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rochdale well today. they've now suspended another parliamentary candidate due to comments about israel . i'm candidate due to comments about israel. i'm asking, does labour still have an issue with
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anti—semitism .7 and do you think anti—semitism.7 and do you think we need tougher penalties for those employers who were legally employ illegal migrants .7 i can employ illegal migrants? i can tell you some of the sums of money involved here. it's pretty eye—watering, but is it enough or not? and get this right, a tv show has been commissioned on channel 4, which will see a group of virgins sent to a tropical island together for reasons which, you know, it's a tee time, so i'll leave that to your imagination. but i'm asking, is there really any need for this kind of stuff . yes. for this kind of stuff. yes. well, i've got all of that and lots more to come in the next houn lots more to come in the next hour. but before we get stuck in, let's cross live to polly middlehurst for tonight's latest news headlines . news headlines. >> michelle, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that a former labour mp who is seeking re—election
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has been administratively suspended from the labour party pending an investigation over anti—semitic remarks he allegedly made at a party meeting. the jewish labour movement has strongly condemned comments. graham jones reportedly made about british israeli jews , saying they were israeli jews, saying they were appalling and unacceptable, demanding a zero tolerance approach to anti—semitism . um, approach to anti—semitism. um, it's now calling for a full investigation and that comes after sir keir starmer withdrew his party support for another candidate , azhar ali, who was candidate, azhar ali, who was recorded suggesting israel had used the hamas attack as a pretext to invade gaza. sir keir insists his party has changed and under his leadership, well, those comments were appalling and that is why we took decisive action. >> it is virtually unprecedented to withdraw support for a candidate in the way that i withdrew support for this candidate yesterday. that's what a changed labour party is all about. and of course , any about. and of course, any allegation will be fully
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investigated by the party. but the important thing is the decisive action that's been taken to make it absolutely clear that this is a changed labour party . labour party. >> sir keir starmer, well, the government's looking closely at the option of bringing injured children from gaza to the uk for medical treatment. lord cameron's revealed there is the possibility of transfer of some children to british hospitals , children to british hospitals, including great ormond street in london, under a scheme called project pure hope. however . the project pure hope. however. the foreign secretary reiterated to the house of lords today that initial efforts are focussed on providing medical assistance to palestinians in the region itself . three people have been itself. three people have been found guilty of a terror offence by displaying images of paragliders at a pro palestinian march in central london. haber aleek pauline . lee and kunda and aleek pauline. lee and kunda and amadou olayinka taiwo displayed the images just a week after hamas militants used paragliders to enter israel. in october, the
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crown prosecution service argued the trio's actions amounted to the trio's actions amounted to the glorification of hamas, but lawyers for the group suggested they were actually displaying images of a parachute emoji . images of a parachute emoji. employers and landlords who allow illegal immigrants to work for them or rent their properties will face much tougher penalties from today. the fines for such actions have risen to a maximum of £45,000 per worker for a first breach. landlords also facing increased penalties of £5,000 per lodger and £10,000 per occupier for a first breach. ministers believe the crackdown will help reduce the crackdown will help reduce the incentives for illegal migrants crossing into the uk . migrants crossing into the uk. meanwhile, wage growth has slowed in the uk, with new figures showing it's at its lowest level for more than a yeah lowest level for more than a year. the ons saying job vacancies fell back once again as britain's job market cooled . as britain's job market cooled. on average. regular pay excluding bonuses, fell to 6.2%
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in the final three months of last year. that's compared with the same period a year before andifs the same period a year before and it's the slowest growth since october 2022. but if you take price rises into account, pay take price rises into account, pay has actually gone up by 1.9. now protests have been taking place in birmingham over plans to cut funding for the city's youth services and cut them in half. protesters marched from the city centre library to the council house, calling for the services to stay. 12 of birmingham's youth centres are in the top 20% of the most depnved in the top 20% of the most deprived areas of the country. league clinton, from the unite union, says it makes no sense to cut something that protects the next generation. >> we think it's vital to fight for these areas as the children of the future. at the end of the day, and if the council think it's easy pickings to come and diminish the area of the children's services because the youths got youths obviously have got no voice, they need think voice, then they need to think again. we only need to look at the event today to realise that the event today to realise that
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the to up the people are here to stand up and stand up for and we need to stand up for these services. they're vital to these services. they're vital to the city and the surrounding areas and thousands of jobs are the city and the surrounding ar> as the uk arm of body >> as the uk arm of the body shop enters administration, the retailer running than 200 shop enters administration, the retaile across ng than 200 shop enters administration, the retaile across the than 200 shop enters administration, the retaile across the but n 200 shops across the uk. but insolvency experts have been called in. they're saying they will consider all options to find a way forward for the business. after years of financial struggles, the high street chain will continue to trade through retail outlets and online. for now, the very sad news in the last half hour that veteran bbc broadcaster steve wright, who presented radio 1 and radio two programmes for more than four decades, has died at the age of 69. his family confirmed his death in a statement, making the announcement with deep sorrow and profound regret . announcement with deep sorrow and profound regret. bbc director—general tim davie described him as a truly wonderful broadcaster and the ultimate professional . online ultimate professional. online tributes have also flooded in from fellow djs sara cox, simon
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mayo, ken bruce and tony blackburn, as well as from the lyricist tim rice, who said he was top notch from start to finish in his long career. steve wright, who's died today at the age of 69 for the very latest gb news alerts, do scan the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com slash alerts . gb news.com slash alerts. >> gbnews.com slash alerts. >> thank you very much for that, polly and michelle dewberry. i'm with you guys till 7:00 tonight alongside me. i've got the conservative life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan, and the visiting professor at staffordshire university, tom buick. good evening, staffordshire university, tom buick. good evening , gentlemen, buick. good evening, gentlemen, and you know the drill, don't you, on this programme it is not just about us three. it's very much about you guys at home as well. what's on your mind tonight? there is so much i want tonight? there is so much i want to you tonight. did to discuss with you tonight. did you that story in the you hear that story in the bulletins just then? found it bulletins just then? i found it quite david quite interesting. david cameron. we could
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cameron. they're saying we could perhaps look to relocate date palestinian to get help palestinian children to get help here in hospitals such as great ormond street. what do you think to that? i'll come to that a little bit later on in the programme. i've found it fascinating. have you got a child perhaps on the waiting list for those hospitals? how are you getting on, getting access you access to the care that you need? think it's right need? do you think it's right and proper that actually these children that in dire children that are in dire straits do indeed, straits in palestine do indeed, uh, the that they need uh, get the help that they need in country ? a fascinating in this country? a fascinating topic get that and topic we'll get into that and more the end of the more before the end of the programme. at news. programme. gb views at gb news. com you can reach me. of com is how you can reach me. of course you can tweet me at gb news news as well. you also heard the bulletin there the heard in the bulletin there the very news about the steve very sad news about the dj steve wright , who was very sadly wright, who was very sadly passed away aged 69. that's no age really, is it, daniel? there's tributes as well, coming in thick . and fast from all the in thick. and fast from all the people that he touched. a lot of viewers as well. on gb news getting in touch. uh, to share their fond memories. he uh, it seems will be very, very sadly
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missed. >> yeah, it's very sad and it is too young for someone to die. um, and he'll he's obviously um, and he'll be he's obviously very, very much missed and was a much loved figure indeed. but he could years, could have gone for years, perhaps popular host. perhaps as a popular host. >> yeah. and he of course. m.b.e. um, for his services to radio. >> tom, i was genuinely choked when that alert just a few when i saw that alert just a few minutes least because, minutes ago, not least because, well , i minutes ago, not least because, well, i mean, like a lot of people watching this show, i mean, i grew up listening to steve wright in the afternoon on my back school run, my way back on school run, actually in the 1980s. oh, are you showing your age? am you showing your age? i am showing and course, showing my age. and of course, more his love songs more latterly his his love songs on sunday, which again on a sunday, which again always takes those heart takes me back to those heart throb days. but no, look, i think that word national treasure is often overused, but i think this is an extraordinary broadcaster who does deserve that kind of epithet . that kind of epithet. >> yeah, well, very sad news there. that's a dj steve wright may rest in peace. now uh, last night, of course, we were out and about, weren't we? we were in in county in the north—east in county durham, be precise. uh, we durham, to be precise. uh, we were there. i got to say , um, i
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were there. i got to say, um, i found it very interesting. i was in the room, uh, whilst rishi sunak was doing his thing. in the room, uh, whilst rishi sunak was doing his thing . i've sunak was doing his thing. i've been asking you guys what you made to it. i'm assuming that you watched . if not, what were you watched. if not, what were you watched. if not, what were you doing? where else possibly could you have been last night at 8 other than gb news? i at 8 pm? other than gb news? i shall ask. i shall start with you, daniel . shall ask. i shall start with you, daniel. you die you, daniel. um. you know, die hard tory guy. you're a very loyal tory. i've got to say, um, when you and i've got to assume that you're what? i'm assuming that you're what? i'm assuming that you've all watched this. oh, yeah. so how did you think rishi sunak came across? >> look, rishi sunak a >> look, rishi sunak is a decent, sincere person, decent, honest, sincere person, and came across authentically and he came across authentically , thought, as the sort of , i thought, as the sort of person in interview person he is. in that interview yesterday , and people had yesterday, and people had a chance to see him as he really is. obviously they've got to make their up between him make their mind up between him and keir starmer. seen and sir keir starmer. we've seen and sir keir starmer. we've seen a of sir keir today. a lot of sir keir starmer today. we'll that a bit we'll be discussing that a bit later. um, as to whether he's the best person to be prime minister or keir starmer is, but i came across well and i think he came across well and i think he came across well and i with people in i think he dealt with people in
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a a very human and engaging a very a very human and engaging way . way. >> well, we'll come back to some specific clips and analyse those in a sec. but what did you make to it? tom? >> michelle daniel a >> michelle daniel is a thoroughly decent but thoroughly decent guy, but i think sitting there having think he's sitting there having to defend the indefensible. i mean, saw last night from mean, what i saw last night from beginning was a beginning to end really was a textbook, uh, manual in sophistry and i mean, he sophistry and spin. i mean, he never really answered the questions from the audience. he wasn't particularly that tested, ihave wasn't particularly that tested, i have to say, on some the i have to say, on some of the key that said, our key issues. that said, for our democratic process, it was good to news being able to air to see gb news being able to air the prime minister in answering those questions from the electorate. but i think the fact is, as we face this general election , the british people are election, the british people are not mugs. they look at the last five years, they elected a prime minister to get brexit done and level up the country. uh, a tory prime minister that was elected by the membership was ousted after only a few weeks. and we've got an unelected prime minister now who's obviously
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seeking the support of the electorate. but the way in which he's doing that with his five pledges, he's only met one of those. and that's only thanks to the of england for you the bank of england for you know, racking mortgage know, racking up mortgage interest times. interest rates 14 times. >> dave says, michelle, >> um, dave says, michelle, i bet you won't this email bet you won't read this email out i want to say out because i want to say i didn't bother watching it. why? he because basically he's he says, because basically he's got no interest in rishi sunak. he that he's lied one too he feels that he's lied one too many times already. um they go, dave, i did read it out. jenny says. michelle rishi sunak sounded to me like someone who was hoping to improve on was there hoping to improve on the mess left by an opposition government, than someone the mess left by an opposition gove has ent, than someone the mess left by an opposition gove has contributed:han someone the mess left by an opposition gove has contributed ton someone the mess left by an opposition gove has contributed to the meone who has contributed to the current state of this current broken state of this country. you say . that rishi country. you say. that rishi sunak was kind of the rishi sunak was kind of the rishi sunak that, you know . sunak that, you know. >> so, um, i don't know. rishi sunak. >> oh well, you expect him to be so professional . ah, at times so professional. ah, at times i do confess i found him a little bit dull and i was there . i was bit dull and i was there. i was in the room. i do confess, i was
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actually up and i was at the back, so maybe it was just where i was positioned. but i found his energy. i didn't find him that charismatic. i think he's a nice enough guy, and i think he's got the best of intentions. but have to have but i would have liked to have seen be a little bit more seen him be a little bit more kind of dynamic, a little bit more. >> yeah, we all want to see that. i mean, i didn't say that he dynamic or full of he was dynamic or full of charisma. i said that he was authentic. i said, is what authentic. i said, this is what you see is what you see, what you see is what you're getting. okay. that's that the point was making. that was the point i was making. and have to make your mind and you have to make your mind up. the person you want up. is this the person you want as is it the as prime minister or is it the keir starmer? i'm not saying he's somebody else. i'm not going to on here and say going to come on here and say that a different that rishi sunak is a different person. we'd all like to see person. so we'd all like to see him being more dynamic, getting out getting messages out there, getting messages across convincing way across in a convincing way rather off rather than just reeling off fivei'll tell you the bit of, um, >> i'll tell you the bit of, um, last night spoken that i did personally find quite dynamic. did part? uh, when did you see this part? uh, when the jumped up and the chap jumped up and confronted sunak about confronted rishi sunak about vaccine injury? a little reminder for you when look reminder for you when you look into my eyes. >> n
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into my eyes. >> i want you to >> rishi sunak. i want you to look the pain, the trauma and look at the pain, the trauma and the i have in my eyes. we the regret i have in my eyes. we have been left with no help at all, not only i in here this all, not only am i in here this vaccine and there's another man over there life has been over there whose life has been ruined by that vaccine. ruined by that covid 19 vaccine. why who are in why are the people who are in charge , who told us all to do charge, who told us all to do the right thing, have left us all tied up and left me and the thousands and the tens of thousands and the tens of thousands in this country. >> so there is a vaccine compensation scheme that's in place , as you alluded to in the place, as you alluded to in the nhs. obviously everyone individually will work through their cases. it's difficult for me to comment on anyone's individual case. i'm sure . individual case. i'm sure. >> so as i was , um, uh, almost >> so as i was, um, uh, almost cheering that fella on, you know, because i do think that is such an important topic. and i do feel really sorry for all of the people who've had their lives adversely affected by the vaccine haven't vaccine because they haven't been given the respect which they deserve. they haven't been given the attention the given the attention and the focus support. focus and the financial support. in actually, they've been in fact, actually, they've been mocked listen mocked and ridiculed. i listen to on good morning to someone, uh, on good morning
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britain that britain this morning using that quy's britain this morning using that guy's calling the guy's example and calling the fella anti—vaxxer . well, how fella an anti—vaxxer. well, how on earth can he be an anti—vax sir, if he's apparently been harmed having vaccine? it harmed by having the vaccine? it makes . anyway, how do makes no sense. anyway, how do you think rishi sunak dealt with that? >> well, i think, you know, just on this question of on the merits of the which are merits of the case, which are obviously to personal a obviously deeply to personal a number of people who've been affected. the affected. but just on the question presentation and as question of presentation and as you say, how did he deal with that? if he'd been bill that? i mean, if he'd been bill clinton, he'd probably been across now with his across the room by now with his arm the guy. yeah, there arm around the guy. yeah, there would know, that would have been, you know, that was expression empathy, of was an expression of empathy, of somehow that. and now somehow that that. and now whether that from bill whether you take that from bill clinton, people clinton, i mean, some people found bill clinton. that was far clinton, i mean, some people fourmuch. clinton. that was far clinton, i mean, some people fourmuch of inton. that was far clinton, i mean, some people fourmuch of that. that was far clinton, i mean, some people fourmuch of that. andt was far clinton, i mean, some people fourmuch of that. and so as far clinton, i mean, some people fourmuch of that. and so on.ar clinton, i mean, some people fourmuch of that. and so on. you too much of that. and so on. you didn't like that but didn't like that at all. but but, not at the bill but, but he's not at the bill clinton end of empathetic engagement with people is rishi. but he gave a very straight answer. first of all, he can't say on television about an individual's case. he's not informed about. he can't comment. >> but you don't need to be involved in individual's case involved in an individual's case to on the principle of
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to comment on the principle of the vaccine damage payment scheme, that there scheme, he was saying that there is vaccine compensation is a vaccine compensation scheme, didn't scheme, which frankly, i didn't even said it. even know until he said it. >> a vaccine >> there is a vaccine compensation scheme and the system working, that's compensation scheme and the systehe working, that's compensation scheme and the systehe wants king, that's compensation scheme and the systehe wants to g, that's compensation scheme and the systehe wants to see that's compensation scheme and the systehe wants to see the 1at's compensation scheme and the systehe wants to see the world. how he wants to see the world. the world is to create systems that work. yeah, well, not that work. yeah, well, it's not working anyway. >> on. >> but go on. >> but go on. >> you say though, no >> as you say though, no empathy, no emotional intelligence. he's the prime minister of our country. he could said there and then could have said there and then on news that as the prime on gb news that as the prime minister call minister he's going to call a pubuc minister he's going to call a public inquiry into the vaccine . public inquiry into the vaccine. there is a public inquiry. well, you know, he could have focussed it specifically around vaccine damage. he could look at damage. he could also look at the 100 grand limit currently on those that suffer from the vaccine and look to i think it's a bit more than that, but it's certainly not enough. >> it's not. yeah. no. um, and let's another thing that caught my and the way, just on my eye and by the way, just on that final point, rishi sunak said aware that people said he wasn't aware that people had been silenced, had had been silenced, that had raised those concerns. well, unless he's been living under a rock, how can you not be aware that those people are being silenced anyway, i thought there
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was strange kind of was a strange kind of egotistical dynamic on one of was a strange kind of ego aspects. ynamic on one of was a strange kind of ego aspects. ynami< someone )f was a strange kind of ego aspects. ynami> and if you don't vote me, then you're going to get him. it's kind of like, excuse me, there are a lot of, um, options out there for people. and actually, if people were really serious an alternate serious about an alternate whoever alternate is and whoever that alternate is and did masse great did so en masse in great numbers, then actually that wouldn't situation at all. >> yeah , but what he's not >> yeah, but what he's not acknowledging, of course, is that that 80 seat majority, that that that 80 seat majority, which johnson won back in which boris johnson won back in 2019, thanks to the former 2019, was thanks to the former reform party, the brexit party,
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standing down in 317 seats. >> so the sheer arrogance of it, when actually arguably this government owes its huge majority to a version of the reform party that was obviously led by nigel farage. >> hmm. um, and when i did actually think that, i saw, uh, rishi relatively passionate, was this, um, you probably saw it. anyway, the interaction about the private school thing. listen you know, i get attacked by keir starmer because of where i went to school. >> and i said to him once, actually, i said, you're not really attacking me. you're attacking and you're attacking my parents and you're attacking my parents and you're attacking everybody like them. that works hard to aspire for a better life for them and their family. i think that's wrong. i don't think it's british and that's not the type of country that's not the type of country that i'm going to build. >> what did you think to that? danielle? i think that's just brilliant. >> and i think a lot of people understand parents understand that, that parents have real aspirations for their children. one of the one of the disappointments of ten years of no whatever it is of no growth or whatever it is of
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very little growth in the economy, that people economy, is that ordinary people can't better can't look forward to a better life for own children, life for their own children, because they're not seeing that growth through. and often growth coming through. and often it's forward it's that looking forward and saying, we're things saying, you know, we're things are a bit better. are going to get a bit better. and my will have a better and my kids will have a better life than that gives life than i do. that gives people hope aspiration and people hope and aspiration and comfort their lives . rather comfort in their lives. rather than saying, oh, i want to earn £1 million today because i know that's not going to happen. >> i don't think the politics of envy is right. yeah. and i think, you know, the prime minister was right to call that out. however, he is the prime minister he's not a private citizen anymore. he did go to a £46,000 a year school. the average amount of money spend average amount of money we spend on school pupil is on a secondary school pupil is less £6,000. so this is in less than £6,000. so this is in the stratosphere here of investment. private investment investment. private investment in what's that got to do with >> what's that got to do with the achieved? they've the price achieved? they've got to do with it. >> well, because he's prime >> well, because he's the prime minister country. he's in minister of the country. he's in charge our state education charge of our state education system. >> he can't back rewrite. >> he can't go back and rewrite. >> he can't go back and rewrite. >> yeah. but he wants, >> he wants. yeah. but he wants, you for our children what you know, for our children what he had himself. that's great. and support that. and also
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and i support that. and i also support who make the support parents who make the choice, hard, who choice, who work hard, who decide the system. decide to exit the state system. but we should not get away from the record of this government on state are state education, which we are spending in real terms than spending less in real terms than we were in education. >> you know, there is this government has successes government has some successes and the and one of the one of the biggest league tables, one of and one of the one of the biggbiggest, ue tables, one of and one of the one of the biggbiggest, oneables, one of and one of the one of the biggbiggest, one of es, one of and one of the one of the biggbiggest, one of the one of and one of the one of the biggbiggest, one of the biggest the biggest, one of the biggest successes has actually been what we've done to transform education educational education and educational results. don't education and educational resultyou don't education and educational resultyou should don't education and educational resultyou should be don't to think you should be allowed to go knocking what's been go around knocking what's been achieved um, partly achieved in schools. um, partly through gove did through what michael gove did and transformations that through what michael gove did and made,|sformations that through what michael gove did and made,|sforgovernancet were made, the governance of schools, the way in which they're performing. >> point is, it's mixed >> point is, it's a mixed record. what record. yeah. and that's what parents are looking. >> a mixed record. >> everything is a mixed record. nothing ever perfect. >> everything is a mixed record. not it's] ever perfect. >> everything is a mixed record. not it's not ever perfect. >> everything is a mixed record. not it's not great. 3rfect. >> it's not great. >> it's not great. >> but this is a good record. this is a good record on education. and don't think you education. and i don't think you should allowed get should be allowed to get away with him. should be allowed to get away witiwell, him. should be allowed to get away witiwell, there 1im. should be allowed to get away witiwell, there you go. what do >> well, there you go. what do you make? so i'll let you guys at home have the final say on that one. coming after the that one. coming up after the break. i'll continue the conversation. actually about keir labour keir starmer and labour because have today they've have you seen now today they've had suspend their second
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had to now suspend their second parliamentary what is parliamentary candidate. what is going do you think the going on. do you think the labour party have a problem with anti—semitism? do you think that keir starmer actually keir starmer is actually handung keir starmer is actually handling in the right handling and acting in the right way? quick quickly enough. tell me your thoughts on all of that
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that's quite unhealthy, and that is pancakes six. it's is pancakes from six. it's breakfast gb news. breakfast on gb news. >> hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight. the conservative life peerin tonight. the conservative life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan, and the visiting professor at staffordshire university, tom burak, are along side me. good evening. good evening to you, gents. now, uh, get this . you've following get this. you've been following this whole right about this whole debacle right about the rochdale by—election and the labour candidate there. well get this a second labour parliamentary has now parliamentary candidate has now been suspended over remarks that they made about israel. so i'm referring here now to , um, referring here now to, um, graham jones if you're familiar with that name, he has been administratively suspended from the party. um, let's just cut straight to the chase on this one. right. do you think, dan? in fact, no. i'm going to start with you, tom. you are a man of the left. is that fair to say? indeed >> well, i mean, i resigned from the labour party in 2019 over, you know, the failure of jeremy
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corbyn and the party at the time to tackle anti—semitism . and, to tackle anti—semitism. and, you know, i'm i'm saddened to see that there's clearly still that strand of virulent anti—semitism within the labour party and mr ali's comments. i mean, frankly, i mean, given that they happened allegedly last year, what on earth is mr ali? >> of course we're talking about? this was the candidate at the rochdale by—election. >> what on earth has gone wrong with labour's selection process and due diligence here? keir starmer said that he would have a zero tolerance towards this anti—semitism in the party and now we discover just anti—semitism in the party and now we discoverjust in anti—semitism in the party and now we discover just in the anti—semitism in the party and now we discoverjust in the last now we discover just in the last hour or so that a second party candidate has been suspended for alleged anti—israeli , alleged anti—israeli, anti—semitic comments . alleged anti—israeli, anti—semitic comments. i mean, it doesn't bode well, does it ? it doesn't bode well, does it? >> well, no. but what do you what do you think is behind it? what do you think is driving this? do you think this is a have we just randomly found two
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examples of two people that harbour these views? is this a bigger problem not yet bigger problem that's not yet surfaced? your thoughts? bigger problem that's not yet sur'well,’ your thoughts? bigger problem that's not yet sur'well, you your thoughts? bigger problem that's not yet sur'well, you know, ur thoughts? bigger problem that's not yet sur'well, you know, ir thoughts? bigger problem that's not yet sur'well, you know, i meanjhts? bigger problem that's not yet sur'well, you know, i mean you’ >> well, you know, i mean you said man of the said i'm a man of the left. i consider myself to be a man of the authentic, traditional left. not this identitarian, uh, militant that we've seen militant left that we've seen infiltrate labour party over infiltrate the labour party over recent years. and really, what it's about, i think, is we've got far too many candidates now standing for office on that identitarian sort of sectarian ticket . so, you know, we have ticket. so, you know, we have now candidates like mr ali who appears to be only concerned with representing one section of his community, one section of his community, one section of his constituents , instead of his constituents, instead of actually thinking that if you stand for parliament, not only do you have to be quite tolerant with the language that you use, but you represent all of your constituents. >> um, your thoughts, daniel? >> um, your thoughts, daniel? >> well, i think it's what does it about keir starmer? i it say about sir keir starmer? i think are reaching peak. sir think we are reaching peak. sir keir starmer here last week he was his apart over was tearing his party apart over a u—turn on £28 billion, which
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he had cancelled after spending so much time affirming it. we've barely got that out of the way when he's defending the indefensible remarks of his candidate in rochdale for about 24 or 36 hours before doing a u—turn on that. and he's barely swallowed that. he's still doing the interviews on that when he's already doing a u—turn on his candidate in this other place in lancashire. whatever it is , who lancashire. whatever it is, who is himself a former labour mp, lost his seat in 2019. he's now seeking re—election as a labour mp . so it's u—turn after u—turn mp. so it's u—turn after u—turn after u—turn from keir starmer . after u—turn from keir starmer. and the funny thing is , nearly and the funny thing is, nearly all of these u—turns were predictable in advance. he could have made them straight away, he could have dissociated himself from azhar ali the moment he became aware of it. then there's the question which tom raises. this was quite well known in the labour party. there were labour party people in the room when these remarks were made . there these remarks were made. there were party cabinet, were labour party cabinet, shadow cabinet, people who've
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been associated with these candidates . been associated with these candidates. how many them candidates. how many of them heard those remarks ? how many of heard those remarks? how many of them it? how many of them knew about it? how many of them knew about it? how many of them looked the other way? i mean, it's it is a total mess. this last days has been this this last ten days has been a complete mess for starmer as a potential leader of anything. and you can complain about rishi sunak and we did earlier. but this is a shambles, utter shambles. >> i mean these are by elections. i think this is a warning really to the labour party that if they're going to root out this cancer within the party of anti—semitism , clearly party of anti—semitism, clearly they're going to have to do more due diligence on all of these candidates that have been standing in 600 and seats , standing in 600 and odd seats, uh, in. but there is no there is there is the pull that there is a lot of. >> i mean, there is the pull that there are a lot of votes out there. those people marching on the streets flags on the streets with the flags are small numbers, and they are not small numbers, and they represent large numbers , or they are not small numbers, and they represfor large numbers , or they are not small numbers, and they represfor larger numbers , or they are not small numbers, and they represfor larger numbers, or they are not small numbers, and they represfor larger numbers ofr they stand for larger numbers of people who don't go marching . people who don't go marching. and there is a reason that
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labour wants labour candidates seem to want to appeal to them. and so the question is, you know, is that trade off for know, what is that trade off for labour moral terms that is labour in moral terms that is credible with public at large? >> well, look, let's just listen to what starmer had to say to what keir starmer had to say about some of the action that he's taken. >> it is virtually unprocessed . >> it is virtually unprocessed. wanted support for wanted to withdraw support for a candidate in the way that i withdrew support for this candidate yesterday. that's what a changed labour party is all about. a changed labour party is all about . and of course, any about. and of course, any allegation will be fully investigated by the party. but the important thing is the decisive action that's being taken . varne. taken. varne. >> well, there you go. i'll let you decide whether or not you think it is the right, um, decisive of action or not. so we have just been referencing there that rochdale by elections are just to clear , uh, the list just to be clear, uh, the list of candidates that are running in by—election, we've just in that by—election, we've just been of them, been talking about one of them, azhar ali. he's the guy. of azhar ali. uh, he's the guy. of course , on that ballot as course, on that ballot as a labour got mark coleman, labour party got mark coleman, independent simon danczuk reform uk donaldson. uh, lib dems uk ian donaldson. uh, lib dems paul conservative paul ellison, conservative
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george galloway, workers party of britain, michael haworth, independent, william howarth, independent, um william howarth, independent, um william howarth, independent guy austin, green party. robin roden in support of the official monster raving loony party, and dave tullett, the independent . there you go. the independent. there you go. and you've just mentioned, um, the people that march and protest and all the rest of it are with flags, etc. well, you've had three of those girls, remember that everyone? remember that image, everyone? those protesters that were walking around with those parachutes, images on their parachutes, uh, images on their backs and also on one of the placards, i'll bring that image up as a reminder, um, for you. well, anyway, they have just been found guilty um , been found guilty under, um, terrorism rules, basically because it was deemed that they were expressing support for a banned terrorist organisation . banned terrorist organisation. then hopefully that sends a very stern message to people all, um, to consider their behaviour, perhaps when they go on these protests . now, a topic that protests. now, a topic that i just touched upon at the top of the program, one of my viewers, george, has got in touch saying
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he's absolutely appalled with me that i had the sheer audacity to ask question about it. i'll ask a question about it. i'll tell you what i'm referring to. you've just heard lord cameron there he was in the house of commons today and he was exploring possibility , exploring the possibility, perhaps, transferring some perhaps, of transferring some children from palestine into british hospitals for help. now ineed british hospitals for help. now i need to make absolutely clear here. it is absolutely heartbreaking. the scenes and the devastation that is occurring in gaza , especially , occurring in gaza, especially, um, when you see what's happening to the children there, is absolutely abhorrent . happening to the children there, is absolutely abhorrent. um, you were in the lords today. you heard david cameron . what do you heard david cameron. what do you think to this suggestion , think to this suggestion, therefore, that those children perhaps will come to hospitals like street ? like great ormond street? >> well, first of all, it wasn't his suggestion. he was asked a question about whether we should be doing and his answer be doing this. and his answer was his preference by far was that his preference by far was that his preference by far was , is that children should be was, is that children should be treated medically . we should be treated medically. we should be giving help to the for the
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medical treatment of children on on the ground in gaza as close to the scene of their homes as possible. that was the right thing to do. and then he said, of course, there may be some occasions in the past where a small number, um , probably need small number, um, probably need that long and difficult journey to britain in order to be rescued. we've done that on a few occasions in the past . rescued. we've done that on a few occasions in the past. he doesn't rule that out, but he made it absolutely clear that was preference. the was not his preference. the majority of children be majority of children need to be helped they are with their helped where they are with their parents, with their families in medical there, medical facilities there, including the field hospitals that been set up. that have been set up. >> do you think, tom? >> what do you think, tom? >> what do you think, tom? >> we should extend that >> i think we should extend that compassionate these compassionate arm around these child victims of war. um, wherever they exist. and britain has a proud history in doing this . and indeed, great ormond this. and indeed, great ormond street during the syrian conflict, iraq , you know, you go conflict, iraq, you know, you go back decades and great ormond street has been that kind of refuge and has helped child victims with the most horrendous injuries . and i think we should
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injuries. and i think we should remember, yes, it's part of our national health service. but people from all around the world donate the great ormond donate to the great ormond street hospital, it street hospital, and it is a world class hospital and i think it's that for, know , a it's right that for, you know, a small number of victims can come here and get that world class treatment. >> now, the risk of further upsetting george, the viewer who was appalled by me when i had the audacity to even flirt this for consideration . i am going to for consideration. i am going to kind of probe a little kind of probe this a little bit more, because have all the more, because i have all the empathy the world, um, empathy in the world, um, especially with child victims of war. they're innocent victims in this. i mean, obviously the key here would be to stop that bombing campaign, to try and do what we can to create peace in some of these that will some of these areas. that will be key priority. anyway, be the key priority. but anyway, let's that for let's just park that for a second. i've also seen the flip side of this. however. i've been a that's had a little baby a mum. that's had a little baby on waiting lists medical on waiting lists for medical assistance in children's hosphal assistance in children's hospital. deeply anxious hospital. it is a deeply anxious time it's impacting when time. it's life impacting when you're waiting for the access to that care. you can't get it because of waiting lists and
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availability and all the rest of it. and there will be so many children this country who children in this country who are on waiting and on those waiting lists. and i know both referencing. know you're both referencing. we've out before all we've helped out before and all the rest it, but our current the rest of it, but our current situation in the nhs is dire. waiting longer than i waiting lists are longer than i can them being in a can remember them being in a very time. so who gets to very long time. so who gets to make that then? that make that call then? that actually, yes, you've got that child. parents child. the parents have paid into system into the tax system here. they've waiting long time they've been waiting a long time for care and their for that care and their treatment. know what? treatment. but you know what? we're to make the priority we're going to make the priority call to treat it. because you said from a war zone, said a child from a war zone, wherever would be. wherever that was and would be. so that's open ended so i mean, that's open ended because there's war zones pretty much world. and much all over the world. and i have to say, i'm having this conversation with a with a slight in my tummy slight clench in my tummy because it's not a very kind slight clench in my tummy becaurbecauset a very kind slight clench in my tummy becaurbecauset aan ry kind slight clench in my tummy becaurbecauset aan ideald thing, because in an ideal world, children all over the world, all children all over the world, all children all over the world would be offered health care helped care and would be helped out and would know, living healthily. >> but both agree these are innocent victims. and you pick up on that daniel said up on something that daniel said just a few moments ago. i don't think talking about think we're talking about airlifting hundreds of these children from gaza. i think
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there is a question for the international community and the international community and the international aid agencies . why international aid agencies. why is it so difficult at the rafah cross saying, what is egypt doing ? i mean, okay, it's a doing? i mean, okay, it's a developing country , but it has developing country, but it has pretty enhanced medical facilities. good. doctor let's be clear, michel, you know, the whole of gaza, there is no functioning health care service whatsoever . and we have whatsoever. and we have previously for all these really life threatening , life changing life threatening, life changing industry injuries , airlifted industry injuries, airlifted these child victims of to war these child victims of to war the uk to give them treatment . the uk to give them treatment. and they've gone back when things have settled down. >> well, what do you think to it all? um, at home, do you think, like my view of george said at the start, do you think it's even abhorrent to even have this conversation? do you just think it's an absolute given that if a child needs help, whoever and wherever are the world, wherever they are in the world, the up and it the nhs steps up and offers it to them? your thoughts on it all? course, in an ideal all? of course, in an ideal world, to see any
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world, i would like to see any child anywhere getting the health care that require, health care that they require, but unfortunately not in but unfortunately we're not in that so that ideal world, are we? so tell your thoughts on all of tell me your thoughts on all of that. i've got lots more that i want to talk to you about right after the break. i want to talk want to talk to you about right aftyou 1e break. i want to talk want to talk to you about right aftyou 1e bre'punishment talk want to talk to you about right aftyou 1e bre'punishment fork to you about punishment for employers are hiring people employers that are hiring people that they shouldn't legally be doing and a very strange one doing so, and a very strange one as well, a tv show as well, about a tv show that's just been commissioned. i'll have details on that coming up
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discipline and cohesion, morale and initiative and courage and toughness . toughness. >> hi there michelle dewberry . >> hi there michelle dewberry. i'm keeping you company till 7:00 tonight. the concert live here in the house of lords. daniel moylan is alongside me, as is the visiting professor at staffordshire university. tom buick . um, i staffordshire university. tom buick. um, i can tell you your comments are coming in thick and fast on that last story. i'll bnng fast on that last story. i'll bring some of those in before the end of the programme. there's not a huge amount of love coming through my inbox for rishi going to the rishi sunak. going back to the start, asking you start, when i was asking you
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your on the people's your thoughts on the people's forum, there , if you are someone forum, there, if you are someone that you were undecided that perhaps you were undecided and saw him then he and you saw him and then he switched mind and has switched your mind and has converted you to him, then do let me know. tom. um he said basically he thinks yesterday was a bit of a fix. he said that nobody in the audience was allowed to anything against allowed to say anything against rishi his responses. well, rishi or his responses. well, i can you now, tom, that can tell you now, tom, that wasn't the case at all. if anyone didn't like what they heard, they absolutely could heard, um, they absolutely could have pushed back and challenged the they receive. the answer that they receive. i'm sure about that. so anyway, let's talk, shall we, about employers and landlords as well, who allow illegal immigrants to work them or rent their work for them or rent their properties. and what we can do about it apparently now much tougher penalties will be coming into get this everyone into place. get this everyone eye—watering businesses eye—watering sums. businesses could face up to £45,000 each for a first breach, up from . for a first breach, up from. £15,000. is this the answer then? um, you know, just charging people a lot more money to stop them filling their,
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their workforces with people that don't have the right to work here? >> well, is it the answer to what? it's not the answer to illegal migration. this is not going to stop illegal migration, but it is the answer to people . but it is the answer to people. unscrupulous employers basically robbing british workers, legal workers. i don't mean british workers. i don't mean british workers. i don't mean british workers. i mean people entitled to work here of decent wages for doing a job by taking advantage of people who, um, who will accept wages that are below the standard in order to do the same work . and i think that's only work. and i think that's only fair because it is a form of robbery. and i think if it helps contribute to that, and we catch of course, enforcement is important. you have to catch them. if we catch people them. but if we catch people doing that, i think we doing that, then i think we should them really hefty should give them really hefty fines that make a big difference should give them really hefty fintheirat make a big difference should give them really hefty fintheirat makeline.g difference should give them really hefty fintheirat makeline. theference should give them really hefty fintheirat makeline. the samee to their bottom line. the same is about landlords in a is true about landlords in a different way . landlords very different way. landlords very often are letting out properties, seeking to let out properties, seeking to let out properties, but in some cases unfit for human habitation . and
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unfit for human habitation. and the only market they've got is, is people who are who are illegal migrants who will accept that and pay a rent for it, which is which is again is a robbery that it is not worth that rent. it shouldn't be allowed. and they're exploiting them. they should be punished . them. they should be punished. but these financially hard . but these financially hard. >> yeah, but these fines are complete performative sideshow. and what i mean by this, i mean your colleagues, uh, in parliament passed this legislation around 2017. there's already a five year criminal sentence. if you're found to have broken the law. i don't think any amount of fines is going to deal with the real problem, which is the pull factors into our labour market and into the underground illegal housing supply. so for example, there should be a national register of landlords law licensed by the state. therefore if you lose your livelihood, if you found to house people who are not entitled to live here, the same actually with what i mean, i looked on the government's website because they publish details actually ,
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they publish details actually, of employers who have been fined and found out on a quarterly basis. just 25 employers were fined in the last quarter. it's a combination of hand car washing places , pizzerias, washing places, pizzerias, hairdressers . i mean, really the hairdressers. i mean, really the usual suspects . that's where the usual suspects. that's where the money should go into enforcement and ensuring that these types of businesses , houses are not businesses, houses are not allowed to get away with it. >> yeah , well, nobody's >> yeah, well, nobody's disagreeing with any of that , disagreeing with any of that, but i didn't say it was an answer to illegal. sorry i didn't. there is enforcement going on. believe me, there is enforcement going on. but you don't it on every street don't find it on every street corner. i mean, you must have noficed corner. i mean, you must have noticed the car washes in noticed the hand car washes in london practically london have practically disappeared. you know, certainly around ones disappeared. you know, certainly ahaven't ones disappeared. you know, certainly ahaven't in ones disappeared. you know, certainly ahaven't in my ones disappeared. you know, certainly ahaven't in my of ones disappeared. you know, certainly ahaven't in my of the ones i haven't in my neck of the woods, uh, certainly you woods, uh, certainly around, you know, around know, they've vanished around where live. and now it's where i live. and now it's definitely queue for the machine at hammersmith because there's no within miles. if you no other within miles. if you want to get your car cleaned, they. want to get your car cleaned, they . there is enforcement and they. there is enforcement and it has a ripple effect as well because other employers notice and they stop it before they get
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caught. so that happens. i caught. um, so that happens. i don't think it's the answer to illegal migration, but it is the answer to an injustice. but actually affects other people. >> but do you think that actually people who are are actually people who are who are being robbed of decent wages because is employing, because somebody is employing, do think there, daniel, that do you think there, daniel, that actually come to actually if people can come to the then they the country and then they can see their mates the tiktok, see their mates on the tiktok, you i've got this job, you know, i've got this job, i've got wodge cash, i've got this wodge of cash, surely think that surely you must think that that is factor. is a pull factor. >> i'm. i'm agreeing. it's a pull factor. this is not a response to illegal. this is not going to stop illegal migration. the victims of what this is going to. what i'm saying is what this is intended to stop, what this is intended to stop, what it should be stopping is people who are legally entitled to work, being robbed of work at decent wages by unscrupulous employers who say, rather than employers who say, rather than employ somebody legally at a decent wage , i'm going to employ decent wage, i'm going to employ somebody illegally at a three quarters of the wage and because thatis quarters of the wage and because that is the robbery and that's the injustice which which is
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being inflicted by this activity, it's nothing to do with illegal migration. as such , with illegal migration. as such, people will still come when they if they think there's an opportunity . opportunity. >> but if you're just providing an analysis of the problem, you're suggesting you're not really suggesting what solution is. what the solution is. >> telling you what think >> i'm telling you what i think the problem, telling the problem, what i'm telling you, what i think this problem is, it's not illegal is, and it's not illegal migration. it is about the underpayment of decent people, of wages for a job. and of proper wages for a job. and the way of addressing it is to regulate of the labour market the way. no, i'm what i'm saying is the way of , of the way. no, i'm what i'm saying is the way of, of doing this is to make these fines bite and to enforce them. i know you disagree with me about because i'm not actually disagreeing with you. tom. the way to make and we do need more enforcement, but a lot of enforcement goes on. you seem to think it doesn't happen. well because you don't thatcherite shows. >> i mean, no, what the website shows the number of people shows is the number of people prosecuted . prosecuted. >> show the ripple >> it doesn't show the ripple effect that. but for every effect of that. but for every one you, for every hairdresser, you prosecute, whatever it is,
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there'll be dozen hairdressers there'll be a dozen hairdressers in the vicinity who wake in the in the vicinity who wake up to the, to the, to the notion of what they're doing and the risk they're running. >> well, he's tom says he's not convinced. >> you convinced at home? >> are you convinced at home? yes and listen. i yes or no? and listen. right. i want to bring you into this conversation because i've had so much response there from much of a response there from that conversation. we've just been david cameron been talking about david cameron discussing there whether or not bringing to the bringing injured children to the uk treatment is the right uk for treatment is the right move or not, but also as well. i want you this. have you want to ask you this. have you seen this new show that's seen this new tv show that's been commissioned? you're going to yes, you heard to put virgins? yes, you heard me right. on tropical island . me right. on a tropical island. and i'll let your imagination figure out what might happen next. mean , really, is this next. i mean, really, is this the standard that we the kind of standard that we need?is the kind of standard that we need? is this a new low for television, or is it all harmless fun ? you tell me
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tel seven conservative life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan, alongside me, as is the visiting professor at staffordshire university, tom buick . joanne says michel, buick. joanne says michel, i cannot believe that you haven't started your program with the sad passing of steve wright's death, she says surely he, um, that's more important than labour candidates doing things they shouldn't be. well, joanna, i you know, i hate to say this, but that is actually we did reference that at the top of the programme, as you say, a lot of people feeling very sad about that tonight. i tell that news tonight. i can tell you now. right. the story that's got many of you talking is got so many of you talking is the conversation that david cameron or not cameron had about whether or not we should children over we should bring children over from, palestine for from, say, palestine for treatment in hospitals here, like great ormond street . now, like great ormond street. now, everybody, i'm absolutely certain this be certain of this will be absolutely horrified and heartbroken by the scenes that we see unfolding there. no child deserves that at all. so many people coming in with different opinions. as sarah says, it's a great idea. we should show
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compassion hundred to the of children that have suffered life changing injuries no changing injuries through no fault i'd be proud fault of their own. i'd be proud of this happens. of my country if this happens. so many people pointing out our nhs is in an absolute mess and cannot cope with it, so it shouldn't happen, matthew says. how doing this? why don't how about doing this? why don't we just giving pages that we set up just giving pages that fund in private sector fund care in our private sector for children? so that for these children? so that other on the nhs other children on the nhs waiting list are not pushed down? the list? uh, interesting idea . look, um, just quickly, idea. look, um, just quickly, a story that caught my eye. channel 4. uh, they are repeat, uh, reportedly planning a new show. i must confess, i don't watch love island, but it's that kind of thing this time. oh, it makes me cringe even saying it. virgins is apparently looking for love. they'll go on to this tropical island . they'll tropical island. they'll have so—called surrogates and so—called sex surrogates and even this subject. right, daniel 7 even this subject. right, daniel ? it just makes me cringe . and i ? it just makes me cringe. and i think, what are we doing? why are we why do we need tv programmes like quickly? programmes like this quickly? your now , back in programmes like this quickly? you1960s, now , back in programmes like this quickly? you1960s, go, now , back in programmes like this quickly? you1960s, go, go. now , back in the 1960s, go, go. >> back in the 1960s, there was a series. >> oh, blimey, off air at seven.
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>> there was a series on bbc two called the wednesday play, and one of them was written by the great science fiction tv writer nigel and was called great science fiction tv writer nigeyear and was called great science fiction tv writer nigeyear of and was called great science fiction tv writer nigeyear of the nd was called great science fiction tv writer nigeyear of the nd olympics. d the year of the sex olympics. and was all about a society and it was all about a society in which an islington in which in which an islington elite in charge. but the elite were in charge. but the mass of the population spent their time mass of the population spent theirtime bromide mass of the population spent their time bromide in their time having bromide put in their time having bromide put in their and watching their tea right, and watching sex on the television. and now we sex olympics on the television. and now we. channel 4 is actually delivering it for us. channel 4 is actually making nigel kneale science fiction come true. >> it's all very old to me anyway. >> tom moore life imitates art . >> tom moore life imitates art. >> tom moore life imitates art. >> it's pre—watershed, so i better be really careful what i say. when i ran this story past my partner earlier, she said she's looking forward the she's looking forward to the second series the over 50 second series when the over 50 get invited. >> oh oh, some counselling and she was looking at me as she said i mean, there's so said that. i mean, there's so many comments right the many comments right on the tip of that i could say, of my tongue that i could say, but most of them would probably get kicked off the airwaves get me kicked off the airwaves for good. get me kicked off the airwaves for in 0d. get me kicked off the airwaves for in response to that. so i'll >> in response to that. so i'll keep my mouth zipped on that one. one. >> one. >> uh, let's stay turned
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broadcaster, by the way, it is this state. >> it is we licence fee for we doesn't get the licence fee, but it is state owned. we were going to privatise this last year. they kicked up a huge fuss about it. the government gave way and this is their response . it's this is their response. it's this is their response. it's this putting a number this is really putting a number of fingers. i won't say how many before the watershed. a number of fingers up to the british pubuc of fingers up to the british public and the government. >> there you go. >> um, there you go. >> um, there you go. >> hazel, you've asked a question. hazel's asked a question. hazel's asked a question , um, on, uh, x and question, um, on, uh, x and twitter. you can look for it yourself . twitter. you can look for it yourself. um, i'm not really going to get into that. i don't think whilst people are eating theirt shirts asking, how do you verify why? who is allowed on said island? who passes the criteria? we'll criteria? i think we'll leave that. we'll leave one to that. we'll leave that one to people's imaginations . um, people's imaginations. um, anyway, look, channel 4, they basically reckon that they've got psychologists and experts and all the rest of it on the hand. they reckon this is a very real issue and a concern to a large number of people. you know what? i'll give you guys the
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final thought on that one. look, tom, absolutely flies, doesn't it? um, tom, thank you very much for your company tonight . it's for your company tonight. it's lord moylan. thank you. thank you for your company, too. and you for your company, too. and you know, don't you? i hope you know by now i say it all the time. you guys are so important to me. and i appreciate each and every one of you. so thank you very, very for watching and very, very much for watching and listening. don't go anywhere, though, nigel farage though, because nigel farage is up you up next, and i'll see you tomorrow night . tomorrow night. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of whether on . gb news. hello again. >> very good evening to you, alex burkill here with your latest gb news, weather forecast . yes. across scotland it is going be a chilly night with going to be a chilly night with some frost likely. but most some frost likely. but for most of cloudy , wet and of us it's a cloudy, wet and mild story because of a weather system pushed its way in system that pushed its way in earlier and has already earlier today and has already brought amount of rain brought a fair amount of rain across many parts of england and wales. staying cloudy and wet
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across many parts through the night pushing into night and rain also pushing into northern ireland too. as we go through the early hours of tomorrow morning. however across much clear skies much of scotland, clear skies here and that then here and with that then temperatures taking a bit of a drop, falling a few degrees below freezing. so a fairly harsh frost here, but much milder where we have milder elsewhere where we have those cloudy skies as we go through tomorrow itself. then another grey gloomy for most another grey gloomy day for most of us, further outbreaks of rain could , could turn could be heavy, could turn persistent for a time in the south and some persistent rain pushing in then across parts of scotland, over scotland, with some snow over the highest ground . greatest the highest ground. greatest chance sunshine chance of seeing any sunshine tomorrow will in the far tomorrow will be in the far north scotland, here's north of scotland, but here's where also to be. where it's also going to be. chilliest elsewhere pretty chilliest elsewhere a pretty mild highs of around 14 mild day with highs of around 14 or 15 celsius. mild for most on thursday. could be even milder than on wednesday, but again, cloud with further outbreaks of rain and these could be pretty heavy at times. could see some localised impacts . notice some localised impacts. notice some heavier pushing into the heavier rain pushing into the south as we go into the afternoon moon. at moment afternoon moon. at the moment friday does look like it will be
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dner friday does look like it will be drier some bright or sunny drier with some bright or sunny spells, but then the rain returns in time for saturday. spells, but then the rain retu bye.1 time for saturday. spells, but then the rain retu bye. i'llne for saturday. spells, but then the rain retu bye. i'll see)r saturday. spells, but then the rain retu bye. i'll see you turday. spells, but then the rain retu bye. i'll see you again. bye bye. i'll see you again soon. >> looks like things are heating up boilers sponsors of up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .
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>> well, not now, just the rochdale labour candidate, but now a former mp for lancashire who is standing again, has been suspended by the labour party for making statements considered to be anti—semitic . to be anti—semitic. >> we ask has the labour party changed? we'll also tonight talk about braverman's law . yes, that about braverman's law. yes, that piece of legislation , the piece of legislation, the illegal migration act, which, given the law of unintended consequences, has now left 22,000 people who came last
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