reason, you if you go for one reason, you might discover something else . might discover something else. before i start the show , let's before i start the show, let's go to polly middlehurst with a news bulletin . news bulletin. >> good evening. you're with gb news and if you're just tuning in, let's reiterate that news that's just come to us all in the last hour. his majesty the king. king charles the third has been diagnosed , we're told, with been diagnosed, we're told, with a form of cancer where the diagnosis comes following successful treatment for an enlarged prostate during which a separate issue of concern was noted by his surgeon as well. as you can imagine , many have been you can imagine, many have been wishing the king well online. the prime minister has wished his majesty a full and speedy recovery, and said he'll no doubt be back to full strength in no time and the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has said on behalf of his party i wish his majesty all the very best for his recovery. the king

is due to step back from his role as monarch as he begins a schedule of treatment , although schedule of treatment, although we understand he will continue to undertake official paperwork , to undertake official paperwork, his doctors have advised him to cancel public facing duties and the king has chosen to share his diagnosis to prevent speculation, hoping at the same time it may well hope those all around the world who are affected by cancer well, the other bit of breaking news that we learned in the last half hour is that a source close to the duke of sussex says he has spoken with his father about the cancer diagnosis and will travel to the united kingdom to see him in the coming days. we also understand prince william and prince harry learned of their father's cancer diagnosis directly from the king himself . directly from the king himself. us .

us. gb news. >> we were told late this afternoon that a major statement would be issued by buckingham palace at 6:00 this evening, and it certainly was a major statement. let's just go through it right now. a statement from buckingham palace during the king's recent hospital procedure for benign prostrate enlargement, said a separate issue of concern was noted. subsequent diagnostic tests have identified a form of cancer. his majesty has today commenced a schedule of regular treatments , schedule of regular treatments, dufing schedule of regular treatments, during which time he is being advised by doctors to postpone pubuc advised by doctors to postpone public facing duties. advised by doctors to postpone public facing duties . throughout public facing duties. throughout this period , his majesty will this period, his majesty will continue to undertake state business and official paperwork as usual , the king is grateful as usual, the king is grateful to his medical team for their swift intervention, which was made possible thanks to his recent hospital procedure. he remains wholly positive about

his treatment and looks forward to returning to full public duty as soon as possible. his majesty has chosen to share his diagnosis to prevent speculation and in the hope it may assist pubuc and in the hope it may assist public understanding for all those around the world who are affected by cancer . well, that's affected by cancer. well, that's the statement that was issued by buckingham palace at 6:00 this evening. the first and i think the most important thing to say is from me , from gb news viewers is from me, from gb news viewers and from i'm sure, many hundreds of millions of people around the world. we wish king charles well . we hope the treatment that he goes through is not too unpleasant, and that he can make a full recovery . but i've no a full recovery. but i've no doubt that it is quite a serious situation indeed . according to situation indeed. according to the press association , talking the press association, talking about harry, the duke of sussex, the duke did speak to his father

about his diagnosis as he will be travelling to the uk to see his majesty in the coming days. the source, close to harry said so prince harry, on his way, some sort of rapprochement, i guess, between the two of them . guess, between the two of them. but i think the problem for buckingham palace and for the king, other than the personal trial that the king is about to go through , is that this go through, is that this statement that says his majesty has chosen to share his diagnosis to prevent speculation 7 diagnosis to prevent speculation .7 and diagnosis to prevent speculation ? and i diagnosis to prevent speculation .7 and i think that is just not the case. we understand there was an enlarged prostate. that's what he went in to have a medical procedure on. something else was discovered . and there's else was discovered. and there's a lesson there, i suppose , for a lesson there, i suppose, for all of us that if you do go and have regular medical tests, if you're able to , then you never you're able to, then you never know what might be uncovered. and the earlier you catch things , the better it is . but far from

, the better it is. but far from preventing speculation , i preventing speculation, i suspect over the course of the next days and weeks , there'll be next days and weeks, there'll be a huge number of questions as to what the nature of the particular cancer is following diagnostic tests is what they said. i also think there'll be speculation in terms of what stage the cancer is at, and when it refers to his treatment. again, it doesn't tell us whether that is radial therapy, whether that is radial therapy, whether that is chemotherapy . so whether that is chemotherapy. so i think in some ways what this statement does is it actually raises more questions than it gives answers . and i would gives answers. and i would expect starting tomorrow, our newspapers will be wall to wall in terms of this speculation. and i suspect that buckingham palace will have to give us more details over the course of the next few days. now i'm going to

go now, live to buckingham palace to be joined by cameron walker, gb news royal correspondent. well, cameron , correspondent. well, cameron, you and i spoke earlier on this afternoon as you rushed off to the palace . we knew this was the palace. we knew this was going to be a pretty major statement, didn't . we.7 statement, didn't. we.7 >> statement, didn't. we? >> yeah, we absolutely did, nigel. and it's a hugely difficult balance for buckingham palace because on the one hand he is a private individual who has a right to keep his medical details private. but on the other he is our head of state and therefore there is a legitimate public interest in knowing the health of our sovereign . and you talk of sovereign. and you talk of a speculation , and is this just speculation, and is this just going to fuel speculation , the going to fuel speculation, the fact that they haven't told us exactly what type of cancer the king has, or indeed, what stage ? king has, or indeed, what stage? what i have been told is that it is not prostate cancer. if you remember a few weeks ago, he went into hospital for treatment on an enlarged prostate , which on an enlarged prostate, which buckingham palace at the time said was benign. and it was

dufing said was benign. and it was during that treatment that doctors discovered this separate issue. now he's going to be treated as an outpatient, so he's not going to be spending any more nights in hospital at this stage . he is any more nights in hospital at this stage. he is in any more nights in hospital at this stage . he is in london this stage. he is in london tonight. the royal standard is flying above buckingham palace and house, and clarence and clarence house, and clarence house staying. house is where he is staying. i'm told that no counsellors of state are required now. they are members of the royal family over the age of 21, in the line of succession, you can deputise on behalf of the king. if the king is not well enough carry out is not well enough to carry out his duties. i'm his constitutional duties. i'm told not necessary. told that is not necessary. tonight and they're not expecting to necessary expecting it to be necessary throughout so he throughout his treatment so he can through his red can still go through his red boxes, sign government papers. i'm the prime minister i'm told that the prime minister was advance notice of this was given advance notice of this statement from buckingham palace, and he is expected to continue with his weekly audience with his majesty the king. and the king does hope to still attend privy council meetings as well, although it's understood that clearly , if the understood that clearly, if the medical advice changes, i suspect provisions will be made

for the king to perhaps do some of those meetings. uh, over virtually at least. but in terms of the public duties, they are off the table for now. queen camilla is expected to continue with her public duties alongside supporting the king. i'm also told that prince william could well be asked to deputise on behalf of the king, or represent the king on some of the engagements which were originally going to be for his majesty . but then, of course, majesty. but then, of course, the perhaps something that was slightly surprising to was slightly surprising to me was this quote from the duke this source quote from the duke of sussex released to the press association, saying that he has not only spoken to his father, the on the phone, uh, he is the king on the phone, uh, he is also plans travel to also making plans to travel to london to see the king. of course, they have not been on the best of terms. let's be frank, nigel. over the last few years, the last time they saw each other, although they didn't speak, was coronation it speak, was the coronation it looks like kind of olive looks like some kind of olive branch extended. of branch has been extended. and of course, highlights the course, it highlights the seriousness king's cancer seriousness of the king's cancer diagnosis. fact that diagnosis. the fact that prince harry, estranged son, is

harry, the estranged son, is flying atlantic to be flying across the atlantic to be by his side, and prince william, of course, has ever is in regular contact with his majesty. yes >> and you mentioned there rishi sunak the minister, who sunak the prime minister, who did statement saying did issue a statement saying wishing his majesty a full and speedy recovery , i have no doubt speedy recovery, i have no doubt he'll be back to full strength in no time. and i know the whole country will be wishing him well. you make the point , well. you make the point, cameron, that the king is perfectly fit to continue with his constitutional duties. but not his public facing duties. and that means travelling around and opening wings of hospitals and opening wings of hospitals and all the things that the king and all the things that the king and other members of the royal family do. but the trouble is, you know, after all these years of discussing a slimmed down monarchy, we now actually have one, don't we? because the sussexes have gone there in america, we have we have the princess of wales, who's undergone major surgery and who we understand will not be able to undertake any public duties until easter. um, this is going

to be a very major problem over the next few weeks, isn't it ? the next few weeks, isn't it? yeah certainly is, nigel. >> and it's really highlighting the fragility of a slimmed down monarchy . and in fact, princess monarchy. and in fact, princess anne, during an interview she did for the coronation with canadian television channel, said that the idea of a slimmed down monarchy was was thought about at the time when there was about at the time when there was a few more people around, i.e. queen elizabeth prince queen elizabeth ii, prince philip very sadly no longer with us.then philip very sadly no longer with us. then we had duke and us. then we had the duke and duchess sussex back duchess of sussex stepped back as members the royal as working members of the royal family to california. family travelled to california. prince of course, been prince andrew's, of course, been forced step in disgrace. forced to step down in disgrace. but top of that, we've but then on top of that, we've now had these medical now had all these medical diagnoses, princess of diagnoses, sees the princess of wales is out of action until at least easter. prince william, the of wales , is only the prince of wales, is only going be continuing with going to be continuing with pubuc going to be continuing with public duties as of tomorrow . public duties as of tomorrow. no.and public duties as of tomorrow. no. and perhaps in the coming days, we will see him take on a bit more of a role as heir apparent and indeed the son of the king and the next king, and

of course, supported by the other members of the royal family, but the other working members, nigel, are all in their 60s, 70s and apart from the 60s, 70s and 80s, apart from the duke and duchess edinburgh, duke and duchess of edinburgh, who close to their 60s. who are very close to their 60s. so they're all close to retirement age. so we're really running working royals at running out of working royals at the moment. >> no, we really are. >> yeah, no, we really are. cameron, thank we'll come cameron, thank you. we'll come back you later on in the back to you later on in the programme. well, joined now programme. well, i'm joined now down the line by michael cole. former bbc royal commentator . former bbc royal commentator. and michael are someone that knows charles pretty well. um, just like a personal statement to begin from, you . to begin from, you. >> well, nigel, first of all, i think you are. you and cameron have summarised the situation brilliantly at very, very short notice. i'd like to echo and associate myself with your kind and generous and loyal sentiments that you expressed on your own behalf, and those of gb news and of our viewers to his majesty the queen. the king, because , um, let's be frank because, um, let's be frank about it, this is big news. it's

bad news. it's grave news. it could hardly be worse . and as could hardly be worse. and as you have rightly said, there will be speculation . but i will be speculation. but i believe that , um. uh, we must believe that, um. uh, we must commend, uh, his majesty the king for his candour in this case, which has, uh, distinguished the statements that have come from the very , that have come from the very, very, very beginning of this episode, this sad episode and thatis episode, this sad episode and that is contrasting very strongly with the past, when obfuscation was the order of the day with royal health statements and indeed, in the past, lots of barefaced lies . the king and indeed, in the past, lots of barefaced lies. the king has least come out, and he's made it clear to good effect what was, uh , what was wrong, what was uh, what was wrong, what was happening, and what the future was. uh and we know now , uh, was. uh and we know now, uh, what has happened. the dreaded word, as you say, cancer . what has happened. the dreaded word, as you say, cancer. but i hope he might take some small comfort from the fact that

actually, he's been even closer to death than he is tonight, because when he was 12 years old in 1962, uh, he had a very, very hot appendix and he was rushed to great ormond street hospital . to great ormond street hospital. uh, it was made quite light at the time, but he was very close to death because when a burst appendix happened in those days, peritonitis set in blood poisoning and death was often the result. but that was all, uh, done very nicely at the time. a long time ago. now, of course, he's facing a new challenge, and it's it is a very, very difficult moment for him. it's a difficult moment for the country. and i can't say. and of course, i haven't always been his greatest fan in the past, but i think he's started brilliantly as king. he's had only just over a year and a half as monarch, and it's terribly bad. fortune for this to have hit him at this particular moment. there we see him coming out of hospital looking very

cheery with queen camilla waving to the people and putting a very best foot forward . then, of best foot forward. then, of course, we didn't know that this other cancerous element has been discovered during the surgery for an enlarged prostate. we don't know what it is. there will be lots of speculation. maybe the palace will feel it's, um, obligated to give us more information in in due course . information in in due course. and i feel very, very sorry for the man because he waited 70 years for this opportunity to be king. yeah, it does actually make me think that, you know, in history , the name charles was history, the name charles was always regarded as rather an unlucky name in the royal family. king charles the first lost his head. of course, he was executed in whitehall hall by the axeman's blade. um, king charles ii never had any legitimate heirs, and for that reason the name charles was not a favourite one within the house of windsor. but anyway, he was he was christened charles. and,

uh, here he is as king charles the third. we can only wish him well. uh it has been said, and i think there is some justice in that that it's a good thing that this has been caught early. uh, but , you know, nobody ever wants but, you know, nobody ever wants to have , have, have cancer and to have, have, have cancer and i think you made the point earlier andifs think you made the point earlier and it's a jolly good one that when people go in for something, they then find something else. i have to say to introduce a personal note. uh, last tuesday, i had an i. a routine eye exam and i came out finding that i had a cataract on my left eye, which i had no idea about. so i'm now on the cataract pathway to have it removed. well, that of course, is a minor matter compared with what his majesty the king is now facing. and as you said so eloquently earlier, we can only wish him well and a speedy recovery . and in the speedy recovery. and in the meantime, he will be carrying out his duties as head of state. uh, having the red boxes, signing the acts of parliament

and doing everything else that is required, which is what he would wish to do . would wish to do. >> no, absolutely. michael and i agree with you. you know, he waited for the best part of 70 years. uh, the coronation only seems like yesterday . and here seems like yesterday. and here we are with this problem . i just we are with this problem. i just getting back to how frank he's going to be with the country. you know, when we were told that it a prostate problem and it was a prostate problem and large prostate. and wondered large prostate. and i wondered then did need that much then did we need that much information? argument then did we need that much inf0|made n? argument then did we need that much inf0|made to argument then did we need that much inf0|made to me argument then did we need that much inf0|made to me (forcefully was made to me very forcefully that, actually , he you know, that, no, actually, he you know, the king talking about it may well other people with well encourage other people with problems to come forward. and i, i bought that , i bought into i bought that, i bought into that. yeah. but in contrast, you know, the united states, you know, the united states, you know, the united states, you know, the states are know, the united states are better most, you know, better than most, you know, american better than american presidents better than almost anybody. >> and you will know that even if it's in the constitution, >> and you will know that even if itamericansie constitution, >> and you will know that even if itamericans have|stitution, >> and you will know that even if itamericans have a itution, >> and you will know that even if itamericans have a rightn, >> and you will know that even if itamericans have a right to the americans have a right to know everything about the health of the president . almost too of the president. almost too much detail is given , you know, much detail is given, you know, the, uh, blood pressure figures and all the rest of it. now that

is the american way of doing things. everything is out there . things. everything is out there. uh, that's there there way of being. and i admire it. i think for the king and for the royal family to have moved as far as possible down that route is only a good thing. people are more and more used to. i mean, people used to hide. i mean, people used to hide. i mean, people used to hide. i mean, people used to shudder at the word cancen used to shudder at the word cancer. people are now more and more prepared to share with other people, uh, their ailments . i'm not quite sure that i am, but many people are , and they but many people are, and they take comfort from this . and i take comfort from this. and i think it's to be commended . i think it's to be commended. i think it's to be commended. i think if he was, uh , hiding it think if he was, uh, hiding it all, it would. it would then not look good. and he's essentially essentially what he's doing. he's taking the country with him. he's 75. we always knew it wouldn't be a hugely long reign. and i think he's got nothing to lose and a lot to gain by bringing us all with him there. we see him in there wearing the ties of the guards brigade, him

with his his sons, and to hear that prince harry is coming back, well, one can only say not before time. perhaps he's really seized what is important in life and what is important in life is the people you love most. and when they're in trouble, you come and support them and absolutely, michael cole, as even absolutely, michael cole, as ever, thank you for joining me. >> now, a statement has been issued by macmillan cancer support, which says our thoughts are with his majesty the king and his family. we are sending our best wishes at what we know must be an incredibly challenging time. the king has been a long standing supporter of macmillan, becoming patron of the charity in 1997. well, i'm joined by rafe heydel—mankoo royal commentator and historian . royal commentator and historian. ralph, good evening. if we go back through history, the monarch's being unwell, historically not unusual . historically not unusual. >> not unusual at all. i mean, the major difference, of course, and we have to also remember that if we to believe what that if we are to believe what was charles recent

was in charles brands recent book on the queen, the queen, too, may have had bone cancer as well. certainly. and of well. so certainly. and of course we know that the her late father, king george the sixth, suffered cancer. suffered from lung cancer. so certainly of certainly there is a history of cancer within the royal family. but course this goes the but of course this goes to the broader issue of we have an ageing monarchy because of medicine and technology . medicine and technology. monarchs are living for far longer than they used to. and so health issues are now a much more prevalent factor of life for members of royal family for members of the royal family as seen with with the duke as we've seen with with the duke of first and then the of edinburgh first and then the queen course, with queen and now, of course, with with king charles. and of course, as you were discussing earlier, does raise serious course, as you were discussing earlier aboutes raise serious course, as you were discussing earlier about the|ise serious course, as you were discussing earlier about the king's ious course, as you were discussing earlier about the king's decision issues about the king's decision to slim down the monarchy. a very sensible idea first broached. >> it looks to be >> it now looks to be impossible. well, of course we have remember it did involve have to remember it did involve prince andrew playing part, prince andrew playing a part, and course, the duke and and of course, the duke and duchess sussex. and of course, the duke and ducnow, sussex. and of course, the duke and ducnow, this jssex. and of course, the duke and ducnow, this is;ex. and of course, the duke and ducnow, this is about a 10 to 15 >> now, this is about a 10 to 15 year problem to a degree, because we're all waiting for year problem to a degree, bec childrenre all waiting for year problem to a degree, bec children ofall waiting for year problem to a degree, bec children of princeting for year problem to a degree, bec children of prince william the children of prince william to of when they can to become of age when they can take some of that burden. but

take up some of that burden. but there's a possibility now, at this stage for perhaps the king's nephews and nieces to take up the stance here, because of course, we have princess beatrice and eugenie who have performed and functions in the past royals. now they past as working royals. now they live abroad or between live primarily abroad or between new london. so whether new york and london. so whether they take those they want to take up those duties, but also there are the children of prince edward, prince current prince edward, the current duke of edinburgh, and within the next 10 years we could next 5 to 10 years we could easily see them beginning to take they don't use the take up roles they don't use the title prince princess, title of prince and princess, but they both are legally under law. royal highnesses. and so they could be they could be seen. are possible seen. so there are possible avenues. gap here, but avenues. there's a gap here, but there's gap. it's at least a there's a gap. it's at least a 5 to 10 year gap. and of course the dukes of kent and gloucester are now, you know, approaching 80 and 80 and 90 respectively. and they've taken back seat. so they've taken a back seat. so there's little, um, there's really very little, um, room monarchy . and room left for the monarchy. and the has to be seen. and the monarchy has to be seen. and to be doing good. you to be seen to be doing good. you know, thing to be head know, it's one thing to be head of state, but the monarchy is also of the nation. and as also head of the nation. and as head nation, it's the head of the nation, it's the supreme champion of duty. supreme champion of civic duty. so to be seen across the

so it has to be seen across the length and breadth this length and breadth of this nation, centres and nation, opening centres and hospitals, girl hospitals, visiting the girl guides kitchens. really guides and soup kitchens. really basically being able to give attention to the unsung heroes of britain . and unfortunately, of britain. and unfortunately, a slimmed monarchy simply slimmed down monarchy simply isn't to fulfil that isn't able to fulfil that functional role because we're far larger than belgium or denmark or norway . so we can't denmark or norway. so we can't be a bicycling monarchy with our size of population and there's never been precedent never been a precedent for a monarch unwell stepping down. >> they always continue in their role the very end . and, role right to the very end. and, um, although counsellors of state can be appointed if the king to undergo very serious king had to undergo very serious medical treatment, he would then appoint a counsellor of state. wouldn't he explain to the wouldn't he just explain to the viewers what that actually means? >> so luckily, as far as we know, the king's current treatment require him treatment will not require him to in any way to be incapacitated in any way whatsoever. but under the regency act, if the king is ever incapacitated due to ill health orindeed incapacitated due to ill health or indeed is out of the country and unable to fulfil his duties, then one of his counsellors of state can step in. well, two of them have work together to

them have to work together to step to behalf of his step in, to act on behalf of his majesty. those are basically majesty. and those are basically the spouse of the monarch. and the spouse of the monarch. and the next four in the line of succession. the king succession. although the king has increased numbers to has has increased the numbers to include sister princess include his sister princess anne, and also prince edward , anne, and also prince edward, now the duke of york, prince andrew and the duke of sussex, prince harry are also in this list of counsellors of state, but it was announced in the house of lords in november 2022 that only working royals can actually fulfil those functions, which excludes them. but in terms of abdication, the point you earlier. yeah, i mean you raised earlier. yeah, i mean , the king is very much his , the king is very much like his mother. know, was born mother. you know, he was born into age of empire, and he into the age of empire, and he really regarded the coronation as job for life, as a sacrament, a job for life, one you step down one that you don't step down now, know that prince william now, we know that prince william doesn't have the same sort of spiritual attachment to the idea of crown and church of of the crown and the church of england and so forth. so i wouldn't surprised. pure wouldn't be surprised. it's pure speculation william, speculation if prince william, when king, to when he becomes king, decides to follow european model. we follow the european model. we even have popes now abdicating. i was going to say so , which had i was going to say so, which had never happened before, because

if about it, the if you think about it, the monarchy always been at its monarchy has always been at its strongest when captured strongest when it's captured youth young princess youth or the young princess victoria, princess victoria, the young princess elizabeth prince may elizabeth and prince william may realise, gosh, we're going to have series of very have a series of very middle aged monarchs future, aged monarchs in the future, unless we start this unless perhaps we start this tradition. whether tradition. i don't know whether that's to be the case or that's going to be the case or not, it's interesting thing. >> so really, really is. >> so it really, really is. well, ralph, thank you for joining and don't away. joining us. and don't run away. well, down the line well, i'm joined down the line now the former royal now by the former royal correspondent of the sun, charles and charles. i'm i'm charles rea and charles. i'm i'm kind thinking i'm kind of kind of thinking i'm kind of thinking that there's going to be there will be an be i suspect there will be an enormous outpouring of public support and goodwill for king charles. >> oh, i totally agree with you, nigel. i think it's starting to come in already. you know, the, uh, twitter or x where it's now called, it's already filled with people wishing their, um, good wishes the king, wishes for the king, which i think the only right thing to think is the only right thing to do. the ones do. let's ignore all the ones who want to have a go at the monarchy and everything else,

and want bring it down and and want to bring it down and talking about their private medical , uh, situation all medical, uh, situation and all that stuff . i think that sort of stuff. i think this was shock tonight. this was was a shock tonight. this was a very, very big shock tonight because assumed that when we because we assumed that when we saw the king leave the hospital after having his, uh, enlarged prostate dealt with that, he was all smiles and, uh, and everything else, and he was waving the same as yesterday. uh, he was at sandringham going to church with the queen. all smiles again and waving again. so all just thought , yeah, so we all just thought, yeah, he's getting on with it. and so this, announcement tonight this, this announcement tonight is huge shock . and the only is a huge shock. and the only great thing about it is that it appears, whatever the cancer is has been caught early and, you know, any doctor, any surgeon will tell you the earlier they can this sort of thing, can catch this sort of thing, the the prognosis for the the better the prognosis for the for the future. uh, so for the, for the future. uh, so that's good positive news. that's all good positive news. >> yeah. that is i mean, absolutely. charles and i say i'm going to reemphasize yet again going for medals, again that going for medals, going for medical going going for medical tests, going for tests can often for diagnostic tests can often uncover other things. didn't

uncover other things. you didn't know therefore, if know about. and therefore, if you the chance, folks go and you get the chance, folks go and have these things done. i wonder , though, charles, mean , you , though, charles, i mean, you know, he is 75 years old and clearly it's going to be out of for action a period of time. does this and you mentioned earlier those on x that don't wish the king well does this, does this fuel in your opinion, does this fuel in your opinion, does this fuel those . and they does this fuel those. and they may they may be few in number, but they're quite loud in voice . but they're quite loud in voice. doesit but they're quite loud in voice. does it fuel those you know , does it fuel those you know, fighting for effectively republic. >> yes. it it does. >> you'll always have the, those , those who want to support a republic will come out and say, this is time for him to stand down. he's 75, he's got cancer. we don't know how long it's going to be. and we need we need a change. but i think we should just ignore those sort of people because they look for any, any excuse happens in the royal excuse that happens in the royal family their, for family for, for their, for their, , uh, propaganda to their, um, uh, propaganda to

come out, uh, you know, all the way through. so i think we should just ignore them and just carry our king the carry on wishing our king the very best wishes . very best wishes. >> yeah. no, i think that's right. i i believe right. as i say, i believe there's going to a huge there's going to be a huge outpouring of public for outpouring of public support for the king. um, but, charles, one point i must i must, you know, ask you when the king said he was going in for benign prostate enlargement problems and going for a procedure, we were shocked by the sheer frankness of discussing his medical condition in that level of detail. this particular statement, you know, uses the dreaded word cancer. and it is still a dreaded word, i think, for all of us in every family in the country. but then it doesn't tell us exactly what cancerit it doesn't tell us exactly what cancer it is. it doesn't tell us at what stage it's at. it doesn't tell us what kind of treatment he's having. and as an old newspaper man , charles, i'm old newspaper man, charles, i'm going to put it to you that i

think in some ways this statement asks more questions than it answers us. aren't we about to head into, you know, a massive period of speculation and demands from the palace that if they were as open about the prostate problem, why can't they tell us more? well i think we saw with the, the fact that the princess of wales went, uh, you know, and undergone major surgery . surgery. >> there was all sorts of speculation about what could it be and why was it happening and everything. and i suspect it's going to be exactly the same thing again. we also have to remember that he is entitled, like you and i and all the viewers and all the all the listeners your medical listeners that your medical records medical records and your medical diagnoses are private matters and you it is up to you if you want to discuss those in public, then it's up to you to do that. now we may get something from the palace that will may explain what type of cancer it is. we

may not, and that won't stop the speculation. i'm sure that tomorrow morning and various television documentaries and programs will have a variety of, uh , cancer specialists saying uh, cancer specialists saying things. well, if it is lung cancen things. well, if it is lung cancer, the sake of argument if it is such and such of other cancen it is such and such of other cancer. so we can't stop that, that will happen. but it is down to the king himself to decide whether or not he wants any more details. he shared all the information with his family and thatis information with his family and that is the right thing to do. and he doesn't have to share it with anyone else. >> now, maybe the clue charles is in there somewhere, following diagnostic tests, which probably took to come back. took a few days to come back. charles rea as ever, thank you for joining me on the program. forjoining me on the program. let's head back to buckingham palace . uh, and speak to cameron palace. uh, and speak to cameron walker, gb news royal correspondent. cameron, people tuning in all the time. correspondent. cameron, people tuning in all the time . just tuning in all the time. just a quick recap as to what happened at 6:00 this evening. please >> yeah, absolutely. nigel so

buckingham palace released a fairly lengthy statement at 6:00 confirming that the king had been diagnosed with a form of cancen been diagnosed with a form of cancer. it's understood that it is not prostate cancer. if you remember a few weeks ago , his remember a few weeks ago, his majesty was receiving treatment in hospital for an enlarged prostate, which was benign . and prostate, which was benign. and from my understanding, it was dufing from my understanding, it was during that treatment that doctors discovered this other issue to his majesty travelled from sandringham . we saw him. from sandringham. we saw him. he's on a number of the front pages this morning. uh, attending the church service at sandringham yesterday alongside her majesty the queen. he's travelled back to london this morning and has started his outpatient treatment. so that means that he's going to be going into hospital to receive treatment, but he's not going to be staying the night. the royal standard above standard is flying above buckingham and clarence buckingham palace and clarence house, and he is not expected to stay overnight in hospital. um, dufing stay overnight in hospital. um, during this kind of treatment that he has been receiving . but that he has been receiving. but clearly it's a very significant

and serious diagnosis. that's the palace perhaps felt compelled to give us this information because on the one hand, of course, uh, it's private medical information. he has a right to privacy, but he's also head of state. and a lot more questions would be asked if he wasn't turning up to public engagements, which he is postponing for being . postponing for the time being. >> that's right. >> well, cameron. that's right. and down and look, you've been down there outside palace for a couple outside the palace for a couple of hours. you've been with the press pack , you who were press pack, you know, who were all this statement all waiting for this statement at 6:00. do you take the point that i'm making that he was incredibly frank about the enlarged prostate and the procedure , and that actually by procedure, and that actually by saying the king's got cancer and he's undergoing treatment , there he's undergoing treatment, there is now going to be acres of speculation. and i think huge pressure on the palace to tell us more . us more. >> us more. >> yeah, there certainly is . but >> yeah, there certainly is. but it reminds me of the summer and september of 2022. nigel, where the palace were pretty silent when it came to the health of

her late majesty queen elizabeth ii, and it appears to be the opposite, with king charles. he's chosen to , uh, tell us he's chosen to, uh, tell us about the enlarged prostate diagnosis to encourage other members of the to public seek medical advice if they are experiencing symptoms and again, with this cancer diagnosis, he didn't have to tell us anything, but he chose to do so. it's understood that, of course, it's not prostate cancer. it's a separate issue. and he's going to be receiving treatment at home. but clearly, i think you're right. home. but clearly, i think you're right . a lot more you're right. a lot more questions. we've got this evening than perhaps we do answers. there is some positive news that in the statement, as you saw, the king is remaining positive. but he's very much continuing with his constitutional duties behind the scenes with those government red boxes, council meetings, boxes, privy council meetings, meeting prime minister meeting the prime minister weekly. we're not going to weekly. but we're not going to see him in public for some time. oh, no. >> absolutely. cameron walker, thank very much indeed. thank you very much indeed. cameron there from cameron walker there from buckingham palace, our royal correspondent. let's get some political reaction. kevin

foster, member of parliament, conservative for torbay , was conservative for torbay, was originally coming in. let's talk about . but we've put all about rwanda. but we've put all of that. put all of that of that. we've put all of that to the back of the queue. this really was a bit of a bombshell announcement, wasn't it? >> and all our thoughts >> it was. and all our thoughts will the king and his will be with the king and his family this evening. i think we're seeing the sort of outpouring of support and affection for him he is, affection for him because he is, you is the head of you know, he is the head of state and very much the head embodiment of the nation. so people be concerned in people will be concerned here in the we shouldn't the news. but also we shouldn't rush to, you know, be think the worst you know, we worst either. you know, we should that those, for should remember that those, for example, bowel example, with things like bowel cancer diagnosed at the earliest stages, nine out ten people cancer diagnosed at the earliest stag�*consistently ten people cancer diagnosed at the earliest stag�*consistently complete iple now consistently complete treatment. not know, treatment. so it's not you know, i was with my mum about 13 i was there with my mum about 13 years ago she years ago when she got a diagnosis. she went in for something else. and this that was what similar situation up. so and you know you get that call. it's natural to worry. you know we all do about our parents. there'll be people sat at tonight who this will be at home tonight who this will be bringing back difficult bringing back some difficult memories own

memories with their own families. but also i think the memories with their own familimessagelso i think the memories with their own familimessage that think the come other message that needs to come out and i know my mum out of this, and i know my mum was and you've already said it yourself, nigel, is that, you know, this know, if you're watching this and that invite to a and you've got that invite to a screening appointment, it's on the you haven't it. screening appointment, it's on theif you haven't it. screening appointment, it's on theif that you haven't it. screening appointment, it's on theif that test1aven't it. screening appointment, it's on theif that test has n't it. screening appointment, it's on theif that test has arrived it. screening appointment, it's on theif that test has arrived and or if that test has arrived and you haven't it when the you haven't used it when the show finishes, go and use it or go make the appointment. go and make the appointment. >> i absolutely agree and >> now i absolutely agree and kevin, my own cancer kevin, i received my own cancer diagnosis many years ago diagnosis many, many years ago and and you know, and i'm still here and you know, so, so, so catching things early really matter . you know, really does matter. you know, the constitutional position of this. of course, you know, it is it is the king in parliament. and there you are in parliament. i mean , how do you think his i mean, how do you think his first year has gone? up until now? >> i think it's been quite distinguished. i think his mother would been mother would have been very proud how, after all proud to see how, after all those of devoted those years of devoted service from then from herself, her son has then picked become picked up and become a distinguished king in his own right, because following from right, because following on from such reign, 70 years such an amazing reign, 70 years literally of trans transitional reign, you know, the monarchy and the perception of it going from different place . you from a very different place. you know, at, for example,

know, i look at, for example, the queen's first visit to my constituency as in the the queen's first visit to my consti involved. in the the queen's first visit to my consti involved sort in the the queen's first visit to my consti involved sort of in the the queen's first visit to my consti involved sort of a in the the queen's first visit to my consti involved sort of a white; 1950s involved sort of a white tie reception the town hall tie reception at the town hall meeting all great and good. meeting, all the great and good. and the end of her reign it and by the end of her reign it would have been meeting, you know, out, meeting the know, getting out, meeting the people, the people who, you know, as their queen and know, saw her as their queen and now charles their king. now see charles as their king. >> yeah. i there's been >> yeah. i think there's been a general acceptance of i general acceptance of him. i mean, of tough act to mean, a hell of a tough act to follow. mean, the follow. i mean, 70 years the queen. no scandal, no difficulty . the crown making . see, even the crown making their dramatisation can't really find any scandal of any kind at all. and charles has had his controversies through his life as the rest of us have our own. >> yeah. none of us. none of us are impervious to that. always. >> it was interesting. the point you michael cole, who we you made michael cole, who we had on earlier, said, had on earlier, um, said, because about him in because you think about him in the couple the the last couple of years, the drama, the royal drama of the last couple of years, you know, the death of our beloved queen, that extraordinary funeral, massive crowds in london, and then , you know, when the cortege then, you know, when the cortege got to windsor, it was as big

again. uh, the coronation, which none of us had ever seen, not forgetting the scenes in scotland well. well, of scotland as well. well, of course, where she died. but the coronation, which have be coronation, which you have to be sort of 75 or more to even remember coronation. so remember the last coronation. so it's very , very dramatic it's been a very, very dramatic couple of years. do you think we're as connected to the monarchy as perhaps our parents generation? >> i think there is different >> i think there is a different type of connection. you know, in many we actually far many ways we actually get far more information the royal more information about the royal family say, family than, let's say, our great grandparents would great our grandparents would have gone, you know, our grandparents would seen the grandparents would have seen the odd and things. odd newsreel reel and things. now royal are there now the royal family are there regularly. all of regularly. we hear from all of them. followed many as you them. we've followed many as you say, with things like the crown and some of the and things like some of the issues involving prince. are issues involving prince. how are we today? we following in much more today? some and some of the trials and tribulations than perhaps would have previous have been for previous generations. there generations. but i think there is a strong connection there. you know, the royal do you know, the royal family do mean the people in this mean a lot to the people in this country. king charles himself is someone whose respect know, country. king charles himself is s met)ne whose respect know, country. king charles himself is s met him vhose respect know, country. king charles himself is s met him when respect know, country. king charles himself is s met him when izspect know, country. king charles himself is smet him when i was:t know, country. king charles himself is smet him when i was walesknow, i met him when i was wales minister, when was prince of minister, when he was prince of wales, is a really nice guy to meet. know, meet. there's, you know, ironically, no and

ironically, there's no airs and graces man could graces from the man who could potentially have so it's potentially have them. so it's something, something where everyone's thoughts be with everyone's thoughts will be with him. and think probably him. and i think probably why he's this he's put this out, why this information out. and i information has been out. and i expect there'll be a balance between no one wants our personal details all personal medical details all over but he'll also over the media. but he'll also know prompt people to know this will prompt people to be treated. >> would you that care. and >> would you say that care. and the point was being a the point was being made a moment ago with american moment ago that with american presidents, everything has to be in pubuc presidents, everything has to be in public domain? i i think in the public domain? i i think it's i mean, i personally believe that it's going to be important possible for the palace, tell more. palace, not to tell us more. >> i suspect more come. and >> i suspect more may come. and i remember i'm go i can remember i'm going to go back to own personal back to my own personal experience of talking my experience of talking with my mum, i was in public mum, because i was in public life, and balance between life, and the balance between what about her. and what did we share about her. and she said, you know, kevin, she she said, you know, kevin, don't share the most embarrassing things. me embarrassing things. gave me a sort as though, you sort of look as though, you know, know might be funny, know, i know it might be funny, but, know, i'd rather you but, you know, i'd rather you didn't. talk about some didn't. but do talk about some what's happening you what's happening so that, you know, for others. know, it's a message for others. one a bit of hope at times. others. sadly, my mum, it didn't turn as the way we'd have turn out as the way we'd have wanted but there are many

wanted it to, but there are many other who had positive other people who had a positive story, is, other people who had a positive story, is, you story, but the core one is, you know, any concerns get, you know, if any concerns get, you know, if any concerns get, you know, take screening know, take up the screening programs and get checked. >> the extraordinary >> and it's the extraordinary thing, isn't it? whenever >> and it's the extraordinary thing, ia|'t it? whenever >> and it's the extraordinary thing, ia majothenever >> and it's the extraordinary thing, ia major royalever >> and it's the extraordinary thing, ia major royal event, there's a major royal event, a happy sad event, happy event, a sad event, a dramatic event, this comment that cole made a that michael cole made to me a couple of years ago that we live our lives through them. and you were point that were echoing that point that there'll that word, that there'll be that word, that diagnosis reminds all of of diagnosis reminds all of us of similar things that have happenedin similar things that have happened in our lives and our families. >> yeah, it'll strike a chord for many people because we do see that. and it's interesting, since queen victoria's time, it's the idea of the family it's been the idea of the family that's at the head of the nation that's at the head of the nation that we feel that them, that we feel that we know them, that we feel that we know them, that represent us. and of that they represent us. and of course, monarchy, not course, being monarchy, not a presidential or political system. not people presidential or political system.been not people presidential or political system.been involved aople presidential or political system.been involved in)le presidential or political system.been involved in the who've been involved in the political debates of day, political debates of the day, but do have a role. that's but they do have a role. that's their constitution , ali, which, but they do have a role. that's thei know, itution , ali, which, but they do have a role. that's thei know, gives] , ali, which, but they do have a role. that's thei know, gives a ali, which, but they do have a role. that's thei know, gives a strength :h, but they do have a role. that's thei know, gives a strength to you know, gives a strength to our nation and, you know, ultimately, in our armed forces, our police serve the crown, not, you know, that's where the oath is. they don't serve the government the day. they

government of the day. they serve the crown. and that embodiment of the state, as you say, crown sovereign in say, the crown sovereign in parliament, that respecting the democracy. but still being that that head of state and that sort of embodiment, the family of the nation, a system that nation, it's a system that serves pretty well. serves us pretty well. >> would suggest. >> since 1688. i would suggest. thank very much indeed, thank you very much indeed, kevin coming and kevin foster, for coming in and giving us some political reaction, more political reaction, some more political reaction. secretary , reaction. the health secretary, victoria has said on x, victoria atkins, has said on x, formerly twitter. my thoughts are with king charles and the whole royal family his decision to his diagnosis ipsis to to share his diagnosis ipsis to assist public understanding for all those affected by cancer is commendable. wishing his majesty the very best and look forward to seeing him resume his public dufies. to seeing him resume his public duties . boris johnson has said duties. boris johnson has said the whole country will be rooting for the king today. best wishes to charles the third for a full and speedy recovery. and liz truss has said she is sending every best wish to his majesty the king and the royal family as he undergoes his treatment for cancer. he will be

in our thoughts and prayers. god save the king, says liz truss. quite right too. and michelle o'neill, the first minister of northern ireland, says i'm very sorry to hear a king charles's illness and i want to wish him well for his treatment and a full and speedy recovery . well, full and speedy recovery. well, there you are. it just goes to show, doesn't it? rapprochement. not just with prince harry, but kind words. there for the first minister of northern ireland, who of course is from sinn fein . who of course is from sinn fein. let us get some religious reaction to this news. i'm very pleased to be joined by bishop michael nazir—ali, now a catholic prelate. but of course, the former anglican bishop of rochester . i the former anglican bishop of rochester. i know the former anglican bishop of rochester . i know you've had rochester. i know you've had your disputes, but michael, the head of our established church in, is unwell. uh is this a time when , as a nation, we should when, as a nation, we should pray ?

pray? >> well, yes . i pray? >> well, yes. i was going to say, nigel, you've got the word right. i was just about to say that i've been listening to the programme and the word prayer hasn't mentioned . but hasn't yet been mentioned. but of this diagnosis, um, of course, this diagnosis, um, there are so many ramifications, but , uh, it there are so many ramifications, but, uh, it does remind us of our own mortality. someone was saying on your programme that we live some of our lives through the royal family, and, um , this the royal family, and, um, this does remind us that that, uh, we are all mortal and that we all need prayer and, of course, uh, the nation and the churches do pray for the king. uh, all the time. but now, especially , uh, time. but now, especially, uh, this is an occasion for prayer, for him and for this treatment and for its success. >> yes, i promise you, bishop, i wasn't ignoring the use of the word prayer. i was saving it. i promise you, for this segment of the show, do you believe. >> yes. i wasn't actually saying that you were avoiding the word,

but i was just saying it hadn't been mentioned yet. >> no, no, no, i take the point fully, michael, with your experience of people when they get bad diagnoses , when they get get bad diagnoses, when they get big trials in life, and let's be in no doubt that through this treatment, the king is , is about treatment, the king is, is about to or has indeed begun going through one of those big trials in life . and he is very much in life. and he is very much a person of faith . do you think person of faith. do you think that faith helps people through their times of difficulty? because it's the sort of thing we don't discuss in public anymore? >> well, absolutely. i think, uh, illness , uh, focuses people , uh, illness, uh, focuses people, uh, illness, uh, focuses people, uh, onto their spiritual nature. and king charles has a, uh, an acute sense of the spiritual world and of people's spirits duality in many different contexts. uh, but this will certainly , um, as it were, certainly, um, as it were, activate that sense of the spiritual will that he has

always had. and i hope that it will lead , um, him not just to will lead, um, him not just to a heaung will lead, um, him not just to a healing of what is going on, but also to a new sense of his destiny. >> and it's just so much harder, isn't it, for people who are pubuc isn't it, for people who are public figures? i mean, it's a difficult enough trial for anyone to go through for you, you know, whether it's you or your parents or your children, your parents or your children, you know, when this word strikes , it does bring terrible fear to everybody . but to have to do it everybody. but to have to do it in full public glare, we really should spare a thought for him, shouldn't we? yes >> and i think part of that is respect for privacy at this time , because people need to know, um, somehow , uh, have time , as um, somehow, uh, have time, as it were, to make sense of what is going on. uh and it will take him time . not not just the royal him time. not not just the royal family, but, uh, and not just the nation, but personally for him, we should allow that room, uh, for him to, uh, come to

terms with what? what is happening . but as i say , um, it happening. but as i say, um, it is very often a time when people are awakened to aspects of themselves , uh, that they may themselves, uh, that they may not have , um, occasion for not have, um, occasion for otherwise . otherwise. >> yeah. and i suppose the other thing that comes out of , of bad thing that comes out of, of bad news is , is it can lead to, to news is, is it can lead to, to a rapprochement, it can lead to a forgiveness of families who've fallen out with each other, perhaps friends who've had terrible bus stops. um, and i, i thought, i don't know what you think, bishop, but i thought the news was. and i don't approve of almost anything the duke of sussex has said or done . but i sussex has said or done. but i thought the news that harry will be travelling to the uk to see his majesty in the coming days. i thought that was rather a good thing . thing. >> well, of course it is. uh, it

must be. but, um, rapprochement or, uh, reconciliation perhaps is a better word. yeah um , is a better word. yeah um, follows. uh, repent ance. it follows. uh, repent ance. it follows , uh, a desire to adopt a follows, uh, a desire to adopt a new way to turn again from what we've been doing to a new attitude , food. and so all, uh, attitude, food. and so all, uh, authentic reconciliation is about that. and i hope that there will be new attitudes that will be a turning again , of will be a turning again, of course, to god, but also towards each other. uh, and to, uh, have a desire to walk in a new way to forge a good relations , uh, and forge a good relations, uh, and to build the monarchy. uh rather than to undermine it. um, it has been said on your program, it is the basis for our national life, and it is very important that it should be seen as strong and reliable . reliable. >> no, absolutely . well, let's

>> no, absolutely. well, let's very much hope that that does happen with harry and the king and michael nazir—ali as ever. thank you very much indeed for joining us on the program. and we will, over the course of the next few weeks, make sure we use the word prayer again. i absolutely promise you. well, we've had political reaction , we've had political reaction, ian. we've had religious reaction. we've had royal commentator reaction. but i can't resist getting some medical reaction because i repeat the point and i'm not being mean. i'm not being nasty, but i'm sorry to say that , but i'm sorry to say that, having been so frank about the prostate enlargement and the procedure to come out and tell us that he's got cancer, yes, of course , that is a very open act. course, that is a very open act. but inevitably people will ask, well, why did we find out now? what could these diagnostic

tests have been? what cancer is it? what stage is it at? it says here that he's undergoing treatment . and that'll be, i treatment. and that'll be, i think, as an outpatient . but we think, as an outpatient. but we don't know whether that is chemotherapy or exactly what it is. um and so i think there is going to be, rightly or wrongly , going to be, rightly or wrongly, i believe there will be acres of speculation over the course of the coming days. i'm joined by angela dalgleish, professor of oncology at saint george's university of london. um angus, just to begin , you know, you've just to begin, you know, you've worked in this you've worked in this for decades . it is still this for decades. it is still a word, isn't it? it's still the c word. it's still one of the things that nobody ever wants to hear. things that nobody ever wants to hear . um, but things that nobody ever wants to hear. um, but it's still, at the end of the day, it is. >> it'sjust end of the day, it is. >> it's just a word, not a sentence. as one of my colleagues coined it. and it's very true. my first reactions to this, i don't really know what

it is from anybody else, but what i do know is that if a cancer is found by accident, as it were, and it sounds like unless they've changed their diagnosis from to a prostate cancen diagnosis from to a prostate cancer, it does sound like it was a very early cancer. and therefore, in my experience , therefore, in my experience, since whether whatever it is , since whether whatever it is, whether it's something they saw through while they were doing this, then it is eminently treatable . and actually, that's treatable. and actually, that's a very good thing . you know, you a very good thing. you know, you can say, oh, it's terrible to come out with a cancer diagnosis , but to have one before you even to have the diagnosis, before you even know it these days actually very good news, days is actually very good news, because our treatment is so good, uh, when it's when it's very early and hopefully it hasn't spread and they're giving him a treatment. i don't really want to go and speculate all the different types, but in the pelvis, there are many things that come across very that you can come across very early it's curable. and early in. it's curable. and i strongly suspect and hope that this is what the case is. and we shouldn't overreact to it . and

shouldn't overreact to it. and obviously it's very worrying for him as an individual. and but it is all i can say. it is very, very common. i can't tell you the number of people in my family and friends , you know, family and friends, you know, completely outside my professional practice that i know have come across cancers early and often. sometimes as a result of going to hospital for trauma. and they they discover something. >> i mean, this is very much isn't it? and i take your point that it sounds like it's early and we hope it hasn't spread. and that treatment is far better than it's ever been. i get all of those points absolutely . but of those points absolutely. but in sense , this is the benefit in a sense, this is the benefit of going and having check—ups and procedures, isn't it? >> , very very much >> well, very much so. very much . and we know that if you pick these things up, really early and the screening, the outcome is really improved dramatically over the last two decades. absolutely dramatic . and the one absolutely dramatic. and the one thing where this is highlighted has been the tragedy of the lockdown. whereas people didn't

get screened . and i know someone get screened. and i know someone very, very close to me who didn't get his screening for 2 or 3 years. and then he's presented with what should not have presented had he not had the screenings cancelled. so this is another thing having to do. >> i think i have to say, angus, i think that conversation will be taking place . in families and be taking place. in families and pubs all over the country tonight, that we're delighted that we've discovered that the king has discovered this at a relatively early stage. but just how many people and you say lockdown, generally there lockdown, but generally there are quite big waiting times are some quite big waiting times in elements the national in elements of the national health albeit health service, albeit exacerbated by what happened. do we do we match up to our neighbours in in countries like france, when it comes to cancer treatment? no i don't think we do. >> and i think the main reasons we don't match up is that we're seeing too many cancers present, too late because of the waiting list, the waiting time, the problem with the nhs is once you get through to a good cancer

unit , the treatments are as unit, the treatments are as good, if not better than anywhere else. >> it and you would stand by that. yeah, i would, i would it's getting through to it that's the problem. >> it's getting past the gp. it is stopping them giving you one treatment after another for an infection when it is actually saying something far more important than an infection is going on here. this needs urgent scanning. and then we find that people are waiting weeks , months people are waiting weeks, months for a scan, which should in an ideal system, if i saw somebody had these symptoms, i want that scan within 48 hours. so i can advise them. this does not happen on the nhs anywhere. and i think this is the big problem. >> so the gap between what you can get, if you've got the money or insurance or the insurance in private medicine public medicine, is enormous. >> it is absolutely enormous. but once you get on the conveyor belt, as it were, for the treatment, it would be chemotherapy, radiotherapy , me chemotherapy, radiotherapy, me it's every bit as good. it's getting access to it, which is the big problem. and that is

what we need to sort out with the nhs. and i've been predicting the demise of the gp service for years and now horrendously it's come true in front of us and that means that you can't rely on going to see your gp to get your cancer diagnosis. you need to have some immediate access to a diagnostic centre. this is what i've been proposing for ages. you don't burden your gp. he's got other things to do. if you have certain symptoms and you have a blood test that has a red flag , blood test that has a red flag, or you have symptoms and it is for the time simpsons for two weeks are nothing or even three weeks. but it's when they go on that's the when you urgently need full investigation. and that's what, in my experience, is not happening at the present time . and you need to have a time. and you need to have a diagnostic centre. they can walk in, have their bloods have their scans, have it makes perfect sense. and the greatest thing is say, pleased we've done say, i'm so pleased we've done everything necessary and everything that's necessary and there's worry there's nothing serious to worry about. go. about. off you go. >> mean , that makes

>> no, i mean, that makes perfect sense. and you know, the king it's a huge king has cancer. it's a huge headline. it's a huge story. and yet, how many of us at some point in our life will get cancer? is it a third of us? is it half of us? >> well, i think it's1 it half of us? >> well, i think it's 1 in 2 now. uh, i mean, it was1 >> well, i think it's 1 in 2 now. uh, i mean, it was 1 in 3 officially about ten years ago, but i think it's now 1 in 2. you know, we live longer. we're, uh. well, up to now, actually well, up to now, we're actually now living quite as long as now not living quite as long as the has stopped. but we the growth has stopped. but we are exposed all the are being exposed to all the things that give us cancer. you know the environment, in the know, in the environment, in the processed so the more processed food, etc. so the more and more of us are going to get cancen and more of us are going to get cancer, hopefully most of us will get it picked up early , will get it picked up early, treated, taken care of . treated, taken care of. >> i mean, in a way, angus, despite the deficiencies of diagnostics in this country, i think in many ways, what you've given us tonight, medically, we don't know the full facts and you speculate that. you wouldn't speculate on that. and responsible . the and that's very responsible. the tabloid press would do that. i'm sure . but i tabloid press would do that. i'm sure. but i think tabloid press would do that. i'm sure . but i think in many tabloid press would do that. i'm sure. but i think in many ways, what you've given us is a rather upbeat, optimistic assessment. yes, we're getting really

yes, that we're getting really rather dealing with rather better at dealing with this thank very this disease. thank you very much you're welcome for much indeed. you're welcome for coming joined by coming in. well, i'm joined by jacob jacob i you jacob rees—mogg. jacob i you know, i was here in the office when some suddenly all the royal correspondents were summoned to buckingham palace, so we knew it was going to be big news. and it is big news, isn't it? it's very important news. >> the health of the king in a constitutional monarchy is as big you ever get. but big news as you ever get. but it's very reassuring. listen to professor daglish that professor daglish saying that getting there's getting it early means there's a very good prospect of it being cured. and that is what everybody wants. yeah i mean, we don't know. we don't know . don't know. we don't know. >> we just don't know. but we believe from the information that we've had thus far that that we've had thus far that thatis that we've had thus far that that is the case. his constitutional duties, we're told, not a problem . yes. told, not a problem. yes. >> and that's what i'm going to be talking about. david starkey will be joining me, and we will talk about the history of monarchs and their relationship with their public, that how much do they tell people? and bear in mind, queen victoria wasn't

examined by her doctor until she was on her deathbed because it was on her deathbed because it was thought indecent for her to be looked at to this very openness. but then the medieval monarchs led their life completely in public. there completely in public. so there are cycles in the degree of pubuchy are cycles in the degree of publicity that sovereigns are willing allow. publicity that sovereigns are wiliyeah. allow. publicity that sovereigns are wiliyeah. and»w. publicity that sovereigns are wiliyeah. and it's yeah, as you >> yeah. and it's yeah, as you say, you know, in the past we were i think the public were often lied to quite, quite openly. >> and george v was killed off by his doctor because it was thought not respectable for his death to be reported in the evening standard. it had to be in the times. >> yeah, yeah. jacob jacob's going to be with you in a few minutes, but i'm going to get a reaction now if i can. from gb news presenter and associate editor of the daily telegraph, camilla tominey camilla. uh you've written more about the royal over the years . the royal family over the years. the most people. what was your reaction to this news? >> well, obviously quite shocked. nigel um, at the end of the day, we thought that he had gonein the day, we thought that he had gone in for that, uh, operation on on his prostate. we were told

it was benign. >> we were very much steered away from the c—word. and now to hear this news, it's thankful, of course, that it's been discovered while he underwent this operation last week, because the same time, because at the same time, i suppose if they hadn't made their inquiries they their inquiries there, they wouldn't what wouldn't have found out what happened. i just heard you speaking sort speaking to jacob about the sort of unprecedented nature of the royals, discussing this diagnosis. think in the past, diagnosis. i think in the past, if did cancer , then if royals did have cancer, then their subjects certainly never found out about it. >> this is a desire for him to be a bit more down with the times, to be transparent. i think he's done enough work for cancer the course think he's done enough work for ca his' the course think he's done enough work for ca his' as the course think he's done enough work for ca his' as prince the course think he's done enough work for ca his' as prince of; course think he's done enough work for ca his' as prince of walese of his time as prince of wales to want to share that news, but obviously it's quite shocking. >> and trouble is, when you >> and the trouble is, when you know the c word rears its head with you're worried with anyone, you're worried about individual. when about that individual. but when that individual is working, not just a family but a family just for a family but a family firm, worry about the firm, you then worry about the institution which institution to which is why buckingham palace, have buckingham palace, i think, have been forthright in saying been so forthright in saying that him to that the impetus is for him to return work as soon as return to work as soon as possible. yes. possible. well, yes. >> of course, there aren't

>> and of course, there aren't many to around and many royals to go around and a couple of them, of course, have left and gone off to america. uh, one thinks of perhaps the duke of sussex in duke and duchess of sussex in particular. um and yet this statement camilla from harry tonight or from a source close tonight or from a source close to harry saying he will be travelling to the uk to see his majesty in the coming days. um, i don't approve of much of what harry has said and done, but perhaps this is a piece of good news that can come out of a bad diagnosis. well i think it's positive that prince harry was informed, of course, ahead of the public. >> there had been complaints in the past that when news was being broken, that he was the last to find out. think last to find out. i think certainly when comes to sort certainly when it comes to sort of a royal of talk of a royal rapprochement, sometimes it takes an event this, takes an event like this, doesn't it, to bring family members together. >> and we that the king has >> and we know that the king has been desperately sad about what's happening recent years. >> t- w“ >> the fact that harry left the family, left the country indeed isn't. on speaking terms with william, would william, um, i would imagine, you end of the day,

you know, at the end of the day, both of those princes are hugely invested love their dearest invested and love their dearest papa, they call him. very papa, as they call him. very much indeed. the only much indeed. he's the only parent left. parent they have left. and i think when something this think when something like this happens not forget, happens and let's not forget, you he's 75. he's working you know, he's 75. he's working well age. well beyond retirement age. they've spoken in the past they've both spoken in the past about him being a workaholic and never slowing down. i think this will be as much of a shock to them as his sons, as it will be to the king himself. if you know he's not really had any health problems in the past to speak of. and now, as we're sort of in the fledgling of the fledgling part of the carolean era, been hit with carolean era, he's been hit with this. i think harry also this. so i think harry also surely will be mindful of the fact prince william is in a fact that prince william is in a very, difficult position. very, very difficult position. he's to have to step he's now going to have to step up and support father as his up and support his father as his so—called liege man and so—called liege man of life and limb, the same time limb, while at the same time trying to look after his wife, kate. after she underwent her operation , she she in the operation, she she was in the london 13 you london clinic for 13 days, you know clearly major know, she clearly had major surgery . and, um, paul, prince surgery. and, um, paul, prince william , maybe, like many people william, maybe, like many people of his generation , you know, of his generation, you know, sandwiched caring for

sandwiched between caring for young children, for young children, caring for elderly parents, i think lots of people watching and listening to gb news tonight will be able to identify why. >> yes. no, absolutely . but the >> yes. no, absolutely. but the difference don't to difference is they don't have to live their full public live their lives in full public glare. that's the glare. and that's the difference, isn't it, between the pretty much the royals? well, pretty much all us. um, suppose, uh, all of us. um, i suppose, uh, camilla, you know, i've been making the point over and over that whilst the king was very open about about the prostrate problem , i think this statement problem, i think this statement that leaves us with more questions than answers inevitably , i would have thought inevitably, i would have thought the press pack are going to be are going to be demanding of buckingham palace. more information on in the next few days. >> oh, that's a difficult one, isn't it? >> there's a careful balancing act on one hand, as we've just discussed, they've been more open than usually the case, open than he's usually the case, even us he was going to even telling us he was going to have procedure on the have the procedure on the prostate one thing. you prostate was one thing. you know, us some know, they have given us some guidance the scenes as to guidance behind the scenes as to how they're going to manage the

situation. this idea of the king carrying on with some engagements but not public facing understand. for facing ones we understand. for instance, continue to instance, he will continue to have weekly audience have his weekly audience with rishi to have rishi sunak. he's going to have to duties, no to delegate other duties, no doubt. to delegate other duties, no doubt . we obviously that he doubt. we obviously hope that he has quick and swift recovery has a quick and swift recovery and that he isn't too badly affected by what's only been described as a schedule of regular going regular treatments. he's going to an outpatient, to be treated as an outpatient, isn't wanting us to isn't there, wanting to us to avoid too much speculation. and in a i think that is kind in a way, i think that is kind of fair. i mean, as a journalist, one's always trying of fair. i mean, as a jotgetlist, one's always trying of fair. i mean, as a jotget to:, one's always trying of fair. i mean, as a jotget to the e's always trying of fair. i mean, as a jotget to the truth ways trying of fair. i mean, as a jotget to the truth of ys trying of fair. i mean, as a jotget to the truth of any ying to get to the truth of any matter. but when it comes to health matters involving a 75 year old man who's already shared quite a lot i shared quite a lot already, i think it's going to be a case a little bit like kate actually, that we're going to have to wait for royal himself reveal for the royal himself to reveal more. >> camilla, you may be right. i don't know. thank you for joining on the programme, joining me on the programme, folks. could be completely folks. i could be completely wrong i doubt wrong about this, but i doubt it. and joe biden, the it. um, and joe biden, the president the has also president of the usa, has also sent a message saying i'm concerned him. heard concerned about him. just heard about diagnosis. i'll be about his diagnosis. i'll be talking to him, god willing .

talking to him, god willing. well, that's nice coming up next. it'll be state of a nation with jacob rees—mogg. first, though, get the latest though, let's get the latest news update from polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you and good evening to you. well, if you've just joined us, the breaking news we've received this evening, his majesty king charles the third has been diagnosed with a form of cancer. gb news royal correspondent cameron walker has the latest. cameron walker has the latest. cameron how did buckingham palace for first break this news to us? >> well, polly, a statement was released by buckingham palace at 6:00 this evening, confirming that his majesty the king has been diagnosed with a form of cancen been diagnosed with a form of cancer. now it's understood that it is not prostate cancer. a few weeks ago he was in hospital receiving treatment for a benign , enlarged prostate. and it was dufing , enlarged prostate. and it was during that treatment, as we understand it, that doctors discovered this separate issue. now, the statement from

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