in our what is happening in our country. and that's why i'm so delighted that mark has taken on the mantle of leading popular conservatism. and there are three things i think we need to achieve. first of all, we need to make the case for democratic accountability . the fact is that accountability. the fact is that democracy has become unfashionable if you ask the under 30s what they think of democracy, there's not a very polite response, but we know it's the only way to deliver effective government effective policies and our fundamental freedoms as british people . and freedoms as british people. and we need to restore faith in democracy. and we can only do that by restoring democratic accountability . the second thing accountability. the second thing we need to do is galvanise our conservative forces. now, britain is full of secret conservatives , people who agree conservatives, people who agree with us but don't want to admit

it because they think it's not acceptable in their place of work. it's not acceptable at their school , work. it's not acceptable at their school, and people who are prepared to put their heads above the parapet and come out and stand as conservative candidates make conservative arguments, are vitally important. so this organisation is not just about the members of parliament. it's not just about the parliamentary candidates. it's actually about all of you and supporting all of you to be prepared to go and make those arguments with your friends and colleagues. we need to provide each other with support because the left is tough. you know, they try to drown us out literally . in the case of steve literally. in the case of steve bray . and we have to have bray. and we have to have resilience and bravery to take on that fight. and the final thing we need to do is communicate with the public about our policies in an effective way. and i think leigh hits the nail on the head here. we need to communicate and show

how people's lives will be improved by these policies. too much time is spent talking about personality issues in the westminster bubble. that's not what people want to hear. what people want to hear is how are we going to help them make their own lives better? how are we going to help make britain more success? how are we going to defend our country now? this fight is not going to be easy. the left have been on the march. they've been on the march in our institutions . they've been on institutions. they've been on the march in our corporate world. they're on the march globally . they are actively globally. they are actively organising . but i believe this organising. but i believe this fight is important because i believe it's only through conservative values that we will give the people of britain what they want . and i feel it's only they want. and i feel it's only through conservative values that we will ensure the successful future of our nation . and i future of our nation. and i think the successful future of britain is vitally important for

the successful future of the west. so please join our organisation and get involved . organisation and get involved. this is just the beginning. thank you . thank you. >> well, that was former prime minister liz truss at the launch of popcorn in popular concert lives. and, uh, we've got, uh, tom is here in the studio , as tom is here in the studio, as you can hear him, and he's brought a, uh, suitable snack for the occasion , an appropriate for the occasion, an appropriate snack for the occasion . snack for the occasion. >> these sorts of things are very exciting for tom. um, but liz truss, the former prime minister there, essentially saying that the government has failed take on left wing failed to take on left wing extremists. she talked about immigration. about immigration. she talked about wokery institutions . she wokery in our institutions. she talked about net zero two and how it's strangling our economy. >> she said that britain is full of what she termed as secret conservatives , people who conservatives, people who believe in the things that she

believes in, believes in conservative ideas , but don't conservative ideas, but don't feel able to express those ideas in their place of work or in their social circles . their social circles. >> yes. let us know what you make of what liz truss had to say there. vaiews@gbnews.uk um, because for a lot of people, uh, they may not be listening. of course, liz truss didn't last very long in the top job, but does she have some relevant things say time around? things to say this time around? are you listening? and do you think rishi sunak should be listening? or are you sick of this of competing this sort of competing conservative isms, competing versions the same thing? it's versions of the same thing? it's interesting. do you believe liz truss? because i'm not sure i believe her when she talks about robust immigration controls because, considered because, uh, she has considered liberalising rules in the past. >> well, i think she had a different view on legal migration than she did on illegal migration. but whether or not that's exactly where this new group sits, that's a question to be answered. but very interesting to hear in perhaps what was the most substantial post—prime substantial post post—prime ministerial speech that the

shortest serving prime minister of the united kingdom has given in, uh, after she resigned , uh, in, uh, after she resigned, uh, almost two years ago now. so to scanned the inbox just then and, uh, there's a division from you at home very much some of you are great supporters. >> think she's the one that got away. um, others aren't so keen. so let us know what you think. >> but to our top story today, following yesterday's evening's shock news that king charles has been diagnosed with a form of cancen been diagnosed with a form of cancer. messages of support have been in across the been pouring in from across the globe and across the political spectrum. yes. spectrum. um, yes. >> minister rishi sunak >> prime minister rishi sunak said he sad and shocked by said he was sad and shocked by the monarch's cancer diagnosis, but was thankful illness but was thankful that illness had early. whilst had been caught early. whilst labour leader keir starmer labour leader sir keir starmer wished king all the best for wished the king all the best for his recovery. >> meanwhile , while the >> meanwhile, while the president the united states, president of the united states, joe biden, and president of joe biden, and the president of france, macron, were france, emmanuel macron, were among world among the countless world leaders to send their best wishes britain's of wishes to britain's head of state, yes, well, we can now go live to buckingham palace and speak to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker .

correspondent cameron walker. >> thank you very much indeed for us. now, we forjoining us. now, we understand that prince harry may be mid—air at the moment. he's coming back from la. >> yeah, that's correct emily. he was spotted this morning arriving at lax. that's los angeles international airport and this has presumably boarded and this has presumably boarded a flight to london today. he is expected to land this afternoon. according to some of the newspapers this morning . but the newspapers this morning. but the king has already started to receive family visitors by the looks of things . princess looks of things. princess beatrice, his niece, alongside her husband edoardo mapelli . her husband edoardo mapelli. mozzi, was spotted leaving clarence house house about an hour ago. that is where king charles is staying, just slightly down the road here from buckingham palace. of course, we've talked at length now on gb news about the shock announcement yesterday that the king been diagnosed with a king has been diagnosed with a form cancer , but he's being form of cancer, but he's being treated outpatient , which treated as an outpatient, which means not going to be means he's not going to be spending hospital. but spending nights in hospital. but he's much receiving he's very much receiving treatment and then treatment at hospital and then

coming home at the end of the day. his first round of treatment was was yesterday. it's thought that the king it's also thought that the king personally telephoned both prince . harry and prince william prince. harry and prince william to tell him of tell them of his diagnosis. this before the pubuc diagnosis. this before the public announcements at 6:00 yesterday. the same thing happens with the king siblings as well. prince andrew, prince edward and princess anne. now although the king is not going to be seen in public for some time, he is still, as we understand it, carrying on with constitutional duties. so going through important through those important government red boxes, uh, meeting the prime minister every week and attending privy council meetings and the prime minister was speaking morning on the was speaking this morning on the radio and said that radio show and said that thankfully, king charles is diagnosis caught early and diagnosis was caught early and we have been told by lots of medical experts that if cancer is caught early, it's far more treatable. so perhaps elizabeth , treatable. so perhaps elizabeth, a bit of positive news this morning from the prime minister on the king's diagnosis. morning from the prime minister on the king's diagnosis . yes, on the king's diagnosis. yes, the is . buckingham palace the king is. buckingham palace has said, remaining very positive about his treatment and

his diagnosis, and looks forward to returning to work public work as soon as possible , but as soon as possible, but nonetheless a very worrying time for him and the royal family >> there's a huge amount of speculation as to whether or not the prime minister slipped up this morning, when he said that the king's cancer had been caught early. that's something that buckingham charleton buckingham palace did not say in their statement yesterday evening. that evening. it's something that we've only heard from the prime minister. i wonder, have buckingham palace confirmed that or denied it, or is this something that we're going to have to take on trust from a politician who might well have spoken what he was spoken beyond what he was supposed say ? yeah tom, i supposed to say? yeah tom, i must admit i was surprised that rishi sunak came out with that , rishi sunak came out with that, uh, statement on radio this morning . morning. >> i was told that the prime minister was given advance nofice minister was given advance notice of the king's diagnosis. ahead of that public announcement. but buckingham palace has been keeping very tight lipped and very

controlling what information controlling of what information they giving public, they are giving to the public, presuming only the prime minister as the king's first minister, would have been told, and perhaps a bit more detail than the public. so we can speculate as to whether or not it was a slip up from the prime minister. of course, all medical diagnosis or medical details are coming from royal communications and the king's communications team. what they have said is it's not prostate cancer . um, it it's not prostate cancer. um, it was and the cancer was discovered when they were treating his his benign enlarged prostate. if you weeks ago. but of course they don't want to speculate. they don't want the pubuc speculate. they don't want the public to speculate or indeed the media to speculate. but it is a really tricky balance, tom, because on the one hand, the king is a private individual and has to private has a right to private medical information, head information, but he's also head of realms and of state of 15 realms and territories across the world. and public have right to and the public have a right to know about the health of the monarch. >> well, there you go. thank you very much indeed. uh, cameron walker, royal walker, gb news royal correspondent. bringing walker, gb news royal correst01dent. bringing walker, gb news royal corresto date. bringing walker, gb news royal corresto date , bringing walker, gb news royal corresto date , but. bringing us up to date, but. >> well, for more analysis,

we're joined editor we're now joined by the editor at large the mail on sunday, at large for the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. and charlotte, this is a fascinating situation previously situation because previously with previous monarchs, we have heard virtually nothing about about their health, about whether they're healthy or suffering ill health. first, we hear that the that the king is getting a check—up on his enlarged prostate , a huge amount enlarged prostate, a huge amount of detail, more detail than the princess of wales . and now we princess of wales. and now we hear treatment for cancer. is this a new monarchy ? a more open this a new monarchy? a more open monarchy? >> definitely it is. >> definitely it is. >> and i think that's why everyone's at sixes and sevens, because we're so used to the queen, you know, we'll never know exactly was wrong with know exactly what was wrong with the queen how times in the queen or how many times in her she was because she her life she was ill because she was careful to be guarded her life she was ill because she was that,reful to be guarded her life she was ill because she was that, aful to be guarded her life she was ill because she was that, a bitto be guarded her life she was ill because she was that, a bit like; guarded her life she was ill because she was that, a bit like the arded about that, a bit like the current princess of wales's . but current princess of wales's. but i when charles decided to i think when charles decided to be open to awareness for be open to raise awareness for his prostate , he thought, his large prostate, he thought, well, good, talk well, this is good, i'll talk about it. i'll be open. i'll be about it. i'll be open. i'll be a new open monarchy. and that'll be a good tone. but little did he know that this cancer

diagnosis was coming down the line. now needs line. and so now he needs to sort back little bit sort of row back a little bit because he doesn't want us to know much this stage. know too much at this stage. >> not be, he may be >> he may not be, he may be adjusting to the news himself. >> so now we've got this sort of strange where we're >> so now we've got this sort of streclamouring where we're >> so now we've got this sort of streclamouring forvhere we're >> so now we've got this sort of streclamouring for more we're all clamouring for more information we were information because we were expecting information because we were eprnd|g this gap between >> and there's this gap between what know what more what we know and what what more we know. and of course, in we could know. and of course, in that void fills frantic speculation, they speculation, which is what they don't in a way, don't want. but in a way, they've sort of invited, i think. >> well, yes, in a way they in a way they have. now prince harry is on way to london. he may is on his way to london. he may well imminently. he well be arriving imminently. he actually , back actually in, uh, back, back home. um do you see this? well he's doing the right thing, in my view , isn't my view, isn't he? >> doing the right thing >> he's doing the right thing for his own relationship with his father. and also i do want to be cynical, but how bad would it look if he hadn't flown on the next available flight? in fact, he initially said, i'll be there within a few days. and what he's done you know, what he's done is got, you know, the private jet he can get the first private jet he can get his hands on, which is slightly alarming, but he

alarming, to be honest. but he might to get this trip might be trying to get this trip over and done with because he's due on a press tour this due to be on a press tour this time week with meghan time next week with meghan in whistler, that was whistler, canada. and that was a valentine's day event they were supposed together. supposed to be doing together. and was probably and i think it was probably going to be quite schmaltzy and sort holding on sort of holding hands on valentine's promote the valentine's day to promote the invictus i don't see invictus games, and i don't see how he's going to get from the uk montecito to uk back to montecito and to canada. and the whole tone of his next trip will to his next trip will have to change. it can't be the meghan and because and harry show anymore, because that right pr that wouldn't be the right pr strategy this time. it needs strategy at this time. it needs to be his father . so it to be about his father. so it might be that got over here might be that he got over here as as possible because he's as soon as possible because he's got agenda on next got quite a big agenda on next week. course, there's been a week. of course, there's been a huge of stress, division, huge amount of stress, division, acrimony family, acrimony in this family, particularly to harry's move particularly due to harry's move away , split disassociation from away, split disassociation from his immediate family is this beginning to heal that rift? >> could this be a turning point, a real turning point where we see perhaps harry, who hadnt where we see perhaps harry, who hadn't spoken to his father or his brother for a long, long

time, start to heal those wounds ? >> 7. >>i ? >> i think definitely for him and his father. this is a turning point. i mean, he's flown over. he's going to see his father. his father actually managed to communicate the news to him before it broke. in the past, had wranglings past, they've had wranglings where news hasn't quite to where news hasn't quite got to harry in montecito the harry in montecito before the rest have found rest of the world have found out about he's got that about things. so he's got that right. charles has got that right. charles has got that right. harry right. and presumably harry will be that he was the be quite pleased that he was the first to know, along with his brother. and, know, he's brother. and, you know, he's here i think probably here and i think he'll probably end a royal end up staying in a royal residence time. last time residence this time. last time he here, he end up he was here, he didn't end up staying at buckingham palace and had stay in hotel, because had to stay in a hotel, because there's wrangling about there's always wrangling about where to stay where he's going to stay the whole time. so if that whole time. so so if that happens, think we can see this happens, i think we can see this as a turning point. he's as a real turning point. he's going be put up in a royal going to be put up in a royal residence. he's going his residence. he's going to see his father and have presumably quite decent with them, father and have presumably quite dece him with them, father and have presumably quite dece him and with them, father and have presumably quite dece him and with with them, father and have presumably quite dece him and with camilla.n, father and have presumably quite dece him and with camilla. and with him and with camilla. and as for william, not quite sure how go. i don't how that's going to go. i don't predict being a huge predict this being a huge turning for him and turning point for him and william, but it could be that they a little bit they communicate a little bit for first an for the first time in an extremely long time. how long

has something has it been something i think honestly, think they've honestly, i don't think they've shared a word for months and months. i think i think even over this, mean, some people over this, i mean, some people say over say they've been in touch over this, doubt it. i think they this, i doubt it. i think they will now that he's in the uk, they'll have to perform some logistical conversations. but i honestly be honestly think william will be incredibly against harry incredibly guarded against harry at sad and at this very, very sad and presumably the king would absolutely love to spend more time with grandchildren . i time with his grandchildren. i know what can. well, what can he do? so even if relations were brilliant, you know, he he lives his children are american his his children are american now. his grandchildren. sorry. um always be um so there's always going to be that between them. we that distance between them. we found of his birthday found out that of his birthday quite recently. um, there was a video over montecito video sent over from montecito of kids. and charles does of the kids. and charles does love kids. he does love his little grandchildren. i don't think he was that on as a think he was that hands on as a father at times for his boys, but very hands on with but he is very hands on with louis george and charlotte. louis and george and charlotte. so you know, i'm sure he'd love to. but, you know, his here's harry. he's flown over without the kids. fair enough. you know, they're probably at school in america. they don't want have

america. they don't want to have their it's their lives disrupted. it's obviously very difficult for their mother. just don't their mother. i just don't think. think he's going think. i don't think he's going to see a lot of them during this illness. frankly >> we've much, uh, cloud >> we've got so much, uh, cloud over what is going to go on now. we don't know what treatment the king we can we can king is taking. we can we can guess. although not be guess. although it might not be proper speculate, we don't proper to speculate, we don't know how long this is going to go there's going go on for either. there's going to be a huge gap at the heart of the royal family. now what happensin the royal family. now what happens in this vacuum? >> i think william's going to have to step up to the plate. we're going to see a lot of him tomorrow. and i think there's going to be a real ramping up in the next few months of how much we see william, which is slightly a for kate slightly a shame for kate because see her because kate needs to see her husband. the moment she's husband. at the moment she's recovering, are recovering, but but there are reports that william and reports today that william and charles have been ramping up the number times they each number of times they see each other, it seems like there's other, and it seems like there's been former prince of been a bit of a former prince of wales prince wales wales to new prince of wales training program been training program that's been going in recent weeks. going on, um, in recent weeks. it's ramped a little it's been ramped up a little bit. so perhaps charles knows

he's going to have to lean on william. going william. william is going to have front and of have to be front and centre of the royal pretty much the royal family pretty much alone the next few weeks or months. >> yes, because charlotte, i was reading this morning that king charles royal charles made 516 royal engagements year, 94 engagements last year, 94 of which abroad , which sounds which were abroad, which sounds absolutely extraordinary . it's absolutely extraordinary. it's a lot he should. >> even if he wasn't ill, he should just halve that number because he's 75. yeah i can't work hard and i'm not work that hard now. and i'm not thankful. must be exceptional thankful. it must be exceptional . no he is. he's extremely . yeah. no he is. he's extremely hard camilla's you hard working. camilla's you know, having a go at him know, always having a go at him about telling him he needs know, always having a go at him ab slow telling him he needs know, always having a go at him ab slow tellirandm he needs know, always having a go at him abslow tellirand williamads know, always having a go at him ab slow tellirand william hasn't to slow down. and william hasn't been that many engagements been doing that many engagements comparatively because he's put his family first. that's his family first. and that's fair enough he's always fair enough because he's always said when was little, he said that when he was little, he found difficult that found it quite difficult that his him around his his father fit him around his engagement. so william's come at this parenthood from a very different strategy. so he puts family first and then engagements. so his numbers have never quite reached that level. but i bet you they will start reaching that level now. and it must difficult for must be really difficult for william because kids are william because his kids are

still the youngest still very young. the youngest ones very little. and his ones are very little. and his plan spend loads of time plan was to spend loads of time with his until they kind with his family until they kind of to boarding school, of went to boarding school, basically. father's basically. but if his father's ill, he's going have to slow ill, he's going to have to slow down parenthood stuff and down on the parenthood stuff and ramp the engagement ramp up the engagement stuff. >> for all of them. >> very tricky for all of them. charlotte griffiths, thank you so much forjoining us. editor at of the mail on sunday. at large of the mail on sunday. of course. well, coming up, of course. uh, well, coming up, liz the how liz truss tells the tories how to popular but, um, is to be popular again. but, um, is she the right person to lecture the party on popularity? is the party on popularity? this is good britain on gb good afternoon britain on gb news britain's news channel .

listening to gb news news. radio. >> good afternoon britain . it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:20 and a man has been arrested following a report by conservative mp mike friar's office of an abusive and threatening phone call received last week. >> yes, the metropolitan metropolitan police said a 46 year old was arrested on

suspicion of malicious communication on tuesday, following the call made on wednesday, january the 31st. now, of course, this relates to mike freer mp, the mp for golders green and golders green. finchley and golders green, and he took the decision to step down at the next election because of the abuse. the death threats he's been receiving , threats he's been receiving, particularly due to his pro—israel views. >> yes, finchley and golders green, of course, a very jewish area of london, mike freer has been the mp there for more than a decade, but saw his office for fire bombed recently. now the cause of which was not determined . but he'd also seen determined. but he'd also seen huge subjugation and political attack from various , uh, various attack from various, uh, various islamist groups as well. well, let's get some more reaction on this story. we're joined in the studio by the conservative mp for shipley, philip davies , and for shipley, philip davies, and philip i know you know how much abuse mike freer had been receiving. it must to be some

extent, a relief that some of the perpetrators of this abuse are , uh, seeing the full force are, uh, seeing the full force of the law . of the law. >> yeah, it's good news. >> yeah, it's good news. >> i mean, it's what mike's had to go through has been abysmal. >> you wouldn't wish it on anybody, to be perfectly honest, in at any rate, the police have >> at any rate, the police have been extremely good in dealing with of threats that mps with issues of threats that mps are faced . are faced. >> we've been very proactive, and this is obviously good news. obviously we don't want to pre—empt any inquiries that they're but i'm sure they're making, but i'm sure it's certainly a step in the right direction. >> it's worth saying he's only been exactly at this been arrested exactly at this stage, so we'll wait to see what happens with the police investigation but does investigation there. but it does seem, philip, days , that seem, philip, these days, that it absolutely fair game when it is absolutely fair game when it is absolutely fair game when it comes our politicians and it comes to our politicians and when are extremist groups when there are extremist groups involved, even more involved, it gets even more dire. yeah yeah. >> well, we i mean, we are fair game for criticism. um, and, you know, would want to know, none of us would want to shy away from that. and, and, you know, people can i don't mind i don't mind abuse as long as only verbal to be as it's only verbal to be perfectly it's

perfectly honest. you know, it's you i don't mind, you don't mind, i don't mind, i don't mind, i don't mind people, you know, because you have to have thick to be a have a thick skin to be a politician. and so become politician. and so you become immune politician. and so you become imrdoes everyone realise that though? >> well, no. i mean, whether that's wrong, don't that's right or wrong, i don't know, that's that's how it is. >> and i've been doing it long enough. >> there's nothing that anybody could say that could possibly offend me. could say that could possibly offel'vene. it all, to be >> i've heard it all, to be perfectly honest. >> so it doesn't really. >> so it doesn't really. >> suppose the difference here >> i suppose the difference here is between, you know, shouting swear words at someone a swear words at someone versus a threat. yes, exactly. and a threat. yes, exactly. and a threat intimidation that that threat of intimidation that that is difference, is the big difference, i suppose. mike freer had is the big difference, i suppiwas mike freer had is the big difference, i suppiwas he mike freer had is the big difference, i suppiwas he ended; freer had is the big difference, i suppiwas he ended upaer had is the big difference, i suppiwas he ended up wearing seen was he ended up wearing a stab vest for his constituency surgeries, especially ali surgeries, especially after ali harbi man murdered harbi ali the man who murdered your colleague, sir david amess, initially murder mike freer. >> yeah, exactly. there's a there's a to be drawn, there's a line to be drawn, you know, of general abuse is know, sort of a general abuse is fine. don't mind i don't fine. i don't mind that. i don't think many of us do. long as think many of us do. as long as people mind getting it people don't mind getting it back bit interest. uh, back with a bit of interest. uh, sometimes they don't. but, sometimes they they don't. but, you know, that's a different issue. clearly there's issue. but clearly there's a line, line is where line, and the line is where people have been sent out. death

threats arson threats and things like arson attacks an mps office. attacks on an mps office. i mean, it's completely unacceptable. and the intimidation often that people get is completely get all of that is completely is completely unacceptable . you can completely unacceptable. you can you can express your opinion. you express it as forcibly you can express it as forcibly as but when you get to as you like. but when you get to threats, intimidation and actually carrying out attacks on mps offices, you know, it's completely and utterly unacceptable. and the bad thing is for the country, it will, and ihave is for the country, it will, and i have no doubt, is put off very good people , accomplished people good people, accomplished people from ever wanting to get involved in politics. and that's the greatest tragedy of all. yes. so there are now two police investigations that we know about relating to mike freer. >> this about an abusive and malicious phone call and also, of course, the arson attack . um, of course, the arson attack. um, so shall we move on to what's been going on today ? we were been going on today? we were just showing a speech from, uh , just showing a speech from, uh, liz truss, your colleague , liz truss, your colleague, former prime minister. she's leading this, uh, group called popular conservatives . um, popular conservatives. um, popular ? popular? >> yeah. well look, i mean, the

agenda that they've got, there's two things that strike me about the agenda. they've got. they've got in their agenda. got four things in their agenda. i agree with all of them. as it happens, i've been arguing and voting repeatedly these four voting repeatedly for these four agenda my life. i was agenda items. all my life. i was one five mps who voted one of the five mps who voted against climate act . against the climate change act. uh, so been i've been uh, so i've been i've been banging this. uh, so i've been i've been barremind this. uh, so i've been i've been barremind us this. uh, so i've been i've been bar remind us whatiis. uh, so i've been i've been bar remind us what the four >> remind us what the four points are. well the warnings about immigration and about controlling our borders. >> about scrapping all >> one is about scrapping all this zealotry. the this net zero zealotry. the third bit is about ending the nanny state and all the rest of it. and the fourth one is about cutting taxes. i agree with all four of those things. in fact, i don't see it as popular conservatism. i see these four things as conservatism. >> you're a popcorn. things as conservatism. >> thisre a popcorn. things as conservatism. >> this isa popcorn. things as conservatism. >> this is well, corn. things as conservatism. >> this is well, this is this is conservatism. i don't think it needsit conservatism. i don't think it needs it needs. conservatism. i don't think it neeso it needs. conservatism. i don't think it neeso why eds. conservatism. i don't think it neeso why do ., conservatism. i don't think it neeso why do you think that some >> so why do you think that some of colleagues a good of your colleagues and a good number not just sort of number of them, not just sort of the leaders of the group, liz truss, jacob rees—mogg, lee anderson but anderson and the like, but also quite a few people who perhaps people at home might not people sitting at home might not have sitting in the have heard of sitting in the audience there. >> people perhaps are

>> many people that perhaps are less known backbench less well known backbench conservative less well known backbench conyeah. ive less well known backbench conyeah. well, we i was >> yeah. well, look, we i was obviously wasn't there, i'm obviously i wasn't there, i'm here the, we i can't here but the, the we i can't believe many conservatives disagree that believe many conservatives di conservatism that believe many conservatives di conservatism . that believe many conservatives di conservatism . the that believe many conservatives di conservatism . the thing that believe many conservatives di conservatism . the thing that is conservatism. the thing that strikes me about first strikes me about it. first of all you know, truss did all is, you know, liz truss did have a go as being prime minister uh, and it didn't go well. i think we can all agree on whatever you think of on that. whatever you think of her didn't well her agenda, it didn't go well and wasn't brought down by her agenda, it didn't go well andway,wasn't brought down by her agenda, it didn't go well andway, by;n't brought down by her agenda, it didn't go well andway, by backbench: down by the way, by backbench conservative mps . she was conservative mps. she was brought the markets. she brought down by the markets. she was down. was brought down. >> we believe in that. >> you could argue that the markets panicked because they thought backbench thought that backbench conservative mps wouldn't have allowed sort of cuts in allowed the sort of cuts in pubuc allowed the sort of cuts in public balance the books. >> well, liz truss she >> well, liz truss said she wasn't going public wasn't going to cut public expenditure the time. that expenditure at the time. that was was the problem. so was the that was the problem. so look, she did have a go. it didn't go well and she was brought by the free market, brought down by the free market, the free market presumably the free market that presumably she's i she's arguing for today. i just wonder for a lot of people, wonder that for a lot of people, maybe as, uh, as unwelcome maybe she's as, uh, as unwelcome as, on your wedding day. >> um, but there you go . let's >> um, but there you go. let's go. you very much, philip go. thank you very much, philip davies . davies. >> f n e i have

>> uh, cassandra, i have i have to say, emily carver and i were talking about what metaphor she'd cycled so she'd use. we cycled through so many wedding day she'd use. we cycled through so manperhaps wedding day she'd use. we cycled through so manperhaps the wedding day she'd use. we cycled through so manperhaps the mostiding day she'd use. we cycled through so manperhaps the most one. day she'd use. we cycled through so manperhaps the most one. the was perhaps the most one. the nicest of all of the metaphors, right. >> let's get more on this from gb news political editor christopher hope. christopher tell being said at tell us what's being said at popcorn . popcorn. >> emily. tom. hi yeah, i'm popcorn here where we heard liz truss speak to us. jacob rees—mogg. um, and others from the from this launch of popcorn. it's fascinating attempt, i think to re—orientate the tory party, the government away from deaung party, the government away from dealing with what they see as vested as they would say, left wing to with wing interests to dealing with the overlooked majority in the country, as they would it country, as they would see it earlier. i spoke to liz truss before spoke. what before she spoke. here's what she say . liz truss, why she had to say. liz truss, why do we need in this country? the popular conservatives ? popular conservatives? >> well, we've had a conservative government for 14 years and we've achieved many things, including brexit, trade deals , keeping jeremy corbyn out deals, keeping jeremy corbyn out of office. but one of the problems we have is, though, we've got a conservative

government what we're seeing in our schools , in our our schools, in our universities, in our corporate sector is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas and what popcorn about is about is about combating that because the people of britain want us to deal with a real issues, immigration too high, the government's too big, taxes are too high. but what we constantly hearis too high. but what we constantly hear is the left. so popcorn is about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging the left wing orthodoxy and making it positive to be a conservative. >> how has your government lost its way then? that's why you need it. we need a grassroots movement. >> that's what this is about. it's about making sure that the environment is positive for conservatism that people feel conservatism so that people feel empowered to talk about being a conservative and it becomes a positive thing in society, because i believe that conservative solutions are the right solutions. i know from talking on the doorstep to residents in norfolk, that's what they want. they want us to

deliver conservative policies. they know that a man is a man and a woman is a woman. but what we need is a grassroots movement to challenge that left wing ideology. >> government can't say that now. that? that's a kind now. why is that? that's a kind of an issue for a party being charged for 14 years. >> well, i've said, we've >> well, as i've said, we've done things as a done great things as a government. but what this is aboutis government. but what this is about is about the long tum. it's about influencing society because it's not just about what the government does. it's also about what happens in our corporations, what happens in our schools and for that, you can't just tell people what to do from government. you actually need to influence the debate and you need to make it a positive thing to be a conservative. have you briefed the government or party hq about about the movement ? well, everything we're movement? well, everything we're doing is very, very public. mark littlewood , who's leading the littlewood, who's leading the movement, wrote article movement, wrote an article saying what it's about. i've been very open about my conservative values for years and years, and years, and what we want is we want other people

to join us. >> so it's helpful is it for rishi sunak? i mean, how would you feel if you were in number 10 and your predecessor establish a new group called popular conservative? >> found when i was in >> what i found when i was in number and when i a number 10 and when i was a minister for is that although we wanted policy goals wanted to achieve policy goals like like like reducing immigration, like cutting , too often the cutting taxes, too often the bureaucracy was against us. too often there were external forces that were against us. so what we need to do is actually change the bureaucracy . the bureaucracy. >> we change the mood, the mood music, and we need to yeah, the mood music, the weather. >> but also we to restore >> but also we need to restore the importance of parliament. we need to restore the importance of democratic decision making, because there is too much decision making being made by people who aren't accountable . people who aren't accountable. you know, we saw that on the post office scandal. we've seen it with the environment agency, the abr. so this is about returning the decision making to politicians because ultimately politicians because ultimately politicians can be voted out if people don't like what

politicians do, they've got a choice at the ballot box, whereas if it's one of these unaccountable bodies, how on earth do we change things ? and earth do we change things? and that's what we're saying today. do you do you worry how it looks? >> is it necessary because there's not many authentic right wingers at the top of government. is why government. now, is that why you need this new group? we're are a grassroots movement. >> is all about making >> so this is all about making the conservative argument across the conservative argument across the i think to be the country. and i think to be frank, have been the country. and i think to be fra the have been the country. and i think to be fra the back have been the country. and i think to be fra the back foot have been the country. and i think to be fra the back foot for have been the country. and i think to be fra the back foot for some)een the country. and i think to be fra the back foot for some time on the back foot for some time in making those arguments . it's in making those arguments. it's not about the government. it's about society. it's about the conservative party. it's about where we go from here. but to my mind, the values that people in britain believe in need to be reflected more in our public discourse. >> and just finally, will you be feeding into the tory manifesto in the upcoming election? >> absolutely. i mean, part of what want to do today is to what we want to do today is to get these ideas adopted in the conservative manifesto, because it's just change it's not enough just to change our . it's not enough

our policies. it's not enough just to say, we want to cut immigration, we want to cut taxes. to show people taxes. we need to show people how we're going to do it. and in order do that, we do need to order to do that, we do need to change the bureaucracy. we do need empower government and need to empower government and politicians to be able to deliver . deliver. >> that was liz truss that talked to me earlier before she spoke at this popcorn event just launched. and with me now is lord david frost, who is lord frost. david frost, who is in audience, david frost, in the audience, david frost, how find that? it seemed how did you find that? it seemed actually strangely upbeat for a party so far behind in the polls. >> yeah, i thought it was a really interesting or even inspiring event, actually, with a good speakers saying a a lot of good speakers saying a lot of things i agreed with. >> i think the way, the >> i think the best way, the best we've got of winning best chance we've got of winning this whenever comes, this election whenever it comes, is some really , really is for some really, really popular policies. >> , change, democracy, >> reform, change, democracy, getting a grip on the institutions, delivering what brexit was about. that's what i heard today. >> that was great. and we heard jacob rees—mogg, of course, who also broadcasts on gb news. >> of course he's a senior >> but of course he's a senior tory he was saying that the tory mp. he was saying that the age of davos man is over. was

age of davos man is over. he was looking the continent at the looking to the continent at the farmers protest, saying there is a widespread about, um, a widespread concern about, um, unapproachable or far away institutions running people's lives. and he used that in the uk. didn't he talk about echr withdrawal and other other , withdrawal and other other, other issues? >> yeah. and i wrote about that last week, actually in the telegraph that the, the problem we've got at the moment is a set of institutions that don't properly respond to what the british people want , which properly respond to what the british people want, which is why keep voting elections why we keep voting at elections and not getting entirely what people voted for. and while the institutions respond to kind of international law, international institutions , international ways institutions, international ways of doing things, they aren't going to deliver for the british people. and that's what we need to make happen if we're going to win. >> and liz truss spoken. she talked, didn't she, about why was a government minister meeting with greta thunberg. and that of course, was michael gove back in 2019. do you worry that the party has lost touch the tory party has lost touch with its grassroots? its happy amongst its happy in london

dinner parties, its happy in the m25 and there's this an attempt to reach out beyond that comfort blanket. i i think it's possible some tory parliamentarians have lost touch a bit with what the party and the country thinks. >> but but not all. and i think the party in the country , the party in the country, voters, members are really on board for a set of genuinely popular conservative policies that take back control , popular conservative policies that take back control, bring change, get the country going again, make it feel different. that's what that's what they want . that's what i hear every want. that's what i hear every time i'm out campaigning and speaking. and i'm sure that's what we can deliver. >> but your party, course, is >> but your party, of course, is in in government. >> but your party, of course, is in in government . why is in power, in government. why is this conversation happening in pubuc this conversation happening in public with journalists me public with journalists like me listening the listening? why not behind the scenes? why it shouldn't be feeding into manifesto feeding into the manifesto system? and then surprised labour some new policies? labour with some new policies? >> i mean, that's that's what i would like to see. i still hope that it might yet happen in the months before the election, but i we've got to get

i think what we've got to get beyond is this sense that a lot of conservatives now have, that we doomed to defeat, that we are doomed to defeat, that all we can do is wait, that we've set a path which isn't working all we can do working well, and all we can do is for the election. we is wait for the election. we still can win it. we still can change things. we still can put out popular policies and i think our voters and our members have got to see people making that case arguing for it in case and arguing for it in public, not just behind closed doors . doors. >> i can almost hear gb news viewers and radio listeners yelling at at their tv or radio saying, you've been in power for 14 years. uh, david frost, saying, you've been in power for 14 years. uh, david frost , why 14 years. uh, david frost, why do you need five more? >> the last five years haven't gone as well as we thought, for reasons we all know about covid a few other things we've not really been in power for 14 years. some of it was in coalition, but there's no doubt we should have delivered more. there's no doubt we should have delivered and we all bear delivered more. and we all bear our responsibility that. our responsibility for that. that that the that doesn't mean that the reaction is to hand over to keir starmer and a bunch of

socialists. things socialists. it's to get things right, can't expect right, but we can't expect people to trust us unless we can put out the programme, show that it's to be different, show it's going to be different, show that deliver the that we can yet deliver the change that people want. >> i must ask you about yourself as a as well. you're a parliamentarian, but also you want to an mp. want the want to be an mp. you want the approved candidates. are approved list of candidates. are you to be an and have you going to be an mp and have you going to be an mp and have you got a seat yet? >> i'm still looking. i'm looking pursuing looking for seats. i'm pursuing a number of possibilities. we'll have they play have to see how they they play out. course , the prospect for out. of course, the prospect for mps actually winning seats for the conservative party is not getting any easier over the last yeah getting any easier over the last year. but nevertheless, i'm positive and with a bit of luck , positive and with a bit of luck, it still happen. it could still happen. >> concerned about big >> are you concerned about big beasts leaving the kwasi beasts leaving the stage? kwasi kwarteng, announcing kwarteng, of course. announcing today at the today he's not standing at the next election. >> i every party >> well, i think every party needs to renew itself. every party needs new people coming forward. heard one great forward. we've heard one great new candidate today speaking here. there'll be many others, mari fraser. that's right . mari fraser. that's right. murray fraser. fantastic speech. really good ideas. we there's more of that coming through. so

every party renews itself. and that's what's happening. >> nora forster. thank you. well, lord frost, they're enthused event which could enthused by an event which could have felt funereal but didn't. and that may offer some hope for this party in the future . this party in the future. >> chris. absolutely fascinating stuff. i've been i've been munching on the popcorn all the way through . um, thank you so way through. um, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest from the launch of popular conservatism in popular conservatism there in central yeah, great central london. yeah, it's great to david liz to hear from david frost and liz truss herself. >> good stuff. well, back in the studio, we still have philip davies your reaction ? davies mp. your reaction? >> yeah. look, i mean this is like they've got something to sell that actually people will listen they're selling listen to. they're selling conservatives. irony is, conservatives. um, the irony is, of that actually the of course, is that actually the prime minister that's actually the delivering on the closest to delivering on this rishi this agenda is actually rishi sunak, than far more sunak, far more than far more than boris johnson. >> well, she stuck the boot into rishi saying that he's rishi sunak, saying that he's failed wing failed to counter left wing extremism . extremism. >> well, take all four issues, okay. the campaigning on, first of all, immigration. rishi is just introduced new rules which will reduce the level of boris

left us with a very liberal immigration system because he was a liberal on immigration. he was, when he was mayor of, of london, been to exactly. she she wanted growth visas. she wanted to from to increase immigration from a very level. rishi has very high level. rishi has actually introduced new to actually introduced new rules to make to bring make it harder to can't bring dependents in. now you can't. you have earn before you have to earn more before you bring, allowed bring, before you're allowed into the country. he's into the country. so he's actually delivering on that part of net boris of the agenda. net zero boris was a net zero fanatic. uh, absolute fanatic on net zero. rishi has actually delayed the ban new petrol and diesel ban on new petrol and diesel cars. new banning oil and gas boilers . so cars. new banning oil and gas boilers. so he's much cars. new banning oil and gas boilers . so he's much closer. boilers. so he's much closer. >> he reversed. liz truss's liberalisation of the rules for shale gas exploration in on onshore in the uk. >> look i'm in favour of shale gas. that was that wasn't going to happen right. but in terms of the net zero agenda, rishi is delivering more on this than bofis delivering more on this than boris ever did. okay. on nanny state boris was the man, remember, wanted to ban buy remember, who wanted to ban buy one, get one free offers. >> rishi sunak's smoking. >> hold on tom and rishi sunak

scrapped that ban on buy one, get 1 to 2 now. i agree with you on the smoking ban, which is completely ludicrous. totally on the smoking ban, which is complwith ludicrous. totally on the smoking ban, which is complwith that. :rous. totally on the smoking ban, which is complwith that. but.. totally on the smoking ban, which is complwith that. but of totally on the smoking ban, which is complwith that. but of course agree with that. but of course bofis agree with that. but of course boris delivered biggest boris delivered the biggest nanny all time, which nanny state of all time, which was restrictions during covid time restrictions. they time limited restrictions. they weren't. they went on for two years. destroyed they years. they destroyed time, they destroyed the destroyed the destroyed the they destroyed the economy. destroyed the economy. they destroyed the economy, lower taxes. but you can't seriously, you can't seriously compare a covid lockdown with an infinite ban on smoking? >> well, i don't agree with the ban on i don't agree with the ban on i don't agree with the ban on i don't agree with the ban on smoking. >> i've just said i don't agree with the ban on smoking, but bofis with the ban on smoking, but boris was the one who wanted all those lockdowns. rishi didn't. the has shown the covid inquiry has shown those and on final those messages. and on the final thing lowering taxes, thing on lowering taxes, actually, made actually, rishi always made clear in the leadership election actually, rishi always made cleeinflation.eadership election actually, rishi always made cleeinflation down, .hip election actually, rishi always made cleeinflation down, then lection actually, rishi always made cleeinflation down, then i'llion get inflation down, then i'll cut is what nigel cut taxes, which is what nigel lawson him to do, by the lawson advised him to do, by the way. and what has he done? inflation down and he's inflation has come down and he's now perhaps of now starting on perhaps one of the reasons had the the reasons boris had the highest taxes who was highest rate of taxes in who was his chancellor, boris was the

first of the treasury, first lord of the treasury, one of prime ministers. of the prime ministers. >> sunak didn't win >> why rishi sunak didn't win against liz truss was he raised national insurance. he's national insurance. now he's boasting he boasting about cutting as he made it's inconsistent. made clear it's inconsistent. >> it's not all >> rishi no, it's not at all because rishi basically because rishi was basically trying that we had trying to make sure that we had sound money to with boris sound money to cope with boris spending sprees right now. now sound money to cope with boris spe don't sprees right now. now sound money to cope with boris spedon't havees right now. now sound money to cope with boris spe don't have that|ht now. now sound money to cope with boris spedon't have that sortow. now sound money to cope with boris spedon't have that sort of. now we don't have that sort of desire money as if it's desire to spend money as if it's going of fashion. rishi has going out of fashion. rishi has kept his promise to cut taxes. so whether it's cutting immigration, or or immigration, cutting taxes or or the other two items, rishi is actually the closest prime minister to actually delivering on this popular conservatism agenda, which is why it's not popular conservatism. it's conservatism . we all agree on conservatism. we all agree on these matters. >> philip. now, you will know better than i do that there are many different versions of conservatism, and we see them represented in the conservative party, liz truss, the free market variety. but you do also have paternalistic conservatives , what some may call one nation conservatives are are you at risk of having the blinkers on by saying, oh, you know, this is the only conservative ism, this

is conservatism. it's a conservatism i believe in. >> and if conservative, i'm not the only one, though, is it? well, we are a broad church, obviously, just like the labour party is a broad church. all, you know, our system, we put you know, in our system, we put our coalitions together before the rather after. the election rather than after. it's similar system. just the election rather than after. it's the ilar system. just the election rather than after. it's the other/stem. just the election rather than after. it's the other wayn. just the election rather than after. it's the other way around. st the election rather than after. it's the other way around. so done the other way around. so yes, we're broad church, but yes, we're a broad church, but look, key theme of look, the key theme of conservatism has always been a belief free market rather belief in the free market rather than state. that's key than the state. that's a key tenet conservative belief tenet of conservative belief that market is the is that the free market is the is preferable to interference preferable to state interference , we believe in low taxes preferable to state interference , peopleelieve in low taxes preferable to state interference , people should| low taxes preferable to state interference , people should keep taxes preferable to state interference , people should keep more that people should keep more of their that people their own money, and that people spend own money better spend their own money better than spends for than the state spends it for them. that people make decisions for better than for themselves better than the state for them. key state make for them. there key conservative principles which should anybody should really apply to anybody who's to be who's a conservative to be perfectly i think they do. >> are you worried that amidst all this, whether we're all of this, whether we're talking different strands talking about different strands of conservative philosophy , the of conservative philosophy, the labour party is putting out adverts on the cost of living and saying the conservatives are just amongst just fighting amongst themselves, not caring the themselves, not caring about the real that people out

real issues that people out there life really there are living life really facing this country. it's from the labour party's perspective , the labour party's perspective, quite a useful dichotomy . quite a useful dichotomy. >> yes. i mean, i agree, i mean, all of these initiatives, they're not particularly helpful. i'm not even sure they're designed to be helpful in know, in the sense that, you know, we've been we've tried out for the last few months the idea of a circular firing squad. and i think we've proved doubt. think we've proved beyond doubt. it doesn't work right in politics. firing politics. a circular firing squad doesn't work. actually if we actually concentrate we just actually concentrate on what united are, the what united us all are, the things that actually agree things that we actually agree with, rather than trying to find something we disagree with each other about and turned our attention on the labour party, who absolutely idea attention on the labour party, who they're absolutely idea attention on the labour party, who they're absoto:ely idea attention on the labour party, who they're absoto win idea attention on the labour party, who they're absoto win anidea that they're trying to win an election saying nothing, that they're trying to win an electi

for some of us, but is the government moving in the right direction all of these agenda direction on all of these agenda items can agree? items and everybody can agree? yes the government is moving in the four the right direction on all four of these items . of these agenda items. >> there you go. those are >> well, there you go. those are the words of philip davies mp, conservative mp for shipley. good stuff. >> absolutely. really fascinating . but up fascinating. but coming up before 1 pm, we're going to be talking to a university of bristol professor sacked for anti—zionist views . but before anti—zionist views. but before all of that, another huge story on our agenda today, the manhunt for the man accused of a chemical attack on the streets of .

radio. good afternoon britain. >> it'sjust radio. good afternoon britain. >> it's just gone 12:45. and the manhunt for the chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi has now entered its sixth day. this is

metropolitan police appeal for anyone with information to come forward . forward. >> yes. yesterday, a 22 year old man was arrested and later released on bail. that was for suspicion of assisting the alleged chemical attacker. now the suspect , abdul alleged chemical attacker. now the suspect, abdul ezedi, has been on the run since the attack on a woman and her two young girls in clapham. that was on wednesday. well we're now joined by news reporter addison wednesday. well we're now joined by new reporter addison wednesday. well we're now joined by new scotland addison wednesday. well we're now joined by new scotland yard ddison wednesday. well we're now joined by new scotland yard .dison outside new scotland yard. >> and ray, you've been covering this story best part of this story for the best part of a now . what more do we know ? >> well, the 7 >> well, the latest ? >> well, the latest update from the met police was delivered yesterday around about 6:00. when we got that image of the suspect, azadi , walking in along suspect, azadi, walking in along all hallows lane. he just left at the tower hill tube station and was approaching suffolk bridge. that image shows him wearing that distinctive black jacket , all wearing that distinctive black jacket, all zipped up his hands deepin jacket, all zipped up his hands deep in his pockets. the hood pulled down over his face, perhaps in an attempt to try and

cover up that distinctive injury to the right hand side of his face. and that really is the last known sighting of him. that was around 950 in the evening on wednesday of that incident. since then, we've heard that there has been the arrest in the early hours of yesterday morning of a 22 year old man , and he was of a 22 year old man, and he was taken to a south london police station and then bailed later on that afternoon . um, this is the that afternoon. um, this is the commander of the met, john saville, telling us a bit more about that arrest. >> we arrested a man in london on suspicion of assisting an offender . we took him to offender. we took him to a police station in south london, where we've interviewed him . where we've interviewed him. we're following up further lines of enquiry from there and i and i further urge anybody that's got any information to please come forward. we are saying that members of the public, if they do see him now , don't approach do see him now, don't approach him. ring 999 and we'll get there quickly and we'll arrest

him. we are keeping a very open mind as to what where he may be on what might have happened to him, but the cctv at the moment, there's no suggestion that he's gone near the . water gone near the. water >> well, police are tracking azad's bank card, which he's been using to navigate the city's underground stations. they say that hasn't been used since wednesday evening. two possibilities. either he's come to some form of harm, or now he's being sheltered very interesting indeed, ray. >> thank you very much for bringing us that latest update from outside new scotland yard. where could he be, tom? >> i know, i know and no, no sighting of him and no credit card use since wednesday evening . well, it does leave one possibility perhaps he is no longer walking on this earth, but who knows so well, shall we move on? >> because this is an interesting one. a university academic who was sacked after criticising israel has successfully claimed that he was discriminated against his discriminated against for his anti—zionist views.

>> professor david miller drew controversy during a lecture at bristol university in 2019 when he said the quote unquote zionist movement was one of five pillars driving islam phobia in the united kingdom . professor the united kingdom. professor miller has successfully claimed he'd been unfairly dismissed on the grounds of religion or belief . belief. >> yes, his lawyers said this judgement establishes, for the first time ever, that anti—zionist beliefs are now protected in the workplace. but the university union of jewish students say the ruling has left them feeling less safe. well, joining us now to discuss this is the chief executive at the campaign against antisemitism, gideon falter. gideon, uh, what do you make of what's happened with respect to david miller's, uh, dismissal from the university of bristol? i've been looking at some of the things that david miller has either written or said , and to me, they written or said, and to me, they sound rather extreme . sound rather extreme. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, there's no doubt about it. >> he is an extremist and a lot

of what he said, one would look at it and i think it'd be hard to draw a conclusion. certainly my opinion that he's anti—semitic and racist as a result of it, if you look, for example, saying that example, at him saying that jewish virtue of jewish students, by virtue of being members of the union of jewish students, which he has a problem with, um, are , you know, problem with, um, are, you know, posing a threat to muslim and arab students that he says that zionists need to be directly targeted on campus , all that targeted on campus, all that sort of thing. um this is quite extreme rhetoric coming from what someone who was a university professor and whilst he has one, uh, his employment, employment tribunal case, um , employment tribunal case, um, we're very concerned by it . um, we're very concerned by it. um, and we're hoping and expecting that the university of bristol will appeal it. we're actually looking with our own lawyers. um, whether we're able to take action as well. but it's not quite the win that being quite the win that is being portrayed um, first of all, portrayed as, um, first of all, under uk employment law, there is a very , very wide range, um, is a very, very wide range, um, and very low threshold of what

constitutes a philosophical belief or a protected belief. so, for example, ethical veganism , um, uh, has the status veganism, um, uh, has the status of being a philosophical belief just because it's a view that somebody holds that doesn't change over time. and it's not, uh, you know, it doesn't really mean anything, uh, that the tribunal has , as, um, has ruled tribunal has, as, um, has ruled in this way on that the tribunal did rule that his statements were, um, were irresponsible. um, and, and, um, extremely ill considered . and, and it found considered. and, and it found him culpable and blameworthy. um, they slashed his compensation by 50% and then by a further 30% on account of his conduct and on account of his conduct and on account of his conduct after he was dismissed as well. and they found that, um, actually , he, um, and i'm um, actually, he, um, and i'm quoting here, there was a realistic chance that the claimant, david miller, um, would have been dismissed. um, so there's a there's a chance that he would have been dismissed anyway over his conduct. the problem with this

case, and is the real, uh, case, and this is the real, uh, the real rub here is that the university of bristol doesn't actually seem to have made its case that he was anti—semitic and making anti—semitic statements . they seem to have statements. they seem to have made their case based on various other of his remarks. made their case based on various other of his remarks . and other of his remarks. and because of that, it was never an open question for the tribunal whether david miller is an anti—semite, whether what he said is anti—semitic. instead they were reviewing different remarks about zionism and the state of israel and things like that, which has sort of opened the door to this , to this the door to this, to this verdict that we now have that he was unfairly dismissed . it's not was unfairly dismissed. it's not the case that he's going to be reinstated. reinstatement was never on the cards. he has been strongly criticised by the tribunal and this is still nonetheless us a judgement that we are concerned by and we're hoping to take action over gideon. >> we have very little time. but just for those watching who might not know what zionism is

or why jewish people in particular, so many jewish people feel that people who express what they call anti—zionism really does mean to some people , anti—jewishness some people, anti—jewishness i mean, it's fundamental. >> well, article one of the un charter gives all peoples the right to self—determination . right to self—determination. zionism is simply the movement that says that jews have the exact same rights to self—determination as everybody else. so you say that you're anti—zionist. you're basically saying that you are against jews having the same rights of self—determination given to all people earth by the un charter. >> well, thank you very much indeed for making that so succinct. falter, is succinct. gideon falter, who is the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism . campaign against anti—semitism. now, bristol now, the university of bristol has a statement saying has issued a statement saying they're disappointed the they're disappointed with the decision. next hour decision. and in the next hour we be speaking to david we will be speaking to david miller, professor himself , miller, the professor himself, that was dismissed from the university city. this is good afternoon, britain on . gb news. afternoon, britain on. gb news. a brighter outlook with boxt

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>> it is 1:00 on tuesday the 6th of february. >> prince harry heads home the duke of sussex is expected to arrive in london imminently to see his father after the king was diagnosed with a form of cancen was diagnosed with a form of cancer. could we now see harry brought back into the fold ? brought back into the fold? >> manhunt. day six abdul ezedi still eludes police capture . for still eludes police capture. for almost a week after his vicious chemical attack in south london, the last time the have a go christian was seen was on january the 31st. is he even still alive ? still alive? >> popcorn at the ready for prime minister liz truss, along with other senior conservatives, has launched a new campaign group for lower taxes, less regulation and an end to what they call net zero zealotry, along with robust control of our borders. but is anyone listening i >> -- >> well, a m >> well, a lot of you did like

what you heard from the former prime minister, liz truss in your minds, perhaps she was the one who got away. some of you not so sure, though, were mark has written in, he says just the same pompous drivel. too little way too late in the day. liz truss, the one that got away. the one who needs to go away more. more like. but john says love. liz truss's speech . that's love. liz truss's speech. that's what he said , succinct and to what he said, succinct and to the point. >> and i think it was interesting talking to philip davies about what this group was all about. philip davies, of course, shipley was course, the mp for shipley was not at the launch of popcorn, but he was saying, well, he agrees the and agrees with the aims and principles. he was just asking why there need be why does there need to be another group? also another group? he was also fairly critical of liz truss's time prime minister, saying time as prime minister, saying she wants cut but not she wants to cut taxes but not cut spending as well. and i think that is a legitimate criticism liz truss . there criticism of liz truss. there are many illegitimate criticisms , truss, in my , criticisms of liz truss, in my view , particularly, uh, pinning view, particularly, uh, pinning world events that happened while she was in office on her. i think is unfair, but i think it

is fair to suggest that if you're going to cut taxes, you should probably cut spending as well, rather than a cut taxes and a massively increased spending, which is at the same time, which is what she did because she announced a huge energy package, didn't she? >> the time as massive >> at the same time as massive paye cuts, isn't the paye tax cuts, which isn't the best thing to do according to the markets anyway. linda says liz truss reminded us of many valuable lessons that have been eroded the few years, eroded over the last few years, so hope her observations so let's hope her observations were heard other politicians so let's hope her observations werehaved other politicians so let's hope her observations were have let other politicians so let's hope her observations were have let the fer politicians so let's hope her observations werehave let the importantans who have let the important issues wayside. so issues fall by the wayside. so strong from linda issues fall by the wayside. so strong liz from linda issues fall by the wayside. so strong liz truss)m linda issues fall by the wayside. so strong liz truss .n linda issues fall by the wayside. so strong liz truss . i'm1da issues fall by the wayside. so strong liz truss . i'm not sure towards liz truss. i'm not sure how many of her colleagues will be listened ing rishi sunak probably not, but hey, but i suppose this is all more about what happens after the election rather than before it. >> battle for the soul of >> the battle for the soul of the conservative party. but we'll get on to that and much more news after your more royal news after your headunes . headlines with sam. >> tom. emily, thank you very much. and good afternoon from

the gb newsroom. it's just gone. 1:00 more on our top story today, prince harry. we expect, will arrive in london soon as the king undergoes treatment for an unspecified form of cancer. it's unclear whether prince harry will meet with his brother, the prince of wales, who's expected to be carrying out some of his father's royal dufiesin out some of his father's royal duties in the coming weeks. his majesty reportedly did tell his sons about his diagnosis before buckingham palace made the announcement last night. palace officials are hoping the news encourages others who are affected by the illness . affected by the illness. meanwhile, members of the public have shared their best wishes for the king with gb news, but that he was already in hospital and he'd had the obviously the enlarged prostate. >> and they understand from reading news this morning, reading the news this morning, it's not prostate that it's it's not the prostate that it's worried another form it's not the prostate that it's wc cancer. another form it's not the prostate that it's wccancer. um, another form it's not the prostate that it's wccancer. um, but another form it's not the prostate that it's wccancer. um, but the ther form it's not the prostate that it's wccancer. um, but the fact form it's not the prostate that it's wccancer. um, but the fact that of cancer. um, but the fact that it's been caught mega early , you it's been caught mega early, you know, hopefully he should be fine. crossed. fine. fingers crossed. >> think it's sad. it's >> i just think it's sad. it's the same as any family. if someone sort of news, someone gets that sort of news, obviously it's going to be

devastating . uh, but i suppose devastating. uh, but i suppose he's handling it pretty well at first. >> so sad. really with the loss of the queen not long ago now he's having cancer. yeah, it's a sad time . sad time. >> more developments in another story. making the news today. police say they believe they there are people who know the whereabouts of the man suspected in a recent chemical attack, who've chosen to not come forward. abdul ezedi is wanted in connection with the attack in south london. that left a woman critically injured and now in danger of losing her eyesight in one eye. police are warning that anyone found to have assisted the suspect will face arrest . the suspect will face arrest. that comes after a 22 year old man was arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. he, though, has since been released on bail. azt was last seen leaving tower hill tube station in east london just after 930 last wednesday evening . police last wednesday evening. police are urging anyone with information to come forward . liz information to come forward. liz truss has said democracy has

become unpopular. that's a that's a she unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas , the popular conservative ideas, the popular conservatives movement or pop con, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the liberal democrats , though, have liberal democrats, though, have accused some of those present at today's launch of economic vandalism. but mistrust told gb news earlier she thinks left wing ideas have gone too far. >> one of the problems we have is, though, we've got a conservative government what we're seeing in our schools , in we're seeing in our schools, in our universities, in our corporate sector is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas. people of britain want us to deal with the real issues immigration is too high. the government's too big, taxes are too high. but what we constantly hearis too high. but what we constantly hear is the left. so popcorn is about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging the left wing orthodoxy and making it positive to be a . conservative.

to be a. conservative. >> a 46 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of malicious communications. ian. that's following reports of an abusive and threatening phone call to a conservative mps office. mike freer announced his decision to quit politics last week. he told gb news that's because he fears for his safety. the justice minister has been the target of several death threats in recent weeks, and an arson attack on his constituency office this around 8 million people will receive the last of three cost of living payments from today. the money will be paid by the department for work and pensions directly into bank accounts of those eligible , and accounts of those eligible, and they don't need to apply . it's they don't need to apply. it's they don't need to apply. it's the third of up to three payments totalling up to £900 for some households on means tested benefits to help alleviate the cost of living pressures . the safety of pressures. the safety of regulation and artificial intelligence is to get £100 million boost. downing street

hopes the funding will help make britain a leader in the emerging ai sector. a series of research hubs will be set up across the uk , and regulators will be given uk, and regulators will be given training to help tackle evolving challenges in fields such as finance, education and health care , and finally, some care, and finally, some political too news well sink your teeth into who writes these? i don't know, a set of dentures once worn by winston churchill are up for auction . churchill are up for auction. the false teeth were worn by former prime minister during many of his most famous speeches , and were designed to protect his natural lisp. they'll go under the hammer in cheltenham with an expected price of around £8,000 in june . for the latest £8,000 in june. for the latest stories , you can sign up to gb stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> well, we have some breaking

news, so let's go straight to buckingham palace now and speak to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker . ah, cameron. cameron walker. ah, cameron. where is cameron? cameron not on the sofa turned into a sofa. >> um, let's hope we can speak to cameron walker now. who is outside buckingham palace with some breaking news for us. cameron, what is this . news well cameron, what is this. news well , well, i will not announce the news because it's to our royal correspondent. see if we can establish connection with cameron walker. cameron, take it away . away. >> hello? tom, can you hear me ? >> hello? tom, can you hear me? >> hello? tom, can you hear me? >> i can indeed. we've got there in the end. great. perfect >> uh, it appears prince harry has landed at heathrow airport . has landed at heathrow airport. what a photograph which has been reported shows a range rover. two blacks out range rovers in a police leaving the tarmac at heathrow. he was spotted at lax very early this morning, which would have been overnight at los

angeles time. presumably he was on a flight across the atlantic , on a flight across the atlantic, uh, to where he is now on his way to central london to see his majesty the king, a source close to the sussexes, close to prince harry, last night confirmed that prince harry been told prince harry has been told personally by the king about king charles's cancer diagnosis and that he was going to be travelling to london in the coming days to see his father. now, of course, king prince harry has not been on the best of terms with his father in recent years, following his bombshell memoir spare and the netflix documentary series. but clearly appears to be clearly this appears to be serious enough. king charles's cancer diagnosis for prince harry to want to leave los angeles and come to the united kingdom to spend time with his father . so just to repeat that father. so just to repeat that news, it appears prince harry, we haven't had official confirmation , but it looks like confirmation, but it looks like from the pictures we're receiving prince harry receiving that prince harry has landed heathrow airport and landed at heathrow airport and is his way into central is on his way into central london escort london in a police escort towards clarence house, where king charles is staying, who

will be concerned with the apparent rush that prince harry is making here. >> initially, he said he would be coming in a few days. now he's got the first flight over a police escort to clarence house should we be? we be more worried about the king's health than perhaps we initially were . perhaps we initially were. >> i don't think there's any cause for particular alarm. the telegraph in the last hour has been reporting that the king is on his usual good form following his treatment yesterday, and he's actually a little frustrated as more anything frustrated as more than anything about impact his diagnosis about the impact his diagnosis is on others . so he's is having on others. so he's certainly thinking of others rather than himself. his majesty the king, the looks of it . as the king, by the looks of it. as we heard from the prime minister this morning, rishi sunak was alluding he felt he alluding to the fact he felt he was quite relieved that the cancer had been caught early. and of course, medical experts tell us that if the cancer is caught early, it is far more treatable and i think if there was more cause for alarm, there would be a lot more activity

around london. and it appears to be pretty much business as usual for queen camilla, carrying on with engagements as normal. prince william also doing the same thing. so i think it's more of a friendly gesture from a son to his father than any cause for alarm. well hopefully it will come as some comfort to the king. >> charles. thank you very much. gb news royal correspondent cameron walker outside buckingham palace. good stuff. >> well, let's discuss this further. now we're joined by the author of king charles the third new king, new court, the inside story. robert hardman. thank you so much for your time this afternoon. this has come as quite a shock to many , many quite a shock to many, many people. just as king charles's reign has got going , it's reign has got going, it's a rather large bump in the road. >> well , it rather large bump in the road. >> well, it certainly is. i mean, none of us were expecting anything like this. uh, less than a year and a half into his reign, and both his parents lived to ripe old age. uh, lived to a ripe old age. uh, and, uh, the king leads very

fit, abstemious lifestyle . um, fit, abstemious lifestyle. um, he's a keen walker. he fit, abstemious lifestyle. um, he's a keen walker . he doesn't he's a keen walker. he doesn't eat or drink very much. uh doesn't even eat lunch. um so, uh, you know. yes we we're all worried , but, um, yesterday worried, but, um, yesterday afternoon, you know, rumours started swirling around. some of them were quite bleak. rumours so when we actually got the statement that we received, it was, i think actually quite upbeat. it was it was a sort of okay, we're going to try and keep business as usual, uh, as much as we possibly can. um, certainly the constitutional side of his duties are unaffected . uh, he's going to unaffected. uh, he's going to carry on with his meetings with ministers, particularly the prime minister. the red boxes all that stuff. uh, the big difference is, for now, he's having to cancel all his public engagements because his medical team don't want him going into crowded situations. um, full of, you know, strangers who may have some sort of germs, infections , some sort of germs, infections, whatever. so, um, it's a practical, pragmatic response at

the moment. there's certainly no sense of panic. uh, there's no sense of panic. uh, there's no sense of panic. uh, there's no sense of , um, sense of panic. uh, there's no sense of, um, of any major, um, change to any of the sort of constitutional machinery. if you like. i mean, there are mechanisms in place for when we have either an ill or an incapacitated monarch, but no one is dusting those off robert yet as cameron walker, uh, mentioned earlier just now, he said a the telegraph are reporting that a palace source says, uh, king charles is unusual good form in every way. >> just a little frustrated that his condition has affected not just his own plans , but impacted just his own plans, but impacted on others . now, as a man who on others. now, as a man who took , uh, 516 engaged moments took, uh, 516 engaged moments last year , 94 of which were last year, 94 of which were abroad , uh, this must be a huge abroad, uh, this must be a huge frustration for him. he wants to get on with the job he does. >> i mean, he loves , uh, >> i mean, he loves, uh, interaction with the public. he likes crowds. he likes walkabouts . one of the problems walkabouts. one of the problems they normally have with him on they normally have with him on the road is trying to keep to

time, because just as he's going from one engagement to another, he'll sort of see a crowd of people over road for people and pop over the road for a chat. and it's one of the, uh, one of one of queen camilla's great skills in these situations is only person is she's about the only person who can, uh, give him a prod . who can, uh, give him a prod. she often uses the sharp corner of her handbag in the small of his back to sort of give him a reminder. look, it's time we moved on. yeah, he enjoys meeting the public. he always has done . uh, meeting the public. he always has done. uh, and meeting the public. he always has done . uh, and that's going has done. uh, and that's going to be the greatest frustration. i'm not sure he'll be the greatest patient. i imagine they are trying to ration the paperwork , the correspondence, paperwork, the correspondence, the bump , the briefing notes. the bump, the briefing notes. um, that he likes receiving , the bump, the briefing notes. um, that he likes receiving, uh, as one of his, um , former aides as one of his, um, former aides said to me, you know, you could never put too much on his plate . never put too much on his plate. um, he is very used to working late , um, pushing himself. if late, um, pushing himself. if you like. and i think that's that's obviously going to have to slow down a bit and, and somebody's got to tell him that

it's interesting to see how open relatively the royal family has been about this diagnosis. >> if we compare it to the lack of information we heard about the king's mother or indeed the king's grandfather , uh, uh, we king's grandfather, uh, uh, we knew virtually nothing about their health. why do you think it is that the king has been much, much more open about his own health at and potentially has this opened ? uh, a bit of has this opened? uh, a bit of a tncky has this opened? uh, a bit of a tricky situation for the royal family. some information , but family. some information, but not complete information . we're not complete information. we're left guessing . left guessing. >> well, it's a good question. i actually, i think it's entirely in keeping with the kind of tone of this rain very early on. um, you know, within hours, certainly days of the king becoming king. we were just seeing sort of slight shifts in the way that the palace and the monarchy communicate. i mean , monarchy communicate. i mean, after elizabeth the second became, um, queen uh, in 1952,

uh, it was months, ten months, in fact, before, um, we heard her voice in public. uh, we had to wait till her christmas broadcast . he was straight on broadcast. he was straight on the airwaves the next day. the day after that, at, um, the accession council , the privy accession council, the privy council on screen . i mean, council on screen. i mean, that's unheard of at. and, you know, just generally in the day to day course of things, we're just used to seeing, um, one of his, um, staff described to me as a more informal formality. um he's just more comfortable with this sort of communication. he's as i say, he's of his generation . um, his his parents did not like discussing these sort of things, and nor did, uh, that generation and the generation before. i mean, when george vi , before. i mean, when george vi, uh, was, was very ill. i mean , uh, was, was very ill. i mean, everyone tiptoed around and no one ever, um, used words like cancen one ever, um, used words like cancer. it was just, um, it was kept quiet. robert just a quick word from you on prince harry. >> dashing back from, uh, los angeles to see his, uh, to see

his father. could this be be the rekindling of a of their relationship? their father son relationship? >> i mean, you clearly it's sort of, you know, we all hope that it is the building of some sort of bridge . um, the relationship of bridge. um, the relationship between harry and his father is has been, uh , it never went away has been, uh, it never went away . i mean, it's clearly under a great deal of strain. following the publication of spare, following the six part netflix documentary , uh, following, um, documentary, uh, following, um, endless interviews where the couple have made clear they were not happy with their royal lot. um, but but the lines of communication have never been completely severed . um, and i completely severed. um, and i think, you know, this this bodes well. i think the fact that, uh, harry's got on a plane that hasn't been barely, hasn't been a lot of, um, haggling over this. it's a very straightforward. it's a son coming to his father's bedside at a time of need. i think it'd be a great comfort to the king. um, i next question will be. how

long he stay ? does he meet long does he stay? does he meet his brother? um does out his brother? um does he put out any sort statement? i suspect any sort of statement? i suspect he want upstage , um, he won't want to upstage, um, the king. i think it'll be all kept quite, um. quite low key. um, but it's it cannot be anything but a good thing. >> well, we'll keep checking in on prince harry's visit. as he makes his way, we hear from heathrow to clarence house as we speak. but for now, robert hardman , thank you so much for hardman, thank you so much for joining us here on good afternoon britain. >> thank you very much. but >> yes, thank you very much. but let's to the manhunt for let's return to the manhunt for the chemical suspect the chemical attack suspect abdul it's now in its abdul ezedi. it's now in its sixth day. that says the metropolitan police appeal for anyone with information to come forward with a £20,000 reward. >> yesterday day, a 22 year old man was arrested and later released on bail for suspicion of assisting the alleged chemical attacker. the suspect, abdul ezedi , has been on the run abdul ezedi, has been on the run since the attack of on a woman and her two young girls in clapham last wednesday. >> yes, we are now joined by gb news reporter ray addison, who's

been keeping close eye on this been keeping a close eye on this case. we're now into the sixth day. do you have any updates on the police investigation in. well it would appear that the last known sighting , the last last known sighting, the last confirmed sighting of azadi was wednesday evening. >> so obviously the day that this horrific attack took place, he was spotted at 950. he left tower hill tube station and was walking across all hallows lane in the direction of suffolk bridge. that's why the police say they're focusing their attention on south london. that's where they suspect he may have taken some form of shelter. we know that before he left newcastle on that wednesday, he didn't amass a large amount of cash. we know also that he's lost his mobile phone. he left his mobile . phone in the car and his mobile. phone in the car and then we see this sort of potentially erratic behaviour where he's travelled from south london to north london and then

back to the south again. now, is that a man who knows exactly what he's doing? got a plan what he's doing? he's got a plan , is it somebody who's trying , or is it somebody who's trying to make it up as he goes along? now, of course, for the police, they'll be hoping that he certainly have a plan. certainly doesn't have a plan. didn't all prepared in didn't have this all prepared in advance. will give them advance. and that will give them advance. and that will give them a chance of catching him . a better chance of catching him. they've through they've been sifting through hundreds of phone calls to this 24 hour hotline. they've got specialists , officers who are specialists, officers who are ponng specialists, officers who are poring over again hundreds of hours of cctv footage as well. but the biggest lead seeming to be that location on the wednesday night. and then this arrest of this 22 year old man on suspicion of assisting an offender . this on suspicion of assisting an offender. this is met commander john saville, explaining more on that arrest. we arrested a man in london on suspicion of assisting an offender , and we assisting an offender, and we took him to a police station in south london, where we've interviewed him. >> we're following up further lines of enquiry from there , and lines of enquiry from there, and i and i further urge anybody

that's got any information to please come forward . we are please come forward. we are saying that members of the public, if they do see him now, now, don't approach him. ring 999 and we'll get there quickly and we'll arrest him. we are keeping a very open mind as to what where he may be and what might have happened to him. >> now, police would not tell us what part of london that 22 year old man was arrested in. but you can perhaps draw some significance from the fact that he was taken to a south london police station. we know now that the focus is on south london police tracking his bank card say it hasn't been used since that wednesday night. so if he didn't have pockets full of cash, he hasn't used his bank card. he's got no mobile phone . card. he's got no mobile phone. has he hunkered down or has he come to some form of harm ? come to some form of harm? >> really, really deep questions to be asking ourselves and indeed for the police to be digging into . but ray allison, digging into. but ray allison, for now, thank you very much for bringing us that story. >> thanks very. coming

>> yes, thanks very. but coming up, the best way to ditch up, what's the best way to ditch junk food? of the nhs junk food? the head of the nhs wants ban , but is that the way wants a ban, but is that the way forward to a healthier, happier nafion? forward to a healthier, happier nation? or the nanny nation? or is that the nanny state gone you're watching. state gone mad? you're watching. good on .

radio. >> so well , hello. the head of >> so well, hello. the head of the nhs has said that to tackle the nhs has said that to tackle the uk's obesity crisis and create a healthier nation, there needs to be action that goes beyond the nhs . beyond the nhs. >> yes, this comes as new yougov polling data for the times revealed that the public support tougher action on junk food. >> yes, so things like taxes on sugar , things like banning sugar, things like banning adverts for junk food on the tv and social media, things like that. more regulation in order to help us eat more healthily. so should we go the whole way? well, we're asking, should we go the whole way and just ban junk food altogether? it is, after all, fat. all, making us fat. >> well , joining us is to >> well, joining us now is to debate is the former

debate this is the former presenter of fat families, steve miller, and the and miller, and the writer and columnist wolf. now emma, columnist emma wolf. now emma, let's start with you. junk food. some people might say, is fine if you eat it in moderation . if if you eat it in moderation. if you have self—control, what's the issue with this kind of food ? >> well, the 7 >> well, the issue is that, of course, treats are absolutely fine. but the issue is we have a looming health crisis for our children. forget covid, we have around some somewhere around 22 to 25% of ten year olds now with obesity, we have a huge we have 10% of reception age children. that's three and four year old children who are now obese. this is we have absolutely . 100,000 is we have absolutely. 100,000 children admitted to hospital to have rotting teeth, decaying teeth from removed in hospital. >> okay , so this is not an issue >> okay, so this is not an issue of it's just a matter of choice. this is an issue of childhood

neglect, parental responsibility , a massive billions of pounds cost to the nhs . and we need to cost to the nhs. and we need to do something about this. >> emma, in an ideal world, though, in an ideal world, would you ban junk food? would you rather just not have you ban junk food? would you ratherjust not have any of it rather just not have any of it available for people? >> absolutely. i would not have this sugary, high fat , high this sugary, high fat, high sugan this sugary, high fat, high sugar, high salt, high fat food available. i would not have supermarket offers, you know, buy one, get one free on junk food. i would not have parents feeding their children sugary dnnksin feeding their children sugary drinks in their prams at the age of, you know, 2 or 3, you know, in terms of drink, milk and water is absolutely fine for children. children do not need to fed constant junk as to be fed constant junk as snacks. fine . it's normal. snacks. it's fine. it's normal. it's healthy for a child to get hungry to in meals. we are obsessed with snacking. we live in obese eugenic society where everything , everything is about everything, everything is about food. cathy says taking a snack , food. cathy says taking a snack, going, going out to eat, cooking all of this. the main thing is, is that it's a very, very

unhealthy legacy for a young child to start off overweight or obese. and until parents and until we actually need to crack down on this, we need to ban this kind of junk food machines from schools, from hospitals , from schools, from hospitals, from schools, from hospitals, from sports centres. i mean , from sports centres. i mean, where i go swimming, there are junk food machines in the lobby of a sports centre. >> well, let's turn this over to steve miller. now, steve, all we need to do is ban it. >> well, i think it's true. we've got to put less junk into our trunk, so to speak , because our trunk, so to speak, because we are a nation of porky peckers, frankly. but i'm not into banning. >> i think it's ridiculous. i think it's a theory. >> i think it's ridiculous. i think it's a theory . see what think it's a theory. see what emma's talking about to ban all junk food. i also think it's unfair on those that are actually those the people that take responsibility . why should take responsibility. why should they be penalised for enjoying they be penalised for enjoying the odd chocolate bar, the odd doughnut and putting their head in the odd trifle? i think it would be ridiculous, but i do think emma raises a very good

point when it comes to child obesity and that comes down to the parents. the parents are power when it comes to what children eat, and frankly, when it comes to things like junk food machines, well , where are food machines, well, where are they getting the money from? they're the they're getting it from the parents. so actually we need to be tougher . agree? we need to be be tougher. agree? we need to be stronger. we need to be more direct. and that, i'm afraid, also means banning these ridiculous campaigns where everyone says , oh, it's great to everyone says, oh, it's great to love your curves. in other words, it's great to love yourself being a fatty. oh steve, that's where i disagree with you because there are people who just are a bit heavier and we shouldn't dismiss miss them from, you know , being miss them from, you know, being being attractive. >> you can be overweight and attractive , can't you, steve? attractive, can't you, steve? >> no no no no , i'm you're >> no no no no, i'm you're misquoting me . i'm not saying misquoting me. i'm not saying that. what i am saying is it is wrong to encourage people to love themselves fat. and what we love themselves fat. and what we love in this country is we like these euphemisms. we call it

curves or, you know, or you're looking a bit sassy, when in fact we all know what people are saying is actually, you're fat and what we shouldn't be doing is encouraging people to, to, to kind of applaud themselves fat and love themselves fat. that is wrong. because what you're doing is you're telling them to love themselves to an early grave. no, i think i think we don't ban junk food, but we certainly start putting over much firmer messages and letting people know, yes , less junk in your know, yes, less junk in your trunk , especially for the men. trunk, especially for the men. if they want to go from a pud to a stud. i tell you now, they've got to eat less junk. >> well, emma woolf, how about that? all we need is more personal responsibility. we don't take away the don't need to take away the temptation. just need to be temptation. we just need to be more with ourselves more disciplined with ourselves as well. >> i agree with emily that we shouldn't be. you know, we shouldn't be. you know, we should not be denigrating or criticising people if they are in a larger body. of course not. but be really, really but we need to be really, really clear that. we need to clear to stop that. we need to stop glorifying this kind of body positivity movement is not

stop glorifying this kind of bc not)ositivity movement is not stop glorifying this kind of bcnot healthy' movement is not stop glorifying this kind of bcnot healthy .�*novement is not stop glorifying this kind of bcnot healthy . when|ent is not stop glorifying this kind of bc not healthy . when it's is not is not healthy. when it's actually when we're trying to glorify by, you know, plus size or obesity, such as the singer lizzo, that is not a healthy size to be. that is not a healthy way for a body to live. but in terms of personal responsibility , that's okay. but responsibility, that's okay. but we also need to recognise that being overweight or underweight, and i've written a lot about anorexia and i've been very open about my own issues with, um, with, uh, eating disorders and all of that. and i believe that being overweight is has similar emotional , being overweight is has similar emotional, you know, it's a similar emotional crutch to being underweight. um, i think we need to be really aware that people struggle with this, that they use food as a crutch, as an emotional tool, that comfort eating is something that people turn to when they're in distress in other ways. so yes, it's about personal responsibility , about personal responsibility, but it's also about children and babies and young people. and when you're talking about that, you you need to you do need to you do need to start at regulation. start looking at regulation. because if parents won't take responsibility, like responsibility, it's a bit like the thing.

the tooth brushing thing. i don't want us to brush people's teeth in schools, but if the parents do it, then we do parents won't do it, then we do need to intervene to save the health children. shouldn't be health of children. shouldn't be having children then, should they? last last word you. >> just last last word to you. last word to you, steve. it seems that more regulations on bad food is very popular with the public. why do you expect that? is >> well, i think it's just until it happens. i think the public would regret it strongly . you would regret it strongly. you see, in japan, where the obesity rate is 5, they still have fast food chains and all of that, but they have a culture where it is they have a culture where it is the norm. they've embedded it very well into the culture to say that actually, if you're fat, you sort it out. you do own your body. yes, with support as well. when it comes down to child obesity, which we talked about here, it is the responsibility of the parents. and frankly, if you're not prepared to look after the health child, which health of your child, which includes you includes their weight, you should be having children in should not be having children in the first place. common sense to me, and i'm sure parents me, yes, and i'm sure parents shouldn't be too restrictive ehhen shouldn't be too restrictive either, because they want

either, because they don't want them other way and get them to go the other way and get obsessed little obsessed with eating as little as possible. >> there you go. thank you >> but there you go. thank you very much indeed. emma woolf, who writer columnist, who is a writer and columnist, and steve miller, presenter of fat families of course. >> what a smashing >> well, what a what a smashing debate though. >> us know what you think. >> let us know what you think. >> let us know what you think. >> i'm just i'm just little >> i'm just i'm just a little bit confused about what junk food is. when mayor food actually is. when the mayor of london ban adverts of london tried to ban adverts for food, he ended up forjunk food, he ended up banning adverts hummus. banning adverts for hummus. anyway we're going to anyway coming up, we're going to be the university of be joined by the university of bristol academic who won a landmark was landmark decision that he was discriminated because of discriminated against because of his anti—zionist beliefs. that's to come after your headlines with sam . with sam. >> good afternoon. from the gb news room. it's gone. 130. the headunes news room. it's gone. 130. the headlines this hour as we've been hearing in the last half hour or so, prince harry has touched down in london as the king undergoes treatment for an unspecified form of cancer. it's unclear whether prince harry will meet with his brother, the prince of wales, who is expected to carry out some of his

father's royal duties. his majesty reportedly told his sons about his diagnosis before buckingham palace made the announcement. palace officials hope the news encourages others who are affected by the illness . who are affected by the illness. a £20,000 reward is being offered for anyone with information on the whereabouts of a man who's wanted in connection with a chemical attack in south london. abdul ezedi is suspected of attacking a woman with a corrosive substance , leaving her with substance, leaving her with potentially life changing injuries. police are warning that anyone found to have assisted the suspect will face arrest . esdi was last seen arrest. esdi was last seen leaving tower hill tube station in east london just after 930 last wednesday evening . liz last wednesday evening. liz truss has said that democracy has become unpopular as she unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas as the popular conservative's movement, or popcorn, aims to take on what the former prime minister has called left wing extremists. the liberal

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radio. good afternoon britain. >> it's 1:39 radio. good afternoon britain. >> it's1:39 and as we learn that prince harry is currently in a police escort on the way from heathrow airport to clarence house to visit his father , let's discuss the father, let's discuss the implications for the royal family and the country. we're joined by former labour mp joined by the former labour mp stephen and broadcaster stephen pound and broadcaster mike parry . stephen pound and broadcaster mike parry. uh, stephen pound and broadcaster mike parry . uh, stephen, this is mike parry. uh, stephen, this is pretty extraordinary . a pretty pretty extraordinary. a pretty quick visit from prince harry

pretty rapidly getting over the atlantic. well, you can hardly blame him. >> um, you know, this is a pretty serious situation. >> and what's fascinating is that the juxtaposition of two stories in the papers today. on the hand, you've got his the one hand, you've got his majesty, who is still getting the boxes. still the red boxes. he's still actually looking all the actually looking at all the papers state. you know, he's papers of state. you know, he's still on still actually signing off on legislation. on the other hand, you've million people legislation. on the other hand, you"can't million people legislation. on the other hand, you"can't even million people legislation. on the other hand, you"can't even getion people legislation. on the other hand, you"can't even getion |of»ple legislation. on the other hand, you"can't even getion |of bed to who can't even get out of bed to do a flippin this do a flippin job in this country. i mean, it seems to be a bit of a difference there, doesn't it? >> well, this this is the >> well, this is this is the story the number of people story about the number of people who've themselves who've just declared themselves unfit they're ill. >> well, not only are they to declare themselves unfit for work, half of them work, but about half of them said they don't actually want job. >> and they're now saying they're suffering from something called is where called tech neck, which is where you home all on the you sit at home all day on the computer you your hurts computer and you your neck hurts or because you're or bad back because you're working i mean, what working from home. i mean, what a contrast. i mean, you know, i have say his his majesty is have to say his his majesty is really showing the way. and i think the rest of the people are just a drag on the economy. >> well, mike, there's some

truth king truth to that. isn't there, king charles? amazed charles? we were amazed this morning to that he had 516 morning to read that he had 516 engaged last year, 94 of engaged agents last year, 94 of which abroad, and that which were abroad, and that is a hard worker. >> it's incredible. >> uh, it's incredible. >> uh, it's incredible. >> forget he's now >> people forget now he's 75 now at 75. people have decided at 75. most people have decided to it a day. you know, i'm to call it a day. you know, i'm present company, present company, present company accepted. i'm accepted. but i mean, i'm a gentleman middle accepted. but i mean, i'm a gentisir.an middle accepted. but i mean, i'm a gentisir. 11 middle accepted. but i mean, i'm a gentisir. i mean, middle accepted. but i mean, i'm a gentisir. i mean, i middle accepted. but i mean, i'm a gentisir. i mean, i don't middle accepted. but i mean, i'm a gentisir. i mean, i don't thinkdle age, sir. i mean, i don't think i want to be working at 75. >> you probably will be, mike. we won't be able get you off we won't be able to get you off the telly. >> there's issues to raise >> there's two issues to raise with um, with his majesty with the, um, with his majesty the i haven't heard the king that i haven't heard discussed so far. >> could the stress of >> firstly, could the stress of having to sort the harry having to sort out the harry situation over the two situation over the last two years contributed to his years have contributed to his illness? because we know that stress does contribute to illness . illness. >> e can illness. >> can give you heart >> stress can give you heart attacks . attacks. >> stress give you nervous >> stress can give you nervous conditions . conditions. >> and i believe if you ask top doctors, say yes , it doctors, they'll say yes, it could be responsible for at least enhancing the king's, you know, anxiety . know, anxiety. >> and that anxiety in itself might have worked its way physically into his body. and the other issue i was very ill a

few years ago. i was in hospital for four months waiting for a heart transplant. okay. wow. and i can tell you the loneliness of serious illness is something only you can know. now i know he's got the queen alongside him. he's got his son now flying across the atlantic. he's got the rest of the royal family. but inside your head you are very, very lonely . because only very, very lonely. because only you know the intimate conversations you've had with your only know you . only your doctors only know you. only your doctors only know you. only you know how you feel on a day to basis. and only you know to day basis. and only you know the fears your head about the fears in your head about what will become of you. >> well, mike, hope you're >> well, mike, i hope you're wrong the stress caused by wrong that the stress caused by family rifts this could have, uh, you know , uh, led along this uh, you know, uh, led along this in any medical evidence for that whatsoever. >> and my wife is the chief nursing practitioner at the royal marsden hospital . she did royal marsden hospital. she did her postgraduate in oncology . her postgraduate in oncology. and she said to me two and what she said to me two things. one is you can always tell people who are to tell the people who are going to fight survive, even fight through and survive, even identical some people fight through and survive, even identital some people fight through and survive, even ident it in some people fight through and survive, even ident it in them some people fight through and survive, even ident it in them to some people fight through and survive, even ident it in them to actually people have it in them to actually fight through and so on. but

there's in which there's no way in which something or something like bowel cancer or bladder could possibly be bladder cancer could possibly be psychosomatic by psychosomatic or caused by stress. no stress. yes, there's no evidence. ever to that. evidence. what so ever to that. >> not, but doctors >> well, it's not, but doctors talk all the time. talk about it all the time. i mean, it doesn't necessarily make it right. >> it doesn't necessarily make it right. but doesn't it it right. but it doesn't it doesn't out altogether. doesn't wipe it out altogether. right? | doesn't wipe it out altogether. right? i mean, the more you worry in life, you right? i mean, the more you wo inherit in life, you right? i mean, the more you wo inherit medical in life, you right? i mean, the more you wo inherit medical conditions] do inherit medical conditions without shadow a doubt. >> like, for instance, heart, who's to say that you who's to say that can't, you know, affect in other areas know, affect you in other areas of body with other of your body with other diseases? >> well, no doubt he has had a lot of stress and certainly true. >> but there is now this great hope, this great hope that perhaps gone perhaps this rift that has gone on for emily, as you say. so many beginning to many years could be beginning to turn that healing might many years could be beginning to turn begin. that healing might many years could be beginning to turn begin. stephenaling might many years could be beginning to turn begin. stephen poundiight many years could be beginning to turn begin. stephen pound ,jhl many years could be beginning to turn begin. stephen pound , do you now begin. stephen pound, do you think that this is perhaps a path to redemption for harry? >> everybody that will >> everybody hopes that it will be everybody hopes that his majesty will this. majesty will survive this. >> everybody prays >> everybody hopes and prays that his majesty will come through united through this with a united family . however, meghan markle family. however, meghan markle is not there. she's still in montecito . i mean, ijust is not there. she's still in montecito . i mean, i just it montecito. i mean, ijust it weep for them . if his majesty

weep for them. if his majesty comes up out of anaesthetic and there is meghan markle there, you know, tape recording him or just trying to do another interview and say, can i have a quick word, know, so i hope quick word, you know, so i hope it does because need it does because you need a family of this. >> but there's two issues there. >> but there's two issues there. >> one that mike quite >> the one that mike quite rightly identifies. the other thing, of course, prince andrew as of state. the as a counsellor of state. if the second the worst could come as a counsellor of state. if the seconc happen rst could come as a counsellor of state. if the seconc happen would could come as a counsellor of state. if the seconc happen would coulyou me as a counsellor of state. if the seconchappen would coulyou had would happen would be if you had to have a regency, the second best, if like, would if best, if you like, would be if you to have counsellors you had to have the counsellors of state actually conducting the day business. now, i day to day business. now, i appreciate obviously, camilla day to day business. now, i app|youte obviously, camilla day to day business. now, i app|you know,iously, camilla day to day business. now, i app|you know, prince camilla day to day business. now, i app|you know, prince ca|wales and you know, prince of wales are in line. but then are the next in line. but then you've prince andrew. you've got prince andrew. >> andrew still one of >> is prince andrew still one of the is still one of the the members is still one of the because there was a big because i know there was a big controversy about that at the time of the coronation >> is princess eugenie. time of the coronation >> there's'incess eugenie. time of the coronation >> there's fine ;s eugenie. time of the coronation >> there's fine because e. time of the coronation >> there's fine because it's literally the direct literally just about the direct family than any family links rather than any sort special choosing. sort of special choosing. >> i mean, and they >> plus, well, i mean, and they get appointed obviously get appointed and obviously there's thing otherwise. there's an age thing otherwise. >> stephen, >> prince george, stephen, are you grandfather? you a grandfather? >> yeah, i am just yes, you are. just is that just how important is that relationship between a

grandfather grandchild? >> an absolutely, totally, utterly . utterly essential, important. >> it also reshapes your whole relationship with your children. you know, sons , a little boy, you know, my sons, a little boy, arlo, just before christmas. >> and my daughter's little girl, lottie, born july girl, lottie, was born on july the and the difference my >> and the difference in my relationship between them is extraordinary. it would relationship between them is extheartbreaking it would relationship between them is extheartbreaking if it would relationship between them is extheartbreaking if i it would relationship between them is extheartbreaking if i couldn'td be heartbreaking if i couldn't be heartbreaking if i couldn't be with that there was be with them or that there was an animosity there. >> and, you know, that's why i'm not just the same age prince not just the same age as prince charles, a member charles, but i'm also a member of same human race. sorry, of the same human race. sorry, sorry, charles. sorry, king charles. >> i don't think that you >> yeah, i don't think that you can ever repair the relationship between and and between harry and william, and i saw angela levin on this very station this morning, and she was so specific about the role of meghan markle. >> meghan markle doesn't like the united kingdom, and she doesn't like the royal family. the united kingdom, and she doesn't she the royal family. the united kingdom, and she doesn't she made >yal family. the united kingdom, and she doesn't she made itil family. the united kingdom, and she doesn't she made it verynily. the united kingdom, and she doesn't she made it very clear >> and she made it very clear that, in her opinion , she that, in her opinion, she completely harry's life. >> so anything harry wants to do in terms of reproachment with the king, reproachment with prince , according to prince william, according to angela. i've known her for angela. and i've known her for 30 years. perhaps a good sign that he's now over here. >> but but, stephen, mike,

>> but but but, stephen, mike, we're to get back to you we're going to get back to you a bit later in the show for now, we're going to be coming up to speaking to university of speaking to the university of bristol who won this bristol academic who won this landmark he was landmark decision that he was discriminated of landmark decision that he was dis

>> you're listening to gb news radio . now radio. now a university academic who was sacked after criticising israel has successfully claimed that he was discriminated for against his anti—zionist views. >> yes, professor david miller drew controversy during a lecture at bristol university in 2019 when he said the zionist movement was one of five pillars driving islamophobia in the uk. professor miller has successfully claimed he'd been unfairly dismissed on the grounds of religion or belief. and joining us now is professor david miller himself . and thank david miller himself. and thank you so much for making the time for us this afternoon. now, in a previous hour of this programme, we spoke to gideon falter, the

chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism , and he against anti—semitism, and he said that your views are extremist and that being anti zionist is denying the right to self—determination for the jewish people. how do you respond ? respond? >> well, the court has determined that that's not the case, that actually the anti—zionist views are a standard anti—racist views. they're worthy of respect in a democratic society. and if you discriminate against anyone who has anti—zionist views as a result of those views that you will be committing an offence and it will be illegal for you to do that and they will get compensation. it's a very clear message organisations like message to organisations like gideon's they lost gideon's that they have lost the argument and that they were set up. in fact, to police the boundanes up. in fact, to police the boundaries of debate on israel and palestine and not, of course, to deal with the question of racism against the jews, which in this country is pretty minimal. >> professor, did the >> professor, did not the tribunal also find that some of your statements were irresponsible and ill considered, and also isn't it the case that the threshold as

to what constitutes a philosophical belief is quite low and extends to veganism ? low and extends to veganism? >> well, you say it's low . >> well, you say it's low. that's a matter for debate. of course, the question is the threshold is are views which are worthy of respect , akin to worthy of respect, akin to nazism. and if they're akin to nazism, they're not worthy of respect. so it's quite clear that my views are not akin to nazis and they're not racist. they're anti racist, and therefore they are worthy of respect in a democratic society. the court did some, some the court did make some, some statements the things that statements about the things that i had said, and in i had said, uh, and in particular, was partly to particular, this was partly to do university's view do with the university's view that i should have gone through internal procedures in order to, uh , deal with the issues that i uh, deal with the issues that i had. i did go through the internal procedures, and they were blocked. to me, it was it was made impossible for me to do that. had to go that. and that's why i had to go public. that. and that's why i had to go pubuc.so that. and that's why i had to go public. so although the court has said that's correct. has said that. that's correct. i would but i would would reject that. but i would want you to instead focus on the headlines, which is i was headlines, which is that i was found have been wrongfully found to have been wrongfully dismissed. found

dismissed. and also i was found to been as to have been dismissed as a matter direct discrimination matter of direct discrimination because my anti—zionist, because of my anti—zionist, which contrary what which is contrary to what the university had themselves said. david. >> not, though, that >> is it not, though, that you've quite a number of you've made quite a number of quite comments and the quite nasty comments and the union the union of jewish students at the university have clearly been very them. i saw very upset by them. i saw a tweet you tweeted that the facts are jews are not discriminated against. they are overrepresented in europe, north america and latin america. in positions of cultural, economic and power. they and political power. they are therefore position to therefore in a position to discriminate against actually marginalised groups. are you not indulging in very widely considered anti—semitic tropes there? i could go on. there are many examples of this. >> no, no, of course not. of course not. no, the position is that, uh, jews are the most advantaged economic minority in the country, and that the data for that comes from the government and from the economic, equalities government and from the ecorhuman equalities government and from the ecorhuman rights equalities government and from the ecorhuman rights commission. and and human rights commission. and that is the key question is that that is the key question is that that is the key question is that zionists say that the that the zionists say that the jews are facing, uh, unparalleled amounts of racism and discrimination. and the truth is that they're not.

>> well, hang on, let's look at the hate crime stats. hate crimes against jewish people in this country have skyrocketed . this country have skyrocketed. >> so it's the single example that you can point to, which shows that, uh, that jews face any kind of problems in the society. our hate crime stats where on average per person, jews are more likely to face hate crime than any other minority. the reason for minority. and the reason for that the statistics are that is that the statistics are compiled in such a way that pro—palestine like pro—palestine activities like for example, uh, flying a palestinian flag or using the phrase from the river to the sea are counted as being hate crimes i >> -- >> now em- knu- h is, that's quite an >> now that is, that's quite an accusation , david. accusation, david. >> it's quite accusation. >> it's quite an accusation. yes. it's also true. yes. and it's also true. >> understand, david, why >> do you understand, david, why some recoil when some people might recoil when you that jewish you say that jewish people aren't discriminated against because so because jewish people are so rich. you not see how that rich. do you not see how that sort of following that age sort of is following that age old anti—semitic trope . that you old anti—semitic trope. that you can't discriminate against a group because they're perceived to be in a position of authority 7 to be in a position of authority ? in itself could be ? surely that in itself could be seen as anti—semitic? well it is well, if i say that jewish

people were rich, that would have been. >> i didn't say that. uh, it's a question of averages and statistics, which are perfectly, uh, available to everyone who cares look, this is not cares to look, this is not a question of anti—jewish tropes. this is a question of saying, question of anti—jewish tropes. this ihowluestion of saying, question of anti—jewish tropes. this ihow isestion of saying, question of anti—jewish tropes. this ihow is ition of saying, question of anti—jewish tropes. this ihow is it that,: saying, question of anti—jewish tropes. this ihow is it that, um,ing, question of anti—jewish tropes. this ihow is it that, um, the well, how is it that, um, the zionist views are able to maintain such a, such a stranglehold on, for example, the media, the top 100 uh, journals in this country are around 12 or 13 of them are jewish. all of them are zionists. and in the case of europe organisation, for example, one of your directors was a former director of the campaign against anti—semitism , campaign against anti—semitism, the organisation you've just had on denouncing me. so that is an indication of the way in which the jews are 0.5% of the population in the uk , and yet population in the uk, and yet 13% of the top journalists. >> well, that sounds like a fantastic success story to me. one of the things you said, which really concerned me, was that, uh, jewish students on british campuses are being used as political pawns by a violent , as political pawns by a violent, racist foreign regime engaged in

ethnic cleansing. of course, referring to the state of israel to suggest jewish students are being used as political pawns. to me, that seems an outrageously extremist extreme thing to say. >> well , it thing to say. >> well, it might do to you. the court didn't think so. i mean, the question that the statement i made was that there's a real question about whether some jewish students, i.e. the leadership of the zionist student organisation, are being used i was used as political pawns. i was being polite, actually . of being polite, actually. of course, seen since then course, we've seen since then that people were that the people who were attacking me involved attacking me were involved directly with coordinating directly with and coordinating with state of israel, and with the state of israel, and what was doing being with the state of israel, and what and doing being with the state of israel, and what and giving being with the state of israel, and what and giving themeing with the state of israel, and what and giving them the] polite and giving them the benefit the doubt, thinking benefit of the doubt, thinking that not they might that they might not they might possibly know they were possibly not know what they were doing. of course, in doing. but as of course, in retrospect, perfectly doing. but as of course, in retro what perfectly doing. but as of course, in retro what they perfectly doing. but as of course, in retro what they were perfectly doing. but as of course, in retro what they were doing, :tly doing. but as of course, in retro what they were doing, as' well what they were doing, as has by their record has been shown by their record of activities in going to israel. so i mean, you know, these not the extremist these are not the extremist ideas. are ideas which are ideas. these are ideas which are taken court and taken by the court and determined to be acceptable in a democratic society. and that's the court. the judgement of the court. >> david, one of your other hats is, of course, working for press

tv. iranian state owned tv. the iranian state owned media company. of course, iran has an extremist regime , um, has an extremist regime, um, that's fairly widely considered. and indeed the state of iran pursues and funds deeply anti semitic groups. are you comfortable working for press tv ? >> well, if you look at the record of the deeply anti—semitic groups that they are said to fund and uh, if you google this, you'll find that the organisations that are said to fund, which deeply to fund, which are deeply anti—semitic, is the organisation the television organisation, the television program for which i work. this is a joke of an assertion done by the centre for countering digital hate, a zionist organisation, and the, the, the adl and the us , an organisation adl and the us, an organisation which is also a zionist organisation and the research that it's based on is frankly ridiculous . ridiculous. >> um, thank you very much for your time, professor david miller. there we must

i >> -- >> good afternoon, britain, it's 2:00 on tuesday, the 6th of february. >> prince harry comes home. the duke of sussex has arrived in the uk to see his father after the uk to see his father after the king was diagnosed with a form of cancer. could we see harry brought back into the fold ? >> 7 >> manhunt day six ? >> manhunt day six abdul ezedi still eludes police capture. almost a week after his vicious chemical attack in south london, the last time the have—a—go christian was seen was january the 31st, but is he even still alive ? alive? >> and popcorn at the ready? former prime minister liz truss , former prime minister liz truss, along with other senior conservatives , has launched conservatives, has launched today a new campaign group for lower taxes, less regulation and end to what they call net zero zealotry and robust control of our borders. but is anyone listening ? listening? >> now, for those of us, those

of you who are with us, at the end of the last hour, we had a pretty ballsy interview, a pretty ballsy interview, a pretty back and forth, pretty strident ping pong ding dong with david miller, the universe professor, the former university professor, the former university professor who was sacked after he says he made anti—gay zionist comments . i thought it was comments. i thought it was a really interesting interview, actually. >> yeah. very interesting. it's always good to put people's words back to them and see how they justify them, particularly here is assumption that jews are not discriminated against because they are in, uh, good positions in society. it's i mean , one would say that that's mean, one would say that that's being successful is a good thing in this society . being successful is a good thing in this society. i mean, that is the most anti—semitic trope in my view. yeah, no, it's an age old anti—semitic trope, isn't it, that jewish people are rich and powerful and therefore they can't be discriminated against? >> it's a tricky one because >> but it's a tricky one because we debate talking we did debate about talking about show. but this about this on the show. but this is a free speech station. we

should hear all views . and i should hear all views. and i think it's a really interesting question about whether views that are, um, perhaps deeply, deeply upsetting, upsetting should be being aired at all. but i think on balance it was right to have that conversation. and i think the audience, i think you at home will be able to make up your mind for yourself about that conversation. yes. >> this case may a >> in this case may set a precedent for the future , and precedent for the future, and it's important as we it's very important as well. we spoke campaigner against spoke to a campaigner against anti—semitism, um, the start anti—semitism, um, at the start of the show . and it's certainly of the show. and it's certainly the case that many jewish students haven't felt safe on campuses in recent times. and it's worth highlighting that in my view. um, let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com, but let's get your headlines . but let's get your headlines. >> tom. emily, thank you very much and good afternoon from the newsroom. it's 2:00. as we've been hearing, newsroom. it's 2:00. as we've been hearing , prince harry newsroom. it's 2:00. as we've been hearing, prince harry has now touched down in london to

see the king as he undergoes treatment for an unspecified form of cancer. it's unclear whether the prince will meet with brother , the prince of with his brother, the prince of wales, who's expected to carry out some of his father's royal dufiesin out some of his father's royal duties in weeks. the king duties in coming weeks. the king reported . he told his sons about reported. he told his sons about his diagnosis before buckingham palace the announcement. palace made the announcement. palace made the announcement. palace officials hope the news encourages others who are affected by the illness . affected by the illness. meanwhile, members of the public have shared their best wishes for the king, with gb news fact that it was already in hospital and he'd had the obviously the enlarged prostate and i understand from reading the news this morning, it's not the prostate that it's worried about. >> it's another form of cancer. um, but the fact that it's been caught mega early, you know, hopefully should be fine. fingers crossed. hopefully should be fine. finglzrs crossed. hopefully should be fine. fingl just rossed. hopefully should be fine. fingl just think. hopefully should be fine. fingl just think it's, uh, it's sad. >> it's the same as any family. if someone gets that sort of news, obviously it's going to be devastating . uh, but i suppose devastating. uh, but i suppose he's handling it pretty well at first. >> so sad really, with the loss of the queen not too long ago .

of the queen not too long ago. now he's having cancer. yeah, yeah, it's a sad time . yeah, it's a sad time. >> police say it's highly likely there are people who know the whereabouts of the man suspected in a recent chemical attack, who've chosen , they say, not to who've chosen, they say, not to come forward . abdul ezedi is come forward. abdul ezedi is still wanted in connection with the attack that left a woman critically injured in south london. she's now in danger of losing her eyesight in her right eye. a £20,000 reward is in place for anyone with information that could lead to azad's and police are azad's arrest and police are warning anyone found to have assisted the suspect will face arrest. also izadi was last seen leaving tower hill tube station in east london just after 930 last wednesday evening . they're last wednesday evening. they're also urging anyone with information to come forward . liz information to come forward. liz truss has said that democracy has become unpopular. that's how she unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas as the popular conservative movement movement, or popcorn , movement movement, or popcorn, aims to take on what the former

prime minister called left wing extremists . the liberal extremists. the liberal democrats have accused some of those who were present at today's launch of economic vandalism. but mr truss told gb news earlier she thinks left wing ideas have gone too far. >> one of the problems we have is, though, we've got a conservative government but what we're seeing in our schools , in we're seeing in our schools, in our universities, in our corporate sector is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas. people of britain want us to deal with a real issues immigration too high, the government's too big, taxes are too high. but what we constantly hearis too high. but what we constantly hear is the left. so popcorn is about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging the left wing orthodoxy and making it positive to be a conservative. >> a 46 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of malicious communication following reports of an abusive and threatening phone call to a conservative mps office. mike

freer announced his decision to quit politics last week. he told gb news that that's because he fears for his safety . the fears for his safety. the justice minister has been the target of several death threats and an arson attack on his constituency office. around 8 million people will receive the last of three cost of living payments starting from today. the money will be paid by the department for work and pensions, paid directly into bank accounts and those who are eligible don't need to apply. it's the third of up to three payments totalling up to £900 for some households on means tested benefits. it's being given to alleviate the cost of living pressures . labour has living pressures. labour has accused downing street of leaving the financial crisis in local councils for the next government to solve. clive betts, who's the labour chairman of the levelling up committee, is warning that many people will see a rise in rates as councils look to plug their funding gaps. that's after more than a decade of warnings over financial pressures , which have vital pressures, which have put vital services in councils under

severe strain . and finally , some severe strain. and finally, some political news to sink your teeth into a set of dentures. once worn by winston churchill, are now up for auction. the false teeth were worn by the former prime minister during many of his most famous speeches , and they were designed to protect his natural lisp. they go under the hammer in cheltenham today with an expected price of around £8,000. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:07 and prince harry has arrived in the uk to visit his father after yesterday evening's shock announcement that the king has a form of cancer. >> yes, whilst the duke of sussex has travelled without his wife children, is hoped sussex has travelled without his wif

reconciliation in between harry and his family. >> prime >> meanwhile, the prime minister, sunak, minister, rishi sunak, and labour keir starmer labour leader sir keir starmer were very quick to send the king their best wishes. yes the prime minister of canada as well, and australia, to where the king is head state, are amongst head of state, are amongst countless world leaders to wish his majesty recovery . his majesty a speedy recovery. we live now to buckingham we can go live now to buckingham palace to gb news palace and speak to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker. we now know that walker. cameron we now know that prince harry is in london. what do you think he will be saying to the king when they meet ? yes tom. >> well, it appears prince harry hasindeed >> well, it appears prince harry has indeed landed in london at the moment it looks like he has not arrived at clarence house, which is where his majesty the king is staying. he could well be heading to windsor first, but to perhaps freshen up before he goes to meet his majesty the king. we don't have any official confirmation. indeed that he is going straight to see his father. but of course, when he doesis father. but of course, when he does is going to be the first meeting in a number of months.

the he saw his majesty the last time he saw his majesty would during would have been during the coronation in may 2023, but they didn't actually speak on that day. prince harry, as soon as the ceremony westminster the ceremony at westminster abbey finished, flew abbey had finished, flew straight to los angeles to straight back to los angeles to spend time with prince archie, his son on his birthday. of course , they have not been on course, they have not been on the best of terms over the last few years because we've had the bombshell memoir spare. we've also had the netflix series , but also had the netflix series, but there certainly is. it appears , there certainly is. it appears, as a bond between harry and his father. we know that they spoke on the phone for, um, to mark king charles's 75th birthday back in november. it was confirmed to me via a source close to the prince harry. but when it comes to meeting in person, what's going to say we don't know exactly, of course, but when it comes to prince william and prince harry's relationship, that is a different matter. their relationship is not is on even worse terms, as we understand it

from his father. there's no plans yet or we haven't been told from either. kensington palace or sources close to the sussexes . if there are plans for sussexes. if there are plans for prince william and prince harry to meet during this time . but of to meet during this time. but of course, happening course, this is all happening because king charles has been diagnosed with what buckingham palace form of palace describes as a form of cancer , not prostate cancer. it cancer, not prostate cancer. it was discovered during the treatment he had for an enlarged prostate for that benign condition in a couple of weeks ago, but clearly it's a serious condition because prince harry has decided to fly across the atlantic to see his father. beanng atlantic to see his father. bearing in mind he's expected to be in whistler in canada, um, next week to launch his 2025 invictus campaign . so it really invictus campaign. so it really is an unexpected visit from prince harry. but highlights of seriousness of the situation. >> it'll be interesting to see how long he stays because usually in recent years anyway, usually in recent years anyway, usually when he he flies into into london, he doesn't stay for very long. perhaps he'll stay for a little longer this time.

or is that wishful thinking? we'll . have to wait and see. we'll. have to wait and see. >> buckingham palace has always stressed that king charles very much loves his son, and i suppose it depends on how prince charles, king is. charles, sorry king charles is. recovery yesterday we know recovery goes yesterday we know king charles had his first bout of treatment for this, for this cancen of treatment for this, for this cancer. being treated as an cancer. he's being treated as an outpatient in hospital. but i think it's quite difficult to speculate as to exactly how long prince harry is going to be staying in the uk. you could say how long is a piece of string? we know he scheduled to be we do know he is scheduled to be in as i said next week in canada. as i said next week for invictus games launch, for the invictus games launch, whether postponed or whether he is postponed that or he still to go , that has whether he is postponed that or he :been to go , that has whether he is postponed that or he :been confirmed , that has whether he is postponed that or he :been confirmed by1at has whether he is postponed that or he :been confirmed by archewell, not been confirmed by archewell, his communications team . so his communications team. so we'll have to wait and see. but of course we know that king charles has a long recovery ahead from this treatment he's not to be seeing for not going to be seeing in for pubuc not going to be seeing in for public some time. buckingham palace confirmed how palace has not confirmed how long be out of but long he'll be out of action, but he is very much continuing he is still very much continuing with work, the scenes and with work, behind the scenes and perhaps we'll get family perhaps we'll get some family visitors the way .

visitors along the way. >> interesting >> well, really interesting stuff cameron walker, we stuff there, cameron walker, we know back on our know you'll be back on our screens as soon as we know more. more about prince harry and his travels through london. but for now, thanks for joining us. >> yes, let's get more now with the former royal correspondent at charles rea. charles at the sun, charles rea. charles of course, we all heard the bad news yesterday evening about king charles and his diagnosis with a form of cancer. we now know that prince harry, his son, has arrived in london and is on his way to clarence house to see the king. how do you expect that interaction to go? it's been a tncky interaction to go? it's been a tricky few years. i well, i expect that the fact that harry has jumped on a plane is fantastic. >> to be perfectly honest, given what's going on in the last few years. >> and i think it's only right that harry came across and i'm sure that it would be a nice little tonic, uh, for the king. uh, however, i can't help feeling that if meghan had come along as well with the grandchildren. >> and remember, the king has not met lilibet yet.

>> that would have been an even if it had been a double tonic. >> but she's decided to stay with the kids and there may be perfect reasons why she hasn't come across. >> but, um, i think the meeting with the king will go very, very well. >> do you really think that it would be a tonic for meghan to come across? perhaps they've had these sort of discussions in california and decided it might not be the most comforting, comforting thing at this point in time for the king to see meghan . meghan. >> well, i think it's more important that he would see his grandchildren and you were discussing grandchildren earlier on with stephen mike parry , on with stephen and mike parry, uh, stephen pan and make party and, you know, grandchildren do bnng and, you know, grandchildren do bring an awful lot of, uh, you know, your life, know, love into your life, especially moments where you especially at moments where you are in a sort of desperate situation. >> if you're being just diagnosed with cancer, uh, what a better way to do it than to sort of have your grandchildren there that you have? certainly one of the ones, one of them you haven't actually met. um, i, i'm

one of the people who believes that meghan will never set foot into this country again, but it would have still have been nice for to come along with harry for her to come along with harry and uh, say to the king, you and to, uh, say to the king, you know, i hope you really get better soon. here are the kids. >> yeah. so i wonder why harry didn't bring, uh, lilibet with him . if the king hasn't even met him. if the king hasn't even met her, you say no , he hasn't. her, you say no, he hasn't. >> and it would have been a perfect time, you know, to bring it across. but there may be reasons why they the children can't travel. >> yeah, there may be reasons i don't. >> yeah, there may be reasons i dori:. know, i just think >> i don't know, i just think that, you know, what's more important? the king fighting cancer or the kids going to school. i just think it might have been a better use of their time to come across and wish the king all the best, even though they're so young now. charles from your, uh, years on, the royal beat at the sun, what do you understand about how much the minister will have the prime minister will have been about the king's condition? >> about what point along the process the king discovered this, whether this is an early

diagnosis or not, because there was some confusion. this morning when the king, when the prime minister revealed perhaps some more about the king's condition than buckingham palace had revealed last night . revealed last night. >> oh good question. >> oh good question. >> yes, it may well be that the prime minister knows a little bit more than the rest of us. i mean, he may know just a bit, a bit less than the rest of the family know, but he may know more than we know as well. and it was interesting the way he came out morning at and, came out this morning at and, you said it it was you know, said it was it was it's caught cancer has been it's caught the cancer has been caught early and there's every good bit of for his, um, good bit of news for his, um, future so that's that future diagnosis. so that's that looks to me as a positive sign. let's, let's, let's not forget cancen let's, let's, let's not forget cancer. it doesn't matter what type of cancer you got. it's a very serious condition. and any doctor you've had doctors on on, on screen and other doctors have said the earlier you catch a cancer , the more chance you have cancer, the more chance you have of surviving it. and it being cured. um, so , you know, let's cured. um, so, you know, let's hope that the king is in that

bracket. >> um, yes . >> um, yes. >> um, yes. >> and i'm sure he's absolutely itching to get back to all of his public engagements. i say again, 569. he had last year, 94 of which were abroad , which i of which were abroad, which i found astounding. thank you very much indeed. charles rea former royal correspondent at the sun . royal correspondent at the sun. always great to speak to you. well all social housing tenants in pembroke house in salisbury have been living in fear after their housing association demanded a large hike in weekly repayments. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> so the block, comprising of 38 flats, is home to many elderly people living on housing benefits. >> liam halligan are economics and business editor has this special report with on the money reporter . james monroe will soon reporter. james monroe will soon be 80. >> he lives alone, is diabetic and at night needs a breathing machine to survive ill for much of his working life , james is of his working life, james is reliant on subsidised social housing. >> his flat , owned by stonewater

>> his flat, owned by stonewater , a not for profit housing association in stonewall to last year , wrote to dozens of tenants year, wrote to dozens of tenants in james's block demanding a 63% rise in accommodation costs . rise in accommodation costs. this that is what i wrote when it all happened and we didn't believe it. >> he was there were people walking around looking lost. >> there was no explanation. there was no warning . 1 or there was no warning. 1 or 2 hinted that they were going to be increases, but 63% it's unaffordable for a typical tenantin unaffordable for a typical tenant in james's building. >> pembroke house faced a weekly rent rise . from 166 to £271.20. rent rise. from 166 to £271.20. that's 63% more. an extra £5,260 a year, while accommodation costs were around 11% higher. stonewater justified the bulk of the increase by referring to higher energy and electricity pnces higher energy and electricity prices for which tenants crucially can't claim extra housing benefit . housing benefit. >> it never felt lonely there. >> it never felt lonely there. >> long time pembroke house

resident jenny fiddler was in her words, so petrified by this huge rent rise she moved to more cramped housing elsewhere , away cramped housing elsewhere, away from her friends , jenny was from her friends, jenny was forced to give away most of her furniture as her new accommodation away from numerous friends is much smaller. this 78 year old widow says. news of sam waters sudden rent hike made her cry and cry devastated. >> i tell you now, and not many people know this had a complete mental breakdown down, so don't go any further. >> her her there. >> her her there. >> i'm getting over it now. >> i'm getting over it now. >> i'm getting over it now. >> i'm surviving . but it's hard, >> i'm surviving. but it's hard, hard at my age. >> officials at wiltshire council are angry a house, stonewater is treating its tenants in salisbury, one of the larger housing associations . larger housing associations. >> stonewater, manages 36,000 homes across britain , turning homes across britain, turning over hundreds of millions of pounds. the leader of wiltshire council says he was absolutely furious at stone water's 63%

rent increase at pembroke house. >> i think they're not behaving like a social landlord. >> they're a charitable organisation. >> they exist to provide a safety net to have a social purpose and instead they , they purpose and instead they, they and many other large housing associations are increasingly behaving like developers. they're not focusing on the people they're there to look after. >> and the top people pay themselves quite a lot of money as well. >> they certainly do. >> they certainly do. >> you're looking at at something pushing 300,000 for the chief executive. >> these organisations, not >> these organisations, the not for yes. >> water told us this. we >> stone water told us this. we understand customers concerns about the increases in rents and service charges last year and have a wide range of supports in place for anyone struggling . place for anyone struggling. we've been working with customers across all schemes customers across all our schemes to energy use , which to reduce energy use, which makes the bulk of service makes up the bulk of service charges, and some charges, says james. and some other pembroke house tenants are appealing stone water's price rises. they face an uncertain future. worry about the roof above their heads . liam halligan above their heads. liam halligan gb news in salisbury , 63% cost

gb news in salisbury, 63% cost hike oof i hike oofi >> although quite a few people in private rented accommodation have experienced similar in the last few years as well . severe last few years as well. severe housing shortage. but you can read more on stone water housing association's full statement regarding this. that's now on gb news online. yes, gbnews.com, of course, is the website. >> but coming up, former prime minister liz truss launches the popular conservatism movement popcorn. but we're asking is she the right person to front that particular movement. this is good afternoon britain on

listening to gb news radio. >> good afternoon britain. 2:23, and former prime minister liz truss has today been launching her popular conservatism movement , her popular conservatism movement, aimed at restoring democratic accountability and promoting free market

conservatism. >> yes, it comes as new polling reveals liz truss is by far the most unpopular politician with the british public, with one political researcher adding that it is ironic that popular conservative ism couldn't find a more unpopular spokesperson , more unpopular spokesperson, even if they actively tried died. well, is he right? is he right? or do you actually take a different view when it comes to liz truss? was she, uh, the one that got away too soon? let's get more on this now with gb news political editor christopher hope. christopher big day liz truss and the big day for liz truss and the crew. you are now with tobias crew. uh you are now with tobias ellwood. i hear. >> that's right. yes. so just before we get to tobias ellwood, let's remind our viewers what liz truss had to say earlier at the launch of this popular conservatism event . conservatism event. >> the problems we have , as >> the problems we have, as though we've got a conservative government and what we're seeing in our schools , in our in our schools, in our universities, in our corporate sector, is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas . and

wokery of left wing ideas. and what popcorn about is about is about combating that because the people of britain want us to deal with a real issues, immigration is too high. the government's too big, taxes are too high. but what we constantly hearis too high. but what we constantly hear is the left. so popcorn is about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging the left wing orthodoxy . we . orthodoxy. we. >> that's liz truss there talking to me earlier before she spoke at the popcorn event . you spoke at the popcorn event. you might find it interesting how little you can do in government, by the way, because there she's talking a former prime talking as a former prime minister and how impotent she felt she would see felt against what she would see as left biased as this left biased in establishment. but with now establishment. but with me now is tobias ellwood from the centre party. tobias centre of the party. tobias ellwood, you weren't at this popcorn event why, why is why popcorn event at why, why is why is your party doing this? and isn't it confusing to voters to see another group being formed? absolutely >> it's been a difficult couple of years. >> you know it, i know it, but

we're starting to navigate into a far better . place thanks to a far better. place thanks to rishi sunaks leadership, fiscal discipline has returned calmer waters . waters. >> we're looking ahead. >> we're looking ahead. >> statecraft has returned as well to whitehall as we get involved with what's going on in the middle east and ukraine and so forth. and yet here we have yet formation of a yet another formation of a group, people's front of group, another people's front of judea. >> e“- judea. >> very confusing to the >> this is very confusing to the electorate. at time when they electorate. at a time when they want to see discipline, they want to see discipline, they want want to want to see unity. they want to see sense of purpose. see a sense of purpose. >> at the moment they're not >> and at the moment they're not sure stands for. we sure what labour stands for. we don't the opportunity don't give them the opportunity because another subtribe is because yet another subtribe is formed. there's another formed. but there's another concern i have which concern here that i have which is at bigger picture, is look at the bigger picture, authoritarian is on rise authoritarian ism is on the rise across world. britain is across the world. britain is looked an exemplar of what looked at as an exemplar of what democracy should about. democracy should be all about. >> we should be >> what transpired we should be all yet we have a group or >> yet here we have a group or a series of groups wanting to introduce populist . introduce populist. >> saw what that happened >> um, we saw what that happened in the united states. it can't happen doesn't happen here, but doesn't popcorn's exist for the right of

the party because the right wingers have been purged from the top of the government. suella braverman rest, suella braverman and the rest, these right tories, they these right wing tories, they look at their government, they don't recognise many don't really recognise many people persuasion in people from their persuasion in it. formed pop it. so they've formed the pop cons that for them. cons to do that for them. >> yeah. and the problem >> yeah. and this is the problem of heading is of where we're heading is because can tell you the because i can tell you the message your hate and message build on your hate and that rile you up. that can rile you up. >> get your anger going, and then for me. but is then you'll vote for me. but is it going take the country it going to take the country anywhere? no it won't. we've seen in parts the seen that in other parts of the world. don't that to world. we don't want that to happen here. and the reason why it happen here. and the reason why h happenis happen here. and the reason why it happen is simply it might happen is simply because we select our because of how we select our leader. it's given to the power of the base. >> the membership >> that's the membership chooses that. advocating that that >> and i'm advocating that that must as to must change that decision as to who the party must be who leads the party must be returned to parliamentarians. if you that, you wouldn't have you did that, you wouldn't have these groups trying to schmooze our these populist our base with these populist policies, which i'm afraid would not survive contact with reality i >> -- >> that's 5mm >> that's what needs to change. i'm not sure your idea would survive contact with reality. you're take away the you're going to take away the grassroots change. will grassroots change. it will change whether it happens now or

indeed later. because if it doesn't happen, what will? we'll see. is our party fragment between the light blue and the dark blue. worst case scenario, we'll see nigel farage ending up as leader of our party, because our like that. now our base will like that. now look how successful leaders our base will like that. now lo perhaps they choose 4 or 5 candidates, but we choose the final 1 or 2. that's the way that needs to go through. that it needs to go through. flip the system it is now

flip the system as it is now around. mps have the final around. so mps have the final decision. are you saying this because someone like you with a center—left view politics, center—left view on politics, would never because the would never win? because the base the right of you? is base is to the right of you? is that why you're saying this to me? about whether me? this is about whether or not the is going me? this is about whether or not th

another grouping pursue a different agenda? let's get behind the prime minister. that's only chance have that's the only chance we have of election . well, of winning this election. well, there you have it, tobias ellwood on a tuesday ellwood fired up on a tuesday afternoon as a man who was not ianed afternoon as a man who was not invited to the popcorn launch today, i am not sure he would have. >> he would have received the invitation. well anyway, but thank you very much. christopher strong tobias strong stuff from tobias ellwood. >> fascinating , >> really fascinating, impassioned, fired as impassioned, fired up as christopher hope said, what do you should the tory uh, you think should the tory uh, next tory leader only be decided by mps , uh, rather than party by mps, uh, rather than party members? gb views at gb news.com liz truss is very much a dividing the inbox, isn't she? >> judy says i've been in laughter at the irony of liz truss leading the popcorn , given truss leading the popcorn, given how unpopular she but others how unpopular she is. but others are a wonderful are saying it was a wonderful speech. she's the type of conservative we need more of, and liz truss and i'd vote for liz truss tomorrow, says michael in kingston hull . so there you kingston upon hull. so there you go. >> well, some exciting news for you. now we're going to be back to palace as prince to buckingham palace as prince harry in the uk to be the

harry lands in the uk to be the first to be with his father. but before all of that, we'll get to the headlines . the headlines. >> good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it'sjust >> good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 2:30 at the top. story this afternoon. and the latest developments. in fact the royal helicopter has now been spotted landing at buckingham palace. that's as the king prepares his treatment for an unspecified form of cancer. earlier, harry, prince harry flew into london from los angeles after an overnight flight. it's unclear whether he'll meet with his brother, the prince of wales, who's expected to carry out some of his father's royal duties in coming weeks. the king reportedly told his sons about his diagnosis before buckingham palace made the announcement last night. palace officials are hoping that the news will encourage others who are also affected by the illness , to a £20,000 reward is illness, to a £20,000 reward is being offered for anyone with information on the whereabouts of a man being hunted in

connection with a chemical attack in south london, abdul ezedi is suspected of attacking a woman with a corrosive substance that's left her with potentially life changing injuries. police are warning that anyone found to have assisted the suspect will face arrest. azadi was last seen leaving tower hill tube station in east london just after 930 on wednesday evening . last week, wednesday evening. last week, liz truss has said the democracy has become unpopular, as she unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas. the popular conservatives movement, or popcorn, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the liberal democrats, though, have accused some of those who were present today at that launch of economic vandalism . mistrust economic vandalism. mistrust told gb news she thinks left wing ideas have gone too far and labour has accused downing street of leaving the financial crisis in local councils for the next government to solve . clive next government to solve. clive betts, who's the labour chairman

of the levelling up committee, is warning that many people will see a rise in rates as councils look to plug funding gaps. that's after more than a decade of warnings over financial pressures in local councils, which have put their vital services under severe strain . services under severe strain. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com. forward slash alerts .

radio. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:36 and let's go live to buckingham palace now and speak to our royal correspondent, cameron walker. cameron, i hear there's been some activity at there's been some activity at the palace . the palace. >> yeah, there certainly is, tom. it's been pretty loud here

in central london in the last few minutes, because the king's helicopter has just landed in the garden of the buckingham palace. now, we don't know who was in that helicopter. if indeed anybody. it could well be, as has been reported by some journalists, the king is planning to leave london and return to sandringham following his outpatient hospital treatment yesterday. if we've been reporting all day now, the king has been diagnosed with a form of cancer and was receiving his treatment yesterday in central london. he spent the night at clarence house and we do not have confirmation yet if he is do not have confirmation yet if heisindeed do not have confirmation yet if he is indeed returning on that helicopter from london back to sandringham . if we do get those sandringham. if we do get those details confirmed and we will bnng details confirmed and we will bring them straight to you in other developments, a motorcade has been pictured at heathrow airport, which has been widely assumed to be carrying prince harry, duke of sussex . we know harry, duke of sussex. we know that he is returning from california to the united kingdom

to spend time with his father following that cancer diagnosis , following that cancer diagnosis, the king personally told his son prince harry and indeed prince william and his siblings before that public announcement, uh, came out . we know that queen came out. we know that queen camilla has also been by her husband's side, king charles. she's expected to continue with a full programme of engagement. but of course, having a cancer diagnosis is pretty serious and she is expected to play a very active role in supporting the king. um with his recovery from that disease, the king will be continuing with duties behind the scenes as we as we've been saying, going through those government red boxes. of government red boxes. and of course, meeting the prime minister weekly . minister weekly. >> he says, of course we will be back with you if we learn that the king is hopping on a helicopter or anyone else, for that matter, on a piece of popcorn there, i might have done because and this is this is relevant to the show. we're joined the former labour relevant to the show. we're join stephen the former labour relevant to the show. we're join stephen poundormer labour relevant to the show. we're joinstephen pound ander labour relevant to the show. we're joinstephen pound and broadcaster mp stephen pound and broadcaster mike parry , and we're going to

mike parry, and we're going to be popcorn . this at be discussing popcorn. this at the start of show was a lot the start of the show was a lot more full of popcorn. but why do i popcorn ? i have popcorn? >> liz, liz truss >> yes, because liz, liz truss gosh, liz truss is telling the conservatives how to be popular again. but the question is, is she the right person to lecture the party on how to be a good conservative, a popular conservative? well let's go to mike. i'm interested on your views on this. now a lot of people will say, liz truss, she messed it up a bit, but actually some of her ideas were pretty sound. some of her ideas were pretty sound . what's your view? sound. what's your view? >> yeah, i think some of their ideas were sound, but she didn't have the political nous or ability to translate sound ideas into sound action. and in fact , into sound action. and in fact, it smashed her own government up and smashed up a lot of the tory party and smashed up the ideals of some of the people who agreed with what she was saying , uh, with what she was saying, uh, which i think are irreversible. how could anybody now put any

trust in liz truss? i don't think she's got a very good presentation style anyway. >> she always looks stuttering to me. she doesn't speak well . to me. she doesn't speak well. >> she's not a great lecturer and i always feel like i'm talking to somebody who seems to be making it up on the hoof. you know, it's the ideas are coming out of her head, but i think she caused so much chaos that is indicative of the tory party. >> and she's created more chaos by launching another group. >> is there now five breakaway right wing? >> it is a bit much, actually . >> it is a bit much, actually. >> it is a bit much, actually. >> they keep up. that was half an hour ago . exactly. yeah, yeah. >> mike makes a good point though stephen doesn't he? because she did damage the conservative party's prospects at , wrongly or at the next election, wrongly or rightly, whatever and rightly, whatever your view. and i lot of people are i know that a lot of people are still supportive of liz truss and wish she were still prime minister. actually yeah, she did cause damage. and then cause a lot of damage. and then to, uh, build this campaign one group at a time where rishi sunak the polls sunak is struggling in the polls is it self—serving or do you think she genuinely believes that is type of

that this is the type of campaign that turn around campaign that can turn around the the conservative the fate of the conservative party future of britain, party and the future of britain, with like that, who with friends like that, who needs perfectly honestly i >> -- >> look, is it sour popcorn or is sweet because, is it sweet popcorn? because, i mean, salty , it's salty, a mean, it's salty, it's salty, a salty , a salty and battery of salty, a salty and battery of other sound. look, the reality is the conservatives weren't always loved. they didn't have to be loved, but they had to be perceived as being competent and capable. they had to believe in sound economics, and they had to believe actually consistency. believe in actually consistency. and when we had ellwood and when we had tobias ellwood absolute off one on gb news absolute off on one on gb news earlier on today, you know, talking about baldwin, disraeli, earlier on today, you know, talk know,out baldwin, disraeli, earlier on today, you know, talk know,out iknow, n, disraeli, earlier on today, you know, talk know,out iknow, whatraeli, earlier on today, you know, talk know,out iknow, what was, earlier on today, you know, talk know,out iknow, what was the you know, you know, what was the thing all had in common thing they all had in common thatcher consistency, thatcher belief, consistency, capability and competence. >> and that is why keir starmer will be pushing this. >> am competent, i may be >> i am competent, i may be dull, but god i'm competent. dull, but by god i'm competent. >> know if he's >> well, we don't know if he's competent he hasn't done competent because he hasn't done anything he hasn't worked anything yet. he hasn't worked with ireland. with him in northern ireland. >> was you know, that >> yeah. that was you know, that was a difficult job and he did it very well. i also i also wonder whether kwasi kwarteng announcing that he's stepping down in the next election is in fact him putting the knife in as

well. yeah, there's a reason he announced today, announced that today, right? >> i mean. >> that's what i mean. >> that's what i mean. >> now of all days. yeah. >> so now of all days. yeah. yeah. it's so catty isn't it. well it's not catty. it's he's clearly been harbouring hatred of some the humiliation of some sort for the humiliation heaped of some sort for the humiliation heacalled back from america . >> called back from america. >> called back from america. >> pictures his >> remember the pictures of his plane heathrow pulling plane at heathrow pulling in. and off, he's and when he gets off, he's sucked now. >> everyone he was sacked >> everyone knew he was sacked before. he was sacked? before. he knew he was sacked? >> yeah, he sacked in >> yeah, he was sacked in midair, wasn't he? >> so i think he's been >> so he. i think he's been harbouring for harbouring that resemble for quite a long time. >> and he's thought today right. i'm going let start. i'm not going to let you start. >> you know with a high you're going to start on a low because i was the chancellor >> you ruined career. >> you ruined my career. >> you ruined my career. >> i'm try. >> i'm going to try. >> i'm going to try. >> it's all about egos, >> so it's all about egos, personality and eye an eye personality and eye for an eye i'm sure i'm sure it is. >> for anybody now at this >> and for anybody now at this late to come up like liz late stage to come up like liz truss ah ha ha. truss and say, ah ha ha. >> what did baldrick to say? >> i've got a cunning plan, baldrick. >> perhaps have some. >> perhaps they have some. perhaps they have some genuinely good ideas. >> of people who used to >> a lot of people who used to support the conservative party and of and now don't are sick of overregulation it comes to

overregulation when it comes to net they sick of nanny net zero. they are sick of nanny state. they do to see taxes state. they do want to see taxes lower, want see lower, and they do want to see immigration down. that's what popcorn are saying. >> let's see liz >> well look let's see what liz truss actually saying. truss is actually saying. she's actually very, very good at saying problems are. saying what the problems are. but she's very, very poor at saying out with saying actually coming out with a did was a prescription. what she did was she absolute fundamental she did the absolute fundamental error and of error of modern politics and of modern economics, cut taxes and increase you cannot increase spending. you cannot you taxation. and you cannot reduce taxation. and increase expenditure. of course, what liz truss would the economy? >> well, this what liz truss >> well, this is what liz truss would say in response to that, that just a few weeks after that mini—budget, to mini—budget, she was going to announce side announce these supply side reforms where she was i mean, the first of them was already voted for allowing fracking in the that have the uk. that would have generated a lot of money. equally, there were so many more things came to planning things when it came to planning reform, it came to reform, when it came to regulatory, uh , divergence from regulatory, uh, divergence from the european of these the european union. all of these things. lot of economists things. what a lot of economists say that she does this the say is that she does this the wrong she should have wrong way round. she should have announced the regulatory changes first and then cut the taxes later. >> the easiest thing to have done would been what kemi

done would have been what kemi badenoch done the last badenoch has done over the last couple of months. >> all these eu >> and that's scrap all these eu laws. there were 4000 and laws. now, there were 4000 and they were go. seems they were due to go. it seems 2000 already gone. 2000 of them have already gone. i the other problem that i think the other problem that liz truss has created, the tories, is that when you come up on a stage like that and say, i'll tell you exactly what's wrong with the country, this is wrong, that's wrong, that's wrong, that's wrong, that's wrong, wrong. she hasn't wrong, that's wrong. she hasn't got time put it right. she's got time to put it right. she's just electorate just reminding the electorate how and how bad it all is and emphasising it, you know, from, from from labour from from the labour perspective, allowed from from the labour pe intrude e, allowed from from the labour peintrude on allowed from from the labour peintrude on occasionally. wed to intrude on occasionally. >> one thing that absolutely killed us was the fact that we had an alternative party called momentum. was party within momentum. it was a party within the party and it went they had organising, had their own organising, they had their own leaflets own leaflets and their own candidates, public took leaflets and their own can(lookes, public took leaflets and their own can(look at public took leaflets and their own can(look at that public took leaflets and their own can(look at that and)ublic took leaflets and their own can(look at that and said, took leaflets and their own can(look at that and said, we're one look at that and said, we're not going to vote a divided not going to vote for a divided party. what want unity, party. what we want is unity, coherence competence. coherence and competence. and i have made a ghastly have to say, we made a ghastly a total, almost a catastrophic error. and you think the conservative party are sort of allowing own momentum , allowing in their own momentum, of course, in this popcorn comparison come on between momentum uh, this popcorn,

momentum and, uh, this popcorn, i popcorn are basically i mean, popcorn are basically saying government is saying what the government is saying, saying saying, but they're saying they need it i don't need to do it more. i don't i don't get this divided party party thing. >> well, what i think is it's not a divided party. it's whether there's a strong enough leader . you whether there's a strong enough leader. you see what i mean? to ignore the divisions in the party and get on with a, you know, single view. >> mike. steven, i have to say, we are rapidly running out of popcorn . well, but just the popcorn. well, but just the final word said that disraeli had the conservative party was an organised hypocrisy . an organised hypocrisy. >> party is an >> the labour party is an amalgamation of different parties. we're all groups of people together. we don't parties. we're all groups of pec believe together. we don't parties. we're all groups of pec believe in together. we don't parties. we're all groups of pec believe in onejether. we don't parties. we're all groups of pecbelieve in one thing. we don't all believe in one thing. exactly. and but don't then exactly. and but you don't then set alternative parties, set up alternative parties, alternative groupings with badges and well, be badges and flags and well, be nice to think that our governing party was working for our best interests in our best interests. party was working for our best intebuts in our best interests. party was working for our best intebuts in our up,t interests. party was working for our best intebuts in our up, iinterests. party was working for our best intebuts in our up, i always s. >> but coming up, i always worked in your own right, steve. >> you'll be. >> you'll be. >> you'll be right back. you'll be back after the ad be right back after the ad break. so horses. break. so hold your horses. don't go anywhere. we're going break. so hold your horses. dobe go anywhere. we're going break. so hold your horses. dobe continuingre. we're going break. so hold your horses. dobe continuing these're going break. so hold your horses. dobe continuing these debates. to be continuing these debates. and should ban and also, should we ban smartphones 16

this very small group. you're listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. >> well, we're right back with you with the former labour mp stephen pound and broadcast writer mike parry. shall we pick up where we left off? things were getting rather jolly in the studio, but there is a heated i'd say we've got an exclusive story from stephen pound that he would like to share about his exercise habits. >> actually, before we get on to the issue of banning, before we get into the on to the issue, viewers are switching off all over the nation. viewers are switching off all ovewe e nation. viewers are switching off all ovewe haveion. viewers are switching off all ovewe have been talking about >> we have been talking about staying fit, about exercising and pound, when you and stephen pound, when you first elected to parliament first got elected to parliament back you had visit back in 1997, you had to visit the well, there was the gym. well, no, there was a diktat that came down from the whips office said, know, whips office said, you know, tony blair you we're tony blair said, you know, we're the got the servants now and we've got to get fit for purpose. we've got to actually get out there and do it. and they sent us to the gym, and i went into the gym, lovely one, gym, which was a lovely one,

just, just quite close to just, uh, just quite close to norman shaw south in those days, which one the buildings in which is one of the buildings in parliament. you know, the parliament. yeah. you know, the old building. parliament. yeah. you know, the old ashdown building. parliament. yeah. you know, the old ashdown was|ilding. parliament. yeah. you know, the old ashdown was leaping and paddy ashdown was leaping up and down and, you down doing starjumps. and, you know, a member of the know, as only a member of the sbs, the special boat squadron can they us to can do. anyway, they told us to run on this treadmill for half an and i had been an hour, and i had been treadmill half an hour. and treadmill for half an hour. and after 50. note i have to after about 50. note i have to say, between you me 16 say, between you and me and 16 million viewers, used to be a million viewers, i used to be a very, very smoker. very very, very heavy smoker. very heavy smoker and after about 20 minutes oh, this minutes i thought, oh, sod this for and a fag and so on. >> on the treadmill in the parliamentary gym. >> yeah, just cigarettes with you in the gym anyway. and ashdown across and starts ashdown comes across and starts giving grief about if it's giving me grief about as if it's somehow of order to torch somehow out of order to torch up, you to, to spark up up, you know, to, to spark up a snout i mean, how snout in the gym. i mean, how could and so i said to him, could you and so i said to him, listen, mate, we know where you get your exercise. listen, mate, we know where you get goodness :ise. you listen, mate, we know where you get goodness:ise. you know what? >> that is so funny? because if that happened now, i mean, i'd be shot. well, that'd be far enough for one. >> a story from one >> well, what a story from one addiction to another. should we ban smartphones 16? ban smartphones for under 16? it's a debate this

it's been a big debate this week. big debate week. it's been a big debate actually, in the wake of the tragic case of brianna ghey and her were perhaps her killers, who were perhaps some would say, radicalised on the web. but mike parry , is the dark web. but mike parry, is this a problem of kids having smartphones, or is there something else going on there? >> look, you can't ban them because parents want be in because parents want to be in touch children, don't touch with their children, don't they? only can they? and the only way you can do that is to make sure they've got a phone. what i don't understand we have much understand is we have so much technology which technology in the world which can and can guide missiles and everything and surely everything else, and surely there a way of there must be a way of restricting the content of a phone. mean, years , us for phone. i mean, for years, us for decades now, we've had a system on at home where on our televisions at home where parents can make sure children can't certain material. can't access certain material. well, there is, yeah, there are plenty of phones with parental controls. >> parents aren't buying them. >> parents aren't buying them. >> well, that case, you've >> well, in that case, you've got to strengthen up ability got to strengthen up the ability for buy them and for parents to buy them and also, how do you do that ? also, how do you do that? >> well, there are there are devices which parents can control from their phone to their children's phone.

>> do you see what i mean? >> do you see what i mean? >> now, the problem is, of course, children get smarter all the time and they find ways of overriding protective overriding those protective devices as apparently just having a look at it before it can be as something as silly as you putting the wrong, uh, date of birth into your phone to access stuff with no regulatory check against it. you see what i mean? but i mean, surely things like fingerprints or face recognition or something like that must be able to be inserted into phones to stop kids from accessing from britain's strictest headteacher the other day, and she said that what parents should do is buy the old fashioned brick phones. >> some of those ones >> you know, some of those ones that access to that don't have access to instagram and twitter and social media and basically only do text messages and phone calls . messages and phone calls. >> that's right. how little she then knows , you know, about the then knows, you know, about the modern and dad because modern mum and dad because there's way on god's green there's no way on god's green earth send earth you're going to send little sebastian with his little sebastian off with his brick yeah, but look, i brick nokia. yeah, but look, i had a beautiful brick nokia . had a beautiful brick nokia. yeah, was when they yeah, but that was when they were . were cool. >> everyone had

>> that's when everyone had a nokia. it that was a classic. nokia. is it that was a classic. >> not an antique. but look, look the states navy look, the united states navy came the thing about 15 came out with the thing about 15 years called tor , which years ago called tor, which sends it's sends the onion ring. and it's an encryption whereby an encryption process whereby you dark web, the you, the so—called dark web, the silk all that stuff to silk road, all that stuff to access it, you have to go through all these different fings through all these different rings hire and rings where you hire hit men and buy illegal and but you buy illegal drugs and but you also i find it almost too also and i find it almost too painful to even say, actually, where you can see people being killed tortured. that's killed and tortured. and that's what these two people were watching. the fact they got watching. now the fact they got into you ban phones watching. now the fact they got into now you ban phones watching. now the fact they got into now youchristmas. hones watching. now the fact they got into now youchristmas. i'mzs from now till christmas. i'm going make a blind of going to make a blind bit of difference, because you've got to go after the people who are actually putting to go after the people who are actuallycontent. putting to go after the people who are actually content. told ting to go after the people who are actuallycontent. told me it. up that content. you told me it. mike talks about technology. i agree, we've got be able to agree, we've got to be able to track back. you must be track this back. you you must be able remember the snuff able to remember the snuff movies the people the idea movies when the people the idea about where people were actually movies when the people the idea about killed people were actually movies when the people the idea about killed peyon.e were actually being killed on on. and i thought that was a joke. i thought that was a joke. i thought not a joke, but i thought not a joke, but i thought it was a yeah, it turned out that there was a place in mexico they're actually mexico where they're actually filming people being killed. we've to able track we've got to be able to track that. there's no country

that. surely there's no country in would actually in the world would actually defend people. defend the right to kill people. and it throughout and then broadcast it throughout the we've got to go to the world? we've got to go to the world? we've got to go to the source. stop it. cut it out. >> element of >> is there an element of parental neglect or laziness? sometimes parents sometimes times that parents might pass might just, you know, pass the ipad to the child just to keep them busy for a while, not really what they're really knowing what they're looking really knowing what they're loo i ng really knowing what they're loo i think there's degree of >> i think there's a degree of lack will, because lack of parental will, because all will to you, my all parents will say to you, my child need it. don't child doesn't need it. don't worry, that's that's my worry, that's that's not my child. worry, that's that's not my chiithey always say that. >> they always say that. >> they always say that. >> on that note, i'm afraid that's we've time for. that's all we've got time for. we've to get across to we've got to get across to martin daubney martin. what's coming on show? parents overshoulder. >> okay. prodigal returns. >> prince has landed. but >> prince harry has landed. but will be welcome king will he be welcome at king charles's bedside ? charles's bedside? >> um, left wing extremists >> um, the left wing extremists have taken country. have taken over the country. according to truss . is according to liz truss. is popular conservatism the answer , popular conservatism the answer, or we need a populist or do we need a populist revolution? albanian people smuggler gets a risible . two smuggler gets a risible. two years for people smuggling. plus people power. special bobbies on the beat and tidy up britain. >> that's all coming in after

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fizzle out as it moves through the snow the central belt. more snow showers into northern showers coming into northern scotland. early rain on the south coast could be a south coast could be quite a grey but for many grey morning here, but for many it's a fine , bright winter's day it's a fine, bright winter's day on wednesday and the winds will be tomorrow as well. but be lighter tomorrow as well. but it will be colder. temperatures only 6 degrees for most only 5 or 6 degrees for most places , maybe 8 or 9 further places, maybe 8 or 9 further south, but that's a good few degrees lower than today. and then thursday, wet then on thursday, the wet weather pushes further weather pushes back further north hits the colder air. north as it hits the colder air. a greater risk of some significant snow in parts of nonh significant snow in parts of north northern parts north wales. the northern parts of midlands, northern of the midlands, northern england and northern ireland. we have met office yellow have another met office yellow warning snow for thursday. warning for snow for thursday. do keep up to date with the forecast to see the warnings on the met office website. that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news .

>> good afternoon. it's 3 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. top story today prince harry has arrived in the uk to see king charles after his cancer diagnosis. the prodigal son returns the king's received support from across the world, of course, and i'll bring you messages from you, the gb news viewers and listeners who send their touching messages to his majesty . next up, liz truss is majesty. next up, liz truss is back in the public eye today. >> the former prime minister has criticised rishi sunaks government for failing to take on what she's called left wing extremists. >> is this yet another plot to sink sunak and liz truss? >> the answer for next? there's the latest on the manhunt for abdul ezedi, which is now incredibly in its sixth day. how on earth can britain's most wanted man simply disappear into thin air and liam halligan is a special report on the elderly

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