christine hamilton. uh, in a few moments time, we'll be going clashing in a head to head with gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and businessman and activist adam brooks. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . started, let's get your latest news headlines. nana >> thank you. and good afternoon. it's 3:00. these are your top stories from the gb newsroom. warnings against a planned israeli invasion of the southern gaza city of rafah are mounting , with ministers mounting, with ministers saying it catastrophic for it would be catastrophic for civilians. it comes as israel begins mobilising its troops in preparation for a ground invasion. earlier, israeli tanks and bulldozers were seen operating along the israel—gaza border . operating along the israel—gaza border. explosions and smoke from the israeli ground operation in khan younis could be seen from rafah . as the city be seen from rafah. as the city awaits a full scale offensive, benjamin netanyahu , israel's benjamin netanyahu, israel's prime minister, says he has a plan to evacuate civilians from the crowded area beforehand . the crowded area beforehand.

yesterday, at least 44 people, including several children, died including several children, died in what the palestinians claim were israeli airstrike . s the were israeli airstrike. s the defence secretary is said to be furious over the ministry of defence's diversity and inclusivity policy. it's been reported in today's telegraph that the army wants to relax security clearance vetting for overseas recruits to boost diversity and inclusion , grant diversity and inclusion, grant shapps told the sunday telegraph that he's ready to go to battle over the matter, and has ordered a review. he's warned there will be no lowering of security clearance requirements on his watch . according to the paper, watch. according to the paper, the uk's armed forces are looking overseas because they've reportedly failed to hit recruitment targets . fujitsu is recruitment targets. fujitsu is said to have received more than £3.4 said to have received more than £34 billion through contracts £3.4 billion through contracts from treasury linked organisations, despite its role in the post office scandal. the commons treasury committee says fujitsu was awarded around £i.4 fujitsu was awarded around £1.4 billion worth of deals since the high court ruling in 2019,

concluding there had been numerous failings in its horizon . it system . £2 billion worth of . it system. £2 billion worth of contracts were also agreed before 2019, and remained active thereafter . a before 2019, and remained active thereafter. a group of mps wrote to organisers , including hmrc , to organisers, including hmrc, the financial conduct authority and the bank of england, to demand details of their agreements with fujitsu . the agreements with fujitsu. the committee said all three have spent considerable sums with them . two people have been them. two people have been arrested after an eight year old child was seriously injured in a suspected xl bully attack. the dog had bitten the child's head in merseyside yesterday afternoon . the boys had afternoon. the boys had emergency surgery and remains in a serious but stable condition . a serious but stable condition. doctors say his injuries are life changing. officers seized the dog, which they believed to be an xl bully . a 49 year old be an xl bully. a 49 year old woman and a 30 year old man have been arrested and they're not related to the child and. the

housing secretary has warning young people shut out of the uk's housing market could turn to authoritarianism . michael to authoritarianism. michael gove says a failure by the government to tackle the housing crisis could harm democracy as well as the conservatives chances at the general election. in an interview with the times, he says the traditional route for young people to work hard and get on the housing ladder has gone . gove criticised labour has gone. gove criticised labour for, he says, continuously rejecting housing policies . rejecting housing policies. >> the difference between a party saying that its policy is pro home builder, not blocker . pro home builder, not blocker. and then when we bring things forward , every single forward, every single conservative mp, every single conservative backed our proposals for new homes . and proposals for new homes. and labour were whipped to a man and woman against it. so this is not about individuals. this is about about individuals. this is about a party that makes big claims. and yet, as we see time after time, it turns turtle. and that's why keir starmer is the jellyfish of british politics. he's transparent, spineless,

swept along by the tide . swept along by the tide. >> 124 migrants crossed the engush >> 124 migrants crossed the english channel yesterday on three small boats, according to the new home office figures. the latest arrivals brings the total for the year to just over 1500. that's down from 2072 at the same time last year, but up from the figure in 2022. apart from the figure in 2022. apart from the latest crossings, small boats had not been intercepted since january 31st. the prime minister has made stopping the boats a key pledge of his leadership as the country approaches a general election . approaches a general election. on archewell, kwasi kwarteng says immigration must be a key focus for the government when it comes to having success at the next election. the former chancellor also told gb news his decision to not stand for re—election as an mp is one he's been considering for a while . been considering for a while. >> thinking about it for a long time . have you.7 how >> thinking about it for a long time . have you? how long? and time. have you? how long? and there was well, ever since the beginning of the parliament. actually, i thought, i had actually, i had thought, i had

thought and i was minister of state point. i had state at that point. i had thought that, you know, three terms, three we had terms, three obviously we had more , but 15 years is more elections, but 15 years is probably , in this modern probably, in this modern climate, a reasonable amount of time to be an mp . two of the time to be an mp. two of the principal things that conservatives should fighting conservatives should be fighting for lower taxes and secure for are lower taxes and secure borders, stronger immigration. yeah, and strong on taxes. and if you look at our si immigration cap, yes, i mean, there's got to be something on it. you on it. i mean, yeah, you know, on two of metrics, we haven't two of those metrics, we haven't frankly no frankly performed very well. no >> the king has attended >> and the king has attended church in sandringham for the first time since his cancer diagnosis. his majesty walked alongside queen camilla and waved to well—wishers last night. king charles thanked the nafion night. king charles thanked the nation for their overwhelming support in his first public message since the diagnosis announcement. the monarch said such kind thoughts are the greatest comfort and encouragement . buckingham palace encouragement. buckingham palace has said he's facing a form of cancen has said he's facing a form of cancer. unrelated to his recent prostate treatment . for all the

prostate treatment. for all the latest stories , sign up to gb latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . news. com slash alerts. >> thank you tatiana. it's fast approaching seven minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua . this is gb 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. now, before we get stuck into the debates over the next hour, let me introduce you to my clashes. joining me is gb news senior political commentator, nigel nelson, and also businessman and activist adam brooks. right. here's what's coming up today. wars keir starmer right after the controversy at pmqs this week, which i watched the prime minister is continuing to resist calls to apologise for his comments on keir starmer seeming inability to define a woman. will starmer right to call for an apology then? did you watch it? did you watch it? tucker carlson was that the right thing to do? again, the interview . to do? again, the interview. putin it was it true that no

western leaders had really approached putin and asked him for such an interview and did that change your thoughts on putin as the us journalist comes under lawmakers ? under attack from eu lawmakers? should he have been interviewing ? should he have been even doing that then believe that? uh, then do you believe that? uh, then do you believe that is in the river after that abdul is in the river after the whereabouts of the suspected chemical attacker? abdul ezedi are still unknown. do you trust the met they say that he the met when they say that he fell the thames? seems fell in the thames? it seems a bit convenient, but you know. who knows? does rishi need to bnng who knows? does rishi need to bring boris ? maybe bojo is bring back boris? maybe bojo is the only way the tory party can be saved . should rishi give him be saved. should rishi give him a call and then finally, should we worried about i. i amazon we be worried about i. i amazon has had to remove several books containing false claims about the king's cancer diagnosis after that they after it emerged that they were written a i. should we be written by a i. should we be worried about the potential for misinformation that's coming up in the next hour? tell me what you think on everything where discussing email gbviews@gbnews.com tweet me gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news.

gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. now just in case you don't already know this, but i've got to remind you, you can't miss this. the prime minister rishi sunak, is going to appear exclusively news to appear exclusively on gb news on forum , which is on our people's forum, which is an long question answer an hour long question and answer session that matter to session on issues that matter to you. let's have a listen to what he has to say . you. let's have a listen to what he has to say. hi rishi here as prime minister i'm focussed on delivering on your priorities, so i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum on monday the 12th of february, where i'll be taking questions from a live audience about the issues that really matter to you the economy, immigration on the nhs. >> see you there . >> see you there. >> see you there. >> so at rishi sunak had an undisclosed location so far at eight here on gb news, he's going to take part in a special people's forum. >> it will be live from the nonh >> it will be live from the north east of england over the course of the hour. he'll of course of the hour. he'll of course take questions directly from british

from you. the great british pubuc from you. the great british public and a vigil. if you've just tuned in. welcome on board. this is gb it's just this is gb news. it's just coming up to ten minutes after 3:00. and vigil is being held 3:00. and a vigil is being held today mark anniversary of today to mark the anniversary of brianna murder. the brianna brianna ghey murder. the brianna ghey this day last year ghey was on this day last year murdered by two teenagers have been being found who were found guilty of manchester crown court last december . the prime last december. the prime minister is continuing to resist calls to apologise his calls to apologise for his comments on starmers comments on keir starmers inability define a woman at inability to define a woman at prime minister's questions. this week, after he accused the labour using brianna's week, after he accused the labour to using brianna's week, after he accused the labour to distractising brianna's week, after he accused the labour to distract from brianna's week, after he accused the labour to distract from the nna's murder to distract from the u—turns. but keir, as well as brianna ghey father, have called on apologise . guys, have on him to apologise. guys, have a listen to pmqs. >> it's a bit rich , mr speaker, >> it's a bit rich, mr speaker, to hear about promises from someone who has broken every single promise. he was elected on. i mean, i think i counted almost 30 in the last year. pensions, planning, peerages , pensions, planning, peerages, pubuc pensions, planning, peerages, public sector pay, tuition fees, childcare, second referendums, defining a woman . although defining a woman. although although in fairness , that was

although in fairness, that was only 99% of a u—turn that the list goes on. but the theme is the same. mr speaker, it's empty words, broken promises and absolute no plan . keir starmer. absolute no plan. keir starmer. >> of all of all the work, of all the weeks, to say that when brianna's mother is in this chamber , shame parading as a man chamber, shame parading as a man of integrity when he's got absolute no responsibility , right. >> well , um, right. >> well, um, although that could the same could be said about him, to be fair, but let's start. welcome again to my clashes. gb news, a senior political commentator. nigel nelson , also brooks, a nelson, and also adam brooks, a businessman and activist. well, i've say , welcome, adam. i've got to say, welcome, adam. it's first time i've had you it's the first time i've had you on it's to here. on here. it's good to be here. i've watched at a distance i've watched you at a distance and he's got to get on i've watched you at a distance andshow. he's got to get on i've watched you at a distance andshow. pleased to get on i've watched you at a distance andshow. pleased to be on i've watched you at a distance andshow. pleased to be here. my show. i'm pleased to be here. thank well, actually, thank you. well, actually, i start adam, seeing he's

start with adam, seeing as he's the newbie here. adam, what did you all of that? you make of all of that? >> um, keir starmer has >> i think, um, keir starmer has weaponized opportunity >> i think, um, keir starmer has weweaponize opportunity >> i think, um, keir starmer has weweaponize , opportunity >> i think, um, keir starmer has weweaponize , uh, opportunity >> i think, um, keir starmer has weweaponize , uh, rishi'srtunity >> i think, um, keir starmer has weweaponize , uh, rishi's words . to weaponize, uh, rishi's words. and, you know, his lawyer heads. come on. and he thought, you know, i'm going to attack him here like he's in a courtroom. um, i think it was virtue signalling. i'm surprised he didn't on one knee. didn't get down on one knee. why? he said be fair, why? he said it. to be fair, keir starmer. why? he said it. to be fair, keir starmer . um, but there's a keir starmer. um, but there's a there's a big point here is that we should not allow who, you know , who's in the in the know, who's in the in the balcony to influence the chamber and the debates. and i mean, i think it's parliament paragraph 2130 that says there should be no reference to people in the balcony. now surely keir starmer did that. he's broke the mps code. did that. he's broke the mps code . um, but the important code. um, but the important thing for me is that rishi sunak is right to challenge keir starmer because there's a lot of voters that are worried about labour and keir starmers gender ideology stance . uh, 51% of the ideology stance. uh, 51% of the voters are women . now, if you

voters are women. now, if you cannot define what a woman is, you know what hope have we got going forward? what hope is i'm a father of three kids, two daughters. what sort of future is going to under is there going to be under a labour government where the leader, minister leader, the prime minister hasn't to hasn't got the balls to determine what a woman is? just in case he offends nought point 4% or something of the population . it's my view that population. it's my view that no, uh, man can become a woman and no boy can become a girl. now that's my opinion. so you know, we can't let emotions of a tragedy. and this is a tragedy. this this young person was brutally murdered by monsters and nothing takes that away. and i would not want to disrespect that in any way, but i cannot call brianna a girl, because if i was to do that , i would have i was to do that, i would have to call eddie izzard a woman. he isn't . so i'm i'm pretty strong isn't. so i'm i'm pretty strong on the direction of travel and the calling out of this, this

trans agenda. and i think rishi sunak was right and he's got nothing to apologise for. >> nigel nelson i think rishi sunak, who is, is a very naive politician who can't think on his feet. >> um, i mean, the whole thing is let's just take away the fact of brianna's mother being in the commons at the time . commons at the time. >> was bad enough. this was >> that was bad enough. this was a but listen, you could do that about anything. >> i mean, what is somebody with a leg out there, and a wooden leg is out there, and you about people you said something about people with i mean, with wooden legs. i mean, you can't i mean, you can't can't just. i mean, you can't know saying that know the reason i'm saying that is this is that is that this was a horrific murder of a young trans woman, which was dominating the pubuc woman, which was dominating the public consciousness at the time. >> yeah. so the first thing is these are pre—prepared notes that rishi sunak made before prime ministers questions. the first thing is he should never have said it. that joke should not been in there at a time not have been in there at a time like this . perfectly reasonable like this. perfectly reasonable to criticise keir starmer for flip flopping if he wants to just leave that bit out once. but why ? well, because of a of a but why? well, because of a of a really horrific case actually.

is, is um, people are thinking about that. don't make a trans joke when a, when a trans girl has been murdered . has been murdered. >> but that's an assumption that it a trans joke. i don't it is a trans joke. i don't happen to think a trans happen to think it's a trans joke. it's a joke at something that keir starmer which that keir starmer said, which was ludicrous. another was ludicrous. so it's another u—turn later then u—turn because you later then said that 99.9 .99 9, you know , said that 99.9 .99 9, you know, so and then he later then confirmed that actually a woman is an adult human female. so it was a u—turn. and that was the point of it. >> that absolutely the point >> that was absolutely the point of the but there was of it. but the but there was also litany of other also a whole litany of other u—turns that he was going on. leave that one out. but why ? leave that one out. but why? >> why? that's really important. u—turn to me. why? well to me is a woman. i'm a woman and i want it. that is another very important u—turn as equally as important u—turn as equally as important as all of the others . important as all of the others. why is that one not as important as the other? well i mean, you might as say that you'd might as well say that you'd make about chemical make jokes about chemical attacks after. >> after the abdul wasn't >> after the abdul ezedi wasn't a about chemical attack. >> p- p— >> then you might bring it in. yes, but not. >> but but not when it is

>> but not. but not when it is in such taste. i'm in such bad taste. what i'm saying is about me? saying is that about me? >> think it's in bad >> i don't think it's in bad taste . a woman. that's taste. i'm a woman. that's another important u turn another very important u turn that i'm listening to, and i'm quite but you're that quite angry. but you're that you're background you're against the background background trans background of a young trans woman has been murdered. >> we have a situation where the father of that girl has asked rishi sunak to apologise for making this. yes. for making this statement . he should have this statement. he should have apologised immediately. >> motion should not. a motion >> a motion should not. a motion should influence our should not influence our politicians. it does all the politicians. but it does all the time of the day. if i know, if i. keir starmer becomes prime i. if keir starmer becomes prime minister, it looks like he's going to suddenly there is going to and suddenly there is going to and suddenly there is going to and suddenly there is going to be a debate on so and so why just the, the, so why not just fill the, the, the balcony with, with people that going to be offended to that are going to be offended to try and him down? this is try and shut him down? this is this the and sets this opens the door and sets a precedent so, so many bad precedent for so, so many bad things our parliament. and things in our parliament. and i think, you know, again , when think, you know, again, when keir starmer's words are still pretty insulting to women that he says 99.9% of women now don't

have a penis , no keir starmer, have a penis, no keir starmer, no women, no woman, no woman can have a penis. a woman is an aduu have a penis. a woman is an adult female. that's right. you know it is. >> it is the official position in this country that a woman can have a penis. in this country that a woman can havwell,anis. in this country that a woman can havwell, no,. in this country that a woman can havwell, no, but they can't. >> well, no, but they can't. >> well, no, but they can't. >> well, no, but they can't. >> well, i mean, why , whether >> well, i mean, why, whether you it or not, clearly you you like it or not, clearly you don't. official don't. that is the official position of britain. that a woman that means a trans woman can have a penis. >> no, it means a woman. a trans woman can claim that they're a woman, but it doesn't mean a woman, but it doesn't mean a woman can. no, no, no, no, those are very different things. are two very different things. they a a woman they are a woman. a trans woman may they're a woman, may want to say they're a woman, and law they might be allowed and in law they might be allowed to do that. but that doesn't mean a woman has a penis. mean that a woman has a penis. >> well, it it under >> well, it does. it does under the gender recognition act, which actually the law which which is actually the law which governs this this particular area. is if area. so what that says is if that supersedes biology , that law supersedes biology, well, but it's the law of the land. it is the law of the land passed in 2004, is a woman. well, i think the keir starmer is right. a woman is an adult female . that doesn't that female. that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't . then then

doesn't that doesn't. then then rule out somebody who is a trans woman. so what i'm saying is that the, the position of the in the country at the moment is to change your , your gender and change your, your gender and your birth certificate and on your birth certificate and on your passport, you know, gender recognition certificate . it you recognition certificate. it you get that by living for two years in your acquired gender. and then having a diagnosis of gender dysphoria and going before a board to decide if all thatis before a board to decide if all that is in order, then you can change your gender. so there's nothing about surgery. >> i'm going to ask you, nigel, you're obviously a labour supporter , eddie izzard. is he a supporter, eddie izzard. is he a man or a woman ? man or a woman? >> i don't know, i would have to . i would have to ask any. no, no, i don't know. i don't know the answer. >> he does. sometimes changes. >> w- e the women's toilets. >> is that right or not? >> is that right or not? >> is that right or not? >> i think that when it comes to, um , women only spaces that to, um, women only spaces that is an element that should be protected in the same way that a trans woman cannot compete in

women's sport. i understand those things. what we're talking about here is that a woman can have a penis, because that's what the law says. >> no, it doesn't , but it does >> no, it doesn't, but it does say that it says that. >> going back to brianna , uh, >> going back to brianna, uh, she i cannot call that that unfortunate victim a girl because i, i the fact is , um, because i, i the fact is, um, that person was a boy that identified as a girl and it's all right. the parents saying we, you know, rishi sunak got to apologise, but it's not up to the parents to dictate to our politicians. absolutely >> well, facts. well, listen, we've run out of time on that one. listen, what do you think? at home? vaiews@gbnews.com was, uh, apologise? we uh, should we she apologise? we asked yesterday. asked that yesterday. or who should then should apologise. but then was keir starmer then keir starmer right to then pursue and kind of say that pursue this and kind of say that we she needs to apologise. i don't he but what do don't think he does. but what do you gb views com you think gb views gb news. com tweet me at gb news. is gb tweet me at gb news. this is gb news. we the people's news. we are the people's channel. nana akua coming channel. i'm nana akua coming up. questions are being raised

about as the about trust in police as the manhunt the suspected alkali manhunt for the suspected alkali killer . um, manhunt for the suspected alkali killer. um, uh abdul ezedi . uh, killer. um, uh abdul ezedi. uh, do you believe that he's in the river? what do you think? up next. so, as eu officials call for sanctions on the american journalist, carlson journalist, was tucker carlson right interview

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching. 23 minutes after 3:00. this is gp news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we're still going on about this woman thing, but what do you think? gb views that gb news. com i will read some of those out now this week. i don't know you watched it. know whether you watched it. vladimir putin held a blockbuster the blockbuster interview with the american tucker american journalist tucker carlson. over 200 carlson. i think it was over 200 million people watched it. and in the interview, the russian president the invasion in the interview, the russian pres necessary the invasion in the interview, the russian presnecessary to the invasion in the interview, the russian pres necessary to prevent |vasion in the interview, the russian pres necessary to prevent ukraine was necessary to prevent ukraine from posing a threat to russia by joining nato and claim that the war could have been over 18 months ago. but boris johnson

apparently stopped it. well, carlson carlson has faced backlash for his interview with vladimir putin with talk of the eu possibly even sanctioning him. uh, so was he right to do that interview? well let's welcome again to my clash of gb news political commentator nigel nelson and adam brooks, businessman and activist . uh, businessman and activist. uh, i'm going to start with you, nigel nelson. >> um, first of all, i think if a journalist is offered an interview with a world leader, they take so no, they should take it. so no, i don't that tucker carlson don't think that tucker carlson did wrong by by going did anything wrong by by going for the interview. i'm surprised that the eu thinks there's somehow more breaches. hate laws or whatever. i don't see how that can be be the case. however however, i wish that he'd been be that putin had been interviewed by better interviewer. it was a terribly rambling interview. putin made claims that tucker carlson didn't contest . claims that tucker carlson didn't contest. he didn't even bnng didn't contest. he didn't even bring up repression in russia or war crimes in ukraine. those are things that a proper interviewer

would have done . would have done. >> well, maybe if he had, he would be dead. >> i mean, in which case, don't go for the interview. >> i mean, you've got to get what can as a journalist. what you can as a journalist. you're not going to say, oh, no, vladimir, you know, vladimir putin and any world leader will give to what give you restrictions as to what you ask. you can and can't ask. >> well, i wouldn't the >> well, i wouldn't do the interview of interview on the basis of restriction. well, might restriction. well, you might get something them that you something out of them that you you do what? something out of them that you youcome do what? something out of them that you youcome on, do what? something out of them that you youcome on, nigel, io what? something out of them that you youcome on, nigel, you1at? something out of them that you youcome on, nigel, you would go >> come on, nigel, you would go you would go and interview. >> i mean, if you're under. >> i mean, not if you're under. so you so many restrictions where you couldn't actually the couldn't actually ask the questions. point questions. there's no point in doing have to doing that. you would have to have free now have some kind of free hand. now yes. you do an interview yes. when you do an interview with a senior politician, we do draw parameters it. draw parameters around it. what's well, the what's the difference? well, the only that the only difference is that the parameters usually parameters are usually usually time constraints. the only real difference is what you are going to that if to ask that person. if i couldn't ask putin and i've been granted the interview about war crimes in ukraine, we you would use his answer, whatever it might be. what is the point of the interview? >> what do you think ? >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> firstly, i'm glad we're out of the eu because i think they're showing they're

authoritarian side again, you know, with these threats . um, know, with these threats. um, look, the shock and horror that a journalist is doing journalists things is quite amusing. uh, the outrage that's been i'm glad you've sort of got more a sensible approach on that . uh, many on the left haven't, uh, nigel, um, let let's remember, if we go back to the weapons of mass destruction days , imagine someone had gone and interviewed saddam or the leaders at that time. maybe we could have averted a war if we'd got a bigger picture. we've got both sides. if we go back to that time, we was all told, headunes that time, we was all told, headlines by every newspaper that there was weapons of mass destruction. everyone got behind. well, 90% of the country probably got behind this military action because the papers told us so. now this is the danger. now is the newspapers and the bbc and everyone else tell us what we need to believe . and i think need to believe. and i think covid sort of opened a lot of people's eyes, especially mine.

you know, we cannot just believe what we're told. we have to question things. we have to see both sides , is what tucker has both sides, is what tucker has done here has given me an insight more into the thought process of what do you think you learned from the interview, though? it's hard. you know, though? um, it's hard. you know, i learned a lot of russian history , um, which went on and history, um, which went on and on for 30 minutes. >> so we could have done without that bit. >> and let's be honest, i am a publican and i am a normal person. and a lot of what he said over head and i'm said went over my head and i'm not to, know, not not going to, you know, i'm not going to lie with that. but it gave me an insight into the sort of maybe that is as of person, maybe that he is as to told he become. he to what we're told he become. he he looked more human, you know , he looked more human, you know, we thought, you know, i do not like putin because i think what he's done in ukraine is disgusting. and the lives that are lost. but we we're getting more of a human side to him to maybe understand and his, his thinking. >> so it was a successful pr job. on putin's behalf on that bafis.l job. on putin's behalf on that

basis . i just job. on putin's behalf on that basis. i just think this is what the eu are complaining. >> look, basically, firstly, we're not at war with russia. it doesn't matter you doesn't matter what, you know, people try and spin. we people try and try and spin. we are not at war with russia this is between ukraine and russia at the moment. so, you know, we are not not um, in viewing or not we're not um, in viewing or he's not interviewing the enemy as such . um, but look , it could as such. um, but look, it could be pr for, for putin, but i think it's, it's very it's a learning curve for people, normal people to see another side. and what a lot of what he said, i didn't believe . said, i didn't believe. >> oh yes. >> oh yes. >> that's fine. i mean, a lot of what he did said makes me want to go and learn more about russia and their history and the conflicts. so i think it's only a good thing. and if it's opened more people's eyes to actually thinking , more people's eyes to actually thinking, right, i'm going to search and try and find both search out and try and find both sides so i can understand sides here so i can understand that's a good thing because we cannot mail, cannot have the daily mail, we cannot have the daily mail, we cannot the sun, we cannot cannot have the sun, we cannot have the guardian tell us what we think. and that has we have to think. and that has been over many decades. we have to think. and that has been the over many decades. we have to think. and that has been the thingar many decades. we have to think. and that has been the thing is many decades. we have to think. and that has been the thing is ,|any decades. we have to think. and that has been the thing is , i ny decades. we have to think. and that has been the thing is , i don't:ades. >> but the thing is, i don't know whether the eu have point

know whether the eu have a point at all. i actually thought it was that we spoke to him, was good that we spoke to him, because he did say for me because what he did say for me was about nuclear was that he talked about nuclear war saw it as mad as war and how he saw it as mad as in mutual assisted destruction . in mutual assisted destruction. yeah, be. so it yeah, everyone will be. so it sort of disarmed the notion that he is just going to press the button and nuclear war, you know, because kind know, because that's kind of what been fed in a way. what we've been fed in a way. >> the headlines say that's important. >> you know, i think that's really important. i think that what we've learned and that's what we've learned and that's what this the what i learned, this is the point the point that that that the takeaways from that, other takeaways from that, the other one if americans one was that if americans actually send troops to ukrainian soil, actually send troops to ukrainian soil , then we could be ukrainian soil, then we could be in a world war. well, of course we could. in the same way, if russian troops went onto nato soil, we would be in a be in a world war. in a sense, those things are a bit obvious. but yes, i mean, that's why yes, i mean, but that's why i think always give these think you always give these people a to it. i'd people a chance to say it. i'd love interview putin. i'd love to interview putin. i'd love to interview putin. i'd love to interview kim jong un, and there's whole load of and there's a whole load of dictators who would be dictators out there who would be on sort bucket of on my sort of bucket list of people go you'd a people to go for. you'd need a translator, well, translator, though, nigel. well, i yes. yeah

i probably would, yes. yeah i think tucker carlson needed a translator. putin again. >> again. one thing you just said it sort of. it's taken away that fear that there's going to be an immediate nuclear, a nuclear war, which our papers and our media seem to love, stoking it out there. you know, my kids are well, the generals have been stoking that up. but my have asked me, well, my kids have asked me, well, dad, is there going to be a nuclear war? they see it nuclear war? because they see it on that may on headlines and that this may be of just down that down a bit, i i it's a good i think. i think it's a good thing i think what he has done actually of the actually is kind of dulled the turned down. turned the dial down. >> yeah. on all of talk >> yeah. on all of the talk of nuclear which be nuclear war, which could be a trap, don't know, because he's trap, i don't know, because he's a master at that. but, you know, i wanted to hear that part of it. well, listen, you it. well, listen, what do you think? gb wsj.com think? gb views gb news wsj.com this is a gb i'm nana this is a gb news. i'm nana akua. we're tv, online akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio, coming up after the several after several books that were listed for sale, which reported to share exclusive revelations about the king's health that turned out to

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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. if you're just tuned in, where have you been ? tuned in, where have you been? well, it's 36 after three. i'm nana akua and of course it's time for the clash. and up next there is a continued debate over there is a continued debate over the whereabouts of suspected alkali attacker abdul ezedi , alkali attacker abdul ezedi, with his disappearance raising questions about the public trust in the police . many are saying, in the police. many are saying, how is it that somebody in this day and age , someone who's got day and age, someone who's got half a face, literally one side is, you know, that we can't track down. but yet if you do go through a traffic light or whatever, they've got your car plate, they can speed in home in and see your face. police believe that they say he may have entered the thames, but do you believe abdul ezedi is in fact in the river? well, let's welcome again to my clashes. gb

news senior political commentator and commentator nigel nelson and also businessman also adam brookes, businessman and do you believe and activist adam do you believe he's in the river? >> it's hard. i've lost a lot of trust in the met over various things over the last few years, but what what worried me. i was one of the big first big accounts on twitter that was questioning why they wasn't issuing a description of abdul . issuing a description of abdul. now they was asking the public for help in finding him , but we for help in finding him, but we didn't know what he looked like . didn't know what he looked like. now, i think that's unacceptable and i question why the comms teams or who made that decision not to put his description out. there was a picture of him. >> i remember seeing him. yeah, but not not until many, many hours later. >> and they on twitter, they was they appealing for and they was appealing for help and um, trying to solve the case. but didn't know what but the public didn't know what he looked like. we didn't know who or. is who he was or. that is ridiculous . ridiculous. >> now, although he had one side of his face burnt so that would have we still didn't know have been we still didn't know that they not issue

that they they did not issue a description, uh, of the man, which it didn't make sense . which it didn't make sense. >> but what, what worries me with the met is that it's probably very likely that he has gone into the river thames, but there is this doubt now, you know, they didn't tell us this so suddenly they're telling oh , so suddenly they're telling oh, us, we were seen on the bridge. we are one that i think we're the third most, uh, cctv , uh, the third most, uh, cctv, uh, city in the world. so it's quite hard to believe that we don't know exactly where this man is. um but i think the last update is that they see him going onto the bridge and not coming off. so i tend to probably lean to the fact that he is in the thames somewhere now, but i think they did it all wrong. and over the last few weeks we've been told the met's going to stop the pro—palestinian protests. they haven't. we were told recently they was going to arrest people masks. they arrest people in masks. they haven't . so, you know, please haven't. so, you know, please bear with us why we don't believe everything that the met tells us. i think their comms teams are pretty bad. nigel

dawson, um, i tend to agree with adam. >> i think that all the evidence that we've been able to see points to the fact he ended up in the river. um, so i'm prepared to believe the police on it to be on that. it seems to be inconceivable that somebody with with half his face burnt away, could be wandering around and nobody would spot him. and that bit of footage that you've just shown, which shows that him going on to the bridge but not coming off the bridge, is, is a pretty good evidence, circumstantial, he circumstantial, albeit that he probably, did end up end up probably, um, did end up end up in the thames. when it comes down to the trust and the police , i think that, um , by drawing , i think that, um, by drawing that conclusion, we're saying, look, the police have explained their thought processes. it makes sense . therefore we accept makes sense. therefore we accept that. so i kind of trust what they're saying in the sense that it does make sense. it's where i think adam's point there was quite good, where if the police stop making sense, that's when we're going to stop trusting them. >> um , does seem that there's no >> um, does seem that there's no other camera, so that's the only

there are black spots. >> and with with cctv. >> and with with cctv. >> the other camera, though, you wouldn't just have one there. there must be another one further up that could give a different angle. somewhere. somewhere must somewhere somewhere there must be. nothing . be. there's nothing. >> there's nothing to gain from the from the met lying over the met. from the met lying over this apart from maybe covering some of the mistakes that they've made . um, in the lead up they've made. um, in the lead up to this . but i don't know why to this. but i don't know why you know, i read some things on twitter and that, you know, these conspiracy theories. what what they got from hiding what have they got from hiding the truth over this man? i think they have made mistakes in the early stages of this investigation. and maybe they're they're scrambling to try and make themselves look a little bit more professional . make themselves look a little bit more professional. um that, that that's my view on it. but i think until we find a body , i'm think until we find a body, i'm not prepared to 100% believe that this guy is dead. >> yeah, because i don't know. i just feel it's too quick. they've come to the assumption too view. unless too quickly, in my view. unless they more than they're they know more than they're telling why would

telling us. but then why would they hide what know when they hide what they know when and turn out that he and if it does turn out that he is alive? >> they're going to look >> yeah, they're going to look so stupid. so ridiculous and so stupid. yeah, that's true. yeah, i think that's true. that's yeah, i think that's true. thayeah, that's that's the >> yeah, that's that's the problem i'm having with it. i think need investigate think they need to investigate a bit more quick message to you, nigel. david, he said there nigel. so david, he said there are only men and women and in and the inbetweeners but they are still either man or woman with bits added or bits taken away. end of tell. nigel >> well thank you, david. >> well thank you, david. >> you've been told right. well it's. what do you think it's been reported that boris johnson expects telephone an expect soon rishi sunak to telephone him or call him personally if he wants to ask for his help. campaign in the general election, it emerged with. the conservative strategist to deploy the strategist wants to deploy the former prime minister on the campaign trail. later this year. despite the bad blood between them, with many claiming that bofisis them, with many claiming that boris is only man who could boris is the only man who could perhaps still save tories . perhaps still save the tories. do you think anything can save them? no that's not the question. but does she need to

bnng question. but does she need to bring boris back ? like who did bring boris back? like who did i go to you for? i'll go to you. what do you think again? >> over the last four years, i've even loved boris or loathed him. um, but one thing. you can't away from boris. he's can't take away from boris. he's probably the only superstar mp . probably the only superstar mp. he or he's not an mp. now that is around politics. if boris walks down the street, hundreds will gather. i'm not. i'm sorry, but if rishi did that, hundreds will not gather and follow him down the road . um, i think it's down the road. um, i think it's clear that rishi and boris hate each other . and clear that rishi and boris hate each other. and i think boris is probably right not to like rishi. he spent a year plotting to sort of take his crown. he even, um, i think he registered a website for his leadership campaign. a year before that happened.so campaign. a year before that happened. so he's obviously very devious. rishi in this, in this, uh, area . yeah. i don't know uh, area. yeah. i don't know what boris gets out of it because , uh, boris coming back because, uh, boris coming back as just some sort of, you know, if they put him in the lords and

put him in the cabinet, that might get a few votes. but it's certainly not going to overturn a 25 point, uh , deficit in the a 25 point, uh, deficit in the polls . um, i a 25 point, uh, deficit in the polls. um, i do a 25 point, uh, deficit in the polls . um, i do believe, though, polls. um, i do believe, though, if boris was somehow installed as prime minister again or leader of the conservatives, it would be a lot closer for in a general election. i think it would actually be a battle . you would actually be a battle. you know, it could go either way . know, it could go either way. >> right. of nelson. >> right. of nelson. >> well , you >> right. of nelson. >> well, you can probably guess what i'm going say. um what i'm going to say. um firstly, no, rishi should not give up boris johnson a call. um, i don't think it um, secondly, i don't think it would the election very would help the election very much. of them much. firstly, the two of them can't i mean that can't work together. i mean that the the that, um, rishi was the that the that, um, rishi was basically responsible for boris johnson's demise, the end of his government. so how the two of them could operate together, their different personalities, different way of governing. there are too many things far apart as far as whether you'd actually be an asset on the election campaign. despite all those things, we've got to remember how actually the boris johnson government fell, that

within three days, just before he resign owed 56 ministers and pps , had quit because they no pps, had quit because they no longer had any confidence in him . that hasn't gone away that the parliament party don't have confidence in him. so the idea that he can somehow come back, it's just a bit of a myth. >> i think that you don't think that they were sort of caught on a wave of, of this partygate, partygate and everything else that because that surrounded it because ultimately, are ultimately, where they are now, i wish they hadn't. i bet they wish they hadn't. i bet wish hadn't . bet they wish they hadn't. >> signalling. oh, >> and virtue signalling. oh, look bad man. he's causing us look at bad man. he's causing us a problem. at the end of the a problem. but at the end of the day, he was only 7 or day, i believe he was only 7 or 8% polls after 4. 8% behind in the polls after 4. was ? was it? >> it was only four. >> it was only four. >> wasn't that bad, >> it wasn't that bad, considering they've been in power so that shows power for so long. so that shows you quite effect boris you quite what an effect boris did have on the electorate. and again , i will stand by if for again, i will stand by if for some reason boris was installed as leader of the conservative party. it's a 5050. in an election straight away in my opinion. >> yeah, i think he's, you know, i'm warming more to that

prospect. if it were to happen that there would be more people, more willing to look to the tory party although you have to party but although you have to admit it's just admit that on these it's just the things that they've done, the things that they've done, the whole thing is a mess. the constant changing the deckchairs and moving jobs. >> i think the tory party, i think, is finished as an electoral force this round . electoral force this time round. >> didn't >> conservative party didn't listen to their voters. they listened other and listened to each other and advisers. and i believe the advisers. and i believe the advisers around the tory party have cost them this election. and these polls, this poll demise . demise. >> there's a lot of incompetence thrown in, too. i mean, we've got, you know, the cost of living crisis and the fact that this government can't, can't sort out the nhs, but you can't blame the cost of living crisis. >> the nhs solely on the >> all the nhs solely on the tory party. let's honest , tory party. let's be honest, there's lot of factors there, there's a lot of factors there, but haven't out but they haven't sorted out even the party supported boris the labour party supported boris and tories in all their and the tories in all their goals regard to the goals with regard to the pandemic and in fact, during the pandemic and in fact, during the pandemic they wanted more lockdowns, and harder, lockdowns, longer and harder, everything so we would be

everything more so we would be in an even bigger crisis. so and they all acted as one. so they had a united there was a national emergency and they should, they should they should do well, you said do that. well, i'm glad you said that. and so that you admit that you boris. you can't really blame boris. the crisis that the cost of living crisis that has result of it. has emerged as a result of it. >> the cost of >> well, i mean, the cost of living crisis is not just about about covid. it's partly about the in ukraine. is the war in ukraine. what is happening east now happening in the middle east now doesn't help. so, no, i mean, i doesn't help. so, no, i mean, i do understand government is not totally mess totally responsible for the mess we're in. this government is not doing get us out it. >> well, i would agree with that. but then i think they have resistance from unions who have literally collaborated to ensure that they get rid of the tories. the pcs union. was it mark serwotka, the head of it? he's even said that yes, we will do everything we can to get rid of the tories. what do think? the tories. what do you think? gb gb com gb views at gb news. com or tweet gb this is gb tweet me at gb news. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. do you think? get channel. what do you think? get in usual means. in touch by the usual means. coming , amazon was to coming up, amazon was forced to remove books on the king's health written by i. should we

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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> fast approaching 51 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua now. amazon have removed several books from sale after concerns were raised that they contained false information about the king's cancer diagnosis . several books were diagnosis. several books were listed for sale, which were reported to share exclusive of revelation, revelations about his health and were said to be written by i with misinformation. should we all be worried? nigel nelson , welcome worried? nigel nelson, welcome again to my classes. nigel nelson gb news senior political commentator and also adam brooks, businessman and activist. nigel nelson . activist. nigel nelson. >> yes, we should um, absolutely . i mean, i think that, um, the way things are moving big tech companies, i mean, amazon in this case, but it it applies to

google , facebook, they are the google, facebook, they are the biggest danger to free speech at the moment that i can think of . the moment that i can think of. so in this case, here you are . i so in this case, here you are. i is creating books with no basis in fact at all. and there will be people out there who will believe them. the same way that google and facebook use algorithms to use use stories from from news website sites and then promote them . but they then promote them. but they decide what stories should be promoted and what shouldn't. and then you've got these bubble filters, which means that you if you like something, you'll get fed more of it. but what you won't get is opinions. you might disagree with. so you're suddenly in this kind of, um , suddenly in this kind of, um, vacuum where you look, where you're looking down just at the opinions that you go along with. and that's bad for politics, bad for democracy . you ought to be for democracy. you ought to be challenged. you ought to look at the alternative arguments as we do here. >> well, i mean, look, but i didn't get itself together and decide to do this. somebody did

this. >> well, someone pressed the button and said, go. >> it's good that you >> and it's good that you made that a lot of the that point because a lot of the people that feed the information into ai and these tech companies are very left leaning . nigel. so are very left leaning. nigel. so elon musk has brought this up before the danger of ai suddenly becoming this all fountain of knowledge. but it's going to feed our kids and us sort of lefty information and lefty agendas, whether it's left or right, it's wrong. >> it shouldn't be there. but it's going to be left the agenda. >> so it's going to be dangerous anyway. whatever it is. what anyway. whatever way it is. what also worries me about al you also worries me about al is, you know, we've seen i've seen on on twitter, know, certain twitter, you know, certain celebs in very compromising positions in photos. it's not them. it's i generated. we see it with the gaza conflict as well, where, you know, these pictures of kids in rubble that were actually i generated and went around to millions of people on the internet. so ai can be used very effectively for propaganda for and i think it's going to be a very dangerous

tool. the next war could be sort of won and lost via , i think of won and lost via, i think with the propaganda on the internet. i mean, another thing about al is the kids doing their homework on, uh, ai as well. >> a good thing . well, listen, >> a good thing. well, listen, if no one can tell the difference, i don't know if i was a kid, would i do it? i think i probably might try. i used other means to get, uh , used other means to get, uh, people to do stuff for me . use people to do stuff for me. use your imagination. but keep it clean . some of you getting your clean. some of you getting your messages in. thank you so much. uh, peter, on sarkare. starmer said keir starmer was wrong to use that poor effeminate boy's murder to score a couple of cheap cheers in the commons, just as rishi sunak was wrong to call him out for being so woke. they're both on the election trail, so i think we're going to be bombarded with said this be bombarded with you, said this and that just hope the and he said that just hope the voting public can see beyond these clowns . yeah, but they are these clowns. yeah, but they are these clowns. yeah, but they are the only clowns. sadly. uh, chloe says i have no trust left in our police and therefore i don't believe that he is in the

river. yeah, struggling to don't believe that he is in the rivethat, h, struggling to don't believe that he is in the rivethat, to struggling to don't believe that he is in the rivethat, to get struggling to don't believe that he is in the rivethat, to get to uggling to don't believe that he is in the rivethat, to get to grips|g to don't believe that he is in the rivethat, to get to grips with get that, to get to grips with that sam says, i think that too. and sam says, i think we must have trust in the met. he is, course, in the river. he is, of course, in the river. they have so they have done so much searching. would found searching. they would have found out by now. really, out if he wasn't by now. really, do think? well, listen, do you think? well, listen, thank thoughts. thank you for your thoughts. keep uh, i've got keep them coming. uh, i've got to very my to say thank you very much. my head nigel nelson head to head and nigel nelson and brooks, they will and also adam brooks, they will be back for the next half hour. uh, but on the way, my monologue on sir keir starmer and mass strikes, the fabulous christine hamilton and danny kelly will be here. but first, it's the . weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office this mornings cloudy mist and fog is slowly clearing its way off to provide more in the way of sunnier spells for the way of sunnier spells for the rest of the afternoon and even into the next few days. still quite persistent

still got some quite persistent rain northern isles. rain across the northern isles. a very wet end to for sunday shetland, and also some quite frequent parts of frequent showers for parts of northern turning over scotland turning wintry over higher throughout higher ground areas throughout the but elsewhere there the night. but elsewhere there are spells in between are some clear spells in between those those those showers. underneath those clear though, clear skies, though, temperatures will take a little bit into low bit of a tumble down into low single for many of us, a single figures for many of us, a patchy frost in rural spots maybe around. maybe some icy stretches around. first morning. but first thing in the morning. but generally is a day of generally monday is a day of sunshine and showers. those showers will most frequent showers will be most frequent over the north and west, over towards the north and west, with blustery with some quite blustery winds around times. towards around at times. those towards the south, though the east and the south, though more to stay drier and more likely to stay drier and actually fairly pleasant fine actually a fairly pleasant fine day number day with a decent number of sunny intervals in there. temperatures generally range between 6 and 10 c, which is around where we'd expect them to be this point in the year. be for this point in the year. on tuesday, we still have this area of pressure in the area of low pressure in the far north, bringing a breezy, north, bringing again a breezy, blustery picture with some showers. high showers. but this ridge of high pressure showers. but this ridge of high press slightly finer, drier for a slightly finer, drier start with some sunny spells once again, but really , all eyes once again, but really, all eyes will be turning to this area in the we see cloud the southwest as we see cloud thicken and outbreaks of rain

eventually the eventually arrive throughout the day, that will increasingly day, and that will increasingly spread other areas of spread further to other areas of the as we head throughout the the uk as we head throughout the middle point of the week, but also milder air trapped also some milder air trapped into temperatures into that. so temperatures are generally on generally going to be on an upwards by by looks like upwards climb by by looks like things are heating up . things are heating up. >> boxt boilers spot . hours of >> boxt boilers spot. hours of weather on gb news as

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christine hamilton and also broadcaster journalist danny broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. we get started, kelly. before we get started, let's get your latest . news let's get your latest. news >> nana. thank you very much. good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it'sjust good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 4:00 leading the news this afternoon. we've heard that us president joe speak to israeli joe biden will speak to israeli president benjamin netanyahu to discuss a planned israeli invasion on in the southern gaza city of rafah, after previously describing it as over the top. it comes as israel begins mobilising its troops in preparation for that ground invasion. earlier, israeli tanks and bulldozers were seen operating along the border with gaza. you can see here on the screen explosions and smoke from the israeli ground operation currently taking place in the nearby khan younis area, that could be seen from rafah as the city awaits the full scale invasion. benjamin netanyahu, though, says that he does have a plan to evacuate civilians from

the crowded area. yesterday at least 44 people, including several children, died in what the palestinians claim were israeli air strikes . the defence israeli air strikes. the defence secretary has said today that he is furious over the ministry of defence's diversity and inclusion policy. he's been reported in today's telegraph that the army wants to relax security clearance vetting for overseas recruits to boost diversity and inclusion in grant shapps told the sunday telegraph that he's ready to go to battle over the matter and that he's ordered a review . he's warned ordered a review. he's warned there will be no lowering of security clearance requirements on his watch, according to the paper , the uk's armed forces are paper, the uk's armed forces are also looking overseas because they've reportedly failed to hit their recruitment targets , with their recruitment targets, with two people have been arrested after an eight year old child was seriously injured in a suspected xl bully attack. the dog had bitten the child's head in merseyside yesterday afternoon. he's had emergency surgery and we understand

remains in a serious but stable condition. doctors say his injuries are life changing . injuries are life changing. officers have seized the dog, which they believe to be an xl bully, a 49 year old woman and a 30 year old man have been arrested and though they are not related to the child , the related to the child, the housing secretary is warning that young people are being shut out of the uk's housing market and it could turn to authoritarianism . michael gove authoritarianism. michael gove says a failure by the government to tackle the housing crisis could harm democracy , as well as could harm democracy, as well as the conservatives chance at the general election. in an interview with the times, he says the traditional route for young people to work hard and get on the housing ladder has now gone. gove criticised labour for, he says, continuously rejecting housing policies . rejecting housing policies. >> the difference between a party saying that its policy is pro builder , not blocker and pro builder, not blocker and then when we bring things forward every single conservative mp, every single conservative backed our

proposals for new homes and labour were whipped to a man and woman against it. so this is not about individuals, this is about about individuals, this is about a party that makes big claims. and yet, as we see time after time, it turns turtle. and that's why keir starmer is the jellyfish of british politics. he's transparent, spineless, swept along by the tide . swept along by the tide. >> well, in other news, 124 migrants crossed the english channel yesterday on three small boats, according to new figures. the latest arrivals bring the total for the year to just over 1500. that's down from 2072 at the same time last year, but up from the figure in 2022. apart from the figure in 2022. apart from the figure in 2022. apart from the latest crossing, small boats had not been intercepted since january. the 31st. the prime minister has made stopping the boats a key pledge of his leadership as the country approaches the upcoming general election . the departure of the election. the departure of the royal navy aircraft carrier hms prince of wales has been cancelled this afternoon at the

last minute it was about to set sail to replace its sister ship, which was also forced to cancel its deployment due to an issue with its propeller . the £3 with its propeller. the £3 billion vessel was set to take oven billion vessel was set to take over, leading the largest nato exercise since the cold war. however, despite people lining the of portsmouth harbour the walls of portsmouth harbour to watch the 65,000 tonne warship , it to watch the 65,000 tonne warship, it failed to to watch the 65,000 tonne warship , it failed to leave the warship, it failed to leave the jetty and the king has attended church in sandringham this morning for the first time since his cancer diagnosis , his his cancer diagnosis, his majesty was seen walking alongside queen camilla and last night king charles thanked the nafion night king charles thanked the nation for their overwhelming support in his first public message since the diagnosis announcement, the monarch said that kind thoughts are great comfort and encouragement to him. buckingham palace have said he's facing a form of cancer , he's facing a form of cancer, though they say it's unrelated to his recent prostate treatment . for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by

scanning the qr code on your screen. or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. i like to call this one a taste of things to come. a rock and a hard place. now i'm no fan of rishi sunak and the conservative party. i admit to voting for them because frankly, jeremy corbyn simply wasn't an option. i thought boris was hounded out of office in an unsavoury manner , a leader who unsavoury manner, a leader who gave them an 80 seat majority, their treatment of his predecessor, liz truss, was abhorrent. the parliamentary party unceremoniously dumped her for rishi, a move which appeared premeditated and they've shuffled the ministers around like a carousel. so shuffled the ministers around like a carousel . so frankly, like a carousel. so frankly, it's embarrassing . it would also it's embarrassing. it would also be fair to point out that they've had a pretty unfortunate

run of circumstance over the last few years. while giving the country a referendum on brexit was of their own making, and i believe that was the right thing to call . they've had a global to call. they've had a global pandemic, which arguably bankrupt the country, causing a cost of living crisis and rising inflation, which was exacerbated by the russian invasion of ukraine. the latter, the breadbasket of the world. the former an oil rich nation, which meant that the cost of food and fuel rocketed and now we're deaung fuel rocketed and now we're dealing with a conflict in gaza . dealing with a conflict in gaza. in between all of that , we've in between all of that, we've had strike galore as many try and pin their wages to the rising prices and others jump on a bandwagon to finally finish the tories off for good. although to be fair, they don't need anyone's help for that. and then there's the labour party, a party whose leader, sir keir starmer, struggled to define something as basic as a woman not yet at the seat of power. he's earned himself the nickname flip flop even from those who support him, because when he does give us a does eventually give us a

policy, he rolls back on it. the most recent , policy, he rolls back on it. the most recent, a policy, he rolls back on it. the most recent , a £28 policy, he rolls back on it. the most recent, a £28 billion one on green energy . and now his on green energy. and now his party has promised to give trade unions even more power, despite the fact that the country has been gripped by strikes , mainly been gripped by strikes, mainly by public sector workers . that's by public sector workers. that's teachers, doctors, nurses, rail workers. well, you know , you've workers. well, you know, you've been living through it as well . been living through it as well. and at the end of this month we have another doctor strike. we've just had to increase the pay we've just had to increase the pay of consultants who are earning over 100 grand because their wage has not gone up with inflation. welcome to the real world. honestly. i mean, who's wage is guaranteed to go up with inflation in the private sector? we have to fight for our pay rises or get another job. and apparently keir starmer , this is apparently keir starmer, this is the latest within his first 100 days, wants to tear up the laws that rein in the power of union chiefs . and he wants to bin the chiefs. and he wants to bin the new laws for minimum service levels for schools and hospitals and railways. the hard left who

dominate these unions have huge collective bargaining power and can bring this country to its knees, ordering workers to down tools so . the dark days of mass tools so. the dark days of mass strikes could be back again. god help . us. so before we get stuck help. us. so before we get stuck into the debate , here's what into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm is diversity and i'm asking is diversity and inclusion destroying our armed forces ? and that is ours. the forces? and that is ours. the british army wants to relax security recruits security checks for recruits from overseas to boost diversity and inclusion, but is the relentless drive for this inclusion a danger to the uk's security ? then, at 450, it's security? then, at 450, it's world view . we'll cross live to world view. we'll cross live to los angeles with paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast , to get the latest on podcast, to get the latest on the race for the white house. as the race for the white house. as the battle between joe biden and donald trump heats up at five, it's this week's outside now, my guest. he's a mystery . he's guest. he's a mystery. he's a

barrister and a former champion boxer. andy guest is. that's coming up in the next hour. boxer. andy guest is. that's coming up in the next hour . tell coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. now before i welcome my panel again. you don't want to miss this. the prime minister, rishi sunak, is going to appear exclusively here on gb news in our people's forum. it's an hour long q and a on the issues that matter to you. let's hear what he has say. hear what he has to say. >> hi rishi here as prime minister, i'm focussed on delivering on your priorities, so i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum on monday the 12th of february, where i'll be taking questions from a live audience about the issues that really matter to you. the economy, immigration, the nhs. see you there . there. >> that's right. so . there you

>> that's right. so. there you have it. that's tomorrow at 8 pm. the prime minister will be part of a special people's forum live on gb news but that will take place in north take place in the north east of england the course of england and over the course of the also take the hour, he'll also take questions from the questions directly from you, the great so get great british public. so get your questions ready for him. uh, right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel, author broadcaster christine author and broadcaster christine hamilton, also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. right i'm going to start with you, christine hamilton. what you christine hamilton. what do you think dark days are think the dark days are striking. mean, look , if they striking. i mean, look, if they get into power, everyone's saying flip flop saying they will. he's flip flop many times. i'm saying many times. i'm not saying he's better. he's worse. better. i don't say he's worse. i'm just saying. is that worse than we've already been through? >> yes . i through? >> yes. i mean, zero >> yes. i mean, i'm zero enthusiasm for the tories, but i've even zero zero enthusiasm for labour. but if anything, i would have thought this would put people off voting labour people who were on the borderline are. those are the people who both of them have got to attract. >> both the tories and labour have to attract the marginal have got to attract the marginal voters, are voters, not the ones who are already camps. already in their camps. >> would have thought

>> and i would have thought anyone thinking, anyone who was thinking, well, actually, a actually, let's give labour a 90, actually, let's give labour a go, would us right back go, it would take us right back to 1970s when it was beer to the 1970s when it was a beer and sandwiches in number and and sandwiches in number 10, and you of will you know, anyone of an age will remember the union bosses used to they were to turn up and they were welcomed by harold wilson, welcomed in by harold wilson, etc, the law down etc, and they laid the law down and they said, this is what's going do. the government going to do. and the government complied. get back to complied. we will get back to that. so i don't welcome it, but i may just help to put i think it may just help to put a few people off voting labour. and thank goodness for that . and thank goodness for that. >> what you think danny >> what do you think danny kelly? his one. kelly? this is his latest one. so to the back the so to give the unions back the power that has been taken away from for minimum from them for the minimum service, christine's added from them for the minimum senewe, christine's added from them for the minimum senew dimension s added from them for the minimum senew dimension s the added from them for the minimum senew dimension s the whole a new dimension to the whole story basically questions story that basically questions whether because whether it's true because i can't believe that he would go so militant so soon to an election papers. >> it must be true. >> it must be true. >> well it was it's been leaked. it's been leaked, it's been leaked. >> but i, i just wonder whether it's in detail 100% correct. it's in detail is 100% correct. tony blair's success he tony blair's success was that he managed sort of manage a bit managed to sort of manage a bit of socialism with a lot of capitalism. um, in 1978, 79, we had the winter of discontent.

uh, content, i think it was uh, disc content, i think it was called i don't know why i'm coming you for because coming to you for this, because you it more. >> i am old enough to remember it. >> it. that was freudian. >> sorry, that was freudian. that body of the dead that was the body of the dead were right. in were piled up. that's right. in the the the north—west and the north—east people weren't being buned north—east people weren't being buried a labour buried and that was a labour government. don't government. so people don't people fooled that if people mustn't be fooled that if there's government, the there's a labour government, the unions aren't going to and unions aren't going to try and kick him and try screw kick him and try and screw him for forget for every penny. don't forget that party is in the that the labour party is in the pockets many unions. that's pockets of many unions. that's where millions where they get millions of pounds donations. the pounds worth of donations. the point you've just made. point that you've just made. >> that's why do believe >> so that's why i do believe that this is true, because you know , they give a lot of money know, they give a lot of money to the labour party and they are what the labour party was built from. very from. so i would be very concerned about that actually, because as somebody because especially as somebody who's in the sector, who's in the private sector, because most of these unions that powerful are that are super powerful are covering within the public sector. >> i think it's a vote lose. i don't think it's a vote winner. anyone who's on the margins, i think it's vote loser . tony. i think it's a vote loser. tony. i go back to blair's success. go back to tony blair's success. people the hard left the people on the hard left of the party in the labour party, when

tony blair won in 1997, i think they were basically he's they were saying, basically he's a he's just tory, a red tory. he's just a tory, he's tory, he's he's a blue tory, but he's wearing red. and that was the success people on hard success of people on the hard left. because left. hated tony blair because he but tony he wasn't left enough. but tony blair had three times in the office, didn't he. yeah. >> he, he, offered what >> and he, he, he offered what people then wanted. he, he harnessed all the best bits of margaret thatcher. let's just overlook the disastrous john major harnessed all the best bits and yet pushed bits of thatcher. and yet pushed them forward with his own bland of is what of blairism, which is what people wanted . people wanted. >> a candidate for >> he was a candidate for change, and i don't see that. >> starmer is what people >> starmer this is what people want. change, don't want. they want change, don't they? we're they? i mean, look, we're all fed up back teeth with fed up to the back teeth with this. we slough this. yeah, we are slough of despond we're ploughing despond that we're all ploughing through at the moment. >> don't starmer >> but i don't see starmer offering that. >> and i certainly see >> and i certainly don't see this good flagship this being his a good flagship policy. but you're absolutely right. all the right. where are all the strikes? they are in the strikes? they are all in the pubuc strikes? they are all in the public private public sector. private sector doesn't strike. i can't oh doesn't go on strike. i can't oh no. 110. >> no. >> rolls royce went on strike a number of years ago. they've got a pay number of years ago. they've got a pay increase. a massive pay increase. that's a private employer . why one private sector employer. why one example. is just example. well it is it's just one of of my of my head.

one of the top of my of my head. >> is as well. and >> but the thing is as well. and if they do go strike, that's if they do go on strike, that's fine. but the bottom line is they not intrinsic the they are not intrinsic to the running at the running of this country at the very root of it. like, say, the nhs the teachers or the nhs or say the teachers or the railway, because you could argue are private employers, but they're really in a way, they're not really in a way, because it's all part of the pubuc because it's all part of the public this . public purse. it's all all this. >> it's an unholy mix. >> it's an unholy mix. >> the railways , isn't it? >> it's the railways, isn't it? it doesn't work. lot it. it doesn't work. a lot of it. they can take the power of the pubuc they can take the power of the public sector element and public sector element of it and also get , you know, us to also get, you know, hold us to ransom, what they've ransom, which is what they've all been doing. and there's more doctor strikes coming. the consultants to strike. consultants were able to strike. they on £100,000. and they were on over £100,000. and they because it's not gone they said, because it's not gone up my question up with inflation. my question was who in the was who's who's who in the private sector. and if you want it to go with inflation, you it to go up with inflation, you have sit down with your boss have to sit down with your boss and the pay rise and good and demand the pay rise and good luck. i all luck. you know, i think all these strikes, they continue these strikes, if they continue throughout the summer, will throughout the summer, they will play throughout the summer, they will play tories play into the into the tories hands people will hands because people will associate with supporting associate labour with supporting the well do. what would the >> well they do. what would the labour mps. >> so why would starmer shoot himself with

himself in the foot then, with the potential the leaking of this potential policy? what i don't understand. >> people who are, you >> he's people who are, you know, the public is know, the public sector is a massive sector, but i think they all support him. >> he's i think we >> then he's he's i think we live a small conservative live in a small c conservative country. do. country. i do. >> oh definitely. the >> oh definitely. yeah. the facts small facts of life are small c conservative too. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> think if this is true >> so i think if this is true he's shooting himself in the foot, which me question foot, which makes me question the it. the veracity of it. >> does this all the time >> but he does this all the time though, there's all though, doesn't he. there's all these mean, these policies. i mean, the green was green energy policy was a machine both feet at the machine gun to both feet at the same time, isn't it 28 million, billion billion bang bang bang. i mean, that's just mad ness. it is extraordinary. >> i mean, he's this nickname flip flop, which i think was originally by gb news. originally coined by gb news. um, it is it's what he does the whole keeps, you know, whole time. he keeps, you know, he his finger the he sticks his finger up in the wind and sees way it's wind and sees which way it's blowing, and then whoosh, off he goes. >> so that's. yes, that's my concern. that i'm saying the concern. not that i'm saying the conservatives have held themselves in any high regard. if they if you look at the way they behaved, you know, it's behaved, i just, you know, it's laughable. the five laughable. you know, the five families, could anyone name families, what could anyone name the i'll you the five families? i'll give you a you get. a special treat if you get. >> i can name the five crime

families from america from new york, well, the york, the gambinos. well, the lucchese's . yeah. lucchese's. yeah. >> the pop cons or the >> no, it's the pop cons or the con whatever they're con pops, whatever they're called. it was a new one. >> i don't i don't know what they are. it's absurd. they're all. they're circular all. they're like a circular firing the party and firing squad. the tory party and that's are. they're all that's all they are. they're all shooting other and shooting at each other and people, used go on people, people used to go out on strike they ran out of milk, strike if they ran out of milk, if no in the if there was no milk in the fridge, or they'd run out of sugar their tea break, sugar for their tea break, they'd right, lads, down they'd say, right, lads, down tools out. >> gm- tools out. >> milk management. >> there's no milk management. haven't tools haven't got any sugar down tools in longbridge, in birmingham, longbridge, the rover yeah. rover plant, red robbo. yeah. google it. red robbo wow. like he was left to stalin the best. >> the best. um um , thing about >> the best. um um, thing about strikes was i'm all right, jack. >> absolutely brilliant film starring peter sellers. >> and goodness knows who as fred kite . i think >> and goodness knows who as fred kite. i think his name >> and goodness knows who as fred kite . i think his name was fred kite. i think his name was a union leader. it's brilliant. >> i'm all right, jack. check it out guys. out, guys. >> that's a good i'm >> oh, that's a good one. i'm definitely very and definitely very old. black and white. love that. white. yeah, we love that. listen, just in, listen, if you're just tuned in, welcome. minutes after 4:00, welcome. 17 minutes after 4:00, this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. don't forget, can also

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want to relax security checks. i mean, what are they talking about for potential recruits from overseas in order to boost diversity and inclusion? i mean, this is like the police force thing, isn't it, when they, you know, the vetting of the police officers, gone officers, it really hasn't gone well. the armed forces , well. but now the armed forces, britain's armed forces actually have failed to hit have consistently failed to hit recruitment targets over the past decade. and they're seeking to plug those gaps by increasing ethnic minority representation , ethnic minority representation, which currently stands at about 14% of the regular army, which i think also is about the percentage of ethnic minorities there are in the uk. i think it's a 14. however the revelations have sparked strong criticism, with the former head of m16 , sir richard dearlove, of m16, sir richard dearlove, saying that the fighting capability of our armed forces mustn't be compromised by the overapplication of diversity and inclusion . ian. meanwhile, inclusion. ian. meanwhile, defence secretary grant shapps is said to be furious at the findings and has ordered a root and branch of diversity findings and has ordered a root and inclusion of diversity findings and has ordered a root and inclusion policiesdiversity findings and has ordered a root and inclusion policies inersity findings and has ordered a root and inclusion policies in the :y and inclusion policies in the armed forces in response . so for

armed forces in response. so for the great british debate this i'm asking is diversity and inclusion destroying our armed forces ? well, joining me to forces? well, joining me to discuss senior news gb news political commentator nigel nelson, businessman and activist adam brooks, former british army officer lieutenant colonel stuart crawford and assistant editor of the london financial all andy macdonald . right. well, all andy macdonald. right. well, i'm going to start with, uh, i'm going to start with you, lieutenant colonel crawford . lieutenant colonel crawford. he's a defence analyst and former british army officer. what is your thoughts on this ? what is your thoughts on this? >> well, my first thought is that, um, inclusion and diversity should enhance britain's armed forces rather than , uh, denigrate them in any than, uh, denigrate them in any way . way. >> uh, the problem is that we're not we're not talking about proportion in the way that it should be understood . because if should be understood. because if we were truly to represent the armed forces, were truly to represent , uh, the make armed forces, were truly to represent, uh, the make up of the united kingdom, the population from which it recruits . and 52% of the armed

recruits. and 52% of the armed forces would be women, and they're not. and now you can put that down to a lot of things. >> equality of opportunity. >> equality of opportunity. >> it definitely >> we to apply it definitely applies. but also it's a matter of choice . um, and as for of choice. um, and as for reducing the security, uh uh , reducing the security, uh uh, requirements for people coming from overseas, i think that is a route to madness. uh, because the last thing you want to know, you want is if you're in the front line , uh, to be wondering front line, uh, to be wondering whether the guy or girl standing next to you has actually got your best interests at heart, or asindeed your best interests at heart, or as indeed an agent for another organisation , which would do you organisation, which would do you harm . harm. >> it's just i'm harm. >> it'sjust i'm with harm. >> it's just i'm with you on that. a route to absolute madness . andy mcdonald. what do madness. andy mcdonald. what do you think? >> i don't think it's, you know, diversity and inclusion that has destroyed the, the, the armed forces in this country. >> i think it's the procurement process they dish process of how they dish out private contracts equipment private contracts for equipment and for supplies and other things like that. that's what's destroying and destroying the armed forces and the fact that we've got a clown at the at the top of it, you

know, the defence secretary grant shapps, know, mean, grant shapps, you know, i mean, he's what was home he's been what he was home secretary, transport secretary, then transport secretary, then transport secretary then business secretary, then energy security secretary. and this is only, you know i think six years. >> he's had all these jobs. >> he's had all these jobs. >> so clearly he's not specialised in defence. so why have this guy? you know, have we got this guy? you know, he's a cry ben he's he's a far cry from ben wallace, defence wallace, the former defence secretary. who was secretary. you know who was agreed party that he was agreed cross party that he was a great defence secretary. >> know he's a he's a far cry. >> so $n- % clown at the >> so we've got a clown at the top and a procurement process that work. that doesn't really work. i don't is about don't think this is about diversity and inclusion. this is about conservative about a failed conservative government the government who have failed the procurement process and don't have defence secretary have a great defence secretary with it? with a carousel, isn't it? >> they're all whizzing >> i mean, they're all whizzing around. i'll do one. around. oh, i'll do this one. i'll what did you i'll do that one. what did you do did? i don't even do before you did? i don't even think they know. but that's that's question though. that's not the question though. do though. but do you think though. but diversity though, diversity and inclusion, though, adam brooks. diversity. inclusion should they be loosening their sort of requirements they can requirements so that they can get more people diverse backgrounds? >> certainly not this this woke agenda? it's agenda? uh as you said, it's weakened. police. when? in weakened. the police. when? in the was child, the 80s, when i was a child, i used to at police officers used to look at police officers and foot tall,

and they were six foot tall, big, they quite big, strong. and they were quite intimidating looking. now, you look police officers look at the police officers today, lot of them. sorry. you today, a lot of them. sorry. you know, you'd they at know, you'd laugh if they ran at you. cant know, you'd laugh if they ran at you. can't run you. some of them can't even run themselves. so got to themselves. so so we've got to be careful here that be very careful here that there's of soldiers. there's a shortage of soldiers. you know, we could have less than 70,000 in 2 years. and we've a top american general we've had a top american general say that our army isn't what it used to be. so there's a crisis of numbers here. but there's so many factors. you know, this this coming through. this generation coming through. they want their they don't want to get their hands dirty. lot of them, you hands dirty. a lot of them, you know, they don't want fight know, they don't want to fight for country. of for a country. a lot of them don't this country. so don't even like this country. so we're have , you know, we're going to have, you know, it's a job on hands to try it's a job on our hands to try and get some of these people into say maybe into the army. i would say maybe increase salary to try and increase the salary to try and do it, but i certainly wouldn't want to fight next to someone thatis want to fight next to someone that is just because, you that is picked just because, you know, diversity box ticking know, on a diversity box ticking exercise . um, and hope that he's exercise. um, and hope that he's going to shield me. you know, when a load of bullets over when a load of bullets come over my scary . my head, it's scary. >> yeah. well, it's also it's also kind of deterring white people from coming to the army

because they'll be thinking, well, you know , well, you know, if you know, there was a time when they didn't weren't didn't want to they weren't looking they weren't looking for, uh, they weren't looking for white people to apply looking for white people to apply jobs in the navy. and apply for jobs in the navy. and it's just nonsense. in the it's just a nonsense. or in the air force and as far as you say about people, there, too about young people, there, too busy i my busy on tiktok. i know my daughter is she's uh, this daughter is she's like, uh, this is latest dance. and daughter is she's like, uh, this is like, est dance. and daughter is she's like, uh, this is like, that's dance. and daughter is she's like, uh, this is like, that's just dance. and daughter is she's like, uh, this is like, that's just nonsense.i i'm like, that's just nonsense. nigel nelson, maybe you will support the notion of, well, i certainly support the notion of diversity in and inclusion in any organisation. >> and that includes the army , >> and that includes the army, the army of a choice of british citizens, commonwealth citizens , citizens, commonwealth citizens, irish citizens and gurkhas. so there is actually plenty of diversity there . however, i am diversity there. however, i am against any idea that you might boost it by lowering security checks. that does seem to be complete madness . m15 complete madness. m15 desperately need arabic speakers to monitor terrorist chatter over the internet . now, dual over the internet. now, dual nationals are able to apply to mi5 , but nationals are able to apply to m15 , but you wouldn't expect the

m15, but you wouldn't expect the place that actually looks. after all, britain's secrets to reduce their security checks to get more of them in. >> yeah. um, andy, your thoughts, sir? because you know , thoughts, sir? because you know, we need more people to join the armed forces . and this is armed forces. and this is probably an attempt to sort of encourage people from all over, all over the world, they're talking about going other talking about going to other countries recruit people. countries to recruit people. and we jobs . so we do that with other jobs. so why the army? why not the army? >> i think in the army, you know, if a of the know, if you're a member of the commonwealth, apply. commonwealth, you can apply. i mean, great mean, we've got some great international regiments, like like you said, the gurkhas. >> i from what >> um, but i think from what i understand, this, level of understand, this, this level of vetting, still going vetting, it's you're still going to vetted to join to be vetted to join the intelligence army. intelligence corps in the army. >> a slightly less >> it's just a slightly less developed level to make it slightly for foreign slightly easier for foreign applicants what applicants to apply from what i understand. >> there is a >> but, you know, there is a there's manpower crisis in the there's a manpower crisis in the army, figure army, and they've got to figure out fix it some way. so out how to fix it some way. so it i mean, i don't any it i mean, i don't have any better ideas than but better ideas than them, but that's but to me to, to fix the crisis lower the crisis doesn't mean to lower the criteria make it worse. criteria to make it worse. >> so you actually you're bringing aren't

bringing in people who aren't that or aren't that experienced or aren't really kind people really the right kind of people to fight in army. you're to fight in the army. you're just lowering it because we're going to excuse that. and i mean, as pointed out and mean, as adam pointed out and i did, the police is an did, you know, the police is an exact why that exact example of why that doesn't work. >> well, no , i disagree. i mean, >> well, no, i disagree. i mean, you adam spoke about the you know, adam spoke about the police the 80s. you know, the police in the 80s. you know, the police in the 80s. you know, the police were still, you know, beating the life out of miners in 80s. in the 80s. >> weren't perfect >> they weren't perfect then. they're now. they're not perfect now. >> the army had >> you know, the army had problems just like problems in the 80s, just like the did. it's hard to crime. >> crime's got a lot worse, unfortunately. and going unfortunately. and just going back about security back to nana about the security risk here, remember, i only risk here, just remember, i only last week i spoke about on this show , an asylum seeker was show, an asylum seeker was caught out as being a spy. so how do we trust the powers that be now in this country to actually vet these people and realise you were saying, nigel, about getting arabic speakers to help out the army? how do we know they're intentions? you know, so many know, so there's so many security risks here. and again, i think the only way you're going to get more recruits into the army is if you pay them a hell a lot more than they're

hell of a lot more than they're paid now. and people start thinking their wallets thinking with their wallets rather than their heads. but i think now is think this generation now is lost. they're too soft. think this generation now is lostfinaly're too soft. think this generation now is lostfinal word 30 soft. think this generation now is lostfinal word to soft. think this generation now is lostfinal word to you, stuart . >> final word to you, stuart. >> final word to you, stuart. >> yeah, well, i'm afraid, uh, the problem is not the root of the problem is not just recruiting , but it's also just recruiting, but it's also retention. uh, i think your retention. and uh, i think your other contribute . you are quite other contribute. you are quite right to sort this out. we need to pay people better, give them better conditions of service. and i include in that service accommodation where it's required , which has got an awful required, which has got an awful press at the moment and rightly so. and then think outside the box at the moment lots of recruiting is outsourced to save money. uh, to , to a large money. uh, to, to a large multinational company, which i won't mention by name, but i think everybody knows who it is. and they're doing a rotten job. so the announcement this afternoon by grant shapps that he's going to do a root and branch, uh, investigation into all of this is can only be welcomed . welcomed. >> yeah. all right. so finally so to each of you and very quickly, nigel nelson is

diversity. inclusion destroying our armed forces. diversity. inclusion destroying our armed forces . yes or no. our armed forces. yes or no? no. adam brooks. yes or no? >> yes it is. andy >> yes it is. andy >> yes it is. andy >> yes or no? no. and stewart, yes or no? yes it is, i'm afraid. yeah. all right. well listen, thank you so much for your thoughts . gb news sinner, your thoughts. gb news sinner, political nigel political commentator nigel nelson. brooks, businessman nelson. adam brooks, businessman and andy macdonald, and activist andy macdonald, political also political commentator. and also lieutenant colonel stuart crawford , defence analyst and crawford, defence analyst and former british army officer. thank you for your thoughts. right. well, this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up , tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, it's tv, online and on digital radio. coming up , it's the tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, it's the great british debate i'm british debate this hour. i'm asking diversity asking is diversity and inclusion destroying our armed forces? hear the thoughts forces? you'll hear the thoughts of panel, broadcaster and of my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and author and broadcaster christine hamilton. to come, hamilton. still to come, my outside is a mystery. he's outside guest is a mystery. he's a barrister, a former champion boxer. also written boxer. he's also just written a new book that some are calling the british jack reacher . do you the british jack reacher. do you know who he is? vaiews@gbnews.uk but first, let's get your latest news headunes.

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this hour, i'm asking, is diversity and inclusion destroying our armed forces ? destroying our armed forces? well, let's see what my panel make of that. joined make of that. i'm joined by broadcaster journalist danny broadcaster and journalist danny kelly author and broadcaster kelly and author and broadcaster christine hamilton . okay, danny christine hamilton. okay, danny kelly, um, i don't think it's destroying anything. >> i think potentially it could destroy something. or it could certainly impact things negatively. don't think there negatively. i don't think there should be any sort of quota system when it comes a life system when it comes to a life or role. protecting this or death role. protecting this state. i think that the best men and i'm going to use word and i'm going to use the word men. yes, overwhelmingly it's men. yes, overwhelmingly it's men. if you just up men. so just if you just put up with lazily using that word, with me lazily using that word, man woman rather than man embraces woman rather than rather to constantly rather than having to constantly caveat , it's caveat with and woman, it's just, it's just men. >> you could say , as in man as >> you could say, as in man as in human. >> fine. okay. the human people. >> fine. okay. the human people. >> people. oh, well , i could do. >> people. oh, well, i could do. >> people. oh, well, i could do. >> but, you know, overwhelmingly frontline soldiers are blokes . frontline soldiers are blokes. >> am i turning woke? >> am i turning woke? >> are , young lady. >> you are, young lady. >> you are, young lady. >> do you know, because saw >> do you know, because i saw this the this amazing video of the israeli forces and they israeli armed forces and they were women, and one of them was in these fabulous.

were women, and one of them was in these fabulous . this is what in these fabulous. this is what i would have those stiletto. well, they're not stiletto, but they were boots. and she they were high boots. and she had she this, had back then she had this, like, gun on the back diagonal. then the bullets. then she had like the bullets. chick chick chick chick chick chick chick. >> yeah. i don't like that. have you? look, don't the you? look, i don't like the glamorisation the israeli army. >> sign up for >> no, i'm going to sign up for the army. >> no, i'm going to sign up for the no, |y. >> no, i'm going to sign up for the no, |y don't the >> no, i don't like the glamorisation war. no no, no, glamorisation of war. no no, no, but just saying that but i'm just saying that there are women in armed forces. are women in the armed forces. of there are. but. okay of course there are. but. okay all let me rewind. all right, let me rewind. 30s. >> as well look good >> you might as well look good if to you if you're going to war. you don't to rubbish. let me rewind. >> let me rewind. 30s. it should be the best man for the job. okay? there shouldn't any okay? there shouldn't be any quota for the person for quota for the best person for the there shouldn't the job, okay? there shouldn't be fill. not be any quotas to fill. it's not like it's the bbc where 50% of all radio breakfast all local radio breakfast show hosts women. oh, here all local radio breakfast show hosgo. women. oh, here all local radio breakfast show hosgo. they women. oh, here all local radio breakfast show hosgo. they havenomen. oh, here all local radio breakfast show hosgo. they have to.1en. oh, here all local radio breakfast show hosgo. they have to. after)h, here we go. they have to. after spending . spending. >> it's all him, isn't it? >> it's all about him, isn't it? but going save or but that's not going to save or cost a life, is it? >> that's my point . it's not >> that's my point. it's not going to save and it's not going to is it? it's the to cost a life, is it? it's the best man for the job. and that's what worries the army. what worries me about the army. and die or die?

and these is it. die or die? well, we don't want it to be die. die . be die. currently it's die. be careful. it doesn't turn into die . die. >> in some places they actually call it die . christine hamilton. call it die. christine hamilton. >> it's absolute ludicrous. >> um, it's absolute ludicrous. >> um, it's absolute ludicrous. >> the army and by army, i mean the forces . the forces. >> yes. the army, the defence is they they are about the most fundamental, important place as well as the police , where you well as the police, where you need the right people for the job. allowed somebody job. and we've allowed somebody on the panel earlier was saying that you the policemen are that you know, the policemen are now four foot high and now sort of four foot high and army all for hire. >> that's more than that . well, okay. >> i'm not getting the army now allows their recruits to be far from fit. they're not fighting fit. they're overweight the army. yes. the figures for some of the army people are what we need to do. >> if there's a shortage of people, we need to have a look at the millions. >> i think it's 6 million people now who are on universal credit. now. believe all now. i do not believe that all those 6 million can't get a job. some of those very easily those 6 million can't get a job. s0|taken those very easily those 6 million can't get a job. s0|taken thos

up, tidied up, stiffened up, and then they would become a part of then they would become a part of the darlings. >> yeah. you know what i mean. spruce up generally. >> get them fighting. spruce up generally. >> let them fighting. spruce up generally. >> i just1em fighting. spruce up generally. >> ijust1ejustghting. spruce up generally. >> i just1ejust caught my >> i just i just caught my image. am, there's no image. there i am, there's no way a squaddie is as fat as me. i've never seen an overweight squad. >> i didn't say they were. >> i didn't say they were. >> you said no, but you said overweight. overweight? i don't think you're overweight in the army. >> yes, chef. though you could do a chef's role. >> i used to be a chef. >> they are not. >> they are not. >> are you used to a chef? >> are you used to be a chef? >> are you used to be a chef? >> yes. should any food ever get out, i. >> you'll never y you'll never see out, i. >> you'll never see someone >> but you'll never see someone on overweight on the front line as overweight as i am or indeed overweight. the drill sergeant wouldn't allow it. >> i don't. i never said anybody as overweight as you or overweight. >> yes , the army, the fitness >> yes, the army, the fitness requirements for the army have gone down because they're desperate to get people in. >> now they're saying they >> and now they're saying they get people off the dole and into the army. >> they may be fat when they go in, but they won't be fat on the front line. the drill sergeant will get all that fat off him, not to be. not as it used to be. >> well know. yeah, i don't

>> well, you know. yeah, i don't know. i think. not saying know. i think. i'm not saying they're but they're obese, obviously, but they're obese, obviously, but they're and, you they're not as fit and, you know, i don't know, rarely, i don't know, there's of uses you, there's lots of uses for you, danny. remember talked about danny. remember we talked about danny. remember we talked about danny danny danny boys. danny >> oh, the in the water to >> oh, in the in the water to prevent dinghies coming over from 2030. yeah. i'll be from france 2030. yeah. i'll be 20 or 30m into the water, stabbed the dinghy. >> you're fat shaming . >> you're fat shaming. >> you're fat shaming. >> oh, i see, i thought i was stabbing them. >> get on the dinghy. you're shaming you. i'm not fat. >> no, it's not fat shaming. >> no, it's not fat shaming. >> fun. we're having fun. you're turning woke anyway, christine, i think you two are woke. >> now that you're very woke. danny. thank from these danny. thank you from these barbs and. yeah. thank you. christine. yeah. thank you . christine. yeah. thank you. >> danny didn't say that. i just thought, you know, you're just another talking another £6. started talking about there'll be nobody as fat or overweight. >> well, i i caught myself >> well, i was, i caught myself in the monitor. and then in the in the monitor. and then christine going christine said the army is going to court yourself and the army . to court yourself and the army. >> the army is letting him . >> the army is letting him. >> the army is letting him. >> i'm sorry. all right. i shouldn't have mentioned weight. danny, i apologise. danny, i do apologise. >> a sensitive subject. >> it's a sensitive subject. >> it's a sensitive subject. >> it's a sensitive subject. >> i think he started it.

>> i think he started it. >> but anyway, it's utterly absurd to have these. did whatever diy. um quotas. whatever it is, diy. um quotas. >> and we've got a gurkhas regiment , >> and we've got a gurkhas regiment, right? some of the bravest soldiers from nepal. bravest soldiers are from nepal. the regiment. how the gurkhas regiment. how diverse do you want it to be? you've got a whole regiment. yeah, well, i just don't see the relevance of the, you know, like. >> oh , we need to go abroad and >> oh, we need to go abroad and get. i think they need to start looking at people here and looking at the people here and thinking, aren't people thinking, why aren't people in this wanting the this country wanting to join the army? they need to army? and i think they need to start at they're start looking at what they're offering . so not offering people. so it's not enough finished enough money. when you finished the look after the army, they don't look after you. anyone want to you. why would anyone want to do that? not only that? yeah. and then not only that, you're in army, that, when you're in the army, a lot kit, you know, they lot of the kit, you know, they haven't really got a lot of the time there was they weren't spending money the spending the right money on the kit. you know, they kit. so i think, you know, they need start thinking about need to start thinking about what offering. what they're offering. it is a job make sure job and they need to make sure they treat people properly. and job and they need to make sure tisuspect: people properly. and job and they need to make sure tisuspect they'llz properly. and job and they need to make sure tisuspect they'll getyperly. and job and they need to make sure tisuspect they'll get lotsy. and job and they need to make sure tisuspect they'll get lots morei i suspect they'll get lots more people. well, they're the people. well, they're double the wage. too many youngsters >> there are too many youngsters now going to secondary universities totally now going to secondary universi degrees. totally now going to secondary universi degrees. tdoes' now going to secondary universi degrees. tdoes nothing useless degrees. it does nothing for them the future. if they for them in the future. if they could actually, instead of just going to university and having

three they three years having fun, they went army they went into the army. they probably significantly probably come out significantly better. and thinner better. people and thinner and thinner . better. people and thinner and thinner. well, maybe not. >> importantly , thinner. >> more importantly, thinner. >> more importantly, thinner. >> well, but it's a nonsense anyway. >> thank goodness grant shapps is saying furious? yes. good we've got shapps not ships. >> what would happen if >> i wonder what would happen if it labour party charge >> i wonder what would happen if it this labour party charge >> i wonder what would happen if it this though.�* party charge >> i wonder what would happen if it this though. do rty charge >> i wonder what would happen if it this though. do you charge >> i wonder what would happen if it this though. do you know ge >> i wonder what would happen if it this though. do you know what of this though. do you know what i be a bit concerned, i mean? i'd be a bit concerned, ed about but let's see who ed about that, but let's see who is shadow i know, is shadow defence. i don't know, but anyone. but it could be anyone. >> probably. >> diane abbott probably. >> diane abbott probably. >> she's not in the labour party anymore. >> oh, no, she i don't think she. well, let's see what you've been saying because a lot of you've getting in touch. you've been getting in touch. >> claire says how could >> uh, claire says how could the mod be so stupid and incompetent? recruitment must be carried out in—house and to the same security standards that they previously used . and gary they previously used. and gary says inclusion is says diversity and inclusion is destroying it touches destroying everything it touches . armed forces are just one . the armed forces are just one aspect of it, a totally unknown addition to society . debbie says addition to society. debbie says the armed forces should recruit whoever passes the process. it should have nothing to do with race. i agree with you completely and they should also be trying to recruit people in

this country because they don't appear to want to do that . appear to want to do that. they're abroad for that. they're looking abroad for that. well, you're with i'm nana. well, you're with me. i'm nana. this news up. we'll this is gb news coming up. we'll continue with our great british debates discuss lots of debates and discuss lots of things. we're talking about the police their borders and police and their borders and whether whether whether we should, whether you would police them. would volunteer to police them. but next, worldview. paul but next, it's worldview. paul duddndge but next, it's worldview. paul duddridge hosted politics duddridge hosted the politics people podcast , gives the people podcast, gives us the latest going latest on what's going on stateside .

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anti—trump new york times headune. anti—trump new york times headline . the question is not if headline. the question is not if biden should step down, it's how far is that an anti—trump? >> yeah. now no, the new york times is anti—trump. so for the new york times, who that is the bible of the that's the, uh, broadsheet bible of the wokerati for them to come out and put out a headline saying, it's not if biden should step aside, it's how that's the, uh, that's the huge shift. >> and . i've not been the only >> and. i've not been the only one that spotted this. and it's not only the new york times every , every, uh , left leaning every, every, uh, left leaning anti—trump newspaper has started . basically it's over. you're not you've now seen the end of the, uh, biden so—called presidency . and so all even presidency. and so all even hillary clinton today, hillary clinton , who is the queen of the clinton, who is the queen of the democrat party, has said age is a consideration when we're deaung a consideration when we're dealing with, uh, joe biden.

>> so that's it. >> so that's it. >> i mean, basically, they are now they have all turned on him. >> and so it's now a matter of replacing him. >> the question is, who is going to replace him? and when we've got the democrat convention in august , i've been got the democrat convention in august, i've been optimistic for biden, saying, august, i've been optimistic for biden, saying , look, he'll august, i've been optimistic for biden, saying, look, he'll make it to august, but i'll tell you the way they've turned on him this could be this week, this could be a matter weeks that he's matter of weeks that he's actually replaced as nominee i >> -- >> well, i m >> well, i just don't even understand why they thought that they were fooling us into believing that he is actually capable of making any decisions at all. it's just absurd . and at all. it's just absurd. and now they finally accepted that what we're seeing and they're reinforcing and telling us now what you're seeing is absolute correct. but it's taken them so long, i just don't understand why it's taken them so long. um, so how's it looking for trump now, then? of course, now, then? because of course, there's court and there's the supreme court and there's the supreme court and there's an argument that's looking positive for him. and he may be on the ballot in may be kept on the ballot in colorado . so. well, they have colorado. so. well, they have to. who have got?

to. who else have they got? there's nobody else other than trump. always talked >> look, we've always talked about this. things that we've said on this show, biden's said on this show, okay? biden's going before the election going to go before the election and stay on the and that trump will stay on the ballot in colorado. and he will be the nominee. uh, but it's finally supreme court . finally hit the supreme court. we're always there with any any sane person. it's like, okay, this appealed to the this will get appealed to the supreme court. that started on thursday. we'll get the result in the arguments look in 90 days. the arguments look really positive. they're at least sticking to the constitution, is their job constitution, which is their job in supreme court. i i, i in the supreme court. i i, i hate to be a, uh, a little bit negative on this. i don't want biden to be replaced. i would love trump to actually go up against biden in the debates. if that debate alone would be the most watched show in television history. any body vaguely competent with the machinery of the us democratic establishment behind them can be a true contender to trump. i mean , the contender to trump. i mean, the vacuum, the leadership vacuum in that white house and in the, uh, in the coming presidential

campaign is really what we've benefited from. it's part of the reason that trump is so buoyant and is leading so well. but you replace you replace biden with a gavin newsom who looks like the likely candidate. everybody apparently left wants apparently on the left wants michelle obama. i take that with a pinch of salt. i don't think that she's likely to be the candidate, but there's a lot of wish fulfilment going on. but gavin newsom vegas gavin newsom is in vegas this weekend , uh, courting weekend, uh, courting billionaires. so it looks like. and he's gone and met the president of china, etc. and this is just a governor of california. so i he is the california. so i think he is the likely replacement of biden. i think he's a much more formidable debater than, uh, joe biden. and i think trump would have real competition. and beanng have real competition. and bearing in mind it's so finely balanced in those six battleground states that we're going to see, wow, i don't know why it took them so long. >> that's very foolish of them. there's a lot i want to talk to you about, but i wanted to quickly to tucker quickly get you to tucker carlson interview carlson and his interview with putin. in putin. how was that received in america putin. how was that received in

am well, the minute that the >> well, the minute that the news channel said, don't watch it, everybody went, oh, we definitely should be watching that. then it a bit that. then it was a little bit like was little bit like like it was a little bit like dunng like it was a little bit like during covid when the news channel said, like, we the channel said, like, we are the only you only people to give you information. it's actually illegal to look at other information . so no, i think it information. so no, i think it was received well on both sides of the aisle. i don't think actual you'd have to be a real policy wonk to have any kind of criticism to be fair, criticism of it. and to be fair, tucker did actually put tucker carlson did actually put questions , legitimate questions questions, legitimate questions to putin that nobody else had bothered to ask , you know, or bothered to ask, you know, or people assumed wouldn't . be people assumed he wouldn't. be brave enough to ask. and so, you know, we actually got a why why did you go into ukraine? i actually answered from the horse's mouth. so i think largely received very, largely it's been received very, very and it's the kind of very well. and it's the kind of it's kind of interview that it's the kind of interview that we to years ago. if we used to see 30 years ago. if you about it, used to you think about it, we used to have proper down interviews , have proper sit down interviews, as i think trevor mcdonald went and saddam hussein, and and met with saddam hussein, and it was not a million miles away from the formality of this kind of interview. apparently from the formality of this kind of ircan'iew. apparently from the formality of this kind of ircan only apparently from the formality of this kind of ircan only talk apparently from the formality of this kind

of ircan only talk t0)parently from the formality of this kind of ircan only talk to leadersy from the formality of this kind of ircan only talk to leaders who you can only talk to leaders who you can only talk to leaders who you it's crazy. so you agree with. it's crazy. so it well received. it was very well received. i would say . would say. >> yeah, it's brilliant, isn't it? listen , paul, always it? well, listen, paul, always a pleasure. much. pleasure. thank you very much. that's duddridge, of that's paul duddridge, host of the politics podcast . the politics people podcast. good to you. we'll talk good to talk to you. we'll talk to again next week and get to him again next week and get an update him. with an update from him. you're with me. akua . this is gb me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news tv, online and on news on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, my great british debate this hour. i'm asking volunteer i'm asking would you volunteer to police our borders? i've got to police our borders? i've got to pull on zdnet right now to pull up on zdnet right now asking question. would asking you that question. would you police you volunteer to police our borders first, get borders? but first, let's get some . weather a brighter outlook some. weather a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. this morning's cloud , mist and fog is slowly clearing its way off to provide more in the way sunnier more in the way of sunnier spells for of the spells for the rest of the afternoon even into the next afternoon and even into the next few quite few days. still got some quite persistent across the

persistent rain across the northern isles. very wet end northern isles. the very wet end to sunday shetland, also to sunday for shetland, and also some quite frequent showers for parts ireland, parts of northern ireland, western wintry western scotland turning wintry over areas over higher ground areas throughout the but throughout the night. but elsewhere are some clear elsewhere there are some clear spells showers . spells in between those showers. underneath those clear skies, though, take a though, temperatures will take a little of tumble into little bit of a tumble down into low single figures. for many of us, frost in us, a patchy frost in rural spots, stretches spots, maybe some icy stretches around in the around first thing in the morning, monday is morning, but generally monday is a sunshine and showers. a day of sunshine and showers. those most those showers will be most frequent over towards the north and quite and west, with some quite blustery winds around at times. those the those towards the east and the south, likely south, though more likely to stay and actually fairly stay drier and actually a fairly pleasant fine day with a decent number sunny intervals in number of sunny intervals in there. temperatures generally ranging and 10 c, ranging between 6 and 10 c, which is around where we'd expect them to be for this point in year. on tuesday, we in the year. on tuesday, we still have this area low still have this area of low pressure in the far north, bringing breezy, bringing again a breezy, blustery some blustery picture with some showers. ridge of high showers. but this ridge of high pressure elsewhere will allow for drier for a slightly finer, drier start with some sunny spells once but really , all eyes once again, but really, all eyes will be turning to this area in the southwest as we see cloud

thicken and outbreaks of rain eventually arrive throughout the day, increasingly day, and that will increasingly spread further other areas of spread further to other areas of the uk as we head throughout the middle but middle point of the week, but also milder trapped also some milder air trapped into temperatures into that. so temperatures are generally on generally going to be on an upwards by looks like upwards climb by by looks like things are heating up . things are heating up. >> boxt boilers spot hours of weather on gb news as

i >> -- >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> it is 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right coming up, it's time right now. coming up, it's time for the great british debate this and i'm asking, would this hour. and i'm asking, would you police our you volunteer to police our borders ? but next, my outside borders? but next, my outside guest this week is a barrister, a former champion boxer, and he's also written a new book that some are calling the

british jack reacher. and some say saved anthony joshua's say he saved anthony joshua's career . do say he saved anthony joshua's career. do you say he saved anthony joshua's career . do you know who he say he saved anthony joshua's career. do you know who he is yet? gb views at cbnnews.com. but first, let's get your latest news headlines . but first, let's get your latest news headlines. nana i thank you very much. >> good afternoon. from the gb newsroom, leading the news at 5:00, the government has tonight warned israel against its planned full scale offensive in the southern gaza city of rafah , the southern gaza city of rafah, with ministers saying it could be catastrophic for civilians. those warnings come ahead of an expected call tonight between us president joe biden and benjamin netanyahu to discuss his plans in rafah. joe biden has previously described them as over the top. however the israeli prime minister has told reporters enough of the 132 remaining hostages are still alive to warrant a ground offensive. earlier, tanks , offensive. earlier, tanks, troops and bulldozers were seen operating along the gaza—israel border. benjamin netanyahu says he does, though, have a plan to

evacuate civilians from the crowded area beforehand. it follows at least 44 people yesterday, including several children who died in what the palestinians have claimed were israeli air strikes . well, the israeli air strikes. well, the family of murdered teenager brianna ghey have today been holding a vigil to mark the first anniversary of her death . first anniversary of her death. earlier, i spoke to our north—west of england reporter, sophie reaper, who's been at that gathering. well one year on from the tragic death of brianna ghey. >> hundreds of people have gathered here in warrington for a vigil in her memory. we heard from several of brianna's friends who spoke, bringing tears to the eyes of the crowd as they remembered their friend. we also heard from the head teacher at brianna ghey school . teacher at brianna ghey school. we finally heard from brianna's mother, esther, who spoke emotion and emotively about the loss of her daughter. here's what she had to say . what she had to say. >> brianna was an amazing,

unique and joyful teenager. i will be forever thankful that i was lucky enough to spend 16 years with her. >> she taught me so much and gave me so much happiness and love. >> if there's one piece of advice that i can give to any parent, it would be to hug your children tight and never stop telling them that you love them . telling them that you love them. >> esther ghey they're the mother of brianna ghey. speaking earlier , well, two people have earlier, well, two people have today been arrested after an eight year old mother was eight year old child. rather was seriously injured in a suspected xl bully attack. the dog had bitten the child's head in merseyside yesterday afternoon. the boy has had emergency surgery and, we understand, remains in a serious but stable condition. doctors say his injuries are though life changing . officers seized the changing. officers seized the dog, which they believe to be an xl bully and a 49 year old woman and a 30 year old man have been

arrested, though they are not related to that child . 124 related to that child. 124 migrants crossed the english channel on saturday on three small boats. that's according to new figures from the home office . the latest arrivals bring the total for the year so far to just over 1500. that's down from the 2072 at this time last year , the 2072 at this time last year, but up from the figure in 2022. apart from the latest crossings, small boats had not been intercepted in the channel since january. the 31st. you'll remember the prime minister has made stopping the boats a key pledge of his leadership as the country approaches the next general election , the housing general election, the housing secretary is warning young people shut out of the uk's housing market could turn to authoritarianism . michael gove authoritarianism. michael gove has said today that a failure by the government to tackle the housing crisis could harm democracy, as well as the conservatives chances of the general election. in an interview with the times, he said the traditional route for young people to work hard and

get on the housing ladder has now gone. gove criticised labour for, he says the continuous rejection of housing policies , rejection of housing policies, the difference between a party saying that its policy is pro builder, not blocker. >> and then when we bring things forward, every single conservative mp, every single conservative backed our proposals for new homes and labour were whipped to a man and woman against it. so this is not about individuals, this is about about individuals, this is about a party that makes big claims. and yet, as we see time after time, it turns turtle. and that's why keir starmer is the jellyfish of british politics. he's transparent , spineless, he's transparent, spineless, swept along by the tide. this afternoon, the departure of the royal navy aircraft carrier hms prince of wales was cancelled at the last minute. >> it was about to set sail to replace its sister ship , which replace its sister ship, which was also forced to cancel its deployment due to an issue with its propeller . the £3

deployment due to an issue with its propeller. the £3 billion vessel was to take over, leading the largest nato exercise since the largest nato exercise since the cold war. however despite people lining the walls of portsmouth harbour to watch the 65,000 ton warship set sail , it 65,000 ton warship set sail, it failed to leave the jetty and the king has attended church in sandringham for the first time this morning since his cancer diagnosis. his majesty was seen walking alongside queen camilla and saying hello to well—wishers in the distance night. king in the distance last night. king charles thanked the nation for their overwhelming support in his first public message since his first public message since his diagnosis. the monarch said such kind are great such kind thoughts are of great comfort and encouragement to him . buckingham palace has said that he is facing a form of cancer , though it's unrelated to cancer, though it's unrelated to his recent prostate treatment . his recent prostate treatment. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts .

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this hour. i'm asking, would you volunteer to police our borders? former immigration minister robert jenrick believes the french should deploy texas style blockades . but should we hear in blockades. but should we hear in britain, raise a citizen army to help stop the boats ? would you help stop the boats? would you sign up and, as ever, get in touch vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. but before we me at. gb news. but before we find out who my mystery guest is , you're not going to want to miss this. the prime minister, rishi sunak, is going to be appearing exclusively on gpus, on people's forum, which is on our people's forum, which is an long question answer an hour long question and answer session issues that matter to session on issues that matter to you. let's have a listen what session on issues that matter to yothast's have a listen what session on issues that matter to yothas to have a listen what session on issues that matter to yothas to saye a listen what session on issues that matter to yothas to say. a listen what he has to say. >> hi rishi here as prime minister, i'm focussed on delivering on your priorities , delivering on your priorities, so i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum on monday the 12th of february, where i'll be taking questions from a live audience

about the issues that really matter to you the economy, immigration, the nhs. see you there . there. >> that's tomorrow at 8 pm. the prime minister will take part in a special people's forum live on gb news it will be in the north—east of england, of course. you can find out more on the website and over the course of the hour will take of the hour he will take questions directly from you and you know you are the great british public, so it'll be very interesting has interesting to see what he has to say. but if you've just tuned in, approaching nine in, it's fast approaching nine minutes after 5:00 and each sunday or just after, sunday at five or just after, i am by a celebrity, a am joined by a celebrity, a former mp, or someone had former mp, or someone who's had an career an extremely interesting career to take a look at. life after the job. we talk highs, lows and lessons learned and what comes next on the outside. now my guest this afternoon is a criminal barrister. he's a writer. a former champion writer. he's a former champion boxer. in 20 plus as boxer. and in 20 plus years as criminal at the criminal bar, he's prosecuted and defended

some of the country's highest profile criminals. he draws on his own legal experience to bnng his own legal experience to bring a striking authenticity and accuracy to his best selling thrillers. who do you think he is? well, of course, his criminal barrister and writer tony kent . tony, welcome. tony kent. tony, welcome. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me there. >> thanks for having me there. >> what's it like, a criminal barrister? i used to love crown court and i would have gone into the legal profession. i did actually to be a barrister actually want to be a barrister or but or something like that, but i decided was too much decided there was too much reading. there's lot of reading. there's a lot of reading. there's a lot of reading. there's a lot of reading, awful reading. >> n reading. >> i became a writer. >> that's why i became a writer. >> that's why i became a writer. >> gobble up >> so what? gobble up the reading. what it like for reading. so what was it like for you? how did you become a criminal barrister? what's your background? >> background >> um, my background is, i thought was becoming thought when i was becoming a barrister, it was unusual for a barrister. i subsequently found out it wasn't really. >> i from a from a >> but i come from a from a family of builders. >> one of five kids. >> i'm one of five kids. >> i'm one of five kids. >> the middle one of five. >> i'm the middle one of five. >> i'm the middle one of five. >> and, um, we grew up on a council estate not too far from here, the in here, just up the a40 in northolt. >> the whole idea , the whole >> and the whole idea, the whole sort of, um, ambition . but the sort of, um, ambition. but the plan for us or the expectation

for us was that we would go and become builders and that's what quite a few of my relatives have done. >> um, so i spent my life not really, not really thinking i could be a barrister. i thought, barristers don't come from that world. >> so i loved things like crown court. for me was kavanagh qc i >>i -- >> i used to watch kavanagh qc with my mum and as, as my career went on, when the certain things that would would that would come up that would remind show. remind us of the show. >> go to middle temple >> so we'd go to middle temple or i my bag , my blue or when i got my bag, my blue and my that you put and then my red bag that you put on your, um, when you, when you qualify, you can buy a blue bag and your robes and and you can put your robes and your in and it's . your wig in there, and it's. >> and it's like an old santos. >> and it's like an old santos. >> i love wigs. >> oh, i love wigs. >> oh, i love wigs. >> then, then when >> but then, um, but then when you to a certain point, you you get to a certain point, you then you do well enough, then get, if you do well enough, you're have one you're allowed to have one purchased you by a qc. so purchased for you by a qc. so you'll a they now. you'll get a kc as they are now. >> going to say, and, and >> i was going to say, and, and after about ten years, i had a very big case with a, with a kc who then became a judge and he bought me my red bag. >> so a red bag is almost a status symbol. it means i'm not

disqualified. i know what i'm doing recognised disqualified. i know what i'm doisomeone recognised disqualified. i know what i'm doisomeone rof)gnised disqualified. i know what i'm doisomeone rof the sed by someone at the top of the game all those things saw game and all those things we saw on qc growing and so on kavanagh qc growing up and so when, when we were, when these would happen to me in real life, they were sort of big moments. but yeah. no, i was never but yeah. so no, i was never going a barrister. going to become a barrister. it was never what could was it was never what could happen kid from a family of happen to a kid from a family of builders. and then happened. builders. and then it happened. things just of kept going. things just kind of kept going. the right way and ultimately that's what i became. and i was very lucky because as i was taken on at the number one criminal chambers in the country, and i was kind of taken on there by pure fluke because, again, without ranting on about the sort council estate the sort of council estate business, i thought, i don't come from this background. i didn't go to oxbridge. i went to dundee university and, and i, i was looking for places to apply. but i thought they're never going to want someone like me in the top places. so i looked up all places and there all the top places and there were three hair court was was man united and there was man united and then there was there were there were there were others. there were

two headquarters, were two headquarters, there were three raman, there were 18. they're on their they're all based on their addresses. apply they're all based on their ad any ses. apply they're all based on their ad any of.. apply they're all based on their ad any of them apply they're all based on their ad any of them because apply they're all based on their ad any of them because i apply they're all based on their ad any of them because i thought to any of them because i thought none of them are going be none of them are going to be interested in this kid from northolt , from the racecourse northolt, from the racecourse estate and, and i applied to a place called two bedford road. never heard of him. we'll go there that i'm sure that they'll they might be interested. i appued they might be interested. i applied to two bedford road. go along. have an interview. goes really well. i was relaxed . really well. i was very relaxed. it was lovely. go back for the next goes very well, next interview. goes very well, very . all go very relaxed. all lovely. go back the interview , back for the final interview, which includes a few advocacy exercises. they are invited me to go there and train and then at this point i thought maybe i should look them up and find out who they are . and it turns out who they are. and it turns out they were three hare court. they were man united, they'd were man united, but they'd moved changed the moved, so they'd changed the name because it's all on name because it's all based on addresses. longer addresses. they were no longer three they were two three hare court, they were two bedford and i thought was bedford row, and i thought i was applying accrington stanley applying to accrington stanley and was applying and in fact i was applying to man united i taken on man united and i got taken on there as a barrister, as a pupil , so as to be a pupil barrister,

to be trained. okay. and then i got through that and then they offered to take me on as a tenant, which is a member of chambers, i there for chambers, and i stayed there for i think, the best part of 12 years. wow. >> you have to obviously you years. wow. >> have have to obviously you years. wow. >> have hade to obviously you years. wow. >> have had to» obviously you years. wow. >> have had to» obexams you years. wow. >> have had to» obexams and would have had to do exams and things. did you have to get things. and did you have to get a degree? >> um, they're going to change a degree? >> lnow. 1ey're going to change a degree? >> lnow. there'soing to change that now. there's actually there's talk about changing that. back you had that. but yes, back then you had to get a degree. i got a law degree again because we weren't university people. i thought to be a lawyer, you had to do a law degree. i now discover no, you don't. and there are many more interesting you could do. interesting things you could do. and then could a and then you could do a conversion but conversion at the end. but i didn't that. so did law didn't know that. so i did a law degree. i then did my, um, my bar school , degree. i then did my, um, my bar school, which is the most pointless year my um pointless year of my life. um and then did pupillage, which is your apprenticeship stage, and that's where you really learn. you learn in your pupillage , the you learn in your pupillage, the bar school, you basically learn a load of things that then a load of things that they then make unlearn when you start pupillage. >> and so what about the boxing? where does the boxing come in? >> boxing is just something that

i always did. i was i the family of family of of builders is also a family of boxers. of boxers boxers. there's lots of boxers in at the moment. we in the family at the moment. we could walk around moment. could walk around the moment. you and toddle some you could walk and toddle some gloves punching other gloves and punching each other in face. precisely. in the face. precisely. i had two brother two other brothers, one brother was older, one was five years older, one brother four years older, brother was four years older, and didn't hold back. so and they didn't hold back. so if i was going to avoid being tortured, had learn to tortured, i had to learn to fight and yeah, of the three fight and yeah, and of the three of all did some of us, we all we all did some boxing. i was the one that took it seriously. i tend to take hobbies quite seriously . once hobbies quite seriously. once i started, i think i was about 11 when i first started boxing, and i first fight was, i think i was 12 or 13, and my last fight, i think i was 22. and throughout those throughout those years, i competed in various things. i, i trained , i won some amateur trained, i won some amateur championships, national and international things, and i trained some university boxers. i was the head of my of scottish university boxing for a while. i trained the scottish university team. so it was a bit of an obsession. i loved boxing, but it was never it was never going

to be my future. >> well, as long as i didn't give you a hit to the head, which knocked some sense of which knocked some sense out of you obviously you because you're obviously very clever. you've also written some talking your some books talking about your your latest book. >> my latest book is the one in the middle, the shadow network, which is my fifth book. this is my fifth. the my third, fourth and fifth. the other under table. other two are under the table. we wouldn't fit we thought they wouldn't all fit on the on the on the, um, in the lens. network lens. uh, the shadow network is. yes fifth book. it's been yes my fifth book. it's been very well reviewed. it's got very well reviewed. um, it's got some incredible little blurbs in the days. one of the the last few days. one of the i'm not sure i'm allowed mentioned newspapers, but the daily mail , mentioned newspapers, but the daily mail, um, can mention that the mail referred me as the daily mail referred to me as as become britain's. as having become britain's. britain's david baldacci, who is my single favourite all time writer. it couldn't be a writer. so it couldn't be a bigger praise. and then bigger bit of praise. and then just today, the sunday times, um, picked it as one of their thrillers of month and said thrillers of the month and said it the british reacher. it was the british jack reacher. so high praise for me , it's so high praise for me, it's james bond for the 21st century. so give us a sort of summary of what it is. it starts my two

main characters, my two main characters. joe dempsey is an international espionage, um, intelligence agent and my intelligence agent. uh, and my other is michael other character is michael devlin, an irish criminal barrister dark devlin. barrister with a dark devlin. >> good name, both of them are named um , sort of named after, um, sort of ancestors of my mum and, uh, and yeah, they get involved in. >> there's a shooting in the grot market in the hague. um one of the people who gets shot is a friend of michael's. uh, michael . being a barrister, this guy's a there for a lawyer. he's over there for a war tribunal . um, michael war crimes tribunal. um, michael and dempsey go over there to find this chap, to find where he is. is he dead? is he alive? and they find themselves thrown headlong into a massive, overarching conspiracy that goes back a hundred years in involving covert russian agents . involving covert russian agents. oh, i love that. >> there we go. the spies, those are my favourite books. >> it's very spicy, very spicy. >> it's very spicy, very spicy. >> firefox used to read >> it's very spicy, very spicy. >> fire firefox used to read >> it's very spicy, very spicy. >> fire firefox books.ed to read >> it's very spicy, very spicy. >> fire firefox books. what's�*ad all the firefox books. what's his ? craig. daniel craig, his name? craig. daniel craig, not thinking not daniel craig. i'm thinking of something his of daniel craig. something his name was craig stevens. i think it he used to it was. i don't know, he used to write good books. write some very good books. yeah, obviously yeah, yeah, but obviously i

haven't a book. haven't written a book. i haven't written a book. i haven't written a book. i haven't written a book ever. but i bookin haven't written a book ever. but i book in years, i haven't read a book in years, like fully read a book. really? yeah, a bit of spare, but yeah, i read a bit of spare, but then in the middle. then i got bored in the middle. it too. just i find that it was too. just i find that i don't have that. >> harry book. >> the prince harry book. >> the prince harry book. >> awful. awful. >> yeah, it was awful. awful. i couldn't do it. i didn't i couldn't do it. i didn't i couldn't to pick couldn't bring myself to pick that much whingeing. i that up too much whingeing. i didn't buy it. somebody me didn't buy it. somebody sent me a copy so i could just look at it. to pay it. but i wasn't prepared to pay for but it's too much for it. but it's just too much rambling whingeing, i rambling and whingeing, and i tend to about half of tend to read about half of the book, then to get book, and then i tend to get bored. spy books and bored. but spy books and anything that's got conspiracy in yeah, might be in it, yeah, yeah, you might be able to grab, well, there's conspiracies your conspiracies coming out your ears one. ears in this one. >> this way, that way, >> this or this way, that way, that so hopefully it will that way. so hopefully it will keep there a is there >> and is there a is there a sort twist the end. sort of twist at the end. >> oh, there's twist at >> oh, there's always a twist at the end. got to have i'm the end. you've got to have i'm a believer you're a big believer when you're writing these books. you've got to you've got to start with a bang. you've got to start with a bang. you've got to twist. to end with a twist. >> and so and it's not out yet is it? >> it comes out e thursday, >> is. it comes out on thursday, comes out on thursday. had comes out on thursday. we had a launch week with launch event this week with another next week another launch event next week because party, because any excuse for a party, um, but yeah, it's out on thursday. it can be pre—ordered,

but will in shops, but it will be in the shops, on the thursday. but it will be in the shops, on the wow. thursday. but it will be in the shops, on the wow. 15th thursday. but it will be in the shops, on the wow. 15th ofthursday. but it will be in the shops, on the wow. 15th of february 2020 >> wow. 15th of february 2020 for pre—order you can get yours the sounds the shadow network. wow. sounds good. you good. how long did it take you to tony? to write it, tony? >> took a bit >> um, this one took a bit longer post covid post longer because post covid post everything, criminal everything, the way the criminal justice system is, everything's gone everything's gone a bit mad. everything's got very, very busy. there's not that we that many barristers left. we lost of so lost about half of them. so everyone's scrambling around. >> long? two years. >> how long? two years. >> how long? two years. >> barristers. >> let's do that at barristers. >> let's do that at barristers. >> year. it's >> normally one year. it's normally year beginning to normally one year beginning to end. one took two two years. >> listen, wish you all >> listen, tony, i wish you all the best that. sounds the best with that. sounds great. thank you very much. that is barrister writer is criminal barrister and writer tony great listen, tony brent. great book. listen, if in, welcome if you've just tuned in, welcome on gb news. it's on board. this is gb news. it's fast approaching 19 minutes after i'm nana akua coming after 5:00. i'm nana akua coming up supplements sunday with my panellists. pick out some news stories that caught their eye. but time for the great but next it's time for the great british debate this hour and i'm asking, you volunteer to asking, would you volunteer to police borders .

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should texas style should deploy texas style blockades into the shallow waters off the coast of northern france to help prevent smugglers getting off boats into the sea. but could this be enough to help stop the boats now? many have crossed this year. lots as we know. uh, and we could go further in this country and deploy potentially volunteers to police them. you think? police them. what do you think? is that actually possible ? so is that actually possible? so for the great british debate this hour , i thought i'd ask you this hour, i thought i'd ask you whether would up for whether you would be up for volunteering to do just or volunteering to do just that or joining to discuss former joining me to discuss former border force chief kevin saunders, the leader of ukip , saunders, the leader of ukip, neil hamilton, and also former adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley . all right. well, i'm rowley. all right. well, i'm going to start with you, kevin. is a possibility that is that even a possibility that you could have as we have volunteer police forces, uh, volunteer police forces, uh, volunteer army recruits . we have volunteer army recruits. we have a territorial army. they're volunteers. could we not have something for border force? no >> you couldn't border border force job working on the passenger arrival control is a very specialist and very

difficult job to do. >> you have to be able to talk to people . you have to be able to people. you have to be able to people. you have to be able to deal with people that are unhappy. you ideally would be able to have another language in your pocket . your pocket. >> there's all sorts of things that you would have to be able to do to make a good border force. >> i o force. >> i 0 but i've ticked all three. >> i've ticked all three, so you know what i mean. i can speak another language, i can deal with people, i can talk to people. i'm thinking, why are they not considering something where they have they train? can you some of the people you not train some of the people who they're saying are idle, sitting at home doing nothing that they to? can we not that they want to? can we not have volunteer have some sort of volunteer border force idea? is that not i'll come to charlie. i'll come back you. kevin. charlie back to you. kevin. charlie >> you're absolutely could. >> yes. you're absolutely could. >> yes. you're absolutely could. >> and i don't see why not. because, as you said earlier on, you volunteer police . you you have a volunteer police. you have the army reserve. you don't actually necessarily need to be the one dealing with an issue. but you are a volunteer and but if you are a volunteer and you something ,

but if you are a volunteer and you something, you can you spot something, you can alert the correct authorities anyway to your to your anyway to come to your to your aid assistance . it's the aid and assistance. it's the pubuc aid and assistance. it's the public general policing public in general policing themselves. you know, members of themselves. you know, members of the public spot crime all the time. call the police and time. they call the police and the down and deal the police come down and deal with side. with that nitty gritty side. the actual enforcement like, actual enforcement side, like, you you need to from you know, you need to see from a proper enforced officer , proper border enforced officer, but you can certainly have a voluntary , uh, arm to that . and voluntary, uh, arm to that. and i was i was just in the gym downstairs at this very studio nana sort of making sure that if i were called up, mean, it i were called up, i mean, it would be very desperate times, but, know, would do all but, you know, i would do all that protect our that i could to protect our borders needed . borders if that was needed. >> i would, >> yeah. i mean, i would, i would sign up to a volunteer border give one day border force and give one day a week or something to go and train i quite train and practice, and i quite enjoy . neil hamilton yeah, enjoy it. neil hamilton yeah, well, you nana, i take well, like you nana, i take three boxes, two. >> and i'd be very happy to be in the border force or indeed on the channel coast with my pitchfork as a kind of dad's army of manning our borders. no pitchfork , no pitchforks . but i

pitchfork, no pitchforks. but i think, you know , this is think, you know, this is something we should consider more widely. >> i mean, switzerland has a citizen army, for example, and we know how under—resourced our armed forces are, generally, just the border force . so just like the border force. so what want to do create what we want to do is create a much greater sense of civic duty amongst population giving amongst our population by giving them to do, them a chance to do, in a voluntary or kind of reserve capacity. >> um, many of the jobs which we can't get full time equivalents . can't get full time equivalents. for, see kevin. >> so kevin, we've all said we can do the three things that you said. complex. said. it's quite complex. we know do something know we could do something that's supporting on that's maybe supporting those on the some way, but the front line in some way, but why it an impossible why is it such an impossible task or not? something can be considered . considered. >> and let me let me try and explain. okay, we've used police officers, retired police officers, retired police officers and, um, current mod police officers as, uh, to fill gaps at high days and holidays on the border control . but that on the border control. but that while . they're, they're terribly while. they're, they're terribly

good people and they're certainly the police officers are very good at talking to people. they just do not have the in—depth knowledge to deal with anybody other than british citizens. i mean, how would you land an argentinian , for land an argentinian, for example? what would you do with, um , a german national with no id um, a german national with no id card? you know, these are things that you come across all the time and you can't sit at a desk and put your hand up and call, uh , an immigration officer over uh, an immigration officer over and say , look, i've got this and say, look, i've got this problem because all you would be doing is, um , having, uh, doing is, um, having, uh, immigration officers basically doing the job full time . um, and doing the job full time. um, and how would you pick a forgery ? how would you pick a forgery? what what what what would you look at? for example , in an look at? for example, in an italian residency card to see whether it was forged or not? >> well, neil, neil's shaking his head there. i think we can all learn those things. but, neil, what you i don't neil, what do you think? i don't see i couldn't learn that.

see why i couldn't learn that. neil well, that's neil yeah, well, that's absolutely right. >> people be >> of course people can be trained jobs . >> of course people can be trained jobs. um, trained up to do these jobs. um, it's rocket science, it's not exactly rocket science, is it? yes. >> there's no doubt a huge variety of different, uh , variety of different, uh, situations that that occur. and you can't necessarily train somebody up for them. >> all right. at the start . but >> all right. at the start. but you've got to start somewhere. >> when you recruit people into the border force right at the very beginning, if they're working there full time, they have learn the similarly. have to learn the job similarly. >> don't see why this can't >> so i don't see why this can't be done on a part time basis as well . it seems to be done on a part time basis as well. it seems to me a counsel of despair to say because of despair to say that because there's all too there's difficulties all too difficult, never do anything difficult, we never do anything if took view, charlie if we took that view, charlie bowling . bowling. >> yeah. i think we just need bowling. >>separate i think we just need bowling. >> separate the hink we just need bowling. >> separate the 21k we just need bowling. >> separate the 2 or we just need bowling. >> separate the 2 or 3e just need bowling. >> separate the 2 or 3 issues1eed to separate the 2 or 3 issues out because border force are responsible so responsible for so many different think the different things. i think the thing that kevin was talking about you're about in particular is if you're sitting if you're, uh sitting on a desk, if you're, uh , letting into the , letting people into the country, if you're making that decision where people turn up, perhaps legally, that is one aspect . um, but you could aspect of it. um, but you could be volunteer casual observer be a volunteer casual observer on the south—east of, uh , south

on the south—east of, uh, south coast, for example, or the south—east for example. south—east of kent, for example. just in overnight just taking part in overnight patrols, just as an observer, if you see illegal crossings, you then see illegal crossings, for example, you can then alert the much needed authorities to then go and intercept the boats or intercept intercept the individuals that might be needed as volunteer . so i individuals that might be needed as volunteer. so i think individuals that might be needed as volunteer . so i think there as a volunteer. so i think there are many, many roles that the border do carry border force obviously do carry out. high skilled, out. the much more high skilled, much uh , ones that much more, uh, ones that need tougher are going to tougher decisions are going to be people that will be trained and be qualified, but the and will be qualified, but the lesser where it might just lesser roles where it might just be or be an observation capacity or one you just be one where you could just be a volunteer. think that's right. volunteer. i think that's right. to the public where to involve the public where there shortfall in the there is a shortfall in the numbers people. numbers of people. >> you know, >> yeah. and i think you know, i'm a lawyer by profession and i'd very happy to put my i'd be very happy to put my legal skills at the disposal of the border force. i'm perfectly capable of dealing with asylum seekers or others trying to enter the country and interrogate them , cross—examine interrogate them, cross—examine them on their motives and their qualifications . and there must qualifications. and there must be lots of people like me who are retired or they've wound down in their profession

prepared to do that. >> well , very prepared to do that. >> well, very quickly, prepared to do that. >> well , very quickly, kevin prepared to do that. >> well, very quickly, kevin , >> well, very quickly, kevin, very quickly. your 20s what are your thoughts on that? we're all willing to learn and do it and do whatever we're capable of doing within it. why aren't the government offering? doing within it. why aren't the gover if1ent offering? doing within it. why aren't the gover if you're offering? doing within it. why aren't the gover if you're that offering? doing within it. why aren't the gover if you're that keen,ffering? doing within it. why aren't the gover if you're that keen, then g? well, if you're that keen, then i would invite you to actually join or attempt to join border force full time and become very valued members of the team. >> you can't do it on one day a week. i'm very sorry. come and join us. >> well, how about volunteers, though? i think you could have a volunteer force. well, so what do you think, then? or no? do you think, then? yes or no? then would be to prepared then would you be to prepared volunteer? rowley ? volunteer? charlie rowley? >> yes. sign me up. go on. sign me i'll see you tomorrow. me up. i'll see you tomorrow. kevin. >> neil hamilton, would you be prepared to? i certainly would rather. to you rather. yeah. and finally to you then about you, kevin ? then what about you, kevin? would would i go back? would would you would i go back? would you? yeah volunteer. what would i go back? >> i doubt very much if they would have me back. to be honest . well, they might take because they'll take you as a volunteer. >> they would. >> kevin. i'm sure they would.

kevin. i kevin. thank you very much. i very it. very much doubt it. >> border force chief >> former border force chief neil ukip leader and neil hamilton, ukip leader and author rowley, thank you author charlie rowley, thank you very your thoughts. author charlie rowley, thank you verthis your thoughts. author charlie rowley, thank you verthis gb your thoughts. author charlie rowley, thank you verthis gb your thottv, s. author charlie rowley, thank you verthis gb your thottv, online >> this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we continue with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, you volunteer asking, would you volunteer to police our borders? you'll hear the of panel author the thoughts of my panel author and christine and broadcaster christine hamilton, from hamilton, also broadcast from journalist danny kelly. but first, let's get your latest news . news headlines. >> nana, thank you very much . >> nana, thank you very much. and good. good evening from the gb newsroom . it'sjust gone gb newsroom. it's just gone 5:30. we start with the latest developments in the israel hamas conflict. the uk government tonight is warning israel against its planned full scale offensive in the southern gaza city of rafah, with ministers here saying it could be catastrophic for civilians . catastrophic for civilians. those warnings come ahead of an expected call tonight between us president joe biden and benjamin netanyahu to discuss those plans in rafah .joe biden, though, has in rafah. joe biden, though, has previously described it as over the top. however the israeli

prime minister has told reporters today that enough of the 132 remaining hostages are still alive to warrant the ground offensive earlier , tanks, ground offensive earlier, tanks, troops and bulldozers could be seen operating along the gaza—israel border. benjamin . gaza—israel border. benjamin. netanyahu, though, says that he does have a plan to evacuate civilians from the crowded area beforehand . yesterday, at least beforehand. yesterday, at least 44 people, including several children, died in what the palestinians claim were israeli air strikes . back here in the air strikes. back here in the uk, a vigil has been held this afternoon in warrington, marking one year since the murder of 16 year old transgender teenager brianna ghey. brianna's mother, esther ghey, spoke at the gathering , remembering her gathering, remembering her daughter as a mazing, unique and joyful . she also urged other joyful. she also urged other parents to cherish their children. this afternoon, the community was gathered , many community was gathered, many dressed in pink, to pay their respects and celebrate brianna's life . there's been another life. there's been another

setback for aircraft carrier hms prince of wales after its departure was cancelled at the last minute. a propeller issue stopped it from being sent to oversee a nato drill , the oversee a nato drill, the largest of its kind since the cold war . the £3 largest of its kind since the cold war. the £3 billion vessel was meant to take over from its sister ship, which was also forced to cancel its deployment forced to cancel its deployment for a similar issue with its propeller . despite hundreds of propeller. despite hundreds of people arriving in portsmouth to watch the warship , hms prince of watch the warship, hms prince of wales failed to leave the harbour and the king has attended a service at a church in sandringham this morning for the first time since his cancer diagnosis, his majesty walked alongside queen camilla and waved hello to well—wishers last night. king charles thanked the nafion night. king charles thanked the nation for their overwhelming support in his first public message since the diagnosis announcement , the monarch said announcement, the monarch said such kind . thoughts are of great such kind. thoughts are of great comfort and encourage judgement to him. buckingham palace have said is facing a form of said he is facing a form of cancen said he is facing a form of cancer, though it's unrelated to

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isn't it ? according to the isn't it? according to the latest figures, 1506 migrants have crossed this year alone, so could we go further in this country and deploy volunteers to police those borders? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, would you volunteer to do just that? would you volunteer to police our borders? well, let's see what my panel make of that. joining me, author and broadcaster christine hamilton, and also broadcast and journalist kelly, right . journalist danny kelly, right. christine hamilton, would you volunteer ? volunteer? >> well, i wouldn't be much use because i'm a bit a physical because i'm a bit of a physical crock, really. yes , in crock, really. but yes, in principle, the spirit spirit would willing to would be very, very willing to do what really want do that. but what i really want is i for the french to is i want is for the french to say you catch them say yes. if you catch them on your , you can turn them your beaches, you can turn them around them to around and send them back to us. that's need and that's what we need to do. and but would very happy but yes, i would be very happy to man the beaches in doven >> yes. what about you, danny? >> yes. what about you, danny? >> ak 44? >> with my ak 44? >> with my ak 44? >> 47. >> no, no, 47. >>— >> no, no, 47. >> even . >> even. >> even. >> what's the 47? i have no idea . know an ak is. . i don't know what an ak is. >> i, uh, my sea legs aren't the best. so i on the beach , you'd

best. so i on the beach, you'd best. so i on the beach, you'd be on the beach doing no shooing them off. >> you know, you're on the beach on side . on the other side. >> doing on the >> you're doing what, on the french the british side? french side or the british side? >> into detail. it's >> don't go into detail. it's just the principle. would you be prepared with nana? because >> important with nana? because she to. what nana wants she wants me to. what nana wants me to do is, is. i am going to be like a smuggled be almost like a smuggled individual myself . so i am going individual myself. so i am going to be based amongst those people who've paid thousands of pounds. and what i do is and apparently what i do is i wait they get on the dinghy wait till they get on the dinghy 20 yards out, then stab it. >> no, you don't stab it, you get on it and it sinks. >> oh, i see, i, i see what's he on— >> oh, i see, i, i see what's he on about. >> no, by him by 20 i oh i love the of those buoys though the idea of those buoys though that getting them. >> that's a brilliant idea isn't it. not to. you're it. it's not going to. you're going to need a hell of a lot. >> is french coast >> how long is the french coast facing it's hundreds >> how long is the french coast fa> how long is the french coast fa> how long is the french coast fa> how long is the french coast fa

boys. >> danny balls. her eyes lit up. massive . just massive big balls. just visualise that christine . not visualise that christine. not for the first time. and then you've got these dinghies and then your dinghies are trying to get over the big balls . get over the over the big balls. it's impossible. >> the dinghies wouldn't be >> if the dinghies wouldn't be able to get over the big balls. >> but question is, would >> but the question is, would the be big enough and the balls be big enough and would you be able to? they'd have to be very closely tied together. that's balls. together. that's tight balls. >> it. >> otherwise stop it. >> otherwise stop it. >> . they could >> you could. they could cut a path. they could just. >> it needs some sort of. >> well, it needs some sort of. it's a good idea. be careful. if they're going to cut it apart because then they might. and because then they might. oh, and then slice the dinghy at the same time. you're not to same time. you're not going to be on board, be easy to take that on board, is it? >> can i can i just say one quick did said quick thing? i did i said something incorrect earlier. can i right? seconds. two i put it right? two seconds. two seconds. a viewer seconds. patrick, who's a viewer who loves show, loves you, who loves the show, loves you, etcetera, love etcetera, etc, doesn't love me. >> i using both arms. >> all of you. >> all of you. >> yes. >> yes. >> time running out. exactly i said that that too many of the forces were overweight and he corrected i should have corrected me. i should have said unfit. apparently three out unfit. and apparently three out of ten are unfit for service.

>> not fit enough, just combat. just get back to the policing of the borders. so if we're on, if christine and i almost like a dad's army type scenario . so, dad's army type scenario. so, mrs. mannering, we're on the beaches and we've got a load of dinghies landing. how do we police the illegals? what are we supposed to do? >> do you mean? well we're >> what do you mean? well we're policing the borders, the dinghies are about to land. >> well, we will have pushed them into the sea . them back into the sea. >> you don't them back into >> you don't push them back into the sea. >> what supposed to do exactly? >> with what? you. >> with what? what do you. what about. listen, would about. no, listen, it would be good. boats good. you can't turn the boats back. would you be prepared back. but would you be prepared to to do what to volunteer to help do what though? well, to do whatever it takes me example about >> give me an example about policing once the policing the borders. once the dinghies are. >> kevin said you weren't listening. >> well, i difficult. >> well, i that's difficult. >> well, i that's difficult. >> football, >> i was watching the football, watching >> i was watching the football, watoh, g >> i was watching the football, watoh, you little grass. >> oh, you little grass. >> oh, you little grass. >> kevin >> you have enlisting kevin saunders was telling us that actually we what they do at these processing centres. so you might of the might help with some of the processing. be processing. you might be checking the papers. checking some of the papers. you might some might might have some you might have some roles , or some administrative roles, or you be one of those who you might be one of those who might on the boats. if

might go out on the boats. if you the dinghies. so you spot the dinghies. so you might spotter of seeing might be a spotter of seeing them there's them or whatever. so there's lots of jobs. he was basically giving us some roles that people may some them may do. obviously some of them are others, are more skilled than others, but said that, you know, but he said that, you know, he gave us things you gave us three things that you need be able to do. you need need to be able to do. you need to be able to i can do to be able to talk. i can do that deal with people. i'm that talk, deal with people. i'm a great person. do a great people person. i can do that. have that. finally uh, do you have another yes another language? yes >> yeah, i speak a bit. >> yeah, i speak a bit. >> probably not right one, >> probably not the right one, though. what language do most of them you lock the thing. >> baloney. you lock the thing. >> baloney. you lock the thing. >> surely. the key word is. >> would you volunteer? would you freely to you give up your time freely to try and help repel the boarders in some shape or form and i would i would absolutely give my time to do that. >> i think that would be great. i'd up for that. right. i'd be up for that. but. right. so without you so there's nothing without you and welcome and your views. let's welcome our is on to our great british voice is on to the opportunity to the show. their opportunity to be they be on and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. got of discussing. i've got three of you. right. let's start with who should start should should we start with? should we start from start with, uh, julie from bedfordshire ? uh, let's see what bedfordshire? uh, let's see what she has to say. it'll be interesting up interesting whether she'd be up for is julie for volunteering. where is julie 7 for volunteering. where is julie

? julie julie from ? julie? me? julie julie from bedfordshire . hair looks nice. bedfordshire. hair looks nice. julie, what have you done there? that's very nice. i need to fringe. i've got a fringe. i think i might cut myself a fringe. uh, julie. so what do you think? would be to you think? would you be to prepared volunteer to take some part or some role in helping to police ? police our borders? >> absolutely. i'm standing next to christine with an ak 47. >> there . >> i'm there. >> i'm there. >> absolutely. she's an ak 44. i think there's a no guns, think there's a she's no guns, no weapons, no weapons , no guns. no weapons, no weapons, no guns. you're joking. you don't mean that. julie doesn't mean that. no. you mean i'm with. no. but you mean i'm with. >> i'm. i'm standing next to christine. am absolutely christine. i am absolutely volunteer to police our borders . volunteer to police our borders. >> um, i can speak another language . >> um, i can speak another language. i'm >> um, i can speak another language . i'm certainly a people language. i'm certainly a people person. as know, nana. person. and as you know, nana. i can talk for england. um so, yeah, think i tick the yeah, i think i tick all the boxes do sign up? boxes where do i sign up? >> do you think the army are >> um, do you think the army are missing up, missing a trick? uh, next up, we've in we've got gareth wyn jones in snowdonia . are they missing? are snowdonia. are they missing? are we a trick here that we we missing a trick here that we could have a sort volunteer could have a sort of volunteer border force or some recruits who do you who could help out? what do you think, gareth? >> to be little bit, >> i'm going to be a little bit, um, contradicted here. now, i'm

going to say that maybe we need the border force to keep people going to say that maybe we need the b0|country:e to keep people going to say that maybe we need the b0|country very keep people going to say that maybe we need the b0|country very ,eep people going to say that maybe we need the b0|country very , veryyeople going to say that maybe we need the b0|country very , very soon. in this country very, very soon. >> the way this country is going . um, yeah, we're going to have to have borders to keep people here to work and the way honestly, the morning i've had on gb news has been crazy. >> but let's think about what we had with the home guard . had with the home guard. >> let's think about the volunteers that came in to, you know , the war rag, the women know, the war rag, the women that fed this nation just after the war. >> these people, volunteers can come in and do anything and everything . but as we are everything. but as we are running now, i think people . running now, i think people. will be running out of this country leaving a sinking ship because . because. >> because as things are, this is getting very, very poor and it's is getting very, very poor and wsfime is getting very, very poor and it's time we stuck together and started to drive forward in a positive way . positive way. >> yeah. here, here. lastly, john reid, he's there in kidderminster. john, would you be to prepared you know a lot

about all of this stuff. so what would you be prepared to police our borders? a volunteer . our borders? a volunteer. >> well yes i would nana but i think practical think there's a few practical problems associated with it. number one, i'm 75 years of age, so i can't actually chase many people nowadays . number two, i people nowadays. number two, i live kidderminster in live in kidderminster in worcestershire. it's a fair drive to dover to the drive to dover to stop the immigrants through . um, immigrants coming through. um, but principle. i agree but i've been principle. i agree with gareth. we need to do something because the country is going . down the pan, isn't it? going. down the pan, isn't it? and we need to change of government or a change of something to improve it. make people want stay do people want to stay and do something about keeping people want to stay and do something are about keeping people want to stay and do something are onlyabout keeping people want to stay and do something are only coming eping people want to stay and do something are only coming here] those that are only coming here for gain to keep them for monetary gain to keep them out, unless there of any use to us, if they're only used . i'm up us, if they're only used. i'm up for it, you know. but i'm not sure. there's lots of doctors and nurses and care workers coming little coming across on little dinghies. no? >> that's the thing, isn't >> well, that's the thing, isn't it? yes, i'd be prepared to do it? yes, i'd be prepared to do it as well. i think we've got a clean sweep. thank you very much to british voices. to my great british voices. juue to my great british voices. julie ford in bedfordshire. uh, gareth jones snowdonia julie ford in bedfordshire. uh, garejohn jones snowdonia julie ford in bedfordshire. uh, garejohn joneskidderminster.

and john reid in kidderminster. thank to thank you so much. lovely to talk you. yeah. well, would talk to you. yeah. well, would you prepared on the you be prepared to do it on the way sunday with way next supplement sunday with my pick out some my panellists. uh, pick out some of caught of the stories that caught

radio. good afternoon. >> if you're just tuned in, where have you been? it's only the last ten minutes of the show and nana akua it's now time for supplements my supplements sunday, where my panel some the panel and i discuss some of the news stories that caught their eye. right. let's see. joining me, danny kelly and also christine hamilton . danny kelly, christine hamilton. danny kelly, we'll start with you. what have christine hamilton. danny kelly, we'lgot?�*t with you. what have you got? >> well, uh, yeah, emma thompson, not to thompson, who told us not to travel across the planet in aircraft who famously gone on a 747 first class to fly from los angeles to london to tell us not to travel on aircraft. well, we've another hypocrite . we've got another hypocrite. we've got queen brian we've got queen guitarist brian may, tells not to travel may, who tells us not to travel on yet. we'll travel on on aircraft yet. we'll travel on internal private aircraft in japan. he's been accused of hypocrisy what he says is hypocrisy and what he says is that it's okay. it's okay because when our team are

booking private planes, we always to . a scheme always contribute to. a scheme to offset the carbon emissions. why don't you just contribute to a scheme for carbon emission reduction yet get on a charter plane? both. plane? you could do both. they're exclusive. they're not mutually exclusive. you but you you can still offset, but you can on a plane. first can still jump on a plane. first class go first class, travel in as much luxury you want. but as much luxury as you want. but this guys is a scam, isn't it? >> really? that's a anyway. >> really? that's a scam anyway. >> really? that's a scam anyway. >> okay, you can >> it's not okay, but you can plant you can plant thousands of trees, can still take a trees, but you can still take a seven, love seven, four, seven. they love people that. seven, four, seven. they love peo love that. seven, four, seven. they love peo love telling . seven, four, seven. they love peo love telling us little people >> love telling us little people what to what to what to do and what not to do. and follow and yet they don't follow their own right. it stinks of >> that's right. so it stinks of hypocrisy. he's defended himself. >> course he would. got >> of course he would. he's got left to well, left in there to do that. well, christine hamilton i mean christine hamilton well i mean this believe this this i couldn't believe this when but it is in the when i read it, but it is in the newspaper, it true. newspaper, so it is true. >> operators now >> train operators are now blaming. on the blaming. we've had leaves on the line. we've had this, we've had that. the wrong that. and now it's the wrong sort sunlight they sort of sunlight. they can't handle the sunlight. it affects their driver site. well, i kind of get that actually. but it's the wrong kind of sunlight. apparently there were disrupted in years. there in the past three years. there have been 4206 services

disrupted . um, goodness knows disrupted. um, goodness knows how many hours and 15 days of delays . and this has caused delays. and this has caused massive payouts in compensation to operators for unplanned disruption. i mean, you just when you thought it was safe to come out of the sea, as it were, you now get hit by the wrong sort of sunlight delaying the trains. i mean , honestly, that's trains. i mean, honestly, that's ridiculous. trains. i mean, honestly, that's ridiwhat;. trains. i mean, honestly, that's ridiwhat sort of sunlight it then? >> well, it was just wrong. >> well, it was just wrong. >> it was. it was bright. i mean, their in their defence. mean, in their in their defence. yes. i mean, we all know what it's like to be driving you it's like to be driving and you can't, especially your can't, especially if your windscreen dirty. windscreen is a bit dirty. >> sunlight. yeah, >> one kind of sunlight. yeah, but type sunlight. >> i wu- >> surely. i know, maybe it's very sun . very low sun. >> um, let's be honest, it may be the newspaper that has put in this wrong kind of sunlight going back to the wrong kind of leaves. they're just harping back. not be, but no, back. so it may not be, but no, the have blamed the train operators have blamed the train operators have blamed the kind of sunlight. the wrong kind of sunlight. i mean, brilliant, isn't it? >> and finally, my one is king charles. it's good to see him out we're out and about because we're seeing it's lovely, seeing him out now. it's lovely, isn't it? right. but now isn't it? yeah. right. but now it's which is it's time for my final, which is clip bait and today. danny.

yeah. recognise this guy? yeah. you recognise this guy? have a look. on yeah. you recognise this guy? have a look. oh oh, that's danny , that's me. that is you. there's a picture if you're listening on the radio. is danny in his , uh, wnyc radio days with in his, uh, wnyc radio days with two people either side of you? do you recognise any of those people either side? no, i can't look am, but no look how handsome i am, but no slightly thinner you at. slightly thinner you look at. >> you've a beard. did >> say you've got a beard. did you slight beard? >> say you've got a beard. did youi've slight beard? >> say you've got a beard. did youi've hadslight beard? >> say you've got a beard. did youi've had some beard? >> say you've got a beard. did youi've had some stubble. >> i've had some stubble. >> i've had some stubble. >> yeah. that is that >> stubble? yeah. that is that is radio is danny kelly in his radio days. somebody me days. well, somebody sent me that on facebook because i have a facebook and a little facebook page and somebody. thought, somebody. who was it? i thought, well , it was somebody. who was it? i thought, well, it was your friend. he said hi to danny. used to said hi to danny. he used to appear on your show providing a finance show . can't you do you finance show. can't you do you not remember his name? >> uh, no. we used to have many sorts of contributors. i can't remember . remember. >> finance are putting him on the post. >> i can't remember. >> i can't remember. >> i've forgotten you, peter. >> i've forgotten you, peter. >> well, you've peter, who ? >> well, you've peter, who? >> well, you've peter, who? >> peter hunt? yes >> peter hunt? yes >> you of course >> oh, peter. you of course i know who peter is. peter hunt,

listen , i used to have so many listen, i used to have so many contributors , but i remember contributors, but i remember peter was excellent. god this has gone down like a sack of lead balloons. >> really? well, it just shows that he wasn't any warning. >> mean , danny had no idea >> i mean, danny had no idea that i had no idea. >> obviously. it's great to hear from and from him again. yeah. and he's obviously obviously obviously he is. he's obviously followed gb news and he's a fan of is great. so of gb news which is great. so many in the midlands are many people in the midlands are your number one fan. >> i love the way he's distracted. now it compliment. >> so it is . it should >> so it is. it should be. >> so it is. it should be. >> compliment evaporates >> a compliment evaporates that peter of just peter sent a picture of just deflected from remember who the ally was. >> it's great hear him again. >> yes, peter , thank you very >> yes, peter, thank you very much. thanks. send that to my little facebook page. thank you very peter. lovely picture very much, peter. lovely picture of more of danny looking slightly more svelte does now, he svelte than he does now, but he still anyone's got any ghastly >> if anyone's got any ghastly pictures past, do pictures of me in the past, do not to nana, please. not send them to nana, please. i got myself. got one myself. >> we actually look in it. >> we actually look good in it. but on today's show, but listen, on today's show, i've been asking, would you volunteer police our borders? volunteer to police our borders? and according to our twitter poll, 69% 69.9. so let's round it . up to 70% of

poll, 69% 69.9. so let's round it. up to 70% of you poll, 69% 69.9. so let's round it . up to 70% of you say yes and it. up to 70% of you say yes and 30% of you say no. they wouldn't . well, i would absolutely police our borders. i'm more than happy to do that. i'll do it volunteer. i'd volunteer it as a volunteer. i'd volunteer and volunteer that i and have a volunteer day that i do it. >> maybe on your expenses, though, wouldn't make a though, wouldn't you make it a daytake bottle or two, each one. >> one. >> your one. >> your expenses, one. >> your expenses, akua. >> your expenses, miss akua. well, much well, listen, thank you so much to panel, and to my panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton. to my panel, author and bro christine, christine hamilton. to my panel, author and bro christine, christiyou iamilton. to my panel, author and bro christine, christiyou ian much to my panel, author and bro christine, christiyouian much . pleasure. >> as always. >> as always. >> broadcast from journalist danny kelly. thank you danny. and you to you for and a huge thank you to you for joining me today. and a huge thank you to you for joining me today . uh, lovely to joining me today. uh, lovely to see see you week. see you. i'll see you next week. same time, same place. on same time, same place. 3:00 on saturday. i'll leave you with the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers is sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> hello there. good evening . >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office the next few days. the theme really is clear showers is clear spells and showers around and we have really around and we have that really as end sunday as well. as we end sunday as well.

showers pushing their in showers pushing their way in from west. quite frequent from the west. quite frequent for some western some for some western districts. some clearer though further clearer spells though further towards and a much towards the east and a much dner towards the east and a much drier for drier night overall though for the north—east. here in the far north—east. here in shetland it is going to be a much wetter one with that band of sweeping through of rain sweeping through underneath. clear underneath. some of those clear spells, underneath. some of those clear speljust drop off a low. will just drop off a bit low. single of us, single figures for many of us, and is possible and a patchy frost is possible first thing on monday morning. maybe as maybe some icy stretches as well. we do have those well. where we do have those showers around, we will continue well. where we do have those sh see �*s around, we will continue well. where we do have those sh see those|nd, we will continue well. where we do have those sh see those showersvill continue well. where we do have those sh see those showers pushing nue to see those showers pushing their most their way in. they will be most frequent heaviest for frequent and heaviest for northwestern areas. some quite blustery around here blustery winds around here at times generally times also, but generally further east and you're further east and south. you're more likely stay dry more likely to stay dry throughout the with a decent throughout the day with a decent number spells there. number of sunny spells in there. as pleasant as well. a relatively pleasant start week . start to the new week. temperatures around 6 to 11 c is pretty much where we would expect them to be for this time in the year. on tuesday got an area pressure just to the area of low pressure just to the north that will bring some north that will again bring some very showers very breezy, blustery showers for but of for scotland, but a ridge of high allows for high pressure allows for a dnen high pressure allows for a drier, finer start for much of northern ireland, england and wales, sunny spells wales, with some sunny spells once start to once again. but we will start to see cloud thickening up from

see the cloud thickening up from the southwest with outbreaks of rain eventually arriving. turning breezier as well. but in amongst all of we have amongst all of this we have milder sweeping its way in, milder air sweeping its way in, so will be on the so temperatures will be on the rise as we head towards the middle seeing middle part of the week, seeing mid—teens of us as we mid—teens for some of us as we head towards wednesday. enjoy the evening by that the rest of your evening by that warm inside from boxt warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of weather on boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news .

the government is tonight warning israel against its planned full scale offensive in the southern gaza city of rafah , the southern gaza city of rafah, with ministers saying it would be catastrophic for civilians. those warnings come ahead of an

expected call between president biden and benjamin netanyahu to discuss his plans in rafah . joe discuss his plans in rafah. joe biden has previously described it as over the top. however the israeli prime minister has told reporters enough of the 132 remaining hostages are alive to warrant a ground offensive . warrant a ground offensive. earlier, tanks and bulldozers were seen operating along the gaza border. however, benjamin netanyahu says he does have a plan to evacuate civilians before troops move in. it comes after at least 44 people, including several children, died yesterday in what the palestinians claim were israeli air strikes . the family of air strikes. the family of murdered teenager brianna ghey have been holding a vigil this afternoon to mark the first anniversary of her death. earlier, we spoke to our north—west of england reporter sophie reaper , who was at that sophie reaper, who was at that gathering . gathering. >> well, one year on from the tragic death of brianna ghey, hundreds of people have gathered here in warrington for a vigil

in her memory. we heard from