all but been taken to hospital. all but we understand no deaths have so far . political far been reported. political news and two damaging by—election defeats have piled pressure on the prime minister overnight, jen kitchen snatched wellingborough with just over 45% of that vote and that result came just two hours after the labour's damian egan also won in kingswood with just under 45% of that vote. sir keir starmer says the double win is evidence that his party is a government in waiting, he says. but rishi sunak has insisted that labour doesn't have a plan . and staying doesn't have a plan. and staying with political news, labour have tonight published a summary of sir keir starmer's taxes, showing that he paid just over £99,000 in uk tax last year . the £99,000 in uk tax last year. the amount includes tax that was paid on the sale of land, part owned by the labour leader and his father's estate , earning sir his father's estate, earning sir keir £275,000. that comes in contrast to rishi sunak , who contrast to rishi sunak, who revealed that he paid just over £500,000 in uk tax last year, with a total income of 2.2

million and some breaking news coming to us out of new york tonight, donald trump has been ordered . to pay $3549 tonight, donald trump has been ordered . to pay $354.9 million. ordered. to pay $3549 million. that's around £280 million in penalties for fraudulently inflating his net worth , inflating his net worth, according to the judge. to dupe lenders, the former president has also been banned from running any business in new york for three years. however, the judge did cancel a previous order for trump's companies to be dissolved. instead appointing an independent director to oversee his businesses. this latest case comes as trump appears to be cruising to the republican nomination for president, despite multiple other legal battles. it's expected, though, to appeal today's ruling . thousands of today's ruling. thousands of steelworkers at port talbot will begin voting on industrial action over the threat of job losses . it follows tata steel's losses. it follows tata steel's recent decision decision to close its two blast furnaces , close its two blast furnaces, resulting in the losses of up to

2800 jobs in wales. resulting in the losses of up to 2800 jobs in wales . the unite 2800 jobs in wales. the unite union says strikes could be possible by the end of april . possible by the end of april. tata steel, though, has defended its position, saying it must restructure to stay in business. and it says to move to a greener way of working and finally, some news from the sporting world tonight, six time olympic champion sir chris hoy has revealed that he is battling cancen revealed that he is battling cancer. the former track cyclist says he's undergoing successful treatment, including chemotherapy . and in a social chemotherapy. and in a social media post, the 47 year old said he's remaining optimistic and continuing with normal life and looking forward to the upcoming paris olympics . for the latest paris olympics. for the latest stories , you can sign up to gb stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or, of course, go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> one thing is crystal clear the biggest lesson from the by—election yesterday is that people think our politicians are useless . it's the turnout was

useless. it's the turnout was shocking. 37.1, 63% of people decided that they sitting on their hands at home in stead in kingswood. the turnout in 19 was 71.5. the turnout in wellingborough was 38. i mean, good grief. and it's because there is quite literally nothing to vote for, is there? we have a legal migrant crisis , an illegal legal migrant crisis, an illegal migrant crisis, a housing shortage record, nhs waiting list. this country needs serious open heart surgery. it needs somebody brave with a radical vision . rishi sunak decided that vision. rishi sunak decided that he wanted to ban smoking and increase the number of a levels . increase the number of a levels. if he hasn't got the minerals to get to grips with all of the problems facing this country, then if really did love then if he really did love britain, he would stand aside for who does . it's is for somebody who does. it's is simply not acceptable for somebody to use the position of prime minister as the top line on their cv, when what this country needs is somebody to drive things forward. but what i don't understand is why so many

conservative mps are willing to just follow sunak over the cliff like a bunch of lemmings. they have choice between guaranteed have a choice between guaranteed oblivion remote oblivion and the remote possibility of success, and they're choosing guaranteed oblivion. today, the new conservatives urged rishi sunak to do these things. these include cutting tax and bringing immigration down. yeah a conservative pm shouldn't need to be told this. should they really just think how far this party has fallen ? party has fallen? >> would margaret thatcher say about today's conservative party >> i think she'd say it wasn't conservative. >> indeed , keir starmer has no >> indeed, keir starmer has no clear policies. i mean, there are massive issues with anti—semitism as well. he is singularly running on a ticket that just as this vote for laboun that just as this vote for labour, we're not the tories, we are not the tories. that's it. it's not good enough. the man is just an empty suit, albeit an empty suit that occasionally represented terrorists and terrorist sympathisers. back in the day. lib dem leader ed davey is an absolute joke. it's ironic that he's on the run from the

post office because he's someone who knows a thing two about who knows a thing or two about not how can you vote not delivering how can you vote for the absent reform? did for the absent man reform? did pretty well last night. they matched their polling, didn't they? but the fact is , nigel they? but the fact is, nigel farage just showing all a farage is just showing us all a little and if sunak farage is just showing us all a littl�*got and if sunak farage is just showing us all a littl�*got any and if sunak farage is just showing us all a littl�*got any sense,d if sunak farage is just showing us all a littl�*got any sense, he'llunak farage is just showing us all a littl�*got any sense, he'll wait to has got any sense, he'll wait to call an election in november and try make choose between try to make nigel choose between campaigning with campaigning in america with trump the driving trump or standing in the driving rain in workington, drumming up votes . all this in the votes. all this talk in the media about who had the worst night at the elections last night, or was it the tories? was it the lib dems? the answer is us. we did. none of us can be arsed with this lot of no hopers, labour votes hopers, labour lost 5000 votes in and been in kingswood and it's been treated almighty in kingswood and it's been treated they almighty in kingswood and it's been treated they onlymighty in kingswood and it's been treated they only gained about victory. they only gained about 100 or so in 100 votes or so in wellingborough . country has wellingborough. this country has more to contend with than any stage since world war two, and most people feel as though they don't really want to vote anymore. and that is a problem. it's so ridiculous that it's almost beyond parody, and i say almost beyond parody, and i say

almost because i'm joined now by nick the flying brick, who was the candidate for the monster raving loony party, secured 217 votes in wellingborough last night, which is a quarter of what the lib dems got in kingswood. nick, i've got your manifesto here. okay i've got your manifesto here. you wanted to close downing street and open up a hair salon called government cuts , and you wanted government cuts, and you wanted to introduce a new court of human lefts. and you would like to replace the foreign secretary with a british one. i mean, i'm amazed you didn't win. >> well , we feel we have amazed you didn't win. >> well, we feel we have won. we feel we have won, patrick. and thank you again for inviting me onto your it's a great onto your show. it's a great show, patrick, and i really appreciate here. but appreciate you being here. but we loony party we are. we we the loony party we are. we are truly the brave ones. uh, patrick, we feel we can take the next by—election we're looking forward to rochdale now. we think rochdale is. it's a loony heartland . i'd heartland. i'd >> what are you what are you. what are you going to be running on in rochdale when it comes to when it comes to your manifesto,

have any other gems for us? >> oh, i think i think you've come out with a lot of great stuff and of course, i am stuff there. and of course, i am a single issue politician, as you well know. i believe you well know. i just believe in abolishing . um, if you abolishing gravity. um, if you wanted to hear, uh, the policies that were up in, um , rochdale, that were up in, um, rochdale, you should have really got raving rodent on, um, who's, uh, a new candidate for us. but we're very confident in success with him. and we think that he's going to have george galloway running, running for the hills. >> yeah . i'm sorry. well, can >> yeah. i'm sorry. well, can i just ask nick, what was the reaction like when you went door to door drumming up votes ? to door drumming up votes? >> well, people are very pleased to see us. um, i got invited in for the occasional cup of tea and, um , they they often mistake and, um, they they often mistake me for the liberal democrats . me for the liberal democrats. >> i'm not surprised . well, >> i'm not surprised. well, look, on a on a slightly more serious note, if that's possible, you actually did get,

i think, 217 votes. i watched it live. i think, 217 votes. i watched it uve.the i think, 217 votes. i watched it live. the cheer went up. it was fantastic . if you'd have been fantastic. if you'd have been standing in kingswood , you would standing in kingswood, you would have got a quarter of the votes of democrats, which of the liberal democrats, which is absolutely brilliant. um, so , is absolutely brilliant. um, so, you know, you must actually, genuinely be happy. you know, you must actually, gerweely be happy. you know, you must actually, gerweely ivery happy. you know, you must actually, gerweely ivery happy)py. you know, you must actually, gerweely ivery happy with it, >> we are very happy with it, with the way, with the way the world is now. we feel that we are the only true path forwards and, and, um , we you're talking and, and, um, we you're talking about lemmings earlier. well, we are we we're we're prepared to take that position . we'll we'll take that position. we'll we'll jump take that position. we'll we'll jump off that cliff . jump off that cliff. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i'm sure you will, nick. i'm sure you will. well look, nick, short and sweet, but thank you very much. and it is great to see you and genuinely well done last night as because i do last night as well, because i do think you, you are think that you, you guys are a real gem in our british political system. i rattled off a load of stuff there about all the negatives all this the negatives and all this horror show that we're dealing with it is a pleasure with now, and it is a pleasure to you, mate. sir. you take to see you, mate. sir. you take care. right, nick the flying care. all right, nick the flying brick. him.

brick. and good luck to him. but look into reality now, look back into reality now, okay? let's thoughts of okay? let's get the thoughts of my tonight am my panel. and tonight i am joined by the political correspondent the spectator . correspondent at the spectator. james heale. have also got james heale. i have also got entrepreneur and apprentice finalist joanna jarjue and editor of spiked. it's tom slater . tom, editor of spiked. it's tom slater. tom, i'll editor of spiked. it's tom slater . tom, i'll start with slater. tom, i'll start with you. i've got to ask, how would you. i've got to ask, how would you have voted if you were in one of these by elections ? one of these by elections? >> well, to coin a phrase, i agree with nick you were agree with nick that you were just talking um just talking about them. um easily stands out amongst the other candidates there. um, and i uh, telling that i think it's, uh, telling that it falls to monster raving it falls to the monster raving loony actually just loony party to actually just insert any kind of interest in some of these elections some of these by elections because dreadful because of how dreadful it's been. be been. but yeah, i think i'd be on spoiling votes. last joke. vote territory, to honest, at vote territory, to be honest, at this how bad things are. >> is actually >> yeah, but that is actually one of the main reasons why i asked i asked this question, because i genuinely do not know how i would been would vote, although i have been made aware that i'm wearing a reform tie, which is reform coloured tie, which is probably but probably terrible optics, but how voted, john? how would you have voted, john? >> absolutely. come how would you have voted, john? >> aa.olutely. come how would you have voted, john? >> aa red:ely. come how would you have voted, john? >> aa red seat. come how would you have voted, john? >> aa red seat. a come how would you have voted, john? >> aa red seat. a redne how would you have voted, john? >> aa red seat. a red wall from a red seat. um, a red wall seat the north wakefield , seat in the north in wakefield, and there was a by—election last

year and the first opportunity that to boot tories that we had to boot the tories out, we did i think it out, we did it. so i think it will the same for any will be the same for any by—election. do you know what your with labour though? yeah, absolutely. though? ymean,»solutely. though? ymean,»sc bare y. though? ymean,»sc bare minimum. though? ymean, isc bare minimum. i'm >> i mean, a bare minimum. i'm voting for not having the sleaze , the lies and also the lack of actual action that we've had from the conservative party. and i think labour have much i think that labour have much more long terme plan and more of a long terme plan and i really appreciate the fact that they're looking at things they're even looking at things like green plan, like a green energy plan, because one of the reasons why we're have a of we're in recession have a bit of news that one. news for you on that one. >> unfortunately, i think they've on they've reversed ferreted on that, they? one of they've reversed ferreted on that screeching,iey? one of they've reversed ferreted on that screeching, screeching; of the screeching, screeching u—turns, u —turns, isn't it? >> it's part u—turns, isn't it? >> it's part of the >> but it's still part of the agenda. you know, they haven't said not actually said that they're not actually going and going to look into it. and i think having a long time think that having a long time plan labour is important for plan for labour is important for the is something the country, and it is something that need in of our energy. >> okay, james, same question to you. would you voted? >> okay, james, same question to you. i would you voted? >> okay, james, same question to you. i wotto you voted? >> okay, james, same question to you. i wotto you rated? >> okay, james, same question to you. i wotto you ia winner. patrick i like to back a winner. >> and on the basis of last night's have backed night's results, i'd have backed the won by a the apathy party, which won by a stonking both of stonking landslide in both of 63. so i probably wouldn't have stonking landslide in both of 63. sobecause)ly wouldn't have stonking landslide in both of 63. sobecause)ly w

it's rubber. so it's a bit of a dead rubber. so all i'd say is, uh, yeah, i probably turned all i'd say is, uh, yeah, i proito»ly turned all i'd say is, uh, yeah, i proito vote turned all i'd say is, uh, yeah, i proito vote like turned all i'd say is, uh, yeah, i proito vote like the turned all i'd say is, uh, yeah, i proito vote like the british ned out to vote like the british majority last night. majority people last night. >> yeah, but well, how concerned about be? okay, about this? should we be? okay, so a turnout of i think so we had a turnout of i think 37 and 38% respectively. okay. people always go, oh, it's a by—election. doesn't really people always go, oh, it's a by—ele(|'mi. doesn't really people always go, oh, it's a by—ele(|'m sorry. esn't really people always go, oh, it's a by—ele(|'m sorry. we've eally people always go, oh, it's a by—ele(|'m sorry. we've got/ people always go, oh, it's a by—ele(|'m sorry. we've got a matter. i'm sorry. we've got a heck on in this country heck of a lot on in this country at moment, still people at the moment, and still people chose their dog and chose to walk their dog and watch i it's very watch netflix. i mean, it's very concerning watch netflix. i mean, it's very conseriously, because i think >> seriously, because i think that if you don't see any kind of delivery the of sense of delivery in the economy, in housing and dealing with problems, with these big, big problems, you people, as michael you will get people, as michael gove over the gove warned about over the weekend, from weekend, turning away from democracy. not democracy. and so if you're not getting sense of getting a kind of sense of delivery, if people don't feel enfranchised, they don't feel they're any change, they're going to get any change, no wearing no matter who the person wearing the is a big, the rosette is. that is a big, big issue. and talking to mps, some are concerned some of them are now concerned that to be the that there's going to be the lowest british lowest turnout in british political post world war political history post world war one, be less than 60% the could be less than 60% of the turnout because people don't think there'll be real change. >> yeah. no real choice >> yeah. and no real choice as well. mean, don't think you well. i mean, i don't think you can voters when we're can blame the voters when we're going to sort of going back to that sort of penod going back to that sort of period in politics we were stuck

in for long brexit, in for so long before brexit, which of which is you are offered kind of competing flavours of blancmange. you're offered sparkling or still two of sparkling or still two kind of bank managers. um vying for their to the their candidacy to run the country. what meaningful difference is there really between starmer rishi difference is there really betweebeyondstarmer rishi difference is there really betweebeyondstarrkind rishi difference is there really betweebeyondstarr kind of rishi difference is there really betweebeyondstarr kind of party sunak beyond the kind of party political pantomime and now you've got the conservatives turning around and trying to deal the reform by deal with the reform threat by saying, a vote for is saying, well, a vote for them is just starmer. just a vote for keir starmer. again you have to again saying you just have to get back in line. people aren't putting up with this anymore and get back in line. people aren't pthink up with this anymore and get back in line. people aren't pthink they're1 this anymore and get back in line. people aren't pthink they're right anymore and get back in line. people aren't pthink they're right forymore and i think they're right for not putting it anymore. putting up with it anymore. yeah, the reasons yeah, i mean, one of the reasons that think you know, that i think that, you know, there apathy within voters is there is apathy within voters is because for the last 14 years, how have we changed how many times have we changed a tory time there is a >> and every time there is a change any we don't change of any sort, we don't actually see any type of improvement. think improvement. so i don't think that because of improvement. so i don't think thattwo because of improvement. so i don't think thattwo parties. because of improvement. so i don't think thattwo parties. it's because of the two parties. it's because really the 14 years, really for the last 14 years, labour haven't had a fair chance. we chance. but every time we promise by the promise something new by the tories, it. tories, we don't see it. >> now, shortly we're >> okay. now, shortly we're going to be having a head to head this because there is a head on this because there is a good that the only good case to say that the only chance that tories have chance that the tories have is to get rid of sunak just try to get rid of sunak and just try somebody to get rid of sunak and just try somebothat, i think lot against that, i think for a lot of people is, well, that would just ridiculous. well

just be ridiculous. well arguably would your just be ridiculous. well arguso.y would your just be ridiculous. well arguso do would your just be ridiculous. well arguso do wothink your just be ridiculous. well arguso do wothink yo any job. so do you think there's any chance should they get rid of chance or should they get rid of him? chance or should they get rid of hini'm sceptical about that >> i'm sceptical about that because all, i'm because first of all, i'm not sure in the wings. sure who's waiting in the wings. and second of all, i'm not sure who'd want frankly, for who'd want the job, frankly, for six lose in six months and then lose in a big landslide. >> but actually, this me. big landslide. >think actually, this me. big landslide. >think you're ly, this me. big landslide. >think you're right.s me. big landslide. >think you're right. but me. big landslide. >think you're right. but it me. i think you're right. but it winds me right up. okay because at moment in at this particular moment in time, know, if people hang time, you know, if people hang on, always sit there time, you know, if people hang on, they've always sit there time, you know, if people hang on, they've athe's sit there time, you know, if people hang on, they've athe unionhere time, you know, if people hang on, they've athe union flags and they've got the union flags behind it's just this behind them? and it's just this competition to see can competition to see who can say that and competition to see who can say thatthink and competition to see who can say thatthink if and competition to see who can say thatthink if you and competition to see who can say thatthink if you really and competition to see who can say thatthink if you really did and competition to see who can say thatthink if you really did loved you think if you really did love britain, you would grasp the nettle out some nettle and try and sort out some of these things that are therefore now one wants the therefore now no one wants the job, i'm job, do they? i mean, i'm convinced sunak doesn't job, do they? i mean, i'm convithei sunak doesn't job, do they? i mean, i'm convi the job. sunak doesn't job, do they? i mean, i'm convi the job. i sunak doesn't job, do they? i mean, i'm convi the job. i think k doesn't job, do they? i mean, i'm convi the job. i think keirasn't want the job. i think keir starmer is realising that it would be incredibly would actually be incredibly difficult. would actually be incredibly difficultwant the job because he doesn't want the job because he doesn't want the job because he doesn't wanting doesn't appear to be wanting to doesn't appear to be wanting to do things would doesn't appear to be wanting to do him things would doesn't appear to be wanting to do him keep things would doesn't appear to be wanting to do him keep it.iings would doesn't appear to be wanting to do him keep it. well, would precisely. >> but i think where the tory party are concerned, it's quite clear that they can't win with rishi leader, but it's rishi sunak as leader, but it's not that can win with not clear that they can win with anyone point. anyone as leader at this point. they've completely anyone as leader at this point. the opportunity ompletely anyone as leader at this point. the opportunity omplwere anyone as leader at this point. the opportunityomplwere given anyone as leader at this point. th1a>pportunityomplwere given anyone as leader at this point. thia combination nplwere given anyone as leader at this point. thia combination of.were given anyone as leader at this point. thia combination of brexit. iven as a combination of brexit. in 2019, voted 2019, people voted for a different politics. they different kind of politics. they wanted something more in line with interests, something

wanted something more in line with democratic. :s, something wanted something more in line with democratic. we've ething wanted something more in line with democratic. we've ended more democratic. we've ended up with of blairite with another sort of blairite photocopy, effectively and they're wondering why people have turned away from them. it really them. really shouldn't surprise them. but you come that but again, you come back to that equal tragedy, which is you look across the other side of the house it's house of commons and it's another blairite photocopy. house of commons and it's anotherno airite photocopy. house of commons and it's anotherno airite pichoice)y. house of commons and it's anotherno airite pichoice at this. >> do you honestly believe, joanna, that keir starmer can get to grips with some the get to grips with some of the massive facing get to grips with some of the mascountry facing get to grips with some of the mascountry moment?g this country at the moment? >> absolutely. mean, >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, even with the issue of immigration, i think that he has a much better and part of a much better plan. and part of that is that plan. that plan is that plan. well, processing a start processing people for a start and safe legal and also creating safe and legal routes. and of things routes. and one of the things that the government, the government, government government, current government have failed have completely failed at is processing if processing people. and if somebody shouldn't here somebody shouldn't be here actually back, actually sending them back, rather to have a home rather than okay to have a home secretary who held a sign that said welcome. said refugees welcome. >> you think he's okay >> sorry. do you think he's okay to a home secretary to have a home secretary that held refugees welcome? >> well, refugees should be welcome. asylum seekers should be and anybody under be welcome. and anybody under international law can actually seek asylum in this country. it's about whether that claim is actually processed within the right amount of time . and we're right amount of time. and we're not housing people in hotels .

not housing people in hotels. we're not keeping people for a year two and waiting and year or two and waiting and having taxpayers expense. >> final word to you on this. >> final word to you on this. >> the only thing i'd say in defence of government defence of the government is that, have that, of course, they did have the pandemic and turning off the economy, the economy, which all a lot of the left cheering on and then left were cheering on and then turning on, always turning it back on, was always going lot of money. going to cost a lot of money. billions we've billions and that's why we've seen taxes go up. okay. >> right. well still >> all right. well look, still to john lewis to come on the show john lewis has sparked anger with a bizarre staff suggests has sparked anger with a bizarre stafftrans suggests has sparked anger with a bizarre stafftrans shouldjests has sparked anger with a bizarre stafftrans should be :s that trans children should be given binders. prince given breast binders. prince harry sparked angerjust harry also sparked angerjust by being prince harry. really? paul burrell here discuss the burrell is to here discuss the duke sussex's interview with duke of sussex's interview with good and also as good morning america and also as well he does actually reveal well he does actually reveal well , well he does actually reveal well, something very concerning, potentially about the king's health. tuned that. potentially about the king's hea|up tuned that. potentially about the king's hea|up next tuned that. potentially about the king's hea|up next in tuned that. potentially about the king's hea|up next in the red that. potentially about the king's hea|up next in the head that. potentially about the king's hea|up next in the head torat. potentially about the king's hea|up next in the head to head, but up next in the head to head, the have certainly the tories have certainly caused outrage performance outrage with their performance in night's elections. in last night's by elections. david campbell bannerman this quy's david campbell bannerman this guy's grassroots of the guy's mr grassroots of the conservative party, this guy, he's going to head with he's going head to head with philip davies, conservative philip davies, the conservative mp, whether it's time for the mp, on whether it's time for the tories to ditch prime tories to ditch the prime minister rishi sunak this is patrick christys tonight and we

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always difficult for incumbent governments and the circumstances of these by elections were , of course, elections were, of course, particularly challenging . now, particularly challenging. now, i think if you look at the results , very low turnout and it shows that we've got work to do , the that we've got work to do, the most challenging thing about the circumstances is that it's not a midterms by—election, is it? >> it's election year. but with midterms by—election, is it? >> torieszction year. but with midterms by—election, is it? >> tories now1 year. but with midterms by—election, is it? >> tories now haemorrhaging the tories now haemorrhaging voters both labour and reform voters to both labour and reform tonight should the tonight, i am asking should the tories ditch rishi let tories ditch rishi sunak? let me know thoughts . email tories ditch rishi sunak? let me know thoughts. email me gb know your thoughts. email me gb views or gb news. com tweet me at and a

at gb news. and we do have a poll running, so make poll up and running, so make sure in that. the sure you take part in that. the results follow very , very results will follow very, very shortly. am joined tonight shortly. but i am joined tonight for epic head to head in for this epic head to head in battle royale by conservative mp philip davies. i've also got david campbell bannerman, mr grassroots of tory party. grassroots of the tory party. and david, i'll start with and look david, i'll start with you. you think that the you. okay. do you think that the tories should ditch rishi and at least try for the old heylman mary ? mary? >> uh, well, i, i do, patrick. >> i do think it's time for change. >> um, i regret we have to do this, but we've just had the sixth, uh, by—election loss. and what's happening is conservative voters aren't coming out. um you know, over 20,000 of them are are, uh. >> uh, you know, not voting in each one of these six by elections . each one of these six by elections. um, so i'm afraid it's elections. um, so i'm afraid wsfime elections. um, so i'm afraid it's time for a change. we can do it in a week, and it can be changed in a week. uh, you know,

you can consult the members in that time. um, and i think, you know, rishi is not happy in the job. it's quite clear, i hear from street that they've from downing street that they've given up. and in dale today was saying not even saying that they're not even campaigning now. so i think it really is desperate. we must do this for the for the good of the country. and the party. our own party. otherwise we get ten years of labour. >> uh, philip, i'll throw it over to you. i mean, if you've got a choice between certain death clinging on. why? why death and clinging on. why? why are you choosing dignitas ? are you choosing dignitas? >> well, look, i don't. >> well, look, i don't. >> i don't accept that, to be perfectly honest. >> look, of course the day's got a y at the end of it, so, of course, david's calling for rishi sunak to go. he's been. >> every of the >> he does that every day of the week, every of the yeah >> it's no great e—n >> so it's no great shock that he's, come up again he's, he's sort of come up again to say the same thing. >> mean, look, basically david >> i mean, look, basically david is borisjohnson. is a fanatic of boris johnson. >> he's fanatical about boris >> he's so fanatical about boris johnson. of the johnson. he was chairman of the freedom association and supported lockdowns . freedom association and supthat's lockdowns . freedom association and supthat's iuh, downs . freedom association and supthat's iuh, just,s. freedom association and supthat's iuh, just, just let >> that's how uh, just, just let that sink in for a couple of minutes but that's minutes. but that's how fanatically boris . and

fanatically is about boris. and of course, you have david's. david's right. >> i'll go on. let philip finish and i'll go back to you. david. go on. phil. >> david. david's obsessed with with personality. mean, david >> david. david's obsessed with with pmasquerade mean, david >> david. david's obsessed with with p masquerade me a |, david >> david. david's obsessed with with p masquerade me a right id would masquerade as a right wing, true blue conservative, um, as would i, but the problem was, i voted for to be the was, i voted for boris to be the party leader. um, and the problem was, he was too left wing for my taste. as it turned out. that's that's the problem. and the problems rishi and the problems that rishi sunaks dealing with. just to give examples , give you a couple of examples, patrick, uh, inherited patrick, uh, rishi inherited a huge migration figures from huge net migration figures from boris. boris was of course, very liberal on immigration. uh, he was when he was mayor of london. rishi inherited that. so he's now changed. rishi has come along. changed the immigration rules to stop dependents being able to come in to increase the amount that people have to earn before can come into before they can come into the country, tackle universities country, to tackle universities who immigration who are selling immigration rather education, and to rather than education, and to reduce the level of immigration into the country. he's delivering a more conservative agenda. net zero. boris was a net zero fanatic. rishi sunak .

net zero fanatic. rishi sunak. has actually delayed the vote to the route to net zero. so my point is my point is, patrick, is that rishi is actually take the personalities out of it on every possible policy area. rishi is delivering a more conservative agenda. boris look, david is that is that true? >> and you know, the fact is that even if he is doing that, he's not winning you by elections. is he? >> no . look, i'm not a fanatic >> no. look, i'm not a fanatic about boris as as philip, rather jovially put it . um, i mean, i jovially put it. um, i mean, i think you were going to support jeremy hunt, weren't you? against he was going to become deputy prime minister. philip. maybe that's the motivation , maybe that's the motivation, but, look, um , it's not about but, look, um, it's not about boris. boris actually . now, if boris. boris actually. now, if he was an mp, they'd be queuing up outside his office to get him back. we we've had a huge, um, surge of people sending messages to bring back . to bring back. >> oh, all right . we've got

>> oh, all right. we've got we've got an issue. >> we've just got a slight issue with your connection, david. and so we'll get that sorted. we'll get i'm going so we'll get that sorted. we'll ge put i'm going so we'll get that sorted. we'll ge put the i'm going so we'll get that sorted. we'll ge put the same i'm going so we'll get that sorted. we'll ge put the same questionjoing so we'll get that sorted. we'll ge put the same questionjoiryou to put the same question to you though, he though, which is, you know, he is elections. okay. he is losing by elections. okay. he is losing by elections. okay. he is you can't keep is and you know, he can't keep going saying, oh it's the going around saying, oh it's the midterms and stuff. it's election mean, guy election year. i mean, this guy clearly popular clearly is not popular. the people whether not people are not whether or not whether not you're actually whether or not you're actually really a of to really losing a load of votes to labour or or to reform. i think what we can't deny is that traditional tory voters are not actually going out and voting for him, are they? >> no, but this is not new, patrick. this was happening in 2022 when boris was was prime minister this is this is the same shropshire . we lost same north shropshire. we lost a 24,000 majority and lost it by 6000. and we did the same thing in tiverton and honiton. i'm sure david at the time was saying, oh, well, you know, it's just typical by elections back then. when then. but of course when it's a different doesn't different person he doesn't like, different answer. like, he has a different answer. but point is, is that but the, the point is, is that look, we're taking a look, we know why we're taking a kicking in these by elections .

kicking in these by elections. because over the last 4 or 5 years, we haven't been conservative enough. now, rishi bofisis conservative enough. now, rishi boris is not as conservative as people thought he was. rishi is actually more conservative than people he is. and if you people think he is. and if you actually look at the agenda that he's cut in down on he's pursuing, cut in down on legal immigration, trying to tackle immigration, tackle illegal immigration, pushing back the he has delayed, can i just can i just step in here though, because he here though, philip, because he has actually delayed and has he has actually delayed and rowed certain things rowed back on certain things like and like like the salary cap and like student visas and dependents and all of that stuff. student visas and dependents and all so that stuff. student visas and dependents and all so iiat stuff. student visas and dependents and all so i mean, f. student visas and dependents and all so i mean, it's all very well >> so i mean, it's all very well and good saying he's taken measures, but i don't know whether would, whether or not david would, would presumably argue that actually being actually he wasn't being completely actually he wasn't being compl> well , if he public about that. >> well, if he was doing so well, then the polls would reflect it. >> and , you know, this is >> and, you know, this is disastrous about 20% the disastrous for about 20% in the polls . um, we're looking at a polls. um, we're looking at a cliff edge here. we're looking at maybe 160 mps survive having , at maybe 160 mps survive having, uh, we're looking at maybe less than that. um, so i'm sorry it's not working. and we need to look at it seriously . and i think mp

at it seriously. and i think mp should set up to the mark and actually, let's have a leadership challenge and let's see what comes out of that. because if we get the right team in now, um, this game is all about getting back our own voters who are gone on strike. you know, as i say, 20,000in each of these by elections . each of these by elections. they're the ones we need to concentrate on. never mind labouh concentrate on. never mind labour. it's actually our own voters getting them back and away from reform as well , who away from reform as well, who are know, up to 13, as are now, you know, up to 13, as we saw in one of these byelections in wellingborough . byelections in wellingborough. so that's the way to go . so that's the way to go. >> well, philip rishi sunak might be a lovely guy. i'm sure he is. he does come across, you know, relatively nicely. i don't think anyone's you know, think anyone's really, you know, questioning him on that front particularly. right but coming out with with fags and a—levels , out with with fags and a—levels, a manchester party conference speech when everyone wanted come on, get to grips with the bloody country, get to grips with the economy, get to grips with nhs waiting get to grips with waiting list, get to grips with illegal immigration. actually do

something about it and do something about it and do something totemic. something about it and do something totemic . oh, i'll something totemic. oh, i'll do everything my powers. something totemic. oh, i'll do every he's] my powers. something totemic. oh, i'll do every he's not, my powers. something totemic. oh, i'll do every he's not, because owers. something totemic. oh, i'll do everyhe's not, because he's;. something totemic. oh, i'll do everyhe's not, because he's not well he's not, because he's not going is he? going to leave the echr, is he? he's it. philip has he's just not got it. philip has it . it. >> patrick. i couldn't disagree with you more. and it pains me to say that because you're such a great guy. but look, you say about leaving the european convention rights. read convention of human rights. read the read the front the rwanda bill, read the front page of rwanda on the page of the rwanda bill on the front the rwanda bill. front page of the rwanda bill. every to say whether or every bill has to say whether or not believes it's not the government believes it's compatible european compatible with the european convention human rights. the convention of human rights. the front page of the rwanda bill says secretary has says that the home secretary has determined that this bill does not comply with the european convention of human rights, but the government wishes pursue the government wishes to pursue it anyway . the government it anyway. the government is actually not abiding by the european convention of human rights to get rwanda bill rights to get the rwanda bill through. and so if david stopped the squad the circular firing squad attempt of politics, which doesn't work, and actually got behind , the government actually behind, the government actually tried to focus on what the government's doing well and turned our attention on labour. it's starmer who's a threat

turned our attention on labour. it'the starmer who's a threat turned our attention on labour. it'the country,3r who's a threat turned our attention on labour. it'the country, not ho's a threat turned our attention on labour. it'the country, not rishi threat turned our attention on labour. it'the country, not rishi sunak. to the country, not rishi sunak. we might get somewhere if we rode in behind other rather rode in behind each other rather than this ridiculous , pathetic than this ridiculous, pathetic thing. day of saying let's thing. every day of saying let's get rid of the prime minister >> now, look. hey, david, final word you on this. that's word to you on this. that's quite a good that's quite good quite a good that's quite a good point, because there point, isn't it? because there is a lot to go after is a heck of a lot to go after keir i mean, keir starmer. all right. i mean, he what his he won't tell us what his policies does. policies are. when he does. he reverses in the next day reverses it in the next day anyway. all right. mean ed anyway. all right. i mean ed davey missing davey is currently missing if anyone's you anyone's seen ed davey, can you please contact someone. so yeah, maybe should be maybe maybe you should be looking at those people. >> look what we're >> of course. look what we're trying do is stop starmer, trying to do is stop starmer, get there for years. you get there for ten years. you know a complete know that would be a complete nightmare. philip and i agree on that. do that . that. it's just how you do that. and i'm sorry, don't see and i'm sorry, i don't see i think the rwanda bill has problems and will hit problems legal obstacles pretty fast because they didn't accept the amendments . so let's see. but i amendments. so let's see. but i mean i think it's time now, i'm afraid for a change. that's what everyone's telling us on the membership. um, you know, people are up and we don't want are giving up and we don't want to be giving up. we need to fight this. the only way we're

going have chance of doing going to have a chance of doing that to get a leader and that is to get a new leader and get to true conservative policies. >> look, both of you. thank you very much, david. lovely all right. okay. i'll see you in a bit . take care of the night in bit. take care of the night in the studio. i'll be breaking up. right. agree right. who do you agree with? should ditch rishi should the tories ditch rishi sunak carol as sunak carol on x as unfortunately, rishi doesn't connect the people , do connect with the people, nor do those his party. i can't those in his party. i can't truly vote for any of them , am truly vote for any of them, am |, truly vote for any of them, am i, carol? i know the feeling. spencer on x says. what's the point? nobody else will be any good anyway. and they'll be out soon. i just don't care . and soon. i just don't care. and this is so annoying. but i agree with you again. i just don't care anymore and we should care. we've got problems we've got massive problems facing the facing this country at the moment we, me, everyone moment and we, you, me, everyone we massively let we know are being massively let down by our political class. eleanor no , not another eleanor says no, not another prime minister. change all right, well, look, your verdict is in 84% you think that the is in 84% of you think that the tories should ditch rishi. 16% of you say that they shouldn't look coming up. prince harry has been speaking to. morning

been speaking to. good morning america. saying good america. will we? saying good evening to paul burrell and asking what he made of it. quite asking what he made of it. quite a lot to go at, including potentially. is harry going to shred his british passport? and on a very, very serious note as well, a very concerning update on the king's health. so i'll bnng on the king's health. so i'll bring that you. other bring that to you. in other news, opposition leader news, russian opposition leader alexei navalny has died in jail aged 47. obviously, every man and his dog was queuing up to say that vladimir putin had assassinated him. putin obviously does have form in this regard, by regard, but we'll be joined by a russian and, russian historian and, crucially, former kgb man, to crucially, a former kgb man, to discuss what really happened. but up next, john lewis has sparked anger with a bizarre staff magazine, which suggests that trans children are given bread binders. there's a lot more to this as well, and frankly, i think some of it really is quite repulsive . don't really is quite repulsive. don't go

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. >> all right. welcome back. yes, i've got that kgb spy on the way . and paul burrell, with quite a concerning update on the king's health. but before that, retailer john lewis is facing boycott calls after launching a controversial magazine for staff which advises parents on how to find breast binders for their children . the identity, children. the identity, so—called magazine produced by the. oh, here we go. l g btec i a plus network. let me go was issued to more than 70,000 staff members. as well as suggesting

to parents that children who are unsure about their gender should be given breast binders. it also praised private clinic, gender, gp for prescribing cross sex hormones, so medicating essentially kids. here to discuss this, i am joined by the journalist and campaigner for the rights of girls and women. it is joe bartos. joe. thank you very, very much. boycott john lewis . lewis. >> oh, well, um, i mean, they've they've really sort of shot themselves in the foot by going for their sort of core demographic, if you like, you know, middle age women. know, cross middle age women. hey i mean, um, yeah . know, cross middle age women. hey i mean, um, yeah. um, clearly, um, what they've done is they've put out , um, trans is they've put out, um, trans activist propaganda , um, and, activist propaganda, um, and, and very dangerous propaganda at that. >> yeah. i mean, i'm reading through some of the things here, you know, it's been sent out to all 70,000 of its employees . uh, all 70,000 of its employees. uh, apparently it comes with tips from this controversial transgender charity, mermaids as well, doesn't it? now, i know a

lot of people might not necessarily be aware of mermaids and some of the content that they've been known for, but i think you might be a bit more clued up on that for people. so, you know, how dangerous is this? why should people that why why should people care that 70,000 john lewis employees have been sent some stuff about kids and breast binders? >> to start with, >> i mean, to start with, i think it's important to note that there no thing as a that there is no such thing as a transgender child. that is an entirely ideological concept. you know, you have adults who might choose take medical might choose to take medical steps uh, appearing as steps towards, uh, appearing as the opposite sex, but there is no such thing as a transgender child. now mermaids is currently under by the under investigation by the charity commission because they were found to have made a number of safeguarding failings , of safeguarding failings, including sending breast binders. that's like devices to flatten girls growing breasts behind parents back, so sending them to children . um, and that them to children. um, and that was a report that the telegraph um , discovered a while ago. now um, discovered a while ago. now um, discovered a while ago. now um, there have been other safeguarding failures regarding their trustees who have spoken

at um conferences, attend by, uh, sort of pro virtue was paedophile groups. um one of their trustees was found to have spoken at conference. uh, he then resigned, but still um, so there are very concerning charities and they promote as well the idea that if children aren't affirmed in their cross—sex identities , that cross—sex identities, that there's an increased risk of suicide , and that's just not suicide, and that's just not true . um, and we also know that true. um, and we also know that the side effects from , um, the side effects from, um, cross—sex hormones, and particularly from puberty blockers, which, um , which blockers, which, um, which there've been numerous court cases around, um , are cases around, um, are potentially very dangerous . potentially very dangerous. >> um, i'm just going to read this little statement from mermaids. it says mermaids has provided important support , provided important support, information and signposting to trans children , young people and trans children, young people and families for almost 30 years, support which we know is a positive impact on emotional and mental well being. in december 2022, the charity commission announced that it would be opening a statutory inquiry into the charity, noting time the charity, noting at the time

that opening an inquiry is not a find of wrongdoing. they said that they've cooperated fully with it. there's a wider question here as well, i think, isn't there? which is about the way that the corporate world just gets sucked into this nonsense . i refuse to believe nonsense. i refuse to believe that there was a huge amount of clamour from john lewis 70,000 staff that they needed one day to it a booklet to present it with a booklet that advised them about the idea that advised them about the idea that their child might have feel as been into as though they've been born into the wrong body, we need the wrong body, and that we need to breasts . to bind their breasts. >> absolutely. i mean, >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, it's just it's staggering to me that despite multiple court cases, despite clinicians saying, you know, puberty blockers are a bad idea , despite blockers are a bad idea, despite a sort of massive sea change in opinion, you've still got some idiot in an hr department who's been on a training course who thinks i mean , thinks they know better. i mean, it's not a it's not it's not just a it's not a cultural issue, it's a safeguarding scandal. cultural issue, it's a safeguarding scandal . what's safeguarding scandal. what's going the fact that, um, going on? and the fact that, um, that these sort of self—appointed idiots get some training and then think they're self—appointed idiots get some trai|expertsi then think they're self—appointed idiots get some trai|experts ishen think they're self—appointed idiots get some trai|experts is terrifying they're self—appointed idiots get some trai|experts is terrifying .�*|ey're self—appointed idiots get some trai|experts is terrifying . um,a the experts is terrifying. um, and they have absolutely no, uh,

right to, um, to sort of enforce this ideology on their, on their staff . staff. >> do you think there's a concern, though, that because of the way that things work in this country now and with quite excessive. whoa ideology and the pressure that comes with that, most people and you mentioned like middle aged women say, at the top when we first started talking here, i think i was quite a good example. you know, your average, well—meaning woman who works for john and who works for john lewis and just wants a nice, normal, steady life and is concerned about their own child or maybe even a grandchild or something, might feel a huge amount of pressure to go along with this because they don't want to get hounded out or hauled before a committee and told they're committee and told that they're being transphobic or their kid gets lunatic online gets told by some lunatic online to go no contact with them . it to go no contact with them. it just puts all of this pressure on people. just wonder how on people. i just wonder how what your views are on that . what your views are on that. >> yeah, think it's such an >> yeah, i think it's such an ill, responsible lie to tell parents when they're already

struggling, when they're already in a vulnerable position that, um, don't affirm their um, if they don't affirm their children, their children are at risk . i mean, that's not true. risk. i mean, that's not true. um, what's what's actually the best method is watch for waiting. so just support the waiting. so you just support the child, you let it. where would it want? don't affirm it want? but you don't affirm and that's what the leading, um, paediatrician in the uk, doctor hilary cass, has advised . and hilary cass, has advised. and she's been very clear that in fact, um, supporting a child to transition socially transition is not a neutral act . is not a neutral act. >> yeah. joe thank you. i mean, the more detail that you read on this is, the more shocking it gets you know, there's a quote here from , um, uh, know, a here from, um, uh, you know, a doctor talking about the dangers here from, um, uh, you know, a doct0|breastg about the dangers here from, um, uh, you know, a doct0|breast binding,the dangers here from, um, uh, you know, a doct0|breast binding, the dangers here from, um, uh, you know, a doct0|breast binding, the ideaers of, of breast binding, the idea that a, a major company like john lewis and by the way, goodness knows who else as well. i mean, this will run right through retail. it'll probably run right through the corporate world, you know, think that this is should be seen is something that should be seen as good people. yeah as a good thing for people. yeah it's absolutely ludicrous really. but joe, thank you very much, is of course, journalist

joe bartosh there. uh, look , joe bartosh there. uh, look, john lewis obviously are not here to defend themselves. however, a jlp spokesman said we want the partnership to be a place where people can work or shop with confidence, irrespective of their backgrounds. studies, backgrounds. multiple studies, including from including those from the government , show that trans government, show that trans people of people are at higher risk of hate discrimination. people are at higher risk of hatethis discrimination. people are at higher risk of hatethis magazine scrimination. people are at higher risk of hatethis magazine was1ination. people are at higher risk of hatethis magazine was created by and this magazine was created by our network to champion, understand and support well read into that. what you will look coming up. have the public lost faith in politics? where on earth is ed davey? there was a heck of a lot coming out about this by elections last night. rishi sunak is rightly copping it. what's happened to ed? it. but what's happened to ed? where dem leader? where is he? the lib dem leader? he's but next i he's gone missing. but next i spoke paul burrell earlier he's gone missing. but next i spoke princel burrell earlier he's gone missing. but next i spoke prince harry'sl earlier he's gone missing. but next i spoke prince harry's latestzr about prince harry's latest interview thinks the interview. now he thinks the duke should take american citizenship . and like i was citizenship. and like i was saying well , some concerning saying as well, some concerning news potentially about the king's health is patrick christys tonight.

friend of the show, prince harry, has been back in the news today. speaking for the first time in public about his father, the king's cancer diagnosis. well, he told abc's good morning america that the sad news may help to reunify the royals , help to reunify the royals, while also mentioning that he had considered becoming a us citizen in the past, although it was not his top priority right now. look, i caught up a little bit earlier on with paul burrell, former butler to princess diana, and found out what he made of a whole host of things and as well he has some quite concerning thoughts on the king's health. watch this . hey, king's health. watch this. hey, paul king's health. watch this. hey, paul, look, thank you very, very much for joining paul, look, thank you very, very much forjoining us. what do you much for joining us. what do you make of harry's claim that he hopes that the king's illness will bring the family closer together? any chance ? together? any chance? >> i don't think so, patrick. i hoped for that, but i don't think it's going to happen any time soon. that's short meeting. which harry had with his father at clarence house isn't going to bnng at clarence house isn't going to bring the entire family together

because williams made it quite clear he's drawn a land. he's drawn a line in the sand, and he doesn't really want to see his brother. you know , you can't brother. you know, you can't really blame him. and you wonder why harry got on an aeroplane and came all that way. well, he came because he wanted to see his six foot six father, but did he come for himself, his father or his media profile? and i think it was a little bit of everything. and i'm a little bit cynical about harry these days, because he is a tricky character i >> -- >> um, -_ >> um, well, lamar >> um, well, i mean , he quite >> um, well, i mean, he quite possibly has now spent longer talking to the american press about the situation than he actually spent talking to his own father, hasn't he ? own father, hasn't he? >> yeah. jo—anne nadler meeting at clarence house. i think knowing the king, knowing him very well, he would have made it quite clear to harry that he does not want his condition even to be made public. he does not want the american public to know what is exactly wrong with him.

and harry heard that loud and clear, because he went back to america with his tail between his legs, didn't he? mm >> he did. yes. and obviously he's decided now not to reveal that on american press. that was the fear this morning i think when we first realised he was going to be doing that, he was. do you think he was going to. yeah. >> yes. i think he probably was thinking about it because it would be a great asset for him, wouldn't it, to suddenly claim all this, he has all the king has this, he has that. he knew in the back of that. but he knew in the back of his head that he shouldn't say anything. patrick, this all harks back to me, to the meeting which harry had with the queen and prince philip at sandringham when he said to his grandmother , when he said to his grandmother, our dearly queen, that he wouldn't use the royal titles commercial gain, and that the queen said to him, harry, you can't and you can't have one foot in the camp and one foot outside. harry has forgotten that meeting. he's forgotten those words and he's just gone

off on a tangent and he's doing exactly what his grandmother didn't want him to do . um, no. didn't want him to do. um, no. >> it's very depressing , isn't >> it's very depressing, isn't it? and he was even saying it was continued . was continued. >> it goes on and on and on. and the reason it goes on and on is because harry's usp is being royal. he's a royal prince. and the minute he's not a royal prince and not attached to our royal family then what is worth ? royal family then what is worth? >> so do you think that there is seriously a chance that the only reason he got on a flight and came back to see our king was so that he could then continue to convince americans that he was somehow close to the royal family and that he's in the know, or he must really know what's going on. and it adds that intrigue for him. >> yeah, well, obviously harry is worried about his father , and is worried about his father, and he wanted to come over to the united kingdom, but he does serve him very well, united kingdom, but he does serve him very well , doesn't it? serve him very well, doesn't it? it serves his public and his profile and his charity very

well to be still connected to the royal family, because without that , um, what is he without that, um, what is he worth ? is worth? not very much . worth? is worth? not very much. >> no, no, exactly . um, he also >> no, no, exactly. um, he also said today that he thought about getting us citizenship . chip, i getting us citizenship. chip, i just wonder if that's a slap in the face. again, to the royal family there. >> i think . it is. you know, >> i think. it is. you know, because this harks back again to wallis simpson and the abdication. all those years ago and in the and the american being in the family and now one of their own is defecting to america. and that doesn't sit very well with our royal family. i don't think it sits very well with the british people. um he's no longer british in our eyes. he has turned his back on the country, on the people and his family and quite frankly , why family and quite frankly, why doesn't he become an american citizen? because he should see in america and work there and live there and be happy. he says he's happy in america . i'm happy he's happy in america. i'm happy for him. and he should stay

there with his wife and children i >> -- >> so you emma >> so you think that he actually should just press ahead with it and do it , should just press ahead with it and do it, stay should just press ahead with it and do it , stay there, not keep and do it, stay there, not keep bothering us essentially, and just go and become a us citizen. i do, because patrick is becoming embarrassed to the country and the british royal family and the sooner he cuts ties with everyone here and lives his life out , ties with everyone here and lives his life out, i'm very happy for him to live his life out on the californian coast and just do what you want to do, harry, but stop interfering in family politics and stop interfering in the royal family >> they're fine without you . >> they're fine without you. we'll survive without you and meghan. i will get on with it very nicely. just you know, patrick, this is the end of the line, really, isn't it? i mean, how many times can he reinvent himself ? how how many times can he reinvent himself? how many times can he and the duchess reinvent their charity and their website ? this charity and their website? this is the fourth time in five years that he's actually fell out with a different face. and how many times can he do that? mm.

>> just lastly, do you think the king will have actually told harry the specifics of what's wrong with him? because there is always that concern. yeah, i would think the king has told harry abies told him in no uncertain terms . uncertain terms. >> you must not repeat this to anyone. and if this leaks out in the united states, the shutters will come down once and for all. this is harry's test. really? he's been that to britain . he's he's been that to britain. he's seen his father and he knows what's wrong with him. and if it leaks out from the sussex camp, that's the end of the game. >> okay, look, paul. very, very finally on this. i'm obviously not, uh, for a single second asking you to divulge anything that you may or may not know about the king or anything like that, but i think there is some concern to exactly how concern as to exactly how worried we should be about the king with uh, do you have . king with this. uh, do you have. anyidea king with this. uh, do you have. any idea about that? yes >> i think we should be worried about king's health. about the king's health. >> is in his >> um, he is in his mid—seventies that they have

discovered this cancer in whilst exploring for other possible cancers. and this was a mistake. the fact that they caught it very early. i think is a very strong sign that there is a treatment for it , but he is treatment for it, but he is older than william and kate and you know , i just can't help but you know, i just can't help but think he's come to the job late in the day. he's got everything he could possibly want, including the woman he loves by his side . and what a cruel twist his side. and what a cruel twist of fate it is that he is struck down with the cancer . and how down with the cancer. and how long can he survive ? ideally, long can he survive? ideally, queen probably had some form of cancer herself. it was never revealed. we do not know. happened what she died of. but she lasted a year after her diagnosis . and i wonder what the diagnosis. and i wonder what the king is thinking right now. diagnosis. and i wonder what the king is thinking right now . he's king is thinking right now. he's thinking to live life to the full and to do what he can, because the time clock is

ticking . ticking. >> all right, paul, thank you very, very much. as ever. that is paul burrell there. we will chat again soon. take care. look after yourself . well, it's very after yourself. well, it's very concerning stuff. paul burrell there is of course, diana's former butler . anyway. look, former butler. anyway. look, coming up , we former butler. anyway. look, coming up, we will ask a russian historian and crucially, a former kgb man, whether vladimir putin is responsible for the death of opposition leader alexei navalny. he will be joining me live in the studio. he's going to lift the lid on putin's tactics and what he really thinks has gone on there. that story has barely been dominating the headlines. we'll also of also be looking at all of the front i'll front pages at 1030, so i'll have newspaper front pages have the newspaper front pages before anyone in press before anyone else in my press pack with my fantastic panel. but yes, next, look more on these by elections. now, labour may have won, but we are all the losers. all right, i'm giving out prizes to anyone who has spotted liberal democrat leader ed davey. seriously contact us. we are getting very worried about davey . all right. if about ed davey. all right. if you've seen ed ad whatever you've seen ed ad whatever

you've done, mate, it's fine. just home patrick christys just come home patrick christys tonight. a tick. tonight. i'll see you in a tick. that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler oilers. >> sponsors of whether on gb news . news. >> hello. very good evening to you. i'm alex burkill here with your latest gb news weather forecast the weekend's likely to start mostly dry. however that's not going to last long as there is a weather system waiting out to the west of the uk and it's this that's going to bring some heavy, persistent later on heavy, persistent rain later on saturday. for the time being saturday. but for the time being we are still under ridge of we are still under the ridge of high pressure brought high pressure that brought a quieter many today , quieter day for many today, however, we are going to see a bit more pushing from bit more cloud pushing in from the go through the the west as we go through the night cloud bring night and this cloud will bring some outbreaks of drizzly rain all towards the east all the time towards the east and northeast . there's some and the northeast. there's some clearer may turn a clearer skies. it may turn a little fresher than recent little fresher than some recent nights, dropping low nights, perhaps dropping to low single parts of single figures across parts of scotland. many are mild. scotland. but many are mild. start to the day tomorrow . the start to the day tomorrow. the best chance any sunshine best chance of any sunshine tomorrow be the east tomorrow will be across the east

and northeast early on, and the northeast early on, otherwise is going to turn otherwise it is going to turn pretty cloudy for many of us. that bringing a few spots that cloud bringing a few spots of more of drizzly rain before more persistent heavy rain pushes in from the west. due to that system. i pointed out earlier temperatures, though, will stay on the mild side. not quite as high they were earlier on high as they were earlier on in the week, but nonetheless several above average several degrees above average for of year . that heavy for the time of year. that heavy rain then feeds its rain in the west then feeds its way across the whole of the uk. as we go through saturday night and bh and into sunday, a bit of uncertainty as to how quickly it pushes through , but it could pushes through, but it could bnng pushes through, but it could bring impactful weather, bring some impactful weather, especially across england and wales , as we go into next

>> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight . christys tonight. >> midtum elections are always difficult for incumbent governments . governments. >> what tory mps are about to

defect to reform. also, we are being gaslit. >> understandably . we're very >> understandably. we're very pleased with those results. these were huge swings to labouh >> well , labouh >> well, labour lost and won all at the same time. >> plus i don't know whether i should believe the news. this horrible news or which an ex—kgb spy horrible news or which an ex—kgb spy reveals whether or not putin killed navalny and the muslim council of britain is a vibrant coalition of groups and associations dedicated to seeking the common good. >> has britain been infiltrated ? >> has britain been infiltrated? and i've got all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages tonight with the spectator's james heale spikes, tom slater and apprentice finalist and entrepreneur joanna jarjue. and you will not believe this . you will not believe this. >> hello, i'm admiral rachel levine. this black history month , i'm pleased to partner with omma . omma. >> yeah. more on that later. get ready. britain. here we go .

ready. britain. here we go. huge manhunt for missing politician. that's coming up . next. >> good evening from the gb newsrooms. just gone 10:00. our top story of the day. the foreign office has now summoned russian diplomats following the death of jailed opposition leader alexei navalny . leader alexei navalny. protesters have also been gathered outside the russian embassy in london. you can see there if you're watching on tv, those protesters calling for vladimir putin to be held accountable for navalny's death. and at one point earlier, members of that crowd held up their lights towards the their phone lights towards the embassy . in their phone lights towards the embassy. in protest comes after bofis embassy. in protest comes after boris johnson was among those condemning the kremlin today. the former prime minister said the death of alexei navalny plunges into new depths plunges russia into new depths of depravity , and he accused of depravity, and he accused

putin of putting him to death. the politicians wife, yulia navalny, told the munich security conference earlier. the death of her husband will not go unpunished . the uk, the us and unpunished. the uk, the us and the eu have all now blamed the russian president for navalny's death . two damaging by—election death. two damaging by—election defeats have piled more pressure on rishi sunak today. overnight, jen kitchen snatched wellingborough with just over 45% of the vote. that result came just two hours after labour's damian egan also won in kingswood, with just under 45. sir keir starmer says the double win is evidence that his party is a government in waiting . but is a government in waiting. but rishi sunak has insisted that labour doesn't have a plan . in labour doesn't have a plan. in other news, police say that they want to tackle the subject of female genital mutilation with, they say, empathy and compassion as they hope that more victims will come forward. it follows the sentencing today of a british woman who has been jailed for seven years, 40 year old amin nur was sentenced for helping a person to carry out a

procedure on a three year old british girl during a trip to kenya. the judge described it as a horrific and abhorrent a truly horrific and abhorrent crime . the bbc says that it has crime. the bbc says that it has been alerted to anti semitic behaviour by some of its staff . behaviour by some of its staff. in a note sent by the director general, tim davie said there is no place at the bbc for racist abuse of any kind and that follows multiple complaints about the bbc's reporting on the israeli hamas war, and comes after a contestant on the apprentice made controversial remarks on social media about that conflict. one former bbc director said earlier that it shows a significant failure from management to he says, tackle racism . dentist from overseas racism. dentist from overseas could be allowed to enter the uk faster under new plans to cut red tape and boost appointments. the government's proposing new powers for the regulator to streamline the registration of dentists who qualified outside the uk under current regulations, they're required to pass an exam before they can

start working . it's hoped that start working. it's hoped that the new move will speed up recruitment and entice more overseas talent to the nhs , but overseas talent to the nhs, but the british dental association's dismissed the plan, saying it won't be enough to fix what they've a bucket . they've called a leaky bucket. as we've been hearing tonight , as we've been hearing tonight, donald trump has been ordered to pay donald trump has been ordered to pay $3549 million in penalties around £280 million for fraudulently inflating his net worth to dupe lenders, the judge said . the former president has said. the former president has also been banned from running any new businesses in new york for three years. however the judge has cancelled a previous order for trump's companies to be dissolved , instead appointing be dissolved, instead appointing an independent director to oversee his businesses. this latest case comes as trump appears to be cruising to the republican nomination , despite republican nomination, despite multiple other legal battles. we expect he will, though, appeal that ruling . in greece, couples that ruling. in greece, couples are racing to registry offices . are racing to registry offices. after it became the first country with a christian

orthodox majority to legalise same sex marriage. at least one nofice same sex marriage. at least one notice appeared athens notice has appeared in an athens newspaper today, details of newspaper today, with details of planned nuptials, step that's planned nuptials, a step that's required under greek law. the historic decision was met with praise from lgbt campaigners and the greek prime minister has also called it a milestone for human rights that reflects today's greece . and finally, six today's greece. and finally, six time olympic champion sir chris hoy has revealed today that he is battling cancer, though he said he'd hoped to keep that information private . he says his information private. he says his hand was forced . the former hand was forced. the former track cyclist says he's undergoing successful treatment , undergoing successful treatment, including chemotherapy and in a social media statement earlier, he said he is remaining optimistic and wants to continue a normal life as he looks forward to the upcoming paris olympics . for the latest olympics. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> the real loser in last night's by elections is the british public. people were asked to choose between a party that has lied to them for years. a party that refuses to tell them what their policies are, a party who is party led by a bloke who is currently missing and a party thatis currently missing and a party that is promising to do a load of that the civil service of stuff that the civil service and left wing media will absolutely for. and and left wing media will absoldid.y for. and and left wing media will absoldid.y people for. and and left wing media will absoldid.y people do for. and and left wing media will absoldid.y people do ?»h and and left wing media will absoldid.y people do ? well,i what did most people do? well, they stayed home, didn't they stayed at home, didn't they? turnout in kingswood they? the turnout in kingswood was 63% of people was 37.1, so 63% of people decided they would sit on their hands at home. the turnout in 2019 was 71.5. by the way , in 2019 was 71.5. by the way, in 2019, labour actually got 5000 more votes than they did last night. they're and lost the seat. this is not tony blair in 1997. everybody calm down. the turnout in wellingborough was 38. so 62% of people decided they'd rather walk their dog and watch netflix than exercise their democratic right. the turnout in 2019, if anyone cares was 64. there is nowhere near enough pressure on lib dem

leader ed davey . where is ed? leader ed davey. where is ed? has anyone seen him? if you've seen ed davey, can you call the missing persons hotline please? he was last seen running away from a post office. ed, whatever you've done, just come home. people love you. well, i mean, not the voters , obviously. last not the voters, obviously. last night the liberal democrats lost their deposit in both seats. they got 861 votes in kingswood . they got 861 votes in kingswood. for a bit of context, nick, the flying brick of the monster raving loony party got 217 votes in the wellingborough seat. his manifesto reducing manifesto included reducing hospital waiting times by typing them in smaller font and replacing downing street with a hair called government hair salon called government cuts. rishi sunak responded to getting the kind of spanking that george osborne probably enjoys with this ridiculous statement . statement. >> mid—tum by elections are always difficult for incumbent governments , and the governments, and the circumstances of these by elections were, of course, particularly challenging. well it's not the midterms, it's election year, and it's particularly challenging because

of you, rishi. >> you're not doing anything. the people want. you're banning smoking increasing a levels. smoking and increasing a levels. keir said this keir starmer said this understandably, we're very pleased with those results. >> these were huge swings to labouh >> the wellingborough one was the second biggest swing in a by—election since the second world war. >> well, they lost 5000 votes in kingswood and gained around 100 votes in wellingborough, asking people to go out and vote for you doing them. you without doing them. the common telling common courtesy of telling them what voting is what it is they're voting for is rude, pathetic and weak. and the plan , ah well, are plan that, ah well, people are just so sick of how awful the tories have been . only works if tories have been. only works if you awful as well. which you aren't awful as well. which labour have been recently. like i the british public are i said, the british public are the biggest losers in all of this. oh, and just to clarify, there is no evidence that george osborne enjoys a spanking. he probably it . probably really resents it. let's of my let's get the thoughts of my panel have top political panel now. we have top political correspondent the spectator, correspondent at the spectator, james hale. i've got entrepreneur and social commentator joanna jarjue and editor of spiked . it's tom editor of spiked. it's tom slater, tom, i won't ask you

anything about george osborne. um, look, are our political class now just complete , class now just complete, slightly out of touch when it comes to the british public? oh, absolutely. >> but twas ever thus, really. i think there was this very brief penod think there was this very brief period where british party politics was interesting because we had the brexit vote, and they know they that had to know they knew that they had to respond. party in respond. the tory party in particular, realised that it couldn't this party couldn't just be this old party of establishment anymore. it couldn't just be this old party of to establishment anymore. it couldn't just be this old party of to establout1ent anymore. it couldn't just be this old party of to establout to |t anymore. it couldn't just be this old party of to establout to these nore. it had to reach out to these working communities. had to reach out to these working communities . what working class communities. what i the fact that that i regret is the fact that that penod i regret is the fact that that period being period of things being interesting, voters interesting, in which voters have for long interesting, in which voters have were for long interesting, in which voters have were kind for long interesting, in which voters have were kind of for long interesting, in which voters have were kind of centred ong interesting, in which voters have were kind of centred on a time, were kind of centred in a lot of our debates. that's kind of they've gone of over now. they've just gone back of factory of over now. they've just gone back yeah, of factory of over now. they've just gone back yeah, and of factory of over now. they've just gone back yeah, and that'sctory of over now. they've just gone back yeah, and that's really reset. yeah, and that's really depressing , to honest. depressing, to be honest. >> has to go, >> ed davey has got to go, hasn't he? >> well, i don't think is >> well, i don't think this is going thing that going to be the thing that forces because going to be the thing that fo he; because going to be the thing that fo he can because going to be the thing that fo he can survive because going to be the thing that fo he can survive the because going to be the thing that fo he can survive the postzcause if he can survive the post office can probably office scandal, he can probably survive deposits survive losing his deposits a couple the lib couple of times. i think the lib dems are sort of the dems really are sort of the mercurial of british mercurial striker of british politics. sometimes they have a great they great day, other times they don't last night don't even show up. last night they didn't show up all. but they didn't show up at all. but i they'll happy i think they'll be happy because, if because, you know, frankly, if you're dem, you're happy you're a lib dem, you're happy

to life. and you're a lib dem, you're happy to what life. and you're a lib dem, you're happy to what they're a. and you're a lib dem, you're happy to what they're aiming for that's what they're aiming for at election. at these general election. >> yeah. well, i mean, i >> yeah. well, i mean, yes, i suppose everywhere >> yeah. well, i mean, yes, i supposdeny everywhere >> yeah. well, i mean, yes, i supposdeny that. everywhere >> yeah. well, i mean, yes, i supposdeny that. buterywhere >> yeah. well, i mean, yes, i supposdeny that. but they'vee would deny that. but they've maybe knitting their own socks and putting them in their sandals we so we can't sandals as we speak. so we can't go of them for comment on go to any of them for comment on that. when you that. and joanna, yeah, when you look the labour look at this now, the labour party just stand on a party cannot just stand on a ticket, can they, of you ticket, can they, of well, you know, are know, hey, the tories are rubbish . rubbish. >> uh, i think that actually that them that will probably serve them well think well at the moment. and i think that they can and i think that in terms of just how people relate politics, think relate to politics, i think labour lot labour obviously a lot more trusted, of some trusted, even in terms of some of their politics going after covid know that covid fraud. we know that everything with conservative everything with the conservative party and their lanes when party and their vip lanes when it ppe , clearly they it comes to ppe, clearly they have a better standard in terms of morality than the conservative party. overall >> yeah, i mean, tom, when you look at it , the labour party look at it, the labour party lost 5000 kingswood and lost 5000 votes in kingswood and still somehow won. and i think they only gained about 150 votes. i think it was in wellingborough. i mean, this is not a stonking victory. i mean, the reality is that people are sitting home, sitting on their hands at home, aren't they? >> absolutely. i mean, keir

starmer's success so far is based on the collapse based entirely on the collapse of the of the tory party. the tory party of a party looks kind of like a corpse and he's kind of feasting upon it, really. there's nothing positive, there's no energy like people make. the 1997 people constantly make. the 1997 comparison. fundamentally comparison. it's fundamentally different i mean, different to that. i mean, i have all kinds of problems with new incidentally, but new labour, incidentally, but it's that at it's still the fact that at least had a kind of least there you had a kind of sense of this change. it sense of this being a change. it was something that the country was something that the country was people were was waiting for. people were energised actually energised by it. you actually had in the form of had a showman in the form of tony blair, keir starmer tony blair, whereas keir starmer is not a man who oozes charisma. if about so if you're honest about it. so it's fundamentally it's a fundamentally different proposition. and that's why i think going think the election's going to be incredibly negative, because people will probably deliver a labour government , but it won't labour government, but it won't be of enthusiasm , out of labour government, but it won't be desire enthusiasm , out of labour government, but it won't be desire for enthusiasm , out of labour government, but it won't be desire for change. |sm , out of labour government, but it won't be desire for change. it'll out of any desire for change. it'll just be we're fed up with this. >> and keystone was going >> and then keystone was going to with to have to actually deal with the that are facing the problems that are facing britain, not to britain, which he's not had to do. mention do. i mean, you did mention covid shudder think covid and i shudder to think what happened if what would have happened if jeremy whoever was in jeremy corbyn or whoever was in charge jeremy corbyn or whoever was in cha no, let's be real, some >> no, but let's be real, some of that keir of the problems that keir starmer actually deal starmer actually has to deal with now have been created by this like the this tory government, like the last well, just look

last 14 years. well, just look at the economy. think, you at the economy. i think, you know, about u—turns know, we've talked about u—turns before. for some of before. the reasons for some of these u—turns is because the these u—turns is because of the state the economy that the state of the economy that the conservatives left us in. conservatives have left us in. so that going be so i think that it's going to be very obviously, keir very hard, obviously, for keir starmer to be that ambitious. obviously to and obviously he wants to be, and there that he's put there are things that he's put in place before that he's had to dial because of dial back on a bit because of the economy. he. so i don't want dial back on a bit because of the bigiomy. he. so i don't want dial back on a bit because of the big promises so i don't want dial back on a bit because of the big promises that don't want dial back on a bit because of the big promises that aren't want any big promises that aren't actually be delivered. any big promises that aren't act|and be delivered. any big promises that aren't act|and of be delivered. any big promises that aren't act|and of course,)e delivered. any big promises that aren't act|and of course, 25 delivered. any big promises that aren't act|and of course, 25 years �*ed. any big promises that aren't act|and of course, 25 years ago >> and of course, 25 years ago we had a very growing economy under the john major and the conservatives. at the time, we don't now. of don't have that now. and of course, new labour years course, the new labour years were some extent by were sustained to some extent by having kind of to on having kind of ways to spend on different bits of the new labour voting different bits of the new labour votirnow. so keir starmer can that now. so keir starmer can have battle have a really tough battle keeping troops line after keeping his troops in line after the if he's going the next election. if he's going to to spend all to have to spend money on all these people, has these different people, he has none left. these different people, he has nor now, left. these different people, he has nor now, can left. these different people, he has nor now, can szt. these different people, he has nor now, can i just ask how >> now, can i just ask how significant do think the significant do you think the rise so rise of reform is? so they basically polling basically matched their polling last is last night. nigel farage is showing of lag showing quite a bit of lag when it comes coming back. i think it comes to coming back. i think if got if the tories have got any sense, they'll is sense, what they'll do is they'll a november they'll wait for a november election and make him choose between there the between going out there with the donald battered by donald or getting battered by the in the elements somewhere in

workington , and we don't know workington, and we don't know which to do, do which one he's going to do, do we? how serious is reform? we? but how serious is reform? >> i know which one i choose. yeah i think reform is serious. a the a serious problem for the conservatives. a serious problem for the conservproblem labour serious problem for labour so much taking much because they're not taking many from them. they're much because they're not taking margoing from them. they're much because they're not taking margoing 1win them. they're much because they're not taking margoing 1win the|seatsey're not going to win any seats come the but even if the the general. but even if the reform get 8% and of course they got in the two by got ten and 13% in the two by elections got ten and 13% in the two by electionto the tories 30 enough to cost the tories 30 seats. be the seats. that could be the difference bad night difference between a bad night and and from from and an abysmal and from from what from very what i've heard from very well—placed actually, well—placed sources, actually, the conservative party have been wargaming the conservative party have been wargaiting the conservative party have been wargait comes to, um, if nigel when it comes to, um, if nigel farage is leading reform or not. >> and they are anticipating that if nigel farage decides to come back, then he just gets about million more votes about 2 million more votes overnight. so i mean, that is a concern, isn't it? overnight. so i mean, that is a con no, , isn't it? overnight. so i mean, that is a con no, , iis't it? overnight. so i mean, that is a conno, , iis a it? overnight. so i mean, that is a con no, , iis a concern. and >> no, it is a concern. and obviously difference obviously the biggest difference now when now is that in 2019, when it was the brexit party they were the brexit party and they were kind avoiding the seats that kind of avoiding the seats that the conservatives probably would have now they're have won. so now they're an actual really actual contender and can really squeeze out . squeeze them out. >> this line that, that um, sunak especially i've, you know, i've had a pop at keir starmer there said, look, you're there and said, oh, look, you're your just we're there and said, oh, look, you're you the just we're there and said, oh, look, you're you the tories just we're there and said, oh, look, you're you the tories . just we're there and said, oh, look, you're you the tories. butiust we're there and said, oh, look, you're you the tories. but tot we're there and said, oh, look, you're you the tories. but to be a're there and said, oh, look, you're you the tories. but to be fair, not the tories. but to be fair,

rishi sunak really dining out rishi sunak is really dining out on idea now. oh, you vote on the idea now. oh, if you vote for get a labour for reform you'll get a labour government. mean, neither government. i mean, neither party doing party there is actually doing anything to actively try to convince vote for convince people to vote for them. there them. are they? is there any truth, if people go truth, though, that if people go out reform, what out and vote for reform, what they is just saying, they are doing is just saying, here starmer , here you go, keir starmer, there's downing have it. there's downing street, have it. i technically speaking, of i mean, technically speaking, of course be seats course there will be seats in which reform vote will cost which the reform vote will cost the conservatives that seat because labour will sneak through middle . through the middle. >> can you just >> but how long can you just tell you can vote for us tell people you can vote for us and won't do anything that and we won't do anything that you to but you've you wanted us to do, but you've just for your just got to come back for your dinner at every election anyway. it's anymore. dinner at every election anyway. itthink anymore. dinner at every election anyway. itthink it's anymore. dinner at every election anyway. itthink it's really anymore. dinner at every election anyway. itthink it's really interesting. re. i think it's really interesting. some rhetoric some of the rhetoric that's coming from reform, whether they'll not. they'll stick with it or not. but there's talk on the right of the tory party of we need do the tory party of we need to do away the tory party of we need to do av1this. we're a pressure valve of this. we're a pressure valve on party we're to on the tory party we're there to get our policies. get them to nick our policies. people enough the people have had enough with the conservative party and you can understand why. because they've said one thing and done another, and the entire time and basically the entire time they've government, they've been in government, particularly key thing >> well, the key thing for reform what do they >> well, the key thing for refornfor what do they >> well, the key thing for refornfor in what do they >> well, the key thing for refornfor in the what do they >> well, the key thing for refornfor in the senseio they >> well, the key thing for refornfor in the sense that ey stand for in the sense that often richard tice will talk about, say, net zero covid

about, say, net zero or covid vaccines or, you know, it jumps around ukip around a lot, basically, ukip had one thing which was getting britain the eu and they britain out of the eu and they achieved and was able achieved that, and they was able to issue cause. to bring a single issue cause. and really and that's what reform really lacking. to pick up lacking. they need to pick up and and then and run with one thing, and then it the conservatives. >> the argument against that, though, actually though, would be that actually now ceiling, because now there's no ceiling, because if you are putting something together dangerously together that looks dangerously like resemble like it might resemble a manifesto, then people can actually for actually go and vote for a multitude differentthings. multitude of different things. and, maybe, you so and, and maybe, you know, so you might who and, and maybe, you know, so you migroverly who and, and maybe, you know, so you migroverly bothered who and, and maybe, you know, so you migroverly bothered about who isn't overly bothered about stopping but stopping the boats, but definitely policy on definitely loves their policy on net opposed to just net zero as opposed to it just being leaving the eu. my being about leaving the eu. my concern question you. concern is a question for you. this, if reform this, james, is if reform did get in or get to do any of the things that they wanted to do, they're going to whopping they're going to get whopping great from great big pressure from the civil service and people in civil service and for people in left media well, you left wing media as well, you know, turning a boat back might involve the involve some people dying in the channel and when put this channel and when i've put this to tice , you know, are to richard tice, you know, are you able to front up you going to be able to front up to that? well he said he would, but mean , do you believe this? but i mean, do you believe this? >> think any centre right >> i think any centre right government, right wing government, right wing government that in

government that comes in needs to proper plan. to have a proper plan. and i think too often the tories to have a proper plan. and i thinkjumped» often the tories to have a proper plan. and i thinkjumped onten the tories to have a proper plan. and i thinkjumped on easy1e tories to have a proper plan. and i thinkjumped on easy solutions, to have a proper plan. and i thindone ped on easy solutions, to have a proper plan. and i thindone the on easy solutions, to have a proper plan. and i thin done the fundamentaltions, to have a proper plan. and i thin done the fundamental hard not done the fundamental hard thinking that thatcher did in the actually the 70s and 80s to actually address underlying issues address the underlying issues here. we have a here. and until we have a serious conversation that, serious conversation about that, we're actually we're not going to actually deal with facing britain. >> i think especially when it comes to, migrant s, if you comes to, um, migrant s, if you were look at reforms , plan on were to look at reforms, plan on a, you know, granular level, you would probably find that a lot of fantasy. and they of it is fantasy. and they should probably example should probably take example of what been through recently in have been through recently in terms of just the battles with the it's well, the courts. so it's very well, they'd ignore it. >> i they'd >> headline. i mean, they'd well, know that's not quite well, they know that's not quite true, actually, but they are they saying that there's they are saying that there's certain bits maritime law certain bits of maritime law that them to do it. that would allow them to do it. and just have and also they would just have the balls do everything that the balls to do everything that they could do. and you know, key thing is they quite like they quite idea of there's a quite like the idea of there's a lot that politicians lot of things that politicians say, when say, but, you know, when you actually the actually get into the nitty gritty, can they what gritty, can they pull it? what do vote for? farage do you ever vote for? farage >> um, it's i've voted for the brexit previously , but i'm brexit party previously, but i'm reform are a bit of an unknown quantity at this point where

they're and how they're going to fall and how they're going to fall and how they're going to fall and how they're going what policies they're going to fall and how they're going present»licies they're going to fall and how they're going present oures way. >> i'd have a drink nigel, >> i'd have a drink with nigel, but this is that you're but i say this is that you're not get a party of 650 not going to get a party of 650 nigel's. get nigel's. you're going to get if you if you look you look at reform, if you look at brexit party, you look at ukip, lot of ukip, there's always a lot of different not different characters and not everyone or worse, is everyone for better or worse, is like nigel farage. >> right, look >> okay. all right, well look lively. start and average lively. start and the average cost of funerals has skyrocketed. ingenious skyrocketed. but what ingenious hack have families been using to save money? seriously, save money? i mean, seriously, someone this someone told me about this earlier today i couldn't earlier today and i couldn't believe tell you my believe it. i will tell you my press pack coming very believe it. i will tell you my press but< coming very believe it. i will tell you my press but next, coming very believe it. i will tell you my press but next, conthe very believe it. i will tell you my press but next, conthe jailed ry soon. but next, after the jailed russian opposition leader alexei navalny in prison navalny was found dead in prison earlier today, his wife has called the world to unite called on the world to unite against putin. and so far a lot of world has actually. but of the world has actually. but i am going to be joined in this studio kgb spy studio by former kgb spy alexander vasilyev. that's .

>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . this is patrick christys tonight. >> we are only on gb news now. look coming up. i will have all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you flying in hot off the with my panel of the press with my panel of experts. first world leaders experts. but first world leaders have russia after it have condemned russia after it emerged earlier today that the jailed russian opposition leader, alexei navalny, had died in prison. his death has prompted this reaction. in london, protesters gathering and calling for vladimir putin to be held accountable for navalny's death is quite a lot of this is literally taking place right

now, actually, as we speak, putin's was, of putin's outspoken critic was, of course , in a russian jail cell course, in a russian jail cell since 2021 on charges widely regarded to be politically motivated . reacting to the news, motivated. reacting to the news, navalny's wife urged the international community to unite to defeat putin and his regime. well i'm joined now by the russian historian and former kgb man alexander vassiliev. alexander thank you very much for joining me. do you think putin killed navalny ? putin killed navalny? >> no, i don't here is the thing navalny died just a few hours ago . it happened today. no one ago. it happened today. no one knows anything about it . but the knows anything about it. but the anti—putin campaign started immediate early. it's now it's in full swing . no one knows anything. >> how about waiting for some solid evidence? >> how about investigating stuff? look thing is, that putin is president of russia . it's happening. >> it happened on his watch. >> it happened on his watch. >> it happened on his watch. >> it doesn't look good for him. but whether i doubt very much

that he's behind this, this death is that when we don't have any solid evidence , the only any solid evidence, the only thing we can do is to speculate. are we real? >> are we likely to get any solid evidence, though? well, putin's russia, well, at least some journalists could, could try to, to talk to some people to investigate it . to investigate it. >> but if we speculate , i'm >> but if we speculate, i'm trying to put myself in putin's shoes and i can't see the point of killing, killing navalny because it doesn't change anything. navalny is saying if safe for putin, would be safe in in prison . i safe for putin, would be safe in in prison. i mean, uh, he he was serving huge terms. he was serving huge terms. he was serving 19 years for creating an extremist community and nine years for fraud . right. so he years for fraud. right. so he would stay in prison for very long time. and his death doesn't

mean anything. >> it had already been, uh, an assassination attempt, though, hadnt assassination attempt, though, hadn't there, on navalny . and he hadn't there, on navalny. and he hadn't there, on navalny. and he had to be. you mean you mean the poisoning? >> yes . uh, poisoning? >> yes. uh, many people poisoning? >> yes . uh, many people believe >> yes. uh, many people believe that he wasn't actually poisoned. i do believe that he was poisoned. but again , i'm not was poisoned. but again, i'm not sure whether whether putin was behind it. here's the thing. >> do you think can i just ask, you know, who do you think would be behind this stuff if it wasn't putin? because i know a lot in this country lot of people in this country were incredibly scarred by the salisbury you salisbury incident. and, you know, be with it know, to be honest with you, it does there are quite does appear that there are quite a of russians who a lot of russians who accidentally fall off balconies around chelsea every around the chelsea area every now i think now and again. okay. and i think people incredibly sceptical people are incredibly sceptical when comes to putin. when it comes to putin. >> and i can understand >> yeah. and i can understand that. but, uh , in, in every case that. but, uh, in, in every case i would like to say and i think it's important to see a solid evidence. right i can tell you, since you mentioned the poisoning of navalny, i can tell you you you may you may know

there is this famous video , a there is this famous video, a kudryavtsev video, when navalny talked on the phone to , to an talked on the phone to, to an fsb officer and that guy name is kudryavtsev, he didn't recognise navalny and he was talking to him, thinking that he was talking to top security russian official . the interview the official. the interview the conversation lasted for 43 minutes. it was uploaded to youtube by navalny's team, and if you watch it and it has actually english subtitles and you can you can find it on youtube. it's called i called my killer, he confessed . if you killer, he confessed. if you watch it, you will see that he wasn't a killer, because at the beginning of the of the conversation, he's very confused. he has he has no idea where it the poisoning happened ehheh where it the poisoning happened either. it's omsk or tomsk, then. then i counted. he says about 15 times that i don't

know. i don't have this information. once he said that everything i know about this case i get from the television and the internet, i mean, we've had things like polonium in the tea over here as well. >> i mean , putin does kill >> i mean, putin does kill people , right? people, right? >> uh, even polonium litvinenko case. right uh, there was a final the final report on the litvinenko case by made by judge own . if you read it, i read it own. if you read it, i read it several times. if you read it, you will see that it doesn't contain any solid evidence . it's contain any solid evidence. it's speculation of the judge. the salisbury case almost happened almost six years ago, right on the 4th of march. yeah question where is the evidence? well, the novichok. yeah. no no no not of the novichok of the fact that of the novichok of the fact that of the alleged fact that those two guys, petrov and boshirov. >> okay, i do is a bit

convenient though , isn't it, convenient though, isn't it, that people who putin dislikes do keep dying? not all of them. well, no, because he dislikes a lot of people. but i mean quite a number of them are dead now and died through things and have died through things like poisoning, etc. >> uh, in 2015, as far as i remember, boris nemtsov was killed a very near to the kremlin . um some liberal people kremlin. um some liberal people believe that that, uh, putin was behind it. in fact , they found behind it. in fact, they found those guys who killed nemtsov there were some guys from chechnya. they arrested them. they sent him to prison for about 20 years. they're serving time. >> mm . >> mm. >> mm. >> so in every case, my point is that in every case, we need solid evidence. it's very easy. it's very it's very. >> we're not going to get it, though, are we? we're not going to get i mean, no, you know, at the moment there are you may but at the moment with at at the moment with respect at the moment there are protests taking around taking place, we believe, around the area. and as we

the moscow area. and as we understand it, journalists have been arrested, etc. again, this is videos coming out is from videos coming out online. that's the best we can do. in moscow, right? do. i'm not in moscow, right? but is best can but this is the best that we can do so if you are do with it. so if you are in a country where it appears that journalists a protest journalists go to a protest and get and then we're not get arrested and then we're not going to end up getting the evidence that you would require for cast iron proof as to whether not putin, which is whether or not putin, which is quite it? quite convenient, isn't it? >> yeah, actually, i agree with you. i think it's very difficult >> i think it's very difficult for independent journalists to work in russia. and i don't work now in russia. and i don't think it will be extremely difficult, if at all possible , difficult, if at all possible, to get any, any evidence . aukus, to get any, any evidence. aukus, on the other hand , it's very on the other hand, it's very easy to accuse putin and because putin, putin can't prove that he didn't kill navalny because it's generally it's very difficult to prove a negative and he can't prove a negative and he can't prove it , that he didn't kill it prove it, that he didn't kill it . as i said, the only thing we can do is speak plate. and i don't think the death of

navalny, as well as the death of bofis navalny, as well as the death of boris nemtsov , is in putin's sinner. >> do you think there's a chance? and i am genuinely just asking this as a straight question before, you know, viewers and listeners jump on me for think for this, but do you think there's that the tucker there's a chance that the tucker carlson interview with putin in the kremlin, which , you know, the kremlin, which, you know, went absolutely global, will whitewashed putin a little bit, gave him the opportunity. he thought he could have to in amongst all of this , with tucker amongst all of this, with tucker carlson going around to a russian mcdonald's and to a russian mcdonald's and to a russian shop and the russian subway, and it's all looking very nice in amongst all of that to navalny . to kill navalny. >> uh . no, i don't think there >> uh. no, i don't think there is any connection between between these two things. tucker carlson interviews was obviously controversial. he didn't ask many things which , uh, western many things which, uh, western journalists would normally ask. right on the other hand, he gave putin a chance to speak before

this interview to tucker carlson, released a four minute video talking about about propaganda by omission. um he he he said that, uh, if you don't let people like putin speak, if you show only one side of a conflict, like, for instance , conflict, like, for instance, the events in ukraine, right ? the events in ukraine, right? it's not exactly journalism . it's not exactly journalism. it's not exactly journalism. it's propaganda by omission . so it's propaganda by omission. so what he did, he gave putin chance to speak with respect . chance to speak with respect. >> then by that token, you know , >> then by that token, you know, been told that you had some formal links with the kgb when you were there, then why were you were there, then why were you ever asked about assassinating anyone? was this ever anything that ever came up? we or any of your colleagues? and i'm asking that because i think, you know, that is the question that people wanted to know. yeah. >> is that actually i know exactly how putin was trained, because i was trained at the same time, same place in same time, at the same place in mid and 1980s as i was

mid 19 and 1980s as i was trained for two years. he was trained for two years. he was trained for two years. he was trained for one. so i was trained for one. so i was trained even better . i trained for one. so i was trained even better. i had no idea to how kill people. i was never trained to kill people. it wasn't even mentioned an option to kill someone during our training to two year or use it as a tactic is more what i'm guessing. >> not that you necessarily yourself personally might, but that it would be a tactic to remove opposition. no . remove opposition. no, no. >> never. no, i don't think no putin. i'm pretty sure putin was never trained to do that because i wasn't. and that's why i'm so sceptical. you know , some sceptical. you know, some experts say that , well, putin experts say that, well, putin can do that because he's a ex—kgb intelligence officer. well it's not true. it's exactly because he was an intelligence officer. he wasn't trained to do that. that wasn't his job. okay. >> all right. thank you very much for your time. it's fascinating to talk to you again. i hope to talk to you again. i hope to talk to you

again at some point soon. is that alexander? vasily over there? he was former kgb man, russian . well, russian historian as well. well, it's quite lot to go out it's quite a lot to go out there, coming up, which there, but coming up, which charity the government charity is the government suggesting funding suggesting? scrapping funding for out press pack. for find out why my press pack. and also tomorrow's front pages as my brilliant panel of as well. my brilliant panel of guests. yes. i'll giving you guests. yes. i'll be giving you those front pages before anybody else christie's else is patrick christie's tonight.

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reconciliation . uh, again, paul reconciliation. uh, again, paul borrillo i had an earlier on things. definitely not the daily express evil putin will answer for what he did to my husband again. look, we have covered quite extensively both of the stories on all of well on the front pages so far. so what i'm going to do is i'm going to bnngin going to do is i'm going to bring in my panel again. we're going to talk about a story that is inside the is on the inside of the guardian. believe but guardian. i believe it is, but i think you might have missed think that you might have missed okay. and it involves something called network called the inter faith network work. right. which is well, uh, it's going to be withdrawing its funding. potentially. funding. withdrawn, potentially. it's that worked funding. withdrawn, potentially. it's over that worked funding. withdrawn, potentially. it's over 37 that worked funding. withdrawn, potentially. it's over 37 years: worked funding. withdrawn, potentially. it's over 37 years to worked funding. withdrawn, potentially. it's over 37 years to promotei for over 37 years to promote greater cohesion between different religious groups . but different religious groups. but it's been threatened with closure because the government suggested . well, michael gove suggested. well, michael gove really said he's thinking he's going to withdraw the funding andifs going to withdraw the funding and it's over. well, quite concerning which that concerning issue, which is that one trustees connected one of the trustees is connected to muslim to what's called the muslim council , and the council of britain, and the government standing government has long standing policy with policy of not engaging with the muslim britain due to muslim council of britain due to allegations that its leaders support violence against israel.

and, james, i'm going to go to you first on this. do you think this is fair enough? is it are you first on this. do you think thisin; fair enough? is it are you first on this. do you think thisin aair enough? is it are you first on this. do you think thisin a situation,|? is it are you first on this. do you think thisin a situation, a is it are you first on this. do you think thisin a situation, a bitt are you first on this. do you think thisin a situation, a bit like we in a situation, a bit like where we prevent , you know, where we prevent, you know, where we prevent, you know, where giving load where we ended up giving a load of lot of charities. of money to a lot of charities. and out that they and it turned out that they supported the taliban? is this a similar situation? i think it's really about, you know, long standing government policy for 15 been a well—known >> there's been a well—known boycott the boycott of the government of the muslim britain , and muslim council of britain, and this is really about keeping in line. course, the line. and of course, the question know, why question is, you know, why wasn't and question is, you know, why visuppose and question is, you know, why visuppose wider and question is, you know, why visuppose wider is and i suppose the wider issue is around conservatives around the conservatives and the government funding groups, which are sometimes in breach of government policy or going against aims. i'm not against government aims. i'm not saying necessarily in saying that's necessarily in this obviously this case, but obviously anything mcb anything with links to the mcb ought investigated. ought to be fully investigated. and you know, and so i think, you know, it's right michael is right that michael gove is looking at the funding this. looking at the funding of this. >> think, um, there is a >> yeah, i think, um, there is a concern in amongst wider society that maybe aspects of that society been infiltrated by society have been infiltrated by people who quite radical, people who have quite radical, fundamentalist views. fundamentalist islamic views. now, all of that is now, obviously all of that is denied in this particular article. we're trying are article. we're trying to are you concerned that? concerned about that? >> to an extent, >> i'm concerned to an extent, but i do think that it is, you

know, and what know, far fetched. and what michael gove proposing, michael gove is proposing, this is, know , an organisation is, you know, an organisation that's going for over 37 that's been going for over 37 years probably its track years and probably its track record speaks for itself. and it seems as if, to my understanding , it doesn't seem like, um, you know, this is a regular occurrence . occurrence. >> yeah. i mean, with respect, hassan , judy has not been hassan, judy has not been responsible for it for the last 37 years. this is the individual who's the former assistant secretary—general the muslim who's the former assistant secreta|oereneral the muslim who's the former assistant secreta|of britain, the muslim who's the former assistant secreta|of britain, who 1e muslim who's the former assistant secreta|of britain, who was uslim council of britain, who was appointed of 22 trustees appointed as one of 22 trustees of the ifn last july. the muslim council of britain also features heavily viewers this heavily regular viewers of this show with a new show will know with a new website that's popped up called the is the muslim vote co.uk, which is looking to mobilise independent muslim candidates to stand in seats that don't support a ceasefire . should we be worried ceasefire. should we be worried about this stuff? >> i mean , the muslim council of >> i mean, the muslim council of britain has, if you look at its track a lot of track record, a lot of questionable things in it, shall we of founders we say. one of its founders was a gentleman iqbal a gentleman called iqbal sacranie. he was very involved in campaign. in the anti rushdie campaign. i think at one point he even said that death , if anything, was too that death, if anything, was too light happen to light a thing to happen to salman he

salman rushdie comments that he later distanced himself from. but the problem is that even but the problem is, is that even though , as james was saying, though, as james was saying, over the course of past 15 over the course of the past 15 years, british government years, the british government has um, doing has maintained not, um, doing business with mcb, we business with the mcb, which we should procession should say has had a procession of since then. of leaders since then. it doesn't some of noises doesn't make some of the noises that might made that it might have made previously . also, i think the previously. also, i think the general policy the british general policy of the british state over decades to state over many decades to basically relate to basically try to relate to ethnic minority or religious minority communities is by either or dealing with either backing or dealing with these organisations, has empowered them to a certain extent. now they're of extent. and now they're kind of reaping that, reaping the whirlwind of that, too. is extended too. so this is an extended policy, still something policy, but it's still something which is people complain all the time has time that multiculturalism has failed . failed. >> e“- t- failed. >> end of the day, we are >> at the end of the day, we are where and we live in where we are and we live in a very society, and very diverse society, and we have find ways actually have to find ways to actually work that. understand work around that. i understand and i think there should be and i think that there should be and i think that there should be an into this, but an investigation into this, but to completely scrap it and then complain five years down the line, this organisation line, if this organisation has been relatively good work been doing relatively good work over the last 37 years, should we just can it at this point? >> but multiculturalism is not the same as living in a diverse

society. >> multiculturalism is a is a cate hollis nation. >> multiculturalism is a policy of again, trying to break up the society , trying to say we can't society, trying to say we can't relate all as citizens. relate to you all as citizens. so therefore we to so therefore we have to dress you you as you as muslims, you as christians, hindus, christians, you as hindus, whatever be. and a whatever it might be. and it's a policy has not policy that has failed, not least often lead least because it can often lead to the empowerment of particular groups are the groups and saying you are the authentic voice of this group. when mcb are when groups like the mcb are anything organisation anything but this organisation works cohesion. anything but this organisation worso cohesion. anything but this organisation worso it's cohesion. anything but this organisation worso it's about cohesion. anything but this organisation worso it's about the esion. anything but this organisation worso it's about the integration >> so it's about the integration as so we can't it as well. so we can't have it both ways. i do think that this should be investigated and this is serious, but to just is very serious, but to just throw in the bin 37 throw it in the bin after 37 years, i also the fact it's throw it in the bin after 37 years seven also the fact it's throw it in the bin after 37 years seven months:he fact it's throw it in the bin after 37 years seven months since :t it's throw it in the bin after 37 years seven months since that; been seven months since that happened i'm surprised it's happened and i'm surprised it's taken an taken this long to come as an issue. >> i think there's also issue >> i think there's also an issue around what they call sockpuppets when sockpuppets here, which is when effectively organisation is effectively an organisation is funded government funded by the government and it lobbies purely to get more government funding. i was struck by this article where by a line in this article where it the receives almost it says the afn receives almost two funding two thirds of its annual funding from so you from the government. so you think how independent this think how independent is this of the burnt before, >> and we've been burnt before, haven't we, with stuff like this? you know, have this? you know, we have had a situation giving a situation where we were giving a heck lot of money to heck of a lot of money to

various different aspects of the prevent then, lo prevent scheme. and then, lo and behold, roll behold, when the taliban roll rolled back into kabul, it turned a few of them rolled back into kabul, it turne rather a few of them rolled back into kabul, it turne rather happy few of them rolled back into kabul, it turne rather happy aboutf them rolled back into kabul, it turne rather happy about that. 1 were rather happy about that. and you think, well, if you've been de—radicalizing and you think, well, if you've been maybe de—radicalizing and you think, well, if you've been maybe de—shouldn'tig kids, then maybe we shouldn't have for that. have been paying for that. >> i just you this >> i just think, you know, this is money out. is taxpayers money coming out. you strict, you have to have such strict, um, of checks, um, level of checks, due diligence, you're diligence, etc. and if you're failing that, that's why the money withdrawn . money gets withdrawn. >> think is huge >> yeah, i think there is a huge amount because i, for one, am very the government is very glad that the government is looking at this. right. i'm looking at this. all right. i'm not no one it currently not i no one as it currently stands of stands apart from a handful of people enough about people know exactly enough about this categorically this case to know categorically whether funding whether or not this funding should withdrawn , but i think should be withdrawn, but i think there is a huge amount of concern about there at the moment, especially when you know, we have know, for quite a while we have people know, police officers people you know, police officers telling that, know, jihad people you know, police officers tellimany that, know, jihad people you know, police officers tellimany different know, jihad people you know, police officers tellimany different know, jihaand has many different meanings. and then we then a few weeks later, we banned a terror banned that group as a terror group, of group, like most of the countries done. um, you group, like most of the countrwhetherdone. um, you group, like most of the countrwhether orle. um, you group, like most of the countrwhether or notlm, you group, like most of the countrwhether or not they ou know, whether or not they previously had taken some advice from labour keir from the labour leader, keir starmer. what starmer. but coming up, what ingenious have families ingenious hack have families been save money for been using to save money for funerals? when i funerals? yes. find out when i reveal some more front pages and i will be crowning my greatest britain and union jackass as well. patrick

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is , of course, of navalny. is, of course, of navalny. there's also another picture that of keir starmer looking like he's about to headbutt you . like he's about to headbutt you. and it says, who is the real keir starmer by wife and keir starmer by his wife and friends. so you know, unvarnished. obviously the telegraph um, putin must pay for navalny murder checks on foreign dentists in nhs to be dropped to ease the crisis. you know, arguably just another example of how do we solve this problem? let's import more people. the guardian global outrage as putin blamed for navalny death okay, so look obviously again, very similar theme here on all of the front pages topics that we have discussed at length over the course of this show, which is why, yes, i'm joined by our press back political press back again, political correspondent at the spectator james social commentator james heale social commentator joanna jarjue and editor of spiked online, slater , spiked online, tom slater, although not necessarily in that particular order. and this is a story that, um, well, i just thought was interesting . so thought it was interesting. so i'm get your views on i'm keen to get your views on this. so it's emerged that families the families are battling the spiralling crisis spiralling cost of living crisis and they are buying used funeral flowers and tributes on second

hand online marketplaces like vinted and ebay. so it comes after a bombshell new report that the cost of an average funeral has skyrocketed from £1,800 in 2004 to just over four grand today . so, james, what do grand today. so, james, what do you make of this? so savvy shoppers are going on vinted apparently. and these websites and buying up old funeral flowers to use at their funeral. second hand funeral. >> yeah. i mean, not to get too ed davey on this, but, uh, you know, i'm not going to disappear from the conversation, but i want sitting the want a bit of sitting on the fence, that it is savvy fence, which is that it is savvy shopping if get the consent shopping if you get the consent of who died. say, shopping if you get the consent of know, who died. say, shopping if you get the consent of know, i who died. say, shopping if you get the consent of know, i mean, died. say, shopping if you get the consent of know, i mean, personally,y, you know, i mean, personally, i'm for my family, i'm happy to say for my family, they reuse flowers, they want to reuse any flowers, etc. of bargain. etc. get a bit of a bargain. i'll that organs, mate. >> they don't say it with flowers. >> no, i'm happy to. they're >> no, i'm happy to. if they're willing shell out for that, willing to shell out for that, put more money behind put a bit more money behind the bar, put a bit more money behind the bah on bar, uh, by selling it on afterwards. i'm very, very happy to i say that to give that. and i can say that to give that. and i can say that to my family now this, to my family now watching this, um, that clearly um, look, i think that clearly there's issues around, you know, sort etc. sort of cost of living, etc. which are more serious. on which are more serious. but on this know, this point, i think, you know,

fair you can get someone fair play if you can get someone else a flower second else to buy a flower second hand, on you. hand, good on you. >> you've got to be, um, it's got timing, got to be incredible timing, hasn't yeah well, hasn't it? yeah well, the chances feel it chances are that i feel like it needs its own app. >> you know, that's actually attuned you can attuned to this, that you can kind line your get kind of line up your dates, get it perfectly line, it all perfectly in line, because say, because otherwise, as you say, like, what are the chances it's gonna time? like, what are the chances it's gor but time? like, what are the chances it's gor but yeah, time? like, what are the chances it's gor but yeah, mind boggled. >> a learning you know, >> a learning system, you know, sort purchase kind sort of like hire purchase kind of you got it for of thing. like you got it for six hours, you've got to give it back, etc. one person loaning it out, i think there's a whole different market in this for zipcar, this grim. >> @ e- @ it is so e— $— @ it is so grim and i'm >> i think it is so grim and i'm really >> i think it is so grim and i'm realljwould want somebody >> i would not want somebody else's. i like it's bad else's. i feel like it's bad vibes. well, they're dead anyway i >>i >> i suppose both people involved dead. involved here are already dead. >> . >> i know. >> i know. >> i em?- e ii think that i'd >> still, i just think that i'd also rest peace. also like to rest in peace. thank you . yeah. you don't know thank you. yeah. you don't know where vibes have been, but where the vibes have been, but i do think it's sad. do think that it's sad. obviously. so don't laugh. it's not funny. i actually think that it's really, really grim and i feel bad for the people that might have to do this. well, i first read story. first read this story. >> somehow >> i thought it was somehow related valentine. i thought, related to valentine. i thought,

oh buying these oh my god, he's buying these flowers funeral home or flowers out of a funeral home or something that. you something like that. but, you know, it's just for one purpose. single also better than just >> it is also better than just nicking to honest, nicking them, to be honest, you know, it's got know, because if it's got something like but, something like dad, but, you know, got like know, if someone's got like a really oh, what really unusual name, oh, what were seriously this were the chances? seriously this person on saturday? i just like saturday? ijust like idea saturday? i just like idea of the >> i just like the idea of the edge cases, like someone saying it's not quite his name, it it's not quite his name, but it is only. >> 9" ma f'- f'— 5 he was a united fan. >> but we'll paint these blue flowers red and that'll all flowers red and that'll be all right. so anyway. right let's have at viral have a little look at this viral video managed dig video that we managed to dig out. couldn't out. now, honestly, i couldn't quite not quite believe i'm still not entirely sure whether or not this real. i'll be honest this is real. i'll be honest with black history this is real. i'll be honest with is black history this is real. i'll be honest with is celebrated history this is real. i'll be honest with is celebrated over ry this is real. i'll be honest with is celebrated over in the month is celebrated over in the united assistant united states. assistant secretary for health rachel levine wanted to provide an important message there. also, an admiral, i think, in the navy. just have a look. >> hello, i'm admiral rachel levine. this black history month, i'm pleased to partner with omh in advancing better health through better understanding . for black understanding. for black communities. climate change is having a disproportionate effect on the physical and mental health of black communities .

right? >> so that's a bloke, right ? >> so that's a bloke, right? mhm. who's white. >> it's a woman okay. >> it's a woman okay. >> and they are talking about black history . month and they black history. month and they crowbarred in mental health and climate change. there's a lot happening there. what is that. the most signalling thing the most virtue signalling thing you've . you've ever seen. >> it felt like the kind >> i mean it felt like the kind of full house bingo card didn't it? all woke issues, it? for all the woke issues, climate is racist . we've climate change is racist. we've got the transgender general . uh, got the transgender general. uh, i don't know how you would improve if more improve on that. maybe if more masks were being worn 2 or 3 or suspended, are sceptical suspended, that we are sceptical of that. suspended, that we are sceptical of h at. suspended, that we are sceptical of h just think even taking from >> i just think even taking from that, that climate change is racist. obviously, if you say that are going that people are going to say, oh, know, the weather oh, you know, is the weather racist ? now, obviously that's racist? now, obviously that's not the effects not it. it's the effects of climate change and how it actually affects living actually affects people living in areas . so if you're in certain areas. so if you're living in an area that's predominantly of ethnic minority , his that is more , his and that area is more likely to be affected by climate change. you're change. that's what you're talking that the talking about. not that the weather is racist. so

weather changing is racist. so i think it's very simplistic. weather changing is racist. so i think it's very simplistic . and think it's very simplistic. and you what you're doing with you know, what you're doing with that. look at that and that. you can't look at that and think a kind of think that that was a kind of completely normal, straightforward . straightforward campaign. >> that's such a bizarre combination of issues. >> if you were to if you were to have argument globally, >> if you were to if you were to hit; argument globally, >> if you were to if you were to hit wasn't argument globally, >> if you were to if you were to hit wasn't just,irgument globally, >> if you were to if you were to hit wasn't just, you nent globally, >> if you were to if you were to hit wasn't just, you know, lobally, >> if you were to if you were to hit wasn't just, you know, intally, if it wasn't just, you know, in america and were say america and you were to say climate change affects people, you closer the you know, they're closer to the equator, then that would make sense. does it not make sense. so why does it not make sense. so why does it not make sense america that you see sense with america that you see with massive weather with have massive weather conditions ? conditions? >> admirable . >> that's an admirable. >> that's an admirable. >> well, i mean, i was more surprised by the black history month link wasn't really sure month link. i wasn't really sure unnecessary . what the kind of as unnecessary. what the kind of as i understand it, black history is more about the kind of celebrating and past celebrating the success and past glories uh, particularly glories of the, uh, particularly black community and black american community and african american community. black american community and africailike erican community. black american community and africailike socan community. black american community and africailike so iin community. black american community and africailike so i wasimmunity. black american community and africailike so i was a munity. black american community and africailike so i was a little :y. sorry. like so i was a little bit it slightly bit i thought it was slightly jarring wall. yeah. no, jarring over a wall. yeah. no, of but understanding of course, but understanding contemporary, know, contemporary, uh, you know, struggles but found it struggles, etc. but i found it all bit odd, given that all a little bit odd, given that the was the one chosen all a little bit odd, given that th go. look, >> well, there we go. look, we've today's greatest we've got today's greatest britain jackass bring britain union jackass to bring you do shall you now. so let's do that, shall

we? james, let's start with we? um, james, let's start with your greatest britain. uh well, it's an honorary great britain for today, and it's , uh, alexei n avalny. navalny. >> um , for understandable >> um, for understandable reasons. uh, any man who can look death in the face and choose to go back to that earned my uh, obviously my respect and, uh, obviously a tragic end. and we hope tragic end. and we just hope that struggles russian that his struggles for russian democracy won't be in vain. >> indeed . joanna. >> uh, indeed. joanna. >> uh, indeed. joanna. >> great britain, please. uh, mine's an honorary one. mine's also an honorary one. >> it's south africa for >> and it's south africa for asking to order asking the icj to order additional emergency measures ahead of israel's assault in rafah next, to protect civilian lives . lives. >> incredibly controversial . not >> incredibly controversial. not only is it not british, but you've also crowbarred in the state. >> yeah . sorry. yeah. no fair >> yeah. sorry. yeah. no fair enough, fair enough. >> am i going to win today for once? no. >> obviously no , no, with that >> obviously no, no, with that suggestion, you know, no . suggestion, you know, no. >> oh, so he's picking navalny the ultimate trump card at the moment . moment. >> you can't. he's your greatest britain >> simon fanshawe just been made rector of the university of edinburgh, gay rights hero, edinburgh, a gay rights hero, but a gender critical hero but also a gender critical hero

and upsetting all the right people with this. >> uh, today it is n avalny. navalny. >> um, so navalny is today's honorary greatest britain. um, let's go now to union jackass. uh it's got to be sadiq khan. >> uh, i think on the same day he was, uh, jeopardising keir starmer favourite pub in kentish town with the delayed tube works there. he's spending £6 million on these new tube lines . and on these new tube lines. and there's all sorts of ironies. i mean, wonder who'll be the mean, i wonder who'll be the first woman to get dumped the first woman to get dumped on the suffragette line. you know, suffragette line. uh, you know, or the or if there's leaves on the windrush the irony is, windrush line. so the irony is, it itself. uh, you know, it writes itself. uh, you know, i think this will be kind i think that this will be kind of to see how the of interesting to see how the tube lines all unfold. but i think sadiq from of think sadiq khan from litany of failure, enjoy failure, i did actually enjoy the that did the the number that spike did on the new the county line on >> you know, the county line on the palace line. yeah the free palace line. yeah >> the linacre yeah. the >> the linacre line. yeah. the gender affirming care line. >> yeah >> shamima line. yeah >> shamima line. yeah >> she was good. yeah yeah, yeah. so there we go. right. okay. here is your who is your, uh, jackass uh, union jackass >> mine ed davey for >> mine is sir ed davey for hiding behind the failure of his own like you said. own party, like you said. where's ed?

>> where's that? where's that? we actually did missing we actually did do a missing poster elle edwards poster of ed davey elle edwards earlier on. i would just like to reiterate, you are, reiterate, ed, wherever you are, whatever it is you've done, however is , however bad you think it is, just come home, people are just come home, okay? people are worried you. ed davey worried about you. ed davey where is this guy? honestly? i mean, have you ever actually seen a more. oh, have got it seen a more. oh, have we got it right look, very seriously right now? look, very seriously here. look. missing person alert. ed davey has gone missing. liberal democrat missing. the liberal democrat leader . was missing. the liberal democrat leader. was seen running leader. he was last seen running away a post office, i away from a post office, and i cannot believe that this guy has got . he's got cannot believe that this guy has got. he's got a cannot believe that this guy has got . he's got a heck of cannot believe that this guy has got. he's got a heck of a cannot believe that this guy has got . he's got a heck of a lot of got. he's got a heck of a lot of front on him. hasn't he really? heck of a lot of front anyway. call that number on there. don't know. think fake. think know. i think it's fake. i think it's clock, actually. it's a talking clock, actually. um union jackass >> was torn between the >> um, i was torn between the two party leaders, two main party leaders, but given it's got to be given it's today, it's got to be rishi of given it's today, it's got to be rishi many of given it's today, it's got to be rishi many people of given it's today, it's got to be rishi many people will of given it's today, it's got to be rishi many people will be of given it's today, it's got to be rishi many people will be asking. him? many people will be asking. >> interesting, though, isn't it there leaders there that we've got two leaders of parties , of two major political parties, both asking similar both asking a very similar question the point of question of what is the point of you? and so where we are. you? and so we are where we are. today's union jackass, is ed davey. yeah, there we go. so all

of sir ed davey. sorry, sir. there we are. so so there we go. well, it's been an eclectic mix tonight, i must say. we've had everything from a former kgb agent paul burrell with some agent to paul burrell with some rather concerning news about the king, uh, to some chat about by elections missing poster king, uh, to some chat about by ele edins missing poster king, uh, to some chat about by ele edins butiissing poster king, uh, to some chat about by ele edins butiisscourse,ter for ed davey. but of course, my fabulous panel. thank you very, very have a very much. i hope you have a wonderful, weekend. wonderful, wonderful weekend. i'd also just like to say thank wonderful, wonderful weekend. i'd tvery ust like to say thank wonderful, wonderful weekend. i'd tvery ust like teverybodyk wonderful, wonderful weekend. i'd tvery ust like teverybody who's wonderful, wonderful weekend. i'd tvwatchingze teverybody who's wonderful, wonderful weekend. i'd tvwatching and verybody who's been watching and listening tonight. uh, headliners are next. they're going to be roaring the papers roaring through the papers for you way that they you in the way that only they know and you have a know how. and i hope you have a wonderful, wonderful weekend. know how. and i hope you have a worberful, wonderful weekend. know how. and i hope you have a worbe back wonderful weekend. know how. and i hope you have a worbe back on derful weekend. know how. and i hope you have a worbe back on monday eekend. know how. and i hope you have a worbe back on monday at

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system, i pointed out earlier, temperatures , though, will stay temperatures, though, will stay on side , not quite as on the mild side, not quite as high they earlier on in high as they were earlier on in the nonetheless the week, but nonetheless several degrees above average for year . that several degrees above average for year. that heavy for the time of year. that heavy rain the west then feeds its rain in the west then feeds its way across the whole of the uk . way across the whole of the uk. as saturday night as we go through saturday night and sunday, bit and into sunday, a bit of uncertainty as to how quickly it pushes through , but it could pushes through, but it could bnng pushes through, but it could bring impactful weather, bring some impactful weather, especially across england and wales , as we go into next week. wales, as we go into next week. and whilst after mostly dry and whilst after a mostly dry day on sunday, think we can day on sunday, i think we can expect some further heavy rain and winds by the middle and strong winds by the middle of week . of the week. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> you're watching and listening to gb news with me, sam francis . to gb news with me, sam francis. we start with the latest in our top story tonight, foreign top story tonight, the foreign office has now summoned russian diplomats following the death of jailed politician alexei navalny. it comes as protesters have been gathered outside the russian embassy in london, calling for vladimir putin to be held accountable death. held accountable for his death. earlier, a russia expert told media it is likely that the opposition leader was killed ahead the country's election ahead of the country's election next month crush dissent . next month to crush dissent. navalny's wife, yulia, has told the munich security conference. the death of her husband will not go unpunished. so far, the uk , the us and the eu have now

uk, the us and the eu have now all blamed the russian president . for navalny's death . in other . for navalny's death. in other news, today , we've heard that news, today, we've heard that two men have been arrested after a group of migrants were discovered back a discovered in the back of a lorry. unconfirmed reports suggest was a freezer van. suggest it was a freezer van. sussex police say one suspect is being held for people smuggling and the other for illegally entering ambulances entering the uk. ambulances police and border force have been at the scene in newhaven throughout the day . today. six throughout the day. today. six people have been taken to hospital but we understand no deaths been reported and deaths have been reported and news coming to us from new york in the last few hours that donald trump has been ordered to pay donald trump has been ordered to pay $3549 million. that's around £280 million in penalties for what the judge called fraudulently inflating his net worth to dupe lenders. he's also been banned from running any business in new york for the next three years. trump, though, has denied any wrongdoing and has denied any wrongdoing and has called the case political vendetta. this latest case comes as the former