>> hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's mine , it's theirs, of it's mine, it's theirs, and of course it's yours . we'll be course it's yours. we'll be debating, at debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in an hour's time is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy , and also labour cundy, and also former labour party matthew laza . in party adviser matthew laza. in a few moments time we'll be mocking the week with lewis schaffer. but before we get started, let's get your latest news sophia wenzler . news with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon . >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. it's 3:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. the family of alexei

navalny have demanded russian authorities return his body after his death in prison. there's been international condemnation of the russian president, with crowds gathering outside the russian embassy in london laying tributes and protesting . alexei navalny's protesting. alexei navalny's mother has been told by russian officials that her son was struck down by what they say is sudden death syndrome . the sudden death syndrome. the kremlin says the west's reaction is unacceptable, describing it as absolutely rabid . meanwhile, as absolutely rabid. meanwhile, those gathered at the munich security conference voiced their fury , with officials from the fury, with officials from the us, eu and nato laying blame on putin. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy told the conference the russian leader is a thug who must be stopped after the murder of alexei navalny . the murder of alexei navalny. >> it's absurd to perceive putin as a supposedly legitimate head of a russian state, and he is a thug who maintains power through

corruption and violence , coming corruption and violence, coming to his so—called inauguration, shaking his hand, considering him an equal means to disdain the very nature of political power . power. >> one person has been arrested as thousands of protesters march in london in support of palestine . up to 250,000 people palestine. up to 250,000 people are expected at the demonstration near the israeli embassy . around 1500 police embassy. around 1500 police officers from forces across britain are on public order dufies britain are on public order duties , with those taking part duties, with those taking part warned to leave by 6:00 this evening. gb news reporter will hollis is there . hollis is there. >> there is a sea of palestinian flags in the capital city today for the ninth day of protests since those october the 7th attacks. >> now there are hundreds of thousands of people making their way down park lane next to hyde park, and they're heading in one direction and that's towards the israeli embassy . they're calling

israeli embassy. they're calling with one voice for a ceasefire in the week that parliament will be voting for one. now what you'll also see is a lot of yellow jackets. the police here say that what is going on in the middle east, the conflict between israel and palestine, israel and hamas is having a profound and polarising effect on how they can police the capital city. >> now a third of small boat arrivals since 2018 have taken place, while rishi sunak was prime minister that's according to new analysis from the labour party that is after 52 people reportedly crossed the channel by small boat yesterday, meaning there's been just over 38,500 arrivals since mr sunak became prime minister. labour says it's proof the government's focus on its rwanda plan isn't enough to solve the crisis, but the government insists its policies are working with the number of crossings last year down by more than a third compared to a year earlier . than a third compared to a year earlier. farmers in kent are staging a protest at a tesco

supermarket furious at what they say are cheap. international imports. around 20 tractors are parked at tesco extra in whitfield, near dover, to raise awareness of what they fear could be a threat to britain's food security . they say they food security. they say they can't compete with cheap foreign imports and unless something is done, british farmers won't be able to afford to feed the british public. and donald trump has been ordered . to pay 354.9 has been ordered. to pay 354.9 million usd in penalties for fraudulently inflating his net worth to dupe lenders . he's also worth to dupe lenders. he's also been banned from running any business in new york for three years. trump has denied any wrongdoing and called the case a political vendetta. the latest case comes as the former president appears to be cruising to the republican nomination , to the republican nomination, despite multiple other legal battles . and the duke of sussex battles. and the duke of sussex is reportedly willing to step into temporary royal roles while his father undergoes cancer treatment. according to reports in the times, harry is said to have told friends he'd be

willing to cover some duties while father recovers . it while his father recovers. it comes after prince harry hinted at a possible reconciliation with his father during an interview on american television. he said he was grateful the time he spent grateful for the time he spent with his during a short with his father during a short visit london last week . for visit to london last week. for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now it's back to . nana to. nana >> thank you sofia. it's fast approaching six minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv onune 3:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i am nana akua and it is time to mock the week. and what a busy one it's been. it started on a very sad note, actually . one of very sad note, actually. one of my absolute legends of radio. steve wright, dj steve wright. he passed away so may he rest in peace. he passed away so may he rest in peace . but my midweek of course peace. but my midweek of course it was then valentines and saddos like me trawled the

internet to find things to do. keir starmer starmer sutra popped up keir starmer starmer sutra popped up a joke from conservative hq. it said that it was apparently the perfect valentine's gift for the politically promiscuous. written by the father of u—turns, it claimed to be the definitive how to guide on flip flopping into different positions on anything . different positions on anything. only available in paperback and spineless editions. hilarious hahaha. although keir was the one with the last laugh because at the end of the week, a week which has been dominated by the impending wellingborough and kingswood of which kingswood by elections of which resulted in the inevitable all the british public rightfully punished the dismal performance of the tories , handing the of the tories, handing the labour party a double win in wellingborough , wellingborough, northamptonshire. labour took peter bowen's former seat, which he had held for a majority of more than 18,000, and in kingswood , south gloucestershire kingswood, south gloucestershire they overturned an 11,220 conservative majority to win chris skidmore's former seat, a rather unfortunate name turn out

was almost half. it was previously , but the real winner previously, but the real winner was the reform party, who established themselves as the third party, ousting the liberal democrats, whose leader, ed davey appears to well be keeping a very low profile after the post office debacle and is repeated calls for others to resign. then after a dash to his father's side for approximately 45 minutes this week, prince harry claimed i love my family. crikey really? which family do you mean the king? fair enough , you mean the king? fair enough, but maybe you'd hope he could love them in a slightly less sort of branding them racist, writing and calling them writing books and calling them evil mean, how bad does evil way. i mean, how bad does meghan look now well? will meghan look now as well? will she and her some she go and see her dad? some people may be able to overlook their behaviour, selling out their behaviour, selling out their family cash , but their own family for cash, but i'm afraid i can't. harry's grovelling think grovelling now. i don't think that william will be as soft as his dad. harry is apparently his dad. and harry is apparently willing to take on some official dufies willing to take on some official duties to help his father during his illness . i'll bet you are, his illness. i'll bet you are, harry. no no, no. rule number

one. harry, never bite the hand that feeds. and that's us when it comes to the royal family. and whilst your dad might be able to forgive and forget, we'll but forgetting is we'll forgive. but forgetting is a whole different ball game. and one you clearly can't play. so why should we? sadiq khan is back on the map . the london back on the map. the london overground map to be precise , overground map to be precise, spending 6.3 million of taxpayers cash on virtue signalling instead of putting the money into making the lions run better. he's come up with new for them. the lioness new names for them. the lioness line, the mildmay line , the line, the mildmay line, the windrush line, the weaver line , windrush line, the weaver line, the suffragette line and the liberty line. uh hasn't he got a knife crime epidemic on his hands? actually make that a crime epidemic as well ? london crime epidemic as well? london is literally falling apart, and this is what he's doing . this this is what he's doing. this has to be a joke . we've had the has to be a joke. we've had the very suspicious death of alexei navalny. apparently putin had nothing to do with it in trusting. remember prigozhin and that mysterious private jet that

exploded with him on board, but then on a lighter, more on a lighter note, itv's this morning have decided against using alison or jody. have decided against using alison or jody . the latter alison orjody. the latter couldn't spell pineapple, instead , they chose to go with instead, they chose to go with cat deeley to replace holly and ben shephard to replace phil. it's been a mucky old week . it's been a mucky old week. right? so joining me to mock the week is the fabulous louis schaffer. but coming up, political spotlight at dame andrea jenkyns will be joining me live to get her reaction on those bombshell by—election results at it's climate results at 320. it's climate control. we'll continue to focus on the contentious climate debate. this week. we're talking about the future of not so cuddly bears and loads cuddly polar bears and loads more still to come. remember, get in touch gbviews@gbnews.uk or at gb news. right? or tweet me at gb news. right? oh, okay, so we've got a bit odd. louis schaffer here you are mocking the week. well, it's been a bit dirty this week,

hasn't it? let's, uh, start me off with the, uh, starmer sutra . off with the, uh, starmer sutra. >> well, the fact is, you're complaining that he's waffling or changing his things. is gb news is always talking about him doing that. but you should be happy that he's doing at happy that he's doing that at least time. least half the time. >> on the side. you >> he might be on the side. you want to you want him want him to be on. you want him to waffle rather than be full on. guess someone actually on. i guess someone who actually believed something. >> we kind of rather >> well, yeah, we kind of rather him actually believe something. >> well, yeah, we kind of rather him sayrally believe something. >> well, yeah, we kind of rather him say somethinge something. >> well, yeah, we kind of rather him say something and �*nething. >> well, yeah, we kind of rather him say something and then ng. and say something and then follow it through. he's follow it through. if he's genuine, know he's genuine, then you know what he's after. yeah. is after. otherwise. yeah. what is he what does he on about? what does keir starmer stand for? starmer really stand for? >> well, you're thinking this election is about keir starmer. >> only he's only getting >> he's only he's only getting in. know anything in. i don't know anything about this i've lived this country. i've only lived here so whatever i here for 24 years. so whatever i say, you know keir starmer isn't this election. rishi sunak isn't this election. rishi sunak isn't this this election is a really big election . it's between two big election. it's between two forces. it's between the rishi sunak, you know , keir starmer sunak, you know, keir starmer force and the people who are not going to vote because they don't support this guy. maybe they'll vote for reform. um hmm. >> well, that's interesting

because said that because richard tice said that reform actually not a it was reform was actually not a it was literally two socialist parties . literally two socialist parties. he was talking about the conservative party and the labour party, two socialist parties, because that's what they really, they? they are, really, aren't they? the the day, they're not the end of the day, they're not even all. even conservative at all. >> i call team >> i call it i call it team world that's what world team world. that's what i say. it's team world. it's people. both believe people. they they both believe a certain that is that certain thing is that is that there a country. certain thing is that is that there it's a country. certain thing is that is that there it's basically ountry. certain thing is that is that there it's basically the try. certain thing is that is that there it's basically the john imagine it's basically the john lennon song , imagine it's basically the john lennon song, you imagine it's basically the john lennon song , you know, imagine it's basically the john lennon song, you know, imagine there's no country. you know, imagine there's no it's just like peace on earth because there's borders . let people there's no borders. let people come and go. people do what come and go. let people do what they want. yeah. >> yeah. imagine >> that song. yeah. imagine there's >> that song. yeah. imagine the yes, exactly . well, that's >> yes, exactly. well, that's that's belief system. they that's the belief system. they both the exact same both believe the exact same thing. so. and the other thing. so so. and the other people just voting . and people are just not voting. and that's , um, what does that's why so, so, um, what does keir starmer believe in? he believes the same thing that rishi sunak believes in. you know, that nobody has to ask, even knows what you want him to say. >> it's such a shame isn't it. we've a mess in this country >> it's such a shame isn't it. we'veit a mess in this country >> it's such a shame isn't it. we'veit a m> it's such a shame isn't it. we'veit a m> it's such a shame isn't it. we'veit a m

prince harry. he said that he's willing now , if needed. yeah, to willing now, if needed. yeah, to step into royal duty because he's got nothing else to do. really? >> well, you know what? this this station and you, you're so against those against harry and meghan and, um , the truth is, i meghan and, um, the truth is, i really feel bad for the guy because he's . really feel bad for the guy because he's. no. really feel bad for the guy because he's . no. oh, my god, really feel bad for the guy because he's. no. oh, my god, i totally do. because he's been programmed to hate his father. yeah, it's something called parental alienation syndrome . parental alienation syndrome. and any divorce and most some divorce men see that. they see they've been distanced . and it they've been distanced. and it can happen to women, too. they see they've been distanced from their own children. they've been basically, their basically, they've been their children been that children have been taught that this bad guy. this guy's a bad guy. >> you're saying that >> so you're saying that princess sort of kind of princess diana sort of kind of engineered and programmed in into his dad in a way? is into hating his dad in a way? is that what you're saying ? that's that what you're saying? that's what you're saying. it's >> yeah, that's what i'm saying . >> yeah, that's what i'm saying. yeah.i >> yeah, that's what i'm saying. yeah. i think he's like the manchurian candidate. he's been sent from . it's horrible to say sent from. it's horrible to say this. he's been sent from the dead to, to harm his father.

maybe it's the tories. it'll make an incredible shakespearean tragedy . not that i've read any tragedy. not that i've read any shakespeare , but it would. it's shakespeare, but it would. it's a it's a tragedy. he would argue, though, that he's just angry at the way his wife was treated, and he sort of putting it out on the fact that he felt the family were not very the royal family were not very nice to not very inclusive nice to her, not very inclusive towards well, first of all, towards him. well, first of all, as i believe this, the royal family is not racist. they're not anti—semitic. they don't hate anybody. they only care about getting their strawberries and cream delivered on time. they don't care who's lining the route, whether it's jews or arabs or black faces. they don't care about this thing. i think he's trans , opposed his meghan he's trans, opposed his meghan for his mother or vice versa . for his mother or vice versa. you think i think so this is thatis you think i think so this is that is this wrong to say? >> no, i think i think it's a perfectly valid. >> have you heard this before? >> have you heard this before? >> not not from anyone. >> not not from anyone. >> do not from anyone. >> you do not from anyone. >> you do not from anyone. >> no, i get it though. >> but no, no, i get it though. some people may feel that he has kind of. sort kind of. he's sort of channelling energy, kind of. he's sort of chamother's energy, kind of. he's sort of

chamother's hatred energy, kind of. he's sort of chamother's hatred . energy, his mother's hatred. >> his mother was a poor little 19 year, not poor, but she was a 19 year, not poor, but she was a 19 year, not poor, but she was a 19 year girl. married 19 year, not poor, but she was a 19 yguy girl. married 19 year, not poor, but she was a 19 yguy andjirl. married 19 year, not poor, but she was a 19 yguy and she married 19 year, not poor, but she was a 19 yguy and she was married 19 year, not poor, but she was a 19 yguy and she was promised the guy and she was promised a whole thing. whole bill of thing. and meanwhile in with meanwhile he's in love with somebody it was it's a somebody else. and it was it's a really so sad for diana really it was so sad for diana and she had a divorce background, and she wanted a happy thing happy marriage. and next thing you is seeing you know, her husband is seeing some girl. and so , so she some other girl. and so, so she was angry . and prince charles is was angry. and prince charles is thinking, i'm, you know , he thinking, i'm, you know, he didn't get enough love either. i feel sorry for this guy. his mother left and went around the world she was lovely. world visit. oh, she was lovely. >> the queen, the late queen was amazing. >> no. my god , this is my >> no. oh my god, this is my last show. the late queen was amazing. good in many amazing. she was good in many ways. wanted a queen, she ways. if you wanted a queen, she was best queen. but as was the best queen. but as a mother, honestly say mother, i can honestly say i shouldn't say this. i don't think she was . why do you have think she was. why do you have me on this show? >> i love it this for that very reason. sadiq khan 6.3 million on a virtue signal loading lines. why is he spending the people's money in this way? and why is nobody saying anything? i want to hear from suzanne hall,

the potential conservative candidate or howard cox, the potential reform candidate who could potentially take this off. sadiq khan. why are they not speaking this is ridiculous. >> well, it's it was sprung on everybody. about everybody. did you know about that? about it. that? i didn't know about it. nobody so they're nobody knows. so they're spending this money spending £63 spending this money spending £6.3 million and no one knew about the press? about it. where's the press? where public where are the public consultations? one i consultations? no one knew, i think. was. it's think. i think it was. it's a good rename the train good idea to rename the train lines because all these train lines because all these train lines are. so they're like four of them. of them, whatever. of them. six of them, whatever. and all going these and they're all going all these different and they're all going all these diffe someone to come and they're all going all these diffesomeone to come and tell someone to come and you don't, don't know the don't, you don't even know the name. yeah, 6.3 million. name. yeah, but 6.3 million. >> listen, if you want to give me up with me 6.3 million to come up with some signalling lines, some virtue signalling lines, i'd which i'd like to know which advertising agency he employed to do this, long it took to do this, how long it took him. and why. why he's even done it in the first place. why has he this? it in the first place. why has he he this? it in the first place. why has he he hasis? it in the first place. why has he he has done this the >> he has done this with the virtue signalling he's virtue signalling because he's part world. he's rishi part of team world. he's rishi sunak he it's this whole concept is every include this. there is no country. nobody's english. our own history is bad . our not our own history is bad. our not by history, but whatever . the

by history, but whatever. the engush by history, but whatever. the english history is bad. and it's a denial of history. it's orwellian or something. yeah. not that i know of. >> i think it's an absolute absurdity that sadiq khan should be he's got knife be doing that. he's got a knife crime crime crime epidemic, a crime epidemic. stealing epidemic. people stealing watches off, people walking down epidemic. people stealing watt streets. people walking down epidemic. people stealing watt streets. peoplegot lking down epidemic. people stealing watt streets. peoplegot theg down the streets. you've got the burglar . he the streets. you've got the burglar. he has an all time high. london a lot of people are put off by it. and this is what he spent. £6.3 million. >> this could have been a bid to speak as to some he speak as to why some but not he doesn't people speak as to why some but not he doesn't speak people speak as to why some but not he doesn't speak out people speak as to why some but not he doesn't speak out and people speak as to why some but not he doesn't speak out and sayple speak as to why some but not he doesn't speak out and say why need to speak out and say why didn't this? but didn't we know about this? but the can something to the idea. can i say something to you? is right . you? nana the idea is right. it's like, for example, take the northern line. you know, there are six northern lines, six northern different northern lines, six different northern lines, six different northern maybe now northern lines, maybe more now because mill hill because one goes from mill hill east hill, overground east mill hill, the overground and the overground. i'm on and the overground. two i'm on that line. i'm that. call that line. i'm on that. we call it the. call it the ginger it the. i call it the ginger line, nobody knows to line, but nobody knows what to call because it's orange colour. >> 6.3 million. it's a waste of money. go a waste money. let's go to it is a waste of money. let's finish on this morning. morning, phillip of money. let's finish on this morning. beenforning, phillip of money. let's finish on this morning. been replaced’hillip of money. let's finish on this morning. been replaced bylip and holly been replaced by cat deeley shephard. deeley and ben shephard. >> i heard and i am >> i just heard this and i am

completely shocked you're asking me to comment on this. i don't watch itv. nobody's watching it. the numbers are going way down. nobody cares. people are watching us. they're watching us on youtube. they're watching us on youtube. they're watching us on twitter. they they aren't watching, you know what i mean ? watching, you know what i mean? i don't want to say the tv is down. no, but know what, down. no, but you know what, phil? phil schofield , he didn't phil? phil schofield, he didn't do the he wasn't the nicest guy in the world to do what he did, but he wasn't a horrible he didn't treated didn't deserve to be treated this i think just saying this way. i think just saying i'm not sure. >> well listen, lewis schaffer, you're are >> well listen, lewis schaffer, you'for are >> well listen, lewis schaffer, you'for headlining? are >> well listen, lewis schaffer, you'for headlining? i are you for headlining? yes i am, thank mentioning thank you for mentioning that. >> the is >> oh my god, the show is amazing. i'm on. i'm on with chris 11:00 and with cressida, uh, howie . and uh, wetton and josh howie. and basically review the news. so basically we review the news. so hopefully in a funny way, i know i don't seem like much of a comedian, but i am sometimes funny stuff comes out , sometimes funny stuff comes out, sometimes these funny. my mouth labuschagne. >> thank you very much. thank you for having me i love you, i love you, you. love you, i love you. >> thank you, i love you and >> oh, thank you, i love you and you're beautiful. >> oh, thank you, i love you and you're beadoful. >> oh, thank you, i love you and you're bea do you want? what do >> oh, what do you want? what do you want, larry? that's the

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radio. >> good afternoon. it's as fast approaching . 22 minutes after approaching. 22 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv, online, and on digital radio. it's time now for climate control, where we unpick the debate around the climate and today we're looking at the future of the polar bear. it's

become the iconic animal that represents global warming . represents global warming. that's what scientists say. scientists now say that the reduction of sea ice means that the giant bears are starvation , the giant bears are starvation, as they can't adapt to hunt on land. i'm joined by jonathan mccarthy , climate columnist for mccarthy, climate columnist for the independent, and climate scientist paul burgess. all right. i'm going to start with you then. so what this is this sounds their habitat is sounds sad. their habitat is melting . is sounds sad. their habitat is melting. is this right? >> absolutely . i mean, you're >> absolutely. i mean, you're absolutely right. >> the polar bear is loved by children all over the world. it's an iconic species, something we all love. >> well, poke your eyes out, but it eat you children it eat it, eat you children don't play with polar bears in my childhood anyway, we played with teddy bears . with teddy bears. >> um, the problem, of course, is polar bears hunt on ice. >> they depend on seals for their for their food . their for their food. >> and interestingly enough, they hibernate during the summer when the ice melts and then they hunt during the winter. and because the ice is melting for longer. >> so it's instead of 100 days, 130 days in parts of the arctic,

they are actually beginning to suffer and not get enough food . suffer and not get enough food. >> this doesn't apply to all polar bears . there are different polar bears. there are different populations. for example , in the populations. for example, in the deep ice melt deep arctic where the ice melt hasn't yet reached, but in the in medium to long terme, the in the medium to long terme, the future doesn't look good for the polar i that the polar >> but i read that the polar bear suddenly bear population was suddenly gone. exponentially . gone. gone up exponentially. couldn't that be part of the reason a of ice is reason why a lot of the ice is melting? there's of melting? there's too many of them. ice. them. they're thinking the ice. well, of them. yeah. >> what actually happened was that did something positive. that we did something positive. we listened to the environmentalists and what they did stopped did is they stopped hunting them. banned the hunt. >> they banned the hunt. >> they banned the hunt. >> so the polar bear was >> and so the polar bear was going through the absolute through the floor population dunng through the floor population during the 70s. >> and we agreed globally to actually put a ban on the hunt. and we saved them and they started recovering . however, now started recovering. however, now we to do the same again. we need to do the same again. listen to the environmentalists tackle climate change, stop burning fuels and we'll burning fossil fuels and we'll stop. the, the, the stop. we'll stop the, the, the arctic melting. >> what the polar bears >> and what cull the polar bears as are you saying >> and what cull the polar bears as the are you saying >> and what cull the polar bears as the polar are you saying >> and what cull the polar bears as the polar bears? you saying >> and what cull the polar bears as cull polar bears? you saying >> and what cull the polar bears as cull pol.know,'s? you saying >> and what cull the polar bears as cull pol.know, protectsaying >> and what cull the polar bears as cull pol.know, protect them >> cull the know, protect them for future generations? >> what do you think, paul

burgess? hi. well this polar bear has been going a bear scare has been going for a long time. >> it's not true long time. >> um, and it's not true. >> um, and it's not true. >> i mean, polar bears now . >> i mean, polar bears now. >> i mean, polar bears now. >> i mean, expert on this is >> i mean, the expert on this is susan crockford. if anyone wants to report and she to look up her report and she puts population now at about puts a population now at about 32,000, and it was to down about 10,000 in the 60s. >> and, and you know, it's quite right that we stopped the shooting. >> um, but since the scares were started in the 90s, all these scares , the populations scares, the populations increased when and as we got less ice, actually , i'll pass less ice, actually, i'll pass this along to you, but we've got the highest ice now in december 22nd. >> that was the highest level for 14 years. >> we've now got the highest level for 21 years at this time. >> where did you get that information? >> this, this this came there's the link and this comes from the us ice centre. these are people who are measured by satellites. it's the accepted thing. and i can the individual data can give you the individual data as well where the as well as to where the information coming from. information is coming from. >> coming the >> it's all coming from the official , the official source, official, the official source, which no one really argue which no one can really argue with, where they measure it and

pubush with, where they measure it and publish worldwide in america. publish it worldwide in america. >> you go to the site, >> and if you go to the site, it's us ice centre and it's the us ice centre and that's a fact. >> .gov for . >> .gov for. »- >> .gov for. >> that's right. .gov. >> that's right. .gov. >> well, well, well, listen , >> well, well, well, listen, she's found some figures that say that the ice isn't actually melting. this is recovering melting. and this is recovering now. recovering the ice, melting ice, the amount of ice goes up and down every year depending on the however, depending on the >> however, depending on the climate, we've lost 70% of the volume . volume. >> but they said this is about the reefs. said the coral reefs. they said the coral will gone. coral reefs will be gone. >> in last years we've >> in the last 30 years we've lost already 70% volume of lost already 70% of volume of the summer ice and we've lost 50% of the area covered by it . 50% of the area covered by it. you look up the noaa , which is you look up the noaa, which is the us government website. it lists the figure. yes, it goes up and down, as paul rightly says, but if you look at a track, it's gone down by 70. we've lost the volume . we've lost the volume. >> that's not so. the in actual fact , they start the records in fact, they start the records in 1979. the 19705, fact, they start the records in 1979. the 1970s, with the ice age coming scare. so they started the records at a very high level. now, if you take the

records prior to 1979, you'll see a cycle . so if you're going see a cycle. so if you're going to take if there's a cycle like this and you're going to take just downside, that just the downside, but that downside gone like that and downside has gone like that and then it's flattened right . then it's flattened out right. and report on polar and even this report on polar bears and i read the actual paper this , and even they're paper on this, and even they're not claiming ice is not claiming that the ice is going. just saying if going. they're just saying if theice going. they're just saying if the ice goes there's no study on that that's behind that. the study that's behind this , that study is not this story, that study is not about ice. this story, that study is not aboit'sce. this story, that study is not aboit's about the polar bear >> it's about the polar bear population. would population. so why would they be about. >> $- t— w it's about 20 polar >> no, no, it's about 20 polar bears tiny little area. so bears and a tiny little area. so it's relevance to ice. do it's got no relevance to ice. do you agree. exactly. good. you agree. exactly. oh, good. we both you agree. exactly. oh, good. we bot you just said you agree. exactly. oh, good. we botyou just said was. they >> you just said it was. they didn't ice and you didn't mention the ice and you said that? >> no, but i'm talking about the bbc the reported bbc and the way the bbc reported it, bbc reported it, the way the bbc reported that was ice is going. the that was the ice is going. the polar suffering. polar bears are suffering. they're now at a population of about according to susan about 32,000, according to susan crockford, who's expert? you crockford, who's the expert? you know, in hudson bay. >> but the bbc was saying in that hudson bay , which that area in hudson bay, which is said. is what i said. >> yes, area of the there's 19 separate populations of paul coyte , and some of those coyte, and some of those populations are in areas where

theice populations are in areas where the ice is or going, and the ice is gone or going, and those are the ones they those are the ones that they studied, ones studied, and those are the ones that beginning starve. that are beginning to starve. >> actually >> no, no, no, there's actually if you look at the crockford report on this, you'll see you'll the western hudson you'll see the western hudson bay the hudson bay. bay and the eastern hudson bay. now, one those decreased by now, one of those decreased by 27% population. that's a fact. but the other side increase by 30. look, you can't deny the fact that we now have more polar bears than we've started since we started recording . we started recording. >> i actually said the numbers have increased because stopped. >> and what you're basing everything on, what you're basing everything then is the basing everything on then is the scare story about co2. basing everything on then is the scare sti'm about co2. basing everything on then is the scare sti'm not it co2. basing everything on then is the scare sti'm not talking about you >> no, i'm not talking about you are saying you're are because you're saying you're saying to action. saying we've got to take action. >> didn't the factual fact >> i didn't the factual fact whether believe in climate whether you believe in climate science or not, all i believe in climate science. 95% of the world's believing the climate. whether is not true. whether you believe is not true. let yeah. if you let me finish. yeah. if you whether believe in climate whether you believe in climate science lost 70% science or not, we have lost 70% of ice. and that means. science or not, we have lost 70% of whenind that means. science or not, we have lost 70% of when ?d that means. since when? >> since don't use >> since when? don't use statistics . statistics. >> since when? >> since when? >> their population. when >> their population. since when have we lost 70% the ice? have we lost 70% of the ice? >> we have lost 70 of the

historical 70 since historical period, since the 70s. >> since when ? 1979. >> since when? 1979. >> since when? 1979. >> since when? 1979. >> since the 70s. >> since the 70s. >> you can. no, no, no, you see? no,— >> you can. no, no, no, you see? no, no, you're cherry picking statistics, actually checking. >> no. >> em- em.- >> everyone can look it up. all the start in there the records start in 1979. there they . they are. >> nice as an erratic there. they are eccentric on this issue . the vast majority of the mainstream scientists understand don't use. >> an assertion . an >> that's an assertion. an that's an assertion. appeal to authority . authority. >> fair em- authority. >> fair to say that >> that's not fair to say that he's an erratic. he's recognised as an erratic. it that's fair. it is. that's not fair. >> look at climate >> if you look at climate science . yeah, look at the science. yeah, but look at the legitimate science. but is legitimate science. but paul is outside that mainstream. no i'm not. >> no, hold on, hold on, hold on. got this. hold on. on. sorry i got this. hold on. sorry though to sorry it's not fair though to label people just because you think might think other people might recognise way. recognise or label him that way. i recognise that way. i don't recognise him that way. i don't recognise him that way. i see as putting forward i see him as putting forward a different and different perspective and i think it's a valid perspective that think that should and i think the other perspective always other perspective should always be and think what i think >> and i think what i think you're it person, you're fair to call it a person, i think. but the science that he's is erratic and he's referring to is erratic and is outside the mainstream. >> is not that is not >> that is not that is not correct. but never >> that is not that is not correc'that's but never >> that is not that is not correc'that's an but never >> that is not that is not

correc'that's an appealver >> that is not that is not correc'that's an appeal to mind. that's an appeal to authority. you can argue about your you can argue about your god and i can argue about my god. nowhere. is god. this is nowhere. this is the multidecadal the atlantic multidecadal oscillation. this is taken from the , by the way. the met office, by the way. right. this shows you the right. and this shows you the warm period the in the warm period in the in the atlantic lasts for about 30 atlantic that lasts for about 30 years. we're coming to an end of this now. this started this penod this now. this started this period warming. it goes to period of warming. it goes to cooling. of warming cooling. this period of warming started 1995. we've had 29 started in 1995. we've had 29 years of this warming . that's years of this warming. that's what melts ice. it isn't the temperature that melts the ice. it's the temperature. it's it's the water temperature. it's the water temperature. >> well, when somebody says, this isn't what temperature that melts water. >> said, it's the water >> no, i said, it's the water temperature the ice. temperature that melts the ice. >> science we're talking >> a real science we're talking about eccentric science. >> sorry. ridiculous. >> i'm sorry. that's ridiculous. i mean, if the water is warm underneath the ice, the temperature has nothing to do with. >> no, i didn't say that. >> no, i didn't say that. >> you're misquoting me. i said >> no, i didn't say that. >> water misquoting me. i said >> no, i didn't say that. >> water temperature me. i said >> no, i didn't say that. >> water temperature controlsd the water temperature controls the water temperature controls the melt, not air the ice melt, not the air temperature . don't misquote me. temperature. don't misquote me. >> fair enough. fair >> okay, so fair enough. fair enough. line is enough. but the bottom line is we. it's good to dissect the story . tell something about story. tell us something about the i want to hear

the polar bears. i want to hear the polar bears. i want to hear the full story. i'm going to the full story. so i'm going to say you so to, say thank you so much to, uh, paul climate scientist. paul burgess, climate scientist. and mccarthy. he's a and also mccarthy. he's a climate columnist on, in the, in the, in the independent. i could get there in the end. you take them out, put them back in. this is on tv, online, is gb news on tv, online, digital nana akua on digital radio. i'm nana akua on the andrea jenkins the way. dame andrea jenkins gives verdict gives her verdict on the bombshell elections have bombshell by elections that have ruined week. ruined rishi sunak week. but first, let's get your latest headunes first, let's get your latest headlines sofia . headlines with sofia. >> thank you. nana. it's 330. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines . the newsroom. your headlines. the family of alexei navalny have demanded russian authorities return his body after his death in prison. mr navalny's mother has been told by russian officials that her son was struck down by what they called sudden death syndrome . the sudden death syndrome. the kremlin says the west's reaction is unacceptable, describing it as absolutely rabid. meanwhile all those gathered at the munich security conference voiced their fury with officials from the us,

eu and nato laying blame on putin, while the ukrainian president called for more support in his country's war against russia's invasion . ten against russia's invasion. ten people have been arrested as thousands of protesters march in london in support of palestine . london in support of palestine. up london in support of palestine. up to 250,000 people are expected at the demonstration near the israeli embassy . around near the israeli embassy. around 1500 police officers from forces across britain are on public order duties, with those taking part warned to leave by 6:00 this evening . a third of small this evening. a third of small boat arrivals since 2018 have taken place, while rishi sunak was prime minister. that's according to new analysis by the labour party . they say it's labour party. they say it's proof the government's focus on its rwanda plan isn't enough to solve the crisis. gb news understands four boats were intercepted today. the government insists its policies are working, with the number of crossings last year down by more than a third compared to a year earlier , and farmers in kent are

earlier, and farmers in kent are staging a protest at a tesco supermarket. furious at what they say are cheap, international imports . around 20 international imports. around 20 tractors are parked at tesco extra in whitfield, near dover . extra in whitfield, near dover. they're aiming to raise awareness of what they fear could be a threat to britain's food security. they say they can't compete with cheap foreign imports and unless something is done, british farmers won't be able to afford to the able to afford to feed the british public. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now it's back to . nana news .com/ alerts. now it's back to. nana coming up, shining light. >> dame andrea jenkins in our political spotlight . but next, political spotlight. but next, uri geller gives us an update from israel. don't go anywhere

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listening to gb news radio. welcome back. >> if you're just tuned in, welcome on board. i'm nana akua. it is fast approaching 36 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news we are the people's channel andifs news we are the people's channel and it's time now to get an update on the israel and hamas conflict , because we've got conflict, because we've got pro—palestine protesters marching through london once again today. they're calling for again today. they're calling for a ceasefire alongside things like from the river to the sea and all the other stuff that they have putting their they have been putting on their banners . but they have been putting on their banners. but my they have been putting on their banners . but my next guest will banners. but my next guest will have truck with all of that. have no truck with all of that. it is, of course, mr farage uri geller. from israel. geller. he's live from israel. uri, thank you so much for joining me . um, well, i mean, joining me. um, well, i mean, we've still got our protests going on here in the uk and they are still chanting all the wrong sort think sort of things. it's i think it's terrible. well well, let me clear a few things . clear a few things. >> this is very interesting . i >> this is very interesting. i look nana the british media is not giving you the full picture of what is going on in gaza. so i'm going to give you here on gb

news for the first time, information which is not being reported on other channels . information which is not being reported on other channels. nana i'm giving you the exclusive and listen to this . first of all, listen to this. first of all, for the first time, israel has now revealed the names of 12 unrwa staff who actually took part in the 7th of october massacre. unrwa now unrwa, remember, is the un, the united nafions remember, is the un, the united nations agency for palestinian refugees . we now know exactly refugees. we now know exactly who these people are . one is who these people are. one is a social worker , one is a clerk, social worker, one is a clerk, one is a math teacher , and one one is a math teacher, and one is even an elementary school teacher. and they're all terrorists who were active members of hamas. and this is just the tip of the iceberg . do just the tip of the iceberg. do you know, last year britain, your country . gave £16 million

your country. gave £16 million to unrwa, £16 million, which could have gone to the nhs , but could have gone to the nhs, but instead it went to terrorists. stop funding unrwa nana stop funding murderers. look let me show you something. this is uri. >> it's not obviously like they were 12 members of it. we would hope that the whole institution isn't riddled with this . but do isn't riddled with this. but do you know what i mean? so there were 12 people who were caught. >> okay, let me continue, please. this is, uh, the nasa hospital in gaza. now i want to reveal something else again. i'm giving you nana an exclusive on gb news. as you know, israeli special forces have gone into the nasa hospital in gaza because hamas terrorist are hiding there. they have already found mortar shells , grenades found mortar shells, grenades and other weapons. but that is not all they also found a box full of medication , which the

full of medication, which the israelis were waiting for. the hostages . the names of the hostages. the names of the israeli hostages were on those medication boxes . this appears medication boxes. this appears to be medical, in which a red cross agreed to get to the hostages, but instead it has been dumped. this is horrifying, because these are life saving medications. and then to finish nana, let me ask you . i'm asking nana, let me ask you. i'm asking you and your guests if terrorists massacred . 1200 terrorists massacred. 1200 british people and they, um, then they went to hide either in then they went to hide either in the chelsea or westminster hosphal the chelsea or westminster hospital. what would you do ? hospital. what would you do? what would you do? the british people would demand that the sas go into that hospital and kill every last terrorist. nana israel did not ask for this war, but we have to destroy hamas and we have to get the hostages back . that's a story. we have to get the hostages back .that's a story. hmm'hmm we have to get the hostages back . that's a story. hmm'hmm well, .that's a story. hmm'hmm well,

how are you coping with all of this and the people around you? >> because of course, the war feels like it's getting bigger in a way. and more people are getting involved in it. and now there heading there are more rockets heading towards north south, uh, israel as well . as well. >> yeah. no well, the people who live or live in the north have been evacuated. thousands thousands are evacuated. all the hotels in tel aviv are full with people who were taken away from their homes because missiles are hitting their homes. you know, the in the north, hezbollah has direct missiles , precise direct missiles, precise missiles. they aim them at civilian homes. missiles. they aim them at civilian homes . explosions. civilian homes. explosions. already people died because they didn't want to leave their home here in my museum, believe it or not, i had three tours today and people know what's going on. but life has to go on. um, i see, you know , i'm still wearing you know, i'm still wearing this. this is a free. the

hostages bring them home. there is a war going on right now as i speak to you. there's a war going in in gaza, and there is a war going on in the north. people are trying to somehow , people are trying to somehow, um, get a used to this situation. it's not easy, but this is life. when there is a war. um fortunately, and i've said it many times , civilians said it many times, civilians get killed and that's, i pray to god that this war will be over if they return the hostage to us. return them. the war will stop . stop. >> always good to talk to you. thank you so much for your thoughts. that's uri geller. he's live in tel aviv . this is he's live in tel aviv. this is gb news. it's fast approaching 42 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up in the next hour, my great british debate. i'm asking should nigel farage return to frontline politics, but still to come, the one and only dame andrea jenkins will give me her

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to work on saving their party. the is already lost, the country is already lost, labour won't be any labour winning won't be any different. the people of the uk need to brave and stop the need to be brave and stop the two horse race and vote reform . two horse race and vote reform. that's what she great idea that's what she says. great idea . james says a vote for reform is sadly , a vote for labour. is sadly, a vote for labour. i feel stuck, don't know who to feel stuck, i don't know who to vote for. it explains why turnout so low on climate turnout is so low on climate change. says a professor in change. rob says a professor in one of canada's leading universities carried out a three year survey of polar bears in alaska, canada and the north pole, which showed an increase in population. she then lost her position and funding for refusing to redact part of the report to align with their climate change policies. really, i'd love to know who she is. well, thank you for that. keep them coming. vaiews@gbnews.com you've just joined me. welcome. we are gb news. it's time now for this week's political spotlight and joining me to shine a light is dame andrea jenkins. uh andrea, thank you very much for joining jenkins. uh andrea, thank you very much forjoining me. i really appreciate you coming on to the show . i've got to start to the show. i've got to start with andrea. what did you make

of the fact i think it was predictable that labour would win . but what's reaction to win. but what's your reaction to the by—election defeats for the tory party >> i mean, i think it was to be expected . expected. >> i mean, it's been all recent by elections , hasn't it. um, in by elections, hasn't it. um, in the last 18 months and, um , and the last 18 months and, um, and we've seen the polling , which we've seen the polling, which isn't good for the party, but i think really we're at this crunch point now, nana i mean, if we look across the globe, even our european neighbours even at our european neighbours backyards, they're adjunct to the making a stand and they're actually standing up for real common sense. um, conservatism . common sense. um, conservatism. i think we're actually witnessing a backlash to globalisation and a return to the statehood . and i think that, the statehood. and i think that, um , voters feel disenfranchised um, voters feel disenfranchised at the moment with the two main parties, um, which is very, very sad because , um, you know, i sad because, um, you know, i love our party and i want to see us return , but i think we can us return, but i think we can only do that if we start being more conservative. >> um, because what do you make of richard tice as criticism of

it? that it was actually, um, well , it was a vote it? that it was actually, um, well, it was a vote for it? that it was actually, um, well , it was a vote for two well, it was a vote for two socialist parties. really the labour party and the conservative party because there's nothing conservative about anymore . about them anymore. >> i disagree with that. >> i mean, i disagree with that. um, although , i mean, i don't um, although, i mean, i don't think, um, we could ever be as bad as the labour party. um, however, i think that we, we should be a party of low taxes . should be a party of low taxes. i don't want to see any more of this . um, um, i don't want to see any more of this. um, um, two tier policing system. nana you know, we want to be catching the criminals . we to be catching the criminals. we don't want to see these mobs on the street who is intimidating people, including mps. the street who is intimidating people, including mps . um, just people, including mps. um, just anybody who's got a different view to try and intimidate and personally, i'd like to see us, um, ditch net zero. and to me , um, ditch net zero. and to me, as a conservative, we should be all about believing in the individual . all about believing in the individual. they making the choice how they want to heat their and cars to their homes and what cars to drive. their homes and what cars to dnve.so their homes and what cars to drive. so let's return to more conservative policies . and i conservative policies. and i think then we'll start think that then we'll start seeing an increase in the polls. >> um, i wanted to get your thoughts because spoke

thoughts on because i spoke about earlier. sadiq khan about it earlier. sadiq khan this week, it's announced that he spent £6.3 million on renaming the overground lines. uh, i mean, as me, as a voter, if you were somebody who follows politics all the time , i'm politics all the time, i'm astonished at how much he can get away with. i don't get it. i just don't understand. how is he managing to do all this and get away with it ? away with it? >> i agree, it's just ridiculous and what a waste of taxpayers money and we need to challenge this at every opportunity in our net. but it's also it shows you the whole institute how, um, they are rife with this wokeism. and we really need to fight back on this nana and, and i really pray to god that , um, sadiq pray to god that, um, sadiq doesn't get in in these elections . elections. >> yeah. because your candidate is incredibly quiet at the moment. suzanne hall. i'd love to hear her speaking out about this. i don't know why she isn't even the reform candidate , even the reform candidate, howard cox. i mean, where are they? nobody's really spoken much i think

much about this. and i think a lot of londoners and even people who don't live in london looking at this thinking, what a at this and thinking, what a shocking of money. at this and thinking, what a shockingcompletely. ioney. at this and thinking, what a shockingcompletely. iney. at this and thinking, what a shockingcompletely. i mean, um, >> yes, completely. i mean, um, people are finding it hard to heat their homes at the moment, so it shows you how out of touch khanis so it shows you how out of touch khan is that he wants to spend money and waste money like this. it's all virtual signalling, isn't it? >> yeah . what about your party? >> yeah. what about your party? because the thing is , the reason because the thing is, the reason why i think the labour party got aheadin why i think the labour party got ahead in that those elections was simply because there wasn't the turnout. i mean, i think it was over 33% something the turnout. i mean, i think it waturnoutver33% something the turnout. i mean, i think it waturnout the53% something the turnout. i mean, i think it waturnout the year something the turnout. i mean, i think it waturnout the year before thing the turnout. i mean, i think it waturnout the year before that. of turnout the year before that. it was the previous time, sorry, there was over a 65% turnout. what do you think that rishi can do to get people to get out there and vote and it's not good enough literally saying , oh, enough literally saying, oh, well, a vote for reform is a vote for the labour party because people just simply won't come out . come out. >> no, i agree with you. and i do think smaller parties have got the right to exist. we live in a democracy, don't we? so, um, and i let's face it, nana,

if we was more conservative, there wouldn't be these smaller parties who are, um, right up in the polls. so i mean, i've said before, um , that rishi is very before, um, that rishi is very sad for every conservative, none of us want to be here. i do think , unfortunately, rishi must think, unfortunately, rishi must go . i think that we need , um, think, unfortunately, rishi must go. i think that we need , um, a go. i think that we need, um, a fresh start. new leader , new fresh start. new leader, new conservative leader. i know all the critics will be saying, oh, here we go again. but what choice have we got? nana. i think we have a new leader who will connect to the public, and he'll bring out these true . he'll bring out these true. conservative policies where we're low taxes. i mean, i think he's trying his best. um, but i think that it's not cutting through voters. need to through to voters. so we need to find somebody who will and who will stand the will be strong. stand up to the woketo cut the net zero, or um, to cut the net zero, or i ditch personally also ditch it personally and also to, you get this country you know, get this country thriving again because, um, i'm proud country it's proud of our country and it's very to see some of the

very sad to see some of the things happening moment. things happening at the moment. >> we she goes, this is >> but if we she goes, this is another six weeks of the shenanigan that we had last time. literally, place time. literally, the place stalls and who would you , in stalls and who would you, in your view? would you say your view? who would you say should him? should replace him? >> no, i remember you can have you know, you have your you know, you can have your deputy prime minister can be deputy prime minister who can be holding while you that. holding fort while you do that. and probably , um, do and you could probably, um, do an a leadership election within an a leadership election within a month. um, so , so i mean, who a month. um, so, so i mean, who do i think? well i just i think the issue at the moment is, um , the issue at the moment is, um, there's lots of potential candidates on the, on the right of our party, but we because we haven't got the numbers and there's more one nation left of there's more one nation left of the party or mps. we need to unite behind one person. and so i think it's up to those potential leadership candidates to bang their heads together, get in a room and actually decide on which one of them when the time comes, is going to put themselves forward. so >> so who do you think then , um, >> so who do you think then, um, who do i think? >> i mean , i'm happy with pretty

>> i mean, i'm happy with pretty suella. i mean, i bring back boris, to be honest with you, he's still . yeah. i mean, um , he's still. yeah. i mean, um, i'd want him to clearly ditch a net zero stuff, but when i'm campaigning, um , he's still so campaigning, um, he's still so positive . strong response on the positive. strong response on the doorstep . i mean, even just doorstep. i mean, even just going into the supermarket last night with my little one, um, i was speaking to people on the checkout and. and they said they want boris back, so. yeah but i think it's also what happened to boris. how he was , um, hounded boris. how he was, um, hounded out really by by, um, our own mps . um, and let's face it, he mps. um, and let's face it, he was democratically elected . and was democratically elected. and it is a sad place to be in from where we had, you know , massive where we had, you know, massive majority in 2019 and was ahead in the polls . we won the in the polls. we won the hartlepool by—election to where we are now. so i think that, um, conservatives , you know, at the conservatives, you know, at the moment we're staring defeat in the face. but i'd say, you know what would our forefathers of the party, thatcher and

churchill , the party, thatcher and churchill, do? would they the party, thatcher and churchill , do? would they sit churchill, do? would they sit down and just prey on blind hope, or would they take action and try to save their party from the socialists that, um, our country , from the socialists, country, from the socialists, they would they would fight. and i think that's what we've got to do. >> well, i'm half with you on that jenkyns that one. dame andrea jenkyns really you. really nice to talk to you. thank much for taking really nice to talk to you. than out much for taking really nice to talk to you. than out to much for taking really nice to talk to you. than out to talchh for taking really nice to talk to you. than out to talk t01 for taking really nice to talk to you. than out to talk to me taking really nice to talk to you. than out to talk to me on:ing really nice to talk to you. than out to talk to me on your time out to talk to me on your saturday. bring saturday. she says, bring back boris. who boris. i'm sort of with her. who else got? well, else have they got? well, listen, , because listen, stay tuned, because coming up, i'll joined by my coming up, i'll be joined by my amazing lizzie cundy and amazing panel. lizzie cundy and also party adviser also former labour party adviser matthew also my monologue matthew lazo. also my monologue on prince harry, my goodness. look, it's what is it with this quy- look, it's what is it with this guy. listen. stay tuned. that's all coming up. but first let's get an update with your weather. this is . gb news looks like this is. gb news looks like things are heating up . things are heating up. >> boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news is . on gb news is. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. i'm craig snell looking ahead

for the rest of this weekend. we will see a band of heavy rain move across the country. it's all courtesy of these weather fronts. they will just gradually spread their way eastward, but with coming from with winds coming in from the southwest, going to be southwest, it is going to be a mild weekend for all of us. so this evening we can see the rain working way in from the working its way in from the west. heavy outbreaks of west. some heavy outbreaks of rain embedded in it. so we do have some warnings . in force have some warnings. in force across parts of england and wales, so there will be some fairly difficult driving conditions if you are travelling overnight but will conditions if you are travelling oveaiight but will conditions if you are travelling ovea mild but will conditions if you are travelling ovea mild one. but will conditions if you are travelling ovea mild one. temperatures be a mild one. temperatures for many double figures be a mild one. temperatures for many the double figures be a mild one. temperatures for many the south.iouble figures be a mild one. temperatures for many the south.ioublthese res across the south. and these temperatures we temperatures really are where we should the of should be during the course of the day, the night time. the day, not the night time. this a of this time of year. so a bit of a slow across southeast slow start across southeast england. still heavy rain england. still some heavy rain here, dry up here, but it should dry up towards for towards lunchtime and for most of be a brighter of us it will be a brighter day. the two. but the better day of the two. but there still be a few sherri there will still be a few sherri outbreaks of rain around, especially middle especially during the middle part but for all of part of the day. but for all of us, a mild one. temperatures in the south potentially reaching

15 or 16 degrees. having a look at monday, another spell of rain will move its way across the country. either side, there will be some drier and brighter moments, and again will be moments, and again it will be feeling fairly mild for the time of year. tuesday, wednesday again remaining fairly changeable further spells of rain, during the rain, especially during the middle of the week. but temperatures all of us temperatures for all of us staying figures day i >> -- >> that 5mm >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler sponsors of weather on gb news . on gb news. >> now good afternoon. this is gb news news online, on tv and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now still to come in my difficult conversation, i'll be speaking to danny crates . he's speaking to danny crates. he's got an incredible story. plus my great british debate. i'm asking should nigel farage return to mainline politics? there's loads more to come in the next hour. do not go anywhere. this is the gb news we are the people's

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know where his body is and they believe that it's being held by authorities so that they can cover tracks in russia, it cover their tracks in russia, it comes as president putin is facing increasing international condemnation. and here in the uk , crowds have been gathered outside russian embassy in outside the russian embassy in london and london laying tributes and protesting through the night. the kremlin, though, says that the west's reaction is unacceptable described it as unacceptable and described it as absolutely rabid. the ukraine president, vladimir zelenskyy, is among those who have laid blame on the russian leader , and blame on the russian leader, and earlier he addressed the munich security conference, calling putin who must be stopped putin a thug who must be stopped after the murder of alexei navalny . navalny. >> it's absurd to perceive putin as a supposedly legitimate head of a russian state, and he is a thug who maintains power through corruption and violence , coming corruption and violence, coming to his so—called inauguration, shaking his hand, considering

him an equal means to disdain the very nature of political power . power. >> well, staying at that munich security conference, president zelenskyy has also said there is a shortage of long—range weapons in ukraine, which is hampering the country's fight against putin's forces. >> he told leaders there that there's an urgent need for western support . western support. >> with the two year anniversary of russia's invasion approaching as wavers in the uk as support wavers in the uk among republicans , foreign among republicans, foreign secretary lord cameron and the labour leader sir keir starmer have said they will stand as one behind ukraine. >> and it comes as the uk and the eu push the us to pass a multi—billion dollar aid package to ukraine's defences i >> -- >> ten people have been arrested for a string of alleged offences as thousands of people have joined a pro—palestinian march in central london this afternoon i >> -- >> up to 250,000 people have been expected at that demonstration near the israeli embassy, parading through the central streets of the city,

around 1500 police officers from forces across the uk are on pubuc forces across the uk are on public order duties in the caphal public order duties in the capital, with those taking part warned to leave by 6:00 this evening. >> our reporter, will hollis, has been at that march. there >> there is a sea of palestinian flags in the capital city today for the ninth day of protests since those october the 7th attacks. >> now there are hundreds of thousands of people making their way down park lane next to hyde park, and they're heading in one direction and that's towards the israeli embassy . they're calling israeli embassy. they're calling with one voice for a ceasefire in the week that parliament will be voting for one. now what you'll also see is a lot of yellow jackets. the police here say that what is going on in the middle east, the conflict between israel and palestine, israel and hamas is having a profound and polarising effect on how they can police the capital city. >> well , that comes as scottish

>> well, that comes as scottish labour has backed calls for a ceasefire in gaza. >> that's in a show of unanimous support for leader anas sarwar call for an end to israel's conflict with the hamas terror group. the motion passed unopposed on the second day of the scottish labour conference and urged an end to rocket fire and urged an end to rocket fire and the unconditional release, they say, of hostages that were taken by hamas on october 7. it puts the party at odds with westminster colleagues, though with sir keir starmer stopping short of saying he wants to see a ceasefire . instead, he says a ceasefire. instead, he says that he wants to see a sustainable end to that war. a third of small boat arrivals since 2018 have taken place, while rishi sunak has been prime minister. that's according to new analysis by the labour party . that's after 52 people reportedly crossed the channel by small boats yesterday , by small boats yesterday, meaning there have been just over 38,500 arrivals since mr sunak became prime minister. labour says it's proof the government's focus on its rwanda plan isn't enough to solve the crisis, but the government

insists its policies are working . with the number of crossings last year down by more than a third compared to the previous yeah third compared to the previous year. in other news, exams for foreign dentists could be scrapped under new plans to boost the number of available appointments. it would mean dentists trained abroad would be able to start work in the nhs without a formal check on their quality of education. but the british dental association has dismissed the idea. they say it won't be enough to fix what they've called a leaky bucket. and finally, farmers in kent are staging a protest at a tesco supermarket. they're furious at what they say are cheap. international imports. around 20 tractors have been parked up at tesco extra in whitfield, near dover too. they say raise awareness of what they're fearing could be a threat to british food security. they've also said they can't compete with cheap foreign imports and unless something is done, british farmers won't be able to afford to feed the british pubuc afford to feed the british public for the latest stories,

you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or, of course, go to our website gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon . you're with >> good afternoon. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news on tv , online and on news on tv, online and on digital radio. so after his mad dash to see his father last week, prince harry predictably went on tv to talk about it. he gave his first interview to good morning america whilst apparently being filmed by a crew that were doing a documentary on the invictus games. he didn't disclose his father's diagnosis, but frankly, even the fact that he was on tv talking about it was concerning. no wonder they're keeping him at arms length. this is what he said. >> how did you get the news that the king was ill? >> i spoke to him and what did you next? >> i jumped on a plane and went to go and see him as soon as i could. >> how was that visit for you

emotionally ? emotionally? >> um, look, love i love my >> um, look, i love i love my family. the fact that i was, the fact that i was able to get on a plane and go and see him and spend time with him, i'm spend any time with him, i'm grateful for that. >> in the family can >> an illness in the family can have galvanising of have a galvanising or sort of reunified for family. reunified effect for a family. >> possible in this case? >> $- ? i'm sure mean, >> yeah, i'm sure i mean, you know, throughout all these know, i've throughout all these families, on families, i see it on a, on a day to day basis . day to day basis. >> um, you know, again, the strength unit strength of the family unit coming together, um , he also coming together, um, he also said that he loves his family , said that he loves his family, but then he said that he had his own family america. but then he said that he had his owrso mily america. but then he said that he had his owrso which america. but then he said that he had his owrso which family ca. but then he said that he had his owrso which family does he love? >> so which family does he love? i'm not buying it. this. this guy is so full of anger that even when prince philip was dying, which i suspect he would have known and his wife have known him and his wife meghan were oprah. well meghan were on oprah. well actually, it was pre—recorded actually, it was a pre—recorded interview , which sure they interview, which i'm sure they could delayed . but no, the could have delayed. but no, the late queen's last few years of life were marred with accusations of racism , which accusations of racism, which harry later backtracked on, claiming that they hadn't actually used the word so inadvertent , actually used the word so inadvertent, admitting to

gaslighting us all, he and his wife said nothing to quash the accusations , which were based on accusations, which were based on the things that he and meghan had said he tried to blame it on the british press, who he hates. an enemy has launched multiple actions against him and his wife, channelled their anger into documentaries, podcasts and books attacking his family in the uk and last week they launched the website sussex .com, using his title replacing archewell, which no one visited and using the royal crest in it. it claims that the prince is a humanitarian , and meghan is humanitarian, and meghan is apparently concerned with human rights. but surely you need empathy and compassion if you are trading on these as your skills , as this is just my view. skills, as this is just my view. but the sussexes stock is falling in the states and the only thing that makes them interesting is their proximity to the royal family harry has realised that he has bills to pay, realised that he has bills to pay, what with his numerous court actions and hypocritically flying from one place to another

via private jet. and now the king is ill. harry has even offered to muck in and take on official duties to help his father. yeah right. more like weezer is way back into the working royal family because he's realised what a mess he's made of it all. you'll need to run that by us. the taxpayers of this country . run that by us. the taxpayers of this country. first. harry run that by us. the taxpayers of this country . first. harry look, this country. first. harry look, i want to see reconciliation and love and joy . but i'm afraid love and joy. but i'm afraid meghan has yet to even speak to her father as far as we know. and harry didn't apparently even reach out to his brother whilst his dad might fall for it. i doubt william will be as soft . doubt william will be as soft. good luck with that, harry. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour . coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, should nigel farage return to frontline politics? the president of the the honorary president of the reform party is dropping more hints that could make such a hints that he could make such a move . after showing for

move. after a good showing for the party at those by elections this week . then, at 450, it's this week. then, at 450, it's royal roundup time. lady colin campbell will be live to react to that interview by prince harry. he's hinted that the king's cancer diagnosis could be the spark of reconciliation in the spark of reconciliation in the royal family. is he right? and then at 5:00, it's this week's difficult conversation . week's difficult conversation. amazing athlete danny crates will be live in the studio. the paralympian represented his country in 2000. in the in sydney and then 2004, in athens . sydney and then 2004, in athens. he'll be sharing his incredible story that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. gb views gb discussing. email gb views at gb news. or tweet me at . gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. all right. let's get started and welcome my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. and also former labour party adviser matthew le tsar matthew laza matthew laza.

>> i love it. you make me sound very glamorous, matthew. >> if a couple of minutes later, i'm sorry. madness out there. >> there's 250,000 people on the streets. >> it's crazy. we don't. it's fine. start fine. i'm going to start with you, lizzie cundy. fine. i'm going to start with youyeah,e cundy. fine. i'm going to start with youyeah, yeah,iy. fine. i'm going to start with youyeah, yeah, well, you >> yeah, yeah, well, there you go. give harry 30 minutes go. you give harry 30 minutes and still zip it, can and he still can't zip it, can he? was i last week he? yeah. there was i last week actually thinking was doing actually thinking he was doing the right thing. i actually praised for getting on that praised him for getting on that plane . little know, he had plane. little did i know, he had a hidden agenda. i should have known . yeah. um, yeah. he known better. yeah. um, yeah. he only the website, but it's only had the website, but it's set this interview with. good set up this interview with. good morning america. now, the first thing you should do . look, i'm thing you should do. look, i'm no pr expert , but you say to the no pr expert, but you say to the broadcasters, right out, you're not mentioning my father in this interview. you're not mentioning the cancer diagnosis, not mentioning the royal family. yes. i'll talk about the charity work, invictus games. that's what it's all about. but no, he couldn't help himself because you know why? he knows that's his only way in to make money and let him be popular again. but if he hadn't mentioned it, people might might say, oh,

well, he's not mentioned it. >> he could at least say one thing about it and blah blah blah. what i mean? blah. do you know what i mean? so there's one thing so because there's one thing that did, he didn't mention that he did, he didn't mention it when to that glitzy it when he went to that glitzy event, event that he event, that z—list event that he went didn't mention event, that z—list event that he werk didn't mention event, that z—list event that he werk at didn't mention event, that z—list event that he werk at all. didn't mention event, that z—list event that he werk at all. andiidn't mention event, that z—list event that he werk at all. and everyoneition the k at all. and everyone criticised him for not mentioning criticised him for not mentiorbut didn't. >> no, but he didn't. he's already his chance. already had his chance. he's been low awards been to, um, low rent awards ceremonies. he could have said, you know, i wish my father well or something of those terms like, know, prince william like, you know, prince william did when he at the event, did when he was at the event, but , he go into detail but no, he has to go into detail and he can't help himself. he could have done this so differently. and with their relationships raw at the relationships so raw at the minute, is it any wonder that prince william is like, stay well away from me? cannot well away from me? you cannot tell prince harry and meghan anything thing. and the bit abouti anything thing. and the bit about i love my family. i love my family . and that's why you my family. and that's why you let the, you know , your let the, you know, your grandmother die thinking that there was a possible racist in this family . that's why you did this family. that's why you did the book. spare that's why you let your wife go on oprah winfrey. please give a break. winfrey. please give me a break. well even sussex which

well even sussex com, which actually came out after heard actually came out after he heard about the diagnosis. >> you think even there he could perhaps delay that a bit? perhaps just delay that a bit? >> matthew laza, i feel a bit sorry for all the people who are thinking holiday in thinking of a holiday in brighton sussex. brighton who go to sussex. >> thinking they're >> com thinking that they're going to find out about the fine county now county of sussex, and now they're going to be confronted with flannel about with all this flannel about harry with all this flannel about hareven you matthew. >> even you matthew. >> even you matthew. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> um so look, mean, i >> crikey. um so look, i mean, i think very difficult, think it is very difficult, as you when he's asked you say, nana, when he's asked about about about it and not asked about it, the is i'm now the problem i have is i'm now cynical about the very cynical just about the very amount of media he's doing. >> say >> you know, if you say everything's invictus everything's for the invictus games, he we can't games, then he thinks we can't criticise tries to criticise him and he tries to use a shield to keep him use it as a shield to keep him away things. away from things. >> the irony and nay, >> i mean, the irony and nay, the flipping cheek of complaining constantly about media then being media harassment and then being constantly followed around by usually but tv crews usually not one but two tv crews is pretty astonishing. and then of course, the top of top it all. now, he's told us that we will come back and do a bit of work. >> e’- e’— 9 stand in for dad, um, >> it will stand in for dad, um, if we want to do which i think really does take the biscuit. if we want to do which i think reaiso does take the biscuit. if we want to do which i think reaiso i)es take the biscuit.

if we want to do which i think reaiso i mean,e the biscuit. if we want to do which i think reaiso i mean, look, biscuit. if we want to do which i think reaiso i mean, look, you jit. if we want to do which i think reaiso i mean, look, you know, >> so i mean, look, you know, some criticism of them is some of the criticism of them is harsh, need to harsh, but they just need to find a and find find a get a life and find something to do. >> the problem is he's got literally nothing do. literally nothing to do. >> were a fan, though, >> well, were you a fan, though, at the beginning? >> at the beginning >> oh, i mean, at the beginning we mean, you we we were i mean, you know, we even was even when everyone was criticising like, criticising them, i was like, when of. when did you sort of. >> think think i think >> so i think i think i think i think the endless court case is again the obsession of the media, which is almost unhinged again the obsession of the mediehe'sich is almost unhinged again the obsession of the mediehe'sich ialmost;t unhinged again the obsession of the mediehe'sich ialmost ianhinged when he's not almost is unhinged. was what unhinged. it was really what tipped me over the edge. um, you know, to be, you know, know, i want to be, you know, she needs to go to work as know, i want to be, you know, sheactress. to go to work as know, i want to be, you know, sheactress. hejo to work as know, i want to be, you know, sheactress. he needs to work as know, i want to be, you know, sheactress. he needs tcgo3rk as know, i want to be, you know, sheactress. he needs tcgo and s an actress. he needs to go and find or something to find a farm or something to do, which kind posh which is what kind of posh people in, uh, when they people do in, uh, when they leave the army. people do in, uh, when they lea'iz the army. people do in, uh, when they lea'i mean, 'my. and keep >> i mean, you know, and keep his work up on side, his charity work up on the side, but find purpose but they need to find purpose and relaunching and frankly, just relaunching themselves it? >> not forget they've done >> let's not forget they've done nothing moan about royal nothing but moan about the royal family. she said even wanted nothing but moan about the royal family. her said even wanted nothing but moan about the royal family. her owni even wanted nothing but moan about the royal family. her own life even wanted nothing but moan about the royal family. her own life at len wanted nothing but moan about the royal family. her own life at one wanted to take her own life at one stage. bear , you stage. they can't bear, you know, a sad, you know how know, it's a sad, you know how she of kate and the rest she thought of kate and the rest of it. so why do they want to be unked of it. so why do they want to be linked so bad? linked with it so bad? >> because otherwise >> well, because otherwise they'd have nothing to talk about. >> his interview about the money. >> t“ p- p" >> and i have to say on their website, when i read it, i couldn't help but have a little

giggle because giggle to myself, because recollections on what recollections may vary on what and on how they and everything on how they explain i mean, explain themselves. i mean, she's all humanitarian and she's like all humanitarian and all this compassionate person . all this compassionate person. on where she showed none to her own father. well, that's the thing. certainly didn't to kate. >> anyone else you've come to it. and that's the point. now, harry has done this dash to see his that we're his dad and saying that we're a family should all get family and we should all get together. meg ? together. what about meg? because i'm confused now . is it because i'm confused now. is it just the royal family that they can get together with? and can get back together with? and also, actually divide also, harry did actually divide the and say his family, the two and say his family, which because it's just which is weird because it's just different family. >> wm e"- family. >> be one family, >> it's all be one family, shouldn't yeah, that's shouldn't it? yeah, that's what we all have. >> in—laws and our >> we have our in—laws and our aunts. and know what? >> we have our in—laws and our auntrmight know what? >> we have our in—laws and our auntrmight see know what? >> we have our in—laws and our auntrmight see that/ what? >> we have our in—laws and our auntrmight see that she's ? >> i might see that she's crawling her way back in. she's being photographed in crawling her way back in. she's beirvictor photographed in crawling her way back in. she's beirvictor gao photographed in crawling her way back in. she's beirvictor gao photshe phed in crawling her way back in. she's beirvictor gao photshe wantsn the victor gao game. she wants to of it. she's there to be part of it. she's there smiling chatting smiling and chatting to everyone. it's everyone. she knows. it's her only back is to be close to only way back is to be close to the royal family again. sadly, our own family though, because that's what i'm asking . that's what i'm asking. >> because can't. well, she >> because you can't. well, she seems abandoned. you seems to be abandoned. him. you can't and them can't do that and leave them thrown just thrown in the bin and then just carry because people will

carry on because people will still you can't be still look and say, you can't be genuine you're still not talking. >> i think people would be very cynical she suddenly goes cynical if now she suddenly goes to visit her father. after all, all this time when he's had, i think, two heart attacks and a stroke and she hasn't bothered at all. um, i mean, as far as we know , as far as we know, that's know, as far as we know, that's pretty extreme, isn't it? >> because even if we have people family you don't >> because even if we have peo on family you don't >> because even if we have peo on with family you don't >> because even if we have peo on with infamily you don't >> because even if we have peo on with in times you don't >> because even if we have peo on with in times ofu don't >> because even if we have peo on with in times of crisis,t get on with in times of crisis, we least reach out to we tend to at least reach out to them, we entirely them, even if we don't entirely reconcile. just reconcile. but yeah, i just think, mean, i want think, i mean, look, i want them, i want not them, you know, i want to not have dislike them, but they have to dislike them, but they need to they need to get themselvesto and stop something to do and just stop this whinging, stop whingeing. >> that's it. >> elm— >> that's it. >> what moaning. >> that's it. >> what mo cynical in >> what was very cynical in that, interview with that, in that interview with good when harry good morning america, when harry said, you said, yeah, illness brings you together. well well how together. well that's well how about he say that about he not say that to his wife father? well, wife with her own father? well, he tell his wife that he needs to tell his wife that as well. >> don't understand >> i don't understand it. but we all because it all keep watching it because it is car crash. it's is exclamation car crash. it's a sussex you can't help sussex show and you can't help it. but the bottom is, it. but the bottom line is, look, genuine , then look, if you're genuine, then you up with your you will make up with your father. time to get father. maybe it's time to get rid titles. father. maybe it's time to get rid maybetitles. father. maybe it's time to get rid maybe it's s. to them

>> maybe it's time to strip them of sussex. i think sussex dot com go back to being website i >>i -- >> i think m- m— >> i think that's what william would why they would do. that's why they shouldn't royal crest. >> me tell you, @ me tell you, >> let me tell you, they're not working members. >> let me tell you, they're not worwell members. >> let me tell you, they're not worwell membeit's just coming >> well listen, it's just coming up to 17 minutes after 4:00. this news online this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, it's roundup time. lady it's royal roundup time. lady colin campbell will be giving us the latest from behind the palace walls on the menu . her palace walls on the menu. her reaction to prince harry's latest speculation about a potential return to a royal family. up next, it's time family. but up next, it's time for the great british debate. this hour . and i'm asking, this hour. and i'm asking, should nigel return should nigel farage return to frontline british politics? send me thoughts me your thoughts gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. tell me what you think your vote. think and cast your vote. there's pull up right now on there's a pull up right now on twitter asking that very question. cast your now

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news on tv, online and on digital radio. if you're just join me. where have you been? i'm nana akua. it's time now for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should nigel farage return to frontline politics while thursday night was undoubtedly a huge triumph for labour as the party overturned two large conservative majorities to win the wellingborough and kingswood by elections, there was also a strong showing from reform uk, who finished a clear third in both of those seats, and amongst those to hail the party's performance was gb news presenter and reform uk's honorary president nigel farage, who said that thursday was the day the party came of age. he also dropped the biggest hint yet that he will return to frontline politics to lead reform uk's general election campaign , with polling campaign, with polling suggesting that the party would receive a significant boost if the poll in the polls. if he were to do so, he's he is even facing calls from some activists to run for parliament again,

possibly in clacton in essex, where polling suggests that he would win so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should nigel farage return to frontline politics? well, me to discuss well, joining me to discuss former labour minister for europe macshane, political europe denis macshane, political commentator kaminski and commentator latif kaminski and conor tomlinson and reform uk's parliamentary candidate for wellingborough, ben habib . wellingborough, ben habib. right. well, ben habib, i'm going to start you , ben going to start with you, ben habib. what do you think? >> well, just on the election, by the way, don't think it was by the way, i don't think it was a win for labour for a massive win for labour for labour's vote in terms of number of votes cast for labour. >> didn't really go from the >> didn't really go up from the general election . admittedly, general election. admittedly, the was lower , so the turnout was lower, so proportionally they got a higher vote, obviously. but the real story from the two stories from the by elections . the by elections. >> the first is that the conservative vote absolutely collapsed it, a complete reversal of the 2019 support that the country gave boris johnson a recognition in the country that the conservative government has completely failed , and an endorsement of

basically the values that promised . basically the values that promised. boris promised to deliver but didn't. >> um, for reform uk. >> um, for reform uk. >> you know where small c conservative, lower taxation, lower regulation . lower regulation. >> oh, we've lost you, ben . >> oh, we've lost you, ben. you've gone all you've frozen on us. you've frozen on us, ben. well, i hope you come back to you because i was listening to all that. uh, conor tomlinson . all that. uh, conor tomlinson. >> i think that nigel >> yeah, i think that nigel farage is probably the most eligible candidate to take over our deracinated political circumstances following the next election. i mean, both major parties are promising the same brand of tepid managerial neoliberalism, just with a slightly different coat of paint on the party and nigel farage has got all the big calls right from brexit to mass migration to covid to the like and the interesting thing that's happening moment that not happening at the moment that not a have put their a lot of people have put their finger popcom finger on, is liz truss's popcom announcement . now, most people announcement. now, most people saw thought, oh blimey, saw it and thought, oh blimey, we've got the five we've already got the five families that in fighting. we've already got the five famili

be joining it. however however, if party is cleared out if the tory party is cleared out at the next election , including at the next election, including lots of cabinet ministers like gillian keegan and penny morton and jeremy hunt, the old cameroonian are gone, cameroonian vanguard are gone, but liz truss remains . liz truss but liz truss remains. liz truss is the most likely person with the vendetta against the existing party, because they staged made her the staged a coup and made her the shortest prime minister shortest sitting prime minister in . if anyone's to in history. if anyone's going to allow to farage allow nigel to farage cannibalise the conservative party and capture it and actually drag it to the right, it's liz truss. so it's going to be liz truss. so i wouldn't be shocked if nigel takes offer and takes up her offer and assimilates a lot of the successful reform uk candidates into whatever liz wants to create to stop michael gove steering the tory party again . steering the tory party again. >> no. do you think so, connor ? >> no. do you think so, connor? let's go back to ben habib. we've back now. ben, uh, we've got ben back now. ben, uh, you carry what you were you carry on with what you were saying. transfixed saying. because i was transfixed with . with it. >> yeah, so i can't. i don't know where i dropped off, but i think big over the think the big victory over the last couple of by elections has been uk , you know, been for reform uk, you know, which this policies which championed this policies that boris johnson effectively promised the country but then failed to deliver for small c

conservatism , lower taxes, conservatism, lower taxes, deregulation , genuinely ejecting deregulation, genuinely ejecting the eu from the united kingdom, british interests firsts closing our borders down to illegal migration, dramatically reducing migration, dramatically reducing migration . migration. >> these are all policies for reform uk and those are the policies to which the electorate in the last couple of days positively responded. >> wasn't an outstanding vote >> it wasn't an outstanding vote for labour. labour came through merely because it got what it normally gets . it was the normally gets. it was the conservative vote that sent the message and reform uk is on the ascendancy. reform uk is now, as nigel said, come of age. we have established ourselves not just in the pollings but actually in the electorate where we're delivering. in fact, wellingborough and wellingborough and wellingborough , we got more than wellingborough, we got more than what the national polls were indicating we would get. so yeah, we're feeling very, very confident and we've done all of this. i know the debates about nigel. we've done all of this without nigel as part of the

party. of course, there's a soft support from nigel. but one thing i say to people is, however great nigel is, however far tastic he is as a politician for a genuine political movement to sustain itself , it for a genuine political movement to sustain itself, it has to have breadth, and it has to have depth. it's got to go beyond one person. so i'm really encouraged beyond one person. >> you have to bring in denis macshane. hold on a second. denis macshane, because he's shaking his head as you're saying doing all saying things. he's doing all sorts of facial expressions can't shaking sorts of facial expressions can't at shaking sorts of facial expressions can't at i'm shaking sorts of facial expressions can't at i'm saying. head at what i'm saying. >> impossible. >> impossible. >> going on? let's find >> what's going on? let's find out. he saying? denis out. what's he saying? denis macshane simply , macshane well, very simply, first of all, big congratulations to ben. >> we've debated often in these studios. you've been out there on the doorstep, you found out what . what it's like. >> and nine ten voters in >> and nine out of ten voters in the two constituent masses didn't reform party. didn't go for your reform party. they didn't go for the conservative party, which has dragged britain to the right, especially in the last few years with disastrous consequences for health, for policing, for us armed services , for waiting

armed services, for waiting times, for operations. >> unless you're a monarch , >> unless you're a monarch, we're in a desperate state as a nafion we're in a desperate state as a nation and people, i think are showing again and again they want sunak to go. >> and i just gently i was asked to talk about nigel. >> let me make it clear. i like nigel. >> he's been kind to me when i was in trouble. i like him, was in some trouble. i like him, i him, i enjoy his i admire him, i enjoy his wonderful sort of, uh, you know, comic opera appearances at the european parliament or in question time. >> but at the end of the day, the british people have been given chance. given the chance. >> seven times to elect him to parliament, and they've just said no , we love you. said no, we love you. >> as you know, big cheese i'm a celebrity get me out of the jungle. >> but deciding our taxes, how our kids are treated , our road our kids are treated, our road policies, our defence, policing, security , health policies. security, health policies. sorry, nige . sorry, nige. >> you entertain us and let's have, if you like, boring . if have, if you like, boring. if you like tepid, choose whatever adjective you want. but sensible, politic ones who understand because they're there all the time in their

constituencies. >> you said you like because he's helped you. now. i would stop there if i were you. let us. yeah. >> i think i do agree with a lot of that. like nigel farage has had these seven opportunities, whereas right now he's got this platform. >> he's got this influence on his gb news shows. and a lot of this political gain is around influence . influence. >> i mean, just last year, the new statesman named him as the most influential person the most influential person on the right at the moment. you know, this is a man who's never actually even been in politics. and understand. i don't and i don't understand. i don't believe he should latch his sort of , so to speak, to a of boat, so to speak, to a political party which even going by the most positive polls at the moment, might not even win a seat at the next election . seat at the next election. >> all right. well, listen, thank you for your thoughts. all right. so i'm going to ask you all one at a time, whether you think nigel farage should return all one at a time, whether you thifrontline farage should return all one at a time, whether you thifrontline politics. hould return all one at a time, whether you thifrontline politics. denis return to frontline politics. denis macshane, nigel farage, macshane, should nigel farage, for of nigel? for the sake of nigel? >> . >> no. >> no. >> really? no. so let us brumowski should he return? no

no, really. connor tomlinson, should nigel farage return ? should nigel farage return? >> whether you like it or not, he will. >> yeah. you think it'd be too tempting not to you . tempting not to you. >> you think? yeah. he'll he'll he'll snap up something. >> something he'll snap up something. reform or conservative. do you think he'll he's likely to go to conservatives. i think he'll allow reform to cannibalise the conservative infrastructure. okay. and ben habib, should he return yes no ? return yes or no? >> nigel is already in politics. he never left it. the fact that we're having this debate proves it . but as far we're having this debate proves it. but as far as we're having this debate proves it . but as far as reform, we're having this debate proves it. but as far as reform, uk is concerned, we're going to succeed with or without nigel. we'd love to have nigel actively in frontline politics with us, but we are going to succeed. we will break the first past the post and we're going to post system and we're going to do for the long do it. we're here for the long terme. doing any deals do it. we're here for the long term any doing any deals do it. we're here for the long term any politicalioing any deals do it. we're here for the long term any political podcast. deals with any political podcast. >> ben, as much as so, so, so should nigel return to frontline politics. so that's the front of it all. he's behind it quietly. he's he's making moves and shapes, but he's not at the front. final you. front. yes or no. final to you. that's it.

>> that's a that's decision >> that's a that's a decision for him. >> that's a that's a decision for right. okay well, listen, >> right. okay well, listen, thank so much. to you, thank you so much. uh, to you, uh, former denis macshane, former labour minister for europe . also let us brzezinski europe. also let us brzezinski political commentator. conor tomlinson, commentator tomlinson, political commentator . and ben habib, parliamentary candidate and candidate for wellingborough and reform you so much reform uk. thank you so much for your thoughts. right. gb your thoughts. right. this is gb views tv, online and on views on tv, online and on digital radio. coming we'll digital radio. coming up, we'll continue the great british continue with the great british debate this hour. asking debate this hour. i'm asking should return should nigel farage return to frontline politics? hear frontline politics? we'll hear the panel matthew the thoughts of my panel matthew laza cundy still to laza and lizzie cundy still to come. difficult conversation . come. my difficult conversation. an amazing danny crates an amazing athlete. danny crates with his story. but first, let's get your news headlines get your latest news headlines with . with sam francis. >> nana, thank you very much. it's just gone half past four. and we start with the latest developments following alexei navalny's you will have navalny's death. you will have heard about in the last day or so. his mother has now been told by russian officials that her son was struck down by what they've called southern death syndrome . it comes as his team

syndrome. it comes as his team say they don't know where his body accused body is, and they've accused russian trying to russian authorities of trying to cover their tracks. meanwhile, here in the uk, crowds have been gathered outside the russian embassy london laying embassy in london laying tributes and protesting through the night. kremlin has said the night. the kremlin has said that reaction that the west's reaction is unacceptable , and they've unacceptable, and they've described it as absolutely rabid. the ukrainian president, vladimir zelenskyy, is among those who've laid blame at russian leaders . those who've laid blame at russian leaders. he those who've laid blame at russian leaders . he told the russian leaders. he told the munich conference munich security conference earlier that putin is a thug who must be stopped . ten people have must be stopped. ten people have been arrested for a string of alleged offences as thousands have joined a pro—palestinian. demonstrators in central london this afternoon . up to 250,000 this afternoon. up to 250,000 people were expected to take part in today's demonstration near the israeli embassy around 1500 police officers from forces across the uk are on public order duties, with those taking part in demonstrations warned to leave by 6:00 this evening . leave by 6:00 this evening. meanwhile, scottish labour have backed calls for a ceasefire in

gaza in a show of unanimous support for leader anas sarwar. it puts the party at odds, though, with westminster colleagues, with sir keir starmer stopping short of calling a ceasefire . he says calling for a ceasefire. he says instead that he wants a sustainable end to the war and exams for foreign dentists could be scrapped under new plans to boost the number of available appointments. it would mean dentists trained abroad would be able to start work in the nhs without a formal check on the quality of their education. but the british dental association has dismissed the idea. they say it won't be enough to fix what it won't be enough to fix what it calls a leaky bucket . for the it calls a leaky bucket. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. common alerts . go to gb news. common alerts. >> thank you sam. coming up, royal roundup time. lady colin campbell will give us the latest from what's going on behind the palace walls. but up next, we'll

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show. >> is just gone 36 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. don't forget you can stream the show live on youtube. i'm nana akua and lots of you have been getting in touch already. i've been asking, what do you think whether nigel should says what do you think whether nigel shoulyfarage says what do you think whether nigel shoulyfarage hasn't says what do you think whether nigel shoulyfarage hasn't the; nigel farage hasn't got the bottle an all bottle to stand as an mp. all he's fit for is criticising everybody else. really and david says, nana, i've only voted says, hi nana, i've only voted once the last 15 years and once in the last 15 years and that was for brexit. nigel stands for reform uk. i will definitely vote this time. keep them time them coming because it's time now british now for the great british debate. hour. i'm debate. this hour. and i'm asking nigel farage asking should nigel farage return frontline politics? return to frontline politics? thursday night was undoubtedly return to frontline politics? thurstriumpht was undoubtedly return to frontline politics? thurstriumph .was undoubtedly return to frontline politics? thurstriumph . labourdoubtedly return to frontline politics? thurstriumph . labour they:edly huge triumph. labour they overturned two large conservative majorities , conservative majorities, wellingborough and kingswood, in the by elections. there was also a strong showing for reform uk, who finished third in both

places , and amongst those they places, and amongst those they hailed the performance was presenter and reform uk's honorary president nigel farage, who said on thursday that thursday was the day the party came of age. he also dropped a big hint that he may well return to line politics. so it's to front line politics. so it's time for the great british debate. this ask. i'm asking do you think he should? so joining me to discuss the fabulous lily cundy and also matthew lazor, i had to look at you and try and remember your name . matthew remember your name. matthew laza. so you forget me. laza. oh, so you forget me. >> matthew laza . >> matthew laza. >> matthew laza. >> i like i've got >> i feel like i've got something the back of something living in the back of my head. i didn't manage, i didn't of didn't manage to sort of straighten couldn't straighten it down. i couldn't get it. anyway. starting straighten it down. i couldn't get something y. starting straighten it down. i couldn't get something y. need�*ting straighten it down. i couldn't get something y. need t01g straighten it down. i couldn't get something y. need to worry about. >> sadly , i wish, i wish it was. >> i can take this off and put it you . it on you. >> i think it might. we might get um so should nigel get letters. um so should nigel come back? >> i think it's look, i think the difficulty for reform is because of our electoral system is, know, nigel had ukip in is, you know, nigel had ukip in the election i was , the 2015 election when i was, uh, at the heart of the labour campaign . and they did really

campaign. and they did really well. they got think maybe well. they got 13. i think maybe it more 14% the vote, but it was more 14% of the vote, but they any seats beyond they didn't win any seats beyond they didn't win any seats beyond the they already had the ones that they already had from because from the tory defectors because of our electoral system of the way our electoral system works. that's nigel's works. so i think that's nigel's frustration know, frustration is that, you know, how you how do break how do you how do you break through? he may well through? and i think he may well be powder dry for be keeping his powder dry for when the tories, because the obvious is, is, is, obvious thing to do is, is, is, is to make a move to take over the tory and basically the tory party and basically merge is what merge the two, which is what happened when canadian happened when the canadian tories were wiped out. they merged that merged with a party that was similar and then similar to reform. so and then they came back over the next few years. i think what years. so that's i think what the obviously he the strategy is obviously he would difference. would make a big difference. he's personality . anybody he's a huge personality. anybody who on who comes on this show, on nigel's people, who comes on this show, on nige go, people, who comes on this show, on nige go, oh, people, who comes on this show, on nige go, oh, nigel people, who comes on this show, on nige go, oh, nigel they)ple, who comes on this show, on nige go, oh, nigel they go 3, they go, oh, nigel and they go on and he just charms them. so whether disagree him, on and he just charms them. so whetazr disagree him, on and he just charms them. so wheta very disagree him, on and he just charms them. so wheta very charming, him, on and he just charms them. so wheta very charming, very him, he's a very charming, very personable therefore personable and therefore he's a big that in the >> well, he did that in the jungle cundy well jungle lizzie cundy yeah well actually like say jungle lizzie cundy yeah well actu been like say jungle lizzie cundy yeah well actu been speakinge say jungle lizzie cundy yeah well actu been speaking with say jungle lizzie cundy yeah well actubeen speaking with nigel i've been speaking with nigel this morning and. >> yeah. and i'd like to inform you, there is no way you, matthew, there is no way under any certain terms , he will under any certain terms, he will ever joining forces with the ever be joining forces with the tory party and he is totally let

down by them. from 14 years of lies . and he just said, you lies. and he just said, you know, the big state, the high tax , the record, immigration and tax, the record, immigration and all the waffle. no action from the tory party. and he feels very let down. don't forget he opened the way for boris, you know, rid theresa may know, got rid of theresa may brexit everything that he brexit everything else that he has done. um and for me i actually said our country needs you, nigel. we need nigel farage back in frontline politics. >> so what did he say? >> so what did he say? >> but what about. yeah. so go on and say what he said. no. and he and he he considering it. he and he he is considering it. >> have to realise being >> but you have to realise being in frontline politics, it takes your whole life . he does. your whole life. he does. >> and but he was at the pop con, uh, conference. so if he thought that much, you know about conservativism and everything else, why was he there? >> well, because he has to be there. nana he has one of the best shows on jubilee news, and he should be there , but he is he should be there, but he is totally disillusioned , as am i totally disillusioned, as am i and many others with the

conservative party. the conservative party. the conservative party. the conservative party are no longer conservative. are they? are the liberal democrats. they're this woke, nonsensical, uh, party that, you know, i don't recognise anymore, to be fair to it, there are well, five is it six? >> so there's five families. there was a six. >> oh there's always i think there's at least there is there's a six at least there is there's a six at least there is the . the erg. >> pi e are some very >> and there are some very conservative there. >> and there are some very consfor ative there. >> and there are some very consforative reason there. >> and there are some very consforative reason orthere. >> and there are some very consforative reason or other and but for some reason or other and nobody wants to listen to them. >> what we've seen with >> but what we've seen with these elections, with low these by elections, with the low turnout, in the turnout, people are in the political wilderness. they don't know who vote for, and they know who to vote for, and they actually want keir starmer actually don't want keir starmer ehhen actually don't want keir starmer either. starmer has the either. keir starmer has the decisive . decisive skills. >> he did win the election. >> he did win the election. >> you did win the by—election decisive. but it wasn't because of keir starmer. people came out to vote, wasn't because of keir starmer's policies, because matthew, got any. it's matthew, he hasn't got any. it's got lots. it was because of the conservatives incompetence actually, helps. actually, that helps. >> think people are i >> but i think people are i think happening is, is think what's happening is, is that, country that, you know, there's country as a is absolutely mad at that, you know, there's country as (tories. is absolutely mad at that, you know, there's country as (tories. is ayes,jtely mad at that, you know, there's country as (tories. is ayes, somenad at that, you know, there's country as (tories. is ayes, some ofd at the tories. and yes, some of that going reform. that is going to reform. the truth matter it's very truth of the matter is it's very easy.i truth of the matter is it's very

easy. i think sometimes people to everybody to think that everybody who votes not they're mean, to think that everybody who w lot not they're mean, to think that everybody who w lot of not they're mean, to think that everybody who w lot of people y're mean, to think that everybody who w lot of people y're watchiean, to think that everybody who w lot of people y're watch gb|, a lot of people who watch gb news who say hello to news who say who say hello to me, know, say hello, we see me, you know, say hello, we see you and they say, you on the telly and they say, i was labour all life. know was labour all my life. i know you were labour man, but i'm you were a labour man, but i'm going through reform, particularly because of immigration. particularly because of imnknow,yn. particularly because of imnknow, and that's fair you know, and that's to be fair to nigel he attracts to nigel because he attracts people who he is and he's got it all.and charismatic, as you >> and he is charismatic, as you said, on show said, people go on his show and not him and they not sure they like him and they come they do like come off and they do like him. and showed in the jungle and he showed that in the jungle as like him. and he showed that in the jungle as the like him. and he showed that in the jungle as the thing like him. and he showed that in the jungle as the thing with like him. and he showed that in the jungle as the thing with keir;e him. but the thing with keir starmer is has the decisive skills of is he has the decisive skills of homer simpson. um, maybe politically they politically very hard. no they they are doing well politically, winning the by elections . but on winning the by elections. but on the government they can't make decisions and even look at what happenedin decisions and even look at what happened in rochdale. he dragged his feet and they had the tape . his feet and they had the tape. according to the times today, they had that tape his they had that tape of his remarks they didn't even remarks and they didn't even listen to it. so what do you matthew novi sad so look, i mean, think, i think he has mean, i think, i think he has shown in changing shown decisively in changing in changing party. changing the party. >> that change protest >> yes. and that change protest continues. so that's why today's

at the munich security conference underlying how committed we are to nato. yes, we've the party. >> still. anti—semitism is still there, you what there, though, you know what i mean? but listen, show is mean? but listen, this show is nothing and your mean? but listen, this show is nothinylet's and your mean? but listen, this show is nothinylet's welcomeind your mean? but listen, this show is nothinylet's welcome ouryour mean? but listen, this show is nothinylet's welcome our great views. let's welcome our great british opportunity views. let's welcome our great britision opportunity views. let's welcome our great britision the opportunity views. let's welcome our great britision the show opportunity views. let's welcome our great britision the show and)ortunity views. let's welcome our great britision the show and tellinity views. let's welcome our great britision the show and tell usy to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics that discussing today. what they think about the topics that traveliiscussing today. what they think about the topics that traveliiscustorg today. what they think about the topics that traveliiscustorg todayi let's travel over to bristol. i hope the map . there hope we've got the map. there was what that's not that's not, that's not lee harris, that's lady c, lady c, lady c will be here in a bit. let's travel over to realise that there's no map and we've gone to lady c maybe where we'll get these people from. maybe they were up late for the by—election. >> they were up late for the by—election. >> all right, let's go to lee harris. and he's he's there in bristol. he is, of course, a great british voice. >> great. legend. >> he's great. he's a legend. >> he's great. he's a legend. >> absolute legend. >> absolute legend. >> lee. yeah. >> lee. yeah. >> i like him because he >> and i like him because he usually agrees with what i've said. >> and sometimes he says that you little of you know i talk a little bit of sense. so you know it's nice that agrees me that somebody agrees with me very that somebody agrees with me verexactly. though. >> exactly. not today though. >> exactly. not today though. >> never got anything. >> well, let's see some >> well, let's see what some of you let's do you have been saying. let's do some emails because

some of these emails because mark says this about nigel. mark says an extremely says nigel runs an extremely successful campaign, has seen by the think nigel the brexit. so i think nigel should definitely come back to politics. peter says well politics. peter says i'm well past the time of listening. nigel playing hard to get, get off the fence, make a decision. don't do it. yeah, exactly. don't do it. yeah, exactly. don't do it. yeah, exactly. don't do keir starmer as nigel. then dave yes, yes , yes. then dave says yes, yes, yes. nana, we are waiting for nigel. richard tice has kept the seat warm, ready for nigel's return, and joan says yes, nigel must come back. but look how great he's got so much support. yeah, i think he's a formidable character. >> i mean, there's no doubt he doesn't suffer fools. >> look what he did the >> look what he did with the natwest he's. and >> look what he did with the natv strong he's. and >> look what he did with the natvstrong character he's. and >> look what he did with the natv strong character and e's. and >> look what he did with the natvstrong character and he'sknd he's strong character and he's no doubt going from strength to strength. they are they really are. we saw the election up and it shows what a story. >> well listen we're going to have quickly to leigh have to go quickly to leigh harris to harris leigh you're going to have you've have less time. leigh. you've got brief. what got about 30s. be brief. so what do think, nigel? back 30s . do you think, nigel? back 30s. >> well, i'm sorry to disappoint , uh, matthew, but i'm going to agree lizzie . agree with lizzie. >> uh, country does need >> uh, this country does need

someone farage. someone like nigel farage. >> and know , rishi sunak and >> and you know, rishi sunak and tory have comprehensively tory wets have comprehensively failed . the polls are failed. the polls are diabolical. and as you see in the recent by elections , there the recent by elections, there are lots of unhappy conservative voters. but have pretty much voters. but i have pretty much come round to the idea that the uk needs major political uk needs a major political realignment. but this will probably mean, as we know, the total destruction of the conservative party. >> i can see nigel farage >> and i can see nigel farage playing very significant role playing a very significant role in that. >> probably the one >> he's probably the only one that it. that can do it. >> think? actually, >> you think? well actually, i spoke andrew jenkins and spoke to dame andrew jenkins and she bringing back she suggested bringing back boris, listen, harris, boris, but listen, lee harris, really you . really good to talk to you. thank that's lee thank you so much. that's lee harris. our great british thank you so much. that's lee harris.this our great british thank you so much. that's lee harris.this is ur great british thank you so much. that's lee harris.this is gbsreat british thank you so much. that's lee harris.this is gb news. ritish thank you so much. that's lee harris.this is gb news. we're voice. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. stay tuned for danny kaye crates. he my danny kaye crates. he is my difficult conversation . then difficult conversation. then after break, royal roundup after the break, royal roundup time. lady colin campbell will be here. anywhere

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nana akua and there's always something going on in the royal household . and this week has household. and this week has been different . and every been no different. and every saturday i love to you saturday i love to give you a rundown. and who better to do so than well than lady colin campbell? well i'm lady colin campbell, thank you so much forjoining us. lady colin campbell, thank you. good to see you on a saturday. right. well look, harry has come out and said that he may well, if needed , help out the royal needed, help out with the royal family were not a grand lady. colin campbell, what are your thoughts on this ? well well, thoughts on this? well well, that's rather like the nazi thing that they'd like to liberate the poles from occupation by them. >> the whole thing is an absolute joke . if it wasn't such absolute joke. if it wasn't such an outrage . i mean, harry's an outrage. i mean, harry's offering . it's all so offering. it's all so hypocritical . and it's also hypocritical. and it's also phoney . i mean, he knows , first phoney. i mean, he knows, first of all, that the royal family wouldn't want him. he also knows from his own personal experience in the past, the diaries , royal

in the past, the diaries, royal diaries are or are planned six months in advance , and therefore months in advance, and therefore he's going to come over. what's he's going to come over. what's he going to come over and do and who he's who is he going to meet and greet ? who is going to want and greet? who is going to want to speak to him? first of all, he'd have the problem of having to work his way around the family and the families advisers, all of whom deplore him at this stage . then he'd him at this stage. then he'd have to meet the public who deplore him . i mean, this is all deplore him. i mean, this is all phoney baloney to make him look good so that on page six in new york, they'll be able to say something nice about him. it's utter rubbish , and it's really utter rubbish, and it's really offensive . offensive. >> oh, it does seem a bit ridiculous. i was going to pull you up on the comparison, uh, of the comparison that you made. but then i remembered he did actually as a nazi for actually dress up as a nazi for actually dress up as a nazi for a just thought. mm. a party, so ijust thought. mm. well, but i want ask

well, i said, but i want to ask you, though. he is suggesting that the beginning of that this is the beginning of a reconciliation potentially there with royal family. do you with the royal family. do you believe ? believe him? >> i mean, it's so laughable that, you know , i'm not even that, you know, i'm not even sure one should be conned . sure one should be conned. descend to comment the whole thing is a joke. of course it's not true. it's utter rubbish. i mean, it plays well. you know, harry and meghan are in desperate straits at the moment. they are looking at a very empty, dire for the future. netflix yes, i have been saying this for some time now . their this for some time now. their deal with netflix is indeed over andifs deal with netflix is indeed over and it's either going to be revised tremendously downwards for them , or then it's going to for them, or then it's going to be terminated altogether. they have meghan is now going to lemonade . i mean, give me lemonade. i mean, give me a break. you know, instead of spotify . so you go from the

spotify. so you go from the biggest to something irrelevant to make more money. you don't make more money. i mean, their finances are in disaster and they're reputations are in disaster. and all of this is an attempt to sort of rebrand themselves as the royal. the resident royals in california. except of course, the americans fought a war of independence to avoid having a royal family but they're setting themselves up as they're setting themselves up as the resident royal family in the united states of america . the united states of america. the whole thing is an absolute joke . whole thing is an absolute joke. it's farcical . it's for them to it's farcical. it's for them to try to make some money and hope that some sense , since they've that some sense, since they've exhausted all, all of the big boys by nationally and commercially , they're now trying commercially, they're now trying to go for the little people who are going to provide them with money. but it's not going to

work . harry and meghan's work. harry and meghan's lifestyle requires a capital sum of a half a billion dollars . of a half a billion dollars. he's not even worth ten times that. he's not even worth ten times that . their he's not even worth ten times that. their income is negligible and i, you know, friends of mine have been saying for some time now that they refuse to take their calls because every time they phone, they well, she phones , she wants something , phones, she wants something, usually to catch a lift on someone, say , and people just someone, say, and people just don't want to know. i mean, you look look at what's going on. it's before our eyes. they've gone from up here to down there, and they're continuing on a downward slide . and they have downward slide. and they have tried to rebrand themselves in in terms of being a royal couple. well, everybody knows that they're not attached to the royal family. everybody knows

that the royal family wants to have nothing to do with them. you know , it's the whole thing you know, it's the whole thing is a con and it's a really offensive con because we're supposed to believe that black is white and pink is green. when we know that black is black and pink is pink . pink is pink. >> oh, you see, it does feel a bit hypocritical. i you know, i'll give you that because, you know , they've talked about the know, they've talked about the fact that they're going to he said how illness can bring a family together. but briefly your thoughts on that because meghan's not gone to see her dad yet. so i just feel a bit that feels a disingenuous as well i >>i >> i mean, again, a study in hypocrisy and a study, quite frankly , in lack of intent frankly, in lack of intent science, because he's speaking about how illness unifies family . well, he spent 12 minutes with his father . or to let me his father. or to let me rephrase that , his father rephrase that, his father allowed him to spend 12 minutes with him. he came over here

rarely to sort of present himself and reconnect royally . himself and reconnect royally. but, you know, there's no unity with him and his family. but, you know, there's no unity with him and his family . meghan with him and his family. meghan hasn't seen her father . her hasn't seen her father. her father, remember, had to heart attacks and a serious stroke and is still not 100% recovered. her father lives three hours away from them by a road. yeah, and they have not managed to go to see the father. want to phone the father ? i mean, i speak to the father? i mean, i speak to him , her father and her family him, her father and her family quite often. you know . and we're quite often. you know. and we're supposed to believe that illness is a unifying thing. i mean, give me a break. this is going to the good. is that be. >> let me call it. we're running out of time. but it's really good to talk to you. thank you so much. uh, listen, this is gb news on tv, online and on digital come, my digital radio. still to come, my great british debate this, and i'm asking, we keep i'm asking, should we keep sending to . ukraine?

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>> good afternoon . it's fast >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching 5:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next hour , me and my panel the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming up, time right now. coming up, it's time for difficult conversation. for my difficult conversation. i'll joined an amazing i'll be joined by an amazing paralympic athlete, danny crates , who represented in . , who represented team gb in. sydney in athens, then for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking how much more aid should be sending to ukraine? should we be sending to ukraine? but first let's get your latest news francis . news with sam francis. >> nana. thank you very much. good evening. just gone 5:00 and leading the news this hour. the family of jailed politician alexei navalny have said they don't know where his body is and that they believe he's being held in russia so held by authorities in russia so they cover their tracks . it they can cover their tracks. it comes as president putin faces increasing international

condemnation . here in the uk, condemnation. here in the uk, crowds have been gathered outside russian embassy in outside the russian embassy in london, laying tributes and protesting through the night. the kremlin, though, says the west's unacceptable west's reaction is unacceptable and they've described it as absolutely rabid. the ukrainian president , absolutely rabid. the ukrainian president, vladimir absolutely rabid. the ukrainian president , vladimir zelenskyy, president, vladimir zelenskyy, is among those who've laid blame on the russian leader, and earlier was addressing earlier he was addressing the munich conference, munich security conference, where putin a thug who where he called putin a thug who he must be stopped . he says must be stopped. meanwhile at that conference in munich, president zelenskyy also said there is a shortage of long—range weapons that are hampering its fight against russian forces . joining g7 russian forces. joining g7 ministers for a minute. russian forces. joining g7 ministers for a minute . silent ministers for a minute. silent today, foreign secretary . lord today, foreign secretary. lord cameron said that the uk will stand by ukraine, a sentiment that was echoed the labour that was echoed by the labour leader, starmer. leader, sir keir starmer. president zelenskyy also told leaders in munich there's an urgent need more western urgent need for more western support . as the two year support. as the two year anniversary invasion anniversary of the invasion approaches . meanwhile, sweden . approaches. meanwhile, sweden. is a step closer to joining nato . it's after the prime minister of hungary told supporters today

that country will soon in that his country will soon be in a position ratify their a position to ratify their membership after settling a dispute. sweden is just 140 miles from the russian border. the country applied to join nato in 2022. a historic shift in its policy, which was prompted by vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine. well, the numbers of arrests have now hit 11 in london for a string of alleged offences from inciting racial hatred to supporting a proscribed terror organisation. that's as thousands join a pro—palestinian march in the caphal pro—palestinian march in the capital. up to 250,000 people were expected to join the protests today, with 1500 police officers from multiple forces on the streets. those taking part in demonstrations are being warned to leave within the next houn warned to leave within the next hour. at around 6:00 tonight, our reporter , will hollis, has our reporter, will hollis, has been following the protests and he's outside the israeli embassy i >> -- >> this is emma >> this is the end point for the global day of action that's been marching through the city of london today. there's a stage there where jeremy corbyn, the

former labour leader, has just finished speaking, and the target destination is the israeli embassy. but you can see that officers from the met police have blocked the way officers say that they've arrested at least ten people in relation to the policing of protest today. this is the ninth day of global action, but it won't be the last time we're were also hearing that thousands of demonstrators have also been marching through glasgow . marching through glasgow. >> so in the last few hours to protest outside the scottish labour conference taking protest outside the scottish labouthere erence taking protest outside the scottish labouthere .�*ence taking protest outside the scottish labouthere . during taking protest outside the scottish labouthere . during thattaking place there. during that conference, members backed conference, members have backed calls for a ceasefire in gaza in a show of unanimous support for leader anas sarwar to end leader anas sarwar calls to end israel's conflict with the hamas terror group. that motion passed unopposed on the second day of the scottish labour conference in glasgow , and urged an end to in glasgow, and urged an end to the rocket fire and an unconditional release of hostages that were taken by hamas. october 7th. it hamas. on october the 7th. it puts the party, though, at odds

with westminster, with sir keir starmer stopping short of calling for ceasefire. he says calling for a ceasefire. he says instead that he wants to see a sustainable end the war. in sustainable end to the war. in other news today, a third of small boat arrivals since 2018 have taken place. while rishi sunak was prime minister. that's according to new analysis by the labour party. that's after 52 people reportedly crossed the channel by small boat yesterday, meaning there's been just over 38,500 arrivals since mr sunak became prime minister. labour says it's proof the government's focus on its rwanda plan isn't enough to solve the crisis, but the government insists its policies are working . with the policies are working. with the number of crossings last year down by more than a third compared to the previous year. exams for foreign dentists could be scrapped under new plans to boost the number of available appointments. it would mean dentists trained abroad would be able to work in the nhs without able to work in the nhs without a formal check on their quality of education. the british of education. but the british dental association has dismissed the idea . they say won't be

the idea. they say it won't be enough fix what they've enough to fix what they've called leaky bucket . and called a leaky bucket. and finally , farmers in kent have finally, farmers in kent have been staging a protest at a tesco supermarket . they say tesco supermarket. they say they're furious at what they've called cheap international imports . at around 20, tractors imports. at around 20, tractors are parked at tesco extra in whitfield, near dover, to raise awareness of what they fear could be a threat to britain's food security . they say they food security. they say they can't compete with cheap foreign imports and unless something is done for british farmers, they say, won't be able to afford to feed the . public for the latest feed the. public for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. if you're watching on television or if you're listening on radio, go to gbnews.com alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . and for radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some the will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines

right . show all right now. this show is all about opinion . it's mine, it's about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. course it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. joining me today is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party advisor matthew laza. still to come, my difficult conversation today is with danny crates . now. conversation today is with danny crates. now. he's an incredible paralympic athlete who represented team gb at sydney and athens . then represented team gb at sydney and athens. then for represented team gb at sydney and athens . then for the great and athens. then for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should we still be sending aid to ukraine and at the end we'll be doing my quick fire quiz with my panellists matthew lawson and lizzie cundy aslef. you can get in touch gb views news. com or tweet views at gb news. com or tweet me at . gb news. it's time now me at. gb news. it's time now for this week's difficult conversation . danny crates conversation. danny crates journey to greatness is nothing short of inspirational . despite short of inspirational. despite facing adversity early in life, losing his right arm in a car

accident whilst in australia in 1994, danny didn't let this set him back in ofsted. he embraced athletics , becoming a powerhouse athletics, becoming a powerhouse in the world of paralympic sprinting, specialising in 800m, he clinched numerous gold medals on the international stage, including at the paralympic games , european championships games, european championships and world champions, before bidding farewell to athletics in 2009. i'm pleased to welcome danny crates. hey, how you doing? that's usually my single shot.i doing? that's usually my single shot. i was quite annoyed seeing you on there. i was like, put it back on me! haha. it's supposed to be sudden reveal. to be like a sudden reveal. what's with these people ? what's wrong with these people? i'm joking. right, danny? so look, it's really lovely to meet you. admit , i look, it's really lovely to meet you. admit, i looked you. i have to admit, i looked at you and then i didn't think about didn't look about your arm. i didn't look about your arm. i didn't look about then about your arm. then i remembered had look remembered that i had to look at your your your arm because of your arm. and i looked i saw and then i looked and i saw there arm. then i kept there was no arm. then i kept i contact you. didn't contact with you. so you didn't think looked your arm? do think i looked at your arm? do people do that to you a lot? and do that? do you get that? >> strange one. >> it's a really strange one. because accident first because when the accident first happened, first, you have to get used image.

happened, first, you have to get useand image. happened, first, you have to get useand that's image. happened, first, you have to get useand that's probably image. happened, first, you have to get useand that's probably the ge. >> and that's probably the hardest thing. that's probably >> and that's probably the harme, thing. that's probably >> and that's probably the harme, thatg. that's probably >> and that's probably the harme, that was at's probably >> and that's probably the harme, that was at's hardesty for me, that was the hardest part of that journey back part of that mental journey back . as soon as you . sukh um, so as soon as you hospitals are very safe place, when you're in hospital. i was in hospital australia. yeah. in hospital in australia. yeah. um, and was only um, and i was, i was only actually about six days actually in for about six days before persuaded them to let before i persuaded them to let me out for lunch, but, um , but me out for lunch, but, um, but that first going out was that first time going out was when i suddenly that when i suddenly realised that people look. and people are going to look. and they. and they stared , they. they did. and they stared, as we all because it's just as we all do, because it's just it's trying . people's just it's just trying. people's just curiosity and that was very difficult having people look at me all the time. but now, now , me all the time. but now, now, now, i wouldn't notice that if me and you walk down the street, you would see people look at me, but notice . it but i wouldn't notice. and it took a couple of years, took me a couple of years, probably, to get to that point . probably, to get to that point. and as soon as i got to that point , it and as soon as i got to that point, it meant i was comfortable. >> then it like being >> then what's it like being black? that's what was like black? that's what it was like when i i had when i was younger. i know i had no was looking at no idea anyone was looking at me. because there me. i didn't know because there weren't many of us there. i mean, to be honest, i kind of like i didn't know like it, but i didn't know so. and it's funny, think, i

and it's funny, i think, i suppose because in my view, suppose it's because in my view, you of out of your own you kind of see out of your own eyes so you don't yourself. eyes so you don't see yourself. you out your eyes, and you see out of your eyes, and other you and they other people see you and they might project that onto you. but to fair, i probably wouldn't to be fair, i probably wouldn't have noticed. but it's because i knew. yeah. so knew. and so then, yeah. so what's so what happened what's it like? so what happened ? when up and ? and when you woke up and realised what, what what went through your mind ? through your mind? >> i actually came to i was about foot down an embankment about 15 foot down an embankment , um, in still in the car with the arm land across my lap. oh my . so the first thing my god. so the first thing i realised there was an arm there. i actually didn't think was realised there was an arm there. i actuaty didn't think was realised there was an arm there. i actu at first,1't think was realised there was an arm there. i actuat first, sothink was realised there was an arm there. i actu at first, so there wasis mine at first, so there was panic first was panic at first and there was a passenger in the car and i said to passenger, there's to the passenger, like, there's an on my lap, and he said, to the passenger, like, there's an look, my lap, and he said, to the passenger, like, there's an look, it'slap, and he said, to the passenger, like, there's an look, it's yours.|d he said, to the passenger, like, there's an look, it's yours. and said, to the passenger, like, there's an look, it's yours. and thati, to the passenger, like, there's an almostit's yours. and thati, to the passenger, like, there's an almostit' calming and thati, to the passenger, like, there's an almostit' calming moment, to the passenger, like, there's an almostit' calming moment for was almost a calming moment for some then some stupid reason. but then i had to get he was gone. he was out of the car by that. and then i had to get out of the car, but i had to get out of the car, but i couldn't get out my side. um because it was so badly damaged. i had to get out the passenger's side, and i and picked side, and i and i picked the arm up it with did you up and took it with me. did you feel at that point. at

feel pain? not at that point. at that point, it's just pure shock and fear to get and ad and just fear to get out of can and ad and just fear to get out of car. and then luckily it of that car. and then luckily it was of these open roads was on one of these open roads in australia. only one in australia. it was only one house the entire stretch of house on the entire stretch of road. lady in the house, road. and the lady in the house, a lady called cathy heard it and she told her husband to she just told her husband to call an ambulance and came running in because there was nobody was just nobody else to help. it was just me at this stage in me on my own. at this stage in the ditch, running the bottom of a ditch, running around an arm my in my around with an arm in my in my other hand and, um, and she, she literally just rugby tackled me to floor on top of to the floor and sat on top of me until the, the paramedics and the up . the police turned up. >> rugby tackled you pretty much. yeah >> an because >> with an arm, because i was losing much and she losing so much blood and she just instinctively knew the just instinctively knew that the that the calmer she could keep me, the safer i would be. and she just, she and we spoke to her afterwards when my mum and dad come out to, to get me um, we went to see her and um, to a to show her i was okay. >> sort of. oh bless her. >> sort of. oh bless her. >> and, um, and she was telling the story and she just, she said i pretty much just sat on top of your just hold you

down. >> oh, bless her and do you do you contact her you still sort of contact her and talk to her or. >> mum for years she used >> my mum was for years she used to write to her because is to write to her because this is pre internet facebook pre internet and pre facebook and mum used to and stuff. so my mum used to write her all the time. write it to her all the time. christmas and until christmas cards. um and until recently contact . and recently they lost contact. and when my autobiography came out in a copy and, in 2012, we sent her a copy and, and we did in contact and so we did stay in contact with a number of with her for, for a number of years. then whether she's with her for, for a number of years. on then whether she's with her for, for a number of years. on orien whether she's with her for, for a number of years. on or what'sether she's with her for, for a number of years. on or what's happened to moved on or what's happened to her, we don't know. but we've tried again. >> so what were you doing before that then? because i that then? because as i understand started understand it, you started into getting involved athletics getting involved in athletics afterwards. how old were you afterwards. so how old were you when this happened? and i was 20. >> i rugby, i was an athlete at a younger age, but to no great level . then i switched to rugby. level. then i switched to rugby. rugby was where my passion and my was . i started on my love was. i started on a rugby journey. i was playing for the eastern counties of england. i was coached by an ex, a former um all black hooker called hika reid . um, at um all black hooker called hika reid. um, at my club um all black hooker called hika reid . um, at my club thurrock, reid. um, at my club thurrock, at the time, which was a big rugby club and then i decided to go off travelling to australia

and so went to australia and um, so i went to australia and um, so i went to australia and that's where had the and that's where i had the accident . um, right at the right accident. um, right at the right at the end, about a week before i was due to come home. so i got the in first and then in, the year in first and then in, and when i came home, and then when i came home, i went back rugby because went back to rugby first because from a rugby safe place, although didn't if i although i didn't know if i could play again, that was my sort family outside my family could play again, that was my sort they mily outside my family could play again, that was my sort they nurtured.ide my family could play again, that was my sort they nurtured me,�*ny family could play again, that was my sort they nurtured me, lookedily and they nurtured me, looked after my close after me as well as my close friends. and then i went back to rugby. i was playing rugby. it was televised. seen on was televised. it was seen on the written press the tv. there was written press about the fact that the one armed rugby armed winger was playing rugby and, able and, and this was against able bodied. full able bodied. yeah, full contact, able bodied. yeah, full contact, able bodied rugby still to an okay level . um, obviously not getting level. um, obviously not getting up to the first team levels anymore, still playing on anymore, but still playing on all then all right level. and then someone the paralympic someone from the paralympic association that association or or someone that was involved amputee was involved in amputee athletics some of this. the athletics saw some of this. the media that was around me at the time and eventually contacted me and, and persuaded me to look at athletics again. and that's it's not you don't become a paralympian. it's to such a high level. but it started the

journey and it's the it ignited something inside me that i wonder. i never thought about getting to the paralympics. i never thought about winning medals or titles. for me, it was abouti medals or titles. for me, it was about i wonder if i could make the gb team. i wonder if i could get that gb vest that i dreamt about when i was a kid. like when i used to run and i used to watch coe, cram ovett and i remember them. >> yeah, about my age. >> yeah, about my age. >> yeah. how old? a >> yeah. how old? i'm 51, a little older . little bit older. >> you're older than me? yeah. very good, very good. you're younger . very good. really? wow. younger. very good. really? wow. so now what are you doing now? because you're winning medals. you're a paralympian . have you you're a paralympian. have you retired from it now? and what are you up to these days? >> so i retired in 2009. and that transition . away from sport that transition. away from sport was very difficult. probably the hardest things i've gone through was very difficult. probably the halose things i've gone through was very difficult. probably the halose that gs i've gone through was very difficult. probably the halose that identitonne through was very difficult. probably the halose that identity thatthrough was very difficult. probably the halose that identity that iirough to lose that identity that i had. there was there was sort of a light at the end of that a semi light at the end of that tunnel we going into tunnel that we were going into the games, so i the london 2012 games, so i switched my to switched my attention to broadcast. working in that

broadcast. i was working in that arena a pundit and arena as a pundit and a co—commentator and a presenter on athletics for the host broadcaster, and i've done that all the way through to and i still that now, i'll be still do that now, and i'll be going on paris and working on going on to paris and working on that all through, that games. but all through, through career through my athletics career and post, main, my main role and post, my main, my main role and my main business about my main business is about helping individuals and businesses understand the like those building blocks of high performance through the lens of sport and then translate it into the world of business and individual performance. >> because it's competition. i'm very competitive, but i was into athletics and you read athletics and you know, i read that favourite race, that your your favourite race, your preferred was the your preferred race was the 800m. that was mine . 400 is too 800m. that was mine. 400 is too long a sprint . yeah 1500 is long for a sprint. yeah 1500 is two to far but 800 and i think hannah gaffey isn't it just in the middle there for me? >> i think i went for the four when i first came back to athletics know, when i first came back to athink:s know, when i first came back to athink:s was know, when i first came back to athink:s was a know, when i first came back to athink:s was a rugby know, when i first came back to athink:s was a rugby playeryw, i think it was a rugby player and the fours got that kind of fear factor that has, fear factor that everybody has, and four. and i did okay at the four. i got the bronze medal in sydney, but my coach, ayo falola,

but i just my coach, ayo falola, sadly longer us, he sadly no longer with us, but he he inspiration to me and he was an inspiration to me and he was an inspiration to me and he was an inspiration to me and he was the driving force behind me training group. but he me and my training group. but he tried to get me tried so hard to get me physically faster for the 400 and we just couldn't do it. and then so just made me stronger then so we just made me stronger andifs then so we just made me stronger and it's through making me stronger for the four that we found. the eight. and i don't know it took because if know why it took that because if i'd know why it took that because if pd about know why it took that because if i'd about it, i was i'd just thought about it, i was an 800 metre runner when i was younger. back younger. anyway but i went back to felt to it and the eight just felt right as you you said, right as you as you said, if you're metre runner, you're an 800 metre runner, it just you like it's just if you like it, it's, it's a, it's bit tactical, it's a, it's a bit tactical, it's aggressive. it's tactics. >> it's tactics that race isn't it. but let someone think they're winning but they're not. >> it's all about them. it's the mind games. yeah. >> now, now your book, what's it called? people called? where? where can people get it? >> it's danny get it? » n-s >> it's called danny boy. um it's still it's available on amazon. still um, in 2012, so it's um, it was out in 2012, so it's done. it's round. it's done. it's time. but it's, uh, it's more but it was more of an autobiography. it's actually co—written by my cousin. so me and together, and my cousin wrote it together, and, was it's about the and, um, it was it's about the story. more story story. it's more about a story of who finds

of an essex boy who finds himself in a bit of strife in australia, but then his australia, but then finds his way sport . um, australia, but then finds his way sport. um, and, way back through sport. um, and, and follows the same and it really follows the same pattern that i use when i do the keynote speaking , um, which is keynote speaking, um, which is the profession i have . but the main profession i have. but it follows that same journey and those learned. and those lessons learned. and that's was always those lessons learned. and that's to was always those lessons learned. and that's to be. was always those lessons learned. and that's to be. it was always those lessons learned. and that's to be. it was was always those lessons learned. and that's to be. it was supposed|ys those lessons learned. and that's to be. it was supposed to meant to be. it was supposed to be looked nice, be something that looked nice, felt . so we did it in felt nice. so we did it in a really nice quality . and i think really nice quality. and i think my did really good job my cousin did a really good job in as well. in writing it as well. >> you could pass a pearl >> so if you could pass a pearl of wisdom somebody who's of wisdom to somebody who's listening watching now and listening or watching now and maybe situation or maybe in a similar situation or a where they've been a situation where they've been involved sort involved in some sort of accident you have, what accident like you have, what would say them? would you say to them? >> it's always philosophy has >> it's always my philosophy has always life doesn't always been that life doesn't put front of that always been that life doesn't putcan't front of that always been that life doesn't putcan't handle 'ont of that always been that life doesn't putcan't handle .nt of that always been that life doesn't putcan't handle . um, that always been that life doesn't putcan't handle . um, thingst we can't handle. um, things happen to us, you know, and you're never going to get from a to b without getting a few cuts and , some more and bruises, and some get more than but it's about sort than others, but it's about sort of just move on from them of how we just move on from them all the time. and it was all the time. and for me, it was how i moved on from the accident. necessarily accident. it wasn't necessarily thinking lost, thinking about what i'd lost, but thinking about what but it was thinking about what i could and it was about

could do, and it was about switching i'm could do, and it was about switsaying i'm could do, and it was about switsaying it i'm could do, and it was about switsaying it happened i'm not saying it happened overnight. wasn't easy. overnight. it wasn't easy. it took was always took time, but it was always about looking forward and always having something to work towards. for me, it was towards. so for me, it was getting back to training in rugby. was once i was rugby. then it was once i was training again, could i play? and eventually went back and then eventually i went back to scuba diving, a passion that i and i trained scuba i had and i trained as a scuba diving and worked diving instructor and i worked around that. around the world doing that. i then my then i've then switched my attention to athletics and done every level athletics , but every level of athletics, but it's always been it's just been that one step at a time, just moving from once i once i've secured one what can i do secured one thing, what can i do next? and it's always with the mindset know , it's not mindset of, you know, it's not always going to go perfect. and as , you know, i as an athlete, you know, i always say you have to learn to lose races before you ever win a race. and i lost more races than i won, in every race i i ever won, but in every race i ever learnt so it ever lost, i learnt a lot. so it was always taking those lessons from that didn't from those races that didn't quite according to plan. quite go according to plan. that's forward. that's always moving forward. >> danny, it's really a >> listen, danny, it's really a pleasure talk you. thank >> listen, danny, it's really a pleesore talk you. thank >> listen, danny, it's really a pleeso muchalk you. thank >> listen, danny, it's really a pleeso much for you. thank >> listen, danny, it's really a pleeso much forjoining thank >> listen, danny, it's really a pleeso much forjoining me.1k >> listen, danny, it's really a pleeso much forjoining me. that you so much forjoining me. that is the brilliant danny. great. he well, he's ex he is, uh, well, he's an ex olympian, but also

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day has led politicians both at home and abroad, to call for a reaffirmation of the west's support for ukraine, saying that his death emphasises the necessity of defeating putin's army. now, of course , i think we army. now, of course, i think we hear today that they said that it was sudden death in obe just suddenly died where they couldn't find the body, which again, doesn't very again, doesn't sound, uh, very convinced thing. and all of this comes as ukraine's military situation on the ground is becoming increasingly precarious, with president zelenskyy making an urgent appeal for more weapons from his country's allies to avoid what he called a catastrophic situation in europe. but in the meantime, ukraine's top military commander has confirmed that ukrainian troops have now withdrawn from the city of avdiivka , handing the russians avdiivka, handing the russians one of their biggest military victories in months. however, with billions of pounds having already been spent on keeping ukraine's war effort going and the cost of living crisis in this country continuing bite this country continuing to bite for the great british debate

this hour, i'm asking should we continue sending aid to ukraine? well, discuss , i'm joined by well, to discuss, i'm joined by defence analyst and former british officer, lieutenant british army officer, lieutenant colonel crawford and also colonel stuart crawford and also political jess gill . political commentator jess gill. all right, stuart, i'm going to start should we start with you. should we continue with this interminable it , um, supply of it would seem, um, supply of arms to ukraine? >> well, that's a very good question. >> and thank you again for having me on your program. >> uh, my, uh, short answer to that would be that i think we should . and the reason , uh, the should. and the reason, uh, the main reason is a practical one in that , to all intents and in that, to all intents and purposes, ukraine is fighting nato's proxy war against russia . nato's proxy war against russia. >> and if ukraine falls , then, >> and if ukraine falls, then, uh , who knows what comes next? uh, who knows what comes next? >> which other country may then be drawn into the conflict ? and be drawn into the conflict? and so i think that, uh, ukraine is very much the front line of nato. if you want to put it that way. and that we have been a

very sort of parsimonious in our support in terms of what the other side russia is turning out at the moment. other side russia is turning out at the moment . and so we not at the moment. and so we not only should we continue to send aid to ukraine, but we should increase it, uh, as as president zelenskyy has been asking for the past two years. >> mm. well well, it's sort of we can't even , don't even have we can't even, don't even have enough weapons and troops around country, let alone ukraine. but jess gill, your thoughts. yeah >> so i think with this, the british people have already put forward so much money, billions of pounds , which could be going of pounds, which could be going towards the nhs, it could be going towards policing, towards the british people. and i think that money would actually be best spent there. the british people are suffering in this cost living crisis . i think cost of living crisis. i think that's the money best that's where the money is best spent. also funding ukraine spent. and also funding ukraine is just continuing this war. the reality is with war, there's no winners and both ukraine and russia are both going to lose regardless of when this going regardless of when this is going to end.

>> and the to end. >> and to end. >>and >> and what the results will be. >> and what the results will be. >> realistically , i don't >> and what the results will be. >> that alistically , i don't >> and what the results will be. >> that russially , i don't >> and what the results will be. >> that russia will i don't >> and what the results will be. >> that russia will continue think that russia will continue to aggress to other countries because they're barely winning in ukraine anyway. >> but what do you take to his point that actually it's a proxy war and ukraine are kind of falling for instead of us? >> uh, what do you mean by that? >> uh, what do you mean by that? >> sorry. >> sorry. >> well, his point was that it's a so are a proxy war. so they are fighting literally on our behalf to putin encroaching. to stop putin encroaching. you're saying don't you're saying that you don't think but that is think he will, but but that is the point that he's making, do you? yeah. >> i don't think the russia, the russian government kind russian government has that kind of they're of levels of funding. they're barely against barely able to fight against ukraine, rest of ukraine, never mind the rest of the rest of europe and the rest of nato. the rest of europe and the rest of iyoui. the rest of europe and the rest of iyou don't think so ? um, well, >> you don't think so? um, well, you know, that sounds like a reasonable argument do it. you know, that sounds like a reascactuallygument do it. you know, that sounds like a reascactually russiat do it. you know, that sounds like a reascactually russia don't» it. that actually russia don't really the capability of really have the capability of continuing with it in any case. >> well, yes. i mean, i hear the argument and it's a perfectly valid one. uh my personal view is it's a slightly naive one. >> um , but then again, um, you >> um, but then again, um, you know, we've seen russia over the

agesis know, we've seen russia over the ages is constantly trying to, uh, expand. >> and putin has, i believe, at the back of his mind, a return to the russian empire of old, where the borders were far, uh, more to the west than they are at the moment. so i think that, um , we have to be very careful um, we have to be very careful not to underestimate what putin's russia and i emphasise putin's russia and i emphasise putin's russia and i emphasise putin's russia might want to do next. certainly there are no friend of the west and we are well advised, i believe , to be well advised, i believe, to be on our guard and to support those who are fighting our battles for us at the moment . battles for us at the moment. >> well, jesse said that it's quite a naive view. yeah >> to on that. i think we have to bring this back to people. it's not just government, it's the people these countries the people in these countries who are suffering in ukraine and russia , the people with their russia, the people with their property rights, their property is being taken away. they've been oppressed on both sides . been oppressed on both sides. and also the soldiers . i been oppressed on both sides. and also the soldiers. i think either way , either from

either way, either from zelenskyy side where your property is being oppressed and you've been conscripted to inevitably die in war or you're even killed by, um, putin's soldiers. like, either way, i don't think it's good for either side. and i think we need to find peace. and the uk funding this is just, um, making it this war is just, um, making it last longer . this war is just, um, making it last longer. yeah, well , what do last longer. yeah, well, what do you think she's saying? >> that we're making it last longer by funding it? >> well, i think that's absolutely correct, actually, but, absolutely correct, actually, but uh , we look absolutely correct, actually, butuh , we look at this >> uh, we have to look at this pragmatically in that the aggressor in this instance is very clearly russia. >> and , and, uh, russia cannot >> and, and, uh, russia cannot be allowed to get away with this sort of naked aggression against another sovereign nation . now another sovereign nation. now everybody wants peace. i mean, anybody who has been to war and ihave anybody who has been to war and i have been to war does not want to repeat the experience. so we're all on the same side when it comes to wanting peace . but it comes to wanting peace. but what we cannot do is , is allow what we cannot do is, is allow aggressive dictators like putin

to dictate and overcome other neighbouring countries as part of his , uh, political plan to of his, uh, political plan to expand russia and it has to be resisted. and that's why we need to keep supporting ukraine with weapons and other material suppues. supplies. >> jess, what's the alternative, then? because you know, if we don't do this, then ukraine will fall very quickly and there'll be a lot of death and destruction. jess, what do you say to that? >> i don't have all the answers . >> i don't have all the answers. i think we're just delaying the inevitable with this. i think individual goals can have the power to boycott russia and boycott russia's brands. and also funds ukraine. think also funds ukraine. i think there's that . and i there's power in that. and i agree, shouldn't agree, like russia shouldn't have they've done. and have done what they've done. and i agree they should suffer the consequences of that. but i don't think that should at don't think that should be at the cost of the british people. and ukrainian people and also of the ukrainian people as who also have to fight as well, who also have to fight and this war. and fund this war. >> although they probably argue that us doing that is

that actually us doing that is actually keeping their spirits and their country alive . so i'll and their country alive. so i'll ask you then, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, should we continue then to fund this war? >> uh, yes, indeed we should . >> uh, yes, indeed we should. >> uh, yes, indeed we should. >> same question to you, jess. no no we shouldn't. right. well, listen , thank you so much, listen, thank you so much, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford. he's a defence analyst and former british army officer. and gill , and former british army officer. and gill, political and also jess gill, political commentator. you think? commentator. what do you think? at home? gb views gb news. com or gb news. should or tweet me at gb news. should we to send arms or we continue to send arms or allow this war to carry on in the way it has? you're with me. i'm nana akua. we are live on digital radio tv. we'll digital radio and on tv. we'll continue with the great british debate and asking debate this hour. and i'm asking , to send aid , should we continue to send aid to ukraine? hear to ukraine? you'll hear the thoughts panel matthew thoughts of my panel matthew laza lizzie cundy . but laza and also lizzie cundy. but first, let's get your latest news with sam francis . now anna, news with sam francis. now anna, thank you very much. >> good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it'sjust >> good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's just gone or coming to 5:30. and we start

coming up to 5:30. and we start this half hour with some breaking news. that's just been coming into us. one person has we understand , been charged with we understand, been charged with assisting illegal entry to the uk. that's following the story we were covering earlier this week where migrants were discovered in the back of a freezer lorry east sussex. freezer lorry in east sussex. the home office hasn't named the person that they have charged. it comes after a major incident was sparked, prompting large responses from emergency services at new haven's ferry port. six people were taken to hospital following that incident, and police say they are continuing their investigation . as in other news, investigation. as in other news, alexei navalny's mother has been told by russian officials that her son was struck down by what they called sudden death syndrome . it comes as his syndrome. it comes as his representatives say they don't know where his body is, accusing russian authorities of trying to cover their tracks here in the uk, meanwhile, crowds have been gathered outside the russian embassy, laying tributes and protesting night . protesting through the night. meanwhile sweden is a step

closer to joining nato after hungary signalled it would settle a dispute and ratify the membership . sweden is just 140 membership. sweden is just 140 miles from the russian border . miles from the russian border. the country applied to join nato in 2022. a historic shift in its policy, which was prompted by vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine. and 11 people, have been arrested for a string of alleged offences from inciting racial hatred to supporting a proscribed terror organisation. that's as thousands join a pro—palestinian march in central london. those taking part today have been warned by police to leave within the next 30 minutes. meanwhile those pro—palestinian protesters were also seen in glasgow today as scottish labour backed calls for a ceasefire in gaza on the second day of its party conference. the motion passed unopposed . but it's puts the unopposed. but it's puts the party at odds with westminster, with sir keir starmer stopping short of calling for a ceasefire. he said instead that he wants a sustainable end to the war. >> friend is right and for the

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radio show. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 36 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . and it's time now for nana akua. and it's time now for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should we continue sending aid to ukraine? of course, the death of vladimir

putin's most vocal critic, alexei , in a prison in alexei navalny, in a prison in siberia due to sudden deaths in jail, apparently, where they can't find the body, which is somewhat suspicious, put it mildly. it's led politicians both at home and abroad, to call for a reaffirmation of the west's support for ukraine, saying his death emphasises the necessity of defeating putin's army on this . as army on all of this. as ukraine's military situation on the ground is becoming more and more precarious, president zelenskyy making an urgent appeal for more weapons from his country's allies to avoid what he calls a catastrophic situation in europe, which is obviously a complete annihilation of ukraine. if we don't help. in the meantime, ukraine's top military commander don't help. in the meantime, ukriconfirmednilitary commander don't help. in the meantime, ukriconfirmed thatary commander don't help. in the meantime, ukriconfirmed that ukrainians|der has confirmed that ukrainians troops withdrawn from troops have now withdrawn from the city of avdiivka, handing the city of avdiivka, handing the russians one of the biggest military victories in months. so billions of pounds have already been spent keeping this been spent on keeping this effort going . and, of course, effort going. and, of course, the cost of living crisis in this country to bite. the cost of living crisis in thi foryuntry to bite. the cost of living crisis in thi for they to bite. the cost of living crisis in thi for the great to bite. the cost of living crisis in thi for the great britisho bite. the cost of living crisis in thi for the great british debate so for the great british debate this asking , should we this hour, i'm asking, should we continue to ukraine? continue sending aid to ukraine? well, joining me discuss the

well, joining me to discuss the fabulous lizzie cundy and also matthew laza, uh , i'm going to matthew laza, uh, i'm going to start with you, matthew laza. yes >> i think we should continue. uh funding. i think it's really important the funding important that the funding that's in america , that's been held up in america, because president is because president trump is trying of play former trying to sort of play former president trump's a bit silly and get his mates not to agree . and get his mates not to agree. the funding needs be unblocked. >> well, that's not true, matthew. did was get matthew. what he did was get them the as soon them to do the funding as soon as he said it, half of them paid up and not the president. >> no, no, i mean, >> yeah. no, no, no, i mean, i mean, in terms of the funding that americans themselves that the americans themselves are the are releasing in terms of the stuff congress. are releasing in terms of the sth yes, congress. are releasing in terms of the stufyes, should congress. are releasing in terms of the sth yes, should keep,'ess. are releasing in terms of the sth yes, should keep, uh, but yes, we should keep, uh, funding the war in ukraine because we need to support freedom and democracy. i mean, what bigger reminder could we have of just what a threat russia or putin poses, not russia poses or putin poses, not just the international just to to the the international situation, know, to the situation, but, you know, to the russian the russian people themselves as the death it's hard. know, we've mean, it's hard. you know, we've got lots of priorities at home. but this is a absolutely vital that we keep going. >> well, i've got >> lizzie cundy well, i've got to we've given 12 to say already we've given 12 billion support to billion in overall support to ukraine. and we've also announced a further 2.5 billion that we're going to give . and i

that we're going to give. and i think so we have to continue to support can i say there is no price on freedom ? let's not price on freedom? let's not forget what happened in 1939 to 1945. in the second world war. look, it can happen to you, ukraine. what's the next country 7 ukraine. what's the next country ? it could us. and i think ? it could be us. and i think there is no penny or price on our freedom. and i'm afraid. look what happened with the second world war. if it wasn't, as they say with winston churchill, we all could be speaking germany and things very , very differently. >> language learn. >> tricky language to learn. i must say. yes, i know, i know one my coogan one thing though. my coogan slapper is kaput. oh my is slapper is kaput. oh my pen is broken. very useful, very broken. ah, very useful, very useful, very useful. >> it? is it though? is it broken? >> it was actually. i threw one over there. on over the back there. it's on the floor. over the back there. it's on the flo> and this is my lump is lumpy. thatis >> and this is my lump is lumpy. that is my dog called lumpy. that is my dog is called lumpy. oh now back to the war. oh i don't now back to the war. >> to that . >> back to that. >> back to that. >> but was boudica sent a message twitter, she says, message on twitter, she says, and that and just happens to think that we actually . and she we should stop actually. and she said but that jess said sorry nana, but that jess is too young to understand the political situation. she hasn't

experienced cold and experienced the cold war and russia aggression . why russia ussr aggression. why have, uh uh why have young people commenting on this? i think they're asking about that. why? why it was important to get young people on to comment about this because they part this because they are part is. >> let's forget this wasn't >> let's not forget this wasn't a invasion. and a legal unprovoked invasion. and putin is the most vile dictator who has to be stopped and look at excel alexei navalny. i mean, it's heartbreaking. the one, you know, vocal voice against him. and he gave he knew when he came back to russia that he would probably be imprisoned and he would lose his life. and he did that because he wanted to stand up is right . up for what is right. >> i mean, i think, you know, i mean, i think, you know, it's good young people good to have young people come and so, you good to have young people come and it's so, you good to have young people come and it's good so, you good to have young people come and it's good to so, you good to have young people come and it's good to hear, you good to have young people come and it's good to hear from know, it's good to hear from jess, but i don't with her jess, but i don't agree with her because that, you know, because i think that, you know, there issue about the there is an issue about the desire for peace at costs. desire for peace at all costs. well get you well you know, you don't get you have have to pay have to sometimes have to pay a price peace, which have to sometimes have to pay a pri as peace, which have to sometimes have to pay a pri as said, peace, which have to sometimes have to pay a pri as said, whatice, which have to sometimes have to pay a pri as said, whatice, whiyin have to sometimes have to pay a pri (second aid, whatice, whiyin have to sometimes have to pay a pri (second world1atice, whiyin have to sometimes have to pay a pri (second world1atic

grimness, about, because grimness, was about, because democracy of grimness, was about, because derthose y of grimness, was about, because derthose countries of grimness, was about, because derthose countries eastern of all those countries in eastern europe democracies europe which are now democracies , be in the , which used to be in behind the iron you know, and iron curtain. so you know, and ultimately, we want russia to be iron curtain. so you know, and u|democracy'e want russia to be iron curtain. so you know, and u|democracy again, russia to be iron curtain. so you know, and u|democracy again, russia to isay that. >> but there is the >> but then there is the argument that if we hadn't suppued supplied all the arms, the fighting stopped , fighting would have stopped, there people there would be fewer people killed, would be over. killed, and this would be over. i mean, it wouldn't stop there because wouldn't because because he wouldn't stop there. do, there. well, it might do, though, wouldn't it, if russia, if hadn't supplied arms, if we hadn't supplied the arms, russia then just russia would have then just invaded there'd russia would have then just invade more there'd russia would have then just invade more but there'd russia would have then just invade more but he there'd be no more death. but he wouldn't stop. >> we look at look at hitler, but putin won't stop. exactly he's a he's a maniac. but putin won't stop. exactly he's a he's a maniac . and look, he's a he's a maniac. and look, poland next or the baltic states. i think there's a lesson learned that russia was a key energy supplier to europe. and that it's lessons to be learnt to us that we have to be independent and not rely on it. >> to me, that's pretty obvious. i don't know why we even the fact that we don't even own our own water because other people supply own gas, supply it to us. our own gas, electricity, energy, it's all outsourced. utter outsourced. i think it's utter madness . we continue, but we madness. we continue, but we continue especially in

continue with it, especially in the face wars all over the the face of wars all over the world. yeah, they're absolutely steal, steal, steal. >> which why need to keep >> which is why we need to keep making steel imports harbour where closures are, where the current closures are, are we'd be the are proposed because we'd be the only country in the industrial world, the sort of former industrial who wouldn't industrial powers who wouldn't have able to make have the they be able to make their own steel, which, of course, vital ever do course, is vital if you ever do have fight yourself . have to fight a war yourself. >> could steel. we could >> we could melt steel. we could melt >> we could melt steel. we could me we could bits, we >> we could do bits, we can recycle >> we could do bits, we can recywe can't it from scratch. >> you need and you need the >> and you need and you need the stuff you need the virgin steel, as it, to make things as they call it, to make things the equipment. >> but you brought it up, matthew. may very matthew. it may be very different if trump, which i think get different if trump, which i thias, get different if trump, which i thias, as get different if trump, which i thias, as president get different if trump, which i thias, as president how get different if trump, which i thias, as president how it get different if trump, which i thias, as president how it will in as, as president how it will change the because he says in as, as president how it will ci he ;e the because he says in as, as president how it will ci he ;e the in, because he says in as, as president how it will ci he ;e the in, he acause he says in as, as president how it will ci he ;e the in, he can se he says in as, as president how it will ci he ;e the in, he can stop; says in as, as president how it will ci he ;e the in, he can stop itays if he steps in, he can stop it in 24 hours. >> well, i think and i object to people saying, oh, trump said that he'd stop funding. no, what he said was they're not paying their 2% of gdp, and it's ironic, even though he's not the president , everyone of ironic, even though he's not the presidywell,everyone of ironic, even though he's not the presidywell, ieryone of ironic, even though he's not the presidywell, i think; of ironic, even though he's not the presidywell, i think . of ironic, even though he's not the presidywell, i think . putinf ironic, even though he's not the presidywell, i think . putin have them. well, i think. putin have had the impact as well as trump in doing that in terms of the threat. well, no, no, no. but on

this trump the one this occasion, trump was the one who was criticised this, who was criticised for this, i think i his point okay. >> wi e“ the w the he said wi— >> it was the way he said it, but that's who cares. >> you have to and get >> you have to say it and get action. got action. he said it and got action. he said it and got action. that's what matters. well, this says nothing without action. that's what matters. well, thiyour's nothing without action. that's what matters. well, thiyour views.ing without action. that's what matters. well, thiyour views. let'sithout you and your views. let's welcome voices welcome our great british voices onto opportunity onto the show. their opportunity to what they to be on and tell us what they really topics really think about the topics we're discussing today. i've got four start four of you. yeah, let's start with london. alan with alan cook in london. alan so, time we stopped so, is it time we stopped funding ukraine? >> with >> nana certainly not with humanitarian we humanitarian aid. i think we should constantly . should continue that constantly. but, uh, what i think we need is a goal , an but, uh, what i think we need is a goal, an attainable goal. because i don't think we should have open ended funding for money and equipment. >> you know, it may be unrealistic to get crimea back, but certainly realistic to actually get the borders back to how they were in, uh, 2022. >> so . i think we need a goal >> so. i think we need a goal and fund up. >> so you so you think so you think we should carry on funding? yes we should carry on. >> but we i think >> yes, for now. but we i think we need to draw line in the we need to draw a line in the sandin we need to draw a line in the sand in the and say, we need to draw a line in the sand we'lle and say, we need to draw a line in the sand we'll fund and say, we need to draw a line in the sand we'll fund untilj say, we need to draw a line in the sand we'll fund until youy, we need to draw a line in the sand we'll fund until you get look, we'll fund until you get to that point and then you can

rebuild, build back , and then rebuild, build back, and then you consider if you go to you can consider if you go to let's go to miranda richardson, not the miranda richardson, our miranda she's the miranda richardson, she's the gb news richardson, she's news miranda richardson, she's there in northamptonshire. >> miranda, what do you think? should on? nana i do should we carry on? nana i do actually agree with lizzie and matthew on this one. >> i think we should carry on. um, i think there is no price for freedom. they're both quite right. and i think to have just if we have said, you know, to a stopped or not stop putin wouldn't stop, it would be somebody else, it would be another country. he will continue to do this . and i think continue to do this. and i think we just have to be mindful that, you know, we can't allow dictators to behave in that manner. and, you know, one thing we can do is help to afford freedom. and so important freedom. and that's so important . people still . and there are people still losing lives daily over losing their lives daily over there. because we don't there. just because we don't hear about it so much. it's still . is and still happening. it is um, and that's, know, something we that's, you know, something we can't to. can't begin to. >> let's let's go to >> let's go. let's go to jonathan jones. sorry, miranda. ihave jonathan jones. sorry, miranda. i have to interject let's jonathan jones. sorry, miranda. i htoz to interject let's jonathan jones. sorry, miranda. i hto jonathan ect let's jonathan jones. sorry, miranda. i hto jonathan jones let's jonathan jones. sorry, miranda. i hto jonathan jones. let's jonathan jones. sorry, miranda. i hto jonathan jones . who's; go to jonathan jones. who's there jonathan,

there in cornwall? jonathan, where's gone. i had where's my tea? gone. i had a cup tea. cup of tea. >> where's my cup? >> where's my cup? >> but , uh, i >> where's my cup? >> but, uh, i think you're right. >> we should own our own water. right. >> because ld own our own water. right. >> because howyn our own water. right. >> because how are ur own water. right. >> because how are you nn water. right. >> because how are you nn watto >> because how are you going to make the tea without that? >> shouldn't appease him. >> and we shouldn't appease him. >> and we shouldn't appease him. >> need appease >> we don't need to appease the enemy, we should talking >> we don't need to appease the en him. we should talking to him. >> think should m“ >> i think we should watch that interview. with interview. that tucker did with him that's my him the other day. that's my advice. >> he's even he's >> he's even though he's got a gb news mug there. what's he gb news mug out there. what's he on wow. wow. on his water ski. wow. wow. very, very impressive. jonathan. very, very impressive. jonathan. very can't find mine. very good. i can't find mine. right. go to adrian right. let's go to adrian because he's got it. he's in shropshire . adrian gell . shropshire. adrian gell. >> hi, nana. >> hi, nana. >> without question , we should >> without question, we should be supporting the ukrainians and giving them every help that we can in the way of arms. >> uh, humanity. korean help. this is the front line. >> now of potential war in europe. >> that , uh, the europe. >> that, uh, the ukrainians are fighting on our behalf. >> that, uh, the ukrainians are fighting on our behalf . and we fighting on our behalf. and we should be really thankful for that and give them every help that and give them every help that we can.

>> i sort of agree with you, but i think that there should be a limit. i'm more on alan cook's team alan cook london. team there. alan cook in london. thank you. miranda richardson team there. alan cook in london. than northamptonshire. lardson team there. alan cook in london. than northamptonshire. jonathan from northamptonshire. jonathan jones adrian gell jones from cornwall, adrian gell in shropshire. lovely talk to in shropshire. lovely to talk to you. , don't go you. well listen, don't go anywhere after the break anywhere because after the break we'll panel on we'll be testing my panel on some topics that hit some of those topics that hit the, , that caught but the, uh, that caught my eye. but next it's time for clip bait. wait until you hear the clip of the week. stay tuned .

listening to gb news radio. >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua welcome back. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? there's only 11 minutes left. don't worry, because it's time for clickbait . and here's a clip for clickbait. and here's a clip that caught my eye a united states admiral who is assistant secretary health secretary of state for health has that climate change has said that climate change affects americans more affects black americans more than americans. now, than white americans. now, i know typed in know this sounds like i typed in and write the wokeist sentence

ever to chat to you. i don't know what that means, but yeah, i knew that. i knew what it meant. i just did what the script talking but script was talking about. but it's a listen. it's true. have a listen. >> , i'm admiral rachel >> hello, i'm admiral rachel levine, is black history month. >> i'm pleased to partner with omh in advancing better health through better understood funding for black communities. climate change is having a disproportionate effect on the physical and mental health of black communities. black americans are more likely than white americans to live in areas and housing that increase their susceptibility to climate related health issues , and 65% related health issues, and 65% of black americans report feeling anxious about climate changes. impact >> yes. so is climate change racist ? second, no . and do you racist? second, no. and do you matthew laza? >> no. i mean, i think there are things like, you know, new orleans was obviously affected by etc. no, don't by floods, etc. but no, i don't think describe climate think you can describe climate change was trying change as racist. i was trying my defend ipp succeeded. my best to defend ipp succeeded. >> know not well

>> i know it's not woke well gone mad world doesn't know that >> i know it's not woke well gon black world doesn't know that >> i know it's not woke well gon black w> it's really. >> it's really. >> i think it was an ill judged set of comments. >> hilarious, isn't so >> it's hilarious, isn't it? so much on that right now much going on in that right now though, for our though, it's time for our quick fire the part of the show fire quiz. the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the topics hitting the other topics hitting the headunes the other topics hitting the headlines right now. joining me broadcast lizzie broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. your buzzer please, lizzie. adviser lizzie. and also former adviser to party matthew laza to the labour party matthew laza your please play your buzzer. oh please play along at home right. uh question one. uh, now , this is just for one. uh, now, this is just for fun. okay. who has been confirmed as the new regular host of itv's popular daytime show this morning? is it a ant and dec? is it b cat deeley and ben shephard, or c alison hammond and dermot? uh you haven't finished the question i started, so i'll finish . started, so i'll finish. >> lizzie was first. >> lizzie was first. >> dermot o'leary. so matthew laza it is b, it is ben and cat. >> i'm not doing another question because it is. it is cat deeley and ben shephard and may i say ben is one the may i say ben is one of the loveliest. he's absolutely charming. >> ben is lovely. you know >> ben is lovely. but you know what? people have been

what? some people have been dashed like alison dashed to the kerb like alison hammond and that woman who couldn't spell pineapple. >> think we're >> jodie, i think i think we're gonna be seeing a lot of alison. >> josie. that's it. >> josie. that's it. >> lovely. >> josie. that's it. >> well, lovely. >> josie. that's it. >> well, much sly. sir >> well, how much tax did sir keir starmer. question two how much starmer much tax did sir keir starmer pay much tax did sir keir starmer pay according to pay last year? according to a summary by labour, pay last year? according to a summa answer by labour, pay last year? according to a summa answer wins.y labour, closest answer wins. >> uh, it was £190,000. lizzie cundy 200, £200,000. >> nice . 99,430. i panicked , you >> nice. 99,430. i panicked, you panicked. you went too far, lizzie. you just missed out on that. >> so actually, i win by. yeah yeah, because she was actually . yeah, because she was actually. in it. >> i was well that's money do you need to be earning to be paying you need to be earning to be paying like 99,000. >> yeah. so it was a, um, it was to do with a field that he bought for his parents. and he thought it wasn't worth very much. went up in value. much. and it went up in value. it that house. it was the back of that house. >> it's his mum used to. >> it's his mum used to. >> used to keep her >> his mum used to keep her donkeys on it. yeah that's so sweet. >> p wi- >> hoxton. let me tell you. i want money want her. she's got more money than want her. she's got more money tha yeah, he's on. >> yeah, he's on. >>— >> yeah, he's on. >> he doesn't claim to be poor. i in

i mean, he's obviously been in a good a long time. good job for a long time. >> 8 million in the bank, 8 million in the bank. how do you know that? know darling. know that? i know that, darling. >> right. well, it's a question three. suspicious. navalny three. i'm suspicious. navalny was soviet was poisoned with a soviet era nerve false? true nerve agent. true or false? true uh, lizzie cundy. oh i was fair. is he true? >> it was true . yes, true. and >> it was true. yes, true. and it was. it was on a plane. >> it is true. they didn't do the dot so you could see the answer. yes he blamed the kremlin and they accused the accused was declined. denied by russian just russian officials. just like this one. yeah. this this last one. yeah. where this guy sudden, sudden guy? sudden, sudden death syndrome. find syndrome. but they can't find anybody . anybody. >> that we lost their body. >> the most important thing. >> the most important thing. >> the body? >> where is the body? >> where is the body? >> funny, so >> it's funny, but it's so convenient . convenient. >> but let me tell you, the kremlin is elias. they're no liars. and he was. he was actually poisoned on plane. actually poisoned on a plane. >> the two years ago. >> that was. yeah. >> that was. yeah. >> you don't get an extra point for that, lizzie. >> no. do throw away >> um, no. i'll do a throw away part next one, depending part in the next one, depending on whether tied. right. part in the next one, depending on wh

i say it's labour policy to do just here. just that here. >> is it. >> is it. >> oh god what angela rayner oh dean >> oh god what angela rayner oh dear. you about dear. how do you know about that. you that. they actually told you that. they actually told you that not told us. >> us. >> angela rayner gives lots of speeches about it. >> dear. it'd >> does she. oh dear. it'd be nice just tell nice if she could just tell everybody they thought. >> that's why i'm here. they don't australia. >> uh, australia. >> right. uh, final question. question five. what percentage of did uk in of votes did reform uk get in the way ? the way? >> and we did it again. lizzie we both buzzed well in by elections. >> okay. uh, lizzie cundy 13% 13.1 13.1. was it 1713 or 13? >> 13. >> 13. >> the answer is 13. right? so i'm going to have to give a tiebreaker. it was a tie break. >> oh we're tying are we. >> oh we're tying are we. >> yeah it's a tie break. all right well that's it that's it. you there's no extra question. >> nothing extra. nothing else. >> nothing extra. nothing else. >> matthew don't know what you >> matthew i don't know what you waiting >> matthew i don't know what you wai ing like buzzer. it's >> i just like the buzzer. it's my highlight of week. my highlight of my week. >> listen, >> i say right, well, listen, for the great british, i was saying was lizzie. saying it was lizzie. >> lizzie. was it? um. >> it was lizzie. was it? um. well, know. thank well, you know. thank you. whatever i'm whatever yeah. thank you. i'm too whatever. too too scared. whatever. i'm too scared. me, scared. fear me, fear me, fear me . good. me. good. >> send my fear right.

>> send my fear right. >> well, it's an odd toed off show. i've been asking, should nigel return to front nigel farage return to front line politics? according to our twitter 84.6% of you know. twitter poll, 84.6% of you know. yes say yes, whilst 15.4% of you say no . so wow, what do you say no. so wow, what do you think he should return? matthew dawson i think i think he should, um, to give people a choice. do you think 100. >> we need nigel more than ever. >> we need nigel more than ever. >> it's gonna surprise >> look, it's gonna surprise you, i'm actually going you, but i'm actually going to say no because he makes say no because i think he makes a behind pushing. a good person behind pushing. but sure good he'll but i'm not sure how good he'll be the front as an actual lawmaker. i'd obviously him doing >> i'd obviously miss him doing the i >> i'd obviously miss him doing thei was going say what would happen. >> well, it's the selfish reasons as well. to carry on. >> i would love him to be and i would back him all the way. >> he's got to make up. >> he's got to make his mind up. >> he's got to make his mind up. >> interesting. >> well, it'd be interesting. i think i'd probably him think i'd probably back him anyway did. but thank you think i'd probably back him anyway to did. but thank you think i'd probably back him anyway to dpanel, thank you think i'd probably back him anyway to dpanel, broadcaster think i'd probably back him any\columnistdpanel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. lizzie cundy, thank you very much. also you you much. and also thank you to you former labour adviser, matthew laza, for joining former labour adviser, matthew laza, forjoining me. thank you former labour adviser, matthew la;much.joining me. thank you former labour adviser, matthew la1much. and1g me. thank you former labour adviser, matthew la1much. and1g m

make sure you join me tomorrow at kelly and at three with danny kelly and christine loads more christine hamilton. loads more top stories discuss . christine hamilton. loads more top stories discuss. i'll top stories to discuss. i'll leave with the weather, leave you with the weather, enjoy . enjoy. >> it looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . of weather on gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. i'm craig snell looking ahead for the rest of this weekend. we will see a band of heavy rain move across the country. it's all courtesy of these weather fronts. they will just gradually spread their way eastward, but with winds coming in from the southwest, to be a southwest, it is going to be a mild all of us. so mild weekend for all of us. so this evening we can see the rain working its way in from the west . some outbreaks rain . some heavy outbreaks of rain embedded in it. so we do have some warnings in force across parts of england and wales. so there will fairly there will be some fairly difficult driving conditions if you travelling overnight you are travelling overnight tonight , but you are travelling overnight tonight, but it will be a mild one. temperatures for many staying in double figures across the south. these the south. and these temperatures are where we

temperatures really are where we should during course should be during the course of the night time. the day, not the night time. this time of year. so a bit of a slow start across southeastern england. still some heavy rain here, should up here, but it should dry up towards lunchtime and most towards lunchtime and for most of will be a brighter day. of us it will be a brighter day. the day of the two. but the better day of the two. but there will still be a few sherri outbreaks of rain around, especially during the middle part of the day. but for all of us, a mild temperatures in us, a mild one. temperatures in the south potentially reaching 15 or 1618 degrees is having a look at monday. another spell of rain will move its way across the country . either side there the country. either side there will be some drier and brighter moments. again, it will be moments. and again, it will be feeling mild for the time feeling fairly mild for the time of tuesday wednesday again of year. tuesday wednesday again remaining fairly changeable . remaining fairly changeable. further spells of rain, especially during the middle of the week. but temperatures for all in double all of us staying in double figures day . figures by day. >> that warm feeling inside died from boxt boilers . sponsors of from boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on .

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