is that the king has tonight is that the king has arrived at the sandringham estate in norfolk, having left london this afternoon . king london this afternoon. king charles and queen camilla, both on that left on the helicopter that left buckingham palace earlier today after meeting prince harry at clarence house, who had just flown in from la. the duke of sussex, spending around 30 to 45 minutes with his father. and it became apparent today that prince william, he says, has no plans to meet his brother. while harry is in the uk. plans to meet his brother. while harry is in the uk . we harry is in the uk. we understand the king personally told both his sons about his cancer diagnosis. this told both his sons about his cancer diagnosis . this before cancer diagnosis. this before buckingham palace made that announcement publicly last night . palace officials hoping the king's openness about the news will help others whose lives have been affected by cancer . have been affected by cancer. now also in the news today, more precise details have been released about the last known movements of chemical attack. suspect abdul ezedi before he went on the run, the met police said today. the former asylum seeker walked past the unilever building near blackfriars, then

headed towards victoria and bakhmut in central london, about a mile away. a £20,000 reward still being offered to anyone with any information that leads to his arrest. he with any information that leads to his arrest . he suspected of to his arrest. he suspected of attacking a woman with a corrosive substance, which could mean she has life changing injuries , is in the united injuries, is in the united states. a court has ruled that donald trump is not immune to charges that he plotted to overturn the 2020 us election . overturn the 2020 us election. that means the former president is now one step away from a criminal trial, a move which would be unprecedented in american political history . would be unprecedented in american political history. his lawyers had argued that former presidents can't be prosecuted for official actions, but a panel of judges has now disagreed , and mr trump is disagreed, and mr trump is likely to appeal. if he were to win the next election, he could seek to pardon himself . hear liz seek to pardon himself. hear liz truss says democracy has become unpopular as she unveiled a new group aimed at boosting conservative values . the popular

conservative values. the popular conservatives movement , or pop conservatives movement, or pop con, aims to take on what the former prime minister called left wing extremists. the lib dems accused some of those present today at the launch of economic vandalism . but mistrust economic vandalism. but mistrust told gb news she thinks left wing ideas have gone too far , wing ideas have gone too far, and a 46 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of malicious communications following reports of an abusive and threatening phone call to a conservative mps. london office. mike freer announced his decision to quit politics last week, telling gp news he feared for his safety. the justice minister has been the target of several death threats, as well as an arson attack on his finchley and golders green constituency office. and finally, some political news to really sink your teeth into a set of dentures. once worn by winston churchill is up for auction. the false teeth were worn by the former prime minister during many of his most famous speeches and were designed, we're told, to protect his natural lisp. they go under

the hammer in cheltenham with an expected price of around £8,000 on the ticket . if you'd like to on the ticket. if you'd like to sign up for the latest gb news alerts, do scan the qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news. com slash alerts. good evening. >> well, prince harry did come very quickly from the west coast of america , landed at heathrow, of america, landed at heathrow, made his way to the palace . but made his way to the palace. but it would appear he wasn't really there for very long before the king headed off to sandringham . king headed off to sandringham. to get the full details, we're joined by cameron walker, gb news royal correspondent , news royal correspondent, outside buckingham palace . outside buckingham palace. cameron, it would appear it was a very, very short visit and then the king left . yes then the king left. yes surprisingly short visit. >> nigel. it was a very busy day here in central london. prince harry landed at heathrow airport around lunchtime. he was very

quickly whisked off to the vip windsor suite, where he was put into a black suv with a police escort and driven to central london. he arrived at clarence house at 2.40 2 pm. and then, as you say, spent a very short amount of time with the king. only 45 minutes. and bearing in mind he's just been on an 11 hour flight to spend time with his father, who has been diagnosed with cancer. i think to most people it appears to be very short . uh, to most people it appears to be very short. uh, indeed. and then as you say, he left clarence house and the king left clarence house and the king left clarence house shortly after, accompanied by the queen, and then flew in a helicopter from buckingham helicopter from the buckingham palace to sandringham. no palace garden to sandringham. no word on where, exactly prince harry has gone. but as for prince william, a source close to has told me that there to him has told me that there are at for all prince are no plans at for all prince william and prince harry to meet, which suggests to me that their relationship is still incredibly rocky. yes, the king did meet with his youngest son, which suggests there is some kind of olive branch. there is some kind of bond between them.

but again, a question. it but again, a big question. it was a very, very short meeting in deed. um, the prince of wales, as i said, have no plans. but another big question is where is prince harry staying tonight? he was evicted from frogmore cottage by the crown estate following his memoir being and being released. spare and there's no obvious royal residence , official royal residence, official royal residence, official royal residence for him left in the uk. so has he got an official invite from a member of the royal family stay with them? royal family to stay with them? no yet. no details yet. >> cameron. thank you very much indeed.i >> cameron. thank you very much indeed. i mean, it could be folks that maybe he's gone straight back to heathrow airport, well i'm airport, i don't know. well i'm joined by tom bower, rob offer, journalist and sharp eyed observer of these matters . quite observer of these matters. quite extraordinary, isn't it ? extraordinary, isn't it? >> well, i was always suspicious. i mean, yesterday when it was all announced, i immediately said just immediately said that i just didn't believe there was reconciliation way. and reconciliation on the way. and i really it was harry really think it was harry looking of self looking for a sort of self promotion on a junket to somehow raise his profile. >> that's a very cynical thing to say. >> i'm a cynic and a realist. i don't think harry, um, ever

thought he was going to have reconciliation here because he had for forgiveness. i had to beg for forgiveness. i don't believe he the don't even believe he met the queen. i'm that queen queen. i'm sure that queen camilla stayed well out of the way, having absorbed the most dreadful insults from harry in his book. she being, to according harry, a vicious person, and of course, william didn't want to me, or kate wanted meet so i wouldn't wanted meet harry, so i wouldn't be surprised if he's on his way back. if not tonight, then tomorrow. got tomorrow. i think he's got enough could enough place where he could stay. there's rooms in stay. there's enough rooms in clarence house and buckingham palace they'll give clarence house and buckingham palaae they'll give clarence house and buckingham palaa sleepingiey'll give clarence house and buckingham palaa sleeping bagl give clarence house and buckingham palaa sleeping bag where|ive clarence house and buckingham palaa sleeping bag where he can him a sleeping bag where he can kip sleeping btec. kip down sleeping btec. >> image . i think you >> what an image. i think you know, we were saying last night that family crises can bring people back together who've had fallout outs, who appear to be irreconcilable people, but but as you say, for forgiveness to come from the queen and from william and kate, he needs to apologise, doesn't he? >> well, he'd have to more than apologise. i mean, he has really been the source of the most

dreadful lies and the dreadful, most dreadful treachery and disloyalty. so the idea and for money, i mean, he did it all for money, i mean, he did it all for money and for someone who then only two weeks ago went to jamaica and rattled a lot of old skeletons there and failed to offer his father any good wishes. when the prostate diagnosis was first made, which is two weeks ago. so i was always suspicious about this quick dash across the atlantic. it was all about harry wanting to position himself and always remember one thing that his wife , the blessed meghan, is a person who gives no quarter in reconciliation. her father is lying ill in mexico. she wouldn't dream of going and saying to him, let's make that is a and there's no way that harry is going to disobey the duchess . duchess. >> now, when it comes to meghan, as you say, with her father, you can see a pattern of behaviour here. and i understand that tom talking about the king. i mean, obviously goes for in obviously he goes for in a relatively routine , been

relatively routine, been prostrate, enlarged procedure of some kind. we don't know exactly what it was and something else gets discovered. what interested me was the openness with which he talked about the prostate. i did say on this show, do we really need to know these details? nigel? really? don't be so old fashioned. actually, the king saying this makes it very helpful. encourage other men with problems come forward. helpful. encourage other men with i. roblems come forward. helpful. encourage other men with i. roblen it come forward. helpful. encourage other men with i. robleni bought e forward. helpful. encourage other men with i. robleni bought into ward. helpful. encourage other men with i. robleni bought into that. helpful. encourage other men with i. robleni bought into that . and i. okay, i bought into that. but that statement last night actually left us, i thought, with more than with more questions than answers. know what answers. we don't know what cancerit answers. we don't know what cancer it is. we don't know what stage it's at. although the prime minister this morning sort of it might have been of hinting it might have been caught at stage , we don't caught at early stage, we don't even know what treatment he's having. and today we see having. and then today we see him london in him leaving london in a helicopter heading up to sandringham. have you got any idea what's going on? well, i think what's going on is that the king? >> i'm speculating, but the king is has always is a great fan. has always promoter of alternative medicine . for . he would not be one for chemotherapy. he's always argued against is a great against it. he is a great believer in natural herbs and

pofions believer in natural herbs and potions and things like that. so my guess is that at the moment he's taking advice from a man called michael who he's called michael dixon, who he's championed years , who championed for many years, who is headed his own. the is who headed his own. the king's natural alternative medicine institute. uh discredited by many people . but discredited by many people. but the king is a great believer in it, and i, i was always last night. i was very surprised that people kept on saying, well, he's going to have chemotherapy or radiation or the rest of it. you know, he doesn't believe in it. he not believe in it. it. he does not believe in it. it's i find it's a risk. it's a risk. i find it's a risk. and i think going to sandringham is where he to take these is where he wants to take these alternative medicines. interesting in quiet ways. >> interesting of thought. >> interesting line of thought. and agree with me that at and do you agree with me that at some going have to some point he's going to have to sayi think he is, but i think he >> i think he is, but i think he had no alternative but to disclose that he had a problem because disappeared because he would a disappeared and was in hospital. it and b he was in hospital. it would leaked, someone would have leaked, someone would have a newspaper and have sold it to a newspaper and a cancellation of public engagement. >> no, i get that. the point i'm making is having so open

making is having been so open initially the problem initially about what the problem was it's cancer and was, now we know it's cancer and that's all we know. don't you think that the sort of just speculation is going reach speculation is going to reach a level over the next days, level over the next few days, but have tell us don't but they have to tell us don't actually, we don't actually, because we don't speculate what kate, the speculate anymore what kate, the princess of wales, or has. princess of wales, had or has. >> it dies down. dies >> and it dies down. it dies down and rightly so. i mean, there many people who know there are many people who know what had and one leaves what kate has had and one leaves it at that. there's no reason to broadcast it. and the same with the just hope that he the king. i just hope that he recovers pretty speedily. i'm just worried the alternative medicine won't provide the cure. which which which natural? which conventional medicine would do? no. >> well, that's going to be that aspect is going to be, as you say, he's been a very keen advocate of this for decades. that's going very that's going to be very interesting. tom is rotten interesting. and tom is rotten luck, it? i mean, the luck, isn't it? i mean, the bloke 70 years. bloke waits 70 years. absolutely. we're months absolutely. and we're 18 months in we are. it's in or whatever we are. it's worse than that. >> it's a crossroads for >> i mean, it's a crossroads for the monarchy. i mean, here was a man who, with all his foibles and rest of it, actually and all the rest of it, actually could contributed might could have contributed and might still to hope to still well contribute to hope to a era. and a transition. but

a new era. and a transition. but he's at a crossroads. he's not only got problem of the only got the problem of the family but also his family break up, but also his health, hard for health, and it's very hard for him to impose his views not only in in the in england but in the commonwealth. i mean, his trips to canada and new zealand and australia to critical australia were to critical shoring monarchy, australia were to critical sh

whether the opening of whether they get the opening of the the by the, by the of the hall by the, by a member royal family or member of the royal family or not, think, by the way, not, i think, by the way, there'll enough thank there'll be enough and thank goodness enough. and of goodness there's enough. and of course, william the course, kate and william are the greatest ambassadors for britain and monarchy is. so i and the monarchy there is. so i think should be optimistic. think we should be optimistic. we king recovers we just hope the king recovers and, uh, takes proper medical advice. >> well, as i say, that point is going to be very. >> we can bid farewell to harry. >> we can bid farewell to harry. >> it looks like. no, it looks like it a final thought, tom. yeah, it was a very difficult job to come to the throne after the. i mean, extraordinary 70 years, no scandal. charles. uh, no problem . i mean, she did an no problem. i mean, she did an amazing job, and we all know that. how has he done so far? >> well, i think he's been okay. i think he was given a very difficult task. and he has not, as it is, imposed himself on us because to follow the queen was pretty difficult, if not impossible. but i think now is hampered him and i think that the foreign trips and various things which he could have done were now going to be delayed.

and i think that's for his point of view, is a tragedy, because he really did want to bring in a whole new era, and that is now a question mark and bad news for the commonwealth as well. >> absolutely. tom bower, thank you indeed. well, some you very much indeed. well, some interesting there from interesting thoughts there from tom. find out more tom. we'll find out more about alternative medicines and therapies , no doubt, the therapies, no doubt, over the next weeks months . in next weeks and months. in a moment i will tell you what the home was saying home office was saying internally . at same time, internally. at the same time, the prime was telling the prime minister was telling us the boats and us he'd stopped the boats and popcorn. yes, liz truss launches it today. what does it all mean? all of that in just a moment

radio. >> well, there's no doubting in my mind the sincerity of liz truss. it may well have been a very, very short premiership. it may have ended very badly. but she is to prepared stand up and fight for the ideas she believes

in. here. she was earlier on today launching pop con. yes, popular concert . today launching pop con. yes, popular concert. um, one of the problems we have is though, we've got a conservative government what we're seeing in our schools , in our our schools, in our universities, in our corporate sector is the spreading of wokery of left wing ideas . wokery of left wing ideas. >> people of britain want us to deal with the real issues immigration is too high. the government's too big. taxes are too high. but what we constantly hearis too high. but what we constantly hear is the left. so popcon is about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging that. it's about challenging ing the left wing orthodoxy and making it positive to be a conservative. >> well, liz truss was talking there to christopher hope. gb news is political editor. i mean, she was very upbeat and she had a big audience of a few hundred people. >> what including you know, we're going to come back to me in a moment. >> uh, me being there, i really did cause a bit of a stir. i, i

agree with a lot of what she said and what jacob rees—mogg said and what jacob rees—mogg said . they talked about the fact said. they talked about the fact that power had gone from parliament to judges to quangos. i fully understood all of that. but what is popcorn? what's it? what's it going to do? >> yes, it was , it wasn't the >> yes, it was, it wasn't the damp squib we all thought it might be. for me, it felt like it was some tories on the right of the party, trying to get the centre to listen to them. they've lost to other braverman from the top, from top, uh, from the top, from the top, uh, top drawer the government. top drawer of the government. they've esther mcvey. maybe they've got esther mcvey. maybe lee rowley. who's he? housing minister. but really, who else can they look towards? so, as even can they look towards? so, as ever, with the party, if no ever, with the tory party, if no one's listening they one's listening to them, they form start shouting form a group and start shouting loudly. that's popcorn is. loudly. that's what popcorn is. but what's interesting but also what's interesting about grassroots about it is it's a grassroots idea . they're talking to pcs , idea. they're talking to pcs, prospective candidates for the next . when they spoke next election. when they spoke from the stage, someone called next election. when they spoke from tifraser. e, someone called next election. when they spoke from tifraser.e,think�*one called next election. when they spoke from tifraser.e,think it|e called next election. when they spoke from tifraser.e,think it was lled mhairi fraser. i think it was gave a good speech. it wasn't very clear to me. >> i mean, were they asking candidates to sign a pledge? no, it wasn't very clear. >> there's out in june.

>> there's a book out in june. >> there's a book out in june. >> i mean, there no call to >> i mean, there was no call to action. there call action. there was no call because they're not sure what to call for afterwards. >> reveal to you 70 people >> i can reveal to you 70 people gathered for a private drinks at jacob rees—mogg's house, tory jacob rees—mogg's house, 30 tory mps, who jacob rees—mogg's house, 30 tory mps, in who jacob rees—mogg's house, 30 tory mps, in the who jacob rees—mogg's house, 30 tory mps, in the hall who jacob rees—mogg's house, 30 tory mps, in the hall with who jacob rees—mogg's house, 30 tory mps, in the hall with us who jacob rees—mogg's house, 30 tory mps, in the hall with us were /ho in the in the hall with us were all that was there, but 30 but 30 there behind the closed doors. they raised lots of money for group. will it do for this group. what will it do with money for me it's all with the money for me it's all about future and probably about the future and probably the election, the future. after the election, i around the cheap i looked around in the cheap seats were. nigel, seats where we were. nigel, i saw david cantini, a former aide to boris johnson. he's been involved with tory politics for 30 years. i saw john stratford, a guy who's redraughted the tory constitution. saw donors, lord constitution. i saw donors, lord michael ashcroft, you know him very we'll very well, nick. candy. we'll come on to him in a minute. i saw people there who can actually support and relaunch a broken tory party, and i wonder whether that was what we're looking the looking at. this is the beginning for beginning of the planning for the post—election party. the post—election tory party. i was with my news was there partly with my gb news hat on, but i was also there because in ideas , because i'm interested in ideas, i genuinely am. >> that's left the >> that's why i left the conservative party all those

years and joined ukip. also. years ago and joined ukip. also. i because, well, there i was there because, well, there was bit of nuisance was quite a bit of nuisance value, i suppose, me, value, i suppose, for me, turning chris hope just turning up what chris hope just said right. this wasn't about said is right. this wasn't about what before next what happens before the next election. what election. it was about what happens the election . happens after the next election. and some conservatives have great fears for the future. here was tobias ellwood talking to gb news this afternoon. >> he's right wing tories. they look at their government . they look at their government. they don't really recognise many people their persuasion in people from their persuasion in it. so they formed the pop cons to that for them. and to do that for them. yeah. and this problem of where this is the problem of where we're heading is because can we're heading is because i can tell message build on tell you the message build on your and that rile you your hate and that can rile you up, get your anger going, and then for me. then you'll vote for me. >> but it going to take the >> but is it going to take the country anywhere? oh, no it won't. that other won't. we've seen that in other parts world. we don't parts of the world. we don't want to happen here. what want that to happen here. what we'll is party fragment we'll see is our party fragment between the light blue the between the light blue and the dark worst case scenario, dark blue. worst case scenario, we'll farage ending up we'll see nigel farage ending up as our because as leader of our party because our base like that. our base will like that. >> my interviews today , >> wasn't my interviews today, but of course, there is thought, isn't there, that reform i mean,

basically what they said from the platform today. >> i mean , albeit immigration >> i mean, albeit immigration barely got mentioned, but what they said in their pamphlet said to well, if i believed in to me, well, if i believed in those things, vote reform at those things, i'd vote reform at the election. there is the next election. so there is this and probably this discussion and probably tory, those ideas were tory, because those ideas were really sunak were really what rishi sunak were he in the audience in that in the audience believed in that interview tobias ellwood? >> his e his wi- >> he said his idea is to just take away the choice of the next leader from the from the grassroots, give all to the mps. and that's what i thought was extraordinary. may god help us if say, we might get if they had a say, we might get nigel farage as leader. >> i hate these people. >> i mean, i hate these people. they don't wash enough. they don't wash often enough. i mean, he didn't he's not hating, man, but he didn't. arrogance. >> want you as their >> they don't want you as their leader. they leader. they don't want they don't their own grassroots don't want their own grassroots to opinion. don't want their own grassroots to i opinion. don't want their own grassroots to i was opinion. don't want their own grassroots to i was in)pinion. don't want their own grassroots to i was in iowa,�*|. don't want their own grassroots to i was in iowa, chris, the >> i was in iowa, chris, the other week. yeah. where the grassroots voted for donald trump, though the trump, even though the republican iowa republican party in iowa wanted ron kind ron desantis. he's kind of saying happen saying that shouldn't happen here. the event was all >> well, the event was all i think about delivering back to 2016. that was about giving moving from brussels to moving power from brussels to

london, giving power to mps and officials . if they want to mess officials. if they want to mess it that's on them. bring a it up, that's on them. bring a new lot in and brexit in that sense, was a neutral idea. like the weather. it rains, it pours. put coat on or not. don't put a coat on or not. don't blame brexit for people's foibles failure to deliver foibles and failure to deliver on promise was. on what the promise was. >> lots of great interviews >> now lots of great interviews that hope. that you did today, chris hope. >> one was a real surprise . >> but one was a real surprise. now she a pop singer , a now she was a pop singer, a model, i mean an incredible me. i mean, holly valance was an incredibly famous star of neighbours. incredibly famous star of neigimean, i grew up watching >> i mean, i grew up watching your neighbours. yeah. >> i singles and all >> and i had singles and all the rest it. rest of it. >> and i know holly and she's become an incredibly private person. think she's done person. i don't think she's done any media interviews for years. and yes , my charm must have and yet, yes, my charm must have won over and farage won her over and nigel farage have at holly valance have a look at holly valance talking chris obe popcorn. talking to chris obe popcorn. >> and with me now is holly candy, who viewers might remember valance from remember as holly valance from neighbours pop star to neighbours and a pop star to holly , we're here to this holly, we're here to this popcorn launch. why are you here? i actually got it mixed up. >> i thought it was a pop music

convention. no i'm a citizen like everyone else here who's concerned about the way things are going in the country. uh, many things worry and bother me with two little children to bnng with two little children to bring up and what they might inherit. so i want to come and listen to ideas , good ideas . listen to ideas, good ideas. >> well, well done you for getting to her speak. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> and there's more on gb news website. and the twitter account. she said that she is stuck by the insanity of net zero regulations impose themselves on people's lives. she backed out a colleague on gb news, jacob rees—mogg, to be prime not you. nigel prime minister, not you. nigel farage sorry that. she farage sorry about that. she also said, maybe jokingly, a bit . everyone starts as a leftie and they grow up and they forget about all that. whatever it is. uh, maybe , maybe joke, uh, maybe, maybe as a joke, i think. i think it was interesting to hear her speak and get a new and interesting to get a new voice yeah. voice in politics. yeah. >> gb news. com for the full holly interview. one holly valance interview. one last thought peter. last final thought, peter. polling out about an hour and a half ago from yougov asking 2019

conservative voters. the people that gave them an 80 seat majority. what their biggest priorities were and immigration was now 20% higher than the economy because they they can't control the borders. >> why can't they? that's net migration . why they're allowing migration. why they're allowing so many to come to in overwhelm some communities in this country . and can't they deal with . and why can't they deal with the or kind of the 30,000 or so, the kind of who are arriving here legally and put up in hotels? it's and being put up in hotels? it's and being put up in hotels? it's a problem. i do think. well, rishi sunak tells he gets it. rishi sunak tells us he gets it. he to get these flights he wants to get these flights off. he's hoping it might work. that's all he's we'll that's all he's got. we'll hear more monday by the way, i've more on monday by the way, i've got he's he's facing got to say he's he's he's facing our viewers. our listeners. yeah unedited. >> i want to remind you all that next monday live at 8 pm, the prime minister rishi sunak, will take part in a special people's forum here live on gb news. and over the course of the hour, he's going to take questions directly from you. the great british public. now if you want to be there, you know what to do. gb news dot com forward

slash pm gbnews.com forward slash pm gbnews.com forward slash pm. it's going to be held up somewhere in the north—east of england. i suspect it'll be very heavily oversubscribed . very heavily oversubscribed. >> yes. and i should say we have noidea >> yes. and i should say we have no idea what it'll be very dangerous time for the pm. one hour of unfiltered questions. it could be anything could happen . could be anything could happen. you must in and go if you you must tune in and go if you can. well i'll tell you what. >> for him, actually. yeah. >> good for him, actually. yeah. i mean, let's say something nice about credit, about it. yeah. to his credit, good for. absolutely for turning about it. yeah. to his credit, go

radio. >> well, that yougov poll that we saw with him last hour and a half is no surprise. this is

becoming the biggest issue in the country. the massive explosion in the population is damaging the quality of life of virtually everyone living in this country. yes, i really mean that. but angers people, that. but what angers people, even more is that visual imagery of the traffickers putting people on those small boats crossing the channel, 91% of those that come are males 78% that come our young males. i have filmed for gb news them throwing their iphones, their passport into the english channel. we've no idea who's coming into the country , and i coming into the country, and i believe it poses a national security risk. now, the prime minister obviously knows this as well, is why on the 7th of well, which is why on the 7th of march last year, he said this. >> that is why today we are introducing legislation to make clear that if you come here illegally, you can claim asylum. you can't benefit from our modern slavery protections. you can't make spurious human rights claims and you can't stay. can't make spurious human rights claims and you can't stay . we claims and you can't stay. we will detain those who come here

illegally and then remove them in weeks , either to their own in weeks, either to their own country , if it is safe to do so, country, if it is safe to do so, or to a safe third country like rwanda . dead simple. rwanda. dead simple. >> you cross the english channel by boat. we will detain you , and by boat. we will detain you, and shortly thereafter we will deport you. you will not be able to stay. it was perhaps his tony abbott moment because that's pretty much what the australian prime minister said all those years ago. difference was tony abbott meant it. i don't believe the prime minister did. and here's why i've had sight of an internal home office document from pretty much the same time. i'm going to call it the rwanda files . i'm i'm going to call it the rwanda files. i'm going to give you the details of this over the course of the next few days. but this is what the internal home office report tells us. it tells us that the united kingdom's detained in capacity is limited

to just 1000 beds. there's the prime minister saying he will be detained actually on the busiest days. a couple of summers ago, more than a thousand a day were coming. so he might have been able to detain one day's worth. yet he told us that everybody would be detained. that just 12% of illegal arrivals would be removed each year in. and i quote the home office document, the best case scenario , prime the best case scenario, prime minister, at exactly the same time telling us you won't be able to stay. and here's the really big one. i think that a maximum of 500 deport asians could happen to rwanda in the first year. a maxim sum of 500 deportations, despite the impression that was given. now, to be fair here, they did estimate that could rise as high as 3000 in the years two and three. but if you just look at

those three basic facts that we've revealed from the rwanda files , this is the information files, this is the information that ministers were being given . that ministers were being given. this was the truth of the situation we were in. and yet the prime minister stood up there. i find it impossible , there. i find it impossible, literally impossible , to believe literally impossible, to believe that he or those that were briefing him did not know this information . and if he stands up information. and if he stands up and makes a pledge that you will be detained and you will be deported , i think the kindest deported, i think the kindest way i can put this is that he wilfully deceived the nation . wilfully deceived the nation. other people might use stronger words and that is why , above words and that is why, above all, on this and the legal numbers of people coming to britain, that support for the conservative party is now sinking beneath the waves. man ephesto after manifesto since 2010, promising that they'd reduce legal migration. but i'm joined by sirjohn hayes, conservative member of for

parliament, south holland and the deepings, former transport secretary john as i say, you know, these are official home office documents. they lay out very clearly the limits of our capability . these aren't capability. these aren't political points . these are political points. these are simple numerical points of what the position was. and yet the prime minister and actually the prime minister and actually the prime minister and actually the prime minister before him keep promising they'll stop the boats, but they won't. will they? >> well, the biggest existential crisis facing this country as you've implied, nigel, is mass migration . ian. yeah. and the migration. ian. yeah. and the reason for that is the pressure it places on public resources, but also on the difference it makes to the character of the nafion makes to the character of the nation , communities being nation, communities being altered. having to altered. people having to compete for jobs houses compete for jobs and for houses and road infrastructure, unable to additional to cope with the additional numbers. talk about numbers. people talk about access last year, there access to gps. last year, there were hundreds of thousands of new registrations due to new gp registrations due to population growth. your words due to mass migration. so let's be clear. you and i believe are most of the british people believe that has to stop. you're

right. it's about legal migration because leaving aside the boats and i'm coming back to that, i'm not avoiding your question. migration, question. legal migration, as you two years, 1.4 you know, over two years, 1.4 million. can't grow million. you can't grow a population at that pace . it's population at that pace. it's impossible to accommodate that number of additional people due to migration and the demographic change of the country. >> the reshaping of communities, the cultural change is enormous. what boats ? what about the boats? >> so the boats, so on the >> so on the boats, so on the boats. i think you're right. the imagery of the boats , although imagery of the boats, although the numbers, of course are much smaller legal migrants, the smaller than legal migrants, the imagery is people breaching our borders with impunity . now, you borders with impunity. now, you and campaigned and to take and i campaigned and to take back control , and i campaigned and to take back control, you'll remember the words very clearly . i did, the words very clearly. i did, uh, the british people backed you and i in taking back control . and can't control your . and if you can't control your borders, what you control? borders, what can you control? so stop the boats. so we have to stop the boats. rishi right . the best way of rishi is right. the best way of doing that is to emulate the australia. as the australian system called operation australia. as the australian system borders. operation australia. as the australian system borders. you ration australia. as the australian system borders. you know that sovereign borders. you know that very well. what they did was to process people offshore that acts as a deterrent to people

coming. now on the numbers, i haven't seen the documents, so i can't comment on those, of course. what i will is course. but what i will say is this that once people start being sent to rwanda, my estimate is and the government's two, they won't come. >> but john, no one's going to rwanda. we're side up. we're signed up to the european convention on human rights that judge stopped that plane from going. the going. we've incorporated the european court of the echr, the convention into british law , you convention into british law, you know, within the human rights act 1998. and the british judges love it. there are no planes going to rwanda, are there? >> not yet. >> not yet. >> there won't be. >> there won't be. >> but the bill that we just passed, not strong as it should have been, nigel. not as strong as should and as it should have been. and i tried to make it stronger as you well know. >> believe it's going happen. >> believe it's going to happen. >> believe it's going to happen. >> it will happen. my >> i think it will happen. my fear is. and i suspect it's your fear, too. not enough fear, too. not in enough numbers. planes fly, but numbers. so if planes fly, but the crossing is greater the numbers crossing is greater than the number leaving, then that will the that clearly will mean the policy hasn't worked. well. i hope can is the

hope we can do is what the australians did to broadcast a message people who are message to those people who are setting stay in setting off. you won't stay in britain, be sent to britain, you'll be sent to africa, if not, why should africa, and if not, why should we conservative for the we vote conservative for the next i think you're next election? i think you're right immigration is key right that immigration is a key sail next election. sail into the next election. okay should we vote okay why should we vote conservative they conservative if they if they don't with if they don't deal with it, if they don't deal with it, if they don't deliver on immigration, then will then the government will be found now, us, found wanting. now, those of us, i that have stood out and i hope that have stood out and made exactly argument you've made exactly the argument you've made exactly the argument you've made will be able to go to the electorate say, we fought made will be able to go to the electtonte say, we fought made will be able to go to the electto make say, we fought made will be able to go to the electto make this, we fought made will be able to go to the electto make this happen.]ht hard to make this happen. >> some you might survive. yes >> well, that's i'm only speaking for myself. what i've argued throughout and been argued throughout and i've been very clear. very consistent and very clear. >> position. it's >> i get your position. it's your party's. i've got the problem with. thank you for joining me. what? the joining me. now, the what? the farage moment ireland farage moment in ireland yesterday. a demonstration against migration. 10,000 against mass migration. 10,000 people gathering in dublin and among many that spoke to them was herman kelly, leader of the irish freedom party, who just happens to have been my former press officer in brussels. but have a look at the atmosphere in dubun have a look at the atmosphere in dublin yesterday, the number of people protesting ,

people who were protesting, people who were protesting, people a burning desire people who have a burning desire for the freedom of their country and the safety of their community, is a member of the irish freedom party. >> and it was explaining he's from leixlip . his family are from leixlip. his family are from leixlip. his family are from leixlip. his family are from leixlip , going through from leixlip, going through generations and explain to the camera why he was there making a stand against the colonisation of his local . community ll stand against the colonisation of his local . community l ll of his local. community l l ll l l l l there. >> nell . there live . said their >> nell. there live. said their new slits . new new. new slits. new new. >> it's happening, it's happening. and herman's words the colonies ation. well, he's not wrong, is he? and pro rata pro rata . legal immigration into pro rata. legal immigration into ireland is even higher than it is in this country now. a happy story. 102 year old jack hemmings, a world war ii bomber pilot, and one that one, the air force cross. yeah saturday became the oldest man to go up

in a two seater spitfire and take the controls. let's have a look , geoffrey. look, geoffrey. >> delightful . very bumpy , very >> delightful. very bumpy, very bumpy . um to be >> delightful. very bumpy, very bumpy. um to be honest, it felt a bit a bit rusty . not a bit a bit rusty. not surprisingly, as i am rusty and just finally , jack, how are you just finally, jack, how are you going to celebrate? >> and mark today? what are you going to do now? >> oh, i hadn't thought as far as that, but, um, i dare say, uh, a bit of a beverage of some sort might come. uh, a bit of a beverage of some sort might come . in. sort might come. in. >> world war two generation. uh, they enjoyed a beverage during they enjoyed a beverage during the war. they enjoyed a beverage after the war. there aren't many of them left. and i hope that jack hemmings enjoyed and jack hemmings enjoyed it. and you some footage here you can see some footage here of him back of the spit, him in the back of the spit, taking the controls and actually, there we are there, turning over completely fabulous. happy story

fabulous. lovely happy story and, you know, we reflect, as the 80th anniversary of d—day has just just ahead of us in a few weeks time that there are now so few of that generation left with us that we'll do our best on this channel to honour all of them. i promise you, we will. now, in response to my comments about the home office and what they knew, this is their response to the rwanda files , part one. the government files, part one. the government and rwanda are committed to delivering on our partnership and ensuring flights take off as soon as possible . the rwanda soon as possible. the rwanda scheme is uncapped at the number of people who will be removed to rwanda will depend on a range of factors . we do not comment on factors. we do not comment on unverified leaked documents . no, unverified leaked documents. no, i bet you don't. when they very clearly say that 500 would be the maximum in year one. now after the break, a truly astonishing and i think really deeply worrying story where a gender critical newcastle fan has been followed by a stasi

like premier league investigation and banned from going to watch her beloved football club. this is something that toby young of the free speech union has brought into the public domain, and this will be lindsey smith's first interview on national television on this subject. what the hell are the premier league up to . on are the premier league up to. on patrick christys tonight >> 9 to 11 pm. a big exclusive on the muslim vote. a new movement set to send shockwaves through the next general election. another exclusive for you on the bbc. wasting your money they prosecute money whilst they prosecute people licence fee. people over the licence fee. i've invested in the role of the church of england in bogota asylum nigel farage joins asylum claims nigel farage joins me for the latest immigration madness charles has madness and king charles has cancer. madness and king charles has cancer . but should he abdicate, cancer. but should he abdicate, david starkey on that patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. on gb news,

well toby young is the general secretary of the free speech union and somebody who we've worked with on this programme before because want get before because we want to get out into the public some of the ridiculous things, some of the bad things are happening in bad things that are happening in our country. bad things that are happening in our courone, toby, is totally >> this one, toby, is totally astonishing . i mean, this it astonishing. i mean, this it would appear and we know the stamp out racism campaigns and all the things that have happenedin all the things that have happened in football, which we would not disapprove of , but it would not disapprove of, but it would not disapprove of, but it would appear that's now almost like stasi like team hunt like a stasi like team hunt thing down football supporters whose views don't match pc views. it is extraordinary. views. yeah it is extraordinary. >> i don't think i've ever come across a case quite like this before. probably the before. nigel it's probably the most example of a most egregious example of a private company into appearing in free speech that the free speech union has encountered so far i alerted to lindsay's far. i was alerted to lindsay's case by harry miller, the ex—copper who's become a free speech warrior, when he heard about her case, he thought, this is free speech is one for the free speech union. so lindsay has been

banned by newcastle united, union. so lindsay has been banned from awcastle united, union. so lindsay has been banned from attendinginited, union. so lindsay has been banned from attending games until 2026, not because she said anything racist, but because she said trans women aren't women. and she didn't say that to an employee of the club , to employee of the club, to a player, to an official. she didn't even say it to another newcastle united fan. she just said it on twitter. and not only when someone complained about this did newcastle united decide to open an investigation. they also asked the premier league for help in investigating her. they said you've got a shadowy surveillance unit embedded in the premier league investigate this danger person. and they they compiled a 14 page dossier on lindsay containing information like where she walks her dog, what the church is called. this is surveillance. it's surveillance . it's the it's surveillance. it's the stadium. stasi. and when they pass this 14 page dossier , this pass this 14 page dossier, this dodgy dossier which you can see on your screen right now, um, uh, newcastle then passed it on to come northumbria police. good lord. northumbria police then turned up at lindsay's house and

said you better accompany us to the station where we can interview under caution. if interview you under caution. if you arrest you and you don't, will arrest you and force you to come with us. they concluded after two hours, perhaps that perhaps reluctantly, that she hadnt perhaps reluctantly, that she hadn't the law. hadn't actually broken the law. it's yet illegal say that it's not yet illegal to say that trans women aren't women. maybe if will if labour get elected, it will be, it's not at the moment be, but it's not at the moment and you have thought that and you would have thought that at enough, we would at that point enough, we would have to have concluded no case to answer. you nothing to answer. you know, nothing to investigate. instead they investigate. but instead they decided that she'd breached newcastle united's diversity and inclusion policy and banned her for two and a half seasons. it's absolutely outrageous, nigel lindsay smith joins here in lindsay smith joins us here in the studio . the studio. >> banned newcastle united >> a banned newcastle united fan. i you've done nothing wrong. you haven't broken the law. you've given an opinion . law. you've given an opinion. tell you the funny thing about this. just remind our viewers and listeners now cassell is 80% owned by saudi arabian money , owned by saudi arabian money, where of course, actually when it comes to gay rights and everything else, i mean, everything's banned . lindsay, everything's banned. lindsay, you clearly love the football club .

club. >> yeah, i do, i mean , i've >> yeah, i do, i mean, i've supported them my whole life to be honest with you, nigel. i remember it was my grandad that got me to love them. my dad was in air force, so we moved in the air force, so we moved around when i was younger. around a lot when i was younger. um, my granddad said, your um, and my granddad said, your support where you're from? um, um, and my granddad said, your supjthatrvhere you're from? um, um, and my granddad said, your supjthat wasa you're from? um, um, and my granddad said, your supjthat was newcastle m? um, um, and my granddad said, your supjthat was newcastle united. and that was newcastle united. so, , no matter where i lived so, um, no matter where i lived in country, it didn't in the country, it didn't matter. didn't matter i matter. it didn't matter if i was south. it didn't matter was down south. it didn't matter if i was in grimsby. they if i was living in grimsby. they were so how you feel were my team. so how do you feel when police knock at your when the police knock at your door and say done door and say you've done something awful and basically being a hate crime? being accused of a hate crime? >> really >> and that's really what happened h? >> and that's really what happened it? yeah. happened to you, isn't it? yeah. >> worst thing about it was >> the worst thing about it was nigel, were actually nigel, is there were actually warned harry miller, fair warned by harry miller, fair cop. sent them over. um, cop. he sent them over. um, a big of information around big list of information around his his ruling. which should his his ruling. um which should have their have made them stop in their tracks realise wasn't tracks and realise it wasn't malicious communications. tracks and realise it wasn't mal no us communications. tracks and realise it wasn't mal no reason munications. tracks and realise it wasn't mal no reason tomications. tracks and realise it wasn't mal no reason to be ations. tracks and realise it wasn't mal no reason to be bothering had no reason to be bothering me. um, and instead of reading it, they decided to just sack it off and my house. so. off and come to my house. so. and that was i was i was about to sit down to my tea when they came to the door. you must have

been horrified. it was terrifying. terrifying. terrifying. yeah, terrifying. and was shaking. to and i was shaking. i was sick to my stomach. i mean, never and i was shaking. i was sick to mymuchach. i mean, never and i was shaking. i was sick to mymuch as|. i mean, never and i was shaking. i was sick to mymuch as had1ean, never and i was shaking. i was sick to mymuch as had aan, never and i was shaking. i was sick to mymuch as had a warning�*never and i was shaking. i was sick to mymuch as had a warning offer and i was shaking. i was sick to mymuch as had a warning off the so much as had a warning off the police, if i'm honest. so to have two men turn up at my door threatening to arrest me was mortifying. >> so the bans in place, um, you know, we're obviously we're well through but the through the season now, but the bans place, do you have any bans in place, do you have any right of appeal? >> have appealed and i've >> um, i have appealed and i've upheld so you know, we gave upheld it. so you know, we gave a detailed appeal the a very detailed appeal on the areas where they've breached their policy with respect to their own policy with respect to their own policy with respect to the timing. so it says in their own complaints policy that they would let the person who's been complained know with in complained about know with in a reasonable amount of time . it reasonable amount of time. it took nearly four months to took them nearly four months to tell me, and i only knew because i got an email telling me i was under police investigation for a hate lindsay, you're >> you know, lindsay, you're very for getting public on very brave for getting public on this and sitting in this studio. it's something people it's not something that people necessarily um necessarily relish doing. um i wonder, i wonder, toby, how many other lindsey's there might be? >> well, i think she's not an isolated case. i fear that this

isolated case. i fear that this is unit. this surveillance unit that was set up, i wonder, by the premier league. might have been investigating hundreds, possibly thousands of people . possibly thousands of people. social media accounts monitoring them for wrong thing, not racism. as you say. i don't think many of us would have a problem with that. but, but, but merely for disagreeing with progressive radical orthodoxy on subjects like trans rights. and we put a form on our website. remember how much success you had with your subject access request ? what was it that request? what was it that revealed with what was interesting? >> was i. i came publicly >> was i. i came out publicly and said been debunked, at and said i'd been debunked, at which thousands of other which point thousands of other people came out and said they because didn't want to say because they didn't want to say it their own. that's why what it on their own. that's why what lindsay doing and well done lindsay is doing and well done you actually important, you is actually very important, because we're going to because i think we're going to learn we? learn more, aren't we? >> put a form on our website, >> we put a form on our website, free speech union organiser sa forward can fill out forward slash. you can fill out a subject request to ask a subject access request to ask your premier league club and this stadium stasi unit in the premier league if they've opened a file on you because we think

this is a deep, deep problem. it's not, not an isolated case, as say, the and the as you say, the sa and the de—banking my saviour. de—banking was my saviour. >> let's hope this works. getting final word to you getting the final word to you lindsay, keep it clean. but lindsay, and keep it clean. but have message for the have you got a message for the premier league and for newcastle united football club? >> i think biggest message >> i think the biggest message i've is for them to i've got really is for them to just not do this to anybody else. they really need to look at what they're doing and understand that just because someone's saying something you don't agree with or it's going against the tide, it doesn't mean you're being hateful. everybody has their own life experience asses. everyone's views based the life that views are based on the life that they've lived and to call me a bigot and call me everything i've been called and compare me to a racist just because i believe in the biology and the right to single—sex spaces for women , i find mind blowing. if women, i find mind blowing. if i'm honest, i'll tell you what. >> you've got a future in public affairs if you want it. i don't know. toby might employ you. well done. you. thank you for being brave and coming in and telling that story. thank you. a

truly horrifying story. now i've got to come back to popcorn this morning was some morning because there was some wonderful on the stage wonderful speakers on the stage this morning, including, yes , this morning, including, yes, sir jacob rees mogg, but there sirjacob rees mogg, but there was a point he made that i really felt i ought to pick him up on here. it was. >> and if you don't believe me, don't look around this country, but look to france , to germany, but look to france, to germany, look to brussels , look to look to brussels, look to holland, look to the united states, look argentina . states, look to argentina. voters have had enough. and they are saying , voters have had enough. and they are saying, up voters have had enough. and they are saying , up with this. voters have had enough. and they are saying, up with this. i will not put . and what answers do not put. and what answers do they get ? they get? >> so jacob rees—mogg don't look to this country. it was as if we are of the conservative party. no other political party must ever be allowed to exist that can challenge us. it is our god given divine right . you seem to given divine right. you seem to have missed something. it struck me that the last polls i saw had reform on 14% and the tories on 20. the populist revolution was

happening in europe is happening here, and you know, none of you today felt you could even acknowledge it. and i found that very, very i agree with so much of what you said, by the way, about the way blair had taken a supreme court out of parliament. but there seems to be you seem to be blind to what's really going on. >> i would say you've been fundamental to the popular revolt , so revolt that brexit was so, so important is why we're not important and is why we're not having protests that they're having the protests that they're having the protests that they're having in france and in germany , having in france and in germany, um, in belgium. but but we um, and in belgium. but but we have a first past the post system, and that means there needs to be a party of the right and effectively a party of the left. and that if you split the vote, you find that you lose on your wing of politics. and the question is, you were saying earlier that you thought the tory be smashed to tory party would be smashed to smithereens, that we smithereens, and from that we would rebuild. didn't agree would rebuild. i didn't agree with i think the only way with you. i think the only way to is with and through to rebuild is with and through the party the tory party >> so you're asking me to vote? you're asking me to vote or the viewers to for party that viewers to vote for a party that lied us wilfully general

lied to us wilfully at a general election have increased the election that have increased the size a state, allowed all size of a state, allowed all sorts of absurd in infringements on free speech that have allowed legal net migration to reach three quarters of a million a yean three quarters of a million a year, and we should vote for them again. >> i think that we need to adopt the policies of pop con that we were which were putting forward, which actually think rishi actually i don't think rishi sunakis actually i don't think rishi sunak is averse to. i think the political atmosphere has changed fundamentally , be that in 2010, fundamentally, be that in 2010, the equality act was seen as being a good thing. it was very hard to oppose it. the green agenda. now, they were all great. >> jacob were out of time. they're all great ideas . all i they're all great ideas. all i will say to you is i don't think you understand the anger at the tories in the country. i do, it's real. it's real, it's real. >> and we do have to do better. we do. we need to reunite our wing. we've got to go. >> it's time for the weather. jacob and i will talk. >> looks things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . good

evening. >> welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. i'm alex deakin tonight some snowy weather across northern scotland and some rain across the south. that'll slowly be clearing by dawn from this weather front. that's pushing its way steadily southwards with set of weather fronts really . and it's fronts really. and it's introducing the colder air further north. it's been very windy and snowy across shetland today. windy and snowy across shetland today . the snow showers easing, today. the snow showers easing, the winds are easing , but then the winds are easing, but then more sleet and snow comes in across highlands the across the highlands and the western through the night western isles through the night could turn things icy could turn things pretty icy here further south here as well. further south it'll rain that sinks its way it'll be rain that sinks its way across wales and southern across south wales and southern england, keeping the temperatures up here. but we'll still be a colder night than last night. certainly colder further north with a fairly extensive frost from northern england that's why england northwards. that's why it be icy. it could be it could be icy. it could be a few flurries through the central belt, band of sleet and belt, but that band of sleet and snow tending to ease as snow is tending to ease off as we go through the morning. more snow is tending to ease off as we gcshowersi the morning. more snow is tending to ease off as we gcshowers in|e morning. more snow is tending to ease off as we gcshowers in northernig. more snow showers in northern scotland the day. scotland through the day. the patchy rain the south making

patchy rain in the south making for start, but it should for a grey start, but it should clear for many it's clear away and for many it's a dry and a bright day tomorrow actually, with some decent spells sunshine, is spells of sunshine, but it is going to be cold. certainly colder than recent in colder than recent days in the south. a south. the single digits as a high and with the cold air in place and more wet weather pushing north thursday, pushing north on thursday, a greater some snow greater risk of some snow over wales parts the wales northern parts of the midlands, northern england and northern lot on the northern ireland. a lot on the hills at low hills, but even some at low levels could cause some levels that could cause some disruption. still a bit of uncertainty about the detail check out latest warnings on check out the latest warnings on the met office website . the met office website. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> hello, good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight. abdul shakur azadi remains on the run after an alleged attack with a corrosive substance, but it

makes a mockery of our asylum system as it emerges. he was convicted sex offender and claimed to be a christian to be granted refuge . but some have granted refuge. but some have suggested his asylum status is irrelevant. the free speech union has warned against diversity and inclusion proposals from the two main financial regulators , which financial regulators, which oversee thousands of british institutions . but this oversee thousands of british institutions. but this emerges as the labour party has announced it will extend the equality act and its much maligned effects of wokery . and maligned effects of wokery. and speaking of unaccountable and undemocratic institutions, today , we launched the popular conservatives , led by former conservatives, led by former prime minister liz truss , to prime minister liz truss, to counter this phenomenon and restore faith in genuine conservative policies. plus, the king was seen for the first time this afternoon since his cancer diagnosis. we will be discussing all the latest and of course, sending our sovereign our very best wishes. state of the nation starts now .

starts now. i'll also be joined by particularly theatrical panel this evening. barrister and former tory mp jerry hayes and the broadcaster and journalist matthew stadlen. as always, i want to hear from you. it's a crucial part of the programme. email me mailmogg@gbnews.com . email me mailmogg@gbnews.com. but now it's what you've all been waiting for. the news of the day with polly middlehurst . the day with polly middlehurst. >> jacob, thank you and good evening to you. let's start this bulletin with some breaking news just coming us from the just coming to us from the united . it's actually united states. it's actually from the us national transportation safety board. they have just released some initial findings about. you may remember that boeing flight where the door blew off mid—flight. it was a 737 max nine jet. it was mid—flight. this was january the 5th. and the findings after. there are are key bolts missing from that door which blew off. that's according to this initial