>> good afternoon . it's 3 pm. >> good afternoon. it's 3 pm. i“ppy >> good afternoon. it's 3 pm. happy friday and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. coming up on today's show, we'll cross live to newhaven, where six migrants have been taken to hospital after they were found in the back of a refrigerated lorry . we'll have refrigerated lorry. we'll have all the latest on that, ray addison will be on site. are we seeing a resurgence of return to lorries being the best way into the uk now we're seeing a clampdown on boats . clampdown on boats. >> we'll have all the latest from newhaven . from newhaven. >> plus of course, the morning after the night before. i'll have look back on yet another have a look back on yet another miserable night for rishi sunak after tories lost two more after the tories lost two more crucial by—election seats ahead of what looks to be a carnage election coming up and prince harry just can't keep his mouth

shut, can he.7 this harry just can't keep his mouth shut, can he? this time he's been talking, yapping away to american television about the king's illness and he hinted that it could lead to a reconciled with his father and he might even become an american citizen . all that coming up on citizen. all that coming up on the show . welcome to the show . the show. welcome to the show. thanks for joining the show. welcome to the show. thanks forjoining me. thanks for joining me. >> and again, a happy friday to you. your company is always a pleasure. >> now the morning after the night before those by elections , night before those by elections, the dust settling reform . the dust is settling reform. >> are they kingmakers or are they rolling out the red carpet to sir keir starmer, paving the way for him to get the keys to number 10 later in the show? i'll be joined by ben habib in the studio for his first in—depth interview since he came third in last night's wellingborough by—election, a record percentage 13% of the vote. but is it enough? and anyhow, is it just granting starmer a certain victory by

splitting the vote? that will get very lively . make sure you get very lively. make sure you stick around for that and get in touch all the usual ways on that topic. i know this gets you very, very hot under the collar. please in touch. please get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com loads coming up. but first here's your latest news headlines with sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. >> it's just gone 3:00 and leading news this afternoon . leading the news this afternoon. the alexei navalny has the wife of alexei navalny has warned the reported death of her husband, she says, will not go unpunished. >> speaking at the munich security conference earlier , security conference earlier, yulia navalny said vladimir putin must be held personally responsible for the atrocities he has committed and her comments come after lord cameron said the russian president had fabricated charges against his most vocal critic, which saw him exiled to a prison in the arctic. >> ukraine's president has also said it is clear russia is to

blame for mr navalny's death, a claim that's been echoed today by us vice president kamala kamala harris. >> if confirmed , this would be a >> if confirmed, this would be a further sign of putin's brutality . brutality. >> whatever story they tell, let us be clear russia is responsible and we will have . responsible and we will have. >> two men have been arrested and six people have been taken to hospital after migrants were found today in the back of a lorry at new haven's ferry port, gb news has been told that some of those found inside the truck do require medical attention . do require medical attention. emergency currently at emergency crews are currently at the scene and are assisting border force personnel who are leading response . leading that response. >> . >> ice. >> ice. >> the scottish leader of labour says that the tories are edging closer to what he called the far right crank fest after his party scored a double win in by elections overnight . anas sarwar elections overnight. anas sarwar comments come as the tories come to terms with winning with two

devastati ng losses . devastati ng losses. >> jen kitchen snatched wellingborough with a 45.8% vote, the second largest by—election swing from conservative to labour since the second world war. >> and that was just two hours after labour's damien egan won kingswood with just under 45. >> labour leader sir keir starmer says the results do show that the country wants change. >> we're very pleased with the by—election results from last night . i by—election results from last night. i think it's very by—election results from last night . i think it's very clear night. i think it's very clear that that people are crying out for change across the country . for change across the country. um, they think that the tories have failed. they can see that most things are broken. they look at the labour party and see a changed party and last night people who hadn't voted labour before went out and voted laboun before went out and voted labour. so i'm very pleased with both of those results . but there both of those results. but there is more work to do. there's a long way to go . long way to go. >> well, meanwhile , prime >> well, meanwhile, prime minister rishi sunak has admitted that while the circumstances facing his party, he says are challenging , labour, he says are challenging, labour, he says are challenging, labour, he says are challenging, labour, he says doesn't have a plan ,

he says doesn't have a plan, midterms by elections are always difficult for incumbent governments and the circumstances of these by elections were, of course, particularly challenging thing. >> now, i think if you look at the results, very low turnout and it shows that we've got work to do to show people that we are delivering on their priorities. and that's what i'm absolutely determined shows and that's what i'm absolutely dete there d shows and that's what i'm absolutely dete there d huge shows and that's what i'm absolutely detethered huge amountws that there isn't a huge amount of enthusiasm for the alternative in keir starmer and the and that's the labour party. and that's because they don't have a plan. and if you don't have plan, and if you don't have a plan, you can't deliver real change. and the general election and when the general election comes, the message i'll and when the general election cormaking the message i'll and when the general election cormaking the country.�* i'll and when the general election cormaking the country. stick be making to the country. stick with it is with our plan because it is starting to deliver the change that and that the country wants and needs. new kingswood mp was needs. his new kingswood mp was quick what he called quick to blame what he called rishi's helping to rishi's recession for helping to deal blow to the tories deal a double blow to the tories overnight . overnight. >> egan said that >> damian egan said that 14 years of conservative government have sucked the hope out of the country. >> his comments came as official figures show the uk slipped into recession at end of last recession at the end of last year , with the economy shrinking year, with the economy shrinking by 0.3% in december , according by 0.3% in december, according to royal news and prince harry

has suggested that the king's cancer diagnosis could lead to reconciliation within the family. >> speaking to good morning america programme in the us , the america programme in the us, the duke of sussex said that he loved his father and that he was grateful to have spent time with him during a fleeting visit to london last week. he told london last week. but he told abc correspondent will abc news correspondent will reeve the conversations he's had with his father about his health will remain private . will remain private. >> i jumped on a plane and went to go and see him as soon as i could. how was that visit for you emotionally? um, look, i love i love my family. the fact that i was the fact that i was able to get on a plane and go and see him and spend any time with him, i'm grateful for that. what's of your outlook what's sort of your outlook on on health stays between on his health that stays between me and him? >> the family can >> an illness in the family can have a galvanising or sort of reunifying effect for a family. is possible this case? is that possible in this case? yeah, i'm sure. >> mean, you know, i've >> i mean, you know, i've throughout families, throughout all these families, i see a, a day to day see it on a, on a day to day bafis. basis. >> and finally greece has become the first country with a christian orthodox majority to

legalise same sex marriage. many lgbt campaigners struggle to contain their emotions even as they watch the results unfold . they watch the results unfold. the changes will also see same sex couples given adoption rights . in a sex couples given adoption rights. in a rare sex couples given adoption rights . in a rare show of rights. in a rare show of parliamentary consensus . that's parliamentary consensus. that's despite objections from church officials for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts . news. com forward slash alerts. >> thank you sam. now we start with the show with the news that six migrants have been taken to hospital after they were found in the back of a lorry at new haven ferry port. two men have been arrested. >> let's cross straight now to new haven ferry port and join our south—east of england reporter ray addison ray. a dramatic intervention and discovery. what's the latest ? discovery. what's the latest? >> well, yeah, it really shook

this community here. >> what is quite a sleepy ferry port in new haven. seen a huge response from emergency services. not just border force, but sussex police as well. and south east coast ambulance service as well, sending several ambulances to the scene . now, of ambulances to the scene. now, of course, the response was to migrants being discovered in the back of what is being described as a freezer like . 319 to be on as a freezer like. 319 to be on the seven sisters ferry , which the seven sisters ferry, which came over from dieppe in france earlier on this morning . south earlier on this morning. south east coast ambulance saying they got the call about 940 that they were required to attend an emergency here. now, we do know that two men have been arrested , that two men have been arrested, one on suspicion of facilitating illegal entry to the united kingdom. another for entering the country illegally, and that six migrants have been taken to hospital as well. now presumably

there will be concerns that that there will be concerns that that the effect of being kept sealed up, potentially in the back of a freezer lorry at those freezer temperatures could have had a negative impact upon their health. they've been taken to hospital, but so far no news of any fatalities. thankfully at this stage. now, of course , i this stage. now, of course, i was speaking to passengers as well. they were telling me that they were confused by the delay. they hadn't received a lot of information and they were being held waiting to begin their held up waiting to begin their journeys to france. now can tell you that the seven sisters ferry did leave this port of newhaven. about half an hour ago, and actually, locals here applauding to see it getting back on its way. and have some normality come back to what i said, is quite a sleepy port here. the local mp for lose is maria caulfield. she posted on x that she saw all of this drama unfold from the office of her constituency rather from the window of her constituency

office. she tweeted on x that she was very concerned by these reports and she thanked emergency services for their quick response. but those two men that have been arrested are remaining in custody and those six migrants have been taken to hospital . hospital. >> okay. thank you. ray allison live from new haven. of course. we'll have all the latest on that developing story throughout the . thank you. the show. thank you. >> ray . >> ray. >> ray. >> now to the fallout from yet another terrible night for the tories. it turned into a horror show. rishi sunak is under even more pressure after the government lost two crucial by elections . the conservatives elections. the conservatives were defending majorities of 18,000 in wellingborough and 11,000 in kingswood , yet both 11,000 in kingswood, yet both seats fell to labour last night. is there any such thing as a safe seat left? the prime minister embarked on a damage limitation mission today, but he admitted the defeat showed the conservatives have work to do to convince voters to back them at the next general election .

the next general election. >> midterms, by elections are always difficult for incumbent governments, and the circumstances of these by elections were, of course, particularly challenging. now, i think if you look at the results, very low turnout, it and it shows that we've got work to do to show people that we are delivering on their priorities. and that's what i'm absolutely determined and that's what i'm absolutely dete thered and that's what i'm absolutely dete there isn't a and that's what i'm absolutely detethere isn't a huge amount that there isn't a huge amount of enthusiasm for the alternative. live in keir starmer party , starmer and the labour party, and dont and that's because they don't have if don't have a plan. and if you don't have a plan. and if you don't have plan, deliver have a plan, you can't deliver real change. when the real change. and when the general that's general election comes, that's the making to the message i'll be making to the message i'll be making to the . stick with our plan the country. stick with our plan because starting to because it is starting to deliver the change the deliver the change that the country needs and we country wants and needs and we hear that stick with the plan before the next general election, before last night, election, but before last night, labour won in kingswood labour hadn't won in kingswood since 2005, and the last win in wellingborough was back in 2001. >> we're very pleased with the by—election results from last night. >> i think it's very clear that people are crying out for change across the country. um, they

think that the tories have failed. they can see that most things are broken. they look at the labour party and see a changed party. and last night people who hadn't voted labour before went out and voted laboun before went out and voted labour. so i'm very pleased . labour. so i'm very pleased. with both of those results. but there is more work to do. there's a long way to go, so it's the morning after the night before and i'm joined in the studio by our political studio now by our political correspondent, olivia. >> welcome to the show >> olivia, welcome to the show as ever. it's a pleasure. there's no dressing this up, is there? it was absolute carnage for the conservatives. in fact , for the conservatives. in fact, not even the most ardent supporter are saying they're bracing themselves for disaster. one prediction if it carries on at the same rate as last night, olivia, the tories might be wiped out to 51 seats. >> well, absolutely . >> well, absolutely. >> well, absolutely. >> i mean, there are so many terrible stats for the conservatives in these two by—election results. yet if the swing in kingsboro was repeated across kingswood and mix them up, there was repeated across

the country, the conservatives would be down to just a handful of seats. obviously that is unlikely to happen . you can't unlikely to happen. you can't really extrapolate like that from a by—election. in by elections, people are more willing go out vote as a willing to go out and vote as a protest. incumbents don't often win, that doesn't win, etc, etc. but that doesn't take away from the very real fact that this was a terrible night for the conservatives. and of course, it's not the only terrible the terrible night for the conservatives in recent times. in last months, the in the last seven months, the conservatives have lost a whole swathe of elections across swathe of by elections across the country. and as you said in your there, it does your introduction there, it does feel now as though there isn't really such a thing as a safe seat for conservatives anymore. the will say that, the conservatives will say that, well , for a start, the local well, for a start, the local politics in these by elections were particularly bad. the conservative association in wellingborough chose to have peter bone, the disgraced mps, former mps girlfriend, as their candidate and apparently on the doorstep . that caused a real doorstep. that caused a real drag on the vote. the other sort

of of hope for the conservatives if you can call it that, is that there wasn't a huge swell of support for labour, and that's a pattern that we've been seeing time and time again. pattern that we've been seeing time and time again . yes, labour time and time again. yes, labour keep winning with these huge swings, but mainly swings, but that's mainly because turnout is very low . and because turnout is very low. and what i mean by that is that conservative voters aren't switching over to labour. they're simply staying at home. they're simply staying at home. the turnout in these two by elections was under 40, which is similar to the ones that we saw back in the summer. but at the end of the day, election days are won and lost by the people who are turning out to vote. and if the conservatives can't get their voters to come out to the polling booths at an election, well then it's goodbye to rishi sunak.the well then it's goodbye to rishi sunak. the other big story of the night , of sunak. the other big story of the night, of course, is reform. this is the first time that some of those polling figures that we've seen to reform have actually realised in a vote actually been realised in a vote reform got 31% of the vote in welwyn borough. that is impressive . they've they've

impressive. they've they've leapfrogged the liberal democrat base and definitely they are taking away from the conservative vote in kingswood. if every single reform voter had voted for the conservatives in said, the conservatives would have clung on to the seat. what it actually means for reform. well, i think you're going to be speaking to ben habib , i think speaking to ben habib, i think later. it really good enough later. is it really good enough to make a real difference to that party's prospects? it's not clear but way another, clear, but one way or another, the conservative are having a very bad time indeed . okay. very bad time indeed. okay. >> thank you olivia. leanne, on that point now let's go straight to chair of the to the deputy chair of the conservative james daly conservative party, james daly james, the show . um, james, welcome to the show. um, not the best night for the conservative party, but one thing that leaps out of this. james, the winner last night, was that none of the above party apathy seems to be the enemy . apathy seems to be the enemy. well, i think you and olivia have just discussed really, the and highlighted the main issues that come out of this by—election. >> of who voted in >> 63% of people who voted in 2019 didn't vote this time. >> martin. and the challenge for

the conservative party as well as all other parties , is to as all other parties, is to ensure that we have a manifesto, a set of policies that when it really matters, when it really comes down to it as to who's going to run the country after a general election that can inspire people to come out, you know, i believe and i'm here as the chairman of the the deputy chairman of the conservative party and believe with for the with all my heart that for the good country, for the good good of my country, for the good of town, for the good of the of my town, for the good of the people represent, people that i represent, whether i'm that rishi i'm here or not, that rishi sunakis i'm here or not, that rishi sunak is the only leader who has a address immigration, a plan to address immigration, to address, um , the economy, to to address, um, the economy, to ensure that we have an even, you know, a growing economy where everyone has access to high paid , high skilled jobs, you know, to make sure that we tackle the scourge of worklessness to get people into work, which people back into work, which we're in we're doing at this moment in time. that's what this time. so that's what this election is going to be about when comes general when it comes the general election, up, we election, when it comes up, we have um, should have some unique, um, should we say, circumstances here. say, local circumstances here. and sure we can talk about and i'm sure we can talk about that a bit more. martin james, rishi keeps saying rishi sunak the minister keeps saying,

the prime minister keeps saying, we've plan , an let's stick we've got a plan, an let's stick with it . with it. >> but the plan doesn't seem to be working. james, the plan be working. james, is the plan better improved by changing leader and not sticking with rishi sunak ? rishi sunak? >> well, no. >> well, no. >> absolutely no. real wages have been going up for six months. inflation has gone down from to 4. we've had make from 11 to 4. we've had to make some difficult decisions. it's been period the been a difficult period for the country. money country. but there's more money coming people's pockets. coming into people's pockets. we've more we've seen the beginning of more of banks building societies of banks and building societies reducing mortgage rates in dependent, uh commentators are saying two things that it is likely towards the end of the year that we're going to see more interest rates coming down. and secondly, that our economy is to grow every is going to grow more than every other economy in the g7 going forward. signs are forward. to all the signs are there to have there that we are going to have better times ahead. >> it's been a difficult period relating the, you know, relating from the, you know, going pandemic and going back to the pandemic and all had to spend, all the money we had to spend, you the, the challenges you know, the, the challenges that brought. that ukraine has brought. >> a prime minister >> but this is a prime minister with plan that going to with a plan that is going to deliver martin. >> thanks for joining us. >> okay. thanks forjoining us. conservative party deputy chair

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radio. >> welcome back . it's 322. >> welcome back. it's 322. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now later this hour i'll tell you about the fake audio sadiq khan making inflammatory remarks ahead of armistice day that he says could have caused serious disorder . says could have caused serious disorder. but says could have caused serious disorder . but before that, disorder. but before that, vladimir putin's biggest critic has died in prison. vladimir putin's biggest critic has died in prison . alexei has died in prison. alexei navalny fell ill after a walk

almost immediately lost consciousness and died soon afterwards , according to prison afterwards, according to prison authorities . foreign secretary authorities. foreign secretary lord david cameron says putin should be held accountable for navalny's death and the president of latvia said in a valley have been brutally murdered by the kremlin. well i'm joined now by charlie peters . charlie, um, putin's biggest critic and mysteriously he dies. this smells a bit fishy , doesn't it? >> that's right. martin and it comes some four years after navalny was first taken serious ill after what a media reports at the time established was almost certainly a novichok poisoning . novichok being the poisoning. novichok being the nerve agent nerve agent most commonly used by the russian authorities, in particular the fsb, the successor of the kgb. you'll recall that in 2018, the nerve agent was detected when it was used on the kgb double agent

skripal in salisbury. and so this is the allegation being made today that navalny could have been poisoned . and in this have been poisoned. and in this sudden death reported this morning, earlier in the week, his mother said that she spoke to him on the 12th on monday, where he looked alive and well and healthy. but the report from the russian prison service said that he lost consciousness shortly after a walk. we also heard from sources at the local hospital in carp, which is where the ik three penal colony is, where navalny was being held since the end of december. they said they tried to resuscitate him for over 30 minutes. that penal colony in the arctic circle, some 1200 miles north—east of moscow. it's one of the many jails he's been held in since he returned to russia. after that poisoning in january 2021. well, in the last hour we heard from lord david cameron,

the foreign secretary in munich, for the security conference, the so—called davos of defence, who said that putin must be held accountable for these developments . developments. >> well, alex navalny was an incredibly brave fighter against corruption and he gave up everything in campaigning for what he believed in. and my heart goes out to his wife and to his family. heart goes out to his wife and to his family . and we should be to his family. and we should be clear about what has happened here. putin's russia imprisoned him , trumped up charges against him, trumped up charges against him, trumped up charges against him , poisoned him, sent him to a him, poisoned him, sent him to a arctic penal colony, and now he's tragically dying. >> and we should hold putin accountable for this. >> and no one should be in any doubt about the dreadful nature of putin's regime in russia. >> well, lord cameron's comments there widespread there came after widespread international condemnation with the latvian president saying that navalny was brutally murdered earlier this afternoon at the munich security conference . we also heard from conference. we also heard from his wife yulia, who gave a

speech after kamala harris saying that if this news was confirmed, saying that we couldn't trust putin's propaganda, then the international community must unite to fight putin. >> thank you, charlie peters, on that update. and world leaders are lining up to condemn putin and the kremlin says it has no information on his death . but information on his death. but thank you, charlie. now moving on. prince harry can't help himself, can he? he suggested the king's illness could lead to a record situation with his father and harry was talking to. good morning, good morning america . america. >> i jumped on a plane and went to go and see him as soon as could. >> how was that visit for you emotionally? >> um, look, i love i love my family. the fact that i was, the fact that i was able to get on a plane and go and see him and spend any time with him, i'm grateful for that. what's sort of on on his health of your outlook on on his health that between and that stays between me and him? >> can >> an illness in the family can have a galvanising of

have a galvanising or sort of reunifying effect for a family. is that possible? in this case? >> i'm sure. i mean, you >> yeah, i'm sure. i mean, you know, these know, i've throughout all these families, i see it on a, on a day to day basis. well we go and i'm joined now by gb news royal correspondent cameron walker. >> cameron, welcome to the show . >> cameron, welcome to the show. so yeah, he finally speaks out on a ski slope on national television in america . touching. television in america. touching. >> yeah. i must admit, martin, i was incredibly surprised when i heard this interview was happening this entire happening because this entire week been about a rebrand week has been about a rebrand for both harry and meghan , then for both harry and meghan, then appearing to want to get away from the royal titles. even though the. of course, whole website is branded sussex comm, which is a royal title , but the which is a royal title, but the fact that it was teased that he was going to be talking about his majestys health rang alarm bells for me and i suspect probably ran rang alarm bells for buckingham palace . however, for buckingham palace. however, prince harry did refuse to go into any private details about his father's condition, which would be a welcome relief for

buckingham palace . he talked buckingham palace. he talked about rifts , potentially about rifts, potentially healing. he said he loved his family and he was grateful that he could fly over to the united kingdom to see his father. having learned of his cancer, diagnosed ipsis. but of course , diagnosed ipsis. but of course, that's all the headlines now, isn't it ? him talking about his isn't it? him talking about his father and his health rather than the purpose of the interview, which was to shine a light on the invictus games, his games set up in 2014 to support wounded veterans . a very worthy wounded veterans. a very worthy cause. but of course , all the cause. but of course, all the headunes cause. but of course, all the headlines are now about his father. but to be fair to prince harry, he did look look pretty uncomfortable answering those questions about his father's condition. but he did put himself in a situation where he was in front of a camera with a us journalist who inevitably was going to ask about his father and relationship with the and his relationship with the royal family >> his global >> yeah, part of his global privacy tour. speaking once privacy tour. speaking out once again on national television. still, a crumb of still, there is a crumb of comfort jewel comfort he wants jewel citizenship in america, so he might stay out there. >> yeah , he says he's >> yeah, he says he's considering becoming a us

citizen, although he said it's not a priority, which is perhaps slightly ironic because next week there's a hearing in the us about his us visa. week there's a hearing in the us about his us visa . remember, about his us visa. remember, there's a whole row about the fact that did he lie or not on his us visa form about because of course he admitted drug use in his memoir, spare and you can't get a us visa if you admit drug use . prince harry, we have drug use. prince harry, we have had no details about what he put on his visa form. but that, of course, is all happening next week. so plus, considering week. so that plus, considering the it's all going to the us visa, it's all going to be a one to watch next week. >> is. >> it certainly is. >> it certainly is. >> and it just rolls on and on. please get in touch out there viewers. thank you cameron walker by the way. superb stuff as ever. please get on touch with us the fact that with us about the fact that there he is again. he hasn't spoken at all about the king's cancer. spoken at all about the king's cancer . he spoken at all about the king's cancer. he hasn't spoken at all about the king's cancer . he hasn't spoken at all cancer. he hasn't spoken at all emotionally about it. he went to an nfl awards. he went to the opening of an envelope at the bob marley press here in jamaica. well by the way,

telling us that we shouldn't we should lessen our carbon footprint. he takes a private jet and now there he is again, speaking national speaking out on national television such i television about such things. i mean, it's an absolute mean, it's just an absolute clown, fella. i'm sorry to clown, this fella. i'm sorry to have there we have to say that, but there we go. and there's lots more go. and there's still lots more to now and 4:00, to come between now and 4:00, including john lewis is one of the country's face stores, isn't it? but why on earth is it now selling sex toys and just just to make matters worse, today it emerges in its staff magazine. it's giving out 70,000 staff members across the uk . advice? members across the uk. advice? wait for this advice on how to bind the breasts of transgender children , because john lewis has children, because john lewis has been infested by stonewall and mermaids of all places. but first, here's your latest news headunes first, here's your latest news headlines with sam francis.

>> martin. thank you. good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. just gone half past three. the headunes just gone half past three. the headlines this hour. the wife of alexei navalny has told reporters that the death of her husband will not go unpunished. speaking at the munich security conference, yulia navalny said vladimir putin must be personally held responsible for the atrocity that he's committed and her comments come after lord cameron said the russian president had fabricated charges against his most vocal critic , against his most vocal critic, which saw him imprisoned at a penal colony in the arctic . penal colony in the arctic. ukraine's president says that it's clear russia is to blame for mr navalny's death, and that's a claim also echoed by us vice president kamala harris . vice president kamala harris. here in the uk, two men have been arrested and six people have been taken to hospital after a group of migrants were found in the back of a freezer lorry at newhaven ferry port. emergency crews are currently at that scene and they're assisting border force officials who are leading the response the leading the response to the incident the labour scored

incident. the labour scored a double win in by elections overnight , inflicting overnight, inflicting a devastating blow to the conservative party. jen kitchen snatched wellingborough with a 45.8% vote. the second largest by—election swing from conservatives to labour since the second world war. the stunning result came just two hours after labour's damian egan won kingswood with just under. 45, and prince harry has suggested the king's cancer diagnosis could lead to reconciliation within the royal family. speaking to good morning america in the us , the duke of america in the us, the duke of sussex said he was grateful to spend time with his father dunng spend time with his father during a fleeting visit to london last week. but he says conversations the king's conversations about the king's health would private . and health would remain private. and for the latest stories , you can for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

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>> welcome back. 337 you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now let's get more reaction to labour's two by—election wins last night. and i'm now joined by the labour mp steve mccabe. steve welcome to the show. you must be cockahoop this morning, steve. no such thing as a safe seat . it no such thing as a safe seat. it seems any more big swings are the new norm . is the labour the new norm. is the labour party getting ready for downing street >> well, i don't think that's the conclusion we're drawing. >> i think we'd say they are two excellent results to show how good the labour campaigns were , good the labour campaigns were, and they show how disillusioned with the tories people are. but you know, we haven't had the general election yet. and as , general election yet. and as, uh, keir starmer said this morning, we're going to fight as if we're five points behind steve, let me put this bluntly, is sir keir starmer turning out to be the least bad option on

the voting ticket at the moment? >> i mean, the biggest winner last night was the none of the above option. apathy seems to be the first choice of voters and people seem to be voting for the labour party simply because they're not voting for anybody else. >> well, certainly enough. that's not my conclusion. i don't think apathy was that big an issue. i mean, the turnout for what, 37, 38? that's about average for a by—election turnout these days. nothing unusual about that. uh, and you know, look at the size of the swings to labour. so if that's the least bad option, it must be a very popular option . a very popular option. >> hey, steve, do you think it'd be nice to send a bottle of champagne to richard tice at the reform party? after all, he seems to be doing a lot of the labour party's job for you by taking votes away from the conservatives. is he helping the labour party get into number 10? >> well , i was

labour party get into number 10? >> well, i was listening to pat mcfadden a moment ago and i think, uh, part made the point. look, we would have won those by elections even if all the reform votes, uh , had gone to the votes, uh, had gone to the tories. so you know, i don't really think that's a fact that l, really think that's a fact that i, you know, it's true that, um, some, uh, disk visioned tories are going to reform. i don't think there's much doubt about that. but, uh , i don't think that. but, uh, i don't think it's a big factor in terms of how we should approach things . how we should approach things. >> and, steve, when you look upon last night's by—election results, which, you know, there's no glossing over it, it was a terrible night for the conservatives. and then you hear rishi sunak saying, need to rishi sunak saying, we need to stick to the plan. how is that make feel ? make you feel? >> well , i make you feel? >> well, i mean, i think i think it's, uh, rishi sunak who needs a reality check , if i'm honest. a reality check, if i'm honest. i mean, he's now what, more byelections than john major? i think that was the 10th since 2019. he's got a plan that isn't

working. i mean, inflation is still double the target . it's still double the target. it's stalled now . growth has stalled. stalled now. growth has stalled. we're in recession last week it was two tax cuts. now we can't afford that employment slowing. uh universal credit claimants are up. his plan is a plan to nowhere . nowhere. >> and steve the liberal democrats last night sank like a stone. sank without trace. is that an emergence of the fact that an emergence of the fact that they weren't really trying in seats where the labour party were odds on favourites to win, and we can expect to see a bit more of that tactical working between the liberal democrats and the labour party we and the labour party as we approach general election in, approach a general election in, well, there wasn't any tactical working that i'm aware of. >> i mean, i think the liberals have always, uh, chosen, you know, to pick or, you know , the know, to pick or, you know, the byelections where they think they've got the best chance. i think that's true. i suppose something that was interesting

last night was that the greens didn't have much of a showing. and all those people who've been trying make issue about trying to make issue about labour's green prosperity plan, it wouldn't appear that had much traction with the voters . so, traction with the voters. so, no, i mean, i think overall you have to look at last night as two brilliant labour campaigns , two brilliant labour campaigns, people went for the only viable alternative to the tory government . people have shown government. people have shown their disappointment with the tories and they've shown that they believe that the changed labour party is getting ready for government . for government. >> okay. steve mccabe, labour mp , thanks for joining >> okay. steve mccabe, labour mp , thanks forjoining us. i'm , thanks for joining us. i'm glad that i made you laugh three times in that interview. i think you're clearly in a good mood. enjoyed the moment. steve mccabe , thank you for joining enjoyed the moment. steve mccabe , thank you forjoining us on , thank you for joining us on the in a few minutes the show. now in a few minutes i'll talk about the made up comments from sadiq khan that he said caused serious said could have caused serious disorder. but first, in a new gb news series , innovation britain, news series, innovation britain, we're looking at the successes of british manufacturing around a marvellous country.

>> today we are at middle sex aerospace in beijing , stoke, and aerospace in beijing, stoke, and i'm joined by lawrence folds, the owner of the business, and i want to find out, lawrence , why want to find out, lawrence, why engineering is so , so important engineering is so, so important to the uk . to the uk. >> well, engineering and aerospace engineering in particular produces a whole series of very well paid, interesting jobs. >> um, the products that were made in this factory ultimately speaking, pretty much all go abroad . abroad. >> and, uh, even though they're integrated into systems in this country. >> but they'll wind up in airbus, boeing and other major aircraft facilities around the world. >> so exporting is really important. are we becoming competitive globally ? competitive globally? >> we remain competitive globally. um, just because areas

have got, uh, have got cheap laboun have got, uh, have got cheap labour, it doesn't mean that there are very good at producing sophisticated components. >> that that we do here >> and it's that that we do here is produce technology at the is to produce technology at the very of, of manufacturing. >> and how are we addressing the skills gap and how important is this? >> we've had our own apprenticeship programme every year since 1950. >> so we continue to train here, um, train our own apprentices and build our build the skills of our own, of our own people and that's been really key to our success over the years. our success over the years. >> our success over the years. >> um, and as a national, um, as a national thing, training and education for, um, for all the people is for all of our people is very important. >> i mean, it's very much a truth to say that if you think education is expensive, try ignorance

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this friday afternoon. now next hour i'll speak to a labour mp and i'll be joined by reform uk candidates. ben habib, deputy leader of the party, to get their reaction to last night's by—election result . but before by—election result. but before that, what on earth is going on at john lewis first, the uk's favourite department store started selling sex toys earlier this week and now in its in—house magazine, it's giving advice on breast binders for children . when you heard that children. when you heard that right, i'm joined now by the commentator and writer james s james. welcome to the show. it's always a pleasure. this is a story that you broke that came to you. what on earth is going on? share with gb news, please . on? share with gb news, please. >> i mean, what's gone on? can only be described as a kind of diatribe of ideological propaganda from the upper echelons of john lewis . they echelons of john lewis. they don't seem to give a damn about their workforce, or indeed their

customers, or anyone who disagrees with them, that a man can become a woman, or that children should be given breast binders . i mean, it's really binders. i mean, it's really quite concerning . quite concerning. >> specific advice seems >> and the specific advice seems to once again have been shoehorned in to john lewis by the same old organisation. stone wall and mermaids. is this an example? james of yet another institution, yet another brand that's been captured by this trans ideology? and if so, why now? >> oh, completely . >> oh, completely. >> oh, completely. >> and they're quite proud of it. i mean, they make a whole song dance about how well song and dance about how well they fared in stone walls , you they fared in stone walls, you know, ranking scheme know, employer ranking scheme and all the rest of it. you know , the fact that they're referring parent of quite vulnerable to an vulnerable children to an organisation. mermaids that's being investigated by the charity commission for safeguarding , really safeguarding concerns, really has to make you question what on earth is going on here? and i think really, it's not just shamelessly pursuing profit through virtue signalling, although i believe that's part of it. but i think part of it is

simply senior simply that the senior management lewis really management and john lewis really believe this stuff. that's believe this stuff. and that's even actually, even more concerning, actually, because it flies in the face of what know to be reality. what we know to be reality. >> but james, another thing that comes to the fore here is they they're of with they're out of touch with reality, with their customer base. james has been a massive backlash to this . i've noticed backlash to this. i've noticed today on the conservative websites, on the daily telegraph, on the daily mail, mainstream newspapers, customers withdrawing their their custom, their loyalty cards getting thrown in the bin. there seems to be a bit of a backlash to this. james i know, and you think they would take heed of that, but seemingly not. >> i mean, boycott john lewis has been trending on on twitter. i've you know, seen thousands of messages from customers saying they won't shop there anymore. i mean, i myself was a former customer. i enjoyed, you know, frequenting waitrose on a weekly basis. but i've said to my wife, no more, know, we go no more, you know, we cannot go there they're pushing this there while they're pushing this type staff and,

type of nonsense on staff and, and but they and customers. um, but they don't care. the don't seem to care. and the statement that they've put out in response all this in response to all of this is extremely defensive. and they attempt and justify what attempt to try and justify what they've done. i say we they've done. um, so i say we vote with our feet and them vote with our feet and hit them in the where it's really in the pocket where it's really going but james, going to hurt. but james, you know, top of the army, know, from the top of the army, the navy, the home office, the church and down to church of england and down to department stores, this now seems to be james, a complete orthodoxy , a new ideology, a orthodoxy, a new ideology, a religion, even, and it's omnipresent . omnipresent. >> i mean, complete silly, um, and, you know, part of the issue is that people feel far too afraid to question it. >> you know, i was contacted by a mother of her son who just started working at john lewis a few months ago, and on his second shift, uh, his kind of supervising staff member asked him where his pronoun badge was . him where his pronoun badge was. and when he asked whether it was mandatory to wear one of these, the response was , well, no, it's the response was, well, no, it's not mandatory. but if you don't wear considered to be wear one, it's considered to be transphobic this is the type transphobic. so this is the type of fear of god that we are

putting people. they of fear of god that we are putti out people. they of fear of god that we are putti out of people. they of fear of god that we are putti out of line ple. they of fear of god that we are puttiout of line and they of fear of god that we are puttiout of line and dare zy of fear of god that we are puttiout of line and dare to say step out of line and dare to say things controversial man things as controversial as a man cannot woman. but cannot become a woman. um, but that's kind of the fear that's being created out there, which is why people have to out is why people have to speak out and otherwise and step up, because otherwise it going to change. >> i think you're right, james. and this this happens at my son's he was 13. son's school when he was 13. there teacher said, you need to put the pronouns on the front of your book. and my boy came home. he daddy, what do? he said, daddy, what do i do? i said, well, do you want to said, well, what do you want to do? he well, don't do? he said, well, i don't really want do it, but i feel really want to do it, but i feel if i don't it, i'll be if i don't do it, i'll be labelled a transphobe and i'll be ostracised and i'll my be ostracised and i'll lose my friendship group. isn't that friendship group. so isn't that the even the problem? james that even if people they the problem? james that even if pe0jthis they the problem? james that even if pe0jthis is they the problem? james that even if pe0jthis is wrong, they're they feel this is wrong, they're simply afraid speak out? simply too afraid to speak out? well well, of course. >> and the casualties are there to see. i mean, how many people have lost their jobs? kicked have lost theirjobs? uh, kicked off university courses? i mean, i myself have victim of i myself have been a victim of this, know, then having this, you know, and then having to in litigation on to spend years in litigation on the of discrimination the basis of discrimination against their beliefs. um, so, yes , but we, you know, we do yes, but we, you know, we do have to kind of push back and turn the tide against this. but

my concern is for my biggest concern is for children, and that's why i really comment really honed in on this comment around breast binders, because, i abhorrent i mean, what an abhorrent disgrace for a bunch of people who have qualifications in who have no qualifications in medicine to be medicine or therapy to be suggesting that the you know, the answer a young girl's the answer to a young girl's disease in her body is to bind her breasts? mean, it's an her breasts? i mean, it's an utter there utter disgrace. actually, there are other words it. james says. >> i think many people will agree with you. thank you very much for joining agree with you. thank you very much forjoining us on the show much for joining us on the show today. and do have that today. and we do have that comment spokesperson for comment a spokesperson for the john said they john lewis partnership said they are place people john lewis partnership said they ar

serious disorder. and joining me now to discuss this is the philosopher doctor henry shelby. welcome to the show , doctor welcome to the show, doctor shelby. so we're hearing more and more about this . are they and more about this. are they likely to affect the outcomes of elections, though it's certainly possible. >> but i should also stress that misinformation in its current form may be a new in some ways, but as a phenomenon, misinformation has been around for a long time. misinformation has been around for a longtime. um, any of your for a long time. um, any of your viewers in hartlepool might be familiar with the story of h'angus the monkey, the shipwrecked monkey who was hanged by the residents of hartlepool under the belief he was a frenchman. >> that story is itself, interestingly, a of an interestingly, a bit of an example misinformation, interestingly, a bit of an example misinformation , and example of misinformation, and we've cases in we've had many other cases in history caused by history of panics caused by false rumours and so forth. and evenin false rumours and so forth. and even in other domains like photography . we've people may photography. we've people may be familiar fact that familiar with the fact that stalin famously edited his political opponents of political opponents out of photographs. misinformation photographs. so misinformation is old as there have been is as old as there have been human communities. >> and in even in this case, it

would have been entirely possible. >> of course, for someone to have done simply a good impersonation of sadiq and impersonation of sadiq khan and recorded , all of that recorded that now, all of that said, i certainly making it much easier for people to produce misinformation at scale . misinformation at scale. >> we saw just yesterday openai reveal their new video creation tool. so ira, which is not available to the general public yet, but it looks like it can create pretty much perfect video. >> so once these tools do start to make their way into the populace, we probably will see a new flood of this kind of material. >> okay , superb. >> okay, superb. >> okay, superb. >> we're going to have leave >> we're going to have to leave it because we've it there simply because we've run thank you, run out of time. thank you, philosopher henry philosopher doctor henry shefflin encroachment of shefflin on the encroachment of the deep fake i. and i think it will be a part of the political back back scape to the next election. we saw keir starmer , a election. we saw keir starmer, a fake of him having a barney on a staff member turn out to be completely fake . and it has to completely fake. and it has to be said, the sadiq khan was pretty convincing thing. now moving on. six migrants have been taken to hospital after they were found in back of a they were found in the back of a

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>> good afternoon, it's 4 pm. happy friday and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. >> today we'll cross live to newhaven , where six migrants newhaven, where six migrants have been taken to hospital after they were found in the back of a lorry . after they were found in the back of a lorry. i'll after they were found in the back of a lorry . i'll take a back of a lorry. i'll take a look back on yet another miserable night for rishi sunak after the tories lost two more crucial by elections and prince harry just can't keep his trap shut, can he? this time he's been talking to american television about the king's illness, as you do , and he's illness, as you do, and he's hinted that it could lead to a reconciliation with his father. but there's good news. he might become an american citizen and stay over there. that's all. coming in your next hour.

stay over there. that's all. coming in your next hour . so coming in your next hour. so welcome to the show. thank you for your company. it's always a privilege to have you get in touch all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. is it curtains for rishi sunak after those by elections last night? is there any way back could reform , resurge and take that reform, resurge and take that vote away from the conservatives well i have ben habib, the guy who stood in wellingborough last night, got 13% of the vote. a record by—election result for the reform party. he'll be sat in that chair next to me in about half an hour's time, and i'll say to him, actually, could you have done better? and are you have done better? and are you handing the keys to number 10 to sir keir starmer? gains its usual ways. let me know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. but first it's your latest news headunes but first it's your latest news headlines with sam francis .

headlines with sam francis. >> martin thank you very much. good afternoon from the gb newsroom. the headlines at 4:00. lord david cameron has said the russian president must be held accountable for the death of jailed russian politician alexei navalny. his comments come as the opposition leader's wife, yulia navalny, told the munich security conference earlier the death of her husband will not go unpunished. other international leaders, including vladimir zelenskyy , have also laid blame zelenskyy, have also laid blame on russia for mr navalny's death, a claim that's been echoed by the us and the eu, among others. the foreign secretary said it's another example of putin's dreadful regime . regime. >> well, alex navalny was an incredibly brave fighter against corruption and he gave up everything in campaigning for what he believed in. and my heart goes out to his wife and to his family. and we should be clear about what has happened here. putin says russia imprisoned him , trumped up imprisoned him, trumped up charges against him , poisoned charges against him, poisoned him, sent him to a arctic penal

colony, and now he's tragically dying. >> and we should hold putin accountable . accountable. >> two men in east sussex have been arrested today, one on suspicion of people smuggling and the other for entering the uk illegally . that's after uk illegally. that's after a group of migrants were found earlier in the back of a freezer lorry newhaven. six people lorry in newhaven. six people have since been taken to hospital , though understand hospital, though we understand no have been reported no fatalities have been reported at this stage . the discovery in at this stage. the discovery in the east sussex port this morning sparked a major emergency response, with ambulances, police and border force attending . they are still force attending. they are still at that scene, continuing their investigations . the leader of investigations. the leader of scottish labour says the tories are edging closer to what he's called the far right crank fest after his party scored a double win in by elections overnight. anas sarwar comments come after the tories suffered two defeats. jen kitchen snatched wellingborough with a 45.8% of the vote, the second largest swing from conservatives to labourin swing from conservatives to labour in a by—election since

the second world war. and that was just two hours after labour's damien egan also won kingswood with just under 45% of the vote. the labour leader , sir the vote. the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says those results show the country does want change. >> we're very pleased with the by—election results from last night. i think it's very clear that people are crying out for change across the country. um, they think that the tories have failed. they can see that most things are broken. they look at the labour party and see a changed party. and last night people who hadn't voted labour before went out and voted laboun before went out and voted labour. so i'm very pleased with both of those results . but there both of those results. but there is more work to do. there's a long way to go . long way to go. >> meanwhile, the prime minister, rishi sunak, has admitted that while the circumstances facing his party are challenging, he's insisted that labour doesn't have a plan . that labour doesn't have a plan. >> midterms by elections are always difficult for incumbent governments and the circumstances of these by elections were, of course, particularly challenging . seeing particularly challenging. seeing now, i think if you look at the

results, very low turnout and it shows that we've got work to do to show people we are to show people that we are delivering their priorities. delivering on their priorities. and i'm absolutely and that's what i'm absolutely determined to do, but also shows that amount that there isn't a huge amount of enthusiasm for the alternative in keir starmer and the party . and that's the labour party. and that's because don't have plan. because they don't have a plan. and have a plan, and if you don't have a plan, you deliver real change. and if you don't have a plan, you when deliver real change. and if you don't have a plan, you when the fer real change. and if you don't have a plan, you when the general:hange. and if you don't have a plan, you when the general election and when the general election comes, that's the message i'll be making the country. stick be making to the country. stick with because is with our plan because it is starting deliver change starting to deliver the change that needs i >> -- >> in other news, dentists from overseas could be allowed into the uk faster under new plans to cut red tape and boost appointments. the government's proposing new powers for the regulator to streamline the registration of some dentists who qualified outside the uk and under current regulations , under current regulations, they're required to pass an exam before they can start working. it's hoped new move will it's hoped the new move will speed recruitment and entice speed up recruitment and entice more talent to the nhs, more overseas talent to the nhs, but the british dental association has dismissed the plan . they it wasn't enough plan. they say it wasn't enough to fix what it called leaky to fix what it called a leaky bucket . in royal news, prince

bucket. in royal news, prince harry has suggested that the king's cancer, diagnosed this could lead to a reconciliation within the royal family. speaking to the good morning america program in the us, the duke of sussex said that he loved his father and he was grateful to have spent time with him during fleeting visit to him during a fleeting visit to london told london last week. but he told abc will abc news correspondent will reeve the conversations he's had with his father about his health will remain private . will remain private. >> i jumped on a plane and went to go and see him as soon as i could. how was that visit for you emotionally? um, look, i love i love my family. the fact that i was the fact that i was able to get on a plane and go and him and spend any time and see him and spend any time with him, i'm grateful for that. what's your on what's sort of your outlook on on that stays between on his health that stays between me and him? >> an illness in the family can have galvanising or sort of have a galvanising or sort of reunifying effect family. reunifying effect for a family. is possible? this case? is that possible? in this case? yeah, i'm sure. >> you know, i've >> i mean, you know, i've throughout these families, throughout all these families, i see a day to day see it on a, on a day to day bafis see it on a, on a day to day basis and to greece where couples are racing to registry

offices after it became the first country with a christian orthodox majority to legalise same sex marriage, at least one nofice same sex marriage, at least one notice appeared in an athens newspaper today with details of planned nuptials, a step required under greek law. >> the historic decision was met with praise from lgbt campaigners and the prime minister of greece called it a milestone for human rights that reflects today's greece . for the reflects today's greece. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . if the qr code on your screen. if you're watching on television or if you're listening on radio, go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . alerts. >> thank you sam . we start the >> thank you sam. we start the show with the news that six migrants have now been taken to hospital after they were found in the back of a lorry at newhaven ferry port and two men have been arrested in relation to that. and let's cross now to

newhaven ferry port and join our south east of england. reporter ray addison rae . a horrific case ray addison rae. a horrific case developing quickly. what's the latest . we've heard from local latest. we've heard from local mp for lewes , maria caulfield? mp for lewes, maria caulfield? >> she understands that there was an alert on board the seven sisters ferry as it was travelling over from dieppe . travelling over from dieppe. that four hour journey this morning here to the port of new haven. and so when the ferry arrived here at the port, emergency services and police, border force were all here waiting for it. border force were all here waiting for it . locals waiting for it. locals describing the scene as absolutely flooded with with emergency services . of course, emergency services. of course, that major response , in reaction that major response, in reaction to reports of six migrants being found in the back of what's been described as a refrigerator lorry here on the seven sisters ferry, now , uh, of course, ferry, now, uh, of course, mainly freight travels in here

to the new haven port. and there had been previous concern over migrants there used to be a migrants there used to be a migrant camp at the port of dieppe and of course, this port only services, uh, boats going back and forth to dieppe. and so that had been a problem before. so they had issue, however, so they had that issue, however, increasingly been cut increasingly that had been cut down security had been down on as security had been improved. and so we're being told there will be a full told that there will be a full investigation into exactly the circumstances of how these migrants have got onto the boat here today. we know that two men have been arrested, one on suspicion of facilitating illegal entry to the united kingdom , another on suspicion of kingdom, another on suspicion of entering the country illegally. they're now in custody. and those six migrants taken to hospital, we're told that they could be very unwell. and of course, there will be a lot of concern about their health. and we spoke earlier to the mp for lewes, maria caulfield . this is lewes, maria caulfield. this is what she had to say. >> my constituency office is just across river, really just across the river, really from the and from the from the port and from the ferry. the ferry ferry. we see the ferry routinely come in and um,

routinely come in and out. um, about 11:00, we could hear about 11:00, uh, we could hear helicopters flying over, which is unusual here. um, is very unusual for here. um, and we were worried it was one of the fisher fishing boats that had into trouble, and had gotten into trouble, and they doing some they were maybe doing some search rescue, but it became search and rescue, but it became apparent was really related apparent it was really related to and to the ferry to the port and to the ferry itself. then we saw itself. and then we saw emergency services arriving. border force , uh, police, border force, uh, police, ambulances . and so it became ambulances. and so it became apparent there was something particularly happening at the ferry do know at the ferry here. we do know at the moment there's about six people who've hospital. who've been taken to hospital. i don't condition they don't know what condition they are we also know there are in, but we also know there have been some arrests as well around illegal entry the around illegal entry into the country. the ferry has now country. and the ferry has now left. left very late compared left. it left very late compared to would normally to when it would normally leave. but has a helicopter but there has been a helicopter circulating around even after the ferry left , perhaps looking the ferry left, perhaps looking for people who may have escaped or kind of surveying or for just kind of surveying the area in general. >> well, maria caulfield telling us that she's also seen helicopters circling around the new haven port, she said she suspects that there could have been concern that one or more

migrants may have managed to evade security services here at the port of new haven , may then the port of new haven, may then therefore be looking for them. but she's trying to reassure locals , uh, that that of their locals, uh, that that of their safety and say that this kind of thing is extremely rare here at new haven . new haven. >> thank you. read us an alarming story. new haven ferry port . six alarming story. new haven ferry port. six migrants in the back of a lorry, two arrests. and of course, we'll have all the latest on that throughout the show . and now to the fallout show. and now to the fallout from another terrible night for the tories . and rishi sunak is the tories. and rishi sunak is even under more pressure after the government lost two crucial by elections . the conservatives by elections. the conservatives were defending majority of 18,000. in wellingborough and 11,000 in kingswood, and both seats fell to labour last night. well, i'm joined now in our studio by our political correspondent olivia lee. olivia, there's no dressing this up in a good manner. it was carnage . um, a record swing

carnage. um, a record swing since world war ii. in wellingborough to previously thought of a safe seat for owing to labour, it was bedlam . to labour, it was bedlam. >> well, absolutely. it was a terrible night for the conservatives there are all sorts of terrible stats. uh, the conservatives have now lost eight by—election in this parliament. that's more than any since 1994. uh, if the wellingborough result was replicated across the country . replicated across the country. so a swing of 28.4% or whatever it was, uh , to labour, then the it was, uh, to labour, then the conservatives would be down to just 15 seats. the only i mean, it was obviously a fantastic night for labour, the only sort of fly in the ointment for keir starmer is that turnout was pretty low. it was under 40. and looking at the breakdown of the results, it seems as though quite a lot of conservative voters in the 2019 election didn't switch over to labour. they simply stayed at home or in some cases, they voted for

reform , reform, realise some of reform, reform, realise some of those polling , uh, wins in this, those polling, uh, wins in this, in those by elections last night they leapfrogged the lib dems in both constituencies coming in third place with sort of 13% of the vote. and we can see that reform, um, are splitting reform, um, are now splitting the tory vote. all of that said , the tory vote. all of that said, basically top line terrible night for the tories. and really a very , very good night for laboun >> superb. and to discuss this further, i'm now joined by the shadow minister for creative industries sir industries and digital, sir chris bryant. so sir chris, welcome to the show . so enormous welcome to the show. so enormous swings to the labour party last night, 28.5% in wellingborough. the biggest swing since world war two. it would now seem chris, there's no such thing as a safe conservative seat . you a safe conservative seat. you must be delighted at labour party hq today. >> yes, obviously we're very pleased. >> i've been helping out in the kingswood by—election for the last few weeks, and that was one that came completely out of the blue. >> we suddenly had go from

>> we suddenly had to go from 0 to in just a couple of weeks. to 70 in just a couple of weeks. and it was interesting. we spoke to voters in to about 21,000 voters in kingswood , and i disagree with kingswood, and i disagree with olivia about one point. the thing you know , she's certainly thing you know, she's certainly right, that obviously some conservative voters stayed at home, conservative voters home, some conservative voters decided to reform . but i decided to vote reform. but i met a lot of people who had switched directly from conservative to labour on one round. i've never had this before in my time. i've been an mp for a long time. i've been campaigning for the labour party since 1980s. i had i had since the 1980s. i had i had eight switched years in one round, one 90 minute round. that's eight people who'd gone voted conservative all their life, including in the tony blair years, decided to vote labour this time . and what was labour this time. and what was also interesting was that this is a seat in kingswood, which we last won in 2005. that's nine, 18 years ago. so there were people voting yesterday who were born after we last won that seat in kingswood. and incidentally .

in kingswood. and incidentally. the kingswood seat has been made more difficult since 2005 for labour because there have been boundary also boundary changes. also interesting . um, this might be interesting. um, this might be particularly interesting for gb news, i guess, that 50% of news, i guess, is that 50% of the seats in kingswood goes into jacob rees—mogg's , um, jacob rees—mogg's, um, parliamentary seat come the general election . and if i were general election. and if i were him, i would be very worried. talking about gb news presenters , sir chris, do you think it'd be a good idea for you to send a bottle of champagne to nigel farage? >> after all the reform party or doing you a great favour? are they not? i have ben habib on they not? i have ben habib on the show. should shortly. it seems they're paving the way for sir starmer and yourself to sir keir starmer and yourself to get into number 10. are you going to send a bottle of bubbly to nigel? >> once bought i in fact >> i once bought i in fact several times i bought nigel pints over the years, as it happens, and i think we've shared a few bottles of wine many years ago when i worked for the bbc. ironically enough. but and was a member the and he was a member of the european parliament. how european parliament. funny how things look i think the

things change. look i think the big that really told for big thing that really told for people the doorstep was the people on the doorstep was the cost of living crisis and you know that the announcement came out richie's recession out about richie's recession yesterday . which people yesterday morning. which people had sort of thought might be on the cards. the thing is, people knew and they didn't need the cards. the thing is, people kneyto and they didn't need the cards. the thing is, people kneyto announcey didn't need the cards. the thing is, people kneyto announcey (oi'ii'l need the cards. the thing is, people kneyto announcey (on the eed the cards. the thing is, people kneyto announcey (on the news. you to announce it on the news. they in their pockets they knew it in their pockets because people spent less at christmas. they spent less on christmas. they spent less on christmas they spent christmas presents. they spent less weekly shop less in their weekly shop because that because they know that everything more. and everything is costing more. and that we've seen people know that they are poorer now than when rishi sunak entered downing street. so yes, in one sense i agree with some of the criticism, um, that, um, that nigel farage and others have issued to the conservative party, they haven't said they haven't done what they said they would do . um, debt is actually would do. um, debt is actually up, not down, down. inflation is down a but it's still down a bit, but it's still riding 4. and that's on top riding at 4. and that's on top of ten and 11% that we had of the ten and 11% that we had in previous and people in previous years. and people are feeling poorer. the nhs waiting list has got longer and honestly it feels like there's a

massive row going on in the conservative party on a daily bafis conservative party on a daily basis , 190 conservative party on a daily basis ,190 tory mps have been basis, 190 tory mps have been ministers in this parliament, 190 and that's 16 housing ministers. no wonder they never get anything done. they just keep on switching around. the ministers . ministers. >> so, chris, do you think it's fair to say when you look at the turnout last night, we are seeing progressively lower turnout at by elections , 28% turnout at by elections, 28% down since . 2019. and the none down since. 2019. and the none of the above party seem to be the true winner last night. is there an argument to be made that sir keir starmer is simply the least bad option ? the best the least bad option? the best opfion the least bad option? the best option is none of the above. >> uh, listen , if you've been >> uh, listen, if you've been out knocking with us yesterday afternoon when it started hammering down with rain from about 230 in the afternoon , about 230 in the afternoon, pretty much all the way through to 10:00, you would have understood why turnout wasn't particularly high. um, but look,

we worked hard , and i'm not we worked hard, and i'm not complacent at all about the general election. we won this election in kingswood and in wellingborough for a whole series of different reasons. one, of course , is that the tory one, of course, is that the tory party is falling apart. they're a rabble . um, you know, one of a rabble. um, you know, one of them was chucked out of parliament because he exposed himself to his staff and bullied them. and another was decided to leave parliament because he couldn't bring himself to vote leave parliament because he couthet bring himself to vote leave parliament because he couthe conservativeelf to vote leave parliament because he couthe conservative party vote for the conservative party anymore , despite being a anymore, despite being a conservative mp. so of course, that's not an ideal situation for the to able to for the tories to be able to win. i say nothing win. but i just say this nothing is inevitable in politics. we won, i think, because first of all, because keir starmer has shown that he's changed the labour party. it's not the same labour party. it's not the same labour party. it's not the same labour party as it was in 2019. maybe maybe, maybe if he can change the labour party , he can change the labour party, he can change the labour party, he can change britain for the good as well. and secondly, because we focussed on the issues, you know, the tory campaign was utterly dire. there was nothing positive in it at all. it was just an endless attack on our

candidate for his accent. just an endless attack on our candidate for his accent . since candidate for his accent. since when have we ever had a parliamentary by—election, which is fought just on somebody else's accent ? is fought just on somebody else's accent? um, we fought on. let's get more gps in the constituency and let's get more health, um, service, nhs operations and appointments. let's get more dentists and let's make sure people can see an nhs dentist and of course, it was next door to bristol where we saw that queue a couple of days ago. um, but i just think people think it's time for change. i suspect even nigel farage agrees with me on that one. >> well, maybe you'll agree . so >> well, maybe you'll agree. so much for chris bryant. you'll send him that bottle of fizz after all. if you want, i'll drop you the address to gb news hq. very for hq. thank you very much for joining us, chris bryant, joining us, sir chris bryant, and victories . thanks and enjoy your victories. thanks and enjoy your victories. thanks a mate. thank you. cheers a lot, mate. thank you. cheers okay. moving it's time for okay. moving on. it's time for the giveaway. and the great british giveaway. and you our next you really could be our next winner with £18,000 in cash from us. you fancy a chance to win it? well, here's all the details that enter . that you need to enter. >> time is ticking on your

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following his cancer diagnosis last week after saying that sickness brings families together . could a royal together. could a royal reconciliation finally be on the cards or is it just yet more navel gazing ? pr i martin navel gazing? pr i martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

radio. >> welcome back. it's 424. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now later this hour i'll tell you why. someone has threatened to firebomb a cafe in scotland. it's an extraordinary story . but it's an extraordinary story. but before that, vladimir putin's biggest critic has died in prison. alexei navalny fell ill after a walk , almost immediately after a walk, almost immediately lost consciousness and died soon afterwards , according to prison afterwards, according to prison authorities . the president of authorities. the president of the european council said the european union holds russia

solely responsible for his death, and the president of latvia said mr navalny had been brutally murdered by the kremlin. well to discuss this further, i'm now joined by stefan stepanenko, who is a commentator on russian politics. welcome to the show , stefan. welcome to the show, stefan. world leaders queuing up to firmly point the finger of blame at vladimir putin. what's the truth ? truth? >> hello, martin. well, first of all, i think i want to offer my condolences to the family of navalny. it's a difficult time for them. um, the most important thing for us to remember here is that no matter what the cause of death is said to be, he was killed in a russian prison. pfison killed in a russian prison. prison where he was held on trumped up charges and held for two years in solitary confinement illegally. um, so he died because of putin and his actions, no matter what the cause of death. um, the other thing to remember is that we are going to have elections in russia very soon. and putin is

clearing his field now. it's not to say that navalny was going to run, let alone win, because as he's in prison , uh, but putin he's in prison, uh, but putin not only thought that, um, he was enough of a threat, but also he still lives by this , um, he still lives by this, um, thieves code of the roaring 90s of russia, where you have to be perceived as a strong man and a strong man cannot have opposition except especially somebody as lowly as navalny . somebody as lowly as navalny. but, um, we also have to remember that especially for britain, we have a british national, uh, vladimir kara—murza, now in prison in russia. and it is entirely possible that he may be next. >> and is there any chance this chilling message that gets sent out here, stefan, is there any chance that anybody can possibly step up and be a legitimate political opponent to vladimir putin? they just always seem to end up dead and well, uh, back

in, uh, the summer of 21, biden did warn that there's going to be severe consequences for russia if navalny dies. >> navalny has been killed. it isfime >> navalny has been killed. it is time for biden to step up something that perhaps they didn't do enough in february 22nd. it is their chance again. now one of the ways to do it is, is to use the sanctions that that, uh, america is putting on russia, increase those sanctions , but let people in russia, oligarchs in russia come out of them if they support ukraine financially , uh, they state it financially, uh, they state it and, and, uh, sway the opinion of those in russia who have the money, who have the ability to topple putin through , uh, topple putin through, uh, possible release , uh, of assets possible release, uh, of assets and release from sanctions . and release from sanctions. >> okay. thank you very much for that summary on the death of alexei navalny . and that was alexei navalny. and that was stefan stepanenko , a commentator stefan stepanenko, a commentator on russian politics. now, prince

harry just can't help himself, can he ? he's at it again. and he can he? he's at it again. and he suggested that the king's illness could lead to a reconciliation with his father . reconciliation with his father. i'm joined now by the royal biographer, angela levin, to go over this. angela, welcome to the show once again . so on this the show once again. so on this topic , harry is finally broken. topic, harry is finally broken. his silence as you do on prime time american television . time american television. >> varne yes, i mean, we can now tell that he actually popped over to see his father, so that he could do this interview to make some money and talk about invictus games. you can see that there's a pattern there, and that's what he's fallen for. it is so irritating, though . is so irritating, though. however, i mean, he behaves like a teenager and when he says , you a teenager and when he says, you know, what's he worried about? his father ? oh, i love my his father? oh, i love my family. you know, it's all very flippant. it's not very caring . flippant. it's not very caring. it's all superficial and when he says, you know how is your

father ? um, and he says in reply father? um, and he says in reply , um, it's between him and me. now, when you can bet a lot of money that king charles didn't give him any information whatsoever , because he, you whatsoever, because he, you know, that he you can't he can't be trusted . and the other thing be trusted. and the other thing he said the same thing about the queen, the late queen, when he said , oh, she knows that i'm the said, oh, she knows that i'm the only person she can talk about certain things now , um, both of certain things now, um, both of those is to sort of inflate his own , um, personality and how own, um, personality and how important it is. own, um, personality and how important it is . but in fact, is important it is. but in fact, is that the royal family are going on without him. they can't think too much about him because he drones on about what's not fair and all that. so they just move on. >> and angela, there is one crumb of comfort though. it looks like he may apply for dual citizenship, which means he could stay in america. do us all a favour . a favour. >> yes, he could do that. but

he's open about that. he's given it a thought about. however, next week he's in, um, washington . been hearing about washington. been hearing about whether he's immigration records can be released. um, over his drug use. so he might not actually be able to do that . we actually be able to do that. we don't know whether he said anything about them or he hasn't or what their sort of line is, that he could come in or not. um, so what he did say at the end , which is very disturbing. end, which is very disturbing. he says the mission continues . he says the mission continues. choose. now, what is this mission? i know there's a huge mission? i know there's a huge mission to get rid of. um, most of the newspapers there are in this country , but i think he's this country, but i think he's got a different mission, and thatis got a different mission, and that is to have his own private royal family and have nothing to do with the royal family, which we saw yesterday when he , uh, we saw yesterday when he, uh, with a new website went up . and with a new website went up. and also the change the children's names to sussex. so i think that's what he means by his

mission. and it's just scary and unpleasant . unpleasant. >> okay. well, certainly mission impossible for him to keep his trap shut. angela levin, thank you very much for joining us trap shut. angela levin, thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on the show as ever. and there's loads more still to come between now and 5:00 and have an extraordinary story from edinburgh, where there have been threats to firebomb a cafe at the city's famous castle right after this , we've got ben habib after this, we've got ben habib in the hot seat in the studio. but first there's your latest news headlines with sam francis . news headlines with sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much. and good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. just gone 430. our top story this afternoon boris johnson has said the death of alexei navalny. plus urges russia into new depths of depravity. and he's accused vladimir putin of putting him to death . his comments come as the death. his comments come as the opposition leader's wife, yulia navalny, told the munich security conference earlier the death of her husband will not go

unpunished. other international leaders, including ukraine's vladimir zelenskyy, have also laid blame on russia for mr navalny's death , a claim that's navalny's death, a claim that's been echoed by the us and the eu. here in the uk, the foreign secretary, lord david cameron, says it's another example of putin's dreadful regime . two men putin's dreadful regime. two men have been arrested after a group of migrants were found in the back of a freezer lorry in east sussex. six people have since been taken to hospital . we been taken to hospital. we understand no deaths have been reported at this stage that discovery at newhaven port this morning sparked a major emergency response , with border emergency response, with border force still at the scene. continue their investigations . continue their investigations. two damaging by—election defeats have piled pressure on the prime minister rishi sunak. but labour says the double win is evidence that it's a government in waiting overnight. jen kitchen snatched wellingborough with just over 45% of the vote. that's the second largest by—election swing from conservative to labour since the second world war, and that

result came just two hours after labour's damien egan also won in kingswood with just under 45. in other news, a woman has been jailed for seven years for assisting someone to carry out female genital mutilation on a three year old child, 48 year old amina handed over a british girl to a non uk citizen during a trip to kenya in 2006. we understand she is the first person to be convicted of taking someone to another country for fgm, which the judge in that case described as a truly horrific and abhorrent crime . horrific and abhorrent crime. prince harry has suggested that the king's cancer diagnosis could lead to a reconciling session in the royal family. speaking to the good morning america programme in the us, the duke of sussex said he was grateful to spend time with his father during a fleeting visit to london last week . but he says to london last week. but he says the conversations about the king's health will remain private . for the latest stories, private. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news

alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts . news. com forward slash alerts. >> thank you sam. now reform uk leader richard tice says his party is on the up. leader richard tice says his party is on the up . they party is on the up. they finished third in yesterday's two by elections. but is that as good as it's going to get for them. well after this i'll have ben habib. he's right next to me now in the studio. the deputy leader of the reform party in the seat. i'm martin daubney the hot seat. i'm martin daubney on britain's news on gb news, britain's news channel.

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them? but before that, whilst yesterday was undoubtedly calamitous for the conservative party, it was a very strong night for reform uk who claim came a clear third in both wellingborough and in kingswood. the party got over 10% of the vote in both constituencies, whilst support for the liberal democrats sank like a stone as they lost both of their deposits in those seats . the ed davey in those seats. the ed davey factor is rubbing off well. join me now in the studio is the man who stood for reform uk in wellingborough, ben habib, who of course is the deputy leader of course is the deputy leader of the party. welcome to the show . so in the by—election last show. so in the by—election last night you stood, you got 13% of the vote reform uk's best ever by—election results. how do you feel ? feel? >> can i just first say what a delight it is to be back on gb news? you know when you're fighting an election you're kept in purdah. so this is my this is my coming out. i was on with patrick christys and a bit in the, you know, in the counting room . but um, this is properly

room. but um, this is properly in, in the studio having a proper interview and it's wonderful to be here. >> you're welcome. now get on with it. how's it feel? it feels great. >> um, you know , when you enter >> um, you know, when you enter a race, you want to win it, don't you? you absolutely swing the bat in order to win. we obviously didn't win, but the third place that we got was the best ever election result of any description that the reform uk has had . and you rememberjust a has had. and you rememberjust a few months ago in tamworth, we got just over 5. a few months later we're getting 13. nearly three times as much. so a dramatic shift in the way people perceive reform. and of course every time we make a bridgehead, we move on to something else. uh, all the noise around our performance yesterday, both rupert lowe's performance in kingswood and mine in in wellingborough advances, the party advances the cause, establishes the principle which is critical, martin, that people realise there is a third party for which they can vote. you

know, the two main legacy parties , i call them the legacy parties, i call them the legacy parties, i call them the legacy parties, the old parties, the parties, the old parties, the parties that have delivered the united kingdom to the precipice of disaster . they seem to united kingdom to the precipice of disaster. they seem to think that the baton should be just exchanged seamlessly between them. but no, there is a new force in party politics and it is reform. >> i've got to put it to you. 13% is a respectable turnout, but it's not as good as ukip did in the same seat in 2015. they got 19. we've got a tory party on its knees. they were. they're ripe for the taking. is13% really good enough? is it cutting through enough at this stage? >> ben rotten i came from a standing start on the 3rd of january, when i put my hat in the ring, the odds were 66 to 1. when i put my hat in the ring. by when i put my hat in the ring. by the time it came round to the actual, uh, by—election, the voting day i was 7 to 1. it was a dramatic sukh campaign. we went from not being recognised or known in, in wellingborough to actually be on the last day .

to actually be on the last day. um, we, you know, we went around in the open top bus and people were waving at me and saying, hello ben. how are you today? you know, huge change. and i'm going to stand there again in wellingborough in the general election. i'm not going to election. and i'm not going to turn back the good people turn my back on the good people of wellingborough. to of wellingborough. i'm going to go going to go and visit and i'm going to develop between now develop our case between now and, know, whenever the and, you know, whenever the general election is and make sure that we've got an agenda for the people of wellingborough, for the country , wellingborough, for the country, or of course, you know, a lot of the things that wellingborough suffers borne out of suffers from are borne out of bad national policy. but we need to how it is that bad to reveal how it is that bad national policies is having a material adverse effect on the people in wellingborough, and i'm going to do that between now and the general election. and i'll what, kitchen and the general election. and i'll generalwhat, kitchen and the general election. and i'll general harrison, kitchen and the general election. and i'll general harrison, ifiitchen and the general election. and i'll general harrison, if helen and general harrison, if helen harrison stands for the conservatives harrison stands for the co watch tives harrison stands for the cowatch out; harrison stands for the co watch out because reform is to watch out because reform is not stopping here. as said, not stopping here. as i said, this is a bridgehead. we're going use it to come forward going to use it to come forward again people of course, again a lot of people of course, are as night follows day are sure as night follows day are sure as night follows day are saying that reform is simply

splitting and letting splitting the vote and letting the in. the labour party in. >> um, is that true? is there anything in that? is there a feeling that what you're doing by away the conservative by taking away the conservative votes, would see it, is votes, as they would see it, is handing the to number 10 to handing the keys to number 10 to sir keir starmer? >> well, to me that the >> well, it seems to me that the conservative views anyone conservative party views anyone that takes vote splitting conservative party views anyone thatvote.s vote splitting the vote. >> they biggest of >> they the biggest split of vote conservatives have vote that the conservatives have got labour is from the got from the labour is from the labour you they labour party. you know, they take conservative votes, don't they? it's an they? i mean, it's a it's an extraordinary sense of self—entitlement that they think that these are their votes , that that these are their votes, that we've taken these are votes that have been cast by the british electorate in favour of reform uk because they like what we for . stand they voted in favour of our party, the conservative party has no right to these votes. the labour party has no right to these votes . you get right to these votes. you get lent them at each election by the british people . and we are the british people. and we are not a party that's going to be here today, gone tomorrow. there'll be no deals with the conservative party. we are here for terme . we provide

for the long terme. we provide a democratic alternative to the other parties, and we're not splitting anyone's vote. these are our votes. if the conservatives gets thumped in the next election, which is what everyone is predicting, it's because they failed the country . because they failed the country. it's because they failed to perform , because they brought perform, because they brought the country to the precipice of peril. they deserve to be thumped for doing that . thumped for doing that. >> did you find on the doorsteps this, um, a phenomenon that reflected a very low turnout across the two by elections? apathy or even anger? ann widdecombe was on the gb news election night special last night. she said that when she came to help campaign with you, a lot of people were like saying, i'll just clear off. i'm not in talking any not interested in talking to any of so of you. they're so disenfranchised, disengaged, disappointed british disappointed with british politicians they're staying politicians that they're staying at home, apathy being enemy. at home, apathy being the enemy. i i'd say i think it's not really apathy. >> i think it's great disillusionment, a lack of trust in the institutions which govern the country because of how

damaging the effects of governance has been on their lives over the last few years . lives over the last few years. and i have, you know, tremendous sympathy for them. the reason i'm in politics is because of the damage that's been done to the damage that's been done to the country. if we were being run by competent people with the british national interest and the british people's interests at heart, i wouldn't be in politics. and i think the, the, the optimistic side of this is that it the optimistic side of this is thatitis the optimistic side of this is that it is now getting established that it isn't simply a choice between the awful conservatives. on one side of the coin , to the awful labour the coin, to the awful labour party on the other side of the same coin, you know, they're sort of versions of each other, aren't they? um when you look at the conservative track record in office, national debt at a post—world war two, high taxation at a post—world war two, high 6 million people surviving on universal credit to a greater or less extent , the a greater or less extent, the country in recession , rampant country in recession, rampant immigration, these are all symptoms of having been governed

under socialist policies for a protracted period. and yet it's a conservative government and so i think reform uk offers a genuine third party to those voters who are disillusioned , voters who are disillusioned, who are upset with the way that the country has been governed. >> one final question, varne. you're a conservative, active richard tice of the conservative. nigel farage is conservative. nigel farage is conservative at heart. is this chess moves ahead about watching the tories implode at the general and then rebuilding the conservative party? maybe with you getting involved the you guys getting involved in the tory party, is that what this is about , or is tory party, is that what this is about, or is reform a general standalone party to take the fight to them? >> standalone no >> it is a standalone party. no deals with the conservative party. the conservative party has failed . if there are any has failed. if there are any genuine conservative in the conservative party, what i say to them is you're in the wrong party. we join reform uk, not that this is an invitation to any tory mps if they wish to join reform uk, they can get in line with everyone else. >> superb. ben obe, thank you very much for joining

>> superb. ben obe, thank you very much forjoining us. a rousing speech and well done on your turnout last night. good stuff. you. and please stuff. thank you. and please become on show. become a regular on the show. and back on gb news and now you're back on gb news how's it feel? >> wonder, said, >> yeah, it's wonder, as i said, it's like back it's like coming back to a family, if i may say that stuff. >> okay. you much, >> okay. thank you very much, ben now police are ben habib. now police are investigating threats investigating violent threats against castle cafe against an edinburgh castle cafe . hey, of all things, because scottish nationalists say its name . is offensive to scots. you name. is offensive to scots. you couldn't make it up. they're getting angry about a cafe. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's channel .

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election . channel welcome election. channel welcome back. >> it's 450. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news now at 5:00 i'll speak to a tory mp after yet another nightmare night for the government . now police are government. now police are investigating violent threats against an edinburgh castle cafe because scottish nationalists say its name is offensive to scots . the redcoats cafe is scots. the redcoats cafe is named after british redcoats soldiers and one post on x or twitter, as it was called, said the cafe deserves to be firebombed . and yes, a cafe firebombed. and yes, a cafe deserves to be firebombed. let's cross now to edinburgh and speak to freelance columnist alistair stewart. alistair really? it's a cafe . it's got a name that they cafe. it's got a name that they don't like. is it really worth bombing on that basis ? bombing on that basis? >> no, i don't think it is. and

i can't believe i actually have to say that on television. um, it would be a laughable story if not for the seriousness of what's going on in scotland. the timing is monstrously unfortunate, given that a recession been recession has just been declared, nevertheless, this recession has just been dea ared, nevertheless, this recession has just been dea talking nevertheless, this recession has just been dea talking point, rtheless, this recession has just been dea talking point, particularlys online. >> for some independence supporters , as it should be supporters, as it should be stressed that the snp themselves bar 1 stressed that the snp themselves bar1 or stressed that the snp themselves bar 1 or 2 stressed that the snp themselves bar1 or 2 disgruntled bar 1 or 2 disgruntled backbenchers, have largely distanced themselves from this story, but nevertheless it is fodder for an angry group online who are trying to make a story where, truth be told, there is none. this cafe has been in operation for at least 30 years and had this name. >> um, is no story but >> um, there is no story but stuff that they're trying to conjure and make things conjure up and make things difficult pro—unionist difficult for pro—unionist parties making something parties who are making something that sitting next that is sitting next to edinburgh . edinburgh. >> in edinburgh castle is a largely in there for largely harmless in there for families . largely harmless in there for families. innately largely harmless in there for families . innately political, families. innately political, it's desperate move . it's a desperate move. >> yeah. 30 years of trouble free trade now. they're getting so many negative reviews they've had to close down their online review system . but just to try

review system. but just to try and help us make some fragment of sense of this story. alastair, why are people so angry about the red cards? what do they do in scotland in the past? so angered past? that's so angered nationalists? now that is a very complicated question, but i'll keep it as simple as i can that there are certainly at the moment, a perceived sense of grievance that englishness and the union were forced on scotland and there are certain representations that that are representations of that that are more striking than others. >> red coats one of them. >> red coats is one of them. winston churchill is another. >> red coats is one of them. wiranything'chill is another. >> red coats is one of them. wiranything associatedyther. >> red coats is one of them. wiranything associated with the >> anything associated with the british empire is yet another. >> the list will go on and on and on. when it comes to a cafe that's in edinburgh and at edinburgh castle, we must remember that it a booming remember that it is a booming tourist destination for people and an easy target. and therefore an easy target. >> the thing most people >> the thing that most people forget, the forget, particularly in the british isles, is history is conflated and very selective. all you can have any argument about anything at any time because it's all over the place. the issue that we have here with scottish independence is you're

trying to take a very contemporary debate and just apply contemporary debate and just apply to different vignettes apply it to different vignettes in history. as you said in history. and as you said there, it's a cafe that's been in operation for 30 years. it just happens to have a disagreeable name and unfortunate that has turned into a threat of very serious violence. >> it's been investigated by police scotland and so this is dating back to grievances from the 18th century. >> but fast forward to the modern day. what's the momentum like for independence in scotland ? north of the border? scotland? north of the border? we're seeing the labour party doing tremendously well down here in by elections. but the snp, are they back on a resurgent move or not? >> no, they're in the back foot. we've passed we've just passed the anniversary of nicola sturgeon's resignation and her successor humza , has never regained humza yousaf, has never regained her popularity or recognition across the board . independence, across the board. independence, by and large, is something that pro—independence supporters talk about , but not something that's about, but not something that's about, but not something that's a serious policy debate at the moment. i think you'd be seriously hard pressed to find

anyone in scotland at the moment that would put that at the top of the list of concerns that they have when the nhs is in severe difficulty. are now in severe difficulty. we are now in a that there's a recession and that there's a lot of policy travails that which have been going on for years, continue to be years, which continue to be going forward . um, independence going forward. um, independence was once treated as the solution to all of these. but you'd be struggling find even many snp struggling to find even many snp msps member of parliament or supporters that think right now is the time for that to solve everything that's going on. >> there is a catalogue of struggling issues and a red coat cafe somehow is making it to the talking point of a coterie of troublemakers. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> anna stuart, thank you for joining us on gb news. i think you've absolutely nailed it on the head of all the things to get angry about. there's education, there's nhs, education, there's the nhs, there's there's there's drug addiction, there's crime, poverty , there's crime, there's poverty, there's dentistry, a list of dentistry, there's a list of stuff. as long as your arms in scotland to get about. and scotland to get angry about. and yet angry about a cafe. yet they're angry about a cafe. now rishi sunak had a nightmare night last night and two by

elections. labour won in wellingborough and also kingswood will have a full round up . i'm martin up after this. i'm martin daubney gb news. britain's daubney on gb news. britain's news . news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on gb solar, sponsors of weather on gb news . hello again solar, sponsors of weather on gb news. hello again i'm solar, sponsors of weather on gb news . hello again i'm alex news. hello again i'm alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast we do have some pretty wet weather on the cards as we go through later tomorrow , but for the time being tomorrow, but for the time being it's a largely dry picture. >> that's because we have >> that's because we do have a weak high pressure weak ridge of high pressure across the uk, and it's this that's quietened things down a little bit. that being said , little bit. that being said, there still some showery there are still some showery outbreaks rain at the outbreaks of rain around at the moment a few of these will moment and a few of these will continue as we go through the end day. some clear skies end of the day. some clear skies through the night, through the start of the night, particularly east, particularly towards the east, before thicker cloud before a swathe of thicker cloud pushes way into western pushes its way into western parts, this is likely to parts, and this is likely to bnng parts, and this is likely to bring outbreaks of bring some drizzly outbreaks of rain , particularly in the west. rain, particularly in the west. for , staying

for most, though, staying relatively mild, perhaps a little fresher than some recent nights. but temperatures many nights. but temperatures in many places up in high single places holding up in high single figures, not double digits figures, if not double digits the best chance any sunshine the best chance of any sunshine tomorrow across parts tomorrow will be across parts of scotland and east. first scotland and in the east. first thing, however , it is going to thing, however, it is going to turn increasingly cloudy as we go through the day, and so sunshine will become a bit more limited. few spots drizzly sunshine will become a bit more limi'for few spots drizzly sunshine will become a bit more limi'for a few spots drizzly sunshine will become a bit more limi'for a time spots drizzly sunshine will become a bit more limi'for a time before drizzly sunshine will become a bit more limi'for a time before this zzly rain for a time before this swathe of wetter weather feeds in from the west, and this could cause some localised flooding in in from the west, and this could cifew some localised flooding in in from the west, and this could cifew places.ocalised flooding in in from the west, and this could cifew places . calised flooding in in from the west, and this could cifew places . again, flooding in in from the west, and this could cifew places . again, alooding in in from the west, and this could cifew places . again, a mild1g in in from the west, and this could cifew places . again, a mild day a few places. again, a mild day temperatures are well above average for the time year. average for the time of year. highs around 15 or 16 highs of around 15 or 16 celsius. it's of celsius. it's a bit of uncertainty as to how quickly that rain pushes eastwards and clears but is likely to clears away, but it is likely to push as we go through push away as we go through sunday morning, could be sunday morning, but could be a wet at least in the wet start, at least in the southeast otherwise, sunday wet start, at least in the soutilook otherwise, sunday wet start, at least in the soutilook like rerwise, sunday wet start, at least in the soutilook like arwise, sunday wet start, at least in the soutilook like a largelyunday wet start, at least in the soutilook like a largely dryay does look like a largely dry day. just a few spots of rain around before something more unsettled comes next week. bye bye . bye. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news .

>> good afternoon. it's 5 pm. and a very happy friday afternoon to you. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news, broadcast live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk . westminster. all across the uk. todayi westminster. all across the uk. today i look back on yet another miserable night for rishi sunak after the tories lost two more crucial by elections ahead of a general election. of course , one general election. of course, one of the prime minister's five pledges is to stop the boats, but now the security services are worried that extremist are crossing the channel you don't say. and prince harry just can't keep his mouth shut, can he? this time he's been yapping away to american television prime time, about the king's illness, as you do. but the good news is, he may take up american citizenship, so he might stay in

california. and that's all coming up in your next hour. welcome to the show. and thank you for your company. it's always a pleasure and a privilege to have you on board. get in touch. all the usual ways. email me please gbviews@gbnews.com is there any way back for rishi after last night? is this a bellwether of things to come? are reform handing the keys to number 10 to sir keir starmer or the tories deserve all they get? please let me know your thoughts. we want to keep this conversation fast and spicy. get involved . this is and spicy. get involved. this is your show just as much as mine. but first, it's your latest news headunes but first, it's your latest news headlines with sam francis . headlines with sam francis. martin, thank you very much and good evening from the gb newsroom. >> it's just gone 5:00 and

leading the news this hour. bofis leading the news this hour. boris johnson has said that the death of alexei navalny plunges russia into new depths of depravity , as he accused depravity, as he accused vladimir putin of putting him to death. comments come as the death. his comments come as the opposition leader's wife, yulia navalny, told the munich security conference the death of her husband will not go unpunished . other international unpunished. other international leaders, including vladimir zelenskyy from ukraine, have also laid blame on russia for mr navalny's death, a claim that's been echoed by the us and the eu. here in the uk, the foreign secretary, lord david cameron, says it's another example of putin's dreadful regime. well alex navalny was an incredibly brave fighter against corruption and he gave up everything in campaigning for what he believed in and my heart goes out to his wife and to his family and we should be clear about what has happened here in putin's russia , happened here in putin's russia, imprisoned him on trumped up charges against him, poisoned him , sent him to a arctic penal him, sent him to a arctic penal colony, and now he's tragically

died. >> and we should hold putin accountable . accountable. >> in other news, we've learned today that two men have been arrested, one on suspicion of people smuggling and the other for entering the uk illegally. that's after a group of migrants were found in the back of a freezer lorry in new haven . six freezer lorry in new haven. six people have since been taken to hospital. we understand that no deaths been reported so far deaths have been reported so far . the discovery at the east sussex port this morning sparked a major emergency response, with ambulances and police rushing to the scene. border force are still there, continuing their investigations . still there, continuing their investigations. mp for still there, continuing their investigations . mp for lewes investigations. mp for lewes maria caulfield , whose maria caulfield, whose constituency office is in newhaven, told gb news that people smugglers are looking for other ways into the uk . other ways into the uk. >> there have been problems in the past , just before the small the past, just before the small boats were crossing , where boats were crossing, where migrants used to try and board the ferry. if you were kind of boarding in dieppe, you would see the authorities are extremely strict. there they check the lorries, they check all the lorries, they check all the lorries, they check the ferry itself. we have , check the ferry itself. we have, i've seen personally seen people

try board the ferry the try and board the ferry in the past and they've never been successful. we are worried successful. so we are worried that this has happened, but it shows because the government is cracking the small cracking down on the small boats. these people smugglers are looking for alternative routes such as the newhaven ferry, try and get people ferry, to try and get people into the country to damaging by—election defeats have piled pressure on the prime minister overnight. >> jen kitchen snatched wellingborough with just over 45% of the vote. that's the second largest by—election swing from conservative to labour since the second world war. and that result came just two hours after labour's damian egan also won in kingswood with just under 45% of the vote. labour leader sir keir starmer says the double win is evidence that his party is a government in waiting. he says. is a government in waiting. he says . but rishi is a government in waiting. he says. but rishi sunak has insisted they don't have a plan . insisted they don't have a plan. >> midterms by elections are always difficult for incumbent governments and the circumstance of these by elections were, of course, particularly challenging . now, i think if you look at the results, very low turnout

and it shows that we've got work to do to show people that we are delivering their priorities, to do to show people that we are deli'that's their priorities, to do to show people that we are deli'that's what eir priorities, to do to show people that we are deli'that's what i'm)riorities, to do to show people that we are deli'that's what i'm absolutely and that's what i'm absolutely determined to but also shows determined to do. but also shows that isn't amount that there isn't a huge amount of enthusiasm for the alternative in starmer and alternative in keir starmer and the party. and that's the labour party. and that's because they don't have a plan. and if don't a plan, and if you don't have a plan, you deliver real change. and if you don't have a plan, you when deliver real change. and if you don't have a plan, you when the yer real change. and if you don't have a plan, you when the general:hange. and if you don't have a plan, you when the general election and when the general election comes, i'll comes, that's the message i'll be the country. stick be making to the country. stick with because it is with our plan because it is starting the change with our plan because it is startthe the change with our plan because it is startthe country the change with our plan because it is startthe country wants change with our plan because it is startthe country wants and ge with our plan because it is startthe country wants and needs i >> -- >>a >> a woman has been jailed today for seven years assisting for seven years for assisting someone to carry out female genital mutilation on a three year old child, 40 year old amin nur handed over a british girl to a non—british citizen during a trip to kenya in 2006. she was sentenced at the old bailey in london earlier and it's the first conviction for taking someone to another country for fgm . the judge in that case fgm. the judge in that case described it as a truly horrific and abhorrent crime . dentists and abhorrent crime. dentists from overseas could be allowed into the uk faster under plans to cut red tape and boost

appointments. the government's proposing new powers for the regulator to streamline the registration of dentists who qualified outside the uk . under qualified outside the uk. under current regulations, they're required to pass an exam before they can start working. it's hoped that the new move will speed up recruitment and entice more overseas talent to the nhs , more overseas talent to the nhs, but the british dental association has dismissed the plan. they say it wasn't enough to fix what they've called a leaky bucket . in royal news, leaky bucket. in royal news, prince harry has suggested the king's cancer diagnosis could lead to a reconciliation in his family. speaking to the good morning america programme in the us, the duke of sussex said that he loved father and he was he loved his father and he was grateful to have spent time with him during a fleeting visit to london he told london last week. but he told abc correspondent will abc news correspondent will reeve the conversations he's had with his father about his health will private . will remain private. >> i jumped on a plane and went to go and see him as soon as i could. how was that visit for you emotionally? um, look, i love i love my family. the fact

that i was. the fact that i was able to get on a plane and go and see him and spend any time with him, i'm grateful for that. what your outlook on what sort of your outlook on on his health? between his health? that stays between me and him? >> illness the family can >> an illness in the family can have galvanising sort have a galvanising or sort of reunifying effect for a family. is possible in this case? is that possible in this case? >> i'm sure i mean, you >> yeah, i'm sure i mean, you know, i've throughout all these families, on a, on families, i see it on a, on a day to day basis . day to day basis. >> those are the headlines to keep across all the latest stories. you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code screen. or go to code on your screen. or go to news.com.au alerts . thank news.com.au alerts. thank you sam. >> now we start with the fallout from another terrible night for the tourists turn out to be a nightmare on downing street. rishi sunak is now under even more pressure after the government lost those two crucial by elections , as the crucial by elections, as the conservatives were defending majority of 18,000. in wellingborough and 11,000 in kingswood, and both seats fell

to labour last night. well, i'm joined in the studio once again by our political correspondent olivia. olivia, we've tried to window dress this or put a bit of sugar on top, but there's no sweetening the message to rishi sunakis sweetening the message to rishi sunak is there . he says we've sunak is there. he says we've got a plan and we must stick to it. but the electorate just don't seem to agree. well, absolutely. >> i mean, it was a really catastrophic night for the conservatives this is just the latest in a whole string of by—election defeats over the last eight months or so, and we are seeing really, really big conservative majorities being turned over . it does feel like turned over. it does feel like there's no such thing as a conservative safe seat anymore . conservative safe seat anymore. and i think what, what lots of conservatives are finding particularly depressing about these byelections is it these specific byelections is it felt even before the by elections took place, as though the conservatives had basically given they weren't really given up, they weren't really even in these seats. even campaigning in these seats. and in wellingborough , the and in wellingborough, the candidate was the girlfriend of peter bone , who resigned under

peter bone, who resigned under a very big cloud in the end of the last parliament. so it's all just a pretty bad look for the conservatives. i mean, they would argue that kingswood specifically . is going to be specifically. is going to be broken up at the next election. wellingborough is going to be a different seat altogether. so perhaps it wasn't worth putting a effort into a lot of campaigning effort into those optics those seats. but the optics aren't all, and think aren't good at all, and i think the other problem is, i mean, this is really a problem for both you've both parties. and i know you've talked this earlier in the talked about this earlier in the show , is that there is such a show, is that there is such a sense of apathy on the streets. turnout was really, really low turnout was below 40% in both of those seats. and keir starmer talks about people being desperate for change. well in a way desperate way they are. they're desperate to of the conservatives to get rid of the conservatives but they're not flocking towards labour with a sort of wave of enthusiasm . this is not anything enthusiasm. this is not anything like 1997. people are voting labour because it seems like the better of two options, or actually they're just not voting at all. conservative voters are

staying at home. few of them are going out to vote for reform. and i think that's a really interesting conversation . interesting conversation. because obviously we've seen all of these pretty good polls for reform recently . and last night, reform recently. and last night, some of those good polling results were realised in these by—election. uh uh, almost, you know, 13% in, in wellingborough. it's bad, are those it's not too bad, but are those just votes. are those just protest votes. are those reform going to reform voters actually going to vote reform at next vote reform at the next election? what do reform election? and what do reform really want? >> well , that's the question i >> well, that's the question i put to ben habib earlier. we had him in the studio because a lot of people, of course, will continually say, as sure as night follows day, olivia, are you the vote if you splitting the vote as if that should conservative that vote should be conservative and they're it away, but and they're taking it away, but they're way for they're also paving the way for labour . if they labour victories. if they are splitting vote . so i put it splitting that vote. so i put it to him. are splitting the to him. are you splitting the vote handing the keys vote or are you handing the keys to 10 sir keir to number 10 to sir keir starmer? he said we don't . care

starmer? he said we don't. care about that. we just want to wipe out the tories. and so the bigger question is, nigel farage today is saying again, the majority conservative party majority of conservative party members me be members would vote for me to be the over rishi sunak, the the leader over rishi sunak, the prime what do prime minister what do you think's going on like thinking of 3 chess moves ahead. is of 2 or 3 chess moves ahead. is this obliterating the this about obliterating the tories and they don't care if sir keir starmer gets in? because what then? the conservative party might actually be conservative and it might farage might involve nigel farage and richard and ben habib or richard tice and ben habib or i put that to ben. he said no, no, no, no deals. we're not doing that. but nigel himself keeps saying it. >> i think that's really, >> i think that's a really, really interesting question. what end what is reform's sort of end goal do they actually goal here? do they actually want to up seats up and to be picking up seats up and down the country ? i'm not sure. down the country? i'm not sure. just having look their just having a look at their manifesto. quite lot of their manifesto. quite a lot of their policies are sort of patently unrealistic . policies are sort of patently unrealistic. i mean, we might like the sound of them, but something raising something like raising the income threshold from 12,500 income tax threshold from 12,500 to 20,000. in practice, that will be very, very difficult indeed. what do they want to do? do they want to come a close second up and down the country ?

second up and down the country? and then they make a deal and then would they make a deal with conservatives? or is with the conservatives? or is the goal? and this is what i the end goal? and this is what i think case. think might be the case. reform wouldn't it , think might be the case. reform wouldn't it, but i think wouldn't admit it, but i think it might be that what they're hoping split the hoping is that they split the tory vote at the next election. and when the tories rise and then when the tories rise from ashes as they will do from the ashes as they will do inevitably in the end, however bad defeat tories will bad the defeat the tories will rise will take into rise again. they will take into account those right wingers and they will start to tack to the right. they will take on someone like perhaps badenoch like perhaps kemi badenoch as their leader. is it that reform? want to seats or do they want to get seats or do they just want some of right just want some sort of right wing ideas incorporated into the conservative party? i don't even think any think they're looking for any sort coalition they sort of official coalition they just want to make sure that right wingers are still being listened to. and that in listened to. and perhaps that in itself noble goal. itself is a noble goal. >> olivia superb stuff . >> olivia utley superb stuff. and let's take that further now, because i'm joined by the conservative buckingham, conservative mp for buckingham, greg greg, welcome to the greg smith. greg, welcome to the show. the best of days for show. not the best of days for the conservative party, but thanks for coming out to chat to

us. so we're just saying that no such thing as a safe conservative seat. it would seem anymore that record number of by elections lost by the conservative party in this turm of parliament since the 1960s, in fact , your own seat, greg, in fact, your own seat, greg, would traditionally be considered very safe for them, with a majority of 20,411. but we've seen massive overturns of majorities now is any is there any such thing , greg, now, as a any such thing, greg, now, as a safe seat or we are facing this very volatile and unpredictable future electorally . future electorally. >> look, i think good afternoon. >> look, i think good afternoon. >> i, i've never considered my own seat safe. yes, i've got a very good majority right now, but there were a lot of labour mps in the red wall who considered themselves safe as houses in the 2019 general election and woke up to big surprises on on the morning after that. general election. so my attitude has always been, uh, don't talk about safe and marginal and unwinnable and all of that nonsense. just get on

and campaign and meet people. as i've been doing all day on the doorsteps and try and earn the trust of every single vote that you get. that has been my way of doing politics, and it will continue to the approach continue to be the approach i take.i continue to be the approach i take. i think we have seen a big change in electoral politics in this country, away from maybe the tribal voting we saw in the past where people voted the same way for ever, and the electorate is a lot more volatile in the way they're willing to go from one party to another, from different types of elections. and the best example i can give you of that actually is my own party in 2019, where we went from a pretty dismal 9% national vote share in the last european parliament elections to be held in this country before we finally left the european union to an 80 seat majority in the general election, just six months later. so that that proves to you how much electoral patterns can shift out. what we

need to do now as a party is to pull together and to ensure that we have got a message and a plan for the future, not just standing on what we have or haven't done in the last 14 years, but a clear offer to the country that people want to get behind whenever this election comes this year, be it may be it, the summer, be it the autumn, but greg, the reason that you've got an 80 seat majority, the reason that you went from being wiped out to a huge majority, is because people like stood and got elected as like me stood and got elected as brexit party meps, and we went out there and we made sure that you did your job because you almost it away. the, you almost threw it away. the, you know, theresa may almost sold us out the european unions. and out to the european unions. and then to the point then history got us to the point where you've got an 80 seat majority now on doorstep where you've got an 80 seat m'these now on doorstep where you've got an 80 seat m'these elections, doorstep where you've got an 80 seat m'these elections, we doorstep where you've got an 80 seat m'these elections, we heartep of these by elections, we hear continually there's a belief now that no matter who the politicians are out there, you don't seem to listen to the public. there's a that the public. there's a sense that the 80 majority has been thrown 80 seat majority has been thrown away. was brexit really done ? away. was brexit really done? our borders being controlled and

people aren't necessarily saying things are going to get any much better under sir keir starmer. but are we at that situation now, greg, that 13 year itch where people are just so fed up, they just want a change? history teaches us that sometimes the change message can be more powerful than any retail offer. if you like. but to this listening point, i've been out on the doorsteps all day today , on the doorsteps all day today, listening to what people have got to say. i've been doing. i've been campaigning all week, actually . parliament's in actually. parliament's in recess, and i've spent the vast majority of my week out and aboutin majority of my week out and about in constituency . and about in my constituency. and the big messages that i'm getting that i'm certainly taking back to westminster is nothing that took me by surprise. it's nothing i haven't been saying for months, and months already . been saying for months, and months already. is around the borders point they want to see the small boats stopped . they the small boats stopped. they want to see illegal immigrants into this country ended and they are very frustrated about the

amount of tax they're paying. now. the people accept that the pandemic happened. we borrowed £400 billion that needs paying back. that is going to have an impact that everybody felt secure through the pandemic because of that money, because they were getting furlough or they were getting furlough or the loans or the grants to businesses or whatever it might be, and they accept that has to be, and they accept that has to be paid back. but i've been arguing for lower taxes well, my whole life, basically , certainly whole life, basically, certainly since i've been a member of parliament, i've been pushing for the 40% threshold to be put up because too many people are being dragged into that higher rate of tax . and that is being rate of tax. and that is being echoed by what people have told me today the doorsteps me today on the doorsteps in buckinghamshire . so it's a buckinghamshire. so it's a message i will go back with, you know, rocket boosters under it when we go back to the house of commons next monday. when we go back to the house of commons next monday . okay. greg commons next monday. okay. greg and i to hope see you in the studio next week , but i've got studio next week, but i've got olivia utley here. our political correspondent. she has a question for you. >> just wanted to pick >> well, i just wanted to pick

up on that point that you were making greg, about about making there, greg, about about taxes, as taxes, because it sounds as though jeremy hunt is actually shying tax shying away from serious tax cuts in the next budget. i've spoken to a lot of sort of conservative minded people who now that the only reason now feel that the only reason why they possibly even why they would possibly even consider conservative in consider voting conservative in the middle of this immigration crisis, worklessness crisis, the middle of this immigration crisi which

statement. i believe he wants to deliver low taxes. i believe he is a low tax conservative. as the prime minister is. but we've got to prove it now . the spring got to prove it now. the spring budget is our last chance to prove it. and if we don't deliver a meaningful tax cut that puts seriously , you know, that puts seriously, you know, bigger amounts of people's own money back in their own pockets . money back in their own pockets. yes. on each month's pay check, i think we are we are going to have a problem and you always get the mood music before a budget where expectation management is the catch phrase. but i think at the end of the day, when he stands up at that despatch box on budget day, in a couple of weeks time , he needs couple of weeks time, he needs to land something where people seriously feel better off and more of their own money is going into their bank, rather than to the man . superb. you the tax man. superb. thank you very . greg smith, mp for very much. greg smith, mp for buckingham. and course , buckingham. and of course, olivia utley. thank very olivia utley. thank you very much great question. much for that great question. and you're right. spring and yeah, you're right. spring is air. that budget has is in the air. that budget has come in and time to put a come in and it's time to put a spnng come in and it's time to put a spring rabbit of hat. spring rabbit out of the hat.

now before last night, labour hadnt now before last night, labour hadn't won in kingswood since 2005, and their last win in wellingborough was back in 2001. >> we're very pleased with the by—election results from last night. i think it's very clear that people are crying out for change across the country. um, they think that the tories have failed. they can see that most things are broken. they look at the labour party and see a changed party. and last night people who hadn't voted labour before went out and voted laboun before went out and voted labour. so i'm very pleased with both those results . but there both of those results. but there is more work to do. there's a long way to go now . long way to go now. >> what would you do with an extra £1,500 each month for an entire year? well, you could win that in our great british giveaway as £18,000 in cold, hard cash is up for grabs . and hard cash is up for grabs. and here's how you could win all of that. wonga still, here's how you could win all of that. wonga still , time to turn that. wonga still, time to turn 2024 into 2020. >> more with your chance to win

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harry. >> of course he did it on prime time television in america and after saying that sickness bnngs after saying that sickness brings families together for could a royal reconciliation be on the cards? i'm martin daubney on the cards? i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel.

radio. >> welcome back. it's 525. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now later this hour i'll get reaction to the news that security services are worried that extremists are crossing the channelin that extremists are crossing the channel in small boats. they've finally woken up to that danger. but before that, prince harry simply cannot help himself, can he ? he suggests that the king's he? he suggests that the king's illness could lead to a reconciliation with his father . reconciliation with his father. well, i'm now joined by the writer cora kennedy. cora, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. so harry has broken

his silence on a touching, intimate, private topic on prime time television in america . time television in america. >> yeah, i think americans have had a taste today of how low harry will really go . harry will really go. >> um, people i've spoken to here now under the impression that harry didn't go and jump on a plane to see his father, the king, to be the kind and considerate son, but instead . considerate son, but instead. >> and so he could make sure that he has some more fodder for the interviews that he knew were coming. and that he could get himself on good morning himself a spot on good morning america. a pretty quiet america. after a pretty quiet few weeks, um, of media for the couple, carl, few weeks, um, of media for the couple, carl , that's couple, carl, that's a fascinating insight because we like to believe over here that the american does lap all this up. >> they think, oh, wow, he's a royal. i'll just believe everything he says. whereas we're the grizzled cynics. so are saying that the same are you saying that the same cynicism is now creeping over to america, your side of the pond ? america, your side of the pond? >> definitely . >> oh, definitely. >> oh, definitely. >> it took a few years. >> i mean, it took a few years. >> i mean, it took a few years. >> definitely clicked to >> uh, we definitely clicked to on manipulation , um, before. on the manipulation, um, before.

but but after such an aggressive pr campaign over the past few years , as, um, americans are years, as, um, americans are definitely waking up to the behaviour and the, uh, manipulation and especially over the past, like week or so, there's been such an aggressive pr campaign. um, on wednesday , pr campaign. um, on wednesday, there was an official statement , there was an official statement, um, a furious statement put out by the couple saying that they will not be broken. and they've also launched a new website in the past week. and meghan's announced that she she's hosting announced that she she's hosting a podcast series. so this is a new podcast series. so this is just the latest in a string of kind of pr attacks by the couple. how on earth can royals with endless finances and a privileged lifestyle there they are skiing away, living the life of riley . of riley. >> how on earth cora, can they claim to be broken ? claim to be broken? >> yeah , um, it's kind of insane >> yeah, um, it's kind of insane now, and it's getting to the point where, like i said, everybody is coming to the same realisation that these people

are just just they go in and out of periods of times where they need a lot of attention, and then they kind of go quiet for a few months. but then you realise that when they come back, what they've been for few they've been doing for a few months kind scheming and months is kind of scheming and saying, we make more saying, how can we make more money? how can we? how can money? and how can we? how can we monetise this? we kind of monetise this? >> well, you get >> well, corey, you better get used it seems used to them because it seems that harry dabbling with the that harry is dabbling with the concept nationality, concept of dual nationality, which could stay which means you could stay stateside full time . stateside full time. >> yeah, he said today that, um, although , no, it's not the first although, no, it's not the first thing that he's going to go out and do that he is considering getting, um, an american citizen ship, which i'm sure a lot of people won't be happy with. but i guess it's probably better that he's kept away from the uk and from the royal family and at least there's a bit of distance between the two as well. >> carl kennedy, thank you for joining us. and i think a lot of people this side of the pond will be quite happy harry to

will be quite happy for harry to take and he's gift take citizenship and he's a gift that we pass over to you that we will pass over to you in america. cora kennedy, thank you very much for joining america. cora kennedy, thank you very much forjoining on gb very much forjoining us on gb news. now got time for a few of your emails asking you for your reactions to the by—election, in particular, the threat, the emergent threat of the reform party. and here's what you've got to say. june says this. i think reform is conning the pubuc think reform is conning the public into thinking that it can deliver opinions, options which are really unobtainable , i.e. are really unobtainable, i.e. stopping illegal migration while the tories are also saying that they are punching above its weight , in my they are punching above its weight, in my opinion. um, colin has a different take. he says. well well done ben habib. he speaks sense and i would vote for him. ben of course, was in the studio about an hour ago. um thirdly, anne says this sadly a vote for reform uk seems to be a vote for reform uk seems to be a vote for reform uk seems to be a vote for labour. now, a lot of people have been saying that overnight, particularly in the kingswood by—election, if you add the reform votes to the tory votes, the tories would have

beaten the labour party and won that by—election. but is that even realistic anymore? um, are these tory votes or are they simply votes and every vote must be fought for and won. and as ben habib said, the tories need to that of to stop that sense of entitlement. louis says this i've been a conservative supporter for many, many years, but because of how the tories are being at leading this country , we're now reform country, we're now reform members and i'm happy to be so. and finally, paul adds , this and finally, paul adds, this reform need to get their message over better. what are their policies that will make any difference at all to us? they all feel the same . so there we all feel the same. so there we go.thank all feel the same. so there we go. thank you for getting in touch. certainly huge , huge food touch. certainly huge, huge food for thought and the emergence of the reform party now is the third party in britain has really got lots and lots of you talking now there's lots more still to come . between now and still to come. between now and 6:00. we'll be looking at the controversial blame game going on in the entertainment venue.

can we really blame jack carson gen z even for the failing of the nightlife industry? because guess what, young people, they're giving up the booze while on earth is wrong with them . but first, here's your them. but first, here's your latest news headlines with sam francis . latest news headlines with sam francis. martin. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> 5.31 the headlines this hour, bofis. >> 5.31 the headlines this hour, boris . boris johnson says that boris. boris johnson says that the death of alexei navalny plunged russia into new depths of depravity . he accusing of depravity. he accusing vladimir putin of putting him to death. his comments come as the opposition leader's wife, ulyana navalny, told the munich security conference earlier the death of her husband will not go unpunished . other international unpunished. other international leaders, including vladimir zelenskyy, have also laid blame on russia for mr navalny's death, a claim echoed by the us and the eu. the foreign secretary , lord david cameron,

secretary, lord david cameron, says it's another example of putin's dreadful regime . come . putin's dreadful regime. come. two men have been arrested in the uk after a group of migrant were found in the back of a freezer lorry in east sussex, six people have since been taken to hospital. we understand, though, that no deaths have been reported at this stage . the reported at this stage. the discovery of discovery of new haven port this morning sparked a major emergency response . a major emergency response. border force are still at the scene, continuing their investigations . two scene, continuing their investigations. two damaging by—election defeats have piled further pressure on the prime minister rishi sunak. labour says the double win is evidence that it's a government in waiting overnight. jen kitchen snatched wellingborough with just over 45% of the vote. that's the second largest by—election swing from conservative to labour since the second world war. that result came just two hours after labour's damian egan also won in kingswood , with just under 45% kingswood, with just under 45% of that vote . a woman has been

of that vote. a woman has been jailed today for seven years for helping a person carry out female genital mutilation on a three year old british girl dunng three year old british girl during a trip they took to kenya . 40 year old amin nur was sentenced at the old bailey in london in the first conviction of its kind. the judge described it as a truly horrific and abhorrent crime , and prince abhorrent crime, and prince harry has suggested that the king's cancer diagnosis could lead to reconciliation within the royal family. speaking to good morning america in the us, the duke of sussex said he was grateful to have spent time with his father during a fleeting visit london week . but visit to london last week. but the conversations about the king's health would remain private for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts . news. com forward slash alerts. for a valuable legacy your family can own .

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radio. >> welcome back . it's 538. >> welcome back. it's 538. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. it's my favourite part of the week . my favourite part of the week. joining me now is michelle dewberry because coming up after this is dewbs& co here she is a sight for sore eyes. jus what's on your menu. >> hello martin. >> hello martin. >> yes. coming up tonight. of course i'll be picking up on the by—election stuff that goes without saying. >> so much to unpick unpick there, isn't there? >> i want to ask, is >> but also i want to ask, is there a holiday, a rights, there a holiday, a human rights, a ruysbroek , an upnow, broken a ruysbroek, an upnow, a broken out all over? i say about out all over? should i say about a disabled man that was receiving payments for care? receiving payments for his care? long story short, he saved up those payments to spend on holidays one over to florida. the council are having none of that. they've taken the money back off him. should they have done or not? also as well should foreign governments be owning

the here in this country? the media here in this country? and least, churches and last but not least, churches . we know by now that attendance there and down. there is going down and down. but to start but is the answer to start having alcohol fuelled silent discos in them or not. >> it gets my vote . that sounds >> it gets my vote. that sounds superb. dewbs & co straight after superb. dewbs& co straight after this. thank you. michelle dewberry always a pleasure to see you. you take care. now that i to talk about story i want to talk about a story that should concern us that should concern all of us who believe in a democracy and free that's the free speech, and that's the threats and violence that mps face on a daily basis. on monday night, scores of pro—palestine protest descended on the family home of tory mp tobias ellwood , home of tory mp tobias ellwood, and the two mps have been murdered in recent years. in 2016, labour politician jo cox was killed by a right wing extremist and in 2021, tory sir david amess was murdered by an islamic state terrorist . nigel islamic state terrorist. nigel farage and former labour mp stephen pound spoke about this issue last night on the gb news election special .

election special. >> it is like tangent. maybe not for now, but i thought what happened ? happened? >> okay, so what they basically said was who'd be a politician now? stephen pound said in all of his years he's never seen it as volatile as febrile and dangerous as it currently is now. and joining me to discuss this is a former military and intelligence officer , philip intelligence officer, philip ingram. philip welcome to the show. it seems at the moment philip , that tensions from the philip, that tensions from the middle east are spilling onto british streets . tensions are british streets. tensions are high and we have situation now where the mob are forming and they are marching on politicians homes and sending them record amounts of death threats. and philip, my question is, where is this going ? and will it force this going? and will it force decent people from even entering the trade in the first place? well i think it is stopping decent people from entering the trade and it's stopping good politicians remaining in the trade. >> we've got the government.

minister mike freer is leaving because his constituency office was burnt down and he and his husband have had , um, uh, direct husband have had, um, uh, direct threats . and mps seem to have threats. and mps seem to have normalised the threats out of their own. this is this should not be normal and democratic society . it's okay to, uh, for society. it's okay to, uh, for mps to have differences politically and have differences of opinion , but that shouldn't of opinion, but that shouldn't turn into the sort of hate that we're seeing out across society. and i think this is a wider societal issue where we're seeing hate being tolerated in a way that it just leads to and breeds more hate. and that's just wrong . just wrong. >> but philip does this stem from the fact that we've seen a recent outbreak, undeniably, since october the 7th, have more social unrest, more civil unrest on the streets. and this emboldens people when they see the police specifically standing off and allowing this to continue. those that mob gets bolder and now they're outside politicians houses and not just

tories . they're doing it outside tories. they're doing it outside labour party mps too. and it creates an atmosphere of toxicity. and in the end , and toxicity. and in the end, and mps like mike freer will simply remove themselves from the profession or never join it in the first place. and that is not a free and democratic society. thatis a free and democratic society. that is the thin end of totality ism. >> oh, i agree completely. and i think that's part of the problem. you know, i think the police not reacting very visibly whenever crimes are being committed and whenever you're getting these sorts of situations, just emboldens other groups to go and do the same. but i think there's a much bigger problem beneath this. you know, we've heard, um, we've got politics by soundbite now, and a lot of the soundbite that we hear coming out from some very senior politicians in the very recent past have been hate filled. um, and if we're getting our politicians, our leaders , our politicians, our leaders, um, within the country or those that aspiring to be our that are aspiring to be our leaders in the country, coming that are aspiring to be our leaders ihatee country, coming that are aspiring to be our leaders ihate speech,', coming

that are aspiring to be our leaders ihate speech, how ning that are aspiring to be our leaders ihate speech, how can we out with hate speech, how can we then start to go and criticise that coming out from people in all the different groups and elsewhere? and since the 7th of october there's been october attacks, there's been a 589% increase in anti—semitic activity across the country . and activity across the country. and that isn't being stamped on hard, both by the police but also by general society. it's all of us. you know, we've all got a responsibility here. if you see an unacceptable behaviour , most people will turn behaviour, most people will turn their heads and shrink away from it. um, you know, hide and it. and um, you know, hide and say, i'll not get involved in case something happens to me that's wrong. in a society . renee. >> okay, philip, let's just listen to that clip. now, between stephen pound and nigel farage from last night . farage from last night. >> it's a slight tangent. maybe not for now , but i thought what not for now, but i thought what happened ? um, outside mr elle happened? um, outside mr elle edwards home in bournemouth two nights ago , with nearly nights ago, with nearly a hundred people protesting for four hours, family home screaming . i mean, stephen's screaming. i mean, stephen's been an mp. i've been an mp, you know. you know, we can all put up bit of stick. yeah, up with a bit of stick. yeah, yeah. think comes up.

yeah. i think that comes up. >> you know, you stick your head above the parapet you expect above the parapet and you expect of i think of course, and i think we take it somebody earlier it and as somebody said earlier on, you we're all grown on, you know, we're all grown ups but never ups now. but i've never seen anything awful. anything like this awful. >> it. >> wasn't it. >> wasn't it. >> is this is worst >> this is this is the worst that i've ever seen. >> in own patch we've got >> and in my own patch we've got groups of people with megaphones screaming outside the mps surgeries. get surgeries. but to actually get that i remember was that when i remember when i was stephen pps when he got stephen timms, pps when he got stabbed course, you know, stabbed and of course, you know, we we've lost two mps. we know we've lost two good mps. >> no, david amess. >> yeah. no, it's david amess. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> too easily forgotten that in the years, two the last ten years, two political assassinations, so many people >> and i know people in business, who business, entrepreneur years who have politics. have thought about politics. they touch they won't touch it with a bargepole they're scared bargepole and they're scared of it. of it. they're scared of it. they're scared of social they're also scared of social media. they're scared of the fact that every mobile phone is a no privacy, fact that every mobile phone is a know? no privacy, fact that every mobile phone is a know? and no privacy, fact that every mobile phone is a know? and look, privacy, fact that every mobile phone is a know? and look, let'scy, fact that every mobile phone is a know? and look, let's not you know? and look, let's not link it link this to mr regan. it wouldn't be but a general wouldn't be fair, but a general point, getting high point, we are not getting high calibre people going for parliament. >> and philip isn't that the inevitable outcome? the strong won't get involved and will end up with more identikit politicians, more bland politicians, more bland politicians and the best brains will just go and do other things

well it is it's there's nothing that would encourage anyone that i know to go into politics because they get ripped to pieces in every way , shape or form. >> and whenever you're getting this, this sort of level of attacks on them, it just attracts even further. you know, i do know that the parliamentary, um , security parliamentary, um, security people, along with the police, are putting an awful lot of effort into making sure that every mp gets a proper risk assessment. they do for their surgeries they have to surgeries because they have to engage with the public in their constituent searches, and there's increased amount of there's an increased amount of advice been given to advice that's been given to them. um, you know, those projects i have been briefed on and know the organisations that are putting those together. so there's of effort being there's a lot of effort being put in to try and keep things safe. when we see pictures, safe. but when we see pictures, like outside, tobias like we did from outside, tobias elle edwards and the elle edwards house and the police not doing anything that sends the wrong message, the police need to start being much more robust and stopping these things because you know that that was huge , hugely

that was huge, hugely threatening behaviour aimed at not just him, but his family. >> common sense spoken there. and if they don't get a grip soon, philip ingram i think we could see another tragedy and nobody wants that. thank you very for joining on the very much for joining us on the show. now moving show. philip ingram. now moving on. former immigration minister robert jenrick say security services are worried that extremists are crossing the channel on small boats. quelle surprise. we've been saying that for years. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

radio. >> welcome back. it's 549 on friday afternoon and you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gbilliono news now. six migrants have been taken to hospital after they were found in the back of a lorry at newhaven ferry port . two men newhaven ferry port. two men have been arrested and former immigration minister robert jenrick says security services

are worried that extremists are crossing the channel on small boats. well, joining me now to discuss this is kevin saunders , discuss this is kevin saunders, who's the former chief immigration officer at uk border force. welcome to the show kevin. it's always a pleasure , kevin. it's always a pleasure, sir. what's taking them so to long wake up to this, kev? i mean , we've been saying people mean, we've been saying people like you and i have been saying for years and years and years, we no who's crossing we have no idea who's crossing the channel. if they throw their documents into the channel, they come don't know come over there. we don't know who they say, who they are. they can say, whoever now, finally , whoever they are now, finally, robert jenrick says, hey , these robert jenrick says, hey, these people could be a danger. it's like, what took them so long? >> well, indeed. good evening. martin >> yeah, you are quite right. >> yeah, you are quite right. >> what has taken them so long to wake up? um. it is a huge problem. and we've been saying this for donkey's years . we this for donkey's years. we don't know who these people are that are coming across the channel that are coming across the channel, whether they're coming on the boats or backs of lorries . we have no idea who they are. and that is a big concern . and

and that is a big concern. and what's more of a concern is that we've lost 17,000 of these people now, they're not all terrorists, but they're not people that are here. um, to help the british economy because they've disappeared into the unregulated economy . so it is unregulated economy. so it is a big problem . the answer big problem. the answer unfortunately , is to detain unfortunately, is to detain everybody that arrived here illegal. we put them all into detention. but of course, that would be totally unacceptable . would be totally unacceptable. um, to the politicians . and it um, to the politicians. and it would cost an absolute fortune . would cost an absolute fortune. but until we have another seven, seven or something like that, they won't even think about it. we do need to detain these people and a lot of people, kevin, will agree with that. >> but of course, we have a system that seems hell bent on allowing anything like that to happen. and in fact, this happen. and in fact, in this specific incident, kevin , um, specific incident, kevin, um, the office had allowed that

the home office had allowed that these people were going to be allowed into britain because of course, they can't process the backlog fast enough. kevin 31,900 small boat migrants in the asylum system. we're just going to be waved into the country because they couldn't be processed within one year, which meant they had to be granted automatic right to remain and only 23 of that entire lot have been deported. and at the 11th houn been deported. and at the 11th hour, this decision is paused by robert jenrick, who says there's a, well, evidence connection between those arriving illegally and serious criminality . kevin, and serious criminality. kevin, i say once again , this is basic i say once again, this is basic stuff . you and i have been stuff. you and i have been saying this for blimming years, mate. yes it is. >> it is completely basic . um >> it is completely basic. um uh, robert jenrick is now saying what he should have been saying, perhaps when he was the minister. um, he's being a little bit wise after the event, isn't he? but he's right that

the thing is, he's right. we are , um, the 30,000 that you're talking about . , um, the 30,000 that you're talking about. um, i think , um, talking about. um, i think, um, are people that we couldn't remove anyway because they come from the five countries that we were . we've got no hope of were. we've got no hope of removing people to because there's wars going on, and there's wars going on, and there's those countries anyway, so we couldn't remove them . but so we couldn't remove them. but that doesn't mean that they're not. they're not people that we should be very careful about . should be very careful about. and i mean , i believe that there and i mean, i believe that there are there are there were 19 that were of interest to the security services, but let me tell you a little story. um we had when we had operation pitting the people, flying people out of afghanistan, we, we had border force officers actually, in afghanistan who were doing checks on people that were coming out. and we found two, two on one of the flights that

were definitely not the sort of people we would want in the uk . people we would want in the uk. and in fact, they were prevented from disembarking in the uk and flown straight back to afghanistan. so we do have some successes , but they're not huge . successes, but they're not huge. >> of course, kevin, those are the ones that we intercept or even know about. kevin saunders, thank you very much for joining us. former chief immigration officer at uk border force. it really makes you wonder sometimes if the lunatics have taken over the asylum system. how can you seriously say that serious criminals could be on dinghies? course they could dinghies? of course they could if they throw their documents in the who the channel. we have no idea who these people are today. we've seen six come in on the back of a lorry. they're going to lorries now. they're closing. the thing is, round and round we go. astonishing stuff . but look, go. astonishing stuff. but look, i'm finished for another week. i'll back on monday. i'll be back on monday. parliament will back, so i'll parliament will be back, so i'll be this filled be having this studio filled with i'll be with politicians. i'll be grilling them so hard. i'll need to get myself a new apron.

thanks for joining myself on the show this. michelle show after this. it's michelle dewberry with dewbs& co stick around. always lots on her menu, but thanks for joining me this week and have a fantastic friday evening. thank you very much . evening. thank you very much. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again! i'm alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast. we do have some pretty wet weather on the cards as we go through later tomorrow, but for the time being it's a largely dry picture. that's because do a weak that's because we do have a weak ridge of high pressure across the uk and it's this that's quieten things down a little bit. that being said, there are still outbreaks of still some showery outbreaks of rain at the moment, and a rain around at the moment, and a few will continue as few of these will continue as we go end the day. go through the end of the day. some skies through the some clear skies through the start the night, particularly start of the night, particularly towards a towards the east, before a swathe thicker pushes swathe of thicker cloud pushes its into western parts, and swathe of thicker cloud pushes its is into western parts, and swathe of thicker cloud pushes its is likelynestern parts, and swathe of thicker cloud pushes its is likely to ;tern parts, and swathe of thicker cloud pushes its is likely to bring)arts, and swathe of thicker cloud pushes

its is likely to bring someand this is likely to bring some drizzly rain , drizzly outbreaks of rain, particularly in the west. for most , though, staying relatively most, though, staying relatively mild, a little fresher mild, perhaps a little fresher than some recent nights . but than some recent nights. but temperatures many places temperatures in many places holding high holding up in high single figures, if not double digits the chance any sunshine the best chance of any sunshine tomorrow be across parts of tomorrow will be across parts of scotland and in the east. further first thing, however, it is going to turn increasingly cloudy as we go through the day and so sunshine will become a bit more limited. a few spots of drizzly rain for a time before this swathe wetter this swathe of wetter weather feeds the and this feeds in from the west, and this could cause some localised flooding places. again, flooding in a few places. again, a mild day. temperatures are well the well above average for the time of year. of around 15 or of year. highs of around 15 or 16 celsius. a bit of uncertainty as to how quickly that rain pushes eastwards and clears away, but it is likely to push away, but it is likely to push away we go through sunday away as we go through sunday morning, but could be a wet start least start at least in the south—east. otherwise sunday does like a largely dry does look like a largely dry day. just a few spots of rain around before something more unsettled week. bye unsettled comes next week. bye bye . bye. >> that warm feeling inside died from boxt boilers .

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