and listeners prepare to viewers and listeners prepare to ask the pm a question. >> any question . there's big >> any question. there's big jeopardy for the pm, but also opportunity . opportunity. >> and is the army , to quote the >> and is the army, to quote the defence secretary, grant shapps says the military needs a proper shake up to refocus its core mission of being a lethal fighting force. king of vaccination. >> in his first statement since being diagnosed with cancer, charles was seen yesterday alongside his wife queen camilla. there he is attending church in sandringham. i thought we weren't going to see him then and more trouble for the rwanda bill today. >> of course, there is questions over human obligations as over human rights obligations as it returns to the house of lords so >> so what do you want to talk to us about? there's lots to get stuck into this monday morning. email us. you've used gb views

at gb news. com for. so let's bnng at gb news. com for. so let's bring you bang up to date with all the latest headlines. here's tatiana . pip. tatiana. pip. >> thank you. your top stories from the gb newsroom israeli forces freed two hostages overnight during a raid in rafah in southern gaza . the israel in southern gaza. the israel defence forces says louis hare and fernando simon marmion are in good medical condition and are in hospital for tests . there are in hospital for tests. there have been reports of heavy air strikes in rafah. the hamas run health ministry in gaza says 67 palestinians were killed . palestinians were killed. benjamin netanyahu says sustained military pressure on gaza will continue until total victory over hamas is achieved . victory over hamas is achieved. in a call last night, the us president urged netanyahu to halt his planned ground invasion . the prime minister's rwanda bill returns to the house of lords today, as mps say the asylum law is fundamentally flawed. pass joint committee on

human rights said the bill risks untold damage to the uk's reputation when it comes to human rights. the house of lords will vote on a series of amendments today designed to weaken rishi sunak legislation to deport asylum seekers. however, it's been widely criticised by mps and peers who say the east african nation is not a safe country . fraud not a safe country. fraud offences have risen sharply in the uk, accounting for 40% of all crimes . the government, all crimes. the government, therefore, is launching a fraud campaign called think fraud , campaign called think fraud, aiming to help people protect themselves . there were 3.3 themselves. there were 3.3 million offences in the year ending june last year, according to ons crime figures for england and wales . to ons crime figures for england and wales. labour is accusing the conservatives of being at fault for the almost eightfold increase of cases , and i in increase of cases, and i in 5 nhs jobs are now filled by non—uk nationals , new nhs data non—uk nationals, new nhs data shows . a third of doctors and shows. a third of doctors and 3 in 10 nurses working in the health service come from

overseas. the highest proportion since records began . the overall since records began. the overall figure for nhs england in september last year was at 20.4, up from i3% in 2016. mean september last year was at 20.4, up from 13% in 2016. mean health bosses say it reflects how the nhs depends on its talented international workforce, but warns overseas recruitment could not fill all vacancies forever . not fill all vacancies forever. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. comment alerts . to gb news. comment alerts. >> well , good to gb news. comment alerts. >> well, good morning and welcome to business news here on gb news with me, andrew pierce and pip tomson >> in the first big election event of the year at 8:00 tonight, gb news is hosting a special people's forum with the prime minister himself, sir rishi sunak will join our very own stephen dixon and take questions from you in our audience on everything the audience on everything from the nhs, and immigration.

>> us now political >> join us now is our political editor christopher hope. >> join us now is our political edi'a' christopher hope. >> join us now is our political edi'a very ristopher hope. >> join us now is our political edi'a very good her hope. >> join us now is our political edi'a very good morning. >> join us now is our political edi'a very good morning to you, >> a very good morning to you, christopher . uh, it looks pretty christopher. uh, it looks pretty cold there up in the northeast. how frosty will or will or will not the reception be for the prime minister? there >> well, we don't know. do we, andrew? and morning to you here from county durham. we don't know what the questions will will the pm filmed will be. the pm filmed a promotional clip for gb news in which he asked for questions on the economy, immigration, the nhs and anything else. and i think that's the that's the risk the pm has got will have viewers . lining up behind microphones to ask the pm anything they want. live on gb news from 8 pm. tonight. the general p.m. tonight. the general election campaign does feel like it's starting in earnest. it's risky for number 10 to do it because of course anything can happen, but i think they feel they can take risk. they're they can take that risk. they're 20 in polls 20 points behind in the polls in a if can get that a sense. if they can get that kind relax rishi sunak that kind of relax rishi sunak that some us are lucky enough to some of us are lucky enough to see closed doors when see behind closed doors when he's on camera almost in

he's not on camera and almost in a, of battle with a, in a kind of a battle with a journalist relaxed sunak journalist that relaxed sunak might win some voters over. that's that's the that's the that's what the opportunity they're taking at number risk number 10. but there's risk attached he could come attached because he could come undone i mean, may want undone. i mean, viewers may want to , why does the pm to ask, why does the pm apparently pay 20% tax when is a millionaire? i mean, that's what i would ask. certainly after the disclosure of his tax affairs late on friday night. disclosure of his tax affairs late on friday night . and he late on friday night. and he hasn't answered the question yet on . all of issues on that. so all sorts of issues might come and that's what might come up. and that's what might happen tonight on gb news. so tune in. so do tune in. >> well that's christopher hope. and don't forget to tune in 8:00 tonight and we'll be it'd be extraordinary in the studio with us. piers pottinger piers pottinger who ran europe's largest public affairs company and advised countless prime ministers, mrs. ministers, including mrs. thatcher. she was remarkable performer in in the at the despatch box and always heard her own. but she could be quite tncky her own. but she could be quite tricky in some of these situations. um, piers, what would be your advice to rishi? well what margaret did was not put herself in situations where she was going to lose, um , she

she was going to lose, um, she was an inspiring speaker and she was an inspiring speaker and she was marvellous at connecting with the people on her terms. >> the trouble with rishi is i think he still believes he connects with the people, and it's quite clear he doesn't . is it's quite clear he doesn't. is he foolhardy or . brave to do he foolhardy or. brave to do this tonight? i think it's a bit of both. i think it's high risk and i doubt he's going to come out of it terribly well. in my view, it's not rishi sunak, it's rishi. soon because i'm rishi. soon gone because i'm afraid to say every three ministry is seems to be a mess. nothing is getting done that needs to be getting done . it's needs to be getting done. it's very hard for him to list other than brexit, which he wasn't actually really involved in. um, to list any major achievement of the conservatives over the last 13 years. i mean , labour have 13 years. i mean, labour have got plenty to work with. he's also got a very bad week coming up with the by elections. i fear

. and then in a month's time, his last budget or jeremy hunt's last budget , which, having been last budget, which, having been talked up as an opportunity to do lots of populist tax cuts, is now being talked down by jeremy hunt, saying he hasn't got enough room. now, if it's going to be a damp squib budget. enough room. now, if it's going to be a damp squib budget . and to be a damp squib budget. and also they've got the mayoral election in london, which could have been a great opportunity to unseat the labour mayor sadiq khan, which they're not taking because they've put in a useless candidate without any real support sought. and i suspect and fear sadiq will win. so so the horizons are looking very grim and gloomy for rishi. i think , in his favour because. think, in his favour because. >> because obviously you're very clear on where you stand on this pitch. yes. in his favour. at least. he is now getting out. he is talking to your average person on the street. i actually don't think he's too bad at doing that. i think when he is talking to people, i think he's

not a bad communicator. he's spending three days a week now. we understand on the campaign trail that's not a bad thing. being up close and personal with the public. >> the problem is actually, i don't see how a minister don't see how a prime minister can spend three days a week on the campaign trail. it doesn't make . the point is, it's make sense. the point is, it's not just domestic , it's not just domestic, it's internationally. i mean , rishi internationally. i mean, rishi is not an international statesman when he's not a recognised international figure. there was some stuff over the weekend. i read about how how so many people had no idea who rishi sunak was internationally . rishi sunak was internationally. now, even david cameron and even theresa may, people knew who, who, who they were internationally , partly because internationally, partly because he has become prime minister really through through the back doonif really through through the back door, if you like. >> so there was never going to be. yeah a wealth of publicity surrounding him . surrounding him. >> certainly that's true. but look in in world terms we're in critical situation . we've got critical situation. we've got wars going on around the world. we have very unsettled political

situations in many countries, especially in the united states of america . the, uh, and here's of america. the, uh, and here's an opportunity for a western leader to shine. and rishi, i'm afraid to say, hasn't really done that. so on. and also, when things are bad domestically , things are bad domestically, it's an old ploy for a leader to try and do stuff on the international stage , which he international stage, which he hasn't taken that up well. >> and of course, he's sort of given that all to david cameron to do it. of course. yes and cameron is a natural. cameron i had big issues with cameron's premiership, but he always looked sounded the part, looked and sounded the part, didn't looked and sounded the part, did yes. also he's keen not >> yes. and also he's keen not to overshadow rishi and he's very, very conscious of that, i'm sure. but yes , i mean, look, i'm sure. but yes, i mean, look, i'm sure. but yes, i mean, look, i admire him for doing this tonight. i think he's going to find it appalling in terms of the level of intense questioning . i suspect the good people of the north east will come up with and also, the thing is, how is he going to win? what's what can

he going to win? what's what can he say? you know, he hasn't got anything to say. and for the rest of his terms, as it is at the moment, he's got very little time to achieve anything . time to achieve anything. >> and he's if they talk about immigration, rwanda is the big policy. it's back in the house of lords this week. it's going to be savaged within an incomplete life . there's a incomplete life. there's a select committee out select committee report out today won't work. it's today saying it won't work. it's all though. all he's got though. >> mean, the problem is stick >> i mean, the problem is stick with yeah. when the with it. yeah. when the government tries to do anything, they stymied by, first of they are stymied by, first of all, cabal of left wing all, the cabal of left wing civil servants in whitehall who love to stir things up as they did over defence at the weekend. and um, the second thing is he hasn't got the ability dodi and time to deliver any major policies and the lords, including our great friend, the archbishop of canterbury , are archbishop of canterbury, are going to stop the rwanda bill or delay it long enough for it to fizzle out, which is what i fear will happen. and even though, um, keir starmer doesn't seem to

have any policies , um, they or have any policies, um, they or if he does, he drops them his last big one last week. yeah i mean, on tuesday he said yes 28 billion for the green economy . billion for the green economy. and two days later they've scrapped it . i and two days later they've scrapped it. i mean that and two days later they've scrapped it . i mean that shows scrapped it. i mean that shows you that which is really worrying what we're up what could come the only you know, this is an election win for starmer to lose coming up. and i think the election will be sooner rather than later because everyone so many backbench mps are saying we've given up , the are saying we've given up, the game is over. >> do you think because i've got money on it being may or june, i money on it being may orjune, i think be may or june. think it will be may or june. >> i think now >> i agree, yes, i think now because soldiering on as a lame duck prime minister is not a very healthy thing. and to be fair to rishi, who's an intelligent , decent person, intelligent, decent person, i think he will realise there's no point, uh, hanging on for the good of the country . i think he good of the country. i think he will have to call an election sooner rather than later.

>> maybe it depends on on what happens with this rwanda bill as to the timing of the election and the things we saw. >> 128 people crossed the channel weekend. he channel at the weekend. if he goes, if rwanda thing is goes, if the rwanda thing is still stuck in the summer and they're crossing the channel in their hundreds, the migrants , their hundreds, the migrants, that would be catastrophic politically . politically. >> but also tonight, i mean , >> but also tonight, i mean, later on this week, if you if he has a bad evening tonight, then later on this week, don't forget he's people's forum he's doing this people's forum dunng he's doing this people's forum during a week of two important by elections. >> thursday . >> thursday. >> thursday. >> yeah. and in both cases , >> yeah. and in both cases, we're looking at majorities of no. one of them's 18,000. one of them's 11,000. if he loses both of them it's very grim . now, you of them it's very grim. now, you can always make the case that by elections are not the same as a general election. but these are very important. and there's some very important. and there's some very interesting things in them, including our good friend, sir ed davey. i wonder how many people still feel they can vote lib dem with him as leader post because of the because of the post office? yes. yeah. and

you've got some interesting you've got some very interesting ones. favourite is ones. my favourite actually is the monster raving loony candidate who candidate in wellingborough, who is of his policies is to is one of his policies is to introduce the £0.99 coin, which i because it would help with change. i'd rather like that. >> well, i'm all in favour of cash and at least that's something that could happen. >> um, but i'm sorry, i'm obviously being silly there, but , you know, rishi. rishi is facing a dreadful week. yeah, a dreadful month. and not being able to do anything. i think he's in an impossible position . he's in an impossible position. >> that's all the more reason to tune in tonight. >> michael gove says he's one of the most gifted leaders in the western world. >> well, that's michael gove for you, isn't it? >> michael would say that >> yeah. michael would say that of course. yes. the levelling up secretary >> fm- e i'm sure as he >> yeah. and i'm sure as he says, michael is sharpening says, that michael is sharpening the knife he's about to put in his . his back. >> oh, i'm sure he means loyal. loyal michael gove i just asked bofis loyal michael gove i just asked boris how loyal michael boris johnson how loyal michael gove exactly . gove is exactly. >> that's a good question, isn't it ? it? >> and $- h- $— >> and you're going to stay with us, piers? yeah um, because

coming up next is diversity and inclusion ruining our armed forces? you're with britain's newsroom on

gb news. >> hi, rishi. here as prime minister, i'm focussed on delivering your priorities . so delivering your priorities. so tonight i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum where i'll be taking questions from a live audience about the issues that really matter to you. the economy, immigration, the nhs. see you there . see you there. >> hello. welcome back to britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and pip tomson. before the break, we mentioned the wellingborough by—election. it's happening on thursday and we want to give you the list of candidates who running. they candidates who are running. they are anna savage, gun liberal democrat ben habib, reform uk helen harrison, conservative

will morris, green party kevin watts, independent andrew pyne bailey, indian pendant, marion turner hawes , independent, and turner hawes, independent, and nick the flying brick monster, raving loony loony party there you have it now. >> the defence secretary, grant shapps, says the military needs a proper shake up to refocus its core mission of being a lethal fighting force. >> that's after emerged that >> that's after it emerged that the british to relax the british army wants to relax security checks for recruits from overseas to boost diversity and inclusion . in a document and inclusion. in a document titled the british army's race action plan in. >> well, still with us in studio is the public affairs consultant piers pottinger pearce. two things i want to ask you about the defence. look this is madness that relax the rules madness that you relax the rules to get more people of ethnicity or gay people in. rules is rules , aren't they? you want to. you want. they've got to be of a level and a certain calibre. but i want to ask you, because i know you used to advise, um, by britain's biggest defence contractor, what the hell. so.

and the second of our major aircraft carriers , both aircraft carriers, both commissioned at £35 billion each, stranded . can't move. each, stranded. can't move. hopeless. what is going on? perhaps diversity. first. >> well, i mean, it's not so much diversity as security and of course, you've got to have proper security checks for your armed forces in the same way that teachers, for example , all that teachers, for example, all need proper background checks to make sure they're safe with children . if anyone thought that children. if anyone thought that would be lessened because of diversity reasons, there would be an uproar , uproar, and but be an uproar, uproar, and but the same with our armed forces. we've got to have the right people , capable and people of people, capable and people of total integrity committed to fighting for crown and country and um, for once, i agree with grant shapps. he's absolutely right . grant shapps. he's absolutely right. right. but the grant shapps. he's absolutely right . right. but the problem right. right. but the problem is, again , that we saw this is, again, that we saw this leaked report about it from a group of people, whoever they

are, within the ministry of defence, not so much the military, because i think if you saw the open letter from the 12 former senior military people writing about this, saying it was utter nonsense . yes. the was utter nonsense. yes. the military themselves don't want to lessen the checks, but it's people within the ministry of defence that again, it smells of this cabal of wokery within the civil service that is doing immense harm to this country by stopping and stymying progress. if they don't like it or feel that it's not suitably woke enough. >> do you have any idea how how absolutely rigorous the checks are now and when there would be less vigorous what would be lost here? >> well , i here? >> well, i think as far as i know, they're pretty rigorous. >> but i mean, again, these days goodness only knows how rigorous they really are. look at how hopeless our border control is for example, um , it's very for example, um, it's very difficult to say, um, on the

wider issue of procurement in terms of the mod procuring equipment aren't whether it's as large as an aircraft carrier or as small as some bullets for a gun or, um, for decades , the gun or, um, for decades, the mod's procurement department has been woefully inadequate. it's staffed staffed by people who have not a clue to what they're doing. no trainee . and also doing. no trainee. and also imposing ludicrous changes of mind upon defence contract owners. when i was advising by, i remember, um, the chief executive of the company going absolutely crazy when they were getting phone calls from in the middle of a huge billion dollar, billion pound contract to try and change a major facet of design. halfway through to. and it's not like you can just it's not like a lego brick where you can take one bit out and put another in these are hugely sophisticated bits of kit that take years to develop and

actually , um, assemble . actually, um, assemble. >> but it's so embarrassing. i'm just saying. the telegraph reporting today, piers, the departure hms prince wales reporting today, piers, the de lead re hms prince wales reporting today, piers, the de lead the hms prince wales reporting today, piers, the de lead the biggest'rince wales reporting today, piers, the de lead the biggest nato wales to lead the biggest nato exercise since the cold war was delayed at the last minute. they won't say why and this comes after hms queen our after hms queen elizabeth, our other aircraft carrier, which was due due to join the was also due to due to join the exercise. largest military exercise. the largest military deployment since 1984 because of an issue with its propeller coupling . yeah, this is £7 coupling. yeah, this is £7 billion worth of taxpayers money invested in these ships. >> yeah, absolutely . >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> and, uh, but aircraft carriers have a lot of problems because they are so large . they because they are so large. they are very complex pieces of kit. it's not like a car you can take into kwik—fit and get sorted. um i think the first aircraft carrier you mentioned , the one carrier you mentioned, the one that was meant to lead , is now that was meant to lead, is now going to norway, and that suggests that there's a special technical reason for it to go to norway to be fixed. right. um, but it is embarrassing .

but it is embarrassing. >> tom. >> tom. >> tom. >> tom tugendhat, the security minister, has been he's been doing the rounds this morning and he's been asked about whether is it the case that it's because hms prince of wales can only sail on a sunny day when a tide is going the right way? is that what the delay could have been embarrassing, but. but tom tugendhat doesn't know the reason. says it's not reason. he says that it's not acceptable , um, that it is acceptable, um, that it is sitting in the dock . uh, but he sitting in the dock. uh, but he can't explain what's happened. >> well , i can't explain what's happened. >> well, i mean, i'm afraid this is indicative of the mess the whole government's in. >> it feeds into the idea that nothing's working. >> it really does. >> it really does. >> trains don't work. >> trains don't work. >> it's very sad work. i mean, this is very sad indeed. and i mean, britain's, uh, military was once the envy of the western world. and in fact, the whole world. and in fact, the whole world. and in fact, the whole world. and now, because of various cuts and various other reasons, it really isn't quite the fighting force it used to be. uh grant shapps. the fighting force it used to be. uh grant shapps . shapps uses be. uh grant shapps. shapps uses the word lethal . um, be. uh grant shapps. shapps uses the word lethal. um, i think

efficient would be a better word. and you know, you can't have a lethal fighting force if it isn't properly equipped. >> no, i'm afraid you can't. embarrassing. really embarrassing . piers, i think embarrassing. piers, i think we're running out of time, aren't we? >> thanks very much. so really great to see you. >> always a joy to see you, piers. >> we've missed you and enjoy the people's tonight. yes, >> we've missed you and enjoy thill, ople's tonight. yes, >> we've missed you and enjoy thill, i'lla's tonight. yes, >> we've missed you and enjoy thill, i'll be tonight. yes, >> we've missed you and enjoy thill, i'll be glued tonight. yes, >> we've missed you and enjoy thill, i'll be glued to 1ight. yes, >> we've missed you and enjoy thill, i'll be glued to it.ht. yes, i will, i'll be glued to it. >> yes. fingers crossed rishi. >> but i hope it goes well for him, i really do, but i think the game is over. okay >> right. coming next, will the house lords let rwanda house of lords let rwanda flights ground? flights get off the ground? that's on britain's that's next on britain's newsroom . newsroom. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. there. good morning to you. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. quite a changeable week weather of us, but week of weather ahead of us, but week of weather ahead of us, but we start with low pressure situated the north of the uk, situated to the north of the uk, winds circling in an

anticlockwise direction around. that in quite that means we feed in some quite cool from the cool polar air from the north—west. that air is also streaming in some showers. they'll be most frequent today across northwestern districts , across northwestern districts, heavy around even heavy around at times, even falling as sleet and snow over higher areas scotland, higher ground areas of scotland, northern pennines higher ground areas of scotland, nowelln pennines higher ground areas of scotland, nowell if pennines higher ground areas of scotland, nowell if you're pennines higher ground areas of scotland, nowell if you're further nnines as well if you're further towards the east and the south, though, you're more likely to stay number of sunny stay dry. decent number of sunny intervals during the day. temperatures around 6 to 11 c, but feeling quite cold along coasts in the north—west, where we some blustery winds we have some blustery winds around they'll transfer around and they'll transfer their head their way northwards as we head throughout the night. some gales around areas scotland around coastal areas of scotland over organised bands over time, some organised bands of pushing their of showers just pushing their way during way across the country during tonight. will be clear tonight. but there will be clear intervals in between of tonight. but there will be clear intenand n between of tonight. but there will be clear intenand underneath of tonight. but there will be clear intenand underneath those that. and underneath those starry skies, temperatures will drop low . single drop off a touch low. single figures for many our towns figures for many of our towns and frost and cities. a patchy frost possible rural spots, possible in rural spots, maybe some icy stretches in a few possible in rural spots, maybe some as' stretches in a few possible in rural spots, maybe some as well. ches in a few possible in rural spots, maybe some as well. but in a few possible in rural spots, maybe some as well. but fora few possible in rural spots, maybe some as well. but for many areas as well. but for many areas as well. but for many areas away from scotland, we start off a fine day on tuesday . start off a fine day on tuesday. a lot of sunshine in there as well, we are going to see well, but we are going to see the cloud thickening from the southwest, rain southwest, outbreaks of rain arriving england,

arriving into southwest england, wales, northern on wales, northern ireland later on as turning windier as as well, turning windier as well, but they are coming from a southwesterly is southwesterly direction which is feeding milder air, so feeding in some milder air, so double possible in the double digits possible in the southwest. single figures elsewhere milder air elsewhere, but that milder air is push its way across is going to push its way across all the uk as we head all areas of the uk as we head towards your towards wednesday. enjoy your day that warm feeling inside day by that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler. >> as sponsors of weather on

gb news. away. >> a very good morning. it is 10 am. on monday the 12th of february. you are with britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and pip tomson >> well, it's the first big election event of the year in gb news is hosting a special people's forum , with the prime people's forum, with the prime minister himself will be answering questions from you, the public. king of thanks. >> the nation, in his first

statement since being diagnosed with cancer, king charles was seen yesterday with queen camilla attending church in sandringham . sandringham. >> and more. trouble, of course, is the rwanda bill. today, a select committee has criticised it and it's up the house of it and it's up in the house of lords, where there will be a number of amendments, including one, think, the one, we think, from the archbishop . archbishop of canterbury. >> and of course, you are the most important part of the programme , so do get in touch programme, so do get in touch with your thoughts this morning on whatever we're discussing . gb on whatever we're discussing. gb views at gb news. com we've got plenty coming in about rishi sunak at our people's forum tonight in the north east. that's at 8:00. let's get your headlines. now. here's tatiana . pip. >> thank you. 10:01. your top stories from the gb newsroom israeli forces freed two hostages overnight during a raid

in rafah in southern gaza. fernando simon marmion and lewis hare were among more than 200 people kidnapped in october last yeah people kidnapped in october last year. the operation to free them came under the cover of air strikes. the hamas run health ministry saying 67 palestinians were killed. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says the sustained military pressure from israel will continue until there's total victory against there's total victory against the hamas terror group. in a call last night, the us president urged israel to halt a planned ground invasion . the planned ground invasion. the prime minister is rwanda . bill prime minister is rwanda. bill returns to the house of lords today, as mps say the asylum law is fundamentally flawed. pass joint committee on human rights said the bill risks untold damage to the uk's reputation when it comes to human rights. the house of lords will vote on a series of amendments today designed to weaken rishi sunak legislation to deport asylum seekers. it's been widely

criticised by mps and peers who say the east african nation is not a safe country. >> excellent fraud offences have risen sharply in the uk , risen sharply in the uk, accounting for 40% of all crime. >> the government, therefore, is launching a fraud campaign called think fraud , aiming to called think fraud, aiming to help people protect themselves . help people protect themselves. there were 3.3 million offences in the year ending june last yean in the year ending june last year, according to evans. crime figures for england and wales, labouris figures for england and wales, labour is accusing the conservatives of being at fault for the almost eight fold increase of cases . security increase of cases. security minister tom tugendhat attended a raid in east london this morning . he says the government morning. he says the government is doing all it can to minimise fraud. well it's down 13% year on year, so that demonstrates at the very least that we're extremely serious about bringing it down. >> and then investment in >> and then the investment in offices, 400 new officers into the national squad the the national fraud squad and the national intelligence unit national fraud intelligence unit means that what we're doing is we're actually targeting fraud where really matters. we're where it really matters. we're also organising organising a national fraud, sorry, an international fraud conference,

which will be coming up in march. and all of this is working together with the online fraud charter, has already fraud charter, which has already taken seriously on taken fraud very seriously on onune taken fraud very seriously on online platforms and managed to reduce it . reduce it. >> 1 in 5 nhs jobs are now filled by non—uk nationals. new nhs data shows. a third of doctors and 3 in 10 nurses working in the health service come from overseas. the highest proportion since records began . proportion since records began. the overall figure for nhs england in september last year was that 20.4, up from 13% in 2016. health bosses say it reflects how the nhs depends on its talented international workforce , but warns overseas workforce, but warns overseas recruitment can't fill vacancies forever . and 20,000 new homes forever. and 20,000 new homes are expected to be created as the government provide a £3 billion boost to the affordable homes scheme. the fund will give providers access to lower cost, fixed rate debt to increase the supply of affordable housing. it

includes homes for social rent, affordable rent and shared ownership . the scheme can also ownership. the scheme can also be used to revamp existing properties through energy upgrades for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts now it's back to andrew and . pip. well still to come. >> the king was full of smiles yesterday as he and queen camilla made their first public outing since that cancer treatment, but first, the prime minister has proposed that rwanda asylum law is fundamentally incompatible with the uk's human rights obugafions the uk's human rights obligations and would flout international law. >> that what i just said made no sense whatsoever. so should we try that again? and i think we should. right. so let's let's simplify . this is about the simplify this. this is about the rwanda bill that the house of lords peers are going through.

>> yeah. and there's a report by the human rights committee, joint house of lords, joint commons says it's incompatible . commons says it's incompatible. >> yeah. and with human rights obugafions. >> yeah. and with human rights obligations . and it's just not obligations. and it's just not going to work. so we've been here before haven't we. we have. we're back here again . so we're back here again. so parliament's joint committee on human rights is saying the government's safety rwanda bill risks untold damage to the uk's hard won reputation as a proponent of human rights internationally . internationally. >> so joining us in the studio to talk about this is to talk about this through is former adviser michael gove, former adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley, charlie this committee be chaired by committee used to be chaired by harriet stuffed harriet harman. it's stuffed full lawyers . it's full of a lot of lawyers. it's very what i call a very legalistic committee and what they're about is that they're concerned about is that they're concerned about is that the bill could mean that if the european court tries to step in and say, you can't take that person to anna because they're human rights, the government is going to say to hell . and we going to say to hell. and we wouldn't be the first country to do that. by the way . do that. by the way. >> yes, i think that's right. and i think this sort of would

back up some of the, the more hardline tories, what they were sort on. so the sort of saying early on. so the robert jenrick, the suella braverman, that robert jenrick, the suella brav bill an, that robert jenrick, the suella brav bill in, that robert jenrick, the suella brav bill in its that robert jenrick, the suella brav bill in its current that robert jenrick, the suella brav bill in its current form that this bill in its current form doesn't go far enough and it doesn't go far enough and it doesn't actually do what the doesn't go far enough and it doesn'ministery do what the doesn't go far enough and it doesn'minister would 1at the to prime minister would want it to do. on other hand, you do. but on the other hand, you will obviously another set will have obviously another set of who have different of lawyers who have a different set who will be able set of opinions who will be able to actually, the to say, actually, you know, the law strong enough to allow law is strong enough to allow ministers to decide where parliament , and it parliament is sovereign, and it would the minister to decide would be the minister to decide over above courts and over and above the courts and particularly international courts, decide you courts, if you decide that you need someone. need to deport someone. >> the former >> priti patel, the former home secretary um , but two secretary but one, um, but two now? yes, cleverly braverman then patel backwards. she suggested to the prime minister and he took it on board that there could be a guidance to civil servants. you will do this? yes. ministers can say you will do this irrespective of if the european court steps in and says the plane can't take off. >> exactly. and there will always be a critics. there will always be a critics. there will always be a critics. there will always be people with a difference of view, and there are always people who would put in a post a deportee. in a claim post a deportee. but in a claim post a deportee. but in of getting the in terms of just getting the policy ground, you're

policy off the ground, you're absolutely needs to policy off the ground, you're abrthately needs to policy off the ground, you're abrthat advice needs to policy off the ground, you're abrthat advice to needs to policy off the ground, you're abrthat advice to civil needs to policy off the ground, you're abrthat advice to civil servants) be that advice to civil servants to sure they are to make sure that they are adhenng to make sure that they are adhering law , uk adhering to uk law, uk legislation, bill legislation, the rwanda bill thatis legislation, the rwanda bill that is going through parliament and is any challenge to and if there is any challenge to that courts, okay, that that in the courts, okay, that can perhaps afterwards, can happen perhaps afterwards, but should not be a blocker but that should not be a blocker to what is suffering. uk to doing what is suffering. uk parliament for parliament has voted for, for which deport illegal which is to deport illegal migrants to rwanda, where we have an agreement with that country. >> but some people's problems with this is that, um, the government is now saying rwanda is a safe country without necessarily having the complete evidence to show that because we know about their human rights record, we know that there's a very tough approach to dissent there. and for some people , it's there. and for some people, it's like saying, um , well, it's not like saying, um, well, it's not vanilla ice cream. it's chocolate. well, why is it why is it chocolate? because we say so. 50. >> so. >> yes. and i think , um, uh, you >> yes. and i think, um, uh, you know, it is a, uh, um, an interest move for the government to just simply legislate that a

country is safe , therefore country is safe, therefore doesn't necessarily, some could argue that mean that it is. but i think that there will be enough scrutiny. and, you know, the home secretaries have been subsequently home secretaries have many, times have been there many, many times to look the rwanda have been there many, many times to to look the rwanda have been there many, many times to to look the rwanda have been there many, many times to to look at the rwanda scheme, to look at the conditions, and they will judge ultimately conditions, and they will judge ultiwe:ely conditions, and they will judge ultiwe shouldn't forget that >> we shouldn't also forget that the council for the united nations council for refugees has sent this year to rwanda. refugees from libya , rwanda. refugees from libya, about 2000 refugees, two in rwanda. and yet the united nafionsis rwanda. and yet the united nations is throwing its hands up in horror at this terrible racist, wicked tory government trying to send people who've crossed this , the channel crossed this, the channel illegally to rwanda to be processed when they're sending people to live there to it, can't they both can't be wrong. >> both can't be wrong. >> they both can't be wrong. exactly. so i think there exactly. and so i think there will be, as i say, opinions on both and everybody both sides. and everybody will have is have a view. and i think it is just imperative for the government sure that just imperative for the govepolicylt sure that just imperative for the govepolicylt work. ;ure that just imperative for the govepolicylt work. ;ure if at this policy does work. uh, if it's got any chance of wanting to win the next general election, we're obviously talking about the people's forum

tonight sunak. tonight with rishi sunak. >> you think this rwanda >> do you think this rwanda bill, rwanda policy, how does that play with voters in the nonh that play with voters in the north east where he is tonight? do you think that is their top priority on immigration, or is it the cost of living? is it the economy? there's talk this week that inflation could be on on the rise again . the rise again. >> yeah, i think that's um, a great question. i think, you know, every focus group that's conducted, i think it's the cost of everywhere the of living everywhere across the country, number one country, which is the number one importance. think, importance. but i do think, you know, migration, um a key know, migration, um, is a key factor for particularly the north of england. these are constituencies that voted to leave the eu because they felt that you know, that obviously, you know, westminster wasn't working for them. voted them. they you know, they voted conservative time them. they you know, they voted co 2019, tive time them. they you know, they voted co 2019, you time them. they you know, they voted co 2019, you know, time them. they you know, they voted co 2019, you know, leavingne them. they you know, they voted co 2019, you know, leaving the in 2019, you know, leaving the labour party because arguably labour party because arguably labour them behind when it labour left them behind when it came to dealing with the issues that they wanted and which was listening their concerns listening to their concerns and having a sovereign parliament and control of your and taking back control of your money, laws. and money, borders and laws. and part obviously taking money, borders and laws. and part control obviously taking money, borders and laws. and part control of)bviously taking money, borders and laws. and part control of youszly taking money, borders and laws. and part control of your borders.1g back control of your borders. you want sure you have you want to make sure you have an policy that is an immigration policy that is fair where taxpayers

fair and where uk taxpayers money spent uk money is being spent on uk pubuc money is being spent on uk public services, not being spent on, uh, on, uh, dealing with uh, migration or having an influx of, uh, you know, people that knew test communities and that puts pressure on public services. i think for people services. so i think for people particularly voted brexit in particularly who voted brexit in that red wall, in those red wall constituencies that obviously switched to the conservatives in 2019, is a very big important 2019, it is a very big important factor. but what is even factor. but what i think is even more important to get rwanda more important is to get rwanda off the ground to get this migration policy done, which means talking it. >> is it actually going to get off ground , charlie, before off the ground, charlie, before the election ? the election? >> i genuinely believe that it will. i mean, you honestly do. i honestly do. >> sunak timing the election around whether this flight. well, i flights get off the ground. i'm not sure about that. >> i mean i the reason why i personally do think it will happen soon is because it has to happen soon is because it has to happen. happen soon is because it has to happen . i don't think there's happen. i don't think there's any conceivable way that you can go general election as go into the general election as a say, you know, a conservative to say, you know, we've spent much time we've we've spent so much time and and on this and energy and money on this policy still come policy and it still hasn't come into think has to

into force. i think it has to happen, which is why i think it will but doesn't mean it will happen, but doesn't mean it will. it doesn't mean it will. but think i think it will, but but i think i think it will, but what rather what i would rather see is i don't think a flight can take off sort of days the off just sort of days before the general election. know, you general election. you know, you can't pig on market can't fatten the pig on market day. you to make day. you know, you have to make sure policy is out sure that this policy is out long election to say, long before an election to say, we've you know, said we'd do long before an election to say, we'vewe've now, said we'd do long before an election to say, we'vewe've dealt said we'd do long before an election to say, we'vewe've dealt with|id we'd do long before an election to say, we'vewe've dealt with that. 'd do long before an election to say, we'vewe've dealt with that. buto that. we've dealt with that. but now there are so many other issues we need talk now there are so many other issues whetherneed talk now there are so many other issues whether it'si talk now there are so many other issues whether it's the talk now there are so many other issues whether it's the economy, about, whether it's the economy, whether saying we should >> you're saying we should we should seeing series should be seeing seeing a series of flights, take off before the next of flights, take off before the nexi you know, flights >> i think, you know, flights need take off. need to take off. >> i one a day, every day. >> i want one a day, every day. >> i want one a day, every day. >> but sunday people is that going really well? going to be really well? >> can take thousands, going to be really well? >> room take thousands, going to be really well? >> room fore thousands, going to be really well? >> room for thousands s, going to be really well? >> room for thousands and there's room for thousands and they'll be expanding the space. but has the but hopefully that then has the effect, of stopping effect, doesn't it, of stopping the boats crossing the channel because to rwanda. >> and that is the deterrent. and that's what i think. you know, the prime minister's strategy is focussed on is making that those flights making sure that those flights can so people can can take off so people can physically visibly physically see and visibly see that come to that actually, if you do come to this country illegally, you will that actually, if you do come to thi deported. llegally, you will be deported. >> but think people in >> but do you think people in

refugee camps, in various parts of this? of the world will know this? will that? will they actually know that? >> i the word gets around. will they actually know that? >think the word gets around. will they actually know that? >think the the word gets around. will they actually know that? >think the waynord gets around. will they actually know that? >think the waynordways around. will they actually know that? >think the waynordway in round. will they actually know that? >think the waynordway in which i think the way the way in which people are able to, uh, seek out people are able to, uh, seek out people ultimately people who are ultimately responsible . responsible. >> so gangs should not >> so criminal gangs should not be they be doing the practice that they do of putting do anyway, and sort of putting people and shipping people on boats and shipping them i think people in the them over. i think people in the way, they seek out these way, and they can seek out these people able seek people will soon be able to seek out that if that out the fact that if that happens, will be deported. out the fact that if that haplet's will be deported. out the fact that if that haplet's ask will be deported. out the fact that if that haplet's ask youll be deported. out the fact that if that haplet's ask you aboutieported. out the fact that if that haplet's ask you about the rted. out the fact that if that haplet's ask you about the forum >> let's ask you about the forum tonight. sunak not always tonight. rishi sunak not always brilliant. of the brilliant. is he in front of the camera? he can be a little tetchy sometimes. how how fraught, . tonight fraught, how big a risk. tonight is forum gb news 8:00 i is the forum on gb news 8:00 i know tuned in. know you'll be tuned in. >> uh, and i've cleared my diary . i shall be tuned in and, uh, we have to. yeah and i think it will be. no, i think it'll be a good outing for the prime minister. i think, you know. all right. he will. i think, right. i think he will. i think, look, because he is someone i think, is, uh, now going to look, because he is someone i thincountry s, uh, now going to look, because he is someone i thincountry talking ow going to look, because he is someone i thincountry talking ow goithe to the country talking about the issues care about. issues that people care about. he's being very open and honest about the challenges some about the challenges and some of the out. so only the things he set out. so only last gave interview last week he gave an interview talking in talking about the challenges in the where wanted to cut

the nhs where he wanted to cut waiting lists. arguably, that is on of the on the back of some of the strikes have taken place. strikes that have taken place. that's would which that's what he would say, which is one of those is if impacted on one of those five so i think he five priorities. so i think he has to be very with the has to be very open with the pubuc has to be very open with the public about the challenges that he's priorities he's facing and the priorities that deliver and he's facing and the priorities that having deliver and he's facing and the priorities that having thateliver and he's facing and the priorities that having that open and i think having that open conversation that, conversation and open that, that direct, going to direct, nothing's going to change fact when stands change the fact when he stands in of audience that in front of that audience that he you know, gazillion he is you know, a gazillion times wealthy than all of times more wealthy than all of them. >> and that's not necessarily going to play well in terms of the empathy that people think. he may not have. i mean, there's a poll. i think it's in the report in the times today saying that he is perceived to be less caring than the rest of the conservative party >> well, i think ultimately, you know, in any kind of situation . know, in any kind of situation. so, i mean, i think you were talking earlier on about the wokerati in the army, you know, people care. you know, you people don't care. you know, you know, your background, your sexuality of your sexuality, the colour of your skin. best people skin. they want the best people doing to us in the doing the job to serve us in the front line. i don't think people really care too much whether you went to eat and whether you went

to oxbridge, got to oxbridge, whether you've got a money or not. they want a lot of money or not. they want their politicians to deliver. >> delivering, >> and if you're delivering, do they them to be they not want them to be relatable as well? >> they of course. i think >> they do, of course. i think it's all part of it. but ultimately it's just about delivery. got an delivery. and if you've got an economy yes, you delivery. and if you've got an econ0|there yes, you delivery. and if you've got an econ0|there are yes, you delivery. and if you've got an econ0|there are predictions s, you delivery. and if you've got an econ0|there are predictions and»u know, there are predictions and there will always be predictions, inflation has predictions, but inflation has come in the come down. that is a tick in the box prime minister for box for the prime minister for one priorities. has one of his priorities. it has helped with the cost of living. there's do and the there's a lot more to do and the budget on the 6th march there's a lot more to do and the budget should 6th march there's a lot more to do and the budget should help march there's a lot more to do and the budget should help with rch there's a lot more to do and the budget should help with that. should should help with that. but got to have that but he's got to have that conversation with the public to make sure they understand how difficult make sure they understand how difficu course, doesn't matter >> of course, it doesn't matter if married to a new, if he's married to a new, stupendously rich woman and he's very own right. but very rich in his own right. but people might be surprised to have his return at have read in his tax return at the weekend, he paid tax rate the weekend, he paid a tax rate of uh, isn't he of £0.20. uh, why isn't he paying of £0.20. uh, why isn't he paying and that will be paying more tax and that will be a question. he'll be. i'm sure will be asked about tonight and obviously good obviously got very good accountants have to accountants and he'll have to answer if if he's asked answer it if he's, if he's asked that question i haven't it. that question i haven't seen it. but problematic that but that is a problematic that is problem for him potentially i >> -- >> well kan- hm- >> well think he will just >> well i think he will just have to be open about it and

say, look, you these say, look, you know, these are his finances know, his finances and, you know, everything is accounted for in a particular legal particular way. it's all legal and to that and he'll have to explain that away. i haven't seen that. but and people ? and what about people? >> think there is a >> and i think there is still a number of people the shires, number of people in the shires, for who want to see for example, who want to see the return boris johnson. you return of boris johnson. you know, he is still he's still there . he's still sort of kwasi there. he's still sort of kwasi kwarteng shadow gb news. he is still there. and then you say to people, why? and they say, well, because he's he's got a personality , i.e. rishi sunak personality, i.e. rishi sunak hasn't. and we want a prime minister with personality . minister with personality. >> well, i think um, i, i'd slightly sort of take that on to say that actually he's got more of a personality than anyone. it seems in the conservative party. so boris johnson will always be the biggest personality. i think, the room. but i think think, in the room. but i think it be, uh, too bad an it wouldn't be, uh, too bad an idea the party and idea perhaps the party and strategists number try strategists in number 10 to try and get boris involved in some way to make sure that actually, when to the public when you're going to the public at general election, people at the general election, people can united can see that it is a united conservative party, that actually that people actually the values that people voted for, charlie , because he's

voted for, charlie, because he's quite at going off message quite good at going off message as boris. there's a there's always anybody going as boris. there's a there's alw message. anybody going as boris. there's a there's alwmessage. butanybody going as boris. there's a there's alwmessage. but liybody going as boris. there's a there's alwmessage. but i think, going as boris. there's a there's alwmessage. but i think, look,] off message. but i think, look, if you can come together and use him particular way it him in a particular way where it reminds public you voted reminds the public why you voted conservative in 2019 under boris, obviously boris, why boris will obviously be the prime minister be backing the prime minister i'm that's something he'll i'm sure that's something he'll he do publicly. obviously, i'm sure that's something he'll he hasn't�*ublicly. obviously, i'm sure that's something he'll he hasn't already obviously, i'm sure that's something he'll he hasn't already back»usly, i'm sure that's something he'll he hasn't already back on y, i'm sure that's something he'll he hasn't already back on the if he hasn't already back on the campaign trail, do think campaign trail, do you think we'll him? think it would we'll see him? i think it would be in the conservative party's interests. would be interests. i think it would be interests. i think it would be in to so. interests. i think it would be in so to so. interests. i think it would be in so there's to so. interests. i think it would be in so there's the) so. interests. i think it would be in so there's the answer. interests. i think it would be in so there's the answer . yes. yes. >> will we see him? >> will we see him? >> i think these dog dog dogs are helpful vote. are always a helpful vote. i would certainly like to see him on the campaign trail. >> he would do it if he >> i think he would do it if he was is was approached, but that is obviously people far more obviously for people far more highly paid and in higher positions of power than me. >> yeah, well, yeah . >> yeah, well, yeah. >> yeah, well, yeah. >> charlie, always good to talk to you. thank you. >> well, joining now from >> well, joining us now from westminster is our political correspondent, olivia utley . correspondent, olivia utley. olivia, have you had any whisperings about this boris johnson getting on the campaign trail with his dog?

>> well, there were whispers last week that boris johnson and rishi sunak might be working together when interviewed, rishi sunak refused to rule out going into some sort of partnership, bringing boris johnson back in some way. he said he wouldn't talk about personnel issues. i mean, i agree with charlie there. it would be good for the general public to see a united conservative party. and i think the idea of boris johnson out with his dog dylan might feel quite reassuring to some of those conservative party members. remember, the members are important. they get to decide who the leader is in the. in the event of a tory defeat, it might reassure them that the conservative party has still got its act together . its act together. >> yeah . what do you think the >> yeah. what do you think the chances are , olivia ? because i chances are, olivia? because i mean, because the downside for rishi is that he's overshadowed by boris . by boris. >> well, exactly . that is the >> well, exactly. that is the downside. and to be honest, i, i was a little bit sceptical about

rishi sunak suggesting that the two men have a have have a very good working relations . ukip good working relations. ukip rishi sunak of course , rishi sunak of course, precipitated boris johnson's downfall by stabbing him in the front in july 2022. and we know that boris closest allies really aren't rishi sunak fans. if you look at the way nadine dorries, one of boris johnson's closest friends in parliament, treated rishi sunak suggests there isn't a great relationship between the two camps. nadine dorries said that she was going to stand down as an mp and then waited until the worst possible moment for rishi sunak before she actually triggered that by—election. and ever since, she's been sort of swiping from the sidelines. of course, nadine dorries and boris johnson aren't the same person, but much are sort of but they very much are sort of singing from the same hymn sheet. i think it's quite sheet. so i think it's quite possible is all possible that that this is all being of , uh, possible that that this is all being of, uh, hammed up a being sort of, uh, hammed up a little bit by cchq in the hope of getting the membership

excited . i mean, to be honest, excited. i mean, to be honest, if i were boris johnson, he has a very, comfortable life a very, very comfortable life now. i can't how many now. i can't remember how many millions he's managed millions of pounds he's managed to since leaving office as to earn since leaving office as prime minister. but if have prime minister. but if you have a look at house in a look at that house in oxfordshire that him and carrie now own, i don't know why he would be interested in coming back politics, but back to front line politics, but it might be quite satisfying for him, see rishi sunak him, perhaps, to see rishi sunak coming to him with a begging bowl. >> what are the people's forum tonight ? um, >> what are the people's forum tonight? um, olivia, it's quite likely that the boris fact question will be asked. um in number 10, is there much nervousness and anxiety about how well the pm will perform tonight ? tonight? >> i think that's a really interesting question. i mean , interesting question. i mean, rishi sunak's closest aides , his rishi sunak's closest aides, his his very inner circle are still feeling positive about the general election. pretty much everyone else in number 10 and around number 10 is not so hopeful. rishi is at closest.

aides are hoping that this is going to be a chance for sunak to prove that he is relatable, that he can speak to members of the public because has been the public because that has been the public because that has been the worry in cch. clue that. the big worry in cch. clue that. q that when rishi sunak gets on the campaign trail and starts talking to ordinary people, there is a worry that he comes across out of touch as, uh, across as out of touch as, uh, incredibly rich . uh, there's a incredibly rich. uh, there's a there's a nervousness or i'm not sure if you remember that clip from a few weeks ago where rishi sunak was out and about and he got ambushed by a member of the pubuc got ambushed by a member of the public who was asking him about the and it sounded a bit as the nhs, and it sounded a bit as though he was patronising her, sort to her, sort of talking down to her, telling way, way he telling her the way, the way he is things rather than is running things rather than listening saying. is running things rather than listeiing saying. is running things rather than listei think saying. is running things rather than listei think for saying. is running things rather than listei think for rishi saying. is running things rather than listei think for rishi sunaks|g. and i think for rishi sunaks allies, tonight is a chance for him to show another side of himself he'll be getting questions from members of the public. undecided voters picked by a survation poll. nothing to do with, uh gb news in terms of the in terms of the make up of the in terms of the make up of the audience and rishi sunak will have to answer them and

then possibly listen to how satisfied they were with his answer. and i think that's going to be a real challenge for him and will be a fascinating start to campaign. to the election campaign. >> we're >> absolutely. well, we're all looking it here and looking forward to it here and our viewers and listeners are too. >> absolutely. yeah don't forget, you can listen on the radio driving radio too. if you're driving home at home. so home or if you're at home. so don't miss it. yeah. don't don't miss it. yeah. >> you can be sure it's going to make headlines. oh for sure make some headlines. oh for sure it'll wall wall. make some headlines. oh for sure it'llnow vall wall. make some headlines. oh for sure it'llnow earlierwall. make some headlines. oh for sure it'llnow earlierwaithe programme >> now earlier in the programme we wellingborough we mentioned the wellingborough by—election full by—election here is the full list running. list of candidates running. they are lib dem are anna savage, gun lib dem benabib uk helen benabib reform uk helen harrison. conservative will morris , green party kevin watts, morris, green party kevin watts, independent andrew pyne, bailey, independent andrew pyne, bailey, independent marion turner hawes, independent. nick the flying brick monster , raving loony brick monster, raving loony party, jen kitchen, labour party , alex merola, britain first, ankit, love, j. malala, post—mortem , independent i think post—mortem, independent i think that's the lot well done andrew. >> still to come do stay with us. we're going to be talking about king charles who made his

first public outing since his cancer diagnosis yesterday . hey, cancer diagnosis yesterday. hey, we're going to be getting the latest for you from the royal household. this is britain's newsroom on

radio. >> hi rishi here. as prime minister, i'm focussed on delivering your priorities . so delivering your priorities. so tonight i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum where i'll be taking questions from a live audience about the issues that really matter to you the economy, immigration, the nhs. see you there . see you there. >> us britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and pip tomson. now the labour candidate in the this is a by—election next week in rochdale , has been next week in rochdale, has been forced to issue an apology after he saying israel was,

he was taped saying israel was, quote, warned about the hamas october seventh attack ten days before . asher is standing to before. asher is standing to succeed sir tony lloyd as mp after 73 year old's death, has responded by apologising unreservedly for his comments. >> yeah, and then after that, lisa nandy went on to hold an event. >> she did so. so this man has keir starmer has made a big pitch about his labour leadership banishing the scourge of anti—semitism from labour. there was that report when about starmer's sorry . there was that report when about starmer's sorry. um, uh, corbyn's time as labour leader by the equalities human rights commission. he said that anti—semitism was endemic in the labour party. so starmer has gone to great lengths to get rid of it. so asher ally has made an overtly anti—semitic statement. he's apologised for it. overtly anti—semitic statement. he's apologised for it . labour he's apologised for it. labour is standing by him in the by—election and lisa nandy , by—election and lisa nandy, who's on the labour front bench, appeared alongside him on a platform now they can't effectively get rid of him because the die is cast election. but you don't have to put a frontbencher next to him

endorsing are others endorsing him and are others going to endorse him? starmer, of course, said nothing. of course, has said nothing. >> . asher ally has . he >> he hasn't. asher ally has. he has released a statement in which he apologises for his comments. he says i apologise unreservedly to the jewish community for my comments which were deeply offensive, ignorant and false. hamas is hiring. a terror attack was responsibility of hamas alone and they are still holding hostages who must be released. >> and of course, what he he . >> and of course, what he he. this is a stuff that's on the internet . it's from the crank internet. it's from the crank conspire racists who come out with all this rubbish that israel wanted. hamas to raid israel. so they could they could then go into gaza and raze gaza to the ground and, and so this is hugely embarrassing for the labour party, hugely embarrassing thing that he's been caught in the act because he was secretly taped and i think it is a problem for the labour leadership because on the one hand, they've got to stand by him because as a by—election next week. but if he wins the

by—election, do they then immediately because immediately suspend him because if any labour mp had said that they would have the whip withdrawn immediately ? yeah, withdrawn immediately? yeah, because so offensive and because it's so offensive and a way to start as an mp if that. yeah, yeah. and nick thomas—symonds , who was on a gb thomas—symonds, who was on a gb news breakfast this morning with um, eamonn and um, wasn't isabel was it. it was, it was ellie. ellie. yeah. he's the shadow cabinet officer. he said what the candidate said was deeply offensive and it was right that it was apologised over. but it's a problem because this is going to run right until the by—election week. by—election next week. >> beyond and beyond possibly. >> and say the pressure will >> and i say the pressure will be he wins because normally be if he wins because normally normally labour would expect to hold that seat. it's a very safe labour seat. the clamour from even labour mps would be he's got to have the whip withdrawn and then they would effectively stop him standing a candidate stop him standing as a candidate at election. at the next general election. >> fact that he has >> does the fact that he has swiftly apologised and draw a line underneath it? >> think so, because >> i don't think so, because i think if somebody is capable of holding views, will

holding those views, that will be a big issue. and look, the tories don't have much to attack. labour these days, attack. labour on these days, but good. but but this is pretty good. but this is causing a of this is causing a lot of embarrassment within labour. embarrassment within the labour. labour because there'll be happens because there'll be frontbenchers going into rochdale week and next week rochdale this week and next week to support the candidate . or to support the candidate. or will they, will they be pulled out. should out. out. they should be pulled out. in view, we will let you know in my view, we will let you know what on gb news what happens here on gb news >> we must bring you the >> but we must bring you the other that are other candidate that are standing rochdale standing in the rochdale by—election. so we've already been talking azhar ali, been talking about azhar ali, labour party. then there's mark coleman , independent simon coleman, independent simon danczuk reform uk. ian donaldson , liberal democrat paul ellison , , liberal democrat paul ellison, conservative. george galloway , conservative. george galloway, workers party of britain michael howarth, independent. william howarth, independent. william howarth, independent. william howarth, independent. guy otten, green party gavin roden, sebby's corner, official monster raving loony dave tully, independent. >> lots of candidates aren't there now. king charles full of smiles yesterday as he and queen camilla made their first public outing since his cancer diagnosis. >> yes, yes, it comes after he

expressed his most heartfelt thanks to nation for the thanks to the nation for the many messages support many messages of support and good so joining us now good wishes, so joining us now is royal ingrid seward , is royal expert ingrid seward, who's fascinating who's just written a fascinating book about the monarchy, ingrid , book about the monarchy, ingrid, look, we don't know what's going on with his cancer. >> we don't know what sort of cancer he's got, but i think a lot were thrilled to see lot of us were thrilled to see him looking pretty cheerful and to he was walking as to see that he was walking as normal to hospital on the sandringham state with queen camilla. >> well, the king is very positive and he's always been very wary about illness . and very wary about illness. and he's not one of those people that, you know, dwells on illness . he that, you know, dwells on illness. he just, you that, you know, dwells on illness . he just, you know, illness. he just, you know, pushesit illness. he just, you know, pushes it aside. and i just think i think he's being incredibly brave. but it also i think he's very buoyed up by the support and the messages that he's received. you know , from he's received. you know, from the general public, you know, who. and also, i think he's he's rather pleased that by actually telling us all what's going on,

he's, you know, brought more awareness to this problem that so many people suffer from , you so many people suffer from, you know, is, you know, various forms of cancer. and i think he feels he's got to keep that up. so public appearances are a must . and he's the king. he's got to be seen. >> yeah. and we know he's going to carry on doing his boxes every day. ingrid. the red boxes that i think the only day they get off is christmas day . and get off is christmas day. and his audience with the prime minister will continue. but obviously in some form of, um, zoom. obviously in some form of, um, zoo february it's resuming, >> february 21st, it's resuming, apparently. is it the 21st in in person, in person , which. person, in person, which. >> so that's encouraging. ingrid isn't it, that he'll be seeing the minister in person the prime minister in person next week ? next week? >> think that's very >> well, i think that's very encouraging . it means that, encouraging. and it means that, you know he refuses give you know, he he refuses to give in to fatigue because what i mean, most people that have cancer treatment do, do suffer from fatigue. if nothing else. and he just won't give in to it. and he just won't give in to it. and so it just, you know, shows you what a strong character he is. and of course, he's got this

immense support from his wife who's who's supported him throughout so many years . and, throughout so many years. and, i mean, i just don't think without her he'd be he'd be nearly as strong as this . strong as this. >> he's got to rest though, too. and we all know he's a workaholic. we know after some of those dinners he hosts that he then goes to his study and he's at his computer writing emails or even phoning people into hours . but he emails or even phoning people into hours. but he has into the early hours. but he has got rest. he's 75 and he's got to rest. he's 75 and he's got to rest. he's 75 and he's got cancer . got cancer. >> well, i'm sure that queen camilla will see to it that she will make him rest. um, i don't think he'll get away with, you know, just, you know, creeping back into his study and switching the lights on. i think she will make sure he rests because he needs to rest in order to recover . yeah well, order to recover. yeah well, ingrid, thank you for joining us. >> us. >> that some royal extra ingrid seward. have you written ? i've seward. have you written? i've been reading her book. it's absolutely fascinating . um, i'll absolutely fascinating. um, i'll tell you about that in a bit now. still to come. >> nice little plug there, ingrid. yeah, still to come. is

bofis ingrid. yeah, still to come. is boris the man who boris johnson the one man who can save the tory party what are you think about that? we are predictably getting quite a lot of your thoughts on that issue this morning. of your thoughts on that issue this morning . that and much more this morning. that and much more after your latest headlines with tatiana . pep. tatiana. pep. >> thank you. 1033 your top stories from the gb newsroom. israeli forces freed two hostages overnight during a raid in rafah in southern gaza . in rafah in southern gaza. fernando simon marmion and louis hare were among more than 200 people kidnapped in october last yeah people kidnapped in october last year. the operation to free them came under the cover of airstrikes. the hamas run health ministry says 67 palestinians were killed . prime minister were killed. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says pressure from israel will continue until there's a total victory against hamas. both the foreign secretary lord cameron, and labour leader sir keir starmer have voiced their concerns about

the prospect of a military offensive in rafah , where over offensive in rafah, where over a million displaced people are sheltering in support. the prime minister's safety of rwanda bill is set to face more opposition when it returns to the house of lords later. it says joint committee, made up of mps and peers, said the law is fundamentally incompatible with the uk's human rights obligations. the uk's human rights obugafions.the the uk's human rights obligations. the house of lords will vote on a series of amendments designed to weaken rishi sunak legislation to deport asylum seekers , fraud deport asylum seekers, fraud offences have risen sharply in the uk, accounting for 40% of all crime . the government is all crime. the government is launching a fraud campaign called think fraud, aiming to help people protect themselves. there were 3.3 million offences in the year ending june last yean in the year ending june last year, according to ons crime figures for england and wales. labouris figures for england and wales. labour is accusing the conservative party of being at fault for the almost eightfold increase of cases . and 1 in 5 increase of cases. and 1 in 5 nhs jobs are now filled by

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there to industry quick. the technology here that we do in motorsport, that trickles down to automotive sectors and to the automotive sectors and it's things like you see in your family car, you know, you can thank people like us for why you're getting your mpg . you're getting your mpg. >> well, still to come, all eyes on taylor swift at last night's super bowl . but surely it was super bowl. but surely it was about the sport , not about about the sport, not about taylor swift. >> um, i wouldn't have watched the super bowl for the for the sport or for her. what would you have watched it for? i wouldn't have watched it for? i wouldn't have watched it for? i wouldn't have watched it. what do you include to gb news? >> obviously she did. >> obviously she did. >> she did she steal the show ? >> she did she steal the show? andy been pretty andy murray he's been pretty sarcastic. he's jokingly sarcastic. he's been jokingly congratulating her for winning it because she was the centre of attention, because of course, her boyfriend isn't he. he's plays the kansas city plays for the kansas city chiefs. anyway, we are having a little chat about that. little chit chat about that. andrew wait. this is andrew cannot wait. this is britain's newsroom on

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news radio . news radio. >> hi. rishi. here as prime minister, i'm focussed on delivering your priorities. so tonight i'll be on the road to join gb news for a special people's forum where i'll be taking questions from a live audience about the issues that really matter to you. the economy , immigration, the nhs, economy, immigration, the nhs, sea you. there . sea you. there. >> it's . a 1042 with britain's >> it's. a 1042 with britain's newsroom on gb news, with andrew pierce and pip tomson, and a very good morning to our panel today. >> this monday morning, former labour adviser laza. labour adviser matthew laza. good and and good morning and author and broadcaster emily woolf . great broadcaster emily woolf. great to both. matthew what to see you both. matthew what should with? well should we start with? well i think we're gonna start with kwasi kwarteng , the former kwasi kwarteng, the former chancellor, , um, more chancellor, briefly, um, more briefly than he wanted when liz truss sacked and he was truss sacked him and he was there 30,000ft back

there at 30,000ft coming back from meeting in the states. >> but anyway, kwasi was on gb news and been news yesterday and he has been saying that tories are in saying that the tories are in such pickle that rishi such a pickle that rishi needs to predecessor and to turn to his predecessor and bnng to turn to his predecessor and bring back boris. >> we have clip of that. let's >> we have a clip of that. let's hear if want hear what he said. if you want somebody should reach somebody help, you should reach out to them. >> that's you would do ? >> 7- >> yes. if 7— >> yes. if you ? >> yes. if you were in a difficult spot and you wanted a friend to help you somebody friend to help you or somebody to yeah. you would to help you, yeah. you would probably or probably pick up the phone or admit well, admit that he needs. well, there's that nemesis. there's all of that ego nemesis. there's all of that ego and nonsense. not time simply nonsense. it's not time simply to more, more, you know, more of the same. no, something has to change us to have a chance change for us to have a chance of winning. and if that means swallowing some pride and suppressing a bit of ego and reaching to someone who's an reaching out to someone who's an approved then approved campaigner. yeah. then he should do that . so that's the he should do that. so that's the big challenge for rishi. now is whether that well as whether he does that well as a labour through and through . labour man through and through. >> matthew, would you be >> um, matthew, would you be nervous that boris is back on the campaign trail? no, i mean, he is because he is a proven vote winner. >> you see, this is the thing

is, i think it isn't actually about personality. i think boris is a proven vote winner because in election, stood is a proven vote winner because in somethingection, stood is a proven vote winner because in something which stood is a proven vote winner because in something which sgetting for something which was getting brexit wanted brexit done, whether he wanted it or you it was it done or not. you know, it was he you a very clear he offered you a very clear opfion he offered you a very clear option he offered option and he offered a different sort of conservatism. he like he wanted, you know, things like hs2. have moved hs2. now the tories have moved away from hs2. the hard core brexiteers argue they brexiteers would argue they haven't brexiteers would argue they havethey wanted. and i think way they wanted. and i think that feel that people just feel disappointed with the government in it's done. in general and what it's done. so i think the problem is they can wheel i mean, yes, can wheel him out. i mean, yes, it be a nice photo op. it it would be a nice photo op. it will day or two's it would be a nice photo op. it will he day or two's it would be a nice photo op. it will he campaigns,iay or two's it would be a nice photo op. it will he campaigns, butyr two's it would be a nice photo op. it will he campaigns, but ittwo's it would be a nice photo op. it will he campaigns, but it won't that he campaigns, but it won't take away from the fact that the record they've defend record they've got to defend and sometimes be sometimes they seem to be fighting against their own record you record in government and you know, think that will be know, and i think that will be what conflicts with with trying to wheel him out. >> we've some views >> i mean, we've got some views coming on this. jane frost coming in on this. jane frost wants shirts wants bring back boris t shirts made good morning made andy steadman good morning to say you've always to you. you say you've always liked man doesn't liked him, but one man doesn't make a team. tories are so make a team. the tories are so divided. inevitable that divided. it's inevitable that we're end up with we're going to end up with starmer. i agree . starmer. emma, i agree. >> man is completely >> look, this man is completely discredited himself. as matthew says, was sacked at 30. well,

says, he was sacked at 30. well, i thought it was 35,030. >> yeah. maybe mile high club. >> anyway, he was sacked. he had 38 as chancellor. it's 38 days as chancellor. it's hardly a glittering record. does something need to change. yeah, absolutely. would bringing back bofis absolutely. would bringing back boris really shift the polls really shift that 2025 point lead? no no. would it further divide the tory party yes. this is what needs to happen. and is not what needs to happen. and it's not going to change the conservative fortunes. conservative party fortunes. i mean yeah kwasi kwarteng mean yeah, kwasi kwarteng makes a that need to a good point that they need to do don't think this do something. i don't think this is it , but do something. i don't think this is it, but there not is it, but is there not a suggestion perhaps, emma, that if the red wall, if he went behind the red wall, he would resonate much more with the than perhaps rishi? the voters than perhaps rishi? >> and if he says, look, yeah, i know you're not going to get me, but supporting this so but i'm supporting this guy. so i vote . i want you to vote. >> is that is that enough though? but it's a question of what offering. yeah. what he's offering. yeah. issues. the issues that are issues. it's the issues that are going like i get going deeper. things like i get that living. things that cost of living. it's things like immigration. a like immigration. there's not a lot can about lot that boris can do about that. absolutely >> all the bluster >> you know, for all the bluster and the sort you know, and all the sort of, you know, razzmatazz that with razzmatazz that you get with boris, queues for boris, there'll be queues for selfies, i'm not sure they'd selfies, but i'm not sure they'd be vote at the

be queuing to vote tory at the polling stations. >> but is a good >> but he is such a good communicator. you said communicator. and you said earlier it's not about personalities, think personalities, but i think for a lot right it lot of voters. right or not, it is. well i think it would be if, you know, i think it is about personalities, when personalities, partly when people the leader people come to pick the leader because want know, because you want to know, you know, going to have know, who you're going to have as and what as prime minister and what qualities as prime minister and what que but s he's clearly not as prime minister and what quebut s he's clearly not going >> but as he's clearly not going to be prime minister again, if she's the in this she's the leader in this election, really election, i think it really would a that people election, i think it really would enjoy that people election, i think it really would enjoy havingt people election, i think it really would enjoy having himyple election, i think it really would enjoy having him around. they'd but they'd enjoy the buzz, but actually sense actually they just their sense of betrayal so big. i mean, of betrayal is so big. i mean, for example, how going to for example, how is he going to defend net immigration, for example, how is he going to defe know, net immigration, for example, how is he going to defe know, whichimmigration, for example, how is he going to defe know, which is migration, for example, how is he going to defe know, which is the �*ation, you know, etc. which is the things that people feeling things that people are feeling really angry about. things that people are feeling reaiand ngry about. things that people are feeling reaiand boris|bout. things that people are feeling reaiand boris johnson was prime >> and boris johnson was prime minister during a really extraordinary time. when you look of look back on the last sort of 4 or 5, four years in this country, we're a country, we're in a very different place now. the different place right now. the country knees, it's country is on its knees, it's depressed, we're not in depressed, but we're not in lockdown. it was a very, very different time. and say, different time. and as you say, the international situation is very different. and kwasi i rather mischievous, rather like rather mischievous, is what's is of course knows that what's going happen week as going to happen now all week as we morning, is we hear on monday morning, is every tory, every tory spokesperson on the media round is to be should is going to be asked should bofis

is going to be asked should boris the campaign trail? >> michael gove has already said that should go for that maybe they should go for a dnnk that maybe they should go for a drink start

radio. still in the studio with us. >> us. >> has former labour adviser matthew laza and the author and broadcaster emma wolf. now, before get into other papers, before we get into other papers, i just want to you, matthew, before we get into other papers, i just w.over) you, matthew, before we get into other papers, i just w.over) rochdaletthew, before we get into other papers, i just w.over) rochdale labour the row over the rochdale labour candidate, deeply anti—semitic statement. apologised fully statement. he's apologised fully for it. uh, he's been disowned by various labour frontbenchers, but only hours after that story came to light, lisa nandy, a very senior member of the labour frontbench, appeared on a platform why? platform with him. uh, why? >> well , that's the question. >> well, that's the question. i mean, i frankly , i can't i can't mean, i frankly, i can't i can't defend lisa doing that. think defend lisa doing that. i think she's got to, you know, if she was aware story , um, she was aware of the story, um, she should have she shouldn't have done i mean, labour's done it. i mean, labour's in a terrible this because terrible bind on this because the matter is, if the truth of the matter is, if he wasn't, the nominations he wasn't, if the nominations hadnt he wasn't, if the nominations hadn't closed, which hadn't already closed, which means already means the names have already gone the by—election, you gone for in the by—election, you can't off the can't get his name off the ballot can't replace ballot paper. you can't replace

him candidate. you him as a candidate. you are stuck him. um, you stuck with him. um, you literally. you you literally. what do you do? you either say, you know, either say, um, you know, stick with he's with him. um, now he's apologised he's asked people apologised or he's asked people not to vote labour, which you clearly so it's a mess. >> we've got a couple of emails. come says this come in. john says this politician only apologising come in. john says this politicia|he only apologising come in. john says this politicia|he goty apologising come in. john says this politicia|he got caught.|ising come in. john says this politicia|he got caught. he|g come in. john says this politicia|he got caught. he should come in. john says this polibe a|he got caught. he should come in. john says this polibe allowed caught. he should come in. john says this polibe allowed to ught. he should come in. john says this polibe allowed to ught. forshould not be allowed to stand for election. he's disgrace. election. he's a disgrace. >> to be honest >> well, i think to be honest with i think that's what with you, i think that's what keir starmer's view would in keir starmer's view would be in private. but of course you cannot literally cannot because you literally can't him off the ballot can't get him off the ballot papen can't get him off the ballot paper. it's the worst paper. so it's the worst nightmare can nightmare scenario. but they can withdraw their campaign, can withdraw their campaign, can withdraw funding. so what withdraw funding. yeah. so what they do is they they what they will do is they will will that will withdraw. you will see that the frontbenchers won't be going. down. going. it will be scaled down. they'll out. going. it will be scaled down. they subtly. out. going. it will be scaled down. theysubtly. i out. going. it will be scaled down. they subtly. i think out. going. it will be scaled down. theysubtly. i think labourt. going. it will be scaled down. theysubtly. i think labour is um, subtly. i think labour is expecting now lose rochdale. expecting now to lose rochdale. to was pretty to be honest, it was pretty worried anyway. and worried about it anyway. and this this will, this will just this will, this will drive white into will drive the white vote into the hands of reform. and i don't think it would do think it would be. it would do anything save the muslim anything to save the muslim vote for galloway. to say, for a galloway. i have to say, as a labour person, i'm really upset people who upset that people who are sitting this meeting, sitting in this meeting, which actually wasn't in rochdale, was in lancashire, a in lancashire, where he's a councillor in rochdale in greater manchester, technically. so this was in in his, in so this was in his, in his, in his, his own that he's

his, in his own patch that he's normally spoke up normally in. nobody spoke up about pretty disgraceful. >> and this is tricky isn't it, for because he's made for starmer because he's made his the cleansing of for starmer because he's made his antisemetice cleansing of for starmer because he's made his antisemetic arm�*ansing of for starmer because he's made his antisemetic arm�*an the of the antisemetic arm of the corbyn years, the equalities human saying corbyn years, the equalities humarendemic. saying it was endemic. >> he has, but he's also been unclear since the beginning of the know, the the israel—hamas you know, the conflict 7th, conflict since october 7th, he hasn't has done hasn't been clear. he has done his flip flopping u—turns about whether or not people should call for a ceasefire, then softening that stance. so i think he's in a mess. anyway um, but we've got two by but i mean, we've got two by elections thursday . elections this thursday. wellingborough kingswood. wellingborough and kingswood. they're very, very they're going to inviting. and then we to be very inviting. and then we have the everyone is have the big everyone else is looking forward to a valentine's day wednesday. i'm looking day on wednesday. i'm looking forward by—election forward to the by—election on thursday . thursday. >> sad. >> it's very sad. >> it's very sad. >> valentine's on >> it's valentine's day on wednesday, >> it's valentine's day on wednesccares? are you not ready >> who cares? are you not ready with uh. with your, uh. >> ash wednesday. as a good >> it's ash wednesday. as a good catholic boy, means catholic boy, that means abstinence me. can't abstinence for me. i can't be bossing going to mass. >> i can still give your partner some flowers. >> yeah , but listen, i'm never >> yeah, but listen, i'm never the sort on ash wednesday, two blokes to have a nice, twee, romantic dinner in a little restaurant with a little candle. they put the prices up, don't

they? and the food is terrible. and service is appalling. >> yeah, you can go at weekend. >> you'll do something that weekend. something? >> got a valentine or >> i haven't got a valentine or anyone doing. anyone for doing. >> my three year old will me >> my three year old will get me some flowers. >> what you? some flowers. >> i just you? some flowers. >> i just find you? some flowers. >> i just find the u? some flowers. >> i just find the whole thing terribly commercialised. >> and very about it. >> honest. >> to be honest. >> to be honest. >> love should be >> a bunch of love should be shown single day. shown every single day. basically, exactly got basically, people exactly got three who she loves to three dogs who she loves to bits. >> i do. >> i do. >> i do. >> i haven't even got a dog's got do with this. got to do with this. >> a valentine's, >> you buy them a valentine's, i might valentine's card might get a valentine's card from a dog. >> so lovely idea. >> so lovely idea. >> we'll some >> maybe we'll get some anonymous send you one. >> if you send me one. pip. oh done. we'll do that. >> do um, should we >> we'll do that. um, should we just mention the super just quickly mention the super bowl? haven't bowl? because you haven't got long don't to talk long and we don't want to talk about it this for very long, about it for this for very long, but pictures let's but the pictures are good. let's take at the super bowl take a look at the super bowl overnight . uh, this was usher. overnight. uh, this was usher. andrew has no idea. >> the only i know >> the only usher i know performs reception . performs at a wedding reception. >> usher performed at half time. >> have you heard of the beatles? andrew yeah. >> and of course, who? who everybody says stole the show. uh, not not the winners. uh, the

kansas city. who are the winners? kansas city giants , winners? kansas city giants, wasn't it? yeah. uh, everyone says kansas city chiefs, i apologise. they beat the san francisco 40 niners. and who was there? but taylor swift and everyone's a swift bowl, isn't it? >> she dates one of the players. yeah she dates the player travis isn't it travis kelce . isn't it travis kelce. >> and uh she flew in from the far east in her private jet. yeah. >> so she has been there's actually someone who's been tracking her but she has done hundreds of thousands of miles. she's big she's on her era's big international tour. she was in melbourne think . melbourne i think. >> hold that we'll >> hold that thought. we'll continue top the continue this at the top of the hour. houn >>a houn >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news as . news as. >> hello. they're there. good morning to you. i'm jonathan vautrey here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. quite a changeable week of weather ahead of us, but week of weather ahead of us, but we with low pressure

we start with low pressure situated the of the uk, situated to the north of the uk, winds circling in an anticlockwise direction around. that some quite that means we feed in some quite cool from the cool polar air from the north—west. that air is also streaming in some showers. they'll be most frequent today across districts , across northwestern districts, heavy around at times, even falling as sleet and snow over higher ground areas of scotland, northern ireland, the pennines as if you further towards northern ireland, the pennines as east f you further towards northern ireland, the pennines as east andj further towards northern ireland, the pennines as east and the �*ther towards northern ireland, the pennines as east and the south,»wards northern ireland, the pennines as east and the south, though, the east and the south, though, you're more likely to stay dry. a decent number of sunny intervals day. intervals during the day. temperatures to 11 c, temperatures around 6 to 11 c, but quite cold along the but feeling quite cold along the coast north—west, where coast in the north—west, where we have some blustery winds around transfer around and they'll transfer their northwards we head their way northwards as we head throughout the night. some gales around scotland around coastal areas of scotland over organised bands over time, some organised bands of pushing their of showers just pushing their way during way across the country during tonight. be clear tonight. but there will be clear intervals all of that intervals in between all of that and underneath those starry skies, will drop skies, temperatures will drop off low. single figures off a touch low. single figures for our towns for many of our towns and cities. patchy possible cities. a patchy frost possible in maybe some icy in rural spots, maybe some icy stretches in areas as well stretches in a few areas as well . but for many areas away from scotland , we start a fine scotland, we start off a fine day on tuesday. a lot of sunshine in there as well, but we are going to see the cloud thickening southwest.

thickening from the southwest. outbreaks of rain arriving into southwest england, wales, northern ireland later on as well, turning windier well. well, turning windier as well. but from but they are coming from a southwesterly direction which is feeding in some air, so feeding in some milder air, so double possible in the double digits possible in the southwest. single figures elsewhere, milder air elsewhere, but that milder air is push its across is going to push its way across all the as we head all areas of the uk as we head towards enjoy your towards wednesday. enjoy your day by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers ,

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fighting in the gaza strip as it's announced, two more israeli hostages have been rescued overnight . overnight. >> bibi conversion chaos as it's revealed 1 in 10 residents of the bibby stockholm barge are regularly attending church services and a convert to christianity in record numbers . christianity in record numbers. should the government take religion out of any consideration around asylum claims . claims. >> well, let us know your thoughts on all of our talking points. i think that's a big talking point actually. religion we're going talking about we're going to be talking about this a little later in the programme. it exploited programme. is it being exploited and course it is. and abuse? yes. of course it is. certainly . and you know where certainly is. and you know where to points to you send to send the points to you send them where do send them to them to where do we send them to andrew doyle. >> sinner gb views was that gb news. >> com and he says it 50 billion times week. know there we are. >> but first we're going to get the headlines of the news with

tatiana . tatiana sanchez. >> andrew thank you. your top stories from the gb newsroom this morning. stories from the gb newsroom this morning . the prime minister this morning. the prime minister has been defending his government's action on the economy , insisting it's now economy, insisting it's now turned a corner during a visit to harrogate . he acknowledged to harrogate. he acknowledged it's a difficult few years it's been a difficult few years for households. data published later this week will show whether or not the uk has supped whether or not the uk has slipped into a technical recession . recession. >> the last couple of years have been undoubtedly difficult for the country and economy . the country and the economy. recovering war recovering from covid. the war in ukraine, the impact on energy bills. but at the start of this year , i really believe that the year, i really believe that the economy turned a corner and economy has turned a corner and we're heading in the right direction. can see inflation direction. you can see inflation has from 11% to 4. has come down from 11% to 4. mortgage rates are starting to come down. wages have been rising consistently now because of the economic circumstances are . we've been able are improving. we've been able to taxes . to cut taxes. >> meanwhile, the prime minister's safety of rwanda bill set to face more opposition when

it returns house of lords it returns to the house of lords later , it say a joint later, it say as a joint committee made up of mps and peers, said the laws fundamentally with peers, said the laws funiuk|entally with peers, said the laws funiuk human with peers, said the laws funiuk human rights with peers, said the laws funiuk human rights obligations. the uk human rights obligations. the house of lords will vote on a series of amendments designed to weaken rishi sunak's legislation to deport asylum seekers , fraud offences have seekers, fraud offences have risen sharply in the uk, accounting for 40% of all crime . accounting for 40% of all crime. the government, therefore, is launching a fraud campaign called think fraud , aiming to called think fraud, aiming to help protect people themselves . help protect people themselves. there were 3.3 million offences in the year ending june last yean in the year ending june last year, according to ons crime figures for england and wales. labouris figures for england and wales. labour is accusing the conservatives of being at fault for the almost eight fold increase of cases. security minister tom tugendhat attended a raid in east london this morning. he says the government is doing all it can to minimise fraud. >> well, it's down 13% year on yean >> well, it's down 13% year on year, so that demonstrates , at year, so that demonstrates, at the very least that we're extremely serious about bringing it down. and then the investment in officers, 400 new officers into the national squad into the national fraud squad

and national fraud and the national fraud intelligence that intelligence unit means that what we're is we're what we're doing is we're actually targeting where what we're doing is we're ac really targeting where what we're doing is we're ac really matters.] where what we're doing is we're ac really matters. we're where what we're doing is we're ac really matters. we're also re it really matters. we're also organising organising a national fraud, sorry, an international fraud, sorry, an international fraud conference which will be coming up in march. and all of this is working together with the online fraud charter, which has taken fraud very has already taken fraud very seriously on online platforms and managed to reduce it. >> israeli forces freed two hostages overnight night during a raid in rafah in southern gaza. fernando simon marmon and louis hair were among more than 200 people kidnapped in october last year. the operation to free them came under the cover of airstrikes. the hamas run health ministry says 67 palestinians were killed . in prime minister were killed. in prime minister benjamin netanyahu says pressure will continue until there's a total victory against hamas. both the foreign secretary, lord cameron, and labour leader sir keir starmer have voiced their concerns about the prospect of a military offensive in rafah , military offensive in rafah, where over a million displaced

people are sheltering . and 1 in people are sheltering. and 1 in 5 nhs jobs are now filled by non—eu uk nationals. new nhs data shows a third of doctors and 3 in 10 nurses working in the health service come from overseas. the highest proportion since records began . the overall since records began. the overall figure for nhs england in september last year was at 20.4. that's up from 13% in 2016. health bosses say it reflects how the nhs depends on its talented international workforce , but warns overseas recruitment can't fill vacancies forever . can't fill vacancies forever. for the latest stories , sign up for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. comment alerts . to gb news. comment alerts. >> welcome back to britain's newsroom in the first big election event of the year . at election event of the year. at 8:00 tonight, gb news is hosting a special people's forum with the prime minister himself .

the prime minister himself. >> so rishi sunak will join our very own stephen dixon and take questions from you in our audience on everything from the nhs, the economy to immigration. >> joining us now is our political editor, christopher hope, who is in the north east. for us, christopher. do we know or do you have any prediction about what sort of reception rishi sunak is going to get because he has had quite a tough time of it, hasn't he ? i say in time of it, hasn't he? i say in recent days, but in recent months really . months really. >> yeah, it never rains, but it pours for the pm. we're here in county durham awaiting tonight's show . it'll be fascinating. show. it'll be fascinating. 8 pm. to 9 pm. on gb news the pm hasianed pm. to 9 pm. on gb news the pm has invited questions so far. in a shout out to our viewers, he asked for questions on the economy, immigration and the nhs and anything else. and that's the point. he doesn't know what he's going to be asked. we're going to have two microphones lined where our viewers lined up where our viewers selected by survation to match

voting intention across the country, will ask him the pm, whatever they want. it's live tv , it's unpredictable. it's quite risky. i think for the pm, but i think it's a risk worth taking their 20 points behind in the polls . they want to demonstrate polls. they want to demonstrate the sunak that many of you will see in private, one who is quite passionate about cutting taxes when they can afford it , when they can afford it, passionate about controlling the small boats crossings. of course, lingering sore for course, a lingering sore for this government. so i think it's a risk. but it's a risk worth taking for the government. they may. the questions that might come up. well, i wonder whether they ask about they might ask about why millionaire like him, pays millionaire pays like him, pays just 20% tax, as we found out on friday night when the government released his return. lots of released his tax return. lots of questions . what's your favourite questions. what's your favourite one? pippa and andrew. >> i'm still fascinated by >> well, i'm still fascinated by his fast thing, so i'm intrigued. chris, it's monday, we know normally he goes, he starts the fast at 5:00 on a sunday night. so what does he had since 5:00? he just drank a

glass of water. no tea, no coffee. i'm fascinated. yeah >> you also made a good point, didn't you, about his tax return? yeah what was that question you said? >> well, how does a man whose wife is worth £800 million, he's a considerably rich man in his own right because of all his financial investments. he's only paying financial investments. he's only paying 20 tax. when you think he'd be paying £0.45 tax. >> yeah, those are both great questions. i mean, i've had my cooked breakfast on my trip up here to county durham. i don't know how he survives with no food. i mean it'll be towards the his fast tonight when the end of his fast tonight when he meets viewers. i hope he meets our viewers. i hope he's okay that. but yeah, he's for okay that. but yeah, it's a good question to ask him, but think think he's going it's a good question to ask him, buwantink think he's going it's a good question to ask him, buwantinkdemonstrate going it's a good question to ask him, buwantinkdemonstrate that; it's a good question to ask him, buwantinkdemonstrate that the to want to demonstrate that the main message coming out from number 10 is the plan is number 10 is that the plan is working. they say that towards the of this year, the the end of this year, the economy be better economy should be in better shape it with the shape and don't risk it with the labour party and risk whatever they might plan for government. that's that's the message coming out number out from number 10.

>> also quite like to know out from number 10. >> we've) quite like to know out from number 10. >> we've beene like to know out from number 10. >> we've been talking) know out from number 10. >> we've been talking about' out from number 10. >> we've been talking about it and we've been talking about it this morning about, you know, should boris johnson come back in or should he in some shape or form? should he hit campaign trail? what hit the campaign trail? what does sunak think about does rishi sunak think about that idea? i mean, in the last few days he was saying there is some sort of communication, frequent communication with them, . them, with him. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> the speculation in the weekend papers wasn't a pip, and that's certainly an idea because he's the person who built that coalition in 2019. that now coalition back in 2019. that now appears to be at risk from a resurgent labour party. mr johnson, , is writing resurgent labour party. mr joh books. , is writing resurgent labour party. mr joh books. he's , is writing resurgent labour party. mr joh books. he's going; writing resurgent labour party. mr joh books. he's going to riting resurgent labour party. mr joh books. he's going to be1g his books. he's going to be appearing on gb news at some point in the near future. he is out of politics, not an mp anymore. he may have issues personally with mr sunak over the way he resigned, didn't he, with with sajid javid , which with with sajid javid, which triggered the collapse of his premiership back in 2022. but set that personal issue with the pm against the possibility of a labour government. it may be they can get past their personal

issues and come and campaign. certainly i would have thought many in the tory side would want johnson campaigning with them because can cheer people up because he can cheer people up and that a coalition and unite that that a coalition of support that the tories need to win back another fifth terms in government . in government. >> okay. political editor christopher hope it promises to be fascinating. thanks so much. >> well, the israeli military said overnight it had rescued two hostages from rafah in the south of gaza after a special forces raid. >> the operation was launched alongside a wave of airstrikes, which killed dozens. it comes after warnings from global leaders over israel's planned offensive in the city, where 1.5 million people are sheltering . million people are sheltering. >> well, our reporter charlie peters joins us now in the studio for the latest. charlie what's happened overnight and what's happened overnight and what speculation? and what of the speculation? and talk that he's going to go for a major ground offensive? netanyahu >> well, so last night, around 1 am, special forces soldiers in a.m, special forces soldiers in the israeli defence force entered an apartment in the

centre of rafah, where they successfully rescued two men aged 60 and 70, now being held in the sheba medical centre , in the sheba medical centre, which is just east of tel aviv in central israel. it's only the second successful operation they've launched to rescue hostages through actually military means , raising the military means, raising the number of hostages freed to 113. 110 have been rescued through ceasefire agreements with hamas , ceasefire agreements with hamas, and they've confirmed the death of three through their own military activities. so it is a successful morning for the idf, but it's come at the same time as these airstrikes launch under the cover, and the airstrikes seem to have started within the hour after the beginning of the special forces raid, which was launched shayetet 13, which launched by shayetet 13, which is kind of the israeli equivalent of the special boat service. so in a very elite force, alongside their force, also alongside their internal services . now internal security services. now this has come in the background of significant opprobrium and pre condemnation , as it were,

pre condemnation, as it were, from global leaders , in from global leaders, in particular us president joe biden , who has described any biden, who has described any potential ground offensive as disastrous and urged bibi netanyahu to have a credible plan for the protection of civilians . however, last night's civilians. however, last night's operation was not the beginning of that offensive . if anything, of that offensive. if anything, i think has shown many people, many commentators and analysts in the region that that offensive is not imminent. it's still some time away because they just don't have the means to conduct that operation. and ensure that credible plan. >> if he goes ahead with that ground offensive, he is he then in danger? netanyahu. because support with some countries is already fragile, because people maybe think its response has already been disproportionate . already been disproportionate. it goes ahead with that ground offensive in rafah. could he lose the united states? >> well, that is the big question at the moment, because there's so little places within within south of gaza for within the south of gaza for civilians to be safe and over half of is in and there half of gaza is now in and there is a small area where they were

told to to, weren't they told to go to, weren't they precisely go they were told to head where they are >> that's where they are now. and they're not safe at all. and although had hostages although we had those hostages released overnight, it did come at women and children at a cost. women and children are to have have are suspected to have to have died in that, in that offensive . died in that, in that offensive. and also, if they do do this , and also, if they do do this, then surely those negotiate towards getting more hostages out. and we keep being told there is progress there, that will just go by the wayside, won't it? >> it's unclear to what extent either party is keen on those agreements coming into place throughout this conflict. i think hamas has been more in favour of pushing forward a ceasefire, which is more in favour of their own military and strategic plans. clearly, for hamas , under significant aerial hamas, under significant aerial sea and land attack, a reduction in fighting is in their favour. but at the same time, yes, i mean, we don't know, a precise figure on last night's attacks , figure on last night's attacks, hamas run health ministry saying 67 local press agencies inside the gaza strip saying over 100

casualties and the idf also being quite coy on detailing what those targets were. they said they were significant targets . often i found with targets. often i found with press briefings in the morning after aerial bombardments , after aerial bombardments, they're very specific in terms of the nature of the attacks. often detailing command and control nodes, armouries and other specific locations. but at the moment that detail is lacking . so hopefully over the lacking. so hopefully over the coming hours we'll get more information there. but it is definitely the most significant military operation in rafah since this. since this operation started, some of the people taking shelter in gaza, in rafah in particular, well over a million will have been there twice because they would have fled, gone back home, fled again of the two evacuation routes that were originally opened, when to move when those warnings to move south were issued in october, only one remains open, which is right on the edge of the coastal enclave. there is still that so—called humanitarian zone, as the israelis describe it, on the

coast, but space is very limited and most people are living in tents. this is an acute humanitarian disaster. and lord cameron, the foreign secretary, japan, us, several other japan, the us, several other world leaders warning that if that ground offensive occurs, that ground offensive occurs, that dire situation will only worsen and millions of lives will be in dire straits. >> it's a big step for netanyahu , who whose support at home is very low, and i fear that's why he may go down the route of the ground. because ground. offensive because he thinks raise thinks it may raise his popularity. about popularity. this is about his political survival, his his popularity might be at a difficult situation . difficult situation. >> but speaking to israelis, as ihave >> but speaking to israelis, as i have since the start of this conflict, even those on the left who are very critical of netanyahu, there is an aura of no compromise , and there will be no compromise, and there will be no compromise, and there will be no halt to the offensive until there is total victory. net and yahu himself might be personally very unpopular, but the war in gaza remains a very popular position among the israeli populace. even among arabs, people are keen for this war to continue . they want hamas

continue. they want hamas destroyed . they do see the 7th destroyed. they do see the 7th of october as one of the gravest days in their nation's history, and they want a total victory to ensure it doesn't happen again. the families must be the hostages families must be terrified because if those negotiations have made progress, they could. >> all the negotiations could could collapse and the negotiations could collapse at a time when it's still unclear where many of them are being held. >> and we're hearing last night that attack. so the rescue that this attack. so the rescue operation happened on a second floor apartment the centre of floor apartment in the centre of rafah. it's understood that rafah. but it's understood that dozens of the hostages are spread all over gaza strip, dozens of the hostages are sprea(ofll over gaza strip, dozens of the hostages are sprea(of different gaza strip, dozens of the hostages are sprea(of different groups, strip, dozens of the hostages are sprea(of different groups, aren't many of different groups, aren't they, with different groups and also with different groups and different leaders under different leaders under different circumstances . the different circumstances. the tunnels are clearly much larger and much more in depth. and detailed than they expected . detailed than they expected. it's always been known that gaza is an enclave of two zones. those are the subterranean lair and destroy that tunnel network at all. >> precisely. >> precisely. >> they're not even close. it is a labyrinth. operation a labyrinth. and that operation for many military

for many, for many military analysts saying the clearest analysts are saying the clearest way hostages out in these way to get hostages out in these situations, in these circumstances , is has got to be circumstances, is has got to be through truce and through ceasefire, because rescued ceasefire, because three rescued through operation . it's through military operation. it's only second time four only the second time in four months successfully done months they've successfully done it. numbers you have say it. the numbers you have to say aren't great. >> okay, charlie, thank for >> okay, charlie, thank you for your analysis on all that. okay stay with us here on britain's newsroom . still to come, the newsroom. still to come, the residents of portland are complaining the surge in complaining about the surge in conversion rates to christianity from asylum seekers on board the bibby stockholm. so we're asking , should religion play any part in asylum claims? you're with britain's newsroom on .

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dorset are calling on the government to take religion out of any consideration around asylum claims. it comes after it was revealed 1 in 10 residents of the bibby stockholm are regularly attending church services and are converting to christianity in record numbers. >> the issue has been thrown into sharp relief after it emerged the clapham chemical attacker , abdul ezedi, was attacker, abdul ezedi, was allowed to stay in the country when a priest allegedly confirmed he had converted to christianity . well, our christianity. well, our south—west of england reporter jeff moody has the story . jeff moody has the story. >> in an age where attendance at church is at its lowest ever, the weymouth baptist church is bucking the trend . sunday bucking the trend. sunday services are packed with residents from the bibby stockholm came out of the 300 asylum seekers that are currently on board the bibby stockholm around 30 of them. that's 1 in 10 stockholm around 30 of them. that's1 in 10 are to attend that's 1 in 10 are to attend church services here at the weymouth baptist church. six of them were baptised last weekend alone in a conversion rate

that's almost biblical in scale or a cynical ploy to help their asylum claims. the people of portland think the latter, martin summers is petitioning the government to take issues of religion off the table when it comes to asylum . comes to asylum. >> we are a multicultural country . we welcome all sorts of country. we welcome all sorts of religions . it shouldn't be a religions. it shouldn't be a consideration at all as to what religion they are. >> father david palmer is a catholic priest. he thinks it's wrong to blame the church for these conversions. >> i mean, ultimately, the home office is their job. it's not office is theirjob. it's not the job of the church to say we think this person should or shouldn't stay, um, in this country. >> in a statement, weymouth baptist church told gb news, nearly all the men with whom we have contact became christians in their native countries, all of which are known to be hostile to the christian faith . it is in to the christian faith. it is in no one's interests to have bogus baptisms for such baptisms would compromise the integrity of the

church, would discredit the gospel preach , and worse, gospel we preach, and worse, would the name of would dishonour the name of christ. but gb news has learned that some residents of the bibby stockholm have been told there asylum claims are unlikely to be successful, and portland martyn summers believes this could be dangerous. >> some of these men may have to go back to their own country, where by christianity is persecuted, so is the christian church happy that effectively they could be sending these men back to persecution? they could possibly have blood on their hands. >> it's a complex issue. doctor gavin ashenden is an anglican bishop and former chaplain to the late . queen the late. queen >> the problem then develops when the state decides that becoming a christian or the criteria of religion is going to be instrumental in in asylum claims and immigration claims. but having done that, it doesn't take the trouble to work out

what becoming a christian means or how you can test that. >> in last week's pmqs, tory mp tim loughton launched an attack on the archbishop of canterbury. >> can i ask the prime minister, given that the church of england has now issued secret guidance for clergy supporting asylum applications these damascene applications for these damascene conversions ? who is the church conversions? who is the church accountable to ? and are accountable to? and are taxpayers being scammed by the archbishop ? archbishop? >> the archbishop has hit back , >> the archbishop has hit back, saying it's the job of the government to protect our borders and of the courts to judge asylum cases. the church is called to love mercy and do justice. three bodies, three distinct roles. the home office now says it will launch an investigation into those roles . investigation into those roles. meanwhile, the residents of the bibby stockholm home find themselves in the eye of yet another storm. jeff moody, gb news. >> well, joining us now is human rights lawyer shoaib bashir khan. so she ab what? how can

this be right that people can convert to christianity to stay in the country and they can do it in a matter of weeks. >> yes. i mean, well, it depends what you mean by that. obviously like the archbishop said and the church has been saying, is there a role of anyone is attracted to their religion, to their denomination, to christianity ? denomination, to christianity? it's their role to make that journey easier for them and to welcome to into the faith. so basically it is the job of the home office to be looking into these claims seeing who is these claims and seeing who is credible and who is not, and what motivation that what the motivation behind that is. the government or for is. so for the government or for the or the home the tories or for the home office, home secretary to office, the home secretary to be, know, pushing that duty be, you know, pushing that duty onto others, that's onto others, i think that's ridiculous. really >> so can i just say, isn't it right that lawyers. i'm not saying you particularly, but lawyers in the great human rights industry are encouraging asylum seekers , particularly for asylum seekers, particularly for countries and countries like iran or bangladesh, where it can be very problematic to go back there to convert christianity

there to convert to christianity so they stay in britain. the so they can stay in britain. the times has done an investigation today, just today, effectively saying just that. >> i've not seen any evidence at all. i mean, you know, being a member of the, um , you know, the member of the, um, you know, the industry as you call it, the legal profession, i've never heard of it. i mean, i would seriously , i mean, and like, we seriously, i mean, and like, we saw, you know, a few months ago, people, you know, lawyers who were abusing were actually abusing the system, or system, helping immigrants or asylum seekers to abuse the system. and system. they were caught. and i think right. i think, you think that's right. i think, you know, even within the profession, the home office, the government, profession, the home office, the governmen if any solicitor , regulators, if any solicitor, any lawyer is found doing that. of course, they need to be stopped. but i think it's just a matter profession, you matter with any profession, you know, policemen know, whether it's policemen or doctors or anyone, they be doctors or anyone, they might be people doing things people out there doing things that allowed to that they're not allowed to do. but know, then but obviously, you know, then you them. but the you need to catch them. but the main thing is you can't, um, sort um, denigrate doubt sort of, um, denigrate or doubt or you know, the or dispute, um, you know, the whole class of the asylum seeker just because of the actions. theni just because of the actions. then i mean, i have absolutely no problem about lawyers being investigated. what i do have a problem has

problem is when someone has converted religion , to him converted to a religion, to him being investigated, what are we investigating the church for? someone to the church someone goes to the church chair. someone goes to the church chawe've lawyers on this >> we've had lawyers on this programme saying that only 20 to 30% of asylum claims are genuine, and in his view, about the ones converting to christianity, you said 90% of them false . them are false. >> i mean, yes, well, that's i mean, i'm not sure what that means. i mean , maybe, you know, means. i mean, maybe, you know, we don't need an investigation there. maybe it means maybe he just show the gaming just needs to show up the gaming , the system. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> how is there absolutely >> but how is there absolutely any see, any evidence of that? we see, i'm like government i'm just like this government does time with any does every single time with any issue one case, and issue. there's one case, and then suddenly there's an investigation. everything needs to be, you know, for the past 20 years, seeker years, any asylum seeker was christian to be christian needs to be investigated. what does this even not sure. what even mean? i'm not sure. what exactly are they investigating? why people to why are people converting to christianity church's why are people converting to chri:is?1ity church's why are people converting to chriris? ity church's why are people converting to chriris? i mean church's why are people converting to chriris? i mean , church's why are people converting to chriris? i mean , like church's why are people converting to chriris? i mean , like the|urch's role is? i mean, like the archbishop said, it's the home office's if you think office's role. if you think someone lying or, know, someone is lying or, you know, defrauding the system is the home office's role in that particular to stop that. so particular case to stop that. so what is this whole entire

investigation about ? why are investigation about? why are people converting to christianity ? or why is the christianity? or why is the church allowing people to convert that what convert? is that really what we're questioning? right now? convert? is that really what we'well,estioning? right now? convert? is that really what we'well, we)ning? right now? convert? is that really what we'well, we know right now? convert? is that really what we'well, we know the ht now? convert? is that really what we'well, we know the church’ >> well, we know the church doesn't of the rwanda doesn't approve of the rwanda bill half the bishops bill because half of the bishops in of lords are voting in the house of lords are voting against it at every opportunity. so me quite obvious so it seems to me quite obvious that bishop , that members that bishop, that members of the church conniving with asylum church are conniving with asylum seekers enable them stay here. >> i mean , rightly so. i mean, >> i mean, rightly so. i mean, like the archbishop said, very openly, i think, you know, last yean openly, i think, you know, last year, april, may, whenever year, like april, may, whenever it was, as as it was it was, as soon as it was announced, very openly said, this the teachings of this is against the teachings of christ. would not approve christ. christ would not approve of therefore, church of this. therefore, the church and the archbishops and you know, the archbishops cannot approve and cannot approve of it. and i think that's right. it's very, think that's right. it's a very, very um, and very unchristian, um, and immoral, inhumane scheme. so, of course, mean, not course, i mean, let's not conflate rwanda, which an conflate rwanda, which is an extremely, um , you know, even extremely, um, you know, even for tories , i would say for the tories, i would say extremely immoral . um, but, you extremely immoral. um, but, you know, even generally even besides rwanda. so of course, i mean, you know, like the church has said , we're on the side of has said, we're on the side of humanity. we're on the side of

vulnerable people. if a vulnerable people. if a vulnerable comes to us, vulnerable person comes to us, we help and rightly we will help them. and rightly so. job of church. >> why should religion play any part at all in whether somebody is to stay in this is allowed to stay in this country or not? should it not to be about , uh, country or not? should it not to be about, uh, sorry. >> i mean, i'm not sure i'll be genuinely asking that because on the one hand, people say, you know, so many people, particularly on the right, on the you the the right, say, you know, the refugee convention, laws , refugee convention, other laws, international human, you know, take , take take it back to basics, take it back where it was in the 50s, back to where it was in the 50s, you know, why was it developed? back to where it was in the 50s, ycwas|ow, why was it developed? back to where it was in the 50s, ycwas developedas it developed? back to where it was in the 50s, ycwas developedas it dethe)ped? back to where it was in the 50s, ycwas developedas it dethe after it was developed under the after the war. are we the second world war. are we genuinely saying the jewish people, should not people, you know, we should not have whether the have considered whether the jewish or not? of course, it was have considered whether the jejewish' not? of course, it was have considered whether the jejewish religion. course, it was have considered whether the jejewish religion. the'se, it was have considered whether the jejewish religion. the jewish ras a jewish religion. the jewish community that was at risk, not a particular group of germans. they weren't being attacked because of because they were german. so of course , of course, to course, of course, we want to check. you jewish? if you check. are you jewish? if you are. i mean, obviously many, many more should many millions more people should have been the time. have been saved at the time. that the trouble . at the that was the trouble. at the time, weren't protecting time, we weren't protecting jewish similarly now. jewish people and similarly now. so of course, that's the whole

point the refugee convention point of the refugee convention and refugee law. have look and refugee law. we have to look at people's particular circumstances is an circumstances and religion is an integral, part of integral, intimate part of someone's personality . and of someone's personality. and of course, we need to look at that . course, we need to look at that. >> yeah. but then if it's an intimate, if an intimate intimate, if it is an intimate part of somebody's personality, then how come they can convert to christianity so easily ? to christianity so easily? >> i don't know about easily. obviously, everyone's journey is different, but like we just heard, i think even in your package, i can do a ten week course . oh, i mean, well, a ten course. oh, i mean, well, a ten week course. so it depends what they're learning and it depends how much what their interest. i mean, i don't know. i mean, many of us who born into the of us who are born into the religion, kind of training religion, what kind of training do the religions that do we have in the religions that we rest our we follow for the rest of our lives, much research do lives, or how much research do we do? i still think, you know, ten weeks is probably much more than christian than so many christian people born families. no, born in christian families. no, i'm that even after i'm sure that even after ten weeks, know weeks, they would probably know more many know more than so many of us know about religions so about our own religions after so many how of us have many years, how many of us have done a ten year course in the religion that we to religion that we claim to follow? we'd have

follow? well, sure, we'd have a job out because the job to find out because the priest quoted in times priest quoted in the times today said he converted said of the people he converted the hundreds, he converted 60% of disappeared weeks. >> disappeared because they >> they disappeared because they were were gaming the were they were gaming the system. i want to read you system. and i want to read you very briefly. somebody very briefly. what somebody said, tory mp who very briefly. what somebody said, people tory mp who very briefly. what somebody said, people are tory mp who very briefly. what somebody said, people are being vip who very briefly. what somebody said, people are being blind|o very briefly. what somebody said, people are being blind to says people are being blind to what doing to our what migration is doing to our culture. elites are well protected. britain's poorest have a different experience. that is, the former archbishop have a different experience. th canterbury, rmer archbishop have a different experience. th canterbury, lord archbishop have a different experience. th canterbury, lord careyishop have a different experience. thcanterbury, lord carey ofop of canterbury, lord carey of clifton, who is deeply concerned that christianity has been hijacked by asylum seekers and human rights lawyers . human rights lawyers. >> um, well, i'm not sure. i mean , firstly, where is he mean, firstly, where is he getting those figures from? and why is it suddenly an issue now? is saying just happened in is he saying it just happened in the where has he the past one week? where has he been for the past ten, 20 years? and that's we've just and if that's what we've just been it ? well, been woken up to, it? well, exactly. you know, exactly. i mean, you know, that's the whole point. like i said, that's what happens with the tories, with home the tories, with the home office, with the home secretary. the tories, with the home oftakesvith the home secretary. the tories, with the home oftakesvith extremee secretary. the tories, with the home oftakesvith extremee sec and y. it takes one extreme case and suddenly of suddenly one whole group of people just denigrated and people is just denigrated and abused openly in the media. and that's the whole point. i mean,

where have we been? if, you know, christianity is being attacked and we think the archbishop, the current archbishop, the current archbishop, is taking the side archbishop, the current ar

news headlines with tatiana. >> pip. thank you. it's 1132. >> pip. thank you. it's1132. these are your top stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister has been defending his government's action on the economy, insisting it's now turned a corner during a visit to harrogate. he acknowledged it's been a difficult year for households. data published later this week will show whether or not the uk has slipped into a technical recession. rishi sunak didn't say whether that would end the prospect of further tax cuts . cuts. >> the last couple of years have been undoubtedly difficult for the country and the economy. recovering covid, the war recovering from covid, the war in ukraine, the impact on energy bills. but at the start this bills. but at the start of this yeanl bills. but at the start of this year, i really believe that the economy has turned corner and economy has turned a corner and we're in the right we're heading in the right direction. you see inflation direction. you can see inflation has down from 11% 4. has come down from 11% to 4. mortgage rates are starting to come down. wages have been rising consistently now because of the economic circumstances are improving we've able are improving. we've been able to taxes . to cut taxes. >> meanwhile, the prime

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racist intolerant , racist and intolerant, diversity, equality and inclusivity ideology being pushed within the army, they say this is a threat to our national security, and it's quite incredible what they have to say here, isn't it, tom? >> it is. >> it is. >> it's really emotive language. >> it is. >> iwe'llally emotive language. >> it is. >> iwe'll be emotive language. >> it is. >> iwe'll be debatinglanguage. >> it is. >> iwe'll be debatinglang issue and we'll be debating this issue because there are obviously very strongly either strongly held views on either side on one hand, side on the on the one hand, some say that need some people say that we need a military that is in line with our and uke military that is in line with our and like the sort our values and not like the sort of authoritarian regimes elsewhere in the world. but on the other there are real the other hand, there are real risks people foresee that risks that people foresee that are about in this letter. are spoken about in this letter. the defence secretary has already about this being already spoken about this being sort a pre war situation. we sort of a pre war situation. we need to be prepared for war if it does come and perhaps an army that isn't as regimented that isn't as disciplined, that is more for want of a better word, liberal might not be one that is a fit fighting force. i mean they talk about the russians and iranians and chinese be iranians and chinese will be observing descent into observing our descent into self—hatred obsessing over self—hatred and obsessing over diversity with diversity and inclusion with glee . glee. >> and one of the reservations

these army officers have is that these army officers have is that the standards will lowered in the standards will be lowered in the standards will be lowered in the race to pursue of diversity. yeah we'll take them because they tick the right box. it's really worrying, isn't it ? really worrying, isn't it? >> worrying. and it goes >> very worrying. and it goes deepen >> very worrying. and it goes deeper. racializing deeper. they say racializing everything is disgusting everything is both disgusting and they're very and reprehensible. they're very much entire sort of much anti the entire sort of diversity and inclusion and equality mantra , ideology, equality mantra, ideology, whatever you want to call it . whatever you want to call it. are they right to be? why have they only just woken up to it. >> well this is also in the context, of course, of comments made in the last made by donald trump in the last few days that really do perhaps risk further conflict in this part of the world. we know that in recent years, around half of nato countries haven't spent 2% of their gdp on defence. and donald trump saying that if they're not paying , the united they're not paying, the united states might not commit to that treaty obligation to defend them. is that a welcoming sign for aggressors to invade certain countries in europe? well, that's a big question. >> is he right to call them out? >> is he right to call them out?

>> that could include that would include haven't >> that could include that would incluthe haven't >> that could include that would incluthe 2% haven't >> that could include that would incluthe 2% for haven't >> that could include that would incluthe 2% for years. haven't paid the 2% for years. >> it's france, france, >> no, it's france, france, france. >> no, it's france, france, fra|yeah. >> no, it's france, france, fra|iteah. >> no, it's france, france, fra|it isi. >> no, it's france, france, fra|it is remarkable. some of the >> it is remarkable. some of the richest countries in europe just simply their simply haven't been paying their way, leaning, knowing simply haven't been paying their way, the leaning, knowing simply haven't been paying their way, the americans|, knowing simply haven't been paying their way, the americans|, know defend simply haven't been paying their way, tishould'icans|, know defend simply haven't been paying their way, tishould any s|, know defend simply haven't been paying their way, tishould any shouldvdefend simply haven't been paying their way, tishould any should anything them, should any should anything come. so on the one hand, is it is it right for the americans to play is it right for the americans to play hardball and get these countries more, or is countries to spend more, or is this undermining the whole principle nato to start with, principle of nato to start with, this principle of collective defence? fascinating. >> to big >> we're looking to that big question with our question next big story with our guests . now, though, you are guests. for now, though, you are with newsroom on

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> you're with britain's newsroom, with gb news, with andrew pierce and pip tomson and back today are our panellists. >> former labour adviser matthew laza and author and broadcaster emma woolf. in the studio . emma, emma woolf. in the studio. emma, could you continue your . could you continue your. >> we were mid—rant weren't we? we were. >> you were mid—rant talk about

taylor swift in mid—air. well it is literally in mid—air. let's just quickly recap. >> yeah it was she flew. >> yeah it was she flew. >> i don't know how many thousand miles to to the thousand miles to go to the super to watch her boy super bowl to watch her boy friend play. >> she's mid—tour the >> well, she's mid—tour at the moment. got global moment. she's got this global tour know, tour eras, which is, you know, incredibly popular and is costing her fans hundreds and hundreds of pounds and dollars per . all of this. she's per ticket. all of this. she's currently in melbourne. she flew hundreds of thousands. currently in melbourne. she flew hundreds of thousands . she's hundreds of thousands. she's racked up. there's a fan hers racked up. there's a fan of hers who's actually tracking her flights. racking flights. she's been racking up the miles like nobody's the air. miles like nobody's business. 11,000 miles here, 11,000 miles back from melbourne over to i think the super bowl was in vegas. yeah. >> am i wrong in vegas? >> am i wrong in vegas? >> absolutely. and then she'll have rejoin her tour in have to rejoin her tour in melbourne. all well good if melbourne. all well and good if that's want to do. that's what you want to do. she's got two private jets. she's got two private jets. she's just sold the second one. but prince. like but she is like prince. um, like harry meghan. she's one of harry and meghan. she's one of these who lecture us these who loves to lecture us and hector us all about being green, about saving the planet, about being environmentally friendly. and look at these air miles that she has been racking

up just to go support her up just to go and support her boyfriend the super bowl, boyfriend at the super bowl, which is, you know, you'd argue that's kind family that's hardly a kind of family emergency, but gets loads of emergency, but she gets loads of tv of print tv coverage, loads of print coverage, and fact, there coverage, and in fact, there was more taylor more talk about taylor swift, arguably than the super bowl, american football, than the football. american football, than the footbethis american football? >> is this american football? >> is this american football? >> an american >> she's she's an american american what american football. she's what despite a for despite she's done a lot for american i guess she has by going out him by going out with him just by being they football andrew. >> they call they call our football soccer. do they just. >> mean super >> we don't say i mean super bowl massive, massive thing bowl is a massive, massive thing in states when live out there. >> i mean, the whole world stops for bowl. it's like, for the super bowl. it's like, you i don't know, was you know, i don't know, i was going to say fa cup, but going to say the fa cup, but it's it's like england it's not. it's like when england play it's not. it's like when england play did her blokes team win. >> even bigger. >> yeah. it's even bigger. yes, yes chiefs won yes kansas city chiefs they won 2522 against san francisco. 2522 against the san francisco. and breaks in the super and the ad breaks in the super bowl are the most expensive advertising yeah advertising in the world. yeah but launch big but and they launch big campaigns. the campaigns. they launched the wicked. um, uh, wicked. the wicked, um, uh, movie. trailed yesterday. >> first trailers, probably >> the first trailers, probably some ads for green issues. >> course they are. know, >> of course they are. you know, the just absolute. the hypocrisy is just absolute. >> in reality, i'm not sure. and the hypocrisy is just absolute. >and reality, i'm not sure. and the hypocrisy is just absolute. >and ieality, i'm not sure. and the hypocrisy is just absolute. >and i willy, i'm not sure. and the hypocrisy is just absolute. >and i will have not sure. and the hypocrisy is just absolute.

>and i will have to )t sure. and the hypocrisy is just absolute. >and i will have to findre. and the hypocrisy is just absolute. >and i will have to find the 1nd i and i will have to find the figure, but but the amount of pollution that private airliners contribute is minuscule . contribute is minuscule. >> it doesn't matter, though, does it? it's the message it's sending when you are lecturing and campaigning and saying, people, to um, people, you've got to be, um, fastida about your carbon footprint adds up, pip. >> and when we're being told, you don't so there you know, don't fly. so there are this country who are families in this country who are families in this country who are of not to are being sort of told not to have a summer. >> you're holiday, >> you're easyjet holiday, easyjet , where we're having easyjet, where we're having maybe flights. maybe 1 or 2 flights. >> has rid of a private >> she has got rid of a private jet, taylor swift. >> got her >> she hasn't got rid of her second one. >> she's just got rid of one of them. >> talking of clogging up the air. miles, there's a well it's air. miles, there's a well it's a it's it shouldn't make us smile, but of does in in smile, but it sort of does in in the today, which a the daily star today, which is a devoted football andy devoted football fan. andy bebington, from the bebington, who is a from the nonh bebington, who is a from the north west, he's moved to china for season ticket for work. he was a season ticket holder years bolton holder for 15 years at bolton wanderers. so wanderers. he loves his club so much. miles to see much. he flew 8000 miles to see them play away at cambridge. >> jet, not in >> not in a private jet, not in a private jet. >> fair to andy, and >> to be fair to andy, um, and with dad, uh, £800. it cost with his dad, uh, £800. it cost him. got and he saw him. he got there and he saw just nine, minutes of play

just nine, ten minutes of play before was called with before it was called off with waterlogged pitch . so poor andy, waterlogged pitch. so poor andy, he had no desperate 8000 miles for nine minutes of cambridge versus bolton, which, even as a football fan i know is probably the play probably as wet as the play was probably as wet as the play was probably as wet as the pitch. >> and what division are >> right. and what division are they in? >> right. and what division are thei in? know, don't test me >> i don't know, don't test me on several down right. on that. but several down right. they've all got new names since am have yes. they're they've all got new names since am called e yes. they're they've all got new names since am called leagueyes. they're they've all got new names since am called league bigotted,re they've all got new names since am called league bigotted, but all called league bigotted, but they're not top flight. all called league bigotted, but the right.t top flight. all called league bigotted, but the right. okay. top flight. >> right. okay. >> right. okay. >> so i think you'll be >> well, so i think you'll be doing that again. no, poor andy, we all have to just take a moment now reflect. but, you moment now to reflect. but, you know, a bit like if you know, it's a bit like if you turn swift tour turn up to a taylor swift tour and wasn't there, she at and she wasn't there, she was at the super bowl. you'd be gutted. yeah, yeah. >> i say she goes back >> and then i say she goes back straight away melbourne. straight away to melbourne. then she to she flies back to melbourne to rejoin the tour. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, how many time zones >> yeah. >> ishe an, how many time zones >> yeah. >> ishe an, h> yeah. >> ishe an, h> that would be real bad. >> that would be real bad. >> absolutely. but have >> absolutely. but you have to remember >> absolutely. but you have to remembelike the rest of us or economy like the rest of us or even business. they are flying in, planes which have in, you know, planes which have bedrooms, which showers, bedrooms, which have showers, which. so actually when you're flying you can catch up, you can

sleep, you can it's not flying you can catch up, you can slee us/ou can it's not flying you can catch up, you can slee us travelling it's not flying you can catch up, you can slee us travelling through ot flying you can catch up, you can slee us travelling through the like us travelling through the night and day and night again. yeah. >> gone off taylor swift >> i've gone off taylor swift ever she ever since she, uh. well she appeared ignore celine dion, appeared to ignore celine dion, didn't at the grammys didn't she? at the grammys last week, did she grabbed her trophy, was trophy, which celine dion was presenting. just grabbed it off her and just. mean, celine her and just. i mean, celine dion, legend. dion, a legend. >> knows who i do. >> even andrew knows who i do. >> even andrew knows who i do. >> do, who taylor swift >> i do, i know who taylor swift is. couldn't tell is. but i couldn't tell you a single song she's ever sung or a single song she's ever sung or a single hit record, and i don't know she's popular. know why she's so popular. >> that shall >> well, on that note, shall we move on the prospect of world war? >> we're going to have go to >> we're going to have to go to a break. >> there lots still to >> there is lots more still to come, we are talking come, including we are talking about president donald and come, including we are talking abocommentsit donald and come, including we are talking abocomments aboutald and come, including we are talking abocomments aboutald formerj his comments about nato former president . president. >> yes, you're not president yet, but he might be by the end

>> you're listening to gb news radio . welcome radio. welcome back. >> still with us is former labour adviser, matthew laza and author and broadcaster emma wolf. we were talking about former president donald trump , former president donald trump, who's suggested matthew , that

who's suggested matthew, that the us would not protect nato. and the nato chief has said that that undermines all of our security. absolutely. >> including, crucially, the security the united states . i security the united states. i think he's played a blinder, just to people so just to remind people that. so over weekend, president over the weekend, president trump effectively seemed to trump has effectively seemed to encourage russia bomb any encourage russia to bomb any nato that hadn't paid nato member that hadn't paid your dues. >> former president, former president. >> they calling. >> well, they still calling. >> well, they still calling. >> they still call him. >> they still call him. >> you still call him mr president america. yeah. president in america. yeah. you're forever. even you're a president forever. even though okay? though we don't pay that. okay? we american. so the we won't be american. so so the donald, call him the donald, let's call him the donald, let's call him the donald, that you donald, has said that if you don't dues in nato, and don't pay your dues in nato, and that's of that's that's the sort of that's a target your gdp, which, target of 2% of your gdp, which, frankly, the european target of 2% of your gdp, which, franklmembers, the european target of 2% of your gdp, which, franklmembers, particularlyn nato members, particularly germany, which the largest germany, which is the largest economy doesn't economy in europe, doesn't meet. he said that any large nato country pay up , he country who doesn't pay up, he would encourage anybody to come and um, not say and bomb them. um, not even say that, wouldn't go and bomb them. um, not even say th.their wouldn't go and bomb them. um, not even say th.their protection, wouldn't go and bomb them. um, not even say th.their protection, butrldn't go and bomb them. um, not even say th.their protection, but hel't go to their protection, but he would sort of actively, would actually sort of actively, uh, , know, encourage them uh, um, you know, encourage them to obviously uh, um, you know, encourage them to caused obviously uh, um, you know, encourage them to caused consternation called caused consternation across across the world. and as you say , jens stoltenberg, the you say, jens stoltenberg, the nato secretary—general has said that imperils, uh , the us

that imperils, uh, the us security and it's actually the exact quote, was the aggressor could do whatever the hell they want. >> exactly. yeah >> exactly. yeah >> we were attacked by you. don't pay your delinquent. only seven out of the 30 countries are paying. yeah and it's. look, it's particularly because he did say large its particular attack on germany, which is the sort of biggest offender in that we only just pay, uh , spend 2. also just pay, uh, spend 2. also france defence. just pay, uh, spend 2. also fra| france defence. just pay, uh, spend 2. also fra|france don't:e. just pay, uh, spend 2. also fra|france don't pay their 2. no >> france don't pay their 2. no but look, this is a very, very popular america. i think popular view in america. i think trump absolutely has if trump absolutely has a point. if nato if nato motto , all for nato if the nato motto, all for one and one for all means anything, then people need to what said is you've got. what trump said is you've got. >> but was it expressed in that exactly? >> it was exactly. >> it was exactly. >> it was exactly. >> i agree with you that people should expressed should pay. it was expressed badly. >> actually got facts >> trump actually got his facts bungled. spoken bungled. he said he'd spoken to the president of a large country. he actually country. he was actually speaking der speaking to ursula von der euanne speaking to ursula von der elianne was talking elianne when he was talking a very nice when he had. yes, yes , very nice when he had. yes, yes, yes. doesn't know yes. but he doesn't know what he's about. but we're he's talking about. but if we're going then that going to be united, then that needs united. what trump needs to mean united. what trump said you've to pay your

said is you've got to pay your bills. and i think he has a point. lot of point. and i think a lot of people america probably people in america probably pretty everybody will agree pretty much everybody will agree with that in with him. i think that now in time of such international time of such great international tension, ukraine, we need a stronger nato than ever to exactly the key principle of nato is, as says, is one nato is, as emma says, is one for all, all for one. >> i agree that people >> now, i agree that people should pay their dues. >> america it? should pay their dues. >> shouldn'tnerica it? should pay their dues. >> shouldn'tnershouldn'tt? should pay their dues. >> shouldn'tnershouldn't it >> shouldn't it, shouldn't it shouldn't pick up the whole bill and its and europe needs to increase its defence fair defence capability. to be fair to has significantly to germany, it has significantly creased defence spending under the government, the under the new government, although they're having problems actually been the >> in terms it's been the wealthiest country europe. wealthiest country in europe. >> it should have >> yeah. and it should have spent have spent spent it should have spent decades. should have spent decades. it should have spent more it's never more on defence. and it's never met target. partly met the 2% target. partly obviously their historical reasons in reasons why defence spending in germany is particularly controversial. germany is particularly controv at;ial. germany is particularly controv at a l. germany is particularly controv at a time germany is particularly controvat a time this cannot at a time of this instability, effectively ask the enemy to come and to come and bomb allies. because tell bomb your allies. because i tell you your you what, it's putting your backs mean, like backs up. i mean, people like poland, probably poland, which is probably the most pro—american most pro—european, pro—american country , um, has said country in the eu, um, has said that it it's a concrete commitment undermines the credibility of ally country means weakening the entirety of

nato. they'll be all right, though, because they pay their 2. the 2. and the 2. they do pay the 2. and the tiny country like estonia pay even more because they're the most got to most worried and he's got to stop that pays the i stop greece that pays the most i think because he's think greece because he's worried economic worried about turkey economic problems turkey is so problems because turkey is so close. >> but yes. close. >> but it'ses. close. >> but it's ready for the war with turkey. >> white reaction is >> the white house reaction is really interesting. called really interesting. they called it unhinged it appalling and unhinged comments because of course they're delighted. this gets the focus biden, focus off a president biden, another president who is really in way . and they're very, in a bad way. and they're very, very worried about how to respond that. they're respond to that. so they're really going trump. this. really going for trump. on this. >> as see, the new >> and as you see, even the new york that bastion of the york times, that bastion of the liberal liberal thought, liberal wing liberal thought, has done three quarter skating pieces about biden because they now really worried that he cannot do it . yeah. cannot do it. yeah. >> it's tragic. i mean, that's i mean, what a fading away. the whole should be whole of the world should be worried that you've got you've got somebody got a contest between somebody who's whose memory who's clearly whose memory is failing, have failing, who we should all have sympathy also sympathy for. but he should also acknowledge be acknowledge that he shouldn't be in that role going forward. >> sympathy for >> i don't have sympathy for someone concede what's >> i don't have sympathy for somecon. concede what's going on. >> well, think you should >> well, i think you should concede declare that this

it. >> this h- h— h it. my four years and >> this is it. my four years and i'm standing you should i'm standing down and you should do that somewhere else. >> the choice versus versus >> the choice versus him versus trump, been trump, who not only has he been attacking but attacking nato this week, but he's playing politics in he's been playing politics in the congress he's the congress and he's effectively people effectively called on people to block they've effectively called on people to block between they've effectively called on people to blockbetween the they've effectively called on people to block between the republicans and done between the republicans and the the the democrats to free up the money for ukraine and ukraine is about ammunition money for ukraine and ukraine is aboralso ammunition money for ukraine and ukraine is aboralso trump. ammunition and also trump. >> trump could be a convicted criminal by the time the criminal by the time of the election, well. criminal by the time of the eleywell, well. criminal by the time of the eleywell, he'llell. criminal by the time of the eleywell, he'll pardon himself. >> well, he'll pardon himself. i mean. well, he will. yeah he just the supreme court just will. and the supreme court will getting will probably stop it getting that will probably stop it getting tha well yeah, i mean he keeps >> well yeah, i mean he keeps his it's and just his people, but it's and just so polarised and rest of the polarised. and the rest of the world is the one that's going to suffer, seen with suffer, as we've seen here with these nato, with the rest of nato. should very nato. so we should all be very worried for november. what a cheery no. cheery note. oh, no. >> do think we've got >> do you think we've got problems i know, problems here? yes i know, are you watching tonight ? you watching the forum tonight? >> 8 pm. will be watching the >> 8 pm. i will be watching the forum tonight. pm of course we'll forum tonight. pm of course we'we'll be tuning >> we'll be tuning in. >> we'll be tuning in. >> you'll be tuning to >> hope you'll be tuning in to and in us tomorrow and tune to in us tomorrow again. it's to have again. it's been to great have your that's from your company. that's it from britain's newsroom. see you tomorrow. by—election tomorrow. that by—election controversy . controversy. >> we'll be diving deep into

controversial comments surrounding one of the upcoming by elections in this country. what on earth has happened? >> and are we less safe because our armed forces are too concentrated on diversity, inclusion and general wokery these senior military officers certainly think so that our national security could be at risk. we'll be having that debate in just one moment after the all important . weather. the all important. weather. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers spot answers of up. boxt boilers spot answers of weather on gb news news. hello alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather update. >> there will be a few showers around for some of us today and it is also quite breezy. >> that's because we have an area of low pressure just to the northwest of the uk , and around northwest of the uk, and around this we are bringing some strong winds and the direction that those from, those winds are coming from, from west northwest is a bit from the west northwest is a bit of a chilly one, so chilly of a chilly one, so a chilly feel to as well. plenty feel to things as well. plenty of skies for most

of sunny skies though for most of sunny skies though for most of places seeing of us today. many places seeing any earlier showers dying out though parts of northern though across parts of northern ireland and western scotland in particular. few showers particular. quite a few showers likely some of these likely here and some of these could be wintry over the higher ground, snow quite ground, some sleet or snow quite possible. a bit of possible. like i said, a bit of a chilly feel, especially in those brisk, blustery winds. but we likely highs of we are likely to see highs of around 11 celsius towards around 10 or 11 celsius towards the showery outbreaks as >> further showery outbreaks as we go through this evening and overnight, across much we go through this evening and ov scotland across much we go through this evening and ov scotland and across much we go through this evening and ov scotland and then across much we go through this evening and ov scotland and then feedingiuch of scotland and then feeding into of and wales into parts of england and wales as through the night as as we go through the night as well. as we go through the night as welsome clear skies in between >> some clear skies in between the spells of showery rain and as a result , the spells of showery rain and as a result, we are going to see temperatures taking a bit of a dip. could see a patchy frost , dip. could see a patchy frost, even some icy patches, particularly towards the north, slightly south particularly towards the north, sliywe .y south particularly towards the north, sliywe.y through south particularly towards the north, sliywe.y through tuesdathh particularly towards the north, sliywe.y through tuesday .:h particularly towards the north, sliywe.y through tuesday . then as we go through tuesday. then we are going to see a spell of wet weather feeding its way up from the southwest. so turning increasingly wet across parts of west england, west and southwestern england, wales as go through wales. and then as we go through into the afternoon, more rain spreading way further spreading its way further northwards. heavy outbreaks northwards. some heavy outbreaks of rain in association with this and some blustery winds

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