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expected call between president biden and benjamin netanyahu to discuss his plans in rafah . joe discuss his plans in rafah. joe biden has previously described it as over the top. however the israeli prime minister has told reporters enough of the 132 remaining hostages are alive to warrant a ground offensive . warrant a ground offensive. earlier, tanks and bulldozers were seen operating along the gaza border. however, benjamin netanyahu says he does have a plan to evacuate civilians before troops move in. it comes after at least 44 people, including several children, died yesterday in what the palestinians claim were israeli air strikes . the family of air strikes. the family of murdered teenager brianna ghey have been holding a vigil this afternoon to mark the first anniversary of her death. earlier, we spoke to our north—west of england reporter sophie reaper , who was at that sophie reaper, who was at that gathering . gathering. >> well, one year on from the tragic death of brianna ghey, hundreds of people have gathered here in warrington for a vigil in her memory. we heard from
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several of brianna's friends who spoke, bringing tears to the eyes of the crowd as they remembered their friend. we also heard from the headteacher at brianna's school. we finally heard from brianna's mother , heard from brianna's mother, esther, who spoke emotionally and emotively about the loss of her daughter. here's what she had to say . had to say. >> brianna was an amazing, unique and joyful teenager. i will be forever thankful that i was lucky enough to spend 16 years with her as she taught me so much and gave me so much happiness and love. if there's one piece of advice that i can give to any parent, it would be to hug your children's height and never stop telling them that you love them . you love them. >> esther ghey . they're the >> esther ghey. they're the mother of brianna ghey . speaking mother of brianna ghey. speaking earlier, the departure of the royal navy aircraft carrier hms prince of wales has been cancelled at the last minute. this afternoon it was about to
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set sail to replace its sister ship, which was also forced to cancelits ship, which was also forced to cancel its deployment due to an issue with its propeller. the £3 billion vessel was to take over, leading the largest nato exercise since the cold war. however, despite people lining the walls of portsmouth harbour to watch the 65,000 tonne warship , it to watch the 65,000 tonne warship, it failed to to watch the 65,000 tonne warship , it failed to leave the warship, it failed to leave the jetty and the king has attended church in sandringham for the first time since his cancer diagnosis . this, his majesty diagnosis. this, his majesty walked alongside queen camilla this morning after last night thanking the nation for their overwhelming support in his first public message since the diagnosis announcement, the monarch said such kind thoughts are of great comfort and encourage to him. buckingham palace have said he is facing a form of cancer. unrelated though to his recent prostate treatment . that's the latest for gb news alerts . you can scan the qr code alerts. you can scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts. now though, it's time for the
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camilla tominey show . camilla tominey show. so to go through the morning papers, i'm delighted to be joined now by martin townsend, former editor of the sunday express and a senior partner at pagefield . senior partner at pagefield. >> martin, to see you >> martin, lovely to see you this morning you let's this morning. see you too. let's get straight in the observer. we've given up the fight, say tories, poll defeats loom. tories, as poll defeats loom. this is cabinet ministers quoted in the observer of all places, talking about how the conservatives are in some sort of doom loop. i mean, have they given up.7 do you agree with that analysis .7 yes. analysis? yes. >> well, they appear be have >> well, they appear to be have given those by elections given up on those by elections this i mean, they're not this week. i mean, they're not really, don't seem to really, you know, don't seem to be do they be campaigning. do they particularly hard not heard much about at in terms about it at all in terms of giving i don't i don't know giving up. i don't i don't know that given up. i just that they've given up. i just think that in a really
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think that they are in a really tight spot at the moment. they they to be able to they don't seem to be able to get out of and i personally get out of it. and i personally blame a of that on blame quite a lot of that on this fixation with rwanda. i just think it's i just think it's wiped everything else off the i think it's the board. and i just think it's beginning look obsessive. beginning to look obsessive. i just they've become just think that they've become sort up it. and sort of eaten up by it. and frankly, i just think most people have, you know, more important actually important things actually to worry in their worry about than that in their day lives with the day to day lives with the economy, the nhs, you know, the fact that you can't walk 20m without smelling cannabis or we've going on we've got shoplifting going on drive hitting drive 20m without hitting a pothole. exactly. >> think rishi sunak >> or do you think rishi sunak is too cautious? i mean, is just too cautious? i mean, the nothing to lose. the bloke's got nothing to lose. why he take the why doesn't he just take the fight to labour? >> that's point. and >> well, that's the point. and i think, know, we've seen this think, you know, we've seen this week, we've. we touch on week, we've. shall we touch on it a minute about the it in a minute about the complete labour disarray? we've had biggest u—turn had the biggest u—turn imaginable and this is u turning, know, on something turning, you know, on something that many labour that many, many labour supporters as point supporters will have as a point of principle. policies are of principle. these policies are are quite dear quite are actually quite dear to quite are actually quite dear to quite a people. a lot of people. >> it's just that thought on >> it's not just that thought on laboun >> it's not just that thought on labour. yes. labour. i will indeed, yes. let's talk about the other elephant in the room, boris
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johnson. yes well, i just thought interesting this thought it was interesting this morning. a piece in the morning. we got a piece in the mail we've got mail on sunday. we've got a piece the telegraph. the piece in the telegraph. the telegraph piece is quite funny because sunak because it's boris telling sunak ring election help. so ring me for election help. so it's you to call me it's like you need to call me and might come back into the and i might come back into the fray. i mean, is the answer to the tories boris the tories woes? boris >> going to do >> well, he's not going to do any harm in terms of campaigning. i don't he campaigning. i don't think he might think he might because i don't think he will. no, no, i don't think he will. no, no, i don't think he will. i think you can. i think you can take him out on you can take him out there on the stumps, stump or the the stumps, on the stump or the stump whatever stump or whatever it is, stomping on the stump, stomping on the i think you can do on the stump. i think you can do that. i think any notion that he's somehow anybody is actually going and replace him going to come in and replace him rishi as leader is rishi sunak as a leader is nonsense. that would just be nonsense. and that would just be completely boris do it, >> why would boris do it, though? would though? why would he? >> he's don't think he >> well, he's i don't think he is going to do it. and i mean, i think he's, he wants he's biding his time. he thinks that the next plan is i think that, next the plan is i think that, you the next leader is not you know, the next leader is not is inherit a kind of, is going to inherit a kind of, you disorganised party. you know, disorganised party. it's fall apart. and
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it's going to fall apart. and he's going to come sort of sweeping in like knight in sweeping in like a knight in shining etc, etc. shining armour, etc, etc. >> shall asking michael >> i shall be asking michael gove what he gove a little later what he thinks bring back thinks about the bring back bofis thinks about the bring back boris which would be very boris plan, which would be very interesting. intrigued to know his go his answer to that. let's go on to whether is or isn't to whether labour is or isn't working. talked about the working. you've talked about the green u—turn, green prosperity pledge u—turn, the on sunday, saying that, the sun on sunday, saying that, um, keir starmer is also sort of lying how money the lying about how much money the windfall will recoup. labour windfall tax will recoup. labour saying the saying it's over 10 billion. the treasury saying it's treasury is saying it's 2 billion. whatever what's the main labour at the main problem with labour at the moment far you're moment as far as you're concerned? i mean they're 20 points the polls. so points ahead in the polls. so they could be saying, well, look, have to do look, we don't have to do anything. just going to anything. we're just going to sail downing street. sail into downing street. >> yes, don't think >> well, yes, i don't think i think problem is that with think the problem is that with this, particularly this this, particularly with this u—turn end of a u—turn coming at the end of a lot of other u—turns, that we've seen, keir starmer is beginning to hasn't got to look like he hasn't got a plan. even if he has got plan. and even if he has got a plan, he's likely to go back on it in ten minutes time, which is exactly what the tories set out to. strategists are to. the tory strategists are absolutely rubbing hands to. the tory strategists are abso glee. rubbing hands to. the tory strategists are abso glee. yeahing hands to. the tory strategists are abso glee. yeah he hands to. the tory strategists are abso glee. yeah he also hands to. the tory strategists are abso glee. yeah he also seems to with glee. yeah he also seems to be odds with his own
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be at odds with his own chancellor, a good look. >> and what you think rachel reevesis >> and what you think rachel reeves is wearing the trousers? well, i think for people like me, at labour party me, looking at the labour party from outside, how much power from the outside, how much power does reeves and rayner have? >> keir starmer >> for instance, keir starmer doesn't be a doesn't seem to me to be a particularly strong leader. he doesn't be decisive. you doesn't seem to be decisive. you know, done that. he's know, he's done that. he's performed big u—turn this performed this big u—turn this week. know, it's all week. so, you know, it's all very for labour to go on very well for labour to go on about divisions in the tories. what divisions in labour? what about divisions in labour? >> about >> yes. let's talk about this ongoing asylum ongoing story about asylum seekers converting to christianity seemingly christianity sometime seemingly at that's at the last minute. and that's allowing keep on allowing them to keep on claiming in this country, claiming asylum in this country, even of them are even though a lot of them are just doing it as a complete scam. and there's this extraordinary story in the extraordinary obe story in the mail only mail on sunday, not only about this asylum battle with this 14 year asylum battle with this 14 year asylum battle with this paedophile who basically has christianity and now has claimed christianity and now two judges are having a row over whether judge has been whether the first judge has been hoodwinked thinking a hoodwinked into thinking he's a christian not. but christian when he's not. but then other story then there's this other story about this pastor who says, i bapfise about this pastor who says, i baptise 500, and there's a photograph of him with the viewers and just for the
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listeners, as a photograph of him sort of in the sea. is he in the channel with these migrants baptising them? and then he says, and funny enough, we never saw 60% of them again. well, of course you wouldn't. this is this is just nonsense. >> it is, it is. and you know, this is this is industri scale baptisms, right within an organised nation that ten minutes ago couldn't get, couldn't assemble five people for a church service. so very good point. yes. you know, you would wonder about this, but you know , there is a serious side to know, there is a serious side to this, which is that the people being rapists , being baptised are rapists, they're murderers, they're sex offenders. you know , where is offenders. you know, where is the archbishop of canterbury kind of on this? kind of view on this? >> well, we hear his views about rwanda yes , he doesn't like rwanda and yes, he doesn't like that plan. so we him at that plan. so we hear him at times, we haven't heard him times, but we haven't heard him on curiously. times, but we haven't heard him on no. curiously. times, but we haven't heard him on no. and»usly. times, but we haven't heard him on no. and isly. times, but we haven't heard him on no. and i think this is a >> no. and i think this is a this is a matter this is a loophole in the law that basically the church are helping along. they're along. right? basically they're allowing seekers who are allowing asylum seekers who are i mean, the church is job as far as i can make out, is to spread
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peace and love and unity and all of these things. how does that square with allowing a rapist or a murderer to stay in this country carry on doing country and carry on doing whatever nefarious things they're whatever nefarious things the i re in the case of this >> i mean, in the case of this paedophile 14 years, i was just reading thinking reading that story thinking these are just laughing these people are just laughing at us. it's going from at us. yes, it's going from one little another to little lawyer to another to another. i mean, the lawyers are making amounts of money making great amounts of money from it. presumably you make the point welby. point about justin welby. interestingly, carey is interestingly, george carey is in , a former in the telegraph, a former archbishop canterbury, archbishop of canterbury, basically saying the church basically saying that the church must crack down, of course, and it seems as if they're being completely exploited. move completely exploited. let's move from church crown . oh, yes, from church to crown. oh, yes, and talk about the king. on the front page of the sunday express is message to the nation, is his message to the nation, basically thank for basically saying thank you for your but also your support, but also how pleased that he's raised pleased he is that he's raised awareness i awareness of cancer, which i think mean, from a pr think i mean, from a pr perspective. did you think that the candle buckingham the candle that buckingham palace just about palace has shown, not just about the prostate , but also the enlarged prostate, but also this a thing? this has been a good thing? i think been fantastic. think it's been fantastic. >> do, and i think it's >> i really do, and i think it's a continuation of how the queen
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was during, know, with her was during, you know, with her famous about covid. famous speech about covid. >> we will meet again. >> we will meet again. >> we will meet again. >> we will meet and, you >> we will meet again. and, you know, whole point about know, the whole point about about the king, you know, is he is there and it's very important at the moment that the king stabilises . at the moment that the king stabilises. it's a very we at the moment that the king stabilises . it's a very we live stabilises. it's a very we live in a very unstable time. it's all the things been all the things we've been discussing and it's discussing this morning and it's very that the monarchy very important that the monarchy is there as a sort of symbol is there as a sort of a symbol of and obviously the of stability. and obviously the idea that the king is ill and, you know, has a you know, a serious condition is going to be worrying for a lot of people. and what he's done here is he's calmed down by being very calmed it down by being very transparent about the things that and also by that are going on, and also by saying , you know, i want to saying, you know, i want to encourage other people to come forward, know, not so forward, you know, not in so many words, but that's what it does because it it kind of raises awareness. >> the sunday take on >> the sunday times is take on it headline, with it with their headline, with sort monarchy. sort of fragile monarchy. it's a fragile of affairs. fragile state of affairs. everything's quite everything's looking quite slimmed there enough slimmed down. are there enough royals around? i mean, royals to go around? i mean, do you about future of you worry about the future of the not at all. the institution? not at all.
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>> i don't worry about it at all because i think actually at this we've seen here, there are there are going on. it was are moves going on. it was interesting that prince william appointed interesting that prince william appoint> i'll be discussing that further anderson further with ailsa anderson a little later the show. martin little later on the show. martin townsend, so for townsend, thank you so much for joining me morning.
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listening to gb news radio. >> yes. >> yes. >> welcome back. former chancellor of the exchequer kwasi kwarteng , mp for kwasi kwarteng, mp for spelthorne, joins me now . kwasi spelthorne, joins me now. kwasi lovely to see you this morning.
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so why are you standing down? well i just thought after 14 years it's quite a long time and it's probably time for to move on and i think that happens in lots of people's lives. i mean, it doesn't show that much confidence in the tories, does it? >> it's a personal decision. and actually many years ago i remember writing a book where i thought we should have time limits for mps because i think people is not that people the danger is not that they too soon, but people they leave too soon, but people stay bit too long. stay on a bit too long. >> it the case that the >> was it the case that the reaction to the mini—budget and everything subsequently everything that subsequently happened bruising? not happened was so bruising? not really. it had impact really. i mean, it had an impact because you wouldn't because last year you wouldn't because last year you wouldn't be that you were going to be saying that you were going to stand down this well, i've been thinking it a time. >> $- time. >> you? how long? and there >> have you? how long? and there was well, ever since, um, the beginning the parliament. beginning of the parliament. actually, had actually, i had thought. i had thought i was minister thought and i was minister of state point. i had state at that point. i had thought that know, three thought that you know, three terms, obviously, we had terms, three obviously, we had more 15 is more elections, but 15 years is probably, in this modern climate, reasonable amount of climate, a reasonable amount of time an mp. a lot of time to be an mp. so a lot of the thinking about that was was frankly, know , germinating
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frankly, you know, germinating in before . in my mind before. >> but you're now one of 56 tories to say they're standing down. mean, you're a majority down. i mean, you're a majority is what, about 18,000. yeah. i'm confident have held the seat. >> i'm not yes i am i wouldn't be somebody would have be somebody who would have thought would thought that i would lose. >> are so many mps >> but why are so many mps jumping well, they have jumping ship? well, they have lots . lots of reasons. >> i mean, for, for a start, i think the fact that we're facing a election has a difficult election has something to do with it. you've got about um, got to be honest about that. um, but being an mp, but the climate of being an mp, a of people are finding that a lot of people are finding that difficult well. it's a huge, difficult as well. it's a huge, uh, you know, stress on family life. hate to say but it's life. i hate to say it, but it's i mean, i've never felt under any physical threat whatsoever. no, a lot no, but i think a lot of colleagues, have. colleagues, frankly, have. >> get a lot of abuse >> did you get a lot of abuse after the mini—budget? >> i mean, 1 or 2 >> not really. i mean, 1 or 2 comments here and there. um, and i use the public. i mean, i always use the public. i mean, people know me knew i always people who know me knew i always use public transport. >> you're always >> yeah, i know you're always out about. yeah, i'm always out and about. yeah, i'm always out and about. yeah, i'm always out about. out and about. >> right. so. and i, >> that's right. so. and i, i took that decision and actually, you know, first month or you know, for the first month or two, odd comment and then,
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two, the odd comment and then, and dies down. i think and then that dies down. i think most very respectful. most people are very respectful. >> on the front >> there's a story on the front of the observer today saying the tories up on the tories have given up on the general so i'm general election. so i'm wondering, rishi wondering, presumably rishi sunak phoned you beg to stay sunak phoned you beg you to stay on. at all. on. no not at all. >> didn't hear anything from >> i didn't hear anything from him. wouldn't him. but really, i wouldn't expect what the expect that because what the prime didn't phone prime minister didn't phone saying you're a former chancellor. no, no, i mean, chancellor. no, no, no, i mean, he busy. he's doing he i mean, he's busy. he's doing his work. he's trying to. >> but he not phoning these >> but is he not phoning these mps saying, no, please. you mps and saying, no, please. you know, me. stick with know, stick with me. stick with the plan. the five point plan. >> not sure their >> i'm not sure that their outreach necessarily outreach plan is necessarily working effectively. working very effectively. explain i just explain that to me. well, i just don't think, um, you know, that that got the bandwidth that they've got the bandwidth to, to, to keep communicating with, with people the with, with people in the way that mm. um, but of that they should. mm. um, but of course, you know, mps or course, you know, with mps or the well, with mps, the public. well, with mps, i mean, that with, mean, you could see that with, with, people like with, you know, people like robert jenrick leaving the government. mean, don't know government. i mean, i don't know what they had, but what conversations they had, but we've be honest. say, we've got to be honest. and say, you some of these, um, you know, some of these, um, personal, know, personal, you know, relationships probably need to be not good at fostering >> is he not good at fostering good relations with his mps? i mean, had cameron, didn't we,
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mean, we had cameron, didn't we, back sort of doing back in the day sort of doing canopies and sandwiches every five minutes. >> it's always >> i think it's always a challenge. to fair to challenge. and to be fair to number have i have been number 10, they have i have been ianed number 10, they have i have been invited things, lots of invited to things, lots of things actually. there are lots of i know, but it is of events, i know, but it is intriguing the prime intriguing that the prime minister contact. minister wouldn't contact. no, i didn't let him. >> he was a chancellor >> i mean, he was a chancellor >> i mean, he was a chancellor >> so to be fair to him, the day i sacked chancellor, he i was sacked as chancellor, he did call me and we had a very good conversation i see him good conversation and i see him occasionally. >> when he >> what did he say when he called he was? >> what did he say when he calii d he was? >> what did he say when he calii mean, he was? >> what did he say when he calii mean, he he was? >> what did he say when he calii mean, he just|e was? >> what did he say when he calii mean, he just|e waryou >> i mean, he just said, you know, commiserated and he was know, he commiserated and he was he a colleague and he's he was a colleague and he's somebody that i have i regard him i we were him as a friend. i mean, we were when parliament, he when he came into parliament, he was clearly one of the, you know, had know, very able people that had come that election among come in in that election among many. i struck many. um, and i struck up a friendship with him. i thought he was really good and capable he was a really good and capable mp. backbench then minister. >> but then, are you disappointed with his performance both chancellor performance as both chancellor and minister? was and indeed prime minister? i was intrigued week intrigued to find out this week that now that the treasury is now briefing cuts, when briefing smaller tax cuts, when only five minutes ago, jeremy hunt sort saying he hunt sort of saying that he wants lawson. >> so look, be fair to rishi >> so look, to be fair to rishi
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and i was responsible for this partly he came in under massive pressure were pressure and the markets were going crazy. he had to stabilise the situation. jeremy hunt , if the situation. jeremy hunt, if you recall, was actually appointed by by by truss. appointed by by by liz truss. i always point out . people always point this out. people always point this out. people always think do we think rishi sunak to have sunak really want to have jeremy? i don't know about jeremy? well, i don't know about that, i've that, but it's unusual and i've said before, unusual said this before, it's unusual for a prime minister not to for a new prime minister not to bnng for a new prime minister not to bring own chancellor of bring in their own chancellor of the . that's rare. it's bring in their own chancellor of timatter . that's rare. it's bring in their own chancellor of timatter of . that's rare. it's bring in their own chancellor of timatter of fact. 'hat's rare. it's bring in their own chancellor of timatter of fact. yes.; rare. it's bring in their own chancellor of timatter of fact. yes. um,�*. it's bring in their own chancellor of timatter of fact. yes. um, and. a matter of fact. yes. um, and i think he was under a lot of pressure. and the situation that he found himself in was, was, was highly charged and difficult. and what he did , i difficult. and what he did, i think he did very well. he stabilised things. he calm. stabilised things. he was calm. he measured approach. he he took a measured approach. he always said that that would only be the first stage. you know, it was necessary but not sufficient to , to calm things down. in to win, to calm things down. in order to win, you had to have a platform, um, and a program that is attractive to a majority or a large number of people. and that's something that i'm afraid i think we're still working on. if you look at the polls, i mean , it's interesting me that
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, it's interesting to me that the situation isn't the polling situation now isn't that what was that different from what it was at end of 2022. yes at the end of 2022. yes >> he's not really moved the dial at all. >> well, i don't think he has. >> well, i don't think he has. >> so what should he do? so i've written about this and i'm very keen that this should happen. >> i don't think there's any chance of us getting back in to government simply just by morshi , you know, steady as she goes. no, i think there's got to be something, uh, there's got to be something, uh, there's got to be something that's attractive to voters than caution voters rather than caution a little bit. i mean, in a way , if little bit. i mean, in a way, if the criticism against liz and i were trying to do was that it was too much, too fast, i think the danger is that you overcorrect and do not very much, you know, very slowly, as it were. yes. and i think there has to be a middle way. well, give me some examples, like the budget for instance, seems to be this kind of, you know, everywhere. >> everything is resting on the budget. doesn't a budget. if he doesn't pull a rabbit on march, rabbit out of the hat on march, the think there has to the sixth, i think there has to be attractive offer. be some attractive offer. >> the you look
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>> what should the if you look like, look broadly at the conservative you know, conservative party. you know, all life, two of the all through my life, two of the principal things that conservatives fighting conservatives should be fighting for lower taxes and secure for are lower taxes and secure borders . stronger immigration. borders. stronger immigration. yeah. and strong on taxes. and if you look at our immigration cap, yes, i mean, there's got to be something on it. i mean, yeah, you know, on two of those metrics, we haven't frankly performed very and performed very well. no. and i've been involved that. performed very well. no. and i've bipeople)lved that. performed very well. no. and i've bipeople have that. performed very well. no. and i've bipeople have beenthat. other people have been responsible for that. >> well, if you were going to cap immigration, you cap immigration, what would you put currently at put it at? it's currently at 755. a matter of 755. so just as a matter of fact, i stood in 2010, our fact, when i stood in 2010, our policy was tens of thousands. >> that's what david cameron said. 14 years later said. and if 14 years later you've got 745,000, that's a problem . you've clearly not done problem. you've clearly not done what you said you were going to do. >> should they say 200,000? i think they should. >> i think they've got to work towards a cap. yeah. and they've got to try and be convincing about got to try and be convincing aboand iht income tax. >> and on taxes, iht income tax. nice would you look at bringing. >> did nice. and if you >> so we did nice. and if you remember liz truss campaigned on reversing the ni increase, reversing the ni tax increase, which we successively did. and the other thing that she
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campaigned on was not increasing corporation tax. now i think our problem, my problem was that we brought in too many things. other things and the mini—budget. we stuck to mini—budget. if we just stuck to those two things and shown some restraint saving same restraint on saving at the same time, think any of the time, i don't think any of the tell me one tax that you think jeremy hunt should reduce in march . well, i would say , um, march. well, i would say, um, looking at, you know, where we are with corporation tax, i don't think that should increase . think thresholds . and i also think thresholds for inheritance tax should be increased. right. because simply there's a lot of drag in that. okay. um, and clearly a lot of people, particularly in the south particularly tory south east, particularly tory areas , um, are having to pay areas, um, are having to pay inheritance tax on properties that parents might have that their parents might have spent all their lives working. although there that although isn't there that argument that it doesn't actually affect many people? >> inheritance tax? think >> inheritance tax? i think people it will people have a perception it will affect doesn't. affect them, but it doesn't. that's doesn't. that's right, it doesn't. >> does >> but the people it does affect, affects affect, it affects quite seriously about the freezing seriously how about the freezing of tax rate bands? >> again frozen >> should they be again frozen in fiscal drags? a massive problem. >> it's a huge problem. and the
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reason it's there is because reason why it's there is because the obviously things the obr obviously scores things and you know, and says, well, look, you know, you . the economy isn't you can't. the economy isn't growing. fundamental growing. that's the fundamental problem. order to raise problem. and in order to raise tax it's easy to do it tax revenue, it's easy to do it in a stealth tax way and simply just freezing the bands. >> should they be unfrozen. >> should they be unfrozen. >> and i think you've got to look mean, if you look at that. i mean, if you look at that. i mean, if you look in which the 40% look at the way in which the 40% rate introduced all those rate was introduced all those years was top rate years ago, that was a top rate of you know, people who of tax. you know, people who are paying of tax. you know, people who are paying 40% were a very small proportion earners today proportion of wage earners today . so many people are brought into that tax bracket. and clearly the more you if inflation is running very high and you stick to those tax bands that that level will more and more people are going to pay more people are going to pay more tax. >> what do you make of reports that the tories should bring back boris? >> well, i think a way, and >> well, i think in a way, and i've been boris fan i've always been a big boris fan because campaign because i've seen him campaign so many times, so effectively. i mean, the mayoralty mean, he won the mayoralty twice. won the twice. he won brexit, he won the tory leadership that tory leadership, he won that general and people general election and people could say there were lots of other there other factors. of course there were. had a very good were. but he had a very good success an electoral force.
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success as an electoral force. and i think saying, oh, well, he should back is a sign that, should come back is a sign that, you know, things are very difficult. >> but do you think rishi should call him? that's suggestion call him? that's the suggestion in telegraph that in the sunday telegraph that johnson's a phone johnson's waiting for a phone call said he's call because you said that he's not at reaching out. not very good at reaching out. >> if you want >> my view is if you want somebody help should somebody help you should reach out that's what out to them. yes. that's what you yes. if you were you would do? yes. if you were in difficult and you in a difficult spot and you wanted a to help you or wanted a friend to help you or somebody to help you, yeah. you would probably the phone would probably pick up the phone or he needs. well, or admit that he needs. well, there's nemesis. there's all of that ego nemesis. >> of that ego and nonsense. >> you to be realistic. >> but you have to be realistic. you know, we're 20 points behind and the haven't really and the polls haven't really moved in the last year. yeah. so it's not time simply to more, more, you know, more of the same. no. something has to change for us to have a chance of winning. and if that means swallowing some pride and suppressing a bit of ego and reaching out to someone who's approved. campaigner. yeah, then he do that. he should do that. >> all right. thank you very much indeed. kwasi kwarteng, for joining lovely joining us this morning. lovely to you
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people on the hard left hated tony blair because he wasn't left enough. but tony blair had three times terms in the . office three times terms in the. office >> welcome back to the camilla tominey show. still lots more to come in. a minute. i'm come in. just a minute. i'm going be joined by shadow going to be joined by the shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, mcfadden. be lancaster, pat mcfadden. i'll be asking him whether labour has scored goal its scored an own goal with its u—turn jobs. be u—turn on green jobs. i'll be asking michael gove levelling up secretary, reportedly secretary, why he's reportedly fallen his former fallen out with his former protege kemi badenoch. also protege kemi badenoch. i'll also be joined by sir simon mayall, the former deputy of the chief of the defence staff, who will tell us he thinks joe tell us whether he thinks joe biden is fit to be us president. queen elizabeth ii's former press secretary, andersson, press secretary, elsa andersson, will join to discuss all will also join me to discuss all things royal following the king's diagnosis , and king's cancer diagnosis, and we'll get the verdict live from our panel in our people's panel in manchester. but first of all, i'm joined by shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, pat mcfadden mp for
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mcfadden, and the labour mp for wolverhampton south east, mr mcfadden. lovely to see you this morning. um, the u—turn on the green prosperity plan comes after a great deal of flip flopping. i mean, i could go through the list, but we've had all sorts of u—turns from sir keir starmer. is he all sorts of u—turns from sir keir starmer . is he indecisive all sorts of u—turns from sir keir starmer. is he indecisive ? keir starmer. is he indecisive? incompetent? why can't he stick to labour's plan? mr mcfadden ? to labour's plan? mr mcfadden? well we announced this plan two and a half years ago at a time when interest rates were are only 0.1, basically zero. >> they're . now 5.25. and any of >> they're. now 5.25. and any of your viewers who've had to remortgage in the last year or so will know that that makes a huge difference to the cost of borrowing. and for the country, it means that the cost of borrowing is now £70 billion a year higher than when the plan was first announced. and as you approach the election as you're writing your manifesto, we're going to have an election this
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yeah going to have an election this year. it's really important to look at everything you've said in the past years and ask in the past few years and ask yourself the question, does that fit with the economic circumstances of today or the ones two and a half years ago ? ones two and a half years ago? >> but he's flip flopped on so much, hasn't he? i mean, we've got flip flopping on nationalising , utilities, nationalising, utilities, outsourcing in the nhs, flip flopping on the support of trade unions, free movement, abolishing universal credit bit, supporting jeremy corbyn, then not supporting jeremy corbyn, abolishing tuition fees, universal child care, rent controls, the ulez expansion . i controls, the ulez expansion. i mean, it's too many to mention . mean, it's too many to mention. so the only conclusion that gb news viewers and listeners can draw is that he simply doesn't have a plan , or at least not one have a plan, or at least not one he can stick to . he can stick to. >> well, i think you're reading out a tory talking points there about not having actually in political even after the change, even after the change that we announced a few days ago, we're
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still going to have gb energy, a publicly owned energy firm that will help drive the transition to clean power . will help drive the transition to clean power. we're will help drive the transition to clean power . we're still to clean power. we're still going to have a national wealth fund to invest in things like making sure the country's got a steel industry in the future. we're going to have investment in our ports . we're going to in our ports. we're going to have a plan to insulate more homes. we're going to have local power plans. there's still a lot in this plan that will create jobs , give us more energy jobs, give us more energy security and be a good plan for the country. i'm sorry, i'm having bit of earpiece having a bit of earpiece problems here, but i'll do my best. >> mr mcfadden. hopefully you can let me ask can still hear me. let me ask you the labour candidate you about the labour candidate in rochdale , azhar ali. now he's in rochdale, azhar ali. now he's had to apologise for making , i had to apologise for making, i would say, some extremely offensive remarks. he said that israel let its people be killed so it could invade gaza . he's so it could invade gaza. he's a labour candidate in rochdale . labour candidate in rochdale. you can't make comments like that and expect to run for office, can you? he shouldn't be a labour candidate , should he ?
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a labour candidate, should he? >> look, his comments were completely wrong and they don't represent labour's views. don't represent labour's views. don't represent my views. keir starmer's views, he has apologised and retracted . i apologised and retracted. i think it's right that he does so . i think it's right that he does so .i hope think it's right that he does so . i hope he learns from this and those views were completely wrong. they should never have said something like that. is it appropriate he's still appropriate that he's still a candidate if his views are that wrong? >> i appreciate an apology, but what else does this man believe? there's also a piece the there's also a piece in the jewish chronicle this morning suggesting he has given suggesting that he has given funding to an extremist mosque . funding to an extremist mosque. >> well , i funding to an extremist mosque. >> well, i haven't seen that report, but he's completely apologised for those remarks . apologised for those remarks. and as i said, it's quite right that he does so because they were completely wrong. he's retracted them , and it's right retracted them, and it's right that he does that to . that he does that to. >> can i ask you a question about tony blair, who i knew you once very closely with? once worked very closely with? mr . there's a mr mcfadden. there's a suggestion the sunday times suggestion in the sunday times today he's heavily involved today that he's heavily involved in labour's operation . just how in labour's operation. just how involved is tony blair? well,
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i'm not aware that he is. >> i mean , i think he spends >> i mean, i think he spends a lot of time in the middle east these days. so uh, i don't know that that's true . i read all that that's true. i read all sorts of reports about who's involved in what and who's up and who's down, and i don't recognise most of them, to be honest. what we are doing is getting on with the job. uh, we've got an election coming up . we've got an election coming up. we want to make sure that our manifesto is fit and if we manifesto is fit and ready if we have to make some changes to things we've said to make things that we've said to make that case, do that. that the case, we'll do that. that's exercise of leadership that's an exercise of leadership . it's a sign of strength that we do that. and when we go to the whenever the prime the people, whenever the prime minister's got the courage to actually call an election, we want a manifesto that gives people hope and that everything in it can be delivered . and in it can be delivered. and that's what we're going to do. what prime will what kind of prime minister will keir starmer be? >> because i'm a bit confused. is having is he a corbynista? having supported jeremy corbyn for all those years , or is he actually those years, or is he actually a blairite ? because there seems to
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blairite? because there seems to be confusion in the party as well. got on one hand well. we've got on one hand people saying that he's not left wing enough, on the that wing enough, on the other that he's who is he's too right wing. who is this guy mcfadden ? guy? mr mcfadden? >> he's his own man, is the answer. uh camilla, i've got to push back a wee bit on your stuff about u—turns . this prime stuff about u—turns. this prime minister we've got is a walking , minister we've got is a walking, living u—turn. he's only there because the tories had to u—turn on a disastrous budget. it's the only reason he's prime minister they didn't even vote for him. he's person version he's the person version of u—turn . well, let's talk about u—turn. well, let's talk about another u—turn. >> abolishing. abolishing the house of lords was something that sir keir starmer announced some years ago. apparently you don't want to do anymore . don't want to do that anymore. maybe to limit the maybe you just want to limit the number of hereditary peers. so that's a major u—turn, isn't it, for labour? >> well, look, let's see what the manifesto has got to say about that . about that. >> oh, are you going to abolish the house of lords then? >> but we haven't published our manifesto. and when the prime minister eventually works up the
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courage to stop hiding from the election, that's got to come . election, that's got to come. we'll publish our manifesto and they'll be definitely something about the house of lords in that. >> but would you like to see the house of lords abolished? mr mcfadden, what's your personal opinion ? opinion? >> i'm really sorry about the earpiece. >> don't worry . you're looking great. >> the house of lords is in defensible in its current form. it has to be changed, and we'll set out the plans for doing that in our manifesto. when the prime minister eventually he calls an election . election. >> final question, mr mcfadden . >> final question, mr mcfadden. and thank you for bearing with that earpiece. been that that earpiece. i've been in that position where the position myself. where the earpiece has come out. do earpiece has come out. um, do you think was a mistake for you think it was a mistake for keir starmer to politicise the tragic murder of brianna ghey ? i tragic murder of brianna ghey? i mean, he wasn't meant to refer to somebody in the gallery. it's clearly stipulated in erskine may that's a no no. why did may that that's a no no. why did he do that? no . i don't think he do that? no. i don't think you're somebody that is right. >> i don't think that's what keir starmer did. i think the big lesson from that prime
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minister's questions exchange last week is that when the prime minister throws a shot like that across the despatch box, you've got to remember this debate has real people and real lives at the heart of it . and i think the heart of it. and i think thatis the heart of it. and i think that is the big lesson from last week. okay >> pat mcfadden, thank you for beanng >> pat mcfadden, thank you for bearing with your earpiece and for us this morning. it's been really great speak to you. really great to speak to you. thank very much .
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welcome back to the camilla tominey show on gb news delighted to have your company this morning. now i'm joined in the by sir simon male, the studio by sir simon male, the studio by sir simon male, the former deputy chief of the defence staff. lovely to see you this simon. this morning, sir simon. thank you me . can we start you forjoining me. can we start with biden?
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with joe biden? >> yes , yes we must. >> yes, yes we must. >> i mean , this report basically >> i mean, this report basically says that he's not fit to stand trial, which begs the question, why he fit to stand as why is he then fit to stand as president another time ? president for another time? >> think a lot of >> well, i think a lot of americans are asking that, i americans are asking that, and i wouldn't to get involved in wouldn't want to get involved in discussions about another nation's election. but, you know, the president of the united states, commander in chief force chief of the most powerful force on earth, the backbone of nato , on earth, the backbone of nato, it matters hugely to friends of america, who's leading there? >> i mean, are you convinced he's got all of his mental faculties? i mean, obviously we've seen the gaffes. we've seen physically trip up, um , seen him physically trip up, um, he's getting very confused. last week he gives this press conference to justify that he's in the right mind and then confuses mexico and egypt, i think. >> well, it's not encouraging . i >> well, it's not encouraging. i mean, you know, the reality is the depth of the institutional strength of america huge. you strength of america is huge. you know, , fbi, the military , know, cia, fbi, the military, etc. so there are vast there's a vast bureaucracy that's supporting it. but in the current crisis , i say global
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current crisis, i say global crisis with china , with iran, crisis with china, with iran, with the red sea, with what's going on. obviously in gaza , going on. obviously in gaza, with russia, ukraine, energy , with russia, ukraine, energy, etc. you do look occasionally to leaders to give you that sense of stability that i'm in charge. i know what it's going, what's going on? i'm a senior senior person and i'm in control. and so it is worrying. and i think, you know, if you look at tucker carlson's, interview carlson's, you know, interview with hardly say putin with putin, i hardly say putin came us. came over us. >> what did you make of that? then mean, basically then i mean, he's basically blaming for blaming the poles for the invasion by hitler. um, he he's giving this narrative . he's giving this narrative. he's rewriting russian history over the course of an hour and a half. it looked like tucker carlson was about to off carlson was about to nod off at one point. mean, this man one point. i mean, is this man unhinged? dangerous is he? unhinged? how dangerous is he? >> also, again, one >> well, he also, again, one does worry about quality of does worry about the quality of leadership there's leadership in russia. there's a man who's put himself under huge pressure by the aggression against ukraine. um, clearly he's not a well man. i don't think you know tucker carlson did any of us any favours. he allowed putin to spout off this
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sort of mythology that is still very powerful in, in, in russia about, you know, grievance and entitlement and, and of course , entitlement and, and of course, what putin got out of it was carlson saying, you know , being carlson saying, you know, being used as a stooge to say to the west, you know, give up on ukraine. yes. russia is not going to give up. why are you wasting your time? and so you combine the two and you get a little unsettled. >> we've about >> but then we've talked about biden the prospect of a trump biden is the prospect of a trump presidency worrying because presidency also worrying because of approach to putin? of his approach to putin? i mean, very closely aligned mean, he's very closely aligned with there of with tucker carlson. there of the sort of vein. the next the same sort of vein. the next thing we know, we could see the leader free world saying leader of the free world saying to putin, we'll have half of ukraine. to putin, we'll have half of ukrwell, he's quoted at >> well, he's he's quoted at a rally, i can't remember where it was of telling the story about saying a european leader who saying to a european leader who said, know, how dare you? said, you know, how dare you? almost with threatened the withdrawal of american support for nato. and he quite rightly said, if you don't pay up, you're delinquent. and if you're delinquent , you're delinquent. and if you're delinquent, i will go on you're delinquent. and if you're delinquent , i will go on record delinquent, i will go on record to say the equivalent of i will tell putin to take whatever he
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wants, and you've got it coming to pay up and of to you. yeah, pay up and of course, you know, we've heard this message all the way back from and earlier from obama and probably earlier that are not that the europeans are not pulling in order pulling their weight in order to, to justify american taxpayers support. it's very fair . but you taxpayers support. it's very fair. but you rather taxpayers support. it's very fair . but you rather hope wiser fair. but you rather hope wiser minds in america will say, actually, our security is vitally important to american security. >> you, mr gove, lovely to see you this morning. hi camilla. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> hello. good morning . how much >> hello. good morning. how much of a role do you think immigration has played in the lack of housing available to younger people ? i know that this younger people? i know that this is a big bugbear of yours. you're about the fact you're talking about the fact that young can that not enough young adults can get on the homeownership ladder. there's an interesting graph, actually, in the ft talking about how home ownership, particularly among young adults, has completely tanked since 2005. but surely the government must admit that these high levels of immigration have had an enormous impact. >> yes , that's right, and >> yes, that's right, and earlier this week i was to
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talking a house of lords committee about it, and i made the point that, um, uh , we are the point that, um, uh, we are currently seeking to deliver 300,000 homes a year. we've delivered 2.5 million since 2010, but obviously with new people arriving , that puts people arriving, that puts pressure on housing stock . so pressure on housing stock. so that's why it's so important that's why it's so important that we get a handle on both legal and illegal migration as well. yeah, absolutely. >> but then you say it's important to get a handle on it. i mean, obviously this migration figure up exponentially figure has gone up exponentially on the tories. watch equally you haven't built enough homes. so it's your fault really . it's your fault really. >> well, i don't run away from responsibility. yeah. so if you if you want to look at migration figures, um, i think that, uh, a significant increase has come about as a result of coming from ukraine and hong kong, who are fleeing persecution, whom we want to welcome . but it is also want to welcome. but it is also the case that we've had , whether the case that we've had, whether it's through the student route or other routes, people exploiting the system in a way that requires tightening of the
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rules . and those rules have now rules. and those rules have now been tightened. um, and, uh, and, and, you know, as a way of deaung and, and, you know, as a way of dealing with the migration issue, there's a contrast between the government who have a plan, labour, who've got no plan and would have an open borders policy then on housing itself . we've we've secured itself. we've we've secured we've helped deliver 2.5 million new homes since 2010. i know, but you've still missed the 300,000 target, haven't you? >> i mean, you keep on missing this 300,000 target, but i'd look at the figures and i think many people listening and watching to this will look at the and actually the figures and actually say 300,000, keep 300,000, which you keep on missing isn't high enough. should probably be half a million homes a year. shouldn't it? >> well, there's debate about whether or not 300,000 is enough. all i would say is, is two things. briefly the first is that since in the last three decades, the four years where we've delivered the most homes have been since 2019. so the longer the conservatives have been in, the more homes that we've delivered. in essence, the
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second thing is, is that good enough ? no, it's not yet good enough? no, it's not yet good enough. but uh, i think any judgement has to be a judgement in the round. and i think the, the judgement i would make is, um , uh, measured success so far, um, uh, measured success so far, but a need for even greater ambition and we have that ambition and we have that ambition because we have a plan laura beddow. okay >> should, should should you go back to the pledge that david cameron made when you were a minister under his administration of migration, being the tens of thousands ? being in the tens of thousands? >> well, i think we should definitely bring it down, but, um, i, i wouldn't well, again , um, i, i wouldn't well, again, when, uh, the prime minister, the home secretary have already made it clear that we want to reduce, um, uh, legal and illegal migration, but i wouldn't put a figure on it. now because i think it's important that it's the prime minister and the home secretary that decreed that. >> but this housing crisis , i >> but this housing crisis, i mean, forgive me if you feel this is too personal, but this is affecting you , surely, is affecting you, surely, because i read in the telegraph in week you're staying at in the week you're staying at
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david foreign david cameron, the foreign secretary's favour secretary's grace and favour home in london. so are you struggling to get on housing struggling to get on the housing ladderin struggling to get on the housing ladder in london? >> security reasons >> there are security reasons behind that that i won't go into now. >> all right. okay but you can appreciate the problem . appreciate the problem. >> oh, yeah. gosh. and i've got, uh, two children who are , uh, 20 uh, two children who are, uh, 20 and, uh, 19. um, they're both students, but, um, i see every day the, uh, the challenges that they face as a result of rental costs in manchester and in cardiff, so absolute. but but even if i wasn't directly , even if i wasn't directly, personally affected anyone in my job, looking at the situation that we face would want to help. and again, one of the things that i would say is that there's, uh, been a determined effort on our part to look at every way in which we can increase new homes. last year, we introduced legislation to try to unlock housing where it had been blocked by environmental red would have red tape. um, it would have unlocked 100,000 new homes, but labour voted against it. >> so you have had tories in
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your own being very nimby. your own party being very nimby. you you had you know, you had theresa villiers others saying that villiers and others saying that they wanted you to scrap the 300,000 so the tories 300,000 target. so the tories aren't, you know , haven't really aren't, you know, haven't really got their powder dry when it comes to arguments about whether you more housing. you should build more housing. you've simon on you've got simon clarke on one side theresa villiers on another. >> think with respect to, uh, >> i think with respect to, uh, the 300,000 target, i don't think there's anyone who's in the conservative party who's argued that that's wrong. there are there will always be individual mps with constituency interests that will want to make sure that housing is sure that new housing is delivered sensitively, and whether the or whether the labour or conservative, that is totally legitimate. but there's a difference party difference between a party saying that its policy is pro builder, not blocker . and then builder, not blocker. and then when we bring things forward, every single conservative mp every single conservative mp every single conservative mp every single conservative i know backed our proposals for new homes and, uh, labour were whipped to a man and woman against it. so this is not about individuals. this is about a party that makes a big claims. and yet as we see time after
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time, it turns turtle . and time, it turns turtle. and that's why keir starmer is about an individual british politics. he's transparent , spineless, he's transparent, spineless, swept along by the tide. >> all right. we've heard the jellyfish line before. let's talk about an individual. an individual. you know very, very well boris johnson. there's calls in this morning's papers to bring back boris. what do you say to that, michael gove? i think every conservative should be as part of the big conservative family doing all we can in order to make sure that rishi is, uh, re—elected as prime minister. >> okay. i think i think boris has got enormous gifts and i would hope that boris would play a role along with every conservative, um, in the electoral fight ahead. but boris is , you know, it's up to him. is, you know, it's up to him. he's already done great service to this country. and um, you know, that has to be respected as well. >> well, he said he wants the prime minister to give him a call. so rishi sunak should pick up week, up the phone this week, shouldn't he? >> maybe he they
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>> well, um, maybe he they should go for drink should even go for a drink together. don't but together. i don't know, but whatever have. whatever they have. >> a drink with >> you been for a drink with bons >> you been for a drink with boris lately, mr gove? boris johnson lately, mr gove? >> not in the two weeks, >> not in the last two weeks, no. but in the last two no. um. but in the last two years. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> have you? but are you back on good terms with mr johnson >> have you? but are you back on good terms with mrjohnson ? good terms with mr johnson? >> well, again. well done. my friend kemi badenoch was on this programme , i think, the other programme, i think, the other day she made the point that people are not interested in tittle tattle about politics. the opera sometimes of the soap opera is sometimes of interest to some, but the main thing that people are interested in are our politicians doing their job effectively. are they delivering ? and i think the delivering? and i think the prime minister is delivering in helping to reduce taxes, helping to lower inflation. >> okay. we don't need a party political broadcast. gove, political broadcast. mr gove, thank you. you mentioned kemi badenoch there. and by the way, i'm honoured that you watched this you tune in this show and that you tune in and you saw her great performance in the seat next to me. am though. me. i am intrigued though. >> you . >> gb news you. >> gb news you. >> very thank you. >> you're very kind. thank you. michael gove did something that was very, very annoying. she
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told the times this week. what did you do that was very, very annoying. >> well, again , there are a >> well, again, there are a number of, uh, things that, uh, occurin number of, uh, things that, uh, occur in politics where as an individual , occur in politics where as an individual, uh, as you put forward your policy proposals, you don't always necessarily put them forward in a way that carries everyone with you. but the important thing hs2 proposal did she not like from you ? the did she not like from you? the important thing is that away from the soap opera kemi is doing an amazing job. she has secured membership of the world's biggest free trade. are you telling us what's happened? >> what's what? answer the question, mr gove. why did she. why did you annoy her? come on, fess up. what happened ? fess up. what happened? >> um. uh come on. i know all sorts of people all of the time. if i ran through all of the ways in which i'm annoying, then i'd be here until the end of be on here until the end of nigel farage show on thursday . nigel farage show on thursday. so my list of irritating qualities is there for all to see. but the one thing that i am keen on is making sure that all
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of us, as conservatives, recognise that when you've got a really talented minister like kemi who is delivering for people in port talbot by supporting the steel sector, delivering for people in sunderland nissan's sunderland by backing nissan's expansion , securing, uh, our expansion, securing, uh, our membership of a new trade bloc and also making sure that on key issues like protecting women's spaces and protecting children, that the equalities legislation is fit for purpose. she is doing a bang up job and she's actually on the very cabinet who, you know, like laura trott, claire coutinho, richard holden and mr gove are brilliant . um, uh, next gove are brilliant. um, uh, next generation leaders . generation leaders. >> but very, very quickly i was going to ask you for your view on park run because i know you're a runner. should they have scrapped all the records? yes or no? you've seen the story, doubt. they scrapped story, no doubt. they scrapped the want the records because they want transgender people to be included in the records. and women an women have said that's an outrage. the park run? outrage. remember, the park run? people those events people that run those events through the through parks across the uk, should have scrapped
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should they have scrapped women's records? yes or no? do you goh, i don't know you think, mr goh, i don't know the story, but the one thing so . the story, but the one thing so. >> but the one thing that i would say is it is absolutely, vitally important that women's sport remains as, um, an arena where women and girls can compete and can feel safe . um, compete and can feel safe. um, and whether that's in the, uh, the changing room or on the sports field and, uh, i talked to a couple of sporting bodies about the importance of that . about the importance of that. >> mr gove, it's been a delight to speak to you this morning. thank you very much for your time. and thank you for tuning in and no doubt in to gb news and no doubt you'll watching the people's you'll be watching the people's forum minister forum with the prime minister tomorrow. forum with the prime minister tomorrowi will, and good luck >> yeah, i will, and good luck with the camilla. it's with the show. camilla. it's been you been a big success since you took thank you very much. took over. thank you very much. >> take care. thank you. um, well, there have it. you well, there you have it. you know, watch this know, ministers do watch this show it
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i >> -- >>a >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. good evening. i'm jonathan vautrey. here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. the next few days, the theme really is spells and showers is clear spells and showers around and we have really around and we have that really as we end as well. as we end sunday as well. showers pushing their way in from frequent for from the west quite frequent for some western districts . some some western districts. some clearer further clearer spells though further towards east a much towards the east and a much dner towards the east and a much drier overall though for drier night overall though for the here in the far northeast here in shetland it is going to be a much one, with that band much wetter one, with that band of rain sweeping through underneath those clear underneath some of those clear spells, though, temperatures will low. will just drop off a bit low. single for many of us,
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single figures for many of us, and is possible. and a patchy frost is possible. first on morning. first thing on monday morning. maybe as well maybe some icy stretches as well where have showers where we do have those showers around, continue to see around, we will continue to see those pushing their those showers pushing their way in. be most frequent in. they will be most frequent and heaviest for northwestern areas. blustery winds areas. some quite blustery winds around also, but around here at times also, but generally east and generally further east and south. more likely south. you're more likely to stay with stay dry throughout the day with a decent number of spells a decent number of sunny spells in a relatively in there as well. a relatively pleasant start to the new week. temperatures around 6 to 11 c is pretty much where we would expect to be for this time expect them to be for this time in tuesday, got an in the year. on tuesday, got an area of low pressure just to the north that will again bring some very breezy, blustery showers for a ridge of for scotland, but a ridge of high allows high pressure allows for a dnen high pressure allows for a drier, start for much of drier, finer start for much of northern england northern ireland, england and wales, spells wales, with some sunny spells once we will start to once again, but we will start to see cloud thickening from see the cloud thickening up from the outbreaks the southwest with outbreaks of rain arriving, rain eventually arriving, turning as well. but in turning breezier as well. but in amongst all of this we have milder air sweeping its way in, so temperatures will be on the rise as we head towards the middle week, seeing middle part of the week, seeing mid—teens for some of us as we head wednesday. enjoy head towards wednesday. enjoy the rest of your evening by.
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>> you're watching and listening to gb news with me, sam francis. it's just gone 7:00 and we start this hour with the latest news in the hamas—israel conflict. in a call this evening, in the hamas—israel conflict. in a call this evening , the us a call this evening, the us president has urged the israeli prime minister to halt his planned invasion of the gaza
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city of rafah. joe biden said that it shouldn't go ahead without a credible plan in place to protect the 1 million people seeking shelter there. it follows biden's recent comment that israel's response in gaza is, he said, over the top . is, he said, over the top. meanwhile, here in the uk, the government is also warning that there could be catastrophic consequences for civilians if an assault on rafah goes ahead. however, the israeli prime minister has told reporters today that enough of the 132 remaining hostages are alive to warrant a ground offensive live well, earlier tanks and bulldozers you can see there if you're watching on tv, were seen on operating along the israel gaza border. and that comes after at least 44 people, including several children, died yesterday . in what the yesterday. in what the palestinians claim was an israeli air strike here in the uk. the family of murdered teenager brianna ghey have today been holding a vigil to mark the first anniversary of her death . first anniversary of her death. earlier, i spoke to our north—west of england reporter,

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