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>> good afternoon. it's 3 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. top story today prince harry has arrived in the uk to see king charles after his cancer diagnosis. the prodigal son returns the king's received support from across the world, of course, and i'll bring you messages from you, the gb news viewers and listeners who send their touching messages to his majesty . next up, liz truss is majesty. next up, liz truss is back in the public eye today. >> the former prime minister has criticised rishi sunaks government for failing to take on what she's called left wing extremists. >> is this yet another plot to sink sunak and liz truss? >> the answer for next? there's the latest on the manhunt for abdul ezedi, which is now incredibly in its sixth day. how on earth can britain's most wanted man simply disappear into thin air and liam halligan is a special report on the elderly
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people facing a crushing 63% increase in their social housing costs . that's all coming up in costs. that's all coming up in your next hour . so welcome to your next hour. so welcome to the show as usual. >> please get in touch all the usual ways. >> gbviews@gbnews.com. do you think that the popular conservatives are the answer? they say left wing extremists have taken control of the country. well, you were in power for 14 years. perhaps you could have stop them then. do we want popular conservatism or do you want something more radical and more populist? revolution also , more populist? revolution also, please send your messages to king charles. we've got hundreds of them coming in here. i'm going to read out a bunch of them during the show. please get in touch. but all that first after your latest news headline with francis . with sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much.
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and good afternoon from the gb news room. it's just gone 3:00. our top story today that we have been following here in the newsroom. the royal helicopter has spotted landing at has now been spotted landing at buckingham that's as the buckingham palace. that's as the king treatment for an king undergoes treatment for an unspecified of and unspecified form of cancer. and we're also hearing that in the last few minutes, it's being reported that prince harry has now arrived at clarence house to meet with his father. there after flying in to london from los angeles earlier this afternoon . it's unclear at this afternoon. it's unclear at this stage whether he'll meet with his brother as well. the prince of who's of wales, that is, who's expected to be carrying out some of his father's royal duties in coming days. the king reportedly told his sons about his diagnosis before buckingham palace made that announcement about his cancer last night. palace officials are hoping that the news will encourage others who are also affected by the illness . meanwhile, members of illness. meanwhile, members of the public have shared their best wishes for the king with gb news, but that it was already in hospital and he'd had the obviously the enlarged prostate .
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obviously the enlarged prostate. >> and i understand from reading the news this morning, it's not the news this morning, it's not the prostate that it's worried about. it's another form of cancen about. it's another form of cancer. um, but fact that cancer. um, but the fact that it's caught mega early, you it's been caught mega early, you know, hopefully should be fine. fingers crossed. >> think sad. it's >> i just think it's sad. it's the same as any family. if someone gets that sort of news, obviously it's going to be devastating. but i suppose devastating. uh but i suppose he's handling it pretty well at first. >> it's so sad really, with the loss of the queen not too long ago. now he's having cancer. yeah, it's a sad time . police yeah, it's a sad time. police say that they believe there are people who know the whereabouts of this man . of this man. >> that's been suspected in a recent chemical attack. who they say have chosen not to come forward . and abdul ezedi is forward. and abdul ezedi is wanted in connection with the attack that left a woman critically injured. and now in danger of losing her sight in her right eye. a £20,000 reward is in place for anyone who may have information leading to his arrest , and the police are arrest, and the police are warning that anyone found to have suspect will
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have assisted the suspect will face arrest. as eddie was last seen leaving tower hill tube station in east london just after 930 last wednesday evening . police are urging anyone with information to come forward . liz information to come forward. liz truss has said today that democracy has become unpopular. that's as she unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas. the popular conservatives movement, or popcorn as it's being called, aims to take on what the former prime minister has called left wing extremists . the liberal wing extremists. the liberal democrats accused those some of those present at today's conference of economic vandalism. but mistrust told gb news she thinks left wing ideas have gone too far . have gone too far. >> problems we have as though we've got a conservative government and what we're seeing in our schools , in our in our schools, in our universities, in our corporate sector is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas, people of britain want us to deal with the real issues.
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immigration is too high. the government's too big. taxes are too high. but what we constantly hearis too high. but what we constantly hear is the left . so popcorn is hear is the left. so popcorn is about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging the left wing orthodoxy and making it positive to be a concern of a 46 year old man has been arrested today on suspicion of malicious communication following reports of an abusive and threatening phone call to a conservative. >> mps office. mike freer announced his decision to quit politics last week, telling gb news that's because he fears for his safety . the justice minister his safety. the justice minister has been the target of several death threats in recent weeks, and an arson attack on his constituency office. houthi militants . constituency office. houthi militants. in yemen have constituency office. houthi militants . in yemen have now militants. in yemen have now said they fired at two ships in the red sea, damaging both vessels. it's understood a british cargo ship was one of the vessels involved in those recent attacks. after it was hit by naval missiles around 60 miles off the coast of yemen. the houthis, who were backed by
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iran, say the attacks will escalate if israel's activities in gaza don't stop . the social in gaza don't stop. the social media company meta says that it will start labelling images that have been created using artificial intelligence. it means that any images posted to facebook or instagram, or threads that were created using ai will automatically be flagged. the company says it's currently building the new tool, and it will be rolled out in the coming months. meta says it will reduce the ability of bad actors to distribute deceitful content on its platforms . labour has on its platforms. labour has accused downing street of leaving the financial crisis in local councils across the country for the next government to solve. clive betts, who's the labour chairman of the levelling up committee, warns that many people will see the rates in rises in rates as councils look to plug their funding gaps. that's after more than a decade of warnings over financial pressures in local councils, which have put their vital services under severe strain . an
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services under severe strain. an finally, some political to news sink your teeth into a set of dentures worn by winston churchill hill are now up for auction . on the false teeth were auction. on the false teeth were worn by the former prime minister during many of his most famous speeches, and they were designed to protect his natural lisp. they'll go under the hammer in cheltenham with an expected price of around £8,000. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com. forward slash alerts. >> thank you sam. now we start with the latest on king charles. >> after the shock news that he has cancer in the last few hours, harry arrived hours, prince harry has arrived in uk to visit his father. in the uk to visit his father. >> let's cross now straight to buckingham palace speak to buckingham palace and speak to gb royal correspondent gb news royal correspondent cameron walker.
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>> cameron, welcome the show. >> cameron, welcome to the show. so the prodigal son has landed. the question he be the big question is will he be welcome ? welcome? >> well, martin, you talk about the last few hours. i can talk about the last few minutes because prince harry has indeed arrived at clarence house. he he arrived at clarence house. he he arrived at clarence house. he he arrived at 2:42 pm. according to the press association, two black suvs were pictured leaving the windsor vip suites at heathrow airport this lunchtime, accompanied by two police cars. those same two black cars have been pictured entering clarence. the clarence house precincts. some paparazzi images on the tabloids newspaper websites here in the united kingdom picture prince harry in the back seat. we know from a source close to the duke of sussex that the prince was travelling from los angeles by himself, without meghan or his two children, to the united kingdom to see his father following the king's cancer diagnosed ipsis. of course, that perhaps highlights the seriousness of the situation
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, but also highlights perhaps the bonds that they have. despite their clear differences. because as you say, how welcome is he going to be? well, we've had the memoir spare. we've had the netflix series, which perhaps didn't go down too well with the royal family the crown estates kicked him out of frogmore following the frogmore cottage following the publication of his memoirs , publication of his memoirs, spare, so it is actually unclear this afternoon . martin, where this afternoon. martin, where prince harry is going to be welcomed to stay . of course, you welcomed to stay. of course, you could say to you or i or any ordinary person , well, king ordinary person, well, king charles is prince harry's dad . charles is prince harry's dad. why can't he just stay in one of the rooms in clarence house the many rooms in clarence house or buckingham palace me, or buckingham palace behind me, or buckingham palace behind me, or well, it's or windsor, etc? well, it's thought a member the thought well, as a member of the royal family , what if you're royal family, what if you're being invited by sovereign ? being invited by the sovereign? you need an official invitation, an warning. but we'll an advance warning. but we'll have see. no details have to wait and see. no details have to wait and see. no details have confirmed by either have been confirmed by either party. buckingham palace or indeed prince harry's spokespeople either. but the breaking news this afternoon is that prince is inside that prince harry is inside clarence house with the king. >> okay, cameron walker, live
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from buckingham palace . from buckingham palace. >> thank you very much. as we said there, the prodigal son has returned. prince harry has landed. i'm joined now by the royal biographer, angela levin. >> angela, welcome to the show. it's always a pleasure . it's always a pleasure. >> harry has landed. >> so harry has landed. >> so harry has landed. >> he's been shaken out of california by this shocking news. >> the question is, will he be welcome at the palace? >> yes . or welcome at the palace? >> yes. or will he welcome at the palace? >> yes . or will he really want >> yes. or will he really want to be there? i mean, i think that's two questions here. um, when i spent 15 months with harry in 2018, he was absolutely . he, um, a lovely young man and adored his father . . he, um, a lovely young man and adored his father. he got on with him very well from childhood, where william was getting on better with diana and suffered that way. but he's now very hardened and he has said that he doesn't want to actually meet his father until he apologises. and that is mainly apologies that they haven't looked after meghan in and about his father , that he never
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his father, that he never supported him . so it's supported him. so it's interesting now that he's had the courage. and i do think he has to be a certain amount of courage to get him to come over and face, um, his family. i suspect that meghan there suspect that meghan there suspect that meghan there suspect that , um, camilla will suspect that, um, camilla will stay in the room because you don't quite know what he's going to say or what level of, um, atmosphere he's going to create atmosphere he's going to create at and see what's happening . um, at and see what's happening. um, there's very many reasons why he might be coming. one is that he suddenly feels in the depths of his heart that he's always loved his heart that he's always loved his father and has made a terrible mistake, and he will come over and say that he can do it because he thinks that he can up his popularity in america, which is very low, get more jobs. or that he can actually jobs. um or that he can actually manage to get that apology at last. so it's an enormous spectre . um, and it's difficult spectre. um, and it's difficult to know how it's going to happen
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. um, i think that if king charles is not. well, um, even if he feels that not too bad that he is has got a very stressful time. now that you don't want harry to make him feel more stressed. i mean, he's had four years of harry giving him the most terrible stress, which can make people quite unwell. and he's got to think about it . um, unwell. and he's got to think about it. um, i just hope that harry finds something in his heart, but if he does, then he comes up against trouble with meghan. because meghan hates this country . she she doesn't this country. she she doesn't like the royal family and she's very, very strong minded and rules the roost there. so if he wants to stay here, you said earlier he was going to do some, um, engagements for his father. my um, engagements for his father. my goodness , that's going to my goodness, that's going to cause a lot of trouble . cause a lot of trouble. >> angela, from commoner to king, time waits for no man. >> and when faced with mortality like this , do you think harry
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like this, do you think harry might be? >> finally, she shaken out of this kind of narcissistic fog? >> this. it's all about me attitude that he has. >> because oftentimes in every normal family, we can see that when faced with illness like this, people actually put their differences to one side because some good come out of it in that respect. because the big question is william. of course, william. now being thrust perhaps forward sooner than anticipated into the role as next potential king. >> but of course, harry is suddenly the story once again . suddenly the story once again. >> yes. well, it's very interesting with william because he's going to have a lot of pressure because he will, um, he's starting work tomorrow and he's starting work tomorrow and he will do a lot of things for his father, but i don't think he will talk to harry. and i quite understand it because he attacked, um , his wife. um, so attacked, um, his wife. um, so much that it's very, very upsetting for him. i think that if your partner, um, is criticised to the extreme , um,
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criticised to the extreme, um, as, um, that she has that you would find it impossible to have a friendship with him and he said that, um, she was lazy. she was, um. uh unpleasant and all those things. when he did say that she wanted . when, when they that she wanted. when, when they were much younger , when she came were much younger, when she came on 4 or 5 years ago that she was the, uh, sister he'd always wanted. so it is, um , uh, for wanted. so it is, um, uh, for catherine, uh, quite a shock to have him there, but also much more for william . more for william. >> okay. angela levin, royal biographer , thank you very much biographer, thank you very much for joining us on the show. it's forjoining us on the show. it's always a pleasure to speak with you. now, we, of course, the people's channel. >> and so we've wanted to give the great british public the chance to send their best wishes to charles. chance to send their best wishes to well,harles. chance to send their best wishes to well, itirles. chance to send their best wishes to well, it happens to everybody >> well, it happens to everybody , didn't it, you know, hope he has a speedy recovery . has a speedy recovery. >> i admire him publicly putting out that he has cancer and that
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actually families do come together at that time. and i think if that be in support think if that can be in support of other people having to be open about diagnosis and how they manage that diagnosis, and i think it's really important. so i really do admire the fact that something may want to that something he may want to keep he's public keep private, he's gone public about think that's about it. and i think that's quite important. >> it's sad. it's >> i just think it's sad. it's the same as family. if the same as any family. if someone gets sort of news, someone gets that sort of news, obviously going be obviously it's going to be devastating but devastating. and, uh, but i suppose he's handling it pretty well at first until he knows exactly how bad it is. and you know, hopefully he'll , he'll know, hopefully he'll, he'll it'll come through it. >> i'm saddened . it'll come through it. >> i'm saddened. i it'll come through it. >> i'm saddened . i mean, it'll come through it. >> i'm saddened. i mean, he's been waiting all these years to been waiting all these years to be king and this has happened. so i'm really sad for him. but on the other hand, i'm also glad that he's been able to talk about it. they're being much more open about it. >> okay. and you can send your best wishes to king charles on
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the gb news website. and lots of you have already done that. >> and here's just a few that we're going to read out now. >> meena says this. >> meena says this. >> my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family through >> my thoughts and prayers are withchallenging jr family through >> my thoughts and prayers are withchallenginng famin through >> my thoughts and prayers are withchallenginng famin these gh this challenging time. in these moments , we can do our best and moments, we can do our best and leave the experts do the rest i >> -- >> but badir adds, this your majesty, king charles, in this challenging time, my thoughts and prayers are with you as you face this illness. with courage and resilience. may you find strength in the support of your loved ones and the well—wishers of your people. wishing you comfort , healing, and the best comfort, healing, and the best possible care as you navigate this journey towards recovery and alex adds this sending my best wishes to his majesty for a speedy and painless recovery. long live the king! superb thank you very much and please keep sending your messages in. we'll read them out. of course, throughout the show we know they watch at the palace. so this is the special way of getting in
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questions to me, scan the qr code on screen or go to gb news.com. see you there. >> welcome back. the things we talk about on breaks. >> it's 322. >> it's 322. >> you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news is now a little later this hour we'll get the latest on the search for abdul azizi. staggeringly, on day six of the manhunt for britain's most wanted man . but before that, liz wanted man. but before that, liz truss is back. the woman who lasted just 44 days as prime minister, has launched a new movement called popular conservatives and she's hit out at rishi sunak's government for failing to take on what she called left wing extremists . called left wing extremists. well, i'm joined now by our political editor, christopher hope, who was at the launch of the group that's been dubbed the pop cons. and i found it fascinating to watch. now it's fair to say, um, the press
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hasn't been too kind to this. truss herself isn't very popular. she's got the lowest approval rating of any ironically, tory minister. >> popular conservatism. so is she. >> has she got the right message 7 >> has she got the right message ? but is she the wrong person? well i'm not going to judge that. >> i think that the message there was was fascinating. i can imagine rishi sunak agreeing with virtually every word that was you heard was said in there. you heard from rees—mogg, the of from jacob rees—mogg, the age of davos over. um, you davos man is over. um, you putting individuals before collectivism. he talked about reworking the relationship between parliament and the judiciary , scrapping the supreme judiciary, scrapping the supreme court, putting it into parliament like the old days and the lords. lee anderson was the law lords. lee anderson was there, former party chair, uh, chairman, deputy chairman. also like like mr rees—mogg, presenter on gb news no one cares about cop. he says he's here said to me , he said in his here said to me, he said in his speech. they don't chase me down the street. um people in ashfield demanding to know why we're not cutting carbon emissions. he says it's not cutting you offer cutting through. um you offer
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the idea of opting out of green tariffs, and we had we had the last that trio was liz truss, former prime minister, um, talking about how too many of her colleagues are trying to look polite in dinner parties in north london and ignoring the views of those outside of the m25. she attacked colleagues. let's think about michael gove, who met with greta thunberg , the who met with greta thunberg, the green protester , you know, green protester, you know, stopped trying to triangulate around the left and be authentically tory. now, we interviewed afterwards, um , interviewed afterwards, um, david frost and said, why are you saying you've been in power for 14 years? he said, well, not really. will it be in in actual power for about five of those? but i did speak to liz truss before it all started, and she had quite interesting had this quite interesting message wokery. message about wokery. >> we have though we've >> since we have as though we've got conservative government got a conservative government and seeing in our and what we're seeing in our schools , our universities, in schools, in our universities, in our corporate sector, is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas. spreading of wokery of left wing ideas . and what popcon about is ideas. and what popcon about is aboutis
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ideas. and what popcon about is about is about combating that because the people of britain want us to deal with a real issues, immigration is too high. the government's too big, taxes are too high. but what we constantly hear is the left. so popcorn is about challenging that. it's about challenging the left wing orthodoxy . left wing orthodoxy. >> we hear is my big question on this is wokery the left to blame, or is it actually the conservatives not being concerned enough? they've been in power for 14 years, no matter what frost says. and the fact of the matter is, we are seeing a rise of proper conservatism on the continent . in the the continent. in the netherlands, geert wilders , the netherlands, geert wilders, the freedom party, sweden, the democrat italy, melonis brothers of italy , france, le pen, of italy, france, le pen, germany , afd, donald trump in germany, afd, donald trump in america proper, conservatives are fighting . back. right wing, are fighting. back. right wing, you might say some of them. but the fact of the matter is, the popular parties are getting traction, is tinkering with the tories the right answer? >> all those parties are to the
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right of the tory party, and in many in the tory party right now, would not want to associate with many of those parties. yeah, think that there is yeah, i think that there is a feeling you know, feeling that the, you know, the people have fat on, people are have grown fat on, um, ignoring the people. i mean , um, ignoring the people. i mean, instead draw a line back instead the you draw a line back to brexit in 2016 when, when this country pulled power back from brussels and gave it to whitehall and the frustration i felt was that this gift that was given to the tory party, tory ministers and whitehall to run, to run this country on their own terms, not hide behind the apron strings or apron apron of brussels hasn't been grasped at all. and that's the point. and that's i think you heard that's why i think you heard rees—mogg saying, getting rees—mogg there saying, getting more people more in touch with what people think. part think. maybe that's what part of what gb news appeal that we don't do. what other don't really do. what other journalists want us write journalists want us to write about. viewers about. we do what the viewers and want hear and listeners want to hear about. and that that's about. yeah. and that that's part of the issue. i looked at looking what didn't see looking at what you didn't see on camera, though. martin on the camera, though. martin was the room right now? was who's in the room right now? i cantini, a former was who's in the room right now? i player cantini, a former was who's in the room right now? i player in antini, a former was who's in the room right now? i player in johnson's,rmer was who's in the room right now? i player in johnson's, at er key player in johnson's, at number 10. um, i saw nick candy,
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a big donor, and andrew reid, a treasurer of the brexit party. a big donor, and andrew reid, a treaslord of the brexit party. a big donor, and andrew reid, a treaslord ashcroft,3xit party. a big donor, and andrew reid, a treaslord ashcroft, michael. um, lord ashcroft, michael ashcroft, know, was ashcroft, you know, there was money in that and there money in that room. and there was strategists in was also tory strategists in that . they barely touched that room. they barely touched on migration . very interesting. on migration. very interesting. they talked about pulling they talked a bit about pulling out well, that's out the echr. well, that's that's big issue even in the that's a big issue even in the tory the house of tory party in the house of commons. that, um, in commons. so i think that, um, in the sense the big elephant in the sense the big elephant in the room that wasn't addressed was migration. and arguably was net migration. and arguably that's been allowed to happen despite impact on despite the impact on communities. yes, that the gb news a lot too, but news serves a lot too, but i think was i think it wasn't think it was i think it wasn't something to worry about for rishi sunak, because he would probably most of what probably agree with most of what was said. but certainly it's a it's a new power developing it's a new power base developing in won't be in the country, which won't be helpful cchq to somebody else helpful to cchq to somebody else who of course, was who was there, of course, was nigel farage. >> and you have to ask the question, when does this feel the popkomm movement like a way of defang king farage get the money into the tory party, make the right noises on on pushing back on wokery make the right noises on pushing back against net zero and then in the end
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hope everyone will vote for the conservative party anyway. >> well, i think defanging reform actually, that's what i mean. reform. well mean. yeah by reform. yeah. well yeah. of course, nigel yeah. because of course, nigel farage presenter of gb farage is a presenter of gb news. lifetime news. he's also the lifetime honorary president of reform uk. he was there as a journalist and he's discussing, i think, the popcorn event later with me on his his show tonight at 7:00. that was why he was there . but that was why he was there. but also he does wear this other hat and he is obviously a player in politics and want the tory politics and does want the tory party thinks tory party party or thinks the tory party will very well after the will not do very well after the election. yeah, i think election. um, so yeah, i think thatis election. um, so yeah, i think that is almost, you know, today's event was indicative, i think, of the pressure on the party more wing. party to be more right wing. >> nigel say to you >> and nigel did say to you earlier that , um, he hopes that earlier that, um, he hopes that the tories get, you know, wiped out in the next election. but he did hint he might be a part of the rebuild of the conservative party if the right, as he called it, were to regroup around a flag. so think a couple of chess moves ahead . what about that? moves ahead. what about that? the prospect of farage getting
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back into the conservative party being talked about forever? of course he rolls his eyes and denies but was there. denies it, but he was there. he's the room . he's in the room. >> yes. and there's a lot of moves to there. i mean, moves to get there. i mean, i think the tory party completely let nigel when it let down nigel farage when it when stood down, all those when he stood down, all those candidates brexit candidates. and for the brexit party back in 2019, almost giving tory party their giving the tory party their landslide and got thanks landslide and got zero thanks for he felt he had, as i for it, he felt he had, as i understand it, he'd done a lot there try and deal, deal with there to try and deal, deal with helping brexit deal helping deliver that brexit deal and thanks he may and didn't get the thanks he may have i there's have deserved. i think there's lots history the lots of history there with the party. the party also won't trust him. i mean, the party has got to completely destroyed trust him. i mean, the party has got farage :ompletely destroyed trust him. i mean, the party has got farage to npletely destroyed trust him. i mean, the party has got farage to take ely destroyed trust him. i mean, the party has got farage to take ely debut yed for farage to take over, but thatis for farage to take over, but that is certainly a conversation over a in westminster right over a pint in westminster right now is gets into the gets now is how he gets into the gets the to cchq. the keys to cchq. >> stuff . and the founder, >> great stuff. and the founder, the leader of pop cons, mark littleworth joins us in the studio today here at 530, at the end of a long day, let's put him to the fire, see what he's got to the fire, see what he's got to say. an exciting day in politics, chris. hope, always a pleasure. there's lots more still to between now and still to come between now and 4:00. the story of the
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4:00. i'll have the story of the albanian who smuggled 4:00. i'll have the story of the albaniof who smuggled 4:00. i'll have the story of the albaniof migrants» smuggled 4:00. i'll have the story of the albaniof migrants acrossgled 4:00. i'll have the story of the albaniof migrants across the group of migrants across the nonh group of migrants across the north a tiny, cramped north sea and a tiny, cramped yacht. north sea and a tiny, cramped yacht . and guess what? he's been yacht. and guess what? he's been jailed for less three jailed for less than three years. where's deterrent? years. where's the deterrent? with meagre as with a punishment as meagre as that. first, here's your that. but first, here's your latest news headlines with sam francis . francis. >> martin, thank you very much . >> martin, thank you very much. and good afternoon. from the gb news room. it's just gone half past three. we start with some breaking news coming to us from the us . a court there has ruled the us. a court there has ruled that donald donald trump is not immune to charges that he plotted to overturn the 2020 election. it means that the former president is now one step closer to a criminal trial, a move that could be unprecedented in american political history. his lawyers had argued that the former president's can't be prosecuted for official actions, but a panel of judges disagreed. mr trump is likely to appeal that ruling , and if he were to that ruling, and if he were to win the next election, he could
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seek to pardon himself back here in the uk , prince harry has now in the uk, prince harry has now arrived at clarence house to meet with his father , as the meet with his father, as the king undergoes treatment for an unspecified form of cancer . unspecified form of cancer. prince harry flew into london from los angeles overnight. it's unclear whether he'll also meet with his brother, the prince of wales, who is expected to carry out some of his father's royal dufies. out some of his father's royal duties . the king reportedly told duties. the king reportedly told his sons about his diagnosis before buckingham palace made that announcement last night . that announcement last night. palace officials also hope that the news encourages others who are affected by the illness . a are affected by the illness. a £20,000 reward is being offered for anyone with information on the whereabouts of a man wanted in connection with a chemical attack in south london. abdul ezedi is suspected of attacking a woman with a corrosive substance, leaving her with potentially life changing injuries. police are also warning that anyone found to have assisted the suspect will face arrest. azadi was last seen
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leaving tower hill tube station in east london just after 930 on wednesday evening. last week, liz truss today has said that democracy has become unpopular as she unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas. the popular conservatives movement, or popcon, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the liberal democrats have accused some of those present today at that conference of economic vandalism , and the social media company meta is said to be starting to label images on its platforms that have been created using artificial intelligence. it means that any images posted to facebook , instagram or threads facebook, instagram or threads that were created using ai will automatically be flagged, meta says it's aimed to reduce the ability of bad actors that distribute deceitful content . distribute deceitful content. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts . for
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forward slash alerts. for stunning gold and silver coins . stunning gold and silver coins. >> you'll always value ros and gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report that , and news financial report that, and here's a look at the markets this afternoon. >> the pound will buy you $1.2572 and ,1.1705. the price of gold is currently £1,615.64 per ounce, and the ftse 100 at 7669 points. roslyn gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> thanks, sam. now chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi has been missing since last wednesday evening and the police still don't seem to have any idea where britain's most wanted
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of job that i maybe not love and have to then do it till i'm 71 years old, i, i would be very distressed about this. >> you're listening to gb news radio 2024, a battleground year, the year the nation decides as the year the nation decides as the parties gear up their campaigns the general election. >> who will be left standing when the british people make one of biggest decisions of of the biggest decisions of their of the biggest decisions of the who will rise and who will fall? >> let's find out together. >> let's find out together. >> for every moment, the highs, the lows, the twists and turns , the lows, the twists and turns, we'll be with you for every step of this journey. in 2024. gbp news is britain's election . channel >> welcome back. it's almost 338 and you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now later this hour i'll talk about the albanian man convicted of people smuggling who's been
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jailed less than three jailed for less than three years. what a pathetic deterrent thatis years. what a pathetic deterrent that is . now it's a question that is. now it's a question that is. now it's a question that has got the metropolitan police stumped . just where is police stumped. just where is abdul al—zeidi? britain's most wanted man? it's now day six of the manhunt for yazidi . he the manhunt for yazidi. he suspected of the chemical attack on a mother and her two daughters in south london last week. well, our reporter , ray week. well, our reporter, ray addison, is at new scotland yard. ray, welcome to the show. so the big question is six days on. how is ezidi simply vanished into thin air? >> well, it's fascinating , >> well, it's fascinating, martin, we know that the last time he was spotted was on when ? time he was spotted was on when? thursday evening, 958. he was walking towards suffolk bridge . walking towards suffolk bridge. he'd been tracked by police because he was using his bank card when he was on the underground , and he took quite underground, and he took quite a convoluted route. he went from clapham to king's cross and then king's cross .
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clapham to king's cross and then king's cross. he clapham to king's cross and then king's cross . he went, uh, king's cross. he went, uh, eastwards and then eastwards. he went back to the, to the south and he went all over the network, perhaps in an attempt to try and shake police off his tail or, um, lose , lose, lose tail or, um, lose, lose, lose their suspicions of him. but a fresh details have actually emerged in the last half an hour about the sexual offences that he pled guilty to back in 2018. it's . emerged that in 2017, it's. emerged that in 2017, azadi was accused of grabbing the bottom of a woman without her consent. that same year, he also exposed himself and committed a sex act . now the committed a sex act. now the victim, uh, has not been revealed for those offences, but he did avoid jail. we know that he did avoid jail. we know that he avoided jail because he pleaded guilty to charges of sexual assault and exposure. he was handed a suspended sentence placed on the sex offender register for, um, ten years and he had to pay carry out 200 hours of community work as well.
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but those details , sales of but those details, sales of those sexual offences will be particularly concerning for people , especially knowing that people, especially knowing that he's in the south. >> so we know that the money know where he 9/11 know . know where he 9/11 know. >> yeah, it looks like looks like radisson has been hijacked by somebody who's decided to come and have a little sing come in and have a little sing song, an appropriate moment. song, not an appropriate moment. just you caught there. just so you caught that there. the latest information from ray allison? of course . azadi is allison? of course. azadi is still at large. is ray back with us? ray is gone. just to fill you in on the information. so the criminal record of abdul ezedi has now been made public in the last 30 minutes. just to recap on that, in 2017, he groped a woman's bum . um, he groped a woman's bum. um, he exposed himself and committed a sex act. was then placed for ten years on the sex offenders register. but of course , all of register. but of course, all of those sentences were suspended.
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so azadi remained at large . and so azadi remained at large. and then, of course, went on to have a miraculous conversion to christianity, which meant on the third attempt, azadi was allowed a right of remain to stay in the uk, and then is now the most wanted suspect in this alkali chemical attack. in south london on wednesday , and remains at on wednesday, and remains at large . an astonishing six days large. an astonishing six days on in a city where you can't even turn right into the wrong street without getting nicked, astonish thing. now in a few minutes i'll have a report on lee residents who say they've been living in fear after their housing association demanded a staggering 683% increase in their rent . staggering 683% increase in their rent. but staggering 683% increase in their rent . but first staggering 683% increase in their rent. but first in a new gb news series , innovation gb news series, innovation britain. we're looking at the success of british manufacturing around the country.
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>> how many companies do you know that export? >> 65% of what they make ? >> 65% of what they make? >> 65% of what they make? >> andrew watts export market being like for you this year ? being like for you this year? >> it's really held up. well. the export market has grown . um, the export market has grown. um, so we've had a nice growth on that point, but also we've had good sustained business on on a uk basis as well. >> now , obviously you've been a >> now, obviously you've been a uk company for over 40 years, so what's it been like through them years? >> everybody's had their ups and downs and we're no different. >> but since the oh eight crash we're we're right back up to the same sort of figures, if not more so we've had certainly really good growth over the last certainly ten years. >> so what's this year been like for you? >> good, good. we've we've seen some some work certainly coming from the defence side of things with the political situation as it stands at the minute, there's
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been spending on on defence this year and that will certainly continue into the future . and continue into the future. and obviously we've talked about how much you export. so what work do you actually do and what industries do you work in. it's all basically petrochemical, refinery , uh, nuclear with refinery, uh, nuclear with hinkley point coming on. uh coming on soon. that's been good for us. there's hopefully going to be sebby's corner c coming up.and to be sebby's corner c coming up. and that should be good for us as well. now just last question. obviously there's a lot of bad news in uk manufacturing. but how are you finding it as a business owner? it's been it's been difficult . it's been it's been difficult. certain things have have given us some challenges, but i think those challenges are the same the world over. i think you know, generally uk manufacturing in is in a fairly good.
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>> welcome back. 347 now, next monday, prime minister rishi sunak will appear in a special show on gb news he'll be answering questions from you , answering questions from you, the great british public and you can be in that audience and be scanned. the qr code you can see right now on your screen or go to gbnews.com forward slash pm gb news people's forum. the prime minister will be live at 8:00 next monday, so get those questions in. now let's bring you an update on king charles. the king has left clarence house and is believed to be preparing to travel by helicopter to sandringham in norfolk , the day sandringham in norfolk, the day after he began his treatment for cancen after he began his treatment for cancer. it's been reported prince harry left clarence house shortly before , having spent shortly before, having spent around 45 minutes with his father. you can see pictures there of the king and queen heading off from the palace now
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to a story that i think is a great example of why we can't solve the never ending migrant crisis . an albanian man who crisis. an albanian man who smuggled 12 migrants across the nonh smuggled 12 migrants across the north sea towards the uk has been jailed for less than three years. edward mukaj pleaded guilty to facilitating illegal entry to the uk and attempting to arrive in the uk himself without even having valid entry clearance. he was sentenced to two years and eight months in prison. well, i'm joined now by rebecca jane , who's the former rebecca jane, who's the former deputy leader of ukip , to deputy leader of ukip, to discuss this case. >> welcome to the show, rebecca. >> welcome to the show, rebecca. >> what does it say to you about the risible state of our detention system when somebody who smuggled 12 illegals in a tiny boat , who smuggled 12 illegals in a tiny boat, barely who smuggled 12 illegals in a tiny boat , barely seaworthy, tiny boat, barely seaworthy, gets a sentence less than you might get for dangerous driving? it tells me exactly how our government think about
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immigration. >> they don't care. you know, we've said it for goodness knows how long. now. we can't ignore the fact that they are completely gaslighting the pubuc completely gaslighting the public by claiming to actually care about immigration. meanwhile they're giving off these light sentences and declaring that they've, you know, more miraculously solved the problem of the backlog of applications for asylum, when actually they just waved them all through , you know, all through, you know, gaslighting . it's the only way gaslighting. it's the only way to describe it . to describe it. >> and rebecca, we hear all the time about clamping down on criminal gangs, you know, from the tories and the labour party. and yet when they do clamp down on a criminal gang, he gets a risible two years and eight months. this ship, this small yacht, was three times its capacity , had a faulty engine in capacity, had a faulty engine in the north sea, no life jackets , the north sea, no life jackets, no harnesses for anybody on board, a death trap ship and a joke sentence . joke sentence. >> yeah, i mean, there's no clamping down there, is there? but there's no clamping down with anything that they do about
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immigration. it's a constant, repetitive pile of nonsense of them saying , yes, we care. this them saying, yes, we care. this is a deterrent. there's nothing deterrent about any of this. you know, people are enticed to come to the uk for this wonderful, fantastic new life. they throw out the rwanda plan, which is complete and utter nonsense and will never happen because they actually all they're doing the conservative party martin, is they are playing for time until they're out of power and then they're out of power and then they can turn around and go, oh, well, we cared about immigration. no you didn't. and what's actually going to happen is labour is going to come in and going to be a mass free and it's going to be a mass free for all. as we know. so there's no deterrent, there's no actual , no deterrent, there's no actual, you know, to do anything you know, drive to do anything about this. and they don't even care what public care about what the public thinks, in absolute outcry. >> okay. we have to leave it there. thank you very much for joining jane, the joining us, rebecca jane, the former of ukip. former deputy leader of ukip. thanks joining on thanks for joining us on gb news. now how social housing tenants in salisbury say they've
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been living in fear after their housing demand did housing association demand did a huge hike in weekly repayments. pembroke house, which is the block comprising of 38 flats, is home to many elderly people living on housing benefits . liam living on housing benefits. liam halligan has a special report with on the money . with on the money. >> james monroe will soon be 80. he lives alone as diabetic and at night needs a breathing machine to survive . he's ill for machine to survive. he's ill for much of his working life. james is reliant on subsidised social housing. his flat owned by stonewater, a not for profit housing association. stonewall to last year, wrote to dozens of tenants in james's block demanding a 63% rise in accommodation costs . accommodation costs. >> that is what they wrote when the duel happened , and we didn't the duel happened, and we didn't believe it. >> he was there were people walking around looking lost. >> there was no explanation, there was no warning
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>> 1 or 2 hinted that they were going to be increasing it, but 63% it's unaffordable for a typical tenant in james's building. >> pembroke house faced a weekly rent rise . from 166 to £271.20. rent rise. from 166 to £271.20. that's 63% more. an extra £5,260 a year, while accommodation costs were around 11% higher. stonewall justified the bulk of the increase by referring to higher energy and electricity prices, for which tenants crucially can't claim extra housing benefit. >> never felt lonely there. >> never felt lonely there. >> long time pembroke house resident jenny fiddler was , in resident jenny fiddler was, in her words, so petrified by this huge rent rise she moved to more cramped housing elsewhere , away cramped housing elsewhere, away from her friends , jenny was from her friends, jenny was forced to give away most of her furniture as her new accommodation away from numerous friends is much smaller. this 78 year old widow says. news of sam water's sudden rent hike made her cry and cry devastating.
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>> i tell you now, and not many people know this had a complete mental breakdown down, so don't go any further. >> her her there. i'm getting overit >> her her there. i'm getting over it now. i'm surviving . but over it now. i'm surviving. but it's hard. >> hard at my age. officials at wiltshire council are angry a house stonewater is treating its tenants in salisbury , one of the tenants in salisbury, one of the larger housing associations , as larger housing associations, as stonewater manages 36,000 homes across britain , turning over across britain, turning over hundreds of millions of pounds. >> the leader of wiltshire council says he was absolutely furious at stone water's 63% rent increase at pembroke house. >> i think they're not behaving like a social landlord. they're a charitable organisation. they exist to provide a safety net to have a social purpose, and instead they , they and many instead they, they and many other large housing associations are increasingly behaving like developers. they're not focusing on the people they're there to look after. >> and the top people pay
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themselves quite a lot of money as well. >> they certainly do. you're looking at at something pushing £300,000 these organisations executive. these organisations and profit sector. and the not for profit sector. absolutely, yes. >> stone told us this. >> stone water told us this. >> stone water told us this. >> understand customers >> we understand customers concerns about the increases in rents and service charges last year and have a wide range of supports in place for anyone struggling . we've been working struggling. we've been working with customers across all our schemes to reduce energy use, which makes up the bulk of service charges, james and some other pembroke house tenants are appealing. stone water's price rises as they face an uncertain future . we're worried about the future. we're worried about the roof above their heads, liam halligan gb news in salisbury. and you can read stone water housing association's full statement regarding this now on gb news online. >> now. prince harry spent around 45 minutes with king charles king charles at his madison, was diagnosed with cancen madison, was diagnosed with cancer. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .
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>> well. good afternoon, it's 4 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. >> today, our top story. uk. >> today, our top story . prince >> today, our top story. prince harry has spent 45 minutes with king charles after his majesty was diagnosed with cancer. the prodigal son has landed. but was he welcomed? meanwhile, the king has left buckingham palace and is believed to be travelling by helicopter to sandringham and liz truss is back in the public eye today. the former prime minister has criticised rishi sunak's government for failing to take on what she's called left wing extremists . but is left wing extremists. but is this just yet another plot to sink? sunak and there's the latest from the united states as donald trump challenges joe biden to a dramatic tv debate. and that's all coming in your next hour . thanks for and that's all coming in your
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next hour. thanks forjoining me on the show, as usual. i'd love to hear from you. vaiews@gbnews.com. please send in your gets well and best wishes messages to king charles. we'll read out a selection of those throughout the show. we've got hundreds of them sent in already. very touching. thank you very much. we'll be sure to pass them on. but before that, it's for your latest news it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines polly middlehurst i >> -- >> martin, thank you. and good afternoon to you. well, let's first bring you the latest developments on our top story this afternoon . in the last few this afternoon. in the last few minutes, the royal helicopter has been seen leaving buckingham palace in london. if you're watching on television , you can watching on television, you can see those latest images. now it's understood king charles and queen camilla on board. that aircraft on their way to norfolk, to the sandringham estate. it's also been reported prince harry left clarence house shortly before his father left in that helicopter, having spent
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around 45 minutes with his father. we can also now confirm prince william has no plans. we're told to meet his brother whilst harry is in the uk today. now we also understand the king reportedly told his sons himself about his diagnosis before buckingham palace made the announcement last evening. pal us officials are hoping the news encourages others who are affected by cancer. meanwhile members of the public have been sharing their best wishes for the king with gb news, but that it was already in hospital and he'd had the obviously the enlarged prostate. >> and i understand from reading the news this morning, it's not the news this morning, it's not the prostate that it's worried about. it's another form of cancen about. it's another form of cancer. um, but the fact that it's been caught mega early, you know, hopefully he should be fine. fingers crossed. >> it's sad. it's >> i just think it's sad. it's the same as any family. if someone gets that sort of news, obviously it's going to be devastating . and, uh, but devastating. and, uh, but i suppose he's handling it pretty well at first. >> it's so sad really, with the
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loss of the queen not too long ago. now he's having cancer. yeah, yeah. it's a sad time . yeah, yeah. it's a sad time. >> well, in the united states, a court has ruled that donald trump is not immune to charges that he plotted to overturn the 2020 election. varne that means the former president is now one step closer to a criminal trial, a move that would be unprecedented in american political history. his lawyers had argued that former presidents can't be prosecuted for official actions, but a panel of judges has now disagreed. mr trump is likely to appeal. disagreed. mr trump is likely to appeal . it's disagreed. mr trump is likely to appeal. it's thought, if he were to win the next election, he could then seek to pardon himself . could then seek to pardon himself. back here in the uk, a £20,000 reward is still being offered for anyone with any information on the whereabouts of a man wanted in connection with a chemical attack in south london to come forward, abdul azizi is suspected of attacking a woman and her children with a
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corrosive substance, leaving her with potentially life changing injuries . police are warning injuries. police are warning that anyone found to be assisting the suspect will face arrest themselves . azadi was arrest themselves. azadi was last seen leaving tower hill tube station just after 930 last wednesday evening. after going into a local shop, he now the former prime minister, liz truss, says democracy has become unpopular. she was unveiling a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas. the popular conservatives movement , or conservatives movement, or popcon, as it's known for short , popcon, as it's known for short, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the liberal democrat has accused some of those present today of economic vandalism . mrs. truss says she vandalism. mrs. truss says she believes the fight for conservatism is not going to be easy. left have been on the march . they've been on the march march. they've been on the march in our institute, they've been on the march in our corporate world, they're on the march globally , they are actively
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globally, they are actively organising . but i believe this organising. but i believe this fight is important because i believe it's only through conservative values that we will give the people of britain what they want . liz truss, now a 46 they want. liz truss, now a 46 year old man, has been arrested on suspicion of malcolm's malicious communications following reports of an abusive and threatening phone call to a conservative mps office. mike freer announced his decision to quit politics last week, telling gp news that he fears for his safety . the justice minister has safety. the justice minister has been the target of several death threats and an arson attack on his london constituency office. international news and houthi militants in yemen say they fired two ships in the red sea, damaging both vessels. it's understood a british cargo ship was one of the vessels involved after it was hit by missiles around 60 miles off the coast of yemen . the houthis, who are yemen. the houthis, who are backed by iran , say the attacks
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backed by iran, say the attacks will escalate if israel's activities in gaza don't stop. >> this is the moment labour has accused downing street of leaving the financial crisis in local councils for the next government to deal with. >> clive betts , who's the labour >> clive betts, who's the labour chairman of the levelling up committee, is warning that people could face council tax rises to help plug funding gaps. that's after more than a decade of warnings over financial pressures on councils , which pressures on councils, which have put vital services under severe strain . the social media severe strain. the social media company meta is starting to label images that have been created using ai, artificial intelligence . it means that any intelligence. it means that any images posted to facebook, instagram or even threads that were created using ai will automatically be flagged, the company saying it's currently building the new tool and it will be rolled out in the coming months. meta adds it will reduce the ability of bad actors to distribute deceitful content for the latest stories , do sign up
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the latest stories, do sign up for gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now. if you're watching on tv or go to gb news. common alerts . to gb news. common alerts. >> thank you polly. now we start with the latest on king charles. after the shock news that he has cancen after the shock news that he has cancer, his majesty has been seen leaving buckingham palace by helicopter to go to sandringham a day after his treatment began for that cancer. earlier the king and queen were seen leaving clarence house, heading to the palace and this comes after prince harry met his father after his cancer diagnosis. well, let's cross straight now to buckingham palace and speak to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker. cameron it's all happening. no sooner as prince harry landed and the king has taken off in his helicopter. >> yeah, martin, it's been an incredibly busy afternoon here incredibly busy afternoon here
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in london. around lunchtime today, prince harry landed at heathrow airport and was taken to the vip uh, windsor suite . he to the vip uh, windsor suite. he was then taken into a black suv and two black suvs and two police cars escorted him into central london. and at 2:42 pm, he arrived and was pictured arriving at clarence house. it's thought he spent around 45 minutes with his majesty the king, so it was a relatively short, um , meeting considering short, um, meeting considering the journey he's been on from los angeles to actually be here in london. but it also suggests there's no need for any immediate fear following king charles's cancer diagnosis. um, the king and queen. then shortly after prince harry leaving clarence house, left themselves and drove past where all the media are here to buckingham palace. and they were smiling and waving to the crowds and the cameras. king charles looked pretty well , actually. this is pretty well, actually. this is the first time we have seen him since that public cancer diagnosis. and then the pair of them took off in a helicopter
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which had been parked at the back of buckingham palace. it's thought they are going to sandringham . the king, of sandringham. the king, of course, receives treatment for that cancer diagnosis. yesterday in london. and it's thought they're going back to sandringham just for a bit of private rest and recuperation . private rest and recuperation. i've been in the last hour i've been told in the last hour as well prince william, as well that prince william, prince brother, has prince harry's brother, has no plans meet his brother while plans to meet his brother while he is in the uk, which suggests to me that their relationship is still perhaps not on the best of terms . so what now for prince terms. so what now for prince harry? it seems like a pretty long way. a 14 hour flight or 12 hour flight from los angeles for 45 minute meeting with your father. we also don't know where he's going to be staying. he doesn't have use of frogmore cottage anymore. evicted cottage anymore. he was evicted from following the from that following the publication his memoir , publication of his memoir, spare, and we don't have any details of where he is going to be staying. but of course there are several rooms in royal residences. but has had an residences. but has he had an official invitation from the royal nothing has royal household? nothing has been confirmed. >> walker, thanks
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>> okay, cameron walker, thanks for live from for that update. live from buckingham palace. king seems to be on the man though. let's speak now to the royal commentator robert jobson. robert is also the author, of course, of the book our king charles the third, the man and the monarch revealed, and a splendid book it is. thanks for joining us, robert. um, the big question is this, um, the king seems to be on the mend. prince harry flew in the king has flown out. and now william has announced no plans to meet the prodigal son. if there were any hopes of a royal reunion. seems to have been dashed. >> yeah. i didn't expect it to be a royal reunion with william, but, um. yeah. 45 minutes with the king. i think that's okay. the reality is they haven't been on the on great terms . uh, it's on the on great terms. uh, it's an opportunity for them to build an opportunity for them to build a few bridges for a father and a son to say, have a hug, and then that's great. if harry wanted to do that and come over, we can all understand why he did it. i should imagine the king probably didn't want fuss, of didn't want any fuss, because of
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course, will be course, all of us will be talking about this meeting and making something about making it into something about reconciliation, so really, reconciliation, etc. so really, probably in the king's mind, he'd probably prefer it if harry had stayed in la after the telephone call. but you know, it's quite a lot for a to son do. it's a long way away, and he probably just wanted to come and see his dad and speak to him face to face. >> fascinating in face to face. >> book fascinating in face to face. >> book tonscinating in face to face. >> book to charlesg in face to face. >> book to charles as in face to face. >> book to charles as being your book to charles as being monarch has nothing to do with power. he believes his role is to and yet so soon after to lead, and yet so soon after the coronation, so soon after taking power, after a dutiful lifetime in waiting , already it lifetime in waiting, already it seems that we may be looking ahead to william stepping up back on duty, of course. yesterday they . yesterday they. >> yeah, i mean this the moment we're jumping the gun a bit here. i mean, the reality is william will be on duty tomorrow. he's going to carry out an investiture, as did princess royal today. and then she went a series of she went into a series of engagements in the midlands, you
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know, terms of the know, monarchies in terms of the extended engagements is carried out other members the out by other members of the firm. constitutional duties firm. the constitutional duties will by the king. will be carried out by the king. um, going to carry on doing um, he's going to carry on doing that. he's going to be carrying on red boxes. he's on with the red boxes. he's going carrying meeting going to be carrying on meeting the minister. you the prime minister. so, you know, that's not going to change the prime minister. so, you kn all. that's not going to change the prime minister. so, you kn all. ands not going to change the prime minister. so, you kn all. and asot going to change the prime minister. so, you kn all. and as forjoing to change the prime minister. so, you kn all. and as for william,:hange at all. and as for william, william is always going to be, you would his you know, would be like his father did her majesty the father did for her majesty the late majesty the queen. he would step on step in if necessary, um, on constitutional so we'll step in if necessary, um, on consttotional so we'll step in if necessary, um, on constto waitl so we'll step in if necessary, um, on constto wait and so we'll step in if necessary, um, on constto wait and see so we'll step in if necessary, um, on constto wait and see howre'll step in if necessary, um, on constto wait and see how that have to wait and see how that develops. well, william is very young, you know, he's a 41 year old fit guy , and he'd be there old fit guy, and he'd be there to support the king as much as he needs. but abdications are not something really , um, not something that's really, um, going considered. and the going to be considered. and the king have to king will just hopefully have to pace himself when he makes a full recovery. >> indications seem >> but the indications seem good. he's able and well enough to travel back to the palace. he's able and well enough. the king to take a helicopter to sandringham. so for the moment, at any rate , robert, the at any rate, robert, the prognosis and the outlook seems
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to be good. >> well, absolute. he's trying to get on with the job at hand and, um, what what he will have to do. i think is probably slow down. i mean, i've been at dumfries house when he was carrying out duties and he was almost falling asleep as was almost falling asleep as he was standing. he worked so standing. he was he worked so hard. i think that he's going hard. so i think that he's going to to pace himself and be to have to pace himself and be supported other members supported by the other members of family. um, but in of the royal family. um, but in terms of his duties, i don't foresee a major foresee there being a major issue what he will be doing. i think at buckingham palace. i'm sorry, sandringham, sorry, at sandringham, when he goes he's resting goes there, he's resting a little bit. could be away little bit. he could be away from the humdrum of everybody asking questions and wanting asking him questions and wanting to person. and the to see the next person. and the busyness being a, of busyness of, of being a, of being the head of the nation ahead of, to be the head of state. and i think he'll get some moments of rest there more than likely, if i wouldn't be surprised if he, you know, just was there so that he could just read a book, do a bit of painting he stopped painting because he stopped painting, his painting, because he his watercolours, hasn't watercolours, because he hasn't got time. let's that
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got the time. let's hope that creativity back. and creativity can come back. and he can have of time to do can do have a bit of time to do some painting and relax. just a little bit, because it is very hard on himself and of course, robert, for prince harry, it's a long way to come from los angeles and back for 45 minute whistle stop tour and now i assume his thoughts will turn back to his day job making netflix documentaries . netflix documentaries. >> well , netflix documentaries. >> well, we'll have to wait and see. >> i think that, um, it's not that bad a flight. i've done it. but if you're in first class, it's even even better. so i'm sure he was only ever going to come in for a meet his dad. um, overnight and then fly back. i can't imagine it was. it was going to an extended stay. going to be an extended stay. >> robert jobson, thank going to be an extended stay. >> very robert jobson, thank going to be an extended stay. >> very much.t jobson, thank going to be an extended stay. >> very much. the son, thank going to be an extended stay. >> very much. the authorank going to be an extended stay. >> very much. the author of( going to be an extended stay. >> very much. the author of the you very much. the author of the book, our king charles the third, the man and monarch, third, the man and the monarch, reveal. much for reveal. thanks very much for joining gb news we, of joining us on gb news now we, of course, the people's channel. and we wanted get the and so we wanted to get the great british public's reaction to prince harry's return to the uk. we also gave them the uk. and we also gave them the chance to send their best wishes to king charles. >> i thought was
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>> well, i thought there was something not right with him because been the because he's been out of the limelight and, um, i think it's devastating. but i don't know how bad it is. so there's treatments, you know, out there for. but at the end of the day, maybe it's time that william stepped in and, you know, he had his rest , stepped in and, you know, he had his rest, what he stepped in and, you know, he had his rest , what he deserves. stepped in and, you know, he had his rest, what he deserves. he looked after the queen all them years. and, um, it's a shame, but unfortunately , big c's a but unfortunately, big c's a word, isn't it? and then there's thousands with it. the same. so i just wish him luck. it's good to have been in the position that he's in. >> he actually talk about it. >> he actually talk about it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> because obviously everyone knows who he is and it's finding out through someone so high up . out through someone so high up. >> it's like a good role model for things. >> well, he is his dad, you know. >> and you know , to me, you >> and you know, to me, you know, i think he has to come and see his dad, don't you? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> wonderful stuff. and you can send your best wishes to king
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charles on the gb news website. we'll make sure that we pass them along to the palace. and lots of you have already done that and got in touch. i'll read a few of those out now. amanda says this. sending you well wishes for a speedy recovery. hopefully you have a quick recovery and return to your normal self and duty soon. well amanda , that seems to be amanda, that seems to be happening. he's in a helicopter back sandringham, it seems back to sandringham, so it seems to very much on the mend. to be very much on the mend. marion adds this you're a wonderful monarch and your wife , wonderful monarch and your wife, queen camilla, or a credit to our country long live the king! katrina adds this heartfelt wishes to our king for a speedy recovery. god save the king and emilio adds this wishing the king a speedy and complete recovery. my partner and i were in london for his coronation long may he reign. wonderful messages and we'll make sure that we pass them all along to the palace. wonderful stuff . now
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be part of the audience and to put your questions to me. scan the qr code on screen or go to gbnews.com. see you there. >> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> 422 you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news later this hour. i'll tell you why. the political chaos of 2022, cost of taxpayer almost £1 million. now there's a bit of breaking news about abdul ezedithe bit of breaking news about abdul ezedi the suspect, of course, in the chemical attack. the last sighting of yazidi was at 10:04 last wednesday evening, when he passed the unilever building and headed towards victoria embankment. the previous last sighting was around 9:50 pm. on the southwark bridge , so that is the southwark bridge, so that is a clear 20 minutes later. the latest sighting , um, outside the latest sighting, um, outside the unilever building, um and heading towards victoria
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embankment . and that was . at embankment. and that was. at 10:04. so that's some 14 minutes later than the previous sighting and came out in the last hour on gb news. in 2017, azad's criminal record has come out. he groped a woman's backside, he exposed himself, he committed a sex act for that was placed on the sex offenders register for ten years. but of course only received suspended sentences . received suspended sentences. none of which prevented azadi from getting asylum . on his from getting asylum. on his third attempt, after he miraculously converted . to miraculously converted. to christianity, the plot thickens as the details emerge on abdul ezedi now moving on, liz truss, she's back the woman, who lasted just 44 days as prime minister, has launched a new movement today called the popular conservatives , and she's hit out conservatives, and she's hit out at rishi sunak's government for failing to take on what she called left wing extreme .
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called left wing extreme. maoists. well, a man who was there at that launch, our political editor christopher hope, is joining me now in the studio for the launch of the pop cons. chris, welcome back to the studio. you were there. you were in room. what was the mood? in the room. what was the mood? well the mood was different. >> thought it was more upbeat >> i thought it was more upbeat than expect for than you might expect for a party. points, 25 points party. 20 points, 25 points behind polls. um, it felt behind in the polls. um, it felt like was a part a group of like it was a part a group of people trying to um, uh , people trying to lobby. um, uh, a government that isn't part of their party ideas, when in their for party ideas, when in fact we have had a conservative party for the past 14 years. and it's me how it's interesting to me how little apparently do , little you apparently can do, even landslide majority even with a landslide majority from um, but think from 2019 on. um, but i think it's fascinating. you heard, uh, we from, um, jacob we heard from, um, jacob rees—mogg spoke about the age of davos. man is over. well, he wishes, but that's the idea. um, re—establishing links re—establishing the links between parliament and judges. try and bring judges back under more , more least accountable to more, more least accountable to people, as it may have been slightly when they were law lords, but not in the same lords, but not not in the same way. anderson, they're way. um, lee anderson, they're talking about no one cares about
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way. um, lee anderson, they're talk 28, about no one cares about way. um, lee anderson, they're talk28, noyut no one cares about way. um, lee anderson, they're talk28, no oneo one cares about way. um, lee anderson, they're talk28, no one chasedares about way. um, lee anderson, they're talk28, no one chased me about way. um, lee anderson, they're talk28, no one chased me down! cop 28, no one chased me down the in ashfield, the street in ashfield, demanding know why we're not demanding to know why we're not cutting carbon i cutting carbon emissions. i mean, we at mean, saying things which we at gb think, well, that gb news might think, well, that sounds credible. sounds quite, quite credible. uh, liz truss was the main speaken uh, liz truss was the main speaker, and she spoke speaker, and she also spoke about , uh, speaker, and she also spoke about, uh, her speaker, and she also spoke about , uh, her colleagues, other about, uh, her colleagues, other mps being happy to have, um , to mps being happy to have, um, to be to do deals with the left, triangulate around the left and trying to give them ourselves a nice life with north london dinner parties. she also had a few things to say about wokery. here's told me earlier, here's what she told me earlier, before spoke. before she spoke. >> problems we as >> the problems we have, as though got a conservative though we've got a conservative government. what seeing government. what we're seeing in our our universities our schools, in our universities , in our corporate sector is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas. spreading of wokery of left wing ideas . and what popcon about is ideas. and what popcon about is aboutis ideas. and what popcon about is about is about combating that because the people of britain want us to deal with the real issues . immigration want us to deal with the real issues. immigration is too high, the government's too big, taxes are too high. but what we constantly hear is the left . so constantly hear is the left. so popcon is about challenging that. it's about challenging the
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left wing orthodoxy would would. >> okay, chris. well, i'll be joined by mark littlewood in about an hour's time. he's the guy who's heading up this and i'll ask him this, but i'll ask you now, what's next for this? i mean, it seems they're making a lot of the right noises, but have this before? have we heard all this before? >> well, the hard thing is momentum. um, they they put momentum. um, they they will put a with ideas they want a book out with ideas they want to into, to the tory to feed into, to the tory manifesto preparation, which we imagine underway about manifesto preparation, which we imagin case underway about manifesto preparation, which we imagin case they underway about manifesto preparation, which we imagin case they go derway about manifesto preparation, which we imagin case they go earlier about manifesto preparation, which we imagin case they go earlier thant now in case they go earlier than than this year. as pm than later this year. as the pm has said, next isn't has said, what's next isn't really is a grassroots really clear is a grassroots campaign. they're talking to pcs, parliament, private um candidates . pcs, parliament, private um candidates. um, for me , it feels candidates. um, for me, it feels a debate that we had after they lose the election. so i can't quite see where it goes next. they're going to be putting out reports and that kind of thing, trying to reshape pull the tory party at the top, back to the right, big elephant in room right, big elephant in the room not mentioned. there was not been mentioned. there was immigration talked about immigration wasn't talked about really on net migration or illegal migration. it was touched on but not really talked about. central this
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about. it's not central to this group. and think that is group. and i think that is central who are central for many people who are annoyed about tory party, central for many people who are annjust about tory party, central for many people who are annjust quitet tory party, central for many people who are annjust quite finallyyry party, central for many people who are annjust quite finally in party, central for many people who are annjust quite finally in the :y, but just quite finally in the audience the room audience looking around the room , i was really impressed by who was terms of money, was there in terms of money, men, organisers, ashcroft, men, organisers, lord ashcroft, nick party donor nick candy, big tory party donor andrew former treasurer , andrew reid, former treasurer, uh, to the tory party. david cantini, serious strategist for the past three decades in the tory party the people in the room have money, have wealth. can run an operation. so they should not be dismissed. and there's a big donors lunch straight after. so i do think that it's going to go. the question is i'm not sure what is next just yet. i'm not sure. they're not sure. they're sure ehhen >> e“- t— t ask them in about >> well, we'll ask them in about an hour's time. elephants in the room, in the room. nigel room, money in the room. nigel farage also in that room farage was also in that room chris hope. superb stuff and let's more former let's get more now with former labour journalist labour adviser and journalist mike buckley. mike, welcome to the show . so another day , the show. so another day, another family for the conservative party. this lot got more families than corey. >> well, they seem to be splits
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on splits, on splits in the conservative party. >> i mean, it's the kind of thing you used to find on the left of the labour party with all these different factions popping up all these different factions popping up with similar popping up with very similar sounding names moveable sounding names and moveable feast uh, you feast of different, uh, you know, different personalities, feast of different, uh, you kno kind fferent personalities, feast of different, uh, you kno kindfferthingzrsonalities, feast of different, uh, you kno kindfferthing the 1alities, the kind of thing the conservative never did. conservative party never did. and you know, they and they, you know, they certainly publicly you certainly publicly would, you know, this very know, tend to have this very unified front they'd have unified front and they'd have their arguments and their fights in private . of all that in private. of course, all that discipline gone , partly under discipline is gone, partly under johnson, under truss. >> and now and now under sunak. >> and now and now under sunak. >> now presenting >> so they're now presenting lots different faces to lots of different faces to the public. think large part public. i think in large part this about today wasn't about this is about today wasn't about the next election today was about happened to the about what happened to the conservative when the conservative party when the conservatives, you know, almost inevitably lose coming inevitably lose the coming election. and this is about truss and her cohort positioning to over the party, possibly to take over the party, possibly with nigel farage waiting in the wings, so wanting to shift the conservative even conservative party in an even more right wing direction, which of we all know would be of course we all know would be in know, almost in the end, you know, almost certainly unelectable because in the end, you know, almost certcountryielectable because in the end, you know, almost certcountry justtable because in the end, you know, almost certcountry just isn't because in the end, you know, almost certcountry just isn't like ause our country just isn't like that, know, we're not a tiny
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that, you know, we're not a tiny small state, you know, we want to in the us and leave the to live in the us and leave the poor to themselves and have no pubuc poor to themselves and have no public services country all. public services country at all. you we're much you know, we're much more of a european country people do european country where people do want public services to work and are to pay, know, are willing to pay, you know, a reasonable amount of tax to facilitate that's reasonable amount of tax to facilof te that's reasonable amount of tax to facilof the that's reasonable amount of tax to facilof the things that's reasonable amount of tax to facilof the things public is one of the things the public is so about at the moment, so angry about at the moment, the fact that they've been paying the fact that they've been paying tax, you know, is the highest years for highest rate for 80 years for pubuc highest rate for 80 years for public course, are public services, of course, are completely their knees and completely on their knees and the government's doing nothing completely on their knees and the goit.'nment's doing nothing completely on their knees and the goit. iment's doing nothing completely on their knees and the goit. i mean, doing nothing completely on their knees and the goit. i mean, even; nothing completely on their knees and the goit. i mean, even yesterday about it. i mean, even yesterday rishi for not rishi sunak said sorry for not bringing down, but bringing waiting list down, but also appear say that also didn't appear to say that he going to even to he was going to even attempt to do which is which is staggering. >> but mike, say that we >> but mike, you say that we want to be more like europe yet look the revolution that is look at the revolution that is going on europe. we're going on across europe. we're seeing to the populist seeing swings to the populist parties netherlands, in parties in the netherlands, in sweden, france, italy , in sweden, in france, in italy, in germany, course , in germany, and of course, in america with donald trump. so is it really fair to say that we want to be more like europe when the europeans themselves are vote in the political orthodoxy ? vote in the political orthodoxy? >> i mean, i think there's an
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extent to which that is overstated. and it is also the case that when supposedly right wing parties win elections, i mean, giorgia meloni in italy is a very example. she may a very good example. she may have campaigned as a far right winger, but governing as winger, but she's governing as fairly centrist fairly a fairly centrist right winger wants hold winger because she wants to hold her government she her government together and she wants the economy wants to hold the economy together and she wants to be part mainstream. part of the european mainstream. so agree the rise of the so while i agree the rise of the far right in europe is a concern, i think it's less of a concern, i think it's less of a concern is sometimes put concern than is sometimes put out by hyperventilating journalists. >> but what meant was more >> but what i meant was more that the uk public, they want their public to work, their public services to work, they want particularly the nhs, to also also education. >> you know, council >> you know, also council services that services and the fact that at the moment much nothing the moment pretty much nothing is this country. and the moment pretty much nothing is got this country. and the moment pretty much nothing is got a this country. and the moment pretty much nothing is got a governmenty. and the moment pretty much nothing is got a government thatd the moment pretty much nothing is got a government that is we've got a government that is obsessed inward migration obsessed with inward migration more obsessed with more than it's obsessed with getting nhs and education, getting the nhs and education, etc. and transport working. um, i think that's one of the main things probably in the things that's probably in the pubuc things that's probably in the public the public of combined with the irony of today, is fact irony of today, is the fact that liz truss arguably than liz truss did more arguably than any conservative any other conservative politician ruin their politician to ruin their reputation. i mean, she single handedly reputation handedly ruined their reputation
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for economic competence once that's gone, it's gone. and there's no chance of them getting it back. and rishi sunak could possibly have got it back. but way that he's governed but the way that he's governed over the last 18 months or so, he obviously hasn't that, he obviously hasn't done that, partly is in partly because the economy is in such state, plus public such a state, plus public services, hasn't services, but he just hasn't convinced that he's convinced the public that he's got what it takes to move on. so today truss her today was about truss and her cohort saying we want to have control of conservative party. after we're after the next election. we're the ideas. suspect the people with ideas. i suspect she's wrong. >> okay, all to play for. thanks for on show. mike forjoining us on the show. mike buckley, and former buckley, journalist and former labour adviser . and there's labour adviser. and there's lots more come between now more still to come between now and now, the latest from and 5:00. now, the latest from the as we just the united states, as we just discussed donald is discussed, where donald trump is already acting like he's the president . but first, your president. but first, your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> the top stories this hour within the last hour, the king has left london bound for norfolk. the royal helicopter has left buckingham palace about
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45 minutes ago. it is understood the king and queen are both on board and they're on their way to the royal estate at sandringham . it's been reported sandringham. it's been reported prince harry left clarence house shortly before his father left on this helicopter tour. we understand he spent around 45 minutes talking with his father , minutes talking with his father, having flown from la. we can also confirm within the last hour that prince william has said he has no plans to meet his brother while harry is in the uk . the king reportedly told his sons personally about his cancer diagnosis before buckingham palace officials made the announcement last evening. palace officials hope the news will encourage others who are affected by the illness . affected by the illness. meanwhile, members of the public have been sharing their best wishes for the king with . gb wishes for the king with. gb news. now, the most recent sighting of a chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi was just after 10:00 on a wednesday evening , according to new evening, according to new
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information . the met police information. the met police saying he passed the unit lever headquarters and was seen heading towards victoria embankment on in east london. a £20,000 reward is still being offered for anyone one to come forward with information on his whereabouts. he suspected of attacking a woman with a corrosive substance , leaving her corrosive substance, leaving her with potentially life changing injuries. police are warning anyone who has helped him will also themselves face arrest . and also themselves face arrest. and as you've been hearing, liz truss says democracy has become unpopular . truss says democracy has become unpopular. she was unveiling a new conservative group today aimed at boosting conservative ideas. the popular conservatives, as they're known, or popcorn , aims to take on what or popcorn, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the liberal democrats accused some of those present today of economic vandalism , and within economic vandalism, and within the last hour we have learned that a court in the united states has ruled that donald trump is not immune to charges that he plotted to overturn the 2020 election. it means that the
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former president is now one step closer to a criminal trial, a move that would be unrwa precedented in american political history. his lawyers had argued that former presidents can't be prosecuted for their official actions , but for their official actions, but a panel of judges disagreed . mr a panel of judges disagreed. mr trump is likely to appeal, and if he were to win, he could seek to pardon himself . those are the to pardon himself. those are the top stories for gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or , if you're listening on or, if you're listening on radio, go to gb news .com/ alerts . alerts. >> thank you polly, now uniformed officers refused to arrest the man suspected of a stabbing in london is how police force completely and utterly broken. that's next. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .
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of job that i maybe not love and have to then do it till i'm 71 years old, i would be very distressed about this. >> you're listening to gb news radio 2024, a battleground year. >> the year the nation decides as the parties up their as the parties gear up their campaign the next general campaign for the next general election, be left election, who will be left standing the british people standing when the british people make biggest make one of the biggest decisions of their lives? >> who will rise and will >> who will rise and who will fall? >> fl @ out together for >> let's find out together for every moment. >> the highs, the lows, the twists and turns we'll be with you for every step of this journey in 2024. gb news is britain's election . channel. britain's election. channel. >> welcome back. it's 438. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now later on the show i'll be joined by a cancer expert, professor karol sikora , to get his karol sikora, to get his insights into king charles's diagnosis . yesterday, former diagnosis. yesterday, former metropolitan police detective peter bleksley told me a truly
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shocking story that sums up the lawlessness on british streets . lawlessness on british streets. a man accused of stabbing a restaurant worker in london was detained by two employees of a firm called my local bobby wolfer, a private security service. the suspect was then taken to two uniformed police officers who simply refused to arrest the man, who just stabbed not only the person in the restaurant, but the man who attempted to detain him. and that story simply amaze me. and it appalled me , and i wanted to it appalled me, and i wanted to find out more about these services. so to that end , i'm services. so to that end, i'm now joined by david mckelvey, who's the co—founder of my local bobby and a former detective chief inspector in the met. thanks for joining chief inspector in the met. thanks forjoining us on the thanks for joining us on the show, david. and i just i just want to get you on today to say thank you for your work, but can you explain to us what my local bobby is? >> my local bobby is about putting , uh, community policemen putting, uh, community policemen or or bobbies back on the street. >> we call them bobbies. they do
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the job that , you know, used to the job that, you know, used to be done. many, many years ago by the community police officers as, uh, patrolling their beats and making sure that they're communities are safe. we eliminate the fear of crime, uh, and make people feel safer. >> and david, you're stepping in, presumably because there's a shortfall or a lack of quality of the service on the ground. so what kind of things are people telling you and what kind of people are hiring you? >> um, well , people are hiring you? >> um, well, we work, uh, we people are hiring you? >> um, well , we work, uh, we got >> um, well, we work, uh, we got two distinct types of beats. we have residential beats where you have residential beats where you have people in residential areas who clubbed together for who clubbed together and pay for our services, and they'll have a marked car with a bobby patrolling their streets who can respond within, usually within two minutes. uh to anything that goes any incidents. and goes on, uh, any incidents. and then we have business beats. uh, usually we're employed by business improvement districts to deal with retail crime and to keep those communities safe. so we everything we we deal with everything we operate windows policy operate a broken windows policy whereby deal with everything whereby we deal with everything from littering, graffiti ,
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from littering, graffiti, absolutely everything to make a place feel safer. and if that also means that we have to arrest and detain shoplifters, pickpockets . or in this case, pickpockets. or in this case, um, far more serious offences, we will do so. and we also prosecute in the criminal courts i >> -- >> and david, it's fantastic that you provide this service, but it's also tragic that you even have to provide this service. it's clearly a shortfall in the police force allocation. now. now, as a former detective chief inspector in the met, you don't want to have a pop at the police. but this is about a lack of resource and a lack of credibility and a lack of priority. isn't it? >> it's sadly , um, things have >> it's sadly, um, things have gone awry and we don't see the numbers of police officers on the streets , um, that we used to the streets, um, that we used to . i know the numbers are quite considerable now, but you just don't, you know , those those don't, you know, those those numbers aren't being seen on the streets. they're not being reflected in officers patrolling and that's there's a number of reasons for that. martin you know, got other know, they've got other resources implications and resources, implications and issues going on, protests and
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all sorts of things. and what we i wish we didn't have to exist, but we step in where they've left a gap. and we do that that work, that sort of level low level work dealing with the community type policing . community type policing. >> and david, can i ask you as well as the horrific story of the bleksley told us of the peter bleksley told us of a man who stabbed two people, still wasn't nicked. what are the appalling things still wasn't nicked. what are the you appalling things still wasn't nicked. what are the you seeing palling things still wasn't nicked. what are the you seeing on ling things still wasn't nicked. what are the you seeing on the things still wasn't nicked. what are the you seeing on the streets ? are you seeing on the streets? >> um, i mean, we do see that type of thing on a regular basis. um, shoplifting is another major area of concern. um, we tend now we get called probably , i'll say probably nine probably, i'll say probably nine times out of ten, we're called to in the areas we police, we get called by the businesses. they don't tend to call the police anymore. but we will police anymore. uh, but we will deal with those shoplifters from beginning end. so we will beginning to end. so we will detain them. we'll get their details, we'll gather the evidence. will prosecute evidence. we will then prosecute in the criminal courts, and we will them. will convict them. >> does it make you feel sad on a basis? obviously, a personal basis? obviously, you've a great business you've got a great business model . um, you've got a great business model. um, you're performing a vital service . this also
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vital service. this also make you sad. david that there you feel sad. david that there is this vacuum to fill. >> absolutely . i wish we >> i absolutely. i wish we didn't have to do this and hopefully touch wood. one day we won't have to do this. you know, there will there will be a change in the, uh , in the way change in the, uh, in the way police operate and we'll see bobbies back on the street, police officers back on the street the job that we're street doing the job that we're doing. the meantime, doing. well in the meantime, david mckelvey fantastic initiative. >> god's speed to you. keep up the good work. the co—founder of my local bobby. and of course, a former detective chief inspector in the met. this guy knows the onions and he's out there getting justice. top man, thank you thank you. now, you very much. thank you. now, the chaos that saw the saw the uk have three prime ministers in just a couple months in 2022. just a couple of months in 2022. cost the taxpayer almost £1 million in payouts to ministers is astonishing. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel
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>> now, next monday, prime minister rishi sunak will appear in a special show on gb news. he'll be answering questions from you. the great british public. from you. the great british pubuc.the from you. the great british public. the only people who really matter. and you could be in that audience. simply scan the qr code. you can see right now on your screen or go to gbnews.com forward slash pm gb news people's forum. the prime minister will be live on at 8:00 next monday evening only on gb news. get involved now it is 447 and who can forget the drama of the summer and the autumn of 2022, when we had three prime ministers in a matter of months, you could even count the time that some of them, some of those ministers, were in their cabinet roles in hours rather than days in fact, one of them lasted less time than a lettuce. but rules that see mps got a severance payouts when they leave office
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cost the taxpayer almost £1 million. hard to believe , but it million. hard to believe, but it happened, and i'm joined now by our political correspondent, olivia utley. olivia £1 million just thrown away in a matter of months. who got what? >> well, i mean, it was a pretty unusual year, obviously , we had unusual year, obviously, we had the reigns of boris johnson, followed by liz truss, followed by rishi sunak. >> michelle donelan, who was only in office for one day as education secretary received a payout. >> she did hand that money over to charity , but also chris to charity, but also chris pincher and peter bone, both of whom resigned under a cloud to put it mildly. >> both received payments of 7000. >> just over £7,000 and just over £5,000 respectively. basically the rules as they stand, which were drawn up by john major in 1991, stipulate that any minister who resigns or is sacked gets a payout of three months of their ministerial pay upon on leaving office. >> well, in a year like last
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yean >> well, in a year like last year, those numbers really, really add up. >> when we're going through churning through ministers, then that leads to a huge amount of money being paid out to the taxpayer. >> now labour, why this is on the news today is because labour have said that they want to reform it, and under their rules, ministers who resign because of allegations of misconduct wouldn't get a payout. >> anyone who returns to office after less than three months off the frontbench would have to pay back the money that they're given, and anyone who has served for less than three months in office. >> so liz truss or michelle donelan last year wouldn't be eligible either. now that's what they've said. >> they want to do when they're in office today. >> they are going to force a vote on it in what's called an opposition day debate in parliament. the government will vote against it because they always opposition always do on these opposition day it's brought day debates. but it's brought the into the spotlight, the issue into the spotlight, and we're talking about and now we're all talking about that astonishing million that really astonishing million pounds paid out to pounds that was paid out to ministers year. ministers last year. >> olivia, seems >> well, olivia, it seems eminently . brandon eminently sensible. brandon lewis, the fella got two
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payments, 33.5 grand in four months on top of his salary, more than the average living wage in britain. i think it's actually quite a good idea. olivia thank you very olivia utley, thank you very much joining us on that. now much for joining us on that. now to america, because in the past hour us court has ruled hour or so, a us court has ruled that donald is not immune that donald trump is not immune to charges that he plotted to overturn the 2020 election. it means the former president is now one step closer to a criminal trial, a move that would be unprecedented in american political history . but american political history. but he's also thrown down the gauntlet to joe biden by challenging him to a live tv debate , which biden has perhaps debate, which biden has perhaps sensibly dismissed . trump's also sensibly dismissed. trump's also urged republicans to reject a $118 billion deal, which links tougher immigration laws with aid for ukraine and israel . aid for ukraine and israel. loads going on the over the pond there. and joining me now to discuss this is the chair of the republicans overseas, greg swenson . greg, it's all kicking swenson. greg, it's all kicking off now november. it's going to
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be the greatest political show on earth yet . more drama. on earth yet. more drama. another court case. the big question is, will any of it stick or have any impact on trump ? trump? >> well, that's two different questions. well, some of it stick probably. you've got 91 indictments plus all these civil cases. so it's pretty clear that the democrats and biden want to prosecute their opponents. it's not a good look. it might work in terms of getting a conviction . and that might affect some some voters, maybe even republican voters . but then republican voters. but then again, with what's happened since the first indictment, last last april with alvin bragg, trump's numbers go up with these indictments . the american voters indictments. the american voters don't like to see political opponents potentially jailing their own opponents. so, you know, this is this is not a good moment. and if anything, it helps president trump and greg, the bill the bipartisan bill that the democrats are trying to get through to at the moment, talk us through that. >> um, there are trying
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basically to do something about the terrible, terrible situation on the texan border. immigration illegal immigration, becoming a huge issue. they're throwing $20 billion at that. but trump is trying to get the republicans to block it . what's the reasoning block it. what's the reasoning behind that ? behind that? >> well, yeah, there's it's a little bit confusing, martin. >> and i don't blame the president to block president for trying to block it. might be doing it it. now, he might be doing it for political reasons . he wants for political reasons. he wants to this issue as an to keep this issue as an outstanding problem for the democrats. so that's maybe politically . but if you just politically. but if you just ignore president trump for a minute on the merits, this proposal would really undermine on the existing laws which presumes that illegal migrants should be apprehended , detained should be apprehended, detained and deported, that that's existing law right now. so this is just like a charade almost, that the democrats have all of a sudden decided that, you know, this is an issue because biden is polling at 18. martin 18 and they know that's going to be really difficult for them to face elections in november with
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with the humanitarian crisis at the border. so they crafted this proposal . i the border. so they crafted this proposal. i don't think there's a lot of legs to it. i mean, there is some good in it, but all what they're trying to do, which is in, you know, which which is in, you know, which which stop the humanitarian which is stop the humanitarian crisis already crisis can already be accomplished the current accomplished with the current law. so and the second problem with is all these little with it is all these little algorithms that have , you algorithms that they have, you know, going to shut the know, we're going to shut the border when, when the daily border down when, when the daily headcount reaches 5000, that's 5000 a day. that's the equivalent of 1.8 million a yean equivalent of 1.8 million a year, which is about what we're doing anyway. so that that would assume that biden would actually enforce that law when it's triggered. but but to date , he's triggered. but but to date, he's really, you know, he picks and chooses the laws that he likes, the laws that he wants to enforce, and the ones that he doesn't. so i'm not confident that this this would change, change it might be change anything. it might be politically good for the republicans it just to get republicans to do it just to get the ukraine funding done . and the ukraine funding done. and also maybe an appearance also have maybe an appearance that that they're trying to cooperate with the left . but in
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cooperate with the left. but in itself this this proposal should be dead on arrival because it doesn't do anything . and in doesn't do anything. and in fact, it makes things worse. >> and greg, very quickly, if we could trump's thrown down the gauntlet for a tv debates. biden's turned it down. is that because you think trump would make him? make mincemeat of him? >> no doubt about >> well, there's no doubt about that. mean, and it's not just that. i mean, and it's not just president i think anybody president trump. i think anybody that functioning could, that that's functioning could, could take down president biden in debate . it kind of funny in a debate. it is kind of funny coming president who coming from president trump, who refused ron desantis refused to debate ron desantis and the other candidates. so it is kind of funny that that now he's saying that we should have a debate. but you know, the point is, even just ignoring the history and what he did in 2023 by refusing to debate, just ignore that for a second to elect a president that chooses not to debate is greg, we're going to have to leave it there, i'm afraid. >> i'm so sorry. okay. after this, we have all the latest on king charles and also prince harry in the uk. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's
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news channel . news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar solar. sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello, i'm alex deakin. welcome along to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. some snow in the forecast tonight across parts of northern scotland. further south it's rain. we're contending with this weather front or set of weather fronts is slipping southwards, bringing the outbreaks of rain, but also introduced colder air and very windy and at times wintry in shetland , the strong winds shetland, the strong winds easing over northern scotland . easing over northern scotland. but another band of sleet and snow comes in through the night could turn icy as well. so we do have a met office yellow warning in place. could easily be a covering of snow, even at lower levels. south will levels. further south it will be rain that slips its way steadily across southern england and south keeping south wales, keeping things above but from above freezing here. but from northern northwards, above freezing here. but from northeextensive northwards, above freezing here. but from northe extensive frost. hwards, above freezing here. but from northeextensive frost. hence. pretty extensive frost. hence why could icy as we see
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gb news. >> good afternoon. it's 5 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk . westminster all across the uk. coming up, the king has arrived in sandringham after leaving buckingham palace by helicopter. a day after his cancer diagnosis , and it followed a 45 minute meeting with prince harry at clarence house, duke of sussex , clarence house, duke of sussex, had arrived in the uk earlier today from los angeles and liz truss is back in the public eye today. the former prime minister has criticised rishi sunak's government for failing to take on what she's called left wing extremists . is on what she's called left wing extremists. is this on what she's called left wing extremists . is this yet another extremists. is this yet another plot to sink sunak? we'll be joined by the man who's heading up the popcorns later in this houn up the popcorns later in this hour, and great bit of people power . are we speaking to the power. are we speaking to the campaign group which wants to clean up britain for good? they're taking the highways agency to court tomorrow and that's all coming up in your next hour . so, as usual, please
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next hour. so, as usual, please get in touch all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com throughout the show, i've been reading out a selection of your get well messages to his majesty. please send yours in and we'll make sure we pass them on and read them out. also, the pop cons movement. are you convinced? does the tory party really need another family or have they already got more families? the coronation street, that's all coming up after your latest news headunes coming up after your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> martin, thank you and good evening to you. well we can tell you now the king has arrived at the royal sandringham estate in norfolk, having left london in the last hour, a helicopter was seen taking off from buckingham palace and we believe has now landed, believing to be carrying the king and queen taking off, as i say from central london
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just a short time ago, and it's been reported prince harry left clarence house shortly before his father left on that trip , his father left on that trip, having spent around 45 minutes talking with his father . it's talking with his father. it's also been established today . also been established today. prince william has no plans, apparently to meet with his brother whilst harry is in the uk now. the king reportedly personally told both his sons about his cancer diagnosis before four buckingham palace officials made the announcement publicly last night. officials made the announcement publicly last night . palace publicly last night. palace officials hoped the king's openness about the news will help others, whose lives are affected by cancer . meanwhile, affected by cancer. meanwhile, members of the public up and down the country have been wishing the king well, but that he was already in hospital and he'd had the obviously the enlarged prostate. >> and i understand from reading the news this morning, it's not the news this morning, it's not the prostate that it's worried about. another of about. it's another form of cancen about. it's another form of cancer. but the fact that cancer. um, but the fact that it's been caught mega early , you it's been caught mega early, you know, hopefully he should be fine. fingers crossed. >> think it's sad. >> i just think it's sad.
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>> i just think it's sad. >> the as any family. >> it's the same as any family. if someone gets that sort of news, it's going to be news, obviously it's going to be devastating but devastating. and, uh, but i suppose he's handling it pretty well at first. >> so sad really, with the loss of the queen not too long ago now he's having cancer. yeah, yeah, it's a sad time . yeah, it's a sad time. >> well, in news from the united states, a court has ruled donald trump is not immune to charges that he plotted to overturn the 2020 election. that means the former president is now one step away from a criminal trial, a move which could be unpressed in american political history . move which could be unpressed in american political history. his lawyers had argued that former presidents can't be prosecuted for official actions, but a panel of judges has now disagreed , and mr trump is disagreed, and mr trump is likely to appeal if he were to win the next election , then he win the next election, then he could seek to pardon himself here at home. the most recent sighting of chemical attack suspect abdullah zaidi was just after 10:00 on wednesday. that's
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according to new, more precise info about his whereabouts. the metropolitan police have said today he passed the unilever headquarters and was last seen heading towards victoria in embankment, a £20,000 reward is still being offered for anyone with any information on his whereabouts. he is suspected of attacking a woman with a corrosive substance . leaving her corrosive substance. leaving her with potentially life changing injuries. police are warning that anyone found to be assisting the suspect will also face arrest themselves . politics face arrest themselves. politics and liz truss says democracy has become unpopular. she was unveiling a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas. the popular conservatives movement, or popcorn , aims to take on what or popcorn, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the liberal democrats accused some of those present today of economic vandals. um, but liz truss told gb news that she thinks left wing ideas have gone
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too far . a 46 thinks left wing ideas have gone too far. a 46 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of malicious communications following reports of . an abusive following reports of. an abusive and threatening phone call made to a conservative mps london office. mike freer announced his decision to quit politics last week, telling gb news that he feared for his safety. the justice minister has been the target of several death threats and an arson attack on his constituency . office houthi constituency. office houthi militants in yemen say they fired at two ships in the red sea, damaged both vessels. it's understood a british cargo ship was one of the vessels involved after it was hit by missiles around 60 miles off the coast of yemen. the houthis, who were backed by iran, say the attacks will escalate if israel's activities in gaza don't stop . activities in gaza don't stop. labour has accused downing street of leaving the financial crisis in local councils for the next government to sort out .
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next government to sort out. clive betts, who's the labour chairman of the levelling up committee, is warning that people could face council tax rises to help plug funding gaps. that's after more than a decade of warnings over financial pressures on councils, which have put vital services under severe strain , and the social severe strain, and the social media company meta is going to start labelling images that have been created using artificial intelligence. it means that any images posted to facebook, instagram or even threads that were created using ai will be automatically tagged. the company says it's currently building the new tool, and it will be rolled out in the coming months. meta. saying it will reduce the ability of so—called bad actors to distribute deceitful content . if you fancy deceitful content. if you fancy receiving the latest gb news story, sign up to our new alerts. scan the qr code on the screen right now , or go to screen right now, or go to gbnews.com slash alerts . thank
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gbnews.com slash alerts. thank you polly. >> now we start with the latest on king charles. after the shock news that he has cancer, his majesty has arrived at his sandringham estate by helicopter a day after his treatment began for that cancer. earlier, the king and queen were seen leaving clarence house, heading to buckingham palace. you can see them on screen there and this comes after prince harry met his father for around 45 minutes early today. following the king's cancer diagnosis. however, gb news can confirm that prince william has no plans to meet his brother while he is in the uk . and for an update on in the uk. and for an update on all of this, let's cross live now to buckingham palace and speak to gb news royal correspondent cameron walker . correspondent cameron walker. cameron cameron is not quite with us, but let's just talk about for a moment so what we know is that harry landed . he know is that harry landed. he went straight there. cameron walker, let's go to you. so, harry came and the king went
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rather quickly . rather quickly. >> yeah, exactly . martin. it was >> yeah, exactly. martin. it was a very busy afternoon here, as you said in the last hour or so, the king and queen have landed at sandringham. they took . off at sandringham. they took. off >> we lost them again. someone's pulled the plug. so just to update what happened there, prince harry came in. he landed from lax. he went straight to buckingham palace, saw the king for around 45 minutes. the king then got in his helicopter and went to sandringham. he he left the building, as it were, and the building, as it were, and the big news is that prince william, who, if you recall , william, who, if you recall, only returned to duty yesterday . only returned to duty yesterday. um, on the release from hospital of princess catherine returning to work , has said he does not to work, has said he does not want to meet prince harry. a dramatic development for those who hoped that the king's brush with mortality he may have forged a family reunion. it seems that is not on the agenda. i think we have cameron, third
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time lucky. do we? have you, cameron walker? yes we do. cameron walker? yes we do. cameron what's all the latest ? cameron what's all the latest? >> martin. apologies. as you said in the last hour or so , the said in the last hour or so, the king and queen have landed at sandringham in a helicopter. they took off from the buckingham palace garden a couple of hours ago. but it's been an incredibly busy afternoon here in central london around lunchtime today. prince harry, duke of sussex, landed at heathrow airport. he was swiftly taken to the vip windsor suite, where he got into a black suv escorted by two police cars and drove here to clarence house, which is where the king was staying. following his cancer treatment yesterday. inside a hospital. but he stayed at clarence house last night. he spent around 45 minutes with his majesty the king, which doesn't seem to be too long to be perfectly honest. bearing in mind prince harry has spent hours and hours on a plane from los angeles to london to spend time with the king. we were told
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yesterday that the king personally told harry, and indeed william, about his cancer diagnosis . indeed william, about his cancer diagnosis. but indeed william, about his cancer diagnosis . but following the diagnosis. but following the meeting , prince harry left meeting, prince harry left clarence house and very shortly after that the king and queen were seen driving to buckingham palace. they were smiling and waving to the crowds and indeed the cameras. here the king looked in fine actually, looked in fine form. actually, he pretty upbeat and in he seems pretty upbeat and in good spirits. and then, as i said, they took off in a helicopter shortly after the prince of wales, i'm told, has no plans to meet his brother, while prince harry is in the united kingdom . we know their united kingdom. we know their relationship has not been good. we've of course, had the publication of prince harry's memoir spare and the netflix documentary series , to name but documentary series, to name but a few incidents, which is perhaps annoyed the prince of wales somewhat. but what's next for harry? he's flown all the way over here for a 45 minute meeting with his father . we meeting with his father. we don't know where he's going to be staying . he no longer has use be staying. he no longer has use of frogmore cottage. he was
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kicked was evicted by kicked out. he was evicted by the crown estate following the publication controversial publication of his controversial memoir . so publication of his controversial memoir. so which royal publication of his controversial memoir . so which royal residence memoir. so which royal residence is he going to be staying in? and has had an official and has he had an official invitation from royal invitation from the royal family, custom in these family, which is custom in these situations ? situations? >> okay, cameron walker, it seems the prodigal son, prince harry has landed, but hasn't been that well received . thank been that well received. thank you that update from you for that update from buckingham palace. let's hear buckingham palace. so let's hear now an expert. we're now from an expert. we're crossing to professor karol sikora , who joins me now. he's sikora, who joins me now. he's an oncologist and the former head of the world health organisation's cancer program, professor sikora. thank you for joining us on the show. can i try and ask you about about the nature of the prognosis here? so initially, charles was admitted with an enlarged prostate and then it appears something else has turned up. is this quite normal when somebody goes to get screened? for one thing, something else will appear on the radar. >> yeah it does. >> yeah it does. >> and it's nothing to worry about. >> and it's nothing to worry about . we're not. we know he has about. we're not. we know he has
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cancer , so that's definite. cancer, so that's for definite. that would been confirmed that would have been confirmed at clinic by a at the london clinic by a biopsy. some things been sent to the lab. it takes usually a week. you can't speed it up. it requires special tests in the laboratory. the pathologist looks it and says, this is looks at it and says, this is cancen looks at it and says, this is cancer. we're not being told exactly where it's come from . exactly where it's come from. there was a hint that it's not from the prostate, but it must be from that area. and it was unexpected. so it's likely to be very early. my prediction is it's probably in the bladder and it's probably in the bladder and it's small tumour in the it's a small tumour in the bladder quite easily bladder that can be quite easily treated . that actually carries a treated. that actually carries a good outcome. so so, uh, for a man of 75, a young man in his prime like prince charles or like king charles, i think it's likely that he's got a good ten years to look at. even if it is a bladder cancer. obviously, the earlier we detect cancer, the lower the stage of the disease and the more chance of curing the disease with conventional treatments. >> and obviously , carol, you >> and obviously, carol, you know, more than anyone, when you mention the c word piece ,
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mention the c word piece, people's hearts freeze a lot of people's hearts freeze a lot of people watching this will empathise with that. but the importance of early screening here to get that detection in is just managing west lindsey. the thing to do, isn't it? >> it is . >> it is. >> it is. >> there's a threshold for when people have symptoms that make them go to the doctor or do something. call nhs one on one. just do something for women. it's actually lower than for men. we've seen it time and time again. men over 70, they just put things off. they just don't don't grumble about their symptoms . maybe passing blood symptoms. maybe passing blood somewhere , maybe getting up somewhere, maybe getting up several times at night to pass water, for example , and they water, for example, and they just carry on for months before they say, well, maybe i should go and see the doctor. and then you've got to phone up a receptionist, may not be receptionist, and it may not be a experience , and a pleasant experience, and you're frightened of may you're frightened of what may happen on. so happen with tubes and so on. so men are different from women. how they react what prince how they react and what prince charles done is really an charles has done is really an educational program in that for a personal education about
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cancen a personal education about cancer, by admitting that he has the disease, he's given lots of people the willingness to do something about symptoms earlier and another thing, professor sikora, we were all amazed by the number of people investigated doing searching onune investigated doing searching online for prostate conditions and large prostate. >> and now we have this , in >> and now we have this, in a sense, an added benefit to the pubuc sense, an added benefit to the public of this very public journey , be that king charles is journey, be that king charles is going through, of being very open about what he's going through, presumably now, man, i'm that age bracket. i'm i'm in that age bracket. i'm a man over 50. if you go and get checked out, for one thing, it's like a general screening everywhere else, and that's a positive thing to be doing. >> exactly. and i think it does encourage people to go for screening. the nhs is a very good, one the best screening good, one of the best screening programs for cancer in breast, uh, variety other uh, in a variety of other diseases, cancer screening diseases, lung cancer screening is and for the right is coming and for the right population, these are heavy smokers, people with persistent coughs and so on. so screening is worthwhile. but perhaps even
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more important, martin is if you have persistent symptoms wherever they are in the body, sore throat , bleeding somewhere, sore throat, bleeding somewhere, do something about it. don't put it off. just go forward . and you it off. just go forward. and you know, darling, nhs one more month you'll get a response . month you'll get a response. there are red flags that the operators pick up and you'll be tracked through the system. sure, there are delays. we've all heard about them in the nhs, but if you've got symptoms that suggest cancer, you'll be fast tracked through it. thank you very much, professor karol sikora, for that positive and upbeat message on the king's health condition . health condition. >> superb. thanks forjoining us on the show. of course , on the show. now we of course, the people's channel, so we wanted to get their reaction to prince return to the uk. prince harry's return to the uk. and we also the great and we also gave the great british the chance to british public the chance to send best wishes to king charles. >> well, he's just like the rest of us, isn't he? he's not infallible. >> we all, you know, we all get these bits and bobs and illnesses and especially, i suppose, because of his age as well. >> you know , he's probably more >> you know, he's probably more prone to it.
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>> , uh, he's been a lucky >> but, uh, he's been a lucky man . man. >> the fact that he was already in hospital and he'd had the obviously the enlarged prostate, and i understand from reading the this morning, it's not the news this morning, it's not the news this morning, it's not the prostate that it's worried about. another form of about. it's another form of cancen about. it's another form of cancer. um, but the fact that it's been mega early , you it's been caught mega early, you know, hopefully he be know, hopefully he should be fine. crossed. fine. fingers crossed. >> a that the king >> this is a time that the king needs everybody around him. i mean, having a cancer. uh uh , mean, having a cancer. uh uh, diagnosis. it's not. it's not an easy thing. >> it just shows you that he is human and fortunately, he's like the rest of us. you know? and cancer is a terrible thing. and unfortunately, it's caught him. but >> oh, i'm very disappointed and upset for him. and i hope, hope he, uh , gets better . great he, uh, gets better. great serving you. >> send your best wishes to king charles on the gb news website and lots of you have already done so. i want to read a couple out here now. they're wonderful messages. crystal
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messages. first of all, crystal says this. i have no doubt that the good restore you the good lord will restore you fully. will bless you with fully. he will bless you with good and long life, so good health and a long life, so that you may fulfil your that you may fulfil all your destiny serve the uk exactly destiny to serve the uk exactly as wonderful mother would as your wonderful mother would have wanted . that's a lovely have wanted. that's a lovely message. crystal and archie says this. your majesty, it was with great sadness and concern that the news of your illness was received today. i'm sure and truly wish that with your great resilience and fortitude you shall endure and recover to guide us all for many, many years to come. another fantastic message. thank you archie. thank you crystal, and indeed thank you crystal, and indeed thank you everybody who's been in touch. and we'll make sure that we pass on all of your wonderful messages to the buckingham palace. thank you very much indeed. now it is 517. and what would you do with an extra £1,500 each month for a whole year ? well, you could win that year? well, you could win that now . great british giveaway as now. great british giveaway as 18 grand in cold hard cash is up
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good luck. >> now liz truss has launched a group called popular conservative and she's hoping to rally right wing tory mps ahead of a general election this year. we'll have the guy who's launched it today after this , launched it today after this, i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel .
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fightback begins , says liz truss fightback begins, says liz truss as she launches popular conservatism or popcorn , in conservatism or popcorn, in a new and democratic movement, delivering popular and conservative policies. the former prime minister is putting pressure on rishi sunak to get tough on elements such as immigration and driving economic growth. so is it time that we that we trust in truss? well, joining me now is popcorns leader mark littlewood. i'm also joined in the studio by gb news political editor christopher hope.so political editor christopher hope. so you're still with me. let's start with you, mark a good day. i mean, you've had a lot press. you're pressing lot of press. you're pressing the right buttons. a lot of good people in the room. chris says there was some money in the room, but there was an elephant in the room on immigration. what's policy platform? how what's the policy platform? how do and change do you want to try and change the party the tory party >> well, the platform is >> well, the policy platform is this really martin? it's quite important it's going important and i know it's going to a bit boring, but it to sound a bit boring, but it matters. institutional matters. the institutional infrastructure of the united kingdom mitigates against conservativism, right . so design
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conservativism, right. so design yourideal conservativism, right. so design your ideal immigration policy. right. let's suppose you've got that in your mind right now. good luck getting that through the echr. the human rights act and the platoons of lawyers . so and the platoons of lawyers. so we're almost making a meta point, if you like , let's the point, if you like, let's the overall structure of the uk changes then it doesn't really matter what your immigration policy is. you'll never be able to implement it. it doesn't really matter whether you want to get taxes down and regulation lowered . you haven't a lowered. you haven't got a prayer, you haven't got a chance. essentially the chance. because essentially the conservatives have signed up to the blairite consensus , uh, the blairite consensus, uh, really devised by the labour party when they were in for office so long, which has built an enormous bureaucratic state. that doesn't mean conservatives can achieve nothing. they've achieved some things in office for 14 years, but it does mean it's an exercise in basically pushing water uphill and unless conserved , lives are going to do conserved, lives are going to do something which is not in there,
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instincts change the way britain is structured as government is structured as a government machine. think we'll machine. then i think we'll continue to see poor results . continue to see poor results. even conservatives were even if the conservatives were to election. to win the next election. >> the big question is that >> so the big question is that sounds great. a lot of people watching this will be going, yeah, that's the sort of party i'd like to vote for. however, realistically, the tories are looking of looking down the barrel of a pretty result. is this pretty grim result. is this about the rebuild after that? well, the first thing is obviously what the conservative party puts in its manifesto. >> right. and i think that is an open question. it's not written popcorn will trying to popcorn will be trying to influence that . um, people have influence that. um, people have been saying to me for weeks, what on earth are you doing launching a movement with the words popular and conservativism in the title. but i think it can be popular. so first, first, first hurdles that obviously everybody wants to talk about what after towards the what happens after towards the leadership. i understand that journalists need to talk about that, you get the ideas that, but if you get the ideas right, an awful lot flows right, then an awful lot flows from that. and this new movement is about getting those ideas right. but there's some
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uncomfortable truths for tories here. after 14 years in here. uh, after 14 years in government taxes are at the highest since the late 1940s. pubuc highest since the late 1940s. public spending through the roof. even though public services are pretty poor, debt and deficits, it's absolutely through the through the roof and regulation everywhere. >> it feels like we got corbyn when they voted boris. chris when they voted for boris. chris the tone of the event and i was really impressed by the audience. >> it was much bigger, wasn't the damp squib? everyone thought there was money in the room. strategists basically everyone you set up a party was you need to set up a party was in that think. so in that room, i think. so whether it's planning for pre—election post election, pre—election or post election, we'll and see. but just we'll wait and see. but just i mean, do where how we get mean, do you where how do we get to pretty pass when you've to this pretty pass when you've been this party which been when this party which you're helping it has you're helping support. it has been 14 years, been in charge for 14 years, but it can't do what it wants to do. i mean, if you can't do what you want to do with the adc majority now 55 working majority. now it's 55 working majority. and what's the point? and then what's the point? i mean, you sort of despair for democracy sense. i mean democracy in a sense. i mean labour tories speaking labour or tories speaking straight analysis. but
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straight to my analysis. but labour tory, i mean labour's labour or tory, i mean labour's labour or tory, i mean labour's labour say the same labour party to say the same thing the the system thing or is the is the system biased favour of the labour biased in favour of the labour party? and they've got the same problem as the tories. >> if you want higher >> i think if you want higher taxes spending and yet taxes yet more spending and yet more . the entire more regulation. the entire structure of the united kingdom's governance and constitution is geared in your favour. if you want lower taxes, less or more efficient spending and fewer regulations, then the system is rigged against you. so we're really making a constitutional point about this now, actually, on their policy platforms, the labour party and the conservative party are not a gigantic distance apart. actually, i think you could say the you know, labour leans somewhat higher taxes the you know, labour leans som higher higher taxes the you know, labour leans som higher spending,gher taxes the you know, labour leans som higher spending, but taxes the you know, labour leans som higher spending, but there's and higher spending, but there's not enormous sea between not some enormous sea between them. so what's built up is this sort of social democratic consensus, which i think is now baked the governmental baked into the governmental system chris, rather system. and, chris, i rather agree with i mean, who is agree with you. i mean, who is going to decide tax cuts we going to decide what tax cuts we might get in the budget is it
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jeremy the chancellor of jeremy hunt, the chancellor of the exchequer, or is it the little hughes who little known richard hughes who runs the obr? if you want richard hughes to be chancellor of the exchequer because you think he's better, fine. but vote for him and he and vote for him and he can't and you can't . you can't. >> okay. >> okay. >> so somebody else was in >> so somebody else who was in the room earlier and raised a few eyebrows, a lot of interest was nigel farage. let's hear what say earlier on. what he had to say earlier on. >> didn't spend 25 years in >> i didn't spend 25 years in ukip being interested in ukip without being interested in ideas a sense that a ideas and i have a sense that a lot of what's going to get said today by liz truss and others will be popular amongst will be very popular amongst conservative activists, conservative activists, conservative and conservative voters and a broader country as well. and yet have a look around this room. how many current serving conservative members of parliament are here? i think less than a handful . and so the less than a handful. and so the point really is that whilst i agree with many of the things, not all, but many of the things that liz truss is saying within the conservative parliamentary party, she's part of an embattled minority. no, i'm not joining this group. embattled minority. no, i'm not joining this group . i'm joining this group. i'm interested in the ideas and i
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think after the conservatives get thrashed at the next election, which, by the way, they thoroughly, thoroughly deserve, then i think maybe finally we'll get a reuniting of the rising british politics. >> is that the elephant in the room? nigel was there , but kind room? nigel was there, but kind of pouring water on the coals of any chance of a tory victory. but i know you don't want to talk about what comes next, but the country does. a lot of tory voters contain you tell us here at gb they're almost giving at gb news they're almost giving up on what the conservatives have become. and acknowledgement defeat imminent . and so defeat is imminent. and so what's the hope for the future ? what's the hope for the future? >> well, look, i am a betting man . usually people answer a man. usually people answer a question saying, i'm not question by saying, i'm not a betting man, but but i am a betting man, but but i am a betting and it is true. the betting man. and it is true. the chances betting markets chances on the betting markets of conservatives prevailing chances on the betting markets of the conservatives prevailing chances on the betting markets of the nextervatives prevailing chances on the betting markets of the next election prevailing chances on the betting markets of the next election are vailing chances on the betting markets of the next election are thin,ig at the next election are thin, but not nigel farage, who i agree with on a vast range of issues.i agree with on a vast range of issues. i think got to answer this question, he says. well, there's not a plethora of
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conservative mps in the room. well, yeah, but there weren't any reform uk mps in the room because are none . um, because there are none. um, there are none. so there's a strategic view here. do you think the conservative party is the best vehicle to promote this , even though it's at a low ebb at the moment? nobody would disagree with that or do you think the reform party think suddenly the reform party can come nowhere and win an can come from nowhere and win an election and over the last 100 years of british history, despite all of these views that small parties can suddenly march to the sunlit uplands. it's not happened yet, and i'm not expecting it to happen any time sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> nigel farage, that was billed as gb news presenter because he was there as a journalist. but of course he's also honorary president of reform and i think thatis president of reform and i think that is fascinating. but you look around there, think look around there, do you think this because the this popcorn exists because the rights have lost any kind of say over how the government is run ? over how the government is run? removal of suella braverman. there's no one who mps can look to and think, well, that's my person anymore. is there? and of course, he you know, they would
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say esther mcvey has dropped in, uh, minister portfolio uh, a minister without portfolio in the office, maybe lee in the cabinet office, maybe lee rowley and planning, but that's about no sense. about it. but there's no sense. there's nothing for the there's nothing now for the right the top of the right anymore at the top of the party. hence popcorn. >> well, it's interesting you say and, you know, say that, chris. and, you know, i'm broken record i'm sorry to be a broken record here. don't think it's so much here. i don't think it's so much about the personalities. i think here. i don't think it's so much abotaboutpersonalities. i think here. i don't think it's so much abotabout the onalities. i think here. i don't think it's so much abotabout the ideas.as. i think here. i don't think it's so much abot about the ideas. and think here. i don't think it's so much abotabout the ideas. and ifink it is about the ideas. and if you'll remember back very well to sunak saying a rather to rishi sunak saying a rather brave assertion, thought at brave assertion, i thought at his conference speech at the conservative party conference last october when he said suddenly change suddenly he's the change candidate. mean, a very candidate. i mean, a very difficult position to be once difficult position to be in once your party has been in government years, albeit government for 14 years, albeit he is the fifth prime minister in that 14 year terms . um, i'd in that 14 year terms. um, i'd encourage rishi sunak to actually run with that idea . so actually run with that idea. so we have deliberately i appreciate we had a former prime minister there, jacob rees—mogg , minister there, jacob rees—mogg, who's also a gb news presenter, there. but if you actually get there. but if you actually get the ideas right, then i think the ideas right, then i think the personalities actually matter less. >> but mark, how's it look though, for the, you know , you,
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though, for the, you know, you, as you said at another group after the five families are sixth family and you addressed that in your remarks, but labour must be rubbing their hands because this helping the because how is this helping the tory win the election? tory party win the election? >> don't think labour >> well, i don't think labour should rubbing hands should be rubbing its hands because think because i actually think a biodiversity ideas within a biodiversity of ideas within a major party good thing. i major party is a good thing. i i the labour party is well ahead in the polls, but what are the intellectual discussions they're having ? they're still going having? they're still going backwards and forwards about whether have a £28 billion whether to have a £28 billion green investment bank. that's the epitome of their intellectual philosophical decision making. so, you know, you unity is required. i think , you unity is required. i think, in terms of personality. but in terms of ideas come one, come all the more families , the better. >> okay. we've got to leave it there. thank you very much. popcorns leader mark littlewood. thank you. i've had a long day. you deserve a drink. after that. and also chris hope. thank you very much. so now it's time for your latest headlines with your latest news headlines with polly .
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martin. >> thank you. the top stories this hour from the gb news room. the king has arrived at sandringham in norfolk , having sandringham in norfolk, having left london this afternoon . king left london this afternoon. king charles and queen camilla took off from buckingham palace earlier on after meeting with prince harry at clarence house, who had flown in from la. the duke of sussex spent around 45 minutes with his father . it's minutes with his father. it's understood prince william has no plans to meet his brother whilst harry is in the uk, and the king personally told his sons about his cancer diagnosis days before buckingham palace made the announcement publicly last evening, palace officials hoping the king's openness about this news will help others whose lives have been affected by cancer. lives have been affected by cancer . in other news, today, cancer. in other news, today, the most recent sighting of chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi was just after 10:00 on wednesday night. that's to according new, more precise information coming to us from the metropolitan police . they're the metropolitan police. they're saying he passed the unilever
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headquarters and was seen heading towards victoria embankment in central london. a £20,000 reward is still being offered to anyone who can provide information on his whereabouts. he suspected of attacking a woman and her children with a corrosive substance. they he has left her with potentially life changing injuries . and as you've been injuries. and as you've been hearing, liz truss says democracy has become unpopular. for as she unveiled a new political group aimed at boosting conservative ideas , the boosting conservative ideas, the popular conservatives movement, or popcon for short , aims to or popcon for short, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the lib dems accused some of those present at the meeting today of economic vandalism, and in the united states, a court has ruled that donald trump is not immune to charges that he plotted to overturn the 2020 us election. it means the former president is now one step away from a criminal trial unprecedented in american political history. his
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. channel >> welcome back. it's 540. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now let's get more now on the popular conservatives. that new movement launched today with liz, liz truss front and centre back from the wilderness and the former prime minister has started with a bang, hitting out at rishi sunak government for failing to take on what she called left wing extremists . called left wing extremists. well, paul scully, who's the conservative mp for sutton and cheam and is the former minister for london, joins me now in the studio. welcome to the studio. and also, of course, i'm still joined by christopher who joined by christopher hope, who was at that popcorn launch earlier this morning. let's start with you. so you've seen these movements come and go. um, it's had scorn poured upon it. tobias ellwood, compared to the people's front of judea, i've been saying earlier on, um , now been saying earlier on, um, now the tory party seems to have more families than coronation street. nevertheless they are making noise noises which seem
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to be landing quite well. is this another sign of a fragment ? this another sign of a fragment? the conservative party, i think, actually this is the first sign of , uh, the actually this is the first sign of, uh, the so—called actually this is the first sign of , uh, the so—called five of, uh, the so—called five family days. >> i'm hoping it's going to be the first sign of them coming together in a sort of semblance of cohesiveness, because what people is , is a, um, a well people want is, is a, um, a well defined conservative party, a well defined, defined conservative vision that we can get behind in parliamentary party and that we can start to sell that vision to the wider public, who are absolutely screaming out for certainty. do you think it's fair say that you think it's fair to say that the left wing extremists are to blame for the mess we're in after all, the conservatives have been in power for 14 years. >> yeah, it's been >> yeah, i mean, it's been chopping and changing, know, >> yeah, i mean, it's been cmean,g and changing, know, >> yeah, i mean, it's been c mean, we've changing, know, >> yeah, i mean, it's been c mean, we've beeniing, know, >> yeah, i mean, it's been c mean, we've been through know, >> yeah, i mean, it's been c mean, we've been through anow, lot. >> i was elected in 2015. so halfway, you know, sort of more than halfway through that process, we had coalition process, we had a coalition government probably government first. i had probably six months of normality. clearly it's normal when you're it's not normal when you're a new everything's new mp. it's everything's dazzling anyway dazzling and shiny. anyway straight brexit straight into the brexit referendum, straight into that two when
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two years of paralysis when parliament head, then parliament lost its head, then into into war in into covid, then into war in ukraine, on the european borders, then . so it's always borders, then. so it's always been extreme , uh, turmoil around been extreme, uh, turmoil around us, coupled with the rise of social media, uh, which really means that people digesting their news and their and their ideasin their news and their and their ideas in a different way to how it was in previous governments . it was in previous governments. that's quite a heady mix, chris. >> you were the room. you >> you were in the room. you were what was the mood were there. what was the mood and does it have any legs? >> i think it has more legs than i thought it did when turned i thought it did when i turned up. i there were about up. i thought there were about ten or tory by the way, ten or so tory mps by the way, 30 mp5 ten or so tory mps by the way, 30 mps went to the party afterwards. they want to be seen in public, because the in public, maybe because the whips about it. whips weren't sure about it. >> in for a free drink. >> and it's in for a free drink. >> and it's in for a free drink. >> but also i think they >> well, but also i think they are. look, there's a planning going on here, paul probably post—election. i looked around going on here, paul probably pothezlection. i looked around going on here, paul probably pothe donors. i looked around going on here, paul probably pothe donors in looked around going on here, paul probably pothe donors in looi
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whether sees it as whether number 10 sees it as a threat or a support, as they look for ideas, how the next election, i'm hoping election, well, i'm hoping they're looking at ideas. >> to disclosure, i was at >> to full disclosure, i was at their the drinks afterwards. not not didn't want be not because i didn't want to be seen. why i'm saying on seen. that's why i'm saying on live i live television because i had other before and how other meetings before and how was it then? >> i don't see i think was. >> i don't see i think it was. >> i don't see i think it was. >> they felt really, you >> i think they felt really, you know, mark and others felt really about it. and really positive about it. and what's about what's interesting about it, i'm really to see what those really keen to see what those ideas! really keen to see what those ideas i don't. i'm identify with a one family a family or one family or another. um, and don't another. um, and i don't want this six family. this this to be a six family. this has to be something that's bringing together the right of the so that we have the party so that we can have that rediscover broad that rediscover that broad church. you do , you church. because what you do, you i if you sit there in on i think if you sit there in on the of the party on either the right of the party on either extreme and say, come the extreme and say, come in the waters, water's warm , then waters, the water's warm, then people tend not to follow you. if centre in the if you're in the centre in the sort bell curve of it and sort of bell curve of it and take people with you because of the ideas and these the weight of ideas and these kind of things , that's when you kind of things, that's when you succeed in this, in this country i >>i >> i wonder if it feels a bit half cocked. i mean, i take the
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temperature from the comment section in, in like the telegraph express. the telegraph and the express. the mail gb news, you know, mail gb views news, you know, the the conservative the people, the conservative voters just feel like the voters who just feel like the party just tack telling party just isn't tack telling the issues, the huge the huge issues, the huge elephants the room, elephants in the room, immigration was barely discussed today. are furious about today. people are furious about the of our porous, porous the state of our porous, porous borders , both legal and illegal borders, both legal and illegal islamism. net zero, endless immigration, um, globalism that's decimate the wages for the working classes. these are the working classes. these are the things that people are talking about and we're seeing in europe when they've given the opportunity to vote for those kind of parties. meloni in italy , in netherlands, freedom , in netherlands, the freedom party , sweden's democrats, even party, sweden's democrats, even the afd, le pen . in france. now the afd, le pen. in france. now we might baucus oh, they're right wing extremists. but people seem to want more change as being offered by by popcorn . as being offered by by popcorn. it feels a bit like a pint of shandy when we want a strong scotch. yeah, yeah, that's a good point. >> look, i think all of >> but look, i think all of those issues are really, really important. what's
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important. i think what's happening there, there has been a of disillusion around a sense of disillusion around europe the world. europe and around the world. i would it slightly would see it slightly differently, um, because we've had have centre left had tend to have centre left governments europe in governments in europe and in america. people moving america. people are moving towards moving against towards against moving against the incumbents because they've , the incumbents because they've, they've you know, we've shovelled £408 billion out of the door and clearly can't the door and clearly you can't do that we've got to do that forever. we've got to work how get that back. work out how to get that back. hence burden etc. and so hence the tax burden etc. and so people looking at the people understand looking at the here and the next five here and now and the next five years, give us thanks years, they don't give us thanks for chart way out for trying to chart our way out of covid. they're worrying of our covid. they're worrying about in it for them, and about what's in it for them, and that's why they're moving either side. to give side. but we do need to give them some full fat conservatism. so certainty . so they got that certainty. >> and you hear that today in >> and do you hear that today in this private conversation you had you hear you had afterwards? did you hear you thought that, know, thought that, you know, i thought, frankly, i think the pm would with what would agree with most of what was that room. yeah so was said in that room. yeah so why why can't you do it? you're in, got in, you're in. post you've got the hands the levers of the hands on the levers of power. you may not have it after the election looking at the polls, can't you deliver on polls, why can't you deliver on the anti—woke agenda? deliver on a agenda?
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a workable green agenda? why can't it you're in can't you do it if you're in government? seems government? it seems extraordinary. i think. government? it seems ext|look,1ary. i think. government? it seems ext|look,1ary. i tgotz. government? it seems ext|look,1ary. i tgot a risk >> look, you've got a risk averse, party that sort of averse, um, party that sort of because we've come out of that turmoil i was describing turmoil that i was describing earlier got, earlier on. and so we've got, i think rishi is coming to it from a you know, a particular point of stabilise the of view trying to stabilise the market, stabilise economy market, stabilise the economy and to stretch out and then starts to stretch out with vision. but we haven't with that vision. but we haven't seen vision yet and that's seen the vision yet and that's really important. something i've said we said before, i'll say again, we need on need to be getting on to a little bit more, showing a bit more leg so that people know what we are standing for. not now, next now, but over the next five years. >> w fi— $— >> interesting. liz truss said britain full of secret britain is full of secret conservatives. how conservatives. well, how much longer they stay longer are they going to stay secret? i mean, who are they going to vote for if they can't vote a true conservative vote for a true conservative party seat majority? party that 80 seat majority? paul party that 80 seat majority? paul, a lifetime ago. >> it does, it does. and it is incredibly frustrating. i talked about fact that, you know, about the fact that, you know, people aren't going to thank us about the fact that, you know, pecwhatren't going to thank us about the fact that, you know, pecwhat we'veioing to thank us about the fact that, you know, pecwhat we've done.o thank us about the fact that, you know, pecwhat we've done.o thewhen for what we've done. and when you talked about the comments, uh, they aren't uh, the problem is they aren't the people that are laying the comments are people are comments are the people that are actually this. actually interested in this. most busy cooking
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most people are busy cooking eggs. other stuff. eggs. they're doing other stuff. and so they'll see things by headunes and so they'll see things by headlines or what someone else is them than the is telling them rather than the depth covering. depth that you're covering. the newspapers that you're talking about covering they're about are covering that. they're looking in a very looking at it in a very different perspective, okay, looking at it in a very differ
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go to gb news. com forward slash pm gb news people's forum . the pm gb news people's forum. the prime minister will be live on gb news exclusively at 8:00 next monday evening . so now it's 551. monday evening. so now it's 551. is the litter in your neighbourhood getting out of control? well, for campaign group clean up britain, it certainly is . with a not for certainly is. with a not for profit group set out to stop littering and fly—tipping in the uk for good. and joining me now is john reid, who's the founder of clean up britain. john, welcome to the show. tremendous work i love this sort of stuff. people power doing something about an issue that's blighting britain. what motivated you to start clean up britain ? start clean up britain? >> oh, that's very kind of you to say that. thank you. martin. what motivated me is that, uh, like many of your, uh, yours, i'm sure i have a lot of pride. and i love my country. and 14 years ago, i was driving from edinburgh to london, 400 miles. and i don't think i saw 100m of
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road, which didn't have litter on it. and unfortunately , the on it. and unfortunately, the situation is the same today. we are the most filthy, lifted country in the western world. um, it's a real disgrace and a major stain on our national integrity. uh, and it depresses a lot of people as well. uh, and i'm afraid the government's policy in relation to litter has been a catastrophic failure. >> and john, we're seeing some pictures on screen now that you suppued pictures on screen now that you supplied to us. utterly horrendous littering all over the shop , particularly on the shop, particularly on roundabouts and the sides of motorways. and you're doing something about this, aren't you, john? you're having a talisman court case tomorrow. tell us about that. absolutely >> so tomorrow we're at, uh, guildford magistrates court and we are taking a national highways to, uh, to that particular court because because we're alleging that they're in breach of their duty to ensure that the motorways are kept clear of litter, they have a statutory duty under the 1990 environmental protection act. >> unfortunately, they're flagrantly violating . that duty.
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flagrantly violating. that duty. you can see on the pictures that are in front of everyone's screens at the moment. it's an appalling state. they just completely, uh, disregard their responsibility. and in the process, they're breaking the law . so they're the law law. so they're breaking the law not around , uh, guildford, law. so they're breaking the law not all around , uh, guildford, law. so they're breaking the law not all overund , uh, guildford, law. so they're breaking the law not all over the , uh, guildford, law. so they're breaking the law not all over the countryildford, law. so they're breaking the law not all over the country . dford, law. so they're breaking the law not all over the country . so rd, but all over the country. so tomorrow asking a judge to tomorrow we're asking a judge to order a litter abatement order against them , and so we can help against them, and so we can help show the fact that this is a quango out of control, not accountable quango, which by the way, is given £5.4 billion of taxpayers money a year , and it's taxpayers money a year, and it's just not doing its job, not only that, it's breaking the law . that, it's breaking the law. >> and john, you said something earlier , which i think a lot of earlier, which i think a lot of people will agree with. look people will agree with. we look like a third world country now, and the government doesn't seem to care. >> i mean, g i mean, it's f— >> yeah. i mean, it's really, really sorrowful to have to say something like that. um the reason i spend so much time running this campaign is because i care. and so do many, i really care. and so do many, many people. i'm sure the vast majority of not all your viewers
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care as well . but actually, if care as well. but actually, if you drive around britain, we literally look like a rundown third world country and the government just doesn't seem to do anything or care about it. and that's one of the reasons why we're bringing court why we're bringing this court case because it's just case tomorrow, because it's just so, it's so sad to see so, so, um, it's so sad to see the country like that. you don't see any other western country , see any other western country, uh, lifted in the way britain is. you absolutely don't. i know, because i've been to every single of yeah, there single one of them. yeah, there are hotspots here and there, like napoli and paris, but by and these countries are and large, these countries are spotless britain . we spotless compared to britain. we need something about need to do something about it. and i urge please have and i urge people, please have a look at the, uh, clean up britain twitter site at clean up britain twitter site at clean up britain or our website. see for yourself . and what i'd say to yourself. and what i'd say to yourself. and what i'd say to your viewers is next time they get in the car, have a look. okay. john reid, we have to leave it there. >> good luck in court case >> good luck in the court case tomorrow, the founder clean >> good luck in the court case tonbritain.:he founder clean >> good luck in the court case tonbritain.super.�*|der clean >> good luck in the court case tonbritain. super. thanksclean >> good luck in the court case tonbritain. super. thanks foran up britain. super. thanks for joining me on the show today. i've been martin daubney. i'll be back tomorrow till be back tomorrow at three till six. but that, right be back tomorrow at three till six. bme. that, right be back tomorrow at three till six. bme. michelle , right
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be back tomorrow at three till six. bme. michelle dewberry . after me. michelle dewberry. a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello, i'm alex deakin . >> hello, i'm alex deakin. welcome along to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. some snow in the forecast tonight across parts of northern scotland. further south it's rain. we're contending with this weather front or set of weather fronts is slipping south. it's bringing the outbreaks of rain, but also introducing air. very introducing colder air. very windy and at times wintry. in shetland, the strong winds are easing over northern scotland, but another band of sleet and snow comes in through the night could turn icy as well, so we do have a met office yellow warning in place. could easily be a covering of snow even at lower levels. further south it will be rain way steadily rain that slips its way steadily across southern england and south keeping things south wales, keeping things above here. but from above freezing here. but from northern england northwards, a pretty hence pretty extensive frost. hence why be we see
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is the beginning of a family rift repairing itself. should it be? you tell me. and the man suspected of the clapham chemical attack is still on the run. six days later. why on earth has this fellow not been caught and this whole notion of so many asylum seekers apparently converting to christianity in order to remain in the uk? what is going on there? and the latest concern party group has launched. i got to be honest, i've lost count on what number we are now. but anyway, this one is called popcorn. they say the machinery of government rigged against of government is rigged against conservatism, is it or not? and what should the official retirement age in this country be? it suggested now that from 2050, are you sitting down? everybody it will need to be 71 years of age. do you support
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