in from farmers, and continue in that theme. i'll be joined by the editor of the daily sceptic, will jones, to discuss exactly why ursula von der leyen, the european commission president, has taken these steps or announced this movement . and announced this movement. and finally, i'll be joined by former white house official steph grisham to discuss the interview everyone is talking about. when tucker met vladimir, all of that and lots of chat with my lovely panellist for this evening, journalist and presenter ingrid tarrant. but first of all, let's get a catch up on the news headlines with sam francis . neil thank you very much. >> good evening from the gb news rooms just gone 6:00 as we've been reporting today, gb news can reveal around 15 migrants were rescued earlier today after crossing the channel in a stolen french fishing boat . the small french fishing boat. the small vessel left the french coast between calais and dunkirk earlier this morning. the boat was handed over to uk border force officials and the migrants

were then brought to dover. that means that so far this year, almost 1400 migrants have made the journey across the english channelin the journey across the english channel in small boats . police channel in small boats. police are continuing their search here in london, in the river thames, for the body of the chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi . attack suspect abdul ezedi. earlier, a police boat was seen circling between vauxhall and chelsea bridges, with the met police saying they began their search just after low tide at around 9:00 this morning. the 35 year old was last seen on cctv on chelsea bridge. for those watching on tv, you can see ezedi there. the figure on the left hand side of your screen crossing that bridge, and this latest footage was just before 11:30 pm. on the on the night of that suspected attack . of that suspected attack. detectives now believe ezedi has . died and they say his body may never be found. a woman has been charged today with attempted murder after a suspected poisoning of two children, aged nine and 13, emerged . kc

nine and 13, emerged. kc services responded to the scene in east sussex on thursday evening after receiving calls of welfare concerns. all three were taken to hospital for treatment in the area. appearing in court earlier, the 38 year old woman was remanded in custody and we understand she'll appear again in court on the 8th of march. authorities say they believe it was an isolated incident and there is no further risk to the public. in birmingham, pro—palestinian protesters have been removed from a barclays bank on the high street there after staging a sit in. seven people were seen lying down inside the bank. you can see on the screen there holding placards and flags saying stop the genocide . it's been reported the genocide. it's been reported that one man, angered by the protest was seen banging on the doors of the bank and tipped over the protest table outside the entrance . we understand, the entrance. we understand, though, that no arrests were made mean . while three people made mean. while three people have been killed after a car was hit by a suspected airstrike in gaza's southern city of rafah,

the palestinians are claiming it was carried out by the israeli military. you can see here the aftermath of that attack, which happened earlier today. medics say that a separate air strike by israel overnight also killed 17 other people in the same area . well, the strike comes after israel's prime minister announced a plan to evacuate civilians from the crowded southern garden city of rafah and he says, to defeat the last hamas fighters there. the us has said in response it won't be supporting any military action without the guarantee of protection for civilians . back protection for civilians. back here in the uk, large parts of the country could face travel disruption and some possible flooding as heavy rain hits later today . the met office has later today. the met office has issued a yellow weather warning for rain covering newcastle and surrounding areas all the way down to east anglia and along the east coast of england. it comes into force in less than an hours comes into force in less than an hour's time and lasts until 12 pm. tomorrow. there's also p.m. tomorrow. there's also another weather warning covering much of cornwall, as well as parts of devon and somerset that

has started the latest has just started the latest round of doctor strikes that are planned later this month could be called off if nhs bosses give more time for negotiations. that's according to the british medical association . the latest medical association. the latest wave of walkouts were announced this week, after the bma said the government had failed to put an improved pay offer on the table. they're asking for a 35% pay table. they're asking for a 35% pay rise, which has been rejected by the government. under the current plans , under the current plans, thousands of medics are expected to strike in england for five days from the 24th . to the 28th days from the 24th. to the 28th of february. royal navy aircraft carrier the hms prince of wales is setting sail this weekend . is setting sail this weekend. the £3 billion vessel will take oven the £3 billion vessel will take over, leading the largest nato exercise since the cold war . the exercise since the cold war. the announcement comes a week after its sister ship, hms queen elizabeth, was forced to cancel its deployment deployment because of an issue with its propeller shaft . it comes just propeller shaft. it comes just 18 months after hms prince of wales itself suffered a similar

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published confidential details about , among published confidential details about, among much else, published confidential details about , among much else, the about, among much else, the identities of detainees in the dungeons of guantanamo bay, filled overflowing after the filled to overflowing after the invasion of afghanistan , about invasion of afghanistan, about the iraq war, about the relations between the united states government and president assad of syria. millions upon millions of documents , this millions of documents, this deeply embarrassing and incriminating to those implicated in their contents . implicated in their contents. the us government wants to take juuan the us government wants to take julian assange to the us and put him on trial, or at least to bury him forever out of sight and out of mind in their legal system, in olden days, castles and jails had oubliette bottle shaped dungeons, access only via a trap door above . oubliette is a trap door above. oubliette is french and means a place of forgetting, since it's impossible to destroy the truth and those who tell it, or at least the memory of their truth telling, they . say, and it must telling, they. say, and it must be put out of sight whenever necessary. so far, the compelled forgetting of julian assange has not quite. the not worked. not quite. the

material published by assange and wikileaks was nothing more or less than information. the powerful wanted kept in the dark as it as change thrust. it impertinently . into the light impertinently. into the light and has paid the price. the allergic reaction of the powerful to the truth is as obvious as the symptoms of anaphylactic shock. in years gone by, the truth could be kept under lock and key , sealed in under lock and key, sealed in vaults or more recently , on vaults or more recently, on encrypted hard drives , along encrypted hard drives, along with everything else that money can buy. global media was available to the highest bidder, or perhaps the most manipulative buyen or perhaps the most manipulative buyer. and so, rather than the unalloyed truth that has been propaganda, state sanctioned propaganda, state sanctioned propaganda that dominated propaganda that has dominated the pages and channels pushed into the faces of populations , into the faces of populations, the advent of the internet and more recently, the journalists of the independent media that the internet inadvertently made possible , has meant the truth to possible, has meant the truth to quote the x—files tv series is out there. the truth is the truth, even from the lips of

people you might not like . on people you might not like. on thursday, the world was invited to watch an interview by us journalist tucker carlson with russian president vladimir putin. it was lengthy. over two hours. anyone watching the content is to free draw their own conclusions about what putin said and how he said it. some of it was only his opinion, which is, after all, what tucker carlson was after at least in part. but there were also simple facts about the background to the ongoing war in ukraine. he cited, for example , the us cited, for example, the us fomented coup in 2014 when that nafion fomented coup in 2014 when that nation pushed the removal of moscow friendly ukraine president viktor yanukovych and his replacement with washington friendly petro poroshenko . we friendly petro poroshenko. we have had the opportunity to listen to the recording of a telephone conversation between victoria nuland, then us assistant secretary of state for european and eurasian affairs, and the us ambassador to ukraine, geoffrey pyatt , ukraine, geoffrey pyatt, discussing who she would prefer to see as prime minister of

ukraine without that leaked phone call , without ukraine without that leaked phone call, without independent journalists reminding the world of the history of ukraine before february 2022, when putin sent troops into that country , the troops into that country, the wider public might have been induced to forget the past induced to forget the past induced to forget that in the aftermath of the break—up of the soviet union, the us and nato made promises not to expand nato so much as an inch closer to the russian border promises that were soon forgotten induced to forget the minsk accords, agreed and signed by the interested parties, settling the terms for the end of the civil war in ukraine that followed. events in 2014. anyone citing that past that history was dismissed as a putin apologist, and yet that history is the truth , however history is the truth, however inconvenient it might be to the us, to nato , to the west, the us, to nato, to the west, the deletion of the past in relation to events in ukraine is made even more incongruous and ironical . when the war between ironical. when the war between israel and gaza sees the invocation of history that goes

back not years or decades, but all the way back to the old testament of the bible . on testament of the bible. on thursday, tucker carlson's interview with the russian president did no more and no less than give his audience the opportunity to watch and listen to a world leader stating his case, giving his opinion of events, listen to him or don't believe a word of what he says or don't. tucker carlson at least let us look into putin's eyes allowed us to consider his body language, to seek to weigh him up rather than merely demonising him as an irrational madman . but the people of the madman. but the people of the west are being coerced into forgetting that opposing sides sitting down to listen to one another, to weigh one another's words and gestures , is the words and gestures, is the essence of the diplomacy, the west used to pride itself upon in instead of diplomacy. what we get now is little more than petty name calling. i watched hillary clinton speaking on msnbc , a mainstream channel in msnbc, a mainstream channel in the us , in advance of the the us, in advance of the broadcast of the carlson putin

interview before we had had the chance to hear so much of a word of what had been said. clinton felt justified in early dismissing carlson as a puppy dog and a useful idiot for russian propaganda. quote there are people in this country right now who are like a fifth column for vladimir putin. there is a yearning for leaders who can kill and imprison their opponents, destroy the press . opponents, destroy the press. this is hillary clinton of the democrat party that has been moving heaven and earth and leaving no stone unturned in its efforts to imprison donald trump. arguably the most popular politician in america and certainly the democrat strongest political opponent this is the hillary clinton who plainly seeks to destroy the credibility of journalist tucker carlson. the most popular and arguably the most influential journalist in the us by describing him as nothing more than a useful idiot. elsewhere and even before the interview was broadcast, there were moves to have carlson identified as a traitor to his

homeland . there was talk, too, homeland. there was talk, too, of the eu imposing sanctions on him of denying him the right to travel through eu territory , travel through eu territory, that hillary clinton is in that same context , still that hillary clinton is in that same context, still prepared to broadcast to the world about the inherent wrongness in the hearts of leaders who would imprison their opponents and seek to muzzle the free press. is indicative either of a complete lack of self—awareness or of insincerity at best, and downright dishonesty at worst . downright dishonesty at worst. in advance of the broadcast, the parasite class was evidently in full panic mode for fear of what carlson might ask what putin might say . it carlson might ask what putin might say. it was impossible to listen to clinton without thinking about all the things she might fear, carlson would te putin up to talk about about us sponsored biolabs in ukraine, about the torrent of western money flowing through ukraine and back into the vaults of the military industrial complex about the true source of democrat national committee emails published by wikileaks

about disproven democrat allegations of trump colluding with russia in return for power , with russia in return for power, that clinton was out there all guns blazing about one us journalist seemed to speak volumes, or perhaps left volumes unsaid . the irony is that unsaid. the irony is that president joe biden was in front of the us media last week as well, and gave a performance that once again made plain his cognitive challenges articulate and persuasive . he was not. and and persuasive. he was not. and that's only the truth. and that his handlers exposed him to the bright lights of media attention at the same time, vladimir putin was able to demonstrate at the very least, fluency of speech and mental acuity seemed nothing less than cruel or perhaps the inevitable early moves in preparing democrat supporters for biden's replacement. with someone who can speak in intelligible sentences . his. intelligible sentences. his. that said , the chair of the dnc that said, the chair of the dnc has been on hand to say any suggestion of biden's failing

competence is only foreign misinformation . the parasite misinformation. the parasite class has been lying for years. we know it. they know we know it well. they felt their goal of total control was within their grasp. they demonstrably didn't care that we knew they were lying about the so—called pandemic , about a climate pandemic, about a climate crisis, about war in ukraine, war in the middle east and war elsewhere. but now it seems they would have us believe they do care. closer to home, the eu puppets have been scuttling around as well, like bedbugs revealed beneath a flipped mattress before the us election in november . mattress before the us election in november. we can look forward to elections in the eu member states and the potential removal of their snouts from the trough is focusing. eu minds like nothing else ever could . last nothing else ever could. last week, after months of protests by farmers in the face of all out war waged upon them by bureaucrats, hell bent on driving them out of existence so they might seize control of their land and of the food upon which the world depends. eu

commission president ursula von der leyen disdained to concede that our farmers deserve to be listened to. do you think so, ursula? ain't that the truth ? or ursula? ain't that the truth? or at least for as long as it suits you and the rest of your kind, as well as making it transparent , election friendly noises about backing down on drastic cuts to the use of fertiliser that on its own , makes possible the its own, makes possible the feeding of 8 billion people. you determination that we all should eat less meat was also kicked into the long grass for now at least, they're worried those desk jockeys and sock puppet politicians in thrall to transnational corporations and entities like the world economic forum and the world health organisation, and so they should be. who boss tedros ghebreyesus has been out again this time saying the pandemic preparedness treaty is mission critical and claiming most recently that young people have most to gain from what he called a stronger agreement and urging them to raise their voices to counter lies on social media. this is

nothing more or less than yet more propaganda . shamelessly more propaganda. shamelessly seeking this time to harness the youngest members of our societies for the blatant efforts by a wwho funded most enthusiastically by the biggest private landowner in the us, multi—billion billionaire salesmen of so—called vaccines , salesmen of so—called vaccines, bill gates to destroy the sovereignty of the populations of the world and give total control to unelected , control to unelected, unaccountable entities focussed only on wealth and power. here's the thing having exposed themselves so completely during themselves so completely during the covid era and having unwitting kept the spotlight on their own anti—human, self—seeking agenda , those self—seeking agenda, those chronic liars find they have no alternative. finally, but to seek to control that which they fear most of all, which is the simple truth they would demonise and then criminalise those who speak the truth with censorship and legislate on that much is plain to see. but as we have learned to see in recent years, the truth is a lion and needs no protection . we have only to set

protection. we have only to set it free, and it will take care of itself . if . of itself. if. joining me tonight is journalist and commentator as well as great friend of the show, ingrid tarrant . good evening ingrid. tarrant. good evening ingrid. >> good evening. >> good evening. >> pleased to have you with me once again. >> i'm so pleased to be back. honestly. did you? did you watch that interview? i did . i had to that interview? i did. i had to stop watching it three times in the first 30 minutes. i have to say, it was a little bit laborious going back through the history, back to the 600 and whatever it was. but once it got into it, once sort of, um, um, putin and carlson had got sort of, um, a real dialogue going. i found it absolutely fascinating. neil, i must say, um, i was born in the 50s, so i grew up. it's a consciously, um, afraid of the reds under the beds. that's what we called them . communism. the

we called them. communism. the wars . vietnam was kind of like , wars. vietnam was kind of like, very much. i was conscious of that. very much. i was conscious of that . so brought very much. i was conscious of that. so brought up very much. i was conscious of that . so brought up with the that. so brought up with the belief and notion that russia were our enemies. full stop . and were our enemies. full stop. and when the, um, there was the mumbling and it was several months before the war between russia and ukraine started, um , russia and ukraine started, um, with sort of like almost being brainwashed into this thing because i grew up with, with, you know, the russians are the enemies. i just thought, this isn't right. this doesn't feel right. and completely dependent sort of thinking in that sort of respect. when saw this respect. when i saw this interview , it just confirmed interview, it just confirmed everything that i believed. i'm not a i don't read body language. i don't understand it. but it there's so much credibility . but it there's so much credibility. i know but it there's so much credibility . i know that they credibility. i know that they tried he tried. and lavrov as well, um, to come to some agreement peace agreement. they didn't want this war. >> what about though the apart from anything else, the strenuous efforts that were made

to completely describe it, a tucker carlson and to dismiss as, uh, russian propaganda the, um, everything that hadn't yet been said. i know this was before and then it has ramped up doesn't that speak volumes? >> as you rightly said, it's they're so frightened they want it's going to blow the whole thing wide open. it's going to well, it's going to make people certainly question given what they've heard before, the propaganda that's been fed and of course they're terrified. so this, this is in itself they've shot themselves in the foot in a funny way to to, accept for a moment that only one side uses propaganda in a war is naivete. >> i just can scarcely comprehend . of course, you know comprehend. of course, you know that you would accept unvarnished truth. on one hand, and nothing but lying propaganda on the other. well, we know surely from experience that propaganda is endemic in war. >> of course, of course it does.

it's a game . it's kind of war it's a game. it's kind of war games. it's a game of chess. so of course it's going to happen andifs of course it's going to happen and it's up to us to try and to try and find the truth, to filter it absolutely into the first break we go, after which i'll be joined by mep christine anderson to talk about the eu dropping its net zero demands after farmers protests all across europe. >> i am neil oliver and this is gb news .

unfortunate. it was unnecessary. we think about the gallery is a complete red herring, by the way i >> welcome back . my first guest >> welcome back. my first guest this evening is european member of parliament christine anderson , who joins me to talk about, amongst other things, the fact that the eu have climbed down on the net zero demands, following the net zero demands, following the farmers protests around europe. christine joins me now. i hope. good evening christine, very grateful to you for giving of your time this evening .

very grateful to you for giving of your time this evening. uh the eu climbdown as it's being touted, uh, how sincere is it and how much is it pre—election , and how much is it pre—election, uh, running , and how much is it pre—election, uh, running, running, running in fear from the from the constituency . constituency. >> yeah . see, that's just the >> yeah. see, that's just the thing, you know , um, if we thing, you know, um, if we didn't have elections coming up, you know, and she would have done that. uh, i actually might have taken it seriously, but since we are having elections coming up and, uh, the protests, they have been rather persistent . um, they are in fear. they literally are in fear at this point. um because what they don't want is to have more meps , don't want is to have more meps, uh, being elected to actually , uh, being elected to actually, uh, being elected to actually, uh, serve the people and act in their best interest and act on their best interest and act on their behalf. so, um, they're trying to cut down on that at and, uh, the rationale behind thatis and, uh, the rationale behind that is pretty much, well, if we give in a little bit at least,

or at least we say we will. um, then they will secure the votes for themselves . and they for themselves. and they wouldn't go to parties like my party for, for example. so i'm not holding my breath. um, about what she what she was saying. um it's just another smoke screen, pretty much. to fool the people. that's the way i look at it. >> just a technical. can i have a bit more volume, please? in my ear on, uh, christine. i'm finding her slightly muted. so if we could turn christine up a little bit. sorry christine. what is the atmosphere? you're in the chamber. you're you're moving in the european moving around in the european parliament. what is the what is the what is the mood of the talk and what is the mood of your colleagues, those with whom your colleagues, those with whom you agree and those with whom you agree and those with whom you don't? you agree and those with whom youwellt? you agree and those with whom youwell ,’ you agree and those with whom youwell , uh, truth be told, the >> well, uh, truth be told, the ones that , uh, i don't agree ones that, uh, i don't agree with and the ones that don't agree with me, they don't really speak to me. i mean, there is there is meps that that will step off the elevator just because i step on, um, it's insane. because i step on, um, it's insane . so, um, there, there

insane. so, um, there, there isn't really a lot of conversation going on. um, it's strictly business. for example, in the committee meetings, uh, and even there they they'd rather i not say anything, uh, but here i am. and, you know, i just can't keep my mouth shut. so deal with it. but, um, yeah, they are kind of, um , that they are kind of, um, that they're frightened at this point . um, because a lot of them do realise what they're doing is not right. um they're not serving in the best interest of the people, and it is no longer a government of the people. uh uh, of the people, by the people , for the people. at this point, it's government the global it's government of the global libertarian misanthropists for the global misanthropists . and the global misanthropists. and by the global terrorism therapists. that's what we are looking at. and they're beginning to realise that the people will no longer let them get away with it. and they can no longer fool them into thinking , or no longer fool them into thinking, or we have to save no longer fool them into thinking , or we have to save the

thinking, or we have to save the planet now, and climate change andifs planet now, and climate change and it's all of this, um, people will no longer believe in that. and i think they're catching on to the fact that is, it's gigantic lie . gigantic lie. >> christine, i've been listening to you, uh, for years now. and you you come across as a person with righteous anger. uh, do you feel, uh, any sort of vulnerability , you know, you vulnerability, you know, you know, has it made your has it made your life difficult because you have taken such a forthright stance in the face of all of this ? this? >> well, i mean , obviously. >> well, i mean, obviously. >> well, i mean, obviously. >> yeah. so i live under an undisclosed , uh, address , uh, undisclosed, uh, address, uh, that's not publicly available because my house has been vandalised . um, i mean, i had vandalised. um, i mean, i had a thrown stone at my head . uh, thrown stone at my head. uh, that was in 2015. and and, uh, attacks , personal attacks, um , attacks, personal attacks, um, so i had a mob showing up at my

house at, like, 2 am. in the morning, and, uh, just, you know, screamed around, uh, while my kids were sleeping in the house. by the way. so, yeah, obviously , this we are living in obviously, this we are living in times, um, where you actually would have to go back a very long time , um, to find parallels long time, um, to find parallels . and i kind of thought that we had , uh, overcome that. and uh, had, uh, overcome that. and uh, you know, most people say pretty much claim to have learned from history. turns out they haven't learned a damn thing. and we've been seeing that in the last four years with this so—called pandemic, um, that was, you know, fear all over. people were being coerced . they were being coerced. they were manipulated, gaslighted . i mean, manipulated, gaslighted. i mean, it was terrible. uh ostracisation going on. people . ostracisation going on. people. were threatened with their livelihoods. you won't have a job if you don't take the jab. and all of this, um, going on. and all of this, um, going on. and that does remind me of very dark times. that especially here

in germany, we had to live through. and i would have hoped we would anything like we would never see anything like that again. but here we that ever again. but here we are, tarrant to are, ingrid tarrant listening to christine there. christine anderson there. >> think that the >> um, do you think that the climb down is sincere, or do you think it's just what you would expect from worried politicians approaching elections ? approaching elections? >> yeah, i think what christine says, and actually she would know better than anyone. i think it is a little bit sort of like climb down to appease at the moment. it's timely to do that, but i think it's very insincere. they just want to keep pushing this agenda and not backing down. but it's quite interesting, though have to interesting, though i have to say wonder if people are say that i wonder if people are beginning though? um when beginning really though? um when i say people on high that we're not taking this net zero agenda anymore, starmer back down from the u—turn over the 38 billion investment in net zero as well. and i just wonder a little bit if it's just shifting and they perhaps are trying to compromise a bit or just beginning to realise that we've seen right

through them as an absolute nonsense . it'd be interesting to nonsense. it'd be interesting to see how it plays out, especially post elections . post elections. >> christine, listening . to >> christine, listening. to ingnd >> christine, listening. to ingrid tarrant there, do you, do you, do you sense the same . that you, do you sense the same. that whether or not this is a, you know, a kicking into the long grass to let them get through the elections, is it finally getting to them that if a population as traditionally conservative as farmers, aided and swathes of and abetted by swathes of population, kicking off population, are kicking off about net zero and agenda 2030, do you think finally the message is getting through to them ? is getting through to them? >> um, well, if you're talking about this is the message getting through to the politicians that who are who are responsible for all of that? >> no, it's not um, i mean, eu commission. ursula von der leyen backing down on this one, or at least, you know, partially taking it back. uh, that is just a tactical retreat. so, uh, yeah , a peace the people and, you know, get them through election

and once the elections are done with, trust me, they will just pretend we never said that. no, we're not going to do that. so. and they will once again go full force on that. but now they have to look at getting through june 9th. that's the last day of the elections . and um, starting up elections. and um, starting up again in july and in august, uh, you will see they will not remember ever having said that they were going to partially walk it back. >> what will it take then ? you >> what will it take then? you know, if their populations rise thing, if the farmers upon whom we all depend three times a day for our daily bread and the rest, what will it take? because we need to get away from net zero. >> we . do. i mean, it's >> we. do. i mean, it's absolutely ridiculous . absolutely ridiculous. >> um, i mean, there absolutely there is climate change. of course there is. because i'm being called a climate change denier. right um, there is climate change, but there is

always been climate change. but it's hubris think it's absolute hubris to think that we as, as men have, have such impact climate that such an impact on climate that we could actually change it. and to make matters worse , um, i to make matters worse, um, i mean, i'm german , right? so mean, i'm german, right? so we're shutting down all of our nuclear power plants , uh, and nuclear power plants, uh, and doing all of that. and and, uh, it's literally germany is now saving the whole planet, right ? saving the whole planet, right? oh, gosh, this is insane . so, oh, gosh, this is insane. so, anyways, um . yeah, we have to anyways, um. yeah, we have to get away. uh, we have to get away from that. but um, they are not sincere. and when you ask, what will it take? you would think , um, i mean , ursula von think, um, i mean, ursula von der leyen, i heard your quote , der leyen, i heard your quote, uh, apparently she said that our farmers are worth, worth or deserve to be listened to. uh, it's not just the farmers. um thatis it's not just the farmers. um that is democracy . the elected that is democracy. the elected officials and elected representatives, they listen to the people. point blank. and if they're not doing that, then they're not doing that, then they have no place in being, uh, in office. so. but they are not

they want the people to do more, um, as they were told. and that's what we're talking about. so i don't know what it will take, but all the, the, the uprising throughout the countries, we are seeing, we are actually in a cold civil war already a cold civil war. >> christine anderson , once >> christine anderson, once again, thank you so much for giving so generously of your time this evening. i'll hope we get the chance to speak again. thank you for now. thanks for having me. after the break, we'll continue this discussion with editor of the daily sceptic, will jones. don't go anywhere . i am still neil oliver anywhere. i am still neil oliver and this is still

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unbelievably, they've already paid. we've got to get to the bottom of this. are we talking to some parents and an expert on this? join me richard tice sunday morning, 11:00. don't miss it . miss it. >> welcome back. continuing the subject of the farmers protest , subject of the farmers protest, let's say i'm joined by the editor of the daily sceptic, who feels this might be the end of the net zero demands. joining me now, will. are you there ? now, will. are you there? >> i am hi, neil. >> i am hi, neil. >> delighted to have you with me this evening . what do you hear this evening. what do you hear from your contacts in relation to this within the european union, within that parliament, you know, are the are the are they running scared or is it just insincere preparations for elections ? elections? >> well, you've got to suspect a lot of cynicism here, haven't you? there is there is clear there's clear anticipation of there's clear anticipation of the elections coming up. we're

heanng the elections coming up. we're hearing about that from christine anderson that they're clearly they've got an eye on those elections. there's a huge swell support for eurosceptic swell of support for eurosceptic parties, and we have the farmers who traditionally have been very, very pro eu. of course, they stuff their mouths with gold with the with the subsidies, with the agricultural policy. so traditionally they rely and expect the farmers to play rely and expect the farmers to play ball , to play, stay on play ball, to play, to stay on side. yet here they are side. and yet here they are across the eu, across europe, just coming out up, rising up in protest against these, these extra ordinary measures, a net zero measures that the eu is bringing in to really slash the farming and their business and their livelihood, and they're really they're really not happy. it's a it's a real sea change and tidal change. and of course their cynicism . of course their cynicism. of course they've got these elections , uh, they've got these elections, uh, in mind . but i think we have to in mind. but i think we have to say that, of course the farmers aren't going anywhere. if they do, just bring it all back. if they do, just bring all these measures back after the elections, then the farmers will

just again. these these just come out again. these these protests, they've been across europe. they've europe. they've got they've occurred italy , occurred in austria, in italy, belgium, france, germany , belgium, france, germany, poland, romania, slovakia , poland, romania, slovakia, spain. i mean, really, it's across the whole continent. and those farmers aren't going anywhere. and if they try and do it again , then, then those, it again, then, then those, those farmers are just going to come out again. so i think we do have to it as, as a, as have to see it as, as a, as a sea change as, as the, as net zero meeting the cold hard reality of people's livelihoods and prosperity . and, and i do and prosperity. and, and i do think we have to see that as we get closer and closer to these targets, these deadline is 2040. the 90% cuts in emissions, 2050 for net zero itself. we are going to see these targets falling and melting away because net zero is coming apart at the seams. let's be honest, will, what is the way back from net zero? >> do you know with closed with with done away with domestic sources of energy. you know germany what with the loss of

the nord stream pipeline. whoever blew that up, i think we all suspicions there. all have our suspicions there. you know what is realistically the to unpick all of this? the way to unpick all of this? because that tapestry of net zero seems to be pretty thoroughly woven. now >> yeah, they've they've really been pushing that agenda haven't they. it's really been it's really got us captured . but i really got us captured. but i think as these targets fall and as we've already seen in the uk, we've seen those ill, ill conceived targets of the boiler tax that's already gone. the, the ban on, on uh , internal the ban on, on uh, internal combustion engines. uh petrol and, and petrol and diesel cars. we've seen that banned in pushed back by five years. so we've seen those targets. and this is just the start. we've seen keir starmer and the labour party drop their £28 billion a year green spending pledges unaffordable. so we've just so that's that's that gives us an indication how this will indication of how this will happen just bit by bit. the targets will be dropped because reality will will hit home in one way or another. and people

will not put up with mass. frankly, deindustrialised and impoverishment . and that's what impoverishment. and that's what the farmers are staring at. of course, the other part of your your article in the daily sceptic, you looked into your crystal a bit about the crystal ball a bit about the popular party's so—called , uh, popular party's so—called, uh, and, and some predictions. >> what do you think is going to be the texture of the, the, the euro union when we get to the other side of these elections in june, is there going to be a surge by the, by the, by the so—called extremist far right populist parties? >> uh, well , populist parties? >> uh, well, yeah. the tarring of the and smearing of these parties, anything that goes against the eu orthodoxy on on anything from, uh, net zero to immigration, obviously gets tarred with the so—called far right, uh, and extremist brush. but certainly there's a huge surge across the continent of support for eurosceptic parties, parties which are not happy with the levels of immigration coming into europe, illegal and legal

immigration and parties which are not happy with net zero measures. the extreme measures that do threaten to deindustrialised impoverish the continent and all to nothing , of continent and all to nothing, of course, because as we know, the net zero in europe is really achieved by by outsourcing all our industry to other countries , our industry to other countries, to china, to india, who are pushing full scale, full steam ahead with with coal power plants and with all kinds of all the all the measures and steel making, all the things that we are pushing away from our own shores because we say that they make too many emissions. uh, we're just we're just pushing those them. those to them. >> bear me. well, ingrid >> bear with me. well, ingrid tarrant, feel tarrant, do you feel any optimism? do you feel any sense that we that we are in a position to begin pushing back against net zero in a meaningful way? i i do, i really do . way? i i do, i really do. >> i think that the people that ispeak >> i think that the people that i speak to are more and more are very much in this net. uh net zero is a con. it's all about

the tax. they're not having it. and then it's the bigger picture as well. that sort of we're going to be eating bugs. we're going to be eating bugs. we're going to be eating bugs. we're going to we won't be able to have any grazing animals. um, we won't even be able to have pets, you know, stuff like that. and then i know it is . absolutely. then i know it is. absolutely. and the just stop oil that and then the just stop oil that comes into it because that plays because they're all very interwoven. like interwoven. it's like the tapestry very, tapestry of saying it's very, very closely knit and it's i just think it is falling apart from just speaking to people . from just speaking to people. um, so i feel i do feel optimistic . nick. thanks, ingrid. >> and thank you . will jones, >> and thank you. will jones, editor of the daily sceptic . so editor of the daily sceptic. so good up you. and good to catch up with you. and we can do this again. thank you for now. thank you. making way there for another break. after which i'll be chatting to stephanie grisham, hear stephanie grisham, uh, to hear her opinions on that interview. this is neil oliver on gb news great stuff. >> do you feel optimistic

>> welcome back. i'm joined now by stephanie grisham, who is a former white house press secretary, to talk about what we actually learned from this ground breaking interview. good evening. stephanie >> hi, neil. nice to have or see you. >> nice to see you too. now you come from this background of deaung come from this background of dealing with journalist s, you know, dealing with media. is this where we are now? what shocked me as much as anything else was the way in which tucker carlson was vilified before the fact. just just for having sought an interview with a world leader ? leader? >> yeah , i agree with that >> yeah, i agree with that sentiment. you know, i think that i know that there is any outlet here in the united states would would love to interview vladimir putin. i do think that, you know, during the interview itself , i you know, during the interview itself, i think you know, during the interview itself , i think that putin went itself, i think that putin went largely unchecked , which was a largely unchecked, which was a disappointment. however i think that one redeeming quality from that one redeeming quality from that interview was the fact that, you know, tucker asked about freeing evan gershkovich, which is a wall street journal

reporter that's being held in russia for espionage, falsely. so, you know, i think any media outlet would interview putin. i think that the line of questioning probably would have been different. and i would say, i it's pretty obvious that i think it's pretty obvious that putin was using tucker to speak to a part of our legislature that's grappling with funding ukraine further in the war between russia and ukraine. >> in that light, what questions would you have wanted to ask if you had been in that position that that of being the interviewer ? interviewer? >> you know, it's funny that you asked me that. i thought that as i was kind of getting ready for this interview, i thought, what would i ask? and i for me, would i ask? and i think for me, i i am not a reporter and i mean, i am not a reporter and i'm certainly not a national security expert, but i would ask i ask, the first question i would ask, the first question i would ask, the first question i would ask about evan, about i would ask is about evan, about the street journal reporter the wall street journal reporter and, know, why you and, you know, why are you keeping know, it's keeping him? and you know, it's been a year. and how can been almost a year. and how can we get him back? i'd also ask

about, you know, alexei navalny, who's been you know, who's been held you know, he's obviously anti—corruption obviously an anti—corruption activist and an opposition leader that's gone against putin and and and he's being held and actually, for a while, nobody could find him. so i would ask, you is it that your you know, why is it that your enemies constantly, you enemies are are constantly, you know, falling out of windows or being go being poisoned? i think i'd go on questioning, but on that line of questioning, but again, i'm no reporter. when again, i'm no reporter. um, when you i just when you watched as i'm you did hillary clinton i'm sure you did hillary clinton in advance of the interview , uh, in advance of the interview, uh, you know, saying that, you know, pounng you know, saying that, you know, pouring scorn on leaders who would imprison an opponents. >> how did that strike you, given the past months or longer of democrats seeking to imprison or at the very least, throw the book at their main opposition to donald trump? was that not rank hypocrisy of the first order? >> well, look , i mean, right >> well, look, i mean, right now, as i'm sure you know, our our politics are just visceral. and it is a split screen. the hypocrisy on both sides is pretty bad . um, and it's pretty bad. um, and it's unfortunate for our, our for our

country. we've got biden , who, country. we've got biden, who, you know, has his own issues . you know, has his own issues. we've got trump who has many, many issues . and i think many issues. and i think depending on what political side you're on, you're just going to everybody's with their everybody's sticking with their guy than being, know, guy rather than being, you know, pragmatic from pragmatic and looking at it from both sides. so absolutely, there's of hypocrisy right there's a lot of hypocrisy right here so here because people are just so angry . angry. >> and when it comes to the vilification of tucker carlson for even doing what he did for going to russia to speak to a head of state, isn't that what your old boss donald trump would have advocated anyway? isn't didn't he have a reputation for seeking to talk and to strike deals? you know, rather than to open up with bullets and bombs as you know, i think that that's as you know, i think that that's a really interesting way to frame it. >> i think the problem with my former boss with trump and then also with tucker was that, yes , also with tucker was that, yes, while they just want to speak to a leader putin, they also a leader like putin, they also almost romanticised them, you know, constantly with trump , he know, constantly with trump, he was constantly talking about his love letters between kim jong un

and himself . and i think that and himself. and i think that a lot of times he didn't when it came time, he didn't hold their feet to the fire. i recall one press conference between trump and when trump was asked, and putin when trump was asked, do you believe in our national security? people are intelligence people, or do you believe putin? and trump said, i believe putin? and trump said, i believe putin. and i think that missteps like that have not been good the country . that's one good for the country. that's one of the things from with of the things from bear with me, stephanie. of the things from bear with me, ste ingrid, did you make of >> ingrid, what did you make of that interview? you know, when you watched , you know, you say you watched, you know, you say you watched, you know, you say you don't read body language , you don't read body language, but you're impression. but you're you're impression. did that tucker gave did you think that tucker gave him ride . him an easy ride. >> perhaps he could have asked a few more pertinent questions, but he gave him the platform to speak. but he gave him the platform to speak . so. and that is a lot of speak. so. and that is a lot of the art of interviewing. you ask a few key questions and let the person continue to talk. and he did talk for two hours. um i think it was very insightful . think it was very insightful. well, um, he did pull him up on a few things. i can't remember exactly what, but it was a soft

approach. but it was. it showed what came out of that very strongly for me, irrespective of the detail that putin is passionate , he's a really passionate, he's a really patriotic . he wants the best for patriotic. he wants the best for his country , and he looks at the his country, and he looks at the west and he laughs at our wokeness and things like that. >> what about that, stephanie? that that idea that ingrid suggests there that, you know, you can't deny that we were looking at a world leader who was professing love of country. uh it was it was persuasive in that way, at least. no >> yeah, i don't disagree. i think that any leader of a country is going to speak that way about their country. i think that in the beginning, the history that he talked about between russia and ukraine, um, was a little skewed towards his belief. and he was trying to, again, i think, reach an audience here in the united states with the with the, the object of just not getting us the, the congress here to fund

the, the congress here to fund the ukraine, the help , sorry the ukraine, the help, sorry fund the ukrainians in the war. so i think that he had a clear agenda. you know, he's former kgb . he's a smart man. he knows kgb. he's a smart man. he knows what he's doing. and so his agenda, i think, was to talk to congress and say, hey, stop funding ukraine. he had talking points down. he said, you have immigration issues in united immigration issues in the united states. have the national states. you have the national debt the united states. he debt in the united states. he was think, at was quite good, i think, at talking to that, that audience, stephanie, who in america or indeed anywhere else could speak for 30 minutes about the a thousand years of their country's history . country's history. >> well, in the case of america, 200 and so years of history was that in itself, you know, when did we last hear a world leader seek to do that ? seek to do that? >> well, i mean, tucker definitely gave him the time to do that. that's that's for sure. and what was your what was your overall assessment of the man? >> you know, we've been invited to consider vladimir putin as to be a madman. we've had all be a madman. uh, we've had all sorts reports about his sorts of reports about his physical fitness, know, and

physical fitness, you know, and suggestions on the suggestions that he's on the road out. you looked at him there in room tucker there in the room with tucker carlson. think ? carlson. what did you think? >> i mean, it was the vladimir putin was used to seeing when , putin i was used to seeing when, uh, when we would do bilateral meetings trump and meetings between trump and putin. he's a very confident man. he goes in knowing what he's going to say. uh, he clearly had his agenda written out. he wanted to make sure that , know, congress doesn't , you know, congress doesn't fund in that fund ukraine. and so in that regard, he i think he did what he set out to do running at a time there. >> stephanie, you so much >> stephanie, thank you so much for of your time this for giving of your time this evening. great see you. we'll evening. great to see you. we'll catch thanks all my catch up again. thanks to all my guests, wonderful panellist guests, my wonderful panellist ingnd guests, my wonderful panellist ingrid tarrant, from whom i would more. would have heard so much more. next the saturday five. next up, it's the saturday five. i'll see you next week. thanks looks like things are heating up i >> -- >> boxt boilers spot . of weather >> boxt boilers spot. of weather on gb news is . on gb news is. >> hello there . >> hello there. >> hello there. >> good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. have quite a foggy and murky night to come ahead of

us into sunday. us leading into sunday. certainly could see some mist and fog patches forming relatively widely across areas of uk. quite damp night as of the uk. quite a damp night as well, showers well, with showers pushing across southwest, this band across the southwest, this band of longer rain moving into eastern eastern eastern england and eastern scotland be some scotland as well, could be some localised this localised disruption, with this rainfall on already very rainfall falling on already very saturated ground temperatures. though underneath all that cloud generally holding up above freezing. we can't out freezing. but we can't rule out a patchy for some clearer a patchy frost for some clearer spells areas scotland , spells across areas of scotland, but will be quite a damp but it will be quite a damp start sunday with start to sunday again, with those showers their way those showers pushing their way through. quite heavy, through. could be quite heavy, maybe along maybe with some thunder along some of the far some coastal areas of the far south. clearing south. rain eventually clearing for but is for eastern england, but it is going a very wet day for going to be a very wet day for northeast areas of scotland, but some developing some brighter spells developing as into the afternoon as we head into the afternoon too, though with some continuing showers the west. showers moving in from the west. temperatures generally around 7 to 11 c. on monday. temperatures generally around 7 to 11 c. on monday . the area of to 11 c. on monday. the area of low pressure that we have seen around weekend slowly around this weekend will slowly drift northwards, a bit drift its way northwards, a bit closer iceland , and that closer towards iceland, and that allows northwesterly flow allows this northwesterly flow of air to start moving its way in quite a lot of isobars on the chart there, so will be

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