is the beginning of a family rift repairing itself. should it be.7 you rift repairing itself. should it be? you tell me. and the man suspected of the clapham chemical attack is still on the run. six days later. why on earth has this fellow not been caught and this whole notion of so many asylum seekers apparently converting to christianity in order to remain in the uk? what is going on there? and the latest concern party group has launched. i got to be honest, i've lost count on what number we are now. but anyway, this one is called popcorn. they say the machinery of government rigged against of government is rigged against conservatism, is it or not? and what should the official retirement age in this country be? it suggested now that from 2050, are you sitting down? everybody it will need to be 71 years of age. do you support

that. indeed. we'll years of age. do you support that . indeed. we'll debate all that. indeed. we'll debate all of that and more over the next houn of that and more over the next hour. but before we do, let's cross live to polly middlehurst for tonight's latest news headunes. headlines. >> michelle, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the newsroom tonight is that the king has arrived at his sandringham estate in norfolk , having left london this norfolk, having left london this afternoon , king charles and afternoon, king charles and queen camilla left buckingham palace earlier on after meeting with prince harry at clarence house, who had flown in from la. the duke of sussex spent around 45 minutes talking with his father . it's also become clear father. it's also become clear today prince william says he has no plans to meet his brother, whilst harry is in the uk and we understand the king personally told both his sons about his cancers diagnosed ipsis before

buckingham palace made the announcement publicly last night, palace officials now hope the king's openness about his news will help others whose lives are affected by cancer. meanwhile, members of the public up and down the country have been wishing the king well. but that he was already in hospital and he'd had the obviously the enlarged prostate . enlarged prostate. >> great. and i understand from reading news morning, reading the news this morning, it's prostate that it's it's not the prostate that it's worried about. it's another form of cancer. the fact that of cancer. um, but the fact that it's been caught mega early, you know, should be know, hopefully he should be fine. fingers crossed. i just think it's sad. it's the same as any someone gets that any family. if someone gets that sort of news, obviously it's going to be devastating. uh but isuppose going to be devastating. uh but i suppose he's handling it pretty well at first. >> it's so sad really, with the loss of the queen not too long ago . now he's having cancer. ago. now he's having cancer. yeah, it's a sad time as well. >> in other news, today, and as you've been hearing, the chemical attack suspect, abdul azadi is still on the loose. the

last known sighting of him was just after 10:00 on wednesday evening. the met police telling us today, azadi passed the unilever building and was heading towards victoria embankment in central london on wednesday . a £20,000 reward wednesday. a £20,000 reward still being offered for anyone with any information that leads to the suspect's arrest , as he to the suspect's arrest, as he is suspected of attacking a woman and her children with a corrosive substance that has potentially left her with life changing injuries. potentially left her with life changing injuries . as liz truss changing injuries. as liz truss says, democracy has become unpopular. she unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative ideas . the popular conservative ideas. the popular conservatives movement, or popcon, as it's known, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the liberal democrats accused some of those present at today's launch of economic vandalism, but mistrust told gb news she thinks left wing ideas have gone too far for

a 46 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of malicious communications following reports of an abusive and threatening phone call to a conservative mp. london office mike freer announced his decision to quit politics last week , telling us at gb news that week, telling us at gb news that he feared for his safety. the justice minister has been the target of several death threats, as well as an arson attack on his finchley and golders green constituency office. his energy suppliers will soon have to pay customers £30 if they fail to complete their customers switch to another firm within five days, ofgem said . switching days, ofgem said. switching rates continued to increase each month and it wanted to empower customers to take control of their energy bills as part of an energy suppliers licence , a firm energy suppliers licence, a firm has to switch a customer's electricity or gas supply within five working days from the date of the request . now, the of the request. now, the majority of teenage boys are being exposed to misogynistic content online in, according to

new research. data from vodafone, shows that almost 70% of 11 to 14 year old boys have come across posts on social media that promoted prejudice to women or girls . more than two women or girls. more than two thirds of teachers are also saying they've seen a rise in sexist language in the classrooms over the last year , classrooms over the last year, and half of parents say they've heard their sons make inappropriate comments that were degrading about women and girls because the parents say, of what their sons have seen online and their sons have seen online and the social media company meta is starting to label images that have been created using ai . it have been created using ai. it means any images posted to facebook, instagram or even threads that were created using artificial intelligence will automatically be flagged, the company says it's currently building the new tool, and it will be rolled out in the coming months. meta says it will reduce the ability of fraudsters to distribute deceitful content . if distribute deceitful content. if you fancy gb news alerts, do sign up to our qr code by

scanning that on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . go to gb news. com slash alerts. thanks very much for that, polly. >> i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company till seven. i could actually just do a whole show responding to just those headunes show responding to just those headlines love that headlines there. i love that story energy companies story about the energy companies potentially being fined £30 if they're slow switch. i'm they're too slow to switch. i'm a i confess, a capitalist, i confess, but i wouldn't actually. wouldn't mind. actually. more companies financially companies being held financially to when they're not to account when they're not following either customer instructions or providing good customer service. i will definitely be backing the expansion of those kind of penalties. would you? and also this whole notion that last story, though, when you're talking boys that talking about these boys that are more misogynistic are becoming more misogynistic or seeing more content, it always surprises always kind of never surprises me, never fails to surprise me. should when parents sit should i say, when parents sit there know, child there saying, you know, my child has seen or my child has has seen this, or my child has seen you wouldn't let your seen that you wouldn't let your child , like, don't child go into, like, i don't know, a club or anything know, a strip club or anything unattended, would you? so why do

so many parents their so many parents let their kids just their own bedrooms just sit in their own bedrooms unattended smartphones? i've unattended on smartphones? i've never understood that. are you a parent? do you check what your kid is up to online, etc? get in touch and tell me your thoughts on lots that i on that. i've got lots that i want to talk to about want to talk to you about tonight though alongside me, my panel tonight though alongside me, my panel. got the format panel. i've got the format brexit party mep nancy the brexit party mep and nancy the tories smog and a new face. we like dewbs& .uk like those on dewbs& co .uk trade macdonald. trade unionists andy macdonald. welcome you. a little welcome to both of you. a little bit later on in the programme, i want to talk about this new tory party group, popcorn group, party group, the popcorn group, and almost snickering and i'm almost snickering because i do think it's a bit ridiculous we've got yet ridiculous that we've got yet another anyway, another group. but anyway, annunziata so i'm annunziata was there, so i'm looking forward to her insights on that group and what's going to and all the rest to come of it and all the rest of it anyway. you know the drill on this program, it's on this program, don't you? it's not about three. it is not just about us three. it is about you guys at home as well. so on your mind tonight? so what's on your mind tonight? gb views news. com or you gb views at gb news. com or you can mixmag b news of can tweet mixmag b news of course. last night we course. this time last night we were breaking to you wasn't we? the the fact that the sad news of the fact that our a form of cancer.

our king has a form of cancer. well, as you've just been heanng well, as you've just been hearing the headlines there, hearing in the headlines there, prince he now in the prince harry, he is now in the uk and he has met with his father. many people now speculating this perhaps is the beginning of a rift being healed. let's cross live then, shall we? to our royal correspondent , kate shall we? to our royal correspondent, kate cameron walker, who is at buckingham palace. good evening cameron , palace. good evening cameron, bnng palace. good evening cameron, bring us up to speed with the goings on today, if you will. >> good evening. michelle it's been an incredibly busy day here in central london. prince harry landed at heathrow airport at around lunchtime. he was quickly whisked off to the vip windsor suite , where he was then put suite, where he was then put into a black suv and then driven with a police escort into central london to clarence house, where he arrived shortly after 2:30 pm. and then he spent around 45 minutes with his majesty the king, and some are questioning why is it that, beanng questioning why is it that, bearing in mind he's flown ten hours from los angeles to london, but he's only spending 45 minutes with his father , who 45 minutes with his father, who has just been diagnosed with a

form of cancer. it seems like an awful long way to go for a 45 minute meeting. he then left clarence house. the king and queen left shortly afterwards and drove to buckingham palace behind where took off behind me, where they took off in and have now in a helicopter and have now landed sandringham. following landed at sandringham. following the king's hospital treatment yesterday. stayed yesterday. he obviously stayed at house last night. at clarence house last night. i've also been told by a source close to the prince of wales tonight that he has no plans to meet his brother, prince harry, while he is in the uk. so in terms of the relationship between william and harry, that clearly is still very rocky indeed. yes it's a bit of an olive branch that prince harry and the king have met in person. it's the first time seen it's the first time they've seen each the king's each other since the king's coronation in may. but the question tonight, michelle, is where harry staying? where is prince harry staying? he from frogmore he was evicted from frogmore cottage the cottage following the publication of his memoir, spare . he doesn't have any, uh , . he doesn't have any, uh, obvious lodgings to stay in within the united kingdom, but of course, he is the king's son and there are several royal

properties he could potentially stay in. but the question is, does have an official does he have an official invitation from the royal family? >> interesting stuff. i would suggest a list of hotels that he could perhaps go stay at, but a work cameron, because they've been filled up with migrants. anyway, very for anyway, thank you very much for that update there. annunciate your thoughts on this story. >> i think it's all incredibly sad that harry has caused a lot of damage to the royal family and a lot of damage to his own personal relationships with his immediate family that are going to be very hard to heal and the king is going to have to lead the way that i think the number one focus has to be on his current well—being and his support for getting through his cancer and i'm sure william will do whatever his father asks him to do in relation to this. >> but i think harry has to as well and not make it all about harry. >> do you think that's possible ? >> do you think that's possible? well, because i've got to say, i covered this story last night. right. and i find that people are they split, i would almost say, few different camps.

say, into a few different camps. you've the one side of you've got the one side of things that, you know, they really kind of glued to really were kind of glued to this news yesterday . they, this sad news yesterday. they, uh, really passionate about the story and passionate about the goings the family. then goings on with the family. then you had this whole collection of people just kind of people that were just kind of like, know, there's a lot like, you know, there's a lot of other going the other stuff going on in the world. move on. and then world. uh, move on. and then there this other group there was this other group of people that so strongly people that felt so strongly about of about harry, irrespective of anything were kind of anything else that were kind of getting in touch with me, saying he's a traitor. he shouldn't even back the uk. even be allowed back in the uk. so, there are really so, i mean, there are really strong whichever side the strong whichever side of the dividing line sit on. there dividing line you sit on. there are strong opinions are really strong opinions on harry and um, harry still and i think, um, from reports across the press, one of things has one of the things that this has really brought is quite how really brought home is quite how important the monarchy is not just but just in this country, but internationally, and to the perception of our country, and that is our monarch that the king is our monarch represents very firmly , as represents that very firmly, as the did before him . the queen did before him. >> i think it's hugely important this doesn't become about harry. it's a time of calm it's got to be a time of calm and recovery and improving health, and a focus on the

royals, who actually do the job of representing not only the royal family, but our country here and abroad. yeah >> and i've got to say, and i've been looking at lots of the tributes that have come in, uh, sending well—wishes, etc, to the king. so many of them, as you say, they're not just within the uk, but they are much, much further afield. a&e where are you all? you on it all? >> have to say i'm in that >> i have to say i'm in that middle that you described. middle camp that you described. you i sad for king you know, i feel sad for king charles and his family as any normal person know, normal person would. you know, cancer very sad thing and cancer is a very sad thing and it's nice to see that it's almost uniting the family. you know, harry's coming and know, harry's coming over and i think that's normal reaction. think that's a normal reaction. you illness does bring you know, illness does bring separated but you know, illness does bring s struggle but you know, illness does bring s struggle to but you know, illness does bring s struggle to give but you know, illness does bring s struggle to give more but you know, illness does bring sstruggle to give more of but i struggle to give more of a thought it than that. i'll be thought to it than that. i'll be honest. know, i think honest. it's, you know, i think this a up call. this should be a wake up call. you know, it shows that even the very top of our society, our monarch, can get you know, monarch, can get ill. you know, i'd encourage everyone, you know, putting that know, if you're putting off that test, get tested. you test, go and get tested. you know, cancer in know, he found this cancer in a prostate examination and prostate examination and prostate um, i'd prostate operation. um, i'd encourage, encourage encourage, you know, i encourage everyone as well. if

everyone to see this as well. if the king can get it. you know how well looked after he is. anyone it. anyone can get it. >> yeah. of course. and i think even if you are that camp, even if you are in that camp, which know, sad news, which is, you know, sad news, but, uh, you know, lots of other things to focus on. do think things to focus on. i do think actually, um, so many people, they feel like they're they almost feel like they're untouchable. they go through life sit there. life and they kind of sit there. well, never get ill. i'll well, i'll never get ill. i'll never get and i do think, never get ill. and i do think, actually, when profile actually, when a high profile person, whoever is, uh, does person, whoever it is, uh, does get that is has the get something that is has the potential cause cancer, you potential to cause cancer, you know, have a lot more know, yes, we have a lot more advancements in medication, but cancer a quite scary cancer is still a quite scary word, especially touches word, especially when it touches your or indeed yourself. your family or indeed yourself. it your tracks. it stops you in your tracks. so it stops you in your tracks. so i those people that i think even those people that are in your camp, help are in your camp, it can't help but kind of stop you a little bit actually, like bit and think actually, like you're saying, look inward. how's feeling? how how's my body feeling? how is everything that ailment everything with me that ailment that ages and that i've had for ages and turned a blind, blind eye to. i need to go get it checked. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, you know, during i remember know, during covid, i remember when got covid and when tom hanks got covid and that like, it almost that was like, made it almost more because, oh my god, more real because, oh my god, this this guy i've grown up this this guy who i've grown up watching got you

watching has got ill. and you know, seeing king a man watching has got ill. and you knovwe'veng king a man watching has got ill. and you knovwe've known| a man watching has got ill. and you knovwe've known our a man watching has got ill. and you knovwe've known our entire) man that we've known our entire lives getting ill, it's like it just it real. like you just makes it real. like you said, it just brings it back down to earth. >> remember, of course >> yeah, i remember, of course we all do. anyway, when the queen died and that. and honestly, i mean, obviously i wouldn't that wouldn't necessarily say that i am. i'm like your am. i'm probably like your average you know, average person. um, you know, i like royal family, but like the royal family, but i don't my life obsessing. i don't spend my life obsessing. i don't spend my life obsessing. i don't have tea towels or anything like that. but actually, the actually, i remember when the queen course, was queen died, of course, she was very but that did very old, but that really did stop remember going down stop me. i remember going down to buckingham actually, stop me. i remember going down to the (ingham actually, stop me. i remember going down to the way1am actually, stop me. i remember going down to the way back actually, stop me. i remember going down to the way back from actually, stop me. i remember going down to the way back from here, ally, stop me. i remember going down to the way back from here, and on the way back from here, and i don't know why i there. don't know why i was there. i wanted to feel a connection. and then i think kind of put that then i think i kind of put that onto made think of my onto it made me think of my family members, and think family members, and i think that's special that the that's a special power that the royal do have. it does royal family do have. it does kind make reflect on your kind of make you reflect on your own ones sometimes, own loved ones sometimes, particularly with, you know, queen the second, the queen elizabeth the second, the late ii. late queen elizabeth ii. >> wasn't just queen >> she wasn't just queen elizabeth was the queen. elizabeth ii, she was the queen. you wherever go you know, wherever you'd go across was the across the world, it was the queen. wasn't our queen or a queen. it wasn't our queen or a queen. it was the queen. so definitely. >> and she did, because partly

she live great age. she did live to a great age. i think we all had begun to feel she was sort of immortal. yeah. and it came as a huge, devastating discover and it came as a huge, deva actually, discover and it came as a huge, devaactually, like discover and it came as a huge, deva actually, like alldiscover and it came as a huge, deva actually, like all of :over and it came as a huge, deva actually, like all of us,er that actually, like all of us, the must come eventually. the end must come eventually. and her soul had to on. but and her soul had to move on. but she emblematic of our she was so emblematic of our country. never quite be country. she never quite be replaced. king doing replaced. but the king is doing a job. a remarkable job. >> is doing a remarkable job >> he is doing a remarkable job in of raising awareness. in terms of raising awareness. although they will, course, although they will, of course, be people that have be a lot of people that have said, because we don't know more details the type of details about the type of cancen details about the type of cancer, has cancer, etc, it perhaps has raised questions than raised a lot more questions than it gave answers. but i think it does this kind of does also raise this kind of nofion does also raise this kind of notion healthcare notion about healthcare inequality, because it's all well good having people, well and good having people, understandably and rightly raising awareness. but if someone, for example, the someone, for example, in the case suspected prostate someone, for example, in the case if suspected prostate someone, for example, in the case if suzcan'ted prostate someone, for example, in the case if suzcan't even�*state someone, for example, in the case if suzcan't even gete someone, for example, in the case if suzcan't even get in issue, if you can't even get in to see doctor for a psa test, to see a doctor for a psa test, then that can be quite scary . if then that can be quite scary. if you think there's something wrong with you, but you can't get the help that you need, and there huge inequalities, there are huge inequalities, not just between the fact that he was at the london clinic, which just between the fact that he w¢clearlye london clinic, which just between the fact that he w¢clearlye lonexpensive which just between the fact that he w¢clearlye lonexpensive and ch is clearly very expensive and very exclusive. >> all, is the >> but after all, he is the king. but also across the country, the nhs has such

different standards different different standards in different parts different different standards in different parts have different different different standards in different parts have different outcomes trusts have different outcomes that we really do need that i think we really do need to restructure the nhs so that it functions for everyone across the nation . the whole nation. >> and michael, one of my viewers, has said, michelle, absolutely. want the absolutely. you want to echo the sentiments about hoping the king gets also, he gets well and he says also, he feels that there is this kind of discrepancy between the way men's health is treated and funded and regarded versus william he's william women's health. so he's saying he hopes now that actually this does put more of a focus men's health and men's focus on men's health and men's ailments. and he says, i know ailments. um and he says, i know it's the king and it's very sad when anyone gets cancer . but when anyone gets cancer. but isn't there more important things to talk about? that's yourin things to talk about? that's your in the other camp that i referenced, andy, jackie says, why on earth is harry here? so quickly and only for such a short meeting ? this is just short meeting? this is just harry trying to promote harry. well done william , she says for well done william, she says for not meeting him. we don't want him here. the sooner he leaves the uk, the better. cool. blimey, jackie , you're a harsh blimey, jackie, you're a harsh woman. don't want this woman. don't you want this family to reunite, or do you

think, i suspect many might think, as i suspect many might think, as i suspect many might think, actually it's gone a think, that actually it's gone a little bit too far ? stephen says little bit too far? stephen says harry apologise. sure but he harry can apologise. sure but he would naive if he thought the would be naive if he thought the royal trust him royal family would trust him ever .i royal family would trust him ever . i think that's an ever again. i think that's an interesting point that make interesting point that you make there, last night there, and i remember last night when he was talking about harry potentially coming the uk, if potentially coming to the uk, if i had a pound for every one that was saying things like, i wonder if a netflix crew etc. will be in the car with him, then i'd have a very woman have been a very rich woman anyway. look, andy, said anyway. look, andy, you said there else to talk there were nothing else to talk about. there is, i've got about. yes, there is, i've got lots that want to cover with lots that i want to cover with you coming up after the break. i want to you about the want to talk to you about the fact this guy fact that this guy that suspected the clapper suspected of the clapper chemical attack is still the chemical attack is still on the run, this whole notion of run, and this whole notion of people apparently to people apparently converting to christianity in order to get, um, know, refuge and asylum um, you know, refuge and asylum here. you make that? here. what do you make to that? and i'm going to be bold. do you actually or not? you actually believe it or not? you tell me. i'll you in two.

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not on our watch. it's all about you and the prime minister. and if you're sitting there thinking, how can i be a part of it? whip out your telephones. this this qr code, the squiggly box there on screen. get box there on the screen. get your out, take a picture your camera out, take a picture of and all of the details are of it and all of the details are on there. and hopefully might on there. and hopefully i might see on monday. what see you there on monday. what a treat anyway, look, treat for us all anyway, look, keeping company. the former keeping me company. the former brexit mep the brexit party mep nancy the tories mogg is alongside me, as is trade unionist andy is the trade unionist andy macdonald stephen, my macdonald and stephen, my viewer. we were just reflecting in there about your in the break there about your comments about harry, comments about prince harry, where saying whatever where you were saying whatever happens again, how can the royal family ever be sure that they could trust him? and i think you make a really good point, because would be sitting because you would be sitting there, thinking, because you would be sitting th he, thinking, because you would be sitting th he recording thinking, because you would be sitting th he recording this? thinking, because you would be sitting th he recording this? is nking, because you would be sitting th he recording this? is this g, is he recording this? is this conversation, chapter conversation, the next chapter in his podcast or in his book or his podcast or his netflix show or whatever? would trust would you be able to trust someone that scenario? someone in that scenario? i don't you me. look, don't know, you tell me. look, i want to talk to you. you'll be familiar by now. i'm sure, with the horrendous, the awful, horrendous, um, chemical that took place chemical attack that took place in do have to in clapham. and i do have to tell you, wasn't a tell you, it wasn't just a chemical attack. it does keep

getting called that, but it also this person did that also this person that did that also body a three year old body slammed a three year old multiple concrete multiple times onto the concrete and of course went on to and then of course went on to hit her mom a car. hit her mom with a car. absolutely disgrace. awful. anyway, that is anyway, the person that is suspected this is still on suspected of this is still on the run. we're on day six now. i'm showing you the latest cctv footage . i've got to say, you footage. i've got to say, you know, it's like tangent, but it never kind of when i look at this , i think, how is cctv this, i think, how is cctv footage so bad ? i mean, if footage so bad? i mean, if you're listening on the radio, you've got to take my word for it. it is so grainy and i just think, how is that possible? in 2020, we get a better picture on your smartphone. anyway, a slight tangent. uh, how do you think it is that guy has think it is that this guy has still been caught out? still not been caught out? >> i was listening to gb news at the weekend . well done. and one the weekend. well done. and one of your , uh, guests said he may of your, uh, guests said he may well all already be dead . and i well all already be dead. and i believe the met police have now said the same. given the severity of his injuries. i don't think that's impossible.

although i do think he would probably be found quite quickly if he has , um, died. uh it's a if he has, um, died. uh it's a horrific crime and he shouldn't have been here to have committed it. >> no, he should not. i'm not sure i buy this dead theory. i've got to say, um, you know, because there's other theories around that. actually, he's been harboured, uh, and helped by people, who had that people, of course, who had that arrest. fellow arrest. and then the fellow released, subsequently released, um, subsequently on bail. andy, where are you bail. anyway andy, where are you with it? think so bizarre. >> like, you were saying, >> like, like you were saying, you london is one of the you know, london is one of the most surveilled in most surveilled cities in europe. you know, it's definitely surveilled definitely the most surveilled in the you've got a bloke in the uk. you've got a bloke who's got of his face who's got half of his face missing can't find him. missing and we can't find him. that's odd thing. that's just such an odd thing. i mean, you know, i think it'd be difficult him to be difficult for him to be harboured, you know, there was a statement came out from a shop in where he used to in newcastle where he used to live, thought he live, saying they thought he was a muslim and that he was a good muslim and that he was they shocked that he'd they were shocked that he'd go and this. i think a lot of and do this. so i think a lot of those communities have actually rejected wow, this rejected him and gone, wow, this quy's rejected him and gone, wow, this guy's nuts. which is fair enough to it's just it's just

to them. and it's just it's just so haven't found so odd that they haven't found him yet. >> but it does really bring home the problem with our asylum system certainly of system that certainly one of the, that going system that certainly one of the, is that going system that certainly one of the, is that that going system that certainly one of the, is that he :hat going system that certainly one of the, is that he ist going system that certainly one of the, is that he is being»ing around is that he is being harboured by the gang who smuggled him here in first smuggled him here in the first place, a lorry place, on the back of a lorry that once you've come into this country illegally, you have a criminal and when you criminal network. and when you do like this do something horrific like this or you've got or any other crime, you've got people to go to in a way that i think of us on this panel think any of us on this panel would not. >> mean, you've got to be >> i mean, you've got to be a special kind of wrong and haven't you, to even think about helping someone who is possibly capable of doing some of the acts just mentioned to acts that i've just mentioned to you? about this whole you? let's talk about this whole nofion you? let's talk about this whole notion that apparently that this guy converted guy had converted to christianity apparently christianity and that apparently was the thing that swung it when it comes to him getting asylum in this country , having had two in this country, having had two failed already and two, uh, failed bids already and two, uh, criminal convictions as well. i mean, you're a religious person. do you kind of think, oh my, my arms are open to absolutely everyone that wants to convert you? do you believe that these

conversions are genuine? >> uh, no, i don't believe they're genuine. in most cases . they're genuine. in most cases. i think it is a cynical ploy to be allowed to stay in our country. and used to game the system, and that there are gullible fools , mainly with, as gullible fools, mainly with, as far as i've seen so far, entirely within the church of england who think they're doing some kind of good by encourage doing this and saving them from having to return to their country. whereas in fact, what they're doing is putting their own parishioners at risk and the other people who live in the united kingdom, that if you allow criminals to stay , the allow criminals to stay, the chances of them committing crime are clearly higher. and in terms of christianity , we i if your of christianity, we i if your soul belongs to the catholic church and you want to convert to it, it is a very, very rigorous process. it takes months and years of, uh, devotion given to the church and if you wanted to do that for

your soul, i would thoroughly encourage it . but if it your soul, i would thoroughly encourage it. but if it is for any kind of , encourage it. but if it is for any kind of, uh, beneficial treatment , it would be heretical i >> -- >> what -_ >> what do you make to that, andy? >> i think, you know, on the bibby stockholm barge, this is, you know, they've had. what is it? 40 people have 30 of they've had this big, uh, you know, awakening on the barge. clearly there's a, there's a preacher amongst their ranks. and i think it's difficult for us to sit here, you know, no knowledge of these individuals. you know, some of them could be genuine, some of them could be genuine, some them genuinely could be. some of them genuinely could be. they could be welcomed into a christian country think, christian country and think, wow, is it for me. wow, this is this is it for me. >> but but also, it shouldn't make any difference to their claim because very, claim because there are very, very the world very few countries in the world that you up as a member that if you turn up as a member of church england, you of the church of england, you are to be tortured or put are going to be tortured or put to death because of that. i agree, and it should therefore be completely be kept completely separate to any they're making. um, any claim they're making. um, which on which should be done on the normal grounds and normal legal grounds and religion shouldn't into religion shouldn't come into it. >> think that's part of >> i think that's that's part of the issue. you know, we've got

this wider asylum, you know, access issue, know, the access issue, you know, the migration process, asylum migration process, the asylum seeking process . it's completely seeking process. it's completely flawed. you know , it barely flawed. you know, it barely works. it barely function . and works. it barely function. and it's just part of a wider failure of this conservative government. you know, we've had five home secretaries in five years. they're clearly not serious about these kind of issues. otherwise they wouldn't they has been they would affect it has been going a very long time going on a very long time and the government going on a very long time and the failures government going on a very long time and the failures of government going on a very long time and the failures of the overnment going on a very long time and the failures of the asylum,nt going on a very long time and the failures of the asylum, the failures of the asylum seeker, the system that that is the asylum system that that is not for purpose . not fit for purpose. >> but if you are refused, you should also be removed. and the case the bbc journalist case of the bbc journalist without appeal ? uh, yeah. you without appeal? uh, yeah. you can appeal from where you end up, but i don't think you should be allowed to appeal from here, that it should be swift and fair justice. justice is only ever effective if it is swift and our system is not. and if you look at the bbc journalist, the african editor who was being a paid expert in asylum cases , uh, paid expert in asylum cases, uh, a lot of the people she was

defending were criminals before the cases were heard. and when they lost, they vanished. that is one of the problems you need to be removed from the country very swiftly after your asylum has been denied. yeah, but all of these deportation patterns, andy, they're blocked. >> it feels like all the twists and turns. you've got armies of lawyers who i suspect making lawyers who i suspect are making quite pounds, um, in cash quite a few pounds, um, in cash off some of these cases. then you've got, for example, let's just say you do manage to get someone onto a plane. then you come into to face face with a load of do gooders on the plane that take upon themselves to that take it upon themselves to get these people deported, taken off only then for off the plane, only for then for it to apparent these it to become apparent that these people a litany , people all have got a litany, kind of, uh, like a rap sheet of previous crimes. >> and i'll criticise the government as much, as much as i can, but i don't think the do gooders is their fault. you know, these protesters, they're entitled to protest whatever. you know, they can be reprimanded courts and

reprimanded by the courts and then to courts. as then leave it to the courts. as far as i'm aware, you know, a lot of them are either exonerated or they do go down. there's not much between, but there's not much in between, but but goes back to wider, but it goes back to that wider, flawed system, know, where but it goes back to that wider, flaw are ;ystem, know, where but it goes back to that wider, flaw are we am, know, where but it goes back to that wider, flaw are we struggling ow, where but it goes back to that wider, flaw are we struggling to. where but it goes back to that wider, flaw are we struggling to getere why are we struggling to get people planes we are people on planes if we are deporting them? you know, they're vanishing. there aren't clear you it's clear records. you know, it's just after just failure after failure after failure of this asylum and migration system that the conservative just conservative government just haven't conservative government just haven'but conservative government just haven' but then how do you police >> so but then how do you police this then? right. because just for the record, believe , for the record, i don't believe, um, that these kind of conversions , in main conversions, um, in the main parts are genuine . conversions, um, in the main parts are genuine. i'm conversions, um, in the main parts are genuine . i'm sure parts are genuine. i'm sure there might be few that are, there might be a few that are, but personally don't. i think but i personally don't. i think it's some kind conveyor belt it's some kind of conveyor belt of in order that of scam in order that people have figured actually, if have figured out. actually, if i say i can remain and say this and i can remain and whatever, but the off chance whatever, but on the off chance that somebody is, um, you know, they've seen the lights all they've seen the lights and all they've seen the lights and all the rest it and they've the rest of it and they've decided to change their entire belief to say, belief system. i've got to say, it wash with me again, it doesn't wash with me again, but anyway, did, because but anyway, if they did, because then the next thing is as well, then the next thing is as well, then people will say, well, i'm 93v- then people will say, well, i'm gay. if i go back to

gay. so if i, if i go back to wherever it is, i'll be persecuted because i'm attracted to sex. persecuted because i'm attracted to sex i persecuted because i'm attracted to sex. i mean, i'm to the same sex. i mean, i'm laughing because it is just laughable. you laughable. but then how do you disprove that case? >> they absolutely already >> they they absolutely already do. and the is being do. and the system is being gamed possible way. gamed in every possible way. there seekers who there are asylum seekers who have pretending have admitted to pretending to be gay in to order be allowed to stay. the bbc journalist i just mentioned, one of the reason that she gave for defending someone's right to stay here was that he had visible tattoos, and in they might think he in somalia they might think he was gay . anyone can go and get was gay. anyone can go and get a tattoo just like anyone seemingly can convert to the church of england. it doesn't mean that it should make any difference to whether you can stay here or not. >> what is this world coming to? ladies and gents, i'll give you the thoughts on that. ladies and gents, i'll give you the anyway,ghts on that. ladies and gents, i'll give you the anyway, todayn that. ladies and gents, i'll give you the anyway, today another well, anyway, today another group, another conservative party group has launched this one popular one called pop con popular conservatism. a chap that was there and she was also there. i'll come back to you in a second. but nigel farage, uh, you were there . i've got to say, you were there. i've got to say, you were there. i've got to say, you seem to be very popular there as well. what did you make

to today? >> oh, i'm very popular, michelle, amongst conservative activists and voters, just not amongst tory mps. and what was interesting was whilst the agenda that liz truss put forward, i agree with, there weren't many conservative members of parliament there , members of parliament there, which all you need to which tells you all you need to know and as at 7:00, know and that as at 7:00, michelle, i'm going to unveil all the rwanda files . i've michelle, i'm going to unveil all the rwanda files. i've had sight of an internal home office document from last year, produced at the same time that rishi launched his stop the boats policy. absolute proving that they knew it wouldn't work. and it simply wasn't going to happen. and you know what? you gave them the last hour have put a poll out showing that amongst 2019 conservative voters , 2019 conservative voters, immigration is now 20 points ahead of the economy in terms of their importance. so popcon great, but i'll tell you what popcorn is about. who runs the conservative party after the next election? i think what i'm going to show tonight will prove why they're going to sink

beneath the electoral waves. >> the rwanda files. there you go. 7:00 here on gb news with nigel farage. nigel, i will be glued and i'll see you there. uh, you are also at this, uh, popcorn today. >> i was indeed. i very strong opinions on this, but i'm going to zip my mouth and hear from you. >> well, first of all, do you think this thing is even needed? >> um, i think it is. there isn't anything close to it currently in the conservative party, mark littlewood, who is leading it, made it excel nationally clear in his introduction that it is not aiming to replicate or replace anything that currently exists . anything that currently exists. it is to fight for democracy . kc it is to fight for democracy. kc for the british people , which for the british people, which has been eroded consistent back to tony blair with the removal of powers from our democratically elected mps and the house of parliament and moved to quangos to legal entities , to international entities, to international bodies handing over rights

guidance from davos , from the guidance from davos, from the world health authority , that world health authority, that this has to be undone . and one this has to be undone. and one of the reasons the conservatives haven't been able to enact anywhere near as many policies of a good and beneficial nature as they had wanted to, is because they are hamstrung and at every step these organisations , ones who have no organisations, ones who have no accountability to the british people whatsoever to try and stop the democratic elected parliament doing what the people want. >> but then one of the chiefs, um , of this is a former dg, um, um, of this is a former dg, um, of the institute of economic affairs, and people will say, well, hang on a second, that one of those quangos that you're referencing, it's not a quango, it's a think tank. >> it has no influence, it has no powers. it is privately funded and it has no official role. so no, it's really not the quangos.i role. so no, it's really not the quangos. i take, for example, ofcom that has really specifically , and it would seem specifically, and it would seem rather personally targeted gb

news. there seems to be an issue amongst the great and the good to stop all sorts of things happening . i think our asylum happening. i think our asylum system , if you look at the system, if you look at the judges who make the rules, once upon a time they were in the house of parliament, it was the law lords who would have decided now it is judges who bow down to european rulings . we need to get european rulings. we need to get our democratic answerability back for the sake of the british people for and the popular good. >> well, there you go . so >> well, there you go. so annunziata was there . this is. annunziata was there. this is. i say i lose count, but i think i've got count. i think it's number six or something. this particular group. um. so i'm going to let you reflect on what you just heard after the break. i'll play you a couple of clips that we've just been hearing about the raison d'etre of this new group, they're hoping new group, what they're hoping to achieve. so i'll to see and achieve. so i'll bnng to see and achieve. so i'll bring into the conversation. bring you into the conversation. and well. so don't and also, andy as well. so don't go anywhere see you in go anywhere and i'll see you in

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radio . radio. >> hello there. i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company till seven alongside me. the former brexit party mep annunziata rees—mogg and the trade unionist andy mcdonald's. right we have just been talking just prior to the break about p0p just prior to the break about pop con and not popcorn. no pop con, the latest of the groups, um, within the tory party. i don't mean to be rude, by the way, when i laugh because i just way, when i laugh because ijust i do just think i feel almost. i think we're on group number six now. on each one is apparently really radical and really different. and, uh, it's apparently one going apparently the one that's going to fix the tory party to fix all of the tory party words. i'll let you be the judge of whether or not you think it will. a little bit will. let's learn a little bit more about it, though, shall we? because uh, just mentioned more about it, though, shall we? becalmarki, just mentioned more about it, though, shall we? becalmark littlewood,entioned more about it, though, shall we? becalmark littlewood, he ioned more about it, though, shall we? becalmark littlewood, he is|ed more about it, though, shall we? becalmark littlewood, he is one there mark littlewood, he is one of chiefs this group. of the chiefs of this group. let's have a little listen to what he was saying about the raison for raison d'etre, if you will, for this group, the vision that we in the popcorn movement share is

there a major there needs to be a major institutional of the institutional overhaul of the british of government, institutional overhaul of the bryow of government, institutional overhaul of the bryou like. of government, if you like. >> system is pretty much >> the system is pretty much figged >> the system is pretty much rigged the moment against rigged at the moment against achieving conservative ends . achieving conservative ends. we've had, what, nearly 14 years of conservative led governments. we need a restoration and a reset of how britain works. >> andy, what do you make of what you just heard there? >> yeah, he talks about 14 years of tory government. they haven't got anything why got anything to do. then why have selected who have they selected someone who was a for minister majority of that actually prime minister that and actually prime minister for of although it for part of that, although it was part of that. was a brief part of that. as their lead spokesman. what about liz talk liz truss? you know, they talk about conservatism . um, about popular conservatism. um, you she's —52% in you know, she's —52% in favorability polls where where's the popularity in this in this movement? why have they chosen a spokesperson who is so unpopular? >> you dispute that that >> but do you dispute that that actually things like tougher immigration laws , um, things immigration laws, um, things like that, that they are popular with the electorate? >> yeah, i'm sure they are. but this, this isn't that, you know, they're talking about pro democracy, talking anti—immigration. democracy, talking anti—immigration . i mean, it's

anti—immigration. i mean, it's the same as the new conservatives, the blue collar conservatives, the blue collar conservatives, the blue collar conservatives, the five families, erg , you know, the families, the erg, you know, the countless other. why countless other. that's why families is a fringe organisation by the left wing to media make it sound like the new york mafia . york mafia. >> it couldn't be less the case. there huge overlap. these there is a huge overlap. these are small groups who want are small groups of mps who want to discuss specific issues amongst themselves and push their ideas and ideals forward, but there are there's massive overlap between within them. i mean, you talk about the erg. well, jacobs and the erg and he's in popcorn and that's all fine . and that it's not that fine. and that it's not that they're all, uh, sitting behind closed doors, planning how to stab the other groups in the back. this is about making the conservative party work for the country so that the country can be its best self, and that , be its best self, and that, surely, is what we all want. >> liz truss wasn't making the country work when she tanked the housing markets in the pound. >> you know, that was the money markets. and i'd go and talk to the davos, the imf, if

the men in davos, the imf, if i were you. were you. >> were you. >> it was her economic statement that caused the money to that caused the money markets to crash. making it work crash. so was she making it work when people had their mortgage offices again, it was offices rescinded again, it was all do with the market. all to do with the bond market. and government taking and it was in government taking an to make a lot of an opportunity to make a lot of money. but if keir starmer was in wouldn't in government, you wouldn't have blamed money markets, blamed it on the money markets, the bond markets you had, said keir economic keir starmer's economic if that's happened, that's what what happened, i would have done. that's what what happened, i wotand ave done. that's what what happened, i wotand ave dorway, i do have to >> and by the way, i do have to remind everyone. i remember keir starmer on a fire question starmer on a quick fire question round. he was asked directly davos westminster? davos or westminster? he answered davos because of the toxic culture around westminster. >> you know is more >> you know davos is a more chilled you know chilled out area. you know westminster increasingly westminster is increasingly toxic. was the toxic. i think that was the justification question. yeah. >> e"- e believe that at >> so do you believe that at home, do you think that actually he was sitting there thinking home, do you think that actually he vlwthh ing there thinking home, do you think that actually he vlwthh workinge thinking home, do you think that actually he vlwthh working environment who which working environment do i davos westminster i prefer? davos or westminster or there's a little or do you think there's a little bit more to it than that one? anyway, interrupted on anyway, i interrupted you on that point. >> i completely agree, and i think there is certainly a very widespread perception, not only think there is certainly a very wi theiread perception, not only think there is certainly a very wi the uk,i perception, not only think there is certainly a very wi the uk, butrception, not only think there is certainly a very wi the uk, butrceyou n, not only think there is certainly a very wi the uk, butrceyou lookt only think there is certainly a very wi the uk, butrceyou look to nly in the uk, but if you look to france, if you look to germany, if you looked at belgium, if you

look to america, to that there is a bunch of international bodies who are demanding countries to run in certain ways that are not to the benefit of the people who live in them. and thatis the people who live in them. and that is very true of net zero. it is very true of immigration, not just here, but across. >> but then why are so many governments then seemingly in the pockets of these people? because just mentioned because i've just mentioned it's not government, not just the current government, i've because are i've just because there are people keir who people like keir starmer who would rather with davos would rather work with davos than british people. than the british people. >> tell me, jacob >> so you tell me, jacob rees—mogg, know your rees—mogg, i know he's your brother. paint you with brother. i won't paint you with the he is a face the same brush, but he is a face of popcorn movement. whilst of the popcorn movement. whilst we're on popcorn, know, he we're on popcorn, you know, he was secretary for was business secretary for a short a short time, but he was business secretary do you think short a short time, but he was blhisess secretary do you think short a short time, but he was blhisess sechady do you think short a short time, but he was blhisess sechad lasted ou think short a short time, but he was blhisess sechad lasted longerk if his tenure had lasted longer he worked with the he wouldn't have worked with the wef world economic forum wef with world economic forum based davos? wef with world economic forum basid davos? wef with world economic forum basi don't avos? wef with world economic forum basi don't think he would be >> i don't think he would be saying this if he thought that was good but do you was a good idea, but do you think he would have worked with them, with them and them, working with them and doing very doing what they wanted to? very different actually different things and actually what as a what we have been doing as a

country what most countries country and what most countries around the world have been doing, kowtowing to every doing, is kowtowing to every whim international whim of these international bodies. is on bodies. and that is true on vaccine issues. it is true on covid response. it is true on financial and it is financial markets and it is very, and deep. very, very widespread and deep. but also obviously on the but it's also obviously on the legal side of our immigration debate . debate. >> but do you think then >> but then do you think then yet another group moves us closer that or , or in terms closer to that or, or in terms of like the tories, because nigel farage made a good point there. he basically said, look what this is all about. ultimately is who's going run what this is all about. ultitoryly is who's going run what this is all about. ulti tory partynho's going run what this is all about. ulti tory party after going run what this is all about. ulti tory party after goirnext run the tory party after the next election. is is thisjust election. is it is this just basically a load of people jostling to get into that powerful position being the powerful position of being the tory i mean, and he's tory leader? i mean, and he's kindly pointed he won't tory leader? i mean, and he's kindljme inted he won't tory leader? i mean, and he's kindljmeint

worked, and how to improve, and make sure that they can rescue our country next time round . it our country next time round. it is regrouping. it is going to need reshaping, but what we want the best ideas and the most input from as many voices as possible for that and having lots of groups that are debating lots of groups that are debating lots of groups that are debating lots of issues is very beneficial to all of us. >> but but gb news, you know, it's great. i agree that having lots of people involved is great. you know, ideas are always excellent. but even, you know, gb news own nigel farage said just then, you know, not many tory mps were there. so i don't understand this. it was if no tory, if not many tory mps were no tory, if not many tory mps werit's not for tory mps. this >> it's not for tory mps. this is a grassroots movement. they could sold ticket could have sold every ticket there over and it is there ten times over and it is to make sure that the british people are represented , rented, people are represented, rented, not just in parliament but in the policies that make them that affect every aspect of our lives . and it's how to change all the institutions that determine we've got a nanny state. we've

got restrictions on x, y and z, we've got higher costs of living , and we need to have become laws of certain targets and certain rules. it's how to turn all of that around so that the british economy, the british people, can thrive . don't you think? >> it's a bit weird, though, that the people are kind of sitting here saying that the government machine is broken are the same ones that have actually had power in this country for quite a few now. when quite a few years now. and when we about things like, you we talk about things like, you know, got to get back to know, we've got to get back to conservative values and all the rest of it, well, it's the conservatives not, conservatives that have not, um, been conservative been true to conservative values, the notion values, like the whole notion of the increased cost living. the increased cost of living. you make you could make you could make you could make sweeping tax cuts. now that would help costs of would help people's costs of living. know, this would help people's costs of living. notion know, this would help people's costs of living. notion that now, this this whole notion that we have this high inflation and etc. it was because in large part to because in, in large part due to government decisions, owns a lot of predate it, even the of which predate it, even the conservatives you go conservatives that if you go back to the 2000 and a lot of rights of parliament were removed, they are now not

changeable and that is what we have to fight . where do you sit have to fight. where do you sit on it all? everybody is there any new group, quite frankly, that could convince you to stay with the tories? or perhaps even turn to them for the first time? also as well? will you actually vote next election? vote at the next election? because convinced, because i, i'm convinced, actually, many people because i, i'm convinced, actu actually many people because i, i'm convinced, actu actually sit many people because i, i'm convinced, actu actually sit this1y people because i, i'm convinced, actu actually sit this onezople because i, i'm convinced, actu actually sit this one oute will actually sit this one out or their ballot paper or spoil their ballot paper because actually they sit there and big fat none of the and say a big fat none of the above. are you one of those people or not? after the break, bad news for you guys . if you're bad news for you guys. if you're sitting there thinking, oh, you know, be able retire know, i might be able to retire in my is, uh , apparently 71 in my 60s is, uh, apparently 71 is age that is being is the age that is being floated, uh, around 2050. that will be you'll have to work to your 70s. what do you make to that? i'll see you in two.

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till seven. the former brexit party mep anas sarwar rees—mogg keeps me company, as does the trade unionist andy mcdonald. my viewer richard says, can you just ask annunciato will she ever join the reform party? everjoin the reform party? >> uh, no. >> uh, no. >> i left the conservative party to the brexit party with to join the brexit party with nigel and richard tice as nigel farage and richard tice as its leaders, and i felt that got a job done . i have returned to a job done. i have returned to the conservative party some years ago before the last election and i'm afraid to say i don't buy what reform are selling. don't you? >> that's interesting . do you >> that's interesting. do you buy what reform is selling? i was going to talk to you about pension age, but you know what? i might just talk to you about reform and you guys into conversation. >> reform uk. think there are >> reform uk. i think there are they're very complicated they're a very complicated party. i think today's announcement, nigel announcement, you know, nigel saying on the saying that he's focusing on the us quite big saying that he's focusing on the us richard quite big saying that he's focusing on the us richard tice quite big saying that he's focusing on the us richard tice leaderite big saying that he's focusing on the us richard tice leader of big for richard tice leader of reform you know he reform because you know since he took over it's been this kind of or will nigel come back will he not. and know this not. will he. and you know this kind almost as as kind of almost as close as i think we'll get to a definitive answer of richard tice is going

to reform into the to be leading reform into the next general election. but i think reform are acting very bizarrely. know, they've put bizarrely. you know, they've put simon danczuk up as their candidate rochdale. candidate in rochdale. i think that's so weird. you know, the former for the area, you former mp for the area, you know, he lost labour know, he lost the labour nomination because sexted nomination because he sexted a 17 old girl. think 17 year old girl. and i think why would put that that why would you put that that candidate an that's candidate up in an area that's just recovered from a grooming scandal? >> but i'm just i'm intrigued because i am convinced that there this whole notion there will be this whole notion of swathe of people of this vast swathe of people that say none of the above at the election, think the next election, i think we're going low turnout. >> i really do, and i know many people who are definitely in that what's the point? that category. what's the point? nothing changes. no listens nothing changes. no one listens to think our to to us. i think it's ourjob to overcome that. and i would much rather people voted for parties. i believe than that i don't believe in than that they stayed at and they just stayed at home and gave they just stayed at home and gavi think. i think we'll have >> i think. i think we'll have a big in independence. you big rise in independence. you know, look at lee anderson, know, you look at lee anderson, his constituency at the ashfield independents they independents are huge. they run the the the local council. they the official opposition on nottinghamshire council. official opposition on nottiriseamshire council. official opposition on nottirise of shire council. official opposition on nottirise of local, council. official opposition on nottirise of local, independent,. this rise of local, independent, genuinely independent genuinely local independent parties i will be quite parties i think will be quite big this upcoming general

election. >> i've run a genuine >> i've run as a genuine independent candidate in my hometown of hull , and it's hometown of hull, and it's really hard for independent to cut through because you are immediately disadvantaged, because you go into an election and you as like the underdog, the lay person , you are fighting the lay person, you are fighting against these machines and people don't necessarily understand , or why would you understand, or why would you have not been part of it? these machines, like have huge machines, like they have huge databases. they know where every voter is. they know what's what. they have these vast swathes of volunteers. it's really hard, i think, independents , unless think, for independents, unless you're an you're campaigning on quite an intense issue. um, don't intense local issue. um, i don't know . have you got an know. have you got an independent at your next election? would you ever consider going independent? david i've voted whole david says, i've voted my whole life around i'm life, and this time around i'm thinking about bothering the thinking about not bothering the tory party and the labour party are exactly the same. i always think it's interesting . a think it's interesting. a conversation proportional conversation about proportional represent station. then. would that feel , um, represent station. then. would that feel, um, more that make you feel, um, more like your vote mattered? because often i think that is the notion that you feel, um, that it isn't

, um, counting for anything. david says basically . what about david says basically. what about we're always talking about the tories failing in the eu. why is no one talking about layer failing in wales , he asks. um, failing in wales, he asks. um, also jo as well. who's this helen? she says i will absolutely vote conservative at the next election and i will do whatever i can to help rebuild the party in a winning into a winning successful party. next time , um, around. uh, is that time, um, around. uh, is that your view? a topic i want to touch on you. i'll let you think about it tonight. uh, stay at retirement age up to 71. perhaps is that something that you would back or not? we'll get into that one tomorrow. don't forget, i mentioned start of the mentioned at the start of the program this coming program monday. this coming monday, gb news has got an audience with the prime minister for you . this is about you for you. this is about you taking on the prime minister to task. head to head. your questions directly to him. get your phone out. scan that code and come and join us. i'll be there, but that's all i've got time for. thanks panel. thanks. you at home? do not go anywhere.

nigel farage is up next. have a good night. night >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. i'm alex deakin . tonight some snowy deakin. tonight some snowy weather across northern scotland and some rain across the south. that'll slowly be clearing by dawn from this weather front that's pushing its way steadily southwards with set of weather fronts really. and it's introducing the colder air further north. it's been very windy and snowy across shetland today. the snow showers easing , today. the snow showers easing, the winds easing, but then more sleet and snow comes in across the highlands and the western isles through the night could turn pretty icy as turn things pretty icy here as well. further south it'll be rain that sinks its way across south wales and southern england, keeping the temperatures up here. but we'll still be a colder night the last night. certainly further night. certainly colder further north extensive north with a fairly extensive frost from northern england

northwards. that's why it could be be a few be icy. it could be a few flurries central flurries through the central belt, but that band of sleet and snow is tending ease off as snow is tending to ease off as we go through the morning. more snow northern snow showers in northern scotland day. scotland through the day. the patchy the south making patchy rain in the south making for but it should for a grey start, but it should clear for many it's clear away for and many it's a dry and a bright day tomorrow. actually with decent spells actually with some decent spells of it is going to of sunshine, but it is going to be certainly than be cold, certainly colder than recent days in the south. the single a high and with single digits as a high and with the cold air in place and more wet weather pushing north on thursday, greater some thursday, a greater risk of some snow northern parts snow over wales, northern parts of northern of the midlands, northern england and northern ireland. a lot but even some lot on the hills, but even some at low levels that could cause some disruption. still a bit of uncertainty about the detail. some disruption. still a bit of uncertouty about the detail. some disruption. still a bit of uncert out the out the detail. some disruption. still a bit of uncert out the latest; detail. some disruption. still a bit of uncert out the latest warning on check out the latest warning on the met office website . the met office website. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers . as sponsors of up. boxt boilers. as sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good evening. prince harry arrives from the west coast of america but doesn't stay very long. >> the royal rapprochement appears not to have happened . appears not to have happened. and i have got for you tonight the rwanda files. yes, i have seen private documents from inside the home office last year that show at the very moment rishi sunak was telling us he would stop the boats. the home office that he wouldn't and office knew that he wouldn't and he couldn't. why is the prime minister deceive us? minister seeking to deceive us? popcorn. yes. liz truss launched it today. i was there. i'll give you my opinion and a stasi style investigation into a newcastle united football fan . her united football fan. her political views are unacceptable and she's been banned from watching the team she loves. she and toby young from the free speech union join me in the studio and we ask, what on earth are the premier league up to? but before all of that, in a very packed show, let's get