actually, it wasn't what's being said. >> it was the reaction to what's being said. >> there are dozens of people there. >> not one person spoke out, not one person other than myself even bothered to respond in a assertive way . assertive way. >> it's a harrowing place for jews, a terrifying place for jews, a terrifying place for jews to find themselves where
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you can have such violent anti—semitism and absolutely nobody says a thing. they turn away . away. >> and joseph, not only that, there have been serious attacks at speakers corner . um hatun at speakers corner. um hatun tash, a christian preacher, um, was threatened with murder by an individual who converted to islam, was paying £5,000 for weapons to go and do an attempt of murder. a woman in a charlie hebdo t—shirt was slashed at speaker's corner by a muslim assailant in july 2021. what's happening there? who are these people and what do they want? >> extremists and the >> so they're extremists and the overwhelming majority of them actually weren't born in this country. they were born in countries .where unfortunately, there is real anti—semitism. the ada adl has put out polls in places like egypt, which is where the gentleman who was throwing up nazi salutes came from, um, in libya, which is where the second gentleman and was from where they found
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respondents overwhelmingly held anti—semitic positions and they're coming to the uk and they're coming to the uk and they're introducing very , very they're introducing very, very dangerous ideologies , um, to dangerous ideologies, um, to people who've never been exposed to such hatred . to such hatred. >> so, joseph, that is individual and being charitable with that word there threatened to burn you and the other one was was doing heil hitler salutes in in the modern era in 2024. are the police following this up ? this up? >> so the police have never got in touch with me any of >> so the police have never got in touvideos. me any of >> so the police have never got in touvideos. it's any of >> so the police have never got in touvideos. it's very any of >> so the police have never got in touvideos. it's very clearf these videos. it's very clear they've been published by me every video is watermarked and it's very. the police are at speakers corner every single week and i'm not aware of any of any action being taken against either of those individuals. >> the police doing speaker's >> the police doing at speaker's corner. watching corner. well, just watching on so you mentioned woman so you mentioned the woman who got slashed in the face that was actually cut. >> and again, the police were stood straight in of her stood straight in front of her when stabbed the stood straight in front of her whenand stabbed the stood straight in front of her whenand they ;tabbed the stood straight in front of her whenand they aftered the stood straight in front of her whenand they after the the stood straight in front of her whenand they after the act, face. and they after the act, they then slowly respond did. and the perpetrator got away.
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the police were there , a woman the police were there, a woman got stabbed in the face and the police did nothing. i've been there. where police have there. where the police have actually where violence has kicked police have kicked off and the police have moved away it too moved away because it was too much and much for them to control. and speakers corner has a real problem extremistviolence problem of extremist violence and people talk a lot, joseph, about a two tiered policing. >> you're what you're telling me about here is the embodiment of two tier policing, allowing the abuse towards you and other preachers and simply turning a blind eye to that 100. >> i am absolutely positive. had that been a white racist skinhead throwing up a nazi salute or threatening to burn a jew, there would have been a lot of attention on the story. they would have rightfully been arrested just as the individuals we saw should have been picked up we saw should have been picked ”p by we saw should have been picked up by the authorities. but that's not the case because there is two tiered policing, at least in my opinion or my experience comes to the experience when it comes to the enforcing anti—semitism and racism. >> and what does that say to you
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and the jewish community in as far serious menace or the far as the serious menace or the lack of , of policing, of lack of, of policing, of anti—semitism ? um, for me, anti—semitism? um, for me, i feel like the police are almost out of their depth. >> they don't know how to control, um, different forms of racism where some is enforced and others isn't. and as a jewish person, it leaves me vulnerable. it leaves me questioning, do i have a future in this country? is this a place that's going to be safe, to raise family if things raise a family if things continue? since the october the 7th, there's been over 1,300, not 130, 100, 1,300% rise in anti—semitism . um, according to anti—semitism. um, according to the police . and that's the stuff the police. and that's the stuff that's getting reported . and i'm that's getting reported. and i'm not sure i doubt both of those incidents. well, one of them was before october the 7th, but i doubt the second one has been registered or logged. so for registered or logged. and so for such a rise in anti semitism and, and inability to police it, it leaves me and many others questioning do we have a future here? and i feel as english as
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can be. my family have lived here but here for centuries, but i question the future for my for my kids. violet assaults, abuse , my kids. violet assaults, abuse, planned murders , slashing. planned murders, slashing. >> do you fear where this might end? joseph >> um, i think every single person that attends speaker's corner is worried where this may end , and speaker's corner is end, and speaker's corner is almost a microcosm for society because it's a free speech place where different communities, different political ideologies, religious creeds come and engage in intellectual debate and conversation . and it's violence. conversation. and it's violence. every week . every week. >> well, i wish, i wish you were here under happier circumstances, joseph. but um, you know, i want to sort of say no , give you my support. and i'm no, give you my support. and i'm sure people watching will, no, give you my support. and i'm sure this)le watching will, no, give you my support. and i'm sure this)le vto ching will, no, give you my support. and i'm sure this)le vto stop| will, no, give you my support. and i'm sure this)le vto stop . will, no, give you my support. and i'm sure this)le vto stop . if will, no, give you my support. and i'm sure this)le vto stop . if you're too. this has to stop. if you're watching know, you watching this, you know, you know , the police if know, the police force, if you're this and you're you're watching this and you're and you're joseph cohen and you're hearing joseph cohen talking this abuse, talking about this vile abuse, you've evidence talking about this vile abuse, you'on evidence talking about this vile abuse, you'on as evidence talking about this vile abuse, you'on as saidence talking about this vile abuse, you'on as said ,ice talking about this vile abuse, you'on as said , no live on screen, as he said, no doubt if this was a so—called right wing extremist, they'd be
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doing porridge by now. they'd be getting nicked. why aren't these individuals? to be individuals? it needs to be stamped out before something individuals? it needs to be stamped happens re something individuals? it needs to be stamped happens .e something individuals? it needs to be stamped happens . atymething individuals? it needs to be stamped happens . at speaker's dreadful happens. at speaker's corner be a global high corner used to be a global high water mark of freedom of expression. the ability to speak without fear or favour in a free society. it seems to me that is ending. joseph cohen, thank you very much for joining ending. joseph cohen, thank you very much forjoining us and be safe out there . okay? there's safe out there. okay? there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00. we're discussing an embarrassing incident for the royal navy . but first, here's royal navy. but first, here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . martin. polly middlehurst. martin. >> thank you. the top stories this hour. let's bring you the latest developments in the hunt for the suspect chemical attacker abdul ezedi . the attacker abdul ezedi. the metropolitan police says that a 22 year old man has been arrested today on suspicion of assisting an offender. he's since been released on bail this afternoon . soon, and the afternoon. soon, and the metropolitan police has also said it's recovered. the mobile
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phone of abdul ezedi and is now focusing its search on south london. a £20,000 reward still being offered for any information that could lead to his arrest after last week's attack injured a mother and hurt her two young children. police have warned those helping him will face arrest and they've called again for the public's help in tracking him down. meanwhile the defence secretary says the uk won't hesitate to respond to the houthis respond again to the houthis attacks self defence. the attacks in self defence. the prime minister earlier said their illegal campaign on commercial shipping in the red sea is having economic consequences . liz. and in the consequences. liz. and in the united states, the white house says the us plans to launch more airstrikes against iranian backed groups there in the coming days. but yemeni rebel leaders say the latest uk us airstrikes won't stop them from continuing to target ships. airstrikes won't stop them from continuing to target ships . a 14 continuing to target ships. a 14 year old has been charged with the murder of two teenagers in
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bristol last week. he is the seventh person to be charged in connection with the deaths of 15 year old mason rist and 16 year old max dixon. they were stabbed in knowle west at south of the city last weekend and a whole day of snow could be on the way with a yellow weather warning issued for large parts of england and wales for later this week. the met office saying winter weather could lead to disruption, with power cuts and maybe travel delays and that warning running from 3 am. thursday to the same time on friday morning, affecting stretches from cumbria and the scottish borders down to cambridgeshire in the midlands , cambridgeshire in the midlands, in england and all of northern and central wales, including addedin and central wales, including added in that warning. two for the latest on those stories, do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or, if you're listening on radio, go to gb news .com/ alerts . for a
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listening to gb news radio show. >> welcome back. it's 538. you're watching or listen to martin daubney on gb news now. in a few minutes i'll talk about why hundreds of firearms officers have quit the metropolitan police . but now to metropolitan police. but now to the worrying news that hundreds the worrying news that hundreds the same story quit the the same story have quit the police in last few months, police in the last few months, they've resigned after of they've resigned after one of their charged their colleagues was charged with of kaba with the murder of chris kaba kaba died from a single gunshot after being stopped by police in south london. if you recall, in september 2022, well, i'm joined now in the studio by former scotland yard detective peter bleksley. peter, welcome to the show. it's always a pleasure . a show. it's always a pleasure. a lot of people will be looking at this case and thinking, well, you can't blame them. i mean, the police don't seem to have the police don't seem to have the their own gaffers. the backs of their own gaffers. >> a former firearms officer. >> had that gun oil under >> i've had that gun oil under my fingernails gone through the training, years ago, training, albeit many years ago, and face those decisions out on the street. do i pull the
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trigger or don't i? so i'm fairly well placed to understand the frustrations that firearms officers are going through at the moment. and i'd like to make clear this story is very, very different from the story a few weeks ago when armed police officers laid down their weapons and didn't carry out their work. this story today is of about 10% of the entire metro police, armed firearms officer capacity saying this job is no longer for me and simply walking away from that work. >> and that is a lot of armed coppers who don't want to carry guns anymore . and the force has guns anymore. and the force has lost more than 250 authorised officers, is the highest in four years, and a worrying trend. why do you think they're doing it? >> and just to put it into perspective , in the previous perspective, in the previous year they lost 22. so that's a huge increase in the amount of officers not doing it. now every armed fire officer and armed officers carry out very
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different roles. you've got the men and women that are guarding parliament and downing street and royalty and that kind of stuff. armed stuff. you've got the armed response who patrol the response vehicles who patrol the streets 24 hours a day and instantly respond to any kind of incident and are often those who have to end up pulling the trigger, albeit that's rare. and then you've got the counter terrorism specialist firearms officers who are incredibly fit and highly trained for a marauding terrorism attack for example. so different jobs, but but they all understand with without any shadow of a doubt , without any shadow of a doubt, that if they have to pull that trigger , their actions will be trigger, their actions will be scrutinised . and that is not scrutinised. and that is not what they're complaining about. what they are unhappy about, though, is that process of scrutiny . it takes too long. scrutiny. it takes too long. it's not regarded as being independent, and it has a huge impact on officers and their lives. what they want is a fair, fast , lives. what they want is a fair, fast, professional and just system. >> now, peter, i'm no sherlock
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holmes, but losing this many armed coppers surely is a recipe for lawlessness, a recipe that the mob know the police are weaker and that is a recipe for disaster . disaster. >> it could have an impact . but >> it could have an impact. but there again, you see, if we talk about the metropolitan police in broader . terms, unfortunately broader. terms, unfortunately the streets have largely been surrendered to the criminals anyway. many years ago , when the anyway. many years ago, when the police stopped patrols because all those university educated senior officers said , well, you senior officers said, well, you can't measure the effectiveness of a police officer who goes out on the street for eight hours and just walks and talks. they didn't realise that an officer like that could come back into the police station or wash with tea and a wash with information . tea and a wash with information. >> yeah, yeah. and so where's this heading? i mean, have you heard of just utter heard stories of just utter lawlessness embracing lawlessness that's embracing london now? >> every day i hear dreadful stories which involve police inactivity . the worst one that inactivity. the worst one that came my way over the weekend was
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of a restaurant worker who was stabbed twice, once in the neck and once in the face by somebody wielding a very sharp metal pen. the police didn't turn up, but security officers from a company called my local bobby, who patrol in a number of beats and whom i have zero connection with and no financial interest whatsoever either. they turned up and they endeavoured to arrest the man responsible for the stabbing . during that the stabbing. during that struggle, one of the security guards got stabbed in the hand . guards got stabbed in the hand. so now we've got a man who stabbed two people a total of three times. they called the metropolitan police. nobody turns up. so they decide to walk the suspect to leicester square, where they know there are uniformed officers patrolling. they present this person arrested for those stabbings to two uniformed officers from the met who said, we're not going to do anything. take him back to
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his hotel . what? yes. so nothing his hotel. what? yes. so nothing was done. this person who'd stabbed two people should have been arrested and taken to a police station and put in a cell and interviewed and subjected to the entire criminal justice system . two uniformed cops from system. two uniformed cops from the met told the two security guards from the company, my local bobby, to drive him back to a hotel where this person was allegedly staying . allegedly staying. >> peter bleksley. it's not often you'll get me lost for words . i'm often you'll get me lost for words. i'm astonished . yes, i'm words. i'm astonished. yes, i'm astonished that that could happen on british streets and so are many, many people and police officers who proudly served in the met for 30 years or more are now saying, i'm ashamed to say i once worked for that organisation, which remains in special measures. >> now, i'm not taking away from much of the good work that is done, and let's hope the net is tightening on azt this evening. i'm not taking away from the fact that many frontline police officers are dedicated to what
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they do, and for that the public, including me, i'm sure are grateful. but the organisation is a mess. the pubuc organisation is a mess. the public are being failed , the public are being failed, the crooks are getting away with it too far, too many times. >> peter bleksley we have to leave it there, but we have to keep this conversation going. thank so coming in. thank you so much for coming in. i that right? i can't believe that right? northern ireland has a republican first minister for the first time. is it a big step on the road to a united ireland? we'll have that debate next. i'm martin on gb news. just
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radio. >> welcome back. 547 you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now to an embarrassed incident once again for the royal navy. one of its two conventionally powered aircraft carriers , hms queen aircraft carriers, hms queen elizabeth, is unable to take part in a major nato operation due to a mechanical fault . due to a mechanical fault. exercise steadfast defender is
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the largest nato exercise in europe since the cold war. and joining me now is former nato commander and royal navy officer , rear admiral chris parry cbe. thank you for joining , rear admiral chris parry cbe. thank you forjoining us on the thank you for joining us on the show. always a pleasure , chris. show. always a pleasure, chris. chris, first of all, queen elizabeth, hms queen elizabeth can't set sail. elizabeth, hms queen elizabeth can't set sail . we also saw at can't set sail. we also saw at the weekend a number of type 45 cruisers haven't got the right bombs on board because they ran out of money. instead, those ships all filled with treadmills. my question is quite simple. britannia used to rule the waves. and now. now it seems that the navy's reputation has sunk to an all time low . sunk to an all time low. >> evening, martin. yeah, a type 45 destroyers. they weren't fitted with the land attack capability . that was fitted with the land attack capability. that was a fitted with the land attack capability . that was a choice capability. that was a choice based on prioritising its air defence system. there's only so much money every year that goes on these things. and people made the choice at the time. um, i
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was one of those that said this is crazy. um, we can't really have this, you know, the future environment will need these weapons . um, but people who weapons. um, but people who thought they knew better made a different decision then. the fact of life is, martin, is that peace at sea doesn't keep itself and defence doesn't come cheap. and i'm afraid to say , uh, and i'm afraid to say, uh, dunng and i'm afraid to say, uh, during our time in afghanistan, iraq, uh , our navy was iraq, uh, our navy was benchmarked way too low against the sort of opposition we were facing there . uh, i'm afraid facing there. uh, i'm afraid people didn't anticipate that russia and china and iran will come along, despite being warned by most of us. uh, and, uh, in an electoral, uh, democracy, all people think about is probably the next election . they don't the next election. they don't think about the strategic context out to the future and what will be required . what will be required. >> and chris, we've also seen the backdrop of a 22% decline in navy and royal marines recruits. so few, in fact , they're so few, in fact, they're decommissioning ships. so few, in fact, they're decommissioning ships . what's decommissioning ships. what's the answer to this? i mean, there's rumours of some more
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budget being found and we send billions to ukraine. why not spend it on our own navy ? well spend it on our own navy? well it's all about choices . it's all about choices. >> i'm afraid our politicians don't think there are many votes in defence. so i'm afraid every yearit in defence. so i'm afraid every year it gets cut. and the problem is they say they go for the tail rather than the teeth. but, uh, if you cut the tail too much, the teeth fall out anyway because to gums . and because you get to the gums. and i'm afraid, uh, we're at that point now. they've point now. now they've underinvested the royal navy. underinvested in the royal navy. they the integrated they new in the integrated review in 2019 that we would prioritise our maritime based capability . prioritise our maritime based capability. uh, and i'm afraid they failed to invest. there's a critical lack of strategic . uh, critical lack of strategic. uh, appreciation . they haven't appreciation. they haven't balanced the outcomes. they want with the means. that's the resources available and the military i'm military practicality. uh, i'm afraid those of us afraid to say that those of us who've i'm afraid , sniping who've been. i'm afraid, sniping from the sidelines have been saying for the last 15 years that unless you invest in our capability people . it'll
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capability in our people. it'll all wither on the vine. and you'll simply be going through the motions and we've seen, i'm afraid, carriers, afraid, with our carriers, uh, the , i suspect, uh, the the design, i suspect, uh, the manufacture and the maintenance routines mean that you've got essentially a civilian design going to sea as a warship, and you always get failures like this. i'm afraid if you do it on the cheap, if you put cheap components in, they're going to fail. uh, you know, i joined the navy ages ago . fail. uh, you know, i joined the navy ages ago. um, uh, fail. uh, you know, i joined the navy ages ago . um, uh, people navy ages ago. um, uh, people will say the mary rose, but, uh, no , i joined the navy a long no, i joined the navy a long time ago, which was stress tested . practically every tested. practically every component that we had. we used to joke that even even the cushions were designed to withstand a £1,000 bomb. um, we don't do that anymore. we go for the cheapest option. i once sat next to one of the crew that went to the moon in 1969, and i said to him, you know what do you what do you remember most of all about that trip? and he said, you know what? we were lying down in capsule
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lying upside down in the capsule waiting to blast off in 1969. and neil armstrong said to me, he said, do you realise every component in this has gone to the bidder? just before the lowest bidder? just before they blasted off for the moon ? they blasted off for the moon? but you know what? feels like but you know what? it feels like that we're underinvesting, that now we're underinvesting, we're doing things on the cheap, both personnel and our both with our personnel and our equipment. this is what you get. >> and chris, as well as a financial lack of focus, do you think there's a sort of philosophical lack of focus? war's very unfashionable , isn't war's very unfashionable, isn't it? in the modern day, they'd rather focus on climate change, on net zero, and even on the recruitment. it all seems to be about lgbt. q and damn, the white working classes who fought generations of war both in the armed forces and all in the navy, of course, is this now payback time for successive governments have simply taken their eye off the right priorities ? priorities? >> well, martin, in my own view , >> well, martin, in my own view, is that successively, the sort of things that made the survey pcs different, the ability to give them good accommodation,
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good allowances, making it easy for them to travel rather than have to go for in a car, for example, have just been eroded. they've chipped away at practically everything that makes different and makes the job different and distinctive and i'm afraid to say the good will, uh, with which people join the armed forces, the goodwill that says, look, we'll go the extra mile. we'll risk our lives and our limbs for our country that's just been eroded. um, you know, people don't join the forces primarily for the pay or the allowances . they they join the allowances. they they join the best, best. do they join to, uh, serve their country, look after the people whom they love? um, but there comes a point where if you make life difficult, so difficult for people who spend a lot of their time at sea , away lot of their time at sea, away from home, they just say, look, why would i bother? um i have to say, the best recruiting sergeant is a war. and uh, if you have a armed forces that look as if they mean business, they're respected around the world. their respected by the british people . people will british people. people will join. it's as simple as that.
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but right now, uh, to use the sort of young parlance people are disrespecting, disrespecting our armed forces. uh, you know, i see every saturday, citizens of this country actually wanting people to attack british servicemen and women in the red sea. i mean, it's ridiculous situation. and if we don't get . situation. and if we don't get. the political courage to say this is unacceptable, double. and need to actually support and we need to actually support our nobody's going and we need to actually support oujoin nobody's going and we need to actually support oujoin the nobody's going and we need to actually support oujoin the armediobody's going and we need to actually support oujoin the armed forces. s going to join the armed forces. >> think you're absolutely >> i think you're absolutely right. um, thank you for joining us on the show. former nato commander navy commander and royal navy officer, admiral chris officer, rear admiral chris parry cbe. it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. i think he's bang on. um peter bleksley said earlier on that the police are simply giving up, giving up the battle. the navy giving up lack of money, lack of focus , lack of money, lack of focus, lack of priorities is that the way this country is heading ? meanwhile, country is heading? meanwhile, we've we've been talking about endless people claiming asylum , endless people claiming asylum, loathes. talk about dewbs& co after me. i'll be back tomorrow. 3 to 6. i've been martin daubney
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michelle >> thank you. i can tell you we will have some significant breaking news coming to us from buckingham palace very shortly. we don't have any detail on exactly what that news is so far, but we do know it concerns a member of the royal family. let's take you live then, to buckingham palace and talk to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker, who is standing for walker, who is standing by for us. cameron, what are you heanng? >> polly, i've just received a statement from buckingham palace . i'm going to read it out. it says during the king's recent hospital procedure for benign prostate enlargement, a separate
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